The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-02-26 00:00:00

COLONIAL QUESTION. xcellent speech upon this subj, ID, of Arnhall, at a late meeting :flub, at Laurencekirk i the Colonial Question is ndt m, never was a subject on which warp and deceive the mind. . limited measure of information n ignorance. It has been usut tress themselves as if fearful to in connected with that part of thr ving done anything in that count wet. I was concerned for mot ever was in the West India Col f, in any instance, being instru , in the punishment of a negro, wl harge myself with severity. 07 hirty-two years' continued resid , s expressed, my attachment to th , breast did not warm at the sight iut I would not admit that my le ashamed of being a Colonist. ry who carried the African to tl and created the present state of , it fond of speaking of myself, but the Colonists be judged by th, mmunity, exhibited want of fee! l believe me guilty of cruelty ti part of a savage during the be' ly act his part with general app; me society, With permission I i lone sufficient to lead men to refl, ,ble the inhabitants of Britain art 'the West India colonies. Whe of the Lords' House of Parliai ed that a negro on one of my est , rear food sufficient to suppoit c. prove this, I quoted historical s, who wrote upon subjects uncon. my first day's evidence, most of it committee thanked me for, am ; what I had delivered. His Grac, vas in the chair,- I understood fi Id his approval in the most flattl iese noblemen must have been ; expect that ministers will - act of this country have long been vill satisfy but the destruction oft, cen coerced by them into the m, ;ures ; the wheels of governmen' 3uld only move according to the ere gratified in their extravagant the negro will be found to labour e benefit of the master, if immedi. igh these same men have levie, o an immense amount, and throe iv ed and expended millions in va tve that these people will become have failed in every instance; i sr been brought together capable e colony of Sierra Leone was 'riled on with this view for upwa, cost this country several millions. ifficial despatch from the Coast ndigo plant grew wild in the strel e) ; but was ever an ounce of ii duce, brought from thence? ' lifficulty than is generally imagined. re not to be changed by an order in corn' British Parliament; he is a different' , " he white. Practical facts tell us more mbject. There is not any instance of,, 'cm one extremity of that continent to ' d and brought into civilized society; and e philanthropic experimentalists should i t n some one of the various attempts ma y at the negroes in their present state are P I ithout practising their hypothetical prole West India colonies. Every farmer 10 0 re of depression in any branch of our mal l ffects the price of cattle. What then n this respect alone to the landed iuterf ' a market for five millions of British go t colonies ? (The speech was received I ' . by the party.) egislature of Tobaga have resolved, tb 'anion Chief Justice Bennett is wholly l the duties of his station as chief justice -A hackney coachman was charged be { Magistrates, on Friday, with having 11 language to a gentleman who had / 1 ' Piccadilly to Brompton, for which mid him 2s. (6d. more than his legal ssatisfied, said, "I wish the next time, coach you may break your neck !" m forty shillings. BILL—The petitions in favour of iwns of Great and Little Bolton, are II ) [n Great Bolton the petitions are signeuo, ergymen, 70'2 tradesmen and shopkeepe. ) operatives; only 14 objections to sigh., in the whole township. In Little Bolt', medical men, 3 clergymen, 300 gelit, ,pkeepers, and 1200 operatives. We 133 ' fusal.—Bolton Chronicle. ESS.—On Monday evening the Cheval 'red FitzherbeTt, Dart., alias James 80 1 1,, swindler, who had lately figured at t , s brought before the magistrates of ace, by a serjeant belonging to the . F . ..) rvice, (who on that day had enlisted hit having him attested. On this occasiollj iuming the plain name of James Montar o ; by the late gales of wind to the shippiug at ious. Up to twelve o'clock on Friday, twenty wrecks had been received at Llo) .pest and oldest trees in the Mall, in wen blown down by the recent storms. 'r first year of the reign of James the Fie 6 b' i Friday morning, in the laundry bei As soon as it was discovered, th. sting of drums. The engines were was extinguished;_ but not before injured, and all the linen burnt. P.—The following notice is from :—" The arrangement made by Mr s business orders free of postage, o very reprehensible." Dues this a Wigan ? and is he the same ge' ndon papers have conferred the h( Richard Potter presented a petiti, ikspeare tells us that " some men greatness, and some have greatne, ock on Wednesday last a gentlem, r an English house, was stopped on instown, by six fellows, four of wh/ the fifth with a carbine and a pit A only. They demanded his arms none, they asked him why he tray 1L le was not arras; - never navntg aol eighbour. The leader of the party of his gig, and, asking him for th miffed it and every part of the vehit ing any arms, they proceeded to se hey did not want money ; he was tl is gig, without their having taken had upwards of £2OO in notes and so • ken ny Moderator. LATIONS IN SPAIN.--On Wednesday log i ";€' ived in the City of London, respecting theo in Spanish ports. Sections 1 and 2 state..„ r if s of health will be allowed to enter at the P r he vessels entering Spain from places fori,tt e t , era morbus, to be subject to fourteen days ,arantine, and with susceptible goods tw`•,,P from France and Cette, ten days' quaran`iio late travellers by land. and impose a quariuY usceptible goods from France are still subil ie ! intine. Sec. 9, Frenchmen from the fronj on showing from whence they come, and tb pain. See. 10, the other regulations of the V 'main in full force. dARY, FEB. 21st, 1833- I ADMITTED. 31 In-patients . . 9 Out-patients . . 3 Casual during s I. P. 1 the last week 0. P. . 2 Remain in the house Concluded from page 219. an experiment in representation; the issue of which it Stave behoved ministers to have awaited ere they ventured other experiments.' The hon. member concluded with " That the order of Monday last, for referring the • alt. li. Franks to the committee on corporations, be Arg e a, , , it galy zttotre would oppo se th e hon. member's .Motion, tol t the. ground that it s adopti o n 'Would be, pro tan a_i,t,lanion of th e h ouse as to what su b jects did or did not of theinquiry into institutions. the muuicipal institutions cif London aceembd the corpo ui the , prop el s s e c oP c e alled, and the liverymen • a n an could , n o atues of liveryman but through those'charterd trad frocorampbanie; (if which the 'Merchant-Tailors' . Company was -•=d the the least influential. 14 therefore,. this company , iat power of making liverymen, it plainly was .a mu gal that could not claim exemption from his ref I'll' inquiry • (Heir, hear.) The hen. inember called _ ent rued h ouse an experiment. Adinittetl; it %mean ex which h a d transcendently succeeded (cheers); which ;I_"nously falsified all the sinister auguries of the opponents (Lontinued cheers.) nit'. said that o nly, a P ar li amen t ar y in qu i r y cou ld a l s etnedy for the abuses of almost all existing corPora outY t e •he 2nd George I. these coorations wereentirelv ether the 'control of the people, andtintil itwas repealed, merit 3 ennt, provements introduced, it would be usies4ltylry tr-"' any - caus e , however - founded in justice, in West -he Y their charter the Merchant Tailors' Com-: ,al quoted the case merely as a practical instance of mu 7 eaterned " — were entitle& to charge 2s. 6d. for every appren within their body; they charged, however, some t ilii Pas• An acti on . was lately instituted agaiusl them ,b — "°h; the magnanimous company suffered judgment it I Y : def ault; he n e ed no t sa y why. (Hear, hear.) that Nantitit'LL, having tniderstood the noble lord to til e inquirie s of the committee were to be eiclusive, .baited to municipal institutions, moved as an amenu `that i t be an instruction to the Committee on Corpora )al righ att end to such parts of the Petition only as relate to ts : ;ft , °ll, agreed with the noble Chancellor of the Exche '' to adopt a motion like the present could have no other d e 4 o alt s limit 'an inquiry which - those acquainted with cor hno,2ol-knew could hardly be too 'unrest ricted. (Hear.) -e it was suffi c ient t o know th a t these trading . coin- re governed by laws and , regulations of an obviously ~,e h aracter to pronounce them strictly municipal (hear, , 44 it would appear to him - to be the grossest perversion ', a ge represe n t th e m as merely trading associations: '',Arattorte felt that if he acceded to the hon. baronet's whip's) amendnient; he should' be laying . down a pre m.' h ight be abused as a means of restricting such a 'Oily into corporations as the public interests impera ' demanded. G,atltnuips supported- the amendment. `S ;W said, 'that bne'great benefit to be by the appointment of this committee,' whatever the .0f some persons might be upon it, was that the affairs fi t eo hlpany must become the subject of investigation, and e whole subject of miniicipal rightS . would be brought Consideration. (Hear.) The question was, whether the .41,1 t Tailors' Company, and other companies in London, ~lo a ne made the subject of inquiry- of this there could be , te ` . 4 ; for, as this company he mentioned was so intimately Se ` 4 e.."l with the corporation of London, and was in the ex that municipal rights, there could be net the least doubt _it must be subject to the same inquiry 'which the house g i e ! to subject other trading corporations to. (Hear, hear.) 4 1 1 .1e hnin had been bold enough to assert that the corpo had not exercised Municipal function; and enjoyedpal , rights. But was th ere any member able to- draw a bod bod y 13 the - h ouse f rom historical detail, what portion of t y isll connected with the cor p ora tion of London; and portion of it is independent of them ? No gentleman, ennse even ' the member who brought forward the motion, and teetlernan could, by any . nossibility, draw such a line, and q uer itlY, must be well acquainted with the subject— . _oere the house must be incapable of giving any particular ns in reference to this corporation • they must, there .°e under the necessity of doing one of two things ; either eil[lpt the corporation altogether from the proposed in- Y, or have the investigation committed entirely to the good ~:._and parliamentary knowledge and integrity of the gen r!tt_onaposing the committee. (Hear, hear.) ej i n e hLr ig f e o s r ts H ; WARBURTON said, that this corporation must be subject Wry as well as others for it was strictly muuicipaL The ' referred to a passage of the Roman passage gave a clear definition of the I; . lag of the word municeps "Et propriequidem reunicipes isge<intur muneris participes, recepti in civitate, ISt muncra spahra facerent." Municipes are those who undertake the it i entent of civil offices. The Fishmongers' Company exer k4eint municipal office by. clearing_ the fish market of stink- laugh); and the Merchant Tailors' Company, in like kli o "had thei r mun i c i pa l o ffi ces o f i nspec ti ng an d superin ig the cloth market within the city, and must be subject to clutry rai se d which is extended t o th e res t. The former company £3 Itlie price of admission to their freedom from 3s. 4d‘. at o f ; If asked the reason of this, they would say they did Ites p o verty —from their feastings and drinkings; these ex -4t o „, -",'" all their accoun t s oug ht t o be, examined into from books. The committee would stultify itself by r f o r K confin- Inquiries to the limits pr o .) posed by the hoaourable ent (Sir E. Knatchbull tiotetuceosier said that this . question had been long in 4 41,,i t 'and had become a subject of deep and general interest hp ' J ut the country. He was, therefore, anxious that the I % i l ls of the coshould be so directed as to gratify kt . t a l i e s of the c li o l u m n i t t rv e . e The duty . of . the committee was to o w, hat the praciice was in existing corporations. t litl 4 gilt to know what the corporations did, whether their the sufficient, and whether their . jurisdiction was efficient purposes for which it was given. All these points, g discussed in order so see whether there was any ktaio,.e'°lls,_ and what, in the present system. When th . e ,"e had examined into these practical p9ints of mum klii:Pnrations, if the result of their examination should the ta c t th at t h ese corporat i ons were ' insufficient for '4l l l:Poges f or which they were intender!, and that they were \at,- i mprovement, a great benefit would be obtained. for improvements were to be made iu them remained Ise; all the committee had to do was to•pOint 'out :ions and wanted correction. (Hearj 's agreed with Mr. Acereromby . in stating that the L this subject was not of recent growth. He had a the subject from his constituents, which had been Mme weeks since. fiereneuLL said that he had proposed' his amend_ - ie hop e t h at i t expresse d th e ° p l utons of the noble ite, but as he found that it did riot, and that the he house was acrainst him, he would, with permis irava his, amendment. ATTWOOD briefly replied to the arguments of the !Peaker s and defended the course which he had ie itself bound to take. on the present-occasion. 1 'vet', yield to the sense of the house, although his s. remained unchangeed. 'n was then, by permission, withdrawn. VOTE BY BALLOT. Tg postponed from Thursday, the 28th of February, ' the 15th April, his motion that the votes at elec 'Albert to serve in Parliament be oaken by way of MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE HOUSE. lvek:u.ott of the EXCHEQUER, before the house se 7ge& to call the attention of the house to the circum , during a debate that evening respecting military ifficers having seats in both houses, expressions had bat were calculated to create an unpleasant feeling ids of the parties. He had no communication with and was only influenced by a desire to remove any impression that the observations might have made. ill 'ember for Middlesex had expressed his opinion that a , the armv and navy always voted with the government, 411 y 111 „, time he said, that he did not mean any thing per- Re f r „s'uensive. Those observations produced strong lan -11 tO ts the hon. member for Gloucester (Capt. Berkeley,) Pa 6 Ou• memer for Middlesex retorted and thrw the " 4 th e "ack with b contempt. He would appeal to the e house i ncv e :i!lestion. He was sure the hon. member for Middle ltate hon a personal offence, and that he would not je 11 04. r eca ll expressions which were calculated to give pain 4 1 1. ii,.and gallant member for Gloucestr. (Hear.) ; tae d 4 a said that he would state what did take place dur liaio4 he ate referred to by the noble lord, and upon which Is ke el (111 r. Hume) had said that he hoped no expression k l ke,,,,u give offence to any individual. (Cheers.) The 4 llti,7 u er for Gloucester observed, that his (Mr. Hume's) 44 1 , 1, such a dishonourable feeling . to officers in the army 4 What' h e arise from a conviction in his own mind that it s illly e would do if in their situation. He (Mr. Hume) th e w threw the remark back with contempt. Contempt i iittl tt ld he used. It was a word that was often used, but, 1 (114te t/pe:( always impropeilyso, fur, in his opinion, it was a i hl y ,gh t never to be used in Parliament. (Hear, hear.) Ilev tir ct was to set himself right with the house. He ` l isposed to quarrel vitb any wan; he never wished -1 111, ... ,;, . oimossj" --- --- . --,---- ttself-hut a iect wa s Nit ( )aid hav e ig of the ‘Pon. other koving, nere ly illetitiou of h m ore Ascharged On all el' Lord AI ii i s D am/were it onl ual for C l' , an opin acknowleAkil withi n ie emPir e i 4 ',"' the ra ntry of " t u° ll pro s ore liroT.tainthe 1 :olonies; cig oemp a ralar rumen.„.• from be where I r`, ereised Dn retert e iPat in s idence ill. rPoratiot the ColoVhat refor a t of the 1314eritnent 3,3 duct Sad .or' COD t i c esl 10i It was t r etorra. the Colo lo Mr., IL society, 21 ,, ffn rn a rei tin thls s,,Z i , in s• by heir act i , L lZ e n 'out I !ling to 1 7.`" other Lo the per k ? merits titter yea P. r u ster 4 probati° ll t io!nY---be t will rneoletPal abu lect and ince enterer •e of illagPree gu i tu en exate_ 4 ! extarti e ament, 70 b y de states e o _,., I.r E . t him dol r il, that t h al facts ' ••m° l►ma. nnectedl; ea?,:, the A . the 14:11 art 4 ' to Id exp 7 - i 9leip a l , ce the Pa jtr, 40 , from set:itr, that tering IS ''t %a z , that 1 tr °r atietas 1 ou such c ' r .hinls e i deceiv tires we the cold I lmrate c most ab. aro and at have 1 lancp u ," e will of lea? b gt i t ideas. 1 Lard' A e l a , r for hirls iately eLI eat whi, ad contr' iaq u i r , nigh the ely ae . l 2 arious 0 ir. Ga t ' a industt, he s ou in no s"" Il ed by of su . pPf nin e a 1 establish this c ~,, ards of f° the °--1, 3. Sir Jai er „ n w. '• it of Af. o r' haat, 1 .eets of -' etob e i indigo, t r . doubt ; il atehbu The tn, Peetco ' I ' l[l7 ' 4l 4 1Ceri c ieloug_, ,th e h 1 he al,"0 'lv es s ° ll ' ~ . r. , vie] ..11 8 e 0 1 0 ; le tt l A j i a tkE ' htkiii on 46.44 ott 1 the x t „ r , S' to 8 ,, r. Potv o l 44 v;;• b ,: doe! li e t v i la t,i, e s re fer o p )illir,oPPosit4 matle o i 1,,, -,Lf th ionou r 0 si p -no,d ra ion if t :t t ,..l &I. A aro jo ti Illt wne ess th" it 44 hi 4 k h°w # ll9 %I' nail, i writ 1 his 1 1; r `lotioi koni 11 !,, p. r, istol, ' • 'flori s: 0 0 4 t o tsd ay, Ileti o d ' r Mot one Sy., • theo" , t le kel, vit kl , ide ,33 ' e , be g , earch qa that, ' then I' 4 , - , 3 !al off . a ei l :AtiC * ,, , e4 th; 3ve ra'r Ne: ,ind ; tle a v„, 4 tty, 6 ' gil t h ra 4 Ace '1 lagtL t % ih .1' IL INFIRM. D. vquest . and Surgeon, Dr. Renwick and Mr. FoisN sl urgeon, Dr. Banning and Mr. Bicketeteth• kora, Mr. Heywood and Mr. Booth. It. Datin.—Houso Surgeon. T. Moo* THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. to. give personal offence to any. (Hear, hear,) Those with whom he had quarrelled most in that house he had always met on the best terms on the other side of that door. Like lawyers, they had battled their points warmly, and, sometimes perhaps, angrily; but when the argument was over, their warmth sub sided, and they met on amicable terms. (Hear; hear.) The hen. member concluded—l had, no intention, by my observa tions this evening, to offend any man, but in the heat of the moment I retorted with warmth, which, if not justifiable, may perhaps be considered excusable. (Hear, hear.) [At the conclusion of this speech there was a loud cry for Captain Berkeley, but as he did not come forward, it was taken for granted that he had left the house.] The SPEAKER said that the house was grcatlyjndebted to the noble lard'for drawing their attention to the subjeet, as it. was mostessential to the dignity of the house that personal offence should not bo given. He regretted'that the honourable member for Gloucester was not in his place for he.recollected the ob servations alluded to ; the hon. mertiber for Middlesex said that he meant no personal. offence, but that he would treat insinua tioni witli the contempt that his insinuations were treated with by the hon. members on the other side. The house was greatly obliged to the 'noble lord, and he was sure the house must be satisfied with the explanation. If the house were satisfied, the most gallant and honourable man that ever lived must feel him self satisfied. (Cheers.) If he did not feel confident that the explanation was sufficient, the house, he would say, would not da its duty if it did not send for the honourablemember for Glou cester at once to see whether he were satisfied. He did not pro pose that; for what gave satisfaction to the Commons, must give to the. most sensitive feelings of any individual entire and perfect relief. (Cheers.) Lord G. LENNox, if he might express the feelings of his hon. and gallant relative, would venture to say that he was satisfied. If the opinion of the house, composed of gentlemen of all ranks and of the different services, felt that the honour of his gallant relative were satisfied, his hou. relative would be willing to bow to the decision of the house. He regretted the languaga used by the hon. member for Middlesex. The hon. member had said first the gallant admiral, and then that he did not mean the gallant admiral but the gallant captain • and the hon. Member had made an apology to the house and - not to the individual. The hon. member had not intended, however, to insult or make any personal attack on the gallant captain, and he would say, in the gallant officer's name, that he was per fectly satisfied. Here the matter dropped, and the house adjourned. CORRESPONDENCE. THE MOVEMENT. TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL ST.4.VDARD. SIR, —The work of spoliation progresses ; three millions of church property in Ireland is to be sacked for the purposes of the state, and an extinguisher put on ten out of twenty-two of her bishops. This is very well for a beginning ; but " what need of ten, or five,—what need one ?" Truly the Reform Bill is but the means to an end, and things will be brought to an end more speedily, I fear, than the most revolutionary ever dreamed of. Why " King Dan" is all amazement : "he can not refrain one moment from expressing the great satisfaction and delight he felt at hearing the plan of the noble lord (Al thorp). In his opinion ministers_ had proposed an extremely wise plan, which contained in it the principle of future amelio ration." No idea of stopping here —on, on—more reform— more work—more cutting down—more robbery—more sacri lege. What says your Catholic contemporary on this blessed affair? Only "hear him." " This (writes the sage in the Journal) is a bold attempt, and is even more valuable for the principle it recognises than for the reform it effects. One of the Saxon converts, to disabuse his countrymen of their super stitious reverence for their heathen temples, hurled his spear at it, and the act of desecration haYing been committed with im punity, the conversion of the edifice to a better purpose quickly followed." There needs no cEdipus to read the riddle of this sphinx : would we could be as easily rid of the monster ! The Protestant church, disabused of the reverence of its worshippers by this bold stroke of convert Althorp, is to be turned into a Catholic chapel; and not unlikely, as you hinted in a late num ber of the Standard, his apostate brother, with a cardinal's hat in anticipation, may be preferred to the honour of the Catholic primacy of Ireland, in the first year of the reign of " King Dan," in gratitude for this double secession of these Siamese brothers from the purified faith of their fathers. But, if you please, we will see what more the Journal has to advance on this subject. He " speaks right out,"—" our cheeks and hol low eyes do witness it:"— " Though the first step is a bold one, it is obvious enough that a farther advance will at a suitable period be made, for the principle will furnish a precedent, should a further reform be deemed necessary. The present measure takes the cess only from the church; it distributes with more equal hand the funds of the establishment. But if the legislature can blot ten dio ceses from the ecclesiastical map, the same authority may make a further reduction in the hierarchy, and release the public from the necessity of paying annually, to a single successor of the apostles, more than is received by the families of 'four hun dred of the hard-working operatives of Manchester:" There can be no "misunderstanding" the above, al . Cobbett said, when he proposed sweeping away the whole of the Irish hierarchy. To this, indeed, do these movements tend, and with nothing less than the possession of all will these agitators be satisfied. Will this be allowed ? " Quo, quo scelesti ruitis 7 Furorne ccecus, an rapit Tis ucrior t An culpa 7" Next comes "Corporation Reform," It is highly Aesirable, says this same Solon of the exchequer, " that an inquiry should be made whether there should not be an alteration made in their constitution, in order that they may be made more popular and more beneficial to the community to which they belonged." There is something ambiguous here . they are either the people's —the community's property, or they are not, 'and their right had better be decided before their complaint of mismanagement be entertained; but this is not a question with your cheap phi lanthropists ; so to make it " agreeable" and " effective" to the complainants, the English and Irish corporations are to t4taken together, under the plea of introducing a certain number of English members into the committee on Irish abuses, " to act by way of restraint on that eager feeling which prevails in the Emerald Isle on political points so likely to . prejudice their judg ment in the settlement." What sagacity and forethought ! But who does not see that the arrangement is to admit the repealers into the committee for remodelling our constitution on this side of the channel ? so by their " sweet voices;" and the furtherance of the pledged " purifiers and disenthrallers" of our own body, our corporations are truly in a fair way of becoming vastly popular and beneficial to the communities to . which they belong. On local topics a word or so. The bells rang merrily on Sa turday night, on the occasion of the verdict in favour of our cor poration, to the joyful hearing of all loyal subjects and good citizens of the old town. So may all paltry " penny wise pound foolish" plots on a valuable estate be confounded, and the hold ers secured in the _possession of "chartered rights." "Be all plotting contrivers left in the church." I sincerely trust that they have been " well peppered," and have paid a valuable consideration for their gratuitous interference. I suppose the absent " Sub" at the 'meeting to talk over the Exchange News room monopoly, has not yet returned to receive the commisera tion of his clique on this double defeat. I dont expect them to be much disheartened—like blundering Jue of Middlesex, whom nothing abashes—they have a comfortable knack of con soling themselves - under such disappointments in the forlorn hope, that eome one of•the many irons they keep in the fire will turn up trumps. Beaten at the election—discomfited at the News-room—overwhelmed with the decision " v. Bolton and Others"—there is still the Dock Committee Question to cling to—Egerton still goes on manufacturing . cork collars in case of the worst, and when the usual period arrives for the launchin of Coglan's floating a rk, we shall be amused, as of Tore, with the aquatic gambols of the mermen, still alive and kicking, al though the happy period be not then arrived when all " the dioceses are blotted from the ecclesiastical map,.and the public still under the necessity of nMking an annual payment to a sin gle successor of the apostles !I"—Yours, Livery - 4W,, 1314 Feb., 1533. FIDELIS. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, ?a (Before Lord Lyndhurst and , a Special Jury.) WATSON v. COLQUITT. . . This was an action for an alleged libel, written by the de fendant in the form of a letter, which appeared in the Albion newspaper, concerning the loss of the ROtasay'Castle, to which the defendant pleaded a justification. The plaintiff's case was conducted by. Mr. F. POLLOCK, Mr. F. KELLY, Mr. FOLLETT, and Mr. JONES; the defendant had the SOLICITOR-GENERAL and Mr. J. JERVIS. The letter was written upon the loss of the Iqothaay Castle on the 17th Augast,•lB3l, on the Dutehman'S 'Bank, in her pas sage from Liverpool towards Beaumaris, when so many persona lost their lives, and was as follows: " TO TILE EDITOR OP. TILE ALEIVN. " Si a,-Having noticed a letter from Mr. James Watson, of 16, Water street, Liverpool, dated August 21, to the editor of the-Mien news paper, in which be states, that the report of the Rotlisay Castle (mean ing the said steam-boat or vessel of the plaintiff) not being seaworthy is " unfounded," and offers in proof .certificates (meaning the certi ficates aforesaid) si*ned by persons whorri he denominates " well known, disinterested, and experienced," it becomes necwary to Corns pare these documents with the evidence given before the toner's jury, as to the real cause of- th e loss of the vessel, (rneanin the said. steam-boat or vessel df the said plaintiff ), which would be eat done by publishing the whole of it in the same paper,,and stating ftrrther circumstances in proof of the real state of the vesSel.(meaning the said steam-boat or vessel of the plaintiff immediately' prior to her being wrecked on the Spit Sand, when it will probably be found that the certificates have gone to prove too much.:—First, to have required the repairs stated by Mr. Morrison and confirmed by Mr. Wilson, the Rothsay Castle (meaning the said steam-beat or vessel of the plaintiff) mast, prior to that time, have 'been little better than a wreck ; and if so, secondly, what becomes of Mr. Daney's assertion, independent of the contradiction of the latter to the first part of it, where - he saya he was " satisfied," when at Glasgow, of. her " being a good vessel,' and his confirmation of the. extensive repairs Mr. Watson (meaning the plaintiff) had found it necessary to give her ? Thirdly, what are we to understand by Messrs. Shenur and Pile's certificates, that they commanded her (meaning. the said steam-boat. or vessel of the plains tiff) in the months or February and. March, and after such extensive repairs as she had received in the former month, she should be jcidged by " experienced builders!' to require further repairs in August, 'nut that she (meaning the said steam-boat or vessel of the plaintiff') was a crazy vessel, constantry requiring repair; Which, fourthly, is amply cdnfirmed by the evidence before the jury " that the water - was cons siderably above the cabin _floor long before she (meaning' the said steam-boat - or vessel of the plaintiff). struck," and that it could only have got into her from her general ' leaky state, could she ,(meaning the said steam-boat or vessel of.the plaintiff) as Messrs. Morrison and Wilson, state, have been stronger and firmer than the day she was built" upon the repairs made by them ? or, as Mr. Dailey adds, have been " a staunch and strong vessel iu every respect, Ottel for the voyages she was intended to perforrn?"or, as assured by Messrs.. Shenur and Pile, " that she was perfectly seaworthy and fit, in every respect, when she sailed on Wednesday to s perfurin her intended voy age, or any voYage, within the United kingdom ?"' The certificate of Messrs. W. Laird and Son is in no degree impeachable, but is not favourable to the owner (meaning the said plaintiff), as an inference might be drawn train the necessity they express of an intention to re doce the chimney 3 feet in length, that too much steam was produced for the weak frame of the vessel (meaning the said steam-boat or vessel of the plaintiff) to bear, and the engine certainly appeared to have done its duty until the coals were covered by the water arising from leaks, and it eventually extinguished the fire. Fifthly, It remains to be ascertained -what the repairs were to effect, as certified by Messrs. Morrison and Wilson ; and if they were bona fide made as set forth ; viewing her (meaning the said steam-boat or vessel of the plaintiff) wreck, her floor timbers do not seem to be more than 5 inches square, and, where new ones have replaced those taken out they are not of squared but very inferior branch timber ; some smaller timber seems to have been added, for the purpose of securing the uew bottom, the planks of which are no where to be seen to consist of " two and a half inch eirn," but of American pine, secured only with spike nails, and without treenails or bolts. Although the keel may have been put in when the repairs took place, it has not the appearance of new tim ber, and there are no logs of elm, except in the wake of the engine. The beams, doabtless, consisted of old and new, because the ladies' cabin had bee n raised, and though several of the old beams might have been converted, several new, under such alteration, would be required, and new decks above and below for that cabin, but those couldadd nothing to her (meaning the said steam-boat or vessel of the said plaintiff) security and strength, and there is no proof that the main deck or any of its beams, above or below, were new. Nothing is said of any repairs ' in the stern frame, were there are two, new iron knees, secured with four screw bolts each, and which have mainly kept it together against the violence of the sea. Mr. James Watson's observations relating to, the boat' may be correct enough, but what could a single boat avail, capable of holding 12 or 14 people, in a vessel carrying 120 passengers. With regard to Mr. Atkinson, the com mander, there can be no doubt that he was a brave and skilful officer ; birt to parody Mr. W.'s expression, the fact of his having been proved to have been intoxicated when ,the Rothsay Castle struck (meaning when the ,said steam-boat or vessel of the plaintiff was wrecked), and his some time before, renders any further opinion of him unnecessary. Qathe part of the owners there bas been no statement as to the num ber and efficiency of the crew ;' their names, with full proof of their being eapable of executing the duties required on board such a vessel, should be stated, when the public will be able to judge if the owner (meaning the said plaintiff) was perfectly clear, from censure on that essential point. As to the weather, it was by no means so bati, that had the captain been sober, the officers and crew efficient (meal the officers and crew of the said steam - boat or vessel of the plaintiff and the - vessel stout and tight, the passage would have been efiecte in little more than the usual time requited - against a head wind.—l au], Sir, your obedient servant, ' . . " Beaumaris, Aug. 24, 1831. . " S. M. C. R. N. Mr. 'F. Pou.ocx stated the case, and said the plaintiff's sole object in bringing the action was to vindicate his character from the imputation cast upon it by the unfortunate loss of the Rothsay Castle. The evidence would show the care and pains the plaintiff had taken to have the vessel properly re paired, and that the loss was not attributable to him. The alleged libel was produced, and Mr. Beau proved the handwriting of the defendant. John Wright, Esq., alderman of Liverpool, knew the defendant, Capt. Colquitt. He is a captain in the royal navy, and lives in Che shire. Witness was at Beaumaris on the 17th August, 1831, and as sisted in saving passengers. Did all he could. Went himself to the spot after the accident. Defendant did not accompany him. Witness saw the dead bodies : examined the wreck : 22 were saved, and 92 perished. Witness looked at the ship's bottom. Some of the timbers were branch timbers, such that they could not be squared. Of course that timber was small, thought it too small for a vessel of that de scription. Great part Was under water, some rotten. Did think some was American timber, but now thinks he was mistaken. The timbers appeared to be fitted with spike nails. There was an iron knee in the stern frame. There was an inquest held in a few days—on the even ing of the 18th. George Daney.—Was an owner of steam-boats. Went to Glasgow to buy a vessel for trade between Liverpool and Wexford. The vessel Was afloat, and was ultimately purchased by the plaintiff. Witness was to have had, but in fact had no share in her. The owners would not accept his offer, It was the Rothsay Castle. He had been in her, and knew her sailing between LiVerpool and Wexford. Plaintiff gave her new decks. She was in very good condition. He had seen her at the pier-head, Liverpool. Witness knew Captain Atkinson. Always found him a sober and steady man. On the 17th August, 1831, (the day of the loss,) it blew very fresh N.N.W. a head-wind from Liverpool. Cross-exasninecl.—The vessel was 16 years -old. He did not know whether alms was or was not built for river service. She was length ened after She was built, and was at the time of the loss HO tons bur den. The deck was much worn. There was one engine ; it was a5O hotse power. Its first cost was £2000; it might at the time of the loss be worth £lOOO. Never saw branch timber in Liverpool steam-boats, ' William Wilson.--Repaiied the vessel. When he first saw her he thought she was not sea-worthy, on account of her bottom, which, in his opinion, was broken. Told the plaintiff so. Ile said he had such an excellent account of her that he thought she could not be broken. Witness told plaintiff he thought her bottom was broken ; but plaintiff afterwards said he was confident her bottom was not broken. Repaired her three times ; his account for the first repairs was £250 ; for the second, £l5O. That did not include the wages of the men, did not think her sea-worthy at first, ' In 'witness's opinion after the repairs she was sea-worthy. She was rather larger framed in the midships than at fore and aft. His bill for repairs altogether was £6OO and upwards, for timber work only, exclusive of wages, which would be £2OO, and the iron would be £2O. He had orders to repair her without stint. _ _ Cross-examined.—There is a great strain on steam-vessels in rough weather. There Was a week's interval between the second and third time of the vessel being in witness's dock. She had been leaking again very much. She looked as if she bad been built for river navigation. She was a very old vessel, with small timbers. Her oriprial tonnage was from 55 to 60 tons. Her registered tonnage was 73 tons. She had one engine; it was from 50 to 60 horse-power. Witneis only unsheathed her up to the water-mark. The difference of timbers in a vessel of 55 and 7:3 tons is very trifling. If he had to build a vessel for, sea he would not have put in such timbers. Told plaintiff the timbers looked small ; they were too small. She was not cracked. e•examined.—When witness turned her out the third time she was perfectly sea-worthy. Mr. Morrison, ship-carpenter.—Was superintendent of the patent slip in the last witness's (Wilson's) dock. He received his directions from Wilson. The repairs authorised to be made were done. He had instructions to strip the copper off and to dub the planks. This was in November, 1830. A stringer was put into her inside on each side. The stringer was a plank four inches thick and 40 feet le,. In January she came back into the slip again, When she left the patent slip she was seaworthy. He would not have hesitated to have gone with her then. Cross-examined by the SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Did not you say 'when asked if you would go to sea with her, "No, for she will prove a coffin for somebody Y " Witness, tatter much hesitation, I might have said so, I will not swear that 1 did not say " She is fit for nothing but to be burnt." I do not recollect that I did say so, but I might have said it. I might have said, " I never saw such a box on the slip before. Fisher and Doran were my fellow-workmen. My opinion was, she might prove a coffin for somebody at that time. I positively deny that I ever said " she was no better than a pill-box " in the presence of Alexander Clacker, the engineer. I never said to Fisher " Bear a hand, James, let us get her lapt up, for I am sorry to see the state she is in." When she first left the dock I would not have gone in her to sea. Re-examine;l.--;0n the first time she ww put in the slip I thought 'her bottom was broken, and that she wan Ted more repairs. On the next time I found it was so, and she was repaired. Edward Addy, ship -carpenter in Morrison's employ.—Thoroughly examined her bottom when she came back a second time ; all the fresh timber put in the bottom, and all the old timber left in it, was sound. These timbers. were fastened by 6or 7-inch spike nails. The vessel, at the end of the repairs on the second time of her going into the slip, was perfectly sea-worthy, as far as the repairs went. " It ia now lying on the beach at Beaumaris, and aihneasurea 11 feet 2; umbels bilengtb,. ausl* feet 1 inch in breadth." Cross-examined.—She appeared built for - river purposes. Those are many vessels on the Liverpool river of the same scantlings exactly.. Thomas Quigley..ehip-oarpenter.---She was in tolerable good con dition when she last left the patent slip. Witness should fancy she was sea-worthy. Captain James Spencer.—Was appointed master of the Rothsey Castle in December, 1830 ; superintended the List repair. Witness made no voyage in her before she -was repaired in January, 1831. The vessel went from the graving-dock to the patent slip. • There might have been an interval of two days. When the last repairs were made. she was perfectly sea.worthy, otherwise witness would not hay trusted his life with her ; he went with her on her first voyage, which was to Wexford, from Liverpool. It was very bad weather. The passengers and cargo bore the• sea very well. She. was sea-worthy. and made no water. She lay fire days in Wexford, du-rim; • which time the pump was never worked: No stint was made in the dirte - - tions for the repairs. . Cross-examined.—The timber was sufficiently large t branch tirr,- her is better than square tiinbi.r small timber is better than largo . timber. . . _ _ John Pile, master mariner, Was commander of the vorel on Spen cer's leaving, in February, 1831. Went with her ro Vc,.xford. The vessel behaved very well. She came back in hours. had a very heavy gale, Only•maic that one voyage with her. She was sea-worthy. Saw her on the day of the accident, I•ot , .iyen four and five o'clock in the afternoon', oil the Ormeeheed. it was blowing hard, and a heavy sea. • • - • Edward Gore Taylor.—;!Was,,•sapercargo bctwmn Liverpool and Wexford, in January, February, and March, 1831. In all the trips the ship_ behaved as well as a vessel could do. 'Witness was on boani the St. David on the night of the aoeident. Saw the i•cs.3ol to the tea ward near the Oirneshead. The weather was very lnd and the sea very heavy, It was rough weather. Ormeshead is a Amager:tits place. Saw her after the l a st r e pair s ; w h en t u rned out she was in • fit state. Captain Atkinson was drowned ; he was a sober; steady. Skilful, active man. David English, one of the Seamen from May to the Bth of July, 1831; —The vessel then went from Liverpool to Dundalk a nd. Beaumaris. She behaved wiell in bad weather; did as well or better than other steam-vessels on the same station. On the day she was IA it was very bad weather and rained. • To start from Liverpool at ten in the morning, and get off the Ortheshead at eleven in evening, is a lair passage. Hugh Jones, mariner.—She was sheathed in the gravi:v4-Jock; she Made water after that, upon which she was put into the slip and tho roughly repaired, and was seaworthy. He went with her two voy4;e4 to Wexford ‘, no vessel could have behaved bettor, though there were heavy gales and high sea. Witness knew the Spit sand and the Dutel4.. man's bank. It is a Wry narrow passage. The stronst vessel ever 'built could not bave got off the bank on the night of the accident. Robert Griffiths, sblp.carpc. , nter.—Saw her bottom after she Was taken to Beaumaris, and then did not see any braneh timber. Bryan Cochrane, ship-carpenter, foreman to M'Ardle and Daney. —Alterations in the vessel were made in August, 1841. •-A.deuble side. ccimmonly called a sponsor, was added ; and a lso new boilers. She was then perfectly seaworthy. That was a week before the accident. Cross , examined.—Never examined her iniernally. A sponsor is 'a false side, added to the original side. • An engineer said there was a new hailer, Vitt It precluded too much steam for the vessel. _ _ _ John Jones, seaman, sailed on board the Rothsay'eastle in October, 1830 ; went two trips to Carnarion. She performed the voyages we?, according to her situation. She was rather leaky.. She was then kill up to be put *under repair. He afterwards joined )w in April, 183/. She was then On the ffeaumaris station. He stayed in her two month••. She made three trips a week ; never missed ; required no repair; di:i not leak; was thoroughly seaworthy. No danger in going in her. Had indifferent weather part of the time., She beh ave d as srII as any steamer witness was ever on board of. Cross-examined.—On the voyage to Catnarvon the parnpi wc4 - .4 constantly. going. She- was v'ery leaky. She vas not saaworthr. Jennings was captain then.__ _ _ LOrd LYNDMIRST.—She leaked on the first voyage from Liver. pool to Carnarron. The plaintiff lived at that time in Liverpool William Jones, Liverpool branch pilot.—l went on lae.voy.age when the vessel was lost, as a passenger. Got on board at Liverpool. She started five minutes before eleven. It was slack tide, rather drainin in. It was a very heavy Sea. Captain Atkinson asked him whethr it was best to go over Chester-bar, mi to go outside the light-ship. He advised the latter. - She made a very fair progress considering the heavy sea. The wind was north-west by north. Ile was on deck while off the Great Ormeshead, but not there long ; it ;vas very coarse -weather, blowing strong near ten o'clock, very sOally, sometimes light.. There was a moon when the clouds were driven off. She wal going on very well. She made no water at that titer. The pumps were not going. He was below when she struck. Hp was continually up and down before. She struck on the Dutchman's-bank. He was then clown. •It was about twelve. He came•on deck. He saw Cap tAin Atk o inson.alew minutes after. He spoke to him several times he was sober.. and doing .his duty ; he was rather in contusion ; he gave orders to reverse the paddles, up jib and down jib, several times. We were on the ground, and could not get off; there was a very heavy sea. She was thumping heavy. The sea broke over h er very muc h . Many.were washed overboard. He was on the gnarter-deck. tli, held by the wreck of the quarter-dock for about live or six hours, • when the life-boat took hug up. She held together for two hours. If she had not been strong, she would never hard held together half' so long as she did. No sea-room where she struck. Had she bad. sea-room she would have lived out the storm. • , Cross-examined.—He had seen the plaintiff often since. Have yoia not said that she was a very old vessel I—l. said she was ins aged yes-. sel. I.swear I never said she was very cranky.. (A deposition signed, by witness was handed up to him.) I said she was rather tender. At half-past seven some passengers asked the captain to put baCk, He refused. There was no clanger. at the time. It Ave.s before we came to the East Ormeshead. Between the two Ormesheads several people asked the captain to put back, because th e y were s i c k. I asked Cap.. taro Atkinson, after the striking, to Rut out a light. Ile was then in confusion. There was no signal by tiring a gun or putting up a We were one mile and quarter from the land.' Th e jib was hoisted. The mate said, "What's that to you ?" about,, , the boat, She struck a number of times before the .captain gave orders to reverse the paddles. I cannot say whetber she was to the leeward of her right course before she struck, 'but when struck she was. I can't say whether the steam was up. If the steam had been properly up, and, she.had been properly steered, it is more than I can tell, in that state• of the wind, if she could have got to that point. She kept her course when she was off the first Ormshead. I was asleep when she was off' Puffin bland. Evan Evans.—Was seaman on board the vessel at the time of her loss. On that day the wind and tide were against her ; she made good way considering the weather; her crew consisted of the captain, the-- mate, two sailors, two boys, and a carpenter, besides a steward, under steward, and cook, and alivyrpool pilot. There were plenty of hands. There were also three musicians on hoard, always ready to assist, and .two firemen and au engineer. Between Ormeshead and Puffin Islaud she shipped several seas, but was not in any way leaky. I was awake when she struck, on deck, - l looked down into the engine-room. Thora was no water of any consequence at all. A quarter of an hour after wards I went to the forecastle. There was no water there. I left my watch there, and lost it. After the striking, the wind kept at the same rate. The sea was very rough, and ran over us mountains high, Tie ' captain was attendino. the vessel, and working her a c cor d ing t o h er manceuvres. Ile did not appear to me tabe drunk. I did not leave her until the following morning, when we were taken from the wreck by a pilot-boat. Had she been a weak vessel she would not have stood there half the time. Cross-examined.—l can't tell whether she leaked between The Ormeshead and Pullin Island. I never said she leaked so much be tween Ormeshead and Puffin Islandthat the steam quite failed. I not said " I think the captain and mate were not sober." A paper was handed up to witness, who said, after a long hesitation, teat is my handwriting. It was put in and read, and was the examination upon oath of the witness, taken on the IBth of August, IS3I, in which he stated " she leaked so much between Ormeshead and Pullin Island, that the swam quite failed." He also said, "I do not think the captain nor mate wer solver. " Lord LYN talusr.—The witness has sworn directly the reverse, of his former deposition. The steam failing accounts for that. which is not otherwise accounted for, viz, the vessel running to the leeward of her course on the bank. Mr. 1'01.1.0m-11e single object of the plaintiff is to vindi cate himself from anv unjust imputation. According to the evidence, he directed' the vessel to be repaired without limitac tion, Lord LYNDIIURST.—It is one thing whether the vessel - was. seaworthy, and another thing whether she was unseaworthy:to the knowledge of the plaintiff. There is nothing to show that he knew she was unseaworthy at the time of the accident. If the plaintiff had known the course of the evidence he probably would not have gone on with the action. At the last repairs he appears to have acted as a prudent man, and gave orders for a repair without stint. I cannot approve entirely what took place on the former voyages to Carnarvon. Extreme care and caution are requisite in individuals who undertake to carry the public in, steam-vessels. Mr. F. PoLLocx.—l do not think, after the last witness's evidence, that it would be giving the cause a fair chance So, take it now. I submit to be called. The plaintiff was accordingly nousuited. The court was crowded withvitnesses. We understand there were 40 for the defendant, had it been_ necessary to have gone into his case. TRIBUTE OF RESPECT TO A CLEIWYMAN,—The ladies of Ashton-under-Lyne have presented to the Rev, John Ilandforth, curate of the parish church, a very handsome silk robe and cas sock, together with a purse containing tea sovereigns, the sur plus of the subscription for purchasing the same, as a testimon♦ of their great respect for his personal piety and ministerial labours. SINGULAR CHANGE OF, FORTUNE.--A female lunatic, in tha Manchester Workhouse, eighty-one years of age, has recently become entitled to a fortune of £15,000, in consequence of tho death of a brother in Liverpool. The woman, whose name is. Worsley, has been in the Workhouse upwards of seven years, and during that time the overseers have made repeated appli cations to her relatives, many of • whom are in good circum stances, to remove her from that place, or to contribute towards her support; but none of them would undertake the charge of the poor old creature. and there was every prob a bili t y o f h er dying as she h a d lived, a neglected pauper. Since they have discovered her accession of wealth, however, a struggle has taken place amongt these relations as to which shall have the, honour of becoming her guardian, and urgent applications have been made to the overseers to obtain her liberation from the house. The parish officers have consequently taken the advice of the magistrates on the subject and we understand that in conformity therewith. they have determined to keep the old wo— man in her present situation, paying every attention to her pp.- sonal comforts, until they are otherwise directed by an;oraer from the l o ord Chancellor.--Manchester Courier.