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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF PEERS. MONDAY, JULY 7. Judgment was given 'on the Motionof Lord A LE!IBOROUGH, in the Appeal " draham v. the Conn tess.DoWager of Glencairn,", affirming the Decree of the Court of Session, with 1001. costs. In the Appeal " Rennie v. Tod and others," the Lord Advocate of Scotland and Mr. Adam were heard for the Appellant. Further hearing to-mor- row. Mr. HOBHOUSIi, and several' other Members of the House of Commons, brought up the Training Bill, and the Militia Ballot Bill which were read a first time, and ordered to be printed on the motion of,Earl Spencer, who gave notice of ,his intention to move the second reading of •the Training Bill on Thursday next, fOr which day the Lords were or dered to be surnii - ioned. . • The Customs‘ Fees Bill was , read a third time and passed. The Irish Spirits, Duty ColleEtion Bill, the As ,sesse‘d Taitel Allowances Bill, the Irish Customs' Bill, •and the Irish ,Poor Bill; were read a second time and committed for to-morrow. The Earl of SUF FOLK said a few words'respeaing the situation of 'the Poor of England. This subje& had, he said, been taken up by an Hon. 'Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread) in the other House, but he never theleis intended to lay a Plan before their Lordships, which he had formed - , for the. - better Relief of the Poor. Lord WALSINGHAM reported the Debtors' Relief Bill; the. Amendments to which were agreed,to. • Earl! FITZW ILLI A m 'presented, by .'His Majesty's command, the Papers respeaini Icidia, movecl'for on Tuesday hy the Earl of Westmorland, in the absence of Lord Melville.• • . Adjourned till to-morrow (this day). HOUSE OF COALTIO_VS. MONDAY, JULY 7. On the Motion of Mr. Alderman PRINCEP, the Smithfield Market Regulation Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to.a private Com- mittee. Mr. VANSITTART brought in Bills for consolidat ing the Land Tax Aas, and for augmenting,. Small Livings to tile Clergy out of the .Land Tax ; also, tbr an Issue of Exchequer Bills, on the credit of the Aids granted or to be granted for the year ; both of which were read a first time, and ordered to be read a second tune to-morrow. . Air. PETER Mot -a c postponed the consideration of the Report relative to the Calico Printers' Bill till to-morrow. In a Committee on the Silk Laws, a Resolution was proposed by Mr. VANSITTAIIT, and ageed to, granting a bounty of 331. (is. Bd.per cent. on the ex portation of all Silk manufadured in ,this Country,' as specified in the A& of Gee. I.—Report to-mor row. Sir JOHN SINCLAIR presented a. Petition from the Coinmissione , :s of the Northern Tights, praying for aid ; to which Mr.Vansittart signaled His Majesty's c.oncurrence. He then presented another Petition from the same Commissioners, for leave to bring in a Bill for granting a surniout of the Consolidated' Fund for the eredion of a Light-ththise on the Bell or Cape Rock. The Marquis ofDouglas, the Members of the North ern Couutie of England, and the Members for Scotland, were appointed . as a Committee to pre pare and. bring in the Bill. • On the Motion of Sir 3. SINCLAIR, the Accounts presented to the House of the Vessels navigating to and from the parts near the intended ereeiion, and the Report' of the former Committee on the same subjeCt, were referred to the Committee appointed to prepare the Bill, Mr. FELLOWES gave notice for to-morrow of a Motion - relative to the Non-resident Clergy. The Report of the Committee on the Lottery Aas was agreed to ; and it was ordered to be an instruc tion to the Committee on the Lottery Bill to intro duce provisions accordingly. The Report of the Re.solutions of, the Committee on the Excise A6ts was also agreed to, and similar instruEtions given as to them to the Committee on the Excise Duty Bill. In a Committee on the Irish Revenue A&s, a Re . - solution for their .farther continuance was agreed to. Report to-morrow. Earl Nelson's Annuity Bill was brought in, read a first, and ordered to' be read a second time to morrow. The Re . port of the Postage Bill was agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to morrow. The Quarantine Bill was read a second time, and ordered to .be committed to-morrow. As was also the Oil of Vitriol Bounty Bill. . The House went into a Committee on the Expir ingiLawS.—Ordered to be reported to-morrow. The then went into a Committee, in which it was resolved that French Wines, in bottles, or in flasks, be permitted to be imported from Ireland into .;ii-eat Britain in British or Irish Ships.—Report morrow. • In a Committee on the Newfoundland Fishery Acts, it was resolved that salted or piCkled salmon be imported free from duty into the Jslands of Jer sey and Guernsey froM Newfoundland and Labra dore. And that a bounty of 3s. per quintal be al lowed on all salted cod imported into these Islands from the same places.—Report to-morrow. In a Committee it was also resolved, that masts, yards, and bowsprits, the growth and manufa&ure of British Plantations in North America, be permit ted to be imported into this Country, duty free, in British. and Irish Ships., Also that fruit, wine, oil, salt, 8:c. the Koduce of those Plantations, be per- Witted to by imported into this Country from Malta and Gibraltar direa. Report to-morrow. The Irish Iload- Amendment .A.ccodpt Bill was read 4 third and time passed, _ _ Tile In4peetor General of, Irnporp and Exporp pre.sented aa account of the rinaotitY of C6rn and Grain iniporteci and exported to and Iron) . England 4ti Ireland for the last five years. • On the Motion of Mr. VosTg4 this Acconnt. ‘Pa4 ordered to be printed. Pn the Motion of Mr, INAtzcts, after a few worth 'rOm Mr. CARA ) the Insolvent Debtor,' Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-mor. roar. In a Committee on the Customs Bill, Resolutions were passed allowing the importation of raisins and figs from Ireland dtity free. Also allowing gun powder and arms to be imported from Ireland, duty free; extending the provisions for warehousing to other articles than those specified in the A&; and declaring that the additional duty of 15 per cent. does not extend to refined sugars, under the Mt of the 44th of the.King.—Report to-morrow. The MASTER of the ROLLS brought in Bills for augmenting. the Salaries of the Masters of Chancery, and for providing for those, who should be allowed to retire from the execution of that office-; also for in creasing the Salaries of , the Clerks in the Account ant's.dffice in the COurt of Chancery, and for pro viding Salaries to Additional Clerks. Both these were read .a first time, and ordered to be read a se cond-time to-morrow. He 4lso obtained leav'e to bring in a Bill for the better support of the Sworn Clerks .acid Solicitors in ChAncery. Mr. WHITBREAD postponed his Motion on the Report of the Committee appointed to examine the Journals of the House of Lords relative to the Trial of Lord Melville, and his consequent Motion for leave to bring in a Bill for better regulating the office of Treasurer of the Navy, till Friday. . . _ Sir JOHN • NEWPORT moved the Order of the Day for going into a Committee on the Corn Intercourse Bill.—The House having resolved itself into a Committee, . , Sir 1P CURTIS said, •he rose to objea to the Clause which direaed one 'general average of the price of Corn t 6 be taken for the whole of the United Empire. With respeal to the general ob jee-t of this Bill, viz. that of allowing a free inter course between Great Britain and Ireland, nobody could approve of it more than he did ; but the Clause relating to • the general average would, he contended,, alter the 'whdie . of our Corn Laws, and might be. produ6tive of the most injurious Conse quences. The .average of the pride of Cdrn was now taken in England' upon the priCes in the .13 Maritime Distri&s ; but if a general average was to be taken, including, Ireland and Scotland, it might keep the market too low,,and keep the Ports of this Country from being epened to importation, when from the price in Engrand they ought to be opened ; because; though the average price of England might be so high as to admit of importation, yet, by in cluding Ireland and Scotland, the average might be brought below the - price at which importation was perinitted. Upon these grounds he should move to omit the Clause respeding the average. Mr. FOSTER said, that although it was very desirable that there should be a free intercourse be tween Great Britain and Ireland, With respea to grain, yet if there were not some regulation adopted to govern their trade with, Foreign Countries also, • the greatest inconvpience might ensue. If there was a separate averke for each_Country, 'then the Ports of Ireland might be Open for exportation, while those of England were shut, and vice versa. The inconvenience of this' was obvicnis, because if the Ports of England were shut against exportation to Foreign Countries, and a those .of Ireland 'open, it would be very easy to take the corn from England to Ireland, and then export it. With respe& to importation, the ineom . reniencies were equally obvi ous. He was, therefore, fully convinced, after giv ing this subjeel the fullest consideration, that if this free intercourse was 'permitted, it would be t abso lutely necessary to establish one general average for tbe'whole of the Empire. But he really thought this subje& much toil important to be pressed for ward 'at this late period of the Session : much of the information which he had called for was not before the. House, and therefore he. thought it would be much better to postpone the Bill till next Session, when the subjeCt might be fully considered. Great Britain and Ireland had each profited under their own System, Of Corn Laws, and therefore Parlia- Usent . ought to be very cautious how it ventured to make alterations.. Upon the whole, he wished to retain the Clause respeaing the average ; if that was left out he should oppose the' Bill. Sir JOHN NEIPPORT said, that if it should be the opinion of Parliament to leave out the Clause respeffing the average, he saw no reason why the general objeet of the Bill, which every body seemed to approve 'of, viz. that of establishing a free inter course, between Great Britain and Ireland, should not be adopted. He agreed With the light Hon. Gentleman opposite to him, that there ought to' be a general average; but he by no means thought that such serious consequences most ensue if that Measure was not immediately adopted. If the House was not at present disposed to adopt the present Clauserespea. hig the average, he saw n 6 reason why that part of the subj'eet might not be deferred till next Session; but with respe& .to that part of. the Bill which went to establish a free intercourse in grain between the, two Countries, 'he believed it met with univer sal approbation ; and therefore he could not con ceive upon what grounds the Right Hon. Gentleman Wished to postpone it. It was a measure that na turally resulteil from the Union. between the two Countries, and he was only surprized that it had been, deferred so - long. Upon the whole he should support the Clause respeeting the average ; but if the Committee disapproyecl of that Clause, he Should still oppose deferring the great .objeat of the Bill till next. Session. - Mr. ROSE said he glid not think the House had information enough, before it to decide upon the question of the general average, an 4 he did not think it would be safe to pass the Bill with out it. Lord HENRY PETTY was of opinion. that the Question of Average might be postponed till next Session, but there was no reason for postponing the other part of the Bill. After a few words from Mr. Western, Mr. Perci val, and Le.;rd Castlereagh, the.GAllery was cleared for a div6ion ; we understood, (however, ,that it was re agreed to leave out the Clause sp;y: ting the Ave rage ; but upon the q1;0 . ::tion of the Cl airman leav ing the Chair, the Goairuittee divided---i7pr the Bill 32 against it 28—inajority 4. _ _ The Report was ordered to be receiycd to-morrow. • A Message was receied from the Lords, stating, that their Lc :ciships had agreed to the Customs Fees gill, and certain Private dills.• • • VOLUN LEERS. Mit.nmni.asked whether it was the intention or the Right Uon. Secretary of State over tile way (Mr. Windham) to make 4ny'propositiou to the House this Session respe&ing the Volunteer Officers ? Mr. WINDHAM replied, tlytt it was his intention to move for leave to bring in a Bill to-morrow rela tive to Volunteer Officers. Sir HENRY IVILDMAY then - gave notice that he would on Friday next submit a Motion to the House on the subject of the Volunteers.. OUDE. Mr. PAULL presented the Supplementary Charge on the subject of Oude f and moved .that it should be printed. _ • .. - Sir Aft.rmurt WELLESLEY asked whether fit was the intention' of the Hqn. Gentleman to make any more AlMons relative to Marquis Wellesley this Session ? I-Te wished' to ascertain this 'as he had other duties to perform, and was desirous of getting away as soon as possible. He would not object to printing the Charge. Mr. PAULL stated that it had always been his intention to come to a decision on the Oude Charge' this Session, ifpossible : but he had been at the In dia HoUse, and found that Accounts of great im portance could not be made out in less than eight or ten days; he would therefore give no•pledge to pro 7. ceed this Session, but he would certainly be ready to proceed on the second or third da'y of next Ses sion. It was also his intention then to prefer a Charge relative to the transactions in the Carnatic, as this subject had been abandoned'by a Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Sheridan), whom he saw in his place. Mr. Ii" POLE said, • that it was very natural for Marquis Wellesley and his friends .to wish to . have the decision this Sessiori. But when they h4l proposed to come to a decision the other night, they were not acquainted with the circumstance. that. the , Hon. Gentleman wanted what he considered as ma terial evidence.n On inquiry at the India House, be was given to understand that. the Accounts could not be made up in lass than two months. It could not, therefore, be expealed that the House should decide on the. aide Charge -this Session. He ask-' ed whether the Hon. Gentleman had any more esti dence to move for respecting his Charge ? If he had, he hoped he would move fur it this. Sessiorkthat the House might be ready to decide at the beginning of the next. Mr. PAuf.t. stated, that he had only a few Papers to move for, which might be prepared in a few hours. Mr. SHERIDAN begged leave to trouble the House with a few words, consequence of his - having, been accused by, the Hon: Gentleman with having abandoned the subje& of the Carnatic, and hinted that This had been done_ since he had come into Administration. The fad was, and.he thought the - Hon. Gentleman might have known it very well, that .he had abandoned that subjeCt when Lord Powis was appointed, or understood to have been appointed, Lord Lieutenant of 'lreland. But lie had not abandoned his opinion respeCting these transactions, and when the Hon. Gentleman broUght the affair forward he should have his support. But his Charge was against Lord Powis, and not against Marquis Wellesley ; and he must say that it was somewhat singular that the Honourable Gentleman, who Must have known this at the beginning of the Session, had not come forward with this Charge when he had the materials prepared to his hands. After a few words from Mr. PAVIA, Sir AIITIIIJIt Wst.Lestry, and Dr. LAWRENCE, the Charge was ordered to be printed. _ _ _ . , Mr. W INDHAM a presented Petition from the Ve terinary College, praying for public aid.—Ordered to lie on the table. Lord CASTEEREAGH moved, by Address, for a Copy of the Third Report of the Commissioners of Naval Revision.—Agreed to. Lord HENRY PETTY brought up the Surveyor- General of Woods. and Forests Office Regulation Bill.—Read a first and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow: Mr. PAULL moved for an Account of the xpences of the 27th Light Dragoons in India from 1798. to 1801, and for Copies of Letters that passed between Colonel Scott, the Resident at Lucknow, and Mar quis Wellesley, relative to the excursions of .the Na bob Vizier to the Deccan .-0 rdered. SUPPLIES. In the Committee of Supply Lord HENRY PETTY moved, that 47151. I is. bid. should be granted to His Majesty, to make good the like sum , which had ,been issued pursuant to Addressei of the House, and not made good. He also moved that 2;400,0001. shoOld be granted to His Majesty to enable him to take such measures as the exigencies of affairs might require. In this, however, he stated, that one mil lion of arrears of Subsidies was to be consolidated. He likewise moved. that 600,0001. be granted for the exigencies of Ireland. These Resolutions were 'agreed to.—Report to-morrow. WAYS AND MEANS. In the Committee of Ways and Means, Lord HENRY. PETTY moved, that towards the Supplies granted to His Majesty the sum of a& millions should be issued from the Consolidated Fund, being the sur plus of that Fund up to the sth.April 1807. In order to shew the sufficiency of the Ways and Means tomeet the Supplies, his Lordship, for the convenience of the House and the public, entered upon a statement of the Supplies , and Way§ and Means of the year.. He first stated the 'particular Votes of Supply, under the heads of the Army, Navy, Ordnance, Arrears of Subsidies, Vote of Credit, Miscellaneous Services, &c. from which it . appeared that the sutu actually• voted as the joint charge of England and Ireland was 43,500,0001, The addition of the votes for the se parate charge of England raised the total supplies to 48,530,061. Os. 1 lid. Deduct from this two 17ths of 43,500,0001. being the Irish proportion of the Sup plies, • and 100,0001. being the Irish proportion of the Civil List, and the total Supplies _for England will he 43,252,0001. His Lordship then stated .the Ways and Means, under the, heads of the War Taxes, Loan, Malt, &c. which in all ainounted to the sum of 43,482,0001. Supplies - - - 43,252,0001. Surplus of Ways and Means - 230,0001. The Additional Pay to be granted the, Army, however, would' take up about .150,0001. of this sum, but there still .remained a considerable surplus. His Lordship then proceeded to state the produce of the War Taxes in different . quarters of 1805-6. The Resolution was then agreed to and the War Taxes, voted.,--Report to-morrow. LORD: RODNEY, Lord H. Party moved that the house stlould go into a Committee 'on the Message relative to Lord Rodney's Pension. In the ComMittee Lord H. PETTY adverted to the liberal provision which haft been made for Admiral Lord Rodney. Ov.iirg, to the premature death, however, of the late Lord Rodney, the Pensions had not been so long enjoyed as was in the con templation of Parliament. He therefore concluded by moving, " That leool. Irish currency, be an nually granted out of the Consolidated Fund of Great Britain to George, the present Lord Rodney, for life." - Lord FOLKSTONE Eaw no reason for this vote, and besides, it seemed to proceed on the prin6ple that when Pensions were granted for a certain number of lives, if these happened to be short ones, the Pen sions were to be renewed. Lord H. PETTY thought that under all the circum stances, in point of policy and liberality, there could be no objedion to this Motion. Lord CASTLEItEAGH concurred with the Noble Lord; after which the Motion was agreed to.—Re port to-morrow. - Lord H. PETTY gave notice of his intention to move in the Committee of Supply on Vvrednesday for Compensation to the Naval, Military, and Land Tax Commissioners. NABOB-OF ARCOT's DEBTS. Mr. HOEHOUSE moved the second reading of the Nabob of Arcot's Debts Bill. Mr. FRANC IS adverted to the importance of this subje&. He would take a view of some of the most material points, however, that he might not tire the patience of the House. The Claim amount ed to 9,200,0001: on the revenues of the Carnatic, a sum said to be' due froin the Nabob to individuals. Of this 3,658 j am1. had been already paid. From the amount of the Claim one would suppose that. the monied-men of 'Change-alley had gone to India to lend their money to the Native Princes. After thus stating the Amount, he adverted to the 'situation of the East India Company's Finances, which cer tainly were not in a flourishing state, and were lit tle prepared to meet such a demand as this. Here he adverted to the late Treaties concluded in India, which, though he was fond of peace, appeared to him to contain dangerous concessions under the cir cumstances. They were certainly concluded in a very private and precipitate manner, and be sus-. petted that Sir GI Barlow was forced to conclude them from want of money to carry on the War.—, He next adverted to the situations of many of those who made very considerable claims. He mentioned Lawrence Sullivan, a Chairman of the Court of Di retors, with several other persons holding high si. tuations on the Indian Establishment. This threw considerable suspicion on their Claims. He Said that the Nabob must have foreseen the loss of the territory, and therefore gaire as many orders upon its revenues as those who had any influence in out Indian Government might ask for. He contended that this was a ; public transaction, and that there fore instead of sandioring an agreement made bes tween the Pirt4tors and Creditors, Parliament ought to take the affitir into its own hands. The Hun. Gentleman was decidedly of opinion that the re venue of India was insufficient to defray the exe pences attending its Government—sand this would, he had no doubt, be in a very few days openly stated to the House. The deficiency therefore, augmented,by the consequences of this Bill, must be supplied from the Finances of this Country, and, of course, that should urge the House mor e' carefully' to inspect the Affairs of India. With a view to afford the opportunity for careful inspec tion upon this subjed, he proposed that the Bill should be read a third time this day three months. In the interval Gentlemen, and his Majesty's Mi nisters particularly, might inquire into all the cir cumstances of this case, and become better pre pared for. the discussion next.sessions. To this de-, lay no fair Creditor could object, for none such were likely to suffer from investigation only tend ing to separate their Claims from the mass of col lusive Creditors'and fraudulent' Claimants who now . came forward. Mr. &ILL' IVAN explained the manner in which the Nabob under consideration had become indebted to his kinsman, to whom the last Speaker thought proper so partitularly to allude, The Mr. Sullivan referred to, who was Chairman of the Indil Con?. pany, being in competition with Lard Clive for power in India, lent India stock to Coi. Maclean, in order to qualify the Colonel to vote at the India House, and in support of his interest. This Mae, lean afterwards went to India, and entered into the service of the Nabob of Arcot, in which service he died. At his death he remained in debt, for the amount of the India Stock, to Mr. Sullivan, through whose interposition with the Nabob, that Prince was induced, through respeet for the memory of a faithful servant, to give a bond for the debt, and that bond formed the claim which the heirS of Mr. Sullivan now advanced. Upon this transa6.tion, therefore, the Hon. Gentleman contended that there was. not the slightest ground to attach the imputa tion of fraud. Lord H. PETTY, although he concurred in al. most all the observations which the House had heard froth the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last but one, was still adverse to his conclusion. Upon the Hon. Gentleman's own admission there were several bona , fide claims, and surely to ascertain such, and sepa rate them from the fraudulent, was a very desirable ob)eEt, of course a fair ground for enquiry. As to the concluding proposition of the Hon. Gentleman, there hardly ever was an instance where fraudulent claims did not derive advantage from delay, while it must obviously serve to inconvenience, if not dis tress, those whose claims are just. ' He therefore • felt himself under the necessity of opposing the. Hon. Gentleman's proposition. His wish was, that the inquiry should go on as speedily as possible: . At the same time, however, that he expressed his readiness to support this Bill, he would beg it to be understood, that his support arose from an expecta tion that before it passed it would undergo consi derable alteration and amendment. In the Com mittee he should think it necessary to have some Clauses introduced, to, provide that no agreement should be deemed valid under thls Aat which was not so considered before ; also, that one or more ad ditional Parliamentary Commissioners should be ap pointed to assist the other Commissioners in the pro• posed inquiry ; and also, that the proceedings of the Commission should be annually reported to Parlia ment. These alterations the Noble Lord , was per suaded would conduce much to render the measure acceptable, and also to promote the ends of justice.