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- Lord . Wellesley, he , did not, pi:oceedi wit: that,partly, because he was not ‘ equal -to such a task, ,and parly , because he had little hopes of having sufficient sup-, port. . Mr. Secretary FOX ,begged leave to trouble the House with a few Words,. in answer.to what .had fallen from his Hon,lriend. His Hon Friend Rear him seemed to Milt, that be, (Mr. Fox), and-others who agreed with him, -had, In opposition to their former . conduo, wished to disparage_ this proceeding, and to throw obstacles in.the way. There was not the Ismallest foundation for such suspicions) nor - . were, there any grounds whatever for arraigning his conduct on that head. As to the Speech of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Francis), he had undoubtedly said, that it *as unanswerable; not meaning to make this . - . , brtiad assertion abSolutely, but beciuse, in fad, :nu attempt had ever been made to answer it. He . ap- Proyed of it certainly altogether, and. partly, per haps-, for . this reason among 'others, , that his eon. Friend had professed to drop all idea of pro teedinito an impeachment. Yet it was rather hard that he should. think it . incumbent "on those whp thought that there was a great deal of blame - some-- ; *here, and that a bad system ,had been pursued, to support an impeachment, or any motion for crimi-. tial proceedings. He totally .disclainied any such idea. It might happen that a person, might disapprove - a bad system, without . being committed to support at . criminal charge. AN. Ilea a' bad system: of Gwvernment prevailed, the best mode of remedy l_tog. this w.rsQOE, .in general, by. impeaching an in dividual. The object .vas,. to remove the person *ho carried on such a system, and to take care that /loge such should be a&ed upon in future ; :and, this being obtained, it might. often -be inexpedient to carry the matter any farther. But, at , the same tithe, there might be particular aEts of so enormous a kind as to call for impeachment. This he did not mean to, deny. . But he and his Hon. Friend had a great deal of experience on this subject. This was certainly not a proper tie for inuiry. toi) aCted as he found 'i m t necessary to do with ye- Peel to systems in Europe. About these systems there might be, and, no doubt, there often , was, a great deal of error in judgment. He might dis approve of, and strongly oppose these ; and, if he 'old accomplish his object, which was the destruc tion of these systems, he would certainly not al ways think it necessary to resort to inquiries. 'lila; was his opinion generally, though, undoubtedly, t here might be exceptions to the genera! rule. If t his rule was proper with respect to all Executive Governments,.it was particularly so with regard to India. Now, that he ought to bring a, regular charge in all instances where he disapproved of a particular sYstem of conduct, was a conclusion to which he could ,by nd means assent. Impeaduatent was a bad illocle of proceeding, except in particular cases ; and Certainly. it was not adviseable-to adopt it with re gard to a Governor s General of India merely on account' of his system. Oue Honourable Gentle raan had said, that all these Papers ought to be examined by every Member of the House before he voted on this question. This, perhaps, might, '4'llanthey were very voluminous, be, in - some in stances, incompatible with other duties ; but he be lieved that in cases were the necessity was not great, it was possible that such charges might be brought fbr- Ward rather with a view to the popularity which they m i ght acquire; than from any hopes of ulti mate success. He had approved highly of his Hon. friend's Speech, and the more so as he had disclaim ed any idea of a charge of Impeachment. Ife did Let say that Impeachment 'ought in all cases to be abandoned ; but he really was of opinion, that if it Were often to be resorted, to,' it would, from its difli- - culties, be soon given up in despair, and impunity might thus be procured for almost all sorts of crimes a ad misdemeanors committed by a GoVernor-Gene ral of India. As to' desertion, he certainly could 11 ' 4 be said to desert a person whom he had never eli enuraged ; but, since.the Trial of Mr. Hasting s , t l eY.Might say, if they pleased, that he shrunk from ; I ndia Imachments, or flew from them, or any • arse term might' be used, if 'a worse could be 1. ' u nd• To this he would make no answer. \ But so f was.he from deserving the insinuation which had 'Jean thrown out against him, of having altered his (31)1n1 on with his situation, that the only reason w a y !le Was present a t this D e b a t e a t a ll, was , th e ver y , '' r etnnstance of that change. He scarcely ever at tended these discus s i ons b e f ore , si nce MraHastingS's I r iPeachment. He 'had, indeed, attended at the de 'very of theSpeeeh of his Hon. Friend ; but that was T e rely a, matter of favour to him. It was now his duty,' cwever, to attend all , these discussions. • It svas, t', l cleed, the duty of ever y M em b er o f P ar lia m e n t, , bu t in a peculiar manner that, of a 'person in his si- Li l ation ; and if he did no t d o it, hi s con d r ia might e liable to the w o rst constru6,tiona He did attend, ti l erefore, and delivered his opinion with Mcrae free -0()in than he otherwise would hare done, for then ),,c Would p ro b a bl y h ave sa id not hi ng . The Hon. "Qutlem an (Mr. Pauli) had given notice of a Charge liCh he i n t en d e d t o bring forward on T ues d a y. He su °lll d in the interval acquaint himself arith the ri .Ltleal as far as lay in his power, and give his opi- L ° ll of what was the m os t p ro p er mode o f proce&di n g. : ke (Mr. P.) had read a great deal from the Debates that Nv c)° k Place relative to the Trial of Mr.' Hastings, and his opinion, very properly called to order by noble Friend (Lord Temple). He had looked .voery little into these 'Debates, but what he had seen t them was exceedingly inaccurate, and often the v ery reverse of what had been said. The mode of r cceetling, by' bringing charge after charge, had. be en, upon the whole, the - mode which Mr. urke himself, and others, thought best ot - a the lin eachment of Mr. Hastings: It that mode: was the b est, in the present instance, it might be adopted. B ut while he spoke of the most proper mode, it 11 , 41 5 t not be , therefore understood that he agreed in `Lie propriety of Impeachment at all. As to his opi- I P"s he did not see why he was to be so mach distrusted because he did not on every, occasion -vo 'unteer his notions. It was very difficult :to proceed f r uPerly in a criminal case before the House, -as no ionest man would wish in such . an afthir to use. , any • his influence e x cept what might be derived from ',1 1 5 arg ument ; a nd , if t hi s was t h e case , was it no t ?tier to wait till the whole matter was before the „ I Quse, than to sound a .trumpet -in .every stage of business ? This certainly would not be his con uuct, nor could it be the wish of any one who was anxious only that substantial justice should be clone. AlraFaaszets and Mr. Fox mutually explained.' Pauaa- said a few . WOrds relative to his mode !‘t\ or epressekl thl.nl; :ttp HOrf., Secretary, for the cc‘ludid and liber„+l niontier iu which' he liad colidnaed Ithribeif. - it `Was -what'. Eng. land.e.xpeCted of 111;tu.. Anbldroi4 Wi.shed to.khow wile th'cr the Hon. Gentleman me:lric4 to - ruere for Pny -Documents to - substantiatschls ? that he...W . ould proceed .ac -cording to the precedent set - by Air. Burke ; but the House would have to ciecitht, , v..hetlier ,there was in :.the .Charge. pny good ground, for Impeachment at Mr. GRANT rose in cpn`sequence of what tiad bee❑ said relative. to the. ;powers of the Diredors, and coneended, that, in general cases', their opinions regulated the affairs of India, He highly approved of a system of checks, and the present Indian Go vernment Was . ofle : at the, same time tie thought that a way Should be •found by which, when the different powers disagteed, their opinions might be brOught'to a public hearing. Mr. FRANCIS explained, _ _ . Mr. 'JOHN STONE contended that the Direc tors had not,_in any affairs of consequence, the ma nagement Of .India. Within the last three. years they. bad been over:ruled in the Mabratta War, the affair of Onde, and the Treaty with the Nizam. His opiniOns were.unchanged disapproVed the 'sys tem, but thought no good could be done by an iaii .peaehment. Mr: 8.11/TH.said, that he had, fallen under the censure . of his HOn. Friend for not attending ; but, however; he. IkOz.ild :now i.riCorm him, that part of tl time._ in which he was absent had been spent in receiving assurances from his other Honourable Friend (Mr. Sheridan), that he would attend these discussions. for tbe, future, as he himself meant .to do. ' _ . The other Papers, all consisting of negotiations 'carried on with the Rajah of Furrucl;abad, were then moved for,.and ordered to be, produced. S - LAVE TRADE. On the Motion of the,ArlUlti'7-GENERAL, for the second reading . of the Foreign Colony Slave Trade Bill, • • General TAELETON :solicited a very short delay, which was assented to on the part of the Attorney- General and Mr. Fox,- , General GAscOYNE, however, 'disapproved of the principle of the Bill altogether, and asked whe ther Counsel might not be heard against it at a future stage ; and was informed by the Speaker that they might. • Sir WILLIAM Y oust approved of •the principle of the Bill, which he 'considered as a boon to the West India Merchants ; and stated, that he had been at a numerous Meeting of London Merchants, where a majority had agreed with him. General GAscoYNE . again rose, and was called to order by Mi.- WILBERFORCE ; but being in - - formed by the Speaker that he was in Order, he proceeded to state, that, in his opinion, this Bill was a scheme indirectly to abolish the Slave Trade, which could not be done in an open and dire(f manner. • Sir Vsrm, CoßTis thought the Slave Trade an evil that could not be remedid, but he never purchased 'a Slave himself. He heard nothing of the meeting of Merchants adverted. to by the Hon`. Baronet. 'Mr. BROOKE approved the principle of the Bill, which he considered as beneficial to the West India Merchants. After a'few more words from' Gen. TARLEtow, Sir Wm. l'Ouko, and the ATTORNEY-GENERAL, the Bill was reada second time, and ordered to be com mitted on Monday. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed. of.—Adjourned till Monday. PRICE OF STOCKS. THIS DivlC AT TWELVE O'CLOCK. Consols - MAILS. Azz tvED—z Dublin, t WAterford. Duz-2 Gottenburgh, i Waterford. THE, S UN. SOL QUIS .DICERE FALSUIVC AWDEAT ? L 0 D 0 N, SATURDAY, APRIL 19, 1806. ANOTHER thannunication .has reached Ministers ' 1 from the, French Government. Yesterday morning, aboucsix o'clock, the CoMbatant, Gun-brig, which was cruiziug off the South Foreland, fell in .with a Flag of Truce from Calais. The Dispatches were taken from - On board the French Vessel, and landed at Deal about four o'clock in the afternoon: they were of course immediately forwarded to Mr. Fox's Of .fice. The same degree of laudable' secrecy has . - been observed by Ministers upon this as. upon for mer ocoasions ; theziature and obje& of these Dis patches, therefore; 'remain unknown. It is sup posed by many persons that they relate to an ob jea-more important than the Exchange of Prison ers ; and this . suppo9ition is, in a great degree, founded upon the reports . which. are in. very general circulation upon the Continent, viz, that BONAPARTE has made a. pacific 'Proposition to the British Govern- It is, however, Tore probable that they contain the final 'determination of the French. Government respeaing the Exchange of Prisoners. meat. Tnt .Walsingham . Packet, with, a Mail from Lis ; bon, ;which place she left on the Gth instant, 'is ar rived at Falmouth ; the letters will be delivered on Muliday. The Princess Elizabeth Packet arrived at Lisbon on the T. d,. and the Prince of Wales Packet 'on the 4th instant, from Falmouth, with Mails. DIE last accounts which have been received froth Sir JOHN BOR4SE W. c tiutEN,state, that he was cruiz ing with the whole of his Squadron off the Canaries. They had not ycceived any intelligence whatsoever respeaing the Squadron, which sailed front Brest in . . December last in company with hUlin.LtssiiGu ES, Mr. Serjant,lltsr moted jestetday iii the 1- :, , i'isAalimops for leave to . bring in a Bill to prevent • the publication, in Newspapers, of all Ex pule end Interlocutory Proceedings in, Criminal Cases. • We have always disapproved of the practice which the new Bill is . intended -to prevent ,3 though - we have been under the necessity, from the example of our Contemporaries, of adopting it. But though it. is 'of • the uttro3t -importance to the ends of justice and the security of -innocence that such proceedings should not be promulged in the manner which has led to - the proposed legislative prohibition; yet we conceive that it would not be proper to restrict the Press wholly prom noticing the examination of persons charged with offences before Magistrates ; for otherwise, many, criminals, might be discharged for want of sufficient evidence to put them on a trial, and if their, names , were unknouin to the public, they might contrive .to practise suc cessfully their frauds and depredations. • , The Prince of ORA N GE; fOk e rnerly tne otatanoitier,. died on the 9th inst. at Brunswick, Its had reached the 58th year of his. age. The Reigning PRINCE of FULDA will succeed him in the Principality of INTAs-. SAU ORANGe. Yestetday, at three o'clock, Lord CATIICAST trans aLied busincs at Mr. Fox's Office. The Duke and Dutchess of BEDFORD horniured the Dublin Theatre with their presence on Sattirday last, and werc,.. received with the warmest congratu lations 3 the House was crowded in the extreme, ' Mr. Ct - TRAk is to be one of the,Justices in the Court of Common Pleats, in the room of Mr. Justice JOHNSON, who retires upon a pension of 13001. a-year. . Mr. C. M. ORMSBY, late one of the Counsel to the Commissioners of Irish Revenue, goes out as Chief Justice to Prince of Waleh's Island. At t i o'clock on 'Monday night last .Her Royal Highness the PRINCESS of .."‘ArtEs pasnecl through Exeter, on her road to Dawlish, where, .we hear, Her Royal Highness means to pass six weeks. We understand, • that in consequences of .an accident which happened • to.the carriage after it left that City, her Royal Highness did not reach the end of herjourney till two o'clock in the morning ; which, however, was not so late, but all, the in habitants, assembled to testify • their loyalty . and attachment to :their Royal Visitor the •bouSes were illuminated, and' repeated huzzas expressed thegeneral joy of the populace on her arrival.- Another Fleet is to' proceed on the,2, , Rl inst. from the Nore, and a notification 'to that ell'eel wasyes'-' terday communicated to, the Merchants trading to Russia, in the following terms, viz. . " The Governor of the — Russia Company has seen Lord How icx, and has to acquaint the Trade, that tile Ships which will dev:art with Convoy from the Nore on the 3zd instant will have a Convoy 'to. the Mouth of the Gulf of Finland and also another Convoy will go to Riga, each to wait eight days, and.then - return." • • • - " Merchant Seamans Office, April rB, r 806." One of the Danish laws, respe6ting the navigation of the Sound, precludes the entrance of all Ships of War, or of their proceeding farther than,Elsineur, but on the particular occasion of carrying out an Am bassador—it is conjectured, therefore, that a good understanding exists between the British and Danish Courts, and that no attempt to hinder the entrance of a Fleet, under an EnglishConvOy, will be madein the present situation of affairs: It is but justice to the St. Saviorr's,Southwark Armed Association, whose ComMittee _had aced so precipitately, in consequence of what Mr. WIND HAM said in the House of Commons. respecting the' Volunteer Service, to state, that they had a general meeting yesterday, when• several RoOlutions passed' unanimously, importing that tbe'proceedinp of the Committee, as far as related to the disbanding of the Corps, was an assumption of power not be longing to them—that not con-suiting the Corps at carge was highly indecorous, and merited the strong est• disapprobation—that they will sup Port, with their persons and property, our yaluable Constitu tion and revered King—that the first wish of their hearts, should danger appear, is to be instrumental .. - to the public service, and finally that they should patiently wait till - the new atraugements should pass • into a Law. Such conduit is worthy of men who have volunteered in the service' of their Country, and must not only effe&ually rescue the COrps .from the public censure which would otherwise have been at tached•to it, but must raise . it high in public esti mation. It mat be very gratifying to every friend to this Country, and every admirer of exalted merit, to find that'so very liberal a Subscription has taken place at Cambridge for the purpose of raising a Statue in honour of Mr. PITT. • The University must - ap pear in the most honourable light to the World and to Posterity for .this meritorious tribute •to'departed excellence, because every motive of interest is'at an end, and the measure Must result only from respea and .veneration for the memory of the illustrious Statesman, to whom this .Country was so much in• debted, and- to whom all the Continental PoWers might have been equally indebted for independence and security, if they had attended to his Councils, and heartily co-operated in his system. THE THEATRE.—The Mountaineers, in which KEMI3tE exerted himself with all his usual effect, introduced Miss TAYLOR again last night to the Public in the part of Zorayda. She is still too diffi dent to do justice to her own powers, but she dis played, libwever, more ability than on her first ap, pearance. If her abilities should s hereafter corres pond with the beauty of her person, she will be a considerable acquisition. to 'the Theatre. We had not room yesterday to notice KEMBLE'S performance of Macbeth the night before. It was one of the most successful ellbrts he ever made, and was sus tained with undiminished strength and spirit till the conclusion. The . price which Earl GROSVENOR gave for the late Mr. - AGAR'S PiChires, Ntras not 36,0001. as stated in the Pubic Prints, but 30,0001. — We are glad that so fine a Collection has fallen into the hands of this amiable-and liberal Nobleman -; more particularly so, because it is certain that BUNAPAitTE was very desirous of basing it, and had at ually sent Emissaries into this Country in ogler to purchase it. NA VA L NE fr,s. DEIL 4 Ann. 18.--r Arrived the Combafant Gan brig with Dispatches froin the French Govcrrnnent, which she took out of a- Flag of Truce oJT Boulogne, and which were itntnedia4y forwarded to London by Vice-.L atiral ROLL&WAY, the Commander at this Port, by his Signal Lieutenant, in, a POst-chaisc , • and four. Sailed the Plurbe and , Quetee'fot the Nore. PL - ikourg, APRIL i 7.—Arrived the Dantzic ,Gal liot Amphitrite . , Capt."EILEIN, from Bristol, -laden with sugar, &c. bound to Dantzic, detained by the Betsey Privateer; the Danish Barque Elizabeth: Cat haiina,' Capt. ABEL, from Barcelona, laden-with br . ..ridy, (k - c. bound to Hamburgh, detained by the Lion Priva teer of this Port ; the SpaniSh Luger Buona Ven -tura, cut. out on the Coast of Spain, some ,days since, by His Majesty's Ship Co/poys, last from Fain - mu - the Sailed the •Cr atherine, LANGE, laden with salt, for 'Bergen. Arrived the Plover. SloOp of War from Milford, ; and the Pickle Schooner froth - the Wkstward. Ariired also this morning the Uni , ;7l English Cat ter Cartel, Capt. STEBBE, from - I\lorlaix, • , Place she_landed‘ the French Admiral VILLENEI: and the French Officers which .sailed hence a kt ,v days since., As soon as the Cartel arrived at I.Vl6r laix four French soldier's were pet on board and, re rnained there until she sailed, in ori.lr'to prevent any communication with the shore.. This Cartel fell in yesterday, off the headman; with the Amu 'rican Ship Albion, Cspt. LI.TII:EFIELD, from St. Michael's, laden with fruit, for LOntion, out of which she took Capt. SLATER, of •the Wig Friends' Endeavour, of this Port, lately lost at St. Michael;3' (as mentioned .in a fornier Paper): 'Tie Brig Pet hqm,, of Hull, was' lost in ,the same gale with the Friends' Encleavoui- at St. Michael's: Sailed the Penelope Frigate' on a Cruize to tine Westward, and the- American Ship Henrietta,cizat lotta, Capt..MooßE, for Tonningen.: Two Prussian Brigs were left lealing oranges at St. Michael's, Bound to St. PeterSburgh. Arrived the Prussian Galliot Flom, Capt. JAN SENS, from Lisbon, with salt, for Alkona, detgined by the Nile Lugger. :Arrived the Spanish Brig Dragon, laden • with irou. and steeL froth Gilboa, bound toNera Cruz; cut out from the coast Of Spain by the Boats of the Reizstance Frigate, belonging to Sir, J. B. WARREN'; Squadron ; she is totally dismasted, and .came last from Scilly. The f.fr»in;/7 Frigato is nme int6l--Tarbou'r to Ix.' fitted, and to take in her guns and stores prepara tory to sailing on a.Cruize:. PORTSMOUTH, APRIL 1 S.—Arrived, detained by the Forward Gun-brig, jqfProw Fredrica _Galliot, from Bourdeanx, bound to Hamhurgh, laden with wine ; Z emmeiplt Brig, from St. , Martin's, bound to T-lanaburgh,' with salt, by the falcon Cutter'; and Geirtruda Galliot, from Caen for. Ha m , burgh,lade s n with'seed, &c: by ,the Steady Gan-brig. Sailed on separate cruizes the Metcury and fa inaEca Frigates'; L'Espoir Sloop of War, -Captain Inmorms ;' 'Steady and Turtulent Guti-brigs, and; the Ant Schooner, FAZZIOUTH,, APRIL 16.—Arrived His Majesty's Ship dibraltdr, from a Cruise; the Tho'nzas, LOB BLTT,. from LOndon ; and the Henora, MELnulski; from Liverpool. Sailed His Majesty's Ship Plover, Capt. HANCOCK, with Convoy for Plymouth and London ;. Lavinia Frigate, fat Plymouth, under jury -masts; Strenl4ollS Gun-brig, Lieut. NUGENT, for ditto; and the .F;liza, iticHARbS, for London, with several Vessels in company. Passed this Port to-day His Majesty!s Shii)Aqenger, with the , Convoy for Newfoundland and America, and were joined from this Port by th&Caledonion, BOA G, for America. YARMOUTH, APRIL 18.—The follGwing Prussian Ships have been detained and sent in lreit since yes terday : Ch arktta, WAYMUTH, from Newcastle, with coals, by the Ruby ; , Louisa, —, from the North Sea, with fish, by the Ferreter. s . Anna Su phia, with oak plank, by. the Roebuck; Anna Arne lia, with . lingeed, by the Orpheus; Endraught, with coals, and Zo/dennut, with, flax, by the Agincourt ; and Coiicordid,.by the Badger Excise Cutter. RUTHERFORD, the Lieutenant of the Toznant, lately- advertised, has been discovered, and 'sicar,i.d in the neighbourhood of Scarborough. On Wednesday, 16th' instant, were married at St. Mary Magdalen's Church, Lincoln; by the Revereuit Sir CHARLES AISIDERSON, Baronet, 'JOAN, PLOMEA CLARKE, Esq.,of Welton Place, Northamptonshire, to ANNA MARIA CHARLOTTE, eldest Daughter of the. late Sir, .164 m, and Sister to Sir HENRY NE,L. THORFE ) Bart. of Scawby, County of Lincoln. The French have a common proverb, which tells one to think fOr the best; Pensez a lien" is 0 7 - ways in the mouths of those lively people whenever they advise -a friend t0,a61 for his own advantage. If Englishmen, were to think for the best, they would convince themselves that :no time should be lost in purchasing a Ticket or Share for the ap proaching excellent Lottery ; as the Capital Prizes it contains certainly afford the best ab,d mostrapid meaus of realizing a fortuw.