The Sun. — London, England, 1840-08-05 00:00:00

ENING EDITION. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. TTRONI FHB DAILY PAPERS OF YESTELDAY.) ( From the Globe.) It has teen generally believed for some days past by well-informed persons, that the extreme violence of the French newspapers upon the Turkish question was not wholly unconnected with suggestions from individuals on this side of the Channel ; and the Journal des Debats of Thursday, the 30th ult., affords a comical proof that such suspicions are well founded. That paper contains a long and furious article, full of personalities and in vective, the whole tenour and context of which show that it was written in English and translated into French ; but there are two expressions in it which place this beyond a doubt. In this country we have heard much of "pres sure from without," and of "open questions." They are slang phrases of the day, and most of our readers in this town must know particular individuals in whose mouths these phrases are familiar as household words. But to the editor of a French newspaper these expressions are gibberish untrans lated into French ; accordingly, though the editor of the De buts has made a very fair translation of the rest of his English manuscript, he found these two cant phrases too much for him. The first he made an awkward attempt to render by the ex pression " /a compression du dehors ;" but, as if ashamed of an expression so little in accordance with French idiom, he prirted it in italics to show that it was an extraneous phrase. But the second expression of " open questions" ab solutely beat him, and after offering to his readers the expres sion of "question reservee" in exchange for it, he modestly adds in brackets the English words ( "open question") which he found in his English origi•.;al, in order to explain what his words question resercee meant. We would beg to offer a suggestion to the editor of the Debuts and to his " distin tinguished Correspondent" in this country—and that is, either that the Distinguished Correspondent should send in future a French translation of what he wants to have inserted—and if he is not himself sufficiently master of the language, he may probably find among his acquaint ances some learned Doctor utriusque lingua who could help him ; or else that the editor of the Debats should print his English manuscript as he gets it. ( From the Standard.) In the House of Lords, last night, Lord Brougham moved the second reading of his Lordship's Bill for facili tating the administration of justice in the Courts of Chancery. This Bill goes the right way to work, for it gives plenary power to the Lord Chancellor, assisted by two others of the Equity Judges, to re form the whole system of process and pleading in the Equity Courts. Should the Bill pass—as there is little doubt it will—the responsibility for whatever may be hereafter found amiss in the proceedings of the courts of equity will rest, as it ought to rest, upon the Judges. They will be constantly amenable to public opinion for the conduct of their courts, and how much soever they may be disposed to adhere to old forms, and to protect abuses profitable to professional men, but injurious to public justice, and ruinous to litigants, they will not dare to pre serve either the one or the other. It is a distinction which ought never to be lost sight of, that while the judges may be most safely trusted as regards their awards, they may not be so safely trusted as to the details of forms and pro cess. It is well, however, that they should have the re form of these things committed to them, as they are best equainted with the subject, and must prosecute the task under the strict superintendence of Parliament and of the public. (From the Courier.) Our good friends of Paris are a mercurial race, and would die of pure inanition if subjected to the monotony of common life and labour as here, and in other sober and industrious communities. A new sensation is to them a primary necessity of every day existence, and the salons would be tristes, if not deserted, if the peopl a who deal in politics—qui font de la politique—and congregate in those high places, had no special excite ment wherewith to season bons bons aid give zest to eau lucre. And if such be the ordinary tenour of their ways, we cannot wonder that such an event as a political caper of Lord Palmerston, and his fickle exchange of an old love for a new one, should set all Paris in a blaze and absorb the public mind, to the exclusion of all other feelings and feuds. Fairly to speak, however, they have solid cause now for asto nishment, indignation, and complaint, for of the fresh qua druple fantasy of the Foreign office, displacing its more antiquated sister with so little of form and etiquette, not the slightest forewarning appears to have been afforded, and but for an unlicensed correspondent of our contemporary, the Post, Parliament might have separated without the least suspicion of the sword tempered at Da mascus, which the Foreign Secretary had ingeniously contrived to suspend by a hair, Damocles like, over the destinies of the nation, and the Parisians, in like manner, would still have remained in happy ignorance of impending fate. That contemptuous rupture of existing relations, and utter disregard of the commonest courtesies of good breeding and neighbourly feeling on the one side, should beget distrust and defiance on the other, need not there fore create surprise ; the miracle would have been, on the contrary, that a high spirited, gallant, and mighty nation should be found crouching tamely to unmerited insult, and the insolent assumption of airs of superiority. INDlGo.—Since.the...Quarterly.Sale of East India, 250 chests have bean disposed of chiefly - for export at the rates established thereat, the principal part consisted of good quality, the market is looking better; the stock is now 90,934 chests, last year at the same time it was 18,496 chests, and in 1833, 23,968 chests. Of Spanish the stock is 1,152 serons, against 2,070 serons last year at this period. TaLLow.—There has been a better demand for Russian Tallow on the spot since we last wrote, and prices have improved to 52s 3d a 52s 63 for P. Y. Candle of first quality. For delivery in the last three months prices have advanced to 523 6d to 52s 9.1 per cwt. Town Tallow at previous rates. This afternoon prices were firm at 523 6d a 523 9d for P. Y. Candle on the spot and for arrival, at which there was a fair business doing. RICE.—In the early part of the last week Bengal was in good request, at full prices, bat towards the close 2,196 bags at public sale went at 3d a 6d under the rates of the last auction, good and fine bold white sold at 14s a 153, middling 13s 6d. Java rather higher, viz , good and fine white 12s a 133 6cl per cwt. Carolina for home consump tion at 343 a 365, for export 21s a 23s per cwt. This afternoon the demand for East India was limited. Madras sold at 9; to 103 for mid yellow, being it.; full va lue. Java at lls to 12: for good white. SPICES.—Thig afternoon the public sales consisted of 1,391 bags Pepper, 18 brls Nutmegs, and 120 bags Pi mento ; Pepper was all taken in above its value, viz., common dusty and stalky Sumatra at aad to 31d. Nut megs, very ordinary, worm-eaten and shrivelled at 2s. Pimento sold at full prices, viz , mid quality at 3ad per lb. Ort.s.—Fish Oils have further improved, 30; to 40; for Seal, and 103 for Southern. The former in large parcels has been disposed of at 29/ 103 to 301; for pale, brown, and yellow, 26/ 103 to 281; and the latter at 24/15s to 25/ 153 for middling to good quality. Cod at 291103. For arrival sales in pale Seal have been made at 29/. Southern at 23/ 15s to 251 15s for good and fine quality. New foundland Whale 25155. Sperm, 94/ 15s to 95/ paid for large, and 96/ a 971 for small parcels first quaility. At auction 15 tuns sold at 951155 to 96/ fine quality. Linseed Oil 293. For forward delivery 29 . 3 3d to 293 6d per cwt. Rape has further improved; pale at 403 and brown at 39s per cwt. Palm at 371 to 371 lOs on the spot for fine qua lity. A cargo has been disposed of at about 36/ lOs per tun ; Lucca higher. East India Cocoa Nut Oil at 42s per cwt for good quality. MARKETS. A IN. Barley, Mecklenbargh ISO to WS I - Magdeburgh 192 to 21 4 - Holstein -- Summer IAS to ISO Oats, Eider - Mecklenburg Holstein (-- Elst Friesland.— 132 to 162 Pease, Mecklenburg ... 300 to 31 Beans ,Buck Wheat 6O to 8 Rapeseed, Hanover SO t• 83 Malt Tares CON. Maranham Madras 5 5!4 Surats 4 4% Domingo . 6IA 6% 'EE. -- • Domingo La Gua3 ra 47, 6% Porto Rico 54 14 0 Havannalt 4% 6% 1 8% Discount.) Bahia, Whits? 5% t 07% Brown 5 5% Pernambuco, White 5% 75 Brown 5 5)4 , . ,wn, 5 to 6% MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London New Price Current of August 4.) SUGAR.—The West India market has presented a quiet appearance since our last report. This day there was considerable heaviness in the West India sugar market, so limited were the sales that they are not worth enumerating, and it is difficult to quote prices, indeed they are little better than nominal : four boards yel low that were sold at 80s to 843 63 for mid to fine were full Is lower than on this day week ; the extreme dullness which exists i 3 to be attributed to the intermediate sup plies proving larger than had been expected, and the falling off in the deliveries during the last three weeks, also the unwillingness of the merchants to submit to any material reduction. There was no public sale. The stock of British Plantation Sugar is now 15,231 hhd3 and tres, which is 16,558 less than last year at the same period. REFINED.—To-day the market for Refined e,o3ds was very dull ; and the nearest quotation for Standard Lumps was 103 s. Treacle sells slowly at 423 for common, and 433 to 45s for patent and the best old make. Pieces and Bastards dull. Bonded crushed Sugar 343 to 343 3d, and few buyers. MAURITIUS.—Fccv purchases have been made ; 7,607 bags at auction went at a reduction on former rates of ls. This afternoon there was no public sale, and by private contract little business was done, prices, however, under went no further depression. Easr Nout.—Bengal, low to fine white at 823 61 to 863, mid grayish yellow Ils 63 to 824, damps and washed 79; 63 to 843 6d per cwt. Manilla good brown at 243 6d, J. ..d mid yellow 25; to 25; 6d. In Java prices have been maintained. Siam 253 to 28s 6d for white and 23s 6,1 to 25s tar brown and yellow. FOREIGN.—Fur yellow Havana purchases cannot be made at lower prices. 1,164 boxes (of new importation) all taken in at 264 to 97s for mid to tine yellow. White afloat at 355, deliverable at St. Petarsburgh. Brazil at previous rates. Macao white, at 254 91 ; brown at 21s 9d, to be delivered in Holland. Molasses. —There has been only a limited business doing, but prices have been supported. The stock is nearly 1,000 pun; less than last year at this time. CoFFEE.—Since the withdrawal of the Customs' Du ties Bill the British Plantation Coffee Market has been in a very dull state. Mocha is wanted, but few parcels are yet in the market. This afternoon the home consumption Coffee market was in a dull state, and the operations were confined to the public saves, which consisted of 2,036 bags Ceylon, 100 casks, &c. British Plantation, and 35 casks 1,358 bags Java fre:n the Cape, at which the trade evinced little de sire to purchase. The Ceylon was only partly disposed of at 3; to 4s under prices when the market was at its highest good and tine ordinary went at F 564 to 883 6,1; of the Plantation a small part only was sold at rather lower rates, middling Jamaica went at 113; to 117;; Java how ever, chiefly sold at former rates, and fine yellow fetched 63; to 70s 6d. Tsa.--For Free Trade Tea a good demand has existed since last Tuesday, and by private contract large parcels have been disposed of for cash for actual consumption, and an advance of id to Id has been given fur Congou and T‘rankay, which have been the most in request, the former realising 2s 21 for common quality, and the latter 23 lid per lb. In she speculative market there has been more activity, and prices have advanced to 2.1 21 to 2s r Company'3 Congou for cash, and 2; 2.41 to 24 33 with a one and two months' prompt, and at which there has been a good deal of I.)usiness doing. The deliveries of Tea during the past week have reached 490,000 lbs. The Penang has arrived at Liverpool. At the public sales which commenced yesterday, and finished this morning, there was a large attendance of the trade, amongst which were several influential dealers from the country ; the sales opened with a strong desire on the part of the trade to purchase, and throughout the bidding; were brisk, particularly for black and the better descrip tions of green. Of 13,500 packages offered, 10,000 were readily disposed of for actual consumption, at the follow ing advance on the last auctions :—viz , on Congou lid to 2d ; Twankay lid to 2d ; Hyson 2id to 31; Imperial and Gunpowder 3d; and on nearly all ot h er d escr iptions d to 2d per lbs the remainder was bought in much above market rates. To-day there was a good demand by private contract for Free Trade Tea of all descriptions, common Congou for ca sh is not to be had under 24 2id, and Twankay 2s 2d per lb, and at those rates there were generally not sellers. Company's Congou in request at 2s 2id cash, and 9 s 3d to 2s 3id with prompts. The market closed with a firm appearance. The total imports of Tea from China, from the Ist of Jannary to the end of July 1840, are 15.500,000 lbs. SawretiTee.—To-day a brisk demand prevailed by pri vetsßugh,and prices are rather higher for contract for sales in good and fine made at 28s to 283 ordinary sorts; common 263 to '264 6d, and 63, middling 275 to 273 6d, under the latter figure there is now nothing to be bad of sound quality. The stock is now 4,102 tons against 4,715 tens in in 1839, and 5,082 tons in 1338. Rum, BRA.NDY, AND HOLLAND9.—For Leeward Island Rum a good demand has existed since our last report, and prices have improved 4cl for common and Id for the better ~ e riptiong. The sales have amounted to 280 puns, proof to 3 per cant over proof 3s 93 to 3s 10d, 4 to 8 over 34 100 to 4a Id, 10 to 15 over 4s 2d to 4s 53, 19 to 20 ever 43 73 to 4s 103, 9 3 to 23 over 4 s lld to 5s 23, 30 to 34 over 5a 4d to 53 63, 36 to as over 53 8d to 10d, 39 to 41 over 5s lld to Os 23. For Jamaica the trade has again been eager buyers, especially of strong descriptions : the sales have been 320 puns, at an advance on former rates of Id to lid ; 20 to 30 per cent over at 6s to 6a 3d, 32 to 36 over 6s 4d to t 33 rd, 37 to 39 over 6s Id to 6s 103, extra fine 7s to 73 ad, aa. - 1. superior 7s 4d to 7s 8d per gallon; East India at higher rates. Brandy : for first brands of the vintage 1836 in hinds 5s a 5s Id, puns 4s 11d to 6s; do 1837, hds 4s I Id, puns 4s Od ; do 1836, hhds 4s 9d, puns 4s /d; do 1839, Wads 4s 5•4 to 4s 6d, puns 4s 3d to 4s 43 per gallon. 'neva bapaold freely at 2s to 2s Id, an d - sales in find •v hava_boen made for home consumption at 2; 4d to For British Corn Spirits prices have advanced to 'ch is Id higher. 23 63 . • /Os 3d, wh HAMBUR , GR. Wheat, Marko 462 to 531 - Magdeburg Anhalt, white 4:i6 to 528 red .., 444 to 510 - Brunswick 462 to 531 - Mecklenburg 4 - 20 to 519 - Polish Holstein Rye, Mecklenburg 234 to 258 Dantzic -43 to 258 Elbing and Ko nigsburg - Upland - Riga 2lO to 250 ' con Carolina and Tennesiee 7%t0 9% Georgia, Ist sort 7 2d 6% t 3d and 4th 5% 6 COF Mocha 13 to 13% Batavia 5l Sumatra ._. Rio 4% 5% Bahia SUGAR.—(Wit liavannah, White 6 to 9 Brown 5 6% Rio, NVliite 5% 6% Brown 4% 5% Manilla, Bro• IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, AUGUST 4. (Continued from our Paper of yesterday.) ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS' BILL. Mr. BRISC OE was extremely sorry to see such a spirit manifested by the churchwardens and parish of Chelms ford, and he believed that among many members of the Church of England there existed a sincere desire to see Church-rates abolished. He thought the justice of the case would be satisfied by the churchwardens receiving the rate, and consenting to Mr. Thorogood's discharge. In answer to Mr. EWA RT, Dr. L II INGTON said he did not like to make any alteration in the Bill in the absence of his Noble Friend, but he thought the following proviso would suit the justice of the case, that in cases of Church-rate the Judge should be entitled to discharge the prisoner on the payment of the rates and costs into Court. Lord G. SOMERSET disapproved highly of the con tumacious conduct of John Thorogood ; but conceiving the amount of punishment he had received to be sufficient, he thought he ought now to be discharged. Had the Bill of his lion. and Learned Friend been permitted to proceed, this difficulty would not have arisen. He thought the proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman was entitled to consideration, and therefore he would suggest that the de bate should be adjourned till to-morrow, to give time to consider the subject. . . 11r. F. MA ULE suggested that the third reading should take place now. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that he would suggest that the third reading should take place now, and then he would propose an amendment, on which the debate might be adjourned. With regard to the case of Mr. Childs, the Judges at Norwich were county practitioners; but their practice seemed to be a more merciful one than the Lon don practice. Mr. BERNAL thought his Right Hon. Friend had been rather harshly treated by the Hon. Member for Finsbury. Was he, in a case of this sort, to wait in order to see what was the Norwich, the Manchester, or the Li. verpool practice ? His Right Hon. Friend could not have acted otherwise than he did, and there did not rest the shadow of an imputation upon him on account of his con duct in this matter. The Bill was then read a third time. The Linen Manufacturers (Ireland) Bill was read a third time, and passed. INFANT FELONS BILL. The Order of the Day for receiving the Report on the Infant Felons Bill having been read, Mr. E WART felt bound to offer a few remarks on the Bill. He believed hose who had introduced the Bill were actuated by the most humane motives ; but he thought it extremely pernicious in principle. The interposition of the Court of Chancery had nothing to do with the crime of the child ; it referred to the conduct of the parents, and their capability of bringing up the child in a moral course. It appeared to him that the interposition (if necessary at all) should take place before the crime was committed instead of afterwards. Where a represen. tation was made that the parents were bringing up their child in crime, that, in his opinion, would form a good ground for the interference of the Court of Chancery. lie regretted that a Bill of so much importance should be passed at so late a period of the Session, and in a compa ratively empty house, when so many Hon. Members, who were likely to give expression to their sentiments upon that measure had left town. Even now, if it was intended to pass the Bill, he thought it would be advisable to place some control over the power of the Lord Chancellor, by causing a reference to be made in the first instance to the Secretary of State for the Home Department. Mr. BE RNA L gave every credit to the Hon. Member for the motives teat had actuated him, but he thought the suggestion which he had just thrown out would be ex tremely injudicious, and would not effect the objects he bad in view. He could not see how the application was to be made to the Secretary of State, or what practicable result it would effect. Sir C. BURRELL supported the Bill. Mr. LANGDALE thought the Bill had been very carelessly drawn up, and many parts of it were objection able. He thought the Bill gave a monstrous power to the Lod Chancellor, and he should therefore use every means which the forms of the House allowed to prevent it passinr , into a law. Under the Bill the child of a Jaw might be brought up as a Christian in spite of the wishes of its parents. He would find it his duty to oppose the Bill in a future stage. Mr. HAWES supported the 8111. The objections to the Bill came rather late, and applied more to the whole penal system of the country than to the Bill. Mr. ESTCOURT opposed the Bill. It was cruel not only to the children but to the parents, who had no option as to whether their children should be taken from them or hot. There was not even a provision for informing the parents of what was going on, These children had been tried and convicted for felony, and had suffered the punish ment for their crimes, why then were they to have this further punishment inflicted on them ? He did not think it right to leave to the Lord Chancellor, or to any other person, the power of taking a child from its parent. He thought the Hon. Gentleman had acted most unwisely in drawing the attenticn of the House to the religious in struction of the children ; there was this diff,rcnce between the cases of the children and of the convicts alludc.l to by the Hon. Member for Lambeth, that the convicts were un dergoing their sentence, and that these children had un. dergone theirs. Sir C. GREY had to propose as an amendment a clause prohibiting the sending the infant during its mino rity beyond the seas without the consent of the Lord Chancellor. Ile believed that this amendment was ap. proved of by her Majesty's Government. He thought it would obviate many of the objections which had been urged against this Bill. Ile earnestly begged the Mem ber for Knaresborough not to persevere in his intention of taking every means in his power to oppose this Bill, and hoped be would reconsider his determination. He thought his Hon. Friend the Member for Wigan had taken too narrow a view of the subject. The fact was, th e Bill was a Bill to provide for infant felons on T w h it e h re cr w im as ioa a l their quitting prison.—( Hear, h novelty in mixing up the Lord Chancellorear proceedings, and if the power ha d been g iven to a Judge who tried t h e C hild, i ns t ea d of to the Chancellor, he thought there would not have beer, so many objections to it. Its object w as i n f act to su b st i tu t e education for impriso nment or transportation. With the amendment which he now proposed, he thought the Bill was a very valuable one, and was deserving the support of the House. Mr. BRISCOE suggeeted that the best course the House could adopt was to postpone the measure till the next 4ession of Parliament. Every one must admit that the Bill had been very hastily drawn up, and no discussion had taken place upon iris principles when any considerable number of Members were presont, Under these eircum ssttepdontehde the o ill Awdomulidnibsteraptoiosntpoofne Justice s hj a a e d they trusted I s t t o e t n a e l e r s e a n d e y and opposed the Bill with regard to the abolition of capital punishments, on the ground of the lateness of the Session. 'ly, main objection he had taken to Cue measure was that it was ats unr)tie interference with parental authority and t h e liberty of the Al;Nect. He should therefore join the Hon. Member for Knaresboro4, 7 l : , in offering every g every opposi tion in his power to the passing of the 4tll. Mr. FOX 344ULF.: said the present was the third or fourth time the principle of the Bill had been discussed in t h at House, and notwithstanding u r l that had been said by the flooowraWB Member who bad last addreased the it , wou ld take upon himself the responsibility House, . - the present Session.---(Hear, hear.) of passing it au..., th a t the training 10404 1144 The object of the ill' was THE: SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 5, iS.IO led the child into the commission of crime should not be . continued. There was no objection to make this Bill a subject of periodical legislation. The Bill for the regula tion of prisons in Scotland, which was of equally grave a i nature, was a Bill of only ten months' duration. The principal measure was new only so far as it was compul sory; for the children, who were its objects, were already taken into the schools, when the parents consented, and it was found that the greatest benefits were derived as re garded the children themselves, where the parents did not interfere or take them away. Believing that the Bill was calculated to do great goo 3, he was anxious that it should pass without delay. Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET could not admit that Hon. Members were to be precluded from at all re ferring to the principle of this Bill, because it had been discussed before, and the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite had so high an opinion of its beneficial character, that he wished it to pass without delay. To him (Lord Granville Somerset) the principle was too important for him to allow it to pass without stating his objections to it. In one respect alone it was highly objectionable, if there were no other objection to it. Its effect would be to extend the punishment of all infants beyond the period which the law at present adjudged to their offences. An infant who had once been convicted for an offence would have the record of that conviction fastened upon him for the rest of his days ; and would con tinue in a state of complete coercion as regardedhis present employment up to the age of twenty-one, and all the prospects of his life afterwards. He firmly believed that no house of one hundred Members would pass such a Bill. He should, therefore, use every means in his power of throwing it out.—( Hear.) Mr. AG L lONBY asked the Hon. Secretary (Mr. F. Maule) whether a clause to the effect that due regard should be had to the reli g ious profession of the parents, might not be introduced on the third reading, so as to meet the objection of the Honourable Mem ber for Knaresborough ? He took the opportunity of denying that the Bill would have the effect of continuing the punishment of the children beyond the terms of their legal sentence. On the contrary, he con ceived it would confer upon them the greatest blessings. It would rescue them from the contamination of bad example, and from the temptations to which they were before exposed, and would confer on them the blessings of education, physical, moral, and religious. As a Magis. trate he was surprised that any Magistrate would oppose this Bill.--( Hear, hear.) He had found for many years at the Quarter Sessions, that there was no part of the Magistrates' duty so difficult and distressing as to deal with those children, whom they were compelled, under the present state of the law, to send to the contamination of a gaol, with the positive certainty that they would, at the expiration of their sentence, be returned to their old haunts and habits, and be presented at the bar at the next sessions —(Hear) —and so on, from year to year, until the commission of weightier offences caused them at length to be sent out of the country. He hoped the Hight Hon. Gentleman the Under Secretary would not withdraw the Bill. Mr. MUNTZ said the object of the Bill was to make all infant felons wards in Chancery. At present all those persons were regularly restored, after their term of punish ment, to their old education in the arts of thieving, until they were fully accomplished. He could not see what ob jection on earth there could be to place these poor chil dren under the protection of the Lord Chancellor. On the question that the Report be brought up, the House was about to divide, when the Usher of the Black Rud appeared at the Bar, and summoned the House to the Lords, to attend a Royal Commission. On the return of the SPEAKER, he stated that the House had been to the House of Peers, where her Majesty's Royal Assent was given to several Bills, (for which see Lords' Report). The House then divided on the question that the Re port on the Infant Felons Bill be received. The numbers were— For the Report 4O Against it 5 Aiajority 35 The Bill was then ordered to be read a third time to morrow. _ The Report on the Administration of Justice Birming ham) Bill was brought up, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. --- - .... - The Report on the Highway Rates Bill was brought up, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. .... ._ The Court of Chancery Bill was read a second time, and committed pro forma. Report to be brought up to morrow. . The Imprisonment for Debt Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. The Church Discipline Bill was reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. LABOUR OF CHILDREN. Lord ASHLEY then rose to bring under the notice of the House the subject of the condition of the children of the poorer classes employed in trade and manufactures. He brought the subject forward with feelings somewhat akin to despair, seeing the scanty attendance of Members, and the advanced period of the Session to which they were arrived. His reason for bringing forward the subject at all was, that he had been taunted with devoting his Eaten. tion exclusively to the children employed in factories, while there were so many other departments of trade re quiring the attention and interference of Parliament. Under these circumstances, and having previously be. stowed much attention upon the subject, he felt it his duty to bring the subject under the notice of the House. He felt that the prosperity of the trade and manufactures of the country mainly depended upon the state and condition of those employed in the various departments connected therewith. The subject was ono of the greatest inte rest, and few, he believed, were acquainted with the extent of the various demands which were made upon the energies and the time of the children so employed. He had reason to believe that the children employed in these various departments greatly exceeded the entire number employed in the mills and factories, upon which subject the House had already legislated. In the tobacco trade the children were put to work at the age of seven years, and were generally employed for twelve hours per day. In the bleaching trade the children were employed at eleven years of age, and they frequently laboured all night and day for two or three days. In the potteries the children were employed at an early age tor thirteen or fourteen hours continuously, nd the work was extremely severe. The Noble Lord then referred to the state of the children employed in the Brussels carpet making, the frame-work knitting, and other trades, for the purpose of showing that they were much overworked, and had no opportunity of obtaining any education whatever. The opinion of the Government Inspector as to the labour to which children were put in the coal mines, was, that the hardest labour in the worst factory was less cruel and oppressive than the labour in the best coal mines." Ile would not trouble the House with many more details, as the results were almost invariably the same. It was the custom, in many instances, for parents to bor row money upon the labour of their children, and the master had a right to the labour of the child until the loan was repaid ; so that here was a system of legalized sla very going on in this country. One of his correspondents had stated to him, that the system was one which was de structive alike to the temporal and spiritual welfare of the children. The next subject to which he would draw their attention was calico printing—children of six years of age were employed in this trade, and some of them went to work at 12 at night—they worked 12 hours and took their meals in the workshop, the atmosphere of which was loaded with poisonous gases from the effluvia of the colours. His object in drawing the attention of the House to this subject was to place these children within reach of what Dr. Chalmers would call an aggressive movement of edu cation. Continental nations were following our example, and it would not do for us now to fall behind them in the work of humanity, and be last where we were first. From the Report of the French Commission it appeared that there was no morality existing among the children employed in manufactures, and from the Report of the Recruiting De partment it appeared that the number of persons rejected as incapable from the manufacturing districts doubled that of those rejected from the agricultural districts; and he had no doubt that if a similar inquiry should be instituted in this country, the rcs It would still be more deplorable. The inquiry which he asked was due to the mill-owners and the other manufacturers who were subject to the pro visions of the Factory Bill. They were labouring under restrictions which did not press upon other trades. The occupation to which children were subjected were of a most cruel and dangerous nature, and even the Poor-law Commissioners thought twice, nay thrice, before they sent any of the 30,000 or 35,000 children who were under their care to be engaged in them. Many of the trades :n which children were engaged were totally unsuited to them when they became adults— the confequence of which was, that they either became professed thieves or sunk into hopeless pauperism. His great object was to appeal to public opinion—he appealed to the Bishops, and minis ters of all persuasions, to do all in their power to ameliorate the condition of the youth of this country. Amidst all their difErences of opinion, it was gratifying to find there was one point on which the sympathy of all could be concentrated--( Hear, hear.) He felt they had only to exhibit the evil to obtain a remedy. He there fore ventured to entreat the countenance of the House and of the Government, in his endeavours to remove those evils which pressed so hardly cn this interesting portion of the human race.—(Cheers.) The Nagle Lord concluded by moving--" That an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to direct an inquiry to be made into the employ ment of the children of the poorer classes in the various branches of trade and manufacture in which numbers of children work together, not being included in the provi sions of the Acts for regulat ng the employment of Chil dren and young P ersons i n Mill s an d F actor i es ; an d to tpil,oe y collected time n ha f le o l o rm w eadt numberi o e na each of day t hours o u t fhroser they ages meals, aatre and e h dn i e ga h as g t t e h o d e t y hi ne a r actual state, condition, and treatment of such children, ;and as to the effects of such employment, both with regard to their morals and their bodily health." Mr. BR OTH ERT ON seconded the motion. The legislation with regard to children employed in factories had tended to the amelioration of their condition, and lie did not doubt but that similar good results would folio ,v in the cases to which the Noble Lord had referred. Ile thought that all employed at these manufactories, were employed too long, and if the labouring classes had their rights, there walaid be no necessity for their being over-worked as they were. The President of the United States had re cently issued an order limiting the employment of persons labouirng in the public works to ten hours a day, and this regulation had elicited the warmest expression of gratitude from th e workin g classes of that countr y . Th e question having been put , Mr. FOX ?MULE said he could not proceed to state his own opinions on this sulbjecLtowdithfourt the e pressing his . manner in which he bad introduced So far from opposing the motion the Government bt would u d give the Noble Lord every assistance power in carrying out his grateful thanks tointhetheNiroi ogled. might appear pre Government of seizing this d g i s ys the question. There might be those who would accuse the . He would n ot now enter into the subject, as it jv s opportunity for issuing another Commission, but he could t h Q 41 0 8 t cgouorpical mariner consistclit with its efli. assure the House that the inquiry suould Is,: conducted in_ ciency. Our population was annually increasing , and if I we desired that this country should for the - future he pros perous, it was their duty to attend to tie training of the rising generation, to protect them from the tyranny of their parents, and from the tyranny of their masters. It would be premature to advert to the mea.q4res which would be the result of this inquiry, but he felt convinced that some mea sure would be necessary. In the conduct of the in quiry much would depend upon the willingness with which information was afforded, and he trusted that every one would feel it his duty to furnish the Comission ers with every information in his power. He would pledge himself that the inquiry should be as full and as perfect, and should take place as early as possible. VIL LIE RS thought the Noble Lord was entitled to the gratitude of the country for the manner in which he had brought forward this subject. Ile thought the Noble Lord bad not gone far enough. The conduct of the poor was to be traced to the circumstances in which they were placed. The real cause of the oresent state of the poor was a want of employment and of a sufficient command over the necessaries of life. This it was that compelled them to toil so many hours, and almost to bring their children into the market for sale.—(llLar, hear.) He believed that the inquiry would be of great benefit, as it would bring the condition of the people under the notice of the country ; he therefore thanked the Noble Lord for bringing forward the motion, and the Government for ac ceding to it. Mr. H UNI E agreed with every word which bad fallen from the lion. Gentleman who had preceded him. Ile trusted the inquiry would lay bare the causes of the poverty of the people; he hoped it would show the Noble Lord that his support of the monopoly of the Corn-laws was one of the main sources of the misery of the working people of this country. The Corn-laws took from the many and gave to the few—they were therefore against the law of God. The Noble Lord then ought, in honesty, to vote for the repeal of the Corn-laws in order to take from the parents the necessity of employing their children in the manner deprecated. Dr. NIC HOLL denied that the children were em ploy ed in public works on account of the small wages of the parents. He spoke from his own knowledge that where the: parent was earning from 355. to 505., his children were employed in works where they could get wages. Lord A SHL E Y would not reply, but merely return his thanks to the Hon. Under Secretary of the Home De partment for the humane acquiescence in his motion. The motion was then agreed to, Mr. HUM E, in the absence of the Hon. Member for Greenock, moved, " That an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she will be graciously pleased to refuse her consent to the filling up of any vacancies which may occur in the stipendiary office of Sheriff Prin cipal, or Non-resident County Judge in Scotland, until in quiry shall have been made by a Committee of this House, or by a Commission, into the propriety of longer applying public money for the maintenance of this nearly sinecure office, the duties of which are chiefly performed by a deputy, whom the principal Judge appoints, which deputy is not only a stipendiary county Judge, with a salary paid out of the Exchequer, but a Judge holding the highest station in each county as a resident Magistrate, exercising an extensive and highly important judicial jurisdiction. And that her Majesty will further direct inquiry into the nature and extent of the evils which have been inflicted on Scotland, in consequence of the Chief County Judge act ing by deputy, which renders it necessary to conduct law suits in writing, to the exclusion of viva voce proceedings in the County Courts of Scotland, the want of which, in these Courts of Justice, adds greatly to the delays and expense of litigation, and creates great dissatisfaction amongst the people." The time had now come when sinecures of all kinds ought to be abolished. Mr. EA STHOPE seconded the motion. The Lord ADVOCATE was under the necessity of opposing the motion. The system of Sheriffship in Scot land, was acknowledged to be the best part of the Judicial system in that country. Mr, HUME denied that the present system gave ge neral satisfaction, as was evidenced by a petition which he presented only a few days ago from Paisley, signed by upwards of 800 persons, complaining of the present system of pleading, &c. The motion was negatived without a division. Mr. MACKINNON then rose to bring forward his motion relative to the health of towns, when An HoN. MEMBER moved the House should be counted, and there being only 23 Members present, the House adjourned at Half-past Six o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS, Auousr 4. ROYAL ASSENT. The House met to-day at a Quarter before Four o'Clock, when the Royal Assent was given by Commission to the following Bills : To Regency Bill, Soap Duties Bill, Assessed Taxes Composition Bill, Parliamentary Boroughs Bill, Poor law Commission Bill, Insane Prisoners Bill, West India, &c. Relief Bill, Eastlndia Mutiny Bill, Blenheim Palace Bill, Turnpike Trusts Bill, Turnpike Acts Continuance Bill, Caledonian Canal Bill, Canals Police Bill, Toll on Lime Bill, Settled Estates Drainage Bill, Entailed Es tates (Scotland) Bill, Prisons (Ireland) Bill, Turnpike Acts Continuance (Ireland) Bill, Newgate Gaol (Dub. lin) Bill, Clyde Navigation Bill, Dundalk Harbour Bill, Herculaneum Docks (Regulation) Bill, Harrington Dock Company Bill, Exeter Market Bill, Erskine ( Western) and Dumbarton Ferry Bill, Hereford Improvement Bill, Wea:•cr Churches Bill, Monmouthshire Iron and Coal Company Bill, Lord Douglas' Estate Bill, Chambers' Estate Bill, Gregson's Estate Bill, Whalley's Estate Bill, Earl of Scarborough's Estate Bill, Lord Vault of Harrow den's Estate Bill, Duke of Bridgewater's Estate Bill, Grant's Divorce Bill, Close's Divorce Bill, Trafford's Divorce Bill. The Commissioners were—.the Lord Chancellor, the Marquis of Lansdowne, the Marquis of Normanby, the Earl of Clarendon, and the Earl of Shaftesbury. Their Lordship& then adjourned during pleasure. Their Lordships met again at Five o'Clock. Lord DA CRE presented a petition from Bishop's Stort furd against idolatry in India. The Militia Ballot Suspension Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed. ADMIRALTY COURTS' BILL. Lord PORTNI AN rn)ved the third reading of the Ad miralty Courts' Bill. Lord BROUGHAM did not rise for the purpose of opposing the third reading of the Bill, but merely to draw their Lordships' attention to the fact that, though in the present Bill they prohibited the Judge of the Admiralty Court from sitting in Par liament, yet in the Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Bill they allowed the Recorder of Dublin, to sit in the Housa of Commons. The Noble Lord thought that ought not to be permitted, and he trusted that at an early period of the next Session a measure would be brought forward to exclude all judicial officers from sitting in the Houso of Commons. After a few observations from Lord LYNDHURST, the Bill was read a third tim e and passed. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. Mr. BERNAL and other Members of the House of Com mons brought up the Consolidated Fund Bill, the Ex chequer Bills Bill, the Postage Bill, the Dublin Police Bill, and one or two other Bill s. On the motion of Viscount DUNCANNON the Metro polis Improvements Bill, th e S ugar Duties Bill, the Court H ouses (Ireland) Bill, and the Insolvent DAtors (India) Bill, were severally read a third tim e and passed. NEW SOUTH WALES BILL. Viscount DUN CANNON moved the second reading of the New South Wales Van Diemen's Land Bill, which was agreed to. pamphlets, all condemnatory of the publication in question,•and he distinctly sated that he was not aware of the libellous character of the Letters until the evening when he was arrested. He further stated that he had, since then, wholly refrained from the sale of those publication;. Sir C. Shaw corroborated the main facts in Heywood's memo tie% and his representations had great weight with him (the Marquis of Normanby) in the course he had adopted. He said that Heywood had materially assisted him in pre serving the peace of the town of Manchester during the previous winter, at a time of great political excitement and alarm. He believed that Heywood had been uncon sciously made the instrument of the publication of the work in question, and he therefore decided, that if Hey wood would enter into an engagement not to publish such works in future, that he would be justified in letting him off without further punishment, believing at the same time that be would thereby best serve the object an must have in view, namely, the suppression of such blasphemous pub lications. Now what were the facts? Why, that publica tions of the nature that had been adverted to are very sensibly on the decrease, and so far, therefore, the course he had adopted had tended to produce the result which he desired. With regard to the petition which the Right Rev. Prelate had presented, he believed it did not gene rally represent the feelings of the people of Manchester, who were desirous of putting an end to such publications. As the Right Rev- Prelate had therefore said, it must be taken to be only the petition of the two individuals who had signed it. He had spoken with some warmth on this subject, but he felt indignant at the manner in which the Right Rev. Prelate had imputed motives to him, while lie had acted upon an impression of what was right, from the facts that had been brought before him. The Bishop of EXETER felt bound after what had been said by the Noble Marquis, to say a few words. With respect to one of the statements which the Noble Marquis had represented him to have made, he must say that what be stated was, and it was what he would state again, that under such circumstances for the two Mem bers for Manchester, and the one for Salford, to go to the Secretary of State with a memorial—such a case was, though not in words, saying we are three of us. As to the words the Noble Marquis had used of contempt in this case, he would not drive them back upon him. He had no contempt for the Noble Marquis—he had no contempt for any one, but he must repeat what the Noble Marquis had said. He had charged him with extreme inaccuracy for denying that it was at the last Quarter Sessions this occurred. Now, what was the fact ? Why, the Noble Marquis himself had admitted that such was the case. The Noble Marquis had stated that he had been told that the individual was not an habitual blasphemous publisher; if any person had told him so, he had had it in his power to contradict him, for he had sent to him from a Magistrate, of Manchester, depositions which proved distinctly that this person was the guilty cognizant publisher of these blasphemous publications. The publications were sent to the Home-office with the depositions, so that the Noble Marquis could not be ignorant of the whole circumstances of the case. He would tell the Noble Marquis, in answer to what lie had stated with respect to him, that the coun try would feel they had not a Government that would pro tect the morals and religion of the people, when persons high in office pursued such a course as the Noble Marquis had done, In a matter of such vital importance. The Noble Marquis knew that in this very neighbourhood the most frightful, odious, and immoral discourses were re cently delivered. At Ham Common, on Sunday last, a meeting was held, of which the Noble Marquis was pre_ viously informed,. and at which, no doubt, he had persons present who gave him an account of what passed there. He, (the Bishop of Exeter) had received a communication from a person who asked Robert Owen, on that occasion, " Is a man at liberty to put away his wife at will ?" and Mr. Owen answered " Yes."—( A laugh.) The person asked " If man was responsible for his actions ?" Mr. Owen answered, " No ; not even for murder, or for any other crime." And he illustrated it by holding up a decanter and glass of water, saying, " Man is no snore responsible for his actions than this tumbler and this glass is responsible for the water which I put into it." That was the language held on Ham Common on Sunday last. He himself had called the attention of the Noble Marquis to the character of the publications exposed for sale in the shop of Hetherington, in the Strand, so far back as April last ; but he had heard nothing of a prosecution since that time. He hoped, however, it was only through the law's delay, and not through any intention to abandon the prosecution. One of those publications, entitled, " The New Ecce Homo," in which there was a repre sentation of a man pointing to a broken sceptre and a broken cross, and saying, " Break the cross—it is the priest; break the sceptre—it is the king." In the case of Heywood, the Noble Marquis objecte to the evidence of the Rev. Mr. Stowell, because ho was himself at the time under prosecution for a libel. He (the:Bishop of Exeter) had ascertained that Mr. Stowell was a clergyman of much zeal and piety, and had exerted himself to check the pro gress of Roman Catholic doctrines in this country, for which, perhaps, the Noble Marquis might not be disposed to think the better of him.—( A laugh.) The alleged libel consisted in his having stated that a man named John O'Hara had been ordered by a priest to do public penance by walking upon his hands and knees upon the high-road. The statement was borne out by the policemen who found the man in that position, and who, in the execution of their duty, removed him, having received from him the account of his conduct, for mentioning which Mr. Stowell was prosecuted. But the action was not brought until the man was in a lunatic asylum, and could not be pro duced as a witness. The Marquis of NORMA NB Y replied, that with re spect to the books published by Heywood, and sent by the petitioners to him, they had been submitted to the Law Oilicera of the Crown, who would take what steps they thought fit concerning them. The only answers which he had received from the Lords-Lieutenant to his Circular on the subject of blasphemous writings and discourses, led him to believe that the Socialist system had sunk into con , tempt or oblivion. The Bishop of EXETER said that four months had elapsed since the papers were put into the hands of the Law Officers of the Crown, and he asked would the House endure such a case being treated so slightly ? He never saw public justice so much outraged as it was by the Noble Marquis. Lord DUNCANNON moved the second reading of the Pilots Bill. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that the Noble Lord was mistaken in supposing that the abuse which the Bill removed from the pilotage of the Cinque Ports con sisted in any privilege of the pilots, but in a privilege of the inhabitants, which was a fraud upon the pilots, as it enabled the former to navigate their own vessels without employing the latter. The fraud was carried to a great extent, as it enabled shipowners from other ports to de fraud the pilots of the Cinque Ports by making any one of the resident inhabitants a partner. lie thought that those poor men ought to be protected.—(Hear, hear.) They could not give these men compensation because they were only paid for the labour they did, and they did not choose to employ that labour. He should like another mode of making the arrangement, but he should not oppose the present Bill. Viscount DUNCANNON said the Bill was merely a temporary one. The Bill was then read a second time. The Slave Trade Treaties Bill was read a second time. The Attorneys and Solicitors Ireland Bill was read a second t ape. The Isle of Man Bill, the Slave Trade Treaties Bill ( Venezuela), the Joint Stock 13anking Bill, the Bank of Ireland Bill, the Population (Ireland) Bill were respec tively read a second tone. The Municipal Districts ( Ireland) Bill was read a third time. Their Lordships th en reso l ve d t h emse l ves i nto Com- M I?. HEYWO 0 D. mince on the Church Temporalities ( Ireland) Bill, which The Bishop of EXETER, ; Noble see.ng the Marquis, was reported without amendments. the Secretary for the Home Department in his place, CLERGY RESERVES. would beg leave to present a petition gravely affecting the Their Lordships then resolved themselves into Commit interests of morality and religion, and the character of the tee on the Clergy Reserves ( Canada) Bill. Noble Marquis himself. In consequence of what had Lord ELLEN BOROUG El said it would be desirable passed in this House in reference to the horrible system of that the proceeds ariiing from the sale of the land should Socialism, committees of respectable persons were formed not be invested in the colonial funds. Their investment in various parts of the country, for the purpose of checking in the funds of this country would produce but small effect the progress of blasphemous and immoral societi es . From upon t h e pr i ce of the public securities, but in Canada this one of those Committees the petition was forwarded t o investment would place it in the power of the Governor him, which he had now to present. The Committee . as t o affect the price of colonial securities to an immense Wesleyan ministers, two solicitors, five extent. I t wou ld ac t as a s i n ki ng f un d , an d ma k e it a composed of two inhabitants of Manchester, a nd f o u r o th er l a y men , li e desirable speculation for any persons to advance money as referred to the case of one Abel Heywo o d, who was p ro _ a loan to the Government: but when this sinking fund scented for a blasphemous libel to this etTect—" Wh a t ceased, the prices of the funds would fall, and the pro wretched stuff the Bible is I Would it not b e a di sgrace v i s i on f or th e Clergy would, in fact, amount to nothing. to a race of ourang outangs, much less t o men ? i t i s a Ile therefore proposed to introduce a clause authorising libel upon God and insult to man ; and every copy of it in her Majesty to give her assent to a Bill for the payment existence ought to be burned." Teis man was pro- of the proceeds to the Governor and Council for invest • ecuted, but at the trial he was persuaded (at the avowed went, the interest on such investments to be paid prefer instance of the Government) to plead guilty ; whereupon ably to any other. The great object of the province was the Queen's Counsel declined t o press for a punishment, to sell these reserves, and to have the funds to apply to and the defendant was liberated upon his oen affidavit, that the purpose of the completion of a ship canal ; now this he had discontinued and had ordered his servants to discos- proviso would enable them to accomplish this, and it tinue the sale of th e libel. But the fact was would also place the provision for the clergy upon a per that he had immediately resumed the sale of bias- manent footing of security. Ile thought it advisable to phemous libels, with which he (the Bishop of Exeter) give the Colonial Legislation the power of passing an Act would not insult the ears of their Lordships, and the fact of for this purpose, without coming to the Imperial Perlis his having done so had been communicated to the Noble went for that purpose. Ile proposed to limit the interest Marquis by one of the petit i oners . The interest o f t h e to fi ve per cen t. as a fair rat e ; un d e r the cir cums t ances two Member s f or Manchester, and also of the Mem- he thought it would not he , right to ask for more. ber for Salford, h a d b een exe rted with the Noble Marquis Viscount MELBOURNE doubted whether the House apprehend . that the in favour of this m an , w h o wa s not 014 a vender but a n was competent to E in o tr i e z d o ue u e l s i uc d h id a n cl o a t use. habitual vender of blasphemous publications. He impious clause Lord ELLEN of the aware Commons.all interfere with the privileges of the say that those gentlemen were character of the man, but the SETON . said . he had no doubt but that this Noble Marquis was so, charged Ho L u o se rd of it was highly reprehensible for the person who was char will the guardianship of the peaceand morale of the com- Bill would be received with the greatest joy throughout him province, and would munity, to allow parliamentary interest to influence in the put an end to the agitation which had existed such a case as this. The petition prayed his their ea . Lordships for years e ars past Earl of to institute an inquiry into the facts of t most se anxious RIPON entertained some doubts as to the to policy of the clause, inasmuch it • ' The Marquis of NORM ANB Y w as ,! of as dep wed the Church of take the earliest opportunity of giving the must ee pi anae a ny power purchasing land either as an investment, or tion of his conduct in the ease referred to, but befor e h e for the purpose of building churches or glebe houses. He did so he begged leave to repudiate with contempt, con-did not, however, press his objection. 'on of the Right Rev. Lord ELLE NBO ROUG II said the clause was merely eisteatly with his respect fir the state he had been Prelate, the insinuation he had thrown out that permissive, and not compulsory. operated upon in the discharge of his d ut y b y the a ppl i ca - Lop! SEATON said th a t i n no one year h a d t h e w h o l e tion of three Me m b ers o f P ar li a ment. 'I rue, three gentle- of the reserves ordered for sale been purchased. fie men had presented petitions on the subject of Abel Heywood, should prefer investing the proceeds in British securities. but, as their Lordships must well know, they had merely done The Archbishop of CANTERBURY had felt himself as any other Members of Parliament who were entrusted authorized in assenting to the Bill with a view of pacifying with the preservation of petitions to the Home-offioe would the Province, but he regretted extremely the state of spi have done. H e had stated to them that he could give ritual destitution in which the Province was left. There them no answer then, as the case of Heywood were whole masses who sometimes did not sea a minister was under consideration, and he would act in a of the Gospel once in fourteen days. Some portions of great measur e upon the Report that would be made the Provin ce were i n a s t a te of act ua l h ea th en i sm , an d i t to him. Previously to that time he had received a memo- . was to be regretted that no further provision was made for 14 vial f rom Heywood, and he had transmitted it to Sir ' the extension of religious instruction, than that arising Charles Sh aw, for the purpose of having the facts r f rom the sale of the Clergy Reserves. The Church of therein contained investigated. The defendant stated , England i n t h e P rov i nces re ceived at pr e s en t a bo u t that a pro secut i on had been instituted aga i ns t him I 16,000/. a year, a most wretched pittance, and which, for having published Haslarn's Letters to the Clergy until sea f li . WU was daily diminishing. Un g o t is i of all denominations, which he bad afterwards discovered der th ill the share of the Church of England, would contained a blasphemous libel. The Right Hon. Prelate not exceed 25,000/. a year. He trusted the Government had very unwarrantably contradicted a statement made would take the state of spiritual destitution of the Pro by him when, he ventured to set hi m ri g ht as vince into th e i r mo st anxious consideration, and not to subject to the ti me at which the prosecution was instituted, j this country to that curse which must fall upon it if it ne. but it app eare d the Right Honoura bl e P re l ate was not glected the most important interests of such a large mass justified by the fact in so doing. The petitioner stated of its subjects. He thought the amendment proposed by that he was a general publisher for the sale of all tie- his Noble Friend was liable to the objection brought ' 1 seriptione of books except those of an immoral or against it by the Noble Earl. He should be sorry to see obscene character, and . that he had sofa five differeot , the proceeds invested in Colonial securities of any sort. 1 He wished that the funds had been placed at the disposa of the Church itself, to be invested as the Church night think fit. The evil of this Bill was, that it made the Church for ever a burthen upon the funds of the country, and it would be subjected to unpopularity on that account. He would rather have been committed them to the care of the Society which had done so much for the Province. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but no division took place, the clause (we believe) being negatived with out a division. CLAIMS OF THE SPANISH The Bishop of EXETER complained that under the clause one-tenth of the funds to be raised by the sale of the Reserves was to be given to the Roman Catholic Clergy—and that was out of funds laid aside specially by Act of Parliament for the support of Protestantism. They were going to force it upon the Catholics too, for they did not ask for :t ; but in au address to Lord Durham the Ca tholics of Upper Canada disclaimed the right to partici pate in these funds. lie moved the insertion of the word Protestant in the third clause. Lord ELL ENBOROUGH said if they took away any portion of the bounty of the Crown now enjoyed by the Catholics in Upper Canada, they could not by any pos , ii, bility expect tranquillity; they would immediately raise a Catholic question in Canada, the end of which could not be foreseen. Viscount MELBOURNE opposed the amendment upon the very grounds stated by the Noble Lord, and he most earnestly entreated the House not to accede to the intro duction of the word which would create immediate dis session. The Earl of RIPON considered the whole of the Bill as a sort of csmpromise which gave to the Church rights to which she was not now entitled. He thought it would be unwise to leave any matter rankling in the minds of any portion of the people. lie therefore opposed the amendment. The Bishop of EXETER, contended that if the Go vernment was pledged to support., the Catholics, let them go to Parliament and ask for the means to redeem the pledge, but do not let them steal those funds which were especially set apart for the support of Protestantism. Strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House di vided, when there oppeared— For the amendment l7 Against it 27 Majority The clauses were then agreed to. The House resumed. The Report to be received to-morrow. The Stock. in-trade Bill was abandoned, as it was con sidered that some of the words went too far in exempting property from being rated. A temporary Bill would be introduced to-morrow. Lord BROUGHAM presented petitions from Bishop's Stortford and Glasgow, in favour of the Affirmation Bill. Lord MONTE AGLE presented petitions of a simi lar nature, and then moved the second reading of the Bill. The Noble Lord stated that the Bill was for the purpose of relieving those persons who, having been Quakers or Moravians, had joined the Church of England, but still had a conscientious objection to taking an oath. The Bill had been drawn up by Mr. Baron Alderson, who had seen the evils caused by the want of such a measure, and he believed that it met with the general approbation of the Learned Judges. The Duke of WELLINGTON entreated their Lord ships to pause before they passed the present Bill, and to recollect that the basis of all justice was truth, which was generally obtained more effectually through the solemnity of an oath than without it. He was afraid if the present Bill passed they would shake the foundation of justice, added to which he thought a measure like the present ought to be introduced at an earlier period of the Session. The Noble Duke concluded by moving that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. Lord BROUGHAM supported the principle of the Bill, but he should have been more pleased with the mea sure if it had been without the test, which was provided by it. Approving of the principle of the Bill, he should vote with his Noble Friend, who had xaovcd its second reading. Lord L YNDHURST had a very great aversion to the Bill, and every person who knew anything of the ad ministration of justice must know that the security which it was said was introduced in the Bill was a mere mockery. He thought the Noble Lord opposite could not be serious when he said that this Bill had been drawn by a Learned Baron, for to him it appeared to be full of absurdities. The Earl of DEVON objected to the Bill, as it intro duced a system of giving evidence in criminal cases with out the sanction of an oath. Lord MONTE AGLE replied, and, after a few observa tions from Lord LYNDHURST, the Bill was withdrawn. LAW OF EVIDENCE (SCOTLAND) BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the third read ing of the Law of Evidence ( Scotland) Bill. The Earl of HADDINGTON opposed the motion. All ho asked of their Lordships was to inquire if it would be safe to introduce so much of the law of England, or any part of it, into the present system of judicature in Scotland. He moved that the Bill be read a third time this day three months. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the Bill had been introduced early in the Session, and had been sub jected to investigation in Scotland, after which it had gone through Committee in this House. He could not, there fore, admit that it was proposed to pass it without in quiry. He did not know what could be gained by delay, except to defeat the Bill for the present Session. The Noble Earl could not say tha Bill had not been discussed, for on the question of the second reading, the Noble Earl, calculating upon a majority upon his own side of the House, which was always greater than he (the Lord Chancellor) could command upon his side, brought for ward an amendment similar to his present one, that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. But before the Noble Earl had concluded his arguments against the measure, his majorities, which were dwindling away during his speech, vanished_ from his sight, and the Noble Earl did not think proper to divide the House.—( Hear, hear.) Ile regarded the question as one of great impor tance to the administration of justice in Scotland, and he trusted that their Lordships would pass the Bill. The Marquis of NORM ANB Y, in support of the Bill, instanced the recent case of the Dalrymples, in which the only witnesses who could prove the mitigated character of an act of homicide, were relations of the accused, and in capacitated to give evidence in his favour. In that case he (the Marquis of Normanby) was induced by other cir cumstances to mitigate the sentence passed upon Dal rymple. But the whole of the facts were of such a nature as convinced him that the law ought to be altered, and he hoped the Bill would pass. Lord WHA RNCLIFFE would support the amend ment, because the members of the Scotch bar were not prepared for the proposed alteration in the law of evi dence ; and the whole subject required more considera tion than had been given to it. The Earl of HADDINGTON said that the Faculty in Scotland had expressed themselves favourable to a modi fication of the existing law, but they never would consent to so sweeping an alteration as this Bill proposed. He repeated that all he asked fur was the delay of a few months to give time fur a full consideration of the subject. He should feel it his duty to divide the House. It had been said that the Bill passed the House of Commons without oppositi on . B ut t h at was no t the f ac t, f or i t was very much resist e d th ere , an d by a gentleman wh o h a d filled the office of Lord Advocate. Lord CLARENDON said that it was very irregular to refer to what had occurred in the House of Commons. After a few words further in explanation from the Earl of HA DDING TON, strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when the numbers were, For the third reading Against it ... Majority —4 The Bill was then rcai a third time and passed. On the motion of the Earl of CLARENDON, the Railways Bill, after a few words from the Marquis of SA LISIIUISV and Lord WIIARNCLIFFE, who supported the principle of the Bill, was read a second time. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that the railways had now a monopoly of the principal carrying trade throughout the country, and they ought to be placed more under the control of the Government than they were by this Hear.) They had driven all other carriers off the roads. Their bye-laws were not sufficient for the pro tection of the public, and the inspectors ought to have greater powers than the Bill gave them. Lord CLARENDON said that the Bill was only an experimental measure; and if it was not found to be suf ficient, it would be amended and enlarged. The Earl of GLENG ALL said that the monopoly of the railways was intolerable. Nothing could be more scandalous than tue mode of car . , ing goods under the present system. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Thursday next. PAROCHIAL ASSESSMENT BILL. The Earl of DEVON moved the second reading of this Bill. Lord PORTMAN moved that it be read a second time this day six months. The Marquis of SALISBURY and Earl lIARDWICKE sup ported the amendment, and the Bill was withdrawn. LOAN SOCIETIES BILL. Lord NIONTEAGLE moved the Order of the Day For the Committee on this Bill. The Marquis of SALISBURY said that the Act which was passed to facilitate the formation of Loan Societies was intended to facilitate charitable loans. But he be lieved that those societies were now obtaining usurious interest. He would propose in the Committee that the rate of interest should be reduced from 15 to 10 per cent. He would also propose that those societies should not hold their meetings in public-houses, as he believed that where they were so held a great part of the loan was expended in drinking. The Duke of WELLINGTON concurred in the ob servations of his Noble Friend. Lord MONTE AG LF, was only desirous that the Bill should go into Committee, in which its details would be considered, and the suggestions of every Noble Lord would be attended to. He was as willing as his Noble Friend to lower the rate of interest, and he would not object to take the Bill as only a temporary measure, to be revised next year. But he was convinced at present, that to reduce the rate of interest below 15 per cent. would be making too large a step at first. If such a reduction were made without further inquiry, the whole object of the mea sure would be hazarded. The House then went into Committee, and the pream ble was agreed to. On the motion of the Alarquis of SALISBURY, clause 6 was omitted. On the motion of the NOBLE MARQUIS, clause 10, which gave a power to two Justices of summary conviction of borrowers and sureties guilty of fraud, was also omitted. After a few words from Lord MONTEAGLE and the Marquis of SALISBURY, the rate of interest, as set forth in clause 22, was altered from 15 per cent. to 12 per cent. A clause was then agreed to limiting the operation of the Bill to the close of the next Session of Purliament, The House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be brought up to morrow. The other orders were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter pat Eleven. AUXILIARY LEGION. We received the following letters on MondlY but want of space prevented their earlier appearance our columns : TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. 26, Devonshire-place, Aug. 4 ' Sin—As your sympathy for the persecutions of the officers and men of the British Auxiliary Legion , or (laced you to insert and advocate in your Liberal J'll re nal of the pith ult., my letter in their behalf, miY I beg of you the favour of granting admittance to the anonl: panying copy of a letter addressed to the Times, in c ° , ll sequence of a most extraordinary misrepresentation b y that paper of my intentions. I apprehend little doubt but that the Times Wil l iry cart it also, as the only just retribution which it ea° offer for its mis-statements ; but as it is much more difficult to counteract the effect of an evil report than it is to give currency to it, I am induced again to 3 r peal to your kindness from an anxiety for my own c hi. ratter and the cause which I advocate. I have the honour to be, Sir, Your most obedient and much obliged servant, CHARLES COCHRANE' TO THE EDITOR. OF THE TIMES. j Sup— My attention having been last Saturday direct e .,, by a friend, to your paper of the 28th ult., vthe re !," there is a second article on the subject of my letter I° behalf of of the original claimants of the British Legi' th I take the earliest opportunity of correcting a v ry serious mis-statement of my views into which you kW" so strangely to me, allowed yourself to be misled. o f When you impeached my judgment in your par:, 3 the 24th, I remained mute, inasmuch as I thougn'if possible I was in error, although I could not rid 10°, 4 of the suspicion, that you had, from the tenor of Pr e remarks, most widely misconceived my intentions; at, t b ' e same time I saw a little difficulty in conveying t° Editor of so powerful a Paper as your own, that it ,` l 'd possible he had committed a mistake—but when I n ° you have actually misrepresented in your Paper of ,0 28th ultimo, the integrity of the principles on which 513 e letter was founded, it is quite time that I should 1 311 Lit stop to such a proceedin g , as 1 conce i ve it a like PM": dicial to my character as a m an o f h onour , an d the : li i i . ; happy cause of the deserted claimants that I am an ll°- to advocate. You say, under the bead of your City article, " that ml letter which appeared last week recommended the 51) 0 "; nislc Government not to pay an y thi ng t o those per s° ", § who have purchased Certificates of pay and allowan c without the consent of the holders." I herewith set t , you another printed copy of my letter, and after on % t tentive perusal of the same, I ch a llenge you to 1 )31 0 . out to me a paragraph embodying so dishonoura ble o a so absurd a recommendation. The argument 8 0 0 groundwork of my letter hinged wholly and soleli od three simple words, " through British mediation , I ' r which, in order to avoid the p oss ibility of a, Ift conception, were printed in italics—and so secure against the liability of misconstruction or P ii . representation, that I by no means considered it ae c 'b, sary to occupy more of the valuable columns of the lic Journals by enlarging on this point. British ille t ! I 0 1 tion has taken place from a sympathy to the orie l e j claimants ; and the Spanish Government has CO ter o ; upon its present financial arrangement, to its very r a - ai inconvenience and the sacrifice of all other clainthir" be a similar humane feeling ; theref o re I argued, that t, purchasers were bound in common honesty, as the c„ e tf tificates had thereby become s o v e ry va l ua ble, to o n ?i, the original claimants a portion of' the benefit of nr,_ ills o mediation. If the purch aser wou ld no t con sent co ti' e te terms he inflicts a twofold injury on the unfortt° claimant. In the first instance the mi ser i es o f th e claimant to' able him (the purchaser) to become the possessor of certificate for a very trifling sum ; and in the se cond 0 , stance a sympathy for the miseries of the claimant re po ders this certificate, according to the opinion of Si r o r Lacy Evans, fully worth the whole nominal val ue ' 100 per cent. A to In a case which was on l y f our d ays ago subinitte,"nse me by an officer, a Capt a i n i n th e B r i t i s h L e gion.v i " w of necessities compelled him to part with his cer tifiettt e , ;( o 200/. for 28/. ss. 6d., pr ev i ous t o B r i t i s h m ediai',h °- having taken place, th e p urc h aser w ill now get tbr();t3,:uf British sympathy a c l ear p ro fi t o f 1711 . 14s. 6d. the interest of the purchase money. to If you will take the trouble, as I have dan e ' te s, inquire into the conditi ons o f th e sa l es o f c ertific a " o e you will find that the amoun t g i ven fl uc t ua te be tty of 12/. and 19/. for every hundred. The only sYs tc h ill jfi , compulsion which I recommended was to the Spn,,lir nister and the British AuthoritieS, and that referrec l6 `: l A sively to the payment of money rased through P r t i e l of mediation." If the purchasers thought it consi s t o with common honesty and common fair dealing an, t he e allow their victims to p a rti c ip a t e i n th e ir profits , ' o bi my letter implied that the usurious purchasers sb i ° be be forbidd en th e b ene fi t o f B r iti s h me di a ti o n. a v h i-b compelled to nego t i a t e th emse l ves w ith th e SP 3 ",.t ' i. Government at M a drid f or th e p a y men t o f these cosh ficates, in the same mann er as th e unfortunate SP3-eirit bondholder s h ave b een o bli ge d to d o for the Wrili-ost of the interest of their bonds. Their stock 'slee t enough, God kn ows ; t h e i r money was gencro uslY ni ;11 w in a good cause , an d w i t h the best inient ions. i a ti ma certainly think every h onest man w i ll agree— that they h ave a pr i or i ty of r i ght to demand 13 n r the mediation in their behalf over those speculator s re miseries and misfortunes of the British Legion. d v a , gret, Sir, that justice to myself and the cause I it • e 0 . eate will not admit o f m y com p ress i ng m y 0 113111un' bort, tion into a s ma ll er com p ass , b u t w h e th er l o ng °r iv I am convin c ed y our l ove o f f a i r d ea li ng w ill git r ,'e, t ' sr at. sertion, and if pl a ced und er th e h ea d o f your City st. tick, I assure you I sh a ll no t now a pp re hend th o cisms of your practical City'readers. I have the honour to be, Sir, Your's, very faithfully, ,-, A p NE' CHARLES COCHLt' 26, Devonshire-place, Monday, Aug. 3, 1840. if t here HISTORY OF THE B RITISH T URF .- --4 : h far t is one impo r t an t nat i ona l pursuit, for excellence in whit i> t 10; land is disting u i s h e d a b ove all contemporary nations , it, which is included in the phrase " 'I he British Ter f ' t h a t r e ; stvemacy in all th e varied particulars which make el! is i t° markable f ea t ure i n our national character and ha bits esp y , mend/ unapproached, it is undispi ted, by any other P f t berit . " The British Turf" is at once the envy and admiration ed all. It is hardly to be credited, therefore, that E r ,,eginrit i , s ;e this day without any written records relating to " t"' ut hen, Turf," beyond those desultory, anonymous, and enforot, notices of its daily-recurring details, which are scattereo It is ; the newspapers and sporting periodicals of the time. , wo r d remedy this deficiency in our national literature, that ti l sit le has been undertaken which is now announced under th e lace ° " The History of the British Turf." Its object is to P tiett lo: record, in a convenient and ava il a bl e f orm , ev ery P, Tai Pr. ° „ Listorical as well as well a s d escr ipt ive , popu l ar as %,"e". 5 ( 1e5 1. 5 fessional, connected with " Th e B r iti s h T ur f," whi ch c i n ero.,, fi l i able to be known to the l arge an d i n fl uen ti a l body more or less intimately associated with that pursuit, Oi ls , may possess an interest for the community at large• ti t ' e , portance and utility of such a n undertaking will puted ; the difficulties which have s t oo d i n th e way ei, it ~ „, e cution, and the care, resea rc h, an d l a b our w hi c h have e t 'fb ployed in overcoming them, mus t h ave b een very greas ing o writer of " The History of the B r iti s h T ur f," in ",,f 0r e ,.,. work to the attention of the A r i s t ocracy an d Gentry el l Britain generally, and to the Sporting portion of thorn e s opi , titular, will doubtless me e t w ith the favour and patren a g it inay be found to deserve. 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