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_ PARLIAINIENT , trhe' Dente in the Lords, on the Catholic Ques tion., will be found in our subsequent columns.] TiotTsE OF COMMONS, FiAbilf, MAY 16. On the question that the Trttio Railkeity Bill Report he re ceived, some conveisatirM arose, and it division afterwards to o k piaci .` The numbers were even, 79 on each skie; on which the S l ieill‘er gave his vete- in favour of the ayes. Lord LASCELLES brought in a Bill to mars the Pro prietors of Leail Minims liable to the Poor Bates.--Read. to first time, ordered to be reed a second time on T'riday next, end to to. printed. `111(,. Report at the London Onagers' Bill was read and aesTed to. " • • SAVING.BANKS. On the motion that the Report of the Saving Banks Bill lie Ternenuitted," neiteral THORNTON ex prevad the hope that the Bill io/Onld not he allo,ed to proceed any farther; at. all events !rat theliononrable Mover of .it (Mr. Rose) would withdraw it for the presort' SesFien. The measure, as it now stood, Navin to impose an expencr.on the puhlic,.stid to Oust lie,ceuld fist agree. `Nlr. ROSR was surprised at , this opposition. ':Only three rOitious bad been_ presented against the 13111, namely, ft l om the iiaeishes of St; Paul, Norwich; and Hereford; and those Petitioners,. he lied every reason to believe, were new ivatislied with the rim. Bill was then recommitted, in which the several Weeks were filled tip,, after remarks.from Mr. Lamb, Mr. Phillips, Mr, Brotieltani, Sir C.'. Monek, Mr. Dietentrou, , Mr. HuAis soe, Mr. G. Bose Sir 3. Newport, chiefly on the mode of securing the farads of the S.l‘..itig Bauks, smite being in favour of an investure in the Public Funds, anti others for security iti Excliegner Rills. On the Clauses- being proposed,• whiclv provided that bonus should be given to those persons who, for a certain number of years, shall contgibote to Savings Batiks without TcCeiving , any parish 'relief ;: arid. to enable 'Magistrates to' order parish relief "tit SliClf petsonsin case they should he re.- duccd to much a state as to tequire it, although they might bare in the Savings Batik it deposit to a certain amount, tip. Mr. RHANlroppcised tbesteClensetti -because he thought the In ioeiple of them ohjectiodahle. But efen if it was not allowed that the priocipie.sens bad, It must be allowed that 014 was not the proper occalion for such an eitactinent, as it would - come more regularly tinder the attention of the House de! lug. the, discrission on the Report of the Committee for the -revision of the Poor Lews. Mr. BARCLAY spoke shore.y in favour of these Clause'. Mr. lICSKISSON defended the Chi I ISV3 on the ground that re they %%lict tend to encourage a spirit of erut.tality oftti induct cky..epeog the Poor. He contended that the only radical re niedy for the defeos of Abe present system of ottr Poor Laws, wets to he found in instilling into the minds of the lower classes the necessity of industry and frugality.—lie teaching them the means by which they could look forward to their lattice entofort, froth the savings of their present wages. It would he with the uteueSt ret ref that he would Sec these Clauses re jected, because he was fitutly convinced that they would have the Most lietteficial elects. Mr, PHILLIPS spoke ,agaitigt, the, Clauses. If it were thooght proper to introduce . Ciausei of this hind, it might be et some ((dare time.' In the present Bill , they were Certainly nut of lilac°. Mr. C. tilt ANT, jun. thought that the effect of the Clauses ivould he, to do awiy willi the great evil of the Poor Laws, by evialsieg ti distinction between the virtuous and the vicious poor. After a fe - N word, out several other Members, for and m a;. - ,,imosi ese('Emirs, !ter. litiOrt;!lAM said, that he wont(' consent to the clause r{ liirh ;Mowed Magistrates to order pariah relief. to persons Lai leg jo SAvingii i Baas, under the circumstances men tioaed in time cfttnbe. Rut as to the clause which went to the Sayment of a banns out of the poor rates to contrihotort to arings' Banks, who ' should not have received parisli relief for a certain thee, be objected to it eittirely. Its effect was to divert the poor rates to a porpose for, which they pad never yet b eu n a1p:41.-11;1100y, to those whow.eve not twitters, and who did nurneed relief from. the parish. On this last Glatise he was i:esoleed to take the sense of the Coin tuitteee Mr. WILTIF,IIPORCE" spoke shortly in favour of the clamor, einioexerine parish relief t., lion. who hail a small slow in is Savnip , 7.lietili; lust expressed considerable doubts au to the other clause respectiog the bonus, ' • The elaese, alloWing (treed to receive Parochial 'Relief, was theri av'eert to„ clantm for giving them a Premiaut was nei.otived Witlinat a division. The other clauses were agreed to, and the Report wag or liered to he received on Morttlay.: The Committees of Supply and Ways and Means were post poned till , Sir W. Illlliit tVES postpont'd his Motion respecting Vo- Prticers in Irchoil till Thursday. FINLAY mored for. Accounts of thcquentity of Linen deported Rum Cereal Britain, and imported into ; Great Bri tain, from Irelatol, in id.—Ordered. ' The farther'eonsideratiim of the LISaryLaNSE Bill was post poned till Friday, the rinth inst. . Lord EIIItINGTON, oil heltiar of Sit ;rattles Nrisaillt." l ). pastpimed his motion relative to the Droits of Athoiraltyfrom Prlondaptill Thursday. The Report of the Committee on the Sugar BoutityActs was brought up, the Resolutions were agreed to, and a fill ordered. f.,ord.PALMERSTON moved for Returns of the effective strength of the 13r1tists Army at home and ahroad.—Or derid. CLERGY RESIDENCE BILL. On the motion of Mr. MANNERS SUT'T'ON, for the House to go into a Committee on Ws Bill, Mr. BABINOTON objected to the general principles of the BM, on the ground that it would not answer the great end intended by it It did nut adequately provide fur the evil of non-residence, and still left the Clergy'at the mercy of the informers. took a view of the number of non-resi dents fur a series of years, and said be was happy to find that the number of residents had materially increased within the last year. 11 regretted that the Bill had . no clause to pro mote residence t but he must leave the remedy to abler hands: be could not say that be had any hope from. the Bill before the Home its to the general principle. Sir W. SCOT on seconding the motion forthe Commit _ toe, traced the regolatitins resp',:cting residence front the time of Uvri y It was an anomaly, tie said, to suppose that thn ado; oistration of an Episcopal Chu►uh was not in the hands Of the Bishops. The actions brought by the common informer Mere never received by the taw with much countenance, as they were httown to arise trout malice, partly from farmers, ch-tnrifled ahout their tithes, and partly with a view to obtain gooney by ;pi taut actions. It was mare than ever necessary to itivest the Bishops with the powers which this Act proposed to give them, since they had hero so much ealinnniated fur - not stoLoeing resv4lence, In a country tike this, where there svere such a ocotillo- Of poor livings, there must of necessity be pluralities, and of consequence ncovresidence. Let us, said the Learned tientlikinitit, do the best we can, not theoreti c:ally, htte according to,existing circumstances, to render the Dilt Otto:Oat. Lord EititINGTON contended, that the number of non fesislents had ant been materially diminished hy the former it' 4010 Right }lull. arid Learned Gentleman, and he was ;t the present BM would be equally ineffectual, by placing so notch power in the hands of the Bishops, of either Ctiforeing residence or exputpting from it. lie would .not oppose the Committee, as be was anxious to hear their "Mr. PICKENSCYN said there were not less than ttool liv ings under 801, a . y ear, .and therefore how IV4I pu*Sible to anforcesevidenett ? 'Cteneritl TVOICSTON said, if the Clergy were incompetent to enforce resideoce, the laity ought to be called in to assist them. ' The 'Muse then went into the Committee. file. M. '‘'il.Trrox argued in favour of the clanse for re etritining the Clergytnan from the occupationof more than do SCre.; with which (timidity lie proposed to till up the Mr. DICKENSQN. isas a4ainst this limitation, the qoantily beio,r sortie rinintiei worth little in nothing. lie Woold propose n compeesation of al. or 701, a year than any titiodier of acres. le propo.ed, as an- amendment, to fill up the I.l3ith with thti value of 1901. per annum. Colonel 'WI mit ithservet4 that the Welsh Clergyinen Were tiiiieh alarmed at the clause of the Bill last year, for restrain ing tlooo farming as much land iss'therpleast d. Lie thought the elatise loath pajnit and impolitic. 74r. M. htirroN eNplained that the Clergyman was 00 cut down to the fifty aerqs, hot might hare as much more land as be entail art ti RertutO for. ,If restraint was to.exist, one t imid not be pe,sessed than that of this clause. qtr wYNNE observed, that the ancient principle of the )., w sea. intended to-pt.eront lhe Clergy from making money to• inn : at :mg in secular affairs. 1!r argued in favour of fixing e disco etion in the ilishop to restrain any Clergyman from Ismiing wore Owl IWI. a year. If he rented wore, it must retPlive a aeCeAe of Attention ine,in.isttnt with Lit et *C:11 dote. Mr. COVItTENAV thought, ;1 the clause was to stand, the least obiectionable mode Would be to insert . fifty acres ; but he was 'rather for omitting it altogether, because he could not see the evil agaiest which it was intended-to provide. titird MlLTPkprojroseii that the chum should state fifty acres, unless the annual value of the laud should be'untlet 3001. a-year. Said s .the whole object of_the clause was to take off, and not to add restvaints, and therefore the &atm of the Clergy, as stated by the Hon.Culenel, was unfounded. ' Dr. PHILLIMOLtE was in faebor bf limitatinp to a cettain Ottbaber of acres. -.Put be objected to that part the.clause that respected the recovering of the penalty, as thee,: was no provision for the disposal of it. The clause would go to the txtent of introducing a new jurisdiction. Mr. B. RATHITRST defended the principle of allowing ' the clergyman to fthm laud, if it did not proceed to sire!' an extent as to interfere with his duties, beyond which he was of opinion it ought out to go. He agreed that the fifty acres were sufficient. It was not necessary for a clergyman to oc cupy so Much land assn become a farmer. Mr. DAVENPORT disapprfived pi the clause. Sir T. .CLAM) thought the chalice would he taken as an approbation of the Clergy tubing to another trade as a matter Of profit. It would be a source of competition and - jealousy betweeo the Clergyoum and the Parishioners. Mr.W. against the clause, on the sa me grounds es the preceding spetiliers. lint he made sooty poiatrd obser yations on the reproachful conduct of certain. Clergymen in Essex, s:2spectinv tythtes, , TArd , PALNIEItSfON was also understood to lie against the clause. A division took filament an Amendment proposed by; Lord EItRINGTON, to • leave out certain words which authorised Clergymen to hold farms.. For the Amendment 35 Against it us Majority in favonr of the clause as it stood in the Bill.. a A cynrersation emitted on the number Of acres with which the blank was to be filled tip. Lord - Ebrirwon 'rat under stood to propose 50 acres, and Mr, Bathurst MO. gal lery was agajri cleared fur a division, but it did liotfake place, 'the number heing'agteed twbe . ixed at SO. • • A desultrojr &hate:envied on almost every other clause of the Bill, and many verbal itmendinr , nts were introduced. • Mr..M.•.A. TAYLOR declared himself a decided enemy to the power given to the Bishops.and said he should watch the 'progress of the Bill Most narrowly. • The CHAIRMAN•at length reported progress, and asked leave to sit again on Monday. The third reading of the Lottery Bill was postponed till Monday. • Mr. D. GILBERT bronglit up the Third Report of the Committee on Public Income and Expenditure, which was ordered to lie on. the table and' be.printed. Mr..LOCKBARI' postponed the,..farther consideration of the It:►ntc rnptcy A mendinent. Bill lilt the fith of June. Adjourned at ONE O'CLOCK till Monday. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, MAY 16. Bailey's Divorce 13111 was read a third time, ant rassedr Lord GlieNvtwt.presented e petition from cer tain merchants and bankers, inhabitants of Brit tat, against extents in aiti.-- , Gaitt ott. the table. UNIVERSITY PETITIONS. The Duke Of Gt.ontaS•rett preiented a petition froldtke Univirsity of Cambridge against tirt,iCa tholic :Claims; His Royal Highness . stated,' that though his name, in consequence of the high office which be held in that University, appeai.eil at the head of the pet.ition, yet he by no weans coneorred in the prayer of it, t • The petition was then read; and stated, in sub stance, that the petitioners saw no reason to be lieve that the sentiments'and principles of the Ito. man Catholics were at all changed ; that tbey were not conciliated by past concessions ; and that nothing would satisfy them but a.COmpliance %yitir.,6oo . ,..tyhich would anclertnine the securities of the .Protestant . . • , • .Lord CiitEwvlLLE presented n' petitr3n to the same effect hoax the 'University of Oxfor• 3 l. _. Both petitions were laid on the table. ; CATIIOLIC CLAIMS'. The Order of the Day, ott which their Lord ships' were suntMoned, being'read, The Earl of DpNOUGH'kORIt rose.r-lt was his duty now to call iheir Lordships' attention to the petitions from their Catholic fellOwsebjects which lay on their table. Ile bad presented two peti tions, one of which was front the general ,body of the Irish Catholics, in the *sent , Session ; and he had presented two other petitions last Sessio . n, one, from the Nobility and others, who _ heti thought proper to petition separately, and the other from theirish Catholic Prelates and Clergy. It bad been intimated to him by some of those who, signed the 'former petition, that they wet e desirous to have it now hrooght under considera 7 tipn I and the Prelates and Clergy bud .sent over two most respectable individuals, selected f rom their body, to give every information in their power to the members of the two [louses of Parliement, and lend ell the, aid which they could give to the furtherance of-,noy measure of relief which Parlia ment might think 'it proper to entertain. It was clear, therefore, that the Prelates and Clergy were desirous that the subject, Of their petition should be considered. When their Lordships had the whole body of the Irish Cetholies, ecclesiastical and lay, „ , peerandpeasintoll Joining in onepetti Km that their claims might at length he considered, and TOW given from thOse disabilities to which they were subjected ; be stood there the representative, t h oug h an inadequate one, of the whole body of his Catholic Countrymen, claiming on their be half, that they ahould at length be admitted t o th e freedom of the Constitution; and the rights and privilegesol.British subjects. In calling their at tention to these petitions of no entail Pert of - the population of these kingdoms, it was his wish to abstain from' all generality ; and instead of resting their claims upon. the triumphant ground of their merits, he, would rather advocate their cause by refuting, the ealuninies with which they, had been loatled. • Never had the Catholics been Its'. sailed with more vinlenee „anrl AcritnottY then at the present moment,- as their Lerdships must b e aware of, from what had passed in both nottses of Parliament, as well as from what had Appeared in the public press—a press ‘vhielt was free, and be hoped still would continue .free—the authentic recorder of the opinions and pf iociples of public men ; notwithstanding the extraordinary crusade to which a Noble Secretary of State had exposes{ it, by subjecting it to the footrool of every Ma, glitrate and Justice of Peace, in the mann er stated in the circular letter, for every sentiment and opinion of which these Nagistretes. alight not upprove—qUear, hear !).--,and thus constituting himself, through the medium of the Magistr a t es , a Sort of licenser of the press on all subjects, ee.. ligions and political. The question never came before them tinder greater irritation of !he public Mind than ttt this moment. The Catholics lied to complain, that they had been most grossly Calum nlateil,, and that, while their claims. were refused, they themselves had been most cruelly Maligned. Lie himself, and probably others of their Lord. t ' i;;t B ; hita. receivc(hracts, writt4ti andiniblished agAinst (he Catholics, that mighejniike the hatr of any liberal man stand on ind. ,One woofl think that the ohjeCt was to false the riot' 'Of 1783. The sufferings of Protestant martyrs were represented in pictures, and the Pope and Priest? expressing satisfaction at the tortures which these martyrs endured. Ti-is was not a fair and candid manner of meeting the petitioners. Every engine, had been set to woili to prejudice the public mind against the unfortunate Catholics, whose cause he advocated ; and he Was sorry to say, that the means' adopted to injure them with the public had not been without success. It va s not merely of th e exertions- ou t o f d oors for that Object, that he had to complain. With - all due respect to the Noble Lord on the wool-sack; he imht say, that he had contributed to this result. The Noble Lord had risen from the woolsack the other tlay, and with alt the authority which-he longed to his lligh situation and unblemished:cha racter, and with extraordinary warmth, called the attention of theix lordships to this question, as one which concerned the very vitals pi the Con stitution. -The Noble Lord must have meant a great deal by that expression, for it was not Lis custom to speak without meaning, anti his mean ing must have been thistbat all those who sup ported the Catholic Claims were adOcates for measures which would lubvett the Constitution. The Loan CtraNdELLon.—lle rose to order. With the most sincere respect for the•NobleEarl, he must remind him that he only stated an opi. ' Ilion which he hart ever conscientiously held, and in which he was the more confirmed the more he considered the subject. That opinion be was bound to state and to support, but with a desire that the most liberal tokerkttion should be given to all religious persuasions. if the Noble Earl thought that he meant to prejudice the debate of this night, be assured, the Noble Earl that he tneant Stith thitnt. The Earl of DostononmOai said, that wit!) the highest deference to the knowledge and authority of the Noble and Learned Lord, he was not quite satisfied that this interruption: accorded with the rides of order its debate. He willingly received the explanation 'of the Noble and Learned Lord, respecting the observation of a former night, bat with his strong conviction and.his acute feeliogs upon this subject, the Noble and Leaved Lord must find himself its a most painful situation, ob liged to sit in Council, and advise the Sovereign, iu concert • 's:ith men whom he must,. consider as attacking the vitals of the Constitution, he (Lord D.) meant, if .their views were carried into effect. Ueder all .those circumstances, he feared at the :present for the success at the petitiooers. But he !witted farviard with - confidence to the (lay—a day which he trusted would soon arrive, when a liberal, a rational, and a successful hearing would be given to their claims.--:-(Hear !)—ft WAS not quite methodical for him to cuter then into the points of :arrangement, which more properly be• longed to the House in Committee, if the Committee shenitt, be agreed to. Perhaps, however, it would be practically convenient that-be abould then enter into those - matters—he meant Me securities which the p%titiouers were ready to concede. These seen rities,.as far us 1141 collected froM the public press, had great influence on the public mind in its judg •inent on this question', There was first the se curity ot dometic nomination—secondly, that which wits known under the "name of `a veto; AtOct thirdly, the payment of the Catholic Clergy. Much blame was' imputed to the Catholics, be eauie they 'refused to accede to the proposition, and tire security of domestic . nomination was de clared, to be..eo illusion. He was at a loss to conceive why this should be considered an illusory pledge.. Had we not he would ask, the strong groupd of our experience to judge its efficiency Domestic nomination was no new mode suggested now for the first time.. It was, with very few exceptions, the established *practice in Ire- land for several years.- 7 (Hear, hear!)---It was: said the Pope had voluntarily offered a con cordat to sanction the former arrangement by the granting of a veta. He begged their Lordships to consider the peculiar state of Ireland, with re ference to this arrangement. Did the Irish Ca.; tliolics, in thisyespeet, stand in the same position as those of England ? By no pleat's. England was go veined directly and ,by principals, whilst Ire. land was ruled by a Deputy Administration. — What would be the state of the Irish Catholics thus ruled by deputy, if - they abandoned the independence of their religiOn to the Govern ment ? How would the affairs of their. Church be administered ! not by the Noble Lord Lieu, tenant Or his Secrete' y, who would employ them selves alone upon.eivil affuirs._ The ecclesiastical affairs of the Catholics would be left to some per , son who thought only of making fine, or at least . long ,speeches, in either Muse—to some second or third rate clerk from the Costle-yardin Dublin. What was, on the other hand, to be feared from the Catholic Clergy, if entrusted with what they already exercised—domestic trominatioo I lie ' well knees how - tneelt-was.doa to OM loyalty zeal of those'respectable persons during times of peril in Ireland. At one period lre believed, that without them public order and legal government could not have been maintained, Why Was it now determined to destroy, the union between them . and the people? He was against having the Ca tholic Clergy paid by the State, and would not Sever them from, the people for the purpose of uniting them with an y civil authority whatever.themselveshey were theselVes .averse frooi this sort of remuneration, . n od ivi s he•l ' abide by the. fruit o f t h e i r own services in the perform anee of their duties, Ile therefore coalft not, and would not, offer that security, vix. WY' ing the Catholic Clergy paid by- the State , as the price of their emancipation. lie had, m WY:, ever, a measure to propose i n t h e C om mittee, agreed to —a direct and practical security, %Olio' would at once give equal lib erty to t h e C a tholic, and quiel 11)6 feari of those who might be alarmed foe the established Church. He would throw open to the Catholic every office in the Statannder Protestaut Government, reserving; only to Protes tants the exclusive patronage, administration, and unthaity of the Protestant Chord) ;- and giving , t the same time, and in thill'arite Matinee, to C a : tboliefi, the exclusive admioistration of the, ' r Church. He begg e d o f th e i r Lorships to consider well the su bj ect of that night's debate--not. aii only acid latyhael freedom of rune millions of gno 4 . subjects, but their eOtigieltreS, Lli their Lordships remember tholeroporti of till Protestant to the Catholic ppYouldthei Lordship's maintain the domination, no longer ne cessary. and therefore no lougerjust, of one milliu and a ball over the rest of l ie H ouse to 1 nition i H e ,T I quested the attent ion of the g thi l , portant subject, foci`he sake of the subject, ill for the speaker. —C e'Cliancellor tlisclsinted I least disrespect ' or inattention to the Noble Birl ' He heard it nrgerl that the Catholic Clergy we zea l ou s lei their dh!y, and therefore the 614101 the petitioners should be refused. This orgemeni I render e e e n . c taietl would rseo tn 1 II e c e 1 others, s n : , f . dangerousee s r s e , ze at s t etted o ii:i it, citizen i t ei the s f ,s. , . ..t p t 7 (; r f i o s naI I I %; e l . ii ' l l even a sacred datv, they most he themselves, PI gear, lio r Rut the fact was, and bc sPok e I t ' vitt ,' re i n gr ig that the Catholic Clergy had not this " °lll l l p over the minds of the people--tinfortunafe(ig.t that eotintil.—forwitenevo they hid csetcise influence, be appealed to the loiowletige e vi l 1 1 the Noble Lords oppcsite, whettter their we i, was n ot uniformly thrown into the scale of lal t A! and good order. Beettes public fttactiototits.l4,l, had proyed most useful. the State. Ai° 111 .. , 1 y ; urged, that if-the Catholic Cl::r4y were we lo the feelings of men --they must hate tl.cYtoTri Onvernment, which imposed upon theta tiler code. Even admitting the fact, woulti, it fl reason for perpetutiting this odiou s c °d , e :,hatte l tact was not so ; and, as he had alresq-01,01 the Catholic Clergy bad .yecivoiS 61010'00 in the hour of doubt and clanger. T ie nt po lion of implacable hatred to the Prot"lse go blishment was a grtlss perversina ("1 l ' ir 0 1 feeling, which even those. who euttiloYe'll pia know, In their hearts to be destitute o f fottoloo, But there l eas another argnateot lore Fr's`/Y;:litlii° than even this—it was urg,,4l, upou a very illfenii.)loo reasonin, that because Orangemen bad r°°., si boll c e i d ties upon CithOlics, the claims of the I.itebt.:; a,114( ~ ~I.yslc,aurl.iansent. In chi; there , v is stoti .. .l ll ,o,llegi ' in '. :na, suns. Because . Cat holies are ta!_agoottr., -because Use murderers sre acquitted uY 7 pt . their OrasKe associates. the "louse niust t 004:: lions which were flier' before it Ytt, strouthceti Or pear, he it itilerstood this urvinient hod Drenlibisfe; effect in another place 13( fore he olio°'/"iye OIL should state to their Lo.rtisittpi what hail be! 3 , o ber, the v Solicitor-Geiteral for Irelatui . (Mr, 140,4r/}(0105 '.t be t ~, F benefactorst t ai , I r ne c d il s t. a eh ri r d i (; c : c l i a s r e l s ° u t r h . t s ! , n o t uort:tmerieir, e 1::::::: :: :i ioit iti:Ils: Judge that Cirittit, upon the conduct of Ivo ov ilit , , Judgedetdo Courtw h ll°le";lllltXtatleltflsitlilliisliaisi6 ALit.l...4r*Ps'il '_!, Gentlemen,. you huvetfo'und this nisi) ltot,gre hii t i t ep r e.. ohje l e i t e ion at — vo t w h e e d, re - t e b s a ti t ibl f i oc i i.T:r ilt y. llll: ;:c ritiscti,,4l, troublesome and dangerous itt forogu ', l ts I ,.,"'i l ill' t n i e tne was gone ; they had no iiithienoe cre"ottr,o,l, ti nf ea ßih h t s o 4Sisis to t4}ruibiey lvduie:iretintli'tisSctoceamtieltid:tieebi'ji."34;lllllltil°wellejli;::°;iiiillitile4r7::(slltli thisf.._ ,a reason why the Catholics 01,)11%, , l o r Ofti,est wereiurl their_ constitutional claims? b,l,oo,:eration 4',0401 volierenco of opinion as to tin , r ol e o a r ia ,cleties, and a 3 to n; Bibles with al' 0 0 4 l o r'ill .(1ea5.5, hear t) .t Unclear two Itilld rsivrileolo that [louse, two very eminent pers"'nf,t'lollo ,night "")stientlysbield himself invier.,, ileorrova,,,..ll eminent persons tit il'. T' A lijg"„fgAt ° , l , ll. :Aki: lately. , soa p s into . that !.,i'', 3U I s',,' too,' Kt," dli Imp of Llanoatt j, echo 'ci-h's'er eg :" !Ai ll' Cilip i , : usingl tW aS a-question whether therlliib'e - t''' ''' iff Perverted 4 ' ithOut coistuso,lo k ill 0 , which that • ' 1 given '''' 4 ore clot" de; of , St p Right Reverend Yr a r,, ~,,f t , ~ etre, obserTing, that the obte • mask,o would be much more applicable to the Folit , oq , i °"'n time. . ite (Lawd v.) felt 31 if "ii4Cli, Oi°, catholics upon the varipus coulit3 of %ctist c oliclo the most straw of vabiett was that up I 00 , ,, $Ol , O to observe. It was asked, w hy did P ° Ic atl' i I themselves by oath of those tenets Lill! P e ( d bi z . i oti ? thew, and which they publicly discl3lT,l o r o ° oll NOW, who wire the persons tb st ' lli.' l 4 "' b..? i: ° t! 'i rYpersons who domed the sectir f,,,roa cl; 4 , it the Catholics. The ottaolio ..vtre4o., • Ou' fiiii aatil, O do vin{{ as obligatory tbo sancticio of AI .crD"!_,, „,r . , face of the proof to the control-I'li', t"';', 0 0 4 1 ,7 e iiiti Constitution, by their r.ptigoailee toll o . , in", their consciences. l'he uothority ol .. ; o f isto tw or } t quoted in another place, in soPPc)" es , ;oat Burke never could have anticirstrd t his, ilcilttidd it work, written in support of religious r to 01.1 a pt 4 ,t the Person who quoted the pasoi:e VAlifise/I•.(uili over to the succeeding page, he woolion Os lo ' t stS i l melds of Mr. Burke in the cleclit3 j * 0- t jo rlii ItitUtioll WAS not made for exclusit 014,44 Eater exclusion would destroy il' - '" r • A of sow' stinaudne!aiiibboi:ri r ja r ee t l t i dt; OiPits°lltilolitival:tdBhl°rdiuril3Yll.ll)lo;ridit6::::°ell4l4lsl.rol::l);',llc:i:tl existed, and should conclude with silliYalv'd ro!1340 01 mutes of the whole Howe be aPr',4,ooll't4 obi Catholic Claims. He had only w 0.0 ~ t i i ti o ,,io any disrespect to the English Critil.ii, sirOsel Mil' from alluding to them, bot b"cij!'s'ltpoil I'vhtfctiOlcill taben of the subject, arol the topics oiri!otioet, had no direct connection with °lst bil!rirstlol/0 041' or his Majesty's subjects; And 11i5f,.004 b/ ti plied to all those who would be . 0;4 their Lordships. • ar,...-01 Ol, The liiihoy -of LANI),,A* thii rat gboar ' dress their bortishiPs " It otocioi vo portant question, he WO c,. ill 0 1l it 4,00 he was to do justice ,to i t „ e a to o. oi and he would not'incur the I.:setvo tolleeboa which he might be liable, treTe:(l vic o It lir 1 ble Earl through all the varioi: etiaest:io of -the subject ;. but he wei_' idisollt 1,`0,01, to state what indoceel ilia) tu_9„dcolnlil 1 position which ha •. been so?' o r ( re ligig i j o bli Were this a question tnekel,Y with 110,0;:. /t ic lie would loin ittOst sitl.CeFtel,to.opittl L' t 4 0 , vet; but the freedom ot reili,`"4o,e vcc!:tds; untouched in rhatever."`ltliolic eill,iligo3,' might be eecided. Elle ',., , 9 hii(ll!' Vf(j liberty in the professioin. re.l ,gf,ol of, the established Choli;'l;reie,,t q i l o l o , I therefore, in consideriuF% w ith re ll i g , 1 0 not to concern thernsell:.c,.:ol p 00. .; a n ti t. mutely, hut also with j_ 11 . __" e o f intOlcor ri should not incur the 015 statonrris 'es: iota roily form aking, "oat its 1 3 ' . fa til 6 question was so Tni°"' .efetence ! (1 . 0 1 'l l be considered withont 1 1 1 nollti, ~ (1,1147 r dilnestitanweiely, iitv 7 3 t s , tine:r(illii,ci c o: fi ' i j i ° je , P , o i f o ,l l , , l gious opinions consonthc)e-, with a lt, „(10115: was of little cortiegtlei) whether.ic 9i t acre true or false. 1-/,': tree 114.' in is l'` losing to the inity ttiti, 5ch,c;,;,,,1!, tog):::csvi6,leiiitbile,ccrilYr;it iitl7e`rieldViclortigrr,eir_.:ecteuticol;:tip'roteil)ofs::::::irrT'ii These were questior's ' , 100101 co o 11 . no other optntont., , c t ii , t ilt to e( li b II from the highest eti . l c 'xo,, e1 1 ..i ? i% 0 1 ,poolidlitt oifoivgielists..,;,...ittenir tice,.ol,lll;l.l'lo(vi)ii,.fit.th.,teit,ery? beft.,,etitis,l no delinquency, '," fl Y. t'iti,,o, tii t ai'' lecol,,g sibility prononoceti Ph_ 1. 1 19 p ill, 'r teat fil he most eindiallY egr,'::: coste Ds Le: t d t c y c i vt , i iel,lii b; alts Jceityittogoestiov, 4