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II cora-. ;atisfied him the of the e lobby he seals , or pre gentle• talent, disay , far, We idepen' age his y idea' r shy of milt not ed icat assur. iity for I equal of tbe us can q, and, every , itch" (Is will ,ut we ,igs nqble ent on which of his con of by no lendid When iie the OCT. 14, 1 . 8.36 , circle of his sphere with the evanescent refulgzoce of meteoric light rather than benefit mankind by the steady and cams Mu_ urination of the planet—the light of deeply- reflected reason, certain in its course and useful in its application. We are not insensible of the merits of lord Braugharn, nor blind to his in discretions; he presents a splendid exhibition of the imperfecti bility of the human character. We have known him as an advocate, a member of parliament, and a reforming chancellor; and have never shrunk from the declaration of our opinions, whether he figured as the pamphleteer assailant of the peers, under a note of interrogation (?)—as Mr. " Tornkins Jenkins," or as Lord Brougham. We know that he allied himself to the whigs from policy, as to a party, likely at one time or other to hold.the reins of gOvernment—with the utter radicals there is no such prospect before him, and his reply to the Edinburgh in vitation shows that he would rather preserve his independence to serve his future personal interests or his ambition with the conservatives, than irretrievably stamp himself, by a marked association, as the leader of radicalism in the state ! It is one of the most discreet acts of his political life, and will be a bitter Pill of disappointment to the Edinburgh worthies. EXAMINATION of , INFANTS BY MR. WILDERSPIN. Yesterday, in the ball-room at the Town-hall, the infants belonging to the corporation schools underwent a public exa mination• under the guidance of a gentleman of the name of Wilderspin. The object of this examination was stated in the advertisements to be " to remove prejudice, to prove that chil dren are never too young to learn, and that they are complete creatures of imitation." It mav be recollected that Mr. Rath bone some short time ago moved, in the council-chamber, that the use of the ball-room in the Town-hall should be granted for this purpose, and became himself a guarantee against any injury which might happen to the room. It was generally thought at the time that the object of this was a ruse to act as a set off to the reputation of the new schools, recently erected by the friends of the established church, to bring the corporation schools again into favourable notice, and as a means of filling their now vacant benches. Though decidedly opposed to infant mental exertion, as based, in our opinion, on a wrong principle, and calculated rather to weaken than to strengthen the adult mind, yet, as the object has been dictated by praiseworthy motives and for a benevolent 'object, and has created sonic public interest, we give a literal report, so far as possible, of a part of the examination, and leave our readers to judge whether the infant efforts exhibited wete not of the description of a parrot's loquacity, and a were effort of memory which left reason asleep—such an effort as it is possible to obtain from a bullfinch by repeated trainings, which, when the first bar of a tune which it has been taught is whistled, will repeat the whole. Against one side of the room e. platform was erected, with raised seats facing the other part of the room, on which were three or four hundred children of from three to five yeats of age. The remainder of the room was excessively crowded, principally by ladies. The scene now pre sented a very ridiculous appearance, parties who were pushing and squeezing against one another, after looking at the chil dren, seemed to think they had come on a foolish errand, and smiled at each other at their own more than suspected folly. Mr. hathbone was conspicuously placed on the platform, and appeared to act as fugleman-general. Over the children, In the recess appropriated to the orchestra, sat the Mayor, Mr. Brown, Mr. Coglau, Mr. Hope, &c., end a party of ladies, look ing down with the greatest gravity on the infant rare-show. The squeezing now, at eleven o'clock, amounted to hot pressure, when Mr. Rathbone announced that, as there was a very great "pressure front without," Mr. Wilderspin had kindly consented to give another exhibition at eleven o'clock on Saturday, and any ladies or gentlemen who could not get in, or who chose to retire, would have their tickets returned, and might come again with them on Saturday. This announcement produced a slight relief. One of the children here, much to the amusement of the audience, putting its thumb in its mouth, began to squeal out lustily for its "mammy," and was only quietened by a judi cious application of " Did 'urn vex it, den—that's a pretty," from Mr. Wilderspin, whose qualifications for "nurse" were evidently first rate. Mr. WILDERSPIN then spoke as follows, as nearly as we, could collect, in the midst of pushing, and squeezing, and tip tr.e jostlings of short ladies : I have stated in my advertise ment respecting this exhibition of children that the end, and design of it was to remove prejudice, to prove that children were never too young to learn, and that they were complete creatures of imitation. All these three propositions, I trust, I shall be able to prove to your entire satisfaction. We have been too long, as a Christian people, given to the devil, rend left to c h ance . Wh en th e y oung m i n d has become poisoned, and when sin has taken deep root, than we have begun to teach. I Hear.) Ido not stand before you as a theorist; I never yet found any one too young to learn. It is our duty as a Christian leople t o see th a t t h e p rec i ous so ul s o f th ese c hild ren are no t ost. I will not detain you with a long speech, but will preface with all the remarks I have to make, because, when I turn round to address these precious babies, I shall not be able to speak much. I must be excused, for I have been so much ac customed to address little babies that I cannot address men. (Hear.) I must be permitted to add, that you must not judge of their performances as of those of men, but as the perform ances of children, and, however rediculous their motions may be, although they may appear silly to adults, they are perfectly sensible to young children. We are willing to relieve, but I am sorry to say, we are not at all times willing to instruct. I shall first of all prove that little children can be taught to sing. How I blush when 1 get into some of the country churches to find a hired choir, and persons too, hired to sing tunes to the Almighty, when children might be taught to do it so much 'better. If they will take, children to sing, I will engage that I will teach them to keep good time, and tune too. These children shall sing you a hymn the first. We think it quite necessary that these precious babes should be taught to sing hymns. I have thought it prudent to give these children "the milk of the world," and I will take the liberty of saying, that to give them mental food above their digestive powers, however good our intentions, must be abortive; b u t, if we we r e contented to give 'them simpl e mental food, such as was to be found in the bible, we should have inure genuine religion in the world, and not so much talk about it. We have had talk enough, we want actions. How often have l seen a child master of a whole house, and a perfect nuisaneo in it. But, here you see they are not too young to learn, and my acquaintance with them has not been more than five or six week, and you will recollect that all these children have learned has been done in five or six •vVeeks. You will give the credit of their attainments to their teachers, who have been kind enough to follow my directions." Mr. WILDERSPIN then addressed the children. "Now, my . dears, would you like to sing a hymn ?" " lss," responded a hundred chirpings. "Now I will tell you what we will do; we will give it out my dears, and the ladies and gentlemen may judge if we can sing. I will give it out first myself and then you will know what we are doing ; must 1?" " iss," answered the children. " When morning comes, the birds arise," &c. The children then, with certainly not much time, repeated the words after Mr. Wilderspin in a semi shout, whilst one was gaping in silent wonder at the gilt ornamented ceiling, one looking thi s w a y an d ano th er th a t, th e i r a tt en ti o n evidently en gaged with the novel scene around them, as the lips of the little artless creatures repeated the words which had been drilled into them by frequent lessons. "Now, my dears," continued Mr. Wilderspin, " will you stand up when I whistle ?" " Iss." "Now then," (blowing a whistle). The children all stood up. " Now there are three things," said Mr. Wilderspin, "to re member; not to open the mouth too" " wide," shouted the children. "Not to sing too " "loud," and not to sing through the " " nose," said the children, finishing the sentences. The children then again sung a hymn. " Well, - my dears, that will do for the present. Now, my dears, you must sit down when I whis tle." his." (Whistling.) Down sat the children. " There, you are all down, and a flue set of pretty faces you are. This is the instrument by which we teach aritemetic," placing an instru inent ou the platform, such as is used in many places on the contirient•for the purpose of counting. " Now, my dears, two ones are two." "Two ones are two," sung out the children. Two twos .are four." "Two twos are four," repeated the i ‘thildreia'np . to twelve. The children were tben cross-questioned -in the se , titenbers v and generally answered with readiness. The question's were'evidently, however, got by rote, and the child ren answeredmeChinically from the association of sounds in their niiiids*Which 'hid often been repeated whilst their little 'heads were whirling round in every direction, their lips only re peating the stated task. The Mayor, and great numbers of the assembled crowd, looking on with the most stolid gravity the While, rendered this scene inexpressibly ridiculous. "Now, my little children," said Mr. Wilderspin, laying the calculating in strument on the floor of the'platform, " long stories and long faces don't do for little children, do they?" "No." " Now, I Must mind and not tre"—" tread on it," shouted the children. Or I shall perhaps bre"—" break it," " and shall find the nearest way to the fl"—" floor,":finished the children. " I will whistle a tune, little children, perhaps you can tell what it is; 40 you think you can ?" " Iss." " Because there are some persons who think you have not got hearing. Now, what tune is this? (Whistling an incomprehensible sound.) “There is nee luck about the house," immediately responded all the child: " Now, my dears." The children then all begun singing Le thei r leader's whistling, and imitating him by clapping their , hands in time. "And we clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap away, This is the way we exercise and pass our little day." Now, my dears, there is another exercise," (imitating the Motion of walking.) The children struck up— " And we will walk altogether, walk, walk away ; This is the way we exercise and pass our time away." "Now, my dears," rubbing his face, and giving the signal; the children went on imitating him, and rubbing their faces : "And we will wash altogether, wash, wash away, • - Till we have washed and scrubbed all the dirt away." : lioud laught er f o ll owe d thi s f ea t . S evera l o th er s i m il ar per ..ftrmances were gone through. " Now, my dears, let me see 11 You can't think; automatons cant think, you know. How .I,lineh is t wenty pence ?" " One shilling an d e i g h tpence. " , How e much i s t w i ce two an d one over?'' " Three," replied ? Yutg urchin in a corner, and was of course followed by Three" therenow. fro m half the number of children. "'Think, you now, t ry a , .You don't think. You shall have time to rest a bit : two ?.. 4FPn.ii"w much is three times one and a half of answered a hundred much is' Twelve." r " Think, my dears. Now then, how don't Twelve, nine seven, sixteen," immediately think. How much isfferent voicee, " No, my dears, you don't my dears, y ou think; times two ?" " Twelve. " No, six, ten." " Very well.'pk ; try again?'' "Seven, thirteen, tion the children got Then repeating the lesson in rota readily. " Now, my into the beaten track and answered " London." "Of de ars. Franc what is the capital of England ?" " Berne." " I have a r ,4 a l '. " Paris." "Of Switzerland ?" you like buns?" :, Isa. „ “t ‘it l r a i rge, big basket of buns. Do pick the currants off?" " Iss."11 , you eat 'em fair, and not of Germany ?" " Scotland." ' Now, what is the capital Don't you think you ought to hav e Some boy says Scotland. sir." " Now, my dears, what is e t : l lv s o buns for that ?" " Iss, . a go_i* " A bone." (Loud laughter.l have in my pocket ? a bone. is it not a gonograph Mr. " No, my dears, not " Iss." He then commenced questionin irbers has called ,Inatical and geometrical figures, to which th e e thildren on mathe ch.ildren answered readily, answering with the glibness of a well trained parrot ques tions of what was a rhomboid, a spheroid, an eralateral triangle, an acute angle, an obtuse angle, a tria ng l e &c. Som e o f which questions Euclid has deemed worth' - of' prob lems to explain. From this, Mr. wad y ersin rocelaborate Put questions relating to music, and to the alphab e t proceeded to 'which were answered with equal off-hand readiness. ,g e ., all of child "ten had evidently had great pains taken with them thei r proficiency in their tricks reflected mu c h credit on, ale P e rseverance of Mr. Wilderspin in tutoring them. We will e leave our readers, however, to form their opinion of its utility. J 61.1 D'ESPRlT.—Written by William Bigelow, more than thirty years ago, when the First Consul of France had turned his attention to the cultivation of sugar from beets : I've a substitute found," says Bony ; " no more . • Of your sugar will I taste the sweet ;" " Very well," says John Bull—" while I use the cane, You're welcome enough to get beet." TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS. On Wednesday last the monthly meeting of the Town Coun cil was held. The Deputy TowN-cLEux having read over the minutes of .he last monthly, and subsequent council meetings, proceeded Lo read the report of the FINANCE COMMITTEE. At a meeting of the committee on the 9th of September, it was resolved that the lecturers of the churches of Liverpool, have their stipends paid to them as it appeared they were se cured to them on the presentation from the corporation, under their seal ; which presentation had been sent to the Bishop. LEASES. A number of applications for the renewal of leases were read, and granted. Mr. Councillor EARLE said, he observed that it was recoin mended to renew the lease of of a house in Whitechapel. Pot.' many years past the leases in this street had been renewed. The street was very narrow, and must eventually be widened, and he did not see why this lease should be granted, as it would be rendering the council liable to future expense. He observed, also, that a lease was to be renewed in Hanover-street, and he believed that the width of this street had not yet been decided on, and the parties applying for the lease might be building premises which would have Co be pulled down again. The MAYOR said, that there was a plan for Hanover-street determined up in. Mr. Courcillor RATHBONE said, with respect to the renewal of leases, it appeared to him, that the council at all times ought to renew leases. An equivalent was given for all leases; he was aware that he was a party interested in this question. The re fusal of leases frequently subjected individuals to great injury, when, sometimes, no improvement was contemplated, on which to ground the refusal. He thought that it ought to be a gene ral rule to renew all leases, and that was the right course for a public body to take, except were a special improvement was contemplated, and a definite time was laid down. Mr. Alderman EVANS would recommend, with Mr. Earle, that if it was not going a great way into futurity, hereafter all leases should be let with a clause, which, if necessary, would enable the corporation to recover the property without any question or trouble on such occasions. Mr. Councillor BOLTON, for the information of the council, would state, that so far as the finance committee was concerned, whenever a street was contemplated to be widened, they re fused to confirm the application for the renewal of leases. When there was no such contemplation, such applications were granted as a matter of course, on payment of the usual fine. He did not know whether Mr. Earle meant specifically to ob ject to the renewal of the lease in Whitechapel, but he knew that there had been nothing stated which might lead it to be in ferred by the finance committee that that street was intended to be improved. I f Mr. Earle had any objections to the granting of this particular lease, the better way would be to except it, and for Mr. Earle to state his reasons for objecting to it. Mr. Councillor EARLE being called upon, said he would merely wish to avoid what had been done on a former occasion by the old council. In Dale-street many of the houses had been sold over and over again, and they had had to pay as much as £lo per square yard for land which would not have cost them a a farthing if they had refused to renew the lease. They were guardians of the public property, and they ought not wantonly, for want of forethought, to throw it away. He did not think that any leases ought to be granted in Whitechapel ur in Para dise-street. The MAYOR said it had always been the custom to infuse into the minds of leaseholders that their property was of the cha racter of a freehold, and that had been a very politic course. (Hear.) Where they had adopted a different course, the coun cil had never thought it right to look prospectively 10 of 20 years, and refuse to renew leases on account of changes which might occur, considering that it was doing an injury to private individuals, and giving an uncertainty to this description of property. The grand point had always been to render this species of property as certain as possible. Mr. Alderman BROWN thought it must be obvious that private interests must give way to the public good. He took the same view as Mr. Earle, and thought that where streets were to be rebuilt and expensive houses erected, those buildings ought not to be erected without the consent of the corporation. He should not like to inconvenience the present tenants, but he thought it might be practicable to put a provision in the new leases to effect this. Mr. Councillor EARLE said he merely urged this on the prin ciple of the thing. The MAYOR, said perhaps the council would not press this question now, but let it be a subject of serious consideration and future discussion, for he could not help seeing that it was a very important question to the corporate property. If such a clans° were to be inserted in the leases it might very materially affect the corporate property. Mr. Councillor S'HISL apprehended it might be of very serious consequence if this discussion went forward to the public; be cause if a man could not count with some degree of certainty on obtaining his lease renewed it would materially lessen the value of his property. And to say that they would bind a man down to give up his property whenever he was called upon, was there any one in that council who would give one half for property under such circumstances. In bringing forward these undi gested suggestions they really might do a very great deal of injury to the property they sat there to protect. Gentlemen would do much better (he said it in all humility) in all matters of such importance if they would take a little trouble to reflect on the consequences of observations before they made them, and after reflecting on them to offer them in the shape of resolutions. Even now, from these observations going before the public, a great deal of injury might be done. He hoped it would go abroad that no intention whatever was intended to alter the present plan adopted. Mr. Councillor HENRY LAWRENCE said, as there was no mo tion before the council he would move that the proceedings of the committee be confirmed. _ The report was then confirmed. GLOBE CHAMBERS. The MAYOR said a report had been handed in that morning from the improvement committee .relating to the purchase of the Globe C limbers. . . . '['he Deputy TOWN-CLERK then read the report of the com mittee on this subject as follows : " The committee have to report that at a meeting of the im provement committee, held on the 28th of August last, it was resolved that the surplus laud, part of the Globe-chambers, should be offered for sale, and the sum of £l2 per yard was fixed as the price thereof. On the 7th Sept. such resolution was fixed in council. In the month of August, a person, probably Mr. Sanderson, called on Mr. Okill, and inquired whether such land would be sold. Mr. Okill replied that it would, and as' there would be a sale by auction of corporation property about December, this laud would probably be put up with the rest; but Mr. Okill states that he never positively stated, that it was to be sold by auction. At a meeting of the improvement coin mittee, Mr. Franklin, who had been previously employed to sell the materials of the Globe-chambers, and had actually sold the same to Mr. Parry. was directed to put up a board ou the remaining laud, offering the same fur sale, but such board was never put up. At a meeting of the improvement committee on the 12th of Sept. letters from Messrs. Barclay and Clibborn of the 9th, and from Mr. Wm. Rotheram, of the 10th, requesting to know the price, having been read, and the price fixed by the last committee having been communicated to Mr. Clibborn, it was resolved that they be applied to for an answer to the com munication, and in the event of their declining the same, that the land be offered to Mr. Rotheram on the same terms. On the 13th, Mr. Okill having received a letter from Mi. Clibborn declining the purchase, wrote to Mr. Rotheram offering him the land at £l2 per yard. On the 13th or 14th, (the note bears no date) Mr. Rotheram wrote to Mr. Okill offering £lO per yard yard. On the 18th, Mr. Parry applied to Mr. Franklin respect ing the price of the land, when Mr. Franklin told him the same, and also stated that another offer had been made, though he does not recollect whether he mentioned the name. At a meet ing of the improvement committee of the 19th, Mr. Clihhorn's letter declining the purchase, and Mr. Rotheram's letter offering £lO, and Mr. Parry's offering £lolos., having been read, it was resolved that Mr. Rotheram be informed that the committee cannot deviate from the price fixed, and in the event of his de clining the same, that it be offered to Mr. Parry on the terms of the offer to Mr. Rotheram. On the 20th, Mr. Okill commu nicated the above resolution to Mr. Rotheram, and informed him that a higher offer bad been submitted to the committee; but did not communicate with Mr. Parry. On the 20th, Mr. Parry called on Mr.' Franklin, and inquired of him whether he was authorised to sell the land. Mr. Franklin replied in the affirmative. Mr. Parry said, " I will give you twelve pounds per yard for it." Mr. Franklin said, " Write me a note to that effect." Mr. Parry said, " The pur chase-money is ready." Mr. Franklin answered, " Put that down at the bottom of your note." The note was given to Mr. Franklin, and Mr. Parry said, in conversation, " Is it a sale?" Mr. Franklin said, " Yes; unless anything supersedes it." This expression was construed by the banking company as meaning the confirmation of the sale by the council. Mr. Franklin says he meant its being superseded by Mr. Rotheram accepting the terms; he, Mr. Franklin, having alluded to his being in treaty for the purchase of the land, in his former in terview with Mr. Parry. Mr. Parry's note was delivered by Mr. Franklin to Mr. Okill, who told Mr. Franklin that the land was under offer to Mr. Rotherham. On the 21st, Mr. Ro theram wrote to Mr. Okill, agreeing to purchase the land at £l2; and on that day Mr. Okill wrote to Mr. Parry, telling him that Mr. Rotheram's application was the first, and that he had offered the £l2. On the 26th, Mr. Rotheram's letter, and a let ter from the Tradesmen's Bank, preferring a claim to 'this pur chase, in consequence of what they asserted to be a priority of application, were read in the improvement committee, the sub ject was brought forward, and the surveyor having attended and explained, it was resolved, " that the directors be informed that the committee have investigated all the circumstances relative to the sale, and regretted their disappointment, but cannot ad mit that they have any ground of complaint. " Your committee on the whole, are of opinion that Mr. Ro therham being the party actually in treaty with the improve ment committee, the negotiation not having been broken off, is entitled to be considered the purchaser, but they have come to this conclusion with some difficulty, owing to the circumstance of two authorised agents having been employed to effect the sale, amid although 11Ir. Franklin did state to Mr. Parry that another offer had been made, they are of opinion•that Mr. San derson was deterred from makingan earlier offer in expectation of a sale by auction. In conclusion, they cannot help regret ting that a fruitless negotiation should have been kept up with the bank through so important an officer as the surveyor, and that the proceedings of the improvement committee had not been more explicitly and promptly communicated to the baelt. They think the practice of offering all land by auction ; before any private treaty be resorted to, ought to be adopted as a gene ral rule for the future, (hear, hear,) and that one channel only for selling the property should be adopted. "They have to add with satisfaction, that they can discover no grounds whatever for the impression, that any member of the council had the least interest in the transaction. (Signed) " GEO. HOLT, Chairman." The 111 avert enquired if it was the pleasure of the Council to confirm the report. Mr. Councillor SHIEL did not understand what the report was to lead to. There were some discrepances in this business with which they must deal. In the first place, there was an offer made of £lO. and another offer of ten guineas; yet the man who made the higher offer had' his negotiation broken, whilst he who made the lower offer had his continued. It was entirely a negociation. Mr. Rotherh a m was not boun d to take this at the offer. and the committee could not be supposed to give it him. One of their a uthorised servants, the surveyor, had been employed to sell the land, and had, apparently, con cluded the sale. The public could not be supposed to be cogni zant of their having employed Mr. Okill to sell it. On the 20th of September they had not entered into any positive arrange ments with Mr. Rotherham, and on the 21st, the party who had previously made the highest offer makes an offer of the full de mand. 'they don't take this into consideration, but 24 hours after they take the lower offer of the other person. Ile made no animadversion about this; as it was it must go to the public. Mr.Councillor HOPE said the answer to this was very simple. It was correct, as Mt. Shiel had stated, that there had been a second application, and that that second offer had not been ac cepted. But he entirely lost sight of this most important part of the subject that this second applicant had been informed that there was a negociation going on with a prior app li c a nt , an d that any neeociation could not be concluded until the negocia tion with the prior applicant had been decided. The answer had been "yes; it is a bargain if it be not superseded" by the pending negociation. The first applicant %vas Mr. Rotherham; he made a certain offer, which was declined, haying been pre-, THE LATE .POOL S'T'ANDARD: viously informed what the price would be. In the mean while the second application was made, and in the course of conver sation the second applicant says, "I will give you your price; is it a bargain or not ?" and was answered, and here came the most important proviso, "that i§ if it is not superseded by the existing negociation." Then the first party taking it before the offer was withdrawn from hint, how then could they conclude except with the first party? He was very glad that the com mittee had pointed out the inconvenience arising- from having had the sale committed to two individuals. lie hoped to turn this untoward circumstance to good account: on some future occasion he should bring forward a motion on the subject. He was satisfied that the committee could have coins to no other decision than they had done. He had never sat on a committee where the individual ineinhers of it seemed actuated by a higher sense of duty. Mr. Councillor Bourox hoped it would be recollected that there was no person in the council who would be more cautious that its honour should be unsullied with the public than himself. He trusted that it would ever maintain the strictest honour, and that the most liberal construction would be put on the acts of its members. But the matter in question was one affecting the rights of the public, and he for one could not but think there had been some inadvertency on the part of the improvement committee. He attributed no improper motive to them—he had no suspicion of them. He would only simply advert to the circnmstances. On the 29th of August the committee came to the determination that the price of the land should be £l2 per square yard, which was confirmed on the 7th of September. On the 19th of September, the improvement committee inet ; they had before been in communication with Mr. Rotheram. Mr. Rotheram might have known on the 19th that the price was £l2. He offers to the committee £lO per square yard. On the same day, £lO 10s. is recorded as au offer trout Mr. Parry, and up to that time he would say that Mr. Rotheram had no claim of courtesy from the committee. He knew that the price was £l2, and he had offered £lO. Another person, on the same day, offered £lO 10s., and therefore he would say that if it was desirable to make any communication with any party, it should have been with both - parties. It appeared to him that there was an error in judgment in not saying to both parties that their offers were declined, £l2 having been fixed. On the following day, Mr. Parry came from the bank and said, " I will give you £12," and he made the offer to an accredited officer. He (lid not think, therefore, that the committee had acted fairly by the bank. The bank had the possession of their ears, they might say, in being the last offerers. In order to stand well with the public, he should move that the sale of land be set aside, or that the report be not received, whichever was the proper mode. 1 he Maroit said it would be impossible for the council not to receive the report of the committee which they had appointed: They could not decline receiving that report which they had authorised the committee to 'nage. The report must stand on the the proceedings. The '1 WN-ct,ERK said the way would be to move that the report of the sale of the Globe Chambers be not confirmed. Mr. BOLTON then moved that the-proceedings of the finance committee, as far as regarded the sale of the Globe Chambers, be not confirmed. formation of the council, and proceeded. He then gave a sketch of the good which had resulted from the throwhig open of the corporation schools, with the system there pursued, deny ing that the bible was excluded, and eulogised Mr. Blacklinrn's statement on the subject. He then went on to speak of the reforms which had been made in . the Court of Requests, and Borough.Ceurte The former had, he said, becine a prejudicial nuisance; the goods of tile peor twin were not unfrequently sacrificed with little benefit to the creditor, and when incarce ration ensued, it was generally at cost to the borough much greater thin the amount of the debt. This court had under gone a thorough reform : in lieu of the then unprofessional commissioners, whose attendance was at all times irregular, a barrister of five years' standing had been appointed, and other salutary changes made, without any additional expense to the borough fund. It had been asserted that the council had dis missed the old and faithful servants of the town, and replaced theist with creatures of their own. Of the officers of the late corperation the first in point of importance was Mr. Foster, the late town clerk. Of his memory he (Mr. W.) wished to say nothing that could wound the feelings of his friends. In their estimate (and he might adopt it) he was a man of great talents and ability, and a decided tory, Mr. Foster's political princi ples were opposed to those of a great majority of the council; he was a strong partizan of the opponents to the great measure of municipal reform, Which the council were elected by the peo ple to carry fully into effect. Could the council in cinntnon prudence have confided in Mr.'Foster ? Could Mr. Foster in honour have accepted that confidence, had it been tendered ? Either he mast net have served the council, or he must have abandoned that party to which he was so strongly attached. Indeed, Mr. Foster appeared to have foreseen this, for it was saidthat he had procured that clause to be introduced into the act, which compensated him for the loss of office and pensioned him for life. Mr, Walttisley went on to state the salary and emoluments of the late Mr. Foster, and to contrast them with the present expenditure in the same offices, whereby . he said a great saving had been effected. The present town clerk had not been selected for any violent partizanship that he had ever exhibited—others had stronger claiins—(hear)—but for his fitness for the office, for his talent, industry, indefatigable zeal and known determination to reform the abuses of the local courts, (The town-elerk here looked unutterable things at his eulogist.) Mr. John Foster, the architect, had been continued, but-at a reduction of his emoluments, which more than pro vided for the services of an efficient surveyor. The former treasurer feeling his inability to perform the duties of his de partment, had retired with a compensation of £SIX) a year. So, far for the patronage of the Towa-hall ; - - now for out of it, Mr. Walmsley then alluded to the appointment of Mr. Hall as stipendiary magistrate, who, by his mode of getting through the business ; had procured a saving of what was more than an equivalent to his stipend. The magistrates' clerks had been appointed . with a considerable saving in their salaries, and in the same manner the receiver of town dues. From this state ment of facts it might be gathered, in answer to " What had the council done?" that they had in their appointment kept in view the fitness et .the, man fur the office, instead of the fitness. of the office for the man; nor had they in one instance selected any relation or dependant of their own. (Mr. Bolton here looked fidgety:) They had displaced only those officers who couleknot be returned either with honour to themselves or ad vantage to the community. They had advanced such officers, without distinction as to political bias. as were deserving. They had, as far as was practicable, abolished leesnis part of the emoluments oftheir officers, and paid them by fixed salarleseThey had, to the extent of their local power, provided for the efficient and prompt administration of justice, and had endeavoured to introduce into the gaol a system of classification and a mode of discipline calculated to reclaim at least the young offenders. Mr. Walmsley went over many other benefits which he said had been conferred, by stating that by their financial arrange. meats, they had saved to the borough fund upwords of 1:10,0(X) per annum. They had thrown open the corporation schools, which had caused the snore general diffusion of the blessings of education, and they had paved the way for the extinction of those sectarian feelings which had given rise to so much bitter ness. (Hear.) These he said were some of the acts of a coun cil popularly elected, and responsible to public opinion. Our local governments were now amenable to the tribunal of the public, and it was satisfactory to a man in a- public trust, to feel that there was abundant security for well doing in the intelli gence and honesty of the community. (Loud cries of " Hear, hoar.") Mr. \Valmsley concluded, by apologising for the length at which he bad spoken, and moving the confirmation of the report of the town dues' committee, which was seconded by Mr. Jordan. Mr. Councillor HOLT said that Mr. Bolton was arguing on the presumption that the improvement committee had offered the land to both parties; but such was not the fact, for they had made a previous offer to Mr. Rotherham. And they must, in the ordinary manner, have concluded that engagement previous to entering into any other. Mr. Councillor Fla tux thought the question had better be settled one wac or the other, and not lose all their time over this question. Mr. Alderman 0. HEYWORTH said the committee had fully investigated the matter, and could not come to any other deter mination than they had done he was persuaded, if they did what was right. Mr. Councillor MORF.CROFT considered when the land had been offered to Mr. Rotherham at £l2 a yard, and he had offered £lO, that it was an abandonment of the treaty. (Hear.) Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN seconded Mr. Bolton's resolu tion. He was of opinion that the sale ought not to be confirmed. Various as the opinions were, and complicated and difficult as the question was, he was of opinion that the sale ought to be set aside and they ought to begin denim. After touch further discussion, Mr. JORDAN, seconded by Mr. BROWN, moved that the report be inserted on the minutes. Mr. Bolton's motion was then put, when there appeared for the motion 20, against it 29. The sale to Mr. Rotherham was consequently confirmed. The following is a list of the division: —For the motion, Messrs. J. Holmes, Horsfall, Thornhill, Sheil, Harvey, Thornely, Barton, Walmslev, Birch, Button, Woolright, Bright, Rathbone, Preston, J. Lawrence, More croft, Blackburn, Evans, Frame, and Bean.—Against the mo tion, Messrs. S. Hope, Logan, Itawdon, M'Gregor, H. Holmes, Rushton, El. Hornby, J. Holt, Earle, Carson, Coglan, Alison, G. Holt, Jordan, Duncan, Blain, 0. leyworth, Moon, Bulley, Barclay, Robinson, Stuart, Booth, Brown, Leathom, J. Smith, Junes, and the Mayon—Against the motion, 29; for the mo tion, 20; majority. 9.,—Absent, Messrs. L. Heyworth, Mellor, Maxwell, Aikin, H. Lawrence, Brocklebank, Roskell, E. Smith, E. Cropper, Leigh, Sandars, J. Cropper, Tayleur, and J. Hornby. Mr. Councillor Hops gave notice of a motion that he would move, at the following quarterly meeting, for the adoption of an uniform system of sale. WATCH COMMITTEE. _ . GENERAL BUSINESS. The MA von said, it having► been intimated to him that Mr. Waintsley wished to express his, opinions at this Council-meet ing, he had departed from his usual course of laying before them the deeuments which had been placed in his hands. The first was a very able letter from a . gointleman of the name of Felton, a surgeon, in Toxteth-park, strongly recommending the raising ef a National Picture Gallery. If it were not so very long he should like much to read it to the Council. It was a very important subject. Mr. Councillor RATHBONE thought it ought to be printed to circulate. Mr. Councillor Hoeft thought the reporters would be glad to get it if it were handed to them. (None of the reporters, how ever, expressed any desire to obtain it.) The next was a letter from Lieutenant Coffin, stating that it was the intention to erect a Naval School (at Greenwich, we understood), and requesting to know if the Corporation would grant any sum towards the erection. (Cries of "No funds ;" "no.") The Mayor said he should reply accordingly. The next was a letter from five medical gentlemen, requesting to be allowed to erect railings in front of the Medical-hall. Referred to the Improvement Committee. The next. were three memorials from the churchwardens and congregations of St. Martin's, St. Michael's, and St. Luke's, very uumerouily signed, and all the same in effect. The con gregations expressed themselves willing to contribute to the maintenance of the choir, but as they took their seats under the understanding that these things were to be provided, they hoped a corresponding reduction would be Made in the rents. The MAYOR said he was of opinion that if the rents were not too low it was but a fair demand as between landlord and tenant. . _ It was resolved, that Mr. Win. Parkinson be appointed to the situation of keeper of the central Bridewell, and that he and his wife fill the situations recently occupied by Mr. and Mrs. Bat cheldor, at the same salary. At a meeting of the committee on the 30th of September, it was resolved to appoint six watchmen to watch the boundaries of Everton.—Confirmed. Mr.llor. BOLTON—" Refer it to the Finance Com mittee, in as much as grinding-stones and slates very often go together." therefore, he should never in such a case hesitate to gratify his own private.feelitsgs in voting. .. „ . Mr. Couneilloi Bt lice begged to propose Mr. Bernard Pyron as.ss fit•and proper person to fill the office. Tile testimonials, which had been read by the Town-clerk, in his favour, most tie perfectly satisfactory as far as regarded the respectability Of his character and Isis competency to fill the situation. He might also say that he had taken some little pains to inquire into his character, and he felt perfectly convinced that if he shoeld be appointed he would be found a diligent and faithful servant of the' public. He need not say that in advocating the applleatioti of this gentleman, he did hot intend to convey the slightest dis respect to Mr. Roscoe. ("No.") He believed every oneaeho was acquainted with Mr. Roscoe was aware that he possessed talents of a very high order which would qualify hint to dis s charge duties much superior to those of the office which he sought. But he did believe that he was very far from being a good man of business. He was of opinion that he was want ing in those habits of business and plodding detail which he -was of opinion were necessary to the fulfilment of the duties of sergeant-at-mace. There were undoubtedly some associations connected with the name of Roscoe which must always reconas mend it, and he felt that nothing could give him greater plea sure than to support Mr. Roscoe on the present occasion. But he was always bound to remember on such occasions that his situation in that council-room did not warrant him in fol lowing the dictates of his private feelings. He was simply there in the exercise of a public trust, and he was bound to discharge it, without favour or affection, for the general welfare of the pub lic. He had heard it said that Mr. Roscoe had peculiar claims on their consideration, because he bad always been devotedly attacheit,to that party of which the majority of that council was composed; but, he must confess, lie could not discover in that circumstance any fair ground to claim his support, in the ab sence of what must be considered the indispensable qualifica tions. Party choice would always be estimated in the sight of the public so lateg only as it was directed to the securing of a cheap and equal and efficient administration of the public offices. But when it departed from that and wandered into sel fish and impure courses it very soon became odious and offen sive. (Hear.) He was perfectly persuaded that if in making appointments of this nature they ever should be governed by their private imptilses, or by their desire to gratify their personal prejudices, that the public would soon conclude that the days of the old corporation were returned again upon them, and that they had been cheated and, inapOseirupon by delusive-promises of reform These considerations were forced upon him, mid his convictions were such- in favour of Mr. Byron that he should record his vote forliiin. Mr. Councillor It ATHBONE here rose and said, " Mr. Birch will not suppose as his speech seems to imply, that those who will have given their votes for Mr. Roicoe will be influenced by such motives." (Cries of " Hear, hear ;" and "the cap fits a little," from Mr. Wm. Earle.) Mr. Councillor BIRCH, in reply, said that his remarks was put so extremely general, that he could not conceive how any individual. could them to himself. He must say that the observations which had occurred to hini were such as ap peared to him suited to the circumstances of the case, and were not intended to apply to any individual whatever. Mr. Councilldr Motteeitoer coincided with Mr. Birch. He thought Mr. Byron a far more fit man than Mr. Roscoe. He had paid great attention to business, and he knew him to be a ' very fit and proper man for the situation. He considered that from his knowledge of the law be was far more fit than Mr. Roscoe. He presumed that Mr. Roscoe had had no acquaint ance with the law for above 3U years, and he considered, also, that his age was rather against his being appointed. Mr. Roscoe was now 54 years of age, and he considered that in a very few years he would have to be supeannuated. He considered that the duties of Sergeant-at-Mace were getting every day of greater importance and ha would have a great deal to attend to, to see that the officers tinder him did their duty. It would be better not to lead hint into a situation in which he would have a con siderable sum of money to pay for their neglect of duty. Under these circumstances he seconded Mr. Birch's nomination with a great deal of pleasure. He might state, in addition, that the attorneys were better able to judge of the capabilities required than most other persons, and many respectable solicitors spoke in favour of Mr. Byron. . The Ma Yoe said he would not give a vote for any person, however interested he might be by lies of friendship,, if he did not understand on good authority that he was fit for the office. When he first had heard that Mr. Roscoe was to he a candidate, he had felt a predisposition to serve him. The first thing he did ,was to consult souse professional man, and ask whether it was an office which Mr. Roscoe could perform. He had said, "Let no leaning on ynur part prevent your mentioning the truth," and he had been informed that he was fully competent, and that there was nothing in the duties which he was not fully able - to fulfil. He was not incompetent on the score of age, for he was only two years older than himself (the Mayor,) and he was as com petent for any duty as ever he was in his life, and in as good health. He could not help feeling, as an inhabitant of Liver pool, that he ought s if he could do so without injustice to the public, to offer a tribute to the tnemory of a man who hail tended to raise the town in an intellectual point of view. He thought they were not doing wrong in gratifying feelings of that descrip tion. He did believe that Mr. Roscoe had that within him which would contradict the charge of those who thought him not fitted for want of energy. He would not allow any consideration to induce him to allow Mr. Roscoe to continue in his situation one day longer than be was fitted for the discharge of his duties. He should, under these circumstances, vote for Mr. Roscoe. Mr. Councillor Suess was very happy te observe that amongst the very many sensible remarks made by Mr. Walmsley there was not one which had been so well received as that which said they had been particularly cautious in their appointments to elect none who were net particularly fitted for the office. Mr. Walmsley had been perfectly right in that assertion: And they were not to go on the probability .of a gentleman being fit for an office when the facts were rather against him. He was per forming a very disagreeable duty, but so long as he was placed there he would fearlessly give his opinion openly upon every subject which was to be brought under consideration. He could not believe that Mr. Roscoe was at all fitted for the situation. He was told that he had acquired a legal knowledge as an appren tice in the office of Mr. Joshua Lace. In God's name what sort of reason was this to offer to sensible men. A man thirty years ago served'an apprenticeshipiOan Office:llld he came now with ' all the knowledge—the very deep knowledge of law which an attorney generally made dining his apprenticeship. He would go further, and say if he did then acquire any knowledge, that it THC DEAD-HOUSE. would be a great injury to him now. The changes which had Mr. Councillor E. SMITH wished to call the attention to the taken place in the law had been so radical and so important as disgraceful state of the place called the Dead-house, in this to render his then acquired knowledge of no use to him now, town. He had been in communicitibn with the Coroner on the if he bad not been so occupied as to keep his mind changing subject, and he agreed.with him that the dead-house was really with the changes. Edery one knew that the greatest difficulty a disgrace to the town of Liverpool. He need scarcely remind • was found in getting rid of preconceived opinions; an d th e r efore the Council that the object of it was to bring bodies found in it Mr. Roscoe had obtained any knowledge of the law at that the river there in order that they might be identified by their time it would be injurious to him. Another reason which had friends. As this was the case, it was obvious it ought to be heed urged in favour of Mr. Roscoe—he could not call it an ar well lighted and ventilated, and easy of access. It was obvious gument—was his connexions. He did not like those allusions that the present dead-house did not fulfil any of those condi- in telling them that men were eminent or illustrious characters. If they were, so much the better. But if Mr. Roscoe were that tiors. It was a place something like a coal-house which was not ventilated nor lighted. It had formerly been ventilated by sterling reformer which he was represented, he (Mr. Shiel) own memory against this proceeding. his a hole at the top—at least he understood au; he had not had an would appeol to above upon themand say, " these opportunity of finding it out himself—(laughter)—so that parties haying to go into that place were nearly poisoned. It path of duty. " This was the point If so, he would look down from p men are swerving from the was also so constituted that the very act of looking in prevented of view in which they ought to put it. He would say that they parties seeing anything, for it excluded the light. (Loud laugh- had no evidence whatever of Mr. Roscoe's fitness — not a shadow ter.) This plate was very similar to an old French Morgue, of evidence, but quite the contrary : they saw there a man who mentioned in "Croft's Travels on the Continent." Mr. Smith had not been eminent in any degree as a man of business. then read an -extract from the above work describing the Mor- Then they were I beg your pardon.")—They were told that it told that the lensiness was not ver y i m p or t a nt. gue alluded to as deprived of air and light, and s o far from c o n- (The Mayor. — " needed no experience, that th e d ut ies of the office were so very tributing to the return of life in any one c arr i e d th ere , it wa s . calculated to make it extinct if it was not so already. Persons simple; because they must be simple unless he allowed super going there to recognise their friends were very liable to inhale natural powers to Mr. Roscoe— en they must be sitnple or he could infections. This exactly suited the description of the Liverpool They t ogive discharging security not easily perform them. had been syhat line of conduct had they dead-house. Independent of this it was a very great nuisancevnerfyrilinairgae in another respect, it was a complete focus for pick-pockets. been pursuing ? situation because he refused these simple a to Ul a n. amount for the performance of dutiest est! simple duties, and he had He never went past the place but he saw a parcel of vagabonds claimed compensation. If the were so very unimportant. looking in to attract others to do so, who very often got their pockets picked. s lie, himself, in coining front the Bath— very unwisely. He thought it was au office of they had acted (laughter)—had frequently preen it. He understood from Mr. very great importance,. and he thought also that it occasion- Currie, the Coroner, that (luring the last five months twenty- ally involved very intricate duties. Then he was told that the three birdies had been placed there, and it was very pi obable a persons whom he might delegate would have the execution of many of them had never been claimed. He thought it very the duties; he would appeal to any man who had the manage indiscreet to strip the bodies, us well as very disgusting. It was meta of a concern, if it were possible to conduct any concern wrong in principle to do so; he hail frequently met persons in if the head were not intimately acquainted with the whole detail. Mr. Coglan's bath—(laughter)—with whom he was well a c - It was quite out of the question—it was out of the nature of quainted, and had not known them they were so altered. (Con- things to expect that any establishment could be well conduct tinned laughter.) In fact, the clothes formed a very essential' ed unless the head knew the detail of the duties to be per part of the man. formed. Then in the execution .of his painful duty—taking Mr. Councillor JOHN HOLMES thought this place was formed this view of the case—seeing that one man had brought them by the parish, and not by the council. testimonials numerously and respectably signed—a man who Mr. Councillor E. SMITH would move that the subject he re- had been ten years in the employment of one solicitor, 6 years ferred to the improvement committee to inquire into. with another, and four years with another, and that the solici- Mr. Alderman RoarNsosr seconded the motion. He believed tors spoke well of him; he did not see how they could possibly Mr. Smith's] description was fully borne out, and it ought to be pass over this man and offer the appointment to another from examined into. whom they had no such recommendat tons. Mr. Councillor Hoee•said the subject was a very important The'Alivoit said he must say one word in explanatiOn. He one. (Impatient cries of "bring it before the improvement would appeal to the gentlemen who had heard him if he had committee.) He would recommend that attempts should be said anything calculated to lead to the impression alluded to made to recussitate the bodies, nothing was now attempted, by Mr. Shiel, when he was alluding to the internal arrange- The MAYOR.—Mr. Hope had better suggest this to the inn- ments of the office, he had said that the sergeant would not provement committee; he was a member of it. have to arrest personally. He also begged to add that the ser- Mr. Alderman Brown said probably Mr. H o p e was not aware geant would be called on to see that his bailiffs gave proper se that the Northern Hospital was very near, vihe - uft '. ' le surgeons were c 1 ) always at hand. Mr. Councillor E. SMITH could not allow what Mr. Shiel The 141avoir said he was very glad Mr. Smith had not been had said. to pass without notice. Mr. Shiel had said there was aware that the dead-house was at the charge of the p arts •h or something ad captanduin in the statements relating to M r. , they should have lost his speech. Roscoe. Was there not something similar in his own state r!. he motion that the subject be referred to the improvement ment, in appealing to the memory of Mr. Roscoe—that h e ivas n i• co mmittee to inquire into was t h en con fi rmed. looking down on them—that they. were going to de somethil... SERGEANT-AT-MAcE. wrong? He felt confident that he was fully capable for the The MAYOR said the next subject was tl appointment ffi -• dtht h• - - d• l•fi •ation le of o ce, att a is age %%as no tsqua 1 s • Had not the s ergeant-at-mace. Gray, who was government of the counts} given to Lord h . The TOWN - el•Enx then read an application for the offiee; ten years older? As to any 'Man looking down en them, i signed by Mr. W. S. Roscoe, of Upper Parliament -street, beg- had only one being looking down on him whom he fea'red, and ging to offer himself as a candidate for the office, and that he that was God. He was as independent as Mr. Shiel, or any should endeavour, if appointed, to curtout the • 'ofelse, in 'mind, and that account , y the new act. , ' Mr. Roscoe on a former occasion. But he thought it was right Another application-was read, signed by Mr. Wm. Harvey, in before they took g us h very r. m. arvey, in persons ßlC high gHe knewround to tell them of West Derby-str ee t, o ff er i ng hi mse l f as a can di date. w h ere i n M r. Roscoe' was pot competent. (I-lear.) Another applicati on was read, signed by Mr. Burnard Byron, Mr. Roscoe to be a man of eminent talents, and he did think of Exchange-all e y, offering himself as a candidate, and stating that he only wanted opportunity to bring and tose talents out. that he had be e n manager o f a so li c i tor ' s o ffi ce for a number of Mr. Roscoe had been subdued i n spirit, I m Let them they all knew years. Enclosed was - a test i mon i a l o f h i s fi tness for the 'office, what effect this had on a man's character.give him signed by a numb er o f t h e so li c i tors of the town. - an o pportunity and see what ther e was which he could not do Another application was read, signed by Mr. John Dixon • uld appeal to ip this paltry office. Ile AU, the council if the Hore, of 14, Caz ueau - s t reet, offering himself for the office, or opinions of the Mayor, of Mr. Ilathbone, and o f M r. E arle if he should n o t be appointed, offering himself also as trea- were not as go od on this ? point as these of Mr. Birch, M r . Shi e l ,. surer for the C ourt of Requests. A number of accompanying and of Mr. Morecroft He could not eoincide in th e observe testimonials were read, lions of Mr. Shiel, that there was anything in the legal know- The MAYOR sa id h e h ad rece i ved a letter, s i gned " Henr v ledge which he m i g ht have acquired that he would be th e worse M'Alliste r ," apply i ng f ur a V acancy which he understood was to - for; and there was nothing in law which a man might not ac he filled up that day, but not statingwhat. He offered himself quire front books. (Uh rs.) for any of the va canc i es t o b e fill e d up. (A l aug h . ) M r . Councillor BLAEKBURN really mu s t say, t h at from both Mr. Councillor fIoPE inquired what the salary was to be. (A th e spee ch o f Mr. Shell and Mr. Birch it would appear as if laugh.) persons were going to be influenced to give their votes for a The Myron said it had already been fixed, sometime ago. person who was incompetent, or not so competent as to be able to fill the situation. Let gentlemen urge their own opinions, The TOWN-cLERK replied that the salary was £350 per an- n those of num, out of which the sergeant was to provide a clerk. to he but not impugn those wereothers. He must say, that the argo n, ment of Ir. Sheil calculated to produce the impression— approved of by the council, or a committee of the council. ' wards • the eayment ; of the clerk's salary an allowance of 1:25 a- they would produce the Impressi t a d for Mi ltos ou out of doors—that those who Year was to be made by the council, in consideration of which a ( n ) d that thetief coe voted out of private friendship and party, the clerk was to do the duty of crier of the court. ore they voted as they ought not to have done. As he was on his legs th Mr. Cou ' z ne.llor RATHBoNE begged to propose Mr. Roscoe as l a w requisite for the discharge the would allow him to ask what was the a fit and competent person to fill the office. In doing this he tlemen talked of the knowle dge of law requisite as if the know was quite aware that he was subjecting himself to some misre- ledge of the whole of En English w were wanted. Surely that presentation. He also felt that Mr. Roscoe was the son of a was not necessarf to y or the offic Sergeant at Mace ? If they man to whom the town of Liverpool was much indebted. He wanted to en likewise felt that his friendship for Mr. Ilesroe might mislead different. All the some barrister on any question it would be his judgnient, and he had, therefore, applied to a gentleman on easily the knowledge of law requisite might be very whose Judgment he could confide, whether he was right in think late acquired.,. Mr. Sheil had alluded to the dismissal of the ing Mr. Roscoe ft for the office. That gentlemen had assured In , o cer. The errpro sureties were required of that il. h a d ual- not becaus • t • bl•t• • • •t d t out, him that he thouil i t he was fitted for the situation, ant. .ie . then felt himself at liberty to propose him. At the same time because (Hs very large sums of money had to pass through his be would say, in being the humble advocate of Mr. Roscoe, or 'ar.) He must say in recording his vote for Mr. ltoscee, of any one; lie should feel it to be his duty if they • did not satin- that he did it under the impression that he was as competent for . .• the office as individualit hadoffered himself for it, and factorily fill the /ek e to bring their condUct before the r ruttish, any iv ho (Hear.) and if they did not retire to require their dismissal. He need that on peculiar grounds lie was entitled to a preference. Ma il e would, say that, in order to clear themselves from any only state that Mr. Roscoe had been four years in Mr. Lace's lace Mr. Roscoe in office. He thouslit gentlemen would allow that a man of ta- •" r ; picion re piny motives, they ought pot to p . s. the Were they, nom lent and a man of humanity was peculiarly required for the a worse position tines, t he other man. d them, to be office, He mightalso state that Mr. Roscoe was prepared with fear of having improper motives impute . to ct. . `vote !") red from acting justly ? (" Hear," and cries deter the required sureties. taken, when there ap- Tbe votes for each party were then Mr. Councillor EA it LE said he was not aware that it was ne- peered cessary that them gentlemen should be proposed ; however if For Mr. Roscoe—Messrs. J. H o lmes, Horsfall, Harvey, E. Holt Walmsley, that was to be the plan he had great pleasure in seconding his Smith, Thoruely, Rawdon, Barton, H. nes, rnby, Rathbone Preston, Roscoe, Mr. Rat/11)41e. He had a very 'great wish to serve MI. Bolton, Woollright, Bright, H. Ho . , , , Alison, G. Holt, Sandals, Roscoe and or al of whom he had inquired they had told him I'. Holt, Earle, Carson, Blackburn, "' that Mr. R o s c oe e a s perfectly qualified for the situation, and, J. Cropper, Jordan, Evans, Blain,. Hey worth, Hevworth, MOOD, Bulky, IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE The proceedings of this committee, which were not of much public importance, Were confirmed. TOWN-HALL COMMITTEE. Resolved, that the usual liveries be ordered, as it appeared that :hey were wanted.—Coufirtned. MARKET COMMITTER. The proceedings of this committee were ordered to be con firmed. EDUCATION COMMITTEE. The requestivrthe members of a christiaii Society, Tor the use of the Corporation Schools on the Sunday mornings and after noons, was refused. Resolved, that Mr. Wilderspin's engagement he continued till October next, and that he be paid £lOO above what it was agreed to give him.—Confirmed. CUSTOM-HOUSE COMMITTER, The progress of the building of the New Custom-house was reported. Mr. Alderman LEATHOM begged to ask in what state the Custom-house was. It was a question very much asked, when this building would be ready fur the public. The MAYOR said it was stated that the left wing had been given up to government three months ago. , The corporation, had done their part of the work, and it now remained for govern ment to complete it. Mr. Councillor JORDAN, as chairman of the committee, stated that the works had been delayed from the want of proper ar rangement in London, but the putting ❑p of the fixtures would shortly be completed. The_ customs had applied for a renewal of their lease for the present Custom-house for six months lon ger, in anticipation that the New Custom-house would nut be completed in time.t—Confirmed. DOCK DUES COMMITTEE. The proceedings of this committee, which were not important, were confirmed. WHAT HAVE THE COUNCIL DONE ? The MAYOR called upon Mr. Councillor WA LMSLEY, who advanced to the mayor's table, and pulled a roll of paper out of h is p ocket, which, having spread out on the town-clerk's desk , he p roceeded to le ad with a sermon monthly meetingke delivery pr ev Otsusfotlolorlise:—'rhepresent being th e l ast annual appeal to their consti tuents, it might not he an unfitting occasion to offer some re marks on the IRAs of the council, during their brief petiod of office, and he was satisfied it would not be considered trespass ing on their time to take a cursory review of their proceedings during the last few months. Before entering upon this, they must permit him to congratulate them upon the cordial good feeling which had pervaded their deliberations, and especially upon the liberal manner in which those members who, on some occasions entertaining adverse opinions, had conceded to the majority of the council. What had the new council done ? was the question confidently asked by the opponents of the munici pal reform. He would give an answer to this; but first he would take a brief survey of the difficulties which had beset them on their entrance upon their duties. The corporate offices were filled by persons hostile to popular rights. Almost every de partment of local government was deffective. A profuse and extravagant expenditure pervaded it. Establishments were supported at more than double the sums which they had since cost, and large amounts were annually paid for the support of churches, and their incumbents, which payments if even legal could not conscientiously be recognised by the members of the present council. Nor were they including t he £105,000 for en dowment, well calculated to further the inte rests of religion. Each of the corporate churches were losing from £4OO to £6OO per annum, without any reference to the interest of the money expended in erecting them, while others,under private patronage, were paying a handsome income to the minister, beside support ing schools and paying a high rate of interest tothe proprietors. The church of St. Andrew's might be adduced as an example it paid good interest to the proprietor, and supported tyro schools after paying £4OO stipend to the minister. But the minister of this church was selected by a private individual, performed his duty and did not engage in party purposes. (Hear.) The corpor ate schools, though maintained at great cost, had been limited t ; _, the education of the children of the established chureh• he administration of justice in the police offices was inefficient and unequal, and particularly as regard the docks, was most un-: satisfactory to the public. The management of the g aol Was' equally bad; while a police force, exclusive of th e ni g ht l y watch, was maintained at an amount of cost of up wards of £BOOO, without benefit to the community, bribed by th e publi cans to an extent of £lOOO to £l2OO annually, rather for the en couragement than the suppression of thieves and disorderly houses ; on account was given of the property received and the force was conducted generally with a laxity of discipline the most discreditable. The new council found themselves sur rounded by servants with the majority of whom they had scarcely one object in common, who were disposed to view them as intru ders and oppressors, and had so intrenched themselves behind the barriers of legal compeusion as to enaule them to treat the representatives of the community, if not with insolence, at least with indifference. Thus cirtumstanced, it could not be matter of surprise that the council wanted information which nothing short of personal labour and the most rigid inquiry could elicit, and hence a great number of committees were constituted. Mr. Walmsley here enumerated the various committees, amounting to eighteen, with the number of times each had sat, and the num ber of persons of which each consisted. The watch committee. it appeared, had sat, up to that moment, 208 times. Many 0 1 these, he said, had been sub-divided, and for one meeting of the general committees there had been three sub-committees. The The time and talents of the members of the council had been exerted to the utmost day and night for the public good, and to deserve the honour, and the confidence of the public. What, then, were the 'results of all this labour? To form a new police was one of their first acts, and one which brought upon them in no orclinarydegree the vituperative abuse of the enemies of reform. Its promoters had been held up as tyrants and oppressors. Its probable cost was grossly exaggerated, and its members vilified. l'he tory prints made incessant attempts to weaken, if not des troy its efficiency. (Hear.) The want of an efficient day police had ben felt by the old council, and a bill had been framed in 1834, which, with the existing establishments, would have cost e ci x a c a much larger sum th an th at now ex i st i ng . Th e s ums before expended were Nightly watch 8000 „ And the !ld advancedt cost of fur a total s O le r i t ) h r e e e proposedllt optx olpolice addition : leereo ha annum nf consisted sn ti,end whereas e f f4; is r a day , s: ehe aad tnl dg . tsi ti a : f o men, and exended over nearly double the space. was £24,000. It had been asserted that this force would cost f..40,0(.X) per au num. It was a satisfaction to know that so far the expense had never exceeded the estimate. Mr. Walmslev then alluded to the number of thieves detected, the great decrease in the num ber of serious robberies, the check kept over disorderly public housesfaen the last order r ti rl u e a r r tmaintainedr ury atthethg and to the corn plimant paid to the yew force in the present- The MAYOR here interrupted Mr. Whalmsley. He took it sessiins . in for granted that he meant to conclude with a resolution, otherwise this proceedin gs wool ( ' be irrevola r. the town ; Mr, elltineillOY WA) tif,SLF,Y eIMMiMtICCI Abet it tsar for the in- k f ~G ` ~~ i ", • ,••••••,. n Frame, Barclay, Robinson, Stuart, Booth, Brown, Leathont , • and the. Mayor. . For y.tork—Nl essrs.'rltorn hill, Shed, Birch, J.Lawrence, Las Sell, Moruci•-nri, and Beim, Fur Mr. ltoscue, 31; fur Mr. Byron, 7—majority, 30. Mr. Alderman BEN:is then inozed an adjournment till Mon day,l • • • • • • • at eleven o the t”t.,-las are to be guue into ; .and the Council separaod at klall-past three o'clock. MOLD, FLINT, AND KING'S FERRY TURNPIKE -140 D. • . The committee appointed for determining the tale for a new turnpike-road from King'S Ferry to one of the lower ferries on the River Mersey, held a meeting on the 12th instant, (Lord Mostyn in the.shair,) at the Hawarden Castle Inn, King's Ferry, when h very detailed plan of the parcels of land through which the intended road should be carried, as partially agreed upon at the general public meeting of those interested in the undertaking, was laid before the meeting by Mr. Boydell, land surveyor, and a full statement made by that gentleman of the receipts and disbursements of the trustees of the Holywell, Flint, and King'S Ferry turnpike-road. It appeared that the tolls on that road, a few years ago only, amounted to about £209 amitially, and that they have, in consequence of the va rious improvements of the road. and particulaily as regards that useful invention by Mr. Boydell, the floating-bridge at King's Ferry; increased to the • amount of 11:2,0u0 per annum. The surveyor informed the committee that the purchase of the land necessary for forming the road and the Cost of labour and ma terials for making it a good Mail road, would befrom £ll,OOO to £12,000, and that after paying the interest of the mortgage money, and the expenses:of „keeping the road in. repair, there would be a surnlus of ;,bout. £5OO per annum ; and this surplus would, in all reasonable probability, in . afew years be doubled in amount, in consequence of such improvement, so that in a very limited period the tolls would pay off the mortgage, and give the public the benefit,of .this very useful projected line of road at the mere expense of keepieg it ip good repair. A letter from a gentleman interested in the intended mail-road between • Chester and Birkenhead was read by Mr. Roberts, the law-clerk to the committee ' and in that letter an opinion was expressed that the old road leading throUgh .Cailenhiirsi,:with a little va riation might be used to foim a junctinn•with the rail-road, and by such means a communication would be made between the principality and the great central . rail-roads in Etigland, but the committee were decidedly adverse to this, and it was at length concluded that the line surveyed by Mr. Boyden should be unless upoiiii further survey lie should think that it deviation near Bebbington, as pointed out by some laud-owners in that neighbourhood, should be desirable. The committee will meet again, to-morrow, finally to fix upon the line and to give M r. Roberts instructions to prepare a hot Cur the next,ses sion of Parliardeut. An anonymous letter was rilitten to the. chairman. shrinking, that Mr. I3oydell had been swayed in his opinion on forming the line se as to come out on the Chester and Birkenhead road, opposite the hock Ferry, by the proprie . . - tin of that ferry This Mr. Boy ! tell without hesitation contra dicted, and said he did nut even know who were the proprietors of that ferry. and that the only object he had in view in his sur vey was to point out the nearest and cheapest line of road, with out reference to the interests of any of the ferries, and in which statement he was borne out by the noble chairman. , COUNCILLOR E. SMITH AND E. WESTON, ESQ. " Scinditur incertum studia in contratia volgus." TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANIMRD. very singular, yet very significant letter, with a very singular, vet very significant editorial 'introduction, appears in the• telt Liverpool Mercury. The profound epistle is owned by `• Edward Weston." There are two or three points in it that Might to be noticed. One is, that the said Edward Weston, Esq., a blazing radical, was the main instrument in returning Mr. Egerton Smith to the council of this town. This fact is notorious in certain quarters; but it ❑ow appears evident to all the world from the circumstance, that Mr. Weston, and not Mr. Sinith, is consulted and harrassed in the perplexities that occur in the ward. The other point is not a little vexatious to our "might-be" councillor; for from his own unsolicited testi mony it appears that he is losing all his influence, in conse quence of that part of the constituency which he weilded turning to toryism. 0 tempura. 0 morcx! He states, with evident re , luctance. that one turns tory for one reason, and another for another reason; but, alas! he cannot see that any reason cad be sufficient to turn a destructive into a conservative. And who wonders? He may talk and write as Much us he pleases about "milk and water reformers," but he may rest assured that all sensible men will follow the dictation of interest; and if his constituency expect to promote their interests (however insigni ficant those interests may appear to him) by abandoning the clans of the destructives, they will abandon them; and when men better understand their own interests and those of the coun try, they will no longer be gulled• by the machinations of the soi-disant reformers. The editorial note alluded to becomes quite transparent when the case is fully opened. Who would nut strive to please such a mice-influential man as Mr. Weston ? MEUNIER. October 12, 1836. LIVERPOOL OPERATIVE CONSERVATIVE DINNER.—It will be seen that the members of this association intend having their annual dinner, on Friday next, on which occasion, we have no doubt, the eminent public characters, who have promised to dine with the tradesmen, will be present. LIVERPOOL TRADESMEN'S CONSERVATIVE DINNER.—We understand that the following distinguished individuals have announced their intention to be present at the dinner, on Tues day next: Viscount Combermere, Lord Sandon, the Hon. C. J. Canning, W. E. Gladstone, Esq., J. Entwistle ' Esq., Fox holes, and the honourable members for the city of Dublin. PITT-STREET WARD.—A meeting of the conservative elec tors of this ward was held on Tuesday last, at Fernyough's lintel, Duke-street, which was numerously and most respect ably 'attended. Mr. Bibby, the candidate, was introduced, and addressed the meeting at some length. Tlie best feeling prevailed, and active measures are taking to secure Mr. Bibby's election. EXCHANGE W A ED.—A numerous meeting of the electors of this ward took place at the Wellington Hotel, on Monday evening last, for the purpose of adopting means for securing the election of Thomas Sands, Esq., as a councillor for that ward. J. B. Br:tricker, Esq., occupied the chair. Mr. Sands addressed the meeting in a very able speech, which was received with loud cheers. In answer to a question from Mr. Byfbrd, he declared himself to be a staunch friend to the established clitirch, and to every other institution of the country. The committee meet every Monday and Thursday evening for the tram:laical of business. Mu. G. HOLDEN.—The members of the Liverpool Choral Society invited their conductor, Mr. George Holden, to a din ner, at which fifty of the members were present, and there pre sented him with a splendid gold snuff-box, filled with coins of the same precious metal. The Mowing copy of the inscription on the lid will explain their motives for taking this step:— ' "Presented to Mr. G. Holden, in admiration of his talents as a chorus master, by the members of the Liverpool Chorus Society engaged at the festivals of MG." They felt that the unwearied assiduity which he has so constantly shown in adVancing their improvement and forwarding their interests deserved some ac knowledgement; and we trust the example will be imitated by others in Liverpool who are interested, as touch as the society itself in having an effective body of chorus singers, and should, therefore, do all they can to encourage their improvement. Tn 1:11 EA TR E. Roy A L.—The public have had a rich and con tinuous treat afforded them during the past week by the engage ment of Mr. and Mrs. Wood at this theatre.. Mr. Brough has also been engaged, and with this ;vlitional musical force a series of operas have been got up. On Tuesday, we witnessed "the Maid of Judah," an opera, the plot of which is taken from Walter Scott's "Ivanhoe." Moe. Wood performed as Rebecca, and we scarcely ever saw her to greater advantage. As an actress she is infinitely improved, and played extremely well. We need hardly say that as alongstress she has scarcely a rival. During the evening she sung with her accustomed beauty of expression and fine silvery tone ; especially in the recitative and air " Fortuue's Frown," which was exquisitely sung. A quartett, by Mr. and Mrs. Wo od, Mr. Brou g h, and Mr.bflorneastle, " Hush the Alarm," was the finest musical performance of the evening. The modulation and harmony Were most beautiful. Mr. Brongh's fine bass voice told well. In the opera of" Fra Diavolo," performed on Wednesday night, we must not omit to notice the superior acting of Mr. G. Horn castle, as Lord Allcash ; as a singing actor we have not seen his equal. The houses hav e been full each n i g ht. T HE Citoesr, SocieTY's Coiscem—Last evening the Choral society held its second public performance this year, at added t h e Amphitheatre. The committee of the l a t e M us i ca l Festi val had allowed their fittings up of this theatre to remain to ac emtnefT ;t h s conductor, t o t h e ap pearance ctntn° da t e o httii Chor a le house. G S ocl‘i ety, which H ch ol dei i a u ud Mr. G. Byton as leader of the band. A number of selec tions front Handel and Haydn, &c. were performed, and gene rally went off with erica. A chorus in the first from p part .ro Haudel, "May no rash intruder," w as extremely well sung, as were indeed the whole of the choruses. Mr. Pemberton gave with good effect a scene from . Calcolt, " All ttordlv shapes." The solo from Handel, " Honour and arms scorn such a foe," by Mr. C. Davies, was brilliantly sung and met with an encore. The succeeding chorus from Handel, " Music spread thy voice around," is a sweet und u l at i ng movement, aril the instrumen tation was exquisitely performed and told well with the chorus. n mighty pens," front Haydn's "Creation," was sung by ..Miss Leach with - plaintive sweetness. • The double chorus front Handel, " Praise the Lord" which concluded the first part, was also very brilliantly given. The solo " Gratias animus tibi." by Mrs. Hiles, with clarionet obligato, was sung very sweetly, and met with an enrol,. It is a very beautiful legato movement. Handers song, •‘ Angels ever bright and fair," by Mrs. Dalton, was also-well given. The performers laboured rather under a disadvantage, from following so imme diately on the festival, which has tendered the taste of the pub• lie somewhat nice. The whole, however, passel very well off. We have been obliged to refrain from giving a lengthened critique from the lateness of the hour. The theatre was crowded. DErtsiarint,s CIRCUSISTANCE.—On Tuesday last, while four men were employed in warebousifig some Turpentine, in Henry street, at a bonded store, they discovered a small cask of refuse Rum, which had been lying by fir upwards of nine years.— Th e y a ll drank to excess of the liquor until they were in a state of insensibility. The carter, Wm. 'Tarlton, was in so de plorable a state, that he was obliged to be conveyed to the Me dical Library, in Suffolk-street, where •Mr. GeOrg a Rogerson, the surgeon, was called in. Having applied the stomach pump to the unfortunate man, tipwatds 'of a pint 'and a ballot* fluid was drawn from his stomach, strongly of spirits. The applica tion of the machine not proving available in restoring ani,ma tint], other means were resorted -to, but without success. Ihe man died in the course of the night. A coroner's inquest was held on the body yesterday, when a ver dict was irturned, by the jury, under the direction of the coroner, of "died under the visitation of God." • i• ' ,ill awroeiye by an advertise- Invalids visiting the metropolis i - „ o n ( , . - w uk t, of Holborn-bill, .ro rrn-miii, -who, ment in another ci,lumn, that Air. some years' since founded the London institution for the Re coveryl rged his town residence, l v iing tn a_i re e4t e e et n a ' s b iv i :e e Ii f Health. has lately taking an adjoiiiing range of apartments, yti:eii—ltiei.hneial=dies 'll'oeirtni:ltz persons visiting Loudon. . a nd . w . ..hich will t Le .. found "Peculiarly ~ in „ d id s r epairing t t o nd tneore metropolis for thefproumrpotislee adapted 1 medical advice, ; (if we may judge gentlemen that have been attached to Mr . 14 f receiving names of the medical Wray's establishment) is of the first older, and most talented descr i p tion. Mr. N . V . ray has also, we understand, asuite eof residence; Ash-ill -house Bat at his country apartments to let tersea-fields, where every comfort, and. the first . e ' medical assist ance is afforded, with the enjoyment of . uriant landscape scenery, and a pure atm os ph ere , lux delectable views of that noble river—Thames —so beautifully eulogised But what we consider the nerally, and reflects the. l, advanta g e to the ,public ge- Mr. Wray, is, the o greatesi credid on• the philanthropy of of consulting the irtimity afforded to all classes of .persons their hours of Pysicians turd surgeons, by calling during attendance. ‘ ' Paisoii THouG H • that, the architect of Philadelphia . Saturday News, says o one of 'the i pr.sous in that city.was. lately : told by a prisoner that he did trot know his business, or'he would. not have built tl said he, "there lies cells of solitary cOnfinement :square ;: ".fur," something to break the monotony-there is a corner upon which " l n s iet fix ' • is sail my eve, it an object:. 1-lad you made them found, I should ' •• ' • have gone crazy in a week."