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DIPERIAT, PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. nON'tIAY, MAY 19. - THE second reading of the Additional Force Re peal Bill was, on the Motidn of Earl SrENcEn, de ferred till to-morrow, mid , . the Lords _ordered :to be • summOned: Mr. FULLER, and several Other Members of 'the House of Commons, brought. pp two Private ; which were read. a first time. The Mutiny Bill, 'the Irish Treasury Bills' Bill, and tile Irish . LOan-Bill, were read a third time and pAssed, and a e Message sent to the House of Com mons. to acquaint than therewith. . • •.The Scotch Judges' Salary Bill passed through a Committee, and was reported:'. r• The Order of ,1118 Day on the Bill for the Disco very of Truth was discharged, on the Motion <of Earl, STANHOPE, and renewed for griday •se'nnight. Earl STAN HOPI: rose to address the House, rtala tive to the printing of some Accounts produced in levidence on the Trial of Lord VisCOunt Melville, Which, he said; ought to be printed, and the print- , ing of which, would not interfere with that, of the cvidence. already. ordered. His Lordship was pro ceeding to aro - ne the. stibje6t; when strangers were ordered to N,vi7thdriivr, and continued for sortie time ,exiiuded. . `."' • - No public business was done aft("rJour re-admis sion, and theilious6 adjourned till to-morrow (this day) 7 HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, MAY 19. Mr. IlciTcHiNsoN, from the Bank, presented an Account of all Notes of Bank of Efikland, in cluding Bank Post Bills, in circulation from April 5, 1805, to April 5, •1806; distinguishing each quarter, On the Motion of Sir JOHN NEWPORT, the Com rhittee, on the Irish' Stamp Duty Bill .Was postponed. 'to Friday, and the Committee on the Irish Customs, Bill to Wednesday next. = > On the Motion of Sir J. NEWPORT, ,the Report on the Irish Butter Bill was taken into farther con sideration, and the Bill was ordered to be engrossed. ' Mr. FRANCIS then rose, in .contemplation of the Debate likely to,come on to-morrow, on the Nabob of Arcot'S. Creditors' Bill, .io recomMend to the attentio;i of - Gentlemen the ccrespondence of a dr. GiVail,'coptained in -the 2d . olume of Carnatic Paperi; as likely -to' give. some information pn the -fiL4ea. On the Motion of Mr. VANSITTART, the Excise- 112gulatiod Bill, and the Post-Office "Regula tion Bill, were read a secomd time, and ordered , to a Committee of the whole House on Friday se'nnight. Mr. VANSITTART moved, that there be laid be-, for the Hous6 an Account of the. Quantity of Malt i,a with Duty: in England for .the last ~ two year:;,' ending in. 1806 ; and a similar Account for. S;:otland: also, an Account of the Quantity. of Strong Beer bre-:yed in England from. 1799 to 1805, and: the same for Scotland : also; an Accountfithe.. Now .her of Barrels 'of Strong Beer and Tabl Beer brew t!,: 4 , with the Distria of. the Excise- ice for the Ltst ten years.. The. Accounts - were t len ordered, and iinmediately brdught up . 3r Mr. Vansittart; and 'laid on the I';.ihie. - , . • , t.7ir .J. lqn•; , , , rolvr- postponed his Motion respecting t:le I)ublin Paving Bill. . . ivi i -. Hus g Issozz-gaVe' notice, that lie wonld Move I:: -ol - .:rro.,‘ , fora Minute id the Boird of Treasury : re bi.: _'..).:11Z . , the Petition Of . rile,isrs. Chalmers and Cowie. A 7% r cArs; N T CM) IZ'S E . MI. j.:' • 1.-Th r:1 'EMPLE stated, that 04;s Dill fir Regulating t';-• of our V.Te.t -India Colonies 'with Lein ' sent down from' the Lords in .bell it shape a-;, to prevent its being - entertained by tie Moose. .11e ahoula, therefore; now 'propo3e; that it 6e read a first ti!ne, pyQ/in - rnc, with the de sign of bringing in another L::ll,in its room, not liable . to the s'inie übje6,tion's.. the all t: - ,en read a first tune,. and, on the 'Motion of Loi - :!: TENT'LL', Ordered to be read a se cond time on ti:is day. three rnonthi. Lord 'rEmpl.,r then moved for leave to bring' n a JIM for simi ar pnrposes, and also' that his Motion be referred to ,t consideratton of" 3 Committee of the Whole House Mr. ROSE thCn'said, that•he considered the pro •posed Bi•Vras of the highest .in with regard to it eats on the Corriener6e. and navigation of the -Cou.ntry. He loolced upon it , as neither more Liar less than a - repeal of the Navigation A. It was a matter . highly interesting to tile mercantile interest; Ind .he trusted sufficient time would be allowed them to conider i:.; and oppose it, if they should think - proper. He implored.. Ministers not to adopt such a measure without proper inquiry. Lord TEMPLE replied, that be' bad no obje6tion to any delay beiqg !flowed ,that might seem reason ahle ; arid afrer a 7 few words from Lord a' PETTY, the Motion for leave to bring in a new . Bill on :the subjea vas orcleet.itabe referred to a Committee of the a liolc Haase. _ rviessn,e from the. Lords acfruninted the House, that the Lords had agreed to the Mutiny Continua tion Bill, the Irish Treasury Bilis' Bill, and the Irish Loan Bill, Without any• Amendment. I;RtTISki NIInEUM ' Mr. BANKES said, that in - the two last Sessions of Parliament tha House had exercised' a 1 - try be coming liberality towards this . National In►;stitution. In consequence of this, considerable additions had be:en ►nade to the buildings of the Museum, and to the Antiquities . deposited t here. Ito therefore moved, that a Committee be appointed to examine the state of the Buildings erected for the reception of Egyptian and other Antiquities,' and to repOrt to . the House on the saine.—Agrced to. 'r Icl'o,l,A . FREE PORT BILL - On the Motion of Lord l'EmpLE; the Report , on the Tortola - Free Port Bill was then taken into far-_ t her'ronsicteration Lurd TEMPLE observed., that ele ditlicultyat fending this Eill lay in ;ascertaining 'the' precise quantity of Sugar which should be. allciwed to. be iniport i ed from Tortola to this. Country. He co' n.,icici - ed the objeLti;ms Of the Right Hon Gentle,- oppoSite to „him' (Airr: dose) op this head, and eu;lelvoureckoreinove them by ses'cral aniend lo._';4l:;, which he should propclie. He then moved, bill be noA , re-connnitied. „ • tb&n rsolved itsdfinto a Committee, Mr. 'ROSE expressed his belief that the i l .l was utterly inconsistent with every principle of good lio licy,.'and begged - to know.the Noble T - ..ord' reason for pressingit upon:the Horse.' Lord TuirLE • repeated what he had before stat ed,' that the'..design of. the Bill was to-induce the : West India Merc - hant to' bring that prOperty to .a British Island, which had hitherto centered in the Danish Island, of St. Thomas, and Which had' been a source of great wealth to that Colony. ' -Mr. ROSE contended, that the Noble Lord had no proper idea of the tendency of the Bill. - The Island of St. Tho Mas was completely a Neutral Island, :and therefore -became a general 'depot for West 'lndia produce,' but this could, never be the 'situation of 'Tortola:. , The present Bill he thought would-introduce an incalculable quantity of foreign Sugar into this Countiy. Mr. VANSITTART supported the Bill ; and Mr. 'PnitcivAL said a few words in oppositiOtt to it. Lord TEMPLE observed, that the quantity of Sugar to be permitted:to be imported.Was:not equal to the produce of Tortola and the Virgin Islands _by More than 100 hogsheads; no danger, therefore, could arise of importing foreign Sugar into this Country. • The Amendments -were, then read'and agreed to and the Report was ordered to be received to-mor row. • . IRISFI REVENUE. Sir JOHN NEWPO rose, - : in pursuance of the notice he had given, to move fOr leave to bring in a Bill fOr establishing better Regulations in the collec tion of die Customs, Excise, and Taxes in Ireland., He, aid, that one of the objecis of the measure which he was - now about to propose to the House was, tt) enlarge the number of Commi,sSiOners in Ireland from 12 to 14, The necessity of this increase in the . numbe'r would be obvious to the House; if they would compare the Revenue in 1704, when the Att ap pointing twelve Commissioners passed, with the Re venue at, present : the Revenue at that 'time, includ ing Customs and ,Excise, did not exceed 300,0001. and now it was 3,500,0001. Another object which he had.in. view was, that the business should in fu ture be transacted by distina Boards, as it was in' this Country, and for this purpOse the proposed Augmentation would be necessary. He also wished to propose that the trial of Revenue Causes in the Pistriel of Dublin should be . before Chief Commis, sioners. only. He' Concluded with moving for leave to bring in a Bill for the above purposes./ • • Mr. FOSTER,said, he should'give his. most Cor dial support to the Bill' Which the Right Honourable Baronet had moved for Nvas th same in sub stane•,e as. one which he (Mr. Foster) had brought in last*ssion,,Which pasSed the House of Commons .but was lost in another place.—Leave was granted. ADDITIONAL FORCE-BILL Sir JOHN .Arktl/PORT'rOse to move for leaYe to bring'in,a BiW•tb repeal 'the Irish Additional Force Ata .; the -44th Geo. Jli. c.' 3. the Aft in question, being entered as read, Sir. John Newport stated, that Pa'rliament having repealed the Additional. Force A6l for Euglatid and Scotland, it beCame less cessary for him Jo- occupy touch of their time in prOposing, the repeal of the Aia in Ireland. .11,0 could however. assert, without the hazard of 'con= tradi6tion, , that all the objeeition - ; which applied to the A& in this Country which had been' repealed,' applied with additional ,to the Irish At. It Was in a great man): , ,i,nstineo. : impossible to 'have recourse to parochial aid to' carry the Ad into erlea,, because :there were Parishes in Ireland in which them: XS' Cre (M - licri what evOr ; and ther.efOre the mode men hy Aarge bounties, wilich the ACt was in•tencied t'' i irevent, 'was of necessity. resorted - to. ,Persons contracted to raise; men for the Parishes at so much a head. 'the quota fdr the County of Meath, tin- instance. was `principally raised in the liberty of Dublin 'by a per son who contraeled for that purpose, and who had an interest in inducing .the men to desert as soon as .possible, that he Might have an . opportunity of reLinlisting them: Considerable difficulties had also 'arisen with respea to the penalties, on account of thespecification of the Baronies. arid Parishes for which the. men were raised:; besides which, it was -not clearly stated in the A& into whose hands the penalties. were to be paid. The 'Receiver-General was mentioned in one part of the A&, but the Ile , cessary forms were not prescribed, nor was his name inserted,in another part of the Act, 'as it ought to.have.been done if the penalties were tb be paid .te'him. These were the general objeaions to the. Aft ; besides which he could state positively, that not a man had.been raised under it'who would not 'have been raised by the ordinary mode of recruiting.. The law had. been in every instance trausgressect, and bounties as high as',4ol, had been, given. -He therefore moved for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the said Ad.=-Leave was granted. . COMMITTEE OF WAYS AND MEANS.: Lord HEARY PETTY moved the Order of the Day for the House to resolved into a Comn*tee of Ways and Means. The Noble, Lord thenrose, for the purpose of hr,inging tbrward the tax he meant to propose in lieu -of the duty whirl, had been abandon ed on 24.-iron„ , ,He said it would be in the recol:-':, leaion tbe House,. that' not many -days since he had proposed to afer'the further proceedings in the Committee of Ways and 'Means, for tliepiirpose of de vising soMe tax less objectionable to the House, and to • the great body of theCoun try, than that upon Pig-iron, which he had been ,induced, in ceMpliance with-the prevailing sentiment, to decline. 'Hennw, therefore, rose, to propose, in lieu of that tax, a substitute,which he hoped would prove more acceptable. 'Heconsider-. ed it properly as a stibslitute, beeauSe it would fall principally upon one article, and one to which he thought the least objeaion was likely to arise,• in providing for the pressing eXigencies of the Country. Mitwithstanding the popular error, that the luxuries of the wealthy were the fittest: objets of 'taxation, under such 'exigency, yet ,it Was a táa incontrovert ible,' that the produce of taxes, *Open, such luxuries," would be so very small, as to prove rather harrassing. thanducrative, and therefore 'it 'became hiS duty to look to one more connee:led•with general constnp-, tion, and, of course, more likely to he .*:iciest. - On giving an attentive consideration to tho,,e objeEis,', which prorniEed to, be prodtiftiv,e, and were likely to fall 'the lightest Upon ihose who were to be inimedi; ately-übjeel ,to the• impost, he considered Brewing as' one of the fairest that presented t Lent ,seves ter adoption. ; he Privatel3rewer, standing that he paid the Duty. on Malt, had still, considerable advaJtag,e over the Publicl3rewer, and all,the consumers of the liquor he produced. , ylte, Brewing itvas,Earried on to such an extent, and . produced so great -a saving to the individuals who adopted it, for-the - supply of their larnilies, it greatly' leSsened the consumption of other be verage,' the Duties on which • would add consi derably to the .Public Revenue; lie therefOre.con ceivecP the Country, under its present circum stances, had a right .to look to the Private BreWer, as a fair , subject of tpation, and to bear his part in the publib burthens . : but at the same trme the Tax he proposed to lay would be so Moderate as still to leave the object of it in possesSion of consi— derable advantages, over the PubließreWer. With re gard to the produce to be computed froni this Tax, it Was difficult to obtain any precise data upon which to calculate with exaEtness: but taking the,best he-conid find, namely, the hole quantity of Maltcharged with the Malt Duties, and deducting from that the quantity which appeared frOm an average of returns to be Con sumed by the common Brewer and Distiller, the re:. rnainder would litlerd a tolerable. criterion of what the private brewer; consumed.' The whole quantity of Malt then charged with the ditties upon 'an avt-rage of the last few years, , was about three millions of quarters annually, -of whieh it appeared that the public-brewers did not consume more than two mil lions : of the remaining million it vas. extremely difficult to -ascertain what proportion was consumed by the .distilleries: It appeared, however, from in quiries made during the last scat-City, that the average . consumption of the distillers was about 250,000quar 'ters so that-the remaining 75.0,000 (plat ~ers appear ed to be the consumption of the private brewer, which, rated in the scale he was about to propose, would produce about 500,0°01. 'a sum' adequate to that at which he had estimated the tax. upon Pig- Iron. The scale of inxation was estimated from the most reasonable calculation upon the probable con sumption of each family, and their respeaive rank and abilities in lite ; but, undoubtedly, as it was the farthest wish from • his mind to expose the Private Brewer to any obtrusion of the Exeise Offi cer into his family, he would shape the tax in such a way as to enable every man, by paying a fair and reasonable commutation, toavoid• a necessity so Ob noxious. The tax would be assessed upon a Scale . of:,proportiOn with the other assessed taxes--:upon the higher orders, according to: the number . of car rages and servants,, and upon tlie lower in propor tion to their rank in life, and the number of indivi- • duals, who' composed their t.unilies, upon the4ol - scale, viz. • Every Family paying the Duty on a hour-wheeled s. d. Carriage, and one Male Servant, to pay a com mutation fur every - iviale in Stith Family , - r ► q For every Female - - - cto 6 Families, n:4 paying for.a Four-wheeltd , Carriage, but assessed for . one Male Servant, to. pay ftir each pixie- - ••- - - - o ;lc 0 Every Peinale - - -. o I 6 Families not assessed for a Male Servant, but pay ing tne for'every Male Every FeMale - o o S o Per.sns only p'aying the low . est.order of Assessed Taxes, and charged with the Window Tax, Mules o 5 • Females • - - • - - o 2 6 .A.,11 children under ten years Old excepted, and also all the lower orders ,of the labouring poor, and all personspaing 'Asessed Taxes, , and who may chooSe to brew tbr themselveS;.to be exempt ; for no person but the Priyate Brewer would have any part of the charge to bear. The number of, pesons liable to this Tax, he caieulatel upon ,the following scale:. F S. - , cas i lciLs - • Third Class - • - • Fourth Class - - - • • and the, ; whole produce he estimated to produce a net revenue of 500,0001. Hating thus briefly stated the Tax he-,had to propose, he begged leaVe to observe, thit, as nothing was Morerepugnanc to his wish than that it should become necessary to collea theTaX in the way of Excise, he hoped that all persons who were averse to the Exciseman's visits would avail theinselves.of the modification he .proposed, arid by delivering in their Lists, according to. the foregoing scale, enable the Colleaor tó ascertain their repeclive proportions without farther trouble to theraselyes.— Hebegged leave to repeat that, notwithstanding what might be considered a fair impost upon the Private Brewer, he would still hare many advantages over the public one ; and possess a degree of comfort in the means of .supplying his family witiva wholesome and cheering bever - age7consitieribly cheaper than. he could purchase of tfie public Brewer or Retailer.— The Noble Lorcl - felt still, more 16Ppy . that the class of labouring poor would be altogether exempt from the Tax ; aTia concluided by moving, That there be laid upon every barrel of ale or strong beer • brewed by private families, of the N:.lue of uGs. an Excise Day of los. to be paid by the person so brewing, extept such persons as should pay a commutation licence-duty upon the scale before mentioned. This produced a discussion of considerable length. Mr. ROSE,thought the Tax highly objeolionable, and said it was one, like that on Pig Iron, which his late Right Hon. Friend had alsO in contemplation, but abandoned upon the fullest codsideration i because lie knew there was an abundance of preferable sources still untouched. • Sir ROBERT BUXTON gave it his-decided, op-. . • pgsition, as founding an 'obnoxious systqm 43l excise unpo,ts upon private families, - anti- as leading, - tbr7 aught he knew, to a future licehe-tax On baking, roas.ing, and boiling. Sir Wm. GEAISY also opposed the Tax. Mr. PATT IS 0 N defended'it as a Tax' not new, but adopted under Lord North, and as extremely fair ; but thought that a still fairer mo would be., to colle& the whole of the-Malt . Liquor. Tax through out the kingdom on malt' only for be was con vinced that a vast quantity of strong malt liquor evaded its proper portion of duty, by being passed •as of a weaker . denomination. He thought titat Country G.,.ntlenaen who lived in cheap parts of the kingdon - 1, and enjoyed all the necessaries of life at the first band, could infinitely better afford to pay a Tax in this way on the malt liquor - consumed . in their families, and brewed by their oWn servants, than the inhabitants of cities and manufa&uring towns, , who had no such 'advantages, and were obliged to pay, not only the highest _Tax, but all the profits of the Brewer and Retailer. Lord HENRY PETTY defended the Tax ; and, ju answer to the observation of Sir Apbert Buxton, ohscrwd, that the Hon. B. was' in.an error, in supposing - the . principle of charging a licence to pri 7 vat in commutation ibr excise duties, on ar:icl; by diem for their private con sumption, was at all new in this Country ; .on the contrary, it Was one long recognized by that House. it had btu adopted in a way similar ;o this under Lard North's - Administzttion f t s (lc) 1) t n the Reign of Geo:ge upon tip.: private Manufac-. 7 ture of candies; .and what, in , faa, were, all , the Assessed Taxes on Carriages, Servants, 'Windows, and Property, but Taxes. Or a similar nature? Mr. HUSKISSOIV thought the Noble Lord bad calcnlat?d the produtt of the Tax greatly beyond its reality; for, even *admitting his own,scale of the consumption of 01 4 i1 . t b y. 13veweries and bistil- Ines to 56..correet, of remaining 750,000 quarters a very great proportion niust be con sumed- by.poor families, whom it was the avowed purpose of. the Noble Lord to exemPt froth the Tax' altogether. . ItosE, made some farther obje&ions to the Tax, as baying been before abandoned, , ' . , Dr. LAIViiENC.4 reprobated the disposition ma nifesteebY the Right "Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Rose) ; and those Who supported hula, for the con,. dud -thcy uniformly manitested towards the Noble Lo`rd , and hiS Colleagues, to whom they boasted cf having reigned " a Bed of Roses ;" but to whom, in thd,.they had. left, ,nothing , but emliarrasssment and almost uusurtnountable clittiduity. Every measure which 'the, present Ministers proposed for extricating the Countryfiom its difficulties met with nothing 'bat captious "objections, and vexatious op position, from their predecessors. • Mr. GILES thought the Tax, in effe&, would.be, a Tax on Fethale Servants ; but since 4, Tax on the home-made beverage of private families was to ,be laid," he thought the inhabitants of the' Cyder Cou nties, who subStituted tbdt beverage almost totally to the exclusion of malt liquor, shouid be subje - aed to a licence also,: • Mr. MAYNING was decidedly against the Tax and raid s he would forego the advantages of Privaie bre.very altogether, .sooner th an su b m i t to • 'the obnoxious intrusions of an Excise Officer in hj,rl family. • • • • 'Sir - CHARLES POLE objeaed to the Tc - Ax on the Cyder Counties ; and also to that sort of cri terion of Gentlemen's circumst ances t h at vas to be drawn from their :keeping a carriage, which, to many men of small incomes, was frequently more a matter of mere convenience than of luxury. He suggested, as a better succedaneuny of revenue. than the beverage of poor families, the race of strapping six-foot high men-milliners who crowd the shops of the 'town. Lord lIENRY PETTY,' in answer to Mr. Man ning, repeated.his own decided wish to prevent the obtrusion of gaelsemen. He highly aliploved the suggestion of .Mr. Giles,upon subje&ing the cyder consumers to the licence ; and he hOped the Hon. 1 Baronet Who spok e last would . feel some c.onsola7- tion iii refleaing, iliat those, strapping men-mil liners, who appeai-ed so-obnoxious to him, 11'ere as much" sub jeet to the Mlx as any other persons.. MT 1 YRIVIIIT - 7 7()YE,S 1 iliought the Tax . . . would, to all intents and , purposes, be a Tax on Fe male Servants, to whit') he was ,decidedly averse.: better, infinitely, t o tax those- „worthless animals called men-millineit., to whom the Hon. Baronet had so properly alluded. • . Mr. . SHERMAN had not the slightest objee, tion to•the Mix proposed by the Npble Lord so..thr as it affe6tea himself, and should cheerfully submit to it : 64 be would not go quite so far Orr the be .half of his Constituents at Stafford, many of • whom : were poor, but honest industrious men, who were in - the habit of -brewing,a little ale for their own fa- . mines : they certainly brewed a very good sort ; and be must do them the justice to say, that, they' did ample justice to their own brewing. He there fore could have wished the Noble Lord had com menced his scale of this Tax a little higher in so-- defy. And as toiae succedaneum proposed by the Hon. Baronet (Sir C. PolO, of a Tax on Men-milli ners; he would not only agree to a Tai upon them, but upon the whole race of those effiminate beings, in the shape of men, who assume the employments of women, and preclude so many thousands of de serving females from an honest livelihood. . The PtCSOIIIOOIIS were then agreed to withoUt division, and the Report was, ordered to be brought up on Wednesday. LORD NELSON's GRANT. • Mr. ALEXANDER brought, up the Report of the Committee on this Bill, and 'the Resolutions were agreed to rent. con. PROPERTY TAX BILL. - Lord H. PETTY' moved the third reading of the Amendments in this BiA.. Mr. WiLBERFoacs suggested, that the wording in many respeas was incorrect. It was .stated in the openino - , that persons having life estates under 501, shot3hr be totally exempt—but he saw no such exemption in the 2W. • Aft : . VANSITTART thought the Clause sufficiently exprussive. . . The SPEAKER informed the Hon. Gentleman, -that- t lie Amenthiients must be first disposed-of, and then it would be open to any Gentleman to intro duce any additional Amendment or Clamp. ' _ . On the Amendment about exemptions to labour-- ing men or artisans under certain circumstances, Mr. SPENCER STAisMOPE considered, that this Clause wv.ild be a mere mockery on the persons proposed to be relieved. Jr would be something like the allowance c•I Teplits granted last year, which Was only.twoshillingsin an hundr e d p oun d s: ,he objeeted . to requiring Certificates from all the Masters as proof. Some farther conversation took place upon the Amendment in this Clause, which was finally agreed to. - Mr. ELLISON objeaed to the Clause for requiring .Masters to give returns of those in their employ who• did not reside in their house : he stated the. number of agents that many. persons employ of 'whom they have, no knowledge, and for whom they ought not to he responsible. Mr. VANSITTART replied, that the Honourable Member gave too large a signification - to the word employ. The persons that this Clause would bring under the Tax were Bankers' Clerks, and pet - Sons of that description, who would otherwise evade the payment of the Tax. - The Amendments were th,en read and passed. Several new clauses were then brought up. Mr. VANSITTART brought up a Clause for mak;. 'ing some deduEtion on that part of the property of 'persons under isol.•per ann. that is Jaid out in pre miums for insuring their lives. for the benefit of their ' Mr. WlLBELFoßer...thought that persons of such sm:111 _income could #eldom give any thing for hi sul.a3ce., •