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the electors of Liverpool are to be the only people who are to be exempted from the shilling ? Mr. Alderman EoBINSON.—Yes. Mr. Couuncillor G. H. LAWRENCE. wasting our time in urging that. Mr. Alderman RoetelSoN.-1 think the gentleman has for gotten we are praying to relieve the freemen of Liverpool only? Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.—But that goes into the borough purse ? Mr. Councillor WALIIISLEY said he should be very glad to Second the motion, with this addition, Mr. Cooper consenting to withdraw his seconding. Mr. Masotti said the motion and amendment are certainly perfectly well so far as they go, but I don't think they go far enough. Mr. Councillor W. CuttelE.—There is no amendment. Mr. Councillor MASON.—Then I will call it the compound Motion. (Hear and laughter.) It appears to me, sir, that in making an application of that kind to Parliament we should Very soon be resisted. 1 cannot, for a moment, suppose that the government would recommend that measure as extend ing only to Liverpool, leaving out the other parts of the country. First, with regard to the payment of the shilling for registration, the motion does not include the payment of taxes ) which is much more obnoxious than the payment of the shilling. But, looking at the whole, I shall consider it ray duty to propose an amendment, extending to the taxes as well as to the shilling. (Great laughter.) It appears to me, gentlemen, that the relinquishing of the shilling will furnish o relief to the housholders. The great oppression appears to me to be the payment of taxes; and by taking off the shilling we shall derive no benefit. 1 shall, therefore, beg to propose a much more comprehensive Clause than the one Contained in the motion:—(Continued laughter)—" That a committee be appointed to take into consideration the pro priety of petitioning both Houses of Parliament, on the opening of the next session, for an act to enable the Town- Councils of the various corporate towns in England and Wales to abolish the customary fees or charges payable on the admission of freemen to their freedom; and also to repeal those clauses in the parliamentary reform act, which impose the payment of a shilling on the registration of electors, and the payment of rates as a part of their qualification." Mr. Councillor MotiEcaorr seconded the amendment. Mr. Alderman EVANS said, with regard to Mr. Mason's Motion, however much he approved of it, he could not con sider it as anything else but child's play with parliament. But as the question of removing any existing obstacle out of the way of the freemen that he was decidedly opposed to ; in the place of 20s he would put Ell) in their way if he could do it. Their admission under such circumstances was an anomaly; it was against the principle of the £lO franchise. And what were the merits of these freemen who were not able to keep house, and who incurred none of the direct taxes' borne by society? What were their merits? He did not wish to depreciate them lower than they were, but he could only conceive that a body of freemen who had not the right that otherb had by being £lO householders and the pay- Meat of rates—he could only conceive them as living with their relatives or in lodgings, and not qualified to exercise any judgment in the matter, or else he believed a large num ber h a d b een b y t h e i r own dissolute lives rendered incapable of keeping house or any of those establishments that would give them a legitimate right toovote. He could see no claim, no merit whatever on their part that they should be made a kind of electoral body at variance ,vlth the other institutions of the country and with the spirit of the reform bill, and to the injury 01 others who are not freemen, but are equally lia ble as themselves to be balloted into the militia, and have as much right to be called Englishmen as they have. Now un less they gave universal suffrage he could not conceive how they could give to freemen, with the least regard to justice and impartiality, any kind of facilities of that kind, and un questionably, if it were not founded in justice and propriety, It Was the last use they should make of the corporate revenue; for if they remitted the corporate revenue it was equal to g i ving it. Would one of those freemen if he got up in the world and became an exporter of salt relinquish the remission he had of the town dues? They (the freemen) had got advan tages that many would believe they had no right to, and they stye council) would give them more and overlook the great Mass who were not freemen, and had no vote whatever. It was npomsibl econs i s t en tl y to give to one . without giving totheother . And what was ask e d for them ? £l, not more. It was not, looking at the average of life, more than Is. a-year. While others had their 1.:25 and £3O to pay, this man got off with a shilling. It was said, that it would raise their characters; that if they were not assisted, they had great difficulty in P aying the admission. He was at a loss to know, when they coked at the freemen, who were principally mechanics, how they could not raise once in their lives the sum of £l. Look ing at that class, the lower they went, the more dependent they found them, and the more venality there unquestionably w „_ 6ll . Now, in place of raising the characters of the freemen, the corporation became a party to bribe them; they supplied 44 , and the other was supplied by the wealthy men who naight, on the one or the oth e r side like to give it ; but the i i reenian would never be content with that El, he would want something after that. He said, " ou have given me my nto, but what will you th ive me fu y r myself." (A laugh.) Lookin g at the late conduct of the conservative leaders—let litre be no alarm ab o ut thi s , h e w a s not going into this—in the Lords, and even in the House of Commons, he was not at' all surprised that they should wish to give the freemen ever, thing, because they had had the practical experience of them. But cou ld any thi ng b e more at var i ance t o th e received principles of the conservative interest in England, : t hat men who had nothing, who owned nothing, should have . i _vnte at all ? Where was their stake in the country ? Ought ey not to give to property its due influence ? Yes, it was to Rive property an undu e influence, to give it to those who could V u it to enlist on e ith er s id e , th e v il e , f or p art y p ur p oses . ' vr,•he did not scruple to say, if they examined into that P o rtion t of the freem e n w h o were no t h ouse h o ld ers an d had °1 a right to vo t e i n th e di rec t manner, t h at th ey mus t b e r e duced to ack now l e d ge th a t th e y were p rec i se ly t h a t c l as s that, if any were to be excluded from the right of voting, they t e_re e they. Eith er th e i r you th or t h e i r di sso l ute habits—fin in ,r was no other w a y of acc o un ti ng f or th e ir not having an u opendence which would rank them like citizens. He Owed to oth ers or b y w h at t h ey ( t h e f reemen ) c l a i me d them i;tavcr see how fa r th e y cou ld b e j us tifi e d in giving them any other then f acility. But he put it to gentlemen what was this r then a degree? Would they they introduce them to t ` o lie Municipal voting? It was all a degree of the same kind e i l gl i v ,e them legislation in local matters without any respon- It* c4 ;7ln 1-. But if they began us with this_, how were they to resist pi is4 after that of household suffrage for municipal pu t - Mi. I , "m u BOLTON.—Have you concluded with any tely ? • Ai - , derman EVANS.-1 oppose the thing altogether. tvai',Onncilior BorsroN quite concurred in what Mr. Ald. Priyil o 7d said. He had ever been opposed to exclusive Politi c ; le whether in matters of opinion as to religion or to th e b e t 'r why one party in the country should be prejudiced the ann tle rt of another, and he never could discover why renc es " s r h e o n t lres of such . men as the Tobins and the Law tlPPrentie rl have privileges that were withheld from the no thou es of the Bibbys and the Brocklebanks and others; ~g ht it was an exceedingly unwarrantable and unjust Besides if it were just to give it to a class of per ho were the accidental sons and apprentices of free 11▪ 1 , what would it l ea d to? I t wou ld lea d to un i versa l suffrage, an d h e was not an advocate for universal suffrage. He thought the right of voting very fairly laid on persons who occupied houses in market towns and paid rates and taxes 'These men had a clear int erest in the good government 'anti who being of the coun t ry. And howwenrl ti were e parties that advocated these excl us i ve privileges , sell the electors like cattle a t t h e market. . : I'll ' e n s s•emel that would sell very expensive law appointment connected with thafeouneil, and therefore it was right that they should take legal fees, for if those were abolished they might also go to the Court of Re &uests and abolish the fees on the taking out of summonses, c. He would again ask on what ground would they take that class of persons under their protection, and add to the privileges which it was conceived they already unjustly pos sessed? He (Mr. Bolton) was a householder, and he would stick to his order, conce:v ng it to be that order which ought to hare all the privileges. Mr. Councillor SHAND would not trouble the council with many remarks, for he must say he liked neither of the mo tions. Perhaps it was a mistake of the last speaker in stating that the " accidental children," and not the legal children, of freemen, were freemen. (Laughter.) He had generally found that he had a great deal of trouble in getting his chil dren the freedom. (Loud laughter.) He would move that the original motion be adhered to as an amendment. Ile conceived the registration shilling to be totally a national thing, with which they had nothing to do. Mr. Co unc ill or B OLTON b egge d to exp l a i n. H e did not think he said the accidental children. He meant to say the children who were accidentally the sons of freemen. (Con tinued laughter.) Mr. Alderman SHiEL—There is no accident in it. (Much l aughter.) Mr. Councillor W. CURRIE concurred with his friend Mr. Shand in not liking either motion or amendment, nor yet the ?righted motion; he would vote against all three. Rethought * would be a most injudicious thing, after the intimation e Mayor gave them at the comtnencement of the discus !tan, that now tying_ their hands to int roduee some clause • 14 ! 0 some future bill—a clause which had nothing to do with that bill; would be a most unwise proceeding. The t awn -clerk would tell them that the introduction of ex traneous matter into a bill was fatal to the bill itself. He th erefore did say, that it would not be the part of prudent te e i, - , - -of men who knew somethin g o f parliamentary pro , el 'lugs, to p , ass a resolution whi c h an y f u t ure counc il might scind, lede themsel toe on of a "'Le that to in p to a g ny future ves bill. t he intr should t therefore clause vote tgainst it. But now with respect to the freemen themselves did not believe that this £1 was a matter of much object. hj,believed, to use an offensive term, that this matter was ts i l bugbear" on this occasion. He did not think that the freemen who were worth considering, considered the at all,. He did think that young men, the very first thing tae would do, would be by prudence and an abstaining front 47' alehouse to save such a sum as to enable them to claim the Privilege. He believed that all the young freemen in wool to wn who were worth caring about—that every young who was o f i n d e p en d e nt character and of moral w or th, hl make the obtaining of that privilege the dearest object be had, and would sacrifice the alehouse and the theatre, HH . " every thing else, in order to obtain that right. (Hear.) e thought he should do more for the independence of the i ll eisttn by letting him see, that if he would be free he must ~..e_Pnd on himself; and he thought the charge was a most iZterate charge; and that to take it off would be to die ad t he equilibrium of the householders and freemen, to the vantag e of the latter. He thought they should not do isnetr dutsr in a nd sssig the motion, both for the sake of the therefore The the freemen themselves, and he should •Irlifenre vote against all the motions. Bathe row N-cLERK said he must state. from the experience tet.last session, that the mayor was right in what he had , and if new matter were introduced into bills, the course the parliamentary officers took was to consider such new u pon s ubiect as a new bill altogether, and charge their fees W hit it accordiugly. It was also likely that the bill into 'eh th e additional clause might be introduced would be delayed by the b meetings in committees that would be required. and „ n _l n o ability was that the success of the bill itself would be f nr u gered. If, therefore, they intended to go to parliament that hi ll purpose, m ake it a dis tinct he would recommend them to the expense of which would be £250. ne nar. Uo GLAN said although the remarks made by Mr Cur e on the danger of clogging a bill with such a clause were very f orm • d should 1 able, he did not allow them to influence him, Ile b4-B,:wnote against the measure on the broad and extended ,otlaa an d the principle of correct Reform, and he could moment recognise the claims of a body of men who had beren absolutely foisted on the reformers of this country tithsat.h.e..p:ice paid for the reform bill. Without their agreeing to be e ' n t r n a.n r e efo rm bill, with all its advantages,would never have claim to , the ld fle felt, therefore, that these men had no just everrightshave and privileges they now enjoyed, and when he s ho uld pyiyiteges,it the opportunity to deprive them of those would be his duty to assist matrons that object. He flirt not object to them because as some had stated, they were dissolute corrupt, and immoral. He regretted the cor n] , Pt state of that_ body; but he must say of them that any class of m w e i n th pl a a i c m i la in r a ( s i imilar situation, with similar temp endu2i;lion, with the incentives which were used to corruu t a acted precisely as the y have a'cletencete• their minds'would have _ they were nut more cor rupt thin other bodies of men would be under the same treat- Mont. Neither did he oppose theta because they in general (the o pposed • to reform, for if they cou l d b e won over to them were reformers) he would still oppose them, " Res which t he y possesse d be c a use the Pri the same rank int hesame a ve l •hich n ,. as had been community,vvre not enjoyed by others of t he by Alder. Evans, was iian l i v i . av ui n h g ought not to exist in a free country, Vie opposed the Y ir what the "me class did not possess, fi om the accidental circumstance th a. Ley were children of parents who possessed that which re . fleeted h e _ no h onour upon them, and nothing but the right of vo l i n i ng. He could not consider them butes a portion of the • - oili!e that had the dangerous privele_ge of universal suffrage olds its WoTPt PoqSereaCe; Corthetnetal with it. If universal Ob, surely, we are suffrage were conceeded to the great mass of the community it would have this good, that the great mass of persons en trusted with the right of voting would be so great that no purse could reach them, so that they might to a great extent cease to be corrupt. But the class of freemen was to a great extent exposed to much greater temptations. They were precisely of the rank and situation in life of those who would be benefitted by universal suffrage, with the evil of their numbers being numerically small, exposing them more par ticularly to temptation, and to be laid hold of for electioneer ing purposes • for he was sorry to say they most readily lent their aid to whichever party would give the highest sum. He opposed them as a body ; lie could not recognise them in the state; they had no right to the privileges they enjoyed, and yet they came to claim equality—to be of the same rank as those whom the legistature had invested with the right of voting—that class which paid the taxes, had a house over their heads, an interest in the state, and contributed towards its support. If the persons now seeking exemption from the payment of the admission, &c., had really the laudable desire to obtain enfranchisement, let them lay up against a rainy day. But he knew many who were not entitled to enfran chisement because they were not apprenticed to freemen, who felt hurt, acid justly so, that a portion of the workmen of the same shop had privileges that they could not fairly claim, and yet those that were excluded were better members of society in general. Unless then they would agree to the principle of universal suffrage, which he thought, in the pre sent state of society, an evil, he could not recognise that body of men, and therefore he should oppose the motion. Mr. Wool) inquired whether it was not true that they were not at liberty to reduce the tolls or town dues if com plained of, without the consent of the creditors of the cor poration ? The Tovvre-cLERK said the tolls of the borough could not be reduced without the consent of a majority- of the bondholders or the corporation. Mr. Woou resumed.--But if a memorial from a particular body of merchants was presented, praying for their reduction, it would be attended to, while here the petition of a body of men was disregarded because they happened to be the free men of Liverpool, and, were not in good odour in that room. Mr. Alderman Evans had designated them as mere mechan ics, and as men of dissolute habits; he (Mr. Wood) had hail a good deal to do with electioneering matters, and he had always found the lower class of freemen to be the most inde pendent in their character.—(Laughter.) —And he never gave a bribe, and never was asked for one by the lower class of freemen in Liverpool, and that was saying a great deal.— (Much laughter.) If they would refer back to the disgrace ful election of Ewart and Denison, they would find that the freemen that got the largest bribes were householders, paying rents of £3O, £4O, £5O, £6O, and £7O a-year, while the poor man only got his £2. He thought the character given of the freemen in that room wire not what they deserved. He was a freeman himself, and he should always vote as a freeman, and not as a householder. Mr. SHEIL was exceedingly happy to hear that Lord Shaftesbury had come to so wise a decision as to strike out clauses introduced into bills different to the objects of the bills. It was a wise conclusion, though come to at rather a late period, but in that he resembled some gentlemen in that room who advocated that motion. It was very singular that the late corporation who were not required to go to any other power to reduce the fees than themselves, that by them the admission was not reduced; it was very singular when the new corporation had come in, or when they were about to come in. that the old corporation were so exceedingly gene rous in giving away that which did not belong to them, al though for a long period they had been in the habit of consi dering it as their own property. Now, he was inclined to think the question was not then brought forward on its own merits, for it was the custom with certain gentlemen to have some particular question for agitation in the months of Au gust or September, and he supposed this question of the free men was to be the cheval de bataille of present year. (" No, no.") It was a strong one. The last gentleman who had spoken said the freemen were the most independent set of men, while the first gentleman began by advocating the cause of those very humble in life, and of limited means, and went on to advocate the reduction to a more equitable standard, his object being to remove them from the degrading necessity of obtaining by others the payment of the 20s. fee. Now, look at the independent men of the last speaker, by the first speaker placed in the degrading position of which he had spoken; and yet they were called upon to do more fur these men—to grant without the fees exemption from the payment of town dues and market tolls, all which they could obtain for twenty shillings—men who, nevertheless, were quite willing to place themselves in that " degrading situation." They were called upon not to exercise a right in possession, but to go and ask parliament to give them a certain act : but before they' did that they should have a strong case to war rant them in doing it, and no one would say that any case had been made out at all to warrant the council in taking a single step for the purpose of the motion of Mr. Smith. He did not think it necessary to take up much of the state ment of Mr Walmsley, that 120 persons were excluded from the register, by not paying the registration fee of one shilling. lie thought there must be a gross neglect somewhere, if not a gross dereliction of duty. lie spoke in the presence of the town-clerk when he stated his opinion that the law made no distinction between the one shilling and the poor-rates, and if any officer had made any distinction it was a gross violation of law, and that the council, as the protector of the public rights, should look into, and have the man punished who had been guilty of such a dereliction of duty. Mr. WoolootinslT, in allusion to the observation of Mr. Wood, that the freemen were in bad odour in that room, said, he wondered they had now got into such good odour with a certain party, for no effort was made to reduce the fee during the existence of the old corporation, when the free men had £1 to pay besides that from which they now sought exemption. He further observed that, as the introduction of a clause as desired into some bill might endanger that bill itself', he thought it would be better to defer the motion until some occasion arose, or some new bill was in project to which it might be attached ? (" No.") Mr. Councillor G. H. LAWRENCE did not wish it to go forth to the public that the parish officers were guilty of gross and reprehensible conduct, because certain parties had not paid the registration shilling. The parish officers could not make them pay it. if they did not choose to pay it. Mr. Alderman SnElf. begged to ask the 'town-clerk if any person had any right to mae any distinction between the shillin g and the poor-rates? TheMavoit explained, that the statement was, that the registration shilling had not been put in the tax bill. Mr. Ald. Sums said that made his case much stronger. Mr. councillor H. LAweßecE.—Why it is actually print ed in the bill. The TowN-CLERK said the course of the collector would be to demand one debt like the other : both were debts to the parish ! It was stated that in that particular ward the bill did not contain the demand of the shilling; why he did not know. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said, though it was a late hour of the day, and the subject had been amply discussed already, yet the interest he felt in that question was so great that he could not consent to give a silent vote. He regarded it as a question of not merely local interest, for it involved a great principle. He could not persuade himself to view this question in the narrow view in which it had been presented by the gentleman who moved the proposition ; fur it was not merely a qnestion of finance—a question whether 20s. should be paid to the borough fund, for if that were the only interest that the question possessed it would not be worth a moment's discussion. But he might remark on that view of the subject, taking that alone—that the householder, in older to obtain his vote, must occupy premises at least of the value of £lO year rent, when they considered that in addition he must pay rates and taxes and Is. every year to time end of his life, for being registered, fur which the freeman o re n em e a x n ,e s d vas calledu p e on ab to lifete7lrYo'ss v hardship of the the freemen was lipsahym2oeis,.t,ontcoetianlkhis h of absurd. But lie disregard e d that. The real of house sr question was, should they or should they no t, as a council, indicate and de clare their approvalga.nd om i c fu p ,e l ‘ oc r e e n in t i a t c te qtriescence in the free man's right ga o t f l: itin e o mthe enjoym en t. of freedom, d the p t a h y e t y n e w n o t a o l d f the m iee an a ' n s dare their approval of that mode of voting, and give it as their public opinion that i n th e es ti mat i on of the council that kind of franchise was wis e an d politic, and calculated to pro mote the true interests of th e conu e nun y. The reform bill was introduced to parliament fur the express purpose of giving to property, as property, throughout the empire Its proper degree of influence and authority in the ma nagement of the affairs of the nation. With that view was a provision made calculated to give to the 1 1.0 house holder that power which arises out of the franchise. It was part of the original bill brought in by Lord John Russell, that the freemen's rights to vote should come to a speedy de termination; the persons in possession of the franchise by freedom were to continue to retain it to the end of their lives, but there were to be no new freedom. Whether the inchoate tights were retained, he could not tell, but the reform bill was intended to put an extinguisher on the right of voting of freemen, and to establish one uniform, steady qualification. That consisted of the payment of the rent and taxes of premises of £lO a year value and one shilling a year to liquidate the expense of the registration. They were aware that the bill was thrown out of parliament on the mo tion of a celebrated individual, and perhaps that motion was one of the most celebrated acts of his life—he meant General Gascoigne, who then represented this town. An appeal was in consequence made to the country- at large, and when par liament again assembled it was found necessary that the freemen's right of voting, instead of being brought to a speedy extinction, should be perpetuated as a matter of com promise, to secure the support or prevent the opposition of some of the tories in the commons and the lords. The per petuation of the freemen's votes was the price paid for the reform bill, and the elections which have taken place since the reform bill came into operation, have afforded unanswer able proof that the tories were wise in their generation when they continued the freemen's right to vote. Look at those towns where they had not the light of voting. There were towns enfranchised by the reform bill in England returning 64 members. The boroughs in Scotland might be consi dered as standing in this respect in the same condition as the newly enfranchised townsin England—that is, they were free from any contamination of any right of voting. They consisted of a pure household constituency of persons that had a stake and interest in the welfare of the nation—and what was the consequence? Why, of those 86 members 64 or 65 were reformers, or four to one liberals returned by free constituencies; and if they extended their inquiry to the kingdom at large, this fact came out, that those places, for the most part, where the corrupt constituencies were retained by the reform bill—the potwalloppers and scot and lot voters —as distinguished from the individuals enfranchised by the new bill—the great majority of tot y members of the House of Commons at the present moment were sitting there in despite of the household constituency. (Dear.) It would trot become him at that late hour to occupy much more of their time, but the subject was an extremely interesting and important one. It had been said that such a constituency as that of which he had been speaking was venal and depen dent from its very position ; and again, it had been said that it might to be retained to give to property its proper influence in the management of the affairs of the country. There was a falsity in this. The great object of the R e form Bill was to restore, to purify, to give to property its becoming influence. Property ought to have its influence. It was a a principle of the Whig government that property should have its influence; nay, more, it was impossible to deprive it of it. It was one of those principles which was imposed on human beings by the great artificer of society that property should have its influence. It never was the wish of the re form party to deprive property of its influence. But the question which they had to consider was this—should they sanction a measureevhich would not give property its legiti mate, but lay an arrangement—the tendency of which was to introduce venal and dependent voters—an undue and im proper influence. They were told that the influence of pro perty was that which the system he deprecated promoted. Now look at county elections: There was in the - country an analagous class of voters—the £5O. tenant.; at will. They were a dependent class at the disposal of time owners of the sail, merely men of straw. Now in the county constituency there were men of that sort, and mark the result. With the manufacturer there was in fact little or no power at all in the decision of the county elections—he had no power contrasted with the country squire, with perhaps his £2OOO. a year, who was not always of the most intelligent class of gentlemen, while the merchant, possessed perhaps of his £100,0004 and deeply interested in the welfare of the country, was limited to a single vote. It was therefore property not as property, but a particular kind of property, that directed those venal dependent voters. (Hear, hear.) And it was beyond all question that men who derived most advantage from the power given to themselves by that class of men were those who least regarded the dictates of honour. and principle, and conscience in their conduct towards others. It was no slan der to say that the landlords controlled the vote of the tenant, for the leading publications of the tories avow it. The Quarterly Review, amongst others, admits that the landlord has a right to coerce the tenant, but the whip party more or less repudiates it. But why was it that this town did not express in the House of Commons the same sentiments as in that room? Why bad they sent two tories to the House of Commons, while a large majority of that room were of con trary opinions? Why, because they had retained those corrupt freemen who were able to put down the pldia good sense and enlightened principles of the constituency of this town. (Hear, hear.) He would not detain them much longer, but he thought both motions before the council were objectionable, and—he begged Mr. Mason's pardon—were extremely nonsensical—(laughter)—and would only cause them to be laughed at. (Mr. CURRIE.—To be sure.) He insist confess he thought the rate-paying clauses ought to be retained to check the constituency of the empire, and in large towns, with the working of the reform bill, they might get au admirable constituency to whom might safely be left the great powers of the franchise. But he regretted that he was obliged to feel with Mr. Coglan, that with the present scale of education he could not advocate a more extended franchise. If they were to break up the rate-paying clauses they would gain nothing by it, and he hoped the council would reject all the motions offered for their adoption. One word more and he had done. They must have observed the commotion excited throughout the country by immense as semblages, to which were delivered monstrous speeches on universal suffrage, annual parliaments, and he did not know what absurdities besides : great excitement had been occa sioned; and every man who regarded his country's welfare must feel alarmed at those exhibitions, and the deplorable ignorance there manifested. But to what were they at tributable ? Why to the disappointment of the hopes and expectations which the Reformed Parliament had occasioned. And why had they been disappointed ? Why the reason was obvious. It was as clear as daylight. They had re tained to the freemen the right of voting in the towns, and they had established the £5O tenants at will in the counties-- corrupt constituencies which had been forced upon mi nisters by the tories, and by whose aid the tories obstructed the ministers in their course of legislation. It was those constituencies that were the great source of dissatisfaction. they were men to be bought—men who represented not their own opinions, but the opinions of others, who played them like counters—those were the men that excited the general dissatisfaction—that prevented the progress of reform, and perpetuated the contentions of Ireland, and enabled the tory party to ride rampant over the rights and liberties of the people. (Hear.) But the time was coming, and not far distant,when throughout the country to remove these clauses would be made a grand movement, and if they were re - moved, he had no doubt of the good and satisfactory woik iug of the reform bill i❑ all its parts, and of the enactment of wise and prudent legislative measures. Establish one uniform steady constituency—men of property,lwho had a stake in the country, who would vote from the dictates of their consciences, and not be bought and sold like cattle in the market, as too many of the freemen were, and the ex isting evils would be remedied. With the sentiments he had expressed, he was therefore prepared to oppose the motions which had been made, and he called upon the council to do so too. Mr. Councillor SMITH rose to reply. The MAYOR said Mr. Smith had a right to reply on every amendment. Mr. Alderman ROBINSON.—AII we hope for is that he will not exercise that right. Mr. Councillor SMITH said Mr. Robinson was pleased to be very facetious. At this late hour of the day he should not trouble the council with many observations. H e merely wished to observe that Mr. Mason had called his (Mr. Smith's) mo tion, a "compound" one; it must be very evident to every one in the council that his (Mr. Mason's) was a very simple one to get rid of it altogether. Much had been said against the old corporation, but not a single argument had been ad vanced to prove that a more liberal line of policy in the new corporation would not be advisable. Mr. Currie had called the motion a " bug-bear ;" he (Mr. Smith) thought he could hardly have forgot the memorial presented by the freemen, which had been the cause of his bringing forward the motion. Mr. Shiel being at a loss to find any argument took up one of his own, that this motion was to get up a case against the Ist of November for electioneering purposes. Now it unfor tunately happened to the individuals whose cause he (Mr. Smith) was advocating, that they were not municipal electors at all; and so much for his argument. Mr. Councillor CURRIE.-1 said that the sum of £1 was made into a great bug-bear. The Ma volt then divided the council on the various amend ments, beginning with Mr. Mason's, which was lost by a majority of 39 to 4.—Majority, 35. The division was as follows: — For the amendment—Messrs. Mellor, Morecroft, Higgins, and Mason. ' Against the amendment—Messrs. J. Holmes, C. Logan, R. Houghton, Thornhill, E. Harvey, W. Shand, W. Preston, C. Rawdon, Holmes, Walmsley. Bolton, C. Birch, J. Wooll right, Bright, H. Hornby, J. Cooper, J. N. Wood, Lassell, Blackburn, Coglan, E. Segar, J. Smith, G. H. Lawrence, Cropper, jun., F. Jordan, Currie, Ramsden, Duncan ; and Aldermen Shiel, Booth, Benn, Leathom, C. H. Jones, Evans, T. Holt, Bulley, W. P. Fretne, Barclay, Robinson, and the ' Mayor. Mr. SHAND then rose and said, after what they had heard respecting the probable consequences of introducing a clause into an act of parliament, it would be ridiculous to seek to attain their object by such a step; he would, therefore, move that the Town-clerk be directed to prepare a bill for the abolishing of the fee on the admission of freemen, and that the necessary steps be taken to secure its passing into an act. Mr COOPER seconded the resolution, which was lost on a division by a majority of 38 to 5. The division was as follows : For the amendment—Messrs. Houghton, Shand, Cooper, J. N. Wood, and G. H. Lawrence. Against the amendment—Messrs. J. Holmes, C. Logan, E. Harvey, W. Preston, C. Rawdon, H. Holmes, J. Mellor, J. Walinsley, Bolton, Birch,! Wollright, Bright, Hornby, Lassell, Morecroft, Higgins, Blackburn, Coglan, Mason, E. Segar, J. Smith, Cropper, Jordan, Currie, Ramsden, Dun can ; and Aldermen Shiel, Booth, Brown, Leathom, Jones, Evans, Holt, Bulley, Freme, Barclay, Robinson, and the Mayor. The Mayon then put the original motion, which was also lost by a majority of 36 to 7. The following was the division : For the motion--Messrs. J. Holmes, Houghton, H. Holmes, Wahnsley, Birch, Higgins, and J. Smith. Against the motion—Messrs. Logan. Harvey, Shand, Preston. Rawdon, Mellor, Bolton, Woollright, Bright, Hornby, Cooper, Wood, Lassa, Morecroft, Blackburn, Coglan, Mason, Segar, G. H. Lawrence, Cropper, Jordan, Currie, Ramsden, and Duncan; Aldermen Shed, Booth, Brown, Leathom, Jones, Evans, Holt, Bulley, Freme, Barclay, and Robinson ; and the mayor, The council was then adjourned to the first Wednesday in the next month. THE FLORAL SHOW AT THE BOTANIC GARDEN. On Wednesday the second floral show of the season took lace at the Botanic Garden. The weather was most de- lightful, and the consequence was a very full and fashionable attendance of visitors. The flower show, as on former occa sions, was held under a long marquee at the top of the garden, under which were long tables bearing the various floral and horticultural productions of the season. We cannot praise the flower show for it was meagre to a degree. With the ex ception of a few heaths, some very splendid dahlias, and a few pans of pansies, there were positively no flowers remain ing worth looking at. There were several fine herbaceous plants, brought out of the greenhouse, exhibited. The fruits. however, were very beautiful in appearance, and we have no doubt equally excellent in taste. The grapes exhibited were exceedingly fine. Several baskets containing selections of fruits, pears, plums, peaches, apricots, nectarines, &c. were also very beautiful and gave forth a delicious fragrance. The show of pines was only poor. Stubbs' harmonic band was in attendance and played a number of fine airs. The gaily dressed throng, the playing fountain, the variegated scene of shrubs and flowers, and water and prim parterre; the mellowed music, and the joy inspiring beams of an autumnal sun, made up for the meagre exhibition of flowers, and rendered the promenade of the ex tensive garden delightful. The shrubs in the garden grow but slowly, and still have a very stunted appearance, though the nakedness which was before observable is now much ob viated by thick underwood. The following is a list of the prizes awarded : The nurseryman's pan of Dahlias, containing 30 blooms, Do. do. do. 15 do. Do. do. do. JO do. Do. do. do. 5 do. w ere all awarded to Mr. Thomas Davies, of Wavertree. Amateurs' pan of 12 blooms, Mr. Dunking. Do. 9 do. R. W. Preston, Esq. Do. 6 do. Mr. Thos Harrison. Do. 4 do. R. W. Preston, Esq. The best four stove or greenhouse plants :—Cattleya Loddi gesii, Cattleya Harrisonii, Pholidata undulata, and Loran• thus paricilicus, from the Calcutta Botanic Garden, awarded to the Earl of Derby. Second best four stove or greenhouse plants :—Rhodochi ton votubilis, Fuschia nova, Elichrysum prolifrum, and As clipias salicifolia. awarded to Mrs. Cropper, Third best four stove or greenhouse plants :—Erica epis tomia, Erica horricana, Authocersis viscosa, Kolosanthes coscinea, awarded to the Earl of Derby. Fourth best four stove or greenhouse plants :—Maxillaria rufescens, lnscriptum maximum, Gladiolus latiensis, and Crinum Americanum, awarded to the Earl of Derby. The best two stove or greenhouse plants:—Epidendrum novo, and Pinces euphrosvne, awarded to the Earl of Derby. _ Second best two stove or greenhouse plants :—Antholyza tEthiopica, and Podalyria tyraxcifolia, awarded to Mrs. Cropper. Third best two stove or greenhouse plants :—Galardia pieta, and Verbena Tweediana, awarded to Mrs. Cropper. The best Orchidaceous plant :—CynochisLodigisii, awarded to Charles Horsfall. Esq. Second best ditto :—Cymbidium aloefolium, awarded to William Smith, Esq. Third best ditto :—Sercanthus paniculatus, awarded to Charles Horsfall, Esq. Fourth best ditto :—Eulophia Guinensis, awarded to Chas. Horsfall, Esq. Best basket of Plants, the Earl of Derby. Second ditto. Isaac Hadwen, Esq. Third ditto, Mrs. Cropper. Best basket of cut Flowers, B. W. Preston, Esq. Second ditto, the Earl of Derby. Third ditto, Hugh Jones, Esq. Best pan of Heartsease, Hugh Jones, Esq. Second ditto, Henry Moss, Esq. Best basket of Vegetables, C. S. Parker, Esq. Second ditto, Thomas Walker. Third ditto, Mrs. Cropper. Fourth ditto, Win. Smith, Esq. The following prizes, given by the Mayor of Liverpool, as follows: The best basket of Fruit, Hugh Jones, Esq. Second ditto, Mrs. Cropper. Third ditto, Wm. Smith, Esq. The best Pines, John Ridgway, Esq. The best Grapes, John Moss, Esq. The best Melons, W. H. Goore. EXtOA PRIZES. Rodri;inisa secunda, Charles Horsfall, Esq. A collection of cape Orchidaceous plants, Mr. Skirving, Coxcombs, Wm. Smith, Esq. Fuschia Fulgens, Mr. Skirving. Caledonia Plums, John Moss, Esg. Vegetable Marrow•, Richard Rathbone, Esq, Basket of Plants, Thomas Bold, Esq. Fairichilds Nectarine, Richard Willis, Esq. Pan of Dahlias, Mrs. Cropper. Ditto ditto, Mr. Thomas Harrison. CURIOUS CONFESSION.—In the notice to correspondents in Bentley this month, we find the following odd announce ment—" They lie at our publishers." ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS.—These gardens were very well and fashionably attended on Tuesday evening, the entertain ments went off with great eclat. From the fineness of the weather the visitors were enabled to enjoy to the fullest ex tent the various novelties prepared for their amusement. PA 12 IC GA 'FE REGATTA.—The spirited gentlemen who have undertaken to promote this regatta, seem resolved to spare neither trouble or expense in rendering it worthy of every lover of aquatic rivalry. Preparations are already making by the owners of several crack gigs in Chester for a start to this delightful wateriru.r place. The regatta is to " come off" on Monday next, and we hear that our esteemed friend, E. Watson Lloyd, Esq., will be commodore on the occasion. One better qualified to fill the situation could not have been chosen.—Chester Gazette. THE BOROUGH (REGISTRATION. - By an examination of the lists to be submitted to the revising barristers, and which were appended to the doors of the places of public worship on Sun day, in compliance with the act of parliament, we find them to stand thus:— Radical objections to housekeepers .. 272 Ditto ditto to freemen.. 153 Radical claims. 26 Conservative objections to housekeepers .... 259 Ditto ditto to freemen . Conservative claims.,, 259 COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE AND MONEY MARKET. WEDNESDAY, TWELVE O'CLOCK. The shutting of the Three and Three-and-a-Half per Cent. Reduced and Bank Stuck previous to the payment of the dividends, had no material effect on the British market yes terday, as litte business Was doing. Consols closed at 94N for Money, and 944 for the Account; opened this morning at NI Money, and 944 Account. Exchequer Bills are 73 pm.; India Bonds, 72 74 pm. ; Bank Stock, 2082; India. Stock, 2041 2054. In the Foreign market, Spanish Active are 192 4; Portuguese, 354 36, Three per Cents. 234 ; Brazilian, 83 1 84; Mexican, 231- 24; Dutch Two-and-a-Half: per Cents., 53% %. HALF-PAST ONE. The Brilliant has arrived at Liverpool from Jamaica. N letters or papers have as yet been received, but: it is generally believed that she sailed on the Ist of August. Some anxiety prevails to ascertain m what manner the above day passed off. _ . _ The Batavier has arrived, with Dutch papers of the 4th of September. Latest prices :—Two-and-a-Half per Cents., 53%; Five per Cents., 1018. The Consol market continues firm at 944 for the Account, and 941 for Money ; Exchequer Bills, 71 73; Itr.dia Bonds, 74; Bank Stock, shut. In the Foreign market an improve ment has taken place in Portuguese, 35 364; do. Three per. Cents., 23%; Spanish Active, 191 4; Brazi!lian, 81; Mexican, 232 24; Columbian, 254 %; Dutch Two-and-- a-Half per Cents., 53% QUARTER BEFORE r.HREE. Consols for the Account, 9-11 (From the Times.) TUESDAY EVENING. By the advices from Ilamburgh the price of gold is 43t; per mark, which, at the English Mint price of £3 17s_ 101-d. the ounce for standard gold, gives an exchange of 13-A, and the exchange at Hamburg on London at short being 13.9, it follows that gold is 0.58 per cent. dearer at Hamb - urgb. than in London. The premium on gold at Paris is 71 per mille, whicih, at the English Mint price of £3 17s. laid. the ounce for stan dard gold, gives an exchange of 25. 332, and the exchange at Paris on London at short being 25. 42 it' follows that gold is 0.36 per cent. lower at Paris than in London. The course of exchange at New York on London is 1081 per cent., and the par of exchange between England and. America being 109.23-40 per cent., it follows that the ex change is 1.32 per cent. against England. (From the official list, containing the business actually transacted.) BRITISH FUNDS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Bank Stock, India Stock, 3 per Ct. Red., Shut India Bonds, 74 pm 3 per Ct. Con., 94 41- South Sea Stock, 3% per Ct. An ns. 1818, Consols for Acct., 94 1 3y, per Ct. Red., Shut £lOOO Ex. Bills, 71 3 pm New 3)6 per Cents., 1011 $ £5OO do. 72 4pm Long Ans. 1860, Shut Small do. 72. 4pm Ditto, 30 yrs. 1859, 15i Ditto Commercial, 8 pm Ditto, 30 yrs. 1860, 151 Ditto 21d., S HA (The quotations give the actu premium or Colombian, 31 Candonga, Great Western, London & Brighton, 8 1 London & Birmingham, 168 Birmingham a Shares, 28 London and Blackwall, London and Greenwich, London & Southampton, 481 Manchester and Leeds, RES. [al price, without reference to r discount.) London and Croydon Trunk, 16 Asphalte, - United States, 11 Bahia Steam, British N. American Bank, 271 Colonial Bank, 28 Colonial Scrip, 28.1 National Bank of Ireland, 16 North Midland, THEATRE-ROYAL, LIVERPOOL, FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. F. VINING. Second Week of Mr. HARLEY. Fifth Night of Mr. and Mrs. KEELEY, whoire engaged. for a Fortnight. Third Week of Mr. F. VINING. 9 - 1111 S present FRIDAY, Sept. 7, 1838, wi be performed, the popular, interesting Drama of THE RENT DAY.• Bullfrog (first time here)..Mr. Harley, as originally-per formed by him in London. Martin Heywood Mr. F. Vining. Polly Briggs Mrs: Keeley. In the course of the Play, Mrs. Keeley will sing " Oh, dear, how 1 long to be Married ; or, Mr. and Mrs. Slug." Written by the late Isaac Pocock, Esq. At the end of the Play, Mr. Harley will sing " The Hu mours of a Playhouse. After which, the Musical Drama called THE SWISS COTTAGE; OR, WHY DON'T YOU MARRY? Natz 'Fleck Mr. Keeley. Max Mr. G. Horncastle. Lizette Gierstein....Mrs. Keeley. To conclude with the Farce (not acted here these ten years) called ANIMAL MAGNETISM. La Fleur. ...Mr. Harley. Doctor Mr. Baker. Marquis ....Mr. F. Vining. Lisette Mrs. Clarke. Jeffery Mr. Keeley. Constance. Mrs. Tellet. On SATURDAY, the Comedy of SHE STOOPS TO CONQUER. Young Marlow, Mr. F. Vining • Tony Lumpkin, Mr. Harley; Miss Hardcastle, Miss Vaned.— After which (third time) the new Farce of the STRANGE GENTLEMAN. The Strange Gentleman, Mr. Harley.— To conclude with VALENTINE AND ORSON. TO CORRESPONDENTS " A Looker-on" should furnish us with his name and address. We cannot publish statements of the nature of those con tained in his letter on anonymous authority. "A Churchman," who dates from Prescot, has neglected to furnish us with his name. Our correspondents generally should be more careful in this particular. We are obliged to consign many valuable communications to the fire owing to this omission. The iLiberpool ,stanbarlY. FRIDAY MORNING, SEPT. 7, 1838. The Publication of the STANDARD commenced this morning at 5 o'clock. THE QUEEN' AND DR. HOOK.—The Vicar of Leeds has addressed the following letter to the Times:— " Vicarage, Leeds, Aug. 31. " Sir,—l hope you will permit me, through the medium of your paper, to contradict a report which you have recently copied from a provincial journal, that I have been pro hibited from preaching in the Chapel Royal. I have rd ceived no notice whatever to that effect, nor have I any reason to suppose that her Majesty is otherwise than pleased with what I stated in my sermon when I was last in waiting. I thought it necessary to publish that sermon, because many false reports of what had been advanced in it were spread abroad, and it is to these that allusion is made in the note which is prefixed to it.—l am, sir, your obedient servant, "W. F. HOOK, D.D. " Chaplain in Ordinary to her Majesty." This letter fully corroborates what has already ap peared in the columns of this paper. We do not be lieve any of the absurd rumours which have obtained currency in reference to Dr. Hook. There is nothing in the sermon which he delivered before the Queen that could possibly give offence to her Majesty, nor do we believe that any one about the Court would pre sume to dictate any proceedings against Dr. Hook— even if he had given offence to such parties. We are greatly mistaken if a sermon against the desecration of the Sabbath, of which the Court is so habitually guilty, would have given half as much pleasure as Dr. Hook's sermon on the church. THE MURDERER MONK AND HIS APOLOGIST, "THE ALBlON."—Assuredly the Popish faction of Ireland has attained a dark and perilous ascendancy, when we find among the press of England apologists and spe cial pleaders for every deed of blood-guiltiness and fe rocity committed by its outcast and crime-stained mem bers. Assuredly, the power and influence of the re volutionary policy of Papal Ireland has become as excessive as it is mischievous, when men can be found in this country base and criminal enough, in their party malignancy, to prostitute their profession and pervert their abilities by a dastard and execrable at tempt at palliating the enormities of every ruffian of the Emerald Isle, who calls them fellows in politics and religion. And yet, revolting as this may be to zeflect upon, it was nevertheless the conduct of the writer for the Albion, in his impression of Monday last. Instead of shunning the loathsome contamina tion of such a monster as Garrick,—instead of shrink ing from the unholy contact of affinity, in any way, with a wretch who only belongs to humanity to debase it,—instead of joining heartily and freely in the'ex pression of horror and indignation which should burst from the lips of any man who has one good or moral feeling at his heart,—and, above all, instead of, as the writer for an English journal, denouncing in terms of reprobation the ignorance and superstition on which ' the diabolical assassin traded ;—instead of all this, we have the advocate of the Radicals of Liverpool volun.. tarily shaking hands with a branded fellow across the channel, and, in his own proper person, becoming the gratuitous, unpaid, and thankless extenuator of as dark a crime as ever outraged the laws of God or man. There is no aggravation whatever in this. Let any one take up the broad sheet of the Albion of Monday last, and he will there see how assiduously the writer pesters himself in his singular and disgusting vocation. How diligently and laboriously he dabbles in the dirty work, and cares not how begrimed or befouled he may be by the operation, or how offensive from its impu.. rity, so he can give to his employers the filthy evi dence of his having done the job. He sifts the evi dence, analyses its character, comments upon its na ture, and leaves no quibble or artifice which his per verted ingenuity could suggest to extenuate and gloss over, for the acceptance of his readers, the crime at which they must involuntarily shudder. What an un worthy and, at the same time, degrading office this is for any man, but least of all, for a public journalist! How inconsistent with every high and honourable function of his calling ! How criminal in himself, and how unjust to society ! Instead of being " the great detector of public imposture," to descend to the meanness and malice of being its factious advocate — instead of vindicating the obligations of the moral and statute law, to deteriorate from the force of both by the subterfuge of dishonest reasoning —and, instead of strengthening and spreading the salutary power of warning and example, to fritter away the lesson of the one and the effect of the other by a poor and pitiful sophistry, which, " while he wrote it down," must have brought a blush into his cheek, if it were as callous as the knave whose cause he pleads—it is a crime against the standard morality of society ; and the reprobation of its insulted members—we care not what their creed, or class, or party may be—should follow the perpetrator. But, along with the fraudulent motive of deceiving the minds of his readers, the writer of the Albion has another object in his advocacy of the cause of the mur derer Garrick. He wants to show that we commented with an unwarrantable severity on the atrocious crime. We spare our readers the infliction of refuting seria tim his flimsy attempts at argument. 'We meet him openly upon this point. A verdict of the citizens of Dublin has pronounced the villain an unjustifiable ho micide—the warrant of the coroner has been issued for his apprehension—and thus, until he vindicates his innocence before his country, he stands registered in • the minds of every man, but his fellow-think ers, a MURDERER. We go no farther. 'We should think special pleading after this a mockery upon the common sense of the public. But the point upon which he erects the whole su perstructure of tirade against us is at once a lamenta ble proof of the weakness of his cause and the shal lowness of his judgment. Garrick, he says, was no monk,—he was an impostor,—the supposition was upon his own assertion. Be itso. We are glad of it; for it puts beyond question or cavil every syllable of what we gave expression to on the subject. We care not whether he wore cowl or bat, cassock or broad cloth—whether he were in or out of orders—so we have the fact, that he had power to palm himself upon the credulity of an ignorant and superstitious people as a religious character—as an individual who bound himself by vow and profession to the service and mi nistry of the Most High—and who, by the sanctity and veneration attached by a hood• winked people to such attributes, was enabled to drive a long and suc cessful trade of villany and fraud upon their gullibi- lity and blindness—so we have this fact, and we have all we contended for in our former article; and so far from having crippled us in the least by his industry in proving his " hail fellow, well met" Garrick an im postor, swindler, or what he wills, the more he strengthens and corroborates the very meaning and purpose of our observations. The deduction which we sought to draw from the act (and we sincerely thank the Albion for enabling us thus to recur to it) was as to the state of ignorance, superstition, and moral, as well as physical debase ment, of the majority of the people of Ireland, which thus/nakes them the prey and dupes of every unprin cipled knave who gets up a religious or political ar itifice with which to swindle them. From O'Connell down to the lowest village demagogue—from the in solent and imperious APHale down to the murderer Garrick—the staple commodity of their successful jugglery and craft lies in the mental prostration and imbecility of the people- It is thus that it matters not that we know O'Connell and his base swarm of agitators to be knaves and hypocrites, or that time has tested 1114 - lale and his crew to be impostors and va gabonds, neither the one nor the other of them would find their calling so profitable or so enduring as it is, unless the great body of the people, upon whom they feed and fatten, were so kept and tied down in the de basement of unqualified ignorance and vicious super stition as to leave them incapable of making one ex ertion to shake off the vermin. And another deduc• tion we sought to make was this—" the peril to the people of England of such neighbours and fellow-sub jects"—the danger of the spread of such pestilential notions of governments, and liberty, and right, which would grow up from such mushroom beds as those. We may be honest and virtuous; but if we live in communication with profligacy and vice, we hazard the name of the one and corrupt the- integrity of the other. We say again—no matter what may be the cha racters of the men who lead and mislead the misguid ed population of Ireland—the misery and the mischief of the thing is found in the intellectual darkness of the majority ; and no matter whether the imposition•dis play itself in sedition, treason, disaffection, and con spiracv, on the one band, or delusion, profligacy, and blood on the other, it arises from the same cause, and is perpetrated by the same means, while the eventual peril is not to that country but to this Ireland can scarce be worse, but England may. Let us attentively gaze upon the horizon of coming events, and we shall see enough there to startle and to warn us. THE MUNICIPAL ELECTION.—WC are glad to find that our conservative friends seem determined upon giving battle to their radical opponents in every ward in the town. This is as it should be. No advantage whatever shOuld be given at the approaching election to the faction that has so long domineered over the borough. We have had quite enough of radicalism-- enough to sicken the whole of the electors; and we are very much mistaken if this will not be proved to demonstration, when the first of November arrives. The conduct of the party now in power in this town has been such as to carry conviction to every sane mind of the folly of entrusting the management of our municipal affairs to a set of such desperate politi• cians. The spirit of exclusive partizanship which they have on every occasion manifested is calculated to produce a feeling of lasting disgust in the minds of all who are anxious to secure the benefit of good go vernment. Our radical contemporaries, of course, will stoutly maintain that " good government" is the object which their aspiring friends in the Town Coun cil have always kept in view. But is it so? • Have they been really anxious to study economy—that boasted virtue of all liberal politicians—in all their proceedings ? Let the sacrifices which they have made for the purpose of serving their adherents afford an answer. Have they evinced a spirit of impartia lity in their dealings ? Let their conduct on the school question—on the Church EndoWment question —on the Dock Trust question—and, indeed, on every other question, be taken as a reply. Three years have now elapsed since the self-styled liberals have "ruled the roast" in the Town Council; and we venture to ask what imaginable benefit has accrued to the town or port of Liverpool from their ascendancy ? Have they contributed, in any shape whatever, to increase the prosperity of the town ? Have they done any thing to augment its commerce ? What public build ings—what local improvements can they point to as having been commenced under their auspices ? What class of society has profited from their course of po licy ? Has it been of any benefit to the tradesmen of the town to give the contracts for clothing the police force, &c., to strangers in Ireland and elsewhere ? Have the Licensed Victuallers of Liverpool any rea son to feel thankful that we have had a majority of ra dicals in the Town Council, and a large batch of ma gistrates of the same " liberal" school of politics ? Do the Innkeepers of the town consider their property improved in value by the recent multiplication of fresh licenses ? Would this have taken place under a Tory corporation? Who are the parties that have been be nefitted by the accession of the radicals to office ? Who ?—tut the tools of the faction—those who per severingly worked in the service of the Reform Asso ciation ? They certainly have cause to be thankful that the radicals ate in power. Had it been otherwise they would have been suffered, through the length of their inglorious lives, "To waste their fragrance do the desert air." Their talents would never have been discovered, and could, therefore, never have been requited, had their liberal patrons not obtained a monopoly of the loaves and fishes. Three years nearly, as we have said, the radicals have been in office. They have had a sufficiently long period of probation allowed them. We appeal to the electors at large whether - they have not given more cause for dissatisfaction with their conduct than for sa tisfactien ? Is not the balance of popular favour against them ? We shall see. We are heartily glad that the conservative committees have already taken the field, and shown symptoms of life and activity in their proceedings. Let them go on energetically. Their opponents are busily at work. There is no time to be lost. November is at hand. Every mo ment must be profitably employed. If becoming dili gence is displayed—if " unanimity" should prove the watchword of the conservatives—as it undoubtedly is that of the Whig-radicals—we shall have no fear as to the result of the nest election, We have scarcely any thing to lose—and a fine opportunity for gaining a large accession of conservative strength in the Town Council. MANCHESTER AND BIRMINGHAM JUNCTION CANAL. —ln another column will be found an advertisement, announcing the formation of . a company for the pur pose of constructing a navigable canal from the Duke of Bridgewater's Canal, near Altrincham, to the Mid dlewich branch of the Ellesmere and Chester Canal, near its junction with the Trent and Mersey Canal, at Middlewich. This canal is to be called "The Man chester and Birmingham Junction Canal." From a map of the proposed canal, which now lies before us, we perceive that the distance from Manchester to Shropshire, North Wales, the Potteries, Wolverhamp ton, Birmingham, and London, will be shortened 18 miles. The canal will only be 16 miles in length, forming the shortest side of a triangle—the other sides being the Bridgewater and Grand Trunk canals, which are together 34 miles in length. A reference to the prospectus will satisfy the most sceptical of the utility and prudence of investing capital in this under taking. TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS.—We find that the length of our reports precludes us from offer ing any observations this day on the proceedings of the Town Council on Wednesday last. The topics discussed are too important to be lost sight of: , we shall, therefore, devote a portion of our space on Tuesday to the ex_ amination of some of the speeches which will be found in our report. MR. MORI'S ITALIAN OPERATIC CONCERT AT THE AMPHITHEATRE. On Wednesday evening, Mr. Mori, the celebrated violin ist, exhibited his judgment as an old concert giver, in af fording an opportunity to the lovers of music in its excel lence, in Liverpool, to hear the first vocal performers now in the country. The corps of vocal talent announced to per form contained no less celebrated names than those of Grisi, Albertazzi, the veteran of song Lablache, F. La b ladle, and Signor Ivanhoff. This was indeed presenting before the public a combination of first-rate talent, and as is always the case, under such circumstances, the public was not behind hand in liberality. Spacious as is our Amphi theatre, on the opening of the box doors, orders were given to the money-taker to sell no tickets, as every place was taken. To accommodate those who could not get seats, a part of the pit was boarded off for reserved seats, which were also soon filled. Before the concert commenced, when the house was full, the boxes presented a splendid galaxy of beauty and fashion. The performances consisted of selec tions from Belliui, Balfe, Rossini, Mercadanti, Schubert, Mozart, &c. The concert commenced with a quartetto, from Baines opera " I Puritani"—" A te, o cars, Amor talora," which introduced Madame Grisi, Signor Ivanhoff, F- Lab lache, and Lablache. This selection, which is a sweet and melodious passage in the opera, was sung with exquisite harmony, the cresendos and diminuendos being delight fully executed. The general style was piano; occasionally, however, Lablache giving evidence of the tremendous power of his voice, and electrifying the audience with its fortissimo immensity of tone. Madame Grisi next sung a polacca from Bellini, " Son Vergin vezzosa," with bewitching sweetness, and with a graceful ease, which contrasted with the brilliant effects she produced delighted the audience. She was encored. Lablache, and his son F. Lablache, next pre sented themselves, and sang a duetto from Bellini, " II rival salvar to devi ;" and it was in the mock rivalship of the singers in this piece that the capabilities of the elder Lab lache's voice were brought out to the fullest extent. F. Lablache has, in the abstract, a voice which would be called a very fine bass voice of great power, capable of much mo dulation, of considerable compass, and of musical tone ; it suffered, however, much in comparison with Lablache's, whose voice in power was capable of overwhelming it, and in brilliancy and quality of tone, made the other appear thick and tame. Well, the duet proceeded; Lablache exerted himself in his Maestoso style, and the audience was astonished. On every side we heard nothing but ejacula tions, " Oh, what a voice!" At one time descending the scale, note by note, to somewhere about low D, he appeared to have arrived at a depth below which it was impossible for a human voice to produce a tone, when out came in thorough bass, a note lower, distinct, clear, splendid in tone, electri fying; at the same time accompanying his action to his ex traordinary voice, he pointed with his indicator finger to the floor, as if to state "Still in the lowest depths a lower deep." The action spoke more than words, and with the tone had a perfectly magical effect; the audience, impressed with one feeling, gave a rapturous burst of applause. The next piece introduced Signor Ivanhoff, the Russian singer, accompany ing Madam Grisi, in a &tett°, "Arturo si e desso." Ivan hoff has a delightfully sweet and musical contr' alto voice, and is fond of producing adagio and dolce effects; and slowly diminishing the tone of his voice till it dies away "—So soft There's nought 'tween it and silence." He frequently thus soothed the audience into delight. Mr. Mori next presented himself, and played a violin concerto. We think, hut we may be mistaken, that he is on the wane as a violinist; bis style of playing, and execution, always simple and neat, has grown tame. He played a selection from Mayseder with great neatness and simplicitly of style, good execution, and fine tone. But there was no approach to brilliancy, or even vivacity in it. Madame Albertazzi next appeared, and sang an aria, by Balfe, "Non v' e donna." We were sorry to see her looking so unwell and altered for the worse. The quality of her t one o f vo i ce i s not un lik e that of Grisi's, richer, but less brilliant. Her style of sing ing has one prevailing characteristic—langour and want of animation. She satig the arta very sweetly. F. Lablache and Signor Vercellini next sang a duetto, from Rossini's " Barbiere di Siviglia." F. Lablache sang well; Vercellini, however, has not an atom of voice, whatever he may have had in his best days. He was distinguished by a very rapid, and, if we may be allowed the expression, staccato utter ance; but as for music of voice, not a single enunciation could boast a tone. It was like elaborate execution on a cracked violin. Albertazzi and Grisi next exquisitely sung a duetto, from Mercadante, which was most imperatively encored. Signor tlvanhoff then sang very sweetly a new serenade, by Schubert—" Thro' the night's dark shadows stealing." The feeling of the audience on hearing this song seemed divided between pleasqre and amusement; —pleasure at hearing the really sweet and delightful way in which he sung it—and amusement at his Russianized English, which broke out in a good humoured laugh as he sang the last line of the couplet—" Waken, lady dear," as " Wakken, laddy dare." He was encored. A number of other selections were sung, amongst which we were most pleased by an aria from Rossini's opera, " La Cenerentola," "Non piu mesta," by Madame Albertazzi, which was most delightfully sung; and by an aria by Madame Grisi, from Anna Bolena, " Al dolce guidami," which was sung with exquisite melody. Mr. Mori played another solo on the violin, a new fantasia, into which he introduced several popular airs, and played with a good deal more brilliancy than before; he also intro duced a very beautiful staccato movement. One or two of his selections, however, were mere practise lessons, running up and down the gamut, which we cannot say we admired. On the whole, everybody seemed delighted with the concert, and we do not doubt but those who have not had the oppor tunity of attending it, will take advantage of the second concert this evening. PORTRAIT OF THE QUEEN.-Mr. Sully, the American ar• tist's fine portrait of the Queen, now exhibiting in Bold-street at Mr. Goadsby's, has attracted considerable attention, a grea! many of our fasbionables have been to inspect it. We re. commend a visit previous to its removal. SIGNS OF THE TIMES—We yesterday met in Lord-street an Italian image-seller, with a full-sized bust of the Queen in one arm, and one of equal dimensions of Dan O'Connell in the other. Walking up a little higher, we met another image man carrying a similar pair of busts. "To what base uses may we come Horatio," may her majesty indeed exclaim with the poet, at finding herself ranked in such company. SHIPS' LEAKS.—A very ingenious machine has been ex hibited here during the last few days, the invention of a watchmaker, at Portsmouth. It is so constructed that the extent of water in a ship's hold can be ascertained at any time, and should the increase arise to any fixed point, it will cause an alarm to sound by means of a very simple con trivance. DANGEROUS ILLNESS OF THE EARL. OF DERBY.—OR Thursday last, as the Earl of Derby was superintending some extensive improvements which have been latterly going on at his grounds at Knowsley, his stick was observed by some of the workmen to drop from his hand, and almost imme diately afterwards his lordship himself staggered and fell. Assistance was promptly rendered, and the noble earl was conveyed into the mansion, where he received every proper attention from his medical advisers. The nature of his lordship's injury was found to be paralysis, affecting more or less the whole of one side. Stupor and lethargy ensued, and he remained partially in that state for a considerable time, the prospects of returning sensibility being exceedingly precarious, and life itself appearing to tremble in the balance. On Saturday morning Lord Stanley arrived at Knowsley, when the noble earl had happily so far recovered as to be able to recognise his son. Since then, though still extremely unwell, he has continued to manifest a tendency to conva lescence, and from the favourable report of the state of his health which; we received yesterday, we trust we may indulge the hope, that he will not only survive this attack, but that he will yet be preserved for many years, a beuefactor to the poor of the neighbourhood, numbers of whom are•provided by him with the means of earning an honourable subsistence. —Courier. LIVERPOOL TOWN MISSION.—On Tuesday evening week the quarterly meeting of the Ladies' Association in aid of the Liverpool Town Mission was held at the Charitable Institution House, in Slater-street. The chair was occupied by W. Kay, Esq. A few of the agents gave brief accounts of the state of their respective districts, with regard to the spiritual condition of the people, and related some highly interesting cases of good that had resulted from their labours during the last three months. One of the agents informed the meeting, that in one single court in a street in his district there were 141 persons, of whom only two individuals profess ever to attend at the house of God, and that, in the whole court, there were only two Bibles. The following is his statistical account of the.ent ire street :—Thei e are 369 fami lies, and in 142 of these, either the whole or a part of the sacred Scriptures was found. The Street contains 1718 souls, of which number only 17 profess to attend regularly the public worship of God. There are 200 who say they attend occasionally, and the remaining 1500, according to their own . testimony, never enter a place of worship.• There are 751 children, of whom 202 go to school. Of the whole population in this street, there are 1254 who say they belong to the Established Church, 418 are Roman Catholics, 30 Presby terians, 12 Wesleyans, and 4 Baptists. A meeting has been opened it the street, which is well attended. Another agent likewise gives the moral statistics of a street in his district as follows :-327 families, living in 109 houses. Adults, 623, of whom 559 are Irish, 44 English, 1 Scotch, 8 Welsh, and 1 foreigner. Of the 623 adults, 213 can read, but only 19 profess regularly to attend a place of worship, and there are but 22 Bibles in the street. The professors of religion generally know but little of the spiritual condition of their immediate neighbours ; but when such facts as these are brought to light, and placed fully before the public mind, if the spirit of religion exists amongst us at all, it will surely excite us to pity the surrounding thousands who are destroyed for lack of knowledge, and to make every effort within the reach of our talents and opportunities to seek and to save them. Several instances were related of reformation and conversion, and of the consequent happiness to individuals and families; and a few most gratify iug cases were stated of persons, the fruits of this mission, who have died within a few weeks, in full possession of the consolations of the Gospel. The meeting was subsequently addressed by several gentlemen who are members of the committee, and by several ministers of the Gospel, who confessed themselves so affected by the facts they had heard, that they requested to be put in possession of the information, promising to bring it publicly before their respective congregations, and to urge on them the claims of the institution. The meeting, though not nume rously attended, *as a very interesting one, resembling more a domestic party, met to converse on a highly-interesting subject s than 4 formal Miserably, listening to let speeches. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. REVIVAL OF AN OLD TRICI I I"ThOMES Palmer, a young man dressed somewhat in the fashion affected by the sporting gentry, was on Tuesday placed at the barAf the Police-office, charged with having attempted the trick commonly called "duffing." He was taken into custody by police-officer 166. The latter stated that he was called upon the preceding day by a man named Poole, who asked him to read a paper, at the same time showing him a large bunch of seals and a chain. Poole and the prisoner were together, and as he took them to be accomplices who were trying to practise their trick upon him, he put them both in bridewell. Poole was called to the witness-boa. He was an innocent-looking countryman, of very quiet demeanour. He said, stroking down his locks,—" Aw've bin e bad yealth yo see, an' aw coom deawn here to bathe for t' benefit o't sawt weyther, according to th' docthor's horder. Aw coom fra Croxton, and the lieverind Henry Broughton brou't me deawn at his own expense. Aw were dawkerin' along on, askin' for doc thur Chalmer, as lives here, an' Was recommended to by my own docthur, as he used to go a shootin' deawn at eawr place. I owertook that chap as,a wor gooin' along, an' he came reet across meeh, an' he stooped deawn, an' he made a grab, an' he poiked up summat. He opened it loik as iv to see what it wor. Well, he dankered on afoor meeh, an' then he ask'd meeh to read t' papper as he'd poiked up. Aw could no' muk it eaut as aw cawn't read written hand, an' soo as aw thewt that he'd poiked up summat vallyable, aw com'd to this gentleman, (the policeman,) thinkin' loik as he'd mebby make it eaut. Aw thewt it wor vallyable pro perty, an' it wor but reet as it should kind its way to t' owner." Mr. Hall told the witness that he had acted very properly, and like an honest fellow. The chain and seals were exceedingly well adapted for deception of this nature. The chain was a quadruple curb, and the seals (there were three of them) represented chased gold seals. They were suspended to a ring, and the whole set glittered most brilli antly. On the person of the prisoner was found an old work brush, much soiled with the red material used to clean such articles. The paper shown to the witness Poole ran as fol lows :—" Gold chain, three gold seals, and gold ring, £l5 10s. Od.—Paid for." The practice is for the pretended finder to show such paper to the intended dupe, who is generally thus convinced of the value of the articles, which are always mock jewellery. The duffer offers to sell his lucky windfall for a pound or two as the case may be, and it has mostly happened that dupes, fancying that the supposed finder can not read, and is ignorant of the value of the glittering prize, have given him what he asked. The prisoner, on being asked what he bad to say, stated that he was a native of Dublin, but he had been residing in Chester for some time past. He endeavoured to make it appear that he had really picked up the articles produced, and that he was a most honest and hard-working individual. He said his master, a Mr. Smith. a joiner and farmer, near Chester, had come to Liverpool with him, arid they put up at the Bull Inn. Mr. Hall: Then we will send for your master, and he will of course speak as to your character. Prisoner (quickly): Oh, my,master has gone away, he did not stop long. M. Hall: Well, they can tell us at the Bull whether you were there with such a person. Prisoner: Oh, I did not go into the Bull myself; I left my master on the steps. Mr. Hall (showing the piece of lea ther): What do you carry this about you for? Prisoner : I often have pieces of leather of that sort; I make bags of them. Mr. Hall (showing the old brush) : 'What is this for? Prisoner: I clean my teeth with that. (Laughter.) Con stable Gleave said he had met the prisoner about a fortnight ago near the Prince's Dock, in company with persons who were known as duffers. It seems the offence was not com plete in law, as the prisoner had not made any decided offer of the seals, &c. to the witness Poole. Mr. Hall said he should give the prisoner a short imprisonment this time, but if he appeared before him again he might expect to be se verely dealt with. The prisoner was ordered to the House of Correction for fourteen days. CURIOUS CASE.—James Hinman, a tall, awkward-looking youth, was on Tuesday placed at the bar, charged with having committed a robbery under the following circumstances:— The accuser was Hannah Smith, a female of uncertain age, and unprepossessing exterior. With many shrugs and great appearance of diffident hesitation she stated her case. " Thet men"—said she "lodged wi me. I hed eet (eight) pounds in my box end he walked into my—hem—bed cheercbaw on Thersdee lawst, end he ()opened me box end he tuck out my menial , . I went to—hem—to frusterhate him in his deseen, and he tuck out hi s k nee f e and he swoaw he would plenge it into lON' ha wt if I attempted to desist—end he also said, he would rip oopen—hem—my bowhills. Mr. Hall : "Do the prisoner and you live to gether?" Witness : "No Sae." Mr. Hall: " How came you not to call for assistance when he was going away ?" Witness: "Oh, I was so 'feared he would put his awful threats into hixicution." Mr. Hall :—" It is very strange, he lived in the house with you; you say. Is it your own house?" Witness: "No Saa.:' Mr. Hall : " Then have you cohabited with him?" Witness: " Oh, deea, dea, no saa." " Are you married?" " No—no —ye—ye —yes saa." Then where's your husband? No answer and the question repeated. " He's out o' town, saa, he's gone abroad, saa." „ Wh ere i s he? " " Th e f ec t saa i s, h e he ' s bin trawns ported !" Prisoner : " I'll tell you how it is, sir. I lived at the Isle o' Man. Pula joiner. I met her theer. She said as she wasnt married, an I 'greed to marry her. I went to vicar of Kirk Bradden to get a license, and when I men tioned her name, he said he know'd her, an' he thought I'd gotten into bad company, for she had a husband, and she'd been to him a-begging. He refused to marry us, and so we came over here a fortnight ago and tuck lodgiugs, and we've been living like man and wife." Complainant: (simpering and looking down)—" Oh deea no, we slept in the seem room, thet's all, don't b'lieve him, he's such a leyar !" Prisoner: " I can prove it, we'd about £l3 when we came over, and she paid £2 13s. for tools, and I've been in work ever since at Mr. Jones's place, and I've always given het my wages, and I told her if she'd behave like a woman as she ought to do, I'd do well by her." Mr. Hall questioned the conarlainant touching the correctness of these statements. She held down her head, and looking very foolish, replied, that she had certainly brought £l2 with her, had bought tools fur the prisoner, and had supported' hint since they came to Liverpool, besides paying the rent of the room which they jointly occupied. She denied that the prisoner had given her any of his wages, for said she, " be has spent all his mently iu chink, as he waws drinking for three whole days, and sawlently he• stole eet pounds." The prisoner mentioned the names of several gentlemen in Li verpool, who he said knew him. He denied that he had been absent from his work for three days, and requested Mr. Hall to send for Mr. Jones, and inquire if be had been ab sent from his work two or three days. Mr. Hall promised to comply with the latter request, and in the meantime, the prisoner was remanded. CHARGES OF THEFT AND OF OBTAINING MONEY UNDER FALSE PRETENCES.—Edward Campbell, a Warehouseman, in the employ of Mr. George Halwood Plant, iron -merchant, C hwpai h atv a rhik r n l aat g otnvebdi- having ace a n c ose e t. nri l oo s nan o e q n ymu ' l eau ' t i rinlc e tdh s i etdayra:oft false era iron np g hr e i efdl from oep a n In t es t e h hms e i f P trhmo o , a c s t e i‘e - cir o ae, ffi srats c enr • e sra: stated, that a little after seven o'clock on Thursday morning, about three weeks ago, be was on the New Custom -house stand, when the prisoner called t o hi m and took him and his cart to Mr. Plant's warehouse. The prisoner told him he wished to carry a load of iron to Old Milk -street. The pri soner took a quantity of bar iron from the scales and handed it to the cart. The iron was taken to the smithy of John Jones, in Old Milk-street. It was usual to have a note, but when witness asked the prisoner for a note he said, after feel ing in his pockets, that he could not find it. Witness told Jones, the blacksmith, that he had brought the iron from Mr. Plant's. Jones said, he did not expect any iron. After breakfast witness went back to Mr. Plant's yard, where.he saw the prisoner, and asked him to pay for the cartage. H e said, " I will get the cartage from the man for whom the iron was carted. On the following Monday witness was work ing at Mr. Plant's warehouse, when he learned that the pri soner had left the employ. As he had not paid for the cart age he informed Mr. Plant that he had carried the iron into Old Milk-street. John Jones, blacksmith, Old Milk-street, stated, that he remembered the witness Smith bringing the iron to his place on a Thursday, three weeks ago. Smith said, he bad brought the iron from Mr. Plant's, but, as he (witness) had not boaght it, he was unwilling to receive it. They still remained in the smithy, and he bad that morning shown them to the constable James Ainsworth. Mr. George Hallwood Plant stated, that he was an iron merchant. The prisoner had been in his service about six months. In the month of August last the prisoner gave him a week's notice, in pursuance of which he left his service. In a few days after wards his son, George Plant, gave him such information as in duced him to go to the smithy of Mr. Jones, where he saw the iron which he identified as his own. It was iron of the best quality, it weighed six hundred went, and was worth £4 lOs. George Plant stated, that he assisted in his father's ware house. He recollected the witness Smith informing him of the iron having been taken to Old Milk-street; and, on re ference to the books, he found that the day mentioned was the 16th of August; and remembered that on the day he was at the warehouse about eight o'clock. From that it was in ferred, as the iron had been taken before he went there, that the prison had entered the warehouse with false keys. James Ainsworth, constable, stated, that he had received informa tion of the robbery on the preceding day. About five o'clock that morning he went in search of the prisoner, and found him in a house in Hockenhall-alley. He stated, on being told what Ainsworth wanted with him, that he knew nothing at all about the matter. The second case against the pri soner was for obtaining money under false pretences. Mr. John Park stated, that he was partner with Messrs. John Williams and William Douglas. In the month of July last they purchased about forty tons of iron from Mr. Plant, which was delivered in the beginning of August last. It was agreed that the purchasers should pay the cartage of the iron. On the 18th of August the priSoner called at their office, and handed the account produced. It was for the cartage of the iron. Witness said, " Why do you call for this accountr', He replied, '6 It is an act of humanity : Cheetham is a poor man, and has to come all the way from the Clarence Dock; he has authorised me to receive it." Witness took off the regular discount, and paid the prisoner £1 lOs., receiving the receipt produced. John Cheetham stated, that he was a carter. In the month of August the prisoner employed him to carry some iron from Mr. Plant's warehouse to Messrs. Park and Co. On the 22d of August witness went to Mr. Plant's warehouse to get the weight of the iron. He was referred to Messrs. Park and Co. He went there and was informed that the weight had been given, and the cartage paid, to Mr. Plant's warehouseman. Next day witness went in search of the prisoner He found him at home, and asked him who gave him authority to draw his money at Mr. Park's. The prisoner said, " I was in want of mone', and 'took the liberty of getting it." The prisoner asked a great number of questions from the witnesses, but they seemed not to bear upon the case. Ile was committed for trial on both charges. MANCHESTER AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ST,INDARD. Sta,—l have just read the report of the meeting of'the proprietors of the above railway, at Manchester, yesterday, and, as a shareholder, I fully exp ec t e d t h at some explana tion would have been given of the amount of traffic expected upon this line, and also upo n th e extens i on o f i t, w hi c h i s spoken of. Now, as it is a well established fact, and may be seen by the published accounts of the Grand Junction Railway Com pany, that the traffic between Manchester and Birmingham upon the. Grand Junction Railway during the first year, is considerably less than one third of the entire traffic upon that railway. I would ask what prospect there is of any remunerating return from the Manchester and Birmingham Railway? If the Grand Junction, with the whole traffic, only pays ten per cent. the first year, what will Manch es t er and Birmingham, with less than one third of the traffic pay ? I trust, that before the directors snake any further call upon the shareholders, they will give this their serious considera tion.—l am, sir, yours, &c. Sept. 6th. A SHAREHOLDER ARRIVALS AT THE ROYAL HOTEL, HOYLAKE.—The Hon. Mrs. Stanley, family and party, Alderley Park; Sir Thomas Reid and party; the Rev. James Folliott, Mrs. Folliott and family, Chester; J. Holmes, Esq., and family, Upton ; C. R. Maddock, Esq., Tarporley; the Rev. Brooke Cunliffe and family, Wrexham; Lowton, Esq., and family, Manley ; Rey. Dr. Wynter (President of St. John's, Oxford) and lady; Frederick Stanley Carpenter, Esq., Liverpool; Captain Arrowsmith, R.N:, family and party ; John Barton, Esq., and party; Captain Tarletnn and party; the Rev. Mr. Fur nival and party; William Green Esq., and family; C. H. Beaumont, Esq., an d family, Cheltenham ; John Haseldine, Esq., and party ; Thomas Wheeler, Esq., family and party, Manchester; G. Appl e t on, E sq., f am il y an d party, Everton ; Edward Bennett, Esq., family and party, M anchester; F. W. Hartley, Esq., family and party, Yorkshire; Wm. Fos. bury, Esq., family and party, Everton; H. Froggart, Esq., and lady, Manchester; W. Btevaoson, Esq., and family, Bir. mingham • Mrs. M'Corkill," end family; S. Beaks, Esq., family and Mamas MaploF, and, family,. &c, I