The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1842-11-11 00:00:00

l e 00(- 1 man i f lovei l he m os. , e. T he ms base ,st, and 'esirable NT°, o r P °rifp• attrac• extra ct ,y a re: ports of t pcto• Total. 242,_ n 3 00 114, 6 w 127,50 a poliCf p ac ing that the Lf a Mr. es, M rs ' ess, lied theY 3eorge - Wog the Ir state :else el' ould be ted if be Wardle e up th e c urred Mingal e, could do se sur°,,;" mo uld, 'ould be, • THE LIVERPOOL TIMES AND THE EDGE-LANE FOOT. amss.—The Liverpool Times, always wiser and more origi nal than the rest of the world, has the following sage remarks upon the recent robberies in Edge-lane :—" SUPPOSED AT TEMPT AT ASSASSINATION.—SeveraI circumstances have recently taken place in the neighbourhood of the Old Swan which have led to the supposition that a gang of footpads are infesting the neighbourhood, and our yesterday's contem porary gives an account of a brutal assault committed upon one gentleman, which it supposes was committed by this gang with a felonious intention only. We have been informed that the occurence in question was not, as it is denominated, a highway robbery of Mr. Kilshaw ; but that the assailant of that gentleman mistook him for another individual, whom, for private reasons, they meant to assassinate."—" The as sailant mistook Mr, Kilshaw for anothor individual whom , THEY MEANT to assassinate!" Pray, how has the Times, or his informant, become aware of this fact, and what does the law consider a man who is thus cognizant of crime and the intentions of the criminals? Perhaps, Mr. Dowling will inform us, after he has, as it is his clear duty to do, waited upon our brother journalist for an explanation of the source of his knowledge of the doings of these midnight assassins ! SUICIDE BY A FEMALE.—An inquest was yesterday held, before Mr. Curry, on view of the body of Alice Thompson. It appeared from the evidence, that the deceased lived by herself, in a house in Bedford-street, Toxteth-park. On • Wednesday afternoon she was observed by a female who knew her (a dress-maker) to be labouring under very de pressed spirits, and was heard to say that she would die— : making allusion to being " slighted" by a gentleman whom she named, and to whom she appeared to have formed a strong attachment. She appeared to be affected by liquor at - , the time. The young woman, and another who also saw her on the same day in a similarly desponding state, enlieavoured to dispel such thoughts from her mind, and left her without thinking she contemplated anything desperate. At a late hour in the afternoon, however, it appeared she took a large quantity of laudanum, and soon after, calling a person in whom she knew, said she was going to die, and, begging she would not let her die in the lower part of the house, run up stairs to bed. She became very ill and insensible ; surgical assistance was procured, and the stomach-pump applied ; but all efforts to save her were in vain, and she died at two o'clock yesterday morning. It did not appear that the individual to whom she had frequently alluded, in speaking to her ac quaintances maltreated her. A half-pint bottle that had contained laudanum was found under the grate in one of the rooms. — The jury returned a verdict to the effect, that the deceased destroyed herself by drinking laudanum, while labouring under temporary insanity. INQUEST.—A CHILD KILLED BY A SPRING CART.—On Tuesday, and by adjournment on Wednesday, an inquest was held before Mr. Curry, borough coroner, on view of the body of William Williams, a child of eight years old. It appeared, from the evidence first adduced, that on Saturday afternoon the deceased, who hada bundle under his left arm, had occa sion to cross Park-lane, near Tabley-street. Two carts were going down the street at the time, and the deceased was pass ing behind the last and had cleared it. when a spring cart, which was a short distance, came up at a smart trot, and be fore he could get out of the way, he was knocked down and trampled upon by the horse that drew it. The deceased was immediately picked up much injured, and was taken to the dispensary, where he was attended to, but had received such injuries that he died on Monday. Several of the witnesses attributed great blame to the driver, who was in the cart, with the reins in his hand, but in such a position that he could not see what was immediately before him ' or have proper command of the horse. It was also statad that he continued to drive on, and did not stop till he was called to do so at some distance from the spot. In consequence of Mr. M'Clellan, the surgeon of the dispensary, being unable to state the peculiar cause of death (though he spoke of several severe injuries) without a post mortem exami nation, the case was adjourned. The witnesses on Wednesday (who were not called by the coroner) gave a good deal of evidence of a nature contradictory to that stated—being to the effect that the driver had shouted twice to the child to get out of the wly ; that he was not driving so fast as spring carts usually go; that the horse never trotted at a rate of more than four, or at the utmost about five miles an hour ; (!) and that the driver stopped immediately, and did not go on until some bystanders told him to do so. Amongst those who stated that the driver was not at all to blame, was a police-constable named Wood.—Dr. M'Clellan being re called, said that he had found on an examination of the body, that the cause of death was rupture of the liver, caused by external violence. The majority of the jury were for a con siderable time in doubt whether they should not return a verdict of manslaughter ; but eventually found, that the de ceased came to his death by accident—to which verdict, how ever, they affixed a deedand of £5 on the horse. The cart and horse are the property of a tea-dealer residing at Kirk dale, and the driver gave his name as David M'Kee. CAPTAIN KINNAIRD AGAIN.—The name of Captain Kinnaird (we have before had it " Kennard," must be fresh in the recollection of our readers, as connected with his voyage home from Tampico, as commander of the brig Thomas. Several cases having recently been brought against him for unwarrantable treatment of his crew. Yesterday he was again brought before Mr. Rushton, but on a minor charge—that of refusing to pay the wages of his mate, Eleasar Colthurst, for an assault upon whom be had last week to pay £5. The applicant claimed the sum of £l7 18s. 9d.—a ba lance of wages alleged to be due to him from the 7th March, when the vessel left this port, until his discharge, on her re turn, on the 28th ult. Complainant (a young man, for whom Mr. Owen appeared) said be went out as mate, and had been in the same capacity before, in two other vessels. The dates of departure and arrival were then proved and admitted. Mr. Wardle again appeared for the Captain, and stated that his defence was the general incompetency of the complainant. The log-book was brought as one portion of the evidence in support of this averement ; but Mr. Rushton said that he had before decided in a former case, relative to the defendant, that it could not be received. Mr. Wardle then questioned the applicant with a view to prove that on one occasion when he had the helm the vessel had got aback. The witness said that she was close hauled at the time, and was only "shak ing " on the wind, (a common occurrence, sometimes not to be avoided). He next questioned him as to taking a piece of beef from the ship after her arrival here. Witness said that there was a boiled piece, of about 3 lb. weight, in the fore castle, and it being iu an offensive state, he gave it to a poor man. Captain Kennard was then sworn, and stated that the applicant was generally incompetent, and that the crew themselves had complaiueu of him. He, however, could specify no particular instance, and the only witness called by him was, a cook and steward, who had gone the outward voyage, was put into gaol at the other side for misconduct, and could mot be taken as a judge of seamanship, Mr. Rushton said, the case attempted against the mate was one of the cruelest he had yet heard. He (Mr. Rushton) had already fined the defendant .E 5 for assaulting and maltreating the applicant ; and if the poor man Gray, (who jumped over board,) had been alive, he would probably have sent him for trial to the Old Bailey. The wages must be paid. The mate heeded in his account, and the captain another. In the lat ter the charges for sundry articles (including two parrots) appealed to be very exorbitant, but most of them were sub mitted to by the plaintiff under advice. A charge was also made of £7 and odd for a watch sold to complainant by the Captain, but it appeared that the captain had got it back, wore it on the homeward voyage, and still had it in his pos session ! This charge was of course not allowed ; and the full amount claimed by the mate, (Xl7 18s. 9d.,) after de ducting the charges of the captain, was ordered to be paid. DESPERATE AND UNPROVOKED ASSAULT.—On Wed nesday four men, Luke Nugent, Robert Walsh, Patrick White, and Michael Levi were placed at the bar of the Police-court, on a serious charge of assaulting Mr. Nelson Waterson, a publican in Vauxhall-road, in his own house, and also another person, his relative.—Mr. Waterson said, , that about six o'clock on Tuesday evening the four prisoners and another man came up to the bar. He told them he was not yet selling drink—that he was not ready to do so—and requested them to go out. He had men at work painting at the time. They refused to go, and he sent for a constable, , but a considerable time elapsed before he came, and he got a stick from his wife, and called his brother who was in the house. Further endeavours were made to induce them to , depart, but without avail. The prisoners Welsh and Nugent then snatched the stick from him, and he was struck with it several times on his head, so that he became insensible. Others of the prisoners struck him with their hands, and he Pnally made his escape behicd the counter. His brother-in- L aw, John Hignett, was then upon the floor, and one of the Prisoners was striking him with the stick and broke it. The others were kicking him. Witness went behind, and called out " murder" from a window. On returning belew, he found the prisoner Walsh taking jugs and glasses, and when he approached him he (Walsh) threw them at him. He afterwards learned that the prisoners were in custody ; and was certain the prisoners (whom he saw at Bridewell) Were the men.—John Hignett said, he was in the house at the time. He was upstairs when the prisoners began the 11 ,firay, and was called down by Mrs. Waterson. He en qeavoured to persuade them to go out, as the house was not r eady for customers, and opened the door for them, when ° Pe of them struck him with his fist and knocked him down. 4 4 he fell he took hold of Nugent, and they both fell together. He wa s afterwards kicked and knocked senseless, and did Vknow how the prisoners left the house. He recollected alsh having a quart pewter measure in his hand, which he Ihrew at Waterson, but it caught his (witness's) elbow. He r"lt blood flowing from his left shoulder.—Ellen Jones, who . 7 es in the cellar below, heard the disturbance, and, on ‘ u lne up, saw Walsh inside with a tahle-knife in his hand, bus he twisted about, and said, " l'm the man for doing ness."—Mrs. Waterson was present when the prisoner 2atne in. She corroborated her husband's evidence. After her husband and brother escaped, she saw Walsh break the Passes on the gas-lights, and pull down the fittings. Walsh thew two jugs and several glasses at her brother when he as turning the gas off at the meter. He also opened the door, kicked a panel in, and broke several pains of glass. She followed Nugent and held him until a constable came up.— Mr. Henry Langley, a druggist in a shop in the street, hear -8 of the disturbance, went and heard the glass breaking 11'aside, H e entered and saw Hig nett on the floor, and Nugent Laid Walsh striking 'him. Nugent had a stick, and Walsh 601 tething like a piece of gas-piping. Walsh seeing him, ran `awards him, saving, " if von come here I will make you a Za"Pse." itrea Witness was obliged to retreat. He saw Walsh k some glass, and aftewards saw him and Nugent leave tal go up Vauxhall-road, saving, " We will let them know ilicia Vauxhall rangers are." He followed them, and seeing u ar t constables gave them in charge.—One of the constables inn took them up said that Walsh had a gas-fitting in his l itnd, and his hand was cut.—Mr. Percival, surgeon of the tr i ; sPensary, said, that on the previous evening Waterson and 4 1 guett were brought there. Hignett bled from his head p g ar ti shoulder. There were two wounds on his head, ap eatly inflicted by a shary instrument. Hignett had a 14e,, i ll _ re contusion on the left elbow. Waterson was also blastveding from two wounds on the head, apparently from a instrument. The wounds did not appear to be dangerous. Another constable, who knew Levi, apprehended him in a 1 10 ,,ar in the neighbourhood.—Nugent said he went into the ta„,l? to make peace. Levi said be was not in the house at 'l; e "me. Walsh and White declined saying anything then. t w , Prisoners were all committed for trial at the sessions. 14. have been the more particular in giving the principal a 4ea lons of the evidence in this case, inasmuch as the outrage N, I's to have been wholly unprovoked ; but, we are in li7;:ed, it arose from an entertained towards Mr. Lesson, from his being a reputed Orangeman.] " A LATE PRAISEWORTHY OCCURRENCE. W e ve been oft told of fishes—no need of my pen, Walton best tells us how—taken by men, A uern I aptly define, in the words of a brother, o r ' worm at one end, and a fool at the other ! " 1 • 4 as quaintly expressed, (the thought's just as absurd) ti,.,.'wo creatures impaled, for the whim of a third ! " };`:. in history's annals, 0 can it be found, y,,a , a fish caught a man, on the point of being drown'd )'"ere'By no child but remembers the tale )1,, Jonah was saved in the jaws of a IT - hale ! 1 .0 "\ here' s an occurrence by far more uncommon 5, a Pike in s trumental to save an old woman ! -tio lphin the rather, well worthy of plate , ti t i li tv Eß-fish he deserves, when we think of his bait!) Joking apart, and a truce to the fishes— H e a .Nible proof should embody our wishes Well a claim on the public, for saving . n life 7. , Y es ' deserving a "Hero " —when getting a NI ife But e be willing to meet in the wave — Sr Hero " Leander"—a watery h grave! e 1) 11 0 ,. - er "'s the distinction at once you'll discover— risk'd the same fate, but 'twas not for.a Lover ! If Yo • POSTSCRIPT. (1 1,clon't und e rstand me, pray open " Lempriere" ; fusion s I can't well explain to you here. TOWN COUNCIL PROCEEDINGS. ELECTION OF MAYOR, AND APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEES. The first meeting of the Town-Council since the municipal election, was held in the Town-hall, on Wednesday, for the purpose of electing the Mayor for the ensuing year, and the appointment of the general committees. The attendance of members was very full—every one, in fact, being present at the commencement of the proceedings. The chair was filled, in the first instance, by the retiring Mayor, John Shaw Leigh, Esq. ELECTION OF MAYOR. Mr. SANDS, immediately after twelve o'clock, rose in his place, and addressed the council as follows :—Mr. Mayor, the time has arrived when your functions cease as chief magis trate; and I rise for the purpose of proposing a gentleman in every way qualified to fill the chair which you are about to vacate. (Hear, hear.) Ido not think, Mr. Mayor, that it would be consistent with good taste even to attempt to dis cuss the qualifications of my friend, whom I am about to propose, because he is well-known to every member in this council, and to some, perhaps, much better than myself. (Hear, hear, hear.) It is not necessary, Mr. Mayor, that I should state to the council, that Mr. Robertson Gladstone (loud cheers) is an eminent merchant in Liverpool, and con nected with an eminent firm. (Hear, hear.) It is not ne cessary I should state to the council, that from Mr. Glad stone's business habits, from the active character of his mind, and from the firmness of his character, he is in every way qualified to discharge the duties which we are about to impose upon him. (Cheers and applause.) That he will discharge those duties with credit to himself, and with satis faction to the council, I can have no doubt. (Hear, bear.) I am quite sure, Mr. Mayor, that Mr. Gladstone, if elected, (and of that I can, of course, have no doubt) will to the ut most of his ability do everything in his power to promote the interests and the prosperity of this great corporate estate, as well as the interests and prosperity of the town at large, and that he will sustain the office with honour and dignity. (Hear.) Of that I have no doubt whatever, and I believe that the council likewise, will have no doubt. I therefore beg leave to propose, that Mr. Robertson Gladstone be the Mayor of this borough for the ensuing year. (Loud cheers.) Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE.—Mr. Mayor, I rise with great pleasure to second the motion of the worthy member for Ex change Ward. lam fully satisfied that the election of Mr. Gladstone to the high office of chief magistrate of this borough, wilt not only give satisfaction to this council, but to the com munity at large. I therefore have great pleasure in second ing the nomination of Mr. Sands. (Cheers.) Mr. PLATT said, he rose not to offer any opposition to the motion, but rather to support it. (Hear.) He should sup port it with great pleasure, but at the same time he must be allowed to make a few remarks, which, in his opinion, were fitting for the occasion. For some years, some of the members of the council had been obliged to sit in a very painful situation; and to hear' with deep concern, many discussions upon the subjectof education, (cries of " order, and question.") He should not occupy more than a minute or two, and he begged to be heard for that time, because he thought he should prove—(cries of " question and order.") He only meant to say, that there had been several manifestations of libera lity, so as to affect an alteration as to the system of educa tion in the Corporation Schools in favour of the poorer classes of children, and amongst others by Mr. Gladstone, (cries of " question and order.") He did not wish to say anything that might be unpleasant—(cries of " oh, oh.") Mr. SANDS rose to order. Mr. Platt was clearly out of order, in attempting now to raise a discussion upon the education question. (Hear, hear.) The MAYOR then put the question, whether Mr. Glad stone be elected Mayor, and the motion was carried by acclamation. Mr. Leigh then vacated the chair, and Mr. Gladstone assumed it amidst very animated cheering. The necessary forms on taking office, having been gone through, before Mr. John Holmes and Mr. William Earle, as Magistrates, The MAYOR rose amidst much -applause, and said : Before we proceed to the business of the day, I beg to be permitted to make my heartfelt acknowledgements to the council for the honour they have just conferred upon me —(hear)—an honour which, I can sincerely say, I desire to appreciate. (Hear, hear.) It will be my duty to en deavour to conduct the business of this council with fair ness and, I hope, with strict impartiality. (Hear.) I am, however, conscious of the necessity there is for carrying out those rules and regulations which are intended for the good government of this council (hear, hear, hear) ; and I may be permitted to say, that whilst it is my intention to secure to every one who addresses the council a fair and uninterrupted hearing, I hope I shall not look in vain for the confidence and cordial co-operation of the council in carrying that intention into effect. (Loud cheers.) An allusion has been made, by a gentleman on my left (Mr. Platt), to a portion of my conduct since I have been a member of the council, and especially to what has fallen from 'me, in the last year, upon the subject of education. (Hear, hear.) Upon that lam not now going to enter ; but I can only say, by accepting the office in which you have just had the kindness to place me, it is not my intention to shrink from the responsibility of that sub ject. (Hear, hear.) lam perfectly aware of its importance, and I look upon it as one of those matters which stand entirely aloof from every other connected with the corpora tion. (Hear, hear, from Mr. Alderman Earle.) It will afford me great gratification if it is possible to make such a change as may really be of value and service to the town ; and I shall be happy to participate and co-operate in that change, but at the same time I hope the council will not look for more from me, in the position in which I am placed, than I have already expressed. (Hear.) I have only to say that my best exertions shall be devoted to the discharge of those duties which I owe to the council, and also to those which 1 owe to the public. We will now, if you please, proceed to the business of the day. (Hear.) MINUTES OF THE LAST COUNCIL. The Deputy TOWN-CLERK read the proceedings of the last council, which comprised the payment of rewards to certain officers of the gaol for their efficient conduct during the late disastrous fire in that neighbourhood ; and the con firmation of the appointments recommended by the Markets Committee of inspectors of slaughter-houses and meat. After some unimportant conversation all the proceedings were confirmed. DOCK COMMITTEE. The proceedings of the Dock Committee since the last council were read ; and in moving their confirmation, Mr. SANDS proposed that Mr. John Bramley-Moore be elected a member of the committee in the place of Mr. H. R. Sand bach, and Mr. Thomas Royden in the place of Mr. Mellor. Both motions were unanimously carried. Mr. SANDS next proposed the appointment of four com missioners to audit the dock accounts, and that the following gentlemen be the commissioners :—Mr. Hugh James Saun derson, Mr. John Wellater, Mr. Wm. Potter, and Mr. George Green.—Carried unanimously. MAYOR'S ALLOWANCE. On the motion of Slr THOMAS BRANCKER, seconded by Mr. J. S. LEIGH, the Mayor's allowance was fixed at £2,000, subject to the usual conditions. QUARTERLY COUNCILS. The next quarterly councils were appointed to be held on the first Wednesday in February, the first Wednesday in May, and the first Wednesday in August. APPOINTMENT OF ANNUAL OFFICERS. The officers of the corporation, who hold annual appoint ments, were next proposed. The TOWN-CLERK suggested, that as to the sub-bailiffs, their appointment should be subject to the decision of the council on the report of the special committee appointed to inquire into the duties and salaries of the paid officers of the corporation. _ _ _ Mr. LLOYD said, the Municipal Act authorised the ap pointment of certain officers, one of whom was the treasurer of the borough fund. It might so happen that other duties would be imposed upon the treasurer than those which be now considered it bls duty to perform ; therefore, it would be expedient to make his appointment subject to the decision of the council when the report of the Paid Officers' Committee was considered. The TOWN-CLERK.—Just in the same way as the sub bailiffs. Mr. LLOYD.—Yes. The suggestion of Mr. Lloyd was then agreed to, and the annual appointments were made, subject to the conditions specified as to the sub-bailiffs and the treasurer. CUSTODY OF THE CHARTERS AND MUNIMENTS. The TOWN-CLERK stated, that the Municipal Act provided that the charters of the corporation should be kept in such place as the council should from time to time direct; and that the town-clerk should have the charge and custody of, and be responsible for, the same. The resolution annually passed by the - council stated that the strong room called the Repository should be the place for keeping the deeds and muniments of the corporation ; and it made some further provisions, which he suggested the propriety of omitting, because the council would have to take this subject into con sideration when they came to have the report of the Paid Officers' Committee, and the report of the officers thereon, before them. It would, therefore, be proper to stop for the present, with simply appointing a place for the deposit of these instruments, leaving any directions as to facility of access to them by any officers of the corporation, subject to consideration when the report of the Paid Officers' Com mittee was finally considered. Mr. LLOYD asked whether he was distinctly to understand that the council now resolved simply as to the place where the deeds were to be kept, leaving all other matters for future consideration when the Paid Officers' Committee was dis cussed ? The TOWN-CLERK.—That is what I recommend. Mr. LLOYD said, then he would move a resolution to the effect suggested by the town-clerk.—A resolution to the effect stated was then passed. THE CORPORATION CHEST. The TOWN-CLERK said, it bad been usual for one key of the corporation chest and of the common seal of the corpora tion to be kept by the mayor, another by the town-clerk, and another by the treasurer. The custody belonged to the town-clerk, but this arrangement added to the security.— The annual resolution on this subject was then unanimously adopted. STANDING ORDERS. The standing orders of the council were read by the Town clerk and agreed to. After the resolution had been passed, Mr. LLOYD stated that he had some objections to the 26th order, which he should not press after they had been agreed to, but he should give notice of a motion upon the subject at a future council. APPOINTMENT OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. The MAYOR having stated that the next business on the paper was the appointment of the Finance Committee, the Town•clerk read a statement of the powers vested in that committee. ........ Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said that having had the honour to be chairman of the Finance Committee during the last year, he had now to submit the names of fifteen gentlemen whom he should be glad to be carried as members of that commit tee. In the first instance, however, to be in order, he should move that the committee do consist of fifteen, and then he should submit their names.—A motion to this effect being pdopted, Mr. Lawrence proposed, seriatim, that the follow ing gentlemen compose the committee, all of whom were carried unanimously : Mr. James Aspinall, Mr. Henry Lawrence, Mr. William Birkett, Mr. G. H. Lawrence, Sir Thomas Brancker, Mr. J. S. Leigh, Mr. Christopher Bushell, Mr. W. Moon, Mr. W. P. Freme, Mr. A. Smith, jun., Mr. John Holmes, Mr. Thomas Shaw, Mr. Hugh Hornby, Mr. J. N. Wood. Mr. Richd. Houghton, jun. The TOWN-CLERK stated that in addition to the duties which be had previously enumerated, this committee would have to take charge of the interests of the corporation under the Conservancy Act. IMPROVEMENT COMMITTEE. The TOWN-CLERK having detailed the duties and powers of this committee, Mr. HODGSON moved, seriatim, that the following gentle men do compose the Improvement Committee: — Mr. R.B. H. Blundell, Mr. J. Kilshaw, Mr. J. Cooper, Mr. James Lawrence, Mr. William Earle, Mr. J. H. Turner, Mr. D. Hodgson, Mr. James Plumpton, Mr. H. Holmes, Mr. Samuel Holme. All these names were carried unanimously. WATCH COMMITTEE. The duties and powers of the Watch Committee having been read by the TOWN -CLERK, Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE moved, seriatim, that the fol lowing 25 gentlemen do compose it : Mr. James Proctor, Mr. Copeland, Mr. D. Hodgson, Mr. G. H. Lawrence, Mr. Richd. Harbord, Mr. John Kilshaw, Mr. James Parker, Mr. William Preston, Mr. William Thornhill, Mr. James Lawrence, Mr. E. Rae, Mr. Thos. Toulmin, Mr. S. L. Trotman, The committee thus cons mously. Mr. H. Hornby, Mr. Thos. Blackburn, Mr. A. Smith, jun. Mr. J. C. Thompson, Mr. Thomas Brassey, Mr. John Sheppard, Mr. J. Bramley-Moore, Mr. J. B. Lloyd, Mr. J. H. Turner, Mr. John Platt, Mr. C. Bushell, Mr. R. Jones, jun. anted was agreed to unani- MARKETS' COMMITTEE. The TOWN-CLERK described the powers and duties of this committee. Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE said that the Markets' Com mittee had hitherto consisted of nine members only, but it was now thought desirable that it should consist of ten, and therefore he should propose that number. He moved that the following gentlemen do form the committee : Mr. James Aspinall, Mr. Jos. Cooper, Mr. John Kilshaw, Mr. Thomas Toulmin, Mr. Eyre Evans, I Mr. Simon L. Trotman, Mr. James Lawrence. Mr. John Priestley, Mr. Robert Rigby. Mr. Isaac Holmes: Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said that no committee had, in the result of their proceedings last year, disappointed him so much as the Markets' Committee. The estimate of the re ceipts which the Finance Committee expected to receive from the markets was £6,000 ; but the real returns last year had been only £3,500. The average receipts of the last three years bad been between £5,000 and £6,000. He did not mean to say that the Markets' Committee had expended money injudiciously : but he did observe that rents had been lowered. He hoped that this diminution would not occur again. - Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE was rather surprised at the re marks of Mr. George Hall Lawrence, but he was not sorry for them, as they rendered it necessary for him to give some explanations with regard to the proceedings of the committee in the last year. If Mr. G. H. Lawrence had made inquiries from Mr. Neilson (in the treasurer's office) what had been the expenditure last year upon account of the markets, he would have found that during the time the late committee had had the management of them the expenditure had been really less than it ever was before. A considerable sum of money had been left unpaid in the previous year, which ap peared in the accounts of the last year • and if that were de ducted the expenditure would be found much less last year than before. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the rents there was very little differecce. In one case there had been a re moval of six stalls in St. James's Market, from which a rental of £4O had been obtained. This had taken place pre viously to the late committee coming into office. Last year but one the whole of the rents were collected in advance, but last year, though some had been collected before the quarter had expired, many had not been, and there was an item of £9O in the previous year's account which did not ap pear in that of the last year. There was also a falling off in the petty collections of £4O, which was a considerable item, which was owing to the depression of trade, and this, indeed, was a circnmstanee which showed a depression of the times. If Mr. Lawrence, or any other member of the council, would inquire into the real expenditure of the committee last year, he would find it not nearly so great as it appeared to be in the published accounts. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE explained that, in the observations he had made, he had been guided entirely by the published accounts of the corporation. Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE said that, after such a statement, it was of course necessary for him to enter upon these expla nations, in order to set the committee in a proper position before the public. (Hear.) The Markets Committee was then appointed as above. EDUCATION COMMITTEE. Mr. MOLYNEUX moved that the Education Committee consist of fifteen members, and that the following gentlemen compose it : Mr. Thos. Chilton, Mr. R. S. Crooke, Mr. Edmd. Molyneux, Mr. John North, Mr. Ebenezer Rae, Mr. Thomas Sands, Mr. F. Shand, Mr. Thomas Shaw, Mr. J. C. Thompson. , Mr. Joshua Edwards, Mr. Richard Harbord , Mr. David Hodgson, Mr. Samuel Holme, Mr. Rd. Houghton, sen., Mr. G. H. LiwrenCe Mr. AMIN said he had not intended to make a single observation about the appointment of the Committees ; but in consequence of what be had just heard, he could not allow that appointment to be made without offering some observa tions. He trusted he should be able to make an effectual objection to the committee as proposed. He had listened to the appointment of some committees in silence, although he found in some instances. that the appointments were five to one, in others six to one, and in another ten to one. To this he bad not objected; but he must recall to recollection of the council, the invariable rule adopted on former occa sions when his (the liberal) party had the majority : they invariably placed upon each committee, a number of their opponents corresponding with their minority in the council. He did not wish at all to introduce into this, or into any question connected with the business of the corporation, party politics ; on the contrary, his object was, to see the duties which devolved upon them, discharged by men selected more for their fitness than for their party spirit or their party zeal. He did not rise for the purpose of opposing the motion, because he knew if he car ried his opposition to a vote, he should most probably be left in a very small minority indeed. But in making this appeal to the sense of propriety on the part of the council upon a question involving certainly as strong party feeling, and as strong religious feeling, as it was possible for men to have who had a direct interest at stake—parents who had the education of children at heart, and particularly of the poorer classes of our fellow-townsmen—he did trust and hope, now that he made this appeal, the council would not allow the appointment of this committee without at all events allowing one or two members to be upon it who had been upon the same committee heretofore. There were now in the council two men whose exertions on that committee had been conspicuous, and whose services upon it had been invaluable. He need not mention the names of Hugh Hornby or Thomas Blackburn; but he thought if the council would appoint those two individuals, or one of them, they would shew that they had the desire for a settlement of the question which had been expressed by some members. He might himself be single in the idea, but he did hope that the day was not far distant when this question would be settled satisfac torily to both . parties. The council could not be guilty of such self delusion as to hope, now that it was proposed for the first time to make the committee to consist exclusively of the majority, that the question could be settled in the com mittee ; and, therefore, be hoped that the council would avail itself of the hint he had thrown out. Having two such men in the committee might be the means of adopting many valu able suggestions which, on many occasions, might be the means of saving not only the time but the temper of the coun cil. He would rather not move those two individuals for the purpose of displacing any other two who had been named ; but that he might be in order in rising, he would move, as an amendment, that Mr. Thomas Blackburn and Mr. Hornby be added to the Education Committee. Mr. PLATT begged leave most respectfully to second the motion ; and perhaps he might now be allowed to make a few remarks, which he had intended to make at the commence ment of the proceedings. He did not regret that he was not named upon the committee, although it was a committee in the proceedings of which he had always taken a very lively interest. His only regret was, that the present system ex cluded a great numbers of poor children, who had the mis fortune to be Roman Catholics, from the schools. He was not an advocate for Roman Catholicism, but he was an ad vocate for the poor classes, and for the children belonging to them who were wandering about the streets in a state of destitution and misery, and who had a claim upon the corpo ration for shelter, and for a good and secular education. [A. VOICE.—" No, rm."] No, no! He said, yes, yes, yes. (Laughter.) Any one who went to the north and south ends of the town, and saw the destitution and misery which pre vailed among the lower classes of Irish, would at once say he (Mr. Platt) was right in asserting the principle that those children ought to be admitted. Mr. AIKIN suggested that members should confine them selves to the subject before them, which was not the general question of education, but the appointment of the committee. (Hear, hear.) The MAYOR said, he was ju,st about to stop Mr. Platt on that very ground. Mr. BUSHELL quite agreed with Mr. Aikin, that in the formation of the committees who were to conduct the affairs of this vast estate, it was the duty of the council, in making the appoi tments, to keep always as nearly as they could to the propor 'ons of parties in the council. Unquestionably it was right ey should take care to choose the best men for the respective committees whom the town had selected to occupy seats in that council. Now, there could be no question as to the duties of the gentlemen who formed the Finance Committee: the duties of the Finance Committee were to do every thing that lay in their power, by their in dustry, their energy, and their ability, to husband the resources of the town. (Hear.) There could, likewise, be be no question with regard to the duties of the gentlemen composing the Improvement Committee : their duties were to improve, to embellish, and to forward the interests of the town in those respects. Now, if this were the principle of all committees, what were the duties of the gentlemen who were to compose the Education Committee ? (Hear, hear, hear.) Who were the Education Committee? They were a selection made from the body of the council to carry out the principles of the council—the principles decided upon by the council upon that particular question. (Ilear, hear, hear.) Now, could there be conceived any thing more inconsistent than for the council to send into that committee, openly for, that purpose, gentlemen who were known to be directly opposed to the system which the council required to be carried out?' (Hear, hear.) Surely, then, in this case, the conservatives who formed the council had shown their consistency. (Hear, hear.) Whatever his (Mr. Bushell's) views might be with regard to the suggestion which the Mayor bad thrown out this morning, his opinion upon the general subject would not be changed. If there was to be any change made in the system of the schools, it should be made by the council, not by the committee; and the council having changed the system, would then be in a position to change the constitution of the committee. (Hear, hear.) He — The MAYOR was sorry to interrupt Mr. Bushell, but he was deviating from the question now before the council. The proper course was for those names to be put which had been already read. Mr. BUSHELL said that, as be understood, that was the course now to be taken. The MAYOR..—But it appeared to me that you were dis cussing the general question of the system of education. Mr. BUSHELL bowed with great willingness to the deci sion of the Mayor; but he appealed to his friend Mr. Aikin whether he thought he (Mr. Bushell) had deviated from the question at issue, in stating the reasons why the committee had been formed upon the principle of excluding all those who were known to be directly opposed to the present sys tem of education. But if the Mayor thought he was out of order he would bow to his decision. _ _ The MAYOR said the motion before the council by Mr. Aikin was that the two gentlemen he had named should be added to the committee. Mr. COPELAND contended that Mr. Bushell was in order, inasmuch as he was shewing why those gentlemen should not be added to the committee. (Hear, hear.) The MAYOR said the fact was that the motion was, itself, irregular The proper course was to put the names of those gentlemen who had been proposed in the first instance, and when that had been done, Mr. Aikin's motion would be regular. The TOWN-CLERK said the course was for one member to be nominated, and then it was in the power of any member to nominate another member against that proposal ; and so on till the list was completed. Mr. EVANS contended that this was a question with re gard to the number of the committee, and it ought to take precedence of the names. Mr. HORNBY said it was quite true that the course just stated by the Town-clerk had been followed upon former oc casions ; but at the same time he conceived that the council ought not to be prevented from discussing the mode in which the committee might be selected. That would be limiting the powers of the council unnecessarily. It ap peared to him, therefore, that this discussion was perfectly regular. Mr. Aikin had proposed that some gentlemen of different opinions should be appointed members of the com mittee. and Mr. Bushell objected that snch an appointment would be inconsistent. To him, it appeared on this account that the disrussion was quite in order ; and that unless it took place the council would not be in a position to judge of taws. The MAYOR said, he concluded that all he had to guard against was that the council was not !nvolved in a discussion upon the question of education. (Hear, hear.) Mr. PKRICER said the Mayor was perfectly correct ; but at the same time if he allowed one gentleman to state his reasons why the two individuals proposed should be added to the Education Committee, he hoped he would also hear the other side of the question, namely, the reasons why they should not be admitted upon that committee. He (Mr. Parker) rose then for the purpose of opposing the amend ment of Mr. Aikin ; and he did it on this ground (Cries of " Order," and " Mr. Bushell.") Mr. SHEPPARD said he should oppose Mr. Aikin's amendment. (Cries of " Order.") The TOWN-CLERK said he conceived the question whether the committee consisted of ten or twelve to be a question which ought to be disposed of before the nomination of the members. The irregularity now was in this, that the propo sition was, not that the committee should consist of the ad ditional number of two, but that two gentlemen by name should be added to the committee. If that motion were carried the effect would be that those two gentlemen would be elected. The course of the council had been to proceed to the election of each individual separately ; against the nomi nation of one gentleman another gentleman had been nomi nated, and after that the council came to a determination. The Court of Queen's Bench had allowed another course. It had allowed the whole number to be proposed at once in a very late case ; but in this council the course had been as he had stated. If the motion were reduced into the form that two members be added, abstaining from naming them, there would then be no objection. Mr. EARLE begged to put one question, as it seemed there were some gentlemen anxious to make speeches on this sub ject. If it were agreed that they might propose any particu lar gentleman, he supposed that any member who was anxious to make a speech might state why that gentleman was or was not eligible ? If so, the whole discussion came to the same thing. Mr. SHEPPARD rose, but there being a cry for Mr. Bushell to proceed, he gave way. Mr. Bynum, said, that so far from feeling any regret at having been checked by the Mayor, he was glad at it, because he was persuaded that his worship would, in his new office, fully carry out the principle of impartiality throughout the whole period during which he might occupy the chair. The council had, on many occasions, had reason to regret thatkentlemen had been suffered to deviate from the subject at issue, and that much valuable time had been lost in consequence : and there fore he thanked the Mayor for having checked him, when he considered he was deviating from the question. He was going on to throw out that which Mr. Earle had just thrown out. Suppose the first name had been read, Mr. Aikin would have got up and said, " I propose Mr. Hugh Hornby:" a discussion would have arisen on that, and, therefore, discussion must follow, even if they did not enter upon the general question of education, but confined themselves to giving reasons for, and against the particular nomination. When he was interrupted he was shewing what the duties of committees were, and he was going on to show that the duty of the Education Committee was to carry out the principle of education in the corporation schools, as laid down by the council; therefore, to appoint any gentleman who would rather oppose than assist in the carrying out of that principle would be a perfect anomaly. (Hear.) The first thing, if gentlemen wished to change the system, must be to propose that it be altered in the council ; and then the council, if the change were made, would be prepared to alter the constitution of the committee; but until that was done, the course to be adopted was, to put upon the committee only those members who were in favou r of the principle now adopted. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BLACKBURN said, he felt the extreme inconvenience of entering upon a lengthened discussion of the general sub ject, and he did not intend to embark upon it, but to state in a very few words the reasons why he differed entirely from the view taken by Mr. Bushell. He did not agree with the statement that there would be inconsistency in either Mr. Hornby or himself accepting the appointment. The objection that Mr. Hornby and himself had to the course pursued with regard to education was a negative objection. They did not object to what was actually and positively done in the way of instruction in the schools. They never did object to the children of the Established Church being instructed in their own religious persuasion ; they disapproved of nothing going on in the schools, so far as he knew, with that object, but they objected to-- Mr. HODGSON.—Is this in order? Is not this going into the whole question? (Hear, hear.) The MAYOR.—Mr. Bushell has stated his reasons why he thinks the course pursued in the nomination of the committee is a right one; and, as 1 understand, Mr. Blackburn is now showing that it is a wrong one. Mr. EARLE.—I - lear, hear ! Bravo ! Mr. BLACKBURN, in continuation, sair ) , his party did not object to what was going on in the schools in the way of in struction ; and all they now wanted was some addition to secure the admission of Roman Catholic children. They did not object, and for himself he could honestly say he did not object, and never did object, during the time he had a share in the management of the schools,. to the children of the Established Church having every advantage for their own instruction. He defied any man to contradict him upon that point. There was, therefore, no inconsistency in either Mr. Hornby, or in himself, accepting the appointment; but, then, if his appointment were to be taken as an agreement with the present system, without any addition to that sys tem, he would not take it. Conservative gentlemen who dis approved of Roman Catholics being taught Roman Catholic doctrines, could not agree with the late system, and therefore, they were never asked to do so—but the distinction was marked now, and there was no reason why the liberal party should not with propriety be placed upon the present Edu cation Committee. He (Mr. Blackburn) would not go on the committee for the purpose of obstructing what they were inclined to do ; he had no objection to what was going on ; his principle was, that all should have education, and, there fore, he never opposed or offered any objection to education in the principles of the Established Church, believing that it would be unjust to attempt anything of the sort. He did not make these remarks for the purpose of being on the com mittee, because, whether on it or not, he would originate a discussion at the proper time and place, which, he trusted, might lead to the adoption of some plan that would meet the concurrence of all parties, without obliging any to relinquish their conscientious conviction of what was right. Mr. PARKER said, the arguments of Mr. Blackburn were, so far as they went, very able for his. side of the question ; but it must be remembered, that the Education Committee was not so much a committee of business as a committee of principle. If , they, as conservatives and members of the Established Church, compromised their principles for the sake of expediency, they betrayed the trust reposed in them by their constituents—(hear, hear) ;—and he trusted, therefore, that the conservative majority of that council would never be led away by such arguments as they had just heard. He bad a very strong objection both to Mr. Blackburn and Mr. Hornby being placed upon the committee on account of their principles; but what, he would ask, had turned Mr. Black burn out of Lime-street Ward but his " liberal " views upon this question ? Mr. EARLE.—Strong drink. (Hear, and cries of "order.") Mr. BLACKBURN.—Money turned the out of Lime-street. (Great cries of " order.") The MAYOR suggested that the course which was now being taken was not the best suited for fair discussion. The council wasnot now considering what had turned one man out or put another man in. (Cheers.) Mr. EARLS — Strong beer has put them in. (Cries of " order.") The MAYOR thought it would be found that the subject stood upon firmer and higher grounds than these; and he trusted it would be dealt with accordingly. Mr. PARKER said, the worthy little alderman on his left, (Mr. Earle) had alluded to strong drink having been the means of putting the Conservatives in. He hoped the Mayor would call that gentleman to order. The MAYOR: I am sure the business of the council would be much benefitted if such expressions were avoided. — (Hear, hear.) . • Mr. PARKER hoped that he might now be allowed to state his objections to the two gentlemen named being on the committee. The appointments on both the Finance and Im provement Comwitttees had met with the approbation of all parties. and the appointments on the Education Com mittee alone had met with opposition. But although he stood there to give them his opinion on the subject, he also, he hoped, represented the wishes of his constituency, because the feeling oat of doors was, that they were to have an Edu cation Committee based on protestant principles, and com posed exclusively of members on the conservative side of the question. (Hear, hear,) He repeated that the matter was one of principle, and not of business. He hoped, therefore, that there would be no talk of compromise on this important question, because he was satisfied it was the feeling of the town that the system as now pursued be carried out by the conservative party, if they were to exist as a party. (Hear, hear.) With these impressions he would sit down opposed to either Mr. Hornby or Mr. Blackburn, being on the Edu cation Committee. Mr. HODGSON said he should not attempt to go into the general question now, because he could clearly foresee that there would be ample opportunity afforded of discussing it again and again. (Hear.) He rose to give what he thought was a contradiction to the gentleman who had first risen on the subject. That gentleman stated it had been invariably the practice to admit a portion of their opponents in the council upon the various committees. Now, it was singular that that gentleman should not, upon so important a subject, have been better informed before he made the declaration to the council, because, instead of the invariability to which he referred, the fact was that with regard to this particular committee (the Education Committee) a list was given in, consisting of fifteen radicals—(hear, hear)—with an express declaration on the part he (Mr.. Hodgson) believed of the chairman of that committee that " he regretted he could not include one conservative on it—(hear)—and the more so as the leaders of that party, Sir R. Peel and the Duke of Wel lington, had given it their approbation, though not one who could do so had yet found his way into the council." The 15 radicals were then appointed. (Hear.) It was surprising that any member should so entirely have overlooked this fact, but it would appear still more surprising when he named the gentleman who had proposed the committee in question, and made the observations just referred to—it was no less than Mr. Blackburn himself. (Loud cries of " hear, hear," from the conservatives.) He (Mr. Hodgson) bad procured the extract of the gentleman's speech from the STANDARD, the Mail, and the Mercury of the 12th of November, all of which were in substance the seine, and he would doubtless be cor rected if he were wrong. It was very singular that the gen tlemen on the radical side should so suddenly change their views of liberality, but, Whilst wishing to carry on all discus sion with the utmost courtesy, he could not see or under stand the reasoning of Mr. Blackburn, that the circumstances were now changed. Though he (Mr. Blackburn) said he ap proved of what had been done, he only approved so far that he might introduce something which he called " additions," else that would make all the things now done objectionable as part and parcel of an unsound system. The Education Committee did not exclude the Roman Catholics. (Hear.) It was not true. (Hear, bear.) They offered the Bible to the Roman Catholics. They offered them Scriptural education without sectarianism. (Hear, hear.) But the Roman Catho lics could not be taught except out of the Douay version with their own objectionable notes; and, though the com mittee might be permitted to give instruction to the other children not out of the Douay, they could not be black and white at the same time. (Hear, hear.) They could not allow the sound and the unsound to go on, pari passu. He would ask the medical man upon this point whether corrup tion and incorruption would do well to continue in the same body? (Hear, hear, and laughter.) He believed that Mr. Blackburn and Mr. Hornby, though erroneous, advocated their views with sincerity and ability; but he trusted the conservative party would support this cause upon the strength of immutable principle. (Cheers.) He regretted that any thing hadfallen from the chair on the subject of education. He must say he deeply regretted it. (Hear, hear.) He therefore opposed the appointment of either Mr.i Blackburn or Mr. Hornby, distinctly saying that it was not through any discourtesy. (Hear.) Mr. BLACKBURN begged to explain. Mr. Hodgson had just quoted that he said "he regretted he could not propose any conservative member upon the committee ; " but what was the reason of his regret ? Not that he was unwilling to place them upon the committee, but because he knew they would not serve upon it. That was the ground of his regret. (Cries of " Oh, oh! ") It was so, indeed. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE. — The fact is we would not serve. Mr. BLACKBURN.—Gentlemen were asked to serve and they refused. Mr. HODGSON.—I never was asked to serve. Mr. BLACKBURN.—No, you never were asked. Mr. EARLE said he did not wonder at that gentleman (Mr. Hodgson) not being asked to serve ; and he thought it was extremely to be regretted that his name was placed upon the list on this occasion. lie thought so, because the time was come when the government of the country looked upon this question in a very different point of view. (Cries of " Question and order." He was in order. He appealed to the Mayor, who had a brother in office, and therefore knew, no doubt, whether the government of the country were not in favour of a more liberal style of education than hitherto had existed ? The MAYOR said he knew nothing about it. Mr. EARLE, in continuation, said there was a clause in the Poor Law Act, which authorised Roman Catholic child ren to be taught in the workhouses. Would they then pre vent the funds of the Corporation from being employed in the same manner that the parochial funds were employed under the sanction of government? (Cry of " Oh, no.") Oh, no ! He said, oh, yes. He thought Mr. Hornby and Mr. Blackburn would do honour to the committee. He thought they would not be chosen ; but the gentleman who had spoken last, had always a shot in his pocket for the,ra dicals, though he was one of them once, and had not even a fragment of it remaining. (Cries of " Order.") By the old paper he had brought out it seemed he must have come prepared with a shot ; it was an old paper, so old indeed, that he might have had his snuff wrapped in it for the last six months. (Order.) Mr. COPELAND robe to order, and protested against these attacks upon Mr. Hodgson. Mr. EARLE.—Mr. Hodgson is always rapping at us, and I will always rap at him. He should let us alone. (Cries of " Order.") Mr. HODGSON.—I have made no rap, but if the gentleman chooses to bark from his tub at the length of his chain, let him bark ! (Cheers.) The MAYOR interfered.—lt would be quite impossible to conduct the business of the council if such recriminations as these were allowed. He was sure that if gentlemen would but consider, they would see how much it was for the cha racter of the council that these expressions should be avoided. He made no allusions to particular individuals; but he knew that such expressions had been made use of in that room, and the sooner they were abandoned the better. (Cheers.) Mr. EARLE said, his temper was rather warm, and he could not allow the party to which he belonged, and which he respected, to have sarcastic words and looks thrown out against it upon every occasion when that gentleman got up. Mr. MOLYNEU X moved that the number of the committee consist of fifteen. Mr. AixiN moved, as an amendment, that it consist of seventeen. Mr. BIRKETT denied, as had been asserted by Mr. Earle, that the funds of the parish were taken for the instruction of persons in the workhouse in the Roman Catholic religion. The poor-law act only authorised the payment of a chaplain, who must be a member of the Established Church. A licensed minister might come in on courtesy to those who required him, but there was not a farthing paid him. It would be illegal to pay him anything from the parish funds. Mr. SYIEPPARD, as a poor-law guardian, begged to confirm what Mr. Birkett had just said. Mr. BIRKETT added, that in his opinion, instead of an " addition," Mr. Blackburn would subtract from that which was right if placed upon the commtttee. The MAYOR thought they were again deviating from the question before the council. Mr. LACE inquired whether the council or the committee had the regulation of the system in the schools ? The MAYOR said the committee had the appointment of the system, but their proceedings were all confirmed by the council, and, of course, it was in the power of the council to approve or disapprove of their acts. Mr. LACE said that if the exclusive arrangement of the schools were with the committee, he should, perhaps, vote differently from what he intended to do. _ _ Mr. HORNBY recommended Mr. Aikin to withdraw his amendment. He (Mr. Aikin) had said he threw it out in the hope that it would be taken up by the chairman of the committee ; but as it had not been so taken up, and as it was the general opinion of the majority of the council that no liberal should be on the committee, it would be almost factious to divide the council on such a question, which, after all, did not involve any matter of principle. Mr. AIKIN was rather inclined to differ from Mr. Hornby. He proposed his amendment, not from any factious or party spirit, but because those who thought an arrangement might be made, thought also that that arrangement must emanate from the committee. He did it solely with the hope that those who were moderate in their views on the question might record their votes, and show that they had a sincere desire to bring it to an amicable arrangement. (Cries of " Vote, vote.") Mr. EVANS said they had heard a good deal about prin ciple. He considered the principle of the Education Com mittee was education. He considered all the committees of the council were, as it were, the council. They were small councils, and ordered exactly to debate and discuss the questions in a small way, in order to prepare them for the council in a large way. Now, to exclude out of the council all the means of discussion, in his opinion was to render the committees in a great degree abortive in the object for which they were formed. He considered they would, in every way, defeat the end of committees by excluding those who would properly discuss every subject—and, on the other side, that they would overwhelm the Council with details and discussions that would never be carried to an equally complete point. He would remind the committee and the council that it was rather dictatorial in anybody—it was a presumption unwarranted either by fact or by reasoning— to say that either the committee or the council had a right to declare that the existing arrangement of school education was an unalterable principle. As it was going on now, he would corroborate the assertion of Mr. Earle, that it was going on at variance with the principle of the legislature that created town-councils. They were excluding, locally, Catho lics, while the legislature were providing for their education ; and here was now the most monstrous principle he had ever heard asserted, that they were not even to let that very com mittee who were ordered to decide on how the education should be conducted—that they were not to let into its body any of those who were already committed on one point. He certainly should, if the questiofn with regard to the number of the committee were negatived, move an amendment at least upon one name. _ Mr. 'SANDS said it would, no doubt, be in the recollection of the council that, twelve months ago, they had acted on the principle just recommended by his friend Mr. Evans. The conservatives at that time felt their position was strong enough to be liberal, and they put on three of the opposite party. He had the moving of the committee upon that oc casion, and Mr. Platt and two others were put on. It had been found in the working that this was an unwise plan. (Hear.) They found that one or two of those gentlemen very much thwarted their views, not only in the committee, but when the proceedings came before the council, they some times said, " I decidedly objected to that in committee, and shall state my objections here." In the formation of the committee this year the conservatives thought it much better to avoid the occurrence of a similar inconvenience, especially as the gentlemen opposed to them wished rather to be left off the committee ; and upon those grounds it was that the con servatives had proposed the committee which the Council had just heard read. Mr. AIKIN said he would save time by withdrawing his amendment, believing, as lie did, that the gentlemen named were determined to have the whole credit of making a liberal change, such as would be satisfactory. (Ironical laughter.) He might say also he had reason to believe that if some such measure were not brought before the committee it would be brought before the council in a more substantive shape. Mr. BUSHELL asked whether Mr. Evans would consent to have on the Dock Committee those who were inimical to -warehouses on the dock quays? (A laugh.) Mr. EvANs said he should desire it above all things, be cause many had come upon the committee who were ht first inimical, but, they were so well convinced afterwards, that they dropped into his views. Mr. BUSHELL rejoined that if he could hope for any such result in the case of Mr. Hornby and Mr. Blackburn, he would consent to have them on the committee. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. MOLYNEUX here proceeded to read the names of the committee. When he came to that of Mr. Hodgson, Mr. EVANS said, I will not act up to what I said with re gard to moving an amendment. lam quite content with the demonstration which has been made on our side. Anything else I think would be useless. Mr. HODGSON.—That geutlemsn must have extraordinary confidence in his powers of conversion if he thinks, though he can convert those on the Dock Committee, he can convert those who are acting on principle in the schools. (Hear, hear.) The committee, as previously proposed by Mr. Molyneux, were then agreed to—namely, Messrs. Chilton, Crook, Ed wards, Harbord, Hodgson, Molyneux, Holme, Houghton, G. H. Lawrence, North, Rae, Sands, Shand, Shaw, and Thompson. GAOL COMMITTEE. Sir THOMAS BRANCICER moved that the Gaol Committee consist of the ten following gentlemen :—Messrs. Hodgson, Houghton, jun., Sands, John Holmes, Hornby, Aikin, Leigh, Evans, Earle, and the Mayor.—Agreed to. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE expressed a hope that all con tracts would be under the Gaol Finance Committee in future. (Hear.) At the request of Mr. LLOYD, The TOWN-CLERIC explained that the council had not only the building, enlarging, and repairing of the gaol, but the ap pointment and dismissal of the officers and the maintenance of the gaol with provisions, and consequently the making of all contracts—in fact, they had everything which formerly belonged to the justices, except that the justices had the regulation of the gaol subject to this provision : that no order made by the justices, which required the payment of money, should be in force until confirmed by the council. The Town- Clerk concluded by saying it was desirable that there should be a cordial understanding betwe,en,the committee appointed that day and the justices, because difficulties might otherwise occur causing conflicting determinations. GARDE-Se:COMMITTEE. Mr. TROTMAN moved 'that the Gardens' Committee con sist of the seven following gentlemen :—Messrs. Crook, Isaac Holmes, Jones, Preston, Thornhill, Plumpton, and Trot man.—Agreed to. Sir T. BRANCKEU.--I hope the council will give strict orders for the preservation of the game ! (Laughter.) BOROUGH COURTS' COMMITTEE. Mr. COOPER. moved that the'Borough Court and Court of Requests' Committee consist of the eight following gentle men ;—Messrs. Copeland, Lloyd, Trotman, Lace, Cooper, North, Holt, and Thompson.—Agreed to. The MAYOR acknoriledged the receipt of a letter stating that one of the assistants in the COint of Requests had been guilty of embezzlement.-It was referred to the committee. CHURCH. EXPENDITURE COMMITTEE. Mr. BIRKETT moved that the Church Expenditure Com mittee consist of the seven following gentlemen :—Messrs. Griffith, Lace, Molyneux, Parker, Platt, Shand, and Birkett. —Agreed to. COURTS OF LAW COMMITTEE. Mr. LLOYD moved that the Courts of Law and St. George's Hall Committee consist of the nine following gentlemen : Messrs. Henry Lawrence, Earle, Aspinall, Henry Holmes, Lloyd, Moore, Molyneux, North, and Holmes.—Agreed to. Mr. LLOYD also moved that the proceedings of the Courts of Law and St. George's Hall Committee be read immedi ately after the proceedings of the Improvement Committee, at all future meetings of the council.—Agreed to. TOWN-HALL COMMITTEE. Mr. SANDS moved that the Town-ball Establishment Committee consist of the seven following gentlemen : Messrs. Hodgson, Sands, Barclay, Earle, Leigh, Bushell, and Brancker. OBSERVATORY COMMITTEE. Mr. SHAND moved that the Observatory Committee con sist of the nine following gentlemen :—Messrs. Chilton, Aikin, Alderman Houghton, Platt, Nicol, Rae, Turner, Shand, and Blundell.—Agreed to. i t t HEALTH COMMITT Mr. BIRKETT moved that the Healt Town, comprising the Wash-houses and Baths' Commie, consist of the 17 following gentlemen :—Messrs. Aspinall, Birkett, Black burn, Bulley, Cooper, Crook, Edwards, Fawcett, Griffiths, Houghton, jun., Isaac Holmes, Harbord, Jones, Kilshaw, Lace, Sheppard, and the Mayor.—Agreed to. PAID OFFICERS' COMMITTEE. Mr. LLOYD moved that the special committee, to inquire into the present duties of the officers and servants of the corporation with their respective salaries, consist of the fol lowing gentlemen :—Messrs. J. Lawrence, Moore, Procter, Kilshaw, Barclay, and Lloyd ; and that the Finance Com mittee, at their first meeting, appoint one in the place of Mr. Bolton. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said, that seeing that this com mittee were in the middle of their inquiry, he had no objec tion to concur in the recommendation that the gentlemen named should form the committee ; but his impression was. that there should be a permanent paid officers' committee. Convenience dictated a different course this year; but he hoped that afterwards there would be a paid officers' com mittee, and that the different committees should be allowed to choose who should represent them. Mr. LLOYD said the present was a special committee, but he agreed that a permanent one would be useful. After a few words from other members, the motion was passed. COMMITTEE ON FIRES. Sir T. BRANCIEER moved that the Special Committee on Fires consist of the eight following gentlemen :—Messrs. Birkett, Evans, Nicol, Turner, Hodgson, James Lawrence Holme, and Brancker.—Agreed to. Sir THOMAS BRANOKEII. also moved that the committee be authorised, if necessary, to give notice for a bill in par liament, with the understanding that no further proceedings be taken with reference to the said bill without the autho rity of the council. Mr. Nicol. seconded the motion, and it was adopted. DAILY COURTS' COMMITTEE. Mr. LLOYD moved that the Daily Courts' Committee consist of the Courts of Law Committee, with the addition of Messrs. Evans, Aikin, and Thornhill.—Agreed to. EIRKENLIEAD COMMISSIONERS. Sir T. BRANCKER moved the appointment of Mr. No - rTh as commissioner under the local act of 1 Vic. c. 33, for amending an act of 3 Wm. IV. for paving, lighting, watch ing, cleansing, and otherwise improving the township or cha pelry of Birkenhead, and for regulating the police thereof, in lieu of Mr. T. Bolton, who had ceased to be a member of the council.—Agreed to. ST. JAMES'S CEMETERY. Mr. SMITH moved the appointment of Sir Thomas Brancker as trustee under the local act of 7 Geo. IV. for establishing St. James's Cemetery, in lieu of Mr. Daniel Mather, who had ceased to be , member of the council. Agreed to. COMMISSIONERS. FOR PILOTS. Mr. SMITH moved the appointment of Mr. Moore .in place of Mr. Sandbach, of Alderman Houghton in place of Mr. Mather, of Mr. Fawcett in place of Mr. Bolton, cf Mr. Boyden in place of Mr. Mellor, of Mr. Blundell in place of Mr. Robinson, f Mr. Rae in place of Mr. Jordan, of Mr. Moon in place Of Mr. John Smith, of Mr. Turner in place of Mr. Bright, of Mr. Trotman in place of Mr. Barton, and of Mr. Lloyd in place of Mr. Harvey, as commissioners to carry into execution the local .act of 5 Geo. IV. for the better regulation and encouragement of pilots for the con ducting of ships and vessels into and out of the port of Liverpool.—Agreed to. ENROLMENT OF INDENTURES. An application to allow, under special circumstances, the enrolment of the indentures of apprenticeship of William F. Sim, William Rutherford, Thomas Harrison, and Griffith Jones was referred to the Finance Committe# to inquire aad report to the Council. NUISANCE -• The MAYOR said he had received a memorial, stating that there existed a penny show at the corner of Leigh-street and Whitecha2el, in the front of which, pictures were exhibited representing dreadful and horrible murders—the woman Jones, for instance, who was murdered and cut up in pieces by G)od,.the coachman, and. the murder of the Italian boy in Liverpool, by scalding, and others of a like abominable nature. The memorialists further stated that a barrel organ was being constantly played on the premises—that a man was hired to bawl out the particulars of ,the .exhibition—that all descriptions of persons congregated on the parapets in the vicinity—that business was thereby injured and the peo ple demoralised, and they concluded by praying that the nuisance might be suppressed. It was determined that the exhibition should be proceeded against by information, the late Mayor having refused his sanction to it. THE MUNICIPAL ACT. The MAYOR suggested that a copy of the Municipal Re form Act should be sent to each member of the council. He said he had himself felt the want of it heretofore, and that it might be of service to the several new members. He pro posed that it should be furnished at the expense of the cor— poration. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE said the suggestion was a very proper one, as they had all come there to carry out the bill in question. The council adjourned at three o'clock to the first Wed nesday in December. MEETING OF THE DOCK COMMITTEE. The weekly meeting of the Dock Committee was held yesterday. There were present—Messrs. Sands (chairman), Horsfall, Barclay, Holmes, Smith, Molyneux, Nicol, Bul ley, Tobin, Shand, Chilton, Royden, Aikin, and Evans. The CHAIRMAN stated that the Committee of Works had no reports to make. The sub-committee for the department of the marine sur veyor recommended that Thomas Hughes, second keeper of the telegraph in Chapel-street, be appointed keeper of the telegraph station in Hilbre Island, in the place of Thomas Matthew, deceased, at the salary of £75 per annum and the use of the house. The sub-committee also recommended that David Rowland, jun., be appointed second keeper of the telegraph in Chapel-street, in the place of Thomas Hughes, at a salary of £6O per annum. Both recommendations were confirmed. On the recommendation of the same sub-committee, the sum of £lO was ordered to be paid to Elizabeth Matthew, widow of the late keeper of the telegraph on Hilbre Island, as a remuneration for the expenditure by her late husband on the house and garden ; and also £2O as a gratuity in con sideration of her destitute condition, and of the satisfactory manner in which her husband discharged his duties. The sub-committee further recommended that a tender of £8 for the condemned life-boat lately belonging to the Hoy lake Station be accepted. Mr. TOBIN and Mr. ROYDEN intimated that the tender was very little. The CHAIRMAN and other members said it was about as much as the boat was worth. Mr. BARCLAY said if it had been an iron boat, a good deal more might have been got for it. (Laughter.)—Con firmed. A ton of coals was ordered to be supplied at the com mencement of each winter, for the use of the Telegraph on Puffin Island. On the Tecomniendation of the Sub-committtee it was unanimously resolved that the new iron Light-ship, which will shortly be ready for launching, should be called " The Prince." The Sub-committee reported that Salthouse Dock bad been re-opened for the admission of shipping, and they re commended that the Master of Canning Dock be instructed to take charge of it for the present, and that the six dock gatemen attached to it, who had been dispersed among the other docks when it was closed, be directed to resume their duties.--Confirmed. On the recommendation of the Sub-committee, James Larnpfold and John Carfield were appointed gatemen to Toxteth dock, in the place of Hugh Jones and John Lancas ter, dismissed for misconduct. Mr. CHILTON mentioned that Mr. John Hartley, son of the Surveyor, had been appointed consultiug engineer to the Hull Dock Company. The CHAIRMAN read a letter from the Surveyor, an nouncing the appointment of his son. This letter was dated the Bth instant, and in it the Surveyor stated that the ap pointment was the wore gratifying to him, inasmuch as neither his son nor himself had made application, directly or indirectly, for it. About _one-fifth or one-fourth of his time might be required by it or business connected with it. The Chairman added, that he supposed Mr. Hartley would be called the consulting engineer. Mr. Ca ILTON said that was so. A resident engineer had been appointed the same day ; and Mr. Hartley would hold the same situation there as Mr. Walker held here. _ _ The communication from the Surveyor was then ordered :o lie on the table. Messrs. Fielden Brothers, in a letter to the committee, stated that a new line of packets consigned to them had commenced running between this port and New York, the first of which (the Rochester) had already arrived : they were intended to sail on the sth of each month, and the present application was that the accommodation afforded to the other liners in Waterloo Dock might be extended to them.—The application was referred to the Harbour Master, to report thereon. An application from Mr. John James Melhuish, agent for the London and Liverpool Shipping Company, reqaesting permission to occupy a stage constantly upon George's Dock Quay, without being fined for not removing the same, was declined, being contrary to the dock regulations. In reply to some observations from Mr. TOBIN, the CHAIR MAN stated that the lengthening of the Clarence South Gra ving Dock would be proceeded with, and that the Surveyor would report next week. Mr. ToBIN said this matter had been under discussion three or four months, and nothing was yet done. He considered the delay to be mere trifling with a decision of the committee. Mr. HORSFALL said there was no real delay, and the work would be proceeded with. Mr. Tonix repeated that too much time had been lost al ready. Mr. IloasrALL gave notice that at the next meeting of the committee, he should move for a return of the expense of keeping the statistical account of the several docks during the last twelve months, to see whether it were worth while to go on with it, of which he had his doubts. Mr. EVANS said he could never see the use of it. The CHAIRMAN said it was an interesting document to doubt, but in a pecuniary point of view it was of no use. Mr: AKIN said the account was of the most essential ser vice to the dock estate, and when the time came he should be prepared to shew its value. The CHAIRMAN said he could not see how it would lead to profit. • Mr. ATKIN replied it would be of service if they were to go to parliament, or if they came to reduce or cqualise the rates. After a few words from several of the members, the sub ject dropped, and the committee separated. SINGULAR ROBBERY. —During the night of Saturday last the counting-house of Mr. Williamson, of Tranmere, was broken into, and although there was a quantity of valuable property, nothinr , was stolen but the account books. A few days afterwards information was conveyed to Groves, one of the police, that a bundle of books had been found on the shore at Wallasey ; and on the officer going to enquire at the house of a person named Davis, after encountering some difficulty he succeeded in recovering the lost ledgers, &c. The books had probably been in the river, as they were quite wet and tied together, so that it would seem to have been the intention of the party to destroy them. Mr. Williamson had offered a reward of £lO for the recovery. PRETTY SIMILE Simm.--The favours which you pursue are A. your own shadow. Follow them, you cannot catch them turn away from them, they will follow you. A DREAM REALIZED.—It is related in " Collins's Peer age," that a certain unmarried lady once dreamed of finding a nest containing seven young finches, which in course of time was realized by her becoming the wife of a 111 r. Finch, and mother of seven children. From one of these nestlings is descended the present Earl of Winchelsea, who still retains the surname of Finch. " " Ne- AN AMERICAN WIFE.—" You ought to marry• ver." " I know a good girl for you." " Let me alone." " She is young." " Then she is sly." " Beautiful." " The more dangerous." "Of good family." " Then she is proud." " Tender hearted." " Then she is jealous." " She has talents." "To kill me." " And one hundred thousand dollars." " I will take her."—American paper. If you desire to know whether the day will be fine, take a walk of a few miles into the country, until you come to a field where cows are grazing, and if the animals turn their tails to the wind, be sure it wil l be stormy, if they turn their faces it will be fine ; but, if some stand one way, and some the other, you bad better toss up, and accordingly as the coin gives you heads or tails, you will be able to solve the problem. THE FIRESIDES OF OLD ENGLAND.—GO as deep as you please in the cause of the magnificent position which this scrubby isle of Albion holds among the nations of the earth, do you not find coal at the bottom of them? And much as we confess ourselves indebted to old King Alfred, do we not acknowledge ourselves infinitely more indebted to old King Coal ?—Blaektvood's Magazine. Some months ago, an old Peninsula and Waterloo officer applied to Lord Hill for an ensigncy for his son without pur chase. The candidate's name was placed on the crowded list at the Horse Guards, with a promise of early notice. On the Duke succeeding Lord Hill, his Grace's old follower again applied through an influential channel. The pithy but gratifying answer was, " The Duke has anticipated your wishes." The lucky candidate will be gazetted to an old and distinguished corps on the Indian station in a few days. Here is a proof that " the Duke " bas not forgotten his old followers.—Limerick Chronicle. ~.. CORRESPONDENCE. "WHAT IS THE CHURCH? TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. Sto,—Your correspondent " A Church of England Chris tian" asks an important question in a grave and serious manner. He asks, " What is the church ?" It demands a careful and serious reply. This, I have little doubt, will be given to it, by some of those to whom he specially appeals, more particularly by " A. M.," whose style and calm de monstrative manner plainly evince him to be a man " of power, of love, and of a sound mind." It seemeth good to me also, though I cannot claim " more perfect understand ing of these things," to say a word to your querist ; and in so doing, I would simply appeal to three authorities for an answer to the question, " What is the church ? " First, to Scripture; secondly, to the article of the Church of Eng land; and thirdly, to one of our venerable reformers. First, what saith the Scripture? St. Paul replies, in Ist Timothy, iii. 15, " The house of God, which is, the church of the living God, th e pill ar an d groun d o f te truth ; " " cs.6xo; xai hki:vp.is"—" a pillar" to perpetuate, and " a ground " to maintain and uphold ; distinctly referring to an external organised company of persons professing the faith which is in Christ Jesus—a baptised community; and to this external body agree the words of the same apostle in Ist Cor. xii. 28, " And God hath set some in the church : first, apostles; secondarily, prophets," &c., referring to an existing ordained ministry. But, as in ancient days they were " not all Israel " be lieving who were " of Israel " circumcised, so now likewise they are not all of the church spiritual who are of the church external—i.e., there is a saved company of genuine believers within this company of bapthed professors—" a wheel within a wheel" ; and as the large body is external and easily dis cerned, so this inner and smaller company is invisible, and •not discernible to man's eye. Of this inner and unseen body the Bible speaks more frequently, and denominates it " the church" : for this see Ephesians i. 22-3, " And gave him (Christ) to be head over all things to the church, which is his body," and of this " body" St. Paul speaks again in the same epistle, chap. iv. 4,5, 6, " There is one body," &c.; and again, chap. v. 23, " Christ is the head of the church." I could multiply passages on this bead. Now what saith the 19th article of the Church of Eng land? " The visible church of Christ is a congregation of faithful men, in the which the pure word of God is preached, and the sacraments be duly ministered according to Christ's ordinance," &c. &c. This article, from its use of the word " visible," evidently refers to the external and organised company, and not to the inner and saved body. What saith the judicious Hooker? " That church of Christ, which we properly term his body mystical, can be but one ; neither can that one be sensibly discerned by any man, inasmuch as the parts thereof are some in heaven al ready with Christ, and the rest that are on earth (albeit their natural persons are visible) we do not discern under this property whereby they are truly and infallibly of that body." Hooker here distinctly speaks of the saved and in visible company. Again, he says :—" The visible church of Christ is therefore one, in outward profession of those things which supernaturally appertain to the very essence of Chris tianity, and are necessarily required in every particular Christian man." Here he as distinctly speaks of the bap tised community. . And now, sir, there appears to be a third sense in which the term " the church " is used in Scripture, viz., certain local companies of believers, who were in the habit of meet ing together for mutual edification, sometimes in each others' houses. So we read, Rom. xvi. 5, " Likewise greet the church that is in their house ;" and Ist Cor. xvi. 19. So, then, here are three senses in which the term " the church" is used : one of them spoken of in the 19th article, two of them spoken of by Hooker, and the three spoken of in the Bible : and if your correspondent inquire to which of these three I think those words in St. Matthew, xviii. 17, " But if he neglect to hear the church," belong, I have no hesitation in saying, to the latter; the Saviour plainly di recting the man, after remonstrating with his offending bro ther in private, then to take with him two or three Christian friends, and if all failed, then, in the l as t resor t, to l ay t h e matte/before the little local company of believers who might assemble in his house or neighbourhood ; Christ never, I believe, having constituted an ecclesiastical tribunal to take cognisance of secular offences.—l am, sir, &c., Nov. Bth, 1812. `'INDEX ECCLESLE. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. think your correspondent, " A. M.," will see that, admitting the meaning which " Hear the Church ! " was adduced to sustain, and which I proved to be legitimate by two pertinent quotations, the form also of the text is not strained or unnatural, seeing that the words " If he neglect to hear the Church" is a plain injunction to " Hear the Church," and only expresses the whole sentence in a short compass ; and that " Top knot, come down," is by no means a parallel instance, inasmuch as it introduces a meaning quite different from its context. Mr. Dodsworth's sermon, price 3d., will afford the requi site information as to what is the Church.---Your's, &c. CLERIC US. THE MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS OF 1843. TO TIIE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. Now that the excitement occasio.,ed by our annual blister, the municipal elections, has nearly passed away, and the minds of men are sobered down to a state of calm reflection, it may, perhaps, not be deemed wholly improper to take a survey of the prospects of conservatism in this town for the ensuing year; and he must be a poor prophet indeed who cannot foretel that on the Ist of November, 1843, the sixteen wards will be gained by that powerful and rapidly increasing party. I turn first to Everton, in this ward a conservative retires, and it would indeed be idle to suppose, if that gentle man again offers himself, that there would be even a shadow of opposition ; the radicals know well their lamentable state of weakness in this ward, and will be careful not to betray it to the world by a contest. Scotland Ward, which has just returned Mr. Houghton without opposition, will not stultify itself by re-electing the retiring councillor, Mr. Thornhill ,will be relieved from labours that during the last twelve months must have been most irksome to him ; and in the bar parlour of the Castle Inn North, he will be more in his ele ment, and will there meet with congenial spirits, and over a glass or two of "cold without" "fight all his battles o'er again." Vauxhall, notwithstandinc , appearances, is safe 'for its present respected representative, he has only to offer him self, and opposition will _ieureely be thought of. In Saint Paul's the Pame alone of Blundell forbids the thought e'en opposing candidate. The same may be said of Exchange, where Mr. Sands is sure of being returned as triumphantly as was the, " true tory John North." Castle-street "bides her time.", she longs,to be relieved from her radical thral dom, and if our own party remain true to their colours, next November Castle- street must be our own. I now turn to the ward of wards, the far famed St. Pete r ' s , the Gibraltar of reform; here .radicalism is defunct—its ghost will not even raise its head on the first of next November; and I have only to say to those excellent friends of mine who have hitherto worked it so well. " go on, and prosper." Pitt-street may be dismissed in a very few words. An ignorant, inflated person has, by dint of misrepresentation, given the, radical party a temporary and short-lived triumph. To that notorious personage I say— M'Clellan, M'Clellan ! beware of the day, When the tories next meet thee in battle array ; When the chief who first conquer'd a Rathbone in fight. Shall wave " the bright banner"—prepare thee for flight! Great George Ward has "nobly done its duty," and is ready to do it again ; no radical has here the shadow of a chance. Rodney-street, Abercromby, and Lime-street are all safe for their respective retiring councillors, should those gentle men again offer themselves ; they have given general satis faction, and it is best "to let well alone." Saint Anne's Ward will doubtless be contested warmly, the adverse par ties being more equal there than in any other ward; but if I may judge of the future by the past, it will be long before St. Anne's returns a radical to the town council. My re mark respecting Great George Ward applies also to that of West Derby : here genuine toryism has triumphed, and in -this ward trimmers and shuffiers will not find " rest for the soles of their feet." " Coming events cast their shadows before :"—the return of Mr. Lace for South Toxteth is a warning to Mr. John Platt ; and South Toxteth will in No vember be wholly conservative. In North Toxteth radical ism expired with the return of Mr. John Sheppard; and the hand that pens this paragraph will be mouldered into dust, long ere another radical sits for North Toxteth Ward. I have thus glanced rapidly at the sixteen, and we con win them all if we like ; bnt to do this we must agitate unceas ingly. from the 2d of November, 1842, to the Ist of Novem ber, 1843. The names of our candidates must be familiar in our mouths "as ho use h o ld words." No exertion . must be spared. Seven years ago there were only five tories in the town council, and we must never cease agitation until the radical minority has dwindled to the same amount. Then let us see whether that party, in the course of seven years, can, by untiring perseverance, convert five into forty-seven. If the radicals can do this, I for one shall exclaim that " the age of miracles has not passed away." I am, sir, yours, &c., AN ELECTOR OF EVERTON. Nov. 91h, 1842. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. So. ' —A letter appeared in your paper of the B th instant, signed " Arithmeticus ;" and to the question your corres pondent proposes, I beg to reply, that by such a speculation he would lose the sum of £3,333 Gs. Sd., as follows :—The cost of 100 bars of gold, at the rate of two for £lOOO, which is equal to £3OO per bar, would be £50,000 ; 100 ditto, at the rate of three for XlOOO, equal to £333 6s. Bd. per bar, would be £33,333 Gs. Bd., making a to tal cost of £83,333 s. Bd. ; the proceeds of 200 bars at five for £2OOO, or £4OO per bar, is £BO,OOO, deduct which from the cost price, and you have a loss of £3,333 6s. Sd. Any other question " Arithrneticus" wants answered, he has only to send a similar letter to you r journal, and I shall be happy to oblige him. Yours ' respectfully, A CONSTANT READER. [We have received several other letters in answer to our correspondent's question, but this is sufficient.] DESTRUCTIVE FIRE AT MANCHESTER. —(Further parti culars.) —An account appeared in our paper of Tuesday, of the destruction of a cotton-mill, and the melancholy loss of several lives, at Manchester, on Friday. The coro ner's jury returned a verdict on five of the bodies, " that they came to their deaths by burning and suffocation, through a fi r e accidentally taking place i n th e w ill ow i n Messrs. C- Pooley and Co's mill ; but how the fire originated therein there was no evidence before them." The inquiry occupied four hours. The total damage is estimated at £ll,OOO. We believe that the loss will prove to he fully covered by the in surances. The matters and amounts insured are :—Machi nary, £9,800 ; building, A:5,000 ; stock, £1,400 ; millwork, £600; and boilers, £2OO. It will be recollected that a fort night ago the various insurance offices advanced their rates of premium on cotton mills about Os. per cent. and the pre sent rates we believe are 265. (including duty) 011 the mills spinning lower than 40s. (and we believe in this mill the num bers spun were chiefly 40's and 38's) and on t he fine mills, that is, 40's and all higher numbers, 21's per on , : ISLANDS. —Nothing OF THE GOSPEL IN THE SOU race c%ll appear —Nothing in the history of the human extraordinary than the auspices of the chiefs in gation of the gospel. Christian to motives system ungu e s the reflecting mind more gratifying or establishmentt eislandsof the of a South mission Se fort et the w lt e mreafyarbferog m ran b t e e i d ng tl e ia n t li t g h h e t ij• n d oti w en h s i 7o e f t n h th ei e r That in reference more especially m en , is not con this was the case to a very considerable tionably retained a strong mixture I.doefrltehelytingtred.ients. of Archipelago,describe the the cea t l h e e d t h w y o their clustersinstructors,ofSocietywho, to the religion of the greater part of people as being at first merely nominal, and that tb tb a e n that pro fession required abstinence at t k h n e e t w i mleitttlheey more ,t assumed aonafndi of Christianity, they it no e 11(1 n a e n d s t a l w fi c o e r s s: p o o o f ffe o r n i e n gGeoxcle except t s t p e r a a d y o e r f 1 from labour every seventh day. The change applied almost so l e ly to the outward observance, and had not yet reached either the decisions of the understanding or the feelings of the heart. Still it was a most important revolution, which m ust necessarily be followed by a movement in advance. Idolatry could not again resume its empire • the chain of the captive has been broken; anti the appetite for newviews both in human arts and divine knowledge would necessarily seek gratification at all hazards. The result corresponds in no small degreeiwith this anticipation ;' the tree planted among them by the missionaries has brought forth both good and evil fruit ; tares have grown up with the wheat, but the land is no longer a desert ; and the ample produce denotes at least the inherent powers of the soil.—Edinburgh Cabinet Library, No. XXXIII. Polynesia. 1