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JoliN WRIGHT. 1 46, 11 • r 4 race r, inierable sensatioi t lies been made in Con r. bg the legal p roceed lit ' s against Mr. s choolmaster, vlio has lately de -40,1 leliglOUs lectures, ati.l held meetings for on Unitarian principles in chi Illsrlde-sine., Liverpool. iattirday following his first exhibition, attended iiy.his protesiienat friends, 'ed at the Town -Hall on the subject "try of the Long-room in 14 ar ble stilted t o the Mauistrates that he hail [ester, and on.inquiry at the Itegistraes )(I to Ins surprize, that th e registry ept in so loose and irregular a moan- Mcould not trace the reglstratiol! of arble- street, but ttiongti lie 'could ritte n , lie had succeeded in obtain evidence of the fact ; and Mr. Ro nn hting called and sw o r n , de uttmeen th e years 1796 anti 1798, of the registry of thts room. iu a Court at Chester, was obtained '64tl" n of Kilh an iit e M et h o di sts, o f : he was, awl still is a member. was placed in the !otitis of Mr. who blocs: dead, amid the 'loco nOt to be fotititL After the cer- Aitaincil, the congregation tort for Om same room, iviii e h they quitted tun (It Zion Chapel, and that the "letWartli' occupied as a place of teli" ss hy several oth er congregat i ons o f ~ tin to the year 1816, when or Killiainite Methodists again It while their ow chapel was under itious. ' 44 ° ll t questioning th e tes ti m ony of lil ' {h that it requi . red the place to be /obit tor every new congregation, out filar Mr. Wright had erred uttinten- QF the informations were with. ' ll the remaining information be was lie mitigated penat.yof 20s. Against E ; na" the defendant appeakd to the I ,ns, end t h e h earing was appointed . ask en Satiirday morning, the Court hear the appe, i i i ant i i n a short title 'll w as tilled. with a very respectatt • I Lamb e ltavi ng stated that be HP 'net of the conviction of Mr..Tolin ;tail been fined 20s. for preaching (. 1 ' 1 " certificate of regiberatioll. ,[i ' n) llbell to prove that b e l e t the 't V r ight, and Mr. Rees Davies to : 4 c't that Mr. had, at the time itl „ eo tivietin t i, peached in that roots. 'Perk was examined to prove that 'Olen the conviction tonk Place, Pro: , tifie ate of i e . st ratio n. 'Mr. %Vat . ' egistrar of the Bishop'sCoort at C ,fit ‘8- t h:it li e h af t searched the recor ds *tier to discover it any cent iacate o f ' '''‘ tl ( l he kinil, hut that• he toa d V, 1 1, `4.- The witness admitted, now ••=ii;t"l-'ooly to th e .ti tue w h en he entered office, which was in 1809, the 1 " I s' tI depar tment were kept in a tri 4.1141 Iti ot) u l ' lt e, and he did not imagine it at t he "fill, probably not more than one. f 111 .1 ate •• . ' was .th -re tu existetkLe. Veilithit Pro secution,. , • Mr. Lawrence, on behalf of Robert Weston, 5 ' l '6 ',was sitiystantiall), the same'as un dlr fr, b "t* adding only, that . the . c n_c_ 1 111 4 ,, t rt i t , Y AN 4 ; I I . • Parry, who then liven a n d tc,:v•nester. Dr. Stewart', a clergy" iCildo ntatnitity of Scotch Bueghers, W" 1 / (1 trOVed that he'preaened in rite 40, ie-sti eet, from Nov. 1807, to 404 4 f",!,14t several otter preachers both At~itninw . 0 4 , 1 . en hint. n , f the inquiry, and wh ile . tine w i were under CltatOttlatlOti, tr e b les t i t her th e mo ns in Marble-street ti tel :"e time Of obtaining the alleged plit.lted for secular purposes anti r i 4 esti, I '. on the part of the pioseco• yr o% 4 1 , and deposed, that some three Il itt to !i t ' , be attended at a debating so ti( of which Mr. Ity:eY. the Co. , tv e 11'4' te ti4o agenteut„ li e also swore 44 "ei h • tumor ' A i , ea, , t Years sluice, aco , 41 fur ti ( ;: n ili.ed the ronin as an. eshibi : 44p. qtr (11 14y of his slight-of-helm t[calteil tt t t et . i ving thei itrt o r deei,ion, salt, the two parts. Ist. Whethe r w i t ie (len registration of th is , ill "ether, supposing that to have .4k /. c'tit ere int d been, by the purpose. to t tl e ! i-t hi ls ii, ‘ :, ' , 3 -: „ u PPlittd, disconti uance 14. 4( 1„ the first' of these paint:, tt ' ° out the Recorder, that .t r , h ir hi 14 Ct is very incotriplete•-:-- Pi ot , t tv toi Y. nY whom it was said tha Qi i t ll ;tts. Ita „! blained, anti who, it was Iltliving Chrater-, called to NIL kt ea tt. I was rale..ol', la w to require :ti ts all hat could be produced,' and as Pt ru ll th e fed aPitellant it WAS for him „ f t nitio, tit. u,riy. On the '41141l li :4 1 1 1% , ir t : P ,Co ' tir ' t could not a g e ; lat. It WAS necessary that ii4l4nt should have a fresh I, l [ l tor piLtee w t it ors tip, yet as the '4t it „ t o sot - ,•erttucates generally ex. 'I "ee tli t tt , be registered was y., set • elthip.-it certainly did ap '44'4.4 tlii ( t 'ne4 l: l : l , l : E Y w ail 'broken by the intro • iih t i cunt a lethliar and profane na ,lFi4tana iti tisedly been 'the case' in (..`4arble.strett. tinder these leit44 %II felt it their duty to con ' Whic h 'was confirmed accord- , hi?tetti"i)`were then taken again" lt4 1 ) by all over;•ruled ; awl htis7le4l 3, Counsel, mated 111 3 in' (IteN4 " Cowls above. --(From the • e t .) `,~.. _, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. 110i1SB OF LOItDs, TUESDAY, APRIL 29. VTR ROYAL ASSENT Was declared, by Commission, to the Irish Arin't: Registry, the Irish Peace Preset rat ion, anti the t ochincal Trade Bills, and to three others of a private or local description. The Lords Cionmissioners were, the LOUD CHANCELLOR, the Earl of SHAPTESBUWi, 4011 Earl BATHURST. he''consideration of Bailey's Divorce Bill was further postponed till this day se'unight. The case of the Wirnewell Peerage was ordered to he taken into consideration on tl day fort night. After disposing of the private and routine busi ness before the [louse, their Lordships adjourned to td-morrow. "wows ', r''t wtirsl IP ' lell;•room: All A 03 ' , lle 84torti ii 11,4 6 got, atti ii 1 / 4 4 1 aPPeared a It tlie registry t In to '. alit' , it state 4 t O Cl 4. iester illte f . 4 "ound to ke i 4 , tkiat pt in I t toi, .le c „ i , 0 „ 11,,, '4 I ill Altirt 11 1., ~ ,..4 : ,1 1 wtitt 411 ; Icy e%itle 1 . 44 nun, on it t , ), , t l4( bet,%%, l'. l 'Rcle R. of 1 t L, stiapis Coi L: 4 k.. 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Iv 41tv , -..clAt t 4 4 Il j 4 4'41 it ~ t , i , ra t ..t, 4 41 , ' tha t 1 g t t ttli ( ,; ll uttle t . 1 t heq 41 ' 1 tri l ,l ll t 1 .14 r, vditi 11l 111 l't•vi t) ' I,f i j'e lt MI 0 cts 1 %tit) "t lit ti re gfl4t 1 4 ( N I ..1 4 4 . l iiite k t 4 th L fifil ti til l li L t e ,Or th ' Well L 't . etic,, t Prol it '4'Pileti 4 'lei anti SL tvirt. i ."o clip" HOUSE OF COMMONS The SPEAKER was summoned to the House of Peers. On his return be informed the House that the Royal Assent bad been given by Commission to several public and private Bills. For which see the Lords. Seijeant ONSLOW presented a Petition from certain inhabitants of the parish of Christchurch, in the county of Surrey, against a lliil now in the House,. for enlarging the Church-yard of the said parish.—Ordertd to lie on the table till the second readin:r of 0.. Bill, General THORNTON postponed the motion of which he had gireu notice, for leave to bring in is kill to abolish she punishment , if Whipping on Female °Senders, to the I.llh of May. Mr. H. ADDINGTON presented an account of the number of Persons confined in the Prisons of England and Wales, under the Game Laws.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. ABER( ROUBLE postponed, till Moodily, his raOtints• respecting the Clni.nants on t heritable Sock ties. Mr. CALVERT presented a Petition - ft oui the parish of All. hallows the Great, against a Bill now its the I louse for.in• creasing the Tithes in the City of London. He observed they had been doubled its 1804, and it was rather too much that the Gentlensen interested in the Bill should come to PA-lia na:fa so soon its the year 1817, to get. them doubled aptio.--• • The Petition was react, and ordered to' lie ace the tit:fle also presented a Pitition fro a the united parishes of St; Mi chael Paternoster Royal and St. Mi.riin %Int, to the same rfrect.—Ordered to lie on the tank, as were several s'Olii:tr Petit :iota front differeAt cs in the City of London. Mr GRA ;TAN present , ., a Petition the Oirp.oratlhe of Dublin against tin Dublin Gas Light Bill.—Ordered•to lie an the table. On the trothin . of Sir EDWARD RNATCHBULL.,the Report of the Game Preservation Bill was taken into further consideration, ,and tins Sill ordered to. be read a third time on Monday. SALT Du nEs. On ,the. Order of ,tie 1).1 being . resd for the second reading ot the Salt Unites Sir C. Pout oppoied thc Bill; and contended the effect 9t it would hv chive the li,hernico out .of the trade they Are at prescnt followed, and force them to employ their capital and ind .stry agamst the la sot their country, as the proba bility was, that those who were thus compelled to abandon their present c would become smug glers. Tl,e,persons at present occopied in the fisheries amounted to 20.000, All of these might be retitle. d to beagary by the Bill noN before the Hour 1, and whits, be Vynitill it 4 , was the good to he derived taint the plait iironglit forward yesterday compared with the evil which would t bus he produced ? At all events, the sub ject wit , one which ought to be inquired ; and this inquiry mold only be properly conducted by a Collimate up stairs. He would riot oppose the second rcPding 44 ti-e Pill, if•tltr who brought it forward ssr..ie disposed to send. it' to a Select COMMittee, instead of riferring it in the usual way to a Committee of the whole House ; ,but, if . this were : not thole, h e should he disposed to move, as an antenorneui, that the Hill should he read a breinni OW On that day six Months. The SPEAKER ill(lliked It the [lon. Baronet ill: tended to move wu h an:ausendineni Sir C foie then itio%;ed.that rile Bill should be read a seeond,timeon that slay six months: Sir W. Lawton seconded the amendment, and contended the Bill, containeol ceriatn regulations which would make it impossible tar the trade tine caeripl on to he continued, if it should pass into ttle,t. Mr I.4v3HINGTaN said, the real übecC,Of the Till was to give the 'fishermen, by way (it exPe riment, t i lt opportunity (it wiing rock salt in the curing of fish. This' had been tried tVith,sneCesi in the Isle ot Man, and it was thotighs desirable' that our otVit fishermen should have an app(irtii nity of doing the ,same. Till he success of the experiment had been ascertained, every — facility would be given to them, and the me +sure was in tended to benefit those very persons against whose best interests it was supposed to be directed A further discussion took place, in, Which Mr. Egerton, Mr. rremayne, 'MI. 1). Gilbert Mr. :Grenfell, Sir T. Arland, Finlay, Lord Covii rane, and the Chancellor of the•Exchetpter parti cipated. Sir 'C. Mr, in the end. withdreW his Amendment, at ,!:be suggestion of the Speaker, that instead, of sending the 401 in a'CommitiT up stairs,'the more convenient coutse would he to refer it to, a Special CoMmittce CAt..CaAIFT took this occasion to , ex p re ss a hope, that by persei•ering in his opposition t*tlle Salt Duties, which he was determined to do, h e , and those who acted with hint, Would eventually' Succeed, and at it p eriod not More remote than the next Session of Parlimmieut, in relieving the public from the . harden of Which they had at present to 'complain. He Confidently looked forward to see': k not committed, but abolished altogether. The Bill was then read a second time, and ot.-, dered to be e wilmitted on Monday se'nnight. • FINANCE commiTrE,E.,,, Mr..PEL-mrived that. the several Estimates of the Mistellattemis Services of Ireland - be referred to the Fi , lance Committee Mr.fhattNair understood that during the present Session there was not to' be proposed any Lint or issue of Exchequer Bills. It was importini, therefore, to be informed what the new svorm for meeting the public . exigencies Was new system there utmost he. A large aunt must •be wanted to Meet the difference between the public revenue'add the piiblic expenditore. The Budget would nett be laid before Parliament till a late pe riod of 'the Session. He was afraid from the pro-. gress which the Finance. Committee had hitherto made, the House were hardly warranted in ex pecting to derive any tuaterial information front them for some time, with respect to the financial prospects of the country. It 'was Most material, theref.a. c . know' svbat the ;Alt) WLICI) the Chaneellor or: the Exe;ietprer . intekded to adopt ? Mr• DAVIES GILD-EU+, after a sfarment nt t he different subjects which had hitherto occupied thr Committee, stated, that it was in their-contem plation to direct their attention is soon as possib! , to the'subject of the Inconteand ILxpenditnre the ensuina year. MT. TIERNRY wished to know what was Ow probable produce of the Revenue for t.te coming year The HOuse were coinidetely 'in 'the dark With respect to the financial 'operations of the Right Honourable ,Gentlernan - The CHANCELLOR of the Ex'citeauErt, in his• usual low tone of' voice,'jnstified the plan whieh . had been followed by the 1 . 4'41116e Committee in their investigations. It wits necessary, while a, particular service was before them, that they stir - told confine their attention to that, and it was' not ill they had gone through the differen! de prtments, that they could proceed to' the cond.-, deration of the whole. When the Committee had proceeded so far in their labourg, they would then he enabled to lay a satisfactory Report before , t be' House. llr. Pt attNEY said, he had no doubt that the Comnittee would give in a Report, but Whew would it come ? The material examinatiOn Was not yet begun. And yet how much was he scouted when he proposed that tut) separate Committees should be appointed, one to inquire into the Re v;enne, and the other into the Expenditure. Had proposition been, however, adopted," 'they would now have had a statement of the Finances ' of the. Country on the table of the [louse— teticaik6 they could not expect any such statement till %Nue at least. ; The motion was then agreed to.. LEAD bord LASCELLES pstponed his motion for ren dering the Proprietors of Lend Mines liable to the poor -rates, until to-morrow. THIRD SECRETARY ( )F STATE. Mr. TIERNEY rose to propose, in substance, a soitilar motion to one which he had the honour of submitting to the House in the former Session, but .in white!), unforttioately, the: House did not think proper to Concur. That motion was for an Address to his Royal ,Highness the Prince Re for the direct abolition of the office or the Secretary of State for War and the Colonies'; but he-should not now repeat that Motiou ; he desired only a Committee to inquire into the nature of the business that remained to it on the expiration Of hostilities, and to ascertain whether it might not be transferred to some other office, without disadvantage to . the public service.' This Mode of proceeding did not result from any change 9f opinion on his part, but from a conviction that his only hope of success was by means of u Coin mittee of Inquiry, and what was ino triflink in &Cement to him, this course of proceeding had already been sanctioned by the Treasury; Early in the last Session, the Lords of the Treasury, by a Minute, requested Lord Binning, Mr. Ryder, and Mr. Sturges Bourne, to undertake an' investi gation of all officei created' since the commence ment of the war;, the office of Third Secretary' , of State came directly under that denomination ; but by some omission, to him most unaccount able, that office was the only one that escaped their observation. This office had, in.ftiet, been &Cate(' in the year 17V4, and solely for the pur poses of the tour, and he could Conceive no reason for those Gentlemen not having investigated its nature and utility, hilt the desire, too evident on the part of Ministers, not to go before the House in matters of economy, but to wait until they are 'goaded on (6 sonte practical measure of retrench mew. All he now required of the House to do was, to complete the object 'of that . Treastiry Mi nwe which those Gentlemen had neglected, and that was necessary for him was, to make out a case that would shag sufficient reasons for the inquiry—to shew that the office had growin out of the war—nnd that the business might be trans ferred to other offices, without incouvenitmce to the public service. He had, no objection to the Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Goutburn) confirming hi office—nor +lid he mean t o says that the lins'inessuf the Colonies vOis not heav:ypor that, the lion. Gentleman did not eat n his salary; hot he would Undertake to aline 9at the Hon. C entletna►r and his Plantation Clerks might be 'Transferred to other offices. It had been lately fli,c(,vervd thitt two Lfltdi of the Admiralty were necessary bulwarks of the Constitution, but he did not expect to Ii the same thing alleged of the Third Sccretin•y of State. This office had beet) originally an excrescence from the Po» reign Office, framed solely fot the war; but in 1802 n ne w arrangement Was made, by which toe colonies were transferred to it: and it took the atittitional name of the Colonial Depart ment. The office was thus divided into te„. brandies, the War 89(1 the' Colon es; hut by l i e-jermilmt ion of war, it eras, of eolirse, .tripped - of halt itslabOur, and more t lan lalt the eitablishment of clerks To reduced : but still the entire salary was continued, although, in fact, it hteatute nothing more that halt an office. The whole, business of this halt office was then the, co. hones, and the only argument that could be tid y , need for its cone - inuanee wa'S'the Increase of the colonies during the war. If the colonies ha t ' ic. nia . ue d a$ i n 1692, there could he no prete»ce for the continuance of this °like, that being 8 time ot 14.3ce like the present ; but the colonies were increased by Otte, nod the best $ .- node of simplity• ing the question appeared to be this : suppose nine colonies 113(1 been obtained tor the country ' by a definitive treaty of pettee, was there any Gen doom, i n the House who would elate that such 4111acrinisition could justify the creation at an ad ilitioual Secretary at State ? and If the acquisition nt them by a treaty of Peace would not rendor the office necessary, bow could it become so be- et;use - of their haititig been obtained by the opera tions of war ? Compared with the year 1792, the increase of the colorites %ills nine, but compared w i t h 1802, there was no increase, and previous to that period the business of the colonies was trans. Home acted in the : -Department. Let the House then remember that the Duke of P ort l an d execut ed the ditties of the Home Office frail' 1794 to 1801, and if they were to consider the state of th e Mime Deportment at that period, they teight prObably think the is of nine colo gne, nut much greater labour than Wa then at-, „ ,chc:l to that office. The D„ke of Portland bad 3t OA lithe the Meittagement of every eolony-... ILO the control of the whole Executive Govern otAmt of the empire-- , -had the : superiotemienre df Ihe Alien (Mire,. attended at that Gine with no small lab Our. The care of the Militia, just then embodied, was also intrusted to the sane It hAtt ttitr,i!atir:e correspondence with Ireland, et Lich then formed'ud part of the United Kitig• rl o m, bat bad a 644inet Government, and 'all lel- Legisinto ,having 'n4, Secretary for Irish affairs in this colmf;vand.being, still more, at that nine in a "state of '':"chellion. All these matters had the Duke of PortbaA to manage, and it skinkd alio be:rethembered, that 'luring a cotra siderahle portion of - his AdutinistratiO;” the jute 'rimr of the country was not more tranquil Alan at present. The HaheaS Corpus Act Wits suspend:Nl, and if they were to believe every tjiing told at the time as they were required to do at present, theme never was a country in which a more vi o l en t re bellion was raging.--(Lattgl;iog.)—Vet it had never been heard that the Duke of Phttland com plained of all this employment, nor would he be. lieve that if Lord Sidmouth had the same duties to futfil at present, he would have complained of their weight, and required anwher Secretary of State to relieve hint of the burden. The Duke of Portland never desired to have the colonies taken away .trom him, not wheo Lord Chicle*. ter was appointed to the Home 'Department, in 1801, did his Lordship' desire it. Let' Lord Chichester he examined befose a Committee, and if his Lordship should say that hit desired, on eci. cepting the Home Department, to be relieved from the weight of the colonies, be (Mr. Tiernett) would never again open his lips respecting the office of Third Secretary of State---unless, at deed, in support of could not be series that this arose from any indifference on the part of Governntent towards the colonies, butt there was not hing,which this country ever seemed so anxious to preserve to the Crown, as that part, of the wreath which was composed of the colonies. Since that time, however, the Home Department Was in a great degree relieved trom Ireland ; the Alien Law was so mildly exercised, that not more than two persons were said to have been sent out of the kingdom since its enactment ; the militia have been disembodied ; and the only reason now to be adduced against restoring to the Home Depart. went its former &ound over the 'colonies, was. the necessity of delay, until the , interior of the Empire was restored to tranquiility. The saving to the country, by the reduction d this office, would, ova moderate calculation, be from 10 to 12,0001; ' ulcer, besides the retiring salary of 2,0001. a year,' which the Finance Committee have st4tgeitettes a suitable compensation to re tiring 'Secretaries of State. This was a saving distinct from the reduetion of the Army or Navy; arid; he' was convinced, that reducing the salaries Of the higher offices of the State would effect a greater economy than all that had been suggested by the Finance Committee. There were many offices to which terse salaries were attached, which had but little or no business connected with them. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (the Master of the'Mint) might indeed say, it was not until within this month he had much Idle time on 'lds Lands; but now having issued, with much lath. faction to the country, the,new coinage, be had got hack to his old titration of having nothing to do (A Laugh).—and having no partlCular department, he' Would probably again be able, as on tut met occasions, to answer for all.—(A Latsh.)o-That Right Hon. Gentlemari might probably undertake the concerns of the colonies, but he still conseieu• tiously believed, that if it was transferred as of old to'the Home Department, the labour would not be fonnd too 'distressing. He bad stated that ere was an increase of nine coloniess--four in the West Indies, three In the East Indies, and two in the Mediterranean. Ot these, three might be pro. periy placed under the Board of Confront, and as they were all quite unconnected with each other, they might be st parated among different depart ments, witbotit any inconvenience,, only that it would be of advantage to have all those in'the West Indies under the same system. Ceylon, the Cape, anti the Mauritius, ought to be transferred to rite Board of Controtil and St. Helene might be put in the same state, only, as being noes a gaol, it more properly might belong to the Pollee of London. Ceylon would be no more difficult to * manage than Gibraltar, since We had put 'down the King of Candy; and Malta was of the st o ne description : but of the lonian Islands he did not well know hoW to speak. , Be knew that Sir T. Maitland Was the Governor of Malta, and 'First' Comthissionei 'in the lonians but he eonld' not consider those Islands as a British. colony,* they were rather an independent State, to . which we were desirous of giving a Constitution, hold ing military possession of then) until !hut Consti. tutiOn SvaS perfect. Our e • connection with 'hens' 'was rather politicallinni colonial,aild they Seemo pi tattier to belong to the lot eig,n department than any 'other. . These auggestions were, however,, subject to future correction ; all he desired was • urr intrirr, Lords Chichester, Spencer, trod others, might be examined, and be was • convinced that a 'body - of evidence would be thence' obtained, to prove the iuutility of the office Of Third Secretary of State. Some ge ner.il argumects would be advanced against tilk Proposition, rounded on the iejury that migbt result limit diminishing too mach the intlaeoce the Crriwn ; but, as a proof of the manner in which the influence of the Crown,ilati of late years creOed, he instanced the Board of Control, which originally consisted, as constituted by Mr,Dundas, of the Secretary of the Navy, and two young Gen.' thanvn, his assistants, who all gave their labour for nothing. In a short time, however, the Se cretary took' 2,000/, a year to himself, and the two young Gentlemen 1,5001. a year each. The office soon grew up in such a manner, that the Secretary, now become President, took 5,0001. a year ; and the Board has increased .so rapidly, that it now sends # crop of four Members to the H ouse o f Commoris. He did not object to per sons holding several 'Offices, while they did not enjoy several salaries; and such indeed had been th e principle which had been amed on in for• mer times. Thus Lord Grenville was at the same tune First Lord , of the Treasury, and Ail. ditor of the Exthetitter; hot be received only the salary of one place. LE )rd Melville was