The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1838-01-26 00:00:00

JANUARY 26 N:;8 Mr. Blackburn-sat down amidst loud, applause. 'rtie Tow N.-CLERK then read the following resolution and pe itjr"Mr. Blackburn, ac follows: — "That petitions be presented to both lionSes:of parliament, praying For the abolition of , the apprenticeship system in ill the British coletiles, that the members for the lioron4h be'reqnsted hi present the smite to the Commons, that the Earl of•Deritylie requested to pi esent the slime to the Lords, and that the follow ing be the petition:— • " Sitoweth,—That your•petitiouers, in common with the coun try generally,.regarili;tl the abolition act of 1833 as designed by the itnperialparnament to provide the means ornumediate re-liel and progressive ituproveMent to the negroes in the British colonies. • . "'That your petitioners regret to find that the said act has been proved; - by official and accumulated evidence,. to have lie- Come, in the hands •of the administrators, an instrument of cruelty and 'misrule ; and, that by colonial statutes some of the worst features - of slavery, with great agaraeations, though under a milder name, are still permitted toexist. "':hat the apprenticed labourers 'are not allowed adequate maintenance; that the privileges nominally conferred upon them have not been duly enjoyed; that the it hip is still severely used; that the flogging of women is still practised, in manifest and flagrat&Vit'ilation of the spirit:of the abolition act, and the recorded intention of its projeetors. " That no sufficient protection has ever been afforded to the faithful speciatnbegistrates, in the fair and conseientious admi- • nistratiou of justice between the empleyer and the apprentice. " That your petitioners are apprehensive thattio such altera tion or ameadment of • the said act 'Can be 'tirade as will obviate the evils resulting from the enactments of colonial -assemblies, or render it beneficial to the neve ;. and that any act which does not c anter upon hint entire emancipation will assurediy furnish occasions of injustice and oppression. "That as the slaveholders have received the sum of twenty . millions sterling to repair any less which they might suffer from the projected change, and as the conditions en. which the grant was. made - have been systematically violated, in despite of the imperial legislature and the repeated remonstrances of colonial governors, your petitioners areasiititled to seek the immedia te liberation 'of the negroes front every species of thraldom. "Yuur petitioners, therefore,earnestly implore your honorable house to pass a law for the entire abolition of the apprenticeship system, and the deliverance of the negroes in our colonies front every vestige Of bondage On the Ist of August, 1833. "And your petitioners Will ever pray," &c. Mr. Councillor Junta C aaapa „ b e gged leave to second the resolution. - Ile did so being full p e rsuaded that every senti ment that:Mr. Bla c kb urn had uttered could be substantiated oil official documeuti; ' • Mr. Councillor G. - H. La wessiest•rose to oppose the petition on account Of its irregularity for discussion there, awl also be cause he was - interested in the ive:ifa . re of the colonies—not only because he was connected with them, • but because he was anxious for the prosperity of the begin, stud also because he felt it incumbent on him to protest against discussions of that nature in that council, for it did Seeni to him that if every indi vidual came forward with subjects of that kind, not appertain ing to the town, there would' be 'n6 - end to theni. Discussions on " vote by ballot," " extension` . fif,bußrage,", awl " anrusl Parliaments," might be brought on, and that Council might be' transferred into a' mere frothy, frivolous debating society. He honoured the feelings of those who had introduced the subject iu this town, and Amongst them numbered some of . his best friends; but he did think they might turn their philanthropy to better account in those places where slavery really existed in all its horrible barbarity—to Cuba, to the .Brazils, and to the United States,. and endeavour to present the traffic of slaves rather than attempt to interfere with and upset the abelitiou act and infringe ..a solemn compact with the nation. Surely they were'not in earnest in expecting that any success would attend their . agitatien of this question—an aoitation which even Mr. F o well Lluetou repudiated •and the Edinburgh Review dis countenanced,' though it did not condemn. was free to confess that it might have the effect of showing the•colonial legislature that the eyes of, this country were 'timid it—that thou g h it had done much in a state of great difficulty and ex citement more was eaperaed from is, and that equal and not iu - operative laws must prevail = that protection for all parties was demanded front this country. Still, this adVantage, if it were One, lie was - of opiniou, would be more than cottaterbalancedly the spirit of and diseonteut• it might engender in the minds of labourers towards their. employers. He knew the abolition act had been of -benefit. to the planter, and of still greaterbenefit to the slave and he believed without the apprentice ship syitern before freedom idleness would have taken the place of induStry and perseverance, whichavere becoming more and more apparent. He thought it too much to ask pat liament to Interfere in the system which was. working satisfactorily to the planter and beneficially to the neginee, on the .strength of the representations of a few individuals. It was the opinion of many, he did not give it as his own, that the negkies were better off 1 ?w-than they w er e lik e ly t o b e w h en th e y were free in 1810. He concluded with proposing the following resolution, as an amendment :—" That this .co.uncil looks forward with satisfac :lou toentire - extinction of slavery in the Britisticolouies as de ermined by the emancipation act, and sees no reason to in terfere-now with its provisions.") Mr. Alderman SCANSHANU seco - yed the amendment. He con tended that the negro would be benefited. by emancipation, yet it would have the contrary effect if it came upon him too sud denly.' People did not immediately give freedom to their chil dren, but made apprentices of them. He thought it would sip. Pear presumptuous iu the - Council,. to get up and tell • the goveranteut that they were in error; that what they had decreed should take place in 1840, the Town Council or Liverpool wished to have done in 1833.• " If they went on, the effect of this agitation would be to set master and negro in opposition. It would be touch more wise to Booth than to irritate. The coal , position which had been so much spoken of. was hut a poor compensation in a pecuniary point of view, for he had known in dividuals who were impoverished by the change which had taken Place:' It was said ttiat.the 20 millions had been given for nothing, and that it bed also been given on certain conditions. If so,' the blaMe rested on those who had taken su much money out of the people's pockets- for - nothing.. Mr. Couueillor Cultic's: said that the-Council had not taken up the subject, but it had been forced upon the general atteution of then and of the country, and it was' impossible for 'any indi vidual to leek on without feeling intensely. He did nut know however bow far the Council.,auelit to. go in a matter of this na - - • e ture.• He drought" inquiry: ought to be made respecting the frauds alleged to have been committed, andthat for the remain ing two years the law ought to be strictly enforced. If Mr. I3lackburn could- modify -- his- resolution dowu tothis.pOint, he "rid be happy to go bad Alderman accordance with what to after h rne t faile d from Mr.-Currie. He wished Mr.. Lawrence so his • dineut that it should urge the government to enforce the fulfilineni . of the contract for tine ne xt.two years. hl ! ;COuncillor G. 11. LAWRENCE and Mr. SH AND acquiesced and A ! tired f or the purpose of altering the aineudinent. r. Coun c ill or D a v i d H o oGsoN : sup p or t e d Mr. Blackburn's resol ution. lie contended that nothing had. heeashewn to prove t hat the apprenticeship system Was any amelioration of the ''sves' conditiou and - at-all -fitted_ him for. perfect freedom, but on the contrary t h at h e w ou ld- b e as un fitted or. more so at the te rmination of his attprenticeship as if ernan . cip.ted at once. • Mr. Councillor t. IL: La!whaNcu here returned .with his altered amendment to the.following • • at this council 400 ks forward with satisfaction to the en tire extinction of slavery iii the British colonies, as determined, by . the em a n c ip a ti on act of 1833, and feels bound to call upori the government t o see th at none of i ts prov i s i ons are i n any wa y violated." Mr. Alderman BROWN was notsattsfied with the amendment. Mr. Councillor 'PLATT supported the motion and cougratula ted the council on the altered tone of public feeling oil this subject within the-last half century. Mr. Alderman SthEL supported the motion. He thought the amendment not improved by the alteration. He contended that it was a subject very fitting ,for the council to debate on. That council was to take into consideration all matters of local importance and a question in which the payment of 20 millions was a question fitting to be taken up by one of the greatest commercial communities in the world. He contended in re ply to Mr. Shand that 20 millions was ample compensatiou. £here were about 800,000 slaves including the aged and children and 20 millions of money paid for these was equal to £25. for each slave, robust, and infirm which he contended was a very handsome equivalent. It was very goad advice to tell them to go to Cuba, the Brazils and the United States; it was "go where you like, only leave the aloue." Mr. Councilor BOLTON supported the motion. Mr. Councillor COGL AN rose in Support of the motion. He said his remarks would have - this novelty attached to them, compared with the speakers that had gone before him that they would be brief. Mr. Ceglau then in exemplification of brevity spoke for a quarter of an hour on the saute points as his pre decessors. Mr. Alderman Eva Ns said when he gave a pledge of brevity he would keep it better than his friend had done (a laugh). lie thought if the. , CoUncil went to Parlianieut tor, frequeutiv, and when the occasion did not appear to call for it, they might injure their immediate interests. He should wish to see a good amendment offered, otherwise he should vote for- Mr. Blackburn's tiotion. They ought to look upon the twenty millions of money paid and the time of the negroes as it bargain. It seemed wrong to ask for - a remission of two years of tithe from the planterswitheut offering compensation for it. If they did not do so they would be inflicting innumerable private wrongs. He thought if they were to urge a partial manumis sion, whenever the planters violated the laws, Parlianieut Would meet their views. Mr. Alderman Buowls proposed a. second amentment to the follewing effect: •` That petitions be presented to both houses of Parliament, l effectually that such measures may be devised and adopted as secure the protection relief, and benefit to the negro, really intended by the apprenticeship plan of 18.33 • • future violation. Or, that if itshall I • against any appear in Parliament that such security against future vi o l a ti on cauuot b e effected the, that an act may be'pasSeefor •the tietermin,ation of the whole . apprenticeship:`gystem; 'and • the •absoluW.a•bolitiort of slavery upon the Ist of August,lB3B." • Mr. Alderman LEaTHOM was sorry to 'hear /Ilr. Blackburn make some of th e statement he had done. He had oppor tunity of seeing th e papers of some estates in. the West Indies, 4: and could, therefore, speak to the facts .of their management. Ile denied that the master had the power ur making the ap prentice work 45 consecutive hours without incurring the dis pleasure of the governor, and bein g fined by the law. As to the food, the cooki t , was mad e rea dy f ur the labourers, as it always had been, and tile returns gave the number of cooks employed. As to the edu ca ti on , and religious instruction .of the appren tices,' he could only say that schools Were provided, and that there was a chapel on the estate, of which he particularly spoke,' where a friend of his had seen 1200 negroes regularly and de voutly assembled as iu any chapel in England. If Mr. Black burn was - aware of any isolatett cases of wrong, he should not visit the while of the planters with their fault. Mr. Councillor liarasnaN read an extract from Lord Sligo's report, 'to prove that abuses against the law existed iu the colonies. Mr- Councillor BLACKBURN replied at considerable length, when Mr. Aldetnian EVANS tendered in the resolution he had thought or moving. as a third ainendtnent to the following effect. 'That petitioits be adopted, concluding with a prayer, that an act may be passed that will grant emaucipation forthwith in every case in which the act of 1.833 shall be found to be violated -such emancipation extending to all slaves upon the plauta dim ur ekewhere, the property of the offending platiter." The MAYOR went to the division, when the following were the results • • Mr. G. H. Lawrence's amendment-7 for, 40 . against. Mr. Brown's , amondment-15 for, 34 agaiust. Mr. Evans's amendment-15 for, 31 agaiust. The original inotion-42 for, 7 against. The original motion was carried. by a majority of 35. - The next 'question for discussion stood iu summons as fol. love : " The . by . -laWs made under the 99th section of the municipal torporation act of 5 and 6 Wm. 4, c. 76, as they now stand, in Consequence of the Liverpool amendment act of last session, As hereby most of such by-laws are superceded; and the grope: t 1 KO, therefore, amending and simplifying the local code." They were referred to the Finance Committee, and the coon .cil broke up at a / past three o'clock. Ou the Arrival of th.. Dower mail-coach at the Elephant • and Cast), on Sat', rda } morning, .an outside passenger, a poor,mau, was tVond it ,LCU iu death. ANDREW HALLIDAY ON THE WEST INDIA QUESTION. . . To the E d itor of the Dwmfries Gulkray.Courier., . Stu,—Lhave read with simile attention, and ant salty to add, with deep regret, he letters Which have appeared- in the Courier, freer the pen of my old and most esteemed friend, Dr. Duncan, of Rethweil, no "the; West India Apprenticeship System." That. a Clergyman lof the Doctor's good sense, Anil jedgritent, nil high cliareater, should lend the sanction of his name to the circulation of reports, in every instance grossly .exaggerated, and, in many; utterly false, has surprised rue not a little, Mot the emore' especially as the Rev. Doctor appears t,' be perfectly ioneratitof the true bearing of the ques tion on. which he ,has written. It may be possible that in Ja maica some. irregularities have taken place,-and sonic cruelties have been practiced. but I can assure you, sir, that, even in that colony, they could neither be so frequent or so continued, unless, indeed, all the authorities were asleep, and the law totally disregarded. That this,: however, is not altogether the case, we have proof in a trial that. lately took place in the island, Where ail apprenticed labourer recovered thirty pounds damages against the keeper of a house of correction for'putting him to hard lahoui when the sentence of the magistrate was simply ineprisonment. I have no reason to speak well of West India planters. They persecutedane with a rancour that perhaps neser was equalled, because they supposed that I was one of their enemies—my character having• preceded me as a bumble philantropist, and my zeal, like Dr. Duncan's having out-run discretion. A most horrid instance of cruelty and barbarity was detailed to me in a manlier most eh cunistantial, by a cler gYaran of great worth, and long experience too, in the colonies. He had the details from the staring individual in a public prison, and they were in a great measure confirmed by the keeper of the prison. The object of their being mentioned to me, was to get an investigation ordered from the colonial off i ce (with. which it was known 1 corresponded), as it was said the local authorities wished to screen the guilty planter, and had refused to hear the slave's complaint. Now, sir, through my representation, an inquiry was ordered—the whole matters fully and fairly investigated—and then it turned inn to be an artfully contrived tissue of falsehoods, founded upon a very trifling incident, or rather accident, that might have happened in even the best ree,Cated European fatuity, as well as between a \Vest Indian planter and his slave. - lf, then, a man who had expe rience—who had resided fur years in te. colonies, • could be so easily imposed ueon, we may well suppose that a wandering philanthropist like Mr. Stung - e —who went out on purpose to collect such tales, would find no lack of informets: I never tract with more shrewdness, cunning, ave. and sly wit among any race of men, than I found among the negro population of the West Indies. They will compretteod in a moment voor object or intention in entering' into conversation with them— more especially if a stranger in the - cOlony—and they are sel dein at a loSs in framing a romance to suit the taste of the in quirer, 0r..t0 gratify . _ him with such informatien'as they see he is in quest of. But I ate wandering from the subject, which is the principal cause of my addiesSing you—theqeestion of abol ishing " the Apprenticeship system. • And now, sir, - I assert, without the tear Of ' contradiction from practical men, and I can prove front the most ample; satisfactory; and authenticated . . documents, than whatever niiv'-'have taken place in Jarnaica, the system :has worked, welo ; e';:is"• . wo . rking ivell—and that to . alter or interfere ,with- the'eitsllng arraneethents would he far more 'ruinous to the Ce. , :isolioliulation than.to.their rues tersthe planters:• The apprenticed labourer is now as free as any labourer in .England, or. any 'farm .. servant in Scotland. His interests are more strietly.c:ired for, and his comforts more firmly secured, than ate those. the labouring population in Britain. Every bias of the law is in favour of the negro and against his employer, so that. ifcruelties are practised, or injus tice done him, the whole pewee-of, the court is at his command; and in the colonies (at least those which I have visited) neither power, wealth, nor rank, could save a guilty master from that punishment which the laW' inflicted. But; as I have already said and shown, that I have:little reason to praise West India planters, I must, in justice to that greatly misrepresented and calumniated .class of men, state; and I do it with pleasure, that there have been few •instances indeed, th the inward and lee ward colonies,. where any diSposition was shown either to con travene the law or ill-treat the ,negro. It is impossible to do so with impunity. In 1.4 e colonies, where the preprictots are ; for the most part, resident, the utmost harmony and good order prevails among all classes of the community. W - henever there was anything like harshness in the commencement of the sys tem. it was only when the estates were under the management of hirelings; and I imagine the disorders that have taken pmce in Jamaica may be traced, to. the same cause; and from these hirelings, whether attorneys,'Managers, or overseers, not being so strictly looked after as they have been in the lesser colonies. It requires some. person more acquainted with human nature than. anhen. Earl or a uoble Marquis to govern properly a West - India colony. Look at the good order, industry, and happiness which such men as Sir James Carmichael Smyth can procure for a whole community, by merely -cat rying into effect the wholesome laws which have been passed for their govern, auce. Sir Lionel Smith has neither the temper nor the talents of the governor of .British Guiana; but still I ant certain, that since he assumed the cominand in Jamaica, the abuses upon which Dr. Duncan basso largely Commented, never could have taken place. But ought a whole nation to be ruined and laid desolate because there are a few individuals who may have com mitted robbery or murder to be found within,the boundaries? Are our West India possessions to be • lost' and destroyed be cause in Jamaica there are one or two cruel managers'? God forbid! As well_might you turn ten thousand children of seven years of age into the. streets of London, and tell them to pro vide for and manage their own concerns, and expect that they would be able to de so, as suppose for a•monnent, that the great mass of the negro population of our West India colonies could exist or prosper if released frinn the superintendence of their white masters and employers. Except in some of our oldest colonies, such as Barfiadoes and Antigua, the cegto is a perfect child in intellect, and perfectly. .without care or consideration for the future. The present system ought rather to be prolonged than shortened, if we have any, the least regard for the temporal or eternal welfare Of our sable brethren. The character of the people has changed enure in the last three years than even the most sanguine could have anticipated=the value of moral con duct begins to 7 . beonderstood—religious knowledge is eagerly ,sought after—the 'churches and . chapels are crowded ; and schools cannot.be,btrilt .fast enough—every day the people ate becoming more orderly and indlistrions, and instead of this country being a laser by the sum, laige as it .was, that they paid for thechainS that toting the slave, it . w ill, in a short time, (unless the devil,...in , the shape of some radical - Ex-Chancellor, unhinge the whole fiame,) be returned a thousand-fold. Al ready have our exports to the colonies been more than doubled, while the increve 91 their staple products exceeds •by a third the-Most prochictlve seasons orslave labour. Let all such good meu as my Rev.'Vrieud of Ruthwell join in petitioning the go vernment to send out only such men to the West Indies as are fit to be Governor's and, magistrates—men who will carry into effect theregulalforts of the legislature, and act uprightly.' Age and'infirmitieS are not compatible with such important trusts; political interest' nor private friendship ought to, guide the mi nister in these critical times. • If a colony is well governed under the existing laws, there • cats be neither oppreSsors nor oppressed. The utmost extent that a labourer can be corn- Veiled to work is'only 45 hours in the seven days. If he work hours daily, -he is employed_ for six days; but if he works for 9 hours daily, which was the term of. slave labour latterly, he 'has fulfilled his duty to his master in free days, and has the sixth to himselK• This,' now, is . generally the arrangement, and it the sixth day is !giVen to his employer, he has reg ular wa g es. . In fact, sir,l never witnessed more contentment or real hap pines than amongst . the labouring classes, in our windward and even our leeward velimies; and why disturb their tranquillity? All the non-prMiliaLwill :he free •in six or seven months—the prcedial in two years, from August -next. This, now, is perfectly understood by all , aud contentedly acquiesced in; 1 never heard the least impatience expressed 'in any quarter. But there are many men, alas! who think they know better what is good for us than we do ourselves; and such, I fear, are the would-be philanthropists who have begun- to agitate the question of the West India apprenticeship system. I enclose a few rental ks extracted from a Demerara paper, and' I can from personal knowledge corroborate every sentence, of what the editor has . stated. I pray you find a place for this extract in your widely circulated journal,' and you will oblige, sir ; yours very .truly, ANDREW HALLIDAY. The following are the remarks of the editor of the British Guiana Gazette on the meetings lately held in England : " In zeal for the cause of human rights, and for the untram melled mental and bodily freedom of the whole human race, we (if we be acquainted at all with our own hearts) would yield to no contender for the entire abolition of slavery on the face'of the globe. Cruelty and injustice could not be more detested by any Sturge, Palmer, or' Lloyd, iu England, Ireland, or Scotland, nor by any lady whose name appeared iu the Glasgow petition to the Queen, than they are by ourselves; but if the principal object of these philanthropists (fur such we really be lieve them to be) be :the moral amelioration of the sable popu lation of the West Indies, we doubt much whether it would not be retarded rather than, advanced by the immediate and total annihilation of the apprenticeship. " The narrations of the speakers at the several meetings which have been lately held at home are well calculated to rouse the sympathies of a humane wind, and to lead to resolutions of a rash and hasty character in kindly bosoms, which, if the sub jects to which they relate were better understood and more ma turely considered, would never have been formed. "That negroes, or, indeed any people, are better fitted for religious and moral improvement when they are impressed with the idea that industry and sober habits are necessary fur their well-being, than when they have no • ambition to obtain a higher station in society than that of the wandering and-unci vilized tribes of men in their natural condition, is nearly a self evident fact which has been often tested by experience. It is b e y acting upon this . principle that the present Moravian mis sionaries are inure successful, in proportion to their numbers, in civilizing and moralizing, than any other society who have their labourers inAhetield of missions. The, use of the spade and plou,gb, of thdLscy-the and the reaping -hook, is: . by them taught siarillianeortily,iwitli the doctrines of Christianity at the greater number ofitheir stations, and by these means they in fuse a spirit of cotittinted takingsdusty and independence, which. would be much 10111101 mind, in possession of the untutored iu the absence pr neglect of such instruction. all the districts of this colony, where subordination; con tenreduess, and attention to business prevail, there is always found to be the. most numerous attendance at church and at school, and we are touch mistaken, if an attempt were made by a clergyman to seal home religious instruction on the negro mind, it he would ,not find it much more practicable among those who are under the influence of the apprenticeship, than he would among yearly who are entirely free. It is presumed there are few in any , pea of this dependency, upon estates where the apprenticeship . is working as it ought to do, who do not attend public worship on the Sabbath; and we are well as sured, on the othe r hand, troth 'from irersonal knowledge and from respectable authority, that of the . free negroes who are go ing at large about Georgetown and its vicinity, very few indeed does the worshipping temple ever cover.' "'These gentlemen, philanthropic as they are, who have con tributed so 110 Ch to inspire the British mind with an abhorrence of the conduct of the West Indians generally, ought to reflect on the moral consequences' of passing an obliterating sponge over the Act of •August, 183-1; and to ponder deeply. whether they will not, by their precipitancy, roll hack the tide of im provement and amelioration which is, undoubtedly, in general, gently flowing, and which would, in ail probability, if let alone, hear and thatt he long benighted negro to the happy shores of Christian knowledge and dignified citizenship. " The proceedings and enactments of the British legislature in the formation of the emancipation act, were founded on the soundest policy, and on a deep knowledge of human nature. The greatest friends to the unrestrained privileges of mankind, (among whom are we ourselves,) must see the 'direful conse quences that would have attended upon the unrestrained eman cipation of the negoes at the commencement of the apprentice ship, and, we verily believe, that many of these consequences would even yet be the result of its entire abolition. "'To many of these lovers of mankind in England and Ire land, and particularly to the fair daughters of ' Glasgow and its vicinity,' who never saw hnman nature only in its highest state of elegance and 'refinement, it may appear highly laudable to urge upon the government the beneyOlence Of the sudden and 'final overthrow of the bondage of their sable brethren. But while we do not yield to any of them in sympathy towards suffering humanity, we beg to assure theM, that our most firm conviction is, that such a - measure, under present circum stances would tend but little to better their temporal condition, and. would certainly much retard their religious and moral ilweccimeut. If theme be any truth iu the horrible relations to THE 1,1VP,3- POOl, STANDAI:D. which we have so often alluded, they are rare cases, and there is sufficient authority in the hands of the magistrates to put an immediate stop 10 them. No magistrate can be doing his duty in any 'district where i llenesy, insubordination, and thieving characterise the labourers, or - where savage, unnecessary, and unrelenting cruelty is-practiced.• by masters and drivers, and where each or any of these is known to exist, we humbly con ceive that by a strict vigilance on•the part of governors and sheriffs, they 'night soon -be put a stop to. If a man has been a few. times deceived by rogues, it makes him that he will scarcely trust honest men ; just.so it is with the people of England. They have heard several appalling ac counts of horrid cruelty in Jamaica and some other of the islands, and so the whole apprenticeship.must he abolished in all. one West Indian territories. If these. ladies and gentlemeu would allow their reelecting powers to keep pace with their be.- nevole - nce they would pause before they would be instrumental in effecting a measure which, although it might gratify one part of their desire for doing good, would throw a great ob stacle in the way of that mental enlightenment, in comparison with - which, these very individuals esteem all earthly gains as nothing. • "Some means that would cause careless and partial magis trates to perform their duty faithfully to both, parties—that would check cruelty and unnecessary afflictions by the master, and subdue the disposition to disobedience and idleness in the servant, would gradually effect a greater good than could pus sibly be done by the immediate abolition of the apprenticeship." ROYAL AMP H EATRE, • GREAT CHARLOTTE-STREET, LIVERPOOL. rinH IS EVENING, FRIDAY, Jan. 26, and following night, will be perfermed a grand Military Drama, founded on Anecdotes during the present struggle, called WARS IN SPAIN ; OR, CARLISTS AND ctittisziNos! Aided by the appearance and varied evolutions of the Regular - • 11lilitary. • Scenes in the Circle—Arab and Bedouin Exercises. After which an Equestrian Nursery Tale, called Jack the Giant Killer. The whole to conclude with the Laughable Burletta, called A FLIGHT TO AM ERICA. The public are respectfully informed that a BENEFIT will be given to the SUFFERING POOR, on THURSDAY NEXT, February 1, 10, on whiCh occasion the Profits that may arise froni the libera.lity of the visitors will be given for that benevo lent purpose. Prices of admission—Dress Boxes, 3s. '; Pit, 25.; Lower Gallery, ls.; Upper. Gallery, Gl. Children, half price, from the commencement, to the . Boxes awl Pit only. Second Price at Half-past Eight 'o'clock . : Boxes, ls. 6d. ; 'Pit, Is.; Galleries, 6d.—Box Office open every day from Eleven till Three o'clock, when Mr. 1 - lAl,s will he in attendance. Doors open at Six o'clock, and the Performance begins at half-past. Private Boxes may be had nightly for Parties, at 21s. and 425. • Instructions in the Art Riding Given. Rid,ng Master, Mr. Ginn ett. Terms may be knounzon application at the Amphitheatre. • • - Proprietor, Mr. BATES. Stage . M .. wnager, Mr. NEVILLE. appeals of common sense, or he would have long since acknnWledged the justice and propriety of our original remarks on the subject. But whilst we despair of effectinz any change in the opinions of the. " simple swain" that does the slop-iyork of the' Telegraph, we derive great satisfaction from the. reflection that the public of Liverpool agree with us in the be 14.1 that the meeting of the Reform Association was a private one. The silence of 'all the radical papers in town, with the solitary exception of the Telegraph, affords a strong proof that the liberals themselves are generally of otlr opinion in reference to this question. Before we dismiss the subject we may as well indulge in a remark or two on the distinction between a public and a private meeting. The former we conceive to be one to which every class of the public is admissible, without any previous qualification, whether convened for an in definite or a specific object. We should, therefore, de signate the meetings of the Birmingham Political Union, if none but members were allowed to attend, as private cabals. The mere circumstance of one thousand, or ten thousand, or even a hundred thousand persons being in attendance on any occasion, would make no differ e nee, if all were excluded who had not the qualifi cation of membership. The Ribbonmen of Ireland have on various occasions assembled in thousands; but no one surely would call a meeting of a secret society a public meeting. The meeting in the Sessions'-house, to which the Telegraph alludes, was a public meeting. The de. feat of the radicals on that occasion only proves that the public of Liverpool,. who were invited to attend, dis played better generalship than the faction with whom the invitation originated.. The meetings of the Trades men's Conservative Association are private meetings. We never maintained the contrary. The meeting in the Clarendon-rooms, in 1834, was a public meeting. The gatherings in Clayton-snuare were also, all of them, public 'meetings; but they would 'not have been so if no one had been admitted into that area but on presentation of a ticket, purporting that those who were admissible were menibers of a political club. The next time. the Telegraph magnifies the meetings of the, Reform Association into public assemblages, we shall put: the accuracy of the definition to the test by ap plying 1 . 4 itdmissqm ourselves. BIRKENEIEAD.—In our paper of Friday last we in serted the proceedings of the Vestry held on the preced ing day at the Church in Birkenhead. The polling was resiuned the next morning, and at its final close the numbers were,—for the bill, 132 persons-286 votes; against it, 66 personti r -84 votes. Application will, therefore, be made to Parliament—a measure at which the great majority of the more respectable inhabitants seen) much pleased. Tue. EmiGnATtoisr AGENTS.—We had intended, if our s, , ace had permitted, to have followed up our remarks of Tuesday last;by some further animadversions on the in famous system of fraud to which the poorer classes of emigrants from this port hare been for many years past liable. We find, however, that the length of our re ports will preclude us from entering at present into the details of the question. We are in possession of a mass of evidence upon the subject which has fully convinced us of the immediate necessity for adopting some active measures to put down the nefarious practices which cer tain unprincipled characters have resorted to, in their transactions with emigrants from the agricultural dis tricts. Hereafter we may deem it incumbent upon us to giVe publicity to the facts to which we have just al luded. In the meantime we are glad to find that the attention of Sri George Grey has been drawn to this important subject, on the representation of the. Town Council. It is to be hoped that a bill may be shortly introduced into Parliament for the purpose of redressing the grievances under which emigrants have so long suffered, and of ef fectually preventing the frauds which have been suffered for so long a period to disgrace the town of Liverpool. Humanity demands the interference of the legislature on behalf of those poor persons who are the habitual dupes of the_ harpies who assume the title of emigrant brokers ; whilst justice requires that the latter should be placed under the strict surveillance of the law, and liable to its severest penalties. Our sense of duty will lead us to discuss this matter more minutely hereafter. .11I,PORTANT . APPEAL AGAINST A POOR RATE ON THE GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY. •• Ati appeal, involving the very important question as to the extent to which railway companies may be liable to be taxed to the poor-rates in the different townships along the lines, came on. for hearing at the quarter Sessions at Kirkdale on Saturday last. • . The rate appealed against was for the township of Newton, through which the company were obliged to admit (indeed their own books showed) that there was much more traffic than through any other township alon g the line, there being sides —be passengers, horses, and carriages—goods, coal, lime, &c., to and from Warrington; they were therefore rated upon an assumed "nett value to let" of £l,BOO per utile per annum. Hulton. first put in certain admissions agreed upon by both parties, (Mr. Wagstaff on behalf of the respondents and Messrs. Clay and Swift on behalf of the appellants; arid then the learned gentleman proceeded to open the case of the re spondents. He said he had to admit on th eir behalf that the company had behaved fairly to them, having, since the notice Of appeal was given, allowed an accountant on behalf of the township to inspect and examine alt their books and accounts. That the township had in this way obtained such information as e nabled them (though not absolutely to support the rate to the full extent of the £l,BOO per mile,) to sentry themselves, - and they hope d to satisf y the court also, that the full annual value to let of the tolls earned in (that is to say, of the railway thrriugh) Newton was £1,234 per mile, after deducting £2O per cont. for tenants' profits and fur maintaining the railway in Newton. and £7O for parochial charges in that township; the gross annual produce being shown by the company's hooks, and being stated in the admissions, to be £1,659 per mile in the township. Mr. Hulton then called as his witness a gentleman who formerly had a lease of the 'Warrington and Newton Railway, who proved that it had only cost him £57 per mile to maintam it, the.gross tolls on the business carried on by him then being £6ao per mile; and that hefiire he had the lease time line was kept in repair by another party under a contract of £l5O per mil e . • Upon this evidence Mr. Hulton proposed to allow a de duction of twice as much per mile, for maintaining the - way, as th e witness proved t h a t he h ad spent up on . it ; but - Dr. Brown, for the appellants, objected to this, and cross-examined the witness, who admitted that he bad spent as little as possible on the railway, because he was liable to have his lease determined by three months' notice at any time. Dr. 'Brown then opened the case of the appellants, who, he said, relied entirely on the cases decided by the King's Bench, awl ill particular on the Duke of Bridgewater's case, 9 Barrie wall and Cresswelt, and the Oxfiird canal case, 10 Barnewall and Cresswell. Applying these decisions to the present case, he claimed to deduct from the admitted gross produce, first, £2l) per cent. as the profits ofa proposed lease, then £7O (as agreed) for•parochial charges, and then £450 per mile for the expenses of Maintaining the railway, police, point-men, engineers, and the other necessary payments of such a tenant; and in this way the learned doctor made it appear that the "An annual value to let" of the tolls earned in Newton was only £827 per mile, He contended thatthe witness for the township had fully entitled him to most, if not all, of the £450 per mile for the one •single item of maintaining the railway, because if it had cost £l5O per mile when there was only a intik of £640 per mile, it was almost reduced to a rule-of-three question, now when the beingi(latmere reexul i e t et r c o s u p ta n on r t svt i e o h t i i ( f t h. o t h t ae h e %lve q as ys u e, a ei n h t w.e i i f p e t b r l le a a ffi snut c ls ; , : i traffic was, three times as great (the expense of maintenance claimed subject) e wales t u h , c l e t f a n n i7 d n t t h e e .the ee rssweint employed and ed pno superintendingt n ts in i la ce, &c., t state h e P . of i t e h e e ' way;, repairs, &c.; and it was in respect of all these, together With the maintenance of the way, that the £450 per . mile was • c laird ed. The learned doctor then called his witness, and Mr . 11uliOn replied ; after wh c the magistrates had a long conhi- sottation;and, we understand, a protracted discussion as to the different . facts; and at a late hour they gave their decision -E2G.per cent. for profits of a supposed lessee. £3OO (instead of '. £450 per mile) . for maintenance of the for parochial charges. The result of the appeal thus being, in figures, that the- appellants will have to pay £l4 17$. instead of ' £27.75. 6d. (the amount of the rate at 4d, in the pound, on two thirds "the nett annual value to let"—the rates ou all other • property in this township being only ou two-thirds.) TO CORRESPONDENTS. We have received the following , donation to the fund . for pro. riding soup fur the distressed pour. Messrs. Rubinson; and. Girvin, Lilt 'Zbe iLiberpoot Al.tanbarb. FRIDAY MORNING, JANUARY 26,' 1838. 'n7 The Publication of the SI'ANDARI) commenced this morn lug at 6 o'clock. LATEST INTELLIGENCE FROM THE WEST INDIES. — By the Skylark, we hare received papers from Jamaica to the 12th ultimo, and from British Guiana to the 22d of November. The Jamaica papers speak of .the spread of disaffeCtion among the negroes in the Port Royal Mountains ; but they do not enter into any particulars. In the Jamaica Royal Gazette of the 9th ult. we find the following judicious remarks on the system of initni gration, to which a partial trial had been already given : It is with very great pleasure we refer to the report presented to the House from the Commissioners of the Township of Alia 'tient, inserted in our paper of last week, which enters so mi nutely into 'every matter connected with the establishment of the Township, the arrival.ol the emigrants, and their ultimate location, as to leave -no circumstance untouched, or any know ledge which we might wish to acquire regarding this interesting colony, hidden,. In fact, it is one of those reports we can look to with pleasure as affording every information which may be desired regarding it. We' confess we are of those who look upon the settlement of. Townships by European emigrants as one of the great experiments on which the safety of the colony depends, and in the language of the report, " cannot but con gratulate-the country on the successful commencement of an undertaking, by which alone the resources of this extensive island ever can be fully developed. Its diversify of high and low lands affords' a diversity of climate equally favourable to the European as well as to the African labourer :—The low lands are already occupied principally by the latter class; but the interior high lands remain, to a large extent, as yet in a stated nature.—lf upon these lands a labouring white population can be settled, bringing along with them the indus. try and the moral and religious habits of the Scotch peasantry, their example cannot fail to have a powerful influence on the other inhabitants, and Jamaica, with such assistance may yet rise reinvigorated to a higher prosperity, than it never could have attained under a state of slaVery. The object is of vast' importance, and well deserves in the opinion of the Commis sioners, the cordial support of the Legislature." It cannot but afford the well wishers of Jamaica the greatest possible pleasUre in knowing that although these people have hail among them cases of measles, chichen pox, ophthalmia and intermittent fevers, yet no case of serious illness had occurred,--la circum stance not at all unusual or unlooked for in the tine,healthy climate, which those located, in the mountainous parts of Jamaica enjoy. CANADA.-The Packet-Ship North America, mhicli sailed from New York on the Ist inst. has not yet ar rived, although she was telegraphed off , this port on Tuesday lasi. We have therefore, little to add to the very conclusive intelligence with which we presented our readers on Tuesday last. The only important news we have to relate is, the confirtuation,uf the accounts which we published on Tuesday, afforded in the. following; despatches of Sir John Colborne, which we find in the London Gazette of Wednesday : COLONIAL OFFICE, DOWNING-STREET, JAN. 24, Dispatches have been received from Lietenant-General Sir John Colborne, K.C.8., Commander of the Forces in Canada, dated 13th and 15th December, 1837, of which the following are extracts and copies : Extract from a Dispatch from Lieutenant General Sir John Colborne K.C.8., to Major General Lord Fitzroy Somerset, K.C.8., date,' Montreal, December 13, 1837, I have the honour to acquaint you, that, on the return of Colonel Gore from St. Hyacinthe with part of the force under his command. 1 detached Lieuteuant Colonel Hughes, of the 24th regiment, with ten companies, to attack the rebels which had entered St. Armand, from. Swanton, in the United States; the brave and loyal volunteers of Missisqui, however, had, previously to the march of that officer from St. l John's, dispersed the Canadians of which he was in pursuit. They were commanded by Bouchette And Gaynon. _ _ I proceed this clay, with all my disposable force, towards St. Ens tache, in expectation of speedily putting down the revolt in the Grand Brule. in the county of Two Mountains. Head-quarters, St. Benoit, Grand Brule, December 15„ 1837. My Lord,—ln transmitting to you a copy of a dispatch to the Gene ral Commanding-in-Chief, I beg to inform your lordship, that I en tertain no doubt that the revolt in Lower Canada is completely at an end. The whole of the Imbilans who were in arms, in the county of the Lake of the Two Mountains, the most disturbed part of the dis trict, since the commencement of the revolt, are returning to their homes, and bringing in their arms to my head-quarters. 1 have the honour to be, &c., J. COLBORNE, Lieut. Gen. The Right Hon. Lord Gienelg, her Majesty's Secretary Of fltate,_Colonial Department. (Copy.) Head4luarters, St. Benoit, Grand Brule. My Lord;—l marched with the disposable force under my cum. wand from Montreal, on the 13th, and entered St. Eustache on the next day ; this village has been occupied for ten days, by about 13 hundred rebels, commanded by Chenin and Girod, . two of the must active of their leaders. On the appearance of the Queen's troops, the greater of the rebels dispersed, but others remained, and fired from the church and adjacent houses, which were taken without much loss. 1 continued my march to Saint Benoit, Grand Brute, this morning ; a section of the country in which more outrages have been committed than in any other part of the country, since the commencement of the revolt. It appears that the rebel army dispersed yesterday ; and this morn• ing the peasantry, which had been assembled, are bringing in thei arms to head-quarters; and I have reason to believe that, in every part of the country the habitans have returned to their houses, and that the revolt has been completely put down. Our loss has been in considerable ; the details of the march I shall take an early opportu nity of communicating to you. I have the honour to he, &e. J. CoLnonrls, Lieut. Gen, Major Gen. the Right Hon. Lord Fitzroy, &c. • TUE " TELEGRAPH."—This contemptible print con tinues to reassert, from week to week, with a dogged pertinacity strongly indicative of mental delusion, that the late private and exclusive meeting of the Reform Association •was a public meeting. There are some people whose native dulness is such that they are inca : pable of even comprehending an argument, much less to allow the force of reason to have a convincing influence on their minds. To this class of unfortunate imbeciles the editor of the Telegraph. appears to belong. We ' have done all we could to convince him of his erroneous impression as to the nature and composition of the meet lug in question; but all our .efforts seem to have been in v ain. The simpleton appears to be prmil against the ACCIDENT TO TnE N.W. LIGHT SHIP. Early on Wednesday morning, a boy emplovhd on board the Pocahontas Pbiladelpbia packet, Princes Docl:, was severely 'wounded by a crook falling on his leg. He was carried to the Northern Hospital, Leeds-street. During the night of Tuesday a woman was rescued from drowning in the canal, near the Northern Hospital, Leeds street, to which excellent instipition she was conveyed by the police. -We understand she is likely to recover. • GRAND JuNcrioN LWA Y.-011 Friday last, a lady travel ling towards London by the Birminvhatu train, left in the wait ing -room at the Hartford station a bag, containing with other articles, about LW in gold. On arriving at Birmingham, she in formed the clerk at the station of her loss, and begged him to cause enquiry to be made at Hartford. Her request was so promptly as well as civilly attended to, that within fourteen hours of the lady's arrival:in London, the bag and all its contents were safely restored to her. Ma. RUMBA LL'S LECTURES ON Po altNoLorly.—We are obliged by want of space, to omit till Tuesday next, Mr. Rum ball's lecture of Tuesday. THE EASTERLY GALES.—The long prevalence of the easterly gales has now for some weeks kept vessels beating about in the channel unable to snake the port. It will betray great neglect on the part of the•governutent, 'if steamers and vessels are not sent out to relieve them. We have heard .of several vessels having been spoken ►o, six and even seven weeks ago, and one in want of provisions, all of whcils are unable to snake the port. This measure has, on former occasions of a similar nature - been resorted to. We trust that on this point at le st, on the score of humanity, that government will shake off tke apathy which distinguishes all its movements. THE CHARGE OF MURDER ON THE COAST OF AVItiCA. On Tuesday, at the Police-office, this case which was ad jaerned Inut the trig it before, again cone on before Mr. flail. e gave a full report iu our last paper of the evidence of the seamen on board the Kingston, implicating Captain Cain, the master, as having ordered his Krooboys, while Iviitg off New Calabar, to heat his steward. Lewis liansford, till be died. The prisoner when brought up appeared downcast ilea de pressed. Mr. Statham, the partner of Mr. Curry, appeared on behalf of the 111 tanner. Mr. Hall said there was one person whose evidence he was wishful to have, but he had absented himself. However, they must endeavour to procure him ; and his examination might be appended to the evidence. Mr. Statham.—What is his name, sir? Mr. Hall.—l had rather not mention his name: you have no right to require his name. r. Statham.—You seem to say that under an impression that we have some hand in keeping him away. I can only say I have been no party in keeping. him away, sir. Mr. Hall.—l am sure you would uot, Mr. Statham; I don't suppose you would. !Ir. Statham said it only remained for him to lay the pri soner's case before the magistrates. He did pot mean to deny for one moment that the steward was flogged; but he hoped he should be able to prove something in mitigation of the cap tain's conduct,• by showing that he only ordered him to be flogged after violence had been offered to himself in his own cabin, and after great provocation. He was sorry to say he had only one witness, who was an apprentice on board the ship, and was in the cabin 'at the time the assault was committed. Mr. Statham then proceeded to recite the evidence to be brought forward, which will be foiled in the evidence which follows. if this were the time he could bring forward stone of the first mer chants in the town to speak to the character of the prisoner. He had been eleven years in the service of Mr. Horsfall, and had been a captain five years. No doubt that would have its weight with a jury. He called George Lees,who deposed that be was 17 years old last May, was now apprentice on board the Kingston, and sailed from Liver pool on the 2d of March for New Calabar, and arrived there at the latter end of April. Was there on the 20th of May. He knew the steward Lewis Hansford, who sailed from Liverpool. About five o'clock in the evening he was in the ship stowing away some cloth. The captain told him to go and tell the stew hrd to pump some rum up; he told him, toad he (lid it. It was just then going dusk. The steward came into the cattin after wards; be had not nailed the tin over the bunghole, he said he was looking for the tacks. There was a sideboard in the cabin. There was a tumbler and decanter on it. There was some rum in the decanter. He was in the shop stowing away clef h, and could see the steward. He saw the steward put the decanter down, and put the stopper in. There was a black boy in the cabin along with him. In consequence of his saving something he looked round and then saw the steward putting the decanter down. The captain was in the other cabin talking to one of the pilots. He could not see the steward. He might have heard the decanter moved. The steward after that went on deck. He saw him looking about fur something before he put. the decanter down, and asked him what be was looking for, he said tacks. lie said he wanted them to nail the tin over the bunghole of therm puncheon. It was not a likely place to find tacks. There was nothing put there but tumblers end decanters: and water.. The captain asked him a question about the steward, anclin consequence of his answer sent him to fetch him down- The steward came down into the cabin, and he (the witnessy followed. The captain said, " What have you been doing amongst the decantersr"l'he steward said " Nothing," as sulky as could be. The captain told him he had, that he had been drinking. The steward denied this, and said he had not. The captain asked him would fie tell a wilful lie to his face. The steward said he was not telling a lie. The captain then. struck him with a small cat made of fishing line, over one of the shoulders, and said, "Oh, you'll tell a lie, will you! I will make you tell the truth." The steward said "he was a hard working; man, and he would he d—d if he would be imposed on." and seized the captain with his left hand to his neck and his right hand to his knee. He moved his right hand and laid hold of the captain's privates, and lifted him op and hove him down against the door heavily, and the steward fell with him, the steward being uppermost. The captain's bead struck against the door-handle and key. His head was wounded by it, and he bled much. The wound was about one inch and a half in size. The steward still kept his bands where he had stated, and the captain was not able to speak plain; he said " Kroo," which witness understood to mean that he was to call for the Krooboys. He called the Krooboys, named Walker and Grey. Walker was at the.gangway trying palm nil. He was not landing from a boat. Witness went back into the cabin. The pilot was in the cabin before the Krooboys came. He was a black man, and did not come home with them. Wit ness and the pilot pulled the steward off the captain; they were not able to pull him off. The Krooboys cares down in about two minutes, and pelted the steward off with some difficulty. The steward was a stout man. When they gin him off they took him on deck, and he resisted, and tried to get hack to the cap tain, but the Krooboys prevented him. They then took him on deck. The captain had the print of the stewards hands on his neck, and his face was of a blue colour. He appeared to be in pain, and sat down. He soon afterwards went on deck; in two or three minutes, and witness followed him. The steward was opposite the cabin door when they went on deck; the Krooboys were holding him and had him down, The captain ordered them to flog him. and kept him down. The Krooboys flogged hini, Walker and Grey and two other boys came in about five minutes tine. They at first held im, and the captain told him to let him go, and they did. He b did not get up; he could not rise, he was in too great a pails. They let him go in about eight minutes. The flogging continued a quarter of an hour. Five persons flogged hint, and the captain made six. He did not see the captain knock bine down with the butt end of a cat, but he saw the captaiu kicking him. He saw one of the boys that was flogging him strike him on the face, the boy's name was Dogabow. He and the steward bad not been on good terms. The steward died soon afterwards; he was almost dead when they had done. He was buried in the morning. That was not the usual time of burying. They bury people as soon as they die. He was examined before Captain Dawson, and Captain Hemmingway. Before he was examined no threats were made to him, and none to any of the men that he heard. Captain Grant was on board, and present during the examination. He was the Captain of the Heyworth, and took part in the examination. He was examined. that was all. Witness was examined by Mr. Dawson and Mr. Hemmingway. Nobody else interfered in the examination. Captaiu Cain was present walking about iu the cabin, but did not take a part in the examination. A fortnight or three weeks after the affair the captain was taken ill, but not sooner. He had a touch of the fever before. He had never had any difference-With the steward until the steward attacked him. He never saw the captain be have unkind to him before. At the time of the logging the pilot's canoe was alongside with two boys natives, in. The most that were flogging bitu at one time were five, who were flogging him nearly all the (line, two had cats, and the others had pieces of lead line. During the time of the flogging be heard the the captain call the steward " a sou of a b— to come and attack him in his own cabin." He did not hear him say more than that. He bad once said that be did nut hear the captain use violent language. The boy having been admonished by Mr. Hall to speak out boldly, and tell the loth, was examined by Mr. Aare—The scuffle took place about four o'clock in the afternoou. The deck was three steps from the cabin. It was by the captain's order that the Kroomen dragged the steward out. lie did not tell them what they were to do with him. The Kroomen began to flog him after they had let him go, when he was too weak to get up, by the captain's orders. The same men flogged bins again. The captain said "pay him well." They flogged him for about seven minutes mole. lie saw the captain kick him while they were flogging him many times, in all parts, whenever he could get a chance at. him. He never heard the captain say kill hint, kill him;" he said pay him well." When the boy was flogging him on the face the steward said " Oh, Inv eves." The captain, at that time, was standing quite close to him: He saw some rope ends used in beating the man, besides cats and lead lines. The second mate used a rope's end two or three times, and he gave it to one of the pull-away hoes, and he continued to use it. The second mate brought the lead lines to dog him by the captain's order. All the time they were flogging kiln kis shirt and singlet were off his back, and his back was quite bare. The captain ordered his shirt and singlet to be taken off. They flogged him a little time with his shirt and singlet on, and then the captain made them take it off. He did not see h i s b o d y before he was buried for fear of getting the cat himself. He reinembeted seeing his head near a hook while on the deck, and the captain kicking his head on the hook. There was a cut on each side of his head with the book. Irons were put on his hands when he was dying, by the carpenter, by the captain's orders. He did not move afterwards. The ship arrived here on new year's (lay. He mentioned what he bad seen done to the man after they had arrived. A gentleman came tir and asked him. He never told any one to the best of hie'recol lection the flogging lasted half an hour to three quarters of an hour. He never recollected seeing inspector Tyrell. He re membered telling the same gentleman he before mentioned, that they were all afraid of speaking the truth, when they had been examined. He never told any ore that he beard the cap tain tell the black buy to cut- hint over the eye. He saw him after his was dead. His face, and neck, and eyes were.all Dogabow who flogged him on the eyes, was . a Calabar boy. By Mr. Statham.—Dogabow belonged to the ship at that time; no other person trout Calabar flogged him. The steward did not appear to be sober when be came to look for tacks. Mr. Hall inquired what other evidence Mr. Statham had Mr. Statham said he bad only the evidence of the black man. Mr. Hall said he did not know how to adminster an oath to the black man; he would rather leave it to the judges. Mr. Statham said, perhaps Mr. Hall would try to Wake him understand the nature of an oath. Mr. Hall said he felt souse difficulty about it, because he was quite aware that tbeoaths differed very much; there were 'some of them of a less binding nature than others. He tbotight if they meant to have the man examined, they had better have him examined in Loudon, and let the court determihe in what way his conscience was to be bound. Mr. Curry.—Only if You could arrive at the manner of.ad ministering an oath to him you might determine on committing the prisoner for felony truly, which was of isuportauee for this captain. Mr. Hall.—After your last evidence Mr. Curry.—Well, if you are determined to commit him. Mr. Flail.—l thick you had better reserve this evidence. for (lie Central Criminal Court. Mr. Curry.—Don't you think, on the evidence of the last witness, we have shown sufficient provocation to reduce the charge to manslaughter. Mr. wish to abstain from all comment, because the charge is one of the most painful and distressing nature. But I still feel inclined, as I before told you, to commit bim to take his trial on the charge of murder. lam not working any in justice to him in so doing, for a man may be guilty. of man slaughter committed for murder. But I think it would not do for me to determine on such a case; I must leave it to higher authority. It is my duty, I think, to send him for the higher offence, leaving it to the Central eritnival Court, whether to be found guilty of murder or manslamehter. Pe should, therefore, commit him to take his trial for murder. Mr. Curry said they had eudeavoured to get the evidence of the surgeon who had examined the body, who would prove that his wounds were not sufficient to cause death. They were told be was in the Isle of Man, but they had ii it been able to find him. Did Mr. Hall think the prisoner could be admitted to unexceptionable bail ? Mr. Hall.—Oh, no, I cannot hear of it. My mind is per fectly made up about that. 1 should require bail of an matt_ mous amount. Mr. Curry.-1 dare say we could get it. Mr. Hall.—No, my mind is made up; I won't hear of it. I feel it my duty to bind Mr. Horsfall, the master of the boy, over, for the boy's appearance to give evidence. Mr. Curry said he would acquaint Mr. Horsfall with his de termination, though they should take the boy up. Mr. Hall then.gaye the usual caution to the prisoner, not to say anything which might criminate himself, as it would be taken clown, and then asked him if he chose to say anything? The prisoner, atter conferring with his attorney, declined say ing any/thin , . He was then ' cominittited to take kis trial at the next Cesare' Criminal Court fur Alutder. [The cowl toe') et is quarter past five o'clock.] As the Independence was leaving this port on Wednesday :the ran foul of the NW. Light Ship. The following is the toaster's report to the 'Dock Committee:— " Meteor, 24th Jan., 1838. " I have to report to von thit the American packet-ship In dependence, of New York, has tau foul of the N.W. Light Ship at noon to-day, in coming out of Liverpool. The day was quite clear. She ran right stem into us, blowing strong from the S.E., stove our larboard bow in, completely started the plank, carried away the timber-heads, night-heads, staunch eons, sprung the bowsprit, carried away the fore shrouds, in jured the foremast, if not sprung it, and left her bower anchor on our larboard how. The ship never so much as hove to, to see w hether we were going down or were adrift, but carried on. right before the wind. The lanterns are not the least injured, and the moorings held, but I think the vessel has gone a little to the westward, owing to the chains being dragged out of the mud. I have nailed canvas and tarpaulings allover the bow, to prevent water from coming in, but. she won't be safe if the wind comes to the westward and heavy, for if the canvas washes off she will be all open forward, and we shall not be able to keep her free. She is quite free at present. All the injured part is above water. 1, and all the men, stood on the fore grating iong before the ship came near us, waving with my hat and shouting to him to keep away, but all in vain. There were two men standing on her forecastle long before she struck us. (Signed) JOHN JONES, Master." The Independence proceeded, and was off Holyhead 6f hours after leaving the dock. LOSS OF THE KILLARNEY STEAMER, AND OF TWENTY-FOU it LIVES. (From the Cork Constitution.) One of the most calamitous occurrences that we have for a Long time had to deplore, took place on our coast on Saturday —we mean the total destruction of the Killarney Steamer, aura the loss of not fewer than twenty-four lives. The Killarney, • which belonged to the City of Bristol Company, left this on Friday morning for Bristol, but, the weather being very tem pestuous, she only made Poorbead, and was obliged to return to harbour. She put off again that evenieg, about 5 o'clock, and got abreast of Youghal. Here she was found so " labour some," that a number of pigs were thrown overboard for the purpose of lightening her, and it was deemed advisable to try and regain the harbour. They could not, however, keep full steam on her, for she had been leaking, and the water had so increased in the hold in which the coals were kept, that they became quite wet and would not burn freely. There were dry coals iu the fore cabin, but they were not easily procurable. From 4 o'clock on Saturday morning, they could scarcely keep any steam up, and in P 2 hours after—about 4 o'clock in the evening—shestruck on a rock under the Rennies, near Carbine' and about two miles from Roberts' Cove. It would seem im possible to account for her reaching this coast, and it is said that all endeavours were usade to keep her then off the land. The sails were spread, but they were shivered to atoms. When she struck, the anchor was let go, and the vessel swung round and touched a large rock that rose a considerable height above the level of the sea. The people on the cliffs, seeing her ap proach the danger, called out, but their calls, if heard, could not be attended to. The rock against which she swung was in the centre of a bay, the jutting promontories of which are perhaps a mile apart. The rock is about 200 yards frum the cliff, (there is no beach,) and the cliff, which is quite perpen dialler, is about' PA) yards above the sea. On her striking, twenty-one persons were able to reach the rock, when immedi ately the vessel and all that remained in her went down! Those who got on the rock were—Mr. Bailey, the Captain ; George Ruse, mate; Wm. Hancock, seamen; John Price , Ditto; John Champion, ditto; Chas. Camellia ditto; George Porter, coal-trimmer; Chas. Atfel, seamen ; Wm. Peterson, ditto; two engineers, Scorchrnen ; the cook, a black; James Archer, seaman; Richard Reed, ditto; the stewardess; a young boy intended for a steward; a boy in care of pi g s; John Ward, head steward, and his brother • Mr. John Collis, of Castlecooke; Mr. Thomas Foster, of iiillyinaloo; Dr. Spo lasco ; a woman whose name could not be learned; a sea man, who was afterwards drowned in trying to swim ashore. Of those perished, the head steward and his brother, the stewardess, the boy intended for a steward, and the boy in care of pigs, the seaman who tried to swim ashore, and poor young Foster. He and Mr. Collis were apprentices of Mr. Richard Beamish, the engineer, and were going over to him. Mr. Foster, a bile on the rock, slipped; Mr. Collis made a grasp to save him, and the lad, seeing his danger, sprang upwards. He rose three feet of the rock, but he fell on his head, and Mr. Collis says he hard his neck crack, and be tumbled into the sea! Ile was second son of the late Clement Foster, Esq., of Ballymaloo, and nephew of John Cuthbert Kearney, Esq., of Moufieldstown. Mr. Kearney, and Mr. Foster, his brother, were at the scene of desolation yesterday morning; they had not heard of the wreck till then, and their feelings we leave our readers to imagine. Mr. Collis, is the third son of William Collis, Esq., Castlecooke. Fourteen were rescued from the rock, but one of them died (a carpenter) soon after he was got on shore. The great difficulty was to get a rope to reach them. On Sunday, ducks with ropes fastened to them were sent out— only one reached, and that they nacre not able to catch. Wire was attached to bullets, and rope to the wire, and sundry shots were tired, but without the rope reaching the unfortunate peo ple. The gentry around were all present giving their assis tance :—Captain Knolles, of Oatlands, and his son, Richard Knolles Esq., George Daunt, Esq. , and Art hur Daun t, Es q ., of Newbru',' Dr. M'Dertnott, Charles Newenham, Esq., Mr. Hull, of the Coast Guard, at Robert's Cove, and his brother— and, "though last, not least," Lady Roberts, of Britfieldstown. Nothing could exceed her ladyship's attention to the sufferers when rescued—Sir Thomas was not at borne. On Sunday, when ail efforts to reach them with a rope by the above-mentioned means, were found vain, Mr. Hull, brother to the officer of Coast-guard, suggested the fastening a lung rope to one part of the Promontory, and carrying it along the beach to the other side, until a rope, dependent from the middle of it, was brought within reach of those on the rock. This was effected, but the dependent rope was so weak, and it was so late—then after 4 o'clock, and just dark=that it was necessary to give over further exertions for that evening, and, direful as was the alternative, leave the sufferers exposed to the fury of another night. The night, however, was not so tem pestuous as the preceding, and at daylight many were on the spot to give their assistance, Lady Roberts amongst the first. On going away at night the rope was left extended as we have described, and ready for operations in the morning; but during the night some inhuman wretches cut the rope and carried it off!! On Monday morning captain Manby's Life Preserving Ape paratus was brought from Kinsale, but the same difficulty wee experienced in reaching the rock with the rope. Shots wer again fired from guns asd small cannon brought for the purpose but without success, and Mr. Hull's plan was again resorted ten This succeeded; captain Manby's apparatus was affixed to the centre rope, about Il o'clock, two loaves of bread, and a little wine and spirits' were lowered to them—the first they had par taken of since Friday. After refreshing themselves, they were hauled up in the cradle, one by one, the woman first. The following were those drawn ap—Mr. Collis, Doctor Spolaseo, a woman, passengers ; the Captain ; George Rose, mate; Wm. Hancock, John Price, John Champion, Charles Gieellin, James Atfel, and Wm. Paterson, seamen; George Porter, coal-trimuuer, and James Mason, carpenter, who died soon after. They were all put into neiahboaring cottages, and attended to under the immediate superintendence of Lady Roberts, who provided them with covering, gruel and other nourishing drink. Dr. /11' Dermot, and indeed all in the vicinity, were most at tentive. Mr. Collis, who appeared to have suffered less than would have been supposed, was taken to BritSeldstown, Sir Thos. Roberts's; and the captain to the Water Guard Station; the rest were comfortably provided for, and seldom were indi viduals more in want of it, they having been the whole of Saturday . night, (and a most dreadful night it was,) all Sunday, and Sun day night, exposed to Loth winds and waves—besides which they were wet before they left the vessel. The woman who lay on the rock and was rescned, had on her nothing but her night dress and a small handkerchief. The stewardess was washed ashore wit's only buskins on her. Mrs. Morris, whose husband, is among the dead, had two stays, on, and 160 sovereigns stitched between the linings. These were riled when she limited ashore, as well as some rings that were on her fingers! Inhuman as this act may appear, we cannot marvel at it, after the cutting and making oft' with the rope that was intended as the means of sav ing from death 14 suffering fellow-beings. The Cabin Passengers were—Robert Lawe, Esq., and his wife; Thos. Foster, Esq.; John Collis, Esq.; Mr. Nicolai (or Nichol), we are not sure which,) 90th rest.; Dr. Spolasco and son: ' The fate of Mr. and Mrs. Laws and young Mr. Foster is de plored by every one to whom it has been mentioned. Mr. Lawe had carried with him through life the respect and esteem, not merely of his mercantile brethren, but of all who knew him. Ho never - reached the rock—his lady, we understand, did, but dirt nut long survive her husband. A sea, according to one report, washed her off— aeceordiag to another, she dropped from the rock and sank. Mr. Foster's fate, a hen all seemed safe, we have already described. Mr. Nichol, er icolai, was not seen after the vessel struck. The names of the deck passengers we have been unable to aseertain. 'l'vett of them were the man named Morrison and his wife, mentioned above. There were 6 °lsms, besides ( persons in charge of pigs. The crew, including the Captain and mate, were about eighteen in number. Altogether, there were 37 persons on board. Thirty-seven human beings alive and well on Saturday morning, and now tour and twenty of them in eternity ! The crew were •early all from the neighbourhood of Bristol. The cargo consisted principally of flour, butter, leather, and pigs, and roust have been valuable. Of tie pigs, of which there were 650 on board, 108 belonged to the Messrs. Adams of Blackpool; 200 to a poor man named Michael Murphy, who some time ago lost :100 on board one of the London vessels, and 70 to a woman of the name of Sullivan. The vessel, we under stand, was worth about 60,000. Altogether it is a most calamitous affair. The country-people, however, are endeavour ing to turn it to account. In every direction they ate to be seen moving off with pigs' heads, hams, Src., under their arms. The only part of the vessel now visible, is the top of the Engine, which lies adjacent to the rock. Mr. Beale, Mr. M. H. Conway, and Mr. Robinson, of the Sr. George Company, went down to render their assistance immediately on the news of the disaster reaching Cork. Mr. G. ErroN's Corcawr.—Tais gentleman's concert wart held on Wednesday, in Mr. Lassell's Saloon, St. Anne's, and we were glad to see that be had so crowded as audience. We have not space for a lengihened critique, hut we may state that the choruses were very excellent, as also were some ratite glees. An aria writ' sole on the violin, by Mr. Evtoa, was loudly ap plauded, and the glee of " Hail smiliag more," was cleverly played on four trombones, and met with hearty approbation. Tits ROY AL Amen , THEAT en.—We see that Mr. Bates, the spirited manager of this theatre, has announced that be will devote the proceeds of his house on next Thursday evening, for the benefit of the Soul) Charity for the poor. It does Mr. Bates infinite credit, and we hope, fur the sake of the charity, he will have a crowded house. lIER MAJEsrY TUE QuEnr4.—Mr. Lacy, Bold-street, has on view at, present, an etching which will well repay anyone the trouble of inspecting. It represents her Majesty in her robes of slate, as she appeared when she when to prorogue the first parliament. The countenance is radiant with majesty, and the figure beams with grace: the drapery is thrown with the most consul:nate taste. It is a magnificent work of art. The origi nal was painted by Chalon, the present engraving is by Cousins. EMPEROR WHEAT.—We perceive by an advertisement, that Mr. Fullard, of Thorney, the discoverer of the celebrated Chevalier Wheat, has introduced, another new sort, which want excels the Chevalier in point of quality, it is called the Emperor Wheat, we certainly never saw finer grain, and we have no doubt from the high testimonials of its merits, that it is really as productive as stated. Should the 'lmmured union between the Marquis of Douro ansi Miss Burdett Ccutts take place, the second Duke of Wel-. lington will be the first in wealth, as the first has been in fame and glory. A whig member of convocation at Oxford, not satisfied with iziving himself that designation, at th - e «4nd of along desettatiau provincial journal, signs " A Dtstinctiunculist."