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EPT. 23, -18:;6. the government of the theorist or the despot—to serve . the ascendancy of the rising intellects of the age.the • ,vagremaCy of the people - exonerated from the restraining security of the fieerage! The candid exposition made by Lord Skelmersdale; whilst it perfectly exonerates the peers froth even the shadow uf unworthy motives, in their acts Of the past session, shows the aninuts which has actuated the designs of their 'enemies, whilst they, the peers, were strictly en gaged in fulfiliing a•ConStitutianal duty, in . the adoptiOn or rejection of measures according to the due exercise of their deliberative authority. Speaking of 14 various measures or bills sent up to them, his lerdship says, that " they had all been considered and dilcusied upon their 'own merits. Where it appeared that the principle was unexceptionable, but that . the details were 'capable of alteration or improvement, such alteration or improve !tient had been made, and the bills sent down to the CommonS, in their amended state, to be adopted or re jected, A's the case might be: On the other hand, when the principle appeared defective they did not compound with fal,s.ehoodor faiSChtef, but threw out the bill, taking all the consequences of the obloquy that might rest upon them for so . doing." Here are declarations in every respect worthy of,a conservative British peer; and we would ask what just imputation of blame rests upon the. House of Lords for having acted. as described? Is that high estate to be called together merely for the purpose of actingfhe Solemn farce of registering the. edicts of the House of Commons, and of pOsiing, witheutoommentary, all the abominably mischievous trash of legislation pre-' pared at..the fag-end of a session of Parliament, wasted in a great measure in personal contention, and in propounding and contending for principles that were disgraceful to a 'body of Tiitional beings. We say, then, the House of Lords Stands exonerated upon the showing of Lord Skelmers, dale, et''en'Thwe'had not been before satisfied by thehril= liant statement of L'Od Lyndhurst. The country is also satisfied„-,tbat..is,thegreat community of intelligent , be ings we umierstandas," the people;" and if die whigs and their honourable-associates wish any further evidence at our hands, we give it them in the letter of their own 00-adjutor, Sir Willianr.: MelesWorth, electors of East Cornwall, bidtking-thent:'adieu,lest in the event of the anticipated election he should be chasse, in the same form aslty Lord of Russell:from:South Devon I It is a-most: gratifying circumstance to.us to be enabled to •artookm.gp.,that the S yn o d of Ulster has decided, by a m a j or ity o f twenty-4310.i lo two, against taking part to the national system of Irish education. The Synod has also, witb great spirit, exposed the under-workings which the board have had recourse to, for the purpose of consolidating that system of fallacious instruction in the etientials'of our holy religion. This event will, indeed, prove an aloetic dose to our worthy elect of the town council; and we have cause fur exultation, that the course pursued by our Protestant clergy iu Liverpool has been fully sympathised in by this act of the Protestant Presbyterian Synod of Ulster. If that sysiem is declared by the dissenting body in Ireland to be impure in principle, and indefensible in practice, in that country, where even Lord Stanley has admitted it had some foundation to build upon, on account of the relative disproportion in num bers of the Roman catholic and protestant population, on what pretext, save that of its being a political stalking-horse, for 'men of easy principles in religion and morals, can the introduc tion of the Irish system be applied for our protestant church, or even dissenting population in England ? We are greatly indebted - to Dr. Cooke for the able exposition he has given of the jesuitical trickery which has been resorted -to—the Educational Board" has already the " brand on its forehead ;" and we fancy we can now behold the • wry faces of some of our worthy advocates of the ".national !ystem" nearer home, met in first essay of their refined philosophy. Verily, 'champions of the council board, we wish you much joy of your newly-adopted pet child: Between the decision of the Synod of Ulster, and the elevatiOn of our rotestantiettOol; we are fearful the cleoleiaY : tiiiPopillsirity itself Orilla' ty. la rs I , Bic trwkaitgloria .Mundi ! Ailsaiisoq (it A correspondent has kindly hinted to us, that " the radical and unites ian faction have resolved on inviting Lord Melbourne_ and Lord John Itus,ell to a dinner at the Amphitheatre." Well, and what care we if the isoful resolve has taken ? Is conse r v a tism at se l ow an ebb as to dread the 'comparison ? We saii, in reply, let the deingtp cabinet•maker of. Mister O'Confiell,..and the reSeCtediljOrCor South" Devon come. Why should they not ?' Are weidtaiktit nmet:.Lprd Melbourne or. Ltrd Jeha llussell.nl>ou,os r ue•u ground?. Let those who read the columns ofth STAN o judge ._for jud...for us. " Truth without . . . fear," W . .e.say;then, let them come! von CITTIM L~rCA're to `iiivi3 €lifgsxcti YEoatt rrtt r.—The Royal Lan 'cashire •Yeontatiry'V4e,alry,assetubl e for- training at Lancaster on the 21st instant r. autl be review e d on tt.e. 28th. The .Cheshire "i'aoittanry is`setuble iti Liverpool in a few days, and will be reviewed aboutille3olLuf the present month. LEAR I.V. arip, Coppuit INE.—At Messrs. Winstanley a nd Sons' sales at - the - Clarendon-rooms, on Wednesday, one 15th share in the isle of Man alines was bought-in fur. £3,150. Six. 48th shares in the Coniston copper_ mines were bought in for £l4o each, and were subsequently sold to Mr. Lynn, at £165 each. • • • ULVERSTON UNION.—A union of several parishes has been formed in the north of Lancashire, under the name of the Ul verston Union, for the purpose' Ut carrying into effect the pro visions of the poor laws ref.= act. the Earl, of Burlington, and Mr. Braddyll, of Conishead Priory, two of the principal landed proprietors in the district, have taken an, active part in its formation. _ . MENDELSSOHN'S ST. PAUL.—The chorines of the first part have been for some days in the hands of the sitters at Liver -pool. They will have the whole, we hear, in a week hence. l'be principals were supplied with their parts a fortnight aad three weeks ago. At'llusSeldorff, when the oratorio was first brought forward, the solo singers received their copies three before the performance. This is an answer to the gi oauers. --Musical World. Ma s.;Gatt,oNsa.--We understand that several cases of deaf ness and other disorders of the ear have, yielded to the mild and innocentlreatment adOpted by the celebrated aurist, Mrs. 'Gardner, and it cannot but be gratifying to those who have not as yet had an opportunity of consulting this celebrated lady, to learn that it is still in their poWer to do so, in consequence of leer star in Liverpool being extended till the end of the festival. CAUTION To BAKERS.---Fro4l anal after the first day of Octo ber next, every baker - or seller of bread must be provided with - scales and weights in his shop, that all bread sold therein may be weighed iu the preseUce,et the purchaser thereof. And every .person Carrying bread for sale in a cart, or other carriage, must Also carry scales and weights therein, in order that such bread may be weighed in presence of the person purchasing the same, Under a penalty not exceeding £5. THIFILITE OP RESPECT To LORD 'LYNDHURST.—A party of gentlemen who frequent the Rainbow Hotel, Williamson'square, who are staunch conservatives in every sense of the word, feel jag the highest respect and gratitude foithe respected and ta lented Lord Lyndhurst, who has so st re n uous ly su pp or t e d and !upheld the principles of the constitution, have subscribed to pur chase a - pertrait of his lordship, to present to the landlord of that inu, to be placed in the bar parlour as a humble earnest of their -admiration of the noble and patriotic exertions which that noble man hasrMade in the cause of his country. APPILEHENSION "F A MUILDEREE.-0 . 11 Monday, John Ryan, an lrishinao, who had been some days in custody at the town bridessell; Was placed at the bar of the police-office, charged with the:nturder of a person named Stapleton, in Ireland, about twelve mouths ago. One of the Dublin police.:officers identi fied the prisoner as the person againet Whom he had a warrant, and on his undertaking to- pay the expense of the prisoner's maintenance in bridewell t Mr. Hall ordered the prisoner to be given up to him. 'The prisoner was heavily ironed, and put on board a Dublin steam packet about to sail in the afternoon. Cortroisatiors .Serioor.s.—We find that the female children in the South COrporation School a l e made to walk about with sand bags on their heads to improve their-figures ! This is what is called bodily education in the new march of intellect phrase ology. We also find that Mr. Simpson, the Scotch philosopher, who came to enlighten the town-council in their campaign against ancient prejudices, has recommended th a t the children should have Mater-closets instead of the old-fashioned accommo dation which has hitherto been provided for them, and which is - declared le be immoral. It will be very consoling to the pa rents to know, that though their children have not bibles in school hours, they will have sand bags; and though they have lost the catechism, they are to have water closets !—Cuurier. DEATH eV POISON.—On Mondity evening an inquest was held before Mr. .P. F. Curry, coroner, on view of the body of Jane Morris, an infant. Anne 'Morris, th e mo th er o f the-de teased, stated that she was the wife of William Morris, a rigger, Jiving in a Cohn leadi ng ou t o f K n i g h t-street. T he d eceased 'was three months old, and being ill, witness, on Saturday, went to the shop of Mr. Corlett the surgeon, and purchased a Mix ture, consisting of the setup 'of rhubarb' and poppies. 'On Sun day afternoon the deceased was very ill, and witness went to the cupboard in which she had put the mixture and taking out .11 phial - gave about half a tea spoon full of its contents to the in fant. She at the inoment.thought it was the mixture, but di rectly after found it to be a bottle of laudanum which her hus band wa,s.in the habit or using for a paid in his face. Witness took the baby to Mr. Corlett, but -in. , defiance of the proper antidotes which were adneillislsred with out loss pf time, the .Child died at ten o'clock on Monday morning .The jury re turned a- verdict or " accidental . CAUTION TO S3ssivaNTs.-00 Monday last, the following daring 'attempt at robbery took place in T - oxteth Park. Rally 1 3n the morning of that day,.a Mrs. Ilutnby,, wholseeps a house - itt that ne i g hbourhood fancied she heard spine person above stairs, and, determined Co ascertain who it could be, she imme diately imparted her apprehensions to the servant girl. • A po liceman passing at the time was called in, and also made ac quainted with the suspicions of Mrs. Humby. At len_th Mrs. Hamby, her servant girl, and the officer, went up stairs, and Afire, in one of the bed-rooms, concealed behind the curtains, they found a young lad, named John Gaffney, who is about 13 Years of age. , He was interrogated as to hoti he got there, but in`sati s f actory answer cou ld b e o btained from him. The officer ' t hen, searched hi m , a nd on his person was found a silk handker vnief and n'guatcl chain, which were recognized as the property !_f Mrs. Humbv. The lad was taken into custody, and on Tues ',ay last examined before Mr. hall, at the police court, and getiteuced to three months' imprisonment in the house of correc tlon at Kirlidale. TF,r , , p i• oit sys at Mme. d ORA AIUTANTI E.— ) lep "lot ieceived ttuusu a l h onours lately at a Aix th la Chapelle; 'trots beings • t to herb the soldiery. The drama is r . resented y . p " , n , s We remember no instance of military honours ss e • being paid either to singer or actor since the tine when, if the *erti es of a cottager were missink off-a hedge, the corps flra- At • • rie were instantly d usrummed out of the town, ou the strength their retiutation.—Mical * 7 TOWN COLTNCIT, PIZOCEEDINGS An adjourned meeting or the munthly:council was. held 9t2 'Wednesday laSt. The proceedings were commenced by the MaVor readingirn application froni.the cougregationofSt..Michael"s Church to I E I allowed to erect'a tribut e of res p ec t t o th e memor y o f th e i r late. minister, Mr. Berry, to which the council acceded. The !VALOR then announced that he had received two poems from a gentleman, and . which were directed to the corporation. 'tie author stated that he had sent a ropy to the King-, anti had received an answer, which he enclosed with the poems. What his object was in presenting these poems, he could - not divine, 'unless it was to obtain something of a substantial kind. They were too long to he read, hut he would read them if the council wished it. (Loud cries of " No, no, no.") The poeuis were then ordered to lie on the table. The MAYOR then announced th a t h e h a d re c e ived a petition and p rospectus of the Liverpool and flamburgh Joint Stock Quill and Pen Company, requesting the patronage of the corpo ration and their sanction, towards the formation of the company. One feature of the prospectus was, that the projectors said it would give emploVinent to 590 or 1,000 little children, of various ages from Bto 14 years. They also stated that the Ostrich feather and artificial flower business took its origin in France, and gave employment chiefly to young paupers, and now it was no - uncommon - thing for a manufacturer to employ as many as 3,000. The capital of the company was to be £20,000, in 2,000 shares of £lO each. The council declined hearing the prospectus read, as they had gol copies. The DEPUTY TOWN-CLERIC read a memorial from certain parties complaining of the narrowness of a thoroughfare from Temple-court to Tale-street.—Referred to the improvement committee. BY-LAWS. The Mayors said the next business to be brought before the special council related to tit* by-laWs. The Town-cuittic then proceeded to read the report of the committee on by-laws. The committee had met on this subject since the last council, and had.: bad all existing by-laws under their revision, and had made several alterations. But the com mittee conceived that much information was required regarding them before they could consider them as finally settled. They therefore hoped that a copy of the by-laws would be laid before each of the members of the council, for perusal, and also at the office.of the town-clerk, fin the perusal of persons interested, in older that the by-laws might be finally settred by the committee before they were submitted to au adjourned meeting of the council, to be held ten days from the present time. The com mittee had caused by-laws to be prepared which would have the effect of extending' to the new part of the borough various pro visions in the local acts which applyonly to the old borough, for the suppression of street nuisances, tot the better regulation of slaugh ter iiiiuses,tk. These by-laws, to the number of upwards of GO, might now be taken into consideration, but the committee thought it more expedient that they should first be submitted to the same -test as the other by-laws had been. The subject of electing the surveyor of but lugs might. be 'referred to the improvement committee. Mr. Alderman 131, A.IN moved that this report be adopted, which was seconded by Mr. THORNHILL. Mr. Councillor CA WRENCH thought that a subject of such importance as the by-laws ought to be printed and-mane public. - Mr. Councillor E. SMITH would second that; in order to show t hat he was not an enemy to printing in all cases. if it was not very long he would insert it in his newspaper, if there was no objection to it. ' Mr:AldermanßLAlN had no objection to this addition, that tbeii be printed. The MAYOR then understood this motion to be carried. • ELECTION OF SURVEYOR oF.BUILDINGS. The MAYOR then stated that it had been intended to have re ceived the recommendation' of theinaprOvement committee for the election of a surveyor of building's, but they had thought it better to submit it to their surveyor to state who was an efficient person, and probably more than oite'woUld be required; they should be able to bring this subject forward at the next council meeting. CHURCH EXPENDITURE. The MAYOR said the next subject which came under their consideration was the subject of church expenditure, on which subject a motion and amendment had been given notice of at the last council meeting. The Town-CLERK said he had a sketch of the supplementary report to the council, which he might as well read to the council, though, in order, it ought first to go through the hands of the finance committee. It was to the effect that counsels' opinion had been taken on the subject of payments to the organists, sextons, &c., and that opinion was that the corpora tiou were not under any legal obligation to make any such pay ments. In the cases where it appeared that the original presen tation, made under the seal of the corporation, granted.certain' stipends, the circumstances would require .material considera tion whether the lecturers were entitled to claim on the corpo ration under the endowment or not. Mr. Councillor BOLTON now rose to bring forward the mo tion of which he had given notice. He begged to call attention to the consideration of the expenditure of the corporation churches. In su doing, he would first advert to what , had oc curred in pursuance of this object. Soon after the appointment of the finance committee in January last, a sub-committee was appointed for examining into.the past expenditure'. On that subject they had reported to. the council on the 6th of April, and with permission he would read a part or that report. Mr. Bolton then read an extract from the report, showing the amount of various items of expenditure of the different corporation chnrches during the preceding years; and which report con cluded with—" And your coinmittee recornmand that the future expenditure on this account be strictly confined to the legal charges." (Hear.) This had been adopted by the council. He did not mean to say that What they agreed to should be like the laws of the Medes and Persians, never change, but when any alteration of their decision was to be made, very urgent reasons should be brought forward to justify such alteration. Immediately after this it became necessary to : ascertain what expenses were legal, and what were not; The subject since then had been very much under the care of the town-clerk, and the result had been a very ample and conclusive report on all the matters abopt to be brought under consideration, and for which they were very much indebted to his legal ability. That part of the expenditure which related to the payments to the clergy he considered it was not now necessary to discuss, it being mixed up with and dependent upon the result of the endowment question which was now before the Court of Chancery, and therefore it would be unnecessary to say further than that a full provision would be made for the payment of the stipends of the clergy during their lives, to the full amount they had been ac customed to receive. (Hear.) He was not opposed to that; but to the endowment in perpetuity he was now and ever would be decidedly opposed. (Hear.) For he would maintain that the funds of the corporatiCrn belonged to every sect and party, and that it was an act of injustice to pay out of that fund any thiug for the promotion or advancement of any one denomina tion whatever, be they catholics or churchmen, or dissenters. He maintained this on the ground of principle. lie was quite aware that, placed as they now were, there were acts of parlia ment which, gave exclusive privileges to various churches, not only for ministers but for Organists, clerks, and various other matters. Whilst these laws were in force it was his duty, And the duty of every subject to obey them cheerfully. It night be their duty if they were unjust to endeavour to . amend them. The next parts of the report of the expenditure on which might arise any discussion, were those parts which related to the organ ists. It was previded by law that payments should be made to some of them, and to the sextons and clerks, and various other disbursements, With regard to these he would only r emar k that these payments ought to be made with a due regard to economy; they should be fair but not extravagant, and these expenses should be kept down to a moderate amount. Con nected with this part of the expenditure it was painful to con trast the different results which had taken place in the manage ment of other churches as compared with those supported by the corporation. Whilst the corporation churches were sources of great expenditure, the churches of Edge-hill, St. Andrew's, St. Philip's, and several other churches which supported them. selves, not only furnished the means of . paying their own mi nisters, but also furnished to their proprietors a very handsome remuneration.. (Hear.) That brought hint to that part of the expenditure which perhaps might be called the debatable part, as there was a difference of opinion as to the propriety of con tinuing it. According to his knowledge of this item of expen diture he was happy. to say that it was exceedingly pure now to what it had been. With regard to the church of St. Mi chael's, the first church he should bring under their notice, the only expense he should object to was the expense of £63 a year paid to the singers ; the organist was provided by law. The next church he should notice was St. Luke's. Sixty-three pounds was, allowed for the same purpose in that church, and in addition there were £67. Is. paid fir bell ringers, which expense-he held to be illigal and not obligatory. The next thing was an expense of £93. 15s. in St. Martin's Church, which was allowed for . the cheir for one year and a quarter. It began in 1831, when £63 was allowed, and then £8.3 was allowed per.annum, for what reason lie -could not tell. The next item brought him to the expenditure of St. George's Church, iu which there was' more variety and a larger amount allowed- than to any of the other churches; The first item of expenditure was £63 for an organist, then £4 for an organ blower, £129. 3s. for chorister. ' £4, 4s. for tuning the organ, £32 for music, ma king alto g eth er a total of £232. 75., for which there was no legal provision. The next matter was perhaps unimportant : it was a sum of £77. 17s. 6d. for organist, clerk, and sexton for St. Paul's Church, which charge was not obliga tory or warrantable under the municipal act. The next were various charges on account of St. Thomas's ChurCh. The expenses per annum were £lO6. 19s. 7d.; of which sum only £39 was legal, which made the excess of expenditure over what was legal £7l. 19s. 7d. They had heard the report, and they would determine on what they would do. These were the items to which he objected, amouuting in the four corporation churches to £6OB. ss. Id. per annum. They would seem to bear hard on St. George's" Church, for whilst in the other churches there was provision made for many of these expenses, there was mine in that; but when they considered the wealth and fashion which adorned that church;abd saw the splendid equipages which sur rounded its door, he thought the congregation would not object to pay out of their own pockets for what was to administer to their own gratification. He was told that it was intended to contend for the continuance of all these charges on a ground which he was surprised to hear-that if the music was with drawn from the churches, they would soon be empty. Really the religion of the establishment must be at a very low ebb, if the withdiawal of the music would take away the congregations. It' the subject was to be viewed as a mercantile question, let them look at it as such. He had taken the expenditure of the last five years for St. George's Church, and he fotind it to be £7,942. 18s. 241.: there . had been received for seat rents £3,167. 18s., 7d. For St.MiChael's Church, for the same .pe riod, there had been expended £4,674. 2s. ltd., and there had been received £2,712. 2s. 6d.; for St. Martin's there had been paid £5,010. 14s, 9d., and received £1,254. ss. 411.; for St. Luke's there had been paid £3,769. Bs. Od., and received £1,926;17e. 7d. For these 'f o ur c h urc h es ther e had been paid du,ripg ,the last five years a sum of .f.:21,397. 3v. Ild., and re ceived £9,060. 145., leaving a loss on these four churches of . £12,336. 9s. lid., or on an average £246. 7s. 2d. per annum for each church, not accounting for the loss of interest. In addi tion to which might be fairly added £2lO annuity paid to Mr. Case.' That had not very touch to do with the subject, but still it was a part of the sum which was paid out of the corporation or common property. From this fund in the preceding seven years there had been expended £39,070 for building St. Mar tin's, St. Luke's, and doing something at the steeple of St. George's, which was a total outlay per annum for building churches of £5,581. 10s. In connexion wills this subject, he believed it might be considered that what was paid to the or ganists would be termed a church-rate, and levied accordingly. The town-clerk had opened a report prepared by the Arch bishop of Canterbury and the Bishop of London on this subject, and in it the question of church-rates was very fairly and cre ditably.treated. That report stated that church-rates ought to be made in vestry. It stated also that if in a vestry meeting the rate was imposed, the r e was littl e diffi cu lt y i n l evy i ng i t . It stated further, that the sa l ar y o f th e organ i s t was no t l ega l t o be included in the rate, and that, therefore, thi s expens e m ust be aband one d . But it' says if the vestry refuse this expence, it may be referred to the churchwardens, who have the power of imposing ri rate, which may be Made a legal charge by the sanction of the majority competent in an riz:hiun er • of the vestrv,4ad when given it not , to object to it. When this subjeo. had been 'meet discussio n in the House ()remit - ions, it was kilted by Lord Althorp that he bad divided time subject of church rates into two points, one of which he called neCestaries;iind LIVERPOOL STANnittri the et her luxuries. The tecessariet he considered to be, the walla of church-yards,. sexton's salary, &c., which ought to be provided Air out of. the public purse; hut anything in the shape of an organist he considered as a luxury, and the parties en joying it ought to pay for it. He mentioned these things not . because he was opposed to music in churches, on the contrary, he thought it a very desirable accompaniment. He had it in hiS church, and he very cheerfully paid his proportion towards supporting it ; but what he objected to was, that the persons who derived the benefit of it came there for them to pay for it. There was only one condition on which he would dispense with singing from his own place of worship, and that condition would be to have to go begging for the means of supportive g it. It was also remarkable that all those churches which the corpo ration in Liverpool encouraged, should be the only churches which were not flonrishiug. It seemed from the authority of all time, that the Almighty blasted whatever was protected; in the end it destroyed that interest which it.,was meant to pro mote; it. raised all mankind against it on account of its in justice. He considered this was a matter of .principle and nut of expediency, and the subject ought not to betreatedmnder the paltry pretext of expediency. In justification of withdraw ing this support from the churches, he might also say that the dispensary, which no one would deny the utility ofit was an institution in which the poor were relieved, of all sects and all parties—and the corporation had thought it right to withhold a subscription towards it, and now how could they with any pro priety he asked to contribute to the gratification of the parties who attended the corporation churches. It would be a disgrace to the town to he told that they were bound t o take away their support from the dispensaries and give it to the organists. With regard to the municipal act by which the management of their affairs was given to them, there was no privilege given to any sect or party; and in case there should be a surplus of their funds, there was an express provision made that it should be emiloyed in the public beuefit.of the inhabitants, not for the advantage of a party or of a sect, but for the improvement of the borough at large. With these views, the subject having un dergone much inquiry, he thought the time was now arrived when they should declare what line of conduct they would pur sue, and be should therefore propose fur the adoption of the council the following resolution ;—" That the payment of the ' funds of the corporation on account of charges described in the report as not obligatory, be discontinued, and that the future expenditure be strictly confined to such items as are obligatory and legal, due regard being observed to economy in the pay ments for services performed, and work to be done. The pro ceedings in Chancery in the endowment cause being still pend ing, renders it unnecessary at present to consider that part of the report which refers to the stipends of the clergy. This re ' solution to take effect on the let of November next, and a copy of it to be sent to the churchwardens of the churches,concerned, by the town-clerk." He thought this extension of time neces sary ;: not to turn the organists and choristers.off;as they might come upon them for compensation. . Mr. Councillor LA wattrics HEYWORTH rose in support of the principle advocated by Mr. Bolton. He hoped they Would be faithful to the charge with which, they wore entrusted, When he considered that they Were -the - representatives of the whole bridy of the town—of every denomination . of Christiaus, and of Jews too. What would be the effect on their minds ika, pro-. posal should be made to grant an addition to the stipeigs,p,tlig ministers'of any other sect out of the fund s o f the ni.i"PbtlitititY. I Such a prepoaition would-be at once negatived.: in ikkatuttbigut and very properly. If thiS were to be granted„.litrisefomil in justice refuse the applicati o ns of any otheilsecf. -- He co e it Y 2 sidered that no advantage could be. but on the 'contrary. He considered that E rgkiii9ll t, things, to be carried on the principle free trade. - ITel ton never existed but by .divine appeintment, aintidoild tSrititidff p: ported by compulsory measures. He most cordially.agreed. in the principle which Mr. Bolton had advanced. Mr. Alderman BROWN gave the gentleman who had brouel.t forward this resolution credit for the, manner ittYivitiCltilbe.y had acted on this occasion. He was sure they would haveAf4etiltiu the same manner had it been to take these' iteiris - frotti - the Catholics. He rose to propose au amendment somewhat -dif ferent to that of which he had given notice. These items were not justifiable by law; but when they looked at the heavy ex peuditure for these churches they should take into consideration , that a considerable number of pews in these churches were , not rented but left free for the poor burgesses, which would greatly diminish the amount of the receipts. In the amendment he should propose he should not go the length that it had been anticipated he intended to go. He should move "That a Com mittee be appointed to take into consideration the subject of the whole church proprty of the corporation, and to report upon the most desirable management of it; due regard being had to the payments which are obligatory and Not obligatory, and to such as are expedient and ,not expedient, and all with ' reference to the maintenance and increase of the rents of the seats, as a matter of sound discretion." He was not desirous of perpetuating charges which were unnecessary, but as Conser .VatorS of the Borough property they-were placed these to make the most of it. Probably some gentleman would do him the honour of seconding his amendment. Mr. Councillor DUNCAN would cordially second the attend meat' proposed by Mr. Brown. He considered that they were entrusted with the care of the churches. To a certain extent theY'were . protected by act of Parliament, and they w ere b oun d .to maintain those acts to their full extent, and theY were also bound to maintain the churches as they now were in all their efficiency. If it were in his power he would add to the stipends of the clergy instead of diminishing them, and most willingly, as he considered they were inadequately paid, The AI AYOR.—The question of the stipends of the clergy was not then under consideration. - •. • Mr. Councillor Portc.visaid he should be.very glad to defer the whole question'till the endowment was settled. The TOWN-CLERK then read over the resolution and amend ment. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said he had a strong objection to Ur. Brown's amendment, inasmuch as the subject had already undergone, by one committee, the most minute investigation. All that could be done, was done to their hands. ( Hear.) Mr. Brown's motion did net propose that such a committee as he wished to have appointed, would be at all final, so that the mat ter would again come before them in the same state, without any additional information. Upon that ground, therefore, he should obj ec t t o th e a d opt i on o f t h e amendment: Had Mr. Brown proposed that the subject should go back to the Finance Committee, for their final decision--- Mr. Alderman Beowiv.—l have no objection to that. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN.—IIad he proposed that, he should still haVe objected to that course even; for he did think that they were getting too much into 1 he habit of giving to coin mittees the decision of questions which they ought to decide upon themselves. (Hear.) He should strongly object to giving the decision of this question to the Finance Committee, which they themselves ought to decide upon. Six or eight weeks ago it would he remembered that he had had the honour of intro ducing a resolution the tendencY of which was to prevent any grants to schools, and the ground of his objection was, that it would be the safest course to keep completely clear of any such expenditure as was not immediately for the benefit of all parties. That resolution was carried, and he trusted it would form a permanent principle of action for succeeding ages. If it was right and proper to adopt that resolution, then surely it. was most decidedly right and proper to keep clear of encouragin g any particular sect by th e p a y men t o f sums o f money f or the support of any portion of their establishments. If it was not right to give to the schools against which there was the least objection, still more strongly was it desirable that they should keep themselves clear from any direct encouragement of an, denomination of christians by voting sums of money for their support ; and therefore he called on all those who had supported that resolution, in consistency, to support Mr. Bolton's motion ; and he trusted that those gentlemen who had supported that resolution, would now do equal justice to all parties. He thought they had committed themselves in that resolution to the sanction of a general principle, the application of which to the present case was perfectly clear. There •was no opposition to church establishments ! He disclaimed all such feelings ; all they claimed, was equal justice, and that no favour should be shown to any one portion more than another. Dissenters were in the habit of supporting their own institutions; they received no support from any one. Let them be Consistent, and if they refused to give to those who were more necessitous and less ob jectionable, let them not give those things which were open to objection, and which might be called luxuries. Whatever dif ference there might be on the propriety of,singing and music in places of viorship, they were bound to withhold their funds for these objects. When they had gone to their utmost length in withholding payments from the episcopalians or that sect esta blished by law, yet there still remained permanent charges, se cured by act of parliament, of very large . sums of money; so that when they bad done their best to do away with this they should still stand in the predicament of giving a very large and perma nent sum for the support of the church And heconsidered that this injustice would be greatly aggravated to grant these sums, when £l6OO a-year was already settled on the churches by act of parliament. They were surely not called upon in justice to add to the amount of this grave injustice, for injustice it was, though it was authorised by act of parliament, which act it was their duty to obey. An idea had been thrown out in conversation on this subject, that they should view these churches as a sort of trad ing concern which they were bound to keep up, and that they should make the best of them, and that by paying for music they should get more from the letting of the seats than they would without music. He strongly objected to this view of the subject. He thought it degrading to the churches themselves, and that such a view, of the subject was particularly offensive. It seemed to hint to take for granted that the music and singing were more important than the religious instruction. He thought they should do great discredit to the ministers of those churches —that they should pay a very left-handed compliment to the congregations if they proceeded on the supposition that they would deprive themselves of music if they should refuse to pat: for it for them. He believed the result would be not to diminish in the slightest degree thiise services, but to excite individuals • to come forward and provide themselves with what was now pro vided by the public money. He did not think they had reason to apprehend any falling off in the seat rents if they should dis- . . - continue•paying for the r music, fur it would be provided by the congregations.: They had had some, proof lately of the good ef fect of causing persons to exert themselves; when that council had determined to open the schools to the whole community, they did not anticipate that the happy result would be a subscription of £ll,OOO. (Cheers.) Let them be prepared to withdtaw these paymenti, acting on thiS principle, and there would not be the least deduction from the, efficiency and success of the worship carried on in those places, and, instead of doing th em a disservice' ortreating them With disrespect or evincing any thing like a hostile spirit towards them, they would be doing essential service in increasing the discharge of those duties, which were theamblest enjoyment of which their nature was ca pable. With these views lie supported, with all his heart, Mr. Bolton's resolution. Mr. Councillor — EAßLE quite agreed in every thing Mr. Blackburn had said. He did not• see what more they could have by referring the report again to the same committee. They could only repOrt the same things over again. He thought it more manly for them to declare their sentiments at once. He thought Mr. Bolton's arguments were quite con cluske, and he, as a churchman, should support his resolution. (H,ear, hear.) Mr. Councillor WALMSLEY, as a member of the established church, begged to say he was quite satisfied that no churchman would consent to receive any sum from the Corporation which was considered illegal. He trusted the time was not far distant, when churchmen would refuse to receive any part of the funds which ought to be expended eXclusiVely for the public good. Mr. Councillor EGKRTON SMITH said Mr,.Boltnn called on them to do merely what the law required them to do.. They could not appropriate any sums which *ere not from a surplus of the corporation funds. It had frequently been his misfor tune to ask for money, and he had always been answered that there was no surplus tutor. It appearedto him that this grant would be throwing away the public money. for purposes extra. judicial. It appeared to tin, if they Were to grant these autos, they could not refuse gratfts to Other . public congregations be sides the Church of England. There were 60,000 Catholics in Liverpool; and St. Patrick's Chapel was considerably in debt. He thought, after making the vote Which was „contemplated, they would be "saddled" with a poor excuse to say to these people if they asked for some o f the public money, " we can give you nothing." It appeared to him that they were called on to do that - which the Jaw required, them to do. Ile quite agreed with Mr. Blackburn that if the church was' thrown ou its own resources it would tionrish better than if bolstered up. Mr. Alderman Bnow*inexplanation thOqght there must be some mistake on the part otthese gentlemen who bad adVopated the resolution. They knew,that the Churches, where there was pea niuSid and' &hi foi t 6.121 were'alVeti'd'ed,'aii'd.— Mr. COUTICiIIOI' BOSTON, Went dad cannot he: heard." . . The MAYOR decided th a t it w a s so. lie bad merely given Mr Brown an opportunity of explanation. Mr. Councillor il. LAWRENCE thought since-the unprofitable state of the corporation churches had been under consideration there was one thing which should not be overlooked, and that was the great number of free seats in those chtirches. He did not make any allusion to St. George's, where there certainly had been great extravagance. In St. Michael's there were 520 free sittings; in St. Luke's 2611; and similarly in the other churches. All those who attended those churches were charged very high rents for their seats, and they should have all that was expected in an established church for it. He did not think that any good would come front wasting arguments upon the council, as he saw the .general feeling was against the grant. As a matter of expediency he did not call it. "a noun and paltry pretext." He thought expediency ought to be looked to on ail occasions. He should Certainly support Mr. Brown's amend ment, as it.was not worth elide making another amendment upon the motion, or he should somewhat have modified the amendment. He would have . proposed that those churches where the corporation derived the whole of the funds should be efficiently kept up by the corporation, and that St. George's should have au organist. What made these churches generally so unproductive was the number of free seats they contained. Mr. Councillor BOLTON said it was the common practice for the movers of resolutions to reply where amendments were made. In his opinion there was little in the way of argument which required refuting. With regard to the resolution of Mr. Brown ti support the provision which was made to-the four churches, the objection he had to it was, that the singing of these churches was a luxury which the congregations themselves ought to pay for, and therefore he considered that this had nothing whatever to do with the matter of supporting the places of worship. He would go to the very utmost in stretching the law fur their accommodation, but this was in effect a gratifica tion for the rich; and it happened most unfortunately: for the observation that the church to which the fewest poor went, St. George's, was the most expensive. Mr. Blackburn had very justly observed, that the established church had the advantage of a legal protection, and he would not now increase these ad vantages. It seemed to him most singular, that is all those dis sensions it was alwa y s an affair of pocket between those who had privileges already, wishing to retain or increase them at the expense of others. He believed there was nothing further on which he wished to observe. He should call for the decision of the council as the question now stood, firmly persuaded that everything in the nature of argument went for his motion. The MAYOR, after inquiring if any gentleman wished to make any further observations, said before they voted he would take the liberty of saying one word. He did so now as he did nut like to interrupt Mr. Blackburn whilst he was speaking. It— Mr. Councillor BOLTON (interrupting)—" I have replied to what has been said on this subject, and I conceive that no one person has any right to say any thing further upon it." The MAYOR—" I am entitled to make the observations I am about to make. On previous"-,-- Atr. Councillor BOLTON (persisting)—" Before I replied you had, the right to address the council., Really after I have spoken; to address the • council is contrary to all rule both in 'par/latnent and Out of it'as far as' I am acquainted." • Matrott—': I have-only to 'observe - that .1 have hitherto den eas• 1. was. about. to do on: the present occasion. I have no %Vsfi take the slightest advantage . ; but if it is the opinion of thecouneil that 'I ought not 'to address theirs, I shall nut. lam sorry that Lhaire loSt the opportunity?' • Mt' BowrioN lagain interrupted. 1 he M4yon (sitting down)—" I ant the last person to give the. council an opportunity of calling me to order. Go to the vote. (Bond cries from all parts of the room of 'Ni), no, no; speak?) No, I shall not; vote. (To the Town-clerk.) Go on." The division was theu taken, when there appeared, for the 'aniendinent, Messrs. H. Holmes, Mellor, Birch, Woollwright, H. Lawrence, Saudars, Duncan, Brown, and the Mayor. Against the amendment, Messrs. S. Hope, Thornhill, Shell, Harvey,. Smith, Thornely. Rawson, L. Heyworth, ‘Valins ley, Bolton, Rushton, H. Hornbv, Rathboue, Preston. J. Lawrence, Aikin, Lassel, T. Holt, Earl, Morecroft, Btackbuin, Coglau, Alison. J. Cropper, Tayleur, Evans, Bl.kin. 0. Her worth, Moon, Freme, Barclay, Stuart, Leathow, T. Smith, Jones, and Berm, Against the amendment, 36; for the amendment, 9 ; majority, 27. "I submit th:it nets argu- Absent, Messrs. J. Holmes, llorsfall, Logan, M‘Gregor, Barton, Bright, Maxwell, Carson, Brocklebank, Roskell, E. Cropper, Leigh, G. Holt, Jordan, Bulley, Robinson, Booth, and J. Hortiby. The original motion was then put by the members rising from their seats. The motion was then declared carried. sLACGIIT.ER-HoUSES. The MAYOR said the next subject was the report of the sub committee of finance on slaughter-houses. The TowN CLERK then read the report orthe sub-committee of finance, appointed to take the necessary proceedings for car rying the removal of the slaughter-houses into effect with expe dition. The report set forth that the committee had received a letter from Mrs. Dodd, the occupier of a slaughter-house in Cable-street, under an unexpired lease from which she received a small income. The report further detailed that an act 26th George 3rd, for the improvement of the borough and supFres slim of nuisances, after reciting that the slaughtering or killing of beasts and cattle in the public parts of the town, was found to be exceedingly noisome and offensive, for remedy thereof the Common Council were authorised to purchase such lands within the liberties of the town, as they should think fit fur the pur pose, and of building slaughter-houses tnereon ; and it was enacted that henceforth no beast should be killed or di essed else where in the town, under the penalty of 20s for each offeuce. ' By the Ist George 4th (1820,) these provisions are recognised, and regulation for the existing slaughter-houses provided till the new erections are completed. It appeared that there were in the public parts of the old borough 54 slaughter-houses, many of which were common nuisances, and iu the opinion of the committee, the health and comfort of the the inhabitant had for years past required their removal to some more convenient si tuation. This subject having been taken up by the late coun cil, a lease of land near Brownlow-hill was, under their direction, granted to Mr. J. Clifford Etches, on which new slaughter-houses were to be erected, conformably with the act of parliament. Under this lease, buildings for the slaughter of cattle, to a very considerable extent, had been erected by Mr. Etches, and were now ready for use. By the terms of the arrangement of the late council with Mr Etches, th e l ease w as gran t e d for 75 years, at a nominal wit and without any fine, upon a surrender of old terms for lives :and years. The late council also entered into a covenant with Mr. Etches, that they would carry into effect the powers vested in them by 26th George 3rd, for preventing the slaughter of cattle in any other part of the town but the new slaughter houses, and into a further covenant for guaranteeing to him a rent of £6 103 per cent, on the total amount of money that he might expend, not exceeding L 17,500. The whole of this amount was represented by M r . Etches to have been ex pended, consequently the corporate estate was responsible to hint, under the pledge of the late coun c il, f o r a guaranteed rent of £1137 10s. With the corporate estate so pledged, the execu tive had devolved on the present council without giving them any power of variation. [The regulations for the government of the new slaughter-houses were here embodied in the report.] By the lease, Mr. Etches was under covenant not to charge greater rents than would amount in gross to £1330. The new slanghter . -houses appeared to the sub-committee to have been , erected upon a plan well calculated for preventing the killing and dressing of the beasts from being any nuisance in the neighbourhood, being amply provided with sewers, water, &c. The sub-committee expressed regret that it should have fallen upon the council to execute duties under arrangements over which they have no control, and that the removal must be at tended with loss in several eases they lamented also that some scheme had not been originally adopted which would have given the trade a general interest in the erections, and afforded com pensation, in particular cases of hardship, at the expense of the general undertaking. Mr. Alderman 13nowN begged to move that the proceedings of the finance committee on this subject he approved, and that it be then referred back to the sub-committee, for the purpose of carrying it into execution. The suction was seconded by Mr. Stuart. Mr. COMICIIIOrJA min LAwnr.NcE should like to know whether all slaughter-houses were to be removed ? The AlAvoit said the committee would be able to anfter that question. Mr. Councillor EARLE thought that every slaughter-house in the town, should be declared a nuisance. Mr. Councillor J. LAWRENCE made the enquiry because he had lived near some slaughter-houses for 20 years, which were no nuisances. He thought that the committee, some of whom were present, could have answered his question. The Town-cLEnit submitted that the consideration of this subject required a great deal of deliberation before an answer could be given by the committee, and it would be better if that committee were not to commit themselves by giving an incon siderate answer. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN understood that this general abattoir was to supersede all others in the town. The TowN-cLuni..—"The report states that all others will be under the penalty of £2O if continuing, and informed against ; and it further stated that the fine would be enforced. Mr. Councillor Btecu then moved that the report be printed, which was seconded by Mr. Holmes. Councillor BLACKBURN thought it should be advertised in the newspapers. Mr. Alderman LEATHOM objected, on the ground of expense; there were 13 papers iu the town, and the expense would be be very great. Mr. Councillor 11. LAwnaNcs thought it should be handed to the gentlemen of the Press to make what use they thought pmper. lite Report was then handed to the reporters, and it will be seen Above that we have inserted it. DISCUSSIONS OB THR COUNCIL. Some discussion then occurred on the notice of a motion by Mr. RArnaoNE that no new business should be discussed after three o'clock at the council meetings. It was decided that it should nut be in the power of any member to stop any discus sion going on when three o'clock arrived, but that after that hour no new business should be entered into. WATCH RATE, COUNTY RATE, LIGHTING RATE, AND ScAVENGERING RATE. The Town-clerk read th© report of the watch committee to the following effect. That the next month being the annual period for laying the watch rate in this borough, such rate will now have to be raised in like manner as a county rate, and accord ingly to be 'evicd by the overseers of the parish of Liverpool, and of the townships comprised in the new part of the borough, under the assessments of the council, the warrant of the Mayor, and the warrants thereupon of a corporate officer to be appointed to act as a high. constable. For the procuration of evidence on which to ground the assessment, the committee submitted that a committee should be appointed. with full power to call for all icquisite returns from the several overseers. &c. and that the Mayor should be the chairman of such committee, with power to grant all necessary. precepts, &c. and to affix to them the corporate Seal, required by law. The committee finding much complication and consequent misunderstanding as to the seve ral rates, county, watch, lighting, and scavengering rates, sub mitted the following explanation. Tice county rate upon the parish of Liverpool, had been up wards of l LOW per annum, upon the average of the last seven years. It was levied for all county purposes, as, gaol, the maintenance and punishment of prisoners, courts of justice, coroners' charges, &c. Until the municipal act, it was .s charge upon the parish, and was collected by the overseers upon the parochial assessmeut, besides which, the parish contributed to the extra costs of the borough prosecutions , from which it was relieved. The whole of this tate upon Liverpool, was now by the municipal act to be borne by the corporation, either in pay ments directly f or the prosecution maintenance, and punish, me at of offend ers, and the expense of gaols and corone rs Charges, or in payment of the balances to the county treasurer , for general county purposes. The corporation had also in re spect of the new part s a the borough, to bear their proportionate obligation to the county rate. The watch rate by the municipal act, was limited to the for sum ex pan d e d average yearlythe nightly watch in Liver pool for the last seven years. That average amount Was £8,63 1 ids. ILI, and the rate for it was4d. in the pound. 'r his rate under the municipal act, was extended in like manner to the new parts of the borough. So far as regarded the parish of Liverpool, thi s new rate was nothing more than the old watch rate, laid since 9 1st Geo. 2d, by the late commissioners of watch, scavengers, and lamps, and both the old and new parts of the borough had for their contribution on the scale of the old nightl!" viatch, the benefirof a watch ) by day and by night; at the expense of the corporate estate. The . liipitinif rate waS the old fate continued upon the palish r.f Liverpool, as it was levied by the late connyissioners, and e‘teniled, in like manuer, tv the newerts. 4d. in theyoUnd. , _ .. . The scavenger? rate was the old rate continued. Tliere vas no authority to extent: this ratelo the new parts of the borough, which, for the present, remain is this respect under the geucral highway act. .. On the question being put by the Mayor, the above report was adopted. The Towr;-ct.ERE read a reptitt from the committee on the Borough Court and Courtpf Bequests, which set f or th, t h a t a letter had been rec e ived from Mr. Timothy Parkinson, sergeant at-mace, dated lith September. 183 G, which requested that the subject of his hail should be taken into further consider ation, as he deemed it too large, and begged that it might be re duced, and, in case this could not be complied with, he begged to be informed what amount of compensation he might expect in case of,dismissal. To this the Town-clerk had written in re ply, that no. alteration could be made in the amount of bail required. bat Mr. Parkinson was requested to attend the coin tnittee on the following day—and further, that the latter could not state what sum .Mr. Parkinson might get if he, claimed compensation.,• When the committee met on the following day, a letter was received from Mr. Parkinson, stating that 'he,cotad not procure the large amount of bail required, and that his difficulty had been increased . by the lamented death. of Mr. Foster, to whom he should have applied, and who had offered to be his security .for his former situation, but that he was ready and willing to give the security which the old corporation had taken (£1,500.), tUnder these circumstances, tha committee recommended, as a lest amount of security could not be taken, that they should proceed to the appointment of a sergeant. Mr. H. LAWRENCE suggested that the report be referred back to the committee, to see if some other arrangement could not vet be come to. The TOWN-CLERK said they had offered to take from - Mr. Parkinson four sureties of £o(X) etzeb, but this had been refused. Mr. LAWRENCE said that was just what he was about to recommend. Mr. WALAISLEY said any further arrangement with the ser geant•at-mace was impossible. The report was then adopted on the motion of Mr. Rathbone, seconded by Mr. li. Law rence. The TOWN CLERK announced that a petition had been pre sented to the Treasury from Mr. Parlour, on the subject of his claim for Compensation. This had been forwarded . by the Treasnry to the Mayor, to the purpose that he may ask the Council why they refuse compensation to Mr. Parlour. The subject was referred to the committee on compensations, that they may report to the Council. The M.s.YoR said in reference to what had fallen from Mr. Blackburn on the subject of referring to committees, and which he had formerly attempted to reply to, he begged to say that it had but seldom happened that they had granted full powers to any committee. They always had a due regard for their oWn dignity by directing that reports should be wade back to them selves. The Council then adjourned to Friday, the 30th inst. at eleven o'clock. THE BOTANIC GARDEN EXHIBITION. The second public exhibition of flowers and fruits at the Bo tanic Garden, and the last of the season, was held on Wednesday last, The weather, as on the previous exhibition, was extieniely favourable, being a fine, clear, bright September day, bracing with its freshness, As on the previous occasion, tents were erected along the top of the garden besides the greenhouses, forming a long promenade; down the centre ran a broad table, on which were placed the various flowers and fruits exhibited. A table at the upper end of the marquee was devoted to flowers, another below to fruits, and one on the extreme left to vegeta bles. humediatel% in front of this down the garden the foun tain played, exhibiting some very pretty devices: one in which an apple was poised on the top of a jet of water had a very pleasing effect. To ihe right of this a tent for refreshments was erected, tastefully hung round with ivy, and to the left Stubls' military band was stationed enlivening the scene with many beautiful airs. The garden since the last exhibition has im proved considerably in appearance, the shrubs looking bolder and the beds more thickly planted, taking away much front the naked appearance before presented. The unfinished part at the bottom of the garden is also now completed, and added much to the general appearance. Where before was ruin and chaos there is now a pool of water, in the centre having au arti fiieial rock which is converted into a fountain throwing up jets of water, which falls around it, and sutrouhding the pool is a mount of artificial rock. This forms an ornamental finish to that end of the garden, which before looked barren and unfi nished. The company was not so numerous as on the former occasion, which gave rather an air of flatne s s to th e exhibi- tion. Though numerous groups were parading about, yet the garden did not present any thing like the crowded and ani mated appearance which it did on the opening. The flower show also bore no comparison to the last; many of the plants before exhibited were again shown, and though there were seve ral rare specimens, yet generally the plants looked mean. 'Phis may be attributed in a great measure to the time of the year. The greenhouses, as before, were kept closed fur fear of injury to the plants. Of the fruit which was exhibited, however, we cannot speak too highly; it was beautiful beyond description; we never saw any superior to it; almost every kind of fruit was there in high perfection. The pines, grapes, melons, plums, apples, pears, &c. &c. were spread out in rich and luxu rious profusion. To give an outline of the exhibition—we ob served at the top of the flower table the same group of the cactm trtbe as were before exhibited. from the hothouse of C. Tayleur, Esq., one of which, a very rare plant, tha Semis Senilis, having the appearance of an old man's grey wig, won the prize. Below this was a very fine plant of the plantain tribe, the pro perty of the garden, the Strelit:ea Ocala. On the table were several baskets of flowers, plants, and bouquets of great beauty. A prize plant, the property of Thomas Littledale, Esq., pre sented also a striking appearance on the table, the Yucca Phila. mentosa; it is a very tall plant, bearing a bold white flower. An excellent specimen of the fern tribe, the Stag's Horn Fern, the property of Wm. Smith, Esq., obtained that prize. A new species of Tropaolum exhibited, from Valparaiso, Solith Ameri ca, is also deserving of notice, and obtained an extra prize; the property of Mr. Tomlins. The Balsams were very indifferent. The finest plant in the exhibition was an Eugenia Aqua, of the Myrtle tribe. It is a magnificent plant, and the first that has produced fruit in England; it bore three apples, of a fig shape, and of a deep and tine crimson colour. It is an East Indian plant, and the property of the garden. Below this were one or two fine specimens of Oeraniums, the property of Thomas Little dale, Esq. At the bottom of the table was a splendid plant, the Asclepias Solicifolia, beating a very singular flower resembling small green bladders. Near the bottom of the table was a very fine plant, the Antura Arborea, bearing a very white large bell shaped flower, the property of Mrs. Cropper. Near this were two or three very beautiful specimens ofCarcombs, the property (AN. Walker, Esq., the president. At the bottom was a fungus plant of the mushroom tribe, a very rare specimen, the property of Charles Horsfall, Esq., called the Petra Funqatia, the stone fungus, or mushroom stone, from the western coast of Africa. A gigantic specimen of the Crinurn Amabile, the property of Charles Horsfall, Esq., ended this table. On the next table a basket of dahlia bouquets, the property of Mrs. Preston, was very ornamental. Below this the display of dahliaS was very splendid, their variegated appearance having a pretty effect. Amongst the fruit was a beautiful globe pine, raised by hot water, the property of Mrs. Crossley, which obtained the first prize. A very beautiful basket of fruit, containing figs, pears, grapes, magnum bonum plums, and peaches, the property of Thomas Littledale, Esq., obtained the £5 prize given by the president. A basket of fruit, the property of Mr. Walker, also attracted a good deal of attention. A basket of fruit, containing some very fine grapes and some very beautiful pears, the property of Mrs. Cropper, obtained an extra prize. A basket of black grapes, the property of Mrs. Cropper, was also very fine. There was also a bunch of green grapes, weighing nearly slbs., which was very beautiful. Below this was a collection of apples and pears from the nursery of Mr. Whalley, of the South Crescent, which attracted much attention, there being almost every description of apple, and of the finest specimens. Below this the vegetables were arranged, and were very fine, especially the celery. The company began to disperse about four o'clock, as the af ternoon drew in cold. Subjoined we give a list of the prizes awarded : The best six Calceolarias—Messrs. Whalley. Pan of Carnations, consisting of seven blooms, viz.:— Perfection, Memnon, Rowtord, Bellerophon, Lady Hood, Prince George, and Princess Victoria—Mr. W. Thomson, of Everton. Six Coxcombs—J. N. Walker, Esq. Ferns—W. Smith, Esq., of Fulwood. Grapes, (Lombardy,)—Mrs. Cropper. Second prize of Grapes (Muscat)—Mrs. Preston. The best Pan of Panscvs—Charles Horsfall, Esq. Melon (Egyptian Green Flesh)—C. Tayleur, Esq. Orcbideee plant—W. Smith, Esq. Six Pelargoniums—T. Littledale, Esq. Pine—Mrs. Crossley. • Succulent Plant—C. Tayleur, Esq. Six Stove or Greenhouse Plants—Mrs. Cropper. Ditto (Second Prize)—Messrs. Whalley. Single Stove or Greenhouse Plant—C. Horsfall, Esq. Ditto (Second Prize)—Mrs. Cropper. Shrubbery Plant—Mess rs . Whalley. Herbaceous Plant—'l'. Littledale, Esq. Pan of Six Dahlias—Mr. 'l'. Fletcher. Ditto (Second Prize)—Mr. T. Walker. Three Heads of Celery—Mr. T. Walker. Basket of Vegtables, consisting of celery, parsnips, onions, carrots, French beans, turnips. cauliflowers, red beet, parsley, vegetable marrow, savoys, cucum bers, and cabbage--Mr. Walker. Second best basket of Vegetables, cauliflowers, onions, celery, cabbage, parsnips, French beans, lettuce, peas, carrots, and parsley—W. Smith, Esq. Best basket of cut flowers—J. N. Walker, Esq. Second ditto—R. W. Preston, Esq. • Best basket of plants—T. Littledale, Esq. Second ditto—J. N. Walker, Esq. 'l'he tt led President's Es (l g . ! ft for of the.f. 5 following was %sardfer ,u 1 fruits: — g rape„, th e r g u a p r e ,l „ en plumbs.cherries, nectarines, figs, strawberries , pears, currants,, ow es, and EXTRA PRIZES.—Petra: Fongaria, or Mushroom Stone —C. Horsfall, Esq. Preston.Nr ,r Tropwlium pl. nova—. s. -- Basket of Fru it, g ra p es, fi g s, apples, currants, Cut fl owers—Mr s. Apricots, melons, and lemons —W. Smith, Esq. Basket of Fruit , pines, melons, grap es, nec tarines, pears, and apples—Charles Tay- Ba l s e k u e r i , i , '-' ; "1. Fruit, grap es, pears, and apples— Mrs. — Crupper. Ministers are, it is . said, anxi ous t o i nduce his Majesty to consent to an immediate diss o luti on o f Parliament. The re actionimmediate )1. ) which IS taking place ' , twin:. opinion, an d the rearts which have reached them f rom al l quarters, of the state of the Conserva tive registry all over the country for the ensuing year, a h as,. ,,ppalled them. They would f a i n t a k e advantage of the g) •tation they h a v e contrived to excite on the subject or peer afze reform, and make that supply the watch-word with which Parliamentary reform, supplied them cti a former occasion. The great Conservative meetings in Lancashire, Kent, Bucks, Essex, and Suff,ilk, and the result of nearly all the recent elec tions :rave struck them with consternation and dismay. Let the dissolution take place when it may, they will gain no influ ence by the change. If they await the result of next year's registration they will cut a still snore sorry figure.—Surrey Standanl. According to Mr. O'Connell, the Whigs have now no hope but in throwing themselves into the arms of the Hadicals; an act of desperation which we should not be at all suprised to see them adopt. In fact, by moderate men of all parties, not eveu excluding their own, the poor Whigs are universally scou ted and disclaimed; and they appear, therefore, to have no ithe alter native left but to give up the contest altogether, or f alliance which their dictator points out to them. He , it is true, sweetens the draught and gilds the pill, by telling them it .. will "popularize'' their Administration. But what a precious species of popularity must that be which discards_ the sense and property of a country, for an alliance with Popery in Ireland and noisy sedition at home. As a forlorn hope the Whigs may attempt it; but forlorn hopes generally end in the sacrifice of those who resort to them. FUNERAL OF TilE LATE TiioMAS FOS ; TEit; fitil4. t • • o.n. Wednesday morning the melancholy duty ,of interring t.i mortal remains of the late Thomas Foster, Esq., brought over from Calais, by Mr. Lloyd, was completed. In.a late publica tion,- we noticed the :leaden death of this respected, and dis tinguished gentleman ; .a n o ccurence :Which cast • gIPVtli on the inhabitants of this town, and which has by all partieS been re gretted. As was anticipatetl, great numbers pt . the anhabitanta expressed a wish to pay a last tribute of respect to his Memory, by attending the funeral, or sending their carriages ; i but it was intimated to them that the relatives of Mr. Foster were .anxiotis to carry out his l as t ex p resse d w i s h, " l e t rue .- be buried quietly in Walton Church ward,'' and that there should be as little dis play aS possible. fn furtherance of.this wish, Messrs. Edward Haworth, and Co., of Bold-street, the undertakvis, hail instruc , tions that the funeral should b e as s i m pl e , - an d :.unoste nt a tious, as it could be made. In consequence, the futieril . procession, which, left .Woolton about half-past, • nine o'clock, vinsiste4 merely,.of the hearse, which was drawn by four horsesoming to the weight of the leaden coffin, and.three mourning cotich4s, filled.by. the deceased's near relations, and followed by his mo ther's private carriage. On the mournful: party arriving at Walton Church„ , they were met by a large concourse of persons ; amounting to about 400, many of whom were the leading gentry, clergy, and mer chants of Liverpool, whose attendance prootted by respect for his private and public virtues was infinitely more impressive and must have been more Soothing to the feelings of the friends and relatives of the deceased than could bave been the most ostentatious.. parade of the ..trappings ef...Woe. Aniongst the numerous mourners were nearly all the members of the old cot poration,, a great number of the legal professiOn of Liverpool, as well As other gentlemen or the town., We observed : James Aspinall, Esq., ( the. late vtayor,) Nicholas Robinson, Esq., Sir llamas Braneker, Rev. Rector Campbell, Rev. J.. B. Monk, Lieur.-Colonel St. George, John Deane Case, Esq., Rev. Thomas Bold, Rev. T. G. Leigh, Rev. Thomas Halton,. John Shaw Leigh, Esq., Ambrose Lace, Esq., T. Carson, Esq., Thomas Tobin, Esq., N. D. Bold, Esq., T. 0. Bold, Esq., C. S. Parker, Esq., H. S. Sandbach, Esq., T. B. Hors fall, Esq., Wm. Gregson, Esq., Chas. Lawrence, Esq.,Mfr. Daniel Mason, Mr. Richard Dawson, J. A Tinne,, ,Esq., Samuel Turner,. Esq., H. FL Statham, Esq., Mr. Chas: Loweo Mr. C. FalCon, •Mr. R. IL Frank, Mr. Jobe Askew, John Stewart, Esq':,.Mr. John Sudlow, Mr. John Weightman, p. Bushby, Esq., Raymond W. Houghton ; Esq., Peter Wright, Esq., Mr. Thos. Kaye, Mr. John Pennington, Mr. Rob e rt. Clay, Mr. John Hand, Mr. Amos, M. Henry Moss, Mr. John. Sandars, &c. &c. The chief mourners were Messrs. John, William, James, and Richard Foster, the brothers of the-deceased; his brothers-in law, Messrs. Halton and Lloyd, and , the brother-in-law of Mrs. Foster. 'rhe pall-bearers were Me. Foster's nephews, the Rev. Mr. Hull, Mr. Troutbeck, and Mr. `Brawn. On reaching the gates of the chilrehxard the spectators formed an avenue to the church «loor, threilgh , which the mourn-. ful assemblage passed and entered the church, Mr. Clarke, the organist, playing a solemn dirge. The funeral service was then read in the most solemn and impressive manner by the Rev. Jonathan Brooks, the senior rector of Liverpool; alter which,. amid the lamentations <nd .heartfelt sorrow of his bereaved re latives and friends, the remains of our late distinguished towns were committed to the tomb. We do not doubt that had not the public dutieS of the present Mayor required his attend ance at a council Meeting, sitting at the time, but he would have done honour. to his feelings as a gentieman, : anda .puhfie Alm, by attending the. funeral, to show his respect for the worth and mernory of the late Town7.elerk, TO THE EDITOR OF TIM LIVERPOOL STANDARD. • Sth,-1 read with iptich pleasure in your paper uf 'ruesday, the admirable description of popery, as a novelly, contrasted with genuine christianity, received under the name of protes-. tautisin ; and I beg to inform you and your numerous readers that the passage is an extract from the Rev. Li ugh M`Neile's sermon on the. character of the church,pf 4time, which he has, thrown down as the `• first blow" of the cOnfroversv with Mr. Maguire.—l am, &C., SP ECTATO R. LIVERPOOL TEACHERS' SOCIETY. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ,01.4.i.rD.1RD. • SIR,—As the,secret a ry of th e Liv er p oo l leachers' Book Sn-,. ciety I feel it my Outy,to rebut th e erroneous statements con.) cerning it, which appeared in your paper of yesterday, and I du so from a oelief that you have been misled by exparte state ments. In the first place it is stated that that society is composed ex clusively of dissenters,—this is not correct, for, un looking over the list of its members, I find that the majority are also mew-. bers of the establishment. In the Fecund place, it is stated that. the society, whose interests you advocate, is honoured with the, patronage of our worthy rectors,—this, also, must be incorrect,. fur I hold a letter from one of them in which he expressly avows his determination not to interfere with it, either directly or in directly. Now, sir, your informant must have been aware that his state— ments to you were untrue, and as they may (if uncontradicted) operate to the prejudice of the reverend gentleman above al luded to, I considered it my.duty to trouble you with this ex planation, in order that you might have, an opportunity of re tracting thetn.—l ant, &c., .JAMES STAPLES. 3, Spriuy•street, 21st September, 1836. TO THE EDITOR OP THE LIVERPOOL. STANDARD. Sia,—A parigraph, f rom n correspondent, relative to the. , 1 Liverpool Te,reher's Society appeitared in the Mail of Satur day last. Perhaps you will allow a person w.no belonged to it for some time to•say a few words on the subject. The society, in its origin, was intended to embrace the mas- : ters of all the free schools in Liverpool; but in the outset it was discovered that the society (which was merely a reading one). was conducted in such a manner that very many respectable teachers of church schools objected ,most decidedly to join it.. The consequence was, that these masters of Church schools who had connected themselves with it found them Selves in a minority. Several works were introduced into the society of a nature which had no reference !o education; indeed it was never contem plated that such book Should be purchased with money devoted to educational purposes alone. I might mention Hewitt'a ' " History of I'riestcraft," " Pelham," and some other of But wer's novels, together with periodicals avowdly advocating Socinian principles ! At length it was determined, by a few individuals, to .en deavour to torn' a society, on the principles of the Established' Church, and in which, of course, all the masters of the Chu rc h. Schools in Liverpool could conscientiously unite. This this been accomplished, and a society has been instituted, under • the patronage of the Rev. the Rectors, and the Church Of England School Society. . I could say much more with regard to the observations of the correspondent of the Mail, Gut I content myself with asserting, that no " plans of tuition," have been communicated at the. meeting, and that no " theories on education," have been dis-, cussed, and further, that the experiment of bringing together . the teachers of different schools, by means of such a soc i e ty, has totally failed.—l am, sir, yours, &c. vERITAs. P.S.—I may as well mention, that the mastets of only 'even . Church Schools were connected with the former society whereas, there are upwards of twenty schools attached to the Established Church in Liverpool. LWe beg to refer our readers to an advertisement which alt• pears in another column.—En. STAMM UD.I In further illustration of this subject, we append tlie follow ing note from a correspondent :--- "The Secretary of the Liverpool Teachers' Eook Society,' having heard, that for reasons whidi have alreadiappeared iu the public papers, the Church Schoolmasters were about to in stitute another Reading Society, he immediateky wrote to Mr. Campbell, requesting him to use his influence, putting it. down. The rev. gentleman refused to do su, by stating that he would not interfere either directly or indirectly. • The Church Schoolmasters' Reading Society has,.;eceived; the patronage and support of the Church of England Schou!: Committee, of which the Rev. Rectors aru members; hence the patronage of the Rectors of Liverpool. B." LIVERPOOL MUSICAL FESTIVAL. . if ITO Till? EDITOR OF TIII? LIVERPOOL STANDARD. Stn—As the time appointed for our festival is fast approach ing, I take the opportunity, through the medium of your paper, of offering a few remarks upon it. Nothing is now talked ot but ti. , ! Manchester Festival. It wits in every one's mouth " What preparations the Manchester people are making P• taut . There was a time • scarce a sYll.a.boleh.isits,l,-).(itlebne of a e t t h i e l,i ! ie it t • e er t p a o il o u l re Fe r s , tiva x‘ l, l o l or, h it , i, i, mentioned, y s mild, it he a failure ? Why should the .Manchester people vulgarism) so completely take the shine out of I l s ? (toB use a cstiva be sneered at, and. Because i ch - aracter be lost to t , fi h e n y n h i ale e t i u p o n r n e l spirit, yic td„ t e li % e .e i r ) y ., l l l i i i i , n t g u they t ,) uttleo.ci t N. . in the spirit of her undertakings. And why shou,d that Why should the Liverpool F her? reported a "complete failure," three or four months before the time 7 The Manchester people have taken our • have been trying, in every p oss ibl e w3Y, year, it is true, and to outdo us in their preparations , particularly those for the Fancy Bill. Now, let them inclose all the principal streets in the town, and I defy them to have any rooms equal i m But still, there wants a ffitveit‘ n magnificence to our T o wn-h a ll. The balls are always held there,. mid there is no change : th e y .. are always fitted up in the saute manner—the Exchange-room connected by a narrow passage. Now we know that nothing charms an Eng-fish public so much as novelty—in fact, nothing will do without 't I would therefore st , " r . the following: Let the whole area of the Exchange be routed thewith a waterproof awning, or any thing most convenient II"' flier, of course, hoarded. The outside of the 'Town-hall brilliantly il A l k u l T , ii ,e a s ted, and i Nelson's Monument hung round with lamps. tray produced. i firmed,y and, altogether, a most splendid effect P may behat could be mote beautiful, than looking out of the Tin windows into the area, and seeing it lighted up in that manner. The effect would be grand in the extreme. It stay • niter. seemn doing arduous undertaking, but the 'Manchester people have . bet a good deal more, and will find it difficult to f o r m auvt i i . ng o h in a f , so grand. If £1,001) were expended, I am confident that u ill M t ' would be made. That one sentence, " W hat preparations ' b the. Liverpool people are making!" woud hrin ,, t lun b i ers over for tke sake of variety. I wish, Sir, tinit this ' e thought of, and there is nothin . g I should like more, than w t aY to see my sugges tions carried into execution. Our festival will be the Nain, last, and let it be a grand winoing up.—,l • ii r, your obedientm Servant, ClVl$. SEA WATER TO THE METRoPOLIS.—The directors of the Thames Haven Dock and Railway Companv have lately had a plan submitted to them, whereby the invaiis, which will be at. their disposal, when the railroad shall have, been c arried into effect, will enable theta to convey to London a great body of sea water. The.features of the plait are extremely simple, and power to trans of pipes being laid.parallel with the.rail"Y , as such ensure the certainty of success.. They c onsist chiefly and as the ground experienced wiII be nearly level, it will require a very small mit to the extreme end of the line a sufficient quantity of water if cir . to supply all th&olemands which will consequently spring up to the metropolis. In the year 1825,,1he idea or conveying sea water to London was considered o sufficient importance to call for the existence ‘if a joint stock company, but owing to various circumstances which immediately followed the announcement, theti plan Has effects a o s f t' eg salt-waterieCtl . I 1 i'tihi Those I s l e g i t ) r e i l l ' l s ° a n p s p re . h e ' : a t h e "e the a d plan, or any other to the same intent, vantages ~ tied into effect, will create over the existing state of the pre • which this litan bathing establishments. h will dace within sent melt olni. ties the luxuries which are , ov , I reach of ail par N only to be sacrifice in time and money, by j uurne - . ' obtained dt.a great pendently of the pecuniary advantao .ying to the coast. bd i;lan, by the Thames Haven Railway lB, t‘) be derived by this directors are called upon ,ompany,we think the to carry ' of our feeling convinced that - it into effect, in consequence . the metropolis will Ire its means t the health of the inhabitants of be greatly benefited. Chief Baron J o y, ,:f i t gerously ill at Naples _l7 Irish Excliequer, is said to be dan,: a visit to Consta ' , which city he had reached on his way to ntiuople. We regret to h e Dudley. in .nauy _it , r , that the scarlet fever prevails much at. inmate. —xid i dcmin f; , nilies it lief, proved fatal to more than one Th q T„,,,ctoun . 34 "r Messenger. . . cil of Salist u 1 ry resolved lest. weelt,.tn..caru i , on their iruceedin , i . w. the _ al l ~. t o with .. .closed doom, and that nu teliorteti i bin. press he adulated.