The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-11-26 00:00:00

NOVEMBER 26, 1833. THE CONCERTS. v„Miss Johnson's farewell benefit concert at the Adelphi, on attended. Th e Il esd, ay last, was very numerously and respectably S.__ Performances went off with rgreat spirit, several of which ~7ar! honmired with an encore and none more deservedly than (G. Hargreaues,) "'He's what they ca' a bonny lad," e n ):lg by Miss Johnson. The only thing, we disliked about this h ti t t ertainment was its " farewell" character. We have ainortal arfpathy to the word, especially when it proceeds from the lips h e' Nal; lady ; but if we must s - aeak the hated word, we cannot JohnsonPaddn (0 it that our best - wishes will accompany Miss .) to whatever place she is proceeding. following evening (Thursday.) Mr. Evton gave his ._"nual conceit at the Liver Theatre which was also honoured, t_toootvithstanding the unfavouroble state of the weather, with a !:11,(1, attendance. With the exception of some indifferent tenor bass Parlor singing in s ome o f t h e g l ees, i t was a very creditable Ls;li.2 l (!rniance. • The band, consisting almost entirely of amateurs, ti erilen of upon hilharmonic Sociey, was really excel,ent, their exe satisfied us that ant orchestral amateur band t Tight easily he organised in Liverpool that would he a credit to "e town, and it almost argues a want of spirit, that we have not amg.entleinan's. concert here as well as in ) Manchester , having 7„, , :al and instrumental talent equal if not superior to theirs. ,olnith the requisite study and instruction, Miss Leach may be v, vetted into a first-rate singer—nature has done her part kready. LOCAL NEWS. . . .-.--.—..., CORPO RATION OP LIVERPOOL. —A splendid admission to th e tilos'P' ' ullied h onour and purity of this Corporation, fell f rom th e of an adverse witness - during his examination before the (~orainissioners. The memorable words were these, "I believe fulere never was an estate of such magnitude so honestly and fairly was d." c o re. of the witnesses before the commissioners described the stieporation as one party in palitics and one sect in relrgion.— and " i 8 the description given of men who uphold the manarchy, te established ch - urch. Ye 'shades of Hooker, Taylor, Harrow,ynn . with countless others of powerful talents, whither are Lr'l," "ed. Are your lights, the brightest and purest that ever le, now to be extinguished; are all the efforts of a judicious ,oker, and the whole ecclesiastical polity of which he was the n isei, suous suPPorter, to be buried in oblivion? Eveu so. A ,landate has gone forth to . overthrow them all. Honour and d ubatissi on to kings is no longer a scriptural doctrine, and n o at inction is to be made between him who conforms to the j plirest interp retat i on of revelation; and one who 'relapses into "e iolatry, or t a k es up with the most extravagant heresy. Under cloak of liberty everything that is sound in politi cs an d Pure in r e li g i on, is to' be cast away, and it will soon be found, 1 .0. the m id st of no small -dismay and so rrow , th a t an age o f dap h e has already begun, arid is rapidly advancing, which r‘‘e, blind e d by the false literature and notions of th e d a y, h ave t staken for one of light a n d o f k now l e d ge. "D eep verst i n ) 9 o lts, and shallow-in Ourselves," from the want of th a t supe 'a io r . jad t tment, which Milton' o forcibly mentions, we are fallen thi ng. nnt iv e with ertainty,- and take pleasure i n unse ttli ng every eb L• WILLIAMS, M.P.—This gentle man ' s ev id ence b e f ore the municipal commissioners will ex c it e a sm il e . H e objects to the m onument of. Canning, an almost unrivalled piece of aculpture from the hands of Chantry, and, believe it reader, he Oescends even t o the chairs of the Council, as too costly. The late Mr. Canning and the Corporation of Liverpool never held 'la)* opinions in common with the member for Ashton. Hinc rt 74 lachryme on the part of the colonel, which he will shed daozsettlper.efusely in the . next session -of Parliament —Lancaster MARCH OP THE COMMISSIONERS.—Messrs. Roscoe, Rushton, and suite are making a pleasant tour in Devonshire, and earn- K_lpg threeeir wag es more eas i ly than they ever did before. About i vveeks aoo, they entered the borough of Plympton, in .flat county r,„ ety arid, proceeding to overhaul the affairs of the cor ,,i).-0,,, they were thunderstruck when they were informed at the income was only thirteen shillings, and' the expenditure !bout seoendy pounds!. ley - committed a sad mistake in being taken to a private house instead of the inn, itito the drawing room of which the y entered . Unceremoniously, rang the bell, and ho c alled for porter - and other - ref res h men t s . - The owner of the use happened to be an honest maltster, who soon made his 412pearance, and did not like theirs. He ordered them to hop owariskty, which they did after making the necessary apologies. One of the first results of the municipal reform in the corpo -I:atioin of Edi n b urgh has been, that the Lord Provost's salary is 9lea at £5OO for expenses ; if the latter exceed that amount, he I t ' h to Pay the excess himself.—London paper.—[ We hoped better t h in g! from the new reformed Town-council of Auld Reekie, h u a n 'Hleh a lavish expenditure of the "public treasure." Five t eared a year is enough to corrupt the whole radical consti tt!enee of the ancient capital of Scotland, seeing that it will ilace at his lordship's disposal thirty thousandglasses of whiskey dr-a hIT, which may b e most uneonstitutionally given to and end '' hY that constitutional body. We would uudertake to I five thousand weavers, either of whom would be glad to Pre vost it f or one -tenth . of that sum. Mr. Hume must look to this in time.---EDIT. LIVSRPOOL STANDARD.] EXTRAORDINARY DESPATCH.--The following instance of activity and correctness of calculation, sustained of course, by h t he favou r of the elements to its completion, we should think as seldom, if ever, been exceeded. A gentleman thus ad (tresses his friend from Kingston, Jamaica, on the 4th October. --- N o l l_l am, off for Cuba, and ex p ec t t o b e i n Li verpoo l on the 20th " Yearb the ee." He. sailed, f rom Ki ngs t on f or t h e . H avana, went 'lnd Island, did business there—proceeded to Charleston .-tratiasacted large business - there—discharged a cargo, and I°44e dagain for New York, where he proceeded,—took his pas !age on board tie packet-shiP Britannia, which sailed on the let In ' ta nt from New York, and arrived in Liverpool on the after the of the 19th November. . SHIP CACIQUE.—The following appears in the obituary of a "ateMporary :—.," At sea, on board the Cacique, hence for Li 'inav Captain Dagnia. The mate not feeling himself competent ti.,;),oavifiate the vessel, round Cape Horn, put back and reached o de • aneiro after he had been 101 days at sea," The owners of the Cacique feel it due to a deservin g man to say, that the stat e ment put. orward after th e announcement of Captain Dag- Va's death, is not t ru e: I t i s true that the mate put back to " 0 Janeiro for water and refreshments. It is, however, equally true that he proceeded in coinanauti,sse.the ship in her voyage round Cape Horn and has conducted hi mse lf muc h t o t h e i r satisfaction; ' " - • tfmNATO. OP SIR HERBERT SAWYER. K.C.B.—This distill shed.ofEcer expired at Bath, on Wednesday last, where he " l a,d been residing - for some time on account of the health of 'hl l n a a l' a "Sir Herbert was raised to the rank of post-captain in y in the year 1789; rear-admiral, 1807; and admiral of tile , whhe, in 1825. During the greater part of the war he was "'velY. engaged iu the service of his country. a D ied; at Paington, Devon, William Harvey Hooper, Esq., eeretaq to Greenwich Hospital. This amiable and distin ct gentleman was one of the confidential companions of a fr t .' 4 , "1 it's in his first polar voyage, and of Captain Parry in l i "el perilous undertakings in pursuit of a north-west passage. ti • Hooper was a man of superior abilities as well as of gen e:manly manners, an d f or a long series of years, served his I les T... unt rY, as a nah honou r and c val officer, in various parts of the globe with credit to himself. * A t a meeting- - of- the, subscribers to Lloyd's Coffee-house, 4-440„,,d0n, on Friday last, the following resolution was agreed to : for a net the sum of £l,OOO be given from the funds of the house, a t he purpose of formieg as correct and perfect a register with reig n of all shipping belonging to this country, and f with reign shipping trading to British ports." In pursuance t o -morrow the forms(Wednesd of the house, a ballot on the question is fixed tor y.) . Piceroceues.—The streets, for some time past, have been In_fested by pickpockets, but we are glad to find that the police :"a7`e on the alert, for, dining last week, ,eleven boys have been stnitted, for periods varying from one to. three mouths, to the Hbuse of Correction, for picking gentlemen's pockets. Tio s s i . sipa., • -otar SHOEMAKER s.—The sitting maoistrate at the New r eY (Mr. E'. J. Lloyd), was occupied on Tuesday for a con out able time in hearing a case of assault, arising out of a turn wt 'amongst the shoemakers in the employ of Mi. Wimpory, of t wo An n's -square. Mr. Law, on behalf 'of the complainants, b:eshoemakers named Page and Mallard, stated that for some .ls e past Mr. Wimpory's shop has been regularly picquetted ~a. In turn-outs, in the same way that the joiners' shops were i-auetted some months ago. on Saturday night the two cons iaettnctsFwere leaving the shop, when one of the defendants, accosted Pox, who acted as a sort of president of the t . urn-puts, f or L , .•age, and told him that there was somethmo in pickle tht3,l_,; I mmediately after several men came up, ana assauLed tothe most violent manner with sticks and pieces of iron, to _ P ao 's face was severely cut. Three witnesses were called t ,Proae these facts, and two of them swore positively that the R:eriefendant, David Caldwell, took an active part in the „'.. 1 7.- Pox, with all the effrontery of a mob showing r, ",am ed these witnesses for the purpose othat he lad tl° Connection with the men who committed the assault ; and on i . 7 . 11 _ ,If of Caldwell, two witnesses were called who swore posi t7e that at the time the assault was said to have been coin th(ted• he was in their company. Mr. Lloyd said he thought ek are was no case against Caldwell, he must therefore be dis -I,"4roged •• but with respect to Fox, it was evident he had made tc r,_ f thr ' eats, and must therefore find two sureties in £3O each L( K eep the pea hree months. Mr. Law pressed for a I)Utriittal to thesessions, but Mr. Lloyd said he did not think c,B7e- case was of such a nature as to require the interference of a , e , 60 ? court. A not h er . charge was then preferred against dwell, for assaulting another of Mr. Wimpory's workmen, I', med Troy, On Sunday night. The complainant was walking al Deausgate soon after ten o'clock, when Caldwell followed Vemv.erand called out to some other men to knock him down. .'' .a.. _ .al attempts were made to accomplish this; but Troy es aeill'ee: and took refuge in a house in Jackson's-row.' The de ponedtorthis case was also an alibi, and the heating was post roduc ,11. Wednesday, in order to allow Caldwell time to 14 . No e_h_ Is witnesses. On that day the case was re-heard by was his `, 68 , when Troy again distinctly swore to Caldwell, who itt ht: br other-in-law, and therefore be could not be mistaken On the other hand two witnesses were called, who 3 1 ,10 re *that they were in company with Caldwell in Back ~,":?Mas-street, Shudehill, until after ten o'clock. Mr. Norris pa id to thought the alibi was not sufficiently proved, and or pe'_ 1 aldvsell to find two sureties in £lO each, to keep the eve for thiee months. £IO Courier. • TRADE AND MANUFACTURES. LRRT.!, Nov. 22.—At length the uniformity which . has cha r4et, e ost therized the business at our celebrated Woollen NI arts during kre whole of the current year has b ee n i n t erru p te d, an d an Tuesday last ver sales w ere e ff ec t e d , part i cularly i n the olo tired cloth Hall. y few The market is admitted on all hands to have b een one of the worst that has been experienced for some ,m e- Trade, in general, is less brisk, but we do not hear of any , • - er). large number of workmen being out of employ, except to thestuff trade, which is wofully slack at present. BRA rwoRD Nl: k i t: ET , Thursday, was the same as those in the last few vi on dull. - W - o'ol continues high, and the terchants stille persist ve iii refusing the terms asked for the ma gactured article The prices of six-q uar t er mer i nos h ave give n ~,,,_ former raYteas.little, but low e - r descriptions have maintained their ettiol., Roby lithat IP" MARKET, on Saturday, it was with much diffi any considerable sales were effected either in stuff At r v , OOl, but the former prices.were, in general, obtained. thel°ltinnEasrlEtn, and in the surrounding neighbourhood, cloth trade continues brisk, and.there was much activity in trheaedrilarket on Tuesday. Woollens of all descriptions went off 1 , at improved prices. In the fancy trade there is not so Much doing. _ 114)..t DrwßßUßT,theblanket trade continues dull, hut the ma bsighn Picture of coarse cloths for padding, 8:c. is petty active in the bonrhood. At the ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, on Monday last, the b nYers were not n umermisjet many pieces were sold; low and middling alit went off briskly, but finer sorts were no snuckt,, I nquired for. In same few cases an advance in prices was , usmned, but generally they sold at about the same prices as 1 ,,t 4 t, week- Snell is the difficulty in obtaining (even at high . 17,;„" 4- ,... 1 t he raw ssiateri4 for low qualities, that many a tie l haro stopped part of their hands, and seem re rather to diacootinite their manufacture than aell at itteMent price. THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD, LIVERPOOL CORPORA7ION INQUIRY. SEVENTELISTH DAY. This morning (.Friday) the labours of the investigation were resumed. .The Commissioners took their seats upon the bench shortly after ten o'clock. - The Town-Clerk - banded in the petition to the Common Council (alluded.to by Mr. James Malieneux yesterday) from the churchwardens and a portion of the congregation of St, Michael's Church, complaining of the appointment of the Rev. "1-hoinas.Johnson, and recommending the Rev William God dard as a successor to the Rev. Mr. Asyinall. Mr. Radcliffe, the Solicitor, in allusion to the petition which was read by the Town-Clerk, said that St. Michael's Church a parish church, and on its being . given up to was originally the Corporation, there was a stipulation that 700 sittings should he reserved for the accommodation of the poor. During the ministry of Mr. Aspivall these sittings were crowded. • The ot h er pews-were also all taken, and the churchwarden, Mr. Lawrence, had great difficulty in getting one for himself. Since the appointment of Mr. Johnson, the seats of the poor were comparatively deserted, and thirty-nine of the other pews at least were now empty. Another minister, however, had lately been appointed, Who had a voice capable of being heard in that church, which Mr. Johnson - had not. The Rev. Mr. Goddard did not come forward as a candidate, as he had little prospect of success. The petition of the churchwardens was treated in cbuversation with Mr. Lawrence, by Mr. Alderman Peter Bourne, as an act of dictation on the part of the congre gation. Mr. Lawrence, one of the churchwardens who signed the pe tition, confirmed the statement of Mr. Radcliffe. Mr. James Mulleneux, in having brought forward this affair to the notice of the commissioners, disclaimed any hostile feel ing towards the Rev. Mr. Johnson, whom, he stated, he most highly respected; but the manner in which the Corporation dis pensed their patronage he thought was inimical to the interests of the church congregation. . Mr. W. 13ushby, one of the late churchwardens of the church, in answer to an inquiry from the Town-clerk, stated, that pre vious to Mr. Johnson's appointment to Sit. Michael's, he was the curate of St. Nicholas's, in which situation he was univer sally:respected by the congregation. He was a most zealous visitor of the poor, and both rich and poor held him iu high esteem. Mr. Lawrence and Mr. Mulleneua agreed with Mr. Bushby that the personal character of the Rev. Mr. Johnson stood very high. Mr. Dutton, one of the congregation of St. Michael's Church, said there were many complaints of Mr. Johnson being inaudi ble, and, although not dull of apprehension or hearing, lie never heard a sermon in his life that he could make anything of. (A laugh.) Whitt he meant was, that he could not hear Mr. John son s sermons so 'as to understand them. Mr. Commissioner Wilkinson asked the witness if be also entertained a high respect for Mr. Johnson's personal charac ter ? • Witness.-4 do., sir; I have done work for Mr. Johnson, and he always treated me as a gentleman. (A laugh.) The court, noW resumed the inquiry into the affairs of the Dock Estate. Mr. Edward Crook examined.—ls a merchant of Liverpool, but not a burgess. The Clarence Dock is for steam-vessels. They are better able to stop their way than other vessels. (A laugh.) I wish. you to take a note of that. (Loud laughter.) Its the best regulated dock of any, in my opinion. The new docks I know nothing about, as they would not let me in. Af ter giving some other particulars of no moment, Mr. Crook said he " wished to address himself to the George's Parade." (A laugh.) The steam-boats have all their own ,way at the pierhead. (A laugh.) The small boats have no place to lie in, and are hardly allowed to ply for passengers. Yesterday, I saw the Britannia go into George's Dock Basin. She struck against the pier with her cat-head, and drove one of the stones in four inches, just as a paviour would do. (A laugh.) This is a proof that the docks are not built with proper solidity. They don't treat ships with civility at the docks. (A laugh.) I don't think it is necessary for me to say anything more to prove that the docks are not taken care of as they should be. (Laughter.) The,yessels are allowed to run in confusion against themselves. (A laugh.) After reciting a great many instances of_ neglect and confusion in support of his opinions, he concluded by say ing, "All I have to say on the subject is, that things are not carried on as they ought to." Cross-examined by Mr. J. C. Morrall.—Ships are under the command of pilots until they come within the basins, but I think they should not be. It would tend more to prevent accidents if they were under the charge of the Dock Committee. Mr. Radcliffe stated that the boatmen who plied upon the ri ver had complaints to make in consequence of their not being allowed to land goods and passengers at Woodside, they having received notice from the proprietors and tenants of the land, prohibiting them from so doing. John Wardleworth, a •boatman, here came forward to be examined respecting the want of accom mo d a ti on f or small craft in the ri ver . In the number of grievances to which the boatmen were subject was the annoyance the small boats ex perienced from what he termed the Ball-jumper of Eastham, which, he explained, was a boat that carried bulls and other animals from Eastham. Had received a notice from Mr. F. R. Price, the proprietor of the land at Woodside, and from Mr. Williams, the tenant, prohibiting him and other boatmen from landing goods or passengers. There was, originally, an ancient ferry to Woodside, to which the boatmen had resorted from time immemorial. Mr. Williams had built a new quay, having pulled down the old one. He had a toll-gate placed on the quay, through which he prevented the boatmen from passing their passengers. By the Town-clerk.—Mr. Williams did not always prevent them from going through the gate, but did as he liked, like other big men. (Laughter.) He prevents boatmen fr om land ing on the He has another gate, which all passengers must _pass through, even if they were landed on the beach. lie (witness) thought there shouhrbe a dock for the small boats between the Salthouse and the Dry Docks. Mr. Rosson,,the barrister, here rose and begged to make a suggestion in reference to the inconveniences brought under the notice of the commissioners by Mr. Cook. It appeared by the 51st Geo. 111. cap. 143, sec. 82, the Dock Trustees had power to appoint sufficient officers for the management and regulation of the docks. He wished to make a suggestion for improving the polic.e of the docks. He thought the line of clocks should be divided into three districts,..ancl 7 that assistant hat hour-masters should he appointed—lieutenants of the navy, or men accustomed to command. The dock police had pri vates enough, but wanted officers. At the Bromrelaw, at Glas gow, there were two such officers, who compelled the steam boats to start punctually every half hour, as the clock strikes. They wanted offiCers here who should take charge of ships as soon as they came within hail, and provide proper accommo dation for them. He suggested, with every respect to the Dock Committee, that they should write to Glasgow, and other leading ports, and obtain copies of their regulations. The ar rangements at Glasgow, in this respect, were excellent. Mr. Alderman Ithrsfall examined by the Town-clerk.---Is a merchant and a shipowner extensively engaged in business.— Was one of the audit commissioners in 1822 or 1823, who took an active part in the proceedings which led to a change in the Dock Trust. I wasone of the sub-committee for arranging vari ous clauses then under discussion. The fullest opportunity. was given to both parties to discuss the clauses. My impression was, that the audit commissioners were to have simply the power of auditing the accounts, without interfering with the application of the money. I went to London to watch the bill. Thinks that Mr. Ilitskisson contemplated this arrangement as a final one. As a shipowner and merchant has a considerable interest in the good management of the Dock estate. Is also interested as a Common Councilman. Is not conscious of any instance in which the Dock Commitee have not acted for the benefit of the port. Conceives the Dock estate to be exceedingly well ma naged; could not be better. Examined. by. Mr. Duncan.—ln the negociations on the bill of 1825 was one of .those who tried to get a majority of rate payers on the Dock Committee. The merchants twice offered to leave the questions in the bill of 1825 to Mr. Huskisson. The Common Council twice declined. The rates of' the London docks are much lower than those of Liverpool. The despatch of vessels is much more expeditious. By Mr. W. Rathbone.—Was not chairman of Mr. Colley 'norter's committee; did not give instructions to the canvassers to go out, nor ever gave a sixpence to any man whatever, either in that or any other election. (Cheers.) . Does net know, ex cept from common report, that a great deal of money was ex pended. Mr. Rathbone.—Did not you desire Mr. George-Robinson to go to Warrington to canvass? Mr. Horstall.—l - did not interfere in anyway, as' I have already • stated. Mr.ttil;bone.—Was there not a connexion contemplated between your family and that of Mr. Porter ? Mr. 114sfall.:-.4 'shall not answer the question. I think it impertinent. (Cries of "So it is.") Nr. Commissioner Wilkinson said that Mr. Horsfall was not bound to answer the question. Mr. Horsfall stud the only objection he had to answer the question was, than thOught it impertinent. (Cheers.) Mr. Rathbone 'said he put the question, as Mr. Foster had just stated that there was no family connexion. Mr. Foster denied having stated anything of the kind. The commissioners referred to their notes, when it appeared that Mr. Foster had not made any such statement. Mr. Itathbone.—lt appears I am mistaken. If I have used any language that may have seemed impertinent in manner, I ask Mr. - Horsfall's pardon ; but as to the matter of my question, I think I had a right to put it. Mr. Horsfall.-At- was not. to the manner ,but to the matter of your question that I objected. 111 r. Rathbone would place himself in the judgment of the commissioners whether his question was either irrelevant or impertinent. lie' wished to ascertain whether there existed - a family connexion. If the commissioners thought proper to check him he would bow to their decision. • Mr. Commissioner Wilkinson said that the question did not strike'him as lieing either irrelevant or improper. , Mr. RathbOne, .(to Mr. Horsfall.)—You have saved some hundreds a year by receiving your freedom ? Mr. Horstall.-1 have saved a considerable sum. I don't know how much. Mr. Rathbone.---You have given the freedom to your son ? Mr.' Horslall.—l have; the Mayor's freedom. Mr. Ilathbone.did not find fault with 31r..Horsfall for having given the freed om to his son, as he thought 'it perfectly natural. He then said that he had put the questions for the sole purpose of showing that the grounds of admission to the freedom and to the Common Council frequently rested on family influence. Mr.. A. Woodward asked Mr. florsfall what advantage his son would derive from the freedom as applied to the town dues, he being a broker? Mr, liorsfall replied none. The Town-clerk called upon Mr. Alderman Bourne for a statement of the amount of town dues paid by his firm. Mr. Alderman Bourne stated, in reply, that, in 1814, he had paid £1325 19s, 9d. Of town's dues on salt exported. Of that sum £704 17s. was ott salt sent to the Prussian government, which, it was stated the other day, he had attempted to evade the pay ment of. This he charged to the Pruisian government. Tile King of Prussia did not complain of the dues being oppressive. Had never heard complaints on the subject. Mr. Duncan said, there had been.memorials presented to the Common Connell, complaining of the duties on salt. Mr. Alderman Sandbach sworn.—Was one of the audit com missioners. Thinks there is no better managed estate than the Dock Trust. Is interested as a dock bond-holder to a larger extent than any one else. Mr. Itathbone said, that having been at different times chairman of the American Chamber of Commerce, they had had' frequent communications from the manufacturing districts, complaining of the dues, and als o i nstructions from Amer i can correspondents,. soliciting . the int er f erence of t h e Ch am b er against, the imposition of the town dues, contending that those town 'dues were a tax upon trade, hut that they were expended solely for local improvements not benefiting that trade, and that, in many instances, the duties seemed to be disproportion ately levied. The Town-clerk.--My impression is, that the Chamber of Commerce did remonstrate with the Common Council on the subject. The duty on salt is oppressive, being 10 per cent. upon its present low rate. - The American Chamber of Commerce is one of the bodies that have come forward complaining of the town dues in the case of Mr. Bolton. The opposit►on is general. No. money has come front America to aid Mr. Bolton's suit. Has seen the improvetneuts in the town. Is not aware that the merchants have had a meeting to oppose such an expenditure. The whlenin6 , of the streets has hen a general advantage to the inhabitants of the town. . . Mr. Aldorman Thomas Case,—The duty on salt is 1U per cent. upon the present cost.' Of course, wuen sa.t was at 235.• per ton it must have been half that. The isown-clerk here said that the purchases from Sir John Tobin and Mr. Laird were made in 18M, and the total amount of the purchase appeared• to be, from the corporate books, £81,657. The whose a►nount of the bond debts was 1:792,009 • 13s. l ld., of which, Common Councilmen, for themselves as executors and trustees, held to the amount of £68,372. Mr. llosson said that it might be' desirable to submit evi dence of the Catholic population, which amounted to more than one-fourth of the population of the town: The court said they would name Monday at ten o'clock to receive that and - oth;r statistical information. _ _ . _ . The Town-clerk having handed np copies of the various minutes of the vetus of the Common Council on the Dock Committee reso lutions; asked the commissioner whether he was to understand that the inquiry into the affairs of the Corporation was now at an end? . _ The commissioner said there was one or two 'points in the investigation that had not been gone into, one of which was the mode of selecting juries Mr. Thompson and Mr. Ashton, who had served the office of bailiffs, were examined as to the mode of selecting juries. it appeared that this was done sometimes by the 'fown-clerk, sometimes by the Bailiff. It was admitted that in point of fact, the petty jury were nominated by the Town-clerk, or in his office. Had heard no complaints as to the mode of selecting the juries, except that the jurors sometimes complained of being called on too often. The Town-clerk here rose and addressed the court on the subject of the duties of the Recorder. Ile was not aware that an opinion of his was of any valde, but he- thought that if the Court of Passage were extended, it would be necessary for the Recorder to reside here, or to come more frequently t o t h e town. From what he had observed in the papers of a plan that the Recorder should aid the magistrates in the discharge of their duties, he (Mr. F.) thought it not desirable that he should do so, the alteration in the law having placed under •the juris diction of the court of quarter sessions the trial of all serious offences. He entertained a strong opinion that justice would be best administered if the judge of the court were tree from all bias which might arise from Ins interference in the incipient .proceedings. A judge is best enabled to discharge his duties correctly, who is not exposed to the risk of participating in that excitement, which often takes place in large towns, when an offence of any high character, or. an offender of any previous note is brought to justice. Therefore, he thought the residenee of the Recorder was not necessary—or perhaps advisable. Mr. Foster said there was but one pannel for the trial of prisoners at the quarter sessions. In consequence of the great labour of the last session or two, it was the intention of the court to con tinue the quarter sessions without intermission on the Thurs day, so as to allow the court of passage to continue its busi ness. By this it was expected that the session would be con eluded within the week. The pannel, in future, would be rix tended from_ltuirty . -six to forty-eight, to gain a jury rcre'the Thursday. He hoped the magistrates' would arrange for some -barrister to assist them, while the Recorder would preside in the Court of Passage. Should this plan be adopted; therewould be a great reduction in the charges on the county rate; for the attendance of witnesses would be shortened, which -constitutes a great portion of the expense. Mr. Lliis examined.-1 have been in the Town-clerk's office twenty-five years. I have always selected the juries since 1819, without any interference.—After giving full information. re specting the selection of juries, Mr. Ellis proceeded to say that although he had been a burgess for twenty-five years, he had never voted at an election but once, and that was far hOrd Sandon and Sir Howard Douglas. We have never had causes in the Court of Passage in which political questions were in volved, or in which the Corporation was concerned. The Town-clerk said that on one occasion a man was com mitted for embezzling the dock rates, and the Mayor and Recorder refused to try him on account of the interest they conceived they had in the dock rates, as trustees. The man was removed Gy certiorari into the Court of King's Bench, tried at Lancaster, and sentenced in term. The proceeding cost the dock trustees £2OO. • Mr. Commissioner Wilkinson now stated that on those sub jects on which they had received letters of complaint they would hear the parties to-mthrow morning at ten o'clock. ' The commissioners then adjourned the court until Saturday. _ _ EIGHTEENTH DAY. This morning, (Saturday,) the investigation was resumed. — The commissioners took their seats upon the bench at ten o'clock. Lieutenant Morrison rose and again wished to draw the at: tention of the court to th e subject of the Seamen's Hospital.— He said that in 1747 a building called the Seamen's Hospital was commenced in Liverpool. It was finished in 1752, and cost the sum of £1,500. The support of the Hospital bad been ef fected by the payment of sixpence a month by every seaman sailing out of the port of Liverpool. The seamen also paid 6d. per month to the Greenwich Hospital. The money' was 'col lected at the Custom-house, by authority of an actor Parlia-, ment. The building was pulled down in 1826 to make room for the improvements, since which time there had been no attempts made to restore it. .The funds now in the hands of the Corpora tion were somewhere about £40,000, and the custom now was said to be to allow the sum of 2s. or 3s. per week to those who were claimants on the charity. The object of his application was to see justice done to the seamen as a body. He held in his hand the letter of a seaman's widow, stating her claims and pro fessing her inability to procure any relief from the charity. (The letter was read : it purported to be from Anne Borton, who claimed upon the charity in consequence of her husband having been wrecked in the ship Susan, of this port.) He (Lieutenant Morrison) understood that there was a president, secretary, treasurer, and collector attached to the institution, and that Mr. Marston, the late Mayor, was the president. Mr. Alderman Horsfall rose, and, with reference to the state ment of Lieutenant Morrison, said, that an hospital had been built for seamen at the cost of £1,500, -which sutra was raised by . Private contributions, the site being given by the Corporation. The building eventually got dilapidated, and was sold to the Corporation for the sum of £6,500, on which interest of 5 per cent. was now paid. There arc fifteen trustees of the institu tion, elected from the shipowners and Merchants of - Liverpool: the act of Parliament did not require an hospital; the accounts were published annually; and the seamen paid Is. per month, one half of which went -to the. Greenwich.- Hospital. -si There hi. a' secretary, Mr. Allen, who is paid a salary of £l3O per annum, Mr. Horsfall here handed the commissioners the current account for the year 1832, from which it appeared that the capital stock was £36,950, .and the yearly income £4,048 2s. ld. ; that the sum of £3,021 17s. had been paid to 861 widows, children, and disabled seamen. The incidental expences; (including sala ries, &c.) amounted to about £2OO, leaving a balance of about £l,OOO in Heywood's Bank. Mr. Horsfall here wished to explain, in reference to the con test of Mr. Alderman Porter, for the office of Mayor, iu 1827, alluded to yesterday by Mr. Ratiihone, that the contest was .entered into without his (Mr. H.'s) consent, although he cer tainly had subscribed to pay a portion of the expences. tie was not a burgess at the time, and hail only been twice in the committee-room during the contest. He was not aware what the expences of the election were, and he had never sent Mr. Robinson, or any one else, to Warrington to seek up voters, Lieutenant• Morrison again rose to touch upon that very sore subject to him, the telegraphic establishment. He said that that establishment, as managed by the dock committee, cost the port much more than it ought to do. The committee allowed Lieutenant Watson to carry on a private business at a great charge to the merchants. The sale of signal flags in th e first year of the establishment must have been nearly £2000 . - He asked the clerk of Lieutenant Watson, who was present , what was the amount in one 'year received for the sale of flans' Mr. Colman; the clerk, had understood that Lieutenant W:it. son had received £SW in one year for the sale of flags. ti e could not, however, speak positively, nor did lie know the amount of Lieutenant Watson's emeliiments. _ Mr. Alderman Horsfall remarked that the subject was pti_ vate business. Lieutenant Morrison replied that it was, and the committee allowed Mr. Watson to carry on business at the charge of the merchants. It was in the commissioners' notes, from the evi_ dente of Lieutenant Watson, that the information to the pub_ lie from the telegraph stations was supplied gratis. The fa ct was, that Mr. Watson had asked the Lyceum to pay him a year, but they paid him eight guineas. He was also paid by the West India, American, and other associations. Mr. Colman did not know what Lieutenant Watson received as emoluments. _ _ Mr. Alderman Sandbach, referring to the evidence given by himself on the Dock Estate, said, that he had been reported a s having, described the collisions of the Dock Committee "as a struggle fur ascendancy." He had not meant to say so, for 4 e had never seen a division without rate-payers and Commo n - Councilmen on each side. _ _ Mr. James Perrin, a merchant, alluded to the questioning o f Mr. Horsfall yesterday by Mr. Rathbone, and expressed hi s opinion that the latter had been insulted by the former statin4` Mr. Rathbone's questions to be impertinent. He was procea ing with several rude remarks in application to Mr. Ilorsfall, and defending the conduct of Mr. Rathbone, when the court informed him that Mr. Rathbone was quite capable of defend', in g - himself: The observations of Mr. Perrin in allusi on tor. Horsfall elicited much disapprobation throughout the court. Mr. Perrin wished to be examined on the subject of the town dues, and, being sworn, stated ?that there were discrepancies which must be altered even if the town dues were continued. A ton of butter worth £BO was charged Is., whilst a bushel of oats worth-£l2 paid Is. 4d., and the same value of butter paid consequently oats paid ten times as much of butter.' A ton of copper worth £9O paid 6d.. and £5 worth of oats paid 6d.; so that oats paid 18 tunes as much as copper. Ivory worth £5OO or £6OO per ton paid Is.; so that oats, the food of the poor, paid 70 times more than the foreign luxury, ivoi v. He also complained that the burgesses of Wexford, Waterford, and other ports, should be free from the town dues. Mr. Robinson was then examined.—ls a stationer,. and re sides in Liverpool. Is not a burgess. Was one of the witnesses examined before the House of Commons, on the subject of bri bery at elections here. Was examined as to points which re quired exercise of memory. The point as affecting Porter's election was this: a report had reached Porter's committee that Robinson's party were bringing men down from London. Af fairs were so nearly balanced thattbese voters would haveturned the scale against*Porter. Parties were sent to meet these vo ters. Witness went with others to Warrington, with instruc tions either to get the men over for Porter, or to keep them back. Mr. Horsfall was on the committee, and witness saw him when he got these instructions, and considered him as the chairman. It appeared that he was only vice-chairman ; and for six years a printed account of the election contained a state ment to that effect. . _ A report of the evidence of a Mr. Hugh Close was here read, referring to bribery at Mr. Porter's election. Mr. J. C. Nicholson gave evidence relating to a dexuand. of sixpence made by the Dock Estate on him, when he alleged that there was a balance of over paid dock dues in his favour. His evidence was contained in a letter of complaint, which he handed to the court. It stated that he had been summoned be fore Alderman Bourne for the sixpence, and Alderman Bourne ordered that all future claims, if even no more than a . penny, the merchants should be summoned at once, without intimation that such claims existed. Mr. William Foster explained that the act exempted the Dock Trust from any claims of a longer date than 12 months. Several letters of complaint, on various subjects, received from individuals in the town, were here read; they were wholly void of public interest, and entirely foreign to the meaning Of the commission of corporate inquiry; one was a petition fiom Thomas Vickars, respecting the licensing of a public house in Regent street, and certain persecutions affirmed to have originated with his refusal to purchase ale from Mr. John Abbott' Kaye—his imprisonment on arrest by Mr. Kaye—the suspension of his license, (in 1829-30,) and the subsequent refusal of the magis trates to renew it. It was stated, on reference to .the books, that when applica tion was made to have the license granted to Vickars, (who was. in gaol, and who had been ejected from the premises in due course of law by Mr. Kaye,) the magistrates declined renew ing it. Mr. Kaye also applied, but the magistrates thought it' best to let the license drop. Vickars complained that he was now chargeable to the parish, being, unable to work from an accident in his hip. He merely wished to know whether there was any chance of the license being renewed, • The court told the applicant they were sorry for lus iqrmi ties bat they could nut interrere. From what had appeared of tlleconduct of the magistrates in toe business, - he thought it verfccllv satisfactory. Dr. Cofiins ream: ta-d that many of the persons going into public houses were on he: the influence hreweis; troin iney were comixelled to purcinise their beer and porter, or put the houses. Mr. Radcliffe intimated that Mr. Peter Woods was present for the purpose of giving evidence relative to the mode of erect ing members of Parliament, and Mayors, and Bailiffs. Mr. Peter Woods was then sworn and examined.—ls an attorney, was articled in Liverpool in 1788, admitted in 119:3, and has resided here since. In 1190, commenced his electioneer ing career. Espoused the side of Colonel Tarleton, the liberal site, there being three candidates; all came down to canvass; after some days, Tarleton found there was a coalition, and left Liverpool in despair. His opponent rather hastily closed the taps—this created a mutiny in the camp—the closing the taps opened their eyes, and they discov e red, all a t o n ce, that farleton was the fittest man. They went about the streets with his colours, and increased like a snow ball. (A laugh.) Tarleton's friends took advantage of this, encouraged such a feeling, and went to the poll. There was a sham bar, to split votes for him. With great difficulty the first day was got over. The next day Tarte ton returned and carried all before him. Our opponents began to fight-us, but we then beat them, driving the Mayor and the Recorder out of the Exchange. Before the election was over, Lord Penryn ran away, and Bamber Gascovue was taken ill. Tarleton stood at the head of the poll. After all was over, a subscription was entered into, and each burgess who voted for Tarleton received 2s. tad. for his independent vote. This stirring up of the muitituCe became very serious, for it led to a Common Hall the next year—which led to two trials at Lancaster, as to who had the power to make by-laws—the Common Council or the whole burgesses. Was at Lancaster in 1792, when one tr ial cane on, and in the Court of .I(ing's Bench in 1793, when the third new trial was granted. Was then in the office of the London attorneys, employed by the Liverpool burgesses, and, shortly after, a letter came with the news that all was over, as the subscriptions were at an end. At the election he named the treating went on, and also in 1796, when witness kept a check for Tarleton. In 1802, Mr. Birch was a candidate, and there was a puncheon of rum, with the head taken out, and distributed among " the independent bur gesses." In IEO6 the Whigs were in power, and Mr. Roscoe was returned. He then had more friends than -at any time before or since whether they were expectants or not cannot say, but it was likely. Much money was spent then, and bri bery with cash commenced. In 1812 I got promoted, and was made captain of a district. I had fourteen lieutenants under my command. I had many houses to attend to, and had to make a great many abort speeches. The speech usually was, "Is all the beef and ale done ?" and the invariable answer was, "It is!" Some of my lieutenants used to make long speeches; but my short speech, with the beef and ale to back-it, made more impression than all their oratory. 1 was the innocent cause of much mischief; for these gentlemen became orators, and we. never could silence theinsince. There is nu getting. through business at any public meeting since. 1 advocated the cause of Messrs. Brougham . and Creevy. We spent £17,000, paid £14,000, and got £3OIX) in debt, which is not yet paid. We were defeated, as usual. In 1816, Mr. Canning was re• elected, and Mr. Leyland was started to oppose him. I get so often defeated that I gave it up. I only won once in thirty-five years, and then I took to mayor-making. Between the election of 1812 and 1816, I became very intimate with Mr. Leyland, our rich banker. He told me very often he was determined to become. a candidate to represent the town in Parliament,- and we thought it important to have a friendly mayor at the time of the election. General Green (a notorious man that Most peo ple would recollect) came to me and asked if I had any objec tion to Mr. Wright (the present mayor) becoming mayor. Mr. Leyland- and myself consulted, and we told Green he might make him mayor if he chose fit. Soon after, Mr. Leyland came to me and said, " Mr. Wright will not do for us." I said, " Why did you not say so sooner? lam committed to Green, and do not know how to be off." I added, "A thought strikes me how to get out of this. I'll send Green out to Mr. Wright, to ask him if he will call public meetings on a requisition being: sent to him." I fully expected he would refuse, but he de ceived me, for he said he would. (A laugh.) So we were in for it. Then we set about making two bailiffs, and fixed on Mr. George Drinkwater and Mr. Edw. Pearson ;_ the latter was in indifferent health, and we substituted Mr. J. D. Case, knowing him to be one of our friends. When the election came on, Mr. Leyland did not become a .candidate. In 1820, we made him Mayor, and, in 1821, we proposed his nephew, Mr. Bullen. Mr. Cyrus Morrell and myself were the only persons who took an active part in giving the money away. Early on the morning of election, 1 met , Mr. Leyland opposite the Athenaeum, in Church-street, and, in talking about the election of his nephew for mayor, he said, " My advice is to spare neither exertion or expense. 1 care not who is mayor." Looking at the future, I consider his meaning to be that he would offer himself as a candidate for a seat in Parliament. I then saw. Mr. Morrall, told him what had passed, and said that I considered it equiva lent to a carte blanche, that be would be blamed if we did not Win the election, and propbsed to spend the money freely. How it was I don't know, but the money was not forthcoming. About twelve o'clock we were very .near beaten. I was told that, by an arrangement between the parties, not more than 6s. was to be paid to each burgess for his vote. Hearinohat our 1 opponents had broken their agreement, by giving ale in ad dition to these 68., we commenced giving ills. or El a-head. Our opponents followed us, but we kept overt their heads, having the longer purse of the two. A. placard was printed, offering , £3O a tally. One of those was posted opposite our op ponents committee-room, and they came over to us. I pro posed to have a board painted, with " £5O. a tally," and have it carried up and down-Castle-street, that every one might see the system. But we only gave £4 a-head, and were successful. In 1824, some of us subscribed £5 a-piece, at the election of Mr. Elollinshead, in the hope that lie would call a Common Hall. We were successful, and I got £3 back out of my. £5. I am not aware that I have any more to say. I came to give evidence by the wish of-Mr. Radcliffe, and I have finished my statement. Mr. Radcliffe said, the court would now see that they had a history down to within ten years of the period embraced in the report which they had possession of. Dr. Collins wished to give evidence on the subject of eccle siastical patronage. has resided in Liverpool nearly ten years. Ilas frequently taken an active part in protecting the parish from extravagant expenditure. The indirect influence of the Corporation -has always marred those efforts., Several attempts had been made' for tlie , adoption of certain measures for re- . ' trenchment, - but these were frustrated by some -per - sons - hating six votes,' according to their property, and the churchwardens and most of the select vestry beingenider Corporation influence. It was discovered that Sir aolin Hobhouse's bill gave one vote and no more to all rated parishioners. Notice was given of the intended introduction of this act. The select vestry and churchwardens grew alarmed. A public meeting was called, by the churchwardens, to take the sense of the parish against the bill. Mr. Mac Ivor was in the chair, and many of the lead ing whigs of the town (Mr. W. Currie among them) were against the bill. Resolutions were proposed, condemning the introduc tion of the bill, but they were defeated, and counter resolutions passed, declaring that tire bill wouldbe advantageous to the parish. These resolutions were not made public, as the others would have been. The law required that certain papers, with signatures, should be sent in to the churchwardens, and Mr. Foster and Mr. Braucker 1 endeavoured to prevent the votes coming in. Remonstrated with the churchwarden, and said that he (witness) saw uentle men taking the papers and putting them into their pockets stead of returning them. The churchwarden, informed of this act, declined to interfere. When the polling closed, we eadea-1 voured to ascertain what number had voted, and received no answer hut.that the number required had not.: nor is it known to this day. When the meeting took place in the Sessions-house, Mr. Turner stated that there being no check, thousands per annum could be sequestered by collusion. When, at parish meetings, a poll is demanded, the gentlemen on 'Change rush in, and carry the question by their six votes. To show how far lavish expenditure prevails, the law expenses of the parish amount to £2,000 a-year. Mr. Lowndes, the vestry-clerk, has only £350 salary, but makes at least £2,000. The parish ac counts, amounting to £50,000 at least, are presented, and ex pected to be passed, without allowing the parish any time to see On what items the. charges are made. The parties who have been most anxious to promote these abuses have always been the active partizans of the Corporation. Mr. Lowndes, the vestry-clef k, said that on Mo n d a y he would a dduce evidence to rebut the charges made by D r . • Collins in hi:: evidence. - • In answer to a question from the court, the Town-clerk said that the average expellee of a private act of Parliament, unop posed, was about £ , lOO. Some bills which were opposed some times cost thousands. Dr. Macintyre enquired whether the court would be open on Monday to receive evidence from any medical man respecting the present mode of obtaining medical evid ence at coroners ' in quests,—amode much complained of by the profession. The Town-clerk had given an answer on the subject, which, in his opinion, was by no means satisfactory. - The Couit.—Certainly, we shall receive evidence on that. subject. Mr. James Foster denied that he, as churchwarden, had acted Unfairly respecting the introduction of Sir John C. Hobhouse's bill. there was a scrutiny of votes by the churchwardens, and the parishioners had to depend, for a knowledge of the result, on the churchwardens. Dr. Collins said that great impediments were thrown in the way of such parishioners as wished to examine the votes. Mr. Stewart (partner of Mr. Wm. Foster) assessed the town, and got ELMO for doing so. It. was announced that the assessment was incorrect, and that Mr. James FoAter consented to remain in office to secure the payment of that item. (Hisses, and - cries of " No!") . Mr. Stewart said that the contract had been made before Mr. Poster came into office. • The Mayor bore testimony to the character of Mr. Foster, and to the worth and respectability of the Common Council. Mr. Bolton, in allusion to the late election, stated that the numbers who voted for Mr. Ewart were 4,931, and for Sir Howard Douglas 3,249. Of 35 members of the Common Council Who voted, 29 voted for Lord Sandon, and 4 for Air. Ewart, which sheaved that the Common Council was not the image of the people, whose affairs they administered. The Mayon—Surely, Mr. Bolton, you would allow us to vote as we pleased. (Cheers.) Mr. Bolton.—Yes, hut [ draw the inference, and from that argue, that there must be a change in the constitution of the Corporation. , Mr. Thornely here rose and said, that as his name had been mentioned during the inquiry, he begged to state that, when in Li public requisition he offered himself as a candidate for the re presentation of the borough. he never expected the votes of the self-elected. (A laugh.) 'Po the three who did vote for him he was grateful. One of his objects, had he been sent to Parlia ment, and he avowed inch to have been hi s p ur pose, would have been to open the Corporations of the country. Although he lost his election, be fervently thanked God that he had lived to see the day when the King's commissioners sat on that bench to inquire into the Corporation of Liverpool. It being now half-past three o'clock, the court adjourned until Monday. NINETEENTH DAY. The inquiry into the affairs of the Corporation was resumed yesterday at half•past ten o'clock. - The Town-clerk rose to explain in reference to evidence pre viously given by himself on the subject of the land near Wal lasey Oramraar School,.that the Rev. Augustus Campbell was not at the time (previously alluded to) the rector of the parish. He was in that mistaken, as by reference he found the then rector was the Rev. Mr. Law, son of the then Bishop of Ches ter, the present Bishop of Bath and Wells. He believed that Mr. Campbell's name was down as a commissioner, the act re quiring that two beneficed clergymen should be in the com mission. The name of Mr. Campbell had been inserted at the request of Mr. Newton, the master of the grammar school, at the suggestion of the Bishop of Chester. Mr. Campbell had officiated in that parish for several years before, first as curcte, and secondly as rector. A man named Huntingdon here wished to be examined, to state, as he said, a few words on behalf of the Liverpool bur gesses. He was a burgess by birth and servitude, and it was his opinion that in the multiplicity of business about the Cor poration and the docks, that the - claims of the burgesses had been altogether overlooked. He was of opinion that amongst all the property of the Corporation, that body might find an asylum for freemen in their old age instead of sending them to the Workhouse to mix with others. (A raugh.) He thought it was the freemen who bad to complain most, and not the mer chants about town dues, for the more dues they paid the greater was their. prosperity. Most of rho'w who complained of the town dues were not Liverpool people, and if they made a for tune they were off to where they came from to spend it ; but. if they chanced to fail they became chaegeabie to the parish. (A laugh.) Not one of them who had come into the court to complain came for anything else but their own benefit. (A - laugh.) Such pe o pl e ' had' no right with the affairs of the town; if he (the witness) went to live in Ireland, he should not want to . vote for Mayors and Bailiffs there, but would be con tent to get an houest living and hold his tongue. (A laugh.) The fact was, Mr. Rethbone and others wanted to annihilate the freemen; but he wished to know what right they had to in terfere.with the charter of Liverpool. The charter had already been violated by the Reform Bill; for the charter said that the Mayor, Bailiffs, and Burgesses of the • town should send mem bers to Parliament; and the rest of the householders had nothing to do with the matter. He was • not surprised that Mr Rathbone wanted to annihilate the C mee'uon Council, as he had heard that he wanted to serve the Hrease of Lord's the same way. -(A laugh.) Probably some black sheep might have crept into the Common Council; and if they had, why not root them out, but not d es t ro y th e Corpor a ti on . w He would suppose a case. (A laugh.) Supposing that a burgess had committed a' murder, 'were •all the Common Councit to be hung for it? (Loud laughter.) 'rho witness, in a very original and eccentric manner, here detailed the manner in which the burgesses of his class were accustomed to enjoy themselves at elections. He said that th e f reemen clubbed their sixpences and shillings together for a bit of merriment; and if they did happen to get drunk, what was that to any body? (Laughter.) He did not see, either, if Mr. Rathbone (who had acknowledged, yester day, to have been handy with bribes) and others-were to sub scribe their money for an election, that the-burgesses should be blamed for it. The witness concluded by stating that the bur gesses had been much maligned by the public press, which had made allegations against them of a most wanton and outrageous character, such as they would find it difficult to prove; that he held his privileges dear to him, and any innovation of which he would resist es though a man put his hand into his pocket for the purpose of robbing him. • Mr. Matthew Dobson Lowndes, the Vestry-clerk, having . been sworn, stat e d th a t h e did not wi s h.t o tak e u p the tim e of the commissioners unnecessarily, but as his name had been mixed up with the parish accounts, he had come forward to give a succinct account of-the emoluments he derived from the parish, and a straightforward denial of the statements made by Dr. Collins on Saturday. One:of the allegations made by Dr. Collins was that the affairs of the parish, were ender the control of the corporate body. Another was . that he (Mr. Lowndes) received about £2,0J0 per annum, whilst his salary was nomi nally only £3OO per annum. The third absurd allegation was, that-there was a confederacy between . himself, the magistrates, and the magistrates' clerk, to issue summonses and warrants for rates in arrear, to increase the, fees for his .(witness's) benefit. All of which allegations he begged leave, unequivocally, to deny. With respect to the allegation of the vestry being under the control of the Corporation, he woad state That no member of-the Common Council had been in the -veStre within his re collection, and he had comtneuced .practice in Liverpool in 1816. The members of the:Coalmen Council had studiously ab stained even from attending the. annual . vestry meetings, at which - nearly all, the inhabitants were assembled. There was only one or two exceptions where the members of the Common Council attended the vestry meetings, but there there occasional meetings..of the vestry, at which the chief magistrate had been, good enough to attend. The occasion was in - February, 1832, when there was an apprehension of the cholera visiting Liver- . pool. A vestry meeting was called for the purpose of voting an adequate sum of money to check the progress of the disease, or to prevent its coming to Liverpool, The application of the poor's-rates for this purpose were, however, frustrated by the inhabitants refusing to allow any money to be voted for such a purpose. About a fortnight subsequent to this meeting it was discovered , that the disease was progressing in various parts of the country, and another meeting was summoned, at which the Mayor, and Mr. Moss, the banker, attended, for the purpose of recommending the voting of a sum of money to be ,applied to the purposes required by the cholera. At this meet ing an opposition was got up chiefly by the instrumentality of Dr. Collins, to prevent this reasonable advance of the . money, and it was not until many days' polling that the . question was carried in the affirmative. From peculiar local circumstances, arising from opposition, the local affairs of the parish for the last two or three years had been the subject of polling in the Sessions-house, and on such occasions the members of the Common Council certainly attended to vote in common with their fellow parishioners; but, in so attending., there was nothing of a political party feeling, althougtea local party feel ing pervaded in a degree similar to other -large towns. What he had thus stated would show that the parish-of Liverpool was not in any way under the control of time Corporation. With respect to his (Mr. Lowndes's) emoluments derived from his situation, he would state that, on the 6th of May, 1830, the in habitants assembled to elect a vestry clerk in the room of Mr. Blackstock, when a resolution wasadoptedthat the clerk should be paid a salary of £3OO per aunum, ler the routine of the busi ness of his office, which routine was to prepare all bonds of in demnity, parish indentures, anti to furnish legal advice to the churchwardens and the magistrates on parish affairs. 'lnc duties of the office were to Be performed personally by the clerk, and not lay deputy. There were three other candidates for the situation ; a poll was demanded, and the result of the election was in his (witness's) favour, and he was elected on the Bth of May, 1830. The commissioners would be aware that the parochial Year terminates on the 25th of'March, and his (wit ness's) bill, up to the 25th of March, from time date of his ap pointment, including the costs of an act of Parliament, directed to he solicited for by the 'parishioners at the vestry before his (witness's) appointment, was £759 135.; the act was opposed, and he had, out of the sum named, to pay £331 15s. 6d. for the expenses of witnesses, counsel fees, and a deputation to London. He had also to pay to the London agent, including the House of Commons fees, the - sum of £223 3s. 1(1; these deductions brought down his emoluments to the suneof £157 14s. 9d., he had also a bill for professional services rendered, which were not included in the duties of his situation, amounting to £l3l 7s. Bd. It had previously been explained to the commis sioners by the Town-clerk, that he (the witness) was entitled, as. Vestry-clerk, to one-half the fees on all documents relative to parish - affairs submitted to the magistrates, such as sum monses and warrants for poor rates, &c., &c. llis proportion of the fees from May -to March the following year amounted to the sum of £330 95., and the 'proportion of his salary for the same period'anioanted to £262; making - the totare - moluntents of his situation during the interval he, had spoken of, the sum of £822 . Is. Id. In the year from the 25th of March, 1831, to March, 1832. his bills were, for appeals 'I; uos 2s. 5d., for prose-• cutions £43 12s. Bd. ' and for general business £2Ol I Is. 3d., from which was to be deducted £94 18s. Bd. for disbursements, leaving the sum of £258 7s. Bd. as the hill of the year, to which was to be added £21.1 6s. 6d. as a portion 'of the magistrates' fees, amid hie salary of £3OO, making au aggregate of £799 45.2 d. The following_ Year his bill for appeals was £llt pis. Ild.; f o r prosecutions £ll2 Gs. 100. The general business bill, in Whisk was included all the extra business required to he done by the passing of time reform act, amounted to £:',so lOse from winch Was to be deducted £lO7 4s. 20. for disbursements. Ilis pro portion of the inegistrates' clerk's fees . fur that year amounted to £3OB Os. till., to which was to he added his salary of 3 , ...300, makiti g an • aggregate of £930 ss. 10., being the largest . . sum he ever received from the parish in . one year. Vt ith regard to th e:a ll ega tion respecting the confederacy to issue suirimoneeS and warren s it was alinoA too absurd to need a formal contradiction. He would, however,' call .the atten tion of the commissioners to the Mode of procedure in such cases. When rates were in arrear, the churchwardens and overseers inspected the rate books for the purpose of ascertaining the defaulters, which, having done, a letter was sent to announce to the individuals, that if they - did not pay their rates within a given time, which was genceelly about a week, a summons -would be taken out against there. Sometime afterwards, if the amount was not forthcoming, summonses were taken out before. a magistrate, and they were issued ; the party then attended the court to state any grounds for not paying. If the summoned party had no gt:ounds for not paying, a time was fixed by the magistrates, varying fron t a week to a month, for payment. The cost of a summons was .2s. Information and warrant cost -Is. The extreme number or warrants talsen out in a year was 140, and the cumber ot'eseeesineuts in the parish was 32,000. Mr. Lowndes concluded his statement by saying that lie thought he had sufficientiy answered the allega tions of Dr. Collins. Had the vestry-clerk a desire to make money by his sit nation, the way to do so would be by litigating appeaes; but it would be seen by the accounts that the sum charged for litigating appeals only averaged £lO5 per year. , By the Commissioners.—Paid for his own offices and clerks. 1)r. Collins denied having stated that there was a confederacy between the magistrates and the vestry-clerk, in order to in crease the latter's bill. He had said that the temptation was great to swell his bill of legal charges, which he had to bring against the parish. Mr. Lowndes had done now what he had re peatedly refused to do in public vestry, viz. to-show a statement of the items in his account, although it had been voted that he should. He (Dr. C.) also denied having stated that the parish of Liverpool was under the coutroul of the Corporation, although if he had doneso, he thought he should not have , been very wrong, as the Corporation bad decidedly an indirect influence over the affairs of the parish—for instance, Mr. Foster one of the family of the Foster's, was churchwarden ' and Mr. Houghton, a Select Vestrym a n, had a r e l a ti ve i n the Common Council. Dr. Col lins then adverted to his opposition to the measure for voting a .sum of money for the purposes of the eholera, and said that his• opposition was riot factious nor inhumane; Ise- had opposed it on :the grounds of the parish having no legal power to exact such a ,rate, which was subsequently shown by Lord Lansdowne-passing an act.empowering parishes to levy a rate for that purpose. He had volunteered his professional services when the cholera was raging, and had entered the dwellingsof infected persons, which .showed that it was riot a feeling of inhumanity, with which he had been charged, that caused - his oppositioudo the local mea sure. He thought that whilst persons were allowed to vote on parish affairs on the six-vote system, parochial matters were all bubble and nonsense. Dr. Collins concluded by stating that. Mr. Robert Turner had some further and - more valuable infor mation to communicate. _ b'lr. Robert Turner being sworn, stilted that he had formerly exercised the profession of a builder in Liverpool, but he was at present a common brewer in Chester. He had formerly resided six or seven years in Liverpool, and his family now resided in West Derby. "The ommissioners inquired whether the evidence he was about to give applied to the Corporation ? Mr. Turner replied, that he would endeavour to keep to that point. He was last year one of the honorary overseers of the parish (who ar,e appointed annually by the rate - -payers), and during the time he was in office, he was requested by the bur gesses in the Liverpool workhouse to use what influence he possessed to obtain for those burgesses who were in the work house an asyleuum, to he provided out of the Corporation funds, in order that they might no longer be burdensome to the rate payers. He mentioned to them that he had no influence with the Corporation of Liverpool, but promised to mention the sub ject to several of the Select Vestry, which lie did, one of whom was Mr. John Foster, the present churchwarden. Th e com plaint of the burgesses was, that their food was so scanty as not to be sutEcient to support themselves, and they prayed to be removed to some place where they might sustain themselves in their declining days. He held in his hand an account of the week's consumption of food given to the burgesses in the work house, to show that they had not been treated as they ought to have been. Mr. Duncan, the solicitor, here rose and said, that he came to the court to endeavour to facilitate the inquiry into the Cor poration, and, from the part he had taken, it could not be said that he was an abettor of abuses; but he did think that the manner in which they were proceeding was irrelevant to the inquiry, which appeared to be merging into an inquiry into parish abuses. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Commissioner Wilkinson was of opinion that the witness was not confining himself to the Corporation. Mr. Foster, the churchwarden, said that last year his Majesty's commissioners were in Liverpool inquiring into parish abuses, and their report had been made. (Hear.) Mr. Duncan remarked that the only possible way the parish were connected with the Corporation was there being pauper burgesses in the Workhouse; but he did not see that the matter could at all connect itself with the Corporation inquiry. (Hear.) Mr. Turner said that he was not a lawyer nor a counsellor, and perhaps could not arrive at the point so soon as those gen tlemen; but he thought if he was suffered to go on in his own roundabout way, that he should be enabled to connect his evi dence with the Corporation. Mr. Commissioner Wilkinson replied that the court could not hear him on parish affairs. . . Mr. 'l s omer again attempted to be heard amiatt tokens of great nisapprohation, - but he at letig.it netlite:l, iqUichtditits.by Saying the subject Was a sore one wijt Mr. roster, for he wag prepared to show what eitorinod, - tritelile. were pritetivea in the tv orkhouse. - Dr. Collins said that the commissions appointNi to inquire into parish atistirs took the evidence 'aiitiot.t eNtniArely - from the cniii...hwardens; Mr. Foster, the churchwarden, denied that sorb was the fact. Mr. bowndes, the vestry-elm k. in rep!) , to a statement made by Dr. Collins, said, twit ne nev:•r refused to give the items of his accounts to the parishioners. lie had rmuseu ejs ti.niw them to be printed, whicn ha, been su_gested to toe vestry by 1)1.. Cabins. Ile had rer aiedly offered to submit his bil.s to any person competent to give an opinion of their fairness. ( Ii Mr. Parnell, the Duck-master, here asked tile Town-clerk if the inilividna;s whom he had wisned to he sent tor, and who he had named in a letter, were present? 'Lie Town•clerlyepiied that they had not been cent for. Mr. Purnell then stated that he wished to ask Mr. brown. whether the report in the newspapers, pm piirting to be the ex amination of Mr. Wiiiiain Brown, was moreet t (The Wit "SS • here read the report as.be:ore given, relative to the statement - of Mr. Brown, that the witness hail been su.peaded for receiv ing bribes, but owing to his .ar,ge fainiiy he lout been reinstated in his situation.) Mr. Brown, 'having heard the report read, thought it was sithstan tially. correct. \lr. Purnell here said, tint charac*er was at stake fr.lin what had appeared in the new,p.ipe.r,, he begged leave to state, unequivocaliy, how he had mon,y irom Williatn and James Brown. Mr. Brown stated, in explanation, that a gentleman upon the Dock Committee, had asked him why tie utd not vote ou the oc casion in the Dock Committee, when the - subject of the dis missal of the Dock-masters was brought before die Committee; and he hAd stated, that it was in consequence of the fees havlng, previous to this time, been given, as a matter of course, by'the • merchants generally. He had n.i knowledge for what the suns of £5O was given, and his junior p trtner would attend the cour, and state that no money had beet given since tin period a.- luded to by Mr. Purnell, for any such purposes as bribes. He was altogether against die money being given, as it was given by his junior partner, Mr. FrOdsham. Mr. Purnell said that he had been questioned about receiving £5O from Messrs. Brown, and he now stated nistinctly that he did receive £5O from that firm; a check Was given hiin for the amount, and it was cashed at Arthur Ileywu:nl and Co.'s. Mr. Brown explained that the money was given in 1825, be fore he was member of the Dock Committee, but he was norant of the tact until informed of it by his partner. lie was not aware fur what purpose the £5O was paid. Mr. Purnell remarked that, limn the conversations he had had with Mr. Brown, he was convinced that that gentleman was as welt acquainted with the circumstance as any. one in the' firm; even the clerks in the otlice of Mr. Brown.knew for what. the money had been paid.. • . . Mr. Commissioner Wilkinson said the subject appeared to him a personal matter, with which the court had nothing to do. Mr. Purnell said his character had been impugned, and he thought he had a right to an explanation, and if he could not clear himself from the charges which removed him from the Prince's Dock, he would not - wish the Dock Committee to retaia him another hour in their service. Merchants and brokers. when he was at the. Prince's Dock, were couttimallv urging him to procure their ships berths, which he found great Ifficuity in doing, as there was no George's Dock nor iiing's Dock open - at the time. Messrs. William and James Brown always said he must get their vessels in, and Mr. Frodsbam, from Messrs. Brown's, used frequently to urge bier to get their vessels into port, and he was anxious tti attend to the interests of the Dock Estate first. Mr. Purnell was here going into a long statement of the trans• actions between him and Messrs. Brown, but was stopped by the commissioner, who .declined going into the investigatioi., and Mr. Purnell subsepently left the court, evidently disap pointed at not having an opportunity ofvlearing his character. Lieutenant Watson, the superintendent of the- telegraph. iu contradiction to a statement made by Lieutenant -Morrison on the subject of emolument derived from the telegraph, denies that he received a sixpence from the West India Association; but admitted that he had a sum of money. voted to him annually by the American Chamber of Commerce for information sup plied, which stun had, previously to the erection of the tele graph, been voted to toe harbour master of Holyhead, who used to supply the information by letter. The sum was gra tuitous, and could be taken away any time The fact of the Chamber of Commerce giving hint the money . was an assurance that the management of the telegraph was satisfactory to them. The statement of his clerk of the number of flags sold was about correct, but he'thought it was not a matte& for the court to in quire into. • Dr. M`lutyre - expressed a wish to ask a few questions re specting the Coroner's court, and in doing so he disclaimed any intention of eas.ing 'the slightest reflection on - the Coroner or the court. He Wen asked the Town-clerk if it was the practice for medical men who gave evidence before the Coroner to receive a fee, and was answered that it was. In cases of dissection of the body, the surgeon was paid £2 25., and when that operation was not required, El h. He then asked whether, in cases of sudden death, where the medical man gave in a certificate that an inquest was unnecessary, the fee was paid. • The Town-clerk replied it was sometimes, but not frequently. The - Coroner had a right to choose his own surgeon to inspect the bodies, and the present-Coroner employed Mr. Lockwood. Wheii he (the Town-clerk) was bailiff, he employed a Mt. Davis, having .previously been satisfied of his ability. In n cases out of ten the same person was employed to examine the bodies. It was the practice at Manchester and other places to employ one individual. Dr. M:lntyre said that he was unacquainted with the gen tleman employed by the Coroner, and he had not the slightest feeling whatever against that gentleman; but he thinks that: where a medical man had paid great attention to a case, and had become much interested in it, he was the most tit person to give evidence. Mr. •Jaines Aspinall stated that when he was Coroner, he invariabi'y inquired if a surgeon had attended the case, and - •he had'he never removed him. Mr.,Rosson, the barrister, here handed an estimate of ale . whole Catholic, population within the Parliamentary borough .of Liverpool. He then entered into a long statement of the . means by which he obtained the information, having been . de.-,. Muted by the Catholic Association, Friar to the 'passing 'of the. ie:ief bill, to procure such information. It appeared that the present Catholic_ population was about 62. AX). We have not room tor the learned gentleman's speech and lengthy statement, Mr. .1. Mallabv, solicitor to F. R. Price, Esq., stated, ins reference to th'e evidence given the other day by Wardieworth.. a boatman, who had said that there was au ancient right of. ferry to Woodside, that such was not the case. The ferry had, 'been built by Mr. Price, at a cost of £12,000, and was his ea-' elusive property. Mali the ferry and - the Linding were they privilege of Mr. Price, which had never been disputed in a court of law by the.public. Mr. llolton,thouglit that the Corporation had purchased thy.. right of ferry from the Sefton fatuity ; anu his impression was.. that the public had a right of feriy and a right of latiaing on Mr. Price's estate. • • Mr. Mallahv said that he was mistaken. • • said, that he was sorry he bad been the cause of giving pain to the Recorder. The 'Recorder had disclaimed owing his election to any family influence whatever, as his most intimate friends in the council were opposed to his appointment. He (Mr. Bolton) had no intention of attacking inuividuals, but the system. He believed the worthy Recorder had discharged his duties in the most impartial manner since his appointment to the office, and had never given a vote either for a Mayor or a member of Parliament. He would also taks the opportunity of stating that, at the test general election; the late Atayor, llorsfah, had not given his vote, neither, LA the senior Coalmen Councilman, - nor the receivers of tots u .dues and stamps. He also wished to,bear his testimony to the accu rate and clear manner in which the accounts of the Corporation • are kept. (Applause.) Mr. Henry Duncan, M.D., examined.—The great number of the poor inhabitants of Liverpool reside in cellars, whi, h were generallyalamp and extremely. ill ventilated, the tops of the cellar doors being mostly on a level with the' street, so as not to allow the admission of air. A large proportion of the inhabitants lived in courts, which aie narrow, ttic admission iuio which wa's by a low and narrow archway; they were built up at the end, so as not to allow a free passage of air. 'lts courts,upon an average, Contained six houses, thickly populated, and there was out more than a square y and of open space for each inhabitant. Dirt and filth of every kind was eongre- - gated in these courts, and in cases of contagious disease it- ra pullv spreads through the court. In the act applied for- in 183 i powers were applied to to be vested in the hands of the Corporation to prevent any cellar being inhabited that was not raised above the curb -stone, and to compel the. landlordt whitewash the cellars at certain petiod:. There were about 20,000 of the inhabitants who resided in these cellars. If these powers were invested in the hands of the Corporation, or op- 7 plied for the health and comfort of the inhabitants, he thought they would be materially improved, and he thought that the . health of the inhabitants might be traced to the nature of their habitations. He derived his means of knowledge from the si-: tuation he held for four years as an assistant in the Noithetit Dispensary. Upon the whole he thought, notwithstanding the inconveniences, that the health of the population was as good at in most towns of a similar size. A gentleman inquired from Mr. Dnncan, tthetlwr the in • crease of ill health ainongsi. the lower orders did not arise from • spirit drinking. Nlr. Duncan replied, that in a great measure another class of disease was generate.: by ardent ;Tit especially ainorisst the . females. Mr. Foster, the surveyor, said the clauses in the-building aet alluded to by Al r. Duncan had met with so mual opposition from the owners of properly, that they were obliged to w•itlr draw them rather than have nu bill. lie thought the bill was certainly inefficient. lie thought that Mr. Duncan had over-: slated the number of persons who lived in cellars and courts. Dr. Duncan replied, that he included Toxteth-park. Several persons here handed iu letters of complamt to the commissioners, but it being now three o'clock they deterred reading them until this da),aud the court was adjourned. 1? AILWAYS. Among the railways which have been already commenced. anti those winch are in contemplation, and for the carrying. of which into effect application for pincers is to he made to Par liament at the commencement of the approaching session, are the following : • •• Application is to be made in the ensuing session to extrnit the tine of the (hand Junction - Raiii‘av, b ud by means or a • tunnel to connect it with the London and Birmingham Railway at the termination of the line of the latter. -Application is also_ to be made for a bid to authorise the construction of ten feet wide of the carriage way or waste ground ou the side of tha turnpike roads from Islington to Birmingham, into a haul and, solid road for locomotive steam carriages. It is also intended to apply to Parliament next cession, for an act for a railway from lieworth to South Shields, terminating at the Mill-darn. The:object of the rai:wav is to connect South Shields with that branch of the Newcastle and Carlisle It ailway..' intended to be made from Blaydon to GateAead and flehburn., It is in contemplation to form a railway from Durham to Sunderland, and the same company are projecting another. railway from Sunderland to a portion of the estate of T. R. G. Firaddvil, Esq.. called Moir High -Hold, half a mile west of his colliery at South Betton. By this railroad, and a projected • branch from it to the ilartlepoorßailway, coals may lie brought to Sunderland bout the collieries of South Helton, Haswell, and Thornlev. - ; The Newcastle and Carlisle Railway goes on satisfactorily and its operatious are approaching neater Car'.is , .e. The ex tensive viaduct at Corbvbeck is .completeil, and the stupeudou bridge over the Eden at Wetheral is expected to have its are covered in in a week or two. The excavation at the Conran hills is far on towards completion. A meeting of the proprietors of the Wigan Branch Railway, also of the Preston and Wigan Railway, for the purpose of. coming to a final arrangement for incotnilliting the two under takings in one concern, under the name of the North Union Railway Company, was held in Liverpool on Wednesday week. Perfect unanimity and good feeling prevailed amongst the re spective parties, and resolutions were passed authorising an • application to Parliament for an act, founded on a draught ci ahili produced at the meeting. r r ,a 11