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ieges of trading to the Fast WI declared fry the act in que , tion. The object of the resolation be bad to submit was, that the right should be _ communicated to his Majesty's possessions in the Mediterranean. He saw no - reason why•this ex tension shotild not take place : it was a power at ready enjoyed by the other settlements of the Crown, anti was not calculated to prove injurious to the interests of the Compauy. He should move,therefore, a:resolution, the import of which seas, that it should be lawful to tattle in British built ships - holt: the island of Malta and the port of Gibraltar to all places in the East Indies, ex veld the dominions of the Emperor of China. -Mr.BrtouGnAM doubted whether this measure would prove of in relieving the nierehauts in the Mediterranean from the competition of the Amcriean trader. One American vessel had re cently disposed of 3,000 pieces of nankeen, at the rate of 3s. per piece at Gibraltar, whilst in 'Lon dem they produced only 3s. 10d. Mr RoniNsox explained. Atter which, the re solution .was read a second time, and the report oidered to be receive:l to-morrow. The Marine Mutiny Bill was read a third time and passed. The Naval Stores Bill went through a Com mittee.--Report to be received to-morrow, In answer to a question put by Sir John New pot t, with regard to the appointment of h ome in. dividual to the olliee of C inservalor of the Royal burghs In Scotland, the Cban-ellor of the Et.che quer desired some time to procure information. ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. The House then resolved itself into a Com mittee of Supply, to Which the Ordnance Esti , mates Were ordered to be referred. . Mr. R. WARD said, it Witt his intention to move a vote on account, as had been done with regard to the Rimy and navy estimates . ; amt that no fur ther supply should In , granted' at iii•esent for the: service of the Ordni:nee Department, than for the six months . ending on the 30th June, 1817. lie trusted that the aceonnts were not likely to give rise to much altercation ; and he deemed it right to state to the House what bad been the extent of the different reductions in th;s branch of the public expenditure, The charge for the ordinary service was this year 538,0001. which was less than the former estimate by the sum of 135,0001. The ex t raordinaries amounted to 2 11,000 t leaving a reduction under this head of expellee of 104,000/. - The aggregate charge was 749,0001. Credit had been taken for 33,000/. horn the sale of horses and old stores, llere the Wm. Gentlemaneti, tercel upon a statement of die reductions in Ire, land; but this part of his statement was utterly undistinguishable in the gallery. The total anionut of the whole expence for the year, fur Great "Uri rain and Ireland, would be,' in round numbers, 942,000/. In time of full war, the number of men employed was 31,600. In 1815, this num ber was reduced to the extent of 3,300 men ; in 1816, to that of 1.5,000 more ; and the, pt esent establishnient consisted only of 9,3001'. lie should content himself at present with moving, Thar a sum not exceeding 2-18,000/. be granted to his Majesty, for the service of the ordnance depart ment, till the 30th of June, 1817. Mr. BENNETT considered, the,- it would be more advent Agl'ollb to postpone the general discus sion ilium this 'subject till the ,whole of the esti mates should be before the House. tle rose at present chiefly for the purpose of expressing the surprise with which he had read an advertisement purporting to issue from the Ordnance Board, ad , ' dressed to the map-sellers, and forbidding them to Make any use or !widish any copies of the Trigo nometrical Snrvey's of the Country,' - which had been taken at the public expellee; under the int- Mediate direction 'of the. Ordnance Board. This appeared to him to be acting in the'spirit of a ped lering trader, rather than of a public department. Many could not afford to purchase tlke original chart, and by this prohibition the general object of utility would be defeated. It was not upon this principle that foreign Governments acted.— In Parinany one might go to the map•board, and see nor only thns , ,t which were, but those which were not publishiol, • Mr. Wan said, he had Not been apprised or the advertisement alluded to, het was nevertheless prepared to defend it. The charge for those sur veys appeared neither in the ordinaries nor extra ordinaries. It was intended that the sale of them should defray the expellee, and in this insta nce, at least, he apprehended they were better stewards for the public than the lion. Gentleman, with all his desire of public economy. The object of the advertisement was the prevention of piracy ; and if that was 'only worthy the character of petty merchants he must submit to the taunt, but it would effect a saving of 10,0001. annually Mr. BENNETT observed, that he had been an advocate tor abolishing articles, of useless, not of useful, expence. The object of the survey wee public, viz. the extending the knowledge-of the country and its coasts, and it had been carried into • effect by means of public money. "fhe Board of Ordnance was in this respect acting on principles much mortitigid than the map-sellers themselves, whom be bad' always found willing to . make nmunications of their copies.. . . Sir M. W. Blown( Was glad, however late, to see Millisters taking credit for economy : but he observed diet the first article in these estimates was the sum . of 43,7931. to the Master-General, principal Officers, and others in this department. This was an increase to the heads of the depart amountinitto.lo,oool. above the MU voted., when the estimates • were between three.and,four millions, although they were now less titan one It was to a reduction of such salaries that thepabliclooked for effectual retrenchment, and not to savings made by ihe sacrifice of works of national importance and utility. Mr. WARD observed, that the Hon. Baronet was iniStaken,..if he supposed that the increase on the leading article of the Civil Establishment was owing to :any addition to the salaries of the heads of the department. It was distributed entirely among the subordinate clerks., whose number was 205, and who were employed in I I different de pal tomtits. Not one of time rnincipal officers had received a shilling of increased salary since the Union. Sir M. W. RIDLEY and Mr: WARD severally upla tied. Mr. CALCRAFT said, it was much the best way that the ncumnts slioul3 be. tvottz;l up. AV:tt respect t( redactions in getter,i, if thit lionottrah:e Gvntivolan rci,t•reti to a state of ‘v;kr, the Vrt•sictit V..,Giblishotetitt, were great but t'he 'loose twitt wiw look to peace Esta blishMeots.-4 Mitlisters thought themselves co.keep up the 'Ordnance, be 111119 C say, Ilia , their Estimates were extremely large. 111r...IVAnD explained. Air. CAz,cuAtr, i!1 reply, admitted that very ► nnsider,ahie efforts at reductifm had been made, hut they mightbeentried still farther the Ariviy and Ordnance. He should by no means press for any farther reductions in the Vaq he did 'hot know, indeed, whether the. Navy Was not too much reduced alreaily. IVlr'NVAttn said, if it shoad befound•ttfat any further reductions could he made, they certainly should be effected.- 7 (Hear !) .• Mr. BROUGHAM desired to ekpeesi his approba• Hon of the great reductions in the Oilnance, hoped it would be the.model and scale on which other reductions would,be made. Something, Ito hoped, would be proposed by 'the CoMmittee above stairs ; but he anticipated, with O'cat satiSfaction, that after Easter the House would be able to re 7 same . some of those functions which appealed now to be too much in abeyance. Mr. WARD and Mr. BnouonAa %mutually ex planted. The following Resolutions were successively voted :--- 55,0001. fur the Ordnance Service of 1515, not provided for l.y Parliament. 25,0811. fur the service of 1310, not provided for by Parlia ment. 41,000/. for defraying the expence of reducing the Ord. nance of the Land Service the year !RIG. 105,000/. for defraying the charge of Superannuated and Retired Officers of the Ordnance of the Landliervice forOreat Britain, from the Ist.January, 1817, to the'°4th of June. . 15,000/.for Betraying the charge of Superannuated and Re tired Officers of the :Jrdnance in respect of their holdiug si tuations in the Civil Department. • 35,031/. for defraying the charge of Half-pay Officers of the Ordnance of Great Britain. • • _ _ ..... ...... 72,0001. for defraying the ordinary charges of the Ordnance Land Service. for Ireland, from the Ist of January to the 24th of June, 1917. 7,0001. for defraying the charge of the Superannuated and Retired Officers of the Royal Irish Artillery. 1,7401. for allowances and compencations to the Superan nuated and Retired Olticere of. the Ordnance of Irelanil, in respect of any situations they way have held in the Civil Dc. part went. The noose was then resumed, 'and the Report was ordgred to be - brought op to-ntorrow. SPANISH COLONIES. Mr. BROUGHAM .whited to ask the Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Gottlburn), whether be had received any account of a Proclamation issued by the Governor of •Trinidad, stating, chat Fer ! . dinand bed interdicted all intercourse with the re volted provinces,• not only as to• trade, but even with respect to sending wonky thither. Mr. GOULBUIIN was not aware or any such pro clamation having been issued. Mr. Bannon:cm observed, that the official pro clamation was dated in 1815: he should therefore move, that an humble Address .be 'presented to the Prince Regent, praying that collies of all Pp elamati,ons by the Governor of Trinidad, issued since the Ist of January, -1814, respecting the in tercourse between that Island and the Spanish Colonies, Might be laid before the House. — Agreed to. Mr. BaouonAM wished to know what fate had attended th e three hntorhinate, merchants from Buenos ,gyres, who were restrained from leaving this country with Out the permission of the Spa- - nish Atilbassudor ? The CHANCPLLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that when the Right Hon. Gentleman for the Home Department was present, he would be able to give an answer to . the Learned Member. ' Mr. W._ SMITH moved, that the Report of tlie . Committee on Highland Roads be laid before the House, which was agreed to. Lord A. HAsatt.ToN presented a Petition from Lanark, praying for. the Repeal of the Cottage- Tax. The prayer of the petition, he observed, was so moderatt and equitable, that he hoped it would,not be refused. it was, that, all cottages whose rental did nut exceed five pounds a-year should be exempted from the payment of window lights. Sir It. FERGUSSON supported the Petition, ob ser'ving, that this burden was felt all over Scut . land. Ml'. FINLAY said, this charge on the poor of Scotland was SO dreadful in its consequeneeb, that they were 'often obliged to part with wife( cost them 245. to pay 4s. 6d.--;-(Hear !) Sir J. Nawpoar - was the more anxious to give his support to the Petition, because there was formerly a similar tax in Ireland, affecting the cottages of the poor. The hardships, however, were considered so great, that it had been re pealed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not mean to oppose the reception of the Petition; h at protested, against exonerating Scotland from, a tax which England was to bear.. He was per feetly willing that any information should be laid before the [louse that would enable Gov er n ment Id - place the' two'parts of the Kingdom on a - fair' and equitable footing ; but they ought not to exempt any part of the kingdom from taxation without proper inquiry. .Sir G. Wattnewptut thought, that if some al teration could be made in the mode of raising the Tax, it would be attended with great benefit to the pour of Scotland, without making any difference in the Revenue. Lord COCIIRANE said a few words, when the petition was brought up, read, and ordered to lie on die table. Lord A. Maim Tor; then gave notice, that.in a few days Ire wotthl move'that all Papers vela ►ive to this subject should be laid on' the table immediately after the recess. - Mr. BENNETT pafttpOned his motion respecting the appointment of Mr."Herries till Wednesday the 23d of' April. Mr. °MILBURN brought - up an Account of all Offices held 'Under the Crown in eordnies, pun. arrant to an order of the House. ' The Mutiny Bill Was read a third time, and passed, Mr. BENNETT moved, that it he made an in struction to the Police Committee, to inquire, and report generally to the House, on the Laws rela k. . Fire to growing Liccnses : t o Victuallers'y Agreed to. MR, nurr. Lind Coctirt 't it't "field in hiS hand a Petition frdio Mr. It. G.--Butt, staring, that flue of 10001. tvt ich paid under a sentence of the Court of King's lies►chi 'Lad not been ap plied to the use of Goveinment. He '(Lord Cochrane) not being able to sp:.ak to this fact himself, he bad been that day to the Pipe-office, where he learned, that no fate had been paid there by the regular Officer of the Crown-office for. some time ortst. If, however, the idea of its not having , been properly applied was a delusion on the mind of the Petitioner, he hoped the House would not reject his Petition withoot proper in qnlry, as he h►ad been deptiVed of his liberty for having published several hand-bills on the subject. It was highly necessary that some investigation should be made into the fact, in order that the public might . ; know that no impeoper use had' been made of the money. He should move to morrow for an account of all fines paid under sentences of Courts of Law, with their subsequent application. The CHANCELLoR of the EXCHEQUER would not. then say a word on the motion which the Noble Lord intended to make ; but he desired to observe, that the facts Mentioned in the Petition had been before him, and he foonsi that the • hue levied under the authority of tl►e Court of King's Bench had been duly applied; It was ridiculous to suppose, that any misapplication could have been wade of a sum paid 'tinder the sentence of one of the Supreme Counts of Justice.—(Hear !) The Petition was brought up, read, and order ed to lie on the table. • The other Orders of the Day being then'di►i posed ot, the House adjourned. GERNIAN PAPERS. The following is the authentic Document (which has been mentioned by some Jintrna signed by the Deputies of the City of Berlin, respeetimg the abstaining from the use at Foreign Manufac- WICS:.--.. "'We, the Deputies of the City of llerlin„here by certify and declare, that we have, upon Ms ture deliberation, solemnly bound ourselves, 33 far as in us tics, to exert outselves that tl►e poorer Classes of our fellow-citizens,, the manufacturers and labourers, may be supported as far as pos.. sible, and secured front the total indigence to which, front the want of work, they are evi. ! dently exposed. Support furnished by chari table institutions frequeutly failsto affurd,the de sired relief.; it has pernicious Influence on mora lity, by increasing idleness. The object is,pro moted with far greater prospect of success, when the wotktnen obtain employment. We therefore mutually-engage, each in his own sphere, to pro 7 vide, that neither himself nor atiy of his depend:- ents, acquaintance, or friends-, shall, tt ith It s knowledge, make use of any article of foreign ntaoubeture, whether it be for clothing or furni ture ; but that every new.artiele which they pur chase shall be entirely of home manufacture. " As we are convinced -that by such ,a resolu tion we can only promote the welfare of our fel low-'citizens, which, in consequence of our offi cial situation, is our most sacred ditty and ►t3 it must at the same titne have a happy influence on our internal industry, we have sanctioned this document by our respective signatures, in the firm I:emulsion thfat our example will every where find imitation, and particularly among our fellow- citizens. " Dune at Berlin, 27th Dec. 181 G." (The Signatures.) AMKUI CA N PAPERS. [FURTHER EXTRACTS.] HOUSE. OF REPTtESENiWrIVES, Fen. 3. The folloqing Message was received frmu the President of the United States : TO THE SENATE AND HOUSE OP REPRESENTATIVES Or THE UNITED STATES. The Government of Great Britain, induced by the posture of the relations with the Unitid States which succeeded the conclusion of the re cent commercial convention, issued an order on the 17th thy of August, 1815, discontinuing the discriminating ditties, payable in British ports, on American vessels and their cargoes, It was not nut il the 22d of Dec. following, that a corresponding discontinuance of discriminating dut ies of BritiSh vessels and their c argoes , i n , American ports, took effect, tinder the authority vested in the Execotii:e by the act of Mardi, 1816. • During the period between these two dates, there. was consequently a faihne of reciprocity or equality in the existing regulations of the two countries. I recommend to the consideration of Congress the expediency of paying to the British Government the amount of the duties remitted, (hiring tie period.in question, to the cittzeus of the United States ; subject to a deduction of the amount of whatever discriminat, ing duties may have commenced in British ports after the signature of that Convention, and been collected previous to ,the 17th Aug. 1815. " Feb.l3, 1817. " JAMES MADISON." The Message was referred to the Committee of Ways aud,Meanif, and ordered to be printed ; and the House adjourned. VOTES FOR PRESIDENT AND VICE•PRESIDENT. After acting on some business of a minor Cita ractet', on the motion of Mr. Jackson, a Message was sent to the Senate, informing 'them that the (louse of Representatives were ready to proceed, agreeably to the mutual resolution of yesterday, to open and count the votes for Vresident. and Vice-President of the United States. The Senate, soon after, entered the House, pre ceded by their President, who was received by the 0 4 ,1 lare 411 , . Speaiter at the e S ll4ir of the 110115.t5, in 10 President of the Setutte took liis P'3 l . # Sl;eakcr ort he 110 a .e b e ' s ile ilia ilic181",) the two }looses, Mr. M3COO o n t he po . V I 'mate, and, Mr. Jechioa and ,Ir. rdioe t° ,i pact of the tiodie,:oecupieil seats ia froul',' ci),.l,3,,iri't The t'als of. the votes mit 111 .01014 i -,-,—""t of "rite Senate, mot by !da Ti'ia(lti; te"ers,', by whom they were reto alustl;o., corded, by the clerks, on the jouroall v° Houses. 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