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I 8:26. . the inquiring nd fairer judg e priestly con murder. The 's is, that none sup ply a safe " im pious and unjust to corn !te standard of lave not sworn .nd in another, s damnable ? urray was first :ns. His recent admits that he admits that to he publication. Indy opened . a aces, and all is him. During in the public!i -y called on in amen, to name errors of Dens to the demand, ends his clergy of study—nut yet the abomin intry has been and they have cially guarded. ng, if he bad, lined of recom er a year's ac, id demoralising recommending hus pictures of xistecce except framed of cog , which if they etreat of intel rot to be so em tligacv without id. No reason 'Ghee, was ac 'cli of Home of I do not ascribe :suit may have urselves called inslatinn likely Dr. Murray is ho are to inter- Rapturous anti defence which .turrity afforded ne to the heart :uliar point, in ely been visited istonces, there hear.) I con-, longer detain )rought against a dissemination the iniquitous nto public view those doctrines ;, or if, in the he Roman Ca pernicious chic been formally iberty of bring er consult the anntry at large, arch of Home of she had never doctrine of the leir theoretical pose of making ;reek down that acknowledged. been partially indulged with f the Church of aken place, I Id of wheat he nd, in like man er withhold the rive to mix up Far she has suc ;lid herself; for ; subjecting the v, and have al.; But now, in book which the n reading is the ou a subject of asure upon the jailed your own and vigour in will, by God's berefore, whitl has been front ;he has promul ant acts, those u the dark ages en promulgated s which I now ly those which defence of the •upted by some 'he accusations ire founded on f they admitted tion in either of tatements made prove that the rich she had in-. des having been tat the charges rave stated have the Church of we led her into upon those who , ' If of the charges said, I will beg his clergy by toinan Catholic ;ion sir; and the my remarks to ove the charge 0-fold capacity. n a former part ,ind. Dr. 1i ar- . should be read they have each the College of Dens, and this . !rnicious tenets Doyle declares where this pro his oath is in- . My respected' ly at Hereford, e may, I think,' tatement which h statement re intradiction. I t credit to any remained one ;bee stated that d the identical ilogue for 1811 looks published Dens' complete nice £3." Thii c colleges, and as the safest dic students a college in Ire an oath adrui- , din, at Cork, at n administered, booth there is an is the state of of the Church ens. There is is used, and in his works are that is used by Murray. He Illyaig the doc )1. that one or sale difference. a gentle and They say, it is s expressed Its are only a few id rigorous , to ties. We might he man whono said he, you; o saw me 'kil ,undred people (Cheers:). I g in judgment been accused " Most win -leny it. But K the whole of en laid to ray ability and 'ho lie day I 'have ty is to be put u are not able stand against be acquitted." rations against s.) dire know , exercised the D things which rs adduced of a th an agreeable a say, that -be neutral ingre hat the persell• no harm. We, en though all ue, and power, eh Church be impressions of ,ur is to be of of heresy; the of Rome pro' 4.0 intentions• ears of recoil , our individual Dry man would and propertY , lhat which verity, and and that called upon t" Id be presented ish for them in But it is the ws of the land , he rules of the against Dens, , having recom urch, then this Ile says that Mr. .6 hee— ttect and corn " blood-stained al to the Nadi crifice fur that stu;h an object , 1. On the one ggling to make on the other, the law °ppm miler Out We e the good and ;gentry of the nuersed in ter see those who OWINI,•••••••, Nor, 11, 136, reprobamus"—" We condemn and reprehate that sevin2 . , AnOther statement is—" the daferenre between the Jewish and the Christian (els-emu!: is, that, in the JewiSh covenant, God requires avoid:L.l'ae of sin, and a fulfilment of his law by a sin ner, leaving him dependeut on his own werkS; brit iii the tither, God gives to the sinner that he condemos purification by his. grace." Here agulin is what We delight in; and bonCerning this the Church of Itoune sags, Dainuarrnia et reprotaimus." Oh! sir, this is the gravaineo of the charges, after all, Which I bring against the Church of [tame, and those charges ale sup ported by the truths of God's word. these truths, the propagation of which, by God's grace have, and Will be the means of salvo tien to sinful inert. ([Tear. hear, and cheering.) AnThagainsl this—against the grace of God—against the word of God, the Church of Rome erects herself in a condemning .attitude. Against all that Gel has sent for bonging sinners to gliiry, she pronounces an anathema—she intredet•es a barrier between the g,oodaess of God and the dependence of man. She has snatched the sweetness that hung on the lips 111 our adorable Saviour, and has given to her votaries instead thereof a poison. We may' well congregate ouasel yes together iii protestant associations, not for the hatred, but for the love that we hear to ieti• fellow men, fir the desire that the grace or God should be felt—that they may learn and know what Jesus did for us—that they may learn and know that the blood of Christ cleanseth us from all sin—that they may hear the delightful saying, that " through this man is preached to them the forgiveness of sin," and that "all who bedeve in him are justified in all things from which they could not he justified by the law of Moses,"—that they may learn that Jesus Christ is " the end of the law for right eousness to every one that believet —that believing, and being justified by faith, they may " have peace with God," and find themselves within that holy embrace where sanctification is im bibed—that they may find themselves on a foundation pure anti holy, whare a the sinner is invited to stand as a sinner, that, standing there, he May be embr -:ed as it saint. it is that they may know his glorious gospel—it is that they may win their way through all by faith into an atmosphere of holiness—to find their hearts eleYated—desire to glorify God, and look forwards to the scene beyond the grave. It is this th a t swot tens the calamities of life—relieves all its difficulties—and sweetly soothes all its fears ; —which triumphantly overeoines the fears of death, by the "love of God shed abroad in their hearts through the Holy Ghost giveu unto them." It is that the hive of God may be shed abroad in the hearts of every one in Ireland, as well as in England, that we thus toil, that we may have than satisfaction of glorying in the salvation of our sinful fellow-creatures. (Cheers.) Oh, sir. the Church of Rome draws sinners front this happy consolation. She interposes between God and the sinner certain conditions which draw hint back from the enjoy ment of the happiness purchased by the blood Of the Lamb. This unnatural stepmother keeps him hack, and after death purgatory must free him and fit blue for eternity.' ( Hear.) But there is a consolation when I look aru,s.nd anti see that the councils of Ahithophel were turned into foolishness, for iu the recent attempts to import into Great Britain mutilated portions of the word of God, the perpetrators I will call them of that deed, in endeavouring to do so have removed front the greet building of our constitution a stone that will grind their seheine.s to powder. (Hear.) I, sir, however, have in my mind's eye what will effectually counteract this novel importation df scraps of God's holy word. I wish that it may be heard quietly—that it may be received determinate's% and acted upon perseveringly. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) 1 wish—von wish it to r.ei gieeted as your forefathers would greet it. I will mention it in two words, and I know you will receive it as Englishmen ought to rereiva it. I mean the cry of "no popery." (Cheers Which lasted for some tune.) Union is indispensably necessary fur this purpose. Perseverance is indispensably necessary. Decision is indis pensable. It is not only necessary in order to carry that Cry into effect, that it should be well received in a public meeting. God works by means. It is our privilege to he intelligibly in structed in the nature of those means —and we are accountable to God for their employment. If you will revive that cry with effect let each begin it at home—let every christian mother be gin it in her nursery—let every christian schoolmaster begin it in his school, pointing out, not the opposition of man against man, but the opposition of the creed of Pius the dth, with all its adjuncts, against the Word of God, and rearing the young man with a reference to the Bible enthroned upon every faculty of the moral and spiritual being of the child. (Cheers.) Yon must net in this matter look for assistance from government. do net speak politically, but no acts of Parliament can achieve what I now desire, no act of men or ministers can do what we want to be done. It is not to he done by whigs. It is not to be dime by tories. - Bet it is to be done by readers avid lovers of the Worth of God. The middle classes of this nation have been practically addressed by the legislature, and' political power has been placed in the hands of the community at large. I do not allude to this politically, neither do I express my opinion upon late political measures; but in the existing state of the country, I have no hesitation in saving to you who are now as sembled here, that if you do not exert yourselves, you will have the Scriptures torn front the hands of your children by a people who jesuitikally profess to universal charity, It, then, you des. dare that you will not have the Bible wrested from your hands, you must be determined to have a government of men who will make the Bible the basis of all wive, neient, for what is scrip turally wrong can never be politically right. We would be liberal, and give to all protection to property, and freedom of opinion; but perish England, rather than the Bible should perish out of England. (Cheers.) Ile begged, to remind the audience that they would have an opportuhity of giving a prac tical prbof of their attachmeht to the principles they were that day met to advocate, by contributing at the doors to a collection that would be made on behalf of the schools which had been established since the Corporation Schools haul been deprived of the Bible. The rev, speaker then said, he Would take the liberty of reading to them a passage from a speech delivered by into some time ago in Scotland, and which contained his deliberate sentiments, and much better expressed than he could express them, then, in his exhausted state. [The rev. gent. then read a portion of a speech which appeared in the Liverpool Standard a few weeks since.] I cannot conclude wit hout congsatidatirig this meeting and the whole town, upon the gratifyieg fact that the resolution of our town council, - ;tilopting the Irish sv,t,ot of education in their schools, and themel.y excluding the Puilita, h s been practically rescinded. If it be not rescinded, the Bible is still excluded; but upon the combined and unanswerable testis mony of Mr. Rathbone, Mr. Blackburn, and Mr. Withusley, .1 proclaim the cheering intelligence that the Bibld is not ex cluded, and, consequently, the resolution of July is practically rescinded! 1 have much pleasure in moving that the following gentlemen be requested to act as the committee of our associa tion for the ensuing year. The rev, gentleman read the names of the committee, and sat down amidst tumultuous and pro tracted cheering. The Rev. FREDERICK BARKER then came forward. He said, he would not detain them any time by pointing out what he had intended, had sufficient space beau given, but he would just take the liberty of reminding them that there was a Protestant Association'established, and that if its funds were increased its objects could be extended ; and these objects were, the diffusion of information amongst teir Protestant and Catholic fellow tnwnsmen for the propogation of truth, and to destroy error. The rules of the association had been originally for this end ; and he would call the attention of the labouring classes in par ticular, (many of whom he was glad to Sea around,) and of all .classes professing the Christian faith, that those who subscribed 5s annually, or gave a donation of one guinea at any one time, could become a member of this essociation ; and all persons of the poorer classes who might subscribe to the sub-collectors go i n g round, ltd per week for one year, should also be members of the assocation. An annual subscription fiont a tradesman of ss, constituted a member of the society ; or, one penny a-week paid to any of the collectors constituted a member of the asso ciation. The reason why they should thus combine haul been so very ably stated, that he felt it might be impertinent to at tempt to offer any additions. But he would just remind them that they hail frequently been taughtby one whose conduct had been marked more by the success which had attended his pro gress, than the upholding of any-true principles, " that nothing could be done without uutty of action." 'l'lo were the wools of the great agitator O'Connell in prosecuting the work which he haul so fearfully begun, when addressing one of his co-auSiu tors, "that nautili{ could be done without unity of action."— He therefore csi:ed anti them to unite with them in securins the truth which they had received, and preserving it for themsel yes and their children. And it should be borne in mind, that it was not a matter in which the clergy were alone concerned; they were helping the laity to maiutaia their own rights,—they were helping their poor brethren to have their children educat ed according to the truths of God, and they were helping those who had great rights to secure to maintain those lights, and hand them down as they haul received them from their fore father'. This could only be dime by unity. And'if it was a time when "rogues were combined," it surely was a time when " henest men should be acting; in unity." (Cheers.) In order to do this, they must have one common business of action, and that common business was the word of God. (Heat.) Setting out on this, they found it as necessm yto maintain the truths uf Gird, as the government of any coil-01.y. They found what was to be done evil, must he practised against ; evil must be kept under. found it was according to the principles of army bod y i,f men to slight some of th e first, Wh , t they the holiest see saws o f God's truth, (and they brought this charge agaiust the Roman C a tholics.)—they nut only protested against the evil of their tieing permitted to dictate as to the mode of their (the Protestants) operatiohs, either political or social, but they must take such measures as would prevent them doing this. When .they found that a large body of individuals' who were sworn to observe that the law as regarded property and the church. suouh! be upheld as appointed, though in thus oath which they took there was no exemption of ecclesiastieat property, d ye late late this oath ;it was high time for them to lift up tieer :e l , against such a procedure. He would ask them to lools o. t?..' n e . , oaths that the Roman Catholic members of the il"'e „l i e t MnlT mons took before they became legislators. They ;‘, ) h re th ' e settle' to the utmost of their power to support utto ueo i ( ) Church and ment of property in these realms—the Protest. to weaken the Protestant faith as established in t • - govertiment—arid never by word or deed attelni'lt:iine,apny:xsa: ( Hear.) This, too, they swore, and declared to do in the plain and ordinary sense of the u'iath which the t h tie y .., were it t i : o re u t t .t a r l e ly d mental reservation whatever. (Hear, hear.) wan these words. Catholic members of Parliament have to take. iniii the When they contrasted with the laustuars n—Ph(), dinti k e e n t ( I l i h e t a o e vo ( lf ) con duct of many members of p a rliatne h i o a ,c,, , , he would say that it both in the house and out of the such evil principles' as was time for the protestant cemmudn of their danger, and join heart,nsicet counteract and obviate the c these. (Cheers.) ut d ie resolution to the meeting, and it The CHAIRMAN then p was onanimly The Bev. ous Mr. TATTBBSWALI, saij ,understanding t •- he last re= d amt also ) solution to have heath else , g be being informed that it was the last resolution was to submitted to the present adopted. meetings he had taken the liberty of (main_ forward under cir cumstances somewhat different front those in which his rev. brethren had come forward before him on the present occasion. The res. gentlemen who haul spoken had each been followed by one seconder, but he hoped the resolution he was about to propose would not require he to have on e secon d er, b ut woul d h ave seve ral thousan ds. resolution he haul to pro; osO was, "'that the cordialhathvainng taken thisksonftthe chi meet;iir g d presided meeting; be o C n this. o F e a e r at e s t. n %," Esql for le should not wait for env seconder, but should l o „); for that expression on the part of the meeting which the occasion called for. (This announcement was received with great cheering.) The Ctlatast AM then stepped forwards. Ile said, for this unexpected mark o f th e i r ki n d ness, they wo illut believe him, he begged leave to retu rn Ahem his most sincere and cordial thanks. fie thanked them f u r the indulgence which they haul given him, and which, during a meeting seldom equalled in point of numbers and unevalled in point of dura tion, by their exemplary patience, had rendered his offiee almost a sinecure. Ile had only one request to mnke—that this meet ing, which had commenced with prayer, would most appropri ately conclude with praise, which he hoped wont(' be the case. "'Praise God from whom al! blessings flow" was then snu g , the whole assemblage joining in the hymn. The effect of the united voices of such an immense concourse W 39 peculiarly solemn and impressive. The assembly then quietly dispersed at about hill -paint four o'clock, the meeting havicg lasted five hours and The collection made at the doors amounteds...ll , J 5. ------------ THE MONEY MAI:KET.—RA PELF. Ex-rusoapi dwity.—S is uCh is the estimation in which the King's picture, sec in gol, he:(1 at Bury, that the other night a sovereign Iva!, pa up and actually raffled fur at 225. The u Miter and owner spending each half a-croven. If this is disputed, inquire. at " Italph•onlies," King's Head, King-street, 13.ttry. TowN_cot! NCI L PROCEEDINGS, On 7ednesday th 6 ni!W Town Council hcld its first itiarttif ply. 11r. tzT, t the late Mayor; ?laid his lahodri that meeting. ‘A at y C u were nirl o a , w re; were very light. H e t oo k the chair Merely to give them an optiortunity of appointing hid successor ; and he had ne doubt, on whomever that choice might, tall, he would be interested solely by this deSire of pro: moting the welfare of the town. propose Councillor RaTiseask fseggen to Mr. Earle, junior, as a fit aud proper man to rid the office. of Mayor. In Si) doing, he thought the retinen counrel ceind not better repay the oblinations which they owed to hini i'ur his exertions in the cause of reform. Mr. Councillor Joust HoLsius begged to sebehd the Mr. Cc time having put the tinestion to the comiell; IFITs Earle ‘i•as iicattimausly elected. Mr. Currie then resigned hid seat to the newly elected Ma y or. The NIA viiit then said—" If ever I aptike the truth I do so now, when I say that I. nr7er was ambiti o us of a seat in thid Chair. considering the corrupt meanswhirls - were farmerlk taken to attain it. I never could then attach any hntiour to the situation ;.And it is only surprising that so 111.10 , idrlivldoals should be foolish enough to spend vast dtims Obtiiieini , it; especially when it kinwit that It will next lit imptrisibie td screw a single shilling nut of their,,tiorkets, except it Were hi, the gratification of their own selfish vanity, though at the time the gold vas absolutely greWing mouldy in their coffers. A fundamental change has since taken place. It would ill become nie to think lightly of the honour Yief have dotie tit this day, seeing so many around me so much better able to fill this chair. It is- sn honour I had no right to aspire to, to preside over a council of so enlightened and respectable a body or my fellow townsmen ; a burly, too, chosen by the people at large,—it in an honour I never could have aSpired to; I am well aware that I am indebted to your opinitin of thy feeble advocacy of the cause of reform for the position which new occupy, when I was not supported by friends as I now run bid when it was endeavoured to stran g le et its birth every measu re which had for its object the advantage of this great corn meicial community. Last year the saute feeling iduced yo 4 to elect my excellent; and worthy friend, our lath e)t; celleut chief magistrate. Ili hint vou found Many, if tin; all the qualifications necessary to till this situation with satisfac; tion to the town at large—f hear), lam sure you must be aware—if not, I am—that Ido not possess those qualifications... However this deficiency on my part edhances the compliment on yours, and I can only say I am gilt aware in my preSidinf.f here when my pi edeees,or will be fresh in your recollection, it must naturally make me suffer by the comparison. I shall; howevat, endeavour to discharge my duties faithfully and td the best of my ability —(Hear.) It only remains for me td • thank yon ; and I only regret that I cannot call any language s l ifficirenly s trong te express all I feel on the occasion.—; (Cheers.) The Towsr-cLane then said, the first besinss the would have to pertortn would be to fix the days on which should be held the three quarterly counetli. Thek were gene; rally held in the months of February, May, and August, for the bowing year, in addition to the one appoinW by Act of Par• liament. The terttre adopted on a former occasion was that, they should tie heel, on the first Wednesday in the months of refirnarv, May, and Nitgest, and at the hour of eleiien 'rhe Mason then pet the question if the council Would ti/t tiff t first Wednesday of these months fur the meeting of did quarterly councils at l I o'clock, which was agreed ta: Tilt .I,AVERPOOT , .STANDARb have sworn to protect. ' . 1 1. them, but do we see them entinne l'''''Pl'"y , so itrovoldnfAv true, contains ward toth it • tor- , sir, to be greve.. Thi, - • .assistatitee—do we see them atternpthie tim ;elle. ! a statement petyl.inely lake aeotinst She Res: Sll. o•Su!liven. eV tia ' tte ell (ii tress • - tees" sas promised to do? Instead of +teeing. I Neither ou any former oec t isioin tier on this day, hes'he intered them . c .,, a . - hie for - ,•.1 , e for tit tell the people that they are honestly ha ' atty niise charge aes t iost th e ci rei t e e a ree t „,_„,e t e„. has e _ seet tli t - :ntlfilinent of their promises, end in honesty hound to he tit-tried one syllable; whieh; in the inind Of any impattittl 7 ... _ , i.r , teem, we see them standing forward to increase the, tnen, contains, a vestige of personality. (Hear, hear, and ~,'''''..!, In su c h a t i me i i it fittingnnat men should be ashamed , eiteers.) If so, where are the proofs ? .It is easy to ''' 31, 11111 in, forward -• ' • sr • '' • • • .• t5 .,,, ,i ,„ ~ e in sie.ence ot their print tides? We hear • cry out ' 1 M isrepi•esentation !" ``Calumny!" With all their ~,., ~ .11 pa l l ets t h at t he re i s p e a s e prevailing in Ireland. W e otaer adjuncts; hut, let moe ask, who'are the miseepiesenters of i llutior ei t t i gratulated - on all• hands that Ireland is at peace, while the Church o( Reuse? ‘Vlio are the celumnietors? e s Who is tat p eace so ca ll e d the rights of the clergy are all buried, the 1111.11 that advances false tiliarges against that Church ? Mr. Bed the peuee ~, very meu who now seek assistance .prove that this - Chairmah, suppose the Archbishop of Canterbury had an object fell i„'‘,1101 Peace;—it is only repose which is taken, while the to obtain with some Sociniau cotninunity, and that he perceived li 2 .n .s b er of tyranny elutobers. Yea, altiomets this peace is that, in order to obtain his object, that Secinian community that it i y occasioinal . shocks yet thesenof themselves indicate must be - Made to think well of his church and himself. And „,,... ,, ,,. 6 only a s l am i, er Tiloseirighte which the powerful es- soppose him going to them .tuck saying, "I do entreat you nut l vv c.c ti l i t , e , .. , ,7,,re to protect are violated. (Loud. cries of "Hear.") to intarken to the bigotted ruisrepeesentations of intetested in cattimAire' to hear that the rihts of ministers- of the gospel tlividuals, who represent my church as now maintaining the n a , ,,, recovered, that the n taw is impotent Mel-tell. Cehalf, mysterious dogmas of the Trinity and the incarnation—it is iii_t),ll :the same sentenee, to heir of rejoicMg e bectiuse in true she did hold these things in a firmer age ;—(llear, ~an. ntry ever thing is at peace—to scare away from the hear, and loud continued cheers;)—hut she has become more en kta" Processit t lightened by associating with you liberal gentlemen, and does of ~, , e (. in tae '.lassed looks Ilan hitoken the hears-sickness 1 4 :- ,, 1 hopes—hisl the ininisters of the Gospel and Young, fami- that hold those doctrines now. Nothing but the veriest deter inrt_ beck to their sorrow•fulabutles—to bid them there waste snination to calumniate can perievere in ascribing to her those ti !'al'lli. the unseen dreath and, when some victim of conciliation dirk and mysterious dogmas." l'his would sound wen—it, 0 1 1 ,7 t 1;1 1 1 :ers from the treacherous tranquillity over which the hark might throw dust in many eyes. But suppose a Sueinian to, is carefully eweepiug, to forget him so soon as the ripple stand 'up tvho bad the liberty of examining for himself, anti say, oil the e, •t "'Nee has been s i neothed—so e o nn as the wail for his Your Grace, may I take the liberty to inquire, have you not Cparture - has died away, and the heart it broke still, and to col- sinned the thirty-nine articles? Are not the doctrines in clues _ lect all the romantic sensibilities of the liberal and enlightened, tint there? 0, your GSace, your Grace! You have two ob that they , e , . may grace and cheer the misuse of the lawless wretch jests in view : one amongst your own people by signing the ar ;l4laitni s . been made an instrument to du wrong, not knowlng tides ; the other amongst us by denying the doctrines you trivee'e did, or of the caitiff who has for his own base ends con- have sworn to. 0, your Grade, the Church of England . does this; . the crime and stimulated the offender—is it in a time like lioldthese doctrines. Your Grace must stand or fail by; them. wantonly it should ;be'accounted wrong to aim at asserting rights so At-id yet you come ti, deny them. Ilia you are detected: your % .7 . , a t e lo.lily invaded? Oh, sir, it is a nerarieus strife which is church is still - basbareus, and yourselves—We Socinians are too n St e g d aeliinst ecclesiastical property in. Ireland. Nut only is pulite to say what yoli are.". (Laughter and cheers.) Who 11 1 , e stru gg i e d e ni e d w i t h a e o n, au ,: petioreii.violation of a most is the man, diet), thtit inisrepte•eents the Church of Rome ? Is i ' l l t.. _l:in compact, but the instruments blindly incited to engage it the Rev. Mortnner p'Suiiivau or the most Rev. Dr. Mtir l.a.nite strug,gle put their bodies and souls in peril without the ryy.—(Cheers.) lie is: the - misrepresenter of Popery, becadse 1 ! t ie eat prospect t h at . t h ey ca n be benefited he the issue._ he . is the denier of h•te established formularies. I shall have ; ` . , 1 , • ' r.) Would the ProteStant in Ireland protith by the extinc- occasiiin to advert, amid shad de it as briefly as possible, to a 'lV:.er the clerwyman's righte. If he did. we could understand few of those formulariee, in order to fasten' more satisfactorily de ',F• e lliere was ' design in his dishonesty, - Hepould our pay a the charge uptm the church . of Rome, whose doctrines anti „tale beCause hi s cre dit or say a Protestant clergyman, and t o their practical operation - in these days has called our Pro `,,eailiount he withlield - frorn hint he Vises enriched. But it is testant Association into existences—( I lean hear! and cheers.) ~,I l t known that the mere abolition of 'tithe could produce no You have heard, sir, and this whole assembly have heard, l•Z . :d.effect ; the landlord would still exact the vtilue of his land, where the accretlited formularies of the church of Rome ate to let hisuerightens the abhorrence with which this warfare against be found. The creed of Pope Pius IV. has been again and fir . ch Property is regarded, to remember that its victims are again alluded to : . it has been • set forth, nut merely by Pro tTgi ill l a class who suffer, as all ackuow iedge, so undeservedly, testant misrepresenters, as we are calumniously, and falsely , and ammo; those who can derive no advautage from the suffer- called, but by Roman' Catholics - themselves, as the most Logs_ they inflict : and that these who benefit by the war, incur authentic summary of their finenularies. Dr. Milner, the ';' , Or s e of its dangers, so far aS this world is concerned, and un- ;author of the celebrated book testiest l'"The End of Coutro ", r tend thoroughly the oblieet ions %el ich•ehotild have dissuaded versy," ayhe creed or Pius IV. is eVery where received and teem from ; '''' • -.. ' thane ,in prime:mg it.—(Cheers.) - But, sir, on the part of professed, as the groupilwork of Cuthoiicism ; and Doctor . say, 'cola whom I have besot privileged to ton I feel that I may Doyle, wheneexanmied before a cominittee of the House of and in my own name I most solemnly affirm that the tno- Lords, slid," The most approved stud authentic summary of tiles aseribedtott4 - arealtitethir the invention of him who im- the eel a the• •Chuieh andem Will be found in the deereee Petes them. of the Councit or Trent in tin: • ft' • ft•h b P . ant Most Wi”iiw'y Would I scathe Church of Engl. I pits es o ait y Pius. In Irela;ndmade ." --.' . r- • . ' • I IV.. itiel in whit we call the ltienisti catechism or the Council hp le . , subject to a fair trial. • !Host witengly would 1 ~, e r . , : every complaint eeainst her examined—every iusinuation. of '!'rent_". Similar ties the. answer of Doctor Murray sitagainst her doctrines or her temporalities, estitteated to the Commissiouere of the Melee of Commons.—(Hear.) it Its (hie importance; and any charge, which was for her good - Yon'obsee - now that the creed or Puts the 4th is here referred .Id the national welfare, and the interests a religion fearlessly hY the'lls"ly"'• You hive beard one pessage if that creed iargied into execution of the Chisreh of En2land, that 1 arraign ' , already read' by 7,1 r. O'Sullivan- 1 will not read the whole; ' b ile doctrines of Rome. My motives are euch as I dee'are them bite refer to it to set it again before your minds :—".Like r.explaining, wherever men assemble, the justice of the all other things delivered, defined, and declared by the sa eth4.i.i"; ~ Which they had once diStinctly acknowledged. Ni,, cred canons anii the general councils, and particularly by . the "Y hvie orm.privilsige by s•tvearitoe, an oath—they inav convert sacred Council of 'Freon I toiliesitatingly receive and profess." 11 )r t avilege into power by breaking, it ; and many who had `This occurs in the form of the oath taken by every Rowel' Ca "e•lged themselves toletimlv to support the minister in his died- tholie clergyman oti his induetion to a benefice. It binds host witless, ' f ll that i• • .i . n • d•l e , ale °mid to be raisi ng_ up the difficulties and crew- !(;" . s t...) tame ii th couneils, especially that ofTrnt. l ag the perils be trhich his rinhts are to -he overborne. If I lie Council - of Trent, at its; 25th session, declares e,oncerning i n k state of thihesS like this, it was. an object to expose the the 4th Council Of Lateran, held under innocent the 3d, that it por.ineiples and purposes 4 those who would sap the foundations was a yodel-al council, and in the 21th session, of the same coun , e r-tinht by fraud; and shake them by vitilence. there is surely cil, it is (led - tired te be a sacred cOuncil. The Coo it of Late ...1'791111 in such an, ,object which deinand's - citneeelmeete and ren declares, that "secular princes shall, if necessttrv, be com le.ll the timeintiresuch that gentle words must be sptiken, and pelb2cl if they desire to lie accounted fiiithful that for the Jet iadignatiou smothered, when ciretitnetahees of great error- defence of the Isiah they shall publicly make oath that laity are hinted at—when melt have ;so forgotten the terms in thee' •eill endeavour, bone fide, with all their might. to hat perjury and lender should be denouticed, that a Itornish tirpate from' their kinigdoins all heretics marked by the ) !'" , np shall boastfully de - claim:upon the suceessful issue of the elmreh. And. the object of it is stated at the end of the next 1 1 ° Ienee which he was sworn to repress—When the government paragraph :—" That the heretics being exterminated, good ea rall be found conning congratulations on what it pleases to thoiics shall; without contradiction, posse=s the land, and pre ",'.r.rn the tranquillity of the realm, while every now and then serve it in the purity of the faith." (Hear, hear.) Sir, 1 al sn ieks are fearfully felt, and warnings fitfully uttered, which ways feel, whether in speaking myself on these subjects, or ob- Proclaim . t h e st ill ness of d ece it—while, wherever the calm-re- serving the effect of other persons in speaking, that the neces maills unlit oken, it is but as the repose in which violence re- sary detail in order to gather elements for our conclusion, etuits itself when it, has triumphed over law, would it be nuns- leecomes somewhat heavy and tiresome to the listeners. But tul'al were we to speak Of those wrongs anti sufferings which we without some patience and attention you cannot get at an tare made to endure? If 1 might be allowed to introduce an realty worth carryin;e away. I shall endeavour to relieve you "*regularitv, sir, into your meeting, I would prove that our de- presently by a different species of address, but at present I must sighs are sinwle Dr. Murray has said that the Church of crave your attention. 'lle creed of Pius IV. contains this England ''' ' unless she reforms her homily, and the Church of statement, in the oath administered to the priests,—that they Scotia. A' - • n her catechism, neither have any right to complain of fess and rece e "unhesitatingly pro • iv ail that is contained in their hens, A s t o th e Church of Scotland she will not he slow to do general . ..councils, especially the Council of Trent." Turn to _ her duty. (Hear, hear.) The Church of England I hope, and Trent—'f rent turns,them back to another, which it cabs gene !}ae is called upon for it, will do hers. Our church prouniinces ral and sacred. 'lurn to the other,. and it binds them to the that in her homilies are sound doctrines, but our church does liersecution unto extermination of heretics.—( Hear.) So that not say, dues not believe, that every word in them is perfect, or the oath of the yriesta binds them to the creed of Pope Pitts that eVerY word is inviolable in anything but the Holy Scrip- IV,—Pius IV. fonds them to Trent,—Trent binds them to La tures. gut Dr. Murray charges us with being wrong, in the teran,—and Lateran binds them to the extermination of heretics. very outwork of our church. He charges us at once with here- —(Applause.l This is the line of argument. There is another 3 Y, and with caring less for doctrines than interests. Might it armored from which a similar conclusion may be deduced. The net s he expedient' to address a letter to Dr. Murray, calling cation law of the Church of Rouse is anotlier of her authentic uPon him distinctly to name' the grounds of his accusations, documents, with the contents of which she is justly chatgeable. agetinst our church. (Loud cheers.) The letter might be Its definition has been giveh by Dr. Murray, in an examination 'aritten in some such way as the following; not that I would before a select committee of the House of CoMmons, on the 17th Prescribe a direct form, but it might be a sort of platform on Me y, 1825. From this we learn, that when a decree collies forth wllich the substance could be placed. Thus:—" Most reverend from the Pope, concerning matters of doctrine, if net dissented sir.—you you'ha,..,3 been leased to inculpate the Church of Hug- from hy, a majority ef t the bishops of the church dispersed; it by land by a statement which insinuates that 'she teaches doctrines their silence assumes the aspect of the opinion of the church, of equal iniquity with those set forth - by Professor - Dens. :On which is infallible, and thereupon becomes binding on every catholic, ttehelf o f t h e Church of England I call upon you to name the ulic. Here is the eighth volume of Dens. It c ontai n s tle grounds of such sin ai•easation, and so far fiom being augry or cress from Popes, put forth in the very manner specified in the v isiting y.out reply with opprobrium, I hereby state that we shall question andanswer ehibedied in the examination of Dr. Mur thhnk• Yott; for the coriimunication, and that if you make it Tay' It contains decrees not dissented frotn—decrees now by knonrn to us ;that there are in our, church any such gross Dr. Murray'e own last letter asseuteit to. ,Therefore these bulls leleanishei ma thle doctrines of not keeping faith' awl the hunt- • of the Pope's being put forth as a challenge to the bishops of log to death or heretics, you will find us diligent in prosecuting the church dispersed, to ascertain whether they believe in and; t he,Ptmedies for the reitttv'el of such blemishes. of the existence accede to the doctrines contained iu those bulls, and hi - tying , 4 .which we. never hitherto had any notion." Might it not passed niuster,—teat is; the dispersed bishops nut haViug'dis- I, s, sented fruintlient, nay, rather having actually assented to them, a expedient, to address a letter of this sort to the reverend doctor ? Wily do we oppose the doctrines of - the Church of —beiceme . the rtile of the Roman Cathone Church, and in tha I Rome e It is because -"their doctrines are false ! (Cheers.) latiguage of Dr. Murra every cetholic is bound to subiliit to I trust there is. not elle who hears me who would not be as them. I; twill read a passage from ; one - of them. It occurs at ready to cry out . agitinst the, Church of England as aga i„ st page 176 of the eighth volume of Dens, under the head of the (l'hurch of ilotue,_ if he could lind that her doctrines were liestitutio : • d t,!,4 ,,,,, Lea by it e stone iniquity • ev e should la, w ini ng . to „ Real property taken.by,an enemy in an unjust war, suppose clifilifid" - at °nee if we c,m1,1 sett in our svatem the' saute errors by pirates, infidels, heretics, am., oven if ;t be bought by the. that w . e, see in the Chilled-. of Beene. They were errors of lore; fai.Vlll—( bi ottani.. a fiCle t i b I" )C ought, nevertheless, to be stitudiug: I hope that those members of - the Charc•lt of Rome ,-restored to its proper owner, nu price being exacted for the in Ireland, Syhti will speedily see bow they have beets misled, same, which decree was formally Londe by the congregation for 'tilil who if they find that thee , cahoot t torm the errors of that propagating the faith, in the yew . 163(i, whose opinion Benedict church, ..yill at once contemn (slit. (Hear, hear, and cheese.) >••• e r IV. admits in his Epistle to P. Nicoleus Lercari. the secretary of the same congregation. (Bullarium, tom. hi, No. 57.) .Brit f n tort spirit of the words of Your report 'wit! I conclude pre xis to Chattel property, the saute congreghtion thought that it sinus to the propesal a the ritsithition-which has been entrusted should be restored .by • the purchasers to its hateful owner, the toitne, those words which' express your - firth and deliberate do - twice for which itesas bouelii being, however, exacted from him. termination " that the /mann-its of Gthi muet not be set aside ; In this, however, Benedict eilV. does not prunouuce his judg that there is revealed truth; that both rulers anti people May wt." 'lntl em lit to know its that both rulers and people are bound to This decree was formally made,by the congregation for pro give it practical reverence in their cettutil chamber', in the ma gating the faith in 1630. Here is a decree from the• Pope seuete-house, in the schottl, in .the family, as well its the closet • I respecting the restitution of forfeited property: It is put forth that if auyOf.our fellow-evittrymen b 1 ignorant of this high to the dispersed bishops. They do not ilissent;—it be a Principle and the duties consequent thereon, they should be couditiou of the church—the infallible rule to which every Ca instructed ; if any have forgotten, they should be reminded; tholic is bound to submit. (Hear, hear.) 'lbis is in the hook if any. be heeitating they should be - decided ; if any he timid, n chosen for the teaching of the Catholic priests. There is theyfor should be encout • siged; if any be supine, they' should be stimulated. Su that our rulers may know, kind the nation may felled property in Ireland now, and every - one is bound to submit the very moment that outward circumstances will allow to die Know, and the whole 'ci‘ilized world may know, that England 'and the Bible are so linked together that no infidel philosophy, restitutiou of that property to its original ownen—yea, though such may, in the mean time, have been purchased by the faith ne cereal ,esenproinise, uo unnatural coalition between the disciples -Of liberality and the discildes of intolerance can ful. (Hear, and cheers.) The defence made against the charge dissolve tlie indissoluble bend. And that tel liberalism shall here brou g ht against the Church of Rome before the House or aye su6l.!efred in extingetishinte the voice of conscience, when Commune was—"lt is impossible we can contemplate the resti 11Mery shall have succeded in enthroning the doennas of her tuti on Of p ro p erty in Ireland." Why? " I3ecause a large apost ac y iu the chair of unqaeslioned infallibility, when in - P ro r ation of the forfeited property has been bought by Oaths,- lidelii y shall have succeeded in burning up the last copy of the lies. The reason sufficed to, blind the committees. it con- Bible as a scroll, when atheism shall hive succeeded iuexpelling vinced some o f our se nato rs. Mr. Blownlow g ave it as his the liVilig God fsoui his own creation, then, btu not before reason for changing his opinion respecting what Was called droll England be deprived of her constimtitse, the p a lladium of Catholic emaneiliation• Yet the case thus put forth as the satis. "'id met religions' liberty among. niankind.'"rhis is the (sing cireunistence is one of the very cases supposed in the de civil in which protestants should meet tegether. (Loud and eree and provided fur: "Si emantur a fitielibas. "rhotwil it be , Hag continued cheering.) Tio, reverend gentletnan concluded bought by the faithful it must he restored. (Cheers.) But the tiy uinvi ag "That the report he adopted, printed, and circulated." most Reverend Doctor Murray and others have sworn to the T. Poese en, Esq , briefly seconded the motion, which w-as contrary. Here is the declaration made on oath of the arch carried unanimously. bishops and bishops of the Church of Ireland to the late Lord The Rev. 1 - /- M!Nnttn rose to propose the nex! resolution, Liverpool: and was greeted is ith euthusiastic cheers. lie said,—Mr.Chair- "l‘lie Catholics of Ireland, far from claiming any right or loan, ladies. and gentlemen, I had fully expected that the time title tieforfeited lands resulting from any right, title, or interest of the meeting would have been occupied, not only by our re- which their anceettas may have bad therein, declareupou oath, ;•erenti friend who has just addressed you; but by our absent that they will defend to the utmost of their power, the settle larother the Rev. Robert M`Gliee, of whom I need say no more meta' and arrangement of property in-this country-as established than that hi s defence is.as :tintile, as his accusation is aeriinoni- by the laws now in being. They also disclaim, disavow, anti "s• I mention it to account 'tor my comparative non-prepara- solemnly a bjure any iutentiun to subvert the present church tiou to „ ccapy the place iu „, h i ch 1 now clam ! • I sa y e p repa . establishment for the purpose of substituting a Catholic estab lj°ll," becauee I wood unfeignedly *think front tressptissing on lishment in its stead. And, nuttier, they swear they will not the indulgence of my leiiel friends whom I see around me, and exescise any ,priviiege to whick they. are or may be entitled, to w hose iuduigtince I have indeed previously experienced,-1 disturb :Ind weaken the Protestant religion and Protestant ‘,.°" 141 nufei,i,nedly shriek front p res uming t o o ccupy the post- governaeut its Ireland.", ~ t '" 11 in whirl, 1 suit', w itl o o.lt h a v i I) g ma d e the fullest ili'l most New, observe thls, - --the Pope puts forth a decree that .real Intineneking preperatien that time innd opportunity would her. Property taken by enemies is to be restored. 'ibis goes forth to °lit. But, 1 *apt also, '• cempariitive non-prepar:ltioo , ,, —h ,_ the bishops of the church dispersed. !Thee do not object to it,— v 'mlso, Sir, I thank my Gud• througa Jesus CI • •tour Lord, .1, • tits it becomes time law of the church infallible, and every Catholic that • the ' . ' ' . ,- lu mouse v i. 1 . iiaestautistu, welch is the cenee of ever- is bound to enbinit to it. Dr. Alusray and his coadjutors, the Luting truth, hi, has . not left ine to be sit time weeny ulliere- archbishops and bishops of Ireland, are asked by England's pared. .(LoulTeheariest.) . NOW, Sir, I W. 414 take the liberty, Prime 'Minister, what their opinions and deterininations are !" the first place, of a ddressing a f e w' w ords t o any individuals resoection forfeited entoe• - tv. They know the ',Pope sent this in this vast aseembly, who may be uufm rientily to the objeet for; —the know they did n e , e•-jset to it—they know not ohjecte which this meeting is couvened. I would request such persons ing to it) it - has become the 'eafellible rule of 'the courtesy to re metn e e s w h et I d au to n u t, will he received as a truth by the. "'cry Catholieiß bound to . sutimit to ii. And te•hat sit ? intelligent persons hefOrp:me, that public meetings of anything " Sosfar fromnieknewledging line right or title to forfeited S m it e , 'approaching to the dimensieris of the present are not suitable we declare upon oath that 7e eeill, defend, to the utmost of our arenas for teetmlotrical diseeissionst. 'rhe subjects invol - .red iti such Powere the present arrangement." .Who then is the niisrepre t,liscuisio„,. demand patience,—they demand invest4;a!ion,— senter ef the cllurch of ilereieivho, is the caluniniater 1 Sir, ' c 'sfore a ve rdict can with any Propriety lie pronounced. '!'here- it.is guile obvious that it • wittild nut have auswered the purposes "'re, while public' meetings are adinirable Mediume for giving, of the church - tit Rome honeetly It have acknovsleclged the . p an impulse to already wilting minds, they are altogether unsuit- ciples contained in this and similar books which are the infallible °i sle places for theological discussions. Therefore, if 'any of rules.qf their. church. It is obvious that such anacknowledg u°' Roman Catholic fellow townsmen should next week, or the ment would have created an "real amajtirity aga inst th em i n week after, at their Own convenience. choose to coevene a pub- this country as to have rendered utterly hopeless any idea of their regaining their political aseeudancy. What then . witS to ~", e meeting at this place, and appoint their speakers and give ' rib tickets, and declare that the meeting is rett for discussion, be (lone? flow were these decuments to be Maintained in un disputed power over the Roman Catholic mi n ds and at the same nnil that n o p e rson will be allowed to speak, but under the di - time to be concealed from the impertinent and premature curi re. section of the chair, I will venture to promise for the Proles- osity of Protestants ? Here was a problem to be staved. We Laut community of thiS town;—if any of them come into this may imagine some such debate going on as this, " One we y to ticket, —that on such an occasion, aud with the privilege of such it accomplish our o bject will be to secure that these I ...jACIIIIIPrits Now they will remain quiet. and wive Ito disturbance to shall not be translated into the vulgar tongue ;—keep them in eeeir Roman Catholic neighbour's. (Vehement; cheering.) Latin, that is the first thing . : well: but sonic Protestants know Now, sir, among the various characters which have been lavishly Latin. (A laugh.) Ave, we are sorry for it, but we must (heck t , rt il vey_ gratuitously bestowed on me of late, one has been the citculatiep of the'Latin books as much as we. can. And L i " of i s prophet. (ie. laugh.) I lay no claim neither heve I what more intuit we do? Oh! we bishops must swear that we ever done so, to so bieh an office- I Id ' desire , riot as o to make • nlYsel do not agree to the doctrin .... es. Most people in England -. , . Will be t_ f agreeable te all my friends, and as it is never too lieve,us; many of them know, nothing about the matter, and 41 v to do well, behold, I shall make my first attenapt. and ut terthe few whodo, will, nothe believed against the solemn oath of the K prophecy. (Leughter and cheers.) In the course of the following archbishops and bishops.. We will raise the cry of `Vin bigotry, week there :hail he a puzzle in the minds of some of [save "esteemed contenitioraries, as the gentlemen of the press —no calumny • '— t his will fall in with the liberal temper of time "eve it. eo le of Fnglend and we shall trod no difficulty in raising, a .what they are to do as to a representation - of this meet- p• p• < , • . . , t og;_ .. and there shall appear a paragraph healed "Change Elo- cry of `no bigotry.' wh e et out opt oneuts will have,to stein the 'Pence and Tory Misrepresentation.". (Tremendous cheer- whole tide of popular o pnion. But those few inconvenient tog an ' ; and will read will att •• - Pi otestants who know leatill,e , empt to ratte r (I laughter.) It will run after this feshion,—(conlinued ' R "Vhtee —" T 1 re .• ,) is'Tories are at their old works,—(continued . against-anithat of 'nnP I • , nee , y . But see, they wilt have the whole for a s;tiiile-1 hope tint al inoghter e—of bieotr • end lie e et ," • ) t calumny against their Roman Catho- tide of public opinion against them be able to raise cry of ' - 1 ,... • low-subjects. (Laughter.) They had , another exhibi- ways. (Cheers.) They will not _ , that and we will be able to rets.e a erY, ot no bigotry.' If t otten last 'ruesclay, in the Ampitheatre,--(cheers anti laugh- POPerY , ' ntr.)—at which a person who calls himself the Rev. Mortimer the nation believe them, we shall lie beaten; if the nation be- P Btiiiiv,„,_(continued lo "g hter, ) —adde d to his already 'lone I sieve us for a while, we shall gain such power that we trill pre atilsit of false charges against the Catholic Church,—(cheers O l e ! sent's. let them all see Dens —we will not be afraid of them." ~ d. floe content with the vague expressions of polemical situ - ! This is precisely the position of the conflict at the present mos ;r a tion. he assailetl, with the most disgusting p e „„„tit i„; ment. Th e.t iatjurl has believed them — it h'is believed prat ,f,,tt tneeleest of all meek prelates, the most Rev. Dr. Murray." callY; .It 'has acted upon its chariteble, belief, and if it should Krill soon have end the van pit , beers and laughter.) The prophecy is not v e t qu i t , fi n i s h_ persevere as it is now ii)jug, then , 1 •" - --(Isissighter.)—I still suPP""a ntYself reading' from •i our tage gwound they airs at. , (Cheers.) If the nation continues ', • , teetned," who tines on to sav, "This gentleman was felloWed to call us . bigots—if. it continues to hrand. the Iles. Robert O'Sullivan as caltunnititors, ii,•, our own Ilutto,"—(convulsions of laughter. in which the M`Ghee and the Rev. Mortimer ' 'v. gentlemen heartily joined,)—" who in a strain of Miele and.to receive with all se-moll:Dv. like Mr. J 11 - no,, cf Hereford, l ',.',` , 'lP Tidieule. a rt t t e ntioP (1 our arrountor the meetiog : ; , 1 , ( 1 . i .„„ - —( a 1 in ,h )--the si . u t ri p,,i i , -, a rim most Rev• Dr• Murray, , 110 him he did it iti. so much better i allguag , 0,, tie ....- 1 1a ' ' ' ' ' 1 . lb fell aeain wider papal tan 1 ism. beyond a donitt. 1'..13,g1;in , •‘ i • ' -,„ ,',„` ,' i•,,,,,,,,. ' • '' , Tl4l teal.e-ae don't Iseow whaa tn say about the mutter." tvr it I • (r ~ ~- . r•- erever meter., ) . esno it she. . ii). ~ xc.ania iore, 0 .... . 113,„, i • . I t .i. Well sn• •' •• ringing in her ears. (Loud iin.c ,• et tease' hies endlaiime t, .) ~. so um. li fer p re _ fall site will -fall with warning . . I , pilt v• 1 love a great edvant age ill this; because an vof there cheers.) Protest Associations are 1 isitin up and warteing 1-,‘,,, hinsen.whtm are SO inclined, can 'mike me a trite prophet in her to rare the rieht tone Of eeneine chtistianity in the . lanil ' ur three days, (poiuting to the rePorteis.) (A 'lan" . p h ) 13ut, again, • lrepel '•hes of that abominable jesuitical and to the epprom system. whieh, Thstice to Ireland on its lips, and universal Atli V nit its ti ttintr , its heart hatred to England and ex lerA.lination of heretics. (Long continued cheering.) But, there is another ctiarg,e which has been advanced to-day avalus the chnvi,:h of Home, and to which I must call your attention —not fir !the purpose of reiterating the statements so ably made, but break,rather new ground in this. matter, the charge I allude to is the opposition of the church of Rome, to the free . iirmilation and indiscrimMate reading of the. Word of God. I shall du this, not by' , -ecurring to proofs, but by calling your wtention to a dicument wherein the , notorious fact is. taken tor granted, by which our minds will Ip.t diteoed to anoth€l subject of deep and lively interest, The d ocumen t I now advert to I hold in my hand. It is a letter from Lord Stanley, then Mr. Stanley, to the Duke of Leinster, announc ing the determination of government to establish a new board of education in Ireland. Lord Stanley writes thus concerning the Kildare-place Society, then carrying-ou Scriptural educe- .• New Vstament, and after the boys had-read it and clivred their hooks, I begati to ask the questimis printed at ttie end of it; and is due eourse, se ye 1. • Hew del the angel addreSs her ?' (meaning the besssett virgin.) `Hail! Marv, full of grace.' answers Tim Flan:team (Loud laughter.) •As one peculiarly h,eseed it Geo,' says Jack Smith, the water-guard's sue's? (cou tissues! deuebtes,) • isetn't I right, and nay 1 go op ?" Yoe are both rieht,''seys I. (Laughter.) • But whieh is to go up ?' says they. (Great leeeteer.) 'Jack Smith is more exact,' says 1, and accordingly he took F;anaesen'e. piece. Well, the seheel was nut leoleseue ail hour, whew Mrs. Flaneean, she's a came , lite, came to ask tne ill had put down her grandson for saying 'The aegelical ealutatiou.' s says I, I adhered to the St i ist letter of the ecrietere lessens." Sir,' says she, I'll conieitin of you to tee bishop ter punishing my boy for confess ing the true faith. And you are a reneesele anti an :upstate from Your religion for doing what you ease done "rhe next week 1 was teaching with emelt fear over me, on account of Flanagau, (great latiehter,) when in came the minister,. ;sea with hen came en evangelical gentleman that opposed the school, wizens he thought to win over by showing him how well the children were taught to read the scriptures. As ill luck would have it, I was hearing the boys the lesson in which you have merked the word • repent' to be explained.' So taking your note at page 14 to help me, I said. says I, ' repent' means, do penance, and that means a great deal (loud laughter) ; for example, it means peas ;et the shoes, (continued laughter,) and a pilgrimage to Lough Dearg, (laughter,) anti saying seven hundred Aces and it hundred Pater Noters, fasting. I saw the minister wriggling as 1 went on explaining ' repent;' and the evangelical getitietuan grinned. And when school was over, the minister in it high rage set upon use, and rated at me for teaching Po t tery, as he called it, in school-hours. (Loud laughter.) 'Sir,' says,l, 'the board put down the word to be explainel,' and I believe in no other meaning.' I won't leave my children here,' says he, 'to be corrupted by you, and I'll report you to the board for giving peculiar instruction before the molter - hour for it is come." Sir,' says 1, it is not peen liar instructiou; lam bound to give an explanation, for the hoard has marked it for trie to explain, and I will do my duty.' May it please your honourable board, I have found it a hard and vexations thing to do that same. After Mrs. Flanag an blew me up, (great laughter,) I made a rule that in reading - the lessons the ceildren should not take each others' places when they missed.. Bet it was not long till, as I was hearing them read the ITh lesson, I asked them, as you directed me. How must we he justified?' By my good works,' says Jem Flynn. By faith,' says Bob Jones; 'reen't I right?' By faith and says Darby Morris; 'ainn't I right ?" By faith with out works; uncut I right ?' says Miles Johnson. '0! you're all right,' says I, 'more or less (convulsions of laughter); but 110 taking o f plices, as I commanded you already.' The boys looked at each other, as if they would determine, by a fight out of wheel, which Was right, since I would not decide it for them. • . And I thought to thyself, anyhow, it is mighty little knowledge they'll get out of the lessons; if I mustn't help them and put them right. However, - es that was one of the days set apart fee separate religious instruction, when the school was dismissed the protestants went hothe by themselves, and the catholice re mained to say their cattylisnis, which prevented a fight on that day ; end I took the opportunity of telling them' that`justified- tion means sanctification,' and so we are justified by our good works. But five days after, when they came to the 2lth lesson, I-asked them, What does the word paradise' omen?" Lito tes,' says Phil Scratch. (Great laughter.) • Heaven,' says Torn Whack. (Immense laughter.) - What . was Ito do now ? The boys looked angry, - and were waiting for me to decide who was right, when - in came Father Finnerty, and, without more ado, Phil appealed to him. Yon are right,' said his rever ence. Tom's eyes fleshed fire, and lie muttered something be tween his teeth, that came out afterwards when the school was breaking. up. (Great laughter.) For he set upon Phil as he went out of the .door, and said, ' You unmannerly cut, do you mean that.the Saviour went to purgatory ?' ' I do,' says hee There is no such place in thoßible,' says - Tom. Thelei is,' says Phil. ' Your lie,' says the angry fellow, 'paradise is hea ven.' It is limbo,' says Phil, an7l gave him a 'lunch in the ribs. (Laughter.) It is heaven,' says Tone and bit him a *low its the eye. (Uncontrollable laughter, that lasted some terse.) A. ring was now formed by four or five protestants and about litty catholics, and the shouts were loud on both sides, one bawling for limbo, and the other for heaven. (Great laugh ter.) And I saw the evangelical gentleman riding by, anti he shook his head, as much as to say our system of united instruc tion was making flue harmony in the country. 11e complained of it, however, to the minister, and so he Caine up along with him next day, and taxed me with setting the boys fighting. Sir,' says only asked the question which the board bidane ask; and I. gave rim explanation of my own. You were angry with me thieother day for explaining a word; and now you are angry because I can't . keep the boys from - controversy, and all the (emit-over:4y was brought in by the beard." But look at the lesson of leve r and charity Oat- hanging on the wall,' says he; a why did you not enforce it ?" Is it with a rattan ?' says I, ',am I to dots them to make them love one another? and es to the• lesson of charity that is hung up, it's a different lesson they hear at. home; and one can't expect all at once that they will give up the old plan, and he persuaded that it is not right to punish aheretic for reviling the true faith.' (Hear, hear.) ' I will not have these scripture lessons read any more its the school,' say s he, they only drag the children into controversy, by the notes and questions they contain.' 'The board earnestly recommend the use of them, sir,' says 1. 'And if you do not use the lessons,' says the evangelical gentleman, you won't have any scriptures read in the school.' 1 will take away my children,' says the minister, 'and send them to the Bible school in the next parish.' This is.the state of the case. And i hum bly pray pier honourable board to tell the how I tins to explain justification,' and Abraham's bosom,' without giving par ticular religious instruction, and without teaching theta what believe myself to be their true meaning. And , In duty bound, both night and day, Thady i3rady will ever pray." (The conclusion was followed by loud laughter asset .ftemiause.) Now I beg von not to go away with the notion that I intend to pass this ttif a genuine document. .1 do no such thing. It was simply to make-you laugh at the education board, as I can assure you I laughed heartily myself. But what is the use of all this in reference to the Liverpool Protestant Association Sir, it has everything to do with it. This system of education is an undermines of Protestantism. - It was imputed into Li verpool as.a feeler—and it has .been felt. (Mech applause.) Was it imported into Liverpool ? The resolutions passed in the Courted of the Corporation of Liverpool last July were, 1. "That the schools shall opou at nine o'clock each morning, and continence by the children singing a hymn from the selec tions of thescommessi;eiteratetuationalseducation in. Ireland, and by the masters reading a portion of the scriptures from the same select ions." 2. •• That one hour of each day be devoted to the religious instruction of those children whose parents do not object; and eat euch hour be in .the afternoon, after the school' has closed. That the school shall he considered as closed at three o'clock in the winter, - and at four o'clock in summer. That instruction be given tun Thursday afternoon as on other days, and that Satur day afternoon be considered a holyday." 3. " That the clergy of the different denominations be solicited to attend for these purposes, and that every practicable accout modetion be afforded them." 6. "That. the books of time commissioners of education in lre teed he adopted; and that they have afair trial previous to the introduction of any other." Yon recollect that the Irish system was constructed in order to get rid of the vital defect in the Kildare-place system, which was the reading of the Serptures in school hours. The Irish system. therefore excluded the reading of the .Scriptures, otherwise the defect was not gut rid of. (Loud cheering.) Did the new Irish system exclude the reading of the Scriptures by the children ? Assuredly it did. Did the Liverpool Town Council adopt the Irish system ? Assuredly it did. Did the Liverpool Town Council exclude the Bible from the schools ? Assuredly it. did.—(Cries of ". Yes, yes.") But I have here three gentlemen who say " No." 1 read from on: of our "esteemed" contemporaries : " The BOle in the Corporation Molls.—a public meettny was held yesterday evening at the Vine Tavern, Pitt-street, at which Mr. Rath!,one, Hr. II Vindey, :11r. Black4urn, and several others of the corporation _school comotittee attended, /or the purpose of answering at ty'questions relatif e to the tory slander which asserts that the Bible is eacluded frmn these schools. Mr. Rathbone said, merely , wertl. selections front time Bible made, but the whole Bible was used- , Mr. Blackietru said, the Moles was daily read in those schouls.• That it-was not, was but au assertion, and need be only met by•a direct negati vo. Mr. Walmeley, who was 'oldie called foresaid that the Bible, unmutilated, was part of the daily routine of the schools." Now see the premisee and. see the iconclusion. The premises, the Bible is excluded front the Irish -system; the Irish system is adopted into Liverpool—erew, the •Biiile is not excluded - from the Liverpool scheols.--(Loud cheers.) Two Affirmative pre mises bringing , in a negative conclusion —( Loud cheers.) Oh I tegic unanswerable! Assuredly the Pythagoreans were in the right. ••Assuredly . the doctrine of the transmigration of souls was the true one after till, and.t he logical spirit of Aristotle has won its inspiring way into the Liverpool 'I own-hell. (Ap plause.) Before I leave this part of the subject, sir, 1 wish to sac e few .w,mix.concernin4 the' sneers en flippantly and freely poured forth' against us, the clergy •of Liverpool, since the -meeting I have alluded to, on aceount ofeeir munifeeted una nimity in this cansee and our maniteeted difference of (minim) on another subject which has lately agitated the town. When the oratorio was the: subject, genie approved of it, and others disapproved of it, and said so; and of the latter class I was °ins e am! said sot Some s=aid nothing about it; and what does thee iprove?. Why it proves thtit we are freemen, and have liberty to speak, according to our consciences, mill that we prefees;---it .proves that we are not Romish slaves, who dare not speak but permisssone superiorum. We do differ, and will continue to differ, oil all subjects not of vital importance. But, sir, when the Bible was touched. we then stood its one man, with one hand and heart, and with but one circulation of life, manifestineg but tune pulse—(loud' cheering). And what does this proves It proves that our union was the simultaneous and spoeteneoue movement. of tree minis.—a union worth having. It proves what Protestantism is. Protestantistit is unity ma fundamentals, without uniformity in circumstantials.—(Cries of " Bravo," and great cheering.) Tins is our answer to the carping cavillers who think to divide us by sneering at our difference of opinion. —(Cheers.) •We do divide and will divide on every matter whore we honestly differ in opinion ; but touch the Bible, and we will not divide.- (Loud cries of " Bravo.") 'Now, sir, if I do not intrude too much upon your time and upon the tithe of this aseernbly-4nte no )—I have one charge more to advance against the Church of Rome.—( Loud cries of " Go on.") We ch-mrge the Church of Route with:determined oppo sition, not only against scriptural reading, but to the very vitals of scripture truth. This seems at first to be a vague but I shall net treat it vaguely. I turn now its this Beek—it is the eighth volume of Dens—to the famous hull Unigenitus, the authority of which is proved by the statements l'haee already made. ft is put forth by the Pope ; it is not dissented from hy• the Bishops. and it consequently becomes the rule of the Church, and is binding on all Catholics. In this WI, which is levelled against is certain book, containing an PxPosii inn of the Ittintanity of our Saviour, there is an enumera tion of 101 propositions, quoted by Qtiesnell and condensed; and - coneetning these propositions there is this declaration at the end :_.e" MI and every- the pre-inserted propositions we condemn and reprobate"—Narnerenns et reprobamus)—as false, ecandalou s . 'impious, hateful to piens ears, frequently con demned--(plaries datanata, &c.) Anti we command all the faithful of all sexes not to presume to think, to tea ch, or t preach of th e a b ove propneitions otherwise than as contain :d in this our ennstitution." What are these prop osit ions so be.. ,. t h v' l it condemned ? One of them is this—autl h a ppily it est o n e " Lectio sarrre script uric est pro ore of the holy scriptures is for all." " o t rvonus et rnhrobarnns, says the Church of Rome. "We condemn sayine as captions, false, profane, and which ee , ra, scriparer t demned offensive to pima: ears•" l e l . e - et e ee p ro position est pro omnibus is offensive to Inoue ears of s' is—' the obscenity of the secred God is sm reasonof the same." for any men to diepenee - with the reading . 'says the Church of " We condemn and reprobate this seeing , ' You saran "the . read- Rome. This is a saying that you 10 " . I(u e Churchl bseurit , y )r in'z of th" holy scriptures is Sir all." is no reason why we shoelil ot read t h e n:. 'I Unite set's--" Dainnames et reprobemusr, and this, mark, is biedi ter „ e catholic. Another • o t hese statements is, " it th e stew , n e Jesus Christ. is the efficacious principle of eve re eseied eseen ever y act—is ne cessar y for every good w o rk -- end witheut it. no w'or'k can h e good that ie done." '['his is one of tflorions statements o ft he grace of God, c o n ce rning which every christian sass. " I loves in that truth;" and concerning which thus Church .of Rome says, " Dertinames et tion :-- " While they (the government) do full justice to the liberal views with which that society was originally iustituted, they can not but he sensible that one of its leading principles was calcu lated to defeat its avowed objects, as experieace haseubse quently proved that it has. The determination to enforce in all their schools the reading of the Holy Scriptures,. without note or comment, was' undoubtedly taken with the. purest motives, with the wishl at once to connect religious with moral aud lite rary emlneation, and, at the same dus, not to run the risk of wounding the peculiar feelings of ant , sect by cateehetical in struction, or comments which might tend to subjects of polemi cal controversy: - But it seems to have been overlooked that the principles of tee Reman 'Catholic Church . (to which, in any system intender! for - general diffusion throughout Ireland, the hulk of the pepils must necessarily belong) w ere totall y a t vari ance with t his principle; and that the indiscriminate reading of the Holy Scriptere, without note or comment by children, must be peculiar v obrioxieus to a church which denies, event() adults, the redo, of unaided private interpretation of the sacred voluine with respect yi the articles of religions belief. Shortly after its institution, although the society prospered and extend ed its o p er atiOn4; (and the right hon. Secretary might have aided, " embraced within its bosom Roman Catholic and Pro testant chililven by thoufsitels,") under the fostering care of the legislature, llC's vital defdot beilan to be ' noticed, and the Roman Catholic clergy began to exert themselves w ith energy and suc cess against a systein to which they were on principle opposed, and which they feared mieht lead in its results to proselVtism, oven althmigh no such object were contemplated by its Promo ters. When this opposition arose, founded on such grounds, it scam became Manifest that the system could not become one of. national education." In the reading of this document; I want you, sir, atiil this large and intelligent assembly to , notice that the vital defect of the system in Kildare-street was the reading Of the scriptureS:—that the new system was devised in order to remedy timtS vital defect, and, consequently, if the reading of the scriptures be apart of the new 'system, such vital defect is not remedied. But if the vital defect be remedied, the reading of the scriptures is not a pin of the new.'system... This is very - simple—se simple, that you will perhaps wonder why I should state it. The present Irish system was established for the ex press' purpose of remedyiug what was declared to be a defect in the old system, and what he described to be the indiscriminate reading of the holy scriptures by the children in the schoels.. I want you to bear this in your minds, that the present Irish sys tem was to do away with the reading of the scripture front the schools: But were not extracts made from the. scripture, Which might give the %surd of God, so selected, as not to wound the peculiar religious sentiments of any party ? 'On the subject of selections my Lord Stanley wrote t bus :—" The commissioners of education in 1824-5, sensible of the defects of the system, and of the grolmes as well as the strength of the objection taken, recommended the appointment of two teachers in every school, one Protestant and the other Romeo Catholic, to super intend separately, the religious education of the children; and they hoped to have been able to agree upon a selection from the scriptures which might, have been generally acquiesced in by both persuasioes. But it was soon found that these schemes were itnpracticahle." It was indeed impracticable to make a selection that would satisfy both parties. The history how and why it was found impracticable is one of deep and vital interest. The present Primate of Ireland, and the late Archbishop of Dublin, were parties to the 1-ito attempt presented by the government in 1811 and 1825, but in their hands no selection could he made to which the Roman Catholic archbishop would agues, and in his hands no selection could be made to which they would a gree. There is one remarkable instance which will give an idea ofthe manner in which these attempts failed. I hope I shall be en abled to make it plain to this meeting; t hough I must confess it will require, on their part, a renewal of diligent and patient .attention. (Cheers.) la the passages of scripture where the institution of the Lord's supper is given by Christ, and repeat ed by St. Paul, it was in four passeoes in scripture, three in the Evangelists and one in the Epistles—the language is in the pre sent tense. It is to this effect in all, and in these words in one :—" This is my body which is given f or y ou: this do in re membrance of me. This cup is my blood of the New Testa ment, which is shed for you." All is in the present time. Now in the Romish version of the New 'Testament, an alteration is made in the latter part of the sentence. The former part stands ae ears ;,—" '['his is my body which is given :for you. this do in remembrance of Me." It stands thus :—" This chalice is my blood of the New 'Testament, which shall he shed for you." The future tense is adopted. On this difference between the re sent and the future a large body of Popish doctrine is foun ded: on the present tense they build the doctrine of tin unbloo d hi s y sacrifice. They tell ns ' that Christ' then and there„ ave therefore there was no bloody sacrifice. But body : for he says , " it is g iven ;" but tha t then and there no l s loiel was stied; in the second clause there was a referehce to the sacrifice on the cross ; end. therefore it was put in thefuture tense, and not in the present, and therefore it shall he done-" it shall be shed fur you." Now there is no reason either in the original lan guege, as We have it in our version, or in any of the INIt S. which can be fottud in any. age, to justify this change of tenses.. ([Tear, hear.) At the present as regard's the body, at the future as regards the blood. .The Protestant bishops and archbishops .peremptorily refused to allow the change of tense in the insti tution of the Lord's, supper, in the proposed selections of 1824 - and 1825. The Roman Catholic archbishop insisted on the change : and it was limns! impracticable to come to an agree ment, and make a suitable selection. (Cheers.) We turn now to the selection made tinder happier auspices for the Church of Rome, in ltS'il and 1832, and we find the most agreeable con nivance with the Roman Catholic archbishop,' and the passage thus translated to be put into the hands of both Protestant and ROman Catholic children: " This is my hefty which is giverrfor . you : this cop is the Now Testament in my blond, which is about to be shed for you." ( Hear and cheers.) Whielt is about to he shed 1 Anil. the Protestant archbishop; agreed to alter the ! tense—retaining thy' tense as the ground ~ the unhloody sacri fice. What, then ? The future tense is retainer) with reference le the Catholics.' The Homan Catholic had caught his prey. Now, now, we can make a selection. But in 1824 and in 1825 Lord Stanley said (het selection was impracticable, (Loud cheering.) 1 hope d s you have all onerstood that. (Cheering. j In speaking of this selection , t h er e is another p assa g e to which I wish to call your attention- On a former occasion, you may remember, I called your attention to the Ist chapter of Si Luke, as compared with the statement professed at the com mencement. that the whole of St. Luke was contained in the number.. We saw, by a very convenient juxta position, th at the prom ise was violated in the Ist chapter, and ten verses were omitted. The verses omitted contain the address of the angel Gabriel, when sent to the Virgin Mary. It is 'written in all the MSS.—there is uo resource fur equivocation—" Hail, thou that art highly favoured!" • When they come to transcribe this jut e the selections, a difficulty flashed ou their minds : the P se .. testa's( members of the board . would naturally 'follow the plain meaning of the original words, as given in the authorised ver sion;-" Hail, thou that art hi g hl y favoured !" But if this had been done, one of the sweetest anthems of superstitious melody that floats on the ears of Roman Catholic worshippers in their dads oblations, would have been erased. from the text. Oh ! what would have become of "Hail, Mary ! full of grace ?" (Cheers and laughter.) The Boutin Catholic members of the board could by no means do away with " Hail, Mary 1" and the Protestant members could by no means admit it. What is to be thh said. This mimic then ? Put a pair o f brackets, and give a digest, an d avoid an actual transcribing of what wi t s done. The paraphrase was given. e angel h It has b at een plead e d b y au honourable councillor in our town, as—(an unanimous burst of cheering)—it is very inc onvenient to applaud in the Middle of a sentence : You have p ut me out.—(Cheers.) —It has b een pleaded as a jus'tificatiun of the omis sion of the verses—that it was more expedieut to adopt that alternative. But let us Fee how it iv irks. There is at the end of every passage an in struction to the schoolmaster t o ask certain questions. 'There i e s ea a d s . et 'l n o r t g im u e e t ' l l i i a ' r u g ' s i ti g i i t v ft e e i r l 't h a i l s ' d c h i l l' s! treerretl7toti'e passage j us t question occurs, f or the master to Put to the childre n: " Flow did the angel address her ?" An intelligent child will look heels toeee. There is no address of the angel to her — it is a p ara p hrasee—( Hear.) Now, how did the angel address her? It i s a hard q uestion. The next questimin is,—" What more did he sa y to her?'' On refer ring to the text, let it be remembered that the maste rs in these schools rimy be, this also is a paraphr ase.—( Ifear.) Now, sir, and in most cases are, Roman Catholics. 'rhe child came; to a non-plus on these questions; for there is no answer in the text. What will.the master say, when applied to for an an to thgh e question ?—" Hail, ter.) That is what he will say • aud So Protestant children Will Mary ! full oft r ace ?"—( Cheers and lau be told about it. The bible does cot so render it; but it i s i n the traditions of the Roman Catholic church. In addition to these peroexities o the children in the schools, thereare many o thers. I i have a n t er doeument to retd•freis, and .you shall have full permission to laugh as you please. I . ffeely telfis you, that I read it partly for the perptise of making you ratio,' at the beard. I attempted to sheer that, on a late occasioo, by. Ope e .. Mg four ministers of differentspersuasions in nits,' eerners':ilf the • room, and plaeing'emne one in the middle whom I ` 1 "1 not name—(cheers and laughter). And yeti laughed and did well — 7 -fur it is a u t most absurd system. I will now give the document , ' ;--it comes in the shape of 'a memorial from a teacher to the Commissioners of Education : ' •// . " llie Happy Elects of Reading the Nem Scripture Lessens z the National Srhools . of Ireland. —The'nientorial of Thady Bratty hnmblyshewelle , that I am , as you know, Thady Brady, who Was appointed master of the, national school of liilltnegrannY, county Clare, having been recommended by the R ev. Eusta n d thitie Finnerty, P. P.—(Deafening; peals of l a ughter.) A as the Protestant Minister, Mr. Pleaseall, joined in the appli cation for building the - school. an d induced a tow of the p ro testant children, whose parents live =Prig us, to come to it—l take equal pains to instruct them. It is on the'subject of the Soriptume lessons that I now make hold to address Y rn " h on ourable beard; for being, as you truly. say, • not well quali fled as a "teacher of religi on, " r am fairly at a nonplus with these lessons, and I would be infinitel y beholding to y for I ou if, Isv r e turn of post, you will let me kn ow who is Boothroyd, asked the minister, and he told ma that he was a Country goo tleman, a sort ore Quaker—(loud.laughter)•-that died in E hanve g land last year ; and , as I th ou g ht. that it was ver y queer to s him set up to teach the meaning of. the Bible, that never was baptised, I asked the priest , and be told me he was an Egyptian monk;—(continued laughter)—eo I refer it to' your honours for informetion. , And ,weuld also be thankful for a clear notion of who Bishop Horsley was, and Kennicott, and Griesbach, as we never heard of them before in these . remote parts (1e - tighter): and smne say they were Protestants,. and others. say . they were old saints, only not called so,•like Origen, of whom we are not sure whether he was a real saint•or a heretic, though you men tion his opinieu about the •Patei:Noster.• And-please ti toll me also hew many Manuscripts there are , . and who wrote them, and all about. them. ..(Lause ghter.) As You set me to teach the things, sore vett :tre.bminuml to instruct me, for. as you say, not ' qualified. (Continued laughter.) But if the t ruth was known, no snore is the priest or the minister , (a laugh); f or 1. a s ked them both how many manuscripts .there .were in all. and they looked cross an , ! (Inv . said ' What's tha t to you?' (lo ud laughter)—and the other -said, ' Mind your own business:' (roars of la u ghter)—so, ' Boys,' says I,• ' a large prop ortion of maneseripts reads, se and i.m.' . I am " Your , T 1 eirtm ialist also prays that your hono u r s will tel him a safe meaning to give of ' jOstification,' which you bid me ' explain,' (I should tell vett that at the end of every c hapter in this. there is a (silliest) to be . ekplained by the master) , bur which is eettl ee me into stick Kralies and scoldings on all si d es. I di , not ask fn, tiw t Fee meaning,' for I know that, but a mean infe that Vogt ;4 i,...,. an , , pecu li 3 r reNginns instruction.' fir thet's waat they planted me for shiing in the school-hours, when I rave lilyIt" nun 4" , pl , maik.r,) of the word. 'FHA v,,u ma y understand • Y c '!r• ,- 1 ",ili I-Y•it'lmefole you in dotal), and relate mY griev - In ances to otsbeihig these lessons. ".1 was teaching one des last inept!), the first lesson in the T--_~..- , --~..~. , .. , g ~~ SWEARING IN TILE MAYOR. The TowN-cttax, ;ate' readina the standing orders of the council, proceeded to administer the declatation to the Mayor on accepting . office required by law, whitll Was attested by Mr; Alderman Brown, as senior alderman, aryl by Mr. Currie ass late Meli r. The standing orders were then recOnfirtnecL DOCK CONINIITTICE. The proceedinaS of the Dock Committee of the Sib §eptetti-: her. 18.33, uere then read. The report stated, that Alderman IMnn had been elected Deputy Chairman, anti also recommend. eel the appointment ttf a Solicitoftu the Dock Trustee, to taltri place at their next meeting. Mr. Alderman LitATuotit said, not hawing been present wheel the hononi wa4 conferred Upon him, two days ago, of appoint ing him Chairman of the Dock Committee, he beuged to re; turn them his thanks fbr the tmour, increased as it vas by the auspices under nhich the Cnnnnittee was now assembled. It would be his endeavour to promote the interest of the Dock et.: tate, and of the town at large. (Cheers.) The report was then approved. Tut?: APvntsTstENT . ol7 INSPECTOR OF COACHES. The Tows. CLERK read a letter signed by the lice Mayor; appointing John Martindale to be inspector of coaches. Mr. bvttnta explained that, the appointment was made itt conformity with the provisions of a by-law which vested that appointment i❑ the Mayor for the time being, and he had ap: pointed the person whose name had first been introduced jute the by-law, for that office. orrfcEit§: The Tows CLARK then read over the names of the eorriorat. officers requiring eiieually tai be eletted, which were submitted to the approval of the Council, and thetr appoiutments con.: firmed. CORPORATII ClitSl% The TOWN CLEntt said it was customary to pass a resolution to the effect that, the keys of the corporation chest be giveri into thn hands of the Mayor. the Treasurer, and the Tuwii;: clerk, for the year ensuing. Confirthed; WATCH COliftilITTF.R. The Town CLERK then read a notice of a motion by Mir Alderman Robinson, for the appointment of a Watch Commit.: tee. Mr. Alderman RonfereoN then tose, its pursuance of his no% lice, to move the aline:lament of this CoMmitee. It was one of the most important Committees they had to appoint, inasmuch as on the wise and judicious administration of the police under its ineneg,ement, the peace and seen! it v of 'Ito; town depended: He held in WS hand a list o f ge •tlemen, 'thought advisable to be elected on this Committee, which Ir t should read over, and after; wards take the sense of the Cr - atilt:li trivet if. Before, however; he read tide list, they would alleW hiM to s say a few words ott the subject of the late Watch . Committee of the town,—that much calumniated body. (Hear ) Their exertions had, in the first place, been directed to the forming of a complete pr.)-; lice. In this object they had been eminently successtul ; and,. he might..safely assert. that coriAtler.O.le diminution of crime had been the consequence. He would ask anv unprejudiced person to compare the state of the streets in this down with what they were in any former year. Livia is he did in Everton. his attention had been directed to the line of streets leading to that part of the town. Formerly,. in Dale-street, drunken fights,—not only with men, but, he was sorry to Say, with wo men also, wera.of daily, almost hourly occurrence. If anp one wished to put a stop to them, the only. ;femme of getting tho policemen to interfere, was, to go to the Town-hall, then you might, or might not probably meet with a policeman. They never saw a policeman in the streets, excepting when, once a year, they were seen, with great regularity, parading previously to the licensing sessions up and down the town, levying what was in Scotland termed "black mail" upon the unfortunate pub licans. When the Committee were first appoiseited; an idea was entertained that it should consist of sixteen Members, one for each of the wards. In the course of the discustizn on the ap pointment, the council thought fit. to altc r that regelation, and increased the number to ie enty l'our. Several gentlemen en the late committee were of opinion that the tmteent tee was too large; and others were of a contrary opinion—among these he was one; for ie practice it had not been found too large, for the duties of the committee were extieedinely heavy. In the first place a sub ceremittee was formed ler the clothing department. In the second place, a sub-committee for the - cleansing and scavenging department. And, thirdly, a still more numerous sub-committee for the lighting department. Independently of that, there were eight daily committees—one of which coin mittees sat every day in the week to superintend the police force, and e a ch gentleman was on permanent duty one week in every eight weeks. When they considered that every gentleman in that committee had his private affairs to attend to, one w eek in eight was as touch as he could conveniently afford The imme diate dote of this &lily committee wee, to superintend . the %fork hilt., of the police terco They sat every clay till three o'cl?lek.— inspecte:l the reports handed in by the t nspecrors and gui'e!in" tendents, embodying charges of irregularity, negtectiug theen irpolice made by the beat by the police, &c., and attend ed with Brest .:ace anti inhabit ants of the town. For it was nut t o be expected but that occa sionally complaints would arise. They all knew very well that and many of the police he knew clad , i lto g et her unwat rentable. 'That part of the dui v aectipie d a great deal of time, and had to he attended to with mre!, ca lioness; for it fre q uentl y ha pp e ned that evidence t a oa e l d 'u t s v e ith l h ; ' t i n t in, l i t er h t o ic ri t t ic y e ; ct na ture was brougot forward. tee It had be en asserted tiititteitilif oduoihr h , 3tli ,i i i : t i , e u v it t justilicition of l . propose. Ile when he had mento med this, ,whichittee ae it a noticeec f: 1 n then Litt would s that the new police. besides heinte appointed for the good of the e gitie . disgrace As to a u t i r , y , : i o ar v of th t,i i n habitants of tire town, Vlore appointed w ith an u l ter i or o bj ec t —an i r t rbj , c , c a, t s w in hic t h ae h t, e a si m i t o l, t . i t l e n d a the late watch committee he took upon - himself to deny that as sertion 11109 t. distinctly. When, however, he should read the li s t of names. and a grea t num b er of the members of the coeti eil were embodied, m any or, whom were found to be totally ad - verse to the majority of that council, that. would be the best answer. (Cries of "hear.") If they had made the police a I.")lifieni engine, he thought it would be universally admitted, that, in proposing such a list they were using the utmost cretion—that th e y were absolutely inviting the enemy into their camp. But he was convinced that the gentlemen who joined them would find that the attention of the old committee was di rected to nothing but the word, order and peace of the town ; and he was perfectly satisfied, from what he had remarked of many of those gentlemen, that they would join cordially with the committee in that system which merely had for its irbject the security of the persons and property of the inhabitants of this great community.' Mr. Alderman Roniesoe concluded by reading over they names of the committee, whit It were afterwards proposed serifs- , tint as follows : Messrs. Charles Cropper. James traiiirerice, Male, Jordan, J. N. Wood, Freme, Mellor, Leigh, Thornhill, Holley, Hough ton, Lassen, L. ileywortle Shand, Woolwrigot, Julies, Bibby, 3' Eligeins, and Robinson. ~lr. Councillor 1 ( 3 %1, 1 7:Ye Erten begged to he allowed to with. , draw his name. (Loud cries of '' No, no.") He had never been appointed on the watch committee, und knew nothim r .c about it s duties. lie was not fit for the duties. They wee duties in which he had never Interested himself; and be there fore trusted that they would allow hits to withdraw his nahtudet, Mr. Councillor Boleros thought that any gentleman ou ) I ) mittee to which he might be named, and to leaee it ', the c•onsi entitled hint perfect right to offer reasons for declining to act duration ofthe council, as to whether those reasao,ut oken, how-- to e xemption. The hon. gentleman who bad to express ever, had not offered any which its dislike of a committee, s a p pt rh "d e e ( - Mr. Bolton) business was entidacted, was not ( ' were entitled to c onsideration. ER was afraid Mt. Rolittitron hart Mr. Coencillor JOHN R"h'o',Tcouncil by his statement of ardu frightebed the Inetuvers of the tidily duties did net occupy more thetefore, submitted that the reasons o ffered were not such as Oti ditties. The fact ilnollt)tght the duties were easily l. , arned. d he " Led that no one would decline serving d. 1 , 1 ,, rose thn id,t. loud cries of " Question." Mr. Councillor that d isoission oit particular names was,' Otis ou n that iin n ; Th e el yolt thntlght t ient, out of o det. The mitre proper course at the present mon was put to the couoci[ (Hear. hear. e suppose( there was no wish tri wouldbe. to hake each appliturint in due course l • • • gentleman to serve. if he had any valid reason to o blige any . give If he could not give that, the red him to cerninittee would exiserve. Mr. Lawrence was ate 0;d mee istrate, and °nein to be acquainted with the duties. why any s hould not set ve. Mr. C o uncillor C. Lew neNee. still pressed his objection. ti, e t that r i i n ; t t i hal thnPlua ose. who were ne t t v he e r t e in e Mr. Alderman ROBINSON said, as there would probably he hould of by Mt. Lawrence to encased,beev every year. it th y e v a d s u e t i s e s s e no f -. the varions,cmourittees t thought the arguments made use he should be retained, wereehe very reasons why Mr. Councillor J. tin Wohrn said, that his own opinion was, that the leaser' set forth by Mr. Lawrence was a valid one. lie hoped they w o od not i ns i s t u pon appointing him contrary to his - 1. f 4 r~ >: 3