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Ft 2, 1847. STAG HOUNDS CO., (Steeple Chase Day.) it Repository, Great' LG HOUNDS in TERS, the Property rough-bred, up to 14 tone. I to 15 stone. ?ars old, got by Lord 111/ or a Nobleman, St. Lawrence, out og y Whalebone. dada, by Humphrey ars old. nan, NTERS. NOVER-STREEI f . bree o'Clock in the , Hanover-street. FURNl 'ects of a Gentleman Splendid Chairs, of Couch, Two Loung- Oblong Loo Tables, y Bronze and Steel d Camp Bedsteads, costly Spanish Ma ro design, Fendeis, tnd rata'acmes had. E COLLECTIOI RY OF BOOKS. !RRIAGE, PONY PIANO-FORTE. 1-ROAD SOUTH, 11th, and FRIDAY. •ecisely each day, on erton SEHOLD FUR iintinge, pi n t o and re, Pony Carriage, lano-forte, yafnnblC Meerschaum Pipe, d Silver Knives, Set 'ramed and Glazed, Bern China Tea and Timepiece under •yelled Guns', Set of Three splendid and 'arved Gilt Frames, Gentleman leaving most modern style. my Chairs, splendid match, Sofa, all up blong solid-top Loo sed pannelled doors e Plate of large di irpet, Hearth Rug, Tes, costly Fifteen ., under shade, mo , with rich Gilt and ms, brilliant-toned of Spanish Maho rming into various ith Plate and other splendid Lounging Ifs, costly Chimney is, Scarlet Moreen China Ornaments Gilt Frames, But th Rug, Fender and Loo, and Lady's handelier, Portable Cnives, &c. &c. with modern Spa ork Table, Set of Chiffonnier, costly Gilt Frame, China xi Folding Doors, indsome Japanned Snap and small Fender and Fire ,ws, with Cornice, 's. Spanish Mahogany Id, Lobby Cloth, et and Stair Rods, Gas Bracket Bnr mepiece, by John tmn-fronted. Store r Ancient and Mo -1 Specimens by B. Verbockseven, A. ongst modern Ar nsboroueh, Morti /vs, Daniels, 'l'. F. smiths, and other •h will be found a iew, Lancet, Scud -Iro. Braithwaite, ; also several La racine, from 1833 :ngland, 16 vols., !attie's Scotland,- National Gallery, .&c. of costly Hasb )irit and Castor modern Tea and ff Box, Tankard. is and costly Spa niny, Bedsteads, eCe i U O t her idZeictS Of Drawers, splendid s, costly modern s under, Painted ds, Toilet Ware, 'm in ster Carpets z Cane and Painted ,ns, &c. &c. &c. ant Dressers, with .stener and Jack, nclosed Drawers, (fives and Forks, e9nisites. a TUESDAY, the k. Catalogues :to eet. h March—Upper ting-room, Paint ale. 11th March— )om, Stairs, Hall, i Carriage, Pony, 12th March—Kit- Enable Paintings, )ERS. 'Y, one of the pool, having Four reet, Kent-street, n, and extensive I' LAND, suitable a short distance House alone cost .LIAMS, 47, Rane- RESIDENCES in SHOPS in some 'ark. Rock Ferry , A M I IX HOUSE, Ditto (near Aber lOUSE, contain' Ilya-monis, Bat' (One concern.) THE PRINCE'S late possession, ESIDENCE, con e Lodging-roomr, hange-street East. 'ard's Double- RAILWAY. ERIALS of the [UP-ROOM at the Ls to Contract for OT before FRIDAY the SECRETARY. ale may be seen of will have to pnll Tials, within Two e Purchase-money ed. 3TII, Secretary. ).CIETY, RA.. c the receipt of X a. if. .. 26 0 0 .. 10 10 0 Theatre, lay Even 7 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 5 0 0 3 0 0 3 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 t 1 0 0 1 0 0 I 0 0 0 10 6 0 10 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 6 0 10 0 0 10 0' —At almost even" iquiry, it appears wovement is not tisting pecuniary the public health. architect, in his use, and gives ill" ons advanced bi nropriate arrange' :s, proper house aced, and branch I.nnual or weal,' wing of the cess ealth of Tawas March 2, 1847. ANNIVERSARY OF ST. DAVID'S DAY. Yesterday, being the anniversary of the patron saint of the*andent Britons, the usual observances were kept up by our Welsh brethren, and with a degree of eclat cor troborative of their increasing numbers and respectability in the town. More especially is to be admired their per severing ( and happily highly successful) efforts to afford a sound Scriptural and useful education to the children of the poor. The children belonging to the Welsh School, in Rus sell-street, accompanied by many of the clergy, and their friends and teachers, walked in procession, with flags and banners, from the school house to St. David's Church, Brownlow-hill, where the usual prayers of the Church were read by the Rev. Mr. Hughes, Incumbent. • The serraon on the occasion was preached in the Welsh language by the Rev. John Griffith, Vicar of Llangeler, Carmarthenshire, who selected for his text that well known and appropriate passage—" Train up a child in the Way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from It."—Prov. xxii. 6. After a few introductory remarks • on the peculiarity of style and detached meaning of the Proverbs of Solomon, the rev. gentleman proceeded to a lengthened explanation of the important duty of educating the young and training them in the practice of religious and moral duties. Numerous passages of scripture were adduced to show that Almighty God has required this at 'eur hands, so that the duty cannot be neglected without 'manifest violation of his law, and great injustice to the thildren of the poor. The advantages of scriptural instruction as the handmaid of religion, and its bene ficial effects to the world at large were ably pointed out. But as the cultivation of the field, the garden, and the vineyard, would prove of no avail unless accompanied by the dew and the rain from heaven : so the blessing of God above, who alone can give the in crease, must ever be sought in earnest prayer by those who are engaged in the instruction of children. The par ties upon whom this duty more immediately devolves are parents, guardians, and executors, paid schoolmasters and schoolmistresses, voluntary tea,chers in Sabbath schools and Ministers of the Gospel. The several circumstances and considerations which coml)ine to render childhood the most suitable period for making a favourable impression on the heart, and directing the feelings and affections into the right channel were examined one by one successively ; and the remit aimed at by the preacher, was secured in producing a deep conviction in the minds of the audience of their duty "to assist in the moral and religious culture -of the rising generation. Several instances of success were also narrated, as affording the best ground of en couragement for patient perseverance in this good work. Afterthe service, the children and their friends returned to the school in procession, and presented a most inte restingappearance ; the whole, boys and girls, being most .neatly though plainly attired, an d w ith coun t enances beaming with satisfaction. The usual examination took Place in the back school-room, which was densely filled bY the •children and a highly respectable assemblage of ladies and gentlemen. Amongst those present we noticed the Rev. Messrs. J. Griffith ; D. James ; 'Robert Davies ; Edward Roberts ; T. Harris : H. Rees, (of Runcorn) ; D. M. Evans ; John Jones ; Wm. Hughes ; Rev. R. 'Owens, &c.—Also, Thomas Robers, Jonathan Roose, - Owen Williams, D. Evans, Ellis Jones, John Jones, Wm. Jones, John Jones, Thomas Lewis, Esqs., and others. Amongst the ladies present were, Mrs. and Miss Clough, the Misses Kyffin, the Misses - Danes, Miss Jones, the Misses Jone's of Everton, and Mrs. Edwards. We also saw Mr. and the Misses Evans, of Hamilton-square. ROGER LYON JONES, Esq. presided on the occasion .and opened the business in a brief but impressive address. The examination of the scholars then proceeded, and was highly satisfactory and interesting. After Scriptural *reading by both boys and girls consecutively, and quesL tions thereupon, (which were aptly and promptly replied to), a fine little girl recited a long piece with astonishing •.precision and effect. A boy recited a long chapter of the 'Bible in Welsh, showing great power of memory. Atm ', ther recited the story of Abdallah, with equal impression. " The Battle of Blenheim," (by Southey,) was most ably recited by another lad. An examination in geography was then entered into. A very little boy then delivered all address, on the part of the scholars to the Committee and friends of the school, and acquitted himself to admira tion.f, The prizes were then distributed. Buns, &c. were n . v.,9 , to all the juveniles, and they appeared to be highly ueught e d . • The whole nnmber of children educate av d at this excel lent institution is about 400, on the agee of attend ; including the pupils of the Infant School, nuinber ipg about 180 on the books. The Rev. W. HUGHES, incumbent of St. David's, then addressed the meeting.—As religion, he said, was a pro minent feature in the Welsh Schools, it was to be helped that the young ones instructed there, would always be actuated by religious principles. They would then grow up to be exemplary men and women, and not only be good and useful members of society, but under the bless ing of God, they would be possessed of that knowledge, Which would make them happy here, and fit them for more perfect happiness in thatlife, for which this is only a Prelude. By imparting religious education, they had the satisfaction to reflect, that they were training up a child in the way he should go. :It was a matter of fact, at tested by familiar observation, that children came forth from the hands of their parents and teachers, stamped they wereacba racter that seldom ',deserted them in after life, impressed with manners, tastes, habits, and opinions, which circumstances might modify, but never "'ace. How necessary it was-then to have them trained 11 P religiously, not only to teach them their duty towards "art, but likewise towards . God, not only to convince _them that they had intellects, but also that they were Possessed of immortal souls, not only to direct them to those things which might be , for their welfare and save :them from ruin in this life, but likewise to that adorable Aaaiour•who-wasahle and willing to save them from -eter nal destruction, yea, to impress on their minds, that they had to do not only with the affairs of this transitory life, but that they were candidates for eternity. Whilst the child' then was taught to read, whilst he was taught to .obey, whilst he was taught his , duty towards all men, let that inspired and royal precept, often resound in his ears, ." Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth." The CHAIRMAN, at the ,-close, expressed his high satisfaction with all he had witnessed as regarded the conducting of the school, in-Y. hick religion was blended with secular instruction, and stated that he should enrol himself as a member of the institution. Several other gentlemen feelingly addressed the meet ing, and thanks being voted to..the chair on the motion of 'llle Rev. Mr. Davies, the children wound up the proceed tugs by singing the National Anthem. We hear that the Rev. Mr.,Griffiths, the highly dis ting►uished minister from South Wales, is to preach again • At Bt. David's church, next Sunday. THCABRIAN . cc. At five o ' c l oc k a l arg e number• of SOCIETY the. members of the Anihrian Society, and their friends, sat down to an ex:. 'e.ellent and sumptuous dinner, in the large and elegant U nion -street. at Mr. Chas. Leedham's,'New York Hotel, bottom h i . -I _.ilion-strect. From eighty to ninety gentlemen were biq7 . l l,t, and were delightfully-entertained throughout, ,th e u e good management and the general enthusiasm of „°.`!caion. E. G. WitLiAms ably presided ; Mr. John WU tl,;lB was equally efficient as vice-chairman ; and amongst cora-an p ywe observed the Revs...T. Griffiths, William 'l 4 • ghes, of St. David's, D. James, °Mirk-dale, and other ;PPR:len, &c. ; of the laity, Thomas Lewis, Thomas "lighes, John Jones, E. P. Jones, Glynn, 11. Thomas, a nd others, Esquires ; and Mr. •M ars h, surgeon of the So ciety, Mr. James, surgeon, Mr-William Parry, sur geon, &c., &c. The following gratifying rcportwas then read : " Thetrinount received in the last twelve months, £l7l £5.1.1 ;; he n p a i lia mmdbofueoryristi of t h ose h a fnousdieadr receiving n n a ii ai n itgi o ad benefit between. e fi dn s u .. 9 r,.. 3 d go 0 ; for funerals, illness, 37. Deaths ? 4 ; —namely, three mete 7 ;, and one member's wife. None-memers admitted, several have .been propored, lint not yet elected. " Since the formation of the Cambrian Society, forty - . Tears ago, the sum of £4,687 165..9d.,, hasibeen paid to memberr during illness, and .1.2,595 fen the interment of its deceased members, 93 of whom,wore members, and . 45 5 their wives or widows." After the dinner the usual loyal toasts (includ ing . as a `natter of course the Prince of Wales,) . were. given, and • l eeeived with enthusiasm ; and followed by appropriate ` 4ll s on the - Welsh harp. The toast of the LOrd Bishop ° f -the Diocese was given amid much applause. The Rev. W. lltTonEs, minister of St. David's, re """ntled. He said, he hoped that the toast was Rot pro 'cl as a mere olld compliment, bat -in order to evince approbation of that church, that has -weathered the 'ii", l "ois of ages, and is, no doubt, destined by an 'all-wise •( . I ,"A'idence, to be-a bulwark of that Protestant • form of ~"tistianity which !they desired to hand down to the .6_ildren yet unborn. 'With regard to the Lord,l3isbop of 4 4 ester, his piety. his kindness of manner., .his .affability addref.s, his energy and zeal, he said, ,could never he ,i'eeeded. May all the clergy in the diocese.endeavour to Illi tate that perfect model of faithfulness and indomitable Zseveranee, presented to them in their regpected. and } Ay val d Diocesan. (Hear, hear.) He was ; glad ..th„ ue „ )I `T' were permitted once more to meet on the amiiversary their patron saint ; and as members of the Cambrian k i ci etY, they-had the satisfaction to think, that they. were ,„ only keeplug up their twine as Welshmen, or preserv ,l4;their languaze, but thal.voiding the impositions incl.- 'Nit() indiscriminate charity, they were doing much n ( kkri with small individu a l m ean s. Fe w , p er h a p s , ,of the i4en.lbors o f their society could command their hundreds tue Near ; but it would be enough to make many a rich wii,h his princely fortu' e, .blush, to find how many t . ,., - " e l d 2 a ti rms ,e go a d sTur i been :a re t l a ie n v , ed by it ; yea, how it has in binding up the wounds of then be yo urs . the affi e i s h ' v i a icted- Let th e mo tt o o f one o f oar E ng li s h noble mind of a " Cor u unit. " (Cheers.) The native land, with his W h nnum• aturally, on this day. reverts to his an Daiity. He would ask— d Pointing towards the Princi .. Breathes there aWelgbman with soli so dead, That nc'er on tius.day to himself h • felic.priTl)liswrishefilyreo own , there tytiaatinvoetliaireirde"onanst:as:di wh - it - l ; so many ar e unable to read the law s s th o e f world la 'ld, and so few transgress them — that has so fetts•:_dvtahna-t gem, and so much social and domestic happth• e ;AL? re little favoured by art, and so replete witoltthenirm:nt tC"n rki 1 sceneries of nature—so overlooked by gvern Yet so loyal It was to be hoped that better days ant ministers of advancement, whichntveridheedio 4:uction with Promethean scorn, were 1 4 "ced there. Yea, let the Welsh be educated, and the 41 1 ? er then be removed for other Newtons to thenwlves—yea, for other Miltons, Bacons, and J o Vies to come forth. He would ask the writer in the th ei r 7 Bull newspaper, who void that the existence of h o lan guage was th e on ly b ar t o th e i r improveme nt , th_" . was it that 44dnorshire, in South Wales, in whirl) sag Welsh language hed bo th erpe by the English. `after all, behind Ow counties in the scale of • l iltation j Whey they talked about their laagusgef they scategy knew what to touch upon first—whether to trace ItS antiquity, or to dwelt upon its expressiveness and sul3limity. (Hear, hear.) Would they see the sublimity of Homer combined with the elegance of Virgil —would they see the elegance,' the ease and sweetness of the historian of Halicarnassus, combined with the fire, the conciseness, and the energy of Thucydides, read Welsh prose. Where among modern speakers and orators did they find the thunders of the mighty Athenian equalled ? they were no where to be found, if they did not sometimes accompany Welsh oratory. They saw this in the thun derbolt effect often produced in their Welsh meetings, and, he was sure, the thrilling sensations produced at St. David's Church, that morning and the previous day, would fully bear him out in this. He here alluded in glowing terms to the well known talents of 11Ir. Griffiths, the preacher of the day. Their language, he said, was so dear to them, however others might scoff at it, and compare it to an im becile old woman, requiring the antiquarians and the old dames of Merioneth, for nurses, that they ventured to pre dict, that as long as the sun shines over Snowdon, and as long as the breezes fan the hills of Cambria, or the stars twinkle over its valleys, so long shall the old " Cymraeg " be in existence. The conduct of the Welsh at that seri ous crisis spoke volumes for their character—the des titution in Wales was nearly equal to that in Ireland or SCotland, what did they see ? Others were cha acter ized by their usual obtrusive forwardness, and the Welsh suffered in silence, yea many of them were sinking without a murmur to their graves, rather than prey like harpies on their fellow-men. Others will not dig, and are not ashamed to beg. The Welsh will dig, and are ashamed to beg. When they considered the artless simplicity of the natives of the Principality, their unadorned piety, their industry, their unparalleled hospitality,—when they considered, he said, that every house there was an asylum and every mother a matron, they would not be far out of place in using the words of the poet, and saying— " They would not change their native land, For rich Peru with all her gold; A nobler prize lies in our hand, Than Last and Western Indies h01d.".. The health of the Rev. Mr. GRIFFITHS, the preacher of the day, having been heartily given, that gentleman returned thanks in elegant terms, stating that he had come from . South Wales on a very brief notice, and that although he was a perfect stranger in this part of the country, he was at once delighted and astonished by the feeling he had that day seen displayed, as regarded the Welsh and their schools, and proud beyond expression of his kindly reception as a stranger amongst them. He concluded by reading some verses of his own extempore composition, in the Welsh language, expressive of his feelings on his journey northward from South Wales, which gave great delight to all the Cambrian linguists present, and we regret that not knowing that expressive, and, we believe, emphatic and poetical language, we cannot sup ply a translation. The speaker was most enthusiastically cheered. On the health of the Rev. Mr. JAMES, of Kirkdale, be ing given, that gentleman replied in elegant and forcible terms. He strongly alluded to the culpable conduct of certain landlords in Wales (as in Ireland), who dealt hardly with their tenants—absorbing small and comfort able farms into immensely large ones, to the dstruction of the respectable and industrious peasantry, masses of whom were consequently forced, to obtain subsistence, to emi grate to foreign lands, though they loved, to an intense degree, the land of their fathers. He referred in strong lan guage to the inefficiency of the government scheme of educa tion for Wales, and its religious instruction. The Bishops, the heads of the church, appointed by government for the ruling of the Clergy in the Principality, did not under stand the language of the country, nor did many of those who were under them. This, he argued, was a decidedly mistaken and wrong system. After expatiating at some length on these topics, and with great energy and elo quence, the reverend gentleman sat down amidst general demonstrations of accordance with his views. The toast of " The Strangers who have honoured the Society with their presence," was feelingly responded to by Mr. LEWIS, of London. A number of other speeches were made, well worthy of being reported ; but the lateness of the hour, and the peculiar interest excited by a discussion going on in ano ther quarter, preclude us from doing that justice to the Welsh dinner-party, which we should otherwise have been rejoiced to award. Suffice it to say, that the whole proceedings were most loyal, amicable, and social. ANCIENT BRITONS' SOCIETY. The annual dinner of this society, commemorative of the .anniversary of St. David's day, was held yesterday evening, at the Brunswick. room, Hunter-street. The room, which is spacious, was decorated with evergreens and flags, and a grand ornamental canopy was erected over - the - head of the president. The dinner, supplied by Mr. Jones, of Byrom-street, was most substantial and excellent, though the crowded state of the room pre vented that individual attention that would otherwise have been given. The chair was occupied by Mr. Evans, and the vice-chair by Mr. E. Hughes. Near the head table, we observed the Rev. Robert Davies, Rev. John Jones, Rev. Thomas Harris, Rev. Henry Rees, Rev. Richard Owens, Rev. D. 'M. Evans (Salop), Alderman Griffith, Ellis Jones, Esq., David Evans, Esq., R. T. L o d ge , E sq., M . D ., Thomas Hughes, Esq., Robert Hughes, Esq., W. C. Davies, Esq., Robert Evans, Esq., Thomas Hornby Evans, Esq., R. P. Williams, Esq., R. P. Pughe, Esq., Samuel Jones, Esq. • Grace was most forcibly given in the Welsh language ; and after the cloth was removed and thanks returned, The CHAIRMAN gave "The Queen," which was most enthusiastically drunk, with three times three. _ A Welsh englyn was then given by Mr. Hughes, and followed in the same language by " God save the Queen." The CHAIRMAN then, in a neat and somewhat witty address, •gave " The Prince of Wales, " which was also - fellewed by a Welsh englyn , composed for the occasion by Mr. Hughes, and " Up with the Leek." The next toast was, " Prince Albert and the rest of the 'Royal Family," which was appropriately introduced and followed by " Hail Star of Brunswick." The Rev. Mr. EVANS then proposed " The immortal Memory of Saint David," which was drunk in silence. The PRESIDENT then gave " The Bishop and Clergy of the Diocese," which was most rapturously received. O. EVANS, Esq., then proposed the health of Earl Powis and the nobility of Wales, whichwas received with thunders of applause. Air—". March of the Men of Harleeh." The VICE-CHAIRMAN then gave " The Honorary Members'," to which Thomas Hughes, Esq., most ably and feelingly responded. ..T-he Rev. Mr. HARRIS proposed . the Directors of the Welsh Charity School, to which Alderman GRIFFITH re plied, in.an appropriate manner, concluding by proposing the " President," who, in his usual excellent style, gave " Br. Ellis Jones, the late surgkon to the society." 'The reply was couched in eloquent terms, and concluded with the health of "The Vice-chairman," who, in reply, .gave-"•Dr.= Lodge." " Prosperity to the Ancient Britons' Society" was then proposed, and replica to by R. P. WIL LIAMS, Esq. _ _ _ • . " The strangers who have honouretins with their pre sence," "The Committee of the Welsh Lectures," " Oes y Byd it Jaith Cymraeg," "The Town Council of Liver pool," -"The Town and Trade of 'Liverpool," "‘ The Officers of the Society," and a number of other toasts followed. Throughout the meeting, the greatest hilarity pre vailed, and the continued good feeling and-enthusiasm that was manifested amongst the natives.. of that " un conquered nation," was such as must be admired. Tl► e proceedings were almost entirely in Welsh. LATEST INTELLIGENC E. (BY EXPRESS.) .LONDON CORN MARKET.—YE6TE n The e t i past st h om e o week'sarrivals of English Wheat, .Barley, Malt, ocherßeans, and Flour were on a f a i r average scale, but those of all h produce were small. The receipts of gr e su r n pc f e rr e y a reland and Scotland were trilling. From abroad r iafe 'Z ino limited supply of Wheat and Flour; but that of a moderate supply . , and Beans was somewhat extensive. Coastwise, of Wheat r eac h e d us from Essex and,Kent. By land c arr i age and sample the quantity •was by no means large. On the .whole, the st a a n nils were tolerably well filled %f el artegnthitce‘vboite i in rn. good condition. considerable Se wi v ti e l ra p l a b r t e i) e 'e ls rs firmness was manifested on the parttrofnttli;%Cre'. one thousand quarters .of Kentish Wheat w o e l ix d7 s s t;hr fdo about country, atprices rather above those obtained on Mondav i' last. However, as-the Essex• qualities were in by no means active I request. andas a total clearance was not effected, we may call the English Wheat trade steady, at last Monday's currencies. The quantity of Foreign Wheat on show was small; neverthe less. the transactions in that article were only to a moderate extent, at unaltered currencies. We had a large show of English and Foreign Barley, which met a very dull inquiry, at a reduc tion in value of from Is. to 2s. per quarter. Superfine White Malt moved off •slowly, at late rates; but all tither kinds might have been purchased at a reduction of quite Is. per quarter. The total supply of Oats being more than adequate to meet the wants of the dealers, the trade-vas dull, and prices were 6d. to Is. per quarter lower than on this day se'nnight. In Beaus next to nothing was done, and the quotations receded Is. per quar ter. All kinds of Pens .were heavy, and the turn lower than last week. In Hour, either sark or,barrelled, very few sales were concluded. In prices we have no alteration to notice. Several 'Cargoes of Indian Corn were sold at very full rates. MONEY MARKET.--4 7 EsTEnnAY. • Consols have fluctuated considerably, as might have boanex , pected, tinder the influence. of the dealings in the scrip of the loan. At the commencement of, the.business the price for ac ,count was run up to 913, but it' has since receded to 901 I, stud for money to 901.,• Reduced Three per Cents. have been done , (Nm 91 to 914, the Three,and-a-Quarter per Cents. 113 to On, Batik Stock 2051, and India 251, Exchequer-bills are still flat„ the-advertised having been done at 1, and the others are 3 to - Mr. Macmillan the celebrated ventriloquist will have perfomances in this town on Wednesday and Friday. :Latham, with all his corps, vill be present at the steeple .chase, yrhen he will provide splendid dinners throughout the. day. We shall lift our knife and fork there. MeSsrs. C. Chubb & Son are .appointed luck and fire proof safe 'manufacturers to her Majesty, and were sworn vu st-St. James's Palace on Thursday last. FoTEEPLE'CRASE.—Mr. Lawton, of the. Clayton Arms, has This year the grand stand at Aintree ' which ia in itself it guarantee tlisa it will be well provided. THE NEWVIU.EANS SHRENAPERS.—This talented band gave their concluding concert. at the Liver Theatre on Saturday evening, on which occasion the profits .of their efforts were devoted to that excellent charity the District Provident Society. We are extremely sorry, that their stay amongst us has been so short, but we trust they will shortly visit us again; for nightly their talent became more • manifest. • .They were not confined, like many professed Ethiopian imitators, to a peculiar line of melody. Their varied c ees seemed unlimited, ,00d nightly th e y p r esented a programme. As solo players upon their various instrum ents while their we may fnairlyted i .:tyle them unapproachable, acting l le P trust that l i ' 2 nat. tfrali bus.' niggar society in ris the metropolis, for which they hairo started, they will eas siieressful as they de. serve.; awl are quite h • t'- ued to place this limit to such success. DlED.—Last night, awfully Ex d,4 4l. Th o „ , T L , y ! or, Clpg.glsto4-rark, TII} LIVERPOOL STANI)ARD. THE DISCUSSION.-SECOND EVENING. Yesterday evening this Discussion was resumed in the Concert Hall, Lord I\relson-street. From an early hour in the evening, the house was densely filled by a most respectable audience, all of whom seemed by their anxiety to take a lively interest in the issue of the proceedings. The platform was crowded by clergymen and gentlemen of various creeds. Mr. Miall was the first to appear upon the platform, and on entering the room he was warmly received by his friends. He wasfollowed almost immediately by the Rev. Mr. Baylee, who was received by the meeting with the most enthusiastic cheers. When silence was restored Mr. ROBERTSON, as chairman for Mr. Miall, rose and stated that they had met together by adjournment that evening to resume the discussion of the question which had occupied their attention on Friday evening last. It would be unnecessary for him to say anything in addition to what he then said, more than to bring before them in substance the arrangements of the committee for the re gulation of the meeting, which were the same as those which had been announced on the last night of the dis cussion. He could not, however, resume his seat with out returning his own thanks, and those of his fellow chairman for the very gratifying and harmonious spirit in which the audience had met t hose arrangements, as their meeting • had been characterised by good order and the utmost regularity. The committee expressed their strong est desire that the same arrangements would be carried out on the present evening, and that the meet ing- would, as was their bounden duty, listen to the truth patiently and dispassionately (cheers). The Rev. Mr. Pommel( then came forward, and on presenting himself, was most cordially received. He said that if he said in all sincerity on last Friday evening that he accepted with reluctance the office which he then held, he was bound to say that he resumed his duties in that office to-night under feelings of strong encouragement. (Cheers.) It was with the utmost pleasure that he was joined in the office of chairman with a gentleman so courteous and honourable as his friend Mr. Robertson. (Cheers.) He was also most gratefully surprised with the general tone and spirit which had, upon the previous evening, characterised their proceedings. He said this with reference to both the speakers. It would not, however, be for him to say anything of his own friend Mr. Baylee,(cheers) ;—but he would say of his opponent, Mr. Miall, that he had set an example to all who agreed with him in opinion, which was most creditable to himself, and worthy of being imitated by all. To the general tone and temper of the meeting lie had also to bear his willing testimony. True, some interruptions occurred during their last meeting; but he was quite sure that such interruptions had not originated with any Churchman. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) If he was allowed to make an observation with regard to the question which was to come 'before thorn, he would remind them that the question was not the claim of the Church of England on the one hand and Dissent on the other to be supported, that was to be discussed this evening. It had been agreed on both sides that Christian ministers were to be sapported by some means; and then the question arose as to whether the state was to be their pay- I tnaster. The voluntary principle if adopted would, no doubt, affect the Church of England in these kingdoms ; would also affect the Church of Scotland on the other side ' of the Tweed, and the Church of Rome in all Roman Ca tholic countries alike; and if it were the will of God to raise another Oliver Cromwell in England, it was a prin ciple that might soon affect even the most strenuous of the non-conformists themselves. (Cheers,) He hoped they would not allow themselves to be hurried into the expression of any bad feeling on account of anything that might fall from the respective advocates on that occasion. He hoped that good would follow from this associa tion, and that they would part from each other like those smoothe stones which were sometimes thrown up by the sea on the beach ; and that they would part from each other, not roughened in temper, but smoothed in heart and mind by their collision with each other. (Cheers.) The Rev. Chairman then retired, when Mr. Robertson again rose, and introduced to the meeting Mr. MIALL, who was warmly received by his own par tizans. . He commenced his address by recapitulating his impressions of the several arguments that were employed on the previous evening, and, having done so, he pro ceeded to say that he would resume his argument by lay ing before them as succinctly as possible, the line.of argu ment which he intended to follow that evening. He was fully aware he might be laying himself open to a kind of taunt when he said that it was not necessary that they should be differing on specific passages of Scripture, when they had not as yet agreed as to the specific kind of inter pretation that they would put upon each of those passages. (Hear, hear, hear.) He deemed it better, on all accounts, that they should, first of all, ascertain in what respect the Old Testament and the New were identical, and how far the Old Testament authority could be brought forward for the maintenance of Christian truth in these and in future days. (Lon(' cheers.) If he (Mr. Miall) fell short in his advocacy of the question before them, the general body of the Dissenters should not be taxed with his falling off.; for he spoke only his own opinions and sentiments. He would not tax the Church of Eng land with anything that might fall from his opponent.; and, therefore, he hoped that any failing on his part would be attributed rather to a want of merit on his own part than to a want of proof to sustain theirnpinions by those with whom he happened to be identified. He would now proceed to his argument, and would commence by stating that he believed the Old and the New Testament to be identical in many things. They 'were the same in every part. There were, in fact, nothing more than different ministrations of the same spirit:; that these two Testaments were but a different embodiment of one light, just as the grub and the butterfly were identical — as they embodied the same essentials of life, although their organisations were entirely different and distinct. So lie believed-that the old dispensation of Moses and' the new Christian dispensation of the Redeemer were essentially the same. But beyond that, he would con tend 'that the Old Testament and the new were not identical as to the terms in which each presents the divine truths to the mind of man. (Loud cheers.) The one held up the truth of religion in its rituals, its ceremonies, its types, and its scenic representations ; whilst the other held up that faith--the faith of the Redeemer—in all historical facts, and the most extraor dinary and truthful deductions which were to be drawn from those unmistakeable facts, and sublime truths, which were not typical, but real. (Hear, hear.) He did nest admit that the Old Testament furnished any direct authority as to the mode in which the Gospel of Christ should be supported by its disciples. After all, the ques tion would arise whether the revealed Mind of God, in so far as they had the power of judging, was set against the compulsory principle of supporting his Church. This he would endeavour to prove. He wished to impress upon their minds that it seemed to him that the compulsory system was an essential part of that dispensation with which it was connected, and with which it was found to be associated. The religion of the Jews was entirely pros pective—all its rites were suggestive of something to come. It looked forward to the day when the Christian dispensa tion of the Redeemer should be established in the world. —Under that dispensation there was no individual religious freedom. All the power of the magistrate of the state was exercised to compel the people to adopt an unanimous system of religious faith. He knew that this point in the old dispensation, the power of the civil magistrate, who ' was directly appointed by God himself, ..could secure. This he could secure so far as his action was permitted to , intervene between God and the worshipper. This unani mity the magistrate was commanded to secure ; and here, if lie (Mr. Miall) mistook not, lay the whole secret of the question at issue. God, in his infinite mercy, they were aware, limited the action of the magisterial power to .its proper sphere. They knew that they were enjoined.that not one pin of the tabernacle should be re moved—that not a single emblem of the typical ceremo nials of the tabernacle should be altered—that all should, be as he showed it to Moses on the Mount ; and any de viation from it the magistrate had the power to punish. From ehis ,they would perceive that so far, the action and the power of magistrates went to secure actual and universal conformity in the observance of the Jewish dis pensation—the very thing which his reverend friend de nied in that dispensation ; but after all lie thought that compulsorynloss t f .r r o e i l n e d r a : x ." 1 , 1 . ' t , 0 ,, . dieu prin ci p l e rather glory st:atgh,.tatl,iogrroi guided , i ,:ht n iiiitars t }:ll l , tolerance idb7easavgbil )it,)siou,t magistrates thattdeal etsbir t , : ay f i tni. . do tl ied e re, nor could th ere be an ( l e i b e e ( ) 11." very properly those d ays Under adl,l,r) that contended s).st system m that the ( old law (cheers). teisiatatbelissthalbnieisiliteniiirsa:idt.test g l rt•r). l If they'n ' ere . I t osnic n ;I:;dl'a t r i a: i o e n h s a a l t re i o n a did go under the persecuting rule of WEitgate (cheers). If gentlemen would go so far, they ought not • to shrink from going the whole length to which their arguments would lead them. He contended that the priesthood under the old law were supported by the free-will offerings of the people, and therefore that support could not be regarded as being compulsory. Those offerings were the first fruits of the earth, and the offerings of goodwill and lose. tin. the Lord, %%thigh were shared ketween the altar.and the priest. lie maintained that it could not be shown, throughout the whole of the gospel, that the magistrates were ever allowed 'by the .Jewish law, civil or Levitical, to enforce the maintenance of the Jewish church from the recusant, people of the age.; for there were in those days recusants as well as in the present. There were men who refused to pay tithes, .and who consequently, according to the law, robbed God of that which was due to his church. But, he would ask, what was the punishment inflicted in those days ou those who did ? They knew what it would be under the present dispensation. (Hear. hear, and,elieers.) They knew that iu England and Scotland if a man refused to pay his tithe; the authority of the soldier or sthe policeman would be brought into operation to bring the exaction from him; and that the recusant's goods anda•hattels would be Bold under the penal enactments, which ,the State had created for the support of the Church. et them examine the Bible, -and inform themselves how God acted under cir cumstances almost similar. They knew that when the Temple was built, the Lord commanded the people to go up to the mountain, and bring wood and build the house ; and some of thok who disobeyed or, xather neglected this command, as given through the Prophet Haggai, were thus rebuked;--'• Ye looted for much, (here was 'the punishment) so itcame to little ; and when you brought it t upon home I did blow upon it (not the magistrate.) Why ? s a ith tit e Lord of Hosts. Because of my house which is w as t e , and ye run every man into his own house. Therefo re th e heaven over you is stayed from dew, and tho, earth is u u g i / lo t n tht w u h d i stayed from her fruit. Amid m i p ca on lied the fo o r il a , and d a the land, and . upon the mountains, - and upon the corn, ch7thne4igieronuenwd wine, and brimigeth forth, and upon men, And upon .coUle, and upon the labour of all th 3 hands." Th at was, as his friend was desirous of having the c h ap t er and verse; t a ken from the Ist, chapter, 9tb, 10th, and 11th verses. (hut, hear, and laughter.) In the 3rd of 3faiochi, verses th e Bth and 9th, they hid another instance of the nature of time punishment which the J,ArAI inflicted for au iufriugement a his laws iu this respect ; toad be- sides, thesithings proved most c'early that the power of pusissinent was nor in the hands of the civil magistrate; but in the Lord himself. The passage was : Will a man rob God ? Yet ye have robbed me. But say ye wherein have we robbed thee ? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse : for ye have robbed me even this whole nation." To every thoughtful reader of the word of God, it would occur how they were to account for this divine threatening and judgment against those who refused to bring their offerings into the temple of the Lord, if there had been any intelligent magistracy in whose hands these things had been entrusted. They knew that at present the power of the law was all sufficient to overtake any offender against the church endowment act. At the present time they needed no threatening from Heaven. They needed no curses from the mouth of the Most High to be pronounced against them ; for they were sufficiently punished for their recusance, although now they were not robbing God, but only infringing on the temporal laws of the state. That, however, they would not be allowed to do with impunity ; for the state would force their exactions from them, (Hear, hear.) The whole tendency of this agreement went to prove these two points :—First, That the union of church and state in Judea, under the old dispensation, was exhibited in that very aspect that good, holy, pious, and religious churchmen most re pudiate, as being intolerant, and not under that aspect to which they would . look up as a model for the maintenance of Christ's gospel on earth ; and secondly, that the civil power never was employed to make the maintenance of the Church of Judea compul sory on the people. He would now proceed to points of a kind, and in doing so he contended that all more positive. • expense attending the divine worship of God under the Jewish dispensation was maintained entirely by the volun tary principle. They had some of the most extraordinary exhibitions of the effects of the voluntary principle under the Old Testament dispensation. In the 25th Exodus Ist and 2nd verse, they found it stated that " the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering, and every man that giveth it willingly with his heart, ye shall take my offering." And in the 36th chapter of the same in the 2d and 3d vs. they found it related that Moses called Bezaleel, and Aholiab, and every wise hearted man, in whose heart the Lord had put his wisdom, even every one whose heart stirred him up to come unto the work to do it. And they received of Moses all the offering which the children of Israel had brought for the work of the service of the Sanctuary, and to make it withal, and they brought yet unto him free offerings every, morning. (Cheers.) And again in the building of the Temple they had another .striking instance of the effects of the voluntary princi ple. In the 29th chapter of the First Book .of Chroni cles, they_ had an . example of David in this matter. It was stated there :—" Now I have prepared with all my might for the house of my God the gold I for things to be made of gold, and the silver for things of silver, and the brass for things of brass, the iron for . things •of iron. and wood • for things of wood ; onyx, stones, and stones to be set, glistening 'stones and of divers colours, and all manner of .precious stones and marble stones in abundan c e. Moreover, because have set my•affection to the.house of my God, I have Of mine own proper good of gold and silver, which I have given to the house of my God, over and above all I have prepared for the holy house." And in the reign of King Josiah, as related in the 24th chapter of the 2d Book of Chronicles, they had another striking illustration of the power, the magnitude, and the efficiency of the voluntary principle when fairly applied to the support of the church of God. He had, he conceived, offered them strong evidence to show that the power of the magistrates was employed under the Mosaic dispensation, in order to enforce conformity in the mode in which the people should worship God. That their power was not exercised for the support or maintenance of the priesthood. And he conceived that all the passages of the sacred writ ings, which had any reference to the matter at issue, strongly pointed out to them that the voluntary prin ciple was the principle then acted upon by the people. (Hear, hear.) They knew that recusance in the case of the nonpayment of tithes was not looked after by the civil power ; and they also knew full well that the church, under the old dispenSation, was not as sisted by the state in order to enforce her sustenance off the people. And they were also• aware, it , was clear, that the magisterial power of . the state was then only exercised.for the purpose of enforcing conformity in matters of faith. (Cheers.) After some few other obser vations in support of the above arguments, Mr. Miall re sumed his seat amid much applause. The Rev. J. BAYLEE then rose, and was received with loud cheers. He said that he would begin his share of the proceedings of the evening by observing that he thought it the primary duty of the pleaders to keep to the subject before the meeting; and, therefore, when a chal lenge was thrown down to him at the last meeting, he did not think it right then to take it up ;—(applause)— but although that meeting was assembled for one purpose, there was no reason why, at a fitting opportunity, he should not discuss the other queStion.—(Hear, hear.) — The Anti-State Church Association had sent down a deputation to Liierpool, and from that deputation the challenge of the present discussion had emanated. He had been told by the respected gentleman who was chair man for Mr. Miall, that it was the intention of the Asso ciation to send deputations to all 'parts of the country; , and therefore he thought it right to send to London, fo r ' he liked to argue from the centre, this challenge, expres sive of his willingness to meet any gentleman whom they might appoint iu that city.—(Loud cheers.)—The Rev. gentleman then read the following paper, which was most vociferously cheered at the end of each proposition. At its conclusion, he handed the paper to Mr. Miall, amid continued cheers "The Anti-State Church Association having sent a deputation to Liverpool to assail one of the leading prin ciples of the Church of England, the Rev. Joseph Baylee hereby declares his readiness to meet, at any convenient time and place in London, any person or persons deputed by the said association to discuss the following questions : 1. Are English Dissenters justified by the Word of God in their separation from the Church of England ? (Loud cheers.) " 2: Can any body of English Dissenters prove that their constitution, government, and discipline is in accordance with the Word of God ? (Loud applause.) "3. Is the endowment of the church by the state sanc tioned by the Word of God ? " Has the Church of England a scriptural claim to such endowment? (Loud applause.) Birkenhead, March 1, 1847. JOSEPH BAYLEE." The rev. gentleman proceeded. He had stated on the last evening what he painfully knew. (Confusion, and cries of " turn him out.") He was aware that he should be obliged to state things not congenial to the feelings of his fellow Christian Dissenters. • (Hear.) But ha was glad upon that occasion to state, because a charge ;had I been made against him that he excluded Dissenters from Heaven, that he believed that the s a l va ti on o f ever y man depended alone upon his holding the faith of Christ. He therefore utterly repudiated such a sentiment, as having a tendency towards Tractarian or Romish notions. (Tre mendous cheers.) The question, however, that evening, was not whether Dissenters were Christians, or whether the Church of England was right, but whether the word of God supported endowments to the Christian religion. —(Applause.)—On Friday he maintained that Dissenters did not study the Old Testament Scriptures. lie reiter ated the sentiment that evening, and the truth of it was painfully manifest in what had fallen from his opponent. —(Hear and cheers.)—llis opponent had indeed quoted many passages of Scripture from the Old Testament ; but what did they refer to ? Why, that it was right and proper to support religion by voluntary contributions ? (Hear, hear, amid cheers.) Who denied it ? He did not dispute that point ; but; on the contrary, asserted that it was the duty of every man to contribute of his substance towards the spread of religion, because all he had belonged to God. (Loud applause.) What had fallen from Mr. Miall might., therefore, appear all very plausible ; but he should recollect the words of the wise man—" He that is first in his own cause seemeth right, but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him." (Loud cheers.) Why was it when he (Mr. Baylee) made the distinction, last Friday evening, between the Temple and the Synagogue service, that no reference whatever had been made to the latter that evening ? (Applause.) Why was it, when they were called Judnizing Christians, that no reference had been made to his argument, that sA t l oi t ( e 7t;sie S , t ? a t thee (ContinuedCtl i u lp rc i e h y gas i tcebriue cheers.) But before luitnta the time of t 7 w c as ont s r a ib id u , tio f n or s: t t fipr this ss T iuyi l e,p m a tprt ti v,,, v t. a t g s ioe,i N kn. s t i tt r ,lh a :a., t m,ts h es a srp, d y:ire, p : as ,dg:o se :.i d utde: : v i i ,;. a e,, y tts;, — , h 7 e i : t e u j' a .k . t } t ia i y h , t:ulYisestaitsleSlly:rn agogue (Immense cheers.) Aly dissenting fellow Christians, said have succeeded in drawing your attention back to the study of the 01t1Testantent, Imn thankful—l tun thank ful.•. I can coincide with, I hope I Irtay say, my brother Christian, that the Old Testament sloes contain prin ciples binding on all our consciences. (Loud cheers.) The Rev. Gentleman proceeded. Ile stated on the last occasion, that he had' good reason for believing that ;the Old Testament was not studied by Dissenters; but ietad more reason for believing it then, looking to the application which his oPponeOt had made of the quotations he had given .from the prophets. Why, all he had read about the disapprobation of God against time people for not contributing to the temple seta ice, referred to a time when the civil magistrate had not the power to enforce payment of tithes, and'sheretOre the whole of the quotation from Haggai and Malachi were totally irrele vant-to the question. (Cheers.) There was reiteration of what he thought he had answered on the fornmer occa sion ; but it seemed his answer had not been thought worthy of attention by his opponent. ((;Neely,) He should be glwl to have an answer to his repeated demand on Miall, to produce to him one single passage from the Bible to prove that the synagogue system bad passed away. Instead of that, ,he had fallen into the Romish system of tacking otnh.e Ttemplehere u s - e a rlie as a s vice as theii-typeopfrethsrtt c enilpilse lservice.- but that was in heaven, not on earth, (Cheers.) It lied been said by his opponent that the temple service was identical with the present, after the manner of the grub And the butterfly; 'but they should recollect that the butterfly did not crawl .on the earth, but flew in the pea yens. (Applause and laughter.) All that, however, had ( t tn . e h a o rn l et i l p 4i f l i o e 'llg ; a l g ; ° : glie t d o l: f :at w . syj i ts' t ( i t h tn a l' u ' d e d i bi l' r e ri e n st e th l l ii a c)u i . d l o t a . t a tl , s t : ci i s ; H a e urd e ,:a r w r , ril l b a e pe r a c ;: i p i : Y e 'n :a: ) t ed ed oft n ti l lh ,:ii on both sides it was admitted that the temple cere monies were weak and beggarly elements, which • had • passed away ; but lie repeated - his call for proof that the • tria s i a ild m d ; eftenAn h s : trp t i d ctibit l e m i : wds t i tif pce my vAs.jai r teoiHie t m l eyi r s c; to? s )p) s t -n ti f otn g hse o co g i u gn e hhaa s r.nti c.r cah v iouri•eiet.tyi churchmen ii(nnLopita-uiiiddee ehurch, they did not 'fir their faith on the *pis - dons of any man, and more especially of a bad Churchman, Church men were not Whatelyites--they were Catholic Chris tians, (Applause.) "We know no rifle of faith,'' .said ' the reverend gentleman emphatically, " but the Bible !" (Tremendous cheers.) Then the question was, were they bound to go the whole length of the Mosaic Law ? No, they all said. Our Saviour told them that his kingdom was not of this world—be said that his kingdom was not to be supported by fighting against the State, — and he himself set the example of what Christians ought to do when accused before the Roman governor of treason, and therefore he (Mr. Baylee) was ready to de clare that the passage quoted by Mr. Miall denied the right to propagate religion by the sword. (Hear, hear.) It never occurred to a churchman to identify his religion with tithes, or church-rates, or endowments to the clergy —his religion was something more—it consisted of the principles taught by our Lord Jesus Christ. (Cheers.) His opponent had spoken on the subject of toleration: there again was manifest ignorance of the Old Testament, for there was toleration even under the Mosaic law. The poor heathen who took up his residence in the land of Judea was not bound to become a Jew, though if he held land he was obliged to pay tithes ; therefore, he said, no man ought to be coerced to become a Christian. (Loud cheers.) • He did not plead for the full adoption of the Levitical code, whilst he did plead for the full truth of the principles of that code. (Continued cheers.) All, therefore, that his opponent had quoted from the prophets respecting voluntary offerings only referred to the temple, and that he (Mr. Baylee) gave up. But they were told that David gave of his own proper goods. (Cheers.) Now when his opponent quoted on that subject, he should have answered this question—Where did David get what he gave from ? Did he acquire the property when a poor shepherd-boy—was it from the fleeces of his flocks ? or was it not from the taxes paid to him by his people ? (Continued applause.) True it was, our blessed Saviour said—" the kingdom of God is within you." There was that within the heart of the true Christian which no act of Parliament could either give or withhold. Now here was a kingdom which he gladly and freely assented could not be supported either by money or compulsion. This was the kingdom which the. ministers of Christ gladly went forth to establish by the preaching of the Gospel to every creature, so as to set up that king dom in the heart of every man ( hear, hear). His oppo nent, however, argued as if that were the only king dom of God. Now, he recollected, when at college - one of the principles of arguing was what was called suppressio veri, the suppression of the truth, and the argument on this subject, which would confine the kingdom of God to the reign of grace in the heart was very like it. He, however, would ask, had not God an outward power, an outward framework as well as an in ward reign in the heart. The rise of the kingdom of GOd upon earth was plainly and positively predicted in Daniel, If c. 44 v., " And in the days of these kings shall the God of Heaven set up a kingdom which shall .never be destroyed : and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces, and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the brass, and clay, the silver, and the gold ; the great God hath made known to the king what shalll come to pass hereafter : and the dream is certain, and the interpreta tion thereof sure." Here it was said that that which was once a stone should become a mountain, and subvert all present kingdoms. Here they had a prediction of the kingdom on earth that was to overrule all other king doms upon earth, and that surely was not the king dom of grace in the heart,. (Hear and cheers.) This kingdom was also referred to by St. Paul, II Timothy, iv. 1, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his Kingdom." And in Revelations in. 21, our blessed Saviour says, speaking of his kingdom—" To him that overcometh will I grant to sit on my throne, as I also overcame, and am sat down with niy Father in his throne." (Hear, hear!) "My dissenting fellow christians," said the speaker, " I beg to remind you that your pleader and your system have fal len into Romish errors. (Confusion, drowned in cheers.) I beg to remind you that the struggle for the separa tion of the regal power from the Church was the great struggle of the Popedom for ages ; that the struggle of the Popes was to do away with the kingly office, and to endeavour to set up the monkish system in stead. (Loud cheers.) I beg to remind you that the looking to the Jewish temple and its ceremonies has been the soul-destroying error of Romanism, and the means of bringing in the sacrifice of the Mass. (Loud cheers and bear, hear.) The reverend gentleman then proceeded to exhibit the contrast between the Abrahamic and the Mosaic dispensations, and the identity of the former with the Christian. He referred to the 7th chapter of John and the 22d verse : " Moses therefore gave yon circumcision, not because it is of Moses but of the fathers." Now if they contrasted that with ,the Galatians, 3rd chapter, they would find that there was not a greater contrast be tween the Christian dispensation and the Jewish, than there was between that and Abrahamic worship. After quoting the 16th and 17th verses of that chapter, he observed—here we have the covenant of God in Christ as the seed of Abraham. We could not say more of the Gentile dispensation ; and, therefore, if the weak and beggarly element of tithes belongs to the one, it also belongs to the other. He therefore argued that the Christian dispensation was not the destruction of, but an addition made to the Abrahamic covenant. He next called attention to the argument of Mr. Miall, in reply to his passages from Scripture respecting the payment of tithes and the union of prince and priest, observing that lie had not argued that they were bound to adopt the system be cause they found it in existence then ; but because it was then approved of by God, it could not now be injustice, as had been attempted to be proved, though that point seemed now to be given up, and therefore he hoped it was a proof that some little progress had been made in the matter. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) He confessed he had looked with some anxiety to see what would be the arguments brought forward with re spect to the prophecies of Ezekiel as to Christian times. He was anxious to see whether modern dissenters agreed with those of former times, and as Archbishop Whateley had been quoted against them, probably he might be allowed to refer to Dr. Gill, the baptist, and Matthew Henry, a non-conformist, though if not agreeable he had no wish to take their opinions as binding on dissenters generally. However he might ask whether they were not authorities, and if they were not, he would give them up, merely remarking that they thought, with Churchmen, that the Prophecies of Ezekiel refer to Christian times, and he believed that the time was speedily coming " when the Lord Jesus should be revealed from heaven taking ven geance on them that know not God, and that obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ." (Hear, hear.) On two or three occasions on Friday evening, he (Mr. Baylee) really thought his opponent had forgotton his side, so applicable did his arguments appear to the sup 7 port of the prinCiple of the unison of church and state. There was an argument about man's unwillingness to receive the Gospel truth and his repugnance to it, and therefore he ( Mr. Baylee) thought it right that a king entrusted with God's treasures should have pity upon them and bestow some of his treasures in behalf of such persons. ( Hear, hear.) Then again if there was to be Parliamentary compulsion to the extent of taking not less than about £8,000,000 out of the taxes of the country for the support, of those perishing of famine, was it not quite as good a reason to tax men for the support of the souls of those who were perishing for lack of knowledge. (Hear, and loud applause.) Ile thought, as it was not considered wrong to compel un willing and pauper landlords to contribute towards the support of their tenantry, surely it could not be wrong to ! compel them to afford something towards the support of that which was of infinitely more importance, namely, their spiritual welfare. (Continued cheering.) As to the observations about. Cyrus, who had compelled his eathen subjects to contribute towards the rebuilding of the Tem ple, surely God's command was the highest authority which could he given to show the justice of an act. ("Hear, hear." and renewed applause.) It was however further argued that. the Jewish dispensation was a childish one, and that we were the wise men of the world. (Loud laughter.) The distinction between the two was illustrated by a child when at school writing large hand, and then running hand when he left school, and therefore it was said we should throw aside the Jewish. It however appeared to him that the large hand and the small were identical, syllable for syllable,—the same in sound, in sense and shape ; and the only difference he could perceive was the clumsiness of the large hand, and the suitability of the small hand. There was, however, another application of ' the principle which would apply. A child went to school to learn principles and truths which were not to be thrown aside when he left, but to govern and regu late his actions in after life. (Applause.) As to the argument about the punishment of idolaters under the Mosaic law, and the demand whether he would there fore argue in favour of persecution, his answer was, he would not- , —be gave cause of non-cent - Inanity. It belonged not to the present system, but was confined to one, nation- and was limited to the - Mosaic. Dispensation ; but he defied any one to prove that even under that there was puiii,hinent to be inflicted for non-attent ance upon the synagogue worship ; and he thought that when Queen Elizabeth in- - flieted punishment upon those who did not attend church, she did wrong, and accordance with the prin.. elides of Rome instead of the Gospel. He would not care to have ten thousand hearers, unless they listened to 'him from conscientious motives. (Loud cheers.) The I Rev. Gentleman then proceeded to show the identity of the Old Testament dispensation with that of the New, and asserted that whatever was the religion supported •by the state, it was the duty of all subjects to contribute to it. He quoted the conduct of our Saviour, who worked a miracle to pay tribute towards heathen Rome, though that was not compulsory on hiM, and the words of St. Paul, to pay tribute to whom tribhte is due. Next he referred to Romans xvi, 23 v., and said even St. Paul made a companion of the treasurer of .a Heathen State, and did not object to receive part. of the protits'he derived from the taxes towards it. There was however a parallel to Ernst us in the conduct of. Daniel, who was the treasurer of a heathen prince, collected his taxes and paid them over, though lie knew a portion would go to support idolatry ; but when asked to become a member of the state church, he did not put his hand to his _pocket and say, "My religion is there." (Hear and cheers.) He then proceeded to show the propriety of state endow ments from the New Testament. That book was a sup plementary one to the Old Testament. It did not bring in a new religion, but as St.. Paul said, " We say none other things than those that Moses and the Prophets did say should cometo pass." After some other arguments from the same scriptures, proving that the Lord. Jesus Christ paid tribute to heathen Rome, though lie knew a portion of the taxes gathered from the provinces would go in support of the heathen worshi that St. P au l sa id, re ferring toa he a th en prince, "Whosoever resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God ;" that St. Peter required obedience to Kings; that the temple service was destroyed and done away with, but that a syua. gogue—not the sacrificing priests, still'existed, was in fact continued in our parish priests, for ho was sae ashamed of the word, He r , ferred to the charge nt Ide against bin), of being what the Jow-aal c lied . a moderate Puseyite, and said he was no suck thing, but, he hoped, a _ good honest-hearted mem ber of the Church of England--(loud cheers}-- one who consistently and conscientiously believed air thy - doctrines of that church as found in the Book of Comm.* Prayer, and ready upon all occasions to defend it. (Con tinued cheers.) As to the canons of the church, though he would defend their principles, and was bound to obey them, yet he was not bound to agree in all of them any more than he was with the acts of Parliament which passed the legislature. (Loud cheers.) The . reverend gentleman concluded with, a powerful appeal on the subject, and resumed his seat amid loud cheer*. from all sides. The Rev. Mr. Por.Locx, at this stage of the proceed— ings, announced that, in a few days, a full and authentic report of the discussion would be 'published in the form of a pamphlet. _ _ Mr. Afraid, again presented himself, and proceeded 1 to notice seriatim the arguments of M r . Baylee, which . he stated, in his opinion, to be no arguments at all_ There might be argument and reason in what the rtst. gentleman had advanced ; but for his part, he (Mr. M.) confessed that he was not clear enough in intellect to perceive it. Perhaps some quick-sighted people pre sent might be capable of doing so—(hear hear, and cheers) ;—but if s o , h e cou ld assure them that it- would not be found in the synagogue. (Loud laughter.) He was astonished to bear the manner in which Mr.. Baylee talked of the synagogue; for he defied him to prove the existence of the synagogue from the Scriptures_ He repudiated the sneer that had been cast upon the ai- - seaters by his reverend opponent, when he talked or their cash being the chief consideration which stimulated them in their exertions against the church connection- In reply to that wrong insinuation, lie would merely re mark, that in this country, when the court was most de based by profligacy, the church polluted by licenciousuess,. and the people degraded under the iron hoof of despotisns there never had been a word said in defence of t?ie church ; but the moment that it was sought to. reform the state of things—to take from the Bishops. their enormous incomes, and apply their revenues to sortie useful purpose, then at once resounded from one end of the land to the other the cry of " Church in Danger." (Cries of `' No, no.") With respect to the challenge which Mr. Baylee had read, he begged leave to say that the Anti-State Church Association was a body formed fin- a specific purpose, having a definite end, aim, and object in view ; and as this challenge broached upon the truth. or error of certain creeds, it being a body formed at the members of all religious creeds, could not entertain it. They sought not to raise oriel creed upon the ruins of another. They merely wished that no religion should he connected with the state, and therefore it would be foreigi to their purpose to enter into any religious disputations whatever. Under these circumstances, he begged leave to decline the offer of his reverend opponent. In the Anti-State Church Association they had as good Pro testants as were to be found anywhere. (Applause.) After thanking his own friends for the kind and patirmt hearing which they had given him, Mr. Miall resumed his seat, loudly applauded by them. The Rev. Mr. BAYLEE again presented himself to close the discussion. On rising, he was met with the most rapturous and enthusiastic demonstrations of applause,. which lasted for several minutes. When silence was re stored, he proceeded to say that he would begin by stating that he gave no challenge whatever to the Anti-State Church Association. They would remember . that on Friday evening last he was called on by Mr. Miall to, prove their right to be regarded in the same light, witk reference to the question of church government, as the Levitical ministers of the old law were. If that subject, therefore, was irrelevant to the discussion, the fault of its introduction was not to be charged against him (Mr.. Baylee), but against his opponent. - (Hear, hear.) He noticed, however, lest it might be assumed hereafter, if he had passed the matter over, that he was unwilling to meet him upon the point. (Cheers.) If a deputation from a public body came down to them, and put such a question on that platform, it was only from that he should get the only answer which could be properly given to it. (Cheers.) He also denied his assertion, when he state& tilt there were as good churchmen members of the Anti- State Church Association as any on that platform, (Cheers.) He could easily excuse the small sallies of petulant wit which his friend indulged in during the course of his last speech. He (Mr. B.) did not pretend to any pecu liar sanctification more than his brethren by whom he was surrounded ; but, nevertheless, he trusted that he was too much a christian to forget himself so far as to descend to. the introduction of any snatches from the popular airs of tunes of the day to gild his eloquence with, or to cast ridicule upon the arguments of his friend, if he conscientiously felt that he o uld not meet theist in the fair spirit of a man, whose only aim in discussing any question was to arrive at the truth. (Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) It might be said by some, that it was in the spirit of ridicule that he (Mr.. B.) had spoken of the Sunday schools; but if any there were were present who thought so, he begged leave, in the most sincere manner, to assure them that they were in error. No ; his observations on that point were intended more as a rebuke than for ridicule. (Hear, hear.). It was very singular that even in the last speech they had just heard from Mr. Miall he should have given theta another strikinginstanceol t hiswantof knowledge of the Old, testament. In that speech he (Mr. B.) was called upon. to prove that any synagogues existed. (Hear, and laughter.). Now, that he could easily do ; and for that purpose Ise would only refer them to the 74th psalm, where they would find it stated in th e Bth verse, " that they have burned up all the synagogues of God in the land." (Hear. hear, hear.) They were only indebted to the new; mode of rationalism for the coldness which men. I possessed when on a public platform, there could be found one who would stand up and deny the. existence of the synagogue. That savoured more of the new systems of German rationalism ' bordering on infidelity, than of the. good old and religious English system of reading the bible.. What, he would ask, was the synagogue but the house isr which the people met to offer up the worship and adora tion of their hearts to the Most High ; and if so, WM4 it' not evident to any truly Christianly rational man that. such a house must be one of the " synagogues of the land." He was sorry that the matter regarding Job had been re newed by Mr. Miall ; and he was still more sorry to find an enlightened gentleman like him attempting to defend a mistake, so palpable that even the youngest child in an ordinary Sabbath school, would be capable of correcting him upon it. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) How, he would again ask, could that be Mosaic, which belonged to Job's time ? Job was not a Jew, and therefore his system could not have been Jelish. The reverend gentleman then proceeded to recapitulate the, principal points of his arguments in the preceding ; speeches ; after which, he said that he would assert again and again, that all the principles contained in • the Mosaic dispensation were but principles ; and that ; they were not at liberty to exercise any power over their fellow-men except what God had given them : and if they found in the Mosaic dispensation the non-. persecuting principle as fully developed as it is under the Christian, and if he found that liberty of conscience, was repeated, he could see no reason why fault could be found with it. (Hear, hear.) For his own part, he was prepared to assert the same liberty of conscience now, that the Mosaic dispensation did then. (Cheers.) If they found that the Jew—the circumcised Jew—was compelled to be a Jew, he would say that when God commanded it to be so, who dare oppose his puny will to that dread command. (Loud cheers.) If a similar command was promulgated by the Lord of Hosts at the present time, it would vindicate what same aright term persecution, if it had the authority of God.. They were not bound to admit all that belonged to Levitical legislation, whilst they were bound to vindicate all that was good, high, noble, and holy in the system, as delivered by the Creator of the universe to the prophets.: Mr:Miall had referred, amongs t o th er mat t ers which were beside the argument of the question, to English history„, at a period when there was despotism in the kingdom and corruption in the court. On that subject he would just ask Mr. Miall if, taking English history for their guide, he would meet him to discuss that point. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) He would ask what good had ever volun taryism done for the people, the kingdom, or the Church of Christ ? (Hear, hear, and cries of "Nothing." They had had a trial of it now for three hundred years, asull lie (Mr. B.) was at a loss to discern the good it had ever affected (" Hear, hear," and cheers., If he had the op portunity afforded him he would expose the error of a system whose greatest good during ..the three hundred years of its existence was to fill the land with Unitarian ism and infidelity, and such . other sects, the doc trines of which merged too closely on broad and undis guised infidelity to be regarded with ranch respect by any Christian man. (" hear, hear," and cheers.) In order to find out the working of the system they needed not leave th e i r own t own . (H ear , H e would ask. them to reflect on the fact, that in Liverpool, whenever a voluntary chapel was pulled down,. for the purpose of being rebuilt it never was again erected in a poor part of the town : in fact,. thesystem did not seem to be inclined to suit itself to the spiritual wants of the poor. (Cheers.) 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