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rower orthz: Tr - eastyy as to the surcharges on Ac- comptants. Lord'4-1. PETTY ,opposed this, oti the grounds above.' mentioned," and it was reje&ed. The Bill was then read a third time, and passed. PUBLIC HARBOURS. Sir C. POLE moved the second reading of the Pub- Harbour Bill. Colonel WOOD said, - that there was a great deal of private property conneCted with this Bill if it was to extend to all the navigable rivers; and care ought to be taken that no injustice should be done. But he *onld not oppose the Bill till he saw .what. could b 4 made of it in 'a Committee. In the mean time he ask..xl, whether it was to be confined to the har-. hours of Plymouth, Portsmouth, and Slleerness, 'or to as far as he had before stated ? Sir C. POLE said, that it certainly was not to be • Confined to the King's harbours alone, but to extend also to,all harbonrs fog commercial purposes. But •it Would-not interfete in the least with private pro perty, as the object ‘lvas . .only to keep the anchorage - what it was ; •and this had been.judged necessary fraro•what had'been observed as to the embankments at Catiyater. • _ Colonel. VEREKER wished that his Hon. Friend had not Only:pioposed to prevent nuisances', but also to remove them: He hoped he would introduce a Clause to , remove the two' rocks that occasioned 6a niuOli iucoth'enic-nce at 'Limerick- harbour, which might be done lit the expense of 20001. : Mr. HUSKISSON,said that this could only be done by a Petition to the Lord HENRY PETTY was well convinced of the importance of givibg facility to the commerce of such a Port as tllzi:of Limerick. But the thing pro posed by the Hon. Colonel 'could not be done with out a grant of ,trooey in the Committee of Supply, and to introduce it•here was altogether out .of the question. , . Mr. FOSTER said, that as the Hon. Colonel had now learned what Was the proper wav to proceed M this business; he hoped he would not forget it in the next Session. The Bill was then read a secondlime, And ordered to beCoMmitted to-morrow. The Irish ,Post Roads' Bill was committed. Seve raliAmendments were proposed and adopted.—Re port to-morrol.V. PI LUTS Lord TEMPLE rose, in pursuance of his notice, to move for leave to • bring in a Bill Tor the Regtila tion of the Pilots of :he United Kingdom: This was a most important business, as the lives and pro perty of many were concerned. He did not mean to press the Bill through this His object to have it printed merely, when it ,might lie Over till next Session. • Alderman PRIiVSEP regretted that 'many- Mem bers of this Howse were absent who could have given ample testimony to the importance of , this measure. lie, however, had to thank the Noble ',Ord for he proposed to dos He left it to him to con sider whether it would not be proper to give power to the 'trinity Board, or some other competent Board,_ not only to prevent the Pilots beino- paid when they as ted improperly, but also to punish them. When :cssels were in distress, .it very often happened that they' became exorbitant in their demands ; and some , times "the opportunity of saving many a valuable Cargo, and many . valuable lives, was' lost by the avarice and obstinacy of these people. After a few words from Lord TEMPLE, leave was given. On the Motion of Lord HENRY PETTY, the Re- . ports made by certain Commissioners appointed un der an Aa of the sth of the King, relative to the Fees, in Public Offices, and other mattera, - were or dered to be printed. LORI) NELSON's ANNUITY • Lord HENRY PETTY moved, that Nelson's An nuity Bill should bt.: committed. ~ Colonel WOOD observed, that in the present State of the Country, he thought it his duty to oppose every measure which tended to create an 'unnecessary ex- pence. When he considered that between 3 and 400,0001. had already been voted fOr the addition to the pay of the Army ;' when be considered that nearly an equal sum had been voted for the Navy; and when • he considered that expence was dailyaccumulating on pkpence—he could not sit in that House and give his sandlot) to any grant of the Public Money; except where the absolute necessity was proved. He allowed that a proviilon for ,the family of Lord Nelson was a necessary thing, but he thought that 5001. per an num .was fully sufficient. If the gallant Lord had been alive, Or had left children, he would not have been averse to the most ample provision that was proposed. But this was only for al - elation, and surely 50001. year was enough, in the mean time, till the Public Debt was reduced. He suggested whether it would not be better to grant only 50001. till the'debt was reduced to million, and then a larger sum might be given. Ho then desired that the Clerk might read from the Jour ' pals the proceedings relative to thd Duke of Marlbo rough. (The proceedings of the loth and 18th Dec. 1702, weredthen read, from which it appeared that the Cc menons remonstrated with the Queen for proposing so large an annuity as 50001.) i'he Queen, continued. Col,Wood, .certainly gave him 50091, a year, but that wasionly during E.4 - 6‘Vn life, and' this WII3 for Earl Nelson and his heirs male, It was true the \alue of money was higher in the time of Queen Anne, but then it was to be considered that there was at that time scarceli any national debt, ir there was any at Qin- debt now was above 50Q millions. •Ifit4er such circumstances, be . thought 50001. per annum a., most _ample - provision,. and. fie'. Would oppose the granting of any tore till the debt was reduced, as he had above stated. The SPEAKER observed, that.the Hon. Gentle-• object could only be properly attained in the Conpnittee. He then left the Chair.. Upon the Hduse resolving info the Committee, .. Air. ROSE, in reply to the statements of the Hon. Colopel.(Wood,), observed, that the grant now propOsed bore no proportion to the allowances made' to the Duke of MarlixxioUgh. For s -independently of 50001 a-year settled upon that illustrious person; no lesi than seven Manors were granted to him by the Crown. The - Palace of Blenheim Was also bUilt, for him at the ipblic expenc'e. . Queen Winne bad this building :commenced, but the-Tory Admi nistration, towards the close of her reign, thought prpper, most unworthily; to pr#Vent its proceeding. Upon the accession, however, of George I. 4g,001.- which were found remaining due to. the, work: znen ,employed. (iring the lormer Reign, WQIC puizirant to an Ao of Kirilawelit, and 'the building was proceeded upon to its cOmPletion.r— The Right lion. Gentleman - added, that be under stood from the Executors of .Sarah, Dutchess of Marlborough, that no less than 500,0,001. were laid out from the public purse for the buildings at:Blen heim. But was\ the Hon. Colonel,, when be -made the comparison alluded to, iware of the amount of the revenue posseSsed by the Duke of Marlbordtigh, at the time the penslob was granted him ?. His Grace then had fron,the salaries and perquisites of vari ous offices no less than 40,0001. a-year. , Could it -then be -pretended that there was • any paral lel between the.. case of the Duke of Marlborough and:that of Loid Nelson—the One had an immense fortune which devOlved upon his family, while, fortunately; the other was in very different circum stances. The 'splendid services of Lord Nelson were not produ6tive to him of pecuniary profits— No; for of prize-money his receipts were insignifi-. cant. His proportidn'of prize-money even 'at the splendid battle of the. Nile was-not more than three thousand pounds, and this, from particUlat circum stances, was less than the sum which fell to the lot of, many of his Captains. Indeed, the fortune of this distinguished Hero was much less than could at all he supposed by one unacquainted with the fait. For he. could say, and it was now no breach of confidence to state it—that in the course of some communications which he had with Lord Nelson the very day -before he last sailed from 'England, the Noble Lord told him that all the pro perty he had in the world did not exceed at the,.'ut most fifteen thousand pounds, and that his debts nearly amounted to that sum. When one then considered the nature of the Noble Lord's services to this Country, which, withoUt Meaning to depre "ciate the merit of any Officer, he had no heSita tion in saying, were far greater than those of any other Ofricerthe country bad ever known, great" even as the services of the Duke of Marlborotigh were—Having that impression upon his mind, an impression indeed - which was, as it ought t(i universally prevalent, the Right Hon.r Gent. was surprised at the opposition made to a measure which . proposed to grant merely sufficient to. •suppott the rank, dignity, 'and name, of this illustrious man. The Right Honourable Gentleman repeated, that if the - Committee would compare the sums allowed to the Duke - of Marlborough with that Under con, sideration, he was sure that all objeolions must dis appear; - Mr. FRANCIS repeated his obje&ion to this proposition,' and maintained that there was this, material difference between the case of the Duke of Marlborough and 'the,preent, namely, that the Duke of Attribprough was alive, and bad children .. to inherit the public grant—while in this case the proposition was to grant 120,0001. of the public money to the collateral branthes of the Noble Earl's family. Colonel Woop and Mr. Rost mutually •ex. plained„ HILEY ADDINGTON thought it unne cessary to say any thing as to the merits of Lord Nelson, whose charaaer it would be as difficult to exult by panegyric as to depreciate by calumny.— But with respect to the measure before the Com mittee, be observed, that it conveyed a'proposition of reward . for services of an unparalelled-nature, far I short indeei:of that which was granted to the puke of Miaborough. Mr.' WILBERFORCE remarked, that if )(31001 a-year was, in the days of the Duke of IViaribo rough, deemed necessary to support' the dignity Of a Duke, Thai sum now, from thercoMparative value of money, was scarcely adequate . to uphold the rank. of aWEarl. But he viewed this grant altoge ther - not so_ much as a provision for the 'family of Lord Nelson, as a pledge of nafional liberality, held out to our Navy'to encourage an imitation of that Hero's example. Lord HENRY PETTY conceived that if any're-• ference were had to the case of the Duke of Marl ' borough. inorder to apply that case to the measure before the Committee, such. application coul,d Only serve to suggest a considerable augmentation of the proposed grant. • The expence of building Blenheim alone, it appeared, exceeded the amount of the pro . vision contained in this Bill. But independently of this expence, and .the other sums alluded to by the Right Honourable Gentleman on the other side (Mr. Rose), it vas to be recolleaed that the Family of the Duke of Marlborough still enjoyed a revenue I of .50001. froth the Post Office, which was originally' granted in consideration .of the services of that dis tinguished Officer.- Of the sum which this, Bill proposed to allow, the Noble Lord observed, that 20,0001, were to be divided between the two sisters of Lord Nelson, who were, he was sorry to, say, in rather limited circumstances, but who were the pe:- culiar ohje&s of the Hero's care and atreaion, and both of whom he bequeathed to his country.tor,,that provision which it was not in his own power to leave them, Could that Country, then, which he so • highly served, hesitate to execute his' wishes ? After the deduction of the 20,0001. it was 'intended, to apply the remainder of the,suna mentioned in the Bill to erea a Solidlnonument, Wbich should 'trans-' • mit to posterity the fame of Nelson, and the services which lie rendered, to his country. With regard to the allusions 'which bad been made to economy, he, thought: therri incpplicahle in this instappe--,*ono my,. generally speaking, should meet ,with his warmest suppor+, ; but the economy of reward 1;47 great public services, he should ev,er deprecate, par tcularly, at a period like, the present, .when it was. necessary to keep up the-tone of the public force to,, a. level with the dangers of the Country; to excite men tb emulation by the, influence of this ex ample. 'As to the remarks of the Honourable Gen tleman (Mr. Francis) ; upon the propriety of grant-: ing the proposed suns to the 'collateral branches of Lord Nelson:s .Family,,he thought the argument', had not the weight that the . Hon. Gentleman at-' tached to.it ; for . , those branches being the objeas of the Noble Lord:s . solicitude, belonging to his Family and bearing his name, were, from all those motives which stiggest a reward of this nature, fully entitled to the consideration of Parliament. There was, Perhaps„no desire that .operated more power fully upon, the minds of many Men, than the desire of founding a family; and perhaps • there was no Class of men among whom this desire fOrmed 'a gkeater stitripleo to a&1on, or n'higlier objet of ambition, than those who con posed the Otlicers of the Navy. For what, dangers .did, they encounter,. what privations did.tbe,.) , submit. to, in order to corn .• muntl.:ate otherii thok!'ineans, those comforts and eujoypents, Which they have no opportunity of en joying themselves ? This feeling, which formed Such a prominent feature in the chara6ter Of a Sea _man, it was the duty and . interest of Parliament to, cherish and to encourage—and what could serve as a greater encouragement .to it. than the example which this Bill propoSed, of Lord Nelson's merits laying the foundation of a distinguished Family . ? l~Tew Clauses . wexe. introduced,..to-vest the money in Trustees' for the purchase of an estate, and that such money should bear 'interest until such purchase was made also to enable Lord Nelson to' charge such • money or estate with provisions for his datighters also to empqwer the Trustees ,to lay out the money in Exchequer Bills or other Govern= meat securities. The House resumed and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. • . , Lord TEMPLE brought in a Bill to regulate the Pilots and Pilotage of Vessels tavig - ating the British Seas.—Read a first and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow: , . I . The Oak Baik Bill was read a second time and committed for to-morrow. The Royal Family Annuity Bill Went through a Committee, and the Report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow. Ordered, on the Motion of Sir A. WELLESLEY, that an Account 'should be laid before•the House of the Expence of printing all Papers with respea to India, excepting those which related to the Budget, distinguiShing, the time the several orders Were made, and the nature of each order, exclu sive of those presented to the House this day. INDIA BUDGET. • The House resolved into a Committee upon the India Budget.; the Debate respeding it was resumed. • Mr; C. GRANT Went into' a long And minute detail on the state.of the East India Company; he contrasted the receipt and the expenditure of the Company, and observed, that from the deficiency of 5 oo,opoj. of the last year, a very considerable sum was to be dedgled for political and military services. He concliAcled by drawing a very flatter ing pitlure of the Company's resources, and that the balance, taking all its stock of every description, . w muchas superior to every demand - on the Com pany. ! - After, a few observations from Mr. FRANCIS, 1 with respe& to Sir George Barlow, Mr. 41clerigat; P.4I.I:ArSEP rose, and went into a minute investigation of the Company's statement presented to the House he. said he' felt it his duty ' to Apprize - the Howe of the nature of. its, responsV bility for the debts of the Company ; and that no man; after reading the At of the 33d Geo.. 111. could entertain any other idea than that of dire& partnership : but however this partnership might differs in other respeets, it was clear that the profits were not equally divided ;• fur the . Proi*tOr§ were dividing 10 per cent. while the. Country was at the expellee of supporting the company: It had been frequently admitted that a responsibility :of 17 millions hung over England, and this at a most cri tical time; when the 'whole care and attention of Minister, 'were requisite fOr"defending us at home :.• yet at this moment had the Noble , Lord at the head of the Board of Controul promised to undertake the.settleMent of.this cumbrous and unwieldy con cern, this anornoliaus mixture of imperial Corn-, meree. The Hon. Member then proceeded to comment at length on the statements of the-Corn,- ' pay ; and after pointing out its incorrectness various items, he proceeded t,o notice the. small quantity of trade possessed by the Company,, which, did not e,xceed 20,000 tons': he wished this to be. contrasted with the indiVidual exertions,' of British Merchants, if unchecked by the exclusive Charter of the , Company. Here,,he asked, for what pur pose did this Country make sacrifices to preserve India, but to possess a fair and natural share of its trade ?. yet this share was both small and, con-.. temptißle, and fettered, 'in various ways. ' Yet so desirous were the Company ,of, checking the pri vate trade, that though he, could aver, as a fa& well worthy the: attention of the 'Noble Lord, that the company's faculty .Of 'borrowing of individuals was at an end, andthey were obliged' to Toad home with private goods at 291.‘ . per ton', yet they themselves incurred the expellee' Of 01. 'to' support - their fa- • vourite proje& of checking private trade. The Hon. Member next adverted' to the late Peace in India, and - expressed his appiehension that it would not be permanent.... After reminding the, House of Mr. Dundas's opirtion, that the debts of the Com pany must, ultimately fall, 011 this" Country, he con cluded by observing, that he felt it his duty to shew to the House the responsibility t.kiey were under with respe& to the Company ; that at present lie should. make no, motion, relying on the promise of the Noble Lord that an investiga tion of the. COMpany's .A.ffairs would soon. take place. . •• Lord C4S7 LERE,AG-11 'was fully aware of the difficillties under which the East India . CoMpany at Present laboured he nevertheless was very far Itom entertaining . in his mind that gloomy view es the Company:F.' Affairs which had been drawn by the worthy Aldei-Man Vlio;:had just,. sat down; on the contrary he was well convinced,. that if the Com pany's Affairs were vigorously cOndu&ed it would . . not be long, until they would reach as g reat a state of prosperity as the. most sanguine wishes of any • .friend to the interests of the Company could rea sonably entitle them to. expea. For thelaccom.- plishment of this great object he 'would recommend that the general state of the Company's Affairs shOuld undergO the most ample investi g ation before a CoMmittee. The result, he was confident, would be highly favourable to the Company. But at the • same time that he was convinced, from his InoW • ledge of the Affairs of, the, Company, that a Com mittee which had it in view to obtain a correct statement of the debts, assets, and revenue Of the -Company, must necessarily draw inferences fa vourable to the Company, as 'he had before stated, still he Most clearly saw that something was want ing for the present to be done for the assistance of the Company. To attain this . great and most de sirable °hied; he would recommend: that a' Loan shOuld be raised under.the sanEtion . of Parliament ; . not that he could by any means suppose that 'there could be any hesitation or doubt of the.solveney of the. Company, but that he'saw hoW much mo:e 'advantageously a. Loan Would be raised under such cirennistanOeS ‘thiin if the Company itself was to go lino' the Market for that ,purpose. Before Ireland 7 as united AO this Couli'try, it was the uniform practice with the English rarliament to include the Loan for Ireland in 'one general, Vote along with that- which was given for this Country. By the adoption of such a system the Company would gain what they most particularly wanted—an extension of their Capital, and the Public wou:.l have ,con siderably better security than they could now pos'-' sibly have ; as, from the profits to accrue frorasuch anextension of Capital; there would- . 17.! a - Sinking Fund for the total ,and speedy extinaion of the whole . Debt. Dr: LAWRUNCE then caught the Chairman's eye; ,and was entering into a consideration of the sub. je& when . Mr. ItoiisoN rose to order, and moved that the Hotise be-counted. The: Gallery, was- then cleared :\ we understand that only thirtp-one Members were present, conse quently an adjoUrnment took place at Twelve o'clock. • MAILS. ARRIVZD-1 Gottenburgh. r Waterford. Duz-2 Ham.- burgh, 2 Gottenbuigh, r Waterford. , PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK. - 63 I OMIIiUM - • Consols THE SUN. 6il SALMIS QUIS DICERS FALSUM AUDEAT L 0 N D 0 N, WEDNESDAY, JULY IU, 1800. THE account which was yesterday received at LLOYD'S, of the Squadron under the command of Admiral GUILLEAUMEZ and JEROME BONAPARTI4 having sailed on the 2,lst of April from'St. Salvadqr,' confirms, in every particular, the statement' which we laid before our Readers on the 3d inst. The Squadron arrived there on the 4111' ‘of April, and sailed again on the 21st. Six days 'afterwards it was seen, only 25 leagues E. N. E. from that Port. , ft is rather singular that no intelligence has since been' received of this Squadron, except a vague report, of five Sail of the Line, supposed to be French,. having been ,seen off St. Domingo, about the middle of May. We. arc,: hovever, strongly inclined to, think, from the wretched state which GUILVEAU.. MEZ'P Squadron is sta,ted to haVe been in, that be will;. endeavour to get back to Europe. ; If that be his design, there is every reason to hope that he wi4 fall in with some. of the Squadrons that are on the look out for hind. Fr was supposed that ilmiLico, the Messtmger, would haye been dispatched last night, or early this morning, to France, with, the aetermination of the Cabinet Council which was held yesterday. He had not, however, left Town when this Paper was, put to, Press, but we have no doubt that he will set out in . • the course of the day. The accounts of Mr. Fox continue to be ' very favourable. He passed a, remarkably good night, and was very wctl,l'able to see his confidential frip44, this morning. A Council of the Cabinet Ministers was yesterday held at Mr. Fox's Office,- after which.' Dispfttches, Were made up to be forwarded, to the court 4;) Vienna. Y . . esterday morning ' Ms . MAIESTY, PRINCESSES- SopnrA; and AUGUSTA, accompanied by Lady AL-. JANA CUMBERLAND, Count MUNSTER, and Colonel TAYLOR, took their usual morning ride. through. Windsor Great Park to Cumberland Lodge, , in phaeton, until 'twelve. HER MAJESTY, PRINCESSES ELIZABETH, and MARY, rode froth the Castle in her Majesty's coach and four to Winkfield Plain and back ;. the P,RIN CESSES, after - Tiding with His MAJ E STY, accompanied HER MAJESTY on horseback. Arrived on a visit to. their MAJESTIES, Lord and Lady SuuLti... .The.general rendezvous.for the Troopagoing:upou Foreign Service is to be at Portsmouth. Eight Com-. panies of the 95th Rifle Regiment have begun their ' march from OsPringe ; three marched on Monday morning for Portsmouth, and five are to embark at • Ramsgate. - The Brigade of Guards froth Chat ham march this day and to-morrow, and embark at Portsmouth. The 45th and 62d Regiments march ed Yesterday 'and to-day from Shorncliffe for Ports mouth. Their ground at Shordcliffe will be.occu pied by the 14th and 9lst, from Ashford : the.or-. • ders for the embarkation of those Regiments having, -we understand, been countermanded, a pneumonic complaint, attended with typhus, having been preva lent, of which several men of both Regiments have died. • The 14th began its march yesterday front Ashford. The . 52(1 Regithent, from Brabourne Lees, .moves in a few days for embarkation at portsmouth. Yesterday the 14th Regiment of Light Dragoons was reviewed on Hounslow Heath, by His Royal Highness the PRINCE of WALES and the. DUKE of ' YORK, to whom their Colonel, the Earl of BRIDGE.. WATER, gave a splendid dinner at Richmond.. FETE • CHAMPE'PRE.—MISS BETTESWORTH, the eldest, daughter of Mrs. JORDAN, gave a splendid rural Fete on Monday last, at Gyfford Lodge, Twick enham.- The grounds were decorated' with great taste, splendour, and beauty, but the weather was not very favourable to entertainments out•of doors. The whole of the house, but particularly the great Saloon, was adorned and illuniinated In a very, brilr liant and elegant manner. A . military Band af forded much, pleasure, and some rustic sports varied • and enlivened the scene. A magnificent Supper took place about twelve o'clock, after the Company had sufficiently amused themselves with dancing. Mrs. JORDAN presjded over the whole. ...The DUKE of CLAREN,CE was, of course, of the party, and a very large party of the fashionable circles were present. A vast crowd . of people from the neigh- bouring villages assembled round the mansion and .gardens, - and were happy speetators of this superb and beutiful scene of rural festivity.