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Nov• 14, 1843 admirable manner. Was he not fixed upon by the coun cil as one individual most fitted to watch the Fire Preven e .E EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. tion Bill through both houses of parliament ; and can you tit/la's-The enclosed reply to two letters which .. lately judgment that he did not go through this with ability and . . . There are many other things which I could d e a ar ed in the Liverpool Mail, charging the ministers . of bring forward in favour of this gentleman, but the length v ". o's e Z e s _ at eb church here with breaking their ordination of this letter forbids my doing so. It appears to me that lh at "co having been refused insertion at the office of a — paper unless I would pay for it as, an advertisement, Mr. James . Lawrence ' s public conduct has been such as .1,17 request you to give it publicity in your columns on to merit the . approbation of all classes of the community,_ Way therefore, in the remark you made, it could not apply to te e p„, a3 next, as a simple act of justice to the parties him on that ground. But, perhaps, there may be some '', raediately concerned. thing in his private conduct which would make him so I am, Sir, immeasurably Mr. Gladstone's inferior; and yet, even Yours respectfully, JOHN GARDNER. that I think will be ar th e s t r i c t es t scru ti ny. F or straight forwardness, independence, high-mindedness, and honesty I`o he will bear comparison with yourself ; and if we look a % ix THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL MAIL. little deeper, and touch upon . his moral virtues,. they do Qt the ettblic , of Liverpool_ owe you and your .wor- reflect a purity, a gleam of which even you, Sir, pure as Qt. th e eleendent, ' Presbyter," a deep debt of gratitude you may be, could not but be ambitious to obtain. If q th_ Scotch Church . question, and for the extremely de- am at a loss to know where would be the deficiency; 4;14 'fle c h aritable way in which you have, of late, been set ll t w ith the ministers among us who have, "in a surely it is not in the fact that his business does not re quire him to traverse the flags of the Exchange, (and I Pe es _ large e space in the public eye of Liverpool at pre- you may depend upon it if this is the only point in which carried away by free church principles. Re- he is deficient, you will find that there is a spirit and de ter. 4 i t a o the letter of " Presbter "in your paper of Sa- termination in this town which, once roused, will make You make the remark that it sets the case in you and your haughty fellow merchants quail under their !setitllicitlPitlight in a few words; and you therefore recom- lash. Let me then advise you and your supporters to Slitt erest t, the attention of such of your readers as take an consider well before you make such injudicious, improper, eer I t l i , the subject. In this calm and philosophical and uncalled for comparisons, for they can only tend to lei th e "subject is set at rest," and " a service is cast reflections and insult upon the main stay of this town, nioe c' s e Peblic," by the publication of the sage con- viz., the honest and independent tradesmen. ' , 1 , -. 701 : I. which—by a process of strict, logical reason- and Your c orres p on d ent h ave arr i ve d . I am, Sir, yours very respectfully, h eo aittel i r s oW the n , s i r, i s th i s grave subject set at rest ? and ite t i o re cert a i n ministers proved to have broken their or- N CASTIGATOR. ov ' 11, 1843. a a ka P, vo ws ? " Presbyter" quotes corr ectly the for- • Will'sed b . y each minister when ordained ; and then, FUBLICANISM.—There w e re fi ve pu bli cans , an d th ree echo ei a Principles, proceeds to reason upon the same. beersellers, brought before the ma g istrates at the police- A s; k r, I admit the force of th e reason i ng , on hi s own court, on Friday, all of whom were fined in various I'lh e u ttt I deny th e app li ca bili ty e i t h er o f t h e prem i ses amounts from £ 3 to £l. , is N eu seo_n c jusion to the point at i ssue . Th e m i n i s t ers t o • I n t h e C ourt o f E xc h equer, on Wednesday, a rule nisi es, ref erence is here made, a n d, o f cours e, m a de w ith f or a new tr i a l was o b ta i ned in the case of Needham v. reit • kltet, intentions, hold the doctrines, worship, govern- Law, tried at the recent assizes in this town. The action eetlild discipline, as these existed when they accepted was against the Leicestershire and Warwickshire Banking se,„°°; and they still hold these as they exist in the Company, and was for money lent. 11 ms of the h h 10 , . s c UrC . . EASTHAM FERRY.—We learn that Sir W. M. Stanley Sfia trange, but easily comprehended oversight, besides building a new pier and hotel at Eastham, is about a'eurser" does not perceive the words " presently" to build a number of handsome villas at that pleasant cies_vre Present establishment" in the formula ; and so he ) 44 9 at once to ferry, and to take other steps for drawing towards it part s a blip._ , the grave and solid conclusion, that the of the vast population which is now spreading from Liv- ZiSe etsi uto Church in Scotland now is the same, in all erpool on all sides, in search of fresh air and rural lit ; ° as she has ever been • and would have us believe scenery. kill l trre sPective of all changes which have taken place, ieslster s en FATAL ACCIDENT.--On Monday last, Thomas Beving ereese must adhere to her. Suppose, for the sake of ton, while going on board the steamer Blanche, which was 10 ,1111,Z t t o beEstablished Church in Scotland to become. lying at the Duke's pierhead, unfortunately fell into the Cie 04 s _ be overrun by heresy of any name, ministers water, and was drowned. The deceased was got out a few The first quarterly meeting of the newly constituted ;e se „,19F - .k Principles of reasoning, still adhere to her, • •- • minutes after the accident, and conveyed to the receiving Council was held, pursuant to the statute, on Tuesday. inty, t 'C' ,, the Church was in a state of comparative house, where every means was used to restore animation, There was a very full attendance, but business did not '''Be ts aY had sworn to uhold her. I most explicitly but without effect.—Verdict accidental. commence until about ten minutes to twelve. Intisaellt, hastle present Establishment . in Scotland . is the The MAYOR then rose and said . that the first duty of ; 1 11 o f t ` i i_ ever been ; and this on the authority, not MORE FARMING EXPERIMENTS.—Another of our Li the Council would be to elect his successor. Isn_ave,htitaose noble men who have renounced her commu- verpool . gentlemen farmers, Mr. Harold Littledale, has Mr. SANDS said that it was well known both in and out ti et a oh the authority of the leading moderates in the just introduced the cultivation . of the globe . beet,. on his of the Council that it was the intention of his friends to toe Es tablishment. But as lam not called upon to farm at Wallasey. This valuable root, which is carcely put him in nomination, but he had received a communi , ese a ss a eg,ative, I leave to "Presbyter" and you, the known in the north of England, but to which Mr. Pusey cation from the present Mayor, that a statement had been 4 , iei t "eyeing that the Established Church in Scot- has given strong praise, in the " Transactions of the s Roya n - 1 made by Mr. Corrie, the receiver of the town dues, fitsim „, .8 connexion with the state, and as a church, is Society of England," is in shape very like . a Swedish made to his house that the clerk had, for a period of tl'oliellealri_doctrine, worship,.g9eernment, and discipline turnip, but grows to a larger size. It requires no great years, been call.ng bales " trussee," and cases . " boxes." inteh i : e s y n er been. No minister in the Presbyterian d th of soil, bears transplanting very well, and forms an Now, he knew nothing about this. They believed that ;nee C_ t gland, holding Free Church principles . , has ex e . c p ellent food for cattle and for sheep but especially for they were doing that which was right and correct ; but, In is ordination vows, but, on the contrary, is the milch cows, as it gives no bad taste to the ' milk. until that imputation was wiped away, he must decline the e lt a t a b ° oPholding these in all their integrity, and prov- BIGAMY.—A middle-aged female, not of very prepos- honour which was intended to be conferred upon him— „Mash e world his sincerity in so doing by suffering re- sessing appearance, was brought before Mr. Rushton, on the highest honour which the Council had in its power to It a ar ld loss. But there is another grievous fallacy in Saturday, on a charge of having married William Wash ale tar o f 44 bestow. (Hear, hear.) He thought the Council would Presbyter." He seeks to identify the mi- ington during the lifetime of her first husband. It ap lots of be of opinion that he was taking the right course ;—for his Meters the Presbyterian Church in England with the peared, from the evidence, that the first marriage took own honour as a gentleman, and as a British merchant.— ! et:tleet: Ministers the Church in Scotland. This is quite in- place in St. Philip's Church, in April, 1839, and the sec- and the honour of his party, were all involved in the mat ,es h e Ministers ordained by Presbyteries in England and at St. David's Church, in May, 1843. At the time ter. , Nie to "' ordained not for the Established Church in she became acquainted with' Washington she was acting as Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.—There must be an investiga- Z t teul ~ but for the Presbyterian Church in England, a nurse at the Infirmary and he was patient in the insti- tion. 'etio "ion with the Church of Scotland—a con- tution. The courtship was there commenced, she hay- Mr. SANDS. — lnvestigation !of course! I demand in -14 w il h. e xisting only in sending friendly deputations, ing represented herself to be a widow. She had nothing ' 4 4 leh vestigation. (Hear, hear.) es te es , may be dissolved at any given moment with- to say in her defence, and was commuted for trial. Mr. A. LACE wished to state, that throughout the Ca s h 1 41 loss to either party. The Presbyterian DEATH FROM DEBILITY.—An inquest was held be- whole of the painful discussion on this subject, which ;i:lie, ; 'n England is a separate, independent church, fore the borough Coroner, on Saturday, to inquire into commenced on Monday evening last, Mr. Sands's anx iieta4,deed the Westminster standards, but free from the circumstances touching the death of a new-born fe- iety had been that everything on his art should be tho -17.d. 1/ .oe the part of the Established Church in Scot- male child. It appeared, from the evidecce, that, as a roughly investigated. Until the slightest imputation upon fCeie' n ee e :e!leisters of the Presbyterian Church in England female of the name of Mary Aikin was going up a dark him was wiped away, he felt that, as a man of honour, he et i nle only to their own presbytery and synod,. and entry in Leigh-street, the evening before, she kicked ought not to aspire to that situation, which they intended 08. the least degree so to any church courts in Scot- against something with her foot, and that, on getting a to confer upon him. Every gentleman would agree that `011ph..4 sentence of deposition may be, and has been, light, she discovered that it contained the body of the Mr. Sands had come to a right decision, and acted in the ki N te red by the Presbyterian Church in England, on deceased, tied up in a handkerchief. Mr. George Woods manner which it became every honourable man to adopt fie IV being a licentiate of the Church of Scotland ; surgeon was of opinion that the child had been born under such circumstances. (Hear, hear.) The proceed eet ice such" sentence is reported to the presbytery alive, that it had only breathed for a few minutes, and ings which were at present going on at the other side of 'Q l eb the minister has received his license to preach that it died from debility. A verdict to that effect was the water would most materially affect the town of Liver talli Ilet,Pel, and to the General Assembly, such sentence accordingly returned. pool, inasmuch as those proceedings involved the whole 'Blsi '°rtnally confirmed by either court. but is simply _ ~.. iv aee f _ . of further extension of dock room. Important t oe ,__ or their own guidance as to the deposed person, BENSON v. CHAPMAN.—This case came before the question matters would have, therefore, to come before the council Court of Common Pleas, on Wednesday, as a special is!tlee i nof that the Established Church claims no juris in the course of the year • and, under such circumstances, INT this kingdom. Ministers of the Presbyterian case. reotijoy The action was brought , to recover the ' amount of a he hoped he should . not be ' stepping out of his course if he of in . surance effected on the ship Neptune, trading e t t4 th e ! a England are at full liberty, as ale all men, to said that the council would do well to request of Mr. Ro b between Liverpool and Pernambuco, which was materially kr p ha ll i °wn views as to the principles adopted, and bertson Gladstone to continue in office for twelve months damaged when off the latter place. The cargo was taken otrii',' , r by any separate church ; and they are also at longer. (Cheers.) He meant not the slightest disrespect out, and certain repairs were done. As soon as the li o 'n th ,cy w'ei hart to act, publicly and privately, in con towards the twe other gentlemen who were intended to be owner heard of the vessel having been wrecked, be gave ellicilet toththotheir own views,. so churchlon t g ne asthe d in° notice of abandonment to the underwriters, as for a total put in nomination—(we believe Mr. James Lawrence and hurt or prejudice of Mr. Geo.ll. Lawrence) but as Mr. Gladstone possessed t trsh . t s h e ey .. are ministers. In conjunction . with , their loss, The question was whether, when a vessel is injured, the confidence of the whole council, and was best suited and requires more repairs than she is worth, the assurer i l :eeti ee eeeons, they are also at perfect liberty to make to proceed to London to carry on the great matters which c_ i r ma g g i e v s e notice of a total abandonment, and recover 6.7 , wi t r for any object which they may deem a righteous would have to be carried on there this year, he hoped that from the underwriters. Sir I'. Wilde argued on Coarse,Meet consulting trustees, or any other parties; he should be seconded by some gentleman, or, indeed, by behalf of the plaintiff, and Mr. Sergeant Channel! ap- Oct in these, and in all other matters, thee are the whole council—(hear, hear)—when he proposed that peered for the defendants.—Judgment deferred. Chot aas the higher ecclesiastical courts, before which, Mr. Gladstone should be requested to accept the office of er r ,re e „::"°Yrnously, in the pages of a newspaper, how- MURDER.—An inquest was held, on Saturday, before Mayor for the ensuing year. (Loud applause.) He re ; le t t l :ite r Z e table, they should be accused and tried. The the borough Coroner, to inquire into the circumstances pealed that he meant not the slightest offence to any one, a, ti e eunjustly calumniated in this, and a preceding touching . the death of a new-born female child.. John but as Mr. Gladstone possessed the confidence of all par ele entitles ur columns, would, had they been ministers of Harrison, a porter, stated, that, as he was going along ties, he trusted that every gentleman would yield to him, kilb h e . bed church in Scotland, have seceded along Grafton-street, about half-past six o'clock the evening whether he were an advocate for docks at the north or k4o,bein D rethren—at least I may say so for myself— before, lie observed the body, .in a state of nudity, lying docks at the south, for every thing sank in importance k e t her I :_as they most undoubtedly are, ministers of ,on the parapet, and that, a police officer having immedi- compared with the great question of docks elsewhere, ktfe e _a c erch, they are not called upon to secede from , ately called, it was conveyed to the Southern Hospital. which would soon agitate the town. (Hear, hear.) &ep ee le hurch, as there exist no grounds to warrant , Mr. Andrew M'Clennan, one of the Surgeons, of the Mr. SANDS.—I beg to say one word more, which I in- Vtel:l,t tv e a n_ so doin g . It is publicly and privately asserted, , hospital, said, that there were three marks of contusions, tended to say before. It is simply that the practice we e ell e bound to leave the churches which we at pre- 1 one on the left cheek, another on the left side of the head, have followed has been that of most of the respectable lirillte v ie D Y• I most unhesitatingly say that we are not. and a third on the right side of the forehead. He was of gentlemen merchants in the town of Liverpool, a list of ,tch e; t Present, boricifide ministers of the established opinion that the child had been born . alive, and that con- whom I now hold in my hand. (Hear, hear.) i1,. 8 r the Scotland, we would not be called to account at 1 cussion of the brain, the result of violence, such as . a fall Mr. ISAAC HOLMES. Sands's name is only men liTted an Principles held by us, so long as we had not ,or blow, had been the cause of death. A verdict of tinned first, because it stands first in the town— ll ei e 3r .ueed of demissi on o r act of separation. Look , " Wilful murder " was accordingly returned against some The MAYOR.—Mr. Holines's evidence will be received e l l J'e nlie r ing cases of Bennie and Glover, of Edinburgh, person or persons unknown. very gladly, at the proper moment, but at the present qtehth,Y b e f or s °D, of Currie—the former of whom, immedi- INCENDIARY FlRE.—Between one and t w o o'clock on time Mr. Sands had better confine his own remarks to , vi e the disruption, declared that the established Sunday morning last, a large oat stack, the property of what relates to himself. If others have been concerned e el tio ea ewed in the light of the Court of Session and , John Gore, a respectable f a r m e r , a t R o by, about four in transgressing the law, it will be for them to be respon kiskild Is's` of Lords, was a " moral nuisance, and as such , m il es an d a half from Liverpool, was found to be on fire, sible i n their own persons, but I think the council will be an d te e ' swept from the face of the earth." All these, ' and 200 bushels of very fine oats, part of the produce of of opinion that Mr. Sands will do best to defend himself, i 4„, hY other se es s _ .s, remain quietly in possession of their a Cheshire acre and three-quarters of land, were destroy- and himself only. (Hear, hear.) Ido not see that it can e t : 1 1 0e seeeo stipends, and have never, so far as we have ed. The property was insured in the Atlas office for XBOO. serve him to say that others have been doing what he has kit With ", been called to an account. I n consistency i There is but too much reason to belie v e th a t the stack done. Sitting here, I should not do my duty if I allowed e s e th e Procedure of the establishment, we would ! was maliciously set on fire; for no fewer than five gates, the characters of others to be impugned. 1 1' Yet be Pe, tv ee . called upon by the church courts to resign , belonging to the adjoining fields, had been taken off their Mr. SANDS.—I beg pardon. Mr. Mayor; but lam not t ilk s i t et 0 7 ev e , e were we in Scotland. Ido not speak at 1 hinges and thrown into the middle road, for the purpose, impugning their characters. lam not admitting that I ke, l tatie- wn at we should feel bound to do in such cir- as is supposed. of impeding the progress of the engines h ave done wrong myself. (Hear. hear.) Ido not admit !Ostie, ss as a testimony for the truth. then, as to the to the scene. The West of England engine from the town, the allegation. (Hear, hear.) I deny it ; nor am I im , % e a r P,roperty, which is held "in terrorem" over our came in contact with one of the gates, and was in danger pugning the characters of others. liatire e j plain truth is this, that, while in the event of of being overturned. Not far from the stack, about 40 The MAYOR.—I think Mr. Sands will admit that there yards, a box of lucifer matches was found under a hedge. is, in the first instance a prima facie case against him, t u .eitig : r e tion of a minister the pciat ma be raised of It appears that Gore' had, during the last autumn, cut and that there is nothing against others. (Hear, hear.) ,svv, ( e , not being a licentiate of the church established i lb est a beeost of the trust deeds requiring a licentiate of down the wages of his Irish labourers, and that he thereby Now I think I should be doing injustice to the community tkit l , 8, 1 shed church,) yet, as to the present locum- caused a general outcry to be raised against him in that if I allowed the names of others to be introduced here. Sftl, calla ring a point can neither in . law . nor in justice be part of the country, and by that class ; and itis presumed iit'esti a ' s elaig that all of them are licentiates of the church that the fellows adopted the present mode of revengin I Mr. SANDS.—I have the authority of Mr. Thomas Ripley, one of the greatest merchants in this town, and tt t el 2e,b .. 4 l,_a i lli have ii done tt nothing either here or else- themselves for his illiberality. It is said, that they had one of the largest importers, for saying that he has been ;il 4 ,f i s a f i f tie ' e ei d h . 1 htoldiritstaheuns to o an be in the slightest de be at once most unjust previously been dropping hints and using threats as to in the habit of doing precisely the same thing, and he what might happen in case he persevered in his attempt. told me that 1 might mention his name in the council. Ohjillest lona to charge ministers with " trifline with the kit:l e ntil s : l ° 6 l)les of morality and as havin no claim to COUNTY SESSIONS.—An adjourned annual meeting of (Hear, hear.) . . ,t4s'ent „I•''' It not unireqiiently happens, Sir, that in a magistrates was held at Preston on Monday last, for the Mr. LACE thought it right not to enter into . the.ques is t /itti - I bap s e others by purpose of electing a governor of the Preston House of tion now, and therefore that Mr. Sands was right !ri not t ot hio ,tit atid _ty . unconsciousness, we . judge o case Correction, in the room of Mr. Edmund Gibbs, resigned, accepting the office of mayor before the matter was inves. 4 ,„ it , ,,.41 1 , a ufo, but whether it . be so in the present . a and transacting other business, of which notice had been tigated and cleared up. N enti o „' o 2 I know, and desire to know, nothing of given. There were eighty magistrates present, and the Mr. Alderman harafes.—lt was at my suggestion that 17at ger ;s li e lte thing, however, I would press upon his Rev. Jonathan Brooks, rector of Liverpool, presided. Mr. Sands got up to mention that numbers of other tt, , 0 1. 1 he I , l B Peeks of mprality. Let him then . know The number of candidates for the vacant governorship houses had acted as he has acted. (Hear, hear.) He e ve to ell e, i _ erality in principle is love to God in the was twenty, but several of them were withdrawn. On the had a list in his hand of the first houses in the town, and tit e l e God . " Practice, it is love to man e flowing from st votine the numbers were—for W. Martin 34 ; E. I asked him why lie did not mention it. tit: de st l a lld certain it is, the letter ot Presbyter is reL l thia lt Te of the essence of all ninrnlitv—thp fiteppard, b 2oe S : _Banister and J. Goodwin, 7 each; and Alderman Sir 1 FIOMAS BRANCKER begged to second the motion of his friend Mr. Lace. He was quite satis fied that the important matters to come befare the council during the ensuing year would be of a descriptions to re quire the very greatest amount of discretion, and if Mr. Gladstone acceded to the request to occupy the chair for year, he would confer a great obligation on the CORRESPONDENCE. TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS. On Tuesday a special meeting of the Council was I..eltit at the Town-hall, " for the purpose of appointing some officer of the corporation to be (subject to the pleasure of the Council) Sergeant -at-Mace, until the appointment to that office (now vacant) is filled up according to the stand ing orders." The MAYOR opened the proceedings by stating that, contrary to the usual practice, it had been his duty, on the recommendation of the Town-Clerk, to request the attendance of the Council to communicate the lamented death of Mr. Roscoe, who held the appointment of Ser geant-at-Mace; and to bring before them the propriety of appointing some officer to discharge the duty for the pre sent, the confirmation being subject to the pleasure of the council hereafter. The TOWN-CLERIC said, the Sergeant -at-Mace in this borough was the officer of the Civil Court of Record. His duties in that capacity were similar to those discharged by the under-sheriff of a county. He had the appoint ment, suspension, and finally, if necessary, the removal of all the officers who were known as sheriff's officers or bailiffs. It was his duty to take care that those officers satisfactorily accounted to the suitors of the court fer the monies they levied, and that they conducted themselves in such a way as to act with humanity towards persons in custody, and also when they took possession of the goods of families. He would simply suggest that a gentleman might be proposed temporarily to fill the office, who would not, under any circumstances, be a claimant for the final appointment ; and he would suggest that the present as sistant registrar, Mr. Francis Venn, should hold the tem porary appointment. _ Mr. LLOYD said, the only question which seemed to arise with respect to the appointment of Mr. Venn was, as to whether he should be appointed, he being the Deputy Registrar, and the person who issued the processes. The TOWN-CLERK said he would suggest that as the many duties to be discharged by Mr. Venn were to be without emolument, it was only fair that he should not sustain any responsibility, but that that should fall on the borough fund. Mr. Lr,oYn moved that Mr. Francis Venn be appointed to the office during the pleasure of the council, and that in the diligent discharge of his duty he be indemnified by the council, his present emoluMents comprising his whole compensation. Mr. THomPsoN seconded the motion, which was unan imously adopted. It was understood that the instruction to the Borough Court Committee should be made on the 9th instant, immediately after that committee should have been appointed. . The Council adjourned at twenty minutes after eleven o'clock. T. W. Hill, 6. On the second voting the numbers'were —Martin, 37; Sheppard, 35 ; and the former was, ac cordingly, elected by a majority of two. Sir Thos. Potter then brought forward a motion to the effect that at the hurrying close of the present financial year the hundreds o f S a lf or d rpminii and West Derby shall be separated from the rest of the ~••• •aii../1 411.11 7, 1 14 ' t hinke - th no evil. Before he ventun <6O ere I,`,: e rs, let him lay his band upon his hea Iti t le tn.' Pronounce the sentence. He may litttli),4tin:llwho delight in " injunctions," and_ in ghee pleasure of seeing Scit 4t -ect i„`"crs, of an injunction given by one of . old, t! foreietla the law of his day, and given in precisely ') cir,illstances. Take heed to yourselves what ye :4 4 41,g as touching these men. " Refrain from these 41 0 41 e0 t heca alone; for if this counsel or this t It 1 4 , 0 ve rt vc,;l, k come to nough ‘Q od ':,row it, lest, hapl y income anc He observed that the population of the northern division was only 402,671, and the valuation £1.362,850 ; whilst in the southern divi s ion the popula tion was 1,264,383, and the valuation £4,828,217. This motion was, however, after some discussion, r: jected by a majority of 24, the numbers being—for, 13; against, 37. expenditur town at large. (Hear, hear.) - Mr. H. HORNBY thought that after what had fallen from Mr. Sands and Mr. Evans, this discussion was pre mature. In the next place, he could not hold, and h e trusted neither that council nor the law of Liverpool would hold, that because a practice was general it was therefore right. (Hear, hear.) Until the investigation had taken place they had nothing to do but withhold their judgment, and he hoped the public would do the same. (dear, hear.) It was with great satisfaction he had heard it proposed that the present Mayor should be con tinued in office another year. (Loud and general ap plause.) _ _ , utif it be of God, ye ye be found even to I am, Sir, yours respectfu qAiser of th e Scotch C JOH N GARDNER hurch, Birkeul QbeNber 1° THE VISPENSAILIES.—We have been requested to call special attention to the important facts set forth in the memorial from Messrs Morrall and Fosberry, vice-presi dents of the Liverpool Dispensaries, which was presented lb MR. ALDERMA to the Council on Monday week, and referred to the Finance Committee. We cannot suppose that the Coun cil and the town at large will allow a debt approaching to £1,700 upon those invaluable institutions to remain for any longer time unliquidated, the more particularly when they are informed that unless additional funds be placed at the disposal of the committee one of the Dispensaries will have to be closed. The case calls imperatively for immediate consideration : I • t tl h th e debate in Council, on Thursday la re-election of Robertson Gladstone, Y, You th oug h t proper (if I may b el i e lleee Sires sPaper tto make a comparisoi of gentl e man tha reor for filling the o ffi c la the fo t ll in words 0k) " 8 eonfe 't ow er g painful alternative f the r ss l I v y f p Mr. Gladstone, 1- w o , ‘ ,„ e-e ectiog o r`.C'gh t 1 ` 3 "" not mention nam_, ,e substituted for him was one who , in his i 8) °Pinion in all the requisites of a Mayor t", tneasurady his inferior." Now, Sir, with ~, 1 1 4 4 4 1 ) 1 e i' t ° , l 3 the successor of Mr. Gladstone would Tx he,, W as 'TS a matter of doubt, a+ t w "zed on or that , t di tt ive fc! gentleme up n, I f believe, t N.. to : lea ds, one of who m I cla B OPPort ; however, I am 11 1 1 that your remark v e rvvo t ; et e gentlemen in qi kttlad Air. James Lawrenc Bed : challenge you to a dit i or that you would Iti:e• Co it• • at, L . d be, Sir, t t 10 kip:Vl-mind e d, an d 11 to' All ' ll to a gentlem ~ the • • h bato . civic C o " re," t herefore I mr NOP EVANS The council seemed about to pass the motion for Mr. Gladstone's re-election unanimously, without further dis cussion, when Mr. Alderman EVANS rose and said, that however un popular the course he was about to take might appear, he would pursue it. There was no man in that council that entertained a higher opinion of the present Mayor, or his fitness for the office, than he did ; but the question of his re-election involved a general principle, and was the com mencement of a system under which civic honours might ring the changes amongst a few families or individuals, and they would see every individual made twice a Mayor. (Hear, hear.) " 0," it would be said, "you made Mr. So-and-so Mayor twice, and he has not half the merit of our friend." Now, he held that the rotation of honours, —the opening of a wide field, and conferring them on a great number,—was a great encouragement to good con duct on the part of those who entered the council, and he had no notion that they ought to narrow the honour for any of tne temporary reasons that he had heard assigned. He wanted to see the council benches well filled with men who had received the highest honours in the town, in order that others might conceive that it was not an unat tainable position for any one of them. (Hear, hear.) He must confess it was a very painful alternative for him to oppose the re-election of Mr. Gladstone, because, though he would not mention names, the person who probably might be substituted for him, was one who, in his (Mr. Evans') opinion, in all the requisites of a Mayor, would be immeasurably his inferior. The MAYOR was sure that if he had failed, on a late occa sion, to find terms of fitting acknowledgment for the kind ness of the council towards himself, he had much more reason now to feel deeply indebted to them for what had passed that day. (Hear, hear.) The opinion just ex pressed by Mr. Alderman Evans was the answer he (the Mao To the Worshipful the Mayor, Aldermen, and Council of the Borough of Liverpool. The Committee of the Liverpool Dispensaries beg leave respectfully to lay before the Mayor and Common Coun cil, the following statement, hoping that it may appear entitled to a favourable consideration, with a view to ad ditional assistance from the Borough Fund. The Dispensaries have now been in active operations during a period of sixty-five years, the calls upon them have been annually increasing with the increase of the town, until at length the number of cases relieved during the past year amounted to 46,528. A strict inquiry is made in each case as to the ability of the party to pay for medical aid, and none are relieved except those whose poverty gives them a claim upon the charity of others. s, the person who pro- )e proposed by their ell know you were stifled in cOnli vas intended for ial that Were it not for this institution, it is evident that the par ish would be responsible in all these cases, and thus an immense additional expenditure be entailed on the poor rates. Nevertheless the parish authorities have declined contributing at all to the funds of the Dispensaries. Owing to this circumstance and the inadequacy of the public support, unless additional funds are in the mean time placed at their disposal, the committee look forward to a deficiency at the end of the year of £1,700, which "I oblige however reluctantly, to close one of the amount of suffering which will neces -,11 a step, it is painful to con Eyre i 3 the c r how far Mr. J le committee not b gave that morning to a deputation of gentlemen at he would suffer (Hear, hear.) He ❑pon him to request t nomination ty was object of er of that cou THE LITERPOOL STANDARD. He thought there was no good ground at present to justify any individual in holding the office for two' years. What would the country say Y Either that he (Mr. Gladstone) was. the only individual fit to preside over the town of Liverpool, or that there was- some under-current at work which ought not to exist. (Loud cries of "Hear, hear," and " No, no," from Mr, Aspinall and others.) In making tbese observations, if he did not appear to be grateffil, he did not appear to be what he really was at that moment. (Hear.) He had experienced no thing but kindness from the council, but he could not shut his eyes to the fact, that the council ought to take the highest grounds for all its proceedings, but in this es pecially, and he thought it was only right and fair that everyman, by good conduct, and by the honest and faithful discharge of his duties to the council, should look, at some time, as a fair object of ambition, to ascend to the chair. (Hear, hear.) He happened to commnicate lately to one who was very near and dear to him, the idea that had been suggested by some friends that he should again be a candidate for the mayoralty ; but the reply he re ceived was opposed to his accepting the offer, (if made,) with the remark, that " turn about is fair play.' (Hear, and laughter.) He saw on all sides of that room men as fit as himself for the office. He thought he should be damaging the fair fame and reputation of the council by accepting it, for he did not see how he could do so without affording ground for the inference to be drawn that he was the only person amongst them qualified to hold the office of Mayor. (No, no.) Without affectation, he might say, that if they had re-elected him, it would have been a very great inconvenience to himself. It would have been his duty to give up any objection on that score, but the other objection was of a different nature, and in his mind a very strong one, and be did hope that the council would now proceed to elect some gentleman to succeed him, for he was satisfied that they would obtain gentlemen much more able than himself, in whom every confidence might be re posed, let the circumstances with which they had to con tend be as difficult as they might, and who would have no other consideration to actuate them but the public good. (Hear, hear.) He therefore hoped the council would make such a selection as he had spoken of, and he was satisfied that the individual would do ample justice to them in the situation in which he (the Mayor) had been placed during the last twelve months. Mr. AIKIN was exceedingly glad to hear the observations which had fallen from the Mayor, and he must say that he rejoiced at it because he thought Mr. Gladstone would render them more service out of that chair than he could by possibility render if he remained the Mayor of Liver pool. (Cries of " No. no.") The proposition had been made to relieve the Council from a very painful position. (Hear, hear.) He was extremely sorry that this came so suddenly upon them ; he lamented that any gentleman's character should be injured in the slightest degree by an unjust charge ; he would be the last to lead himself to any trick which was to trip a man's character up ; and if it had been possible within the meaning of the act to ad journ for a short time, if they could go that day into an inquiry, he thought that before three o'clock some such report might be made as would enable the Council to proceed exactly as they would have done if no such charge had been heard of. (Hear, hear,) He thought they would have an excellent mayor in Mr. George Law rence, the chairman of the Finance Committee, because he had been zealous and earnest in the discharge of his duty. (Hear, hear, hear.) There was no man with whom he (Mr. Aikin) had differed more than Mr. George Lawrence, but he thought him first entitled to the chair. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") Next to him was Mr. Thomas Sands, and if this charge were found to be frivo lous, he would make the amende honorable to that gen tleman who had been so unjustly charged. (Hear, hear.) He said all this without any knowledge of the facts, or means of judging of them, but he would never allow a man's character to be taken away without inquiry. If Mr. Sands now allowed his name to be withdrawn, it wonld, under all the circumstances give an additional impetus to this on dit that might be injurious to him and to his house, and he and his friends would act more wise ly by saying, " Let us have the facts ascertained now.' (Hear, hear.) He was quite convinced that, under the circumstances, Mr. Sands had exercised a wise discretion in declining the office of Mayor. Mr. BIRKETT quite agreed in what Mr. Aikin had said, with one exception. Mr. likin had thrown out a hint that this charge might have arisen from an improper mo tive. Now he (Mr. Birkett) bad never heard of it until yesterday, and it had given him a great deal of pain, for a more painful charge could not have been brought. Whether it was true or not it was not for him to judge, but it was only fair towards an officer of the Corporation to say, that he was a person of high, honourable, and un impeachable character, (Hear, hear.) He thought it the more incumbent on him to make this statement, on account of the suggestion thrown out by Mr. Aikin. If it could be considered compatible,—legal he meant, he was ready to agree to an adjournment for two, three, or five days, or for a week, if necessary, but before he proceeded, he begged to ask the Town-clerk whether the Council could legally adjourn. The MAYOR.—The Town-clerk says the Council can adjourn. Mr. BIRKETT.—Then I move that the Council do now adjourn till next Wednesday. (Hear, hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman LAWRENCE...--I am most happy to sec ond that. I think it is a most cruel thing to take away the character of a gentleman in this way. The TOWN-CLERK said the 69th section of the Muni cipal Act—in some copies it was printed as the 68th— contained the regulations as to the meetings of council, and after stating that all questions must be decided by a majority of the whole number present—not being less than one-third—enacted that the first business transacted at the quarterly meeting in November should be the elec tion of Mayor. It was incidental to all meetings of asso ciated bodies to allow adjournments, and in doing so, to allow the discussions which then took place to go as part and parcel of the proceedings of the day on which they originally met; but there was another point which might have been an awkward one under the first act. In that act it was enacted that the Mayor shall continue in office for one year; but by an amendment, in the 4th section of sth and 6th Wm. IV., chap. 105, it was enacted that the Mayor shall continue in office one whole year, and until his successor shall have accepted the office of Mayor, and subscribed to the necessary declarations. Mr. H. HORNBY was anxious that Mr. Sands should have every opportunity of clearing himself; and certainly he would not be one to offer any opposition to an ad journment of the council, but he questioned whether the adjournment could or ought to take place, or whether they would be justified in doing so. Mr. Aim's! quite agreed with Mr. Hornby, that there was no sufficient ground for adjournment. Mr. Alderman EvANs said it was his unfortunate lot again to be on the oppo s it e s id e . H owever much he might regret a charge lying in abeyance, which might prove false, and probably would, he could not satisfy himself that the business of this great community ought to be obstructed by a n y suc h c i rcumstance. It was a misfortune, no doubt, but it was not one of such irrepa rable character that the council must redeem it at the expense of forming a very injurious precedent. (Hear , c ade in a b t y choeu an Mayor'snc oiicedof in hands.tah n e htar.) A committee of gentl emen m i g h t i nvestigate the corporation, a r t wp t o e a r r s a . tti ho H en duty u e n t dy w d a oe s fl a bt he charge t a ceo r l g uy e n placed made l, as In the Court of E xc h equer , Wednesday last, a rule ahe goes- nisi for a new tr ia l was gran t e d in th e cause Platt and official manner, to in ves ti ga t e th a t c h arge ; and others, v. Young and o th ers , t r i e d a t th e l a st assizes. tinned whether the council, without a new Mayor, was exactly in a position to do so. (Hear, hear.) ARRIVAL OF NINE AMERICAN INDIANS.—The packet Mr. NORTH said he was inclined to the same view of ship England, which reached Liverpool on Monday, from things, though for different reasons. His object was to New York, has brought to our shores an importation of obtain the vindication of Mr. Sands in the most perfect, an unusual kind,—nothing less than nine bona fi de Amet clear, and candid manner . If th at council, . by adjourn-, can Indians of the Ojibbewa trib e , i nc l u di ng th e c hi e f o f ing, could take up th e ques ti on , not with reference to the tribe, is and other persons of authority. Their object in visiting England to obtain an audience of h e r majes ty, Mr. Sands only—for he u n d ers t oo d i t was to b e ta k en as a general question—then he mi g ht b e muc h i n f avour o f to whom they are charged, as delegates from the tribe, an adjournment. He had two obje c ti ons t o th e adjourn with a mission, the purport of which is to seek assistance went. He thought, first, in an adjournment f or a wee k, of some kind, in consequence of the wars in which they have been engaged , with another more pow erful . tribe. any committee appointed could not give the necessary The chief, who is /5 . years of age, bears the singular name consideration to the general question. His second ob of.o.quewezance,.whilst another member of the embassy jection was, that such a committee would naturally act rejoices in the still more unpronounecable appellation . of with a sort of leaning to vindicate Mr. Sands, who viould, Puttonogattowabee.. They made a very short stay in Li would,in fact, be on his trial for the mayoralty. (Hear.) He verpool, having only stayed into refresh themselves at the as an earnest and faithful friend - of Mr. Sands, Angel Inn ; and they arrived Manchester on the same advise him against that course. He would advise them to have a fair and impartial committee of that council, who, day . (Monday), accompanied by an interpreter, nam e d with time and consideratio n , s h ou ld go i nto the whole Notinham, who is what is called of " th r e e -f our th s " ln subject, and, without bi as o f any ki n d , come to a decision dian blood, but who speaks English with facility, from a on the subject. (Hear.) Mr. Sands had done him the residence of some time in the United States. Since Mon honour to consult him on that most painful case. He day, the whole of the party, which comprises two females (Mr. North) had devoted some days of intense anxiety to and a child, have been lodged at the Mitre Inn, Manches it, and he concurred in the resolution which Mr. Sands ter, where every accommodation is afforded them ; but so had come to, in declining until a committee had been ap- small is the value they as yet atta c h t o E uro p ean ar t s an d pointed to inquire into th e mat t er , th e hi g h honour in- civilization, that they cannot be prev a il e d : on t o s l ee p i n tended to be conferred upon hi m . I n th at op i n i on, he, beds, but uniformly prefer the couch of skins which is in for one, still remained, but, of course, he was liable to be general use amongst this and other tribes. One of th e ladies, we should state, is ill, p ro b a bly f rom th e e ff ec t o f over-ruled. He would just add one wor d i n re f erence to what fell from Mr. Aikin—without intention, he knew, sea sickness on her voyage. During last week they visited Mr. Catlin's unique collection of American Indian curi and meant nothing. In his ze a l f or M r . S an d s, h e sa id it was barely possible that this ac cusa ti on — suc h as i t osities, at present in Manchester, and during the p resen t was—frivolous, indeed, as he (Mr. No r th) b e li eve d it— week they will form part of th a t i n t eres ti ng ex hibiti on, might be the result of a trick. Now they knew that it after which they will proceed to the metropolis came from Mr. Currie, than whom a more pure-minded man did not breathe. It was utterly impossible that he could be guilty of a trick, or anything approaching to a bias or leaning of any kind. It was utt er l y i mposs ib le to conceive of such a thing, and he thought those remarks due in justice to Mr. Corrie. (Hear.) Mr. AIKIN said he had no more notion of applying that word (trick) to Mr. Corrie than he had of flying. How the word got into his mouth he knew not. It did appear to him strange that—not at the eleventh hour, but at the eleventh hour and fi`ty-fifth minute, this should come out, and it flashed on his mind that it might by a trick. " I declare to God," s a id h e , " I t did not come f rom our side." (Laughter.) In justification of Mr. Corrie, he wished to be allowed to say that he was a man highly ho nourable, and in using that word he did not impute to him any trick 1, „bey hat: naa ,he knowledge of these charges up to the present moment ? Mr. Sands would have been placed in the chair, and then the present Mayor would have had to give him documents impugning his own honour. It was only right that they should adjourn for the first busi ness on the paper. . Mr. BUSHELL would vote for the adjournment, in order that the question might have consideration out of doors ; for although they were members of that council, they lived in a commercial community, the members of which were capable of investigating the charges • and if they could be satisfied that Mr. Sands w as gu iltless of any crime or fraud like that imputed to him, if they could come to that council satisfied that Mr. Sands bad done nothing meriting punishment at their hands, they could elect him Mayor of that council, and then proceed to appoint a commit tee to inquire as to this charge. After some further conversation, there were loud cries of " Vote, vote ! " and the question was about to be put, when Mr. SANDS rose and said, —Before I retire, which I intend doing before you go to the vote, I wish to express my deep sense of gratitude to the council for their con duct towards me. (Applause.) The votes were then taken, when there appeared—For the amendment, 42; against it, 18. For the adjournment.—Messrs. Shand, Shaw, Hough ton, jun., I. Holmes, Blackburn, Blundell, Edwards, North, H. Holmes, Tinne, Toulmin, Fawcett, Aspinall, Sothern, Royden, Birkett, Wood, Boutflower, Bushell, Lloyd, J. Hornby, G. H. Lawrence, Plumpton, Leigh, Glazebrook, Lace, Trotman, Harbord, Sheppard, Smith, Houghton, sen., J. Lawrence, Brancker, Turner, Freme, Crook, Nicol, Moon, Chilton, and the Mayor. Against it.—Messrs. Thornhill, Chalmer, Thompson, Preston, Aikin, H. Hornby, Stewart, G. Hornby, H. Lawrence, Kilshaw, Rigby, Jones, Parker, Barclay, Bulley, Griffith, Holt, and Evans. Absent.—Messrs. Hodgson, Sands, Rae, and J. Holmes. The council adjourned, at half-past three o'clock, till Tuesday (this day). DOINGS OF THE SWELL MOB.—On Tuesday a fashiona Mr. i3ustrELL said it seemed very strange to him that they first heard of this charge from Mr. Sands himself, and that they heard nothing of it from the Mayor. He, (Mr. Bushell,) taking not a legal view, but a common sense view of the subject, thought it very rational that the Mayor, having received a charge against a member of that body—be he high or low—should state the nature of the charge, and he could not but think it extraordinary that the Mayor had not thought fit to bring the matter before the council. He had received the charge in one of his communications, and he (Mr. Bushell) was anxious to know what it was. Let the council hear the letter to the Mayor, and let them see whether it contained charges of such serious importance as should induce them to de prive Mr. Sands of the honour intended for him. The MAYOR remarked that if Mr. Sands had been pro posed it would have been his duty to lay that document before the council ; then it would have been strictly in accordance with his duty, as it would have reference to the subject before the council. He had the document; and ivide t if the council called for it I was prepared with it Mr. Sandswasnotp;ropO;ed, the course for him would hve_been to have handed it over to his successor, and let the cloth for the clothes, hand upon the money, ar. iicoL said he seconded the i s difficulty had a s, short." Mr. Price sai the misoner. Mr. Rus went (apprehendir le must t cumstances) on the spur of the moment.. The council i COMMISSIONERS OF BIRKENHEAD. had been. taken very much by surprise,. and the town would be•much surprised at what had happened. They On Tuesday last a meeting of this body was held at the were led up to•yesterday, to believe that if Mr. Sands was 1 Town-hall, Birkenhead. proposed as• mayor he would be elected without opposition. In reply to a question from Mr. WM. JACKSON, as to Surely, a thing. of such moment—the election of mayor whether commissioners who had sold land to the township —the first office—the chief magistrate—might be consi. could legally retain their seats at the board, Mr. Mallaby, dered worthy of some consideration and some thought. the laweclerk, stated that they could, provided that they Whether the council had arrived at a point where thew abstained•from taking any part in the discussion of the could give it that consideration and thought he very much particular question. doubted. He thought a little longer time was necessary, Mr. Coxon, the road-surveyor, having tendered his apai t from all considerations as to the character of Mr. resignation, on the ground of ill health, Mr. Brine was Sands. The matter was only before them in the shape appointed to the office for three months. of his refusal to stand, but apart from that, there had Upon the report of the Finance Committee having been been no time for the council to come to a decision, and ! read, Mr. STANSFIELD moved that the improvement rate therefore, for these reasons, he hoped an adjournment for the ensuing year be reduced from 9d. to 6d. in the would take place. pound. Mr. LACE said a sort of insinuation had been thrown This gave rise to an animated discussion, in which se out that Mr. Sands was not prepared for his defence. It veral of the members took part; eventually the following would be gross injustice not to say that Mr. Sands imme- amendment, proposed by Mr. 'Wm. JACKSON, was carried diately, through the Mayor, received a copy of the letter, by a majority of one :—" That the subject be referred and the only reason of the Mayor in not bringing forward back to a committee, consisting of the chairman of every the letter was not a desire to put Mr. Sands in an irnpro. committee, to look into the state of the funds of the ferry, per position, but as he (Mr. Lace) understood, he detained and the neces sar y expen di ture o f the ensuing year, and to it until called for. see whether it would or would not be expedient to appro- Mr. H. LAWRENCE said, it occurred to him that what priate any portion of the profits to the reduction of the had been stated by Mr. Aikin was correct—that they improvement rate." should not be doing Mr. Sands any favour or kindness, The proceedings of the Health Committee, which con but they would be placing him in an unfavourable situa- tamed a recommendation to purchase 10,000 yards of land tion by the adjournment. He was not inclined to quarrel for slaughter-houses, were confirmed. with the Town-clerk's law—in fact, he concurred with The Woodside Ferry Committee stated, that the him entirely that until the election of Mayor nothing could amount received in the last month exceeded that of the take place—but he did not think that any adjournment of corresponding month of the past year, and that, as addi the election ought take place under the circumstances. tional packets would be wanted at Monks' Ferry, they Mr. North had spoken with considerable feeling, and wished for liberty to contract for another new boat. The he (Mr. Lawrence) fully concurred in every thing he had report was adopted. said. ERECTION OF A DOCK AT WALLASEY POOL. Mr. PARKER said he supposed the question before them Mr. Wm. JACKSON here rose and said,—There are two was as to the adjournment. He asked the gentleman who subjects, sir, which I wish particularly to bring before brought it forward, if, after hearing the Town-clerk's ex- You on this occasion—one of which has been already be planation, they would persevere? If they adjourned till 11 fore nearly every member of the board; and perhaps it is Saturday, they would be exactly in the same position, for the most important measure ever brought forward, so far the first thing they could do was to elect the Mayor, as regards Birkenhead. You are aware that our neigh- From that day till Saturday not a single committee would bours on the opposite side of the water, in the Council be in existence, and the whole business of the town would and in the Dock Committee, have, for several months be neglected. What would become of the Watch Com. past, been discussing the propriety of dock extension, and mittee ? (Laughter.) There was none. It was dissolved I certainly have been surprised that in all their discussions now. Gentlemen might laugh, but when they looked at they never alluded to the advantage of Wallasey Pool. the immense population of this town, there were very es- But however silent they may have been, I can assure you sential things to look to. He would willingly vote for the that we have not been idle—(hear, hear ;)—for you are all adjournment; he was willing that Mr. Sands should have pretty well aware, from what has passed in committee, every advantage; he would give Mr. Sands every oppor- that plans have been prepared, sections taken, borings tunity of clearing himself of the charges made against made, levels obtained, notices prepared, and everything him, but the Town-clerk told them that if they did not ready for your instructions this evening for our law-clerk elect the Mayor they would be exactly in the same posi- to go to parliament for the purpose of receiving powers to tion. The worthy Alderman (Mr. Nicol) wished them make the most capacious dock that ever was made in the to adjourn to consider who was to be the Mayor. Did he kingdom of Great Britain or Ireland. (Hear.) We have suppose that the 9th of November came upon them by obtained, as you are aware, the assent of the Admiralty to surprise—that they were not aware of the 9th of Novera. our enclosing the whole space from the bottom of the ber—that they had overlooked it, and that they did not Iree WoodsidehundredFerry an to d Sfoeartcyomacbree—s.an y a o r u ea ar o e f a n w o a t re le t s h s at th o a u n r know who was likely to be the Mayor? t: Mr. BARCLAY and Mr. AIKIN suggested the propriety plans have been submitted to them, with gates and a tidal of proceeding to the election of Mayor, and that this in- basin of 30 acres, or nearly three times the space of the quiry should take place afterwards. Prince's Dock, which, at all times of tide, will never have Mr. J. HORNBY said that it appeared to him that an less than 12 feet of water for vessels to float in ; and, by adjournment would be very injudicious. Before whom damming up at the narrowest point, we shall have dock was the investigation to be made ? It would be made space at Wallasey Pool to the extent of 120 acres. (Hear, either before the friends or the opponents of Mr. Sands hear.) This may take the public by surprise ; but for the mayoralty. In either case there would be some , would only say that though the matter was under our bias, and the investigation would not give that satisfaction consideration, prudence induced us to keep our own to the town generally as a fair and unbiassed opinion. counsel until such time as our plans were ripe, and we had Besides that, he did not think a couple of days sufficient. received the assent of the authorities. Such, gentlemen, There might be documents required from a distance, and is the subject upon which the committee have to report ; these could not be provided in so short a time. and they now come before you for the purpose of obtain- Mr. Nicol. had no idea, in seconding Mr. Birkett's ing the necessary sanction to proceed to Parliament. I motion, to give time for Mr. Sands's investigation. He may as well state, for the information of the members had merely the idea that it would give more time to con- generally, that the principle upon which we proceed is Sider of the Mayor's successor. If they were to adjourn this :—that we, as commissioners of Birkenhead, proceed for a month they could do nothing in investigating Mr. to obtain the necess ar y p owers to perform a necessary Sands's affairs. work in Wallasey Pool—that on its own merits we raise Mr. HUGH HORNDY had stated that he should not ob- the money—that, while the commissioners of Birkenhead ject to an adjournment, but on further reflection, and after will be the commissioners of the dock estate, the rate what had fallen from Mr. North and others, he was per- payers of the townships will not be taxed, directly or in fectly satisfied that it would be exceedingly injudicious for directly, for the undertaking. I may also state, that there the council to adopt that course ; one not only improper are parties prepared to meet the necessary expenses, pro.. as regarded the council, but exceedingly ungracious to vided we are defeated in parliament —a result which I Mr. Sands. Any investigation could not be received as cannot possibly anticipate —so that no reflection can be an official one, and they would still be placed in the situa- made on the commissioners that they were using the mo tion they now were in. ney of the township for this purpose. (Hear, hear.) It Mr. LLOYD thought the adjournment was necessary, is proposed that all the pecuniary advantages derived from even to Mr. Sands, and it was only what was done to every the dock shall be appropriated to the measure itself ; and member of the council. in order that they might consider if ever, from the sale of land or otherwise, any other re who was to be the successor. He agreed with the obser- venue from the dock shall arise, it is proposed that that vation, that next year the town of Liverpool would have also shall go in the reduction of the cost, and in the re subjects before it that would require the council to take duction of the cost, first of all, on the dock rates ; and I seriously into consideration which way to fill the office of hope that the amount received in this manner will be Chief Magistrate—not only from what was going on in sufficient to defray the cost of the construction of the the borough, but from matters out of the borough. The whole. (Hear, hear.) Many say we are very sanguine. council and the town having been taken by surprise, they I own we may appear so • but, I say, judge us by the past ; would be anxious to know why Mr. Sands had not been for I may safely state, that ' there is no measure which we elected. It was only just to Mr. Sands that they should ever brought before the public that did not exceed the not go headlong to elect a Mayor, believing as they did, most sanguine expectations of its promoters. And if I, that a few minutes to twelve o'clock they were to put Mr. for one, am sanguine, allow me to observe, that I base my Sands into the chair. What would have been the course opinion on the report of Mr. Hartley. " 'f t' - d not lock and d nr ev t ne stalu ournn r edvi that, cyaaon the Dock Committ ee o f Liverpool; andsr twioi tnh also in no othersaying, on t the o opinions hat u, be but t f at m yh men oe parliament, t ce e m .'lo to a t y e w: I have no hesita e tion favour of docks being made at Wallasey Pool. If we were going to make docks for the benefit of any landown er, or for any individual benefit, notwithstanding any general benefit the works might afford, we might be op posed ; but we go that money may be raised for the con strustion, that any money which shall go in the cost of construction shall be repaid, and that the revenue derived shall be applied towards the same, until such time as, with water space greater than that at Liverpool, we shall be open to the whole world free of charge. (Hear, hear.) I consider this subject as deeply interesting to the port o f Liverpool, and without that port we , as a branch, would go to nothing. (" Hear, hear," from Mr. Mallaby.) I consider that we are conferring a boon on the merchants of Liverpool, greater than ever was conferred upon them. A short time ago, an alderman of the borough said to me, " I perceive you have got your pigmy committees." This he wh n e n t h t e h (l e u i n e s s t u i o r a n n o c f e ware o ffi c h e s o w u s e e r e rents a w n a c b w e a i s ng at ra th is e ed ti , m a e nd w iug their rates from fifteen to twenty-five per cent. ; and it struck me forcibly then that the fable was about to be meansveri fie d o , f a n a d r o t u ha si g t h t e h o u n s e o o f f Liverpool. Birkenhead (Hear,would hear.)th Many persons allege that our docks here will not be used. It is a fallacy, and upon this ground: —seven-tenths of the produce received at Liverpool goes into the interior, and about five-sevenths by water conveyance to the interior. It can make no earthly difference to the forwarders of these goods whether they send them from the east or west side of the Mersey; and if we can introduce competition among the wharfingers, on each side of the pool, for we are going only to make such charges in the docks as will be reasonable for entering them, that comp e titi on among the wharfingers will induce them to avail themselves of the lighter charges. There is cotton, for instance. When the raw material is at a shilling, and when it is brought down to fourpence, the expenses are now the same. The per centage on a bag of cotton is enormously heavy : so that it behoves us to exert ourselves to carry this measure, and to prove to the world that there is a means of giving accommodation to them at a cheaper rate than any port in the world can do ; and this we shall succeed in accom plishing by proceeding with this important work. (Hear, hear.) I may also observe, that in the higher quarters the project has met with unqualified approbation, and that they consider it highly beneficial, not only because it will afford increased dock space, but also because it will, in all probability, tend to remove that great impedi ment to the working of the upper dock, Pluckington bank. It is the opinion of many that it will cause the removal of that obstruction ; but, under any circum stances, it appears to me to be fraught with good. It may affect individual interests in Liverpool, but, as a public body, we can hare nothing to do with those inte rests. It is our duty to legislate for the many, without - egard to the few—to serve the masses rather than the smaller number ; and in a few years I have no doubt we shall show that, instead of injuring the property of the corporation, we have been its benefactors, by giving the public that accommodation which the other side cannot give, except at a most enormous cost. In the event of the bill being carried, there are certain parties ready to come down with money to commence the undertaking : so that you are not proceeding on the supposition that you will have no support. You will have the support of all the outports. You will have the support of the Ad miralty in Parliament. You will have the support of parties to carry on the competition in Parliament to any amount ; and you will have the money to construct the works. (Hear, hear.) lam able to prove, from statis tical tables, that you will derive a revenue from this un dertaking greater than it is possible now to mention, and that the cost of all we contemplate is only £300,000. Mr. Jackson concluded by proposing that the law-clerk have power to give the necessary notices in the next Ga zette, and to take the necessary steps to obtain an act of parliament. Mr. Pim seconded the motion. blysattired man named John Fry, was brought UPZ& Mr. WOOD expressed his belief that the corporation of Police-court. John Lythall, from Carnarvon, stated that Liverpool would not have sold the land at so cheap a rate being a little intoxicated he was proceeding up Church- had they known the intention of the commissioners. At street, in order to reach Bold-street, and asked the pri- the same time be thought that the commisioners ought to soner and two others his road. The prisoner took old of make the dock at Wallasey rather than the corporation ; his arm and said he would show him the place. They and he was glad it was going to be erected, for he was an walked for a long time up and down the street, and at advocate for the extension of dock room. last went into Mr. Wrigglesworth's public-house, in Mr. BENTHAM read the following extr ac t on th e su b- Brownlow-hill. A joiner, who s a id be k new th e fellows jest from an anonymous letter in the Liverpool Times : to be part of the swell mob, immediately gave information "As mercantile men, we most heartily wish, with Mr. to one of the police, who went into the public-house G. H. Lawrence, success to the Cheshire Docks, by who before any attempt was made to get any of Mr. Lythall's ever made. Every increased facility to trade increases money. The prisoner made bis escape, when he saw the that trade, and in no place are those facilities more officer coming, through the lobby at the back, lying on wanted than in this port. The Cheshire men have great which were afterwards found a number of flash notes. advantages to start with. Nature has done wonders for Mr. Rushton did not think the case sufficiently strong them. As Telford said, when he looked down from Bid_ against the prisoner, and was about to discharge him, when ston on Wallasey Pool at high wat er ' Th ey h ave b u i lt Mr. Edward Price, tailor, of Hanover-street, said he h a d Liverpool on the wrong side.' Th e i r d oc k s are half made a charge against the prisoner. He said that a few days already, and for £500,000 they can give the same area of ago two men, the prisoner being one, came into his place dock surface as all the Liverpool docks. They have no and asked him if be could make two suits of clothes be- warehouse interest to contend with, by introducing the fore Saturday. He replied that he could not, as he had London dock system, may lower the insurance to the me some mourning to finish. They then said they would give tropolitan rates." him till Tuesday, if he could complete the order by that The motion was unanimously adopted. The question time. He agreed to do so, and one of the party (not the of going to Parliament to confirm the purchase of the prisoner) asked him if he could cha nge a £s no t e . H e M on k' s F erry was referred to a committee : and a me said he could, and brought five sovereigns, receiving in morial proposed by Mr. W. Jackson, on the subject of his hand at the time he handed over the sovereigns a note. Chester and Holyhead line of railway, was ordered to be The fellow asked then if he could not give him two half presented to the admiralty by Lord Robert Grosvenor. sovereigns for one of the sovereigns? He said he could The commissioners adjourned at a quarter after nine not. The man then pretended the c h ange wou ld b e of no o ' clock. crack p Montezuma i , use, and asked the note back a ga i n . H e opened his fin gers and pretended to put th e fi ve sovere i gns into his (witness's) hand. 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