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Mr. SANDS hoped the Council would not recommend the principle contained in the motion. No additional theatres were wanted in Liverpool. Mr. BUSH ELL said the patent was not for an additional theatre, but only for the Liver. The MAYOR observed that the prayer of the petition was not for a patent for any theatre in particular.; there was no place named. Mr. BUSHELL had asked Mr. Raymond whether it was in tended to increase the number of theatres, and he replied in the negative. • Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said there ought to be a free trade in theatres. Mr. H ARBORD was happy to hear that neither the Theatre Royal nor the Liver answered; that was the reason the patent was asked for. Theatres were the bane of society, and that Council should not encourage them. Mr. JORDAN.—We want to make them better. Mr. BIRKETT asked whether in the petition there was any mention directly or indirectly of the Liver Theatre , The MAYOR.—No. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said this was a direct attack upon the property of the other theatre, and he should oppose it. Mr. BUSHELL said if the patent were not intended fur the Liver he should withdraw his seconding of the motion. Mr. Raymond had informed him it was. SIR J. WALMSLEY replied that there was no doubt it would be granted to the Liver. Mr. PRIESTLEY said he should vote against the motion. Th e MAYOR asked how many gentlemen of the council had signed the petition ? Sir J. WALMSLEY replied 22 ; and that the patent would b e granted to.three _gentlemen who would be representatives of the public interests. The TOWN-CLERK said the prayer of the petition was ex pressly that the patent might be granted to those gentlemen ior n trust andti on behalf o f t h e town of Liverpool, and in trust f its charies. Mr. J. SMITH asked whether the charities would gain anything by it? The TOWN-CLERK replied that those were the words. Mr. SANDS wished to know what was the meaning of those words ? Mr. Bustmu, said they meant that when the patent should be granted Mr. Raymond should undertake to subscribe a certain sum to the charities of the town. The TOWN-CLERK observed that that would be incon sistent with the trust. Mr. SH cit, then seconded the motion. The council divided, when there appeared for the motion, Messrs. Quayle, Isaac Holmes, Thornhill, Case, Aikin, Woollright, Bright, Yates, Robinson, Morecroft, Kilshaw, J. Smith, M'Kee, Jordan, Mather, J. Hornby, J. bolt, Sheil, Evans, Barclay, Earle, Benn, Moon, Sir Joshua Walmsley, and the Mtyor. Against the motion, Messrs. Sandbach, Sands, Priestley, Toulinin, J. Law rence , Bi r k ett, B us h e ll , P ar k er, G . H. Lawrence, Platt, and Harbord. For the motion 25, against it . ll ; majority 14. Mr. Blackburn was elected a member of the Observatory . Committee, an d M r . E vans a mem b er o f th e Health c mittce. Mr. ISAAC Hor.mEs moved that a gratuity of £lO be pre sented to Miss Robinson, of the corporation schools. Mr. PRIESTLEY seconded the motion. Sir J. WALMSTEY and other members opposed it, and eventually it was withdrawn. The council then adjourned. MEETING OF THE DOCK COMMITTEE The Dock Committee held their weekly meeting yesterday. There were present—Messrs. Berm, (chairman,) Horsfall, T. Holt, Smith, Tobin, Bulley, Moon, Sands, and Barclay. The Sub-committee of Works recommended that a steam engine of 14 horse-power, made by Messrs. Boulton and Watt, and which was now ready, should be purchased and erected in the South Dock-yard.—Ordered, The tender of Messrs . Foster and Stewart, to complete the buildings in the South Dock 7 yard, was accepted on the recommendation of the Sub-committee of Wopks. The same sub-committee recommended the sill at the south end of George's Dock passage to be lowered, and reverse gates placed there during the time of the . .alterations of Canning and Salthouse Docks.—Ordered. On the recomme n d a ti on o f th e H ar b our -M asters ' Sub committee, the two buoys at the entrance to Victoria Channel were ordered to be removed one hundred fathoms to the eastward in consequence of the bar having gone fur ther out in that direction, and notices of the alteration were ordered to be given to tke pilots and others.—Mr. T. - Holt explained that the bar had extended a hundred yards in the deep water, and that formerly there was only 11 feet but now there was 12 feet water at the bar. NEGLIGENCE AT THE ROCK LIGHTHOUSE. The SECRETARY stated that Curwen and Hughes, two of the keepers of the Rock Lighthouse, were in attendance to receive the reprimand of the committee for their negligence in allowing the light to remain stationary for half an hour, on the 4th ult., and falsifying the log to make it correspond with the regulations. The secretary added, that a further complaint had been brought against Curwen, at the meeting of the Sub-committee, on Monday. The Marine Surveyor reported that between five and six o'clock, on Sunday, the 4th instant, he visited the lighthouse and found only one keeper there ; the other keeper, whose turn it was to be on duty, was Curwen, was out, and some strangers were there who had not the necessary order for their admission. When called before the Sub-committee, Curwen stated that lie was absent for little more than half an hour, • that he went to the fort to ask permission from the master gunner to paint an oil cloth there, and that he immediately returned. The other man, however, said he did not immediately return, but went to the public-house for the newspaper, and that he was absent for three quarters of an hour. The committee then deliberated for some time upon the treatment of Curwen's case, that of Hughes' being already decided upon. • Curwen was first called in, and The CHAIRMAN addressing him, said the committee re gretted exceedingly to find that his conduct latterly had been unlike what it ought to be : it had been in direct opposition to the regulations by which he should have been guided, and which he must clearly have understood, because he had en deavoured to make tile entries in the log conformable with those proceedings, although at the same time he knew he was falsifying them. On a former occasion, when he was brought before them, the sub-committee thought fit merely to reprimand him, in the hope that he would behave better. He (the chairman) did not think the sub-committee went sufficiently far in the punishment, because he conceived that such conduct called for something more ; but he was now greatly surprised and astonished, that he (Curwen) should again have been guilty of disoheying the regulations—that he should, knowing there must be at all times two men in the Light-house, have left it as lie had on Sunday last, with only one person there. Besides, when the investigation took place, he had stated that which was not true—that although he went first to the fort contrary to the regulations, he had said lie went no further, yet it came out that he went after wards to a public-house, where he got a newspaper. It thus appeared that he had remained on shore a considerable time, when he ought not to have been on shore at all. The committee were greatly displeased at this, because they looked to him as the head of the Lighthouse, and paid him £lO a-year more than the other men. They had expected from him that he would have adhered to the regulations, but instead of that he had connived at what was wrong, and instructed, or at least permitted, the others to falsify the journals. This was unbecoming his situation, and the committee could not possibly overlook suc h glaring ' misconduct, particularly as this was, the second instance of it. Their determination, therefore, was to fine him .1;5 ; and if they found that his future conduct did not become strictly regular, he would be removed altogether. Hughes was then called i n and reprimanded by the Chair man in equally severe terms. REPAIR OF WATERLOO -ROAD. The SECRETARY read the following letter, which he had received from the clerk to the commissioners for paving and sewering, in reply to on e a dd ressed to him last Thursday, calling attention to the state of the pavement of Waterloo road : Harrington Chambers, North John-street, sth July, 1841. Dear Sir,—l am in the receipt of your letter of this day's d a te, relative to the state of the pavement in Waterloo-road, which shall be laid before the commissioners at their meet ing on Thursday neat. In the mean time I may as well draw your attentio n t o t h e two or three communications made to the Dock Committee. relative to the portion of the street belonging to the Dock Trust, as to which the Dock Committee have not yet come to any determination. This, probably, may be the cause of the p resent state of the street co mplained of by you. EDWARD G. DEANE. Daniel Mason, Esq., Dock-office. The CHAIRMAN said that the repair of Bath -street had no connection whatever with the state of Waterloo-road, and that the commissioners had nothing to do with it. The SuRvEYOR described the condition of Waterloo -road to be very dangerous when it was traversed by heavily-laden vehicles. It was full of holes, and was at a great distance from Bath-street. A MEMBER enquired what was the dispute as to Bath street? , . . The CHAIRMAN replied that a part of the yard of Prince's Dock had been given up to the public, and it now formed a portion of Bath-street. The question lay between the corporation and the dock trust, and it was which was bound to repair the road, After some further discussion, it appeared that the Paving Commissioners held their meeting to-day, at the same time as the Dock Committee; the further consideration of the letter was, therefore, adjourned till next week. A surgeon's certificate was read, stating that Mr. Hodgson, the North Harbour Master, was confined to his room with a rheumatic complaint, and that, at least, a fortnight must elapse before his recovery might be expected. An order was consequently made, that in all cases of urgency, the dock masters in that division should refer to Mr. Askew, the South Harbour Master. TO . . The CHAIRMAN GRANT stated MR that WAINWRIGHT last week Mr. Evans gave notice he should propose a grant of a sum of money to Mr. Wainwright, of the Liverpool office, in London, in consider ation of his services to the dock estate. Mr. HORSFALL, in the absence of Mr. Evans, said that Mr. Wainwright's services had been required, and no doubt would be again by this trust. Two separate grants had been made to him, the latest of which was made in 1836. One duty which he performed was of a permanent character — namely, that of presenting the annual accounts to the House of Com mons . The practice previously had been to send up the secretary for that purpose, so that in this respect there was a saving. He did not, however, mean that the grant should be of an annual character. After some explanations, and a brief discussion, a motion was unanimously carried that the sum . of 1100 be gr an t e d to Mr. Wainwright in considerationot his past s erv i ces, and the sum of £5O for his services in the ensuing year, commencing from the Ist July. The committee then separated. • THE GIRAFFES IN BOLD-STREET.—These noble and elegant animals are attracting crowds of persons to inspect them. They have been greatly admired. As the giraffes are intended to be exhibited in Liverpool only a short time, an early visit should be made by those who wish to partake of a curious and remarkable sight. An error occurred in our last paper respecting them, to the effect that one of them was 36 feet high—the absurdity of this statement must have been obvious—we should have said 13 feet. UNWHOLESOME BUTCHERS' MEAT.—The magistrates, we are glad to say, are determined to put down, as far as possible, the shameful practice of exposing for sale unwhole some meat, by which the poor, in particular, are frequently imposed upon. and the public health endangered. Yesterday, at the Police•court, Mr. George Holden, inspector of mar kets for the borough, exhibited informations against two individuals for this offence, both of w h om were fied. The first against whom a summons was served, but who did not appear, was Joseph Stubbs, who keeps a standing in St. Martin's Market, Scotland -road. The inspector found, on the 26th ultimo, in a slaughter-house, in Cable-street, an entire carcass of diseased beef, weighing 4801b5., the pro perty of Stubbs, and which he was preparing to sell. He had last month been fined 20s. and costs for a similar offence, and was now mulcted in the sum of 40s. and costs. John Challinor, who stands in St. John's Market, was next called but did not answer. On the 3d of the present month 271bs. of mutton was found on his stall which was unfit for human food. This was his first offence, and he was fined 10s. and costs. As we have recently seen some very indifferent look ing meat in the several msrkets, we trust that the in spector will exert his usual vigilance to detect similar offenders, by whom a great temptation is held out to small dealers by the present high prices, ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING OF THE SHIP. MASTERS' ASSOCIATION. On Monday last the first annual general meeting of this excellent A ssoc i at i on, was held at the Rooms of the esta blishment in Old Hall-street, and was most respectably attended. THOMAS MURRAY GLADSTONE, Esq. was called to the chair, and opened the business of the meeting in a neat and most appropriate address. It was not, he said, without a feeling of great diffidence that he accepted the honour conferred upon him of presiding upon the occasion ; for, though the difficulties which the society had to encounter, in the first instance, had in a great measure been overcome, much of its future prosperity depended upon the proceedings of that day, and that unanimity of purpose amongst all the members, without which they could not realize all the advan tages they had in view. The society was instituted, more especially, for the benefit of a large and useful body of indi viduals—a class for whose welfare he had ever entertained the warmest wishes, and who ought to unite heart and hand in the consolidation of such an institution. He regretted that the attendance was not more numerous ; but, at the same time, when the report was read—as drawn up by Mr. Rowett, a gen tleman who had from the first devoted his valuable services to the association—all who heard it would feel assured that they had before them the gratifying prospect of its ere long becoming one of the finest and most advantageous institu tions in the town. It was truly a pleasure to him to be a member, although he was not a nautical man; for he delighted to see intelligent men drawn together for the purpose of mutual information and improvement; and when in addition to a well ordered News-room, they also saw the seeds sown for a Museum and a Library, he could not doubt, but the efforts of those gentlemen who supported the association, would finally be crowned with the greatest success. (Cheers.) The Report would be read by the Master of the Rooms, and several resolutions would be submitted to them, for the better regulating and extending the benefits of the society, by gentlemen who would more particularly explain to them the proposed amendments. Mr. Moss then read the following REPORT. The committee of the Liverpool Shipmasters' Association have much satisfaction in presenting their first annual report. In resigning into your hands the responsible charge with which you were pleased to entrust them at the formation of the institution, they will as briefly as possible render an ac count of the means used in their endeavours to promote its interests and the results by which their efforts have been followed. Your committee, in the discharge of their duties, have considerately reviewed the condition and claims of the sea faring population ; and although, at the formation of the institution, many important motives were assigned for uni ting s.,ipmasters into one body, they have reasons still more urgent for such object, and a deeper conviction than ever of its importance. The difficulties they have had to contend with in making the objects of the institution generally known, have been overcome in the short space of one year to an extent never anticipated; but to accomplish this primary object, all the others have been in some degree delayed Your committee have made a careful selection of local and provincial daily and weekly papers and periodicals, as well for the accommodation of resident as for nautical members ; and the latter are usually supplied with papers when on the point of leaving the port. The committee have endeavoured to render the rooms commodious and interesting, as well as useful, with charts, maps, and books of reference suitable not only to the mari ner, but to the resident. In addition to this, the nautical members have from time to time kindly presented the in stitution with various valuable curiosities, already amounting to a considerable collection, and which, no doubt, will be soon sufficiently augmented to constitute a museum. One of the objects of the institution was to disseminate amongst shipmasters useful and valuable information, which has had your committee's earnest attention. Much valuable nautical information has been communicated to the public from time to time, derived from members of the association. An interesting and valuable course of lectures has been de- .. livered on " the Law of Storms" ; a course of lectures on " Maritime Law and General and Particular Average" ; and a course of lectures on " Mental Astronomy" ; the whole of which were received with much interest and approbation by both nautical and resident members. In this report, which your committee hope will not escape the notice of any individual interested in the welfare of sea men and the mercantile marine generally, they would call upon the merchants and manufacturers of Manchester, Bir mingham, and other neighbouring towns, to support, or at least encourage in its commencement, an institution with which they are, though indirectly, nevertheless intimately connected. Another subject upon which your committee have been much engaged, has been the devising a means by which the pernicious and abandoned practices of seamen may be ar rested ; and, although their plans are not yet matured, they would remind the committee to be this day chosen, that they are bound to leave no stone unturned until the mode of shipping, lodging, and protecting seamen from the destruc tive habits which they are now by a certain class of men drawn into, be changed. A most powerful auxiliary to the attainment of this desired end will shortly be brought into operation by the Sailors' Home ; and inasmuch as union is strength, your committee strongly recommend to their suc cessors in office the adoption of every proper means to amal gamate the exertions of that valuable institution with those of the Shipmasters' Association. With a view to make the institution more generally useful in its operations, your committee have established corre spondents in various parts of the world, and are happy to say that, wherever it is known, much interest is taken in its progress and welfare. It will, no doubt, be well known to you that there has existed for many years, in this port, an institution called the Marine Society. Your committee have much pleasure in stating that, at a general meeting of that society, held on the 13th February last, the master of the rooms of this associa tion (Mr. S. Moss) was appointed secretary of that society. This, together with the re-modelling of the rules, which is now in progress, will tend to facilitate the admi ss io n of ship masters to the benefits of that valuable institution, the ample funds of which hold out a great inducement to shipmasters to become members, and are, indeed, a premium towards their joining it. Your committee have been appointed the committee of management of the Liverpool. Branch of the Shipwrecked Mariners' and Fisherme n ' s Society, by the London board. The annual subscription to it is only 2s. 6d. only, by which small sums large funds have been accumulated, and a very great amount of suffering has been relieved : we, therefore, take this opportunity of calling upon others, as well as the members of this association, to contribute their mite to an object so laudable. uring the past year your committee's attention has been drawn to an effort made by her Majesty's government to in troduce a bill into parliament, seriously affecting the interests of the poor claimants upon the Merchant Seamen's fund of this and other outports. Your committee's efforts were im mediately directed to prevent, if possible, a measure so inju rious to the widows and orphans of the poor sailor. The worshipful the Mayor kindly responded to their call for a public meeting on the subject, which took place at the Ses sions-house May 17th last. At that meeting strong resolutions were unanimously carried in opposition to the proposed al terations, and an influential deputation was appointed, to confer with her Majesty's ministers on the subject ; but the dissolution of parliament soon followed, and the gentlemen appointed have not yet entered upon their mission. One o' the original objects of the Shipmasters' Association was to have a coffee-room attached to it, and rooms have been taken contiguous to the reading-room, for that purpose, and arrangements are now in progress which, your committee trust, wilitend to the convenience and comfort of the mem Before entering into the financial state of the institution, your committee would wish to remark to shipmasters, that in the Shipmasters' Association they have a powerful friend in time of need; for they know not how soon they may be exposed to unjust and overbearing treatment from either British or Foreign functionaries abroad. They know not how soon they may be engaged in endeavouring to obtain that redress for which, as individual shipowners or masters, they might apply in vain ; but an institution such as this . .. .. . would at once secure at least attention, if not redress, from whatever quarter it might be demanded. It, therefore, be hoves that respectable body to seek to extend the power and influence of this institution, by enlisting their brother mas- ters into its ranks whenever they have an opportunity. Your committee are happy to be enabled to state that Lord Sandon, Sir Joshua Walmsley, and many other gentlemen have been liberal donors to the association, and it is hoped that this example will be generally and generously followed. Masters of vessels visiting distant parts of the world have the power of greatly benefitting the institution, by bringing home . . curiosities of nature and art, many of which, though sepa rately of small intrinsic value, become, when collected, of great importance to the philosopher and naturalist; and, from the gratifying experience of the past, your committee doubt not of the kind and considerate exertions, for the fu ture, on the part of its nautical members. With respect to the financial position of the association, your committee have the pleasure of stating that the sub scription list has increased in numbers to a most satisfactory and promising extent ; and although, from the inevitable expenses attendant upon the formation of a new establish ment, liabilities have accumulated, yet, in consequence of the care and attention which has been devoted to the economical management of all necessary outlay, the amount is compara tively trifling, and, from the unanimous and cordial manner in which, at the meeting of the 18th May, you so liberally raised the rate of subscription, they cannot for a moment doubt your aid to its liquidation. As regards the future, your committee have every reason to expect that the income will at least equal the expenditure. Experience having proved that the rules for appointing officers, as it now stands, rather impedes than assists the pro gress of the asscciation, inasmuch as fifteen out of twenty one of the members of the general committee must be nautical members. The nature of their avocations com pelling them to be so frequently absent, and their return _ . being so uncertain, it is proposed for your consideration, that the whole of the committee shall be elected f r o m the general body of the subscribers, and that, in addition to any nautical members thus elected, ten masters at the time being in port shall be admissible to all general committees, and competent to be appointed on all sub-committees. Your committee having now touched on all such matters as they have deemed necessary and interesting, beg to resign their trust into your bands, in the sincere hope that they may have given the satisfaction they have so earnestly de sired, and with the assurance that whatever portion of them may be re-chosen by you to assist in the duties of the forth coming year, such portion will in nowise relax in their exer tions to place the Shipmasters' Association in that elevated position which its character and objects so richly merit (Signed) WILLIAM ROWETT, Chairman of the Committee. T. ALSTON, Esq. moved that the report just read, be re. ceived, and printed. It detailed the present condition and prospects of the association so clearly and satisfactorily, that it would be superfluous in him to add anything on the sub ject. _ - Captain TREWAVES seconded the resolution, which was put from the chair, and unanimously carried. Captain RAMSAY proposed the second resolution (for which see the advertisement), and which involved an altera tion in the original Third Rule of the association,with a view to its more efficient government, by extending the eligibility of members as officers. In addition to some slight amend ments as regarded superior officers, it proposed " that ten nautical members, at the time being in port, should be ad missible to all general committees, with power to vote, and eligible to be appointed on all sub-committees." This was seconded by R. KENNAN, Esq. The CHAIRMAY, in putting the resolution, remarked that it was of importance as regarded the regulating of the asso ciation. In all new societies it was difficult, if not impossi ble, so to frame rules as to meet all circumstances that might arise. In the present instance a difficulty had arisen to find the materials of a permanent committee, and, con sequently, to carry on the business of th e association with that spirit and promptitude which it demanded—so many of the nautical members being frequently, from the nature of their avoca tion, spread all over the world. He trusted the proposed alteration would have a most beneficial effect, and tend, moreover, to secure the best services of nautical gentlemen in its management. (Cheers.) in behalf of the association, by giving th em a grea t er i n terest The resolution was then put, and carried unanimously. Captain HUNT moved the third resolution, involving the omission of a clause in rule 9, which rule required that those members of the committe, at the general annual meeting, should be elected "in the room of those vacating by rota tion, or of those who had ceased to be members since the ast annual meeting,"—which last words (within inverted commas) it was proposed to erase. J. U. GREY, Esq. seconded the resolution. The CHAIRMAN explained that the proposed omission was rendered necessary by the concurrence of the meeting with the last resolution. The motion peing put was accordingly carried. S. W. OLDHAM, Esq., R.N., then moved, and Captain BUTTER. seconded, a vote of thanks to Captain Hunt and Mr. Purnell, for the able and interesting lectures they had delivered to the association,—which was carried unanimously, and with marked applause. The next resolution, proposing the officers and committee of the association, was moved by H. G. SUTTON, Esq., and seconded by Cautain HUTCHINSON. The CHAIRMAN said the association was much indebted to Lord Sandon and Sir Joshua Walmsley fur the readiness they had always evinced to forward the objects of the society, and also to Mr. Rowett, whose liberality and exertions had, he repeated, been great in their behalf. He then put the resolution, which was carried unanimously. Mr. ROWETT then proposed, in appropriate terms, a vote of thanks to Lord Sandon, Sir Joshua Walmsley, and others. He took the occasion to pay a high compliment also to their present chairman, who was connected with the Liverpool Marine Society, the advantages of which he was desirous of extending to the shipmasters. _ The resolution was seconded by W. J. Tomlinson, Esq. The CHAIRMAN said the resolution required no comment from him, as regarded any of the parties referred to. The association was much indebted to Lord Sandon and Sir Joshua for the handsome donations they had made. The library and museum, with which so auspicious a beginning had been made, sufficiently testified the merits of the other gentlemen referred to ; and he hoped that when members saw the books, ornaments, and curiosities already collected, it would stimulate them to make valuable additions. The motion was then put and carried unanimously. The CHAIRMAN then declared the business of the meeting concluded, and rose ; when Mr. RONVETT proposed, in terms of high eulogium, a vote of thanks to the gentleman who had just left the chair. T. M. GLADSTONE, Esq., in returning thanks, said that it might appear presumptuous in him to preside on such an occasion, when there were so many gentlemen present more competent to the task than himself. (No, no.) But he had only one guiding object in view in connecting himself with the association, and that was—to do as much as he could for the useful body of men whom he saw around him. lie was re joiced that an institution had been formed in which indi viduals, frequently separated in various parts of the world, might meet again, hold out the right hand of fellowship to each other, and reciprocate the valuable information they had respectively acquired ;—where they might unite not only to have their mutual interests protected, if they were attacked either at home or abroad, but to carry out the privileges of their profession, in a manner that would redound to their advantage and that of those with whom they were connected. By this means. in place of spending their time in sensual in dulgence, they would elevate themselves in the scale of moral and intellectual worth, and assume that dignified position in society to which they were so well entitled. (Cheers.) The meeting then separated. [For resolutions see advertisement.] GENERAL ELECTION. MEMBERS RETURNED TO THE NEW PARLIAMENT. ENGLAND AND WALES. Conservative members returned up to last night .. 234 Liberal ditto Returns not yet received Total members for England and Wales . • - 500 SCOTLAND. Conservative members returned up to last night Liberal ditto Returns not yet received 3O Total members for Scotland - 53 IRELAND. Conservative members returned up to last night lO Liberal ditto Returns not yet received B3 Total members for Ireland - 105 Total members of the House of Commons .... 658 Total conservatives returned Total liberals returned.. Total conservative ga i ns up t o l as t night 5O Liberal ditto Total conservative ga i n 17 vo t es , equ i va l ent to 34 on l7 a division (as compared with the last parliament). ENGLAND AND WALES CITIES AND BOROUGHS. Names of Places. Names of Members. Continued from our last Wakefield Cardigan Pryse COUNTIES. Palmer Con. Rad 169 183 Berkshire Viscount Barrington.... 1 Pusey Brecknockshire...... Wood Cambridgeshire Yorke 1 Eaton .. Allix .. Carnarvonshire Pennant Denbighshire.. Wynne. Bagot Derbyshire (North).. Cavendish Evans Devonshire (North).. Xja-n—tl Devonshire (S'outh).. Buller Lord Courtenay 1 Lord Ashley Sturt Bankes Essex (North) Tyrell . Jorsetshire R - ound Gloucestershire (East)Codrington Charteis Gloucestershire(West)Berkeley H ale Hampshire (South) .. Fleming C0mpt0n...... Hoskins Baskerville Bailey .. Isle of Wight Holmes Kent (East) Knatchbull Filmer Lord Marsham Lancashire (North).. Lord Stanley Herefordshire Kent (West) Patten Lancashire (South).. Lord F. Egerton Wilbraham 1 Byng Wood Merionethshire Richards Monmouthshire .... Lord G. Somerset 1 Middlesex liontgorneryshire Norfolk Morgan --- Wynn Barge Chute Northumb. (South).. Bell Ogle.. Nottinghams. (North) Knight. Holdsworth.... Nottinghams. (South) Earl of Lincoln 1i011e5t0n...... Lord Norreys.. Harcourt .. Henley Shropshire (North).. Hill Oxfordshire Gore . . Shropshire (South) .. Earl of Darlington. Clive , Staffordshire (North).Russell Alderley Staffordshire (South).Visct. Ingestre . _ Col. Anson. Suffolk (West) . Waddington Sussex (West) .. Col. Wyndham Surrey (West) Denison Trotter.. Warwickshire (North)Dpgdale . ... Wilmot . Warwickshire (South)Mordaunt Shirley.. Wiltshire (South).... Herbert Bennett Worcestershire(West)Major-Gen. Lygon Knight SCOTLAND. Aberdeen. Bannerman........ Ayr County. Kelburne Ayr Boroughs. Dumfries County.... Johnstone Elgin Boroughs ..... Hay Glasgow . Dennistoun Oswald . Johnston Ferguson. Ramsay. Ellice. IRELAND. Randon. Beresford Jackson. Layard Kirk Stock..... Pigot . Litton Redington Northland . Sheil . C01e.... Blake. J. O'Connell Watson . Meynell Ferguson Gore. Howard. Kilmarnock. Kirkaldy.: Midlothian.. St: Andrew's, Armagh Athlone Bandon Carlow. Carrickfergus Cashel Clonmel Coleraine Dundalk Dungannon . Dungarvon. Enniskillen Galway.... Kilkenny... Kinsale .... Lisburne.... Londonderry New Ross .. Yougbal.... CORK CITY.—FIRST DAY'S POLL Murphy (R) Callaghan (R) . Chatterton (C) Morris (C) NEWRY.—FIRST DAY'S POLL. Lord Newry (C).... Doyle (R). 349 316 339 Majority for the Conservative FlRE.—Last night, about twenty minutes past nine, an alarm of fire in Kitchen-street was passed by the police to the Fire Station, bottom of Temple-street, and horses being in readiness, two engines and four water carts, with a body of the fire-police and their superintendent, Mr. Hewitt, were immediately despatched, and reached the spot in a very few minutes. Happily the fire, though for some time alarming from the fierceness and height of the flames, was found to be only in the flue of a dwelling-house, No. 32, inhabited by a working man named James Connelly. The engines were consequently not put in action, and the conflagration, such as it was, soon expended itself, without any damage, with the exception of some slight injury to the flue. Between 20 and 30 of the firemen were on the ground in readiness had their services been required. As it was the engines, &c., with those connected with them, were back at the Station-house at five mi nutes b efore ten o'clock, having been absent only half an hour. In our advertising columns will be found at length the report of the Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock Railway, to the gratifyin g contents of which we call the attention of all persons, whether th e y h ave an i nterest i n th e undertaking or not. Captain Huish, who has hitherto filled the responsible duties of secretary t o t h e company, is a b out t o re t ire f rom those services which a re appreciated so highly by the direc toss as to elicit a sub s t ant i al mark of t h e i r a ppro va l, th e nature of which will be found in the report. We are inform ed that the Grand Ju nc ti on company have engage d th e abilities and information of Captain Huish as the secretary of their railway, and we congratulate the directors on the appointment of a gentleman so well qualified in every respect to give them atisfaction in the promotion of the ter the undertaking. SECOND EDITION. Standard Office, Eleven o'clock FURTHER RETURNS. 1230 1196 248 SOUTH ESSEX Bramston (C) Palmer (C) Alston (R) SOUTH NORTHAMPTONSHIRE.—HALF-PAST 11 Cartwright (C) Knightley (C) . Euston (R) .. BUCKINGHAMSHIRE.—TWELVE O'CLOOK. Young (C). Du Pre (C) Murray (C) . Lee (R) Vane (R) H E R TFORDSHIRE.—H ALF-PAST TWELVE. Ryder (C) .. . .. Grimstone (C), Smith (C). .... 801 Alston (R) ......................... . 617 NORTH CHESHIRE.—T HURSDAY , F oux o'CLocx. FIRST DAY __— Egerton (C) Legh (C) Stanley (R) Macclesfield ...... 652 630 690 Stockport ........ 545 521 545 Mottram ........ 207 191 557 Runcorn ....366 365 143 Knutsford ..... ... 870 823 166 2640 2530 2101 YORKSHIRE (WEST RIDING.) Wortley (C) Denison (C) Morpeth (R) 7299 Milton (R) ABERDEEN COUNTY. Captain W. Gordon (C.) returned without opposition. DUBLIN.—CLOSE OF THIRD DAY. West (C) Grogan (C) O'Connell (R). Hutton (R) Mr. O'Connell's minority 239. Mr. O'Connell started for Carlow;at two o'clock yesterday BELFAST—SECOND DAY. Tennant (C) Johnson (C) .. Ross (R) Belfast (R). CORK—SECOND DAY. Chatterton (C) Murphy (R) Callaghan (R) MALLOW—FiRsT DAY. Longfield (C) Norrey (R).. NEWRY.—SECOND DAY. Viscount Newry (C.) 313 Sir J. Doyle (R).. Majority for the Conservative THE ASSIZES The following circular has been addressed by the Pro- thonotary to the various practising solicitors in this connty— Prothonotary's Office, Preston, 6th July, 1841. The next assizes will commence at Lancaster on Tuesday, the 10th August, and at Liverpool on Saturday, the 14th August. The records in causes to be tried at Lancaster, and at issue on or before Monday, the 26th of July, should be ordered on that day ; and in those to be tried at Liverpool, and at issue on or before Friday, the 30th of July, should be ordered on that day. The last days for making up issues in time for trial at the next assizes will be In causes to be tried at Lancaster, Saturday, the 31st of July. In causes to be tried at Liverpool, Thursday, the sth of August, on which days the records must be ordered. Eight exclusive days' notice of trial in all personal actions must be given for the next assizes in causes at issue in time for trial at the last assizes. The jury process for the trial of causes at Lancaster, will be issued at Preston, on Tuesday morning, the 10th of Au gust ; and for the trial of causes at Liverpool, on Saturday morning, the 14th of August. liule day before the assizes, Thursday, the 15th of July ustant. Rule day after the assizes, Thursday, the 16th of Septem ber next. Declarations against defendants in gaol on writs of capias must be filed on or before Thursday, the 12th of August next. In pursuance of the General Rule of Court of September Assizes, 1824, the causes intended to be tried at Liverpool will be entered in the following order :- Ist List.—West Derby Hundred. 2d List.—Salford Hundred. The business of the public offices will be transacted at Preston during the assizes. MEETINGS or CREDITORS FOR LIVERPOOL. JUNE. 1101.711 g, William Charles Henry Parry, (2nd) Clarendon Rooms, 2 9, Elizabeth Freer, (2nd) Ditto, z 9, Thomas Taylor, ,2nd) 12, Telford and Arundell, (proof & final div.) Court of Bankruptcy, London, 10 12, Charles Lowe, (Ist) 12, Samuel Dickinson Leatham, (proof & div.) Ditto, 1 12, Henry Brownrigg, (Ist). . Ditto, 1 12, Marshall and Rogers, (Ist) ..... 13, John Hewitt, (proof) . , Ditto, 11 13, Charles Lawton, (Ist) . Ditto, 12 13, John Bald, (proof and div•)•• • • ...... Ditto, 1 13, Benjamin Williams, (2nd) . Ditto, 1 13, Samuel Hamnett, (Ist). . Ditto, 2 14, Thomas Hampton, (proof and div.) Ditto, 12 14, Samuel Peace Ward. Ditto, 1 15, John Taylor, (proof and div.) ....... : Ditto, 12 16, James Mackie, (2nd) Ditto, 12 16, John Marshall', (2nd) . Ditto, 1 VALUE OF THE CONSERVATIVE PRESS. Conservatives have done nothing to counterwork the dis seminators of falsehood, and whatever improvement in the public mind has taken place is due solely to the labours of the unpaid (we exult to say unpaid) Conservative press—that press which it is the fashion with too many Conservatives to despise and insult. But we have our reward from those for whom we labour —fro m th e peop l e we h ave our rewar d, no t only in the adoption of our principles, but in the use of our arguments. _ , 7 ' I," said a Westminster elector, the other day, to a friend whom he was canvassing for Captain Rous, " I was as much against the corn -law as anybody could be until I saw something in a paper which set me thinking. It was this : the paper asks—to follow the track of a sovereign paid for foreign corn, and try, if I could, to bring it back to Westminster, and then to follow the track of another sovereign, paid for home corn, and see where it would come to. Well, I did so. I found that some of the sovereigns sent for foreign corn came back, sure enough, to Manchester, but that they went back again for more corn, with many more, but less always came back than went out, while a farthing never found its way to this city, or into the hands of any tradesmen. Then I hunted the other sovereign through fifty hands, all, of course, having a turn out of it, by the way—while I fairly earthed him up at last in my own till to help me in paying rent, rates, and taxes." We give our own old argument— we are sure greatly improved by the version of the West minster elector—and we give it because we think in that version it is irresistable. liesek the sovereign, we say ; this is a lesson in political economy obvious to every one's under standing, and worth all that ever' has been put into book. Track the sovereign, and you will find that any trade which involves the purchase of provisions abroad must be an un profitable trade to the mass of the nation, a losing trade in its progress, and a ruinous trade in the end. It is not, however, for the purpose of asserting the claims of the press, or in order to reproach the Conservative aris tocracy, that we allude to these things. Our purpose is to answer the threats of the ministerial writers, who say, that although no doubt Sir Robert Peel will have a majority in the next House of Commons, he will not be able to carry on the government against a minority supported by the country. Now, we assert, that the country is with the Conservatives. and day by day, as the truth shall become known, will more ardently array itself with the Conservatives. It has been charged against what is called the Tory party, that they hold in contempt the understandings of the people; and as regards a few individuals, the charge may not be altogether groundless; but as concerns the Conservative press, that press proves its respect for the understanding of the people by always addressing temperate argument in stead of unmeaning cant and boisterous ribaldry to the pub lic ear; and whatever conservatives of higher pretensions may do (those of the highest do not despise the people, as Sir Robert Peel's speeches tell), the conservative press will proceed in the course that it has hitherto pursued; and why not with the same happy effect? We have seen what has been done already, but a battle is not won by a single blow. It is enough that every blow tells, and the election will show that the blows hitherto delivered have not been delivered in vain. It is proof that even among the humblest classes of this country the vapour of ignorance is dissipating fast—that wherever the ministerial candidates want ruffians, as they have employed them in too many places, they are compelled to resort to the ser v i ces o f im ported savages, as at Rochdale.—Standard. Mr. Joseph Middleton, the teacher an d l ecturer, we per ceive, intends to confine the sphere of his use f u l an d valuable exertions entirely to Liverpool. His arrangements appear to us unexceptionable, and, to quote himself, to " be made with a view to render the establishment effective and re spectable." THEATRE -ROYAL. — M iss Vande nhoff takes her benefit to-night, when Knowles' "Love will be p er f ormed. Si'. BARNABAS' CHURCH.—This place of worship will be opened, as will be seen fro m an a dvertisement, on Sunday week, when two sermons will be preached by th e R ev. Thos. Nolan, the minister of the church. To many of oar readers the name of this gentleman is familiar, and we anticipate the best results to the district in which Mr. Nolan is placed, from his ministerial faithfulness and assiduity. The memory of his name will be long and affectionately remembered by the inhabitants of Stockport, and we are greatly mistaken it the protestants of Liverpool do not find him their constant and zealous advocate, his congregation their faithful and conside rate teacher, and the poor their s ympathising and liberal friend. On Sunday last, the Rev. Charles Henry Burton, 8.A., took leave of his friends at Staly-bridge, from which curacy he is removing to that of St. Mar tin - in -the-Fields, Liver pool. After th e serm on be was request e d to v i sit the school, where the teachers and scholars waited to present their be- Loved pastor with a testimony of their regard and esteem. —Manchester Chronicle. THE VE RY L ATEST .—" Don't You wish y ou may ge t it?" as Chubb's lock said to the shop-boy when he wanted to open the cash-box. DEATH OF MADAME CATALANI.—Letters received in town from Milan announce the death of thi s grea t m i s t res s of song. Sh e ex pi re d at her casino, on the banks of Lake 'Como, on Sunday, the 20th ult., in the 61st year of her age. Lieut. Winniett, of the 83d, was drowned in the Thames, Upper Canada, on the 14th of April. It is supposed that he - was attempting to ford the river. SIDMOUTH.—EXTRAORDINARY AND INTERESTING PHE NOMENON.—This delightful and fashionable watering-place - was visited by a curious convulsion of nature on Friday, 'the 11th ultimo, about seven in the evening, resembling ;much the far-famed landslip of I.xmouth. It first commenced :about half-past six by a rumbling nois e , resem b ling a di s - Itant peal of thunder, and at seven o'clock part of the Peak JHill was observed to glide majestically towards the ocean, carrying everything before it, and forming a rock or pillar mut of the sea (70 feet high and 175 in circumference,) oppo site to the town, and a quarter of a mile from the shore. our Sidnionth correspondent finds that it is covered with ftx isils, and is of a hard iron-like substance. So singular at, oo currence has attracted the attention of every one in the to vn. and hundreds are flocking from the immediate neigh bq urbood to gain a eight of ita re4u l o.—Doriet Chronicle. NORTH LANCASHIRE ELECTION , 1 On Tuesday last the nomination of candidates for the Northern Division of this counts , took place at Lancaster, when Lord Stanley and J. Wilson Patten, Esq., were duly elected without the slightest opposition. After the addresses of the movers and seconders, and an excellent s peech from Mr. Patten, L or d Stanley delivered the following sentiments, which we give at considerable length, as containing an ad mirable reply to almost every sophistry which can be advanced by the brawlers for free trade. After expressing his disap pointment that no opponent was brought forward to discuss the various measures propounded by government, (a step which was threatened by the notorious Acland,) his lordship proceeded at follows :—Pree trade serves very well to talk of out of doors by the supporters of the government ; but in parliament, and in the face of the country, no member of the administration, however glad they may have been to avail themselves of the temporary advantage of the clap-trap argu ment which is ventured to be put forward for their mersures, as a question of free trade ; but the principle of the whole of those three measures is this—not to reduce, or very imma terially to reduce, the price of the articles consumed, but to substitute to the consumer the produce of foreign countries for the produce of the home grower, and of your colonial fellow-countrymen • and in my judgm en t th a t course i s nei ther consistent with sound policy, nor consistent wish the greatness of this empire, —ruinous to the agricultural interests at home,—of most doubtful advantage to the master manu facturers themselves ; but to the labourer, whether agricul tural or manufacturing —to the manufacturing labourer of little value, to the agricultural labourer of positive loss. Now, I know that upon these questions it is very dry to enter into discussions of this kind, and I will spare you any discussion upon the question of sugar ; because the principle of the other two propositions is very much the same principle, and I wish to deal with the illustration of the principle, and not more than I can help with the details of the measures themselues. I will only say, in passing, with respect to the reduction in the price, you will observe it was stated by the government themselves, by Lord John Russell, in my hearing, that the calculation he made of the reduction in the price of sugar to the consumers of this country,—which he yet ventured to put forward in my hearing as a complete panacea for all the evils, the distress, and all the poverty in which the labour ing classes in the manufacturing districts were plunged,— he ventured to put forward as a cure for all these evils, a re duction upon the price of sugar, which he himself estimated at the amount of about 2s. per cwt., that is to say, about six-tenths of a farthing per lb weight of sugar. [Some one made a suggestion to hi s lordship.] Six-tenths of a penny, then ; Is. fid. a cwt., or something of that kind. I'll tell what would be the result of that. It would be a very good thing for the grocers and the retail dealers ; because they would still compel their customers to pay the whole of the present prices; but to the consumer who buys by the half pound or the pound. there would be no benefit. There cer tainly would be a little profit to the dealer, but to the con sumer—unless the reduction in the prices of articles is to a very considerable extent, when it commences to be broken into minute fractions by the retail dealers—it is notorious that the consumers have no advantage whatsoever. I recol lect an instance which shows this. The duty was taken off leather some time ago, and there was a very great loss to the revenue at the time, but leather was made very much cheap er. Now, I ask any gentleman whether he got a pair of boots or shoes the cheaper for the reduction in the price of leather ! (" No.") Now, the consumer would gain no ad vantage b-y the reduction in the price of sugar; but I will tell you who would have a great loss. The West India planters are now at the close of a great experiment,—in which I had the honour of taking a very popular part—an experiment most arduous, yet most honourable, and, I will add, most costly to this country ; the- West Indians are beginning to recover from the first effects of the sudden emancipation of the negroes ; habits of industry are begin ning to be cultivated in those islands; the negroes are work ing for wages—for high wages, doubtless—as necessary to tempt them to abandon that idleness in which the climate and the little labour necessary to supply themselves with food and a maintenance tempts them to indulge ; but they are now beginning to labour steadily, diligently, and earn estly for the high wages which the West Indians are enabled to give, because, in this country they are enabled to dispose of the whole amount of their sugar, which is the staple pro duce of the 'West Indies. (Hear.) In addition to this, in the East Indies, a very large proportion of British capital has been embarked, and successfully embarked, in the culti vation of sugar. In the course of a few years, the amount of sugar for the consumption of this country will increase, arid, indeed, is increasing rapidly. But if, at this moment, by a reduction in the amount of the duty —not upon colonial sugar or upon our own sugar (for there was no proposition made to reduce that)—which would render it impossible for the West Indians and the East Indians to pour your own colonial sugar in your own markets, the produce of freemen just emerging into freedom,—the inevitable consequence will be, that the West India cultivation of sugar must be thrown up ; the great experiment of emancipation must be abandoned; and, instead of conferring the blessing of liberty upon 800,000 fellow-creatures, you will have conferred a curse, instead of .a blessing ; and, at the expense of twenty millions sterling to this country, you will have created an idle, a dissolute, and a pauper population ; because they are not duly encouraged by your legislation, and because, by the paltry attempt to save a small fraction of a penny in the pound of sugar, you will have transferred the whole supply of this country from your own colonies, from your own fel low-subjects, from those who consume, in proportion to their population, an infinitely larger proportion of our manu factured goods than any other country in the world ; you will have transferred to foreigners that trade which is now so mutually beneficial to you and to your fellow-subjects, the colonists. Now I understand perfectly well the argument— supposing Lord John Russell had proposed to reduce the duty upon colonial sugar, now amounting to 245. per cwt., and proportionally to reduce the duty upon foreign sugar. But that was not the proposal; the proposal was to keep the duty upon colonial sugar at 2-ls ; not to allow you to get colonial sugar one farthing cheaper, bat, by reducing the duty on foreign sugar, to bring the foreign into more advan tageous competition with the home growth ; and thereby, without reducing the price to the consumer, transferring the profits of trade from your own countrymen to foreign vessels and to foreign growers. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Now, what was the case as to foreign timber? They say, " It would be a great boon to take off the duty upon Baltic timber; and yet, for the sake of keeping up an odious mono poly" (for everything is " an odious monopoly" now-a-days —that is one of the cant terms), " you compel us to buy tad and dear timber from Canada." Now, what is the natural course to take in this matter? Why, the natural course for the benefit of the consumer, for the advantage of free trade, I suppose, at all events, is n ot to i ncrease th e d u t y on one , but to reduce the duty upon both alike. Let the colonial and the Baltic have fair play and competition. But what does the government? Do they propose to reduce the duty on Baltic timber to benefit the consumer ? Not a whit. I think the duty on Baltic timber is 455. a load ; and it was proposed to reduce it by 5s a load, and increase the duty on Canadian timber by 10s. a load, by way of free trade, and of increasing the consumption of an article, which, though inferior for some purposes to Baltic timber, if yet for many purposes just as good as Baltic timber. The free-trade principle of govern ment is not to reduce the duty on Canadian ; not to leave the duty on Canadian timber where it is ; but, upon the prin ciple of free trade, and giving the consumer the benefit of the proposal, they would raise the duty from 10s. up to 20s. a load. (Hear.) Now, my honourable friend, who did me the honour of proposing me just now, said that the govern ment had brought forward this measure with the professed desire of relieving the commercial distress of the country. I take leave to tell my honourable friend, that he is mistaken even so far; for the Chancellor of the Exchequer told his constituents a few days ago, at Portsmouth, when asked what it was that induced him to propose it, he said, " I will tell you what was the moving cause with me ; I had an empty exchequer." (Laughter.) These measures were not brought forward (if brought forward at all) as measures of high na tional and commercial policy.- They ought to have been brought forward upon a well-considered examination of the interests of different classes, and above all, with a perfect knowledge, so far as calculation can go, of the manner in which the different interests of this great country would be affected by the various changes proposed by the government. But if government had had any such notion in their head, they would have announced those measures early in the session. But when the chancellor (as my honourable friend and colleague, again I am happy to say, has just told you) found that he had, at the expiration of six years, a revenue £1,600,000 a year, with an expenditure continually increas ing, with a total deficiency of nearly £6,000,000, and the estimated deficiency to meet the revenue upon this year's estimates, upon which we are now entering, of £2,400,000 — then it was that her Majesty's government bethought them —not to serve the great commercial interests of the country, but for the purpose of adding to a declining and deficient revenue—to impose additional taxes upon articles of prime necessity ; and at the same time—feeling that their majority in the House of Commons had slipped from them, and that the confidence of the country had deserted them still more —to be able to tax these great articles of prime necessity additionally, and at the same time putting forward the plausible fallacy, that they were the advocates of free trade. and were promoting the manufactures of the country. (Ap plause.) And what said a member of the government with respect to these measures ? £2,400,000 deficiency was to be made up. Why, government calculated they should receive £600,000 a year more upon the importation of timber, and that at a higher price than before. They calculated that they should have £700,000 more a year upon the importation of sugar. So much for additional taxes. They calculated that they might obtain £400,000 a year upon the introduc tion of foreign corn ; those sums making together, I think, £1,700,000; but for the remaining £700,000, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, with an openness and a candour very praise -worthy, and, I will add, very unusual in a Chancellor of the Exchequer, " For making up the remaining £700,000," he says, " I tell you frankly, I don't make any proposal at all. I think, in the course of the present year, we must make up our minds to exceed our income by £700,000; and I have only to hope that it may not happen again." Gentle men, is that the way to conduct the government ? Is that the way to administer the finances of this country ? (" No.") Is not that rather the way, by showing that your finances are unequal to your income, to show your weakness to foreign powers, and, as I found myself compelled to tell the govern ment in the House of Commons, to cripple the energies and the resources of this mighty empire ! (Vehement applause.) Now, really, I am sorry to d e t a i n you —(" G o on") ;—but perhaps you will allow me to enter upon these subjects. I think it right that I should not attempt to dogmatise, or to lay down propositions as of absolute, or of any, authority, as coming from me; but I will state to you, candidly and frankly, what are my views upon these subjects, and why I cannot fall in with these plausible fallacies, which have been brought forward to support the measures of government. Now, it is very easy to say, " Oh, we are going to alter the corn-law ;" and " the corn-law is a grinding monopoly ;" that it is " a tax of 50 millions a-year ' and " a landlords' tax ;" and that it is " a tax to b ene fit the few at the expense of the many," and " you will ge t, if you on l y atten d to us, the shilling loaf for sixpence, and the sixpenny loaf for three pence." Gentlemen, it is all very well to say, but it is very difficult to prove it. To the poor man, anxious to obtain a subsistence for his family, and to obtain nothing more than fair remuneration for his labour—who wants nothing more than employment, and who is willing to give his labour rea dily and industriously —I say, I can easily understand, if he is told by one party, Why, with your wages remaining the same, would it not be a good thing to pay 9d. where you now pay Is. 6d. for your bread and provisions ? You will have so much the more to put into your pockets." Why, of course, if the labouring classes believe these statements, it is very natural that they should not be without their weight npon their minds, and that they should act upon the impres sions produced by those statements. But what reason have they to suppose that those statements are sound and true ? Now here is one of these statements ; these are the benefits which are supposed to result from total, immediate, and un conditional repeal of the corn-laws; because, although go vernment do not propose repeal; although they take care to keep a sufficient protection to the agriculturist, as they re gard the Bs. a quarter duty—whereas almost every petition I have seen presented, and which government have paraded as supporting their views, has been for absolute, entire, and unconditional repeal of all corn-laws whatsoever. Now here [and his lordship held a printed paper in his hand] is what is to happen :—" We shall buy a gallon of flour, which now costs Is. 6d., for about ls., and the farmer will not be in jured. We shall buy a pound of meat, which now costs Bd., for about sd. or 6d., and the grazier will not be injured. W e shall buy a pound of butter, which now costs Is. fid , for Bd. or 10d., and no one will be injured. (Laughter.) w e shall get a pound of candles, which now cost 7d., for 5d., and no one will be injured. We shall get a gallon of potatoes, which now cost 4d., for 2d., and no one will be injured ;" and so forth. In short, you are to have the advantage of buying all articles much cheaper than at present ; and the person who produces them, and the person who sells them, and into whose pocket the profit goes, will not be injured. Very in genious! but a little impracticable, and, I am inclined to think, not quite consistent with fact. (Applause.) But now with respect to the expected reduction, I am inclined to be lieve, first of all, that if these consequences did follow, they would not benefit the labourer; secondly, that if they fol lowed, certainly they would injure the farmer; and, further, I am inclined to think they would not benefit the interests of the manufacturer. (Hear, hear.) Ido not believe that the amount of the reduction in the price of corn would be, according to the government plan, anything like that which is calculated upon by sanguine advocates of the measure. But you are told that you are to buy bread which you now pay ls. Gd. for, that you are to get it for is. ; the 4 lb. loaf you are to buy for Gd. instead of 9d. ; and that is to be ef fected by the proposed reduction in the price of corn. Let me remind you, in the first instance, that the price of corn is by no means the only element which enters into the price of bread. I suppose you won't get the miller to work for less than he did ; I suppose you won't get the baker to bake for less ; or the retail shopkeeper to sell at a less profit than now. All those charges will remain precisely as they are ; and those charges, in the case of bread, constitute one-third of the whole amount. That is to say, supposing four gallons of corn at 60s. a quarter to cost 12s. that quantity made into bread would cost something more than 18s. Consequently, the whole reduction to be effected must be effected upon the price of corn in the first instance, or upon the 12s. ; and, if you were to reduce it to one-half, it must follow, as a neces sary consequence, that that reduction will be effected by a reduction of no less than one-half in the price of corn, or by a permanent reduction of say from 60s. down to 30s. a quar ter. (Hear.) Now, suppose that happens; suppose the farmer and the landlord (for I will not separate them) to have the commodities they produce, and which yield them their income, reduced by one. half, without any alteration in the price of labour and in the character of their cultivation, with out any facilities given to them in compensation for this re duction,—l ask you how is it possible that that reduction of 50 per cent. should take place upon the price of corn, and neither landlord nor • farmer be injured by the alteration ? (Hear, hear, hear.) If the reduction take place, it must be ruin to the farmer. Gentlemen are very apt to talk about these things. " Oh, it don't matter much about the landlords; the landlords will suffer; their rents will fall; but it is not a farmer's question ; the farmers have nothing to do with it; and still less have the farming labourers." Now, the farmer, you may r ely, w ill s u ff er w ith th e l an dl or d , and the labourer with the farmer. Supposing the whole produce of a farmer to be worth £5OO, and the rent that is paid for it £100; and that the produce of the farmer is to be reduced to £250. Why, the whole rent is only £lOO. The landlord may lose £3O or £75 out of his rent ; but I should like to know who is to lose the other £l5O. But, if the whole produce be reduced one-half, and the whole falls upon the rent, what is to make up to the farmer for the loss of his fixed capital embarked in the cultivation of his farm ? But, I will tell you what the landlord will do. A gentleman of £7,000 or £B,OOO finds his income reduced to £5,000 or £6,000. It deprives him of some certain superfluities ; he is not able to do quite so much as before ; he is obliged- to con tract his expenses. What does he do ? He looks about to see what portion of his expenses lie can contract and diminish, with the least inconvenience to himself, and as least affect ing the income he enjoys ; and he finds it necessary to dis miss a certain number of servants ; he keeps rather fewer servants ; he has less pleasure grounds ; he turns off one or two gardeners, he reduces his grooms, aud, in short, his whole establishment; by which he also reduces the amount of his assessed taxes, and thereby the revenue which comes into the country ; and he naturally squares his expenditure to his income. But then, upon whom does this loss fall ? What is to become of those persons who are turned out of employment, in consequence of the gentleman not being able to keep them any longer? Is it a landlords' question, then? When the landlord reduces his expenditure one-half, is the landlord the person to suffer most ? And if all the landlords in England are compelled to reduce their establishments by one-half, do you think the humbler classes of the population will find themselves very much richer, or in the enjoyment of a larger supply of the necessaries of life than now? (" No.'') Now, what is to happen to the farmer ? Why, the farmer finds, that though he pays a lower rent, yet the reduction in value of his farm produce is such, that those extensive modes of tillage and cultivation which he is able to afford with a profit, in consequence of the high price of agricultural produce, he is bound to abandon. He is bound to adopt a more slovenly, because at the same time a more cheap mode, and where he employed one agricultural labourer more, he will do with one less in future. Now, is that a farmers' question or a landlords' question, or is that a ques tion for the labouring classes of this country seriously to consider, whether they would diminish the income of the landlord and the profit of the farmer, and put an end to his mode of carrying on an expensive but still profitable cultiva tion of his farm—whether the abandonment of that is likely to be productive of very great advantage to the servants and dependents of the landlord, or to the agricultural servants employed by the farmer in his tillage ? But now gentlemen say, " There is no difficulty at alf about this. It is quite true that a great many acres will go out of tillage ; but they are not to go out of cultivation." Lord John Russell's brother, the other day, stated to his constituents, that he believed the effect of the proposed alteration of the corn laws would be to throw out of tillage between two and three million acres. Is that for the advantage of the labourer or the farmer? "Oh ! but," say these free trade gentlemen, " you must convert them. It is quite true you won't grow corn on them ; but you can turn them into pasture ; and you must fatten cattle upon land so poor that it won't pay for the tillage of oats." I rather think that if some of these gen tlemen were to turn practical farmers, they would find some difficulty in fattening bullocks upon land that won't pay at the present price for oats. (Applause.) And I rather sus pect that the result will be, that not only a vast proportion of agricultural labourers will be thrown out of employment, but that a vast proportion of tillage land will be thrown out of tillage; and by taking tillage out of the due rotation of crops, they will render that land comparatively value less, whether for tillage or pasture. (Loud appplause.) Now all this is upon the supposition of a reduction of one half in the price of corn. This is put forth as the clap-trap to the manufacturers. One word to the manufacturing la bourers, if there be any present. The manufacturers tell you that the foreign trade ought to be very much increased, and they tell you that the amount of your productions would be very much increased by having cheap bread. Why will it be so increased ? Because they can produce the articles cheaper. Why can they produce the articles cheaper? Because they will have to pay lower wages. (Hear.) The only mode in which a cheaper price of corn can be beneficial to a manufac turing community is by enabling them to dispose of more goods ; and they will dispose of more goods if they will pro duce the goods cheaper; and they will produce the goods cheaper, because, upon their own showing, they will be obliged to give a smaller amount of wages, in consequence bf the reduced price of corn. If they don't give a lower price of wages, the labourers of course obtain the benefit ; but then the increase of manutactures does not follow. (Applause.) Gentlemen, that is not my argument. My argument is as I have stated it. I defy any man to come forward and say, that is not the fair argument of the manufacturer. A reduc tion of prices enables us to produce cheaper, and we shall produce cheaper, because we pay lower wages to our men. I don't say, as some have assumed on the other side, that high prices necessarily causes high wages; because I believe the amount of wages is regulated upon very different principles, and is not wholly dependent upon the price of any article, but upon the supply of labour in proportion to the demand for labour. If there is a larger proportion of labourers willing to give their labour, in proportion as those who are willing to give their labour is in excess, in such proportion the compe tition between themselves will reduce the amount of wages. without reference to the price of corn. But observe. This is rather an abstruse questiw, and perhaps I ought not to be entering into it ; I feel thzVit is a very dry one ; I dare say that it is very tedious to you. (" No, go on.") No doubt if the price of corn falls, I believe that the nominal price of wages would fall too,—that is to say, there would be a com petition amongst the labouring classes for employment at sucn a price, not because it is 2s - . or 2s. 6d. but because 2s. or 2s. 6d. would give them a certain command of the necessaries of life. And if from the same number of persons coming into competition for the remuneration of their labour, they could obtain the same amount of the necessaries of life for 1!. which they could obtain before for 2s. you will have pre cisely the same number of persons offering their labour for Is. who were offering before for 2s. But now, supposing the result of the alteration in the corn laws to be this, that by the reduction of the incomes of the landlords and the far mers, - and by the numbers of hands whom the farmers throw out of employment, the competition for manufacturing la bour is greatly increased, then I apprehend that not only the nominal price of wages, but the real price of wages, will fall from that which it is at present ; and, if the number of hands who are thrown out of employment by the farmer, in dependently of the cruelty and the hardship (which these free traders never take into calculation for a single moment) of breaking through all the habits, customs, and feelings, the number of agricultural labourers thrown out of employment will tend to swell the number of competitors for manufactu ring labour, and the real as well as the nominal price of ma nufacturing labour will fall, to the distress of the labourer and to the injury of the country. (Applause.) Now, I said that these free traders never take into consideration these views of humanity ; but we, in legislating, must take into consideration these things. You cannot coolly talk of throw ing out of tillage a whole district of country, supporting thousands of families, and when they are plunged into abso lute beggary by the operation of the corn law, you cannot say, as if they were so many mechanics, that they must trans fer their labour; that they must go from the healthful and peaceful occupations of agriculture to others for which they are unfitted by all their previous habits and feelings ; you cannot say to those men coolly, " Transfer your labour to some other quarter ; go for the means of subsistence to spend the wretched remainder of your days, cooped up in the wretched alleys of a manufacturing town, amidst scenes repugnant to all tour previous habits, and where, in periods of temporary competition, those whom you find yoLir com- petitors for employment will reduce the wages of your la bour, and sickness and disappointment, pain and penury, will shortly throw around that wretched portion of the agricultu- ral labourers, whom your free traders have coo* told to transfer their labour into some other quarter." (Cheers.) But how are these reductions in the price of corn to take place ? You are told by these free traders that you are to have corn half as cheap as now ; but what is the opinion of statistical writers,—the men who know something about these questions upon which they talk and write ; the men who have really studied the foreign markets, and know what is the effect of British demand for continental supply ? I have here a pamphlet lately written by Mr. M'Culloch,—a gentleman than whom no man is better conversant with the whole subject, entering largely into its statistical details,—a man who not only is in favour of a moderate fixed duty, but who thinks that the fixed duty of the present government is infinitely to high; he tells you at the same time - that it is necessary to give protection to the agriculturists ; because he admits, that in proportion to the rest of the comm unity they are unfairly and unequally taxed if you take the protec tion away from them. He, at the same time, tells you that from the best inquiries he can make, he is satisfied that it would not be possible to introduce permanently into this country foreign corn, at a less amount than from 53s to 54s a quarter ; and the average price of corn in England for the last ten years, has been, if I am not mistaken, 56s lid or 57s in round numbers,under the system of protection to the British gl i bwer. The advantage to be derived to the con sumzr of corn, from removing this protection, a nd adopting the principl es an d t h e plan of government , while you throw the agricultural labourers out of employment, while you ruin the farmers, while you injure the landlords, and diminish the employment they are able to afford, the advantage to the consumer is not this 30s a quarter which these gentlemen talk off ; but a reduction of somewhere about 3s a quarter, as compared with the average price of corn in this country for the last few yews. And this is the advantage which the consumer is to obtain from the sacrifice of the agricultural interests of this country ! That is the statement of Mr. M'Culloch ; that is the statement of Mr. Woolridge Whit more, another gentleman who has inquired very accurately into this point. (Hear, hear.) Gentlemen, I wont fatigue you by going through the details. I have examined carefully the statements made by taose gentlemen; I put them for ward, not as my own statements, bnt as the statements of gentlemen intimately acquainted with the corn trade, dili gently and carefully making statistical inquiries ; and they tell you that with a duty of 8s the price of corn will not fall more than about 3s a quarter from that at which it has been on an average for the last ten years. (Hear.) Now, if this be the case, is it not absurd—is it not worse than abourd—is it not mischievous and dangerous, to stimulate the passions. and to excite the feelings of the labouring and the manufac turing classes, by saying they will have reduction of one-half in the price of bread ; when the best statistical writers on the government side of the question tell you that they calculate upon a reduction of 555. 565. or 57. down to 538. or 545. a quarter? Gentlemen, I leave you to cast up the stuns for yourselves, and to see how much in the 41b loaf a man will gain by the reduction of 3s. per quarter upon corn. But in asmuch as the calculation is made that every man in this country, upon the average, consumes somethi, quarter of corn in the year, the total saving which, • to those gentlemen is to beobtained by the destructio agricultural interests in this country, amounts to jr • year to each man in the community; that 3s. entaili , him a reduction in the amount of his wages and o ployment, which I am afraid will far more than balance any supposed advantage from the reduer price of food. But now, the manufacturir. be very much abridged by this change. How. say that a number of countries. (take the United States example) because you won't take their corn, they won't t your manufactured goods; but that if you will take tl; corn, the United States will consume an enormously grey quantity of our manufactured products. Well, supposing t price of corn to be so much reduced, as to produce a ye, largely increased consumption, then I can understand, the a very large increase in the consumption by this country wi cause a proportionate increase in the amount of our =nu factures disposed off. But, inasmuch as I rather apprehend that neither foreigners, nor any other persons, are willing ti give us their corn for nothing at all, the effect, if there is tr be no large reduction in the price of corn, will be no larg( increase in the consuption of corn ;—(hear)--and if there be not a large increase in the consumption of corn, then there will be no exchange of commodities to drive out foreign manufactures, and to encourage and foster the increase of manufactures. This will happen, —you will increase your foreign trade very likely ; but what will become of your home trade in the mean time. You may increase the export of your manufactures a million, or two millions; there is no limit to the amount to which manufacturing industry may be carried, provided its produce meets with a market; but of what ad vantage will it be to the manufacturer, if he increases the amount of the exports, by the encouragement given to the import of foreign corn, and at the same time he checks the produce of commercial industry, and the growth of British corn, which would give him at least an equal return for an equal proportion of his manufactures ? (Great applause.) Gentlemen, these are subject s no t t o b e approached without thegreatestdeliberation and acquainted with the details and the propable workings of these great questio ns ; an d I w ill venture to press upon the good sense of the electors of this county, and upon that which is in fact the governing body of this country, that it is not to be led away by a cry of fan cied advantage, and plausible statements of enormous bene fits to one portion of the community, without, at the same time, sifting to the bottom the soundness or the folly of those statements •, and ascertaining, before they commit themselves to hasty and imprudent legislation, that those measures ay..: brought forward with full deliberation, with ample informa tion, without any ulterior objects, or different objects to serve, except to promote the general interests of the coun try ; and that they are brought forward by men in whose judgment, in whose sagacity, in whose prudence and good management of the general affairs of the country, and of the community at large, it can place undivided and unlimited confidence. These great experiments, once made, cannot be unmade. You cannot tamper with these great interests, and then fancy that you will undo the mischief you have done. It will require, I fear, years yet to undo the mischief that has been done, by the appeal which has been made to the passions of these people, upon this occasion. I fear it will require years to allay those exasperations, and to remove those plausible fallacies, by which it has been sought —cer tainly not without the countenance of the present admini stration, if not directly through them—to delude the people of this country into adopting measures, upon the strength of which measures that government hope they shall avoid that discussion and inquiry which they deserve and ought to have, as to the whole of their measures, and as to the whole of their claims upon the public confidence. Now, even in a financial point of view, these things are not to be decided rashly. I admit frankly . that, in the long run, a judicious reduction of import duties frequently tends to the increase of consumption, to the augmentation of the revenue, and. st 3s. a at the same time, proportionally to increase the comforts of this country. lam by no means hostile to the careful and thorough revision of the whole of our commercial tariff ; but it is a work of infinite labour, and infinite delicacy. It is not to be taken up in the manner in which it has been taken up in the ex parte evidence given before the Imports Duties Committee, by Mr. M`Gregor and others, with hastily con cocted schemes which the government had produced, wild and impracticable, although they have prepared them from their own officers to put them forward. But, although in the long run a reduction of duties may lead to the increase of the revenue, the first effect is sure to be that of diminu tion, because the increase of consumption is gradual, while the reduction of duty is immediate. Therefore, so far from these reductions of duty, if they should be called so, or any reduction of duty on any article imported, immedi ately increasing the consumption, the certain immediate effect is to diminish the revenue in the first instance, al though ultimately and gradually it may increase it. (Hear.) Therefore, while the nation is labouring under difficulties from its finance to the extent of £2,400,000 in the year, I hold it impossible to have selected a more unfortunate time or a more happy occasion to bring forward, on the plea that it would increase the revenue, a measure which, I believe, in the first instance, must have the effect of reducing the re venue. Gentlemen, I feel how very long I have trespassed upon your time. I hope I have not, in the terms which I have used, given offence in any quarter ; or that, in bringing forward these arguments, which I thought supported my view of the case, I trust 1 have not given personal offence, or been guilty of personal discourtesy in any quarter. I desired to shew that these questions are not to be taken up as a strug gle between interests so great and important, as mere clap trap appeals to the paassions, rather than to the reason of the people. 1 desired, impartially and fairly, to consider ; and, by the reason of the people, if they will give to the discussion consideration of this question that reason fairly, calmly, and deliberately, I have no fear of trusting the interests of the country to the deliberations and the reasoned judgment of my fellow-countrymen. Gentlemen, I thank you for the patient attention with which you have heard me going through details which have been exceedingly dry and uninteresting. I thank you yet more for the kind renewal of the confidence with which you have honoured me now, for the fifth time, in returning me as your representative to parliament, and I can only assure you, that I will, in the fir s t pl ace , never, w hil e I am ready frankly to state my opinions upon every subject, I will not condescend nor insult your understanding by giving a pledge as to the specific vote which, under any circum stances, 1 will give on any individual measure, but I wil. you to your knowledge of my past conduct and charaete and will endeavour to vindicate the choice which you have this day made,of me as one of your representatives in parlia ment, by a faithful ) and honest, and assiduous, and, I will venture to add for myself, a conscientious discharge of those important duties, and that weighty responsibility which your confidence has this day placed upon my shoulders. (Cheers.) The noble lord resumed his seat at half-past twelve, having spoken an hour and ten minutes. SOUTH LANCASHIRE ELECTION, On Wednesday the election for the southern division of Lancashire took place at Newton, when Lord Francis Eger ton and Mr. Wilbraham were returned without opposition. Notwithstanding the confident boascings of the supporters of Mr. Townley that that gentleman was sure of being elected, they very prudently sent, on Tuesday, an official letter to the conservative committee, announcing that their candidate had withdrawn from the poll. Notwithstanding the unfavourable state of the weather, Newton presented a very animating ap pearance. About ten o'clock the conservative candidates arrived at the hustings in carriages, drawn by four horses, and accompanied by an immense number of their ardent supporters, and preceded by bands of music, with a large quantity of banners, exhibiting appropriate mottos and de vices. Soon after ten o'clock, the usual formalities having been gone through, the High-sheriff called on any elector who had a candidate to nominate to come forward and pro pose him. Sir JOHN GERARD then, amidst loud cheers and in a very animated strain, proposed Lord Francis Egerton as a fit and proper person to represent the southern division of the county in parliament, which was seconded by Sir Thomas Brancker. J. I. BLACICBURE, Esq., M.P., proposed, and Mr. En twistle seconded the Hon. Bootle Wilbraham. No other candidate being proposed, Lord FRANCIS EGERTON then presented himself to the multitude, and the cheering was renewed and continued for a considerable length of time. When silence had been in some degree restored, he proceeded in nearly the following terms, but, owing to the distance at which we stood from his lordship, several of the sentences were very imperfectly heard. He said, that although he was not altogether a young member of parliament, yet that of late years it had been so little his habit to be returned to the House of Commons without a severe struggle for the honour, that on the present occasion he assured the electors he felt more difficulty than he had experienced on former occasions—that he scarcely knew how to behave himself, how to thank them, or how in general to conduct himself. (He ar , and laughter.) The present was the third occasion upon which he had come for ward either to request or to thank them for their given suf frages. When he had come forward originally, almost a stranger to the county, and subsequently, when he had been a second time returned to parliament, he was warned in every instance that his attempt was a vain one. He was told that public opinion in the county was against him, and that there was no room for a conservative amid the wedged masses of whiggery which existed. He had not, however, shrunk from this warning. He well knew that no personal interests of his own could weigh in sach a contest, and that no adven titious circumstances of rank or wealth could be any recom mendation in the eyes of the independent achievers of their own fortunes in Liverpool and Manchester; yet he had been tempted by those whom he thought he could trust, that a triumph, without the use of bribery, but a triumph of opinion, was to be won in the county, and he thought, for the sake of the country at large, that such a triumph was worth contending for and winning. (Hear.) And with the support of the electors of the hustings, and the joint assistance of his late and present colleague, they together had given a complete confutation to those who doubted of their success, by the Arabic numerals of the poll. (Great cheering.) Though a similar triumph had crowned their exertions on the present occasion, he had been again warned of the result. He had I been told that he had won before in consequence of various accidents having occurred, but that now the circumstances were altered. In the first place, he had been told that a gentleman, a friend and respected neighbour of his own, who on the last occasion had given him his arm from theLegh . Arms up to that the place of execution, (hear, and laughter) —that his respected friend, Mr. Trafford, refused him his support on the present occasion. Now he (Lord Francis) thought it right to observe, before he proceeded further, that if he thought his return for the county depended on the sup port of any single arm, however influential that arm might be, he never would have put his fortunes to th e h azar d of an election. (Hear, hear.) But, as lie was saying, Mr. Traf ford's arm had been freely given before ; he knew not in what he had offended; and he knew as little why it should have been withdrawn. But although he was ignorant in these respects, he had the satisfaction of knowing that it was not to any personal conduct he was to attribute the loss, and that nothing had occurred on his part to diminish the friendly relationship which had existed betwen him and the gentle man in question. Sorry, indeed, should he (Lord Francis) be, if from the excitement of election strife, or from any quarter with which he might be connected, occasions for differences should arise of so serious a nature as to cause sudden changes of opinion. He would not say more on this subject, except to take that opportunity of returning his thanks to his noble friend, Sir John Gerard, for his kind assistance on that occasion, and to state, unworthy as be was to be the object of such services, that in doing him the honour to propose him to the notice of the electors, be had given the most complete, dignified, and contemptuous reply he could to accusations which it would be almost degradation to him—(vehement applause)—which, lie repeated, it would be almost degradation to him to notice in detail, kno . wi c nt e , n a t 7 he did, the quarter from which they had emanated cries of "hear," and cheers.) He (Lord Francis) disgusting d not had been for a touch further on what he conceived to be a topic. (Hear, hear.) The address he had published,nt'ed the substance of long time before the electors. his opinions on the questions her g mejesty's ministers. been forced on their attentio n o i f b t i L e 'o adi a n in interest which had accordance or The questions, or disagreement of forO t Other tanee questions, of f thelso however,general remained . y one. Another question was, to themode or line of timber,eon in the first an place, sugar i f on th t e h rn e a.eetttienng the electors with the constitution of the present ministry was 'could give him their indulgence if tAl.,oenydsome explanation duct the government bad c d o p rn u , rsue by remaining in office, and pressing the subjects f of the general as Ito listen t sp t o i e o r n mfa o irt f te t the ec him,o country: 9 tr r y principles lie had avowed in his address, his gratitude f or their attention and gratifying re ception of bins would be greatly increased. (Hear, hear.) of sugar was one upon which he had given T he eopinioquestionn at more length in parliament than it would be COtivenient for him to do on that occasion. The subject had been discussed for six nights in the house, and though it appeared to . trim