The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-03-12 00:00:00

REvlstNo BAnntsxstis.—lt appears by two returns laid be- Rare the House of Commons, that the sun required to pay the ot.o of revise tike allowances and expenses of the barristers ' employed Ow list of voters, us under the R e form Act, is i 2 sit this .bout f.19,01)0 may be put down to the score of salary, and the test as expenses. The triumphant election of Mr. Lyall for the city of London is a striking proof that the people are returning to their senses on the subject of Reform and Reformers. The numbers at the *lose of the poll, were, for m ajor Lyaii 5,571; for the Alderman f Veuables 4,487 ; making a ity, in favour of Mr. Lyall, Above one thousand votes. The constituency of the country 'has learned a good deal by experience, since last December. The conduct of the Electors of the City of London shews how .ley have profited by their experience ;—ancl can any body ' , appose that they are tie only Electors who have done so?— . 4infaa Guardiam, By order of the Trustees jor Sale. By Messrs. 'l'. of & SONS, On Thursday, the 4th April, 18.33, at Twelve o'clock at noon, at the Clarendon-rooms, South John-street, in the following or such other lots as may be agreed upon at the time of sale, and subject to such conditions as will he.tireii produced, Lot 1. A LL that one undivided ' ' • art or Share of and in TRINITY CHU , situate in St. Anne's street,ro in Liverpool, with the ews, Vaults, Privileges, and Appurtenances thereunto belonging. £he Pews attached to this Share are, No:. 4, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18, 21, '26, 29, 3j, 34, 35, 36, 37, 39, 65, 66, 92, on the Ground floor.-Nos. 6,8, 11, 12, 18, 19. 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 45, 60, 61, 64, ($5, 66, 92, 95, 99, in the Gallery.- Each Pew is subject to a small annual Ground-rent. There are also belonging to this Share Forty unopened Vaultl'under the Church. 2.—A1l those Two ME SSUA GES or DWELLING HOUSES situate on the east side of Highfield-street, in Liver pool, containing in front thereto ten yards, or thereabouts, and running in depth to the Premises next hereinafter described fourteen yards and a quarter, or thereabouts, now in the occu pation of Messrs. James Hovles and Handles, as tenants thereof.—Also all that SHIPPON, situate on the west side of Smithfield-street, in Liverpool, containing in front theret o fi ve yards and a quarter, or thereabouts, and in depth to the said Dwelling-houses fourteen yards one foot, or thereabouts, now in the occupation of the said James Boyles. • 3.—A1l those Two MESS VA GE S or DWELLING HOUSES situate on the north side of Denison-street, in Li verpool, containing in front thereto eleven yards or thereabouts, and running' in depth twenty yards and a half, or thereabouts, now in the occupation of Mrs. Catherine Wilkinson and Mr. Spencer, as tenants thereof. 4.—A1l that MESSUAGE or DWELLING-HOUSE si tuate on the west-side of Soho-street, in Liverpool, containing in front thereto seven yards, or thereabouts, and running in depth forty-five yards two feet, and being in breadth at the back five yards, or thereabouts, now in the occupation of Mrs. Tarl ton, as tenant thereof. 5.—A1l that MESSUAGE or DWELLING-HOUSE si tuate on the south-west side of Ilunter-street, in Liverpool, containing in front thereto five yards,_ or thereabouts, and run ning in depth thirty yards, or thereabouts, now in the occupa tion of Mr. Gibson, as tenant thereof. 6.—A PEW in St. Ann's Church, in Liverpool, being No. 4 on the Ground-floor, and subject to a small annual Ground rent. _ _ _ the tenure of the above lots is Freehold of Inheritance. • 7.—A1l that MESSUAGE or DWELLING-HOUSE si tuate on the south side of Bridgewater-street, in Liverpool, containing in front thereto four yards and a half, or there abouts, and runn i ng i n d ept h e i g ht een yar d s , or thereabouts, now in the occupation of Mr. John Jones, as tenant thereof. The tenure o f thi s l ot i s Leasehold under the Corporation of Liverpool, for three lives and twenty-one years, one of which lives only is in being. For further particulars apply to Messrs. FOSTER and LLorn, solicitors, No. 8, Exchange-alley, Liverpool. Eaot Enbito. To sail positively on the 15th of M ch. For BA lAVIA, & The fine American Ship JAM PERKINS, S. CROWELL, er; - • 385 tons burthen.—For freight or pas ge apply to Messrs. IlluattAy, SymE, and Co. or to THOMAS ItIPLEY. MtOt IttllitO. For DEMERAR The first-class Bri W 'ONS. :iZziitr For freight or passage avpl 1.11 ,s. and H. MURRAY. For DEMERARA, The Ship MARY .3 4 * * ; JAMES NELSON ,I‘ ter; """-- Burthen 306 tons; on her fir oyage •in the King's Dock—For freight or passage apply to J. BOLTON. Iterk Will sail immediately.: For BARBA DOE The Barque BARB lAN, JEREAHAtt NAG , Master; Lying ivest side George's Dock.—Fo reight ocliassage apply to HEYES, LITHERLAND, acid Co. Wolstenhohne-squafe: . For DEMERVARA, . - The Ship CORINTH • Slt - ROBERT M‘DowAL, manlier; '''''-' - Barthen per register 391 ton For freight or pas wig; having superior cabin accommodatiOn, apply to JOHN GLADSTONE and Co. ' For BARBADO ES, - .‘• The Ship 8A1tT_,....„...„ Sgt.. ' J. J. ARMSTRONG Pi4ster; T Intended to sail on Saturday, the 9th March.—For freight or passage a ppl y to BARTON, IRLAM, and HIGGINSON. - a Vritiob anterica. For ST. ANDREW'S, A regular T; The Brig COL IST, Captain Tx MsON Will be despatched on the sth March.—For freight or passage apply on board, Brunswick Dock, or to W. SMITH and SON. In lieu of the Sir John Bere!Pid. ~.,• For MONTREAL, Die Vl', • . .e. The Al, English-built Barque LLAIDE, 6-- GEORGE PETTINGELL oinniander'; 320 tons per register, sails fast, and e Master is well ac quainted with the trade; will be punctually dispatched on the with March.—For freight or passage apply on board, George's Dock, or to WILL. SMITH and SO?. A regular Trader. For MONTREAL, Direct, The well-known fast-suipXrcoppered I bri?' Ship DRY ~ R O BERT HAMILTON, Commander; 311 tons per register; will be despatched with the first spring reosols.—For freight or passage apply on board, Prince's Dock; to Mr. A. PAELANE, 21, Water-street, or to GEORGE HIGHFIELD, Woken Will be succeeded by the Brig INDIAN, Ships-CHIEFTAIN mid MONTREAL. (One coucern.) gitant Xabigation. For DUBLIN AND BELF T. THE CITY OF DUB STEAM-PACKET MPANY,. INCORPORATED BY ACT F PARLIAMENT. The above Company sail their Vessels, (with or without Pilots,) taking Goods and Passengers to the following ports, namely, To DUBLIN Daily. To BELFAST, the HIBERNIA, every Wednesuay, from the Ularence Dock. Apply, for Dublin Line,to SAMUEL PERRY, 27, for Belfast Line, to Water-street. JOHN AITAMMON. For BORDEAUX. The LEEDS is intended to resume her station on this line the tatter end of April, or beginning of May.—Particulars in a to tare advertisement. On *alt. a p On WEDNESDAY, the 20th instant, at Twelve o'clock , at Messrs. T. and H. LITTLEDALE and Co.'s Sale )--:' room, Exchange-buildings, • i The very substantial n w Ship MILO, . 442 register tons, copper-fastened, an mines a large cargo upon ;ight draught of water; her sai . gging, chain cables, anchors, and all other stores are o the best materials and manufacture; from her build and dimensions, she will prove au eligible ship for general trade.—For inventory, &c. apply to - DUNdAN GIBB. Dimensions—Len_gth 118 feet; breadth 30 1-12 feet; depth 21 feet; length of Poop 31 feet; height of do. 6 feet; height between decks 6 10-12 feet. For SALE, ( 4 ; ‘ ,4„ The fast-sailing Brig ANDROMEDA, 4110- Burthen per register 345 10-94th tons Afililt of the best ' -- materials, coppered and copper -fas . ned, and may be sent to sea at a matt expense.—:-For ntory, &c. apply to lion., 'twirl, New Haymarket, or to Capt. WILKIE, on board, North end of Brunswick Dock. ON SALE, Red and Yellow PINE, OAK, and other and Woods, De.iverable at Quebec, Richebuc istegouche, and Miramichi, for early pment. J. NEL ON WOOD and Co. Manta. WA s N H T 6 D ze a ta n ke A a l e l ar ETC to A a N n e o a r ste f r i t- )er a - t s- e S th ß e % SH ed States.—Apply to CYRUS MOR LL and SON. ANTED, FURNISIIED APARTMENTS for a single Gentleman, in a respectable and g quit house, within ten minutes' walk of the Exchange. A : kittin g and Bed-room only, with attendance, will be required. The terms must be moderate.—Apply to Mr. FR A NCEYS, at the Standard-office. March 11, 1833. Legal Notico. It? A LL persons having any demands u on the Estate of Mr. lA._ JAMES SHAW, late of Liverp 1 'Timber Merchant, deceased, are requested to send the pa culars thereof to Mr. THOMAS WIIINNERAH, Accountant, Fenwick-street, in order that the same may be examined and paid, and all persons, any ways indebted to the said Estate, are requested to pay the amount of their respective Debts to the said Mr. Whinnerah, who is authorised by the Executors to receive the same. IINDE, Solicitor. Peremptorily. By Messrs. WINSTANLEY and SON, TO-MORROW (Wednesday) the 13th inst., a t T we l ve o ' c l oc k a t Noon, at the Clarendon Rooms, South John-street, in such Lots as may be agreed upon at the time of sale, and subject to such conditions as will be then produced,,-. ITIFie following PEWS,. situatei r larnt Mark's Chitral, JL Duke-street, Liverpool, Nos. 18, 125, 149, 183, and 184, on the Ground Ploor.—Nos. 9 and 149, form respectively two Seats. Nos. 52, 75, 95, 100, 108, and 161, in the Gallery. Each Pew is subject to a small annual ground rent. For further particulars. apply to Mr. EDWARD LOVETT, No. 27, Rathbone-street; or at t►le Office of Messrs. FOSTER and LLOYD, No. 8, Exchange-alley, Liverpool. Apply to THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD Salto by auction. THIS DAY, (Tuesday) the 12th instant at Twelve o'clock, at MILLER, WHITAKER, and EAT' NE'S, Office, Rumford street, 140 Tiereel Ja aica COFFEE. 1 Barrel Apply to Messrs. MURRAY, SYME, and Co. Merchants, or to . MILLER, WHITAKER, and RATHBONE, Brokers.. For account of the Underwriters. TO-MORROW (Wednesday) the 13th instant, welve o'clock, at Taos. Bucic LEY and Co.'s Wareho Paradise-street, 83 Coils CORDAGE, sorted) 10 Brls. Irish PORK, 20 Firkins Irish BUTTER, 30 Brls. American PORK, Damaged by salt water on board the Bob Logic, for New foundiand.—Apply to THOS. BUCKLEY and• Co. Merchants, or to W. WHITEHOUSVand SON. Brokers. SALVAGE. . . For account of the Insurance anies. On THURSDAY next, the 14th instan , "welve o'clock, at EWART'S Yard, Que street, A quantity COTTON, TALLOW, LIGNUNIVITIE, HIDES, SCALE BEAMS, WEIGHTS, OLD IRON, and other Articles, saved from the Fire in Lancelot's-hey.-- Apply to W. WHITEHOUIq: and SON, Brokers. On THURSDAY next, the 14th instant, at T ve o'clock, ,at BECKWITH and HuntlissoN's 016 c ower-garden, 10 Bales HORSE It, Ex Elizabeth, from Buenos Ayres.—Apply to Messrs. JOHN HARRATT and Sows ; Merchants, or to BECKWITH and HUTCHINSON, Brokers. On TuciRsDAY next, the 14th instant, at Twelve o'clock, at BUCHANAN and BROWNE'S Office, Oldhall-street, NS, 345 Dozen DEER SKIN - 1615 „ SHEEP S, 36 1 4 - , LA MB NS, 16 Bales HORSE AIR, Ex Elizabeth, from Buenos Ayres.—Apply to Messrs.MURFiAY, SYME, and Co. Merchants, or to BUCHANAN and BROWNE, Brokers. On account of whom it may concern. On FRIDAY next, the 15th instant, at T-vielve o'clock, at J. HARDMAN, SON, and Co.'s Offiggetxchange-place, About 8.3 Tons Sicily BRIMSTONE. On board the Eagle, Capt. HURST.—AppIy to JOSEPH HARDMAN, SON, and Co. Brokers. On FRIDAY next, the 15th instant, at Twelve o'clock, at WILL. NEVETT'S Office, Rumfo -street, 48 Tons Cuba FUS Landing at the north end Salthouse oc'k, ex Hannah and Victory, from Swansea.—Apply to WILL. NEVETT, Broker. On FRIDAY next, the 15th instant, at Twelve ,o'clock, at WILL. NEVETT'S Office,• Rumford- et, 27 Casks Sicilian ARG 120 Casks Oporto SH C. , Apply to Messrs. JOHN BIBBY and Co. Merchants, or to WILL. NEVETT, Broker. On FRIDAY next, the 15th instant, at Twelve o'clock, at. the PUBLIC SALE Room, Exchange-b ►ngs, 1000 Bales Surat CO"T . For further particulars apply to Sir HN ToniN, Merchant, or to T. and H. LITTLEDALE and Co. Brokers. THE LIVERPOOL ELECTION. The following letter is copied from the Albion of yesterday. the subject of the correspondence between Mr. Rathbone Ind myself, I have to say, that I have seen a letter from Lord Sandon, in which he states, that an offer was made by Mr. Wason to withdraw the petition against his lordship's return, provided he would not oppose Mr. Benett's motion for a committee of inquiry. I cannot state the precise words, but that is the substance of them. Surely Mr. Wason will not deny that he ever had any con versation with his lordship to that effect.—l remain, Sir, your most obedient servant, JOS. SANDA.RS. London, Ellis's Hotel, March 6, 1833. THE IRISH CHURCH REFORM BILL. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. would wish to engage the powerful co-operation of your pen, or, at least, through the medium of your journal, to call for the aid of the clergy of this town in furthering an ob ject I have much at heart, and which I cannot but think of vital importance - to themselves. When any commercial ortrading interest, however trivial, is endangered, no exertions are spared by the parties concerned to make known and assert their rights or pretensions. But when the .property of the established church of Ireland is as sailed,—a measure which is uncalled for, except by the rabble, unjust, and which will therefore be ineffectual in silencing cla mours to which it has been yielded,—l hear of no attempt made to stem the torrent of spoliation—of no petition presented in be half of the despoiled. The silence of the English clergy in this matter. does not arise from apathy, for the list of subscriptions to the fund for the relief of the Irish clergy bears noble testi mony to the sympathy they feel for their suffering brethren. It does not proceed, I apprehend, from selfishness; because their own pockets are not touched, therefore they do not think it worth their while to bestir themselves. If it were so, I would respectfully remind them (to borrow an illustration from Arch deacon Cotton's pamphlet, to which you refer in your publica tion of this day) that there is the fullest intention, on the part of Lord Grey and his coadjutors, of paying them in the end that compliment which the Cyclops paid to Ulysses,—they will be devoured the last. It must be universally felt that this bill, as far as we are acquainted with its details, will immediately weaken the Protestant interest in Ireland, and must eventually, if the danger be not Providentially averted, throw back the whole of that unhappy country into the lap of Popery.' I pur posely abstain from alluding to any details of the bill, as my sole object is to remind the clergy of Liverpool that it is their duty to petition the legislature against the provisions of the Irish Church Reform Bill, and to persuade them to earn to themselves the praise of setting a noble example therein to their brethren throughout the country.—Yours, &c. March 8, 1833. N. S. E. A paragraph that appeared in the public journals, stating that the grand jury at Hertford found two true bills against the Honourable Thomas Duncombe, for assaults, &c., committed during the late election, is incorrect. Two true bills, preferred by the Marquess of Salisbury for libels contained in the ex-mem ber's address to the electors of Hertford, have been returned, and have since been removed by certiorari to the Court of King's Bench. A COINCIDENCE.—The king of Denmark, in opening the Storthing of Norway, on the 13th ult. thus spoke of a reform in the municipal law of that country :—" A message will be de livered to you, tending to regulate for the future the corporate privileges of towns and provincial districts." It will be seen by the morning proceedings in the House of Commons yesterday, that the utility of the new arrangeinent is likely to be utterly defeated by the pertinacity and vanity, sometimes of the members who present them; but still more frequently by the notion that others, new in their situations, entertain of the expediency of vomiting forth a tissue of exple tive and crudity upon every subject that presents itself. We know to what we subject ourselves by this remark, but the adop tion of some rule to prevent the abuse of the power of speech on such occasions is becoming absolutely necessary.—Globe. It has seldom ever fallen to our lot to record a greater loss of life, in almost our own neighbourhood, than happened at the coal mines belonging to John Chambers, Esq. at Tibshelf, a few miles from Chesterfield, on Saturday morning last. The colliers assembled about seven o'clock in the morning, to de scend the shaft of a coal pit, to which a whimsey is attached, when two sets of men went down in perfect safety; . a third set then got upon the machine, being nine in number chiefly . young men and boys, but when they had descended a few yards only, the chain used for drawing up the coals by some means got mis placed, when the poor creatures were precipitated to the bottom of the pit, a distance of 90 yards; the whole of the heavy chain, with the wheels, & c. went down the shaft, which fell upon the poor sufferers, eight of whom were killed on the spot. the only survivor is a boy, who had both his thighs and legs and one arm fractured. It was a considerable time before the mangled remains could be drawn out of the pit, on account of procuring fresh tackling, &c. and in the mean time, wives, fathers, mothers, brothers, and sisters, had assembled to view the bodies of the unfortunate victims; and after the whole of them had been brought upon the surface, a more appalling scene was scarcely ever witnessed. It is said the boy is since dead.—Sheffield Iris. *alto by Auction. By order of the Mortgagee. On FRIDAY next, the 15th instant, at One o'clock, at the Clarendon Rooms, South John-street, Liverpool, AValuable Lot of BUILDING LAND, in Birkenhead, in the immediate vicinity of Hamilton-squar and having the a9lvantage of extensive trontage. 1. A Plot of LAND, containing • 5865 square yards, having a frontage of 193 feet to a sere of 20 yards, and tolhe Grange-lane a frontage of 300 feet. 2. A Plot of LAND; adjoining the last Lot, comprising 92(X) square yards, having a front of 193 feet to another street of 20 yards wide, and a front of 460 feet to Grange-lane. 3. A Plot of LAND, adjoining the last Lot, comprising 39,815 square yards, having one front of 193 feet to a street of 20 yards wide, and a front to Grange-lane of 1987 feet in leng,th. A. street, 12 yards wide, now formed, runs at the back of the whole of the Land. The Tenure is Freehold of Inheritance. For further particulars apply to Messrs. RADCLIFFE and DUNCAN, Solicitors, Exchange-street West. ILonbott FRIDAY, MARCH Bth, 1833. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. Patterson and Strang, Liverpool, commission-merchants.-11. Kitchen and G. Kinnear, Dufour's-place, jewellers.—C. M. Wilks and J. Bales, Grantham, Lincolnshire, innkeepers.—Lawe, Roskell, Arrowsmith, and Co., Preston, Lancashire, bankers.—J. Holmes and .Sons, Derby, ironmongers.—J. Newton and J. Evans, Leicester square, silk-mercers.—J. Edge and Co., Manchester, dressers.—Ham man, Ganda., and Edwards, Bow-lane, wholesale tea-dealers.—W. P. and J. Helby, I'ortsca, Hampshire, grocers.—Fowler and Co.,- Eton, Buckinghamshire, coal-merchants. — T. Ward and Co.. Oxford, che mists.—T. Rowland and W. Pitts, Plymouth, lime-burners.—Han son, Cooke, and Co., Birmingham, button-makers ; as far as regards B. Barlow.—G. Jones, L. Williams, and L. Pugh, Dolgelly, Merio nethshire, bankers •as far as regards L. Pugh:—C. Marriott, Man chester, and J. Ashton, Stockport, machine-brokers.—M. and 11. Field and H. Harvey, Stock-exchange, stock-jobbers.—J. and W. Williams, Leek, Staffordshire, grocers.—Fowler and Co.. New Wind sor, wine-merchants. ' • INSOLVENTS. March Pethurst, King-street, I lolborn, tailor. John Bellmau, Oxford, hair-dresser. BANKRUPTS. Joseph Tanslc y,Little Dean-street, Westminster, ironmonger. John Griffiths, 111'h Holborn, hard-confectioner. Thomas Brignall, Sputh 11 , 1ims, near Barnet, innkeeper. Joseph Glossop, litussels, Belgium, Ni ax-chandler. John Hellewell, Wadsworth, Yorkshire, worsted-manufacturer. William Dixon Davis, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire, inn keeper. Samuel Hobday, Aston, near Birmingham, snuffer-maker. Daniel Nield, Shaw Edge, within Crompton, Lancashire, cotton spinner. John Woolison, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire, plumber. Thomas Chambers, Leamington Priors , Warwickshire, builder. • William Partridge, Birmingham, wharfinger. Francis Lee Byrne, Kingston-upon-Hull, wine-merchant. Thomas Ilodson, Westbromich, Stailbrdshire, baker. John Brindley, Great Barr, Staffordshire, farmer. John Battyll, Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire, common-brewer. DIVIDENDS. April 3, A. Murray, Mark-lane, flour-factor.—April 1, H. J. Norris and G. Tvas, Bury-place. Bloomsbury, wine-merchants.—April 1, E., H., and T. G. Thompson, St. Martin's-lane and Cockspur-street, linen-drapers.—April G, W. Prince, Graceehurch-street, slopseller.— March 29, T. Thomas, Osnaburgh-street, Regent's-park, builder.— March 29, F. Sherley, Hayes, brewer.—April 3, J. and W. Crank shaw, Manchester, manufacturers.—April4, A. Gordon and J. John ston, Salford, Lancashire, common-brewers.—April. 1, J. and C. I'itt, Worcester, goldsmiths.—March 29, J., H., and G. Bugg, Spald ing, Lincolnshire, bankers.—March 29, S. and S. Collier, Witney, Oxfordshire, blanket-manufacturers.—April 3, A. Neilson, Ashford, Kent, draper.—April 10, J. Bowyer, Petworth, Sussex, scrivener.— April 29, J. Broom, Kidderminster, and St. Mildred's-court, Poultry, earpet-man u fa c t urer. CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shewn to the con trary on or before the 26th day of March. F. Brown, Watford, Hertfordshire, grocer.—W. Willmington, un. Milborne-port, Somersetshire, glove-manufacturer.—G. Bulmer, York, dealer,—.l. and G. Yorke, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, millers, — J. Buckley, Oldham, Lancashire, coach-proprietor.—J. Bartholo mew, St. Mary's-gate, Derbyshire, upholsterer.—J. Thomas, Walsall, StallOrdshire, saddlers'-iroutnonger. we azgels.)was so 1:1: profit realized. Besides, (Concluded th e fr rate Pa oe labouring classes had not (he would not say the 10 that was out of the question, but) the bare necessarief Lord ALTHORP had decided objections to this mail, hon. member had asked him whether the government P recently applying itself to the reduction of expen 1 „' that he would answer, that the first step which the took after it was admitted into office was to place ,t l ;; a t salaries under the consideration of a committee. 1 : mittee made several recommendations, which the gova, adopted, and their salaries were in consequence reduc e d members of the government had commenced the tasl'Or l tion with their own salaries, in order that they right to call u pon _ their subordinate o ffi cers to submit w fi t? / ‘ reductions. He certainly thought that the goverurti e " to be served as cheaply as possible., The scale of salarYZ be that which was calculated to secure a fit and efficiciltifl for the office. He was aware that the salaries of per ° o ft ployed by the government were higher than the salaries. bit, sons employed by private individuals, but they were 01,1?, , than those of persons employed by _public companies•_,,f lieved that the salaries paid by the East India Corar; • by the insurance companies, were to the full as high paid by the government. Their superannuations were , iieved, still higher. It was known that in the KO el, offices the plan adopted with regard to superannuatio ss upon the deduction of a certain sum annually from th e to secure a fund for the future support of the holders °f A report had been made to the government of the amo i 9 comes enjoyed by members of the different revenite with the intention of seeing what reduction, if any, C t ir o f d made in their salaries. A great object with governme ri o see how the public business could be done with as g reat e i as possible, but at the same time giving to those eilli l / 4 ° V. the public service such remuneration as would insure t, ht f ness being done in the best manner, and take from ;as; sons so employed the tamptation of defrauding the revel i ; would be a very ill-judged economy to keep those al,' the service of the public at such small salaries as wou la ,, them to the temptation of acting. dishonestly or careless'liA again hoped that the hon. member would not press hisl/41/4.04 He could not consent to it in its present form, yet he willing to divide against it, as it might expose him to 1 / 4 impression. o ef o Mr. ROBINSON concurred in hoping that the hon.,), e t, would withdraw the motion, as he admitted that an nate reduction of the salaries of all officers would be rs ' e,l 'tient ; and, in some instances, its operation would n°"bie partial to many o ffi cers. He was willing to give the 1 3 °„r, and his colleagues all the credit they claimed for the 11, reductions, but he must say that those reductions would 1, partitively of little benefit to the public until they did 013;r, superannuation allowances and civil pensions altoge t l , o gentleman served 23 years as a commissioner of custovoatil salary of £l4OO a year, who was superannuated on ac e deafness, though that deafness existed- from the terrn oi a pointment, and was allowed a retiring salary of EWA ) r , , though he had a private fortune of £lO,OOO a year. ale t ! i ity and Oh !) A superannuation allowance of this kind wag in defensible. • Mr. CORBETT said that one thing came out in this discV —that the Whigs did not like to sleep three in a bed• a id did not like to have places crowded, and therefore they man out to make way for another. he had seen 00.' 11 0 0 amongst many others, where a man who had held a big d tion, of which he was well able to discharge the duties, Po' sent out to make way for another, and thus the (OIL el burdened with the retiring allowance of the party who 1 " - ot 0 11 to give way. (Cries of "Name.") He had no wik a tion names, but as he had been called upon to do so, P a d l mention the names. The individual to whom he alto 00 Sir Charles Saxton, who held a high situation in on e of dockyards, but who had been obliged to retire to make Sir George Grey, and who received, on his Yetirem e°,4 lowance of £BOO a year. # rice Mr. VERNON SMITH, referring to the circumska tioned by the hon. member for Worcester (Mr. Robitl;tet the commissioner of customs who had been superano t l i el deafness, with a retiring allowance of £l2OO a year, ou sel that he did not know whether such retirement took pia the late government or not; but he could state, that 110 sury minute of the present government the retiring no of officers was reduced to one-fifth less than the scale in the Superannuation Act. It was in the discretion meat to say when a man should be allowed to retif annuation, but when so allowed the question of th his private fortune was one into which the Treasul fairly inquire. The retiring allowance must dep amount of salary he had received and the length of been employed. Mr. C. FERGUSSON said that those who were acqi the duties which many of the persons employed 11 of the East India Company had to perform would surprise that their remuneration was ample. W vernment wanted persons to fill certain situations, inquire whether it could not get men equally qualit without any expectation of a retiring allowance. I. get such men, he did not see why they should not I and thus save the vast sums which the country tv retiring allowances. The case would be different to make the selection from a small number of ql sous, or if the employed, such as a barrister, ha , his profession for the appointment ; but here it wf and when they had to choose out of a large body men, they ought to make the selection of those be willing to take the appointment without any hof annuation allowance. Mr. Fielden (of Oldham,) Mr. Wynn Ellis, Mr. Marshall, and Mr. Brocklehurst, successively ad , house, on the subject of the comparative low rat , and high rate of salaries given to official persons. Mr. BERNARD (as we understood) wished to me; tion of the house to the question that was real , (Hear, hear.) It should be observed, that the s ala- , sters and of other public functionaries had been rais,l;if sequence of the depressed vaiue of the currency. . 1 al had frequently been alluded to by different gentleraco; s t was sorry to say that it had never received the small e be tion. He hoped that the question of wages would and more made the subject of discussion in that house; e trusted that those gentlemen who really had the welP l Ve country , at heart, whether they sat on that side or the t ) , f of the house, would warn ministers of the necessity °. ing to the wants of the people. They must have log anu profits, or low taxes. (Ilear, hear.) After a few remarks from Mr. R. Steuart and Mr' the gallery was cleared for a division. No division, took place. The motion, we understood, was withdr NEW HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. Hum rose to submit to the house the motif he had given notice, for referring . to a select co' report of the committee of last session, relativ of erecting a new House of Commons. He gallant officer, not then a member of the hou. many other members, had felt that it did not accommodation for the members who were ca., ble, and that, in consequence, they could not duties comfortably. A committee was theref inquire whether any and what alterations coul, what improvements could be made in the presel due accommodation of the members. The re, - mittee would at once show the object which alike in view: The committee was occupied time in ascertaining whether the house iu wh, could be altered so as to afford the accommi and the evidence which he then held in his every person,. that neither as regarded space, other conveniences, was it possible to make sf the existing house as would meet the object stated that the length of the chamber might bf by which 70 or 80 members would be accomi there was no mode of increasing its width. F of Sir J. Wyatville, it would appear that the h , feet in width by 49 in length; and that as to ac , could not fairly hold much more than one-half It seemed that 348 individuals, not includi strangers' gallery, might be inconveniently But, if the seats were placed at such a dist; gentlemen to pass each other easily (which it ordinary-sized men to do at present) then, it w. 294 persons could sit comfortably: In no place % ant business was transacted was the accommor ingly bad. On this point he would refer to the e. member who recollected what passed a few nig' occasion every seat below the gallery was quite 366 members had any thing like accommodr between the. Seats under the galleVy. were ordinary width, so that it was almost impossi, members were, in fact, wedged in, almost barrel. (Laughter.) It was a shame that t neat county should be transacte d in a situa, wl Men who uncomfortable . (Hear, hear.) 0 their duties for 12 or 1 4 hours in that house t! with every possible accommodation. H e cow p s in that inconve n. . 11 He believed the ablest men sated lace. they had failed in effecting the object, had own observation, that sev eral members had ' the discharge of their du tie s ven tilate and purify that ousethoroug hly- 10.,01ae be belie ved al_lterghileerlerrht, eaneoa:llrmeramosiatttienueendathnoiVirhaoltreherisesonisutlltob,i; first, "That it is the opinion of this e, "eat Housenf Commons•does not afford ad 4, 4 1 ,4 for th e members. " He believed that leilent 'voice could b e f oun d opposed to this Iti k , (I T , no," and "Hear, hear.") If there we :ter e S s erated from it, certainly their ideas 01 different from his. The second resolutio t'.'n acco mmodation or improvement as the f o 'e called for could be made in the present 11( r th e 4 1 , 4 general convenience of the members." that th °ll ,in which they were at present place Pra st i e e _Y tos . t from twenty to forty minutes in g u •„, eof dividing, which rendered it neeessar, a tlt lnG the lobby. It was frequently with the g kebsTMetiraes not without using gentle force (a out the were got out. If they continued tilt gener..„ minority in which number, he feare( th(li vi liq found (a laugh,) the consequence wo 04 i_als who ca me ear l y wou ld b e d epr i ve 1, 04) ,i,P u 0 to rt aut occasion s an d o th ers w h o h a d ke ion 'of them. Hear, hea thefrrivate billss he had known men to sit and t • vinclinations rather than run the risk of lo ilase'ng Gut. (Hear, hear.) He had kno• nai-tr,,ntained fast asleep in their places, are Ntle'ras supporting the very motion to whic e a nn aivisions they could save half at Were It °n of very considerable importance, „ l l' a variety of business. Now, with r l rt: e tthwti Id : ee tv i :oshhuooorsuueeu. es s re e bte , hyota h rht l e rAk io u lmw n rn, .o d ngu e l Aoli r denu s y t ttobhooweend thaturequiredoibibyffeo rN e edf x ceota p xr n e t , n ael t l k ier 13li ght be enlarged in the direction of ng the e l3 a u i t i t w h o e u y ld w b a e nt o e b d st p r r u o c p te e d r y b - e y n t ti h l e ati 3 !.It gallery 'build was, therefore, objec sinif,4l)roposed to in a direct line betw Y riv er- To thatproposition he believed th tihjisseutin. voice. lu England they were evec t to public buildings; but he could r iillet,Bel. j hesitati on i n say i ng, t h at w h ere b us i ue to ted. lllo rtance was transacted, those by whc tgeteCmiold be all owe d th e utmost possible a itteti so he felt no unwillingness whatever o Lea r - cto him that consideration was a m Z a .) Looking to the national expend k i l ieei e v „ - ',,anner in which the public money w 1, 4 1(4 1h - g, that the propriety of devoting a sum t nad described would not admit of any t wt isa4g t et.Utletnen, he knew, cherished a strong oayry kil 't!".t had passed in that house, and were, in sa t /ti nns.that no change should take place. );" ( ini s ! r into the feelings of gentlemen on that „Th ll ., utility was what they ought principi Gn.that ground alone, he was anxiout 2)ktiabTrward. There was a part of the house Feat ala,',4Yhtee prat . r o ; rtl. spa ( c A e b p e r lo o w lon th g e ed b c a ry r af o o t . r • d , , 8 ..1 tual illustration of the hon. member tZlice s ' v er plan might be adopted he hoped that ki . „ 111 (11 ) . 4 t Present felt would be remedied. I teihip;„ . 4 subject f or f u t ure consideration : he ts, b ver y ° Li' be don e h as tily. H e th oug ht i t woi kcs„,„!tie, from the few observations he had in Ifrnodati on than the house now afforder t te ot e i Proposed to move that the report of th tk,Nes ) .„,l l lst session, for making the house more 1 0 - . To t .',4 to a select committee, and that the c it b t ° report their observations and opinio ) 1 , -1 4 " f ' s ,e, He believed that the noble ford rcoti,;„ - ...is course. The committee could call f ei been have plans and estimates laid eta , ', k een. a proposition to remove the lion e i - lin he felt satisfied that a better buil& et,,,,,,5e Where, but they could not well alter tilt 1 4, 6 t. a a - c ' t ° ns without changing that of the Lords jhst as he believed they were not prepared t( the House of Commons. Th "t' to r es l‘ s ji - t : to ct ea ( i g n i y ea o t f laughter), it woinu be better d es with a motion to the effect before sta IltuaroN seconded the motion, and rel kr. Smirke, from which it appeared th iodation for more than 350 members i 'tie space under the gallery, and allowinF Aalf for each individual. 560 members and, according to the calculation, 210 lot have found convenient Owes. He .Person s th oug h t a space o f one f oot e i g l tht inches sufficient for each member, an .11 t.'" t he house would accommodate more ti ; nsider the space allowed by a Mr. Smirk , 4 t be borne in mind that members who usually ugh t e r r o el ua u i rceodssd consideration byonwhich, o two , rathertai ii old show that there was not acconimodati Members. He objected to the ()blot' ',lnconvenient and every way inferior ti : I° : nteh wo u ld a dmit of a b e tter position for tr ek he now occupied. "Sir," continue i t °4 have not, like Janus, eyes in your ' l lnot always see in every direction. (G: I Y, Sir, you have not eyes in the back of no t see what goes on in that part of the its r, which is called, I suppose, from t 1 li ar occupants Solomon's porch. (Laug . htc "ar, there is 'frequently the greatest diso: i vented if you could have your eye on e , a ' l lgh.) On these grounds, of its inconvenient shape, bad air i t - t4 - ,` with the present house. One of the newt to t aAtan held in view for constructing a carried on without interrupting any o ( ' pll et tl e r inlhe house or in the cominittee. N - e completed by the commencement a AL T 02 i toa -R ° ll P admitted that when there was a vl,k:o4ttrytalienee was felt, and such being the c. to decide upon what was . best . to be dont ktl/4)::4l:4l)rider this in the light of a ministerial or part: kliellktlto the house to consider as individua ( , t toun necessary._ It e w x lt s u te h c l i r a elu c i e re ss u p ,ll l l . ( i l ta at 'in o tl O •. o ly f tr i t l hat se the b r u e t he was accessible t5101;44 obj e ecti u on 'to a select committee t , ' l ignite into the subject. la • ‘ t ki rts agreed with the hon. member for it t e, should not constitute an obstacle to thl Iteration appeared to be necessary; not whether the house afforded sul two or three nights in the year—sucl it whether it was adequate to the trap every-day business? Had any gentle which the ordinary business of Parlian han in the present house ? The rea was there not ample aceorc the country was done by houses col '? It was better to have the house too to year than too large on all the ?email ittuals ever formed a deliberative E eted to any alteration, on the grou feeling that might be produced by a ssociations, and the abandonment :( nlecti eus of the noblest patriotism, an, nee. tREk observed, that he dissented altogc house. t ug the best interests of the country -e of members took place: and those the hon. baronet; it was iilliO n ee k Bins w eb( h ie e rb n sy: it was most important to hieh the house did not now present. . uss °rq said that, according to the h room for such an attendance as gen .se of a turnpike-bill, but when great a le "1Y AnetsptirTsen'talhaesre 1 °11 t ; s a rose, it mattered not if the hom b ' ie a° l l for one-half the members who "'• mora l feelings and associations still lid, th at to wa t s he no a t eco . m eing the case, steps must be RAm said a few words, which were not expel:kneed ,RD had sat in three Parliaments, an He did not agree with the hon. me tking a space of two feet nectss.ry fl each member. It was well known tl el within a space of 18 inches. WI liament occupy a larger space? (Grc tans (laughter, which was renewed on ing the words, which he did three sere no deficiency of accom latent in the house allowed him to pros Itered the size of the Forum kontanun ( I v _2r.) He wished to follow the examp '4llg,hiter); hs did not want to get rid of the le , on of ire 0 0 'opt! 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