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k , IMPEI:IAL PARLIAMENT HOME OF PEERS. Igi.DNESDAY, 'JULY 2. IN an Appeal from Scotland, Rae v. Newall, Mr. Alexander and Mr. Horner were heard for . the Ap pellant, the LOrd AdVocate of. Scotland and Mr. Adam for the Respondent, and "Mr. Alexander in reply, Judgment was then given on the Motion of the LOltD CHANCELLOR, at irrning the Decree of the Court of Sesiion, , with 50. costs. INDIA Lord 411IN1'O rose to observe, that in stating, the preceding, day, that no written Correspondence had taken place bet.veen ,the Board of Controul and the Court of DirecaorS since the issuing of His Majesty's Warrant for vacating the Commission of the Gover nor General and the Council of Bengal,,he conceived, from recolleaion; that he , was corre&. He now found, however, that since that. event, some corre 'spondence had passed betAreen those Boards ; but to the prodtiaion of which "he should obje&, and should feel himself under the t‘ecessity of opposing any mo tion for its produ&ion, unless some very, special grounds were stated. The Earl of 'WESTMORLAND (in the absence of Lord - Melville) thanked the Noble Lord for his in formation, and stated that ,it was the wish of the Noble Lord (Melville), in order to gain time for prOcurin , 6 further information, to postpone the Mo tion of kt , hich he had given notice, from Friday till Tuesday next. " Lord MINT° wished to know the nature of the Motion. He understood from the Noble Viscount (Melville), whom he had seen thfs - morni4 that he intended to move for the Papers Which were refused . yesterday. The Earl of WESTMORLAND, we understood, an swered in the affirmative. The Order for summoning the Lords for Friday was discharged, and renewed for Tuesday. • ROYAL FAMILY. Lord GRENVILLE presented a Message' from His Majesty, relative to making further provision for the younger branches of the Royal Family, similar to that brought down to the House of Commons. His Lordship moved to take the Message into consideration to-morrow. , —Ordered: The Irish Spirit Licence .Bill, and the Stamp Of fice Regulation Bill, were' read a third tune and passed. / • The-East India Shipping'Bill, and the Thread Lace Bill, were read a second time and committed for to ; morrow. The Post OFfice Regulation Bill passed through a Committee and was reported, _:Vi',ourned till to-morrow (this day). - - i 110 USE OF-C0.31,110X5. WEDNESDAY, JULY 2. Tlts- Insolvent Debtors' Bill was ,r4d a first time and ordered to be read a second time on Monday. The Bill fir rettdering mere commodious tbe Entrate to the two Erouses of Parliament, w•as read a first time and ordered to be read a second time to:- morrow. ' The Report Of the Committee on the •Expiring Laws was brought up, nod a 1 13 in ordered to be brought in, conformable to a Resolution therein agreed to, for regulating the Carriage of Coals by in land navigation to London. A Person from the Customs presented an Account of the Average Prices of Corn in the several Districts of England and Wales. On the Motion of Mr. WILLIAM SMITH the Slave Ships • Regulation Bill was react a third , time r and passed. The La'nd Tax Comnriissioner : e iclaine Bill went 'through a Committee and was ordered to be report ed to-morrow. The Irish Distillery Bill was read a third time and • passed. In a Committee on 'the . Postage Ails, the Reso lution allowing Non-commissioned Officers and Pri vates of the Navy, Army, Artillery, Militia, ' and I'encible Corps, to bend and. receive Letters' at a lower rate • of Postage, was repealed, and a new Clause was introduced, granting to all such persons the ; privilege of receiving and sending_ single . Letters on their own private concerns only for one penny. each, under certain RegUlations.---,The Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The Irish Prizage and Butlerage Bill was,. com mitted, and ordered to be reported tp-morrow: The Report of the Committee on the Scotch- Dis tillery Bill was taken into further consideration, agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on Friday, The Irish Poor's Bill was reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. WAYS AND MEANS In . a Committee of Ways and Means it was voted, that, to\varcis rat4i-oz . the. Supplies to be . gr:lnted to His Majesty, a sum be raised by one or more Lot-4 teries—in ail, of 100,000 Tickets, at not less than, 101. for each Ticket to be diawn a Prize.—Report to-morrow, , • The Irish Roads Amendment Bill was read a se cond time, and urder'ed to be committed tb-morrow. In a Committee it was resolved, that a Bbunty of ss. 6d. be granted on the Exportation of every Hundred-Weight of the Oil of Vitriol made in Great Britain.---Ordered to be reported to-morrow. The Ordnance Messuage Bill was read a second time, and ordered‘to be committed to-morrow. On the Motion of Lord Ho-wick., the Commit tees on the Greenwich Chest and Hospital Bills were poStponed till to-morrow. The MA3TER of the 'ROLLS gave notice, that he should on Friday move tbr leave to bring in a Bill for granting Additional Salaries to the Masters in Chancery, to the Accountant General, and to the Clerks in the (?slice. In the Committee of Supply, it was ordered, that the. sum of l ,poo,oool. be granted to His Majesty, to be paid to the East India Company, for the pur poseS of defraying the Expellees incurred by them in the Public Service. _ Also, that 3,000,0001. be granted for the. 4xtraor-. Binary Services of We Army in Great Britain for the year 1806. That 60,0001. be granted-for thp same Sgrvice iti Ireland ; Awl, That 55,.071.. iBs. Bd. be granted. to Alp Connoissioners for Docks, s,,hips, fkc. at Oliatt)am,, for tip:, purpo ; :qs, of the to-mottow. LINEN DRAWBACK BILL. Mr. FosTP.rt moved that' the Report on thi., Bill be taken into farther - consideration ; but after a few words froni Mr. STEWAHT, as to an alteration which be proposed to move for 'the commencement of the opeption of the Bill ; and a. declaration by the Speaker that such alteration could' only take place in a CoLnthittee, while, at the same time, . the Bill could not be recommitted after it had been engros sed; the farther consideration was, on Mr'. Foster's Motion, postponed till to=morrow. SCOTCH' FORFEITED ESTATES On the Motion of Sir J. SINCLAIR, the HOuse then went'into a Committee on the Scotch Forfeit= ed Estates Accounts, when, after considering the Report of the . former Committee, it was resolved, That the sum Of 9641. out of the Arrears of Rents of the Perth Estate, of . 1 ogol.. out of the Arrears of the Lovat Estate, and 12,0001. out of the unexhausted Balance and Surplus of the Rents of the different Forfeited Estates in Scotland, be applied to the'pur poses of taking down the old and ere&ing a new Exchequet Chamber in Edinburgh. That 75001. out of the same unexhausteg balances be applied towards the ere&ion of an Harbour in Wick, in Caithness. That 8001. per annum for ten years be granted out of the same Fund to the Highland Society of Scotland, for the purpose of encouraging agrictilture in that part of the 'Country, the Society becoming bound to pay the annuities to the surviving Officers of the Board of Forfeitea Estates during the said pe riod. That the sum of 20001. .be granted towards the ereaion of a Lunatic Asylum in Edinburgh, And that the residue of said Unexhausted balance or surplus be 'vested in the commissioners for Roads and Bridges in Si.:otland, for the puip.6sq of'promot, inir, Canals, Iron Rail-ways, Harbours, roads, and_ Bridges, in that country.---Report to-morrow. , A Message was received-from the Lords, stating, that' their Lordships had agreed to the'Stame-Ofice Regulation Bill, and several Private Bills, . MESSAGE FROM EilS mAjEsTY.. Lord HENRY PETTY brought up a Message from His Majesty, stating, that His Majesty having, ley Message of the sth April, 1778, recommended to the cotisideraiion of the House the situation of the younger Branches of the Royal Family, the House had in consequence passed in Ad, granting to them certain allowances out . of the Aggregate Fund. This however, had proved not an eN6tual , mode ot ,, meet ing tho intention of Parliament, which His Majesty suggested Would be more co / uipletely answered by ordering the allowances to 'be paid out of the Con solidrite7l Fund.. ifis Majesty, However, could not, on the present Occasion, tOrhearfrOm submitting to the , attention of the "House the great change in the v?,iw of money which had since taken place, and from stating his.expeaation that the House would make such additions ,to the said allowances as the circumstances of the case might seem to warrant. _ _ . , . On the Motion of Lord HENRY rrrry, the .V,l;es sage was' referred c , the Committee al:Supply. • t ' AtM TO its' 01.1..- , I Lord H; PETTY having moved the second 'read-, lug of'the Anditol-s' Bid, , • - . , . . . , , Mr. T. JONES asked the Noble, Lord for, an ex planation—Whether the public opinion which pre- , vaned, which he wl.ls convinced amounted' to this, tZtat there were 450 millions ; of .the public, 'no,. net unaccounted for; was to' be 'supposed well founded ? .. Lord H. PETTY could not conceive that any man, after the explanations already made, could entertain any doubt on this sub e&. ,The amount specified bythe tiOn. i Gentleman vas that of the issues of the ineney made, and which might be, yid to he unaccodnted for, the accounts of 'its disbursement not having paSsed through the proper audit, Mr. ROSE stated, that be did not expect the se cond reading to have been pressed this night, the Bill having only come into the hands of the Mem-. hers within the last two or three hours. Lord H. PETTY said he bad no wish to press the Bill, but thought the debate:on the principle. migh t as well take place on the question for the Speaker's leaving the Chair: To this Mr. ROSE assented. He had, however, er: 4 ous objeEtions to the principle of the Bill, which he thought calculated to raise the surmises to which •_ _ an Hon - . Gentleman (Mr. Jones) had just alluded. He maintained that nine-tenths of the stuns men tioned by the Noble Lord as unaudited had aCtually been audited before they came to be considered by the Commissioners of Accounts—by )vhom it had formerly been resolved, that it was an unnecessary Waste Gf the public money to audit the Accounts of the Navy, Army, Bank, Ordnance,' Customs, Sze. which Were aCtually audited, and etfe&ually au dited; previous to their coming befbre them. If the / se were laid, out of the, computatiod i , he ,Con 4-tided 'that not ten millions would -remain of At:- counts unaudited ; and if the Noble Lord 'at the Head of the Treasury Board, or the Noble Lord op posite, had been aware of this' circumstance, he was convinced the House would never have been troubled with the present Bill. , • The ATTORNEY-GENERAL argued that the Public had been led . into no mistake by the Noble Lord. It was true that there were some accounts that re quired only'a formal auditing ; but the fact was, that the Accounts were not audited, and this was, a. serious evil. No Account of the Paymaster of the Forces . had been passed for the last twenty-four years. Mr. ROSE said that he would afterwards shew, thct the Learned Gentlenr,,n was corlipletely 'in the wrong. Mr. WlNntwt asked how it came, that when all the parts of these Accounts 'were said to be audited, the *hole still remained unaudited ? • . Alter some observations from Mr. HustussoN, the Bill was read a second time, and committed, for Tuesday, Mr. SULLIVAN gave noticP, that in case tke in disposition of his Noble Friend (Temple) shOUld continue, he himself Would bring. forward , (he Mo tion which he intended to have proposed on Friday respating the Oude Charge. Mr. PAULL gave, notice, that on Friday he would present a Supplementary Charge against Marquis Wellesley tespeaina the transaaions in Oude. The, Militia Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. On the Motion of Lord H. PETTY, the Report of the As'sessed The• Atiowaikc Bill was taken into considerLti )n. Mr. HusKtssoN, after stating that this was an exemption from a permanent tax to counteract a temporary pressure, proposed a .Clause, by which was provided that a sum equal to the amount of - the exemption should be paid into the consolidated Fund out of the Property Tax. Lord HENRY PETTY agreed to thi; Amendinent, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-. morrow. The Report of the Bell Rock Light-house Com-; mittee was cousldered, and a Bill ordered pursuant to the Resolutions. VACCINE INOCULATION. Lord li' PETTY rose, in order, pursuant to no tice which he had formerly given, to call the atten tion of the House to the subjed of the Vaccine In oculation.—Though this v/as no political subjea, yet it was one so important to-the 'health and to the very existence of multitudes of the human species, F that it was well worthy the attention of the Legisla ture, as it certainly promised. perhaps to eradicate that horrid disorder the Small-Pox, He would net enter at present into any minute detail on this dis covery, as it bad on a former occasion been brought before the House by his predecessor. This interest ing discovery had been the result of the labours of one eminent Physician, who had been tOr 30 years solely occupied in bringing it to maturity. He be gan so early as the year 1777, and by slow gradual progress bt ought it to what it was now. In 17 . 88, lie rhoUght.of extending it by Inoculation, and hoped by this means the total extinction of the Small-pox. In 170, afterits beneficial effedshad been in some measure ascertained, it was submitted to the Public, and began to be generally diffused. In that year it had beep distilased in England ; 1799 it had been adopted kts America, not only among the White In- habitants, but also among the Indians, with all the success that its greatdst 'admirers could hope for, In 1801, it had been adopted on the Continent. the exertions of his .Psoyal Highness the Commander in Chief it had 'been diffused over the Coast of the Mediterranean. It had also spread in Russia and in• Prussia. But what he wished particularly to call the attemion of the House to, .as it was the circutn. stance that made the strongest impression on his mind; was the success which it had met with in the Austrian dominions.. He begged leave to men , tioo one fad. In the year preceding the introdu&ion of the Vaccine Inoculation, the deaths at Vienna,. by the Small-pox, had been 835. In , 1802, this discovery having been previously introdu&d, the number was reluced to 61, in 1803,, to 27 ; and in 1804, to two persons-; so that the annual saving, by means. of this discovery, in that city, was 83a persons. Yet after this it was melancholy to think that when the progress was so rapid on the Conti nent of Europe, and even its China, the motion in this Country should rather be retrograde. This had . , been owing to some objet ions that • had heels made tq the practice; but even these very objections fur-' niShed a strong argument for the Koposition which he was about to submit to. the House: But these objections had certainly prevailed in retarding the .progress of the discovery in this Country. Lon- . don, in 18.02, the deaths by the Small,-,pox had' amounted to 1311. In 1804, they had been' re (laced to 622. But in consequence of the preju dices against the Vaccine Inoculation, they had in the last year risen to 1685 ; so that they were fast approaching to their original amount: Under' these ; circumstances he had - been induced to bring the subjed before the Legislature ; . not with a view of proposing any compulsory , measure, for he was aware how improper it would be to propose any measure of compulsion in a case, where the persons most nearly concerned must be . supposed to be the • most competent judges where health and happiness was concerned. Yet it was the duty of the Leigis dature to endeavour to- enlighten the minds of the people, ,and to give to an useful discovery all the weilit which -their approbation could confer upon it; and he hoped that 'the House would strongly . feel the importance of this 'duty. His object was, that the Royal College of Physicians should examine into the case, state the condition of the Vaccine Inoculation iti this , Country, inquire into the causes that retarded its progress, and make a Report accord ingly. He would propose this with a view to have the' Report before the House early the next Sessions, when it would be referred to a Committee, in order that the discovery might have that increased action, which, if the Report should be favourable, must follow such an inquiry. And, if the result should be the corroboration of the o.pinion, as to the great benefits which arose from this discovery, it' tere was any truth in it, and if the principle was good, notwithstanding the objections, which might turn out to be muc exaggerated, then it would be .for the House to consider whether any reward , should be given to Dr. Jenner equal to the important na ture of the discovery, consistent with the glory of the British name, which had been thus augmented and extended, and worthy of the dignity and lity of this House. This would be a subjed of after consideration ; but certainly when such: .4 valuable . discovery had been made among us, we ought not to rejed it, but to be the first to adopt it, and make it as extensively useful as possible. Be concluder!; by moving, That an bumble Address he presented to His Majesty, requesting that His Majesty would dired his' Royal College of Physicians to enquire into the state of the Vaccine Inoculation in this Country, and into the causes that retarded its pro gress, and to report their opinion, and the evidence on which they were founded, and to order that this Report should be laid before this House. Mr. MA 7THEW S rose to second the Motion. He had at first some doubts as to the usefulness of, the discovery, and had attentively watched its pro gress, and the result was, that he was fully con vinced of its great value. The Small-pox Itfocula tion, he sorted, was liable to great objections.-- Death in many,instances ensued—though beneficial to the individuals, it was a magazine of contagion, and it had, besides, the etfeCts of stirring up ano ther disease in the human frame, which was the scrophula. The Cow-pox Inoculation was not lia ble to these objections, and he was 'of opinion, that in the cases in which it had failed it had not been fairly tried. He had no doubt that posterity would enrol the name of Jenner among those inve.itits cot vitam excoluere per artes Atyie sui til,:itiufCS alias fecere mcreiLto? Mr. VILBERFORCE expressed his satisfac, tion atihe ‘ ,subje4 having been brought forward by the Noblq, f.,6ra. He was not surprised that the People Country hacl .r .been, more slow in, al,. . , lowing the benefits of this discovery, as in - a free country every one was more inClined to judge, for himself; and to adhere with stubbortmesS, to .his epT pion-, even when erroneous. The causes bf the slow progress of Vaccine tnoculation here, he thought, rather arose from improper matter hav ing been, in some cases, used, and from the igno rance of many persons who inoculated, and who were not able ,to distingui-11 the true from the Use Species, than from -the efforts which had been made to discredit it in some publications, which, as far as he had seen, had been written in.sUch a tone as to render them 'totally unworthy of attention. He thought, however, that a Committee of this House,' and of the House 'of Lords, would have answered better than a Report of the College of Physicians. He agreed that no compulsion ought to be used, but at the same time he thought, that in cases where the parents chose to persist in inoculating with the SmallTox, certain Regulations ought to be pre scribed 'them, Which should prevent the contagion. spreading. IPlNDHipircontended, that it was impos sible that in a case of this kind the Report of the College of Physicians, given in this solemn manner, should not have more weight than the opinion of Committees of the Lords and Commons. He agreed as to the mischievous: consequences that resulted from a want -of care to prevent conta gion, but did not think that the case warranted even the degiee of restraint recommended by the last Speaker. 1l Tr. thought that the proposal of the Noble Lord united the adyantages.of .a Report from • the Physicians and' the opinion of a Committee of the House. . He would support it thereforebut he thought the Surgeons ought also to be consulted.. He thought that- Dr. Jenner, however, had already been amply rewarded. • Air. S. LEFEVRE concurred in this opinion. . P4UL4 mentioned that in Lucknow, while he resided there, the Vaccine Inoculation had made great progress,'and the deaths had been reduced from 600 to i 5 .. As the* prejudices existed strongly Scotland; he thought the Scotch College of Physicians ought to be consulted, . Lord H. PETTY, in reply, said, that he had 'considered the subjeo before he bad come to the ancl, from his own refleaion and the sugy gestions. of .others, he . thought the 'Retort ought to come from, one centre. The I)hysicians_ would, of course, correspond with the Surgeons, and those whp. were most likely to afford them informa tion. He contended that the Report of the Phrsi, ciabs would he far preferable to the opinion of 4 Committee, as a great deal might turn upon the kipd.of rnatter that ought to be used, and . the fix ing, if possible, upon some criteria to distingoists the spurious from, the true—and also upon the sub. je6t of the Reports as. to. this. inoculation occasioning other diseases. After a few wards from Mr. WM. Smtrrl in al. 'your of the Vaccine .4loculation„ ; the Motion wad agreed to nem. con. _ "l'he third reading of the West India Trade Bill was postponed till Friday. Tisi t e other Orders of the Pay were then, d4ose.4 of, and the House adjourned. MAILS. M*lyar).--I Dublin, r Waterford. Duz,--Oiamburgh l 3 Cotteoburgh t t Waterford. • • rillcE OF STOCKS THA4. 9/. Ar TvvitLvE O, I C 1. OCE C 04150141 64i 63 647 I 1244. Apo 63 011111iUM Z.l 4 THE. SUN. SOLEM QUIS DICERS EA:',V7/4 AODZAT LONDON; ThURSDAY, JULY 3, 1806: YESTERDAY we received .eifacrizan Paper; to, thp.. 27th of May. They are chiefly filled with accounts, ,relative to MIRANDA'S Expedition ; but those ac- Counts are of so diversified a kind that it is difficult to determine which of them is most entitled to credit.. One of the articles on this subjea, a Memorial from Mr. OGDEN, is ' of an interesting kind, paid confirms all we said when we first announced the arrival, cif MIRANDA at the place of his destination, We then stated,, in contradiOtion to reports confidently urge,d,, that the British Government had no; given, its sanction to 'MIRANDA'S Expedition. As a strong presumption of the truth of our assertion, we stated,, that Admiral COCHRANE, previous to. his send: ing home Dispatches on the subje6t, had writterk to MtaA;NbA to know whether he had any autho.. city' for. his proceedings from the Administration of this country, and in that case offering to, assist him. with the Force under his command. MIRANDA did not return, any answer; a fall proof that he had no authority from the Gpvernment of Great Britain, for otherwise he -would of course immediately have avail. ed himself of such a powerful co-operation. Admiral COMPIANE then, as we stated, prudently forbore to take, any 'part in the Expedition, but conceived it to be his duty to give immediate information to Ministers, that he might know how to aa in, a crisis which might produce events of great importance to the future commerce of this Country. But, although the accounts respeting MIRANDA'S progress do not agree, we are very strongly inclined to think that he will succeed. We laid before our Readers, some days ago, a minute and accurate detail of the whole of the Spanish force, regular and irregular, Native and European, in the Provinces of Caraccas, Cumana, Maracaibo, and Guiana, and the Island of Marguerita. The whole of this force does not ex ceed 1,3,00 men, and is 'spr,ead over an immense extent of Country'. The attack of Sir ITOmE POP.. HAM 40'1 'Buenos Ayres, though atasreat distance from the scene of MIRANDA'S ~perations, will ope rate as a, diver s ion in his favour, and contriiiiute to his success.