The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-12-12 00:00:00

tom it ion of CORRESPONDENTS OASTLER.—We are compel trust Fill th .rcury finds gth wear- :y and his body to the [le Mercury for this timely 1 Having thus provided for the peace of the coun- pile and venality. It will en- Mr. Oastler to renewed exer- )t that persecuting he doors of hi .oads, of harbours, &c., the en- rT_TBLISIT —We ar cl also to withdraw couragement of fisheries, and of emigration upon an , üblications extensive scale, Upon the propriety of many of these recommendations doubts may readily he en- minion in the British empire. tailbarb. tertained. The consideration of the , . owever, is ESDA 31O11NING, DEC. 12, 1843 In article a ppears in this month's number of o which we beg to request the Lion of our read Of the hundreds of va- for tranquil ng Ireland, which are we have met with ies of the subject are so , scribed for; and, be- ce of the writer's views, we clmed rom an impression that rth the coming policy of Sir Robert ent toy is that country So far as tion may indeed be said to exist, for awhile—a power less wreck upon the waters,—hut its fate is doomed, at least until vitality be restored, by the same profli gate expenditure of blood, which reared and ce mented its battlements, to be the barrier of the liberties of the world against the encroachments of the dark apostacy of Rome. Such opinions such steady Protestantism of feeling —may be sneered at by modern liberalism Their indulgence and permanence may he destruc tive of the hope of " Catholic unity," in the eyes of Tractarianism. They may bring down upon us the enlightened contempt of " Young England." But they are the opinions and feelings, nevertheless, of three-fourths of the thinking and Protestant people of OLD ENGLAND, who have not yet learned the wisdom of purchasing, at the sacrifice of those prin ciples for which their fathers fought and died, on the field and at the stake, the poor privilege of cry ing " peace—when there is no peace" ! On principle, then, we object to the endowment of Popery, in this land or in Ireland—in any portion, indeed, of her Majesty's dominions. But expediency, we are told is to guide us upon this question. We are to pay a species of " black mail" to Rome, to purchase the cessation of the hostile attempts, now making against the constitution and the entireness of the empire, by the priesthood of Ireland. Who are to be the guarantees of this compact being kept, were it entered into ? What can assure us that the priesthood would cease to employ their spiritual and temporal influence over the people for the downfal of our Protestant institutions ? experience of the fruits of past concessions warrant such expecta- priesthood, in our colonies, diminished one jot their insolent attempts at domination—their restless we regret that the emergent, law only can it be decided. nt and some degree of con ecent dinner given to whom are unfit, though for opposite reasons, to be 'at once that it will not be submitted to. If made 'd Kith the liberty vehich is the birthright of a Briton. a charge upon the propertyof Protesta n t l an d owners a provinces thu s t re at e d w ith t roo p s . If 30 , 000 not sufficient, send 60,000 ; and punish every I in Ireland, we say it is dishonest, and cannot con ...,Lier, contained in th, last hamlet and village where the smallest outrage occurs by sistently be advocated by men who declaim against spool Mercury. In the mean quar'ering a strong detachment of horse and foot on its our contempo rar y f or thi s ebulli- inhabitants. Five years ago the Sclavonian districts of i the charge upon such property, belonging to Pro .inst an ill-used man. Liberalism Hungary were in a much more troubled state than Mun- testants, for the support of a Protestant church. .g liberation of Mr. Oastler—fears ster and Connaught are now. The Austrian government, Putting out of view, too, all the difficulties of detail nest appeals to the Operative Clas- by adopting the process which we now describe, brought id betray and trample upon ; and in an organ, willing to do things round in th ree mon th s . W e see no reason why w hi c h suggest themselves, where is the assurance heap u pon the object of its Ear a the English governm en t s h ou ld no t accomp li s h i ts o bj ect that the gift itself will not be turned against the 3. . • 1 falsehood, sufficient to keep him m as , shor , t . a . space of time, and with ev e n le ss sacr ifice permanence of British connection, and the British constitution in Ireland ? The very endowments d , the writer w ou ld t h en i ntro d uce measures for the which we fur n i s h are —l et i t b e b orne i n mind—to amelioration o f th e soc i a l con di t i on of the people— be s%ielded by an a li en power —b y R ome herself,— the formati on o f ra il who will never tolerate, on th e part o f h er sp i r i tua l subjects, any course which has not for its objects, above all other objects, the spread of her own do- The tie which binds the priesthood of Ireland to sere. The mai n f ea t ures of their flocks—th e ti e o f d epen d ence — an d wh i ch, __ —... the policy rec ommen d e d h ave our f u l l approval ; whilst it reduce s th em t o t h e pos i t i on o f b eggars, and we are confid en t mus t h ave t h at o f every man I confers upon th em a sp i r i tua l power, wh i ch would who dare look our diffi cu l ty with regard to Ireland not belong to th em as mem b ers o f an en d owed fearlessly in the fac e . Th e su b sequent measures of church, is not one w h ose va l ue i s under esti mated by the ast u t e p o li t i c i ans o f t h e V at i can, amelioration can be di scusse d hereafter. or by the hierarchy in Ireland. However we may endow the priesth oo d, we have no security th a t th ey A proposition h as recent l y b een mooted, i n in fluential quarter s , an d w ill no d ou b t b e b rought at will abate one j o t th e i r exact i ons f rom the im poveriE bed people o f I re l an d, or consent to re l ax, i n an early period b e f ore t h e not i ce o f P arl i ament, the most trifli ng d egree , t h e sp i r i tua l tyranny in upon which we feel b oun d to express our v i ews clearly and distinctly, th e more espec i a ll y b ecause which they now h o ld t h at peop l e. Th e m i n d of Ire that proposition has met with a large degree of land is the weapon which they wield, and must wield, unles s th ey t h row off the allegianc e o f R ome , countenance from some of our C onservat i ve con for the att a i nmen t o f t h e ulter i or purposes of that temporariep, and a porti on o f th e C onservat i ve b ody in the legislature and throughout the country. we power ; and Ireland chained down in abjetelavery o allude to the p ro p ose d payment o f t h e Roman Ca- of soul—lashed now t o f renzy, an d now worked up to enthusiasm by f an t ast i c p i ctures of greatness tholic clergy in I re l an d— an d i n G reat B r i tain, as awaiting her—is a n ' i ns t rument f ar more potent i n well, we presu me —f rom t h e f un d s to b e furnished the hands of R o is e,'lian Ireland tranquil, happy, by the state, or, more proper l y, t h e people of the United Kingdom. and submissive to , e constitution of the British Upon every g r oun d-- o f j ust i ce, o f expediency, empire. Still, it will be a s k e d, w h y not ma k e t hi s e ff ort to and of principl e — we must protest aga i nst such a weaken the pote nc y o f suc h a weapon i n t h e h an d s o f measure as the endowm en t by a P rotestant peop l e, in this country or i n I re l an d, o f a c h urc h which ac- Rome ? Our answer i s, — we m i g h t consent, even to so vast a sacr ifi ce o f cons i stency an d character, knowledges a s it s supreme h ea d a f ore i gn potentate —a church which we b e li eve to b e id o l atrous and on the part o f th e B r i t i s h G overnment, an d t h e British peopl e , cou ld i ts success f u l result b e demon schismatic, and t o en t er t a i n v i ews h ost i le to the in tegrity of the e m pi re , an d t h e secur i ty of those Pro- strated. But we ma i nta i n t h at i t i s not i n t hi s testant institution s w hi c h are we dd e d to t h e hearts direction that our e ff orts s h ou ld b e made. Advan of the majority o f th e B r i t i s h peop l e. S uch a church tageous, indeed, it wou ld un d ou b te dl y b e, if we we are content to tol era t e; an d i ts mem b ers we have could raise the st an di ng , t h e mora l e, an d t h e acquire ments of the priesth oo d o f I re l an d ; b ut equa ll y so already admitted t o a f u ll s h are o f t h e pr i vileges which we enjoy a s B r iti s h su bj ects. B ut we can go would it be if we cou ld ra i se t h e con di tion and no further. PRINCIPLE—aIas, ho w rea dil y i s t hi s character of th e p eop l e o f I re l an d ; an d neither of . best guide overlook e d i n th ese d ays o f expediency ! these objects, we f ear , are to b e o b ta i ne d b y subsi dising Rome. Such a measure would on l y h e —will allow us t o go no f urt h er. W e can no more t ano clasp to the nati ona l b reast an a li en c h urch, with its they step in that f a t a l course o f concess i on, by which the Protestant i n t erests o f I re l an d h ave already been anti-national hierarchy, an d it s R om i s h h ea d , t h an we can submit o ur lib ert i es to t h e k eep i ng of a fearfully weak ene d anot h er step towards the triumph of Ro me , or a c i v il convuls i on, which must Popish sovereign. Th e gen i us o f t h e B r i t i sh con stitution is essentially P ro t es t ant ; an d w h en it decimate the I r i s h p eop l e. ceases to be so—as it wou ld d o, s h ou ld i t ever de- One consumm a ti on , i n d ee d , m i g h t b e the result of a state pro v i s i on b e i ng ma d e f or the clergy of the scend to pay open t r ib u t e to P opery — t h at constitu- Church of Rome, which would not be without its ad vantages. It might enable a certain portion of the clergy of the Church of England, by whose party organs it is chiefly advocated, to fall back into the position, which is evidently to be their ultimate one, and save us the scandal of seeing men, in heart, members of the former, submitting to receive the wages of the latter. The transition would, un doubtedly, he more easy, and involve less of sacri fice, from a Protestant establishment to the bosom of a state-endowed Popish church, than from a Pro testant establishment to a church, whose ministers must stoop to practices distasteful and repugnant to the minds of educated men. Nay the measure proposed might even bring about that " Catholic Union" so much sighed for in the cloisters of Oxford, and in too many of the pulpits of English divines. We cannot, however, contemplate the question in such a light without regret and shame; and gladly leave it without more than this passing remark. The report of the committee of the Council, ap pointed to investigate the charge against Mr. Sands, has thrown just about as much light upon the case, submitted to its judgement, as we anticipated, at the time of its appointment. It has declared that Mr. Sands has acted " erroneously;" but that no moral guilt attaches to himself, or to the firm to which he belongs. We knew this before. We knew that dishonesty was far from the character of the present Mayor of Liverpool ; and we knew that he had acted " erroneously" in the description of the whole of his packages as trusses and boxes. Where there is an indefinite limit between two descriptions of packages, which even a rerP:- ceiver of town-dues cannot point out, a shipper of such packages must err, on one side or the other, in his interpretation of the term by which each is. known ; and the extent of his error will be precisely regulated by the interpretation which his judges chuse to place upon those indefi nite and apparently indefinable terms. Mr.. Sands, in his capacity as a forwarding agent, has, perhaps, by entering all his packages as boxes and trusses, damaged the town's revenue; by the opposite course he would have damaged the owners of the merchan dise which he forwarded. No one, unfortunately, could inform him where to strike into that middle course, in which we are told is safety. There is one feature in the case, however, which, we , think, had the committee bestowed somewhat more attention upon it, ought to have exonerated Mr. Sands from the charge of . having acted even " erroneously." Mr. Sands had, so far hack as in 1834, distinctly and directly raised the question, as to the interpretation to be put upon the words "cases," &r by disr^ 'egarding, and intimating his disregard of, the intimation, conveyed to him by the receiver, that he was offending, in the course which he pursued. By so doing, Mr. Sands virtually ap pealed to the only tribunal which could, or which can now, settle the question,—viz., a court of law. If Mr. Sands is wrong now, he was wrong then, and ought to have been set right. It may be true, or it may not—and it is matter of opinion after all—that, as was urged by Mr. North, " every man carried about in his own breast a perfect knowledge of the definitions" —truss, bale, &c. But even that is scarcely sufficient. Mr. Sands, probably, or rather his clerks, would have found no difficulty in saying of any package, in their hands—" this is a truss ; this is a bale, and this is a box." But Mr. Sands had a right to say—" tell me what the law defines these to be ; do not leave me to pit my judgement —my honesty—against the judgment and the honesty of other merchants. Let us know what we are doing, and place us upon an equal footing 1" And such, in effect, he did say ; and that appeal, made eight years ago, should, in justice to him, to the commerce of the port, and to the burgess estate of Liverpool, have been heard and replied to. We have little hope that the reference of the ques tion, now, to the Finance Committee can lead to its satisfactory settlement. The Finance Committee may lay down its reading of the matter ; the law may lay down another. And again we repeat—and has arisen—by the Dlic y has hitherto displayed itself—particu- at in I article 1 of the vast armed force at almost be viewed as ctual carrying out of At all events, hat they are wisely directed tory to an emer 1 the state, in self-defence, e only sure step to preserve the peace of I liberties of her Protestant measures of whole- nd, to our judgment, con- sures proposed by both n of Ireland, the writer n of his own views upon fallen, suc❑ as I It may be that long 3 much in the spirit of I especially since th Ireland is the frees saes which are corn ecked, unrebuked, prow enues to wealth and pros. nto England. There are Nhole of the I .cesupon us the un- h has proved the ) the giver and the i,ancl only two, of effecting mss the constitution o back a littl by slov and abidt sure d€ there. If you possess and p ro fit b y ythe ler restrictions tand the value of it yield to the I the agitators at once el Church, enlarg peer and abstract plan increase the num- ;e of C 'ommons to 175 s with the presence in Repeaters, seems a hard ) move it at all when your .eat deal more than extensive than these the id all .r. ui t of peace is 1 picture of the condition 1 by the adoption le writer goes on to traw if i ncy, foreseen as possi- trenzy into e that in boasting ol 1 has deceived 'be cor Irish manners wl . ll be reii o all the world. In either d modi govern- se in the world of Tnment which make achinery ig out of it is to keep arate interest. o them, on the sea and on atween London and Dub gular as between London ht just as reasonably in these at of Scotland as a lord-lieute- steps at once to pro snd stop the mouths of bad men st take assail both. You must et throughout the three , at least I Protestant The fact that n now less that 3000 troops, provinces absorb little less' ou have no danger to appre- would she* small .dis- encouragement to loyalty At the same time take , veers which you assume ly as the circumstanc Let no at of his religion tion exposes them to the .ved of the means otexe; to this view, suspend or revoke peace throughout the disturbed tribunals there be courts-mar _ s the officers of the army Lt the outset that you art i at all hazarA s. Shew no ank may be. itorous purpose And seeing t and ferocious a tation there ? Again —NO ! our colonies such a measure has been a failure; and such it must be in Ireland, so long as popery in that land ackowledges a foreign power, and refuses to lay down, in submission, its longings for supremacy throughout the world and all experi ever land popery e )remacy, t And this we know—history nce tell us—can never be. In what- ts, in anything less than su- is but a broken link in the chain, with which it is sought to fette•: the liberties of mankind; and the closing of that link is, and must be, an object of ceaseless contem . plation Approach the question nearer. View it practi cally. You propose to bind down to obedience to the laws the Romish priesthood in Ireland by the division amongst them of, say, five hundred thou sand pounds per annum. Your object is a good one—the leace of _ . the price to he paid for its realization. But how do you work out that object ? The mere pecuniary gift, unattended by stringent provisions, to regulate the amount of benefit to he received in return, will ef fect nothing. Attended by such provisions —by conditions of good behaviour—the Romish church will reject your offers, however large, or accept them only to betray their conditions. The state, although it may pay, can have no permanent control over a church which refuses its right to appoint, or to re gulate, the conduct of its clergy. The utmost power, therefore, over the priesthood of Ireland to be ob tained by the concession you propose—more than that which is within the reach of direct legislation to obtain—would be the power of withholding the stipends from those who are found engaged in agi tation, or directing the authority of the spiritual office to purposes of hostility to the constitution. Is so slender a tie, we ask, worth purchasing at a sacrifice of money and of principle so large ? Another proposed plan is the purchase of glebes, to be attached to the Roman Catholic chapels in country districts, by which it is contended that the priestbod, as a body, will be raised to a more respectable and independent position amongst their flocks; and having thus a stake in the prosperity of the land, may be induced to consult the per manent interests of their country, its agriculture and commerce, instead of being driven to throw themselves into the whirl of agitation for the main - heir influence, and, indeed, for their tenant We grant that a benefit ght result from such erne, if it could be carried out with- id honesty riment t 3ritain, we THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD eccentric politician, Mr. W. S. O'Brien, had its utterer been a man less deeply dyed in falsehood and treachery than Daniel O'Connell : " It had been suggested to him, that if he consented to cease his agitation for the repeal, the prosecutions would be given up, or, if the trial went on, and a verdict was had, that the Crown would not press for punishment— that offer had been made to him." As it is, what are we think of such an assertion ? If it is one of the numerous inventions of this " bold bad man," the Protestant people of England are surely entitled to the proof of its falsehood. If it is a truth, then, what are we to think of a government which could commit the folly of entrusting its repu tation to the keeping of such a man, and, above all, could harbour the thought of degradation so utter— of TREASON so base—as would be the compro mising with arraigned traitors against the constitu tion of Great Britain ? Since the above was written, the Morning Herald, which is generally received as the organ of govern ment, has declared, emphatically, that " there is not the slightest shadow of a foundation for the state ment made by O'Connell ;" and further assures its readers— " That statement is utterly false—false in every particu lar. We KNOW it to be false, and we publicly pr-)claim it to he false, if it be meant to convey an impression, as we presume it was, that any suggestion offering any sort of compromise, or, (to preclude the possibility of miscon ception,) that any kind of suggestion has been made to Mr. O'Connell in reference to the pending prosecutions, or to the Repeal agitation, by any party who could even pretend to have the requisite authority for making it." We long to hear the reply of O'Connell to this point-blank denial. THE NATIONAL SCHOOLS.-011 Sunday two sermons were preached in Saint Augustine's Church, Shaw-street, by the Rev. John Jones, and the Rev. Hugh Al 'Neile, in behalf of the schools in immediate connexion with this Church.—These two learned divines, in the course of their Sermons, which were attentively listened to by very full congregations, clearly pointed out the great and pa ramount importance of the blessings and advantages of early scriptural education. These schools, under their zealous and excellent pastor the Rev. Dr. Tattershall, are in a state of great efficiency; upwards of four hundred children of the poor receiving daily, in addition to all useful secular instruction, the elementary principles of gospel truth. The collections amounted to upwards of £BO. LAW-SUIT BETWEEN PRESCOT AND WHISTON. The past week has been an important one to the in habitants of Prescot and the adjoining township of Whis ton. The subject of controversy was the boundary of the two townships. It appears that Whiston has on several occasions laid claim to a piece of land which the township of Prescot is in possession. The disputed lands are the demesne lands of the lord of the manor, and Prescot hall, and the matter has been left to the decision of the Tithe Commissioners and Mr. Mathew, the assistant commissioner, sat in the Town-hall, Prescot, hearing counsel on both sides for four days. The question arose on the question of which township was bound to relieve a pauper. Mr. BRANDT opened the case on Wednesday, on the part of Whiston, by stating, that the principal in quiry was whether these lands were in Prescot or Whis ton. He stated, that so far back as the reign of Henry the Eighth, the watercourse, which they contended was their boundary, was in existence. He put in a document of the 14th Henry VIII., which had been found in the possession of the Whiston authorities, and which he con tended pointed to what they consider their boundary. He also produced three land tax papers of the date of 1692, where these lands were assessed to Whiston ; he said that the constable of a township was always c to the district for which he was appointed; that the con stables of Whiston had acted on that estate, and that the county coroner had taken inquests there. He also pro duced two or three cases and opinions in which the Pres cot authorities, he contended, had stated that the lands in dispute were in Whiston. The above were all the docu mentary evidence which was put in on the part of Whis ton, with the exception of two maps of recent date. They relied much upon the tithes of Prescot Hall estate having been collected with the tithes of Whiston, although he a lowed that it had been immemorially rated to Pres cot in all rates. In sup; ort of his case Mr. Brandt called several witnesses, and closed his case on Thursday night. Mr. JAMES, on Friday, opened the case on the part of Prescot. He contended that the document of the reign of Henry VIII., brought forward by Mr. Brandt, was useless for the purpose of establishing a case in favor of the people of Whiston ; because, in the first place, the present watercourse did not answer the description con tained in it ; and, secondly, if it had been ever so definite, its being unsupported by any evidence strewing that Whiston ever had possession of the disputed lands under it, and does away with any effect that it might otherwise be supposed to have ; he should produce documents which would prove beyond doubt that this estate had always been treated as part of Prescot ; he would also produce living witnesses, whose testimony would go at least as far as his opponents ; and would shew that, whatever the Whis ton people might have thought, the Prescot people had never any idea of any other boundary, save that contended for by them. Mr. JAMES then put in a map made in 1750, where no trace of the Whiston water-course was visible : he put in a lease, dated 1612, of Prescot Hall and lands and certain rights to Thomas Malbon, from the lords of th -f ~.., manor o, ..., Prescot; some of these rights were to be exercised sub- COMMITTAL OF THE SUPPOSED AUTHOR OF THE ject to the interposition of the four men of the Manor LATE INCENDIARY FIRES IN NORTH WALES.—II will be Court of Prescot. The court roll of Prescot for 1614, years after the granting of the lease, was put in, remembered, that on the occasion of a recent incendiary t wo fire which occurred in North Wales, a somewhat ingeni- sh that Thomas Malbon, the tenant of Prescot ously devised charge was laid before the magistrates of Hawinga was presented as holding the lands under the lords Manchester, by a man named Hardman, implicating a of the manor, and that lie was fined by the Manor Court. youth of the name of Brown as the perpetrator of the Other rolls were pat: in, shewing that the constables of crime. The statement of Brown, as to his absence from the township were under the direction of the four men, the scene of destruction at the time, having since been and that these constables received rates from the tenant satisfactorily established, Hardman was further examined, of Prescot Hall; that the highway up to the hall was re and - a cornmunicatielo was made to the authorities in paired by the surveyors of the highways by the directions Wales, suggesting than inquiries should be made whether of the four men, and that a certain sum, which appeared such an individual as Hardman himself had been seen by the rolls to be due from Thomas Malbon to the recently in that locality. The result was the discovery of constables of the town, was to go in part payment of the evidence that he had been so seen, immediately before the expenses of such repair. Mr. James put in other court breaking out of the fire ; and upon his being handed over rolls, shewing that the tenants of Prescot Hall, for two to the police of St. Asaph, and the evidence of his identity hundred years back, had been fined by the Manor Court brought forward before the magistrate there, he has been for disobeying it by putting up gates on the disputed committed to gaol to await his trial for the offence at the land, and for other encroachments ; and that such tenants next assizes. had afterwards obeyed the court : the roll s a l so s h ewe d STRIKE OF THE PITM EN IN THE C OUNTY OF Dun- that the tena n t s o f P rescot Hall had been presented, when HAM—A serious dispute has lately taken place between they had acted contrary to the customs of the manor. the pitmen of the Thorneley colliery, (the property of Sir He produced an authenticated perambulation, dated 1758, William Chaytor, Mr. Gully, and others.) and their em- taken by the authorities of Prescot, wherein these lands players, with respect to the interpretation to be put upon were particularly described, and a survey, dated three the bond under which the former are engaged, and the years afterwards, wherein they were also comprised. He alleged non-fulfilment of its conditions by the latter, oroduced constable-rates, church -rates, highway-rates, Under a plea that they were defrauded of their fair wages land-tax assessments, from 1730, shewing that these by the use of a weighing machine on the steelyard princi- lands had always been rated to Prescot. He produced pie, instead of a fair balance, together with some minor the certificate of the redemption of the land-tax in 1802, grievances, the pitmen struck work, and have been brou g ht where these lands were redeemed as part of the township up before the magistrates, at the justice-room, in the city of Prescot. He produced bills, one hundred years old, of Durham, for recovery of the penalties claimed to be due which the overseers of Prescot had paid for the repair of according to the tenor of their indentures. After a stormy the highway on the disputed ground. He produced the hearing of the case on Thursday last, at which, on both court roll books, from which it appeared that the tenants sides, symptoms of a disposition to arrange matters were of Prescot Hall had attended the court of Prescot, or manifested, the further hearing of the case was postponed paid their essoign money, quite as regular as the in until Friday. The men, however, appear to have been in habitants of any other part of the town. bad hands, their advocate, Mr. Roberts, evincing a desire Such was part of the documentary evidence which Mr. to protract the dispute; and at the adjourned sitting on James produced, in support of which he called numerous Friday no agreement had been come to up to the hour at witnesses to prove that they had always heard that the which our last advices reached. Meer Stone was the boundary, and that Prescot Hall was in THE WHIG M INISTRY .—Th e w hi g newspapers assume Prescot. He call e d severa l w h o proved that the manor that Lord M e lb ourne an d hi s colleagues lost office because coroners had regularly sat a t i nquests on t h e d i sputed laud ; that pa upe rs ga i n i ng t h e i r settlements on Prescot they proposed a fi xe d d uty on corn, and they forget (or rather they determi ne no t t o remem b er ) that they (the Hall estate had been r egu l ar l y re li eve d and always treated Whigs) were d r i ven f rom o ffi ce b ecause they had lost the as belonging to P resco t. H e ca ll e d a b out a dozen re confidence of the n a ti on ; and that it was justly lo s t, th e spectable witnesses, who p rove d not on l y that they consi dered they had j ur i s di ct i on on the d i sputed estate as con time when they b roug ht f orwar d t h e i r bill for a f i xed duty was a striking insta nce . It would, therefore, b e more stables, but who h a d exerc i se d their authority there, and candid, in these whig advocates, to ascribe the downf a ll o f some of whom prod uce d warrants wh i ch they had executed their patrons to other causes :—first, to their coaliti on w i t h at Prescot Hall, alth oug h t h ese constables were appointed Mr. O'Connell—a most profligate act—and next to the by the Manor Court. He called old witnesses, who had degradation to which th ey su b m i tte d to preserve his been born on P resco t H a ll estate, and had never heard, patronage; and that to such an ex t ent, as to o b ta i n for until the present di s p u t e arose, t h at Prescot Hall was in themselves, even amon gs t th e i r f r i en d s, t h e name of the Whiston : that th e y h a d p l aye d round the Meer Stone squeezable administrati on , an d, fi na ll y, to t h e t i me w h en, when children (th e b oun d ary contended for by Prescot); and to the reason w hy, th ey a d vocate d a fi xe d d uty of Bs. and had always h ear d th e i r parents and the old inhabi tants say that such Meer Stone was the bo un d ary b etween These were the cau ses o f th e i r d own f a ll , b ut t h ese wh i g advocate s fi n d t h at if t h ey h a d the candour to make such Prescot and Whi s t on . H e ca l led witnesses who stated an admission, th e i r occupat i on wou ld b e gone. Hence that they had pl aye d a b out the d i tch contended for by these causes are k e pt ou t o f s i g h t, an d the i r downfall is Whiston as th e i r b oun d ary w h en they were children, but ascribed to the bare f ac t o f h av i ng propose d a fi xe d d uty never heard it called a b oun d ary; never considered it a of Bs. per qua r t er i n p l ace o f t h e s li d i ng scale; whereas, brook, and th a t th ere was no runn i ng water in this ditch that proposition was cons id ere d b y t h e pu b l i c, not on its 40 years ago. intrinsic merit s , b u t on l y as an a ddi t i onal proof of the Mr. James cl ose d hi s case a b out two o ' clock, after unworthy (the squee za bl e ) mo ti ves b y w hi c h t h e w hi g ad- which Mr. Br a ndt rep li e d b y an e l oquent appeal on behalf ministration was guided. of Whiston. EXTRAORDINARY COMMOTION AMONGST GOOD HOUSEWIVES.—A contemporary, whose sources of in formation extend even. into "the bowels of the earth," if he is not also, like Gltadower, on visiting acquaintance with the " spirits of thk vasty deep," propound,: Tuesday last, the following oracular and awful warning " We recommend good housewives to lose, no time in looking into the state of their coal cellars 1" And to clench so significant_an appeal to the prudent and careful amongst womankind, the writer continued, " for if the colliers turn out," &c. " coals will be much dearer before Christmas"—a conclusion which, as the old song has it, " nobody can deny!" Had a thunderbolt fallen down the grid, or a policeman been found secreted in the pantry of every house in Liverpool and its suburbs—in every house, at all events, by whose inmates our sublime contemporary is read—a greater amount of consternation could scarcely have been excited than was the result of this awful an nouncement. There was a universal " getting down • stairs" from breakfast, drawing, and dining rooms into the subterranean apartments. Committees of inquiry sat in every coal vault. Scuttles were everywhere overhauled : grates were contracted with a view to prevent the waste of the precious material, coal ; and, in some quarters the sifting of the cinders was tremendous. For some days the run upon the banks (in the coal yards) was incessant and the charge of getting in a load was raised from six pence to one and t wopence ! U p to t h e moment of pub lication we are not in receipt of any further information with respect to this impending calamity—this threatened decrease in the supply of caloric. Our contemporary's reporter is, however, no doubt actively employed under ground ascertaining the precise state of affairs, amongst the ebony-faced gentlemen who are said to be conspiring to freeze us ; and if anything very important transpires, as the result of his explorations, we shall probably give it in an early second edition. In the meantime, good house wives should be very, very careful, and put the cook upon half allowance of coal, taking the precaution to padlock the cellar door. THE LONDON TIMES ON THE STATE OF IRELAND.— The following graphic description of the state of Ireland appeared in an article in the London Times of Friday last. Our readers will perhaps think the expectation rather a Quixotic one, that a catalogue of evils so awful can be wiped out, either by the tampering truckling measures of whig - radicalism, or by the payment by the state of the priesthood of Ireland, as re commended by the Times, and some small journal ists who pipe in echo of the " Thunderer" of Printing House-square :—" The main and chronic evils of Ireland are defective laws, defective sustenance, hostile classes— which latter may be resolved into enmity of races—and hostile religions, all deeply interwoven with each other, and all aggravated by ignorance inveterate and endemic. Organised or institutional power has for centuries been in the hands of a conquering race, which has until lately used it to the detriment of a defeated people, having still the preponderance of elementary or physical power. The laws of the 17th and last part of the 18th century were made for the enjoyment of the armed few, and for the en durance of the multitude disarmed—a state of things which could not have been lasting. This opposition, therefore, between the nature of the laws and that of the community, has been one cause that retarded the growth of civilization, being in fact a state of legalized oppres sion, which fretted and ulcerated the mind of the whole natio i—of one part through the thirst of change, of the other through jealou s di s lik e o f t h e purposes for which change was demanded. The uncivilized habits of the Irish have made them callous to so much of their poverty as does not press upon them in the shape of actual hunger, and have therefore tended to perpetuate that poverty through successive generations, Dirt and squa lidness in all their abominable influences—rags even to nakedness—daily irregularity, disorder, and confusion in the household—boundless ignorance, yet unbridled curi osity—fawning endurance of insult at the time, but a spirit of foul and insatiable vengeance afterwards—ran cour and attachment, each carried to excess towards their respective objects—insolence alternating with adulation— cowardice wreaking its cruelty in murders of the helpless, exhibited by one and the same person, with daring courage in the field of battle, against the brave—incessant loqua city, with profound secrecy—treacherous baseness held in no dishonour towards a foe, nor barbarity towards a he closest intercoiuse of life with nearest ;—such lawsuits, with abhorrence of ti re of lies, yet prone to lying he medley to be found, of sion, mixed with physical agony The decision will not, of course, be known for the pre sent. The land in dispute comprises one-half of the area of Prescot township. NATIONAL SOCIETr.—A circular has been issued by the bishops to the clergy in their respective churches, in closing a copy of the Queen's letter, requiring in each church or chapel a sermon in behalf of this admirable society, from the operations of which the children of the poor derive such unspeakable advantages. The sermons are to be preached on such Sunday before the Ist day of June nest, as the clergy may judge most favourable to the purpose. LIVERPOOL SCOTCH THISTLE CURLING SOCIETY.— Last Friday evening a meeting of the friends of this win ter exhilarating sport, met at the house of Mr. Halliday, Everton, for the purpose of arranging the rpniii.itp rsuklSoll. wriNaught w. elected president for the ensuing year ;. Mr. Gedd The original skips were all re-elected. with the .d trusting, ere long, to tr their sli -early, Y ppery game in " combat fierce," without the aid of blows. was re- separatec ST. JOHN'S CHURCH.--By the decease of the late Mr. Moss, vicar of Walton, the lectureship attached to St. John's Church in this town becomes extinct ; and by the provision of the act on which the church was sold, the Rev. William Falloon, who is now sole minister, has the power of appointing his own curate, for whose stipend £lOO per annum is secured by act of parliament. The demise of the lecturer gives no increase of stipend to the present incumbent. The want of light is at present felt in this church, but we have reason to hope that the gas will soon be supplied, and that dense district be thereby benefited by a weekly evening service. TH'S FUNDS, SATURDAY NIGHT.—The business trans acted in the funds to-day has not been extensive, but quo tations, nevertheless, maintain much firmness. Bank Stock left off 181 to 182 ; Exchequer Bills, 575. to 595. premium; Consols for Account, 95+; Three per Cent Reduced, 95-1 to 96; and Three-and-a-Half per Cent Re duced. 1021 to In the foreign market the transactions present no important feature. Considering the limited amount of operations, the tone of firmness has been very well supported. Spanish Actives left off 201 to + ; the Three per Cents, 30+ to -.1-; Mexican, 31+ to ; the De ferred 9+ to s ; Portuguese, 431 to 44 ; Colombian, 11+ to ; Danish, 85} to 861 ; Chilian, 99 to 101 ; 731 to 741 ; Belgian, 103 to 104; and Peruvian, 22 • j 23. LOYAL ORANGE INSTITUTION.—OR Wednesday last, a meeting of the Grand Committee of the Loyal Orange association was held at Newton, at which deputations attended from Liverpool, Wigan, Ashton, &c. Several resolutions, having for their object the good government of the body, were passed, and much valuable and cheering information communicated upon the subject of the steady advancement of the order and of the principles which it is formed to carry out. After the meeting, the members of the various lodges present sat down to a sumptous dinner, at the Horse and Jockey, at which the usual loyal toasts were given, and the harmony kept up until the hour of their departure by the Railway train. It may not be generally known that the Grand Protestant Confeder ation has recently been united to the Orange body, thus enablng it to assume its legitimate position, as the most powerful body, organised for the support of protestantism, in Great Britain. " A NIGHT WITH PUNCH": MR. W. J. HAMMOND'S ENTERTAINMENT AT THE PORTICO.—A most amusing entertainment has been got up by Mr. W. J. Hammond, entitled " A Night with Punch." He has been extremely successful in London with it, and last night gave his old friends and admirers in Liverpool an opportunity of judging whether the metropolitan papers have been telling truth in their very favourable notices of him. As far as we can judge, they have not done him justice; they have not spoken well enough of this amusing essay. There is many a one whose " ni g ht s w ith punc h , " o f R adley ' s or Lynn's fabrication, have had cause'to regret their com panionship; but the only bead ache that can arise from Hammond's " Punch" will be from the excessive laughter that is produced by a dose of it. Following in the plan of Mathews, Yates, Russell, Reeve, and Miss Kelly, Mr. Hammond continues to keep his audience in ones, and merry matters, for a good two hours and Hammond's rapid transformations were ng we have seen. His Sam Boxer—Mrs. lected wife—Mr. Fluffy. the nhilanthrn_ 3 anyti raiturf ust go who love laughing arid Dec. 12, 1841 MEXICO Commercial letters f rom 'M ex i co, repres ent busi ne l a matters at Tampico and V et a C ruz as i n a mo st depress_,4 condition. The co n ti nue d a l terat i ons ma d e the d t; had caused heavy losses t o th e storekeepers, au lt ith consequence was felt in several heavy failures. so n however, con s id ere d th a t t h e want o f goo d s win ( t he convince Gen. Santa Anna and his governmen t , n ij e tSy error they have comm i tte d i n t h e i r late arrange es with reference as well as to the increase of dut ie g s o ibinff the prohibitions effected in various instances. t on seems to be known here of the measures taken b et the Lord Aberdeen and the Mexican representati ve !Aber that a h t o t p ri e e i I s e in ni t tyh observed meanwhile British Court, Mr. Murphy, nor has it transpired w"blic, or not Mr. Bankhead is soon to depart for the rei ni m ptS not prove to have been impolitic and injurious in "' dency. ,1 . 08 1 1 so vitally affecting our commerce by by t the English Bs ej b do v t e h r e n 1 :)3 1 f7 t . " t ul e0 111 ., Santa Anna appears to have conceived some excee- I wa s strange notions respecting this country, and mobile be ce with those engaged in it, rendering by hi s conduni os • speculative enterprise, with a view to the futpre, Pe r . i tiou g in the extreme, he was occupied with certain r bn. _ . , t plans for his own personal and individual agerandiseleb`ie which betokened a selfishness altogether incoMPaitoo v..th that superiority of mind for which credit haa, o g. given him. With these there would be the less d 6 p rot Lion to find fault, were the interests of our conlm erc- biol substantially damaged by the inimical steps taken bY con . upon the other points noticed. His petty vanities, ia joli ts junction with his gross invasion of the recogni , e d , ream and privileges of foreigners settled Vera Cruz and lat p co, call for remark, inasmuch as they would ceri,tii. lead to the fair conclusion that the intellect of the u"_ h vidual is in some degree disturbed. The fact that thisn'tio personage was at his farm of Mango de Clay°, in 40 1 vicinity of Vera Cruz, making preparations for an exPe,"_ :t h attack from the British naval forces, for the bad T os his insane interferfenau shown in the non.settlement of the commercial da;,,,6 made upon his exchequer, and which have heretalito formed a subject of comment, may perhaps be regarde bic h some confirmatio n o f th e j ust i ce o f t h e sus picion W te o f many must natur a ll y h ave f orme d concern i ng the s ta tto his mind, f or , on t h e w h o l e, i t is almost i mposs ible 5 0 , he fancy that his late frantic proceedings must have been effect of at least a partial or temporary aberration. H 1113 A RD GALLERY. —The last week but one is saver tised in another column. The British and North American royal- steam-Bb►p Caledonia, Captain Lott, which would leave Bgs t°/1 1 - ted ° the Ist and Halifax on the 3d instant, may be expec arrive here on Thursday. hieb The packet-ship Independence, Captain NYe , would leave New York on the ith or Bth instant, an".' d i d no doubt, bring the President's Message, may he "P . ' last here about Christmas Day. She arrived on that day year steani- EATON HALL.—The M arqu i s and M arc hioness as Of Westminster will s h ort l y b e surrounde d b y a nuiner9og family cir c l e , and the hall will b e f u ll o f c ompany our yoTrkHßonßthoesc2rsuths.u—itl:liass off ff acket the approaching holidays. Nei w ‘te noon at two, but she had not reached the river to for our first impressions this morning. We hope t°g tje the intelligence in an early second edition. packet-ship Holyhead rrhe 00. BRITISH IRON CO.'S WORKS.—BUADON. — '"Thifter pie have returned to work, at their former wag es aa ' ;gee having given notice that, in ten days, unless the' r . - 8,8 are then raised, they will strike wkorto a to a gen made, there is little prospect of any advance being eral strike is looked for. , h ; g dal THE CH A SE.—The Cheshire Foxhounds. mee...,t '"," - o rd; (Tuesday), at Appleton ; on Wednesday, at tia r ijacic on Thursday, at H;ghway Side ; on Saturday, tt A ', e es dart Dog, Seighton ; on Monday, at Aston; on b'e," ; ;; 21st , the 20th instant, at Hankelew ; on Thursdah Airesto ll at Cholmondely ; and on Saturday, the 23c1, 3 `;, n Green, near Crewe;—each morning at half-past • rla9 MARINERS' CHURCH R D On ' ri ll 9:11 EADING „ wyheisethergyft. after' afternoon, a sermon was preached by the Sea' M•Neile in the Mariners' Church, in aid o f the th e wens' heading-room attached to that church, s S' sum of £2l 16 s . was co ll ected. The " building" e listen cessively crowded, and hundreds were content to o ut on the deck to th e f a i t hf u l exhortations o f the ei°q charity ball WELSH i C w ri h A ie rt h l t T a y k e S s c p ri la oo ee L e s v . e — r understand a i d the the Welsh Charity Schools in this town, will be . bet " Is.i.arch next, at the Town Hall, under very distiog n ul d s r efht patronage. There are at the present time many I nt h o clOr of children receiving a sound. education in t hese se which are well conducted, and of course it's ve r y rable that as large a sum as possible should be °b ut ' at the approaching ball for their benefit. THE WINTER ASSIZE.—The o ffi cial notice 0. rangements connected with the Special Cornnlis,! i° ,7 t does Thenot extend eou rtw t i o l prisoners sit for the committed opened in this town, on Saturday next, show "'c as tle. - 1 anca ster on d s p p m a t i e t a tter , - next, at eleven o'clock. The witnesses in cases 0. I t h e y\ cl o la f rle t t h o e o r s L n i a n t e e s s ye ar,it , htn e le t e tei°ll u a rb r ti )11 : : der, manslaughter, rape, and misdemeanour are .•° The in court at eleven o'clock on Tuesday morning' ea witnesses in all o th er cases are to atten d in court al" o'clock on Monday morning. ST. GEORGE'S CHURCH. —It is rumoured tha., C hin, T. G. Leigh, the present lecturerat St. Georges :,„ e of will succeed the late Rev. T. MOSS, in the vic a :Zoo! Walton. It is generally understood that on the to of Mr. Leigh a vacancy will be caused at St. George this/ be filled up by the present patron of the church , ace d by we have ascertained, is not the fact, as it is stiPu.het of the act of parliament, that on the retirement . •-ea of ei th er fret the present ministers the remaining one shall t h e r e of officiate alone, and the act provides for the PoP l '" only one minister from that period. Micha el MINT CASE.—O n Saturday last, two roe- be - Brennan and Bartholemew Stevenson were chargeouna fore Mr. R us ht on , at t h e P olice -court, wit h bei"g, the in possessic n . o f cer t a i n p l a i ster of Paris mou lds ba se making of counterfeit shillings, and also of soll'ebe coin in the be er ce ll ar and eating-house kept by t were mer prisoner in Bannastre-street. Several m oulds, s hii• found concealed un d er a bed, and a. base unfinishe d ling was found i n one of them, Thirteen other ba c c . : lo l., - lings prepared for c i rcu l a ti on were also f oun d con" - They were both committed for trial at the assizes. ispo . MISSIONARIES OF THE SCOTTISH CHURCH —Observing that a sermon is to be preached in I ) " street Church to-morrow evening (Wednesday,)lt.';icas' interesting:to many to state that the whole of the n' ries of the Scottish Church in India, Drs. Dun , ,,,, e reoc" to the Free Church of Scotland, &c. (thirteen in number,) have declared their al : „ coo' sequence deprived of the mission premises, togelld'ing pew considerable considerable funds in hand, the burden of Pr ° ;.: ars /),- establishments at the di ff erent mission stations / c ore' . heavily on the " Free Church" in the pressure ° building, &c. at present going on in Scotland. __211,. CORN EXCHANGE We have to report another week of inanimate fr 4 : o ; y . a rt l i : of requiring particular observation has been done: n arli c t ifeY and prices have remained without alterition• tig' ers' e st, Flour and Oatmeal are consider/lab— of otbe r wenOs and having been with 4ANCHEST MIAOSUVI et ltir ; U. da are not beyond an a verage quantity, : from Can' OC' to' 15 102 qrs. Wheat, and 1 J,679 brls. Flour. th e tee- lia'f The flatness of the Liverpool market, and decline in the price of Wheat at Wakefield 3-esterot O cote.s '- effect upon us this morning, and though we d° l b , tar n I .o ` positive reduction in prices of Wheat and Flour , _ _ r ico. favour of the buyer. Oats and Oatmeal dull 0 late i' ________.././--- Beans and Malt, no particular variation. da )r ' 911„i, 11' LIVERPOOL CATTLE MARKET, 1" a C I; 0 P14 5 15 We have had a very d u ll C attle marke t to-03''t gld may he considered about the same as our last. B ee Mutton 4/d to 5d Doc' ~ot LIVERPOOL PROVISION MARKETS Are a i' t pe Without b • • the P . " - nt . being able to quote an advance in ve rge ter, we have thi s wee k to notice a decide d imPr° f 01 0 ,00 demand for all d escr i p ti ons; and the geueralitY°rice,,ttpe pear sanguine abo u t b e i ng able to obta i n better r e s till adore Christmas shall have turned. Pickled seconds e r ef fered A fOf same low figure, v; z . 6s s to 6 95. Ir i s h Beef is be Dad 15 freely, and for 87s 6d per t ee., a good art i c le re a j i prefei c i a aan' A Pork holders requi re very f u ll pr i ces. A marl'edye given by ship masters to the Irish manufacture' for Bacon is fair, and the currency is unaltered LIVERPOOL HAY AND 1 , 0T , A1 - O - ' 6 I‘/1 ! 9 1 : g i o, 1 ; 1' i DECEMBER 11. ylb ~, ..-- - 0 Id 2 0 7 o1 0 S. d. S. d.l1 -lay, 0 ..••• 110 2 1 new ••'' 0 ‘, . 0 4} 11 1 0 --- 11 1 1 St C r G a ir F s W r..n:e:a:i 00 0 : 3 il : ci g ( 1 I ig 6 —2l 0 Oats •• • ''. )_______"' 28 0 —3l 0 Barley ••'' Potatoes, gglb Pink-eyes Cups Short-tops Cattle Turnips, 19 , tor, Carrots TIDE TABLE _ Ai rs, --.;,...- EvN. IFIEIouT H° , ....:/ 0 -----.------.'::f. 41141113 T uesday 12 2 6 12 28 l5 - vepaSsab 0, la , e fi l. Wednes. 13 250 314 14 10 / La c y ' 'AS --- 5 re - ' Thurs... 14 3 4') 4 8 14 4 Jupiter seta 6 , 20 , e ros, Friday.. 15 '4 39 'l3 13 11 Saturn s ets Ter Saturday I 6 - 5 46 6 .) 22 14 A Ca, lll ' c l‘li ar . 11 0 0 ' Sunday 17 658 734 14 6 3rd 04/ I ch. Terra Monday 18 8 7 839 15 0 OXfi: LIVERPOOL: is 43. PRINTED AND PUBLISIIED .. i . T . sG, EVERY TUESDAY goRINS JOSHUA FLETCHER LACE Y , of 53. GroVe TUESDAY, DECEMBER 1 2 , -- t, an d LEONARD ADDISON, of 14,Great Orford-streoeoti,, At N 0.4, Sr. GEOROWS CIZESCUNT,LIVNO ,Toptol3 Oders •s• - 0 and Advertisements are received by Id es.`! Deacn aud c r t; . Co., Marwick-square; Barker, Fleet-streeo. varilii; - 41 , ann . ° 'ck ; Reynell Chancery-lane; Lavvson a Cera li Re d ' Bil - chin-laLe; Joseph Thomas, 1' Finch -lane, 11, 8 . A i l - widen 'Hammond, 2, Lombrd.slrect; Mitche, Cr 0.91% ion-court, Fleet-street; Clarke and l', aPvis ' the Londe_ court, Threadneedle-street ; Garrawarai at .le ,„„ i alera , Commercial Coffee-house Minciune; at tl,a•n`noter., Coffee-house, Cornhihl; ellapter doffee-henset r l ',o,reaa d st-hen at .d CO ;A c o ...stree .. A ge ncy half-year, 10s. 0' r.. 1 1 g O l bse 1 1 4 4 4 4 ,:an ,4 ery 81),, erl each' 4t 44ttive4 kit 1 '1 to 11t4441 a t 4llll l ee ' f o ilf,‘,r , r Hi Threaen tii 4 t t klei hii le w le ed t rent