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PEr.) 9.30 a.m• Petersburg ; Jane, CND: , Quebo° ky, 9 a.m• on g liotig ; t', Quebec, lerickstadtt nary, G10,5' a was VI°P !A __,Rydet ibscripLio a r Cup WIIO FICHES A l ► Glogovii before the uct in the .etas fine" Gimp If ER, —This iet with a she most in which and worth )f Italian ilborough eon, No• ,th having lam Day, defendant iimself in —Yest6r ;e Bishop idence at e church' is assetu ly of the le follow ram Mr. kas declared Itives is sources y favour i at the %s been Whcq Lion of pending e bias of which I matter be with its day ; neasion e Tovva 1 with a , nour as 31 I can ect and odness, krtunity; fart 4 LAri FA nj NoiT xj - t„.l , vv - rr4. PARIS, WEDNESDAY, AUG. 12, 8 A.M. The Emperor arrived at St. Cloud yesteLday evening at 8 o'clock. The letter of the Times' Paris correspondent (second edition), dated yesterday, 6 p.m., says : Everything appears to confirm the correctness of the information I communicated yesterday touching the settlement of the Moldc-Wallachian difficulty. The Pays has been authorised, or per mitted to say, in an article criticising the lan guage of the English prels, that " we also believe that the question has been resolved at Osborne," though not in a way hinted at by some of the English journals. The Pays, I suppose, does not yet know much more about tho matter, but it is probable that any dif ference that may have been caased by the hot headedness of diplomatists at home or abroad would easily be removed in an hour's quiet conver sation between the principal personages concerned. At any rate, there is a general impression that no thing will come of it—at least nothing unpleasant. M. Vogorides will, perhaps, get a hint not to take Vie French elections too faithfully as his model in future, and a word or two of/remonstrance, repri mand, or encouragement, as the case may be, will bo addressed to the subordinate actors. If, as is believed, the conference will have to decide the question of the elections, it is natural that the whole of - the facts, and not ex parte ones, as we now have, will be laid before it, and judged with as much partiality as any one can expect from them. Despatches from the Foreign-office were this day received at the English Embassy, and were forwarded without delay to Trou ville, where the Ambassador has been staying for some days past. It is probable that they contain the result of the conversations at Osborne on that and perhaps other questions. A telegraphic despatch was received here this morning from Con stantinople, announcing that matters remain in statu quo in that capital. The Ambassadors had made no preparation to quit the city, but were awaiting further instructions from their respective Governments. So far so good. It is also stated that it was decided at Osborne that, in the event of Lord Elgin and Baron Gros not attaining the object of their mission to China, a more decided action in common should be adopted." FRANCE. PARIS, TUESDAY EVENING The Emperor and Empress are expected this evening at St. Cloud, on their return from Havre, via Rouen. The Moniteur contains a decree nominating the presidents, vice-presidents, and secretaries of the councils-general of the departments for the session of 1857. _ . The Siecle , in an article on the crisis at Constan tinople, contains the following : " Austria ' after having been the most doubtful ally of the Western p ,wers, and the most ungrate ful ally of RuSsia, now seeks to profit by the unin telligent pride of the Sultan, and by the pretensions to exclusive preponderance of England, to satisfy her eternal craving after the Danubian provinces. But if the policy of good sense is hearkened to, we shall speedily see it adopt the attitude peculiar to unmasked egotists, and implore the French Cabinet to forget its unworthy conduct. She moreover well knows that a word from France would cost her Italy. The more we reflect on the events in Con stantinople, the less do we understand the conduct of the British Government and of its ambassador. Can the influence of Great Britain increase by the separate administration of Moldaviaand Wallachia? Would England sell less British produce under the union ? If Lord Redcliffe had only been animated by a desire to lower our influence in the East, we should prove to the legitimist journals who daily taunt us with our sympathies for the English alliance, that we place the honour and grandeur of France above all questions of alliance. The English would then have no mare resolute adversaries than the French democrats, of whom we are one of the humble organs. But all these suppositions are un called for, and we persist in the belief that every thing will be arranged in a pacific manner." BOURSE, Aug. 11.—The following were the last .quotations Cash. fr. a. End of Month. 4i per Cents 3 per Cents 66. 5 67 10 Bank Shares 2,825 Credit Foncier Credit Mobilier 975 Roman Do. Account 972 50 Austrian Belgian 4 Piedmoutese (5) B9 Home Debt RAILWAYS—FOR CASE. IT. C. ft C. Orleans 1,450 Western Northern - Lyons and Med 9222— New Ditto Ne w Ditto 9022— Grand Central Geneva Midi CIRCASSIA. The Invalids Kusse of the Ist publishes some details of the military operations which have lately taken place by the Russians in the Caucasus against Schamyl, of which we have had only. a brief men tion. Prince Orbelian, wishing to occupy the plateau of Salatavia, advanced towards that posi tion in the middle of June, with ten battalions of infantry, seven squadrons of cavalry, and ten pieces of artillery. Schamyl, having received in formation of the attack meditated against him, caused all the families with their flocks to remove from the villagesinto the interior, and thenoccupied the villages with his troops. On the 4th July be himself arrived at Salatavia with reinforcements. He endeavoured to cut off the- supplies of Prince Orbelian, in order to compel the Russians to retreat. The intended manoeuvres of the Tcherkeses were however betrayed, and they were themselves sur rounded and attacked on all sides at once. A small number of tliem only submitted, the others pre ferred to fight to the last, and 400 of them were killed. Among them were Ismail Naib, the aitemir of Salatavia, a cacti, and several other notable personages. The combat lasted five hours ; the Russians, according to their report, had Only three officers and eight soldiers killed and 44 wounded. Prince Orbelian attained the object of his movement, and got possession of the important post of Salatavia. Th• St. Petersburg accounts of the 4th inst. mention a report sent to the Government on the Bth ult. concerning a very brilliant affair which took place on the 3d at Glendschick, on the coast of the Black Sea. The report has been forwarded by Major-General Filipson, the officer in command of the Russian troops in those parts, and states that the Filibustering troops, under the orders of a certain Colonel Lepinsky, had been surprised by the Russians landing troops under Major Bones chow, who had succeeded in capturing a large quan tity of powder, two rounds of grape-shot, 500 grenades, and other valuable stores of ammuni- Von, which had been placed there in charge of the garrison, and been thought quite se care from any Russian attack. The Russians are said to have had only eight men severely wounded and two killed in storming the defensive works and capturing the guns in position. The w hole affair appears to have taken place ,from the too great confidence reposed in the courage of the garrison to defend their position by Lepinsky, who had otherwise used every precaution in fortifyin g the point of danger, as far as science was concerned. The Russian Government has given orders for the construction of screw machinery for nine ships of-the-line, two corvettes, arid ten garnets, besides four transport ships. There are at present in the camp of Peterhoff no less than 4,000 cadets be lonzing to the army, princ , pally in the branch of artillery, and the Grand Duke Nicholasis often employed in witnessing their exercise in gunnery. THE PRINCIPALITIES. The Nord contains the following remarks on the late diplomatic rupture at Constantinople " We have received letters which complete and correct, in certain points, the details given as to the nature and bearing 3 of the proceedings of the ambassadors of the four powers on the subject of the elections of Moldavia. According to these accounts, what took place was this :—The ambas sadors did not demand, ai some of the Austrian and English journals assert, the dismissal of the caimacan, nor did they even demand, as most journals have alleged, the pure and simple annul ment of the elections which they knew t be stained with fraud ; they merely asked that a strict verification of the elections should be pro ceeded to, in order to establish publicly and clearly whether the prescriptions of the firman con voking the electors had been observed or viola+ed. At any other place than Coustintinople, and on any other occasion, people would only have seen in this proposition what it really meant—namely, the desire to give to Europe and to the popula tions of the Ottoman empire a striking proof of the goad dispositions of the Ottoman government, or of affording that government the opportunity of repairing the faults and abuses committed, and' which might have been ascribed to the blind zeal of functionaries acting from culpable motives. The ere— 87 - 91-4- 394- 37t-- THE SUN, LONCON, WEDNESDAY EVEI-ING AUG us r 12. 1857 ► Porte, no doubt, by the eyes of its counsellors, saw something quite different, and without under standing that what was desired was the means of securing it an honourable retreat, hastened to al cept the proposition, but offered to carry it into execution in a manner which, to make use of en expression that•has been empleyed, we may call 'derisory'; in fact the compromise proposed by the Porte consisted in the assembling the caima cans at Constantinople, and in calling on them to declare if they had violated or not the prescrip tions of the firman, and if the elections were to be declared null or maintained ! In ceder that this proposition might have bad the appelrance of being, if not serious, at least just, it would have been necessary to have convoked all the elec tors and all the commissioners at .Cmstanti nople, in order to hear all par:ies ; for, to all persons who know how things take place at Con stantinople, it is evident that the caitnacaes, if they alone had been convoked, would have found the means of justifying themselves. Such, however, is the plan of concia.liation 'which the journals of Vienna and those of London so bitterly reproach M. de T'nouvenel and his collesgues with having rejected. What qualification would not these same journals have given to the plenipoten tiaries if they had fallen into this snare ? It evi dently results from these facts that the four Ambassadors have carried the spirit of conciliation to its farthest limit., and that their greatest anxiety has been to preserve the dignity of the Turkish government by causing its decisions, dis reglrded by its own subjects, to be respected. If the proposition of verification had been accepted, the affair would have been referred to the commis sion at Bucharest, andthe question would not have assumed the proportions which Lord Bedcliffe, Austria, and Turkey have so inconsiderately caused it to take." AMERICA. (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.) The United States Mail steamship Atlantic has arrived, with advices from New York to the Ist inst. She has brought $364,456 specie on freight. Her advices have been anticipated by the Van derbilt. = On the 3d instant the Atlantic passed the Royal Mail steamer Persia in lat. 42, long. 63, hence ; and on the same day, in lat. 42, long. 62, the screw steamship New York, from Glasgow fur New York. Among the passengers by the Atlantic is the agent of the Great Southern Convention, who visits Europe for the purpose of establishing a line of steam-ships from Norfolk, Virginia, to Havre, or some port in England ; ex-Governor J. A. Wright, United States' Minister to Berlin, accompanied by Mr. S. Wright, Secretary of Legation ; and the Hon. W. W. Boardman. RUMOURED VISIT OF THE QUEEN TO FRANCE. It is said that the Prince Consort has accepted the invitation of the Emperor of the French to be present at the grand review which is to come off at Chalons-sur-Marne in the approaching month of September, when upwards of 50,000 men will be assembled in the camp. And also that it is not improbable that the Queen herself will take that opportunity of paying a return visit to the Impe rial family, at the Empe7or's country residence at Compiegne. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wo3lsack at 5 o'clock. ~. THE NUMBER OF JUDGES. Lord CAMPBELL said he wizhed to put a question to the noble and learned lord on the woolsack, upon a sub ject of considerable interest, he meant the report of the commission appointed to inquire into the number and duties of the judges, and also to ascertain whether some of them could not bo dispensed with. It was important to remove an impression which existed abroad that there was a greater number of judges than was required. He was a member of the commission alluded to, and they came to the unanimous opinion ,that the number of judges could not be diminished without serious injury to the public service. He should therefore wish to know whether the noble and learned lord bad received the report of the Commission, and if so, when it would be made public. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he entirely con curred with the noble and learned lord that it was ex pedient that the report of the committee should be laid on the table of the house with as little delay as possible. Ho had not real the report officially, but it had been received by the Secretary of State, and to morrow he would put a question to him upon the sub ject. With regard to the commission itself it was not issued because the Government thought there was a greater number of judges than was re quired, but because they felt that it was desirable to have the question fully investigated in order to remove an erroneous impression that exited in certain quarters. He rejoiced to hear that the con clusion at which the commission had arrived was, that there was not the smallest pretenee for saying that there was a redundancy of common law judges. It was quite a mistake to suppose that because a judge did not sit in his court during the long vacation that he had not suffi cient to occupy his mind. He begged to assure the'noble and learned lord that the report would be presented with the smallest possible delay. the decision of the house, without expressing any opinion on it himself. Mr. MALINS supported the mandosent. After some remarks from Mr. AYRTON, in reference to a petition from a gentleman of the class referred to, entrusted to him for presentation, Mr. WILSON opposed the amendment, upon thu round that it was informal, and proposed the intro ou;tion of a new class of claimants for compensation, vvbich the house ought not to recognise. The amendment was negatived without a division. Clauses 121, 122, and 123 were struck out. \Jr. COLLINS moved an amendment to the schedule, providing Wakefield as the only district registry for the West Riding That Leeds be the place of district registry for the Wapentakes of E ovebross, Staincliffe, CTaro (including the liberty of Ripon), Skyrack, Bark stln, A •h, and for the borough of Leeds, all in the west riding of the county of York." Mr. M. S. BAINES secmded the amendment. It was essential for the well working of the bill and the interest of the inhabitants that the West Riling of York should be divided into two districts at least. Mr. ROEBUCK opposed the amendment. He-con sidered it better to have one central district than to divide them. The hon. and learned member was stating his objections to the amendment when, it being ten mitiutes to four o'clock, be was stopped by the forms of the house. The further consideration of the amendments to the bill was then aujourned. NEW MEMBER. Mr. YOUNG took the oaths and his seat for Great Yarmouth. REVISING BARRISTERS (DUBLIN) BILL. Tois bill passed through committee. The other orders for the morning sitting were dis p3Red of, and the house supended its sitting. The house resumed at 6 o'clock. THE MARINES IN CHINA. Mr. T. MILLER asked the First Lord of the Admi ralty whether the two battalions of the Royal Marines now under orders for China would receive the field allowance and the same pay as that granted to her Ma jesty's troops of the line when serving in India, should they be employed on shore or on field duty ? Sir C. WOOD was under3tood to say that he was rot aware of any difference being made. The Marines now en r. , ute to China would have the same allowances as the Marines already there. COMMITTEES OF SUPPLY. Lord J. RUSSELL brought up the report of the com mittee on committees of supply. LAND TRANSPORT CORPS. Mr. ROEBUCK presented a petition from members of the laud transport corps, and gave notice of his in tention to move that it be printed with the votes. THE PRINCIPALITIES. Mr. DISRAELI —Perhaps it may be more conve nient if I now make the inquiry respecting recent pro ceedings of the ambassadors at Constantinople of which I have given notice. The house is aware that the am bassadors of four European powers at Constantinople have struck their flags, and I infer from that that they have at least suspended diplomatic relations with the Porte. It is understood further that this extreme and violent proceeding has arisen out of a misunderstanding as to the form of government to be established in the Principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia. It was understood that at the Congress of Paris there was an accordance of opinion upon this subject between France and England, both powers being in favour of the union of the provinces ; but now it would appear that there is a contrariety of opinion between France and England : and what I want to know is, whether the noble lord at the head of the Government can give us any information on the subject—whether there is any prospect of an amicable settlement of the existing differences between England and France, or any fear of an estrangement of feeling, which all would deplor e , or of any interruption of the much-cherished alliance between the two coun tries ? (Hear ) Lord PALM ERSTON—I am not surprised that the right hon. gentleman should ask the question, as the various statements which have appeared in the papers must have given rise to a certain amount of anxiety on the part of the public. There have been, it is true, differences of opinion at Constantinople, but not, as the right hon. gentleman imagines, on the qu es ti o n of union or no union, but with respect to the regularity or irre gularity of the elections which had taken place in Mol davia. The right hon. gentleman is aware that by the treaty of Paris there were to be chosen in the two pro vinces representative assemblies, which were to take into consideration the wants and wishes of the people of the two provinces with regard to their internal organisation and arrangement. There were to be commissioners appointed by the six Powers, to be present in the Principalities during the elections and deliberations, and when the assemblies should have expressed their wishes, and the commissioners should have made their reports on what had pased, their wishes and :-,heir reports were to be submitted to the Congress of Paris, which was to reas semble for that purpose—not es before, but to be com posed of the resident ambassadors from the respective courts. The representative of the Porte was to be of the number, and they were to deliberate on the representa tions and the report, and to concert with the Sultan an arrangement for the constitutional government of the two provinces. Well, the Porte in the execution of this ar rangement issued a firman directed to tee governors of the two provinces, setting forth the manner in which the elections were to take place. Questions arose . as to the interpretation of certain parts of the firman, which had been settled with the uaanimous consent of the re , preseutatives of the six powers at Constantinople, acting in concert with the Turkish government. Certain ex planations were given on the 31st May by the Turkish government in regard to that finnan ; those explanations were sent to the commissioners at Bucharest and they were to be transmitted ti the governor of Moldavia to be applied, not only in Moldavia, but also in Wal lachia in so far as they were applicable, having due con sideration for certain local differences as to laws and re gulations. Well, what with telegraphic messages, what with irregularities on the part of those who ought to have transmitted the documents—l speak of the officers of the Turkish Government—the elections in Moldavia took place without reference to those interpretations, and there prevailed an impression that those elections were not in accordance with regularity and law, and that if those interpretations had been strictly followed, the results would h.'tve been different. Tale was repre sented to the ambassadors at Cousti a . inople, and four of them, the French, Russian, Prussian, and Sardinian severally, and vrithoat acquainting the English and Aus trian ambassadors with their inten,ions, celled on the Turkish Government to annul the elections, have the electoral lists revised, aid order the elections to com mence over again. Tile Porte felt that these demands which applied to matters that had been treated in com mon by the six powers, ought not to come from four alone, and declined complying with the request, saying, however, that if it were made by the six, it would place the mater in a different position. There were misunder standings on all sides, and the result was that France, Russia, Prussia, and Sardinia either all hauled down their flags or interrupted diplomatic relations, or were about to do it, and relations were about to be suspended between those powers and the Porte. The recent visit of the Emperor of the French to o,borne accompanied by his Minister of Foreign Affairs, gave the English Go vernment an oprortunity of coming to a full understand ing with the French Government on this subject, and we thought undoubtedly that sufficient pri , na L facie grounds of irregularity had nut been proved, but found the contrary Opinion to be so prevalent as to make it desirable in the interests of the Porte itself that these elections should be revised, and be made in conformity with the accepted interpretation of the firman. We have reason to believe that Austria is disposed t take similar views, and, that being so, we have good reason to believe that the Sultan, not feeling his dignity or independence at all compromised by eield ing to toe representations of the whole of his allies, will take the course recommended, viz., that of annulling the elections, having the lists properly revised, and having the new elections take place 15 days after the lists have been so revised. Therefore there are no grounds for ap prehending any difference of opinion between the Go vernments of England a d France on these points, which would be at ail likely to interrupt the harmony and good understanding that prevails at present. (Cheers.) CORPORATION REFORM. In answer t ) Sir J. SHELLEY, Sir G. GREY said it was the intention of Govern ment to propose a measure on the subject of corporation reform early in the ensuing session. SMITHFIELD MARKET. Sir J. SHELLEY asked the Chancelor of the Exche quer whether the Government would, as far as they bad the power to do so, insist upon the area lately occupied by the market in Smithfield being preserved as an open space ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the question had come under the consideration of the corpo ration of London, and the latter had laid certain plans before Government with a view of establishing a dead meat market on a partion of the site. The Government did not give' its assent to those plans, and they had been referred back, in order that other plans might be pre- • pared. He expected to receive the revised plans shortly. THE INDIAN MAIL. Mr. SPOONER asked whether there was any truth in the report that an Indian mail bad arrived ? Lord PALMERSTON cautioned the hon. member against the many idle reports which were current. The mail had not arrived. MILITARY CHAPLAIN. On the order of the day being read for going into com mittee of supply, Col. NORTH, on behalf of Gen. Windham, who was absent, inquired whether when a clergyman entered the army as an assistant chaplain, his service counted for his rAirement in the same way as that of an assistant-sur geon ; and, if not, why not ! Sir J. RAMSDEN replied that the serviceof a clergy man entering the army as an assistant chaplain did nut count in the same way for retirement as that of an assis tant surgeon, and the reason was that the assistant surgeon was a commissioned officer, while the chaplain held only a temporary appointment. TROOPS FOR INDIA. Sir DE LACY EVANS, pursuant to notice, rose to draw the attention of the house to the military arrange ments being made for meeting the contingency that has occurred in the Bengal Native A rm y. Th e h on . an d gallant officer spoke in so low a tone that we were unable to give more than anoutline of his remarks. He was understood to say that) considering they were about to prorogue during an emergency of momentous importance in reference to the military power of the country, i 4 would not be thought unreasonable that he, as a profes sional man, should endeavour to direct attention to the suhject —to elicit from the Government what steps they had taken or were about to take to meet the emergency, and, though be was aware teat advice offered to the Go• vernm en t was not generally acceptable, to state hi- views of what ought to be done torender the military resources of the nation adequate t'S the occasion. He feared that Government had n ,t appreciated as fully as he had done the importance of the contingency which ha I arisen ; for, with regard to our naval force, they had contented them selves with an addition of 2,000 sailors and marines—an addition obviously insufficient fur the requirements of the war which Sir J. Bowring had brought us into in China. Then as to the militia ; there was an estimate of 200 0001. only for the extra expenditure for this force until March next ; although it appeared that we had hardly any rapier troops in Barris or at home. He could not know what our relations with other countries were a present, and he hoped there was no reason to ap prehend any interruption of peace ; but it was surely scarcely politic or becoming in a great power like Eng land to allow itself to appear t i the world as compara• Lively disarmed. Bat, having denuded the country of the regular troops, the noble 1 , rd the S icretary for War had put it forward merely as a possible contingency that a portion of the militia force !night be celled out ; and it was this c.rcurnstance chiefly that lad him to think that the Government did not sufficientle appreciate the emer gency that heel arisen. In looking raun Ito see where we might collect our forces if needed, the garrisons of our colonies must always be regarded as the most im portant source. First, there was the garrison of Malta, consisting of ix or seven battalions. At lea t three of these should have been sent to India. During the Crimean war the commander of the forces at Malta very properly sent away the whole of the garrison—feeling full confidence is the loyalty of the inhabitants. The result proved that that confidence was well founded, ar.d he (Sir De L. Evan-) trusted that a similar course would now be taken, and that three at least of the battalions now in garrison at Malta should be sent on to India. But instead of sending these troops round by the Cape, he should much rather hear that arrangements would be made for their transmission, together with a sufficient force of artillery and cavalry, by way of E rypt, by which many weeks would be saved. He had been told that the earnest desire of the Paella of Elypt was to afford every facility for the transmission through his territory of the troops destined to meet the emergency in India. He might have been wtongly informed, but if not he hoped the Government would not' hesitate to take ad vantage of the offer, and that if not the whole, at least the greater part, of the force would be sent by that route. The want of a coal depot at Suez had, he was aware, been put forward as an objection. But surely that might be provided in a very short time. There were other considerations with regard to the trans port of troops to India at the present moment that were of great importance. On the 19th May last, a noble earl in another place inquired what reinforcements they intended to send to India, and the answer was, that the Government dud not consider that our territories in that of the world were at all seriously menaced, but that 4,000 men would be sent in June by means of transport ships to reinforce the European troops in that country. But instead of 4,000 he understood that only 554 men were actually embarked. He admitted that consider able exertions had been made to procure transports, and that since June the number of troops sent out had been considerably inereased. Up to the Bth August he be lieved that about 16,600 men had actually embarked for India, and that 6,000 or 8,000 more were now under orders. (Hear, hear.) Four thousand or 5,000 troops had also been intercepted on their way to China, by order of the Governor-General, and sent on to India ; and some additional forces had been likewise drawn from Ceylon. Taking altogether, including those under orders for embarkation, the additional European force which the Indian Government would have at its command, when they all arrived, would not exceed, he supposed, 28,000 men. That was undoubtedly a considerable force, and with the artillery, about 100 guns, would be a most de sirable accession to the British forces in India. Still be doubted. whether all the arrangements had been made which the circumstances of the case demanded. One of the greatest difficulties to be overcome was the immense distance the troops had to be conveyed before they reached the scene of operations. He believed the whole of the troops hitherto embarked had gone out in sailing vessels, and he was told that was necessary in conse quence of there being no depots for coaling steamers on the voyage. That was an inconvenience, however, which it appeared to him might be easily remedied, and he hoped he should be told that measures had been taken for that purpose. At all events, he believed he was not incorrect in supposing that at Sierra Leone, the Cape, and the Mauritius, coaling stations in every way suit able might be formed, each being about 3,000 or 3,500 miles distant from the other. Of this he was quite sure, that whatever expense might be ne cessary for so.important an object as the shortening of , the time distance by some 3,000 miles- in conveying out troops to meet an emergency like the present, by esta blishing these coal depots, would be gladly borne by the country. Unless it could be shown that there was some practical difficulty in the way, he trusted he should be told by the Minister that ships had been sent out to form coal depots at the stations he had indicated. He hoped that the reply he should receive would give some dis tinct information upon this point, and, if it ghoul f be in the affirmative, it would be a matter of great satisfaction to him. It had been complained that some of our old vessels of war now in ordinary had not been despatched to India, one or two of which in the port or river of Cal cutta would, under existing circumstances, be of great use. These were matters which had been discussed by the public press ; still he trusted there was no harm in his urging them upon the attention of the Government. tHear ) He had seen-recently in a newspaper that Capt. Osborne's squadron of 16 gunboats 1 ft Rio on the 3d July. He trusted that that statement was correct, and that orders would be sent out to arrest the squadron at Galle, and send it on to Calcutta, for no force could be more effective in operating in the Indian rivers than a squadron of gunboats. There were some other points which deserved consideration in speaking of the reinforce merits sent out to meet the emergency of the mutiny of the Bengal army. Unquestionably 28,000 men was a very large addition to the European force in India. But it should be recollected that a large portion of that num ber was due in the shape of reliefs for troops whose term of service had expired. Again, when these troops arrived in. Octeber their numbers would be diminished by 5,000 or 6,000 from sickness and other causes. Means should be in readiness to send out men at once to sup ply that deficiency. With regard to the force wlech which might be drawn from the colonies there were four serviceable battalions ia Canada. Canada might now almost be considered an independent ally of England. She was in no danger from any power, and he saw no rea son why three of those regiments shoul i not be at once recalled. And not only that, but he would venture to renew a suggest on he made during the Crimean war, that advantage should be taken of the sympathy meal tested by the Canadian people in the affairs of the mother country, and that the offer they then made to raise two Canadian regiments to be added to our regular army, but which, front some Jealousy existing at the Elor-e Guarde, had been decline I, wattle!, if renewed, be new accepted. Then as to the forces at the Cape. He had previously expressed his regret that so large a force should be kept up by the Government in that colony. There were at the Cape now, he believed, 11 regiments of infantry, a strong regiment of mounted rifismen, and 2,800 Germans. Yet at no time were the Kaffirs less able to make inroads into the British territory ; and seeing that the Cape had the advantage of a free government, it was too much to call upon the Imp3rial Government to protect the whole of the extended frontier, or to do more than to afford them some assistance towards enabling them to guard it themselves ; 4,000 British troops acting in this way would be sufficient fo keep the Kaffirs wite in bounds for the next few year., when the protection of the country might safely, he hoped, be given up to the colonists. ie was told that by maintaining this large army at the Cape we had bent saved another Kaffir war. Eve ait it were so, which he questioned, he did not see any very great advantage in being saved from a war, if for that purpose we had to keep up a war establishment in time of peace. But of late years we had kept up a larger fcrce at the Cape than at any period during the Kaffir war, and as there could be r o necessity for maintaining so large an army there, he trusted that he should bear from the Government that they bad taken steps to render the troops at the Cape available for the emergency in India, where, as they were already half-way, if orders bad been sent on in the first instance they would arrive long before any troops sent on from this couetre could do. It was intended during the war with Russia to send one of the Regiments at the Cepa to the Crimea, but some technical difficulty arose, and the conse quence was that the regiment never came. He had ob served as a rule that the governors of distant colonies were very averse to parting with their soldiers ; but the force at the Cape was altogether out of proportion to any demand that could arise for their services. He thought, under the circumstances, three or four battalions of in fantry, and the 2,700 or 2,800 men of the German Legion would be an ample force for the defence of the colony, and that seven battalions might be spared for India without danger. If, however, the Government contented themselves with merely sending orders to the governor of the colony to send all that he could spare, he should en tertain great doubts of the result. He thought it was the duty of the Government at home to take the responsibi lity upon themselves, and to issue peremptory orders to send over so many battalions, for unless they did so he did not believe that any very groat forte would go from the Cape to India. (Hear.) Ile understood from the newspapers that the Governor of Bombay, inintediately on hearing of the mutiny in the Bengal army, had very properly despatched two ships with reinforcements to Calcutta. He did not expect the same course would be taken by the Governor of the Cape without orders from the Government at home ; but he trusted, if such orders had not already been sent out, that no further delay would take place in forwarding them, and that the result would be an addition of six or seven regiments of in fantry to the available force at Calcu'ta. It was clear that not less than 100,000 of the native forces in India had either been disbanded or were iu arms against us; and even if they should have received that blow which he trusted had ore this been struck at Delhi, it would still leave us three or four years of serious work upon our hands to re-establish our military position in India, and place us on our former footing and security, both as regarded India and Etirope. As he had said. when the forces which had been sent out arrived in India, it would be found that considerable diminution of t'neir numbers by sickness and other disabling causes would have 'a c t curred, and after their arrival still greater leases meet be anticipated. It was necessary--t 0 provide for thes e, and the only means of doing so was by recruiting th e militia. At all events, be trusted they would not b e compelled to resort to the enlistment of foreigners. (Hear.) Well, theta the only means of suPPlYiag the casualties and maintaining the effective strength of the army was by recruiting for the line and the militia, and as a means for supplyirg the ranks of the army he looked to the maltia as of far greater importance than recruit ing. If there wile asey br inch of our military system that failed durino the late war it was the recrui . ing. The life Lord llardioge had given his decided testimony to that effect, and many hon and gallant officers then in the house knew how perfectly unsatisfactory and un available, it was. Now he thought the time had arrived when they ought to consider what were the causes of this great difficulty which undoubtedly existed of re cruiting the army. The chief reason, he believed, was that adequate inducements were net offered to young men t.) enlist. He believed 101. only was the meximula bounty in the late Rue-ian war, whereas in the previous war double that amount was allowed. But it had been stated, he believed, by several authorities, and amongst them the late Commander-in-Chief that a heavy bounty was objectionable becaire it encouraged desertion. That !might be so ; but, whether or not, he would suggest to the government that it was a subject well worthy of their consideration what were the causes of the difficulty of recruiting the army, and what it was that occasioned the tin willingness on the part of the great body of the people to enter into the military service of their country ; be cause, unless means could be devised for facilitating the reinforcements of the army very serious results might talc() place. (Hear, hear.) Looking, then, to the militia as the chief source from which reinforcements to the regular troops could be dra wn, he confessed he was disappointed when he found the estimates to be pro posed for the militia was only 200,0001. (Hear, hear.) Re had heard it said that at some tines between this and Christmas 30 . 000 of the militia might be called out, and bad also heard reasons put forward why they should not be t m precipitate in this matter —on the ground that it might interfere with the re cruiting of the army. He, ho.vever, thought those rea sons wholly insufficient, and would respectfully urge up m the government the advisability of making a:range meats for the imtnedia 4 e calling out of the whole militia force. Let them consider for a moment what was the f wee at home at the present moment. When the esti mates were brought for ward for the peace establishment, some months back, he stated that in his opinion it was not the duty cif any member of that house to presume to dictate to the Government the military force which ought to he maintained for the service of the country, but he could net but remark that there was at that time only about tbirty-one or thirty-two battalions of the line in the kingdom. Then what was the means announced for supplying the deficiency ? He understood it had been announced that all tho battalions or regiments of the line at home were to be raised Cr, n 840 (h, present complement) to 1,000 men each. But the number of battalions at home was so small that that would scarcely give them more than 2,000 or 3,000 additional men. Then they were to have ten second battalions of 1,000 each raised, which would give alto gether an addition of 13,000 or 14,000 men. But that was wholly inadequate. If no warlike operations were anticipated we ought to show to the world on all oc c Isions that we possessed an inherent service of military strength ; and every means ought to be resorted to for that purpose. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the affairs of the East, the house had in the accounts in the public journals read many statements of heroic conduct on the part of the British officers in India, and he did hope that government would lose no time in manifesting in some conspicuous way their sense of the services of those gallant officers. He might mention especially the two Lawrences and Lieutenant Willoughby—one of whom in Oude without any force, another in Msdras, and the other in the Punjaub, upheld the authority of the Go vernor and prevented an outbreak. Then there was Brigadier Wilson, who bad evinced great skill an d gallantry. An Hoer. MEMBER—And Major Edwards. (Hear.) Sir DE L. EVANS—Yes, and Major Edwards ; he wished he had a higher rank than " major." (Cheers.) There was another distinguished instance of the re sources, the energy, and the bravery of a British officer. He commenced at once to levy troops, and operated with the utmost efficiency. Ail those he trusted would re ceive from the government the reward they so richly merited. He would not trespass further upon the atten ti we of the house. There was one circumstance, how ever, which had struck every mind in this country, and almost every mind in Europe, in connexion with this outbreak, and that was the extreme ferocity and inhu manity which had been displayed by the Indian sepoys. The supposition arising from such conduct wool' be that they bad been long suffering under some oppression ; but the fact was just the reverse: No troops in the world were treated with more consideration or enjoyed greater advantages than the sepoys of the Bengal army. The ex planation of the atrocities of which we read on the part of the mutinous troops, was he believed that they had drunk large quantities of raki, which was more maddening in its effects than any other spirit. He trusted that they would be punished with the utmost severity, and that no false humanity would stand in the way of the well-de served retribution which ought to fall upon them. (hear.) Momentous as this state of things was he must neverthe less call to mind that the people of this country were not in any way intimidated by the serious position in which at one time we stood during the Crimean war, and that although at one time that gigantic struggle was of a nature calculated to distress any of the most powerful governments in Europe, the people of this country, in stead of being therefore deterred from prosecuting the war, were full of enthusiasm, and were desirous of carrying the war further, The same feeling he was con fident, would animate the country on the present emergency, and, with the concurrence of the House of Commons, would place in the hands of the Government all they could require to restore tranquillity in India. One word more. He trusted the local government would find the necessary specie for enabling them to carry on their operations with energy and efficiency ; but, whether or not, he trusted that in the aid which was sent them from home an ample supply of specie would not be forgotten. (Cheers.) Lord PALMERSTON—I am sure the house will agree that the high military character of the hon. and gallant officer who has just sat down must command the attention and respect of all those who have listened to him for any opinions he may have expressed, even though they may not altogether share in them to the full extent that he does himself. (Hear, hear.) And therefore, sir, I trust he will give the Government credit for having listened with respect and deference to the sentiments he has uttered, so honourable to himself and so valuable, as practical suggestions, coming from so authoritative a source. However, I think that the hon. and gallant gentleman has somewhat overrated the European diffi culty produced by the events which have occurred India, arid the efforts which we shall be compelled to make in order to meet the resultof those events. The bon, and gallant gentleman seems to think that foreign nations may be led by the knowledge of the amount of force which we have detached to our Indian possessions to think that we are weak and defenceless at home, and that at this time an opportunity is afforded them to assume a higher tone, and to adopt other measures toward, this country then would have been prudent in them under other circumstances. With regard to that ques tion, I think the latter observations of my hon. and gall ant friend are an answer to his preview remarks The nations of the world have seen with what an unanimous spirit and with what energy this country responds to the coil of the government in moments of national difficulty ; and if any foreign government or nation think that the circumstances of the moment would render it more sate for them to assume an atti tude towards this country which they did not think it prudent to assume before, I believe that they would soon find out their mistake, and without loss of time would resume their accustomed attitude towards England. It is true that we have occasion to send, either from this country or our colonies, a force which in round num bore amour.ti to 30,000 men to India ; but we have. taken and are taking such steps as we think best calculated to fill up the gap in our forces at home. Measures are being taken such as were mentioned by my hon. and gallant friend. W. are raising recruits as fast as we can to fill up not only our regiments at home but in all other parts of the world to their highest standard, except those in India, which have been already raised t o that standard. We are also raising ten battalions in addition, and we propose to call out a portion of the militia. My hon. and gallant friend seems to think that thero is not such a disposition on the part of the people of this country to enlist in the army as he could wish to tee ; but I do not think that the example of the Crimean war bears out that assertion —for we raised no less than 50,000 men in twelve months, a number double that which had been raised at any former period. The inducements to the people to enter the army 'are the career of a soldier, the advantages derivable from pensions after certain periods of service, and the general respect which is felt towards the military body, and I do not think that there is any ground for saying that these inducements are not suffi cient to procure soldiers. Of course the lowering of the standard would some s bat facilitate recruiting ; but at period like this, when there is a demand for labour for purposes of the harvest, it is not a matter of surprise that men who can get high wages during the harvest, until that is over will be indisposed to enlist, howl ve e ver e sirable they may think a soldier's career ; an doubt that when the harvest is o ver weshall geotfarecruits d h s a rn y m n i o men as we require, Even now the numbnenron,idrabie, which have been obtained is by no mea a n b e i ' it may b e and the recruiting is gt lig on said that we ought to raise 20 fa T battalionsue a b l o u t ; t b o u r t ai w se ha a l would be the use of saying thatlr force larger than recruiting would enable us to raise ! It regiments withinta seems to us better to farm a s will enable us to raise given period as airmen) and when those regimehsatsyahroenf.oramndedgtahlelanntto friend says the raising of others. M that a larger force of ilitia ought to be embodied than it is the understood intraention to call out. But there ar« two limits to this maintaining of troops—first, the means , t i n g, and, secondly, the expenditure which will bferienacruarred. The militia, like the regiments of the line, require to be recruited, and no doubt if we could tell this house and the country truly that we were o n the eve of European difficulties, that differences were likely to arise between us and foreign States whicn might end it events which would require us to make efforts for self defence—l say there isno doubt the house would respond to the call and sanction the imposition of fresh taxes, in order to afford means fur taking such measures as the. Government thought necessary to provide a militia or any force adequate to the defence of the country. But fortunately such a consideration does not arise ; there nothing pending between us and any foreign State which is likely to lead to a repture. I therefore think Taut N, e should itiastain from calling on Parliament to gretv a ny extraordinary means until they arfe__requtini Thera are two errors into which men may be a r ll icasgi e nii 7 g overlooking existing dangers, a danger that has no actual exiasuteancteh; rehend that the not to f of a g(3".rnenent to avoid the latter as ea w no(tl e l it a l a s ttahkee dcuatrye all into the former. I do no i t app ely 13"- et. t state of things anYthing 111 40 C . to happen to place us in any difficulty at an earlier period than tt at in which we shall have restored our herne ferce to our ordi nary peace establishment. The uffeirt of Indio, are no doubt as serious as they are latnentnele, and win require continuous efforts to meet them ; but ae far, a , foreign countries aro concerned nothing has happ ene d to alter the condition of things which exlsten at the beei nn i ng gallant , friend In— of the year. My hon. and tinted net and everything that comes irons hire is well deservin g of consideration—among other things that which has been suggested elsewhere, the de i 'ability of sending through Eeypt the reinforcements destined for India. In the first instance this is a measure which apperecs to wear a eery favourable aspect; but there are enesidera tions (assuming that which my hon. n a il gall',nt friend justly assumes, that the Government of Tuneey and the local Government of Egypt would make no ahjectiou) sou fleeted with the transport of a number of troops through Egypt by way of Alexandria and iuez which make it a 'linter of great inconvenience ; SO much so that then the regiments from India which were sent to the Crimea by the way of the Re.l Sea had been sent on, our Corm. General in Eeypt stated that there were , o many diffi cuniee connected with the arrangem ews that bon ene n he shoul I net be asked tie make arrang- masts f ii. a similar proceeding again. In that c I:es, :gee every arrangement was made beforehand fer suinnying means of transport, and every preparation was made for f )cili tating the transmission of those regiments t o the Crimea. But, take the caste as it stands eoiV, and :suppose that tomorrow morning we were to send three or four thousand troop; to India through Eay e a Wile e w euln be the operation 1 We must be pr: pared not only with the content of the local authorities, but we Roost pre pare the means of transport across the desert, net 'only for an army with its baggano and stores ant pronieier a for the march, but we must be ready in the Red Sea fah a sufficient number of transports to carry them c a to India, We must write to :India, and the li en go.rern ment at Bomb Ay must provide trerwporte , and wo d them to the Red Sea ; which, as my hen. and gallant f r i en d knows, is very difficult of navigation for seilecg slips for half its course, and it is not likely that steamers of sufficient magnitude would be found at B enbay for the purpose. It would be a matter of considt.rat; on whether all these operations would not occupy so much . ime that troops sent overland through Egypt would prob sbly not arrive so soon as troops sent oat in ships wine , go round the Cape. It is very questionable whetter such en arrangement would tend to at ain the object sought. I will not mention all the objections connected with landing men and stores at Alexendia, and ',carrying them up to the railway, and embarks; them amain at Suez. These embarking: and disembarkings are, not car ried on without much damage to stores. It is no doubt true, as my bon, and gallant friend says, the force at the Cape is larger than is probably wanted, and a part of it might be conveniently despatched to India; and my r fight hon. friend the Secretary for the Colonies hers already written to the Governor of the Cape, stating that in ad dition to tee two regiments already ordered out, he may send to India such a portion of the g irrison of the Cape as he thinks can be safely spared. That having been already done, Sir G. Grey has a full discretion to send out what hoops can be spared without danger to the colony. More than that ; it having been represented to us that there might be a want of horses in India for the eavairy and artillery, arrangements have been made for sending a supply of horses from the borders of the Per. sign Gulf and from Mesopotamia, and directions nave also been given to purchase horses at the Cep) to be sent on to India for the same purposes. To touch liehtly on a topic which has been the subject of much difference of opinion in this house, the Chine war, I may say that even those who disapproved of what was done in that respect must admit that out of evil good has come— (hear and laughter)—for but for that, the force which was landed at Singapore could not have been there for , ervice in India—(hear and laughter)—and I "Pope that will reconcile some gentlemen who disapproved of the course pursued by the Government to events which pro duced this result. (Hear.) My hoe, and gallant friend leas suggested that we should revert to a proposal which was made during the war of raising battalions in our North American province. That is a matter worth consideration ; but at present I will give no opinion on that subject. But I may say that we were mainly guided in not giving effect during the Crimean war to the pro posal made in Canada by the circumstance that we were at that time engaeed in the discussion of questions of some difficulty with the United State:, and it was not thought desirable to withdraw from Canada any large body of men which might be required for the defence of those provinces. My hon. and gallant friend diverted to what is passing in India, and heroic energy displayed by officers, both civil and military, in almost every part of India ; and I must say, that while on the one hand the events which have occurred must be afilictinn to the feelings of every man, on the other band, every Englishman must feel a pride in his country men, when he sees that a few Englishmen be tttered all over that vast country havo been found equal to every emergency, and shown not only courage, but successful courage—(hear, hear)—who have proved themselves to be not only brave, but have exhibited skill and judgment —(bear, hear)—and accomplished things of which the peeple of any country might well be proud. (Hear, hear.) This is at all events a consolation and a satiefac. tion, and may be put against the darker side ef the pic ture. (Hear, hear.) I can only assure icy hon. and gallant friend and the house that while we are at pre sent doing what we think necessary to meet the difficulty Before us, and at the same time not going beyond what we think the existing necessity, if events should turn out differently from what we believe and hope they will, if times shoull come upon us which we do not at present anticipate, we have the resource of calling Parliament together, and asking them for additional means for pro viding for the defence of the country which the circum ,tances of the moment may require. Bat, as I have said, while it would be blameable in the Government to shut their eyes to the difficulties which exist, and the exer tors required to meet them, on the other hand, it would not be consistent with the duty of a responsible Govern ment to ask Parliament to impose burdens on the coun try which in their conscience they did not think at the present moment necessary. I have now etate Ito my hon, and gallant friend, with all deference to him, the points on which I agree, and those on which I niffer with him, and I can assure hiin that it is the anxious desire of the Government to do all that the present emer gency requires. (Hear, hear.) Colonel NORTH urged that it wan not advisable to drain this country of all its trained soldiers, and to rely solely on newly-raised battalions and the militia for our some defences. Even looking at the matter from a nercantile point of view, if this country was worth pre serving, it was worth any money which was txpeadod on its defence. Mr. BENTINCK said that the remarks of the noble tad would have been more satisfactory if he had entered nto some details with regard to the defences of the eauntry. Tile noble lord told them that if foreign nations .vere to take advantage of our position, the country would be found ready for the emergency ; but that was merely an opinion of the noble lord, and, with a Ire , pact to him, amounted to nothing. The noble lord went on to say that he saw no necessity arising out of the state 4 things in Europe for keeping up a large force in this country ; but that only rested on she nobly lord's opi nion ; and he would contend that the question of the de fence of the country ought not to rest on the point whether or not an emergency was hinny to arise. If an emergency should arise, it would be too late to take pre cautions, and to assemble the House of C enneons. and Ask for grants of money when it WWI too late. If the A nne lord had condescended to en er a little more into letails with regard to the defences of the country, it would have been more satisfactory then his somewhat vague statement. Sir H. VERNEY said that it was ell very well for those who were in comparative safety to talk coolly About the officers of India ; but what must be the teen logs of those who were in that country, when they thought that all that had happened had arisen from a want of foresight in those who governed India. It was cot possible to pass over this emergency and treat it by means of a few patriotic phrases. Why ought not a tele ;raph have been sent to Lord Lyons desiring; him to send six ships of the line to India, each 01 which ought_ to have taken a regiment fr om Malta or Corfu, and conveyed them to Madras o r Bomba y or wherever t h ey were required. What obj ection could there be to such a course / There might b e Euro p ean reasons why we the could have sent out troops from home h t n o ul, _ ;,,it gum. should have a large force in the Meditorranea,,nu;,pbluft w e place of those sent to India. Then, why b I ell the In. boats have been sent out which could no t u o p f the tlwns dian rivers, on the banks of which m a " ;:i di as A llaha. the 1t109.13111.83 ,„• bad. We had not taken he w ei, aiing was rased were situated I They could go up a which . we ought to have done, and . t i nn a ie e mpire. The fault did ninicapore, and as if there o w v a e s r n a o s the present government, but not lie with the . whichhie ought to have protested evilest with that house, end of the war. For instance, cifrisiits was in o t e u f r o n y course taken at the . artilleryman had been disbanded ; and, recruit as you w ould, you could not get those trained men anaiu. with the House of Commons and its false /Ault lay ;he r , h O e o c o e u economy. ivis. oefEWDEGA.TE said there were two conaidera• lions c onnected with this subject that were very much overlooked by the house. One was, that whatever pro spect there might be of immediately quelling the mutiny in India, it should be recollected that India must for years be garrisoned in a different manner to that in which she , had hitherto been, and the matured and tried .soldiers which had been sent .out must remain there. There ought,. therefore, to be preparations made to main tain in this neuntry not only our peace establishment, but such a force as would enable us to reitiforhe our troops in India, 'i. Then, with regard t o the militia, it wad . It was incouvenie. at no c onvert is into a stan d iu out of i in Dees was a force w in, th was intended. to tie cAli d re g e character as a fo , t ee reserved for an of emergency, at Id b y treatin g it a :werguenlacryawriasayditse. stroyed. a standing army in members wiehed 'So to keep up a rg • reciairen in a great ... that which VMS Mr. W. WILL JAMS was no la t surprised that many time of peace equa l .. War. nt ? It was on Government that of those gentlemen was onsider when a large force was they must depend in, ' u l' se of Commons had never refused the üßsenotfwahgaotvienrn :the necessary, and theßeto .opinion tilindtaa, overnment considered necessary. had come immediately after the G overnment would of course have the as in stood. The feeling of the - bowie retained the army [ any a y t r h i te: . r i m: h e u t i w i t n h u y i s e s i h itn n a , or Y the eva untry utdver: ally was ttat we ositi pa in India; hut the Government parties to consider by what means that the proper were that house with to be done, and . not - gentlemen in was The i 1 ttle military knowledge. lordtat and very .i.. of mustrecover Commons and P not.'present state of affairs, ' d for the le had told them that he was ready to do every t hin g which was require , but he W bound to ass q into the consideration of the people, which did no t s en t h te :r e Wit 6 a general con& considesr the uestion of the taxation of some hon. gentlemen.. country in the Govern. 1 deuce in the tiouse and in tli', THE NEWS FROM INDIA. The non-receipt of the Indian telegraph leads to an impression that the steamer from Calcutta may again have been detained by order of the Governor- General. The last and preceding steamers were detained respectively four days and one day. The Peninsular and Oriental Company have au- . _ thorized their agents at Malta to allow the packets bringing the Marseilles portion of the homeward Indian mails to touch at Cagliari on their passages from Malts to Marseilles, in case the Admiral on the station should be desirous of transmitting from that point a telegraphic summary of the intell;gence. This arrangement will in no way interfere with the due arrival of the steamers at Marseilles, but will afford the advantage to the government and the pu • • lllic of at least 24 hours' earlier reception of news by means of the telegraphic wires from Cagliari. THEATRE ROYAL-ITALIA OPERA. The early closing of the two rival opera houses of the metropolis has afforded to our manager an op portunity of commencing his brief season of Italian music before the usual period, and consequently of extending it, we presume. Be that as it may, the theatre presented a goodly artay last evening of our musical amateurs, and with them many strangers, who have come to see the wonders of art in another direction. The operatic troupe of the occasion is that attached to her Majesty's Theatre, under the direction of Mr. Lumley, including a number of vocalists whose names are Hew to the Manchester public. Among these are Madlle. Spezia, Madame Poma, ' and Signor Giuglini, who, with Signor Beneventano, were the leading voices in Verdi's "Il Trovatore," the piece selected for the opening last night. This opera has placed the name of Verdi Much higher in the estimation of the English musician, than any previous production with which he has favoured us. Extravagant as some portions of the story may be, it nevertheless is so skilfully adapted as to excite and sustain the general inte rest, while the composition contains several beauti ful and characteristic melodies, occasionally good part-writing, and, thow 4 tt somewhat overloaded with noisy instrumentation (the great mistake of Verdi), it is less offensive in this respect than some of his previous works. It leaves a favourable im pression, and hope for future improvement. The " Tacea la notte," for instance, is a brilliant and graceful air. There is something very dramatic in the one sung by Azucena, " Stride la vampa I" The duet, "Tin memento," is pleasing, as is also the baritone melody, "Il balen," whilst there is a graceful charm about "Ah ! si ben"—and many other portions are equally worthy of note. Madlle. Spezia possesses a voice of rather peculiar character. It is unequal, or perhaps it would be more just to sfimanyeertehiant notes , ti r t is tit sf v u a pl r o i e e wx d ep rr i e n sos q vi o n e nr a i i t tn y h to . ea W ufad i e t ii h elni tmeyeaenfconsist tys in g characteristic tone to particular passages, than in mere sweetness or fulness of organ. It is like true emphasis and artistic modulation in the read ing of a skilful elocutionist. Some of the se no t es , a t by their consistent management, s have have a very strik ing until the effect , f fe c t, style ocas b i e o c n o a m l ley; pe familiar, p ' bu a little harsh, very telling when the artist is fair l y und erstood. Indeed, Madlle. Spezia is a true artist in the best sense of the word ; not only in the mere skill of vocalisa tion, but in those higher qualities of art which are in relation with feeling and intellect. We do not remember to have witnessed a finer display of lyric art than in the last act, where with the " orridatorre," joined to the "Miserere" and the "Ah! the la morte," the composer has presented so fine a scene of dramatic interest. Signor Giuglini came to London at the commencement of the present season, and has shown that sterling talent requires less blowing of the trumpet than we are apt to suppose. His first appearance was in "La Favo rita"—there had been little said about him—there were no three-column articles preceding or follow ing his debut, but his position could not be shaken; his fine violine tone of voice, his graceful style, so thoroughly free from exaggeration, and the occa sional touches of pathos which he contrived to throw into his singing, won rapidly upon large and interested audiences, and we believe it is very long since a more legitimate appreciation has been ac corded to a comparatively unknown artist. In the earlier portion of the opera Signor Giuglini ap peared somewhat out of voice, but he rapidly gained upon his audience, and in "Ah ! si, ben moi," fairly " won his spurs." This brought a vociferous encore, and the gratification was fully maintained in the air frnm the tower. The whole of this last act was a triumph. We regret the inability to saa , much that is favourable of Signor Beneventano. His voice seems rarely to be under his entire con trol—it is loud withouth • ric ness of tone, and be appears to prefer breadth of effect to delicacy and truth of expression. With all his faults, and they are not a few, bis careful attention to the business of the performance redeems much that is unplea sant, an d is well -worthy of note. Of Madame Portia we have little to say ; the part of Azucena does not appear suited to her quality of voice, which is rather a mezzo than a contralto ; nor does the lady indicate that artistic faculty demanded in a character which the highest vocal genius on the stage had made her own.—Manchester Examiner. ROYAL MASONIC INBTITIITION.—Yesterday morn i ng there was an imposing gathering of Freemason s at the Royal Masonic Institution, Lordship-lane, between Hornsey and Tottenham, the occasion being an inaugu ration fete, under the presidency of the Earl of Z~tland, the grand master. DEATH BY DROWNING —Yesterday afternoon an in quest was held at the Regent's Tavern, Canal-road, Bow, on the body of Thomas Haigh, aged 56. On Saturday deceased attended an inquest as juryman at the London Hospital, which he left about six in the evening. Nothing was heard of him till Monday even• ing, when he was found dead in the Regents's Canal. Verdict, " Found dead in the Regent's Canal." SALE OF POIS.ONS BILL. Lord CAMPBELL said, seeing his noble friend the President of the Council in his place, he begged to ask him what course was intended. to be pursued with re up set to this bill. Earl GRANVILLE said that the committee to which the bill had been referred had received a great deal of evidence of a conflicting character. After giving the subject their best consideration, some more alterations had been made in the bill ; and, under these circum stances, it was thought advisable to postpone proceed logs with the bill till next session. It was therefore proposed to report the bill, with a view of affording the public the fullest information on the matter before a bill was passed on the subject. EASTERN BENGAL RAILWAY COMPANY BILL. _ _ Lord STANLEY moved the suspension of the stand ing order No. 179, to enable their lordships to read this bill a second time. The motion was agreed to, and the bill was read as proposed. MILITIA BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. The Court of Sessions (Scotland) bill was read a ,hird time and passed. The General Board of Health Continuance bill was read a third time and passed. The Itlicit Distillation (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Loan Societies Bill was read a third time and passed. The Burial Grounds (Scotland) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Jurisdiction in Siam Bill was read a third time and passed, The Municipal Corporation Bill passed through com mittee. NEW ZEALAND BILLS. On the motion of Lord STANLEY, the standing orders were suspended, and the New Zealand Loan Guarantee bill, the New Zealand Company's Claim pill, and the New Zealand Government Act Amendment bill were read a second time. ELECTION OF REPRESENTATIVE PEERS. _ _ . The debate with respect to the right of voting at the election of Irish representative peers was adjourned until Thursday next. ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION BILL. This bill was read a first time. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. NEW MEMBER. Mr. MELLOR, Q.C., took the oaths and his seat for Great Yarmouth. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the Tweed Fisheries Bill were considered and agreed to. PROBATES AND LETTERS OF ADMINISTRA- TION BILL. The bilLas amended was considered. Mr. WESTHEAD moved a clause in lieu of clause 91, relative to the deposit of records, wills, and all other documents in the district registry, so as to be easy of reference. After some remarks from the ATTORNEY-GENE IAL, Mr. WESTHEAD withdrew the clause on the under standing that words should be introduced into clause 91 to carry out the object he had in view where practicable. Mr. WESTHEAD then proposed a clause giving com pensation to the four advocates now enj , iying the right of exclusive audience in the courts of the province of York and dioce.e of Ripon. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to the clause which was neiatived without a division. Mr. AY RTON moved the introduction of the follow ing clause :—" That every person, to whom any com pensation shall be granted under this Act, shall, at all times when called upon, be liable to 6.11 any public office or situation in England under the Crown for which his previous services in any office abolished. by this Act may render him eligible ; and that if he shall decline, when called upon so to do, to take upon himself such office or situation, and execute the duties thereof satisfactorily, being in a competent state of health, he shall :orfeit his right to any compensation or allowances which may have been granted to him in respect of such previous , services, under sec. 19, 4 and 5 Will. 4 , cap. 24 ." The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought the statutes did not apply to cases of this kind, where compensa tion was to be given for a valuable consideration. He approved of the principle, and saw no great objection to its introduction into the bill. Sir J. GRAHAM, the author of the clause referred to in the 4th and sth William IV., thought its salutary principle should be applied to cases of this kind as well as to the servants of the Crown, whose particular case it was introduced to meet. Mr. WIGRAM thought some difficulty would be ex perienced in carrying out this clause in the particular cases alluded to under the bill. Mr. ROEBUCK supported the principle of such clauses, which he considered very necessary. It would be a mere sham to pass them if in the words of the At torney-General, on a former occasion, they were so soon to become rusty. He should next session move for a return of the amount of compensation to be paid under the bill, when he thought it would be found that we had paid dearly for the change. Mr. HENLEY supported the principle of the clause, but thought there would be great difficulty in carrying it out, and therefore he should vote against it. Mr. WILSON and Mr. E. DENPON supported the the clause. After a few words from Mr. SPOONER, The clause was agreed to and added t.) the bill. Mr. HADFIELD moved an amendment in clause 45, with the view of throwing open the Courts of Admiralty and Arches to all practising solicitors and attorneys. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that if the Divorce and Matrimonial Causes bill passed, that court would be thrown open. He had no objection to adopt the amendment so far as it reltted to the Court of Admiralty. . The' amendment so modified was agreed to. Sir F. KELLY moved the addition of the following to clatise 56 :—And every judge of county courts, having jurisdiction under this act, whose salary shall be less than fifteen hundred pounds a year, shall be paid out of the testamentary fee fund, in lieu of any fees for the business done by him under this act, so much money annually ae ' together withbis salary as a county court judge, shall amount to fifteen hundred pounds. Mr. WILSON objected to the question of the salaries of the county court judges being raised in this indirect manner. It was out of order to mske such a motion, and besides that the bill did not provide for the. payment of fees to county court judges, nor did it provide for the creation of a testamentary fee fund, and as the money would have to be paid out of the consolidated fund the hon. and learned gentleman could not propose such a clause without the consent of the Crown. After some remarks from Sir F. KELLY, The SPEAKER said it would be irregular to insert such a clause in this stage of the bill. Sir F. KELLY then withdrew the clause, but gave notice that he would endeavour to revive the question on the third reading of the bill. The amendment was then withdrawn. Mr. SPOONER moved several amendments to clause 99, giving county court registrars certain fees as an in crease of salaries, for certain duties to be performed under the bill. After a discussion in which Mr. Malins, Mr. Wilson, Sir F. Kelly, Mr. Bentinck, Mr. Ayrton, and other hon. members took part, The amendments were negatived on the same grounds as the clause for increasing the salaries of the county court judges. Mr. SPOONER then moved the omission of clause ga, and complained of the manner in which his pre vious amendments had been received, after his under standing with the A ttorney-General that the registrars were to be paid for extra duties by fees. Mr. WILSON said that list year a compact was enter d into between the registrars and the G oiernment, that they should in future be paid a fixed salary except for new business, not new duties. The amendments that had been proposed could only be entertained by the recommitment of the bill. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that he was not aware, when he introduced the bill, that such a com pact as that mentioned existed, as to its applicability to this bill. He intended the re g i s t rars t o b e pa id believing it to be new busi ness , an d to g i ve n qualifying themselve s f or discharg ing its duties. The ame ndment, after a short discussion, was how -1 ever negatived. • Clauses 101 and 102 were struckliut. Mr. ROLT moved an amendment, giving' compenea tion to the managing clerks of proctors. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL left the question for