The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-02-12 00:00:00

Env orto. WEST INDIES AND MADEIRA. loon, Smith, fm Demerara, with 64 hds 33 brls sugar, s, 80 c and o hides, 24 pns 25 hds 31 brls rum, T and Dk UNITED STATES. Pike, fm New Orleans, with 183 bales cotto A La 1-101 do, Rostron Brothers (Manchester) 4.85 do, —496 order—P Dk s, Craddall, flu Charleston, with 1371 bags cotton, , t and Jessie, M`Kown, fm Charleston, with 824 bale [er-262 do, Buchanan, Laird and co-114 do, R and Sands, Hodgson an d co -101 d o, W Stuart-1 do, —256 do, Maury, Latham and co-52 do, A Gordon der—G Dk BRITISH AMERICA. Goss, fin Newfoundland, with 110 csks cod oil, Son-83 csks seal oil, 5 csks oil dregs, 71 csks cod skins, 6 ts trout, 161 csks cod oil, 1 csk 1 bndle dried wood, It Alsop-58 csks cod oil, 2 cs k s co d bl ubbo l es and skins, Graham and Taylor-29 csks cod oil, l )er oil, 2 csks cod dregs, abt 15 c old junk, Job, Bui," ks cod oil, 5 tes 1 brl salmon, 5 brls caplin, 161 c ow , jun—abt 80 e o ld junk, J Cropper-1 bndl cod fish;, ion, WII Gardner-1 csk 1 bndl ski ns, W Tarbet 4 ts 7 brls salm on , 20 brls herrings, 6 brls core fi s h , 496 pipe staves, Ibx jewellery retd, order—B B 1, Post, fm Mobi SOUTH AMERICA. le, with 520 bales cotton, Waifil co-569 do, Roskell, O g d en and co-300 do, Sands, •-5 do, A Taylor and co—P Dk Wood, fm Savannah, with 541 bales cotton, Bolton', 12 do, M aur y, L at h am and c 0—146 do, W and J 80/ Isaac, Low and co-136 do, Rathbone, Brothers sr er-2500 cane reeds. said Master—P Dk gin, Nang , fm Puerto Cabello, with abt 170 t coppe d co--44 serons indigo, J Kearsley and Son—S Dk umsden, Eyton, fm Puerto Cabello, with abt 133 by and c 0—129 bales cotton, 6 serous indigo, J 1 ; 1 ' a Dk SPAIN AND PORTUGAL. Evans, fin Terceira, with 457 bxs oranges, order' "tears, fin Malaga, with 600 hxs 600 hf hxs 600 qr bsaisins, I 0 lids 50 hxs almonds, 12 hf chsts lemons,' 'ileher-115 bxs 118 hf bxs 1 small es raisins, 20 4 `Laurin-127 hgs shumac, Baring Brothers and es2l dust, 200 qr bxs Muscatel raisins, 48 csks olive 0 ' —1( Dk 7, Gordon, fin 8t Michael's with 560• hxs oranges, 3, J Glynn and Son-1 do, E Rae—li Dk - MEDITERRANEAN. Fry, fm Bmyona, with 16 bls madder roots, J 51`15 Rathbone, Brothers and co-19 sks yellow der roots, W Nerett—l7 do, E H Garston and ' emery stones, order—K Dk Fern, fm Malta, with 734 es 15 hxs oranges, 36 cs d'ombra, 1 cse dried plants, G Yates-2 es orangt 1 co-3 do, W Nicol-1 hl wool, Bernard and co-1 Ibx oranges, Ibx carpets, R F Breed-1 pipe 10, Orr, Robinson and co -2 b xs conts unkn,.l qr „ I Williams, fm Smyr na , w ith 100 b rls madder roo !6 brls red raisins, ISPAndrew and Pileher--3 ,i tbt 15 t emery stones, It Cooke-36 sks yellow bern . 00ts, order—S Dk AFRICA. • !orran, fin Africa, with 700 csks palm oil, abt e fms dunnage wood, C Horsfall, and T Tobin—P 131‘A !ISSELS ENTERED . FOR LOADING. EAST INDIES. 381 James Perkins, P, Batavia UNITED STATES. son, 116 Huskisson, 8, New York n & co, 394 Robert Pulsford, P, New Orleans n & co, 600 Ajax, P, New York ison & co, 281 Havre, Q, City Point,'Si Willis, 340 London, B, Baltimore 363 Mary, K, New Orleans m and co, 540 Hibernia, P, New York I & co, United States, P, Philadelphia ylor BRITISH AMERICA. 315 John Akins, 88, Halifax, N S 163 Ditto; P, - Bay Chaleur 295 Zebulon, Q, Nova Scotia 266 British Tar, B, Newfoundland 95 Albion, 5, Newfoundland SOUTH AMERICA. 237 Abeona, P, Ts, 377 Bashaw, G, Highfield, 131 Lowther, G, Buenos Ayres Havannah B tin-WX;-res SPAIN AND PORTUGAL. 55 Isabella, S, St Michael's rawford, 88 Mary Anderson, G, St Michael's MEDITERRANEAN. 137 Henry, K, Gibraltar s, 234 John Souchay, P, Genoa & Legh EUROPE. 109 A Ifred, S, Cjiarente LOCAL. tIFF FOR 4ANCASIIIRR.—Tuesday's Gazette cl wing announcement :—" The K iug has been appoint Sir John Gerard, Garswood, and of sheriff of the county, palatine of Lancaster, EUTENANT OF THE COUNTY.—The venerable he Earl of. Derby, has appointed William GI g-Side, near Bury, one of his Majesty's Del r the county palatine of Lancaster. AsstzEs.—ln the House of Commons! Ewart gave notice, that on the 25th of M a rc 'r leave to bring in a bill for adjourning ancaster to Manchester. and Liverpool. SIDE.L-The causes will be 0 :19 re following order :---lst. Salford list; 2. !es out of the county ; 3, Lonsdale, Amount n, and Leyland. WitneSses in causes in the rt'at its opening, on Tuesday, the 19th of Mar, ises of the 2d list at th e o p en i ng, on Thuo° hose in the 3d list' at the opening, on the foil' Bfl.L.—Petitions in favour of a Ten Ile° a preparing at Oldham; delegates, commit, is are in full operation in aid of the measure. H.—A meeting of the mayor, magist ra t es , ninisters, & c . was h e ld a few days ago in , Wigan, to take into consideration the propr' )arliament on the subject of the profananoo he Rev. B. Powell was in the Chair. It petition should b e d rawn up, pray i ng that i interfere to promote the better observant aighout the kingdom, and that it should :es of worship, and the news-000rus for signal t, at St. Nicholas's Church, Mr. Henry Bee' ard-office, to Mrs. Mary.Erukell, widow of the bindor, of this town. it, at St. Michael's Church, by the Rev. T. .1(i idie, to Jane•, only daughter of the late, Mr. Ji lustine's Church, E ver t on, M r. J ohn Edin o iss Jane Denison. lam Collenridge, to Miss Mary Luey, daughter my years coachman to th e l a t e Mr. Peter Tyrevj at Shepton Mallet, John Macgregor, Esq.. issell-square, Lond on , ( aut ho r o f " British )ungest daughter of W in . B ear d Jili ard, Esq. at 'Christ's Church, Mr. Edward Griffiths, soli iffiths, of this town, to Ann, eldest daughter , Lord-street. 10th ult., Mr. Lawrence J. Toole, tailor, of enson, formerly of Preston. DIED. Lt, aged 73, Catherine, relict of the late Mr. :on House, in this county, much and deserri It, the . infant son of the Rev. H. T. Turner, the 10th instant, Anne, wife of Mr. Henry u° 1-streets. in her twentieth year, Elizabeth Golding, ww• , Seymour-street. Ted 19, Isaac, only son of Mr. J. Nixon. it the house of her son-in-law, Mr. James Grp Mrs. Barton, aged 74. r. William M'Mahon, of his Majesty's Custoro 4 gin" and severe illness, Mr. Robert Harrison , erly of Bidston, Cheshire. Mat the house of h er son -i n -l aw, M r. Nic hd l rs. Agnes Coutts, in the 83d year of her a an advanced age, much respected, Mrs. A'r 'tree. .) t, at Birmingham, aged 41 years, Margaret, ye, and daughter of the late Mr. Edward Sut Milton-house, near Peterborough, Earl Fitz' ar of his age. His lordship is succeeded in ord Milton, M.P. for Northamptonshire. of a decline, which she bore with great fortit !mei, the wife of Mr. W. Coward, Sidney-stx aged 59, Wm. Carr, Esq., of Shadsworth, ''' m Parlane, Pleasant-street, in the 69th year , in his 24th year, Mr. Thomas Lowry, so/1 4 . Everton. t bi Mrs. Margaret M`Guire, age d 65 years, mo-• insperiat Parliament continued from page 3. a laraities to the account of the church establishment. or totally and entirely abrogating, annulling, render late and of no effect, the Protestant heirarchy in Ire fob , h; °. A 3r, ne trusted, could Misunderstand him. He did his because he should gain anything by its abolition, or tti nuance. He was no parson to receive tithes, amino. L 4 refuse, for conscience' sake to pay them; but he D : t the putting down of that heirarchy was necessary to ' lTl ,ess peace, safety, and renown of Ireland. It could re d no longer with security to the kingdom or the etone. Th ere f ore as a l oya l su bj ec t o f th e King, and a Presentative of the people, he declared his opinion ' Look at the history of the church, and in it they e ,a,d all the great calamities of the country. That church the national debt; it was also the cause of the detesta ieable, an d accurse d septennial bill. To uphold it the f rench war w as undertaken. In short, to maintain it, r .° ‘ - ed by deeds and acts of Parliament, one Kin__. was to th e b lock an d anot h er d r i ven f rom t h e th rone . What :lined next-t o e ff e ct, he left to the gentlemen of that p determine. I.N implored Ministers to abandon all hopes of satisfy lehtl!il people by intimidation. It was easy to lead them, li t a las could bind them. (Hear, hear, hear.) The in 11,1F, tone of his Majesty's speech had already added ten' t ea r wavering members to the ranks of repeal, and he th Ministers that their first measure of coercion would k a t number. (Hear, hear.) " I detest civil war," said e joenaber ; but the line of toleration may be passed, 4 inle may come when I shall consider resistance to sp not only my right but my duty." (Hear, hear.) i that thought the state of Ireland loudly de f toat a strong arm should be interposed for the pur 11131,'eserving property and maintaining order. If the li a , '''' p.cdg e d the house to grant those powers, without ime time pledging them. to a redress of grievances, he Fil at t , he should have been unable to give it his support; cl ue looked at the words of the speech, and saw the dis- Z4ltaration made on the subject of the Irish church, he lit th deny to the address his most cordial support. He flb l y ~,lt Niinisters were entitled at the commencement of (ill ' a few days credit' Ile had no doubt that their 'y . 4 1 4easuies, when brought forward, would Prove satis- Il e h i BERT PEEL approved of the mode in which the King's I%,„', (l lheen - drawn up. He was glad that the example of d i ; r il 'ean President had not . been followed . . The King's °lad not enter into details, but rather indicate the ge -1 to`eetions of the Goveinment, and leave it to the Legis % n Pronounce whether those intentions were foundeu in 4i,, 4 not. He would confine his remarks to a few only of to t i mentioned in the Speech, because it was of conse- I a r a t as littie time as possible should be used in debate.. inVillieti parliament, the people expected something „, b _ better than.lengthened and unprintable harangues. eiveljt said that his situation in the house was changed; he it . ,„ u t few supporters, instead of being backed by large ii i f'• If any alteration in his opinions should De dis • . e trusted - that such alteration would not be attributed ~ e: T en his part to court any party. There were three i t.. 0 ol his Majesty's Sp eec h upon which he felt himself express hi s opinions : those were reform of the church, puittity of Ireland, and the maintenance of the Legis ,, iii °n• T. thiti; eclusivelv, he felt himself bound to With respect to the first of these subjects—the church `Majesty' s Speech called their particular attention to it, i ,"`ed that it s re venues would permit of a more equitable ti etl• He would carefully scrutinize ,the measures of teem in relation to the proposed reform of the church, I Pt°4o uneing any opinion on the subject. But he would Olaintain, that the •Churches of Ireland and En gland ~' same; and he trusted that the words " separate con -11," in the Speech, did not mean to imply that there d issolution of the interests of the two churches. He i th,at bv those words were not meant that the property of s q Chur c h s h ou ld b e meddled with. He trusted that the ary f or Ireland was fully aware of the ruin he was about if he c on t em pl a t e d t ouc hing or disturbing, in any way, % ,,Perty of the Irish church. he would now approach the rlslieting subject of all—the measures required. for repres- Loider in Ireland. It was not the mass of the Irish peo go 'were to be coerced. No, it was only that portion who iftientioned with execration by one aild all of the Irish : e ts, and who not only attacked and barricaded the man i",` the rich, but applied the torch to the cabins of the poor. dto protect the Irish people that extraordin ar y p owers e manded, and more particularly to protect the humbler , since it was th e y w h o su ff ere d - most from the tyranny teed by the wretches who set all law at defiance. Those aid ob e di ence to the l aws o f t h e i r country were pun i s h e d doi ng ; and the legislature ought at least, in return for allegiance to afford them the amplest protection. The was call e d upon t o f rame a l aw by . which. those who were ,fight he prot e cted. When midnight murder and hourly ~',l l; a t ion awaited the loyal subject, it was time that every "citt sho u ld b e gran ted hi m . (Hear, hear, 'hear.) He a r i e to the most important question, the repeal of the totisi es y t e io u n n n io o n ui He was resolved, in common, as he hoped, great majoiity 'of the house, tom aintain that union Pin- That union . was based upon a fundamental law ; and was; whether the law should be abrogated. union of England and Ireland was the law and contract e nthe two nations. That contract was made by the peo euiselves through their representatives in Parliament. • It e law under which they now sat in that house as the re -I,ltatives of both co untries, and to legislate for them. He lit that th e time was now come when Parliament was hn iyely called upon to take early steps to have the question e repeal o f the union brought before them, and finally de itliert it. Why did not those who had been fOr two . )rears lllg the country with the que stion of the repeal, now bring j I I' a motion on t h e subject?' (Cheers from Mr. O'Con- He beg ge d to assure M r. O'C onne ll, that nothin g was er from his w i s h t h an to get over this point by appealin g i e s passions of the members; he wished, step by step, to ex theadoration; arP stobe rollg , - Mein. ght that Parliament was the proper place to take into ••it • and he begged to ask why it was not brought rcl last session?: Was it on account of the reform clues- I Was it for fear of agitating - Parliament ? It could not tthat account . for Mr. O'Connell had agitated the whole `„ r Y on the subject; he had appealed to the people by all ',,otives most likely to arouse them—by their love of coun p'. their religion —and by the almost-forgotten times when 0. a Parliament in Dutilin. (No, uo ! from Mr. O'Con ) He had certainly see n a report of a speech which pur 1, to be Mr. O'Connell's, in which he was made to say, te.hoped to see the day when the Irish Parliament would itti ng in its ancient seat. Why did not Mr. O'Connell f orward the repeal of• the union in Parliament? He (Sir [ l. i se e el) certainly would not maintain the union merely be st was in existence at present, though that might be an g ee nlent to prevent his wishing for a change without good : The question now was, not whether there . had been thatmis tient in Ireland—there might bel truth in the assertion, i _ country had grievances to complain of—hut the ques t was, whether there was 'a disposition on the part of British Parliament to do justice to that country ? That was t °lll y question to which they - had to look; and he hoped, pi considering it, they would not recur to those grievances i ' . t Were now past, and should be forgotten. He hoped that, 4 11 1? time, they would merge all questions connected only LIL s t ne n e e l n a s o t , w a t n h d er t e h w at as th n e ti v t Nv s ou ery ld look forward to the future, disposition to do justice to 4 1 ud, without having recourse to such a measure. For his , Part, he said candidly, that if he were satisfied that a 're- T I ° F the - 're fire _, union would improve the social state of . the people ias ar ' l4 , he would'not only not offer any obstructions to that t g o F , but he wou ld give iris assistance to have it carried; f ar,... was lie from b e i ng sat i s fi e d t h a t the condition of Ire -41":1)1•11d'be impro ve d, t h at he felt assure d it would tend to o th it ' of both countries. (Hear hear! and loud applause.) tlai n r eqiect to the foreign policy of government, there was W as ! ill the speech to which he could not give a ready assent. th e 'ngular, indeed, that so little had been said in the course th e or 4 e,bate Upon that subect. He cordially concurred in the N . ~'lis Majesty that tranquil!ity should be restored in POr sed i , Ile people of Portugal had been so infatuated, he sap ea ~‘• would b e said, as to prefer Miguel to Pedro, and had i4eiteithful to him for five years.. According to 'the Whig O t te., that the choice of the people is to be respected, sure- L e l e 'us time, the choice of the people of Portugal. had been d c „ 11 ...t1Y evinced. And he thought, that seeing that choice ty 4 4 ,,,0ued. for five years steadily in his favour, it was the. It ol : c r•gland to recognize him as the King of Portugal. city ~ert maintained that the government had acted as a e a e „ a ge,,inst, not as a faithful ally of the King of Holland. he e ",, r , l eg our right to lay an embargo upon Dutch vessels. e a r „ "as nothing, however, in the address which pledged him to W 4rovai of the forei , ru policy of the ministry. - - When he Id'' ''„ lesition on the part of ministers to preserve property ii,..f s ta lish order, he would throw away all natty views. Dul d P'Pectati ons had been formed, which in three months , e w tirst, and s h ow th e general delusion which had prevailed. fri en d as o insi ncere conver t to reform—no conformer—he was Pare to gradual, temperate reform. There were, he was 'Do s e n r o means of governing this country but through the t ba i r :l Coramon s; and therefore he,humble as he was, de e li i u to st an d i n defence of law and order—in defence of ug . ' throne, and the security of the Empire—from mo- THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. CORRESPONDENCE. MR. BOOTH'S "FREE. TRADE, AND ITS EFFECTS ON THE PEOPLE." TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STrINDARD. Sir,—l now resume the consideration of Mr. Booth's pam phlet. In my last letter I discussed the question of Timber duties; the next in order is the preSumed protection afforded to our Sugar and Coffee colonies, and our other possessions in the East and West Indies. That these are entitled to protec tion it will not be difficult to prove; while, I regret to say, that as far as the great staple, Sugar, is concerned, that protection is more nominal than real.. When the home market was de pendent on the old colonies for supply, that supply did not ex ceed the consumption, and fair remunerating prices were paid to the Planters in consideration of the restrictions they were then placed under, now chiefly withdrawn; these restrictions obliged them'to - send all their produce to tfle mother country, and to receive all their stores and supplies from the same - quarter. When the conquered colonies were ceded to us, their produce was admitted here on similar terms; in consequence, the supply exceeded the honie consumption, and a'considerable annual surplus has since then been left over for exportation, the prices obtained for which hi the Foreign market necessa rily govern those of the whole importation in the home, and thereby renders nugatory the protection it was the. intention of the Legislature to give. The 'Want of this protection is severely felt by the. Planters, subjected as they now are, with greatly reduced returns, to increased expence, in order to satisfy public opinion; and also to restricted labour from their people, such as does not exist in the Foreign colonies with which they are obliged to compete in other markets. The advantages reaped by the mother country from her inter course with the Sugar colonies, haVe been often and ably stated by others, who were more competent than I am to do so :—when the extensive tonnage, and seamen employed by them are added to those occupied in the British Colonial Timber trade, I believe they will be fOund to amount to nearly one half of the whole commercial navy of Great Britain. These colonies afford a very extensive and important market for the sale and consumption of our manufactures, and the revenue derived here from the importation of their produce is known to be of great amount; neither could partial supplies of any extent be procured from other quarters, were they to be come necessary, without the public, that is "the people," being subjected to the payment of enormous prices to obtain them.—l think Mr. Booth is ode of those who advocate the early, if not immediate emancipation of the slave's in these, colonies, and Who desire in the interval to put the Planters to increased EN pence, and would further restrict the existing moderate period of slave labour. Can he desire to extinguish altogether the almost hopeless exertions of the Planters, by substituting the produce of slave labour in Foreign 'countries and 'colonies, where the system is pursued with unmitigated severity, and without any prospect being afforded of mitigation or change? Is it for-such an object that lie proposes to admit their produce to our markets without restriction, and to put to eminent hazard the lives of both the Planters and their slaves, with the destruction of the mass of interests interwoven with, and sup ported by our colonial system? If so, where is his humanity, and why is his benevolence asleep? I hope, and I think, that he cannot - be aware of the too probable'resUlts that would thus be produced, and that his philanthrophy may yet step in to awake him,—with that hope I proceed to the next national interest that he considers to require improvement and chauge,=—that is the protection, afforded to our Fisheries. . The encouragement gi' en to our fisheries has ever been held to be a measure -of'sound national policy. Whilst in comparative iofancy they were , fostered by bounties, which, as they ap proached stability, have been gradually withdrawn. Our ablest statesmen have viewed them as a source of. certain and growing wealth; obtained at small expense, affording employment to a large body of tradesmen—" the people—and rearing the har diest race 'of seamen in existence ; these appear to me to be ad vantages of no ordinary degree, and that ought not, for the sake of trying new theories, to be rashly put to hazard—fortunately, in these times of novel experiments, in this case no opening could be found for such. Mr. Booth complains of the duty on foieigii oil, but is it not a dead letter ? when was it paid ? and is it not well known that, on the contrary, "train oil" is occa sionally an article of export to the Dutch and German mar kets ? . The protection afforded to the produce of our mines is the next subject of Mr. Booth's censure, and to support his charges he tells us, that we impose a duty of thirty shillings per ton on foreign iron ; (this duty he again designates a mitigated penalty, because a previous rate was higher;) and adds, that it was equal to 25 per cent. on the value: If he will take the trouble of turn ing to the prices current he will find SWedish bar iron in bond, in London, quoted from £ll 10s. to £l2 10s. per ton, average £l2—on which 30s. duty is 12;4 per cent: . in place of 25. This of itself is of little importance, but it shows the careless man ner in which Mr. Booth provides his facts, and his readiness to seize on such as appear to suit his purpose. For my argument it is immaterial, as our iron trade happens to be independent of such protection : the present price of British bar iron here is about one-half of that required for Swedish in bond; the export is of great magnitude to every market where iron is admitted and the depression from which the trade has been suffering is, not caused by foreign competition in this or other markets, but from an excess of production beyond consumption or demand, and the consequent competition between the iron masters for the supply of the market from their accumulated stocks. It is true, the general quality of our iron is more hard and brittle, and, for certain purposes, less suitable than Swedish and some descriptions of Russian ; but British is also now prepared in the same manner, to a- sufficient extent, and of similar tough quality with the best foreign, which Mr. Booth states to be so essential and important. Neither lead, copper, or tin are no ticed by him; I have, therefore, only to observe that, although lilewise protected by nominal duties, they are also exported to a large extent in the face of foreign competition ; therefore, whilst no market for foreign iron can be found here, - it is like folly to propose the exchange of our manufactures for it. Mr. Booth then proceeds to condemn the system of lower du tieS at which the wines of Portugal were admitted here by treaty, in consideration of the preference given to our woollen and other manufactures on their importation into that king dom; and he bails, as a symptom of the approach of snore liberal principles, the equalization of the duties on foreign wines, by which those of France and Portugal were placed on the Same footing ; this change was made by the preSent government in the first session after their accession to power, and formed a part and parcel of their very novel and far-fa Med budget of finance, which had for its object to repeal Certain taxes, and 'substitute others in their plaCe : of the last this was one, but the whole measure terminated, as is well known, in all but a total failure. Mr. Booth is pleased, rather unfortunately to himself, to congratulate us on this change, .and professes to treat with something like contempt what he thinks proper to call " the fanciful notion, sanctioned by the wisdom of our ancestors;" that is, he adds, "that France would supply us with the pro &ice of her vineyards, but decline taking the produce of our skill and industry in return!" He has not, however, thought proper to tell us (although he must be aware that the wines of France have been admitted to our market for the last eighteen months on the most favoured terms,) what are the l►ranches " of the produce of our skill and industry" that she has agreed, to receive in return ! Are they our cotton goods ? our wool lens ? our silks ? our hardware ? to each he must answer " no !" —to what then does he refer us for evidence of the benefits we reap from this new system of reciprocity ? the wisdom of which,. I for one, as well a's ".our ancestors," am "fanciful" enough to doubt. I hope he will yet inform us. It is true, Mr. Stan ley, the Irish Secretary, and a member of the present Cabinet, in the speech he lately delivered at Lancaster, (which has been so much lauded by some and condemned by others) also affects to congratulate us on the intimate connection we have now formed with France, under his and his colleagues' auspices, but of the benefits derived from it there is a sad lack of evidence; all he had to offer was of a prospective nature, and in the dis tance, for nothing has yet been done : he states, " that undoubt edly after a considerable lapse of time, but in consequence of our liberal conduct," their manufacturers were now petitioning to be permitted to export their silk, that their ministers intended to comply with their wishes, and also to permit the import of British yarn; but he has omitted to tell us when these intentions were to be carried into effect, or to what duties the silk and yarn would then be subject, no doubt, because he did not know. But let us suppose this species of reciprocity to be in action, and that we'give to Mr. Booth and Mr. Stanley the advantage °Lit; we have, then next to consider what we may expect to, reap from it, as a set-off for having abandoned our close inter course and beneficial connection with unfortunate Portugal, our and faithful ally. The time was, when the silk of the south of France was wanted, and when permission to import it would have keen an acceptable concession to the Spitalfield's weavers, the descen dants of the French Hugonots, who found shelter with our " fanciful ancestors," when obliged to fly from France to escape the persecution of the ancestors of our uniform and ancient enemies, now converted into our "liberal allies," and who then introduced that manufacture here; but, fortunately, we have now got new sources of supply, and the means for obtaining them in our own hands; these are abundant from our posses sions in India, and have been followed by the existing great extension of this branch of manufacture, affording employment to many thousands of operatives in this and the adjoining county, who, by their skill and ingenuity, rival the goods of their French opponents in the foreign markets; and while the trade is advancing here without the aid of French silk, (ex ,ported as a boon by Mr. Stanley,) it is known to be sinking and retrograding there. Next as to our yarns :—the export of them is considered by our weavers as but one step removed from that of the raw material itself; and I ask, have not the operative weavers of cotton in this county, no inconsiderable body, but forming at least a proportion of "the people," whom Mr. Booth has so courteously volunteered to take under his wing, repeatedly petitioned the legislature to forbid the expor tation of cotton yarn, as a business most injurious to their in dustry and interests ? I thus throw back these congratulations, on their authors, as affording matter for their renewed consi deration. I would now proceed to consider the next object of Mr. Booth's attack, but having already exceeded the bounds of an ordinary letter, I shall postpone doing so for a few days, when I intend again to request access to your columns.—Yours, Feb. 8, 1833. MERCATOR. A NEW SUBDIVISION , OF THE " HONOURABLE HOUSE," TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STAND.IRD. " Well, 'tis amazing I declare HoW folks may be mistaken." Stn,—l have been, I confess, formerly among the number of those who believed that our legislators were generally chosen from aniong well educated, clever, sensible men,—men of pro-. bity and honour, but reform has taught me that the belief was an erroneous one, that I was mistaken in my opinion, nay, Mr., Editor, I declare, that since I have been made a ten-pound elector, I have myself been bitten with the cacoethes of legisla tion, and I verily believe, that though only a three-and-ten: penny, I should make as good a parliamerit.man as .ever figured in St. Stephen's, but as that at present (whatever may happen at afuture day) is out of the question, the elections being all finished, and I not chosen : I shall endeavour to make up for my loss in the house by giving a little advice out of it. Heretofore, I believe, the House of Commons has been con-. sidered as divided into two parties, viz., Whigs and Tories— men who occupy the treasury benches, or who sit on the oppo sition benches, or, in other words, those who are in office, and, those who are out of office. Now, I find, Mr. Editor, that our reformed house will be composed of various parties—Whigs and Tories, Conservatives and Destructives, Radicals and Re paters, moderate Reformers and conditional Repaltrs, &c., &c. Now, Sir, I would strongly recommend that a few benches should be elevated in some conspicuous part of the house to be occupied by those only who have signalized themselves, not as makers of the laws, but as breakers of the laws. Among the foremost of these I would place that man, who, at a late dinner given to him by his constituents could boast, that*" by the ad vice of his counsel he thought it preferable to visit.the hospit able shores of France at his own expense, than subject his country to the expense of transporting him'to the inhoipitable shores of Botany Bay ;". and who could mention as a curious coincidence, "that on the 24th of December, 1819, he was pro claimed by the Sheriff, at the Cross of, Edinburgh, a rebel and an outlaw : on the same day of December, 1832, he was pro claimed by the same Sheriff the chosen representative of the people of D—." Surely, Mr. Editor, it will not be conildered uncharitable in me, if I express a hope, that the coincidence may be carried still further, and that at some other meeting, that same Sheriff may preside over the destinies of the honour able member which may give him a much higher exaltation. Is there among them any man who has been before a tribunal of his country, to answer, for the charitable intention of easing some unfortunate gentleman of any superfluous articles that may encumber his person ? him I would place upon these honourable benches. Is there a man,p.nlongst them who has been' formerly expelled the House for some extraordinary stroke of policy dis played in mine bargaining? him, also, I would furnish with a seat up:in those honourable' benches. And, though not in his person, is there a man who could boast that any of his .proge, nitors had furnished that unfashionable article the pillory with a subject, he, also, should have place among these worthies. My worthy friend the member for o****m, although, I believe, an old jail bird, I have rather too good an opinion of those to plade him in this honourable list. I think he would be well employed in watching the movements of the big beggar man and his tail, and if he does not cut up the "wild merriment youths" who compose the said tail, and keep the great head in check, he is not the man I take him for, and I shall be again mistaken.— Yours, &c., QUIZ. ROBBERY BY A SERVANT.-011 Thursday morning week, Ann. Hall, servant to Mrs. Bayley in Great Ancoats-street, absconded from the house of her mistress, taking with her ah elegant silk cloak, a bonnet, and various other articles of wearing apparel belonging to her mistress.. As soon as the loss was discovered inquiries were made,' and it was ascertained that the girl had gone to Liverpool by the railway about five minutes beicre the person in search of her arrived at the station ; inforniati()n waa consequently given to the Liverpool police, and on Monday khe. was apprehended at a public house in the noighbourflood of Williamson-square, dressed in her mistress's clothes. She wad brought before the magistrates atAhe New Bailey on TueAtt 57 . 7-I% \ a nd committed for trial. ) ; • E N, Lives as independent as governed any member of the most libe ral opinions, and representing the 'largest constituency in the kingdom. (Long-continued cheering.) Mr. RUTHVEN—" Sir, agreeing with the honourable member for Dublin in all the sentiments he has expressed, I shall not take up time by dilating at length upon them, but refer more particularly to what has been offered to our consideration by the other side of the House. The King's speech conveys feel ings towards Ireland • which no Irishman, who entertains the same feelings towards Ireland that I do, can hear without dis satisfaction. (Loud 'cheers.) Ministers know nothing of Ire land; Is it - through policemen.? Is it through placemen? Is it through the creatures of government, who live in subordinate .placei, or, what is Worse, in the expectation of places ? Is it to be expected that through such polluted sources Englishmen will ever have that plain and unvarnished character of - Ireland which ought to be had by all impartial minds? (Hear.) Let not the house imagine the government want these extraordinary powers merely for the sake of imprisoninga few unfortunate Whitefeet or Blackfeet. No, what I fear is, that they wish to lay hands upon those who put themselves forward in defence of their country, under pretence of being disturbers of the public peace."' Mr. D. BnowNE said he had listened with great attention, but had heard nothing to induce him to support the amend ment. There was great inconsistency in the. gentlemen oppo site, because, though they all seemed to feel the. evils of their country, they ascribed. them to different causes, and proposed essentially different remedies. (Hear.) He knew penal laws never attacehed a poeple to the government; but when the exi gency of the times demanded it, ministers ought to adopt all measures for the preservation of the public tranquillity. He should support the address. (Hear.) Mr. RounKE said that the policy of ministers was inconsist ent every where. He would have readily voted with them for coercive measures, if they had promised to try conciliation first. Mr. Pii,a Eft (member for Bodmin) said he could not reconcile it to his sense of dury to vote on this question without stating the reason on which his decision was founded. If he did not feel satisfied that something remedial was instantly to be adopted towards Ireland, he would not go hand in harid with ministers —he would long hesitate before acceding to the proposed coer cion; but believing on his soul and honour that the one was as necessary in its present state as the other to its future peace, he felt himself bound to support ministers in their intended mea sures. He did not: form his judgment on the state of Ireland by the reports of newspapers, but on the evidence of the hon. and Iparned gentleman (hear, from Mr O'Connell) and the friends who surround him ; and in that evidence there was enotigh to satisfy him of the correctness of the vote he pur posed to give. (Cheers.) In much that had been stated by the hon. and - learned member for Dubin, and the lion. member for Waterford, he fully concurred, for Ireland undoubtedly was suffering nnder many wrongs which loudly called upon them to use every practicable endeavour to remove. (Hear.) The grand. jury laws, the assessments, church cess, and many other things, were evils—which required an earls' and proper revision. Taxed as that country was for a church she did not approve— every half-starved peasant having something wrung from him for it, he felt that palliative measures could not be too soon applied. He (Mr. P.) had already admitted the existence of alarming evils ; but whilst he made that admission, he must not be supposed as in the re motest degree attributing them to the present ministers, (Cheers.) He could not agree that the accumulated ills of ages—the wrongs . and in sults and injuries of centuries—could be redressed by any ministry of two years' standing. (Loud cheers,) From the evidence of all par ties it was evident that decisive measures were. necessary. The law was a (lead letter. (Hear, hear 1) Under the present frightful state of affairs, the rich man was set against the poor man—the Protestant against the Catholic—and friend against friend. What was babe donel Do justice, he said. (Loud cheers.) Alas! this was not the work 'of , a minute—not the work of months, after centuries of misrule. (Hear; hear I) What then was to be done in the meantime ? Was the mid.. night murderer and incendiary to stalk abroad unheeded and unpii, nished ? (Cheers.) No : life, property, must be openly protected and vindicated, and if the government was not strong enough, ampler powers must be conceded to them ; (hear, hear!) and that, it should . be recollected, was solely done, ne quid (kb-in:call respublica capered (Much cheering.) Mr. ItoTcit complained that all other subjects were forgotten except the state of Ireland. He made a few remarks on the investi gation into the Poor-laws, which had been lately made, and expressed his belief that the Church would be amended and preserved. Colonel TOERENS said, that the Address stated either too much, or not enough. The country , was in a state of great suffering, and expected much from a Reformed Parliament. No mention of the distresses of the People was made in the Address, and he should not therefore vote for it. With regard to Ireland, the Catholic Relief Bill had been made a dead letter; no Catholic was admitted into the Cabinet. He did not believe that the introduction of capital would benefit Ireland : it would produce an improved system of agriculture, and throw ninny labourers out of employ. Mr. BRISCOE would support the Address, trusting to the pledge of Ministers that remedial measures for Ireland should at once be adopted. Mr. O'Dwyer called upon Mr. Stanley to say at once what he meant to do with the Church,—whether he meant to spare or destroy , it. He hail called for " war to the death :" Charles the Tenth and the King of Holland had done the same, and what was the consequence ? Mr. STANLEY started up, and strongly denied that he had made use of the expression war to the death—"l 'said that I would resist to the death the Repeal of the Union ; considering it equivalent to a dismem berment of the empire." Mr. O'DWYER said he would make Mr. Stanley a present of his ex planation. He could not, from the obtasity of his Hibernian intellect, lie supposed, understand the distinction. He would dare to tell the truth. The prisons in Ireland were already too full to hold the offend ers.. There were more prosecutions for libel than in the time of Sir Robert Peel. Sir R. PEEL—" There were none in my time." Mr. O'Dwynn—" lam glad to hear it. I only wish the honourable baronet would forego the tranquil enjoyments of English society, and again come amongst us—for any change would be for the better." Dr. LusHINGTON regretted the menacing tone which the Irish mem bers had assumed in this debate. He wished to know whether Mr. O'Dwyer adhered to the expression which he had used about destroy- . ing the Protestant Church.' Mr. O'DWYER said he;meant interference with its temporalities, when he spoke of interfering with the Protestant Church. Dr. LIJSIIINGTON thought the explanation as unsatisfactory as the original expression. He had thought that when Catholic members entered that house, the following words which they subscribed made a deep impression :—" And I do hereby disclaim, disavow, and solemnly abjure any intention to subvert the present Church establishment, as settled by law." (Hear ! from Mr. O'Connell.) After that cheer, he might read on—" And I do solemnly, in the presence of God, profess, testify, and declare, that I do make this declaration, and every part thereof, in the plain and ordinary sense, without any evasion, equivo cation, or mental reservation." (Hear, hear! from Mr. O'Connell.) If the hon. and learned gentleman supposed that by his ejaculation he Could for one single instant intimidate him from the straight path of his duty,—if he supposed that he could be a prime agitator here,—if he thought that that character could be assumed by him with the con sent even of a petty minority of the house, he would find himself egre giously mistaken. (Cheers from all sides,) Mr. WALTER agreed with that part of the address which related to the union with Ireland. He would ever strenuously oppose a separa tiOn. The speech was menacing. it was said ; - but menaces • ought to be employed against the violators of the law. He regretted that there should be any division amongst the friends of reforni, but trusted that ministers would prove, by their perseverauce•in their former line of conduct, that they deserved the confidence of the country. Mr. M. O'CONNELL complained warmly of the want of courtesy, towards a new member of that house, exhibited in the tone in which the hon. and learned gentleman (Dr. Lushington) had spoken of the member for Drogheda, and of the manner in which that learned gen tleman had laboured to put an overstained construction , oh the oat. taken by Catholic members. He ridicUled the idea that the oath pre cluded those members from settling by law the temporalities of the . Established Church. The oath should not be interpreted too strictly, by one who had so long maintained the opinion that the Coronation oath should not interfere with the relief of Catholics, and who had so repeatedly taken the Oath of Supremacy, and sworn that no foreign potentate .. had any spiritual jurisdiction in this realm—an assertion which was not strictly true. Mr. SIIA,w expressed his sense of the injustice of the complaint so often made, that Irish members or Irish affairs were not attended to in that House; and bore testimony to the uniform courtesy with which such discussions were always treated. The government was justified in the introduction of strong measures, and it was their duty, for they could not otherwise preserve the peace of that country. The Irish complained of absentees ; but how were they endeavouring to remedy the evils of absenteeism by forcing the resident gentry to become absentees. Murders and outrages were of daily. occurrence in the country. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear, hear.") TA valued friend of his had written that he would be with him on a particular day—that day he was murdered. Though he did not agree in the general policy of the government, he felt it his duty to support them in this instance ; for unless the government were invested with those powers, and exercised them with determination, he feared that the slender thread which connected both countries might soon he severed. _ ....... Mr. WALKER said, that the hon. and learned member for Dublin University had exhibited proofs of individual suffering from the mob ; but he could state more apalling facts of suffering from the constituted authorities--of cruelty on the part of the police and injustice on . the part of magistrates. Three distinct cases had come under his own observation which he related, wherein policeinen had been brought to trial for wanton murder ; in the first case the convict was pardoned by the executive, and is still in the police : in the second the grand jury i,, , mored the bill ; and in the third an innocent man was tried instead Of the offender. In all three cases the guilt was clear ; but party spirit saved the murderers : how, then, could the Irish be at peace, or have any confidence in the law ? Let those who wondered at the alleged ferocity of the Irish character think of the provocation, These cases, however, had occurred before the present ministry came into power. (Hear!) Mr. F. O'CONNOR confirmed the statement of the hon. member for Wexford. Capt. YORKE said he had heard enough from the Irish members themselves to show that additional power was necessary to protect the Peaceful and the loyal ; and so far lie would grant that power. (Loud cries of " Divide, divide," " Withdraw, "Adjourn," No, no," &c.) Mr. EMERSON TENANT said he, was convinced that the speech would give gratification to the whole province of which he was a native ; and ho had no hesit a ti on i n v oti n g for the address. Several members rose, but the cries of " Divide," " Question," " Withdr aw ," b ecame so overpowering, that they were compelled to sit down. The gallery was then cleared, and the - house divided. • For Mr. O'Connell's amendment . 40 Against it 428 Majority for the addresss 3BB Mr. Tennyson's amendment was then moved, and seconded by Mr. Hume. After a few words from Lord Althorp, the house divided. For the amendment ' 6O Against it Majority for ministers 333 ADJOURNED AT TIIIZEP. O'CLOCK.