The Sun. — London, England, 1847-12-10 00:00:00

LOUVAIN A LA SAMBRE RAILWAY. _ A meeting of the shareholders of this company, consequent on the refusal of the directors to afford full information as to the affairs of the company to the pro prietors, was held yesterday at the London Tavern. Mr. BELL was moved to the chair, and said, that as it was considered that the directors had withheld certain information from the shareholders as to their affairs, it was, therefore, deemed advisable to form a committee to wait on the directors and to re quest them to hold a meeting for the purpose of com municating the information required. This course the directors refused to adopt, on the ground that there were bat three of the directors in London. A deputation appointed by the shareholders then went to Belgium and instituted the necessary inquiries into all the circumstances, which they did according to the best of their abillity. That committee had made a report which, if the shareholders required, they would submit to the meeting, but this report was not unanimously agreed to. A farther application was made to the directors, and they had succeeded in getting an engagement from them that the moment Mr. Sharman, the director in Belgium, returned they would call a public meet ing and afford the information required, but that under any circumstances they would call a public meeting before the Ist of next February, sad that the shares would not be forfeited before that period. Under those circumstances, it would be for the meeting to determine whether the report should be read, but in his opinion it would be better not to adopt that course. A long discussion as to the propriety of the informa tion being submitted to the meeting then took place, which ended in a resolution to that effect being carried by a large majority. Mr. ABRAHAMS then entered into a lengthened state ment, which reflected very strongly on the management of the directors; and after some further discussion the meeting separated. LONDONDERRYandENNISKILLEN RAILWAY. A spacial general meeting of the proprietors of the Londunderry and Enniskillen Railway was held yester day, at the offices of the company, in Church-passage, Guildhall, for the purpose of receiving the report of a select committee of the shareholders, appointed to exa mine into the truth of the charges preferred by the local directors against the officiating staff in London.—Mr. J. G. Frith in the chair. The report stated that the committee considered it unnecessary to express any opinion upon the charges preferred against the London directors, but thought it better to lay before the shareholders the present state of the affairs of the concern. The liabilities of the company for the cost of the line from Londonderry to Strabane were as follows, viz. : —Parliamentary and legal expenses, interest to shareholders, direc tors' salaries, office expenses, &e., 24,5241. 4s. 9d.; cost of making the line; carriages, working stock, engi neering, 170,9651. 4s. 9d.—making a total of 195,4891. 13s. 9d. To meet these liabilities, calls had been pail to the extent of 144,4751. 9s. 9d., leaving a balance of 51,014/. 4s. to be provided for; but this balance in cluded a disputed claim of 26,000/. The committee recommended that the present allowance to the directors of 800/. per annum should be reduced to 300/. ; the two auditors salaries from 301. each to 101. ; and that the secretary's salary be reduced 501. The committee also suggested that the services of the engineer and superintendent of traffic in Derry should be dispensed with. Hitherto the expenses of working the line had exceeded the receipts, but the committee considered that 1 9 4 . th care and economy, the line might ultimately be r aade to pay. There could be no doubt that the extension of the line from Strabane to Oinagb, or even to Newton- Stewart, would contribute most materially to develop the resources of the district; and the committee recom mended that-this extension should eventually be taken into consideration. Mr. BATES proposed that the report should be adopted at once; but The CHAIRMAN considered it was hardly fair that the directors should be required, on so short a notice, to adopt the recommendations of the report. and he, there fore, moved that the question of passing the report should be adjourned till a future day. Eventually it was agreed that the meeting should stand adjourned till Saturday, the 18th inst. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, Dec. 9. (Sittings at Nisi Prius at Guildhall, before the CHIEF JusncE and a Common Jury.) BUSHELL V. WEISS. Mr. COCK BURN, for the defence, submitted that the charge of ten guineas per day was most exorbitant, and that the plaintiff was only entitled to receive the ordi nary remuneration given to witnesses when called to give evidence before the Standing Orders' Committee. He also submitted that the solicitors were only at liberty to engage the plaintiff as a witness, and as such he was en titled to receive compensation from the defendant, but they had no authority to make him engineer in chief with out the concurrence of the company. The Learned Counsel then stated that the plaintiff was entitled to no more than was given to an ordinary surveyor, which was at the rate of two or three guineas a day. Mr. Stephens, an engineer, and other witnesses, were called on the part of the defendant, and stated that the highest sum paid to surveyors for attending the Railway Committees, in 1845, was five guineas per day, and that the usual sum was two guineas per day. He, how ever, admitted that an engineer in chief was entitled to ten guineas. The CHIEF JUSTICE having summed up, The jury returned a verdict for the plaintiff for 851. SHERIFFS' COURT, Dec. 9. (Before Mr. Under• Sheriff BIRCLIELL.) PROVI3 V. CULL. The plaintiff sued as the pnblic•officer of the Wilts and Dorset Banking Company a t D orc he s t e r. Defendant is a solicitor at the same place. The action was brought to recover the sum of 961. 4s. sd. for mone) lent and in terest. The defendant allowed judgment to go by default. Mr. Andrews, solicitor to the company, proved an admission of the amount due, and the jury gave a ver dict for the amount claimed. BOURNE V. BROAD. This was an action brought to recover the sum of 141. 10s. for the hoard and lodging of defendant's wife, and for medical attendance, &c. 1 I's. 8, that the cati o , t, t bank i upt tvvelv o me T 6 s i k am havio g offs meet" t rtg for sere Iva rule 3-court, ►ebti to t not lung of al Mr. Montague Chambers, Q.C., and Mr. Hayes ap peared for the plaintiff; and Mr. Cockburn, Q.C., and Mr. Meymott for the defendant. The plaintiff in this case was an engineer, and the defendant one of the provisional committee of the Londc.n and Birmingham Extension Railway Com pany., which was formed in 1845, for the pur pose of constructing a railway from Northamp ton, by Daventry, to Warwick, and the action Weal - brought to recover the sum of 2061. 18s., alleged to be 'due to him for attending as a witness, to give evidence be' Fore the Standing Orders' Committee in respect of that ompany. It appears that the plaintiff who had been ' employed in surveying a portion of the line was sum moned to London on the 4th of Marth, 1840, by the so licitors to the company, Messrs. Wright and Hanbury, to give evidence before the Committee in consequence of some disputes which had grown up between Mr. Pritchard, the engineer in chief, and the company, the result of which was, that Nil-. Pritchard declined to come forward to support the Bill in Parliament. The plain tiff was told that he must be prepared to act as engineer in chief, if Mr. Pritchard continued to persist in his determinatioa, and he was examined in that capacity o❑ the 30th of March. His charge against the company, for attending as a witness, was at the rate of ten gui neas a day. It was stated by a witness, that Mr. Pritchard took away the briefs which had been prepared in support of the Bill, and refused to return them; and the plaintiff was employed to draw up additional ones, which it was alleged could not have been prepared without the plaintiff's assistance. It was admitted that the defendant was a provisional committeeman of the company, and that he was liable for any reasonable sum which the plaintiff might be en titled to. It appeared by the evidence that the plaintiff and his wife were married in December, 1843. In February last. Mrs. Broad, who was then residing at Dorking, was taken ill with a complaint of the liver, and the plaintiff's wife, who is her aunt, recommended her re moval to London for the benefit of medical attendance, and she was accordingly removed to plaintiff's house, Churton-street, Pimlico. Dr. Ord was called in, and attended her till June, when she was pronounced convalescent. The present demand was for 10s. a week for board and lodging, and 71. for physician's fees, &c. For the defendant it was contended that this amounted to i separation, for defendant's wife had been living with plaintiff for six months, d ur i ng w hi c h time defendant never even went to the house, nor had he ever given PAY Authority for the separation; therefore, there was no Case to to the The - llNsitit-g lirY. e tt is e h mt to go to the considered that there was Evidence was the n adduced with a view of showing that defendant's wif e as addicted to drinking, and that she le ft the house of and hi s on the recommenda lion of the plaintiff mrs. B. N o v u if r e, but that defendant said she: should not, for ne said she would take l i b r rictht girl of her, and Mrs. Broad with her, a n d „ kc , (defendant). s %he should be no expense to . t ;he was not under medic trega.t akiiirliret:adt -Dorking for beldiert returned ti ro months previously to leavin ht ie since. Plaintiff had said she and was living under the protection a a gent t i his honed T he UNDER-SHERIFF, in addressing the ju e r m v an ak . ia ; the defendant's wife had left without the asse nt ' - of her husb and, be was not liable ; but if, on the contrary, he Lad, ,ssented, he would be respoasible for any necessatie, supp; ied to her. Her subsequent conduct—supposing it to Le • true that she was living with another party—did not b ?al- on the present case. Th 4 jury, after being locked up, gave a verdict for Si. 55.. . money oat of pocket. 7OURT OF BANICRUP7'CY, Dec. 9. (Before Mr. Commissioner FONBLANQUE.) IN RE HANDLEY, A BUILDER.. ankrupt came up for h is last examination. irgood, for the assignees, opposed on the ground accounts were unsatisfactory - , and. on his appit he Court adjourned the case, and directed the to furnish a cash account commencing at least .nths prinr to the date of the fiat. :efore Mr. Commissioner SHEPHERD.) BANKRUFTCY OF ROUGEHONT BROTHERS. krupt, George Rougemont, was a merchant, yesin Broad-street • buildings. This was a the choice of assignees. no opposition, and Mr. R. Glelm, of ller- Lombard-street, was chosen assignee. he amount of about 1,5001. werepruved ' but my interest occurred during the meeting. THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY k VEXING, DECEMBER 10. 1847. the second reading of the Government measure for the prevention of crime in Ireland might be proceeded with. The Nobe Lord the Member for Lynn's motion stood first on the paper, but the Noble Lord had been prevailed upon not to bring it forward to-night, and he had to appeal to the Hon. Member for Youghal not to proceed with his motion, which accident had placed first on the list.—(Hear.) Mr. C. ANSTY said if his motion had related to any measure before the House he would gladly have complied with the request of the Right Hon. Baronet.—(oh, oh.) . _ _ . . . Mr. HUME said he had a motion which stood next to that of the Honourable Mem ber for Youghal, and to which he attached considerable importance, but, considering the necessity for passing the Bill, to which allusion had been made, without delay, and considering, too, that Par liament had been oath(' together much earlier than usual solely for that purpose, he would gladly post pone it, and he hoped the Hon. Member for Youghal would postpone his.—(Cheers.) Mr. C. ANSTY said if it were the wish of the House that he should not proceed with his motion he would readily give way.—(Hear, hear.) He had twice given notice of his motion, and he was par ticularly anxious to bring it forward, but of course he could not think of doing so if it were calculated to bring him into an unseemly conflict with the House.—(Hear, hear.) Sir G. GREY said he felt extremely indebted to the Hon. Member for giving way. RAILWAYS BILL. Mr. SPOONER inquired when the Government intended to proceed with the Railways Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that he had stated on a former occasion, that before he proceeded further with the Bill, he should have the clauses printed, and laid on the table, in order that Hon. Members might be fully informed of the nature of the measure before it was set down for discussion. He should redeem that, as he hoped he had reJeemed every other promise he had made to the House.—(Hear.) The Government did not intend to proceed with any measure which would in any way interfere with the progress of the Bill for the suppression of crime in Ireland.—(lreland.) INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT, Dec. 9. (Before the Chief Commissioner.) IN RE JAMES DANIEL O'CONNELL. The insolvent was a law clerk, and was in the re uipt of a salary of 200/. per annum. His debts amounted to 8001. Mr. Wigner, a draper and upholsterer, opposed on the ground that the insolvent had recently obtained furniture and clothes for himself and his wife, on the representation that he was about to enter upon a lucra tive situation, and could shortly pay him all, being at the time very largely in debt. The case occupied the Court some time, but the in solvent was ultimately granted protection on his con senting to devote 15/. a year for the payment of his creditors. IN RE HENRY HICKS HARPER. On this case I;eing called on, a number of creditors appeared to oppose, but as the insolvent when summoned did not think proper to show himself, his petition was ordered to be struck off the paper. , BLOOMSBURY COUNTY COURT, Dec. 9. (Before D. D. HEATH, Esq., Judge.) CHA.MBERi V. PETERS.-1 SURGEON COMMITTED FOR FORTY DAYS. In this case the plaintiff, a tailor, sought to recover from the defendant, a surgeon, the sum of 5L ss. for goods sold and delivered. The present was a judgment order, granted in July last, before which time, on the case being first heard, defendant had been ordered to pay directly, but had neglected to do so. Defendant now said that the order had only been received by him a fortnight ago, and three weeks before that he sent a friend to the plaintiff to offer him 51. in lieu of the debt and costs, which he refused to take. He was not now prepared to pay it, besides which the clothes sup plied had not turned out as warranted. The plaintiff said that a person came to him and offered him 3L for the debt, telling him that defendant was going to America. He refused tojtake it ; and, subsequently ascertainining that the story about going to America was false, he caused the order to be served upon him. The defendant said he was a surgeon, but not in practice. He had been supported by an independency. JUDGE—You might have proceeded against the plain tiff for a false warranty of his goods, and as you do not offer any terms, I shall order your committal to prison. An order was then made out for defendant's commit ment for forty days, which will be put in force on Tuesday, unless in the interim he arranges with the WHITECHAPEL COUNTY COURT, Dec. 9. (Before Sergeant MANNING.) WHEATLEY V. LANCASTER-AN OMNIBUS DRIVER NOT USING THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD. This was an action brought by Mr. T. Wheatley, omnibus proprietor, of Greenwich, to recover from the defendant, a charcoal-burner, of Rosemary-lane, 81. 65., for damages done to his omnibus, alleged to have been caused by the negligent driving of the defendant. This case had been several times before the Lord Mayor, at the Mansion-house, and the defendant was charged with having furiously and negligently driven the shafts of his cart against the panel of Wheatley's omnibus, and caused damages to the amount sued for ; but in consequence of the plaintiff not proving wilful damage, it was dis missed. In October last a driver in the employ of the complainant was driving his omnibus near London bridge ; he stopped and put down a passenger. The defendant, who was proceeding in a contrary direction, came in contact with the omnibus, and the shafts of the cart struck the panel, and a large hole was made. The defendant denied that he was driving improperly, and said the driver was on the wrong side of the road. A number of omnibus d r i vers were i n th e h a bit of stop ping and loitering near the spot, and it was with great difficulty that the various vehicles could pass each other. The Learned JUDGE said if the driver thought proper to cross over to the wrong side of the road, when there was not room for him to do so, he must put up with the consequences. He could not interfere in this case, and the plaintiff must be nonsuited. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. The LORD MAYOR stated, that he had received a long account of alleged swindling transactions by a young man named John William Jones, transmitted to him by Mr. Bovill, the Secretary to the 'United Brethren called " Moravians," at Brighton. It was evident, his Lord. ship said, that the person who called himself Jones was a swindler. John William Jones, who is, according to the history thus given of him, a native of St. Kitt's, in the West Indies, has been going about and levying con tributions upon the public by means of details of ship- wreck disasters. He represents himself as being enti tled to enormous wealth, now lying in the Bank of England, but incapable of being touched until a satis factory personal identification of him shall have taken place. The manner in which he became acquainted with Mr. Bovill was singular, and might have excited suspicion in the mind of any person acquainted with the ingenious devices of the present race of impostors. Jones told that gentleman that as he passed by Trinity Chapel. in Ship-street, Brighton, he saw on the board before the door a notice to the effect that a meeting would be held at the Town-hall, in aid of the United Brethren called Mora. vians, and that having been a friend of these missionaries in the island of St. Kitt's, and presented them with a large sum of money, he thought that he might derive some advantage at that moment from his connexion with them. He found Mr. Bovill to be the secretary, dined with him, borrowed money and clothes of him, and was recommended to the warm notice of others, to whose liberality he became also indebted. Mr. Bovill writes thus of the individual whom he calls upon the Lord Mayor to expose for the sake of the community : " I gave credit (alas! in an evil hour,) to his assertions of his misfortunes, and coupled as they were with the apt quotations from Holy Writ I could not reject them without violence to my feelings, and I yielded to the in fluence of what has proved to be a misplaced humanity and confidence in the truth of his narrative, and so I fell a victim to this swindler." The following is one of the clalia of letters which ope rated upon the benevolent feelings of Mr. Bovill Brighton, Wednesday Evening. " Dearest Friend,—Language c annot on any account inform you of my sincere thanks to you for your ex cessive kindness to your unfortunate West India friend, but as the Almighty sent his beloved Son into the world to save sinners, even so has he &mit you to my relief in this our time of need ; but as I s.vited yesterday to you, that the holy psalmist David exp rt.sses in the 18tk verse of the 9th Psalm, with these most solemn and impres sive words—' The needy shall not always be forgotten, nor the expectation of the poor perish for ever.' How beautiful are the words of the hot', psalmist in another of his chapters! How impressive are these words— ' How long wilt thou forget me, 0 Lord ? For ever ? How long wilt thou hide thy face, from me ? But glory to him who alone can order the vast ocean to rise and subdue the powers of men!' God, in his tender mercy to mankind, has promised salvation to us all. In an other remarkable part of our Lr.oly Scripture, we are told, that whom the Lord 16 veth chasteneth ;' therefore it is for my good, fo r his thoughts are not my thoughts, neither are his wa . vs my ways.' Saith the holy prophet Isaiah, Hot v wonderful are the works of the Almighty to his eret "tures here on earth.' But language cannot in any wa y express my sincere thanks to you and your dear wife for your charitable feelings to the unfortunate Kitts fonian. I must con clude in informing you that I saw the lady you sent me to last night, and receiveg money from her. " May my prayers ascend to ti le Almighty in behalf of yourself, wife, and children; likewise in the behalf of all our united brethren aad fellow creatures. Con cluding with kind regards to your ;elf, wife, and family, I remain, with due respect, yours in the Lord, " JOHN W. JONES." TheLeup MAYOR said, that in all. probability Mr. John William Jones, who, it appeared,. had been for three years living upon wrecks produce sc l by his imagination, would be helped to a troublesome r it etoriety by the press, and soon be introduced to the chiol! magistrate of Lon don through the intervention of tl .at active body, the Mendicity Society. WORSHIP-STIOET. Rowland Scroggs Herring, seer a tary to the Lodges Nos. 11 and 12 of the Loyal Unite d Friends Benefit So ciety, was charged with having obt a fined numerous sums of money by means of forged chi ;4 Ines and fraudulent representations from the treasurers to the above insti tution. A solicitor who attended for the ,prisoner urged the magistrate to accept bail for his fut ttt e •appearance, but Mr. CoTflNoa&j positively ref! Is A to accede to his request, and ordered the prisoner tc• be remanded for a week. . THAMES. Elizabeth Bailey, a middle-aged . •woman, who carries on the business of a waistcoat mak( m in Thomas-street, Back Church-lane, St. George's-in -t It e-East, was brought before Mr. Ballantine, 'charged wi ith assaulting a girl named Martha Mitchell, aged 14 y' nsrs. A certificate from the house-sur g eon of the London Hospital was put in, stating that t b e girl Mitchell was in great danger from contusions about the head and body. It appeared from the statement of Kelly, police-con stable 119 H, that the girl Mitchell: was in the service of the prisoner, who had frequently .beaten her in a very savage manner, and was in the pr a ctice of placing the girl against the wall and beating her with her clenched fists. Oa Wednesday night the wild made a complaint to two women that her mistress b ad made a brutal as sault upon her, and nearly pulled I ter ears off. The girl was then in great pain and bleedi) al ' r from the ears. She Was taken to the surgery of Mr. Garrett in the New road, St. doiffieficgerusredoffrthome _ St. George's, who advised h.( T immediate removal to the London Hospital. It was at ,certained by the me dicalgiti).irnsl a,lsanrilion-mg ;,raiolesile tihnesteigtuetictson of t .baltohwesr face a n d and sns c ratches tn neck a inflicted by er her mistress, and that h el? ears were swollen to the girl was i n d anger house and took her i nto she knew she had " v al size, and were dry Is dfully lacerated. The a severe p: tins in her back and into custody. ; kicks. On recy living information that ill-used dishonest, and had acted She then stated that Kelly wi ,tit to the prisoner's s r as ui th e e the girl, INho she declared was sequently took the ver yprisoner ,unug r, ttefully. and attempted to ' that the girl was in Mitchell, who identified her misty —t u .bedside of the girl gi piC r e l re vv slol e yn ll sw , u b hb u o l had committed the outrage Upon ti;e4 pull her ears off. Kelly also eta ted danger of losing her ears. The prisoner, in defence, said she led a very indolent girl and had more than once robbed her.. she was sorry to state that she -w as Mr. BALLANTINE said this was a to tost aggravated case of cruelty. The prisoner first att(am; pted to pull one o f Hehad never the girl's ears off and t hen the otht I' • heard of more atrocious cruelty. The prisoner said she had no , hate ra tion whatever to injure the girl to such a serious exam t. Mr. BALLANTINE said the eondtse t of t he prisoner was quite shocking, and that it was q t present doubtful whether the girl would live or die. There 'was every probability, at least, that she would lose her ears, and the prisoner forsooth declared she had no intention to hurt the girl He remanded the prisoner for a weak. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS, Dec. 9. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, in the absence of the Lord Chancellor, took his seat on the Woolsack shortly after Five o'clock. MINISTERS' MONEY (IRELAND). Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition fro n Cork, praying for some substitute for ministers' money in Ireland. Lord MONTEAGLE suggested that the pay ment of ministers' money should be commuted in the same manner as the payment of tithes had been commuted in Ireland, and suggested that a Committee should be appointed to consider the subject. Lord STANLEY admitted that it would be desirable to commute the payment of ministers' money , in some manner. It was a tax laid upon house pro perty, payable by the occupier; it might be more convenient to levy it upon the owner, but it would make no real difference, inasmuch as the owner would demand a higher rate. Various attempts had been made to have a new valuation for levying the amount, but the objection always made was that it would be taking a burden off the shoulders of one set of persons to put it on those of another; besides, if it were made a land lord's tax, it would be exceedingly difficult in many instances to get at the landlord. He hoped the present plan of levying it would not be aban doned until an equitable substitute for it had been discovered. _ _ The Earl of ST. GERMANS thought there would be great practical difficulties in levying the tax on owners instead of occupiers. JEWISH EMANCIPATION. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the Protestant Dissenters of Lancashire praying for a removal of civil disabilities from the Jews. SPIRITUAL DESTITUTION. The Bishop of EXETER presented a petition corn plaining of the spiritual destituton of Devonport. IRISH OUTRAGES. Lord FARNHAM drew the attention of their Lordships to a communication from a person whose name he would not mention, suggesting the necessity of a more efficient and stringent measure of coercion for Ireland. Ile would not mention the name, be cause if he did so the writer would afford another instance of the truth that life was not worth one day's purchase in Ireland. He had communicated the name to the Noble Marquis. (The Noble Lord then read an account of the assas sination of the Rev. J. Lloyd.) He took that oppor tunity of doing justice to the Rev. Mr. King, a Catholic clergyman of that neighbourhood, who had exerted himself to the utmost to suppress these out rages. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had seen the letter, and considered the writer as one of the highest authorities, and whose name, if produced, would com mand the entire confidence of their Lordships as to any statement he might make. COMMERCIAL DISTRESS. The NOBLE MARQUIS then laid upon the table cer tain papers illustrative of the monetary state of the eountry, and moved that they be referred to the Committee on Commercial Distress.—Agreed to. Their Lordships then adjourned until Monday. ROUSE OF COMMONS, Dee. 9. The Sr➢Aazß took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. Mackinnon and two other Honourable Mem bers took the usual oaths and their seats. NEW WRIT. A new writ was ordered to be issued for the borough of Weymouth for the election of a Member to serve in Parliament in the room of Mr. Christie, who had accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. RAJA OF SATTARA. _ _ Petitions praying for an inquiry into the charges brought against the Raja of Sattara were presented:by Dr. Bowring, from Westbury, Westminster, and the parish of St. George, Hanover-square ; several by Mr. Hume; by Mr. Williams, signed by 812 of the inhabitants of Marylebone ; by Mr. Lushington, from the parishes of St. Ann's, Soho, St. George's, Hanover-square, and St. Paul's, Covent-garden; and by Mr. Berekelev, from Bristol. HEALTH OF TOWNS. Mr. H. JONES presented a petition praying the House to adopt some measure for promoting the health of towns. CHURCH- R ATE S. Lord NUGENT presented a petition from Ayles bury against the imposition of church rates. JEWISIi DISABILITIES. Mr. DIVETT presented a petition in favour of the removal of Jewish disabilities. Mr. FRENVEN presented a petition from a place in Hampshire against the admission of Jews into Parliament. NEW WRIT FOR KILKENNY. On the motion of Mr. J. O'CONNELL, a new writ was ordered for Kilkenny, in the room of the Hon. and Learned Member, he having chosen to sit for the county of Limerick. CRIME AND OUTRAGE—IRELAND. Mr. ANSTY presented a petition from the Con federate Club of Drogheda against the Crime and Outrage (Ireland) Bill. THE LATE RAJA OF SATTARA. Sir B. HALL presented a petition from Maryle bone, praying the House to institute an inquiry into the case of the late Raja of Sattara. THE NEW HOUSE OF COMMONS. Lord DUNCAN, seeing the Noble Lord the First Lord Commissioner of Woods and Forests in his place, was desirous of putting a question to him, the answer to which involved, in these times of the prevalence of epidemic disorders, the health of the Speaker and every Member of that House.— (Laughter.) He wished to know from the Noble Lord if he was enabled to state at what date it was likely the New House of Commons would be fit for the reception of the Members. H• also wished to know why the other buildings, such as the libraries and other places, were not at the present time fit for the reception of the different officers connected with the House. He was, also, desirous of knowing why greater progress had not been made with the official residences. Lord MORPETH stated that he had been in formed by the architect that the new House of Commons would be ready for the reception of Members in from fifteen to eighteen months after the arrangements for lighting, warming, and - ventilating the House were completed. Having said thus much, it was: necessary he should state that the Government, considering all the circumstances, had thought fit to desire that Dr. Reid's plans for venti- lating the House should be carried into effect. With respect to the question of the Noble Lord, as to the official residences, it had been considered best to appropriate the sums voted by Parliament to the com pletion of the shell of the building in preference to the official residences. Mr. HUME said that last year he had moved for returns of the liabilities incurred with respect to the erection of the new Houses of Parliament, but those returns not having been laid on the table, he was desirous of knowing when they would be. Lord MORPETH said that he had made inquiries on the subject, and he could assure the Honourable Member that the returns would be shortly laid on the table. CRIME IN IRELAND. Mr. BAINES gave notice of his intention, in Committee, to move amendments to the Bill for the prevention of crime and outrage in Ireland. OFFENCES AGAINST THE REVENUE LAWS. Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number of persons who are now confined in each of her Majesty's gaols and houses of correction for offences against the revenue laws in Great Britain and Ireland, stating the periods for which they have been confined, in classes of, 1. Less than six months ; 2. More than six and less than twelve ; 3. More than one and less than two years ; 4. More than two years (in contin uation of Parliamentary Paper, No. 432, of Session 1841). —Agreed to. BANK ANNUITIES. The HON. AIEMBE a also moved for an account stating, in detail, the purchases and sales of Bank annuities and Exchequer-bills, effected by the National Debt Commissioners, on account of the Trustees of Savings Banks, under the authority of the Acts of 9 Geo. IV., c. 92, and 3 Will. IV., c. 14 ; shcwing, in separate columns, the date, description, and extent of each of such purchases and sales, and the rate at which each of such purchases and sales were effected, from the 16th day of June 1847.—Agreed to. THE CHOLERA. In answer to a question from an HON. MEMBER, Lord MORPETH stated that Government were now considering what were the best and most desirable measures to be adopted in this country for the prevention of cholera. It was also under consideration whether any altera tions were required to be made in the proclamations issued on the last occasion that the country was visited by this frightful epidemic, or whether im provements could be introduced in the means that were then adopted for establishing district boards of health. RAILWAYS IN INDIA. Mr. BRIGIIT gave notice that to-morrow he should put a question to the Secretary of the Board of Control in reference to the steps which had been taken by that board for the promotion of railways in India, and particularly in those districts in India where cotton was chiefly grown. Mr. ANSTY'S MOTION. Sir GEORGE GREY wished to know if the Honourable Member for Youghal had any ob jection to postpone his motion, in order that HAMBURGH. Mr. HUTT wished to ask the Secretary for Foreign Affairs whether he was able to lay before the House the report of a committee of the Senate of Hamburgh on the subject of the navigation league proposed by Prussia to the state of Hamburgh ? Lord PALMERSTON replied that he had received the document in question, and that as soon as a trans lation was made of it he should lay it on the table. Mr. HUTT trusted that the translation would be entrusted to abler hands than some of those which had been furnished. Lord PALMERSTON would take care that a proper translation was effected. Mr. RTCARDO inquired if the Noble Lord had received any correspondence on the subject, and if so whether he would lay it on the table ? Lord PALMERSTON was not quite positive ; he would, however, ascertain, and if so, he did not think he should have any objection to lay copies on the table. PORTUGAL. Mr. HUME said it would be recollected that on tho 20th of April last a protocol was agreed to be tween this country and France and Spain with respect to the affairs of Portugal. He wished to know whether France and Spain had withdrawn from the treaty. Lord PALMERSTON said the protocol was to the effect that an election should take place in Por tugal, and that the Cortes should be afterwards sum moned. The terms had not yet been fulfilled, because the elections were not yet over. Her Ma jesty's Government considered that Portugal was bound by the treaty There had not been any formal communication to the effect that France and Spain had withdrawn. There might to a shade of difference between those two Governments and the Government of this country. THE GOVERNMENT AND THE WEST INDIES. Lord G. BENTINOK postponed his motion for a fortnight, in consequence of the continued indispo • sition of the Premier. THE RAJA OF SATTARA. Mr. HUME postponed the following motion until Tuesday :—" That the contents of the papers laid before Parliament in the last session, respecting the innocence of the late Purtaub Shean, the deposed Itaja of Sattara, taken in connexion with the in formation previously presented to the House of Com mons, render it expedient and necessary to the furtherance of the ends of justice, and for the future good government of India, and the protection of the people and princes of that country, that the inquiry prayed for by the late Raja in his petition to Parliament, presented on the 29th of July, 1842, should be granted, with a view of rescuing the cha racter of the late Baja, if innocent, from the opprobrium which certain charges brought against him have cast upon it, and of vindicating the honour of the British Administration in India from the suspi cion and obloquy which the proceedings against the late Raja have excited." REVENUE. The HON. M E MBER also inquired if the Government would object to the following motion : For a Select Com mittee, to inquire into the state of the public income and expenditure of the United Kingdom ; to examine the public revenue, under it separate heads, as re gards the assessment, collection, custody, and the employed for the same , an d t o re any and what alt era ti on or re pesotratbliswhhmeethnetsr peal can be made under any of these heads, with benefit to the public revenue; also, to examine into the public expenditure, under separate heads, and to consider and report what measures can be adopted for the relief of the country, by altering or reducing any portion of the said expenditure, without detriment to the public service. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was directed by Lord John Russell to state that the Go vernment could not accede to the motion. Mr. HUME said he should move it after the recess. Mr. ANSTY postponed his motion for a fort night. BANK OF SCOTLAND. In reply to Mr. J. A. SMITH, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ex plained, that in his speech the other night he did not mean to convey the impression that the Bank of Scotlana and the majority of Scotch banks had applied to the Bank of England for loans. He spoke generally. It was needless to disclaim that the Bank of Scotland had made such an application. IRELAND. • Mr. J. O'CONNELL inquired whether the Govern ment intended to take any immediate step to provide employment or food for the people of Ireland, where the rates were insufficient, and whether they proposed bringing in a landlord and tenant Bill ? Sir GEORGE GREY replied that the attention of the Government was cl ose ly di rec t e d t o those parts which were impoverished, and they had sufficient means at command to meet any emergency. It was not the intention of the Government to propose the resumption of works and relief.—(Hear.) The Landlord and Tenant Bill would be introduced as soon as its provisions had been properly framed. It had been intended to introduce it and other measures at the commencement of the usual session ; hence the delay. The Government did not wish to lay on the table a crude and ill-digested measure. CRIME AND OUTRAGE (IRELAND) BILL. On the order of the day being read for the resump tion of the debate on this Bill, Sir G. GREY wished to trespass fora few minutes on the patience of the House, in order to remove several misconceptions which had arisen with respect to a part of the Bill, and in answer to observations which had been made to him by several Hon. Members with respect to the Bill. It would prevent some discussion if those misconceptions were at once removed, and those observations to which he had alluded an swere d. Th e first point to which he wished to refer was with respect to the amount of the increase in the police force of Ireland. On a former occasion the Hon. Member for Buckinghamshire, to wards the clo se o f th e d e b a te, expressed his satisfac tion that the state of Ireland was such that the re medy proposed by the Government was to be confined to an increa se o f 200 po li ce men. Considering the statement which he (Sir G. Grey) had made, he felt conscious that the error into which the Hon. Mem ber had fallen was occasioned by his not having gone sufficiently into that part of the Bill and the present state of the law with respect to the police of Ireland. Had he gone more fully into the subject than he did, that Hon. Member would not have fallen into the error which he was conscious he had fallen into. He (Sir G. Grey) had had several communications made to him upon the subject of the limit proposed by the Government, which was to be extended only to 200 men. He would take the present opportunity of stating that under the proposed Bill the limit might be extended to 1,000 men. The real effect of the measure would be to remove all the limits whatever, except that imposed by the necessity of the case. He would shortly refer to the existing laws on the subject. By the 6th IV. chap. 13, the number of police in all parts of Ireland was fixed. A maximum limit was placed, beyond which they could nut go. There were, however, two modes by which, under that Act, the police force could be in creased—the first was by the Lord-Lieutenant, at the requisition of a majority of the magis trates at quarter sessions, stating that the existing amount of constabulary was insufficient for the due execution of the law. The second mode was by the proclamation of the Lord-Lieutenant stating any distriet to be in a state of disturbance. By that Act power was given, under such circum stances, to increase the amount of the constabulary in such districts by 50 men. By a subsequent Act power was kiven to increase the amount by 100 men. In many cases the police have been increased under the regulations of the existing laws. With respect to the expense of the increase, half of it was to be borne by the barony or district in which the increase was made, and the other was to become chargeable upon the Consolidated Fund. By the 6th William IV. power is given to keep a certain reserve force of police in Dublin as a sort of constabulary depot, from which they are sent by the Lord-Lieutenant to those disturbed districts where they may be required. He hoped that it would be sufficiently understood that there was now no limits to be placed upon the amount of increase in the police force. By the measure before the House it is proposed that the whole charges of the additional police should be borne by the districts to which the police are sent. By the Speci d Constables' Act, 2 and 3 William IV., chap. 108, very useful powers were given for calling into active exercise those duties which devolved upon the inhabitants of any district where crime existed, by calling upon them to aid in the execution of the law. He could not too strongly express his own opinion that gentlemen should avail themselves, as far as possible, of the provisions of the Act, and induce the sound population of the disturbd districts to aid in the suppression of crime. The only other point to which it was necessary that he should allude was, that with respect to accessories, as it had been stated that the Govern ment had not taken notice of them. With respect to accessories after the fact, the notice of his Noble Friend would be well considered by the Goverment. As to the question of accessories before the fact, such cases were under theconsideration of the Lord-Lieutenant, and he (Sir George Grey) had his assurance that he would not shrink from the performance of his duty.—(Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet, after stating what the law, as it at present existed on this subject, was, observed that his only object in rising was to remove the misconception that had arisen upon the subject. The Right Hon. Baronet concluded by moving the second reading of the Bill. Sir R. PEEL thought it would be much better that the present Bill should enact what would be the law after it came into operation, without referring to Acts of Parliament that were at present in existence. Sir G. GREY apprehended that the Right Hon. Baronet referred to the White Boys' Act. He did not see the necessity of re-enacting the provisions of that Act. Mr. J. O'CONNELL did not consider it neces sary to go at any length into the objections which he entertained for this Bill. Not only was it an unjus tifiable measure in point of severity, but it cruelly in terfered with the liberties of the people of Ireland. The House, however, had always been indisposed to act with justice towards Ireland, and this Bill was nothing more than what was to be expected from it. The Right Hon. Baronet seemed a little irritated at the questions which he (Mr. O'Connell) put to him just before the motion for the second reading of the Bill, and he regretted that they had caused him any uneasiness. He admitted they were merely repetitions of questions which he had put upon former occasions, but he was anxious once more to give Government an opportunity of setting themselves right with the peo ple of Ireland. He did not think, however, that he should have occasion to trouble the Right Hon. Ba ronet again with such questions, for he felt that it was now the duty of those who took an interst in the welfare of Ireland to proclaim to her people that all hope of England ever redressing their griev ances was at an end. England had, from the com mencement, shown a strong disposition to act harshly with the Irish people, and he was afraid it would re main so till the end of the chapter. It was hopeless for Irish Members to expect to be listened to by that House with attention, and he, therefore, did not think it necessary to dwell at any length upon the circum stances contained in the Bill. No later ago than last year the Noble Lord at the head of the Government declared that he was against coercive measures for Ireland, and he wanted to know what had occurred since then to render coercion necessary now. The friends of Ireland might now give up their " long game," so far as the Government was con cerned, for they left their appeals unanswere d. Was that the way, if they were in error, to make them think that they were so, and that they should put their faith in the present Parliament, and not in one composed strictly of Irishmen, sitting in Ireland ? Was that the way to induce the whole people of Ireland, who had pledged themselves to leave no thing undone to !carry the repeal of the union to doubt the expediency of their vows ? Was it the way to lead the Irish Members, who had vowed to devote their lives to the promotion of the cause, to place faith in the present Legislature ? It was not. He asked the Right Honourable Gentleman he asked Englishmen how these deep-seated convictions were to be removed when their remonstrances were treated with silence, while an ignorant English landlord was carefully answered by the Government ? Let them at once frankly tell the people of Ireland that it was idle mummery to go through the ordeal of electing Members, ' for they were treated with contempt; for it was useless for them to be subjected to the expense and trouble of attending that House, for England monopolised the whole business of legisla tion. He contended that he had established a claim to be answered. Although he knew that he should be vituperated in Ireland for consenting to the introduction of the Bill, for he wished to see the police increased, in order that crime might be repressed, he did so heedless of the consequences ; but he now understood that the Bill which was stated by the Right Honourable Gentleman to be partial and temporary, that it was to be confined to parts of the five counties, was not the measure that had been described ; for the first clause stated that the Lord-Lieutenant should have power to apply the provisions of the Act to any other county which he might imagine was affected. He might have yielded hastily, but he now doubted whether he should have done so. He admired the conduct of the Lord-Lieutenant while he was engaged in a foreign country, but he came to Ireland ignorant of the country. He was not in a position to become acquainted with the Irish. He was perfectly walled round from the truth, and it was to such a man as that the Government were going to give the most absolute power over the liberties of the Irish people. He would inform the House that the office of a dictator was entirely unknown in Ireland. If the present measure were the smallest infraction of the liberties of England, they would have many individuals stand ing up in the House for the liberties of the people, but Ireland was considered beyond the pale of the constitution. He did not delude himself that any arguments which he could use would be of avail when the House was determined to commit an act of injustice and oppression. —(Hear, hear.) He felt, however, that he had a duty to discharge, and he was determined to discharge it.—(Hear, hear.) He would have readily consented to a Bill to pre vent parties from having arms in their houses, pro vided such provision had been contained in a separate Bill. Then with respect to the right of search, he admitted in certain cases the necessity for that right. but it ought to be conducted under certain guards. In the present Bill there were no guards at all, and the most prejudiced parties might increase their prejudices to the fullest extent. With respect to the constabulary force, the greater portion of the officers in it were the most prejudiced Orange men—(Hear, hear)—and it was to such parties that the present Government proposed to give the right of search by this Bill. The people of Ireland had been taught for centuries by misrule to distrust the administration of the law, and he thought it was high time that some ameliorating measures should be brought forward, and not such enact ments as were contained in the present Bill. He would predict that this Bill, instead of repressing crime, would increase it. The people would be ren dered more discontented with their condition, and their want and suffering would goad them on to be reven ged against such measures as these. The House, it would seem, would not listen to the suffering cry of Ireland till the law had been obeyed, but how could they expect to see the laws obeyed while the distresses of Ireland were treated with indifference ? Why not make concessions ? Why not try the effect of remedial measures before they ap plied a scourge ? No doubt the House of Lords would increase the severity of the provisions of this Bill. and then it would become utterly inoperative, in deed, the only effect it would have would be to pro long the shedding of blood; whereas, if remedial measures were resorted to, many of the existing evils would be removed, and the affections of the people of Ireland drawn towards this country.— (Hear, hear.) It appeared to him that Ministers were adopting a retrograde course. Formerly they were for extending conciliation towards Ireland, but now they were going to resort to measures that would have disgraced any of the dark ages, as they were called.—(Hear, hear.) It was monstrous, therefore, F to expect the people of Ireland to remain contented while under the rule of this country, and he warned the House that if they passed this Bill they would soon have cause to rue the day they did so. He had gone through the chief matters in the Bill to which he objected. They were many and grievous. He had been indeed no way prepared for a Bill of such petty, minute, ingenious, torturing details. It was the most deceptive measure ever brought before the House. In other coercion Bills there had been frank, bold, avowed oppression. In this enactment it was covert. This was an insidious, deceptive, sneaking Bill. It deserved no other terms. It did underhand that which its authors had not courage to do plainly and openly. It went beyond the powers of the worst clause of the worst prev ious Act. It was calculated to meet the people at every turn—to annoy them in their persons, their pockets, and their liberties.—(Hear, hear.) It was, therefore, that h e felt it to be his duty most vigorously to oppose the Bill. He knew that that opposition would be in effectual—he knew that he had no chance of defeat ing the Bill—that he had no chance of obtaining even a mitigation of the Bill, and he knew from what he saw stated in the newspapers, what was the bloodhound cry used to urge the measure forward. He knew that in another place, where the bitterest enmity, where an insanity of hostility to the Irish people had been more than once expressed, he knew that there, at least, the Bill had no chance of improvement. There, in the place'to which he had ref_Tred, the cry was " Down with the priests, punish the priests, oppress the priests, carry out the principle, crush the priests." Oh, crush them, and see in whate state you would soon have Ireland, deprived her of her best and surest peace-makers I These were the men, indeed, who had alone controlled the exasperation of a people enduring suffering more intense than those of any nation on the face of the earth. But nothing could be done on their behalf. He found it utterly impos sible to obtain even a shadow of justice. Government had turned their minds against Ireland. They had told the people of relief, and now withheld it. They could not even name the distant day when their mea sures of relief would come. Why did they not come forward with the Landlord and Tenant Bill ? The House was told the Government found the subject too difficult, and that it must be put off. But at all events let the measure be introduced. Even were it not passed —were it to be laid upon the table before Christmas, were Ireland to be allowed to see its provisions, to assure itself that they were those of an honest Bill— were only this to be done, he did assure the Govern ment that it would do much towards facilitating the restoration of peace in Ireland. In the meantime he, and the other Irish Members who acted with him, felt that they, at all events, had done their duty: If blood be shed, let it be on the heads of those who would not stay those calamities. He and those who acted with him would have at least the consolation of knowing that they had done their duty to themselves and to their country. Mr. B. COCHRANE could not but express his great surprise at the difference of the tone which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. J. O'Connell) now used towards the Bil, and that which he adopted when it was first introduced.—(Hear, hear.) On that occa sion the Honourable Gentleman gave them to under stand that if he did not give it his most cordial assent, he at all events admitted the necessity which called for it—(Hear, hear)—but he now turned back— " as though afraid E'en at the sound himself had made ;" and taking a totally different view of the measure, denounced it as " sneaking and insidious," and de clared that it was introduced and forced on by " a bloodhound cry." Comparing the state of crime that now existed in Ireland with that of former periods of her history, he (Mr. Cochrane) was of opinion that if any complaints at all were made against this mea sure, it should be that the quality of mercy had been too greatly strained, and that it was not sufficiently coercive. —(Hear.) He was rather surprised at its opposite character, and still more so to listen to such a philippic against it as had been delivered by the Hon. Member for Limerick (Mr. J. O'Connell). The panacea which the Hon. Gentleman would apply to this horrible state of things was, that we should send plenty of money to Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) His (Mr. Cochrane's) opinion was, that it was a just and sound principle to lay down, that the Government of a country was bound to do all it could as a Govern ment to call forth the resources of the governed nation ; but he thought it foolish to hold out hopes that any Government should " stand between the living and the dead, and that the plague should be stayed." To alleviate the distress that existed in Ireland was less the province of the Government than of private charity, and he would ask the Hon. Member for Limerick (Mr. O'Connell) if that charity had not been most nobly and generously extended to his countrymen by the people of England ?—(Cheers.) If there had been any ray of hope in the darkness which overshadowed Ireland, it had been lent by the conduct of this nation, and when the Hon. Mem ber stood up and said they had done nothing for Ire land—that Ireland owed England no gratitude, for that she had only done what she was bound to do, he must say it left a most grievous impression on his heart.—(Cheers.) After hearing such sentiments, he could not but ask the House to look to her past history, and say how far they had ever found any thing but one invariable result from any concession they had made to Ireland.—(Cheers.) Soon after 1793, when the penal laws were abrogated, they would find the United Irishmen springing into exist ence, then they would find that society in 1796 cat rying on a treasonable correspondence with France, and finally the rebellion broke out in 1798. After the passing of the Relief Bill, which the Duke of Wellington declared would give security to the Church, strengthen every department of Govern ment, and restore tranquillity and peace to the country, and after the names of Anglesey, Had dington, Normanby, Fortescue, De Grey, Bes borough, and now of Clarendon, had been added to the long list of good and great men who had been her rulers, they found Ireland as bad as ever, and the necessity for coercion increased rather than diminished. While on this subject he could not but refer the House to a passage in the letters be tween the Duke of Rutland, who was Lord- Lieutenant of Ireland in 1783, and Mr. Pitt, of which he had copies in his hand. The Noble Duke said—" That Ireland had been reduced to its present state of faction by leaving important questions in an indefinite state, and he told Mr. Pitt that whatever advances he might grant, to let them be understood as conclusive. The permanent arrangement of all doubtful questions was indispensable to peace and order, for so long as anything remained in an indefi nite state, so as to excite the expectation of the country, there would never be peace." The House might go on granting and granting, but unless they were determined to make their stand somewhere, and insist that the law should be carried out in all its vigour, any concession to Ire land was perfectly useless.—(Cheers.) When the Hon. Member for Nottingham brought forward the question of repeal, he could not help thinking it was a significant fact that it should have been introduced by an English Member, and he would warn that Hon. Member, and those who acted with him, to take care lest the cry of repeal might not at last come from this side of the water.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") If that day came, they might remember the words of the Right lion. Baronet the Member for Tamworth in 1843 :—" That if they made so much of the Union, they would convey the impression to Ireland that her interests were sacrificed to British interests in order to maintain it." The tone and temper of the speeches of Hon. Members in that House was not quite consistent with that of their addresses to meetings in Ireland. He could not be accused of bad feeling towards the Roman Catholic clergy, whom as a body he believed to be very re spectable, after his vote in favour of their church last night—(Hear, hear)—but he had a right to look to the language held by those gentlemen. At the meeting where Archdeacon Laffan made that mon strous and unfeeling speech, Mr. J. O'Connell said — and let the House remember this was at the meet ing where the Saxon was held up to reprobation be cause he had not the manliness to stand aside and shoot the first man he met with a decent coat on his back—" Your clergyy, our beloved clergy, ever true to you, and to whom you have been as you ought to be, ever true, and whose counsel, if you listen to them as you have hitherto listened, must keep you safe, must keep you from all peril—you have come for a good and holy object—(Good God ! for a high and holy object I)—you have come to look for the preservation of the rights of all—the preservation of order and the preservation of property—in a word, for the preserva tion of society—(Hear, hear) —and if we go next week to Parliament we shall be able to tell them that the men of Tipperary, so long oppressed, so long ca lumniated, and so long denounced, have assembled in peacefulness, in good order, but with determination to demand their rights?' Who could have believed that Mr. J. O'Connell delivered this speech at the very same meeting where Archdeacon Laffan made his horrible and iniquitous address to the people ?—(Hear, hear.) Then came Mr. Maher, who spoke in a similar manner, and congratulated the people on their assem blage. Every individual present, when such language was used, as a gentleman, as a man, as a citizen of the world, was bound to have expressed his abhorrence of it.—(Cheers.) But did they find the higher authori ties of the Roman Catholic Church complain of it ? No ! What did John M‘Hale, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Tuam, write to his clergy ? He con gratulated them and the Catholic people of Ireland on the unexampled patience with which they had borne their sufferings; but_ he did not in any way appeal to the proper feelings of the lower orders of the.priest hood. Then came the Rev. Dr. Ryan, Bishop of Limerick. He said—" The higher classes, forgetful of Christian obligations and the duties which religion prescribes for their performance and guidance, tram ple on those who are placed under them, and recon cile with justice and mercy to treat them like cat tle. Cold and callous to the voice of humanity, dead to the ordinary feelings of c ommiseration, untouched f by the cries of famine and pestilence, the wailingso hunger, the lamentations of women and children, and the terrible condition of the poor man himself, heai t t h le e s y s exercise over their victims a systtehme vengeance of cruelty, calculated to brinq , down It was monstrous for a heaven on their own heads. to an exasperated and starving popu menand to Ch minister of God thus to denounce who l l a e tio c a la s classes of so the strict letter of the f ti a a r n t i o ty f . org l e i t e w d h id at no w t law, but he contended that the bishop or minister of acsardeufeorto society ns abepesooplien, gctu,aganedtomsuucsht was an accessory the Church who ü b s e e f d or s e uc t h he la f n a the eyes of heaven. —(Cheers.) His guilt was aggra vated by his cowardice — "What's basely done must be done safely too." He did not mean to say that there were liot many who really believed . they were doing goal to their I country, while they were only luring it on to guilt and ruin. In the words of Wesley, he would call on her Majesty's Government vigorously to exert the laws against those who by their lives and principles inflame the people to madness—to teach the people that there was a difference between that liberty which was glorious, and a licentiousness which was only its abandoned abuse. How (said he) shall we appeal to the feelings and touch the hearts of this infatuated people ? Never—until the cause of that infatuation is removed ; never—until the Government are pre pared to act with vigour, and shrink from no respon sibility, to strike at the root of the evil, and to teach the people that the law like death levels all distinc tions. Then, and not till then, shall we have such union its will be binding and real, and without which it would be better to have a union of kind feeling and of Christian virtue only.—(Cheers.) Mr. HUME said he could nor but complain of the speech of the Honourable Member for Limerick. He had stated as facts what were nothing but fallacies, and had asserted many things which were not borne out by the facts themselves. No one in that House was more ready to redress the evils of Ireland than he (Mr. Hume) was. Throughout his life he had consistently advocated the removal of those grounds of complaint which pressed upon the people of that country, and had supported such a treatment as would make them contented and satisfied. If the Ministers could be charged with inconsistency for introducing this Bill, he was open to the same accu sation, for he intended to support it. He had always voted against coercion, and would do so whenever was attempted. But was the present a "coercion Bill ?—(Hear, hear.) There was nothing in the Bi ll which :coerced the people of Ireland —nothing which bore against any man but those who violated the laws, and yet the Honourable Member for Limerick spoke of coercion, asserted that this was an attack on the liberties of the people, and talked of punishing the many for the crime of the few. He denied those allegations.—(Loud cheers.) The Bill was intended to punish those who were com mitting mischief and murder—who were maltreating and molesting her Majesty's peaceable subjects; it was intended to protect those who wanted to follow their honest occupations without lekor hinderance, and v, ho had a right to demand and receive protection from the State, and yet the Hon. Member declared It was an attempt to coerce the people, and deprive them of their liberties.—(Loud cheers.) The Bill was not intended to oppress the many, but to punish the few who violated the law. The Hon. Member said the majority of Irish Members were against it. He (I" • Hume) had looked to the division lists to see bow far this was correct, and what did he find? That out Of 105 Irish Members fourteen voted for and thirteen against it—(Cheers)—and that on the second aces lion only thirteen voted. Was the correct proportion in the Hon. Gentleman's mind ninety-one to tbir - , teen ?It was too much to say, when the whole num" _ ber of Irish Members who voted on the Bill did not exceed thirty-four, that the whole of the Irish Mem bers were against it.—(Hear, hear.) It reminded him of a speech of a relative of the Hon. Member, in which he mentioned the anecdote of " the three, tailors of Tooley-street," who began their address to the House with " We, the people of England .-- (Hear, hear, and laughter.) So, the Hon. Mem ber for Limerick seemed to believe he was the repre sentative of all Ireland.—(A laugh.) He could assure assure the Hon. Gentleman he was placing himself in an awkward situation, and he would wish to fi n '' out the grounds on which the Hon. Gentleman - thought himself entitled to believe he was the only representative of the nation.—(Hear, hear.) Were he now an Irish representative as he had been once, he should have considered himself called upon to deny and repudiate this assumption. Another charge against this Bill, equally unfounded in fact, wa s the Bill handed the people of Ireland over to the dic-_ tatorship of Lord Clarendon, and that the liberties of the country would depend on his sic vole, sic jubeo. ' The Bill did no such thing—(Hear, hear) — bu t dis tinctly declared that its pr o visions were to b e en forced by the Lord-Li e ute n ant, "by and with the advice and consent of the Privy Council of Ire land, : and, therefore, it was unfair to say that it co nve y ed absolutely to the Lord-Lieutenant those power s which .. he shared with a responsible body.—(Cheers.) .131!5 the inconsistency ~of the Hon. Gentleman on this question was not to be passed over.—(Hear, bear.) , in a letter, signed J. O'Connell, and addressed to the editor of the Freeman's Journal, in order tha t the whole people of Ireland might know what were the sentiments of him who represented Ireland, the Hon n. Gentleman, speaking of the very measure a g eie6 which he had just delivered such an unfounded philippic, said :—" The Government proposition to-night is to give the Lord-Lieutenant power to increase the police force in disturbed districts, and prevent the carrying of arms in the same. Arius may, however, be retained at home by all who choose to apply for a license—not to hostile magistrates— but to Government officers sent down to hold a kind of session for the purpose. The Bill is to be only of partial application, and the moment the Lord- Lieutenant withdraws his proclamation, the right of carrying arms revives. This, it must be acknow ledged, is very different from what we expected from • the threats of the hostile press ; and if fairly adminis tered, may not inconvenience any but the authors of disturbance and outrage. I have not opposed (but neither have I voted for) the introduction of this Bill, as some temporary measure relative to arms may, In the disturbed districts, be useful, and as the increase of police cannot be had without it." How, then, could the Hon. Member now assert that its object was to hand over the whole people of Ireland to oppression ?—(Cheers.) For the very reasons given by the Hon. Gentleman in that letter he (Mr. , tiolumster)ensgutphpeoorttehdothehanßdisll, able Gentleman had talked much Honour criminals and disturbers of the peace. The _b"_n oa of d GboevcearnumseenhLe fishedaoiunrs-t paned long ago, but could any act of our t Pas rderers call upon us now to permit assassins and mu to go through the country with impunity.---(ne",l - hear.) He had heard with the greatest pain a speeca of the Honourable Member on a former occasion,. of what had 11 4 wherein he vindicated in a sort of way the deeds of. those men which the law pronounced to be worthy el death, and had read letters and made statements e, re specting their victims which were, as he (Mr. Huta was informed, utterly unfounded. He ha heaven.o charges against the late Major Mahon, but tured to say that the character he had given of that unfortunate gentleman was as differe nt from AB truth as was darkness from light.—(Cheers.) And nest had spoken of Mr. Roe in the same way ; a , eis he came to Mr. Carden, whom, judging observations, he held up as an individual who ought to be punished. ' Did the House know that Mr s Carden had been seven times shot at ?—(Cheers_J This was the man who was again to be held up the Hon. Member to the eyes of the people.—(Lo If from O. cheers.) The Hon. Member forgot his position. Is he were indeed a lover of peace and anxious to stay bloodshed, that was not the way to do it.—(Hear, hear.) " Blood," said the Hon. Member, " will be shed. Why blood had been shed already, and that w as not the way to lessen it. —(lean) He was afraid the Hon. Member was not aware that the people of England were estranging themselves from Ireland, and losing their love for her. Up to a very late period of his public life he never had been at meeting of the people, or of the working classes, wherein the state of Ireland, her wrongs, and the in' justice done to her was mentioned without then being an universal cry of " Shame." He won: . challenge any one to say that when the clue tion of justice to Ireland—that sentiment s o often quoted by a relative of the Hon. Member--ew% brought forward before the people of Englansbi ll t s o they would not administer it. He was ples"u,,,„t find that Government wanted no law that W as 7, - c i perfectly constitutional. Powers were to be granted under the constitution for the protection of life an property ; this measure granted no more; and le should like to know what man, calling himself sr; Irishman or an Englishman, wished for less ? thi les cs , a man would defend confiscation of property, 1 1, 1 , could he deny that such powers were necessary un d o , any constitutional Government ?—(Hear, bean) li fe, vernment was bound to protect property, and ce , and to give the country a chance of returning pe at and of that industry which alone would confer lasting benefits. How could any man expect thatcapitaltsal would embark their money there, when they sa w men of liberal feelings, who wished to improvetheirp_f perty, and give their tenants fair play, were in danger ie? losing their lives and having their property destroyed With With regard to the question of tenant-right, ifs r:„ . " 11 •by pro position were to be submitted to that House by wn'' the landlord and tenant were to become joint op e, see° . and striking at the root of all industry. He prietors, he should think it a most mischievous enu, a list of parties owing arrears of rent for three, 1 t" or five years ; they refused either to g ive up " rfe e r land or pay their rent, and although on se veral of . i. eii-A properties the land remained perfectly barren, . 1 % persisted until the sheriff was called up on to eject, 114 upon their ejectment all arrears were passed by, r of a sum of money paid them. If this was the serk of tenant-right proposed, where would the proner' Ireland be? If people were to bold just s o s e 5 : 1 1 h e land as they could vegetate upon, where w ould the means of giving them employment? Such a . 3 n s ut arrangement would be inconsistent with the lath! El); • which it ought to be their aim to encourage, andrn; prosperity which might be expected to result fro...rely. Mr. CALLAGHAN regretted that the 11 h vr Lu Member for Montrose should have expressed sue :: sentiments ; he was quite at a loss to know give utterance to what he thought of that Member's fallen state.—(Laughter.) The i s', 4 .. Member was a sad example of what a man mign,.b'v come in his old age.—(Laughter.) He Inns' der, vi that he disbelieved many of the statements si were put forward regarding these instance s of intsrdig.; n A friend of his, a Noble Lord, had lately rise I stated that Mr. Roe's death was discus sed And 4