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inclinations, but would place hint where his services would be more available. The Mayon said the council bad heard both sides, and they, perhaps, would come to a decision whether they would ex- ruse Mr. Lawrence or not. The Council then, by a large majority, decided that• Mr. Law rence should serve. Mr. Councillor LETGIi obj coed to be on the watch commit tee, because he was on the paving, and sewerage committee, and be was afraid the duties of the two would clash. Mr. Councillor %VA E.NISLEY said it was on the contrary very desirable to have on the watch committee a member who was also on the paving committee. Mr. Councillor It eetseoNs o said he did not like to speak of parties in that council-room, but a great deal had been said by the opposite party respecting the management of the police, and he thought that the conservatives s hould themselves have a practical proof of that management by being placedon the com mittee. Mr. Councillor SHAND said he was very haptiy to devote all his spare time to the committee, but he was afraid that he would be principally engaged with his duties as churchwarden, so as to prevent him giving that attendance which was necessary. Mr. Councillor SHAND was elected with this proviso. Mr. Councillor Brune also begged to have his name with drawn. His various avocations in life would prevent his at tending to the duties, of which also he was thoroughly ignorant. Mr. Councillor IletTisisorse said that was the most .extiaor clinary objection he had heard. Members who had volunteered to come into the council ought not to urge that their private business was to interfere with their publie duties. "Mr. Councillor Blear said he had no ambition to come into the council. If it was the will of the council that he should be compelled to do the duties of this appointment—he must. The MAYOR said that it was the law that all who; Caine into that room must take a part of the business of the town. Mr. Alderman EVANS said he could not help observing that' this was not a very favourable specimen of the new members. A laugh.) If they went by the example of the old members, they would find that every one of them had made his private :baseless subordinete. They had made great sacrifices of time, and all of them had lost money, from the very nature of this. And now, Mr. Bibby, and other members, were declaring their inability to attend, and their incompetency, and still they would 'come into that council. Mr. Bibby Wes then elected. Mr. Alderman linelesost then moved, the whole of the mem bers haeing been elected seriatim, that the watch coinmittee should be a cemtuittee fur the lighting and cleansing of the all borough, and also for the lighting of the new borough, whiCh was seconded by Mr. Councitler Currie, and adopted COuncillor Chas. LAWRENCE said that he should certainly now, when elected on this committee, endeavour to do his doh. lApplause.) Atter the remarks made by Mr. Evaes mot Mr. Itaitrimn e , he could not but take upon himself to semi, that the 'resolutions of the meeting on Monday were so much at variative with the opening of Mr. RobinsOn's speech and the proceedings of that d my, that it was impossible for the council not to be aware that they should wish to decline serving, after the manner in which they had been treated on Alonday. P'INA NCE COMMITTER. Mr. Councillor Botermes in pursu a n ce o f a not i ce o f mot i on. rose to propose the appointment of the finance committee. He said he need not dwell on the great imnortance of that body.— In the formation of the list which he should have the honour to submit to them, two principles had been acted upon. The first 'was, to give the preference to those whose attendance on the last committee had been mast frequent and regular, and the second was, to put on the committee so many of their new mem bers as would be a fair proportion to represent the two parties into wb'ch the town was divided. lie should first re a d the tames of these whose attendance had been most frequent— Messrs. Birch, Bolton, Brown, J. Holmes, and H. Lawrence. 'The other members' wham he siiotild propose were Messrs, Maxwell, M'Gregor, 'l'. Smith, Stuart, Currie, L. Heyworth, Bibby, Blackburn.' Won, and Leigh. Mr. Councillor LEIGH demurred to the appointment. •Mr. Councilllor Breen begged to move Mr. Shand as an amendment, which called forth a remark from Mr. Evans —that if there were are one among them who could afford to gm.: u p a portion of his time, it was surely the richest man in Liverpool, Mr. Councitlor BIRCH then withdrew his amendment, and the whole of the abovementioned members were elected. IMPROVEMENT CoMMITTEE. Mr. Councillor HOPE ruse in pursuance of a notice to move the appointment of the improvement committee. He said there was no committee which was of more importance in its results to the town than this. As last year their numbers were not to extend beyond nine, they intended that those indiVideals who had been most regular in their attendance shmild stand first on the list this year; while they stemuld dispense with the services of those two who had been most frequently absent; though in doing so, they made no complaint against those individuals, whose services, on the contrary, they regretted to lose. The present Mayor was also taken off the list, as he would be a member of the committee ex officio. The first name which ap peared was that. of their valued ex Mayor, Mr. W. W. Currie. The names or the four who had most frequently attended were Messrs. H. Holmes, Barclay, Hope, and Hereby. The others proposed were Messrs. Booth, Shand, Jones, and 'Platt. The above names were severally put, and the parties appointed. TOWN ObES COMMITTEE. COuheillol LAWRENCE HEY WORTH rose for the purpose of naming the persons to be members of this committee, as fol lows:—Alessrs. Platt, Birch, Brown. James Heyworth, Leas thoni, and Itainsden. The several names were put, and the parties elected. "Mr. Councillor JAMES HEYWORTH said, it had been stated that gentlemen who had volunteered their services, and came into that council, acted with a bad grace in declining the duties which necessarily devolved on such an appointment. He was one of those who did not solicit the honour of coming into the council; and, therefore, the argument could not, with any great force, come against himself. lint though he stood in rather an unusual situation, he was perfectly aware that, having accepted that appointment to which his constituents had elected him, he, must take a share in the duties of the council ; and he should not shrink from lending his services to this or any other com mittee, to any extent that his services would in any degree be „ useful. But he 'hoped the multiplication of his duties would not ' be to such an extent as to dilute in a great degree the little time, and talents, and energy l i e h a d t o d evo t e t o t h em. -( H ear. There was one observation he had to state, that there seemed to be that day a singular liberality in the infusion of some of the new members into the honourable position of taking part in the duties of committees. This had not been exactly the principle laid down on Monday last, in regard to the Dock Committee. If he could have seen the same spirit displayed on that occasion, he would have deemed it as aleappy omen of the spirit of unanimity with which this council w a s ac t ua t e d— a spirit which might - have made it, not only very pleasant to each member, but might also have made their common, appointment exceedingly beneficial to the town. "Mr. Councilhir RATA:BONE and Mr. Alderman EVANS both started up the same moment. The . 111 A yon, - however, called on Mr. Alderman EVANS. He said, Mr. fleyworth had again alluded to the subject of the Dock Committee election, by re ferring to it as an example of party feeling in thecouncil, which has the direction and choice of that committee. He begged he might have the attention of the MAYOR, .without the light of whose countenance he could nut get on. It happened on that sluestion that an amendment had been moved on his name; although he expected an amendment to be moved on other names, it never once occurred to him that it would be moved on his name. It created in his mind some little difficulty—it raised a point of delicary—whether or not he could get up, and resist an amendment which went to substitute another person for him self,. He referred to a friend at hand, in whose opinion awl Judgment he had the greatest confidence; and he was of °Pinion that he had better not refer to it ; and that was the reason that he had lest that great opportunity of getting up, in order to show the nature of the trust they were going to imp ose upon Arlin, and to warn the council of what injury might be done by party power, if they were elected into this, committee by co rn _ bluing with others. After they had once elected them, they evoii!d not be amenable to that council. He would have told them that one of them, influencing others, might have combined with the enemies of the council, who, whilst representing that council, as they were at the time—the eery chairman that coil ducted the opposition of the Dock 'l'rust against them, u l t a suiu was, c a l l " that very moment, representing. that opposition j as Mr. Selomon was in care of the Town-ball,and held elle gianee to the corporate estate. lie used medical language— there was a solution of continuity. He would say, witness what he had done in getting the whole conversion ot\ a the corporate duce?orporate estate. What had the chairman of the. Dock Alter having aided in making up a bill excluding the corpora tion from all participation in the Dock Trust--(l2e trietitly) . —he had the h-ads of the bill there, exclu d ing e ' l i ( t . . u i e n: freM tbas---and adding a clause which many might deem .1 laced not to admit a member of the council—that the council were not to be deemed qualified fur superintending Pca,k, Trust. That was the only boon that was inteiidedttohlete con ceded to them! But the corporate interest in the corporate property was to be entirely iltspensed with. That gentleman, t Air: Lawrence) ought either to have abandoned hi: pos', or he ought to have considered himself in honour bonnd to metn egin tee c eeierate interest. The heads of that bill had been out a whale week before ever the corporation gut to look at then. They wer e handed to every one, excepting the council, who might have been supposed to have an interest in them. There was au indecency in the thing. After that, the idea was given up that they could exclude the council, and the trust agreed to giv e theta a meetiug—not a mei:ling of one legally ackitowledged body with another — (veheincutly)—they could not get it. The corporation of Liverpool were deuied a meet ing wi h the dock committee of inauagetnent —except with gen tlemen coining &men a body that had no legal existence what 7 ever. Then. Observe, the effect of this. These gentleineu were appointed by the committee of management in gild' a manlier that they could never have come iuto the committee-room, without undergoing the seusationthat they Here collie there to do something to oppose the corporate members. Well, they Caine there. Afterwards they acquainted Mr. Lawrence, the chairman of the commiteee e lhat they had had the. first legal advice—(the Attorney-General and others)—and then they were given to understand (what was a new knit altogether) they were afterwards told by Mr. Lawrence, " We me here be tween you and the rate-payers." Actually! between the cor poration who had named them, and the rate-payers. They. were. nobody. They were not incorporated. They were not a body', to put in the other scale, in order to weigh down the cor poration, But this was their position—they wanted au umpire to decide between what was nut equal. The one who was ap pointed actually to serve the dock power and influence was notnicated as ae,ainendinent to are. He met him linked with the enemies of municipal reform, in the corridors of the House of 'Commons, which he had tilled with attorneys and hostile wit nesses. lie found be had actually laid the war. lie had been speaking of facts. He would now add his.opinion, that, if Mr. Lawrence had acted as he ought to heve done, they should have had no trouble. ; If he had been a mere umpire, they should have had no law-suit. They would have saved for the corporation 1.:3,01X1ar £l,OOO, and the same sum fur the dock trust. He deelared that Mr. Lawience was the smile cause of the loss of that money. tie thought it would have been better if his name hmsd not been noticed; because it would have lommked as if the council had acted in a party spirit. But it was his object to show that the council could not have dune mitheiwise—thet it was exceedingly improbable and impossible that they could en tertain a proposition that they might have a majority on the conservative side. Ile weuld put it to them—could they nomi nate. a gentleman who had attempted to destroy the influence of. the corporation ? if they had done su—if they had nomi nated him—what would have been the iesult? Why th e y would have stultified themselves, if they had authorised and sanctioned, and approved of all his conduct. Could anything be more monstrous than this, if even the council was conserva tive? There were three matters which surprised him. He had tie not the slightest personal antipathy to Al r. Lawrence; and lie Bbelieved also that his private character was unimpeachable, ut i n his publi •character lie thought there was ample ground em . duck, committee. wine mote so than in his conduct on,the M r. T he 14AWRENCE then Lose — Mr. AldermenTre'ed• longer. vANS said he would only speak one word The M a vow said NIT- II he could not e yworth had prov o k e d th e war, an d Mr. Alderman kvsNs therm n r• ow‘hn,tuted.—Alr. Lawrence could beios t ae,mim4uriet_i i l t h e a ' r t i ePsronvi.;k;question , he had stated. Look at wherein be sneers at 'us, and glorie s ip ins " he . is ri g ht." t— our power. atteruet to shackle Mr. Councillor COG LAN here rose. He regretted that the subject had been brought forward ; hilt Mr. Evans had been in a great degree provoked by the comments of Mr. Heyworth, accusing that council of partisanship in rejecting gentlemen f,r some committees, and of extreme liberality in choosing them f o r others. He regretted it because the subject was not connected with the question before the council. That day had been de creed for much OEI,I- business—they had much better not waste two or three hours in discussing the merits of the gentlemen , forming the dock committee. The council were or were not competent to choose the members. (t was their duty to 'bow to ~ the decision of the majority who had decided the question, he thought it did not come with a good grace to accuse the majo rity of that council with illiberality. They might think a gen tleman not so fitted to serve in one situation as another. Sothe were fitted for one department and not for auirther. They might think Mr. Heyworth had the eyes of an Argos, and was fitted for the watch committee, but (hey might nut think him fitted for the dock committee. Still they were there ; they were the individuals to decide, and whether correctly or not they had the power, and he trusted they should always exercise it in a fair and impartial manner. He thought they ought not to be called in question because they chose this gentleman or the other. • Mr. Councillor C. LAWRENCE said he would not enter there into a defence of his conduct. He should not have interfered at all had not a remark iu.the introduction of Mr. Rathbone's speech of Monday stated, that they had selected the members of the committee for their political views. (Mr. Itathbone, " No, no," and cries of " Yes, yes.") He would not trouble them with the defence of his conduct as a member of the dock committee. He was satisfied that he had done what was right. Mr. Councillor J. HEYWORTH here rose, but! was assailed with loud cries of "spoke, chair, spoke." The MAYOR said it was a rule that nagentleman should speak twice except in explanation. Mr. Councillor J. HEY WORTH said he was perfectly aware of that ; he . h.id been reminded of it on Monday by the late Mayor. He thought itonly due to himself that he should say be hail in-. stituted no comparison betweew - Mr. Lawrence or any other member of the committee who had been appointed He did net even object to the list of those members who were sent into the dock cenamitlee. He merely spoke of the great disparity which existed between the lists of members elected on committees that day and on Monday. Mr. Alderman licercsorr rose to order. Mr. Ileyworth's speech was anything but an explanation. • The MAYOR II night it was an explanation of some particu lar point. Mr. Councillor J. HEY WORTH said he merely drew a compa rison between th e li s t s of committee-men that day and on Mon day. He said nothing about Air. Lawrence; he had his cha racter in his own keeping. 'Mr. Councillor RATHBV,;,- E rose amidst great confusion, and, cries of "spoke, spoke." lie said be should not have ad dressed them. but as an ass •ition had been made which hal been put into his mouth, ahich,he had never uttered, he should beg to explain. When he' introduced the list of the dock coot nuttee, he expressly. stated that those had been chosen who would hold the supremacy of the town cf Liverpool in the ad ministration of their own affairs, especially in reference to the dick estate. There was ne reference to party whatever. He only wished to give the words—let gentlemen make what use of it they chose. (On referring to our reporter's sltort-hand notes, of what Mr. Rat hbone did say, the words he uttered were—" 1 give in the list of names selected too) down as dock committee. omen—of course following the proceeding laid down by the . Town-clerk, that each must be ballotted for; and if any gentle-. man objects to the names that are put down, it is at his option to do so; I Must state that this selection of names has been made with reference to those who will maintain the supremacy of the town of Liverpool in the management of their own affairs.") MARKET COMMITTEE. Councillor JORDAN proposed that the following gentle men torm the above committee Messrs. H. Holmes, Dun eau, Evans, Thornhill, Bibby, Freme, and Jordan. Agreed . to_ BY-LAW COMMITTRB Mr. Alderman BROWN proposed that the names of Messrs. Mason and Houghton, be added to those of the old commit - - tee—the committee to consist of Messrs. Brown, O. Hey wqrth, Birch, Houghton, Mason, Duncan, and Numeral. Agr,ed to. TOWN-HALL 'ESTABLISHMENT COMMITTEE. The Town-clerk read the first re - solutions of the Council relative to the adowance to the Mayor, and the mode of its dis pos:!l. • Mr. Councillor fiswnoN proposed that the following gentle men should compose the committee—Messrs. Currie, Bonn, G. Holt, Hamlin), and Houghton. Mr. Councillor John floi.siss - tnoved that the Mayor have an allowance of £2oooas had before been voted, which was seconded b' Mr. A Ideriitau Bartday. 'Mr. Councillor Al thought it was a great deal too much, but as he supposed he should stand alone in the opinion, he would not found any motion on it. Mr. Councillor J AMES LAWRENCE an objection had been made that the sum named was too much. He conceived that taking into consideration the magnificence of the Town of Lives pool, and the dignity and hospitality which the Mayor had to support, that it was not too much, and Lie was quite favourable to'it. EDUCTION COMMITTEE. Mr. Councillor RATHBONE rose, in pursuance of a notice, to tnovk the appointment of the Education Committee. In so doing he begged to offer a few remarks. He de4ly regretted that the political warfare shotild have been conducted on the education of the people. He thought it was a subject on which there should not have been any political feeling whatever, where the welfare, both present and tuture, of the poorer portion of the people is concerned He thought they should, on such a sub ject as that, throw aside all political feelings, and, most of all, throw aside all misrepresentation and falsehood. He was pre p tre:l to state that the protestant children in these schools would be made as good churchmen as in any school in Liverpool, he (lid not care where it was. He was prepared to st a te, al so , th a t these children would b e as we ll read in the bible, that book whiCh it had•been-asserted, over and over again—(with great vehe mence)—falsely asserted, be must say,—knowingly, falsely asserted—(ciapping his hands with extraordinary vehemence) — bad been excluded from those schools—as any children in Liverpool. It was their wish in this election to have put some tories . on the school committee, wishing that they should know something on that subject on which they had said so much, and be prepated to offer some opinion upon it. If the system was wrong, it was high time it should be made right. Let those who spoke on the *collect know of what they spoke. . Led those who bad assert e d that th e Bibl e was not in the school, as honest men, and they called upon them as Christians, come and see before they tirade such assertions. He had a right to call on them, as honest men, and as people professing the meek precepts of the christian religion, to do so. Ile would not take up their time; be had spoken warmly on the subject because lie felt earnestly. It was to him no political question, and it never should b e; but when he saw children going about barefooted and ragged, nay worse, he must state, of moral de ,,eradation, brought into the police-office, he felt most anxious that they should be saved horn that degradation. Ile had no hesitation in avowing himself a Unitarian dissenter; but he did, at the same time, say, and he had the confirmation of Mr. Charles Horsfall, who he was sorry was not present to bear hit out, that he had never brought his sectarian principles into that school. So far from that, when they could not get clergy men to perform that duty which they ought to perform,—when only one gentleman of the church of England had attended, he had himself heard the children the catechism of the church of England, and, where he understood it, endeavoured to explain it in the sense of the clergy, and in the reading of the Bible also. Why ? Because the teachers of th epcople, who ought to have been there, were not at their posts. Ile should take the liberty of replying to any thing that might be said in . the conned, and c onc l u ,l e s i mply b y proposing a list of names, which list had no reference whatever to party. Mr. Re TriuoNa then read over a list of names which will be found below. Mr. Councillor JANIRS lIRYWORTH said, from what had fallen from Mr. Rathbuise, that gentlemaia made it appear that because difference of opinion existed as to the mode of educe tien, that should go to prove that it was made a political ques tioo. He (Mr. Heyworth) thought that an immense difference might exist on su c h a su bj ect, without putting a political con struction on it. Alth oug h M r. Itathbone might differ very Widely in opinion with another party, he thought that he was I not entitled to claim any peculiar or exclusive credit on account ~f his f ee li ngs for the education of the poor. He (Mr. Hey worth) thought a no bl e man i festat i on had lately been made of the feeling which had animated those of a contrary opinion to Mr. Rathbone, in the two noble and splendid monuments that were in the course of erection. As to the Bible in the schools, no he wars fr°l t r' o % b . ehe bad b een given to understand that the Bible—he meant the lieved the himd ch a n e ot u h n in d g er iv s a e s ve to re be pe ta n k a e lt n i , es a , n i d i. to which scriptures was not used during th e s chool h ours . He thought th at selections front the scriptures were not calcu lated to du that good which could be done by the whole unmu tilated word of God. Ile did not wish to make this a political question. Ile w;slted to know whether the commandments that th t e % l. - ? used t c li n e un s u c l a h n o d o 1 4 5 1 . , n W t e w s h t ie % second romin were in the versh: l n ietit and ordained that they should not fall into the sin of idolatry ? If that commandment was not there, it at once invalidated in his mind the goodness of their extracts. Mr. Councillor Braces said he was anxious to propose a mo " tion as an amendment on Mr. It at tibone's motion. Hi s motion went to the extent that the seheols s h ou ld b e discon tlitrlniiiert4l),poasnidn g t hseuproperty motion n d olt;.e_(Crie s of no, no.") could assur e th em t h at he was not insensible to. its very great importance, and t o th e opposition it would probably meet with; and be could add‘ moreover, that it would be mush more pleasant to hint to have supported some other member in the council, than to bring for ward so decided a measure as that. lie hoped that the measure was not intended in the slightest degree to cast any imputation on the past proceedings of the Education Committee: and he hoped also it would .not be. supposed to east any imputation on the conduct of those parties be whom those proceedings had beets uniformly advocated. Ilia wish was simply nut to give offence to men; but, if p os sible, by a timely—a temperate— and above all, a de c id e d c o urse, tit do away with those unhappy causes of dissatisfacti o n, by which the public mind had the been vexed and term Pa" ented throughout the greater sent year. It h a d so h a p pene d, o u this question, never yet had an opportunity o f g iving either a _s7 ote or mu that haed opinion. When t h e di scuss i on too k p l ace in which his friend Mr. Blackburn took so distinguished a part—(hear), he was absent from town ; but if he lisid been present on that occasion, he,ahould have given hint his support,, because he-did feel, un der the difficulties of the case, that it was the only reasonable course which the council could adopt. He had always been astonished -that any man could justify the principle, that the corporation property, contributed by the public, could be appro priated to any one sect in preference to another.—(Loud cries of." hear.") Ile declared that he himself could never bring his mind to sanction the appropriation of such funds even to benefit the church of which he was a member.—He would say also that he did think that if the opinions of the calm and-con siderate part of the community could be fairly ascertained — whether consisting of Whist or Tory—Churchman or Dissenter —he did believe that that ()pinion would go to this extent—that the public money could not he used fur the benefit-of any party. Now, if this were the accurate conclusion, he would ask, what blame could possibly attach to the Education Committee? In deed, were n their d uty ? W ere t h ey not act i ng strictly accordancedoiig -with the ack now l e d ge d ru l e o f j ust i ce. in i lhey not applying that principle to the public schools?—(Hear.) And whether the mode be judicious or otherwise—or whether, when it was found to inflict much disquietude and anxiety on the pub lic mind—whether it was very wise or discreet to persevere or not —was a question on which the best of men might divide. If it had been possible to-have introduced into the schools a sys tem of what might be termed secular education, by which the children might have. been taught to read and write, and have been grounded in the elements of plain and useful knowlenee, leaving them to receive their religious, impression s from their own parents and their own ministers of religion, then he thought they should have attained the object So much desired, and have escaped the present consequences that had resulted. But they were perfectly aware that to such a scheme of education the pJblic mind had been uniformly opposed. The whole tide of popular feeling seemed to have set ttgaitist any scheme of edu cation but what was grounded on a religious Foundation. That being the case, the committee being so surroundedwith. efimp ii, cited difficulties. what possible blame could Attach' to the m , they had availed themselves of the only expedient that remaitsed . • . —t o ripen the schools to all denomidations, and combine reli- pious - iustructiou with secular, 48' the best and the only way THE LIVERPOOL, STANDARD which was available?? Whether available or not, this they must admit, that, having Leea tried, it had proved to be a failure, —(loud cries of " No, no,"—that was his firm opinion —and, en tertaining that opinion;he did think that the hest course they could purstie wits to abandon the schoids altogether. '[he repugnance with which one part of-the christian community received in struction through the medium of mere selections from the Bible, and the objections which the other part felt when the whole Bible was placed in their hands—these two coi,,bioed circum stances had had a practical effect in converting the sch:,ols into little other than sectarian places of education ; and they all knew that that was the very principle they had all set out to avoid. He, therefor e , sa id th a t f or the sake of consistency, fur the sake only of carrying out their own principles, they were bound to do away with the schools altogether. There was a duty—a higher obligation than mere attachment to principle — they were there bound to concede everything to the feeling of the public, and that feeling had been clearly ascertained. T hey would give him leave to ask, after the experience of the late election, whether they were not bound to admit that, on this subject, the opinion of the public had been declared against them? (Loud and conflicting cries of "Yes, no, yes, no.") It was always the part of wise men, to open their eyes to their own affairs; and it was still more the part of good men, to correct their errors when they were discovered. Let them show, by a generous avowal of their mistake, and a determination to amend, , that both as wise men and as good men, they were anxious to do their dutv,,to the public, and thus secure the approbation of their own 'fiearts. He had now the satisfaction of moving;as an amendment, "That it be an instruction to the finance com mittee to sell the schools on leases of 75 years, in such manner as they deem hest;—that they be sold in two lots, either for an annual pay ment or for a sum laid down ; — an d th a t the same b e made with a stipulation that the same be used as schools for, the poor." [The speech df Mr. Birch appeared to create a great sensation in the council room.! Mr. Councillor JOHN CROPPER in seconding the motion, said he was not influenced by party motives, as his opinions upon the subject were expressed before it became a party question. The council and committee would be continually composed of men of different opinions, both as regarded politics and religion. The care of these schools was incompatible with the duties of the council. If at one time the schools were Managed satisfactorily, there was no guarantee that they should continue so; besides which, some of those who did not approve of them were obliged to pay towards them. As a con scientious dissenter, he objected t o this. He had another objection— that it was an illegal , appropriation of the corporate funds; they had no right, unless they had a surplus, to pay towards their support out of the corporate funds. Mr. Councillor L. HEYWORTH approved of what bad fallen from Mr. Birch, and it therefore became necessary for hint to account for his name standing on the committee. No schools could have been established on principles of greater justice than these. (I - leap, hear.) These extracts were the best p dicy that could have been adopted to fulfil the wishes of all parties, especially when it was considered that no person could sit down and read the Bible to his children from beginning to end. In his opinion the amendment was " a most righteous one," and one which they were compelled by the existing state of society to adopt. The best plan was to dispose of these schools. They would then be maintained on that principle which had been acknowledged by many to lie the best, namely, the voluntary principle. The voluntary principle was that which had been taught by ,the Deity himself, under the Mosaic dispensation. With regard to the odium which had been cast on the members of the ediniation committee, he should glory in being the object of odium for such a cause. Mr. Councillor W. W. Cuentz hoped that the Councillor for the Castle-street Ward, would postpone his motion, as they were perfectly unprepared to deal with the question. Though it was not necessary at a quarterly meeting to give notice of a motion, yet as they could nut deal at once with a proposition of such moment, he (Mr. Currie) trusted that the propounder -of it would let them have time to give the matter due consider ation. -He should be prepared to go the fullest . length in sup port of what the Corporation had done, at the 'same time he would not shut his e‘es to much which was too true in Mr. Birch's statement, and which he deeply lamented. He trusted he should never see the Corporation depart from their proud eminence at the head of the education of the town. It was quite sufficient for them to possess the pleasing conscious ness of having performed their duty unmindful of the oppro brium which had been heaped upon them. He repeated, that he hoped they would not be called upon to proceed in the mat ter that day, but would be allowed to give the subject the con sideration which its vast importance demanded. Mr. Councillor Bitten at once assented to the postponetnent of his motion. And, after some conversation, it was agreed that the discussion should take place on that day (Wednesday) fort night. Mr. Councillor RATHBONE 810(1 that the member fur Everton had asked him if the bible were read during the school hours ? Yes. It was read fur one hour during school-hours? The se lections were read as lessons at all other limes. If gentlemen would look to the good of the town, these schools would go on well, and in time be an honour to it. He did not believe that public opinion was against them. He would not give way to the cry which had been raised against them. He would entreat his friends, who were of the reform interest, not to yield like cravens to popular prejudices. He did not mean to throw any sneer on any friend, especially his friend Mr. Currie; but he did think when they bore in mind that popular clamour was made ageing' them, they ought to stand firm to the principles they professed. The following gentlemen were then.pioposed as the commit tee:—Messrs. Blackburn, Wahnsl e y, H. Horuby, - Hope, Las sell, Benn, itawdon, Bulley, Barclay, T. Smith, L. - Heyworth ; Rainsden, and Rathbone. GAOL COMMITTEE. On the motion of Al r. Robinson, it was resolved that the ma gistrates of the borough should constitute the gaol committee. GARDEN COMMITTER. The follawiug members were appointed to be the garden com mittee :—Messrs. E. Smith, Morecroft, J. Smith, Bright, Black burn, and Jordan. CHURCH ENDOWMENT COMMITTEE. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN moved that the same individuals who had formerly composed this Committee be re-appointed. Mr. Councillor JAMES HEY WORTH asked if any report had yet been made , from that Committee ? The ' 'OWN OLERK.—Na. Mr. €ouncillor J. HEY woitTH.—" Have the other Commit tees made regular reports ?" The TOW N CLERIC.—" Yes." Mr. Councillor J. HEYWORTH.—" May I then ask why this Committee has not pursued the same course as other Commit tees?" Mr. Councillor BOLTON said, this Committee was engaged in the prosecution of a law-suit, which was not in a situation to be reported on. It would be absurd in them to repeat circumstan ces which would lay their case open to their opponents. There was no remissness in the Committee. Mr. Councillor BLACKBURN said, the Council would surely al-, low that the Committee themselves were the best judges when to report. Mr. Councillor JAMES HEYWORTH rose in explanation. It seemed to him that he was charged with censuring; he rose for, information and was perfectly satisfied. Mr. Councillor CHARLES LAWRENCE said, he objected alto gether to the appointment of that Committee. As one of the old Council he felt bound to take the sense of the present one as to the conduct of that Committee. The endowment was made in consequence of a communication with his Majesty's Government. They had thought that • they were doing what was required. The law required simply that the matter should have been brought before the privy council for them to decide whether they had acted right or wrong. The Committee had acted otherwise, and it had not done its duty. These were his thoughts. They ought not to look upon this as a party ques tion, but they ought to have gone to the body that was autho rised to decide between them. A large body of the clergy was thost unpleasantly situated, and all through the acts of this Committee. He should move,—that the day fixed by the Act of Parliament, for calling in question any of the acts of the last Council having elapsed, the Committee had not acted pro perly, and that, therefore, it should nut be re-appointed. Mr. Councillor J. N. WOOD begged to second that. He said he did not know that the corporation had anything to du with the quest ion, further than after the injunction had been dissolved the present corporation were made defendants. But what had they to do with the church endowment question ? Mr. CURRIR—A gleat deal too much, I am sorry to say. Have not Mr. Jevons and Mr. Bolton sworn that the) l alone. were relators on this occasion ? Mr. BOLTON —No ; I never swore at all. Mr. Woon resumed—Does not my Lord Langdale, in giving his judgment, state, that the present corporation have nothing whatever to do with the question? Does not his Majesty' s Attorney-General state, that he appeared in court entirely for the relators and the relators alone ? And, therefore, 1 don't see why we should have anything to do with this question : and, in fact, from the evidence of the Court of Law, Messrs. Bolton and Jevons are the litigating parties; the town-council are not litigating the question—they alone are. And I should like to know how this seat of £254 19s. sd. came to be paid; whether •itis a legal payment or not. If Messrs. Bolton and Jevons are relators alone, what have the corporation.to do with paying this sum to Messrs. Parkes and Preston. If the corporation had required copies of the information, the odd £4 I9s. sd. would have been quite sufficient for that expense. And, I should like also to know, what further sum is to be expended: £251 19s. sd. has already been expended—which, 1 contend is illegal. I• have been told that a very large sum was further to be expend. ed. I believe that about a month or two ago, a letter was sent to Mr. Town-clerk, by the late Mr. Foster, or by Messrs. Foster and Lloyd, stating that in order to avoid all intermediate ex pences, they suggested the plan of the question going before the House of Lords at once. Whether that had been douse or nut, I do nut know; but I should like the Town-clerk to read that letter, and what answer was made from the endowment- committee to that letter. I suppose the money which had been spent, has been for the Solicitor-general —one hundred guineas fora retaining fee, and twenty guineas with his brief. - . • The Msvon, without suggesting What your presumptions will h e , t he T own Clerk w i ll be ready - to answer your question s as soon as you ate seate d . Y ou have asked a great many question s and we must not hear your suppositions. ins T tr b i l' c i ti . o ci , 7x t el.k: a K said, the Committee 'were appointed with take the necessary measures as to the recovery of a sum or s • 6 been legally pl.i • it was or out EUs'°"J' at least subject to the question, whether Mittee took the ' h e' the money of this Corporation, and had or had not lin the hands of certain trustees. The crim advice that the country affords; and when I say that that ad e v s i t e I think I shall be boernil o c u lu t. cl es T l i i , i e s l questionaje str v, s . a a s t toonr one eig which, e ral,Un der any c uctaustanc t z t r i e i r ire d to be settled ; fur I should like to know from any who may take a part adverse to .the course of the corumittieluo question, how the adVowsons auidteilitivutrittgisi, with reference to that attached to them could be fixed, as to their amount, i t , ,e q , uestion was settled, or could be disposed of to advantage to would be s ' corporate estate. How granted without could they have gone to market, unde'rr ow sei s i i iction of the eeelesiastical commissioners, with these ath e • being piepared to say whether a stipend But independently of that point, a great question e i r i s e t N e , d o a u s o t i t:i the.legaltty of the instrument, and wheth er the to not to be recovered back to the corporate estate; and the g 1 majority of the opinions, amounting t o 5 to I, were in favour o f it s being recovered back. As to those opinions,it would have been •the height of indiscretion fur gentleinen haYing to meet their adversaries in court, t o h ave submitted their opinious to this counc il, or to any public body. Th e com mi ttee discretion. Bef ore May, tli`e-,einninittee found the question t hus circums tanced — a law -shit exi s t e d, nut Lad t a powerright to. to expect that the comma c ommitted to them suffi cuse their terminated by any injunction, or the appreh ens i on of any in junction—but a law-suit calculated to dispose of this question as to the church endewment. Under the best advice that the committee could procure, they came to the conclusioh, tnat their course was to let, that law-suit go on; and iu so doing they Were governed, no t only by its being the most sunimarY, but the most economical, end the hest calculated in its nature for having a solemn determination of the question. I should think .that any person who ha s only had som e very slight notion of Chancery proceedings, will appreciate the directness of that course of the committee. Should they file a , bill, or petitioh for it .to stand by, or wait till the cause brought ' on by the relators (Mine before the present commit ; there is no question at ail hut•that the council did that which t h ey h ad a right to do,. actatig,under this advice. The question aCcordingly wept on. carried on by the relators, and no doubt on the invi tation or that committee, and under circumstauces w hi f li ent i t l e d the relatoi sto the indemnity of the council, as will fully apPear ; acid it vdll then appear that this payment was made under TUESDAY MORNING. NOVEMBER 8, 1836. Although we cannot but rejoice at the prompt suppres sion of the late insurrectionary attempts in France, yet connecting them with a train of events that has passed before our eyes during the last thirty years, we perceive in them the remains of a revolutionary fire which per • hi a p s it w ill r e quire even a long period yet to conic com pletely to extinguish: The seeds of rebellion in this re spect resemble other seeds : they may remain long buried ; s ymptom of veget a bl e lif e without any but no sooner do favourable circumstances conspire than they instantly begin to germinate—soon appear openly above the soil- 7 -4nd if not " nipped in the bud," as has been done on the present occasion, they speedily blossom, arid bear abundantly the fruit of destruction. France, it is to be feared, has many such seeds lying l a t en t i n h er b osom. That all fears have not subsided with the suppression of the present attempt is rendered obvious by the many nn usual Military movements observable in Paris. We hope the activity may proceed from excess of caution ra ther than apprehension of danger. It will be seen in another column that the Anniversary Meeting of the Protestant Association has been held in Liverpool — a meeting, as such meetings usually are, (and let it be mentioned to the honour of Protestant Britain,) Most respectably and numerously attended. We never witness such a scene without feeling it to be a most con vincing argument, as well as an unequivocal declaration, in favour of that growing attachment to our Protestant Establishment, which these meetings were originally in tended to elicit. There is nothing in the invitation here given that ministers to the vitiated appetites of our na ture—nothing to gratify, through the medium of sense, even those delightful emotions of taste, which a culti vated sensibility imparts—there are no highly-wrought passion pre sen t e d to t h e eye, such as the pictures of drama affords to its votaries, to awaken an intense inte rest. No; they who assemble together at a protestant meeting like this, must ha% e motives of a higher order— a chord of sublime tone must be made to vibrate—senti ments of a holier and more heart-subduing character must fill their minds. They meet to add their seal to their profession of venerating the altars at which their fathers and their forefathers, for many generations, wor• s hi ppe d —to express their anxiety of transmitting to their posterity the same glorious liberty of Protestantism which they themselves :have enjoyed. They meet, that the mists or papal error may he disposed by the light of Protestant trutiv—that the pure religion of the Bible-may be proclaimed to be the acknowledged religion of the subjects of Britain. But there is also a deep-seated per sonal feeling in the mind of 'the true chtistian, which brings him into these Protestant assemblies; The Bible— ' the word of God—awful expression !--Lis to him a trea sure-hotise of divine wisdom and consolation—a refuge from " the windy storm" of temporal anxiety—a balm that can 'minister to a mind diseased"—can "pluck from the memory arooted sorrow"—can raze nut the written troubles of the brain" —aye, and with a "sweet," but not "oblivious antidote," can "cleanse the foul bo om of that perilous stun - that weighs upon the heart." He, therefore, meets 'to preserve to himself, and to hand doWn, unimpaired, to posterity this u ineitimable How does his heart agonize when he looks through the perspective of another generation, and, trembling, sees his children forsaking that "only name under heaven given among men whereby we can be saved"—Jeans Christ—and impiously, and senselessly, kneeling down' before pictures, and offering up prayers to saints who hear not ; or blasphemously asking of the Virgin Mary not only to intercedefor; but to forgive sin. Oh ! when he looks at his fireside, and sees his evening family group assembled round him to hear that word of God' read to them, and afterwards to unite in their petitions to Him who is the author of "every good and every perfect gift," and then is awakened by the thought, that when he is passed into the grave and his children shall succeed to his place and duties, no Bible will be found in his habita tion—the voice of praise and supplication will be for ever lie be aronsed, and joyfully must he meet in assemblies like this, to support those Protestant institutions Which are the best, the only safeguards of 'religious liberty. The infidel in his ignorance may scoff, the Papist in his idolatry may smile, and the soci nian in the elation of intellectual pride may contemn it; but the genuine Christian knows, that there is an incom municable joy in those little family meetings, more real and more 'substantial, than riot, in all its prodigality, 'ever offered to sense. But while we thus contend for the faith once delivered to the saints, from personal considerations we also 'feel impelled to stand forward as promulgators of that faith to the benighted people around us. If churchman and dissenter unite in their desire, and equally labour to en lighten " the dark places of the earth," to instruct the civilized idolator of China, the ignorant savage of New Zealand, and to diffuse the glorious light of the gospel of 'truth over . the frigid coast of Greenland and the scattered islands of Australasia, is there not a more imperative call to address themselves to the poor deluded catholic, whose spiritual bondage is the more gloriotis, because it is the imposition of treachery and craft. If it be true, and true it incontestably is, what Petrarch declares, " Religio optima ac perfecta unit est, supra Christi nomen, supraque petram firmissimam fundata : reliquiw ()runes supersti tiones vanse, et device, et errores sunt, quibus est iter ad tartarum, atque ad Moitein,'non hanc momentaneam sed wternom."‘ Can we, with this terrible issue before us, hold ourselves irresponsible if we neglect any means of rescuing men —men ! of rescuing our follow - subjects from eternal perdition ? And what method can be de vised so probable of success as that of these protestant meetings 1 From them . a loud voice that will be heard to the farthest shore of Britain proclaims the message of truth—fraud is stripped of its mask—liberty is published to the slaves of papal tyranny —secular priestcraft is made to tremble beneath its 'gownand political oppressors shrink back 'under its appalling note. If many turn a deaf ear to the proclamations of these meetings,'and some are excited to gteatet paroxysms of rage by them, yet here and there the chain is unrivetted. One heart melts at the glad tidings, and another is aroused to inquiry ; and, like every other effusion of the word of God, neither does this " return void." It would be superfluous on this occasion to enumerate' the many and deadly errors of the ChUrch of RoMe. TO them public attention has been drawn by the brilliant exposures of the present meeting. We most earnestly entreat of all who have heard and of all who read them to re member that they are not speculative but practical errors —not errors that involve questions of time, but eternity also—not errors of individual import alone, but errors that influence iu their first and last consequences the well-being of society. Kings and kingdomS are the ob- . jects of its sport, and the time has been, when crowns and sceptres have been mere playthings in the papal nursery of Rome. But learning, the literce humaniores, the pro. gress of civilization, have meliorated, say the partizans of papacy, this spirit of tyranny and persecution—instead of being as he once was, Satan, " transformed into an an gel of light," the scourge of time !lath " whipped the of fending devil out of him," and he is become the purest benevolence personified. What mean, my kind friend, all these footsteps leading to thy den, and not one vesti glum retrorsum Oh, our eyes must be obstructed with a fatal gotta serena—our minds must be the abodes of the most sluggish insensibility —we must have wiped away " all record" from the " tablet of the brain" which " note or observation" hath inscribed upon it before we can credit this flattering, this delusive picture. Papacy received on its forehead at its birth the stamp and fin press of error and oppression, immutable and immitigable. If we look at papacy, as exercising an influence over the political welfare only of nations, we find it like a deadly upas,destroying every flower of liberty near it— we find to it the hand of tyranny crushing in its grasp every object that can favour civil independence. Look at Ireland—to what lengths of enormity has the priest craft of Romanism led its deluded and spirit-bound sub jects ? What a fertile field is it become for political agitation—what a hydra-headed monster of rebellion has it there engendered, which mocks even the sword ofjus tice! And shall we believe that papacy is another crea ture in England ? Here it is the caged tiger. It may have lost something of its ferocious exterior, but the un tameable heart remains unchanged: It is now struggling n o get free; and, although it is still safely chained under legal restraint, yet we cannot but perceive that if it were emancipated from all controul it would instantly assume its natural character. We are too apt to slumber in se curity when immediate danger does not awaken us to exertion. But let us not close our eyes to the indefati gable labours of Romanism now making to recover do minion in this land. Behold in what quick succession her chapels are rising in every section of the country. See with What untired assiduity her slaves are circulating their pernicious tracts—observe them waiting at the doors of churches to drop the poisoned page into the hand , of the unsuspecting. Listen to their audacious, but spe cionS harangues, delivered before mixed multitudes of Englishmen—insulting our very srteets with the disseini nation of their polluting doctrines—and all these with an evident design to gain political ascendancy, Think, fellow townsmen, of these things, and you will see the propriety, and acknowledge the necessity of these pro testant meetings. The Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer and his eldest matyB s , (m, Mr. Rice; arr i ve d y ester d a y, fr om his packet Thetis, Captain Townley. They proceeded. 'on Immediately to town, via Manchester. BLUE COAT HOSPITAL—II will he seen by an advertisement in another part of to-days paper, that a sermon will be preach e d on Sunday next, in St. Peter's Church. by the Rev. Rector Brooks, and a collection made in hid of the funds of thisinsti totion. We understen'd that his worship the Mayor has'signi tied his intention of being pre,ent on the oceasilm: Sr. MARY'S CHURCH, KIRKDALE.—We perceive, by an announcement in another column. that the Lord Bishop of Chester will preach a sermon on Monday next, at St. Mary's Church, Kirkdale, when a collection will be made for the put—, pose of providing free sittings in th e c h u rch. THE THEATe E.—The lovers of the drama will perceive that a treat is provided for them this evening. An excellent " hill of fare" is announced. The acting of Miss Chaplin. - (whose benefit it is,) in " The Little Jockey," as The Little Jockey has frequently been admired. Stuart ties also announced Shak speare s fine tragedy of " Coriolanus" for his benefit, on Mon day evening, when we trust his friends will rally round him and testify their sense of his high uteri's itS an actor, by " liliitighim a bumper." 'I HR SPAS IN GERMANY —llO CI alebeate pro perties of tin' Stodlitz Waters in Germane have long been held in high estimation. and their efficacy in all cases of scrofula'and other cotaneons affections has been fully eStablished. A cor rect analysis of the powders nrepared by Mr. Wray; of HOlhorn Hill, by several eminent professors of chemistry. has proved that' they contain the valuable mineral tonic, on whirl, the dittoes of the real waters so much depeud, in an active and. unimp a i re d state, and the absence of which in the common s e noi lz dens, probahli• accounts ftir their utter int ffiescy in all c a s es where the eenoine waters liner proved so highly beneficial. All the atiyantsees may now be derived from the use of Wrav's Chalvbe,te German Seoliitz Powders as would he ex p er i enved (ruin eyt e twated cuntinental Sprinyv,. th e cx .. tomee anti inconvenience of which, too often place., it out of the teach of many who would be hinny to avail themseiVes of their renovating. properties,—T'/!c News. these proceedings, sanctioned and adYised by the hest legal authorities. With regard to the relators swearing this or that, every syllable which hail appeared had not a shadow of foun datiiin. It was perfectly true that, in the language of counsel, they were made to use legal language. Some pelson has chosen to say this was sworn to. Nothing or the kind t oo k place. I am no t aware th at 1 have any further question to answer, except the question as to the letter. A letter was ad dressed to me proposing that this piestion should go from the Master of the !toils, past the Lord Chancellor direct into the House of Lords; and this 'was proposed as a means of saving delay. Now, under the advice of counsel, the committee came to the conclusion' that they ought not to accept that proposition, and they thought they were entitled to demand the opinion of the Lord Chancellor, which might be obtained without any material delay before the House of Lords could sit on this. question ; and' if that second opinion were against them, (for they had already had the opinion of the Master of the Rolls against them,) there might be a question that they should not go into the House of Lords. From the first to the last the course 'which has been pursued has been to avoid every pos sible delay on the question. Every delay his been avoided. And now with regard to the clergy who are waiting out of their Stipends, I believe there is scarcely any member of that com mittee who does not entertain the opinion that it is a very hard: thing upon the clergy that they should be deprived of their stipends; and probably if the endowment had not stopped the livings they formerly enjoyed, there would not have been 'a' member in the council to have deprived them of them.—(Hear.) , One thing I will state, there was a proposition made by me with the sanction of the committee, that in all cases where the corporation would ultimately have to pay the stipends of the clergy concerned, that the payment should at once be made without prejudice. It did so happen that though that proposi tion was made it was never carried into. effect. If there is any question I have not answered' on this subject, I shall be very happy to give any further information.—( Hear. ) Mr. Councillor J. N. Wool - ) was much obliged to the Town cleak. He was also glad to find that Mr. Bolton had not sworn as stated. He wished to ask whether the present' corporation were parties to the said question ? The TOWN-CLERK said they were parties in order to achieve the most summary decision of the question, and what was best calculated to settle it well on the one side or the other. The council were, in the name of the corporation, as defenders iu the Court of Chancery, (hear,) and they justly appeared, as parties advised that the church endowment was illegaL Mr. Councillor CHARLES LAW.tENCE.—Am I to understand that the question could be decided by an appeal to the privY council? Thei'owN-ctece.—l state at once that the decided opinion of the counsellors, including therein his Maje•ty's Attorney- General, was, that the clause had no relation in right to the question to be raised;and they were most di s ti nc tly a d v i se d not t o ti:e clause.‘ Th,ir attention was again driven to the subject - when the six i - tiOntiis were about to expire, and their Advice was still the same—that the clause had nothing to do with the question, and that the best course Wei to have the question legally decided. Mr. Councillor RATHIiONE wished to call attention to'the position in which Mr. Lawrenceplaced himself as a member of that council. He moved to get rid of the question altogether. He would put it to him how he could honourably, as a member of that council, try to put a stop to the proceedings altogether? Mr. Councillor Cuticle said he understood Mr. Lawrence to have said that it w as a quest i on on which, from feelings of de licacy, he could not give a vote. The committee had felt that the clergy were labouring under a great hardship, and th e y h a d a great desire t o re li eve thi s. The Town-clerk had not stated this matter as clearly as he could have wished. The committee had made a communication to three of the clergy who felt so dis posed, that the corpoiration would be qiiite willing to pay their stipends, on an engageMent frOm the trustees of the endow ment that they would . refund it. Therefore the hardship did not lie At the door of the council. Mr. Councillor BoLviti slid they never, under any circum stantes, would have opposed the continuance of the payment of the salaries of the present incumbents, so long as they perform ed their duties. Himself and his colleagues thought that a fraud had been committed—(that was the legal phrase) and the law had been resorted to for 'the 'purpose of getting back the £405,0()0 so fraudulently abstracted, as they conceived, from the corporate funds. Mr. Councillor C. LAWRENCE said one . werd of explanation on the suggestion made from government. That clause had been inserted for that very pnrpose by the privy council, and it was on that clause be had taken the steps be had. Without that clause he never would have been a party to that endow ment. It was with the c l ear and distinct un derstanding of a recommendation from government, that that clause was insert ed. Mr. Lawrence concluded by - stating that he did wish to press his amendment. Messrs. Bolton, J. Holmes, L. Heyworth, Blackburn, and Birch were then re-elected on the committee. CUSTOM-HOUSE COMMITTEE. The following gentlemen were appointed to hum this corn. mittee for the ensuing year :—MessrS. Moon, Evans, H. Holmes, Jordan, Maxwell, and Booth. BOROUGH COURT AND COURT OF REQUESTS. It was moved by Mr. Walmsley, that the following gentlemen form the above committee:—Messrs. Bright, .1. Lawrence, Duncan, Rushton, Walmsley, and Leasell. Agreed to. CORPORATION CHURCHES. Mr. Walmsley moved that a new committee be appointed to manage ,the pecuniary concerns of the corporation churches. • greed to.—The committee appointed consisted of Messrs. H. Horn by, Walmsley, J. Smith, H. Lawrence, and Platt. A requisition from the committee of the Ladies' Charity, re vesting that the use of the suit of rooms in the Town-hall be granted for their ball, on Tuesday, the 27th December, was presented by the Mayor. The request was at once unanimously complied with under the usual rule. The council adjourned at half-past three to eleven o'clock on Wednesday next. THEATRE-ROYAL. FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. DART. (ON MONDAY next, the 14th instant will be performed lJ Shakspeare's Tragedy of CORIOLANUS OR, THE ROMAN MATRON. Caius Marcius Coriolanus (His first appearance in that character.) After which, an entirely new Ballet of Dance and Action, called LA DILIGENCE; OR, THE BANDITTI OF THE FOREST. Principal characters by the Messrs. Ridgways and Jonas and Mademoiselle Marie. To conclude with the admired Drama of THERESE; OR, THE ORPHAN OF GENEVI. Carwin (the Advocate) ' Mr. Stuart. Tickets may be had of Mr. STUART, at his Residence, 17, Upper Beau-street; and of Mr. PARKER, Box-office. THEATRE-ROYAL LIVERPOOL. M ISS CHAPLIN begs leave to express her acknowledge ments to the Ladies and Gentlemen of Li erpool, her Friends an d th e P u bli c i n general, for the lib al Patronage with whi c h s h e was h onoured l ast season, and the same time to announce that her BENEFIT is fixed fo FRIDAY next, the 11th instant, on which occasion will be erformed the cele brated Comedy called MAN AND WIF ; OR, MORE SECRETS THAN NE!!! Sir Willoughby Worrett . Mr. Granby Charles A ustencourt Mr. W. Howard. Cornelius O'Diditnus. Mr. Baker. Lady Worrett..Mrs. Clarke I Fanny Miss Faucit. Helen Worrett (with the favourite song of " Advice to al! Maidens") ..Miss Chaplin. A new Pas de Deux, by Mr. J. Ridgway and Media. Marie. After which the Musical Drama of THE LITTLE JOCKEY. Florimend........Mr. Chaplin. I Linval....Mr. G. Horncastle. Arinette (the. little jockey, first time)..Miss Chaplin, in which character she will slug the celebrated Jockey Song. " The Boy iu Yellow wins the Day." The popular Janus D ance; b y M r . T. Ridgway and Mr. Jonas. The whole to conclude with the favourite Farce of THE HAPPIEST DAY OF MY LIFE. Mr. Gillman Mr. Baker I Charles.... Mr. W.. H. Bland. Mrs. DudieV.. Mrs. Clarke I Sophia.. Miss Chaplin. Tickets to be had. of Miss CHAPLIN, No. 3, Hood-street, Queen's-square, and at the usual places. Vie Eiberpool ,fctantiarb. Nov. 11, 1836 tniporto. EA SD I.VbIP,S. CAPE OF GOOD HOPE, &e. Formidable, (335) Mackay, fm Singapore, with 50 bags pearl sago: Murray, Syine and eo-30 t antimony ore, 9 cks 1 sae 903 bags sugar, 1150 bags coffer, 354 bags pepper, 130 boxes cassia lignea, 3 es gam boge, 1511 bdis rattans, RVI Ise and co-1 case sundries, W C Lon , brotigb-40.i basltets terra japonica, 4 eases tOrthiSetrhell, 1 case silk. Order— Dk A FR ICA. Wilberforce, (135)-flowan, fin Africa, with abt 400 casks palm oil, '220 elephants' teeth, T Harrison and ro—C,l Dk WEST INDIES AND MADEIRA.. Frankland, (316) Webb, fm Demerara, with 65 lids sugar, 10 pns h<l rum, Wilson and Cort-2.B•hds sugar, 10 pns rum, S.Mackay-P, lids sugar, 10 p ns rum , Ii F H Maekentie-25 hds sugar, D Wil 10 do, G Booker and co-30 do, Sandbach'und - co-20 pns 'rum, T Murray-34 do, Order-45 Ms sugar, 75 pns rum, 'N 'Waterhouse and Sons-1 brl 1 bag coffee .1 Webb-1 brl 1 bagilo, , .l Nelson-1 hag do. o-- J Winder and e 63 has' 15 tcs 41 brls stumr, 60 pis rum, 91 pns 20 tea 1 brl 1/10bi531,4, 0 Edwards-10 pns mol sses, Wilson and Cort-3 pkg s B goods and 1 .11d Port wine relit, Order-W Dk Friendship, (235) M'Cullocb, fin. Behie, with 156 logs mahoganYe 4 t log Wood, 3 tuks apprl retd, - Chaloner and Houglitong Dk SOUTH .4MERICA. Courier, (112) Nelson, fm Lima, with hags of soda. 1 Brock lebank-LllB6 dry hides, 371 hales cotton, ( - limit, Bright and cd bxs conts nnkn, It Ferguson -2 do, C Parker-t do. G F Dick son-I do, G Barker-1 do, ~1 Ilibby and co-1 do, .1 Smith-2 pkgs bags do, Order-l.prel do, Castellain and Sons-1 do, C Tayleur and eo-G Dk BRITISH AMERICA: Wilmot, (687) - Russel, fin St John, N B. with 167 ps birch. 13 1 ,4 pitch pine and 914 is fir timber, 71 e 4 deals, deal ends, battens and batten ends, 61 chd staves, cl 6 hieliory handspikes, 8 fins lathwood 2 brls cranberries, R D Wilmot-43 Dk Onondaga (567) Morgan, fin Quebec, with 353 ps* pine timber. 3743 deals, 40 deal ends, 2749 standard ; 8485 W I and 3600 brl stares. J Froste and co—B Dk EUROPE : Yeoman, (1(t7) Mitchinson, fin St Petersburg, with 101) eks Stewart, Bald and e0— , 17 do, 'II and .1 Homily and co-510 do, .2341 bars iron, tc 20 jis lathwood, Order—At 6t t• hemp; Neuman a nd Engel—W Dk Commerce, (180) Primrose, fm St. Petersburg, with 517 eks Came and Telo-61.5 bars iron, E Spence- , 400 ps lathwood 3 t oakum( Barton, heath and co—G Dk ;libipping Enttlltgente. TUESDAY, Nov. B.—Noon, Wind West.—Moderate. (An Irish mail—High Water 10h 29m a.m.) ARllrvuo.—Courier, Nelson,.from Lima, sailed 6th August—Frank land, Webb, from Demerara. Ou the pith May, on the outward pas sage, in Ist. 30 17, long. 2.5 35. board(d the brig Despatch, of Bideford, dismasied, waterrogged, and abandoned. SAlLED.—lintehinson, Robinson, for Trinidad—Ellen Jenkinson. Irving, for • Lislion—Tinnesi, Masters, for Bordeaux. and Valparaiso. The overland mail of the Ist June arrived at Bombay 18th July. Parsee, M•Kellar, from the Clyde; Juliana end Sovereign, from London ; St. George, hence and Mauritius; and Charles lieurtley, fm Rio Janeiro, at Calcutta. Perfect, Snell, from the Clyde, a t Madras. • Hector, sailed from Calcutta for London sth July, and Exporter on the Bth. Bridget, Croshie, sailed for thisport on the Bth. Sir John •robin, Griffiths, hence ; Catharine and Bethea-, Andrew's; and Prances, from St. John, N. 8., at Demerara. WEDNESDAY, Nov. 9.—Noon, Wind W.—Fresh breete. {high Wafer llli 7m a.m.) Annivan—The Cybele, Armstrong, from Pernambuco, in 10 days— Anna Sophia. BUtelier, from Leghorn—Yeoman, MitchiriQon ; and Corninerce, Primrose, from St Petersburg—Marmora. Meyer, from James River, Virginia. ALso ARRiV D—The Corsair, Gowan, from Belfast—Grans trite, White, from Drogheda —Dolphin, Smithett, from Dublin—George IV Parsons, from Newry—Dennis earthy, Connor,TromWexford—Sarah Trotman, Bushby, from Workington—Queen of the Isle, Gill, from Isleman. SAILED—The Numa,Williams, for Sierra Leone—Planter, Manning. for Constantinople—Thomas Dempsey, Weatherell, for Africa—:Eliza Sanders, Finney, for Alexandria, Egyii_t—Cintra, O'Brien, for Gibrsl tar. Bcc—Maria, Miller, fOr Sydney, N SnuthWees—Albion, Brown, for Savannah—Halifax, M'Cleary, for Halifax—Europe, Marshall ; Matanzas, Springer ; and Tamarac, Kane, for New York—Hannah, Campbell, for Havana—Mary Cummings, Thompson, for Havre— Stu ah, Ellwood, for Berhice—Ellen German, Blundell, from Leghorn —Miranda, Bolton, fur Demerara. The Chieftain, Nooney ; Victoria, Yates. hence, at Pernambuco. Niagara, Rigby, hence and Bahia, at Valparaiso. ErcOle, Petrie, hence, at.Messina, Ann Paley, Rolstone ; and Warrior, Lister, hence, at Lisbon. . Laura Ann, Casely, hence, at Lisbon, in 7 days. Ruby, Firrant, hence, at do. Angelina, Stinge ; & Twee Gebroeders, Rieke, hence, at Antiretp. Herrrioder, Neils, hence, at Arendahl. Jupiter, Kraeft, hence, at Danzie. Triton, Moller, hence, at Flensburg. Hoop, Guyt ; Catherine, Van Dam ; and Agatha, Scharr, hence, at Ilelvoet. Argo, Schultz ; and Ludwig Wilhelm, Muller, hence, at Llebau. Orontes, Webster, hence, at St Petersburg. • A lida, Jonker, hence, at the Texel. Ellen, Kemp, from Batavia, at Cowes. Bengal. Packet, Steward, from Calcutta, at Deal. Florence, Cundy ; and Ritson, Dillon, from Odessa, in the Downs. President, —, from Hayti, at Falmouth, in 31 days. . Horn, Garratt, for Licati, at do, With mainmast sprung. Richard Hill, Smith, from. Cardiff, it Messina. Louisa, Chalker, from Leghorn, at Ayrshire Lass; Nicol, from Malta, at do. 114ara, Gibson, from Newfoundland, at do. San Pablo, Baragorda, hence for Havana, at llfr robe. Patriot, Oliver, from Palermo, at London. Emily, Smith, from Buenos Ayres, - at do. William Broderick, Smith, from St Petersburg, at do. Glenarm, Greber, hence for the Cape of Good lint at Milford. Africa, Skelton, from. Ceylon, at Portsmouth, sail( 'd 4th July. Tine, Ellis, from Zante, at Stnndgate Creek. Harriet, hence for Bombay, was spoken in lat. 50 ,long. 19 0. Ivanhoe, Gibson, hen c e f or Rio d e J ane i ro, was sik'ken 10th Aug. in lat. 6 N, long, 13 W. The Freeland ' --, from Africa to this port, was spo k en Bth ult. in lat. 22, 10ng.33, . The Reynard, Weatherall. from Denia to this port, was spoken 10th ult, off Cape de Gatt. The Barton, Anwyl, hence for Barbados, was spoken 27th lilt. in lat. 43, long. 15. CaomsTXnr, Oct. 23.—The Ann, Chevis, from Liverpool to St Pe tersburg, is on shore near the Tolbeacon. PLYMOUTH, Nov. 6.—On the 4th instant, Mr. Nicholas, the master, and a portion of the crew of the barque Louisa, of this port, belonging to Messrs. Pope, were landed from a fishing sloop, out of the brig Mary, Chicken, of. Scarborough. The Louisa left Quebec for Pad stow, on the 22d September- on the 27th, off Cape Chat, experienced,. heavy gales, .and threw deck load overboard; the ship making water, on the 13th October, became water-logged Sz perfectly unmanageable ; after being many hours in this state, the Mary came in sight, and pro videntially saw their distressed situation, and tool; the crew oil' the wreck. Oct. 18, spoke the American brig Lunar, from Ilambro' for: New York, out 19 days, with passengers ; seven of the crew of the Louisa shipped on board the Lunar. Captain Nicholas speaks in high .terms of the kind treatment himself and crew experienced from Cap tain Chicken, who passed up Channel yesterday, after putting Capt. NleholaA and the crew left on board the Salting sloop on shore. The Louisa was left in lat. 44 54 N, long. 38 30 W. THURSDAY, Nov. 10.—Nocin, Wind W.S.W.—Modesikte (High water 1111 44m a.m.) Amman —The Sherbrooke, Longford, from New York—firiitarmiti , Packet, Innes ; and Lily, M'Donald, from Trieste. ALSO ARRIVED—The Marquis of Ely, Murphy, from Wexfo Despatch, Hall, from Wicklow—Swift, Hill, from Bristol—Gaz Evans; from Bideford—Venus, Munro, froM Toberrnor--r• • from Maryport—Atul, Brown, from Workington. SAIL B -The Monongahela, Brown; for Philadelphia—Eiditiiiii4". Dearness, for New 1 ork--The 'tuna. Sanderson, for LluentislVret=* Tamarac, Kane, for New York. The Kelsick Wood, hence for Jamaica; was spoken'7th NOV. in hit 49, long. 8 48. • , Gilhelm°, Godfrey, hence, at Monte Video. Alpha, Turner, from Monte Video, at Falmouth. The Portl an d, h ence for Bombay, was spoken 25th Sept: Off Hilt,. 4 Island of Trinitlada.- - Spider Packet, from Rio Janeiro, off Monte Video, Bth Sept. The Portia sailed from tWonte Video, 6th Sept. The Hornet Packet sailed for Rio Janeiro, 29th Aug. ••. Comala, M . Neil, hence for Calcutta, was spoken 31st Oct. in lat.. 49 30 N, long. 8 50 W. Pacific. Fisk, hence, at New York, 17th Oct. .4 - Charlotte, Parker, hence, at do, 19th Maria Frederica, ----, hence, at Cuxhaven. Sultana, APAuley, from New York, at Quebec. Ellen, Kemp, from Batavia, at Cowes. The Sherbrooke, Longford, arrived from New York, sailed 'frOiri Staten Wand on 20th Oct. On the 22d, in lat. 42 40, long. 58; spidee . the Rembrandt, from Vera Cruz, and supplied her with provistons.' miles E of Whitby, was passed on the 20th Oct. about fifty miles S Eof St Peter's, on her beam ends, with loss of main St naizen masts, and apparently but recently abandoned. KEY WE ST, Sept. 30.—The cargo of the Integrity, from Ifonduras-1 to Liverpool, was soil 1411 t instant for 3619 dollars 50 cents. The., Court awarded 2000 dollars salve.ge. TELEGRAPH OFFICE, Novidrissit 10, 1836. Wind at Holyhead West.—Blowing fresh. Off Holyhead, inward-bound—No. 1393, Acorn, B Schnr and c).. 1520, Donna-Maria, B B; fm Oporto, at 11 30, a.m.—No. 1125, Gipiy, Mir, from Waterford ; and No. 1124, Herald, Schni., frOld Cork, at 1 p m. Off Holyhead, outward-bound—No. 339, Thomas Dempsey, B 11, for Africa ; and No. 80, Sarah, B B, for Berbice, at 2 p.m.. Olarketo. LIVERPOOL CORN EXCIIANGB, Nov. 10. nATs, 4r 450, 1 183 6 s. l 0, (1 lrish,n. kilndried 3 10 3 4. 1' - Do. old do. Do. prime,42lb • Do. do. old 4 4'.. 4' fi Foreign, free... , 0 0 0 • Do. in bond - PitAsit,•fr irne. qr 46 0 , 50. 0' Foieign;white Rolti4s, 41 , imp . . qr English; new 5l 0 .. 55' Do. Pigeon, old., 52 0 56' 0 - Foreign, free 50: 0 .. 54 0' Do. in bond 37 0....44 a• Irish, Tiek,e. new 48 0.. 51 0 Do. old 5O 0 .. 0 MALT, imp: qr English isniAN Red. • ' - 0 0— 0 White -.. 0 0- •' FLOUR, V 280th. English, fine .... 61 0.. 64 0 . 1 Irish gds new.. 5:3 60' Do. fne .... American. sweet, per brl. free.... 0 0 0 Do. in bond 26 9 .. 28 Do. sour, free 2B 0 .. 31 0 Do. in bond Canadian, free - 0 Do. in bond 0 0 .. iIATNigAi., 4r 2401 ii English, new .... 0 0 0. 0 Irish, new - DO. old ... 30 0.. 37 6 il3uAr4, 49' 34th ... 1 10 vvng.T. 701 b. s a 9 Englislired,erp .838 10 2 10 6 Do. old Sl° 4 I° 8 Do. new white lO 6 .. 11 0 Do. old lO 8 .. 11 2 Scotch, white 0 0.. 0 0 Do. red lrish red, crop 1836 8 10 .. 9 9 Do. old 8 9 .. 9 9 Do. white 1836 .9 8 10 3 Do. old 9 3 .. 10 3 Dantzik : red .. 0 0.. 0 0 Do, white Stettin, red 0 0.. 0 0 Do. white 0 0.. 0 0 Conigsberg, red 0 0.. 0 0 Dn. white Riga & Petersburg 0 0.. 0 0 Odessa Russian, hard... • 0 0 .. 0 0 Canada, red 0 0 0 0 Do. white Bonded Wheat Rre,imp. qr. English and Foreign, free 0 0.. 0 0 Do. in bond ..•• 0 0.. 0 0 BA Iti.RY, ctft imp.qr English, Malttui, 41 0 .. 45 0 Do. Grinding.6olb 4 4.. 4 7 Irish, Malting, do. 5 6 .. 5 9 . Do. 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