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TRH SUN, ,LONDON, SATURDAY ,EVENING, MAY 8, 1847. - iMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS, May 7. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack a File o'clock. Messengers from the Commons brought up several Bills, which were ordered to lie on the table. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND)—COMMITTEE. On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, the order of the day for reseming the consideration of the Poor Relief Bill ie Committee was read, and their Lordships went into Committee. The Earl of CLANCARTY wished to ask a question in connexion with what had fallen from a Noble Lord. It had been said that the accommodation in unions and workhouses was such that out-door relief would be very little required. He (the Earl of Clancarty) begged to ask whether, under the 4th clause of the Bill, the Commissioners were to support . .a relieving officer who should have nothing to do? The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said the clause was ex ceedingly simple ; it gave the Commissioners power to ap point persons to dispense relief in particular districts. Out door relief was only intended to be given under special cir cumstances.—(Hear.) For instance, where impotent poor required relief, it would be necessary to appoint persons to dispense the necessary relief. The Earl of CLANCARTY then proposed the omission of the sth clause, which provided for the relief of destitute persons under peculiar circumstances, and the substitution of another, empowering the Commissioners to construct and aid fever hos pitals He said his object was not to curtail the means of substan tial relief to those who stood in need of it, but to protect another &ass, who would be trench injured by the Bill as it stood, namely, the industrious persons for whom the medical charities of Ireland were established ; by the aid of such institutions ailing persons would be afforded relief until they were in a fit state to labour for their subsistence.—( Hear, hear.) In proposing this amendment. he was testing the desire of the Government to afford relief to the Irish people through the medium of a Medical Relief Bill. The present Fever Bill would terminate in November, and therefore he wished to urge upon the Government to promote a measure for a similar purprae, which might come into operation at its termination : thus they might lay the foundation of efticierit medcal charities in Ireland. It was because he thought the clause would interfere ,with these charities that he proposed its omission. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he thought it was necessary that the clause should remain in the Bill for its eflif.cient operation. The amendment having been negatived, The Earl of CLANCARTY thought it would be better to insert words making the operation of this clause temporary, in order to carry out the decision to which their Lordships had come on the previous evening. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had understood the effect of that vote to make the whole Bill temporary. Lord STANLEY thought words ought to be inserted mak ing, the operation of the clause temporary. Earl FITZ WILLIAM thought it would be better to make the whole Bill temporary. Lord MONTE IGLE said his intention in moving the amendment last night was to give a temporary effect only to all the provisions of the Hill relating to out-door relief. The Earl of WICKLOW said, that the vote to which they catw last night limited the operation of the whole Bill as, he understood, to 184t4. But in fact the whole matter was in such a state of confusion, that no two men could agree as to the na ture or effect of the vote which they had come to last night.— (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Lord MONTEAGLE denied there was any confusion whatever, unless the confusion of ideas of the Noble Earl him self. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that after a most care ful considevrtion of the vote last night, it was difficult to say what part of the Bill was to be temporary and what part per manent. After a few words from Lord MONTEAGLE. Earl GREY said he perfectly comprehended his amendment of last evening ; it was to make the Bill a temporary measure . But the Noble Lord had given notice of amendments applying to parts merely of the Bill, and these amendments went to make these parts permanent. The Noble Lord now pressed these amendments to night ; exhibiting that his object last niL ht was to damage the bill at its earliest course. He was successful, be the Bill dispite of every manoeuvre was too high in the po pular esteem that it should fail. Earl FITZ WILLIAM disapproved of the coarse of the Noble Earl's remarks ; for it was very possible that, on a Bill of so general import Noble Lords might differ, and differ consci entiously. The Bill was evidently affected by last night's amend meet in whole. It had been determined that the Bill should be temporary, although the limited time was not yet inserted. Lord .MONTEAGLE disclaimed the imputation, and re minded their Lordships that he intimated last night his wish to make the relief clause temporary and the rest of the Bill permanent. _ _ _ Ear, ail'. GEP IIANS felt it due to himself to say that he distinctly understood the Noble Lord to have intimated as mush last night. Lord CAMPBELL said the clause would be a new source of difficulty, and would admit of so many different interpreta tions that a judge would find it most difficult to arrive at a de cision. He heyed his Noble Friend would consent to pro pose the clause merely as a temporary one. Lord MON TEAGLE declared that the meaning of the clause might be easily interpreted. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said the amendment would pronvite the confusion which had been already intro duced into the Bill. The Earl of SHREWSBURY said he should cordially con fcsi that he had been labouring under a misconception when he had supported the amendment of the preceding evening. The Bari of CLANCARTY consented to propose the clause as a temporary one. After a few words from the Marquis of WESTMEATH, Lord STANLEY said the Noble Marquis opposite (the Mar quis of Lansdowne) had expressed a wish, which he said was very near his heart, that they should commence business with out any unnecessary conversation. He would not add to the mischief that might already have been done by any de sultory conversation which might have taken place, and would confine himself to the sixth clause. He would not put their Lordships to the trouble of dividing upon the amendment if it did not appear to meet with their concurrence, but he believed that if it were adopted it would be finsnd to have a most beneficial effect. The Noble Lord concludec by moving that the following clause be substituted for clause b: —" And be it enacted, that in every electoral divisi. , n of each union there shall be a relief eommittee ; which relief cimrnittee shall con-ist of the guardians of such union resident or having rateable property within such electoral di vision, together with the (two) highest ratepayers therein, not bent- , guardians of such union ; and every such committee shall meet weekly, on “srae day other than that of the meeting of the board of guardians ; and every such relief committee !hail annually elect a chairman ; and every relieving officer w'ho shall be appointed as hereinbefore directed, shall at such weekly meeting report to such relief committee any ease of sudden or urgent necessity, and shall have power, under an order signed by the chairman, or such person as shall be, pro Linpore, acting as chairman, of such re lief committee, to give provisional relief in such case of sudden and urgent necessity, either by an order of admission to the worki:ouse or fever hospital of the union, pro vided there be room therein respectively, and by conveying any destitute poor person thereto, it necessary, or by affording such poor person immediate and temporary relief in food, lodging, or medical attendance, until the next ordinary -meeting of the board of guardians, at which meeting he shall report the case, and the nature and cost of the relief so afforded, in such form and manner as the Poor taw Commissioners shall prescribe, and after such report shall give no further relief otherwise than by direction of the board of guardians in the case so reported ; and the guardian , , of the union shall furnish the chairman of such relief committee with the necessary funds for affording relief in manner aforesaid, and for the relief of those destitute poor persons to whom relief shall be granted by the board of guardians, at such times and in such manner as the Poor-law Commissioners shall determine and direct." The Marquis of LANSDOWNE hoped the Noble Lord would le eve the matter in the hands of her Majesty's Government. Fle ihought the object of the Noble Lord might be attained by enabling:boards of guardians of large unions to appoint com mittees of their own bodies to exercise the check which he re quired. Lord STANLEY said that the proposition of the Noble Marquis was so nearly wh.t he himself previously had proposed, that he had no difficulty in acquiescing in such an arrangement. After a fe v words from the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, Lord STANLEY said the only object which he had in view was to give the board of guardians ar. intermediate control ever the relieving officer, in order that the public interests might be protected. Clause 6 was then agreed to, and ordered to stand part of the Bill. On clause seven being read, Lord BROUGHAM considered that the latitude granted to paupers was by far too great, they tv , uld soon become so well off as obe envie Iby the landlords. His great objection to the rneasu e arose ;rain the fact of his being unable to see, the wav in which it was to be carried out. The Government (lid Loc follow the old principle, of resting while they were in the dark; but they said, " because we are so let us go on."— (Laughter.) Because we do not see our way, let us do some thing." It was often much better to leave what was not quite well, alone, because meddling with it made it very often much worse. Ihe more he considered the question, the more he was impressed with the necessity of Government not interfering in the manner which was proposed to do by the clause. Lord LANSDOWNE said that the Act did net confer a right to relief. Individual cases of hardship might arise, and the only way to remedy it was by leaving the right to relief discretionary in the poor-law guardians and the Poor-law Commissioners. Clanw 7 and 8 were thei agreed to. On clause 9, Earl ELTZWILLIAM moved the amendment, of which he had given notice, to the effect, that the surrender of the quartos acre should take place to the landlord, or some properly authorise) officer. Earl GREY said that the principal clause as proposed by his Noble Friend purported that if a tenant were in possession of a quarter of an acre of land and a house, he should not be entitled to any relief under the Poor-law Act, and if he were obliged to surrender, he should surrender the entire holding, for it was clearly evident that if the tenant chose to surrender the land without the House, it would be a great injustice to the land lord if he were obliged to accept the surrender of the land without the house. If there were to be a surrender, there ought therefore to be a surrender of the whole of the holding. of Lordthee BROUG HA M was quite opposedlo the whole principle and he did not believe that any arrangement could Pc.'! , i•hty be devis:odfoerwthheeregranting out-door relief without work ing a g reat evil , n Earl FITZW li ILLIA ' said, that h Friend app eare d to have quite mistakenis measure, for it wou l d the N c l e h a and r a ct err Learned Friend not have the effect of increasing pauperism, but of reducin g it. On the question being put, The Earl of St. GER N I ANS f( said that the whole operation of the Bill would be oppressive, d quarters w of session of or for if a man were in the pos land, be might bean acre of aaonm,reestion, therefore, cf guattliaris for relic!, and the re , of r~hef, of Guardians were was the kind to the board was what was the amount of the relief, perable c,iamityeatmo administer. forari holding a which the Board Urider the pres , ure of an insu small portion of ground might be obliged to apply relief. and th, re was no all ernatve. whatever bulit'atTiacthil:l e rnnst give up his land, and he must either go into the k wor house, and thus bocome a permanent pauper, for without either hove or land lie must be in a state of destitution, and he must therefore either go into the workhouse or else throw hi, exertions into an already overstocked labour-market. For those reasons he hnd formed the opinion that it would be unwise to limit the relief to those who were not in the possession of any portion of land. He had shown, as he thought, that he bad not come to his conclusions with ,, ut sufficient grounds, and certain he was that some limitation should be placed on the power vested in the boast( of guardians, and with this expres sion of his feeling be would leave the clause in the hands of their Lord,.hips. The Earl of RODEN said that he believed some limit should be put on the lavish expenditure of the board of guar dians, for he believed that abuses roust prevail, unless the pro visions of the law was strictly carried out. He would state a cal which occurred during the lest autumn in the district of the board of guardians, of which he was a member. A man in that district had unfortunately fallen into great distress, ant he applied to . the board for relief, although lie was at the time possession of the holding from which his subsistence had been chiefly derived. The guardians had nevertheless granted the relief, although he had himself asserted, that if it were given, he should put his protest on the books against the pro ceedings. He had gone further, for he had written to the Poor-law Commissioners, but had unfortunately received no reply, although he had had a letter from the Assistant Com missioner. For his own part, he believed that the Act could never be effectually carried out without out-door relief, and he should, therefore, oppose the amendment. Lord BROUGHAM said that it was very evident that the relief was granted in the very teeth of the law, and that the Bill would, therefore, be ineffectual without some stringent regulation for preventing the board of guardians from grant ing assistance contrary to the regulations of the Act of Parliament. The Martinis of CLAN RICARDE thought that the case which had been made out by the Noble Earl opposite, quite showed the necessity for granting out-door relief ; but yet, it was perfectly evident that the small piece of land, held by these small tenants, would, at no time, either in the days of pros perity or under the pressure of calamity, suffice for their sup port, and therefore the clause was directly applicable to the purpose. 'I he Earl of CLANCARTY thought that his Noble Friend was mistaken in the view which he had taken. The amendment being withdrawn, the clause was agreed to, as well as clause 10. On clause 11 being read, The Earl of WICKLOW said that the result of this clause would be the effect of preventing the landlords improving their lands. He would move that the words out-door should be omitted. Lord BEAUMONT said, that they had now this rate hanging over their heads, the whole of their united interests would be to keep down the interest. The case was totally different in England and Ireland. The Earl of DEVON said, that he considered that this Bill would have the effect of giving employment to the people of Ireland, by making the landlords of Ireland desirous to employ the people, and by that means prevent the increase of the poor rate. Lord MONTEAGLE said, he believed that the out-door relief was that which was likely to be the most abused. What would be the effect of this clause ? Why they would tax the electoral division onlwhich capital had been expended, and where improvement had taken place; while they expended money on those electoral divisions where pauperism existed in proportion to the amount of population, which was, in fact, in proportion to its pauperism, no matter how that pauperism might be created. He saw, however, no reason for the adoption of this amendment now, for he thought it would.only have the effect of making things worse. The Earl of HAT HER TON said that the proposed amend ment would be a distinct warning to all English capitalists not to make an investment of their money in Ireland. The Marquis of CONN NG H AM made a few observations. Lord STANLEY wished to know from the Noble Earl who proposed the amendment whether it was his intention to proceed with it before the amendment which he (Lord Stan ley) intended to propose, for the omission of the clause alto gether, was disposed of ? The Earl of WICKLOW said if he found the Government disposed to oppose his amendment he would in that case with draw it, and supp ort the amendment of his Noble Friend (Lord Stanley), but until he heard from them what course they in tended to pursue he could not withdraw it. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would not accede to the amendment of the Noble Earl as the effect would be to induce boards of guardians to increase the expenses for out-door relief, so as to throw the whole burden of the rates upon the unions at large. The Earl of WICKLOW said that after what had fallen from the Noble Marquis, he would withdraw his amendment. Lord STANLEY then moved the rejection of the clause altogether. It appeared to him to be both unjust and impoli tic to introduce such a clause. It applied generally to all cases—to rack -renters, proprietors; and to liberal landlords. The former would have this chum as the premium for poverty, which their neglect of their duties had occasioned. The effect of the clause would, therefore, be unjust. He would state in illustration of this how he himself was circumstanced. The greater part of his property was situated in one electoral division, and comprised the half of the land in that division. Now, be was accountable for the half of the rates in, that division, while the pauperism on his property was only one fifteenth part of the whole. The area of England, as com pared with Ireland, was in the proportion of fifty-three to one hundred and forty-six—which meant that in Ireland they were nearly threefold, and he now put it to their Lordships whether any of them could think that they could carry on their estates with any power over their property, or the well-being of their tenantry ; if every person was entitled to charge the excess of his pauperism on a well managed estate, how were they to get on. Under the present Bill, when the rates ex ceeded 2s. 6d. in the pound, then they were entitled to call on the adjoining parish for assistance; 2s. 6d. was not an immo derate taxation, but he firmly believed that, if the present Bill psssed, they would never have a rate struck which would be under 2s. 6d. The great evils of the electoral districts at pre sent was, that they were too large.—( Hear, hear.) By the present Bill they were about to increase them twenty-fold.—( Hear, hear.) There was, at the present a real law of settlement in Ireland. It ran thus—that any person who, for the period of twelvemonths out of the last eighteen, shall have occul ied any tenement within the union, or not having occupied a tenement, but being resident in it, shaH have a claim to be relieved by the electoral dis trict. Consequently, if he sent a number of per sons into a neighbouring town, they should have no claim upon it, but upon the district where they last lived. With regard to the injustice of the clause, he would not say a word upon it, as he had not heard it denied. It simply imposed additional discouragement on the improvement of property and additional premiums on poverty. It would also discourage the investment of English capital in Ireland ; and a circumstance came to his knowledge the other day of a gentleman about to purchase property in Ire land, who asked as a preliminary question whether this clause would be inserted or not. For his own part, al though he had a pecuniary interest in the country, and much more, a personal interest in the welfare of his tenants, he, thank God, could give up his estates and retire on his other resources, relieving himself from the hopelessness of conduct ing his property without any benefit to himself or his tenantry. Earl GREY said that, if they considered this clause well, they would see good reason for retaining it ; and he could assure them that they would inflict great injury by rejecting it. He held in his baud a petition from Killarney, in which it was stated, that up to a recent period there had been three tithes' rates collected, and since that, in 1846, the rate collected in the town was Is. 6d. in the pound, and in the rural districts, only sixpence in the pound. He would prove, not alone from this, but from many other instances, that they would inflict great injustice by the rejection of this clause. Until the calamity of the potato-blight, the average amount of rates was sevenpence in the pound. He for one could not see upon what ground this calculation with regard to the state of Ireland was formed. It was as sumed that Ireland was a country above all others in the world Where the labourer was to be supported by charity. If he be lieved that he should indeed have a most fearful apprehension of the future. The population of Ireland could not be employed under such a charitable system. Their labour would be used by those who expected a profitable return for it. In Ireland, which was said to possess such facilities for the maintenance of its population, proper employment would, by the operation of this measure, be gradually introduced. His Noble Friend told them that his property in Ireland was taxed to the amount of one half of the rate collected in his electoral division, although one fifteenth only of the pauperism of that division ex isted on that property. The legitimate conclusion to which they would be drawn by his Noble Friend's argument would be to make every man responsible for the conduct of the people upon► his own estate, and that their employ ment, whether profitab'e or not, was a duty upon the proprietor. Such a system would bring about the state of things which existed in the southern portion of this kingdom in I >533. and which it was the object of the Act of 1834 to remove. Under that system each small district held itself responsible for its own poor, and thus the circulation of labour was put an end to, and a serious evil brought upon the country. This present Act, as it stood, was a fair compromise between conflicting difficulties and existing interests; it prevented the extreme either of charitable support by any district, or by any indivi dual. When the rate rose to a certain height, the burden was to fall upon a more extended district, and thus much distress and misery was removed from many small districts and parishes in that country. He hoped and trusted that their Lordships would consent to take this clause whole, and alto gether. Lord BROUGHAM said that it required much self-com mand to repress his desire to grapple with the argument which his Noble Friend had so ingeniously woven, and so impressively delivered, but he should confine himself to the more general details of the Bill. The assump tion that the labourers of Ireland were to be supported by harity, was not the assumption of those who opposed, but of those who favoured it. The Bill, itself, was founded upon that Issumption. The Bill was not a charity, which would be bene ficial to the labourer, but a compulsory one, which cursed those who received it, and oppressed those who gave it. It taught the labourer to rely, not upon his own industry, but upon this compul;ory assistance which this Bill was about to give them. In the argument upon this measure, as indeed upon all argument of this kind, they for2ot the original prin ciple of the poor law, which had been long forgotten, and which was consigned to a still deeper shade of oblivion by this measure. What was that first principle? not that the land , hould support the poor, and all other property should be , xempt, nor that the landlord and tenant should be rated at a rack-rent to support the paupers which , he wealthy manufacturer sent forth as locusts from his soil. Such was not the law of Elizabeth. That was an ' income-tax, and it called upon all property of any description whatever to support the poor man. The measure was one of gross and flagrant injustice—injustice and partial in its opera tion. There was 800,000,0001. of property in existence, not a halfpenny of which existed a t th e ti me o f fAizabeth, and who could doubt that if the original system of poor-rating had been begun in lb-17, instead of at the end of the sixteenth century, that a most effectual bar would have been put to the gross injustice which they were now about to inflict upon the country. The average in Ireland being 109 to 106, and he would venture to say that a worFe case could not possibly take place than that which his Noble Friend said took place in his own union. Then they had to deal with the Irish landlords ; a more improvident, it might be a more thoughtless, set of men—but still men; who, although careless of their interests were still aware of the difference between half-a-crown and a pound, and who, if they were less prudent in the management of their estates, were not less anxious than their more prudent neighbours for I he welfare of their country. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE had the highest respect for the opinions of his Noble and Learned Friend, but he could not possibly agree in the expression of an opinion that every estate ought to be made to support the labouring poor who were born upon it, for if that was not tube the rule the whole principles of political economy would be set aside, and he thought that all the el jections to the clause had been fully answered in the speech of his Noble Friend the Secretary for the Colonies (Earl Grey ). Unquestionably there was a great difference between destitution arid moderate employ ment. Nor did he think that the pauperised in the electoral districts ought to have any weight, for the fact, the residents in towns too often held out a premium for pauperism, :'or the induced those who had been engaged in country employments to settle there in the hope of M.taining rank-rents from their proprietors, and if this sy , tem were really to be altered, what was to become of proprietors in towns, for this measure had to a great -xtent been framed with a view to provide for the Pauperism of the country. But, in fact, it was in the power towns. Yet, he believed, that a great change ,if the electoral districts as now provided wrought by the payment \lany of the he towns, %v.'s to proceed, the y' employ ment in the country, ge, u ,e p u o l n d the be poor f of money wages instead of goods. in co o n the electoral districts now flocked into the want of to and if this mode of things unnecessary,e: a e m n , e ec l ue position ni y for,b be ruined, as if i t t s t wh r e 1: consequence e e Tc n aew e hdu e e: pi. t adopted, :I f , clause and the towns would v‘ouldwass,4thnerebfoere,intotatlhlye be quite superseded, and the landlords the relief committee would would to improve their property in Ireland. It he quit e una bl e m grea t anxiety in that country, f or it uwasst be a matt er o f ev if the principle of the clause was to be adopted, the lands that ad joining the towns would have to bear the rates.— _(_L ands ad loud cries of "Divide, divide.") Lord DESA RT said that the best criterion would be the dif ferent rates which had been levied, and those which have to be levied if these principles were to be applied. That difference was between 6. 1 :d. and 6s. 4., 1 _,(1., but much stresshad been laid upon the amount of money obtain ed for the rents in Ireland : but it should be recollected that the system pursued there was one grounded on a habit of taking the rack-rents, and these rents were collected weekly, so that while, in fact, the number of persons who had to pay the rate had decreased, the rents in many cases had in creased. This was a strong fact, which he thought it necessary to state, for between the census of 11+31 and 1841, there was a great difference, especially in the small towns; and in one instance which had come under his own particular knowledge, the population, which in 1831 was 5,431, bad in 1841 been reduced to 4,152, and in another from 901 to 609. Now, these facts showed that there was something more than the rental to be attended to in framing a law that was to regu late the rates.—(Cheers, and cries of " Divide, divide.") Earl FITZ WILLIAM said that the clause was not rightly applicable to all the districts, for in framing a poor-law fot Ire land, they ought to take all the districts—the high rated dis tricts as well as those which were rated lowly. The matter was of the utmost importance, as it was necessary to equalise the rating between the town and country districts, and if this benefit was to be obtained, they ought to take some other means for it. The Marquis of WESTMEATH conceived that the right means had been adopt€d for accomplishing the ends which the Government had in view, and he trusted that they would be careful in the steps which they took, for if it were necessary, he would take the responsibility of ascending the steps of the throne, even though he was alone, for an improvement of their plan. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would relieve the Noble Marquis behind him (the Marquis of Westmeath) of his res ponsibility, by expressing his hope that the several Noble Lords would take the course which the Government intended to adopt, and pursue that line of conduct which appeared to him to be most independent. —(Cheers.) Lord BROUGHAM hoped and believed that the Noble Marquis would not have to ascend the steps of the Throne alone.—( Great Laughter.) (Loud cries of " Divide, divide.") The House then divided— Contents Non contents Majority The clause was then struck out of the Bill. Clause 12 was agreed to. On clause 13 being read, Earl FITZWILLIAIII made a few observations, which were inaudible in the gallery, and the clause was agreed to. Clause 14 was agreed to, as well as clause 15. On clause 17 the Earl of CLANCARTY said that some measures should be taken for the more effectual collection of the arrears of the rates. Lord STANLEY said with reference to the observation of the Noble Earl (Clancarty) that unless measures were taken to collect each rate as far as it should be done, before another was struck, the consequence would be, that those who did pay, would in self-defence be obliged to refuse paymer t also, and they would do it too. He thought her Majesty's Government should give this matter their beat consideration, otherwise the rates would not be collected at all. Clause 18 was also agreed to. On the motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, the fur ther consideration of the clauses was adjourned till Monday. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOU&E OF COMMONS. May 7. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four o'clock. THIRD READINGS. The following Bills were read a third time and passed : Caledonian Railway (Extension of Motherwell Branch of Clydesdale Junction Railway to Auchinheath Mineral Field, with branches to the Wishaw and Coltness Railway, Can derside, and Hamilton). Caledonian Railway (Branches to Wilsontown, to Fauldhouse, and to Biggar and Broughton). Caledonian Railway (Branches from the Clydesdale Junction Railway to the Douglas and Lesmahagow Mineral Fields and to Strathavon). Colchester, Stour Valley, Sudbury, and Halstead Railway (Extension from Lavenham to Bury St. Edmund's). Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 2). Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway, and Glas gow and Belfast Union Railway (No. 1). Manchester Markets. Scottish Equitable Life Assurance Society. Wolverhampton Gas. the intention of her Majesty's Government to bring forward any measure for the alteration of the law of settlement in Ireland ? Sir G. GREY had received many communications upon the subject of the great amount of immigration of Irish pau pers to Liverpool. lie had been informed that from the 15th of January the number of Irish paupers who had arrived at Li verpool amounted to 180,000, of that number between 40,400 and 50,000 had emigrated again from that port, or gone further into the country. With reference to the adoption of mea sures to prevent 'he spread of disease, orders had been sent to the port of Liverpool, ordering that two ships should be set apart as lazarettos, or hos pital ships, so that all vessels coming into the Mersey with deck passengers from Ireland should be compelled to hoist the yellow flag, and go alongside the lazarettos and put their sick passengers on board. This measure had given great satisfaction to the inhabitants of Liverpool. With respect to the question of 250 paupers having been sent from Wexford to Liverpool, it appeared that those persons were wrecked on the coast of Wextxd, and that a subscription had been entered into by the Mayor and inhabitants of Wexford to charter a vessel for the purpose of carrying the poor people to Liverpool ; a letter was also sent with them, written by the Mayor of Wexford, recom mending those persons to the justice and mercy of the people of England. He was not able either to state that the Go . vernment proposed to relieve the existing pressure upon the poor-rates of the various parishes in England ._ad Wales, and they were not prepared to make any alteration in the law of settlement in Ireland. IRISH ABSENTEES. Sir W. BARRON wished to know whether any measure was to be introduced, to send back the 6,000,0001. of Irish property spent in this country by Irish proprietors, because he thought that, if the poor were to be sent back, it would be but right that the property should also be sent back.—(Laughter.) RAILWAYS BILL. Mr. HODGSON wished to know whether any alteration was proposed to be made in the Railway Bill, which he saw was appointed for the second reading on Friday next ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was the intention of the Government to make some alterations. in the Bill. He thought that the better course would be to allow the Bill to be read a second time sub silentio upon that occasion, and after that to take the discussion upon the Bill. Captain HARRIS said that he wished to ask the Noble Lord, the First Lord of the Treasury, whether it was the in tention of her Majesty's Government to introduce any measure to stop the continual exportation of wheat from this country ? The return which he held in his hand, showed that 134,000 quarters of wheat went out of the country in the month ending the sth April last, and there was reason to suppose that a much greater quantity of wheat had been exported in the pre vious months. . . Lord J. RUSSELL said that it was not the intention of the Government to introduce any such measure. years.—( Loud cries of " Name, name.) He certainly snould not, but he thought no one could be blind to the circumstances which were passing in Ireland, and the neces'ity there was for an efficient. measure for relief. Though this had not been the case, he certainly thought that, in the transition state from the public, works to the permanent measure for relief, that the proprietors in the neighbourhood of the places where the poor people lived, should find the means for that purpose. He would only further remark, that two gentlemen who had hitherto opposed out-door relief (Mr. Nichols, the Commissioner, and Mr. Gulson, the assistant Commissioner) had expressed their opinion that in the present state of Ireland such relief was necessary. Mr. S. CRAWFORD hoped that the third reading of this Bill would not take place until the House was put in pos session of the fate of the Bill in another place. Mr. F. FRENCH thought the question put by the Honourable Member for Stroud was fairly answered by the Noble Lord at the head of the Government. He did not see any principle which could justify the Hon. Member for Montrose in putting the question whether these advances to the relief of Ireland should be postponed, until the question at present under consideration in another place—he meant the Irish poor-law—was settled. The Hon. Member should remember that these advances were for the purpose of meeting the distress which prevailed, and he could not accede that Ireland should be dealt with in a different manner from England or Scoiland. Mr SHA W said that it was very inconvenient in discussing what wa. pa‘sing in the other house, but he did not think that they ought to pass the Bill referred to unless their was a right to relief. He considered that it was very unjust in the Noble Lord to refer to the case he did without giving the name of the party, as by his so doing he made the case apply to a whole class, which was neither just nor reasonable. He therefore wished that the House would forbear forming an opinion on that statement, for he did believe that the Irish landlords were doing their best, under very difficult circumstances, to relieve the distress. Sir H. W. BARRON complained that many humane and philanthropic landlords in Ireland had been attacked in that House for neglecting their duties, when, in truth, they were struggling by all the means in their power under the most adverse circumstances that men could be placed in to relieve the poverty and distress that was about them. They should recollect that Ireland had no native manufactures; that her landlords were absentees, and spent their money here and abroad, and that the soil was impoverished in conse quence ; and, therefore, Honourable Members who had never been in Ireland, and who knew little or nothing about that country went too far when they legislated for Ireland in this way, and without an adequate knowledge of her requirements. With all respect for his Hon. Friend the Member for Stroud, he must say that this was a most im proper time for him to have brought forward his motion. He ( Sir W. Barron) had always been in favour of a poor-law for Ireland ; but, at the same time, he objected to its being made a permanent measure, and he had the same objection to this measure being made a permanent measure, because he had great doubts as to how it would work. lir. ROSS said he had looked upon the Bill as a hazardous experiment, but he knew they must risk something, and there fore he should support it. He hoped, however, that no com binations would be entered into to prevent the carrying out of measure.---( Hear, hear.) He hoped, at the same time, that the poor-law would not be so mutilated in the other House of Parliament, as to render it defective; if it were so muti lated, they would have to perform again all the work they had done. Mr. B. ESCOTT said vagrancy in Ireland was punishable by transportation, and in order to discover how the present law worked, he had moved for returns on the subject, and complained that the returns had not been furnished. He stigmatised the conduct of those who, acting in opposition to the Noble Lord, had succeeded in mutilating the Poor-law Bill ; but he con sidered that the Noble Lord might now appeal to the country with far greater confidence and sympathy than at any past period of his administration. Mr. TRELAWN Y said Ireland had long recognised a per manent poor-law, and that was decidedly the feeling of the House. He trusted the Government would persevere in endeavouring to pass the Poor-law Bill as left by that House. The House then went into Committee on the Bill. Clause Ist was agreed to. On clause 2 being proposed, Mr. P. SCROPE proposed an amendment, to the effect that the capability, of a man who deserted his family to support them, should be inquired into before his conviction. Mr. SHAW said the law referred to existed, and that vagrants were liable to seven years' transportation. It was an objectionable law, but it did not work the mischief the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Escott) seemed to conceive. Mr. S. GBAWFORIi said the law was not often put in force, but prostitutes and disorderly persons were occasionally brought up before grand Juries at quarter sessions, in accord ance with it, and punished under it. It was a law which ought at once to be repealed. Mr. SHAW said no persons were punished under the Act unless there was presumptive evidence of crime against them. Mr. B. ESCOTT said the Hon. Gentleman's statement confirmed his worst suspicions with respect to the existing law of vagrancy, and that it placed a man in great danger of losing his liberty for years if an act of simple vagrancy was proved against him. In England men were not punished on presump tive evidence of crime. The law had been carried out against several persons, as the returns he had moved for would show ; and if he was nut able to. procure them, he should endeavour to get them through some other source. Mr. HENLEY considered it necessary that it should be clelrly ascertained whether a man had wilfully deserted his family, or whether he had been compelled to leave them from distress. Mr. P. SCROPE explained. It was unfortunately a com mon practice in Ireland for men to desert their families, hut they frequently did so from distress ; for instance, to work else where ; he simply asked them to introduce a proviso to pre vent a man from being imprisoned three months, who had not, in the strict sense of the word, deserted his family. After a desultory conversation, the amendment was with drawn and the clause agreed to. On clause 3 being read, Mr. M. O'FERRALL suggested to the Government the proprietary of limiting or defining the class of persons who were to carry the provisions of this clause into effect. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said there were two classes of men-. dicants in Ireland; one living upon the hospitality of their friends, wandering nbout from place to place, and the other de manding relief where their intimidating acts could extort it. Now this clause was to suppress that state of things. The country was more infested with mendicants and sturdy beggars than this country before the law was passed for punishing wilful mendicancy, and relieving the destitute poor. True it would be difficult to effect the reform in tended to be brought about by this clause but the wandering mendicant habits of a large body of the Irish peasantry must be changed before they could work any good in that country, and he had, therefore, no hesitation in pressing for the continuance of this clause in its present form. Mr. M. O'FERRALL said the Noble Lord had misunder stood him. He did not object to the powers proposed to be taken by the clause. All that he wanted was, that the exe cution of the powers should be trusted to cautious and discreet hands. Mr. GREGORY agreed with the Noble Lord that the mendicant habits of the people was a curse to Ireland, and he should certainly vote for the clause. After a few words from Mr. BELLEW, who supported the clause, Sir WALTER JAMES said they were about to attempt a dangerous experiment, for the confirmed habits of a people were not so easily changed as some Hon. Gentlemen might suppose. Besides, it must be remembered that they were dealing with a Roman Catholic people, who entertained a feeling that they had a right to beg, and they ought therefore, to be the more cautious in legiilating upon this subject. He apprehended that all that would be required, was now and then to make an example of incorrigible mendicants, and ho thought, instead of the power to commit for the offence of begging being vested in the hands of one magistrate, it ought to be extended to two justices of the peace in petty sessions assembled. After a few words from Sir G. GREY, . . Mr. P. SCROPE said there could be no doubt that men dicancy was practised to a very great extent in Ireland, by persons who were not really destitute. Many Irish beggars had been known to give their daughters marriage portions, while he found it related by Mr. Carlton in his tales of the Irish peasantry that n Ireland it not unfrequently happened that a beggar caned upon a farmer to beg a little meal, and finding that he had none, offering to sell a peck, which he had in his possession, below the market price. An effort he thought, however difficult, ought to be made to put an end to such a state of things as that.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. D. CALLIGAN said no one was more anxious to put a atop to professional mendicancy in Ireland than he was ; but it was a difficult task to alter the habits of a people. The Irish people were remarkable for their hospitality, and he knew many small farmers who took a delight in relieving all who applied to them in the character of destitute poor. If they could pa.s a Bill which should restrain the donor from giving he thought they would be striking a blow at the root of the evil ; but in the existing state of feeling and affairs in Ireland, he could not consent to the passing of a Bill of pains and penalties pressing wholly upon the poor.—( Hear, hear.) After a few words from Lord Sandon, Mr. More O'Ferrall, Sir D. Norreys, Mr. Young, and Lord Arundel, Mr. P. SCROPE moved a verbal amendment. The gallery was ordered to be cleared, but the amendment was withdrawn without a division. The clause was then agreed to. The 4th clause, as amended, was agreed to ; so were 5,6, 7,8, and the other clauses. The House resumed, and the report was ordered to be brought up on Monday next. POOR RELIEF SUPERVISION (IRELAND) BILL ti o. 11. On the order of the day for going into Committee on this Bill, Sir ROBERT FERGUSON remarked that the commis sion under this Bill was made permanent; whereas by the English measure it lasted for only five years. The Hon- Ba ronet cursorily remarked several other minor differences be between the English and Irish Bills. He thought, if the twe countries were to be similarly governed, the two measures had better be the same ; and he wished to know from the Noble Lord what was the reason for introducing these differences. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said with regard to one of the dif f,rences alluded to by the Hon. Baronet, namely, that this Bill was limited in its time of operation ; he had to state that since the Bill had been introduced, the Government had re solved to alter this provision to five years, the time in the English' Bill. It was impossible to expect that every provi sion of the Bills should be the same, considering the different character of the two nations ; but the general principle exist ing in the English measure had been adopted for the measure for Ireland. Saving some small difference the Bills might be said to be nearly similar. The House dim went into Committee on the Bill. Clause 1, after a few remarks from Mr. P. SCROPE, Mr. LABOUCHERE, and other Hon. Gentlemen, was agreed to. As were clauses 2 and 3. Clause 4 was agreed to as amended. On clause 5, Sir R. FERGUSON remarked, the difference between this provision and the corresponding provision in the English measure, which required the secretaries, &c., to act under a seal. Mr. F. FRENCH agreed with the Hen. Baronet. Ac cording to this Bill, the officers, like all officers in Ireland, were to be irresponsible. He complained that in the Board of Works there was no one to answer for complaints. The clause was then agreed to, as was clause 6. Clauses 7 and 8 were postponed. Clause 9, as amended, was agreed to ; so was clause 10. Clauses, from 11 to 14, were then agreed to. On clause 15 being proposed, Sir ROBERT FERGUSON proposed an amendment, which he, however, immediately withdrew ; and the remain ing clau ses h av i ng been agreed to, the H ouse resume d. Re port on Monday. POOR REMOVAL BILL (ENGLAND AND SCOT LAND. ) Sir G. GREY moved the second reading of this Bill. . Sir D. NORREYS co mplained that the Bill would d e injuri ously aff ec t th ose I r i s h persons w h o had become residents in this country. Sir G. GREY said that the Bill did not materially diff th e e r from th e P oor R emova l Bill which had been pass ed; only material difference was, that the proces s b y which a person was removed to his legal settlement, , wa s more simple, more at present. Thus, if a expeditio us , an d l ess e xpensive than person became chargeable, he would be immediately summoned before a magistrate, before whom he_ would be examined as to his settlement, to which he would, in the ordinary course, be removed ; but he would not be removed because he was au REPORTS. The following reports were brought up and ordered to be engrossed : Birkenhead (Commissioners) Dock Acts Amendment (con struction of New Docks and alteration of Culvert). Birkenhead Dock Company and Herculaneum Dock Company Amalgamation. Caledonian Railway (Branch across Clyde and Glasgow Station.) Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 4). Ipswich and Bury St. Edmund's Railway (No. I)—Extension to Yarmouth. The reports on the following Bills were further considered and agreed to : Shipowners' Towing Company. Terrington Marsh Division, Allotment, and Harbour. Mr. GREENE moved That the order made on the 3,lday of this instant May, referring the petition of the Lancaster and Carlisle Railway Company, against the North Western Rail way (Deviations at Skipton, Casterton, and Sedbergh ) Bill, to the Committee on the Bill, be read. That the said order be discharged. That the utition be withdrawn.-- Agreed to. MEDICAL REGISTRATION BILL. Petitions were presented in favour of the Medical Registra tion Bill, by Dr. Bowring, Mr. Tatton Egerton, and Captain Berkeley. HEALTH OF TOWNS. Lord EBRINGTON and Captain BERKELEY presented petitions in favour of the Health of Towns Bill. GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY. Mr. GISBORNE moved, pursuant to notice, " That it be an Instruction to the Committee oil the Great Northern Rail way (Deviations between London and Grantham) Bill, to entertain the petition signed by William Fletcher Norton Norton, the Chairman of the Ambergate, Nottingham, Boston, and Eastern Junction Railway Company (presented 3d May), as the petition of that Company, although it does not bear the corporate seal of the company." Mr. ESTCOURT doubted the propriety of granting the motion. Mr. AGLION BY thought the motion ought to be agreed to, believing that if it was not great injustice would be done. After some observations from Mr. GREENE, Mr. GISIIORNE said, that considering the circumstances under which the petition was drawn up, he thought the House should accede to his motion. He would press it to a division. After some further conversation, the House divided, when there appeared— For the motion l9 Against it 65 Majority against the petition... —46 The announcement of the numbers was received with loud cheers. Mr. ORNISBY GORE moved that the evidence given be fore the Committees on the Shropshire Union Railways and Canal Bills (Chester and Wolverhampton Line, Shrewsbury and Stafford Line, and Newtown and Crewe Line), in the last session of Parliament, be referred to the Committee on Group No. 21 of Railway Bills. Sir JAMES GRAHAM mid that, as chairman of the group to whom this evidence was to be referred, he was unwilling to say anything, but they had all the evidence before them which they could desire. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL said, that if they were always referring evidence to a Committee, in the manner proposed, the session would be closed before the labours of the Committee had been completed. Mr. ORMSBY GORE then wlhdrew his motion. HEALTH OF TOWNS BILL. Dr. BOWRING presented two petitions from the composi tors of the London periodical press in favour of the Health of Towns Bill. CHESTER AND HOLYHEAD RAILWAY. Viscount SANDON moved, That in the case of the Chester and Holyhead Railway Bill, in Group No. 24, a Commis sion, having been appointed to examine the merits of the proposed harbour at Holyhead, in reference to which the plans of the above railway have been prepared, it be an instruction to the Committee on the said Bill, that the consideration of the same be postponed until the report of said Commission be re ceived. On the motion being seconded, Mr. W. 0. STANLEY thought that the Noble Lord might have allowed the Committee to receive the evidence on this Bill before he brought forward this motion. He considered that the Government might have ad vanced the progress of this measure, instead of allow ing it to be deferred to this late period of the session. He had no desire to oppcse the motion of the Noble Lord, but he at the same time thought that the promoters of this scheme had not been too well treated. After a few words from Lord SANDON, the motion was agreed to: Several message., were brought from the Lords. IMPORTATION OF COPPER ORE. Mr. MUNTZ gave notice that on the 13th of May he should move that the House resolve itself into Committee on the duties imposed on the introduction of copper ore into this country, with a view to their total abolition. RAILWAY CAPITAL. Mr. HUME moved that it be an instruction to the Select Committee on Railways that they do not pass the preamble of any Bill where :the companies suing for it did not possess sufficient capital. DROPPED ORDERS.—POOR REMOVAL BILL. Mr. G. BANK ES postponed his motion for the repeal ol ,his Bill till Tuesday next. HOSIERY BILL. Sir H. HA LFORD postponed the second reading of the Hosiery Bill till Tuesday next, but hoped that the Government would give some facility for the progress of the Bill. TENANT-RIGHT (IRELAND) BILL. Mr- S. CRAWFORD, on being called upon, said that he really did not know what to do with this Bill. It appeared that there was not the slightest probability of its coming on on Wednesday next, and he very much feared that no House would be made on Wednesday, the 19th—(Laughter)—but if the Government would agree to make a House, he would fix the second reading for that dm—This was agreed to. POSTPONEMENT OF FURTHER MONEY GRANTS TO IRELAND. On the question being put that the House at its rising do adjourn till Monday, 3lr. HUME said, he observed that the Bill for voting 620,000!. to certain Irish railways stood on the orders of the day for to-night. Now, he wished to ask the Noble Lord at the head of the Government whether it was his intention to proceed with the Bill to-night, after what had occurred last evening in another place? Lord JOHN RUSSELL—Sir, in reply to the question of the Hon. Gentleman, I beg to state that independently of what has taken place in another House it is my intention to postpone the second reading of the Bill till Friday nest.— ( Cheers.) The motion for the adjournment was then agreed to. HAYDOCK LODGE. Mr. W. 0. STANLEY wished to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in conformity with the recommendation of the Commissioners in Lunacy in their last report upon Haydock Lodge, the magistrates of the county of Lancaster, on the renewal of the license this year, have re quired the proprietor, Mr. Coode, to reside on the premises; and also to provide a competent medical assistant, likewise to reside in the asylum ? Sir G. GREY, in answer to the question, said—l beg to state, that originally a correspondence took place between the Commissioners and the visiting justices on the subject of this license, and the result was that it was only granted for a short period. Upon its renewal the license was granted in the name of Mr. Jackson, who resided on the premises, and he un:lerstood that, at the same time, security was taken to insure the appointment of a resident medical officer ; and a gentleman named Green, a most competent person, had since been appointed to the office. Mr. IV. 0. STANLEY gave notice that, on Tuesday, he should call the attention of the House to the report of the Commissioners on this subject. IRISH PAUPERS. Sir B. HALL wished to ask a question of the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department. He wished to know whether the Government had received any information with respect to 250 Irish paupers sent to Liverpool by the Mayor and inhabitants of Wexford, 130 of whom im mediately became chargeable to the parish of Liverpool? He also wished to know whether any steps had been taken to preven t the spre a d o f di sease consequent upon this influx of Irish paupers,? He wished also to know whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to take any steps to relieve the great pressure of the poor's-rates: in various parts of England and Wales, by the influx of those ps.upers ; and also, whether it was ARMY - RETURNS. Mr. F. MAULE said that two days ago the Hon. and Gal lant Member for Liverpool obtained assent to a motion as an unopposed return. It was a return of the surgeons, paymas ters, and quartermasters, with the dates of their services. He (Mr. F. Maule) did not object to that, but the motion con cluded with an order for the grounds why those parties had been excluded from the benefits of the recent advances made in the officers of the army. He wished to make this state ment ere he made a motion on the subject, and he now gave notice, that on Monday next, he would move that that portion of the order be rescinded. Consideration for that department, and the public service, required that this return should not be made. INCREASE OF PENSIONS TO THE SOLDIERS. In answer to a question from Captain LAYARD, Mr. F. AIAULE said that it was the intention of the Go vernment to recommend the alteration of the warrant formerly issued, so as to increase the minimum rate of 6d. to M. a day. Also, to provide for an extra pay for good service after 21 years. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. HORSAIAI4 wished to know which measure the Go.. vernment intended to proceed with on Monday neat. He thought the Health of Towns Bill was in the list of orders for that day. Lord JOHN RUSSELL replied, that it was his intention to proceed with the Prisons and Transportation Bill on Monday, but preliminary to that, the Chancellor of the Exchequer would bring some business under the consideration of the House. STATE OF THE MONEY MARKET. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said—Sir, I are about to take a course which is somewhat irregular in point of form, but which is necessary, in order that on Monday next I may take a step which is called for by the monetary state of the country, and I hope that the fever ish anxiety which prevails on this subject, not only in the City, but throughout the country, may be allayed by my stating shortly the inten tions of the Government; and I am: sure I need hardly say that the subject has occupied the anxious consideration of her Majesty's Government.—( Hear, hear.) My Noble Friend and myself have received from day to day communications upon this subject; we have had interviews with deputations from various parts of the country in relation to it; and we are daily, in fact hourly, in communication with those who are hest able to give advice and information on the state of the money market, and the steps which ought to be taken under the circumstances which exist.—(Hear.) The communications made to us might be classed into two divisions, and of these the parties from the country suggested a course to be taken by the Government, or the Bank with the concurrence of the Go vernment, which would, in fact, amount to a suspension of the present law by which the currency of this country is regu lated. I shall not go into that question on this occasion fur ther than to say that such a course is one which her Ma jesty's Government are not prepared to adopt—( Hear, hear, and cheers)—and having made that statement, I think it right to state that, consistently with the existence of the present law regulating the currency of the country, every facility should be given which could be consistently and legally given, and that no course ought to be taken on the part of the Government which would have a tendency to in terfere with that accommodation which has been usually freely given on good security.—(llear, hear.) It is just a week ago since I stated in this House that the stringent measures which had been previously adopted need not continue to the extent to which they had been put in operation, but I must have been misunderstood if I am supposed en that occasion to have said that the danger was over. What I said on that oc casion was, that the necessity for the stringent measures which had been adopted had ceased, and I added that two days before the Batik had relaxed its regulations, and that it would be enabled to give within reasonable and moderate bounds a greater degree of accommodation than it had some days before. What I then said has been borne out by the fact that 400,0004 in gold and silver bullion have been received since last Satur day, and that the Bank will thus have been placed in a position to give increased accommodation to that extent. I cannot in terfere with the measures which may be taken by the Bank of England, but so far as the Government securities are con cerned, I wish to place them in such a position that they may be rendered as available as they usually are to those who hold them, and I am ready to the utmost of my power to aid in lightening the pressure by that means. It appears the Govern ment securities which labour under the deepest depression at present are Exchequer-bills, and although the time for doing it has not arrived, I think it right to state, in order to relieve the anxiety which exists, that from the day in June at which the exchange takes place, it is my intention to propose that the rate of interest on Excisequer.bills shall be raised to 3d. per diem. I find that the mode of raising money on Exchequer bills is one with respect to which great difference of opinion prevails but lam happy to be able to state that the Bank finds itself in a condition to make advances on Exchequer-bills : it has done so to-day, and a communication was made to all the brokers that it would do so; it met all the demands of that nature which were made on it to-day, and the whole sum which it so advanced to-day did not exceed 170,0001. That determination of the Bank will be a great accommodation to the public.—( Hear, hear.) With regard to the Exchequer it is exceedingly desirable that it should not be under the neces• sity of requiring larger advances than usual, and I am happy to say that, n otwithstanding the difficulty of obtaining money, the average payments of accounts last week were made, asid on the whole matters are much easier, and the extremity of the pressure is passed. In order to carry out the view which I have described, I propose to offer an inducement to persons who have contracted for the Government loan to pay up the instal ments of the sums for which they have contracted, and I fully believe that a great number of them will pay up the whole or part of their instalments between this and the sth of July. In order to carry this plan into effect, I shall propose on Mon day, that the Houseresolve itself into a Committee toempower an offer of advance of interest on the prompt payment of those instalments.—( Hear, hear.) That discount is to he allowed on all sums of money paid on this account before Friday, the 18th of June. in this manner :—Any person paying before the 18th of June an instalment due on a day subsequent to the 18th, will receive this advance of interest in the way of discount, to be calculated from the day on which it shall be paid, to the day on which it is due. Thus, if any one pays early in May an instalment true in June, it will entitle him to a month's interest; if the instalment paid in May be due in July, it will entitle the party to two months' interest ; and if the in stalment so paid be due in August, to three months' interest. In proposing to adopt that plan I must re-assure the House of my hope that considerable sums of money will be paid up in this manner—sums sufficient to place the Exchequer in a very satisfactory position. I propose, therefore, that the House will, on Monday, go into Committee, for the purpose of consi dering the propriety of authorising the Exchequer to pay a certain rate of interest by way of discount on any instalments of the loan which may be so paid up. The motion was then agreed to. PUNISHMENT OF VAGRANTS (IRELAND) BILL. On the question being put for going into Committee on this Bill, Mr. P. SCROPE said he wished to ask a question of the Noble Lord at the head of the Goverment. It was of the utmost importance that this question should be decided, and that the House and the eoentry should know whether the poor law for Ireland was to be of a permanent, or only of a tempo rary character. If it were to be permanent for three years only, much uncertainty would be created; and he would draw the attention of the House to the fact, to the belief, that if it were to be only of a temporary character, it would be worth less and hopeless. The poor would not confide in it, and the rich would not act upon it, or in any way promote the general welfare of the country ; for the absentee landlords, who are now spending their incomes in France or Italy, would not return to do their duty to their country, and look after their property.—( Hear, hear.) On the contrary, if it were to be of a permanent character, it would be in every way useful, and he trusted, therefore, that the Bill would be of a permanent nature. The people of this country had come to the decision that the time had arrived when some measures should be taken for prev enting the people of this country from falling i n t o th e d e plorable state of misery which had fallen upon the people of Ireland. They had come to that opinion from motives which were quite justifiable. He knew that they hail to maintain their own poor, and that unless some provision of a permanent nature was made for the relief of the poor of Ireland, the industrious people of England would come into the condition of the potato-fed and miserab l y p aid p eo p le of that country. He therefore wished to ask the Noble Lord whether he was prepared to-night to state what the permanent character of the Bill would be? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the Hon. Gentleman had asked him for an explanation as to whether the Government should go on with the present Bill pending the proceedings in another place. In the first place, he might answer, he was more than ever convinced that such a Bill for the relief of the poor of Ireland was necessary. Still, he he did not thi nk tha t a reason for postponing., the present Bill. He thought, how ever, that if the Poor-law Bill was limited in its operation in point of time, he could not ask the House to pass the present measure, which was of a penal character, without a similar limitation. He did not think it would be proper to give way to a feeling of jealousy in regard to the proceedings elsewhere. or that they should say, that unless the Poor Relief Bill was passed in another place, they would not agree to the Vagrancy Bill here. He hoped they would go into Committee now, and at some future stage of the Bill they could consider whether they should introduce clauses to limit its dura tion. With regard to such a poor-law for Ireland as they had agreed to, he was more than ever convinced of its ne cessity, and that the Bill as it had passed through that House was absolutely required. He had only that day received a state ment respecting a poor 403. freeholder, who, for many yea rs , had been the serf or sl ave o f a l an ded proprietor, who having accepted a small su m f or hi s f ree hold, was turned out an d allowed to starve, and his wife and child had died for want of food refused by those on w h ose lands he had lived for many' I Irishman. The Houso was no doubt aware that many corn ! plaints had recently come fi om Liverpool, with respect to the immigration of destitute Irish persons into that town—in fact, to such an extent had this taken place, that the workhouse accommodation was quite inadequate for their reception. If a summons was applied for against any of them, it was wholly inoperative, as the person to whom it was directed, could not frequently be found. This would be remedied by the Bill before the House ; as its object was to render it necessary that parties coming over from Ireland, or from a place from another part of this country, should at once be examined, and an order made at once, if the case was a fit one for removal ; but no one at present, not liable to be removed, would be removed under this Bill. Sir J. GRAHAM said he should be glad to give his sup port to the Bill, bat at the same time he could not help ex pressing his conviction that it would ultimately he found to fall far short of the necessity of the occasion which had led to its introduction.—( Hear.) During the last few years great alte rations had been made with respect to the removal of the poor both in England and Scotland. Till 1544 the burden of re moving the poor was placed upon the counties, and, conse quently, when it was a county charge and not a parochial one, there was much less hesitation in carrying it into exe cution. He believed the task was so extremely one rous before the Irish pauper could be removed ; there were so many obstructions and so many heavy charges on the parishes that it was resorted to with reluctance ; and, in addition, the pauper must be accompanied by an officer, hut he hoped that the time would come when the destitute Irish poor would be relieved in their own country ; but until that time did arrive, it would be better to consider whether the destitute Irish poor could not be removed in a more sum mary and cheaper manner than at present. Yet though this Bill would remove some of the difficulties, it would not remove some of the objections which now existed to the removal of the Irish. 'With respect to Liverpool, the Right Hon. Baronet ( Sir G. Grey) had stated that he had adopted what he ( Sir James Graham) considered proper measures of quarantine with respect to the proprietors of steamers in the habit of bringing over large numbers of destitute paupers ; but if he was rightly informed, the state of things in Liverpool was ex tremely anomalous. For instance, there was a stipendiary ma gistrate in Liverpool, who, because he entertained some scru ples with respect to the state of things in Ireland, would not grant warrants for the removal of destitute persons to Ireland, unless a mandamus was moved for in the Court of Queen's Bench; therefore the law relating to the removal of the poor was suspended by a stipendiary magistrate. But this was not all ; the Liverpool ratepayers wished to get the destitute Irish distributed over the whole country, and money had actu ally been advanced to pass them, by the aid of cheap trains, to the metropolis. What would this lead to? It would infallibly lead to disease, and the English labourer would be brought, of necessity, to the condition of the Irish labourer.— (Cheers.) Disease, poverty, and misery would, therefore, be spread throughout the metropolis—( Hear, hear)—and the Go , vernment would ultimately be compelled to resort to mea sures to send the destitute poor to their own country. This measure, so far from being sufficient for the emergency, would be found vastly insufficient, and must come again before Par liament, when measures equivalent to the necessity which required them, would be found indispensable.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. P. SCROPE thought a change absolutely necessary, and that the present shuttlecock system ought to be done away with. They ought, at all events, not to rest till the soil of Ireland was made to sustain the Irish poor. Mr. FRENCH objected to the Hon. Member for Stroud always referring to the conduct of the people of Ireland in those matters relating to England. Mr. CARDWELL called the attention of the Hon. Mem ber for Roscommon to the condition of Liverpool during the last few months. Liverpool, which with a population of 300,000, had had added to it 100,000 destitute Irish persons, who had been treated by the inhabitants of that town in the most exemplary manner. Now the object of the present Bill was to afford a relief to this state of things. Sir W. BARRON agreed with the Hon. Member for Mayo in his objection to the portion of the Bill relating to the removal of the Irish poor from England. The Bill empowered magistrates in the most summary manner to take up any per , son on the suspicion of pauperism, and send them out of the country. Now if Ireland was a portion of the United King dom, he could not see how such an arbitrary law should exist. He could not see how they should apply a different law to Ire land, to that they would impose on Scotland or Yorkshire. A , more dangerous, unwise, and impracticable measure was never , devised by any man having common sense. It was a law more adapted for Ru.sia, than a country professing to be free. , Lord SANDON was surprised at the indignation expressed by the Hon. Member. Were it really intended to deprive the people, coming from Ireland to this country, then there might be some reason for it. But this was not the object of the Bill. , Its object was to do away with a technical objection which pre vented the proper working of the measure, the intention of which was to provide for the removal of those who could not give any explanation that they were not paupers, and likely to become dependent on English relief. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped the statement of the Noble Lord would satisfy those who had ex pressed themselves against the Bill. He must say he had been much surprised at the speech of the Hon. Member for Roscommon, which proceeded on an entire misunderstanding of the Bill. It was a measure applicable to all parts of the empire alike—whether Scotland or the Isle of Man, as well as Ireland. It was provided that wherever a person became chargeable to a parish in England, if he was a native of any of those places, he could be removed there. A simi lar provision existed in the Scotch poor-law, as ap • plied to the natives of England, the Isle of Alan, or Ireland.—( Hear.) At present a summons was necessary in order to effect a removal; but the circum stances of Liverpool, from the immense number of paupers there, were such, that the present alteration was proposed, which was, that the overseer, or relieving officer, who was applied to for relief should have the power to take the party so applying before a magistrate, who had the power, on examina tion, to order a removal. The whole object of the Bill was to dispense with the . : service of the summons, and he must say, that he could not see in the Bill any peculiar hardship to Ireland. Sir H. W. BARRON did not object to the poor being removed from England to Ireland, but he really did object to the monstrous provisions of thif Bill. Mr. I'. SCROPE explained. Mr. WAKLEY much regretted having heard the speech of the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down, calculated, as it was, to produce ill feeling in Ireland. After the millions this coun try had voted to Ireland for her relief, he was surprised to hear the language used by the Hon. Baronet, particularly when he I remembered that had the landed interest of Ireland done their duty towards the poor of their own country, much of the pre sent misery would have been averted. Notwithstanding that, the Hon. Baronet considered the present proposed relaxation of the law was unjust, he very much feared the law would still remain inoperative, owing to the great expense which the removal of the poor involved. Why, in his own parish, or rather a parish in this metropolis with which he was recently connected, of all the removals that took place every eleven out of twelve were Irish paupers. Why, then, did the Honourable Baronet use such language as he had done to that House. Had the Hon. Baronet read the return which had re cently been made upon the present state of the poor in Ireland? If he had he must have seen that in Cork hundreds, nay, thousands were dying of fever without a hand to help them to a cup of water to quench their burning thirst. What were the Irish gentry about ?—( Hear, hear.) It was time this country spoke out. Already the ill effects of this neglect on the part of the Irish gentry had made their appearance, within a few miles of this metropolis. He grieved to say it, but it was too true, that the typhus fever had broken out in many of the metropolitan workhouses, and it was high time the voice of this country was heard. He understood that in an other place a successful attempt had been made to restrict the operation of a poor-law for Ireland, but he warned the Irish landed interest that the time was coming when this country would be compelled, in self-defence, to force such a law upon them. Mr. FORBES said he was unfortunate enough to have taken an unpopular view of the Irish question, but still he did not object to the passing of this Bill, though he must protest against the abuse which some Hon. Gentlemen in that House were continually heaping upon Irish landlords. As a body the landed interest of Ireland had strove hard to do their duty, and it was too bad that they should be subjected to abuse because they could not mitigate all the evils that surrounded them without having recourse to some adventitious aid. Mr. GRAINGER said in his opinion Irish Members had a perfect right to object to the passing of this Bill. Its powers might be necessary, but there was no protection against their being abused. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said it appeared to him, from what had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, that Irish Members did not object to the principle of the Bill, but only to the mariner in which it was proposed to be carried out. He had therefore thought that this discussion would have produced more beneficial and effective results, had it been deferred till they got into Committee on the Bill. Sir ROBERT FERGUSON did not deny that the distress mentioned by the Hon. Member for Finsbury was terribly severe, but still it did not follow that the guardians and relievers of the poor had not done their duty. If the lion. Member would move for a return of what they had done, he would find that they had been most energetic in their efforts to mitigate the distress and suffering, while several of the resident gentry had fallen victims to their praiseworthy exertions to aid in assuaging the prevailing ,misery of the people. No doubt there were instances where the guardians had neglected their duties, but in far the greater number of instances (and the absence of many Hon. Members from that House proved the assertion) they had nobly remained to adminster to the sick in their neighbourhood. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed. On the question that the House resolve itself into Committee of Supply, POST-OFFICE ARRANGEMENTS IN THE HEBRIDES. Mr. H. BAILLIE rose to call the attention of the House to the defective postal arrangements in the Hebrides. The Hon. Member said that hitherto the only means of postal e packet communi cation with Long Island, one of the Hebrides, was by a p col. maintained at the joint expense of Lord Macdonalda n d Gordon, the two principal proprietors. A few }ears Gordon withdrew his contribution to the support,as upon him, and in consequence of the many and repeated calls Macdona Yoefalt.h s e ag p o ac C ke o t l , , caused by the distress at present existing, Lord The had threatened to withdraw his proportion amunication. He had people would thus he deprived of all post-office co ti lli on of the Government thought it necessary to call the to the subject, in the hope that they :would adopt some means of affording this very necessary ftcooeh no official report had Mr. PARKER said tha l i e had no doubt the attention of been made to the Treasury , i the Postmaster w ould be g iven to the subj ect. SUPPL Y ' The House then we nt into Cm m fo i r tte d e e . fraying the charges o f A vote of 453,786/. was take the Commissariat department. was taken for the half-pay and pension A vote of 4 0 , 646/. allowances. On the proposition that _a vote_ of 50,000/. be taken f or th e wor ks on the Caledonian Canal, Mr. HUME and Mr. WILLIAMS objected on the grounds that the canal was worthless as a national work. After a desultory conversation, the vote was agreed to. The vote of 20,476/. for the Commissioners of Public Works in Ireland was agreed to. 8.20 • 01 for Kingston Harbour was agreed to. The vote of 25,000/. for the salaries and expenses attending the Houses of Parliament was agreed to. The following votes were agreed to:- 56,9001., :for salaries and expenses in the department of the Treasury. 16,400/, for salaries and expenses in the Home Depart ment. 71,0001., for salaries, &c. in the Secretary's office for Fo reign Affairs. 18,000!., for salaries, &c. in the Secretary's office for the Colonies. 37,7001., for salaries in tho offices of the Privy Council. 2,0004, for salaries in the office of the Lord Privy Seal. 26,722/, for salarie s i n t h e of fi ce of the Paymaster-Ge neral. The next vote proposed was 15,823/. for the salary and expenses of the office of the Comptroller -General of the Ex chequer. Colonel SIBTHORP opposed the vote on the ground that the office was an useless one, and ought to be " knocked off." It was, however, agreed to. '1 he next vote was 2,650/, to pay the salaries of the officers and the ex p enses o f the State Paper-office, which was also agreed to. 3,4401. was uz, , xt poposed to defray th e or th isoa Ecclesiastic a l Commissioners to the 3lst of March last. Nlr. WILLIAMS opposed tha Bill on the g round that ih• expenses of the commission ought to be paid out of the IMP 1 rev Lord of the Crch. JOHN RU hu SSELL explained that it w as arranged at the time the commission was appointed, that its expenses should be paid by the State. Mr. HUE urged the Noble Lord to postpone the vote ti 1E the mode in which the money was expended was laid in detail before the House. The Hon. Gentleman the Member fo r Maldon had a motion on the paper for that purpose —so tha the House would soon be in a position to judge of the expen diture. Mr. GOULBURN defended the Church, and consid ered that the St a t e ou g ht to pay for the expense of the Commis sion, as they had to perform a national duty with respect to education. Mr. HUME considered that his Presbyterian constituent! hicb ought not to be called upon to pay for a C ommission w had no sympathy fur their religious predilections. Lord JOHN RUSSELL could not consent to postV ne the Bill. After a desultory conversation, Te vo was ag to A h vote te of IS2. 2CO/. reed for • the administration of the Poor -110, England and Scotland, aving `thisod, Colonel SIIITHORP I- thought Poor-law Commission was only fraught with evil, and he could not supp ort thee vosts.o Mr. BANKES did not wish to anticipate the disv,.ou,ed on the new Poor-law Commission Bill, and the refore he at . move that the present vote be postponed till aft er that deb and that in the meantime Mr. Green report progress. B Sir G. GREY assured the Hon. Gentleman that that aa l d would not be read a second time for a considera ble p erie'' on he did not see what bearing these debates might hav e u r this vote. a wet t Captain PECHELL said that he per fectly ag ree what had fallen from the Member for Downshi re ; , it was were fectly preposterous to vote away this money u ntil hey aware how this board was to be reconstituted. Mr. PHILIP HOWARD said that it appeared frail o t _ h . e . general feelings of this House, that it would be better to p pine the vote to a future occasion. Mr. HUME concurred in the propriety of the su Sir G. GREY said that the present vote was taken w"" view to pay the expenses of the new establishment. The vote was then agreed to. regress, The House then resumed, the Chairman reported Progress and obtained leave to sit again. Leave was granted to sit again on Monday. PASSENGERS ACT AMENDMENT DI ggestionA On the motion for leave to go into Committee, , a Big Lord GEORGE BENTINCK called attention vo sato , of the same nature passed in the United.,hich He had to propose several amendments in this Mt , : o f them' conceived were calculated to improve it. The natu,' and were to improve the sea-worthiness of emigran t shlPs, general of all transport ships. The Bill was passed through Comiee. f i„, 3 and The Savings' Bank Annuity Bill m w asread a second ordered to be committed. The report of the Land Drain ag e Bill was broug ht nP a a the The other orders of the day were then disposed Ofp House adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock. RAILWAY SHARE 31ARKETS. BRISTOL, MAY 7. STOCK EXCHANGE.--The sales are-Great Western, V i a: ters, 4hs, 26-Ditto, New, 3 P• a nd land, New, 39 1 ,4-Ditto, New, 2 p.-Ditto, Birrninghall 51. A Gloucester (6 per cent.), 124-Newcastle and Ber w ,! --North Staffordshire, p.-South Devon (6 P e ' 7s. 6d. dis.-Taff Vale, 131-Ditto, New, 3s. 9 1 P* LIVERPOOL, MAY 7. an d Os; STOCK EXCIIANGE.-The sales are-Birrningb3ll-,,,t Lin: ford, 7 p.-East Lancashire, New (scrip), par-'n and colnshire, p.-Leeds and Thirsk, 5 dis.-10.ndsoch e ster North-Western, 171 1 4-Ditto, Fifths, 13 1 ,4 p. -1° , 13 „. r And and Birmingham, Quarters (B), 5 1 4 p.-- 31aneu v es it'i . o !, Leeds (late Huddersfield and Sheffield), 3/ 11-- Shares (late Extensions), 1 / 1 p.-Manchester, Shedieldaeat Lincolnshire, Quarters, No. 2, 211-Ditto Oa t° , n 00), Grimsby and Sheffield), Quarters, 2 dis. - Ditto , ditto lif o rd• 4 dis.-Midland, 115 1 / 2 -Ditto, New, 2 shire, 1 3 / 4 p.-North-Western, 38s. 9d. dis.-Shrewslf.aer4 O. Hereford, 335. 9d. dis.-South-Eastern and Dover, 2, 1 4 p.- Ditto, New,' No. 4, 1 , 4 dis.-Newry and " point, 2 dis.-East Indian, 1 / a dis. MANCHESTER, MAY 7. tiotting' STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are--Ambergate,, and p.-North Sta ana ham, and Boston, 1 5-16 dis. - Birkenhe a d, Lancashj Inc r.' Cheshire, 1 1 / 2 dis.-Eastern Counties, 18:-Ai-i' a % c hester shire, 1 1 /, c. p.-London and North-Western ( I %la n t r a nd and Birmingham), Quarters (A), 5% 1 3 . -Man n ell ; e t s o Leeds, 32/. Shares (late Extension), 5-16 p.--L'At-'c„ath (late West Riding Union), ampton, 30s. dis.-North Staffordshire, 3 ,4 ri•Pre,,, dig.. W} re, 5-16 p.-Manchester andlo'7 and - South-Eastern and Dover, No. 4, 3-16 dis. LEEDS, MAY 7. Halves (A), 3 11-16 p.-Shropshire GlliOn, 1/4 Notting' STocic EXCHANGE. -The sales are-Ambergate, ham, and Boston, 1 ii dis.-East Lancashire , Ne w ' O s ' Ditto, New Scrip, par-East and West Yorkshire, eds a nd -Huddersfield and Manchester, Thirds , parqeeds and Dewsbury, Extensions. Scrip (green), 20s. whir7a sk, 5 dis.-Ditto, New, 31/2 Ditto, pre _ ths 25. p.London, Brighton, and South Coast, Fifteen Chester p.-Talton and Driffield Junction, 12s. 6d. dia• - • - "' and Leeds, 32/. Shares (late Extensions), ss. 61-1 * P:5111(.1064 West Riding Union, 4s. p.-Manchest er, Buxton,. c , and Midland, 7s. 6d. dis.-Newcastl e and Berw l 345. p.-North British, 303/4 -Ditto, Quarters (I;te 6d. p•-• Branch), 16s. 3d. p.-Ditto, Extension (scrip), • dis. North Staffordshire, 345. p.-North - W estern, 365. c* SHEFFIELD, MAY 7. s hire, I% STOCK EXCHANGE . -The sales are-East Lincoin_z,. p.-Manchester, Buxton, Matlock, and Midland, gill asp Manchester and Leeds (West Riding Union)'rosby and Manchester Sheffield. and Lincolnshire (Great 6 0 Sheffield), B[. dis.-Ditto, 201. Shares, 31• dis. HULL, MAY 7. null and S Selby (10 TOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales ar per cent. guar.). 102-North British, e 69s Quarters, - • Extension (scrip), 7s. 9d. p.-Amberpte, Nottingham, Boston, 265.-Newcastle and Berwick, New, v7 B p.---" es Riding Union, 3s. p. GLASGOW, MAY 6. STOCK: EXCIIANG E.-The sales are-Caledonian Ditto, New, 335. 6d.-Clydesdale Junction, 421. P and --, Dir ect Madras, 2s. 9 . d.-Dundee and Northern Juri c. tion, 315.-Dundee and Perth, Quarters, 54.5.-East Lo thiall Central, 415.-Edinburgh and Glasgow, Halves, 9 2 1 A - " Ediri. burgh and Perth (New Co.), 41s. 6d.-Glasgow, Kihnsruoc°' , and Ayr, 118/. -Ditto, Halves, No. 1,83%-D i tto, Halves. N 2,6/. 3s. 6d.-Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle, 5/. Is''' . Glasgow Harbour Mineral, 345.-Manchester and South' ampton, 13s. 6d. -North British, Thirds, 505.-Scottis h Cen tral, 24/.-Slarnannan, 241.-Stirling and Dunfermline, 65°' RAILWAY RETURNS. Ran RAILWAY TRAFFIC.—The following are the Total Receipts 0- tn . mays for the past week—that is to say, up to the date to wilic h i e respective returns are made, together with the receipts of tae $ 4 .~ week iu the previous year:— Week ending Last week. 'sl' ,-, X • ad: e ym ~---- .6-.) cd. ~.... NAME OF RAILWAY. May 2 1 Apr. 30 May 4 Apr. 20 May 1 Apr. 25 May 1 Apr. 25 30 May 1 Apr. 30 May 1 Apr. 30 \l ay 1 2 Apr. 22 May 1 Amiens and Boulogne . • • • • •' ••' ••••••• Arbroath and Forfar • • •• •• Chester and Birkenhead. • • •• " • Dublin and Drogheda• • • • • • ' ''' Dublin and Kingstown • • • • • • • • Dundee and Arbroath. • • • • • • • • '• Edinburgh and Glasgow . • • • ,• • •• Eastern Counties and North Eastern. East Lancashire •• • • .... • • .• • • • • • • • • Eastern Uni0n................ • • • • • • Gl , a t s sg g o o w w , , a K n i d l ri G a i r .e n e o i c i o k e , ka.l.ld. AyrGl (lravesend and Rochester • • -• •• •- • • • • (treatt r ivt t e s Southerni eriB , fu c l Western Ipswich and 8ury................ • • • Lancaster and NorthasterandCa Weston, rlislc....i L London and Blackwall— .• .• .• „ London and Brighton „ London and South Western Manchester, Leeds, and Ilull Assoc.. Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Maryport and Carlisle Midland, Bristol, and Birmingham Newcastle and Car1i51e.............. Newcastle, Berwick, and North Shields Norfolk.... . ..... • ..... ...... • . • . • • North British .. . • • • • • Paris and Rouen .• •• •• Preston and Wyre— •• • • • • • • • • Rouen and Havre •••• • • • • • •• •• • • • Shrewsbury and Chester • • • • •• South Eastern and Branches • • • • • • • • South Devon . • • • • • • • • Tail . Vale Whitehaven Junction •• • • • • York and Newcastle . •••••• • • • • • • York and North Midland . •• ••• • •• 227 2,173 1,88 1 301 3,472 10,150 .773 53 6 2,259 1,1,31 1,311 19,199 440 1,343 43,075 943 6,815 7,210 7,927 2,054 553 19,061; 2,481 778 1,845 1,616 8,•l60 625 746 1,731 311 3,270 6,333 614 2,585 2, 024 -- r 19,27 J '6OO 7,298 1,153 1,470 G, 57 3 6, 651 i,11 6 62 3 -- 6, 354 4,601 '902 166 7,733 6,014 THE MAILS.—SO UT HAMPTON,6. — Th e ental Company's steam-ship Madrid, Captain Wee ks, arrisf_ed in dock last evening, at seven P.M., from Gibraltar, ~ landed the Peninsular and other mails, under charge off miralty-Agent, Lieutenant Smythe, R. N., which were_ a, warded to London by this morning's mail train. lier,_d_r, are—Gibraltar, April 25111; Cadiz, 26th ; Lisbon, Oporto, 30th; and Vigo, May Ist. The Madrid has ag 41.' cargo, consisting of oranges , dates, s p ecie, leeches, wine, The Tay, r West India packe t, is hourl y expected. Boz S LAST WORK.—it must be a matter of Stir o p p r to t e h x e pess public e d by the n g generallyperceive newspapers, how,arie withd r are es that e t to Mr. Dickens' s last publication. It may well be imagined c that some adverse criticisms upon the works of this and other celebrated authors may proceed from personal feelings or educational prejudices. These, however, could account for but a few. The majority, as we have the best medical au thority for stating, may be ascribed to irritability of temper , Generally arising from a deranged state of the liver and other viscera, and which could easily be remedied by the occasiona l use of Frampton's Pill of Health, which is gentle le its operation, and unfailing in its effect. THE NAVY CLun.—The members of the Na v Y Club dined together last evening at the Thatched Bout. Tavern, St. James's-street. Admiral Sykes presided, supd" ported by Rear-Admiral Sir Charles Napier, Lc % Edward Russell, Captain Montg o m or ie, the Hon. Captat Carnegie, M.P., Captain Percy Grace, &c. d Lieu - A letter from London states that the Lo°rl3edford. tenancy of Ireland had been offered to the Duke wa g w ag be- His Grace, it is added, had given no answer, b ut " the offer lieved in well-informed circles th a t it is not unli kel y will be accepted.— Dublin Paper. _ ' On the 7th inst., in Charles-s Lady treet, D a ' BIRTHS Irony, of a ion and heir. Alfred d tt v i e. Gabb, 4th Esq inst., a., fa d t o MonaaHugohutseer., Ch e ltenham, the wife of fre n TrOittnont,hEe ,icist.hofiansdt.a,u g in hte l : ° . On the sth inst., at Cambridge-terrace , Hyde-park. M rs ' rt l an d- p l ac e, the lady of Henri George Berkley, of a daughter. f .7 D. inst., On the 6th in Hyde-park-square , t he wife o • II On Esq., of a son. On the 7th inst., at Long Ditton, near Kingston -on' Thames, Mrs. William Devas, of a son. On the 7th inst., at Clapham-rise, Mrs. C. Leary, o f ti daughter. _..---------------- RI. On the 4th inst., at St. P MAR eter's ED Church, Pimlico, the 110; Jenny', Pratt, to Mary Louisa, fourth (laughter of the Lord Bishop of Rochester and Lady Sarah Murray. DIED. On the 3d inst., in Brighton, G. Wigney, Esq., a ged SS. On the 4th inst., at Pimlico, S. Tanslev, Esq., aged s w f s. oru , p On the sth inst., at the Circ us, Bath, Stewart Cra Esq., M.D. On the GUI inst., at Clapham-common, Ann i e , the 0111 i daughter of John Humphery, Esq., 111. P 11 2 . London: Printed and Published by MUEDO YOUNG, of IT•._ ct Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office, N 0.112, Strand, in the rrm.:, o f the SeveY. In the County of Illiddlesez, Sateichif• 1847, GRA T II Th e homeste, th e Lis Pa th e Doweri conducted, thousand Ita Y 8 . 184 The like 141v ing is I An Editi turd ay so t: r eceive it tI This Edii ""e held and Censor' Pers on tATell " e wa .ni 135. 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