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SUPPLEMENT TO THE GAZETTE OF TUESDAY, THE 11TH OF FEBRUARY. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, FEB. 10, 1540. This day the Marriage of the Queen's Most Excellent Ma jesty with Field Marshal his Royal Highness Francis Albert AugustUs Charles Emanuel, Duke of Saxe, Prince of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, Knight of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, was solemnized at the Chapel Royal, St. James's. Field.Marshalhisßoyal Highness the Prince Albert, attended by his Suite, proceeded from Buckingham Palace this day, about half past eleven o'clock, to St. James's Palace, in the following order : The first Carriage, Conveying General Sir George Anson, G.C.B. ; George Edward Anson, Esq. ; and Francis Seymour, Esq. ; the Bridegroom's Gentlemen of Honour. The Second Carriage, Conveying the Lo-. 11 Chamberlain of the Household, the Earl of Uxbridge (who afterwards returned to Buckingham Palace, to attend in her Majesty's Procession), and the Officers of the Suite of his Serene Highness the Reigning Duke of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, and the Hereditary Prince of Saxe Cobour. , and Gotha, viz., Count Kolowrath, Baron Alvensleben, and Baron de Lowenfels. The Third Carriage, Conveying his Royal Highness the Prince Albert, his Serene Highness the Reigning Duke of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, and the Hereditary Prince of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha. Her Majesty, attended by her Royal Household, accompanied by her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, proceeded, at twelve o'clock, from Buckingham Palace to St. James's Palace, in the following order : The First Carriage, Conveying two Gentlemen Ushers, Charles Heneage, Esq. and the HonJurable Heneage Legge ; Exon of the Yeomen of the Guard, Charles Hancock, Esq. ; and the Groom of the Robes, Captain Francis Seymour. The Second Carriage, . . . . Conveying the Equerry i❑ Waiting, Loid Alfred Paget; two Pages of Honour, Charles T. Vemyss, Esq. and Henry Wil bam John Byng, Esq. ; and the Groom in Waiting, the Honourable George Repel. The Third Carriage, Conveying the Clerk Marshal, Colonel the Honourable 11. F. C. Cavendish ; the Vice-Chamberlain, the Earl of Belfast, G.C. H. ; and the Comptroller of the Household, the Right Honourable George Stevens Byng. The Fourth Carriage, Conveying the Woman of the Bedchamber in Waiting, Mrs. Brand; the Captain of the Yeomen of the Guard, the Earl of Ilchester ; the Master of the Buck Hounds, Lord Kin naird ; and the Treasurer of the Household, the Earl of Surrey. The Fifth Carriage, Conveying the Maid of Honour in Waiting, the Hon. Caroline Cocks; the Duchess of Kent's Lady in Waiting, Lady F. Howard; the Gold Stick, General Lord Hill, G.C.8., G.C.H. : and the Lord in Waiting, Viscount Torrington. The Sixth Carriage, Conveying the Lady of the Iledchambeitin Waiting, the Count ess of Sandwich ; the Master of the Horse, the Earl of Albemarle, G. C. H. ; the Lord Steward, the Earl of Errol, F.T., G. C. 11. ; and the Lord Chamberlain, the Earl of Uxbridge. The Seventh Carriage, Conveying her Most Excel!Ent Majesty the QUEEN ; her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent ; and the Duchess of Sutherland, the Mistress of the Robes to her Majesty. The illustrious Personages, and others composing the Pro cession, then assembled in the Throne. room, and, having been called over by Garter Principal King of .\rms, the Processions moved in the follow•ini order, to the Chapzl Royal : THE PROCESSION OF THE BRIDEGROOM. Drums and Trumpets. Serjeant Trumpeter. Master of the Ceremonies, Sir Robert Chester, Lint. Lancaster Herald, York Herald. Geo. Fred. Beltz, Esq ,K. 11. Chas. Geo. Young, Esq. The Bridegroom's Gentlemen of Honour, viz. Francis Seymour, Esq. Gen. Sir George Anson, G. C.B. George Edward Anson, Esq. Vice-Chamberlain of her Ma- Lord Chamberlain of her Ma jesty's Household, jesty's Household, The Earl of Belfast, G. C. 11. The Earl of Uxbridge. THE BRIDEGROOM, Wearing the Collar of the Order of the Garter, Supported by their Serene Highnesses the Reigning Duke of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, K. G., and the Hereditary Prince of Saxe Cobourg and Gotha, each attended by Officers of their Suite, viz., Count Kolowrath, Baron Alvensleben, and Baron De Lowenfels. On arrival at the Chapel, the Drums and Trumpets filed off in the Ante Chapel, and, the Procession advancing, his Royal Highness was conducted to the seat provided fer him on the left hand of the Altar. His supporters, the Reigning Duke of Saxe Co_hpurg and Gotha, and the Hereditary Prince, with the Officers of their Suite, occupied seats near the Prince Albert. The Master of the Ceremonies and the officers of the Bride groom stood near the person of his Royal Highness. The Lord Chamberlain and Vice-Chamberlain, with the two Heralds, preceded by the Drums and Trumpets, returned to attend her Majesty. Her Majesty's Procession moved from the Throne-rcom to Ithe Chapel, in the following order : THE QUEEN'S PROCESSION. Drums and Trumpets. Sergeant Trumpeter. Pursuivants of Arms, in their Tabards. Rouge Croix, Portcullis, William Courthope, Gent. Albert Wm. Woods, Gent. Rogue Dragon Bluemantle, Thomas William King, Gent. G. H. Rogers Harrison, Gent. Heralds, in tkeir Tabards and Collars of S. S. Windsor, Robert: Laurie, E.g. - . --- - Richmond, Chester, James Putman, Esq; Walter Ashton Blount, Esq. , Lancaster, York, Geo. Frederick Beltz, Esq. K.H. Charlei; Geo. Young, Esq. Pages of Honour, H. W. J. Byng, Esq. J. C. M. Cowell, Esq. C. T Wemyss, Esq. Equerry in Waiting, Clerk Marshal: Lord Alfred Paget. Colonel the Hon. IL F. G. C.,7vendish. Groom in Waiting, Lord in Waiting The Hon. Georg:: Keppel. Loid Viscount Torringtorf Comptroller of her Majesty's Treasurer of her Majesty's Household, Household, The Right Hon. G. S. Byng. The Earl of Surrey. Master of her Majesty's The Lord Steward of her Buck Hounds, Majesty's Household, The Lord K innaird. The Earl of Erroll, K. T. G. C. 11. Kings of Arms in their Tabards and Collars of S. S. Norroy, Clarenceux, Francis Martin, Esq. Joseph Hawker, Esq. Lord Privy Seal, Lord President of the Council. The Earl of Clarendon,G.C.B. The Marq.of Lansdowne, K. G. Two Lord High Chancellor, Two Sergeants-at-Arms. Lord Cottenham. Sergeants-at- Arms. Senior Gentleman Usher Quarterly Waiter, The Honourable Heneage Legge. Gentleman Usher Garter King of Gentleman Usher Daily Waiter, and Arms, in his tabard of the Black Rod, of the Swcrd of and collar of S. S. bearing his Rod, State, bearing his Sceptre, Sir Augustus William 'Martins, Sir William Woods, 'William James Esq. K.H. Clifford, Bait. C.B. The Earl Marshal of England, bearing his baton, The Duke of Norfolk, K.G., Her Royal Highness the Princess Sophia- Matilda of Gloucester, Her train borne by Lady Alicia Gordon. Her Royal highness Princess Augusta of Cambridge, Her Train borne by Miss Louisa Grace Kerr, His Royal highness Prince George of Cambridge, attended by Lieutenant-Colonel Cornwall. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Cambridge, and her Royal highness the Princess Mary of Cambridge, the Duchess's Train born by Lady Augusta Somerset. ller Royal highness the Duchess of Kent, Her Train borne by Lady F. lloward. Her Royal Highness the Princess Augusta, Her Train borne by Lady Mary Pelham. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge, K.G., G.C.8., G. C. 11. G., cart ying his Baton as Field Marshal, attended by Baron Knesebeck. His Royal highness the Duke of Sussex, K.G. K. T. G.C.B. attended by Colonel Wildman, K.H. Vice-Chamberlain of her Lord Chamberlain of her Majesty's Household, Majesty's Household, The Earl of Belfast, G. C. H. The Earl of Uxbridge. The Sword of State borne by Lord Viscount Melbourne. THE QUEEN, Wearing the Col'ar of the Order of the Garter. 'Her Majesty's Train borne by twelve unmarried Ladies. Assisted by the Groom of the Robes, Captain Francis Seymour. Master of the Horse, Mistress of the Robes, The Earl of Albemarle, G. C.H. The Duchess of Sutherland. Ladies of the Bedchamber, The Marchioness of Normanby. The Duchess of Bedford. The Countess of Rurlirmton• The Countess of Sandwich. The Lady Portman.. The Lady Barham. The Dowager Lady Lyttleton. Maids of Honour, The Hon. Amelia. The Hon. The Hon. Caroline Murray Harriet Pitt. Cocks. The Hon. Henrietta Anson. The Hon. Matilda Paget. The Hon. Harriet Lister. The Hon Sarah Mary Cavendish. Women o f the Bedchamber, Lady Harriet Cliv e . Lady Charlotte Copl e y. Viscountess ' Forbes. Lady Caroline Barrington. Mrs. Brand. Hon. Mrs. Campbell. Lady Gardiner. Captain of the Yeomen Gold of the Guard, Gen. Lerd Stick, Captain of the Band Hill, of G en t s . a t Arms, • The Earl of llchester. G.O B G.C.H. The Lord Foley. Silver Sti c k, Lieutenant-Colon e l John Hall. Six Gentlemen at Arms, Six Yeomen of the Guard closed the Procession. Arms the drums and On arriving at the entrance of the Cha p el, remained in the trumpets filed off. The Gentlemen at he r4ine Ante Chapel during the ceremony. Guard remained at the font of the stair-case in the o r Ante of the during the ceremony. Her Majesty's Gentlemen Ushers con ducted the respective persons composing the Procession s to places provided for them ; the Princes and Princesses of the Blood Royal to the seats prepared for them on the Haut Pas ; and the seve ral ladies attendant upon the Queen to the seats provided near her Majesty's person. flee Majesty, on reaching the Haut Pas, took her seat in the . Chair of State provided for the occasion on the right of the Altar, attended by the Ladies bearing her Majesty's Train. Her 3lajesty the Queen Dowager was present during the Solemnity, on the left of the Altar, attended by the Countess of Mayo and Lady Clinton, Ladies in Waiting; the Earl Howe, G.C. H., Lord Chamberlain ; the Earl of Denbigh, G. C. H., Master of the Horse; the Hon. William Ashley, Vice-Cham berlain and Treasurer; Colonel Sir Horace Seymour, K. C. H., Equerry ; and J. G. C. Desbrowe and J. G. 'l'. Sinclair, Esqs , Pages of Honour. The service was then commenced by his Grace the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury, having on his right his Grace the Lord Archbishop of York, and on his left the Lord Bishop of London, who assisted as Dean of the Chapel Royal. At that part of the Service, where the Archbishop of Canterbury, read the words, " I pronounce that they be man and wife together," the Park and Tower guns fired. At the conclusion of the Service, the Procession returned, that of the B. idegroom pre ceding as before, excepting that his Royal Highness Prince Albert conducted her 'Majesty from the Chapel Royal to the Throne-room, where the Registry of the Marriage was attested with the usual formalities. The Queen Dowager, the Princes and Princesses of the Blood Royal, the Ministers of State, and other persons of distinction, then paid their compliments on the occasion, after which her Majesty the Queen and his Royal Highness Prince Albert, 'with the rent of the Royal Family, retired to the Royal Closet. In the evening there were very splendid illuminations, and other public demonstrations of joy, in celebration of this most auspicious event, throughout the metropolis. N.B.—The Knights of the several Orders present at the Solemnity wore their respective Collars. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Fri. 13. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool. sack at the usual hour. The Bishop of SALISBURY presented petitions from Knaresborough, and from Shepton Mallet in favour of Church Extension. and also a petition from Shepton Mallet against any further grant to the College of May nooth. . . The Bishop of LONDON presented petitions from several places in Gloucestershire, from Windsor, and from Egham, praying for Church Extension ; from some place in Yorkshire, against any further grant to the College of Maynooth ; from Ashby de la Zouch, praying for an in quiry into the number of Bishops and Clergy in the colo nies ; from Kirkpatrick, praying for Church Extension in Scotland ; and from the minister, churchwardens, and parishioners of St. Paul's, Covent-garden, praying their Lordships to adopt some measures to make more effectual the provisions of the Act of Charles 11., regarding the laying informations and the enforcing penalties against persons guilty of Sunday trading. The Bishop of EXETER presented a petition from certain persons for whose respectability he could vouch, stating that they had paid great attention to the publica tions of the Socialists; more particularly they wished to draw their Lordship? attention to a publication entitled the " Social Bible," which contained matter of a highly objectionable nature; and praying their Lordships to adopt legislative measures to prevent the propagation of Socialist principles. He thought it right to state, in presenting this petition, that he should have entirely concurred in the prayer of it, if he had not believed that the existing laws, if properly administered, were quite sufficient to put a stop to any enormities which might be committed by the publishing of blasphemous immoral pub lications, and he believed that the Noble Marquis, the See' etary of State for the Home Department, was sincere in the declaration he bad made of his intention to enforce those laws in every case in which with propriety they could be enforced. He would take that opportunity of giving notice of his intention to ask a question of the Noble Vis count at the head of her Majesty's Government. On Monday next—he should have given notice for to-morrow—but, considering the question that was to be brought forward to-morrow, be hoped no discordant feel ings would be allowed to intrude on such an occasion, and he for one would be the last man in the world to do or say anything that could in the remotest degree tend to give rise to such feelings ; but on Monday next he would put a question to the Noble Viscount respecting a letter which had been addressed to that Noble Lord in July last, by the Rev. Andrew Irvine, minister of the parish of St, Margaret's, Leicester, respecting the mischievous extent to which Socialism was extending in that pariah. The Earl of RIPON asked if the Report of the Eccle siastical Commissioners for Ireland, which was delivered in August last, would be laid on the table? The Marquis of NORMANBY said the Report should be laid on the table. PRISONS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. The Marquis of NORMANBY moved the second reading of the Prisons Act Amendment Bill. The object of this Bill was to enable the Visiting Magistrates, with the concurrence of the Secretary of State, to relax the regulations of the Prisons Acts, as regarded debtors who were confined in the same prisons with criminals. The Duke of RICHMOND thought it would be more satisfactory if the rules and regulations were made by the Magistrates at Quarter Sessions, than by the Visiting Justices. He thought this would be a good opportunity fur the adoption of a recommendation he made some time ago, namely, that gaols and houses of cor rection should be exempt from payment of the Queen's taxes, which he thought was a great hardship on the rate payers, and he hoped the Government would on this sub ject show they were aware of the great additional taxes which were pressing on them. The Marquis of NORMANBY had already given di rections for the preparation of a Bill for the purpose of correcting the evils complained of with respect to prisons and poor-houses. With respect to the present Bill all that was intended was to allow Visiting Justices to act differently with respect to debtors confined in criminal prisons to what they did with respect to others who were incarcerated criminally. The Duke of RICHMOND trusted that the Noble Marquis would not put into the Bill any suggestions with respect to workhouses, other% ire a Noble Lord, who was not now in his place, would come down and say that workhouses were prisons.—( Laughter. ) The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. The Marquis of BUTE presented several petitions from different parishes in Wales, praying for Church Extension. RAILROADS, AND SUPPLIES OF FRESH WATER TO THE METROPOLIS. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER said that he now rose in consequence of a notice he had given on a former evening, and also in consequence of a notice he had given at the latter end of last session, to bring before their Lordships a question with regard to Railroads, and the better supplying of the metropolis with water. Their Lordships might think it extraordinary that be should couple the two questions together ; but he thought before he sat down be should be able to provo that his proposal to bring both these subjects before a Se- Lea Committee, which he should conclude with moving for, was the correct and necessary course. His proposi tion h r , nothing to do with the general system of railroads, b ut i t his intention, in the first instance, to have the attention' of the Committee directed to the very great danger which attended the present state of railroad!. If it should a ppssar that by any means the danger arising from Railways could be averted, that would be of itself a sufficient motive for eeferring the subject to a Committee, by doing which an impoz-,ant service would be rendered to the country. He would nob" proceed to the consideration of the plan for the better :Imply of water to the metropolis. He had thought it nesecesary, and had made up his mind since he first called the attention of the House to the subject, to have no connection with any Water Conpany, that he might enter upon the consideration of the subject without prejudice ; and if their Lordships should agree to grant the Committee he desired, he hoped the Noble Lords who might form it would stand in the same position. It was a question that had affected the minds of the people for many years, and though Commit tees of both Houses had sat upon the subject, nothing sa tisfactory had been done. The great objeet was to obtain a plentiful supply of water, of the purest description. Now, it was hardly possible to obtain that from the Thames, on account of the impurities which fell into it, though marry attempts had been made, among others by the Chelsea Company, who, by filtering their water by sand, had partially succeeded, and by the Grand Junction Company, who, from their situation, were yet more unfa vourably placed for the purpose, but who had now laid out a considerable sum of money for the purpose, and had carried their works out farther. Another Company was the Grand Junction and West Middlesex, which had also to a certain extent succeeded; but, notwithstanding the money laid out, the paias taken, and the machinery employed, it was impossible to suppose that a supply from the Thames could be obtained of the kind desired at a rea sonable distance from London ; there was nothing left, then, but the springs which undoubtedly surrounded the Metropolis, and particularly on that side on which there was a considerable fall. A Company was formed for the working of these ; and if all they professed could be veri fied, the object would be obtained ; but this must be proved before the Committee. This Company had a piece of laud at (he thought) a place called Lusby Lodge Meadows, about twelve miles from London, which ex tended about two or three miles one way, and a mile and a half the other, and had procured water there within 18 inches of the surface. The Noble Marquis, in conclusion, moved for a Select Committee on the unforseen dangers that might arise from Railroads—on the Supply of Water to the Metropolis, and on the state of the Sewers. The Marquis of LANDSDOWNE said he could see no objection, though he could not discern any very definite advantage, from the Committee. Undoubtedly, the more railroads were extended, the more important was it that the Legislature should, as far as possible, provide for the public safety. There was cer tainly no very dear connection between the subjects of in quiry—( Hear, and a laugh)—but a Committee being ap pointed on one, he could see no objection to its entering into the others; so that the one most easily inquired into had precedence of investigation. As to the supply of' water especially, it was one which, in a great metropolis like this, should constantly engage the attention of the Legislature. It was impossible not to feel—he was sure that he often did—that they were completely under the sway of a partition treaty upon the subject—( Hear, hear, and a laugh)—and that they had no means of extricating themselves from the impositions of the Water Companies —(Hear)—impositions, by the by, not the less galling and a oppressive, because carried on unde r Acts of Parliament, by which t h e i r Lordships had, for a time , bound their hands.—(Hear.) themselves e B I vueta t that was remove thatonl y y rantanny additional which,reason for exerting of course, as they had been the means of erecting, they had the power of destroying.—( Hear.) The Earl of ABERDEEN said he could see no possi ble connection between the subjects of inquiry. Now , as to the fi rst , " t h e unforeseen danger of railroads , " di d it not seem a lit t l e a b sur d to i nqu i re i nto d a ngers not antici pated l—.( n o e th e e d r l s e , ss theyexcitement were Hear, arid laughter.) Would not the very an nouncement of such an i nqu i ry, at t h e same time, create cer t a a i nnidy very alarm? fit and W v i e t r h y regard to snit e that jects of inquiry, th oug h no definite reme d y h a d been pointed out. The Mmaerquis machinery of WESTMINSTER B es E p ß as p sin E g E o N out the thoughtra rails. The should hep produced d s n a e i d e d h s which object u wasnl wo u l d so pre T v h en e t E th a e rl ca o r f ria A g no ground had been laid before the House for such a Committee, whose THE SUN, LONDON, FR I DAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1510. business would be to ascertain whether a machine could not be invented to prevent accidents that had not yet oc currcd.—( Hear, hear.) That might safely be left to the ingenuity and the interest of all parties concerned when the necessi y arose. The Earl of ESSEX feared these Artesian wells would be a great detriment to persons living in their immediate neighbourhood, as they would dry up all the smaller springs. He happened to live in the neighbourhcod of the Artesian well to which the Noble Marquis alluded, and i had, he understood, created great alarm in the minds of persons residing in the neighbourhood. Great care must, therefore, be used iu the selection of spots in which to sink them. The Marquis of WE STM IN STE R explained that these were a different sort of springs. The Earl of ESSEX did not object to a Committee to inquire into the plan for the supply of water to the metro polis, but he thought that the Committee upom Rail ways ought not to be appointed until some specific plan was brought before the House by petition. He did not like the appointment of those fishing Committees, which be thought very unlike the usual parliamentary conduct of the Noble Marquis. The Noble Marquis had said that he had heard of excellent plans, by which the accidents that so frequently occurred upon Railways would be prevented. If so, let some one of those plans be prevented to the House by way of petition, and let an inquiry be made into that plan.—( Hear, hear.) The Duke of RICHMOND hoped that the Noble Marquis would withdraw his motion. If they appointed the Railway Committee, they would alarm those who had embarked their money in those speculations, and they would do no good. They would have every man before the Committee who had any scheme to bring forward, and of those plans their Lordships were no more capable of judging than any ten persons who might be called in from the streets. He thought the railway directors were the best persons to judge of the efficiency of any engines that should be employed upon their roads.—( Hear.) He had sat in a Committee which was appointed to inquire into a rr cans of preventing the sparks from the flues of steam engines setting fire to the stacks and crops of the farmers. But after the Committee had sat some weeks, and incurred great expense, they broke up without doing anything.—( A laugh.) But he thought it remarkable that he heard no thing of the firing of stacks since. —( A laugh ) Lord RED E SDALE thought that there was an objec tion to the Committee upon the plan for the supply of water—it would give the Companies who proposed to supply the metropolis with water on the new plan, an unfair advantage over parties who might wish to oppose the passing of a Bill for the establishment of such Coin panics. Lord A SHBURTON objected to the appointment of a Committee to inquire into three distinct subjects—the safety of railways, the supply of water, and the sewerage of the metropolis. He thought, with respect to railways, it was not desirable to have a Committee on this particular subject. On the subject of water, he had always thought the metropolis was not sufficiently supplied, and that none of the Companies produced water which any person, who was not obliged to do so, would drink ; it was, therefore, desirable to see whether or not a supply of pure water could not be obtained from springs. He thought not ; but he had always thought that a supply of the purest water might be obtained from this and other rivers near London—the Medway, the Lea, and the Wandle. If the proprietors of this reservoir came before the Legisla ture wish their plans, it was desirable that inquiry should bo made on this subject, lest this should be granted to the prejudice of a better plan. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER said, his object was to prevent dangers. Would their Lordships think it wise to wait till trey had actually arisen—till more lives were lost ? lie begged to state that he had no connection whatever—he had always purposely abstained from having any—with these railroad schemes. Lord DUNC A NNON suggested that the supply of water should be made a distinct subject of inquiry first. To this the Noble Marquis agreed, and the Committee was appointed on that subject alone. Their Lordships adjourned at Half-past Six. ROUSE OF COMMONS, FEB. 13. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Leave was given to bring in a Bill for improving the road between Macclesfield and Congleton. Leave was also given to bring in several other Private Bills, and others were read a first or second time. THF. CASE OF THOROGOOD. Mr. GREGG presented petitions from the congrega tions assembling at various chapels in Manche s ter, praying for the release of John Thorvgood from confinement, and for such an alteration of the law as may prevent the recur. rence of such cruelty as that gentleman had been sub jected to. MUNICIPAL REFORM (IRELAND.) Colonel BUTLER presented several petitions from places in the county of Kilkenny, praying for the reform of Municipal Corporations in Ireland. Mr. PIG OT presented similar petitions from places in the coulsty of Cork ; and also a petition signed by 1,458 persons, alluding to a petition which bad been presented on a former night by his Honourable Friend the Member for Bar.den. On the last petition which he presented he would not then make any observations; but he gave notice that he would call the attention of the House to it when the Irish Municipal Reform Bill came on for discussion. IMPORTATION OF FLOUR. _ _ Colonel BUTLER presented a petition from the mil. lcrs of the county of Kilkenny against the importation o foreign flour into Ireland. CHURCH EXTENSION. Petitions in favour of Ch urc h . extension were presented from places in Leicestershire and Derbyshire by Lord E A STNOR; from places in Wiltshire and Yorkshire by another Hon. Member; and from Berkshire by Mr. R. PALMER. CORN -LAWS. Mr. VILLIERS presented a petition from the Mayor and Corporation of Manchester, praying for the repeal of the Corn-laws; and a similar petition from the county of Perth. FROST, WILLIAMS, AND JONES. Mr. I'. DUNCOMBE presented a petition signed by 650 persors in favour of the Chartist convicts, Frost, Wil liams, and Jones. Mr. O'CONNELL presented twelve petitions from various places in Ireland praying for Corporate Reform, Extension of 'the Elective Franchise, and that the House would support the present Adminisitration. PRIVATE BUSINESS. S:r G. GREY moved the adoption of the resolutions of the Committee on Private Business, contained in their Report of the 7th inst., which were made Standing Orders on the understanding that appeals to the House would be allowed. Mr. ERLE presented a petition from the Mayor and Corporation of the city of Oxford, expressing their sym pathy with the Sheriffs of London, and praying that, as the privileges of the House had been already sufficiently vindicated, those officers might be discharged from further custody ; also a petition to the like effect signed by 700 inhabitants of the same city. CHURCH PATRONAGE (SCOTLAND.) Sir SINCLAIR presented petitions from Clack mannan, and other towns in Scotland, against the intrusion of unacceptable ministers into the Scottish Church. Mr. MACAUL AY presented a petition from Dum fries, to the same effect. Mr. COLQUHOUN presented petitions from K marnock and other towns of a similar nature. CHURCH ACCOMMODATION. Alderman COPELAN 9 presented a petition from Stowe-upon-Trent, in favour of further Church accommo dation. Colonel WOOD presented petitions to the same effec from three parishes in the county of Brecon. LIVERPOOL WAREEIOLTSING BILL. Mr. GR E ENE brought up the Report of the Commit tee on Standing Orders of the Liverpool Warehousing Bill. It was reported that the Standing Order had been complied with, and leave was given to bring in the Bill. Mr. WALLACE presented a petition, signed by wards of 1000 inhabitants of Burden, in Roxburgbshirc, stating that they had no Post-office in that village; that they had proposed to the P o stmaster-General to establish a Post-office there at their own expense, guaranteeing the pram to the Treasury, and also stating that they would pay the Postmaster's sa lary, provided they were allowed a boy to carry their letters. This was, however, refused, and the result bad been the present petition. As that petition antainerl charges which might not be very agreeable to the Post master-General, he (Mr. Wallace) would now move that it be printed with the votes, and at the same time he begged to give notice that he should b rin g it under the c o ns id e ration of the House on the 27th of the present month. Sir G. SINCL AIR objected to the printing of the petition, considering that the printing of unimportant pe titions was very much on the increase, greatly to the public expense. Mr. WALLACE was glad that the objoction to the printing of the p et i t i on tad been made b y the Hon. Baronet opposite. H e s h ou ld not b e sorry if h e was de feated in this motion, as i t wou ld s h ow the people how the Members on the oth e r s id e o f t h e H ouse were inclined to treat their requests. B e li ev i ng t h at the pe tition con tained substantial truths, h e s h ou ld persevere i n his motion that it should be printed with t h e V otes. Mr. F. SHAW said th e speec h o f t h e H on . Member was in itself a clear re ason w h y t h e pet i t i on s h o uld not be printed, for the Hon. M em b er adm i tted t h at h e was desi roue of having it printed, in order to have a discussion cn it. That was evading the order of the House, which was intended to prevent the discussing of petitions without any motion being founded on them. Mr. WALLACE said he had in his hand a notice fur motion on the subject, fur the 27th. The motion was agreed to. Mr. V. SMITH presented a petition from Northampton against Church -rates. THE CASES OF HIGH TREASON. Mr. HUMS presented a petition (from Glasgow, A, believe) praying th a t the prisoners tried for high treason might receive the benefit an acquittal, in consequence of the doubts that divid e d t h e Judges on the point of law raised. Also another petition, from some individual, praying that the law upon a point which had so divided the opinions of the twelve Judges, might be settled by Act of Parliament. The Hon. Member said he heartily concurred in the pray er of both petitions. Mr. B. CLIVE presented the Hereford Improvement Bill. CHURCH EXTENSION. Lord SANDON (after having presented a petition from Liverpool in favour of the Copyright in Designs Extension Bill, and a petition from the American Chamber of Commerce in that town, praying that a Committee might be appointed to inquire into the management of the Trust of the river (Wear, Weaver, or Weber) in Cheshire—proceeded to ask the Hon. Baro net, the Member for Oxford, if he was willing, in con sideration of the many wishes which had been expressed to that effect, to postpone his motion relative to Church Extension till after Easter. Sir R. H. INGLIS, in answer to the question of the Noble Lord, said he must, although most reluctant, be compelled to yield to the many similar solicitations he had received from friends of the cause. However highly he respected those friends, he must state that, to any of them individually, he would not have yielded, but the soli citations had been so numerous that he felt compelled to postpone his motion until after Easter. Mr. HODGSON lIINDE gave notice that it was his intention in the Committee on the Tithe Commutation Amendment Bill to propose the insertion of a clause. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON gave notice that on Tuesday next he would move for a return of the number of freemen in each borough in Ireland, together with the date of the certificates of Registry. Mr. EWA RT gave notice that it was his intention to move for a copy of the warrant of his late Majesty throNing open the Court of Common Pleas to the legal profession generally, together with a copy of the judgment delivered by the Judges of that Court again shutting it to all but a privileged class ; also a re turn showing the number of causes determined in that Court during the period it was open, and a similar period before. Mr. HUME said that on Thursday be would move for a return showing the state of representation in England, Scotland, and Ireland, being a continuation of that which was made in 1834. WAR IN CHINA. The HoN. MEMBER then gave notice that, on going into Committee of Supply on Friday next, he should move for copies of all communications, papers, and despatches ad dressed to her Majesty's Government, on the subject of the war in China. BANKING The Box. MEMBER then gave notice that on to-morrow he should ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer to fix a decisive time when he should bring on his motion for a Committee, to inquire into the system of Banking. POST-OFFICE. _ _ Mr. WA LL ACE gave notice that on the 27th he would bring forward a ►esolution to the effce., that it was the duty of the Postmaster-General to afford all the reason able facilities for the communications to such communi ties as did not at present possess a post-office. ANATOMICAL INSPECTORS. Mr. F.FliENCli — gave notice, that to-morrow he should move for a return of the sums of money paid out of the Consolidated Fund to each of the anatomical inspectors in the years 1837, 1838, and 1839. CORN LAWS. Mr. PRYME postponed his motion on the subject of the Corn Laws, which stood upon the paper for that night until that day week ; and, in case the motion of his Honourable Friend, the Member for Wolverhampton, for bringing the subject of Corn-laws generally before the (louse, was given before the end of the present month, he ( Mr. Pryme) should withdraw his present notice, and move it as an amendment on the motion of the Hon. Member for Wolverhampton. On the motion of Mr. BA RNABY a return was or dered of the number of Reorders and Chairmen of Quar ter Sessions in England and Wales. EDUCATION (IRELAND.) Mr. Sergeant JACKSON moved for copies of all communications with the Board of Education in Ire land relative to the recent Conference with the Synod of Ulster, and copies of all the rules and regulations, and ordinances which had been since adopted. THE SHERIFFS. Sir E. SUGDEN wished to ask the Noble Lord J. Russell a question with respect to the Sheriff; and be fore he did so, he would call his attention to the resolu tion of the House on the subject. On the 21st of January the House resolved that the Sheriffs be ordered to refund the sum of 6401. to the Messrs. Hansard. The House, having discharged one of the officers on ac count of illness (which he thought was a very proper course), he wished to know whether it was the intention of the House to hold the Sheriff, who remained in custody, liable for the debt which it had directed to be paid by , he two ? Lord J. RUSSELL said that he did not think that the resolution of the House had been at all altered by the discharge of cne of the Sheriffs, on account of illness— (Hear, hear) —and he thought that those persons were bound to refund the money.—( Hear, hear.) Sir E. SUGDE N then said that his name having been put upon the Committee of printed papers, he thought it necessary, after the answer of the Noble Lord, to request that his ❑ame should be withdrawn from the list of that Committee. CHINA Mr. GEORGE PALMER said that havinc , yesterday asked the Right lion. Gentleman the President of the Board of Trade a question respecting the permission of British vesels to clear out for China, he would not again refer to that part of this important subject— but begged leave to ask whether (as we understood) the report was true that Mr. Elliot bad warned British subjects not to place their property within the power of the Chinese Government? Mr. L ABOUCIIE RE said that when the Honour able Gentleman yesterday inquired whether clearances were granted by the Customs to ships bound for China, his answer was that no directions had been given to the Custom-house authorities to refuse such clearances. But that answer was not given without stating that in granting those clearances the Government assumed no responsibility as to the regulations which might be made by the Chinese Government, or the changes which might take place in our political relations with that country. As to the report to which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded, it was matter of notoriety, and had appeared in all the newspapers. The Government, however, could not express any cpinion, or incur any responsibility, as to what might be the state of the vessels then in China. Mr. HUME said, that it appeared to him very essential to the commerce of the country, that merchan•s should be informed what had been the nature of the instructions sent out by the Government.—( Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said that Government could not enter into any explanations on a subject of the kind with out some notice. MUNICIPAL CORPORATION BILL (IRELAND). Mr. SHAW begged of the Noble Lord the Member for Stroud not to press his Committee on this Bill till Monday. Lord J. RUSSELL consented to the postponement of the Committee. FRENCH COMMERCIAL TREATY. Mr. PARK ER wished to ask the Right Hon. the President of the Board of Trade, whether the Commercial Treaty between France and this country had already been concluded, and if so, ►n wh;:t time it would be in the power of the Government to lay the conditions of it before the Huuse. Mr. LA BOUCH ERE did not wish to go into any ex planation on the subject, as the treaty had not yet been concluded. He should only say that the Government had been engaged in negotiations with the French Government, with the design to promote upon fair and honourable terms the interests of both countries. When the treaty should be concluded there would be no delay in laying it before the Hcuse. PRIVILEGE. Lord J. RUSSELL presentvd a petition from the Messrs. Hansard, printers to the House.—( Hear, hear.) The petition was read by the Clerk, and was very long, but the only facts we could gather from it were, that a Writ of Inquiry would shortly be executed against them in the last action of Stockdale, which the House had allowed to go by default. Lord J. RUSSELL moved that it be printed and con sidered on Monday. ADDRESS TO HER MAJESTY FROM THE CITY PREVENTED BY THE IMPRISONMENT OF THE SHERIFFS 1 The Lord Mayor attended by Aldermen and Com mon Councilmen, here appeared at the bar with a petition from the Corporation, which having been brought up and read by the Clerk, stated that from time immemorial the Corporation had enjoyed the privilege of addressing her Majesty—that an Address had been unanimously agreed to, congratulating her Majesty on her late auspicious marriage with the Prince Albert—that it was the an ciont and established usage in such cases for the Sheriffs —(A laugh)—attended by the Remembrancer, to wait upon her Majesty, to learn the time at which it would suit her Majesty to have the Address presented, that the Sheriffs were prevented from so doing by reason of their incarceration under the order of that House, and they therefore prayed the House to discharge the remain ing Sheriff in custody. Lord MA HON gave notice that he would bring the subject forward to-morrow, and moved that the petition be printed with the votes. Lord J. RUSSELL said he could not agree to the Noble Lord's having precedence. Lord MAHON did not wish for that. Mr. LAW gave notice that he should to-morrow move that Mr. Sheriff Evans be discharged. MILITARY AND NAVAL COMMISSION. Lord G. LENNOX then moved—" That there be laid before this Ilouse the names of the Military and Naval Commissioners, the date of the appointment of that Com mission. Also, a Return, stating the days upon which they have assembled, and the number of Commissioners that attended on each day of meeting." In doing so lie was very happy to say that it would not be necessary for him to detain the Ilouse any length of time, for all that he wanted was to be informed by a Member of the Govern. ment, or by a Member of the House, who had been upon the Commission, what was the cause of the delay which had arisen in laying that Report upon the table of the House. In 1837 he had moved for a Committee to in quire into the treatment received by the unfortunate men who were officers in the Marines. On that occasion he did not divide the House. In 1838 he renewed his motion, and upon that occasion it was carried by a majority of thirteen, and shortly afterwards the Noble Lord, now the Secretary for the Colonies, came down and informed the House that her Majesty had issued a Commission for the purpose of inquiring into the manner in which promotion was obtained, not only in the Marine Force but also in the Army and Navy. That Commission had been in existence for two years, and he thought the time had arrived when the House ought to be informed of the cause of the delay. The Noble Lord, at the end of last Session, told him in that House, that he believed the Commission had finished their labours, and that the Report would be soon forthcoming. Indeed he ( Lord G. L.) had reason to believe that it had not sit since last June. It was most important that it should be laid upon the table, as much injustice was the consequence, many situations in the Ma rine Force not being filled up until the Report was re ceived. He did not wish to enter at any length into the grievances of the officers of the Marines; but there was one circumstance he wished to call their attention to. Unfortunately riots had taken place a short time since in the town of Newport, and a small body of troops had saved it from destruction. No one rejoiced more sincerely than he had done at the well-deserved promotion of Cap tain Grey ; but if he had been a Marine officer, he could not have received any such promotion. Again, Lieutenant Park had commanded a small party of Marines at To ronto, in Upper Canada, and by his gallantry dispersed the rebels, who had attacked the town. In that action twenty of his party of fifty Marines were either killed or wounded, and their gallant officer severely wounded. Such conduct could not escape the notice of Sir J. Colborne, who gave him all he could the tempo rary rank of Captain, which the board of Admiralty were anxious to confirm at home, but it was prevented by the Horse-Guards. It appeared that the Marine officer was the only person who could not receive the reward of pro motion from his Sovereign for his gallant conduct. He should detain the House no longer, but merely express a hope that some satisfactory account would be given as to when the Report would be laid on the table, and thereby relieve the mind of many old and meritorious officers, who were kept in a state of most disagreeable suspense. Captain PE C H EL L seconded the motion, and observed that he could bear witness to the extreme anxiety felt by all the officers of his own service, as well as of the army, for the appearance of the Report. That was the more necessary as there was an opinion very prevalent through out the service that the Brevet usual on interesting and important occasions, such as that which had lately occurred, would have taken place if the Report of that Commission had been laid before Parliament. It would give great s atisfaction to the army and navy, and to every one connected with those services, to know what progress had been made ; and he was very glad to hear that the Gallant OtE ;or below him (Sir 11. Vivian) was ready to give an answer to the question put to him by the Noble Lord opposite. Sir H. VIVIAN said, that he had no objection to give the first part of the returns moved for ; and in reference to the second part, he had great pleasure in being able to answer the inquiry of the Noble Lord..-4 Hear, hear. ) From the first moment the Commission had been appointed, there never was a duty more anxiously and steadily per formed than the duty of its members.—(Hear, hear.) On the first day, they all met with the exception of those, whose other official duties required their attendance else where, and of two members who were absent from illness, and of whom they had since suffered the loss—one of them the friend and companicn of the immortal Nelson. The Noble Duke at the head of the Commission was never ab sent one day. As to the names of the Members he had no objection to give them, but he did not think it necessary to give the date of their attendance. The Commission Lad been appointed nearly two yearn, and constantly met from week to week as often as could be consistent with their oc her duties. It was necessary to adjourn from week to week, because they went minutely into every question, and every day when they met they found it necessary to order returns from dill. rent regiments, which could not be had till the next week. They had inquired into every de partment of the army, the navy, and the marines, and the commissariat, and at the end of the last session they came to a resolutiwt as to what they would recommend in each branch. After that the Report respecting each depart ment was sent to the head of that department, and then the whole Report of the Commissioners was sent to the Noble Duke at the head of the Commission. The Report was afterwards printed with the evidence. But as the printed evidence gave the names of members who put each ques tion, and as that might, in some instances be invidious, it was determined to reprint the evidence without the names. The real cause of the delay was that it had been necessary that each of the officers at the head of the particular branches of the service who had served in the Commis sion, should have had an opportunity of going into the whole of the reports with respect to the branches they be longed to before coming to the general Report. There were yet some matters to be investigated, and as soon as that should be done they would come to a decision on the Report. He thought that the house would consider that it would have been impossible to decide hestily in a ques tion of such importance. He was sure that when the Re port of the Commission should be produced, both services and both sides of the House would do them the justice to say that they had most anxiously and zealously considered the matter. He trusted sincerely that before long the prc. ccedings of the Commissi might be terminated. \Vheth sr they might be satisfactory or not, lie could not s , y, but he had no hesitation in declaring that no men were ever more anxious then the members of the Com mission to do justice to both services, and to discharge their duty to the country. Capt. PEC HELL said that it was not his intention to makc any reflection on the members of the Commission ; be believed that they had all acted in the most fair and honourable manner. Sir 11. HA R. DING E was glad that no censure was implied against the Commission. The House should re collect that a large proportion of those who composed it were either Members of the Cabinet or persons filling some high stations. These Members could not constantly at'end to the labours of the Committee, being often called away by other duties. The Right Hon. Baronet opposite (Sir H. Vivian) had, for instance, been obliged for several weeks to retire from the Commission. As a proof of the readiness with which the duties of that Commission were discharged, he could say that the Report had been sent to Walmer to the Duke of Wellington and that the answer of his illustrious Friend bad been received on the day following.—( Hear, hear.) As to a Brevet not having taken place on the occasion of her Majesty's marriage, he trusted, at all events, that it would not be too late in the event of a future birthday. Lord G. LENNOX did not mean the slightest disre spect to any Member of the Comm.ssion, and after the ex planations that had been given, he did not wish to press his motion. The motion was then withdrawn. TURNPIKE TRUSTS. Mr. MACK INNON moved for leave to bring in a Bill to alter and amend the laws regarding Turnpike Trusts, and to allow of unions of the same. Mr. FOX M A ULE trusted that the Hon. Member would not press his motion for the introduction of another Bill, as he was afraid it would lead to a delusive hope on the part of many individuals. Mr. M A CKINNON after what had been stated by the Hon. Gentleman opposite, felt bound shortly to narrate to the House the reasons which had induced him to bring the present Bill before their attention. In 1835 he had made some observations in the House with regard to con solidating trusts, and establishing a police ; in consequence of those observations a Committee was appoint , -d in 1836, which sat a considerable time, and the result of these de liberations was a Report strongly recommending the conso lidation of those different trusts, and the establish ment of a p dice. In consequence of this sugges tion the Honourable Member opposite had taken up the subject, and introduced a Bill, but that measure proved to be so defective that it fell to the ground. I i 1839 he had moved for a Committee on that subject, which had been granted. Her Majesty's Government shortly after issued a Commission for the investigation of the subject, and he thought it was not a good precedent for the Government to issue a Commission for the investi gation of a subject which was under the investigation of a Committee of the House. They were now told that the labours of that Committee were to be thrown away, and they were to, wait for the Report of that Commission. If this system were to be allowed there would be an end to all Committees of that House. The Bill was nearly the same as the one of last year, and he could not see any harm in its being brought in. Let the Commissioners bring in their Bill, and from the two a good Bill n.ight be formed. He merely wished his Bill to be printed and hid on the table, and had no wish to press it till the Com missioners had made their Report. He had merely brought forward the Bill as Chairman of the Committee, and if It were the opinion of the House that he should give it up lie would do so. Mr. SA NFO RD thought that the matter had better be left in the hands of the Government, and trusted the Hon. Gentleman would accede to the proposition of his Hon. Friend. Upon an assurance that the matter was at present under the consideration of the Government, Mr. Mackinnon consented to withdraw his motion. STATE OF THE REVENUE. Mr. HE RRIE S then rose, and moved for an Account of the Income of the Consolidated Fund (including therewith the Duties on Sugar), and of the charges there upon, in the year 1839 ; distinguished under the principal heads of Receipt and Expenditure :—And also, an Esti mate of the same for the year 1840 ; showing in each case the surplus applicable to the Supplies voted by Par. liament. Account showing the amount of the Deficiency Bills charged on the growing produce of the Consolidated Fund outstanding, unsatisfied ,eb o or n ru a t dr h ye e ,fi l cl 4 i eB t r h 4, co; dayorf respectively. c e nt b ei r tv u e a l February 139 Account and showing o 14th the day surplus of y. In come of the United Kingdom, compared with the Expen di ure thereof (exclusive of the charge for a fixed Sinking Fund, while such was imposed by law), in each of the five years preceding the sth day of Ja nuary 1831 ; and also, in each of the five years pre ceding the sth day of January, 1840. Account showing the total amount of the Funded or Unfunded Debt croated, and also, of the Funded or Unfunded Debt extinguished, in each of the three years preceding the sth day of Ja nuary, 1840; distinguishing the Stock created in lieu of Exchequer Bills cancelled, being the produce of monies invested by Savings Banks. Account of the total amount of the Unfunded Debt outstanding on the sth day of Ja nuary, sth day of April, sth day of July, and 10th day of s O t s e t t i o n b g e r, inthe ars about the same periods ; the current rates of premium or rate ea c o h f i n o t f er t e h s e t on Exchequer 1 g. 137, 1 11 3 i S I i s a s n u d e d lB a 3 t g o r discount on the same in the public market; and the prices _ of the 3 per Cent. Consolidated Annuities. Account of the total net Income and Expenditure of the United King dom, in each of the twelve years between the s t h day of January, 1828, and the sth day of January , 1840, (la continuation of the account annexed to the fourth Re port of the Committee on Finance in 1828, wherein the same is exhibited from the year 1792.) Account showing tile total sums expended for the service cf the Arms, Navy. between the ith day of Jan. 1828, and s th day of Jan. 1840. Ordnance, and Miscellaneous, in each of the twe lve y ears Ia doing so, he said that it was with great regret that he found himself under the necessity of asking their atten tion for some time, but be considered the motion so impor tant, that he felt it his duty to go at some length, because he had been given to understand that some portion of the papers he wished for would be refused. He regretted that he was obliged to make any statement at all. He hoped that the information would have been granted as a matter of course, and he would then have been saved the trouble of wearying or detaining the House. He under stood that there was no objection to the papers he wished for, except in one instance. He did not wish to move for these papers without intending to use them upon a future occasion : he considered them most important, and no doubt they would call in question the financial measures of the Government, especially in their management of the unfunded debt. He proposed to call for information which ought to be laid before the House, because it would give the House the opportunity of seeing whether the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and his predecessor in office, bad so conducted that branch of the Revenue as to be conducive to public advantage. Before he concluded his remarks he believed he would be able to show that there bad been a great degree of mismanagement in that office, and ho trusted that, should he have been rightly informed that the Government intended to oppose his motion, the House would interfsro and furnish him with it. He understood the objection to be urged against his motion was to be confined to that part wherein he called for the estimate of 1840, and lie would confine his arguments strictly to that point. Ile would guard himself against being misunder stood. Of course he did not call upon the Chancellor of the Exchequer at the present moment—before the close of his financial year—to open all his plans. His views did not carry him so far. He merely required that there should be laid before the House a correct view of what the income of this countr y was in the present year. lie would proceed then to satisfy the House that what he wanted ought to be given, and if refused ought to be insisted on. —( Hear, hear.) He might be told that the course he was taking was neither usual nor customary. Hy m i g ht be told that the period chosen was an improper one, He would ask were we in a usual state of things with regard to our finances?—( Hear, hear.) Was the state of our finances in an ordinary condition ? Were they not rather in a most unprecedented state,--( Hear, hear.) For the last few years he, and those acting with him, had exer cised great forbearance towards the Government in calling for information; nor did he think th a t f or b earance h a d been well repai. Thes had pushed this over from year to year, sometimes from February till July, sometimes till August, and then the information was obtained with the greatest difficulty. In what situation, he would ask, would the House stand before the country if they allowed such a practice to continue through such an unexampled session of financial difficulty as the present ? He was determined on the present occasion, to avoid, as much as possible, resting his case upon technical and financial grounds; the ground on which he rested his motion was the broad principle of justice. The Hon. Member for Kilkenny had on a former evening cast some blame on the gentlemen on that side of the House for not supporting him, but he thought blame was undeserved. During the last two years it was too well known to all whom he was addressing that the monied interest of the country was in a peculiarly bad condition, and that the working classes had been labouring under great depression ; he had the admission of the highest authoe rity in the other House that that depression still existed. They had thought fit to make these statements, and they had been made frankly—they bad been made freely-- they had been made without reserve.—( Hoar, hear.) These words, which described mere fully than he conic do the financial state of the country, would form the ground-work of his modem-4 Hear, hear.) On the oc casion of certain inquiries made elsewhere, it had b ea stated by the highest authority in the country—by the first Minister of the Crown—by the first Minister of that department which was peculiarly the subject of the pre sent motion—by the person most competent to give In formation on the subject. It had been stated by Lord Meleouree, in answer to an observation of a Noble Lord on the financial state of the country, " that that Noble Lord had called public attention to what he rightly held to be a subject of the most paramount importance, an d he could not but express his entire concurrence in all that had been said by his Noble Friend. He entirely agreed with his Noble Friend in all that he had said—he en tirely agreed with him in the approbation which he bad expressed of the Sinking Fund, and in admitting the present extremely disagreeable state of the finances."- (Hear, hear.) This was frank.—this was fair—this teas true.—(Hear, hear.) " Ile admitted to his Noble Friend that a deficiency, continuing year after year, was a state of things that ought not to be permitted to go on—that it was a state of things that ought to be looked boldly in the face, and that they ought to take measures for doing awe, with the evil. He was afraid it must be admitted that not being able to look into futurity, it would not be possible to make any material diminution in our expellees. He would not look forward to any material diminution in the expense of our naval and military forcea."—( Hear, hear.) This was true, and he hoped that no attempt would be made at any dimi nu ti on i n th e esta bli s h men ts of the country. That statement was explicit. They had nothing to do but to consider the remedy. That s:atement required no confirmation, yet it had receive confirmation from the highest authority—from the 9C ' cond in importance of the Ministers of State. The Nobl e Lord who led that House had, with equal candour, is' formed the House, that the necessities of the country wer e such as to require an increase in the burdens of the coun try, and that the finances of the country were so muc h impaired that the public service could not be carried oa without augmenting them. The Noble Lord and the first :Minister of the Crown, the highest authorities in the cowl' try, had informed us that we were arrived at that Fos; that it was indispensably necessary for the House and the country to meet these financial difficulti es fairly in the face..— (Cries of Hear, hear, hear.) The House should discharge its duty on the occasion, severe and painful as it might be, and it certainly Wa s painful to see the condition they were now in after twenty.' six years of peace. They should eddress themselves to the question with thin feeling, that, however unpleasan t the duty, they sh ou ld, a b ove a ll ot h er t hi ngs, consu lt for the safety of the country. He had alluded to the objec tions that might be made to his motion. H e bad, he thought, stated enough to satisfy the House, that the nu' usual circumstances of the country were more than coil; mensurate with the want of any or di nar y p rece d ent whic h he might follow. But he was not altogether without pre" cedents in the call he was making. Ile found that forme r Chancellors of the Exchequer had at periods, which were not like the present ti mes o f great diffi cu l ty, fol l owe d somewhat similar course. The Earl of Ripon, when be had first entered on the office of Chancellor of the Exch e. quer during a brief administration, in which be (Mr. H e !' ries) had had the honour of taking an humble share u l February, and during each year a statement and an esti: OA,' mate of his revenue —( H e ar, h ear .) H e also foun d Lord Althorp, during the first year he had assumed big office, had on the sth of F e b ruary pro d uce d a clmPl!t". estimate of these financial affairs. If he were told t b that was an estimate mad e f or t h e occas i on , an not in consequence of an order of th e H ouse, be shoul d say that he had a precedent of the Chancellor of the E x ' chequer himself, last year, that such an est i ma t e m ight be produced in the form now asked. He should now desir nothing more than that the Right Hon. Gentleman opn' s site would furnish him for the yea r 1840 w i t h papers made out after the fashion of those h e h a d f urn i s h e d i n 183 T If the Right Hon. Gentleman s h ou ld te ll hi m t h e est'. mates had been produced late in the session, be (Mr. H er ; ries) should say that that did not alter the case in any WI % eemi sdg T e hfhn h oti e rmnloto ß Bfhft4o i et g blrh l .ey l et t hetiare H ereev o t esdnotn permitteddcur estimates o G enamo e t feeto n t, so t r ; al that make—lie a ki nl yaa n te a kb d n aeiwi ar a i l 1 would for hdedaeddet disclosuresvihint advance. o e d w en 00e g a ot. s i b, k a g e_ s? whatever. w il he was ir ceeoahs merely h January,mt ae a s a t km e t f him to state what his new taxes might be or what 01 ; extraordinary resources might be—or his balances the Exchequer Bills he had paid—or the amount of his issues. But he merely asked him that, under the extr aor di nary c i rcumstances we were in—under those circumst ances o f j ust distrust and alarm which press on us, they should be put in possession of all the informs; tion which the Chancellor of the Exchequer could giv e $ to financial concerns. Was it too much to ask for inform s tion at such tim e an d un d er suc h c i rcumstances ? he e°11,4 even ask if a n y H ouse o f C ommons cou ld j ust if y i tse lf to th e country, which, after the declarati o n s th at h a d b ee n Ma„ upon the subject, would not be content to wait any longer W s ; some explanations regarding it.--( H ear , h ear .) It wce impossible to estimate too highly the i mmense i m portau_ a of the subject, and the extreme solicitud e w hi c h it excit e __ in the public mind. If the Right H u m Gentlemen otelLv j site were aware of the anxiety which universally prevaT ig in the matter, and of the perhaps exag gerate d no tions s ,' with regard to the difficulties which it was s u pp ose d we ill' be to contend with—if he were aware of all this, e d would probably be as anxious as h e no w see rn i se reluctant to accede to his motion.—(Hear, hear.) 0 ( Mr. Herries) could assure the Right Hon. Gentler! is that lie had spoken to no one who did not entertain le a n _ on the subject, and who did not f ee l t h at i t deeplY 'at cerncd the safety, the honour, an d t h e i nterests of . t country. Who did not feel anxi ety at t h e i nformat ion tn i l s we had an increasing expendit ure , w hi c h we 'wino cleaset of retrenching? Who did n o t f ee l uneasy at t he efr which might be produced, both at home and a broad , s r this most inconvenient and deplorable state of th, i : ll 4 . v g I How was the Noble Lord to answer for the tranquillity e°/1 the country—how was he to keep down the Chartists, a ws• to restrain the encroachments of foreign powets—hu w ese e he to maintain peace at home, unless he could show l os e means of maintaining adequate establishments for that s re purposes?—( Hear, hear.) Would any one deny tb,, a ,; 00 , ought, at the earliest period, to receive all the ."" T