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. . many'things relative to the state cf Europe,-and to the situation of this Country,..which would bear on this question, and Which could he lcrlown much better by the Government here . than by the vernors of the West India Islands. As to the ad , . vice which his Learned Friend bad given to 'D -li= nisters, who knew so well what they were to do, ,he left them to take the benefit of it : he left them also to profit by the instru&ions of Right Hon. Gentleman of great experience (Mr. Rose), who al . *ay's gave most salutary.advice upon 'the purest public principles, without any . personal considera tions; and withontany wish to oppose Ministers far ther than his notions of duty- compelled him. It was certainly very good and condescending, in him to give Ministers the benefit of his great experience, Ind to desire to relieve them from the cares of Go vernment; for Certainly, after having been in, office . twenty-two ,years, he had in some measure ac quired a sort of right to retain it for ten or twelve years more at least ; and, to be sure, it was very great presumption in inexperienced people, who had been only four months in office, to take matters out of his. bands. Under these circumstances, his ad vice ought, no doubt, to be listened to with all the attention which it deserved. Mr. CAANING observed, that the' Learned Gen tleman who had just sat down had hinted, that the 'advice given by his Right. Hon. Friend had pro ceeded from no good-will to His Majesty's Mi nisters. Forhis , part he thought it suffiCient, in giving such advice, he had. the good Of his Country, and not the good .of Ministers, at heart. •As :to , the measure now bethre the House, he 'thought it one of the most important that had ever been agi— tated ; not only with regard to the praelice which would be founded upon it, but also with regard to .the political principles which it involved. He had heard' of measures where, perhaps, the necessity might be - overbalanced by the mischiefs which they Might occasion ; but he had never till now heard Of a measure where the mischiefs were great, and where there existed no necessity - at all. If the ob ject of the Bill had been to prevent the supply from America, he could have understood it, .and, then, perhaps/he should not have been inclined to oppose it. But the interests of the West. Indies he Nvould here put entirely out of the question, as these had been sufficiently taken care of before, and this cir cumstance proved' that there was no necessity for this:BilL • But, if you changed the, system, and sanEtiened by a previous Law what had been before only'sanationed by a subsequent At of Indemnity; then the onus. of proving the necessity for the change lay with you. His Learned Friend had -admitted , the general truth—that it was improper to have Laws whiCh must be. violated ; and the Learned. Gentleman opposite. had triumphed in this admis sion ; and said that„he, by this, had given his opi nion' in favour of the principle of the present Bill. 'Quite - the contrary ; for 'the concjusion to be drawn from this admission was, that there - ought to be an • inquiry, and that some permanent measure ought' to be adopted.. The Ship-owners might be ex - omitted,. ;and they. might have-an opportunity thus • of shewing whether they could regularly supply the Colonies ; and some permanent system ought to be formed upon - the 'foundation. of this examination► . -BO then it was said that.GOvernoient would alwayS be enabled to attend to the interests of the Ship oWners ; and that they could do so much more ef feaually than could be done while things remained on 7 their present footing... Fine words—by which, however, nobody could be deluded. They refused to hear them now when they had sufficient leisure fr;r it, and would only hear thern ata moment when the-Colonies might be in danger, and when there could: be no time to make the; necessary inyestiga tion.. Even Ministers themselVes could not believe that this could be done, and it was only started in order to get rid of the present pressure. They said that they removed the Tribunal, because• at present it cOuld only judge from local circumstances: This was, in fact, the only proper mode ofiudging ; and, there ' fore, the argument Of MiniSters was absurd oil the face of it ; and he was, therefore; surprised that the , Hon. Alderman (Prinsep), over the way/could be brought . to any compromise on : this subject. So much for the shipping interest ; 'but then he was. not there to argue the ease of any body of men ; and therefOre he Must say, that'the Ship-owners .would by this Bill be examined only - where they would be very incompetent witnesses. If they were to be examined at present; and 'Saw the necessities • the Colonies, then they could find means to meet these necessities ; but all their enterprize,, and. their hopes and . . exertions wpld be weakened' and para lized hy . this Bill, Government would hear of a scarcity in the West Indies, and then. they would, .send for the. Ship• 7 oWners. • The Ship-owners could know nothing about the matter, and they must come there with a natural bias to their own interests, which . must iender their evidence exceedingly w4s. this a way in Which - the House of Commons was to intiirm itself upon 4 great measure or this sort,,and to forth its opinion, if it could forth any ‘ opinion different froth that of the great and wise men on the other' side ? But it was said, that the -great . objea of a I. o gislative - Body ought to be, to prevent • there' being any law which must be violated, and at preSent Great Britain, as had been observed by the Learned Gentleman who spoke last; could not . , now' supply her Colonies; and he seetned 'to triumph in this. - Helhought - it had been agreed on all hands, that it was exiretriely desirable that Britain' should supply her- -Colonies. But no, said the LeatnedGentlemani you cannot supply your Colo nies; 7 -hear, Britons - (cried, he), rejoice, huzza,- you can nd longer 'supply your Colonies ! Jo hear an Atforney-eeneral. of Great Britain, who had him self been for some. time in the West Indies, triumph in thii manner, was a most. extraordinary thing. Then he employed a great deal of ineffeaual sarcasm - against his Right Ron.. Friend near. He (Mr. Canning) contended that hiS Right Hon. Friend. had done something. while :he was in that Office (Prelident of the Board - 'of Trade), that 'naturally called his attention. to thiS.subjea. hfid made Some preparations for changing the system, and had been supported by the Hon-, Magistrate behind him, (Mr. Price) who had also come -in for a share of the sarcasm. The Learned '.Gentleman, therefore, had certainly shewn -a- considerable pcopensity to mis take. He might perhaps: spew very good reasons for this Bill, to the great and comprehensive minds of the Ministers, .who were above attending - to the little. details of- business, and the little interests of their Country !--But he forgot that he was now endeavouring,..tio .tiersnade tarliatent. Vie (Mr. • Cariniug) did not Mean to say, however, that there ought 'to be no revision of the Navigation Laws.-- But this was n t :what the . Ministers_wanted. The Learned Gentleman' told us that the. object was to take, the discretion out 'of the * hands of the low and id:significant Governors(" .21 , 0, No, NO !"),--he thought he had said so—and to place it in these great and wise. Ministers., Now . as the- case stood At- present, the discretion was lodged in the Gover nors, and the manner of. their exercising it•was re viewed annually by Parliament asp matter of Course ; tint miw it was proposed to take it from those who, from their lodal knowledge, must be. the fittest to exercise it, and to place it'-where there would be a great responsibility. But really; if any one could be' deluded by all this, the paper on the table (Mr. Windhath's Instrntion) must be sufficient to shew, even to him, how this discretion would be exer cised. These instrualions had been sent to the Governors of the West- India Islands, upon the faith that this Bill would pass, with a sweeping suSpen- Sion of the Navigation Laws during the War, and with a promise that Ministers would : take care that they should have the. usual indemnity. 7 -This was . a most unjustifiable exerciseof authority, and an oat ' rage on Parliament, whose judgment was here pre viously- presumed.- But, after all, he contended that the discretion must-remain with the Governors; for suppose that a prohibit ion should come out while a Governor saw that the inhabitants must starve un-" less the ports were opened, he must, at all hazards, open them in such a case,—but then he would do it. under a tremendous and unfair responsibility. But' the truth was, that Ministers were for abrOgating, all the discretion of Governors by opening the ports &ring the whole War. - How differently did they reason here frOm what they did with regard to limited service :,%i/hen it was said that it ought to continue., at least in the Colonies, during the War— Government, they said, would provide for all these casu4ties ; but here' there was a suspension at .once during the war, on the grounds that the necessities of the Cblonies_aist be supplied. .But the great consideration Was 'that which had been started by his-Learned Friend (Mr. Percival), and to which •no. answer had been given. While there was such a ferment in America against this Country, you gave them to understand that you could not do without them. The Americans, he said, carried to the Co lonies a variety of-rnanufaaured articles besides pro visions, stich as hats; &hulks,: leather, &c. and as they did it before without law, it maybe easily con ceived that they would do it much mare readily • when they had the ,sanction .of law. Now, he asked the Right Hon. Secrelary of . .State (Mr. Fox), whe ther. he was so tired of the tone which hactgained him so much deserved popularity, that'he was .now disposed to abandon, it ? For in the event of a Treaty. he might be certain that this would be considered as a concession, whateVer might be' said to the con trary.. If.a concession was intended to be made to.. America, a worse moment than the present could not be chosen for it, and you .. were; in fact, laying the grounds, of future quarrels with that Country to which the concession was made. A 'disposition bn the part of France to meddle with our internal re gulations had excited the greatest indignation in this Country,, and yet France had never presumed tO say' any thing about the repeal Of our Navigation Laws.. We ought not now to du any thing that had the appearance of concession. He would have Oppoed this measure even on that grotind,if it had beenin - other,respe6ts harmleSs: But the fact was that in every point of view it was not only useless,, but in the highest -degree impolitic 2nd mischievous. Dr. LAIVRENCE observed, that the Gentle men who said any. thing against this Bill; seemed to found their opinions entirely on a 'fallacy ; they spoke as if they considered that a System; which, in fad,' was nothing more than a provisional regula tion for the ben* of out shipping . , and for' the occasional supply of our colbnies. These' Gentle men, however," who were SO extremely tender about - Abe Navigation La ws;,* and Who Were'sO consiiintly in the. habit of extolling the great Virtties of that Right. Hon. , Ge,ntletrran (Mr. who is now no , more, did not seem recolle& any thing about- the Dutch Proper l y At that was passed during the Ad 'ministration of that Gentleman.. When it was appre, hended that Holland WaSaboUtto be an nexed toFrance, at first an Order. in CoUncil was passed, permitting thelanding of,Dutch Property in this Country from, neutral Wessels. This praaice was afterwards, by a.positive law, extended, and was in that extended state, continued for, Upwalds . of four years, to 'the total ruin of. our N#igation' Laws. ' Let . those Gentlemen, then triumph 'in their long • experitmce in that: Administration ; but let them not at the same time iitTe - a a tenderness about our Navigation La ws. Sir JOHN NEtPPQRT adverted to what passed 'relative. to- the Provision Trade of Ireland a flaw years back. Upon some remonstrance being made as to some . cireurntanees tespeting that Trade, with:the West Indiehi- the. Irish, Traders) were allowed to continue their traffic, .proVided they would under take the entire supply of our Colonies in the West Indies: They. kti,ew,very well that they had enough of provisions. in Ireland t 9 support the West Indies, but they found that by a sudden supply pouring in from Ante:lea hut a few days before the arrival of their Fleet; perhaps-, some very deserving indivi duals were ruined. lithe order forgranting the inter course With America had 'originated here that would - not have been the, case, as either GoVernment would have knOviti':' that' a Fleet was: thrown in its way for the supply of .those islands, or else the Ttade might haste been apprized 'of the fad, that some of out Colonies Were.in watt of a speedy supply, and the fleet would have been dispatched with the pro-.. visions a few-days sooner than it otherwise had been sent out. ,- - ror The' same reasons the Ship-owners of England 7 ouglii'to have been the warmest advo cates of this Bill, as by it the trade would be regu lated by the Guverninent at home; and Would nor be subjeet to the , capriee of any single Governor of the IslandS,. who was in 'general influenced in a , great, degree by the -Planters. The House divided, and the numbers were— For the :Motion - 112 Against it. - - 54 Majority - . - -58 . After which tie fill was read a .second time, and ordered to committed on Friday next.. The other Orders of the Day were postponed, and the Houie „adjourned'at /tad-past Eleven o'clock. „ Ait a tv . t Waterford. Du Gottenbuigh, i Lisbon, t VyNatertiad PRICE -0F• STOCKS Tttts'DA•Y AT T%VE.1..14E o'cLoCK. Red. Ann. . . 61* Ornnium = - - - 41 T H 12 1 . S.O N. SOLEM QUI DlCtfit FAISUM ACIDEAT LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JVNE- -18, 'lBO6. TIM 'report of a Negotiation tier Peace was yes terday, circulated with great. confidence; and. the tocks remained very nearly as high as the,y were On Monday. The,retura of Lord YARMOUTH to Paris is relied upon by those who contend that a Negotiation has actually commenced, as a 'decisive proof of that fael. It is, we believe, true, that Lord YARMOUTH was the bearer of some prOpositions from the French G6Vernment, but it is probable that it re lated merely to the ExchangeofPrisoners,a snhje6t' which it is well known has been for some time past in discussion between the two Countries.— , But we do not see , why the return of 'Lo'rd YAR-. MOUTH to France is • to be considered :as con elusive , evidence that a Negotiation for the re storation of Peace has commenced. If the answer transmitted by the British 'Goveiiiment was in writ ing, it certainly could not be necessary to send . a person . of Lord YARMOUTH'S rank merely as the bearer of • dispatch: on the other 'hand, from his Lordship's, want of experience in Diplomatic affairs, it is not prObable that.he would be sele6ted for the purpose of negotiating with the Frenth Government npona subjeaOf such importance as the restoration of; Peace. We beg, however, not to be understood as .giVing any positive . opinion upon-the subje&, nor as asserting that a Negotiation may not take place. The mission of M. D'Otlßßir; to Paris may to some propositions of a pacific tendency ,between Russia and France, in which, of course, Great Britain', would be included; and if it be true, as 'stated in the Dutch' Papers, that COUni HARDRIsthERG is about to come to this'Country upon a special_ mission frOm the PrnSsian Government, that circurnstance would tend,, in a certain degree, to' confirm the opi nion of those who look for the speedy restoration of Peace. It cannot, however, be. necessary to observe, that a Negotiation for Peace by no means implieS that a Peace must in 'consequence be concluded; and ibough the French Government may be willing ,to negotiate, we have seen nothing • 'in their conduel or language of : late which shews . that they really entertain pacific sentiments towards • this Country. .. .Monday evening His IVlAJgs.TY . .an&the P.RINT CESSES, accompanied by the Earl of.UxBRIDGE and others, walked.on Windsor Terrace. Yesterday. morning Hts .MAJEsTy.,..atid the no N 7. CESSES AUGUSTA, SOPHIA, and 'AtaELtA, rode on. horsebrck. HER M,Astsyy;ancl the other Pa INCESSES took an-aiting to Frogunore. Viscount Hoi,vrcic is about to augment the out pension list of Greetrwich Hospital' from 2h• to 41. a year to every common seaman ; and; at the same time, •to admit co . superannuated Captains; and 'Lieutenants on an out-pension list of the said Hos pital--the whole to be prided for out of a certain portion of all-prize-money made by hayal captures. .On Friday a Council Was held at gr.. Secretary Fox's Office, at which nearly the whole of the Ca binet Ministers were preent ; and, On . Saturday, an other Council was held at the same : place, -which sat upwards of two hours. • '1 here were,present, the LORD CHANCELL-OR, Lord GRENVILLE, .arls SPEN CER and MOIRA, ViCOI.IIItSSIDMOUTH. and . HOWICK, Mr. Fox, Mr. WINPHA M., and ,Lord H. PETTY. At-the rising of the Council, Mr. COUR VOISIER left town with Dispatches' fdr Mr..ADAIE. Accounts have been received at St. Helena, by an American Vessel which, touched there prior 'to the sailing of the last Fleet from that. island, that two French Ships of. the LIIIQ and a Frigate • had sailed from the Phillippines, with a view, it was supposed, of joining Admiral fLutTsirtc',E in the Straits of Sunda. By the Dipatches just forwarded to India, orders are given for every possible reduaion of expences in the various departments of that Government. •., ,Sir ARTHUR, - WELLESLEY has got the command of the Troops at liastingS.! At the Dinner given on Monday after the ReVieW of the Royal Corps of Artillery at Woolwich, Earl MOIRA gave the following Toasf, whiCh was re ceived with the warmest applause i.)y all the Com pany : • , . , Lieut _General the Earl ut . o H -r ‘44m, the late Master " General 'of the Ordnance, to whoseJalents the Military " World were indebted fur the gratifying exhibition of that " day.".• • • The g* India Docks, long fitting at Blackwall, Will be opened with a grand Entertainment on the 2d of Ally. The Members of Adminioration, the Foreign Minister's l- 'and a large party of - Nobility and Gentry, with the- Members the Corporation of London, are invited tt.)• partake of the Entertain- Ment at the Docks, and a SiiiSsequ'ent one in the afternopn at the Londpn Tavern. DAv in PIKE WATTS, Esq. Citizen ana Vintner, '`)TM. CC/LES, Es 9. ¶ Citizen 'and Wheelwright, and JOHN APTAG9•ART,.Esq: Citizen arid Draper, thl . ee of the persons nominated at the lastOurt'of men for the office of Sheriffs•of LondOn and Middle sex, have eaitliof them paid - Into the Chamber the title of 4001. and_ 120 marks_ to be excused -and dis charged troni the said norninatiOn..Tho.ElMion for Sheriffs, 3t..u.ikes....platO at the COmmoit on Tat.'sday Midsurniner-Riy: • HO NITQ.N ELECTION.—At - the clOse of the poll on Saturday evening, 'the majority in' favour of Mr. NA) A L.. N-i WS, PLYMOUTH, the 'Me de Parisi of 1 - 0 guns; Dragon, of 80 guns, and 'Diamond Fri gate, from the Channel E eet. ''The Ville , d'e • Paris is- to, be taken into Dock to undergo a thorouglt repair: The Diitmond Frigate is expeaed to sail this eveTi ing or to-morrow morning - for the-Channel Fleet. Vice-Admiral, Sir CHARLES COTTON goes out in be: in order too - hoist his Flag on board one Of the Ships of the 'Fleet,. Arrived the Yoz/ng- RoscitA Privateer, of London ; she has detained a Meeklenburgh Vessel from Ba tavia, Paden with a valuable dargo, whose arrival ib hourly expected. . , . • PNITSMOUTH;jUNE 17.—Arrired the Devasfrz lion Boplti,..with a cetivoy of Transpotts,'&c. from the Do'wn3. Sailed the . Size/drake Sloop of •War, and the Sprightly Gun,brig, on a Cruize. TUN E 17 .--The Lady Fiancd Packet, Capt. FLYa, and the Prince of IVales, Captain A. IDEAN'E, arrived last ,night froin Gottenburgh, each with a Mail. • - The Neutral Ship Hercules, Capt. Gai;w; of and for. Bremen, with a cargo from Charlestown, de tained by the Aigressor Uttn-brig, is released, and will proceed immediately for Bremen. Ity a perSon'lately from Holland we are inforaf= ed, that there are ready for sea, lying in the Roads at Helvoetsluys-, a Ship of gb gnus and two Pric. -gates; that a Frigate in Dock there, repairin an.l coppering ; and further;'that two Frigates wia soon be ready to launch at Rotterdam. SHEERNESS { JUNE 17.—Apived yesterday !i-• tht.. NOTE!, and sailed again immediately,' the Lyra'T,:--1- der, from Shields, with volunteers and impressed treti for the Fleet ; a'so the tic/id Tender, from Lyilri, with ditto, and twenty,-One recruits for the Royal Marines. The Stately, of 64 gum, was paid up to six months, and sailed -for Yarmouth. Tilts. ,L7rct* Boinb is expeged to sail thi3 day with a'large Fleet of Merchantmen for the Baltic. . DOVER, JUNE 17.—Arrived the Ship Industry, of NeVii York, - from . Amsterdam, for Norfolk in Vir: gitua. • , . The. Brig Sally, of and from Newbury Port, ELI PHALETI CHASE, Master, came in for orders. DEAL, JUYE 1 7 .--Arrived - the Monkey and Fear less, from the ..Tore ; and the Basilisk and Desperate, from off Boulogne. Sailed the Blanche on a cruize in the North Sea; and 'the Monkey, Fearless, and Basilisk, off Bou:: DISTRIBUTION OF PRIZE-MONI-Y • To the Officers and Crew Of His Majebty'S Ship Dragor; for the Capture of the French Ship Meloinane, .on the rstlt tune; (803, and the Head-money ot the French Corvette Co.: londie, captured on the 18th tune,* 1803, on board. the Dra,;,..n. 'at i'ljwouth, on the Both inst. and to' .. 1 ) (!wers•ot on tate yth July, at No. .15, Throginorton-street. • • BOSTON, :MAY 'letter received , in town froni a Gentleman at Arulla, on the Spanish Main, cf April 15th, says, " Two ,days ,ago the .American Ship Leander, Capt.' LEwrs, of 10 guns, two Schooners; arKitwol'eahrs, having op hoard ,‘..70 Men, under the command of Generai'MmANDA, and 28 Ofticers, British and Americans ; arrived her e on the way to Caraccas, Laguira, &e to revolutionize all the Coast from the. Orinoco tb I 4 orto' This Ship has given, Mitch alarm here ; tiie Coast is in an uproar, 'as he is well known to have a strongspartyfrOmOrinoc.i , down garyea t ybo: they will sail to-morro w : th e y seem confident of success; and only carry out a Stall' Establishment for ; the COunnander in Chief. This coast:is to, form air independent and great nation, having the rainbow and sun fora standard (formerly the flag of the Incas *Of ?ex They have laid o ; t a _•, • • n,embargo since they cane' here, two days ago, and which is to last eight days after they sail."—ln i post script of the qth, the writer say 4, ." We shall sail this afternoon in company with this expedition." A letter from Puhlin.says, that an a6tiOn for da mages laid at 10,0001. has been 'brought against a dashing Baronet, .for criminal conversation with the Lady of a Nobte Lord. • . Great change-slit seems are to take place in the Operas House. - Mrs. BII,LING.TOy'S engagement is at art end. OR A SSINI,, with her pathetic graces, re turns to the Continent; and DESHAYES and his wife also, with moving powers of a different kind, ate' taking steps for their departure. Dr. FISHER, once well-known In. this Country; "and formerly a Proprietor of Covent Garden Theatre, died a slum time ago in Ireland. He married STO; RACE many years ago in Vienna, but a disagree ment happening very soon after the nuptial core-• . mony; they separated, and the Lady has ever since resumed her - 711(liti c ti -name. PIO CIANCIigrIINI," a boy only six years old, has made his appearance at the Theatre of the Emprt4s, at. Paris, as a first-rate musician, Yesterday morning, .the 17th, inst. at his housein Park-street, Grosvenor-squqre, the Lady of the Hon. WILLIAM HENRY GARDNER was delivered of a Daughter. • The Rev. WHITFELD CURTEI s;:A. NI. of Trinity College, Cambridge, is instituted by the Lord Bishop of CHICHESTER ,to. the ReOory and Vicarage of Ea: - 'wash, in the County of Sussex. Coax-ExctiArtok; JUNE 18.—At the new Mar ket to-day there were scarce any fresh arrivals of Grain • in general, 'and hardly any buyers.;• Wheat, for samples of th 6 best ctuality, scarcely supports ltist ,prices---inferior co tonnes almost unsaleable ; very feW sales' are made "of•akticlo,in..general : previous to the. close of Monday's - Market fine Flour fell ss. • per sack, and thote'on'i-nlerior, much of which is, out Of couditi'on. •'! ' Early on WedneSday Morning the city of Worces ter was visited ‘by a heavy storm of thunder, light ning, hail, and rain the thunder rolled in awful and tremendous: peals, accOinpanied:with the most vivid flashes of lightning.- In the rieighhourhood of West . - bury,. Shropshire, some cattle were struck dead the same Morning; by the lightning ;. and at Chun, the hail-StoneS which fell were almost .one inch and a half in circumference . ... The storm likewise raged with awfUl' violence at Hereford, and the. neig4 bowhoOd. I ~,~1 r~-