The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1833-04-30 00:00:00

SPECIMENS OF BRIBER I j - }IN ALLEN was then called in and examined by news : re you a freeman of Liverpool ?—No. c iectO o you remember the second day of the last 1 , 001. ?—Yes. on the 'ere you walking with your brother-in-la w. iat day in Dale-street ?—Yes. id you meet any body there ?—Yes. rho was it you met ?—I met two gentlemen. rho were they ?—I knew one of them. 'o you know a man of the name of Clapping ras he with you ?—Yes. rho was the gentleman you met ?—Bobert Horsfalll lid he wear r ribbons ?—Yes. lid you meet a ed man of the name of Bruffield irhat is Bruffield-?—A bricklayer by trade. las Bruffield a family ?—Yes. then 2°l lid Mr. Horsfall speak to Bruffield ?—The o „I im first. e Vhat did he say to him ?—He asked him if he and he said he was going to vote for Isar. chap called him aside, and Mr. Horsfa ll gaveceo, er and. a sovereign in gold. He gave him a 52 mlf-crowns. 0 1)1 )id you see the money ?—Yes. e - )id Mr. Horsfall take BruffiAd up the passag entry way. )id you follow him up that entry, ?—Yes. e ?) Vas he in conversation with Bruffield e t ime for som .onversation about two or three minutes. „ bet understood you to say that you saw Mr. P'‘,.°e". a Bruffield a sovereign and 4 ha lf- crow ns ?--. 1 )id you distinctly see the money ?—Yes. )id Bruffield then go away with you? —No, h te man that was w lior. Vhe h re did he go to ? ith He went sfall to Vauxhall-roadß°l )id you follow him ?—I did. )id you hear Bruffield vote ?—I saw him vote., cirb ?or whom did he vote ?—For Lord San dou an u uglas. )o you know who Mr. Horsfall is ?—Yes. :s he the son of the mayor of Liverpool ?.—Ye s• t f? :low long have you known Bruffield ?—For twen • er before him. father before limn. nd th Bruffield is a bricklayer?—Yes, and his fath e r Where does Bruffield live ?—At No. 5, Gladstorte" Vauxhall-road. da `// Did you see Mr. Horsfall very actively em p loye ction ?—Yes. _ Cross-examined by Mr. Harrison. What are you ?—A labourer. What sort of labour do you do ?—An excavator. aof Are you an Irishman or au Englishman ?-13111 94 in of course. How long have you been in Liverpool ?—Abotit,, Did you take any part in the election yourse lf 30' e a good many of my relations freeme n : abet'. he ° I I understand that when Bruffield went over to t the wa you followed ?—Yes. That was to watch and see what was done ?- 1 ,1,, 10 1 And you went up the entry afterwards to see v. , '" , j Yes. .aia• You did not get near enough to hear what was - 10 01 1 Do you mean to say that they let you come ep I mean to say that I saw him give him the 01°1?-.' ?' e a How far where you off when the money was 0 near as I am to you now. Brs E Was anybody present besides Mr. Horsfall, ?—And another chap with red ribbons. to° I understand you to say that you followed the'" ssed ?—Yes of course. Did you hear what passed between Mr . Iler sf'lo , h1?—I have explained w I heard. Then you did not hear an h y at more than what 1000 t man F—No. Who did you tell this story to first afterwards '" own brother-in-law. Who is he ?—Clae a shipwrht. Who did Claffey vote for ?—For ig Mr. Ewart n. Would you have voted for Mr. Ewart too if to ?—I would have voted for Mr. Thornelv• yes. ['hen you saw Bruffieid and heard him poll Who did he poll fur F—For Lord Sandon and Are you certain of that ?—Yes. yes, You have no doubt that you heard hini poll 11. A MP And you heard him poll for Lord Sandon an Yes. r When you had told this story to your brother yhody send you to take your story down in wr i ,, t/ e 10 When did you first hear that you were to ce' ,out a week since. „ bd Flad you. told anybody what you were to sal I ne here except your ° brother in law ? -1.4 3rve. Who y is Mr. Hervey ?—A solicitor at Liverpo l-000 Flow came you to go to Mr. Hervey F—l wnt il. kla y d you heard that anybody that wen t and tOl.O re would come up to town and have go od esti" _F—No, I did not. Was not it understood in Liverpool do ne t • own concerns. toff Did not you know that if you went and told a j s io ce ° anything when you came to town you woniu „ bel t° .own and good eating and drinking e—l vcaut il- I drinking than I get at home. tler vel i Did not you know that if you went to Mr . - c oo .t you could say something about the electintirci Lt to town and well taken care of in town, 1..0( ;lc again.-1 wanted none of that; I did not g 4 nit it; I want no eating and drinking but Ivil'', 3o lll Do you . pay for your own eating and drinking What, in town ?—Yes. v ha te What have they given you altogether ? —T•le• money. Did they give you a subpoena ?—Yes. tl O/ what did they give you when they gave you re nothing to me, they gave it to my wife. o ba What did they give your wife ?—I cannot saY • wife; I was not by when she received it.date Oll (ou have no idea what your wife had F—l md. tnd that is all you had ?—I got none of that . no . f l )oes she keep a separate purse ?—She may w. rou do not expect anything else ?—No. gotr (ou have heard nothing about a re ward to b e , 4 reward. ' 0 14 -lave you heard anything about a large 1 c " , ied you do o, I ot have not. tudn expect to get anything but ,/,bst eived ?—No, I do not want anything. d l o te-examined by Mr. Rushton. 9 'ou say that Mr. Hervey served yo u with Vof• gave your wife about a pound • was that to °eV O A ing your absence?—lt was nothing. r a pY h i , ° lave you had any temptation or promiee,c' t wow ing your evidence ? No, I have no t ;an - n that account. . at if 'ou have come forward to give y o ur inforroa at st) sovereign, and the four half-crowns, vit ° o t I ement ?—Yes. Las any one told you when you came her e I°u se lie mined on your oath P—l knew I wa s to he e h. is?' os he oath has not been administered to You h 411 as not. n ole r . ou are speaking the truth as much as if Y -- iour oath ?—Yes. he witness withdrew. IR. ROBERT H OR SFALL was called in and ed tchinson as follows : ghat are you ?—A broker. to you live in Liverpool?—Yes, I do. ~ id a t . 11 , 0 i r 10 you know a man of the name of Brum e th at tr to you recollect being with any man? , o. l , or in the course of the election at allZiti, of Vere you with a man of the name of nil': t. , he t i up an entry in Dale-street?—No, I was --.° ovaci tid you give a man of that name, or o: f 600 nd and tour half crowns to vote or Lor card Douglas ?—No. . 1 • I ;bb e 4 r any other sum P—None whatever. I r i to you recollect whether you wore re. - , er card Douglas came into the field ?- 1 n e/ ' . el sts t ; at least I never showed it. the 0 to you know in Liverpool a family o', I?—Very well. hey are a father and five sons?—SiN su n l i e s l / , 4 1 °. ° to you know when that family polled? -- e br t what period of the election did they P A O ab!'" 0 be cf t what part of the second day ? — l t ruig-- h t oi l 0 . in hour or half an hour atter th e r ot' ning. AZ11—............--_... , L L e YrO_U quite sure that it was at the beginning of the second 'lh., I ru quite sure it was the first hour. ,1 yo n them poll?—I took them up myself. . " n t once when they went to poll ?—Directly. ra?:.gnros a c countfahlaseshboeoedn. given that those seven persons went the poll three se% eral times, and ran away, is it true or procure° e has said that you gave any money to any pers i o .s n a s votes for the election, is that true or false ?—lt Its falsehoo. r Cross-examined by Mr. Rushton. er e ~.... 0 . . l a , Juu. ccupied in the Vauxhall District ?—I was. vote. - : ereL station did you hold there ?—Taking the men up to You a captai n or a lieutenant ?—N either. . . . .. ;till swehvat time did toy You occupied entirely in the Vauxhall District ( i i ,d re ' d c ring the two days. _ . id the Moorcroft's live ?—ln Naylor-street. you go to Moorcrat's house ?—About what tieutile. did the Moorcroft's leave their house ?—About ere ? did you take them to ?—Up to the booth iu Vauxhall- , Y y °ll a band ?—We had. , . %more than one band ?—I think we had. ,a)ilattitake both bands at first P—l think we might have 0 e she with one band. t'itlcat take one band at first, or did you take both bands 1,;";:-We went with, perhaps, a smaller quantity of ni 1 k",..arat than we did the second time. "era twi ce ?.......yes. !ea if • ittii,re m a o ll or a y e b roe u ra f d ts y o li u : t s o s f aid th t e ha h t ou tl s i e er we ' i w th as on a e d b iffi an cu d l , ty di i d n tgheety le'f! truth or what is false ?—They said' hat is false. not at once did they ?—Not at first, because la y i :11 —4 " k a part a them to go upon the first occasion?— t, 1 1 , 4 ,, i d, You send for the second band ?—We did not . send s e(1 ,' lB `;' o .ok a turn up the street, and some more int i i 3 s y lcij lat they Th 4 nd we went to' Mo rcroft's house, and Lwll'at"tre assembld. ° 1 13 k r. -r ne was the e second visit P—About eight o'clock. accAo ekers with you ?—No he was not. iZers and Ried you to Moorcroft's?—One of the Mr. kdy,), e Mr Tomkinson and my brother. of t he awrass them previously to the election ?—I had seen ar l y r o rl e,a,,lld I think all. nput Moorcrofts make any stipulat , tr n o e r w a . n a Lc v o e n r : at foxyan 4,° 4 they would give their votes?-- h con or a t e ,I°a,t,t,d made for money?-INo. PW 51: f4 tibb ""e * -e %she °ns?—none. oft en 'T'.°,t ?—1 think there was for ribbons. e the e n you canvass them ?—I only saw them at the yeii etung before. l to e t a . ti vass the town generally before the election?— ea „ ; I t i l hi a tt ia hr _ (2 ' g a u ss ,Zy s‘ p ,s o te rt in ir i o m f t i h g e ht to n w y n before the election? meeting you the knew have asked them. tequainted with the freemen of Liverpool ? ally o i l. , -- onew pretty well. 4 ' ll lo "' previoitswt: "the election, or during it, ask tre et :eY or drank? —N one whatever. 'll4 — Freernen may have asked me for a glass LI ) ' ( ut tell • oad , • u s Whe n thi s was?—lt might be both the first y O, Itaeal.liever asked for a days wages ?—Never. at ,UaY's wages ?—Never. Y freema n2 —None whatever. heverie4:iet:a:d for morte).' made on you at all?—None a r Jost any where up near the booth. st r ,„',' 4l . go npon the second day to canvass?—lnns Yaul ! i to the Ptiblie houses ?—Yes. veral. I did not 1,1qm:1441;7 v•teeraen there ? r they would ceornelef r e u e p m e a n n r t l i : e i s o y a t and ade Isoamskee(elvatre itltileY a - •s • t i r ) art ' i eu g iar anY reason f or not go i ng to vo t e w ith you ? !liilPe atiwe klid t i ' lt.ll :Y make ?—I cannot recollect the words, You 4'4?-4 cannot say. i t a l l Y o ?--. B e o t t li h n i s i e rs %p u li d ca . tio u n u s d. upon the first as well as the ; t l deve:ae answerssegeiven to vou as numerously upon t el tßa.i er l s tne first? _perhaps Perhaps not, because I was more ~va Y )o ' ;',- ; , and the men came up better. ryo n a • :" aot know a freeman of the name of Era : s ln it?Larinlined the poll book to see whether Bruffield's k_ ~y4 Y ou d °' 4ie7ettai4 l y il lt °t• give hint a sovereign and four half ?llNncl d (4 ' • you stop persons as PI alone as of the election, did :3aiF,,,aasnkdedstpheeamk to come uthpat votepected to be ,seeomuale-street upon the secon a d nd da7?-- . 4 was there /04 6 ' 4 day. 0 . 1 3 , aY that you did not stop any man that you sus - y freeraa_n in Dale -street, upon the second day of yqg ---aterlamly, I did - not. 'NI Lnrcl Sandon' Committee-room ?—No. ~. t that,Blr Howard D s glas' Committee-room ?- -1 was. Ide. in Dale-street?" The front of the Hotel is 1 o tt , sic kan, t al l one in Moor-fields, whom you suspected to tikt,3o° rote h e I did not. Li, " You distinct,y to say, that in your intercourse u _ 4,1141%1 freem - upon the first and second days , f 4 for Y P were neither o a n sked for drink or money .—I You a t s . talc, hut not for money. w e ofth e e ra d wfor drink by the Liverpool freemen ?—I qa th were freemen. hsiltayrtL2lBteheasptpreliectations made ?—When I chanced to heXners have you ?—Four. 14 hit as -- One is. h a hti;4lc ?—Charles. 4, 44 brothers in • Liverpool?-one of the others 11,,,41(tiktz4t,its.a,eitshehrere and Thomas is in Liverpool. t• your e a v n id y en ex ce am th in e a y ti 4 tt link: / what til di d k have heard it spoken of. eoll You he eoenulwdasgitvaekemn this de- Exchange that re eq. ar that the application th‘ was made ?—I totti, I merely Understood. upon ,- 1 Up as witnesses. hs i t it"trantined b Mr. Hutchinson. the x : i .8 took place?—Within the last four or five 1 0 t °l4 ct lnitl ation of the other witnesses ? e re:ontiethilk)rtitiulearly about the- father and l th ' s o . se sons ththellyewitetr.tno ,Yearly house the fir f st th ti e m r e e , n ru th s r a e y e It ti cre, ' not all ready?—Only the a *1 rti t „! You h itte"alt t - ad a small band ?—Yes. oit , i_rle i ,, , van7x i h r a c it t ro r a o d u . nd the . town ?—Just up to kt.' "Mt tune were you joined by other musi iit; You ~, 4atfaitiseu pliolletilli le no u t ," say you were occasionly asked for of I, It -- Y e „" t t again and found them assembled ?— al Y e e h s y . kly la' doliVpantitv of ale mentioned ?—No; a glass I) , t „Ny 4„.would have been Sufficient. t, "kni t ,'" You for a barrel of ale ?—Never. 4 il o e ta , o r , as 8 l times Pit ' °l ale among a number of them 7—Cer '4„ B:c,tts to that Mr. Ackers went severa q11,.Y; thatllie and vote; that they, at d last, uud t went hel• t th ay; ahe then went with the ban . ted tk eh uod 1 . , , IS there one word . rd of truth in that ? .third time they went with the band, e 4 , o "at th is 4 9,na beginning to end. i l l 4 1 11 111 4 , , ar 1 4 1e n ot e hapr d n . y fr , orn m h o a s l t f- a p s a s s u t re s d ev ly en i tj Irt seetiBPeakiiig second " the second nd day, and I think ali t , B°Tzelliing of it if it had occurred on h 4311a,311'11 Put t t ou have seen it ? satit,,l il r a a p t i e d n o Y n o t u he re fi s r p s e t c d t a i y ng m t u h e e y Moorcrofts ru.n tahl ~ certain that I should have seen it, because i d something 'l4::4'4,,kre°;:s t f t l ia m t i l ly s , h t u h u e id fa h th av e e r a h n e d ur six sons, a ! a t, ai i t ' 4 , 4 ll ot hp, d , th , - ". l ' of any such circumstance ?—No, cer 'till)l4 ti. a l ' a r t e such respectable men that I cannot , tuo, lli tdr e „,. O ccurred. tt ‘'44 tail ed in and examined by Mr. Rushton, as k 4 hlh ll ov, - r th oh ,•• th, 0 ,P last election at Liverpool ?—Yes tole " ) d ii I ion in Dale Street ?—Y es Pa' l'cl th ' Z t p Ity Zre ?--I es . iconi ?....."--,,As flOorkeeper. tt 400 r, The front dtior • 1 kept the door of the THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD. Was the Committee of one of the candidates held there ?- - Yes, Lord Sandon's. How long were YOU employed there ?—Five days. By whom were you engaged ?—By Mr.. Henry Wilson. Did you see Mr. James Ackers, at the Golden Lion.—Yes. Was Air. Ackers much inquired for there ?—Yes. Was he generally asked for ?—Yes, on the second day. Did you see any other gentlemen there ?—Yes. Mention their names.—l cannot tell exactly their names. Do you remember the evening of Wednesday, the first day of the election ?—Yes. Did you see Mr. Wilson there ?—Yes. Did he come to the door at which you stood ?—Yes. Did you hear what he said ?—Yes, he said it is all up with us, we must do something more. Did you go into the Committee R oom ?—Yes. Do you remember the morning of the second day ?—Yes. Were there many drunken men about the house that day ? Yes ' there were many intoxicated with liquor. Do you remember four- men in particular among them; how were they dressed ?—ln a blue jacket and trowsers. Had vou observed them about the inn for a long time ?—Not a long time. About how long ?—About half an hour. Did they ask for Mr. Ackers Did he come out to them ?—He did. Did he take them on one side?—He had some conversation with one of them. _ How far where they from you ?—There was one of them close by the side of me. Did you see anything pass between Mr. Ackers and those people ?—Yes. What was it ?—l' saw some sovereigns wrapped in a red rib. bon, he pulled them out of . his breeches pocket, and thrust them into the man's hand. 'Was that after the conversation ?—Yes. Did the man go among them ?-L—The man went away pre sently. As there are several Mr. Ackers, will you describe Mr. Ackers to me P—He is a histy man, he is one, of the Commis sioners of the Watch. _ _ You say you saw the sovereigns wrapped .in a red ribbon, how many were there ?—I cannot say; there might be four or five, or less. At what time in the day did this occur ?—Between 11 and 12 o'clock. _ Did you see Mr. Ackers after this conversation with one of the four say anything to the remaining three ?—Yes, he went and conversed with them, he put his hand in his pocket, and gave them ribbons wrapped up, similar to what the money was in. Were their ribbons folded up in the same way ?—Yes, they were. _ Were the ribbons given loose or wrapped Up ?—Wrapped up. Did you see from whence Mr. Ackers took those ribbons ? Out of his right hand small clothes pocket. Do you remember seeing a woman come to the room ? Yes. _ _ _ When was it?—Towards the afternoon, it might be between two and three o'clock. . _ _ Did she say what her business was I—Yes, she asked me to let her in to Mr. Ackers, that she wanted a ribbon from him. Did you let her in ?—No, I told her that I could not admit her for that purpose. Did she say anything else then I—She told me it was not the ribbon altogether that she wanted, that her husband had polled, that she had a family, and she wanted something to put her over the winter, and then I admitted her in. Did you see her come out of the room ?—Yes. Did she say any thing to you after she came out P—No, there were some gentlemen at the door, and I did not have any con versation with her then. .• In the case you have mentioned of the gold being wrapped up did you distinctly see the gold ?—I saw the gold : the ribbon was wrapped round it on one way only, it was nut crossed. Only the edge was seen ?—Yes. Did you see the edges then ?—Yes I did. What occasioned you to mention Mr. Ackers particularly ? On account of his being enquired for so snitch by the men that came there. _ _ _ _ . Did you see Mr. Ackers give ribbons out of his small-clothes pocket to any other person ?-- . Yes, he gave them loose .fre quently. Did you notice the men about the Golden Lion on the Wed nesdav ?—I could not say. . _ _ _ Were they intoxicated on that day ?—No, they were sober all day. Did Toll notice any difference in their appearance upon the Thursday What condition were they in upon the Thursday ?—They were iutoxicated with liquor. Cross-examined by Mr. Rogers. You say you saw some sovereigns wrapped up in a red rib bon : in what way were those sovereigns wrapped up ?—ln pull ing them out of his right-hand small-clothes pocket he had the ribbons with the sovereigns wrapped in. How were the sovereigns wrapped in this ribbon ?—The rib bon was wrapped one way round. • . How near was he standing to you ?—Close by the right of me. Were there many people standing round ?—Not many at that time. ..... How was the ribbon put on : was it turned over or tied over ? —I cannot say whether it was pinned or no. Were the sovereigns fastened or loose ?—They were fastened in by the ribbon. How were they fastened ?—By wrapping the ribbon round. Was the ribbon so fastened as to keep the sovereigns together? —Yes. _ . What was the width of the ribbon ?—lt might be an inch wide or an inch and a quarter. Just describe how it was fastened ?—I cannot say whether it was pinned or sewed. Did you look ?—I looked particularly at the gold, at the sove reigns . Was there a little socket made in the ribbon or a little pocket ? —No it was wrapped round. Was it wrapped round the sovereigns entirely, leaving only the edge or brow ?—lt was upon the centre of the sovereigns SQ that you could distinguish the edges of the gold. • Do you mean that the ribbon crossed the sovereign in the centre ?—Yes. Do you mean that there was a little bit of a pocket in the rib bon holding the sovereigns, or was it a large bit of ribbon ?: - ---The ribbon was wrapped round the sovereign. Was the ribbon hanging down ?—No the ribbon was wrapped round the sovereign altogether. Which way did he hold it in•his hand ?—He held it between fingers. Where was the ribbon then ?—On the sovereigns. Was there no ribbon hanging down.—No. Where could you see the red ribbon if there.was none hanging down ?—I could see the ribbon in his hand as he took it out of his pocket. Did the ribbon continue in his pocket when he had it in his hand ?—No. How much ribbon was there about those sovereigns ?—I can- . not say. Was there any hanging down ?-No. Then he had it in his hand like a pinch of snuff ?—He had it. between his fingers. What was the colour of the ribbon?—Red. Well, you undertake to say that you saw no ribbon hanging down about those sovereigns ?—Yes, I will. You say he is a full jolly man ?—He is a lusty man. With a good stout hand ?—Yes. A good large thumb ?—I cannot tell for the size of his thumb. Will you undertake to say that if a man holds up five sove reigns in his finger and thumb so as to shew you the edges, you can see ribbon there without any ribbon hanging down ?—There was no ribbOn hanging down. And yet you undertake to swear that you saw the ribbon wrapped round the sovereigns ?—Y es. What quantity of sove-' reigns there was I cannot say. How did you know they were sovereigns ?—I saw the edges of them. Will you undertake to state that they were not shillings ? Yes, they were sovereigns. And you positively state that you saw them sufficiently well to say they were sovereigns and not shillings ?—Yes. How long was this passing from his hand into the man's hand ? —Not long. Did he give it him directly ?—Yes. As quick as possible.—Yes. And you undertake to say it was five sovereigns and not five shillings ?—I cannot say that it was five. But you undertake to say that they were sovereigns ?—Yes. You say that the other three men had ribbons wrapped up in the same way : where was that ?—At the Golden Lion Yard. At the same time ?—Soon afterwards. How near were you to Mr. Ackers then ?—As far as from here to that door. Now tell us what you saw pass there ?—They had some con versation together and he pulled the ribbons out of his pocket and gave them to those men. What sort of ribbons were they ?—Red ribbons. Did you see any thing else besides the red ribbon ?—Nothing. How did you seethe red ribbons . ?-41e gave them openly to those men. Oi:enly in his hand ?—Yes. How did he give them ?—le drew them out of his right pocket and gave them to them : he pulled the ribbons out. Were those long pieces of ribbon he gave ?—I cannot say. But you must say whether they were long or short ?—They were wrapped up. You can tell whether they were large bundles of ribbon ?--I could not say which as they were far from me. About what time of the day was it ?—Between eleven and twelve. In the day-time . ?—Yes. You have suited that you were the doOr-keeper, were there many _persons coming round . the door ?—A great many on Thursday. Were there many persons round there at that time ?—Not at that time. There were some I suppose 7—Yes. How many do you suppose there Were 7—l cannot pretend to say. `Vas there any person you saw there except yourself ?—I can not say. Did you know any of those men ?—No. Have you ever made any enquiry about, those men since ? No, I have not. _ _ Can you undertake to say whether they were freemen or not ? —I cannot say. , Du von know whether they were strangers or not . ?-I cannot say, they were dressed in blue jackets. The witness withdrew. Mr. JAMES AcKEns was called in and examined by Mr. Hutch inson as follows.— What are you ?—A brewer. You live in Liverpool?—Near Liverpool: Were you a member of Lord Sandou's committee at the last Election ?—I wag. - - . _ _ _ _ Were you.at the Golden Lion on the second day of the elec tion z—l was. - Do you know a person of the name of James Kehoe who was a porter there at that time ?—I do not. Did you ever hire any porter there ?—I never did. Were you about the,Golden Lion all the day ?—Both days. , Do you recollect being inquired for by any person upon iliose days ?—Very often by many. Did you upon either of those days fold five sovereigns in a ribbon and give them to any person ?—No. Did you fold any other money in a ribbon and . give it to any person ?—Never. If a man has said that you folded five sovereigns or any other money in a ribbon is that true or altogether uttrly false?--Ltit terly false. Did you give a sovereign without a ribbon ?—I had not a so vereign in my pocket during the two days of the election. Did you give any money whatever to any mau either before or after he voted ?—I did not. Did you give any drink during these days ?—Nor drink nei• ther. Were you chairman of the canvassers' committee before the election ?—I was. Was your room in Water-street ?—lt was. Did you attend there pretty constantly ?—Every day some part of the day. Did you ever see any freemen there who came there and asked for money P—Never. Were you asked by freemen for money at all ?—I never was. Were you present at Lord Sandon's committee on the first night of the election ?—I was. Do you recollect a deputation corning from Sir Howard ,Douglas's committee ?—I heard that there was a deputation up stairs, I was down below in one of the committee rooms. Did you go up upon hearing that there was a deputation ?—I did. Do you know what it was that they came to talk about? — They had nearly finished their conversation—it was something about their wishing . Sir Howard Douglass to retire. Was any proposition made about the men being struck off 'from their work the next day ?—I had got information 'brought to me, that they were going to put the oaths the following day, for the purpose of signing them, and, also, that they were going to give the men the half day's wages. That the other party were going to do that ?—Yes. 'Was any thing said about the latter part of that subject at your committee-room ?—I said if that was the case we must do the same, Did you say that upon your own mere motion or upon con sulting with any other part of the committee ?—There was no consultation at all. Upon your starting that proposition how was it received ? Our chairman, Mr. Latvrence, said that if we should lose our election for sake of half a day's wages, he would not agree to it. Was it taken into consideration any farther than that ?—lt was blown over in a moment. _ Was such a proposition revived again or acted upon in any way ?—lt was not non mentioned again either at that time or any time afterwards. • Cross-examied by Mr. Rushton. You were a member of that select committee ?—I was 'Did the general committee sit at the Golden Lion ?—lt did. Mr. Hutchinson.—ls that your brother; Mr. Joseph Ackers's handwriting ? (a paper being shown to the witness.)—lt is. He is unwell ?—He is very unwell; he has been confined three weeks to his house.—The paper was handed in. • - Mr. Rushton.—Were there two committees ?—There was the canvassing committee, of which I was the chairMan,'which sat at the bottom of Water-street, and the general committee as sembled at the Golden Lion. .Were you frequently at both places ?—Frequently. Were you, before the election, chiefly at the canvassers' com mittee ?—Certainly. Were returns made to you of the canvass ?—Yes. What result did the returns show ?—They shoWed upon the canvass who they were going to vote for, and whatever answers they got the) put down. .What result did they shew ; they shewed a majority, did they not ?—Yes, they did. Was that majority confined to the working-classt4 it was a majority generally. Was that amount of majority considerable ?—I think not. Was it at this time that the notice'was given that no bribery or corruption would. be tolerated P—No, that was stuck up, ten days before the election, in the committee-room. At what time were .those returns made to you ?—Every day.. When were they completed ?—They were not completed even at the commencement of the election. During the two days of the election, were you at Water-street or at the Golden Lion P—At the Golden Lion. • • Where was• the general committee-room ?—ln the front par lour. Was there a porter at the door of that committee-room ? There was at all the committee-rooms; Were you called out of that committee-room during those two days ?—frequently. I3y whom-?—Some people that I cannot recollect. You know the freemen of Liverpool well?—Very well. Were the parties that called you out freemen ?—Some were, and some were not. I was called out upon my own business. How often upon your own business ?—I think twice. How many times were you called out of the room altogether? —I do not know. Fifty I—No, not half. UTun both days 7—Upon both days. You say some of them were burgesses; what did the bur ,.gesses want with you I—Many of them wanted to know where they must get their numbers from, and I took them into another room that we had for that purpose. Did any of them ask you how it was to be this time ?—No they did not. Not any of them ?—Not one of them. Did they ask you what they were to have ?—No. Did they ask you for anything to drink ?—No they did not. Did they ask you for anything to that effect ?—No. - Did they ask you for half a day's wages?—One man did. I think his name was Cain, a ship carpenter. • . Do you know him to be a freeman ?—Yes, I do. Was Cain alone when he made this proposition ?—He was. Did he make it publicly or take you aside?—He did not take -me aside. I was standing in the street. He said, it is very hard we cannot have half day's pay. lam working at the lower end of the town and I have to go up to poll. When those'parties sent for you out of the room did any of them take you aside?—node. They spoke to you openly ?—Yes. And with the exception of Cain there was no one that asked for anything?—There was another, a man that came from' Aintree, five miles from Liverpool, and he asked me whether there was,,not any refreshments allowed, and I told him that - there was not anything allowed; and I said if there was any. thing it would be only a shilling for bread and cheese and a •pint of ale, and it is not worth your while to have that. Then with the exception of Cain and this man, none of those that called you out of the room asked you for money or drink, or ale, or wages, or any fee or reward, for their vote ?—They did not. • Did they make any enquiry whether there was anything given .or not ?,---1;:o, they did not. Did they say anything which induced vou to believe that they. required something for their votes ?—tertainly not, except what I have mentioned. Had you known these men previously ?—No, I do not re collect one man, except the one I have stated to you. Do not you recollect,a man of the name of Careful?—l do. What is he ?—A carpenter. ' Did anything . pass between Careful and yourself respecting his vote P—Certainly not. When did you see him during the election ?—I did not see him during the election neither of the days. Did he send for you ?—He did not. Had you any intimation that he would not poll without you ? —I had'not. • That he had declined to poll unless you were present ? Nothing of the sort. You did not know that Careful voted perhaps ?—1 did not. Had you any ribbons on those days ?—I had. Were those ribbons folded up or were they loose ?—Both ways. From whom bad you those ribbons P—From Mr, Wilson. What Mr. Wilson ?—Henry Wilson, he is a draper. At what time did he .give you those ribbons ?—I cannot tell exactly, at ten o'clock probably. Were the ribbons wrapped in paper P—Some were and some were not. Did you unwrap them ?—Some of them. Did you unroll all the ribbons that Mr. Henry Wilson gave to you folded P—Certainly not. Where did you carry them P—ln my waistcoat pocket. Where had you the loose ones?--In my coat pocket. . You are an old electioneerer ?—Certainly. Did you ever know a man /any ribbons in his waistcoat pocket before?—Often, I always used to do it. You had two sorts of ribbons P—No they were all of one kind. But. some were folded up in small parcels, some in paper, some without paper, both folded P—No, those that were without paper were not folded, they Were loose: a dozen ribbons were given to me, and I put them in my coat pocket. You say you carried the 'folded ribbons in your waistcoat pocket, what size were they ?—About the size of one of these gloves. Were any of those ribbons which were folded up wrapped in paper?—To be sure. , Were the separate ribbons wrapped in paper ?—Certainly ; separate ribbons wrapped in paper were given tame folded up. Were any of those ribbons given to you folded without paper? —None at all. Did you take any of the papers off ?—I opened some of them. For what purpose?—l cannot say. Did you ye away any of those which you had taken the paper off?—Yes. Did you give those to any of the parties that sent for you out of the room?—No; I did not give them to any body that sent for me out of the room. I gave to any body promiscuously. Did you, in a singe instance, give to any of those parties sending for you out of the room, any of these folded ribbons?— ' did not. Not in one single instance ?—Not in one single instance. That you distinctly and positively recollect ?—I do nof. Then tell me where you gave these folded ribbons away ? At the outside of the door I was plagued by every person, and in order to get rid of them I gave them those ribbons. You were frequently at the outside of the door of the Golden Lion ?—Frequently. The pb.rties were standing around the Golden Lion door, .were not they?—Hundreds. • Freemen as well as others ?—Yes. Is not there a passage between the front room of the Golden Lion, and the door leading into the hail of the Golden Lion?— Leading into the kitchen, and leading into the lobby. There is another passage from the lobby into the street?—Yes. At which dimr of that passage was the porter stationed ?—I think there were two porters, one at the front door and one at the parlour door. So that if you were passing. from the parlour of the Golden Lion to any of the parties who sent for you out, it was per fectlypossible for either or both of those parties to see 'you ? Certainly. When you got• to the outside of the Golden Lion, people usually asked you fur ribbons I understand ?—Not always, but frequently. Did you give a folded ribbon to those people that teased you?-Yes. You say you unfolded a part of them, but not all?--Not all. And'Mr. Henry Wilson gave them to you ?—He did:. • Was Mr.. Henry Wilson a member of the committee?—Yes. Had he the distribution of the ribbons ?—lie had. Where were the ribbons kept ?—Kept by him, l oc k e d up in a box, amongst his papers and books. What sort of a box ?—A tin box. How often did you receive supplies of ribbons from Mr. H. Wilson P—l think I got about. three dozen altogether. • What proportion of them were folded cannot say. Were a dozen of them folded ?—I do not know any thing about it. Were half a dozen folded ?—I do not know how many there were. I want to know what proportion of the ribbons were folded.— There might be half of theta, What proportion of those that were folded did you unfold.— Two or three of them, Why did you unfold them ?---I do not exactly recollect why I did it now. . But the ribbons folded - up you gave away ?—I And if you gave them to any person in the passage of the committee-room, at the Golden Lion, the porter must have seea it.—Certainly. You said you never hired a porter yourself ?—Never, and I should not know them now. On the night of the first day, you were present at the com mittee meeting, at the Golden Lion ?—I was. Did you hear the commencement of' the conference with the deputation?—l did not. Did you hear the conclusion of it ?—Yes, I did. The con clusion was, that Mr. Leyland said he would stand the contest till the last moment. Who is Mr. Leyland ?—A banker in Liverpool. Was he a member of Sir Howard Douglas's committee ? Yes. Is he a magistrate ?—Yes. Has he been mayor ?—Yes. He is one of the corporation of` course ?—Yes. Did the deputation from Sir Howard Douglas's committee remain after this conversation F—l think some did and some did not. Was there an union of the committee after the first day ? I think not, I never saw any of them there before that night, nor after. YoU told my learned friend that in consequence of the information you got, you suspected the opposite party were going to put the bribery oath for delay, and were going to give the men half a day's wages. Now, as an old electioneer, and with a majority of 600, would vou think of giving half a week's day's for votes ?—I should think so from the disposition of the men, that I think a very trifling sum would have served them at that time. Who informed you that the opposite party were going to give wages ?—I do not know, some of our canvassers brought that information. Were those men usually employed at elections ?—They were some of our old canvassers. Did you propose any specific sum P—l proposed that if they were going to give hail a day's wages, that we should do the. same, and I said that would lie about the value of 2s, 6d. Did you mention a thousand half crowns P—l did not. Nor any number of half crowns ?---Nor any number of half crowns. Did you mention what number of votes would be required to save the election ?—I did not. Did you say you had made any calculation of the number" that would poll upon the second day ?—I did not. • Did you say any thing which lea the party to 'believe that the amount of a thousand half crovins would save the election' —No, I did not, nor-any thing like it. Was Mr. Thomas Horsfall present ?—I think not. Was Mr. Charles Parker piesent ?—I think he was. Was Mr. Joseph Sanders present ?—I do not recollect.' Did Mr. Thomas liorsfall make any similar proposition in, your presence ?—No. When you said that half a day's wages would be necessary if the other party did it, did any body scout that at once, was it treated with contempt?—Yes, 111 r. 'Lawrence did say, tnat if• the election depended upon half a day's wages, he would not be a party to it. •Did any body else say it?—Not at all, it was-not mentioned by any body. Did any body else treat the proposition with contempt ?—I •did not hear any body else but Mr. Lawrence. • Then you did not hear it condemned, by any body but Mr. Lawrence ?—Not in my presence. If you did not say a thousand half crowns, did you say a few half crowns ?—I said that half a day's wages would be about 2s. 6d. 'Did you, or did you not use the word " half crown ?"—I did in that instance. Did you mention 2s. 6d, or did you mention half a crown ? Hhalf a crown. Did you mention a few half crowns ?—I did not. • Then if any body has said that you mentioned a few half crowns is t hat untrue ?—lt is. • Then no such thing was said ?—Not by me. CONSClBNCE.—Conscience, like all our other powers, comets to maturity by insensible degrees; and may be more aided in strength and vigour, by proper culture.—Rid. 'fuss: TASSIONS.-A man can always conquer his passions if he - T/eases); but 4e cannot always phase to conquer his passions.