The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-05-17 00:00:00

Entlnt tat lartiament. ROUSE OF LORDS. MONDAY, MAY 13. Lord KENYON presented a petition from Putney, for the bet ter observance of the Sabbath. Similar petitions were presented by the Bishop of London from Edmonton, and various placed in Norfolk. The Earl of WINCHILSEA rose to call the attention of their lordships to a subject which most intimately affected their cha racter and honour. (Hear, hear.) He could not find language with which to express the deep indignation he had felt at the slur which had been cast upon the character of the peerage by the report of a trial which had appeared in the public papers, and which he— The Loun CHANCELLOR begged pardon of the noble lord for interposing a few observations for the purpose of stopping a proceeding which was premature, and might be found to- be fraught with inconvenience. Ile fully appreciated the senti ments of the noble lord in adverting to the subject; they were most natural, and were, he fancied, shared in common with him by the rest of the house; but he prayed him to consider what had, probably inadvertently, escaped his observation—namely, that the party in question was placed in a peculiar situation. — Ile had not, in fact, been finally convicted. It was true a ver dict had passed against him, but that verdict might never have operation. The noble personage to whom allusion was made might move to have it set aside, and until the four first days of the next term had elapsed, it was impossible to tell what would be the actual result of the transaction in question. He was sorry the noble lord had introduced the subject at the present juncture. Had he known of his intention to do so, he would have entreated a few moments' private conversation with him, for the purpose of dissuading him from a course of proceeding which was any thing but regular, and anything but likely to he useful. The noble personage in question must be considered as still innocent of the charges against him, until it were seen whether or not he moved for a new trial. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of WINCHILSEA thanked the noble and learned lord for his advice, and regretted extremely that he had nut had a .previous interview with him on the subject, which was one on which he naturally felt very strongly, iu common, he had no doubt, with the rest of their lordships. The Duke of CUMBERLAND had not understood how the matter actually stood until the explanation of the noble and learned lord. The impression on his mind was, that the noble personage iu question had been finally convicted. The Earl of ELDON said the matter must be considered as judicially pending until the term for moving a new trial had elapsed. The Loan CHANCELLOR said he was intrusted with a petition against the Stafford bribery bill from certain of the electors of Stafford, but he had ~,Yreat doubts whether he should be justified in presenting it to their lordships, because of the manlier in vs:wit the petitioners alluded to the proceedings which had taken place ou the subject in the other house of Parliament. Had the allusions to those proceedings been couched in respectful lan .(rlia:re there would, perhaps, have been no harm iu its preseu tation ; but the petitioners stated, that they had heard with in dignation and disgust the gross mistatemeuts which they con tended had been made on the subject in the Commons' House of Parliament. Ile, however, would leave their lordships to decide upon its reception or non-reception. After a few words from the Earl of ELDON, which were totally inaudible in the gallery, the petition was withdrawn. The' Duke of HAMILTON wished to put a question to the-noble lord at the head of the home department, upon a subject which hall already been before the legislature, and which he felt it his duty to mention to his Majesty's ministers, with a view to its alteration. The subject to which 'he alluded was the apotheca ries' act, which pressed very heavily on an important portion of the community—the Scotch medical practitioners (as we under stood.) He hoped the government wouldspeedily take the sub ject into their consideration, and that the existing law would be speedily revised. Lord NIELnou lINE said that the subject was one deserving of consideration, but it was not so easy or narrow a matter for con sideration as might be supposed. There was much of difficulty arising from conflicting interests, for, as far as he understood, en Edinburgh diploma would not enable the parties holding it to practise in Glasgow, and vi,,e versa ; and 'therefore, when there was no reciprocity between those two universities, it was not surprising that there should be none between this metropo lis and those universites. The Scotch diplomatists were not in a worse situation than were those of the College of Surgeons in London, who could not practise as apothecaries without a liLTuse from Apothecaries'-hall. The subject, therefore, was not so confined in its operation as appeared at first sight. The Duke of IlamicToN conceived it to be a great hardship to call upon medical men who had received a liberal education, both general and professional, to ask a license from a body formed sif persons whose principal qualification was a five years appren ticoship in an apothecary's shop. Lord SUFFIELD inquired whether the London diplomatists bad in Edinburgh the same facilities for practising as were en joyed by the Scotch practitioners in this country. The Duke of HAMILTON was not prepared to answer the question. TUESDAY. The Marquess of Hastings, Earl Nelson, the Earl of Suffolk, and. Earl Powis, took the oaths, and subscribed the Parliamen :try roll. STAFFORD BRIBERY BILL. On the motion of the Earl of EA oNon, the Stafford Bribery Witnesses' Indemnity Bill passed through a committee, when the amendments were adopted, and the bill ordered to be re ported to-morrow. The bills on the table were respectively advanced one stage. CORN LAWS. Earl FtTzwILLIAM presented several petitions against the Corn Laws. The order of the day for resuming the debate on the resolu tions submitted by the noble earl on a.former evening relative to the above subject, having been read, Earl Fur zw ILLIAM, in a speech of some length, moved their adoption. The Earl of RIPON moved the previous question as an amendment. _ _ Earl Frrzwitus.m shortly replied. The LORD CHANeELLop. then put the.resolutions of the noble earl seriatim, and they were severally negatived without a division. Their Lordships then adjourned at a quarter to ten o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, MAY 13. The SPEAKER took the chair a few minutes after 12 o'clock. Mr. BENETT brought up the report of the committee -on the Bath and Warminster Road Bill, and moved that certain amendments thereto be now read. After a conversation, in which Mr.G. LANcTot4 Mr. BENETT, and another hon member took part, the gallery was cleared for a division, and there appeared— For receiving the-report 49 For the amendment Majority —l2 Mr. J. YOUNG presented a petition from the dean, archdeacon, anti clergy of Kilmorc, against the Irish Church Reform Bill, which they declared to be unwise, unjust, and subversive both of the rights and spirit of the Protestant establishment. Mr. Ciures Look the oaths and his seat for Cirencester. Colonel L. HAY preSented a . petition from the ship-owners Of Peterhead, setting forth certain grievances which they attri buted to the reciprocity system.—Referred to the committee on manufactures. great number of petitions on the slavery question were presented to the house, and The SPEAKER left the chair at 3 o'clock. The SPEAKER resumed the chair at 5 o'clock. Mr. ABERCRONIBY brought up the report of the Tiverton election committee, which declared that the election, as regard ed the return of John Kennedy, Esq. was void. A new writ was ordered to issue for the election of a member for Tiverton. Mr. H nmE brought up the report of the committee appointed to consider the propriety of building a new House of Commons. The hon. member stated that on the 4th of June he would move that the house should adopt measures to carry the recommenda tion of the committee into effect. Mr. GoosoN said that he would to-morrow submit the follow ing resolution to the house—" That the negro population in His Majesty's dominions is entitled to immediate emancipation, and that it is contrary to the Christian religion that th e pro d uce of the labour of men in a state of bondage should be admitted into the British dominions." Sir R. PEEI, presented petitions against the Irish Church Bill from Barnstaple and other places. Mr. GOULBURN presented a similar petition from the chem.: cellor, masters, andscholars of the University of Cambridge. Mr. PRYISIE said that the petition was not unanimously agreed to. Mr. COCIIETT postponed his motion relative to Sir R. Peel till Thursday next. Lord G. SOMERSET hoped that the hon. member for Rochester would fix a day when the motion .Tespeeting the borough of Hertford woula certainly come oil, and also wished that he would explain the nature of his motion. THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. Mr. BERNAL said that he should be happy to fix any day that. would be convenient to the house. The first proposition which he would submit to the house would be, that the state of the borough of Hertford was one which required-the serious con sideration of the house. As to the substantive proposition, he was not prepared to state its precise nature, because he was not sufficiently informed of the district of country surrounding Het tford. _ _ Mr. WYNN said that the question should take precedence of other motions, because it was One of privilege, It was agreed that Mr. Bernal's motion, in reference to the borough of Hertford, should take precedence of all motions fixed for that evening. It was also agreed that Mr. Cobbett's motion respecting Sir R. Peel's conduct, in reference to the currency measures of 1819 and 18'2'2, should take precedence of all motions on its day (Thursday next.) The order of the day having been read for the house resolving itself into a committee on the CHURCH TEMPORALITIES (IRELAND) BILL. Dr. LEFROY rose to state his objections to-the'principle no less than the detail of the measure. After urging at some length his belief that the principle of the measure was calcu lated to lessen the spiritual influence of the Protestant church in Ireland, by narrowing the temporal influence of its clergy, the learned gentleman proceeded to say that did not object to the first provision of the bill—namely, the abolition of first fruits, taken by itself. He, however, could not but protest against the provisions of the bill, which went to impose a gra duated tax on all livings above £2OO. It bore no proportion to the first fruits impost, as that averaged but £321 per annum, while the proposed tax would produce £69,000 per anpArrn-.- Instead of this oppressive tax on the clergy, whose incomes very little exceeded, all round, £3OO a-year, he would impose a tax of Id. per acre, to be paid by the landlords. This tax would produce 1:50,060 per annum, and the clergy would be spared the burden proposed by the noble lord's bill. He objected to the consolidation of the bishoprics, because he thought that the duties which the bishops were bound to perform could not be adequately performed by a less number of them than the present. He warned the house against the ruin which they would inflict on several of the smaller towns in Ireland,.which were now bishops' sees, by withdrawing the residence of the bishops from them. A measure of this kind ought not to have been brought forward until the reportof the commissioners appointed lastyear to inquire into the church of Ireland had been made. This bill was, however, he believed, offered as a sort of set-off to the Irish coercion bill, and deeply did he regret to see such a sacrifice made to popular clamour. He could not but remem ber that the first sacrifice made to popular clamour and popular violence in the French revolution was that of the church; and the, consequence was, the monarchy and aristocracy soon fol lowed ; and if we went on in the same way, yielding to popular clamour and overturning fixed principles, we should come at last to a point, where we should have to choose between monarchy, aristocracy, and religion, on the one hand, or democracy and an agrarian law on the other. (Hear, hear.) Mr. FRENCH agreed in the principle of the bill, with the ex ception of some minor points. He thought that it was a manly, comprehensive, and wise measure, with one exception, and before he came to that exception he would say, that he con curred-with the hon. member for the University of Oxford, that it would be better to diminish the revenues of the bishops rather than to reduce their number. His main objection Was to that part of the bill which went to change the tenure of the property of the church, as regarded the tenants of such property. That would be most highly ruinous and unjust to those tenants. The noble lord (Althorp) had not shown him self acquainted with the value of such property to the tenants. The plan would impose a ruinous burden on those tenants, and wouldgive therein name no more than they at present possessed in effect—the property in perpetuity. The hon. member then went on to contend Vial this would be greatly unjust to the tenants,—that their tenure of the church property had been sanctioned by the usuage of two centuries,—that the church and the tenant had been connected by the strongest link that could bind man to man, their mutual interest—that the interest of the tenants in such property had been greatly overvalued, — that the interference m such property would establish a dan gerous precedent, which would shake the security of property of every kind in England, as well as in Ireland, and that the measure would ruin that most respectable class of men who were the great link of connection between this country and Ireland. He therefore called on ministers to abandon this unjust part of the measure, but, if they did not, he had still confidence that the house would not sanction such injustice. Mr. O'CoNNELL said that when the bill before the house, was first proposed, he considered it a boon to the people of Ireland ; but he owned that his opinion in that respect had been greatly changed. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The noble lord (Althorp) had led the house into a delusion on this subject—he would not say it was intentional, but it certainly was ,a delusion. He (Mr. O'Connell) had understood from the noble lord that the whole of the vestry cess was to he abolished, and to cease altogether. That cess, it was said, amounted to about £70,000 in all. Now, the noble lord himself must have known that he (Mr. O'Con nell) had so understood him, for when the noble lord had stated the ecclesiastical revenue of Ireland at £700,000 a year, he had asked him whether the remission to the people of 10 per cent. on that large amount could be considered too much. The fact was, however, that by the bill as it now stood, the actual relief to the people of Ireland would not be more than £IO,OOO a-year. The hon. and learned gentleman here went through some items of charge under the head of vestry cess in some parishes in Dublin, to show that these causes of soreness and irritation were to remain. On this ground he had strong objections to the bill, the only good principle of which was that of asserting the control of Varliament over church property. Lord Aurnone, in answer to the hon. and learned gentle man's observation, that the Protestant vestry would not be abolished by the bill, had only to state that it was intended to put an end to all charges by an exclusively Protestant vestry ; and, further, if there were any doubt on the subject, he was ready to introduce such • alterations in the measure as would set the matter at rest, and render the abolition unquestionable. (Hear.) But he was told by a learned gentleman near him, that the bill as it stood did abolish all charges by an exclu sively Protestant vestry. If the hon. and learned member's original approbation ot the measure were not derived from an expected triumph over the opposite party, but, really proceeded on the ground of vestry improvements, he (Lord Althorp) was entitled to expect the learned gentleman's continued ap probation, for the benefit still remained, and, as he had said before, if the bill required any alteration in order to secure the accomplishment of the object in question, means would be taken to secure it. The hon. and learned gentleman said that the bill did not go so far as he wished; now, he (Lord Althorp) felt bound candidly to admit that it never was intended to carry the learned member's wishes into effect. (A laugh.) He assured the hon. and learned member that the bill was Intended to abolish vestry cess. He should not go into the minute cal culations of the hon. member for Roscommon, but this he must say, that when the hon. member asserted, that the bill would inflict an injury on the tenants of church property, he was grossly mistaken as to the intent, object, and effect of the measure. The intention of ministers was to benefit the holders. of church property ; and they had framed the bill with a view to the accomplishment of that object. He could see no objec tion to applying the revenues of the suppressed bishoprics to the wants of the church of Ireland. The hon. gentleman had objected to the intended substitution for the Board of First Fruits, on the ground that it would be degrading to the church to constitute a new board of commissioners, consisting partly of lavineu and partly of bishops. He confessed lie saw no de gradition in the matter, and he thought it desirable to secure upon such a commission active persons properly qualified, who might'be relied on to attend, and not to depend solely on the gratuitous assistance of those who might think proper to be pre sent occasionally. Mr. GOULLIURN was not opposed to the adoption of useful and necessary reforms in the church establishment, on the con trary, as one who venerated that establishment, he desired to see it rendered as perfect as possible; but he must resist the present bill, which was calculated to retard the growth of the Protestant faith in Ireland, but did nothing towards the actual reform of abuses or the promotion of the efficiency of the church as an instrument for the extension of true religion.— There was nothing in the bill to enforce the residence of the clergy,—no provision for the separation of large unions of parishes,—in short, the measure did not tend to render the church more efficient. Its grand feature was, that it abo lished ten bishoprics. He did not object to the removal of the vestry cess from the population at large, but he thought that in professing to remove a grievance the noble lord left behind abundant grounds for dissatisfaction and agitation.-- His great objection to the bill was that it restricted the exten sion of the Protestant religion. The noble lord proiipsed to abolish 10 out of 22 bishops; if the number were restricted to 12, the hierarchy would be confined within such narrow limits that the remaining bishops would be unable to discharge the duties which devolved on them. Four Irish bishops would be engaged in Parli a m en t, f our i n th e new b oar d w hi c h w as to s it in Dublin, and only four would remain to discharge the episco pal duties of the sees. The noble lord spoke of the large sees. existing in this country, and contrasted their extent with that of some of the Irish dioceses which were to be abolished; but if there were a reform of the English church, the number of bishoprics ought t o b e i ncrease d , and therefore it was un fair to make the existence of an evil in this country a ground of creating a like evil elsewhere. He should not dwell on the benefits derived from the presence of bishops as teeidentzett try in Ireland; he was in 'that country in 1822, a peri of famine and pestilence, and had witnessed the carbons, per -sonal and pecuniary, of Trish bishops,-whose sees.-this'laill must, to abolish. The right hon. gentleman here eulogized the con duct of the Archbishop of Tuam on the occasion referred to, and observed, that the most rev. prelate's exertions were equally valuable last year, when the cholera prevailed, and many of the gentry had fled from their homes. He explained that this bill appointed a commission to-take care 'that religious duties should not be performed in Ireland; if service had not been performed for.a.certain time Ma parish,•the commissioners had ,power to prevent it ever being performed -again. Now, in his opinion, they ought to do directly the contrary of that, and of a parish so long deserted, peculiar care should be taken of the re ligious culture. The diminishing the power of the church of Ireland, to effect the spread of Protestantism in that country, which would follow from this measure, would not be compen sated for, he feared by the exertions of the voluntarily paid. mi nisters of Dissenting congregations, judging from the manner in which such exertions were treated by his Majesty's govern ment. It was but very recently that two Dissenting ministers in Ireland, who endeavoured to address the people there, with a view to disseminate amongst them the truths of the Protest ant religion, drew down upon their heads the reprobation of the government for their conduct. Instead of suspending the ap pointment of a minister in parishes where, through the negli gence of former ministers, duty had not been performed for some years, they should appropriate the vast revenues which they would derive from the bishop's lands to the filling up of all va cant livings, and thus endeavour to promote the spread of Pro . testantism in that country. Ile was firmly convinced that the happiness and prosperity of Ireland mainly depended upon the spread of the true reformed Protestant faith in that coun try, and he was convinced that if its blessings were more widely disseminated there, instead of crimes and outrages, peace, vir tue, and good-will, the never-failing effects, as experience had shown, of the efforts of Protestant ministers to establish the true faith, would universally prevail. For his part, he did not see what advantages the people of Ireland would obtain by the passing of this bill. He did not believe that, in a pecuniary point of view, the lower orders of the Irish people would derive any benefit from it, because an increase in the rents would no doubt take place, so as more than to make up for the burden, if any, from which this measure went to relieve them. In fact, instead of seeing in this measure any tendency to diminish the evils of Ireland, he was of opinion that several of the clauses of it would go greatly to aggravate them. This mea sure went to lessen the number of bishops in Ireland, and to diminish the number of clergy there, while it went to trans fer their property to the hands of lay commissioners, who would have no fellow feeling with the people. If they passed this measure they would condemn many parts of Ireland to the misfortune of never seeing a Protestant bishop, and of never being solaced and instructed in the true religion by a Protest ant pastor. Mr. Hume said that in no parish in Ireland should a Pro testant clergman be left who bad no duties to perform and no flock to attend to. He trusted that ere long the noble lord op posite, should he retain the situation he now occupied, would see the necessity of extending the reform in the Irish church. The doing so would be the best mode of promoting the real interests of that establishment. It was plain that unless the Catholics were relieved from every contribution for the support of the Protestant church in Ireland, there never would be peace in that country. He believed it was the intention of the noble lord to do so by this measure; and if such was his intention, nothing would more tend to produce peace and satisfaction in Ireland. He (Mr. Hume) would have the church lands in Ire land sold out and out. (A laugh.) That was the way to pro mote the prosperity of Ireland. Let the funds arising from their sale be applied as Parliament should think fit. They might de pend upon it that the establishment of a set of commissioners, with this and that power, would never attain the result that the sale of the church lands, as he recommended, would produce towards establishing the prosperity of Ireland. He should sup port this reform; he would go as far as the noble lord, and he wished he had gone further, and if the noble lord would not go further, he hoped somebody else would. (Hear.) Mr. SHAW was anxious to correct a misrepresention which the right honourable secretary for the colonies had, uninten tionally of course, made on a former evening. The right honourable secretary said that the Primate of Ireland had sug gested the reduction of the number of Irish bishops. Now, he (Mr. Shaw) was able to say that the most reverend prelate made no such suggestion. (Hear, hear.) No man, he was sure, would be more ready than the right honourable secretary to correct any error into which he had fallen; but he must be allowed to say that inconsiderate statements sometimes found their way and produced an effect where the contradiction never reached, and such statements were doubly mischievous when they proceeded from persons in high stations. (Hear.) I Mr. STAN LET said he was aware that the statement which he made on a former night was erroneous, and he had promised the most reverend primate that he would take the first opportunity of explaining it. He had stated that the most reverend primate suggested the reduction of bishoprics as the best mode of obtain ing the fund for the payment of the clergy. The most reverend prelate denied that he made the suggestion, and he would at once admit that he did not do so. The suggestion came from him, (Mr. Stanley,) and the most reverend prelate at once ad mitted, with great frankness, that if the fund was to be pro vided, there was no mode by hich it could be obtained so little liable to objection as the reduction of the number of bishoprics. The misstatement was evidently of no importance as regarded his argument on the opinion of the most reverend prelate, whom he had spoken of with the respect due to his talents and virtues. (Hear, hear.) Mr. PETRE approved of the general scope of the bill, but ex pressed his objection to that part of it which authorizes the application of the surplus to other than ecclesiastical purposes. He called upon Irish members to aid the efforts of government to allay the angry feelings which prevailed in Ireland, and said that he was not a little astonished to hear the hon. and learned member for Dublin, who was so ready to criticise the conduct of others, oppose the bill that evening which he had so warmly supported on a former occasion.—( Hear.) Lord CASTLEREAGH contended that it was idle to attempt to settle the question of a reform in the church of Ireland until the government had previously settled the question of the suc cession to the Irish secretaryship.—(Hear, hear.) They (the government) had, however, been most unfortunate in rendering the settlement of every question they took in hand more difficult than it was before. He concluded by declaring his opinion that the foundations of the church of lingl4 nd would be loosened the moment the interests of the church of Ireland were attacked. The Speaker having left the chair, Lord ALTHORP proposed that, on account of the lateness of the hour, the Chairman report progress and sit again on Wed nesday next, which was agreed to. The house having resumed, The Limitation of Actions Bill was committed, and after a few words from Mr. Lynch the report was ordered to be re ceived to-morrow (this day). On the order of the day for the house resolving itself into a committee on the Dower Bill being read, Mr. Bk.AMIRE moved that the law should remain unaltered as far as related to the dower of widows under the will of their husbands, and that the words "by will" be omitted. After a long desultory conversation, in which Mr. Strickland, Mr. C. Fergusson, the Solicitor-General, Mr. Tooke, the At torney-General, and Mr. Lynch took part, the house divided, when the numbers appeared:— For the amendment . . . . . 21 Against it . . . . . . . 28 Majority against the amendment . 7 Tho report was ordered to be received to-morrow (this day). Mr. ELLics gave notice of a motion that the house should to-morrow resolve itself in a committee to receive the plan pro posed by His Majesty's government for the emancipation of the slaves in the West India colonies. The further consideration of the report on the Lunatics' Commissions Bill was, after a few words from Lord G. Somer set, postponed. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at 3 o'clock. TUESDAY. In consequence of the ballots for the Limerick city, and Carlow and Galway counties election committees, the gallery was not opened until a quarter-past live o'clock. Shortly after we were admitted, the gallery was cleared' for a division, upon the bringing up of a clause on the Black Dog Road Bill, which clause was lost. Ayes Noes Majority -119 ,NEGRO SLAVERY. Petitions against negro slavery were presented by Mr. Benett, from Warminster (3); by Sir C. Burrrell, from Stain ing; by Mr. J. •Brougham, from Kendal ; by Mr. Philpotts, from Gloucestershire (15) ; by Mr. Adam, from Carmarthen ; by Mr. Beauclerk, from Croydon ; by Mr.. Blamire, from Henley; by Lord John Russell, from the Protestant Dissent ing Ministers of London; by Captain Dundas, from 400 female inhabitants of Greenwich ; hy 'Mr. Bolton Clive, from 1400 female inhabitants of Hereford; by Lord, Morpeth l from the females of Barnstaple and of Doncaster; by Mr. Diyett, from the females of Exmouth; b.y Mr. Shaw, from 5000 ladies of the city of Dublin ; by Col. Evans, from Westminster ; and k \ h .numerotarother petitions by different saem-erile" .the country. 2b, Dr. Lus.artiostais presenteitifeatfroin,,er of the Tower 'Hamlets, and upw. - .o,:a.tif 100 °''' , A 1 various places, all tothe same effect.. ; W V.:A Mr. F. BUXTON presented nearly 300 si t Tobsl eluding one from the female inhabitants of . ' j ot! Mr. F. Boxxon then said that he hada P et od y less than 187.000 females of Great Britain - not in conternplationten days ago, and all in 4 since was to signify that such a petition was le4l , London, and the signatures had been sent j u ir , di!11 tion from all parts of the kingdom. The ° ' c rsir r O was how to get it into the house, for he really tall it could be conveyed in. The hon. membe r 7 soon appeared, assisted by three other hon. P o , ,0 borne down by the weight of the enormous ni ce ero ever, by a vigorous and united effort, thersn r I'd upon the table, where, amidst shouts of 1aug7, 3 00, 0 1 to lie. Its further destination, however, bew i elt,d some difficulty, since it was impossible to ce,lltrj receptacle for petitions under the table, tin",,'" c o!oli the table it was clear that Mr. Stanley's v°''''l lt vr heard, much less could his person be diseer!, I site side of the house. At length some of i'";,l it, I called in, who very unceremoniously disPla ° j j it along the floor out of the house. Mr. STANLEY presented 15 petitions also O t r oO r f slavery, and upon his motion the house We n c d, e upon colonial slavery. Ai, 1 Nlr. STANLEY then proceeded to address fat/b9 commenced by expressing his confidence w o flF would not fairto extend to him a large sha re $ they reflected that, a ft er having been for 0111014 the office which he had the honour to fill, it a e o ttij in the discharge of his official duty, to briug ° 4 9 1 0 ration of Parliament a question of unparalle", in importance, involving greater interest perba/ to ttei tion which had for many years been submitt eu llier This question also was surrounded with difficil ii i nature, owing to the time at which it was brl, IF the safe and satisfactory solution of the goe s ' ' not only a maritime commerce amou nting l" 6 1 0 shipping annually, and a revenue of betw ee ) £6,000,0(X), not only the interests of a vast b e ; resident in the colonies and this country, w h9 ° B l9 o f i depended upon the issue of the question, bu t t it i interests of between 700,(XX) and ak,ooo of ° los and of their descendants throughout gener a e ifej( This was not all,—it was impossible not to Per C the ri A which the successful or unsuccessful issue of #9 ment now about to be tried must have upon t ° _,ls) subjects. These were difficulties enough to 8 1' 5 14 ventured to bring the subject forward. In th e .,41 0 he was placed, all that he could do was to co res he could pursue which would achieve the acs'Aio smallest risk of evil. The government was P•de c ) conflicting parties,—one havinc' a deep pectin' t , 0 question, intimately acquaintecrwith the subit r oo rili the colonies by social tics, and at present 1a".1 0 0 5 ,y/ barrassments which rendered them doubly :PllO O O ,O sure which might affect their interests. On :ivy universal and extended expression of feeling P e 4 0 try, and there never was a time when the ° te lt), people was more absolutely or more irresistab ~ cause it was founded on that deep re ligiouSA dr solemn conviction of principle, which adraitr'l3s il or compromise, and which pronounced itself ' el / no minister could be deaf. The time had eg a veli) liament could decide the question whethe r be should not be perpetual; the question now T e lfe t l f , what was the safest, the speediest, and inos i 's9,34 . , procuring its final and entire abolition. In ' nierif proposed his memorable resolutions, as an a eo — olli motion of Mr. Buxton, which motion was , ,:' to's?' purposes, similar in scope and principle to ti, of d were then about to submit to the considerat e 140,,,,i Those resolutions received the unanimous suPlwAjed and they declared that Parliament looked ce7 o t r t p through the local legislatures adopting cffi r , s tesii, legislation, to the final termination of the s„,) Tel , slavery too long in existence. They bad T a l l e r / years' experience of the effect upon the cole ° ,i c e„) that emphatic expression of the wishes and 1 , 0 fk,) and the mother country, conveyed in the ton - di al' , nition, and strengthened by the voice d atl o re was the result ? The colonial legislature s to se:o voice of friendly expostulation ; they seemed.o g oi, the voice of authority. They had doubtless, ' to yF adopted regulations since 1823, calculate d a il physical condition of the slave, but it was ‘ 7 „/0 , of their enactments which on the face of it A , the termination of the system of negro slave r : o i l the account between the colonies and the ''' yd thus : birii 1823.--Resolutions of Mr. Canning, Bathurst's circular : suggesting 1. Abolition of Sunday markets. '2. Admission of slave evidence. 3. Sanctioning marriage. 4. Abolition of taxes on manumission. 5. Prevention of slave separation. 6. Regulation of punishments. 7. Establishment of savings-banks. Strong remonstrances from the colonies 1824.—Order in Council. 1. Added establishment of protector. 2. Prohibited Sunday labour. 3. Allowed slave property. asif 4. Compulsory manumission. ° Recommended to legislatures and unal3l/13 (Hear, hear.) 1826.—March Ist. Mr. Canning. Test of sincerity. but "lel* Two Eoti r c e i l r y c circulars-general. i a s r r s e - g g a e r n d e e r d a . l_. Eight bills sent out and rejected by al l " 1828.—Sir George Murray. 1830.—Order in - Council, specifying 5°- of daring others to be necessary, as - duratioll (Hear, hear.) , pc,'" clothing, &c. Also disregarded.—(Hear.) Undoubtedly some of the colonies had it0 0° .,,,, of of carrying the outline of the shadow of s°'"ulis e oi a ff f r e si c iy a t • 11 5 ,1 s ir t u hs o t amt a l ie l mgt h ei o a ur d ttl ae s mu t •u ta d pn i a o wr u th s i e l o y only avoided enptelpereot having no property in slaves, and therefore PocilP to their mural and political improvement; . 8 013 instituted some partial modifications of thei.rocil gulations as a mere pretext , by means ot mockery The wholeof the elude the real intentions of the legislatutoxili the (I V (Hear, hear.) s thingwiwshasesoanodthfeeeflaincegsotolft ra 0 , 0 0 0 0 In thus showing the mockery of the ifi s o b i e :l le 4 tion of Parliament perpetrated by the c 0 1.5 0 01 i did not mean to slur over the few - benefic e ;., 0 0 0t1, one or two of them had made in refereog o , did iri t p by res a s n ea y I n v r i e sh an es s, o e f v t r e m in ot t h h e is r and the observance of the Sabbath. ."" - Oio ' bu_ 4 to e readiness to act upon the spirit of the recowict ing the Sabbath. But how was it with resg.s? commendations of the order in council of T orp or gin with the recommendation respecting l a ;c0 "' to o 'he order iu council e xplicitly . laid it of CO item country, C t ce ;g 6tl°- should receive more than a certain a moun t meat (39 lashes) in one day; that feinal° regi s w should be abolished altogether, and that bythe nishments, crimes, &c., should be keP t of sl s overseer, to be submitted to the protector reto ryi r then to make his report to the Colonial S ec p o lool v these recommendations acted upon by the. l s, test. Here, at least, was a definite and tang', of 0 ::( cerity. Here were recommendations, 0. 4 w oo came recommended by every principle_ iw the ir (il man nature; so that if there existed, 0 " „ c ot 0 1 tion of the condition of the negro est disposition to co-operate with Phaerlricawas.saa tunity. If there was any one recoui inend, i t j u v olit more than another to the manhood, the the corporal rtphoeralcoploonniisahlolicognitsloaft o f r e s o , ia i l t e s ta tt a re v l e ) s. Yra ( s Looo o t a o c t ri ii hear.)" It was with a spirit, God knew , , ate th, o l of deep regret and sorrow, that he bad to 5 ' ro cti,ar hour not a single colony had abolished th.„P u d err poral punishment of female slaves. (11,i0 hear.") In some of them, it was true, cer. the been imposed, but in those very restrictiolThoc f right and justice of the punishment was and in others, where some regulations resPoettsoi of the sex were adopted, the practice wa s .; of e tained. Talk of improiing the social halo. means and essential condition of his pol ti_ co i talk of developing and culturing his m oral 1 ,°,3 7 . of this monstrous abomination (cheers) t' t habit of respect and reverence for th e laws, °OOl behold in his white master a guardian, 9, u i ,„ r , of. tellectual instructor, while his wife, datrgiw-oc the mere mercy, the wanton caprice, of sua 11 / 4 1 ; 4 5 1 . 1 b et eet ttl [C2ftj klig t4 4 4 : 1 the Atm ag N i t i o % t of iit. a s I or lon t, s hnui e. ea ,!%74 4 , ikty ° NI 4 m th etio .44 ro are 6,tti t4 t t:t t l t 4i 4 4t t hq Ll] 4nh, a ". ~~2 A~_ 4.v.: , 12 471 1 tj s t b4111 .4 1 Dtt