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OREATEST VEVUGNANCR t, rois measure, stud that even if it could now be castled, so far from producing .conciliation and ittnion„ _it' would iend, 011 the contrary, to disappoint ell the pro kpecis of advantage which under other CiTCUM fitaiices wool(' be derived front it t Leven those gentlemen who have argued the must strongly in favour of this measure have candidly confessed, that, in the present state of men's minds, it is nat. likely to be euried. • I stn Stlire't shall not be COD. traditted when I say, that ever since the union 'tins subject has in a very considerable degree at tracted -public attention, and that of late, ,net withstanding the other events which have occu• spied the public mind, it has been the subject of ' notch coniersation both in public and private, particularly since the Catholic Petition has been presented, and since the Hon. Gentleman has azivett notice of his present motion ; and I should disguise nay real sentiments if I. did not say that at present the prevailing sentiment is strongly against this measure what circumstances may occur to overcome that sentiment it is not for me to pre dict or conjecture. speaking of the probability of carrying this (fustian tit this time, I cannot but advert to what tell from the Hon. Gentleman, who opened the debate this day, respecting the decision which took place last night in another place. I know per fectly well that no man can mention the decision • of another branch of the Legislature, for the pur . pose of infinencing, much less of runt rolling the .decision of this House. I know there are many instances where differences of opinion have pre vailed between this and. the other House of Par liament, in which the sentiments of this House, in concurrence with the public opinion properly expressed, have ultimately prevailed. lam as far .as any man, Sir, from wishing not to hold high the ondotiltted privileges of this House ; but if I am right in my general view of this subject, I think the determination to which I am alluding :ought not•to be laid out of our consideration, be cause it goes to Ilse very essence of the measure itself, I mean as far as relates to the practical ad vautages. that are to be derived from it. Sup. , posing, then, that we were all agreed as to the vropriety of granting the prayer of this petition, •ss it .not our duty to comider what had effects „might be produced by the marked difference which ,would then subsist between this House and the other branch of the Legislature upon this sub ject ? If carried at all, it Ought, as I have al ready stated, to be carried with general concur rence; and tillet, an endeavour is made to carry a measure, the object of which is to conciliate one part of his Majesty's aubjects, care must be taken trot to shock the feelings of A MUCH LARGER CLASS Or THE Coststoutrv. Under such circum stances, when such an opinion has been given by another bra t tsch of the Legislature,' we are bound to take it into our consideration its deciding upon the line of conduct we ought to adopt, because this is a subject in which no man can act wisely or prudes:l'ly who acts entirely from his own views, or his "own feelings. It is his duty to his coun try, to the Catholics, and to the Cononunity, to look at it in a combined point of view, to cm,- slider all the . probable e ff ects, which the carrying fof it (if it•tiVere practicable) with such a strong aeatiment prevailing against it, or which the failing to carry it fluty produce. Upon this curt et the Subjoet there. is one point on which I wish to Say * few words. it has been urged by, some Gentlemen, that we ought to go into a Committee, whatever we may resolve to do at last ; and Some of the , minor grievances wider which the Catholics are said to labour hue been pointed out, upon which it is said there cue be no difference of opinion on the propriety of granting them relief —such as the tireemstaore of Catholics engaged in a nulltary life ectulog over to this country, and who are thereby exposed to the operation of the test act, to which they are not at home. Another circuits stance which has been mentioned is, that the Ca. Altolics in the army are not only not to be allowed -to have mass performed, but they are compelled to tltteutl protestant worship. Sir, I contend that these poitits are much too unimportant to induce tts to go into a Committee upon a petition which embraces the whole of this kuportant subject, and which excites the hopes and tears of all the sub jects' of the tioited gingdotn. I again repeat, that I do &meat that this subject has now been Itraught finward; 1 lament for the sake of the Catholics thetuselveS ; I lament for the general Interests of the cooutt y. that Gentlemen have thought proper to agitate this subject at this moment. That Gentlemen have a perfect 604 to exercise their imigatent upon this scilicet I do not deny ; I do not complain of their conduct ; I only lament that they 144%71'; felt it their duty to being it forward at this period, and under the present circumstances ; . when, if they were to succeed, the consequences would not be such as we all desire, and, if they fail, they may be such as we must all reeet._ And 04w, Sir, let the ask the Honourable Gen tleman, who has brought forward the present =- don, aad who &tidy avows that his object is Tare eieese Tlit,tO SHOULD BC CONCBOBD TO TIM CA. TitUt,ICS ; let 1110 ask the Honourable Gentleman* evicts supported the motion last night with such a eptendour of eloquence, what effect this is likely ast produce upon the Catholics themselves / When „the Hortourable Member, or the Hoourable ,Mover of the question, tal ks n of the effect of dis aPpuintitog hopes that have been raised; I trust they have oeer-vated and exaggerated it. But one of theveticatleaten did etate, that amongst the possible CidtlBo, ofareligious feeling having mixed atoll (operated is the leti rebellion, might be enu merated. the hope' held out by Lord Eitzwilliam, that the chtints of the Catholics would be taken into consideration, They alledge the disappoint. ment of. that hope as one of thst causes that might li4Ve tended to prtulace the rebellion., If that he tneir conviction, whavonost they think; who wish t n go into a Committec,,upon the petition, and yet are tit - opinion that they still reserve to them-s ativ‘a the freedom of rejecting it altogether, or of rejecting it in its most important parts 3 I submit this to the consideration of. the House shortly, bat digyinctiv • it rests upon grounds an obvious and so strong, that it will t.:e taking up your time '• Mr. (';ratan. Irvin them. t submit this with a wish that the measure tvlien brongirt forward will be carried with a general +concur rence. LSt,t the circ, ogistauces which LaVe iii thctto.retracted it imposSittlefor me to urge and pressity'snake it iitpossible for' me to urge and press it now ; feeling as 1 do, that to press it and to fail, or to press it and even curry it with such strong opposition, ate: alternatives, both of them so- mischievous, that it will be difficult to decide between them. Seeing, Sir, what ate the opi nions of the times, what is the situation 'of men's minds, and the sentiments of all descriptions and classes, of the other branch of the Legislature', and even the prevailing opinion of this. House, I feel that I should act contrary to a sense of my duty, and even inconsistently milk the original ground upon which I thought the measure ought to be brought forward, it I countenanced it touter the present circumstances,. or if I hesitated in brining my decided negative to the House going into a Committee. tITIITCCCISSI to agitate ~„ INDIA. MADRAS GAZETTE EXTRAORDINARY. MONDAY, JAN. 13, 1817. • On the 19th of December a hotly of predatory banditti, amounting to 6 or 7,000 horse, entered the district of Ganjam, and advancing rapidly on the town of Kammedy, set fire to it in several places, and committed great depredations there and in the surrounding country. EXTRACT OP A LETTER FROM MAJOR OLIVER, COMMANDING A DETACHMENT OF THE 6TH REG!. MEND OF NATIVE INFANTRY, DATED KAMMEDY, Dec. 21, 1816. " 1 have the honour to report, that about .five o'clock yesterday evening we were surprised by the Mahratta horse entering this town. flaying only Lieutenant Tulloell with me, I sent hint to take post at the other end of it,•and from both our di visions parties were sent out to the different streets to endeavour to keep them out of the town. We had a continual skirmishing for about two hours, and some men and horses were killed in the streets. A little after six o'clock, Lieutenant Tweedle, who had retreated upon my detach ment, arrived, having marched all night and that day, having been surrounded by them from eleven o'clock in the morning. I found it im possible to save the town, as they galloped through and set fire kt in several places. At 11 P. tit. Lieut. Jackson, who had been stationed with his company about 16 miles off, arrived, when con. sidcring myself strong enough to give them un alert, I left Lient: Tweedie with two companies in a strong position, and having procured two Peons from Mr. Spottiswoode, who promised to thew me the road to their camp, about a mile off, I put myself under their guidance, and am happy to say we succeeded beyond my expecte. thins. We were actually fu the middle of their camp before they discovered us, and we gave them two volleys from the companies within ten yards, which did great execution ; and it caused such confusion among them that they fled in every direction. We traversed their camp and killed (1 should imagine) from twenty to thirty of them ; they left. the greatet part of their baggage on the volt ml, and this morning there were about a • hundred horses running loose about • the town, and we have killed and token about 70 horses. • Lieuten a nt Tweedie, when he heard the firing,de. • "itched Lieutenant Ttilloch with a company to take post on the bank of Tank, for which they, appeared to he making; this was such it•t one*. peeled manoeuvre, that a party of them galloped - up close to Lieutenant Tulloch without discover—. ing hint, when he gave them a volley, awl killed sbme men and horses. TO THE ADJU'T'ANT, `2T) BATTALION 2D. REGIMENT. " have the 'honour to acquaint you, for the information of the Officer connnaoding the Regiment, that, after 1 left Berampore I received information of 1000 Pindaree horse having been seen in the "neighbonrhood of -Hatugur. Ise. cordingly marched in that direction, and came up with them about eleven o'cl oc k, encamped .in a plain a little to the westward of Boyeranny, and tucceeded beyond my most sanguine expectation in completely surprising them : they fled in the utmost, onfusion, leaving behind them 20 men, 50 horses, swords, spears, shields, and part of their heavy baggage, &c. I have the honour, ttc. (Signed) ' A. BORTH WICK, • Licut. commanding Detachment ed Itegt (True Copy.) (Signed) IV. ARM.i !TONG, Licut. and Adjutant 2d Bet. ed Regt. Boyerbonny, Dee. 28, 1816—Six A. M." EXTRACT OP A LETTER NOM LIEUT. BORTH WICK, 2n BATTALIoN 2n REGIMENT, DATED COLAR, .I ST JAN. 1817. '' 1 beg leave to acquaint you, for the informa tion of the Officer commanding, that I have just received information, that the body of Pindarees whom I forced to retreat on the 20th ult, took the Ballapilly road (which lies a little to the west of this) at Nowgaum, and joined the bOdy that passed this place the same evenillg, at a.place called Budinghy, seven coss north of this : so it is now all over, or-from what they have experienced, ,they know better than to allow Infantry to come up with them again. " It is supposed by the people who brought me the above information, that at the late at which they were travelling they must by this-tithe have crossed the Duspilly Gitaut, consequent 4, for me to tollow than up would ; be harassing ail the men to no purpose. However, 1 have sent in a Havildar and 12 men to hurry any stragglers who may have fallen on the rear out of the Compaoy's territory as fast at possible, but do not expect that they will come up with any.. received a letter last night from the Milikaar of Guillary, saying, that they passed that place on the 30th ultimo,• with the utmost expedition, leaving behind two wounded horses—and .another letter from Bel goonta informs me, that the Peollll of that . place have caught in the jungl e eight Pindaree horses, and that not a Pindaree was to be Steil alive on 3lst ult, to the southward of this.. " I have-the honour to he, Sir, " Your most obedient servant , - (ipsed) a A. 1301M1WICK, " Commanding Detachment 2d liattarvm, 4d Jtvgitaiiit." " P.S. Since the above letter was written, the Havildat'a party mentioned in it has returned tra m j THE SUN. SOLES! QUIS DICERS r, I,llly AtnyRAT) LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 3, 1817. MS BRITANNIC MAJESTY'S CONSULAR OFFICE, CORUNNA, MAY )4, Isl 7. The following is the translation of a Letter received at this Office, on the 13th inst. at night, from ANTONIO Tom4sovisit, master of the l3ritish schooner Fanny, of Gibultar. " Camarinar, May It, t 517. " SIR,—Qn the 9th inst. a schooner, with a red flag and a sabre painted thereon, entered this Harbour. After having examined her, the master said she was a privateer of Tunis that bad sailed fmth thence iii company of a corvette and a frigate, in search of Algerines, with whom they are at war, adding that these are in search of the Hamburgbers. The Authorities of this place de manded her papers, and they produced, h my pre sence, the Spanish Consul's pass, and a printed certificate. They desired water and beef, in order to sail immediately, which they have not effected, and it is now three days since that there were two large vessels in sight. 6' I Rin this moment informed by a person of strict veracity, that on Saturday, at j after G in the afternoon, he saw 2 ves.leis in flames about a iraglit and a half Of Cape Turinsia, oat pretty d k large, the other sman ; toe burning about an hour, the other bail tha tr I was upon the point of !ailin g , but base not so on accouut of t he suspicious spiterantlt these vessels, and have thought proper 10 e l " e Ott yon this information by express, acknowledge the receipt thereof by return 0(1141 11/11/IC. (Signed) " AICTO. TOMASOVISI4, -1 " Matter of the British schooner Fanny, of 0 1 0 1 1 "It, ALLEN. ES 4. H. D. M. Consul at Coruna*. eceiro " P.S. Accounts ha ve been since r the schooner carries 6 guns and 60 tnea." te , i , oral SVe received last night an d this m, Paris Papers of Friday and Saturday last, 1 Journal des Debars, after being sospernla : ; (fay, Was allowed to be published on Satunilik, has conic to hand this morning, but ot‘„ is allowed to be said in it, or In any doll nal, respecting the reason of the Suspentoth!. ' :0 following are extracts :-- " ere 1 , P A RIS, ArlY 31.—Preparations at the Hotel de la Iteyncere for ',the retell! the Duke of Wellingto n, who is 011)0 day. His Grace will , stan d sionsor t0!1d,,, of the English Ambassador, ant will alsell ; sent at the banquet to be given by _ ..i. :e on the 4th of June, in honour of dig bi rth the King of England. .. ,' 1 Further intelligence from Trieste stitt..: General Sp.vary has been pliced in arniliiittl,: a town in the interior of Styria. '' " Six fires have broken out sueeessiyeif . . a month in the Department of Holt 1144 ,:: ; one of them, in the *light of the 6tb initia ti 0, Ammertzecincr, three barns were rivstrle.4;iiij leePias ll/171 five mendicant children,'who were $ „ 1 of the barns, were burnt to death: il l " We learn from ?Marseilles Oa Pli . " ' The Chevalier de Lesseps, charged by bit si )„, jesty with a mission to the Weror of * to " to obtain the export from thence of° e t 4 tity of wheat to France , h as arrivedhe r l i A .. I va $ll O W having obtained, in the na me of I" ' could be desired,' of(till'ehleial,.disjilglipasnderiptleire'erniciende;sb;;;lill. I:llbielieli.ll'illeif 1 ~.. go t 010 , and soldiers in di ff erent parts of Fri.k ,... ' , I to 011 the dearness c)fprovisions,_baye,°„/.1;?,1 o'c'f' Civil - Ciiil Lisi an additional ry of 11 ` ; ' — ' 0 0444 each sub-officer and soldier who COO _..,..C. 1.1040057 i; ordinary pay provide the meat?s°' t A glOl5 l " According to recent advices 111113 ,„ bi g ' ~ r ISni i " ' O . and different parts of Italy'S e ' " 9 06 ' OW ill ip .:' have been obliged to return with I . l a d dotter: N 1. Eli consequence of the new that they are equivalent to if * s merehbndixe. W 6 . 11. 35c. Fire ‘ pet; Centt.---Thursd4, o t 6 i:n i t o . h pie ß l ,. ll that A , ' l‘ ss , nr AY e v e l n 8 ' t -- b l a l d re 0 1 e c : :: rter ' I° : et i.e° ' ll e 51 I'L°l-Igic:l ef NT Hit l''' "1! ssean Legation, svbieb to b brig At 1 u enc' s ' cotal Prwlitetive of serious c onseq of ' I augYlingsorn some out,t n t a ° h: j e d t a tinti:orictguceattsntitstre:lgittlrre::::: ilri:::.,' of 1 1,- b ore! were • people a the Embassy, .'th wh°l" th / , f the v , 'tfohbeloßwa Baron nTduleoSittrZoi :I t o ) Ifj)' e°norPinics;l:isit:::::i°2- ::(:°0 c a „ The mandant of the Bostangis.. The P ic g ., t he • • not discover the offenders, but offeteJet" ro i nister to strangle immediately, in the 'l at. • )1 . the Bostangis whom he would poi' lt ', t' f id was with much difficulty that this act ° justice Was prevented. t i . .., ~,, lull r MAY 2 1 .—His-Imperial i‘lale"' iitioce the Regiment of Lindenau, not .' tbe Parma, as reported, bin to his sowie.li%/'' ' Prince Royal of the Brazils. ber r g r lA s l t A at ll e ll , rtjltlit; itlitlievop2p2o.--siti;t:Lttblectricinserful'eAtiecr,,Se.%,:eiltr,i'le'lc: Ives by P vouring to strengthen themse tio , sly N some other branches 'of the noire' tar .1 s od, 1 . dition tes Prince Paul) to join them' , sup„pcosoerdettihretx:tsat:eis would be &WI/e a ' f MAY 1 7 .--111° P a u : of k, vonsbire is arrived ,here lit- the h° Forster." , --.....5aw0' Cent. Ce° ol 1 f Tar. FUNDS. —The 3 per lot - this day. Much busioesi ho pli , at price remains steady : they ape Pe - 4 ' Pe Money, and 73ii for the Account' t fr , bceeennt s e . 0 ne whichat will shot on Tlittoti'l ne% ' r 4 We ba v e g i (); vs;9' t he h i its P a o rice: eth tel; ip:Antr::l'.::°46:::,.,,s 0'1;1 some interesting extracts Iron - ins' ) tions Big' , zette, relative to the late opera , ~tt Pindsrees. . i lt i v' ---- 4 "" ---- The question that If oiiiii atghietiltdeloalletteliofill::Sitte:.!; house of Commons, to succeed Baron Cot.eself`crtt, 19 °lle , c b ' il t i , floto ., Daly t o oil- ,t t great importance, not cioity 0 the interest, the 1100011 r, and t" 641 Bowlful;1.1 (mot tonteiving it tie-cesa,ry to go far thc!), with inforniation that the Pintlarces, after 'passing this, marched 16 COGS witliont baiting, burning every village in their way. Tile barri caded Pass at giimlingity was litfit: art() ohstree tion to them, that was soon cleared away, ati:; they proceeded by Chtickabad and Bankoch on towards Boitdh. This information the Havildar brought to me, written by the head man at flood ingliy, and 1 have,every reason to believe it is car rect."--(Madras. Gazette Office, Jan. 20.) GERMAN PAPERS. LEiPsIC, MAY IC. [FROM THE LETTER OF A MERCHANT.] Oar. Fair lots turned out extreme ly ill ; it may - be reckoned inferior by one-third, if not a half, to the last Michaelmas Fair. It is said there were 14,000 strangers less, which one could easily perceive in the streets. The number of Russians, and Poles in particular, was small, and those who were there; made but few purchases. Ger many is so overstocked with goods, that it has far more than it needs, the consumption having been much reduced by war and distress, and the manufactures, by the employment of machinery instead of human labour, have greatly increased, and every thing is produced much more rapidly. This causes the trade in manutactured goods to stagnate extremely. Silk's, formerly a great article at our fair, were in small demand. English cotton manufactures extremely cheap ; they fell 5 'or 6 per cent. and scarcely a third part of the stock on hand was disposed of—the proprietors, of coarse, suffer a great loss by the part they have left on their hands. Saxoo cotton goods found hardly any sale. Our manutacturers are inconsolable, since by this failure of their last hope, the greatest dis tress will be occasioned, as they will be obliged to dismiss a number of workmen, who will lie ex-, posed to perish svith hunger. Woollen wares, particularly fine Netherland cloths and Saxon Me rinos, kerseymeres, &c. sold well ; and almost all the stocks were bought. The inferior cloths fetched very low prices. Wool from Bohemia, Moravia and Himgary, of interior qualities, was in abundance ; the prices have, however, fallen from 40 to 60 per cent. within these two months. Al most the whole was sold. As shearing time approaches, the Saxon may he expected to become cheaper than last year ; but it is not likely to fall above 10 or 15 per cent. Ordinary wool may be from 30 to 40 per cent, cheaper than last year. VIENNA, MAY 17.—The report spread in many German Papers, that the regiment. Lindenan has been given, since the death of its proprietor, to the Prince of Parma. Is to be added to the other numerous fables which have been circulated by public prints consuming this Prince and his august mother, who is expected here this summer. MAY 19.—We expect every day a courier from Leghorn, with the news that the Portuguese gym- I drop has arrived there. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Perforated Last Night. DIWRY-LANE.—The Clandestine Marrizige : Lord °ski)) , Mr. W. S. Chatterley ; Mrs. Heidelberg, Miss Kelly. At tci which, Thu Sultan, end Hlla Rosenberg. COVENT•GeADEN...."King Henry the Eighth : Cat'cllnei *Wel sey, Mr. Kenible j Katherine, Mrs. Weston. After whit, The Libertine. SUPPLEMENTARY tomay WILL' BE DRAWN TO MORROW —KING'S BIRTH DAY;---TH ERE ARE TWENTY CAPITALS—INCLUDING TWO 0F,C.15,600. MAILS. ARRIVED-1 rrance, I Hanthurgh, 1 Guernsey and Jersey, 1 Dublin, l Waterford. DuE-1 Holland, i Gettenburgb, I Dublin, I IVaterford. • PRICE OF STOCKS THT LAY AT rwr.t.vz o'cLocc Dank Stock, Q 56 I Bank L. Ann.....189-ICtlis i 3 per Cent. lied 704 I Indi4 5t0ck,........214 213 i 3 per Cent. Cow . . 731 India 80nd5,.....31 * . sig . p r . 4 per Cents. 3 per Ct. N. Ann....104i 11J6 Coos. fur July, ... viii i! lIR f WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW. Morning, 34 minutes after 3.' Evening, G minutes after C