The Sun. — London, England, 1817-04-26 00:00:00

~ ....,., . . - no prob nbilit , yof 4i i . ,.. : ti . ., ,, t‘in - teing able t l 'allik our et ehtre 10 the ext ent we 114d-41.4pAh, a .5(1 taller natio ns Inld become inanUfacturero p . irrytif4e btrin.rd us, to I , •uk - -to - a y , ,tettl . that! t ca .ni through onr difficOties, nisi' .he:.. none but h 7 etfalilitcg.u s to become again an, .11-4 cuut.lity, Anti gPliai &. , 4 p (Ai cis I)f)gin in 4 1 ' 760 , ivimi we ceased ,t() be an` expoTt[O,4l l Y l ur grain, one million of persons ; had , ,I,lkn into our mattufivetories : th us n e . had 11,,,Illert:""4 Nosumption and a d ecrease al t ''': tulti we had.; found. tbat. twannhictures. Itigrttraticiser to-increase- the popoldtt°." 'etn4Nl.4l ptitik:fifilii nt l : -lila. no. where could ^, l .t4ti ke o 1 -.. 1 • . . ladit 1 ,,,, t • 1 ~ ; PP! c leap as tn. t. Its. clown 1 y 4, , It'll were'red n o iiii i , (here . would 'be tlii-: 4 gitat Pm i jun ot the SOH 110 W eMployed fi tg, which, by , hying devoted t" gr'il''. '',, 1 , 41) 1e us to b ecot n e nu exporting . country.. 70", if the duty n•ere taken oil', the cou nt would be immense in preparing of foul. ved•that above st/0,00) .tons NV0111(1 be la Agriculture. The I-lOn, Getktlema9 , nuather• of articles in the preparation of tOt would be used, if duty flue' and, coil ,ltillit ille1" advanta ge would be felt by every . i elY• Something .gaol been yielded t° ' 3e i rY elsss ; b ut for hithself he would ra" t " Gentlemen oppOSite had kept t he '; 04 d . given up that iin salt , as none 1 ) () 11311 nnthe poor man. Every I'm". trlrlluse eirnit4,rs were 30/. a year,. COD.- e toite of salt, which cost hint 305., so 44 'ttitle alone took from him olte-t`ve,"" P a n of Ids own income. '[lie labours'.w" '''llle coast could not cure his own herrings, li b ' c °klht not afford to its purchase t h e (4 1 , e 1 , tt °4.1' . 1 . agree that we . neither could, I' l l ta... rdinntiish any dt... , the revenues e l °l t lt trY, in the present. st4te : but if ,48 of 1 9Ciery h a d been benefited by l',e th'it!_xcept the poor Man, the revenue 1111 . - '' , : t t t wert'ill:t2tn them, and he be left free. li cit tli t 4,. „"ttlerent ways of supplyitt,, ,, Ihe de 11,' 't th e light Hun. Gentleman, 41,Per rem. we re t t o ft:6, on each tenant, in proportion 9 '. his farm, it would not be there * farmer in .the kingdom - a heavy tr 4 „1, 1 as not a .. , a year by f hot pocket twenty . pounds o ''‘, t ' al t• He should, himself, save 9v ' t l i j "ls a - ye s r oil I:1 cattle and 500 blicep, 4)4141 he obliged to the Right H0n0ur .1d,•.... I lie't , n ' i n'to-put a licence of 2-I•.• At . a ;"e of t hli e held. It 1/. per . per cent. tti,veret.,,, e p r op erty , '‘ 1" ritute for the 08%4; ,u(I on hottSes, as a -by-- . . 1 ice 4r ~" oil n ot be felt; amt. would pro( t ' ,-.• *).000/ ' Atager would ' t .t4 }l. , • and the poor . : N I . il Year. lie bill little - daunt that the •: l ute • • ' . 44%, t loold soo n be -enabled to - filia. i! i ~10,,i, ~ ~„f„.. our sub- . Ql!tii,o ) , to should he . ii,blr.:. to eni ii - " 4 1 000 Olkne 0 .or. 300,000- Perstms'idtait.bel-.4.°•foee; I n tar lA il il . e telt. mines • - Ile thong ) . 11 $1vA' - -• .• 1 Osidcratt"t's ,aver -11 (Ine of the Most vltd• e()- . . ' i ll tlii i 11) i.,t„.411 befor e the • tits }louse. for It svas . li d) I.K lol' iiny ietnetir for t ime ge neral 4eit aiid CO3,t),Y giving emplOyitreitrt" t h s ,, ,v l i' 0 coil lii t'l4ll4,li,.ii•";•'• multitudes of 'lleaVie ' I .. 1 . t b e )1 4411 I,' 1 1 1 1.! ' l ' / i t° 1-1 wished lie 001 , 1 , 1 Ica . ' 4 kv i- ' ) Pe. f r • i2i...h t 'l , loo. tientletuatt, wi r , , ,,. e i ,, Hi ritt the .„ ~ . , 1 4 1„ N i t gil ) ,'; ee the people agatit_generally em" ' l l tt 'ht re • , I f this ditty would c•tr tpo Ahl , • It a Q 1,. 'olrytr"'Y illOtisUm.lS of thousands. The tact ;; t e !'t Pf,, t , 410 e c'Xpei.iinerit must be made. I . ( 4 t It . ' , N. ~ .... . 11 4 , r e. es i , ,, ii crisis, d d COUlti not go oil us 41 , 1) t. ,go , d - ri. .; 'llita il f ii 4( ' teas ready to give. the lion. e 144 ; I .' , ' cr ei ri f y.* 1 i t i r forward the MO 14titt ;:tyniiii:lle 1111 iti l t declare that g that . he liims . e . if il t . v 4 .. l . l . 14 e .l . iti l i, 41;41 '10 on the subject. • ,its, .But the „ lot! , ~ tit,,,. theeru of the two lion. (s . en w • t '' ' "cif mqrhe was cotlvincett tiliit the vle i t , .ol , 4l, , , iii ll ite r.) of the question was foti tt ded ,a o s n , e li x s - . 1- 1.:::,1/'111,„1"ti"Ils• llttle.ss, however, i t ,", s „i t i l l th e 1 v. out that great' ad vatitages coma FL: the 1 , 1 ' 4 ,ii : to t 'i'eal of this tax, it was the duty of 1 il t it t lihs t il l 'l'e, and be full satisfied that a yro - I vin willtt. could be adopt ed. The lion.• Yeni 14:r1,411,,t,4',1)(irie last, had given his notions .0 tri ,t'll l4l 11011, but it was impossible not to stip. T. i :: 4 if, t , o'iler! aitist not be a great difference °.1.. 1 . 1 11, 11, ' 1 thi i p art o f th e su bj ec t. It lvoill . d 1 1141,,, 4 t it the duty • . Salt were t'afteo. oft, it -, t. - .f . - .Oll iNti.,f!olv,4.t'tir m anufactures, gi%.'e :: t e l w a l l i o le se 3 , 1 ( 1 ,. ( . 1 !;,;!,Teti .1-vaterprke, send out x,, t, 1 . , 114(14plethpi toaritinte• aftairs . to make ,H liVell.. 1 , 4 111 • ' lops a• fortune,l.;.the- - ''' r e•est 11. of agricul- extend Our .. % I ' Ti lei6 a ? ish every braueb -.; ..„..-_.,,. . 1 4, 4 '4 4 . tf , ‘vere the tuagnifiCent prospects :•t i .i ! ' ri.041-F esult, in the opinions of sottte pr . r- t ~t,,:fift,,, i!l'.istboliticiti of the duty. -4 %1! tq th e ILI,Ite hut) the Subject, B . tit le TVith re ; 14.'4 at ",sheries, - lie did not believe that th e hk, t t NIt et9l( 'Yttterit in them arose in b.nY de; ; 1 Itit t . 1 the bpi ~ 1(1 :it at i i •y on Salt, FiSh.waaioltlat.thites -littiVerla ' t ' 10west price it could possibly 1 . 1 , w t `;4 h dil l y " , who caught it. But it' they - eottlt 4 tr ee, it Would not' Make the (1111. --„q" 1 i 4l t t. itt le t t ite ft "_(4 a farthing in the pound. I .t. l e ' ( e, ; It lit, ! 1 4 4 ti coutniliptian- of salt tisii•pro I ' lqi, l ' i tt.ii ret e 4 htftined, and that it was not the 044 1 t1y t i.) ,: e ;iitil it. The people who caught il:tit ~.)11"ilitaineil that they wanted a nu"k.el) 1 1 '4; 44 4 , " he got fear 2d. a pound. it Trilti /Init. ~,.elat , i . - Y tlie riee tither of fi s h or the salt v. i l k ', . It f r ,__ , . the , . : I t i lt 41t1,1,600nt tentg universally cons-tinted. The : " t ttil l it bt it (I tittl reSileCL to IllitlitlfitCcitreSe 85 1 44 4 . 4, tir ytli t i not , 4t. 1144 A fm.tiiiiin. per r ake the difference of the. 14, ;oath In•suppose that any Mitteri3leffeet. 'lthi 'r (l4l 'le' . b I yard. It was therefore ; ili A il i . ~ I On, 0 1 ; „ ~ . ' 11'1; f' t'' tilC I " l "qacturing interests of the i kt , 1 (1 w • i ' 1 e peal ot th es (Itiq , . 'flit Same . !I‘itt,'tl'i n ot 114 rekartl to its rise for ,sal sunlit-; 1t44,,) 4iiihi,„:4;t4edical preparationi Bit by cott- j , l'i ' lil ''''‘ pers • ' . wine' ' i lli t it sti „ i ous who were to n sang I, i Aii l „, " hail estimated the number of sliet..p N u - 1,(11 1 1 Igt .4 rt t 'hitt tet millions and had sop , i t4ii 'itit woiii ' .-4,1 ei t • (-. be a nostrum :against . the . 1 1ti. ,,• .11., illiproved b o o , . 7- I Ott 1 14 '141 tit ! 'it if iiiis • i tile niuttow am . ,I t tiii,- 1 ,, 'R6u el .. su .. opinion were getrftl, !tilt t i 'it,, f h t4i ii :"Y used by Nilneig, o.ot*itis- , 1 'V . i lit A t Y' •L'.rtl Sonser erne, _the • PreSi' ". is • l eite exte • ''' i ti d. t i i " t o 74,./.l'".t: Akiiictiittire, who could not ti ll ti t 41. 4 5 , • . ; nstt,e- knowledge on these 4 1 ;.0 4t e !, 1). 1 :.10 4 ; 1 ; ( 1 ; : 1 1 : 4 ! a.:tort of salt . ‘eatild be . il . h t., pit a.ll Il e tit f . I s t. et.p fora year ; so that all ' - ''': - --, l4t i -sot p 1 -.-.) Suet]) could be obtained ri.A,... 4 y bu u d d• pet' 4atl; 'as fhb ton, costs 301. .-,-,, .'" :1 , 1 . Y theta contend, that the price Or b , of silt Pre'vented it .feno't being used by the breeders of cattle? It was used as manure in different tvays,but in the proportion cif about bushel ,per acre. (llr. Curdven toisweret.l " Six bushels.") He would say, front his 0 WO, small knowledge, that if six bushel.) were 'et4loyerl, it would burn Hp every blade of grass on. the, soil. ..,(" No," from Mr,: Curtven.) lie woUld sae, then,, three bushels, and this would be only 3/: per acre, which would be cheaper now than any other kind, of Maoure.Whatever ; it Wo3..therefitre not thconice ; that prevented its use. These facts. .proved thaiit Was not necessary tit repeal the duty ; but tat all events the House might to look seriously et a proposition for cntling off a revenue of 150,000/. The ; tax had _existed for 12 years, awl those, rc,Pvo l WOO bound Icc propose some other. On the whole, he thought tint at ;111 ex.periivut to accede, to ' the .tootiott. Mr. W. SMITH deprecated the way in. which the question had: been treated , by the Gentlemen opposite. They kept repeating their desire that. the House should pause on the question, while the motion of his Hon. Friend went. 10 nothing more nor less than. to obtain such- a pause . as should procure for it full consideration, by examittiog it in the Committee point by. point. It was a re markable circutustaeee, that by every single Com mittee that had sat on the subject, the abolition of the duty bad been recommended, and it had never been objected to but when it came for dis cussion in the House. Ile believed, however, the Right Hon. Gentleman would cheerfully agree to the abolition, if he knew of any other that could be substituted. No doubt the foregoing such a duty was a serious consideration. He believed that. there' would be-no lots of revenue from the plate . proposed ; but if there were a loss , wits Omit! nothing to set as au advantage against it I' IVhen salt was 15s. a bushel, the moderate fainter could not afford to send for it in large quantities to try experiments with it on his grounds ; therefore its qualities in agriculture had not been faitly tried. It' it was not the price of salt that prevented it. being used in the fisheries, then shy permit it to be used in them duty free ? The Right Hon.Gen denten had said there were not any.... Petitions from the fisheries on the table, for the repeal of the duty..: The reason was, that the fisherice be lieved the duty would never be taken Off. unless proposed by Ministers themselves. But the Right Honottrable•Gendeman must iodate that there had been Memorials ,sent to the Treasury for years past,!praying for this repeal, anti complaining of the disadvantages or the restrictions. The Hon. Gentleman proceeded to repeat many of the i•ea soils urged by the preceding Speaker in favour of the Committee ; and concluded with giving' his hearty essent to the motion. Lord BenteloTota also gave his cordial assent to the the hope tbat it would lead to the r4oa l of a large portion of very oppressive duty, .becau‘e lie thought that, at all events, the experiment was worth tryiog. 'There was acercely any tax that could' be propoSett that he saonld conceive,thore injurious to thelower clatfaes than this. Sir C. Pc Le denied that the obsetv.atien . of the Right Hon, Gentlemati was correct; that no Peti tions had been presented) from persons copcerned in the fisheries, for the repeal of this duty. Ile had presented two that day. He hoped; when the Bill before the House was referred to the Committee, that some additional exempting olauses would be added? • Sir 1. Neweuter wished the House not to lose sight of the fact, that the motion of Ifis Hon', Friend was opt for the repeal of the tax,_ but for a Committee to recommetol the edoption 'of mea sures to the' House, which could not be consider ed till next Session. It WaS nothing to say that some inconveoience would 'result from the-aboli tion of the'tak, W:l3 bnpossible to look at the bearings of any, tax but In a Committee up stairs. lle must reprobate the course adopted by Mini sters, in bringing from their pockets, at the in stant, pocket instruments to infl uence the, debate. Why not produce the memorials,against the duty, as well as the letteri its its favour ? The fact was, that all they had said 'had been. answered. The lion. Baronet stated' an instance of the benefit of salt in agriculture, on a farm in lrelemli'where, 25 years ago, ht bad' aeett one part Of Hp estate immured hy.this article, quite green, after sheep had been feeding. on it for years, while another • part, not soonentired, they had eaten quite bare. The revel of . this duty was a subject of the great est interest to the community, anti more likely to be beneficial to them than issues of Exchequer Bills, or any little paltry attempts at tempOrary re lief. It was only by abridging taxes, MO study ing how retrenchments Could be made to render them unnecessary,lthat Ministers could fairly per form their ditty'to the public. • 'th, . e olfaNceet-ott of theExonteQuen said, that not,one mentoriel against the salt-tax hail been. presented to alte Treasury,. nor ant petitions, ex cept those which were made agtaiost,taxes of every description: Ito4a admitted that the salt-tax did bear heavily onsthe poorer classes, but then it was im possible to find any productive tax that did not. There WAS no necessity for a.Cometittee,beoaese the House was already in possession of all that' could .be ttr'ged against the tax.. It must be re collected, that a deficiencyof 80,0001. had already' been incurred, and greater loss might be feared if the trade were given op by those now concerned in it. He did not believe that salt was:ever much used ill agriculture ; and lie had mumn to know that lthe•fisheries were not Wetted by the duty. With respect to the• Teal hurdler' on the poorer classes, it might be pretty accurately estimated; when it Wits COliSidered that the cougualption of gait for 'a , man - Krid his family seldom exceeded 231 b. ti. year. Sir T. A'CIMANt) toOteittleil this tax ; found its , watiintO the poorest cottage. It prevented the preservation of me.it, and eipecially of pig meat. The fidditon of I3s. on the-Pig Which he killed at the end of the year was a sum so great - as now , to preclude the peter Ma n from profitbig by almOst the only opportunity he hail of .enjoying animal food. ttr. Buotldnate wished to know what-WaS the date of the titititoiiki (NMI Chetter. Walt dated before or litter the 13th of March ? • • - , • • . ; , * Il) ' '4 .rl ,l ° R , P ie r"nullit i of our etex ;i9‘ n teinn. able' of salt Prevei tochtreto tl • ' 1132 . 'xteot 11 . 4d4t0tte.,, a 4 so f breeders of d ii . ',l!Or tr ert, rei ' , l h "" 3 become ina trUfactinefs;' diflerent Ways, Re ° . ! P ht can. uicd us to I,';ok - io ysteitt that! bitAel ,per ac o° ' 1H14 04 YI" 14°11 14 1 1 our diffienlties, •he.. bushels.") II n lath e b ut • . co t r .enablufg.us to become again atr knowledge., tit b!„ 17 60 ' , cut ," CY and greai e . xpoiiers of)ginin.l would burn up r„tilUt o , t , y tut ivneo we censer! 'to be an [rig! No, iron *''*lttio.mh°a l ' l, one million of persons: !Hull then,: three but Otir manufactories : thus Ave. had ,per acre, whic tor y ‘ r "of ounsomption anti a d e c r e a se al other kind, of lac` .:10,!igre.1"Iti Ital.; found. that twanotnetures, .not the trice tl w ll4. '11111) t'''eat to - inere II 0) 1 Itioi) thai • velar` p 11::°) e 1et (:L 54 ,1 1494 " w i lle i r i e l Could duty; hut at 'rqe(l4' s " 4 , ll P l '. cheap as in this.oountry ; atplit ,eriotisly at a p ere feel nu fish, there wonld be dis-• of 150,0001. a- sOil now einploy . ed scar,, awl 1110 4 „ e , , devoted to grain, , bound io loop( if ‘o oevoin e an exporti ng country.• tiintight it. not Vt I tore duty tvere taken oil', the con- .motion. att l Jlld;;l:'" l 'Quid be immense i n preparing of food. ‘V".. SNII r r , tts leveci lhat above 5b0,000 ions won't! be the question he ur .; • , 11 . 1 111 ell . S toefultt,re. I *{, Sl i t t d a nunil l :e g i r • 'l:he i I-l On. Gett.t lemon opposite. 'l' he 11 i !ait wit artic l es in tote preparation of ie (louse shot „ .tide t iti„ , 111 (1 be used, if duty free, and, con- motion of his I It t k. ' l4 hie ail ra; ip stnieiv ;rage would be felt by every nor less !ban- • gomething .hat' been yielded to procure for it t Jij° i" "erY cl • tot' t he Gentlt "s but for hiniself he would ra- in the Commit . . 0/11.0",iite had kept the workable circui o blar toit ‘iii () hard h tip that On sa lt , as none mittee that bad t o lisn m 1111„,itiveaose eirni " the poor titan. Every poor, of the ditty ha( ngs were 301. a year, eon- never beet; objl i r. 1 04 11 1 ; ,, Stone s t ilt W I • I • 305., so eussion in the 1 , 4 011: 4 lie cost tint lo ok t par t f 1, , Ime took from him one-t well- Right Ge 0 04 elin noo "! 8 OWII iticome. Th e l a b otir e t • who the a bolit ion, klta e icepast could not cure his own herrings, be substituted. "e coat 11 e not afford to its purchase the duty was a ser "Itt,ll. Girpt w( " 11 ` 1 ag ree that we neither could, that . there . wou 1. to tt uti t t () .. i ' t' ' ) : l " 7 l lllB !i any di , the revenues plait proposed , 13 !' "' the present, state: but if nothing to set I tl d 1 t t 'Li " 1 14 10 • • 141 IS e „ en:ly had been benefited by re- salt was 15s. a , the i[ poor man, the revenue ought not afford to at g f "te • r"tri hen), and he be left free. But experimems " 11 ' (i‘"rt o ft , - 1 1, 4 ty, ti erent ways of supplying the de- qualities in rtgri 0 10 4 0, 4 per 4 , 13 .' e Right Hun. Gentleman, were to If it was not tl 10 00 ilx l4l,, c(if li t . • on each tenant, in proportion t 9 being used in tl itd lilis farm, it would not be a heavy be used itt then lot r 4:".441,1 CC , '". 3 1 191 a farmer in the -kingdom demon had sa 4.4 • b from the fisheri 1 11 : 4 Pocket twenty pounds a year y fee°, , • He should, himself, save two the duty, The bitir 0 , 4 4 16 11 ;';' Frye ar on 14 cattle and 500 sheep, licved the, dt „sr ~3 " tn q tl i t t I be obliged to the Itigh Pkt.. t Honour- proposed ha r lot The CIIINC,ELton of the ttcnr.cioni; ti§" 'untrerstOod, said the date was the 6th of April. , is * • ;‘lr. CALCRAFT replied— He the Right Hon. GentVunip opposjte had fortnerlY, L at the Board of Trade, tecognized the evils.arisingi out of the Salt Tax ; bltt a memorial in its favani, i gnef l by half a dozen•monopoliiers of great in fluence, had ifflAy !note weight with hitti than re gtt'rd for his own consistency; and he feared it, would also have greater weight with the majority 'of that House, than "the Recort of their Committee on the subjee r t,,or.thao a id t h e argil. Ments beeti suably urged against the tax in the preient debate. if the influence of the monopolizers he hail referred‘to conld thus in f h e. Lo s deeille,against the Report made by ; a Connt,itiee of their own hotly, he knew not where the penile were to look for - refire.;s:•• The Right • Iltninuriible Gentleman -(1 r . R o se) had:admitted the tax Would be one: that it ‘v p o ld be• well to,. get rid cif, it a satisfae-' ; tory conunntation could be Made; yet he had urger) in favour of still keeping it op, 'He had s a id t h a t it was foe hint (Mr. Calcrstt) to find a substitute for the . Salt Duty, b,fore he proposes that it shoal(' be repealed. lie (Alr. Culcraft) denied that it was his duty, in his presentsitua tion as a Member of Parliament, to do so, and he contended ;lint at all, events a. tax to whiCh.so many objections could be urged, would be best got -rid of altogether. But it 11:id been said the Salt Tax liaTh been,. tepealed in 1730, and no . benefit had Been -found to result from the. measure. He, however, would ask, it the Right liouourable Gentleition, who had advanced this assertion, would compare the present times to the period thus referred to ? or would he take upon himself to say the lepeal Of the Salt Tax now would not be a great benefit ? He was con vinced,' whatever the Right Hon. Gentleman's determination might be, that his sentiments were the same as formerly—the same as haul been em bodied in the Report of a Committee to that House. He now only wished him to be consistent with himself, and - therefore lie directed his atten tion to that Report. lie was anxious that the subject should be reconsidered, and that they Should fairly inquire whether 'u subStitote could not be found for it, or whether it could not be dispensed with althgether. The House divided, when the numbers were— • For the Motion .v. 7U For the Previous Question Majority againbt tha Marion.— - 7 9 On the motion of Mr. D. lit ow N, a Select coin- Wittee was aririointed to inquire into the Election Laws of Ireland. Sir J. iItActiISTOSH fixed his motion respecting the Droiti *of Admirtilty cluiuicil ley the Crown, ,for the 13th of. May.. Mr. larrll.l3TON biolight in a 13;11 for the styp pressioa of Copper Totten!), which %Y as read, a first and ordered to lie. read ,a second time on Wednes day. •, . EXIT...NM - I'N MD. :Ur. W. SNUTA wishbd, before the House ad journed, to ask the Obancellor of the ,Excliequtr a question which he had formerly put to him. It had so happened, that since he last it , iked theques lien, the Ch'ief 113roo had died, non he now wished to inquire if the Bill which it .was proposed to bring in on the subject of EAtents in Aid, world be in any respect protracted by that. rmforttinate event ? For as the Bill in question, when brought would give rise to considerable. discussion, he did not think it well that it should be brought in at a very lute period of the Session, t i:* CBANCELLOR, .of the I.xcriF.Quat, begged to assure the Hon. Gentleman", that it was his' wish that the Rill sluntld. he brought in as early as possible, in, order that it might undergo the fullest discussion. Care would be therefore taken that no delay should occur that could be avoided. 'llse unfortunate event alluded to by the liononr able .14cufleman had certainly somewhat retarded the measure.. It was, however, in a state of fcir warilness,,and no time would be unnecessailly lost. Mr. ARUUTHWIT presented Papers relating to the New Post.Oflica, the Lanni-Tax, &c. Or dered to be printedo—Adjourned, • LAW INTELLIGENCE. CoN'ArsToity COURT, DoCTons'cOmmoxs. THE HON. ANNA MARIA FITZMAURICR, ounononN callea LADY VISGOUNTASS KIRKWALL, against THR ZION. JOHN HAIILLTON FITZNIAURICE, moray culled Lotto VISCOUNT IISKWALL. This was a question as to the admissibility, of a libel of on the part ,of Lady Kirkwall, in a cause of divorce, instituted by lies Lidyahip against Lord Kirkwall, by reason of alleged adultery. .The libel pleaded, that Lord and Lady Kirkwall were married by special license in August, 1802; at -Abergelly, in Denbighshire; that, they lived to gether from that time until the year 1809, and Gail two childien. A separation then took , p l ace , itt e proequence of souse unhappy dif ferences which had arisen between them ; and her' Ladyship has since resided in Various places at the west cm! of the tow n,apart from his Lordship. ,The . libel farther pleaded, that in the beginning of the year 1814, Lord Kirkwall formed a criminal in tercourse with a woman of the nat»e of Taylor, ss'ito lived in lodgings, in Parklilaeo„ o G r ro tnh s j s a •et k ior l :square; and that he from th a t t i me . became in the habit,o(visiting her there for cri minal purposes. The libel then charged various acts of adultery to have been committed by them at those rind other lodgings; .and tarltier pleaded, that his Lordship - , about the shine time, formed it, shiftier conneetioo.ivith ie mari it'd woman of the nitrite Of NVel.h, then residing with tier husband t that he afterwards lived with her in vai ions loclg * l o g s, awlstill continues to do so at olgings n i segaret-street, Caveml;:ll,-sciii thesea rc;aottittcesir, Charged &lottery bet ween thell It alt Dr. ARNOLD and Dr. lip trzAny , in OppOS . llion to the adMisSibility of the libel, obiected, that it did not plead the neriod when the uclulcrry tii•St c. iinj4 to Lady Kirk wall's knowledge. It kV . M3 piCadvd, that it OCCIIITed in Isl 4, and Sabsequent ITT's L.,s n i. don ond its oc;glibourhoOd ; and that she was re, cident in London during the whole !kite ; yet the Suit Was not brought Moll the latter cod of 1811 i, it Was therefore to that she was cognizant of the aitoltery,-and aeqo4.lrifig in it, particularly as she was living in a state ut ye- hintary teuratitin rtoni her httahand and She teat not, therefOre entitled, to the remedy she now - Dry W,1131" jar, tbitIING'TON, in reply to the.Plaection.,:contended, that the mere residence of Lady Kirkwall In tondOn, did not necessaril give s rise to the inrcr enec t h at s h e was eognizank cat t h e adultery, as a large tatvO was of all Waco the best mi.opted for 'carrying on such an inter eourNe with secrecy; but were it otherwise, for bear.inet to a ,eerqtin extent %Vas justifiable, and e'ven,eutinnerldablei-on the part of a could not eodstitin,e bar to the reliiedy which she might sca t nitiirfioding that her I t orbearanee had been the facts pleaded, on!l the nature of' tie. objection t.11;e11 ;IA cr.pressed his opinion, (hot tie objection w,ts not sustain-ahle eithtte -in point or in point of law. Lie conk' no; . assent to the. informer, that Lady Kirkwall was to be _presumed cognitaut of 'the adultery because she lived in Lnndup, where it took place,;, us a person in this great town moves in a state at' comparative obscurity as 'to hii actions, to what a person does who lives in a le'ss ',Options plaice, where his life is open to con tinual observatiof) : magna ?grid, magna, solitrrclo. There was nothing in lbe facts charged to show that. Lady 'Kiri:W.4l"s suspicion must, of neces 7 'city, have been excited, or that the adithety might nut hive taken place Without her knowlt dge ; but 'supposing that she was acquainted with it, thotigh a husband was bound to take prbmpt notice of Iris wife's : incuichi y, and was liable to have his neglect of so 'doing Urged against him, when afterwards seeking his legal remedy, yet this doctrine was not to be pressed against a Wile, unless in very particular eases. liven In the (UM not bf a hus band, it was ineaiiably expected that he should shoW the time when the crime int. puted first citine to his knowledge. It might be prudent and expedient, for the success' of his 'suit, that he should do so, hilt it was not solutely necessary. t ertaialy a wife would not be justified in living in the same house with her husband's eallet4bine, Shilling - the turpitude of his crime; but she might have a teasonahle hope of his return to her society; anti 'forbearance tinder. this 'apes re‘uperandi had neVer yet been. held to constitute a bar to her legal - reitietly, when every hope of that: lantisbould.he extinct. The Learned Judge was therefore of opinionohat the objection was neither stistainablein point of law or in poio ! , of fact, and"be therettire the libel to proof. court OF ityttiL LARD"RIVrR tt. HARDINIAN: ..... This wnean•action brought. by the Lord of Granbaarn=chase. 'The declaration coir taincd first, that the defendant brolmand'-ehteOld. that part or CranhoOrti•chase situate in,theintrish of Hartley, and with dlovr i &c. todawfOny cl; a haatvd. Woonded, and cat vied away, the plaint ti's deer : the secood count, omitted. the ; and t e tra third was for taking and, ciirryfog atvity the,,goodo and ehatte44 viz. the bucks and, deer of she plmiold, #t ward othoitted un• the trial before Mr. Justice 'A anoTi at Dorchester, that the .place where the tetras Ws cotataitted Was Within the nri:cioets sit the Chase, and that Lord Rivers had no property to that neighbriatTiod. It Was also established, thal the :leer chased Were wild and unreelaimed. The verdict was taken for the nlaiotill on the first count. Mr. CAsasno now moved for a new• trial, con tending, that the plaint iff, as lord.of the chase, had no such property in the deer as to entitle him, in the declaration, to call them his; and Conse• I fluently; that t hr. verdict ,ought to have ticen for the defendant. In support of this argument, lie first feferred to the c3. , e of Swann, (7 Coke, 17 b., where it is said, " When a man bath savage beasto rcitioite pritilegii, as by reason of. 'park, warren, &c., hats not any property the deer,. conies, pheasants, or pant ridges ; therefore, &C. he shall not say Sims." The same was laid down in Br. Abr. Tit'. Property, 01: 4, in-Coto,: 1)1g. Tit. F.' ph. 1t36, ,and .Lay. 237. The Court, however, intimated.. a Strong opi+ nion against these authorities ; and others, hi which, the contrary, doctrine ti'as held, were O.' ferred to in lilackstone.and Lund 14aymond.. It was also said that the practice was directly at %)it. rianee with the argument, not only ,in easel Of game but in Ahe - ries, where the so of a fisli6ty called the lists his, • CASRRIID 31111 pressed the point : whci•o • ' the objection had been .taken . it has availed, though the matter ' might . sopetimets pass :still it. , /Naito , : he contended, that though the owner of the, chase had on Undefined sort 01 property, to lione loci, he h►xd. not that sole and exclusive pro perty in the deer, &c,.. %ilicit would enable him to maintain t►n action like the present. Lord ELLeNnottottott.7-After the cases and the practice to the 'contrary, it might be attended with dangerous consequences if the question were now raised.--Rule refused. 1101to11011 OF ILCH4STER. Mr. GASELKE moved, for a 'rule to ihoti cause wby au attachment should not issue against live capita burgesses of the borough of ileheiter, and 'their snlicitor. I_, why the retina made by 'heat Os writ.of pumrianio sholitil tint be expunged ; why the writ should, not be delivered to the bailiff of the linrough ; and why prheeedings on the cilium Should not be stated, until the present tion vas' disposed of. Tito .motiOn for an attachment was founded upim affidaviis, chdrg ing the five burgesses and their solicitor tvitli preventing, ,or trativavoto ing -to prevtat., the doe execatioa of a writ tutindonois, which to the List term, directing th e h a da to p t ocevd to the election at tt capital burgess, to fill up rt vacancy, A thy_ was appointedito that put' pose, anti, tine notice of thd meeting was given and' at II o'clock in the morning five - of theleapitat Intel:v*lms tuid the bailiff attended foe the purpose ~f obtying.t!te.W of these five Ilie solicitor en. dFavonted to draw away oily, but tt it hoot Stir- , 6.1 S i he, however, and five other, of the hnr gesseS, remained itt tt Ittibilt-liowie close to the place of ; and, although repented too ages were sent to them, they_ did not think fit to attendill . oHei to moake•ti majority for the eti.7e tiou of a person to fill ;be vacancy. The bailiff its