The Sun. — London, England, 1857-08-11 00:00:00

Naval and Military intelligence. Yesterday, Colonel E. A. Parker, commandant of the Chatham division of Royal Marine Light Infantry, received directions for the four companies of that division under orders to proceed to China to leave Chatham this morning, under the command of Lieutenant-Colonel A. S. S. Walsh, and to pro coed to Portsmouth, for the purpose of embarking on board the Itnperatiz, with two companies for the secolini battalion from the Woolwich division. The Chatham division will furnish 350 men of all ranks, with th© following officers—viz , Captain F. B. Grittan, C a ptain J. C. D. Morrison, Captain C. J. Ellis, aptain P. M. C. Croker ; First Lieutenants R. L. Evans, J. F. Hawkey, and E. Willis ; Se cond Lieutenants H. Wolrige, W. J. Btrker, J. Straghan, and L. Rokeby. First Lieutenant J. C. Francis has been appointed Adjutant ; and First Lieutenant C. W. Carrington, Quartermaster to the first battalion. The Imperatriz will embark 506 men of all ranks. The following officers and men will proceed from Chatham garrison this day and embark at Gravesend on board the Agamemnon for India—viz., 10th Foot—Capt. Cator, Lieut. Lucas, Lieut. Arm strong, and Ensign Ball ; 84th Regiment—Capt. Du 'Vernet, Lieut. Davidson, and Lieut. Chute, together with 250 non-commissioned officers and men of those regiments. Yesterday the reinforcements for the 64th and 86th regiments, numbering 120 men of all ranks, left Chatham and embarked at Gravesend on board the Ghenghis Khan for Calcutta, under the com mand of Lieut. T. R. Hamilton and Lieut. V. G. Coates, 86th Regiment. Gen. Sir H. D. Ross, Adjutant-General to the Royal Artillery, accompanied by Col. Bloomfield, aide-de-camp to the Queen, doing duty as comman dant of Woolwich, and attended by the garrison staff yesterday morning inspected on parade the follow ing troops and companies under orders for India Lieut.-Colonel Turner's troop of Royal Horse Ar tillery ; Lieut.-Col. Gordon's company, ordered to Calcutta ; Major Godby's company, to Madras ; and. Capt. Palmer's and Capt. Ommanney's com panies, for Bombay. They then proceeded to the cantonment on Woolwich-common, and inspected Capt. Gibbons's Q battery, Capt. Radcliffe's T battery, and Capt. Connell's X battery, awaiting a final order for embarkation. One sergeant and 28 gunners under orders for Hong Kong, to join the 3d company of the 6th battalion of Royal Artillery there, were also paraded in heavy marching order, and passed the inspection of the Adjutant-General. The bead-quarters of the Royal Marine Artillery about to proceed to China in command of Colonel Holloway, Aide-de-Camp to her Majesty, having been supplied with a similar equipment to those used by the Royal Artillery corps—namely, the short rifle (about two feet shorter than the Enfield muzket), short sword, and pouch belt, &c.—were yesterday morning put through a course of artillery drill by drill-sergeants of the Artillery battalions. The following general orders have been issued at Woolwich : " His Royal Highness the General Commanding-in- Chief has been pleased to make the undermentioned ap pointments—viz., Lieut.-Col. H. Aylmer, to the com mand of the Ist battalion Royal Artillery at Woolwich, vice Faddy, ordered to India; Lieut.-Col. W. J. Smythe, to the command of the 9th battalion Royal Artillery at Woolwich, vice Riddell, ordered to India ; Lieut. C. L. Tredcroft, to Lieut. Col. Turner's ti 00 )9 of Royal Horse Artillery, under order for India, vice R .venhill, who has resigned his appointment in that bri ao'i of the service." The Pylades, 21, Capt. De Horsey, went into Portsmouth harbour after the French squadron left, Osborne yesterday. The Warrior Queen, freight ship, was at Spit head at sunset last night. The Sarah Sands, steam transport, went into Poi tsmouth harbour yesterday to prepare for the embarkation of the 54th Foot on Thursday fir India. The Curacoa, 31, steam frigate, Capt. A. Forbes, anchored at Spithead yesterday from the Mediter- ran.?an. The Barracouta, 6, paddlewheel sloop, Comman der Forteseue, and the gun boat Stork, Lieut.- Commander Ward; returned to Spithead (the latter with the boats of the fleet to Portsmouth harbour) yt sterday afternoon. The following promotions have been made, to Ice it. date th Bth inst. Commander A. Boyle, Commander Byron Drury, and Commander W. Morris to be captains ; Lieu tenant S. F. Trernl,:tt and Lieut. L. J. Parish, to be commanders ; Commander A. M`G. Skinner (1828) to be captain on the reserved list ; Mr. J. H. King, to he commander on the retired list. The following appointments have been made at the Admiralty : .Lieut. H. Berkeley, to command the Forward ; Lieut. J. Murray, to command the Shipjack ; the Rev. A. Browne, tobe chaplain to the St. Vincent; J. Roire, mate, to the Mohawk ; W. J. Stevenson, midshipman, to the Pylades ; G. F. A. Parker, naval cadet, to the Pylades ; J. E. Charlton, as sistant-clerk, to the Chesapeake ; G. J. Gibbon, to be agent of mails. THE CAUSES AND CURE OF TEE MUTINY Is INDIA. Last night J. H. Stocqueler, Esq., delivered a lecture in Willis's Rooms, St. James's-street, on this subject to an attentive and deeply-intereAed audience of ladies and gentlemen. Having spent many years in India in the set vice of the company, and as a journalist, and having altogether, for the last 30 years, devoted bis attention to Indian sub jects, he felt desirous of placing his views before his fellow-countrymen, at a crisis which Mr. V. Smith, the President of the Board of Control, had declared to be one of the most awful in history. Twenty years ago Mr. Macaulay had drawn a contrast between the knowledge possessed by the English people of Clive and. Cortez—of the latter they knew everything, of the former nothing—though the cne was a conqueror of mere savages, and the other the conqueror of populous countries, whose inhabitants were far advanced in civilisation, in the arts of luxury, and possessed cities of greater magnitude and wealth than were to be found in Spain. That reproach of ignorance had not been removed. It was only when some such awful events as those which now engaged the interests and awakened the sympathies of the masses occurred that the people paid any atttention to India. Even now everybody was only anxious that Delhi should be taken, just as they we re fo r th e ver di c t i n th e cases of Palmer and Mad e leine S m ith, an d th a t event over, it . was to be feared they would sink into their old apathy on Indian subjects. To pre vent such a result, it was his duty, and that of all who knew anything of Indian policy, to exert themselves to the utmost in order to maintain pub lic interest in the question until a sufficient altera tion was made in the government of India as would give a reasonable prospect of saving India to England. Mr. Stocqueler (who greatly as sisted his hearers by frequent and apt references to a large sketch map of India in the course of his lecture) then proceeded to give a brief, but striking account of the way we came by India, the igin of the mutiny, and the remedies he suggested. lie traced back the severance of fellowship between the English officer arid the Sepoy to 1824, when the alteration in the charter of the East India Com pany no longer induced the European officer to look upon India as his home, and the Sepoys as attached subordinates, whose fidelity depended upon his own handling of them. Subsequently to that, the native troops were for the first time ordered to march into foreign territories, and fight battles for objects of which they knew nothing. There were partial mutinies, and•simultaneously such a relaxation of discipline as tended to encourage that mutinous spirit. Lord W. Bentinck, one of the most humane of men, abolished flogging, contrary to the universal remonstrauceof the of - freers of thearmy, and the Sepoys found, in many instances, that simple discharge w. s a premium upon mutiny and crime. Then, in consequence of the increase of territory and the demand for men on the staff, en gineering, and civil departments, officers were drafted off from the army in large numbers, and those who remained with their regiments were look t e h d e u a pon by the native soldiery as mere Pariahs. At all no time the Indian Government pursued )11.tb?Iselnsciiste;A course with respect to the religious ;od flincloPo. Vices of the people, both Mussulman ghaut kiacritice, a e n y d aboTished suttee, infanticide, the y Iti,other sacred observances, while -Ley cashiered frolic shot a pe : o3, g l officers who in innocence or in rhisown part he wouldhold t a n terms whatever wittorTi either the Mohammedan or the Hindoo religions, ycoustituted a gangrene in the heart of the country, al were the gr e at source of the treache r y, cruelty, and falseho o d which had characterised hc,thracesfr t ,al niorial. The old English rulers knew th e / y in : them hs s —paye timme them well, aed flog therm y t o their heart's content when they needed it. B e was h au ' r i prised to hear Lord Ellenborough and others - ay that when this mutiny was quelled we must re-em ploy the Sepoy, and treat him kindly, in order to attach Min tons in future. He had no faith in them, and front his experience, said there was no need of thorn. A few of the natives might be employed as a police force, under direct European inspection and discipline, but that was all that was needed. The sho r t and simple remedy for these evils in future was to take the government of India into the hands of the people of England—to abolish the system of double government—to encourage Eng li-hmen of education, energy, and enterprise to enter into th e service of the Government —to pro tect individual energy and enterprsa devoted to industrial and commercial pursuit. ; and be be lieved that by thus taking upon ourselves the THE labour and the responsibility of governing a great empire, we should not only save, but make it more valuable than ever. The lecture was warmly applauded. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS-(YESTERDAY.) The General Board of Health Continuance Bill and the Attorney and Solicitors (Colonial Courts) Bill passed through committee. The Municipal Corporations Bill also passed through e)mmittee. The Superannuation Act Amendment Bill was read a third time and passed. The Illicit Distillation (Ireland) Bill, and the Lorin Societies, the Burial-ground (Scotland) Act (1855) Amendment Bill, and the Valuation of Land (Scotland) Aet Amendment Bill, the Summary Proceedings before Justices of the Peace Bill, went through committee. The Fraudulent Trustees Bill, and the Trustees Relief Bill were read a third time and passed. The Jurisdiction in Siam Bill went through com mittee. 14-)rd MONTE AGLE called the attentien of their lordships to a petition presented by the Earl of Carysfort on the sth inst., praying for his recognition as a mem ber of that house. The noble lord explained the case of the petitioner to be one in which an Irish representative peer was prevented from the exercise of hie rights by a standing order of their Icrdships' house, and suggested that the said order should be amended, so as to allow of justice being done in the case of the noble earl to whose petition he had referred. Lord REDESDALE deprecated any interference with the standing order which prevented the recognition of the petitioner, at that late period of the session, ai.d with so few of their lordships present. That resolution had been adopted at a time when there was a full attendance of Irish peers, and it would not be fair to interfere with it now. Lord CAMPBELL supported the proposition of the noble lord behind him (Lord Mouteagle). The LORD CHANCELLOR was of opinion that the case should be met by amending the standing order, and tbat there was no necessity to wait for another session of Parliament. Lord MONTEAGLE postponed the motion, and gave notice of a motion for to-morrow, for amending the standing order in question. The Bishop of OXFORD presented a petition from the archdeaconry of Bath against the Divorce Bill. Their lordships then adjourned at 20 minutes to 7 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-(YESTBRDAY.) DIPLOMATIC AND CONSULAR SERVANTS. Mr. WISE asked the Secretary to the Trea3nry whether it was intended to abolish the system of deduc ii ons being made by certain officials at the Foreign-office rom the salaries paid to her Majesty's diplomatic consu lar servants abroad. Mr. WILSON said that in point of fact no deduction• were made. The persons referred to were clerks in the Foreign-office, who acted as agents for the diplomatic officers, and were paid these sums in remuneration for what they did. The Government intended shortly to alter the system. OATHS 'TAKEN . BY MEMBERS-REPORT OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE. Lord J. RUSSELL brought up the report of the select committee appointed to inquire whether the 5 and 6 William IV., chap. 52, was applicable to the oaths taken by members. It was read at the table of the house, and stated that the committee had considered the subject, and had came to the conclusion that it was not applicable to oaths taken by members of that house. Lord J. RUSSELL said it would be impossible for him to proceed with the Oaths Validity Act Amend ment Bill this session, and he should move that the order for its second reading should be read and discharged. It would be necessary for Parliament to consider this question at the commencement of the next session— (hear, bear)—and he gave notice that he should bring it again under the consideration of the house. (Hear.) The order was then read, and the bill withdrawn. OATHS, atc., COMMITTEE. _ On the motion for the house going into Committee of Supply, Mr. NEWDEGATE moved for a list giving the name of every member who has each day attended the com mittee on oaths taken by members : and similar list after sitting of the above committee.—Agreed to. THE NEW GOVERNMENT OFFICES. Mr. HOPE moved that an humble address be pre sented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty to appoint a royal commission to consider the site and plans of the proposed new public offices, and particularly the Foreign and War Offices, and to report on the same. He was induced to ask for this commission in] consequence of the judges having adopted a block plan of a different character to the ele vations, the effect of which was that they were not adapted one to the other, and if attempted to be carried out would entail an immense expense, and be after wards found to be a failure. Elealso complained of tLare being two separate buildings—one for the war and the other for the foreign-office, instead of one building suffi ciently large to accommodate both Departments. The cost of the site in Downing-street and Charles street would be 170,0001. That might be saved, if Government adopted his suggestion, by building these two offices on part of the parade ground in St. James's park. It would also prevent the demolition and re building of the Colonial-office and other public buildings. His proposal would form part of a great whole, which would follow, and leave those streets which the Govern ment proposed to take for the offices to be thrown open so as to carry St. James's-park down to the river. He contended that all the buildings should be under one roof, and should communicate with each other by pas sages and telegraphs, and staircases. Upon everyground he required further inquiry, for there had not been suf ficient investigation, and the public keew nothing abut the matter. He concluded by submitting the motion of which he had given notice. Col. PENNANT seconded the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the effect of the motion if carried would be to take the subject out of the hands of Government and to place it in the hands of a royal commission, that would virtually lave to decide the sites for the proposed buildings. He mol dered it very objectionable to refer the subject to a royal commission. It left in the hands of the Executive, they would consider not only the plans with reference to what was most convenient combined with a reasonably amount of decoration, hut also the amount of public money that would be required. A royal commi%ion would proceed in a different manner. They would con sider that the best manner in which the object in efew could be accomplished would be by deciding on not silly the best site, but the largest plan, with the greatest amount of decoration, as conducive to the embellishisent of the town, without regard to cost. He felt unabl 3 to accede to the motion, on the grounds that it would either engage the house in a useless and unnecessary expense in comparison with the object to be attained, or create another delay by laying before the Government another set of plans framed on so extravagant a scale as would lead to their rejection by them (hear, hear). Ile Government proposed, and all that they wished in this session of Parliament was to obtain such a want of public money as would enable them to acquire a site sufficient for the erection first of a Foreign office, and afterwards of one or two offices as cireum• stances might require. Beyond that the Government had no desire to go, and he assured the house that the Government were by no means ambitious of embellishing the town with extensive elaboratedly decorated public buildings. Lord - J. RUSSELL objected to the course pursued by the hon. member for Maidstone, and complained of the somewhat strange course adopted by the Government (hear, hear)—first in asking for plans of buildings of a handsome description; and after the artists had displayed their ability, and furnished them, to be informed that the Government bad no site on which to erect them. (Hear, hear.) It was not a practical course of proceed ing. If the Government only intended to spend a limited and reasonable sum of money in the erection of public offices, they should have informed the artists of it, and the site, and have asked for pl ans accor d. ingly. He considered that if the Government required the erection of several offices, it would be better to have them in one building rather than in distinct erections. As the Government had determined upon throwing the plans on one site, he hoped that when they came to that house for a sum of money, they would be in a position to state exactly what it was they did want. When he examined the plans exhibited in Westminster Hall be considered them very handsome, and that tbey partook more of the character of palaces than public offices, and he cautioned the Government against a repe tition of the blunder that had been committed in refer ence to Buckingham Palace, which had cost the country nearly a million of money. After some remarks from Sir D. NORREYS, Sir B. HALL said that the present Foreign and Gilo nial Offices were in a very ruinous state, requiring either to be rebuilt, or a large sum of money expended on them to make them secure; and the War -office required a larger building, so ai to concentrate the six or seven branches that were scattered about the West-end under one roof. Last year the committee that sat on public offices decided it was desirable that the public offices should be concentrated, and that if it were necessary to rebuild them, to call in the most competent talent that the world could produce. In consequence of that recommendation he waited on the Government, and, ac cording to their instructions, he took the necessary steps for remedying the evils cAnplained of. Oae general plan was laid down for the building of the offices that would, if required, form in the end one whole, on which sure veyors were called on to furnish specifications for laying out the ground from Downing-street to Richmond-ter race on the north, and from Westminster-hall to Great George -street on the south. Before sending out the spe oiillcati?ns he communicated w ith th e F ore i gn an d C, : 1 0 - ual Ministers, and was informed of the number and size of the rooms required for carrying on the business of ternplated their° eaiciotion specified. It waser their reepeotivdepartments, and the plans sent is con o consequencenthe amount o o fu thet o complaints space he thathad had been made a architecture and g de n . st our public buildings as regarded tects of the world, sign that he appealed to the archi the manner in which it wac responded to had been Nv't be lieved bad met with general favour. by all, and he Among the designs were several from (Hear, hear ) America. It would be for the house to consider Wi r i:Th e that had been selected were too grand and too oo the designs and ought not to be proceeded with ; but, at the time, be begged to remind the house that they Were none' of them too large for efficiently conducting the business SUN, LONLON, TUESDAY EVENING AUGUST 11, 1857. of the public service. What the Government now pro xxo3ed was, to acquire the ground in the neighbourhood of Downing-street: on which two or three public offices should hereafter be erected. No steps, would however be taken with zegard to expenditure until the house had sanctioned it ; but in the recess Government woull con sider the merits of the respective designs, with a view of submitting a plan for the consideration of Parliament next session. (Hear.) Mr. HENLEY considered that the motion of the hon. member for Maidstone would place them in a worse diffi culty than they were at present, that of having designs, but no site on which to erect them. Before the Govern. ment decided on receiving designs they should have pro cured a site. It was a great hardship, and he did not con sider it honest on the part of the Governme n t, to h ave given those gentlemen who had sent in designs so mach trouble, and have put them to so much expense, and then tell them that they had no intention of carrying their plans out. (Hear, hear.) A great deal had been said about the emergency of the case, from the Foreign-office, and especially the Colonial-office, being in so bad a state that fears were entertained of its falling. He admitted the offices were in a bad state, and the latter premises had been falling for the last 29 years ; but he thought it was likely to last for some time longer—at all events till they bad had an opportunity of considering and deciding on the plan to be submitted. Mr. BRISCOE objected to the magnitude of the de sign for the Foreign-office, which would require an out lay of 380,0001. He considered a reception-room, ts pro menade-room, a double colonade for flowers, and a central ball, 50 feet in length, for music and suppers, in compatible with a building for the transaction of public business. The design was a very beautiful thing, but it was only a copy of the Hotel de Ville. If a Foreign Minister was compelled to hold receptions after a style the building indicated, he thought the result would be that when they had a needy Foreign Secretary, Parlia ment would be obliged to bear the expense. Another item for expense to be looked at was, that of furnishing such a mansion in a suitable style. Mr. TITE objected to a greater outlay at first, by way of experiment, than 400,0001. or 500,0001. for offices which he thought could be erected on the ground in Downing-street, and he warned them from committing a similar blunder to that in connection with the houses of Parliament, where the expenditure had exceeded the estimate of 850,0001. by nearly two millions. The erection of the two designs that had been selected —one in the Renaissance style, and, to a certain extent, a copy of the Hotel de Ville ; and the other, half French and half Italian, with the houses of parliament near them, would produce the most incongruous appearance, and would be such as no man of taste could for moment tolerate. He urged on the Government not to embark in building speculations without having first well considered their plans, or they would involve them selves in an outlay that would in all probability extend from five to ten millions. The house then divided, when the numbers were— Ayes l3B Noes Majority The amendment was therefore lost On the motion that the Speaker to leave the chair, Colonel NORTH called the attention of her Majesty Government to the hardship inflicted on a large and me. ritorious class of officers by the operation of the roya' warrant issued in October, 1854, by which it became law that after an officer had commanded a regiment for three years—perfectly irrespective of the number of years be had served in the army—that officer was entitled to become a full colonel. The consequence was that mere boys, in point of service and exper►ence, were pro moted over the leads of officers who had served with the utmost credit and gallantry in all parts of the world. The subject had been brought under the notice of the Government a year and a half a.:o, and again at the end of the last session by Col. Lindsay, but as the Govern ment had not shown any interest in the matter, as a con sequence, he had been counted out. Considering that the question was one of justice to a large class of officers he did not think that the course adopted by the Govern ment was one which reflected any credit on the Govern ment. Previously to the warrant of Oct., 1854, no officer except a Queen's aide-de-camp could be promoted over the head of another; and what these officers complained of was, that the warrant had been made retrospective. The consequence was, that those men, many of whom had been promoted for gallantry in the field, found themselves passed over by boys, both in service and in age. 140 officers had been passed over. The thing could have been easily remedied at the time by bring. ing forward those officers in a brevet, making a larger number of full colonels, and a smaller number of lieutenant-colonels. He had proposed that course as one of common justice, and with a view to prevent the galling feeling which those officers bad expe. rieoced in seeing their juniors passing ever their heads. His complaint againF t the Government was that they had not taken into consideration the recommendations of the royal commission which sat on the warrant, to -130 , adopt some measure to obviate the injustice which the adoption of that warrant would cause. The Govern menthad stated that they were taking the matter into _ _ consideration, but the way in which their consideration seemed likely to act, he would instance by mentioning the case of the present officer, Lieutenant Colonel Denny. Up to the 30th of June last 64 junior of ficers had passed over his head, while at present the number amounted to 86. Was it not heart-rending to gallant men like that to see themselves passed over by officers who, compared to themselves, were mere boys, both in service and in the number of years they had been field officers, Many of the officers thus passed ever had received their promotion for gallantry in the field and But tering from wounds, and having lull reliance on the war rant then in force, by which no officer but a Queen's aid e de-camp could pass over their heads, they had retired from their regiaients. Owing to the unfair course of the new warrant being made retrospective, their expectations bad been deceived. In the natural course of things, those officers cool' only receive their promotion by sur viving the whole of 164 generals on the Army List, but how many of them were likely to survive that number of generals ! An officer now entering the army knew what he had to expect, but he did think it would be only justice to those who had been so injuriously affected by the warrant of 1854, to give them their promotion by brevet. He trusted, therefore, that their matter would be laid before the proper authorities with a view of so grievous an injustice being obviated. He 813001 be glad to know how it was that while the officers and men of the French army were esearing the Turkish medal in 1355, net a single English soldier had yet re ceived it, although at this moment all the regiments wish were entitled to it were on their way to India ? He did not know whether it was the fault of the Foreign office or of the War-office ; but he did know that it was perfectly disgraceful that the officers and men of our army should be treated in that manner. There was another point to which he would advert before sitting down, that was the injustice of promoting officers com manding regiments to be general officers over the heads of men holding staff appointments, of so much resposi bility as those, for instance, of Deputy Adjutant-General and Deputy Quartermaster-General in Ireland. It was not fair that men holding such responsible offices as those should labour for years without any recognition of their services. He trusted, therefore, that the matter would receive proper attention from her Majesty's Go vernment. Lord HOTHAIVI fully concurred in the remarks which bad just fallen from the hon. and gallant officer. Whe ther the Government were dealing with the claims of their civil officers or their military officers, there was one rule to which undeviating and strict attention ought to be paid—that of good faith. Na v good faith had not been kept with the class of officers alluded to. He therefore trusted that the Government would take some steps to remove the grievance of which they complained. Mr. STAFFORD adverted to the very unsatisfactory answers which bad been given by the Under-Secretary for War with respect to the clothing provided for the re giments lately sent to India—viz , the 97th, 20th, and part of the 42d Highlanders. It now appeared that those men bad landed in India in the same uniform in which they had quitted Aldershot and Sborncliffe, with out even a single piece of white cloth to cover the hideous black chaco. From an answer given by the right honourable gentleman, he had concluded that the necessary provision against the burning sun of India would accompany the men in their voyage out. Now it was said that orders had been sent out, overland, to have suitable clothing provided for the troops by the time they arrived. He hoped it was so, and that those who had instructed the hon. gentleman to make that answer bad not misinformed him. But the statements made by the authorities had been denied by the journals. The same thing had happened in the Cri mean war, and though the Government had first denied the truth of the statements made by the press, they had proved true when too late. He trusted this divergence in the statement of the Government from what appeared to be fact, was not the precursor of another state of things which he could not, with all respect to the hon. gentleman, designate by any other name than disastrous. He hoped the honourable gentleman would inform them of the true state of things with regard to those troops, and that there would be no attempt to de ceive the house or the country on the matter, or the disgrace and dishonour which would fall on the Govern. ment would be infinitely greater—taking into account the experience they ought to have obtained from the Crimean disaster—than that which had befallen them for their shortcomings in the Russian war. Sir DE LACY EVANS postponed the motion he had on the paper on going into committee of supply, to draw the attention Qf the house to the military arrangements being made for"meeting the contingency that has occurred in the Bengal Native Army, in consequence of the ab sence of the noble lord at the head of the Government, and stated his intention to bring the subject under the attention of, the house when the militia estimates were brought forward. The SPEAKER then left the chair, and the house went into committee of supply. On the first vote being proposed, one of 2,0001. for establishing a national portrait gallery. Mr. SPOONER moved the diminution of the vote by the sum of 2.0001., because they had no right to tax the public for such an object. If they allowed the vote to pass, he foresaw that it would be the commencement !of many more votes of the same kind. No benefit would accrue from it to the great mass of the people. We had spent already for science last year 272,0001, under the head of art 53,0001, and on the grounds of the new museum at Kensington, 270,0001. making in all more than half a mtllion of money, from which the great bulk of the people would never receive any benefit whatever. Those grants had commenced by small sums, and had gone on increasing to the amounts they now were, and if the committee agreed to the present vote it would go on increasing in the same way. That being his opinion be should certainly take the sense of the committee on the vote. Mr. INGRAM meant to support the vote, because h Was sure that the labouring people of this country fell as much interest in the portraits of their eminent men as the higher classes. Mr. GILPIN meant to oppose the vote, because he held that such a gallery ought to be part of the Na tional Gallery. He believed an extra staff of officials to be needless, as those belonging to the National Gallery were quite sufficient to perform the duties of the proposed portrait gallery. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the vote had originated in the House of Lords, where last session an address to the Crown had been agreed to on the subject of the establishment of a national portrait gallery of an historical kind, similar in nature to the sta tues which t'ley had in one of the corridors of that house. In consequence of that address the Government had pro posed to the house last year a vote of :3,000/. for the foundation of that gallery. The house, after a debase, and upon a avigi 2, had agreed to that vote, accordingly trustees had been appointed, and the foundation of the gallery had been made. Some donations had already been made to the gallery. Among others, the lamented Lord Ellesmere had presented to it a portrait of Shakes. peare, of which he was the p - messor. Underthese circum stances, he trusted the house would not reverse the vote they had come to last year, and refuse the moderate sum now asked f r. It was not intends-I to apply any portion of the money to the payment of officers beyond the very small stipend of, he thought, 1001. a-year, which was to be paid to the secretary of the trustees. At present the space in the National Gallery was too limited to allow of the portrait gallery being placed there, but whenever the house agreed to any plan for the enlargement of the pre sent National Gallery, it would be then compe tent for the Government to assign one or two rooms in connection with the National Gallery for the exhibition of the portraits connected with the new historical por trait gallery. They, of course, would be in the cars of the officers of that gallery, so that all the money voted would be spent in the acquisition of pictures. Mr. WILLIAMS wished to know what had been done with the 2,0001. voted last year before the house voted any more money. Mr. COX, believing this to be the thin edge of the wedge, should oppose its introduction. He did not see any use in a portrait gallery at all. If they wished to make tho National Gallery of use, why not turn out the Royal Academy, and make that space available ; other wise they would have a National Gallery in three or bur parts of London. He believed that no good woul i come of throwing away the money of the people in such a way. Sir J. TREVELYAN said that it the working classes were allowed access to the gallery at times when they could visit it he would support the vote. Mr. BRISCOE complained that ho had not been per mitted to see the pictures a'ready purchased. If only original portraits were to be purchased, he did not see how they were to form such a gallery, and did not think any adequate object would be gained to justify the expendi ture of 2,0001. a-year. He should oppose the vote. Sir W. JOLLIFFE wished to know if they were to go on spending money from which the public could derive no advantage, for they had no place to exhibit the pic tures He had hoped Burlington-house might have been appropriated to exhibit some of the national treasures. As no one could seewhat they had bought with the 20001. voted last year, he should oppose the vote altogether. Mr. LA BOIJCHERE said the question the committee bad to decide was, whether it was worth while to have a national portrait gallery. He was of opinion that it would be most valuable in its effects on the people at large, who would regard such a collection with more in terest than they would ever accord to any mere collec tion of works of art. If the house sanctioned the prin ciple, it would be time when they got a sufficient collec tion of portraits to think of a gallery in which to put them. .When a gallery was once formed, and attained a certain degree of excellence, portraits of great value would no doubt be contributed by persons who would be proud of seeing their ancestors placed in a national col lection of that kind. It was impossible to discuss the proposition whioh some hon gentlemen entertained— that there was no interest in a collection of that kind. It was a matter of individual opinion, and for himself he could not conceive anything more interesting, instruc tive, and valuable than a gallery of historical portraits. He should be very sorry if the house should, by refusing that vote, intimate its opinion that the nation had no interest in the question. Mr. DRUMMOND said it was commonly supposed that collecting a national portrait gallery was a very simple matter, bat he had known a case, when searching for national portraits, where a large number of family portraits had been stowed away by a nobleman in a room over his stable, without their names, and with their faces to the ground. That 2,0001. would be the most foolish vote that could be passed, for the Government always did those things worse than anybody else. Mr. B. HOPE thought the case cited by the member iser West Surrey was the best possible argument for pro• viding for the pictures being placed with their backs to the wall as soon as possible. Mr. CONINGHAM said he was opposed to the vote on two grounds—first, because there was awl.; ma chinery already in existence at the National Gallery ; and, secondly, because he was totally opposed to the appointment of irresponsible trustees, one of whom at least had proved himself utterly unworthy of public con fidence. The hon. gentleman then alluded to Sir C. Eastlake's purchase of the spurious Holbein, and hoped the house would never hear it put forward again that Sir Charles Eastlake was a very amiable man, in reply to a charge of such gross waste of the public money. Mr. DIRAELI defended the vote and complained of the hon. member for Brighton in allowing his dislike for Sir C. Eastlake to prejudice his mind upon a national gneation. The right hon. gentleman then reviewed the various purchases that had been made for the nation by existing trustees, and gave his opinion that for taste, skill, and national value ' the fund placed at their dis posal could not possibly be better expended. Mr. FRENCH deprecated the time of the house being occupied for hours together abont the respectability of Sir C. Eastlake, whenithe country was in astate of agita tion about the war in China and India, and about other Important matters. Mr. CONING I:1AM said he meant to impute nothing against the personal respectability of the present trustees. The committee then divided. The numbers were— For the vote B5 Against 3l Majority —54 Upon the vote for 2,0001. for inquiring into the causes of cholera in the West Indies, Mr. W. WILLIAMS said there bad been five in quiriee in six years upon this subject, and he thought it was quite time that inquiry should cease. The vote was agreed to, and likewise a vote for 5001. for certain works at the mouth of the Humber, after some remarks in opposition to Mr. A. Smith and Mr. Adams, and Lord Hothara, which were replied to by Sir C. Wood. On the vote of 10,0001. to the London Diocesan Build ing Society for building additional churches and parson age houses for the metropolis, Mr. WILLIAMS opposed it. It was pretended that this was a contribution on the part of the Crown, to be paid out of the Crown property commonly called the Woods and Forests ; but that property did not belong to the Crown, having been surrendered in consideration of a payment out of the civil list. He trusted that the committee would resist the vote, especially as presently we should have plenty to do with our money. The civil service estimates were 741,0001. more than they were last year. Mr. WILSON said that in the precincts of London the Government had a net rental of 150,0001. per annum, and property in reversion, which, when the leases fell in, would give the Government a net rental in the metro polis of half a million sterling. Besides this they had a large number of public buildings occupied by Government for Government purposes, briogiog together a very large population. The Marquis of Westminster, the Duke of Bedford, and other owners of property had put down their names for large sums of money, and the Govern ment thought it was their duty to do the same as other large owners of property—namely, to provide churches for the property it held. (Hear.) Sir J. PAKINGTON supported the vote. The popu• lation of the metropolis was increasing at the rate of 60,000 a-year ; but the means of divine worship were not by any means keeping pace with that increase. Mr. GILPIN said the large owners held the property on their own responsibility, and it was their duty to support religious and benevolent institutions. The Go vernment held the property on Labatt of the people, com posed of many religious sects, and to grant money for any particular sect was an interference with the funda mental principles of religious liberty. (Hear.) Mr. WHITESIDE supported the vote, although he knew such a privilege would not be extended t) the Church of Ireland if it was asked for. This was a vir tuous vote, and, coming from the Treasury, he was surprised at it. (Laughter.) Mr. M. MILNES thought that upon the merest utiiitarian grounds it was desirable to vote the proposed grant. Mr. AYRTON opposed the grant on the ground tbat it was unnecessary. He believed that in London there was an abundance of Church property t o provide for all the spiritual wants of the metropolis, but it was grievously misapplied. SirM r . F. ACKE BAlTlNGcheerfully supported favourthe vote.of the grant. (Hear.) He thought it was the duty of the C rown t o meet the voluntary efforts which bad been made on the part of wantthe great ofc proprietors hureh accommodation. London H Mr. BRISCOE thought that som e p ortion of th e reve nues of the see of London ought t o be a pp ro p riated to the purpose for which this grant wa s asked, and t h en there would be no occasion for an app eal to the p ublic . to ea.) meet the existing Mr. LABOUCHERE said that the late Bishop Blom field subscribed 5,0001. towards the proposed new churches. Mr. BEALE said he should vote against the grant. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER con tended that the Government, as a large holder of pro perty, was bound to make corresponding arrangements for the spiritual accommodation for those who resided upon it. Mr. DRUMMOND did not think this was the hest b way of providi ng c h urc h accommodation for the p eo ple , at the sa me time, he should not v ote a g ains t the grant. Mr. COX reminded the committee that the Govern ment had promised to bring iu a bill for the abolition of Church rates this session, but they bad arrived nearly at the close of the session and no su ch bill had made its appearance. Mr. lIADFIELD opposed the grant, contending that in exact proportion to the liberality of that house, private efforts abroad were contracted. The committee divided, and the numbers were— Forthe vote ................................. 97 56 Againstit ................................... _ 4l Majority ................................. The vote was then agreed to. On the vOte of 10,0001. to enable the Lord High Com. missioner of the lonian Islands to improve the fortifica tions of Col fu, Mr. WISE wished to know what was our exact posi ti.m in the lonian I buds—whether these works were to protect the Corfuites or to protect us from the Cur fuites ? Mr. LABOUCHERE said it was important that England should occupy that important military position which was afforded by the possession of the lonian Islands. It would be unreasonable to throw ail the expense of the fortifications on the inhabitants of the lonian Islands. Mr. WILLIAMS wished to know if the forts were intended to defend us against the lonians, or the lonians against other people I He believed the former, for the lonians were our de .dly foes. The possession of these islands was of no use, and were a great expense. Mr. LABOUCHERII said that the forts were required both for t aoitary and military purposes. High authori ties had conideroil their possession of great value to us. Mr. BENTINCK denied that the lonians were hostile to us. They were a well-conditioned set of men, and well-di-posed to us. The mischief had been dore by discontented Englishmen, who went about and wanted to introduce the English c )nstitution into a garrison town, Mr. A. STAFFORD said that the vote was rather too small than too large. He bore testimony to the ex cellent management of Sir H. Ward in preserving tran viltty in those islands during thedangerous crisis of the late war. Mr. LLBOUCHERE agreed with the hon. metnb(r as to the energy of Sir H. Ward duringlthe last struggle. He had just received from Sir J. Young, the present chief commissioner, a gratifying statement. It was the first time that the lonian session had terminated without being brought to an abrupt termination. Great credit was due to Sir J. Young for his prudent management during his government. Mr. HENLEY said that be supposed the lonians were well whipped by Sir H. War,i, and had become better boys for the future. The vote was then agreed te. The next vote 2,000/. for the testimonial to the Duke of Wellington in Phoenix-park, Dublin.—Agreed to. On the vote of 10,5001 for the purchase of a chapel for the British residents and visitors in Paris. Mr. WISE moved that the vote be rejected. A chapel had been built at Paris by the late Bishop Ltn combo at an expense of 6,0001. This chapel was subse quently offered to the Gov3rnment, and afterwards sold to aM. Chamier for an annuity of 1,0001. a year to Blehop Luscombe, who died in six months. M. Chami-r offered the chapel to the Government, but in spite of the representation of Lord Aberdeen and Lord Cowley, Sir R. Peel refused to purchase it. A further communica tion took place between Lord Normantiy, M. Chaini-r, and the Government in 1849 and 1850, but Lord Nor manby and the Government both refused to act on ac count of the exorbitant sum of 10,0001. a ked by M. Chamier. This showed what was the feeling of the Government as regarded expense. The Govern ment, by the present vote, were violating the Act of Parliament regulating the purchase of chapels fer British residents abroad, which rc• quired that those rt sidents should subscribe a, part of the expense. Since the passing of the act we had paid 218,0001. for chapels abroad. He admitted that the present system of performing service at the embassy was a bad one. The service was performed sometimes in the dining room, sometimes in the drawing room, and the room which overnight was devoted to ordinary purposes was that in which the chaplain officiated the next morn ing. But the House of Commons was not boiled to provide church accommodation for those who choose to go abroad. At the chapel which it was proposed t purchase, there was the habit of charging one franc for admission, which was no more than was paid by Eng lishmen for their pew rents at home. It was high time that they should look after this class of votes. A year and a half ago the owner of the chapel was willing to part with it for 9,0001., but the Government refused, and said that they were going to build a chapel. The chapel had been sold to an American, but the pres sure exerted by our ambassador was such that the Ame rican gentleman was obliged to give up his purchase. He objected altogether to the system of making con tracts out of the civil service contingencies. It was cal culated to destroy all confidence in the Treasury, which ought to be the check on the public expenditure. He thought that an independent commission should be ap pointed to examiue the report on the item of public ex penditure before they ware submitted to the house. Mr. WILSON said that there was a chapel belonging to the ambassador at Paris, and everywhere else where we had an ambassador. The hon. gentleman had shown the inconvenience of the practice of holding divine worship in the room of the embassy at Paris, sometimes in one room and sometimes in another. A proposition had been made to the Government to build a chapel in the old stable yard in 1849. This was not done, and since that tim e th e va l ue o f p ro p er ty b a d so largely increased in Paris that we could not now pur chase a site for the sum now asked for a chapel. The question had been before the Government for many years. The minister thought the price of the chapel too high in 1849, and since then we had had no oppor tunity of purchasing the chapel. It was the most econo mical arrangement to purchase the chapel rather than spend 5001. a year in imperfect arrangements. In January last Lord Cowley wrote to L ird Clarendon to say that the chapel was for sale. It was however then sold to an American gentleman, but the English resi dents were anxious to obtain the chapel, and the Ameri cans, out of respect to the feeling, gave up the chapel, and the Government then felt no hesitation in purchas ing it. The sum was 9,0001., the remaining 1,5001. was for contingent expenses and repairs. It was not intend ed that the rich English public should get their services for nothing; they were to pay for their seats, and the expenses of the chapel would be paid, as the chaplain of the embassy would contribute. The act proposed by the hon. gentleman did not refer to the embassy chapel, which was voted entirely out of the public funds, Mr. T. IiA.NKEY asked if there was any other single instance where pew rents were charged in English cha pels abroad ! Mr. WILSON did not think that the English resi dents could object to paying a sum for the accommoda tion they would receive. Mr. IiORSIIIAN said that they bad willingly voted money for the church accommodation of poor persons abroad ; but here was a sum voted for the rich persons wilt) went to Paris for their pleasure. There was an admitted church destitution at home, and we were asked to give a sum for the wealthiest set of Englishman in existence. The details were as faulty as the principle, for this sum was indignantly refused in 1849 as exorbitant. He trusted that the house would reject the vo`e. Lord H. VANE said that it was never intended that the public money should be given fir chapels abroad ; and for that reason an act was passed requiring that one half of the money should be raised by the E❑glish abroad. He did not see why the act should be departed from. The wealthy population who attended the chapel were able to provide for their own worship ; and if this sum had been refused by the Government, they would have raised the money. He did not think they were warranted in consenting to this vote, which ho charac terised as of an extravagant character. Lord PALIVIERST6N said that he could not agree in the principle that when the poor were not provided for, they should provide for no one else. This would prove tkat all the revenues of the country shoull be applied to the poor rates. This was not a valid argument. It was asserted that the British residents at Paris were an aristocratic and exclu•ive body. This was not the fact. There were ten thousand British residents in Pari , , many of them were not established there —those who were established there were mostly of the lower classes, who go there to live by their own industry, but who were not in a situation to provide the funds. It had long been a reproach to the British nation that it had no place of worship at Paris except a room at the embassy. It was not true that the chaelsin to the embassy was the domestic chaplain of the ambas sador. Parliament did not vote money for the chaplain for any such purpose. The officer was established to ad. minister to all British subjects. It was argued as if this was an exceptional car=e. Now, the very arguments of those who opposed the grant refuted themselves, for they stated that sums of money were voted for chapels in consular establishments. It was true that the whole was not voted—only the half, but the principle was the same, and whether it was the half or the whole was only a question of amount. At sea-port towns the Govern ment gave a sum eqnal to that provided by the residents ; but the residents at sea-port towns were persons fixed there, whereas the majority of persons at Paris were there for six weeks or two months, and they could not expect that persons of so temporary a residence were likely to contribute largely towards the chapel, like those who were fixed there for many years. His hon. friend had stated that a number of the seats would be paid for, so that the chapel would provide all its expenses. He was sure that all knew the general feeling—amounting to shame—that there was no proper place where the chaplain to the embassy would perform divine service in Paris. The vote supplied a deficiency which bad been long felt. It had been talked of for many years. The residents bad hitherto never .subscribed for the chapel, and they never would subscribe. He hoped the house would consider that they were not establishing a new principle, but that they were supplying a want which had been long felt, which the honour of the country was engaged in supplying, and which was a disgrace to the country. Lord J. MANNERS said that he did not know where the argument of the noble lord would lead them. At present the English residents were bound to contri bute one-half of the cost of every chapel erected, and it the principle of the Deb's lord was carried out, they would hencef irth expect that they were to pay nothing, and demand the whole from the Government. He him self felt a great difficulty as to how he should vote, and rather wished to state the difficulties in order that they might be answered, than to argue the question. He did not see why, after the residents at Paris had so 1 tog kept up a place of worship, they were now to be called upon to pay 10,5001. for one. Mr. WILSON said the noble lord had asked if the chapel did not at one time belong to the British embasy. The answer to that was, that it never did belong to the embassy a t all; it was private proper 11. It was not in tended to make a charge at the doors tor admission, and the main body of the chapel would be devoted to the accommodation of the poor. Mr. HORSMAN said he had not stated that a'l the English residents in Paris were wealthy. What he bad said was, that the usual visitors to the embassy were of the wealthy classes. Lord PALMERSTON said divine service had hither. to been held in the dining-room of the embassy, and that was the reason why the pour could not attend, and that was the reason why they proposed to purchase this chapel for the poor. Sir W. JOLIFFE thought this was a most extraordi. nary proposition to create a national chapel for the rich. Mr. HARKEY would ask whether the vote would in crease or diminish the chapel accommodation ? If it would really increase the accommodation for the poor, he would not object to the vote, but he believed the coc trary. would give greater ace )rnmoclation to the rich. Lord PALMERSTON said at present no one could enter the chapel without payment, and it was proposed to establteh a large number of free seats. Mr. PEASE could not see why the English wealthy residents in Paris should not support their own placJ of religious worship. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY wished to know if a con tract had been entered into for purchasing the chapel ? Colonel HERBERT opposed the vote, believing that it wouli. not secure additi ot a l accommo dation. Mr. SPOONER pressed the question with regard to the contract. Mr. WILSON said that he had already stated that thechapel had bean purchased and 2,000/. had Lien paid on account of it by Lord Cowley. Mr. M`CANN trusted that those who required ac commodation would be made to pay for it. The committee then divid e d— 'Ai For the vote Agains it.. 47 135 —BB The vote was, consequently, lost, and the numbers were received with loud cheers. A vote of 1,5001. for toe adjustment of certain baro- nies in Ireland wag then passed. A vote of 10,0001. was proposed for an industrial mu seum in Edinburgh. After a short discussion the vote was withdrawn. A vote of 8,970 for wire doors, &c., for the protection of public records was agreed to. A vote of 24,000/, for Coelsea New Bridge was pro p3sed. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said that estimates for this class of expenditure were simply trap and deluions. They began with an estimate of 60,0001., then it was 70,0001., then 75,0001, then 84,000/., and then 94,0001. Could anything be more ridiculous than beginning with an estimate of 60,00/., and ending with 94,0001. ? He inquired what amount had already been expended, and hose much more would be required, and to what extent the money would be reimburse.] by the tolls ? Sir B. HALL said he bad every reason to believe that 24,0001. would complete the expenditure. Mr. BENTINCK objected to the money of the coun try being expended in local improvements. He thought they ought not to give a vote unless it was distinctly understocd that the vote was sufficient. There had been a good deal of talk lately about doing away with those tolls altogether, and they ought to have a distinct under standing that such an idea was not to be carried out. After a few words from Lord 3. MANNERS, 'Sir D. NORREYS said that the official estimates were merely a means of concealing the cost of pub is works. Mr. BRADY said that the Dub'ic generally bad no idea bow much this question affected private peoperty. At the same time, a free passage over this bridge would be a great national advantage ; and he objected to this .bill because it gave no guarantee that the bridge would ultimately be wholly free to the public. He would op pose the vote. Lord C. HAMILTON thOught that there was a breach of faith in this matter, as it was understood when the grant was given that it should be repaid from the pro ceeds of this bridge. Government were not carrying out the spirit of the report, for they did not show that the bridge would be made a public bridge. Sir B. HALL explained, and referred to the report of the committee, who were of opinion that the tolls ought not to be taken from foot passengers. It would require 24,0001. to complete the bridge, and the original un derstanding ought to be fulfilled. After a few words from Sir H. WILLOIICaIBT, Sir B. HALL explained. Mr. INGRAM said that if the tolls were kept on, the property would be worth nothing ; but if the tolls were abolished the property would pay for the bridge. If the park was for the people there ought to be no toll on the bridge. Mr. TITE supported the vote, and went at some length into the evidence before the committee. The bridge must be a toll paying bridge ; that might be re gretted, but certainly they must finish the bridge, or it would be a disgrace to the house if it were not completed when so nearly finished. After a few words from Mr. CLIFFORD, Mr. P. O'BRIEN, on the ground that public faith ought to be kept without reference to the interest of Chelsea or Battersea, defended the report of the com mittee. Some improvements ought to be carried out by local means. Sir W. JOLLIFFE had not maintained that tolls ought to be maintained on the London bridges, but while these depended on tolls, free bridges should not be put in competition with them. Mr. PLATT thought the whole country ought not to be called upon to pay for local benefit. Mr. WILLIAMS moved that the chairman report progress. The question was then put, and the vote agreed to. PUBLIC BUSINESS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER asked the committee as a matter of convenience to agree to the next two votes. He had stated at the commence ment of the session that he would ask only 8,0001. to complete the sum necessary for the purchase of land for the site of the public offices. Since that time it had been found necessary to purchase additional land. But he would now only ask the committee to vote the sum of 8,0001. instead of the 50,000/. Mr. DISRAELI said it would be convenient to the committee to know what would be the busihess to be proceeded with at 13;x o'clock to-morrow (this day). The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said they would go on with the supply, and, if possible, with the ways and means. Mr. DISRAELI gave notice that he would put a question to the noble lord respecting the transactions that had recently taken place at Constantinople. Mr. PACKE said they had now been sitting nine hours, and he hoped.the committee would agree to report progress. Mr. DRUMMOND said that it bad been distinctly understood that at six o'clock to-morrow (this day) the Divorce Bill would be proceeded with. Mr. GLADSTONE wished to know whether the Chancellor of the Exchequer spoke in ignorance of the arrangement made with reference to the Divorce Bill Lord J. MANNERS desired to know what was the intention of Government with respect to that bill ? Mr. BENTINCK asked whether it was customary after an arrangement as to the course of the business to depart from it. ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was very unusual at the end of the session to. make such changes. Mr. COX wished to know whether the Government meant to proceed with the Divorce Bill at al! ? The CHAIRMAN said this was quite irregular; the question was that he report progress. Mr. DRUMMOND—Then I object to the course of reporting until the pledge given by Government is ful- filled. The question that the Chairman report progress was then put and carried, and the hou,e resumed. EDUCATION. Sir J. PAKINGTON a k d the noble lord nt 11 - 2 a bead of the Government when ho would give him a day for bringing forward the question of education Lord PALMERSTON said it must depend on the business before the house. If possible he would give the right hon. baronet Friday next. THE DIVORCE BILL. Sir G. GREY, in answer to a question, said that the Government intended to proceed with the Divorce Bill at 12 o'clock on Thursday, and if necessary at 6 o'clock on the came day. (Flear.) Lord J. MANNERS hopad they would not give the whole day to the question. The subject then dropped. ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION BILL. On the motion for the third reading of this bi I, Mr. L. KING moved that it be read a third time that day three months. Mr. CAIRD referred to the fluctuating value of landed property, and opposed the bill, which would further do. teriorate such property. Under this bill a bishop would have an interest in diminishing the value of the property. The Ecclesiastical Commission had worked well, and they ought not to revert to the old system, and reverse a pc licy which had so far succeeded. It would involve a double system of land agency. He thought it would be better to let the matter rest as it stood. Ho should sup port the amendment. Sir G. GREY said the bon. member had misunder stood the purpose of the bill, which was nit to reverse the recent policy, but to carry it out more completely. Mr. BRISCOE said this measure was too important to pass at this time of the session. If one could live without sleep, one could make oneself acquainted with all these Milli. (Hear, hear.) Sir J. PAKINGTON said the bill had been so long before Parliament that if the hon. member was not ac quainted with it, that was his own fault. (Uear.) After a few words from Mr. A YILTON, Mr. HADFIELD moved the adjournment of the do bate, -- T — he bill was then read a third time, and passed. DULWICH COLLEGE BILL. Oa the order for the third reading of this bill, Mr. KNIGHT moved that the order be discharged, Mr. COX seconded the amendment. Mr. M. T. BAINES, chairman of the select com mittee, defended the course he had taken with refereuc, to the bill. After a discussion, in which Mr. Matins, Mr. Lyger, Mr. Headlam, Mr. Henley, Mr. Greer, Mr. John Locke, and Mr. W. Williams took part, The house divided, when the numbers were— For Mr. Knight's motion B6 Against it Majority —27 On the motion that the bill bo rr)w read a third time, Mr. KNIGHT opposed it. He said that of all the plunders of the ektrities of the poor, this was the grossest, and it was disgraceful to pension three officers tor life out of f un d s b e l ong i n g to the poor. Mr. COX moved the adjournment of the debate. Mr. D. NICOLL seconded the motion. The house then divided. The nut:oot r.s wore— For the adjournment Against it Majority 3(3 Mr. LYGe)N moved the a journment of the house. Sir G. GREY said that nothing could now be g a i, u , i by such a proceeding. Lord PALMER3TON opposed the motion, an d s&d that the Government were determined to sit on till the third reading was carried. Alter some further discussion, the motion was with drawn, and the bill was read a third time and passed. The Lords' amendments to the Glebe Lands (Irellndl Bill, Banking Bill, Crown, lite., Suits (Stotts,-,d) Bill, Land Tai Commissioners' Names 1111, were considered anti agreed to. PUBLIC OFFICES EXTENSION BILL. The order for the Lird reading of this bill was read and discharg e d. • JOINT STOCK COMPANIES Acr (1856) AMENDMENT BILL. This bill was read a second time. The other orders were disposed of, and the house ad journed at a•quarter past two o'clock. TTIII TROOPS FOR INDIA. The remarks made.inthe House of Common last night upon our observations on the alleged light clothing of the troops in India entirely bear out our statement of yesterday. It will be recollected tliat on Thursday night Sir John Ramsdeu said that —" In addition to these the troops now going out to China and India have been provided with White cotton helmet and forage cap covers." "In fact, the Government have taken every precaution to maintain the health And comfort o f th e t roo ps.' The accuracy of these remarks we felt compelled to dispute, and to deny that the " white c otton helmet" and "forage cap covers" had been issued, more particularly to the regiments which had been most recently embarked. The subject, as will be seen from our Parliamentary report, again night attracted the attention of the House Of Commons, and this time Sir John's statement was of the most qualified description, since in strict official parlance, "he found on inquiry that the state of the case was this :—The troops s ea t out to China had received cap covers, or the material! for making them. The cavalry, artillery, an d engineers sent to India t oo k w ith th em cap and helmet covers made up, but the infantry now pre" ceeding to India did not take with them cap covers' The material, however, would be provided for 0 01 in India, and he was informed there would be no difficuty in getting any amount of material in th e shortest possible time." Now as the infantli form about 90 per cen t. o f tho whole firce which Sir John stated had cap covers, and which W e stated had not, we leave it to our readers to decide which is in the right. We are, however, qui te satisfied at having so directed public attention to the matter that the question is not likely to b e overlooked in the relaxation of the approaching recess. Times. Country Markets. CHELMSFORD—Ara 7. Harvest operations again caused a thin attendance 0 market, and a general dulness prevailed. New w heat. came to hand in fine condition, and realised goo d prices' Old wheats were about the same as last week; and there was no variation also in other articles. Wheat, White, old, per s. s. 1 8 ' 1;0 qr. 52 68 i Oats, per qr. 2l - new.... 62 66 Peas, Partridge 41 44 red, old 50 60 White 39 new.... 50 58 Boiling 39 46 Barley 35 46 Dun 40 41 A _ I Chevalier 40 54 I Beans, Tick 40 Grinding 35 46 Malt 73 77 Harrow ticks 41 46 An Mazagan 36 79 Chevalier 75 791 ' 'Ditto, new... 36 - Official Statement of the Quantities of Corn, &c in the port of London, from the following p Aug. 3 to Aug. 8, both inclusive. reo Jived ' ;1 ts, frOn A 385 ( - 250 -455 233, Colchester Harwich Leigh hialdon , / 300 COLCHESTER— AUG. 8. A moderate supply of wheat, but principally new ; tY r weather being showery and unsettled, a fair demand ol d new wheat was e x p er i ence d a t l as t wee k' s prices. u'o wheat must ba not e d i s p er quar t er d earer. W e h a vnL new barley at m ar k e t a t presen t , some samp l es shown "1 fine in quality , and weight. B eans an d p eas are witlinu change in value. Prices to-daywere as follow :—Wheat, white, 62s to7 o, red, 583 to 625; barley, 38s to 45s ; oats, 28s to We ; bon!: Mazagan, 40s to 44s ; middle and small, 44s to 48s; P ew ' white, 38s to 42s ; grey, 42s to 465. KIRKCALDY—Aua. 8. We had a large supply of wheat to-day, which rae t :: dull sale, at about l as t d ay ' s ra t es. A f ew parce l s of Oa-- and one or two of barley ; sales slow at last week's rates. Wheat. Barley. Oats. I 'B ean lja First 625 Od 36s 61 i 31s Od I Os as Second 47s Od 32s Od 28 s Od OS , Third 32s Od —s Oct f 27s od Os v- ICT.—Auct. 10. the close of the market Walleend, &O. A cl• ieaham 16 3 1 Russell's Hetton 16 9 0 Hough Hall 16 Hartlepool Hotton l6 6 Hunwick l5 Hetton Lyons Main ; 15 ' Brown's Moor Haigh 0 Main 15 0 Plummer Seaeroft 15 " 15 0 Gordon . ;, 53; sold, 50. COIL MARK, Prices of Coals per ton at Hastings Hartley 17 3 Earsden's Hartley l5 6 Haswell Gas 13 9 Walker Primrose ... 13 9 Newcastle Hartley 15 6 Benton West Hartley 15 6 Wallsend, &c. Eden Main l6 3 Tees lB 0 Whitworth l6 0 Eden l6 3 Ships at market THE WORTHING MINING CoMPANT.—Yesterday the annual meeting of the proprietors was held at the office' of the company, St. Helen's-place, Cyrus Legg, in the chair. The report and accounts were una ul ' mously adopted, the retirin g directors and auditors r e• elected, and a vo t e o f th an k s to the chairman and dire' tore terminated the proceedings. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIoway's Ointment and Pilh cured a wound in the leg of eleven years' standing. Pr"' Welch, chemist, o f B r i g h ton, states in a letter to V"' fessor Holloway, dated Sept. 6, 1855, that M r . Catbe' rine Hudson, of Cavendish-place, in that town, bad been suffering for eleven years from an ulcerous wound in tb ° leg, for which she hsd b een un d er me di ca l treatmen t B' , the London and Brighton Dispensaries, but derived no benefit therefrom ; th e app li ca ti on, h owever, of WI. loway's Ointment, and the use of Holloway's Pills, ha il effected a perfect cure.—Sold by all medicine vendo rs throughout the, world, at P ro f essor Holloway's E't3' blishment, 244; Strand, London, and 80, Maide n ' 1 , n., New Yo r k ; by A. Stamps, Constan-tinople ; 1/ " . Guilicy, Smyrna; and E. Muir, Malta. j A DYE trISENGNT.I SIGIIT AND HEARING -- SPECTACLES POWERFUL TENESCOPES OPERA, RACE, AND P ERSP ECTIVP GLASSES.—S. and B. Solemons, opticians, 39, jabemaq street, Piccadilly. Observe—opposite the York Hotel, By her Majesty's Royal Letters Patent for valuable and 8 . 5 ; traordinary improvements in the m os t p ower f u l an d b r illian t Telescopes, Camp, Race-course, Opera, and Perspecti c° Glasses, to know the distances. Th ese T e l escopes posses' such extraordinary power that some, three and a-half incll oB, with an extra eye-piece will show distinctly Jupiter's moons, Saturn's ring, and the double stars ; with the same teleseell can be seen a person's countenance th ree - an d- a -h a lf Wil e , distant and an object from 16 to 20 miles. For the Ytais", coat-pocket, and are of larger, and a ll s i zes , w ith i ncr easieb powers accsrdingly. The Royal Exhibition, 1851. —A call% able, newly-invented, very small, powerful, Waistcoat-poeV A Glass, the size of a walnut, by which a person ca n b e seen and known one and a-half mile distant They answer every Pe r pose on the Race-course and at the Opera-houses. Country scenery and ships are clearly seen at 12 to 14 miles. Th e / are invaluable for shooting, deer -stalking, yachting, t o sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers, and tourists. Oper 3 ,' Camp, Perspective, and R ace - course G lasses, with wonder fw powers.—lnvaluable preserving Spectacle Lenses of th e gravest transparent power. The great advantage derived from this invention is, that vision impaired becomes Pre served and strengthened, aed very aged persons are enable d to employ their sight at the most minute occupation—can Se c e with acne lenses of a muc h l ess magn if y i ng power —and they do not require the frequent changes to the daty gerous effects of further powerful assistance. Person' can be suited at the mos# remote part of the world by send; ins o'Je of the glasses out of their spectacles in a letter, an d stating the dist ;nee from the eye they can read small print with ir, and those who have not made use of spectacles by staling their age. Dertfness.—New Discovery.—The Orgate e , Vibrator, an exu-aordinarily powerful, small, newly-invented instrument for deafness, entirely different from all others , surpassing anything of the kind that has been, or probably can, be produced. Being of the same colour as the skin, is not perceptible. It enables deaf persons to hear distinctly at church aud at public assemblies ; the unpleasant sensation of singing noises in the ears is entirely removed, and it affordl all the assistance that possibly could bo desired.-3 4, APO' marle - street-Piccadilly.—Opposite the York hotel, W. BIRTHS. OF A SON. On the 10th inst., at No. 2, the Villas, Eaton-terrace, St. John's-wood, the wife of C. Chapman, Esq., F.S.A. On the 9th inst., at Durham, the wife of Edgar Moyne% E.3q., barrister-at-law. OF A OAGOUTEIt_ Op the Bth inst., at Aylesford, Kent, th e w i fe of J. Wickham Barnes, surgeon. On the 9th inst., a,t No. 3, Vlresthury.pines, Green•laaoe, Tuttenhani, Mrs. Wm. Wood. TIARRIED . • Oe the Bth inst., George Lilwall, Esq. Breconshire, to M.A.H.E., only child of Mathew Bentley, Esq., of th e Admiralty, Sornerset-house, and 3, Petersbur6h-terrace , Bayswater. On the Bth hut., Iticha,rd Scott, Esq., late of Sussex . gardens, to Charlotto Anne, eldest daughter of James ro . .vcll, Esq., o f Hamilton terrace, St. John I-wood. DIED, On the Oth inst., at Dorking, John Savage, Esq., in the Sith Tear of his sge. On the Bth inst., at Lower Norwood, Surrey, Robert 11 ';gart, 1:3q., eged 76. On the Bth inst,, Charlotte Anne, the beloved wife of the Roy. R. W. P. Davies, of Court-y-Gollen, Breconshire, aged 46. Ou the 101 h inst., Elizabeth, wife of Mr. John T. Bed' R.rd, of King-street, Snow-hill, aged 45. On the 9th inst., at Thornton-heath, Croydon, Edith the infant child of W. B. Lanfear, Esq. On tho 1.01;11 inst., aged 63, Mary Wildman, the beloved wife of Mr. Minister, of 10, Chalcot Villas, Adelaide read' and 8, Argyll-place, Regent-street. d LONDON : Printed and. Published. by MURDO YOUNG of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at rite Sun Office, No. 112, Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in the county' , of Middlesex, Tuesday, Augnot 11, 1857. T' irom El , gent Gal] gallery, I M E w. S. actor. w. S. B,excent A Mor =Privat at he Etl iross n(N. A_ 1 MIJSFX mission i this ma health tc also are and Abs Acid ; at 8, On Ne it° 13A.C1.0( .Aug. 13t duced in week 0( Great Cl Mimic B band, ea, T U ES Fishmon R A bas ihep Madame NIGHT the secoi mesa," Rode's c Admix past 7 ; may be and Co. perform in the G the Con( Crystal SATTIRD eikket don and pitched Guards) of the U the " Benedic Concert 35, Lu Gi TEARL rally u the Brie one o'd taken a The 1 and wir Jag on 1 G 1 Liverpo Trill] August, and 7tl Dub 20s. 6d. Birkenl 155.; VI ton, 225. 21s. 6d. 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