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The royal assent was given to•da), by commission, i t° B ,;he Consolidat.d Fund Bill the Irish Loan "'AWOL) Bill, the Labouring B;or (Ireland) Bill, the Protestant Dissenters and General Lite and Fire iuserance Company's Bill. The Lord s C omm i ss i oners were t h e L or d Chancellor, %e Zsrl of Minto, and Lord Campbell. The Lord CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack u few minutes aftel. Five o'clock. THE LAW OF SETTLEMENT. Lord PORTMAN presented a petition from the touutd,_ e f guardians of Bradford, praying their Lordships ": Into consideration the law of settlement, in order „Ipeal it and establish a national rate. tt : he Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from p r -r ungton complaining of the Poor Removal Bill, and h . ,:_Yulg their Lordships to take into pnsideration the 7 11 s of establishing a system of union , rating. 1 1 C 0 BLE LORD, whose name we could not learn, pre a petiti o n from Letford against the law of settle le- , EDUCATION. e 0 ,1411 BROUGHAM presented a petition from the oregation of Independents in Norfolk, complaining % Jae Government interference with religion-and on by milking, grants. -re4DINBURGII AND ABERDEEN MAIL. wir k r ti CAMPBELL rose to present a petition , to he begged leave to call the attention of his Noble red.(the Marquis of atnricarde). It was a petition Ourrplatning of a contemplated grievance in the alteration si t he mail from Edinburgh to Aberdeen, and was ii lo, led by many of the noblemen, gentlemen, and other t i o aential inhabitants of the county of Fife. The peti ole stated that for the last ten years the mail had run t r t° 2,gh Fifeshire, by way of Cupar and Perth, to the as., advantage of the inhabitants of the county; but it 140 4 e, proposed to alter the route, so as to forward the b et ; te Perth by way of Queensberry. He did not k i te 'a‘'e that any public advantage would result from this 4 3 r ation, while it would lead to the inconvenience and 4 04 111 4leintment of a most influential and respectable Y of men. LANDLORD AND TENANT. I l4 e NOBLE LORD also presented a petition from eghsh ane , i n I re l an d for a law to improve the re -41 between landlord and tenant. THE WELLINGTON STATUE. 4: 44 Marquis of LONDONDERRY wished to call 4 e I ttention of the House to something that had fallen t the Chief Commissioner of Woods and Forests g„,.. ano ther place, which he must say displayed iT id erahle ignorance of the m itter in question. wil (s statement had reference to the Wellington statue, ..tit it was stated was to be removed, and placed in ;Tther site. The attention of the committee had been e d to the matter, and at a meeting of the sub-com tee that day, he had been requested to state to of Rouse thal , they had not come to the decision t ki . 141461 4),' the statue in another place, but had only to take it down. To prevent any f i 7 o %alte h e was requeste d t o rea d the following letter the% the c h a i rman o f I t h e su b- com mitter, embodying lets c o mmittee's views. (The Noble Marquis read the t h which stated that the Committee would only be at e e xpense o f taking the statue down, but would not be sit p o ssib l e for its being placed in any ot her si t u ation.) They did not think that any other of tl e Ztion would suit t unless it were f tl 'a same e l e v a tion andmass ' as the present arch, and Nu n . . they were of opinion that no better or more tin glble site than the present one could be found. The I, o l)e „ u n se of a sufficiently el• vated pedestal for the statue to thy "'" be such as the sub- con mi te) were not prepared -- ". 4 upon themselves, and wale the Government to t o Y the expense, it would in all probability lead a contentious discussion about taking the public Iti ll eY to which they would not be a party. c ommit eet were of opinion that the duties of the the i en rernittee were terminated by the taking do w n o f ratue ; they believed that then the statue would be be le ft by Government, and that the subscribers would to make the best terms with them that they could. That'4 th 7 was the statement he was requested to make to ',tt! Lorthhtps' House. t ' e be Mar qu i s o f LANSDOWNE said that he was th o fficially acquainted with what had pissed b , tween sod B b con Forests =Wee and the Commi.sioners of the Woods , and he had no reason to doubt that the state .ttiu the letter read by his Noble Friend was correct, when the sub-committee in that letter alluded to this v,..e l e being made the subject of a contentious discussion, t qleh it would be advisable to avoid, he (Marquis rrisdowre) felt himself bound to state that he was , aware of any cont ntion that had arisen on this t entl ic. nn°f unless it were, indeed, a laudable con to who should do the greatest honour tp . the. Duke of Wellington, by placing:the statue in a tuatur which, while conspicuous enough, would also econformablern . lable to the dictates of public taste, in con formity w ith the wishes of both Houses of Parliament, in I the country. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said that he fully agre:?.d in what had fallen from:the Noble Marquis;; all he desired to impress upon the House was, that the f ‘ab•committee could do no more than remove the statue rtsin the top of the arch, and that there their duty "titled. „, PUBLIC WORKS, &c. (IRELAND). die M arqu i s of LANSDOWNE laid upon the table itatu papers, moved for, from the Commissariat De rrtment in Ireland. These papers were brought w4w il to the latest ri sh out I period. In a few days he lay upon the table a report from the Board of or , 4 , 8 . which would place their Lordships in possession : that had been done to relieve the distr.( as existing Ir eland. CONCILIATION HALL. t 1 14 3„ 111 BROUGHAM called the attention of their Lord eti:,,,re,to a circular which had lately emanate” from Con -1;"',1011 Hall, urging upon the people of Ireland (and 5,,,,,k,L0rd Brougham) had no doubt that its request 4 e g e d be urged by the priesthood from the altar) the t i l l :Pity, the absolute necessity, of raising what tens h ut ' , the minimum subscription to the repeal Now he (Lord Brougham) hoped that mea- F res be taken to prevent any portion k m t he millions of money which was received from Eng tand Scotland—he trust( d that means would:be taken t r t erent one farthing of that money getting its way ;the coffers of Conciliation Hall. 11 0 , n he Marquis of LANSDOWNE said there could be I t , "'opinions upon that subject. He had not, how l', seen the circular refers d to by the Noble Lord. Tb NATIONAL FAST. tf t ," Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the 24 th fi x 'ls month having, by command of her Majesty, b( en teed- for a gen eral fast, he begged leave to move that th Bishop of Sr. Asaph (who was present) should on telltlay preach b.fore their Lordships House, in West -4ter Abb y. LAW OF MARRIAGE. h t T he Earl of CLARENDON presented a petition Some bankers, merchants, &c , of the borough of vAJ oll port, praying' for an alteration in the law th gleh r egu l ate d marr i a ges. The petitioners complained k w it t many irregularities had arisen from the, operation t o this law, and they thought that it might he extended tE degree that would embrace the sister of a deceased and others as remotely connected. The Noble %I L , pre sen t e d a p e tition t.) the same effect from the of ?oration of the borough. He agreed with the prayer nth petitions. • opi n: 11 CAMPBELL said that, notwithstanding the p w -l en of the Noble Earl, which was entitled to great th -i g e t , he felt hi,nself bound to come forward and say ti _at he entirely dissented from the prayer of the peti 1 ,9 4 , and from the opinion expressed by the Noble Earl. thonght that any alteration of this law would Ne t t great blow to domestic happiness, and he 'd it not help aying hi that, in s own mind, the "Lie of incest would be well applied to 4 Marriage between mig a man andno the sister of his t l e eased wif e . It ht be true en that inconve tbeanes had arisen from the operation of this law, but he Ought that even greater inconveniences would arise from tl.nY alteration of it. He entirelyapproved of the law brought b IL Y his Noble Friend (Lord Brougham) last session. was a most mischievous state of the law, and he tho ught the state of things necessitated that incestuous klarri agcs should be rendered null and void. He thought that thi s was a great improvement in the law, and he should c ertainly support its continuance. The Earl o ELLENBOROUGH said that the ques tion really was, what were the prohibited degrees? Lord CAMPBELL—That was not the question. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH begged the Noble Lord's pardon, for that really was a question which had e xcited much comment and great doubts in the minds Persons perfectly competent to form an opinion. If ti ts matter were to be discussed, they had no alternative ha t to go to Scripture ; for, if the Noble Lord were to st ate a ll hi s reasons f or oppos i ng t h e re p ea l o f the law, and if others were to do the same for carrying such a me asure, the debate would last till midnight; and it was a Matter on which even lawyers differed. Lord CAMPBELL said that there was not a lawyer itl the kingdom who doubted that it was necessary t o ma ke laws within the prohibited degrees null and void. I,Lord BROUHAM entirely agreed with his Noble : l end that thi s w as a most important question, and he quite ready to allow that in one part of the A ct a eient distinction had not been drawn to show b : objects of the Act. The promoters had cer of til7 no desire to interfere with the marriage reations, but only to prevent those between certain :Pees of affinity, and it was certainly very desirable , 4 1 . 1 t the question of the marriage law shouldl be productive as in its present state of uncertainty it was "netiv e of great mischief. The marriage between first proteins was prehibittd by the canon law, although not ob "", , bited by our law. The marriage between an le - w . c ' e L and niece was also prohibited by the canon di s ' b ut the Pope could, and freque ntl y did, grant 4-If: l nflations for such marriages, and t akin g the Principle, that "per icyem loci contractus," the eat,. of the place justified and confi rmed the m an with he did not see how the marr ia g e of b r —a n with the s i s ter of a deceased wife, when cele sated abro a d, could be dissolved in this country . At r'e'y rate it w as ver y d e sirable to settle the law wit h sZet to marriage. he subject then dropped. SECOND READINGS. T he t o Earl of CLARENDON moved the second read• R., 0 1 the f o ll ow i ng Bill s : ;airs and Markets Clauses Bill. Wa terworks Works Clauses Bill. Clauses Bill. Commissioners Clauses Bill. b ee " Duke of RICHMOND said he had several times sr4 1 1 : 11 Committees upon unopposed waterworks Bills, e felt the want of some clause to regulated the o W o `e!I to be charged for the water, so that the poor t o 1 not pay more for it than the rich. Heged tide called the attention of the Government to this(on rittion. ~ f _ EIE SCA, persons depOdent upon them, while in *Rochester there were no less teen seventy. if they were to t. , 4r paid for in this wee. there would be always ready advocates to supeort there. Persons would be found to support witchcraft itself if it could be paid or; at d the quarantine laws would never lack support while the State paid 15.0001. a year to those who were their advocates. For a long time, they had the support of medical autho rity in favour of these laws ; but, most honourable to the proffssien, that support was withdrawn. The soundest evidence had issued from places where the plague was endemic, which had thrown such a light on the subject as to induce the introduction of considerable moditica tioes in the sys,em. In 1838 Mr. Lewis, in an official communication on the subject of these laws, writing from Malta, where there was a great prejudice in favour of the system, said, " It is notorious that the modes in which plagues were communicated w ri imperfectly known. that many of the grounds on which the conenu ance of these laws rests are little better than vague hypo theses." Again, Dr. Robinson, in speaking of Egypt and Turkey, in an official communication in 1841, stated that the frightful diseases prevalent in the se countries arose from kcal cau;ei, and stated that the plague could not be communicated in pure atmo sphere, but that he was not prepared to say that it could not be communicated in confined places. or in impure atmosphere. Mr. Grant also stated that he was aware of thousands of casas where it had notcorn rcuniceted when there was proximity to diseased parties. He had known instances of persons completely ex• eluding themselves from contact with others, and taking the f. .to utmost, being nevertheless precaution B‘uytri attackedte t s lh p e e t c h respect most tetsf e their ea s clothingde remarkableshad aasde , beene cir cumstance a nd beco miiig victims fu to connexionit. mwr elicited si .(1.1)bli subject i y utl nh: a aecils, i,,of, iry plague CommissionAcademyha :07 Inquiry,appointed () Medicineintewhich,ltot quarantine,fprofessionalinabq,nr at s dai v ni n a rc( s ceioe a nsi p fs,nu,i p i tse o , t)ln i e n stdti4 t hfi e o4 d ecf. charaeter, Governments Tc , l u e l e d' iv ed liem every assistance ,beyffu w mediahticellyi put if t soir h ieah e bqrj r e n rueru s ; e :l ilortvface,e,aldrs, localities tgt i wite n ebos t se. o yi communication enLta‘rlevi;:eairtuchdhtthey with persons who had report,a ut n ise t t n i e n dt i o ( p ,ttno l b e e , tlovmh a tiu n chsh d et they chiel b dse'e C i r ar l cs y a'r of evidence which they had collected on the subject. They stated in their report that the facts they had been enabled to collect extending over the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, as well as up to a late period, proved incontrovertably, that the disease had a spontaneous origin. The conclusion come to by the Academy was that in those countries which the plague had visited—in Egypt, Syria, and Turkey, and in several other places in Africa, Asia, and Europe—it was not spontaneous ; and in those countries where it did originate, that it was caused by animal deposits in the alluvial soils adjoining such rivers as the Nile and the Eu phrates, by the action of putrescent animal and vegetable substances, by insufficient and unwhole some food, and by physical and moral wretchedness. With regard to the transtnissal of the plague by touch, it would be in the recollection of the House that, three sessions ago, he moved for a return of all the deaths which had taken place in the lazereit is, in conse quence of touching the garments of those who had died of the disease. The return was ' nil.' It had been proved that after all the costly institutions they had framed fur the prevention of this disease, it could not be introduced. Clothes subjected to a moderate heat would no longer commu cate it ; and the disease itself would not lie latent for more than eight days. The most absurd report and ideas were prevalent with regard to the plague. Many supposed that it could be communi eated by clothes after the lapse of years, and one writer had stated that the plague had been intro duced from Thebes from the unrolling of a mummy. In many parts of the world a moment i n this question was going forward. Russia was advanc• ing, and public opinion was fast changing in regard to these laws. Austria was also stirring. In places where the greatest ignorance prevailed opinion was becoming enlightened. Last year there was a scientific congress held at Marseilles. which though principally composed of contagionists. yet passed resolutions that the present law requiroii m elification. He believed that if the quarantine : ay.. bad not existed the unfortunate people on board the Eclair would have been spared, and no damage what ever would }awe occurred to the community Ile would, therefore, move for any copies of the corre spondence which had taken place on the subject of the quarantine laws:since the last session of Parliament. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. lie thought that the most convincing argument against the entire useless. ness of these laws was, that during the hundred years that the quarantine laws had been in existence, at an expense of upwards of 140,0001. a year, not one person employed to open the bales and air the cargo upon vessels coining to the country under the most suspicous circumstances had ever been effected. The sum mentioned by his Hon. and Learned Friend was scarcely a tithe of the expense of the main• tenance of the quarantine system. The commerce of the country had been delayed and impeded by it. lie believed the general interest of the community had stiff , red from the system to an extraor dinary degree, and, therefore, he was happy to have the opportunity of thanking his Hon. Friend fur having brought the subject forward. Mr. MILNER GIBSON said it was unnecssssry for him to dwell upon the various subjects which had been introduced into the speech of his Honourable Friend, because he was not .aware that there was the slightest objection to the motion which the Hon. Gentleman had made as to the production of the corres pondence moved for. There was not the slightest d , eibt that the quarantine regulations in the various countries of the world had been prejudicial to commerce, bu', as fur as England was concerned, she hail reduced her regula tions so as in many cases to render them almost nominal. For instance, ships from Turkey were now admitted free of quarantine, provided they were net laden with suscepteble urticles, and the same regulations ap plied to ships from Syria and Egypt. But in a matter like this England could not act by herself. She must have the co i peration of the other nations of Europe. The necessity of quarantine was imposed by the opinion which prevailed in foreign nations. lie would further say that he had every reason to believe that those who had charge of those laws were extremely anxious to make them us little injurious as possible to the commerce of the country. He, therefore, begged to say that there could be no objection to granting the returns. Mr. THORNLEY wished to impress on the Government the necessity of an examination of these quarantine laws, for he believed that inquiry would lead to their being done away with altogether. — The motion was agreed to. ABSENTEEISM IN IRELAND. Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN rose to move—" That, inasmuch as the non-residence of landed proprietors in Ireland is one of the HOSPITAL AT PORT MAHON. cau'es of social disorganisation in that kingdom, it is expedient Sir DE LACY EVANS gave notice that on a future to impose a charge by way of special assessment, in aid o f l oca l day he should put a question to the Noble Lord the objects of an useful nature, upon the estates of absentee pro- Secretary for Foreign Affairs with respect to a petition prietors, with avi7 to make d some compensation for the evils which had been presen t ed. p ra y in g that a militar y hos- resulting fromtb eir non-resi rrice." He was perfectly sensible pital might be erected at Port Mahon. that he had imposed upon himself a task which was by no Mr. P. BORT !MICK inform ed the Hon. Member that means acceptable to . the House, as so many gentlemen in England derived a large revenue from property in Ireland. he had already given a similar notice. There was no person who had visited Ireland—there was no Sir DE LACY EVANS withdrew his notice in favour person who had lived there—who had not placed on record the of that of the lion. Member. decision at which he had arrived, that Ireland had suffered QUARANTINE LAWS. greatly from the draughts of propetty from that country. 1)r. BOWRING rose to move for a continuation of There were persons who called themselves philosophers and the correspondence with respect to these laws. lie political economists, who professed tkat this was no injury. said, although the subject was an uninviting one, yet He believed that Mr. Mackellar was the first person who the discussions which had taken pla.e upon it broached the opinion, Irelandut he believe he d that he lis t seen t reas h on had gone far to prevent undue espionage by the Crown. to withdraw it it. a largew as I t tt tribute, sa fo rn r the e re t a r t ib io u n te was t in country as if remitted The discussion had also done m uch to remove man y dis- fact remitted in goods or m one y , and could it be said that the abilities under which travellers and ot hers laboured in country would be as much benefited as if the goods consequence of the existence of those laws. He was sure, had remained in the country. It mattered net also, that every additional discussion would tend towards whether the tribute was remitted in grain, in cattle, the same end; and it was with that view that he felt it his or in money, but it was plain that if this property duty to move for the continuation of the correspondence had remained in Ireland, it would have contributed to increase which had taken piece since the subject was last under the earnings of labour, increase the promotion of art, and re hl c h e re the attention of the House. The sanatory condition of greatests m n ceuh l hardlyevils polow ward the exertions of fed dstbry all much ands t did be n a o l rr p i h n i I o t s b iio i s • the people was intinsetely connec ed with those laws, and country. t h a t l t t h e wa e ;i a l d a rn oLf t e t a a b te s d en y t t h e e ei he was not without hope that tii. e time was not far pliers, sated. , Absen t eeis m distant when those laws would be removed altogether.a emPe country n - it'd suffer, becatee the natural capital of the country—the l'he best results had followed alterations in those c' a capital derived from the soil - was withdrawn from its legiti laws in the west of Europe, and in the Levantr ca source of circulation, On the other hand, the advantage Plague, like all other diseases, was materially increased of the proprietors of land residing on it were great, whether for when circumstances concurred to promote its propaga- the purpose of giving or dispensing charity, for pre tion. Ile need not refer to any instances to illustrate venting agrarian outrage, and for the purpose of seeing the truth of this proposition. That celebrated case in the law properly carried out, as magistrates or Calcutta, where, out of 140 individuals, more than juries, the advantage of having resident proprietors 100 perished in a single night, was a melancholy proof were great ; in fact, proprietors whose ancestors had been long „1 it. 'That fact was notorious to every reader of history, connected with the soil, partook almost of a patriarehiat cha let(' demonstrated the pernicious effects of unventilated meter. These, he knew, were all truisms, and he o ught and confined places. In the last session, at- almost to apologise to the House for dwelling upon them. He ten den was called to the great mortality on should, therefore, proceed to illustrate the difference between residentby and non-resident landlords, a single case which board the Eclair , an d this mortality, which was not had specially fallen under his own observation. unfri quetaly to be found on beard ship, was to He wished, however, to premise that he slid he attributed to the same cause, and bore evi- not intend to mention the case in any invidious spirit. dente to the tru th of the facts to which he called Throughout the whole of his ob,ervations he wished to avoid the attention o f th House. Ina dispatch which had been any remarks which could give offence to any one. He hail sent by Lord Palmerston to Lord Ponsonby in 1839, had an opportunity, by his connexion with the counties of - been of knowing that the late Lord Egremont year from his property ' h e _ i counties. That Noble in those two and which had presentedeeu t r o ecu t g h n e ised T . urk l i s l i e r 1 received Clare and 2s L , i u m o e o r l i . c a k, Divan, these truths had Lord, he believed, never saw his considered that by elements of disease would i estates, and he did not believe that he expended upon provements of large cities, the that property, alter discharging the incidental ex t in this respect be gradually removed. Au improveuien the progrebss of the aanitary penses, more than five hundred pounds a year. believed that I f Lord Egremont therefore resided on his estates in Ireland, was no doubt going on in Egypt, in various other parts of the vie ell and he ~ and fulfilled the duties which devolved upon him in the same hat acter of the in Turkey, and manner that he did in England, who could calculate the of those appri - amount of good which would be done to the locality. He a greater knowledge of the causee and c plague would tend to remove many been ex- thought that nothing could exceed the moral heroism exhibited hensions of groundless alarms which had Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland had done cited in the minds of the timid. In the time by Sir Robert Gore Booth, and he was glad to see that the of I Is , rodotus, Egypt was considered to be a very healthy Now, with respect to the amount of evil which Ireland suffered from the operation of absenteeism, he would country ; taut in consequence of the inattention of the people, the marshy nature of some parts of the soil, the f ee l a great difficulty in submitting anything like correct in anarchyustice to it. formation ; but, according to the beat calculators, it did not which bad existed for centuries, and the wretched character of its inhabitants, had tended to make fall short of 4,000,0001. a year, being nearly one-third of the that country - one of the meat unhealthy in the world. whole rental o b t le th t e country. Now through the h p e ee ( r a a lr e . , S. r O a ' s fdi f • a i r en a l had in It was a well known fact that plague had never entered taken the trouble wereg conc g erred, it woguld beo ' impo4sible to into any of the colder latitudes. made from Eneland to India in a verypsrti'mate of their rentals, but he had gone hee Peerage, and he would take the liberty On the other aide of the Atlatitie, where great attention through t. e those Noble Lords who had properties in Ireland. was paid to the health of the inhabitants in the United of mentionhinehey - t derived enormous rentals, and who never few days. form an from which States. There were 110 quarantine laws, and vessels crossed the Atlantic in a much shorter time than they companies, and he would refer to the Irish Society, ; did heretofore; in ten or eleven days Europe Londond a large revenue from Ireland, and. the Hon. Mem- now communicated with America. These laws w e b r iL f th r rSeowuthwark (Mr. Alderman Humphery), whom r he saw e visited that country. In the first instance lie would take the were founded in ignorance, and in ignorance they this would the House, could contradict him if he was d iror. wholil formed their support and attachment to them ; this would give the names of many noblemen and gentlemenere absentees was found strongest in those countries where the possessed large properties in Irela _, knowledge of medicine least prevailed. In those parts f rd, Conyngham, Lansdowne, of Italy where the science of medicine was most back- Beilfard ; the Alarquisea ot' Hert i o and Abercorn ; Earls For ward, such as Naples, they were most strict in the Anglesea, Bath, Ely, Dolinegad, Audley, and Albemarle ; preaervation and onservaeon of quarantine. But with wildam, Stradbroke, BeresforNo rmanby, Congleton, Ashley, from the country. The Dukes of D . eavnonshire, Buccleuele and the progress of inquiry, and attention to the subject, the Lords Portarlington, Clifton, Fortescue and Ternoemore ; alarm had become di)sipated, and the previous fears _S!anley, Lisle, Stahope, Alessrs. nd S). ,A d i n r ey Herbert,Ormsby Stafford O'Brien, Greville, Fox ore. All these gentlemen O'Brien were found to be without foundation. The end of all this had been that great changes were extorted from Go- L ane, considerable property . in Ireland, vernment by the might and irresistible influence of public thought that theshould have no objection to aid him in en. opinion. The quarantine laws, however, were connected deaveurieg to impose upon them a tax which would make som some with the pecuniary interests of a vast number of persons. compensation to the country for their absence from their estates. b and he (Mr. S. O'Brien ) The State paid 15,5901. a year for their maintenance, and he found that in Liverpool there were ninety perfectly simple. To impose such a tax iv WC: UN 11211 """ e The mode in which that was to be done appeared to him i _to__,e.. The Earl of CLARENDON neknowledged that' the tgq.xtion of the Noble Duke was well worthy of atteatirm. Thy' Bills were then read a second time, in order to be committed tomorrow. DRAINAGE OF LAND BILL. On the motion o t Ear, of CLARENDON this Bill was read a first time. Their Lirchhips then adjourned. HOUSE 01 COMMONS, Marsh 18. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. SECOND READINGS._ The following Bills were read a second time:— Eastern Counties Railway (Enlargement of Stratford stations, and Amendment of Acts). Shrewsbury and Birmingham Railway Act Amend ment and Branches. _ . . South Devon Railway Extension and Amendment. INCOME TAX. Petitions from the collectors and assessors of the income-tax and property-tax, complaining that their remuneration was very inadequate, and praying the flou.se to take steps to remedy the grievance, were pre sented by the following Members:—Mr. Sheppard, Mr. Muirz, Mr. Keinble, Mr. Escott, and Mr. Johnstone. Mr. HAMILTON presented a petition from th© High Sheriff and grand jury of the county of Sligo, praying the House to take means to develop the resources of Ireland, and encourage trade and agriculture. HORSE-RACING IN IRELAND. Dr. BOWRING , presented a petition from Kildare against the impropriety of allowing the public money to be used fur the purpose of encouraging horse-racing. LAW OF MARRIAGE. Mr. H. BERKELEY presented a petition from the merchants and bankers:of the city of Bristol, stating that, in their opinion, the present law preventing marriage with a deceased wife's sister might be repealed. Also another petition signed by between thirty and forty Dissenting . ministers of Bristol to the same effect. Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition against the use of grain in distilleries. SMITHFIELD MARKET. Mr. PATTISO ST presented a petition against the re moval of Smithfi-ld Market. Mr. CHRISTOPHER presented three petitions from the occupiers of land in the county of Lincoln, from Sisaford, Stamford, and Lincoln, praying for the re moval of Smithfield Market. Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN presented a petition from certain graziers in Northampton against the re moval of the market. Mr. MACKINNON presented three petitions from parties in the neighnourhood of Smithfield Market, praying. that the removal of it may be speedily effected. POOR-LAW IN lIIELXND. - Mr. S. CRAWFORD presented a petition from the chairman and board of guardians of Carrickmacross against ihe present row-law, and praying the House to pass the Landlord and Tenant Right Bill. UNION SETTLEMENTS IN IRELAND. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the landowners and rate-payers of Kildare, praying for art union system of rating. BLACK WALL RAILWAY. Sir WILLIAM CLAY presented a petition from the Tower Hamlets against the Bill of the Blackwell Rail way, now before the H )use. ASSESSORS AND COLLECTORS OF TAXES. Lord SANDON presented a petition from Broughton, in the county of Hertford, complaining of the inadequate remuneration now paid to the collectors and assessors of taxes, and praying for an increase The Noble Lord also presented a petition from certain traders and owners of vessels in Liverpool against tiv? Birkenhead Docks. FRIDAY ... t; ~,,,„, 40; 77 ' J --. - r - --- - -- -2 - --,,,01.-7- . -. --- -ew.......... wg pi g e, ' commerce, arid the Parliament of the country 'became more Vvoula more for tire papers of whicb he bad pnvtio tepelena . free andimesheekled. No cenntry in the world more fiderisbe! then ! illustrative of this caste did Ireland durine the short existence of that !reedier of trade i The CHANCELLOR cf the EXCHEQUER justified the ,--:- 1 andfree oe: of Parliament. Hertradeand martufactusesincressi d ' removal of i\ r. O'Meara from the office of Restistrar`ef Benefit I. je atnereeeern se d um, eied, and the weele condition Of the people Societies. The Noble Lord was mistaken in stating ,aiitlSTre - ' - :: showed manifest spumonis of irnprovemeet. This gratify Mg O'Meora was a geistletnan of great experience. He hadohljfhaldvlS state of things hutted up to the time of the union, bu' atter ' the office for six months, and he (the Chancellor of the Ezche that act was consummated, trade began to decline. Menefee- quer ) had acted upon what es-the admitted rule, namely, that tures gradually dropped, until they became aimost extinct, and the person holding the office should chaise, with the Attorney by slow degress the country became miserably impoverished, General ; end the same rule also head in Scotland, for and her population 'educed to a state of almost hopeless star- • every succeeding Lord- Advocate appointed the individual vation. All this was owing to the absenteeism produced by the , who filled the office of registrar. The Right Hon. Baronet union, and in this state would Ireland lemain until Parliament • then proceeded to read the names of the Attorneys-General took steps to diminish that evil. English capitalists did not ob- for Ireland for a series of years, and the appointments which ject to investing their money in some of the most disturbed parts : each had made to the office of registrar. He did not under of South America, but nothing would induce them to send it . stand that the commissioners had at all exceeded their duty. to Ireland, and the reason why they w ou ld nut was ' He had consulted the Lord-Advocate of Scotland and the At simple and just. They knew very well that it was itn- ' torney-General of Ireland, and had been given to understand possible to compete with English manufactures in England, . by those eminent legal authorilee that there was not any and where was the use of their starting works and establish- ! thing in the construction of the Act to justify meats in Ireland when there were no customers to buy the ' Mr. O'llleara's complaint. Neither did he see that goods they might manufacture? These were positive facts, there wa - anythirg in tho construction of the Act and any attempts of the m anuf ac turers in that. country. which to justify the impression that there had been injustice cum had been made, had failed in consequence of the powerful op. mined in the displacement, of fib-. 0-Meara. The Right Hen. position of English houses. Those persons were able to give Gentleman then read an extract front the Ac', to s how the credit to their customers, and the Irish manuf a ct urers have' g pros isiens which affected this eartieular ease. If Mr. O'Meara no capital to fall back upon, nor any home market to take off had arty reaos n to c , mpltin of the oeticiency of his salary, he their produce, had not, if course, been able to comp e t e with ought to have asked for snore. It was idea% s customary, em them in the markets. It was to meet these circumstances that an, chan ge se the Attorney-General in Ireland, for the the Hon. Member for Limerick had brought fe rse a r e hi s mot i on officials under him to be changed also. and there was not one for taxing Irish absentees. It had, however, been said that word io the /set, that he could discover, to justify the sup these Irish absentees were good and excellent la e dlord s , position that the syste m would be altered. With respect to Why, then, if they were such good landlords, that was a strung the papers fir which the N.,We Lord bad asked, he had area reason who they should go over to Ireland to reside, it could some parties on behalf of Mr. O'Meara, ant! though he did not not be supposed that by their going over to that country they , see that they could serve any purone, he should have no objet , would become bad landlords, or 'hat they would change sky tern -0 (rant them. and sun by going there. The Hon. Member then went on to Mr. GOULBURN could not sea that there 'was sufEci nt repeat the statement! which he had made Pa a previous even- ' reason made out for the dismissal of Mr. O'Meara, for the ing respecting the revenue of Ireland, and proceeded to show, Right. Honou-able Baronet must know that the real ob from the details of various returns made to the House, that ject for the attainment of which this Act was passed, the remittances from the Irish to the British Exchequer, ex. was to obviate the inconvenience of changing the under officials ceeded, by upwards of 0.00:),000/. per annum, the 'in the office of the Attorney- General. Then the Right Hon. amount reedited from the British to the Irish Exchequer , Baronet arpeared to rely. anti laid areal stress on, the construc tion of the Act of Parliament; cert a i n ly, w h en there wee the and called upon the House to insist upon those persons who were drawing their rents frem Irish property to return to opinion of so many lawyses, ire - did not feel himself qualified to Ireland, at least, to spend a portion of their i ncomes i n that , give an opinion ; but when he looked to the fact to which he couatrv, and by so doing tend to ameliorate the condition of . had just alluded, there was, in his opinion, sufficient reason to' the people, and draw forth the resuuires of that impoverished I believe that this Act was not intended to affect such an i n ei.. country. vidual as Mr. O'Meara. It was admitted that an interval must Lord CASTLEREAGH thought that at all events no elapse between the retirement of one, and the appointment of charge could be brought against the Irish Members for an another Attorney-General. Now, during tha' interval, Mr. unwillingness to make sacrifices, in order to meet the present O'Meara had acted as the certifier u n d er th e A ct , au di t was I distressing emergency of Ireland, but, at the same time, as an highly important that the acts of that gentleman should be con- Irish Member, he must protest against any precedent being set ' firmed and adm:tted as legal. by a legislative measure of imposing conditions upon the After a few words from the CHANCELLOR of the EX. possession of property, such as would be imposed if the CHEQUER in explanation, the motion was then agreed to. motion of the Hon. Member for Limerick were acceeded to. GREECE. Should the proposed poor. law measure be carried into opera- I...ird JOHN MANNERS postponed his motion on the tion, there would be no doubt but that all the property in suteject of Greece till atter Easter. Ireland would bear its portion to the support of the country, RAJA OF SATTARA. but he did not think it would b' fair, if, in addition to the Mr. HUME then rose to move for copies of a - dispatch charges which would be laid upon property by that measure, , from the Secret Committee of the Court of Directors of the another tax were to be levied upon the absentees themselves. East India Company to the Right Hon. the Governor-General There seemed to be a very general feeling in that House against of India, respecting the Ex-Raja of Sattara, dated the 24th Irish landlords as a body, which he did not think they day of March, 1e46 ; and a copy of the reply of the Right deserved, the Right Hon. Member- for Alarylebone had Hon. the Governor-general of India to that dispatch; toge exerted all the stores of his eloquence against that body, ther with copies of the several documents referred to in that He (Lord Castlereagh) was happy to see that the Right Hon, reply, or connected with it; and of any other letters which Member had received the reward of his exertions, in the sh a p e have been addressed by the present Governor-General of India of a vote of thanks from the parochial vestry of Marylebone, to the Court of Directors of the East India Company, relating and he had no doubt that the Right Hon. Baronet would be to the ease of the Ex-Raja of Satara, from the period of his pretty secure at the ensuing election.- ( Laughter. ) Lordship's arrival to the present time; also copies of the Colonel RAWDON thought that this motion did not go minutes of dissent of members of the Court of Directors far enough. He thought that the resolution of the Hon. which have been recorded by any member of that Court, and Member for Limerick did not go far enough, for the evil of net hitherto published, relating to the case of the Ex-Raja absenteeism was not confined to the nonmxpenditere of of Saltara, from the eoth of April, 184 in to the present time. money. The absence of that moral influence which the Sir J. C. HOB i'iOUSE wished, as a favour, that his Hon. presence of the landed proprietary would have in improving Friend would postpone his motion till a future day. , he social aad m , iral condition of the people was one of its worst Mr. HUME said be could not accede to the request of the consequences. He thought that the House had a perfect lion. Member. the Right Hon. Gentleman had bad two right to task those who had so greatly abandoned these duties. weeks to consider the motion, and he could not consent to A great moral influence would be exercised by the landed pro- postpone it any longer. Tee Baja of Sattara's conduct had prietors of Ireland if they were in that country to give their been impugned in connexion with the East India Company, advice and assistance as grand jurors, and to fulfil the various and a i equest had been sent out to Lord Hardinge, the Gover. other duties which devolved upon them. Their presence would nor-General, requesting him to make a report upon the sub... also have the effect of greatly mitigating the horrors of the ject. The Noble Lord accordingly made a report, and that distress which at present existed, and from a letter which he report had row been in the hands of the Government seven or lately received from Armagh, he feared the statement that had eight months. If the document had been discreditable to the been made with reference to the small holdings is that cou n ty Raja it would have been published, and he thought it nothing were very erroneous. - - - ---• but. right that it should-belaid•before the public if it contain Mr. FITZGERALD thought that instead of a tax of 10 per any thing to his credit. cent., a tax of 50 percent. would not be too much to impose. Mr. WILLIAAIS seconded the motion. on those who had so greatly abandoned their duty. He was Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE said it was an unending task at; very much surprised at the Hon. Member below him i Alder- any time for any Member of the Government to refuse the man Humphery ) stating that the absentee proprietors spent production of papers. At the same time, ho thought the more money in Ireland in proportion to their ren t a l th an the House would agree with him that those papers ought not to be resident proprietors; but with all deference to the Hon. Gen- produced. Hi s Hon. Frielid was wrong in his description of tleman, he very much doubted the correctness of that assertion. these papers ; but, nevertheless, as a gent ral proposition, be He had no doubt from the statement so eloquently made by did not think it was proper that the private correspondence be the Hon. Gentleman that the London Society had expended a teeen the Governor-General of India and his subordinates large amount of money on their property, hut he did not think should be produced to the House. But, independently' of that that could be said of many o ther a b sen t ee p ro p r i e t ors , these considerations, there was a fact. in connexion Copieswiththesoet Mr. R. YORKE rose amidst cries of " Divide." Ile said papers, which ought to negative their production. he should be exceedingly brief in what he had to say. He these confieential . dispatches an d correspondence had, some wished to ask the House two questions; first, how, in pressing way or other, f oun d th e i r w ay to England. His Honour. this question of absenteeism, would they define? and, se- abie Friend had tetown hint an envelope, which con condly, how, in pressing such a tax would they reconcile it vinced him of this, and he thought. was a sufficient reason with the great constitutional question of an invasion upon per- why the papers should net he hastily produced. sonal liberty? If they would answer these questions a. shortly He would ask the House whether they would sanction that as he had put them, he should vote for the motion.—(Cheers which was evidently a fraud or breach of trust, and a perjury on and laughter.) the part of th e p ersons emp l oyed. If such proceedings were Mr. W. V. STUART did not think that a 10'. per cent. to be sanctioned, the Government ef India, and not only that, tax would be sufficient to induce the owners of property to re but all the other branche s o f t h e G overnment would be unable side in Ireland. He should, however, vote for the motion. to carry on their p r o cee di ngs . I t was a most shameful trau- Mr. S. CRAWFORD agreed in the general principles section, and that was the reason the parties bad not cared to brought forward by the Hon. Gentleman the Member for make the matter public; they knew that they would be liable Kilkenny (Mr. J. O'Connell), but found great difficulty :n to be asked how they obtained possession of the papers, and saying that he should vote for the motion before that was a question ehich they knew they could not well the House. He considered that whatever legislation answer. He would only say, that had not such they took on the subject should not be confined solely to he- a course of nefarious conduct been pursued, be would have had, land, but should apply to the whole nation.—( Hear.) If they no objection to produce the papers. As it was., however, her !axed Irish proprietors who did not reside in their eountre, wculst most positively refuse to produce them, and called upon ,hey must decide, on the same principle, that an English the House to supp o rt hi m i n t h e reso l ut i on to wh; - ich he had arrived Mr. WILLIAMS thought that the papers ought to be pro duced, in justice to the Raja of Sattara. Mr. BRIGHT w s well aware that there were many means existing in India by which copies of the correspondence of the officials of the Government c-uld be obtait ed ; and he thought it rather hard that. because some dishonesty or irregularity had taken place in obtaining copies of the correspondence, that therefore, the official returns should be refused; especially as they might tend to justify the character of the dethroned Raja. Sir EDWARD CO.LERROOK was of opinion that they sht.uld have full information on this subject, unless the Right Hon Gentlemen thought that it jury would rt suit to the Govern.. ment, by the production , f the paper. He bad not given any sufficient reason for their refusal. Mr. AGLIONIsY st.ott.mt they were losing time in that discussion, and es the Right Honourable Gentleman had not objected to the production of the papers, and had only refused them on account of the precedent this would establish; h e hoped the Hcn. Member for Montrose would rest satisfied at present, and had no doubt they would be produced on a future oc..asion. Mr. B. ESCOTT thought that the papers should not be refused, even if fraud had been commi;ted in procuring the papers, as it was necessary that the House should have the fullest information on fhe subject-.that it might. have an op portunity of pronouncing a correct judgment on the case of the unfortunate Prince to whom they referred. Sir ROBERT PEEL thought the Right Hon. Gentleman was quite right in refusing the papers. If the House would assent to this motion it would give its sanction to what was a most objectionable and dishonourable proceedieg with regard to procuring these documents. He thought, therefore, that he was quite right in refusing them, and he should not have inti mated that he would produce them on a future occasion, as this would be holding out an encouratfement to such practices. Dr. BOWRING said the Raja had nothing to do with the surreptitious way in which the papers had been obtained, and therefore he trusted his cause would not suffer from it.. He had known instances in which the House had printed papers obtained in such a way. After a few wrrdt from Lord PALMERSTON, Mr. HUNIE said he considered that the papers might have been abstracted from a sense of justice of the claim of the Raja. (Oh, oh.) He had endeavoured to bring the subject before the House for some time past; but he had not had an opportunity of doing so until that evening, and he hoped now the produc tion of the papers would not be delayed on the ground of eti quette. He, however, had no objection to withdraw that part of the motion to which the Hon. Baronet objected. The motion so amended was then agreed to. CORPORAL PUNISHMENT IN THE NAVY. Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number of persons flogged in the British navy in each of the years 1645 and 1846, specifying the name of the ship, the offence, the sentence, and the number of lashes inflicted; and also for an abstract of the total number of corporaT fintishineets in the navy, and the total number of lashes inflicted, in each year, up to the 31st day of December, 1846. Admiral BOWLES had no objection to the production of papers which had reference to the itfbction of cor poral punishment in the navy, and the circumstances under which the different punishments were inflicted. He should rejoice when the hour would arrive that would enable them to abolish eorplral punishment altogether. All that he objected to was, the giving the names of the vessels, at in many instances the continanders were compelled to resort to corporal punishment to preserve subordir.atic.n. Neither had they any opportunities to inflict sect nlary punishments such ars the qrs . : had, by prisons and drills, for they had seldom room to imprisoa more than three men. There always existed s m oir ss e i k a i n nit a l organisation in the army, but a ship mighth to o e eoist bring his men into one year, and the officer in command eoa severity. aain e to lit be tl g e in Moreover, every three_ a yearv an entirely new crew to govern. discipline, which could not be whole without task as they generally h . d hoped to be able to introduce a Bill that night ser vices, but he Mr. WARD admitted the difference between the two didnot think that establishment of home stations. He which would enable them to introduce secondary punishments, by the corporal punishment could be entirely done away with, but he wished - to have the wholesome check of public opinion over it , _ _ exer tion, and no officer, where it was required, would hesitate to resort. to it. Mr. FOX MAULE thought the claim was one of these which ought to be confined to very narrow limits, although it could not. be entirely done away with. Mr. WILLIAMS heard with admiration the wish and ho p s of the Gallant Admiral. Since the last returns had be en granted the punishment in the army had been lessened. The returns were then agreed to. LUNATIC ASYLUMS. The ATTORNEY- GENERAL moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the regulation of lunatic asylums. BILL FOR LIGHTING AND IMPROVING TOWNS. Lord MORPETH moved for leave to bring in a Bill for consolidating in one Act certain provisions contained in Acts for lighting, watching, paving, draining, and improving towns. Sir ROBERT PEEL wished to know if it was intended to dispense with the necessity of applying for private Bills? If they were only to have this Bill, he did not, think that it would fulfil the expectations raised by her Majesty's speech onsana tory improvement. Lord sanatory reform ßPE was T Hin undertimate d consideration,tha t a more andgeneral m b easu . re on -. troduced on a future eay. Th e present measure was on e ly m tO n p o r t iv th a i t n e k ßi t l h ls e . facilitate Lord L c p o r o t r N e s. d eio d f Bill so extensive as it ought to be. After a few words from Mr. AGLIONBY, The motion was agreed to. On the motion that the House go into Committee upon the HARBOURS, DOCKS, AND PIERS-HARBOURS BILL. Mr. C. BERKELEY expressed his determination to sp. pose the Bill in all its stages. The committal of this Bill was, after a few words from Mr. WARD. adjourned till Monday next. GENERAL REGISTER HOUSE (EDINBURGH)BILL. This Bill passed through Commi ttee, and was ordered to be reported. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quartor-past One o'clock. A deputation from the Great Metropolitan Cattle Market and Abattoir Company, accompanied by Mr. Lane, deputy chairman, and attended by Mr. Henry F. Richardson, the solicitor, waited on Viscount Morpeth, at the office of the W 904 NA &redo, yesterday. DUNFERMLINE. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the tradesmen of Dunfermline against the railway which passed through the town. RAILWAYS IN IRELAND._ Dir. MOFFA presented petitions from Carrick-on- Suir, the barony of Athlone, and other places, praying the Government to make advances of money on Irish railway s as a means of employing the people. EDUCATION. Mr. HINDLEY presented petitions from several Bap. fist' congregations against the Government scheme of education, and moved that they should be printed with the votes. DECCAN PRIZE MONEY. Sir DE LACY EVANS said, seeing the Right Hon. Baronet the Pri sident of the Board of Control in his te;ace, begged to ask the question of which he had given notice—whether there was any likelihood of a speedy decision in this matter, as parties who stood in need of it were deprived of it? Sir J. C. 110BHOUSE said he had answered the question already, some three weeks ago, but he had no objection to state it again to the House. He begged now to state, that since that date there had been an adjustment, and the Government was now ready to pay over to the trustees the sum of 2,2001. S►rDE LACY EVANS inquired whether the amount of the recompense had been derided upon ? Sir J C. HOBHOUSE said that that question had been settled some time ago between the commissioners of the Deccan prize money and the Court of Directors. Mr. HUME asked whether the observation applied to the 112,000/. ? Sir J.C. HOBHOUSE intimated that it did. POOR-LAW (IRELAND). Mr. J. O'CONNELL presented a petition, very nu merously signed by the inhabitants of New Ross, com plaining that the present poor-law operated vi ry inju riously- to them, and praying that a better system of election for the guardians of the poor might be adopted. They prayed that out-door relief might be given to the able-bodied poor. They stated that the poor-law, as now administered, interfered with the religious dif ferences of the country; that the greater part of the inhabitants of Ireland were Roman Catholics, and that they had no sufficient influence in the direction of the poor-law; that this interference with religious opinions was greatly to be deplored; and that, unless a better principle were adopted in the new poor law, it was the impression of the petitioners that that [louse was totally incompetent to make just and sufficient laws for Ireland. Mr. J. O'CONNELL also presented a petition from the Rev. Mr. Duggan, parish priest in Ireland, com plaining of a misrepresentation in the reports of Captain Lynch. ROYAL ASSENT. At this time Sir Augustus Clifford, the Usher of the Black Rod, appear. d at the table, and summoned the [louse to the House of L )rds, to hear the Royal Assent given to certain Bills (for which see Lords' report). OPENING OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS. Mr. HUME wished to ask—he did not, however, see the First Commissioner of the Woods and Forests in his place, or he would have asked—whether as the new House of Lords was to be shortly opened, any accommodation had been made for the Members of the House of Commons? for he (Mr. Hume) could not see any. LONI)ON I . RN EN G, MARCH. !SAL Oose who were disposed to deny that it was a great misforliune that so large a propoitien of the property of Ireland was held loy persons who only occasionally resided there. He trusted, however, that this was an evil which would be grsclualls amended ; and, he might say, than there were two measures. one of which had been proposed to that House, and the other had been announceit by her Majesty's Government, as about to be submitted to the consideration of the Legislature, which he thought would be a fair and legitimate means of counteracting the evils under which Ireland was then suffering. One of these was the poor-law which had been lately discussed. This law—and it was one of the strongest recommendations which, in his eyes, the measure had—authorised property, whether it was held by absentee landlords or resident proprietors, to contribute its fair share to the relief of the distress in Ireland. He would acknowledge to the Hon Member for Westmeath that, in the course of his experience in Ireland, he had observed many and striking cases of this kind, to which the lion. Member had alluded, where the exertions of the resident proprietors to meet the distress which existed in their neighbourhoods, we•e curbed and rendered abortive by the refusal of those landlords who were not present to witness the destitution which existed, to accede to the schemes which were originated for the purpose of alleviating that misery and that distress. It would be no longer possible when this Bill was passed, to refuse their aisent to such measures as might be cons dered necesssry for the relief of the evils which stir rounded them. There was another measure to which he attached equal foice He behest' d that many of the evils under which Ireland was suffering were attributable to the fact, not that property was in the hands of absentee proprietors, but t hat it. was in the hand , of persons so eneuml ered that it was impossible for them property to perform those duties whi&ii devolved upon them. He did trust, therefore, that the Bill which the Noble Lord at the head of the Government svoulri shortly off r to the Legislature would facilitate the sale of encumbered estates, and thus benefit Ireland bj placing property in the hards of those persons who, having money as well as the disposition to improve the soil, would perform their duty to their destitute and poorer neighbours.—( Hear, hear.) While he agreed with the Hon. Member for Limerick that great evil- arose tom the system of absenteeism, he did not think that the resolwion he had bought forward would have the effect of counteracting, or remedying the evils which existed, but he could nut concede to the Hon. Member, that those proprietors ought to be included among absentees, who possessing property in Ireland and England, spent the greater portion of their time in the latter country. tie never could consent to make any difference between the proprietors of the two countries, and consider those as ab sentees who only hal an occasional residence in Ireland, for he beli,ved that many men who held property both in Ireland and England would feel it to be their duty to reside partly in one couniry and partly in the other, and he could not theretore consent to consider them both as absentee proprietors. In considering both these countries then as portions of the empire he had to lock at their general interests, and doing so he could not agree to the proposition of the lion. Member, that because a landlord reside's part of the year out of Ire land that he was to be consisered as an absentee proprietor. Yet while saying this he was not at the same time quite assented to the truth that every one who drew his subsistence from the soil ought to do their duty by the country, amt 'hat it was not at all likely that those who were absent from the country were able to relieve the distress which they did nut see, and with the details of which, of course, they could net be acquainted so well as others who were upon the -pot, and who had seen them. He would now read a passage from a pamphlet which was published about a hundred years ago, and which produced a great sensation at the time it hap pened. The author was Sir Thomas Prior, some of whose suggestions were very striking at the present moment. That gentleman said that there were many gentlemen who drew large sums of money from the country wh•i never contributed anything to the burdens of the State. Taking all these toge ther, he presumed that there wer not less than from 200,000% to 300,000/. a year by these who ip nt their money in for ign countries, who left their own without assistance, and who never lived among the people during the whole of their lives. He trusted that the Legislature would take thoaepersons under their consideration, and compel them to contribute to the burdsns of the country, and that, as soon as possible, some remedy should be found. He then went on to state that. in his op nion, an absentee tax ought to be laid upon the landed proprietors who lived out of the country, but that a tax on the land itself would be still more important. Now, with this,:under general circumstances, he could not agree, although he quite agreed in the necessity for making those who resided abroad do their duty to their country, and he also quite agreed in the assertion, that if the landlords were to be compelled, that a great change would take place—such a change as would speedily make a ma nifest improvement in many parts of Ireland. But the Hon. Gentleman said that a tax should be laid on the absentee pro prietors. Now, he thought that the word tax was not a proper term to be applied to such an imposition as that which was now devised ; for if the imposition was to be levied on the proprietors of land in Ireland, he (Mr. Labouchere) conceived that it ought to be laid on all the property of the country, on all the land.—( Hear, hear.) But if such a tax were to be levied, it ought to be such an imposition as would compel the sale of the encumbered estates ; for he thought that it was a most unwise, a most un just, a most constitutional principle to pass law upon, that any man who possessed an estate in this country should be compelled to reside upon it. And if such a principle was in applicable to this country, it was equally inapplicable to Ire land. Such a principle would be as inconsistent with the political institutions of these two portions of the state, as it would be inconsistent with the social institutions of this coun try, and altogether inconsistent with the interests of the united empire. He did not know that he need detain the House longer on this Bill. He quite agreed with the Hon. Gentle man in the opinion which he had expressed, that there was a number of men at the present moment discharging their duties to the country in a most admirable manner, who were in no way interested in the soil, but he did not think that it was desirable, that a tax should be laid upon pro prietors in order to compel them to discharge their duty which, in consequence of the possession of property, they owed to their poor neighbours. This, he believed, was not a matter which it was the duty of the Ministry to settle, for they had done all that they could by introducing the measure for facili- , - dence—the sale of the estate—or else afford to the country e , means of relieving its distress. It could nut be said that there was anything new in this proposition. He had then a letter from a gentleman who had studied the history of legidati an of absentees, and had found that, even in the earliest ages impusts had been placed upon the property of non residents. During th e reigns of Henry the Third, Richard, and the th ree Edwards, very heavy taxes and fines were imposed upon absentees, and in one instance it was enacted that two-thirds of the land should be forteited. In the reign of Charles the First iustructions were transmitted to the Government to enact that all the nobility holding estates in Ireland were not to leave the country without the consent of the Government, unless employed by t h e England and abroad upon its bu s i ness . H e would ask the House if there was the smallest doubt that if oue.third of the rentals of the country were spent in other countries Parliament would at once interfere to check the evil. Property wa s not placed in the hands of any m an , w i t h out b r i ng ing with it certa in duties. Residence was one o f t h ose dut i es , an d ought to be enforced • and every well-minded and just man would at once recognise the principle. It was said. by some that if they im p osed a heavy tax upon th e proprietor they would take away from him the desire to exort himself. That was an old argument, which had been used against the poor-law, hut they would find it necessary to enforce those duties. It would then be said what was to be done with those proprietors who had pro perry in the two counties? He said that such proprietors could not possibly do their duties properly, and the Govern ment ought to facilitate the sale or exchange of estates, for the sooner such proprietors got rid of one or other of their estates, the better. It would then be asked, how were they to define residence? and in order to determine the residence necessary to render persons liable to the assessed tax in Ire land, the Act stated that a residence of six months out of the country should hinder them from payment of the tax. Such a principle would operate well as a test of residence under such an Act as he would wish to see in operation. If any error should arise on the subject of the time of residence, it would be easy to rectify it afterwards. He was not, how ever, prepared to say that this wculd be the best mode of levying the tax. He invited discussion on the subject, and he thought that some such machinery as he had stated could be easily applied. With regard to the amount of the tax he should propose that the minimum should he ten per cent., and it that were not found effectual it could he after wards increased. The proceeds could be applied to local purposes, or for the general purposes of education and relief of distress in the country. He should, he suppesed,be met by the stale argument which many Members of that House, and par ticularly the Right Hon. Member for Tamworth, used in attacking anything that appeared in the form of a resolution, merely because it appeared in that shape. Mr. H. M. TMI'E seconded the motion. He thought that something ought to be done to make the Irish .asellords subscribe to support the poor of Ireland. It was well known that many Irish, as well as English proprietors who held pro perty in Ireland, had totally neglected their duty, and failed in performing those services which were expected of them. Nothing could be more injurious to the measures passed by the Government for the relief of Irish distress than the absenteeism practised by so many Irish landlords. Great difficulty especially had been experienced in the working of the Labour Act fr im this cause. In seven or eight re l iefdis tricts in the county of Longford, there were a number of large absentee proprietors who ha i not subscribed a farthing to meet the distress. Out of the annual rental of the county, there was 16,0001., of which little or nothing had been returned in the shape of subscriptions. In the county which he repre sented, and in the relief district with which he was connected, the resident proprietors had subscribed 614'. The farmers of from sixteen to a hundred acres subscribed 671. 10s. With this, 240 persons had been employed. Now there were ab sentee proprietors belonging to England who drew 3,000!. a year out of the same district, and for a long time they subscribed nothing. At last, when it was threatened to expose them in the newspapers, they subscribed 18/. ( Hear, hear.) Of these proprietors, the principal was a London company. The mortgagees had not subscribed a farthing.—(Hear, hear.) In contrast with the proceedings of these parties, he would name the conduct of the Marquis of Lansdowne, Lord Palmerston, and the Earl of Devon, who had done everything in their power to meet the crisis, and to find employment for the people. He must say, generally, that the small absentee proprietors acted in a much worse manner than the large ones. He was firmly persuaded that if the money which was now spent out of Ireland by absentee landlords, was expended in the country, there would soon be a much better state of things. He was glad that. his Hon. Friend the Member for Limerick had brought forward this motion, because he felt convinced that absenteeism had been the fruitful source of all crime in Ireland. Alderman HUMPHERY said that he should not have at tempted to have risen upon that occasion, if a charge had not been made by the Hon. Member for Limerick upon certain companies with which he (Mr. Alderman Humphery) had the honour to be connected. If the Hot , . Member for Limerick had, in the first instance, given him notice that he intended to bring forward these charges, he (Mr. Humphery) should have been prepared with papers and documents which, he felt con• vinced, would prove to. the Hon. Member himself that he was mistaken in the conclusions he had arrived at, as far as re spected those companies. In the first place, then, the Hon. Member said that the whole of these companies held large properties in Ireland, from which they derived great rentals, without giving a corresponding advantage to that country He (Mr. Humphery) was sure that those companies did not spend one-tenth alone of their revenues in Ireland ; but he would venture to assert that they spent four fifths of their rentals in the improvement of their estates. The Irish Society, over which lie had the honour to preside, hart an income of from 9,0001. to 10,01.0 , . a year from estates in the neighbourhood of Londonderry. Well, they spent not less than 7,0001. of that money in education and religious in struction. —( Hear, hear.) The directors of the society never refused any application made by clergymen for the improve ment of their chapels. They never refused grants of money for the purposes of education.—( Hear, hear.) There were at least sixty schools which received annual sumo of money from the society, and, therefore, when the Hon. Member said that the London companies did nothing with their money but in vite Members of that House to dinners, and other entertain ments, he presumed that the Hon. Gentleman had not him self been so invited—(Laughter)—or he would have better understood hew their funds had really been expended. There were twenty-six members of the society, and among them they had only spent in treating (as the Hots. Member termed it) the gentlemen of that House, and in the necessary management of the company, 450/. a year.--(Hear, hear. ) He (Mr. Humphery) also belonged to another company which possessed a large property in the neighbourhood of Coleraine. from which they derived a revenue of 7,0001. a year. NVhy, the whole of the money derived from that property, and spent in London, did net amount to 3,000.., the rest had be. n spent in the improvement of their property in Coleraine. He pre sumed that the Hon. Member had travelled in the north of Ire land ; if he had, he would no doubt have ohserved that the London companies had progressed in improvements up to that moment. What would be the case if this income-tax were imposed? They would pay the minimum tax of 10 per cent., or the maximum tax of 20 per cent., but they would spend no more. The Hon. Member had referred to the Globe Office. The Globe, he said, received a rental of 300/. per annum, and did not spend a farthing in the country, nor aided in the so ,scriptions for the poor. He (Mr. Humphrey) sue posed that the Glebe had lent some money, and that they de rived this amount from a mortgage upon estates in Ireland. Now he did not think it was customary to ask gentlemen who lent money on mortgage to subscribe to the poor of a country tecause that mortgage happened to be held in that country. He really thought it would be better if Hon. Gentlemen in that House who held properties in Ireland would try to benefit the poor on these estates and in their ne:ghbourhood, instead. of bringing charges against others, which were e valu g a u b tt l e e unfounded. He thought it would be return to the House, if the house were to know a h money r o perties these gentlemen possessed in Ireland, properties. they had laid out in the improvement of those eyebyab.. and what ( Hear, hear.) With regard to the rentals rec / were returned for sentee ' landlords he (Mr. Humphery) believed that out (if the 4,000,0001. so received, at least 2,000,00 0 oh•") well, the improvement of their estates.—(Cries of un 'osition threw all he could say was, that the seconder of 1.) the arguments of the Hon. Member for who into the en who had given shade, fur he had named a number of nobleni Ireland to the trheLimroei. the whole of their money derived from Ire improve ment of their estates in that country. Mr. TUITE—OnIy one. man had men- Alderman HUNIPHER Y—The Hon. Gentle tioned more than one who had expended t he whole of their money in improving their estates. Mr. TUITE—Nis, no.--( Laughter.) Lord Cour . Alderman HUMPHERYS—He ment ioned - tenay— Mr. TUITE —No !—(Laughter.) rd the Member Alderman HUMPHERY—The Noble Lo for Tiverton, then— Mr. TUITE—Yes. ' o f Lansdowne — Alderman HUMPHERY—The M ar q uis • aughter.) Mr. TUI T E—Oh ! no , no !—( C ontinued l aken down who Mr. HUMPHERY—WeII , he h ad not t hered from the they were—(Laughter)—but he certainly ofathere Noblemen speech of the Hon. M e mber t h at many °g their estates. He spent a large amount of money in improving m ount of money should like to have a return , stating what a be found that they did thus lay out. He thought tha t it woulr h in improving t eir ore money was spent by absentee landlords more than by many of the resident proprietors, who did not spend their money so beneficially. Well then, the speech of the Hon. Member for Limerick amounted to this, that it was but fair thst the London Companies (not one of which had a mortgage upon their properties) should be put in comparison wit • h those gen t tleemecnouliwaho had mortgages upon their estates, ecause h y than those who were thus embarrassed d . spen d more money He (Jr. 1.1 Humphery) sh ou ld l i ke to know if two-thirds of the absentee landlor ds had mortgages upon their properties. He should say not. and therefore it was more likely that they would prove greater benefactors than those whose estates were mortgaged. The London Co m p anies an d the Irish Society did but not in giving dinners indeed spend money,to the Members of that House , and he trusted, therefore, th a t th e H on. Mem ber would admit that his chargefs were unfounded. If the Hon. Member had an estate,i withoegal magnitude, and ex • pended a sum proportionably them, in the education of aY instruction—building the poor—in giving religious religious population of houses, and supporting the in which they received their rents—if he and other Irish landlords did all this, they would find in Ireland a supe rior state of society to that which now existed. Mr. LABOUCH ERE said that the Hon. Gentleman, the Member for Limerick, in the commencement Of a speech, to the temperate and argumentative tone of which he (Mr. La bouchere) gave his mead of approbation ; the Hon. Gentle- man, in the beginning of his speech, said that he could not expect that the proposal which he was going to make to the House would receive the sanction of the English Members ; because, al hough the present state of ab senteeism was admitted to be a great calamit y , yet inasmuch as the m oney lost by Ireland was gained 1y this country, he could not expect that English Members would agree to his motion. He (Mr. Laboueliere) assured the Hon. Member that if he resisted his motion it was not on that ground, for no man was more convinced than he was that nothing that tended to impoverish Irela n d was consistent with the interests of the United Kingdom-_l Hear, hear)—and if he had thought that the Hon. Gentleman had proved his ca e. he should at once have consented to the introduction of his measure, not only on the ground that it would assist. Ireland, but because he felt that what benefited Ireland would be also of advantage to this country. The Hon. Gentleman had re• ferred to ohj ctions that were sometimes made to propositions of this sort, because they were not brought - shape of specific measures, but embodied in ht inthe general resolutions. He (Mr. Labouchere) he shared in the distke that the confessed that obMember had attributed to the Bight Hon. Baronet thelllember for Tamworth, to receiving measures in the shapes resolutions ; but the Hon. Gentleman who had brought of forward general rd this question hail done so with so much moderation, o h r a a d a so fairly and so explicitly stated his views upon the subject, that he had wily supplied whatever was ambiguous in th resolu tion itself. He told them that he wished the House to sanction this principle, that it would not be possible for any one to hold roperty in England and Ireland.--(Hear, hear.) He even went further, he would even prevent the possibility of a person holding property in different parts of Ireland itself. He (Mr. Labouchere) did not believe that the Government of any country, in any degree forward in civilization — ho did not believe that any nation would adopt prin ciples and opinions so destructive of improvement. as those of the Hon. Gentleman. With regard to the question of absenteeism, he (Mr. Labouchere) was not one of ...as tney could by introducing tire ..._ 'Y - tating the sale of encumbered estates. He could not assent to landlord, who spent his income in Ireland should be taxed the assertion of the Hon. Gentleman that such a Bill was ne- likewise. He. therefore, felt great difficulty in giving his sup. cessary for the protection of property in Ireland; and, be- port to a proposition which propised to lay a tax upon the pro lieving that it would be inconsistent alike with the interests prietors of land in one country which was not to be It vied of this country and Ireland, if the Hon. Member pushed it to a on proprietors in this eauntry, who resided ~ f f their property or division, he should certainly vote against it.. out of the country. The evidence winch had bee,' adduced on Sir A. BROKE thought that the amount of the tax ought the subject of abs:enteeises proved that many of the to be expended ou the property from whence the money was absentee landlords of IrsLind utterly neglected their estates; derivec. Two years ago when this measure was before the but he was acquainted with instances in which the estates of House, he had recommended that a tax. not of 10, but of 15 non-resident proprietors were well cultivated, well managed, or 20 per cent., should be levied on the properties of absentee and on which the poor found employment, but no man ought proprietors, and spent in subsoiling, draining, fencing, build- to neglect his dory in Ireland, and reside in a distant part of it. mg task houses and cottages for labourers, and other improve- as well as in England. He was in favour of the lan 'l o rd. of ments on the several es'ates, for the benefit of those who were Ireland being compelled to support their own poor, but he was located upon them. He thought that such a measure would afraid the proposition would not have that effect ; sod b sides, have been far better than that which the Government had would be fraught with evil. He biped, therefore his Hun. brought forward for the relief of the poor, and if such a tax Friend would not press the motion to a d vision. were to be imposed he would readily vote for it: nor would he Mr. S. O'BRIEN explained, that what he stated respecting be at all inclined to limit the amount.—( Hear, hear.) But the estates of the Irish Society was riot derived trim iitrsonal there was one thing that he could not agree with in one point inspection, but from the evidence which had been published of the speech of the Hon. Member for Limerick, and that was, wish respect to them. He believed, however, that their estates that no gentleman should be ahowed to hold property in Eng- were well managed. In mentioning the nasae of Lord Port land and Ireland it the same time, for such a rule would arlington and other proprietors of Ireland, he 'list' aimed hav in effect amount to practical repeal of the union. Nor ina, introduced them for the purpose of drawing any invidious could he asset' to the assertion tis. all the English proprietors distinctions between them and of her proprietors He felt it. ,Yere to be considered as absentees, for the Duke of Devonshire, his duty to take the sense of the House on the motion which he Earl Fitzwilliam, and Colon.l Wyndham, who all pos-eased had proposed. large properties in Ireland, went over constantly and expended 'I he House then divided, when there appeared, large sums in the improvement of their estates. Such men he For the motion never could consent to consider as absentee proprietors. Lute Against it thsse were the exceptions, for he knew and could name several Majority . ... —5l who drew large sums from the country who had Never been SMITHFIELD MARKET near their este es for thirty to thirty.tivc years together. tet Mr. 0. GORE moved for a Select. Committee to inquire spent their money on the Continent or in England, without into tl e necessity for the removal of Smithfield Market, as a any thought of the duties which they had to discharge to the nuisance, in the centre of the British metropolis, to some ap peasantry who were resident in Ireland, Several of these in- pro a riate site, comprising an area of not less than 12 acres, dividuals had been applied to in the present distress, and had and the establishment of abbatoirs in the vicinity of London. sent over 51. or something of that sort. But this was not to be He had obtained the consent of all the persons whose interest wondered at, for it was impossible for them to see, and therefore would be affeoted. to feel, the distress and destitution that now pervaded the Lord MORl'lati said that there was room for great im land. Yet, after all, it was not the want of the money provement, for he believed that there remained undeniable that should be expended on the estates so much as the deprive- grsunds of complaint. The safety of life was much enetan tion of a resident gentry. That was a necessity which no gered, as was also the health of the inhaletants. He wss money could supply, especially the want of the influence which very glad that the interested parties did not oppose the inquiry , was likely ofely t t o he be hi e g a k e e r r oversseecisleads.ln the ite o l l n i minds o 1 all classes by t h e an d he could assure the Hon. Member that there was still a under tbose the e,, bo present were less s i a e le i intention nbfsw o a n y the H sari. of hoped d e h a e Governmentdue igweight w G t i o u h t i h threw any iven o b i n calamity, he knew s everal instances whereresident had dis ingutshed themselves by their exertions in the Committee to the interest of the parties concerned. behalf of the poor, frequently to the loss of health, and in sir. S. O'BRIEN said he was very glad that his Hon. some cases to the loss of life itself. One instance he could Friend had pursued the course which he had done ; and as he name where a lady had fallen a sacrifice to the benevolent had not entered into the question, he would follow the example exertions in behalf of her neighbours. Disapproving therefore set him. He only hoped that a fair Committee would be sp as he did of the principle of the Hon. Member for Limerick, pointed. he should yet, in the event of his dividing the House, vote for Mr. WAKLEY was rejoiced that the Government did it; not, as he said, because he agreed with him entirely, but not.not oppose the motion, for he considered it most necessary because he believed that it would blirg about something that some irquiry should be made. He was requested to op. which might be instrumental in the removal of are =t evil, pose the motion, but after what had been stated, he could not a Mr. BELLEW could not agree in t h e s position that the think of doing so. absenteeism was the ma i n cause o f the evils l )to which Ireland Mr. PROTHEROE said that some arrangement should be was now subject, for the misery was suffered not from the want made respecting the days upon which fairs were held. Under of a resident gentry—though he was very far !ruin und-rrating the present system, the drovers were not able to attend re that benefit—but it was the want of confwence in the expendi- liglous worship upon Sundays, in consequence of the Men tore of capital, and in the consequent want of enterprise in that day's fair. country. This, he thought, would be relieved by the intro us- Mr. HUAIPHERYS said that if the market was removed, two and enforcement of a i roper pour-law, for such alone the cattle, in future, would not be driven through London. would have the effect of causing the sale of encumbered es'ates, Mr. HENLEY wished the Government to take the matter and would occasion a greater distribution of property than any entirely into their own hands. It it was left in those of a private which now prevailed, and the whole benefit of which would Member they would have only some half and half measu-e. ultimately come to the tillers of the soil. Something of this Sir B. HALL thanked his Hon. Friend for Winging forward kind had been 1 irmerly attempted, but it had failed, from 'he the question, and he hoped the interest of the inhabitants peculiar circumstances under which the country lab used. would be studied by the committee. [here was the aaent, the middle-man, the farmer, and the Mr. ORMSBY GORE :aid that he could assure the Noble cottier, all demanding subsistence from tha roil. and Lord that he would take the interests of all parties into con the consequence was, that there was a continued sideration when he was appointing the committee. drain upon the land, of which no one got any- :11r. (aIIFsENE proposed that the number of acres should be thing like an adequate banefit. By the sale 4.f estates, omitted in the tta iding of the resolution. which a poor-law would oblige, the whole of this evil would be Mr. ORNIS'HY GORE objected, as less than twelve acres done away with. But far as he was therefore from ascribing would be wholly insufficient. the present miseries to this one mischief of absenteeism, or The motion was then agreed to. supposing that any single remedy would suffice to place Ireland THE CASE OF MR. O'NIEARA. in a state of prosperity, for he believed that it would require a Lord LINCOLN said that soon after the commencement of series of measures for that purpose, he yet was by no means the present session he had brought wider the notice of the inclined to screen those who in this time of distress had re- House the petition of Mr. O'Meara. He hoped that Hon. trained from doing their duty t o th e i r t enan t s . U n fortunat e ly G en tl emen h a d rea d th a t p e titio n a s it would save him much he knew personally of several instances where individuals troutae in explaining. In the course of last session a Bill by drawing several thousand pounds a year had sent such a paltry affectiog friendly societies was broug ht sum towards the subscriptions raised for the distressed poor, M was after wards ember for Finsbury. That Bill o int-, that the committees had been inclined to threaten to publish and s e t a m up to the Upper House , where the _ ,node the Hon. vested in the their letters and their names. If an absentee tax were to be ment for the Commissioners was altered Reduction of the introduced by the counsel , and imposed it ought not, he should say, to be limited to h an d s of the Commissioners for the ten, or fifteen, or even twenty per cent , for in his opinion National Debt• A c lause was in eof a a m pp ended it shauld at least be fifty per cent. of the amounts drawn for the Home-office tr from the estates in Ireland, none of which were ever spent in of the offices in t the hands of the Commissioners of r that country. But he would repeat, that it was not absen- the ot ' t'er iner appointmentsconfirm the present from fnholtvleerssf teeism that was at the root of the evil , but the want of confi- the National Debt. The Bill, as thus amended. in e dance in enterprise, and, until that was removed, none of the House of the L ords on the Bth of June, and te6pthasosefdJiuhl; capital which Ireland produced would be spent fez . its ins- the present Governmentfimed entered upon their offices. On the provement. The Hon. Gentleman then read an extract from strength of being co a work of Dr. Taylor's, to show that an aggregate of held for fo ur years,antidr in the appointment which he had irarnconnftse(qeuenfncre obfolh.ispienrcraenasnendind,utainead, 2,000,;001. was annually drawn from Ireland to be invested in Mr. O'Meara rkented The Treasury, for two months a ft e r the English Funds. While such an evil as this continued , no engag ed a cler tax on absentee proprietors could ever occasion a proper- the friendly societies. On the I Ith of tiotrate remedy.thesethe Act, recognised Mr. O'Meara written from the Treasury to Mr. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said the real cause of the present August a letter , another letter was aadressed to him, stet at h s e a registrar passiag off f It had suppressed her manufactures, and made her people de- in tw .b o at rlib a state of Inland was the want of a resident landsd pr e prietary. (yaleara. co .f n is tar f, i e w n r rinstructions in reference to his office ; and pendent upon agriculture. When that branch of indus- j firmed,ing ' in consequence of the omission of the clause, which Gen try was depressed, the landed interest became depresseds subsequently seq b uently passed by the Lords, on the first passing of with it, and induced them to resort to a system of a n objection existed to his appointment being cen wthae Bill in the Lower and Upper Houses. Another letter over populating their land, in which they had been encouraged was by a Mr. Connor, a private friend of the Attorney-General they had rich and wealthy customers to support them. sufficient for Ireland. He should be able to prove, on reference to the in by that House. Manufactories would revive in Irel l a t ndif informed hint that his office had been filled up not for want of capital, because of that there was But were Act, that this appointment was most unjust and impolitic. even in the present depressed state of the count t ry . was it possible displaced, were rather equivocal, but it was evident from the on the question. Th is nw_ h n e . r l e ish w . ould be The words in the 10th clause, upon which Mr. O'Meara was Give context that no ground whatever existed for his dismissal. t n ti n a t r e tn rn capital for to o t . be T bis was embarked self-evident, in manufactures for b that Irish manufactories could compete with E Ireland, however, a resident . landed proprietary, g and then The Noble Lord then cited the ich ohpaidniboenenofeollmlre. tNoabpyiear,lltihg. w•ho b w a b r i r e i b ste b r e , as fu rttobetrhesnill.lrengratleidty byof ttbliee reading! remo v al of o severalNl r. O'Meara, 'Aie sectionsa ra ROW invested their money in Governmentt inducements and for capitalists, n th ere securi- there would be customers and inelucemen 'his Hon. Friend, the Member for Limerick, With regardtherefore, h t e o v, ti a le s f . r . o a rn s tb th e e n A p c in t i o on f , P i st ie rliaz , nt w b b earing motion of • support it. Ireland was a country which had most legal authority. He thought, therefore, that the • inclined to . le removal of •of absenteeisn. The word Mr. O'Meara and the appointment of Mr. C ties, to revive manufactories. h rly suffered 'tom the evils Connor was an illegal pece ia . absenteeism itself had its origin, as adopted in the English act, or, if not illegal, a direct contravention of the intent' o f ion had its I tile Legislature,which language with Ireland. It existed even when Ireland of such officers l Parliameut, and why did it so exist a Why, because as these , Le made dependent on the change of own P I t was held in great subjection by I Government. It was not only a proceed' • ' the Irish ar iamen I proceeding against the inten- Englan , d a-id ail measures for the improvement of Irish mom- . tams of Parliament, which was to obtain officers of experience and but it was factures were overuled by the same power. Gradually, how- ability, most unjust in the present instance to the ever, in latter times, these restrictions were reraved.from Irish individual wko had been removed. Having said thus much, he 2:21 nl.~`r