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I EVENING EDITION. COURT CIRCULAR. The Rev..ful‘n Young read the address from the Gene ral Body cf Dissenting Ministers of the Tnree Denomina tions, to which her Majesty returned a most gracious an swer. The following members of the deputation had then the honour of being presented ti the Queen. and kissed hands:—The Rev. G. Clayton, the Rev. J. Young, Rev. James M‘Whirter, Rev. G. Pritchard, Rev, John Ed wards, Rev. W. Williams, Rev. Dr. Murch, Rev. Samuel Tomkins, Rev. John Arundel, Mr. Jeule, Dr. Vaughan, and Rev. J. E. Richards. An address of congratulation on the late escape of her her Majesty and h's R :ynl Highness Prince Albert was afterwards presented to the Queen upon the Throne, by the body of Protestant Dissenting Ministers of the Presbyterian denomination in and about' the cities of London and Westminster. The address was read by the Rev. Robert Aspland, after which Dr. Rees, the Honorary Secretary of the body, introduced the Ministers severally to her Majesty. The deputation were very graciously received, and the whole of them bad the honour to kiss her Majesty's hand. Her Majesty gave audience to the Marquis of Normanby The Court was attended by Lady Barham, Lady in Waiting; the Lord President ; the Lord Privy Seal ; the Secretary of State for the Home Department; the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse, the Captain of the Hon. Carps of Gentlemen-at-Arms; the Vice-Chamberlain, the Captain of the Yeomen Guard, the Treasurer of the Household, tho Hon. Colonel Cavendish, the Clerk Marshal, Mr. Henry Robinson, Standard-bearer to the Hon. Corps of Gentlemen-at- Arms ; Lo:d Alfred Paget, Equerry in Waiting ; Mr. James B unce C ur li ng , Cl er k o f th e Ch eque t o the lion. Corps ef Gentlemen-at-arms ; Sir Benjamin Smith ; Masters Chichester and Bvng, Pages of Honour in Wait ing; Captain Courtenay Boyle, R. N., Groom of the Privy Chamber in Waiting. The Earl of Fingsli and Mr. Rich were the Lord and Groom in waiting. Her Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms, commanded by their Lieutenant the Hon. Sr Edward Butler, lined the Throne Room during the presentation of the addresses. An Address of congratulation was nfterwerds presented at Buckingleart Palace by the Body of Protestant Dis senting Mi n i sters o f t h e Presbyterian denomination, in and about the cities of London and Westminster, to his Royal Highness Prince Albert, which was also read by Mr. Aspland, and the Deputation were introduced to his Royal Highness by Dr. Rees. The Deputation then proceeded to Ingestrie House, where they presented an address of congratulation to her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, the address being read by Mr. Aspland, and the Deputation presented to her Royal Highness by Dr. Rees. His Royal Highness Prince Albert was attended by Lord Robert Grosvernor, Groom of the Stole ; Lord G. Lennox, Gentleman of the Bedchamber; and Sir E. Bowater, Equerry in Waiting. Her Rev el Highness the Duchess of Kent was attended by Lady 'Anne Maria Dawson, Lady in Waiting ; and Colonel Cowper. First Equerry and Comptroller of her Royal Highness's Household. The Duchess of Gloucester visited the Queen yesterday. Viscount Melbourne had an audience yesterday of her Majesty. His Royal Highness Prince Albert was pleased to honour Mr. W. C. Ross ss its another sitting yesterday, for the large-sized miniature pictu-e. The Princess Augusta, we regret to state, is seriously indisposed. Her Royal . Highness's physicians arc in attendance daily at Clarence House, St. James's, The Princess received visits yesterday from the Duchess of Gloucester, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and also the Duke of Sussex. Prince George of Cambridge left town on Monday to join his regiment at Guildford. A Deputation of the Metropolitan Beer-sellers' Associa tion, headed by Mr. Alderman Humphery, and including Mr. Bishop, had an interview with the Marquis of Nor naanby yesterday, at the Home-office. Mr. Mayers, agent for Barbadoes, and Mr. Thomas dodges, M. P., had interviews with Lard Jsbn Russell /esterday, at the Coionial-cace. The Earl of Fingal' end Mr. Mark Phillips bad in_ terviews with the Marquis of_Normanby yesterday, at the Home -office. The Judicial Committee of her Majesty's Privy Council tat yesterday in the Council Chamber. The Lords pre sent were—Lord Brougham, Mr. Justice Bosanquet, Mr. Justic e Erskine, and the Judge of the Admiralty Court; Mr. C. Greville was the Cleik of the Council in Waiting. Sir W. Follett, for the Appellant, and Mr. Barge, Queen's Counsel, for the Respondent, were heard in Cropper v. Crosby, from St. Vineents. Au application was afterwards made to the Court for an extension of the term of Quarrell's Patent, the Albion Lary, The Queen held a Court at Buckingham Palace, yes terday afternoon, for the reception of Addresses on th• Throne. The Yeomen of the Guard were on duty in the Marble Ball, commanded by Captain Seymour Sadler, the Exon in Waiting, and the Queen's Guard of the Foot Guards, attended with their band in front of the Palace. At two o'clock the General Body of Protestant Dis senting Ministers of the Three Denominations arrived at the Palace, to present an Address of Congratulation to her Majesty, on the preservation of the life of her Ma jesty and that of her Royal Consort. The following Clergymen were present Reverend J. B. Shen_ atone ; J. Pyc Smith, D. D.. F. R. S. ; G. Clayton; Edward Alexander Dunn, (of I3uckingham Chapel, Pim lico) ; Thomas Russell, A. M. ; Thomas Wood ; John /Edwards, (Clapham); George Pritchard; George Evans ; William Williams, Jcl:n A rundel, Henry Bourne Jeula, John Blackburn, Robert Vaughan, D. D., J. Edgcome Richards, R. Philip, William Stern Palmer, W. 11. Murch, D.D. (Stepney College), S. Tornkins, A.M., John 'ruder Rowland, Christopher Woollacott, Arthur Tidman, John Young, A.M., Charles Gilbert, William Spencer, C. .1. Hyatt, John Hunt, William Johnstone Hope, Joseph Belcher, Charles Stovel, Joseph Mason, Stephen Augustine Dubourg, Joseph Davis, E. Manner ing, Henry Beresford Martin, James M‘Whirter, James Castle/dm, Thomas Lewis, Charles Carpenter, S. Joshua Davis (Salt(r's Hall Chapel), Samuel Kidd ( Professor of Chinese Univeriity College), James Mirams, George Rogers, Thernis Aveling, William Bean, J. H. Hinton, M. A., J. May S.iule, Themes Ilennerley, Clement Dukes, A.M., Wiiliarn Groser, Thomas Simpson, 0. T. Dobbin, B. A., John Adey, William Smith, and Charles Fox 'Vaily, A.M. The gicen hiving been conducted to the Throne by the Lord Chamberlain, his R.iyal Highness Prince Albert standing by her side, and the Minister and Great Officers of State having taken their stations, the deputation were ushered by Sir William Martins, Gentleman Usher in baiting. to the presence of her Majesty, and advanced to the foot of the Throne. THE ARCHIMEDES. A NEW STAVE TO AN OLD TUNE-" THE ARETHUSA. " By our P. D.—( Glasgow Courier.) Corr e all ye lovers of science true, I'll tip you a stave 'bout something new, The propelling of Steamers by means of " THE SCREW," Invented by OLD ARCHIMEDES. We're new got a Ship, though strange it may seem, Without raddle.wheck—yet worked by stcam— Which Es through the water—though one cannot dream What it is drives this Archimedes. It was in June—on the sxteenth day-- A rakish craft in the Clyde there lay, Getting :team up to get under weigh ; 'Twas the ship called the Archimedes. At twelve, by the c'och, or thereabout, We fired 'ur guns, and the crowds gave a shout, And wished us good sdeed—so we turned screto about, And away sped the Archimedes. -Away she started in tirst-rate style, Taking very few minutes to screw each mile, While the people on hoard wondered all the while, What it was drove the Archimedes. For she screwed through the water slick as an eel, And anmsered, like magic, the man at the wheel; '►.pile all goes so sm)oth, quite at home you may feel In a ship like the Archimedes, The lockers with all sorts of good things were stored For the comfort of those who had come on board, And admired so this plan by which they were bored Through the water in the Archimedes. There was MR. SstrrH, who invented the plan, (Universally allowed a most glorious one), A kind, and obliging, and clever young man— So success to his Archimedes I And CAPTAIN CHAPPELL, too, of " Our Old Wooden Walls," An out-and-out sailor, who has seen many squalls, And Iroposes, in future, to quell all sea brawls By sbipa like the Archimedes. To the craft then a bumper !—though in all points of view She's a rakish looking jade—and here's to the crew ; And WO hope soon to see all our Steamers with a Screw— Like the one in the Archimedes. DEATHS IN PRISON, AND CHARGE OF IN HUMANITY AGAINST A POLICEMAN.—Tuesday afternoon an inquest was held in the Westminster Ilridewell, on the body of Francis Cherry, aged 35, a remanded prisoner. Deceased was received into prison on the 19th June, remanded to the 22d, on a charg e of having embezzled 71. From the time of his admis -8;on he was very ill and weak, and was placed in the prison in firmary, and was able to appear before the Magistrates on the 22 ( 1 , who remanded him again until the 26th. On that day he was not able to appear, and died of disease of the heart on Mon day morning. The Jury were about to return their verdict, when deceased's brother-in-law, Mr. Sexton, a licensed vic tmller of Stanmore, entered the room, and being sworn, said that deceased came to his house very ill and debilitated on the 12th June, in which state he continued until the evening of the L3!h, when a London policeman eame and apprehended him in bed, and though his state of health was pointed out to the c ,, tistable, the latter handcuffed him, and conveyed him in an Open cart. Verdict—" Natural death, accelerated by the mis conduct of the policeman in removing deceased whilst in a dangerou s state of health." A second toques: was held in the sam e prison on a women, named Coleman, sentenced to tsso months' imprisonment for vagrancy, but it being proved that she died of disease, and had received proper medical and other treatment whilst in prison, the verdict was " Natural death." SINGULAR OCCURRENCE.—On the forenoon of Friday last, the Uith instant, as Master George Tirarnam, son of Mr. Thurnam, of Carlisle, was passing with a friend through the village of Springfield,near G. etna Green, a swarm of bees alighte: on his head, and remained there for more than half an hour. As may naturally be supposed the youth was greatly alarmed, and, but for the timely exertions of the vil lagers, who told him to remain stationary and quiet, the event m 1 ht have proved fatal. After considerable suspense—mean while crawling over his face and neck—the hive was safely dis lodged by certain charms used on such occasions. Master T. was severely stung under the left eye, but we ale happy to state received no further injury. It will be recollected that some years ego a similar occurrence happened to the late Mr. Atkin ,on, of Kendal, but he, unfortunately, indurcd so much f,om the . sting of th e i nsects, that he d i ed in a few dais thereafter. ftCarliale Patriot. " THE SHRIEVALTY. The election for the Shrievalty, which is to termi nate this day, began to excite an interest towards the close of yesterday—business something like that which manifested itself on the day of. nomination. A rumour, indeed, has prevailed amongst the Corporation circles in this city for some days, that Mr. Farncombe, although a liveryman of London, had omitted to take up his freedom of the City, and therefore was not qualified to be elected Sheriff ; and it was generally supposed that the Court of Aldermen was held yesterday for the pur pose of curing the defect, by admitting that gentleman to his full right as a freeman. As will be observed in our account of the prceedings of the Court of Alder men, a part of their business was transacted with closed doors, and it is stated that during that interval an order was passed for the admission of Mr. Farncombe, and it is said that he was in the hall during the morn ing ready to be sworn ; but we subsequently inquired, and find that he was not admitted by the Chamberlain ; so that, in point of fact, that gentleman is not yet a freeman of the City. Lawyers are, we understand, divided in their opinions of the consequences which will ensue from this irregu larity. Some of them think it will be sufficient if the person elected is a freeman at the time of his return to the Court of Aldermen ; while others contend that it was indispensable for him to have had that qualification at the time of his nomination. A legal gentleman, upon whose judgment many of the Court of Aldermen [lace great reliance, gave it as his opinion that the ir eligibility of Mr. Farncombe would ovoid the election, and lender the holding of another Common Hall neces sary ; while other gentlemen of the long robe contend, that in the event of Mr. Farncombe being proved to be ineligible, the next on the poll must be returned ; and in that case, Alderman Gibbs and Mr. Galloway will be the Sheriffs for the year ensuing. Blame has been in some quarters thrown upon the Lord Mayor for putting an ineligible person in nomi nation. His Lordship, however, shifts the censure from his own shoulders to those of the gentlemen who recommended that Mr. Farncombe should be put in ❑omination, and who, his Lordship supposed, would not have recommended that gentleman without being con vinced that there could exist no objection upon the score of qualification. Mr. Galloway, it is fresh in the recollection of our readers, intimated to the Livery on the day of nomination that he would not sc•rve the office with the Alderman. The rumour in Guildhall is that the feelings of Alderman Gibbs and Mr. Galloway were in this respect reciprocal, and that should the worthy Alderman be returned with Mr. Galloway, the former will rather pay his fine than be unequally yoked, and compelled to make up the dual number with a gentleman to whom he is in political opinions diametrically opposed. A suggestion was, we understand, at one time made to get out of the dilemma by inducing the livery to vote for Alderman Magnay and Alderman Gibbs ; but it is stated that both of the Aldermen disapprove of such an arrangement, the former being anxious, for privatei reasons, to delay his nomination for a year, and the latter being supposed to entertain - a reluctance to serve as second sheriff to a gentleman so much his junior in point of years. Alderman Magnay is the senior Alder. man, and taken precedence in corporate rank of his brother Alderman Gibbs, although the latter has belonged for many years to the Corporation. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS FROM THE DAILY PAPERS OF YESTERDAY. ( From the Globe.) The Society of Jesuits were the great reformers of European education ; the most audacious speculators, the most fearless inquirers, the masters, in a word, and not the detractors, of mental culture. These are the weapons which a Church must use to regain spiritual domination ; and even these, as the example of the Jesuits shows, will not ultimately maintain a power hostile to the spirit of the age. It is, therefore, for the enlightened friends of the Church to con skier whether they can do that institution a worse service than to attempt to throw it back upon a basis which has become antiquated. It the Church cannot re main stationary is an age of advancement, it is for them to consider whether it shall fol:ow the prevailing direc tion, or start in a direction opposite to that of the public mind—and which of these courses offers the best chance of assisting to guide it. We hold those leading churchmen to have committed a capital error who league with their po liticians against the extension of education by the State. That was the fitting prelude to Church Extension in these times ; and the extension of church efficacy would not have failed to follow it ; that is to say, provided the Church is still possessed of internal energies. If it is so, as we believe, it must have proportional part in public education ; if it is not, it may be right in dis couraging State assistance to that object. But how little future can await a policy that is founded on such a con sciousness ! It is no less, as vbe believe, a blunder on the part of Churchmen to press forward with schemes of Church Extension by State assistance in these times. The Church must take at all times what the State can give ; and there are three churches, not to mention all other denominations, whose members are now no longer by connivance those of the Imperial Legislature. How Sir Robert Inglis, with his doughty determination never to pay a sixpence for teaching as the Word of God what he believed to be contrary to that Word, can expect so much more complaisance from other communions, he has perhaps never asked himself. To do Churchmen, as a body, justice, they do not ex pect it. The signatures to the petitions for extension are insignificant, compared to what they would have been had Churchmen generally concurred in their prayer. (From the Courier.) Mr. E. J. Stanley is equally unfortunate in his at tempts to defeat the River Weaver Churches' Bill, as he will be unlucky in his future attempt upon North Cheshire, should that attempt be made. The House of Alderley, albeit mitred in the person of one of its mem bers, is not over distinguished for its piety, as witness this fierce and abortive opposition to the diffusion of reli gion among a lawless race of navigators, and endeavour to retain them in utter unbelief; or turn them as a pis tiller into the ways of Socinianism so much in fashion with the Stanleys of that ilk. Nor is that house more noted forits humanity, as in proof take the New Poor law starvation and bastardy Bill, of which, Bishop and all, the North Cheshire firm are and have been such thoroughgoing supporters and gaol incarcerating advo cates. (From the Standard.) We must refer to our report for the proceedings of the House of Lords last night upon the Irish Muni cipal Bill. It will be seen, from a hint dropped by Lord Lyndhurst, that the chance of the bill passing in any shape depends upon the Government introducing a new measure to settle the question of boundaries—a course which it is scarcely open to Mi nisters to adopt. Lord Brougham protested against the 10/. qualification as too high, and observed that no objection had been raised against the household qua lification in England. But has any objection been raised against the 10/. qualification in Scotland ; and is it not notorious that from the average rate of house rent in English corporate towns, the household qualifi cation is practically a 10/. qualification ? This would rot be the case in Ireland. The sche dules have been postponed ; and, therefore, the case of the exemption of Dublin has not come regularly before the House. When it shall come under consideration, there is reason to hope that Lord Wynford's propoi.ition will be adopted. Mean while, we trust that those noblemen who would save the Irish metropolis, at least, from the O'Connell domination and from annual lLibbonmen elections, will not relax either in their determination or their exer tions. Ministers, we have the best gtounds for be lieving, will accept any Bill that shall give the city of Dublin to their patron and master, because he knows that with that lever he can effect his darling object—a dismemberment of the empire. The present income of the Church is little short of eight millions a year. We have now before us certain do cuments laid before Parliament by the Tithe Commissioners, and.ordered to be printed by the house of Commons, showing the number and amount of commutations already effected. It will be remembered that the returns of the clergy of the amounts of their income, showed the revenue of the Church to be, in round numbers, three millions and a half per annum. It was not expected, when these returns were made, that an in quiry into the actual revenues of the Church would so soon follow,—or those who made them would have adhered a little more rigidly to the truth. The number of cases of tithes to be commuted in England and Wales is 13,500. The returns made by the Tithe Commissioners (under the date 13th of February, 1840), show that 3,890 cases have been commuted, and that the total income fixed as due to the clergy from these is 1,-168,7771. Bs. 1 kid. It is fair to assume that these cases are, as compared with the total number of cases, of average value ; and hence, by the use of a little vulgar arithmetic, we find, that the revenues of the Church derivable front tithes alone instead of being three millions and a half, are actually 5,097,299/. Its. 9d. ! Now the whole of this immense sum is derivableftom tithes alone; and in it no account is taken of the large property held by the Bishops in palaces, parks, and demesnes, —by the Deans and Chapters in lands, houses, and mines,—that Queen Anne's Bounty is not included,—that part of the 5,678,7151. (See Parliamentary Paper, dated Whitehall Treasury Chambers, May 19, 18-10") which has been paid to the Church out of the taxes since 1801, is taken into account,—that glebes are not included, and that none of the many fees to Which the Church lays el:dm, as Easter dues' and marriage and burial fees, arc accounted for—when, there fore, we add all these sources of income to that which is now clearly shown to be derivable from tithes, we are certainly under the mark in fixing the income of the Church at eight millions per annum. And yet there is a party amongst the Tories who ety ont for more money—for " more Church !" Can the power of impudence farther go ? Journal. SUICIDE IN THE RlVErt.—On Sunday morn ing, between four and five o'clock, an inspector of Thames Police and his boat's crew, while passing the steps of Waterloo Bridge, on the, north side, found a man's hat, in which was a letter directed to a Mr. Divvy, a gentleman residing in the neighbourhood of Long-acre, who identified the hat as his son's, and the letter to be in the hand-writing of the missing youth, who is about nineteen years of age. There is no doubt that the young man has committed suicide, but no cause can be as signed for the act, as he was on good terms with his family up to the time of his disappearance. We are glad to learn that the colliers in the neighbourhood of Pontypotl, seeing the folly of their conduct, before the total exhaustion of their funds, have wisely teturneJ to earn their wages. • - IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE 30. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. WALLACE presented a petition from the Relief Congregation against any public grant for the purpose of Church Extension, and a petition against the Cornl-aws. Mr. HOGG presented a petition from certain ship owners and merchants of Bombay, complaining of the operation of the Navigation Laws. Ti e petition was or dered to be referred to the Committee now sitting on East India produce. 'Mr. BAINES presented a petition from the Protestant Dissenters of Cambridge with 700 signatures against any public, grant for the purpose of Church Extension, and two petitions from Suffolk to the same effect. Mr. FINCH presented a petition from the Medical Associatitu of Glasgow, praying that the working of the Vaccination 1301 might be entrusted to Vaccine Boards, and not to the Poor Law Comrnisskners. Mr. T. DUNCOMI3E presented three petitions from Messrs. Vincent, Edwards, and Snellard, the Chartists, complaining of the treatment to which they have been sub jected since their removal from the Lenitentiary, and stating that, although they were not now compelled to wear the felons' dress, they were subject in all other re spects to the same regulations as the felons, with regard to food, hours, books, and communication with their friends, and that they were obliged to tear their fo..d with their fingers, not being allowed the use of knives or forks. The lion. Member prevented similar petitions from five other Chartists named Baldwin, Bradford, Bar clay, White, and Crabtree. The last mentioned com plained that by the regulations of the gaol of Wakefield, the meat painful restraints were imposed upon hint. lie was not allowed to communicate by word, gesture, or even by look, with any of his fellow prisoners. His life was endangered by his confinement and the severities with which it was accompanied, as he had been for six years afflicted with a disease of the liver and pulmonary consumption. He was always opposed to the employment of physi cal force, and he prayed the House for a relaxation or remission of his punishment. The lion. Member presented also petitions from Glasgow, Frome, Barnsley, and several other places, complaining of the treatment to which the above mentioned petitioners and other political offenders were subjected, and praying for a mitigation of their punishment. Mr. HUME presented numerous petitions against the Copyright of Designs Bill, from printers, engravers, and others in L'.ndon, Stepney, Mile-end, Leather lane, and other places in Middlesex ; and also from Glasgow, and other places in Scotland. The Honourable Member also presented petitions from Antrim, Dromore, and Lismore, in favour of Medical Reform. From Thomas Gort, of Paisley, complaining of the defective state of the Representation of the County, and praying the House to make such alterations in the Suffrage as would render it universal and necessary to adopt the 13a1- lot. Also a petition from the congregation of the Chapel in the Poultry against Church Extension. Mr. PLUMTRE presented a petition from terWo.ces a l also a fe a v i e n r s a t i a p ny e • t t u i r o t n h s e r from g rant n d t t ir o e r t e h n e t College parts o. f o t 1 :\ I e l a . y c i ( i ) o u c n t t h 4 prayingef Bill. Captain for J tl o le N re E p s cal p o re f Down in favour of Medical Reform. the ente Roman o a m an petition t o Mr. BROTHERTON presented petitions from Man chester and Salford, complaining of distress, and praying for a repeal of the Corn Laws. Mr. EASTH 0 PE presented several petitions from the Dissenters of Leicester and its neighbourhood, against Church Extension, and praying for relief of the burthens imposed upon them. THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JULY 1, 1840. MEDICAL REFORM. Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from medical students of Briitol, praying for Medical Reform. Also a petition from a Mr. Yarn('ld, complaining of the defective state of medical law, and praying the House to appoint a national Faculty of Medicine, wherein the opinions of the vrofessien might be adequately represented. CHANGE OF MINISTERS. Mr. WA KLE Y presented a petition from 2,000 inha oitants of Carlton and Mile-end in Glasgow, pra}ing the House to address her Majesty to dismiss her present Ministers, and to call to her Councils men who would make Universal Suffrage a Cabinet measure. The pe titioners also prayed for a free pardon to Frost, Williams, and Jores. A similar petition from 1,007 inhabitants of Northampton ; and a petition from Brighton, complaining of the proceedings of that House, and of the fac tious fights that took pl,ce, which did no credit to the Legislature, and certainly- produced no benefit to the country, and proposing in order to promote a better state of things, and to obtain a better Ministry, that in future when an office became vacant, the names of every Member should be put into a glass or bag, that the Speaker should call the names over, and that the offices should be filled by lot.--( Hear, hear, and great laughter.) The petitioners were of opinion that by these means a more effective Ministry than the present might be obtained.—( Hear, hear, and laughter.) FEARGUS O'CONNOR. The Lion. Member then prt!sented a petition from 3,377 memberl of the Democratic Association of Bcthnal.green, praying the House to memorialise the Crown to grant a free pardon to Feargus O'Connor, in consequence of the unjust sufferings he had endured in gaol. CHURCH EXTENSION. Also a petition from 137 inhabitants of Haverhill, Suffolk, against any grant of public money for Cburch Extension. Mr. HINDLEY presented a similar petition from the ;ndependents of Ashton-under-Lyne. MAYNOOTH COLLEGE. Mr. LITTON presented a petition from 778 inhabitants of Dublin, against any further grant to Nlaynooth Col lege; and a petition from Mr. Harcourt Lees, praying fcr thcrepeal of the Roman Catholic Relief Bill. Mr. \V I LBR AH AM presented a petition from a parish Cheshire, pra}ing for the aboli.ion of Church-rates. Mr. ROCHE presented a petition from the retailers of sugar in Ross, praying the House to sllow the importation of foreign sugar upon the payment of ju,t and reasonable duties, in order to prevent the present high prices of the article from being continued Mr. Sergeant TA LFOUR D presented a petit on from Reading, rgainst any grant of public money for Church Extension. Mr. C. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from an individual named J. W. Smith, who deplored the divisions existing in the Christian world, and praying her Majesty to appoint a Council to revise and decide upon the different interpretations put upon the Holy Scriptures. Although the petition was wild and visionary, yet, as it was respect fully worded, he thought it his duty to present it. Mr. Ald. HUMPHERY presented a petition from St. John's, Southwark, praying for the prohibition of Sunday trading. Lord DUNGANNON presented a petition from South Shield{ against the Eeeksiastical Duties and Revenues Bill ; also one in favour of Church Extension. Mr. MORRIS presented a petition from Glamorgan against any grant of public money for Church Extension. Captain PECllELLpresented a petition from Brighton praying that Beer-shops might not be allowed to open on Sunday mornings. Mr. BAINES presented a petition from Sir C. Forbes, praying the House to prevent the importation of Hill Coolies. Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from Ormskirk in Lancashire, complaining of the expense of the Constabulary Force. Lord SANDON presented a petition from the West India Association of Liverpool, praying the House to adopt measures to facilitate emigration to the West India Colot:ies. Also petitions from Staffordshire, against Sun day trading. Mr. GOUL BUR N presnited a petition from the Clergy of Westminster, against the Stock in Trade Riting Bill; and a petition from Hocking, in the county of Essex, to the same effect. Mr. B. SNILTH presented a petition from some place in Norfolk, against any grant of public money for Church Extension. LONDON AND GREENWICH RAILWAY. On the Order of the Day being read, for the further consideration of the Report on the London and Green wich Railway Bill, Mr. DARBY said he had a petition to pre=ent from the Brighton Railway Company against the Bill. The peti tioners stated that they were satisfied with the arrange ments made by the Croydon Railway Bill of last session, but that the accommodations proposed to be provided by the ;Greenwich Railway Company under this Bill were totally-inadequate for the traffic, and praying that the Bill might not pass into a law. Mr. LAW HODGES presented a similar petition from the South Eastern Railway Company, and ttatirg that the present accommodation of the Greenwich Railway Company was totally inadequate. Mr. W. ATTWOOD had not thought it would be necessary to discuss the question at the present stage ; he should, therefore, content himself with moving the Order of the Day for the further consideration of the Report of the Committee on the Greenwich Railway Bill, and that the amendments to that Bill be now read. Mr. LA \V HODGE S regretted that he felt obliged to oppose the motion, because he was aware how irksome it would be to refer this Bill again to a Select Committee, but he was unable to discover any other course which he could with propriety pursue on the present occasion. It would be in the recollection of the House, that the Croydon Railway Company had obtained a Bill last Sesion in opposition to the recommenda tion of the Standing Orders Committee. The Green wich Railway was the common terminus of three lines of railroad already in contemplation, and it was then stated that the accommodation prov:ded was wholly insuffi cient, and that the safety of the public was compromised if these necessary accommodations were not afforded. The insufficiency of the Greenwich Railway to afford this ac commodation was acknowledged, and on that ground the House had waived the Standing Orders, and the Croydon Railway was permitted to pass; and these two Bills were introduced by the Greenwich Company, and he regretted to state that, looking at these two Bills, his opinion was that they did not carry out the views of the Select Committee on Railroads. They gave that opinion on the ground that the Report of the preceding Committee had stated that in consequence of the costs incurred by the Croydon Railway it ought to have the preference. The Croydon Company considered it impossible to go on with these works upon the ground of having higher tolls. In consequence of this the present state of things had occurred. Looking at the great outlay of the Croydon Company, he did not see why an instruction should not be sent to the Committee. The Dover and Brighton Railways were rapidly progres sing towards completion. One of them would be com pleted in lass than twelve months; and it was absolutely necessary for the protection of the public that the accom modation at the London terminus should be completed in time. He agreed with the petitioners that the Bills before the House were incompetent to carryout thatobject,and therefore he should move, as an amendment to the - motion for the con sideration of the Report, that the Bill be re-committed, with an instruction to the effect of the prayer of the Croy don Railway Company's petition. Capt. PE CII ELL seconded the amendment. Sir E. KNATCHBULL opposed it. Under all ciroumgancce he thought the 13ill itad under. gone the fullest and most ample consideration, and he ventured to .hope that they would not re-impose upon the Committee the duty it had already discharged.—( Hear.) The ollect of the amendment was not the reconsideration of the Bill, but to get rid of it altogether. Ha believed if the measure was allowed to proceed the public would be enabled to obtain all the benefits and advantages which the Railway Committee had suggested, whereas if the !Bill was postponed for an indefinite period it would subject the pubic to much inconvenience. Captain PECHELL was ready to acknowledge the satisfactory and honourable manner in which the Right Hon. Baronet had discharged the du:ies cf . Chairman. In his opinion there had been a great waste of the time of Hon. Members, and of money, during the sittings of the Committee, a great deal of evidence having been intro duced, to no purpose at Hear, hear.) Disagreeable however as the duty was, he thought they were bound to go bark to the Committee, and satisfy the claims of all parties. It appeared that the Croydon and Brighton parties thought themselves Seriously aggrieved in not being allowed to make the the termini of their railways at London-bridge. lie had no complaint to make against the majority who had voted against him in Committee, as they bad taken the greatest pains to satisfy themselves of the facts, and many of them had gone down to inspect the station. It appeared to him, however, the Greenwich Company w ou ld never b e a bl e to carr y cu t the w o rks to their completion, and he thought it time for that House to stem in and interf,'re. Under these circumstances he would support the amendment of his Hon. Friend. Sir A. DA I, RYM PLE wished to say a few words, as the interests of his constituents were deeply involved in the subject. He had gone into the Committee impressed with the conviction that no arrangement should be made be tween the companies, to deprive the inhabitants of the town of I3righton of the advantage of the terminus at Lon don Bridge. At the same time he thought they would not be justified in depriving the Greenwich Company of that portion of land which they had purchased vale years ago, for the purpose of increasing their business. In the Committee he had supported the Greenwich Company, because he thought they were the best parties to complete their own line. Then arose the question of toll. It ap peared that the Croydon Company had agreed to pay the Greenwich Company 3d. for every passenger carried upon their line, but it was absolutely certain that the Croydon Company never contemplated having a line of their own, because it could only be made on the south side, while they had built their station on the north. The Greenwich Company had proposed to complete their works within eighteen months according to the provisions of the Bill, and as it was not only their design, but also their interest to do so, there could be no doubt of its being done. They had also r &red to build a station on a platform on the south side for the Croydon Company, on condition that they were put in possession of the present station. Alto gether their conduct had been very fair; he would there fore support the original motion. \lr. DA RB Y said the real question was, whether they would deprive the Greenwich Company of land necessary for their works by a private Bill. There was a clause in the Bill prohibiting the traffic from crossing from one line to another ; therefore, unless the Croydon Company had anoth er station on the other side of the line, and which must he a matter of arrangement, the public would run much hazard ;it could not be done by compulsion. lie would vote for Oa amendment. Sir JAMES GRAHAM said the Company had per misson to make a double line, but it was not compulsory upon them to do so. Ile thought a double line absolutely necessary for the s fety of the public, and therefore, that the clause should be sent back to the Committee, with in structions to make it compulsory. Sir EDWARD KNATCHBLILL said a few words which were inaudible in the gallery. Mr. L. HODGES had been exceedingly anxious to meet the case by proposing a clause in the Committee, enacting► that. in the event of the Greenwich Railway Corrpiny failing to make the two lines, the other Corn pany might have the power of doing so; but theproposi tion had been overruled. Ile had been induced to do this because Colonel Lamreman, the engineer of the Greenwich Company, in opposition to the spinion of the General Committee on Railroads, had stated it as his opinion that the present line of railway was perfectly adequate for the accommodation of three lines. This he thou ght afforded ground for apprehension that the Green wich Company did not intend to increase their works. The Hon. Member, who was frequently inaudible during. his address, from the great confusion prevailing in the House, sat down amidst loud cries of Divide, divide." Mr. L AB() UCH ERE thought it was always the safest course to take it for granted that the Committee to whom a private Bill had been referred had done trieir duty, and had conic to the best and most honest conclusion in their power.—( Hear, hear)—and if the House reversed the conclusions come to by a Committee, he thought they were much more likely to come to an unjust conclusion than by suprrting the Committee in its decisions._ Cheers,) On these grounds he could not agree to the motion of his Hon. Friend to refer the Bill back to a Committee, with an instruction to make further inquiries into many subjects which had already occupied their at tention. At the same time he was aware of the opi nion of the Select Committee on Railroads, to which the Right Honourable Gentleman the Mem ber for Pembroke had referred, and he thought it was the duty of the House to see that the intentions of that Committee were carried into effect by the Greenwich Company. Under these circumstances, he thought that, on the third reading of the Bill, those Gentlemen who had the management of it were in duty bound to introduce a ci suse into the Bill, for the purpose of carrying those reccmmendations into effect, and making it compulsory on the Company to do so ; and if such clause were not in:rc duced, lie should oppose the third reading. As it was he could not now support the motion of his Hon. Friend. Mr. W. ATT WOOD said that the Committee had, after much muture deliberation, adopted the plan which they considered the most effectual for inducing the Green wich Railway Company to provide for the safety of the public. The clauses already introduced into the Bill, ap peared to them sufficient for this purpose ; if they appeared not to be so, it would be much more satisfactory that suc h cd.:uses should be introduced into the Bill by some Hon. Member connected with the Select Committee on Rail roads, than by those who had the management of the Bill. Mr. K EMBLE would suggest to his lion. Friend op situ the advantage of withdrawing his amendment. He was himself opposed to the Bill, as he did not think it provided sufficiently for the security of the public ; but he thought that a division, undr the present circumstances, would not promote the object which his Hon. Friend had in view. :NIT. HODGES would accede to the suggestion, and ‘lithdraw his amendment. _ _ The amendment was then withdrawn, and the Bill read a second time. Mr. HUME gave notice that be would move, on the 14th of July, that an humble Address be presented to her Majesty, prayiag that her Majesty would order the Na tional Gallery to be thrown open to the public on Sundays, during such hours as public-houses were allowed to re main open. Lord ASHLEY gave notice of his intention, on the 14 It of July, to move for an address to her Majesty, pray ing that she would be graciously pleased to appoint a Com m•s-don to inquire into the labour of children in factories. Mr. HAW ES postponed his motion, which stood in the paper for to-day, for leave to bring in a Bill to declare the holders of certain judicial offices incapable of being elected or sitting as Members of the House of Commons, to Thursday week. Mr. G. HOPE gave notice that he should to-morrow move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal so much of the Act of Queen Anne as prevented the election of mayors for Parliamentary boroughs. CHURCH EXTENSION. Mr. LAW HODGES and Mr. HAWES presented petitions against Church Extension. Sir R. ING LIS presented petitions from the Society fer the Promotion of Christian Knowledge, from the Chancellor, Masters, and Scholars of the University of Oxford, agreed to unanimously by Convocetion ; from the inhabitants of Southmolton, Devon ; and various other places, all in favour of Church Extension. The Right lion. Baronet then said, often as he had occas'on to address the House, never, except upon one occasion had he thought it necessary to implore its etten tien—he had always been contented with that attention which had been vouchsafed to him, except two or three the attention of gn Slave Trade, y th e e ars ii n o g es o e , v'tolletnheheatreenedictia:s°ou f r e t d h e t o F d o r r a e w i he thought the question so important that he had im p lored their attention'; it was cheerfully granted, and th e House unanimously agreed to an address which he proposed upon the subject. The motion be was about to propose had re ference not to those whose only claim upon them was that they were the children of one common father, and were the heirs of one common humanity; those for whom he was about to plead had the claim of brethren—they be longed, along with lion. Members of that House, to one common father land—they had the claim of fellow-Christ ians .and therefore he implorod the House to favour him with its attention, while, as shortly as possi ble, be laid the case before them. The subject was introduced to their notice by petitions of a cha racter which ho believeg pre-eminently entitled them to the attention of the House. The number, too, was very considerable ; but it was not to the number only that he would specially call the attention of lion. Mem bers. The number of petitions presented during the pre sent Session was 2,546, with 213,589 signatures, all pray ing, in different tones, for one common object—that the Ilouse would make prevision for the spiritual destitution of the country. The petitions came from a vast variety of places—many had been presented from rural districts, while, on the other hand, petitions had also been presented from Bradford, Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, and other large towns. The petitioners were conscious of the evils around, and they were conscious also of its being their duty to try to relieve them ; but they were equally conscious that nothing but national means could grapple with them. Other petitions had been presented from dif ferent parts of the kinedom, and he had himself pre seated several. Now, what was the general character o" these petitions? The petitioners did not p,.ay that they might be relieved from a burden, they asked for a good to be. purchased by a costly sacrifice to themselves— they asked that all the people should have increased means of instruction according to the pract;ec and prin ciples of the Ecelesiattical Church. They asked it on the ground that the freme-work of the Church Establish ment was formed for a different age, and that the popula lation had outgrown the Church accommodation. In the 17th century the population was 5,475 ; 000. It increased one million in the first part of the 18th century. In the second part it had increased two millions, but at the end it did not exceed nine millions. lie believed that the whole increase in the last century was six millions, but that increase had not taken place equally over the whole surface of the country, one-third of the population was comprised in towns, exceeding 10,000 in number, and, he believed it would be stated with some truth, that in every great t own where there was a population of upwards of 10,000, b td doubled its population within the last 40 years. The i ncreaee of religious instruction had not, un happily, kept Fu t - ) Frith the increase of population. In the reign of Queete A,itt, it was found that in the Metropolis alone, 200,000 eouls were .'eft without religious accommo dation, and an, -.Act of Parllai.:ent had accordingly been paßsed, providing for the erection of fifty churches for the metropolis alone. A similar necessity existed, he believed, at the present day. It was a remarkable fact, that those parts of the country which stood most in need of adddi. tional church accommodation, were those which showed the least desire for obtaining it. That was a fact which he regretted, but which he could not deny. The single county cf Mon. mouth, with a population of only 100,000 inhabitants, had presented more petitions in favour of Church Extension than the four metropolitan counties with a population of 2,300,000 souls. He would, however, leave that subject, as he did not think it could militate against the motion which he was then submitting to the House. He would pass to the main objections to that motion. In the first place there were some who said that religion was an atrair bet seen man and his God, and that it was a matter in which the State had no right to interfere. It was said by others that ti!e members of the Church of England formed a minority in the country, an I that it would be unjiht to tax Dis , enters for the support of such a Church. OtherF, again, said that the building of churches should be left to individuals, and that if they were wanted there would be found means of erecting them. With respect to the first objetion, could it be contended that individuals had an obligation which the State had not? Indi viduals were buupd to use every means in their power to do the greatest goed—all power was given by God, and should be used for his glory—and if that was true of men in their private capacity, it was true of them when filling public situations. That was a doctrine which appeared to him to be indisputable. With regard to the as , icrtion that the members of the Church of England were in a mino rity in the country, he thought it was nrmilestly an error. lie was sorry he had not been able to obtain accurate data on the subject, bat be would submit such data as he could collect for the purpose of ;hoeing the comparative num ber of Churchmen and of Dissenters in England. He found in the first place that the numb,r of Dissenting chapels in the country were stated by his Noble Friend opposite ( Lord J. Russell) to amount to no more than 10,000 which fact alone would, if true, show how small a portion they muQt form of the population. It was true that ac cording to another return which had been made by a NAL: Frond of his, the number of Dissenting chapels amounted to 26,260; but it should be observed, in the first place, that in that return were not included all species of licensed rooms, and in addition that the returns extendcd over a period of many years. Besides, many Dissenting meeting houses did not include ten householders. Ile would next refer to calculations of suhscriptins for Infirmaries in various parts of the country. Ile found that in Gloucester thirty-seven mem bers of the Church of England had contributed for one Di•r•cnter ; in Bedford clove❑ to one ; and is Leeds, where the numbers approached each other most nearly, four to one Dissenter. lie also found that Dissenting marriages throughout the ent:re country amounted to no mare than 4,088, in a period during which 6 032 members of the Church o!' England wer., mTied in London alone. It appeared - that in Lancaster the number of Dissenters amoJnted to no more than 22.5,000, out of a popuhtton of more tha❑ a million ; and, lastly, according to Mr. M' CulLch there were but about three millions of Dis- senters in England. If there were any truth in these statement, he would ask whether a Government would dis.eliar;e its duty if it refused to pass a measure for fear of diTleasing a minority of the subjects of the State. If a minority were allowed to oppose itself to the wishes and the wants of a majority, there would, in his opinion, be an end to all government, lie was aware that he might be met on that subket by an opinion he had expressed the other night. Ile would not shrink from that ()pinion, and lie would still say that he would never voluntarily give a sixpence to what he believed to be contrary to the word of God. 13tit still while he lived in a country, he should think himself bound to obey its laws. It should be remembered that no man was taxed as a Dissenter; he was taxed as a subject only, and he was taxed according to his property and not according to his creed. He denied, therefore, that any one should say that on the ground of his being a Dissenter he should say that his conscience was violated when the Parliament of the United Kingdom passed an enactment to which only were Dissenters opposed. The wealth of the Church was a topic with those who were unfavourable to such a mation as that which he had introduced. It was said that that wealth was sufficient for every religious purpose if it were duly applied. He believed, however, that the resources of the Church were much exaggerated. Besides those resources were net all in reality in the hands of the cler g y. He would give as en instance the case of the Abbey of Glas tonbury, the income of which, if received, would amount to near 500,000/. But that income could not be recovered, and it was so in other cases. Ile would state as a prof that the weahh of the clergy of the Established Church was not immoderate, the fact that the average of their incomes did not amount to more than 242/. Undoubtedly the wealth of the Church was unequally distributed ; but that was an evil with which Parliament could not in many cases interfere. Three-fourths of the livings were in the hands of private individuals, and they were as much their property as any thing else they could claim. He woulal, however, make one remark on that subject, namely that the question of Church Extension and of Church Reform were en tirely distinct. With regard to the voluntary principle he would have no hesitation in saying that it could not meet the religious wants of a great community. Let them see how that system had worked in America. Had it supplied a minister to each church there ? By their own returns it had not, for there were in America 15 000 churches, and there were but 10,800 ministers. There were other facts which would prove how ill the voluntary system had worked in America, as appeared from the work Of Mr. Mills, who had given a deplorable description of the spiritual destitution which prevailed there. The voluntary system had not lately succeeded to any extent in London, notwithstanding the zealous appeals of the present Bishop ; and it had equally failed in Chester and in York. But the worst feature in that system was that it failed in the poorer districts were assistance was most required. In Liverpool and in Sheffield there were but few free sittings ; indeed it was sometimes the boas: of Dissenters that their chapels were not in low neighbour hoods but in-more respectable parts of towns. All that hod been done by them had yet left a great deal to be done, and therufore it was'that he called upon the House and the Noble Lord, the representative of the Go vernment in the House, to grant means for providing spi ritual instruction for those who were destitute and in want. In the diocese of Ripon, the population was 106,000, the number of sittings was 41,000, but the free sittings amounted to only 15,856, All other persons wire denied accommodation in the National Church. In the A! eh_ ! deaconry of Creighton the population was 23,326, and there was not one free sitting; the Poor, who ought to be provided for were totally neglected. What would have been the situation of England had it not been for the voluntary exertions of the followers of Wesley and Whit field ?—(Cheers). The Dissenters generally did not op pose the scheme which he proposed ; the Wesleyans nobly supported it, and in the neighbourhood of London, if there had not been approval, at all events there bad been no hostility shown to his measure, for out of the vast number of Non-con'ermist congregations in the district only 38 ha.. petitioned against it. The voluntary liberality of many gentlemen had on many occasions been nobly exerted; amongst others he must first name the Hon. and venerable Member for Middlesex.—( Hear, hear,)—end the Earl of Lonsdale ; but the voluntary principle was quite inadequate to the necessities of the country. After showing the want of church accommodation as compared to the population . he said the destitution was even greater within a radius of three or four miles from where they then were. lb four parishes within that district, allowing a church to every 3 000 inhabitants. there ought to be 379 churches, while, in fact, there were no more than 69 in all. So also was it in many dioceses in the country. The revenues of the Church could not possibly meet the evil. The evil was admitted even by the Prime Minister, yet not one of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners had even hinted that the present property of the Church, by any means of distri bution, could possibly meet the evil. Then he contended that it was the duty of the country to make provision for the evil, and it was to be done by that House, for every one held his property subject to the demands and taxes im. hosed by that House. In France the estimates for 1841 had been printed, and they contained a payment of 1,128,000/. for the payment of the clergy, and 26 000/. for building churches ; and that, be it borne in mind, was to be provided for by taxation. The House would betray their duty if they talked of a Na tional Church, while they left three-fourths of the people in involuntary ignorance. It was the duty of the House to provide accommodation fur all tire oeuele. Looking at the measure in its lowest view— looking at it as a measure of police, it would prove a boon to the economists. By returns, he found that, in one year alone, in six counties, the money spent in building and re pairing gaols amounted to 1,514,0001., and the test of England spent for the same purpose 1,805,0001. Now he did not mean to say that Church accommodation for all would altogether prevent crime, but his position was that wherever churches were easily acce,sible crime was lower in amount than in parishes where the church was far off, and there was not a resident clergyman. There were many returns to prove that crime was much higher in neglected parishes than in those where the people were afforded tho means of attending the worship of God. (The Right Hon. Baronet read several extracts to show that the building of new churches in the neighbourhood of London had led to a greater demand for spiritual instruction--for education, and had greatly incressed the charitable in stitutions of all the parishes.) He was afraid, althotieh it was not said, but he thought the opposition to the measure arose from an apprehension that it would strengthen the Church of England; for it was proved that wherever it was planted it quickly obtained the love and reverence of the people. They expected from the people moral con duct, they expected from them respect and obedience to the laws—but what had they done to teach there to become such good subjects? What, as a nation, had they done to teach the people to become Christians? All voluntary efforts had been found ineffectual in the gre it work of Church Extension, and large as had been the grants that had been made, they had not supplied the wants of one town in ten. Such being the ease, lie would ask whether it did not become the imperative duty of the Legislature to interfere ? Only last night it was admitted by the Noble Lord that the want of church accommodation was felt in several parts of the country. Her Majesty's Ministers were committed to the principle that it was the duty of the Government to provide for the Christian wants of the peo ple. There were various modes in which this might be done, but he was willing to leave that to the Govern. went. All he wished was that the principle should be recognised.—( Hear, hear.) It was the duty of an individual to circumscribe his expenditure to his means, but it was the duty of a nation to raise it t expenditure according to its duties. They had the means before them, and they had only to call them out. Considering the large sums that had been thrown b ck upon the people in the shape of the remission of taxes in the last twenty-five years ; and considering also, that in the shape of the property tax alone, upwards of three hundred thousand millions had been thrown back on the people, he thought there could be no doubt they had the means to carry on the great work. He contended that, to build churches alone would snot be sufficient ; if they did not endow them they would but inadequately perform their _duties.— ( Hear, bear.) Now, who were the opponents of the grant ? It was flu unholy allianc.o between the Roman Catholics and the political Dissenters. If they refused this grant they would consign thousands of immortal souls to a state of heathenism and ignorance. In no country was it of more importancc than in England that the powerful should teach the humble their duty towards God and man, and that could be only done by a religious edu cation, according to the rites of the Established Church. Of this he was sure, if they allowed the people to remain in the ignorance they were at present of the real truths of religion, the worst results would be the consequence. The Honourable Baronet thanked the House for the patience with which they had listened to him in bringing forward this important subject, and concluded by moving the following resolution :—" That on Wednesday, the 15th day of July next, this House will resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House to consider of the follow- in;; address to her Majesty, that is to say, that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Ma jesty will be graciously pleased to take into consideration the deficiency which exists in the number of places of worship belongiog to the Established Church when com pared with the increased and increasing population of the country, the inadequate provision therein for the accom modation of the poorer classes in large towns, and the insuilici,nt endowment thereof v in other places, as such facts have been severally set forth in the Reports of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners; to assure her Majesty that this House is deeply impressed with a just sense of the many blessings which this country, by the favour of Divine Providence, has long enjo)ed, and with the conviction that the moral and religious hahus of the people arc the most sure and firm foundation of national prosperity ; to state to her Alajesty the opinion of this IlouF,e, that no altered distribution of the revenues of the Established Church could remove the existing and augmenting evil arising from the notorious fact, thnt an addition of more than six million souls has been made to the population of England already since the commence ment of the present century, and that the rate of this in• crease is u.pidly progressive ; that the grants made by the wisdom of Parliament, on the recommendation of the Crown, in 1818 and 1824, have been inadequate to supply the national wants, and that, though private and local liberality has been largely manifest, in Lid of parti cular districts, the greatest wants exist where there are the least moans to meet and relieve them ; to assure her Ma jesty that this [mouse, feeling that God has entrusted to this nation unexampled resources, is satisfied that it is the duty of the Government to employ an adequate portion of the wealth of the nation to relieve the spiritual desti tution of large masses of the people, by whose labour that wealth has been enlarged, and humbly to represent to her Majesty that this (louse will cheerfully make good such measures as her Majesty may be pleased to recommend, in order to provide for her people in England and Wales further and full means of religious worship and in- striae:ion in the Established Church." Lou.! SA ND ON seconded the motion. The question was then put. by the Speaker, and strangers were ordered to withdraw, when Mr. G. KNIGHT rose. lie wished to know whether the lion. Member for Kilkenny had given up his amend ment, as he had not risen to propose it upon the original question being put? Unless he stated to the contrary, he was bound to suppose that he had done so, being con vinced by the excellent arguments of the lion. Bart who had beought foe ward the motion.—( Hear, hear.) He was strongly in favour of the motion ; he had along been of opi nion that tile Church should do something for herself, but he was likewise of opinion that that the State was bound to do something fur her too. lie agreed with the Hon. Baronet, that there was great demand for Church Exten sion, and it was idle to say that the country had not the means to afford that extension, when it was recollected the vast sums that were exp.nded on railroads and at the shrine , of Mammon.—( Hear, hear.) Two great objects were to be accomplished by this grant, one was the increase of the number of churches, and the other of the resident clergy. He admitted that a considerable sum of money would be required to offset this object, and such being the case, the State ought, in hie opinion, to step forward and preserve the people from the demoralized condition in which they were at present placed. He thought little good would be effected without some permanent fund was provided for the building and endowing churches. In conclusion, he had only to say that the motion had his most hearty concurrence. Strangers were again ordered to withdraw, hut no divi sion took place, and on our re-admission to the gallery, we founi Mr. V. STUART on his legs, stating it to be his con scientious belief that the present subject ought to be argued, and expressing his surprise that no person on his side of the House had risen for that purpose. Lord DUNGANNON regretted that upon such question as the present they had not been favoured with the opinion of any Member cf her Majesty's Goverment. Mr. WARD said, in answer to what had fallen from tile Noble Lord, he wished to observe that ten minutes ago there were not twenty Members on the benches on the other side—(Cheers) —and moreover that the Right lion. Baronet (Sir R. Pecl)—(Cheers)—the Right Hon. Mern• ber for Pembroke ( Sir J. Graham )—( Cheers)—the Noble. Lori (Lord Stanley)—(Cheers)—the lion. Gentleman the Member for Cambridge (Mgr. Goulburn)—(Cheers) —and he believed he might add the Noble Lord himself __( Loud cheers)--who appeared to have come down just in time to complain of lion. Gentleman's non-attendance, bed not honoured the speech of the lion. Baronet with their presence and attention.—(Cheer.) He did not think the Honourable Baronet had brought for ward this question fairly. It was admitted there was a want of religious edueaion in the coun try. but without referring to the vast endowments and possessions of the Church the lion. Baronet called on the House to tax those who were supporting their own religious establishments for the support of a wealthy sect to whom they were opposed. The Right Hun. Baronet might object to the Church of England being called a sect, but was it anything more than a sect established by Act of Parliament ?—( Hear, hoar.) The • Hon Bart. had referred to the present state of Glasgow, and described it as being in the lowest state of destitu ion —and yet lie called on the House to grant money for building a Church which the inhabitants of Glasgow, being Peesbvte dans would never enter.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Baronet had said, that if he had been born a subject of the Turkish empire, he should obey the laws of that empire ; and it would appear from what had fallen w frm o o uid er hav o c ce occasion, en one e d of he t e be e s s t s urd b i o e r s n t a fro D m is i s l e im nter on he a Dissenters that ever lived. But it would appear that the Honourable Baronet's lot had fallen on the sunny side of the hedge. The lion. Baronet, when he assumed the propriety of submission to the ma j or i ty, should remember 1 1 that majorities were varying and temporary, nod that a person who acted constantly on that rule would be fre quently changing his principles, or at least his practice. He (Mr. Ward) must differ from the lion. Baronet. that the Dissenters did not oppose this motion, and he felt justified in doing so, by the number of petitiouz they had presented on the subject, and it would appear that Hon. Gentlemen around the lion. Baronet were not very anxious for its success, or he would not, on a for mer occasion, have found himself " alone in his glory," and " deserted at his utmost need " by these to whom he might naturally have looked for support, both on that and on the present occasion.—( Hear, hear.) Hors. Gentle men, before they voted for this measure, should consider whether they were prepared to defend this vote before their constituents.—( Opposition cheers.) What was this " Grant ?" Was it for a small suns not worth talking about, of ten or twenty thousand pounds ?—or would no Gentlemen act up to their principles, and vote a sum amounting to at least three or four hundred thousand a year? Let the House know this, that lion. Gentlemen might vote with a safe conscience; not but that he ( Mr. Ward) would vote conscientiously without this knowledge, for he had made up his mind to vote against the motion.—( Cheers ) Mr. R. M. NIILNE S said that, notwithstanding the able and eloquent speech of his Right Hon. Friend, he should not have voted for his motion, did he not think that he had common sense and reason on his side.—( Hear, hear. ) His Right Hon. Friend had been taunted with not having proposed the sum which would be necessary for his purpose, but it was well known that, by the forms of the House, he was not able to do so.—( Hear, hear.) The speech of the Han. Member fo: Sheffield had been the only one which they had been favoured with from the other side, the eloquence of his Hon. Friend appearing to have been so convincing that the Hon. Member for Kilkenny had forborne to move the amendment of which lie had given notice.—( Laughter.) 0: all the means that had ever been devised for grappling with moral evils the most effectual was thai of a resident minister of the Christian religion.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member for Sheffield had defended the grants necessary for war on the ground of their great exigency. But was not this a war, and with a greater and a more dangerous enemy ?—( Loud cries cf Hear, hear.) He would not extend this vote to Ireland, not wishing at present to tax that country any further for the support of the Established Church. It was absolutely necessary the people of this country should be saved from that infidelity, or fanaticism, into which., without a round religious C. u cation, they would inevitably fall. It was as nesessaly to guard against the one as against the other, for what feel ing is so strong as religious fanaticism, which had ever borne on its side the genius and philosophy which adorned the Commonwealth, and which at the present day, induced a handful of Spanish peasants to bare their; breas's to th e bayonets of an army, while the Chartists had thrown down their arms and deserted their miserable Charter and its points at the fire of a handful of soldiers. He entreated the House to put a favourable construction on the rarity of Members on his side of the House. This was not a party question—( Loud cheers from the Ministerial side) —but one which he thought it incumbent on all who desired the welfare of the nation to suliport.- 7 ( Cheers. ) Mr. BAINES said he did not rise for the purpose of interposing any obstacle in the way of Church E xtens i on , • but to inquire into the destitution compl a i ne d o f, and the appropriate remedy for that destitution. In the Report of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners it was stat e d th a t th e number of pari-lies in England and Wales amount to 10,742, and it is said that the defects which c r ippl e th e energ ies of the Established Church in the large and popu lous districts of the kingdom is the want of churches and ministers, and the following facts would illustrate this po- sition : That in the 34 parishes of the metropolis there is a populaton of 1,137,000 And church room for only In the diocese of Chester there are 36 parishes (principally in Lancashire) with a popula tion of 816,000 07,700 And church room for only Or about one eighth. In twenty parishes and districts, each with a population of 10,000 at least, in the diocese of York, there is an aggregate population of 402,000 With church accommodation, fur only 48,000 The proportion varying from 1-6:h to 1-30th, And in the diocese of Lichfield and Coventry there are sixteen parishes or districts, with an average population of 235,000 Church room for about The proportion varying from 1-6th to 1-14th, From these reports there appears to he a deplorable deficiency of accomodation for public worship in all the populous districts of the kingdom, and as far as the Church Commisthonors aro ooncerneti, it vrae pericaly EVE NING EDITION, proper that they should present these statements, but when Parliament called upon to legislate not for a sect, but for a nation, it behoves them to enter more deeply into the inquiry, and to ascertain what is the real defi. cieney. According to ;the Reports of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, there are 10,742 parishes in England and Wales, and from the population returns of 1831, we learn that there are _ 8,000 parishes with a population varying from 10 individuals to l,OOO 2,430, with a population from l,OOO to .5,000 __ _ _ 200 5,000 to 10,000 110, above Each of these parishes contains a parish church, and it may be fairly assumed that 10 000 of them at least have ample church accommodation, while in many of the parishes where the population exceeds 5,000 there is, undoubtedly, a deficient supply ; but even in tlise selected by the Commissioners, each with a population exceeding 10.000, the deficiency is by no means to the extent that these reports might seem to indicate. Let us next inquire as to the large towns and manufac turing districts selected by the C o mmissioners, and first of the metropolitan parishes,with their population of 1,137,000, and in which there are now 194 churches and episcopal chapels which affird accommodation to 126,480 persons ; nod 256 chapel: , , not of the Establishment, which, accord ing to tile Rev. Baptist Noel, will accommodate an equal number of hearers. So that in reality there is double the quantity of accommodation for religious wolship to that stated by the Church Commissioners Of tue districts in Lancashire in the diocese of Chester, with a population of there is Church room for .........97,700 Chapel accommodatior 97,700 195,400 In the County of Lancaster there are 68 ptris'aes, con tainn.r,'32l Churches and Episcopal Chapels, and 530 Chapels not of the Establishment. LIVERPOOL. Episcopal Churches and Chapels Other places of Worship .16 The estimate of average attendance is as follows : In the Establishment Dissenting Congregations Roman Catholics (communicants) 12,000 Population, 168.175. bO,OOO 95,000 rc'urn nearly corresponds with that made by the Town Clerk of Liverpool, and is independent of Sunday School Scholars, of whom there are belonging to the Cliurch 6,000 To the Dissenters, Methodists, and Catholics 13,000 MANCHESTER AND sALroHu. Population 272,761. Accommodation. 29 Churches and Chapels of the Establishment 33,000 71 Chapels not of the Establishment 43,700 SUNDAY SCHOOLS. In the Borough of Manchester. 25 Sci,oolg of the EEtabli3hedlurch 6l Schools not of the EstabLstancht In tile Town of Leeds there are— 76,700 Scholars. 10,2'37 22,909 33,196 Accommodation. 13;235 Churches 9 ... Independent Chapels Catholics Wesleyan Methodi,ts Methodists not Wesleyans 9 ... 4,980 Miscellaneous 29 39,73 i As appears from the statistical returns made in the year 1839: Population, 82,121. In the Sheffield Union there is Church and Ch" Tel accommodation, from the Returns made by the C. , .rks of the Poor-law Union in 1838, as follows : Churches. Accommodation. In Sheffield Attencliffo and 13rightsidc 1 ... ,000 Flandsworth Dissenting places. In Sheffield IB At tenclifie and Brigiaside 8 ... Har,:is worth 16.095 3 520 1 OSO 20,695 31.4:a Population, 71,720. NOTTINGHAM. Return made by Oz. Town Clerk to Parliament. Churches Dis,,enting Chapels These fire Churches are estima:ed to contain... 5,800 And the Dissenting Chapels l2 000 17,600 Population, 56,680. Exclusive of 6,726 Sunday-school Scholars; of 1,678 belong to the Established Church, and 5,048 to the Dissenters. tt a'gMlNc."A , t. In the Diocoe of Lichfield and Coventry there arc 17 Churches and Chapels of the Esta blishment, accommodating 23.600 persons. 44 Chapels not of the E:tahlishment, which accommodate 34,700 The population of Birmingham according to the Census of Ibsl amounted to 146,956 and it has since increased considerably. There are 15 Sunday Schools of the Establishment giving instruction to 4,565 Scholars. There are 41 Sunday Schools not of the Establish ment, giving instruction to 12,101 Scholars. From these R turns it appears that the accommodation at Public Worship in the large manufacturing districts of the kingdom is by no means so defisient as the House will be led to suppose from the Retu-na of the Chiveh Commissioners, upon which the Hon. Baronet wishes the House to legislate. These exam ples might be multiplied to almost any extent with similar result,., and, I must say, that w thi n my own experience, I scarcely ever knew an instance of any family poor, or rich, who had a desire to attend a place of rcic-- gious worship, and who showed that desire by their con duct, that did not succeed in obtaining accommodation, and who did not prove the truth of the observation of the old divines, that '' where there is a will there is a way." The Ecclesiastical Statistics of this couatry arc most reprehensibly deflecnt, but according to the best calculations made upon the subject, there is church 1 , and chapel accommodation for about one half the wholc j number of the population, and of that accommodation nearly one half is furnished by the Dissenters, the Metho dists, and the Roman Ca:holics. In the year 1639 re turns were made to the Poor-law Commissioners front 246 Unionq, comprehending something more than one , thitd of the population of England and Wales. These returns have not yet been laid before Parliament, and they are described as not very accurate in their details, but they arc said to exhibit the following results : RETURNS MADE TO THE FOOR-LAW COMMISSIONERS IN 1838. Churches and Chapels of the .Esta blishment Dissenting Placas, probably includ ing Licensed R-)onas 4,900 Accommodation in Church's, 1, 730,C0n for Ditto in Dissenting and other Cha pels not of the Establishment for 1,530,000 In ordrr to show what has been effected by the various classes of l'r, - )testant Dissenters to supply the people of this country with religious instruction, and at what cost they have effected that object, it may be stated from tho most authentic sources of information, that the number of Dissenting Chapels in England and Wales amount to up wards of 8,000, as follows : Congregat;ollq. Congr , gationalists or Independents :>,060 B.ptists 1,460 Presb) 3.t)52 Wesleyan and other Methodists 3 720 Calvanistic Methodists Welsh Methodists 8,072 Exclu - ire of 500 Roman Catholic chapels, and 4b3 Home Missionary stations, and a vast number of rooms licensed for preaching, The cost of erecting these chapels, and the purchase of the land upon which they stood, has varied from 500/. to 10,0001., and may be fairly,taken at an avc r3ge of 1,000/. each, making an aggregate expenditure of £8,000,00i1 The stipends paid to Dissenting ministers by their congregations, vary from SOL to 4001. a year, and average 150/. each, making in the whole The contributiot,s to the poor of their respec tive congregations, the cist of repairs, and other expenses of places of public worship, with their theological seminaries, and con tributions to Missionary and other reli4ious Societies, and to the education of the poor children in their Sunday and day schools, is estimated at Nicking, in the whole an expenditure of £2,000,000 Su that the different denominations of Christians not of the Established Church, after having expended from eight to nine millions sterling in building places of worship for the religious instruction of the people of this country, impose upon themselves a voluntary tax of two millions a-year for one of the noblest objects by which man can be actuated, namely, a desire to impart moral and religious instruction to his fellow-man, and that without receiving or asking from the State, or from the Church, any part of their rovcnues. If these be facts, and they are incontrovertible, I would ask this House if it is wise, or if it is jest, to force from those who do so much of their own free-will, contri butions for the erection of edifice*, and for the support of ministers, to whose doctrine or discipline they have con scientious objections ? As to the quality of instruction given by the D;ssenters to that part of the people who ehooce to receive at their hands religious knowledge, I shall only say this, that such is the effect of that instruc tion, that very rarely indeed are Disset,ters to be found either in your prisons or your workhouses. From the first they are kept by the cultivation of religious habits and moral principles, and from the last by that prudence which is inculcated upon them in their youth, and which regulates their conduct in their riper years. It was totally unnecessary, it would be a total waste of the public money to provide religious accommodation for all the people. Many would not go to Church even if it were brought home to them; there were many w ho could not attend, and a very large class who would attend their own eharels, The ii.igbt Hon. 17)-aronot I'o srokeu