The Sun. — London, England, 1857-08-15 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS — YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at 5 o'clock. re sented a petition from a Lord ST. LEON A.RDS p that person co mplaining 1833 was still undeciaelt which was instituted in ta a suit The LORD CHANCELLOR said he was at present unacquainted with the suit referred to, but he would snake inquiry into the subject. The noble and learned lord remarked that suits were very frequently allowed to sleep without the suitors taking steps to bring them before the court. Lord ST. LEONARDS, after a few observations on the above petition, called attention to the present de fective state of the law of domicile. Lord CAMPBELL said that legislation was much required on this subject. He had been studying the law of domicile for the last 40 years, and he did not even now know at present where he was domiciled. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the difficulty was with respect to the question of fact not of law. The subject was a very difficult one, and would require much consideration. THE EMBODIMENT OF THE MILITIA. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said it was to be regretted that the short time allowed for asking questions should be occupied with a debate on the law of domicile. (Hear, hear.) The question he wished to ask was one of the greatest interest, and therefore he thought that be had better avail himself of the present moment to ask the noble lord the Secretary for War what application he intended to make of the very inade quate sum of 200,0001. for the embodiment of the militia 1 He of course had no means of getting official information, but he bad taken trouble to get correct information on the subject he was about to bring under the consideration of their lordships' house. He assumed that 18 battalions bad either been sent or had been ordered to India ' • that the five regiments that had been sent to China had had their destination changed, that the five regiments which stood next for foreign service bad been warned, that two regiments would leave the Cape and proceed to India, and that the 37th Regi ment would be sent thither from Ceylon. At present there were 22 battalions in India, and consequently when the reinforcements were all sentout there would be 52 bat talions of infantry, a larger force than was in the Crimea. But when we had 50 battalions in the Crimea, what was our position at home ? We were reduced to 11 batta lions, but at the same time we had an effective militia force of 66,000. Seventeen regiments were employed in the Mediterranean garrison, and he assumed that the force of these regiments amounted to 11,000. We had now at home eleven battalions, and it was understood that three other regiments had been ordered home. We should, therefore, have twenty-one battalions at home, while during the Crimean war we had but 11. He thought the 200,0001, would only enable the Government to embody 9,000 men for six months, and therefore taking into consideration the loss of the ser vice of 55,000 militiamen there would altogether be a loss of the services of 38,000 less of armed men in the country than we had during the Crimean war. He looked ' upon the present war as of more importance than that which occurred in the Crimea. Considering the nature of the climate of India and the casualties which always took place in operating against an enemy, he was of opinion that this country would require to raise 15,360 recruits annually to main tain the force in India in an efficient state. He himself thought that the whole of the militia should be embodied, and he was informed that the only additional expense would be half a million sterling. Lord PAN MURE said it was contemplated to em ploy the 200,0001. for the embodiment of 10,000 of the militia between this and March 25. Ii it should become necessary to embody the whole of the militia, circum stances would occur which would render it necessary to summon Parliament. It was contemplated to employ the militia in aid of garrisons which had been left by the troops sent to India. He did not wish to underrate the evils that had occurred in India, but he did not share in the alarm which was experienced. They had despatched, or would despach, almost immediately, armies of all arms to the amount of 31,000 men, which would include no recruits, but all formed troops, and would arrive at the season when operations could be immediate, cen stant, and without delay. He concurr d in the necessity of keeping up the complements of regiments at home and abroad, and ag reed that 15, 000 men per annum would be required for India. Allowing 5,000 for the same Fur pose at home, that would make 20,000 men a-year ; but he thought it would quite destroy the spirit of the mili is if they were to be told that the only thing it was good for was, to form a sort of recruiting depot. The militia was for the defence of the country at home, and if every soldier had been drafted from this country in the late war, the militia would have sufficed for the defence of the country. Ho did not think that any nation was likely from jealousy wantonly to seek a quarrel with us because we had our hands fell in India ; but if, by any of those circumstances which the wisdom and prescience of nations cannot forsee, we should be involved in war, Parliament would be called together, and he had no fear that we should not be able to provide for our national defence. Recruiting was going on very actively, and as the harvest would shortly be over, he had no doubt that numbers would then flock to our standard. Without re corting to Cravernmotib head pc.,oor, if necessary, to resort to the ballot for the militia— which they would not do unless that it became abso lutely necessary. The ballot was practically a poll tax, which in many cases amounted to 501., that sum being frequently paid for a substitute. In respect to the news from India, he reminded them that rumours which were sometimes spread frequently turned out to be unfounded. Lord CLANRICARDE said we were not at war. We were interfering in a riot. We had got a mutiny, and our first duty was to quell that mutiny. Lord GRANVILLE said the difficulty of the ques tion would not be removed by legislation. He thought the news was as favourable as could be expected. Bom bay and Madras remained firm. After a few words from Lord CLA.NRICARDE, the subject dropped. The Lunatics (Scotland) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Burial Act was reconsidered as to amendments. The Bankruptcy and Insolvency Bills were read a third time. The amendments in the Married Women Reversion ary Interest Bill were agreed to. The New Z ;eland Bills were read a third time and passed. The Ecclesiastical Commission Bill was read a second time, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YEsTEnDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the Mayor's Court of the City of London Bill and the Newry and Enniskillen Railway Bid were considered and agreed to. DIVORCE AND ?MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL. The house went into committee on this bill, resuming the considevat;on of clause 25. Lord JOHN MANNERS moved to insert the words, or of adultery preceded or followed by the commission of a crime for which the husband ie sentenced to penal servitude." Sir G. GREY complained that no notice had been given of the amendment, which involved an entirely new principle, which there had been no time to consider. Under these circumstances he trusted that the committee would not sanw.ion the amendment. Mr. HENLEY thought that what the noble lord in tended to convey was that desertion being now admitted one of the adjuncts of adultery for which divorce might be granted, absence under the sentence of a Court, con joined with the same circumstances of adultery, should also be taken as a ground for divorce. The words would, no doubt, require very careful and close conside ration. For example, if a woman had condoned the offence of adultery on the part of the husband, she ought not to possess the right to set up the case afresh. Mr. GLADSTONE concurred with the Home Secre tary that the noble lord should take time to consider the matter, and that if he thought a discussion upon the question advisable, it should take place upon the re port. _ _ _ Lord LOVAINE thought that divorces should be granted in cases of adultery followed by hopeless lunacy. He recommended the noble lord to postpone his amend ment for further consideration. Mr. HOPE opposed the amendment, and cited the law of Sweden in confirmation of the undesirability of giving legal effect to such a provision as that recom mended by the noble lord. Mr. HEATFICOTE supported the clause. Mr. MALINS thought that there should be no divorce unless there was an actual abandonment with intention, in consequence ofadulterous connection. He could not support the amendment, even if it were post poned for future contideration. Mr. DE VERE considered that the bill was not only not founded upon religious sanctions, but that, on the obligation, t . Lwas entirely at variance with all religiou s ,otl•ytth r egar d t o th e amen d men t o f th e no bl e lord, h e Lord ' , T . l l i d a. feel i it his duty to opp ose it. NERS said he had no time to give notice of th e clause by placing it on the p a p er . Th e government were member s to press the bill night and day, that me S ta u t er. ) beyond their noses. 4had not time to look an inch Mr. NE WDEGATE thesesled that the bill was un wortky of the learning 0 1 be its authors. who were supposed to After some further discussion the amendment ro posed by Lord John Manners was withdrawn, Mr. STAPLE FON mo v ed a n a.tnendn aer p t o the effect that when a woman had obtained a decre e g a husband for the restitution of conjugal rights a , a Z t t ' e e n r adultery was committed by the husband, that should be a sufficient ground of divorce a vinculo, Sir G. GREY opposed the amendment, of which, h e ' said, he did not see the force, and eventually it w as withdrawn. No other amendments being proposed, the question was put that clause 25 should stand part of the question. Mr. GLADSTONE intimated that although he would not himself move its omission, he should be prepared to support any other member who might do so, in order that the opinion of the house upon the principlo of the bill might be once more recorded. He then vindicated the conduct of the opponents of the bill from the charge of obstruction, and expressed his hope that, as the most difficult clause of the bill had been got over, more rapid progress might be made with the remainder until they got to clause 53, which they would all wish to have settled. Lord PALIVIERSTON accepted the declaration just made with great pleasure, and disclaimed all wish to 06, hurry the bill iuiproperly through its stages. Atter some remarks fr om Lord John Russell, Mr. Na' rHE SUN, LON DON, SATURDAY EV ENING, AUGUST 15, 1857 that river to the Persian Gulf, and £0 on to India, a I considerably increased facility in the conduct of our com mercial and political intercourse with that empire must be the result. (hear.) We should also have the advan tage of any alternate route in competition with the line of railway from Alexandria to Cairo, thence to Suez, and down by the Red Sea, I am not, however, by any means sure that the line in which the hon. gentleman seems to take so great an interest is that which, if were about to enter upon any project of the kind, the Government would most desire to see adopted ; because, if railway communication should be established—as I have no doubt it will at no distanf period be—with Constanti nople, and if a line should be constructed from the other side of the Bosphorus to the Persian Gulf, it is perfectly plain a much shorter and better means of communi cation with India would be secured than that which the hon. gentleman proposes, and which would involve a sea passage either from Marseilles, Toulon, or Trieste, to the further end of the Mediterranean. ([fear, hear.) All these project', however, are, in my opinion, schemes in reference to which her Majesty's Government ought to be deliberate spectators. I entirely concur with my right hon. friend the member for the University of Ox ford in the sentiments to which he gave expression in that portion of his speech in which he so well and so ably pointed out the inexpediency of the Government of this country meddling directly in enterprises such as that to which our attention has this evening been drawn, and which are to be carried into execution in a foreign State. My right hon. friend dwelt very forcibly on the political consequences which would be likely to result from a direct connection with such schemes, and, upon the grounds to which he has adverted, her Majesty's Minis ters would be indisposed to mix themselves up with pro. . jects of the nature of that which is now under discus. relative to,,the introduction of this important subject to the attention of the house at the end of the session, said be thoughtthat those who took an interest in the prc jest for the establishment of a railway through the Euphrates Valley had made a judicious choice. The hon. gentleman who had seconded the motion had stated the question as though that house was to give to the subject money or money's wortb, and that the only question to be further considered was, to which of the two schemes they were to afford assistance. That appeared to him (Mr. Glad• stone) to raise the previous question, and to ask if there were not serious difficulties in the way of entertaining either proposition. He thought the house should regard with some jealousy undertakings of this kind, urged on the attention of Government and the country by hon. members in their places in that house, because however beneficial they might be in a philant'lropic point of view, or in a political point of view, yet they were substantially commercial undertakings, and ought to be left to stand or fall according to their merits as such. (Hear, hear.) He would rather the hon. member (Mr. Estcourt) had asked for a certain amount of cash instead of a guarantee. That be could have understood, but he looked with aversion on guarantees. (Hear, hear.) Both hon. members who hai addressed the house had d welt on the political advantages to be derived from this com munication with India, but the plans were eminent'y commercial, and must be so looked upon. (Hear, hear.) Prudence, however, demanded that they should proceed with caution with reference to our political relation with the East, and the difficulty to him was when they recom mended that the purse of the English people should be bled to find funds for promoting, directly or indirectly, commercial undertakings in foreign countries, that they laid a distinct ground for the political interference of the British Government in the political affairs of those coun tries. (Hear, hear.) He thought they should be guided by those rules in their conduct with reference to the East, and which it should be the study of the Go vernment to maintain ; first, that we should not give a handle to other powers of alleging that we were setting an example of interference with the political or domestic affairs of Turkey ; se condly, that we should endeavour to maintain the union of European opinion on eastern affairs ; and thirdly, that England should not repose entire confidence on re mote interventions to prevent the aggressions of Russia on Turkey, but endeavour to raise up living barriers between Constantinople and Russia. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman having expressed an opinion that if practicable the Suez canal project would be of great advantage if carried out, asked the noble lord at the head of the Government if be was prepared to lay on the table of the house authentic information relative to the Principalities about which the people of this country felt so much interest and anxiety. He confessed that since he had given notice of his intention to ask the question he had found that a similar question was put aid answered last night in the other house. His apology for it must be that owing to the pressure of Parliamen tary duties he was prevented this morning from attend ing the part of the usual daily clubs of man—or he might say the whole duty of man—that of reading the daily journals—(laughter)—and consequently that he was ignorant of that fact. It was desirable that authentic information should bo supplied, for failing that the people were obliged to have recourse to what they must have looked upon as reliable information. He earnestly hoped that the noble lord would be able shortly to correct the opinion which appeared to be generally entertained respecting the recent proceedings in Moldavia. The right hoe. gentleman proceeded to read several orders and circulars issued to the prefects and officers of Mol davia on the subject of the recent elections in the Prin cipalities. These documents showed violent attempts to interfere with the freedom of eleotion, which, the right hon. member contended, had the effect while uncontra dieted of seriously affecting the character of England, the Government of which ought to have been the parties to quash the elections, and not the absolute Government of France. time ago what was tha opinion of the Government with regard to that scheme. I stated, as I deemed it my dutv to do—speaking as an unprofessional layman—that I consider the scheme physically chirwrical ; that I thought it would not be remunerative cournerci ,11y, and that I also regard-A it as open to strong political objec tions. Those objections have, indeed, been constantly urged at Constantinople within the last 15 years. The main objection upon which our opposition to that scheme was founded was that it was, as we considered, the first step towards the separation of Egypt from Turkey, and that it would thus tend to weaken that Turkish monar- €hy for the maintenance of which Europe took up arms three years ago. My right hen. friend thinks it was very unbecoming of the Eogii : • .h Government to oppose a scheme which was approved by other countries simply because it was considered irjurious to British interests. Now, I must really beg to disFent from that principle. It seems to me that if the British Government are of opinion that any scheme is injurious to British interests it is their duty to oppose it, however much their opposi tion to such scheme may thwart the political or coomer cial wishes of any other country. The first duty of a Government is to look to the interests of the country ; and if those interests are in conflict with any scheme which is proposed they would be neglecting their duty if they sacrificed the interests of England for the purpose of accommodating themselves to the wishes or fancies of any other Power. The strong ground and the only ground upon which we have represented to the Government of Turkey the inexpediency of concurring in the plan is not the injury of England, but of Turkey—the danger with which it would be attended to the integrity of the Turkish empire. Therefore, when the apostle of the Sues canal is preaching all over England in order to in. duce English capitalists to give him those means which he is unable to obtain from the rest of the world, for the purpose of constructing this canal, it does not seem to me that I took an improper course in explaining to British capitalists that in affording monoy for the con struction of such a work they would be aiding a scheme which was fraught with injury to the interests of Eng land herself. (Hear, bear ) SARDINIAN MEDALS. sloe. To pursue a different policy would indeed be to take a course at variance with that which has in similar cages beet' adopted. Applications were made, for in. stance, to the English Government upon the part of our West Indian colonies of Demerara and of our North American provinces for pecuniary assistance, and with those applications the Government dee•ned it to be their duty to refuse to comply. The only case, I may observe, in which direct pecuniary aid was afforded was that of a great anl important rail way in Ireland, but in that in stance the Exchequer-Bill CAnnaissioners merely ad- Admiral WALCOTT called the attention of the house to the circumstance that the medals bestowed by the King of Sardinia had been awarded to the officers and soldiers of the British army engaged in the Crimean war, on the recommendation of his Royal Highness the Com mander-in-Chief, and that none were awarded to the officers and seamen of the British Naval Brigade, who served and worked side by side in .the trenches with the army during the siege of Sebastopol. He made no coin plaint of any reward bestowed on the army, for the navy, on the contrary, gloried in the triumphs of the army ; but he thought it bard that the men of the Naval Brigade, who had shared in the same privations, and who were distinguished for the devil-may-care manner and rough and ready way in which they surmounted all difficulties, should have been altogether excluded front a share in the Sardinian medals. He could imagine when the floating bridge at Portsmouth brought over from Gosport some soldiers, who would be employed, perhaps, in putting down the atrocities which had occurred in India from the mutiny of the troops, that one sailor might say to another, "Leek at those soldiers, they are good and gallant men, and we grudge them noshing ' • but see, they have got the Sardinian me d a l, an d w hy haven't we got it too ? and that the other might reply, "Those who sit up aloft ought to look down and take care of the fortunes of poor Jack, but they do not." He therefore trusted he should receive such an answer to his statement as would remove a sore from the mind of the men and officers of the Naval Brigade. Mr. OSBORNE was not able to give so satisfactory an answer to the hon. and gallant officer as he could wish, but he could not refrain from paying his tribute of respect to the hon. and gallant officer, who always showed so great and kind a sympathy with the members of his profession. The Board of Admiralty had nothing to do with the distribution "f the medals in question. The matter lay in the deptntment of the Minister for War, and he confessed that it was matter of wonder to him that no medals had been sent to the Admiralty. This he thought must have arisen from some oversight, for the officers and men of the Naval Brigade had de. served well of their country. Some inquiry was now being made into the matter. NETLEY ABBEY. vanced as a loan a certain amount to carry on the con• struction of the necessary works, and security was ob tained by Act of Parliament for the repayment of that sum by means of the rates of the counties through which the railway passed. That the house will see is not an in stance at all applicable to the case in point ; and with reference to the Euphrates Valley Rail way I can only assure my hon. friend who brought forward this ques tion, that, however glad we should be to see that project completed, we cannot hold out the slightest encourage ment that we should be disposed, either directly or indirectly, to advance any money for the attainment of that end. With respect to the question of the establishment of a telegraphic communicatior, I can only say that it is one which appears to me to stand in a light somewhat different from that to which I have just referred. A telegraphic communication ie somewhat similar to that postal communication—to speak in mo dern jargon —which has been established with distant countries beyond the seas. If a telegraphic line were laid down by the Euphrates Valley or by the Red Sea to India, her Majesty's Government would, I think, very wisely and properly, pay for the use of that line. The subject is one open to consideration, and I must say that in my opinion a cotnmunication of that description would be found to be of the utmost importance to the interests of the country. I believe that the company now engaged in establishing the telegraphic line down the Valley of the Euphrates—a company distinct, lam informed, from that which has been alluded to as concerned in the pro ject for a rail way—will succeed in the attempt, and that unless some unexpected difficulties arise, we may look forward to the completion of the telegraphic line in question within a definite period. The accomplishment of that object would no doubt be productive of great advantage, as it would place us in communication with India by the construction of a telegraphic line to Kur rachee. Having said thus much in reference to the pro jects of a railway and a telegraphic line, I may be per mitted to advert to an entirely different topic, to which my right hon. friend the member for the University of Oxford has drawn,our attention—l allude to the proceed• inns which have lately taken place in the Principalities. My right hon. friend has got possession of a pamphlet, of which a copy has been sent to me, but at which I had not tame to look ; and upon the statements made in that pamphlet, grounds his appeal to her Majesty's Govern ment to lay the papers connected with the recent transac tions in the Principalities upon the table of the house. Now, it is my opinion that if all the pamphlets which have been written by well-meaning Moldavians and Wal lachians within the last few years upon questions con nected with the Principalities could. be collected toge ther, they would occupy the greater portion if not the entire of that table, and I cannot help thinking that statements made in publications of that description can scarcely with justice be held to furnish any conclusive reasons upon which to found a claim for the production of a diplomatic correspondence. There may be proper demands upon other grounds ; but I do not think that it fair to make upon the Government a demand for the pro duction of documents founded upon chance statements in pamphlets. I apprehend that my right hon. friend can not have been in the house a few days ago when, in an swer to the right hon. member for Buckinghamshire, I explained the state of affairs with regard to the Moldavian principalities. I will repeat the statement I then made. The treaty of Paris was concluded about a year ago—in April last year, and not 2 years ago, as the right hon, gen tleman stated. [Mr. Gladstono—l beg pardon for com mitting such an error.] The treaty of Paris stipulated that after the limitation of Bessarabia to form part of Moldavia should have been completed, and after the territory so transferred to Moldavia should have been actually hand• ed over to Moldavia, tho Moldavian and Wallaobian principalities should proceed to the election of two repre tative bodies to be called divans ; that these bodies should take into consideration the wants and wishes of the peo ple in regard to the future internal organisation of the principalities ; that during their deliberations there should be in the provinces commissioners represen• ting each of the contracting Powers ; that when the as semblies had considered all the matters submitted to them, and when the commissioners had made their reports upon what they had observed, the determination of the assemblies and the reports of the commissioners should be transmitted to the Congress of Paris, which was to be re-assembled for the purpose of considering the sub ject ; and that then the Congress —in concert with the Sultan, who would be represented in it—should come to an understanding with the States as to what should be the future internal organisation of the two provinces. There was—for reasons of which it is unnecessary fur me to remind the House —great delay in the regulatiox of the Bessarabian provinces. (Hear, hear.) That delay occasioned delay with regard to other matters; and it was not until some little time ago that the firman or decree of the Porte, determining in what manner the elections should take place, was settled in concert by the the repreeentatite s of the six Powers and the represen tatives of the Porte at Co istantinople. That firman was sent to the provinces ; but the provinces differ in some respects with regard to their internal arrangements. The firman was sent to Bucharest, in Wallachia, where the commissioners were stationed, bat it was found not to be clear with respect to certain ,details of application. Reference was made to Constantinople, and on the 30.1 e of May the representatives of the Powers, in concert with the Minister of the Porte, gave answers to the questions which arose upon these doubts, and the answers were sent to Bucharest. The same interpretation of the doubtful points was to be acted upon both in Wallachia and Mol davia in as far as the internal differences of the two prin cipalities rnightadmit. There werestill misunderstandings The Rairnaikan of Moldavia did not think that the doubts which bad been started with regard to Wallachia applied to Moldavia. The elections took place, and then representations were made that from the manner in which the elections had been conducted certain classes who were properly entitled to vote had been excluded from voting. These representations led to discussions at Constantinople. The representatives of four Powers entertained one opinion as to the amount of irregularity ; the representatives of England, Austria, and the Porte took a different view. The representatives of the four Powers called upon the Porte to annul the elections. The Porte declined to do so, not deeming it a matter which the representatives of the four Powers were com petent to decide ; but considering that as the question had been discussed by the six Powers, such an applica tion should proceed from the representatives of all those Powers. Differences arose ; and, as I stated before, the late visit of the Emperor of the French at Osborne, brining the two Governments into personal contact and direct explanation, enabled us to come to an agree ment with the French Government that we would unite with France—and we trusted Austria would do so also —to remove all suspicion of irregularity with regard to the elections, and that we would represent to the Sultan that it was for his own interest that there should be no imputation whatever as to the constitution of the body whose wishes were to be taken into consideration at the Congress of Paris. That matter, therefore, I now consider as settled, especially as we have reason to know that the Government of Austria is wiling to take the same course which we have adopted. (Cheers.) My right hon. friend has amused the house by reading pas. sages describing the different irregularities which took place at the elections. Those statements may or may not be true ; and it is very well for us, who have determined—especially in the case of the last general election—to have our elections carried on in a manner pretty free from imputation—(a laugh)—to think it ex traordinary that other countries do not conduct the elec tion of representative bodies with equal regularity ; but when we recollect that these Moldavians and Walla c authoritiesh ians are totally wish t ounusedattain toon one such result,pr o proceedings,—that e h d il i e n gos.at,ht—eir,tshtiaet partiesthe a re desire anoth er —th a t the political questions debated with the utmost vehemence by opposite factions, —and that the people are not accustomed to that obedience to the law with which we are familiar,—it cannot be surprising that such irregularities as are de tailed in the pamphlet quoted by my right hon. friend should have occurred, I can only assure my right hon. friend that if he was acquainted with what takes place in' the kingdom of Greece —in which a system of repre sentative Government has been established for a con siderable period—he would find occurrences far exceed ing, not only in gravity but in absurdity, the cases he has referred to as occurring in the principalities. The result is, however, that there is now no difference of opinion among the six Powers as to the propriety of iannulling the elections, and having tho lists u p on whi ch the elections are made revised in sucha manner as to in sure the strict and proper application of the firman of the Porte. My right hon. friend has intoduced the n 1 : eI largel i F ong e au h v ee - c d no b nci eh-debated amt doubte d that of agreat th e projected deal o f thatcanalin persuasive a a t u our Suez. w er h c i ia ch l c i i ' t l ies now to has been brought to bear upon nay right Lon, frionti, ITi OA asked souse endeavouring g ople in savour lof the scheme he recommends Mr. A. STAFFORD called the attention of the house to the evils and defects of the hospital at Netley Abbey, stating that although certain modifications had been made other changes were requisite, particularly with re• spect to the wards. As at present conaructed the wards would accommodate only eight or nine persons, whereas there ought to be sufficient room for 18 or 20. With such a building as Netley inspection would be difficult and nursing impossible. He entreated the noble lord at the head of the Government to consult Dr. Parker and Dr. Sutherland as to the size of the wards with a view to their alteration. 41 Mr. TITE agreed with the hon. gentleman that this hospital, as at present planned, would not be creditable to the country. He spoke not only with regard to the enor- ' mous outlay, which would not be less than 250,0001., but also on the score of humanity. With regard to the size of the wards, those of the foreign hospitals held, he be lieved, 30 or 32 men. In the Netley Hospital there were ten wards on the ground floor 15 feet by 13, receiving no air or light from the exterior, but opening into the corridor. These were to contain two men each. With re gard to the other wards they might, without any expense worth talking of, be enlarged so as to hold 18 men in stead of nine, and this would be a great improvement. The ventilation should be conducted on the n:►tural, not on the artificialsystem. The windows ought to be opened, and sufficient space allowed. Each man should have his 2,000 cubic feet, as was the practice in France. He would earnestly press on the attention of the Government the arguments which had been urged by the hon. member opposite (Hr. Stafiord). He entreated them to stop this work before it went any further. The mistake was re mediable now, but ere long it would be irremediable. What they wanted was the assistance of an experienced architect, accustomed to hospital arrangements. It was most important, in a national point of view, when they were about to expend a quarter of a million on the erec tion of an hospital,that they should avoid the commission of serious blunders. JUDICIAL PROCEDURE (INDIA). Mr. AYRTON asked the President of the Board of Control or the Chairman of the East India Company whether it was the intention of the Home Government not merely to remit to the authorities in India the power of considering what should be the future system of admi nistering justice in that country, but also whether they meant to allow the local Government of India to establish new tribunals andeto carry the new system into eitecu tion before Parliament had any opportunity of expressing its opinion on the subject? Mr. MANGLES said that a letter was now in prepa ration for the Government of India, directing them not to pass this law without further reference to the Imperial Parliament. Any law passed by the Indian Government must remain for a certain time on the table of that house, when it was in the power of any hon, member to object to it. When such a measure had laid on the table and bad not been revoked by Parliament it then beeame the law of India. THE PRINCIPALITIES, ROME, AND NAPLES. Lord J. RUSSELL—I do not think the example of this discussion will tend very much to the regularity of our debates ; but I wish to address a few words to the house on a subject which has been lost sight of for nearly an hour. The right hon. gentleman the member for the University of Oxford having asked some questionst re specting Wallachia and Moldavia, I cannot but observe upon what appeared to me to be an omission on the pert of-my noble friend in making his explanation. MY I noble friend stated that the four powers went to the Porte and asked that the elections should be annulled; and that the Sultan naturally said that a representation of that kind ought to have come, not from two, but from the whole of the six powers ; and that there was therefore some demur in agreeing to the proposal. I have understood, and I see it in the newspapers, that there was a previous step on the part of the ambassador'of England and the -internuncio of Austria. The elections having been delayed by a general agreement, I have been led to believe—indeed it is stated in a letter, though I don't know whether it is a genuine letter or not—but the letter states that there was a representation to the effect that the Sultan should not delay the elections any longer, and that he should send orders to have them immediately carried into effect. The letter even says, the ambassador of England and the internuncio of Aus tria stated that they were ready to be responsible for all the consequences that might flow from their interfer ence. The Sultan, not thinking that the intervention of the six powers was necessary, complied with the re quest of the English and Austrian representatives. The elections took place ; and hence the irregularities, and the interference of the four powers. The interference of those four powers was thus not a spontaneous action on their part, but it arose from the previous interference of England and Austria. Now, if these latter did in terfere in that way, it was an ill-advised step, and a step ill calculated to maintain that agreement between all the powers and that good understanding which is so necessary to the general tranquillity of Europe. (Hear, hear) With regard to the other question, namely, the union of the Principalities —the Divan being assembled—if it should express a strong wish that the Principalities should be united, I do not see that it would be right or practicable for the Powers of Europe to advise the Sultan to do otherwise than to concur in that opinion. At the same time it would be a step to which I shall look with no very great confidence ; be cause I am afraid if th e S u lt an i s t o h ave th e kingdom of Greece on the one side and the kingdom of Moldo- Wallachia on the other side of his dominions, it may tend to weaken his power-e-which power we entered into the late war for the purpose of maintaining. That, however, is entirely a ques tion for speculation, and one that must be left to the decision of her Majesty's Government. Whether it was wise to convene the Divans may bo a matter for debate; but having convened them, I think it would not be prac-* ticable to oppose any well-considered wish which may be expressed by the representatives of the people. As to a free government—surrounded by Russia, by Turkey, and by Austria, which are all inimical to free government — that will be a great difficulty; and as we have guaranteed such a free' government, it may lead to complications. (Hear.) There has been much desultory discussion to night ; but there is one subject with regard to which, see ing that the session is drawing so near to He close, I cannot help expressing some regret and some disappoint ment. Last year the ministers of great Britain and France expressed at Paris their earnest hope that the occupation of the Roman territory by France and Austria should cease ; and Lord Clarendon pointed out that if certain improvements and reforms took place in the Roman go vernment, the foreign occupation might no longer con- , tinue. The French and English Governments both pointed out that the present was an abnormal state of I things, and one by which the tranquillity of Europe might he endangered: Now, we have been told that the Pope has been to Bologna : and we are informed that to all the requests that were made to him-to effect a reform in his government, he expressed a fear that any reform ; The bill was entirely without justification, because there would lead to anarchy ; and he at once refused. The con- was not the sliglreat occasion for it. sequence must thus be that the foreign occupation must Mr. ADAMS eleo objected to the passing of the bill. continue—an occupation by Austria on the one hand, be- He coeeid, red it most unjust that the penalties of a re cause she has long had great influence in Italy, and an pealed act should be lino , sed upon new companies. occupation by France on the other hand, in order to show Some words, to which Mr. Mains assented, being iu that she is not disposed to leave this foreign occupation to troduced by the Government, the bill passed. Austria alone. I must say that such a state of things is The Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill was read totally inconsistent with the treaty of Vienna and with a second time. the independence of a foreign power. A power which The Militia Bill was read a second time. for eight years has had foreign troops in its dominions, The Lords' Amendments to the Court of Session (Scot and is now obliged to confess that it cannot maintain land) Bill were read and agreed to. its internal tranquillity without the aid of two The Customs and Excise Bill was read a second time. allied powers, and without foreign troops within its The Customs Bill was read a second time. dominions to suppress disLurbances— e such a power can- The Jurisdiction in Siam Bill was read a second time. not be held to be an independent one ; and we must The Trustees Relief Bill was read a sec md time. therefore lament that such a state of things should cm- The Charitable Trusts Acts Continuance Bill passed tinue. Of course it is not a question for a quarrel with through committee. those powers; but we may hope that such a state of Th e P r obates and Lett ers of Administration (Ireland) things will speedily cease, and that those powers will Bill passed through eommittee. hasten as much as possible to evacute the Roman terrie The Parochial Soh-one:asters (Scotland) No. 2 Bill tories. (Hear.) With regard to Naples, nothing can was read a second time, and afterwards passed though be said. If the King of Naples can maintain internal committee. •, traquillity in his dominions without foreign assistance, SALE OF OBSCENE BOOKS, &c., PREVENTION we have, of course, no right to interfere ; but ewe have BlLi t some right to interfere when foreign troops are allowed to occupy the territory of another power. (Hear.) Oa the order for going jut mittee on this bill,. Viscount PALMERSTON—I have no right to inter- Mr. ROEBUCK thought as impossible for metn pose, or to say one word ; but perhaps the house will bars at that time of the morning (25 minutes past one) permit me to correct my noble friend with regard to a to apply their minds to the subject. (Hear, hear, and matter of fact which is of some importance. My noble laughter.) He reeved the adjournment of the debate. friend conceives that the tworepresentatives at Constan- Mr. OSBORNE thought the hon. member for Sheffild tinople—namely, those of England and Austria—sepa- deserved great praise for directing attention to the bill, rated themselves from the other four. Now, the fact is which was a most noxious measure, and an advertisement just the reverse—it was the four who took the first stet-, for obscene books. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) and separated from the two ; and the subsequent advice The debate was adjourned till Wednesday next. given by the two was advice given in answer to' an ae• The Militia Pay Bill passed through committee, was plication from the Porte, with a view to obtain their read a third time, and passed. opinion. The matter has, however, now gone by. It The house adjourned at a quarter before t wo . relates to misunderstandings which were not intentional either on the part of the four or of the two. It is now a mere matter of past history, and it can have no bearing upon the future. (Rear.) Lord J. MANNERS briefly remarked on the incon venience of bringing forward the subject of Naples and of Rome without previous notice. Tue matter was one of extreme delicacy, and one that the house would not wish now to discuss ; hut he hoped that they would not be considered as in any manner committed by the obser vations which the noble lord bad made. (Rear.) TARIFFS. Mr. NEWDEGATE perceived that the right hon. gentleman the President of the Board of Trade bad given notice of an amendment upon a motion of his with re gard to certain returns on the subject of foicign tariffs. The noble lord's Government was the only one that had afforded him any assistance in the important work he (Mr. Newdegate) had undertaken—namely, a compen dium of all the tariffs in the world ; but he was afraid that the right hon, gentleman was about to alter the form in which his compendium had been published. He wished to know if that would be the case ? Mr. LOWE expressed surprise st the question. He had informed the hon. gentleman at his office that he should not press the atuendmentand that the hon. gen- Cernan might have his returns unopposed. The motion for adjournment till Monday was then withdrawn. MR. GLADSTONE AND THE DUKE OF NEWCASTLE'S DIVORCE. On the motion for going into committee on the Divorce Bill, Mr. GLADSTONE rose and said he had for the first time in his life to bring under the consideration of the house a matter personal to himself. He had road on the 12th of August in a report of one of those cases which unhappily were so frequently in the columns of the public lemmata, in which in the speech of the counsel he found the following :—" The learned sergeant would, no doubt, he said, make . a good many severe observations upon the witness Taylor, but the jury would bear in mind that guilt of the character attributed to the defen dant could only be established by the aid of such persons ; and that the journals of the House of Lords bore testi mony to the.fact that a right hon. gentleman, who was once a Minister of the Crown, had tracked the wife of a noble duke who after Wards obtained a divorce all through Italy, and appeared as a witness to prove the adultery, and that the fact of a man in the position of life of the plaintiff employing a man named Taylor to bring the charge home to the defendant ought not to operate against him, and that he was clearly entitled to damages if they considered the charge was established." In the Morning Post of that day, in allluding to that report, he found a leading article containing the following attempt to connect the matter with his conduct in that house :--" An interesting episode in the history of the right hon. gentleman has recently been given by a learned sergeant, to which we must beg to refer as illustrative of the consistency of one who, in the year 1851, was a party to a divorce bill similar in all its essential provi sions to the present, and who, in 1857, loudly predates that no divorce ,is permissible by Divine law. In a recent case of criminal conversation some discredit was cast upon the evidence of an individual who had been brougnt forward to prove the act of adultery. The counsel for the husband, in defending this witness, said, " but the. jury shoield bear in mind that guilt of the character mttributed - to the defendant could only be ascertained by the aid of such persons, and that the journals of the House of Lords bore testimony to the fact that a right hon. gentleman, who was once a Minister of the Crown, had tracked the wife of a noble duke, who after wards obtained a divorce, . all through Italy, and appeared as witness to prove her adultery.' Tile right hon. gentleman alluded to by Mr. Sergeant Parry was the member for the University of Oxford—the man who now would . deny to the poor that relief which he himself was the principal means of obtaining for a noble and wealthy colleague." He did not intend to take steps, which, perhaps, in former times might have been taken in such a matter, but he would simply meet the falsehood by a statement of the truth. The two state ments which had been made were in substance that he was employed by a noble duke for the - purpose of track ing his wife, and obtaining evidence of her adultery. That statement was entirely false. If he had been capable of accepting such an employment, the noble duke was a person quite incapable of conferring such employ ment. The other statement was that he (Mr. Gladstone) was the principal witness for the purpose of obtain ing the divorce of a noble and wealthy colleague. The truth of that statement could- be tested by a reference to the journals of the House of Lords. It was not true that he went for the pur pose, or had anything to do with the collection of evidence of adultery ; hot, on his oath before the House of Lords he had stated that he went for a purpose, as hs conscientiously believed, alike friendly to the interest of both parties concerned. It was totally untrue that his evidence was the evidence, or was part of the evidence, on which the divorce was founded. He was told ibat he was called, and he believed that he was called simply for the purpose of showing that the person claiming the bill at the hands of the ilouse of Lords had omitted no means that duty or affection could suggest of conciliation. That, was why he was called' as a wit ness, and no ee, having refeired to the noble duke who was so painfully connected with this matter, he had only ' to add that no one, on the revival of this painful subject, could look back to the conduct of that noble duke with out feelings of the warmest admiration and respect, (Hear, hear.) Country MarketF, DIVORCE BILL. The house then went into committee on this bill. Clause 26, with several verbal amendments, was passed, ClAnse 27 was then considered. Mr. BOVILL proposed,to introduce words to enable the Court to inquire into the conduct of the parties. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to theamend meet as unnecessary, because the clause, as it stood, em braced in a definite manner the object the hon. and learned gentleman had in view. Mr. I. BUTT opposed the amendment. Mr. BOVILL urged in reply, that his amendment was necessary to make the clause complete. Mr; GLADSTONE also opposed the amendment, but he considered the clause wanted alteration to make it agree with the two following clauses, which treated upon th© same 'subjects. Mr. I. 'BUTT suggested that the clause should be amended by introducing into it the provision of the 29th clause. That would give power by the 27th clause to inquire into all Matters on which the judgment of the Court was to be founded, and the 28th and 29th clauses would show the effects to result from that inquiry. Mr. WIGRAM objected to the proposition of the hon. and learned member for Youghal. Mr. BOVILL urged his amendment as necessary to make the proceedings accord with the present principle and practice of the Ecelesiastical Courts and the House of Lords in cases of divorce. Mr. MALINS-suggested that the Government should adopt the amendment. Sir J. GRAHAM supported the amendment, believ ing the words were necessary to make the proceedings of the new tribunal consistent with those they were about to abolish. The ATTORNEY -GENERAL said he was still of opinion that the clause as it stood gave all the securities required, but if the committee were of a contrary opinion ho would give way. (Hear.) After, some discussion, in which Sir J. Graham, Mr. Henley, M r . Wigram, and the Attorney-General tcok part. Mr. WIGRAM suggested a proviso giving to the word "accessory'' in this clause the meaning intended by the amendment of the honourable and learned mem ber for Guildford. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL assented to the sug gestion. The committee divided upon Mr. Bovill's amendment, and the numbers were — For the amendment 55 Against it Majority against the amendment ,- 38 The amendment was therefore negatived. On the question that clause 27, as amended, stand part of the bill, 'Mr. GLADSTONE thought that if the existing prac tice-of the House of Lords was to be departed from, the committee ought to divide against the clause. 'The ATTORNEY GENERAL held that the prac tice which now prevailed was not in fact departed from in the present bill. The clause was agreed 0. •On the motion of Mr. BOWYER, The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Monday. JOINT STOON. COMPANIES ACT (1855) AMENDMENT BILL. _ _ TANS objected. By a bill pass e d l ast year all wass tiroenaaatthitirad.otpimases., assloVlThurarai.stuhMcbeeiAlgl eora panics were exempted from the operation of that act, and from the 7th and Bth Viet. Some com panies had been established under that act, but this bill would impose upon those companies established since the p a3a ing ot the act of 1856 penalties for not complying with the 7th anntir 'Victoria, which Lekbeea repealed • pier, and other members, Clause 25 was agreed to, having occupied the committee during the whole sit ting, 1, and a considerable portion of two others. On clause 26, Mr. PULLER moved as an amendment to have out "presented by a husband," and to insert " for the dissolution of a marriage on any petition for a decree of judicial separation on the ground of adultery being presented." The object of the amend ment in connexion with one he had to propose on clause 31 was to provide that every party brought before a court and found guilty of adultery should be punished by fine or imprisonment, or fine and imprisonment at the discretion of the judge. He admitted that this would be a great innovation upon the existing law, but he contended tbat it naturally, legitimately, and necessarily grew out of the changes in the legal process which the bill effected. Mr. HENLEY said that the clause as it stood was one-sided, and required amendment ; but he did not think that anything about judicial separation ought to be dragged into it. At the same time he considered that both parties should have the same facilities for going into court. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL consented to modify the clause so as protect the alleged adulteress by giving to the Court a discretionary power to make her a co• respondent in the suit, Mr. Ayrton, Lord Lovaine, and Mr. Bovill having offered some observations on the clause, The CHAIRMAN reported progre6s, and obtained leave to sit again. Lord PALMERSTON said the bill would be pro ceeded with this evening. The house would meet to• morrow at twelve o'clock, principally to pass certain unopposed bills a stage, and the Divorce bill would be proceeded with again at 12 o'clock on Monday. MILITIA BILL. This bill passed through committee. MU rINY (EAST INDIA) BILL. This bill was read a second time. At tour o'clock the house adjourned. At six o'clock the house resumed. PROBATES BILL. _ _ _ Mr. HADFIELD asked whether it was intended to make English probates sufficient for all purposes in Eng land and Scotland, and vice versa ; also, whether it was intended to make the Scotch confirmation effectual in England and Ireland, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said it was the in tention of the Attorney-General for Ireland to introduce a clause into the Irish Probate Bill to make Irish pro bates efficacious in England, and English probates in Ireland. With respect to the other point of Scotch con firmations he was rather irresolute at present. THE EUPHRATES VALLEY ROUTE TO INDIA. Mr. T. S. ESTCOURT said he was compelled, by the pressure of public business, to adopt the only course open to an individual member to bring forward a matter which he conceived to be of the greatest national im portance, and should therefore conclude with the formal motion that the house at its rising do ad journ until Monday next. In his endeavours to bring forward this motion he had met with great and frequent disappointments. Twice when he had,pre cadence the day had been changed from a motion to an order day, and twice he had been prevented from pro ceeding with his motion by the unavoidable absence of the noble lord at the head of the Government. Ho w• ever, they had at last the opportunity he had so long hoped for. There were two points on which he wished to set himself right with the house. The first regarded him self. The range of subjects to which he usually turned his attention in that house was of a humble character, hav ing reference to the comfort and wellbeing of his fellow subjects, and it might perhaps be considered presum tuous in him to advocate a question so important as the laying down of a line of communication with our pos session in the East. One sentence, however, would explain how it was that be came to take up this ques tion. A brother of his, who two years ago lost his life in the Crimea, was sent 20 years ago to explore the country through which the proposed line was to pass. He could nut but know from him something of the locality, and of many of the main points bearing on this question, and when his commander, General Chesney, some six weeks ago applied to him to bring the subject before the house he did not feel that he had any right to shrink from it. (Hear.) The other preliminary point to which he wished to refer regarded the Suez line of communica tion. He begged emphatically to declare that, accord ing to the best of his understanding, the line by the Ea pbrate 3 was not a competing line with that of Suez. The line of the Euphrates would effect a saving of nine hun dred miles in distance, or equal to four or five days in time. The line would commence at a port on the Orontes, which would cost nothing, as it would be provided by the Turkish Government up to Antioch. They would pass the range of the Lebanon at a height of only about 1,100 feet above the level of toe sea, and they would then debouch into the great plains of Mesopotamia, and no plains on the fade of the earth could be so favour able to engineering purposes. It might be suffi oient to stop at the Euphrates, because upon that stream we already had ships and steamers. It would be for after consideration the carrying the line down to the Persian Gulf. The proposed line would be opposite to Kurrachee, which, he believed, would be the great future entrepot for British industry to l3ritish India. The commercial advantages of the proposition which he now submitted would be enormous; for the practical effect would he that India would be brought from eight t,, ten days neater to the couutuy. ne had been told that all the shares had been taken, and all that the company required was security, because the whole of the proposed line would be laid down on foreign soil—on Turkish territory—and as this was a national undertaking ili was but fair that the Government of this country should see that the • property so created should not be taken away from those who created. For about sixty miles the line would pass over the territory of the Arabs—those hereditary freebooters. For four thousane. years they had been predatory free booters, but it must be remembered that a hundred years ago the Highlanders of Scotland were as great freebooters as the Arabs. (Laughter.) These free booters were bought off, and he believed that if the Arabs could be shown that they could get more by protecting the railway than by robbing it, there would be no ap prehension from the Arabs. A contract for making the line from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates had been taken for 1,100,000/ , and the capital of the company was 1,400,0001. The Turkish Government had given a guarantee of 6 per cent. on that capital, and the security of that amount would be 80,000/., a year, which would be the amount of duties on g mds conveyed by this rail way to Aleppo, and which would pass through the hands of the company. What he asked was teat this scheme should receive 'that support from the State which would enable it to be carried out. He was not connected with the company, he spoke of the scheme in the interests of the country generally. What was asked of the Government was, that if in making the line, and one or two years afterwards the means of the company should not be sufficient to make a certain return, the Government should assist the scheme up to a certain amount. The . utmost extent of deficiency, as calculated by Sir J. Shiel, was 100,000: in fire years. Let them consider what an enormous ad vantage, at this moment, this railway would have been if it had been constructed five years ago l Why, the rein forcements to India could have been sent out in one month after the rece:pt of the news of the mutiny in India. At present we could only send these reinforce -meats by eailing vessels, and the troops might arrive out in time oily to grace the triumph of the insurgents. In a political point of view it was important they should adopt this railway, because it would have the effect of binding more strongly India to England. As a com mercial speculation it would be free from the mistrust of other nations, of being a military road kept up by tha Government for aggressive purposes. A railway through the Euphrates Valley would open up a coun try of great fertility, and in that point of view it would be superior to the other proposed line by way of Suez and the Red Sea. All that was asked for to carry out this line was a little help from the Govern ment, and a promise that this c mntry would support it after it was made. To neglect those two essentials would be a great dereliction of duty on the part of the Government. Ho looked upon the present time as be ing most favourable for the Government to grant the assistance asked. By their undertakieg to do so they would give an earnest of their pluck and constancy to wards India, and of their confidence and determination to hold possession of that country. (Hear.) Mr. CRAWFORD seconded the motion for adjourn ment, to enable the subject to be entertained by the house. Referring to the remarks of the hon. member, Mr. Esteourt, he said that that gentleman had failed to I make allusion to a subject of great importance to In• dia, the establishment of telegraphic communication be- 1 1 tween the two countries—the exister,ca of which at the present moment would have been of the greatest advantage both to the Government and the relations of those residing in that country. He looked upon the establishment of telegraphic communication be tween the two countries of far greater import ance than the construction of a railway through the Eu phrates Valley, which, he thought, would be found not to find so much favour with the public as the hon. mem ber appeared to think. The establishment of telegra phic communication with India would be of the greatest advantage, and if carried out it should be by a company , as a commercial speculation, and not by the Govern ment, who should only be called upon to assist the en terprise. The experience obtained relative to the for mation of ralways in India was of advantage in con nection with the establishment of telegraphic communi cation with that country, and in order to establish the latter, the Government should give its support in a similar manner to that given by the East India Company to railways, which was by guaraeteeing a certain part of the expense for a priority of use of the telegraph and a representation of its interest at the board of manage ment, There were two proposals before the public for carrying out telegraphic communication with India•—one by way of the Euphrates Valley, aad the other by way of Suez, both being identical In a one respect, viz., that of taking their &par. hon,p os e Iln s tre from Alexandria and terminating at ICur 'ache°, where the present telegraphs in India met. The merits, membe r then detailed the route of each of the pro- Red Sea route, said that on examination of their com parativethbe preference must be in favour of the / would be free of theecase besides other advantages, it difficulties which appeared to exist I with reference to the Euphrates route from fear of poli tical complications arisin g in connection with it. The hon. gentleman condemned what he characterised a promoters of the Eu 1, covert desire on the part of the opinion of that ! 1 phrates route to gain an expression f 1 house in its favour, and stated that if Pagreent should 1 ' Persons would be 1 think fit to authorise the Government to amount of capital, n S e e c a e , ss t a h r a y t to the formation of telegraphic communication ' 1 found d a r e b a y d lay it down within twelve months and keep it in repair i y wa t y o a o d f va th n e ce ß th e e d for a certain period. I Mr. GLADSTONE after some • Introductory remarks THE KING OF OUDE. Sir F. KELLY said, before the noble lord proceeded to answer the question of the right hon. gentleman the member for the University of Oxford, he wished to put to him the question respecting the King of Oude of which he had given notice. From the moment intelli gence reached this country of recent events in India, the Royal family of Oude forbore to urge their case upon the attention cf Parliament, and were content to await in patience the moment when they could appeal to the jus tice of the Legislature. It was by their wish that he forbore to revert to their claims. No communication had reached any one member of the Royal family of Oude in this country from the King, and they had only learned through the ordinary channels of information that the father of one of their number and the son of another had been conveyed to prison, and was now suffering a harsh imprisonment, under circumstances which rendered it impossible for any of them to communicate with him or for him to receive any communication from them. They stated their belief from their knowledge of his life that ho was utterly incapable of having done anything incon sistent with the fidelity which he had always shown to the British Crown, not only when he was King of Oude, but since his deposition. All that he was permitted to ask on behalf of the Queen-Mother was that Government would permit some communication, even subject to their inspection, between the King of Oude and his family in this country, and this he asked as an act of kindness, of charity, and of justice. Mr. V. SMITH said, as his noble friend at the head of the Gevernment would have to reply to the ques tions that had been raised relative to the Euphrates Railway and the Dannbian Principalities, the house would perhaps allow him to answer the questions whether the King of Oude was still under duresse, and under what charges he had been arrested. He be lieved, from the letters that had arrived by the present mail, that the King of Oude was still under arrest, and that the charge upon which he had been arrested was complicity in the revolt that had taken place at Delhi. That charge was made by a person who was to be ex amined hereafter. No doubt, an investigation into the facts would take place as shortly as possible, and if it should appear that the King and Court of Oude had had nothing to do with the revolt it would be the duty of the Governor-General to liberate him. But the hon. and learned gentleman had rather overstated the case when he said that the King of Oude was undergoing a harsh imprisonment. The King of Oude was certainly re moved from his residence to Fort William, but there every species of attention that could be paid to a Royal prisoner was manifested to him. Ho was arrested under Regulation 3 of the province of Bengal, which set forth : " Whereas reasons of state, embracing the due,mainte nance of the alliances formed by the British Government with foreign Powers, the preservation of tranquillity in the territories of native Princes entitled to its protection, and the security of the British dominions from foreign hostility and from internal commotion, occasionally render it neces sary to place undee personal restraint individuals against whom there may not be sufficient ground to institute any judicial proceeding, or when such proceedin g ma y no t b e adapted to the nature of the case, or may, for other reasons, be unadvisable or improper." That was the authority under whichhis Majesty had been confined, ,and he would now read the letter which the GovernorlGeheral wrote to the King of 0 ado upon the occasion of his arrest : " Fort William, June 15. " Sir,—lt is with pain that I find myself compelled to re quire that your Majesty's person should for a season be re moved to within the precincts of Fort William. The name of your Majesty and the authority of your Court are used by persons who seek to excite resistance to the British Government, and it is necessary that this should cease. Your Majesty knows that from the day when it pleased you to fix your residence near Calcutta to the present time, yourself and those about your Majesty have been entirely free and uncontrolled. Your Majesty may be assured, then, that it in not the desire of the Governor-General in Council to interfere needlessly with your movements and actions. Your Majesty may be equally certain that the respect due to your Majesty's high position will never be forgotten by the Government or its officers, and that every possible provision will be made for your Majesty's conve nience and comfort." There was no symptom of harshness in this letter. It was his (Mr. V. Smith's) desire to treat the native princes with the utmost consideration and courtesy, and his noble friend the Governor-General was animated by the same desire. No restraint had been put upon the King of Oude's family in this country, and it was not quite correct to say that no communication had taken place between them, because a communication had been brought to him from the King of Oude to his relatives in this country, which he desired should be immediately forwarded to the Queen of Oude. It was obvious that as the King of Oude was in confinement at Calcutta for the purpose of restraining any correspondence in which he might be engaged with the supposed conspiracy, it was impossible to allow any communication to take place between him and his friends. His family in this coun try would for the present be cut off from that commu nication, but there would be no desire after the trial to continue that restraint. The arrest of the King of Oude was a measure of precautionary policy, of which the house must approve. He trusted that it would turn out that the King of Oude was perfectly innocent of any im plication in the conspiracy ; and he had no doubt that if his name bad been used without his authority he would be acquitted. So long, however, as the Governor-Gene ral had reason to believe that either the King of Oude or his courtiers were acting in complicity with the revolt his noble friend would be justified in confining him. (Hear.) Sir F. KELLY said it was true that a paper pur porting to have come from the King of Oude had been brought to the Royal Family of Oude, but they did not know how it bad reached this country. (The hon. and learned gentleman was stopped in his explanation by cries of "Order.") Mr. GRIFFITH should be happy to give his assist. ance towards carrying out the Euphrates Railway, bat should consider it unfortunate if other means of com munication with the East should be thrown into the shade, or looked upon with prejudice by Government. For example, how great an advantage it would be if we were able to send our large steamers filled with troops to India through the Red Sea. Concurring with the noble lord at the head of the Government as to the phy sical difficulties which lay in the way of the construction of the proposed line, he was yet ofopinion that we ought not to manifest any unreasonable jealousy of the prose-. cution of the scheme. Lord PALMERSTON—Sir, the hon. gentleman the member for Wiltshire, who began this discussion, need have made no excuse for the course which he has adopted, because no member of this house, owing to the part which he has taken in our deliberations, is batter entitled to draw our attention to any subject with re spect to which he may deem it to be his duty to offer ala opinion. The subjects upon which he has this evening touched relate to questions which are unquestionably of very great interest to the country. There can be no doubt that if railway communication were established along the route which he has indicated—that is to say, from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates—then a fur ther communication either by - railway or by water, iaterAti LIVERPOOL-AuG. 14. At this day's market there was a slender attendance, and a moderate amount of business was transacted in. wheat and flour at an advance over Tuesday of about ld to 2d per bushel on wheat and 6d per barrel and sack on flour. No cliange in other articles—all mot a languid sale. WAKEFIELD-AUG. 14. We are moderately supplied with new wheat to-day, which meets a fair demand at last Friday's rates. Old wheat rather dearer than on Tuesday. No alteration in other articles. Average prices of grain=—Wheat, 62s —d ; bailey, 38s 01; oats, 313 --d; beans, 493 1d ; peas, 403 6d; rye, Od. EXETER—Aua. 13. CORN.—Wheat, 7s 6d to 7s 9d ; barley, 5s to 5s 6d ; grinding do., Oh Od. to Os Od. Oats, 3s 4d to 3s 6d. Beans, Os to 0 Od. Peas, ON Od to 00s Od. . Pm:Rt.—Fine, 42s Od to 44s Od ; seconds, 40s Od to 428 Od per sack. CATTLE. --There was a small supply of bullocks. Best beef, frOm lls to Us 61 per score ; inferior, 9s 6d to na per score ; fat'calves, 5c1.16 6d per lb ; barrenners, Os Od to Os Od. per snore ; cows and calver, 121. to 20/. us ; butchers' calves, Od to 7d perlb., rearing calves —s to • s each; sheep, ewes and lambs, 21. 5s to 31. 5s per couple; ewes, Od to 6,1 ; wethers, 6d ; lambs, 7?;(1. to 0 per b. Pigs, large size, —s- to —s; second size, —s to —s ; slips, —s to —s ; suckers, —s to —s. Rough fat, 4id per lb. Pork carcases from 11s Od to lls 9d per score. COIL 15.1 ARK Prices of Coals per ton at ET.—AuG. 14. t the close of the market I Wallsend, s. d, Newcastle Hartley 16 0 Tanfield Moor &Ms 15 9 Redbengh Main ...13 0 Morpeth West Hartley 16 6 Earsden's Hartley l6 6 Carr's Hartley l7 3 Chester Main l6 0 Walker Primrose l3 9 West Hartley Grey's 16 6 Wylam l6 0 Wallsend, tze. _ _ _ s d. ,„17 0 Eden . Riddell ::16 0 Kepier Grainge R,ussoll's fietton , South Hetton Stewart's Elunwiek ~;10 0 ~37 6 _lB 9 _lB 9 6 Braddyll „. :I'7 6 ICoundon Tees :16 9 Montague 16 6 Hartlepool Hetton 17 6 Eden Main ' 17 13 Hough Hall + Kenos ..18 0 Whitworth " l6 0 Tees Derwehtwater Hartley .17 0 South Hartlepool lB 0 Lambton 38 6 Ships at market ITrimdOn ..18 0: Brown's Moor Haigh 1_ Main l5 6 liarton ,;:i6 3 Framwellgate fietton • ...17 0 ...19 0 ;, 78 ; sold, 75. COURSE OF EXCHANGE.—YESTERDAY. tan5terdati............. 11 17 I(3ibraltar •....• •• ..Ditto, three months .. 11 1934 Leghorn ... 29 85 Rotterdam •• •• •• •• •• 11 19% Genoa Antwerp ••••••• •• •• 25 40 iMilan •• •• •• •• •• •• •• Brussels ••• • •• ...• •• •• 25 4 Venice. •• •• •••• •• z:lamburgh •• •• •• •• •• •• 13 814* Naples ••• ••••••• •••• •• •a , 42% Altona •• •• •• •• •• •• • • Palermo •••• •• •••••• •• 128 raris •• • . Do. three months •... 25 65 Lisbon .. Marseilles ........ 25 65 Oporto .............. • • 52Th Bourdeaux ..; •••••• •• •• •• Rio Janeiro ..... ....... Frankfort-on-Maine •• .. 119% _Buenos Ayres ..... Rerlin ................ • • New York,6o d a y s ' s i g ht 10 32 _Philadelphia .......... frieste •• •• •• •• •• •• 10 34 PtICES OF lITYLLION, OZ: 2otersburg .......... 363 Foreign Gold In Bars £3 17 9 Madrid 3... 48% Portugal Gold Coin .. 0 0 0 Cadiz 49% Mexican Dollars .... 0 5 1 14 B %rcelona ............ New Dollars 0 0 0 Seville.... - Silver in bars 0 0 0 LOCAL SHARE MARKETS. LIVERPOOL, Aug. 14. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The transactions in this market during the week have been quiet, and closed flatly this afternoon. Manohester, Sheffield, and Lincoln, 38 I i'' Midland, 811 —York Capital Stock, 38. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIoway's Ointment and Pills. —These potent remedies constitute a materia mediea io themselves, for there .is no internal or external disorderet controllable by medicine, for which the one or the other of them is not a positive remedy. 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