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course of a year or two, build up a measure upon the experience which they would thus be enabled to gain. It appeared to him that this Bill was at variance with the object it professed to have in view. It was wished to stimuli's the owners and occupiers of land to embark their capital in the tivement of the agriculture of the country and the e ent of the people. It professed to encourage emigre , on, and yet its provisions were not of a nature calculated to make emigration a beneficial measure to the people, nor was it at all likely to improve or facilitate the collection of the poor -rates in Ireland. That such would be result of this rash experiment he was assured. It looked, in fact, more like the reckless proceedings of gamblers than the cool and sagacious resolutions of statesmen. It was exceedingly singular that, while their affairs were in a prosperous state, no measure of this kind was contemplated, but as soon as these affairs got into a state of confusion, then they forced this measure upon the House. He wculd give his decided opposition to the Bill. • Mr. F. FRENCH wished to call the attention of the Noble Lord at the head of the Government, and of the Right Hon. Baronet beside him, to certain communica tions which he had rec ived of the lamentable state of some of the districts in Ireland. He found that, in the workhouse of Castlecarey, the master, the matron, and the surgeon, had died of the workhouse fever which prevailed among its thousand inmates. He had now called the attention of the House to the state of things which existed, and he hoped some atten tion would be paid to it by the Right Hon. Baronet the Horns Secretary. MESSAGE FRO'el THE LORDS. Messengers from the Lords brought up several Bills, which were ordered to be laid on the table. Viscount JOCELYN wished to offer a few words. He believed that it was one of the most important mea sures ever introduced, and one which he could not look upon without some degree of appre hension. Ile wished that the amendments and al terations which had been made might be the means of making it operate without danger to Ireland; still he thought it would have been wiser if the Government had introduced a temporary measure to meet the evils, instead of bringing in a measure of a permanent character, during a time of excitement like the present. He was at a less to understand how they were to come to any conclusion as to what might be the effect of the calamity upon the people.—(Hear, hear.) He felt that this measure had not so Lair a consideration as so grave a question demanded. He did feel that they were legislating permanently for what might be only a temporary calamity. No Minister ought to pass a measure inflicting the right of out door relief without being at the same time pre pared to show that there could be a test im posed to prevent the abuse of the right. They might be told that the poor. law test might be applied, but that would be bsinging them back to a pauper workhouse test, which had inflicted so many grievances already. In this change about to be effected there would be a great increase of pauperism. He hoped that in 1847, when the law was under re consideration, the evils which had hitherto attended its operation would be remedied. He recollected that an Hon. Member, on a former occasion, urged it upon the Government to carry through a poor-law measure purl pa.esu with the measure of the temporary relief. Now, he was of opinion that the far-sighted people of this island could not be better employed than in bringing out the capabilities .of Ireland. He would not now enter list° the question whether all kinds of property ought to be subject to a rate. _ He wished to inapreas upon the Government the neces sity of calling upon mortgagees, annuitants, and others, to contribute their f* share towards thesupport of the people, as proposed by this Bill. No doubt many . of the proprietors of land, if they had imagined that such a burden as this would be imposed upon them would not have entered into arrange ments with others, for the purpose of raising money upon their property; but that was no reason why the land should not contribute to the support of the poor. He considered that no able-bodied labourer, who sunk into distress, should be denied out-door relief, because temporary aid might enable him to get work again in a short period. He sincerely thanked the Noble Lord for the spirit in which he had brought forward his measures with respect to Ireland. At no time hie] Ireland offered se ample a field for the labours of a courageous Minister, and he trusted that this measure, in conjunction with others, would redound mate rially to the advantage of that unhappy country. He said that the present moment was one to introduce a most efficient system of legislation for Ireland. There were many Gentlemen who thought badly of the landlords of Ireland; he was not there to defend that class; but if they would consult the report of the Commission, they would find it stated that many of the charges against the landlords of Ireland were exaggerated. However hateful the landlords of Ireland might be to this country, it was through them that they must assist the suffering people of that country. The landlords only were in a position to give out to the poor people that essistacce which this country wished to extend to them ; and, therefore, it should be the aim of the Legislature to put them in such a position that their good qualities could be exercised while their bad ones could not be brought into play. Much had been said of the evils of the union of Ireland to this country, and many stated that that stneion would be fatal to Ireland. Such a statement was incorrect. but he thought that if the union was fatal to the one country it would be fatal to the other ; for England relied greatly for her prosperity on the well being of Ireland. Mr. TRELAWNY said, that as emigration was paid for out of the coffers of the State, it was only another mode of out-door relief. He would be against a poor-law, were he not assured that the wandering paupers did much more injury to property than any poor-law could effect. He wanted to know whether there was any intention to tax personal pro perty for the relief of the poor of Ireland. As yet no intimation to that effect had been given ; but he trusted it would be done in the course of the present debate. He agreed in the main with the Bill, as he thought it sound and just in the whole, and therefore he would not oppose it. Sir W. JAMES wished to offer a few words on the measure under the consideration of the Houle. He had hoped that a system of emigration would have been in troduced, but the statement of the Noble Lord at the head of the Government had done much to damp their expectations in that respect. Now one word regarding the measure before the House. He agreed in the main with the excellent observations of the Noble Lord, the Member for Lynn, that it was a measure which was imperatively required, but they ought to beware that the evils pointed out by the excellent Prelate the Arch bishop of Dublin, in the other House, did not arise.— (Cries of " Order, order.") He thought that this mea sure ought to be accompanied with another measure, giving some relief to land, from the great pressure to which it was subject. Mr. P. SCROPE said he regretted the many altera tions which had been made in the Bill during its course through the House ; alterations which had been hailed by the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn ; all of them concessions in favour of the landlords of Ireland. One of these concessions was an alteration in the second clause, limiting the authorising of out-door relief only in case the workhouse was full. Another concession was the immense increase of es-officio members of the board of guardians. Applicants would, before they can receive re lief, be obliged to give u p th e i r f arms, and that operating on 300,000 or 400,000 individuals, would have a most disastrous effect. There was another proposal of a most infamous kind which would have the effect, he believed, of throwing the whole of the rates upon the tenants, and the Bill would in consequence, it was asserted, become practically inoperative, and therefore ought to be re jected by the House. Then there was the clause with respect to the leases, which would again have the effect of throwing the whole of the weight—an unknown weight—upon the tenant, which would be excessively oppressive at a future period. Something had been al leged in a pamphlet published by the Archbishop of Dublin, which went entirely upon an assumption, for there was not the slightest ground of proof to support the alle gations to which the conclusions of the author led. The author of this pamphlet asserted, that in the first flaw a poor-law never could be levied upon Ireland; and if it were levied it would, secondly, be so burdensome as to be a greater evil than a benefit, so that it could never be carried into effect; and, thirdly, even if it were to be carried into effect as its directors desired, the result would be a destruction altogether of the poorer classes. But this was all assumption, and the assertion that there could be no relief to the able-bodied poor; for, if it were afforded it would altegether destroy the rents of the lands, was equally groundless. For his own part, he believed that the imposition of a sound poor-law would be influential in improving the rental of Ireland. The Noble Lord the Member for Lynn (Lord G. Bentinck) bad asserted that the rental of Ireland was upwards of 17,000,0001., and other authorities, among whom Mr. Senior, had estimated it at 13,000,0001., while others again had stated that it was no more than 8,000,0001 Between these several accounts there was a sufficient margin, and take it as they would the rental constituted a tolerably extensive fund, and one which would not be easily exhausted. At any rate, it would be sufficient for the present, and there would be sufficient to give an opportunity for bringing the poor-law into effective action. Then there was a third allegation, that the imposition of such a law would demoralise the Irish peasantry. But w h at groun d was . there for this asser tion? he Iri s h peasant had invariably shown himself trustworthy, wh erever his energies could be brought into play, and where his tr a a o th was relied upon; and although at had been said tha t an of Irishman would never work so long as he had a lo af b r e ad ed left, and that they were not in any way to be trust ed , however, had never been shown to be the case, whersuecoP;dilhraen had been left nature ; and when to the impulses of their own the fisher_ the benevolent Mr. Foster had gone who were in urgent distress,ainong men, lent them money, they had invariably b and h a d to go out, and had done so with considerabl e success. and had brought in such a quantity of fish as had p ro. duced 800 per cent. on the money which had, been lent to them, end which had honourably been repaid. It w ag therefore evident that the Irish people were always ready to avail themselves daisy advantage that could be thrown in their way, and had evinced the utmost readiness to exert themselves to procure a subsistence for themselves and their families ; is all cases where they had been put to task work, no men had excelled them in the results which had arisen from their labeurs. In England they bad always shown themselves ready to undertake work which English labourers wculd not touch. Such was the case in America, and in the latter country the poor expatriated Irish had absolutely made up a fund of 200,000/. for the relief of their distressed fellow-country urc m op• 4,p) would conclude with rea di ng a l etter ' 'Doyle, written in the year 1831, which rse?ese — 0003481 that if some sufficient provision was not that* for the poor, that the whole foundation Of ioeiet iwould be broken up. That prophecy had nearly come to pass. But it bad been alleged that this Bill had, en too suddenly and too frankly introduced , lad It wit seerted thtl it oughtto have bees introduced - _ IN, .1 s THE SIT.N, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENT cT, APRI:1:" 17, 1847. / twenty years ago. It was his (Mr. P. Scrope's) belief, that it ought to have been introduced a hundred years ago. A poor-law for Ireland was no new measure, for in 1640 a Bill had been passed for that country which was nearly altogether the counterpart of the Act of Elisabeth, but it had never been carried out in conse quence of the opposition of the landowners, and he sin cerely trusted that the Government would now remedy the defect. on. t E h a a r v u e n e r t s b e e n l w a t but bu t that if this law were passed, b fo e r C c t o u h l u e o l n d o e b u l s u e V t r v E b a e ß t l i p N o n u E s b ß s o e f r w t v h i o n e u g l H d , and he had no doubt whatever but that it would pass that House, that it would prove either altogether ineffective, or that the union be tween the two countries would continue no longer. It was true Ireland had occupied a good deal of the attention of Parliament of late, but that circumstance was not to be wondered at when they considered the state of the sister kingdom, and the magnitude of the measures which had been propounded for her relief. The outcry the people of this: country had raised against the landlords of Ireland was most unjust and most undeserving , and he was surpr i sed to see that the House of late had evinced a disposition to join in it. The landlords were the true friends of Ireland; and instead of introducing measures calculated to harrass them, Government ought to do all in their power to assist theta. In many respects the measure before the House pressed most unjustly upon the landholdera of Ireland, and he very much feared that it would eventually 1 lead to the repeal of the union. Sir E. COLEBROOKE said, perhaps he might be allowed to say a few words in justification of the i vote he had given in opposition to the Government on I this question. He felt convinced that if the first clause of this Bill could be successfully carried out, it would tend to advance the happiness of a large portion of the Irish people. He had no personal knowledge of Ireland, and all he knew of that country in connexion with this question was gleaned from documents and returns which had been laid before the House ; and the result of his examination of these returns and documents had led hire to think that this law could never be carried out in Ire land. He felt convinced that out-door relief could not work successfully, because in Ireland there were not the same resources and machinery for carrying out such a system as was to be found in this country. So far from out-door relief tending to benefit the really poor and destitute man in Ireland, it would rather tend to increase the evils and sufferings that were now going on in Ireland. Looking, then, at the almost improbability at least for a short time, of carrying out this law in Ire land, and believing that at the present moment, and under existing circumstances, it was calculated to in crease the distress and sufferings of Ireland, he felt re luctantly constrained to oppose the Government on that occasion. Mr. ADDERLEY said the whole rating system of Ireland was looked upon almost as a farce. The rates in arrear bore a very large proportion to the total assess ment, and it was high time that something was done to remove this painful state of things; whether this Bill would attain that object he would not, venture to say, but if it were carried he felt convinced that it would never be successfully carried into effect. Mr. C. P. VILLIERS said the Bill was considered by the people of this country to be the only remedy for the evils of Ireland, and he thought great credit was due to her Majesty's Government for having persevered with it. It was a well-known fact that one-third of the copulation of Ireland were always iu a state of starvation, and when they remembered that the population was on an increase without any prospect of an increase in the supply or pro duction of food, no time ought to be lost to provide for such another visitation as the one the country was now suffering under. That provision, then, he thought was made by the Bill, because it held out the principle that the land should always be responsible for the support of the poor. This measure would now announce to the people of Ireland that there was no further necessity for crime and mendicity in that country. The condition of the peasantry of Ireland was, that they endeavoured by bidding high rents for lands to endeavourlo ward off a state of destitution ; and the consequence was non pay ments of rents, and all the outrages attending and fol lowing the exercise of the rights of property. This measure would now tell the people of that country that they need not starve. The House had last session thrown out a coercion Bill, introduced by the late Go vernment, because they believed that that measure did not go to the root of the evil ; and it was, therefore, the duty of this House to adopt other and milder mea sures than had yet been resorted to by the Government of this country. He thought the present measure was one well calculated to promote the same end as was sought by the measure of last session. via., the protection of life and property. A great ob jection had been made to the establishment of a system of out door relief in Ireland. Why, did not a system of out-door relief already exist in that country ? What did that large amount of mendicity mean if it did not mean a system of out door relief ? What was the wide spread evil of retaining possession of land without pay ing rent for the same, but another system of out-door relief ? The present measure proposed only to legalise that which was now obtained by fraud and terror, by upwards of 2,000,000 of vagrants, and place restrictions and a check upon that demoralising system. He thought that when the measure was passed, all parties in Ireland would feel it to be their bounden duty and interest to put their shoulders to the task, and endeavour to rave themselves and their country from the ruin which would oth -rwise overwhelm them. But it was said that the people of Ireland were indolent and imprudent ; it surely then was not the duty of this country to find industry and provident habits for the people? By this measure, however, the House would say the people must not starve, and the rich, and the landlords of the country must do their utmost to train them in habits of industry. From the passing of this measure, it was his firm opinion, would be dated a new and successful era in the history of that country. The measure was imperatively called for, and the people must be relieved from the fear of starvation. The measure was also one of justice to the people of this country, who were called upon to make great sacrifices in order to meet the present distress of Ireland.— (Hear, hear.) Mr. MORGAN J. O'CONNELL thought that a system of well regulated emigration, or industrial em ployment of the people of the country, would be attended with great success, and form valuable adjuncts to this measure. This Bill had been exposed to great danger by the clause which had been proposed by the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn, and which was only de feated by a very small majority, and if rumour were true, there were - strong reasons for supposing that a vigorous effort would be made in another place in favour of the insertion of that clause. The object of that clause was to throw the burden of the poor's rates upon the tenant, and the argu ments were founded upon the specious plea of assimilat ing the poor law of the two countries. It was, however, one thing to legislate fon the two countries upon the same principles, but it was quite another thing to make details of legislation the same in both countries; and he, as an Irish Member, bogged to say that be was heartily glad that the good sense of the House had led it to re- Sect the obnoxious clause. Although he was not one to join in animadversions on Irish landlords, yet he must say that there was some truth mixed up in the false alle gations made against them. He believed that at all events they tobka very short-sighted view of their own interests. The curse of Ireland was the want of a com mercial spirit among the people. They did not look upon the relations of landlord and tenant in a proper light— namely, as a gain for each. They took a contrary view. They believed what was the landlord's gain was their loss. Sir J. WALSH said he would remind the House that the present measure was of a totally different character to that which ever came before the House. When they I were about to institute such an extensive system of out door relief, they were bound to see that the proper checks were placed in order to guard against the abuses which otherwise would arise. It was, then, in conse quence of the extension of the principle o f out-door relief that those with whom he acted felt themselves bound to take the course they did. The apathy with which this question of such transcendant importance was attended to was a curious illustration of the state of parties in the House. All the great political economists were against a system of out-door relief. An HON. DIENBEn—No, no ; Mr. Macculloch is in favour of it. Sir J. WALSH was not aware of the fact, but all the others held the opinion which he had stated, and among others the present Archbishop of Dublin. The present Bill, in its leading provisions, introduced the English poor-law into Ireland. There - were some differences to be sure, but its main features were the same as the law which had been in operation for the last thirty years in England. Now, were they able to come before the Irish people, and say we recommend you a law which had been found without fault or blem ish ? Why, what was the fact ? Why, they found some of the bitterest opponent& of the mea sure were in favour of its being enacted in Ireland. The present was a moment which he considered far too dan- gerous to introduce such a tremendous change as must follow the enactment of this law. The whole history of the Irish people was of one who had the mere neces saries of life, and who were contented to go on in creasing and multiplying without an endeavour to ob tain anything better, and that when that "„necessary" failed, the whole population were thrown into destitution. It was the greatest mistake in the world to suppose that this poor-law would compel landlords—quasi landlords —to find employment for those who at present they had no inducement to employ, as the cultivation of the land was iu the majority of cases in the hands of the occupiers, and the greater proportion of the labour would continue to be employed by them. It was absurd to imagine that landlords would put occu piers in their land, and provide crops and labourers for them. The public mind ought, therefore, to be disabused of this notion. After all he had heard, he confessed that his opinions as to the impolicy of the measure remained unchanged. Out-door relief would entail far too great expel se upon the land. It would be It certainly so great that the proprietors of land would he oler whelmed. N trusted that l andlords, an :3', more, it would destroy the existing v lt o _p u re D di s c a te id d o would d t unlikely those for all time to come. that had be not effect much good. But he sin cerelyit would not aecomplish all the mis chief Mr . S. CRAW it f i w t ; s a misrepresentation of the Bill to say, that it s o door relief to t h e able-bodied object was to a ff or d out only to be afforded w h en the — wo rk as out-door relief was 1 to hold them. Out-do or relief was o ne were too full of the measure, and by n o means itsne of the ex cept i ons the Hon. Baronet who had ju s t ad Ceusesred object. If House would refer to the blue books containing evidence the state of Ireland , he would find that the p resent c ondition of Ireland was caused by the" lastid_ lords whom he had stood up to defend. and instead of preventing the sub-division of the land, they had from time to time done all in their power to promote it ; and it had been let and under-let, until the real occupation coukl not pfibrd to pay the rent which was exacted ; and the people had been reduced to a subsistence upon the potato. The present landlords of Ireland were respensible for the acts of their predeces sors, and they could not expect to escape. All the property he had in the world was in land in Ireland, so that he could net be accused of partiality ; and he was content to make his land responsible for the support of the p.or when they required parochial aid. He believed, however, that the Bill would stimulate land lords to find employmeet for the people, and that far less pauperism would exist than some Hon. Members seemed to anticipate. He. however, objected to two of the clauses of the 11111, first, the increase in the number of ex-officio guardians. because they would interfere with, and necessarily influet ce the conduct of, those better fitted, by application, to disehsrge the duties of the office; and, next, to the extreme limitation of out-door relief in cases of extreme diattess, so that a person who rented a quarter of an acre could not receive aid, even in the utmost urgency, unless he relinquished it and came into the workheuse with his family if there was room for him—when perhaps a little aid might enable him to retain his land, and prevent him from seeking aid for the future; but, as a whole, he entirely concurred in the measure, and believed sincerely that it would redound to the advantage of Ireland. Sir GEORGE GREY wished to offer a few observa tions to the House now that the Bill had reached its last stage. It was a source of great gratification to him that the question had not been made one of party—(Hear) —and that they had all entered into its discussion with the sole object of promoting by the best means the prosperity of Ireland.—(Llear, hear.) The Hon. Baronet (Sir J. Walsh) had alluded to the small number of Members who were present, but he (Sir G. Grey) attributed this to an anxiety on the part of those not present, to have the Bill passed, without any further delay, into a law, and to the ample dis cussions which had taken place in full houses on the whole of its provisions. And in its last stage in that House, it gave him great pleasure to bear his testimony to the temperate spirit in which it had been discussed, even by those who were wholly opposed to it. The general favour with which the Bill had been received, and the way the opposition had been conducted, rendered it unnecessary for him to enter at any length into a de fence of it. He entirely concurred in the sentiments expressed by the Honourable Gentleman, the Member for Wolverhampton (Mr. C. Villiers)—(Hear, hear) —and the Noble Lord, the Member for Lynn and the Hon. Baronet did not object to the principle of the Bill ; they simply had some apprehension as to the effect of the measure, in which he confessed he partici pated, owing to the difficulty which all social measures had had to encounter in Ireland. But he anticipated the best results from it, and that it would have a con trary effect to that which those who opposed it seemed to anticipate. Some said that this was not the time in which a measure of the kind could be most effectively carried our. If they expected that the present state of things in Ireland would soon pass away, they would have been wrong in passing the measure as a permanent one ; but when he considered the failure of the potato crop, and the cermanent condition of Ireland—when they had thus pressed upon them the real condition of Ire land, the absolute necessity for such a measure as this became more than ever manifest.—(Hear, hear.) He thought, therefore, that ,they were called upon to provide —not simply a temporary measure, like the Bill for the Relief of the Destitute Poor—but a permanent measure, which had for its object the permanent improvement of the people of that country, and to prevent, as far as practicable, a recurrence of those periods of extreme distress, which had swept away thousands by the disease which it had engendered. The Hon. Gentleman said that out-door relief would prove injurious in Ireland. They should consider the relative position of that coun try and England, and that a few hours' sail, and for a few pence, the poor of that country could come here and obtain that out-door relief which was denied them in their own country.—(llear, hear.) He was in the habit of receiving from Liverpool and from parts of South Wales every day representations complain ing of the hardships to which the ratepayers of those places were subject in ci.nsequence of the continual arrival of large numbers of destitute Irish for whom no provision had been made. 90,000 had come over to Liverpool within the last few months, 30,000 had emigrated to America, and 60,000 remained to be sup ported out of the rates. From South Wales similar complaints had been sec: ived, and therefore he thought that under the circumstanc'-s less could not have been done in justice to the people of this country, and in justice to the people of Ireland, than the passing of such a measure as this.—(Hear, hear.) But some Hon. Gen tleman enquired how out-door relief would provide employment for the people. True, out-door relief alone would not afford employment, but he had great hope that the Bill would create a stimulus for employ ment as the proprietors of land and others would rather provide employment for the poor than pay high poor's rates to keep them in indolence. The proprietors of land would not, during the operation of the Bill, be content to sit down in apathy to watch the course of events, as they would be roused to make vigorous exertions to provide employ ment for those who stood in need of it. Even the dis cussions which had taken place had tended in that direc tion. The Hon. Gentleman the Member for Wolver hampton, had alluded to an address agreed to in Wexford by a considerable number of influential persons, calling upon those who had it in their power, to promote em ployment, emigration, fisheries, draining of land, &c., in order to place the people out of a position to need relief as paupers. The address was well worthy the attention of the House—(Hear, hear)—and he trusted it would re ceive a hearty response, in other parts of the country. If they acted in the spirit pointed out in the address, the gloomy anticipations which some entertained with respect to the Bill would not be realised. It was in the exertions of all classes in Ireland for one common purpose—the regeneration of their country—aided by the measures which the Govern ment had brought forward and intended to propose for the purpose of developing the resources of the country, and to provide employment for the people, that they must mainly depend for the promotion of that state of things in Ireland which they all wished so ardently to see. In conclusion, he trusted that the measures intro duced by her Majesty's Government would have the effect of laying the foundation of a better social system— would insure that co-operation and mutual support which was so necessery in carrying out the great work of ame lieration—vrould be the harbinger of the dawn of a brighter day for Ireland—and would put an end to the lamentable scenes which were at present to be witnessed in that unhappy country. With that hope he trusted that the Bill would soon become the law of the land, and that it would be carried out in the same spirit which in fluenced those who introduced it. Lord GEORGE BENTINCK thought it right to no tice the asserion that had been made by the Hon. Mem ber for Kerry. In perfect good humour he was bound to say, that the clause he proposed to introduce into the Bill when it was in Committee had taken the House by surprise. Now such a statement was not in accordance with the facts of the case, for he intimated his intention of proposing the clause on the 1 Ith of March, and it was published three times successively in the daily papers of London, and did not come on for discussion till the 29th of March. This Icing the case, he denied that ha could be justly charged, as he had been in Ire land, with a felonious intention of imposing upon the cccupiers of Ir.-lana, in a stealthy manner, any burden they were not entitled to bear. There could be nothing more unjust than to say that he wished to exempt the landlords of Ireland from their responsibilities. He was not connected either in a close or a distant manner with the land of Ireland, and he did not believe that this clause would have the effect of im posing upon the occupiers any improper liability. The second clause, which he proposed, with regard to the landlords of the 51. tenements, which amounted to 76,029 in Ireland, makikig it imperative on them to pay the poor rates on that property, ought, he thought, to have freed him from such a charge. He thought it un just, therefore, that the charge of feloniously attempt ing to impose an undue burden on the occupiers of the land of Ireland, or one which it was not right and proper for them to bear, should be made against him ; and he merely rose to disclaim such an intention, and to state that, whether he had been right or wrong in the views he had entertained, he was in fluenced throughout all these discussions by the best feelings to promote, to the utmost of his judgment, the good of the people of Ireland. Mr. LABOUCHERE thought that the Noble Lord had fully cleared himself of the imputation which had been made against him with regard to the clauses re ferred to. He happened to be in Ireland since the Bill . . was last under discussion, and there could be no doubt bu the clause had created considerable apprehension. He had no doubt that, if it had been carried, the difficul ties of her Majesty's Government would have been greatly increased, and it would be impossible to carry the Bill into effect. As the Bill had been just now so ably and so fully treated by his Right Hon. Friend (the Home Secretary). He would not take up their time at greater length at present, but sincerely hoped that the anticipation which that Right Hon. Gentleman expressed, would be realized, and that it would lay the foundation of a better state of things for that country. Mr. GOULBURN was of opinion that the Bill would depend very much, for its successful operation, on the way in which boards of guardians administered it ; a n d the Government should take special care that every facility should be extended to those bodies to smooth the difficulties with which the measure was surrounded, With regard to the clause proposed by the Noble Lord (Bentinek) he thought it would have the effect of imposing a check upon the undue administration of relief. It was with that view that he supported it, and he had no* vet heard anything to shake that opinion. He thought that from the moment the law passed, the Government should be prepared to carry it into operation in all its details, and to resist the improper claims which would be advanced by many for relief. It was the fashion to attack the Irish landlords in that House, bur if they themselves were assailed by crowds of people sufferice from famine, they might form some idea of the difficuoies to which the lauded gentry of Ireland were subject d. If the Government would not take care that the law was enforced in a proper manner, it would be found that instead of affording relief, it would only exaggerate the miseries of the people. He was, there fore, of opinion that the boards of guardians should be protected from imposition, and that the difficulties with which the operation of the Bill would be accompanied, should be as far as possible' removed. Lord JOHN RUSSELL agreed with nearly all that had been said by the Right Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down. He agreed with him, that the Govern ment should protect the boards of guardians, not only in granting relief, but also in refusing it to those who consideration might not be proper objects for receiving it.— (Hear, h ear .) H e regrette d , h owever, to see t h at f many of th ose w h o addressed themselves to the of this subket, seemed, from the views th ey expressed, and tl4e ti n ie tt l u in r e e of f thearg ulamwenauttobgeeythfoorl: It had been fol lowed t o rnisunderstan l representedby acme, and in the speech of the Archbishop of Dublin it had been represented, that the labouring poor of Ireland had no choice but to ac cept such wages as the farmers chose to give them, or to apply to the boards of guardians and demand relief from them. Now every one knew that that was not the way in which the poor law would be administered in Ireland. If the labourer was in a position to procure wages from the farmer, he lost all claim to relief from the board of guardians. He could not come to them and say, "It is true; I have been offered work, but I prefer idleness; it is true that I can get a subsistence with work, but I prefer a scanty subsistence with idleness." With regard to what the Hon. Member for Rochdale had said, namely, that this law should be guarded by very stringent prorreous, he thought it was so when they said that there should be no relief to the sble bodied labourer, except in the workhouse when there was room, and if there was not roam in the workhouse, an application should be made to the Poor-law Coinnsis sioners, who should give an order for a limited time, and during that time the able-bodied labourer should be supported by food. He did say that they had taken very strong precautions against those abuses, from which they knew every poor-law was in some degree in separable. lie entirely agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman who had last spoken that in the adxnini,tra don of this law it should be rigidly enforced, and that those who acted fairly and honestly in the administra tion of the law had a right to the fullest suppsrt on the part of the Government. There were likewise ques tions as to the support of those persons who, in the ad ministration of this law, misht resort to intimidation, and who might become obnoxious to, and threatened by, those who would wish a more lax and improvident system. lie entirely agreed that without that support they could not expect a man to be firm in the administration of the law, if his life and person were not properly protected by the executive Government.—(Hear, hear.) He could easily admit that it would not be fair to say of a man that he bad deserted his duty by giving improvident relief, and thus abusing the law, unless they gave him some security that in doing that duty he would be supported. He did not agree with the Right Hon. Gentleman, or the Noble Lord, whose proposal formed a leading subject of dis cussion on the third reading of the Bill—that the clause then proposed by him did not impose an additional burden on the country. He could not think that the case of Ireland was exactly similar (as the Noble Lord supposed it to be) to the case of England. The Noble Lord admitted that any additional burden —any new county rate which might be imposed on tenants would, from the beginning of the year 1849, to any person about to enter upon the occupation of a farm, be a sub ject of contract with the landlord, and that the tenant would calculate what was to bo the burden he would have to pay and regulate his terms so that the burden and the rent would not be disproportinato to the produce of his farm. Tee Noble Lord said that the landlord and the tenant would agree together upon the terms as to what portion of the burden would fall upon the land lord and what portion would fall upon the tenant, and he did not think it probable that the whole burden would fall upon the landlord by the diminution of rent. He (Lord J. Russell) could not see, considering what was the state of society in Ireland, that such would be the case. His opinion was that although it was a greet alleviation of these clauses that they would not come into operation with regard to such tenants till the year 1849, still his (Lord J. Rtl3- seli's) opinion was that the operation of these clauses would be in a reduction from the rent, which would be enforced as against the landlord. I❑ the great desire to hold land—he would not say what might be the tastes and habits of the people 50 years hence, but only what had been the taste hitherto—they had a strung convic tion that in holding land, they held the means of living. The tenant would most probably find himself obliged to pay an additional rent, equal toone-half of the rate—that would be an additional burden upon him, and it would not be merely an injury, for it would act as an iuducement to him to look more cautiously after the ad ministration of the law. When the Right Ho❑ Gentle. man called on the Government fairly to support those who had the administration of the law, he thought that the executive Government, on the other hand, might fairly express a hope that Parliament would not make the collection of the poor-rate more difficult, and that they would not make the poor. law—always a matter of difficulty—liable to greater ones in the administration of it, and in the collection of the rate. He had so far de livered his opinion to the House, and he would not detain them any further than to say, that after the debate they had bad in that House, after many gentlemen who had resided in Ireland had had an opportunity of giving an opinion, that the Bill was to be considered as passed by general consent, and that no further opposition would be given to a measure so necessary to the welfare of Ireland. Mr. DISRAELI said that if he did not misapprehend the Noble Lord, he understood him to say that the ar gument used by the Noble Lord might be good with re spect to Irelan I, but not with regard to England. Lord J. RUSSELL begged pardon. He said that it was a very good argument as applied to England, but not as applied to Ireland. Mr. DISRAELI said that he had misapprehended the Noble Lord, in company with all those who sat round him. He was very glad that he bad given the Noble Lord the opportunity of correcting that misap prehension. He understood him to say now, that the view of his Noble Friend the Member for Lynn would be good as applied to England, but that with regard to Ireland there was a difference which rendered it no thing. He thought that he would not for a moment contend—no man would have sufficient confidence in himself to contend, that there-was not a great difference between the states of England and Ireland • but the Secretary of State had already confessed to the House that he himself supported the Bill without any very great confidence in its producing the effect which they all desired. The Secretary of State voted for the Bill, and yet his apprehension of the whole question was that it was a great experiment ; and if it were a great expe riment, was it at all unreasonable in the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn, reasoning from such facts as political experience authorised, should propose a measure more certain in its effects. If the Noble Lord did argue upon:the position of affairs in England, in making that proposition, was it sufficient that tt:e Noble Lord the First Minister should rise and say that there was a difference between the state of Ireland and the state of England (which no one disputed) and that therefore he must not refer to the instance of England. It was the best instance they had got, and though imperfect, it was the only in stance to which they could refer under the circum stances. Her Majesty's Ministers themselves admitted that they were offering a remedial measure to the House, in which they had not implicit confidence. It was, therefore, clearly not only justifiable, but extremely ne cessary that, in discussing any public measure, they should refer to any past example they could adduce for their guidance. The measure of the Noble Lord had been spoken of harshly in that House, and with some degree of contumely by the Hon. Member for Kerry, and certainly in terms of disrespect and dislike. The Hon. Member had no doubt received from his consti• tuents since the discussion on the first night some in structions upon the subject. The opposition to these measures had been shown in a spirit of moderation and modesty when they were firet brought forward, but it appeared that a very different tone of feeling now ex isted, as shown in the debate of that evening. His Noble Friend had deprecated the legislative experiment of the Government, and had brought forward a clause—a re solution of a much more certain nature which would remove the burden from the smaller tenants, and at the same time offered a stimulus to the superior ones, which would make all classes com bine together to carry the law into operation. The Government proposed that no man whose tenure was under 4/. per annum, should be rated for the main tenance of the poor. The Noble Lord had proposed that the lowest tenure to be rated, should be any one under 5/. The measure which was proposed by the Noble Lord the Member for Lynn would have been beneficent in its nature to the people of Ireland, and was at least as much entitled to a trial as the experimental legislation of her Majesty's Government. He thought that nothing could bring political economy into greater discredit than the uncertainty of the present legislation, which was not of a fixed character, instead of having a Government who would not swerve from their course of the utility of which they were convinced, and which they were deter mined to pursue.—(Hear, hear.) Sir G. GREY wished to say one word in explanation. The Hon. Member had referred to some expression of his, which he considered to imply a want of confidence in the measure before the House. He did not intend to express any doubt whatever as to its beneficial result to the people of Ireland. Mr. WILLIAM FITZMAURICE then rose, but for some time was inaudible in the gallery. He had endeavoured to give the Government every sup port in his power as far as the present measure was con cerned, still he thoeght it was not as perfect as it ought to be. Now the amendment he would propose would be to place in connexion with every union in Ireland, farms of 100 acres each, in order to carry forward industrial arrangement; also that the unions should be increased to the extent of 200. The effect of this system would be, that landlords would be obliged to employ the peo ple at remunerating wages; else they would seek em ployment on the union farms. The system, if agreed to. he believed would be a self-supporting system. A great deal had been said during the pro gress of this debate ab ait the drainage of lands in Ireland, but on that he cautioned the House as to how they proceeded, as the attempts of this kind hi therto made had failed. Attacks had been made by some Hon. Members in that House on his brother, as to the treatment of those employed on his property in Ireland, but in answer to that he would inform the House that instructions had been given to his agents to attend to every matter connected with his tenants, and the result was, that not one person on the property had ap plied for employment on the public'works.—(llear.) This brought him to the question of absenteeism. Now the real cause of this was the want of security to life and property in Ireland, and the indolence of the pea santry. His grandfather had sunk 200,0001. in the linen trade, and failed, because of the bad habits of the people. Al the present moment his own brother's life was threatened if he set his foot in Ireland. It was such proceedings as these that occasioned absenteeism, and caused th e l an d e d proprietors of that country to live elsewh ere. Th e H on . M e mber here read extracts from the criminal returns of ;he county of Tipperary, to show the dreadful state of things which prevailed there. That the House might be aware of w hat an a gg ravated assault was, h e might tell them that some men broke into a house in Jamestown, a nd they took a woman, placed her on a tu b, f astene d a rope round her neck, then attached it to beam, kicked the tub away and left the woman suspended for five minutes, then cut her down and placed her on the fire. And what did the House think was the sum taken away ? A shilling and two pence and a ring ; and for this paltry matter this in human barbarity had been committed. And could they expect that proprietors would live in a country where such atrocities were of every day occurrence. Within a few miles of Nenagh, and close to his brother's pro perty, a gentleman--a magistrate—requested some of his labourers to go from one field to another ; they re fused, he sent his steward to remonstrate, and the re sult was that they broke the steward's skull and de manded his dismissal, threatening that if their demand was net acceded to they would murder himself in the morning. Then, with respect to the fisheries in Ire land ; these might be rendered very productive, but no capitalist would embark his capital in the promotion of them. He (Captain Fitzmaurice) had spoken to a per son who fished an extensive portion of the west coast of England, and asked him why he did not try the west of Ireland. That person replied that be had done so, but that his boats and nets had been cut 6drift the first night. If the Government gave security to life znd property in Ireland, they would find persons to reside in the country, but until that were done, the miseries of that country would not be in any degree alleviated. The secret of Ireland's success, was to be found in one mony syllable—the spade—and only by encouraging the culti vation of the soil, and inducing proprietors to reside upon their estates, could they add to the prosperity of Ireland. Sir G. GREY then proposed the following amend ments, which were agreed to : In clause 2, line 14, after the word the," insert " Workhouse or ;" same lice, after the word " Union," insert "as the case may be." Line 15, after the word "disease," insert "is or." Clause 9, line 36, after the word " next," insert the words " after the passing of this Act." Clause 11, line 36, leave out the words "chargeable to," and after the word " expenses," insert " incurred for the relief of the poor." At the end of clause 13, insert the following proviso : "Provided always, and be it enacted, that all expenses incurred in aid of the emigration of any occupier and his family, under the provisions of this Act, shall be charged to the electoral division to which such occupier and his family would have been chargeable, if they had become destitute and had received relief from the guar dians of any union; and no expenses incurred in aid of the emigration of any occupier and his family, or any destitute poor person, under the provisions of this Act, or any of the Acts for the relief of the destitute poor in Ireland, shall be deemed to be expenses incurred for the relief of the poor." Clause 26, line 40, after the word "disallowance," insert "or reduction;" in the same line, leave out the words "by this Act declared to be illegal." (School for the North and South Dublin Unions.) And whereas it is expedient that the guardians of th'e poor of the North Dublin and South Dublin unions should be enabled to join in the occupation and main tenance of a school for the education of the children re ceiving relief in the workhouses of the said unions : Be it exacted, that the poor-law commissioners be empow ered to hire or purchase land, not exceeding statute acres, and to erect thereon a suitable building. according to a plan approved by them, and sealed with their seal, to be used and occupied as a school for the reception, maintenance, and education of children not above the age of fifteen years, being inmates of one or other of the workhouses of the North Dublin and South Dublin unions ; and the guardians of each of the said unions shall contribute to the cost of hiring or purchasing such land, and of erecting such build ing, and of upholding, repairing, or altering the same, in the proportion which the net annual value of the one union bears to the net annual value of the other, and shall contribute in the same proportion to defray the expenses of furnishing and fitting lip the said school, and providing all articles, implements, and requisites, for the common use of the inmates thereof, and to the salaries and other emoluments of the paid officers to be appointed as hereinafter is provided; but the mainte nance of the children belonging to each union, which the guardians of such union shall direct and send to be educated in such school, shall be at the separate cost of the union, and the proportion of the cost of maintenance to be charged on each union shall be calculated, and shall be defrayed by the guardians of the union, in such manner as the Poor-law Commissioners shall direct: provided that the guardians of each union shall not be entitled to send to be maintained and educated in such school, a number of children exceeding that proportion of the whole number to be at one time maintained in the said schcol, which agrees with the proportion borne by the net annual value of the union to the net annual of both unions, except with the convent of the Poor-law Commissioners in that behalf first had and obtained. (Board of Management for conducting the School.) And be it enacted, that the management of the said school shall be conducted by a Board of Management, consisting of so many members of the respective beards of guardians of the North Dublin and South Dublin Unions, as the Poor-law CommisAoners shall by order under their seal direct, and such members shall be chosen by the guardians of the said unions, in such proportions, and at such times and in such manner as the Commis sioners shall direct; and the chairman of each o f th e said unions shall be an ex-officio member of the said board of management ; and the said board of management shall meet, three members thereof being present to form a board, and shall exercise their functions and perform their duties in accordance with the rules and regulations issued by the Poor-law Commissioners for their guidance and control ; and it shall be lawful for the Poor-law 'Commissioners to au.thorise and direct the said board of management to appoint paid officers for the superintendence of the said school, of such de scription and with such qualifications and salaries as the said Commissioners shall deem fitting and expedient, and to prescribe the duties to be performed by the said officers respectively; and every such paid officer shall be subject in all respects to the control of the Poor-law Commissioners and the Board of Management, in the same manner as other paid officers appointed under the Acts now in force for the relief of the poor are subject to the control of the Poor-law Commissioners and the guardians of the union whereof they are officers, and shall be liable to removal in the same manner. On the amendments being agreed to, Mr. GROGAN said that he had given notice of two additional clauses, [meanie the authorities of Liverpool had intimated that they intended to appeal against the impositions which had been placed upon them. He un derstood that the proposition of clauses, by way of rider, at the present moment, was irregular, but as there were at the present time 40,00 ) destitute poor requiring sub sistence in Dublin, he thought that some measure was necessary to settle the mode of settlement in Ireland. The SPEAKER—The Hon. Member was clearly ir regular in bringing forward such clauses in the present stage. Sir G. GREY said that the law of settlement was of too much importance to be settled by clauses introduced as riders on a Bill about to be read a third time and passed. The subject would have the anxious attention of the Government and would be arranged in a future measure. The clauses were then withdrawn. The Bill was read, with the amendments, a third time and passed. LANDLORD PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL. _ _ _ _ On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, that this Bill be read a third time, Colonel RAWDON, in moving a sentence at the end of clause 4, " for erecting and making corn-mills, with the necessary buildings and vs ater-courses, for perma nently improving the lands in Ireland," said that the evi dence of Mr. Trevillian, who had been much maligned, had fully proved the necessity for these works, and ho only wished that he had had the benefit of his presence, for he had shown that the mill power in the Channel Islands had been of infinite service to the inhabitants, and he wanted to know why the Government had de parted from their most deliberate intentions on this subject. Sir G. GREY said that the words bad originally struckformed mr. ol p u, t a t i r io t n o ßd f Ne f t Ee h r e te yn ti e l l s , taoi b dt u h t t eh t aw h t y sphr e h i os a r d o to a l f rt t i c hs r he w A) a .ie r e d an i been year blesr4s2., Irish Members had invariably opposed the importation of grain into Ireland, and it was only when the Right b t e h r ey for fo T r ar h w e or fi t r h st h t a i d me intro- de parteddii:ened Baron eth f i r s om measuretehe Mtheamt established rule. He thought that the erection of mills should be left to private enter prise, and not be trusted to Government supervision. Mr. FITZSTEPHEN FRENCH did not think that the reply of the Right Hon. Baronet was any answer to the motion of his Hon. and Gallant Friend. The clause itself would be found most desirable for the west of Ireland. He did, however, think with his Hon. Friend behind him, that it would be a useless expenditure of money to erect mills of this kind. What they wanted were erections of a different character. The House divided, when there appeared— For the motion .. . Against it Majority —69 Lord GEORGE BENTINCK moved that a portion of the advances be appropriated to the erection of farm houses. Sir G. GREY said that it would be better to appro priate the money for the permanent improvement of the land. After a few words from Mr. S. CRAWFORD and Mr. F. FRENCH, the House divided, when there appeared,— For the amendment 3O Against it B6 Majority against the amendment —56 Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD then moved that 35th and 45th clauses be expunged, as he considered that they would place too much power in the hands of the proprietors, and would prove most injurious to the tenants. ors read a t d o n a t t h a i n r and timeb begged, e a d n , dr:rhe th erefore, i cat e is r espt e ape dof:o.sr.ertNce The House Mr. HINDLEY seconded the motion. and d The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND said the clauses had been framed for the express purpose of leading to the improvement of the land, and that their expulsion would materially vitiate the object of . the . Bill. Mr. S. CRAWFORD said he would not divide the This Bill pa, , sed through Committee, and the report wili(Tt)uhisferaßo"nillithwL:aUssNpthrAoe'nprlC ASYLUMS BILL. wasro The hhr o iee. o r dered GREENS Ruar RELIEFebIEI d l s :Fen t s ) Improvementbe Eo f rse received tuphoie Et t idßilyip o x:B n wosi irroee o sN i s l ad, was (ll IRE LA ND) House then resumed. ordered to be brought up on Monday. time. Mr. F. MAULE obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Act for rendering effective the service of the Chelsea and Greenwich Out-Pensioners. Sir GEORGE GREY introduced a Bill to amend the laws relating to Highways. The Bill was read a first time. The House then adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'clock. A CENTRAL POLICE-STATION.—A police-station on a very extentive scale is now being erected in King street, Westminster, for the A division of police, in the place of the miserable hole in Gardener's-lane. It will include a residence for the Superintendent, coachhouse and stabling for the criminal vans, and the other offices and cells for the prieonera. It occupies a considerable space of ground, FRIDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. DOWNING-STREET, APP.IL 16, 1847. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Charles Justin Ma( Carthy, Esq., to be Au litor and Accountant-General and Controller of Revenue for the Island of Ceylon. CROWN-OFFICE, APRIL 15. MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN TIIIS PRESENT PARMA MENT. County of Somerset (Eastern Division)—William Pinner, Esq., of Somerton Erleigh, in the county of Somerset, in the room of William Gore Langton, Esq., deceased. %VAR-OFFICE, APRIL 16. 7th Light Dragoons—Lieutenant-Colonel the Honourable Charles Alexander Wrottesley, from half-pay Unattached, to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice John James Whyte, who exchanges; Major Arthur Shirley to be Lieutenant- Colonel, by purchase, vice Wrottesley, who retires; Brevet Major Gervase Parker Bushe, to be Major, by pur chase, vice Shirley; Lieutenant Sir William Russell, Bart., to be Captain, by purchase, vice Bushe; April 16. Lieu tenant Charles Bowles, to be Captain, by purchase, vice Heleyar, who retires, April 17. Cornet Alfred Sartoris, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Sir W. Russell, April 16. Cornet William Dascon Bushe to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Bowles, April 17. Edward Grogan, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Sartoris, April 16. 13:h Light Dragoons—Randall Wilmer Hatfield, Gent., to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Dimsdale, appointed to 16th Light Dragoons, April 16. 16th Light Dragoons—Cornet Thomas Robert Charles Dimsdale, from 13th Light Dragoons, to be Cornet, vice Feliowes, who retires, April 16. Ist Regiment of Foot—Lieut. Thomas James Parker to be Adjutant, vice Windham, who resigns the Adjutancy only, April 16. 13th Foot.—Quartermaster Sergeant Bryan llanrahan to be Quartermaster, vice Mark Sheridan, who retires upon half-pay, April 16. 23d Foot.—Captain George Warren, from half-pay 3d West India Regiment, to be Captain, vice Baker, deceased; Lieutenant William Pitcairn Campbell to be Captain, by purchase, vice Warren, who retires; Second Lieutenant Agassiz to be First Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Campbell ; Richard Milford, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Agassiz, April 16. 67th Foot—Ensign Daniel Thompson to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Adair, who retires; Henry Leslie Hunt, Gent, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Thompson, April 16. 3d West India Regiment—Quartermaster Sergeant Hors ley to be Quartermaster, vice William Wakefield, who re tires upon half-pay, April 16. BREVET.—Captain George Warren, of 23d Foot, to be Major in the Army, July 22, 1830; Brevet Major George Warren, of the 23d Foot, to be Lieutenant-Colonel in the Army, Nov. 9, 1846. MEMORAIIDU3L—The Christian names of Ensign Whit lock, of the 4th Foot, are George Frederick Tod, and not George Frederick Foot, as previously stated. The Christian names of Ensign M'Gregor, of 69th Foot, are Alexander Edgar, and not Alexander Edward, as previously stated. Erratum in the Gazette of 23d March, 1847. 17th Foot—For Colour- Sergeant George Palmer ' to be Ensign, vice King, appointed to 22d F oo t, read Colour- Sergeant " Richard Pilmer," to be Ensign, vice King, ap pointed to the 22d Foot. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Gloucestershire and of the City of Bristol. Royal Gloucestershire Regiment of Hussar Yeomanry— William Osborne Maclaine, Gent., to be Cornet, vice Sawyer, resigned, April 12. CIRCUITS OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RELIEF OF INSOLVENT DEBTORS. SUMMER CIRCUITS, 1847.—(Befere Wintanat JOHN LAW, Esq., Commissioner ) Norfolk—At Norfolk Castle, Tuesday, J une 29. At the City of Norwich—On the same day, instead of Wed nesday, June 30, as heretofore appointed. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. John Davis, tailor, Wedmore, Somerset. BINKRUP Robert A. Stace, upholsterer, Sandgate, Kent, to surrender April 23, at twelve, and May 28. at half- past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Carman, official assignee, Birchin lane ; Waller, Finsbury-circus. Henry Knight, brewer, Reading, April 23. at half-past twelve, and May 28, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Cannan, official assignee, Birchin-lane ; Holmes, Great James street, Bedford-row; Clarke, Reading. David Heard. sen., carpenter, Barking, Essex, April 22, at three, and May 27, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street-buildings; Buchanan, Basinghail-street. George Berryman, licensed victualler, Staines, April 27, at two, and June 1, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Jury ; Stroughill, Coleman-street; Richings, Staines. Sarah James and Thomas Herbert, grocers, Brynmawr, Llanelly, Brecon, April 30 and June I, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol ; Leman, Bristol. Charles Elstone, linen-draper, Guildford, Surrey, May 3 and June 7, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Gra ham, official assignee ; Jones, Sise-lane, Bucklersbury. Meyer Abraham Seckel and Hillery John Banerman, watch manufacturers, Duke-street, Aldgate, City, May 1, at one, and June 5, at half-past eleven, a t th e Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee, Aldermanbury; Sydney, Liverpool street. Alexander White Battersby, joiner, Liverpool, April 27, and May 14, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool; Chester and Co., Staple Inn, London ; Tyrer, Liverpool. John Featherstone, butcher, Goole, Yorkshire, April 27 and "Slay 18, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Young, offi cial assignee, Leeds ; Williamson and Co., Great James -street. Bedford-row ; England, Howden, Yorkshire ; Bond and Barwick, Leeds. Henry Hodgkins, shoemaker, Birmingham, April 27 and May 18, at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. Christie, official assignee, Birmingham ; Hodgson, Bir mingham. Nicholas Temperley, coal merchant, King William-street, City, April 27, at half-past one, and May 28, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street; Henderson, Mansell-street, Goodman's fields. Francis William Gerisb, iron founder, East-roal, City road, April 29, at eleven, and June 7, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquand, official assignee, Old Jewry-chambers; Adams, George-street, Mansion. house. Henry Butcher, butcher, Lamb's Conduit -street, April 23, at two, and June 1, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abchurch-lane ; Oldkno w , Chapel street, Bedford-row. John Ellis, ale and porter merchant, Bristol, April 29, a t twelve, and May 27, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Acraman, official assignee, Bristol; Bishop, Lincoln's Inn fields; Henderson, Bristol. John David Symes, coal-dealer, Axminster, April 29, at one, and May 19, at eleven, at the Exeter District Court. Hernaman, official assignee, Exeter; Stogdon, Exeter; Kede dell and Co., Lime-street, London. Robert Sword, draper, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, April 26, at eleven, and June 3, at one, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Dis trict Court. Wakley, official assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Harle, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Chisholme, Hall, and Gibson, Lincoln's Inn-fields. DIVIDENDS DECLARED. J. Coles, tobacconist, Strand—first dlv. of 9d. in the pound, on Sattuday, April 17, and two subsequent Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch-lane, City. Thomas Thompson, grocer, Brighton—first div. of 3s. in the pound, on Saturday, April 17, and two subsequent Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch-lane, City. G. Bradbury, ironmonger, Bishopsgate-street—first div. of 14s. in the pound, on Saturday, April 17, and three subse quent Saturdays, at tne office of Mr. Groom, Abchurch lane, City. J. K. Bullen, tailor, Peterborough—first div. of 4s. 4d. in the pound, on Saturday, April 17, and two subsequent Satur days, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. W. L. Collins, brewer, Wood-street, Westminster—first div. of Is. 2d. in the pound, on Saturday, April 17, and two subsequent Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frede rick-place, Old Jewry. G. Whitehead, printer, Fleet-street —second div. of 2s. in the pound, and first and second div. of 3s. 6d. in the pound on new proofs, on Saturday, April 17, and two subsequent Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. J. Challen, brewer, Odibam, Southampton—first div. of Is. in the pound, on Saturday, April 17, and two subsequent Saturdays, at the office of Mr. Edwards, Frederick's-Place, Old Jewry. J. Botcherby, coal owner, Darlington, Durham —first div. of 2s. 6d. in the pound, on any Saturday, at the office of Mr. Waklev, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. H. Hughes, linendraper, Manchester—first div. of 20s. in the pound, on any Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Hobs Manchester. on, J. Roberts and H. Hughes, linendrapers, Manchester-- final div. of Is. 2 1 4 d. in the pound, on any Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Hobson, Blanchester. G. H. Openshaw, power loom cloth manufacturer, Over Darwen, Lancashire—first dir. of Bs. 9d. in the pound, on any Tuesday, at ihe office of Mr. Hobson, Mancheste r . T. Rogers, dentist, Bradford, Yorkshire —first div. of 2s. 2d. in the pound, on any Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Hope, Leeds. J. Broadbent, woollen manufacturer, Saddleworth, York shire—first div. of N. in the pound, on any Tuesday, at the office of Mr. Hope, Leeds. J. Brett, grocer, Spilshy, Lincolnshire—first div. of 2s. Gd. in the pound,- on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Ky naston, Hull. D. W. Acraman, W. E. Acraman, A. J. Acraman, W. Morgan, T. Holroyd, and J. N. Franklyn, ship builders, Bristol—first div. of 2s. Gd. in the pound, on any Wednesday, at the office of Mr. Hutton, Bristol. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basinghall-street.attw twelve— M. W. Parnall, clothier, Blackfriars-road, May 7, M. J. Stone, grocer, Abingdon, Berkshire, May 10, at twelve— M. Hampshire, May 10, at one J. Dyke, innkeeper, ROMSey, —E. J. - Howe, china dealer, Deptford, May 10, at half- past twelve—C. Proctor, wine merchant,W itßhuarmy, St. Edmunds, m M u a n y d B B; at eleven—W. Cooper, haberdasher, Gass, draper, Colchester, May 8, at May 7, at twelve — twelve—T. Gammajg.e_a_nadJ7: Mott, cheesemongers, Broad_ street, eleven—J. Mott, street, Bloomsbury, MJ cheese monger, and J. Oridge, drapers, Charlbury, O x f or d s hi re, 3 . 7, May at twelve—J. Boddington, provision dealer, Man chester,7, at half-past twelve—J. Wray, f urr i er , New ington-causeway, May 7, at half-past eleven. In the Country. W. Burns, draper, Rhyl, Flintshire, May 7, at twelve, at the Liverpool District Court—W. Maw, builder, Birkenhead, Cheshire, May 10, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court— J. Smith, licensed victualler, Liverpool, May 11, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court—B. Hornby, innkeeper, Hoylake, Cheshire, May 7, at twelve, at the Liverpool Dis trict Court—C. M. Wilkinson, wine merchant, Ulverstone, Lancashire, May 11, at tw e l ve , a t t h e M anchester District Court—P. Calliet, leather dealer, Manchester, May 11, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court—T. Lupton, flax spinner, Leeds, May 13, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court—M. Illingworth, W. Smith, and J. Wright, worsted spinners, Bradford, Yorkshire, May 13, :it eleven, at the Leeds District Court—J. Wood, coach proprietor, Manchester, May 11, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court. CERTIFICATES to be granted, unless cause be shown to the contrary, on the day herein mentioned. J. Stone, grocer, Abingdon, Berkshire, May 10—J. Goulty, mast maker, Stangate, Lambeth, May 11—E. Cook, tailor, Dursley, Gloucestershire, May 7—W. Bookie:is, ironfounder, Liverpool, May 7—W. Skinner, licensed victualler, Burslem, Staffordshire, May 11—J Terry, licensed victualler, Wych street, Strand, Maw 7—W. Gil es , boardinghouse keeper, Brighton, May 7—E. J. Tweed, victualler, Cambridge, May 7, J. Bickerton, hat manufacturer, Castle -street, Southwark, May 7—J. Rogers, scrivener, Bromyard, Herefordshire, May 7—J. A. T. Mathews, glass merchant, Great Dover. road, Newington. May 7—C. F. Smyrk, builder, Lavinia grove, Wharf-road, May 7—T. Clarke, licensed victualler, Cheltenham, May 7. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. J. Musser] and J. Nunnelev, brewers, Burton-upon-Trent —P. Nevins and R. J. Lawton, estate agents, Manchester— P. Vine and E. H. Langley, Li;np,cl—J. Content:in and U. Clark, lithograpner., Pancras-lane, Queen street, Cheapside--.R. W R. Green and L. h I Whitaker, brewers, Sal- ford—H. Blake and S. A. King, dressmakers, JunCtion-tk race, Edgware-road—E. Bates and J. Walkington, stc.4 as agents, on brokers, Leeds—W. Lane and C. N. Wilcox, Conirnrs.—as agents,G ao :church-streets-4 and D. Camp, builder, t"*'"" hunt, Hertfordshire—T. F. Chilver and W. Brown , M I , thecaries, New Burlington-street—W. Williamson , liamson, and W. Gaskill, hat manufacturers, Stockport far as regards W. Gaskill)—F. M. Hitchcock, R. !V T ., A and W. M. Hitchock, woollen manufacturers, South Mc"; and Exwick, Devonshire (so far as regards F.M. Ilitc hccte —J. Barton and G. Smallfield, proprietorsof the Leic est shire Mercury, Leicester—E. L. Jarnialland F. G. Wa d I°l ! 1 1 stationers, Queen-street, Cheapside—T. Pashley a nd l id, Plevius, builders, Birmingham—N. Bruce and G . .. " 1 ftysssef printers, Farringdon street—J. Mills and 13 - C I ri colliers, Sedgley, Staffordshire—J. Allen J. Cookson, :36. Coulthard, chemical manufacturers, Heworth, Durboal'lnn Stephen and B. W. Hutchinson, attorneys, Furnivall° Holborn. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. oaa Murdoch Maclain e , Argyll, April 20 and May 11, At at the Argyll Arms Hotel, Inverarv. r a 5.1 in g James M'Comish, Lieutenant, la.N , Crieff, May 12, at two, at the D rummon d Arms. Hotel, Crlet& . 1 23 Jlll Ol Thomas Farquhar, shawl manufacturer, Gl a sgow, , fb en and May 14, at twelve, at the chambers of Messrs. Ste 4" and Douglas, Glasgow. - - PRICE OF SUGAR. / mo oted The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, 13t from the returns made in the week ending AK' 1847, is 335. VAd. cwt. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF CHANCERY, April 1.6. 3IANN V. STEPHENS. A te The arguments in this part-heard appeal motion., • sumed and concluded to-day, and His Lordship postponed his judgment. ° MOSELEY r. ALSTON—THE NARROW V . THE BROIL, 00 na Sir FITzaoY KELLY opened an a pp ea l i n this cad “ r° $ decision of the Vice-Ch a n ce ll or o f E ng l an d OVVITO ling h murrer put by the defendant to the pl a intiff's bill , b ut " not concluded when the Court rose. hell, cal An application was made this morning by Mr.7 3 at h b og, behalf of the respondents, the plaintiffs in the C our t :, to postpone the hearing of the a pp ea l t o a future u s ' his Lordship refused to graat the application. VICE-CHANCELLORS' COURT, A 9 r ill6 ' , (Before the VICE-CHANCELLOR of ENGL AN D.P d i s pOr His Honour the Vice-Chancellor of England, ac e '', short ing of the unopposed causes and p e titi o ns, and t lo ots causes on his paper, proceeded to hear the further lirßu ele y in the art heard motion for an injunction in " 0 1 ° 6 Alston." re' Sir FITZROY KELLY, on behalf of the defen lia'solo sumed his arguments against gra n ti ng th e i n junctikint course of which f The VICE-CH ,-,cc-cird VICE-CHANCELLOR inquired whether the eiti , Birmingham Railway Company, in their corporat e cal; had been served with notice of the application 1 br junction; and, upon b e i ng answere d i n t h e neglitl'ot. Honour ordered the motion to stand over till Tne stis!Y RAILWAY SHARE MAR ICE". MANCHESTER, Aran, li. „ r or, o t STOOK EXCHANGE.-The sales are--Ambergete,,,,--.01,0; ham, and Boston, 3 / 4 -Bristol and Exeter, N . evc , Lancashire (late B. and P.), New (scrip), 1• 0 " Preston, and West Riding Junction, %-Hudder s u,, e oo ll, Manchester Railway and Canal, 1% c.-Leeds an u mr . Preterentials, 7i-Leeds, Dewsbury, and Yentnebet - stOP London and North-Western (Manchester arid. Noir 68-Ditto, Quarters (13), 5%-Elv and klunting",74, Ditto, New, % -'Manchester and Leeds, 327. Sbare 9l ` . .jisr tension), 1 3 q -Ditto,, Fifths (late W. It. U 1 c "0 161 ; chester and Southampton, 18s. 6d.-North British, ,~pld` sion, %-North Staffordshire, 2%-Noi,th-Western• (A), ham Alliance, c.-Shrewsbury ar4 Birming!'! i latt; % -Di tto, (B), % dis.-Shropshire U nion, 19-1 6 ,g. 54. Eastern and Dover, 36-Ditto, No. 4, % S o . shire, 4-Wharfdae, % c. Y . LEEDS, Aran. 16. pttiDß STOCK EXCHANGE. --The sales cre-Ambergate;;4 I S& lam, and Boston, lls. 6d. dis.-East Lancashire , p.-Ditto, New Scrip, 14s. East and West Yollout. p.- -Great Northern, 12s. 6d. dis.-Leeds and Dew, ll- 10/„ . r.-Leeds and Thirsk, dis.--Ditto, New, ea ch ' Ditto, Preference, 20s. p.-Malton and Driffield 2s. 61 p.-Manchester and Leeds, 321. Shares ( A' p"" 2. ~cd. tensions), 365. p.-Ditto, W es t Ridi ng Union, - Manchester, Buxton, Matlock, and Ilaidland, s fi land, Preference, 2% p.-Newctastle and Berwick, N°A'▪ 00 c. p.-Ditto, New, 2% p.-North British, Qtla_ i rt e l i . 1 0 ! Carlisle Branch), 1 1 4 p.-Ditto, E x t ens ion ( 6 '8 4 00 6° ' p.-North Staffordshire, 2 1 4 p.-Northern Union, 425. dis.-North-Western, 18s. dis. SHEFFIELD, APRIL 16. tl STOCK ExcnaNGE.-The sales are-Eastern ia uv :ll9s:„ • York Extension, :y 4 dis.-Great No r thern, 3 if f i d leffie lu chester, She ffi eld, and Lincolnshi re (Grimsby and S gb Cl. dis.-Ditto, 201. Shares, 435. dis.-Ditto, Poc k " itidia -Ditto (Sheffield and Lincoln), 465. dis.--I' dis Union, 255. 6d. p.-Leeds, W a k e fi e ld, an d Midland, GLASGOW, Amu. 15. 4. re ars'' Madras, STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Direc t Poo l re ars' , Madras, 3s. 91-East Indian, 65.-East Lothian `l o lyetS 515.-Edinburgh and Perth (New Co.), 575. - V i i i t i t t : 304 . 215.-Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ayr, 60'%' - '"' n 'd Ditto, Halves, No. 2, 74-Glasgow, Dumfries, „.....gso. Si. Bs.-Glasgow and Greenock, Preference, 325• "",..„ c tiol4 Grand 41. cheater and Southampton, 248.-Scottish 20s. 6d.-Wishaw and Coltness, 49%. MARKET INTELLIGENC E. 10 13 (From the London New Price Current of Apr i l fa r SUGAn.—To-day the market was in an inactive eta s. o cillt • raw Sugar of all descriptions. and prices again w ent the supply being more than adequate for the demand' st et West India the purchases made were trifling in all so rts, Dt did not exceed 160 hhdr , &c., although there were 0 116 " a further reduction in prices. s td REFIXED.—To-day there was no desire evinced to oP_„ e in re fi ned goods by the home trade, but standard lumps C o easily be obtained at 63s 6d, and brown lumps at 62 3 to per cwt. Crushed is in a dull state, and first quality, be obtained at 355. 11 MAUBITIL'S.—The demand has further increased for cb descriptions, grocers and refiners operating witls caution by private treaty, although there are sellers B '; r e rather under former rates. At auction, 1,292 bags °- nearly all taken in. EAST INDIA.— This afternoon four parcels of Bengal. sll>>r; amounting to 5,613 bags were submitted to public cet; of tion ; the chief part sold, but at a decline on former r e 6d per cwt. MorAssxs.—There has been little desire mani fest :oll; operate in West India ; prices Still tend downwards , sitl, sot there is not a large quantity on offer. Bengal Teesel, Ia much wanted. There is at present but a small suPpai the low and middling qualities of Honey a Pe d ,,,,411 ei r • bC-en done, but th e b etter sorts h ave b een bought "" Lion. Of all kinds arrivals are shortly expected. 'll l rl FOREIGN.—Tnis aft ernoon 1,200 tons of Java Sits - ce s ot disposed of for Holland; but, at present, the prices b e tran,pired. ~0100 COTIEE.—This afternoon Coffee met with little st"' t from exporters or the home trade by private treaty; S o full lic sale 247 bags of Plantation Ceylon, however, s old rates. COCOA.—Business to a small extent ottlY ha : - 11 - 0 1 r! lit _51 tre es act tendency.edinlV A es t t p l u n b d li i a c , sa a l en,dtzpbriacgess ofh aTir-ein were . t. 0.0 0 1 7 04 grey. Foreign met with littl e attention, at 55s for common dark red, and at 508 for old an d nets to be more desire to sell at 448 to 47s per cwt. i on , an d ther e gir ,p(lP r .4 RtcE.—To-day East India Rice was much i n ue•— sis 0,• at public s vately, and prices advanced 3d per cwt ; bags of Bengal were sold, and 1,60 4 bags of gatif_aeittentioo, SPICES. —To-day Cassia Li gnea met w ith lit tl i s nara r retell and 500 bo xes at pu bli c sale were sold at rather '— 16 casks and 27 begs of Cloves were taken in. en SPIRITS. —Although Leeward Island Rum ca n " b en e',; at further reduced terms, still the purchases 118 ",,d e lart p 'il tremely limited. East India is heavy of disposal, 11- „• 00 , declined in value. Demerara met with little attew":„; bee" there is a desireto J • t rifling •ens; sell. I n J a ma ic a 80 ots ti the purchases, that it is dillicult to give accurate (lo rds f 0 the tendency of prices is, however, still downw s or te, t he Brandy the market has a dull appearance for all Ge asfS stock is on the increase, and there is a desire to sal. tile tic is little wanted for exportation, and cline. For British Corn Spirits the demand is actir'i r ieb• prix es ar e ou 118 is the value of English nett cash ; Scotch all' lOs 6d to Ils. Gin is in good demand. iurthe rre ; Cocimezat.—Although there are sellers a , a uto ) , duction in the value, s till th e t ra de operated w il o" i 3 06' by private treaty i n bl ac k an d s il vers . At auction A C A of Teneriffe were offered, but a part only found NO' fall on former rates of 2d per lb. offer ed so FaIIIT.—At public sale this week have bees ~,f ati or fA butts 30 crtls Currants part damaged Patras, very bpt fine quality 50s to 568; of the former very little wil! . s " Greeig a the latter briskly. Cephalonia damaged 50s to 511 I' bes Da d Figs in cases 345, damaged 31s. liluscatels but t barr el* layers, damaged 38s to 425. Red Smyrna Raisi n : id clia ea a very inferior parcel, 335, Eleme Raisine, da mag 86s to 398. Lin „ e d oil ti , J; l OILS.—The demand has improved fo r week, and prices have risen 3d to dvll'etfe;t,mattFeoratfo2r2l6edd delivery purchases to a fair extent be obtate to 26s 9d. per cwt. Although upon reduced terms, still few contracts have are cs There are now few orders for Olive Oil, and prices , ~u o t ed decline. Prices remain much the same as previous il 'i s Nab r CO ° sit Rapeseed Oi l c an ben coac i a , t _ b• for Palm Oil, but the home demand is good. Fo ingly de lower rates have been accepted. Seal has been spar— -„ e A— in. Southern is little wanted. No further advelle taken place in the value of Sperm, but a good del:nand I Mr. Martin V. de Ponte had an interview refs'' ,pr a with Earl Grey at the Colonial Office. BIRTHS. On the 10th inst., at Poole ' the lady of Joh n Hussey, 9(1" of Crewkerne, Somerset, of a daughter. On the 14th inst., at Blackheath-park, the wife of Hera W. Andrews, Esq., of a son. On the 14th inst., at Feltham-hill, Middlesex, the lady' of William Sheffield, Esq., of a son. At Dawlish, Devonshire, the lady of John Henry Ley, 944 jun., of Treehill, of a son. D. On the 13th inst., at MARRIE the British Embassy, at Paris, t y l l Right Hon. Lord Keane, to Louisa, second daughter of S• Benyon, E:41., of Denston Hall, near Newmarket. t' ii On the 13th inst., at Antony, Cornwall, Edward o i Bi:shopp, Esq., to M ar y, on ly d aug ht er o f Rear-Ad z? ' Taylor, of the Brazilian Navy. DIED. vAllif On the 12th inst., at Westover, Isle of Wight, Louisa ,D- 1 „§ the lady of Sir Richard Simeon, Bart., to whom sh e W..- married in 1813. On the 2d inst., at St. Germain, near Paris, Awl Albet' tina Hutchinson d - 4 . , age i . • 'ilia Oa the 12th inst., Mary Ann, the wife of Mr. 13e1 3 .1 41- Taylor, of Barbican, aged 33. On the 12th inst., Mari on C ra i g , wife of Edward 3 1 ° °. derton, Esq., of Brixton, Surrey. f th e On the 13th inst., at flamptoc-court, Anne, daug hter Lite Lieutenant-General Sir J ose ph M ac Lean, N."' °f o uo t Royal Art illerr. On the 13t1; inst., Edward Thomas, printer, Covent-garden, aged 36. Egg" On the 13th inst., in Harle - t ' William Madura, 3-s ree,, surgeon, aged 56. , Tien/ On the 13th ihst., at the Vicarage, Watford, Major Robert Capel, Rifle Brigade, aged 40. ~, job o On the 14th insa., ia Prince's-place, Kennington, Mr' Rus.—.P-1-1-c°utt' Hudson Man, aged 21. On the 14th inst., Mr. John Rice, of Paddington-street' , St. Marylebone, aged 83. On the 14th inst., in Highbury-place, Elizabeth, relict °f Edg ard the late Thomas Wilso Esq., agen 85. rdvi On the 15th inst., a n t i the Lawn, South Lambeth, Hesaltine, Esq., of the Stock Exchange, aged 65. - , I'rlnte.l Publi4hed try Avjapc , rOTTN6, " • Stran.;, at TheiSuat)alez, N u . I 11 1 • of the Sway, in the County of 311ddloes, Saturtutlr 1847. :V ,