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- 1 1 41?,LIAMENT. . HOUSE - OF PEERS: DI Cllti'i7AY , M ' AY 12. „ . . Mr..Cotirington, Mr. Grah"ain, And-several other ,Metuberi. of the lionse of coif) inons - , lirought up four PriVate Bills ; which were read a first time. The Duke of Norrom reported from the COM- mittee, appointed Ibr thdt purpose, several Regula. tious proposed to be adopted respeaing the admission ofEersons into the High Omit of Parliament; which were agreed to. - Mr. Irving, Inspetior General of Imports and Ex ports, presented several Accounts relative to the slave Trade; which were ordered to lie on 'the Table. LORD NELSON. Lord GRENVILLE presented a, Message from His, • Majesty respecting :making a provision for Earl Nel-, son, and the future Pbssessors of ,the Title -=(Vide our Report of the 'House of Comm Ons.) Lord . GR.SN fILLE observed, that -there could be nb clift'erence of 'opirijki 'upon this stibjea. ; but in . conforinity with the usual . pra'atee of the House,, he would now merely ,move, that His .?Majesty's • 1110 . 5tgracious. Message' be taken into consideration* • to-morrow.-Ordered. • - jURISPROpENctpF,SOTLANti.• Lord GRENVILLE called ,the attention of the . Tfonse to'an inip9rtantsubjea,'.which stood for this . day.; he alluded to the notice which be had - giyen bf its attention to A-aive;cet'taiD ResOlutiensi r_esPeOing tbe 'Ever),-,-p.ossilile,dili gence.ta'tieen'ived, but ttie' bthin-ess was' not *yet ` ill - that state.9f foilwardness'whieh could enable him. submit;,A.he t - A reStliD the.. - }Tougo... 'ft 'was.2lso _bighiy`clesirablethat previous; to:bringing forward any propositions .cm.the Subjea, they :.should be in vestigated :by those : learned' persons: who were the beSt.qualified to give an' opirtion upon,them. He - slould therefore:propose to discharge the order for summoning their Lords hips, and ' , renew it _for : Fri _ the 6th.of June, 'with an understanding that the subje& should- certainly be brought -forward on that day. It was his intention thenlo submit cer tain Resolutions, which it might probably be epe . client for .the House tatake two or three days to consider of before .they came. to any deternaination upon then - i, 'and - early in the subsequent Session, he proposed.to found a Bill upon them, if they met with their Lordships' concurrence: , • • The order NA/4s' discharged, and renewed for Fri-, clay the,6th of June. . TRADE,BETWEEN m 5 WEST INDIES AND AMERICA. The ,Report of the. West. Indian and American Trade was -read, and the Amendments agreed to. . . Lord HAIPKESEr.IRY -said, he would not take up their Lordships' time .by• 'repeating his former arguments against the Bill ;. but whether he was right or not in' his, opinion, or whether the Peti, tioners against the Bill were correet or not in their • statements, it was clear that the subjea demanded very serious investigation. He was aware, that from the multiplicity of business now before Par= liatnent, and the advanced state of the Session, that: investigation could not now take place. He thought, however,, that' an opening should be left for such discussion before they acknowledged such a prin ciple as that maintained by the present Bill. With viow, tlicrclore; 116 should move to limit the • duration of the Bill to the Ist of July, .1807, in•or der that the subjea might, in the mean time, be thoroughly discussed ; and if it should be thought right to adopt such a principle; that it might only be adopted after mature deliberation. The Earl Of 'SUFFOLK defended the principle of the Bill. Lord SHEFFIELD said, that notwithStanding he obje6ted to the prineiple and every part of the Inca ' sure, he should agree to the Amendment, if it would give the. Petitioners an opportunity of being heafd, and of shelving how their concerns had been Misre presented by the supporters of the Bill. Noble Lords had ventured to say, that. Ship-buildihg.flou .rishes even, beyond what - if had done at 'any former period, and that the' increase of fOreign our• trade did not keep pace with the increase in our own Shipping. •His Lordship, then read an Account,' which stated' the'extraordipary increase of foreign, • and decrease of British Shipping, and..stated, that since December, 1802, to the present period, there • have been bunt in the River for the Mer chsnts •Service,' otily two 'Ships, -and there are, for the same Service, only. twO 'pow building,. He had always serious apprehensions respecaing the loOse opinions which. Were so often delivered on these sub- . jeas ; but his al9rth became - eXtrerrie since 'he . • heard a Noble Lord, distinguished for his great abi lities..aticl.. information; and of the , greatest in - that House; hold a language, on a late occasion, which appeared to him to prepare -the Country fOr - 4 relinquishment-of. the • most essential parts ;of our Nalrigation.:, System. He hoped he had mistaken him; but if he had, not,...J* most soleMnly declared • that Instead of ..alludirig to the sacrifice of the SysteM in question,' the Noble Lord had v..epared, in consequence of the change of times and things, to gratify Bonaparte with a, reduCtion and limitation of our Ships of War, it would not so seriously .have alarmed him ; because, in the last instance, the mis, chief might perhaps have been temporary and re trievable; in the Other, it would be permanent and: irretriOVable. Ile did not presume to blame any man. for Merely entertaining such opinions; but if;without perMitting examination or inquiry, and•contrary to the well established opinion of the public, he should ?et oil thoe opinions, he . then should think the Noble Lord most highly blameablL. His Lordship then stater], tli4t Mr. Pitt,- on first coming into . Act.. ministration, had adopted opinions similar to those pow brought forward; that he . had yielded to the able Reports made by Lord Liverpool ; and that, finding from experience the -mischievous efieas of relaxation of the Navigation Laws during the late War he•very wisely, especially during the two • last years, began to limit those relaxations: • But the measure now,before their Lordships seems in tended to reverse every thing that was doing - 4 the time of his death. Lard 4UCKLAND defended the statements he. had on a former occasion made to the House re spe6tlng the 'state of our Shipping, which, he con- , tended, were,correCL He objected to the proposed Amendment, .bemuse,. from the shortness'Of the time, it would materially 'interfere with that certain ty which Merchants 04014 44ve of being allqwo -- ----~= to sell ,tl4ri6odsibefore they .einbillted In 5116 g trade; - - The Pulte.-. : of ZIONTfI.OSE thought that the . , Amendment Otio'ht to be adopted in order to .give •0 • . • . tiriae for the consideration of-so i'mPortant a 'sUbjeEt. He strongly objeded to 'the making Such a Bill at Once, a pertnanentnieasure. - Lord SItEFFIELD explained. The Earl of BUCIUNGII./131SIPRE denl(A that this could be considered:a- permanent 'Measure, its duration being litnited to,the continuance' : of the War, and until . six Months after. the . conclusion of a definitiOe Treaty of Peace. The iiecesity Of some such measure during War had, he , thought, been agre,ed On - all-hands J. and it was.rendered the more necessary now, as, from the observations which had been made respeEting :the dondnei of the Governors of our West India.lslands, if a measure like-the pre sent was not passed, they would be doubtful as to what mode of conduEt they Ought.to pursue. - The Earl Of-CIERNARVON also . supported the Bill. The proposed Amendment Was negatived. Previous to the discussion -Lord MULGRAVC pre sented • a - Petition from the Ship-Owners of Scar borough against the Bill; whch•waSordered to lie on the Table.. The. Bill was ordered to be engressed. mst)LvENT DEBTORS. Lord HOLLAND said a few words in a low tone of voice, and concluded by . moving to postpone the Committee on the . lnsolvent Debt9rs' Bill to, Wed nesday, and that . the Lords be summoned 'for that day.—Ordered. • Pet ition s 'were presented against the Bill _by t he Earl of RomNEy, and in favour of it by Lord ifoL -4:;isp;--.A.djourned,oll to-rriorrow . (this day).* HOUSE OF COMMONS. 'MONDAY, MAY 12'. Mr. MARTIN took the oaths and his seat for the Borough of Kinsale. - -11/11:7CoRRy postponed. his Motion for Papers re speeting .the•lrish Revenue, till Thursday. - %Mr. MATTHEWS, pursuant to notice, moved - for • leave to bring' in a Bill to amend the Aei of the 13th of the King, for the Regulation of Turnpikes, as far as related:to the Penalties imposed. upon . Wagglons of a certain description. —Leave given. _ Mr..Messenx, frOm the India Board, presented the Papers ordered by the Houses, relative to the sums ad vanced to the Guicowar.—Ordered' to lie , on the Table. . • Sir C. PRICE; 'with a view: to lay several itn portant fags before the House, moved; pursuant to notice, - for an Accorint of the Number 'and Tonnage of British Ships built from the year 1790 to theyear .1864, distinguishing the Ports at which they were `built-4-of the Number= andjonnage 'of Prize Ships between the same period,--of the Number- and Ton nage - Of British Ships briilt in 18054---and of- the Number and Tonnage Of Prize Ships made free and registered from- the. ath January, 'lBO5, to the sth of January,,, i 806—Ordered. „ The , SEeIIETARY AT WAR brought in the Mutiny Bill.—Read a first, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow.. ' - . Mr. PARNELL brought in.the Bank of IreUnd De benture Interest Bill.—Read a Ist and ordered to be read a 2d time to-morrow. On the Motion of Mr. FOSTER the 2,d reading, of the Irish Linen Drawback Bill was postponed from Thursday net to Thursday se'nnight. The Irish Loan and Exchequer Bills: Bill were read a 2d time, and Ordered to be committed to morrow. The Report of the Irish Butter Bill was ordered to be further considered to-morrow. INDIA; Sir.A. WELLESLEY rose to Move for Papers rela tive to the Charge• against Lord Wellesley. These consisted of Extra&s df.various Letters from the Court.ofDireCtors,'atid froin different De partments in 'lndia, approving of the- Regulations of Marquis Wellesley, relative to the Customs and Du ties on Liq.uors, the Post Office, 'and the improve ment of. the Police, with the Replies to them also of an Account of the Revenue of Oude since the Treaty of Lueknow, &c. &c.--Ordered to be pro duced.. On the Motion of Lord , TEMPLE, the Bill-for rectifying certain. Mistakes relative to. the Execu tion of the Land Tax A&, was read a second time, and ordered to be committed• on this day se'nnight. , • The Franking Bill was read a second time, and ordered.tob committed to-morrow. :The Report of the Tortola Free Port Bill was or dered to'be further considered on Thursday. Mr. WZ,I r . SMITH -wiShed to. refer the Petition of MeSsrs. Chalmers and Cowie .to the Committee of Supply;lle would state the case now, were it not, that heunderStood•there , was to be a Motion for post poning. this business. - ' Mr-. HusxissoN said, the 'sum was 35,0001. and that the late. Treasury Board had examined the shb ke,c, and did not 'feel themselves warraoed.to ',grant , such compensation.. The Paper which .he ;moved for:on this subjea was Only delivered in the morn ing, arid he wished that the House should have time to consider the reasons there stated: Mr. S:i4ITH said, that-this affairdiad already been postponed three times, and that the Paper iii ques tion did not contain more than.a dozen lines. The late Treasury Board hhcl consented to refer'the mat ter to 4 Committee of the HoUse, but • nothing-was done- that Session. A Committee had been ap pointed this Session,' and had made 'a Report on the subject. Unless, then, it was tbr..the convenience of his Noble Friend near. him (Lord'. H. Petty) he saw no reason for putting off his Motion. Mr. LONG observed, that the shortness of the Pa per. made no great difference, since it was the prin ciple that was to be considered. As to the late Trea sury Board having consented to refer the matter to a Committee, they had not given any pledge to be bound by its opinion. .• .Mr. STURGES BOURNE hoped, that, as the at tention of the House had not been turned to the subje&, the Noble Lord would not press. the mat ter now. Lord HENRY PETTY deprecated delays in such . , cases as "the present, as they were, attended with great inconvenience.. • He wished, however, that the matter might be'deferred till Wednesday ; Mr. ROSE adverted to the importance of the sub- je6t, and the-danger of the precedent, and urged this as a ground for poitpcning the .Pilotion. ~~ Mr. WiLßEßiioncE would nOt hive , given so much. . of his time to the former Committee had he.r,iot derstood that ciovL'rnmetiowni'ticbe , -giii4ett by its statement;. thought thei);„ anddicr still, that. thz, wasA bard case., ,and that the YeliiionersAladnciaim, if not on the stri& jugtice,' at 'least oti the literality. of Parliament. . . - - '• Afr, ROSE did not mean to - say that nothing -otigl4 to be given. , _ . . Mr. SMITH replied, and stated that,. if the affair was to be postponed, he would Tfefer Friday, it being understood that it - was then - positively to come on; .It ivasaccordingly fixed for Friday. .• . PEACE IVITHS.CINDIA: Mr. JOHNSTOE wished to ,ask a question._ of an Hein. Gentleman opposite (Mr. - Creevey); It had been reported that a Copy of &letter had,, been re ceived at the India House from Lord Lake to Ge-. neral Tones, which'stated- that l'eace had been con- , eluded with Scindia. He wished to know whether this was true, because if it was: Sir George . Barlow had acted very meritoriously in this intance, and Ministers .deserved'high credit for sanctioning his appointment . ?. CREEVEY replied, that there was a Dispatch received of the nature alluded to, though not in' the exact terms. . LORD ST: VINCENT. Mr. WIN bllAm wished the H6n. Gontleman (Mr. Jeffery) to postpone his Motion ',relative to. Lord St. Vincent, as the third readingofthe Additinnalyorce Repeal Bill stood for to-morrow, and "this was a business of more extensive pi.ablicirriporOlice. - Mr. jErrnity - did not wish -his Motion to.staing in the way of public business, and baa no obje6lion to postpOne it till Wednesday, when he - hoped'h would positively come oh. Lord HENRY -PEtTY ',thought r that the. Honou'r, able Gentleman ought to state. the nature of the Charges. Mr. JEFFERY justified himself in .not having done so by the- example ,of .Mr. Whitbread; but, how ever, he had no objeCtion ,to say, ..that his Charges against Lord St. Vincent were for miscondud, ne gles6t, and mismanagement, during the time he was iu office at the head of the Admiralty-Board. THE LATE LORD NELSON. Lord R. PETTY brouaht up a MeSsage from the King, which was as follows :-- " G. R. " His 1%/lajesty having taken into his Royal consideration the many eminent and signal services of the late Admiral Lord Nelson; and fhemany glorious-exploits Which he- per formed, especially in the Battle of Trafalgar, where he most :unfortunately ; and being desirous of conferring lasting Mark of his approbation upon Services so glorious to the Navy, anti so beneficial to 'the interests of the Nation, has granted to Earl Nelson and the Heirs Male of his body, law fully begotten, and to those-to whom the title may, descend a net Annuity of soool. during their respedive lives ; and likewise of i tzo - 0001. as a further Provision for the Family, t 3 be applied to the-purchase of a House-and Lands,. for the support of the dignity of the said- Title ; 'and recommends it to the House to take proper steps to have the said Annuity and further Provision, applied in such a manner as may be most elltual for the benefit of the Family." • Ordered to be considered to=morrow. Lord DOUGLAS moved for aq Account of the Ba lances of Public Money in the hands of thelteceiver- General of the Land Tax in Scotland:on the sth April and sth of O&. 1798 ; and, at the Smile periods, in ,the subsequent years ; stating how they bad been em ployed, and what payments had been made: Also an Account of' the same nature respeEtino• the Re ceiver General of the CustomS, and the Cashier of the Excise. Also an Account of all . the Sums re covere in Scotland, from persoris convi&ed of. frauds in the Excise, in the Stamp Duties, and the S'urrp4 received as CompoSitions, and how they had been accounted for, from I'7o up to the present time.—Ordered. 'Mr. T 7 v ANSITTART brought up an Account of Of fices granted in Reversions.:—Ordered to lie on the Table. On the Motion of Lord HEkult PETTY, the Ek cise Otßce Regulation Bill was read a second time ; and;after a few words from Mr. HUSKISSON, order ed to be committed to-morrow se'nnight. • PRORERTY TAX. , • Lord H. PETTY moved the Commitment of the . Property Tax 'Bill. Mr. FRANCIS did not mean to objea to the Speaker's leaving the Chair, bUt he thought. it in cuMbent upon him to state ,his opinion of the prin-; ciple of the Bill. His objections to it were funda mental,"and not to be done away. But he knew the difficulties under which the • Ministry. laboured, and his obje& was only to clear himself from the charge of inconsistency, for he was not one who held one opinion while on 'one side of the House and another when orr another; side. His opinion was the sate as before, with this addition; that his objeaions to it had•been rendered more powerful by the augmentation which had taken place in it., " He objeaed to it as being Misnamed, and called a Pro "perty Tax, when in fa& it was an incerne Tax, and as,such unjust and unequal, and in - some cases cruel and oppressive., Having thus stated his objet ionS to the principle, he would, when it came into the Coniniittee, give his assistance to render it in its de tails as 'unexceptionable as - possible hoped it would not escape the attention of the House that we were now come to times of difficulty and necessity. The Noble Lord had found a difficulty in carrying his first Tax, and he would feel it more and more in future. It was not that he wished to oppose him, but he really trusted that the House would consider that we were come to 'the life-blood of the Coun try in Taxation, and in proportion as our difficulties increased we ought, to attend to other resource 4 These were parsimony and a rigorous levy of the Taxes at present in three. Great frauds were com mitted, in, many branches of the Revenue Depart ments, especially in. the Customs, which . might be prevented by a vigilant'Ministry. Ministers had no right to demand .more Taxes while waste was per mitted; and abbseS remained uncorre&ed. it was an old saying, and, a one, that "- Parsimony • was thebest of all 'the sources of Public Revenue." H. hoped this would be attended to. Lord, HENRY PETTY said, that every attention wot.',ld undoubtedly be paid to economy by the Mi nister. • Mr.;Wir.Linm SMITH agreed tl;ith.the Flon:Gen, tleman on the bench below (Mr. Francis) in most of o:)servations, nor was it necessary tbr him to add a )vo;;;.1 to what Le 144 before saki on this Tax. But [;fie:rnfiaer 4reiell from the Mil. tentletinn as to f tlie.r7 . pf.rom; collealoti - ,of the, Taxes. Au impartial, sco . liottion ought lundoubtedly: to be made; but the 4'ol - lift?' in lon f o,,as well aA in re, would render the i Taxes ten times more oppressive Lan at present. He believed: hnwever;that the Hon. Gentleman meant the same thing .by 7 the word'rigour which he did by -, 1 the word impartial. . : Mr. FRANCIS agreed that what he meant was an 1 -exaa' -ctilleelion... By rigiour he did not mean cruelty... - Mr. FULLER wished that the Tax had really been an InCoine Tax, and' in that case it would not bear so heavily on the- Landed Interest. Afteria few words *from Mr. TYRWHITT JONES, the Speaket left the 'Chair. In -.the Committee, on the reading of the First Clime, Sir ROBERT BUXTON, Mr. HOLT LEE, COL BASTARD, and Mr. FULLER, ohjeaed to the Assess ment on the Farmers by an: average of years, in stead of taking the profits of the year, as in other cases. - VANSITTART replica, that it was impossible •to colic& the individual profits with sufficient ac- curacy. The Clause then passed as it stood in the Bill. Several of the clauses were gone through, and re ceived,verhal Amendments. On'the Clause being read by which Masters of Families are obliged to make returns of every person in his employ liable to the Tax, . _ . . Mr. ROBSON 'staled,- that, if the meaning of the "Ar& 'was 'that a' person having 701. -or even 1001. :per...a annin a .Clerk., - . nd shaving probably . four or ti‘ - c.childr,eo j . was to be sut)jeet to its..operation,-he 'should, before the passing 'Of the Bill ; take the sense of the. House Upon it. ' tSir :ROVERT BUXTON objected to the Clause by which the full duty of 101. percent. was im posed on the Landed_ Interest, Without allowing them any deduEtion for repairs. He moved, as an Amendment, flitit a dedu6tion - of 81. per cent, on the rents, be alloFved.on.dwelling-houses, and of 51. per-cent. on. farm-houses. On this question . a pretty, long discussion took place, - when the'Cornmittee - divided--, • . ,51 129 For-the Amendment Against it • - Majority against the Amendment=7B Mr. FRANCIS repeated the'obje6tiOns - he had formerly urged as to the facility afforded under the present , Bill of entirely screening unfunded pro perty front the Tax. - He therefore submitted the propriety of having the duty on Exchequer 'Bills levied in thq same manner with that on Funded. Property. , Lord HENRY PETiY said he had inquired, and found that the deity On this species Of property was fairly accounted for, and there. was a delicacy in changing the mode ,of collecting it. . Mr. W. SMITH supported the idea of Mr. Francis, when it was agreed that :the:' mattes 'should lie over for after consideration. .* Mr. FRANCIS then moved, that.the -Exemption from Duty grafted to Foreigners StOck in. Our Funds, &c. should be done away. He con tended that Foreigners were bound, as well as the Stockholders of this Country, to contribute to the proteEtion of their own property. As to the matter of convcniency, there was, no other place, .where Foreigners .could so securely lay out their money. _ _ Mr. Sei-retary FOX felt astonished at the sug, gestion of his Hon. Friend : he• should regard the acceding to the propasal of the tion. Gentleman'as nothing short of the Con4scation of the, property alluded to. This was not a Bill taxingthe pro pert), of ':Foreigners, but ' of the subjects of this Country. He hoped we should never so far forget our own honour as to avail ourseltos of the un prote&ed situation, of, the rest of the, world ; and because they had no other asylum for their pro, perty but this Country, make so unjust a use of ou r monopoly.. • ,_ _ _ , .Mr. W. SMITH and Mr.. BANKES . supported the sentiments of Mr. Francis ; while Lord H. PETTt declared: his to be similar to those df Mr. Fox.' • The Question was then put, and the Amendment was ne g atived without a divlsion. The Cliairma.n then repoTted progress, and oh, tained leave to sit again to-morrow. Mr. TIERNEY postponed the farther consideration of the Report of the Treating Bill to Monday. Mr. PAULL gave notice for Thursday of a Motion relative to the Papers fornierly moved fur by hini concerning the Rajah of Bhurtpore. The Scotch Judges' Salary Bill was read a third time, and passed.—Adjourned a; one o'clock. MAILS. ARit tvEn—t Hamburgh. DUE -2 Dublin, z Waterford. -PRICE 01 STOCKS THIS LittY AT,TWELVE O'CLOCK. - - 6z I Omniutti 'Consols ,r -Ii II E ~T . . SOLEM QUIS DICERE EALSLINT. AUDEAT ? L 0 N D 0 AT, TUE3DAY, 24.4. Y 3; 1806. THE Hitmburgh Mail due on Sunday arrived this morning, but it brings no information respe6tingthe hostile operations' between Prussia and .Sweden of a later date than that which we Jhave already received, neither does it contain any account of the expeded changes in the Government of Holland. There is not, however,the slightest doubt that the nominal Batavian Republic will be immediately converted into a'No narchy, and 'that BONAPARTE'S Brother Loins will be the new Sovereign. It is stated in private Letters, that the Deputation which was sent from'the Hague to 'Paris have returned, and have brought with them BONAPARTE'S final determination resped ing the, appointment of Louis, who has been , for some time ill at Paris, bat who is expeted in Holland during the course of the present week. The Teople of Holland, we believe, without a single exception, would be adverse to this change in the form of their Poliqr4rpta4, even if they liad the ~ r,