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teart-teaehing.of Him who rissole, and who Mane can change the heart,) with the rectnicilim; and sanctifying depths of the Trinity, the Incarnation, and the Atonement. (Loud cheers.) .4 e do press these prehen s i on of upon the vom its mind, althou g h th e com the pupil is ove r b orne b y t h em. iss— press them not upon t h e reasonable creator not creatur e also, w h ere G o d h as a r i ght to In mind as th well as every other power belansing to him. For is r eason, then •v e cannot agree with those who think that the deep and obscure and inysterons doctrines of the Gospel anshould be kept hack from ‘ the children's mind. I pray you t oti e i ni , her this, for it is very plausible to say that • s people ongs ' u t i Mly learn as they are able to understand ; and it be the modern philosophers of these times . to transfer what is true about secular things, and apply it, where it. c o e f a t ' h e: tdo.fih.e true, to sacred things. ' (Cheers.) I wia e ri s i t y sn o t ta l '' ' e retlee• 'Upon this account it is that Is 4.00 f from s h ' •And now I come to the thi rd clas s. that scool. (Hear.) With regard to the third general class I will read the se eotad r esolutio n passed at the meeting before referred to : .shi t l i, T hat ally fe s i s l atise enaetinent for tie promotion ,•' - wi thhe lint ; to one religious denomination advantages opposo. rora others, would be unjust, and ought to be ~.., That is equality All among the third school. (Hear.) . All that the is such arguments and assertions procerd upon the suppositioi i i nothing here upon earth higher than the ruin( I .A. t ' s ; that there is tio such thing as divine revelation, — M r ' °,1,1c4v.,, no, I deny that. gsiar'ts Natiot.—Nly sentence was not tinished,—or, I was lion, -° saY,—or, if there be such a thing us divine rev ia l y a. - - _; s there is no such thing as any man or class of men justify it such a certainty of what is revealed truth, as to . re tirttPioaitti:lt,ll,er i t 1 " in exercising their influence and authority in pressing n'en, or upon children. (Cheers.) if divine then sure] be so uncertain that no man canknow infidelity what it is. Ishi oti s it is practically useless ; a ofconclusion,admit. Oli the they it I now speak of would be unwilling . to „lan .othet hand, if divine revelation be so certainss that a G sr pinay and know htt is, God has said then, to e t IszstriYing upon other 711C11 is not tyranny but . ; h tduty u os ti ie , n Y ait true charity. (Great cheers.) In this view_ a t ihdi,freatter divine truth in a faller, world becomes not w w l .ta. t h e Ll,ellt men would make it, an empty scabbard, but what Sir, I°ll r has declared oit to be, a sharp sword. (Cheers.) , a fair d.. , ti I education at 1113 1 3 0111 t 13.1ectioti of the question of meons, h be in vesti.,a,_ ,dmatids that the rights of children s o f ] parents • th e r ' ei rl avid attended to, as well as the rights . 9 are a l i l , ) , ° l us tight s of children as well as their civil and seak speaker Cor ansttii•lt's (Hear.) It was argued by another p 4 is bill that— ,sasster P"ticii of human aligations ought to be left to individu t a o tru,t ,e,tiiiii the lar , er the oortion of such obligations, they dared ' , ittle r i i ' tveclui,4l,-v•dual conscience, and with safety, tha bs.., A treeti. ..e the state of society. what is it ' l et us iti s t his Principle we agree most cordially :and . . ndis liensahle "'"•• that has rendered legislative interferenGe . i ~ so , fa „asit x'reaen between parent and child, thus weakenit i ii,., ot. •"eteri e -en ds, the independent manliness of the nationa ..t s o l ra affection ' n atead of placing implicit reliance upon the ns ioutd l neee ssar ,ced tender tnanasement of parents, it has been chiliirel} t°around , , throw a shield of legislative protection nf their guard guard them against the covetousness and cruelty tm_ English ,arents. (Hear.) And what . has forced t t t i i i ; de. titor,C,`,'lne of proceeding upon the legislature, bu which ()s r iiL4"rig factory systeni—(hear, hear)—a sstem ' r the fai r tin'ir,al agitators for free trade desire to e x t e nd ov .. e ..rs of fs ts ii i is of the whole . country? (Hear.) The an"dtvi.. dual vbteingaged hi that - vstein are no longer left to . in littl e ',,til„','„atiee• The ' ' erences of parents to theirmake i Nis, -u rels slaves, t p o re ihe injury of their health am fno \. 'oeh-;''' Paine longer allowed to have Undisputed sway. (Hear., ri glits t e nts are conipelled to feel that their childrep l. • h t " re e takes 40i,e1l as thmselves, and that a paternal leg i l l s o , r i oa u ne t han s ues In ettY of supposing itself wiser and more , . c...., aita pas3a•Parerits. It interposes between parent aod t.oo hild of t he os e " and publishes laws at once for the instruc i sta te in and the protection of the other. (Hear, hear . ..) , The and elaj ois an ° ,l d°lll g Presumes a right standard of human s , to that s•lorlty to compel reluctant parents to conform .. 1 of th e ' aOdard, for the good of their children personialo . , :, a t i i v e ten ‘.!opnuilinity generally. (Hear.) What elsei, ",,,oletla legi,l, l %. s e .Lill" but an exercise of such wise and ‘.enee is re fscog,-4eud iiiterference ? (Applause.) This t) principle labour, but ''l so wi th ' not only in its application to physical cos ' referenc to I ools so far as secular instructions I'l,ll theerflie,ld• Certain b c oo ' ks a ' re prepared by authority, and " ' e ts (' I•4lre n who attend are compelled to read l them to . „ e° hsalt sare not c onsulted ; it would be worse than . uselesignorants ' a Prie e itich Parents, or to be influenced by their ,„__, thel l 3,' dc'weversiueerely entertained. (Hear, hear.) Vs hy ,, , ni c i "old this .* • - wisely and beneficially recor be s li d ptinciple so tl ie I li h acted t e opon in all ' other respects, be repudiated n g i veti u s e '"" all respects ?—why should it be ostentatiously eovets,L ill the matter of ieligiona instruction? (Hear.) his 21s child' - °r billed is allowed to injure . , a hod parent not ° _, l Purs -• Yt Yco ll' it over labour, or depriving it 40j, " air. •p, , olPe ing to is praised for so i ''g. b„,. s'ie legislature interposes, and A re 11 . so i an infidel or idolatrous parent is allowe .d to in le,isi :' el'ild'ti soul, by deprivingit of divine truth, and if the cat a(Trre attempt to interpose, is denounced as tyratini ectaiserar•) I ask why is thi ' s? Have we a clear and re- f all ihen standard m before which it is the duty . 0 aPdsPaterht°,,i b ow ' n and before which it is becoming m a wise d h,,--"' government to compel cruel recusants to bow . ver se i s s t e t we no such standard of religion? The very !e.- '" hav le !..at• Religion is the only subject upon which whi, y,3i,,_ j e an infallible standard ; the only subject upon of ell In'eetis been uttered xi ion earth, which it is the duty f for lah„!rerY where to obey. Concerning the time allowable se r i ous tsr; and the time needful for rest and recreatton ini, et owd e d 4 " 3 t2encerning the state of the atmosphere the tr,„ stti _ n roo ms Vhich may still he innoccuous, and llealth ; 4ad c oo ° cer" e "'heti it becomes injurious to human of the best i astrs eto , i r uilg all kindred questions, the opinions ; and tve h os " and most competent men may and dodiffer , Idsed ti ti ,, i n._'no standard, no rectifying tribunal, of acknow e 6 'I i met t e' r u ,tnorit y t o aPpeal to. Nevertheless we legislate. i vel at i o ‘ Of religion we should be similarly situated, it no la,- tOdeed 4 r . l44 ever been made of the divine will. But if it he itillY plea t4 at 4lLuightv God himself has been merci -41 it , o in. k. - t' ato men, and to desire . , that it 5 1 1 ' 2 Q communica im • then, are ''e not s i gull he made Isnown to children , and Ise iunarlY situated 1 We hays a standard . here,Lion t hat it ; ve nture to aflirm, without fear of refutation, that eats is sa s' s the right, the divine right, of every phil , d , ..t (th ee ;:' , to be made acquainted with God's most holy th e e 417.). But, sir, to whom is the duty intrusted of putting the 4 ln PO- .' • Doubtless primarily to e paret„ s,session of his right? . parent be tilies pabi aMs its n State of uncivilized life, if t he, ,e , , fo r it, there r u r , ‘ „,; ! , ~,- -; 'Log to nerform his duty, there is no t ,o n 4'et-; ' i3 r pOwer on earth, no controlling s , - tes t .1-, no progressi-e impresement, it must be like pa nimiits. e child. I3ut ti . iide gLernmgnt i. a civilizing, hat- Ch • '.llg, improvin ra - - government professing , suitian., g government ; a g there is IN l4, moreover, there is a higher power; .. a control,Pare„ not interfering with right-minded Christian lig eo " t l-3 . , but isiosS properly interfering with barbarous, !leg: 4 ' te 1,4" anti-Christian parents : interfering at ieast . so far the wut the children ill possession of their best birthright— The of . God. The establishment, as it is called, of the reti ce " 11 ( thatch by the state, is the great legislative interfe . - is for the • and it ,s s t •,_ . a ccomplishment of this good purpose ; :Air es `s', analogous t the ten hours' bill, aud other mea ls 1 °fPatertiett sta t ion ra i This analogy ~oudhr 1 , eg in t inns tempo . the re -coca," ?Otrashly, denied by our opponents ; and P the u giverl to the Established Church, is evidently le sa reae r of their grievance.. Against this they speak with . the ,. or " N:' and mortificatiOn of a degraded class. (Loud moo, t s,,qlos t ./I; 40," and some interruption.) " Toleration! t . 01e 7 N t, . t tot ,exclaimed they with indignation, " toleration . 1 . °east Id ea l is d egradation?" (Great cheering.) Their ;lad j udi 7l Of religious liberty is that all creeds, good, b . ad . , 4 Pra4rrent, should be treated alike—that is to sac, vit is t net by Cal rejection of the Bible, .(Great cries of " No, lask,1 ask, wheounter cries of ` Ye 3;" and C1ie.21:3.) Who, I would -lave they notedsn this way about degradation ? (Hear, bear.) e dist'enY hemselves told us, and told us loudly it tha d t 1tat,41.--i ctions conferred on the clergy of the Estaboshe (Ch eer th e , ar e carnal ? ( Cheer s. s Have they not referred us eer, .) sa:h e Poverty o f th - rls er g. \ Have e apostles as a Christian ornament h t they de h"tloe, a ' s , they not contrasted it with w st , . . h e ar.) 1. / toe unchristian riches of our bishops . (Hear , -k ul all a" th eY not spoken with the condemnation of scorn •.'ttct g t .„„,' Sod concerninall, the dignities of worldly rank Air' icqueur? (c h • this s complain. ( I st ssf s t i, s _ eers. Well, if be so, why garments? ' t iss et o l ee s , ) i7,11,re deprived of these Babylonisligas provi. and whi c h i ' l 'i rt;s't . retlier be thankful for the kind temptation, .. v, conferred as shielded them from so. much ... their'l°erty, and de them theof primitive glorlonii prrilt,ege .. se , o degradation • ridpersecution ) (Cheers,) 'other at th„ ; 'to at ou r ••, d. . their complaints 01 it r own , __s. .positiota is affectation, or (Hear hear.) One titn i; t i e . e ponk e P r o I sattio n th a e re moetioa inconsistent. from which I have already A se (i r ' 441 , lerish/.l,ll!al,itttle attention to the I ist y of legislation on this subject t (.42,11, 11 "El to the conch • -1 . tl or t th is iirticultir bill was, in fact, , L ,Ytts h,,,,er kte a „,, usi . en la i p •-te th '-', tiv, „ er ", a most wily plan for church extension.. , . (Cheers.) nt b It e „ en Be, r 4 , -rs 4go that a bill was introduced into parliame bill. v ' ll l.-- ii bi n a'? Of SULL.? tor the Home Department (d..ord John im io _ lueli b..lv national Ut 'ifs tog then ped M. its prmcipl . es e — .... I ke , ;I Provi,lX.Mt OU . t. 9. classes togethei• 6tt art eto4l prinitp . i r , 4o m i ,,o t Uld ,ii,:e!?r theiy joint education in a manner from whit it,,,,, r eilleie 0:1's-which gave full power 0 every religious party to tif ' () .vlsi en , 11 children in. their own wav—and that bill, national in 44, 1 '?gla nd ~.arld national in its s irit, wag thrown out by the church :I ' °e •iat,;,,' l ' d d t e,(l and abetted, ha P grieved to say, by the Wesleyan r'f a ll ‘ l4 ~c . ," taPtists. (Hear.) li,;‘:onizzie,..,4'oll here'refere'd to, in the debate in the House 'at" t 's' e ll's e?„'4,4Ord Stanley's' , motion against Lord John ""ele a d •7eatton tneasuie` the Right Hon. Baronet now Wiii t ' • of her Mate t'' ' '• ' l nmen' . Laid, ts aa , re s Dee • t , s 7 a go‘ . e , , Po Mier' Plaq from t he established church, I hopc, rather than con sen t gakare, which e• 1 • ' •- r thority is excluded, it would 1 NI 'latto ce esiastica au . . s,, i _v eri, . gether from the state on Mi., point; that it would irj,,,7 .11,,,,„a'°10). the people into its own hands; that it would not tlideiL. but t;', / ,„" s `!tiog on the publication of its own peculiar doe : `W , eti r - .,' a Would demand 'that the highest respect t i d e 'l9igi eli A.:. Powtr, by Itt ben) , in in the minds ofchildren x ter th e ,9rued tbe'b `l's of • I 'll'' edneation. I very much doubt 14 1 i, iiw ien lrineike, of c j ,` .) Faithl; 4 ../ thus inculcated tuuong tk 4) tZ th e ' " good , :O , ?B,tt . ati osall g ~: b ' c'Cilied 'as by is ie , lti i t ,„„ ~ a cuanc e of hainiony woul not C s,, . ,,,,. itp, t , t, oe 4 14 ,, ,, reli g i Qn i e , ail open nestion • and that each o, them f° ' that l ' ete d bY a mid ist hi sl creed' on n certain day set ',,lach, purp ose iPr of oryu reel f er e, and • 1111,,i \ eli te ,. ~ doubtless still are the sentiments of Sir Robert earl -I ti ll , ,/ and we • • • ' assurance that now no fbe Prof re o-rej ecti rejoice in the Lord John Russell ats re 4 ) , 0t , , sing measures as that of add, of the Kati the Government, or carried by the tebis fes4 t e i ss ro yse ,,,nati on , (Cheers.) And here, sir, I would nkly con• keh o 'e detonl: esPecially to the Wesleya . ns. I fra , ie,,l to o a. ave which the bill will occasion to some of sour els ti ris c etab i i , let roe ask, , for what purpose came your i' a 2 i )( )Or Or ; B h e d ; Was it not for the christian education . kras`t ) l'elti es . ollbtlesa it teas, and not for the building up r ot . ..to th Interegta Of bill oval. iMear. d ;suppose it ' l git e•reBtil ; e y n e't t ' , 4 t /Ilia' bill will 'Operate against 'Yiiiir class n o ve t th e ,_,. unless- You can show that it with perate 111.tecilod cli'llr!tiatt education of the people, you can show With 5 ' You anti 'n reason for opposing it. (Hear, hear.) (Il e 9 ot al ly 17 ot amongst those who seek their own things, tir ly sear S urely t'the ly consideration of the things of others. lia se tclod d o You are not anion g those who are envious of th 0 goide,tle. unless done by yourselves. And now you rs 4y t notis eri 'n' epPortunity of showing the true elevation of , 41 A L 6 e l.; We hays4lPrlPciples by which you arc actuated. You 71. ' 1-- ;-7 9f s ervic e B ` ll-) Plieil foe a season, as far as we could, lid' std , 116 U, tta nd . . 0 lure i and . we . . we 141'4". Them the gap, and by all our energies to stay Of e, Otis best. work, indeed, was too heavy for us, but Pi v( . ;:! 4 4i11,,fr j„,,. Now, the State is roused to the necessity 1)1 "rse .- "I suia Work '•' ' '- as we could not 'la tl' "na triand , with a power such .4,1 4 c , the e stab ,. s , e , and instead of employing us, she em .4ed 11. ° r stiso courseL' 4 d church as her agent. What, then, is Perk u rtnit • :lsitto be contentious, and envious , . , ru b , , .. , ss%T eo s•a• Isi s ss,, oi is to be thankful that now, at last, the v ' e t,tsall y do "el to do, and endeavoured to d o, but could not l ie,e'i t ;Veuid r i e Ls , k9 be effectually done by others ? If you say, A l et , .. B , l) Oiled , .. l ‘ u 'e,e to the work done," . but we grieve to fhe' 1 ,, r ,,,', 1, Qat ! ' '' i , ' spoiled it . must be bV 'the established church Ski Thlo ll '-. P r e'sent sei l v ' •• ' - ' a ' t endure of ng tith, grouse child ' 'ipopisn state; we cannot .. ) 1 , 4 L i ; n _. ingest ren for N.vhoial we have so lon e , toiled rik ta.. .ar t i ofti. our ution, and' consigned to the care . Moil s ( lan, wi u stees, the official rhairman of which is a if ` 4 0;, , , s L ; 1° randeri3ll9 tii .• /I the Reformation. 4 i 10,4 say ' s desire i , ~ s e tit int . p.e of . , h ,, 4.1 40 dy thi s . so si.nprolestantise the English enure • ta ktn Illi of . • gree with 'you' ins this With all my heart I w oi nsfi e o i''';` l , l -f l i b geved th 't (. .1' i ,i' ‘.ic:ere indeed cha trice . 1 14 iid, o 7 , e. Ptery 'Of ti.in t u ' . i l. 71 11 5 5 as a body, or n t heir h a te nothin ~..es 110 . 13 ed church,. il l tvel l a , r hand,. brit g Plat this `face power or Milts beat a. few uo zoo swano to this so ? Rausero o er is il at one 1 < 4 , tlS th i? r erß° ° , Of W l ' dOn t make a summer, Remember any, a e - tlre i el- 4°Velt 10Vt1 peculiarities seem to . be in lia- Lbe y , l ea,rd of Y makes them active and their pee° large t a `u tne c ' t i every side Remember ' that in so h, ur se' . oas the clef, *I, th e a Ppr ov ' out o hav e a ot toe sstigiish chore either side of ~, p ro _, ed e a few peculiarities, on - s,sd s .imste Path of truth and wisdom. Remember also . 41 1 • e ° ill i Pr"Okin movement, 50 ro ern t o g ratic , g cause of this Tractarian g ugbl.' e nt of t i qing proof of the general and r Wa " tt, teal ' le cler of true . , eras T ?asi o , in , „ . gY as a body. The influence a.,,e eve T y. • 4 . olds' church was on the . incre s . cd for i ' :'• °lnd quiescence, vhich claim ecause we lone, but upon -.al Of butes and and the itself worldly reOpeotabillty, was losing ground. The fox• hunting, and card-playing, and backgammon-playing, and Sunday newspaper-reading, tribes were at a discount. What was to be done ? What new aspect could the natural man assume to hold his ground, and, if possible, regain his influ ence ? Ritualism, formalism, phariseeism, these having a semblance of piety, might answer his purpose for a time. They have done so. They have ensnared the unwary through a professed regard to the orders and authority of the church. They have intoxicated a few young men, presenting to them a short cut to supposed influence, influence derived from office, not from character. But do you seriously be lieve that these things have made an impression upon the body of the church, so as to characterise her general teach ing ? There is no evidence of any such thing. A flagrant instance here and there may be cited ; but compared with the hundreds of sound men, who teach the articles of the church as they are, such an instance may be truly called " rara axis in terris ;" I may appropriately finish the quotation, " nigro que simillima cygno."---The rev. gentleman 'proceeded at considerably further length on this subject, in the course of which he quoted a letter to the Wesleyans on the Education Bill, just published by Simpkin and Marshall, but in the observations we have given the substance of his argument will be found. lam anxious, he then proceeded, that you should yet bear with me a little longer. (Hear.) I proceed now to the fourth class ; to address those who agree with us in the main upon this question, but who differ with us, and among one another, about the particular enact ments of this bill. There are some extreme churchmen who seem desirous of joining in the cry of extreme anti-church men, that it should be thrown out altogether. (Hear.) This, I apprehend, is out of the question, seeing that it has passed the second reading in the House of Commons, and that, therefore, the principle of the bill is already affirmed by parliament. Granting, therefore, for argument sake, that it would have been originally wiser or safer for the government to have availed themselves of the two great existing edu cational societies, the National Society and the British and Foreign School Society, and to have made them their agents in carrying out more vigorously and universally the education of the people ; the advocates of such a view should now re member, like wise practical men, that it is too late, and should see that their alternative is now not between this bill and no hill, neither is it between this bill and a better bill, but it is between this bill and a worse. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) They should also take into their consideration the present state of the factory law as regards education, and the suggestions for improvement which have been laid before the legislature by persons who, from their personal observation of the working and deficiency of the present system, are best qualified to form a correct and comprehen sive judgment. (Hear, hear.) The present factory act was passed in the session of 1833, and the educational clauses came partially into operation early in 1834 ; but they did not apply to their full extent until the spring of 1836; and in consequence of proceedings then pending before parliament, they were not really in operation till the month of June 1836. In 1838, on the motion of Mr. Grote, there was a Return to en address of the Honourable the House of Commons, dated 15th August, 18:38 : —That her Majesty would be graciously pleased to give directions, that each of the four factory inspectors do report separately, at the period of his quarterly general report, on the effects of the educational provisions of the Factories' Act, as exemplified in not less than twelve of the schools situated in his district, in which those provisions have been observed in the most efficient manner; rind that the four factory inspectors do make a joint report, as to any modi fication of the existing educational provisions of the Factories' Act, which may appear to them desirable. In consequence of that address reports were made by Mr. Horner, Mr. Howell, Mr. Saunders and Mr. Stew art, the Inspectors of Factories; and iu conclusion there is a joint report in which they all fire agree. In Mr. Horner's repot t I find this passage— As the law has made it obligatory on parents to send their children to school, if they are to be employed in a factor•, it is neither equitable . nor consistent legislation to impose this obligation without affording the means of its being fulfilled, by providing suitable schools where none exist. It is nut unreasonable to require parents to reserve a small portion of their children's weekly earnings to pay for their edu cation; but as the parents of such children cannot unite to build and furnish a school, it must be done for them. Unless, therefore, good primary schools be establishcl generally throu4hout the country, or unless schools be specially provided for factory children at the public expense, the educational provisions mustcontinue to be inefficient in by far the greatest proportion of instances, except where good schools are voluntarily kept on their premises by the proprietors. Observe the practical suggestion of this inspector ; and this suggestion we shall find made into one of the provisions of the bill now before parliament, upon the recommendation of the inspector. The same gentleman, Mr. Leonard Horner, say s, At present, factory schools on the premises are established either by the liberality or benevolence of the owners, or because it is the most conve nient arrangement for their works, or from both motives combined. But this only happens in large establishments, . where the number of children employed is considerable. It is in those factories where the number is small that the educational provisions are in general carried into operation with the least efficiency; and, although we do not hesi tate to interfere when the compliance is merely formal, we are often obliged to acquiesce with a very imperfect fulfilment of the spirit of the law, because no better system of schooling is within reach. For instance, it is not at all an unusual thing . to have certificates presented to us, subscribed by the teacher, with his or her " mark;" this generally hap pens in the case of female teachers, but they are held to be equal in qualification to the majority of those who keep " dame-schools " In the last quarter I had a school voucherpresented to me with a " mark," and when I called on the schoolmaster to read it before me be could not. It had been written out by the clerk of the factory, and the school master had been called to put his mark to it. I have had to reject the school voucher of the fireman, the children having been schooled in the coal-hole, (in one case 1 actually found them there,) and having been made to say a lesson, from books nearly as black as the fuel. in the in tervals between his feeding and stirring the fire of the engine boiler. It may be supposed that such a thing could only happen at the mill of some poor ignorant man ; but that, I am sorry to say, was not the case ; it occurred at factories where a large capital must be embarked. (Hear, hear.) This was the way they met the letter of the law. Mr. Howell says in his report— Where good schools are open to factory children I do not observe any reluctance on the part of the parents, that they should be sent to such schools, although the parents are, of course, disinclined to pay a twelfth part of their children's earnings, in order that they may remain two hours every day, with a tattered spelling book in their hands, in some room which is called a school, under the valueless tuition of the over looker 's wife or daughter, or some other ignorant person who is meta morphored into u teacher for the purpose of a literal compliance with the educational provisions of the Factories' Act. (Hear, hear.) In Mr. Saunder's report there is an account from the mill of Nlessrs. Rawson, at Sowerby Bridge, in which the mill occupiers make the following suggestions : As long as the act simply prescribe! " teaching to read,", I do not see what improvement eould be made upon th, - ; present A better class of masters appears required to give " a sound, religious; and moral edu cation ;" but, excepting . in very large connected manufactories, there could scarcely be procured masters of ability without great increase of expense. I cannot see how any other arrangement could be advanta geously made, except " by the establishment of district schools, with the masters appointed and paid by government, (probably from flues under the act in pert,) and under the direction and superintendence of the pa rochial clergy. The introductiou into such schools of instruction in sea ing and knitting to the girls, would, in my opinion, be of quite as much or more advantage than the mere learning to react." Another suggestion from Mr. Saunder's report was by Messrs. Wood and Walker, of 'Bradford— We are decidedly of opinion that learning, without such sound reli gious application as is provided for by the national system of the esta blished church, will only create more adepts in mischief, and that the popular proposition of a national system of education without religion in any settled form, under the pretext of avoiding bigotry or sectarian ism, is nothing leas in effect than a proposition to spread infidelity and anarchy. The Rev. Gentleman expatiated at some length on these ex cellent suggestions ; after which be read the following extract from a letter addressed to one of the inspectors by the Rev. Archdeacon Lyall— tipewry, Npvelpbr 9,183 S Mr DE.III have greni Pleesure in tePlying to' the questions put to me in your letter respecting the effects produced upon the conduct and morals of the children in the silk factory established in this town. by the regulations under which it is conducted. Those regulations are inserted in the lease of the premises occupied by Messrs. Brown and oy. The premises were built by a certain numbea of shareholders, of whom I am a principal one; and one object was to obtain a power over the children employed, which the law does not give. These regulations are very simple, being, first, that the rector, churchwardens, and three other individuals, should form a committee, and that no children should be received iut.) tao Till without their certificate; end that they should have it 'power SupaplarilY to dinnlo any Child O'r'mioif Orilpford in or about the faetory whose conduct was • disillProved Second, that the committee should be empowered to stop lid. per week from the earn ins of all children under 13 for education ; and that the children should attend school daily for one hour and a half. I have never collected more than Id. a week, and have been satisfied with the attendance— one hour per day. . . I may also observe, as a confirmation of what I have said respecting the children, that the owners of the factory, who, at first thwarted me a good deal, have now become so sensible of the advantages to themselves of the regulations in their lease, that upon building a new factory, about sight miles from here, the year before last, they told one that if I would prevail upon the clergy of the neighbourhood to accept and exer • vise the same authority as I do here, they would convey the ground to them and their successors for 99 years, and take their factory from them under a lease for that time, subject to the same, and even to more strin gent regulatiCMS Itan I bed intended to insist upon. In the joint report of the four inspectors there was this clause— We are of opinion that, in order to secure his fees to the schoolmaster, which he very often loses when he' has to look to the children for them, it should be enacted, that in every case the occupier shall be entitled to deduct from the wages of the child such sum as may be approved of by the inspector, not exceeding 3d. iu each week, to pay for the schooling, and that, upon demand, ho shall pay the sums so deducted to the schoolmaster. It appears to me, therefore, continued Mr. M`Neile, a strong argument in favour of the provisions of this bill, that they are not theoretic experiments originating in the present measure, but progressive iniproveinehts upon the existing system, suggested by practical men conversant with the details of the subject. And I hope' the men as sembled here, and thousands besidei in this great town, will lose no time in appending their names to this petition, and thereby performing their constitutional duty in strengthen ing, as far as they the' hands of her Majesty's govern ment in this great - measure, so that in the committee of the House of - Cdiurrions ion the hili, they may maintain unimpaired the seriptiiral Character, and Church of England managenient 'of the proposed district schodls.' Apposition must of course be counted upon; hilt painful aa'contention is, , and must always be, to the Christian, I hope we shall . ever be found willing to "contend earnestly" rather than compromise t'ic great prinfjples of scriptural education. (Cheers.) And let as, sir, Oways hear praptical remembrance, that in a revOlted worl4 like twig, 13ible itYelf, pontaining the will and law of the great Sovereign, must always be a cause of contention among his rebellious subjects. (Hear.) They can bear any thing with more patience than to have his authoaity forced upon their reluctant minds. The imagina tions, commandments, and traditions of men, in their vari ous and innumerable forms of falsehood, can all amalgamate with convenient pliancy, for the attainment of secular ad vantages or the gratification of envious and jealous antipa thies. A wonderful illustration of this is at hand. At a meeting where Mr. Blackburn was in the chair, and where there were Mr. Bevan, Mr. Martineau, Dr. Youens, Mr. Kelly, and Mr. Thom, a certain Mr. P:*o eppka. (Hear.) And theOvere. united in all that was fundamental and all that was important—that they were new assembled upoh the same platform, within the common bosom of Christianity." They were all agreed in fundamentals! (Hear, bear.) And what were the funda mentals? (Hear, hear.) Is the Trinity fundamental? Mr. Martineau denies it ! (Cheers.) Is the incarnation funda mental? Mr. Martineau again denies it! (Loud cheers.) Is the atonement fundamental ? Again Mr. Martineau denies it ! (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Is infant baptism fundamental? Mr. Giles denies it! (Laughter.) Is infant haptittn tc, cpposed Hu 1,11 Here is r..tlaveill who ademii it! Is the one mediator between pod and matt fundamental? Here is Dr. Youens with a thousand—(hear)=-screening him self behind the anti-Scriptural figment of a difference between the one mediator of redemption, and the many mediators of intercession ! Yet, they are all agreed to fundamentals ! (Cheers.) I will tell you what the real fundamental point is upon which they are agreed—opposition to the Established Church of England ! (Cheers.) I said that all these forms of falsehoood eould amalgamatepith cenve;tienc pliancy , but truth, divine truth, has a ellen - ilea teat tviiith'separatea and precipitates all the - dregs of falSehobd. ' All the Images of the , false gods ofthe Anforites might have been brought into the house of Dagon, and all stood quietly together; but when the Ark of the God of Israel . was introduced, the idol of the Philistines tottered and fell, and was broken. (Cheers.) And so it is now. The philosophy, fa!tcli so called, of the C'ocinian, the Mass book of ,• the Ito= manist, the reviVedieviary ortheTractarhin, the Jewish Talmud the'Makometan 'Koran, the Hindoci Shasteis, the classic Pantheii, all these'may becait by`the - witchery of Liberalism iiito one cauldron .• . lilac}; spirits and white, Red 'Spirits anci trey, Ye that mingle may !" (Tremendous cheers.) But attempt to add the Bible, in the vulgar tongue, to this heterogenous mixture, and you will raise a storm which the witch cannot allay. All these are against the Bible, and the Bible is against all these. The attempt to mix them must produce contention, — Till the burley b ur ley's done, Till the battle's lost and won !" The rev. gentlemen then resumed his seat amidst applause which almost rent the building. Mr. IshiA:r seemdeil die inotion, was auk , after a short address from Mr. Robert .Sidoor, of \Volverhawpton, who stated that the We4leyans were, in general, most friendly to the bill. On the motion of Mr. SHAND, seconded by Mr. J. 13. LLOYD, it was resolved that the petition should be sent for presentation to the House of Commons to the boroioi members. Dr. TATTERSALL then moved, and Mr. WILKINsos, churchwarden (elect), teconded, a vote of thanks to the chairman, which was carried by acclamation, and the pro ceedings terminated about three o'clock. TIIE DOCK COMMITTEE The usual meeting of the Dock Committee took place yes terday. There were present—Messrs. llorsfall, Barclay, Evans, Holmes, Holt, Nicol, Smith, Aikin, Shand, Mid dleton, Bulley, and Bold. The CHAIRMAN called the attention of the members to the result of an experiment in the application of sheet-iron under a wooden floor, with a view to ascertain its effects in preventing or retarding the spread of fire to the timber,—and requested the Secretary to read Mr. W kitty's (Head-consta ble) report on the subject, of which the following arc the principal points : Mr: Wilitty, at the request of Mr. Hartley, superintended the improvement, which was made on Tuesday last. A building had been constructed for the purpose at the " Old Dock Yard." It was 18 feet square, and 10 feet high, covered with a strong wooden floor; and about an inch from the joist was placed very thin and not very good sheet-iron rivetted together, entending the full extent of the ceiling, so as to ex clude the flames from the woodwork. The interior of the building was tilled with 30 empty tar barrels, two large bun dles of oakum, half-a-barrel of pitch, two cart loads of broken timber (very dry), one cart load of chips and shavings, and two gallons of dirty fish oil sprinkled over the other articles. There was a thorough draft through the building, and when the materials were ignited the combustion was most rapid, the whole interior becoming in ten minutes like a furnace. The building being new, it gave off much steam, and cracked in several places. Through the fissures smoke and vapour issued, but no flame until after a lapse of 40 minutes. It then appeared round the interstices of the flooring, &c., and in forty-five minutes the fire was extinguished and the flooring raised. The joints and boards were found to be greatly charred, and on exposure to the air quickly ignited. The sheet•iron was old, and by no means air-tight, as it ought to have been ; but still the experiment was important, as allowing :—First, that a building so constructed cannot be considered perfectly fireproof ; and, secondly, that, though not fireproof, it still offers such impediments to the progress of fire as closely to approximate to it. "To prevent the extension of fire for forty minutes (says Mr. Whitty) amounts almost to a perfect impediment, and points out a very easy way by which exist ing warehouses could, at a trifling expense, be rendered infi nitely more secure against fire that they are at present." He also states that Mr. Hartley may possibly, after this experi ment, be able to suggest further improvements. Mr. Whitty also reports on another experiment, which he witnessed, to test the security of brick arches—models of those intended for the floors of the ❑ew dock warehouses. On the respec tive merits of the two plans with reference to fires, he says— " Supposing a fire in a warehouse protected by sheet iron, I would approach it with apprehension ; but to a fire in a ware house constructed with brick arches, &c., I would go, not only with perfect confidence that it could not extend, but that it would be extinguished in a few minutes." The report of Mr. John Stewart and Mr. Samuel Holme, on the model arches for the warehouse floors, which have been erected at the dock yard, was then read. These gentle men express an opinion that "floors so constructed would be as fireproof as it is possible to have floors in lofty ware houses, and are perfectly sufficient to carry a proper stowage of merchandise. The concrete flooring on the top of the arches appears to be very sound and good, and is a very de sirable floor for a brick arch." They, however, recommend that it should be ascertained whether narrow-wheeled trucks for moving heavy weights would not injure such a floor; and " still retain their opinion that the floor, distinguished as No. 1 in their former report, is, so far as refers to the general strenth and completness of the warehouses, the best ; and that the only advantage which the arched floor possesses is that it is more fireproof." They state in conclusion that they understand that a successful experiment has been made with sheet-iron, and that its use in the mode which they originally recommended would tend in a great degree to limit the spread of tire with a floor constructed according to No. 1, and pro tected by sheet-iron. The CHAIR M AN stated that it was desirable that members of the committee who had not seen the model.brick arches should inspect them. Mr. HARTLEY said they could be seen any day between 10 and 1 o'clock. Several members expressed their intention to visit the dock-card this day for that purpose. A Report from the Marine Surveyor was then read, sug gesting an application to the Trinity Board for the laying down an additional buoy and a beacon for the better guid ance and protection of vessels in the south channel into the harbour—to be placed at points where chiefly for want of them no fewer than 20 vessels have been lost within the last seven years. This was agreed to. The CHAIRMAN stated that the owners of two vessels had expressed a wish to have the use of the transit sheds—west side of the Prince's Dock. This was concurred in, and orders were given to prepare them with partitions of trellis-work, requisite to separate the weighed from the unweighed goods. Matters of finance were then entered upon, and the re porters withdrew. THEATRE-ROYAL LAST NIGHT OF THE OPERA OF " MAR/NETTE." We perceive that this evening the composer and author of the new opera of Marinette take their benefit. As this will be the only opportunity our readers will have of witnessing this production of their townsmen, we hope it will not have to be said that the cold shoulder has been shown to those who have exhibited a laudable pride in wishing the result of their labours to be seen for the first time in their " ain touu." Very great promises of support have been held out, which will not, it is hoped, be _ " kept to the ear, But broken to the hope." The opinions of our contemporaries have been given, in spite of some extra-critical flourishes, in its favour; and it a bumper house this evening rewards those concerned, any per sons in doubt on the subject as to its merits or demerits will have the " living fact before them" ; and the public voice will show whether, in better times, the authors Rill be jus 7 tified in trying once more to afford amusement to the public. The composer and poet's place is recognised in all festive cireles;—we own their influence in the quiet evenings at home—in the brilliant concert hall—at the social board—in all cheerful societies—in hut, in hall—in drawing-room or in humble cottage-parlour ;—the sailor sings at the capstan, and the lover seeks to win his mistress by his serenades ; the soldier is inspired with " deeds of arms " by ;the *soul rousing march, while the husbandman indulges in " native strains that melt us as we sing them" ;—the schoolboy " whistles to keep his courage up" ;—the maiden warbles at her wheel, or while plying the busy needle ;--the rleeress— nay, all classes, to the Sovereign herself—own the power and sway of linusje and song : and surely the rich rewards which every foreigner in this country can command ought not to be withheld from those who are " native here." We add the following ballad as a specimen of the author's style of versification. It is sung by Mr. Shrivall with taste, feeling, and pathos : BALLAD. (From the new Opera of " Marinette.") When the clouds of misfortune shall shadow us per, And life's 6Olden sunshine shall cheer 'us 'no more ; When the gloom of despair seems our fate to invest, And sorrow impending brings friends to the test : Then we find that dear woman still joy will confer, She'll smilingly meet us, no change is in her. May her gentle dominion o'er man never cease, And may leaven watch over her pathway of peace! Would we see lovely woman in colours of truth, 'Tis not where she mingles, in pride of her youth, Where garlands of flow rs with lamps we festoon, When night time is made like the brightness of noon! Not amid mirth and music she'll seem the most fair, But where kindness is needed, go seek for her there. Oh, may her dominion o'er man never cease, And may Heaven watch over her pathway of peace! CHESTER. RACES.-TUESDAY. PRODUCE SWEEPSAKES, of 50 sous each, h ft, for three year olds, colts Bst 41b, fillies Sst. Two miles. 8 subs. Mr Mostyn's ch c General Pollock, by Velocipede Sir R Bulkely's b c by Jereed—Jemima . 2 Lord Westminster's ch fby Pantaloon . TUE TRADESMEN'S PLATE, of 200 sovs in specie, added to a Handicap Sweepstakes of 25 sovs each. 68 subs. Mr Wormald's ch h Millipede, 5 yrs, 7st 31b. Lord Eglinton's br h JaMie Forest, 6 yrs, 7st 21b......... 2 Sir C Monk's b c Galanthus, yrs, 7st 7lb ... .... 3 Sixteen others started,'but were not placed; fourteen paid the large, and thirty-five the small forfeit. A. SWEEPSTAKE, of 5 sous each, with' 50 added. Two mile heats. 7 subs. Mr J Scott's cis c Prizefighter, by Gladiator, 3 yrs.... 1 1 Mr 1' Dawson's br c A Robber, 3 yrs . . 0 2 Mr Fowler's h g The Duke, 4 yrs Thres others started, hut *ere not plaCed WEDN'EBPAY.—TpE D'EFSTA:vp BTAigy,p, I.Cfoir§ each, . . With 50 added. 4 Subs. Mr Cook's ch c What, by 4ereed, 3 yrs walked over A SWEEYSTAKEs, of 25 soya each, for two year olds, 11 subs, Marquis of Westminster's b f Sister to Auckland 1 Mr Denham's b f Fair Charlotte Mr Flintoff's ch f by Dr Faustus . Seven others started, but were not placed. THE DEE STAKES, of 50 sous each, h ft, with . 2oo soya added, for three year olds. Grosvenor Course. 16 subs. Mr Mosryn's ch c General Pollock .. Mr F R Price's ch c Colin Clink Sir Abstrupus, Decoy f, and Hooton not placed. SIXTY GUINEAS, the gift of the Members for the City Heats, once round and a distance. Mr Flintoff's br f The Rhine, 3 yrs ). Copl;p' ; s 911 c.Noati.3. yrfi ' • • • ;1 Vont - others also started TmnispAy.—Hrtit MAJESTY'S PLA.TE, of 100 guineas. Thrice round, rather more than three miles. Mr D Cooke's ch c What, 3 yrs Marquis of Westminster's b g Martyr, 4 yrs MARQUIS OF WESTMINSTER'S PLATE, Of 100 sous in specie, added to a Handicap Sweepstakes of 20 soya each, h ft. 17 subs. Sir C Monk's b c Galanthus, 4 yrs, Sst Mr F It Price's br f Marion, 4 yrs, 7st 711?. , 2 METROPOLITAN PROTESTANT ASSOCIATION.—Dr. Croly will preach the anniversary sermon of this society, on the 10th of May, in the Episcopal Chapel, Gray's lnu-road, Loudon. • A new steam-carriage has been invented by a young man at Reading, which is said to have overcome the obstacle which hitherto prevented these machines from being used on the roads. The 47ez . ,gc. the speed fourteen mlles par hour. It goes on three wheels, something like a Bath chair. ' AN EXCISEMAN FRIGIITENED•--A few days ago, the in mates Of •one of the inns iii the village of Beauty were sud denly alarmed by a❑ unaccountable noise, which took place in one of the apartments of the house in which an excise man had been laid up, and wag under medical treatment, for a fe7 da73. Vt 7411 aii conve'nient ipeed, 'the host of the house, &„c:,'bett)6l( themselves to the scene of 'actiOn, where; to their'astoniihment; they saw the irivalid in great trepi dation; paesenting a pair of pistols, minus shot, at a terri ble looking object which stood between hisbed and the fire side, and which to him appeared supernatural. "Upon fur ther investigation into the cause of such an unusual ecene, it the . cognomen vpolish peighbc u 0 - .04 turned out to stepped be that u slipped l: liiitai,ar;uor stairs, " 1h ; :r4i limbs vbf;ll,na4;tabhwli ill the e had 'iluidtlY door of she na w o a r s tal ; was, the room open , comfort able fire which she noticed in it. This unha ppy nine or ten aears ago, a blooming and handsome maid ; but having trespassed a little on the excise laws, incar cerated in Inverness gaol, since which time reason has left her empire, never to return.—Ross-shire Advertiser. President Joe Smith, of Nauvoo city, m arr i es the girls and fellows—preaches—sells tape and molasses candy—write* verses for the " Times and Seasons, and mak es L aws for the Mormons.—Boston 4vening ADJOURNED MEETING OF TWE TOWN CONNCIL The council held an adjourned, and also (for certain mat ters) a special meeting, within the Town-hall, on Wednesday last, at eleven o'clock ; the Moron. presiding. CONGRATULATORY ADDRESS TO THE QUEEN AND PRINCE ALBVILT, Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE hoped he might be allowed to go out of the order appointed for the business of the day, for the purpose of moving that a dutiful and loyal address be pre sented to her most gracious Majesty the Queen, on the oc casion of the birth of a Pri.ucess of the House of Brunswick. lie was sure they must all rejoice at that most auspicious event ; and pray that those virtues which graced and adorned her Majesty, and endeared her to the country, would be cha racteristic of the life of the illustrious Princess just born. (Hear, hear.) Under the influence of these feelings, he begged to propose that a committee be appointed to prepare an address to her Majesty, and that the same be transmitted for presentation to the Secretary of State for the Home Department, Sir James Graham. Sir Tr►OMAS BRANCKER seconded the motion, and it was agreed to unanimously; after which, an address having been prepared by the committee, was agreed to by the council. ADDRESS OF CONDOLENCE. Mr. Alderman TURNER asked whether it was not cus tomary to present an address, also, of condolence upon the death of an uncle of the reigning sovereign? If it were cus tomary, he thought that such a mark of respect was especially called for on t he occasion of the death of the Duke of Sussex, considering the peculiar situation in which his royal highness had stood towards her Majesty. It was the Duke of Sussex who had stood in loco parentis, almost, towards her from the cradle to the throne; it was the Duke of Sussex who first presented her to the assembled nobles of the land in the Council Chamber ; it was the Duke of Sussex who presented her hand in marriage to the gallant and illustrious Prince now her husband, and who had proved himself so worthy of his high position. (Hear, hear.) Under these circum sumstances he (Mr. Alderman Turner) moved that an ad dress of condolence be also presented to her Majesty on the death of her illustrious uncle. _ _ Mr. Alderman EARLE was very glad that his. friend (M r . Alderman Turner) had brought it forward, and in the ge n tl e . manly manner which always characterized him. He (Mr. Earle) thought it very extraordinary that an address of con gratulation should first have been proposed, although he did not then venture to make any observations upon the subject; but, he continued, I am glad it has come from a good con servative and not from a radical like myself (laughter and cries of order)—because it would have been supposed I had done so in consequence of the politics of the Duke of Sussex. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE (and others).—No, no. Mr. Alderman EARLE.--I beg your pardon: it was most marked. The MAYOR said he really must beg Mr. Earle not to im pute motives to any one.—(flear, hear.) They really must give up the practise of looking at individuals, and take the matters which were before them ; they must not take the con duct of individuals for the subject of discussion. He (the Mayor) hoped they were all assembled in order to do what was right, not to talk about the political ideas of any particu lar members of the council. Let them look only at the mat ters which came properly before them. Mr. Alderman EARLS begged to offer his apologies for any omission, but he thought he had done so. The M YOB. was sure that the council would never discharge its duty in the way it ought to be discharged, until the mem bers looked only at the matters legitimately before them, and forgot all political animosity. (Hear, hear.) Mr. SAMUEL HOLM E, cordially agreeing with every senti ment expressed by Mr. Alderman Turner respecting the Duke of Sussex, and also with the Mayor, that one word of politics should never be permitted to darken that room, and feeling the opinion expressed by Mr. Earle to be an unjust one, had great pleasure in seconding the address. (Hear.) Mr. HODGSON thought the council were now rather called upon to express a decided feeling in favour of the Duke of Sussex. In the first instance, it really had not occurred to any gentleman, at the moment, to propose a vote of condo lence; if it had, he (Mr. Hodgson) should have been glad to have moved it himself. He should say, De mortuis nil nisi bonum. . _ (Hear, hear.) Whatever his politics might be, the amiable life of the Duke of Sussex claimed honour and respect ; and he (Mr. Hodgson) thought it was ill-judged and ill-timed to attempt to separate the omission into a party question until it had been ascertained whether there was an intention, or anything to afford them for believing there was such an in tention, of withholding the expression of condolence. (Hear, hear.) This was a matter of family affliction, and not of any political question whatever. (Hear.) And though he did not say they should not have political questions agitated there—probably there would be some that day—for they could not help themselves, yet he did say that the occa s i on to manifest it, to-day, had been unhappily chosen at the commencement of the council. He (Mr. Hodgson) cordially concurred in what had fallen from Mr. Turner with regard to the address of condolence, which, he supposed, was the usual course pursued when any of the royal family died. Mr. G. IL LAWRENcg said he had not at all forgotten this subject ; he was anxious to pay proper respect to her Ma jesty ; but he had been in some degree guided by precedent, for he remembered that when the Duke of Gloucester died, no notice of the event was taken by the council. Mr. BIRKETT supported the address, observing that for a considerable period the late royal Duke had devoted a part of his income to charitable purposes. The address was afterwards read and adopted. At the request of the NIATOR it was then agreed that the address of condolence should stand first on the proceedings, and that of congratulation second. rßivii ? E.ca q Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE, after reading and pointing out some inaccuracies in a statement which had appeared in a leading article in the 4/biort concerning him, said he wished to explain what had fallen from him at the last council. The MAYOR said Mr. Lawrence had used the word " jus tification " at the last meeting, or he would have been al lowed to explain. Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE thought he had then said he wished to explain. With reference to the officers, he was willing to admit that Dutton had an excellent character on the books of the committee; the reason for his (Mr. Law rence's) observation was, that he had made a statement be fore the committee, which he a few minutes afterwards de nied having made. After a few observations from Mr. BIRKETT and Mr. THORNHILL, the subject dropped. OF THE HOUSES IN HANOVER-STREET. Mr. EARLE brought forward the following motion, of which he had given notice :—" That it is not expedient to dispose of the houses in Hanover-street, which were with drawn from the public sale of the 15th instant, as the pos session of them by the Corporation appears to afford a fa vourable opportunity for abating certain nuisances in that part of the town, for the general remedy of which clauses have been introduced into two acts of ariiument recently obtained." Mr. Earle entered into a very minute statement of the several nuisances. cmAr i llained of. The motion war supported by Mr. Bramley Moore. Mr. auel Holme, and Mr. Platt, and opposed by Mr. Hodg son, Mr. G. H. Lawrence, Sir T. Brancker, and others. Mr. Earle ultimately withdrew the motion. LOAN OF PICTURES TO THE COLLEGIATE INSTITUTION Mr. Bustium, moved pursuant to notice, " For the loan of the pictures in the Town-hall to the Directors of the Ccl, legiate Institution during the period of the approaching mid summer vacation, with a view to their forming part of a poly technic exhibition." The Directors of the Collegiate In stitution were desirous to hays the loan of these pictures as a sort of nucleus of their int en d e d e xhibition at midsummer. The pieltircs in the cOuncil chamber were not asked for : it was only those iu the drawing room, and, also Hilto n s picture of the Crucifixion, It had been suggested that the splendid statue of Canning should be included in the motion, but he had not done so because the Corporation had no con trout whatever over it, not being their property, it h av i ng been placed in the Town -hall by the subscribers. There was a precedent for the motion when the use of the pictures was granted to the Directors of the Mechanics' Institution, and he did not anticipate any objection to the present ap plication. Mr. ASPINALL seconded the motion, adding that the Di rectors of the Collegiate Institution would be answerable for any expense and damage. Mr. Alderman EvANs.—What are the pictures you want? Mr. BUSIIELL,—The pictures of the Crucifixion, and those by Shee, Lawrence, and others, of the 'r. At.piltisllN EVAN'S.-.Have you not included Sir Thomas ? 13,tiYarFatiiily. M Mr. S. HOLME.—No ' • we have the original. (Laughter.) It was then agreed that the pictures should be lent upon the usual terms. THE FIRE RILL. The Council then resolved itself into a committee for the consideration of the Fire 13111. The DEPUTY Town -CLERK read the proceedings of the committee since the adjournment. At tE meetjng held on the 24th inst. at which Mr. Rowlands, architect, was present on behalf of the parties who deemed' their interest affected by the bill, it was resolved that the following modifications in the bill be proposed to the conned : No cellar used for the deposit of goods shall make the building above liable to the regulations if the cellar be made to comply with the regulations affecting it, and be arched with brick, or the ceiling lined with sheet iron, zinc ; or other approved material. [This modification would exempt chapels over cellars used for goods.] The dOot-frames or jambs, door-sills and heads, window frames apd pent•houses, and also catheads (except the sheaves, which must be of hardwood), may be of wrought or cast iron, at the option of the party ; or, as to existing ware houses, may, with the exception of the pent-houses and cat heads, at the party's option, be lined with sheet iron, zinc, or other approved material. But doors and window-shutters must be of wrought iron, or, in existing warehouses, be, at the option of the party, lined as above mentioned. Teagle blocks, not being used in warehouses, to be struck out of the bill. The doors and door-frames or jambs, door-sills and heads, and window-shutters and frames of a room in a warehouse, not used as a warehouse-room or es a iorwatcling" shall be exempt from tlic.• rci ; ,ulations ;'`provided that in new warehouse-a pp roOM'itintediatety Under any room used as u Warebonse•roorri shall'be exempted, unless the same shall be arched, or the ceiling arched with sheet iron, &c. [This would exempt offices, counting-houses, sale-rooms, news-rooms, &c.] Palm oil to be excepted from the list of dangerous goods. The dangerous goods specitied in the list to be allowed to be disposed of in existing warehouses, having doors, &c., lined with sheet iron. The boiling of oil, blubber, or t;r, and the manufacturing of vegetable or mineral naptba, 'or tarnish, to be inserted iu the list of thingercius' trades, with the exception, as to any building detached by 75 feet from any other building. At a'meeting on the 25th instant, it was further resolved that the following exemptions be proposed to the council : Of buildings and rooms in which retail trades only shall be carried on, such trades not being in the list of dr,nerous trades ; of warehouses or rooms attached to or funning part of buildings entirely in the ssux rind' used only for retail trades not in the list of dangerous trades for the purposed ofwbibli retail trades only, goods shall be deposited in such' warelionses• or Warehouse=rooms ; of buildings de tached from' any' other buildings not in the same occupation, and in which manufactories only shall be carried on, such manufactories not being in the list of dangerous ; of warehouses or rooms attached to or t'2.rrn4..• part of build ings entirely in the same, occivation; and - detached from buildings in ::n- other odebPat.ion, and' which shall be used only for . rnannfActories not in' the list of dangerous trades, by Mr. i\T“;o:t., moved for thiptirpoSes'ef which manufactories only, goods shall be deposited in such warehouie or rooms, it wa bis intention conainittei. Mr. PARKER opposed the bill: the Measure the S confirmation i B o LI B o R f A t Y h c e K p E r ogc'eseedci;,' seconded e e d f the was unjnst to the ratepayetS,.hean,seit Was a mere question between the insbrerS and the rn s sbyed. to oppose the additional hal - flied/4 the 1 30 4nd, proposed to be added to the rire;police rate. Some allusion having been made to the Water Bill, TtloNxii,t , 'said Mr. AsrxNALL said that a constant and abundant supply of water was the great desideratutn. Thi s h a d b een experi enced in numerous cases in t l stown. At the tire on Satur day night last, at Messrs. Robinson and Co.'s premises, it fortunately happened that ther e was a ta n k o f water on th e o premises, or the whole stack t 711rehouse wouldhave been destroyed. With prootPt , :uPPI , eB Of Water, 'none of the recent great fires in this OWLI would have attained any mag nitude. 11 , 1 r Time answered somalength the arguments nr.ed against e bill. Mr. LLOYD moved, as an amendment, that considering the many important interests embodied in the bill, and the great change which its provisions would make in a great mass of property in the town, and also considering the short time the bill had been before the inhabitants, it should he withdrawn for the present session, but that the council was of opinion that at present the town is not sufficiently supplied with water. Mr. KILSHAW seconded the amendment. Mr. BRAMLEY MOORE opposed the bill as distressing and arbitrary, and urged the necessity of delay, in order that the town might have an opportunity of judging of It. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE expressed similar opinions, but was afraid the Paving-board would also withdraw their bill. Mr. J. HoLmEs said there was no such intention. The Water Bill would proceed under any circumstances. Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE proceeded to say that the fault was in the bad regulations of the present warehouses, arid the re medy would be in building warehouses round the docks, which were the proper places for them, and the only places of safety. Mr. EARLE said the great requirement was water. The bill imposed great hardships and offered no commensurate good. The regulations were not the cause of the evil, for all the great fires had originated not in the warehouses but in the buildings adjoining. A conversation ensued on the subject of the effect of giving up the Fire Bill for the present. It was again stated that the Water Bill would be persevered in, and that it had been read a second time and would go into committee on the 11th May. It was intended to use fresh water, though power would be given to use any water, salt or fresh. The Town-clerk ex plained, that if the Fire Bill were postponed, it would be necessary for the council to give their assent to the water clauses. But if the bill provided that the council should pay £5OO a-year for the water, it was necessary to have a pro vision to enable them to lay a rate of a halfpenny in the pound to meet that payment. It was stated by several members of the Watch Committee, that the present rate of a halfpenny in the pound would be more than sufficient, as they bad a surplus sf £2500 in hand over their expenditure. Mr. Lloyd's amendment was pet, when there appeared— For the amendment Against it Majority The following is the division : For the amendment.--Councillors : Isaac Holmes, Thorn hill, Copeland, Thompson, North, H. Holmes, Hornby, J. Holmes, Aspinall, J. Lawrence, Wood, Procter, Lloyd, Kil ahaw, Parker, Brassey, Plumpton, Lace, Platt, Sheppard, Harbord ; Aldermen: Houghton, Earle, Freme, Crook, Bramley-Moore, E►ans.-27. Against it.—Councillors : Shand, Hodgson, Aikin, S. Holtne, Birkett, G. H. Lawrence, Trotman, Smith ; Alder men : Bulley, Brancker, Turner, Holt, Nicol, Molyneux, Moon, and the Mayor.-16. The council proceeded to the consideration of the clauses of the Water Bill, and Mr. BIRKETT, seconded by Mr. EARLE, moved that the clauses be adopted.—Carried. BREWERS AND SPIRIT DEALERS ON THE 'WATCH COMMITTEE Mr. EARLE was about to bring forward his motion on this subject, when, being past three o'clock, Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE suggested that it should be post poned, urging that at that late hour it would be impossible to do justice to the subject. Mr. Alderman EAGLE said be had been called on by the Mayor, and be regarded this interruption as an unworthy attempt to stifle what he (Mr. Earle) was determined should go abroad. . _ - Mr. G. H. LAwimicx.—Then you should have a special council for the purpose. Mr. Alderman EARLE.—I disapprove highly of what the Chairman of the Finance Committee says : the Chairman of the Finance Committee is " I, I, I," upon every occasion ; and it is really setting every body else in this council practi cally at nought. I must protest against this sort of thing— Mr. G. H. LAWRENCE.--I do not know that I have said " I, I, I ;" but go on, if you like. Mr. Alderman EARLE then said, it was upon public grounds alone that he had put this motion upon the paper, for he had had no personal feeling whatever upon the subject. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Hodgson might sneer, but he (Mr. Earle) would give the council his honour that it was so. (Hear.) The MAYOR thought that Mr. Alderman Earle's assurance should be received. Mr. Alderman EARLE.—And very likely, with the excep on of Mr. Hodgson, it would be. Mr. HonhsoN._--We shall hear that by and bye. _ Mr. Alderman EARLS.--I have no wish to hear any thing from you. (Order, order.) He must now request the Deputy Town, clerk to read certain acts of parliament of which he had a list. The DEPUTY TOWN-CLERIC then read them. Mr. Alderman EARL]; then said he had desired these acts of Parliament to be read, in order to chew, as they had all seen the notice he had put on the paper, how jealous the le gislature was of persons acting as justices in matters where their private interests were likely to interfere with their pub lic duty. It was quite impossible that any man could stand altogether independent of private feeling ; he accused no man with doing wrong, but he contended they ought not to be placed in such a position. He dared say that be (Mr. Earle) should act as any other gentleman would under similar cir cumstances ; and therefore he thought it an act of propriety on the part of the Council not to place gentlemen so situated upon the Watch Committee, and of delicacy on their part not to seek for those situations. At the last Connell he made some remarks about Mr. James Lawrence, which, he dared say, were incorrect, and that be had no tenants in public houses; but it was very well known to the magistrates that gentlemen in that business (and he wished he was doing such a good business himself,) were the owners of public-houses. At least they were in the habit of giving notice that they did not object to the transfer of licenses. Mr. James Lawrence's name was often brought forward in this way, and other gen tlemen on the committee came before the magistrates very often, in like manner, for allowing a man to remove his li cense from one house to another ; and unless they were the owners and proprietors of the houses the magistrates could not receive it. That, then, :hewed the proprietorship. It was very clear, therefore, that the police, seeing there were so many of these gentlemen upon the watch committee, and their masters, would be biassed thereby ; of course, there fore if publicans were brought up to be fined, who were their tenants, it must interfere with the proper discharge of their duties, although they, no doubt had every disposition to do so. It was not likely,—we could nut expect it, that the cir cumstances would have no influence upon them. Mr. PAattnt hoped the worthy alderman would confine himself to facts, not to suppositions. The MAYOR called Mr.. Parker to order, observing that he would stop Mr. Earle if he went wrong. Mr. Alderman EAuLE said he was only arguing according to the law of the country. There was surely no suppositions there. He did not know what Mr. Parker meant. The Mayon said that Mr. Parker would have an oppor tunity, if he chose, of expressing his sentiments. Mr. Alderman EARLE, in conclusion, said that with these observations be should move the following resolutions : " That in the opinion of this Council, it is their imperative duty to do all in their power to enforce the salutary law pro hibiting the sale of ale or spirits on Sundays before the hour of one in the afternoon ; and that, in accordance with the spirit of sec. 6, 9th Gee. IV, cap. 61, quoted below, no brewer, spirit dealer, or other person selling wine, beer, or spirits to publicans, should sit on the Watch Committee when any case affCcting publicans and beer-sellers, or informations against them, or the conduct or employment of any officer on any case respecting a publican or beer-seller, shall be un der discussion." _ " That no Justice, who shall be a common brewer, distiller, maker of malt for sale, or retailer of malt or of any exciseable liquor, or who shall be concerned in partnership with any common brewer, distiller, maker of malt for sale, or retailer of malt, or any exciseable liquor, shall act in or be present at any general annual licensing meeting, or at any special session for granting or transferring licenses under this act, or shall take part in the discussion or adjudication of the Justices upon any application for a license, or upon any appeal there from ; and no Justice shall act upon any of the aforesaid oc casions in the case of any house licensed or about to be licensed under this act, of which such Justice shall be owner, or for the owner of which he shall be manager or agent, or of any house being in whole or in part the property of any common brewer, distiller, maker of malt for sale, or retailer of malt or of any excisable liquor, to whom such Justice shall be, either by blood or by marriage, the father, son, or brother, or of whom such Justice shall be the partner in any other trade or calling; and that every Justice who, being hereby disqualified, shall knowingly or wilfully so offend, shall, for every such offence, forfeit and pay the sum of one hundred pounds." Mr. Alderman FssEME begged to second the motion : in doing so he would observe that this was one of those pain ful duties which a man was sometimea called upon to per form ; and it was the more painful, tp him because it would have something like the appearance of personality. He as sured the conneil, however, that he did not second this mo tion upon personal grounds, or from any objection to any individual member of the Watch Committee, but because the system was founded upon an unsound principle. He did not second the motion because the gentlemen affected by it were opposed to him in politics, but because this was no new thing with him, for it was a question he had mentioned years ago when the party to which he was attached were in the majority. lie then proposed, at a private meeting, exactly the same thing, and it was unanimously carried. There were then only a section of gentlemen in that parti cular trade in the council, and he thought then, and it had always struck hint, as being a dangerous principle in as much as it brought men too much iu eontactwith their own interests. 'rite Watch Committee was not to judge between the publicans and the police only, but it was the judge to see that the in terests of the public were duly regarded, and the law should be administered by them, not only with reference to the pub licans, but with reference to the public also. Now, be bad always thought that there was too much sympathy in that particular committee, between the brewer and his customer, that it was putting them in an unpleasant position, or, at all events, laying them open to suspicion. This was not a ques tion of party politics • but it was a question which the real interests of the public were eoncer,tised: The Watch Com mittee should nerfect confidence of the public, and be desiitiqaf anyihing like suspicion, which was certainly unpleasant to them, but arose from the nature of their trade, and from their strong connection, nay, their identity almost, with their customers. But the great feeling which he (Mr. Alderman Freme) had, was this—he did not think it fair that those publicans who were not the customers of brewers upon the committee should be put upon a worse, footing than others who were : these latter might ;: t ax;'"lM, I have a friend at court who will prote# melinm the consequences of every thing, which amnliar roan can not do:" A little thing in this wtv,- once decurYed to himself. A gentleman said to him he *as niuch annoyed to find, on speaking to the police , man to interfere; he said, " I dare not speak to the publi can, because he belongs to so-and. so, who is on the Wadi Committee." (Great cries of " Name, name."). Mr. JAMES LAWRENCE called upon Air. Freme to name. Mr. Freme was a member of i i he'cpinthittee when it had something to do with iziortnatioas';, and he called upon him to name thz Whi . eh this matter Occurred. It was most un,iust that statements Of this kind should be made without the' shadOW of proof: (Hear, hear.) The NI AYoR said it was competent for Mr. Frewto make statements, and he (the Mayor) did not q,; . .,e that, in this instance, it was necessary for him, glve names; inasmuch as he was merely advocetizg a Oinciple; and he had given an assurance that, hc.. did: not mean'anyrneinber of the present committer:. Mr. Conrcw.-1. think, as Mr. Freme made a direct charge, he bught to give the names. (Hew, hear, and " order.") . Mr. Alderman FREME.—But J 40, act know who the gen tleman vas. (Hear, hear.) The MAypn...-4Ae merely stated, that such things had pc, curred, witilotit giving 'names. PARicb..--Mr. Mayor, I now think yq:.; Lava allowed supii6SitiOus . , instead of facts. (Q:rdcz.) The MAVOR.—Namea have not been mentioned. _ Mr. Alderman VltExiit, in'continuation, said he had stated he did kit knoW within his own knowledge that the fact had occurred, and that a gentleman had only told him so. He wished, however, clearly to prove that this motion was not seconded because the gentlemen concerned differed from him in politics, but upon the ground that . they were liable to great suspicion in the discharse pf t4etr' duties. When he was upon the Watch Committee, the gentlemen in the trades referred to, an far . as his awn knowledge went, never did any thing unfair or improper ; be hid never seen anything of that sort in them , not the least; but as a general pr in plp le he did. think, especially as there were other committees to which they were eligible, it was unwise to put them upon this par ticular one—namely, the Watch committee, Mr. PARKER wished to give both the worthy aldermen whO'broiight 'figivi this motion every c redit for their dis interestedness. r. Alderman Freme.had said that the N.VoAcli comusitto must bocomo populansod—made popular with the public ; but how, in point of fact, did the Watch I Committee stand with the public ? By whom had the mem bers been sent into the council? Let Mr. Frecne, if he could, point to any one of those affected by this motion who had not gone into it with the full confidence of a constituency. (Hear, hear.) None of them were aldermen who brought forward charges which were mere assertions instead of facts, and who said they might or might not be true, but they had heard them, and, though they did not believe them, thought it becoming to publicly mention them. (Hear, bear.) Thu fact was, these charges had been " trumped up ;" and, coming as they did from two magistrates, they made their appearance with very little grace. Said the worthy aldermen, " the Watch Committee we wish to stand upon good grounds with the public." Why, there was not a single member of it now concerned who would not, if it were necessary, wil lingly appear before his constituents to-morrow ; be would himself go to his constituents, and. if they brought one single charge against him, he would resign not only his seat in the Watch Committee but in the council and pay the fine, be cause the allegation of any member being unfit to sit on the Watch Committee what (lid it imply but that he was also un worthy to hold a seat in that council. (Cheers.) Let the worthy aldermen go to his (Mr. Parker's) constituents, call a meeting of them, and he would resign it the majority said so ; but there were those who had not a constituency to appeal to, who bad been rejected by the inhabitants, and who had been returned into that council, by the then dominant party, contrary to the wishes of the people. He was not quite certain whether the alderman for Exchange Ward (Mr Earle) was not himself ha that position; at least, report said he was— The MAYOR.—I think you are getting a little out now; I do not see what the council have to do with that. You are getting out of the line. Mr. PARKER.—Very well. He then alluded, first of all, to the names of the seven gentlemen, beginning with Mr. Preston, affected by this proceeding. Every one of them had been personally attacked by the motion, and being himself one of them, he claimed the privilege of defending himself against the attack made upon him personally. The worthy Alderman for Exchange 'Ward had said, and it was rather a bold assertion to make, that it was impossible for any of them to act conscientiously The MAYou.—l did not understand Mr. Earle to say so. Mr. Alderman EARLS.—I did not intend to say so. Mr. PARRKR.-4 took it down so. Mr. Alderman EARLE.--You took it down, and the Mayor is taking you up. (Laughter.) Mr, PARKER—That is the impression upon my mind. The MAYOR—Perhaps Mr. Earle will mention what he did say. Mr. Alderman EARLE had meant to say that the legisla tion had provided against this sort of thing, because their own interest might interfere with their conduct, and because a man could not always divest himself of the feelings of pri vate interest. The man did not fancy he was doing wrong, but look at the difficulty he was placed in when his private interest was concerned ; it was on account of this very diffi culty that the legislature had prevented anything of the kind occurring. The 111AvoR.—You make no charge of not acting con scientiously ? Mr. Alderman EARLS.—Not at all. 1 The Maron.—Then it is quite satisfactory. Mr. PARKER resumed. The clauses which the Deputy Town-clerk had read referred only to justices of the peace; and they could not by any ingenuity be made to apply to members of the Watch Committee. Did he (Mr. Parker) hold the same sentiments, he would not call them liberal though proceeding from liberals, for they were illiberal. As to the particular trade followed by members of the council being an objection to their forming a committee, he might assert that the five gentlemen forming the Fire Committee had no business to be there because they were interested in pro.. perty. To carry out his own doctrine, Mr. Earle must, of course, assume that their private interest could sway their public opinion. Ile (Mr. Parker) should be very sorry to say anything like that ; he should be sorry to suppose there was any gentleman in the council who would act from any other motives than those suggested by conscience and prin ciple. Those were the motives upon which he (Mr. Parker) had always acted, and on which he always would act ; but he hoped that out of this charge (for he could call it no less,) something definite would be attempted, some dereliction of duty without throwing a shield over it. (Hear.) The fact, however was, that the Watch Committee had no more to do with the charges preferred against publicans than the coun cil, for they never came before the committee in any shape. Besides, the offences referred to in the clauses just read, re ferred to cases before justices where the parties were heard upon oath. The Watch Committee had nothing to do with oaths ; and he appealed to Mr. Hornby to say whether any such cases had come before the committee. The only case which had been before them, as far as lie knew, was when Mrs. Dixon made a charge against the officers Cunningham and Dutton, and that would not have gone before the magistrates if it had not been for the vice-chairman. Mr. Whitty said, the characters of the three men were affected by it, and it had better not go before the magistrate, but the deputy chairman said, that as the character of the force was concerned, it should go before Mr. Rushton. It did go before the stipen diary magistrate, not that Mrs. Dixon was thought of as a publican, but because the committee were looking at the character of their men. If Mr. Hornby, a member of the committee, had brought forward this motion, or Mr. Hodg son, (the public would see that the committee was not alto gether a " refuge for the destitute," and that there were some respectable men upon it,) there might have been supposed to be some grounds for complaint; but what was the present motion founded upon ? Absolutely nothing. If there were any charge which could be brought either against the com mittee or against himself (Mr. Parker), he shottli be happy to meet it ; but he did think, that without some such inten tion existing, there had been a want of that courtesy and respect which was due from one member to another. He was not accusing the mover of the resolution of any thing else ; no doubt he had acted upon what he considered right principles, and be (Mr. Parker) gave him credit for that; but at the same time, where individuals were attacked with out there being the slightest grounds for a railing accusation against them, there was not only a want of courtesy, but a want of good breeding and good manners. (Hear, hear.) Mr. AsPINALL was very sorry to have to rise on this occa sion ; but he really thought that when six or seven gentlemen upon one committee were assailed---- The MAYort suggested to Mr. Parker that he should with draw his charge of " a want of good breeding and good manners." Mr. Alderman EARLE.—Never mind it, Mr. Mayor; we will take our pattern from him hereafter. Mr. PAILICER said that if, in the excitement of debate on this subject, he had said anything which was considered of fensive, he would willingly withdraw it. Mr. ASPINALL was very sorry to take up the time of the council on this matter, as be was neither a member of the Watch Committee nor a justice of the peace; but he did not like Mr. Earle, who had been a member of the Watch Com mittee for five years, and sat with some of the gentlemen whose conduct be impugned nearly the whole of that time, (for he held the cards in his hands of the members during that period,) bringing the subject forward now for the first time, when he had never thought of mentioning it before. (Hear, hear.) And it was the more remarkable because Mr. Earle had himself been a member of the Watch Committee when Sir Joshua Walmsley was chairman. (Hear.) He (Mr. Aspinall) mentioned the name of Sir Joshua Walmsley because that gentleman was a justice of the peace, and be cause justices of the peace were particularly and exclusively referred to in the clauses of the several acts of parliament which had been read by the Deputy Town-clerk. Mr. Enoch Harvey, for whom he (Mr. Aspinall) had always entertained the highest respect, although a brewer, was also upon the committee at that time, and he was never objected to— Mr. Alderman FREms.—Yes, yes. (Counter cries of " No, no.") Mr. ASPINALL.—Mr. Harvey was never once objected to in the council, whatever might have been said at the Angel. (Hear, hear.) The MAYoR.--You must not refer to what has been done at the Angel, Mr. Aspinall. That is not the question. (Hear, bear.) _ _ Mr.' Aspi;:ALL.—l only referred to the Angel, because Mr. Freme was permitted to refer to it. (Hear, hear, and cries 0f,." Order.") _ _ _ The MAYOS.—I did not hear Mr. Freme say anything about it. Mr. ASPINALL.—I only repeat Mr. Freme's own words; and will sit down, Mr. Mayor, if you wish me. (Hear.) The MAYOR.—AII these things are not necessary at all ; but proceed. Mr. ASPIN ALL . had only to say that it was most incon sistent in Mr. Alderman Earle now to hold up to obloquy seven gentlemen of the Watch Committee, when, fora period of five years, he had himself been a member of that body without making any objection to the system. (Hear.) Mr. Alderman EARLS.—I beg your pardon. (Cries of " Order.") Mr. ASPINALL declared it was neither fair nor consistent in Mr. Alderman Earle to adopt such a course. (Cheers.) Besides he (Mr. Aspinall) would appeal to the Town-clerk whether, in point of law, the council could now make a law which should be binding upon those who might come in next November, and require them to act upon it. (Hear, hear.) The gentlemen alluded to ought to have been objected to, on the ground of their trade, at the time when, or rather before. they were appointed ; and the council could neither make a retrospective law nor one by which the new council in November next should be guided. (Cheers.) Again, what had the members of the Watch Committee to do with the justices of the peace? If any of the gentlemen to wham the motion had reference sat as justices of the peace at the licensing sessions, as licensing magistrates, they would each have been liable to the penalty of £lOO. (Hear.) There were a great number of gentlemen connected by blood and marriage with members of the Watch Committee, some of whom had even acted as chairman of the licensing sessions ; and if a law was made for one why would it not be made for another. (Hear, hear,) let here, at the end of seven years, this thing war, brought forward ! (Cheers.) It was most ulagra cioue and uncalled for. (Cheers.) He was sorry to make r. use of this strong language, but he did not like to hear gen tlemen holding themselves up, at a very late hour, as if they had done nothing wrong. (Hear.) He (Mr. Aspinall) was one of those who thought that every gentleman admitted to a seat in that Council ought to. have some independence, that he ought to be considered as a man of honour, and no mo tives imputed to any one before it had been clearly proved that wrong, had been done. (Great applause.) Such were his feelings; and whether the gentlemen alluded to consisted of the same party as himself, or were opposed to him, he would at least have done them the justice of sitting in the Council with them without imputing improper motives ; but, at the same time, if be had ever seen, or believed them guilty of any job, or imprcTriety, he would have been the first to stand up against Skew.. He had spoken warmly on this sub ject, because he was sorry Mr. Earle had been so ill advised as to bring it forward; and he thanked the Council for the attention they had given to him. (Load cheers.) Mr. A. Smarr, jun., objeetc4 to the motion; because, however much the intentions might be disclaimed of reflect ing upon the characteza 04 individuals sitting on the Watch Committee, certainly, if the motion w ere carr i e d, it wou ld convey an imputation, of no light nature, upon the seven gentle:nen refetred to. (Hear.) It would go forth to the public, as. a charge against them„ of having acted in an im -1 proper manner upon that Board. (Lieu, hear.) There was no analogy, whatever, between the extracts from the Acts of Parliament read by the Deputy Town-clerk, and the case of those gentlemen a the gentlemen who sat on the Watch Committee had pp, direct intercourse with the publicans, because if informations were laid against them they were taken and heard before the magistrates. (Hear.) Mr. Alderman E4aste.v..—By the police ? Mr. A. Satialt continued. The police laid all informations, but not before the Watch Committee. (Hear.) If the in formatiens were heard, as in the olden time, before the Watch Committee, there might have been some ground for the motion, but they did not now go before the Watch Com mittee; they went direct to the magistrates, and therefore o he (Mr. Smith) could not conceive how those gentlemenh o • who were concerned in breweries, and in the sale of spitatsw_o_ sale, could in the slightest themdegreeinc,anpaecarit,atheear.) They had heard many times, a great deal of discussion of sitting npon the Watch Committee. an un pleasant nature in thateroom and,, in order toput a stop from it, lie should move, as an eapendenent, that the te C h oun c c o il uri to eide precate the frequeilt personal attacks made in upon individual, neeeabers of its body, which have a tendency to bring the Council into disrepute, and provoke rejoinders o f an opplcasaut nature. Mr. HODGSON had no difficulty in rising to second the am endment. The council h a d j us t c hanged their posit!mi g reatly : a while ago they were di sc ussing a subject in which all must deeply sympathize, and feel a common interest , namely, the great subject of extinguishing fires, but now, to use a common phrase, they had fallen " from the frying pan into the fire." It was clear to him, inferentially, th a t the resolution, if tolerat e d b y t h e counc il , wou ld cast a most in jurious imputation or re fl c etion upon a large body of most respectable co nne lU ers , who had been sent into that d influential a Poom by a large the population of Liv question that Hodgson supf Much die of a persona LACE moved A further disc On a discussion For the at Against it The amen& G. H. LAN RE an amendment of Mr. Alderr council divided For the 1 Against it Mr. Alexander tered on the books council separated. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCI UNITI We have received New Yoi inclusive, by the packet-ship which arrived at this port on two 6 The papers cot Mr. Webster and M territory on the north- reference to a resoluti , Maine, relative to certa New Brurisclr, ,sup}: terms of the treaty of ti States and Great Brit v American citi - longing to the dispute by Great Britain to t under the treaty. on receiving intel ;ns bonds or nature of the treaty of Attorney-General of t' upon the bonds in que obeyed the order. " " that the resolutions been grounded upon an sec second set of corresponaer by the British authorities, Daniel Savage, on the territ them forcibly carried into t the particulars of which we bia. Mr. Webster's letter duction of Savage. ..Mr. Fe been found that any indis committed by persons sere British provincial Govern❑ matter will have been alreac ant-Governor." The papers also contain a letter from Mr. "V Everett, the American minister at London, a❑ 28, on the subject of the right of visitation. tion of the puss. of Congress relative to ti remembered, Neither the stock nor any features of interest improving. Bills on London Iv dence. The rate wz Paris the rate was sf: The papers contain the report of White for the murder of his f a Western New York. In the defe set up the plea of insanity, and br< facts, showing singular eccentricit the criminal ; but the judge set asi jury found the prisoner guilty, and to he hanged. The sheriff' jury s in New Yor .been tion, in which judgment I assessed the damages at 1 The city of Brussels - days, by the trial of M. Cat of M. Sirey, in the apartme actress of some celeb r ity b Canmartin, who residr Heinefetter' a nd bad sell, where he left he received a number of p whom be expected t fi n d o nte Hoping to give her a sr d r , b and was himself much ir rpri that she had got anoth , a rivals tat gen tl e man. These apartments, after the theatre, .nd ti ended in the death of M. Sirey, fn flicted with a swo rd cane. On t stated that the deceased not only be he attacked him with a knife and tv and r trihaswr. t oi hewas in rushing fol The jury, after hea rin g the the evidenc vs ►II I aer love MISCELLANI The subscriptions for the lut £sooo' B ANK FAittiKm—The f Goddard, bankers, Market] announced in London on M On Saturday, at the Cou lor, Sir J. L. Knight Brt the bankruptcy of Lord I-1 NEW CHUUCHES.-1 was laid on Easter To and on Friday last a sir at Over Lane, Chester a native of 1 What via An old woman, day, aged 113 years. her age, was the fact, tbh• the last forty years, as she ht. Mr. MOTION ..(r. motion is fixed for the 9th o f conference will take pl.' parts of the kingdom, summon,. Anti-Corn-law League. _fin RAILWAY ACCIDENT Glasgow to Lochwinnoch ters got on a truck to arrang suddenly starting, he fell, ; tant c passed over his b o dy. Ins THE QUEEN'S Col NS EL.--0 Bench, Mr. Serjeant Wranghan Talbot, Mr. Marti °, Mr. Roebu week were 517,2 00 1 b5 ' been appointed her Majesty's Ci men were called within the bar. THE TEA TRADE, APRIL 24.. being a I the preceding week. Th e trade i , public sales of upwards of 60000 , e some to-morrow. COSTLY COLLECTION O F POOR I o n 'fhurs ford Board of G uardians, ltier, state rice, the collecto r for Gau lection for the week to be X l4 12s. ing which amounted to Xl3 ss. 6 d. ! THREE LIVES LOST. a boat, C( _On Se minutes past nine o'clock, came in collision, on tbe Thames, called the Royal Tar , belon! wich Steam-boat C omp O n by whiic oa.--On Wedn D RE ADFUL Ds a w ell in years of age, wa s let down well, for the purposeof cleaningut it of an hour be was spoken to, b w h e n it was a a boy was sent down, uffocate d by s poor fellow had been On Friday evening, the 14th in o. 4 5, stationed at Portglenone N marc h to a plac e in the parish of R Saturday m orn before daylight on lodging in the e scise sto res, 357 lbs., of prime leaf tobacci concealed under ground. —Des CoLLEGIATF. INSTITUTION, 1 meeting of the council and friera medicine, at Birmingham, it was d blish a college for the board, lv students. Amonr lion. Lord Lyttleton, th Rev. Vaughan Thomas. CURIOUS BREAC A OF Pt Captain --- aga inst Miss I-1— marriage, under circumstances has been settled by compromise. and the lawyers had been fee'd. 1 has, we hear, accepted of compen: f or the wou lin nds Pinflosticted upon his one.—Db. ith a Grc t the r SINGULAR gentleman residing in Prince' previously given indicat walk , ions pressed a wish to take a bein aecomp an i e d by a kei perso g n of keeping so close reached the swing bridge w' London Docks he suddenly T the Tobacco Dock basin. RI but he made no effort to minutes. and was dead when SALE OF AUTOGRAPHS, &C, &C. on Wednesday, belonging tc autograph letter from Sir Philip autograph note of Oliver Croup in fine preserdation, and bore ti payment of £l,OOO to the wife of ,etched £3 ls. ; an autorr.-' £5 Its. 6d. : I4s. 6d.; ter, unaddressed, fro, I's. ; one from Lord N September 24, 1801. THE SCOTCH CHURCa. l e t r ecently published urgk the expedience of governme a legislative measure for the troversy which has so long re If Mr. Colquhoun, of Killerrn thority on the intentions of th po licy recommended by the ex likely to be followed. In a members of the Convocation,' under-Line says, " I cannot nc prospect of immediate legisl nex atg after the proceedings of the a letter from ( nd a sign man HERRINt. could have the least idea this fall so ruinously low. The per of herrings in 1841 was 18s. sisting of 113,00(1 barrels in the —a fall, in one year, of ss. per of loss to the curer, or rather 1 a barrel of herrings under 18s. in season 1842. Now, let US E the result of another year's b land and many on the Contin( can hardly be expected to b e e are sent in. The first pric fl more than where the old le s h or e of Wick, w hich, witb recede to Ils. or 125., and the latter price, viz., 1^ of last yea r's take, tained. The crap been talked of here, win c if this price be not exceec, cooerage, and all other ex, most economically, will cost as two price of a barrel of whit showing, again, the prospect of barrel on the year's take. A few y, the trade to a low ebb. --John 0' Gre rRADR ver of M named :ed hint French on the invitation of the the Qu ies of Tea I