The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1839-10-29 00:00:00

•N\ ,~..~. *n trial Ilaritatnent. HOUSE OF LORDS—TIMRSDAY. This day, at two o'clock, the parliament assembled, agree ably to the time named at the last prorogation. It was, of course, as is already known, merely a formal assembling of both houses to hear the prorogation by royal authority, agree ably to the proclamation that appeared in Tuesday's Gazette. The lords commissioners entered the house exactly at two o'clock. They were the lord chancellor, the Marquis of Normanby, and the Lord Falkland. They were robed in their scarlet robes, &c. and took their seats. according to the usual custom in such case, between the throne and the wool sack. There were at this time many persons collected below the bar, independently of the several officers (and their friends) connected with the houses of parliament, to view the forms markinz a prorogation of parliamont. Among them were Mr. Wakley and his lady. The lords commissioners having taken their seats, The LORD CHANCELLOR directed the usher of the black rod to inform the House of Commons that the lords commis sioners named by her Majesty requested the immediate at tendance of the members of the House of Commons in the House of Lords, to hear read her Majesty's commission. The duty of summoning the commons was performed by the yeoman usher of the black rod, G. Pulman, Esq. J. Rickman, Esq, one of the clerks at the table of the lower house, attended for the House of Commons, accom panied by many of the officers and clerks of the House. Mr. `Wakley being the only member of the House of Commons present. At the conclusion of the reading of the commission, The LORD CHANCELLOR said—By virtue of her Majesty's commission under the great seal issued, to us and other lords directed, and which has just been read ; ani we hereby do, in her Majesty's name, and in obedience to her Majesty's commands, prorogue this present parliament to Thursday, the 12th of December next, to be then here holden, and this parliament is now accordingly prorogued to Thursday, the 12th day of December next. The commons thereupon retired, and the lords commission ers immediately afterwards withdrew, the parliament of course now standing further prorogued till the 12th December, the nearness of which period to Christmas showing that, as re gard the ministers, they have no idea of meeting for the • despatch" of business, as it is somewhat facetiously termed, previously to the now usual time, the latter end of January, or the commencement of February. THE DEATH OF THE DUKE OF ARGYLL. Intelligence was received in town on Thursday morning of the death of the Duke of Argyll, at Inverary Castle, Argyll shire, on Tuesday last, the 22d instant. However, both at the town residence of his grace, and by the members of his family, not the slightest communication has been received from Inverary Castle to confirm the sad news, although we have every reason to believe it authentic, from having seen a letter, posted from Inverary, stating that the noble duke died on Tuesday. A letter franked by his grace on Monday was delivered yesterday morning. The late duke, Duke and Earl of Argyll, Marquis of Lorn and Kintyre, Earl of Campbell and Corval, Viscount of Lochan and Glenillon, Baron Campbell of Lorn, &c., in the peerage of Scotland ; and Baron Sundridge and Hamilton, in the peerage of the united kingdom, was born the 22d of September, 1768, and succeeded his father, the fifth duke, the 14th of May, 1806. In 1810 his grace married the Lady Caroline Elizabeth Villiers, sister of the Earl of Jersey, and mother of the Earl of Uxbridge, Duchess of Richmond, Marchioness of Conyngham, Lady Templemore, and Lady Agnes Byng, the previous marriage of her ladyship with the Marquis of Anglesey being dissolved in 1810. In June, 1835, the duchess died, leaving no issue by her second marriage. The late duke was uncle of the Countess of Charleville and Mr. W. F. Campbell, M.P. His grace was lord stew ward of the Queen's household, having also filled that ap pointment during the latter part of the reign of the King William IV., keeper of the great seal of Scotland, hereditary master of the Queen's household in Scotland, Lord Lieute nant and hereditary sheriff of Argyllshire, Admiral of the Western Isles, one of the keepers of the crown and regalia of Scotland, a trustee of the British Museum, and a G.C.B. His grace is succeeded in his titles and estates by his brother, Lord John Douglas Campbell (now Duke of Argyll) born in 1777, and married three times—first, in 1802, to Elizabeth, daughter of Mr. William Campbell ; secondly, in 1820, Joan, heiress of Mr. John Glassett ; and, thirdly, in 1831, Anne, daughter of Mr. J. Cunningham ; by all of whom his lordship had issue. The Marquis of Lorn, the eldest son, is in his 19th year.—Morning Herald. LEEDS CHESS CLUB. This club commenced its session of 1839-40, on Monday last, by dining together at Scarborough's hotel. Mr. Muff, the president, ably discharged the duties of the chair ; Mr. Robert Cadman, the treasurer was in the vice chair ; and there was a good muster of members. Mr. Scarborough placed upon the table a good dinner, to which ample justice was done. The cloth withdrawn, the chairman gave " Our Maiden Queen Victoria," and the " Queen Dowager," in succession, and the lovers of chess, by manifestations not to be mistaken, showed their respect and attachment for Queens. The president then, in a very neat speech, introduced what may be considered the professional business of the night. He lamented that good chess players were not more numerous in Leeds, or more gregarious, inasmuch as the noble science united in one a high intellectual exercise and a rational re creation. The president then congratulated the members of the club on the speedy and successful termination of the match at present pending with the Liverpool club, so far, at least, as respects one of the games, and that alone would de termine the match in favour of Leeds.* With reference to the game spoken of, he might say that it had about it nothing of the cool, calculating, and cautious play which almost uni formly characterised contests carried on by correspondence. In that game there would be found not only some most inter esting positions, but many of the moves were of that brilli ant kind which would secure the approbation of the severest critic, and would place that game in the first class of those which had been carried on by written communication. (Cheers.) Of the second game, which had considerably ad vanced, it did not become him to speak with particularity, because the result was yet in doubt; but he thought he might be allowed to say, that the Leeds club was in a position which meant winning. (Loud cheers.) The president concluded by proposing. " Prosperity to the Leeds Chess club." The toast was drank with all the honours ; and Mr. Rhodes, the Secretary, responded to it in a speech which, like his skill in the Tame, was most admirable. He spoke of chess with an enthusiasm which none but a first-rate player can feel or appreciate. Chess, he said, expanded the mind, disciplined it at the same time, and suggested important moral lessons. It exemplified the advantages of vigourous action and com bined movement. It gave a just reward to foresight and skill, and showed that negligence and want of industry were the broad ways which led to discomfiture. It exhibited the value of courage tempered with discretion, and the sure re ward of perseverance. In short, says Mr. Rhodes, chess, properly understood and wisely practised is of great service to both body and mind, exercising the one, and fitting it for the loftiest duties of life, and recreating the other, when wea ried with labour, or blighted by disease. He then adverted to the match with the Liverpool club, and expressed the ut most confidence that the Leeds Club would win the second as well as the first game. Mr. Rhodes concluded his re marks by proposing " Mr. Perring, and thanks to him for his kindness and readiness in inserting communications re specting the game of chess in the Leeds Intelligencer." Mr. Perring, in acknowledgitig the honour of this toast, expressed an opinion that the lovers of chess were more numerous than was generally supposed, and that Leeds contained many good players whom circumstances prevented from joining the club, bat who, nevertheless, hailed with gratification all proper op portunities for practice. With regard to the little that he had done in the way of publicity, he had simply acted upon the sound newspaper maxim of printing that would give plea sure to a numerous and intelligent body of readers ; he should be glad at all times to record the doings of the club ; and he hoped that publication would bring a considerable accession to its ranks. He gave as a toast " The Committee who have the management of the match by correspondence now pend ing with Liverpool, Messrs. Muff, R. Cadman, Rhodes, Bos eovitz, R. Brown, J. Luccock, and may their efforts be crowned with success." Mr. Luccock returned thanks and said the merit of the victory likely to be achieved over the Liverpool club, was owing to no exertion on his part, but to the skill of Mr. Rhodes, Mr. Cadman, and Mr. Muff, and es pecially to the great attention paid to the game by Mr. Cadman. He proposed the " Treasurer, and thanks to him for promo ting the interests of the club." (Four times four.) Mr. Cad man said he was deeply sensible of the compliment paid him. He loved a sober game of chess, for he felt that, like deeper studies, it strengthened the mind, and left no bodily sting behind. He hoped the club would increase in number, and flourish for years and years to come. With respect to what bad been said of his contributions of skill and attention to the contest with the Liverpool club, he could take no greater credit to himself than that, as one of the committee appoint ed to conduct the game, he had endeavoured to do his duty ; awl he should at all times be happy to advance the honour and the interests of the club by personal effort or by purse. (Cheers.) As had been stated, one game with Liverpool was so decidedly won, that the Liverpool pl a y ers oug h t really to give it in ; and he entirely concurred in opinion with the President and Mr. Rhodes, that the second game was pretty nearly as good as won. Mr. Cadman concluded by giving " The health of the President" ; drank with en thusiastic cheers. Mr. Muff expressed his gratitude for the honour, and spoke with the animation of a good orator as well as a good handler of the " men." He gave as a senti ment—" May our present campaign be commenced with spirit, carried on with vigour, and end with glory." (Cheers.) Mr. Boscovitz concluded an excellent speech, with the sen timent—" A more general diffusion of taste for chess, and may every town in England have its Chess Club." Mr. Cross gave " The Ladies, and especially those who patro nise the game of games." (Cheers.) Mr. Pyatt proposed " The absent Members." Mr. Rhodes, with complimentary observations, gave " Mr. Mongredien, and the Lis erpool Club." Various other toasts, arising out of the proceedings of the evening, were proposed and responded to with much point and good humour, including " Success to the Zoolo- Pcal and Botanical Gardens" ; and Mr. Hick and Mr. ow ell enlivened the passing moment by several excellent songs. The company sat down at half-past five, and sepa rated soon after midnight, much gratified with the auspicious opening of the " campaign." The sessional meetings take place at Scarborough's Hotel on Monday and Thursday evenings, at seven o clock. This game has since been given up by the Liverpool Club. -En. —Leeds Intelligencer. STATE OF TRADE. LEEDS.—The demand for woollen goods still continues remarkably slack, the principal business being done for home consumption. During the last fortnight many of the manufacturers and dressers have discharged part of their hands, and there are more men now out of employ than there have been during the last eighteen months. The continental orders are remarkably limited. BDADFORD MARKET.—The demand for goods on Thurs day was again extremely dull, even the lookers-on (not to call them buyers) being extremely few. The accumulation of stock, however, cannot be said to be very extensive, as the prudence of the manufacturers restrains them from making largely in the present state of the wool market. The high price of the raw material has also the effect of checking the operations of the spinners, and consequently both combers and weavers are limited in their quantity of work. The prices of the middle and inferior qualities of long wool con tinue steady, and moderately firm, but the finer sorts are not so saleable. WA.KEFIZLD WOOL MARKET, OCT. 25.—Without being able to quote a decided advance in price, there has been more inquiry, and a greater extent of business done in all kinds of long wool ; and stocks, as last reported, continue exceedingly bare. Clothing and blanket wools are dull of sale, and stocks in the latter description are accumulating. BARNSLEY LINEN TRADE. —No new feature touching the linen trade of this place is visible during the past week. The trade is steady, with a moderate demand. YORK FORTNIGHT WOOL MARKET, OCT. 24. The transactions of these markets are now confined to warehoused wools, of which to-day we had a fair supply. We also had a fair attendance of buyers, but the trade ruled dull at the following quotations :—.Super Hogs, 16d per lb.; Half Hog and Ewe, 15d per lb.; Ewe, 13d to 134 d per lb.—Leeds In telligencer. A beautiful specimen of the little bittern, (Ardea Minuta) • 7 11 . Vs killed last month on the estate of H. Willoughby, Esq. Of Tirrlsall. This rare British bird is seldom seen i n t h e Urr ., ;1:4 v f -- , NIJ \\ \\\ EDINBURGH AND GLASGOW RAILWAY COMPANY. CASE OF ME. W. 5.....,- r RAWFURD, OF MILTON, V. THE EDINBURGH AND GLASGOW RAILWAY COMPANY. The following has been handed to us as a correct outline of the proceedings connected with this case : The railway tunnel, after leaving the Lunatic Asylum grounds, crossing below Dobbie's-loan, and passing through a piece of ground felled out by Mr. Crawfurd some time ago, at ss. Gd. per square yard, and now belonging to the Railway Company, where they have opened an eye or vent, enters upon Mr. Crawfurd's feuing land, in which the tunnel con tinues until it passes below the canal, where it again enters Mr. Crawfurd's high lands of Broomhill, until it issues into a deep open cut of railway, which is to intersect these lands on the north or farther side. Mr. Crawfurd's claims were therefore four in number :-Ist, For damage done to his feu ing lands, intersected by the tunnel on the south side of the coal, where, at the point of entering these lands, the tunnel is only 26 feet below the surface : 2d, Way leave for the tun nel through the high lands of Broomhill, on the north side of the canal : 3d, Price of the land to be occupied by the deep open cut on the north side of the Broomhill ; and, 4th, Damage to the lands adjoining the open cut by intersection and deterioration. For the whole of these claims the company some time ago offered the plump sum of £1460, which sum was refused, on which the parties went to trial. When three of Mr. Craw furds witnesses had proved the damage to the lands on the south side to be nearly the one-half of the value of these lands, the Railway Company judiciously offered to purchase these lands at their proved value—namely, 6s. per square yard ; which offer was accepted, the amount of the price be ing £202 14s. This disposed of No. 1. After some further procedure, it was agreed, in order to dispose of No. 2, that the jury should at once say what sum between £3O, offered by the company, and £lOO, asked by Mr. Crawfurd, should be allowed ; when they fixed £BO. The trial then proceeded to a conclusion upon the price of the land occupied by the open cut ; arid the damage to the adjoining land. The jury fixed for the former £685 19s. for the price, and £474 for the damage ; making together £1159 19s. Add for tunnel £BO. The sum offered by the company was £1460. This, however, included a small sum for da mage by the tunnel south of the canal, which was settled ex tra-judicially by the company purchasing that part of the grounds on the same terms they had offered two years ago. EDINBURGH AND GLASGOW RAILWAY CO. v. THE DI RECTORS OF THE LUNATIC ASYLUM. This interesting and important case has been going forward before Sheriff Alison and a special jury Tuesday and Wed nesday. It involved the damage done to the Lunatic Insti tution by the formation of the tunnel through the grounds, for the distance of 216 yards. The tunnel is at an average depth of 40 feet below the surface, in solid rock. On this account, as well as for the supposed damage which might be done to feuing, and for the interference with quarrying, the Asylum Directors, before the trial, claimed £44,000. This claim was reduced, however, at the trial, to the sum of £BOOO for damage to the revenue of the institution—£273 for the stone to be actually taken out of the tunnel-4:1900 for the damage done to the adjoining rock—and four shil lings per yard for 13 buiding steadings to be passed under by it. After detailed evidence on all these points, and able and eloquent addresses by Mr, Duncan M'Neil on behalf of the Asylum Directors, and Mr. Patrick Robertson on behalf of the Railway Company, the jury retired, and after remaining absent for about two hours, returned, and handed in a ver dict, awarding £273 sterling in full of the price of the rock, and £6OO sterling in full of damages. We are glad to find that the facility of communication afforded by means of the railway system is most manifestly showing itself in Scotland. In the parliamentary estimate of traffic on the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway. The directors cal culated, allowing for the usual increase, on only £35,570 passengers annually, between the towns of Ayr and Irvine, a distance of 104 miles. This portion of the line was opened on the sth of August last, and the following is the return made : Passengers between Ayr and Irvine, as per last return. From sth August to 12th October inclusive From 14th October to 19th October inclusive Total... Being only a period of ten weeks. N.B.—No trains on Sunday. .. 33,150 SWINDLING & CREDULITY EXTRAORDINARY The pension board of Chelsea Hospital have lately been made acquainted with a singularly ingenious fraud which has been practised under the following circumstances :—A man passing under the name of Beresford, but whose real name is John Conwa), a pensioner of the hospital, and who had served under his ;race the Duke of Wellington, at the battles of Vit toria and Waterloo, in the latter of which he lost one of his hands, has been the principal actor in this fraud, in co-opera tion with a person named Middleton, who is understood to be very respectably connected. The dupe in the present instance is a Mr. Langley, a retired tradesman, now staying in London, but formerly resident in Liverpool, where, by assiduity, and perseverance in his business for a number of years, he accumu lated a very comfortable independence. About four months ago, Mr. Langley, intending to make a tour of England for the benefit of the impaired health of his wife, was proceeding, ac companied by her, by the Holyhead mail to Chester, and fell in with Beresford, who was a fellow-passenger, but who was, until that time, an entire stranger. He possessed some con siderable conversational powers and beguiled the tediousness of the journey by relating his exploits in arms, "moving ac cidents by flood and field " incidental to a military life, and hinted that had he but a few hundred pounds, he could realise a fortune, as he and a comrade had secreted among some ruins in Vittoria, a treasure consisting of gold coin, Spanish dollars, and jewellery to the amount of upwards of £lO,OOO. His comrade was shot at the battle of Vittoria, and the secret was confined to his knowledge alone. Mr. Langley readily took the bait, and after many skilful misrepresentations on the part of Beresf md, it was ultimately agreed that the three, accompanied by Middleton, whom Beresford had introduced to his dupes as a person whose services were indispensibly necessary, from his knowledge of continental strategems, to secure the safe transit of the treasure, to this country, should forthwith proceed to Vittoria, Mr. Langley undertaking to advance the necessary expenses, and in the meantime feasting the cheats, in the most liberal manner. The projected tour of England was abandoned for that of a visit to the continent, and they proceeded direct to Falmouth, where they embarked for Lisbon, and arrived after a pleasant voyage. Here Beres ford played upon the timidity of Mr. Langley and his wife, by representing that the country was in such an unsettled state as to render their proceeding any further extremely dangerous, and it was finally agreed upon that Mr. and Mrs. Langley should return to Falmouth, while Beresford and his com panion prosecuted the attainment of the object of their jour ney ; the former having induced Mr. Langley to place in his hands the sum of £l5O to defray expenses. Beresford then purchased fire-arms, &c. and made every show of prepara tion for the journey ; and Mr. and Mrs. Langley retraced their way back to Falmouth, were Beresford promised to re join them on the earliest opportunity. This he did in about two months, and stated that they had been only partially suc cessful, as they had been obliged to use great caution to pre vent observation, but that the greater portion of the treasure had been lodged in the hands of a Spanish embassy, who pro mised to bring it over to England, and heat the time produced a receipt purporting to be from such party guaranteeing to deliver it in England on the payment of £3OO. Beresford displayed several gold rings and a splendid gold chain, which he asserted was part of the spoil, and after a time asked for an advance of £5O more, which was refused by Mr. Langley, who began to entertain suspicions that all was not right. Beresford, who had been entertained by Langley at his house, expressed himself indignant at his request not being complied with, and withdrew himself. Middleton shortly after exposed to Mr. Langley the manner in which he had been duped. He was induced to this communication in consequence of Beres ford cheating him of his share. He stated that after the de parture of Mr. and Mrs. Langley neither himself nor Beres ford proceeded any further, but lived in a princely state, and Beresford frequently drunk, in derision, the toast of " Lang ley and Vittoria." The rings, &c. had been bought by Beres for the sake of aiding the deception, and the chain he wore was an exchange for an elegant and valuable one presented to him by Mr. Langley. It turns out that this is the third similar trick Beresford has practised, and Mr. Langley esti ma es his own loss in this treasure seeking affair to be up wards of £5OO in four months.—Morning Herald. NEW SOUTH WALES. We have additional accounts from Sydney, which state that the letters from Bathurst represent the crops in that part of the country as presenting anything but an encourag ing appearance, the ground being parched up. An arrival overland from New South Wales to South Aus tralia had excited great attention. On crossing the Glenelg the country was found to decline to a flat sandy level from N. to S.S.W., as far as the eye could reach. For two days the party travelled over a country of a most singular descrip tion, it being a mass of swamps, divided by belts of the oak timber growing on a sandy soil, on which there was abundance of fine feed for cattle. Fresh water could be obtained by digging a few feet. Towards the coast was an extensive swamp at a distance of five or six miles from the shore, where abundance of water was found with plenty of feed, The party next came upon a large fresh water lake, about twelve miles in length and four in breadth, which was named Lake Hawden. On leaving the lake the swamps ceased for some time, and the party travelled for about ten miles through a dense forest, when they again came upon a swamp, where good water was found by digging. The weather having changed from extreme heat to cold, it was determined, though still at the distance of 100 miles from the most easterly point of Lake Alexandrina, to make an effort to reach it ; and on the fourth day the country entered was sand-hills, covered with low bush, and water was obtained by digging about three feet. The weather again became extremely hot, and part of the cattle were left behind in charge of three men. The party then proceeded, and descried in the distance a timber ridge and the native fires, evidently marking the proximity to the lake. At this time the party were forced to walk, the horses being scarcely able to crawl ; and one of the party was too ill to proceed. The party, therefore, halted, and a calf was killed, the blood of which was drunk by all but one man. In about two hours they proceeded, and finally reached the lake. The distance between Mr. Hentey's station and the lake was about 250 miles, and was performed in 19 days. The party then proceeded in a northerly direction over a sandy ridge, and at a distance of eight miles came upon a point of the main lake ; and the water, which had hitherto been brackish, was perfectly fresh. In a few hours more they found the entrance of the Murray to the lake. The river was ultimately crossed with some difficulty, and the herd passed through the dead scrub for about fourteen miles, where they were left. The number of cattle missing and left behind was 23. EXTENSION AND CHESTER AND CREWE RAILWAY.— We believe everything is now irrevocably arranged, and on a basis highly beneficial to all parties, and certainly most bene ficial to the interests of Chester. The Extension Company have arranged their difference with the Grand Ju nc ti on Com pany. The line from Manchester will run into the Grand Junction line at Crewe, and diverge from it at Chepstow to Rugby, where it will join the Birmingham and London. Manchester will thus enjoy a direct line to Birmingham, and also a direct line to London, avoiding Birmingham. Chester will enjoy a direct line to Manchester, via Crewe and the Extension, and a direct line to London, via Rugby, avoiding Birmingham, and shortening the distance and lessening the charge of carriage very considerably. The rate of passenger traffic will be 21d. per mile, and the facilities will be unim peachable, as it will he compulsory that the t wo compan i es shall have liberty to use each other's line, so that the passen gers will neither have to wait at the stations or points of junction, nor to change carriages. The arrangement is highly advantageous to our Birkenhead neighbours, therefore we apprehend their jealousy will now subside. It will bring an immense traffic on their line; and as the railway intercourse of the United Kingdom is hereafter to be conducted on the reciprocal principle of using each other's lines, (for unless that arrangement is acted on, it will be compelled by legisla tive enactment,) that company will have the advantage of running their passenger traffic on tne united line in their own carriages, and also of having their line used by the carriages of the united company. With respect to the efficient work ing of the Chester and Crewe line, in connection with the Grand Junction, and all the lines with which that line is in connection, we are in a condition to state, that the resolution of the Chester and Crewe proprietary has been fully adopted by the Grand Junction directory, so that on public grounds the Chester and Crewe proprietary and the citizens of Chester have every reason to be fully content. So far as cheap rail way communication with the most important districts of England is attainable, we could not be better circumstanced, nor enjoy greater facilities.—Chester Chronicle. ~. ,N\'‘ \‘i YOUNG MEN'S ESTABLISHED CHURCH SOCIETY. A public meeting was held on Friday evening last, in the Music-hall, Bold-street, for the purpose of establishing a new association for the support and defence of the National Church, under the name of the " Liverpool Young Men's Established Church Society." The room was crowded to excess ; at a moderate computation not less than 2,000 per:- sons were present. The auditory consisted principally of young men, although a number of females and individuals of mature age were also present. On the platform we ob served Cresswell Crresswell, Esq., M.P., the Rev. Hugh Nl`Neih., the Rev. Dr. Tattershall, the Rev. Dr. Byrth, the Rev. W. Falloon, the Rev. J. C. Richards, the Rev. F. Barker, the Rev. H. Carpenter, the Rev. P. Crawford, the Rev. H. S. Joseph, the Rev. J. C. Hamilton, the Rev. J. C. Mansfield, Messrs. J. Aspinall, T. T. Glazebrook, S. Holme; J. E. Gladstone, J. Laughton, &c. &c. On Mr. Cresswell, Mr. M`Neile, and Mr. Aspinall enter ing the room, they were, each saluted with most vehement cheering. Soon after their appearance the numbers endea vouring to obtain access to the room became so great, as to cause much inconvenience, and it soon became evident that many hundreds must be deprived of the pleasure of hearing the proceedings. The pressure continued notwithstanding that every available situation was occupied, and at a subse quent period it produced some interruption. Mr. SAMUEL HOLME then stepped forward and congra tulated the meeting on the appearance of their excellent re presentative (hear, hear.) in the enjoyment of health and spirits, and ready for the next parliamentary campaign. But previously to his employment there he (Mr. H.) was anxious he should have some employment here, and therefore he moved that Cresswell Cresswell, Esq. should take the chair. (Great cheering.) 1r . Middleton said he had much pleasure in seconding the motion. Mr. CRESSWF.LL then took the chair amid great applause. He said, as the first act, he proposed to open the business by prayer. The Rev. Mr. Falloon was prepared to offer up a prayer in behalf of the objects of the meeting. The Rev. Mr. Falloon offered up an appropriate and im pressiveprayer. . The lion. CHAIRMAN then rose and addressed the meet ing as follows :—lt is now my pleasing task to open to you the business—the very important business—upon which we are assembled this evening ; and if I desired any reward for having taken a journey for the purpose of attending this meeting beyond that which I desire from the consciousness of having discharged my duty towards you, I should have found it in the very ample, nay, in the cordial greeting with which you received me upon entering this room. (Hear.) But I trust where the interests of our national church are concerned I shall need no other reward for any diligence or attention I can give to the promotion of those interests than the consci ousness that I have lent my feeble efforts to their support, and to resist the attacks too frequently directed against it. Being aware beforehand that I was to have the honour at least of being proposed as your chairman this evening, 1 have considered what would be the proper line for me to take in the discharging of that duty. I have considered, and I doubt not that you will go along with me at the conclusion of this evening's business that I considered rightly, that my proper and sole duty will be to place before you as simply as I pos sibly can, the objects of that association which we are met to forin, and the means by which its members propose to attain those objects. No person who has attended at all to the course of events for the last few years, can have failed to ob serve, that attacks from various quarters, by various bodies, but all equal in the rancour of their hostility, have been directed against the established church of these realms. (Hear, hear.) The motives, no doubt, by which these assail ants have been actuated have been various. Some bai , e de sired to pull down the Protestant church, as by law esta blished, in the hope,-1 trust the vain hope,—of establishing their own as the dominant church in its room. (Hear.) Others, not aspiring to establish a church of their own as the national church, have contented themselves with seeking the destruction of one church for the sake of reducing all to the same dead level. Others, again, have desired to extin guish the light of the Christian church because their own deeds are evil. (Cheers.) Others, careless about religion, indifferent altogether as to the hopes which it holds out to us, and to the fears by which it would divert us from evil, having only political objects in view (hear, hear), also direct their efforts against the national church, being persuaded that it is one of the primest bulwarks of our constitution in the state (hear) ; and they desire, therefore, to pull down the one, in order that they may the more easily overturn the other. (Hear and cheers.) But whilst they have had these various objects in view, and whilst they have endeavoured to arrive at these different ends, all have been desirous of at taining those ends by the same means, namely, by the des truction of our national church. (Hear, hear.) And as the objects of these parties have been various, so we find that their means of attack have been various. (Hear.) Some have endeavoured to deprive the bishops of their seats in the House of Lords, hoping that if the church should be equally unrepresented in both houses of the legislature, she would fall a more easy prey before her enemies. (Hear, hear.) A vain hope, I trust, is that, gentlemen. (Cheers.) I trust they will fail in their efforts to deprive the heads of the church of their share in the legislation of the country. That, however, will form no part of your proceedings here ;—it ra ther belongs to my province, so long as you retain me as one of your representatives; and so long will I pledge myself to be found the strenuous, unflinching, and uncompromising opponent of any such scheme as that to which I have al luded, whenever it may be agitated. (Loud cheers.) Some have attempted to prove the inutility, the worse than inuti lity, of a national church, by impugning the doctrines of Christianity altogether. I will not attempt to make an ob. servation upon that ; for it is an attempt so far from any pro bability of success, that we need scarcely trouble ourselves about it. Surely no one in these days can attempt to prove the falsehood of Christianity, without drawing upon himself the contempt of mankind ! (Cheers.) Others, more insi dious, have attempted to establish a system of national edu cation, from which religious instruction was to be excluded, and to form no part of it ; and, gentlemen, it they arc indeed enemies of our church, no system could he better devised to attain their end, than that of educating the people in secular knowledge, and excluding altogether from their minds reli gious instruction. (Hear, hear.) Sonic, again, not ventur ing to proceed to that length,—l need not say that those who now govern the land are among the party—(hear, hear, and loud cheers)—who dare not propose to exclude altogether religion from the instruction to be given, have yet endeavour - ed, and persist in their endeavours, to establish a system and method, which is to deprive the clergy of the established church of all superintendence and controul. (Hear, hear.) Others, again, and they are the parties with whom we have principally to deal this evening, as it is they who have caused that Association which will be formed, I trust, by large num bers before we separate to-night, have endeavoured to invade the security of the church, to deprive it of its privileges, and ultimately to overthrow the establishment, by advocating, what they are pleased to call, " the voluntary system." (Hear, hear.) They have been wild and visionary enough to attempt to show that an establishment, supported and en dowed by the state, is useless (hear) ; that all religion ought to be taught by persons dependent for support upon the vo luntary contributions of those who require their assistance. I am informed, and sorry indeed I am to learn it, that for some time past in this town there has existed an association of young men who call themselves " The Young Men's Vo luntary Church Society," established for the purpose of pro pagating their absurd and pernicious doctrines ; and it is in consequence of the existence of that association and others, which have sprung up, that the young men in connexion with the Established Church have come forward in order to res cue the town from the stigma which would rest upon it if it could be supposed that a body should be enrolled for the pur pose of assailing the church and none could be found to stand forward to defend it. (Loud applause.) To their honour, a body of young men, not personally connected with the church otherwise than as members, and attached and devoted members of that church, have come forward and associated themselves together for the purpose of resisting the malig nant efforts of those who are assailing it, and by devoting their talents, time, and strenuous exertions, to endeavour to stay the operation of the poison which the other society to which I have alluded are seeking to infuse into the minds of the people of this town. (Cheers.) The business then upon which we are assembled is the formation of such a society —(cheers.)—and that which you are invited to do upon this occasion is to listen whilst the principles upon which that society is about to be founded, are declared ; and whilst the modes by which they purpose to attain their good end are explained, in order that you may, if you approve of them— and I cannot doubt that you will—adopt those principles, assist in carrying out those measures, and become yourselves members of that association. (Cheers.) It were an easy, and it were a pleasing task, to enlarge u p on th e b ene fi ts of the Established Church, a church essentially the church of the poor. (Cheers.) It would be easy to expose the absurd ities of those who advocate what they call " The Voluntary System," not remembering that they who have most need of spiritual instruction are least likely to ask for it—(cheers.) — but that is a task allotted to others. I should be invading the province of those who are to move and second the resolu tions to be proposed for your adoption this evening were I to enter upon those topics. And When I seee the names that are affixed to those resolutions as their proposers and second ers, I should deem it the highest possible presumption were I to endeavour to anticipate the topics they may urge or to take before hand any part in discussing those matters which they are so much more able to deal with efficiently and with benefit to you. (Hear, hear.) It remains only that I should now introduce the name of the proposer of the first resolu tion—a gentleman whose name need only be mentioned— whose person need only be presented—to call forth all mani festations you can give of personal regard and attachment— I mean the Reverend Hugh M`Neile ; (Immense cheering) —during which the hon. and learned chairmrn resumed his seat. The Rev. HUGH M`NEILE then stood forward, but owing to the circumstances already mentioned he could not for some moments be heard. Silence being obtained the rev. gentle man spoke as follows :—Mr. Chairman.—We have three watchwords here. They are no secrets, and, therefore, they are perfectly legal. They arc not whispered in a corner, but proclaimed from the platforms of public meetings, which are multiplying in the north, south, east, and west, so that our three watchwords are very rapidly becoming national. The first of them is Scriptural Education, in defence of which we have fought the good fight here in Liverpool. The se cond is Church .Extension—(cheers)—in support of which we are this evening assembled, and I rejoice to think, under the patronage of one of yourrepresentatives in the Commons House of Parliament. Now, sir, there is no occasion for me to mention our third watchword at this meeting. Everything is beautiful in its season. Some of my friends here, who know well what it is, are anxious to hear it, if it were only just in passing, to bid it welcome. But, sir, one cha racter of the steadfast, orderly, and determined Protestant ism of your constituents is that they know when and where to discern time and place, and to be guilty of no needless breach of Protestant unity. I confine myself, therefore, on the present occasion, to our second watchword, Church Extension. (Cheers.) Our desire is to discharge our res pective duties, in our respective places, towards contributing our proper measure of influence to induce the legislature of our country to extend in England and !retard, the efficiency of the United Church of England and Ireland, and to extend in Scotland the efficiency of the Church of Scotland. I am requested by my young friends, to whose zeal, talent, and character we are indebted for the present important move ment, to propose the following resolution : " That this meeting, convinced that an established church is in strict accordance with holy scripture, and that it is the duty of civil rulers, professing Christianity, to support and extend the same, do earnestly protest against the attacks now made upon the Church of England, by those who wish to see her severed from the state, and consider that her mem bers are imperatively called upon to unite for her defence." (Some interruption followed the reading of the resolution.) Now, Mr. Chairman, I perceive an unhappy incongruity existing at this time. The subject before us is not one for merely loud and popular declamation ; it is one of grave and serious argument. But I am sorry to observe that from the physical position of our frinds who have got in, and from the moral position of our friends who cannot get in, we are not at all likely to be heard in a grave and quiet argumentation. I must, however, attempt it, for the subje& demands it. (loud cheers.) It is our rmitured conviction, not hastily or unadvisedly adopted, but after patient and dispassionate con sideration of what has been ably and zealously written by our opponents, that it is the first and highest duty of every government to provide the means of religious instruction for the entire population over whom they are placed. Our reasons for maintaining these opinions are various. Those which, as being of the highest order, and possess the greatest weight with ourselves, are of such a character as to produce little ell'ect upon many of our opponents. They must not, however, on that acount be omitted ; because their consideration is valuable in strengthening and confirming our friends. We believe that civil rulers owe a peculiar duty, as rulers, to Almighty God, the Ruler over all. I said - rulers as rulers ; and sir it belongs to the very root of this question to classify duties. There are: duties which belong to men, as men. These are common to all, and equally binding upon every man, whatever may be his condition or relation in life. They apply to him, not because he is a father or a son, not because he is a master or a servant, a ruler or a subject, but simply, and absolutely. and universally because he is' a man : such are the duties of honesty,.and truth, and temperance. This is the first class of duties.; but it would be to outrage the simplest dictates of common sense, as well as the plainest declarations of holy Scripture, to assert that it includes all our duties. There is a second class of duties, which are not equally binding upon all men ; but to be distributed among men, some to one, some to another, according to their re lations in life and positions in society. This will be simplified by an instance. Take tne instance of a servant: he is equally with his master under the first class of duties, as a u an. It is his duty, as it is his master's duty, to be honest ; but he is not equally with his master under the second class of duties. It is not his duty, as it is his master's, to rule the household, to provide supplies, and to pay wages. Neither is it his master's duty, as it is his, to clean plate, or attend at table. Every station, then, as its peculiar duties, superadded to those general duties which belong to man as man. Now by every fair con sequence of legitimate argument, this applies to civil rulers. Their duty is not to be confined to the first class which belongs to them as men ; they have, in addition thereto, those peculiar and distinguishing duties which belong to them as rulers. In other words, they have personal and official duties, and they are responsible to Almighty God for the due discharge of both. (Applause.) Our next step is to inquire what particular duty it is, which, under God, belongs, to rulers, as such ; and the answer, undeniable by all who bow to the authority of holy Scripture, is that Government is in stituted of God "for the punishment of evil doers, and for the praise of those who do well." It is obvious, therefore, that in order to be good governors, men ought to know what is good, and what is evil. If they be uninformed upon this point; if they he mistaken ; if they be such as the pro phet describes, men who call evil good, and good evil, then they may, perhaps, make and execute laws which shall bring punishment upon the good, and praise on the evil doers. A right standard of good and evil is therefore an indispensable requisite in a good ruler. But where can such a standard be found ? This should be the first inquiry with every conscien tious statesman. No man can be duly qualified to give a rational opinion, or record a judicious vote, upon any mea sure, without having a regulating standard by which to judge and act. The will of Almighty God, the Creator and Pre server of all men, is the only infallible standard. If this be not made known-to men, they are left adrift without chart, or compass, or helm. Right and wrong, good and evil, are terms of varying opinion and convenient accommodation, rather than of fixed principle. Witness the infamously cruel, and debasiagly indecent practices, which are consecrated as right, and good, and religious in all heathen states! If the will of God be made known unto men, then every statesman is bound to consult it, for his standard of good and evil. There he will read, that " a man's life consisteth not of the abun dance of the things that he possesseth," and so he will learn that temporal prosperity is not the chief good. Nay, more, he will read, that a man who is rich in this world, and poor towards God, is a fool ; and so be will learn, that to consider this world chiefly, is evil and not good. This hears at once upon his duty as a ruler, because, as government is for the punishment of evil doers and the praise of them that do wall, he will find himself called upon to resist those who would confine his duty as a ruler to temporal concerns ; I say to re sist such as evil, and to encourage as good those who plead for the paramount importance of training and instruction for eternity. If rulers, in defiance of all this, will speak, act, legislate, and govern as if this present world (with its pros perities, possessions and enjoyments, and without any train ing and instruction for eternity,) were men's chief good ; they do all they can to pervert the right object of government, and to mislead the country as to the nature of what is right. Because it is undeniable that whatever the government of a country makes its chief aim, it teaches the people of the country to regard as their chief good. (Cheers.) Further still, the true and final obligation of a law consists in its con formity to the principles of essential justice—that is, to the will and law of God. The mere will of a man, or body of men; does not constitute a finally binding authority. No combination of men can make that right which God forbids, or that wrong which God commends. No legislature, for exam ple, on the face of the earth, by any majority of votes, or even by unanimity of decision, could make it right to bow down to an image, or wrong to search the Scriptures. (Cheers.) When rulers reject the law of God as their standard, they involve the abrogation of their own true and righteous authority. The only standard then left to them is the varying judgment of a majority of men. The foundations of the social edifice are then endangered, because, in a time of excitement, a ma jority of men may be induced to clamour in the name of jus tice for what is really unjuit; for what could be irresistibly shown to be unjust, if the law of God were the acknowledged standard, but against which, for want of such a standard, there is no force of argument, no ground of resistance. Without this high standard of reference, for the inherent and everlasting righteousness of the laws, legislation cannot re tain its strong hold upon the consciences of men. The statute book and the judicial bench are divested of all sacredness of respect and finality of controversy ; and their matured enactments and grave decisions are arraigned with as little scruple, and crivassed with as reckless a freedom, as the jejune speculations of any private individual theorist. (Hear, hear.) Thus there ceases to be real stability in the nation, because the rulers have ceased to refer their measures and principles of government to the law of God; and thus we, devoutly trace in practical operation the invincible and retri butive majesty of Him who says, " them that honour me will I honour, and they who despise me shall be lightlyesteemed." (Cheers.) Sir, I think myself happy in the opportunity of arguing this question before so distinguished a civilian as yourself, and I doubt not you will coincide in the legitimacy of the conclusion, when I say that it is upon these high prin ciples we rest our conviction that the duty, the first and paramount duty of our rulers, whether considered in the legis lature or the executive, is to provide the means of religious instruction in the revealed will of God, for the entire popula tion of the kingdom. But, sir, our cause is so good, that wo can afford to descend from the eminence of this abstract principle. and argue the question on tt e more popular ground of practical utility. Looking, then, practically at the bene fit, social and relative, of the nation, considered as a whole, we allege that the national church is productive of more benefit than any other, nay, than every other institution in the land. It contributes more to the peace and safety, the morality and happiness of the community, than the army, more than the navy, more than all the courts of law, more than the magistracy, more than the police. The officers of human justice restrain the outward enormities of those mem bers of the community who are not influenced. who cannot be reached by the church; but the church preserves the great bulk of the community from giving the magistracy any I trouble at all. If the church were extended as it ought to be by the government, and energetic as it ought to be in itself, there would be very little occasion for policemen. One true hearted clergyman, preaching the gospel of the grace of God, visiting the sick, and organising the schools, prevents more crimes than a hundred of the most active poiicernen in the kingdom. And not only so : the effects produced by such a clergyman are not confined (as those of the magistrate are at the best) to the prevention of crime; they extend to the production of morality, to the communication of hap piness, and to the sending forth into society a number, a con stantly increasing number, of unpaid peace-makers. (Loud applause.) 11, then, it be the acknowledged duty of the government, for the benefit of the nation, to maintain, at the public expense, an armed force—if it be their duty to maintain judges and c , urts of law—if it be their duty to maintain a numerous, organised, and wide-spreading system of police ; upon what principle shall it be denied, that it is equally, nay, more imperatively, their duty to maintain and extend a national scriptural church? (Cheers.) If it be said, that amongst those who are compelled to pay national tribute, there are some who are conscientiously opposed to a national church, and that, consequently, to force them to contribute to such a church, is to force their conscience, which is unjustifiable tyranny : we reply, that the scruples or objections of the subject, whether conscientious or other wise, ought not to interfere with the general duty of the go vernment. If they do, there can be no such thing as govern ment. (Hear.) If it be right to give up a national church, be cause some conscientiously object to an establishment, it is equally right to give up army and navy, because some con. seientiously object to war. It is no answer to this to say, that they who think an established church unlawful are many, while they who think war unlawful are few. The question is, whether it be right in government to support, by national funds, an institution which is beneficial to the nation, although some of the people conscientiously object to it ? and if it be wrong in a government so to do in one case, it is equally wrong, though it may not excite so much clamour, to do it in ano ther case. If it be wrong—if it be coercion of conscience —if it be shameful tyranny in the government to compel one thousand dissenters to pay taxes, a portion of which shall be devoted to the extension of the national church ; it is equally wrong—equally coercive of conscience—equally shameful ty ranny—and more disgraceful persecution, because committed against a weaker and more defenceless body, to compel one single helpless quaker to pay taxes, a portion of which shall be devoted to the support or enlargement, if need be, of the national army. (Hear, hear, and much cheering.) Or if we change our point of view, and instead of considering the duty of a professedly Christian legislature, we consider .the hardship of persecuted Christian individuals ; if we imagine dissenters in the position which they are fond of appropriat ing, a position of suffering for conscience sake; if we sup pose them the only true Christians in this land, surrounded by powerful and persecuting heathens ; if we suppose our sovereign no better, in this point of view, than a pagan Roman emperor—our clergy no better than the priests of Jupiter —our collectors of taxes no better than Caesar's pub licans—and our dissenting neighbours like the primitive church in all the simplicity and purity of inevitable vo luntaryism, what then ? Why then we remind those dis senters of the saying of the Lord Jesus, who not only commanded his first followers to render to God the things which are God's, but also to render to Csar, the things which are Caesar's. We remind them that tribute was Cwsar's, and that the Apostle said, render to all their dues, tribute to whom tribute is due. We remind, hem that a large portion of the tribute so paid was squandered on idolatrous worship ; but that the great apostle, instead 'of' encouraging resistance to the pagan-church rate on that account, and in dulging in piteous lamentations over violated consciences, did, with the most simple, unconstrained, and unostentatious submission to " the powers that be," command the primi tive Christians to pay the rate: Supposing then that all which the most hostile disputer has been able to say or fancy against the established church were perfectly true, still,• if dissenting ministers followed the example cf the apostles, they would say to their people, " tribute to whom tribute is due ;" pay the rate. (Vehement applause.) But dissenters often misrepresent, perhaps misunderstand, this payment, as if it were a demand upon them to support the Church, and they complain loudly against the injustice of being compelled to support a Church of which they conscientiously disap prove. Sir, we deny that any dissenter is compelled to sup port the Church. He is compelled to pay taxes, but this is a very different thing from supporting the church. True, the civil ruler, when he receives the taxes, appropriates a portion of them to the support of the Church, but this is his act, not the act of the man who pays the tax. This dis tinction will be made manifest to all, by considering for a mo ment whether the Apostle would have exhorted his Christiait brethren to support idol worship: on the contrary, an apostoli cal exhortation is, " keep yourself from idols." Butwe have seen that the Apostle did exhort his brethren to pay tribute to Caesar, although Caesar, when be got it, appropriated a portion of it to the support of idol worship. That was his act, not the act of the man who paid the tribute. It would be monstrous to say that every man who pays taxes to a Government is responsible for its every act. No ; the subject is responsible to God for the duty of paying the tribute, and the govern ment is responsible to God for the duty of appropriating that tribute. The government receiving taxes may, in one or more instances, make an erroneous, unjust, and unjustifiable appropriation ; but the conscience of the man who pays the taxes is in no way implicated. His pocket is assailed, in deed, but not his conscience. This is a most important dis tinction, not for the dissenter only, but for us all. We all pay taxes, but we in this room are in no wise implicated in conscience, in what appears to us the guilt, the anti- English, anti-Christian, suicidal guilt of our government in the support of Maynooth College ; neither is the dis senter implicated in conscience in what appears to him to be the guilt, the unjust and oppressive guilt, of the Government in maintaining the Established Church. (Applause.) In this argument I have been conceding to the dissenter, for ar gument sake, the hypothesis that the church is evil. I have been putting it on a par with Maynooth College. Am; even so, I have been proving, and proving scripturally, that it is the duty of the dissenters to pay the tribute. But how much is our argument strengthened by the fact that the Church is not evil, but good !—that instead of being mit upon a par with Maynooth College, she protests against the abominations taught there, as idolatry to be abhorred of all faithful Chris tians ! (Load cheers.) Sir, I have aidressed myself to one branch of this great question, to one clause in the resolution which I have the honour to move, namely, that it is the duty of civil rulers professing Christianity to support and extend the same. I have already trespassed too long on the time al. lotted for the meeting, and, will now leave the remaining clauses of the resolution in the hands of my rev. and dis tinguished friend who is to succeed him. I' cannot, however, sit down without expressing my conviction that no language can convey any adequate representation of the importance of this subject. The population of the country increases, and must and will increase by untold thousands ; the voluntary contributions of those who feel the value of Christian in struction increases, and we trust will increase more and more ; but still the tremendous exigences of the case remain, and the duty of a parental government remains, and the respon sibility of the nation to Almighty God who has graciously given us his Holy Word and his Holy Church remains, and I do heartily thank God, through Jesus Christ our Lord, and I do heartily congratulate you, my young friends, who are forming yourselves into a Church Society, and I congratulate von, sir, and your noble colleague in the representation of this borough, that Liverpool is standing foward, as becomes her national station, to press upon the attention of the coun try, the legislature, and the government, the high and holy and urgent duty of maintaining the rights, and extending the efficiency of the National Church. (The rev. gentleman sat down amidst the most animated applauk.) The Rev. Dr. BYRTH rose to'second the resolution, and was heartily cheered. He said if his rev. friend who had pre ceded him found a difficulty in being heard, and was there fore obliged to throw himself upon the indulgence of the meeting, what would .become of bun (Dr. Byrtb) if a more &an ordinary portion of that indulgence were not extended to him ? Yet be supposed he was before the meeting, in or der that they might hear him ; and be really believed if they could hear him, there were some things he had to say to which they would not be sorry at the close to have listened, (hear, hear, and continued interruption, from the noise of parties on the stairs endeavouring to obtain admisision.) A GENTLEMAN, whose name was not stated, said the room was so crowded, and so many parties were forcing their way in to the already over-crowded apartment, that he had appre hensions of serious danger. He suggested that the proceed. Ings should be adjourned. Another GENTLEMAN said if the noise would cease there need be no apprehension of danger. The CHAIRMAN was happy to think that there was not at this moment any pressure calculated to produce danger to those assembled in the room, but at the same time it was im possible to see the numbers whose great anxiety to witness the proceedings, had congregated them together without an ticipating that the pressure must soon become inconvenient, if not actually dangerous. At the same time it was extremely desirable that the resolutions which had been prepared—the resolutions which explained the objects which the members of the association had in view, and the means by which they expected ,to carry those objects into effect—should be made known, and be now adopted by those disposed to'become members of the association. (Hear, hear.) And although, together with those who were prepared to address the meet ing —rather, he should say with those who came prepared to listen—he should much regret being deprived of the benefit of those addresses which were about to be delivered ; still, rather than any inconvenience or any danger, or any sup posed inconvenience and danger should b felt by those in the assembly, he would willingly forego both the pleasure and the profit of those addresses. (Cries of " No, no.") What he should propose to their acquiescence was this, that they should forego those addresses at present, that they souldhear the resolutions read to the end that all might understand and adopt them, and that all who thought fit might join the asso ciation, and that another meeting be called at some more convenient time, and in a more convenient place, where they could have the benefit of all that good counsel which they would only postpone and not altogether relinquish. (Hear, hear.) Dr. Br ram believed it would be the wisest plan for the people quietly to depart, and a larger place would soon be found. (Hear, hear.) The CHAIRMAN then put the first resolution and it was carried unanimously. The declaration of the result was an nounced amidst loud cheers. The Rev. HENRY CARPENTER said he had been invited to move the next resolution, which was as follows:—" That an association be now formed, to be called the Liverpool Young Men's Established Church Society,' for delivering lectures and addresses in favour of the Church Establish ment, for disseminating information relatisie thereto, and adopting other measures for her defence and support ; and that the following be the declaration and rules of the Society" : The following copy of the " Rules of the Liverpool Young Men's Established Church Society" was handed to the Secretary, Mr. WRATH Am, who read them to the meeting : DECLARATION We, the Undersigned, Members of the Established Church of England and Ireland, feel ourselves constrained to protest in the most decided manner (both in word and deed) against the opinions now advocated by the enemies of our National Establishment—to wit, that the State, as such, has no con cern with religion, but should leave it wholly to what is called the voluntary principle. We feel surprised and grieved that any of the children of those who originally left the bosom of the Church, through matters of form, should so far forget the faith of their fathers as to coalesce with Infidels and Romanists in the opposition to our National Establishment—thus declaring, that having to' choose between the union of Church and State on the one hand, and absolute irreligion and gross superstition on the other, they decide in favour of Infidelity and Popery, and against all national religion. We consider the Established Church (under God's guidance) as the grand breakwater against Popery, the impregnable barrier to Infidelity, and essentially the poor man's best in heritance. We believe a Protestant State should not only recognise the Protestant Religion, but should also support it and extend its influence ; and as large numbers of our fellow countrymen are left without the means of grace (the ineficiency of the voluntary principle, being thus shown), we deem it the duty of Government to afford the required aid. We feel ourselves called upon to protest, in the most solemn manner, against the attempts now snaking to com promise the Protestant principles of our national schools, by departing from the exclusive use of the authorised version of the holy scriptures, and the exclusive controul of the minis ters of the Established Church. Deeming the word of God to be the only true standard of faith and duties, we resolve to contend earnestly against such glaring and dangerous inno vations. For the above purposes, we hereby form onrselves into a society, to be designated the " Liverpool Young Men's rstablished Church Society," and we adopt the following rules for our guidance : Rule I.—This society shall be composed of all members of the Established Church of England and Ireland, who shall sign the above declaration. 2—The society shall be under the controul of a Patron, two Vice-Patrons, President, twelve Vice-Presidents, Trea surer, two Auditors; two Secretaries, and a committee of fifteen members—the whole to be chosen annually at a gene ral meeting. 3—The committee shall meet once in every month, to receive and impart information relative to the objects of the society, and to transact the general business of the associa tion. All proceedings to commence with prayer. 4—A General Meeting of the society shall be held once a quarter, at which lectures and addresses Audit be delivered in furtherance of the, objects of the association. s—The clergy shall be invited respectfully to enrol their names as honorary members, and deliver lectures occasionally - at the quarterly and special meetings. 6—The members shall be invited to transmit to the com- mittee essays in defence of Church Establishment ; but such essays shall not be printed, without the sanction of a com mittee of clergy, whose decision shall be final. 7--Any gentleman contributing a donation of £.5, or pay ing an annual subscription of 20s, shall be considered as an honorary member of the association. Mr. WATHAM seconded the resolution, and it was carried without a single dissentient. Dr. BYRTH rose to move the next resolution, appointing the officers of the association. Mr. WATHAM, at the request of the rev. doctor, read the list as follows : PATRON, LORD SANDON, M.P. VICE PATRONS, C. CRESSWELL, Esq., M.P. I J. C. COLQUHOUN, Esq. M.P. PRESIDENT R. GLADSTONE, Esq. VICE PRESIDENTS, Sir J. Salisbury, Francis Shand, Esq., T. B. Horsfall, Esq., C. Bushell, Esq., Samuel Holme, Esq., J. Rigby, Esq., J. Heyworth, Esq., J. Howard, Esq., G. H. Lawrence, Esq., R. Griffith, Esq. A. Smith, Jun., D. Hodgson, Esq. AUDITORS, Mr. TgOS. ANDERSON Mr. J. MALLEY. TREASURER, Mr. W. W. MOORE. COMMITTEE. Mr. W. Rowett, .. Mr. L. Addison, Mr. A. J. Francis, W. G. Leete, --- H. J. Webster —J.Rounthwaite W. Tithrington,, J. E. Gladstone —W. Fairclough J. Mathews, 1 Groom, J. F. Lace, J. Crisp, I T. R. Goirett, 1 A. Brown, jun. Dr. BYRTII then said it had been suggested - to him that a condensed form of the address which he was about to deliver to that large assembly might be useful, and therefore he once more stood upon his feet. He would promise the meeting that he would be exceedingly brief. It was only because he felt that in the present, day it was a matter of duty and con science for every . man who was really a loyal and attached member of the Church of England to avow himself, that he exhibited what might appear to some a most unreasonable anxiety to express himself upon the present occasion. (Hear, hear.) He had a reason, too, peculiarly connected with his own position in the midst of this large community. If he stood before the meeting in the character of a witness, he should say there was not one to whom any resolution had been entrusted this evening whose hands ought to have had it before his own, for - this reason, that his liberality with regard to all parts - Of the Christian Church was so well known, that he was constantly suffering the inconvenience of having it interpreted into latitudinarianism. And he rejoiced to stand forth now to say-',' that whilst-he believed the Church of Eng land was not the only church, she was the best church, and therefore he loved her. (Cheers.) He had said there was a reason, upon the present occasion, why every individual who believed as he did; with regard to the Church of England, should avow - his feelings. The time had come when every one anxioitith defend her should stand forward. (Cheers.) Wae the Church in danger ? (Cries of " No, no.")— In - the -liberal and plain sense of the word, he emphatically re echoed back that cry. (Cheers.) The church was in no , danger. She was onli in circumstances in whi c h d anger was to be apprehended.. Hear, hear.). If there were multitudes banded - against her, i not only men of no religion were against her, and they were, and always had been, against her—(and he measured a man's want of religion by his professions of hostility to his own beloved church)—he said if not only men of no religion but of all kinds of religion were leagued against her, we were not to conceal from attention the additional fact that there were men of high intellect, of deep thought, of spiritual piety who questioned the propriety of the esta blishment of the Church of England. Therefore, if, for one moment, we might contemplate circumstances of danger from the multitude or character of its opponents, we might say the church was in danger. There had, indeed, a cry gone forth. The meeting remembered there was a similar one echoed through the Roman forum with regard to the city which the inhabitants of Rome meant to destroy—Delenda eat Carthago; and it was the cry of a vast multitude in this country as to the church " down with her, down with her even to the ground." (Hear, hear.) The cry uttered by the citizens of ancient Rome was prophetic : the metropolis of northern Africa did fall. But the cry " down with her," uttered by thousands in the present day,- if it were prophetic, was prophetic not of the destruction but of the renovation of the Church of Eng land. (Cheers.) Like the city of Jerusalem and Zion, with regard to which it was originally uttered, it should not be accoMplished, but only call forth the best affections of the church, - and invest her with a zeal and permanent glory. (Cbeers . .) He considered, and he would redeem his pledge of being brief, although he might detain them longer, that there was much wisdom in the formation of this Young Men's Society. He had often expressed in oth er pl aces an id ea which he was glad to expres here —namely, that the hope of the Church of England was in our young men ; (hear, hear,) and he had often said, what he was glad to find had not only been said but acted upon by others, namely, that our young men did not km w what was the ground upon which they rested as church nen. (Hear.) It was time they should. (Loud cheers.) The dissenters, whom he honoured—for be honoured every I ,an who conscientiously followed out what he believed to be :he dictates of the Hoiy Spirit—knew why they were dissent .rs or thought they did. We did not. Mul titudes of our young men wanted to be instructed in every kitd of learning % - hich this association was admirably calcu lated to afford. It did-appears to him that if we were to seek for some plan by which we could make the principle of ec clesiastical government, better known *among the educated classes, we shouhi not find more ethcient machinery to carry on the work, than that which this society would afford. (Hear, hear) The young men who constituted this society would allow him to give them a piece of advice. (Hear, hear.) It was, that they should consider that the establish ment of a church did not constitute it a church. (Hear, hear, no.) It was not the connection of the state that made' the Church of England what she - was. (Hear, hear.) The state, as had been admirably shown by his friend, who pre ceded him, was in duty bound to support the church. The most efficient, the most eloquent, and at the same time, the calmest opponents of church principles had said, if he were to be a churchman at all, he would be high church. Now, for the honour of being a high churchman he (Dr. B.) had no taste, and to any thing to which he had not a right he made no claim ; but he must say it, appeared to him utterly impossible to account for the fact that any man believing in Christianity, and believing it was the duty of our rulers to be Christians, should for a moment question the propriety of the state supporting some form of Christianity . He did not contend for that peculiar form—that was not his place here ; but it was like an axiom, a self-evident truth, that if a go vernment professed to be Christian, it ought to profess some form of Christianity. (Hear, hear.) Latitudinarian as he had been represented to be, there was not one upon that plat form who could stand forward more boldly, or speak more loudly, in defence of the episcopal Church of England ; and he said that government ought to support it because she was the very best. (Hear.) He should now deal with those who said that government ought to support no religion at all—a monstrosity and terror in legislation—downright treason against the holy dignity of Christian principle—and cowardice with regard to every thing that belonged to a true disciple of Christ! (Loud cheers.) Was there one element of influ ence, was there one principle of action, was there one power of making ourselves actually efficient among our fellow-crea tures, that they ought not; to bring into exercise, if they be lieved the Christian system to be the true system ? (Hear.) It had been said, and he was very sorry for it, by a very able and influential man among those whom he honoured, that a national establishment was a national sin. (Hear.) His flesh crept whilst he uttered the thought. That the establish ment might stand in such a relation to other parts of the Christian church, as not to be what we should wish, might be very conceivable. It might actually exist in such a state. But the abstract idea contended for, that to establish religion was to commit sin, only showed how far holy and good men might be led away in the fields of blasphemous error, without knowing they were breathing a poisonous atmosphere.— (Hear.) It had been said, when we asked for the proof, that it was a sin to establish Chritianity, that it was a sin to bring the name of the Redeemer of sinners before those who never would have heard of him unless we actually forced the knowledge upon them, " it is not necessary to produce a proof from scripture." (Hear, hear.) Now, if it were not proved there, he (Dr. B.) thought the proof was not to be found any where else. He had never found in any dissent ing book,—and he wished those who heard him to remember what he said,—one argument that did not recoil upon him who used it. Till it had been proved that he committed sire in propagating Christianity, he should continue to do so, and he would continue the subject of that government only which would propagate it, because, as he believed sin to be a re proach to a nation, so he believed that righteousness exalted a nation. '(Hear, hear.) He was afraid that he was trespass ing on the patience of the meeting. (Cries of " No, no," "Go on.") Well, he was about to say that the pressure which was forced on them by the argument very commonly used, was one which actually bore on those who employed it. It had been said, that if it was the duty of a government to establish and support Christianity, it was the duty of heathen rulers to establish and support heathenism. A specious so phiqn this ! Now, be it remembered, the very persons who used that argument admitted Christianity to be true, and therefore he had nothing to do with the case as regarded hea thenism. They admitted'Christianity to be true ; and when you said it was the duty of government to support that which they acknowledged to be a revelation from heaven, they turn ed round, and said, " it is the duty of government to support that which they believe, and we believe to be false." Not so, however. Those persons did not see that it was the duty oeheathen governments to discover the truth ; and in not endeavouring to ascertain it, they lay under an awful weight of responsibility to God. It might as well be said that a man who abused his natural powers in order to produce mis chief, was'not responsible. In fact, there was only a heavier weight lying on those governments, because they had not found out the truth and supported it. Indeed, there was no one way in which the case could be contemplated, except to support a mere argument, in which it was possible for him to make out that it was not the duty of government to sup port and to establish a system of real Christian truth. (Hear, hear.) He said, to support and establish it. We were con tending for very little. He confessed, when he thought upon the fact, that here, before that vast multitude, they were en deavouring to prove that it was the duty of a government to support and establish Christianity, his spirits seemed to fail within him, because he was considered to stand there pleading a bounden duty, for the due performance of which they would have to answer before the judgment seat of Christ. In his opinion, it was the duty of government to extend the cause of Christianity, and to support it ; to find a place of worship for every neighbourhood, a pastor for every district, a seat for every individual in the church, and to bring the truths of Christianity to the lowest individual in the commu nity. (Hear, hear.) But instead of taking up this large and proper view of the case, they were contending for their very safety. They were asking that the light might not be put out, instead of demanding that it should be sent forward by many a hand, and a lamp kindled in every place, till all the nations of the earth be actually illuminated by the brilliant rays of evangelical truth, shed forth from the altar and the sanctuary. (Loud cheers.) It was that for which young men ought to contend : that was the, noble object to place before tnem,—not merely the preservation of what they had, but its extension. (Hear, hear.) Let them look to that; let them extend the church as established among us, for that was the very best system. (Cheers.) He contended for that again. (Renewed applause.) He had no reason, from edu cetion or prejudice, to be a churchman ; every reason and bias went the other way. He was a member of the church because he believed.it to be the best form in which Christi an ty hal ever yet appeared before the world. (Approbation.) He could not say, as a holy man of old had said, with regard to the Church of England, that he had been conceived in her womb, and nursed in her lap ; but he could say, that he prayed he might die in her bosom. (Cheers.) Now, it ap peared to him from circumstances, and from circumstances only,—for it was a circumstantial case,—that the educated classes of the community had been left altogether ignorant of the basis of their churchmanship Protestant faith. It had been with them a prtjudioe only, though a holy one. They seemed to have acted as though it had not been worth their while to examine, because when they did examine, they found that there was solid ground for their feet to stand upon. (Hear, hear.) But when they were thus assailed and at tacked, let them place themselves in a position to defend their faith ; let them examine the matter throughout. (Hear.) Those present were before a man who had exa mined, and who declared to them his conscientious belief, not that the Church of England was perfect, but that she was the very best form c f Christianity, which the history of the Redeemer's system presented to their contemplation. Let them not be satisfied with preserving it, but if it were the best system, let them extend it. The command of the Redeemer was expressly to extend it. " Ye," he said, " are thesalt of the earth"—to preserve it from corruption ; ye are the light of the world—ye dissipate the moral darkness .of the earth, and are the means of diffusing the saving truths of the Gospel, through all the families of men. I say, continued the rev. gentleman, if these truths apply to any system, they must apply to the last system, and therefore to ours. But do not go away with the notion that it is my belief the Church of England is, the only church. No. I believe that Presbyte rians, Independents, Wesleyans, and others—(a hiss)—l pity the man that uttered that sound. (Cheers.) Our cause I should pity too if it required such reptile eloquence as that. (Renewed cheering.) Hiss if you please, but I have spoken the truth, and I will speak it again. I say, sir, that I honour Presbyterians, that I honour Independents, that I honour Wesleyans, and I will continue to honour them as long as they honour Christ. (Loud and continued cheering.) The Rev. Dr. TATTERSH ALL, in seconding the resolution, spoke nearly as follow s : I have more reasons' than one for promising that I will not detain you with any lengthened re marks. One, and a principal reason is, that having come late into the room I really am not precisely acquainted with the proceedings that have already taken place, or in what stage the proceedings of the meeting at this moment are. I am happy, however, in having the opportunity of coming forward upon an occasion such as this to express my cordial approba tion and approval of the objects for the promotion of which this meeting is called together. (Cheers.) I may say it would have been gratifying to my mind if such a thing could have been predicated as true, that there was no occasion for the formation of this or any other society in support of the church establishment. (Hear, hear.) But inasmuch as such a necessity exists, I rejoice from my soul, and I thank God from my heart, that He has put it into the hearts of so many young men in this town to desire to support that which we have heard described as the very best form, under which Christianity has ever been presented to the world. (Hear, hear.) I congratulate this meeting. and the honourable and learned chairman, upon his presence on an occasion like this —and I dare venture to express the feelings that that gentle man may be assured the confidence felt in him in this town, will not be diminished by the circumstance of his havin g pre • sided at this meetin g . (Loud cheers.) I shall make no re marks relating to the general subject before you, except one with reference to the remarks quoted by the preceding speaker as having been made by some gentleman, well known, I sup pose, who has stated that to establish Christianity by law, is in itself a sin. (Hear, hear.) We have been often in the habit of justifying our opinions by recurring to the Old Tes tament dispensation to prove that there was nothing wrong in an Established Church ; for, most surely, the Je.vish Church was to all intents and purposes the most perfect Es tablished Church that can possibly be conceived. (Hear, hear.) We are told, in reply, that this was under another dispensation—that we may not quote as authority that which was under one dispensation, as sufficient to justify that which is under another dispensation. Upon this subject I may be allowed to remark that if the establishment of religion by law be itself a sin, God would not have done it under any dis pensation at all. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Having this opinion respecting the lawfulness of Established Churches, that they cannot be affected by dispensations at all, I beg to say I conceive them to be lawful, inasmuch as they are the best guarantee for the preservation of true religion. (Hear, hear.) We ought to esteem it the highest privilege we have next to the Gospel,—that we live in a land where a church is established, which preaches the truth of God in its perfect and full integrity. (Hear.) It does not appear to me to be all essential to look upon the voluntary principle as a thing at which is, properly speaking, an antagonist princi, le against the Established Church. By no means. Certainly the vo luntary principle would be a poor substitute for the Esta blished Church •, hut the church being established, there is sufficient room for directing the voluntary principle, not only beyond the boundaries of the church, but within her limits. (Hear, hear.) And where may we look for an example of the beneficial operation of the voluntary system nnder the wings of the Established Church, than in the very town in which we reside? (Hear, hear,) How many of our own churches have been raised by the voluntary principle—the voluntary principle acting under the wings of, and in con nection with, the Established Church ! (Cheers.) Let us therefore beware of looking upon them as antagonist princi ples. (Hear, hear.) And I pray God with regard to the in stitution this night established, that all those concerned in it may conduct it under the guidance of his good spirit, a n d that the measures they employ may be blessed and sanctified to his honour. I have great pleasure in seconding the reso lution. (Loud cheers.) The CHAIRMAN put the question that the resolution be passed, and it was adopted unanimously. Mr. WHATHAM moved the following resolution :—" That the cordial thanks of the meeting be given to C. Cresswell, Esquire, for his kindness in presiding on the occasion." It was intended he said, that he should have taken some pert in the proceedings when the arrangements were first drawn up, but owing to the adverse circumstances in the early part of the evening, which had also deprived them of the speeches of many persons more able than himself, lie had been prevented. However, from a deep conviction that pro priety demanded some one to come forward who represented the wishes, opinions, and intentions of the young men who had formed this society, he deemed it his duty to accept the invitation to move the last resolution. This society had ema nated entirely from young men. (Hear.) It was intended to be exclusively conducted by young men; and he thought the meeting would not have passed over with perfect propri ety, if some of the members did not give an account of the motives which had influenced them and of the manner in which they intended to carry on the society. Sufficient had been said by those who had preceded him, upon behalf of the church, to which he believed every one in the room belonged. We all knew the utility of that church ; we all knew notwith standing the asseverations of her enemies, that that church was founded upon the sacred scriptures, (Hear,hear.) We all knew it was the duty of the government to extend and sup port the church—that it was the highest duty they hay. to N \ . -.. .~ ,l ~, • tbe 11 " perform both to God and to the people, and in God H i " Scripture we might see this principle recognisedbY t of the self through all ages. (Hear, hear.) In every par . _ tin e Bible, this principle was inculcated, that it was the D,ainafor duty of the government to provide relig ious instru c ',lo , the people—not only for the sake of the people t but because a national recognition of the presencehe reedis besrel l ' the affairs of men was due from every nat i on under goala (Cheers.) Were he inclined to argue the qu estion , l' e ,, es 1 advance, as one of his strongest positions, that it a " bounden duty of every nation upon earth to have ern4o cred it recognition of that God who lives on high, who int vem e° the affairs of every people, who controlled every mo ld go t whether of nations or individuals, so that not a flyea•riao upon the breeze, nor an earthquake shake the ear"Dribetr.) revolution occur but all was controlled b Him. The minutest as well as the most stupy en dous m a e ye " which took place in this world, were all under th e God, and could not take place without His F er ttioie l l (Hear, hear.) If this were true, he repeated , see n a - De . ; recognition of God ought to be made by all people. (A lO ,- It was therefore the duty of a government toward! nt oc ot , e , their duty towards their fellow men to endeavour Or, national religion for the people. He begged to lay : w ow single syllogism. What was the duty of goverment'a Ore the people ? Was it not to do all in their powe r In ittedt, ° , l the present and eternal welfare of the people c ein b e OP their charge ? Religious instruction was that ,W.T e peoPl e ' best promote the present and future welfare or .',.; 0 0 ergo it was the duty of government to provide rebb,,,e struction for the poople. (Hear, hear.) talented and the most argumentative volunlit:rydetoeudelariloe," this proposition. All their ingenious sophistrY could O' d overturn it ; they must acknowledge the truth 0 ' oelis l part of the proposition and of the second part , a n Oa"' here, then, a noble ground for justifying our c h u rcie, r ‘ iiet 0; He would not, however, rest her defence upon leered o< soning, for in every page of the Bible we saw Me n c oo '"' duty of the government to provide religious instru s priestts s the people. History recorded this ; prophets as wel l , a t had written this ; and in, the Scriptures we saw t" rs kings of Israel who received the most marked fav°';',„ltlle Be were those that did most for the glory of Ge u welfare of the people by providing religious it-L.:4'11;40. them, and that those kings upon whom the disPlectedlas the Almighty rested were the very kings who sli i ,oor word, who contemned his name, who disrigardecl,ll;apsorl. mends, and who did all they could to introduce LI, t o'ili f idolatry in the land. (Hear.) If this would aPP ) e arol t people and monarchy of Israel would it not apply ° Vie ° if people and our own monarchy too ? (Cheers.) God the same God " yesterday, to-day, and RI e f l i - e 0°, 1 ;1 he controlled and regulated according to his will ' ago ments of the kingdom of Israel three thousan d Yearg,,;liwed. he not control and regulate the movements of mi t . ° iv O P T ; dom now? (Hear, hear,) If he co ndescended Inc, tia° cise of his sovereign prerogative to look down frool°-na 5tW above and control the most minute as well as th e in , s ts pendous movements of the world three thousand Y'dttero did he not do the same now? Had the peoPlc •?,, S At , vernment responsibility then which they had no!., a t; (IT the world altered or had it lost its allegiance to u°, hear.) Here he was reminded of a saving frequent 4 o ward by their friends the conservatives and by v .i r ter , sr 'd, too : they told us that loyalty was a beautiful i that it was esteemed much by the constitution of ii. 40 1; Loyalty was esteemed by every true-hearte d If a man struck the monarch he was deemed w orthY s A le such an offence was regarded as high treason!' h at l e e t' hi ti• were disloyal to his God, if he forgot his alleg' 3 %ll.o who made him, if he laughed at the idea of a 'V e le o'Sf• dence, if he said " God may concern himself abobutiitt of individuals but he does not concern himself a tir e° ',O fairs of nations," did he not desire the disPl e4- ,, - mighty God, and would he not visit his displea sth.- 0 " . at for such by introducing evils for which we had been sup free ? England, he said, stood a monument o f th e e t ," e ili l t : well as the justifiability of the national church. is en's !rep the church had been reformed had not Englan d ' e ra c a ht ol and prosperous nation? Had she not gone on Oa, heiP' ss i gree of greatness to another, until she arrived at.' o , to d prosperity unparalled in history ? Was this owri,;teOresi peculiarity •in the climate ?' No. Peculiarity of ch izof e goal never guarantee greatness to a people. Was e at o a? some thousands of years ago, and what was she ° ol eo ° of the climate of Rome changed ? No ; it was the s it la p i when Rome was in her highest prosperity. IV3,s.flateeu,sre other peculiarity that greatness was to beg an ,", - / people ? No ; it could only be secured by th e , 4 ":4 of Him who reigned over the destinies of kingu° l- :alli , ''o.) pie that looked up to him, and who preserve L o ud rb e et abe; integrity and allegiance they owed to him k w- aisP t So much for the argument then which was now ha l 5 1 , s ie tween ourselves and the voluntaries. The lde, a ,, tt led e ,i4 him, on hearing the sentiments of the hon• and. ' c il e defog'man, that there were several inconsistencies m, ch °f hero of these voluntaries. They acknowledged the C en ae b""ail't land to contain within her vital religion, th at t - ao - die A i ' eminently useful, and that if she was severed,ai'etliOetsif, they would not remove one stone of her beau coan c a 9 they meant to object to the church, not because ' the il s ge' within her vital religion, but because she w as h is iv / r establishment, and if they felt bound to remove this tbe fie sr , ment upon the rights of private conscience , whY t h? ( P r urge the same principles in the case of Mairme tort 01, hear.) Was not the principle of the state Prtianou,se a religion which they did not •believe, as obj,, a n e ta lb e ee!; the national establishment. (Hear, hear.) "I"„ e por, a lll, e ' object to that ? Would they not see that to loge in which popery was taught was directly' c°, n e own principles ? (Hear, hear.) But they ne,, se d gle syllable against it ; and when they were as,b• e d l‘ a n , l ts' . ', petitions against the annual grant they reld' e no thi a d r ar,." are acting from party motives and we will hav„ c then . e vt with you." Then why not get up a petiton f (Loud cheers.) Had the meeting ever heard a o tl'ls o ,, petitioning against Alaynooth ? But had theY st t ee ; It ie, them being ready to assist the petitioning aga in in e r e o', to which we belonged ? (Hear, hear.) The s `? in n re o l ' i was involved in both; and if we saw them hosto w e e t be and complacent in the other, we must Pr es % 03 ' 4 5ill r 't some other motive more particularly when oeneetoi'iso good case in itself. (Hear, hear.) He wa s ' r a id° there must be some other motive for their °PPS are t church whilst they acknowledged she containcuinoe,, vital religion. Again, It was not very long al. ° ,,b a war with a certain party about a system w"'"iion very wrong_beeause it went to provide instru T e s ', o 0 0 10,1 religion. Did the voluntaries assist us here ? - f a ce 9 out e e, ( Because it was a system containing princiPle a r e e an al t 'd themselves, and because some of their friends v`," in it. (Hear, hear.) - Whenever it served thee' tne eis e tti had done all they could to oppose us L and son ts ', Coi,l;jely who were first and foremost in supporting tl':'tbe Schools were among the first and foremost °t oe ob ilit e 4l , Men's Voluntary Church Association,"to ° P this present society had been formed. -Was n ot g eo o ,eo ( ,l sistency ? (Hear, hear.) In one case a cer'l, e was president of the association formed t o of England, because, as he stated, public mot e s o' o 4 to support her • and the very same gentleman l e b de r, ) / es advocate of Corporation Schools , i 'v b „, i n be s the corporation schools to support them. Vl' ' Ol e ic," same principle was involved in the two : es te f oi,,e - ,• the same individual assisting and op posing `,:tc that there was some other motive besides sinceb'e fi e to account for the opposition. He would ne t a tif e 4e! o s table to say that the parties had any sinister „ 0 5 ' Poi He would allow to others the same right whelwoetinkt, himself—(hear, hear)—but whether they w e re ~,a s ,elc h fa. proper or a sinister motive he was justifiea 1 " a a,le is bl,'" they were influenced by prejudice and pass' a t n i i e honesty and integrity in their hostility. to ~,e a lle'try Church. He would, with all modesty, give t" e re P a d r i' and put to them this question, whether the n e ing true religion by opposing the church nce ja o they admitted contained within her the fer ia e sse a lli gion ? (Hear, hear.) Mr. Watham then plan v i v oi the resolution and sat down amidst great aPP t i o n• Mr. W. H. MOORE, seconded the r esole th e io under existing circumstances, I will not de t t e a on4, s e 4ll by making more than one observation. k ie cehr e fo,"k, our opponents may object, that your o'oo p oi t 1 yourself are not acting as you ought, in c ta ri 3a pr e 'te. l ll support of what they may term a merely se by tbe think it has been proved to demonstration o lis aP je oe, ) i i, speakers, that however, few may be the Perl t s tarry the objects of our society into effe et L, - I h c : ' o" r y' d ; be to benefit the whole community, bec,,,any , 0 1) 0 , 1 '04' 0 ( 0 i draw down the blessing of Almighty t r w ill e a : aig,r, cJe But suppose our opponents have not, th. pacity, but disinterestedness, to listen `3oee' D os ° 4l, which have been advanced, I should saY a forget that when our noble representati ve, t 3a w rd colleague, who occupies the chair, came ' cr t itat i °,o:le ri iief, tical arena, they manfully displayed the c° 3 ,?foog d pr ee` t' bearing the heart-stirring and heart-gr a d io " The union of church and state, and sc r 'r w aril - 0 1 17 0 1 ,Y1 (Loud cheers.) They manfully went fT r ee tion. e sl , i ,9 triple alliance of Popery, Socinamism aMi„%f and, God be thanked, it is It mere see' l ,S"„ a r.) fory is opposed to one venerable church. 1/4"-aotia'nle battle you know was fought. The const itu rest he .00'0' victorious, now I would say " shall sve, in g, the new laurels, without reaping and enj e) tbe ter t 0 fruits of our victory?" Shall we not u5e . .. 0 ,414 4e , .40,4 , power we have put into the hands of our 7, 0 st ir tives, in defence of the union of c hurch f lit . th7,0 0 .,, , ,`,, hear.) And if it should please God, to mr inn oieileirtfol an humble instrument in promoting his „ogle I believe that neither yourself, nor your ( . . n a regret the part you have taken in its formaieiv„ sevso I will not longer detain you, but conclud c a p e resolution, which has been so ably propos e tO • (Hear.) - s e, a 11 05 Mr. SAMUEL II OLME then presented a py it s. 0 0 ing, amidst deafening and long-continnuchaaleellt the motion for the vote of thanks to tlt era eo t d carried, as we need scarcely say, with Mr. CRESSWELL, in returning thantli a o th e De early part of the evening, when there of n al ri til particular reason why an early dissoliq; sb a tet if ii iii„l would be desirable, he considered tba, t ope r a I l fies4 passing on the privileges of others if 'l e , pers f a fie e"tliq which was strictly the province of tli,! iin ~n e oo chair, and attempted to take on hitnselr4,, cl ots , /I t !" those matters, which had now been so a b u,' o thVer a i l e sl affectingly presented to the audience jog Period of the evening, when all ba d been,ure, ban e s , , es• 4 intense heat, and , from a degree of Pre'' - ne se exceedingly inconvenient, it would brained tlie. t f t , ', it would be perfect cruelty, if he de,litand turning his hearty thanks for the con l , l o 'aeee"; t tilif i ell t , been paid to him. (Cheers.) RicblY, , rewarded for the poor miserable servla_easiv , chair, for he had enjoyed the greatest l'_oti _„ e -ble e" rv t o , treat, and received the greatest possi re cce e ve ,V assistance in pursuing that course as a se bee t i o o d ,o o ,6, he had hitherto attempted to pursue..r sire,o be , resting subject which had occupied thFi a tu e o was hereafter presented before the leg' ba d s animated by the recollection of what be lig et he could back any poor arguments be f. and ration of the feelings there exhibitecoy,,at'e P ti a°,o4 , I 1 - A should be able to'repeat, howev er . i le an ble (fr however poor, compared with that ' i n ree frog a it lec t e e s s,o them, some portion of the strong , fer nilt iie ll urged that night. (Loud cheers.) tot ,4 1 ' o f the honourable and learned gentleman/ 0 f ol? o o 1 1 , thanking you for this cordial receptle; in f 3l " ii a s eti f , you, for the feeling you have displaYe,',„e sha ll le t oir stitution which you love, and to whic"., ie etiegi'lie and praying you now to close this r e ity, e deefiC V l with a solemn invocation 0 0 the %jell b s he ° s ib' M`Niele, will point out the mode " ee tlog s i teli and I concur with him, that this in 0 0 1 (el 0 0 be oF e illi work. tha t be : t niche The Rev. Mr. AVNEILE said gre tl-L tarlae l :;be for language to express the sincereoo; or ° ee tr chairman for his concluding obser v3 ,d be l ig IP 0 e ''. 1 ,411, the act of praise recommended, w oui_ oen io, lo t wi t t o p highest benefit to all composing that e n de al i n t 1 114 shall bear in mind for what we con tci l leng..o o Pai o „Yir as children contending for the seatr ie fended the scaffolding for the sake o f . 1 - in Il i a e fi t,s # o,,, be recollected that the object in vie",' t be to ir ° } ,e tablished church was to bring by ° t ea' tot 'efivoe vation to high and low, rich and P°O.r.' fre ely ire; to 4 consisting in presenting Jesus £11r . i , _ , 4 fro!: fil e ner, and in weaning that sinner ner`ind love of God—that there he might, Pki ce l"e i 4 /;;,i such companionship with God as ' 0 e , ile dith„leifeboi f i o Holy Father, prepare him to meet , t be y o b• e st, 2; sent life, and to enter in peace int°, ls t be;'o',Y. the life to come. Therefore it r i f row efa ry e „P,p, that they should turn their attentieallise b ri ef cs sl i e, the jewel contained within, an d re coil° re iFe that rest in God where alone man tie l pril4e in the enjoyment of which, pray and b eo- L fr stinctive breathing of his soul, anbriot. Pug. and loye which are by Jesus jcl lh Brag kr'.° t'or rl !' l o fttum eSl vp , L to. Nic) ,_ t e e w i th bueit C o l 1 14` 4 1:t L.k3ll.l;lpi, be ai th ;ar,ieedie, Wit t of a ito n . 0 t; E ck ast SD v -,olie 'N e t e FIT Q t aii ) A(, l A PPear a It` P w k il 4 l / 8 C °ROI: B A. : S i ()WIN I. l . l te e k _to ti k t :4t eilt i e dd - 1. 1 . o e f e that i this t; w et f , ll lng 411 Tel Cr :hen ti Zee p a jr . an ge t7lor e ' nt ztig it N6„ . a nnut L 'ip`'' thtle 31EI .(.I„; ic at the ic‘ l tak t4 l 4 th e Ni Cs, 00, 1 Q