The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-05-14 00:00:00

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EnwAim Nitt.t.tixo Was called in and examined by Mr. .Lon as follows: e you a shipwright in Liverpool? —Yes. you carry ou business in partnership with Mr. Pearson ? ate you been vou subpcenaed t o give evidence here ?—Yes. com e unwilling hem vvillingl e y or unwillingly ?—I have come es.Y ly. uu in the habi t of employing large numbers of freemen ? out the time of the election, did you employ Edward Kelly William Brown ?_Yes. ..e i they freemen ?—Yes. 1101111sk them to vote for anybody ?—I did. askel the hem "Y to. you ?—TheY said they 'l lO d , i them provided they could. not be ter them elves. ere ,'Ll_Yu ask them to vote for ?—Mr. Thornely. _ ..e . 11 h e "?se men in your yard during the election ?—I s. heelnh4lnt,eh,:i-tv.e their work ?—Kelly left about 2 o'clock , s urs oo ? as t h, s e second .day ?—Yes. va ls lP'll there during the whole time ?—Brown was not lidi ii 2' "Pen the Thursday at all. 0 t ho se men vote for Mr. .Thornely ?—I believe . not. , 'o'l,ll,lc_ 00! John Crane, a shipwright ?—Yes. 4, 0 „" 1 , % • a man named Darnley , a shipwright?—Yes. , a sk : tl;', 4 " ° ask them to vote for Mr. Thornely ? — No, il l I n, I met them, at did ' d give them I did ati ete ,_3 O ll say to them ?—They said if I woul li c l n tneY would go and vote for him. I tlYthl - g iv e them the 6s. ?—No, I said I had no orde.rs own ket, , n g "Ithe kind, and if I did it would be out of my_ON it. 'o4l4litnted it w"8 against nay principles and I would not da_ o, etitne these men working in your yard ?—N c hat s the ) work for us. ersaisuthe rate of wages in your yard ?-Is.' 6d. a-day, the lr, j ag,,,s•—The witness withdrew. fipi:LDENT was called iu and examined by Mr. VS :--. Merchant at Liverpool ?—I am. ,• a Inerder for Mr. Thornely's committe_ e ? ii, - - __A_l r y . )-a ni c ,', 4 , uPon Mr. Thornely's committee and e on M )In collect'e but I did not act on . either. , to ~ou the second day of the election going - se 4 'n's, in 'lithebarn-street ?—I did.. l i 3 O : any men there ?—I saw seven or nine. 01 '14 any of them were freemen ?—yes, I knew speak; in were freemen. to thein ?—Yes, the man I spoke to was Win. ° lt t a li vr e i Tgo to vote while you remain e d th ere ?—T wo lk th y. e !art ?-- tive that remained to vote for Mr. Thornely I did. Nen ribbon s ?—They had, i n th e i r b u tt on h o l es . der rd w he dla n see the landladyhere ?—I did, she took Ryder out 'l l 'd he t urned tax ther e l ' et urned from the yard did he say anything. e t n o lvould not go up without the bnd ,_ o w r il me ha ck he said, Mr. Ilaseiden, it is of no use ve f been ' NI, I have a wife and six children, I have ac' ' k's wo two weeks an d drinking here a week, and Imust as Sex, or at let £2 before I go up, before any Proposal made by Mr. Ryder for himself ?—And .. Bee those? —I them about half Ad the mere afterwards saw ~e d )o,. Y (l r eell ribb .01th .-. th e ~ nns on them .—\o, y he were in a Vh et eir hat.,: zirawers' Arms, and t hey the t y had red ribbons !t e m ' et e N • to Vauxhall-road )41 .' ken o - Q ii then going ?—I was going . 1.. )„ see r. s ite „ the landl dafterwards ?—I saw her in about an ,e re th ark, a y l ' n 'n'it ee fiVzien then there ?—No, they had one. _ .--- "'as thi s application of li ydCr's made out 10ud , ..... . n 'ad - gat the leti.y?—.lt , made quietlY• he'ar e ei t t h e i r freemen' a c s ould not . he . a . r ?-.--ithe of . the other , tl , teeli te '' xi ° e .i cause Ryder was sitting on the table, and h4cer lour (-Lose to hnn. • a k ren that you spoke of ?—Tu;o remained in ` when the proposition was made to me there a oni v rjesent. LT:eB "ou ,- - that three out of the seven were free itt'elieve the others to have been, but I did not 'I'lii:::i':"911/cairs„4!1)8(.;!..ilier Of this inquiry ?—Not at all, I am a loser the witnes s withdrew. 'te'v foll o 'Y was called' in, and examined by Mr. hut ?—Yes. )idlouvote, Liver Tool?—Yes. >\'\u ask :„ t the last el ec ti on as a fr e e burgess ?—Yes.-"y master-ship w ri g ht to give you 6s. for your lir '1 ,4 t - • • 411 0 ,.„- ° any master-shipwright, that you would vote OvutecilS if he would give You 6s. ?—No. '"You 44 Lord S d Ewart ?—Yes. get anythin,,aL ° you a r n vole ?—Nothing . but a glass of oat o , vot Corws-examined by Mr. Rushton. !e 1 1 . )%th ?”` the first or second day cannot say. 1 4 ) . 0 , 4 ock. In the Ilayinarket : think it was about ee ' 4r . Melling on the first day of the election ? r)°:el ert tlie ° l'it:h C rane when he met Mr. Melling on the first 1 y ou se eetio n 47.,(ty i‘lr. Mellin; then ?—lt was not the first day: it !idle ask be it began. VC„ Ycit l a : ft to vote ?---Ail : he did not. 4 . ?...,.. N . ?; co nversation with hint upon thesubject of the ' d /011 a sk hi at all. . i ci lle g i ve . to for any drink ?—.No. Lilla give 3 0 U any 2__No. _ ' w a , ; .1 1 0 u ally money ?—„No. ,so els it I le , e?____ l Y . on Zit the time ?—Crane, I believe. t „ t 'e d o v ' cannot tell. u 'Qat t i me du live ?—ln Frederick-street. 1 4 : i '' 11 (1 d 7,„ did you go out of your house in the morning of I; ' ,C 4 ) . I ; 4 , cif the election ?—That . I cannot tell, because I.- NI go at • '1 k ili v r ,.., . i.x•o eoc . . , 4 1 .011 te lpt at six o'clock on that. morning ?—Ye .. s :r l tt d i i_d l .. i i . 'ouß e tile cotumittee, whether you went to 3.t . .. ilie I ti• ' at ni It. ,ut h t . . tie o'clock in the morning ?—Yes, I will. (J'4 . j Z ie,, :• w il felling's house, and Ido not ktune where he 4 to.. .4.Nt was. h, t ilow s called in and examined by Mr. Hutchin toYeti 2 pi,,, 11 li ve I ,*. — .A. Shipwri,oht. 1 , 04 k 1). ' , Liverpool ?—y es, I,t ti e ,. } - ,, Z.‘i v tii T h i o.nlas Darney, the last wittess.—Yes. o 'lt ti i ,„ e , 'up upon the day before' the last election or li Y " 4 kilo .'---N°- • . . 1.. ) e a s h . IN Mr. Melling 2—Yes. 4, N: I pwr • 1, 1 (ill ztk , it ?_y„. ki °eti °ll 2 1111 '' to give lon six shillings if you voted at the l c (1 4 84 :Thu. 18 11 . 11. Y 4 ) any. ?pastor 'Thipwright. that if he would give el. 1 41g .° - t) ,•!)ti rev e 3 u m ould vote tor io , ritc . . . .po ek i ', Illbe r if you were at _th. .Alelling"s' house at ro, ''''e Af i r l the morning, before the election ?—Ao, I do not ii ,. 0 (4,4. . felling lives • 4,Y 0 11 8 , 7 ,, hY Air. Rushton. :11;;!1,e114.1r. Melling at all during the election ?—I did 1 yoti--s 11 1 Castl e - street. he e j e r kiln in Cha p el-street ?—No. Y°ll : v ask 'y ?—No. 'er sal-, any thing ru to vote him respecting your vote?- ft ir thi, he h a • r e ,,, !said so, it i s t o t a ll y untrue ?—lf has raid 1 44( !. - ` -e itng th a t h e h as told a falsch wd.—The u• itue is thi ti 4ll- tr S p , in and examined by ;Mr. soi l as ENc-Eat •was called 41, . 0 11()%vg ' 5 9 h e itc.'e Wife of James Spencer ?—Yes. ? "-V e . el) the Brewer's Arms in Tithebarn-street, in Li he c omae to now Will iam Ryder, the carpenter ?—Yes. Your house sometimes to get his allowance. ty4llo:l7B,euoiltileeeftrethenle secondei yourday of the last election ?—Yes. ti'w house at different times dur -I°4 hoes William Ryder being the! . Boreet trust Ryder ?Yes, he is an old customer I% at b"e011(1 4t Yder da y of the election do you , recollect- whether 3, 0 1. s 1 quiteuut of th e h ouse into the vard?—No, I do nut. o t , t °4 ev er }ure that q you did not ?--Quite sure. e/ lipl ' e ar hint say " I must have 1.: . ) to vote, I have a n I have been drinking ?"—No, You k„ t (J '.4ow Ward en Ryder went away —lt was getting rather three o'clock, I think, •‘_!- -- .- --- •,,4 '','• J oti ;;F ct o 44 04 a .e s'l be bf 3 ou s a f° ) 11 c O i l y ft 're yo 1 ' Wa s T ?,.' gr,oti. 41• V% t(ii;),l D ubs e 11 ~1 re C P , bi t i ‘ ll ‘ o ers , irnistsillrel btuithl.(,:itell,,,,,iel i ' 5,0 6 , y 4 (l Y 0 4 71 s w ho a b i ii P ars ; , e f ti, a ir of id ( 13 ` bi er il iie k 1 ,isoll al , anc l d ,' 1•1' r • 4, 11se 5 f 1) ,1 ti les . - !ion 0 * il, t ot 4 You' @ b e ep ... t o ., 4.1 e back [14' 11 ;0 ii ? ei l 114 h a ' d v I le ; • rd, 21/ In ' l e ake 1, 11 -uu„ Et, f f of ~^eitg Du p. 0 1,.. to work rttarY , d o, k . tvo k , t leclis c , U cl Ii: RO up ion, i °l3 ' '''' t: 5 8 t. 41 41) e been h i o ci . 1. . 04 ae ose a l . 4 1 [1 1 • r e L fLi n s f th e • e th eY co -ca 114 4 ' 0 ? of 1 the Iv, th e i r , ,2 41 '4l._ ni THE LIVERPOOL STA:\ DAR 1). Do you recollect whether he went out by himself, or with the rest ?—I think he went out with my master. Did he go out without any person fetching him ?—Yes, he did. Did you see any money given at your house to any of the per sons that were there?—No. You say there were some freemen in your house ; did they go from your house to the poll, and come back from the poll to your house p—They were backwards and forwards most of the day. Did any of them, as far as you know, bring back any money after having polled?—Nut one farthing a piece that I saw. Was Ryder drinking at your house that evening as well as in the day ?—Yes, he was. Didlie pay for what he had in the evening, or drink upon trust ?-0n credit. You suffered him to run up a score ?---Yes, and he always paid me very well. I believe this is your second journey to London upon this oc casion ?—Yes.. You were brought up by the petitioners ?—Yes. Cross-examined by Mr. Rushton. You keep the 'Brewer's Arms, and you remember the second day of the election, and that Ryder was in your house ?—Yes. Do you remember Mr. Haselden coming there ?—NO. This tall thin gentleman ?—I do not remember. that I 'ever saw him in my life. Ryder was there you said ?—He was there. How many with him ?—I cannot tell you the number—seven or eight; I think. What did ltvder owe you at that time ?—About 12s. orl3s. How long had he been in getting up that score ?—lle only owed me a few shillings before the election day.' If You dont remember Mr. Haselden, do you remember any gentleinan coming in to canvass the freemen ?—Yes, I remem her many gentlemen. Did these men, in your house, wear green ribbons ?—No. Did You ever see them in green ribbons ?—I cannot say that I ever did. Did you ever see them with any coloured ribbons ?—There was a little crimson, but there was very little ribbon worn. You do not remember any gentleman coming in to canvass them on the afternoon of the second day ?—There were several gentlemen tame in. Were you present when the gentlemen spoke to the freemen ? No. I was not, I was minding the house. Then Ryder might have said, that it was of no use humbug ging them, and he would not go Without £2 never heard him say that. Might it not have occurred during the period of your tempo rary•absence ?—I cannot say thil-t_ Were you absent long enough for the man to say that ?—I was backwards and forward in the house. How long were you away flora the freemen during that after noon at any one time ?—fwas away a few minutes together. Were you away at any time five minutes ?—I dare say I was. Do you remember, after the man went away to vote, a gen tleman coining ?—No, I do not recollect any gentleman calling. - After they were gone, do you remember ever saying to Mr. Haselden or any other person that they had had their shot, and more than £2 F—No, I am sure I did not, I could not say so. • Did von I did not. Nothing to that purpose ?—No. - Re-examined by Mr. Hutchinson. You are quite sure that you did hot go into the Yard with Ryder, and bargain with bins about his vote. ?— That can take an oat h of: Mr. 'Jolla BILLINGE was called in and examined by Mr. Rushton as follow: How long have you lived in Liverpool?—A little more than three years. Are you in the employ of Mr. M`Kee ?—I am. What is he ?—A slater and plasterer. Does Mr. M`liee employ many freemen ?—lle • employs seven freemen. HaVe vou Mr. M'Kee's wanes book ?—I have. Do yoii keep that book ?—f do. Do you pay the wages ?—I do. Do . you enter them in that book?—I do. Have you got the pay account of Saturday the 13th of De, cember ?- 7 4 have. Was that the Saturday after the election ?—lt was. Do you find in the boiik the name of William Berry ?—I Is ha a freeman P—He is, Barry is his real name, but we have always entered it as Berry. Is he a plasterer?—He is. Are there two men of the name of Barry, in your establish ment P—There are. Are they both freemen ?—They are. - Is there a freeman of the name of Ilall, in your establish ment ?—There is: What is his name ?—Robert. Is there a freeman of the name of Perry ?—There is. h Walley a freeman ?—Yes. • What is his Christian name ?—I cannot say. Is there a Williams ?—Yes, John Williams. Is Moseley there ?.--Yes. Are those names I have mentioned, the names of freemen of the establishment ?—They are. Do you knoW how those men voted ?—f believe they voted for Loid Sandon, and Sir Howard Douglas. How many days in the week did William Barry work ? Three days and three quarters. Joseph Barry?—Three days and three quarters. Robert Hall?—'llree days and three quarters. Williams?—Three days and threes quarters. Berry ?—Three days and a half. Mosely ?—One day and three quarters. What would have been William Barry's regular wages for the time he worked ?—Barry's wages would have been 15s. Joseph Barry ?-15s. Robert Hall-?-18s. What did you actually pa y them ?-19s. each. Why did • 3-ou add 4s. to .the amount of their earnings ?—I was ordered to do it by Al`Kee, to pay for the day in which they went to the poll. Did you do that for the whole seven in the establishment ? I did. Then though these men had earned but 15s. you paid them 19s. ?—I did, and others in propOrtion that had less wages. How many men have'you in the establishment altogether ? I think about 50. 'Were those men' at constant work during the week ?—They were not. Did you allow those men that were off work, and were not freemen 4s. ?—I did not. Were there many off work besides freetnen ?—Almost all of them. We cannot get them to work during the election, neither freemen nor non-freemen. But you say the non-freemen were not paid P—They were not, only for the days they worked. • G r an you tell us lrow many non-freemen were off work ? The fact is, they were all of work. And then Mr: SPliee told you to select the freemen; and to allow.the freemen the day's wages ?—Yes. But you had no instructions to allow it to the non-freemen?— No. Did you in point of fact, allow it to any but the freemen ? I did not. Do you remember paying a shot at a public house that week ? I did not pay it that week. • A 'shot means a score for drink ?-L-Yes. Have you got a note of that?—l have; it is £l. 1832, Dec. 12th, to ale, spirits, &c. ]Os. The 13th, to ditto ditto, 10s. 'Were those the two days of the election ?—Yes, they were. By whose desire did - you pay that?—Mr. James M'Kee, the son of Mr. M`Kee. Were you at the public house before you paid it ?—Never. I did not actually pay it; I received. the bill from hint, and I deducted it in the account. Are there ally apprentices in your establishment?—There are. Were they employed during the election ?—They. carried standards. Did von pay them their wages whilst they were carrying standards for the•day they were so occupied ?—Yes; but whe ther they are ill or well, or whether they work'or play, they are always paid their full wages. Did those men vote on the first day or second day ?-0n the first day, I - believe. Did any of them speak to you respecting their votes after wards ?—=Never. Cross-examined by Mr. Boyers. You say you paid this shot 'at a public house. You found the shot standing there against one .of your master's sons?—ldid. You never had any communication with your Master on .this subject?—t nev e r had. Had not you general orders from him, if you found any thing standing out against his sons to discharge it ?—I should do. it williout Mr. ill'Kee's orders.. ' ' ' " " • Did you give any order, - Of Were Volt present when Mr: M'Kee's son gave any, order ?=I teas not; I never gave any order myself. 1?-examined by Mr. Rushton, Am 1 to understand that you paid demands made upon your master's sons without...inquiring into the nature of them ? I should public house scores. When you were told of this debt at the public house, did you inquire what the money was for?—'They told me it was for beer during the election. .• Did they tell you who had the beer ?—lt was fur Mr. APKee's men, but the nen-freemen participated in that beer, as «•ell as the freemen. • Committee.—Who told von that the non-freemen participated in that beer?—l heard it in the yard; they were all drunk. You have about fifty men in the N , ard?—lres. Would ten shillings worth make ail your men drunk ?—I should think not. Then you do not suppose that all the men in the yard had beer for those ten shillings?—Nut all of them; but the greatest part of them. Will teu shillings make forty :men drunk in Liverpool ? think not. Do you think ten shillings will make seven men drunk.—l should think not. Do you suppose that those seven men.voted contrary to their wishes because they received. those four shillings a piece.—l cannot say whether they did . or did no,. I did not interfere in anv way.—The witness then withdrew. • • PETER FELTox was called in and examined by Mr. Rushton as follows : • You were. employed as a messenger at Sir Howard Douglas' committee-room P—l was. • . . , Did you communicate ;between the central committee and any district committee?—l• did; I was the messenger between Toxteth-park amkthe.Royal Hotel. • . • 1)o you know who ttie treasurer of Sir.. Howard Douglas' committee was P—No. Did you see Mr. Dempsy there ?—No. Did you ever see Mr. Ok:11 there ?—1 did. Do you remember being in the district committee-room on the second day P—l do. Do you remember the -canvassers of Sir Howard Douglas coming in - • Do you remember any communication they made to the com mittee P—l do. Whaat was the nature of it ?—That the freemen bad refused to come up, unless they were remunerated for their loss of time. Committee.—How do you know that they, were canvassers ? I was informed that they were. So. Air. Rushtm..--Were you in the committee-room at the time? —I was. Did they corrx into the committee-room ?—They did. Did they wear any colours ?--Therdid; blue and red. Do you remember the afternoon of the second day ?-1 7 es. Did - you see any freemen in the committee-room on the after noon of that day ?—I did. •Were those men drunk or sober ?—The . greater part of them were drunk. Do you remember a man being brought up that. afternoon that wore a jacket and trowsers ?—There were a great many. Do you recollect one particularly ?-1 remember one par ticularly at the booth. . V. - hat occasioued•3•ou to recollect him ?—I-re was very much intoxicated, and he said by :could, not vote unless he lind two sovereigns. Did he go to vote there?—lle voted after Wards. Did you seo • what took place before lie voted?—Yes; he went round with some gentlemen, and came back with money in his hand. Do you know who those gentlemen were ?—No. He went round where ?—Behind the booth. Did you see him come back with money in his hand P—l . did. Have you any doubt, that he bad money ?—No; because woman that was drunk with him, that I took to be his wife, wanted him to give it up.. Was the bribery oath being administered at this time ?—lt had been abOut au hour previous to that. Did you see the man. vote ?—I did. Did you hear for whom he voted ?—Sandon.and Douglas. Were you the bearer of correspondence between the two com mittee-rooms ?—Yes. • . Who were the parties ihat carried on that correspondence ? Mr. Fletcher and Mr. Peter Wright. Do you know Mr. Fletcher's Christian }same ?—I do not. Do you know his occupation ?—A timber merchant. Was Mr. Peter Wright the law agent of . Sir Howard Douglas ?—I believe so. • Do you remember seeing Mr. Alexander Smith ?—I recol lect a man of the name of Smith. Have you seen Mr. Wright since that-?—1 have not. Did you see Mr. Thistleton there ?—I did, On the second day was the district cominittee-room open, to both parties was. . . Did men come into the committee-room with red ribbons as well as with blue ribbons ?—Yes, both parties. . . Did you hear Mr. Thistleton say any thing there respecting the. voters?—No. In your visits to the committee-moth did you see any money on the table ?—I-did. • . What sort of moue); ?—Gold. What quantity of money ?—I cannot say exactly. Was it in sovereigns ?—:lt was. • Was it a large quantity or a small quantity ?—A considerable sum, perhaps 'to or £3O. Were the-voters brouo;lit into that committee-rota - xi before they polled ?—They were. Did you see any box there ?—Yes. What was the box made of ?—The box contained the money. Was it a tin box ?—I think it was. Was there money - on the table - be Sides the money in the box ? —None. •• At which committee-room did you see this money ?—At the general committee-room in Dale-street. Were the voters brought into that committee-room before they polled ?—No ;. the sub-committee-rooms. • You have said you saw 140 or £3O in .sovereigns upon the table in the general committee-room ; was that money in a box ? —Yes. And that boX was on a table ?Yes. • Committee.—Did you see money in any other room besides that room ?—No. Mt-. Rush ton. You told nie that you saw Mr. Thistleton ; did you hear Mr. Thistleton say any thing about ropers or so ?—Yes, that they would not cease up till after the afternoon, and they would have plenty then. Was any thing said, about amajority ?—No. They would have plenty of what ?—Plenty of ropers there. Was there any treating in •the district committee-room, that you saw. in the district committee-room ?—Yes. There was there ?—Yes.. • What was it?—The men asked for. something to drink, and they were ordered down stairs into the kitchen. Did you see them get any thing ?-1 diu. Were those men voters ?-:They *ere. Do you remember any thing being said about Mr. Smith there ?—No.- • Were any freemen's wives there ?—Yes. Were they drinking as well as the free Men ?—Yes. They were drinking as well as the freemen ?—They were drinking all together. Cross-examined by Mr. Rogers. You have spoken of-two committee-rooms, the general com mittee-room and the sub-committee-room; where was the ge neral committee-room !&—ln the•ltoyai Hotel. • In what part of the house ?—ln the parlour. Whereabouts.?—Facing the street on the grouhd-floor. Is the Royal Hotel, in .Dale-street the best of my re collection it is; it is the new Hotel. • - You have spoken of a canvassing conunittee•rooin, where was that ?—At Toxteth-park. How far was Toxteth-park from the Royal hotel ?—A mile and a half. Was it in the general committee-room or the canvassing com mittee-room that you saw this box with 20 or'3o'sovcreigns ? At the general committee-room. Where was this box placed.?-0n a table.': • At what part of the . table ?—I cannot say exactly. Was it at the top or the bottom ?—lt was u 1 i3fi the top of the table. At the top of the table or the bottom ?-1 . do riot know which was the upper end of the table. Did you count the sovereigns ?—No. What makes you say that there were twenty or thirty ?—I thought there was as much. And you do not recollect on what part of the table the box stood ?—No. • What sized box was it ?---About the size of that book. Are you acquainted with merchants' counting-houses ?—No. Did it look like the cash-box of a merchants' counting-house ? —I cannot tell. Ilow deep was it?—That I did not measure. Cannot you tell about how deep it was ?—No, I cannot. Was it a foot or a quarter of a foot deep.—lt was less than a quarter of a foot. flow long.were you in the room and how many times did you see the box ?—Six or eight times. You came in to receive orders and went out again ?—Yes,. I was taking packages uud parcels baiik. Whilst you were there did •you'see any thing taken out of this, box ?—I did n0t,..1 never saw any thing paid. • • You haye stated that there was a man very drunk, and that he went behind the hooth, and when he returned you saw mu nay in his hand; just recollect what there was in his hand ?-1t waN silver. • Was he opening his hand ?—The woman that was with him wanted to take it from him. Was it open ?—She opened it. Did the open it in your presence ?—Ye:, close to Did she open it by force You saw some silver in it ?Yes. Can you tell me how much ?—No!. . Two or three shillings or ten or twelve shillings ?—Perhaps ten or twelve. You do not know but that this man had the money before he went behind the booth?—No, I do not, but from his appearance I do not think he had. It is no uncommon thing for a wife when she sees her husband drunk to wish to take the money from him, you have.seen such an occurrence often happen I dare say ?—I have. •- You were emplgyed for pay, I suppose ?—I was. - • Did you know 4ny thing of this man that you saw ?—No, he was a stranger to foe. When did you first tell any body this s t or y ?—I th oug ht it a laughable circumstance and 1 related it a day or two after wards. You say vou had to carry packages from one committee room to another, were they not returns ?—They were generally sealed. And what information they contained you do not know ?—No, with the exception of one case, in which Mr. Fletcher wrote upon the back of the returns that the bribery oath was then put. You have stated that a great number of freemen • came into the room, and you 'have stated also that they asked for some thing to drink, and that they were sent down stairs. Now name the name of one freeman ?—nat I cannot. ! ! How did you know that they were freemen ?—/. took them to be freemen from their appearance and from their being brought into the room by the canvassers. But you did not know one of them ?—NO. ! ! And you did not know one of them to he a freeman ?-1 can not swear that. LOCAL. • It may be in the recollection of our readers, that owing to the exertions of Captain John Davies, and the crew of the Grace, the crew and passengers of the Betsy and Peggy, wrecked of Rhydd, on the 4th November, 1831, were saved from destruction. To Mark the sens 3 the inhabitants of that neighbourhood entertain of the humane and intrepid conduct. of Captain Davies, a sub scription Was entered into for the purchase of a cup, which, on hiS return to E ng l an d, Captain Davies was informed of by the following letter from Lord Mostyn : Sin,—Being requested by the subscribers to present to you the accompanying cup as a mark of their approbation for your highly meritorious exertions in the preservation of four seamen,. who were in a state of imminent peril, and would have lost their lives but for the timely assistance of Yourself and your gallant comrades, I pe g to add my personal thanks, and to express in the fullest manner, the sentiments. which I entertain of a con duct so dauntless, geiierous, and becoming the character of a British seaman.-1 remain, Sir, .your obedient and obliged Servant, • Signed, Peitylvern z Sept. 20th, 1832. To Captain Davies, of the ship Grace, Liverpool. RIOSTYN. An honour so worthily obtained we hope the Captain will long enjoy, and we know of no heir-loom more deserving of . transmission to his posterity, than one ,gained by the salvation instead of the • destruction of human life. . . On Friday Mr. Court was appointed to the office of Secretary to the Underwriters' Room, in the 'dace of •Mr. Withers, the .recently.appointed Treasurer to th e Dock Estate. On Saturday. last a young man, genteelly.dressed, was appre hended, in St. John's Market, in the act of picking a lady's pocket. His Majesty has been _graciously plea se d t o gran t a Pl ate of 100 gs out of the Privy Purse, to be run for at •Laneaster. We understand the conoitions are to be the same as .for the Hampton Plate. MAGHULL RACES.-These races commence tomorrow, and from the numerous entries for the plates, which "closed rester day, we anticipate go o d s p or t: N ear ly 70 h o r ses had arrived up to last night, and more are expected this day. LT CEUNI NEWS RooNr.—The applications for nominations to this institution during the past week have b een ver y numerous, considering the high - character of this establishment, and the advantages acciumg from an admissiOn to it, this is no more than might be expected.' - • • MORTALITY IN MANCHESTER.-021 Sunday last, there were no fewer than forty-two funerals at the itusholme-road burial ground in that town. Several animals have 'already been presented to the 'proprietor of the Liverpool Zoological Gardens. There are now upon the grounds two very five wolves, the gift of Mr. Leech, of Carden, an American deer, presented by Mr. Archer, of Mill-street, and a fine eagle, given by Mr, hawdon, of Elm-house. Bur Axic GM:DV-N.—A meeting of the proprietors of .the Botanic Garden was held on Monday last, when resolutions to the following effect were agreed to :—That thq committee should be empowered to raise the requisite funds for proceeding with the new gardens by mortgage on the present grounds;—that the present gardens shalt be opened on' Sunday evenings;— that the band shall play on Thursday evenings as usual, and that no lapsed shares shall be sold under ten guineas. - - SUICIDE.—On Monday, the 15th of April last, a young woman, named Betsey Wallace, who lived as a servant with a family in Everton, was found by a fellow servant lying on:the floor of her room weltering in her blood, proceeding from a wound which she had Meted in her throat. She was conveyed to the Lunatic Asylum, where every attention was paid to her by Mr. Cooper, surgeon to that establishment. She lingered until Sunday morning week, when she was found dead by one of her nurses. ECCLESIASTICAL BUSINESS.—The Rev. Unwin Clarke, M.A. dean of Chester, will hold the usual annual court for this vicinity, for swearing in churchwardens, proving wills, and other ecclesiastical business, in St. Peter's Church, in Liverpool, on Tuesday, the 28th instant, at one o'clock. The following townships are included :—Altcar, Aughton, Bootle, Childwall, Crosby, Everton, Halsall, ,Hale, Huyton, Kirkby, Maghull, Melling, North Moots, Ormskirk, Preseot, Rainfoid, SealOrth, Sepliton, Skelmersdale, Southport, Toxteth, Walton, Waver tree, West Derby, and Woolton. A NEW LIVERPOOL. STEAM PACKET.—AIong with several friends, we had, on Friday, an opportunity of inspecting. the Vulcan steamer, intended to ply between the Broomielaw and. Liverpool ; and we must say, that, so far as excellent accom modation and splendour of finish are concerned, the Vulcan is not excelled by any other packet on the Clyde. The cabin is one of the most elegant it has ever been our fortune to set foot in ; while the other berths, for convenience and comfort, have a most inviting appearance.. The engine, we understand, is somewhere about 170 horses' power. The Vulcan took a plea sure trip down the river on Monday ; and we have been told, to the satisfaction of a genteel party on board, gave -a good fore taste of the speed that may hereafter be expected.—Glasgow Courier. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ST./LVD,IRD. SlR,—The attention of the Directors of the, Mechanics' Institution has been.called to a lettersigupd " Argus," in your paper of Friday last. The Directors will feel obliged by your granting them the privilege of stating to " Argus" and the public, in reply through the medium of your paper, that the Institution over which they preside is not connected in any shape with party,' either political or religious, Politics and coutroversive The ology they have considered it their duty uniformly and care fully to exclude, and have confined their 'efforts td the forma Lion of the object for which the Jnstitution was, established, namely, the diffusion of such scientific and other useful infor; mation as might appear best calculated to afford benefit .to the members in their various avocations. Spiritual affairs and theological differences of opinion they have considered it their duty to leave to those whose peculiar duty it is' to attend to. such matters. , _ - If "Argus" will attend for a few evenings, the "lectures" against which he now rails, he will be convinced that ranee of their nature has led him to oppose' a series of instruc tion-calculated to afford permanent benefit to a class -of the community upon whose industry and propriety of conduct a large portion of the welfare of the town depends, and higniv honourable to the individuals who are engaged in deiivel'iot., , the present admirable courses of lectures. It is true the Directors do hope that the Corporation will grant a site for the intended building, unfettered however by any restrictions, and should the Corporation do this in a liberal and proper spirit, it would undoubtedly increase the , prevalence of a good feeling, so desirable amongst all classes. The new institution' would prove useful to . thousands, and u7timately beteme 'a' Sof:tree pri , le giatiettaticn to all LIN - had led them to eo: tri;;ute tc:witids its erection. - '