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Entperial parliament. HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY. In the House of Lords there were many bills presented from the Commons, desiring their lordships concurrence in the same; the charitable trustees bill, the foreign lotteries bill, Scc. Also a message, requesting a copy of the evidence taken on the Staf ford borough disfranchisement bill. The Dublin and Drogheda railway bill was read a third time land passed. The third reading of the parochial assessment bill was, after some conversation, ordered to be further considered to-day. The Marquis of LA Nsnow NE moved an address to his Majesty to issue a " commission" to inquire into and to report upon the different lines of railways for Ireland, intended to ne submitted to parliament in the course of the next session. He regretted that some similar course had not been adopted regarding En gland; he was persuaded that it would have prevented much expense and painful opposition as to lines, and that the public interest and advantage would have been thereby greatly pro moted. After some remarks, in approbation and support of the motion, from the Mike of Leinster and Lord Fitzgerald, it was agreed to. The report of the committee on the marriages bill was pre sented, 11 and several of the amendments called forth comments. On the amendment of the 2Uth clause being proposed, the one moved by the Bishop of Exeter, requiring a religious declara tion at the time of the marriage, Lord MELBOURNE opposed it on the ground that it was in consistent with the principle, character, and objects of the bill. Their lordships divided on the question. The numbers were ---contents, 29; non contents, 72; majority against it, 43; the Bishop of Exeter's amendment is therefore expunged from the bill. The established church bill was considered in committee. Several alterations were proposed and divided upon. The stamp duties bill was read a second time without any dis cussion. The registration of births bill was read a third time and passed, and the house adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY. A long discussion took place in the committee on the Church of England bill, as to the propriety of annexing the See of So dor and Man with that of Carlisle. No proceeding, however, took place upon the question. The preamble of the bill having been postponed, and the different clauses, after some opposi tion and two divisions, agreed to, the report was ordered to be received on Thursday. Colonel Rushbrooke and others denied the correctness of Mr. Waklev's statements on a firmer evening regarding the treat ment of a blind pauper, and au invalid female. Mr. Waktey replied, that one case was at Bosinere. and not at Stowinarket, and that the other statement was founded on a medical man's letter, whose name he handed to Colonel Rushbrooke. Mr. WA't.t.Ace, having presented a petition from merchants of Greenock engaged in the Newfoundland fishery, complain ing that though Spanish ships went to that fishery on like terms with British ships, our ships, on conveyiug fish to Spain, were exposed to duties not imposed on Spanish importers. Mr. P. Tnosirsox alluded to the difficulty presented by the state of Spain to the due enforcement of the "Reciprocity Act," but held that to enforce a countervailing duty, would be " to cut off our - nose to be revenged upon our face," as England would then lose the carrying trade also. Mr. G. F Yousa declared that it was already almost gone. Mr. WALTER brought forward his promised motion founded on the Petworth petition, comßlaining of the orders issued by the poor-law commissioners. The hon. gentleman stated in the course of his speech that had he been allowed to make .his state ments on presenting the petition, he should have been satisfied to wait till next session, when, he was satisfied there must be full inquiry into this subject. He concluded with moving a resolution for an inquiry into the operation of the poor law act, especially those parts of it that authorised the separation of husband from wife, and parents from children, when in work houses. Mr. CRIPPS contended that the act, though not perfect, had been attended with beneficial effects. 'Lord J. RUSSELL declared that poor-law reform, which was not made a party question. had become imperative; and that it had succeeded to a great extent, in spite of partial opposition. The house eventually divided on it. The numbers were, for Mr. Walter's motion 82. against it 46. Majority for it 36. The lords' amendments to the tithes commutation bill were agreed to. Mr. ActioN BY called attention to the non-communication to the judges of the act empowering them to extend the time be tween the conviction and execution of murderers ; and submitted that exertions ought to have been made to,circulate the know leUge of such act. _ _ The house proceeded with the other orders of the day, and on Mr. WAK LEY moving the third reading of the medical witnesses bill, the house was counted out, there being only 39 present, as a quarter before three. HOUSE OF LORDS.-TUESDAY. The Duke of RICHMOND, after some observations from the Duke of CUMBERLAND, fixed Thursday for bringing up the re port on the Brighton railway bill. The noble Duke threatened the committee with his animadversions when the subject come before the house. Rather an angry discussion took place on the motion for the second reading of the Poole corporation bill, which was ulti mately thrown out without a division. The committee on the stamp duties' bill was postponed till Monday; and the Scottish universities' bill, on the motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, was deferred till next session.. Some important business followed, and their lordships ad journed. HOUSE OF COMMONS.--TUESDAY. The Speaker took the chair at the usual hour. Mr. Hodgson, the new member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, was introduced by Sir G. Clerk and Colonel Perceval, and took the oaths and his seat. The hon. gentleman was loudly cheered on his entrance by the members on the opposition benches. REFORM OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS Mr. A. Tacvoit wished to ask thehon. and learned member for Kilkenny a question, to which he trusted he would give him an answer. He had placed in the order book a notice with re spect to the other house of parliament. What he wished to know was, whether he intended to persevere in bringing for ward that motion in the course of the present session ; and if he did not, whether it was his intention to renew it in the next ? Mr. O'CONNELL said he did not mean, at the present late period of the session, to bring the subject forward; but in stating that he wishe , l to be distinctly understood that his opi nion was, that he acted consistently with his duty in giving no tice of his intention to make the motion at the very earliest period of the next session. The hon, and learned gentleman then gave notice that he would, .early next session, move a re solution of that house to the effect that it was requisite for the public weal of this realm that there should be an extension of the body peerage, and that the peers should be made an el ec ti ve Mr. A. TREVOR gave notice that on Thursday next he would move that the foregoing notice be expunged from the books of the house. Mr. EWART gave notice that in the nett session he should move for a return otali the bills that had teen sent up in the present session a' well us the last to the House of Lords which had not been passed; and also a return of all the bills sent to gist house from the House of Lords which had shared a similar fate. IRISH CHURCH ➢ILL. • Lord J. Russet.s, moved the order of the day for the consi deration of the lords' amendments to the church of Ireland bill. In rising to propose a motion on the subject of the amendments which had been made by the House of Lords in the bill which had been fixed for consideration that day, he felt t incumbent on him, in the situation which he had the honour to hold in the house—he felt it a duty which he owed to the country—to call the attention of hon. members for a few Moments to a question regarding the privileges of the house which was involved in them. The chief alterations made by the House of Lords in the bill under consideration might be classed under four heads. The first was the alteration of the rent charge on the landlords, by which it had been raised from &,even-tenths to three-fourths; the second was the alteration in the distribution of the fund firming the income of the parochial elergy in Ireland, by which the amount in all cases was consi derably increased, and the whole arrangement of the former hill overturned; the third was the taking away a part of a clause which gave a surplus of the revenues of the church of Ireland to the consolidated fund; and the fourth was the total omission of that clause which granted £50,000 per annum for the religious and moral instruction of the poor of Ireland. As a consequence of these alterations and omissions a clause and part of a clause had been left out altogether, and more than half of the p ream bt e o f t h e bill hail been omitted. The ques tion for the consideration of the house was, whether these al terations did not constitute an interference with the pri vileges of the house. He should, however, wave this point, and discuss the subject upon its own merits. Ile was willing that the question should be decided on truth, and that justice ioeitild dictate upon its real merits, and not to make it a questiiet of the privileges of the house. The house would understand him, and he wished to be so interpreted that, i n so d o ing, he gave np nothing. (Hear.) The first alteration Made in the measure by the House of Lords was that by which t h ey raised the amount to be paid by the Irish landowners in the nature of a land tax in lieu of tithes from seven-tenths to three-fourth". He (Lord J. Russell) did not know on what wound that alteration was made, but it seemed to him that its effects would be to impose a burl hen on the landlords which they had not on them before. Re (Lord J. Russell) thought that 7-laths was an equitable arrangement, cud h e was not at all disposed to increase it. (Hear, hear.) He shoUld pass to the second part of the bill in which alteration had been made by the House of Lords. These alterations were of very great importance. The distribution of the fund to be raised by land tax was altered by it. so that the principle, as regarded the in come of the clergy in proportion to tlieir ditties, was entirely chan ged- The government, in framing the bill, had proposed what they had considered a very adequate income for the parochial clergy trf Ireland. Even the curates tinder the provisions of his noble friend's hill were far better provided for than the gener ality of the Curates of :he Church of England. Having don e this, they had then provided that the surplus should go for the religions and in prat instruction of the people of Ireland. That object had been altogetheromitted in the amendment. (Hear.) He would not go into the arguments on which that question origically rested, but he'would merely refer to the various divi sions that had been come to last year upon that question After a long debate of three nights on the 2d of April there was a ma jority of 33 in favour of that principle. On the 11 of April, in committee, there was a majority of 38. On the6th of April there was a majority of 25. On the (he 7th of April there was a ma jority of 27. That principle hail again been debated during the present year on two occasions. and on both had been agreed to. It was, therefore, not necessary for him then to contend with the arguments that had been urged against that principle, or to maintain its truth and justice; brit he did think it was necessary to embody that principle in the present bill, and to make it a substantial part or it. ( Cheers.) By reducing the essential Principle of the bill the House of Lords had put an end to all these prospects. They had sent the bill back, rejecting that Which the House or Common had de:dared was an inseparable part or it—they had sent it back increasing the amount of tithe it , he paid, while they made the distribution of the church esiehl P reve nues, if a the • e, more obnoxious than before. How, then, was House of Commons to deal with it? He (Lord J. Russell) was satisfied, as fir as regarded himself, with referring to the debates an d resole' ti , ins o f the house last year on the subject— the recogniti on the hill preros4r the t ru th an d j us ti ce o f th e pr i nc i p l e w hi c h it. (Iletr. hear.) ad sayin g th a t h e s h ou ld n ever d epart f r cider whether, nfter tt i xight he a question for the house to con po relfrig repared, b ecause it. If the eat „ e ha ir b solernnly affirmed a principle. it was rnem e l en rejected by th e H ouse o f L or d s , tnish of the House of Commons went with a nies;age to the bar guise - agreeing to abandon the House Lords, in that humble that they were in' error, and tuT i n Z i P e the bill. submitting them the true mode of that the House of Lords had taught principle office which h J. Russell) would not accompany them en l e . gislation, he (Lord such a message. He was prepared to standby the prin . er Old be his duty to the o p. 'when out of orate, and w il l; the e ffi rinene, of e had posita principle. to that of coulee it' and no longer pretend to got ern the enuncils of tiffs a ie e . s _'gra (Hear, hear, hear.) He was convinced; the h ouse pu i r " s ' i t' d that course which they had hitherto adopted, that although i ts 'lngress might be uncertain, although it might. aometitnes he THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. interrupted, they would at length have the reward o f th e t ra nquil- (" Hear," and laughter.) Yes, and he l oo ked upon it that lily and satisfaction o f Irelaud; that she would form a main part . clergymen were far below soldiers and sailors in the services of their strength; that she would be a willing assistant to them in they retilered to th e country. But the truth was that. the whole war, and an admirable part of their prosperity and force in peace. ' et this struggle was for the loaves and fishes. • (('.heers from The noble lord concluded by moving that the amendments of , both sides of the house.) It was all it love of in ,n , .v. (Cheers the lords be taken into consideration this day three months. . and laughter.) The struggle was how to make the Most money The question having been put from the chair, 1 , of the church, and to pay as little as possible to those who did Sir H.. PEEL r ose . The right hon. baronet commenced by the tired work. The right hon. baronet opposite, whom he re saving that the motion with which the noble lord had conclud- - gretted not to see just then in hie place, had spoken of the small ed his speech was, of course, tantamount to a total rejection of majority of twenty six by which the principle of appr o priation , the amend men t s i n th e bill ma d e b y t h e H ouse of L or d s, and ; was supported; but did the right hon. baronet forget his own necessarily amounted to the postponement for another year of speech when he was taking leave of office? In that speech the the long-agitated question of tithes. (Hear, hear.) The noble 1 right hon. baronet had said that he had hoped to break down lord had rested his' opposition to the amendments of the lords ' the majority of twenty that first appeared against him, hut, upon a double ground—first : upon doubts whether these amend- finding that he was unable to do so, and that the majority had ments did not interfere with the constitutional privileges of that 1 increased to so large a number as twenty•seven, he thought it house. The other class of objections made by the noble lord ! his duty to resign. (Ministerial cheers ) Yet after this the were upon the substantial merits of the case, and upon the im- i right hhn. baronet said the government ought not to persevere pelicy of making the settlement advised by the House of Peers ! with so small a majority as twenty-six. Honourable gentle- He should follow the example of the noble lord, and, consider' ; men opposite really forgot themselves. (Renewed laughter.) separately both views of these amendments. But, first, ho (,They were like the 'Chinese eye, that thought no eye equal to it. must premise, that if the objections hinted at rather than ex- I (Roars of laughter.) He would r ec o mmen d th e r i g h t honeba pressed by the noble lord, on th e groun d o f i n t er f erence with I ronet to read his own speech made to his own parliament, where constitutional privileges, could be maintained, those objections 1 he confessed Obit he could not go on with a majority of twenty ought to be directly and expli c itly s t a t e d, ( genera l c h eers, ) an d seven against hiin. But then the right hon. baronet said that made the ground of a preliminary refusal to consider this case. i he had the lords with him. What cared lie (Mr. Hume) about It would then be left to them to consider whether or cot their I the lords? Let the lords confine themselves to their own hopes of mutual understanding were so great as to justify them i chamber. What community of feeling was there between the inproceeding further, and i n th a t case t o move f or l eave t o I l or d s an d th e peop l e o f t hi s country? And coul d i t b e sa i d that bring in a new bill ; or, if they despaired of the possibility of i the people of England were adverse to the claims of the Irish such an understanding, of course to decline taking any further l netion ? They called themselves, he believed, the hereditary steps. It would surely be infinitely better for them to waive i protectors of the poor; but dill the poor look' upon them as pro. any objection to this bill on the ground of constitutional privi- 1 teeters at all ? The fact was that the people now saw through lege, and approach the consideration of its merits, than to bring I them. (A laugh.) lie and those on his side of the house forward in a speech a doubtful claim, to litigate the right of acted upon principle, but the h oe . gen tl emen opp os it e acte d the House of Lords to make any a lt e r a ti on , and to reject the altogether upon. party feeling. • (Laughter.) All the country bill on such indistinct grounds as to leave the public hereafter now wanted was to get rid of the party opposite, (loud laughter) in doubt as to the nature of their objection s . (Cheers.) How- and of the evil influence of that party. It' they were destroyed, ever, as the question of privil ege h a d b een ra i se d, he ehould bet , he could see no end to th e p r o s p er ity o f th e coun t r y. (R oars glad of having the opinion of th e ch a i r regarding' it before het of laughter.) Let him remind the right hon. baronet of his proceeded. Before 1 proceed (the right hon. baronetcuncluded) persevering opposition for many years to conceding the claims to consider the argument of the noble lord with respect to the of the Roman cat holies, and how he was afterwards driven to a substantial merits of the question, I think, sir, that it may be of sudden concession of those claims. He would recommend the great advantage to hear your opinion. ( Hear, hear.) right hon. baronet to benefit. by past experience, and concede The SPEAKER said, that since he was thus called upon, he church reform in time. This bill would he no further a blow to would endeavour to state, as clearly as he could, his opinion the protestants of Ireland than it went to destroy that orange respecting the queition of privilege. The bill which had been faction which had so long prevented the people of Ireland from returned to them from the other house, for the regulation of the being treated as they ought. It would be a blow struck at op revenues of the Irish church, could be regarded in no other pression and to relieve the oppressed. lie should give his most light than as a bill for the new distribution of existing property. cordial support to the motion of the noble lord, which he had no He should not be of opinion, according to the best judgment he doubt would be carried by a larger majority than that which could form, that there could be any objection to the lords ex- compelled the right hon. baronet opposite to give up' the reins pressing a different opinion from the House of Commons with of government: respect to the particular manner in which the distribution was Mr• SHAW said that he could have wished that the hon. gent. carried into effect. , had favoured the house with the species of anim a l s t o w hi c h h e Sir It. Peet, th o u g ht he might ass u me th a t th e discassion of bad alluded, as thinking that no one saw them but themselves. the question was disembarrassed of the question of privilege, (Laughter.) The hon. gentleman had very candidly confessed and that he was at liberty to address the house on the merits of that this was a party question; but then he said that the party the question. (Cries of , Hear, hear," from both sides of the feeling was all on his (Mr. Shaw's)side of the htiakte' :But the house.) He approached the second and no doubt the more ho- hon. gentlemen seemed to differ very widely flithilice' govern portant part of the noble lord's speech—namely, the objections went which he supported upon this question, for the bon. gen urged by him upon principle to the acceptance of the a me nd- tleman avowed that he did not look to this es a final Measure, ments of the lords. The noble lord advised them to reject this but maintained the principle of alienation, while the noble lord bill, because it did not embody within it the principle of the re- opposite declared that he viewed the present bill as leading to a solution adopted in the House of Commons in April, 1835, and final settlement of the question. In his (Mre Shaw's) opinion which, whatever might be the intention of the resolution, was the real question was wh e th e r, under the present circumstances directed to the end and had the effisct of removing the adtninis- of the Established Churcti in Ireland, it would be right, or just, tration of which he was at the head. Was it wise, then, for or expedient, to apply its revenues to any other than its own this was the simple question, to reject the decided improvement proper purposes. The clergy of Ireland entreated of the go made by this bill, for the purpose of insisting on an adherence vernment to give up this barren abstraction, and to contritnite to that principle? (Cheers.) They would obtain by this bill a their efforts, honestly and sincerely, to a substantial, a just, a reduction of 25 per cent. in the amount of the tithe composi- satisfactory, and permanent settlement of this great question, tion ; the rent-charge would be imposed upon the protestant which would ensure good government to Ireland, and peace and landlord; the occupying tenant would be relieved altogether prosperity to the empire at large. (Cheers.) front any direct payntent ; they would remove the ministers of Mr. Sergeant O'Loantseet said there were two questions be the establishment from any conflict with the tithe-payers by en- fore the house. One called upon them to dissent from the aiding a department of the government to collect their re- amendments of the other house of parliament; and the other to venues; they would provide for the reform of the church of concur in the measure as sent down to them. He advocated Ireland; they would in s u re th e rev i ew o f every living., without t h e f ormer a l ternat i ve as an act of justice to . Ireland. He in exception, the income of which w a s more than £560 per an- might be stigmatised as a perjurer thr v o ting at a ll u p on thi s num • they would insure the re v i ew o f ever y li v i ng w h ic h re- - - ' question. ['his should not deter him from deciding upon the quire'd it; they would insure a consideration of the state of the question according to his opinion of its merits. church and of the glebe-houses; and they would have it in their Sir J. GRAHAM, On rising, was loudly cheered. It was with power to take effectual precautions against alleged abuses, great reluctance that he again troubled the house; but while he against the holding of pluralities, for instance, or of benefices felt that he could not consistently give a silent vote on this with exorbitant incomes attached. The noble lord advised the question he would endeavour to be as brief as possible. He house not to consent to the realization of these admitted benefits felt himself . obliged to give a passing notice to a part of the and improvements, because the bill did not embody within it- speech which had just fallen from the hon. and le arne d gentle self the alienation of church pr o perty. It was not t h e amount man ou the subject, for the introduction of whi c h, although of the sum taken from the chu rc h w hi c h h e cons id ere d— t hi s was not his chief ground of obj ec ti on . It was thi s —h e o bj ecte d somewhat irrelevant to the discussion, he did by no means bl ame to any alienation. (Cheers ) H e o bj ec t e d to a li enat i on on that hon. and learned member. He allud e d t o th e oa th o f t h e account of the objects propos e d by thi s bill, as h e conce i ve d Roman catholic members. H e h a d hi mse lf b een a s t renuous supporter of the Roman Catholic claims, but had he not felt as such alienation to be pregnant with danger. (Loud cheers.) sured that the Roman catholic members would be bound by an His objections were infiuitely greater to the principle of alien oath as strict as that imposed on protestant members, he cer ation, and to the mode in which it was meant to be applied. tainly would not have voted fur it. (" Hear, hear," from Mr. lie contended not against the amount proposed to be alienated, O'Connell.) More than that, when an hon, friend of his, Mr, so much as against the principle it established, which affected, as he thought, the independen ce o f th e c h urc h of Ireland, sub- Wihnot Horton, endeavoured by a mo ti on i n th at h ouse to jesting it to the control of a comm itt ee o f th e P r i vy C ounc il , restrict the Roman catholic m e m b ers from voting on cert a in who were indefinit e in nu m b er , an d h o ldi ng o ffi ce at t h e w i ll matters relating to the church he (Sir James. Graham) would of the Lord Lieutenant. H e wou ld say , th a t hi s ma i n o bj ec- not agree to that motion ; because lie felt that unl e s s th e y were tion was to the principle involved in the bill, to the nature of bound by a general oath, as protestant members were, it would not be right to admit them at a ll, wijle, on the other ha n d, b e the dependence which it e s t a bli s h e d, an d t o t h e per f ectly unde was not disposed to place any restr'i'ction upon their cons c i e n• fined nature of the demand. Th e no bl e (L or d Jr . R ussel l ) sa i d that he relied much on the f orce o f p o p u l ar op i n i on i n support sinus exercise of'the privilege ensured to th em . H e b e li eve d that the gentlemen then admitted had the same hopes and fears of this measure. A s f ar as th e y h a d h a d means o f ascerta i n i ng the bias of public o pi n i on s i nce th e quest i on eves di scussed in beyond the grave that h e himself h a d, an d h e was, t h ere f ore, 1835, it was not in confi rma ti on o f th e no bl e l or d' s assert i on. satisfied to leave it totheir conscience s t o d e t erm i ne w h a t course they would pursue. Those who framed that oath th o u g ht th a t (Loud cheers.) The go ve r nmen t was i n o ffi ce, an d w h atever i influence office confer r ed was i u f avour o f' t hi s pr i nc i p l e. T here it would be adhered to, and that gr ea t c a uti on wou ld b e o b serve d appeared to have been sever a l v acanc i es , an d h e wou ld as k , by those hon. members in dealin g with su bj ec t s connec t e d w i t h had the constituencies decided in favour of this principle? the protestant established church. (Hear.) For his own part (Loud cheers from the opp o iti en b euc h es d Th ey h a d h a d he now believed that if those h o n. me m b ers o f th e R oman ca tholic faith who had voted f o r thi s bill in its o r i g i na l s t a t e h a d ported by vast majorities tai the H ouse o f L or d s . Th ey h ad t h e attempts at the settleinenteef th e tithe ques t ion i n I re l an d sup conceived that its provisions were inconsistent with the sa f e ty o f same attempts supported by a powerful mino r ity i n the Housethe protestant church they would not have suppo r t e d it. (H ear .) l'he hon. member also said that the ap'propriation clause itself of Commons, approaching within 26 on the last oc c a s i on t o the ' as a of ffere to th eo of I, but majority which decided in f a vo ur o f thi s p r i nc i p l e . Th e opin t they would matter remain indi afterw nce ards as hel p le p a le s ever t reland o the protest that ant ions of the two branches of the legislature were therefore di established church. The hon. and learned gentleman said that vided, and the opinions of the h ouse o f C ommons very nearly approximated. They had had si nce th a t p r i nc i p l e had been the Roman catholic occupier c ould not practically divest himself - of the idea of his being really the payer of th e tith e; ' but the fact embodied in the resolution adopted by th e h ouse , i n d epen d ent of vacancies on a cc ount o f o ff ice —th e y h a d h a d 31 vacancies , that all tithe was ultimat e ly paid by th e l an dl or d h a d been made When that resolution was voted in April, 1833, the occupiers of quite clear in argument, and this bill only went to give that those 31 seats, if his calculation was correc t, vo t e d i n f avour of argument its natural shape. Whil e th e bill a ff or d ed a rational m the principle in the proportion of 21 t o 10 o f th e mem b ers of mode of disposin g of th e tith e quest i on h e ma i ntained that the those seats which had become vacant being more than a clear appropriation clause answered n o a d equate en d as regar d e d the , double. But it was said that th e house was pledged to reject real interests of the people of Ireland. ( Hear, hear.) Had no t this measure, as it ditinot embody the principle of th e reso l ut i on the principle done all it could do ? H a d it no t u p se t th e govern which the !muse had adopt e d, unl ess th e y were at t h e same t i me went of the right hon. baronet the mem b er f or Tamwortb— prepared to reject this resolution. I s it w i se I as k , to re j ect the (hear, and a laugh)—had it not s ucceeded i n secur i ng f or minis attainment of a great and practic a l goo d b ecause the rere tars the support of the hon. anti learned member for Kilken n y season for enforcing a theoretical opi n i on h as not yet come ? —(hear, hear)—his very powerful support—(h ea r, h e a r )— an d (Hear.) We say we wish to see a se ttl ement o f t h e t i t h e ques- had it not served as a binding prin c ipl e bet ween mi n ist ers an d their ultra-radical supporters? (Hear, hear, h ear .) Th e h on. lion ; but we say the principle embodied i n th e reso l ut i on of the house precludes the p o ssibility of a se ttl ement , an d t h at you member for Middlesex had put the case v er y s t rong ly wh en h e are not entitled to demand the enforcem e nt o f an y suc h gr i n- said that the measures of the governm e nt m us t accor d with th e feelings of the people. The elections had been referred to in th e ciple—amid therefore we h a ve resisted it, an d th ere f ore we will resist it. The noble lord says it is for the benefit of th e c h urc h . gross : he would refer to a few in detail. Wh a t did Notti ng - The noble lord's opinion d oes not in this resn ec t rece i ve t h e hamshire say to the appropri a ti on c l a u se ? (H ear .) It reject support of high authorities combined with the nobl e l or d i n t h e ed it. Wh a t did M erione th s hi re sa y t o it ? It di sregar d e d i t. administration of the affairs of this country. Wh en t hi s bill (Hear, hear.) E ssex ? It d es pi se d it. (Ch eers ') Wh at did was brought forward last ye ar by th e c hi e f o f th e government, i n Warwickshire s a y t o th a t c l ause ? It l aug h e d it t o scorn. the other house, he did not ur ge th e acce pt ance o f th e bill on (Renewed cheers.)—[An h on . mem b er: " C um b er l an d !"]— the ground of ensuring safety to th e c h urc h. Th e no bl e l or d Ay, What did they thi n k o f C um b er l an d? (L ou d c h eer i ng.) the member for Lan cas hi re hid quo t e d th e p assage t o t h e no bl e He thanked the h on . mem b er f or th a t a ll us i on. I t b roug h t h int lord opposite, who admitted th a t th e s p eec h did no t b ear hi m at once to a some w h a t me l anc h o l y su bj ec t , w hi c h h e was sp out as quoted, but produced a revised and corrected CO)). for they show in th e s t rongest proaching. It might be sa id by hon. members opposite that the Those words I will again ' cities and towns alon e con t a i ne d th e t rue pu bl ic op i n i on. A quote, possible light how delusive are th e h o p es h e ld ou t o f secur i ty to lamented and respected f r i en d o f hi s, w ith Wh om h e h a d a l ways acted and voted, had bee n menace d on account o f t h e part h e the protestant church from the adoption of this principl e . The had taken on this very subject. He represented the city of noble Premier s a id, " I a m d ee ply sens ibl e and !smell con- Newcastle—a city which h a d h a d the advantage of a visit from cerned at the result of this measure. I feel that this bill may, the hon. and learned member for Kilk ennv —( oppos i t i on c h eers ) and I cannot con cea l f rom myself that it Will, he in the first instance, and for a certain time, a h eav y-bl ow an d a great di s- —who appeared there as the suppo r t er di' th e a d m i n i s t rat i on o f couragement to protestantism in I re l an d—(L ou d cr i es o f Lord Melbourne,' and as the apostle o f th e government . (Dis " Heard)—that it will be also a great t r i um ph t o th e a d verse sent from Mr. O'Connell.) Did the hon. an d l earne d mem b er Party I ad m it th e grea t p er il an d d anger w hi c h necessarily disclaim the object of his visit ? He (Sir J. G ra h am ) un d erstoo d attends up o n an d accom p an i es suc h m i g h ty an d fundamental him him to have said that his was a mission in favo ur o f hi s M a j es t y ' s changes, and that the shake and convulsion they create render government and justice to Ireland. (Loud cheering.) The doubtful the safety not only of the established church but of right hon. baronet explained that in reply to an observation of the constitution of the county." (Great cheering.) I agree the hon. member for Middlesex as to the state of public feeling in this, and seeing the assurances which you gave at the 'Union on this question, he was about to show what the electors of New respect to the protestant church—seeing the hope that you castle bad thought of it. In answer to the question of tbe,hon. held out at the removal of civil disabilities that, so far fuo:n per- member, as to what was the state of public feeling, he was about , mitting it to prejudice, it should increase the security of the to state that the hon. and learned member for Kilkenny bad, in church—l greatly doubt, whatever be the alternative, that it is the spirit of his mission, preached on that text which he (Sir J. either justice or policy to give that terrible, that heavy blow to Graham) conceived to mean catholic ascendancy and the spo protestantisee in Ireland. ( Hear, hear.) If that blow be ine- liation of the protestant church. Of his late lamented friend it vitable, this 1 knew, that we are much more likely to take seine was said that he had been an apostate and a renegade, and that security against its prejudicial effect by resisting the force it was the duty of the electors to deprive him of his seat; and at against it, than by lending our of it, and by standing erect the last election issue was joined upon the very point—the sp erms to aid the vigour of that tame. (Hear, hear, hear.) If • propriation principle—on which the late member was supposed that heavy blew must be givt.u, my hand at least will nut unite to have incurred the displeasure of his constituents. The noble in the stroke. If the cheer of atlv;•rse triumph must be raiSed, lord shook his head; but w as no t th ere a w it ness p resent i n t h e our voices at least shall n o t swel l t h e unholy shout. If the house who could say on what terms he claimed the support of the pillars of the church and the constitution itself must undergo electors and freemen of Newcastle. (The Chancellor of the Ex a shake and a convulsion, then we, seeing no absolute necessity chequer—The freemen !) Yes, the freemen. Was there already for this injustice, protest against the policy of it, and refuse to a distinct ionao the prejudice of those freemen who had had their be your accomplices. (Loud cheers.) I move right of voting confirmed only in the l a st y ear ? He maintained the lords' amendments be now taken Into therefore that consideration. that this very question of appropriation was proposed by the Mr. E. DENISON saw no reason for the house giving up the candidate and that he said he would not vote for its principle. principle which it had embodied in the bill. He (Sir J. Graham) and his noble friend the member for Lan- Lord SANDON deprecated the rejection of a measure fraught cashire had long been watching the course of events, and there with much good to Ireland—a measure which went to remove, fore they were surprised when their eyes were opened to th e many practical grievances that had been long and loudly coins real object which certain parties had in view. On the 25th of plained of, merely because it did net embrace a principle the June last the lion. and learned member for Kilkenny wrote a consideration of Which even the hon.' gentleman who spoke last letter addiessed to the people of Great Britain, on the subject wa y willing to postpone. until the.period art ived when it could. of the elebes belonging to the Irish churcha. nod in thee letter be considered in a practical point ere view. Did loin. gentlemen be made the following statement:—"'We - do nut at present de opposite mean to say for one moment that the insertion of the mand the glebes for the residence of the pastors whom the appropriation clause would remedy any pra c ti ca l gr i evance? t people p re f er. " Th ey on his (Sir J. Graham's) side of the Certainly not. Not one of the advocates of that mea sure , h ow - house had p rev i ous ly a sked th e mean i ng o f th e myster i ous ever they might cloak it in public, but would in private admit clause whi c h h a d p l ace d i n t he h an d s o f L or d D uncanwon the they supported it because it would lead to the destruction of pro- w hole of the glebei of Ireland, and gave him power to alienate, testantism in Ireland. "No.") He said yes; such was the let, or o th erw i se dispose cif them; but the passage or the letter language of the pre s s, and such was the language of hon. gen of the h on. an d learned" member fur Kilkenny which he had ilemen members of th a t h o use. (Hear, hear.) The real in read fully exp l a i ne d the o bj ect o f that clause—it made the de terests of Ireland would be sacrificed to party spirit. (Cheers sign of it s f ramers man if est. W ithin the last few days the and counter cheers.) Once more he called on them not to sa- hon. andlearned member for Kilkenny had written in another letter, also addressed by him to the people of this country, the renewing sentiments:—" Would you tranquillize Ireland crifice real benefits to an imaginary point of honour, nor forego practical advantages in order to maintain the prple of a sup positious distribution of an imaginary surplus. (Hear.) follow up this plan—give the glebes, to the value of LW) per . :vhi S ch it Mr. H ume sa id that the party sp i rit of which the no bl e l or d annum, to the pastor s o f th e great acid overwhelming ma j or ity complained was t o b e f oun d i n t h e ran k s o f t h ose w h o o pp o sed of i r t e he , p e e ft o e p r l e all of thethesed i s c p il r i i n te r s s . t t h l e e y n had it hail a a r t d Last trans the tnhse ministers on thi s occas i on. H e supported the bill of t h e n obl e Pd lord (L or d J . R ussell) because he considered it a better mea- object was to get endowments for the Roman cat h olic church, sure than that which had been sent down from - to transfer the glebes of the protestaut clergy to th e R oman though he con f essed that, in his opinion, neither of them , was catholic priests. (Great cheering from th e oppos i t i on benches.) sufficient to meet the wants and demands of the people of Ire- He wished the people of England to und ers t an d t hi s. (Re land. (Cheers from the Opposition.) He repeated that nei- newed cheers.) He said let the people of this country, whether ther bill went far enough ; but of the two he would take that protestants or dissenters—let the voluntaries of Scotland, un which was calculated to produce the most good. He begged it, derstand that the question was not one of protestant s p o li a ti on , however, to be underst oo d t h at, in supporting the bill of the but of Roman catholic endowment, that it was whether they noble lord, he was not compromisin g himself not to demand a should take from the ministers of the established religion the more extensive measure of church reform when time and cir- fair lands they possessed, and give them to the ministers of a cumstances should make it advisable to do so. (Immense religion for the overthrow of which their forefathers bad bled, cheering from the Opposition.) Wh at did t h ose cheers amount an d w hi c h, w h e th er i n the field or on the scaffold, th e y re j o i ce d to? Did the hon. gentlemen opposite pretend to say their own and gloried in denouncing. (The right hon. baronet resumed measure must be a final tine? (Hear.) if so he would at once his seat amidst loud cheers.) reject it, upon that account. The risible lord's bill he preferred Mr. SHEL L thought that the discussions of thirty years, aided because it was a thousand times betteethan thethill of the hon, by the eloquence of his learned friend (Mr. O'Connell,) had gentleman opposite, both for a fair distribution of the revenues fixed in the minds of the people the great prieciples on which of the church a nd the general amelioration of the condition of their rights rested. The change pervaded all tanks and classes. the Irish people. The people of Ireland had already begun to There once was a time; and so bowed down was the spirit of feel a just con fid e nce i n th e disposition of the present govern - th e I r i s h peasan t—th a t if you smote him he wou ld cower Be ment to do them justice and grant them their rights. (" Oh.") Death the blow. Strike him now, and all the majesty of manly Yes, their rights. To be sure, the noble lord opposite (Lord feeling would' rise in indignant resistance to the insult. His &mien) said th a t h e gr anted thus and gratdad that, but he (Mr. Celtic blood would boil as fiercely as that of your own Saxon Hume) did n o t wan t an y o f th e noble lord's grants. He de- temperament; and be would, as if he were a native of your mantled for the p eo pl e th e ir r i e hts. It was the disposition which 1 great and noble land, where the, liberty of every in , n is the government had shown to do justice that gave the people of sacred from molestation, feel the spirit that belongs to a Itreland a moral c o nfidence in,, them. That the government British citizen as fully and as prou dl y as i f from his birth he had many faults he too welirltoew ; but they might live and had breathed in the pure and vitalizing moral atmosphere of mend. (Laughtet.) On of their greatest faults, in his opi- that noble and majestic land where each man walks abroad in nion, was that they w ere t o n s tantly preferring their enemies to the consciousness of his personal inviolability, the great chars their friends. (Ch eers an d l aug ht e r.) He spcke seriously and ter o f f ree d om e n ro ll e d u p on hi s forehead, and the g reat order feelingly upon this point. (" - Hear, hear," and loud laughter.) of liberty stamped upon his breast. With sixty members in that' The right lion. heronet had stated that he was opposed attire , house, even if they stood alone, unaided by the representatives ther to the princfp;e of alienation; and if he were so, why did of the Scotch and Bnglish people, they would still triumph. He he.deem it necessary to go into details? Why did he not take recollected that at one time the West India interests command his stand ageiest alienation as he (Mr. Hume) took his stand ed si • xty votes in that house, and they were able to resist by for alienation . ' He (Mr. Hume) would have clergymen paid those means the emancipation of the 'West India slaves. But on the same principle that soldiers and sailors were paid. had they not the strong and earnest sympathy of the Scotch people of this country? He (Mr. Sheil) did not'know much; tiowever, there was one fact which he could not help referring to in answer to the assertion that the people of England were not is ith them. This was the Peel Parliament, and yet in this parliament of his own choosing, the right hon. baronet was de feated. (Ministerial cheering.) Suppose, then, we go to a general election, and that the right honourable baronet and his associates are defeated again, and that there be a ma jority sent back to this house to demand such a bill as this again —in that case how will you act? The noble lord the member for South Lancashire in.ty be prepared to resist to the death. But the right hon. baronet the member for Tamworth is too wise to du so. ( Loud cheering from the ministerial benches.) Mr. HonGsoN rose, but owing to the noise that prevailed he was very imperfectly heard in the gallery. He thought that the question they ought to consider was, whether it was not for the advantage of the country that a settlement of the Irish church question should take place, no matter whether or not it endangered the existence of any administration. The settle ment of the question was paramount to auy such consideration. (Hear, hear.) Mr. D. W. flAtivgy rose amidst cries of " Question" and " Divide." He would seriously ask whether any one thought that the practical part of the bill would produce the pacification of Ireland for any considerable period It was far better that tie question remained as it was, and no present result would tie inure favourable for some time, as, by rejecting both parts of the bill, it would tend to the production of some measure which would lead to a final settlement on just principles. Lord STANLEY, at so late an hour, and on a subject, with re ference to which he had so frequently addressed the house, even during the present session, would not trespass upon their pa tience. (Cries of ' Question.") He merely wished to state thereat nature of the question, which had scarcely been touched upon in the course of the debate. The question was not in reference to the tithe bill—not as to the amount of church pro perty—not whether there was or was not a surplus, or whether parliament had a right to interfere with the property of the church. Neither of these was the question, and yet these were the topics to which those who took part in the debate had prin cipally addressed themselves. ( Hear, hear, hear.) The real question was whether they would accept so much of a measure as both houses of parliament had agreed, or postpone for another year—perhaps fur hopeless years—(" No, no," " Hear, hear")—yes, protract and prottactiug for perhaps hopeless years a question which, being left unsettled, was so pregnant with misery, with conflict, and with strife? (Loud cheers.) Whilst the tithes were paid by the poor, miserable, and wretched peasantry—whilst this state of things lasted—there would be no tranquility in Ireland. It was his object, and the object of those who acted with him, to remedy this evil, and he would implore of ministers to aid him in this effort. It was in their power to alter the majority. The votes of ministers alone would do it, and those votes they would give without even the sacrifice of their opinions on the abstract principle. (Cries of" Oh, oh," from the ministerial benches.) Yes, he repeated, without the sacrifice of an opinion they might tranquillize Ireland, and free her from the impending dangers of strife, and misery, and bloodshed. (Opposition cheers.) A word from the g overnment, and that desi ra bl e resu lt wou ld b e achieved. They had the consent of the lords to the measure which would accomplish this. It was in their power to carry it into law, and if they did it not it was their party, and not his, who refused to grant peace to Ireland. • (Cheers.) His object in rising was not to discuss the main question, but to put clearly and distinctly before the house that upon which they were then called upon to decide. The question to be decided was, not the appropriation clause, but whether a bill which had been already accepted by both Houses of Parliament—a bill of real and substantial reform which had. the concurrence of the Clergy, and would give satisfaction to a large class in Ireland—should or should not have their consent. This was the real question; and they had to decide, on the other hand, whether, for the sake of introducing an abstract principle, they would refuse to accept of such a measure, by refusing to sanction the amend ments sent down from the other house. (Cheers.) The real importance of the bill was the opportunity afforded by certain of its provisions to refer the matters in dispute with respect to the church to an amicable decision, and more especially by re moving the inequality now prevailing in the benefices, and by restoring tranquillity to Ireland, upon which he set as high a store as could any gentleman in Parliament. (Loud cheers.) Mr. G. F. YOUNG said that in consequence of the altered de tails of the bill, independent of the omission of the appropriation clause, he could not consistently and conscientiously vote for it. (The hon. member was interrupted byrepeated cries of" Divide," which prevented us ascertaining the exact nature of his obser vations, but we believe that we have given the purport.) The house then divided, when there appeared— Ayes 260 Noes 231 Ministerial majority The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at Two o'clock. LONDON TIMES AND EVENING MAIL. - TllE Public is respectfully i n f orme d that TILE TIMES arrives by EXPRESS every 'Morning at Half-past Seven, and will be on Sale at the Oflice‘ No. 48. Lord-street. TH E EVENING MAIL three days per week, by-post— rice 7d. Advertisements and communications fur t so itor. are re quested to be left at the Office, as above, as Parcel is for warded to the TIMES-OFFICE Nightly. L. T. GASKELL, Agent. ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS. EXTRAORDINARY FETE On MoN DA Y and TuEs Y, the Bth and 9th of Aucrtf. E Proprietor begs leave respectfully to sta , engaged Mr. YATES, r (st instant. that he has the celebrated Manager of the Adelphi Thelfre, who, with his talented Assistants, it is presumed, will get up an Entertain ment quite novel to the inhabitants of Liverpool. and precisely on the same scale as those which have taken place under Mr. Yates's superintendence at the Royal Pitville Gardens, at Cheltenham; Sydney Gardens, Bath • and at Birmingham, Manchester, and the principal Towns in the Kingdom. A CONCERT Will take place in the Gardens. Principal vocalists Miss BETTS, Of the Theatre Royal. Drury-lane, Mr. W. H. WILLIAMS, One of the first Comic Singers of the day; and others whose names will be announced in future Advertisements will attend. Mr. Ykrys will deliver an Address on the occasion, and give his Recollections of the principal London Actors. A Prosce nium will be erected in the Gardens, on which will be repre sented the DELINEATIONS OF' THE PASSIONS, Embodyinv, a Series of beautiful TABLEAUX VIVANTES, or Living Pictures, which will be enlivened and enriched by various coloured Fires, and accompanied by appropriate Music. The whole Entertainment to conclude with the most splendid display of _ FEMALE FASHIONS FOR AUGUST. MAKE AND MATERIAL OF MORNING DRESSES.—At this sea son the promenade and neglige costumes are of far more impor tance than evening dresses, and more variety appears in them than we have remarked for some seasons past; flounces are very much worn ; but many ladies, whose height will not bear this division of the skirt, prefer the bouillon ornament, separa ted by bands of silk or muslin ; the antique trimming, t's la Ninon, is revived, showing the under-skirt flounce high up, with quil led ribbon, the upper being rounded off in front, and edged en suite. The high corsage is usually plaited iu front, the plaits crossing over from the shoulder; the back slightly gathered; sometimes the body is quite tight, with au upper drapery, plaited and caught up in. 4 the centre of the corsage. The sleeves are universally flat at top, the plaits drawn down very low on the arm ; thence the fulirs is variously disposed; sometimes in two large puffings, with high straight cuff, nearly reaching the elbow. Many new - dresses have the bishop sleeve caught up at the elbow in a graceful neglige style; the equal division of ful ness, in five puffs, is become very common; if we were to cite the most recherche style of long sleeves, we must give a prefer ence to the Gabrielle ; this curious mode is tight to the elbow, where a double ruff!, (of the same material as the dress, and edged with lace or rihbin) falls about a half-quarter's depth ; the remainder of the sleeve consists of horizontal plaits, drawn very tight to the arm. With respect to the materials of morn ing'dresses, white muslin is considered the fashion of the month ; some of the newest cheque(' muslin are beautifully fine and transparent; others are raved, and some have small white flowers woven in a very novel manner into the lined muslin; pelisses, as usual display very beautiful embroidery; this is either placed down the fronts, or on the corsage, where it forms itself into the exact shape, and terminates in a point before; epaulettes, cuffs, and worked girdle to correspond ; these recher chi; dresses are always trimmed with lace. Clear muslins, che qued or striped, with a narrow-coloured line, are favourite morning dresses; they should be trimmed with a ribbon ruche of the same tint, and made in the most simple manner. At the sea-side, foulard silks will be worn these dresses, made en re dingote, have a deep pelerine, pointed before and behind, and trimmed all round with ribbon of the prevailing colour in the silk; plaids will be more worn than the more intricate patterns formerly seen as foulards. ENSEMBLE OF EVENING COSTUME.—The skirt remains of the sameextreme fulness, rather long behind, and gathered in stead of plaited round the waist; the corsage square and low; the sleeves, either in a range of small bouffants, or tight to the elbow with double ruffles; if in bouillons, an agraffe or tassel is placed. between. For our summer dresses,_ the simple net ruffle, edged with a nar r o w l ace , h as superseded the most costly point and Mechlin. A chetnisette or fichu completes the toilet. A curious mixture sanctioned by fashion, is the plain white muslin dress, with black velvet pauvre girdle; sleeve knots and bracelets; the effect is very good on a tall figure. The flounce is gaining favour daily, especially on figured muslins. The fol lowing details may be relied on as descriptive of the most ap proved evening dresses to be worn during the ensuing month : A robe of white organde, the flounce caught up at intervals with bowers of primrose ribbon, the same inserted through the hem; carsage a Is vierge, with bows on the shoulders confining a fichu, which is pointed before and behind; primrose girdle, and band separating the double bouillons of a short sleeve ; sleep ruffles, edged with blond ; black net mittens and collaret ; chip hat, white lancer feather tipped with primrose ; pearl bandeau over the forehead, and pearl brooch in the centre of the collaret. An embroidered white muslin over a blue silk skirt, the pattern t colonnes; pointed corsage, with drapery crossing to each side, and an embroidered stomacher between; Bernais cap, with lace lappets and black velvet bandeau, on which is sewn a string of pearls, two tassels hanging on one side side • the lappets also fastened to brides of black velvet. A green and white spotted silk dress, flounced and trimmed round the corsage with a fall of the same material, edged with lace ; white lace fichu, lined with sea-green satin ; double bouillon short sleeves, the ruffles composed of white net edged with lace, a green ribbon run through the broad hem above ; white lace cap, with a demi-veil thrown back, and a little garland of foliage in front; ear rings and bracelets of wrought gold. Peava 'LING COI - Ml.llls FOR THE MONTH.—PaIe rose, jon quil, cerise, and tea-green ; blue and primrose for linings, and dark ponceau for trimming straw bonnets.— World of Fashion. The public dinner intended to be given by the conservatives of Halifax to their talented and respected member, the Hon. James S. Wortley, on the9th of August, is postponed until Octo ber, in consequence of parliament not breaking up so early as was anticipated, and also at the request of several distinguished conservatives, 'who are wishful to honour the meeting with their presence. A great number of tickets have already been disposed of, and we are truly glad to hear that that once peaceable and loyal town is fast recovering from the political contagion with which it has of late been infested. Trueandgocalmen who have their country's welfare at heart are continually pouring in, and enrolling their names as members of the Constitutional Associa tion.— Leeds Intelligences. FORTUNATE MISTAKE.—The Rev. Mr. Ouseley preached in the Wesleyan Methodist chapel, lately, in Pettigo, against the Roman catholic doctrines, particularly against purgatory and auricular confession. Some of the devoted followers of Dens' Theology, not pleased with his reasoning on these points, lay in wait in the direction which he was supposed to take for home; but, happily for Mr. Ouseley, he did not go that way. The mis creants, however, belaboured a liontish priest of the name of M‘Donagh, whom they , supposed their intended victim, and cut him in the head severely, calling out whilst so doing,—" Take that for your arguments on purgatory."—Enniskillen paper. UNPATHOMARLE WELLS IN PENN SY LVAN I A.—The Allegheny Magazine states, that a well was dug, some years since, in the great valley betwee n the north and south mountains in Franklin county, the bottom of which, at the depth of 36 feet in each, suddenly gave way, and a torrent of water flowed up. A lead, with 50 fathoms of line, wcs sunk without finding any obstruc tion. and the wells remain in the same state at present. The presumption is, says the writer, that there is a subterranean lake in that quarter, extending tinder the base of the vast primitive ranges of mountains between the Susquehannah and Pittsburgh on the Ohio. ENGLISH PUGILISTS IN AMERICA.—We copy the following from the New York Evening Star:—Deaf Burke gave last night, at the Howard House, a touch of his quality, by sparring with several amateurs who came into the ring. The first round com menced with Pheelan, whom he dispatched in great good hu mour in double quirk time. Blackburn, who was much taller than Burke, shared the sa me f ate. B urke s h owed him how lit tle formidable he thought his gaunt figure, by receiving his blows calmly in the face, and returning him body hits with an electric velocity, which soon did the business for him. But there was a young New Yorker named Vanderzee a printer, who now came up to Burke's general invitation, having shown to the company a little sparring with another a short time before. He seemed disposed to take the hull by the horns. Burke took his counters for some time very smilingly; but finding Vanderzee struck ra ther harder than he wished, he let it into him right and left, and about his mug and bread basket, with such well directed hits in quick succession, that the contest was put an end to in no time. The company were numerous and highly respectable, and all en joyed the sport. Fuller was there, and many of the elite of the sporting world. Burke is a curiosity—a perfect bull neck, square headed fellow—pluck and game to the last, but not deep in sci ence. He wears out his adversary—nothing can kill him. He is only 26, thick set, rather short, with small features and eves, arms long and like a giant's. His face is slightly pitted. He makes no pretension to education, but speaks in a broad provin cial dialect. He told the company he would fight an Irishman at Philadelphia named Andrew M 'Kean, who had challenged him, and that he would <rive him odds of 5,000 dol. to 4,(XM (bal. 'end meet him half-way between The two cities. TO CORRESPONDENTS. To "A. Z." we answer, that, according to Dr. Johnson's defi nition of the word theatre, there are five in Liverpool. We cannot insert anonymous correspondence. The allusions to a member of the Common Council are of too personal a character. " L. V" is informed that the subject of his communication has not escaped our notice. We believe that the object of " Conservatoire's letter is under consideration. We have received the Report of a Committee of the Manches ter Statistical Society, which shall be noticed in our next. Mr. Overend's communication, from Portadown, Ireland, em bodying a charge of piracy of the words of the serenade lately published here, " Wake lady wake," scarcely bears out that charge. The circumstance of the song having pre viously appeared in print may prove it not to have been writ ten for the occasion which it does not profess, but does not establish a charge of piracy, the author's name being set forth on the title-page. Ebe Eiberpool ,Stantiatb. FRIDAY MORNING, AUGUST 5, 1836. General Evans is playing an awkward game with the officers of his legion as well as with his unpaid and suf fering soldiers. The enlistment was made for a year, as plainly as words could make a bargain. The first year is about to expire, and many of the officers, we may say three-fourths of them, wish to leave a service in which neither honour nor profit is obtainable; but ere they leave they naturally desire to have their pay. General Evans, however, shuffles as to the term of enlistment, and, indeed, with regard to the whole matter, makes a very disreputable attempt to entrench himself behind the Spanish Government. This line of policy will not work well. One half of the privates are in a state of mutiny already, and if the of ficers also become refractory, or quit the service, sacri ficing the arrear of pay, the Legion becomes a military jest. Evans has been a most unfortunate dog. But it must be confessed by all who desire to speak truth, that his in capacity for the task he has under taken is even more con spicuous than his bad fortune. At the date of the last accounts he was still locked up in his old positions. If the French papers are to be credited, Gomez is re duced to some straits in Gallicia. In the House of Lords, on Monday night, the Marquis of Lansdown proposed, and the House agreed to an address to his Majesty " to appoint proper persons to in quire and report upon the most advantageous lines for railways in Ireland." We cordially approve of this; it will not only tend to give to Ireland what she so much wants, an effective internal communication, but will pre vent gambling projectors from setting traps for the un wary. To such a " justice for Ireland" no man can ob ject who really desires to rescue the mass of the Jrish po pulation from their semi-barbarism. Nevertheless we should not he surprised to find O'Connell opposed to the employment of government surveyors, as he has long op posed Irish poor-laws, for he and the Romish priests are deeply interested in keeping in full play the causes of Ireland's degradation. There was another proceeding of the House of Lords, on the same night, on which we cannot, with all our re spect for that body, bestow our approbation. We mentioned, ,on Tuesday, that the Bishop of Exeter had succeeded in giving to the marriage cow, in the Dis senters' Marriage Bill, something of a Christian cha- racter. On Monday night, the Bishop's amendment was nega.• tived, and the original clause restored. Lord Melbourne moved it on the ground that he feared that those for whose benefit the bill was designed would make . the Bi shop's declaration an obstacle on the ground that Parlia ment was introducing civil officers into dissenting chapels in order to perform a sort of religious ceremony. The original declaration ran thus :—" I call upon those per sons here present to witness that I, A. 8., do take thee, C. D., to be my lawful wedded wife." The amendment carried in Committee by the Bishop of Exeter was as follows:—" In the presence of Almighty God and these witnesses, I, M., do take thee, N., to be my wedded wife, to live together according to God's holy ordinance; and I do here, in the presence of God, solemnly promise be fore these witnesses, to be to thee a loving and faithful husband during life." In our estimation, the superiority of the latter declaration is too evident to raise a doubt in the mind of any truly Christian person of whatever sect. Marriage, next to death, is in itself the most solemn and important event in the life of man or woman, and surely such an act ought not to be entered upon without special reference to the protection and blessing of Almighty God. The Dissenters, however, have strange notions in matters of this kind. They claim superiority of piety over church people, yet they are sensitive to the last de gree when called upon to observe some definite form of expression. It may be perfectly correct, as urged by Lord Melbourne, that the Bishop of Exeter's amendment would have been made a stumbling-block, and might, perchan have caused the abandonment of the Bill when sent back to the Commons. But surely this per versity of spirit is not a very good reason why the House of Lords should shrink from its duty as a branch of a Christian legislature. To (mi. surprise, Lord Melbourne's motion was _carried by 72 29, a consitbrau, party voting, with the P.-em;er. The Bill nab g ,Aie through Committee without alteration, except of a verbal kind. The English Church Bill is also getting. through the House without material alteration• Monday the Earl of Ripon objected to abolishing; the Bishoprics of Sodor and Man and the attachment of the latter island to the See of Carlisle. His Lordship sail that. the Bishop of Man was among the oldest of the Prelates ; that he was looked up to as the second per sonage, if not the first in the island; and that he was a trustree of almost every charity within the circle of the shores of Man. In reply to this it was urged that the Commission had sifted the question, and had strong re a . sons for its recommen d at i on. T he sub j ect will be agaul mooted in Committee. So far as we can judge, we should be inclined to pro mote the proposed change. We know that our insula' neighbours set a high value upon their ancient laws , customs, and privileges, and that, sonic of their notions of the importance of what they term their independence are extraordinary, to say the least of them But our be lief is, that the more intimately the island is connected with England the . better for all parties, but particularlY so for the inhabitants of Man. There was a very interesting debate in the Commons, on Monday night, on the question of the new Poor Lao' Act. Mr. Walter moved to pledge the House to a n early revisal of the Act next Session, and entered very fully into the subject. Although there are some good features in the poor Law Act, there are some of the enactments positively disgraceful to a civilized country: The Hon. Member's main censure fell upon the refusal of out-of-door relief; the separation of husbands from their wives, and chil dren from their parents, in the union workhouses. We have not space for a lengthened commentary, but we refer the reader to an article which we have copied from the Standard The eloquent writer has perhaps coloured rather strongly, and has left his picture incory plete by omitting a description of some of the worst parts of the old system ; yet it must be confessed that there is too much truth in the complaint that Christian England, under the influence of a spurious, march-of-in tellect philosophy, does not now treat her poor as a coun try should do that owes so much of her wealth, and strength, and greatness to her labouring population. Notwithstanding that Mr. Walter's motion was voted down by 82 to 46, there were symptoms manifested, on both sides of the House, that all is not right, and we sincerely hope that, if government does not do its duly• Mr. Walter will again and again force the question upon the attention of parliament. When reform came, the poor were taught by the heartless beings who have driven so thriving a trade upon that word, to expect great and lasting advantages. Contemplate the march of mind, as it is called. To what does it tend ? We will answer our own question• It leads to tyranny and oppression. Your liberals by profession are the essence of illiberality and selfishness; and the bawlers for license in every thing connected with their views and interests, political or civil, are the first to play the part of the Universal Philanthropist who kicked the contented knife-grinder. The House of Commons, on Tuesday night, after a lengthened debate, on the motion of Lord John Russell, rejected the Irish church bill sent down to them by the _ _ _ House of Lords, thereby condemning the landowners, the clergy, and the Irish population generally to another year's turmoil, discontent, and even murderous strife, which it was the avowed object of this measure to supersede - Lord John Russell went through, once more, hisweather beaten and threadbare arguments, under which he 1 135 before laboured to show the justice of, and to carry, the spoliation clause in this bill. After some coarse allusions to the resistance of the House of Commons in foriner days, and on which Sir Robert Peel very g en tly, but pointedly, animadverted, the noble leader of the whigs took great apparent merit and credit to himself for for bearance on the question of privilege, and on which the tone and style of the speaker, and his expressed opinion, indicated a well understood arrangement between mi nisters and their thick and-thin confederates. Our readers are especially referred to the all-powerful speech es of Sir R. Peel, Mr. Shaw, Sir J. Graham, and Lord Stanley, which stand pre-eminently contrasted, in force of argument and strength of reasoning, with those of Mr. Hume, Mr. Denison, and Mr. Shiel, on behalf of ministers. On the division, there appeared—for Lord John Russell's motion, and against Sir Robert_Peers amendment, 260; against ministers, 231. Majority , twenty-nine ! So, then, the famous whig, conservators of 1836 have induced the House of Commons, that is, the officials of government and the Irish tail to reject the lords' amendments to the bill, which, in the form sent down by them, rendered it a measure of safety and of salutary commutation of tithes with the clergy ; and with, as it were, the same breath, the mercenary delegate of a fo reign priesthood, alien alike to our reformed church, our limited monarchy, our hereditary peerage, nay, our so cial independence, as the English nation, has, with un - . blushing effrontery, renewed his motion for a reform of the House of Lords ! Such proceedings are nothing less than a scandal to legislation itself—a mockery of justice, the derision of truth, and an insult to religion- - Pon°, egetur tuitis que nesdo—lleu pietas!—lieu pg" dea, fides ! Amiable association of sentiment and o f pur pose, worthy, indeed, of such a cause ! " When Greek meets Greek, then comes the tug of war." But neither the wisdom, the philosophy, nor the virtue of Greecian policy enter into this unholy compact of the liberals, and the lords may bid proud defiance, sustained, by their constitutional prerogatives, to the vaporing of' the Irish agitator. True it is, that the modern solons whom he honours with his support and official retention are prepared to do his bidding—to perform glaring injus tice Without sense of shame—to compromise the honour , the independence, the practical utility, and the moral efficiency of the protestant church in Ireland—to starve her hard working and deserving clergy—to sacrifice' truth on the altar of popish expediency, ,and immolate princ;ple at the shrine of " Appropriation" the talismas of the whits and the watchword of him who is, de faOto•,, their master ! So much for the triumph of the inglori ous majority of twenty-nine ! The utter worthlessness—the ragged notbingnees'O f this appropriation scheme, the merits of which have been sU ably scattered before tha winds of argument by Sir R. Pee l and Sir James Graham, admit of little further discussion: at our hands. It would be an insult offered to the un— derstanding of our intelligent, readers and the commo n sense of reflecting, unprejudiced Englishmen, to dwel l upon the subject. Our independent and conservativ e member, Lord Sandon, has done his duty to his canstitu7. ents and to his own conscience—has vindicated the honour of religion by voting against the ministers. Let Lor d. J. Russell shroud himself in this mantle of popery and ery courage its canker-worm to fasten on the vitals o f our and let hi m p reserve p l ace with protestant constitution, out honour—wihout glory to himself and without advan tage to the people of Ireland, as a body. If his lordsh i p prefers this course, the people of England will form their own judgment of his motives and the sincerity of his pr° - fessions, for the value of his statesmanship is manifest in his actions. FIRE WORKS! ever seen in Liverpool; by M. D'ERNST, Artist to his Majesty. The Entertainments will be more fully explained in the Bills. On account of the immense expense incurred, the Admission will be, for Non-Subscribers, 25.; Children, Half-price. THEATRE-ROYAL, LIVERPOOL. FOR THE BENEFIT OF MISS TURPIN, And her last appearance this season. On which occasion Mr. HENRY WALLACX, of the Theatre-Royal, Covent garden, will make his first appearance at this Theatre, and will for this night only sustain his original character of Robert Macaire, in the popular drama of that name. Miss BETTS, of the Theatres-Royal, Covent-garden and Drury-lane, whose valuable services have been secured for this Evening, will sing several popular Songs in the Concert. Mr. VALE, of the Theatre-Royal, Covent-garden, who is en gaged for a limited period, will make his first appearance on this occasion in his original character of Jac 'Strop. Third Week of Mr. II ENRIH 0 RN cAsT ,of the Theatre. Royal, Drury-lane fIIHIS present FRIDAY EVE I be performed the Opera of THE BARBER SEVILLE. Fiorello Mr. Henry Horncastle. Count A linavi va.... Mr. G. Horncastle. the sth instant, wi: Figaro.. Mr. Browne. - Rosina.. Miss Turpin. After which a CONCERT, consisting of Songs, Duets, &c., by Miss Betts, Miss Turpin, Mrs. W. H. Bland, Mr. H. Horn castle, and Mr. G. Horncastie. To conclude with, for the first time at this Theatre, a new Drama, as performed ht the London Theatres, with distin guished approbation, called ROBERT MACAIRE. Robert Macaire Mr. Henry Wallack. Jacques Strop Mr. Vale. Marie (a poor woman) Mrs. Stanley. On SATURDAY a favourite Play and Farce. LONDON LATEST NEWS. ,• City, Wednesday, Twelve o'clock' • Accounts of th e d e ath o f M r . R o th sc hild , w hi c h were re ceived 'n yesterday even i ng , a b ou t s i x o ' c l oc k, b y an express to his ra",J,,,, a here, have c a us ed a cons id era bl e sensa ti on on ' Change, a n among the monied interest. His demise will he regretted_ti; many classes of society,and particularly am ‘ngst the poor ( 11 ` ) _, Jews and Christians), to whom be was very charitable, and,v,ii'e particular occasions of distrevs, gave large donations• a understand be left this country without making any will; pu bts few days before his death, he mad e on e , i n w hi c h he reque 1., that his body should be brought to Lond o n f o r interment, a.. though Frankfort was his birth-place. It appears he wa s sentsl id ble that his immense fortune was obtained in Eng;lalid , %l where his house was looked upon as one of the first comm er s c v and speculative, houses in Europe. The confidence which.a.,, placed in him in money, as well as various other ttaus acticc was without limit.' We hear that he retained his senses to th e last hour of his life. His body is expected to arrive about Tv; latter end of the . week, accompanied by the whole of his Madame Rothschild bemoans the severe loss she has sustained; she has been an affectionate and dutiful wife—scarce ever iea ing, him or reposing herself during nine wecki—watch in g - o'er Attb.,