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intrb Mbitton SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Cloch EXCHEQUER.-(THIS DAY.) (Sittings in Banco.) THE ATTORNET-GENERAL v. STILLER. T The LORD CHIEF BARON gave judgment in this case. he Court considered that a certain discretion was left to the Excise•office with respect to the mode of returning the grain into the " couch ;" piling it in the form of a cone in the centre. The officer had not acted impro perly in this case, the judgment would therefore be for the Crown. THOMPSON v. LANGHIDGE. In this case the Court made the rule absolute. SHERIFFS' COURT.-(THIS DAY.) (Before Mr. Under-Sheriff BURCHELL.) POWERS Y. MAGEE AND LIVINGSTON. This was an action to recover the sum of 181. 19s. 7d. for blacksmith's work done to the ship " Nabob," for mer ing in the St. Katherine's Dock, of which the defen ta, who are merchants in Liverpool, are owners. T,he defendants pleaded that they were not indebted. Mr. Thomas appeared for the plaintiff, and Mr. Ser geant Wilkins for the defendants. The case lasted a consideratle time, and was not of general interest. The defence was that the work had been done on the order of a person named Furnie, a shipstnith, who had, in fact, arrested the captain of the ship for the amount, which was paid to him. Furnie was called, and swore that he nave the orders and held himself responsible, but he had a dispute wish the plaintiff on alitr matters, ard conse quftly had not settled. Mr. Lir.klatcr, the defendant's solicitor, was called, and proved that previously to the settlement of the action by Furnie, plaintiff distinctly admitted that the orders had been given by Furney. Mr. Gardiner, merchant, of Great St. Helen's, con firmed this evidence, and that plaintiff said he could not make out an account against the owners, for he must look to Furnie as his mastor. He (witness) had on be half of the owners said they were anxious to protect him as far as possible, and if he could point out one single claim for work done by order of either of the owners on their own account, they would pay. Pkintiff said he could not, but when Furnie could not he found, the defendants had told him to go on with the work, and Mr. Magee had had the bill. Mr. THOMAS contended that the adoption of the order by the defendatus, in consequence of the absence of l'arnie, rendered them liahlw, and that the plaintiff's opinion as to his legal right ought not to be taken agakst him. The jury gave a v?rdiet for the defendants. IMPERIAL PA RUA - MU:NT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his seat on the Woolsack as Deputy Speaker at Four o'clock, and the swearing in of Peers was proceeded with until fin, o'clock. Atnon4 the Pt-us who took the oaths, we noticed Lord Foley, Lord Dunally, the Bishop of Oxford, &c. ANSWER TO THE ADDRESS Earl SPENCER. brought up the answer to the Address. COMMERCIAL DISTRESS. Lord STANLEY gave notice that he should on Tuesdik move for the appointtnent of a Committee to consider the commercial distret , s at present existing in the country, and he wished to know• whether the Government would consent to the appointment of such Committee. Earl GIIEY, who spot, e in a very low tone, was understood to say that it was the intention of the Government:themse:ves to move for the appointment of a Committee of that 'louse of a simihr nature to the Committee to be moved for in the other Houle. Lord .-_ , :"I'ANLEY would, tinder those cireum staLces, withdraw his notice. BANK RESTRICTION. Lord ASHBURTON asked whether it was true that on Thursd3y last the Bank directors had resolved that it was expedient to reduce the rate of interest from 8 per cent. to 7 per cent., and that it was not until the Mosiday following that they had received the letter of the First Lord of the Treasury, and of:the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to make some reduction in the rate of interest, and whether the mercantile community was therefore thus kept in a tate ofsuspension from theThurtday until the Monday? Earl GREY complained that the question had been asked without notice. Ile had no doubt, how ever, that whatever had been done had been done upon an understanding between the Bank authorities and the Government ; but he could not at present give an answer to the question. Lord ASIIBURTON would give notice of the question for a future day. SCOTCH REPRESENTATIVE PEERS. The Duke of BUCCLEUCII moved that the mi nutes of the last election of Scotch Peers be printed. Agreed to. COMMERCIAL DISTRESS. Lord STANLEY said he would postpone his motion for a Committee on the commercial distress, of Lich he had given notice for Tuesday, but he won pot withdraw it altogether, until he knew exactly the terms of the motion to be brought forward by the Ministers. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. A number of Members, amongst whom were Sir De Lau Evans and Mr. Morgan John O'Connell, took the oaths and their seats. Sir R. 11. Inglis, Lord G. Somerset, Lord Ashley, and several other Members whose names we could not catch, presented petitions against the admis sibility of Jews into Parliament. EDINBURGH ELECTION. The gp EAKER said he had to acquaint the House that he had received a letter from Mr. Cowan, who had been elected as one of the Members for Edinburgh, in which that gentleman stated that, in consequence of his being a contractor to her Majesty for the supply of stationery, a fact he was not aware of at the time of his election, he was disqualified from taking the oaths, ftnd he had, therefore, to inform the House that he should decline taking his seat. DUBLIN ELECTION. A petition was presented against the return of Mr. Reynolds fit)r the city of Dublin, which was ordered to be referred to a Select Committee. FACILITATING PUBLIC BUSINESS. Mr. BROTHERTON rose and said—l wish to offer a suggestion to the House, which I hope will be acceded to. lam sure no Member wishes— The SPEAKER intimated that the Hon. Member was not quite in order. Lord GEORGE BENTINCK (across the table) ..Why don't you give notice. Mr. BROTHERTON (with considerable empha sis)—l wish to offer a suggestion to the House— namely, whether it would not be expedient until the Christmas holidays that the orders of the day should take precedence of notices of motions. I say no Hon. Member can wish to stop in town at this season of the year.—(Loud cheers and laughter.) I do think, therefore that we ought to confine our selves now t o public business of the greatest irm- Polgance.—(Renew e d cheering.) I offer this suggestion because I believe, if it be adopted, that the public bu siness will be much expedited, and I think it will also be a gseat convenience to the House. Here the matter dropped. DISPUTED RETURNS. A petition was presented against the return for Stockport. The name of the Hon. Member objected to did not 'each the gallery. EAST AND WEST INDIES. Lord G. BENTINCK gave notice of his intention to move for returns respecting the condition and pros pects of the East and Wrest Indies and the Mauritius, with a view to their relief. POOR-LAW ADMINISTRATION. Mr. BANKES moved for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Poor-law Administration Act, by re ducing the amount of charges to which the unions are liable under the existing Act. The Hon. Mem ber also moved for returns of the names of all persona who have ac t e d as comm i ss i oners o f t h e poor -l aw since the ht of January to the present time. CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS DISABILITIES OF __. Lord jolui THE -- dapJEW-S. _ fortnight , e RUSSELL gave notice that this relief of her he bring in a Bill for the further reli i f o „ . .- (1 i e .'tY's Jewish subjects from civil —F, nr.arfoEr t disabilities. Mr. B. OSBOR Iltis Tr „, ing the estates tuT B ;return respect the than agetnent of o l f r the i Re ceiver-General and aurt of Chancery Agreed to. BUSINESS .°EgaTvielnOti-ice that he e a w n o d u: Sir J. PAKNGToN --- HOUSE. liebriat upon an early day, move that, until dens of the day should have Christma s, all or: motion. precedence over notices of RATES OF DISCOVNT AT TILE BANK Mr: KNIGHTLEY moved for a return f , e -minimum rates of disc o unt charged by the B an k ° r England since the passing of the Act of 1844, with the variations in the same. The OLIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he had conferred - with the Governor and Direc- tors of the Bank of England upon the subject, and they had no objection whatever to grant the returns. Mr. F. BARING suggested the propriety of having all the returns and doc uments with respect to "aNStWiliraitif England laid upon the table as early as Z ?1- -j a$11114; • "\ M` t--....,-- ' ISIEkIIA—IE thought that the return moved for :'_ i, 1-;_kr - the nOtolember would be amended by the addi • . 'Tr' , Tl9n-tliiretq. of the minimum rates of discount charged _by - the Baiti,kf England since the year 1835. I 'N I . . 1.4 4 ii, yin — was agreed to. - ----- -----4,- , )ti `I s" fi1.2 1 , SUN, LONDON, SCOTCH ENTAILS. Mr. B. COCHRANE wished to know whether it was the intention of the Government to bring in any measure for the amendment of the law relating to entailed estates in Scotland ? Sir G. GREY said that a Bill was in an advanced state, and would,no doubt be brought forward by the ' Lord Advocate at an early period of the session. POOR-LAW SETTLEMENT. Sir J. PAKINGTON wished to know whether the Government intended to bring in any measure for the improvement of the present law of settlement of the poor. Sir G. GREY was . not prepared at present to sa y that he would do so. He did not, however, wish it to be understood that no Bill would be brought forward upon the subject. BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS. Sir J. PAKINGTON wished to know, from the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, whether it was his intention to bring in any Bill on the sub ject of the bribery and corruption reported to have taken place at the recent elections. Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Government did not intend to introduce any measure on the subject. ROMAN CATHOLIC CHARITIES. Mr. ANSTEY moved for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the law relating to Roman Catholic chart.. ties. The mischief which the Bill sought to remedy was recited in the preamble, and was shortly this :—Down to a recent period, under the general provisions of a law, the profession of the Roman Catholic religion was rendered unlawful, and it was also made an illegal act to make any endowment for the advancement of the Roman Catholic religion. The enactments by which relief was given to the Roman Catholics certainly took away thet stigma from their religion ; but there was considerable doubt ts to the retrospective effect of these Acts, and it was very much in doubt, in consequence of the deci sion of the present Lord Chancellor of England, whether Roma❑ Catholic charities, established at the period when the law of Superstitious Uses was in force, were at the present day legal To meet that mischief he proposed by his Act to give a retro spective effect to the Relief Acts, and thereby enable Roman Catholics in this country to obtain relief in the courts of England. This Bill, if carried, would give to Catholic charities the same effect as was proposed by the Lord Chancellor to be given to Protestant charities by the Bill he intended to bring in. The Roman Catholics did not desire to screen their charities from laves• tigation, and they were willing to have their charities investigated by the courts of this country. lie proposed by his Bill to give the Lord Chancellor the same jurisdiction in Catholic trusts that he n ow had in Protestant. The other Bill, of which he had given notice, was a Bill for the repeal of the statutes ;S hick inflicted penalties on the practice of the R ,- ,man Catholic religion in this country. Many of those - penalties were out of use, but still, until the Acts were repealed, they might he enforced. The Honourable and Learned Member concluded by moving for leave to bring in a Bill for the better admini,tration of trusts in favour of her Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects. Mr. O'GORM AIN MAHON seconded the motion. Sir GEORGE GREY would not offer any objsction to the introduction of the Bill; but I e apprehended the Ilen. and Learned Member would find more difficulty than he anticipated in the progress of the Bill. He would not pledge himself to do more than give a fair consideration to the measure. 11 ith respect to the second Bill, he had no ottjeetion to its introduction. Sir R. INGLIS objected as much as ever to the a.oasure proposed by the Honourable and Learned lhmber. Ile believed that her Majesty's Al!inisters would do well to instruct the la At advisers of the Crown to watch the Bill as first introduced in order to see whether it did not hazird in a great measure the Act for the eupre tr acv of the Crown. He was very touch mistaken if' the me sure did not involve questions of far greater importance than appeared at first sight. The Church of Rome was on the aggressive not only in England, but in every place throughout Europe; and hen this Bill came on again, he hoped Government would be prepared to state upon what authority the Church of Rome had been permitted to create indepen dent dioceses in provinces within her Majesty's domi , nions. He should be glad, too, if Government would at the same time furnish him with any instance where the Church of Rome had been permitted to exec• cise that authority in any country in Europe without the sanction of the Sovereign. lie contended that the Church of Rome hitherto had never attempted to create any new bishopric without the consent of the sovereign power within whose dominions the bishopric was to be established, and he should expect, when this Bill came on for discussion again, that Government would be prepared to state whether the consent of her Majesty or her predecessor had ever been given to the creation of new Catholic bishoprics within her Majesty's dominions.—(Hear, hear.) lie did not feel it neces sary to trouble the House further, because a Mem ber, on his first coming into the House, and asking for leave to bring in a Bill which did not involve the violation of a principle, expected to be permitted to introduce it /13 a matter of course, and he should not have occupied the time of the House so long had the Hon. Gentleman con fined his observations to the provisions of his Bill. Mr. HUME really thought the House ought to be on its guard against the remarks of the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down, for if he was not very greatly mistaken, the question whether the jurisdiction of the Pope should be extended to this country, had no connexion with the 8111 now under discussion.— (Hear, hear.) If he understood the Bill properly, it was to place the property of Roman Catholics upon the same footing as that of Protestants, and he faneied the Hon. Gentleman who had introduced it had spoken the opinion of the House upon the subject.—(Hear, hear.) It was admitted in the last Parliament that the time had ar rived when their Roman Catholic brethren ought to be placed on the same footing as themselves ; and, so far from this Bill meeting with opposition, he trusted it would have the support of individuals of great weight in that House, who stated their opinions in favour of such a measure during the last Parliament. Lord ARUNDEL and SURREY said he should support the Bill. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. Mr. ANSTEY then moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the further repeal of penal enactments against Roman Catholics on account of their religion. Leave was also given to bring in the Bill. CAPTAIN MORRIS ANee THE CATHOLIC CLERGY. Mr. MAHER moved for copies of correspondence between the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and the Roman Catholic Clergy of the diocese of Cashel, rela tive to reports made by Captain Morris, a Government Inspector under the Board of Works in Ireland, re fleeting upon the character of certain of the Catholic Clergy of that diocese. in the parish where he re sided, the Catholic clergy, besides performing their ordinary duties and attending and visiting the sick, had also attended the relief committees, and rendered effective service, for which they received the thanks of the Government Inspector. The Roman Catholic clergy of that part of the county memorialised the Lord Lieutenant to institute an inquiry into certain charges made against them by Captain Morris; but from some unaccountable cir cumstance their application was refused. All he the Hon. Member) required was a thorough investi gation ; and he_ conceived that the production of the correspondence in question would, by vindicating these clergymen, set them right with the Government and the people of the country. Mr. LABOUCHERE said the House would ex cuse him replying to the question, as at the time in question be had the honour to hold the office of Secretary for Ireland. Captain Morris was one of the officers appointed by the Government to super intend the distribution of provisions in Tipperary. Ile (Mr. Labouchere) had no hesitation fin admit ting that in this and some other instances expressions found their way into the reports of the officers en gaged to discharge similar duties, which, though those who made them considered themselves justified in what they did, it would have been well if they had not been made public.—(Hear, hear.) Captain Morris stated in his report that some of the clergy of Tipperary had not done their duty, as they kad not in many instances, assisted to check the abuses which prevailed in that part of Ireland. But the charge was not a general one, and therefore he could not see that any good would arise from an inquiry into the particulars of this case, because such a step would involve the necessity of publishing the names of perhaps a number of individuals. He had written to Captain Morris on the subject, and he had explicitly stated in reply that he did not wish to convey a general charge; he said as a body they had performed their sacred office well. But in large bodies like that of the Roman Catholic clergymen therf o duties. re asii o th f elr e reland, th ere were found some who neglected It hi l a i s o n so . t e h n i d s e t a would it he be a m d would . able to go into the niinut t • • ae of every case of this kind which he would ask was brought before the House ; Ireland ?—(Henr whether he any advantage would result to mittees appointed to Those . who had sat on Corn similar subjects woulod, make inquiries last session on w hen he stated that such N i vas sure, agree with him no public advantage.— merestirtions resulted in no objection to produce copiers.o)f le had, however, Ile must: he allowed to say that the correspondence received the most valuable assistance(foovernment had Catholic le: gy as a body, and he incerrelm t the R omai , no individual cases, however much they ini4rtreted that d, would induce the House to forget what theyre%reet(- to the conduct of the Roman Catholic clergy under eir.l cumstances of the most trying and difficult nature, , After "a few remarks from Mr. J. O ' CONNELL and Major Maenamara, the motion was agreed to. SUPPLY OF LABOUR, IN THE MAURITIUS. Mr. HUME said, that as he understood the Noble Lord at the head of the Colonial Department was about to make some alterations in the affairs of the Mauritius, he should postpone his motion upon the subject until to- morrow. SLAVE TRADE Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number of her Majesty's ships of war employed on the coast of Africa for the suppression of the slave trade, in the month of June, 1847, stating the number of men and guns on board of each, and the aggregate; also for an estimate of the expense of her Majesty's ships of war employed for the suppression of the slave trade, and of all their appointments, so as to exhibit the aggregate charge to the country for their support in the year 1846 7; also a return of the number of ships of war belonging to France, and the number belong ing to the United States of America, employed on the coast of Africa for the suppression of the slave-trade, agreeable to treaties with Great Bri tain, stating the number of ships of each class, and the number of men and of guns belonging to each, and the aggregate ; and also for a copy of all the reports or dispatches received from the of commanding her Majesty's ships of war employed for the suppression of the slave trade on the coast of Africa, since January, 1847, on the state of slavery and the slave trade.—Agreed to. EXCISE LAWS. Mr. HUME wished to know from the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it was the intention of the Government to make any alteration in the Excise-laws during the present session. Where he tame from (Scotland) they were extremely anxious that some alteration rhould be made. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that before the conclusion of tf , e last ses sion he had desired the Chairman of the Excise Board to direct attention to the subject alluded to by the Hon. Member. He had em• ployed several experienced persons, and he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was in hopes, though he could make no promise on the subject, that he should be enabled, in the course of the pre- sent session, to introduce a measure for the purpose of removing all those restrictions that were objec tionable. The House then adjourned. LAW INTELLIGENCE. ....---- COURT OF COALlithV -- PLEAS, Nev. 24. (Sittings in Banco.) EX PASTE DUNN. Mr. PASITLEY rose, on the part of Richard Dunn, now a prisoner in the Queen's Prison, to arply on affidavits for a writ of habeas corpus, in order that he might be discharged cut of custody, on the ground that the war runt of commitment which would be returned to the writ nay illegal The prinoner was in custody under two warrants; and on the affidavits sent to him by his eat nt, with only one of whi, h should he think it neces sary to trouble their Lordships, it appeared that the first warrant set out that " the defendant having been this day convicted of wilful and corrupt perjury, he be com mitted to the Queen's Prison, there to remain until dis charged by due course of law." That was clearly a bad warrant, as the term of imprisonment was not distinctly stated. He would now proceed to the second warrant. This warrant stated that at a sitting at nisi prius held at Guildhall, in London, on Saturday, the 10th of February, 1847, before Lord Denman, Chief Justice of the Queen's Beach, the defendant " having this day been convicted of wilful and corrupt perjury, it is considered and ordered by me, the said Justice, that he, the said Richard Dunn, for the said wilful and corrupt perjury, be imprisoned for the space of IS calendar months, to be computed from the day on which he shall be first imprisoned ; and that he, the said Richard Dunn, do give security to keep the peace, and to be of good behaviour to all her Majesty's subjects, lad especially to Miss Angela Burdett Coutts, for the /pace of two years, the said two years to commence and 0, computed from the end and expiration of the said IS calendar months, the said Richard Dunn to give ~retirity himself in 1001., with two sureties of 501. each, and that he be further imprisoned until such securities be• given, and that the said Richard Dunn be committed to the keeper of the Queen's Prison, to be kept in exe cution on this judgment." So that under this judgment, I. a free pardon were granted to him from the Crown, and he could not get bail, he would still be compelled to remain all the time in prison. _ _ Mr. Justice MAT:LEI—Is the judgment erroneous ? Mr. PASHLEY submitted thai . it - Was more than that— it was a❑ unlawful sentence. He could not find any authority in the books which gave power on a conviction .or perjury to sentence a man to find sureties to keep the peace, any more than on a conviction for forgery. lie quoted the case "In re Henry Reynolds," and another, 1 Dowling and .Lowndes, Rep., p. 846, where two persona were committed under the Night Poaching Act, and ordered to find sureties " not to offend again for the space of one year next following," which wws held a bad commitment, as too general, and the prisoners were discharged. Mr. Justice MAuLa—There was a case "O'Connell v. the Queen," in which the plaintiff in error was sen tenced to be imprisoned for a further term to keep the peace, he having been convicted of conspiracy, and no one advanced this point at all. It seemed remarkable chat it was not taken if it could have been. The pri s.:ner was not entitled to make this application under the .tatute of Charles, for he was imprisoned for an offence which was not bailable. Ile had also another clear remedy, which was, that if he was under the sentence of a Court which had done anything erroneous, he might remove it by writ of error. The case quoted was one of a summary conviction of justices, where the re medy by writ of error did not lie ; it was therefore not in point. Mr. PASFILEY—IIis Lordship's view would take away the remedy of a writ habeas corpus wherever there was not a summary con►iction. Mr. Justice MULE—Yes. Mr. PAsnutv aubmiited that the Court of Queen's Bench had passed a judgment unknown to the law. Mr. Justice Mat:Ls—Then it is an erroneons judg ment. A single judge at chambers may grant a writ of habeas mints. How can a single judge review the judgment of the Court of Queries Bench? Mr. PASHLEY would not further press the application after that intimation. Mr. Justice Metmc—On - this view Mr. O'Connell, Ind the gentlemen convicted with him might have appealed to a judge at chambers in Ireland, who might tiler with the other judges as to his conviction (and 4hbiry . were one or two who did), and he would then upsetOefrl judgment. Mr. PASFILET—It was, however, satisfactory &ph' client to know that he could review this erroneous iu* meat in error, and since the case of " O'Connellsk the Queen," he could have bail in error whilst that j4lgmezit was being reviewed. The LORD CII/EF JUSTICE said, it was Perfectly ar that the applicant's remedy was by writ of error. There was nothing in this case to show that that re ap dy was not open to him. Any other courae- would lead to consequences which could not be anticipated. - • STATE OF TRADE. MANCHESTER, NGV. 23.—The gradual improvement n the sate of trade in this town, to which we alluded in our last report, has continued deists to the present time, and a fair amount of business, both in yarn and goods, has been done, principally for the Levant. Prier are no higher ; indeed, in som e d escr i pt i ons of yarn, they may be considered a shade under the quotations of last week ; but there is, on the whole, more cheerfulness, and more inclination to do business than for some time past. The recent reduction in the rate of interest by the Bank of England has given great satisfaction —not because the reduction of 1 per cent. in the discount of bills of exchange is, in itself, a mutter of any importance at the present time, but be cause it is considered to indicate a confidence on the part of the Bank directors in the security of their own position. And, however little trust might have been reposed in that body a few months ago, there is no doubt that their recent conduct has been marked by great judgment and steadiness of purpose. There have been no failures here worth mentioning during the last ten days ; and the affairs of houses which had previously suspended are progressing favour ably. The two instalments, each of 2s. 6d. in the pound, one from the assets of Messrs. De Jersey and Co., and the other from the estate of Messrs. John Thomas and Co., which were mentioned in our last re port, are, we believe, to be paid to-morrow, Friday, and Saturday. A meeting of the creditors of Messrs. Mareland and Vetmann was held yesterday, and was very numerously attended. We learn that the state ment submitted to the meeting showed ample means for meeting every demand ; and an offer to pay 20s. in the pound, by four equal instalments, at three, six, nine, and twelve months, with interest at five per cent., and security for the two last instalments, was unani mously accepted. We are glad to learn that the accounts received from the East Indies and China, by the last mail, are con sidered tolerably' satisfactory ; and that the remittances which have ccme to hand are generally satisfactory. No doubt, many bills on the different suspended firms must have been received, but we believe it will be found that they have generally fallen to the lot of other houses in a similar situation. It seems probable that most of the suspended houses in the East India trade have been, to a considerable extent, acting in concert; and thst, consequently, the bulk of the paper drawn upon one will he remitted by the others. This may have the effect of cutting down their assets; bill that is a much smaller evil than the ruin or embar rassment of solvent firms, and an extension of the dis asters of the last three months into new channels. Very little interest has been created hero by the failure of the Union Bank at Madrid, or the refusal of the drafts of the West India Bank. The latter appears to have been an exceedingly unsound concern, pos seasing a capital of only 120,000 L, and yet carrying on business in seven different islands, with liabilities amounting to 738,0001. Such an es.abliihment was almost sure to give way to the first pressure of adverse circumstances. We understand that the spinners at Ashton- under- Lyne hive genvrally resumed vecrk, as we were led to expect last week. Some little delay has arisen, in a few eases, from the necessity of a new arrangement of the piecers' wages ; but there is no doubt that the whole of the mills wilt be at work in a day or at the latest. :hrelerierally, ho c ever, they are, as yet, working only .. or four days p er wee k . With respect to other parts of the dipstrict, we do not learn that there is any material change since our last report, THURSDA Y ~ EVENING, NOVEMBER, 25, 'Fi47. ROCHDALE, Nov. 22.—The flannel market has been remarkably dull to•day, and the number of pieces sold very limited, In former )ears it has usually been about the middle of December before the demand for pieces has slackened ; this year ii is a month earlier. There has been very little doing in wool, and prices hare been stationary, HUDDERSFIELD, Nov. 23.—We have had another dull day in the cloth hall, but rather more doing in the warehouses, there being a few buyers, making purchases for shipment. American houses have been busily en gaged in fulfilling orders for the next packets. LEEDS, Nov. 23.—N0 feature of improvement has been peceptible in this day's market, nor was the busi ness done at the warehouses this last week indicative of revival. The stagnation is pretty general, and to meet the exigencies of the times, short hours of labour are resorted to by our clothiers and mi!lowners. Whether the gradual reduction of the high discount will prove so effectual in mending trade, as it is sanguinely antici pated, remains to be seen.—illanchester Guardian. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF C O 4 II MOIVS,IVev. 24. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. A number of Members were sworn in, amongst whom were Sir Denham Norreys and Sir William Clay. ADMISSION OF JEWS INTO PARLIAMENT. Sir R. 11. INGLIS presented a petition signed by a large number of the clergy of Yorkshire, against the admissibility of Jews into Parliament. Also similar petitions from Llandaff, Liverpool, and Rochester. Mr. GOULBURN presented a petition from the Vice •Chancellor, Masters, and scholars of Cambridge against the admission of Jews into Parliament. Petitions to the same effect were presented from Leicester by Lord C. MANGERS and from Congleton by Mr. JACKSON. Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition from the English Presbyterians, of Chester, agreed to at a meet ing recently held at Stockport, which stated that the petitioners objected to the laws which prevented Jews from taking their seats in this House, and praying them to remove this last barrier of intolerance, and admit thoso members of the Jewish persuasion with the Christian, when they were elected by the free choice of the people.--(Loud cheers) Mr. CARDWELL presented a petition from Liver pool, against, and Dr. BOWRING one in favour of, their admission. TRANSPORTATION TO NEW SOUTH WALES. Mr. EWART presented a petition fre m places in New South Wales, praying that transports might not be sent out to the colony, and in lieu thereof to submit such offenders to secondary punishment. THE BANK OF ENGLAND. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER presented copies of the correspondence with the Bank relative to the recommendation of the Government to enlarge its discount. 11:r. HUME wished to know from the Right lion. Gentleman, whether the papers showed the state of the Bank on the day on which the letter of the Government was issued, namely, the amount . of notes, bullion, balances, and deposits ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQU re plied that the papers simply contained copies of the correspondence which had passed between the Noble Lord, himself, and the Governor and the Deputy- Gorernor of the Bank of England on the sub ject. The letter of the Government was issued on the morning of the 25th of October. A. statement of the condition of the Bank of England on the 23d, the preceding Saturday, had already appeared in the Gazette, and a copy of it might be moved for by any Hon. Gentleman. Mr. HUME said the Right Hon. Gentleman must be aware that the Gazette could not be looked upon as giving official information to the House. What the House required was a statement of the operations of the Bill for two or three months previous to the letter of the Noble Lord and the Right Hon. Gentleman. THE MURDERS IN IRELAND AND THE PRIESTS. Mr. HARRISON wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland if any steps had been taken by the Government to bring to trial two priests, mentioned in the debate of last night, as having denounced Major Mahon from the altar, and who had, therefore participated in his murder; and whether similar steps had been taken against a priest who gave evidence at an inquest that he had denounced the man on whom it was held, and who was shot a few hours after ? Sir W. SOMERVILLE—I have to state that no steps have yet been taken by the Government on the subject. Mr. P. O'CONNOR wished to know whether any steps had been taken to bring to justice the,three persons, against whom a verdict of wilful murder had been returned for having been concerned in a murder, in 1884—(Laughter)—viz., Major Forrest, Archdeacon Ryder, and Mr. 13agne1l Sir W. SOMERVILLE—Perhaps the Hon. Member will have the kindness to give notice of the queatien. UNDER-SECRETARY FOR THE COLONIES. Mr. ANSTE Y wished to know whether Mr. Stephen had resigned the Under-Secretaryship of the Colonial-office, and if so, who was his successor ? Lord J. RUSSELL said Mr. Stephen was at pre sent the Under-Secretary for the Colonies. He had claimed leave of absence for a stated period on ac count of ill health, which had been granted to bim. Mr. Merivale was the Under -Assistant Secretary of Stet: to the Colonies during his absence. PUNISHMENT OF DEATH. Mr. EWART gave notice that on Thursday .he should bring forward his motion recommending the repeal of the punishment of death ; and that on Friday he should ask the Government a question, with respect to the Bank Charter Act, whether he intended to give the Bank the power of increasing its issues beyond the prescribed basis in the Bank Charter Act. PUBLIC DE PARTMEN TS—IRELAND. Mr. J. O'CONNELL gave notice that it was his intention to move for a return of various public de partments and offices which had been transferred from Ireland to England since the Union, and the t2penditure of thesi several departments and offices IrVr the last three years. He also gave notice that on I Friday he would present a petition from the Roman Catholic archbishops and bishops in Ireland. THE COUNTY COURTS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, in reply to Mr. Bankes, that the judges of these courts were at present paid by fees, but that their salaries were fixed. FEES IN COURTS OF LAW AND EQUITY. Mr. ROMILLY gave notice of his intention to move upon an early day for the appointment of a Select Committee to inquire into the fees of the Courts of Law and Equity. THE CASE OF CAPTAIN NORRIS. Mr. N. MAHER gave notice that he would, to morrow, move for copies of the correspondence which had taken place between the Lord Lieutenant of Ire land and the Roman Catholic clergy with respect to certain attacks made by Captain Norris, of the Board of Works, upon the character of the Roman Catholic clergy of that country. STATE In THE REVENUE. M r . Hotice of hi s i ntent i on to move, UIE gave upon ara ear to l appointm en t o f a S e l ec t Committee the F r esen t s t a t e o f th e y i d n a g y u , ir feor into o e revenue, with a view of ascertaining how far the system of taxation might be altered, and the present establishments reduced. Also, that he would to morrow ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it was his intention to bring in any measure to modify or alter the Excise laws. DISTRICT CORONERS' BILL. Mr. G. BERKELEY gave notice that he would, upon an early day, move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the District Coroners' Bill. PRIVATE BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. LABOUCHERE gave notice that he would to morrow, at the time of private business, move for a Select Committee to consider whether any and what improvements could be made in the mode of conducting the private business of the House. ARREARS OF ADMIRAL NAPIER'S PEN- Lord INGESTRE wished . to know whether there was any foundation for the report that Admiral Na pier had used the influence of his position for the purpose of obtaining the arrears of salary due to him by the Portuguese Government. Mr. WARD, in answer to the Noble Lord, said, I am much indebted to the Noble Lord for putting that question to me at this early period of the meeting of Parliament. I am happy to say that I am in a condition to lay before the House the most convincing proof of the utter groundlessness of such report. That proof shall consist in papers above all suspicion, from the c h aracter of the gentleman from whom they came, and the means which he possessed of ascertain ing the real facts of the case. Sir Hamilton Seymour has addressed a letter upon the subject to the First Lord of the Treasury, with permission to make use of the document. The letter is as follows My Lord,—As reports to the prejudice of the Gallant Admiral Sir C. Napier have been inserted in some of the English newspapers, I am induced to trouble your Lordship with the following statement. Upon the arrival of the Gallant Admiral at Lisbon, the Finance Minister expressed his regret that he was unable to pay him the arrears of his pension due to him, adding at the same time that he should make an effort to do so as soon as possible. The answer of Sir C. Napier was to this effect : That he had no wish to be paid before his companions, and that he would take his chance with the rest.' Sir C. Napier now acquaints me that four months' pension out of ' the fifteen months thin due has been paid to him, and this amount only has been received. He further acquaints me that two months having elapsed sines that pizet imp:sent was made, thirteen months payments are . at the present moment due to him." The Gallant Admiral ' is thus placed in the same position as every other person who has claims for pensions upon the Portuguese Government ; he has not, therefore, abused the in fluence which his present position has given him. I do not hesitate to say that I should regret as a public calamity the occurrence of anything upon the part of the Gallant Admiral which should interrupt the great service which he is now rendering to the country by the performance of his duties at the post to m hick he has been sent by the Government of this country.--(Hear, hear.) The services which he is there rendering are of great value, and will, I doubt not, be of great serviee to the country. SUPPRESSION OF THE SLAVE TRADE. Mr. HUME gave notice that he would to-morrow move for returns of the number of her Majesty's ships employed by this country on the coast of Africa for the suppression of the slave trade ; also the number of ships employed by France and the United States for the same purpose, in conformity with the treaties entered into with this country for the suppression of the slave trade. NEW ZEALAND. Mr. GLADSTONE wished to know whether it was the intention of the Government to lay on the table of the House the answer of the Governor of New Zealand to the dispatch with reference to waste lands in that country ? Sir GEORGE GREY said that the correspondence which had taken place upon that subject would be shortly laid upon the table, and he believed it would comprise the answer to the dispatch alluded to by the Right Hon. Gentleman. LIBRARY COMMITTEE. On the motion of Sir R. INGLIS, the Library Committee was re-appointed. Several of the sessional orders having been dis posed of, The SPEAKER called upon Mr. Heywood, who sat at the bar, to bring up the report on the Address. BANK CHARTER. Lord G BENTINCK wished to know whether it was the intention of the Government to give a full explanation to the House of the circumstances which induced her Majesty to authorise her Ministers to advise the Governors of the Bank of England to infringe the Bank Charter Act of 1844. The CHANCELLOR of the UXCHEQUER said that he stated last night, in answer to a question that had been put to him, that he was ready and prepared to make that statement then ; but, in ac cordance with the apparent wish of the House, he stated that he would do so on Tuesday. Having made that statement, although he vas prepared now to -tate the intentions of the Government, he thought it would be hardly fair towards the House to make it now.—(llear, hear.) It was not usual to introduce suljects of such importance upon the bringing up of the report on the address. He thought it would be more consistent with the general intentions of the House that he should not make the statement now, but reserve it till Tuesday. Ile had laid on the table of the House that day the correspondence that had taken place ; that would be printed and ready for Members before he made his statement. REPORT ON THE ADDRESS. On the motion that the report on the address be brought up, Mr. OSBORNE, before 'that report was brought up, wished to make a few observations upon ,several parts of her Majesty's Speech. When he considered the paralysed state of the commerce of the country, the state of Ireland, and the relations of the country abroad, he felt bound to call the attention of the House to some of the topics in her Majesty's speech. Although the Chancellor of the Ezell:quer had stated that he would bring the subject of the currency before the House on Tuesday, he mint be permitted to say that he did not think the embarrassments in trade were of a merely local cha racter. He could not feel satisfied until the basis of trade was put upon a more sure foundation than it was at present. He would give no opinion with respect to the Bank charter, but this he would say, that he thought the Government had acted wisely in sending this matter before a Committee.—(Hear, hear.) He thought the Act of 1844 had undergone unnecessary odium. Only three banks of issue had failed during the late monetary pressure. With reference to that p ar t o f h er Majesty's speech relative to the civil war in Switzerland, he deprecated any interference on the part of this country, thinking that the example they lkad had with respect to Portu gal was quite sufficient to induce them not to inter fere. But if any interference did take place, he trusted the rights and liberties of the people would not be sacrificed for the sake even of the blessings of peace. He came next to the paragraph which, stated that her Majesty looks with confidence to the conti nuance of peace en the continent of Europe. Now there was only one man in that House who thoroughly understood foreign affairs, and that was the Noble Lord the Foreign Secretary himself, but he must be blessed with a superabundance of nerve who could look with confidence to the continuance of peace in Europe, when it was remembered that Spain, Switzerland, and France were in a very excited state indeed, and any spark in one of those countries might esompromise not only the peace of Europe, but the peace of the world. He would not dwell long upon this branch of his subject, because, in the course of the session, it would be his duty to call the attention of the House to the incomplete and disgraceful state of our national defences, and then he should have another opportunity of reverting to this part of the speech. He did not know that the para graph relating to the treaty with the Equador was of very great importance, but of all the, serious humbugs that had ever been perpetrated in this country the attempt to put down the slave trade was the greatest. These attempts, instead of suppressing the traffic in slaves, had added to its horrors; and he hoped some Honourable Gentleman better acquainted with the matter than himself would take an early opportunity of placing this question before the House in a way that would put it upon its true merits.—(Hear, hear.) He now came to the most difficult portion of the speech, namely, the portions which related to Ireland ; and here he must express his regret that the debate last night had not been conducted with more calmness. Pie hoped, how ever, that the warning of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Secretary for Ireland would not be lost sight of, for every indiscreet word uttered in that House with regard to • Ireland was productive of the most direful consequences in the sister king dom. The Catholic clergy of Ireland was a great body, and, like all great bodies, it was composed of two classes. The majority of them, no doubt, were good men, while there might be wicked and designing men amongst them ; but still the body, as a vt hole, ought not to be denounced for the errors of the minority. Ha deeply regretted that an Honourable Member last night had felt it necessary to animadvert with some degree of severity upon a recent speech of a venerable Archdeacon of the Ca tholic Church. Far be it from him to defend that speech, but they might take into consideration that the reverend gentleman who delivered it was of a most excitable temperament. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) He (Mr. Osborne) knew him well, and he could assure the House that he was a very good man. For some time past the reverend gentleman had ' been suffering from ill health, and that, no doubt, rendered him the more excitable. The Sunday, however, previous to the delivery of the speech, he preached a sermon, denouncing in the strongest terms the crimes and outrages which were occurring in the district. H e had thought it nothing but common justice to the reverend gentleman to mention this circumstance, and he hoped in future he would be dealt with more leniently. 'The next sentence in the Speech related to the poor-law, and he could state from his own knowledge that it had proved highly successful; but he regretted, nevertheless, to state that its success had been greatly perilled by a circular which had latterly been issued by the Secretary of State, requiring the funds in the hands of the guardians to be paid into the hands of the civil paymaster in Dublin. It had not only perilled the law, but the peace of many parts of the country, and he trusted in future such proceedings would not be resorted to.— (Hear, hear.) Her Majesty then went on to state that she had heard with satisfaction that the landed proprietors of Ireland had taken advantage of the means placed at their disposal for improving their estates. He could answer for it the landed proprie tors had been prepared to avail themselves of the means alluded to, but he regretted to say Government had shown a tardiness in giving them the means. The Speech of the Queen went on to say that " in subordination had led to an organized resistance to legal rights." He would, in speaking on this part, forget that he was an Irish landlord, and that he had received much annoyance in fulfilling its functions. Ile should approach the discussion of the subject in a large spirit, overlooking these temporary incon veniences. The lion. Member for Kilkenny rather taunted him with having gone over to Ireland with good intentions, but that he had abused them. He would not say how much of his income he had forgone, and now he would also have to forgo his rents for years to come. In Ireland the state of society was based upon the potato crop; it was the money as well as the food of the country; but had the Government proved equ ,1 to the occasion—had they come forward with great measures and not tinkered, the country might have been placed on a better footing ; but now it ap peared to him that little was to be done save recon structing society in Ireland de novo. The Government of Ireland was in safe hands, and therefore it appeared to him that it was ungenerous to taunt Lord Clarendon with instituting the delivery of lectures upon agriculture. Although lectures might not do much good in the present state of Ireland, still there were counties in which the delivery of lectures and the em ployment of agriculturists would do much good.—(llear, hear.) The outrages which had taken place in the five counties were not, in his opinion, of an agrarian character. When men, and women, and children, were driven from their homes into bogs and drains, he was justified in this expression of opinion. They were the result of the proceedings adopted by parties who were determined at all hazards to obtain possession of the land. Before he could agree to a Coercion Bill—to the suspending of the ordi nary laws—he must first see what measures the Government intended to adopt to improve the order of things.—(H ear' hear.) Though n o t disposed to str eng th en the hands of the Govern ment, and he admitted he had a high opinion of the abilities of the Lord Lieutenant ; yet, looking at the present state of society in Ireland, he could not rush to a conclusion that coercion would do well for Ireland. It might, however, be a matter of gtave doubt whether or not a more stringent law should not be carried out in the counties referred to. Coercion would be but a palliative measure, and he believed that a Bill repecting tenant right would not go to the root of the evil, for its seat was deep.—(Hear, hear.) As long, however, as men were ill-housed, ill-clothed, and worse paid for their labour, they might depend upon it that there would be no safety for life or property. They must devise means to raise the condition of the agricultural labourer; he did not, however, object to such a Bill, whether for England or Ireland. He would support any well devised measure which would put the relations of landlords and tenants upon a more satisfactory foot ing. Looking over the programme of her Majesty's speech, he regretted to find that a Bill which would eventually do great service was unnoticed —namely, a measure to facilitate the sale of encumbered estates.—(Hear, hear.) Unless they could free land from the shackles which now op pressed it, they would do little benefit to Ireland. He therefore besought the Government to propose a large and comprehensive measure of this kind. The land must be improved by such means, per fas ant nefas. Though he did not desire to increase the power of the Irish Church, he thought that the arrange ment of the land in congregational, instead of territorial portions, would pare the way t o an improved st a t e of things in Ireland. He urged them at once to put the legislation for Ireland on a sound footing, or they would have to go on in the same vicious circle from year to year. With reference to what had fallen from the Hon. Member for Kilkenny, he thought it was unworthy of him to listen to vague reports; and he trusted that he (Mr. Osborne) would not long bear the character of an absentee landlord. Lord G. BENTINCK protested against the doc trine laid down by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that no debate should take place on the report to the address. He considered it as most remarkable, that neither the Noble Lord nor the' Chan cellor of the Exchequer should have thought it worth their while to state the reasons which had induced them to give permission to the Bank to break the law, and to propose a new usury-law, raising the rate of interest and levying new taxes on the trading community of the most odious nature. Why did they fix on the 25th of October, neither sooner nor later, to give this relief to the community ? He did not regret that last night the subject of Irish distress took precedence of the not less distress with which England was now inflicted, and im patient as the nation was to know the . inten tion of trie Ministers .with respect to banking measures, he was sure they would not regret that the first attention had been paid to . j r rish distress. But b o th wou ld b e di sappo i nte d i f this 'de bate. should be brought to a conclusion without eliciting from the Ministry a declaration of their inten tions with regard to the Bank Charter Act. Last year his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exche quer had been urged by deputations from the mer chants of England and Scotland, and also by himself and his friends in that House, to relax the restrictions under which the Bank was placed by that Act ; but his Right Honourable Friend had re plied that the worst was passed.—(Cheers.) The House would recollect that at a later period in September a deputation waited upon the Chancellor of the Exchequer from Newcastle, who foresaw that increased difficulties would come upon the commerce of the country, and they applied to the Right Hon. Gentleman to remove the Bank restrictions. What was the answer of that Right Hon. Gentleman ? He said that he could not be expected to guard against the emergencies of over-trading, and over-speculation ; and that there was no undue pressure in the money market as regarded houses of good credit. Why, good God! this was at a time when Exchequer-bills were at 255. discount—when there were doubts as to whether the Bank would be able to continue its payments, and when, at all events, among the houses of bad credit was to be reckoned the Treasury, whose Exchequer bills went down to 40s. discount. On the 22d of Oc tober another deputation waited upon the Right Hon. Gentleman, from Liverpool, and as they were leaving his room, it was said- that he gave them no hope. Time went on, and suddenly, upon the 23d of October, a deputation of bankers and others of the city of London waited upon the Right Hon. Gentleman ; the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Tam worth also came to town. He did not know whether he acted as amicus curie, in the matter—suddenly the Government began to relent; at the same time Mr. Pease, late a Member of this House, came up from Northumberland and paid a visit to the Noble Lord at the head of the Colonial Department, and the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Northumberland. Sir G. GREY—Not to me. Lord G. BENTINCK—That showed how neces sary it was that the House should be made acquainted with the whole facts of the case. Such, however, was the nature of the reports prevalent at the time. The Government at length listened to the cry which came in an appropriate moment from Northumber land and Durham. • They were informed that the Northumberland and Durham Bank was upon the point of stoppage, and unless the restrictions were taken off from the Bank of England there would not be a collier in these counties who, upon the following Saturday, would receive his weekly wages, and a significant hint was given of the value of keeping the colliers in full employment. (Hear, hear.) It was quite unnecessary for the House to know the reasons which had induced the Government to post. pone the removal of the restrictions to the late period they did.—(Hear, hear.) Precedence had been allowed to the discussion of thelrish question, in order to allow of the question of the currency being brought forward upon a subsequent occasion. No compromise had been made upon the subject. There never was so gloomy a speech made by any Sovereign as that which they were called upon to consider now.—(Hear, hear.) It had been stated by Honour able Members that 1 61,000,000/. had been expended in railways since 1841. Where Hon. Members got their information from he could not tell ; but were they to be told after such statements that the country would be brought to ruin by the expenditure of 12,000,0001. a year? It was not the high price of corn, but the effects of free trade that took the gold out of this country. In former times they could pay upwards of 300,000 soldiers and marines, but now they were told they could not pay.a few thousand railway labourers without bringing England to bankruptcy.— (Bear, hear.) They had lately heard the speeches of the Kings of Belgium and Holland, both of whom congratulated their countries on their recovery from all their difficulties. The French Minister, it was true,, dwelt upon the large sums which had been expended in the country, but he did not talk of the country being reduced to a state of bankruptcy by that depression. On the contrary, he congratulated his hearers upon the ge neral prosperity of the country. Look where they would, they found nothing but increasing prosperity on the continent. Prussia was gradually progress ing, so was Bavaria. In both places trade had increased to a great extent. The same might be said of Russia, and thither the famine extended itself too. It was supposed, indeed, that it had so affected the country that the Emperor would never be able to go to war again, and yet within the last few months he had been able to make large exportations of bul lion. What was it then that had prevented this country from recovering from the effects of the famine ? But it had recovered from the famine, and now it was suffering from causes that did not exist in the countries he had named, and he would tell the House what those causes were. The countries he had named protectrd their own manufactories— their own agriculturists—their own shipping—and gave them a decided preference over foreigners. Here, however, they had pursued a different po licy, and the misery they were now suffer ing was the result of free trade.—(Hear, heat) For eight years the stock of cotton had never been so low as it was in Manchester and Liverpool at the present moment. As many starved for cotton as for corn. What a spectacle this city presented from this ! The great importing city—the seat of staple trade was now in a deplorable state. The reason of all this was our restricted monetary system —the Bank Charter Act. It caused cotton to be sold 4/. less per bag than formerly—sugar six shillings or eight shillings less per cwt., in Cuba or Brazil, and tea less than it cost the ex porters in Canton. These were the results of free trade doctrines.—(Cries o f " Hear, hear.") I the presence of cotton merchantsandmillowners , he said that th e pr e p a red fabrics they manufactured Would d sold i by s b them bac a k t by the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R tlhesesgtehidaennthi.7eiregoeeriwgemrashl cost. t n h o r t e . iiin T g he al c v o ay unt t r h ie e s ir ems ' e e s . satsilwed'tea America, for in . e h in a s dd d en o e f , ruinous example stance, had not followed our turned them to great h a er d ev v he a an i d i u tag States is raised out of t More than two.thirds of h th e e p r r e o v d e u n c u e e o o f f EthrietiUshniitned. du.try. The United States have drained us of our gold to provide for the Mexican war. Her Majesty, while alluding to Switzerland, was wise and politic to abstain from allusion to Mexico. The United States had said that Lord Palmerston must be silent if they chose to annex Mexico and Canada, because England depended on them for cotton and sugar. We had sacrificed India, and given to America that monopoly of the cotton mar.. ket, which she had used so well that the cotton mer chants of Liverpool had, last year, lost to America 2,000,0001. at least. If the stoppage of our manu factures was owing to a deficient crop, how came it that it did not operate on the manufactures of the United States ? While our cotton manufactures had decreased the cotton manufactures in the United States had increased during the last year 10 per cent. They present an increase of ten per cent. in their manufactures, notwithstanding they are suffering from the dearth of cotton also. While the Governd ment was passing the Bank Charter Acts to saturate the country with gold, as the Hon. Member for Liver pool had informed the House last session, other coun tries were enlarging their currency. Neither France, Bavaria, or Russia were pursuing the same deem& tive policy as this country, which was now, on the one hand, restricting its currency, and, upon the other hand, enlarging its commerce. The consequence was, that England, which, a few years since, was the pride of the world, now presented a spectacle of bank-. ruptcy, ruin, and shame, at which the finger of scorn was pointed by every civilised nation, from the United States to the walls of Canton.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord then proceeded to say—When your merchants come to you, and your manufacturers pray of you that you will relax your monetary restrictions, and enable those who have cotton and sugar and woollen manufactures, awl those who have tea, to have money lent to them at a reasonable rate of interest, you, her Majesty's Ministers, draw back and refuse to set the Bank of England at liberty till you find you are on the brink of the precipice itself, and that any farther delay would precipitate you into the gulf of irremediabl e ruin. Then, indeed, you come forward, but instead of doing as great Ministers had done in former times--- 10 " stead of imitating the example of Mr. Pitt, who, in the year 1793, when he found the commerce and trade of the country in a similar position, came forward, and ad vanced 5,000,0001. sterling, at 41. 16s. per cent. interest, although the Government had borrowed, it is said, et more —you declared that you will become limner leaders, and set your own rate of interest. Well I remember her Majesty's Ministers last year, when I proposed a measure by whieli the industry of Irelan d would have been stimulated, saying ,that the Govern ment could not become money-lenders. What are they now ?—(Hear, hear.) Are they not motfey-changers -- usurers? Are they not interposing to Make money dear? Are they not raising it to a price which they know the English merchant must pay, or perish? Never have I heard of any country or of any Govern' ment in the world, before th e p resent one , that proposed to wring money out of the necess i t i es o f the people.r a (Hear, hear.) We are told by t h e Di v i ne l a w that 0 thou lendest money to the p oor t h ou s h a lt not be to Nina an usurer." Bat her Majesty' s G overnmen t have turned usurers, and fatal have b een th e effects throughout t he country. The money- lend er by p ro f ess ion was too ready to follow the exampl e se t hi m b y th e Government , and he who before wo u ld h ave b een as h am ed to ask 1 per cent. for his money did not scruple to take 10. Mortgages were raised from 34 to 5 per cent., while in Scotland those made at 6 per cent. were raised to 6l - In short, the whole ceuntry was taxed by a usury law; it was taxed to the amount of 13- per cent., a charge far heavier than if you were to impose an income-tax of 1 0 per cent. Any gentleman has only to look at the pro.. perty and income-tax returns, and he will see —es : auming the whole land o f th e country to be mortgage" for only one-third o f it s va l ue , an d that I be lieve is far below what the land of the whole 03301 is mortgaged for—that an increased charge of interest of 1f per cent. is equal to a new tax on the lan!' of England, Scotland, and Ireland, of 12,000,0001. a,'year. But that is not all. I have hitherto been, speaking of the land e d p ro p er t y o f th e country ; b u t there are the trading and th e i n d us trial classes of t he country ; these are taxed even 't o a hig her degree by this usurious interest. By thi s a dditional rate of per cent. interest I will venture t o sa y that a tax is levied upon those who ar e i n d e b t an d obliged to borr ow / money on intere s t to no l ess an amoun t than 25,0 00 , 0001. a-year. Well, then, th e G overnmen t having been awes' conies to the exacting of this high usurious rate of inte rest, are we to be told-th a t it i s n ot convenient that t h e time of the House should be taken up on the sec ond night of the session to consider what were the circum: stances which led the First Lord of the Treasury se! the Chancellor of the Exchequer to advise the Bank only to lend money at that high usurious rate ? Good God ! what are we to believe ? Are we to suppose that the Noble Lord the First Lord of the 'treasury and the Chancellor of the Exchequer her taken Shylock into their confidence, and that they have only been considering how they co uld exact the largest sams of money out of the nee" - sities of this suffering country ? One would imagine that they bad , adopted the language of Sir Giles Over reach, who, addressing Jack Marra!, says,—" Here i s t e d s h ouo i s commerce , bring ronfg interest iat al na ys : . hecreepertrtdroaeepiatnees property of plan—all men must be sellers and I the only purchaser • d l ashCarahei have e it Charter that e m A t whole ou c ns t ue a yr n y d i stwrt to h a o d e u trade, One would imagine that the original authors of the Bank country at their diiposal. .J.Jord Bacon, I - think, hi! d the country into a few hands.-:-(flear, hear.) His word ' ei a ono n fef d h te t the borrowers of it an uncertainty, and the end must /soon be that all, or the greater part of the money of al country, shall come into the box."—(gear, hear, se" laughter.) The effect of all these measures is to trans" ter the landed property, all the mortgaged prere rt " and the interests of all thos e w h ose moneys are e mbark' ed in trade, into the hands of the money-changer. in fact, a total transference of the property and money of one portion of the commnnity into the hands of anotberpor. . tion of that community. And are we, on such a props-_ sition as this, to sit down in silence and hear no word 0.. explanation from her Majesty's Ministers as to the' •i grounds upon which they so long upheld th is injurious 13ank Charter Act; and why, when they were at lain reduced to the necessity of relaxing it, they, in. doing so, incited the Bank of England to exact such an amount of usurious interest as iterer before was known toshave _ been received in the course of the last century and a quarter?—(Hear, hear.) I will not enter anew upo n the affairs of Ireland, further tha n to sa y that h e r Ma jesty's Ministers must make t hemselves responsible for ostp one they the peace of Ireland.—(flear, hear.) I sha ll p. my remarks upon any measures may poauce Majesty's I see them before the House. trust her Ministers will not present another spectacle of a G overn client turning out one set of men, and then gdvern_ln th li e ; country by the principle in a resistance to wh ic h obtained office.—(Hear, hear.) I hope , at al l events, whatever may be the measure, it will no t be a CurfeW' Act, to shut men up in their houses at night, i ts o rder to operate as a remedy to mid - day murder. hear.) Hear , being But whilst lam quite prepared, on du e cause th• shown, to support the Government , I s hall wa it till ri ht of measure is proposed, and reserve to mys elf the g t hink it givingsuited to the occas fon. I will not trouble the Hou se by • ty's adverting to the foreign policy of her Majes _ en _ Govern ment; they, I suppose, have maintained a prud spee t r e % serve in abstaining from any observation i the u n bject of their in regard to their foreign policy,—o n 1 the et s ber silent; but policy in respect to Italy they ara to to say that she her Majesty has been graciously pl eas ed has obtained a slave treaty f ro m the republic of the Equator. I must say her Majesty's Ministers would have shown more tact if they ha d been si lent o n that subject altogether.—(!Tear, hear.) The Hon. Gentle man who seconded the Address said that t here was another link of the chain knocked off the limb s of the negro. f new Why, Sir, I want to know how many thousands o f net_ tot _ links her Majesty's Ministers have added to those ch ains which tortured the negroes by the admission of slave o grown sugar ?—(Hear, hear.) I shall be curious to learn, on official authority, what the estimated awe s r of the increase of the slave trade may be. We do statements in a certain paper, which is supposed so b at times to receive information from head - quart ers, the slave trade has increased fivefold, and that the capital embarked in it has also greatly increased. notorious that slave-grown sugar has risen greatl ll ` aleve price ; and it is notorioas also, that the price of a_ in Cuba and in the Brazils has advanced fro m Sou to 500 dollars at least. But I shall be curious to learnarl: what extent the slave trade has increased. If w e . 10 , sure that more links are added to the chains of t he negro, and that more slaves are transported te Le western hemisphere, sure also are we, by the labour W take out of them, that no low num ber will suffic e . count up the thousands of lashes by which that labour is extracted from them. As her M a jesty, on prorogt%! the last Parliament, congratulated it upon its given her subjects cheap sugar, she might in hot 0 $ gracious Speech on opening the present Parliame. have uttered one word of pity for the thousands_whee: had been reduced to beggary fiy that measure. W hen we rue" we see that Government was obliged to send out ,n_st tions to watch the export of rice from the East Indic for fear the Mauritius should become another Icel . __u s and the 93,000 imported Coolies, who were left wit hou t employment and without wages, should also be destitu t e of food,—when we know that Lord Grey has authoris e the Government bank to issue notes, and to advaisce...: per ton on 50,000 tons of sugar, in order tha t e u i __ Coolies in that colony may be kept alive--when.wur, the Noble Lord, with all his high currency notion s home home, is comelled to issue ten shilling assignats. Mauritius, — when the we see all these things, I On", not IN are entitld to require that we should hear, her Majesty herself, at least from her Ministers, er... explanation of the course which the Government m s uritiud determined on adopting with respect to th e and the West Indies. Though her Majesty co_ng_rhea lated the country upon its having cheap sugar... l / ,_„d there are now few persons so obtuse as not to unaerseki7e that that measure has been one of the main cs.us the distress which afflicts the country by producing " I the failure of the sugar planters in the West Indiessu Mauritius, and the East Indies, by ruining th e e . ou s e , en merchants, by breaking up other mercantile eeesserf connected with that trade, and—as a n era t° consequence—by causing the bills of manufact u rers be returned to Manchester. What is the positi on Manchester at the present - moment ? The rates 1 for the support of the poor in that city are moreS:r", double what they were at any former period- --( he re . hear.) This st a t e o f thi ngs has been caused by t he turn turn of dishonoured bills of corn and sugar me t'. the given in payment for goods. It is true, that during' g. last ten or eleven months there has been an incr „tst the exportation of manufactures .to the United ow* orte' to the extent of some 7,000 packages ; but the l oot lions to the Canadas, the West Indies, and tn I