The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1838-01-05 00:00:00

JANUARY :. 18:58 • •, • • following communication from a . sonrcd'entitled to the utmost confidence : Foca O'CLOCK, P.m.—Sir.—The steamboat Traveller, Capt. Whitney, arrived at Niagara this morning at seven o'clock, from Toronto, which place he left four hours before. The boat, wit ti.a deputation, was despatched by the government for volun teers from this district, to the immediate aid of the gOvernment, and to return forthwith. The reformers of the Home district, it is said, reached Toronto the night before last, in great numbers, (3,000,) when volunteers in behalf of the government were called to oppose their coming into the city, when a running fire took place. Col. Moodie, late of the 104th, was shot dead, and others be sides; a number of prisoners were taken, among whom are Archibald M`Donald (Sheriff Gore district) and Col. Wells. Sheriff Jarvis's house -and others were fired and burnt. 'the governor and his council are in the market square. - James Brown and three hundred volunteers are io the fort. Mr. Speaker M‘Nali, with eighty voluoteeri; - reached the city yesterday. Col. W. Chisholm is expected to-day from Oak"- vine, with the volunteers he can get in aid of the government, and from Whitby a few yeomanry cavalry are looked for. The refOrniers have in their counsel Dr. John ltolph, and and others of high standing. Three flags of truce were sent yesterday to the government with the following terms:- Ist. To dissolve the-present parliament. 2d. Grant an elective legislative council. Bd. That the governor leave the province in two weeks. Queension, U. C., Dec. 6. P.S.—While I write the militia are ordered to meet forth with, at Niagara. It is thougistAhat but few will attend the muster! (sm.!, LsTea.) Stx o'cr.ocK.- . —The Traveller left Niagara this afternoon with one hundred royal volunteers; under the command of Daniel M'Dougall, who was lieutenant _in the militia at the battle of Queenston. The steamer Transit is lying off in the bay of Toronto, with the family of the governor lind the public Munitions. The militia are assembling at Niagara. Apprehensions are felt of an attack upon the town to-night, and preparations are Making for defence. (Front the New York Commercial Advertiser, 13th Dec.) We hasten to communicate the important intelligence from Upper Canada, received by the northern mail of this morning. It will be seen that the insurgents have been defeated, and Sir Francis Head has issued a proclamation offering a reward of FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS for the apprehension of William Lyon M'Kenzie, who, it appears, was at the head of the insurgents. It is reported that the governor hail sent back some of the volunteers who had come in, being persuaded that be had a - sulffetent force to the house district to prevent the in surgents reaching the capital. (From the New York Commercial Advertiser, Dec. 14.) BUFF 41.0, SATUItOaY. Nov. 9.—The following cominuni7 cation was handed in this afternoon. It will be seen to be pretty . highly coloured by the writer's loyal notions, but its statement of facts can probahly be relied upon, and as it gives a more lull- aud.particular account of the recent events at To ronto than has yet appeared, we are induced to make it pubic. 'kirk , A LO i SATUR DAY, .4 P.M.—To the Editors of the Daily Conti:lnertial Advertiser. Gentlemen—Having arrived here -last -evening, gom To ronto, (which place. I left. yesterday morning,) and being sur prised at the statement here, I take the liberty of giving you the facts, as I am acquainted with every thing that bas taken place. there within the last few days. The first symptouri of disturbance at Toronto occurred on Monday evening, when it was discovered by the burning of Dr. 'Thong's house, and by several who had been taken pri soners and escaped, that the rebel. ' to a considerable number, armed with rifles, spears, -Sze., and headed by McKenzie, had adVanced to within trwo miles and a half of the city, proposing, as they have since declared, to take the city, rub the bunks, and , set it on fire. But the citizens, by this time being alarmed, armed them selves as they best could, and alvauced to meet them, upon which the rebels retreated upon Younge street, as far as Mont gomery's, abouts miles nut, and there made their head-quarters. It must be understood that Toronto was at this tone in a de fenceless condition—the. whole of the troops having left some time ago for Lower Canada; but no time was lost, and never was a more animated scene than Toronto presented. From all parts of the city, the loyal (both reformers and tories,) sere collecting together to receive artns and to concert measures for the defence of their wives, their children, and their sacred homes against an infuriated and vicious rabble, led ou by a bad, designing, and disappointed man. Orders were immediately issued by proclamation from the Adjutant General's office for the militia to assemble under their colonels, an d a call made on all the loyal omen to assemble for the defence of their "Queen, ceuntry, •and constitution," and nobly was the call responded to. Oid and young flocked to the standard,of their country, by hundreds.—Steamboats were sent off to Hamilton and. Niagara for militia and volun teers.—the Hon. Speaker, MeNab, afterwards the commander, left H am ilt on at t h e head of about 200 volunteers, on hoard the steamboat Burlington, on Wednesday morning, and Colonel Chisholm, With as. many mititia, a few hours after in a schooner. • MeSsrs..Hairtilton, Clarke, Gilkenson, and Captain Whitney, as a deput a tion from the-governor, arrived at Niagara, at seven o'clock on Wednesday morning and left again at twelve; with 95 volunteeis, under the command of Sheriff Hamilton, arrow- panied by Daniel McDougal, Esq., late of the line. They ar- ' .rived almost at the same time with the men of Gore, amid the cheers of the assembled thousands from the wharves. They marched up in front of the City Hall, were reviewed, and Marched to the Parliament-building,s , where they received their arms and accoutrements, and ten rounds of ammunition each. Companies ormen from Oakville, Whitby, Scarborongh, and other neighbouring towns, were continually arriving, and on Thursday morning. upwards of 4,0(10 stand of arms had been given out. The troops intended to go in search of the rebels, and, consisting of about 2,000 men, having all been marshalled, and reviewed by the governor, were led out, ,about ten o'clock, by him in person, up Yonge-street, where, it was said, the rebels, in force, were waiting for us. and with whom we came up, at about twelve o'clock, at -Montgomery's tavern, their bead quarters. They there appeared to be in considerable numbers, amount ing to between live and seven .hundred.men; 'out from their ill chosen position, it was soon evident they could not make any effectual resistance; aad upon several shots being fired upon Them from two small brass field pieces, they left the house and the road—a part of them takiug up a position in the woods on • uur left, and the others retreating , bad( and to our sight. - Our first companY, consisting of old soldiers, were immedi ately sent to di s l o d ge t h e enemy f rom t h e woo d, whi c h th e y d'd in gallant Style in about fifteen minutes, killitT about. thirty, and wounding - and taking prisoners a proportionate number. gWreeeVowed them about two miles—but Mackenzie and a at number of his party.got off by scattering and taking to the Woods; and from our want of a sufficient number of cavalry, i t was thought useleseio follow them, they being completely, and, for the sake of society, it is, to he hoped, effectually routed. We were ordered back to the city, where we arrived about five o'clock, amid the warm congratulations and joyful acclamation of the population, who consider ,themselves now free from any `farther. - molastatiou from Mr. Mackenzie, and his murderous and lawless gang. The Niagara volunteers, (of which I was one,) having left home, many of them without an hour's warning, and quite unprovided in purse or otherwise, and alarmed for the safety of their own homes, (for among other reports, it was said two hundered men were corning from Buffalo to take the ,place, desired and obtained leave from his 'Excellency to re. turn which they did, per Transit, of yesterday morning, greeted by their friends and several hundred of the militia, who were preparing to leave with the S. B. Britannia to join them I .need not farther add, that this movement made by McKenzie, in the present situation of the province, is con sidered by all parties as a. mad attempt, and that McKenzie must have been, to a certain extent, deranged, or with his ac 'knowledge(' shrewdness he could not but have foreseec the fatal termination of his foolish attempt to overturn the government, as it is supported by the greater number, and possessed of most effectual means to put down sedition in any part of the province. Long have M'Kenzie and a few such men as are to be found in any community, agitated and disturbed the country, and comilairied of grievances which nobody saw or felt, and even enlisted the general sympathy of tha people of the United States, by praising their government, and the excellency of 'their government, and the excellency of their institutions, (which nobody will deny.) holding our government up to scorn as oppressive, and raising the cry of Liberty ! -Liberty ! But I trust his deeds for the last few days will withdraw the veil that has blinded people's eyes, and discover him in his proper colours. What more liberty do we want in Canada as a British pro vince ? But if we want more, heaven preserve us from such liberty as we should gain by cold blooded murder—(Colonel Moodie was murdered last Monday, in cold blood, because he refused, it is said, to lead on the insurgents) or by burning ahr .houses, robbing the mail and individuals, and such other like actions as M'Kenzie and hiS party have been guilty of. P. S. E ve ry thing was quiet when I left 'Toronto, except the bustle caused by the continued arrival of militia and volun teers, who were hailed with pleasure , not that they w ere ex pecte?d to be needed, hut because of the loyalty and attaelonent to the government, their ready offer of assistance evinced. I remain, gentlemen, your obedient servant, A NUUS NI'LEOD. Respecting the affairs of Lower Canada, we have the following intelligence from the New York Commercial • Advertiser, of December 1.6 : LA'TER Fiio.ll THE CANADA.% (From: the Montreal Transcript of Dec ; 9.) Oa Thursday morning a party of the St. John's volunteers, under the orders of Lieut. Macdonald, brought into town three Of the wretches who so wantonly and barbarously murdered Chartrand. They had also six other prisoners. charged with political offences, who were all safely lodged for military custody, in the House of Industry. Later in the day the John Bull steamer arrived from Sorel ; having on board a part of the troops Which left Montreal under the command of the Eton. Colonel Gore. They brought up one prisoner, an old man of Bourgos. who if not assisting, was at all events present at the murder of Lieut. Weir. About half-past four o'clock in the afternoon of the same day' all the state prisoners were delivered from the gaol into the custody of a military guard, and marched into the city. They Were lodged- in the fate I - louse of Industry, (old ga o l.) The rebels front St. Eust ace ar e s t a t e d to have sawed through - the timbers of one arch of the bridge built by 'dr. Porteous, and counnunicating from that disturbed district with the Island Of Montreal. No part of the bridge has been . removed ; but it is in that state,•thatshould artillery, or ammunition, oran y heavy load attempt to pass, it would pro - qrly be. precipitated into the rapids. Such was at all events the tntention of the operators. • • (From time Montreal Herald of Dec. 9.) The remains of the late Lieut. Weir, of her Majesty's 32d i*egimetit„ were yesterday interred with the usual ntilitary honours. All the ward and volunteer associations joined in the procession, four deep, which was certainly the most numerous we ever saw in this country. The shops and counting-houses in the city were closed from one to three o'clock. The wicdnws of the houses in the sheets .through which the procession passed, down to Queeri-Square,• were crowded with females. The Rev. Mr. Esson of f iciated at' the burying ground, and in beautiful langutige which found a , response in every breast, alluded to the Untimely fate of this gallant young officer. The interment took place in the military portion of the Scotch burying groundln Queen-square. . We are indebted to 111 r. Wilson, of the news-room, for - the following copy. of an express received from Mi. Pierce, of St.. Johns. Gagnon, who is reported as killed, was one of those for whose apprehension a reward of £lOO pounds was recently offered. "On Wednesday evening, the rebels under the command of the famous Gagnon were returning, from Swanton, whither they, had been fir the purpose of procuring arms, they were attacked by a party of the Mississquoi volunteers, at Sleore's Goruer, about two miles from Mississquoi Bay. The result of the attack was the complete defeat of the rebels, Gagnon and foisr or five others were kiiled, seven or eight were taken prisoners, together with two pieces of brass Cannon, forty stand of ants, two waggons with baggage, ste., and four casks of powder. The- volunteers (had but one hour previous to the attack received their arms. They did not wait for the proper diStribution of the-m - . but broke open the cases and immediately out to meet the. rebels, An express reached St. John's, with letters to the 'Hon. Ito ber Jones,Atating the above facts, at 6 p.m. last evening. 'Phis tnessenger saYs - the:oploion was ,current that. Dr. Cot 6 was with the party, but had the good luck to - escape:" •' • • Felix VHirssier, son of the seigneur of Varennes, was yes terday committed to prison on the charges of high treason and threatening to murder Mr. Pinette. Lord Gosford has issued a proclamation. offering 2000 dollars for the discovery and apprehension of the murderers of Lieut. Weir. It was reported at Lewiston that a large body of insurgents was marching from the Western districts to Hamilton. Very doubtful. Mackenzie's delay in attacking Toronto was occasioned by the hope of reinforcements, his original intention of surprising the town being frustrated A lettov from Rochester says that Messrs. Mackenzie, Rolph, and Bidwell had arrived at Lewiston. Not mentioned in the letter from that place. The same letter says that 2000 dollars reward has been offered for the arrest of Mr. Bidwell. We give no credit to this report. PROCEEDINGS Off' THE TOWN Cot:rim - L.—There are several matters in the report of the Town Council pro• ceedingi of Wednesday last which call for some re. marks, Among the most conspicuous of these we must cer tainly consider the extraordinary application, made by the notorious Samuel Knipe, for compensation for his . _ services as objector-in-geneval to the burgesses of Liver pool. •We never recollect to have met with•such an•un paralleled piece of impudence as this. After putting hundreds of the most respectable men in town to the trouble and annoyance of dancing attendance at the re gistration court, to 'meet the frivolous and groundless objections of this meddling upstart, he has the audacity to prefer a petition claiming payment out of the borough funds fur his zeal and activity in his endeavours to rob the freemen of their rights ! We wonder that the man had the temerity to venture upon the task of making his preposterous objections originally ; but we wonder still . . more at the brazen shamelessness he has displayed in claiming compensation out of the public funds for his base trickery. We may, indeed, well exclaim, as we have Mort done in referenbe to the proceedings of our virtuous liberals, " What next?" We suppoe the next step will be that the underlings of the Reform Associa tion will, one and all, put in similar claims for pecuniary remuneration out: of 'the municipal treasury. .In the nextplace,.-and with just as much reason, we may anti cipate that the scribes of the radical papers of the town Will demand compensation for their abuSe of the WI ies, and their servile apologies for the liberal acts of the "tyrant mhjority" in the Town Council. We should very much like to know whether Samuel Knipe received any encouragement t 6 present his extra ordinary petition from any member of the corporation Was there any promise held out to him that his unrea- sonable demand should meet with a favourable conside ration ? It is really difficult to imagine that be could have ventured upon so bold a step without some hint at the probable success of his application. Perhaps Mr. Walmsley can afford some explanation on this subject ; that distinguished orator of the Town Council having prompted Knipe to make the objections. We should not at all be surprised if Knipe himself should feel tempted to make some disclosures 'respecting this affair, seeing that his expectations of receiving compensation have been so grieviiiisly disappointed. - The next topic to which we would direct the notice of our readers is, the report of the Dock Committee, as far as it relates to the resignation of Mr. Harvey, and the election of Mr. Vandenhoff as his successor. The letter of Mr. Harvey, containing his reasons for tendering his resignation, while it reflects the highest honour upon himself for his spirit and independence, affords another striking illustration of the grasping and monopolising policy of our radical town councillors. It is evident, from this document, that the 'hypocritical faction at the Town-hall wish to exercise a complete and undivided control over the affairs of the Dock Committee. The representative members of that body have, in truth,'no practical influence over the management of the impor tant trust confided to their care. The rate payers, who are of all others the most deeply interested, are equally destitute of any power over the proceedings of the com mittee. . Mr.- Harvey did not conceive it to he consistent with the due exercise of his functions, as the solicitor to the Do s ck Committee, that all his documents or proceed ings should be subject to the revision of the Town-clerk. • His resignation, therefore, reflected honour upon himself as an independent man of business, and, at the same ime,.eyjneed a proper regard for the interests of the We can appreciate such straightforward rate-payers. conduCt as much; in the case of a political adversary, as if it had happened to be exhibited by the staunchest con. servative. - But what shall we think of Mr..Vandenhoff ? He must have been cognisant of the motives which led Mr: Harvey to resign. He has, therefore, voluntarily consented:to render. himself the mere subservient. agent of the Town-clerk and the radical majority in the corpo ration. .Whatever may be his personal qualifications for the office to which he has been preferred, we are sure that the surrender which lie has made of his independ ence will not tend to exalt his professional character. The di'scussion which ensued upon' the production of Mr. Harvey's letter is extremely curious and in structive. Mr. Birch manfully impugned die'conduct pursued by the factions majority in the Dock Committee, as calculated to bring the Council itself into contempt. 'He distinctly charged these individuals with a want of decency, andvery justly remarked that such proceedings. would have a tendency to prevent men of character and independenCe . from offering themselves as c andidates for seats in the Council. Mr. Hornhy and Mr. Leathom very properly justified the votes which they had given for Mr. North, on the ground that he was a more experienced lawyer, and, therefore, better qualified for the office, than Mr. Van dephoff. Mr. Wahnsley's speech on this occasion' is eminently jesuitical. He does not attempt to meet the charge made by Mr. Birch. He does not deny that political prefer- ence dictated the selection of Mr. Vandenhoff. All he says is, that Mr. Birch had not proved that this protege of Mr. Walmsley and Alderman Evans " was incapable of performing the duties of the office!" That was not the question at issue. The point for consideration was, the comparative claims of Mr. North and Mr. Vanden hoff. Was not the former a more eligible person to fill the situation ? Can Mr. Walmsley " deny" this ? Can he deny that Mr. Vandenhoff was elected on the ground of his having been the secretary of the Reform Associa tion, and that Mr. North, with his superior qualifications, was rejected simply because he was a conservative It is perfectly useless for our radical contemporaries to att;enipt,ty . myslify die public on the subject of the ap pointment of Mr. Vandenhoff. • This party proceeding is . quite in character with the usual policy of the radical faction. On all occasions, both in the exercise of local patronage and in appointments to situations under go vernment, it has been the constant maxim of this party to overlook personal qualifications, for the sake of favour. ing political partisans. . During the sway of the tory party the liberals were loud and incessant in their denunciations of the alleged exclusiveness af their opponents. They contended with much apparent zeal and earnestness for an impartial ex ercise of public patronage, and insisted that merit in the individual should alone form the passport to office. Such was the language of these patriotic liberals. What has been their conduct ? Look at England, where they have crammed every public office with their political adherents—where they have:swamped the magistracy, as far as lay in their power, with the most zealous of their supporters—where they have, at an enormous sacrifice of the public funds, superseded so many old and tried public servants, for the sole purpose, not of securing the more efficient discharge of the duties attached to such appointments, but, as in the cases of Messrs. Crooke, Curry, and Vandenhoff, of rewarding those persons who have been the most active• political agents of the liberal • • • party, Again, look at Ireland.. Have the liberals not done every thing in their power to purge the public offices — the magistracy—and the constabulary force of every sin cere Protestant and loyalist, for the purpose of promot ing the seditious minions of O'Connell and the Popish priests.? Haslit not, therefore, become evident that the gram object of the radicals has been to obtain a monopoly pi power and patronage ? Their hypocritical cry was for reform-their real end was self aggranai3Omeitt. The public are ; hoWever, beginning to open their eyes to the Immbug of these self-styled reformers; They cannot much 'ringer practice their deCeptions: The in. . telligeot people of England have diseoveted thatiin obx taining the reforms, which they were instigated by radi. ,cal demagogues to demand, they have paid clearly for their whistle. Already has the reaction in favour of - conservative principles in England all but neutralised the Popish and radical majorities in , 'lreland and Scotland. .It will soon overwhelm the combined forces of the libe rals thrOughout The empire, and crush the imbecile mi nistry that. has so long unfortunately • swayedonr, desti -nies. User their.fall, and the humiliation of the despe rate faction by which they are supported, every true pa. triot, every loyal subject, and every honest politician will unfeignedly rejoice. LI\TERP()(.)L STANDAkb TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS. On Wednesday the usual monthly meeting of the council was held. The Deputy TOWN CLERK opened the proceedings by read ing the minutes of the last meeting. THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. It was ordered that a fixed salary lie given to the inspectors of weights and measures. Th, MA YOR, in reference to this subject. said he,had felt it his duty to tell the inspectors of weights and measures to give a week's notice to the merchants, that they should examine their weights. Mr. Councillor WALMSLEY wished to know whether that notice was given to all or confined to the merchants? • The MAYOR said it had been given to the tradesmen some time ago, .mod he thought it but fair that they should now begin to correct their own house. The report further set forth, that a memorial had been re ceived from Mr. Samuel Knipe, praying for compensation for h wine objected to a number of freemen who were improperly Placed on the Borough roll. The committee had resolved that this application could not be complied with. At the conclOsion of the reading of the proceedings of the. committee, which did not :elate to anything of public interest, Mr. Councillor Exit LE begged to make some remarks on one part of the proceedings, and in doing so he must say that he had had no conversation with the parties interested. Mr. Radlev, of the Adelphi, was desirous of purchasing a piece of land behind his hotel, and the finance committee intended putting it up for sale by auction; applications had been made for the same piece of land for a chapel and also for a school, and supposing the. school to get it, he did think that a school in the immediate neighbourhood of the hotel, would be an intolerable nuisance; and he did think that the council ought to protect that hotel, Mr. Rainey having expended so much.moncy on it. audit being so great an ornament to the town, and so many strangers going there. They had removed the cattle market, in order not to be a nuisance, but this would be a greater one. lie therefore begged that this part 'of the report be referred back to the finance committee. The .M A Y OR inquired on what grounds? They had themselves made a standing order that all land should be offered up by auction. Mr. Councillor EARLE.—Then, in what place .is Mr. Radtpy it persons buy that land for a school • The MA YOR.-1 ouly thought it my duty to state that resolu lion ofthe council. • Mr. Councillor WALLACE CURRIE did not agree in the ob servations of Mr. Earle,- that a school would be a greater nui sance than the cattle mat ket. Mr. Councillor EattLE. , -1 meant on account of the children there. (A laugh.) Mr. Councillor W. CURRlE.—Children are not a species of cattle that are such a nuisance. ( Hear and a laugh.) Mr. Councillor EARLE.-1 wish you had a school opposite Your own house. Mr. Councillor W. CURRIE apprehended that Mr. Earle's fears were chimerical. He did not hesitate to say that the l a nd was mo r e d e sirable to Mr. Hadley than to any other per son; at the saute time he did not think that on that accooot they ought to depart front their usual course. lie dill not think that any person would be so ungenerous as to string, up Dlr. Hadley to buy the land at an exorbitant price, ►est they should themselves be caug,ht. He could not help thinking that Mr. Rainey must take his chance with other parties. They could not possibly obtain the real value of the land without putting it up to auction. • Mr. Councillor COOPER did not see why the resolution that all land should he put up to public auction should be departed from to suit Mr. Hadley - or any other person. He most de cidedly opposed it. Mr. Councillor EARLE rose, as he said, "to reply only." The Ma YOli said, the only course he could take consistently, with the staoding order, nould be to move that the standing or der, with respect to that particular spot of laud should be suspended. Mr. Councillor EARLE wished it to be understood that he did not make these observations from any motives of favouritism to Mr. Hadley, but wished to guard the public who visited Liver pool and went to that hotel, from having any nuisance near the house.' And, whatever his friend Mr. Currie might say to the contrary, 200 or 300 boys turned out of a school two or three times a day, was a very serious nuisance ; and he was only sorry if he (Mr. Currie) found it su very agreeable, that he had not a school near his own house. Mr. Councillor JORDAN thought , Mr. Radley was entitled to a Keret ence for the purchase of any ground, as the town was indebted to him for the handsome architectural ornament which he had made his hotel. And as to a school, he would rather have 200 or. 300 cows or bullocks near, than lads, who did nothing but scream. 'Mr. Councillor Cuattra stated, that he had received intima tion that applications for the land for a school or chapel had been withdrawn. The proceedings of the committee were then confirmed. LEASES AND IhIPROVENIENT COMMITTIIES• •.. The proceedings of the leases and improvement committees were read and confirmed. WATCH COMMITTEE. must know that two lanips would not cost £25, or halfthat stun; and he would also state that two streets which were lighted by these two lamps paid more rate than would cover the cost of them to the community. (Hear.) Mr. Councillor ConeEtt, in explanation, begged to state that he had not 'been in Dingle-lane, but ,made his statement from report.. 'I-Laughter:4 . Mr. Alderman SHIEL. said it would be' perhaps' necessary for. the public not to he led away, always to consider that lighting was a police arrangement entirely, and that lights were not put up for the accommodation of the parties who resided in the out townships, but to be a protection to the police, and to prevent persons making their escape fi om the police under the cover of darkness. That appeared to be the view which was taken by the legislature when in the municipal act they had empowered the lighting only of the - out-townships. As to Mr. Caoper say ing that the people in the town were taxed for those out of the town, that was not the case ; the people in the town were taxed fur the protection of their own persons and property. The M Avon wished to make one remark. He did not wish to stop the o bservations of any gentleman, but be thought Mr. Cooper should have made inquiries of the watch committee be fore he had taken the course he had. The proceedings were then confirmed. MARKET COMMITTEE. The proceedings of this committee were confirmed. TOWN-HALL ESTABLISHMENT COMMITTEE. Resolved, that Mr. Case's picture be allowed to he removed from the council-room up stairs, in,the Town-hall, at the request of his relatives, to be copied. M r. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE wished to know if a similar application hail been male by Sir Thomas Brancker's relatives, as he did not see his picture in the room. (A lauiih.) The NIkYOR said his picture was to be put up that day, and it would be in the pttoisure of the council at which end of the room it was to he put, for the best light. Proceedings confirmed. EDUCATION COMMITTEE. The proceedings of this committee, together with that of the Custom-house committee, and the committee for superintending the pecuiary affairs of the corporation churches, were confirmed. "lOWN'S DUES uoMMITTEE. The TOWN-CLERK read the following report:— That it be recommended to the council to authorise this com mittee to allow to steam•packet companies, and agents for, and masters of coasting vessels, being regular traders, from and after the sth instant, a commission, not exceeding . five pounds Per centum, on the amount of town dues duly declared accounted fur, and paid over to the receiver, under regulations to be pre scribed by the committee. And the receiver having drawn the attention of the committee to the orders of the late council of the sth January, 1825, 2d December, 1829, and 3d December, 1831, relating to town dnes on various articles of merchandize, and the power of re sumption of the former amount of dues, reserved to the council by the said orders, the committee, with the advice of the Town clerk, recommend, that it is expedient for the council to make any order, and report that no order having been made, thedues upon the said articles will continue collectable, under the said bt ders of the late council, according to the rates thereby allowed, the power of the council still continuing reserved as therein ex pt•essed, The ieport . was confirmed. COURT oF REQUESTS COMMITTEE. The TOWN-CLERK read the following report, which was con , firmed-- _ _ It w-is to the effect, that on Thursday, the 19th December last, William Lowndes, Esq., the stipendiary commissioner of the Court of Requests, while acting in the correct discharge of his duty, upon the occasion of giving judgment in the open court between two parties who were before him, received flew' the chief clerk of the court, Mr. William - Statham, an unpro voked insult, in language reflecting on the justice of the deci sion g i ven by the commissioner: that tyn the next day hut one, Mr. St a tham made an apology in open court. which satisfied the commissioner so far that he was content to leave the subject without any personal feeling to the consideration of the coin matee. The latter recommended to the council the lenient course-of passing the offence, only so far as to make . Mr. Sta tham's continuation in his office dependent on his future con duct and demeanour being such as the commissioner, the coun cil, and the public have a right to expect from him in his im portant office of chief clerk of the Court of Requests. In•case of any further misbehaviour, then tha:offence and the present one to be taken into consideration by . the committee as to the proper punishment deserved. Among the. proceedings and resolutions of this committee there was an order, that the 'officers of police were to do their utmost to enforce the provision of the by-laws relative to stunk-' ing on the dock quay's, and going into warehouses with mien closed lamps. There was a further resolution on the dirty state of the footwalks in the town. [The Mayor said, an order_ had been issued, that the inhabitanis should sweep before their doori in compliance with the by-law.] It was further ordered, that the names of the several streets in the town should be placed upon the gas lamps in such streets, in the same manner as in Lord-street. _ It was,resolved, that any policeman or member of the,consta, bulary force. asking or receiving any gratuity or christiui.is-box: horn any person should be dismissed the service. The lighting of a part of the um-townships was deferred till next September. Mr. Councillor Swart wished to know why the lighting of Edge -lane had been deferred? The inhabitants had a right to complain that they were rated for ligh#ing, and had no light within a quarter of a mile Irma their residences. He thought \Valu►sley would recollect, that this was contrary to au agreement entered into in 1836. Mr. Councillor - WminsLEY said, it had been arranged, and the arrangement had been made known, that there would be an inspector to each ward in the town, and that if any of the inha bitants complained of want of light, when they applied to the watch committee, their complaint was referred to two inspectors of the district to report on ; if they reported favoui ably, a light was placed ; and if nut, the parties were informed, that their re quest could nut be complied with. The watch committee, after the suburbs were supplied with light, thought it was :meets iry to appoint a special committee for the purpose of seeing whe ther the lighting.could.not be carried to the extent of the boii dories. That committee had taken considerable pains, and had reported to the committee , that he w hole of the boundaries should be lighted, specifying the streets, and in mo s t pl aces. where the lights should be placed. The report had again been referred to them to state those parts which should be first light ed, which would be most useful for the inhabitants of the bo rough; and that report had been read to tnem. fie could .not immediately refer to the part of which Mr. Smith spoke, as. it could not be supposed that the chairman of the committee could have a knowledwe of every lamp; but had Mr. Smith informed him of this before, he should have been ver y ha ppy to have given him every information The lighting of Vauxhall-road,. Smitbdown-lane, &c., was first ordered, and the remainder of the boundaries to be finished by next Se p tember. if th e y at tempted to light the whole now it would be impossible to do so before the lights would be unnecessary. They had, therefore, thought it best to get on with those lights which were Most needed. In the meantime all the pipes would be laid down, Mr. Councillor Satmi said, he was not asking any particular favour for _his constituents; all they required was to be placed on the same footing as their neighbours. They rated them but they would not light them. Mr. Councillor G. H. LAWRENCE would ask if inhabitants residing a quarter of a utile from any light were obliged to pay a rale ? Mr. Councillor WacsisLEY said, it was for the watch com mittee to say whether certain places should be absolved from pas ing rates. Formerly parties had been ai•solved 00 being at some particular distance (twit any light, as fifty yards for in stance. But that would be alone in the sub-committee of the watch committee whether certain places should n O ot pay those rates. They were compelled to. lay' the rate in the first instance; still it would be in the diseretion of the committee to say, whe ther it would be right for certain parties to pay that rate. Mr. Councillor JoEIN Ssitrir read part of a resolution on the subject—" Resolved, that the tales shall only extend to those parts actually lighted." Ells constituents co mplained, that they were not lighted, and yet they paid the rates. Mr. Councillor JontraN said, if the parties had applied to the watch committee, they would have immediately inspected the complaint.; -• • Mr. Councillor Watmst.KY said, this was an arrangement which had been made the previous year, and the arrangement applied to the whole borough. A sub-committee would be ap pointed for the purpose of inquiring whether any persons cOuld. be absolved from the rate. , , • . Mr. Councillor JOHN Slkwas perfectly satisfied. n, Mr. Councillor GoGLAN I ought it important al future, that when any gentlemen felt agrieved, and felt it necessary to make statements, that he would previously inquire of the watch com mittee, and receive from them the reasons which appeared to them sufficient to justify their refusal for not carrying into effect. that which was complained of. If the answer appeared not satisfactory, it was then quite competent and the duty of any member to bring it before the council. Such a line of conduct would save time and prevent improper feeling from getting abroad. He would-suggest' that that was the proper course. Mr. Councillor HENRY LAwesNCC did not think any gen tleman should be debarred from makino any observations. Mr. Councillor CoonEn said, it was rather strange to c.tll on the poor inhabitants of some of the streets which were nut light ed to contribute to light the outer townships, which paid no portion of the rate. Dingle-lane was ordered to be lighted, and only one or two houses were there, and that lane would cost at least £25. It was, therefore, very hard on those parties who, in• the town, had whole streets unlighted, to be called on to contri bute to the rate for the benefit of the out-townships. Mr. Cooper was proceeding to enumerate various places in the town which were not lighted, when . The M A volt said it would take up much time to go round the the town; he had better make those statements to the watch committee. Mr. Councillor CoorEe thought he was quite in order. Mr. Councillor BRIGHT wished to ask the Town-clerk whether the watch committee hail not a sovereign poster on these ques tions, and whether they ought to come before the council at all ? The TowN•CLERK said this qUestion came before the watch committee not in their capacity of watch committee but as a lighting committee. Mr. Councillor CooeErt thought he was-quite in order, inas much as he had not a seat in any of those committees. He thought he hail a right, for the benefit of the public, to object to this mode of lighting. The fact had been stated. that Liverpool was one of the worst lighted towns in all England. (Cries of " No," " No." " No.") The lamps were also placed at much too great a distance - in the town. (A cry of •` Name.") He would name Gower-street, which was•whollv built up, and there was not a lamp in it. He merely named these things to draw the attention of the lighting committee to them. Mt, Councillor Wstmst.Ev said Mr. Cooper hod made one complaint to which he should allude. • So far as the charges against the watch committee Went, , he hopedthe paving beard was equally well attended to. Mr. Cooper had referred to Din gle-lane, raid had stated that it would cost £25, and that there weie (HAY One or two houses in There were Duly two lamps, tit eat the utmdst three therei.and . Mio Cooper from big experience Mr. Councillor EARLE only wished to correct a statement of Mr. Birch ; he was not going to justify the appointment, but there was a material difference between this appointment and the one to which Mr. Birch had alluded, made by the old cor poration. .. The MAYOR wished to be in order. Would Mr. Earle move that the resolutions be confirmed ? Mr. Councillor Blecti understood that there was a motion to that.effect, - or he would not have spoken. l'he MAYOR begged pardon. . . Mr. Cotunrillor EARLE merely wished to correct Mr. Birch in one par neuter, as to what had been done on the last apeointtnent of the old corporation. In that appointment; the choice was made from two gentlemen of the same political principles, one a very old and skilful man, and the other a very young one, who had been his apprentice; but, notwatistanding, they chose. the young man, though of the same political opinions. Mr. Cotinciilor BIRCI-I.—l believe there were two or three candidates of the same politics on this occasion, and I believe nt being paying the committee chose the youngest. (A laug h . ) Mr. Councillor EARI.E.—I was only .going to put the council in possession of the difference. (Contin ued lau g hter.) Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE said , i f he understood right, n t tnt aftrtoemAlt a t, r .the time it Harvey's l iit ter, was fur he reading, was un e the importance of it, the ground of his resig nation was, that he i e a g W ea r parti cularof did not choose to submit his opinion to that of any other person, or consent to act under any other solicitor? Mr. Alderman Le sTtiosi.—That is the substance. Mr. Councillor H. LAWRENCE continued.—Because, so far as his knowledge went, he could not conceive that any respect able solicitor could so place himself. If he were not fit to act on hie own opinion he ought not to have been appointed. He had always considered Mr. Harvey as a. must respectable gentleman in the profession, and whose talents did him very great credit; and he therefore could not see how he could place himself in the situation which th; Dock Committee would place him in, more especially as the veto was in the council. If he was to consult the Town-clerk, for whom he (Mr. Lawrence) hail the highest respect, he was still placing himself more under the council ; and he did not think that any independent person owlet have acted otherwise than he had done; and he there fore regretted that the resienation had taken place. Concurring in the sentiments of Mr. Birch—sentiments which did trim the highest credit, he 'felt called upon to speak his concurrence in them, and to express hie high opinion of the justice which Mr. Harvey had done to his own character. The MAYOR said the only mistake was, that the solicitor of the dock estate was never asked to submit his opinion. Re was simply asked to confer with the Town-clerk, tube put in possession of opinians upon which he was to act. It was a course uniformly adopted in the • House of Lords and in the House of Commons, to the great convenience of the public; but no man was made superior to anether by that proceeding. Therefore the whole argument of Mr. Hariey * fell to the ground. Mr. Councillor JOSEPH HORNEY said, in the committee, on former occasions, he had certainly voted for Mr. North, when a candidate, as he considered him a far more eligible man ; but he had not considered that on that account he should in future vote for Mr. North it' he found an equally eligible men brought forward at the same time. At the time when Mr. Harvey was elected, he had voted for him as an equally eligible man with Mr. North. He was sorry that Mr. Birch should have made the remamks that he had done, and thrown out that they had voted on other censiderations,, on aeisount of his poitta'calprins' ciples, for Mr. Vandenhoff. (Hear.) He disavoweot that en tirely; he believed the gentlemen themselves took all the measures they possibly could to satisfy themselves that he was perfectly fitted for the situation. The result of their inquiries was, that he had gone through a regular education, that he was proper rrto h p t e s r in to eligible itn stat e ni i order man of very rising talents, and they were all convinced, from their personal intercourse with him, that he was in every respect rte r t i la fill s 'e r s t i i tin o ds i s t s it t b f : s of i dockr conside r ed slieit'srlie wished a that they rested with the imputation of merely appointing a man for his political principles. (•' Hear" from) the Whigs, answered ironically by the tories.) If he had not thought him as fit as any other candidate he would not have voted for him. . Mr. Councillor WALMSLEY was merely going to observe that he thought before Mr. Birch had brought such imputations against the Dock committee, he should have given them some grounds—he should at least have shown to the council that Mr. Vandenhoff was not capable of filline, the office, or he should -have shown that any one of the candidates was better qualified than Mr. Vandentua for the office He (Mr. Birch), he thought had failed, or not attempted to prove any of these things; and, perhaps, before bringing this imputation against the cduncil, it would have been his duty outof doors to have ascertained this. In reference to what had fallen from the member for Rodney street ward, 'Mr. Harvey was not requested. as had very pro perly been said, to see the Town-clerk at all; but the Dock so licitor found from the act of parliament relative to the docks, that he hail not the power of making, bye-laW•e relative to fires close to the Dock quays, the council only having the power of making those laws. He 'believed that a sub-committee of the council, on the bye-laws, did propose certain bye-taws for the better government of the Dock quays to prevent fires ,thereon; But though these laws were desirable to be held in abeyance for a certain time, until arrangements could be made with the Dock committee for jointly carrying them into effect, it was with the view that the Towit-clerk and- Dock solicitorshould consult; or. if beneath the dignity and professional character of Mr. Harvey. toconsult with the Town-clerk on such an important consideration. to consult smile of the conned. The result had been that the bye-laws which had at first been proposed, hail been 'totally altered; and, though the bye-laws brought before the Dock committee had been so altered, he was prepared to say, that even as they now stood, if brought before the council, the council would pause on them; and he did not know whether they would not go further and put a veto on them. Counsel's opinion had been orderel to be taken, whether these bye-laws could be passed erne!, and the result of that would show whe thernot, as respected the professional capa bilit y of Mr. Vandenhoff the members of that committee had acted a p ro p er part or for the office of Dock solicitor; he, fur one, believed that he was fully capable—that he was a young mall Of great talents, and rising rapidly in his profeesisti ; that he had served a re gular apprenticeship to his profession, with credit to himself, and he believed he held the good opinion of a great portion of that council, not only as a professional Man, but as a private cha racter; and his appointment was worthy of the Duck-trust, and he firmly believed lie would be an honour and a credit to it. Mr. Alderman LEATki A m said, he regretted extremely on his return from London, to find that Mr. Harvey had determined to give in his resignation. He was not aware that he was la bouring under such gm eat dissatisfaction; but it appeared that his mind was made up unalterably. He ( Mr. Harvey ) had called on him, and told hint that the committee were to tneet, and that no consideration whatever should induce him to with draw his letter. It was what he regretted exceedingly, because, after an experience of P 2 months, Mr. Harvey hail shown the greatest talents, and that he possessed great diligence and assiduity; and he believed that he had shown the result of con siderable experience in his profession. They were consequently brought to the election of another solicitor, and five presented themselves. Two of these withdrew their pretensions on the morning of the election. and three consequently remained, Mr. North, Mr. Vandenhoff, and Mr. Robinson. No person pro posed Mr. Robinson, and consequently they went to the vote t eh h el a sra t tdhweroe.wf re f rained He wished reflected e f c r i l ed i ' h , ": n o . k f :i , p n r e gv a o a k t i i a t n s h g e " ; o newspap e r s , Ai s o l. own ' N i v,,0r1 North. It foru i I t - t. had been. stated that no person was so well qualified as Mr. Vandenhoff. Mr. North having had considerable experience —an experience of twenty years, and having acted for a large r ri l .'is e ) ro r s tssh t g i e r i t s e o l hi body of merchants in protecting their powers, he had made him self very fully arepus'rted with the bearings of the Dock Acts ; and from Mr. North also being the solicitor to the Harrington Doork Company, which h a d given him a further insight into the dock question's he therefore did think, independently of a pri vate friendship for Mr. North, that he was the fittest man for the purpose. tie looked to no distant period to their being com pelled to go into parliament; and he thereto •e reflected in him " THOMAS HARVEY." self in the choice of a solicitor, who would be the most fit and j i iroper person to accompany a deput a tion to London for their t Note.—Alderman Leathom, the chairman, was at 'this time e f enee and a dvic e there. From what he, had learnt of Mr absent from) Liverpool. Vandenhoff, he was a very young man • d one who had little It was resolved that Mr. Hai vey's resignation he accepted. "or no expereince in ptrlitt . inent *an dry pract ise ; . and any person liesolved,,that Air. G. Vandeehoff be appointed in the room must know that ' - much experience was required in traesacting of Mr. Harvey. Proceedings confirmed. . that description of businees • he therefore gave his conscientiou s Mr. Councillor Blecir (who spoke so very low that at first vote for Mr. North, and if ' required would '. on the we heard hint ve ry imperfectly,) said it was not then his Mien- of vote psonactaLinlwa and ground that he had a g reater know! lion to oppose the confirmation of that report, because he con- of parliamentary business. B this ei rte • 1 ' Bur stria ect of bye- laws was sidered that the veto) possessed by the council ought never to ' ' not the whole ground of A . r. Marvel's discontent • he had had he exercised except very strongly culled for; but he eould not long conversations with the Town-Clerk and had ' beet led ohs help expressing his regret at that part of the proceedings tinctly to understand that he was tsu bmit himself . I s Town which referred to the recent appointment of a solicitor to the nu.") Eie ° Ai to re Clerk . (cries of ." no," ‘• Dock estate. It was quite natural for Mr. Vandenhoff to wish He( Mr. n r d . I h s e eilt hotn J believ ed t i, that t that was his perfect understanding; to promote his own interests in the world in every honourable belief by the Toe n Clerk baying ' was bo r ne _ out . h its said to him (Air. Lest out) way . and a l t h oug h he could nut admit his fitness 'for the offire that he should' • investigate the powers of thectouticil in the . ovens to wt'lich he had been appointed, he was very willing to bear ment of the Dock Estate; that he should - the -‘' his testimony in favour of his character. But he did thick it, t o , on ands tr v r expressed eigt t y of the council in th e ma nagement of Dock si" a i li l of very deep concern. a concerti which he was sure was partaken his town desire to tie the mover and projec to r Of th ' in as conected in by a very large body of intelligent individuals in the town, with the estate. He (Mr. Leto hons)theief r s ter he was not that the character of the council should be in the slightest su ffi ciently conversant with the Dock Lae i s re to ' know how the dearee injured in the estimation of the public by the adoption question hung and desired Mr. Harvey t • se e .. him. tie (Mr of the principle in filling offitial vacancies, of looking to po- Lest him)) therefore from that circu mstance ° id ' Mr. Harvey's at Wired oopintous as the exclusive qualifications for office, an d declaration to hit it front theeat * he hadrt which thereby made the interests or a large and veluable trust circumstances rt. t, that, in a re great fated, iniaosined th rs a ss t ° lllr. Harve snliservient to the objects and views merely of a party (Hear.) measure not " minis been the result 3 ;tf ' wh s a l i g h ° ,ll l fl oe 's en • stated by Mr Fie was sure they must all of them very' well remember the Walinsley, but that he had felt that he !oust be on all occasiens odium, he (night, perhaps, call it the disgrace which bad been ❑subservient to and dictated to by the opinion of the Town Clerk cast upon th e old corporation by their appointment to th is for whew, he (Mr. Leathe)t) said with • reat sint•erlt so, he had very offiice of a young man, respectable every way in himself , a great respect both personally and fur g his legal ability. He and his connexions, yet wanting in the requisite of professional did think that Mr. Harvey was borne out in the tenor of his , . . qualificatious for the o ffi ce. Now he would ask, was it right, lif he (Mr. I" ' had and was it proper, nay, was it decent that they who had merely Estate he would have acted precisely as Mr. Harvey had done. changed places with the old corporation, should, at that mo- ( Hear.) He was exceedingly sorry f what mig ht be the re tnent, pursue the very souse which they hail been the first and suit if Mr. Vaudenhuff d or ' • was tuun not to possess sufficient expe foremost to denounce ? t Hear.) He could not pretend to be rience. ' indifferent to the advantage of party c ombinetions; he knew Mr. Alderman Everts said they heard • had a great deal about they were necessary fur cat rying out great principles and tither IMr. Harvey ; he entertained a great respect fog hula and all his objects; he would not (hotly that his own course of conduct, cotinexions, hut he did assure that council that he (Mr. Harvey) were the qualifications of the parties equal, would be In favour had met with approvals of his conduct anywhere but * • of a.gentleinan of his own poliitleal opinions; trot he could not ,hat there his connex i ons. M. r Harvey . admitt e dwas a su admit that party combinations ought 'ever to be carried to that remace king hid in . the dock acts, w hich. S i • . . ~ •ssave Al ,s4pretn!icy to pitca, and still less could he admit that mere conformity of ' l O- P T the Town-clerk; er , not k • only did the I owri-clerk offer to waive all litical opinion should be taken as the rule and measure of I. 1"" - that supremacy, but ultimately they (the committee) did toot fesSional qualifications. (Hear.) If they were to recognize time urge it, but recotnmended a frieudly and free conference with the principle that 12 gentlemen, on any other members forming a view to arrangement, • an so that whether oppOsed or not, majority of the committee were to hold preparatory meetings • the dock committee might not meet with a rebuff from that in order to fix on the candidate of their choice, with the dis counc il , which he hoped would never be given in the way o f first agreement th a t the inferi or s e c tion of t he committee ' annulling, the pi oceedings of the committee. They were con should give up their feelings to the dictation of the others, they tending rather' for the independence of the dock committee and at once admitted a principle of action which could not fail to • •s• in • ' unbecoming he solicitor, than endeavouring to put him in an unbecoming lie itsjitri • ous to the Faille interests, and which must invariably position as an independent man. tie wits not asked to do any bring on theruin of , single person, who happened, perhaps, to have a larger share or sional men might never differ, both standing equally high with personal energy, sum tim canvass the interests of the separate indi- the public, and nut leave their agreement to chance. Now, so viduals of his own party as to gain over a majority to his views, far for Mr. Harvey ; he must ascribe his conduct to a morbid amid those, when it came to the trial, to ride over the judgement, and tnistalsen sensibility, and there he left it. With regard to perhaps, of their wiser and more considerate colleagues. But t h e ot her appointment, the question narrowed itself to the mere let them look to the effects of this on the public interests. It capacity of the man ; they were not aware that that could be amounted to a virtual exclusion of the very best men in the impugned. He contended that that was an improper subject town from the office altogether, for they might be very sure for the discussion of the council. There was a discretion in the that gentlemen of high standing in the profession, gentlemen dock committee, and u n l ess th e council could show that they of great legal attainments, and large professional experience. had appointed a man who was not competent to the office, it would never submit to place their tnerits in competition with was out of the jurisdiction of the council. He said it was a yin others if they happened to possess th e su p er i or recommendation lation of cool tesv to those who were responsible to the dock of political devotion and greater attachment to the dominant committee, to bring such charges as that. Now they had heard party. The consequences would inevitably be, if the proceedings nothing but vague declarations against Mr. Vandenhoff. He to which tie had alluded were to be brought before the council had made it his business to confer with those who were qualified as they must he, and if gentlemen who dissented from them to give an opinion—with a very eminent barrister—lie meant must sustain the frowns of their party, the effect might be ulti , locally eminent—(a laugh)—who knew all the professional men s' mate'. that gentlemen of character and independence weld" in Liverpool, who had said that although , Mr. Worthington was hardly be found to offer themselves even as candidates for a very clever g e ntleman, they had named One clever man who office. These were his opinions on the subject; whether they was every wa y com pet e nt for the office. 'They had all the evi were shared in by othergentlemen must remain tq be seen. He Bence on their side, and nothing brought forward to justify that was contented for himself, that he should be relieved from discussion. It was very easy for gentlemen to lay hold of a fact being supposed to give a silent acquiescence in a principle of to preach moral sermons on; be could do that directly; he action which, sooner or later, if persevered in, must bring on could preach moral sermons on general principles. (Laughter.) the moral decline of that party to which he was by principle But there should he some ground for endeavouring to inflict a attached, but which he was much more anxious to sustain in stigma upon the gentleman who had been fulfilling the trust. the respect and yowl (minima of the public, than in the irre- He would go more particularly to the matter; he would too sponsible possession of patronage (so we understood Mr. have trained Mr. North on any account; he never would have Birch. who here spoke exceedingly low). Mr. Birch sat down named any man who had made an attempt to keep the docks amidst partial applause; the out acid out, thick and thin sup- frotn the corporation. He was deputed• as one of thirteen to porters of whiggistn and jobbery maintaining a profound preserve the corporate influence in the docks. It was their Silence. . - duty to have set their faces against Mr. North, and if they had Nits Cotincillor - EARLE wished to correct a mistake in what not acted as they had done they would have betrayed their trust. Mr. Birch had stated; there was one difference in the parallel He knew not what all this meant about introducing party work he had drawn— into the council; he would recommend gentlemen not to try The MA von rose to order. There was no motion before the that subject, for if it was opened on one side it would be on the council. If any member wished to rise in reply, he thought it other, and the merits of parties would be discussed, and the ought to be permitted; but not any discussion; danger of appointing then into the bead placei of the country either of one party or the other, Would also be investigated; anti he thought that with regard to the present appointment. it they . narrowed it between the two,. Mr. North and Mr. Vendebhufe• or in fact any other man who was qualified to undertake the office, that they of the,corporation count not have acted other. wise. Mr. North was associated with geptlenien, and he be , : lieved he was also their agent in endeavouritig to dissever the corporation and the duck interept:; as he had said before; it was their bounden duty: as representatives of that council; not to elect any gentleman of that sort. (Hear.) The M wolf said, there was nu motion, and he presttmed the proceedings were coutiimed. , Mr. Councillor Coosa here rose and said, he should move; that that part of the proceedings be referred back with respect t. the dock committee appointment. , . • The MAYOR said, he had sat down. If gentlemen of the couu cii thought he should open the subject he would; but it was against.all order. . Mr.. Councillor Eiptn—People should screw up their cour age at once. DOCK COMMITTER The TOWN-CLERK proceeded to read lir. Harvey's letter of resignation of his office of solicitor to the docks, of which the following is a copy : North John-street, 15th December, 1837. "To Robert Behr), Esq., deputy-chairmau of the Dock Com mittee. •' Dear Sir,—l have again maturely considered the question upon which I troubled you with a call yesterday, and which you desired me to re-consider. " From a careful review of the constitution and powers of the dock committee controlled as that body is by the town council, • . acting in all things under the advice of their town-cleric, I have come to the deliberate conclusion, that, as solicitor of the dock trustees,.l can never feel assured that I am acting as the exclu- sive and independent solicitor of that corporation; but must always labour under this disadvantage;—that it is in the power Of those members of the town council who are also members of the dock committee, or of any one of them, or of any other member of the council, at all times, to procure a supervision, by the 'lown-clerk, of all documents framed by the Dock Solicitor for th e Dock Committee, and all advice given by him to them, and. in short, all-business done for them, in relation to matters which must necessarily form part of their proceedings. and therefore be laid heft,' e the council for confirmation or tejec lion ;—And further, that if any such member take the ground of desiring to prevent the rejection of any such documents or proceedings in the last stage, he may suggest and bring about a revision by the Town-clerk, antecedent to adoptiou by the Dock Committee themselves. "Now, although it is usual, and highly necessary, that a soli citor should have the power of consulting counsel upon any question of law, and should even be under the obligation to do so, if directed by his - client, although against his own convic tion of the necessity for it; vet, if a client make it a condition with his solicitor, that he shall; whenever required, submit do cuments, proceedings, or advice, which he frames for or givesto his client, to the revision of some ocher solicitor, much more, if the being subject to such a power of revision be almost necessa rily inherent in the nature of his employment;-then it is my decided opinion that, to a solicitor so circumstanced, there is not allowed that 'independent course of action, without which no professional man can carryon business iu a manner consist ent' with 'the duty he owes to himself. •• • • -'lf I ato asked why, entertaining these views, I ever tinder took the appointment of Dock Solicitor, the only answer I have to make in my own behalf is this;—that it did not necessarily follow that the large powers, which lie hid in the veto-section of the Dock Act of 6 Geo. 4. would be worked Out, in a way, which would lead to the Dock Solicitor becoming. in fact, a subsidiary officer to the Town-clerk ; and further I am bound to admit, that not only at the time of my appointment did I not see all the extraordinary consequences which may spring from that power of veto, but that it is owing to recent circumstances, and to the line,of conduct which certain members of your body have thought it their duty to the council to pursue,. that I have been led to consider, and to perceive (as I now do) in their full force, all the important results to which that power may be made to lead.—lt is not within my province to enter into this subject more fully; and I wish to he considered as alluding to those results, only so far as they affect the position of the Dock Solicitor. "Influenced by the foregoing considerations, I beg, most respectfully to resign into the hands of the Dock Cotntnittee the appointment they did me the high honour to confer upon me; and to request that you will do me the fevour to communi cate Inv resignation to the committee.—l remain, sir, most res pectfully, gout faithful servant, MR CURRIE'S PICTURE. The MXion read a letter from Mr. James Aiken, accompa nyingthe portrait of William ,Wallace Currie, Esq:, which ha delivered to be hung up in the council-room. The subscribers had selected Mr. Philips as ihe artist, and it now became his pleasing duty to present to the council, a picture not only faith , ful as a likeness, but highly creditable to British art. He con gratulated the council on receiving it. Mr Councillor WALLACE Cuaurti could not suf f er this subject • to pass without one,woid. He could : only say this—that ahu pict i ure which was in that room would always be to him •a re mehibrance of the, honourable approbation which the council: had`entertained of his conduct; and he should still continue to endeavour to merit that approbation not only front the council; , but from the public at large. NOTICE TO iiiiPWRIGHTS, .„ _ The MAYOR placed in the bands of the Town-clerk a memo- , rial, which the latter said was signed by the following gentle men: Messrs. Humble and Milcrest, John D. Grayson and Co.: Winos e Seddon, Lomax and WilSon, P. Challoner, Sons, and C ~, Ma View Glover and Co., John Dawson and Co., Thomas rioydon. Robert Clarke and Sons, Bannister and Simpson: Jj.rept, Stee' s Haseldeu, Pearson, and Troughton. The memo rial ran as torlows:— ", W e the undersigned shipbuilders of the port of Liverpool.' having received notices, dated the 15th instant, to quit the pre- . noses we now occupy, on the Ist day of July next, or be subject, ed to a considerable increase of rent, beg most respectfully to call your attention to, the following observations on the subject,. and it is of so much importance,, not only to ourselves, but also to fhe general interests of the port, that we hope it may be taken into your most serious consideration; From the nature of our business it would be impossible for us in almost all instances, (as it is in the present,) to give up possession of the shipbuilding yards we now occupy, at a notices of onoy six moliths as you are aware that there are nut other premises within the port that we could remove to. We are; therefore, entirely at your mercy, and hope the peculiar cir-, cumstances odour case may be, duly considered, for, upon your decision, it depends whether shipbuilding is to he continued in Liverpool. or that the immense amount expended in so doing; is to be laid out in some more favoured outport, not only to the loss and detriment of our native tradesmen and mechanics, but likewise to the Dock and Corporate Estates, and the commercial community generally. ' • " We have been at considerable expense in erecting saw-pits„ workshops, &c., (although not possessing a lease on the premi- • ses,) we are prevented from having either building yards, oe graving docks of our own, which privileges are enjoyed in. almost ail other ports, and create not, only considerable profit to the shipbuilder, but also a*reat economy in the repairing of . vessels, the charges being much less than those of this port; as . the Graving Dock rates now exist here, the same charge is, made for ten tides as for twerity-four, and it frequently occurs that two vessels have each to pay a full neap, when they have, occupied the some berth within. the twenty-four tides. The incon , venieuce arising from the extreme distance the Graving Docks are situated from each other, has not only made it necessary for_ us to have two establishments, but has creole(' d further ex pense, in being obliged to employ additional foremen, and has made it quite impossible to give the personal superintendence; we could wish to those vessels we may have had in baud. These, circumstances have already made it difficult for us to compete with the outports, in either the repairing or building of vessels,' and if the latter be discontinued, an additional expense to the former will be the consequence, as the number of our appren- - tices must be decreased, and the importation of timber, as well as every other article used in the building and repairing of Yes; sels be greatly reduced. " We beg, therefore, most respectfully to request that a deptf; tation fioin our body may be allowed to wait upon you, before any final measures are adopted, and we confidently hope we , shall be able to prove that the shipbuilding of the'port is of that' importance as to, claim your protecting influence. _ _ ':Given under our hailds this '2Bth Dec. 1837. Signed, &c.!' Mr. PLATT said he was acquainted with several of the per; sons who had subscribed the memorial, and he was of opinion that the present rates were as high as they could afford to pay, and in some instances more. Mr. Hiatt went on to say that the shipwrights had been very roughly used in many respects; and to contrast the low rents at many other places with those at Liverpool. The interests of the shipwrights were so vitallx connected with those of this great town that lie was surprised the grievance of the former had not befote bee n brought for.! watt': They had .to Cdriteed with great idvatitages at other placei, and he thought some concession ought to be made td them. lie tliodglit a ipeetai Cointhittee ought to be appointed, to hear the shipwrights in their own defence. There were plenty of individuals proper to judge, aitiongst whom he would. name Mr. Wood and Mr. Brocklebank. At the sug ; :estion of the Mayor, Mr. Platt gave notice of 0: motion to the above effect next council. Mr Councillor CURRIE said the revision of the shipwrights' yards had been a part of their duty that had been the must diffi-; cult and troublesome task they had to perform. The animnui with which that duty luta been undertaken, was to set that the corporation gut a 'air rent for the property entrusted to them: He wished heartily for the shipwrights to be heard, and befor e . the finance committee, for he had heard nothing from Mt.' Platt that showed any reason for the appointment of a separate committee. The Finance Committee had their earl as open,' and their senses as accute us any other set ofgentlemen,' anti he had paid great attention to the subject. He was in pet feet. ignorance as to how the hardships that had been spy- en of. could be made out. Some of the shipwrights paid a rent of 934(1. to 10d. a square yard, and the proposed rent was now Is. 9d. per square yard ; others who paid hid. were to pay ls. It behoved them, as individuals entrusted with the care of the corporate estate, to see that the land was nut too low let. The laud in question would let much higher. The question was, whether they should, to preserve the shipbuilding, take much -less-fur the land than it would let for. Mr. Councillor Platt said he was perfectly satisfied with Mr. Currie's explanation. All the parties wanted. was to be beard, and their cases investigated. His only motive was to save the Finance Comittee trouble. Mr. Councillor Wallace CURRIE.--17v - e are not afraid of trouble Mr. Platt. Mr. Alderman LEATHOM said the shipwrights would have an, opportunity of finding accommodation at the West side of the 'Brunswick Dock, shortly, if their present premises were too high rented, without being driven over to the Cheshire side. The memorial was then referred to the Finance Committee.. The MAYOR presented another similar memorial Irma the occupiers of slate yards, which was also referred. Mr. Couueillor WOOD said, he understood the slate yards were to be augmented to 3s. 6d. per yard; if so, and the ship; wri,,cht's )ards were only to be augmented to fs. 9d. per yard the slate yards were charged to high. Mr. Councillor Cumuli, said, Mr. Wood was correct as to .. the price he had named. The land in the vicin it y of those yards was worth L-1 6s. per yard. A great number of titivate memorials on the same subject followed, which were referred. A motion was agreed to that the overseers of the out-townships make the necessary returns fur laying a watch rate on the new parts of the borough. Posr.oFrica. Mr. Ev ANs, in a speech of considerable length, advocated the expediency of having put the post-office at the New Custom , house as the most central and convenient site for the merchants . who were the principal parties to be considered in a town likti Liverpool. He stated, that he had seen Mr. Tomkinson at the building, and that gentleman bad pointed out to him how, by merely pulling clown a wall, he could, for an expense that would not exceed £lOO, adapt the rooms built and intended for the Post-office, so that they would answer the 'purpose excellently; both as regarded light and room. He contended for the impor tance of conceding to the commercial portion of the town every convenience, and concluded by proposing; that a deputation should be sent to London to communicate with the govern ment on the subject, as no time was to be lost, Colonel Maberlii and Mr. Baring having expressed their determination of decid- - ing on the matter during the recess. Mr. WAINISLKY seconded the motion. Mr. Boi.ToN thought it would be well to purchase the Old' Fish market, at :he top of James-street; add build a Yost-office on the laud. . _ ..... • Mr. WOOLWRIGHT thought the interests of the shopkeepers ought to be considered as well as those of the merchants, and that the present site or the post-office was the most convenient. Mr. BLACKBURN thought it would be well if Mr. Evans first took the sense of the council, as to whether thtt new Custom house was the proper place for the Post-office. After a long discussion, in the course of which diantinemberi addressed the council, the motion was' put after the manner proposed by Mr. Blackburn. Forty•two memberi stood up favour of the Custom-house as a proper place for the Post-office,. and only tu•o against it. The latter were .Messrs. Woolright and Jordan. The question was then put respecting the deputation with a similar result. Mr. Evans and Mr. Shiel were then named to be the deputa- tion. Mr. BLACKBURN gave notice of a motion for the council to' petition government, that the apprenticeship system, as regards the Negroes in . the West Indies, cease in August , 1838, instead of 1840. • The TowN-CLERK begged to say a few "Words in reference to' what bad fallen from Mr. Leatho►n during the discussion ou the appointment, of a solicitor to the Dock trust. He could not remember that any such words had dropped from him as those named by Mr. Leatboin; but, perhaps, if that gentleman were_ afterwards to mention to him the subject of their conference, it' might be recalled to his memory, and he might be able to ex • plain the import of what he had said. He had, he said, done every th►ng in his power to heal the breach that had arisen. The 111 A yoR and Mr. EVANS bore out the Town-clerk in the' latter statement. Mr. LEATHOM testified his readiness to confer with the Town= clerk, and assist in recalling to h►s memory the words which he had used. The council then broke up at half-past three. MEctiAritcs INsTurcTiorr. — The lectures have again beeri resumed at this excellent institution. Dr. Kane delivered the first lecture of a course On chemistry, on Wednesday evening; to a numerous and attentive audiecce. As there is not a more extensively awful science than that of chemistry, we feel nb doubt that the audiences will increase as the Doctor proceeds. There is hardly a class of persons in this town whose comforts' are not materially increased by this science, or to whom a knowledge of its principles cannot fail to be highl/ important. In our next publication we shall give a full report of the lee- . tuie. MFt. STUBBS' ANNUAL BALL.—We PerCeive, b$ an adver tisement, that Mr. Stubbs holds his annual bill this evening, as the Knights Templars'-hall, Great George-street. Mr. Stubbs' harmonic band will be in attendance, and will play some spien% did new quadrilles, the music from Venice. The assembly it expected to be an agreeable one. OKMSKIRK BALL --On Wednesday evening the anntial ball was held 'at Ormsk irk, and in no respect was inferior to the former celebrated hails held at that town. There was an immense assemblage of Dui beauty and fashion of tire county, and the bail coMmittee did their ut most by their arrangements to render the evening agreeable to all parties. Stubbs' harmonic hand was in attendance, and played the Venetian music which, was so much admired .at the ladies' charity ball in Liverpool last week. Among st the elite of the company we observed the Hon. Miss Bootle Wilbraham. the Countess of Balearres, the lion. 11. - 15. Wilbraham, M P. it. Townley Parker, Esq., M.P., the Hon. Captain ft Wilbraham, ihe Hon. Colonel Lindsay, C o r nwa ll Leigh, Esq.. of High Leigh. D e edes,Kent, Colonel ftswa..' tonne Mrs. Towtiley.Parker, Mr, William Rawstorn. Miss liawstoru Mr. Edward Egerton, Tattun, Mr. Arthur Halton, Mr, Jss. Ai:4O4W Liverpool,