The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1843-12-12 00:00:00

daily ob boldly IVES An articl at po After d hick lr , ea pro 30.000 eve' y commi districts. L. rey to P, THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD TO CORR SPONDENTS OASTLER.—We are compel- utterer. been a man less deeply dyed in falsehood and . treachery than Daniel O'Connell : WHISTON. and his body to tl sry for this time. It will er ler to renewed e lied also to withdraw extensive scale tanbarb. IAING, DEC. 12, 1843 to whic Of the hundreds of va- I a the publ s hitherto , ctual carrying out of sured that they are wis an emer ace of cecses to be so—as it would do, should it ever de scend to pay open tribute to Popery—that constitu tion may indeed be said to exist, for awhile—a power less wreck upon the waters,—hut its fate is doomed, at least until vitality be restored, by the same profli gate expenditure of blood, which reared and ce mented its battlements, to be the barrier of the liberties of the world against the encroachments of the dark apostacy of Rome. or you may Such opinions such steady Protestantism of feeling —may be sneered at by modern liberalism Their indulgence and permanence may be destruc tive of the hope of " Catholic unity," in the eyes of Tractarianism. They may bring down upon us the enlightened contempt of " Young England." But they are the opinions and feelings, nevertheless, of three-fourths of the thinking and Protestant people of OLD ENGLAND, who have not yet learned the wisdom of purchasing, at the sacrifice of those prin ciples for which their fathers fought and died, on the field and at the stake, the poor privilege of cry ing " peace—when there is no peace" ! On principle, then, we object to the endowment of Popery, in this land or in Ireland—in any portion, indeed, of her Majesty's dominions. But expediency, we are told is to guide us upon this question. We The report of the committee of the Council, ap pointed to investigate the charge against Mr. Sands, has thrown just about as much light upon the case, submitted to its judgement, as we anticipated, at the time of its appointment. It has declared that Mr. Sands has acted "erroneously;" but that no moral guilt attaches to himself, or to the firm to which he belongs. We knew this before. We knew that dishonesty was far from the character of the present Mayor of Liverpool ; and we knew that he had acted " erroneously" in ' 1- 1 are to pay a species of " black mail" to Rome, to purchase the cessation of the hostile attempts, now making against the constitution and the entireness of the empire, by the priesthood of Ireland. Who are to be the guarantees of this compact being kept, were it entered into ? What can assure us that the priesthood would cease to employ their spiritual and temporal influent.. .•.. of our Protestant institutions ? Does experience of the fruits of past concessions warrant such expecta ? No. Has this very payment of the Romish priesthood, in our colonies, diminished one jot their insolent attempts at dm' —their restless Lne description of the whole of his packages as trusses and boxes. Where there is an indefinite limit between two descriptions of packages, which even a receiver of town-dues cannot point out, a shipper of such packages must err, on one side or the other, in his interpretation of the term by which each is known ; and the extent of his error will be precisely regulated by the interpretation which his judges chuse to place upon those indefi nite and apparently indefinable terms. Mr. Sands, in his capacity as a forwarding agent, has, perhaps, by entering all his packages as boxes and trusses, damaged the town's revenue; by the opposite course he would have damaged the owners of the merchan dise which he forwarded. No one, unfortunately, could inform him where to strike into that middle course, in which we are told is safety. There is one feature in the case, however, which, we think, had the committee bestowed somewhat more attention upon it, ought to have exonerated Mr. Sands from the charge of having acted even NATIONAL SOCIETY.—A circular has been issued by the bishops to the clergy in their respective churches, in closing a copy of the Queen's letter, requiring in each church or chapel a sermon in behalf of this admirable society, from the operations of which the children of the Door derive .Dph linenonl7.l-.1. s all praise for and ferocious agitation there ? ,„. zu,L, uuspeaKauie aavantages. T he sermons are to be preached on such Sunday before the Ist day of June next, as the clergy may judge most favourable to the ----- Again —No ! In our colonies such a measure has been a failure; and such it must be in Ireland, so long as popery in that land ackowledges a foreign power, and refuses to lay down, in submission, its longings for supremacy throughout the world. And this we know--history and all experience purpose - LIVERPOOL SCOTCH THISTLE CURLING SOCIETY.— Last Friday evening a meeting of the friends of this win ter exhilarating sport, met at the house of Mr. Halliday, Everton, for the purpose of arranging the requisite preli minaries for the ensuing season. Mr. M`Naught was re elected president for the ensuing year ;. Mr. Geddes, vice. The original skips were all re-elected, with the additional strength of three batchelors. The party separated early, trusting, ere long, to try their slippery game in "combat fierce," without the aid of blows. ST. JOHN'S CHURCH.—By the decease of the late Mr. Moss, vicar of W a lt on , th e l ectureship attached to St. Johns' Church in this town becomes extinct ; and by the provision of the act on which the church was sold, the RPI7 V-11- • . Irish manners wf!l t world. In ei tell us—can never be In what- ever land popery exists, in anything less than su urch in that land is but a broken s of willing'ot nst them. H( link in the chain, with which it is sought to fette7 the liberties of mankind; and the closing of that link is, and must be, an object of ceaseless contem- plation imam tattoo'', who is now sole minister, has the power of appointing his own curate, for whose stipend £3OO per annum is secured by act of parliament. The demise of the lecturer gives no increase of stipend to the present incumbent. The want of light is at present felt in this church, but we have reason to hope that the gas will soon be supplied, and that dense district be thereby benefitted by a weekly evening service. THE FUNDS, SATURDAY NIGHT.—The business trans acted in the funds to-day has not been extensive, but quo tations, nevertheless, maintain mu c h fi rmness. B an k Stock left off 181 to 182; Exchequer Bills, 375. to 595. premium ; Consols for Account, 94; Three per Cent Reduced, 95i to 96; and Three-and-a-Half per Cent Re duced, 102 k to +. In the foreign market the transactions present no important feature. Considering the limited amount of operations, the tone of firmness has been very well supported. Spanish Actives left off 201 to a ; the Three per Cents, 3011 to ; Mexican, 314 to ; the De ferred 94 to s ; Portuguese, 431 to 44 ; Colombian, Ilk to ; Danish, 851 to 861 ; Chilian, 99 to 101 ; Bra 731 to 74i ; Belgian, 103 to 101; and Peruvian, 22 .. ), 23. _ ssing ourselves otl itences which foil Approach the question nearer. View it practi cally. You propose to bind down to obedience to the laws the Romish priesthood in Ireland by the division amongst them of, say, five hundred thou sand pounds per annum. Your object is a good one—the peace of Ireland—and is, perhaps, worth the price to be paid for its realization. But how do you work out that object ? The mere pecuniary gift, unattended by stringent provisions, to regulate the amount of benefit to be received in return, will ef fect nothing. Attended by such provisions —by conditions of good behaviour—the Romish church will reject your offers, however large, or accept them only to betray their conditions. The state, although it may pay, can have no permanent control over a church which refuses its right to appoint, or to re gulate, the conduct of its clergy. The utmost power, therefore, over the priesthood of Ireland to be ob tained by the concession you propose —more than that which is within the reach of direct legislation to obtain—would be the power of withholding the stipends from those who are found engaged in agi tation, or directing the authority of the spiritual office to purposes of hostility to the constitution. Is so slender a tie, we ask, worth purchasing at a sacrifice of money and of principle so large ? Another proposed plan is the purchase of glebes, to be attached to the Roman Catholic chapels in country districts, by which it is contended that the priesthood, as a body, will be raised to a more respectable and independent position amongst their flocks ; and having thus a stake in the prosperity of the land, may be induced to consult the per manent interests of their country, its agriculture and commerce, instead of being driven to throw now nothing " erroneously." Mr. Sands had, so far back as in 1834, distinctly and directly raised the question, as to the interpretation to be put upon the words " cases," &c., by disregarding, and intimating his disregard of, the intimation, conveyed to him by the receiver, that he was offending, in the course which he pursued. By so doing, Mr. Sands virtually ap pealed to the only tribunal which could, or which can now, settle the question,—viz., a court of law. If Mr. Sands is wrong now, he was wrong then, and ought to have been set right. It may be true, or it may not—and it is matter of opinion after all—that, as was urged by Mr. North, " every man carried about in his own breast a perfect knowledge of the definitions" —truss, bale, &c. But even that is scarcely sufficient. Mr. Sands, probably, or rather his clerks, would have found no difficulty in saying of any package in their hands—" this is a truss ; this is a bale, and this is a box." But Mr. Sands had a right to say—" tell me what the law defines these to be ; do not leave me to pit my judgement —my honesty—against the judgment and the honesty of other merchants. Let us know what we are doing, and place us upon an equal footing !" And such, in effect, he did say ; and that appeal, made eight years ago, should, in justice to him, to the commerce of the port, and to the burgess estate of Liverpool, have been heard and replied to. [ measures offer no pro: ;orernment which mak( of coercion must b€ mockery of a court an et up the THE LONDON TIMES ON THE STATE OF IRELAND.— The following graphic description of the state of Ireland appeared in an article in the London Times of Friday last. Our readers will perhaps think the expectation rather a Quixotic one, that a catalogue of evils so awful can be wiped out, either by the tampering truckl ng measures of whig - radicalism, or by the payment by the state of the priesthood of Ireland, as re commended by the Times, and some small journal ists who pipe in echo of the " Thunderer" of Printing House-square :—" The main and chronic evils of Ireland are defective laws, defective sustenance, hostile classes— which latter may be resolved into enmity of races—and hostile religicins, all deeply interwoven with each other, and all aggravated by ignorance inveterate and endemic. Organised or institutional power has for centuries been in the hands of a conquering race, which has until lately used it to the detriment of a defeated people, having still the preponderance of elementary or physical power. The laws of the 17th and last part of the 18th century were made for the enjoyment of the armed few, and for the en durance of the multitude disarmed—a state of things which could not have been lasting. This opposition, therefore, between the nature of the laws and that of the community, has been one cause that retarded the growth of civilization, being in fact a state of legalized oppres sion, which fretted and ulcerated the mind of the whole natio a—of one part through the thirst of change, of the other through jealous dislike of the purposes for which change was demanded. The uncivilized habits of the Irish have made them callous to so much of their poverty as does not press upon them in the shape of actual hunger, and have therefore tended to perpetuate that poverty through successive generations, Dirt and.squa lidness in all their abominable influences—rags even to nakedness—daily irregularity, disorder, and confusion in the household—boundless ignorance, yet unbridled curi osity—fawning endurance of insult at the time, but a spirit of foul and insatiable vengeance afterwards—ran cour and attachment, each carried to excess towards their respective objects—insolence alternating with adulation— cowardice wreaking its cruelty in murders of the helpless, exhibited by one and the same person, with daring courage in the field of battle, against the brave—incessant loqua city, with profound secrecy—treacherous baseness held in no dishonour towards a foe, nor barbarity towards a victim, nor contempt for truth at any time or place the closest intercourse of life wit', a passion for lawsuits, with abhorret dulous they are of lies, yet prone to lyin features of the medley to be found concealed, ii:neelrwelaitihid—plaiymsizt agony sof nio the f 1 me ecutive machinE out of it is to kee ,oner these fancies ar 3 them, on the sea and o 3 between'Loudon and Dul Is regular as between Lond it just as reasonably in the f Scotland s a lOrd-lieutE LOYAL ORANGE INSTITUTION.--On Wednesday last, a meeting of the Grand Committee of the Loyal Orange association was held at Newton, at which deputations attended from Liverpool, Wigan, Ashton, &c. Several resolutions, having for their object the good government of the body, were passed, and much valuable and cheering information communicated upon the subject of the steady advancement of the order and of the principles which it is formed to carry out. After the meeting, the members of the various lodges present sat down to a sumptous dinner, at the Horse and Jockey, at which the usual loyal toasts were given, and the harmony kept up until the hour of their departure by the Railway train. It may not be generally known that the Grand Protestant Confeder ation has recently been united to the Orange body, thus enablng it to assume its legitimate position, as the most powerful body, organised for the support of protestantism, in Great Britain. nust take steps at once to pro stop the mouths of bad men to assail both. You must Act throughout the three them, at least for a while, ld Protestant, and indus s she is. The fact that less that 3000 troops, )r her protecti man Catholic provinces absorb little less proves that you have no danger to appre tt quarter ; and you would shew small dis- i iaPr zement to loyalty same time take powers which you assume ately as the circumstances no gratuitous insult be of on account of his religion ; " A NIGHT WITH PUNCH": MR. W. J. HAMMOND'S ENTERTAINMENT AT THE PORTICO.—A most amusing entertainment has been got up by Mr. W. J. Hammond, entitled " A Night with Punch." He has been extremely successful in London with it, and last night gave his old friends and admirers in Liverpool an opportunity of judging whether the metropolitan papers have been telling truth in their very favourable notices of him. As far as of not thisdone a mhui amusing njustice; essay. er have e i s notwe can spo jkuedng welle , h t many a one whose " n i g ht s w ith punc h," of Radley's or Lynn's fabrication, have h a d cause 't o regret their com panionship; but the o n ly h ea d ac h e t h at can arise from ey enough have Hammond's " Punch" will be from the excessive laughter that is produced by a dose of it. Following in the plan of Mathews, Yates, Russell, Reeve, and Miss Kelly, Mr. Hammond continues to keep his audience in good humour from first to last, regaling thpm tnta- al position exposes them to the deprived of the means of exer th this view, suspend or revoke peace throughout the disturbed • tribunals there be courts-mar juries the officers of the army, t the outset that you art a at all hazard We have little hope that the reference of the ques tion, now, to the Finance Committee can lead to its satisfactory settlement. The Finance Committee may lay down its reading of the matter; the law may lay down another. And again we repeat—and we regret that the emergency has arisen—by the law only can it be decided. Shew r r their rank may 1 Ives into the whirl of agitation for the main of their influence, and, indeed, for their subsistence We grant that a belie& might result from such a f it could I be carried ou I - I nearest neighbours— :s, and merry matters, eo - r a 's oOdt ' - - " xittinunonit a rap c) anything we have seen. ;owe C egree of consterna- transformations were His Sam Boxer—Mrs. ,or ra e of the people of Great Britain, we say delivered at a recent dinn?r given to that somewhat Every body must go acute and painful. 1 LA OV.S. .08. who I(4elaugiling and ..um are unfit, though for opposite reasons, to be lat once that it will not be submitted to. If made eccentric politician, Mr. W. S. O'Brien, had its crusted with the liberty which is the birthright of a Briton. Fill the provin ces th us t reate d w i t h troops. If 30,000 a charge upo n th e property of P rotestant l andowners The past week has been an important one to the in .° the slanders teen are not sufficient, send 60,000 ; and punish every in Ireland, we say it is dishonest, and cannot con habitants of Prescot and the adjoining township of Whis , contained in the last hamlet and village where the smallest outrage occurs by. , sistently be advocated by men who declaim against "It had been suggested to him, that if he consented to ton. The subject of controversy was the boundary of the Mercury. In the mean quar'ering a strong detachment of horse and foot on its e his agitation for the repeal, the prosecutions would contemporary for this ebulli- inhabitants. Five years ago the Sclavonian districts of the charge upon such property, belonging to Pro- c i e e as given up, or, if the trial went on, and a verdict was two townships. It appears that Whiston has on several e ernst an ill-used man. Liberalism Hungary were in a much more troubled state than Mun- testants, for the support of a Protestant church. had, that the Crown would not press for punishment— oofccpasfieonsotla.isd.claim to piece of land . which the township in possessi on. The disputed lands are the wing liberation of Mr. Oastler—fears ster and Connaught a-e now. The Austrian government, ' ' that offer had been made to him.' nest appeals to the Operative Class Putting out of view, too, all the difficulties of detail demesne lands of the lord of the manor, and Prescot b d ting the process which . we now describe, brought As it is, what are we think of such an assertion ? hall, and the matter has been left to the decision of the betray and trample upon • and in Y. ao p things round in three months. We see no reason why which suggest themselves, where is the assurance rids an organ, willing to do If it is one of the numerous inventions of this " bold commissioner,Ti tbe Cotn i s Commissioners er a s tallied Town-hall, w r . 11 Mathew,-1 Prescot, the assistant the English government should not accomplish its object that the gift itself will not be turned against the hearing en the object of its Ear a sufficient to keen him in as short a space of time, and with even less sacrifice er liberty." permanence of B r i t i s h connect i on, and the British bad man," th e P ro t es t ant peop l e o f E ng l an d are counsel on both sides for four days. The question arose p the question of whi c h t owns hi p was b oun d to relieve a constitution in Ireland ? Th e very en d owments surely entitled to the proof of it s f a l se h oo d. If i t i s on aupe r. Having thus pro v id e d f or t h e peace o f t h e coon truth, then, what are we to thi n k o f a government Mr. BRANDT opened the case on W e d nes d ay, on which we furnish are —l et i t b e b orne i n mind—to :y, the write r wou ld t h en i ntro d uce measures for the which could commit the folly of entrusting its repu- the part of Whiston, by stating, that . the principal in be melded by an alien power—by Rome herself,— quirt' was whether these lands were in Present or Wins r amelioration of the social condition of the people— ' tation to the keeping of such a man, and, above all, ton. He stated, that so far back as the reign of Henry of that persecuting who will never tolerate, on the part of her spiritual 'ours of his prison the formation of railroads, of harbours, &c., the en- . could harbour the thought of degradation so utter— theirth e boundary,htl , the w as i n existence. wh i c i f i r e p they ut i n a contended wasdocument subjects, any course which has not for its objects, couragement of fisheries, and of emigration upon an above all other objects, the spread of her own do- of TREASON so base—as would be the compro- of the 14th Henry VIII., which had been found in the . Upon the propriety of many of . . . mising with arraigned traitors against the constitu- possession of the Whiston authorities, and which he con minion in the British empire. tended pointed to what they consider their boundary. se recommendations doubts may readily be en- . tion of Great Britain ? He also produced three land tax papers of the date of 'l'he tie which binds the priesthood of Ireland to tertained. The consideration of these, however, is . 1692, where these lands were assessed to Whiston ; he their flocks—the tie of dependence—and which said that the constable of a township was always cee,ned no business of ours here. The main features of ' ' Since the above was written, the Morning Herald, ~. whilst it reduces them to the position of beggars, . . to the district for which he was appointed ; that the too which is generally received as the organ of govern- stables of Whiston had acted on that estate, and that the the policy recommended have our full approval ; confers upon them a spiritual power, which would county coroner had taken inquests there. He also pro ' and we are confident must have that of every man ment, has declared, emphatically, that " there is not doted two or three cases and opinions in which the Pres s belong to them as members of an endowed who dare look our difficulty with regard to Ireland the slightest shadow of a foundation for the state- cot authorities, he contended, had stated that the lands in church, is not one whose value is under esti dispute were in Whiston. The above were all the docu s month's number of fearlessly in the face. The subsequent measures of ment made by O'Connell;" and further assures its we beg to request the mated by tile astute politicians of the Vatican, mentary evidence which was put in on the part of Whis amelioration can he discussed hereafter. readers— ton, with the exception of two maps of recent date. or by the hierarchy in Ireland. However we may _ " That statement is utterly f a l s e—f a l se i n every part i cu- T hey relied much upon the tithes of Prescot Hall estate Ireland, which are A proposition has recently been mooted, in in- endow the priesthood, we have n o secur it y th a t t h ey lar. We KNOW it to be false, and we publicly pr mlaim it having been collected with the tithes of Whiston, although 2, we have met with fluential quarters, and will no doubt be brought at will abate one jot their exactions from the 1111- p to re b s e u mfalse, was,if i t that t meantany suggestion to con vey anoff g any impression, as sor t w o • ef cothe a i l n o waelcli rates.th at it h l a n d sbeenu ortim immemorially m i l: I :l i r i a lly 3 Pres tosiit of the subject are so an early period before the notice of Parliament, poveriehed people of Ireland, or consent to relax, in compromise, or, (to preclude the possibility omiscon- called several witnesses, a p nd closed his e c a a s s e e on Thursday ' ception) that any kind of suggestion has been made to night. prescribed for; and, be- upon which we feel bound to express our views the most trifling degree, the spiritual tyranny in Mr. O'Connell in reference to the pending prosecutions, Mr. JAMES, on Friday, opened the case on the part of f the writer's views, we clearly and distinctly, the more especially because which they now hold that people. The mind of Ire- or to the Repeal agitation, by any party who could even Present. He contended that the document of the reign pretend to have the requisite authority for making it." of Henry f VIII., brought forward . by Mr. Brandt, was rom an impression that that proposition has met with a large degree of land is the weapon which they wield, and must We long to hear the reply of O'Connell to this t ual p es e s op t l :t e r o t t he m, 7 i r s p to os n e . o b f ee e a s u ta se blis i h n inf h a e case in favor of ring policy of Sir Robert countenance from some of our Conservative con- wield, unless they throw off the allegiance of Rome, first place, the present watercourse di'd not answer the description con i that country. So far as temporaries, and a portion of the Conservative body for the attainment of the ulterior purposes of that point-blank denial. tamed in it ; and, secondly, if it had been ever so definite, lisplayed itself—particu- in the legislature and throughout the country. W e power; and Ireland chained down in abject slavery . THE NATIONAL SCHOOLS.—On Sunday two sermons its being unsupported by any evidence shewing that Whiston ever had possession of the disputed lands under f the vast armed force at allude to the proposed payment of the Roman Ca- of soul—lashed now to frenzy, and now worked up were preached in Saint Augustine's Church, Shaw-street, 'it almost be viewed as tholic clergy in Ireland—and in Great B r it a i n , as to enthusiasm by fantastic pi c t ures o f greatness by the Rev. John Jo nes , an d th e R ev. H ug h M'N e i le, in it, and does aw a y w ith any e ff ect that it might otherwise r behalf of the sc h oo l s i n i mme di ate connexien with this b e supposed to have ;he should produce docume n t s w hi c h well, we presu me —f rom t h e f un d s to be furnished awaiting her—is an i ns t rument f ar more potent in Church. —These two learned divines, in the course of would prove beyond d ou bt th at t hi s estate had always i b i eln D t w re . a n te e d sse a s s pa h it s of Prescot; he would also produce the hands of Rome, than Ireland tranquil, happy, their Sermons, which were attentively listened to by very by the state, or, more properly, the people of the full congregations, clearly pointed out the great and pa- , living witnesses, . , ando testimony would go atleast as far as iis opponents , would skew that, whatever the Wins- United Kingdom. and submissive to the constitution of the British remount importance of the blessings and advantages of ' ton people might have thought, the Prescot people had empire. early scriptural education. These schools, under their never any idea of any other boundary, save that contended Upon every ground—of justice, of expediency, zealous and excellent pastor the Rev. Dr. Tattershall, are Still, it will be asked, why not mak e this effort to in a state of great efficiency; upwards of four hundred for by them. and of principle —we must protest against such a then hista a pu w t a i t n er a .o m o a u p rse made ,as i v n is l ii 7 3 .7 i n e o,. l iv i e h where no m u ch se il f d u rien sec o u f la t r he i poort instruction, h g daily, l in principlesaddition to all alts weaken the potency of such a weapon in the hands of e o measure as the endowment by a Protestant people, m e mo amounted to u ptrds 0 f trace ' of A tiL IE N S N' Rome ? Our answer is,—we might consent, even gospel truth. The c e ol u lec ' tions a e a lease, dated 1612, of Prescot Hall and lands and certain in this country or in Ireland, of a church which ac rights to Thomas Malbon, from the lords of the manor of to so vast a sacrifice of consistency and character, £BO. j P e r o e t sc t o o t t ; h s e om in e te o r f po th si e t s io e n ri o g f hts were to be exercised sub knowledges as its supreme head a foreign potentate n ii 4.7,,,,,50. WALES.—It will be E on the part of the British Government, and the LATE INCENDIARY A O R Fy FIRES TAE the four men of the Manor —a church which we believe to be idolatrous and Court two i, eoafraPareftsecrott.beTglireanTiungrt orfoltlheoflePasreescowtisfor putl 6 i l 4, S I U N P ;O OS R E T British people, could its succes-sful result be demon- remembered, that on the occasion of a recent incendiary schismatic, and to entertain views hostile to the in shewing that Thomas Malbon, the tenant of Present strafed. But we maintain that it is not in this s ri fi a r e a 1 which 1 (1 1 iecvhi devised occurred g charge n wa llorth a aid Wales, before a t iie somewhat m a i str i a n t g e s e n o i - f tegrity of the empire, and the security of those Pro direction that our efforts should be made. Advan- Manchester, by a man named Hardman, implicating a of Hall, t hem was a n p o r r e presented dt that holding t n h e e d lands i) t the e under the c lords testant institutions which are wedded to the hearts tageous, indeed, it would undoubtedly be, if we youth of the name of Brown as the perpetrator of the Other rolls were pat in, shewine that the cOnsta r ble u s ur o t i crime. The statement of Brown, as to his absence from the were under the . direction of the four men, of the majority of the British people. Such a church could raise the standing, the morale, and the acquire- the scene of destruction at the lime, having since been and that towns hip these constables received rates from the tenant we are content to tolerate; and its members we have asantdisfaaetcoormilymeusntltisiohnedn,,Hasarmdtani3en w to as t f h urther t fa i Tined . , of Prescot Hall ; that the highway up to the hall was re which of the priesthood of Ireland •; but equally so e es already admitted to a full share of the privileges would it be if we could raise the condition and Wales, suggesting that inquiries should be made whether o iTi t r h ed e f b o y u t r h m e e s n urv a e n ) d , or t s ha o t f a t highwaysheeertain sum, by which tire directions d which we enjoy as British subjects. But we can go i i n n t tv a i t d l u o a e l al 7 t s 1 - 11,4• , d ne ma r n esu h l i t mse s lf t had been seen character of the people of Ireland; and neither of e by the rolls to be due from Thomas Malbon api t ' o eu the no further. PRINCIPLE—aIas, how readily is this recently s ueh a u e c x o p n e st ri a s b e l s e o s f of su t o h i e l r t e ow a ? r ,..w7 ir s to James in part payment of the s. of f mg es p o u o t t in Hall,o th other for two these ob j ects, we fear, are to be obtained by subsi- evidence that he had been so seen, imm w ediatelyre c io v r e e ry the best guide overlooked in these days of expediency ! t bre o t a h king l 9 c u e t o f f s t t he A fire ; 11 and d ur ) on his .d being handed over rolls, shewing that the tenant fhhis has b e identityetl hundredfor disobeyingyea rs it back,b by had puttingb een ufined gatesby t o h n e t Manor he di disputed dising Rome. Such a measure would only be ano -will allow us to go no further. We can no more they step in that fatal course of concession, by which clasp to the national breast an alien church, with its brought forward before P th ' e mag t is e tra v t l e e t u h c e e re o , committed to gaol to await his trial for the offence at the land, and for other encroachments ; and that such tenants the Protestant interests of Ireland have already been anti-national hierarchy, and its Romish head, than next assizes. had afterwards obeyed the court : the rolls also sheaved we can submit our liberties to the keeping of a fearfully weakened another step towards the STKE F THE PITMEN IN THE C DUR- that the P Hall een r t triumph of Rome, or a c i v il convulsion, which must HAM.— RI A serious dispute has lately taken OUNTY place OF tw en bee they had tenants acted co of ntrary rescot to the had customs b p o e f e' e t L e d In ' nor. Popish soverei g n. Th e gen i us of the British con triumph -- "-lie. Protestant ; and when it decimate the Irish people. the pitmen of the Thorneley colliery, (the property of Sir He produced an authenticated perambulation, dated 1758, William Chaytor, Mr. Gully, and others,) a n d th e i r e re _ taken by the authorities of Prescot, wherein these lands One consummation, indeed, might be the result ployers, with respect to the interpretation to be put upon were particularly described, and a ' survey, dated three of a state provision being made for the clergy of the the bond under w hi c h th e f ormer are engaged, and the years a ft erwar d s, w h ere i n they were also comprised. He Church of Rome, w hi c h wou ld not b e without its ad- allege of its conditi ons b y the latter. produced c ons t a bl e - rates, church-races, hig,hway-rates, tja -fu r d a pleanon-fulfilment tl i r fi at they were defrauded o f their fair wages land-tex assessments, from 1730, shewing that these vantages. It might • enable a certain portion of the by the use of a weighing machine on the steelyard prinei- lands had always been rated to Prescot. He produced clergy of the Church of England, by whose party g e r 2 v i a n a s c te e a a d t o h f e apiftamirenbasltarnuceei; work, ;;Ivaitvhei:eoernnebrmouingioirt t w h h e e c re er t te es c e at l e an o i f is th w e er r e edemption of the land-tax in 1802, redeemed as part of the township organs it is chiefly advocated, to fall back into the up before the magistrates, at the justice-room, in the city of Prescot. He produced bills one hundred years old, e t i i r re in p r e ie n n a t l u t' r e e s s cla A in f n .t e e d r a to s b to e r d m u y e twhienichhi.gthhwe a o y ve o rs n ee t zof di P sp r u es te co d t g h: o ad un p d aid for the d reprAir t f position, which is evidently to be their ultimate one, o ac f c D o r u ct r i h n a g rn t o , ftuhrerteeenuovre recovery y f of th and save us the scandal of seeing men, in heart, hearing of the case on Thursday last, at which, on both court roll books, from which it appeared that e p the tenants members of the for mer , su b m i tt i ng to rece i ve the sides, symptoms of a disposition to arrange m a tters w e re of Present Hall had attend e d the court of P resco t, or manifested, the furth er hearing of the case w as pos t pone d paid their essoign mono Y. quite as wages of the latter. Th e t rans i t i on would, un- unt i l Friday. The men, however appear to have been i n habit an t s of any other part of th e to regular as the in own. tboadprhoatnrados the e ei d r i a s d p, vio te cate a , n Mr. a r t . t ßoberts, head jou e r v n i e n r c i in si g tt a in d g esi o r n e Ja S m u e c s h p w r z u p o a e r d t o inf the sup d o o r e t u o m f e w n evidencet h aT e y hb li d which Mr. doubtedly, be more easy, and involve less of sacri fice, from a Protestant establishment to the bosom Friday no agreement had been come to up to the hour at witnesses to prove that p they had . always e a hear i t i l u t rr ha e t ro the s of a state-endow e d P op i s h c h urch, t h an from a Pro- which our last a d v i ces reac h e d . Meer Stone was the boundary, and that Present Hall was in testant establishment t o a c h urc h , w h ose Prescot. He call e d severa l w h o proved that the manor THE WHIG MINISTRY. —Th e w hi g newspapers assume ministers that Lo r d M e lb ourne an d hi s colleagues lost office because coroner, had regularly :sat at inquests on the disputed must stoop to practices distasteful and repugnant to rw t a h ht l es p r) roposed a fixed duty on corn, and they forget (or land il ; es t t h a a te t hadinaupbers gaining l their l. settlements Ott Prescot w theyer weredetermine driven fro n m o t o tofie office b remember) eee t b e t y h that they Ig s (the t lar H y e rcellevdedaboduta a treatedazzen the minds of educated men. Nay the measure proposed the as belonging to Pr re might even bring about that " Catholic Union" so confidence of the nation ; and that it was justly lost, the spectable witnesses, wino proved not only that they consi much sighed for in the cloisters of Oxford, and in t w i:ni as e a wh s e t n ri fte ,g y i os brought taoee forward r wotheirtherefore,bil lfor a fixed be duty goredstablest,hgthwaLi"hialliecxtieorneiosendtitnrieirisapuuttartsytattiemaes,caond ashiriereosfoowthAmailpr:ldtzlerdbwtaill-rants theywhi a c: ) i les w witnesses,e r Gadwere executed w 10 appointed i a d too many of the pulpits of English divines. We t c i an . did, t in these whig advocates, to ascribe the downfall of b t y the Manor Court. although calle c d u o u ll i\ r r e r i . r . ( I ) 3a , c r o o n n n s e t i 1 other e n r i c o a s t us p e r s o V a r t s e t , tot their alt—and coalition n ext to w t i h th e cannot, however, contemplate the question in such a light without regret and shame; and gladly leave degradation to which they submitted to preserve his been born on Prescot Hall estate, and had never heard, it without more than thi s p ass i ng remar k , patronage; and that to such an ex t en t , as to o b ta i n for until the p resen t di spute arose, that Prescot Hall was in themselves, even am ongs t th e i r f r i en d s, t h e name of the Whiston : that they h a d p l aye d round the Meer Stone when children squeezable administ ra ti on , an d , fi na ll y, to the t i me when, w (the bound ary conten d e d for b y Prescot); and and to the re ason w h y, t h ey a d vocated a fixed duty of Bs. had always heard their parents and the old inhabi 1, I These were the causes of their downfall, but these whig tants say that such Meer Stone was the boundary between -T, advocate s fi n d t h at if t h ey h a d the candour to make such Prescot and Whi s t on . H e ca ll ed witnesses wino stated w an admission, thei r occupa ti on wou ld b e gone. Hence th a t th ey h a d p l ayed a b out the ditch contended for by these causes are kept out of sight, and their downfall is Whiston as their boundary when they were children, but ascribed to the bare fact of h av i ng propose d a fi xe d duty never h ear d it ca ll e d a b oundary; never considered' it a n of Bs. per quar t er i n p l ace o f t h e sliding scale; whereas, brook, and that th ere was no runn i ng water in this ditch , that prop os iti on was cons id ere d b y the public, not on its 40 years ago. ire. intrinsi c mer i ts , b ut on l y as an additional proof of the Mr. James clo s ed hi s case a b out two o ' clock, after , unworthy (the squeezable) mo ti ves b y w hi c h t h e w hi g ad- which Mr. Brandt rep li e d b y an e l oquent appeal on behalf ministration was gu id e d. of Whiston. ink EXTRAORDINARY COMMOTION AMONGST GOOD The decision will not, of co urse , b e k nown f or the pre us t sent. Housewives.—A contemporary, w ho se sources o f in- , formation ex t en d even i nto " t h e b owe l s of the earth, " if The land in dispute compr i ses one- h alf of the area of Prescot township. vit . ; he is not al s o, lik e Gl en d ower, on v i s i t i ng acquaintance the with th e " sp i r i ts o f t h e vasty deep, " propounded, on ext Tuesday la s t, th e f o ll ow i ng oracu l ar an d awful warning : " We recommend good housewives to lose no time in tsu looking into the stat e of their coal cellars!" And t o at of clench so s i gn ifi can t an appea l to tine prudent and careful amongst womankind, the writer continued, " for if the ninis colliers tur n o u t," & c . " coa l sw i ll b e much clearer before tion- Christmas"— a conc l us i on w hi c h , as the old song has it, "nobody can deny!" Had a thunderbolt fallen down the grid, or a policeman been found secreted in the pantry of every house in Liverpool and its suburbs—in every house, at all events, by whose inmates our sublime contemporary is read—a greater amount of consternation could scarcely have been excited than was the result of this awful an nouncement. There was a universal " getting down stairs" from breakfast, drawing, and dining rooms into the subterranean apartments. Committees of inquiry sat in every coal vault. Scuttles were everywhere overhauled ; grates were contracted with a view to prevent the waste of the precious material, coal ; and, in some quarters the sifting of the cinders was tremendous. For some days the run upon the banks (in the coal yards) was incessant ; and tine charge of getting in a load was raised from six pence to one and twopence! Up to tine moment of pub lication we are not in receipt of any further information with respect to this impending calamity—this threatened decrease in the supply of caloric. Our contemporarv's reporter is, however, no doubt actively employed under ground ascertaining the precise state of affairs, amongst the ebony-faced zentlemen who are said to be conspiring to freeze us ; and if anything very important transpires, as the result of his explorations, we shall probably give it in an early second edition. In the meantime, good house wives should be very, very careful, and put the cook upon half allowance of coal, taking the precaution to padlock the cellar door. LAW-SUIT BETWEEN PRESCOT AND ithr e appear o vale At all events, ly directed ncy, foreseen as possi- he state, in self-defence, ) to preserve the pe nd liberties of her Protestant ch measures of whole- d, to our judgment, con- ures proposed by both f Ireland, the writer on of his own views upon out, by .e Ireland can be lift ach as ha It may be that long spirit of pecially since th s which are corn s to wealth and pros England. There an of the I Ipon us the un no alterna proved thi giver and th only two, of effectin o back a littl sure d abide there. If yot ss and profit by the at her under restriction. and the val itators at ODCE I Church, enlarging tilt lueer and abstiact - plat , and increase the num• se of Commons to 175 .ntlemen when y is with the presence it ,t all when your at deal more than tensive than then satisfied ; and all the fruit of peace is I picture of the condition I be reduced by the adoption a, the writer goes on to policy he neglected wife- kNight with Punch ri.locent Dec. 12, 1811 MEXICO. Commercial letters from Mexico, represent ba rl se j ess matters at Tampico and Vela Cruz as in a most depre s .,4l condition. The continued alterations made in the had caused heavy losses to the storekeepers, anl, ig, consequence was felt i n severa l h eavy failures. i"000 however, considered th a t th e want of goods will 5 0 convince Gen. S an t a A nna and his government of t error they have comm i tte d i n their late arrang eraen; with reference as well as to the increase of duties 89 iiig the prohibitions effected in vario us instances. Sc!t, e ca seems to be know n h ere o f t h e measures taken bel"-the Lord Aberdeen and the Mexican representative at. he s British Court, M r . M urp h y, nor has it transpired ifilek'ne, or not Mr. Baukhead i s soon to d epart for the re pou' otg A hope is in the meanw hil e expressed by the mere ba of that the lenity o b serve d b y the English Governmem ten, not prove to have been impolitic and injurious,in its dency. • 11 Santa Anna app ears t o h ave conceived some exceedlogo strange notions respecting this country, and while he vi so vitally affecti ng our commerce by his insane interfe reece with those engage d i n it, rendering by his conduct speculative enterprise, with a view to the future, P,_e r „ l ;nu s in the extreme, he was occupied with certain azio" g t plans for his own personal and individual aggrandisew..ebie which betokened a selfishness altogether incomP 3 , ll 4o with that superiority of mind for which credit bas. givuu him. With these there would be the less 1115 P;o l t tion to find fault, were the interests of our corarnere e ias substantially da mage d b y t h e i n i mical steps taken by h upon the other points noticed. His petty vanities, in c ol junction with h is gross i nvas i on of the recognise d rig and privileges of foreigners settled at Vera Cruz and Tilt Pico, call for remark, inasmuch as they would certant lead to the fair conclusion that the intellect of the to vidual is in some d egree d isturbed. The fact that t hi s 'll; personage was at his farm of Mango de Clavo, in t ed vicinity of V era C ruz, ma ki ng preparations for an ex pee ith attack from th e B r i t i s h naval forces, for the bad (.031 shown in the non sett l ement of the commercia l claim made upon hi s exchequer, and whi c h h av e hereto ;85 formed a subject of comment, may perhaps be r egaraild, some confirmation of the justice of the suspicion m_' o / many must naturally have formed concerning t h e state t to his mind, f or , on th e w h ole, it is almost impossib l e en fancy that hi s l a t e f rant i c proceedings must have been " effect of at least a partial or temporary aberration. • Bd Vet' HIIBARD GALLERY. —The l ast wee k b ut one IS tised in another column. The British and N or th American royal-mail steam-shiP od Caledonia, C a pt a i n L ott, which would leave Bostod.,„ the Ist and H a lif ax on t h e 3d instant, may be expec ted arrive here on Thursday. The packet-ship Independence, Captain Nye, would leave New York on the ith or Bth instant, no doubt, bring the President's Message, may be exPTh i st here about Christmas Dam She arrived on that daY yer ar. 5 a t EATON HALL —The Mar qu i s an d M arc bioace roa s Westminster will s h ort l y b e surrounded by a "Ti n e id family circle and the h a ll w ill b e f u ll of compan y the approaching holidays. THE Roscins.—This packet-ship which left I fte e r fl , York on the 25th u lt. was off Holyhead yesterday 8 405 noon at two, b u t s h e h a d not reached the river in " if s for our first impressions this morning. We hope to g the intelligence in an early second edition. peo' BRITISH IRON CO.' S W ORfiS.— RUABON.--.Thiget pie have returned t o wor k , at their former wage s, -_„, es having give n no ti ce t h at, i n ten days, unless their tclB,l are then raised, they will strike work to a man ; --e° ,o3 , there is little prosp ec t o f any a d vance b eing ma de, a ° eral strike is looked for. • THE CHASE.—Th e Ch es hi re F oxhounds mee t this dal ( r d; (Tuesday), at Appleton; on Wednesday, at Ha tt o j a elC on Thursday, at H;ghway Side ;. on Saturday, at the Off Dog, Seighton ; on Monday, at Aston ; on Wedries2ist, the 20th instant, at Hankelew ; on Thursday, th e s tog at Cholmondely ; and on Saturday, the 23d, at vv Green, near Crewe;—each morning at half-past ten. 0 SUP CI O . 3 I MARINERS' CHURCH READING ROOM. — On gas M•Neile in the Mariners' Church, in aid afternoon, a sermon was preached by the Rev- Sea' of the t he mens' Reading -room attached to that church, w be er sum of X2l 16s. was co ll ecte d . The "building" ° vet' cessively crowded, and hundreds were content to eat on the deck t o th e faithful exhortations of the elt g l u divine. at tl ie f WELSH CHARITY SCHOOLS. --We understand- th os charity ball which takes place every alternate year, i k n ,,id is the Welsh Charity Schools in this town, will be u'i s hea parch next, at the Town Hall, under very distiog n dre di patronage. There are at the present time many h 11 , 1 ,1 3 001f , of children receiving a sound education in these 5 " del; which are well conducted, and of course it is vetj ta i a eo rable that as l arge a sum as possible should b e nu at the approaching ball for their benefit. he °f' THE Wisrrgit. ASSIZE.—The offi c i a l no tice of t to be rangements connected with the Special Cotnroissict daeg opened in this town, on Saturday next, show that it not extend to prisoners committed to Lancasterjoodaf The court will sit for the despatch of business on • f col next, at eleven o'clock. The witnesses in cases °f der, manslaughter, rape, and misdemeanour are 1 " V n in court at eleven o'clock on Tuesday morairtielel fr witnesses in all other cases are to attend in coat' T. S o T e GEORGE'SLeigh, the CHURCH.—It presentit acu l e . o'clock on Monday morning. d i e —ctultreirs rumoured will succeed the late Rev. T. Moss, in the re lo° ' t o Walton. It is generally understood that on th e r ge l st: of Mr. Leigh a vacancy will be caused at St. Geobut be filled up by the present patron of the church' lilted by we have ascertained, is not the fact, as it is stiP e u it her e t the act of parliament, that on the retirement 0' he reafter st. Geo r t g h e :, , : se a c r h a u z_e r - , b oa t the present ministers the remaining one shall % c o 0 officiate alone, and the act provides for the pa y only one minist er f rom t h at period. • bee MINT CASE.—On Saturday last, two a1e 13 ,.,ed u .,; ( 1 Brennan and B ar th o l emew Stevenson were c° B "' foe" fore Mr. Rushton, at the Police- cour t, w ith bei n g t . or the_ in possessio n of certain plaiste r o f P ar i s mould s __ e bas: making of c oun t er f e i t shillings, and also of soo the for re coin in the beer cellar and eating-house kept b „ Y i r ls mer prisoner in Bannastre-street. Several ,a l g.. - h e d found concealed under a bed and a base Itat in) 'b a d ling was found in one of them. Thirteen other „ o at& lings prepared for circulation were also found They were both committed for trial at the assiz" si oA• MISSIONARIES OF THE SCOTTISH CHURCH l oldbc —Observing that a sermon is to be preached i' ;t j aaY street Church to-morrow evening (W e dnesdaY , i n ',i,,ioa' o, interesting'to many to state that the whole of„th e ff. e ries of the Scottish Church in India, Drs• "I"; a 'dheren o , &c. (thirteen in number,) have decared tb a l eer , in clth to the Free Churc of Scotland, and havir oaet her w eft sequence deprived l ot the mission premise s, f p roviding ° e lf considerable funds in hand, the burden °••• p s bears y ell.. establishments at the different mission s tatic , e of our heavily on the " Free Church" in the Pr essu d r building, &c. at present going on in Scotian DES, ------ , 5 MANCHESTER CORN EXCHANGri, trade;artcie,, We have to report another week of inanima te n requiring particular observation has been done in arrivalsd Irish Flour and Oatmeal are considerable : and prices have remained without alteration• h e r We The fiatness ' o d f the a O we OD a iO re o2 " g o r t s be vv y h o e n a d t a . n n a d v l e i rtg_e g b q r u i a s nt F it io y . , : from Canad a ny tO an d the tende gas it : la ester t •- a - u ' a teali; decline in the price of we do the turn "10 effect upon us this morning, and though positive reduction in prices f Wheat and Flour. .". sr i c es• n t lat e Y favour of the buyer. Oats and Oatmeal dull a Beans and Malt. rir. -•_ - 'l:i VTt r i l eTt o. latmAiti'a.kkl eld y V , -_ _ - . -% ; --------- 11. LIVERPOOL CATTLE MARKE T ' DEC' d pr ices . We have had a ve r y d u ll C a ttl e market to-daY , f %a to sd ' may be considered a b out t h e same as our last - n ee Mutton 4.,,tcl to 5d Without being able to quote an advance Dgc• 11. LIVERPOOL PROVISION MARK — e of 13°- ter, we have this week to notice a decided ImPrn! ho lders h a t demand for all descriptions ; and the generality ricest Pear sanguine about being able to obtain better P at for Bacon is fair, and the currency is Christmas shall have turned. Pickled seconds are_n ed 010 0 1 : same low figure, viz. 68s to figs. Irish Beef is ( 27 19 4. f freely, and for 87s 6d per tee., a good article may referencel Pork holders require very full prices. A marked derna P the Prg ent i n the S by ship masters to the Irish manufacture. '" unaltered. LIVERPOOLHAY AND-----POTA.TOE DEcn4l3Elt 11 0 s. d. s . d. Flay, o ld 201 t, 0 g 0 10 l 110 - 2 new ...... 0 6 lO 0 3 5 Clover •••• 0 i 0 1— 1 3 G rass...... 0 4 i 0— 1 Straw,VVheat• 0 0 0 6 —2l 0 Oa ts ...... v 0 —3l 0 13ar1ey .•.• Potatoes, 19 , gay Pink.ei 's Cups ..., Short-tops Cattle Turnips, leo ton Carrots TIDE TABLE MRN. I EVN. HEI 011 T 0 Tuesday 12 2 6 12 28 15 7 IVenus sets 4.. - e ednes. 13 250 314 14 10 IVenys Thurs... 14 34 ) 4 8 14 4 Jupiter sets 8 1, 511 4 Friday.. 15 "4 39 513 13 11 Saturn sets fih 2 f,', en,ot Saturdayl6 -. 5 46 622 14 e Cam• Mich• Te r Acil" 4s . Sunday 17 658 734 14 6 3rd Sunday iii r il_ 0 Monday 18 8 7 8 39 15 0 Oxf. Mich• Te P' LIVERPOOL : TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 183. PRINTED AND PUBLISHED EVERY TUESDAY MOICNI". o G f r s e 3 at ,G o r r o f :e r - d s _V t e re e o e t o ' C: LEONARD Ai7DISON of 113:: At No. 4, ST. 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