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which phatic and to below M'Ne object to the their c we .say the la to th Detore I lieves in Rev. H ot nis God an its bet what is Almight Your l hum' not many persons it sure to the Brit Bentinc in aid c sal of Lord Geort fund I principle of share this cow towarc ailar undertakings in Irgan !rp by the state. It is a face should too, WE lines, which are no. ld which are sought t are mostly situated in—tho districts felt ; • and that consec ployment of the populatior little relief to those who ar( ployment. The conversion upon the most in too, of able-bodied agricultural la bourers into the class of " navvies," may be one doubtful permanent advantage to the moral and social welfare of the people ; as it is well know'', that men thus employed, and having become ac customed to the high wages, which such labour affords, and the reckless h a bit s w hi c h th ose wages and the contact into which those receiving t hem ate rpoot :I up t supple ', or, a rellow-c males ( voted leans of is zeal EXCELI it 19 $ the d( 111 roistered THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. e, rarely return again to their original jto those who shall have exercised their functions OFFICIAL INQUIRY RELATIVE TO THE SUP- lcations as cul )il. 'I sfaetorily for fifteen year and, fou PLY W IS FOR LIVERPOOL, schools shall be provided with the means of in- Yesterday, Cuthbert Edward Ellison, Esq., barrister- A the teachings of the political structing the children frequenting them in various onomist, who would leave all undertakings of a at-law, and George Lowe, civil engineer, presided at the trades and industrial occupations, which, it was Sessions-house in this town, to examine witnesses and re argues—and, chdracter to private enterprise, and who argued, would induce parents of families not to m po a r i t n t i o nt p er a e r s li t a i m n el s r n lat , iye , t v o as tsuppl of as a general rule, justly—that where involved L . an application gas withdraw their children at so early an age as at that enterprise refuses to step in, there can be little about to be made to p q arli r a y ment, by the Liverpool Guar - of the work to be done, present is the practice, and also encourage others dian Gas Company, who propose to supply gasat a cheaper to send their children to schools, in which they rate than the two existing companies, notwithstanding would learn occupations calculated to be useful to their recent reductions in charges. Another advertise ment announced an intention of applying to parliament, the Old Gar the fa in the int whiA .haract result, colds out a promise of any very profitabl Vhen we regard the sub.} iowever, with all yi in atter life. The workhouse schools, t marquis also intimated, are to be improved in le no- its con corn antes, these obi( ad it is not at all -light Company, for powers to raise a fur ther sum of money for the extension 'of their works. Both inquiries were under the provisions of an act passed last session, for the purpose of making preliminary in . the propolal of the noble lord may not be ultimately by disnangionn+P nernrinn an MITA }ll. Further than this mere improvement of the exist mg educational machinery, and to the establish- ment of any really comprehensive system, of which hall form a 'part system, in 'fact, vorthy of being called national,—her Majesty's ilovernment express themselves afraid to go. Any ) establish such a system, the noble mar- Old, or Original Dale-street Gas-light Company ; Mr. J. B. Lloyd, for the New Gas and Coke Company ; Mr. Evans, for the Guardian Society ; and Mr. Swift, for the Guardian Gas Company Mr the G representec a large number cc of objections and opponents the inhabit is of the town Mr. LLOYD said tbaiOn'behalf of his clients he was thrown of t. We a quire d to rnotives w h must be —dieaded even )ntact between persons of one religious persuasion and rose of another. They carried their objections, certainl a degree far beyond what he (Lord Lansdom e should do, however confient he might be it ess, the truth, or thu excellence of the religion with The COmmissioncrs having agreed that the case for the old company should be first heard, Mr, CARSON said the object of his clients was to raise a fur 1 in th ) thought her sum to en which he might b( advancement But at the same time i6ctions to such a de- were many who felt these in the isoeial seal rrenuer hir ystem which' would combine under the same roof, and portion under the same system of instruction, persons of different I for t will the dr a system ,nd they were not without power, or years to come ability, or authority in this country, —were those who ob jected to any interference of the Government at all with the national education, and who considered that educa tion, into which subject they carried the same views which, they entertained on the subject of religion, ought to be on the voluntary system. They held that any interference by the Government on a large scale would have the effect na, of damping energies and discouraging exertions which Ugh not to the ex- ;ht would i Whe: e the novelty of the statement of difficulty ip exists we are utterly at a loss to discover. There have always been religious differences im peding the establishment of a national system of Education, from which religious teaching is not ex cluded ; and, as there always will be such differ- , we must conclude, from his Lordship's own premises, that a National system of Education, of which teaching in Religion is a component part, is to be indefinitely postponed—at we-have a Government in the country vu I ch is honest anti courageous enougt tion to act upon its own convic- ind to brave the factious cries of hostile and The deference of the Noble ,ending sects, Marquis to opposition from such a source is inex cusable after the confession, in a subsec whilst he thus ihreui at forwar the people, is pre has been he au- a 60,000 to 140,000 inh - abitants r such a district were called a nerely to look after the clergy, hat•he shall visit the sick, give know, and be known by, his ?. is it, to look for the per ,,,.n a rector of Liverpool with vicar of Whalley with its five-and Ant, but th ;note the ob with letters re intarb VARY 9, 1 (1 alone to ithon, wittr'a few modifications of tageously carried out enterprise in Ir it the °IV .s. anti )eople the fund .es for their permanent f estimates, will be require, this yea and how small kely to be eve cease next year, or probably for some But the measure of Lord George Bentinck, it is urged, will not meet the first emergency. In part, we admit that such is the fact. We contend, hom ever, it will do something. In the first place completion of the 1500 miles of railway in I' generally a be constructed in district of the country - where the population enjoys at present the maximum amount of comfort—and the maximum in Ireland is a low scale—the withdrawal of these families fiom absolute deperidance upon the soil cannot fail to produce benefit_to those engaged in the pursuits of agriculture ai The labour afforded by these id industry generally efficient proposed by let free ;rial aid in the ca frArprl a thousand lroug th in every len re- for ourselves Maker. 3 of the 3.11 v we a denial oithis The member Limes to remind )f God hims, usive entlu iflicient wor 1 - ost High it i its sub. ) matter Joked upo Is a I )r this too ready Sur, to watch )stance for th ands, snatched h men, an em- ) their eloquent !for his afflicted •om a thousand le energy with of our own by without arcely thank .ritices, en ren by the r. Hugh ay bear 'd of entreat vill be seer B, nd their, and it - has been !d ex- her benevo -We speak aizing the dto doso ir 6h on account of t nation be .ed by ti other example i the service of T MAJESTY, and faithful pool, in th pray that-th ta of S ithatr 1 from t me sacred a two of the )ud to nation that, by per is have bee rtiment Sur Majesty t y on which al best of piibiic works ing out of an poor law, and even of the res . tri f ed one wernment amount of for the pu &c., will 1 of no mean assist to the landowner, cramped as his efforts are by and of tenure; and ti an ult _...,ate improvement of his Property may tempt him to do more for the advancement of that -lilt by his own means than he might otherwise ' The influx of English capital into Ire ant advantages, would be 1, and its concomi s secu- )3 ,- the ;e's participation in The politico-economicsl objection we do not re gard as at all tenable. Private enterprise, to which it is urged that the improvement of the condition of Ireland should be left, has been tried for two centuries and failed ; and such private enterprise need not be hindered by the Government taking into its own hands the maturing of the railway system in that country. There is still a vast amount of work for the capital and the industry of the country to do before Ireland can be enabled to take up her just position as an integral portion of the empire, or to develope the vast resources of her soil and of her geographical location. The abstract theories of 13 litical economy are totally inapplica le in a country whose evils and mise complicated and so accumulated ries are so It is more, however, as an aid to the measures of Government for the permanent improvement of Ireland, that we regard with favour the present lb .1 Enalan ias converted the 3arren soil 1 fertile ias made the green blade ring up and the corn crops wave, and planted - 4 man where, of old, was to be vious morass ; if commerce ias made, by its assistance, vast strides in advance; f the buried mineral wealth of our country has by t been made conducive to the wants and the corn- E'orts of man ; if the locomotive has borne civiliza tion and improvement in its path—as who shall deny that it has ?—if it has brou g ht th e unin- icial contact with those of the populous iring town or the busy port; if it has ndustry of vast masses of )ur population itherto shut Out by nature he ;elf from a participation in the benefits of our im )roved commerce, what is the same cause not cal- 3ulated to effect in benighted and unhappy Ire and ? Spend a million sterling in reclaiming Jogs and wastes, in making roads and building Farmhouses, for the permanent improvement of a country, whose population has not capital to stock Ind crop above a few roods of potatoe ground ! Faugh: Give Ireland railways, and her bogs and vastes will reclaim themselves under the awakened mterprise of her own people. A railway never ran hrough a country the most uninviting, in which t (lid not startle indolence from it, slumber, and develope, not only in the soil but in man, resources and energies of which neither ever made use or were imagined to possess. There are, however, some modifications in the scheme of the Protectionist Leader which we think might be made with advantage, and would be cal culated to win for it a more extended approval from the public. In a measure so extensive as this, which calls upon the State for so large an advance of - 'bile money as £16 5 000 5 006 +ha ty'rnen, )wn t hat many of the Irish lines, for which acts we sion, were hurried through Parliament ith much ungracious to op - pose the declared wishes of Irish communities, although doubtful of the correctness tta upon which they were formed, and ;o the representatives of Ireland the moral the suggestion of Lord G lallwav hould reconsider these measur being ca evil. 'S 'led out by Government aid, will meet the should suggest, however, that the ad- not one-third, as st a bett iOnld be one-half the capital, d by his lordship, by which derived by the state. er, that the present claim now made in !curity would not certain, moreov and , ehalf, do not afford a f rninent to undertake ti Iting opportunity for duty, which has by in this country, of s own ma- nagement, or the management of an Irish Board, the profits of which should be devoted to purely either in cheapening the s traffic inc seal, or in the formation of increased accommodation for the country. This subject, however, is too grave a one to be discussed nd we only refer to it as deserving of serious nt crisis. Government, .1 s Drew ;ely what we :ct in the the R V will THE course which h We remarked at the time eagues would not grapple ith the admitted evils, arising from the throne ticipated from the allusion t( cull from tl Lord John and 1 'ant of a comprehensive educational measure, to e carried out by the state, hut would confine 3 to some improvement in the training of ,nd in the supervision of the schools esta- lolled, by the stat( enough in their way, but quite inade o meet the requirements of the case. And h are the features of the policy announced by Marquis of 1 nsdowne on Friday evening, the is of vinch ,all here, briefly state [he noble marquis, after dwelling upon the ad- Itages, stated to have been derived from the su vision over the existing schools, exercised by the yfficers of the Education - Committee of the Privy ouncil, intimated that additional inspectors would be appointed, with a view to an inspection of each school at least once a year ; in the second place, that apprentices would be taken from the various schools with a view to their ultimate appointment as schoolmasters, those found not to be sufficiently eligible, after going through a course of normal training, to he provided with employment in the revenue departments, as guagers, &c.; thirdly, it is proposed to afford retiring pensions to school masters and mistresses incapacitated, and gratuities il, of being th respect to th land bein I piou uent pas- ful classes of objections, he was far from such opinion's N .e generally enter- man could contemplate the - establishment of a sys m of popular Education, in this country, on the Rol; cririn in +ll a+ 01-c:4-orn .i+ all, or who could have supposed it safe or expedient that the great mass of the people should be 'called on to enter the field of general knowledge, and yet D travc invite there without the they should light of Religion." Entertaining such opinions, his lordship would surely have done well to have thrown himself upon what he confesses to be the " general" feeling of the country, and to have risked the apprehended " difficulties, opposition, .. such a general feeling existing in favour of a really comprehensive national system, must speedily sub side as its usefulness manifested itself. In behalf of such a course Lord Brougham ex- pressed himself in decided terms ; and in a great measure recognises the fact, left out of view by aat the Inst of this Country are based upon at Religion. After , eulogising the past exertions o the clergy in promoting education amongst the people, his lordship went on to say : " The Church would not have any system which was Established so comprehensive as not to allow of any clerical inter ference ; the Dissenters would not have any system which allowed the least interference on the part of the Church ; and, therefore, unhappily, between the two, education wer -q to the wall-- ..nt more or les, _ It was impossible to hay, such a system of supervision as would suit all Dissenters Ind leave the Dissenters 3 take if or not, as they pleased There are few who, from his large opportunities, enjoyed during many years of intimate contact with the leaders of the dissenting party, are better able than his lordship to decide how far the outcry, i has hitherto been directed by that party tgainst a system of education over which the church shall have a reasonable amount of superin- tendence, is the outcry of the leaders merely, or is cordially adopted by the masses whom they lead. It is clear that he pets it down to the former; and most justly he concludes—and experience warrants him in doing so—that those masses will not for any length of time be prevailed upon to withdraw themseh•es from a participation, upon merely ima ginary grounds, in the benefit§ of a sound educa- fional system With - resj )ect to that portion of the government plea for declining to establish such a system, on the ground of anticipated objection from those who argue that education, like religion, should be left to voluntary efforts, we do not feel it necessary to offer more than a remark. We have seen the short-comings of the voluntary system thus even in providing means of instruction for children Of parents predisposed by their religious convictions to accept its aid. But that anything l • 1 of infant vice, resulting from ignorance, existing amongst the neglected poor of our large towns, and eien in many ofmir agricultural districts, will require great hardihood to maintain. We regret most deeply that Lord John Russell and his colleagues have, in the measure under shrunk -- from the performance of what is now acknowledged to be, on the part of the state, notice, lso, which can bejuaifiedon purely economical grounds No previous government has ever been placed in such a favourable position for the settlement of this question upon a comprehensive and efficient scale. The church, we firmly believe, was not dis posed to throw obstacles in the way, but rathe. willing to concede somewhat to obtain such a set tlement; and their relations towards the various dissenting sects would have enabled the ministry to do more towards appeasing any clamours, which might have arisen from those sects, than a Con- servative government can ever expect to effect, Whether an effort will be made in the other house of Parliament to procure an extension of the present measure, we do not, of course, as yet know. The feeling with which the proposition was received in the Lords, and the approval recorded in its favour from the episcopal bench, leave us little to hope for from that quarter. Lieutenant Benjamin Alpin has been appointed to coin mand the Redwing steam-packet at this port. The Rev. J. Gm, at present curate of St. Church, in this town, has been presented by the vicar o: rrescot, to Of Trinity College, Canci. Goluar incumbent Of St. Matthew's C-hurch, in ited Examiner, at that College, d Commerce, College of Pre- in Natural Philosoph. evening, Lead, on electricit lessrs. Sewell and Dalton deliver, t ture at the ( which will be illustrated by the most brillant experiments connected with the science. The whole of the proceeds are to be given to the fund in aid of the distressed. ANOTIIER DEATII FROM BURNING.---ROSIIIIIIR O'Neill, aged six years, living with her parents in Dale street,' was left alone in a cellar, and her clothes catching tire she was so severely burned that she died on the fol- ACCIDENT TO MR. TYLER THE BARRISTEII..-ThiS gentleman, who has recently joined the Sessions here, and whose abilities have already attracted notice, met with an accident last Thursday forenoon. The car in which he was proceeding to the Railway Station was com pletely upset at the corner of Castle-street, but with the exception of his being slightly bruised, we _are happy to say, that the learned 'ientiernan es ped without any ma- terial injury. EXAMINATION OF MAATERS AND MATES. - At a meet ing held by the Board of Examiners, at the Board-room, Observatory, on Tuesday last, Mr. John Hind, first offi cer of the Caledonia steamship, one of the British and North American royal mail packets, was found so well acquainted with nautical astronomy, surveying, and great circle sailing, as to entitle him to a master's first-class eUra certificate. Mr. Robert Jay, second officer of the a mship Acadia, in the same service, and Mr. William Henry Grebow, late master of the William Murray of this port, were both found well qualified to take first-class extra certificates as masters. Feb. 9, 184/. given somewhat reluctantly by M by'confining itself to t company ments of the town ; and he gave a sketch of the origin of I not be made, and that a lay the company in 1816 up to the present ." of shares raised from time to time, &c ger amount would not be lalready in the company . _ Alter adducing a vari e ty o f statistics, and stating that the accounts had been regularly filed with the Clerk of the Peace, he stated that the company had well and faithfully carried their mains to the poor as well as the rich—even in unprofitable districts. They had already expended a large sum in additional works, and they were, therefore, about to apply for powers to raise a further capital. He explained the various prices at which they had supplied gas from Ss. per 1000 feet, in 1841, to 4s. 6d. at the pre- the parliamenta'ry borough, and also that they were not sent time. 'the committee in the Commons laid down the maximum price at 4s. 6d. from the Ist of January, 1846, but the company he represented had by anticipation reduced the price to that moderate sum from the previous of the Guardian Gas Cbmpany, for !vhoiii produced by any company always opposed ever - 3r' person extant. All their accounts had been duly audited, and what they were now about to apply for was to raise a further capital of £200,000, in 2000 shares, at £25 each, with power to borrow half of the amount stated (X 100,000), and a further sum, if required, to effectually carry out the works for the b Mr. CARSON then called Mr. George Miller, the chief clerk of the Liverpool Gas-light Company. Mr. MILLER said he had filled the situation about 17 years. The capital was originally £50,000, in 500 shares of .ZlOO. The Company had expended £193,190, by the time they went to Parliament in 1841, when £lOO,OOO was capitalized into 1000 shares, giving two shares to each pro- nedthat - half of the new sliares Act, sold by auction, and real- Were, as required by the ized a goodpremium- To Mr. kVANS.—The whole of our capital, £263,534, has been expended in the works. Of this, £200,000 bears interest at 10 per cent. In 1841, before Parliament, the Company proposed to raise £llO,OOO, but was only only allowed to raise £50.000. The sum of £143,000, capital, was appropriated for dividend and extension of works. The first act obtained did not limit them with regard to prpfits. The charge for 1000 feet of gas was then 15s. About 16 years ago, this was reduced to 12s. 6d ; next reduction was to 10s., next to Ss., and then to 7s. The total expenditure of the Company for the respective years 1843 to 1846 inclusive, was £60,112. The witness was not prepared to say what exnenses had wasin operation in 1842, but then no reduction took'place until 1844, when they were forced to reduce by the pow- Lcurrea in worKs oeyona the Parliamentary borough. -erao - e rental of metres for the year 1845, was £667, ucting bac 19.6 until another year had elai The Com for the tenants, and in 1846 the profit On this item was £594. In 1844, and again in 1845 the Guardian Gas Company went to Parliament ; and :the Recorder sug gested a reduction in the former year, which was com- April, 1844, came the price of gas to 6s dian Company persevered in thei _ plied with, the price being reducd to 4s. 6d. per 1000 feet. which was a loss. We cannot produce gas at that ment it would be ruinous to sell it ; and still, in the face of all this, it was found expedient to make a further re duction to 4s. 6d., the price at which they now took their stand,—thus presenting to the public a most anomalous sort of speculation, for they virtually said that they were price, and are several thousands short, in consequence, in our dividends. The average dividend on the whole capi _ _ Mr. CROOK. an accountant, said he had examined the plying ga could not afford the gas at 4s. 6d., and (as we understood him), that £4924 had to be taken from the reserved futd, but by a reduction stated the loss was reduced to £2483. unug to nna tne merchants of Liverpool doing ! And in order to meet the difficulty, they wished to double their capital—double their trade, and still sell at the ruinous prices ! The question appeared to him si m ply t o b e , that tie cud not think 4s. 6d. a paying price, and the increase of consumption within the borough could alone make up the deficiency. he guarc Crosbie) gave interesting statistics of the comparative population in each in 1841 and in 1846. The total of the However, he would briefly state what they (t ivardian whole nine townships was 123,984. He also gave the number and rateable value of the houses, which from 1841 had increased from 3128 houses to 5212 ; and in value fram £77,317 to £114,052. I their gas at 3;. Bd. per 1000 feet, and still to maintain the dividends at 10 per cent. The gas which Mr. Carson said cost the present company 2s. 9cl. at prime cost, he would prove to their satisfaction could be produced at much less. He would prove they could light the public lamps at £3. 10s. Bd., instead of the price --£4. 2s. 6d., Mr. SHAW, overseer of Everton, and Mr. PARNELL, overseer of Kirkdale, and EILBECK, of Walton, also fur nished statistics, showing a great increase in the number and Mr. Booth as regarded Litherland. Mr. H. WALKER said that in the parish of Liverpool there were of rateable houses and buildings in 1841, 36,860; in 1846, 42,106,—rateable amount in 1841, £857,059 ; and in 1846, £1,021,089. Mr. ALFRED KING, of the Old Gas Company, was next examined at great length, and gave his testimony in a very clear and lucid manner, as to the quantity of gas made by the company, &c. It appeared that in 1844 the- Ade 153 milß -old in 1- the case in the hands of the court at that preliminary stage of the proceedings. lie proposed to have 71 per cent. of a oona ficte interest, to have 3s. Bd. the thousand feet the bona fide price to private consumers, to have the public lamps supplied at the bona fide cost of £3. 10s. Bd., and to have a bona fide capital for their company. Mr. M`DoNli,n, the secretary of the 'Guardian Gas Company, was then called, and examined by Mr. SWIFT, mac._ cubic feet of gas, and in 1845, ii mt, lion feet, an increase of 241 millions. In 1846 they made 2111 millions-13eing an average increase on these years of 17 38-100ths. The quhntity of gas required would be doubled in 41 years, and trebled in 7 years. Taking the estimates altogether, £151,981 would be required within was cross-examined at considerable 'length, by both Mr. CARSON and Mr. LLOYD, after which the court adjourned till this morning 'at ten o'clock. IRISH PAUPERISM IN LIVERPOOL five years from this ate for extensions, It was stated at the last meeting of the Selesi ime afterwards issistant Poor-law Commission required for stations, extensions, &c. Witness, in reply to a question, said the company had now to call for £150,180. They had already about 150 miles of mains laid. The largest were 12-inch bore, (witness described the whole from 12-inch to 11-inch, traversing the streets, with the respective miles). The waste or unaccounted for gas was about 10 per cent. in the pipes, &c. Of the £200,000 now sought to be raised, £50,000 would be dis _ posa had prepared a plan, with a view to the prevention of im posture upon the parish, by which the town was to be di vided into convenient districts, and relief administered to parties applying for relief at their own homes. For this service twenty-four suitable men were picked out of the police force, to whom the task of visiting was committed. We believe the result has been so far successful, that many cases of deception have been found out, and the parties practising it deprived of further opportunity of be industry and The num , er of persons re companies injuriot ;ht the an that r [eyed -(1 Guardian Company mistaken in supposing that the ex tension of his (witness's) company would be injurious. ing the preceding week. Yet the saving in money will be found to be small. This is to be accounted for by the fact that whilst the relieving officers of the Select Vestry have taken down the number of the family of each applicant_ generally exaggerated with a view to procure an increased o uantity of rationsand:soup tickets, —they have exercised a panies, but had declined to do so from the great expense, Of 1364 streets in Liverpool, 1006 were lighted with gas, The charge for each public gaslight or street lamp was £4 2s. 6d., except the lamps: The coal used iu making the gas was exclusively cannel coal, and now cost 15s. a ton, or nearer 15s. 6d. A ton of this produced 9,600 discretion as to the cases in which such exaggeration ap peared likely to be resorted to, and given their relief ac cordingly. _ The actual working of the new system will be coke, which wils sold at 10s. a ton. Mr. KING, in reply to a question from Mr. Evans, said the number of private lamps in the town did not exceed A. man 14, paying not more than I'2o per annum. Mr. MILLER was then called and re-examined. He stated in reply to the 26th requirement, that the cost of the pre. That included lands, buildings, general and branch pipes. The lands alone cost the buildings £20,975 Is. Id. ' • the £47,473 15s. ld. ; gas metres 4.20,01 and branch pipes £107,879 19. penses £4031 16s. 4d. parliamentary ex- What I have given you includes the Mr. thigoN.—Well, will you now give us the original expenditure of the Company ? Mr. MILLER. - The buildings cost £20,285 6s. Bd. ; £10,47925. 9d. ; mains and branch pipes, £83,902 18s. ld parliamentary expenditure, £728 17s. 4d. ; making a total of £193,190 7s. Mr. ELLISON.—Now as to the annual expenditure ? Mr. MILLED.—As regards the income and expenditure for last year, the income from all sources was £44,683 14s. ;;;dwitiireference to the expenditure, I will give the con tracts and the manufactures separate. The cost of and the manufacture of the article, come to £22,914 18s. e charge wag, to the particulM. class Or item to which s it belt wear and tear, that is the nem y repairs to be made in he works, the cost last year w The next the head of general expenditure, which amounted to £4319 45., making a total of £29,582 Bs. 11d. Mr. ELLISON.— You have made no estimate of the annual income and expenditure under the new act ? Mr. MILLER. —That will depend on circumstances. The rate may be reduced by the recorder, when it reaches above a certain amount. Mr. ELLisox-.--4-17at is the maximum of the rate ? Mr. MILLER. -It can be reduced by the recorder after it reaches 4s. 6d. in the pound. Mr. ELLISON.—Then your dividends are limited ? Yes, sir. Mr. EVANS then stated that he had a few observations to make on the bill which was then before them. He represented on the pres'ent occasion, as he had done on several previous occasions, the consumers of gas within the borough of Liverpool. He should render but com mon justice to the company to whom he was opposed, when he stated that he had received from them every kindness and accommodation in their power to afford him. Every account and any information they had called for had been willingly given ; but still there was a limit 13( N mu which he could not; if he could help it, allow them o go. According to the 4th Vic., ch. 2, and sec. 8, this nmpany was for the first time restricted in the amount of interest they were to raise of their capital ; and accord ing to the 23d clause of the same it was enacted that any justice might examine a witness on oath touching the truth of their accounts, and id such a witness should swear, and distinctly prove that the income of the com pany exceeded 10 per cent. per annum, it should be in the power of such justice to make a fair and equitable reduction in the price of gas. They bad it in evidence that the capital of the company at present amounted to £264,000, of which £200,000 was producing interest ; and, in addition to that sum, they now sought for £200,000 more. £lOO,OOO of which was also to bear in- I IMPO terest at the rate of 10 per cent. There was also another company in existence, the capital of which amounted to DEFEAT OF TH £167,000, a great portion of which bore interest at 10 MACDONELL. per cent. also ; and while he was on the subject of capital, (From Yesterday's Morning Herald.) it would be vain for him to close his eyes to the fact that The Iberia, Oriental and Peninsular Company's steam- , a third company was also in the field with capital to the ship, Captain Meehan, arrived on Saturday with the usual amount of £133,000, so he thought that, taken altogether, Peninsular mails. there Li ver was pool no lack of ca comm pital to produce the gas for th of Com- e people The Iberia brings n ews o f th e t o t a l d e f eat of the Migue of . Thecommittee of House lite portion of the rebel army, under General Macdonell, mons, when the Guardian Gas Company were before them, at Soborosa, and the death of the general, who has been endeavouring to compel the two existing companies to hewn down by one of the Queen's troopers. The only amalgamate, did not think proper to either force them to information respecting this affair is contained in the fol amalgamation or to give that company their bill. If they lowing communication, which was forwarded from Oporto had compelled them to do so, it would.tave required less just as the Iberia was leaving : capital to supply the to wn an d di s t r i c t w i t h t h e necessary " fount of gas ; but no att em pt h a d b een ma d e by either Oporto, Feb. 2. " The Miguelites in Tras-os-Montes have been corn nnpany, so far as he co u ld l earn , t o accomplish that pletely dispersed by Vinhaes and Lapa, General Macdo ) also, although it was nell being' killed, and many other chiefs, at Saborosa, King, that the present above Villa Poua d'Agmar." 3 boundary of the nar- T • VrANT FROM THE PENINSIITLA IGDELITES AND DEA.TII OF Gg/TED,AL near rrom private sources, that this unexpected defeat • ~-e ntiiry liorough, would have realised a greater amount has somewhat alarmed the rebels concentrated in Oporto, •= • • fit than they have done by extending.their exertions although it has in no wise damped their a'idotir for the `hn districts surrounding the town. If the clause to forthcoming struggle. Ev er y poss ibl e preparation was 4 was not a delusion altogether, its effect being made to give the - Queen's troops a warm reception. fortifications werebeing prosecuted with all _ ; and all capable of bearing arms "au enrolled themselves, and were ready for the conflict sought for, the Clay never would come wlen the public that will decide the fate of thousands. The last accounts would enjoy a reduction in the price of gas. If the exor- from Saldanha were, that his quarters were at Agueda, bitant demand of an additional capital of £200,000 were about 30 miles' from Coimbra, and therefore it was un to be now acceded to, he would ask what.guarantee they likely that `-aPp..., -the strongest and also to fix their dividends within a circum scri b e d exp e diti on an d V—. 44' 1 - _ _ early as s at first anticipated. I am just informed that a decree is to appear in a day or two, taking off the double decima from the foreign sufficiently largeforall . their 1 d e bt This it .1 justified in seeking new capital for the extension of their The Cork Examiner says that some of the men em works when they had made no attempt to carry into effect ployed on the public roads, after a fortnight's delay, have the suggestion of the committee of the House of Commons been paid Is. for one week's wages, and the other week's with respect to the amalgamation of the two companies. was left unpaid. Is there any wonder that people die of He would say, in conclusion, that for the purposes for starvation ? which they sought this sum of £200,000 there was not The Rev. :Charles Welsh, curate of Clones, county the slightest data before the court to entitle them to Monaghan, begs to acknowledge, with most sincere and recieve it, grateful thanks, the receipt of £lO on t h e 24th Jan. and Mr. ELLisoN.—Do you wish to ca ll an y w it nesses , Si r ? £lO on the 31st Jan., remitted to him by the St. Jude's Mr. EVANS.—No, Sir. - Irish Reli e f C omm it tee. on behalf .i• +1,,,. ‘.4-.....__:_ Mr S Tirm 4 - hork rnoo rAml oni ri 441...4. i. rs ...,,,,,1,1 ...4.... ----- le parish of Clones. The celebrated marriage of Mr. H. A. Browne, of Dub daughter of Mr. Copeland, manager of the Royal i Bank in that town, has been annulled by the Dublin . . Court of Delegates ; the court being of opinion that the .... onuTTLE WORTH said that he appeared on behalf I of the Town Council, to watch the inquiry. In his oP- case of Mr. Browne was a concocted one, and founded 'tion however, he would be strictly guid i e i d by .,, w12 , o n perjury and corruption. posi , ...: —:._.i.,. 1-..1,... -1- .1.--: A., ng• poor of ++.5. , " , ......., p.a.,,, tau' It's /11G I.IIU,GGUILISO• 11, ~., ..‘'. in me nouse of commons on Friday, Colonel Sibthorp wish to have it understood that he came there to oppose gave notice," that if no more competent member would b any party , formally ; but just to watch the course of the bring in a Bill for the better regul a ti on of Railways, he con g a en inquiry. should on an early day move for leave to brin in a ensa Bill Mr. LLOYD and Mr. CARSON stated th a t th e y res pect- to compel Railway Companies to give ample co ively appeared on beh a lf o f th e ex i s ti ng compan i es , t o op- to the survivors of those persons who should have lost pose the Guardian Gas Company. their lives by accidents on railways. Mr. SWIFT then proceeded to state, that the bill which Intsx RELIEF.—What is to be the end of it F The he had charge of was a bill for lighting the borough and last week witnessed the introduction of three Irish m cessary tea townshipo o read the f Liverpool with; but he . He mi did not ght state think that the it ne- sures, invol v i ng an out l ay o f some £23,000,000, besides i promoters of this bill were the consumers of gas in Liver extras. What is thi s wee k to d eve l op ? Expectation is clauseson the qui vire. There are three Houses of Assembly pool, and they required powers to raise £130,000 of capi- sitting simultaneously, one in St; Stephen's, another in tar for that. purpose. He would go through all the re - Palace-yard, and a third in Dublin, all inspired with a quirements, en which he would give the most ample evi- miraculous unanimity of extravagance.—nmes. dence, but he would nqt trouble them with any length- On Saturday the Rev. M. A. Gathereole and his bro ened statement. He would not follow Mr. Carson through ther were acquitted at the New Court, London, of the what he had stated with reference to his case. It had charge of having obtained a considerable sum of money by been said, and much stress had been laid on that view of false pretences. The defendants believed the prosecutor the case, that the limitation made in the powers of the had had something to do with a fraud practised on them, company, in 1844, were quite well calculated to rectify all and by a stratagem induced him to advance a large sum evils which might previously have existed in the working of money ; y but as soon as they discovered their mistake of this company ; but, like most fine parliamentary ar- ter, ~,,...,,a 4i.— erefore, withdrew the indictment. THE POOR LAW COMMISSION AND THE WORCESTER _ _ -The Poor Law Commissioners have intimated Lii.L tuff ,ound out for the first time that theyofficially to the guardi ans o f t h e poor of the Worcester y could afford to sell 6d. per Union that it is thei r i n t en ti on to send down to that gas to the public at the reduced price of 6s . arnion an assistant commissione r f or the purpose of inves- Then it was found that this miracu- rigating the charges of irregularity, &c., against the -scluce any farther salutary effect, governor, Mr. Longstreeth, whose resignation the com led, when , the Guardian missioners recently instructed the guardians to call for le went to Parliament in and accept, but which the latter body tacitly declined to and immediately down do. The charges are of an extraordinary nature. &gain, when the Guar- A meeting of the Irish party took place in London on undertaking, down Saturday. Lord Monteagle took the chair, and six other noblemen and twenty-four members of parliament were ' present. Among them were the Marquis of Sligo and Earl of Mountcashel, two O'Connells, G. A. Hamilton, Esq., &c. The government measure for relieving Ireland was discussed, and several members declared themselves opposed to the clauses of the bill, and the majority ap -^,•Pci anxious to obtain some modification of all its pro UNION I visions ARE PUSEYITE BOOKS NECESSARY FOR A STUDENT FOR THE CHURCH ?—This question came before the Court of Exchequer on "Saturday, in a trial brought by a . they must be labouring under some mistake when they bookseller against a student for the church. Among the thought of submitting such a proposition to the public. b oo ks were I" Newman's Sermons," a Roman missal, a They must be under such a mistake as they had been Roman breviary, Pusey's Senn- " 7 "--d' s r - labouring under all along, from the time they charged The young man became a Roy , - • it 11111f1 Adeal, &c. Catholic, and his father we books. The Lord Chief ~i isidering the books su p p li e d were necessary or a young man studying for the Ch urc h o f E ng l an d , was of opinio n th a t th e defendant could not be held liable for them, and irmsuited the plaLtiff. Plaintiff nonsuitd.. PRESENTATION PLATE.--A, service of plate, to be pre sented to Mr. Houldsworth, the chairman of the Man chester and Leeds Railway Company, by th e di rector 3,. has been just manuf ac t ure d. The service weighs up war d s of 3,000 ounces, and is of excellent desien mut). iHe principal piece is or an ornamental character, being of a triangular form ; around th e l ower par t are figures of Sir Roert Peel, Watt, and Mr. George Ste phenson ; the whole is surmounted by a figure represent ing Science. On one of the panels is a representation in relief of Summit Tunnel. There are also some very elaborate vases. The advices from Alexandria of the 20th ult. describe an active market for most descriptions of goods. Grain and cotton were the two leading articles commanding at tention. Maize had been purchased in large quantities for shipment to England. A scarcity of vessels and the high rates of freight are circumstances still complained of as operating injuriously upon business. The cotton crop is PCHMAted to be much under an average. One cultiva , whose grounds have, hitherto, yielded 18,000 to "' 'his year not preserve more than e have caused ISSING BASE COIN was brought up at th charged 1 Police-court, yesterday, and re Mr. Rushton with passing base shilling for A glass of ale, which he He had scarcely gone out, leairh llcann nyttorna t 1 . b. 116 uv VIIIIII,I/ .ILLG uci house and perpetrated the same trick was not noticed in time by the As the matter servant who received the Ld take no notice of the On Saturday last, the fellow had t occurrence dacity to return, with the view of •• repeating Lin; mnsv, when he was taken into custody ; but as the landlord al lowed the shilling to pass out of his hands for a few mi nutes, and as he could not state whether it might not then have been changed, the prisoner got the benefit of the doubt, and lie was discharged. OVERGROWN PARISHES. - We cannot quit the subject le of bishops without remarking, that excel- lent as it is, a vast' If our overgrown division, what is to 1 es ? We have now aho in England, containing f in each ! I bishop, and were ( Wal minister i Yet wha lis,forty churche 'wenty.—Herald, )suraity EXTRAORDINARY INQUEST, YESTERDAY.—An inquest was held yesterday before Mr. Curry, on view of the body ' • of James 15OliZ, aseam aa on hoard the American ship Swatara, recently arrived at this.port. On the Ist inst., the deceased was taken into the receiving ward at the Workhouse, and then complained of being very ill. He had a lump on the back of his head, and said be had been ill-treated by the captain of the ship, and was hurt by the sheet-anchor; He mentioned to one of the nurses in the Infirmary that he had been dragged out of the forecastle by the captain while at sea, and struck his bead against the anchor, which subsequently produced an abcess. From a written statement made by deceased at the In firmary, under the then impression of approaching death, he stated that the captain had kept him on deck for a long time in the cold. The surgeon of the Workhouse stated that deceased died from natural causes. Deceased had been ill with ague and fever during the voyage. It appeared from the evidence that the captain and first officer paid him great attention on the passage to restore his health, but that, in spite of advice, he neglected and exposed himself to the weather, imperfectly clothed. Medicine was also given to him by order of the captain, and it appeared from the whole of the evidence, that no imputation whatever could be attached to the captain or any of the officers of the_ship. Deceased said thnt h. Ile belonged to Plymouth. The case was adjourned until to morrow, for the purpose of bringing up the log-book, and also one of the seamen as a witness, none of the crew or the captain being present in the court. The deceased was unable to do any, duty to speak of during the voyage, and had stated to the mate of the ship that he believed he could not recover from disease of the liver. The ship came from New Orleans. tor alone, all the mischief ALARMING ILLNESS OF SIR JOHN GLADSTONE, BART. —We are informed that accounts have been received from Scotland which conveyed intelligence of the serious ill ness of Sir John Gladstone, Bart., at Fasque, the vener able baronet's seat, in Kincardineshire. We learn that a few weeks back Sir John was seized with an attack of pa ralysis, and was recovering, when. on Monday last, he was enabled to take carriage exercise. On the following day (Tuesday) he experienced another paralytic stroke more serious than the previous attack, and it is now feared that he will be unable to sustain the severity of the re lapse. The Right Hon. W. E. Gladstone, and the other summoned to Fasqu their venerated father leeted baronet's family, have been by the dangerous indisposition of .—Morning Herald of yesterday. FASHIONABLE RESTAURANT and SUPPER LNGE, 17 CLAYTON-SUARE. Those who OU have not , yet visited the Q ORIENTAL DIVAN 'should not omit an opportunity; for the arrangements not only surpass those of every similar Hotel, but the viands are of the ,choicest kinds. An exc e ll en t S teak, cut in the London style, is 'charged 9d., and it may be finished with a half-pint of splendid Amontillado Sherry, or fine-flavoured Port, for One Shilling. The Oriental has been flattered by the following notices from lour local Press : The elegance with w hi c h i t i s fitted, the promptitudedodoubt t the pro mises which Feeny makes to the ear he will, unlike Macbeth's riety, orl lowness reputation lzilbi°'z of the pr opr i etor as a caterer; Itconsolidates of charges . tie for the public.—llail. Suitable to all classes; the wine is undeniable.—Times. BILL OF FARE AT THE FASHIONABLE RESTAURANT, For THIS DAY, the 9t TH h, M W and IS DAY . TO-ORRO, the 10/hinst. SOUPS. Hare, Mock Turtle, Gravy, and Mutton Broth. One o'clock • Soles, Codfish, and Whiting. —Boiled Beef, Roast Pork, Veal and Han —Beef Steak Pie, Boiled Leg of Mutton. Four o'clo, Fire o'cloc N.-narricot Mutton, Roast Beef. Turkey and Oyster Sauce. Shoulder of Mutton, and Roast Lamb, Tarts and Puddings. TO-MORROW Gravy, Oxtail, Mutton Broth, and Mock Turtic FISH. One o'clock num atutton, Veal and Ham. —Roast Beef, Boiled Fowl and'Ham -Roast Lamb, Pigeon Pie. Ilaunch of Mutton. Pancakes, Tarts; and Puddings f-pint of Fine Amontillado Sherry, or full. Is. ; Pint, 25.: Quart, 4s. Cup of Coffee, 4d. ; with Toast or Muffin, Gd Plain Tea or Coffee, Is. Ladies will find the Restaurant a most respectable House to call at for Refreshment. • Three o'clock Codfish, Soles, and Haddock. Roast Turkey, Calves' Head and Bacon, Roast Pork. Four o'clock Five o'clock '.-flavoured Port, London Oysters received daily, 7s. 6d. per barrel, or Is. dd. per score. Tile following are the opinions of the Press:— CELEBRITY OF THE LONDON OYSTERS. The acknowledged superiority of the London Oysters, and the difficulty of obtaining them regularly even in this great commercial town, has indueed the Proprietor to arrange with! one of the first Fishmongers of Billingsgate, from whom he daily receives AN ABUNDANT SUPPLY OF TDB NATIVF:S ; but as all the Liverpool journals have eulogised them, Mr. F. sub wits their recommendation rather than his own. "A dish of the finest Oysters we ever remember to have seen ! or tasted; we can honestly recommend them."-2fercury. " We can saf e l y vouch for their fine condition and excellent flavour; better cannot certainly be had in London or else where."—Standard. " We recommend our friends to pay the Divan a visit, and judge of the Oysters by their size, freshness, and delicious fla-i "Our brethern of the press, however they may be divided in' their opinion on other subjects, give their testimony una-, nimonsly in favour of Mr.Feeny's excellent London Oysters."' ---Albion. "The lovers of this fine shell-fish can now procure it of, splendid quality at the Oriental Divan, Clayton-square."-1 Standard. LIVERPOOL : TUESDAY; FEBRUARY 9, 1847. PRINTED AND PUBLISHED* EVERY TUESDAY MORNING, JOSHUA FLETCHER LACE, of 53, Grove street, and LEONARD ADDISON, of 14, Great Orford-street. At No. 4, ST. GEORGE'S CRESCENT, LIVERPOOL. second —raratna,l O'Callagl TO-MC FTIMR ENTERI - PRICES 2.8 . 6d. Years of I The B o Doors to I comp Adn the Sole Less( r riIIS -I. ands On TM FUNDS fc Ject, tie IV arrangem( fxpenciitui it impossil night's ex' , out extens fore, to se4 HALF TE Fund, whi half on the the necests the same p Doors or menee at Side lloxe Price, 1%. lIUMA CON THis instan a POPUL) fus 'esPely ecial re lus DI interesting invited. Body of ti to and M 'of Member MOYs. 1;1 • hiS Of _ erpOC ,A VAL I 4C K NOW 1 111Viat ?e N it S co l 11 7 E 1 i n t ri Cal Eni phn of tiatinAtilr 188 cluri It( it s ri g her not c an n engagi thisnnt avoic momen to nlY, which treat Coinpc M. JuLLI ,ecmolete tht , Cavatina .l elocties of 1 'rith Orchest Authors. .Notwithsh -Miss B I R The Pr ONlZurri, 1110 'V s tioNS. Pi SIG. CIOI POT t. ors op e ight. ~Tick ets to % l urch-st ree 'rrY-street kpopu ence, w (i e ;,`t, the 22d 14 - v. r,g l e-stree' til ,e 81' 1 : JTA I I e Lectu i ulagrams I also b ex or ARTIFIC variety of I.e Tickets—l 3 *had of the I Et . .OII.I3NTER, W. M. 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