The Sun. — London, England, 1817-12-05 00:00:00

Itevelt in Torte, Amide& is to inistilciaate own resources, even to infatuation. - To ex ±- the aid of an ally in such a cause, would, if a: ally were Ett4land, be to suppose this ctinn y as forge , ful . of its own lea \ st history as of its mtnedi.,itv inlet c.:ts arid duties. Far better would it be for Spain, instead of calling for our aid, to profit our expel fence ; and_ to substitute, ere it hd tare, t, , r efforts like those by Mach the North American colonies were lost to this coun try, the - conciliating measures by which they have been retained. , • . . "I 3 it, must bi! confessed, perhaps, dial there 'is no prot;lern in rfolitics - more 'difficult Thai; the treatment of coloi.ies.-:-To watch and tinrse their Youth, and to mark•the hour of their inactivity ; 4 — to know on What occasions to'enforre,and when to rd ix the strictness. or pleural supefiritendence —when to require nnro'Oili'zional • obedience, and how to yield to supplication or remonstvaore- 7 -• premere, ut lams scire: dare jams la,76eitas —are among the most vying questions of legislative,wis dour; anti such as, few. legislators have ever con- . sewed to learn from any other experience than. their own.. _ • " It must further be confessed, that no, two cases in history are so precisely parallel, as the first view of some striking 'points ofteiemblaace induces su perficial observers to imagine.; and that there are points of difference as well as of likeness between the c:nitests of thii country with her colonies, and that of Spain with hers in the present day, which, though they do not destroy the warning force of example, yet forbid- too hasty an.inference as .to the ultimate issue of the contest: In both cases there is a mother country struggling with her co lonies, in bOth cases•those:_colonies are in A Inc-, rica. The general difficulties, therefore, of dis - taw. enterpr:ze and uncertain communication, of armies to be transported, to be recruited, _and maintained across the ocean, are in both cases the bume in nature if nut in degree ; and the general principles of .justice and moderation, of Christian forhedranee, and of mutual and timely concession, are and ought to be la both cases, as in other . poi.sthle cases, the,same. . But w h en w e ! lav e a d- Mitered these general. similitudes, we have disposed of nearly all the flOilitS in which the two cases are really;mikr. The rest of their most yemaikahle characteristics are such as widely distinguish them from each other. Of these distinctions, while some are more favourable to the cause of. the Colonies, others to that of the mother -country, all.conspire to make 4 he Case, a more difficult mid complicated one sliaa chat which is held out to them as a pre cedent.. Spain, for instance, has greater. military disadvantages in lice struggle. than this country bad to contend against in that with the colonies of North Americo ;-,-her greater distance from the must valuable of her colonies ;.:---her own compa rative weakness ;—and the original anti inveterate sins of her colonial system. Politically considered, the question which she, has to decide is a more dit iicult one. Vie Anglo-Ankericaus, an active and enlightened people, animated by she spirit and information derived from the mother -country, con-' tended, .as.they had done in the pi eceding centn -TY, with_ pertinaCi9o zeal 'for a civil righf, the grant of which, in the ear ly p art o f O m contest, Dilgut Have retoro their trantrilliiy, and pre . served' their allegiance. The South Americans. to rise a legal phrase, plead the gefieral is-sue against Spain; !bey are altogether at variance with the mother-country, not on some single insulated point, which grows out of their admitted rela tions, and might be adjus.!ed. on its own merits, leaving those relations unchanged and Unimpaired, but. upon the ,whole -, scherne and system 91 those relations themselves. O n th e o ne b an d, therefore, 'Spain is less powerful to 'coerce ; on the other hand she may .reasonably be less v illing to, give up all . oml is - required of her :—we say reasonably, not in the sense of approving of the oppressive and impolitic system of trade and of government of Spain over 'her Colonies ; not as putting out of sight the increased spirit of intelli gence and information, which pervades not only the colonies but the world, and which tenders the colonial. system of Spain obsolete and inapplica . ble to the present state of things ;—not as underva luing the successful example of the United States, 'as a caution to Spain how mud) she hazards by a continuance of the contest ;—we mean simply to say. that it is natural—i:m(l it is so—tor any .country not to surrender , without a struggle; or while it has yet the means of struggling for them,. long established posses:Aons of immense value, arid loog.cherished prejudices connected ‘vitit re collections of national power and glory: We state this---not as what Spain ought to reel, but as what it is natural that she should fi el; not es a laudable motise for indefinite perseverance, but, as a prat tical,difficulty (such as did not exist in the case of .this wit - pry) in the . way of unlimited concession. if it took England some, time and some teaching . before she veptild consent to repeal a tax—it can not be th6 ug hr sorprising that Spainshnuld hesitate to surrender. an empire. Nor 'is it more Tvonderfnl that this struggle should be national in Spain, than that the American war should have been, in its origin and printTle (as it unquestionably was), , popnlar in. England. • " Independently of the evil influence Of the Spa nish colonial - system, and of the general tendency of colonies to out t ;row restraint, there has existed u peculiar and immediate, cause, which might have se‘ered the union. -between any colony aml any muther-country, in the events of the war in Ore Peninsula, and the Manner in which the interests of AmeriCa were treated by the successive tempo rary governments of that .kingdoni. The'autho rity of Spain was so relaxed, the intercourse so rare, (luting the first years of the ivar, that the colonies had subsided into a state of virtual intle pendenCe, long before they had deterniined to as sume it. They hod received no intelligence. front Europe, but tote vague reports of timid or treadle- tons retugees ; they were told that S l ►ain was conquered and over-run by the French armies ; they were distracted by the pretensions and Squ►ab bles of rival Juntas. -At length the Corte; of Spain were assembled, and deluded the Americans _ _ ..... _ . with hopes of attention and relief; but when, in stead of any substautialieforms, they were treated with (lull dissthations on the Rights of Man, and on the dignity of human nature;—when, instead of a proportionate share in the national representa tion, she titinther of Deputies assigned to them Was so scanty, and so ill chosen, that then: inte- THE SUN. ,sovtl4 QV IS DICER:. FA.C.861 tiI)EAT ? • LONDON DECEIttEiI 5, We beg to call the particular attention of Go vernment and the public to . the followiug authen tic narrative. It willishew our deluded country men what Oscines they run in - venturing, to en gage in the cause of South America ship named The Prince, within these few days sailed from Gravesend, and is now probably at Portsmouth, having on board a complete equipment for a Fitts sar Reginient„ (including of course both arms and clothing) and of this regiment a Col, WILSON is to -be the Commander, who, with the full compliment of Officers,and about SO non-commissioneflOfficers, are now on board. The Officers are principally British, the Non-commissioned Officers are chiefly Prussian, Flemiih, and French. As far the greater Slumber of these foreigners bad held Commissions in the several services to which they had been at, tacked, and many were Of highly respectable fa milies (though, from various causes; reduced and estranged from theirTelations), hopes had been held otit to them that they would have Commissions, hut they were at length told by the South American Agents here 'that none could go as Officers who could 'not raise a suns considerably exceeding. one hundred pounds, but that they would be accepted as Non-commissioned Officers, and would be en titled to eighty dollars each Sergeant, on the arri val of the ship at her place of destination, from which, however, it was stated that deductioni were to be made. Unable to raise the ;AM re quired, and being desperate in their., situations, some of them accepted the latter eonditiou. Others, who had the means,` provided themselves with articles that would have •tentlered theit voyage more comfortable than being restricted to such rations as they expected to find on board. About one half, raised money enoughoto purchase a sea-bed each, and the rest were 'without one; anti to these eighty men a part of the ship was assigned, of a size moth -too small for such a voyage They were from day to day told that the ship was to sail immediately: Many of theta had beerton board from four to five weeks, and consequently had exhausted • the little com farts with which they, had provided themselves, and had not means to fprocure a fresh supply Their allowance was confined to three-quarters of a pound ormeat and the same quantity of biscuit per day, with a very moderate supply of small beer., A . ship now lies at Gravesend, named the Britannia, , destined for the conveyance of the Officers, Nan. Otticcis, anti 'ioiiiiplete Appoint inents of - anotl;e l - Ca.valvy Regiment ; but the el , feet of Ttfe , Pauct.A.m,vutoti bas indUced the ecarer ounthri to rer‘irti to LoAon.. If proper Art eiltio►t had been paid to this Proclamation thtis,./ndian would not have. .bern suffered, to proceed on .her voyage from Portsmouth, With Colonel Stcrt NE and I►ist►'ii^ers, Non-commissioned Oflicers, - and Appointments for a Regiment' .4 Lancers, but aS itOon as the Proclama lion became known, t3ti SUnday at I Yortsnaguth, the Indian pia to sea itntnediaicly, ithich Might have been prevented by a little activity, and_ the Officers would have had - Hine to cdutider thecon'- •sequenceslikely-!o result Irons a violation of it. The Prince and the Britannia, hi- consideration of the manufactured goods actually shipped; have obtained permission to proceed on their voyage. This permission - does nOt extend to. the British subjects who intended to join the. Insurgents ; brit' if these manufaCtut:ed goods should consist of instruments:of v*r, what will SPAIN have reason t o o say on the subject ! ! ! The Morniag Chronicle, this day, has tbouight proper to notice the article which.appeared in our Paper of Wednesday last, importing the intended resiination of the Duke of 1 7 °4. The Chronicle says, " Tue Suer positively asserted it, and - last night the Editor states that' the.notice came to hitnunder the Seal of Office." Our words were an Official Seat. There is a great difference in the two expressions. The Seal of Office maybe sup- - posed to be the Office of ,the Commander-ia-Chief, but 'an Official Seal ni. , y belOng to many offices. however, the fact is, t h at we. stated last night, that we , had been imposed up9n, and that we were glad to find that theiCountty was still to retain the services of the best Cammander-in-Chief it ever had. The Chronicle, however, chuses to be line that we are responsible for, the . article in question,• and says "- THE SUN was im posed upon in saying that it depended upon the issue of the arrangement in favour of Sir H. TORREKS, by' providing for the retire ment of Sir H. CALVERT;" It would have been more candid tb treaethe whole aS an impo sition 'to which'Newspapers are alwwys liable. The trick was artfully practised by our Corre spondent, whoever he is ; sod on the.snggested arrangements, we may my, .that " the wish was fa ther to the thought," or that the Whole was the robable result of intrigue, if flu: latently(' as a wanton falsehood. We h;ave again to announce the non-arrival of Varis P4pers ; Three &y§ Journals, those of Sunday, Monday, and Tueschy last, are dile.' . The Charleston Courier, of ,Oct. 24, states, that ELTaiv, Esq. Commander of the United States brig Saranac . , has libelied in the - District Court of Georgia the armed schooner-rigged boat ,Sarah, of the Spanish schooner Santa Cruiz, her prize, in company with which she was taken on e 4th inst. us they were entering the St. Mary's River. The Sarah is the same boat that was picked up hi this harbour last rwomer, was re fitted here by JOHN Mormisobr, and sailed from hence for Amelia, arid from thence she proceeded to the - coast of Coba, where the above prize was made, together with the British . schooner Two Brothers, from . Nassau botud to Barracoa, which they captured and plundered, turning the crew on shore, and brought in company with the above prize to the mouth of the River Sr. Mary's, when she was also detained by the Saranac,. and has since arrived at Savannah in charge of - a crew be longing to that vessel. The late, Commander. of he Sarah, ,(EDWARD FERNER) made his escape rrom the Two Brothers at Jekyl Island, where she ouched on her pasiage from St. Mary's to Sa7 , . rests inaii obciously no eltante of a fair coti;idera tion.in the numerous.lntd ‘ partial assen&ly ; and when, as the last aggravation, Cadiz, the hat hour of monopoly, the town whose pnispetity had bet ii the triiir of their grievances, bccaMe the 'residence 'of tills assembly; and themn,erchants of Cadiz, the advisers and dictators both of the Cortes and. the Government; the most strenuous udvocates for the sovereignty of the mother-countricould`not .reasonably deny that the cOlfinies• derived- from such. treatment a powttful Jwititication of their condirct - ; nor blame them if the superstitions kyalty with which they bad hitherto united gin6ce to Perdiniind VII. with the complaints of their grievances, was overborne, not only by the ;weight Of ancient oppressions, but by the disap pointment of new and rational hopes, and by the apprehethion.ot becoming, tigainst their tlill;'sub• jests t<tthe Ftencif ethpire. " Here again, bon ever, our present concern is not so much with motives as with facts. By the process , which we 4ra,%e described, the aliena tion of the Colonies has been rendered so much the more complete ; and by so much the more hopeless is the task of Spain to reconquer or re claiin them. " Brit if these circumstances enhance the diffi culties of. the mother-country and forbid the ex pectation of unconditional submission on the part of the 'Colonies, there are other - reasons for not anticipating with confidence the saute unqualified success to 'the Colonies' in a struggle for:, absolute independence, which crowned the efforts of .their brethren in the northern divisioll of the new world. And these reasons grow tharnly out of the essentia dissimikritv in the history, 4abits, and composi• tiou,of the Society in the two Countries." THEATRICAL REGIS,TER. Perforined Lga Night. THEATRE noyA L, DR U Y-LA NE.—The Haunted Tower: Lard T, eoblto; Adefa, Miss Byrne. After ‘shlch, The 'Tale of Mystery. Ts; FAME' RoVA COVEXT-OA R)) ~ - Shc Stoopcto Conrw: Young Mar Too; Mr. C. Keith ; Miss HardCast4e, Brunton.. Attcr which (first time), Mora's, Love. • `.l:co which was added. Husbands and Wires, , • M ULS.. ARRIVED-1 Do in. France, 1 Lisbon, s (lottery burgh, 4 Ham burgh, 2GuernseyandJersey, 1 Waterford. PRICE OF STOCKS 'THIS DAY AT TWELVE U.Cl.l,Citi. 3 per Cent. Red.:........ s2D I India Stook, shut 3 per. Cent. Cons 43g-i 0 i India 8.Dd5.... . 9 .1,. 965. pr. 4 per Cents ..... 994 i 1 Exch. Bills. ... ... i 7s. '.?:is. pr. 5 per Cent. Ngvy Ann....shut I Cons. for Acc0unt,....634g N 4 Bank L.Ann. • al 1-16th 1 .. HIGH WATER AT LONDfIN BIUDGE'TO.MORROW. Mortrirtg, 17 tuittutes after 12. Erening, 42 minutes after 12. vannah. - We should fail in ':justice .to the Authin, to our selves; and to the-People at large, if we were not to diiect the . particular attention of ►he Lp-: GISLATIJRE to the admirable - Letter of LANFRANC in our Paper of this day. Tliz PRINCE I . RGENT.—Last night, about nine o'clock, his itpyal Highness the . 1 1 sINCR REGENT atrivol at Carlton-liouse from Ill'ighton. • The: Duke of WELLINGTON still continues at his Head-quaefers,'‘vhere therels' no talk at pre sent of , his proceeding to Paris. Ntnnerons te!es are given at Mont St. ,illarie, of• which the Duchess does the honours, and to which many considerable personages front- the neighbdiabood are invited. 4 ..letter froth Weymouth , dated 1 st ,Dee . emb-er, states, that " orders were last night received at Gloucester Lodge to prepare with all possible speed a•suit of apartments for his Serene Highness Prince LEOPO LD who is coming here for some time precious to his going to the Continent." CORN EXCHANGE, DEC, 4 —We luld a middling supply of. Wheat thit morning from Kent and Suf folk, dine saniples of which wet a ready sale at Monday's prices ; the same remark applies -to Oats;. 'Fine Barley is in demand, and rather dearer; Malt is dull in Peaie and Beans there is L alteuttioa. SUIP NEW. ZXTICACT Ot,' A LfiriEß FROM RaITON NOV. 4 . Arrived here 'ast evening, the ship (741 1 /: - Packet, NA . Sii, froth Jauntica, with . . 3'236 bol ti gnicksil'ver ; sailed from Jahiaica Sept. 13, td: con voyofthe British *stoop of ‘var Larne, and 0 her WE Havannalt oh the 11th of October, ill' which Port _she Was bound. September 21, i Lai. 35. N. Lang. 76. W . was boarded from f l privateer btig Mexiethi Congre, and treated IP' litely ; ivas infotmed, that he had captured, It' day Vifore, out. Of a, Spanish fleet from Itayaloo . 6)oroyed by a .frigate, a' Ship arid a brig, O r ' hnanned them ; theforider hating on board 10 boXeS of sngar, .and the latter indigo, &c. ;' salt several other privateers were doging the lice. and there Was no dabbt most of them would taken. A few days before the M. C. bad an actin with a Spaniih Goveiltiientbrig out of Havanniii i and beat her off, having several men Wounddi Parted from the privateer-next day in sight - of Col ° ilaftrai, - She sailed heavily, being laden w ill goods taken out of priies, and was short of mat DEAL, Dec. 4.--Artived (he Isabella', Cron De from Africa. Carne :down from the Itiver:d salted, the Colanihia, fin Bombay ; John Shad! for Jamaica ; and .Britantlia r for Grenada. Eliza and Plicenii,lioniewartl.bound In tflame* still remain in the-Downs.. PLYMOCriIi, Pec.o,--Sail(i the,Heed, PARKO 101: Venice ; Hope. FoßtimArc, for Leglitan Seaflorifer,- CUMING,- for Gibraltar. WHITBY, Dec. 3 —This ;Horning the s tatic „Bersy, GREY, coal laden, sunk off Stitittiti'; 'crd .saved. Doveß, Dec. 4 .- --Arrived tl a Integrity tract port. from Antwerp for - Deptford. FALMOUTH, DEC. 2.—Arrived the • Duke Marlborough packet with a mail for LisboPl itic!ncy, NICOL, for Naples; and Elizabeth"; YEE ; for Gibraltar. • PORTSMOUTII, Dec. 4 —Arrived the, Sitvt' r/ Taylor, twin the Downs for Jamaica, and 3:1° ( rifler, from the Downs for Malta. The whole (I the'out ward-bound have sailed, except the oho ° , two, and the folqtvilig vessels :—Northumberlao' and Richard Plaskett, for the Mediterranean' Lady-Castlereagh, for New South Wales ; Pool' tor Roston ;, and Annabelle, for Madeira. Al" remain the fOlowing-trigates :—Glasgow, jot the :Mediterranean ; Syhill e , for the. West Indieo Andromache, for South America ; awl Semil.' mis, fur Africa. COLVNI A L INTERESTS. Vietting the British Colonies as an essenti°: portion•ni the 13ritish Empire, we stroll al\voY l take an active inicrest . 'in their prospetity, and d theceidire readily itvbcrt the fol!owitig- article ---6' ." QUEBEC EXCI L Oct, 10, tam ri At a-Meeting of the Merchants and other Inhabitan'f,' • Quebec, pursuant .to a ? , ;(tlite insvited in • the Que-ee zette, of the 9th instant, J9IIN JONES, Esq. hi Chair, the Chairman read the.fo;loWing Letter " of Committee o f Prirq I IP/iitthal/, Jab. 4R r [ 5 17...4 " am directedl. by the of the s.:01111111V 03 4 , Privy Council ioCitade to acquaint. you, fur the inf,t•tuatl of the Gentlemen enga g a 'in the Trade of th e British :,\01,1,,, American Coloniei, th a t it b e i ng d eeme d a d v i sa bl e by PI; Majessx's Government, on various accounts, to postpone it , coasolidation of the Customs for another year, thva eas nu O teution of 'submitting t o P.irliament any propositi o n f u r f alteration of the Timber Ditties the ~present Session they think it tight that those who are inteeest‘ed its the slot:, tion,,should Ise apprized that his . Majesty's Gov er n men t 6 ', of .opinion, that tl•e extension of a Doty to the Timber: pOrted from the IltitiSh North American Colonies, equal' Y r . amo4st•to the.ad.ditional Duty impoied tni Foreign 'I iFtrt~ in 1813, would be productive to the Revenge, without be" pyrjudicial to the great interests concerned. . • • - " I am, Sir, your must obedient Servant, " J Bainbridge, Esq. (Signed) • "T. LACIC• "On motion of Mr. Davidson; seconded by Mr. Yaterso:, " Resolved, That this ideating-feels. itself bounctia d wry .` 4 , its WO as WCI; as the Interest of British North America. express the strong sense of alarm which it feels at the co" tents of the above letter. " Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Meeting, tfr e any Duty imposed upon the Lumber of British No r th Aso rica, would give a death blow to its Trade its that article. " Resolved, That. since- the return of Peace, the Loml):;,. Trade, though favoured ; by freights unusually low .to Ship-owners, has barely afforded a Commission to the parli` concerned on the other side of the Atlantic. Resolved, That the los - s•of such Trade would be griero l2 . ,,', felt by all concerned in tise.Trade of this Country, more Pr 4 ticularly by those who,under faith o f th e goo d di s p os i t i o ui , j at& •Mother Country towards this Colony, bare exiled .large sums of money on Saw Mills and other Lumber g.s. l4' blishments. • 0 • " Resolved, That the loss of such. Trade,. occasioning very great decrease in the Toquage now employed, severely felt by the very large body of Astizans now emploYll in this and the-other Punka( Shipment .in the dressing ,;f Masts, Spars, and other descrivinri of Lumber, as well a s ',„. the labouring class, which now fi n ds e mpl o y men t in the - 11 1 71 berliardS and in the Loading of Ships employee. in the LullW . Trade. : . Resolved, That the toiSs of such Trade will pie - vent ' ',importation into this Province, of Salt, Earthenware, other bulky articles of British Manufacture ' -from the warit 4 return frei g ht for the'vessels employed, an d seriously &Ajrr t f an advantageous trade which- is now car ried on in the surt o , of the States bordering on the St. Lawr e nce with th o se s' cies,- and which, as well as the Upper Province, will nt=cct tartly be supplied from the sea-purrs of the United Statcs, the tease time affording erupleyartut to the. vessels-of 1 ' Power to the' prejudice of Urose of Great Britain. " Resolved, That the loss of such Trade will d be , :grievo v : , felt by the new Settlers, from th e ir being deprived of the 1 1 '0 vantage which the sale of the lumber o n their lands 0 ) ,,, , d in furnishing then) with'• the necessary means of 1 0 ,1 ,1 liorating a condition s-uhject to very serious privationg uu the most favourable eiremostaces. r l ° "-Resolved, That deprived a s this Country is of a free t with the world by th e N a vigati o n L aws o f -G rea t Britaimr `,1% ports may be - considered as virtually cl o sed by the loss of s u trade. th ° " Resolved, That in the event of inch annihilation t o ,. iv , Lumber Trade of this Conutry-(now a great source L!' 01 .- prosperity), - the' great staguatitm in business which wi ll : , hi low roust reduce to poverty th e num er ous class of per:s 44 P whom the consequenees sv It Inc directly left and convenience eveu -Meriliant, Householder, Mecharnialr Tradt.stuari, thrum...bout ,Ire Province. • , - J r " Resolved,• That a Cominittee of Eight,Gentleineo pointed to draw up a Memorial tit th e L or d s Trade and Plantations, pursuant to the aforegoing 1 4 ' tions, and-report ;lie same with all convenient dispatch.. 0,4 " Resolved, That the Thanks of this Meeting be " 11 ." to the (.3nairaian. • • ' " Ordered, That the following Gentlemen tio compos e Cotunrittee:-- - Mr. Datielson, Mi. Burnett, Mr. Mr. Patterson, Mr. Finlay, Mr. Moir. Mr. Pri ' Mr, 'St mart, .oi,sned) "11,0liT. MF LVLN s Sccrt,t: