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owOmPir nioSt nigh t f the would o wed than t V. °lf I.s lo sint3, ; 6 rch " t e bo ,ncliog set 4 e pre to r ya bject • 00 ,e mo o the b il le i that Qe ould b a s and ey't he sub3; c e !t O PP ° Ir. 'riend wo uliJ tbel " 0 4 thit THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 3, 1847: I l i eedY remedy for the . . —.. soe ._ , itohre n pie o l he h a afforded. On On a second occa ion when the Member behind him. It was going upon a most dangerous principle. F. M el e e ) b roug ht th e same subject before -He would not yield to that Right Hon. Baronet in the slightest same t e t te, the Right Honour .ble Baronet repeated the degree in his support of ihe principles of toleration, and in his of s i tes 'S un g. He must s• v, that th continued refusal admiration of the great body of the Free Church, yet he could "Y Proprietors war most impelitie, and ottPosed to the not support the present motion, because he honestly believed lin. t,intereststhat tand welfare of the eountry.--; Hear, hear. ) He he- ;it would tend to retard instead of advance the cause they were ttleu r i ,a lt ; t time and reconsideration had hed its effect, and that so anxious to promote. The question was in course of settle thouee. -es were not now of so frequent occurrence as formerly, ' ment ; it would, in due course a things, be arranged by the teat though he regretted to find that l a few still existed. He saw people of Scotland themselves, and for the House to of re.o l! were eves still i n th e F ree Church—though all hope step in and interfere would be to revive the evil. It was ad union rtes now given up—where the inhabitants of ex- : misted that since last year the cases of refusal of sites had seuurdei restricts were totally debarred from worshipping God greatly reduced, and that this year there were hot thirty. This he 11,,, n , g t o Their consci ences , U n d er these c ircumstances, showed that the cause of the complaest was being gradually r eeled s Friend had come forward to ask, not for a legislative done away with, in obedience to the expressed feeling of the te ir Yeor the grievances complained of, but for a Committee I House, and the sense of the Scotch people. To appoint a Ew e into them It was alleeed that strong reasons i Committee, therefore, would be of no use, but to extorts again 1 e wes _ in ,,, enany case s f or re f us i ng th e s ites. If that were so, I the had furthest that was dying a.vay. With regard to the ' eerie ue..,ldepisnate cause of ing - a.ry, and would very properly I Duke of Buceleuch it was well knosse that he had only refused liew eeer tr its censideret n ee Te te , were some p ro prietors, , because parties, mieislets eiel their frien a from a distance, h esome t as soon as they b ecame aware th a t a re-union had : came o n his e,tates and excited his own tenantr y against him. be en r I PP"ssib'e, had sr - ranted the sites, which till then ha: IHe (Mr. S. Wortley) del nit. say that the Noble Duke acted w.osl,itifet,used. To a scer t a i n w h o th os e proprietors were l right in refusing sites, still Le mentioned this in his The e Le the result attained by the laheuts of the Committee. I vindication. As a proef that the state of things was would h '„" whe labeured unde - r the imputation of refusing sites steadily ion.roving, he would refer to the tact that fl aeoess 've an opportunity of arcsowing the motives weich in- white thousands of petitions were poured in last year „,":._ them in such ourse. He, therefore, for into Parliament on the subject not one was presented during h serese e: ready to assent to the inquiry. He did not, the pre ent.—( Hear, hear. ) On these grounds, therefore, he t o a . Wish to he understoeod as pledging hi mse lf did not think any good would come front the Committee. Ile There legi'lative course in consequence of that assent. would therefore oppese its ap .ointment. cessationere parties who were unwill ng to believe that the Lord J. RUSSELL, i n r i s i ng to support the motion, must eilli ee 1. , w ould be perman e nt, and therefore they were un- not be understood as speaking on the behalf of the parties to se, 4 a u sec ie t rant sites ; but that expectation must have leng whom it had reference. oven had more strongly rests , ed sled He a ''."'ay, and for the future better things were to be the cla.ms of the Free Church py before the unfortunate sece.F qqp,tion e del not wish, on this occasion, to enter into the 51 in than himself, as he could see no good that would arise from It. tho ur,ht as to whether the cessation was right or not, but he But the seeesseen had taken place. A great number of the ehle, carried with would admit that it was a remarkable event, people of Scotland had left the Established Church, and their tb e rolu "rled with it the sympathies, if not the convictions, of ministers had given up their houses and their means of liveli ttr iellar je , He wished for one moment to glance at the cir- hood, so that they might be at liberty to express the strong Plea sed dosdunder which this in i uiry was proposed. It had religious feelings which they en' ertained, freely and unmolested. le tie to visit a part of Scotland with severe destitution, That secession having taken place, he was now no less persua eileare,_ ' 5 state of things the members of the Free Church, dad that everythiog should he done to enable them rep o :ley, all sectarian feeling, had joined with all parties in to preach and to practice the doctrine which they It ea 7 common fund for removlng the prevailing distress. believed that it was their right Hear, hear ., ..) Parti es i t , i _nw, for the first time since the cessation, that both The Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester (Sir th rown _ed come teeether in harmony and union. They had Janies Graham), put the case in a smooth and round form, te erosth as , ide all ill-feelieg, and, united, they had taken upon from which they might conclude that all further inquiry into ria lfecl, " the good wilt of feeding the hungry clothirg the the subject was unnecessary. He said that the facts were un them hr a , n d arresting the progress of the destitution. -- Let disputed—that a Committee was not required, but no sooner Welk he Pe , then, that before the year closed, all differences had the Bight Hon. Baronet concluded than up got the Noble ne s , . c forgotten, and both parties would again unite them- Lord the Member for Lynn, and said that regarding the Si r in Pod fellowship and religion, etr In facts, they were not to be taken for granted. He disputed di scossiu H. INGLIS was unwilling to enter into a general their correctness, and stated that the reason why sites had klest e n of the subject, but, before hs proceeded further, he in many instances been refused was, because the Free and be allowed to exress his sense of the feeling Church parties bad acted in such an unbearable and oppressive had lelloderatemanner that to grant them was impossible.—(Hear, hear.) manner p in which his Hon. Friend Let e e "' li ght forward this motion. (Hear, hear.) Now, this was to be ascertained by inquiry. As the facts eetopenenidust say that no object which he had ever felt himself were disputed, and as these reasons for a refusal of sites were ja a re, to oppos e was ever brought forward and advocated given, a Committee of Inquiry to ascertain the truth was re ditterent utter noire calculated to gain it friends. This was very quired. They would then learn the true reason why the Seer etare ' r eet the le °position made last year by his friend the grant of sites was refused. Here it was confessed there . was ni anoer „r at ‘i , ar (Mr. Fez Maule). He spoke not of the a considerable grievance. In one place patties were driven direct an he referee,' to the object. There they proceeded to to the moor and the moss, under the pelting of the storm, and Ing e t ry. " lea; here they only proposed a Committee of drenched by rain, in order to listen to religious worshi in such t'llie feeliuet he did think that some regard ought to be paid a way as they desired. Like the Covenanters of ofd, when a n esse nt i n " and principles of those who supposed that it was persecution was the established law, .they were deprived of . all °I the , e a l part of their dui to forward the pri tciples shelter in their endeavours to worship according to the die- Fr with hi Church of y Scotland. He could not tares of deer consciences. In other places they had to go out in boats to meet the ministers whose religious doctrines they ti P some '' nis Honourable Friend who seemed to hold eut ants : whose names he had mentioned as bigots and parse knew re ie i n t. 'tn.adhered to. All this had been justified, on the ground of the rights of property. Now a legislative rrn . eels , was talked o , especially of them le ( Sir R H. In; lash) and while on the one hand he was unvyitling to consent to h a t u anytte irna telY. and knew his lion. Friend was quite unequal g°rsioe' unworthy of—he would not say a roan, but ot a legis , atiye remedy on a subject of such difficulty, on the other s e e u or i n hand, it it were proved that the bets alleged were true —that a Chri h s i t s ia fi n e c a ounte He felt himself bound to flet te P s , and defend Friend Sir James Riddle, who he the inquiry showed that the refusal of sites die of arise from forw erd l t ; ) incapable of it, and would be the first to assist in the improper proceedings of the parties themselves, but l w . ere , simply refusals on the ground of being . a different . 1... e religious total of th e g a ny great benevolent object. In reply to the state sect, and if the pastors still were obliged to worship with la.. that t h e Proposer, he mi ht in the first lace, remind him d I ,s4 P o n Pulation was overst g ated ; there Were p but 3 000 ople• out the shelter of a roof or dwelling, he would not be India tcheatitobey," h o o f w th e e v rn ev, be a l n o , n i gi ing to the Free Church ' Hepassed posed to a legislative retriedy.---( hear, hear.) It was, there fore, a case for inquiry, as it would not be for the House at he saw hy the smile . of the Hon. 'Meld a rnan that he did not consider that any answer. But he once to interfere. He admitted that if the Free Church was y ear, w s h k th e entitled to sites, that Co was the Roman Catholic, the Society Hon. Member, as he had asked him the former the oth er et i l 2 rr he was prepared to give the same privileges to of . Friends, or any other religious body.—(Hear, hear.) The -tene t , issenter s ? He recollected that last year the Hon. principle he admitted was universal. But though that was did til eet in u a t n a f i Nle F Maule), when . he put the question to him,. the , . case, it did not convince him that a legislative re ake e,, e I thsaete,nl pre area to reedy was not advisable.----( Hear, hear.) There was no ll"efure thoughtsecede to the proposition. He us e to .t, that his Hon. Friend ought not to move the thing more sacred than the right of every man to wore the principle of which he was not prepared to ship according to the dictates of his conscience ; and though I le th rni nen to all—Roman Catholic as well as Protestant. some gentlemen of the highest character and most benevolent to gr n a ught that the rem fining landowners who had refused disposition had refused sites, it only o what extremes I,..t4enhernist sites had done SO by the conduct of the men of the best feelings would go on the question of religion. 'en e ,of the free church of Scotland , lie had —( Hear, hear. ) They had an instance in the Hon. Member Pla ces ' r edibly informed that at Kimoss, arid some other for the University of Oxford himself, than whom none could ro te ; the Fr ee Ch urc h h a d built their their establish- possess a more kind or benevolent disposition, but on . this th e eh ' ur n,ot only near to, but in actual juxtaposition with, question he has shown how little he can teel for the sufferings eed the !n es of the establishment, insomuch that the same bells of others.—( Heat, hear. ) He thinks the people h of . Scotland tion t o e a .arne clock answered for both buildings. The real clues- should support the churches that were open for t . eir accom tneet, efePute was, whether he, as a member of the establish- modetion, and has no regard for their feelings or opinions when fo r th snnuld be compelled to erect building' upon his estates they differ from him. But boss wuu.d chat -non. Member like, if he wa e i llu_rpos . e of . propagating a system of worship to which he were in a town where there was no place of worship but a Nse before opposed. He hoped the House would Rom an Catholic that t d thtoetaettwenasd plentythere f o o f r t t e h n e n r i e . tion. ' they gave their assent to the proposition of the was no other place for him,and the ,_.. M ember for the a pp o i n t men t o f a S e lect Committee on —(Cheers and laughter.) This showed, hew little persons d act justly in religious esLi e a rl e j t ect. He did not think that the Duke of Buecleugh of the kindest notions e pl aces timed by any unworthy motives in refusing sites for disputes,—( Hear, hear.) . IThoouunlgtho admit might he considered a Xe re .e' la t Public wors hi p . H e thought the Hon. Member for dangerous principle in . legislation ri dmit g such a remedy as he violation of the rights of e. as eettr ock had introduced the question in the manner that referred to, and that it would ties measure most unobjectionable, still he did not think that a legisla- property, still he would be prepared to support it if he saw it uteesure would mend the matter. , Sir JAMES GRAHAM wished to say a equally violated in questions of heath. required. With respect to the rights of prop . erty. was not the rights of property few words in the r r esent l e . stage of the discussion. It having been his painful 0 r streetsremoving v ionrgsaquar housees? bads to address the House more than once before. He but • , little to add, and nothing to retract. He was if they thought such a step was necessary. On the same e e' e fieh regretted that sites had been refused to the think, in the granting of sites, that inter ', tub er . o f th e Free Church, and that some individual fPerriennrcilelemhigehtditble required —(Hear, hear.) In the course Pr e e n • p e ors, from a sense of duty, had m d e such a a Oxford retusal refusal, h ~,i d t of f the present debate he had been glad to hear hut one opinion Was, after all, as the Member of the University t at u eted, with many of these proprietors. a case of conscience ; whatever decision the House might come to, those who had the differed with the Hon. Member in thinking that the hitherto made such refusals would take noti c e of this general Present motion was better than the one proposed last year b y express ion of opinion, and c ange their course of proceed the Hon. Member for Perth. He did nut consider t h at t h e i ng in relation to the worshippers of the Free Church. l i.i 'stion was one for a Committee. It was admitted th a t err - Mr. SCOTT was prepared to give his vote against this -;in ss . r __or e. tee gr e at p ro p r ietors o f Scoil a nd had refused sites to the Committee of Inquiry. if he were to consult the wishes of or etteehurch. N o one attempted to deny it. The Hon. Member one of the Noble parties who were so (ten alluded to, he be ie _Ndroar noc k' s state m ent of lac's. which had been presented lieved that he would court inquiry, and prove beyond doubt. tei,:realm and dispassionate manner, presented nothing new, that he had good and sufficient reasons for withholding these th at had been only two a ddi t i ona l cases stated ; the one was sites. Similar, he believed, would be the sentiments of Lord th at t 'd Lord Macdonald, of Skye, and he was even told that Macdonald. When he remembered the late commotions in cu e w o w, had been mentioned last year. These refusals the Chureh of Scotland, and the fact that the vast number of diminish as the weight of public opinion would come to bear q sites which had been in the first instance refused had dwindled fe e ie n P - the subject. He understood that they were already down to about thirty, he could not but see with pain this re it h _: number. What was the object of the measure? Why opening of the question, and he hoped that within a few years sett. ' 1 been frankly stated by the seconder of the motion that if the) were to allow the public opinion to unfold itself, the 1 ,-,ll°s LI r ewa s . the object. Now such wa,, not a pr o p er o bj ect . country would be at peace—(Loud cries of "Divide.") t it le % nwee discussing the subject at a moment when eve r y Colonel MURE thought they were bound to make inquiry, feeling in their nature should be called forth ; they and he would support the motion of the Hon. Member, at the w ere in the midst cf a great national calamity, of such an extent same time not pledging himself to support ° any after m o ti on 44, 1 of su c h an awed character, that it humbled the pride of which might be founded upon it.—(Cerdinued cries of % t a n. He did agree in the sentiments of Mr. Jones Loyd, so "Divide.") rue'oorently expressed, and which they had all read in the The gallery was then cleared for the division, when there a rung pap er , that the present was an occasion when the appeared— grye, opposition of party ought to be silenced. and all the For the motion for inquiry eern • Against it . .... .. ... . 6l sentiment bitterness of religious animosity might to be assuaged in the po,u of Christian charity. Now, he would ask, was ex- Majority e ees r e a legitimate object? •r was it desirable that the con- POOR REMOVAL BILL. We„ ' of certain individuals should be Inquired into? If there Mr. BANKES then proceeded to call the attention of the , outn no other grounds, he would be Prepared to resist the Howe to the report of the Select Committee on the Settlement t er I . • Was it just, or was it advisable, that they should anePonr Removal, and also to the copy of the case submitted in be l e re into what were the religions opinions of the the Poor Law Commissioners to the Law Officers of the eou e p of Buecleuch en of the Earl of Aberdeen ? He Crown, for their opinion with reference to the construction . of l'l's ask, was it even tolerable that such an inquiry s hould a clause in the Poor Removal Act. It had been his (Mr. teet abase? lle lamented these refusals. He did not think Bankes') endeavour to induce the committee to examine l ared ,eY would continue. The Secretary of State had de. the the workir g of the measure as it affected thc comforts of tor 4 ( , o hat they had diminished. and he therefore saw no room the poor, but after some discussion, a majority of the Committee br oo 4' t Mmitt ee o f Inquiry. He considered that the measure determined to postpone that consideration. If the Committee se t a t e e in by the Member for Perh was M'.st o bje c tionable, did not, before Eastsr, make greater progress than they had e h uorou ou ^ rs e of legislation on that subject would be most yet done, he should feel it his duty to bring in a measure did r iot !' The question was, however, one of degree, and he modifying in a very great degree, or perhaps, repealing alto were te doubt the competency of the Legislature, but if they gether, the Act of last session. It had been promised by the lol srr eecetslate they should do it on the principle of general Noble Lord and son e others of the :Members of the Govern ell sovietse it must not he confined to Scotland, but extend to ment, that this subject would be laid before the House this 'toted J. The principle of toleration was universal. He session ; bnt looking to the great diversity of opinion in that Com 4lit etmu L ti trespass up on th e a tt en tio n of the House further! mittee, he did not see any . hope that they would . have a measure tee ' a ed to lose grounds he would obj 'et to the motion, and i f introduced in sufficient time to warrant them in expecting it L er,t _.a division, he would vote against it. to pass into a law that session. There was a feeling very , the le i e ", • RENTINCK concurred in all that had fallen from popular now-a-days to do away with settlements altogether, and as h e g s " , ' Hon. Baronet who had just sat down. more especially to provide fc r the poor by a national rate. 'that feeling R ight fionu,ild not agree wi•li the sentiment expressed by the heel greatly progressed in consequence of the deft. 1 1 4 Seott am i Member opposite, that if the proprietors of land ciencies of the Bill passed last Parliament.—( Hear.) feti ng the refs-ed to rant sites, he was prepared to take them He believed that the abolition of settlements would be most *he h ada , ley legislative enactments. Every Hon. Member prejudicial to the poor, alit that it would not (as had been the i i ,.... (..Illre..sed, the Howe had praised the moderation of absurdly argued) give a stimulus to industrial exertion. To leitt ee. “ ,l - lleenber who moved the appointment of this Cern- support his statement he must allude to the evidence of Mr. r ife m aeort i s t e t admitted that there was the swirlier moth) in GulsAssistant Poor-law Cemmissioner, but he must Zee e i e n y ' r w t h h , ut there was also something of the fortiter in. re, first state that the reason he had not referred to it before was, eitniverie) when speaking of the Duke of BuccleUch ; he (Mr. because the Committee which sat upon this subject decided ne te n . acknowledged the virtues of the Noble Duke, but upon reporting before they heard, arid published the evidence. All th hinted that he was willing to indulee in a little persecution. Now, Mr. Gulson, in his evidence, said the Act was unjust Per °se . who were acquainted with his Grace, were aware that and defective, had totally failed in its operation, and must _ aecution w A raor4 as altogether foreign to his character, and that sooner or later be altered. This he thought was enough to Lv rt id t e rtt thgeneroaus person did not exist. It was prove his case. He could conceive no better testimony in his r f eat l degree of provocation had eivour than this. It wa3 perfectly true that . it counterbalanced thet c , re : n i‘ a ,i n e Y ot of a t n h d es i e n i r g e . usa s. He believed nothing could be the evidence of the Po g-law Commissioners themselves, to p resehets of te,.orous than the denunciations flung by but he thought the preference ought to be given to Mr. Gul _ g reor i the Free Church upon those who had refu s ed son's evidence, because he had ample opportunities of witness.- r eeare to , 1 7t He was not prepared togo into an inquiry with ing its injurious effects upon the poor, whereas the Poor-law I'io b_ , 'ne conduct of his Grace and other noble individuals Commis i had no such opportunities. Mr. Guleon 3 o . n . ers i selied .a been alluded to. If the landowners were to be corn- s oke ractically, but the Poor-law Commissioners gave their s i tes to grant sites fur the Free Church, on what ground were evidence theoretically. No doubt the intention of the Act es to be refused to the Homan Catholics? Wherever the was good but in carrying out its details it was found to be tub e l i , p _ e burs of the Free Church had been refused sites, it was unjust and inoperative. Perhaps it did not weigh so oppres sively upon the peer as the rate-payer, but even admitting '1 . ‘ 1 ,4 " they wished to build them in offensive stations. that proposition, the law ought to be altered in that respect or l ir. F. MAULE No no ~._ ee . ord G. BENTI — NCK—He believed, however, that such discontinued altogether. .He regretted much that Govern -11"' the case. they wishing to build their churches beside, or ment had allowed the sssion . so far to advance without stating b 1 ,7 51 * to, the churches of the Establishment. 'l'o conclude, he what they intended to do with the poor-law. He did not egged to say that he would support the Right H on . B arone t , x p ee t that they would have disclosed its details Ly fe his objection to the motion. this time, but certa'nly he had e x p ec t e d that its have Mr. F. M AULE, a ft er th e speec h o f th e N o bl e L or d an d g eneral principles wouldbeen communicated to the that of the Bight Hon. Gentleman who preceded him, he House. Had there bee p n n a o n t y -la p w ar , tt h 'e e s w in as the quite Hocuesret responsible certain so many and he was, therefore, the thought that without going into any argument, he could ET the operation of the e stablish Nte_ a fair claim to an inquiry into the subject. The defects could not have crept into it, ..',',.. Lord had brought forward assertion a ft e r as s ertion, m o r e anxious to learn what improvements wore t o b e intro _ "' hhe (Mr. F ox M e ule) would be able to rove before the duced into it. The law had been decided by the law officers of Committeee were wholly without foundation, and the facts of the Crown, as well as other eminent legal authorities, to be pres e: wt hai been misrepresented to the Noble Lord. If the defective, and he thought the House was entitled to have the trues of Were a question for a Committee of Inquiry into the Mo- or inion of these legal gentlemen. But he did not ask for much, House t tnnividitals, he would be one of the last to ask the all that he asked for was the case upon which the opinion was 'Ought foo grant the Committee moved for. The Committee elven. Mr. Lewis, in the Committee, stated that six questions eue e. , . e r was only ene to inqure int" a national grievance, and were submitted to the law officers of the Crown upon which to rcor : n tli affe c t e d an integral part o f th e nation, and affected found their opinion upon the legality of this law, and it was for Kingdo than o ne half of the population of that part of the noted th e p ro d uc ti on o f t h ese six questions that he now made this o n , f ats The matt ers i n i ss ue h a d been before the House motion. They were called for in the Committee, but it was reade feemer occasions, and each time the statements stated that only the House of Commons had the power to ask wa r d i n' the Hono ura bl e , m em b er w h o brought them for- for their production, and it was under these circumstances that tree a ru full ti le , , had been disputed, and he must say that he he brought forward the present motion. At present there was h ave gnt the time was now come when the House was bound to a strong feeling abroad, that the law ought to be wer e explanation of the matters complained of. If it abrogated altogether, but he warned the Govern been _ se e . that unjustifiable language had upon some occasions ment that their best course was to amend its r riade l d, unworthy of Christian ministers, let the facts be defective provisions, and the strong feeling would subside. ro d o l ` r : Peblic as the refusal of sites had been made. He In an amended form, and, wtth the aid of a new Poor-law , 'our ee w . l ._ sh t° Protect or to expose either of the parties. Commission. the Act might prove successful, but, without bevel_casesbeen brought forward of individuals that amendment, it must still remain unjust and inoperative. wlrii g wit e i l i u r sed t. grant sites, but they w .re only brought for- Mr. C. BULLER said it was a rule in the legal profession, Proprietor., reference to districts in which there were no other which had always been respected and observed, both by the uf , he -, and thus enhancing the difficultie3 of the members House and the Government, that neither the case nor the opi been tb Free Church. He world tell the Noble Lord what had nions of counsel should be produced. The question which had in the e. conduct of the ministers of the Free Church been referred to the Committee alluded to, by the lion Gen soled, island of Sloe, to whom sites had been re- tleman opposite, was a most difficult one. Opinions upon the do ne thaend what hail been its results famine had law of settlement were so very diversified, tha. it W 11.3 quite p erson r e — starvation had done its worst, and many poor i m p o s s ible for the Committee to have come to any decision at One sti had been dri ven to desperation. Threats were upon the subject, without first considering its general la st ,__ ri m e e held out that the poor would apply to their own bearings, and without considering what were the et „. uu " t s ain e the flocks of sheep which were grazing on the particular circumstances of each mode of settlement. ! hi eh th sid"' From the pulpits, and in the gravel pits in The question which he thought to he decided by the t em need Py were f,d t o assernele for Divine worship, the i mittee was, whether there was anything connected with the needs of of obedi ence was successfully inculcated u pon the I framing of the law, which rendered the working of that th e t)‘„. the people, and rot a single instance had occurred of I measure, in a manner contrary to the opinions of those who Poor l ! eo tiOn of property. Was it to be borne that these I brought in tha measure. The opinion of the majority of the tots{ curettel'i be denied the iivilege of a roof to protect , Committe was, that the intereretation of the Committee n or , o ini , l , mency of the weather during teeir ce l e hra- ; should bet' different to the interpsetation put upon it by the that , e ' Divine worship ?—( Hear, hear. ) He believed 1 framers of the measure. A particular interpretation had been th ese " the House refused the latter, they would drive i put upon the Act, in consequence of which, one half of the of dritePoor men t o d espa i r an d a lso r isk ipaupers of the country had obtained an irremovable run the 1 ti e tree them from the h - abit , of at t ending settlement; and he, for one, would not consent to public worship. ' __lnost earnestly trusted Cunnitt ce _ . that the House would grant the alter the measure, so as to meet the supposed in. ru t h of Inquiry. This was all they of the framers of that measure. It would be a fining u ght be 1 'd• wanted, so that the tentions . . th e co l ' ai are and toe toey might ascertain whether great hardship to the poor of the country if such a course were h and r, 1-. IV complaints of the Free Church were founded in adopted. The excuse of the Committee for refusing the evi et, mitred redress.—( Hear, hear.) 1 dence of run Gulston upon the working of toe present law war, ti ' STU A ii . v t ; ••, ~ , etn a , w _ ‘ T OR 1 Le,e. eiouelit tile Right Hon Gee.- that 1 0 Hu", '1,T,...1 - ;er fer Daiectshire Iced prupobed 'ha' eer etatiee ," first aduressed tile House or tei dof the " - i emsk., evidence too late; the evidence had been closed when he offered "'I (Sir George Grey)should ha ve • °- i remained silent on it, and the committee rere then engaged in reporting upon the evidence they had heard. The House must look upon the question as a whole ; it was one which affected, to an immense extent, the condition of the people of this country. Mr. MILES said that there was a very strong opinion in the minds of the Committee that the operation of the Poor Removal Bill ought to have been most carefully looked into. The real question, he thought, for the House to consider was whether the country was to he taken in by a gross The country thought it was a fraud, and it was reprobated throughout all portions of the country as such. The Hon. Member then alluded, at considerable length, to the statements of a gentlenrn residing in the Frome union—a union con. taining twenty-nine parishes —showing the injurious operaticn of the existitg law in that union. Sir G. GREY thought that the motion of the Hon. Member was a most unusual one, and he hoped that the 11,.n. Member would not press it. He did not see what advantage could possibly be derived from publishing to the world the six doubts referred to by the Hon. Member, and which had been submitted to the opinion of the law officers of the Crown. The Hon. Gentleman should submit a definite motion on the subject, and until he did so he should consider him. , elf entife,l to abstain from entering into the general question. Mr. FINCH thought that the Hon. Member for 13,rset shire should not press his motion at present. lie vial of opi nion, however, that the Removal Act of last session was one which produced considerable evil, and was passed to favour th e landed at the eirense of the manufacturing interest ; but as the law of settlement was at present under the consideration of a Committee, he thought the Hon. Member should wait for their report. If they did not recommend its repeal, then hr would support the Hon. Member if he made a motion to that real facts of the case had been shown by the Right Hon. Gen tleman in his representation of the expense of the South - Eastern Railway. He was not content with increasing it one - th ird, or one-half. or even double, for while the real expenditure had only becn364,4051. it had been represented to be 3,8.57,000/. He stated that the expenditure on the Midland railways was 7,235,0001., when, in truth, the whole expenditure at that time had only been 1,257,800/. But he (Lord G. Bentinck) was quite willing to give the Right 1-lon. Gentleman credit for a total ignorance on this sutject. It would seem that when he took the Midland Counties Railway as an illustration, he ima gined that he was dealing with the Amalgamated Midland railways of a later period ; and therefore he included the ex penditure of the North Midland and Birmingham lines. If that were so, then the entire expenditure from the first commence ment amounted to 4,724,753'., so that the truth was, that on these seven railways from the first commencement, from th_i year 18.36, when their Acts were first obtained, the expendi ture of the whole cf them had been hut 20,437,115/. When the Right Hon. Gentleman had sent forth a statement to the country that the expense in the two years of the deficiency was 37,729,0001. ; so that they had a Chancellor of the Exchequer who, on the seven railway lines, was wrong to an amount of 17,291,0001.—( Hear, hear.) Now, if that was not a marvel lous statement for a gentleman to make, who once held the post of Chancellor of the Exchequer, he (Lord G. Ben tinck) did not know what constituted a marvellous statement. But that was not the whole case. The argument of the Right Honourable Gentleman was an answer to a speech which was made three weeks before. Though Honourable Gentleman had come down to the House calmly and deliberately, armed with the authority of the rail way Committee report, of which he was himself a Member ; he made this statement of the expenditure in the yea s of deficiency. Now, as the only years in which a great de ficiency was found in the revenue were the years 1839 and 1540, the impression which was intended to go forth to the country was that this sum of 37,729,000/. was the expenditure of the years 1839 and 1840. Whereas he (Lord G. Bentinck) found that on these railways in those two years the entire sum expended was but 9,718,9971., showing an average expenditure in each of the two years of 4,859,000/. ; so that taking this view of the question the Right Honourable Gentleman was not wrong merely in the matter of seventeen but of twenty eight millions—( Hear)—and when they reflected that this statement was come to after much deliberation ; with all the pomp and circumstance which attended an Ex Chancellor of the Exchequer, with the report of the Committee, of which he had been a member, in his hand; and when they saw that that statement was exhibited in the face cf that party, with the figures quoted in perpendicular columns; when they saw all this, he trusted the House would not think that he had occupied its time unnecessarily, in showing how little reliance was to be placed on the statistics and statements of the Right Hon. Gentleman. But when it went to the country and to Ireland, that it was on account of the pressure from the Right Honourable Gentleman that her Majesty's Government, which appeared to be wavering whether or not they would accept the measure which ho bad introduced to the House, when it was solely from the pressure of the Right Hon. Gen leman that the First Lord of the Treasury was fixed to the de claration that he would resist the second reading of the Bill when it came to that House ; it would be stamped on the public mind of the country that her Majesty's Ministers had allowed , hevneelves to be led by such blinded guides as the Right Hon. the late Chancellor of the Exchequer. He (Lord G. Bentinck) had stated that the years 1839 and 1840 were the two past years in which there was any great deficiency in the revenue, l'rue there was a deficiency of 658,0001. in 1837, and of 345,000/. in 1838 ; but these deficiencies had arisen from the re duction of 930,000/. of taxes, and did not arise from any .Tostration of the resources of the country ; but in the year 1841 there was a deficiency of 2,100,000/., and in the year 1842 of 3,979,000/. Was there, in these twe years, a great expenditure of money on railways? Far from it. He found, that in the course of these two years, there had been ex pended— On the London and Birmingham ........ £255,625 On the Great Western On the London and Brighton On the Grand Junction On the South-Western On the South-Eastern ... On the North Midland, the Midland Counties, and Birmingham and Derby, together effect. Mr. RICE thought the Hon. Member for Dorsetshire should persevere in his motion for a repeal of the Act of last session. He knew that in his own district it would operate most injuriously, for on the 25th March next, notices would be served on many cottagers in his neighbourhood, who would he obliged to leave their holdings on Michaelmas next. The Hon. Member stated several instances where the operation of the Act was most harsh. He hoped, therefore, the Hon. Member would persevere with his motion after Easter, and he might rest assured he would be well supported by petitions. Mr. E. WODEHO USE hoped the Hon. Member for Dor setshire would persevere in his efforts, and expressed his obli gations to him for having taken the question up. The late Act had operated most injuriously in his part of the country. Mr. VERNON SMITH was glad that this discussion had taken place, otherwise the report of the Committee might have had the effect of inducing a feeling throughout the country that the Act of last session was to be permanent. He hoped, however the Hon. Member would not postpone his measure till after Easter ; for he contended, that the repeal of the Poor Removal Act of last session was preliminary to coming to any arrangement with regard to the law of settlement. The sooner, therefore, he brought forward the measure the better would it be for the country. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that his respect for the time of the House prevented him from referring to the evidence that had been adduced, hut which was not before the 11011543, and for the same reason he did not intend to go into the question of the Removal Act of last session, which was DOI under their consideration. The Hon. Member for Dorset shire gave notice of his intention for an alteration, er the repeal of the Act of last session, after or before Easter. He by no means denied that the interpretation of the law officers of the Crown had given a more extensive operation to the Act, than those who had brought it forward, or the House which passed it, intended. But he could not concur in the censures which had been passed on that extension, for the balance of advantages was greatly and decidedly in favour of the poor of the country. That was not the question now, but he considered that he should be wanting in his duty if he die' not detail some of the advantages to which he referred. 'I hen. was one class, however, against whom it operated unfavourably. , He believed the Act of last tension had conferred inestimable advantages on large classes of the poor of this country. First of ail, he would call attention to that great provision in the Act, which stated that a pauper shoule net be removed after a residence of a certain number of years. The next had reference to those who re sided in a place for some time, hut who had not established a right of settlement by a residence of five years. He was satis fied that if this Act was rightly usderstood with respect to the recipients of relief, it would be found that it was decidedly favourable to the poor, and that it was therefore a humane are ~ Making a total of X8,009,687 just enactment. With regard to the effect of the Act upon th 4,000,000/. on each of these years. and he should continue to entertain it, notwith expressed, , ratepayers, he had never altered the opinion lie had alreak Or about an average of Ile must say that when the exaggerations of the Right Hon , Gentleman went to the extraordinary length of 17,000,000/. standing the offence he had thereby given to many of hi• •ii the best face that could be put on the matter, or of friends, that the law of settlement did not impose too heart 25,0'00,000/., if the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman burdens on the ratepayers. As he was a member of the Corn' mince no w sitting on the subject, her o n. not well use the were taken in its fullest extent, he was justified in saying that evidence which had been adduced befor it. If this were no it could he nothing but, a trick of the trade, or if not so it was so he might have availed himself of the evidence , chat he (Lord G. Bentinck) had already designated as mar ;Thous a statement as was perhaps ever heard within the walls of Mr. Gulsen, a gentleman of considerable experience, of that House, and most• ma reddens, Lord coming from a Chan who was called by the Member for Dorsetshire before the Com mittee, to show that they ought not to alter the present law o for a return showing the amount of money expended in the settlement. As the whole of the evidence would be in the hands of Hon. Members in the course of a few days, be en- elder of the Exchequer. The Noble concluded by moving locomotive engines, carriages, tools, Stes.,) of all railways in treated them not to give their attention to garbled extracts fetal cost of construction and of working stock (including Great Britain and Ireland in each triennial period previous to but to peruse the whole of it. He was a man of the highes authority and well conversant with the operation of the law. the first day of January respectively in the years 1841, 1844, not only in the mnufacturing districts of m this city, hut in ma , and 1847 ;as also a return , showing the sums of money actually a p ar t s of I r ela n d, i n se c t, h e po sse s s ed ore practical know 7 expended by the following railway companies previous to examined one of the guardians of the Suffolk and Cembridi ledge on the subject than any other man. They had that dal (84 1 :—London and Birmingham, Grand Junction, Great Union anti the chairman of a court of guardians in the nori; land, likewise the aggregate sum expended by the above-mcn of England, a learned gentleman of great experience, whos, .ioned railway companies in each year previous to 1841. Western, Brighton, South Western, South Eastern and Mid evidence would be found most material. In fact, he was jot cause GOULBURN regretted that he had been the innocent ti in saying that the whole of the evidence "dt'eed before cause of inflictin on the House a somewhat lengthy speech in the Committee would tend to show, that the Act of last sessiot =uPPort of certain returns to which there could have been no ought to be maintained in all its integrity, but that some poi- Possible objection. But he thought he could satisfy the tion of the existing poor-law, and even of the law of settle- Reuse that it was not to him, nor to any statement of his, that merit, admitted of correction. hey were to impute this inco nvenience. If on the occasion Mr. 0. STANLEY considered that in making the alters- when he had delivered the spe ech or ex p ressed the sentiments tions referred to, they would not overlookthe rate - payers, man) which the Noble Lord had seen fit to attribute to him, the of whom were in a cond i tion little removed from pauperism. • Noble Lord had availed himself of the privilege which he then He trusted that the Committee now sitting for the purpose of enjoyed (the flours being then in Committee), of observing inquiry into the lave of settlement, would endeavour to devise upon the statement whicts he (Mr. Goulburn) was alleged to remedies for all the anomalies which existed in the p resen t have made, or if he had asked any explanation of that state law, and which had led the Attorney and Solicitor-Generals t, (Tient he (Mr. Goulburn) would have been most ready then to form a different opinion to the one entertained by many of the ;ire that explanation which he would now be compelled to give boards of guardians. and thus would be precluded every necessity for further discus- Mr. E. DENISON considered notwithstanding the sitting sion eLn this subject.—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had of the Committee, that the House was in a fit condition to stated, that they had had a Chancellor of the Exchequer who proceed then to the discussion of the question of the law of had advanced erroneous statements, and false calculations, and settlement. No pledge had been given to the Committee that that he was therefore bound to suffer the penalties attaoheed to the question would not be entertained by the House until th e these. He (Mr. Goulburn) might say in return, that - .'l one Committee had furnished their report. He considered tha' who expected to be Chancellor of the Exchequer, end who the law had worked well ; but when the ratepayers were dis- misrepresented what fell from other Honourable Gentlemen, satisfied the recipients could not fail to suffer as the ratepayers tend founded false arguments on those misrepresentations ; he would believe the poor forced upon them, and it was not un likely that they might be used unkindly. Therefore some ,: alr. Goulburn) said that that pers on was not fit for the alterations were necessary. The evidence taken before the office to which he might be thought to a s p ire.—( Hear, hear.) With thete observations he would proceed to state to the House Committee had not had that effect upon his mind which the what it was he did say on the occasion to which the Noble Hon. Gentleman the Member for Dersetshire had stated it Lord had made reference ; he would vindicate the words had had upon his. he had made use of on that occasion, and the argument Sir W. JAMES wished to know if the Government intended which he had deduced from them. The Noble Lord said that the powers placed in the hands of auditors relating to the pay_ proper, because he was referring to a speech to take steps to remove some inconsistencies with respect to in reeking those statements he was doing that which was ins ment of accounts ? He commended the conduct of the Com. weeks before in Parliament. He was afraid the Noble Lord mittee in not wishing to interfere with the law of lastimputed to him practice to which he himself was but too sea- a sion until they had proposed the adoption of a better ' measure. prone, namely, that of taking nine days to considerhis reply. Mr. NEVs'DEGATE bore testimony that he then to the fitness of Mr. Honourable Members would recollect Member for Hull (Sir W. James), that the Poer-law Corn Gilson to give a practical opinion on the House, and Sir G. GREY stated, in working of the law, spoke to the strict question before the the on referred particularly to a speech delivered three reply to the question of inissionere had taken the matter into their special come . . en bringing g' T fo h r u etard C 11 Exchequer had, enues of deration.advertedhhaisticietlulodrget.ofthe and had shown ,he years 1842, 184 3, 1844, 1845, and LB]6, Mr. WAKLEY said, the parties who were so anxious by reference reduction of duty on get this law repealed were tyrannical boards of guardians, and tltuseladled t t o o a number of articles that.na the coneumption of gentry who had no wish to pay for the maintenance of the such articles, ChancelloranadPrtohgereive increase ef in Fachequer argued poor. Now he believed the Bill an exce ll en t one , an d he wan , ;ram thence that the reductionof the duties oil commercial d The Noble Lord sure if they compared the good end the evil of the measure articles was the wiser : policy to he pursue • . ng and toad that the former would be found to predominated to a great ex- said that the Chancellor was wrong in his reasom , tent.—( Hear. )It would be useless for him to repeat what sal r was not t • in the finan o be attributed to any change 1 had been so well said by the Right lion. Baronet (Sir James Leal policy of the countr but a to be attributed altogt ter to Graham), but he could confirm fr om h i s o wn experience all he extension of railways y . , He w said s , 4. What has free trade to do that he had stated on the subject. The ratepayer sin the me with it? It is railway enterprise alone that has done this. to the rev tropolis did not complain, so far as he could judge, of the opera file Noble Lord said he (Mr. Goulburn) had confined siteb • t ion of the poor-law. The expense of the rates pressed heavily nervations to the Years 1839.40, and followed that statemup upon them, but they bore the expense because they be- with the declaration that these were the only two years of great his own lieved that it was absolutely necessary. In his parish deficiency. Now, the Noble Lord subsequen il Yt in since the Bill had been in operation the guardians speech, admitted that there was a deficiency i n 18-11 of two had not sent any Irish paupers back to Ireland, nillions, and in 1842 of three millions • but let that pass.e because they knew that by doing so, they would drive them to rhe Noble Lord said he (Mr. Goulburn attributed th h e d fi took starvation. The Irish pauper obtained relict in this country • eienciee of the years 1839-40 to the expenditure which took when he sought it. Was it not mons.rous, that in England, trlace in those years on railways. N OW Aid he s, would an Irish pauper was entitled to relief, but that, if he were sent Goolborn) said no such thing. What he " say t at to Isis own country, under the same Crown and under the same ' tret found correctly recorded in what he n'as d " which laws, he would be doomed to starvation. The Right Hon. liberty to refer to in that House—in those memoran if tt would Baronet in passing the Bill, got in the small end of the wedg e . conveyed the debatea in some d egr ee to the Pl"' ears of end he hoped the people would see that it would be driven home, ' oe found from them that he stated, that during the o y emu awl that all future laws on the subject would be framed on the •leficiency there was raised for railways, in the courose to f leave same principle. So anxious was he to put the matter to the Pletion, no less than 47,700,000/., and in order t " bich he de test, that he gave the Irish paupers a general invitation to come the House in doubt, he stated the quarter from w ort made to over here. He wished they would all come over. He wished rived his information. He collected it from a r i ey om Committee on 2,0.'0.000 of the destitute people of Ireland would come over that House in the year 1846, from the Select however, had here during the next month--( Hear and laughter)—because it railways.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord i , that this was would bring the Parliament to its senses with respect to those fixed a charge upon him, that he state: ( 1840, but he laws. Ile was informed that in St. Ann's parish, out of every the sum expended in the years 1839 didand sa y was, that shilling paid to the poor, that 118. was paid to Irish paupers, really said no such thing. What he raised up to that and that out of 27,000/. expended for the relict the amount he had mentioned was the sutr . l . ___ i . n i question. of the poor in his parish, during the last year, date for the purpose of completing the ra 31 1 ,.. / Y GOUlban) had 20,000/. was expended in the support of Irish paupers. He The Noble Lord had told him that if he (_ d his figures he would admitted their right to relief, and would not deprive them of looked over the paper whence he obtaine to be raised. Well, it, but what he said was, that the poor-laws of the three coitus have seen that the amount included sums t the companies had tries should be assimilated, and that each county should sup- did he not state that of the total amount the an as raised 8,250,000.!. No doubt, had he been port its own poor. attending to subjects of Mr. HARRIS said that the whole of the question had arisen seeable , who were not in the habit of_atten more particuiar and from the vague manner in which the Act had been this nature, he should, perhaps, have bee h He should ave taken care to constructed, leaving it discretionary with the guardians to adopt necise in his observations. . that the whole were the guardhis hearers against the impression the law or not.years. There were Mr. BROTHERTON said that he believed that the measure had been expended fn one or twow hich was supposed to would be a humane one if properly carried out; and looking at Iwo ways of addressing that _ H•onlosre,med ar t topics, w... consist of an educated and well-i f particular topics, while it as a whole, he believed that the good more than counterba nerelv to deduce results an arguing which would lanced the evil, and he would be sorry to see it repealed. her was to go into details and particulars... Mr. B. ESCOTT said, that with respect to these numbers - heother suggest themselves to every man of i ntelligence. He of little debates, they only indicated that the whole question, naturally_e former course, for the obvious reason that he did like one of finance, was to be hung up for another session of adopteidhth (I. ake himself more dull and tedious than was Parliament. The indignation of the townspeople in England n ut . w s , t m In the way of implication the Noble had been very generally excited against the provisions absolutely neee t s i a n r t y o ' his mouth & statement which he nob le had had p the law, and he could tell them that the country people also The u Noble Lord stated that he (Mr. Goul made. were of opinion that some substantive alteration sh ould take burn) stated that this sum had been expended in the place in the relief of the poor. They could not enter in to the of two years in which there was a large question of relief without entering into that of settlement, and course • y n the rerenue.—(Hear.) Ho stated no such they could not enter into the law of settlement without enter- thin argument applied to a series of years of deficiency, ins into the question of rating. The people of England would te -n e . • with 1837 and ending with 1643. So far the state beginning otbe satisfied unless the great mass of property should be do was literally true, and was not capable of con brought he ma to contribute with the land. The proprietors of it was said that he raised this mode of argu funded tradiction. But property should be made to contribute their common impress the House what was not founded on fact, share with those who mint to upon contribute their hard earnings. It wasthat there had been a considerable expenditure in the owners namely, . of fundedproperty who made the II during the time of s poor.—( ear, hear, and laughter.)ra i lway 5 It was they who caused the great Of course he could not decide so accurately as amount of taxation an revenue. • which was levied upon the people • in order the positionof the 4 to pay and keep them up. Honourable Member in °nom - able Mr. S. WORTLEy said that • Member for Sunderland how much of 47,000,0001. nothing would satisfy the people unless there was an abolition of the law ofsettlement.was exp have b an inco • Mr. BANKES said, that after what had inconsiderable proportion fallen from the pre - i • the period many of the great lines con • ceding speaker, he wouldconnecting agree not to press his mot' because during north were in the EXPENSE OF ENGLISH RAILWAYS. ion* the metropolis with the course of construe- Lord G. BENTINCK, in rising to make tion. Therefore he concluded that a considerable portion of the t motions of which he had given notice expressed his regret the outlay must have been occasioned when there was a that - at the Right Hon. Member should think that he was wanting in chancy in the revenue. There was a return sent to Parliament him in calling the attention of the House to tili c s ourtesy to in 1839, in which it was stated that the aggregate sums the But when, on a former occasion, the su bj e ct of Irish rail- different railways were empowered to raise, amounted to ways was under consideration, the late Chancellor of the 57,700,000 ; that was two years after the commencement of Exchequer had made the extraordinary statement be did as to the deficiency, and it was verydriatueral oft suppose that a consi the expense of English railways, he (Lord G. Bentinck) derable portion of the expen itur that sure fell within • he had adverted. thought it necessary he should set himself right on the the period to wh i ch But there was which he question. The extraordinary statement which the ex-Chan- other evidence to ha s the Noblecould refer to for cellor of the Exchequer had made was, that seven of the support, and in which per p Lord could be dis country before principal lines of railway in this the year 1840 Posed to place some degree of confidence. In till year 1844, tookplace before had cost no less a sum than 37,729,0a0!. This had induced when an examination k) to make an inquiry into the subject , him (Lord G. Bentinc n railways Mr. Laing was asked what had been the whole and the following was the result to which he had arrived. of amount laid out in Cie construction ra ilways UP to that Gentleman stated that the London d time, and the reply was 64,000,000/. Now if tits} The Right Honourable Y deducted cost no an from that ore 1840 had less a rom • sum the cost of railways that west completed Birmingham Railway before stern than 8,250,000/. ; would they think previous to 1837, of which they had no distinct a! count, but what when he told them would arrive at the exact amount expended between 1837 of this surprising statement, ofthe returns furnished and 1844, which he was sure would ge fully to that if they looked in page 475 astif the statement that he had that House they would find the sum expended was only J. Y . made, namely, enacted for this company, that co-existent with the deficiency in tot revenue, 5,994,536'. ; and of the ten Bills 1849•—( Hear, hear.) The Grand expenditure in railway there was a large . speculeions. He but six were passed before • 000/ before 1840, trusted he had now satisfied the Noble Lordthe House Junction was stated to have cost 4,638, • that he had committed no error in and whereas he found there had been expended but 1,921,496/. in his statessents; and efore 1840, conclusion, he had only to thank the House The Great Western was stated to have spent b- for tie attention he found was only with which they had listened to him, and to refer them for the 8,282,000/.; the expenditure, however, 4 508 160 , Railway was re"resenti L , .. The Brighton e .d tn have real statement he did make to the ordinary chan by • nelt which 1 information of the debates which took vas I 166 540 . place in that }louse were cost 2,867,000!. ; the real expense % t , conveyed to the public. T' - e have cost before ' S"-' l '• Western was represented to Mr. DISRAELI rose to make 1840, 2,600,000/. ; the sum, however, though somewhat under \ . a few observations to the House for the purpose of substantiating the .t to that, was 2,053,3601 But the test departure kern the , greatest . A mints of his None Friend the 111 ember for Lynn. It was quite a mistake to suppose that his Noble Friend was ct all irritated in bring ing forward his motion. That, however, was not the point before the House. It might be very well for the Hon. Member to talk to the House, and tell them that he knew the difference between addressing a vulgar and uneducated assembly and one like that which he was then addressing, an I skip over all the details of his arguments. The question was were opinions to go forth to the world upon a subject which at present interested the public mind to a very great extent, and was public enter prise to be affected by mere declamation in that House ? The Hon. Gentleman had said that a large expenditure in railways did not necessarily benefit the revenue. Mr. GOULBURN—No, no. Mr. DISRAELI—What, then, was the course of argument pursued by the Hon. Gentleman ? His Noble Friend ( Lord G. Bentinck) and those who acted with him, had certainly been endeavouring to impress upon the country the idea that an ex penditure of money in tha construction of railways was a benefit to the country; if the Hon. Gentleman was not at tempting to make out the converse of that proposition, a great portion of the time occupied in the debate could have been spared, and he might, at least, have been induced to occupy neutral ground. He certainly understood the Honourable Member to say, that it was a mistake to suppose that a great expenditure in railway enterprise had a necessary tendency to increase the revenue of the country, because they had had a great expenditure of money upon railways, and that, too, in a year of greet deficiency. if that was not his argument, what was it ? His argument cer tainly was, that they had a great deficiency in the revenue, as similating with a great expenditure in railways, and therefore a great expenditure in railways did not at all tend to increase the revenue of the country. The lion. Gentleman bad, how ever, just stated, that when he referred on a former occasion to the expenditure upon seven of the lines of railways which he then named, he did not refer to it in order to show the amount expendedibut the amount about to be expended. What, then, became of the other portion of the Hon. Mem ber's argument? If he meant anything at all, he meant to show that Hon. Gentlemen on his aide of the House were all for railways; hut he (Mr. Goulburn) could show that the ex penditure upon railways would not advance the revenue of the country, for in the year 1840 there was a deficiency of 2,500,000/., and they had, at the same time, a proposition to spend 47,000,0001. ; therefore the House might see that a de ficiency of 2,500,0001. was of more power than the proposed expenditure of 47,000,000/. Suppose, for instance, that the proposed expenditure had been an amount equal to that of the national debt, tfie Honourable Member might then have got up and said there was a great deficiency but he would undertake to show them what they expended in public works would not produce any benefit to the revenue, because there was a proposed expenditure of 800,000,0001., and they still had an increased deficiency. And when, there fore, the Honourable Member said that the amount of capital he referred to was not raised, but proposed to be raised, what became of his arguments? He thought that was the real state of the case. He certainly thought that it would be better to have had the speech of the Honourable Gentleman answered at once in the Committee. The opinion expressed by the Hon. Gentleman was an opinion of great weight, and coming from so great an authority had had great weight with persona out of doors. The state ment made by Mr. Laing, and alluded to by the Hon. Member, was a statement of an expenditure of 60,000,0001., which commenced in 1822, and actually included in it the Manchester and Liverpool Railways. He thought he had then made the case perfectly clear to the House. Mr. CARDWELL wished to address a few remarks upon parts relating to the question. The first point was, were the statements made by the Hon. Member for the University of Cambridge perfectly and literally true in point of fact. The second point was, were the arguments which his Hon. Friend intended to base upon those statements perfectly true and fair? The Hon. Member then went on to recapitulate the statements made in the speech of his Hon. Friend on the occasion referred to by the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn, and contended that they were strictly and literally borne out by the facts of the case. It was quite unfair to suppose that his Hon. Friend should undervalue the benefits of railway communication. He should, indeed, think that his Hon. Friend would be unworthy to occupy the high position he held in that House if he entertained such opinions. Mr. HUDSON wished to say a few words with respect to the statements of the Right lion. Gentleman the ex-Chanceller of the Exchequer. He was not in the House at the time, but the impression made upon the Noble Lord and others, by the statements of that Right Hon. Gentleman, was the one he had mentioned. He stated the amount of money raised in 1841. He stated also that the London and Birmingham was empowered to raise 8,226,000/. up to 1841, but they had only power to raise 500,003!. ( Hear, hear.) The same obser vation would apply to other railways. Some Hon. Gentlemen seemed to think that the introduction of free trade measures had created all the property of the country. He did not believe any thing of the kind but that it arose from the energy of the capi talists of the country. The London and Birmingham was com menced in 1833, and was opened to the public in 1839 ; bet the capital which the preprietors were empowered to raise, was raised and expended before 1838. The same observation ap plied with equal truth to the Midland and Northern Companies, which expended large sums of money before the deficiency re ferred to took place. The Hon. Gentleman the Memb-r for Cambridge (Mr. Goulburn) had not always acted consistently with respect to railways. The motion was then agreed to. " THE BLACK CAT." SALE OF FEE-SIMPLE ESTATES IN THE COUNTY OF KERRY. On Thursday last Mr. W. W. Simpson, of London, of f ered for sale by auction, in several lots, at the Commercial Buildings here, valuable freehold estates, situate in the county of Kerry. At one o'clock the sale was opened by the particulars and conditions being read, when Mr. Simpson said—Gentlemen, there are observations which I request to make, and probably I may say more than you may deem expedient, because so many of the gentlemen present are intimately acquainted with the locality of the property which I have the honour to offer to you for competi tion this day. You are also conversant with the condition of Ireland in general, as well as the prospective indications touching the well-being of this country; if, therefore, I trespass on your endurance, my apology must rest on that of duty towards my employer, which may engender a zeal beyond knowledge. My sincere desire is to avoid misrepresentation, not alone for my own sake, but also for that of the gentleman for whom I have this time the honour to act. On these occasions the auctioneer is vir. tually bound by certain limits, at the same time he has a certain license for bringing the subject treated of before the " mind's eye," through the intervention of that varnish which , will throw its best points into relief without altering the pic ture, For the last thirteen years 1 have had the honour, at short intervals, of addressing myself to Irish proprietors and capitalists; and I trust that those gentlemen who have , known and heard me during that period will do me the jus- I tice to say, that if I have been guilty of sins they have been venial, and partaking more of those of omission than of commission. 1 will first, gentlemen, touch on the circum cumstatice of a Bill recently passed in Parliameat, relating to free trade in corn, and in doing sa will take the liberty to read a small portion of a speech made by ins to a very , large assemblage of gentlemen and highly influeutial per sons (the majority of whom were Protectionists), at Nor wich, in the month of April last. On that occasion I said, that," although I had been a thorough-going Protectionist, I was proud to say that sliding and all other scales had now fallen from my eyes," and that it was my honest convic tions that rents which have been fixed on fair and liberal principles within the last seven years will be permanent; also, that the years' purchase on such rentals has risen within the last six months, and is all probability will continue to rise; the increase of population (viz. 1,000 per day) will, no doubt, form a counterpoise for any importation, present or prospective, and thereby insure in ordinary seasons, not excessive, but steady and remunerating prices for the cultivator, as well as ample revenue to the landed proprietor; and the assumed addition of sixty millions annually to the actual wealth of the country, will contribute to a higher years' purchase on the sale of land—the only property, indeed, which can be considered essentially permanent under adverse circumstances and political events. Instead, therefore, of the motto--" Agitate, agitate," it will be better policy to substitute that of—" Cultivate, cultivate." And let landlords assist improving tenants by making advances of that additional capital which may be required, in the nature of drainage and other improvements, charging for the same at the rate of 5 per cent. on such outlay and expenditure which may be judiciously applied. Hence the tenant farmer will reap a benefit in many instances of 25 per cent., and a permanent improvement in rental, quasi landlord, will super vene." I further observed that, "in adopting free-trade measures, Sir Robert Peel bad proved himself to be one of the most talented, fore-sighted, and fearlessly honest minis ters that ever lived in the tide of times." The present aspect of the United Kingdom fully justifies the opinion here ex pressed of the eminent talents and courage displayed by Sir Robert Peel; and it is stated by the most competent judges that if his wise measures of free- trade had not been carried out, the prices of corn and produce would have risen to a famine height. In conclusion, I said, I cannot refrain from alluding to the opinion of that eminent man, the late Sir Charles Wetherell, on this subject. A high Tory and firm Protectionist, the fears he entertained as to the probable re sults of the repeal of the corn-laws induced him to determine on selling all his landed property; but his better judgment prevailed, and he not only retained possession of it, but was in the course of making further investments when he met his lamented fate. The Protectionists—where are they? Where are now your prophets which prophecied unto you? Gen tlemen, you must remember I made these observations in April last, and up to the present time I have been fully borne out in my predictions. The Government are now in good earnest, and we shall see the small farmer of this country rising in the grade of society. It is not because that in this country we now see a peasantry poor, and clad in mean habiliments—it is not, I say, because of this that we cannot perceive that foundation of intellect on which a noble superstructure may be raised. Hath not Shakspere said— " For 'tis the mind that makes the body rich ; And as the sun breaks through the darkest clouds, So honour peereth in the meanest habit. What ! is the jay more precious than the lark Because his feathers are more beautiful? Or is the adder better than the eel Because his painted skin contents the eye ?" Yes, Gentlemen, the hands of Government are on the plough, and they must not look back, for whether it be a Govern. ment or an individual doing so, the penalty of unworthiness must attach. The Government is now moving on with a projectile force; and I tell you, Gentlemen, with such a pa ternal Government, this country, at no distant time, will rise to that high scale which is her natural position amongst the kingdoms of the earth. With respect to the ten millions proposed by Lord John Russell to be lent to this country at 3i, per cent.—it has been mooted that should Government make these advances they will take precedence of the en cumbrancers, and that the present mortgagees would be placed in a false position. This mode of reasoning appears to me the height of folly ; for I opine the loans contem plated by Government, instead of weakening the se curity of present incumbraucers, will place them in a much more secure position, for the value of the estates will be increased in an inverse ratio. God Al mighty, in his infinite and inscrutable wisdom, pours afflic tive dispensations on the earth; and I will venture to read some former observations I made on this subject. I said, " that the All-wise and Omnipotent Disposer of human events has visited that country (Ireland) with the potato scourge, i for the purpose of stimulating the Government and landed proprietary to form plans and make such advances of money as will immediately tend to production and reproduction, and thus at once improve the condition of millions of the Irish poor peasantry and tenantry generally ; and by fur nishing that ' seed to the sower' which will give ' bread to the eater'—superseding the cultivation, and feeding solely on a vegetable yielding twenty-five per cent. only of food nutri tious to the human frame—they will thus be enabled to grow and consume cnrn crops in all their variety—produce which, under a fair course of husbandry, does not, like the potato, exhaust the natural power of the land ; and, at the same time, the feeding and foddering, the straw of their crops will give an incalculable quantity of manure, whereas the potato plant will afford comparatively little." In con clusion, gentlemen, I will venture to repeat a few more lines from Shakspea i re, as applicable to the position of the govern ment and lauded proprietary of Ireland : " Come—l have learn 'd that fearful commenting Is leaden servitor to dull delay ; Delay leads impotent and snail-paced beggary : Then, fiery expedition be my wing, Jove's Mercury, and herald for a king !" Mr. EDWAILD DAY SToxEs observed that the present par ticular of sale was the fairest and best he had ever seen pill:- lished is Ireland. Mr. Simrsosi—l am much obliged to you, Sir. I consider it a great compliment coming from a gentleman of so high a character, and one so intimately acquainted with the nature and circumstances'of the estates. Sonic very spiriied competition then ensued, when the fol lowing gentlemen were declared purchasers of the several lots which were sold : John Hickson, Esq., Deputy-Lieuteuant, The Grave, Dingle. John Leahy, Esq., South Hill, Killarney. The Rev. A. B. Rowan, Belmont, Tralee. E. B. Hartopp, Esq., Dalby House, Melton Mowbray, Lei cestershire. James Butler, Esq., Deputy-Lieutenant, Waterville, Cahir civeen. Mr. MUNTZ gave notice that he would postpone his motion relative to the detention of the schooner "Black Cat" until Friday next, when he would bring it on in Committee of Supply. The reports of the Committees on Ways and Means and of Supply were then brought up and received. CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL. . The Consolidated Fund 8,000,000/. Bill then went through Committee. The [louse adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY BUSINESS. - - - (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) TUZISDAY, MARCII 2. The following Railway Bills were presented, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time : Edinburgh and Bathgate (Deviation and Amendment)— " to enable the Edinburgh and Bathgate Railway Company to extend their Barracks Branch, to deviate a portion of their main line, and for other purposes." Edinburgh and Glasgow—" to authorise the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway Company to hold Stock in or to pur chase or lease the Edinburgh and Bathgate, the Stirling and Dunfermline, and the Glasgow, Airdrie, and Monklands Junction Railways, and for other purposes." Edinburgh and Perth—" for making a Railway from North Queensferry, by Inverkeithing and Kinross to the Scottish Central Railway at Moncrietr Hill, with Branches; to be called • The Edinburgh and Perth Railway.' " ' Wexford and Valencia (Killarney to Valencia)—" for making a Railway from the town of Killarney, in the county of Kerry, to the Harbour of Valencia, in the same county, to be called ' The Wexford and Valencia Railway.' " Great Northern (Deviations between Peterborough, Boston, and Gainsborough)—" to enable the Great Northern Rail• way Company to make certain alterations in the Line of their Railway, as already authorised between Peterborough, Boston, and Gainsborough." Great Northern (Deviations near Doncaster)—" to enable the Great Northern Railway Company to divert the Line of their Railway, as already authorised between Gainsborough and Doncaster." Great Southern and Western Extension (Portarlington to Tullamore)--" to enable the Great Southern and Western Railway Company to make a Railway from Portarlington to Tuilamore." The following Railway Bills were read a second time, com tnitted, and referred to the Committee of Selection : Dublin and Drogheda (Purchase of Navan Branch, &c.) Great Western (Amendments and Extensions). Newmarket and Chesterford. Cork and Bandon. Cork, Blackrock, and Passage. 'The undarnamed Bills were presented, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time : Inverness Municipal and Police, Sec.--" for extending the Municipal Boundaries of the burgh of Inverness; establish ing a general system of Police therein ; lighting and cleans ing the Streets; improving and maintaining, and, if neces sary, rebuilding the Bridges over the river Ness, and making Accesses thereto; providing Public Markets and Bleaching Greens; regulating the Bridge Tolls, Petty and Market Customs, and for other purposes relating to the said Burgh." Inverness Harbour and Navigation Improvement—" for deepening, enlarging, improving, and maintaining the Port and Harbour of Inverness, and the Navigation of the river Ness, and the Quays and Piers and other Works connected therewith ; for regulating the Anchorage and Shore Dues of the said Port and Harbour, and for other purposes relating thereto." The average rate cf purchase was twenty.seven years ; none of the lots (whereof several appeared to be let at their full value) fetching less than twenty-three years' purchase. The sales being concluded, Mr. SIMFCON returned thanks for the kindness and ur banity he had met with, and, in doing so, took occasion to state that he had been requested by several noblemen and gentlemen to issue a third edition of his pamphlet, " A De fence of the Landlords of Ireland," which had run through two editions since 1844; and in the forthcoming one it was his intention to add a postscript, explanatory of his views as to that which the Government were called upon to do, in order to develope the resources of the country.—Dublin Eventng racket of Tuesday, Feb. 23. COURT CIRCULAR. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent visited the Queen yesterday. Her Majesty, accompanied by the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, and the Princess Alice, walked yesterday in the Gar dens of Buckingham Palace. His Royal Highness Prince Albert presided, yesterday afternoon, at a meeting of the Commissioners for Promoting and Encouraging the Fine Arts, in tke rebuilding the Palace of Westminster. His Royal Highness arrived at Gwydyr House, Whitehall, shortly before three o'clock, attended by his Equerry in Waiting, Colonel Bouverie. The Commissioners present were the Marquis of Lansdowne. Lord John 12unaell, murpetn, Lord Ashburton, Lord Colborne, the Right Hon. the Speaker, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Benjamin Hawes, Mr. Henry Hallam, Mr. G. Vivian, and Mr. T. Wyse. The Secretary, Mr. Eastlake, was in attendance. NOTICES GIVEN AT THE PRIVATE BILL-OFFICE. 'The following Railway Bill is appointed to be read a second time:— MONDAY, MAISCII 8. Colchester, Stour Valley, Sudbury, and Halstead (Lease to the Ipswich and Bury St. Edmund's Railway Company). PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. From the Votes and Proceedings if the House of Commoru. TUESDAY, MARCH 2. CIIURCRES (SCOTLAND). • Motion made, and Question put, " That r Select com mittee be appointed to inquire whether, and in what part of Scotland, and under what circumstances, large numbers of her Majesty's subjects have been deprived of the means of religious worship by the refusal of certain proprietors to grant them sites for the erection of Churches. ' The House At four o'clock Prince Albert and the other Commissioners proceeded to the Palace at Westminster, and went over the New Houses of Parliament, attended by the architect, Mr. Barry. . . . MAJORITY-AYES, 89. Aldam, William Evans, William O'Brien, C. Arundel, Earl of Fielden, John O'Connell, D., jun. Baine, Walter Forster, Mathew O'Connell, M. J. Bannerman, A. Fox, C. It. O'Connell,:John Barclay, David Gibson, Thomas M. Oswald, Alexander Baring, F. T. Gore, Robert I'almerston, Viscount Barnard, E. G. Grey, Sir G. Parker, John Vernal, Ralph Ilall, Sir Benjamin Plumptre, J. P. Blake, M. J. Ilastie, Archibald Plumridge, Captain trotherton, Joseph Hawes, Benj. Rice, E. R. Brown, W. Ilay, Sir A. L. Russell, Lord J. Browne, W. Ilinclley, C. ItutherfurdlA. Brownrigg, J. S. Hobliouse, Sir J. Smith, J. A. Buller, Charles Iloward, C. W.G. Somerville, Sir W. Buller, Edward Howard, P. 11. Stansfleld, W. It. C. Chaplin, W. J. Humphery, Ald. Stanton, W. 11. Christie, W. D. Hutt, William Stuart, Lord J. Clay, Sir W. James, William Stuart, V. Colebrooka, Sir T. Labouchere, Henry Stride, Edward Collett, John Larnbton, 11. Tancred, 11. W. Craig, W. G. Macaulay, T. B. Thornely, T. Dennistoun, J. M'Clintock, W. B. Trelawny, J. S. D'Eyncourt, C. T. M`Taggart, Sir J. Tufnell, 11. Dickinson, F. E. Mangles, R. D. Villiers, Charles Duff, James Maule, Fox Ward, 11. G. Duncan, George Mitchell, T. A. Wawn, J. T. Pundits, F. M o nahan, J. H. Yorke, Henry R. Dundas, David Morpeth, Viscount Morison, General TELLERS. Ellice, Edward Ellice, E., jun. Mure, Colonel Bouverie, E. P. Escott, Bickhaat Napier, Sir Charles Ewart, William Her Majesty and Prince Albert inspected at Buckingham Palace, two medals of Lord Ilardinge, the work of Mr. G. G. Adams. The Queen had a dinner party yesterday. The company included her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, his Serene Highness Prince Frederick of Hesse, their Excellen cies Baron and Baroness de Cetto, his Excellency Baron de Hugel, the Marquis and Marchioness of Lansdowne, Lady Augusta Cadogan, Lady Fanny Howard, Baroness de Spetli, the Earl Auckland, and the Hon. Miss Eden, Lord and Lady Ashley, Lord Ernest Bruce, the Right Hon. Sir Robert and Lady Peel, and Mr. Edmond Mildmay. The band of the Coldstream Guards attended at Bucking ham Palace during dinner, and performed the following pieces : Overture, " Leonora," Beethoven. American Polka, Jullien. Selection from " The Crusaders," Benedict. Waltz, " Fleur de Marie," Barret. Pas Redouble, "Le Roi des Mere," Gurtner. Their Royal Highnesses the Duchess of Cambridge and the Princess Mary, and his Serene highness Prince Frede rick of Hesse, attended by Baroness Hammerstein and Mr. Edmond Mildmay, visited and inspected the British Mu seum yesterday. A deputation of gentlemen from the centre of the county of Kent had an interview with the Right Hon. C. Strutt yesterday, at the office of the Commissioners of Railways, in Great George-street. The deputation consisted of the Earl Stanhope, the Right Hon. F. C. Herries, 'Sir John W. Lub bock, Mr. John Rogers, and Mr. J. P. Atkins. The Bishop of Barbadoes had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday, at the Colonial-office. Several members of the " Short Time" Committee from Manchester attended yesterday at the Treasury, to deliver a number of petitions to Lord John Russell. The Earl of Devon had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday, at the Home-office. Sir Robert Ferguson had an interview yesterday with the Right Hon. Edward Strutt, at the office of the Commissioners of Railways. Dispatches were seat off last evening from the Colonial. office for the Governor of Ceylon. MINORITY-NOES, 61. Acland, T. D. Du Pre, C. G. Mundy, E. M. Ainsworth, Peter Fellowes, E. Munta, G. F. Antrobus, Edmund Finch, G. Newdegate, N. Arkwright.l 9 . Fuller, A. E. O'Brien, A. Stafford Austen, Colonel Godson, R. Polhill, Frederick Bailite, W. Goulburn, Henry Rashleigh, W. Bankes, George Graham, Sir James Sandon, Viscount Barrington, Viscount Halsey, T. P. Scott, Robert Beckett, W. Hamilton, W. J. Scott, Francis Bentinck, Lord G. Herbert, Sydney Spooner, Richard Berestord, Major Illidyard, T. B. Sheppard, T. Bowles. Admiral Hinds, J. 11. Stanley, E. Broadley, Henry Hodgson, R. Taylor, E. Campbell, Sir 11. Hope, Sir J. TollemachThompson, A J. lderman C ar dwell, Edward Hudson, G. e, Clerk Sir G. Jermyn, Earl Vyse, R. 11. R. H. Clive, Vise. Lawson, Andrew Walsh, Sir J. B. Cripps, William M'Neill, Duncan Wodehouse, E. Disraeli, B. March, Earl of TELLEES. Douglas, Sir C. E. Marsland, Henry Wortley, J. S. Duckworth, Sir J. Martin, C. W. Inglis, Sir R. SIR W. COTTON.—That gallant and popular officer Lieut.-General Sir Willoughby Cotton, left London yester day morning, with his Aide. de camp, Lord Adolphus Vane, to embark for India for the fourth time, and to assume tho office of Commander-in-Chi e f at Bombay. He carries with him the universal good wishes of the profusion to which he belongs. FLOODS IN PARIS. —Notwithstanding the fine weather and the absence of rain in Paris, the waters of the Seine still maintain their height at 5 metres 60 centitUtres. TUESDAY NIGHT'S GAZETT. .....y, At the Court at Buckingham Palace, the 27th day of F.-•/ - s Ty N bruary, 1847, present the Queen's most excellent Majesty i ' --- Council, her Majesty having been pleased to appoint th , • (a...,/.;<:`> --------"--77 7 - --- n - r- -E:. 1 .. :1.-'. Right Hon. Henry Earl Grey to be Lord Lieutenant aro 4„, , ‘.,:-/ ~1.7 -"-- '•,' - Custos Rotulorum of the cuanty of Northumberland, hit '.:= l ,:r! =:;1 . ,..1_,, Lordship this day took the oaths appointed to be taker. : ,i'• -i: -. 1,5,,. iAr'. - : : ::. -,- .i , thereupon, instead of the oaths of allegiance and supremaqr.. 2 - 7 , ' V>::-,*(tA' q 7 . ', FOREIGN-OFFICE, .MAucir 1, 1847. • _,,..„)-- 1 ,, .4- 1 ' '4 7 ' The Queen has been pleased to approve of M. Eugene Be7ro, 5.... " ' i ,-..--, 17:47'. as Consul at Newcastle for his Ma j est y the Kin g of ibla - . , _ French. eacilrgiShl3) WAR-OFFICE, MAECH 2. Ist Dragoon Guards—Banker Tomlin, Gent , to be Cornet. by purchase, vice Brice, who retires, Atarch 2. 7th Dragoon Guards—Cornet John Thomas Cramer to be. Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Riddell, who retires; William, Stuckey Wood, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Cramer, March 2. 14th Light Dragoons—Cornet and Adjutant Richard Prety. man Apthorp to have the rank of Lieutenant, Feb. 18; Cornet Robert Townley Woodman to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Barrett, deceased, Feb. 19 ; Aug ustus John Cureton, Gent. to be Cornet, withorlt purchase, vice Wood• men ; Surgeon Archibald Stewart, 1.-ont the 61st Foot, to be Surgeon, vice Smyth, appointed to tine 87th Foot, March 2. 4th Foot—Ensign Jilin, Richard Levett to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Chetwode, appointed to the Bth Light Dra gouns ; Ensign Edward Mulso Pun is, from the 74th Foot,to be Ensign, vice Lovett. March 2. 12th Foot—Ensign Edward Foster W be Adjutant, with the rank of Lieutenant, April 14, 1846 ' • Robert Nasmxth Irving, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, vice Foster, appt Litcd Adjutant, March 2. 14th Foot—Frederick Le Mesurier, Gent., to be Ensign, without purch 3:39, vice Dumas, deceased, March 2. 16th Foot—Ensign George De la Poer Boresford to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Fergusson. who re: it es ; Berkeley Craven Blackburn, Gent. to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Beresforc', March 2. 37th Foot—Lieutenant Henry B. Phipps to be Captain, by purchase, vice Parkinson, who retires; Ensign John Leversage George to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vise Phipps ; William Pollard, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice George, March 2. 42d Foot—Ensign Samuel Douglas Abercromby to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Bethune, who retires; James William Balfour, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Abercromby ; March 2. Henry Montgomery, Gent., to be Ensign by purchase, vice Cameron, appointed to the Ist cr Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards ; March 3. 5. th Foot, Captain Fitzmaurice William Colthurst, from half-pay 75th Foot, to be Captain, vice George Edwards, whe exchanges, receiving the difference. Lieutenant John Ahmuty to be Captain, by purchase, vice Colthurst, who re tires. Ensign George Armstrong to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Ahmuty. Henry Butler, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Armstrong. March 2. 61st Foot—Assistant-Surgeon P. Gammie, from 80th Foot, to be Surgeon, vice Stewart, appointed to the 14th Light. Dragoon', March 2. 74th Foot—P. S. Crawley, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Purvis, appointed to 4th Foot, March 2. 80th Foot—Henry Carr Lucas, Gent., to be Assistant- Surgeon, vice Gammie. promoted in the 61st Foot, March 2. 84th Foot—Ensign Charles Pringle Beague to be Lieute nant, by purchase, vice Bentinck, promoted in Cape Mounted Riflemen ; Ensign Frederick John Gothleipe Saunders, from 56th Foot, to be Ensign, vice Beague, March 2. 87th Foot.—Surgeon Robert Dunkin Smyth, from 14th. Liirht Dragoons, to be Surgeon, vice Richard Arthur Pear son, M.D., who retires upon hall pay, March 2. Ceylon Rifle Regiment.—Lieutenant Robert Watson to be Captain, without purchase, March 2. Cape Mounted Riflemen—Lieutenant Arthur Cavendish Bentinck, from 84th Foot, to be Captain, by purchase, vice G. E. Cannon, who retires, March 2. BREVET. Captain Fitzmaurice William Colthurst, of 57th Foot, to be Major in the army, Nov. 9, 1846. HOSPITAL STAFF—James M'Nab, M.D., to be Assistant- Surgeon to the Forces, vice Simeon Hendy Hardy, M.D., v. ho retires upon half. pay, March 2. MEMORANDUM—The commission of Captain Kenneth Murchison, of 29th Foot, has been antedated to Dec. 22, 1845 OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, FEE. 27. Royal Regiment of Artillery—Sergeant• Major William Elliott to be Quartermaster, Feb. 8. Corps of Royal Engineers—Second Captain Henry Drury Harness to be Captain ; Second Captain Edmund Twiss Ford to be Captain, vice Wortham, placed on the Seconded List; First Lieutenant Phipps John Hornby to be Second Captain, vice Ford; Second Lieutenant James Thomas Burke to be First Lieutenant, vice Hornby; Second Lieutenant Francis Edward Cox to be First Lieutenant, vice Galton, placed on the Seconded List, Feb. 20, 1847. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Staffordshire. Queen's Oµ•n Royal Regiment of Staffordshire Yeomanry Cavalry—William Francis Bridgeman, Gent., to be Cor net, vice Briscoe, promoted, Feb. 20. BANKRIJPI S. Thomas Lawrance, draper, Reading, Berkshire, March 13, at half-past twelve, and April 24, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee, Alderman bury ; Reed and Longford, Friday-street, Cheapside. John Brown, carver and gilder, Great Queen-street, Lin coln's ha-fields, March 24, at half-past eleven, and April 24, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Follett, official assignee, Sambrook-court, Basinghall-street ; Shaw, Furni val's Inn. Thomas Bowles, victualler, Horsmonden, Kent, March 11, at half-past one, and April 16, at two, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Sten ning, Long-lane, Bermondsey ; Steuning and Camel!, Tun bridge, Kent. _ Francis Champness, linendraper, Bishop's-road, Pad dington, March 11, at half-past twelve, and April 16, at half past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin•lane, Cornhill ; Randall, Castle-street, Holborn. _ _ _ Edmund Strevens, victualler, Brighton, March 11, at one, and April 16, at half-past one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. 11 hitmore, official assignee, Buinghall-street ; Rosser, Taut plin, and Co., Fenchurch• street ; Dempster, Brighton. Michael John Stone, grocer, Abingdon, Berkshire, March S. at one, and April 12, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee, Coleman-street, City; Waller, Jun., Finsbury-circus. John Andrew, wood engraver, Grove-terrace, Queen's road, Bayswater, March 9, at half-past twelve, and April 12, at half-past eleven, atthe Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand , official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers, City; Webber, Caro line-street, Bedford-square. John Keddy and Thomas Keddy, bookseller, Bridlington, Yorkshire, March 10 and 31, at ten, at the Town-hall, Hull, Kvnaston, Hull ; Hicks, Gray's Inn, London ; Bell, Hull. - Nathaniel John Earle, grocer, Falmouth, March 16, at eleven, and April 8, at one, at the Exeter District Court. Hirtzel, official assignee, Exeter; Bullmore, Falmouth ; Coode and Co., Bedford-row, London. William James, builder, Stone, Gloucestershire, March 16 and April 13, at a quarter-past one, at the Bristol District Court. Mutton, official assignee, Bristol; Badham, Gray's Inn, London ; Chandler and Co , Tewkesbury. David Williams, cattle salesman, Ruthin, Denbighshire, March 16 and April 9, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court. Turner, official assignee, Bristol ; Poeock, Bar tholomew-close, London ; Smart, Ruthin ; Evans and Sou, Liverpoo'. William Herbert, tea dealer, Bristol, March 15, at twelve, and April 13, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; Davison, Bloomsbury-squatc, London ; Britian, Bristol. Solomon Marks, clock maker, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, March 16 and April 16, at one, at the Bristol District Court. Hutton, official assignee, Bristol ; Phillpotts, Cardiff. Jackson Prince, grocer, Coxhoe, Durham, March 11, at half-past ten, and April 15, at one, at the Newcastle-upon- Tyne District Court. Baker, cfficial assignee, Newcastle upon- Tyne ; Marshall, Durham; Smith, Durham; Rogerson, Lincoln's Inn-fields, London. William Beresford, lace manufacturer, New Lent on, Not tinghamshire, March 12 and April 16, at ten, at the Sheffield District Court. Freeman, official assignee, Leeds; Patchett, Nottingham, Binney, Sheffield. Joseph Hepworth, wine merchant, Huddersfield, March 19 and April 9, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Kyrie::- ton, official assignee, Leeds; Wiglesworth, Ridsdale, and Craddock, Gray's Inn-square, London; Cronhelm, Leeds. - DIVIDENDS DECLARED. S. Wileke, miliner ' Fore-street, Cripplegate—first div. of 6s. in the pound, on Monday, March 8, and two following Mondays, at the office of Mr. Cannan, Birchin-lane, City. W. Hounsfield, commission merchant, Manchester—second div. of 7d. in the pound, and a first and second div. of 2s. sd. in the pound on new proofs, on Tuesday, March 23, or any subsequent Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Fraser, Manchester. J. knight, mercer, Preston—a first div. of Is. 9d. in the pound, on Tuesday, March 16, or any subsequent Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Fraser, Manchester. W. W. Salford, builder, Stockport—first div. of Is. 7i(l. in the pound, on Tuesday, March 16, or any subsequent Tuesday, at the office of -dr. Fraser, Manchester. J. Evans, ironmonger, Liverpool—second div. of I%d. in the pound, on any Ilonday, at the office of Mr. Bird, Liverpool. D. MacDougall, merchant, Liverpool—second div. of 3 1 / 2 d in the pound, on any Monday, at the office of Mr. Bird, Liverpool. J. Richardson, merchant, Liverpool—fourth div. of a ld. and 3- 16ths of a penny in the pound, on any Monday, at the office of Mr. Bird, Liverpool. J. Massey, engineer, Etruria, Staffordshire—first div. of 3s. in the pound, on any Thursday, at the office of Mr. Valpy, Birmingham. W. Griffiths, draper, Great Malvern, Worcestershire — second div. of o, l l d. in the pound, on any Thursday, at the office of Mr. Valpy, Birmingham. 1). Antrobus, apothecary, Audley, Staffordshire —first div of in the pound, on any Thursday, at the office of Mr. Valpy, Birmingham. W.J.Dunsford, surgeon, Bristol—first div. of Ps. in tha pound, on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Acraman, Bristol. J. Marshall, merchant, Birchin-lane, City—fourth div. of IF. in the pound, on Wednesday, March 3, and two following Wednesdays, at the office of Mr. Turquand, Old Jewry, City. W. 11. Ilounsfield, draper, Cardiff—first div. of 2s. 10d. in the pound on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Acraman, Bristol. W. Cameron, confectioner, Newcastle -upon-Tyne—first div. of 2s. Pd. in the pound, on any Saturday, at the office of Mr. Baker, .Newcastle-upon-Tyne. W. Pannell, grocer, High-street, Poplar—first div. of Is. 10 1 / 2 d. in the pound, on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Whitmore, Basinghall-street (Dividends, &c., in our next.) 411 s. T t h re u s rs s d ed ay Irish uc at e i c il 15,3c700t1c..h the having h been defrayed by Mr. Lumley. w hole of the expenses orThe Majesty's ben fi tj h o e r a t t !l e e early it is in the season, that even When it is considered ho e now it is a w n e n e d khb,ewfod r eserted places of public amusement howw the ordinary period at which th e o pera opens, are as yet by the highest class of society, the result must be so nsidered as far above all rational expectation. HOCHELAGA ; OR, ENGLAND IN THE NEW WORLD. —Edited by Eliot Warburton, Esq., author of" The. Crescent and the Cross."—This work has already reached a third edi tion. We shall be surprised if it do not go through many editions. It possesses almost every qualification of a good book—grace, variety, and vigour of style— a concentrated power of description, which has all the effect of elaborate painting—information carefully collected, and judiciously communicated —sound ankl enlarged views of important ques tions—a hearty and generous love of country—and the whole pervaded by a refined but sometimes caustic humour, which imparts a constant attraction to its pages. We can cordially recommend it to our readers, as well for the amusement of its lighter portions, the vivid brilliancy of its descriptions, and the solid information it contains respecting Canada, and the position, generally, of England in the New World."—John Bull. 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