The Sun. — London, England, 1817-11-05 00:00:00

'ROGER, O'CONNOR, Est. Q. Did von, ,on the 2d of October, 1812, on tile d y before or after, see the prisoner at the bar ?—A. Most sole. •I.IY, Q. Neither alone nor in company ?—A. Never ~....never with any party ; nor did I receive him or any party oh that day or night, at the gate or else where, or at any time prior to the robbery, or at attv time or place after the robbery. 0. Do you know, of your own knowledge, of 2U`Keon's meeting that luau ?—A. I do not. Q. Did you conduct him, or any party of rob bers, to a place called Saint's Island ?—A. I never heard it called Saint's Island till lately ; since this charge was made I called it the Young Plantation, but neither there nor elsewhere did I ever conduct any party. Q. Were you ever present at any hour, place, or time, where there was any division of booty of the robbery of the Galway Mail-coach, or of any other plunder ?—A. I never was, at any time or place whatever. Q. Now, by virtue of your oath, solemnly be fore your God arid the world, are those informa tions which you have heard read this day, and of which this is in attested copy, true or false ? A. Solemnly, before God and the world, they are utterly false. Cross-exambzed by Mr. GOOLD. Q. Pray, Mr. O'Connor, of what religion are you ?—A. What religion ! Q. Yes, Sir, what religion are you of fancy that will puzzle me. Q, What ! to ask you what religion you are of will puzzle you ! Do you give we to under stand, that that answer is to be recorded ?—A. If you mean what sect I am. Q. I ask you again, Sir, of what religion are you—do you believe in a Sopreme Being ?—A. I believe there is a Supreme Being. You believe in the existence of a God—then, Sir, of what religion are you? I have asked you that question four times. I am sure it is a plain question ?—A. If you mean sect I will answer you. Q. Are you a Dt•ist ? [Here Mr. M'NALLY interfered, on behalf of his client, to stop this line of examination.] Mr. GooLn.—l would not, for the world of worlds, submit to interruption in my examination. I ask again, Sir, are you a Deist—do you believe in our Saviour Jesus Christ ?—A. I believe, only as an historical fact, that there was such a person. Q. Do you, or do you not, believe in his Di vine Mission, and that he was the Son of God ? A. 1 do not. My Lord, said Mr. O'Connor, I may he sub ject to pains and penalties for answering these questions. 1 have a suit at law, in which the greater part of my property is involved, and these answers may be brought against me at a future day. Judge DALY.—You may safely answer the ques tions. There are no pains or penalties in these countries for the religious opinions of any man. Mr. GOOLD.-4 ask, you again do you believe in the Divine Mission of our Saviour 2 A. I do not ; but I will be a pattern to those who do—by telling the truth. Mr. Goot.D.—Then you believe him to be an impostor) A., I do not ; 1 believe there was such a person, but that he was the dupe to the enthusiasm of his own imagination. Q. Will you then swear on the Old Testament (Great hesitation.) Q. Please to answer me, Mr. O'Connor —...d o you believe that the Old Testament is false and untrue ?—A. I do not believe it true, except as to Historical facts. Q. Then you do not believe in the Divine inter ference of the Almighty God in favour of the people called the Jews ?—A. I do not. Q. By a Juror.—Do you believe there h a God ?—A. I believe in a supreme Power. I, am Difaixiq, * Nov. I —YeSterday 'the Trial came on, s before 't'lle'Cominissinn•r% totirt, of Daniel ITaiin.z, on .3Charge of t'erigrry on the Trial df Mr..o'toNxott, theludieltnerit tOr Mail Rob - - .. bery.—Mr. NVIVALI'Y valet! the Case. sworn extinined. by :Mr. -• • . • Wheredid ytm 'oh the '2a of October, 1812, night the Galway Mail Coach Wst's rtibb'etl:?—A At the Gard.tO.4ronse, to,..fig,m. O'Connor mid, he remembered the mail-hags be' ing found in his - demesne it WSS about S o'cloek in 'the thOrning of 89tiday .t he 4th of October that he was informed of it . ; be iminediatelY repaired 'to the spot ; cannot recollett whether they Were . ' scattered ahofit or not it was a Wet morning, and he had an 'Umbrella Over his head; he de sired them to be taken to has tOn's house, at the stable yai.d. At • tit* o'clock; *hen The labourers and servants came from the Chapel, be had them brought to his - own house-; he could not recollect, at this distance of time, whether be sent an express to Mr. Lees or not, but is per fectly certain that he sent notict to Mr. M'Nah, post-master orSommer-bill, time enough for him to send the account to Mr. Lees by that 'light's post.—On Tuesday his son, who had been at Hal linaske buying cattle, and had arrived in Dublin on Monday from that place, brought him a letter from Mr. Lees, to give the post-bags, up to Mr. M'Nab, of Summer-hill ; Mr. M'Nab came then to Dangan, about four o'clock in the afternoow, and he, his son, and his servants, put every thing .into the cart which Mr. M'Nab had brought, ant , delivered every thing he found to that Gentle. man—and there, .said Mr. O'Connor, ends all l know about it. Q. Do you know the prisoner at the bar ?—A. Ido not. I never saw him before :o know him ; at the trial at Trim, on the its, of August last, I saw his back, but never saw his face before. 'llr. INPNALLY..—Yes, I know you sat in such position that the prisoner's face was turned from you. Witness knew Martin M'Keon, he Whs his wood-ranger. Q. Did you ever send M'lceon with a message to the prisoner ?—A. By virtue of my oath I did not ; I never knew there was such a man in the world. afraid these lirtesfibtss militite, hereafter. Judge Cht.Y.-1 have told you there is no cog tiiiiiree in 'these Courts, P.'orno paint not penal ties Tor a 'tan's religions Opinion. I shall now ask rut a 'few questiOns. - 'there is no doubt but you were tried and acquitted'at Trim. How many infortnations do you think were sworn against -you—were there one, two, or three There was one sworn against me by Michael Owens, and another by the man at the bar. knOw of any Other . I do not of my oWn .knowledge; but I heard, by com mon report, that a ,woman of the name of Dora - Reynolds., otherwise Crosbie, swore informations against me—this I beard in Newgate, but after wards heard that they. were not sworn. Q. How did you discover that ?--=-A. I heard that there was a paper sent up to town, purport ing to be her informations, bor . that she had, told in the country that they were .not s worn to . ; Q Did you read the inforthations of Michael Ovens ?—A. I did; and I think them much stronger, more full, and more circumstantial, than thOse of Warings, I did not harbour a single vindictive thought against these wretches, when I preferred Bills of Indictment against them. Q. You were examined before the County Grand Jury ?—A. I was ; and cross-examined by them, in a manner I did not conceive they were empowered to do. Ca• Yet they threw out the Bills?—A. They did, and more shame for them ; there were, two other witnesses' names on the back of the in dictment, Martin M'Keon and Elinor Bertning-, ham, who must have corroborated my testimony. Q. Who is Elinor Bermingham ?—A. She is sister-in-law to M'Keon ; she is the woman who attends the front gate. Mr. GOOLD.—How long•was M'Keon in your service ?—A. He lived with me as wood-ranger since March, 1812, but he had been a tasker se veral years before. Q. How long was he a tasker I—A. About six years ; he was over the talkers, according to the custom of the country—l, perhaps, would not see him for half a year at a time. Q. When did you first see Michael Owens ? A. The first time I saw him was in the dock at Naas Assizes, in March, 1813, when in custody for this robbery. Q. You never saw him before, although he was in your service ?—A. 1 did not see hint rind} then, although be was working with McKeon. M'Keon had the taskers under Isis immediate inspection, he hired them and !said them, and I had no COM mimicatiop with him—all I wished for was, that the work should be done. Q. How long was he in your service before the Mail robbery ?—A. About nineteen days. Q. How many labourers did you employ?— A. Sometimes eight or ten, and sonv..titnes twenty; I left the choice of them to M`Keon ; I never gave myself any trouble about them ; 1 mind my farm, and all I cared for was, that they should be strong able men, fit for the business. Mr. GOULD.-1 don't doubt you, Sir.' When did you know John Owens ?—A. I never knew be was in existence, until 1 beard he was taken up in March, 11313. Ile never was in my employment. Q. You shewed him acts of kindness then—did you not go bail for him in March last ?—A. Yes, I and my son went bail for him, because 1 knew he was innocent ; there were nine persons who could prove an alibi; he was accused of robbing a man of the name of Geoghegan. I bailed him in March, 1817. Q. Was it not very singular for you to take such an interested part in favour of a man you did not know ?—A. It was not : my disposition is, wherever I can do a kindness I will. Q. By going bail for a rubber ?—A. He was innocent, be was no robber. Q. Did you not hear that he was take - n up for the robbery of the Mail ?—A. 1 did, but he was acquitted. Q. Was not Michael Owens, from the month of February, 1812, to the month. of March, 1813, working with you ?—A. He was, sometimes, but not constantly. Q. Surely you must have been interested for him, when you attended at Naas on his trial ? A. I only attended there to hear, with my own ears, whether that he could be guilty of such a crime. Q. Don't yOu believe him guilty of being at e robbery ?—A. On my oath, I do believe it. Q. There were mail-bags found in the demesne before ?—A. Never before since I came to Dan gan, but there were some found when it was in the possession of Colonel Burroughs, and alsO in Lord Mornington's time. Q. Was there not a robbery in the demesne since your time—do you remember one John Doyle ?—A. There was. Q. I believe he sued the county for the amount, and you gave evidence on the trial %—A. laid ; and they found a verdict in the very teeth df thy testimony. Q. What do you think of that ?—A. I do not think it was much to their honour. Q. And I suppose you think it was not much to the honour of the Grand Jury who ignored the bills the other day, in the teeth of your evidence ? —A. I do, indeed; and the manner they examin ed and cross -exa mined me, was very shameful on their parts. Q. Do you recollect theJnage who presided at Naas at the Spring Assizes, Jsl3 ?—A. I do; it was Judge Fox. Q. You made a speech to him ?—A. I did not make a speech to him. I said a few words in favour of Martin M'Keen, who was in prison, and very ill-treated. The Judge asked was he in dicted : Mr. Rickey replied he was not, and handed the Judge the informations—when, having read them, be said, it was scandalous to confine any man on such informations., and ordered hint to be instantly discharged. I brought him home; he had been double bolted. Q. Were you ever in the County of Cavan ?—A. Never but once, at the Spring Assizes, in March, 1814. I went there at the request of the mother of Michael Owens, who said her son would be hanged, if I did not go and give him a character. She handed me a slip of paper, and begged my pardon for taking the liberty. It was a Crown summons. She begged of me to go and say that I had been acquainted with him, and that he lived a pp lause. MAILS. ARRIVED-1 Dublin. DUE- - 21 - laniburgli, 3 Gottenburgh, Waterford. THE SUN. SOLEM Q(113 MCERE FALSUNI AUDEAT ? LONDON, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1817. THE PRINCESS CIIARLOTTE. CLAREMONT, Wednesday Morning, Eigiil o' Clock The labour of Her Royal Highness the Princess CHARLOTTE is going on very slowly, but, we trust, favourably. M. I3AILLIE, RICHARD CROFT. JOHN SIMS The above Bulletin was issued soon after nine o'clock this morning, and we had received no later intelligence when our Paper was put to pless. LATEST AttEIVAL. FRoMINDIA.--Yesterday the Mary, RITCIIIE, private ship, belonging to Li verpool, arrived in our harbour, direet front Bombay, which plact she left on the 1 Ith June last. The intelligence she brings is, that Pea'ce had been completely re-established in India, and that the Pcshwa and his adherents had &nbmit►ed to the terms offered by the Governor-General.— This vessel is laden entirely with cotton.—(Cork .4dvertiser, Oct. 30-) A Letter from Citiagoa, dated Aug. 28, states, that FLEcn E R AS, from Margaritta, had fallen in with and completely destroyed 20 Spanish vessels, at the mouth of the Oronoko. The demand for manufactured SILK is so great that the price was a(lvanced, at the last sale at the India House, full - ten shillings a pound. Manufacturers of Spiral-fields are in the mos active employment, and can hardly supply the demand. The same bustle and activity prevail at Norwich, and the other manufacturing places, and, indeed, the whole face of the Country wears an aspect of commercial prosperity that is likely to compensate abundantly for all the burthens of a long protracted but necessary War, and the sudden revulsion of Peace, and which promises the full ness of national happiness as the proper reward of national fortitude and perseverance, in a system that has rescued Europe from oppression, and raised the British Empire to a hei4„ht of glom thlit it bad never before attained. IVe refer our Readers to a very interesting al lele in our Paper of this day, which proves how laudably anxious the Admiralty lioarcl are to at tend to the comforts of our great national bul wark, THE NAVY. 'Pip late Lord INIELVILL - F %vas the first to endeavour to promote the happiness of this valuable, indeed essential, part of the community. The present Head ; .qt the Admiralty obviously inherits the same 'pa triotic impulse, and the same zeal and humanity appear to animate the whole of the Naval De- partment. Our gallant Tars; therefore, cheered in the hour of danger by the conscious ness that their %Vidows mid Offspring . will have all the relief that can be imparted by the grati tude and benevolence of their country. The Morning Chronicle, candid soul ! does " not mean to deny that inflammatory publications might have had their influence" upon the Prisoners at Derby, and asks « what Publications could be . . in my n'eiglibotollood. I ail%vvert•(l, that I could 'be of little or no ser.ice to him, but that I would rb"• So tin, tfecanse you could, he Of tTh ser Nice to him you "vent ?=- - -A. I would gO froM this tiS Jerusaleth to serve a fellovc—crealnee, even t hough he had .been a . strabger lb me. I Went to Cavan, but did not take any interest in the ttial. I was examined, and gave Owens character. After the examintitioti of some . further Wit nesses, and hearing the SpeeelgeS of Counsel and the Charge bf the Judge, the Jury retired for about fire minutes, and returned with a verdict of Not Guilty.--=-The Verdiet was received With much NEXT' fiIIDA‘"rFIF, LOTTERY kVJLL cONIMENcE PitAIVIING.—SIX PRIZES OF TWENTY THOUSAND POUNDS.-MORE PRIZES THAN BLANKS. TO CORRESPONDENTS. The Letter on the TIMBER TRADE and FISHERI ES To-morrow, At INFERNAL EFISTLE to Dt)CTOR TROY To-morrow. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed Las: THEATRE RoYAL, DittiitY-LANE.—TiIe Hypocrite-. Doctor Cantwell, Mr. Dowton ; Charlotte, Mrs. Davison. After which, The Falls of Clyde. THEATRE ROYAL, CoVENT-GARDEN.—The Siege of Belgrade : the Ac , rashier, Mr. Brahain ; Lilla, Miss Stephens. After which, The Father and htis Children. GUNPOWDER Pur.--Holitlay at the Bank, Exchequer, East Itutia and South Sea Houses. • HIGH WATER Al' LONDON BRIDGE T0 , M011.11.0W. Morning, 59 minutes after 11. I Evening, '24 winutessafter I'2. The The British Press has made but a poor rette , from the subject which itself yesterday broug, forward, viz, the Catholic Question. It asset!' that POPERY has undergone a great change 576: former times, and that Papists are not now %cll': they were then. We affirmed that they boast being exactly the same, and that the principles' their creed are immutable. We referred for 1 1 , truth to the doctrines held out by the Popi Writers of the pr: sent time. The Press wist' slips aside from the subject, and abuses the lets' ' of LANPRANK. Abuse is much easier than all,' meat ; but, till The Press'acmonstrates that are mistaken, and that there.is really, such a chart?" • the character of POPERY, and in the opit,io.' ancirrnlcipies of its followers, as will justify e llulers in making further concessions to them,Y l' shill not - think it necessary to notice the aniniadversiOns of The Press on the subject. to any charges of bigotry and intolerance whic'' may be directed against 'Fits SUN, we shall no t say that we are indifferent about them, bat ratl!': r that we glory in deserving such attacks from tl:o se who advocate the cause of a Religion fouol'' l upon principles hitally opposite to our hare Establishment in Church and State, and the Pr''' lessors of which are anxious for political powe r ' merely in the hope that in time they shall be ab le to effect its destructinir. UNITED STA•cER.-'i'he Act of •Navigatio:` , passed by the Congress in last Session, coily . nienced its operation on ihe first of last ;nod ) " It enacts, arnong other things, That certain Coasting vessels,. passing from me Slat( another, shall each pay a duty of halt a dollar per too, nor ' at, least three-fourths of her crew are ANlcrk:ln and in that case the duty shalt he reduced to six cents?' ton. It also enacts, That American vessels, ent:riag a n y foreign port, shall each pay a duty of half a d, filar ton, unless her officers and two-thirds of her crew shall la American Citizens. lint by tic important Clause of the it is enacted, That, after the thirtieth of Scptenther'last, 011 goods, wares, Or rnerclian(hze, Shall be'imported into tl ie United States from any foreign port or p:ace,exc:cpt in vess(D i of the United States, or in such f ore i gn vesse l s as truly a d wholly belong to the Citizens, or subjects, of that courill l of which the goods are the growth, production, or facture; or from which such goods, wares, or merchanda 6 can only be, or most usually are, first shipped for transpiW tation : Provided nevertheless, That this regulation shall nu t extend to the vessels of any foreign nation which has adopted, and which shall not adopt - , a similar regulation. CORNI.EXCUANGE, Nov. s.—We had a gom i supply of Outs this morning, fine samples o f which sold at Monday's prices, but there wd 9 scarce any demand for ordinary Fine Wheat Isol a at our last quoted prices, but - ordinary was dull; Fine Barley and Alalt support their prices ; Pease and Beans there is. no alteration. Our illustrious Hero, the Duke of NVELLiNc - TON, arrived at Dover on Monday morning frwl Calais, end immediately went to Dover CastH where Lord CAs'rLrtlttArtr was waiting to receio: biro. His Grace afterwards proceeded to \lralmer Castle, to, visit the Earl of LivER POOL ; ails! 11: 9 arrival in London is hourly expected. Air. TrtF.LivAt.t., it seems, has resumed his lee' tures in town, and we hope he will confine hitt)" self to oratory, and not touch upon politics, iv' less in treating. the latter subject his discourse'' should prove throughout as sublimely mysterious the following extract from his commencing lee' tore. The great a i m , says t hi s " learned Theban,'' should he, " in utterance, to unite the greatest extent of contra-disli. , :r tireness. of cnuuciatiri element with the uttiz!)st flow of soun4. - li all that the Orator hereafter says should be equally clear antd. intelligible with the above passage, he may bi% safely entrusted %lid) the discussion of any sub ject, and will certainly do no mischief. We mai we ll apply th e words of the Poet— " nothings, so stran g e a style. • " Amaze Lb' unlearn'd, and wake the 'ear/led smile. FUNRRAL OF MR. CURRAN.—Yesterday the mortal. rethains of the Right Hon. JOHN PHI' crol", CURRANT were removed from Amelia-place, Brom''' ton, for interment at,Pandington Church. funeral procession w4s qui,te unostentatious, eon sisting only of a bear: , esnand four monroin4 coaches. The body Wiis de - posited, about sev e or" in one of the vaults under tl4ekhurch. Circular Instructions have been sent from t 1 1 .: Tax-Office th every district, IfiV the burning o'' ell:vernally destroying all the books and papers re lating' to the Property Tax. on Monday, the 3d instant, a General Assemblii• of the Lloyd Acadcmici,ms-was held at their apart" ments iu Somerset-House, when Zlr . EDw A itP- BAtLY, and -Mr: A BRAVIA:4 COOPgR, were electo!. Associates of the Lloyd Academy. more inflArtnnalofy that thr:.-.6 "of the Wt hers were CbuntenanciA by ttis Majeaty'a Ministets , The answer ±s easy and Must be aatijaetory every loyal Sitbject in the Empire, The ini o of The Chrorilde, who have been booting in the Caute of Jabobiiiin i far tri f years, and who lately atieMpted to make sot compensation to the deli:dell men wlo they had been instrumental in exciting Innovation and Reform,: by .thdeavours to pt judice the Jury betore their trials, and cd sentiently to divert the course of justice. ZYt therefore, may The Chronicle Writers attempt . throw an Odium upon OLIVER and BRADdi when they themselve s " abused the ignorance j these poor people,. to inflame them to acts of of, rage," by the daily instigations of a Jacobi-0 Press. Pri; for Co Al