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Th bar ° no rrt ter' ,z the of St. habit ,n2 I. May 7, 1844. CORRESPONDENCE. MR• COLVILLE'S MEASURE AND THE LIVERPOOL BUILDERS. TO t, T H E EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. ' 3ll t,—ln my l as t I en d eavoure d to s how the unjust and tincon stitutional character of this measure. I shall now Confine myself to its effects. There are two points of view from which this measure, ty, ln i 4,, effects, must be considered—the first is as it relates 1.,--„ the landlord only—assuming that he could nit be able, v s:: /): means, to reimhurse hie - tself of the rate iinp ,sed U Pon him as owner. The other point of view is, as it operate upon the cottage tenant in c ise the owner pould raise the rent to cover the projeeted dedu tion ~r nal his profits. I shall now apply myself to the first I Ta'nf the question. I would, by the way, observe, that ' la is the only point of view in which the legislatnre can c onside r this measure. I should suppose that Mr. Colville , 4° ,es not even think of the possibility of the landlord ob rni" the rate from the tenant in any way, for hat would e fatal to the enactment, inasmuch as it would renount to a declaration, that a rate upon the owner instead of the °ccaltier, would be ' inoperative, the legislatuie will there fore Proceed upon the assumption that the landlord only will be affected by the impost. its• ' T he niost si ngu l ar f ea t ure o f thi s m e as ure, as regards o P e ration, is its inequality. I would illustrate it thus, Ate a shopkeeper deriving from his business, say .£3OO per annum, he occupies a house which is assessed at £35, and ! Pa Ys ill poor rates upon the said house (calculating at the Present rate) £3 15s. 10d.; B is a builder, receiving annually £3OO in rents from cot•age property, and upon bWhich he lives, h e a l so occup ies a house assessed at £35, n u t having to pay poor rates upon his income, as well as IK'n the house he occupies, he contributes annually to t he Poor fund £36 odd, but the income of B is, to a great extent, nominal, he has a mortgage upon his property, the annual interest of which is .£lOO, which, deducted 'ue rro m th „_ e gross re nt , l eaves •hi m on ly £2OO i ncom e. A and ia n would stand thus- .A with £3OO per annum to live II." ' w"ld pay £3 15s. 10d. poor rates, while B , with that £2OO i ncome, would have to pay £36 odd. I protest is V'd° not intend arty invidious comparisons; all I wish MeasC emo nstrate the obnoxious inequality which this law acre would effect. The test and principle of the poor Pay 1 ; is ability,. to pay ; yet here is one class that would men Pe ' Pcn t• uPen his in-ome, while another, with less 12Met would be compelled to cont-ibute to the tune of un per cent. I maintain that any enactment operating so this e q us it among individuals of equal means, as would , must be radically bad. It would be a disgrace to the statute book of England, unjust! intolerable 1! But its effe cts upon cottage buildings would be synonimous with a prohibition upon that class of builders. i cottace bu i!d ers'in this town are, _ rnnstoat great The ten! , w m th ort u , t agee is in capital— their owners hip is_ a 1 Thany cases the bona fide nwn-r. There are scores of houses which, if brought to the hammer, would not re,dize More than the mortgage money and expenses of sale,. yet the mortgagee, the wealthy man, would be exempt from this rate, and the a cottage builder a o Id be the care. worn toil-worn slave, paying tour rate noon a portion of the mortgagee'srtgagee's income, arni also the taxes of his tenant. There are peculiar burdens upon, arid d fficulties belong- Ing , to, s ma ll p ro p er ty which man; entirely overlook. As for instance, the great wear and tear, losses from rents and empty houses to an extent unknown to the owners of larger property. Well, take this into acc.out.t. and add to it the mortgagee's interest at 5 per cent., and a property tax; and there will be no difficulty i t at once concluling, Tug yux.s. that if to all this there be superadded a poor rate UPON Itstisse ke , the days i.f cottage building, in this toven at least, are numbered; iii fart, the sooner the •tteltilecne.be divested, builderii qui t his trade the better will it he fir him, and lie exis or rather robked, of his means of man a widow But the effects of this measure would be. in y c ases, a species of refined erne]ty. Take the ease of with four or' five childten living upon time surplus rental c triou s h°. property left to them by a hard-working. indus triousd and father ; a tax such as the one under copSide r ation would be t o them, not only oppress . ve but It has its ;unions. It has been said, that property has its duties as ell as its rights. The converse, howev, r, is equhll v true, rights ' as will as its cubes—the one equally as sacred as the other. I denounce Mr Colville's measure, aznobjaencti aani invasion of those rights—the poor rate being a per pernot a property tax. The occupier is the pro fore hc for a parochial a-sessment. The owner, there in rates ° may be holding ten cottages, would have to pay ; distributed a amount that should, by law and equity. he alth o in its imposition amongst ten individuals, not ugh, in pecuniary circumstances, it may be that he is trust sedul)ne shilling better than any one of his tenants. I able tTi"eit o nslY abstain from declamation, as I really dare riot to a description of the measure. Is it post the be d e -or. tbe tr i m "' f Mr• Colville sees as other men see ? What is which the cottage buider is to do penance • • "rived fh• i .of sustentation ? Why is it th at he 0 is on y m ans . . . . si cm f lly as should be singled out for legislative oppres prod II useful and as deserving as any other &ass of the ir ! s ? I see no reason why he sheuld be thrust from righter hi of industry. He has a right —a God-given ,i..to live and to thrive by the sweat of his brow ; but ro u' a 12iiiiech Mr. Colville would, it appears, (unknowingly it r n the/ ) depri ve hi m. I cannot, however. trespa4s tor build "ur space. 1 must reserve the subject of shoutd a p u b lic g. societies and the cottage tenant to your next t ° n• if the insertion of anether letter from me and I • nteli ' i consiAent wi•h justice to your other numerous gent correspondents. LiverP°° 4 4 th May, 1814. ILLAUDATUS. LE TTER FROM AN ORANGEMAN. TO TH E been to EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. ,81R, —Permit me through your widely circulated jour expre•s my surprise at the aspersions which have oeen thrown noon that truly loyal Protestant and inde pendent body —the Orangemen of England. The time is bow arrived when it becomes the duty of every tree born and loyal subject to asserts his rights in a land where true Protestantism ought to be triumphant, and to be supported up in all its purity. As brethren w: are united to a man to uphold the dignity of our monarch and the constitute )ri as by law established. Are:we then to be branded and held up to scorn be cause we are loyal, and supporting those endeared and fundamental principles, " Our glorious Constitution in Church and State. Or is there a determination—as it Would appear —to root out al those bright jema for which .our forefathers suffered at the stake, and to let rampant . uPon us the horrors of popery, and the dogs of war ! if such be the intention, we wish them ta st•eak out, and Uot as the bight assassin to st a b us i n th e d ar k ? 'e invite every man who is a lover of his country, and of the true Protestant church, to read our I,,ws, and to judge fo r hi mself whether they are not found on the true 18 of a Ch r i st i an spirit. That all power and authority have their origin from God, and that one creature is not Placed over another, except by the pro‘idence and will of 411111 who is over all, cannot be denied, and by conse quence all the authority we have over men by our laws is to be improved far God; and the chief objects of autho rity in our institution, as may be gathered from our laws, 44:11Is tp e be of use to our fellow creatures, and to restra l i u n tio tc ., t wrurage virtue. This, therefore, is my d re6 hall be furthe t Pleased ever amtaor authority the most high Go to 114 t of th e "esluopr?nrn e Oble w ct i s li extendin g as my y b s l d e u s : l , l • lg to s - Oran ge Institution, t l t o y o e k x t u e p n o d n i ni Yours, &c.. AN ORANGEMAN. - - % Mr ' Youatt, in one of his orations to the members of Veterinary College,' observes, " that by the improve -14) hts modern c h em i stry , t h e me di ca l pro f ess i on are :unable(' successfully to t reat di seases w hi c h were prev i ous ly tr Pposed as no t w i th i n the reach of medicine." This uth has been manifested for many yews. but in no in a.r.anne of greeter import ance to man ki n d than b y t h e discovery of " Blair's Gout and Rheumatic Pills."—See advt . MR. SAMUEL LOVER'S FORTHCOMING ENTERTAIN.. "(ENT IN LivEßPooL.—We fully altars in the pleasure the announcement of Mr. Lover's appearance in Liver- Pool, in his new and fashionable entertainment, entitled " Irish Evenings," seems to have created among our contemporaries and the public generally. In a locality like this, where party feeling runs so high as occasionally to render even intellectual. enjoyments inaccessible to One or other portion of the commun;ty, it will be gratify ing to our readers to learn that Mr. Lover's entertain ments are entirely exempt from all party allusions what ever, and that they are in reality what they profess to be —an accumulation of anecdote, song, and legendary lore --the production of one of the most original and variously sifted minds in the annals of a country prolific bey on d all others in the growth of genius, like that so character istically developed in this minstrel poet. With the ready ttantry and tact proverbial in all his brother-hood, Mr. iover intends, we understand, to select the illustration of 'is songs from the vocal talent of each place he may visit 911 his provin c i a l t our . W e h ope b e w ill b e as f ortunate i h rl t his respe c t as h e h as b een h ere, w h ere, we b e l ieve, h e It s Secured the services of Miss %V hitnall ,nd Mr. It yells. To t tah liallt--At the toilet, no greater anxiety is more -er-o ea `Y felt than the consideration of perfecting that titifuf or • natina o r nament, the hair! The delightful and fasei edsmi4aarms of a fine head of ba r being the most ndi,illdecoration of either sex. The features of eyes inegp r a e l 'PRY be irregular and ill-proportioned, or the attribute atAve, but with the po.session of this essential ma ny thin n° countenance can look absolutely plain. Like the 1 '44 11 4 3 o f much importance, but lightly estimated, a nd ita d a variety of causes) is frequently neglected, heal th .._cay is °len the first symptom of declining I, o und I f t o wnen such is the case, the sufferer anxiously lioks pf th e ~r...B"rte effectual remedy to arrest its progress. Prottotin"ulnerous compounds constantly announced for s Urive, the .growth, pr reproduction of the Hair, few It u kilet R` 0 1 .;: 1 1 in name, beyond a very limirea period ; 111Paraltele,LAND'S MACASSAR OIL, with a reputation : t he si new Q, still on the increase in public estimation. a r Z i # 4 , a : "Ines of this successful invention for re- Th e '° 4ii er ving, and beautifying the Human Hair, very f known and appreciated to need comment. "Jc'Ys : s g ac ts of the higha n d kier on I t en e . s u , v , tes t i r!ll use m all countries, toge ther 'Llnriti es Znlals constantly received n its our s ,fa . ure ov er pr all ette Which stamp its superior excellence iile t 8 consequent of ee rred i t in Pta of a similar nature. Being univer s ally tvowLkl,%ttca rash a:4'44d shook h vend most st.ui it us great demand excites the cupidity te nh . 4 th e „ cepers, p 0 the tto Vine 1 ,. G EN Macassar Oil : whereas the i tt ep s wl - tolly the Mvention and property al )° , e nip/erica ON ' and the amalgamation of its costly th us p r e any (solely imported by them,) enders th e aroso.' ''''''ttript to dscover its component parts— th. titl e gtl ; or, le .11positif roof all other articles bearing , tr v a wpm, ir t acassp r The genuine article lilt- PPer ' All OWLAND'S MACAS , :AR OIL" on t e Others are FRAUDULENT COUNTERFEITS ! , • den this 7orcester !holar of ye, Rev. ;e, Wor n Cobb, St. Mary minders; Middle- Richard Stopford 3agshaw, 'e; John terbuck, Williaut Buisson, Pigou, Thomas Exeter; d Wall, -Princi Oxford, the pre he convert . Thos. of the Sunday' Bishop ace, on shop of Tcester, bishop. he Rev. States. tified to ightles# extew• with, at to the , own 85 roe time ridation vith the also ill best in— College brie, in miAt vise for in the TOWN CO UNCI L PROCEEDINGS. OnWe,ifles , t , v, the u-aal moot l 4' rn-eting of the Gameil was held at the rwrii..!thil, - me MAYOR tOOk the chin at eleven o'clock, at w ,i;;11 time there were 23 nie.nhe , s in their respective place-. THE WATCH COMMITTEE.-TILE MAGISTRACY.- ORANGEISM AND RIBBO,ISM. Mr. ASPINALL asked the Mayor to have the proeeedin e s of tee Watch C ,mirett•e read in the first instance. Fie miide the applka - iun in consecpieriee of he ng obliged to knee town, on business of a melancholy na• tire. at on- o'cl ick, and as the ci , a•rrean of the corn. iniitee would be unable to at t n l the Council that day. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCU ex t ressed his willingness to con tint to lie applicatio ~ under t e circumstances stated. Mr. H. HORN BY tiloU4ht it ex rem ly desirable tat the proceedings should he read in the presence of a full Council, as tnev involved considerati its of a somewhat unusual character. He und-rstood that ohservations were to he made respecting the conduct of the magis tracy. Mr. ASPINALL said he was in hopes that discussion arising out of the proceedings would he postpened for the present, as a case was about to be drawn up for the opinion of eminent compel, touching the powers of the magistracy and the conirrotee. M ORNDY, under these circumstances, observed that his objection was entirely withdrawn. Mr. II ARBORD said he should feel it necessary, for the protection ot his own character as a public ma to bring forward a subject in which he was individually concerned, arid ripen which he expected a certain member of the Ginned, then in his place, to sad:4'y him on a particular point. Upon the motion of Mr. ASPINALL, the proceedings were then rea t. It appeared from those proceedings that the Mayor (having heard that some of the polies-officers of the borough were members cf Orange and Ribbon So cieties), together with Mr. Rushton, had crime to the determination, that any constable who was a member of an Orange or Ribbon Society, was deemed by them ineli gible for the situation of a police-officer in the town of Liverpool, and unfit for police duty. Inquiries were then directed to he made ; Mr. Whit y, Mr. Miller, and Mr. Dowling were consulted ; and the head constable reported that seven of the force had acknowledged themselves to be Orangemen, and that others were members of three Catholic benefit societies. A meeting of the boraneh magistrates was then called, at which the foregoing facts were detailed, and at which the following resolaitio r. pro posed by Mr Rn hton, and seconded by Mr. B Aeon, was adopted :—" That no man who is a member of either an Orange or Ribbon Society shall he permitted to belong to the police force of this borough, and that all members of the present force now belonging to either of those so cieties shall be regitir , d forthwith to withdraw fr , on them, arid that in case of refusal the Mayor and mag.strates will feel it their duty to dismiss them from the force." An amendment was moved by Mr. Hodgson, but, for the want of a seconder, fa 11 to the ground. Mr. Miller then read the resolution of the magistrates to the seven Orangemen in the force, who - immediately declared their willingness to withdraw from the Orange Society, but at the saute time reque ted that copies of the rules and orders of that society rreght be laid before the Mayor and ma is. trates. Then followed a corresuondence which had taken place between the Mayor and Mr. Aspinall (the deputy chairman of the Watch Committee), touching the pro. ceedings of the magistrates, which proceedings, it ap pi ared, were not, in the first instance, commit uuiated to that coninrittr e ; and lastly, there was the fol owing reso lution to which the Watch Committee hail come :—" Twat the Town-clerk be requested to prepare a case for the opinion of one or more eminent counsel as to the powers ot the Watch Committee and the justict s. in respect to the diend sal of the constables, and on ael points which have arisen or may arise as to the marraeement of the police, or the separate duties of this committee and the justices in relation thereto; also upon the poiros now raised by the proceedings of the justices in relation to the expelling of Orangemen and Ribhonmen from the police as ineligible; and that until the opinion be received, the further consideration of the matter and the proceedings of the committee be postponed." Mr. ASPIN ALL, seconded by Mr. Thornhill, having moved the confirmation of the proceedings, Mr. HARBORD said that perhaps that was the time for him to make a statement relative to the proceedings of the Watch Committee. in which he was individually con cerned—(hear). As a member of that committee, he availed himself of the opportunity to bring under the notice of the council a certain report, which appeared in the Liverpool Journal of Saturday last ; hut, before he ventured to read any portion of that report, he had to request the permission, of the Council to put a question to a member of their no,ly as t.. whether what was stated in the Jour , oal was substantially correct. He hoped he should be a lowed to do this, as his character, as a public man, was very much involved at the present time. The M• YOR. —Certainly, you can ask may question you like ; hut, )ou know, it is optional with the parties to answer tot. Mr GLADSTONE.—Is it the pleasure of the Council that Mr. Herbord should have this permission? He wants to nut a question to me, to know whether a report is correct, before l►e has read that report. Mr. HARBORD sal,' he had not mentioned Mr. Glad stone's name. and that if patience were evinced, the re port should be read. To ensure the attendance of Mr. Gladstone. It had sent a no , e to that gentleman the day before, telling him that he was goitre to put a question to him in Cooncil. Mr. Gladstone must know that other people had ears and understanding as well as himself: and it was therefore considered necessary to communicate with him, so as to ensure his attendance there that day. Mr. GLADSTONE.—I assure you I have not attended here in pursuance of your summons. Mr. 11 ARBORD.—I hope if I act as a gentleman to wards Mr. Gladstone, he will act the same towards me— (hear). I have not summoned him Mr. GLADSTONE —There is an insinuation here. Mr. fi 10 I 8;13 , it wouldbe an ungentle manly act, on my part, to summons him, and that I have nor done so. The MAYOR. ---I understand Mr. Gladstone to say that lie did not attend in consequence of your summons. Mr. I-1 ARBORD,—I say I trust I know how to conduct Ile th e has ee e n a c t ii myself as a gentle man towards him ; a n d 1 t rus t h e w il l be able to act as a gentletria m. I can gentleman towards e. assure tempted twice to interrupt that, although my feelings are very much hurt, I came here not to show the slightest acrimonious feeling to wards any person, but rather inclined to believe thatwhat Mr. Gladstone has said of me was owing to a want of judgment. and not with any intention to hurt my feelings. —(hear, hear). I have been determined for twelve months past never to allow my natural feelings to he brought into action to the des•ruction of my better judgment; and I hope Mr. Gladstone will live to know that I am not a man of revengeful feelings, or that I entertain any desire to insult. But, as an independent member of society, I shall oalte all the stens I can to protect my character as a sated whic h th p u u s rp m o u rt c s h , t 0 1 n b o e w a turn port b th l i e c o r f i e n apd individual . meetingr diuna Havi ng . o 7 . -Journal, ts l t r h n the m . agistrates on business con nected with Orangemen in the police force: and from this it anpears that Mr. Gladstone expressed his entire con currence in what had fall-n from Mr. Rathbone, and said •' he c.msidered it highly improver that such a per son as Mr. Harbord, the Grand Master of the Orange Lodges, should be a member of the Watch Committee." I beg to ask Mr. Gladstone if that is substantially cor rect ? Mr. GL A DSTONR.—Ts 't the pleasure of the Council that I should reply to the question ? I shall take the votes of the Council on that point. (Oh !) The MAYOR.-1 think it optional with you to answer. Mr. H. LAWRENCE.—It is not for Mr. Gladstone to ask the pleasure of the Council on such a point. He has been asked a question. and it is for him to answer it or not, as he pleases ; but we are not constituted a Council to investigate such a matter. (Hear, hear.) Mr. GLAnsToNa.—Well, then, I have no hesitation in saving that if this had been a matter which referred to my conduct, as a member of the Council, I should have thought it necessary to give Mr. Harbord every informa tion, so far as was consistent with what is right and proper, connected with the matter. But, as this information re lates entirely to my duty as a magistra'e, I conceive that I am now acting in jostice to myself and the other ma gistrates of the borough when I say, that in no way hold ing myself amenable to Mr. Harbord in the matter, I must distinctly and uneqUivocally refuse to give any in formation as to the report, whether correct or incorrect ; and that, taking my stand on that, I shall make no fur ther remarks on the subj,ct. Mr. H AR130RD...-4 should not think of remaining on the Watch Committee until the pleasure of the Council was known ; and I now challenge Mr. Gladstone to move that I be suspended from the committee. The MAYOR.—Yon cannot make that motion. Mr. HARBORD.—I trust I may have that justice done to me. lam connected with a public board, and if a sus. picion rests in the breast of any man that 1 am incapable to discharge its duties pronerly, put me in a position in which I may set myself right. I must either retire or be subject to taunts. The MAYOR.—If there is no personal, there certainly is no legal objection to you. None was ever stated, or at attempted to be stated. Mr. ISAAC HOLME4 thought the cases analogous. If an individual, who happened to be a member of the Orange Society, should not be in the police force, surely the Grand Master of the Orangemen should not be on the committee. Mr. Harbord's challenge was fair. (Hear.) Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE suggested to the Council the .pr , priety of asking Mr. Herbord if he thought himself a member of an illegal society. Mr. HARBORD believed that he was a member of a body who were exclusively loyal, and who were constitu ted to uphold the laws of the country and the Protestant government. He should say that any sound Protestant was in his heart an Orangeman. (Hear, hear.) In fact, all the laws and regulations of the society were laid open to the public, who were invited to join, merely that they might be banded together to maintain the laws and institu tions of the country : and therefore, with these objects in view, he was under the impression that it was not only a legal but a legally constituted body. (Hear.) Mr. H. HORNBY thought the discussion out of order, and that they were not justified in questioning any pro ceedings which might have taken place before a body of macistrates, who met without reporters being present. Mr. HARBORD hoped his position would be considered by the council. If a common policeman, who was a re cognised Orangeman, was considered unfit for the force, surely otao e h; ° T e r. ?. v H.) wh must owas be egun a ll n y di honorary uali member ofan t o o n i t , i h m e Watch would omm thei tt e r a H I e c h o o u p r e a d g e t h t o o s r e i s w e h a o n objected to him w ould h ave the mor al courage to rise and object to him. He challengPa any one to do it then. Mr. H. HORNBY said that if it was competent to make the objection, he, for one, would have the moral ermine to do so, not ecause Mr. Flatb d ord e had d r discharged his s unfairly, for he had always t h e misvery pro perly. THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. The M Aron, :—Dut you cannot : it cannot be a ground of disquiliticitiln, and therefore it is not competent for any snem )er of the council to urg-• it as one. Mr. PARiCERt wised to know from the Town-clerk wh•ther the Orange Society was a legal society, or whe ther it was n t. Mr. THOMPSON thought it better to postpone the latter question for the present. Mr. H. LAwax•sce said that no one wool I think of di sm issine th• magis•rates because they belonged to the Ref , rar ur Cart m Club., and that he certainly should not be the person to vote for Mr. Harbord's removal because he belonged to the Orange Society. Mr. THOMPSON expressed his regret that neither Mr. Gladstone nor any of the other magistrates in council had answered Mr. Harbord's question. He expected that the magistrates, feeling the position in which they had pltced the Watch Committee, would have given every in'orma tion in their p men That committee felt that they were placed in a very strange position by the proceedings of the magistrates, which had taken place behind their hacks; and the only information they could get, as to why the proceedings were not communicated, was that the chair man of the c tinmirtee (Mr. Alderman Lawrence) was out of town —a reason which conveyed an imputation of a grave nature on the deputy-chairman, Mr. Aspinall. He could assure the magist , rites that there was nor, and never had been, any wish on the p ,rt of the Watch Committee to act otherwise than cordially with them. The proceed ing of the magistrates, however, had assumed such an appearance as made one suppose that they were not desi rous of acting with the Comm ttee. This sett of aliena tion amongst the two bodies might be prejudicial to the peace of the town. Quarrels had already been springing up between the members of the force in consequence of the recent conduct of the magistrates; and matinees could be cited to show the unsatisfactory state of things, caused by the interference of that body. It was on these grounds that he hoped the magistrates in council, or some one or their hehalfostould offer some explanation for their proceedings, the causes which had led to those proceedings, and also 'he reasons why they had not been communi cated to the Watch Committee. (clean) Before he sat down, ht- wished to give the magistrates the following Wece of information :—The committee had vvrit'en to the D strict Master of the Orange Lodges, for information with regard to a procession in the town last month, which he believed was the foundation of the proceedings of the mazistrares ; and the answer was to the effect, that the precessioti on Easter Monday was not a procession of the Orange S,wiety,—that such processions were diametri cally opposed to the rules of that society,—that there was only one Orangeman in that procession, and that he had since been suspended for having taken part therM. (Hear, hear.) • The MAYOR said, that however much he might regret that any act of his, or any proceedings of the magistrates, should have filled to receive the approbation of the Watch Cortimittee, or any portion of the Council, it was never theless very satisfactory to him to know, that whatever had taken place was under the advice of the Town-Clerk: It was also satisfactory to him to believe that the magis trates were only prompted by a sincere desire to preserve the b eli e p v ea i n e g e , of a n t d he in t o d w e e n d : o a nd h f k no e had further wing.thatwhat satisfaction the yha o d f done had met with the approbation of the Home Secre tary, who had been informed of every thing as it occurred, and from whom a note had been received expressive of his approval. With respect to a want of courtesy on the part of the magistrates, he was sure that if the Watch Com mittee knew what transpired, they would not entertain any such feeling for a single moment. He might be al lowed to state how it originated. Mr, H. LAWRENCE 'bought that if it was to be dis cu.,,ed hereatter, it was better not to discuss it now. Mr. 1-1 ARBOR!) said it was absolutely necessary the sub ject should he gone into, for at the 'ery time the Mayor's communication was received by the Watch hoard that Orangemen were not to he aopointed, the Mayor recom mended one himself. (. laugh.) The MAYOR.—Not known, it, of course; I wasn't aware of it, I assure you. The whole of their proceed ings had their origin in Vie procession to which Mr. Thompson has alluded. He bad been waited on by Mr. Rushton, who made certain representations. The Town el,-rk was sent for ; and they advised together. He (the Mayor) suggested the propriety of communicating with the Watch Committee at the first meeting. (Hear, hear.) The object, however, they had in view was simply that the thing might be kept perfectly quiet—that no one should know it, not even the bench of Magistrates. However, the instructions given to Mr. Miller and Mr. Whitty came before the Watch Committee ; the thing got out; and then the Magistrates were called together, and the resolutions, already read. passed. Mr. ASPINALL said, that the Town-Clerk, when asked why he did not recommend the Mayor to send for the Watch Committee, said that be had pot been sent for until everything was arranged by the Mayor and Mr. RuQhton. The TowN.CLERK assured Mr. Aspinall that his an swer had been wholly misunderstood, for that he had never made any such statement. The MAYOR ' thought the Town-Clerk must have been misunderstood, for he had rung the bell for him the mo ment Mr. Rushton mentioned the nature of the business upon which he Lad come to the Town-hall. Mr. ASPINALL said there was no mistake; for that he had put the question to the Town-clerk twice on Satur day last, and that the answer was, that everything had been arranged by the Mayor and Mr. Rushton before the Mayor sent for his legal adviser. (Hear, hear.) The TOWN-CLERK again assured the council that he had been, in a most extraordinary manner, misunder stood. He had no hesitation at all in avowing that he had been called into the Mayor's room at an early stage ; that he found Mr. Rushton with the Mayor; and that the representation respecting the Orangemen had been pre viously 'made. Before he had taken any active part in the matter, he thought it necessary to consult with Mr. Shuttleworth, who concurred with him, that Orangemen, as well as Ribbonmen, were unfit persons to be members of the police force; and w hen he joined Mr. Rushton and the Mayor, he found them in possession of information that there was ground for believing that there were sixty Orangemen in the police force. His inference was, for he knew it not of his own knowledge, that Mr. Rushton had if ade that representation to the Mayor. He then referred at length to the part he had taken in the matter, arid said his wish was. that until the proceedings had arrived at a proper stage. there should be no repre sentation. made t. the Watch Committee, as the object was to effect the business as quietly as possible; but that, at a proper period, they should be in formed that the fact induced e him to p o e f r a gmraoru,nhdeifroigrahnidria.nitimani. ouriae council chose, to state the reasons which .s a if p t r h o e - Mr. Aserxwee.—You had better postpone that point be decidedly wofasoripuinitieonwt,hfiattos)ro the force. Orangeman, as well as a for the present. Mr. HARBORD.—The Town-Clerk came to that conclu sion before he ever saw the rules of the Orange Society. (Hear, hear.) The TowN-CeEnx.--I came to it from the general re- Rwi-basbpnrinpaaur 7da re presentations made of the society, and also from a full know'eage of what took placq regarding Orange Societies in parliament in 1835. Mr. TURNER.—Did the Town-Clerk advise the Mayor and Mr. Rushton to issue the order regarding Orangemen in the force, and to act upon that order before ever it went to the Watch Committee? The TOWN-CLERK, without immediately replying to the question, went on to say that, according to the mu nicipal corporations act, the Watch Committee had the appointment of the constables, and the power to frame regulations as they should deem expedient for the preven tion of neglect, and that the constables were required to obey the lawful commands of the justices. In cases of disturbance the constables were under the complete order and controul of the magistrates, without any right on the pa-t of the Watch Committee to interfere. Mr. TURNER.—You say the police are bound to obey the orders of the magistracy : are they not equally bound. to obey the orders of the Watch Committee ? The TOWN-CLERK. —Not in cases of disturbance. He thought that, as magistrates were often placed in situations of great peril, they required to have a force under them upon which they could rely ; and, believing it to be per fectly clear that the justices had the power to take into consideration what constables should be dismissed, he considered, in a case in which there was reason to believe there were sixty Orangemen in the force, that the charac ter of the Mayor required him to take up the subject with the stipendiary onagis'rste, and not hand over that juris diction to any other tribunal. He firmly believed that the power of dismissal was as complete in one jurisdiction as in the otber,—that the one beginning first could pursue the thing to a conclus , on, and that, considering the posi tion in which magistrates were often placed, they, of all others, had a right to see that the force was such as they could rely upon. It must be obvious to every man that if one of those riots. tahich disgraced the town on former occasions, were t o occur aga i n, i t would be a source of ob jection to the force if O rangemen were called to act against tt ß oh obpsbueor circumstances,st]meetnh , e a c n o d ur ß s i e b b ho already m c e e rnt detailed ey l s )d t a O dt o r a t n h g e e ngfro in m Council. n a dvis ed o e u n t n i c e i MUnderr w A h lr ic . h Ju m s a ti g c i e st L ra i t t e tl s ed w a .e le re a o n f a ie c t: c c o o u n c n l t u o d f e dt the ey situationre placed when called on to act in cases of riot and dis turbance. Ms. TURNER said no person doubted the power of the ma gistrates to dismiss, b ut that the resolution of the n Mayor and Mr. Rushton was cons i dered an i tetfe with the powers of the. Watch Committee. He spoke warmly of the zeal and attention man i fested by the e com mittee in makii , g their appointments CO the force,nd said it was of the utmost consequence that good will should exist between two such bodies as the magistracy and the Watch Committee, so intimately interested as both were in the main'enance of an active and efficient police. The TowN-CLERK said that if he thought the resolu tions an interference with the rights and privileges of the Watch Committee, he never could have advised such a mode of proceeding; but he retained the opinion up to the present moment, that there had not been any inter ference whatever. Mr. BLAcicsußs:defended the magistrates, and thought they were perfectly warranted in coming to the resolu tion in question. Mr. H. LAWRENCE was of opinion that the present discussion would not be productive of any good, and that a pitiful procession of thirty boys, with a cracked drum and a yellow colour, was not sufficient to throw the town into a ferment. Mr. BIRKETT characterised the proceedings of the ma gistrates as a " tempest in a teapot." Mr. HA RBORD said he h: d received the first intimat'on of the magisterial proceedings from a poor Orangeman who was aoing to be quietly dismissed, and who came quietly to his house at ten o clock at night, to t e ll bi n, that he and others were to be quietly dismissed, an d then he (Mr. H.) quietly nienfinred the fact to ,he Watch Committee, and they quietly took it up, and now it was being quietly br, ught before the Council. (He ar , b ear, and great laughter.) Mr. PARKER said that Mr. Thornhill could tell the Council that questions of religion and politics were never asked the candidates for situations in the f .rce by any of the members of the Watch Committee. If they were to have tests of the kind, let the Test Acts be revived. The committee never thought of putting such queries. If they got men with characters for sobriety and honesty, that was all they looked for and all that they considered necessary. At the same time lie did not agree with those members of the Council who had been casting blame on the magistracy. He thought the magistracy deserved the complimentary letter they had received from Sir .1 ones Graham; far what might not have been the result. if they had overlooked the circumstance, or if they had not made the wonderful discovery, that there was the large number of seven poor Orangemen in the police force! t" Hear," and a laugh.) He had been informed that morning that there was some treasonable correspondence found out by the stipendiary magistrate (renewed laughter) ; and, un der these ci-cum.tances, the bench ought to be laud'd, instead of censured, for their great exert's:os in making the discovery. Considerable stress had been laid on the word " Orangemen" by Mr. Blackburn, and only onc- in the course of his speech had that genii 'man mentioned the word " Ribbonmen". Now, he (Mr. P.) thought the question put to the Town-Clerk a very proper one namely, whether the Orange Society was a legal or an illegal society ; and he certainly expected a decisive an swer ; but the Town-Clerk said, " No, I am not in a po sition to answer such a question." (Hear, hear.) Then the Town-Clerk went into a long explanation, and mysti fied the matter with some deep law (a laugh); hut no straightforward answer had been given to the important question touching the legality or illegality of the society. When political feeling ran so high, and when Orangemen were considered as firebrands in the town, he certainly thought it necessary to make a passing allusion to another view of the subject. He contended that there were a great many Repeaters in the force, and men who contri buted to the O'Connell and Repeal funls; nay, they had magistrates who presided at certain meetings, and who were themselves Repeaters. Mr. EVANS. —Who are they? Mr. PARKER.—Look at their actions. Mr. Mont.:um. was of opinion that if those discus sions and interferences were to go on, the force, in a short time, would not he worth a single halfpenny. Mr. LACE said, the real question was, whether it was proper to have any man on the force who was a member of any society except a mere benefit club. He was of opinion it was the very worst thing; for they would find that, in all cases, the police force would he su'e to serve any other member of a secret society. He quite agreed with the opinion of the magistrates, and he would say that neither freemasons, oddfellnws, or any other secret society should they belong to. He would have no connexion with any secret society. It was entirely incompatible with the proper discharge of their duty. He thought the Mayor, under the advice of the Town-clerk—for he must bear all the Mayor's sins in this respect—had gone toe far in coming to the resolution. The Town-clerk had made some good observations, and if the matter bad involved a riot next day, it would have perbans been the right course ; bu , when three or four days did not signify, he thought all the magistrates should have been called, and then a com munication sent to the Watch Committee. The magis trates had clearly the power—there was no doubt of that. Mr. HORNBY denied that there were any Repeaters on the magisterial bench. After some further discussion, Mr. ASPIN Lt replied, and gave notice that he should move at the next meeting, that Mr. J. B Lloyd b- a member of the Watch Committee, in place of Mr. Bout flower, deceased. lie said, that if the courtesy due to the Watch Committee had been ,hown to them, it wou'd have been found that an inquiry had been instituted, and that the number of Orangemen, Ribbonmen, and Repeal ers in the force was so trifling as not to he worth the trouble of noticing. He was glad to hear from Mr. Tor ner that the stipendiary magistrate, and other individual magistrates, had denied that any discounters was m-ant ; but the proper course for them to pursue would have been to send a letter, to the deputy chairman of the Watch Committee, on the subject, as they had sent other letters. This would have done away with a great deal of ill fdi l ing, and placed one party as well as the other in a proper position. The proceedings of the committee were then confirmed. FINANCE COMMITTEE. The proceedings of the Finance Committee, which re_ commended a site fora Sailors' Home near the slate yards at Prince's Dock, were read and confirmed. Upon the motion of Mr. Lloyd, the recommendation to incre , is- the salaries of the District Surveyors. Mr. Rishton and Mr. Woods, was negatived by a majority of 20 to 19. THE DOCK BILL. The Liverpool Dock Bill, as it passed the Committee of the House of Commons, was then taken into conside ration ; and the following amendment, moved by Mr. Gladstone, was adopted by a majority of 20 to 16 :—" That in case of the refusal of any vessel to move, (for no other cause than the repairing or cleansing of the docks,) which shall be in the course of receiving or discharging cargo, the expense of such removal shall be borne by the trus tees, but that no vessel in such case shall claim more than 40s against the trustees." The bill was then approved, subject to this ameniment ; the Coroner's accounts were referred to the Fmanr;al Committee for payment ; and the Counc , l adjourned at twenty minutes after four o'clock, to Wednesday next. LOCAL NEWS. The British and North American royal mail steam ship Britannia, Captain Hewitt, sailed for Halifax and Boston on Saturday last. The foundation-stone of a new Roman Catholic chapel was laid the customary ceremonies on Wed , iesday, in Edmund-street. It is to be called St. Mary's." At the late Kirkdale Sessions, Edward Sidcbottlm, Esq., Aqueduct, Staleybridge, qualified as a magistrate for this county. Mr. Gilmour, whose name is well known in Liverpool, was to have been tried last week, at Edinburgh, on a charge of forgery ; but, at his own request, the trial has been postponed. CHRIST CHURCH SCHOOLS.—On Sunday, £212 7s. 84-d. were collected at Christ Church, Salford, for toe Sunday and Day Schools, after two sermons by the Rev. H. Stowell. FATAL ACCIDENT ON THE CANAL.—On Tuesday last, James Hughe4 was severely crushed by falling between a flat and thelwall of the eanal. A police-officer went for a surgeon immediately after the accident, but when he re turned, the deceased was dead. Verdict accordin 4 ly. SUDDEN DEATHS.—On Tuesday last, Henry Valent;ne, a young child, died in its mothers artns in Wavertree•lane. On the same day also, Daniel Andrews, a child six weeks old, died in bed by its mothers side. Verdict's in accor dance with the evidence in both cases. THE ST. HELEN'S RIOTS—At the Kirkdale Sessions, on Tuesday, Peter Dagnall, who assaulted and wounded Mr. Joseph Storey, in the market place on the day of the colliery riots, at St. Helen's was found guilty, and sen tenced to six months' imprisonment. Docx COMMITTEE.-At the meeting, the only public business transacted, beyond the mere routine proceedings, was the reading of a letter from the Liverpool and Man- chester Railway company, as to the putting down of a railway on the east side of the King's Dock, which was referred to the Harbour-master's Committee. CITY OF DUBLIN STEAM-PACKET COMPANY.—The half-yearly meeting of this company was held at the com pany's office on Wednesday last, and the usual dividend of 3 per cent. declared out of the profits of the half-year. The report appeared to give much satisfaction, and the change of the hours of departure of the admiralty packets was expected to be favourable to the company. THE NORTHERN CIRCUIT IN 1800 AND 1844.—Ac cording to the Law List for 1800, there were sixty-three barristers on the northern dr:nit, including five silk gownsreen, viz., Messrs. Law and Park, and Sergeants Coact', Clayton ' and Heywood. The Law Li s t for 1844 names two hundred and twenty-one barristers on the same circuit, including thirteen silk-gownsnien, viz., Messrs. Armstrong, Baines, Dundas, Knowles, Lewin, Martin, Roebuck, St a rk te , an d W ot tley, and Sergeants Atcherley, Murphy, Thompson, and Wrangham. DINNER TO CELEBRATE THE OPENING OF THE BIR KENHEAD WATER WORKS.—Yesterday evening week, the Birkenhead Gas and Water Company entertained the men in their employ ; along with their families, and seve ral officials and gentlemen of the township, with a sump tuous dinner, in the open air, on the grounds attached to the Gas Works. The dinner , which was of the most recherché description , was provided by Mr. Gleave, of the Adelphi Hotel , Woodside, and gave general satisTac tion. MR. A. ESKELL, SURGEON DENTIST.-It will be per ceived from an advertisement in another column, that this gentleman, one of the well-known firm of Messrs. Eskell and Sons, of Sheffield and Manchester, has taken up his permanent residence amongst us, and we doubt not his name being almost a sufficient guarraiitee for respecta bility and professional skill he will obtain an extensive practice. Those who require the beneficial and beauti fying aid of the Dentists' art, cannot do better than con sult those whose long experience entitles them to the patronage of the public, PANORAMA OF CHINA.—We have been exceedingly gratified by a visit to this exhibition at the Liver Theatre, and, in referring our readers to the advertisement in ano ther column, we have no hesitation in saying that all who visit it will feel the gratification that we have done. The scenes which compose the most popular parts of China, more particularly those connected with the late war, are splendidly painted, and, partaking of these rich and mel low tints for which the Eastern views are so remarkably adapted, have an exceedingly admirable and lively appear ance. The whole panorama occupies 4.000 feet of can vass, contains upwards of 5,060 figures (some of th em large and effective), and is, we learn, the work of a townsman, on whom it reflects the greatest credit. FRACTURING A POLICE-OFFICER'S ARM.—On Tues day last, George Jarrett, John Godfrey, and Thomas Jones, remanded from Thursday, were brought up on the charge of breaking the arm of police-officer Davies, No. 43. It appeared that on Wednesday the p r i soners, wit h n number sf prostitutes, were driving about Dal , -street, Tithebarn-street, and Oldhall-street, in a sh an d rv , at a terious rate, and that they were stopped by Inspe c t or Abram, Davies, and other officers, who det erm i ne d upon taking the whole party to Bridewell, in consequence of their disorderly conduct. Davies t oo k h o ld o f the reins , t the horse to lead it, when one of the prisoners lashed the animal so brutally that he plunged, at the same time knocking down the officer, and the w h ee l p vsse d over h i s arm. which was severely fractured. lie also received a contusion on the head, and the other officers hvd a very narrow escape. The prisoners were sent for trial. NRW PATENTA.—Amongs the parents recently no. tabled are the to t ow i ng : —M r. J totes KCIM,-.11,1, Of firm • f Me-srs Bury, C . rt:s, and Kennedy,of this town, engineer. and rh , unis V e r non , ako of this town. iron ship-builder, for et-rain improvements in the hutblin2 0 cons . roetiott of iron and other vessels, navieatinn nn wat r. Mr. George Morton. of Dale-ctreet, Liverpool, for a desi-zn of a flew construction for bodies of vehicles Sealed 4:h April. A FORGED Ouricrt.--On Saturday a fellow, named Vt'ilhain MiCartoev, was brought before Mr. Rushi.on or, a&m g , . o hay forged an order. in the name of Jane. M'Kenni, Auctioneer, Tith-hare-street, for 71 rirds of moleskin, 3 yards of cal " o. and z.ome thr,id tie took the order to Mr. Robert Morrav, draptr, of 7. Paredise street, from whom he received the ar , icles, the value of which was 10-. sd. ; hoe, in a few days after, it fur ed ont that M'Kenna. who had been in the habit occasionally of dealing with Murray, lad never signed the order, nor sent the prisoner on any such errand. lie was committed for trial. " SWING" IN . LIVERPOOL. — Mr. IVlaekrell and M r . James Ainsworth, j miers and builders, a r B oot l e, haw; received letters hearing the sign ure of this f orm id a bl e gentleman, announcing his intention to set fire to their premises unless they discharge some w "men in their employ, whom he calls " black sheen " They hav how. ever, shbAn o disposition to c imply with the request ; on the contrary, they hale offered a large reward tor in form lion which may end, perhap,, in the detection of the writer. Mr. Mackrell, on a former occasion. by his energy and resolution, broke up a very formidable conspiracy. HEARTLESS ROBBERY BY A DAUGHTER.—A poor old woman from Drogheda. appeared at the pi.l.ce-court, on Friday. to charge her daughter, ntry Ann Gamily, and a man named Peter Kelly, with having robbed her of £22 lOs., all the money she had in the world. She stated that this money was the accumulation of her savings for many years ; am! that on Wednesday last her dauo!ter took it aid afterwards decamped with the man Kelly to Lver pool. where she found them on Friday morning. A sum of £6 14s. was found upon them. Mr. Rushton said he had no power to deal with the prisoners ; but be ditected the commissioner of police to afford the old woman every assistance in conveying them to Ireland. BnaGLARY.—Some thieve.; obtained accm to the house of Mr. John M'Cutcheon, mariner, 96, Woolfe street, on Thursday night last;and stole some gray calco, lead piping, and other articles. They obtained access through the cellar hole. Police-officer Jackson (289) saw three thieves early on the Friday morning carrying some thing, and with the tt ,, siatance of Dodd (321) succeeded in apprehending Robert Qu'ck and Robert Levland. who had some of the articles stolen from Mr. M•Cu.cheon's house in. their posse.sion. Robert Webster, the third party, was not taken till Monday morning. On h;s road to bridewell be told Inspector Towerson that he supposed it would be a seven years' job for him. The three prison ers were committed to take their trial at the next assizes. RAPID TRANSIT AND Low CHARGE.—We observe, by the advt-r. isement of Mr. Braithwaite Poole. the agent for rite merchandise department of the Grand Junction Railway, that the maximum rate of charge for the carriage of goods heweeti this town and the metropolis is now re duced to 4s per cwt. When we eonsider that the time now occupied in ir tnsit it; only a few hours, we must view this low rate of charge as a great b.tott t i the public, and as a striking contrast to the rites charged of-w years ago, by canal, of Ba. and 10s. per cwt., when toe time occupied in tranvia:salon was be•wee3 a fortnight and three weeks. What a convincing proof is this of the mold progress and advantages of railway communication to tr and com merce ! No doubt it is found mutually beneficial to all parties. CUSTOMS FRAUDS IN LIVERPOOL.—TIIR QUEEN V. WILLIAMS AND BRoCKLEHURST.—In the Court of Queen's Bench. on Thursday, the de-'entlants in this Case, aho w-re Liverpool merchants, and had been convicted at the last Liverpool Assize.; of a conspiracy to defraud the revenue of certain customs' duties, by taking certain quantitiei of coffee out of bond without paying the duty, were brought up for judgment. The sentence of the Court was, that. Thomas Williams should be imprisoned in her Majesty's gaol at Kitkdale, Lancashire, for six calendar months, and that Brocklehurst should be im orisoned in the same gaol for tw , lire calendar months, and that in the mean time they should be committed to the custm'y of the keepers of the Queen's Prison. AWFULLY SUDDEN DEATH OF A LADY AT WALLA SEY.—An Inquest was held yesterday week, before H. Churton, Esq , Coroner, on the body of Mrs. Briggs. It appeared in evidence that the deceased lady was in health and spirits on Tuesday morning at hilt' past six o'clock, when her husband left her to go into his garden. On his return, in about an hour, he found her Iving on the floor in an insensible and dying state. Dr. Duple!) , ass immediately sent for and used every exertion, but in vain —the vital sp..rk had fled. On a post-mortem examinati on being instituted, it was discovered that a vessel in the brain had been rup . ured, thereby producing aooplexy. The Jury returned a verdict in accordance with tee evi dence. The deceased was a young lady only very recent ly married. ALLEGED ILL-USAGE BY THE POLICE.—Among the business at the police-court, on Friday, was a complaint by a person named Alexander Blyce, against constables N , l. 514, and No. 438. Bryce was stopped by the officers a few minutes before twelve o'clock on Thursday nigq, with a pick in his hand, in Chris'ian-street, and being in liquor was conveyed to the Rose-hill Bridewell. In going down the steps, he fell, as he alleged, from a shove given him by police-officer No. 514, whereby he was consider ably hurt upon the head and one of his legs. He was soon afterwards discharged from the bridewell, it being ascer tained that he had been sent to fetch the pick by his mas ter, Mr. Mills, of London-road, from Mr. Higson, a pub lican, Scotland-place. It appeared from the testimony of the bridewell-keeper, that Bryce fell without being at all touched by either of the officers, on which Mr. Rush ton said he was very sorry that Bryce hid sustained so much injury, but at the same time he was not prepared to impute any blame to the officers, for they had done their duty correctly. The complaint was therefore dis missed. SHIP LAUNCH.—On Saturday last Messrs. Joseph Steel and Son launched, from their building-yard, Baffin street, a splendid new vessel. of the following dimensions : namely, length from stem to stern, 120 feet ; breadth of beam 29 feet; depth of hold, 20 feet ; and 520 tons bur de,, as per register. She is built of the best English and African oak, copper-fastened, and is a first class twelve years' sh , p For symmetry of mod-1, excellence of work manship, adoption to carry, and sal ng qualifications she is not to be surpassed. Precisely at twelve o'clock the order " Down daggers," was given, when the ship glided into her destined element, amidst the joyous chef rs of an immense multtude of delighted spectators, without the slightest accident having occurred. She received the nom. of Charlotte, that being the name of the lady of J. Higginson, Esq., of the firm of Messrs. Barton, Irian), and Higginson. She is intended for the East India trade, and will be commanded by Mr. Corkhill. The Mersey, Birkenhead steamer, was in attendance with the owners and a party of friends, who, having seen the Charlotte safely into dock, proceeded to Runcorn, where they spent the day to the satisfaction of a:1 who were present on the interesting occasion. THE GOVERNOR OF THE WORKHOUSE REPROVED.— On Wednesday last, Richard Edwards, a pauper, was charged before Mr. Rushton, by officer Galloway, of the Workhouse, with refusing to work. The prisoner said he wished to , see the Workhouse Committee, and had an order signed by Mr. Gray, the overseer, for that purpose. He had shown the order to the governor of the Work house, who refuse I to permit him to see the committee, and he therefore refused to work until he had been broueht before the magistrates. It having been proved, by Mr. Gray and Mr. Heathcote, that the prisoner's statement was correct, the governor, who had been sent for, said he was aware the prisoner had an order, but he (the governor) had exercised a discretion in the matter, having heard the committee were averse to entertaining such applications. Mr. Rushton said he and the magistrates were most anxious to support the authority of the governor, but on this occasion they considered the governor had neglected his duty, in not allowing the prisoner to see the commit tee, he having an order from the overseer, and that he had no right to exercise any discretion on the subject. To the prisoner Mr. Rushton said—You are discharged ; let there be no mistake about that. THE NORTHERN CIRCUIT.—Mr. Justice Coltman and Mr. Baron Rolfe, on the return from their Northern Cir cuit, which commenced on the 17th of February, and did not terminate until the 13th ult., immediately informed the Secretary for the Home Department that it was im possible for any human exertions to do justice to her Majesty's subjects on such an extensive circuit : and that, although they had sat early and rose up late, they had been obliged to leave causes untried at Durham, at York, and at Liverpool. To remedy this great evil, we understand that the government propose to have recourse to the in judicious expedient of adding the county of York to the Midland Circuit—a measure manifestly unjust. The bar of the Northern Circuit have a claim in the , nature of a vested interest in the district through which their labours have extended, and the fairest way to them, and the most satisfactory to the public, would be (as the barristers, silk and stuff, are sufficiently numerous) to make a division of the present circuit between them into two circuits. There would then be an average of 150 causes on each cir cuit, which to the bars thus formed on the new circuits would bring a profit nearly equal in amount to that which each barrister in business now receives; and in general each of the circuits would have a greater number of causes than falls to the lot of any other circuit. SELECr VESTRY PROCEEDINGS. --On Friday the usual fortnightly meeting of the Select Vestry was held at the Parish-offices, Fenwick-street, the Rev. Rector Campbell in the chair. All the members were present, with the ex ception of the Rev. Rector Brooks, Mr. Deakin Mr. W. Henderson, and Mr. Ferguson. The minutes and . pro ceedings of the last meeting, and of all the committees were read and confirmed. From the Workhouse report, itir appears that there were for the week ending 20th April, 1731 paupers in the house. These at the expense of 2s. id. per head, cost £176 14s. Id. At the same time last l year there were 1837 paupers in the rouse ; and they at an expense of Is. 6d. per head higher, and the weekly outlay .£3; more than last year. There were 3515 cases of out door poor for the week ending 27th April, at the cost of I ti s m . e 2d la . st myera.rnth.enre. were 34 £3 6 9o c a I s 3, sa whichBd A costhet m x s 3 a B6. e i Rad cliffe son of the Town-clerk. was elected by a majority of fifteen to seven to the situation of House-surgeon to the Workhouse, in the room of Mr. Nightingall, resigned, at salary of £l5O per anum, with apartments in the house. There were six candidates for the situation. A retiring pension of £5O per anum was voted to Mr. Nightingall, subjected to the sanction of the Poor-law Commissioners„ for his arduous services since 1823 . Mr. John Blackburn, of Castle-street, was unanimou*ly elected a member of the Select Vestry, in the room of Mr. Green, appointed Over seer and Mr. John Briscoe of Oldhall-street, was also elected a member of the Select Vestry, in the room of Mr. Henderson, appointed Overseer. MR. M ADDOCK, OF Unt.tsri , :n..-1 - le , Majesty has been ')l<•asetl to confer the dignity of Knighthood of the United Kited tt., on Mr Maddock, of the I.srigal Civil Service, •ldest son of the late Rev. Thomas Maddock, a highly e:ne•rfrd Pr bet,dary of our Cathrdral, and . tlt-cto - r of 'he Holy Trinity in this city. Her Nlaj, - esty has conferred this honourable distinction en Mr. Niad.inek in conside ration of hi , hoe and faitYtil servic-s as a civilian in her Indian Empire.; and more partieularly on account of his well-conducted fulfilment of a diaornaCc mission to China, entrusted to his charge by the Indian Government dining the late war. We are highly grot tied to see a native of our ancient city thus noticed, and hone the dis tinction may lead to further honours, which, from all we ran learn, are so richly de , erved ry the present Sir Thos. Herbert Maddock. Sir Thomas went out to India in 1814, and has since held several offieial appointments, of great trust and confidence, to the satisfaction of the au thorities. He was Secretary to the Government, and accompanied the Governor-General, Lord Ellenhorough, throughout the arduona and successful campaign of Aff ghanistan, and now halals a seat in the Supreme Council of India.—Chester Courant. [The presPnt Sir Thomas Herbert Maddock is grandson to the late Rev. Thomas klad.iock, rector of Liverpool so far hack as the year 1782, and brother to our townsman, Mr. Edward D. Maddock, of Everton village.] INQUESTS.—On Saturday five inquests were held be fore the Borough Coroner. The first was on the body of a man unknown, which had been found floating about four miles to the westward of the Northwest Lightship, was picked up by. the hands belonging to the ,fe Sarah, and brought to the Stac ,, mbe-slip. It appeared to have been some time in the water. The only article found in she pockets was a knife. The deceased, who was about five feet nine inches in lie , ght, had shoes and stockings on, blue cloth trousers, blue and white -triped shirt, blue cloth wai-tcoat, an oil-cloth jacket, and a red comforter. —Toe second inquest was al-o on the body of a man un kn wn, which was found floating in the Mersey, was picked up by a fisherman,. and conveyed to land. There was a large cut on the crown of the head, which appeared to have been caused by a fail or a blow, and there were also several coniusions about the upper part of the body. A comb, a knite, a piece of metal, and a stiffener far a neckerchief. were found. The decea-ed, who had dark sandy whiskers, and was about forty-five years of age, had on a par of eassimere trousers and jacket, two white shirts. and gray stockings.—The third was on the body of a male child, who was born with a canl, and was suf focated in about twenty minutes after the birth by the caul having extended over the mouth and prevented res. -piration.—The . fmrth was on the body of a child, two years of age, named Henry Charles Workman, who. whilst playing in the yard attached to the Church of England Schools, in Cornwallis-street, fell backwards„ and struck his head with such violence against the pave ment that it caused a severe contusion on the skull, and produced death.—The fifth and last was on the body of Robert Griffiths, a child six weeks old, who, whil,t in bed with his parents was suffocated by hi s f a th er , who was intoxica.ed at the time, basing placed his left arm across its mouth. Verdicts in accordance with the evi dence were returned in the several cases. VESTRY MEETING AT RUNCORN.—A meeting of the rat'-pavers was h e ld on Th urs d ay last, in pursuance of a requisition addressed to the churchwardens and overseers to call a me.eting to consid er t h e po li cy of allowing the as : sistant overseer : n I collec , or of the rates to hold the office of constable of the iltrish, or any other office, with out the express consent of the rate-payers ; and the expe diency of resorting to measures to effect a separation of the offices held by him. Mr. John Crippin, churchwar. den, took the chair. Mr. P. Pitman said that no one in tdividual could now per e n the duties of the offices held by Mr. Harding, and their union was contrary to law and usage. The population, which eighteen years ago did not exceed 3,000. had now increased t.i 8,000. The situations held by Mr. Harding should he divided ii.to three, and the office of assistant-overseer kept separate from all others. —Mr. Whitt...my sail the meeting should consid er how best to separate the offices, so as to promote the interests of the town.—Mr. Johnson said if Mr. Harding was ever so active he could tot discharge the various duties with satisfaction to himself. He moved a resolution to the •-ffect th tt the offices could not be dischar;ted satisfactorily by the overseer; that the duties of overseer and also of constable were incompatible, and that the appointment of Mr. Hardin; as assistant overseer and colt, ctor be revoked and made vi,id. This was seconded by Mr. P. Ward.— Mr. Pitman recommended that the town should he placed under the County Constabulary Act.—Mr. Whiteway warn'-d the town against such a step. He said consiahle Mr. Harding had done his duty : there were few towns of the size in which so few depredations had been committed. In the division of the offices alluded to there would be an increased expense of . - .£loo.—Mr. Johnson was in favour of the County Constabulary Force, notwithstanding the additional cost.—After some discussion an amendment was carried, to the effect that it was impossible for Mr. Harding to discharge the duties of all the offices he held; that those of assistant-overseer and constable were incon sistent with each other, and that a committee (named) be aupointed to consider the best means to separate the offices held by him, and to report the same at a future meeting. Several otaer names were added to the com mittee, and the motion was unanimously carried.—The meeting then separated. OMNIBUS TO HALE.—On Wednesday last, being May day, the new omnibus. recently procured be a number of spirited gentlemen in Hale, started fa- the fist tone with passengers, from the Angel Coach-office, Dale-street, for the delightul village of Hale; and notwithstanding the great race at Chest a . on the same day, which drew thou sands of our town-people to the " aecietit citie," by rail way, road, and water, it was crowded to repletion both inside and out. The machine itself was constructed by a celebrated budder in Derby, and is at once elegant, easy, and commodious. It was decorated with flowers and evergreens round the roof, forming the words " Hale," &c. in perforated lattice-work, surmounted on each side by the crest of the Blackhurne family, of Hale Hall. in gilded metal—namely, "the Cock and T.-mnpet." The horses, (four fine animals,) in new and handsome harness, were al,o adorned with ribbons, b autiful real flowers, &c. ; ant the whole was certainly the handsomest turn out of the day, albeit the other omnibuses were more or less ornamented. A large crowd witnessed the departure of the machine from Dale-street, and it attracted much attention as it passed through the several great thorough fares southward. The coachman, a smart and steady young man, is not only a ca ital whip, but plays the key bugle with great ease and execution—h lding the reins in one hand aid the in-trumetit in the other. The day was delightfully tine, and at Park, Aigburth, and every hamlet and lane ends ou the way crowds were stationed, and h artily cheered the new " bus." At Garston the assemittage was greater than we had cooceived the entire population to amount to, especially us the males were nearly all at work. The drive throughout was both rapid and delightful, and Hale, beautful in the young verdure of spring, turned out her whole populatio n to welcome the first arrival with passengers of. the -handsome machine, which promises to form an agreeable connecting link, both for business and pleasure, between the two localities, as well as with Speke and other intermediate places on the route. We hope and trust that those who delight in peaceful and rural scenery, arid the beauties of a fine an cient village,—yet unmarred by the smoke of a single fac tory chimney,—will avall th , teselves of an early excursion by this conveyance, which they will find no cause to re pent, while, at the same time, thee will encourage and promote the establishment of a conveyance undert tken for the convenience of the public, rather than with a view to pecuniary gain. The drive back was accomplished in about an hour and a half. The distance (by Aigburth) is, we believe, a lade over eleven miles. THE `COTCH CHURCH, OLDHAM-STREET.—On Tues day last, a mertit , of the members of the consrmation took place in the church, called by the Rev. J. R. We lsh. Alter prayers the Rev. Gentleman read an address which he bad received, signed by upwards of 500 of his hearers, to the effect that in consequence of the late proceedings of the established Presbytery of Greenock, they availed of that opportunity to express their respect and attach ment to that reverend gentleman ; and gratefully acknow ledging the usefulness and acceptability of his ministry, thereby declared their determination to adhere to him as their minister; and to do all in their power to secure a continuance of the valuable services he teat so auspicioui ly commenced amongst them. Mr. Welsh expressed his gratitude, and alluded to the nature and aolemnity of the pastoral tie—explaining the circumstances in which he had come to Liverpool, he having been ordained by the Presbytery of Lancaster, to whom he became bound to render obedience. His whole conduct had proved that he was desirous to preserve peace with all men. and faithful ly to discharge his duties ; but he had nevertheless been, interfeered with i n a w a y th at cou ld not but retard his usefulness. Besides anonymous letters he had received communications from Messrs. Lonndes, Robinson, and Bateson, solicitors of this town, which he read. One of these stated that as he had resumed duty as minister. altho' he had ceased to be a licentiate of the Church of Scotland, they (Messrs. L. and Co.) were instructed to proceed against him by information and bills in the High Court of Chancery. In connexion with these documents. he begged also to read an extract of a letter from a friend in Glasgow, to,the effect, that the free congregation of St. Mathew's had unanimously elected him their pastor, and were now expecting his reply that they might proceed with the call. Nothing be added would be further from his mind than a desire to leave his present congregation ; but there were circumstances which might justify a change, and even render it unavoidable. The present offer had come to him unsolicited—it was a call in Providence he could not disregard, and, in his present position, harrassed and annoyed in every way, and having his usefulness m o s t seriously interfered with. he could not but think it his duty to leave his congregation, however much he felt at tached to them. He must. iheretore tell them distinctly that he could not remain, in his present position, among them ; although it was right for him to add, that his views of duty would be materially affected if they could do any thinghpam nor eo dwnnethovs eute he had o a ehwr l d t ea alter ra lefta t donebl t ehe t des allspcinoa a s sgt ne i da i a o nt n n iv idt . h re.ri H aving Kirkeai belongedv re i nd hands.tg. ob ma d ebe in g ns:e re called sphereowltheseneged Wel s h se: ohgs duty,aft a ththi t state ments chair, a resolution was proposed to the effect that having beard Mr. Welsh's determination not to meet a suit in chancery, and sympathizing with him in his con scientious scruples, they resolved 'with reference to the le gality or illegality of the claims set up by those opposed to him. but solely from their desire to retain him its their pastor, to commence a subscription, for the purpose of building a new p!ace of worship for him in Liverpool The motion also went to the appointment of a committee to superintend the subscriptions ; and to provide a Wale(); rary place of worship, and to follow out to a successful termination the object they had in view. ,The mo lop w as carried unanimously, a n d a comm ittee was appoint ed . Subscription papers were then brought forward , and, nl, in the course of about half a n hour, the sum of £9OO was S w a i h th sz t r i p e ed sy t i o lo w d a o rd f s th e e ree p t r in a g b a y t e e t r l i v a rh u c e . to h ti urc e h in in ctn E i t ict n ligelaiiiod. rrass- rinci ill - w