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t» . SEPT. 23, J.S:6. the government of the theorist or the despot—to Serve the ascendancy of the rising intellects of the age—the supremacy of the people exonerated froth the restraining security of the peerage! The candid exposition made by Lord Skelmersdale, whilst it perfectly exonerates the peers from even the 'shadow of unworthy motives, in their_ acts. of the past session, shows tlia animus which has'actuated the designs of their enemies, whilst they, the peers, were strictly en gaged in fulfilling a constitutional duty, in the adoption or rejection,of measures according to the due.exercise of their deliberative authority. Speaking of the various measures or bills sent up to them, his lordship says, that "they had all been considered and discussed upon their own merits. • Where it appeared that the principle was unexceptionable, but that the details were capable of alteration or improvement, such alteration or improve ment had been made, and the bills sent down to the Commons, in their amended _state, to be adopted or re jected, as the case might be. On the other hand, when the principle appeared defective they did not compound with falsehood or nzischtef; but threw out the bill, taking all the consequences of the obloquy that might rest upon them. for so doing." Here are declarations in every respect worthy of a conservative British peer; and we Would ask what just imputation of blame rests upon the House of Lords for having acted as described ? Is that high estate to be called together merely for the purpose of acting the solemn farce of registering the edicts-of the House of Commons, and of passing, without commentary, all the abominably mischievous trash of legislation pre pared at the fag-end of a session of Parliament, wasted in a great measure in personal contention, and in propounding and contending for principles that were disgraceful tO a body of rational beings. We say, then, the House of Lords 'stands exonerated upon the showing of. Lord Skelmers dale, even if we had not been before satisfied by the brih liant statement of.. Lord Lyndhurst. The country is also satisfied, that is, the great community of intelligent be ings we understand as " the people ;" and if the Whigs and their honourable associates wish any further evidence at our hands, we give : it_ them in the letter of their own co-adjutor, Sir William Molesworth, to the electors of Ease Cornwall, bidding them adieu, lest in the event of the anticipated election he should be chasse, in the same form as my Lord of Russell from SoUth Devon I It is a most gratifying circumstance to us to be enabled to announce that the Synod of Ulster has decided, by a majority of twenty l eightio two, against taking part•in the national system of Irish education. The Synod has also, with great spirit, exposed the, under-workings which the board have had •recourse to, for the purpose of consolidating that system of fallaCiqui instruction in the'essentials of our holy religion. This event will, indeed, prove an aloetic dose to our worthy elect of the town council; and we have cause for exultation, that the course pursued by our protestant 'clergy in Liverpool has been fully sympathised in by this act of the Protestant Presbyterian Synod of Ulster. If that system is declared by the dissenting body in Ireland to be impure in principle, and indefensible in practice, in that country, Where even Lord Stanley has admitted it had some foundation to build upon, on account of the relative disproportion in num bers of the Roman catholic and protestant population, on what pretext, save that of its being a political stalking-horse, for men of easy principles in religion and morals, can the introduc tion of the Irish system be applied for our protestant church, or even dissenting population in England ? We are greatly indebted to Dr. Cooke for the able exposition he has given of the jesuitical trickery which has been resorted to—the " Educational Board" has already the " brand on its forehead;" and we fancy we can now behold the wry faces of some of our worthy advocates of the "national system" nearer home, met in first essay of their refined philosophy. Verily,- champions of the council board, we wish you much••joy of your newly-adopted pet child. Between the decision of the Synod of Ulster, and the elevation of our protestant school, we are fearful the cholera of unpopularity itself awaits your mighty labours ! Sic transit yloria Mandl ! A correspondent has kindly hinted to us, that " the radical and unitarian faction have resolved on inviting Lordlielbourne and Lord John Russell to a dinner at the Aniphitheatte." Well, and what, care we if the woful resolve has been - taken ? Is conservatism at so low an ebb as to dread..the -comparison ? We say, in reply, let the deputy cabinet-maker of Mister O'Connell, and therejeCied Liird of South Devon come. Why Should they not? Are we - afraid to meet Lord Melbourne or Lord John Russell upon our own ground? Let those who read the columns of the STANDARD juclge for us. "Truth without fear," is our motto. We say then, let them comet LANCASHIRE AND CHESHIRE YIIOAIANRY.—The Royal Lan cashire Yeomanry Cavalry assemble for training at Lancaster on the 21st, instant, and will be reviewed on the 28th. The Cheshire Yeomanry assemble in Liverpool in a few days, and will be reviewed about the 30th of thepresenttnonth. LEAD AND COPPER MINE.-- I :At . Messrs. Winstanley and Sons' salei at the. Clarendon-rooms, on Wednesday, one 15th share in the isleuf Man mines was bought in for £3,150. Six 48th shares•in the Coniston copper mines were bought in for £l4O each, and were subsequently, sold to Mr. Lynn, at £165 each. ULVERSTON UNION:—A union of several parishes has been formed in the north of Lancashire,. under the name. of the UI-• verston Union, for the purpose of carrying into effect the pro visions of the poor laws-reform act. The Earl of Burlington, and Mr. Braddyll, of Conishead Priory, two' of the principal landed proprietors in the district, have taken an active part in its formation. • MENDELSSOHN'S ST. PAUL.—The choruses of the first part have been rei some days in the hands of the singers at Liver pool. They will have the whole, we hear, in a week hence. The principals were supplied with -their parts a fortnight and three weeks ago. At Dusseldotff, when the oratorio, was first. brought forward, the solo singers - received 'their copies three days before'the performance, This is an answer to the groaners. --Musical .World. MRS. GARDNER.—We understand that several cases of deaf ness and other disorders of the ear have yielded to the mild end innocent treatment adopted by the celebr a t e d aur i st, M rs. Gardner, and it canno t but b e gratifying to those who have, not as yet had an opportunity of consulting this celebrated lady, to learn that it is still in their power teitia se,,in consequence of her stay in Liverpocit tieing extended till the end of the festival. CAUTION TO BAKERS.—From and after the first day of Octo ber next, every baker or seller of bread must be provided with scales and weights in his shop, that all bread sold therein may be weighed in the, presence of the purchaser thereof. And every person carrying bread for sale in a cart, or other carriage, must also carry scales and weights therein, in order that such bread may be weighed in presence of the person - purchasing the same, under a penalty not exceeding £5. TRIBUTE OF RESPECT To LORD LYNDHURST.—A party of gentlemen who frequent the Rainbow Hotel, Williamson-Square, who are staunch conservatives in every sense of the word, feel ing the highest respect and gratitude for the respected and ta lented Lord Lyndhurst, : who has so strenuously supported and Upheld the principles of the cons tit u ti on, have subscribed to pur chase a portraitof his lordship, to present to the landlord of that inn, to be placed in the bar parlour as a humble earnest of their 'admirati o n of the noble and patriotic exertions which that noble Man has made in the cause of his country. APPREHENSION OF A MURDERER.—On Monday, John Ryan, an Irishman, who had been some days in custody at the town bridewell, was placed at the bar of the police-office, charged with the murder of a person named Stapleton, in Ireland, about twelve months ago. One of the Dublin police-officers identi fied the prisoner as the person against whom he had a warrant, and on his undertaking to pay -the expense of the prisoner's maintenance in bridewell,, Mr. Hall ordered the prisoner to be given up to him. The prisoner was heavily ironed, and put on board a Dublin steam-packet about to sail in the afternoon. CORPORATION Sotioor.s. 7 -Welind that the female children in the South Corporation School are made to walk about with .and bays on their heads to improve their figures ! This is what 'is called bodily education in the new march of intellect phrase 'ology. We also find that Mr. Simpson, the Scotch philosopher, 'Who came 'to enlighten the town-council in their campaign against ancient prejudices, has recommended that the children should have water-closets instead of the old-fashioned acconnno 'dation which' has hitherto been provided for them, and which is 'declared to be immoral. It will be very consoling to the 'pa rents to know, that though their children. have not bibles. in school hours, they will have sa n d b ags; an d though they have lost the catechism, they are to have water closets !--:Couriei. DEATH BY POISON.—On. Meniclay.evening an inquest was held before Me. P. F. Curry, coroner, on view of the body of Jane Morris, an infant. Anne Morris, the mother of the de ceased, stated that she was the wife of William Morris, a rigger, living in a court leading out of Knight-street. The deceased 'was three months old, and being ill, witness, on Saturday, went to the shop of Mr.. Corlett the surgeon, and purchased a mix— ture, consisting of the syrup of rhubarb and poppies. On Sun day afternoon the dec eased was very ill, and witness went to the cupboard in which she had put the mixture and taking out .4 phi a l gave about half a tea spoon full of its contents to the in, fant, She at the moment thought it was the mixture, but di rectly after found it to be a bottle of laudanum which her hus band was in the habit of using fora vain in hi s f ace . Wi tness took the , baby to. Mr. Corlett, but in defiance of the proper antidotes which were administered without loss of time, the child died at ten o'clock on Monday te ornin a,. g. Thejury re turned a verdict of "accidental death.` CAUTION TO SERVANTS.—Ou Monday last, the following 'darin g attempt at robbery took place in Tiixteth Park. Earle 'an th e morn i ng o f th a t d a y ; a Mrs. Humby, w h o keeps a house that neighbourhood fancied she heard some person above listairs, and, determined to ascertain who it could be, s h e j am ,. ately' imparted her apprehensions to the servant girl. A po 'ieetnan passing at the time was called in, and also made ac luainted with the suspi • cions of Mrs. Humby. At length M rs tiutnby, her servant girl, and the officer, went up stairs, and !t h ere, in one of the bed-rooms, concealed behind the cur,tain-s, , i naY found a oune• lad, named John Gaffney, who is about 13 hours . of age. y He was interrogated as to how he got there, but satisfactory answer cod be obtated from him. The oce `",ett searched him and on his pet son n was found:a silk handkffier r ';',ef and a guard Cliain which were recognized as the property " 1 ". Humbv. The lad was taken' into custodY, and on Tues.. ' , IV last examined before. Mr. Hall, at the police court, and t a i e o ntoticed to three months' imprisonment in the house of correc rr,n at Kirkdale. ".%kIkIPORA AIUTANTIIR.—PubIic repoit says that Mine. de r _ received unusual honours lately at Aix la Chapelle; . being presented to herby the soldiery. The . drama is Qatri g ! We emember no instance of military honours pro ng pile' either to r s inger or actor, since the time when, if the cr i2, e rtiei of a cottager were missing off a hedge ; tbe corps dra th-euir oqe reputatiOn were instant y drumm l ed out of the town, on the strength --Musica . / World. \~l 1/2 ---~~ /4 M .rl , tlV..,t4t,Vytl,POOL .:I'A.fid-ii.,PJ.I. TOWN • CO UNCI4. PRO CI!7.DINGS. An adjourned meeting of the monthly council was held on Wednesday . last. The proceedings were commenced by the Mayor reading an application from the congregation of St. Michael's Church tube, allowed to erect a tribute of respect to the memory of their late minister, Mr. Berry, to ,which the council acceded. The Manoii then announced that he had received two poems from a gentleman, and which were directed to the corporation. The author stated that he had vent a . copy to the King, and bad. received an answer, which he enclosed with the poems. What his object was in presenting these poems, he could not divine, unless it was to obtain something of a substantial kind. They were too long to be read, but he would read, them if the council wished it. (Loud cries of " No, no, no.") The poems were then ordered to lie on the table. The MAYOR then announced that he had received a petition and prospectiis of the Liverpool and 11 amburgh Joint Stock Qnill and Pen Company, requesting the patronage of the corpo ration and their sanction towards the formation of the company. Ode feature of the prospectus was, that the projectors said it would give employment t o 500 or 1,000 little children, of various ages from 8 to 14 years. They also stated that the Ostrich feather and artificial flower business took its origin in France, and gave employment chiefly to young paupers, and now it was no uncommon thing for a manufacturer to employ as many as 3,000. Thecapital of the company was to be £20,000, in 2,000 shares of £lO each. The council declined hearing the prospectus read, as they had got copies. The DEPUTY TOWN-CLERK read a memorial from certain parties complaining of the p ,, lrrowness of a thoroughfare from Temple -court to Dale-street:---Referred to the improvement committee. BY-LA WS. The MA von said the next business to be brought before the special council related to the by-laws. The 'lbws-ct,Eux then proceeded to Teed the report of the committee on ,The committee had met ou this subject since the last council, and had had all seisting bv-laws under their revision, and had made several alterations. .But the com mittee conceived that much information was required regarding them before they could consider them as finally settled. They therefore hoped that a copy of the by-lawS would be laid before each of the members of the council, for perusal, and also at the office of the town-clerk, for the perusal of persons interested, in order that the by-laws might be finally settred by the committee before they were submitted to an adjourned meeting of the council, to be held ten days from the present time. The com mittee had caused by-laws to be prepared which would have the effect of extending to the new part of the borough various pro visions in the local acts which applyonly to the old borough, for the suppression of streetnuisances, for the better regulation of slaugh ter houses &c. These by-laws,•to the number of upwards of 60, might now be taken into consideration, but the committee thought it more expedient that they should first be submitted to the same test as the other by-laws had been. The subject of electing the surveyor of buildings might be referred to the improvement committee. Mr. Alderman BLAIN moved that this report be adopted, which was seconded by Mr. THORNHILL. Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE. thought that a subject of such importance as the by-laws ought to be printed and made public. Mr. Councillor E. SMITH would second that, in order to show t hat he was not an enemy to , printing in all cases. If it was not very long he would insert it in his newspaper, if there was no objection to it. Mr. Alderman BLAIN had no objection to this addition, that they be printed. the MArott then understood this motion to be carried. ELECTION OF SURVEYOR OF BUILDINGS. The MAYOR then stated that it had been intended to have re ceived the recommendation - of the improvement committee for the election of a surveyor of building's, but they had thought it better to submit it to their surveyor to state who was an efficient person, and probably more than one would be required; they should be able to bring this subject forward at the next council meeting. CHURCH EXPENDITURE. The MAYOR said the next ,subject which came under their consideration was the subject of church expenditure, on which subject a motion and amendment had been given notice of at the last council meeting. The TowN-CLERK said he had a sketch of the supplementary report to the council, which he might as well read to the council, though, in order, it ought first to go through the hands of the finance committee. It was to the effect that counsels' opinion had been taken on the subject of payments to the organists, sextons, &c., and that opinion was that the corpora. tion were not under any legal obligation to make any such pay ments. In the cases where it appeared that the original presen tation, made under the seal of the corporation, granted certain stipends, the circumstances would require material considera tion whether the lecturers were entitled to claim on the corpo ration under the endowment or not. ' Mr. Councillor BOLTON now rose to bring forward the mo tion of Which he had given notice. He begged to call attention to the consideration of the expenditure of the corporation churches. In so doing, he would first advert to what had oc curred in pursuance of this object. Soon after the appointment of the finance committee in January last, a sub-committee was appointed for examinin g into the past ex p en di ture. O n that subject they had reported to the council on the Gth of April, and with permission he would read a part of that report. Mr. Bolton then read an extract from the report, showing the amount of various items of expenditure of the different corporation churches during the preceding years; and which report con cluded with-" And your committee recommand that the future expenditure on this account be 'strictly confined to the legal charges." (Hear.) This had been adopted by the council. He did not mean to say that what they agreed to should be like the laws of the Medes and Persians, never change, but when any alteration of their decision was to be made, very urgent reasons should be brought forward to justify such alteration. Immediately after this it became necessary to ascertain what expenses were legal, and what were not. The subject since then had been very much under the care of the town-clerk, and the result had been a very ample and conclusive report on all the matters about to be brought under consideration, and for which they were very much indebted to his legal ability. That part of the expenditure which related to the payments to the clergy he considered it was not now necessary to discuss, it being mixed up with and dependent upon the result of the endowment question which was now before the Court of Chancery, and therefore it would be unnecessary to say further than that a full provision would be made for the payment of the stipends of the clergy during their lives, to the full amount they had been ac customed to receive. (Hear.) He was not opposed to that; but to the endowment in perpetuity he was now and ever would be decidedly opposed. (Hear.) For he would maintain that the funds of the corporation belonged to every sect and party, and that it was an act of injustice to pay out of that fund any thin" for the promotion or advancement of any one denomina tion whatever, be they catholics or churchmen, or dissenters. He maintained this on the ground of principle. He was quite aware that, placed as they now were, there were acts of parlia nient which gave exclusive privileges to various churches, not only for ministers but for organists, clerks, and various other matters. Whilst these laws were in force it was his duty, and the duty of every subject to obey theta cheerfully. It might be their duty if they were unjust to endeavour to amend them. The next parts of the report of the expenditure on which might arise any discussion, were those parts which related to the organ ists. • It was provided by law that payments should be made to some of them, and to the sextons and clerks, and various other disbursements. With regard to these he would only remark that these payments ought to be made with a due regard to economy; they should be fair but not extravagant, and these expenses should be kept down to a moderate amount. Con nected with this part of the expenditure it was painful :o con trast the different results which had taken place in the manage ment of other churches as compared with those supported by the corporation. Whilst the corporation churches were sources of great expenditure, the churches- of Edge-hill,' St. Andrew's, St. Philip's, and several other churches which supported them selves, not only furnished the means of paying their own mi nisters, but also furnished to their proprietors a very handsome remuneration. (Hear.) That brought hitn•to that part of the expenditure which perhaps might be called the debatable part, as there was a difference of opinion as to the propriety of con tinuing it. Accordin g to hi s k now l e d ge o f th i s item of expen diture lie was happy to say that it was exceedingly pure now to what it had been. With regard to the church of St. Mi chael's, the first church he should - bring under their notice. the only expense he should object to was the expense of £63 a year paid to the singers; the organist was provided by law. The next church he should notice was St. Luke's. Sixty-three pounds was allowed for the same purpose in that church, and in addition there were £67. Is. paid for bell. ringers, which expense he held to be Missal and not obligatory. The next thing was an expense of £93. 15s. in St. Martin's Church, which was allowed for the choir for one year and a quarter. It began in 1834, when £63 was allowed, and then £B3 was allowed per annum, for what reason he could not tell. The next item brought him to the expenditure of St. George's Church, in which there was more variety and a larger amount allowed than to any of the other churches. The first item of expenditure was £63 for an organist, then £4 for an organ blower, £129. 3s. for choristers £4. 4s. fur tuning the organ, £32 for music, making altogether a total of £232. 75., for which there was no legal provision. The next matter was perhaps unimportant : it was a suns of £77. 17s. 6d. for organist, clerk, and sexton for St. Paul's Church, which charge was not obliga tory or warrantable under the municipal act. The next were various charges on account of St. Thomas's Church. The expenses per annum were £lO6. 19s. 7d., of which sum only £39 was legal, which made the excess of expenditure over what was legal £7l. 19s. 7d.. They had heard the report, and they would determine on what they would do, These were the items to which he objected, amounting in the four corporation churches to £6OB. ss. Id. per annum. They would seem to bear hard on St. George's Church, for whilst in the other churches there was provision made for many of these expenses, there was none in that; but when they-considered the wealth and fashion which adorned that church, and saw the splendid equipages whichsur rounded its door, he thought the congregation would not object to pay out of their oWit - ptickets for what was to administer to their own gratification, He :was told that it was intended to contend for the continuance of all these charges on a ground which he was surprised to hear-that it the music was with drawn from the churches, they would soon be empty. Really the religion of the estab;ishment must be at a very low ebb, if the withdrawal of the nitiiic would take away the congregations. If the subject was to be viewed as a mercantile question, l et Them look at it as such. tie had taken the expenditure of the last five years for St. George's Church, and he found it to be £7,942. 18s. 2d.: there had been received for seat rents £3,167. 18s. 7d. For St. Michael's Church, for the same pe riod, there . had been expended £4,674. 2s. Ild., and there had been received £2,712. 2s. 6d.; for St. Martin's there had been paid £5,010. 14s. 9d., and received £1,254. ss. 4d.;. for St. Luke's 'there had been paid £3,769. Bs. Od., and received £1,926. 17s. 7d. For these four churches there had been paid during the last five years a .sum of £21,397. 3s. lld., and re ceived £9,060. 145., leaving a loss on these four churches of £12,336. 9s. lid., or on an average £246. 7s. 2d. per annum for each church, not accounting for the loss of interest. Iu addi tion to which might be fairly added £2lO annuity paid to Mr. Case. That had n o t very much to do with the subject, but still it was apart of the sum which was paid out of the corporation or common properly. From this fund in the preceding seven years there had been expeuded £39,070 for building St. Mar tin's, St. Luke's, and doin , , something at the steeple of St. George's, which was a total outlay per annum for building churches of £5,581. 10s. In connexion with this subject, he believed it might be considered that what was paid to the or ganists would be termed a church-rate, and levied accordingly. The town-clerk had opened a report prepared by the Arch bishop of Canterbury and the Bishop of London on this subject, and in it the question of church rates was very fairly and cre ditably treated. That rep or t s t a t e d t h at c h urc h -rates ought to be made in vestry. It slated also that if in a vestry meeting But to t il t, the rat e was imposed, there was little difficulty in levying it. e statedocud further , thato ratet ,s h aa e o, s d a ofl.athr;it, therefore,t the expense p n e o n t legal se m u to b t t b n e a a y b i z: e ncl r i e m fe e t d r . ed imposing a which ..nil.f churchwardens,sstry refuse vvilo h a t v h e isex pence, it the power of zompetent in any parisbioner be made a. legal :charge by the sanetion of trite,majorit of the vestry, and when givsn it is not to object to it. When' this subject, ly i i iad L b h e i7l o A n l d t o m ip dis t e h u a N t s ° II T , a ti sl e til „Site l 7 f t h C v "l s l u u bj n e n c s t i of 1 w. a c s ht t l a rt t • e li d - rates into two pbinls, one of which he called necessaries, and the other luktiries. The necessaries he considered to be the walls of Chtirch-yardi, sexton's salary, which ought to be provided for out of the public purse ; but anything in the shape of an organist he considered as a luxury, and the parties en joying-it ought to pay for it. He mentioned these thing 4 not because he was opposed to music in churches, on the contrary, he thought it a very desirable accompaniment: He had it in his church, and he very cheerfully paid his proportion towards supporting : it • but . what he objected t o was , th at th e persons who derived the benefit of it came there for them to pay for it. There was only one conditiOn on which he would dispense with singing from his own place o f wors hi p, an d t h at con d ition would be to have to go begging for the means of supporting it. It was also remarkable that all those churches which the corpo ration in Liverpool encouraged, should be the only churches which were not flourishing. It seemed from the authority of all time, that the Almighty blasted whatever was protected; in the end it destroyed that interest which it was meant to pro mote; it raised all mankind against it on account of its in justice. He considered this was a matter of principle and not of expediency, and the subject ought not to be treated under the paltry pretext or expediency. In justification of withdraw ing this support from the churches, he might also say that the dispensary, which no one would deny the utility of—it was an institution in which the poor were relieved, of all sects and all parties—and the corporation had thought it right to withhold a subscription towards it, and now how could they with any pro priety be asked to contribute to the gratification of the parties who attended the corporation churches. It would be a disgrace to the town to be told that they were bound to take away their support from the dispensaries and give it to the organists. With regard to the municipal act by which the management of their affairs was given to them, there was no privilege given to any sect or party; and iu case there should be a staples of their funds, there was an express provision . made that it should be employed in the public benefit of the inhabitants, not for the advantage of a party or of a sect, but,for the improvement of the borough at large. With these views, the subject having un dergone much inquiry, he thon g ht th e ti me was now arrived when they should declare what line of conduct they would put , sue, and he should therefore propose for the adoption, of the council the following resolution :—" That the payment of the funds of the corporation on account of 'charges described in the report as not obligatory, be discontinued, and that the future expenditure-be strictly confined to such items as are obligatory and legal, due regard being observed to economy in the pay ments for services performed, and w or k t o b e d one . Th e pro ceedings in Chantery in the endowment cause being still pend ing, renders it unnecessary at present to confider that part of the report which refers to the stipends of the clergy. This re solution to take effect on the let of November next, and a copy of it to be sent to the churchwardens of the churches concerned; by the town-clerk." He thought this extension of time neces sary ; not to turn the organists and choristers off, as they might come upon them for compensation. Mr. Councillor LAWRENCE HEYWORTH rose in support of the principle advocated by Mr. Bolton. He hoped they would be faithful to the charge with which they were entrusted, when he considered that they were the representatives of the whole body of the town—of every denomination of Christians, and of Jews too. What would be the effect on their blinds if a pro posal should be made to grant an addition to the stipends of the ministers of any other sect out of the funds of the C.orporation. Such a proposition would be at once negatived in that morn, and very properly. If this were to be grantedSlietlistsolthiltheY in justice refuse the applications of any other sect,e.,Heasoo sidered th a t no a d vantage cou ld b e d er i ved for religion from it, but on the c on t rary . H e cons id ere d t h at re ligion'was things, to be carried on the principle of free trade. Religion never existed but by divine appointment, and could not be sup ported by compulsory measures. He most cordially agreed in the principle which Mr. Bolton had advanced., Mr. Alderman Bitosyse gave the gentleman who had brought forward this resolution credit for the manner in which they had' acted on this occasion. He was sure they would have acted in' the same manner hail it been to take these items from the Catholics. He rose to .propose an amendment somewhat ferent to that of which he had given notices' , These items were not justifiable by law; but when they looked at the heavy ex penditure for these churches they should take into consideration that a considerable number of pews in these churches were-not rented but left free for the poor burgesses, which would greatly diminish the amount of the receipts.- In the amendment he should propose he should not go the length that it bad been anticipated he intended to go. He should move "That a Com mittee be appointed to take into consideration the subject of the whole church property of the corporation, and to report upon the most desirable management of it; due regard being had to the payments which are obligatory and not obligatory, and to such as are expedient and not expedient, and all with reference to the maintenance and increase of the rents of the seats, as a matter of sound discretion." He was not desirous of perpetuating charges which were unnecessary, but as Conser vators of the Borough property they were placed there to make the most of it. Probably some gentleman would do him the honour of seconding his amendment. Mr. Councillor DUNCAN would cordially second the amend ment proposed by Mr. Brown. He considered that they were entrusted with the care of the churches. To a certain extent they were protected by act of Parliament, and they were bound to maintain those acts to their full extent, and they were also bound to maintain the churches as they now were in all their efficiency. If it were in his power he would add to the stipends of the clergy instead of diminishing them, and most willingly, as he considered they were inadequately paid. The M AYOR.—The :question of the stipends of the clergy was not then under consideration. Mr. Councillor DUNCAN said - he should be veryglad to defer the whole question till the endowment was settled. The Towar-CLERK then read over the resolution and amend ment. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said he had a strong objection to Mr. Brown's amendment, inasmuch as the subject had already undergone, by one committee, the most minute investigation. All that could be done, was done to their hands. (Hear.) Mr. Brown's motion did not propose that such a committee as he wished to have appointed, would be at all final, so that the mat ter would again come before them in the same state, without any additional information. Upon that ground, therefore, lie should obj ec t t o th e a d opt i on of the amendment. Had Mr. Brown proposed that the subject should go back to the Finance Committee, for their final decision— Mr. Alderman BROWN.—I have no objection to that.. Mr. Couneillor BLACKBURN.—Had he proposed that, he should still have objected to that course even; for he did think that they were getting too much into the habit of giving to com mittees the decision of questions which they ought to decide upon themselves. (question He should strongly object to giving ! the decision of this to the Finance Committee, which they themselves ought to decide upon. Six or eight weeks ago it would be remembered that he had had the honour of intro ducing a resolution the tendency of which was to prevent any grants to schools, and the ground of his objection was, that it would be the safest course to keep completely clear of any such expenditure as was not immediately for the benefit of ail parties. That resolution was carried, and be trusted it would form a permanent principle of action for succeeding ages. If it was right and proper to adopt that resolution, then surely it was most decidedly right and proper to keep clear of encouraging any particular sect by th e p ayment o f sums o f money fur th e support of any portion of their establishments. If it was not right to give to the schools agaiust which there was the least objection, still more strongly was it desirable that they should keep themselves clear from any direct encouragement of any denomination of christians by voting sums of money for their support ; and therefore he called on all those who hail supported that resolution, in consistency, to support Mr. Bolton's motion; and he trusted that those gentlemen who had supported that resolution, would now do equal justice to all parties. He thought I hey had committed themselves in that resolution to the sanction ,of a general principle, the application of which to the present case was perfectly clear. There was no opposition to church establishments ! He disclaimed all such feelings • all they claimed, was equ a l justice, and that no favour should' be show n to any one p o rti on more than another. Dissenters were in the habit of supporting their own institutions; they received no support from any one. Let them be consistent, and if they refused to give to those who were more necessitous and less ob. jectionable, let them not give those things which were open to objection, and which might be called luxuries. Whatever dif ference there might be on the propriety of singing and musi c i n places of w ors hip, th ey were b oun d to withhold their funds for these objects. Wh en t h ey h a d gone to t h e i r utmost l ength in j withholding payments from the episcopalians or that sect esta blished by law, yet there still remained permanent charges, se cured by act of parliament, of very large sums of money; so that when they had done their best todo away with this they should still stand in the predicament of giving a very large and perma nent sum for the support of the church. Andhe considered that this injustice would be greatly aggravated to grant these sums, when £l6OO a-year was already settled on the churches by act of parliament. They were su rely not called upon in justice to add to the amount of this grave injustice, for injustice it was, though it was authorised by act of parliament, which act it was their duty to obey. An idea had been thrown out in conversation on this subject, that they should view these churches as a sort of trad ing concern which they were bound to keep up, and that they should make the best of them, and that by paying for music they should get more from the letting of the seats than they would without music. He strongly objected to this view of the subject. He thought it degrading to the churches themselves, and that such a view of the subject was particularly offensive. It seemed to•him to take for granted that the music and singing were more important than the religious instruction. He thought they should do great discredit to the ministers of those churches —that they should pay a very left-handed compliment to the congregations if they proceeded on the supposition that they would deprive themselves of music if they should refuse io pay for it for them. He believed the result would be not to diminish in the slightest degree those services, but to excite individuals to come forward and provide themselves with what was now pro vided'by the public money. He did not think they had reason to apprehend any falling off in the seat rents if they should dis continue paying for the music, for it would be provided by the congregations. They had had smi4 proof lately of the good ef fect of causing persons to exert themselves; when that council had determined to open time schools to the whole community, they did not anticipate that the happy result would be a subscription of £ll,OOO. (Cheers,) Let them. be prepared to withdiaw these payments, acting on this principle, and there would not be the least dedocticui from the efficiency and success of the worship carried on in those places, and...instead of doing them a disservice or treating them with disrespect or evincing any thing like a hostile spirit towards them, they would b e d o i ng essential service in increasing time discharge of those duties, which were the tioblest enjoyieent of which their nature was ca pable. With these views he supported, with all his heart Mr. Bolton's reso l u ti on. , Mr. Councillor EARLE quite agreed in every thing Mr. Blackburn bad said. , He did not see what more they could have by referring the report again to the same committee. They could only report the seine , timings ove r aga i n. H e thought it snore manly for them to declare their sentiments at once. He thought Mr. Bolton's arguments were quite- con clusive, and he, as a churchman, should support s his resolution. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Councillor WALMSLEY, as a member of the established church, begged to say he was quite satisfied that no churchman J would consent to receive any SUM from the Corporation which was considered illegal. He trusted the time was not far distant, when churchmen would refuse to receive any part of the funds which ought to be expended exclusively for the public good. Mr. Councillor EGerifosi SMITH said Mr. Boltoti called on them to do merely what the law required them to do. They could not appropriate any sums which were not from a surplus of the corporation funds. It had frequently been his misfor tune to ask for money, and he had always been answered that there was no surplus 'fend. It appearedlo him that this grant would be throwing away the public money for purposes extra judicial. It appeared to him, if they were to grant these sums, they could not refuse grants to other public congregations be sides the Church of England. There were 60.0(0 Catholics in Liverpool, and St. Patrick's Chapel was considerably in debt. He thought, after making the vote which was contemnplated, they would be "saddled" with a poor excuse to say to these people if they asked for some of the publiC money, "we can give you nothing " It appeared to him that they were called on to do that which the law required them to do. He quite agreed with Mr. Blackburn that it the church was thrown an its own resources it would flourish better than if bolstered up. • Mr. Alderman BnowN in explanation thought there must, : be some mistake on the part o f those 'gentlemen who had adVocated the resolution. They' knew that the churches, where there was good music and comfortable pews, were better attended, and— . , 117 r. Councillor But.'oll3 went and cannot be heard." The MAYOR decided that it was so. He had merely given Mr. Brown an opportunity ofexplanation. Mr. Councillor tl. LAWRENCE thought since the unprofitable state of the corporation churches had been under consideration there was one thing which should not be overlooked, and that was the great number of free seats in those churches. He did not make any allusion to St. George's, where there certainly had been zreat extravagance. In St. Michael's there were 520 free sittings; iu fit. Luke's 260; and similarly ie. the other churches. All those who attended those churches were charged very high rents for their seats, and they should have all that was expected in an established church for it. He did not think that any good would come from wasting arguments upon the council, as he saw the general feeling was against the grant. As a matter of expediency be did not call it "a mean and paltry pretext." He thought expediency ought to be looked to on all occasions. He should certainly support Mr, Brown's amend ment, as it was not worth while making another amendment upon the motion, or he should somewhat have modified the amendment. He would have proposed that those churches where the corporation derived the whole of the funds should be efficiently kept up by. the corporation, and that St. George's should have an organist. What made these churches generally so unproductive was the number of free seats they contained. Mr. Councillor BoLToN said it was the common practice fur the movers of resolutions to reply where amendments were made. In his opinion there was little in the way of argument which required refuting. With regard to the resolution of Mr. 'Brown to support the provision which was made to the four churches, the objection he had to it was, that the singing of these churches was a luxury which the congregations themselves ought to pay for, and therefore be considered that this had nothing whatever to do with the matter of supporting the places of worship. He would go to the very utmost in stretching the law for their accommodation, but this was in effect a gratifica tion for the rich; and it happened most unfortunately for the observation that the church to which the fewest poor went, St. George's, was the most expensive. Mr. Blackburn had very justly observed, that the established church had the advantage of a legal protection, and he would not now iuerease these ad vantages. It seemed to hini most singular, that in all those dis sensions it was always an affair of pocket between thoSe who had privileges already, wishing to retain or increase them at the expense of others. He believed there was nothing further on which he wished to observe. He should call for the decision of the council as the question now stood, firmly persuaded that everything, iu the nature of argument went for his motion. „, The M 4 Y 9,12, after inquiring if any gentleman wished to make any further observations, said before they voted he would take the liberty of 'guying eon word. He did so now as he did nvt like to interrupt Mr. Blackburn whilst he was speaking. It— Mr. Councillor BOLTON (interrupting)—" I have replied to vhat,has been said on this subject, and I-conceive that no one Berson has any right to say any thing further upon it." The MAYOR--" I am entitled to make the observations I am about to make. On previous"— Mr. Councillor BOLTON (persisting)—" Before I replied you had the right to, address the council. Really after I have spoken, to address the council is contrary, to all rule both in parliament and out of it, as far as I am acquainted." The Maros__" I have only to observe that I have hitherto done as I was about to do on the present occasion. I have no wish to take the slightest advantage; but if it is the opinion .of the council that I ouglit.not to address them, I shall not. lam sorry that I have lost the opportunity." BOLTON again interrupted. The MAYOR (sitting down)—".l am the last person to give the council an opportunity of calling me to order. Go to the vote. (Loud cries from all parts of the room of 'No, no, no; speak,') No, I shall not; vote. (To the Town-clerk.) Go on." The div]sion was then taken, ;when .there. appeared, fur the arriendinent, Messrs. H. Holmes, Mellor, Birch, Woollwright H. Lawrence, Sanders, Duncan, Brown, and the Mayor. Against the amentirneut, Messrs. S. Hope, Thornhill, Sheil Harvey, E. Smith, '['homely, Rawson, L. Heyworth, Walins iev, Bolton, Rushton, H. H °ruby, itathbone, Preston, J Cawrence, Aikin, Lassel, T. Holt, Earl, Moreeroft, Blackburn, Coglan, Alison, J. Cropper, Tayleur, Beaus, Blain, 0. Hey. worth, Moon, Freme, Barclay, Stuart, Leathoni, T. Smith Jones, and Benu. Against the amendment, 36; for the amendment, 9 ; majority. 27, submit that this is new aigu- Absent, Messrs. J. Holmes, Horsfall, ,Logan, M'Gregor, Barton, Bright, Maxwell, Carson, Brockleban k, Reskell; E. Cropper, Leigh, G. Holt, Jordan, .Bullet', Robinson, Booth, and J. Hornbv. The original motion was then put by the members rising from their seats. The motion was then declared carried. sLAUGHTER-1-14A2SES. The MAYOR said the next subject was the report of the sub committee of finance on slaughter-houses. The TOWN Cusex then read the report of the sub-committee of finance, appointed to take the necessary proceedings for car rying the removal of the slaughter-houses into effect with expe dition. The report set forth that the committee had received a letter from Mrs. Dodd, the occupier of a slaughter-house in Cable-street, under an unexpired lease front which she received a small income. The report further detailed that an act 26th • George 3rd, for the improvement of the borough and suprres sion of nuisances, after reciting that the slaughtering or killing of beasts and cattle in the public parts of the town, was found to he exceedingly noisome and offensive, for remedy thereof the Common Council were authorised to purchase such lands within the liberties of the town, as they should think fit for the pur pose, and of building slaughter-houses thereon ; and it was enacted that henceforth no beast should be killed or di eased else where in the town, under the penalty of 20s for each offence. By the Ist George dth (1520,) these provisions are recognised, and regulation for the existing slaughter-houses provided till the new erections are completed. It appeared that there were in the public parts of the old borough 54. slaughter-houses, many of which were common nuisances, and in the opinion of the committee, the health and comfort of the the inhabitant had for years past required their removal to some more convenient si tuation. This subject having been taken up by the late coun cil, a lease of land near Brownlow-hill was, under their direction, granted to Mr. J. Clifford Etches, on which new slaughter-houses were to be erected, conformably with the act of parliament. Tinder this lease, buildings fur the slaughter of cattle, to a very considerable extent, had been erected by Mr. Etches, and were now ready for use. By the terms of the arrangement of the late council withMr Etches, the lease was granted for 7.5 years, al a nominal rent and without any fine, upon a surrender of old terms for lives and years. The late council also entered into a covenant with Mr. I.tches, that they would carry into effect the powers vested in them by 26th George 3rd, fur preventing the slaughter of cattle in any other part of the town but the new slaughter houses, and into a further covenant for guaranteeing to him a rent of £6 14s per cent. on the total amount of money that he might expend, not exceeding £17,500. The whole of this amount was represented by Mr. Etches to have been ex pended, consequently the corporate estate was responsible to him, under the pledge of the late council, for a guaranteed rent of £1137 10s.. With the corporate estate'so pledged, the execu tive had devolved on the present council without giving them any power of variation. [The regulations for the government of the new slaughter-houses were here embodied in the report.] By the lease, Mr. Etches 'was under covenant not to charge greater rents than would amount in gross to £1330. The new slanghter-houses appeared to the sub-committee to have been erected upon a plan well calculated for preventing the killing and dressing of the beasts from being any nuisance in the neighbourhood, being amply provided with sewers, water, &c. The sub-committee expressed regret that it should hate fallen upon the council to execute duties under arrangements over which they have no control, and that the removal must be at tended with loss in several cases they lamented also that some scheme had not been originally adopted which would have given the trade a general interest in the erections, and afforded cam peiAation, in particular cases of hardship, at the expense of the general undertaking. Mr. Alderman BROWN begged to move that the proceedings of the finance committ ee on t hi s subject be approved, and that it be then referred back to the sub-committee, for the purpose of carrying it into execution. The motion was seconded by Mr. Stuart. Mr. Coundillor JAMES LAWRENCE should like to know whether all slaughter-houses were to be removed ? The MAvott said the committee would be able to answer that question. Mr. Councillor EARLE thought that every slaughter-house in the town, should be declared a nuisance. Mr. Councillor J. LAWRENCE made the enquiry because he had lived near some slaughter-houses for 20 years, which were no nuisances. He thought that the committee, some of whom were present, could have answered his question. The Towist-CLERK submitted that the consideration of this subject required a great deal of deliberation before an answer could be given by the committee, and it would b e b e t ter if t h at committee were not to commit themselves by giving an incon siderate answer. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN understood that this general abattoir was to supersede all others in the town. The TOWN-CLERK.—" The report states that all others will be under the penalty of £2O if continuing, and informed against ; and it further stated that the fine would be enforced. Mr. Councillor Btecti then moved that the report be printed, which was seconded by Mr. Holmes. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN thought it should be advertised in the newspapers. Mr. Alderman LEATHOM objected, on the ground of expense; there were 13 papers in the town, and the expense would be be very great. _ Mr. - Councillor H. LA WRENCH thought it should be handed to the gentlemen of the Press to make what use they thought proper. :the Report was then handed to the reporters, and it will be seen above that we have inserted it. DISCUSSIONS OF THE COUNCIL. Some discussion then occurred on the 'notice of a motion by - Mr. RATHBONR that no new business should be. discussed after three o'clock at the council meetings. It was decided that it should not be in the power of any member to Stop any discus sion going on when three o'clock arrived, : but that after that hour no new business should be entered into. WATCH RATE, COUNTY RATE, LIGHTING RATE, AND SCAYENGERING RATE. The Town-clerk read the report of the watch committee to the following effect. That the next month being the annual period for laying the watch rate in this borough, such rate will now have to be raised in like manner as a county rate, and accord ingly to be levied by the overseers of the parish of 'Liverpool, and of the townships comprised in the new,part of the borough, under the assessments of the council, the warrant of the Mayor, and the warrants ;hereupon of a corporate officer to be appointed to act as a high constable. For the procuration of evidence on which to ground the assessment, the committee submitted that a committee should be appointed, with ftill power to call for all requisite returns from the several overseers, &c. and that the Mayor should be the chairman of such committee, with power to grant all necessary precepts, &c. and to affix to them the corporate seal, required by law. The committee finding much c omplication and' consequent misunderstanding as to the seve ral rates, county, watch, lighting, and scavengering rates, sub mitted the following explanation. The county rate upon the parish of Liverpool, had been up wards of £1.1,U00 per annum, upon the average of the last seven years. It was levied for all county purposes, as, gaol, the &c. Until the municipal act, it was a charge parish, a c h l e ai sr and , punishment of prisoners, courts of justice, and was collected by the overseers upon the assessment, besides which, the parish contributed to relieved. The whole of this rate upon Liverpool, t pucn 6 al e arrooion e nuc i tee t hil r n: a ea: costs of the borough prosecutions, from which it was_ the municipal act to be borne by the corporation, ei t t v h a e s r ninowpaly ments directly for the prosecution, maintenance, and punish. meat of offenders, and the expense of gaols and coroners charges, or in payment of the balances to the county treasurer, for general county purposes. The corporation had also in re spect of the new parts of the borough, to bear their proportionate obligation to the coun t y rate. The watch r a t e b y t h e municipal act, was limited to th e. average yearly sum expend e d f or the nightly watch in Liv er . pool for the last seven years. That average amount was r th a e te ne,v under parts the of moliteni borough.cilac t, £8,634 14s. lid., an d t h e rate for i t was 4d. in the pou n d. Th is s w o a s a r as extendedregiaur de liked themanner parish to of Liverpool, this new rate was nothing more than the old watch rate, laid since 21st Geo. 2d, by the late commissioners of watch, scavengers, and lamps, and both the old and new parts of the borough had for their contribution on the scale of the old nightly watch, . g ibe , benefit o,f a watch by day and by night, at i the expense of the corporate estate. The lighting rate was the old rate continued upon the potash . . of .Livorpool, as it was levied by the late commissioners, and extended, in like manner, to the new parts. The rate is 4d. in the pound. scavengers' rate was the old rate continued. There was no authority to extend this rate to the new parts of the boroUgh, which, fur the present, remain in this . respect udder the general highway act. On the question being put by the Mayor, the aboie report was adopted. The TOWN-CLERK read a report from the committee on the Boiough Court and Court of Requests, which set forth, that a letter had been received from Mr. Timothy Parkinson, sergeant at-mace, dated 17th September. 1836, Which requested that the subject of his bail should be taken into further consider ation, as he deemed it too large, and begged that it might be re duced, arid, in case this could not be complied with, he begged to be informed what amount of compensation he might expect in case of dismissal. To this the Town-clerk had written in re ply, that no alteration could be made in the amount of bail required. but Mr. Parkinsson was requested to attend the com mittee on the following day—and further, that the latter could not state what sum Mr. Parkinson might get if he claimed compensation. When the comniittee met on the following day, a letter wus received from Mr. Parkinson, stating that he could not procure the large amount of b a il requ i re d , an d that his difficulty had been increased by the lamented death of Mr. Foster, to whin he should have applied, and who had offered to be his security fur his former situation, but that he was ready and willing to give the security which the oh corporation had taken (£1,500.) Under these circumstances, the committee recommended, as a less amount of security could not be taken, that they should proceed to the appointment of a sergeant. Mr. 11. LAWRENCE suggested that the report be referred back to the committee, to see if some other arrangement could not yet be come to. The TOWN-CLERK said they had offered to take from Mr. Parkinson four sureties of £5OO each, but this had been refused. Mr. LAWRENCE said that was just what he was about to recommend. Mr. \VALMSLEY said any further arrangement with the ser geant-at-mace was impossible. The report was then adopted on the motion of Mr. Rathbone, seconded by Mr.. H. Law rence. The TowN CLERIC announced that a petition had been pre sented to the Treasury from Mr. Parlour, on the subject of his claim for Compensation. This had been forwarded by the Treasnry to the Mayor, t o th e p ur p ose th at h e may. ask the Council why they refuse compensation to Mr. Parlour. The subject was referred to the committee on compensations, that they may report to the Council. The MAYOR said in reference to what had fallen from Mr. Blackburn on the subject of referring to committees, and which he had formerly attempted to reply to, he begged to say that it had but seldom happened that they had granted full powers to any committee. They always had a due regard for their own dignity by directing that reports should be made back to them selves. o crock ouncil then adjourned t o F r id ay, t h e 30 t h i nst. at - eleven ' THE BOTANIC GARDEN EXHIBITION. The second public exhibition of flowers and fruits at the Bo tanic Garden, and the last of the season, was held on Wednesday last, The weather, as on the previous exhibitiou, was extremely favourable, being a tine, clear, bright September day, bracing with its freshness. As on the previous occasiou, tents were erected along the top of the garden besides the greenhouses, forming a long promenade; down the centre ran a broad table, on which were placed the various flowers and fruits exhibited. A table at the upper end of the marquee was devoted to flowers, another below to fruits, and one on the extreme left to vegeta bles. burnediatels in front of this down the garden the foun tain played, exhibiting some very pretty devices : one in which an apple was poised on the top of a jet of water had a very pleasing effect. To the right of this a tent for refreshments was erected, tastefully hung round with ivy, and to the left Stubbs' military band was stationed enlivening the scene with many beautiful airs. The garden since the last exhibition has taai proved considerably in appearance, the shrubs looking bolder and the beds more thickly planted, taking away much from the naked appearance before presented. The unfinished part at the bottom of the garden is also now completed, and added much to the general appearance. Where betbre was ruin and chaos there is now a pool of water, in the centre having au arti liicial rock which is converted into a fountain throwing up jets of water, which f a ll s aroun d i t, an d surround i ng the pool is a mount of artificial rock. This forms an ornamental finish to that end of the garden, which before looked barren and unfi nished. The company was not so numerous as on the former occasion, which gave rather an air of flatness to the exhibi tion. Though numerous groups were parading about, yet the garden did not present any thing like the crowded and ani mated appearance which it did on the opening. The flower show also bore no comparison to the last; many of the plants before exhibited were again shown, and though there were sever ral rare specimens, .yet generally the plants looked mean. This may be attributed in a great measure to the time of the year. The greenhouses, as before, were kept closed for fear of injury to the plants. Of the fruit which was exhibited, however, we cannot speak too highly; it was beautiful beyond description; we never saw any superior to it; almost every kind of fruit was • there in high perfection. The pines, grapes, melons, plums, apples, pears, &c. &c. were spread out in rich and luxu rious profusion. To give an outline of the exhibition—we ob served at the top of the flower table the same group of the cactaa trtbe as were before exhibited, from the hothouse of C. Tayleur, Esq., one of which, a very rare plant, tha Serius Senilis, having the appearauce of an old man's grey wig, won the prize. Below this was a very fine plant of the plantain tribe, the pro perty of the garden, the Strelitzea ()rata. On the table were several baskets of flowers, plants, and bouquets of great beauty. A prize plant, the . property of Thomas Littledale, Esq., pre sented also a striking appearance on the table, the Yucca Phila mentosa ; it is a very tall plant, bearing a bold white flower. An excellent specimen of the fern tribe, the Stay's Horn Fern, the property of Wm. •Sznith, Esq., obtained that prize. A new species of Tropceolum exhibited, from Valparaiso, South Ameri ca, is also deserving of notice, and obtained an extra prize ; the property of Mr. 1 o mli ns . Th e B a l sams were very indifferent. The finest plant in the exhibition was an Eugenia Aqua, of the Myrtle tribe. It is a magnificent plant, and th e first that has produced fruit in England; it bore three apples, - of a fig shape, and of a deep and fine crimson colour. It is an East Indian plant, and the property of the garden. Below this were one or two fine specimens of Geraniums, the property of Thomas Little dale, Esq. At the bottom of the table was a splendid plant, the Asclepias Solicifolia, bearing a very singular dower resembli ng small green bladders. Near the bottom of the table was a very fine plant, the Antura Arborea, bearing a very white large bell shaped flower, the propertyofMrs.Cropper. Near this were two or three very beautiful specimens of Coxcombs, the property of N. Walker, Esq., the president. At the bottom was a fungus plant of the mushroom tribe, a very rare specimen, the property of Charles Horsfall, Esq., called the Petra • Funguria, the stone fungus, or mushroom stone, from the western coast of Africa. A g igantic specimen of the Crilll4l4 Amabile, the property of Charles Horsfall, Esq., ended this table. On the next table a basket of dahlia bouquets, the property of Mrs. Preston, was very ornamental. Below this the display of dahlias was very splendid, their variegated appearance having a pretty effect. Amongst the fruit was a beautiful globe pine, raised by but water, the property of Mrs. Crossley, which obtained the first prize. A very beautiful basket of fruit, containing figs, pears, grapes, magnum bonum plums, and peaches, the property of Thomas Littledale, Esq., obtained the £5 prize given by the president. A basket of fruit, the property of Mr. Walker, also attracted a good deal of attention. A basket of fruit, containing some very tine grapes and some very beautiful pears, the property of Mrs. Cropper, obtained an extra prize. A basket of black grapes, the property of Mrs. Cropper, was also very fine. There was also a bunch of green grapes, weighing nearly 51bs., which was very beautiful. Below this was a collection of apples and pears from the nursery of Mr. Whalley, of the South Crescent, which attracted much attention, there being almost every description of apple, and of the finest specimens. Below this the vegetables were arranged, and were very fine, especially the celery. The company began to disperse about four o'clock, as the af ternoon drew in cold. Subjoined we give a list of the prizes awarded : The best six Calceolarias—Messrs. Whalley. Pan of Carnations, consisting of seven blooms, viz.:— Perfection, Memnon, Rowtord, Bellerophon, Lady Hood, Prince George, and Princess Victoria—Mr. W, Thomson; of Everton. • • Six Coxcombs—J. N. Walker, Esq. Ferns—W. Smith, Esq., of Fulwood. Grapes, (Lombardy,)—Mrs. Cropper. Second prize of Grapes (Muscat)—Mrs. Preston. The best Pan of Panseys—Charles Ilorsfall, Esq. Melon (Egyptian Green Flesh)—C. Tayleur, Esq. Orchidere plant—W. Smith, Esq. Six Pelargoniums—T. Littledale, Esq. Pine—Mrs. Crossley. Succulent Plant—C. Tayleur, Esq. Six Stove or Greenhouse Plants—Mrs. Cropper. Ditto (Second Prize)—Messrs. Whalley. Single Stove or Greenhouse Plant—C, Horsfall, Esq. Ditto (Second Prize)—Mrs. Cropper. Shrubbery Plant—Messrs. Whalley. Herbaceous Plant—T. Littledale, Esq, Pan of Six Dahlias—Mr. T. Fletcher. Ditto (Second Prize)—Mr. T. Walker. Three Heads of Celery—Mr. T. Walker. - Basket of Vegtahles, consisting of celery, parsnips, onions, carrots, French beans, turnips, cauliflowers, red beet, parsley, vegetable marrow, savoys, cucum bers, and cabbage—Mr. T. Walker. Second best basket of Vegetables, cauliflowers, onions, celery, cabbage, parsnips, F renc h b eans, l ettuce, p eas , currot ,, o parsley—W. Smith, Esq. Best basket of cut flowers—J. N. Walker, Esq. Second ditto—H. W. Preston, Esq. Best basket of plants—T. Littledale, Esq. Second ditto—J . N. Walker, Esq. The President's gift of £5 Littledale, 89., for the following f' 1 , cherries, nectarine; figs, strawberries, pears, currants, tipples, was award_euid .t s o :t_hegr rapes,(le n l e t r ie n i f )l l: s . and plumbs. or Mushroom St one—C, Exalts PRIZES.—Petr a nifla,iiiin, eEasrciil.l, T C l os t p k ti m: t l o u w i e r n i pl. B o wers—Mrs. Preston. ruit, grapes, figs, apples, currants, a pricots, melons, and lemons—W. Smith. q. Ba li' sa. of Fruit, pines, melons, grapes, nee. tarines, pears, and apples—Charles 'Tay. o leur, Esq. Basket f Fruit, grape; pears, and apples— _ Mrs. Cropper. Ministers are, it is is said, a nx i ous to induce his Majesty to consen t to an immediate diss o l u ti on o f Parliament. The re action which taking place in public opinion, and the reports w hi c h have reached the m f rom all quarters, of the state of the Conservative registry all over the country for the ensuing year, a ppalled th em. has They would fain take advantage of the agitation they have contrived to excite on the subject of peer age reform, and make that supp l y t h e watch-word with which Parliamentary reform supplied them on a former occasion. The great Conservati ve meet i ngs in Lancashire, Kent, Bucks, Essex, and Suirolk, and the result of nearly all the recent elec tions have struck th em w i t h consternation and dismay: Let the dissolution take place when it may, they will gain uo influ ence by th e c h ange. If they await the result of next year' s registration they will cut a still more sorry figure.—Surrey Standard. According to Mr. O'Connell, the Whigs have now no hope but in throwing themselves into the arms of the Radicals; an act of desperation which we shituld not be at all suprised to see them adopt. In fact, by moderate men of all parties, hot even excluding their own, the poor Whigs are universally scouted and disclaimed; and they appear, therefore, to have no alter native left but to give up the contest altogether, or form the alliance which their dictator points out to them. He, it. is true, sweetens the draught and gilds the pill, by telling them it will " popularize " their Administration. Bit what a precious species of popularity must that he which discards the Sense and property of a country, for an alliance with Popery in Ireland and horsy sedition at home. As a forlorn hope the Whigs may attempt it; but furlorn Hopes generally end in the Sacrifice of those Who resort to them: tWMM i . • .ka~. ---r - -T-_ ~ __ FUNERAL OF THE LATE 'momAs FOSTER, k. On Wednesday morning the melancholy duty of interring flit ' mortal remains of the late Thomas Fost-r, Esq., brought ever from Calais, by Mr. Lloyd. was cornpieteth In a late publica tion, we noticed the sudden death of 4%1s respected, and dis , ; tinguished gentleman ; au occtirence which east a gloom ou the inhabitants of this town, and which has by all parties been re gretted. As was anticipated, great numbers of the inhabitantio expressed a wish to pay a last tribute of respect to his memory; by attending the funeral or sending their carriages; but it a a's intimated to them that the relatives of Mr. Foster were antiouA to carry out his last expressed wish, " let ine be buried quietly in Walton Church vard, - and that there should be le little die= play as possible. fu furtherance of this wish. Mears. Edward Haworth, and Co., of Bold-street, the undertakers, had instruc tions that the funeral should be as simple, and unostentattous; as it could be made. In consequence„ the funeral procesSion, which left W oo lt on about half-past nine o' c lo c k, c on s ist e d merely of the hearse, which was drawn by four horses, wiling to the weight of the leaden coffin, and three Mourning coaches; filled by the deceased's near relations, and followed by his mo ther's private carriage. On the mournful party arriving at Walton Church, they were met by a large concourse of persons, amounting to about 400, many of whom were the leading gentry, clergy, and tner chants of Liverpool, whose attendance prorated by respect for his private and public virtues was infinitely more impressivie and must have been more soothing to the feelings of the friendi and relatives of the deceased than could have been the most ostentatious parade of the trappings of woe. Amongst the numerous mourners were nearly all the members of the old cor poration, a great number of the legal profession of Liverpool, as well as other gentlemen of the town. We observed : James Aspinall, Esq., (the late mayor,) Nicholas Robinson, Esq., Sir Thomas Brancker, Rev. Rector Campbell, Rev. J. B. Monk, Lieut.-Colonel St. George, John Deane Case, Esq.t Rev. Thomas Bold, Rev. T. G. Leigh, Roy. Thomas ' Halton, John Shaw L e i g h, E sq ., A m b ros e Lace Esq., I'. Cars on ; Esq., Thomas T o bi n , E sq ., N. D. Bold, Esq., T. 0. Bold, Esq., C. S. Parker, Esq., H. S. Sandbach, Esq., T. B. Hors fall, Esq. ; Win. Gregson, Esq., Chas. Lawrence, Daniel Mason, Mr. Richard Dawson, J. A Tinne, Esq., Samuel Turner, Esq., H. H. Statham, Esq., Mr. Chas. Lowe, Mr. C. Falcon, Mr. R. H. Frank, Mr. Julia AskeW, John Stewart, Esq., Mr. J o h n S u dlow, M r. J o h n Weightinan, W. P. Bushby, Esq., Raymond W. Houghton, Esq., Peter Wright, Esq., Hr. Thos. Kaye, Mr. John P enn i ng t on , M r . R o b ert Clay, Mr. Joh n Hand, Mr. Amos, Mr. Henry Moss, Mr. John Sandars, &c. &c. &c. The chief mourners were Messrs. John, William„Taines, and Richard Foster, the brothers of the deceased; his brothers-in= law, Messrs. Halton and Lloyd, and the brother-in-law of Mrs. Foster. The pall-bearers were Mr. Foster's nephews, the Rev. Mr. Hull, Mr. Troutbeck, and Mr. \Fawn. On reaching the gates of the churchyard the spectators formed an avenue to the church door, ilirtink.Which the mouru fUl- assemblage'passed and entered the church, Mr. Clarke, the organist, playing a solemn dirget The funeral Service Was then read in the most solemn and impressive Manlier by the Rev. Jonathan Brooks, the senior rector of Liverpool; after which, amid the lamentations and heartfelt sorrow of his bereaved re- latives and friends, the remains of our late distinguished towns. man were committed to the tothta. We do not doubt tied hail not the public duties of the present Mayor required his attend-' twee at a councihneeting, sitting at the time, but he Would have done honour to his feelings as a gentieman, and a public man, by attending the funeral, to show his respect for the worth and memory of the late Town-clerk. TO THE EDITOR OP THR LIVERPOOL STIND.4RD. Slit,—l read with much .pleasure in your paper-of Tuesday the admirable description cif popery, as a voreity, contrasted with genuine christianity, received under the name of protes tantism; and I beg to inform you and your numerous readers that the passage is an extract from the Rev. Hugh M`Neile's sermon on the character of the church of Rome, which he has ,thrown down as the " first blow" of the controversy with Mr. Maguire.—l am, &c., LIVERPOOL TEACHERS' SOCIETY. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL 5T.4ND. , 11:0. Ste t —As the Secretary of the Liverpool Teachers' Book ciety I feel it my duty to rebut the erroneous statements vow: cerning it, which appeared in your paper of yesterday;and I di) so from a uelief that you have beets misled by exparte state ments. In the first place it is stated that that society is composed eat= elusively of dissenters,—this is not correct, for, on looking civer. the list of its members, I find that the majority are alsii inem bars of the establishment. In the second place, it is stated that the society, whose interests you advocate, is honoured with the patronage of our worthy rectors,—this, also, must he incorrect, for I hold a letter from one of them in which he expr6ssly avows his determination not to interfere with it, either directly or in- . directly. Now, sir, your informant must have been aware that his state ments to you were untrue, and as they may (if uncontradicted) operate to the prejudice of the reverend gentleman above ab;. luded to, I considered it my duty to •trouble you with this ex planation, in order that you might. have an opportunity or re. tracting them.—l am, R:t!., JAMES STAPLES. .3, Spring-street, 21.4 t September, 1836. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL sTANDAnn. Stit,—A paragraph, from a correspondent, relative to the Liverpool Teacher's Society appeaared in the Mail of Satin day last. Perhaps you will allow a person who belonged to it for some time to say a few words on the subject. The society, in its origin, was intended to embrace the mas tern of all the free schools in Liverpool; but in the outset it was discovered that the society '(Which was merely a reading one) was conducted in such a manner that very many respectable teachers of church schools objected most decidedly to join it: The consequence was, that those masters of church schools wild had connected themselves with it found themselves in a minority. Several works were introduced into the society of a nature whittt had no reference to education; indeed it was never contem plated that such books should be pnrchased with money devoted to educational purposes alone. I might mention IlevritQa " History of Priestcruft," Pelham," and saute other of 1.311`1 wer's novels, together with periodicals avoedly advocating Sociniau principles ! At length it was determined, by a few individuals, to en- deavour to form a society, on the prgiciples of the Established Church, and in which, of course, all the masters of the. Church Schools in Liverpool could conscientiously unite. This itas been accomplished, and a society has been instituted, tinder; the patronage of the Rev. the Rectors, and the Church of England School Society, I could say much more with regard to the obseevetioni of Alie correspondent of the Mail, hut I content myself with assertikig i that no " - plans of t u iti on, " h ave beau- communicated at tie meeting, and that no " theories on education," have boon cussed, and further, that .the experiment of bringing together the teachers of different schools, by means of such a society, has totally failed.—l am, sir, yours, Btc. VERITAS. P.S.—I may as well mention 3 That the masters of only seven Church Schools were connected with the former society ; whereas, there are' upwards of. tw e nty scho o ls a tt ac h e d to t h e Established Church iu Liverpool: [We beg to refer our readers to an advertisement which ap pears in another column.—E.o. STA N DA Et D.] In further illustration of this subject, we append the follow= ing note from a correspondent "The Secretary of the Liverpool Teachers' Book Society; having heard, that for reasons which have already appeared in the public pape►s, the Church Schoolmasters were about to ►n stitute another Reading Society, he intmediateLy wrote to Mr: Campbell, requesting him to use h►s influence in putting it down. Ti►e rev. gentleman rtAlused to do so, by stating that he would not interfere either directly or indirectly. The Church Schoolmaster? Reading Society has received. the patronage and support of the Church of England School Committee, of ►which the Rev. Rectors are members; hence the patronage of the Rectors of Liverpool: B." LIVERPOOL MUSICAL FESTIVAL. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. i t I . t wNasotilnnn_ egviesrynootwle,tsalrodutho! people arc making!" but Stir,—As the time appointed for o ur festival is fast approach:- thro . ugh the medium of your paper, ing, I take the opportunity, o b f t, ' offering m a al f i e c t, h v of the Liverpool Festival, or if it • scarce a syllable is s poken f'l .' mentioned, ',Oh, it will be a complete al ure ! ' Why should es r emarkst er Festival. 'Why should the Manchester people (to use a it be a failure ? " What preparations the Manchester vulgarism) so completely take the shine out o f its ? Because they have moreirit in everything they d o . T here was a time spirit w h e n Liverpool yielded the palm to no One city in the spirit of her undertakings. And why should that character be lost to her? Why should the Liverpool Festival be sneered at, and reported a ".complete failure," three or four months hcfore She time? The Manchester people have taken out , year, it is true, and have been tryink, in every possible. tray, to feitdo us in their preparations, liarticularly those for the Fancy Ball. Now, let them inclose all the principal streets iu the town, and I defy them to have any rooms equal in magnificence to our Town-hall. But still, there wants a novelty. The halls are always held there, and there is no change t they are always titled -up ia the same manner—the Exchange -room connected by a narrow passage. Now we know that nothing charms an English public so much as novelty—in fact, nothing will do withoUt it. I would therefore suggest the fullowingt Let the whole area of the e xc h ange be rooted in with a waterproof awning, or any thing most convenient, and the flaor, of course, boarded. The outside of . the Town-hall brilliantly ilitiminated, and Nelson's Monument hung round with lamps. Al: ores may be formed 3 • and, altogether, a most splendid effect may be produced. What could be• more beautiful, than looking out of the Town-hall windows into the area, and seeing it lighted up in that manner. The effect would be grand in the extreme. It may seem au arduous undertaking, but the Manchester people have been doing a good deal more and will find it difficult to fori n an y t hi ng h a lf so grand. If E 1,600 were expended, I am confident that £l,OOO would be Made. That one sentence, " What prepar a t ions the Liverpool people are making I" would bring numbers over for the sake of variety. 1 wish, Sir, that this may be thought of, and there is nothing I should like more, than to see my sugges, lions carried into execution. Our festival will he the laSt, and let it be a grand winding up.—l remain, sir, your obedient CIVIS. Servant, SEA WATER TO THE- METROPOLTS.—The directors of the Thames Haven Dock and Railway Company have lately had a plan submitted to them, whereby the means, which will be at their disposal, when the railroad shall have been carried into effect, will enable them to convey to London a great itody of sea water. The features of the plan are extremely simple, and as such ensure the certainty of susses. They consist chiefly of pipes being laid parallel with the railway, and as the ground will be nearly level, it will require a very small power to trans mit to the extreme end of the line a sufficient quantity of water to supply all the demands which Will consequently spring up in the metropolis. In the year 182.5, the idea of conveying sea if carried intd water to London was considered of s s t u a ffi te c o ie f ut lt, i mportance to call for the existence of a joint stock company, but %m. 0.. to • . the elrc planu ut staouacses neglected .tvllic h i to roie‘thi i o a s t e e l i t froslottoi sWet,d.htt,hielaaviiiteo"xuptiecvreiamernieocneutd: the e ff ects of s alt-water bathing will appreciate the advantages w hi c h this plan, or any other to the same place w i thin reach of all ailway o nly to be obtained at a great ]llan bathing establishments. It willpla adva urnqing effect, will create „o o ne :• c e nu r ini t )i h na e er z e; e x isting i j u o g . by 'the Thames Haven lt . th e present theiropri parties the luxuries which are now Compan.y, We thin)t fire of our feeling convinced e fi i c i e t I i nY o t f i I t n h e e directors are called upon to the coast. lnde.; that it inttfeffect, lb cOnseqbence its s he th l . ri t sh th E e ' titageS td be derived by Mill the metropolis wi n ll ., b o y f plan,is,acurdi theis . said inhabitants l be d 5, n o z r to Chief Baron J o y, means be kteatly bettefite& gerously ill at a visit to Naples, which city he had reached on his way to C onstantinople. We regret to hear that Dudley: In many families inmate ,-- -Ifiddmnitotr " h" proved fatal to More Lb7;4.°13 : 6 . x il e c: e lt q tr ue o r f , The Town Council of Salisb ury .senger. l ed resolved fast Week to var.'? on their proceedings with doors. and th• to . for the public press be admitted: ' 4( "Ptli.l°l Ala rea, ch'o- en )or.(l will s in ,cbe be pro who, roils nts bat ieir U 3 ust lug ted I In - I tly of t..rn hat Lot by ;e, ry of