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ZtOUSE OF COMMONS. GROUP L The Select Committee appointed to consider the merits of the Bills comprised in this group re-assembled in Room 30, at the usual hour this morning; Mr. W. 0. Stanley in the chair. THE Batairrozr SIZE ZENT SCHEME. The Right Hon. J. C. Herries gave general evidence in fa vour of the Brighton line. He understood the Brighton company were prepared to bind themselves —at least he had neen told so at one of their meetings—to charge 2d. for first, 11,4 d. for second, and Id. for third-class passengers, and, on that account, more than any other, he was disposed to sup port the line. Besides, neither he nor his neighbours had confidence in the sincerity of the South-Eastern in proposing a Mid Kent line. He was decidedly an advocate for compe tition. . In cross-examination he admitted that he thought the saving of the Croydon toll to the South-Eastern Company was a sufficient consideration to induce them to make their proposed line. He was not aware that at one of the Kent meetings, Mr. Wilkinson, the Deputy Chairman of the Lon don and South Coast Company, pledged his company, in con sideration cf the Mid Kent line being conceded to them, to charge 1 1 ,id. for first, Id. for second, and 1 / 2 d. for third-class passengers, which pledge was afterwards repudiated by the South Coast Company. A number of witnesses from Sevenoakq, Tunbridge, and Maidstone, were examined, but their testimony all bore upon the same point, namely, that they preferred the Brighton line to the South-Eastern. The Committee adjourned at the usual hour till twelve o'clock to-morrow (this day). GROUP VI. SO -WESTERN SC xisrams-••43ALISIIVRY AND YEOVIL, AND zazimit, YEOVIL AND DOECNZSTER . The Committee met this morning at twelve, Mr. Deedes, in the chair. Mr. Squarrey, a farmer residing near Salisbury, was called to give evidence in favour of the South-Western extension of the line from Salisbu r y to the West of England. The rail way would, if constructed, afford him consider a bl e advan- taxes in sending his stock to the metropolis and other parts o f England, and also effect a saving of a t l east s i xpence per head on the present mode of conveyance. He believed that a break of gauge at Salisbury would mar the beneficial effect of railway communication, by causing considerable injury to the stock in the process of removing from one truck to the other. The railway would, if constructed, afford also great advantages for the conveyance of lime, with which the dis trict abounded, and also coals, manure, and other article:. Mr. James Crew, grazier, from the nAghbourhood of Salisbury, gave evidence favourable to the line. If the line were constructed it would effect a saving to him of at least 30s. per head on the expense of sending his cattle to London. The terminus of the South-Western Railway, when com pleted at London-bridge would also afford greater facilities for removing cattle from the railway to Smithfield. Great quantities of dead meat would also be sent to London by this railway, which it was essential should be constructed on an unbroken gauge. Mr. T Mathews also deposed to the advantages which this line would afford in the conveyance of live stock, killed neat, and other agricultural produce. The Committee then adjourned. GROUP XVI. The Committee to whom the following Bills have been re ferred met this morning in No. 23 Committee-room, at half past twelve o'clock; Mr. Kemble in the chair:— London and North-Western (St. Alban's, Luton, and Dun stable). Great Northern Railway (Hertford, Hatfield, and St. Alban's). Eastern Counties Railway (Hertford to Hitchin, &c.) Enfield and Edmonton Railway Extension. The CHAIRMAN said he entirely concurred in the justice of the rule which had been laid down by many of the other Committees, that no counsel who was absent at the exami nation in chief of a witness should be allowed to cross oxamine him, except under special circumstances, and by the express permission of the Committee, because enormcus expense would be thereby obviated; but they did not think it necessary, in the present instance, to adopt that rule; yet, at the same time, he begged distinctly to state that the Committee had reser►ed to itself the right of acting upon the rule at any time they might think fit. The appearances for the various parties having been entered, The Csralnatax intimated that they were ready to hear Mr. Sergeant Wrangham open the case of the Great Northern (Hertford, Hatfield, and St. Alban's). Mr. Sergeant WRA.NCHIA3f said he was prepared to pro ceed at once; but as the Railway Commissioners had not yet reported on the capital of the Eastern Counties' branch, and as in some respects it might be looked upon as a com peting project, he suggested to the Committee whether it would not be advisable to postpone the consideration of the two lines until they could both come before the Committee in a similar positios, so tar as the reports of the Railway Com misaioners were concerned. After some discussion, The CHAIRMAN intimated that he would first take the OR.E.A.T NORTHERN BRANCH. and, at the completion of the case, they would take the Eastern Counties project. Mr. Sergeant Waaartmaat then proceeded to open the case. He said, at present the county Pt ' Hertford was traversed by three lines of railway--towanis the west by the North-Western, the east by the Eastern Counties, and directly through the centre by the main line of the Great Northern Railway, and that oue of the great of jec.s o the branches was the supply of that great desidtratum to the county—namely, a connexion between these three lines. Although the county was, as he had said, traversed by thee three lines, each line only accommodated the districts in its immediate vicinity, and then only northward and south ward, not giving any lateral communication, which was much needed. For instance, the two great towns of the county, Hertford and St. Alban's--and at the first the sessions and assizes were held, and the county business trans acted—were entirely cut off from each other, so far as rapid and cheap railway communication was concerned, and they were but fourteen miles distant from each other. To get from Hertford to St. Alban's by railway, a person must go round by London, and strike off at Watford, on th e N ort h. Western line, and travel to his destination by the Luton branch. The connexion, therefore, of the three lines, by stretching across the county in a lateral direction, was suffi cient, if that were the only advantage of the branches, to ensure the passing of the fill. By them every town or dis trict possessing 2,000 inhabitants would have railway com munication. Barley would be transmitted from the districts in the west to the malting districts in the east—Ware, for instance—and at one quarter of the present rate by cart, which was Bd. per ton per mile. By the Luton line, a communication would be given with the manufacturing districts, with which the Birmingham line was connected, and coals would be brought to the district, by the aid of the Direct Northern, at Ids per ton, instead of 305., as a t present. The Hertfordand Hitchin branch, proposed by the Eastern Counties, omitted all the important towns in the county. True, it would be four miles and a half shorter between Hitchin and Hertford than by the Great Northern and the- Hertford branch; but what would that avail, when it would afford little or none of the local communication sought by the county, and would cost 270,0001., whilst their line, which would offer accommoda tion to one-fourth of the population, would cost only 300,0001.? the length of their line being fifteen :miles and a half, and the Eastern Counties fourteen miles. :His Learned Friend might say that the Eastern Counties could bring coals from Huntingdonshire to Ware at half the price they (the Great Northern) could, on account of the difference of the distance to which he had referred; but a clause was inserted in the Direct Northern Bill compelling them to charge for the transit of goods only by the geogra phical distance. The line would commence at Hertford in connexion with the Eastern Counties line, and run to Hat leld, where it would join the Great Northern ; it would Then sun on to St. Alban's, where it w ou ld join'the proposed Luton and St. Alban's line. After referring to the opposition which the Great Northern had experienced at the hands of the Eastern Counties and the Midland Company, he con• chided by confidently trusting that the Committee would pass the preamble of the Bill. The Marquis of Salisbury, examined by Mr. Sergeant ICINGLAXE.—His Lordship said, his residence was at Hat geld. He had lived in the county all his life, and had paid touch attention to the railway wants of the county, and was well acquainted with the sentiments of the resident gentry .on the subject. All the general business of the county was transacted at Hertford. The liberty of St. Alban's amounted to about oue-third of the county, and the county business transacted there was considerable. The connexion of the three lines was indispensable. Hertfordshire was an agricultural county, and the great markets were St. Alban's and Watford for the west, and Hertford And Ware in the east. There was a great demand for malt for malting at Ware. Formerly there was some demand at Hitchin, but it was not great now. Straw plait ing was carried on at St. Alban's, which would find an outlet the proposed line. He did not understand the use of the iiitchin line, but the other he considered would be most advantageous. There was a general feeling* in the county in favour of the cross lines. Cross-examined—Had insisted upon a deviation of the London and York, which brought it nearer his house, in order that it might not be seen from it. Hertford was generally in favour of the line. The Hertford and St. Alban's markets were on the same day. Gays evidence last year in favour of a St. Alban's and Hatfield line, which Wag rejected. Thera were no public conveyances between the two points of the line. . by Mr. ROWE, for Baron Dimslale—Was rot aware of the way in which the line would interfere with this nobleman's property, but if it crossed immediately op posite the house, and ran for a distance of 500 yards on an embankment 13 feet high, and cut off communication with the gardens, it would be a great inconvenience, and would intercept the view. His Lordship was examined with respect to Mr.T. Smith's property at Hertford, but nothing material was elicited. Re-examined by Mr. KINGLAKE—Parties attended both Hertf,rd and St. Alban's markets on the same day. Lord Verulam, the Lord-Lieutenant of -the county, was text examined. He said his seat was in the vicinity of St. Alban's. If the line were not passed, the western part of the eotn4y would, as heretofore, be shut out from railway com munication with the county town. He generally concurred in the evidence of the Marquis of Salisbury. The other ma ristrates, he believed, generally concurredin the necessity of the line. Mr. Durand, the clerk of the peace, said, the population 114 the county, including the liberty of St. Alban's ; was 15 7,207 ; the population of St. Alban's 10,430, togaertford 6,668. Jurymen were summoned from St. Alban's ttend the assizes at Hertford. Magistrates residing on the western Owingof the county did not attend the assizes in the east, wilmg to the want of proper communication. Other e v id ence i n favour of the line having been adduced, use Committee adjourned until to-morrow (this day). GROUP XXVIII. 211.41 The con :rxitsr COUNTSZS EXTENSION. land yn thenidttee on this group, comprising Mr. T. D. Ac- Ed. 1 an i s " en %iii?, the Earl of March, Sirß. Lopez, the Hon. o'clock, when, afteorrd Edwin Hill, met this morning at twelve laden held by Dir. 4 P:flue discussion, as to the right of oppo with the sergeant Clark, the Committee proceeded 1108TOZ, 3:l3Me"- -waiLTZON BRANCH. Mr. PAGZS T ope $ very short line; or in its favour, by stating that this was sival Bill, the 100- • r r near the town of Boston. By the ori posed through 4. z w axi ii ci c i , , of the London and York line boonvonient position, end t a l "to_ 12 9 but would be in a very the collraa ot that one in thee af this Bill was to change it into the centre of one of th e ~,I T ° _, f Boston, so as to bring lo bj e d, therefore, was to g a i n e w or nulPal streets. The first convenient distance etzt to cross the river wi there et a t l l :2 4 . 3 _nvenient station, and fur, the traffic than that orilianelly u : Tor Compan7, and the Eastern cor th , ,-.The London both obtained their Acts, and hadagreed to form "ratan)", had _ t e devia tion, but yet it was aeceesary that there eriouid " be an Act or tt • purl)** • Ir. Cubitt, the engineer of : ' the London and York line, RAILWAY COMMITITES. stated th e a t t he as th n edi s n i e ui w c r :ol e v re p h planned, e w t o l e he of p t as i s.:g t e would (YESTERDAY.) (YESTERDAY.) the county passed. By ;he alteration sought by this Bill the crossing would be below, instead of above the sluice, where, in fact, there is already an iron bridge, anal where the crossing would in no way interfere with the trade. It was ' proposed by the present Bill to carry the railway traffic on one line, and at one rate. The new works would cost about 3001. more than those originally designed ; and those works were to be executed at the expense of the London and York Company, and the change would be of great advantage to the country at large. Mr. Sergeant CLARK was h a i r ri u g t h t t o to o a p p p p o e s a e r, th as e t ß h i e ll, ti w tl h e e o n f some discussion arose as t o the Bill had been changed. It was stated by the agent that the Bill had been originally introduced under one title, but was now prosecuted by the agency of another, under the sanction of the Committee of Selection ; but as it was shown that the petition of the land owners, for whom the Learned Sergeant appeared, had been put in against the Bill under its original title, he was allowed to proceed. On cross-exarainatien, Mr. Cubitt stated that Mr. Locke was originally employed as the engineer of the London and York, but he had himself bees engaged in the October of last year ; and although the line designed by Mr. Locke was a good line, that which he had himself was a better, although he would not say that there was a better through Boston, for there was but the property on both sides of the river pre vented its adoption. To the CHAIRMAN—Mr. Cubitt described the position of the loop branch of the London and York line, of which this formed a part To the CHAIRMAX—Mr. Cubitt replied that the Act of the London and York Company was obtaine I last year, and that the line of the Ambergate and Boston line had been subse quently deviled, and the station now .lesigned was to be close to the station of that company, but in his opinion it would in no way interfere with the station, although the alteration would cross the Ambergate station rails. An objection was here taken that the application required by the Railways Consolidation Act had not been made to the Admiralty, but after much discussion it was allowed that the application had been made, but the answer had not been received. This, however, in no way invalidated the advisa bility of the line, tor no objection had been, in reality, alleged on the part of the Admiralty. To the CHAIRMAN'S suggestion, it was replied that there was an understanding that, in the event of the Eastern Coun ties and the London and York companies receding, tither or both companies might go over the Ambergate lines. Mr. COCKBURN, Q.C., wished to know what the proposi tion really was, and after some further discussion, Mr. PAIIET said that the company had no objection to withdraw the branch, provided they had an outlet granted to them, and this they might obtain if either the East Lincolnshire or the Ambergate Company would enter into arrangements with them. The East Lincolnshire Company were at the present moment in possession of the ground in consequence of their Bill being passed previous to the Act of the Ambergate Company. After some further discussion between the counsel engaged, it was arranged that the Bill should be adjourned till to morrow (this day). S LEAFORD BRILWCIE. Mr. Sergeant Waasanam opened on behalf of this brancb, which is to form a continuation of the London and York branch, but the evidence into be taken to-morrow (this day). GROUP XLVII. This Committee met to-day at twelve o'clock, the Hon, E. Yorke in the chair. WILSONTOWN, MORNINGSIDE, AND COLTNESS (BRANCHES TO BENHAM) BILL. This Bill was then proceeded with. It was petitioned against by Mr. Mann, the agent of Mr. Dixon, an ironmaster in the district, for whom Mr. Sergeant Murphy appeared. Mr. Andrews was for the promoters. Mr. ANDAEWS opened the case, stating that the line was a short mineral branch, to open up the Benhar mineral dis trict with Glasgow and Edinburgh. It was estimated to cost 24,7051., and would prove highly remunerative. The coal and limestone that would be opened up amounted to many millions of tons. Mr. M'Creath, mining engineer, gave evid e n c e as t o th e mineral capabilities of the district, and the benefits which the line would insure. Mr. William M'Creath—He had examined the coal-fields and reported to the promoters of this project. He had bored in two places and found that the aggregate depth of the working seam was ten feet, and that there were some 16,000,000 of tons. in all, that might be brought to the sur face. The whole country was rich in coal, and he had never heard that a doubt had existed as to the existence of coal in great quantities in this particular locality. Mr. Williamson, mineral surveyor, gave similar evidence. He had no doubt that the opening of these fields would, in a considerable degree, lower the price cf fine coals in Edin burgh, and he believed that the furnaces—some seventy in all, would be principally supplied from Benhar. The Committee adjourned at four o'clock. PETITIONS ON PRIVATE BILLS. HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY). (Room 23, before Mr. Examiner MAY.) CORNWALL AND DEVON CENTRAL PLYMOUTH RAILWAY. This case, which is on the opposed list, again came under the con,ideration of the Examiner. After a number of formal proof* had been tendered the ease was further ad journed. LAW INTELLIGENCE. HO USE OF LORDS, April 19. Their Lordships sat to-day in the nos- House for the first time to hear appeals. The Peers pr,:i;ent were the Lord Cr.aLiceilor, Lord ilrutighani, Lord Carapbc:ll, and the 13;shop of Hereford. THE EDINBURGH AND GLASGOW RAILWAY COMPANY V. THE PEOYOST AND TOWN C:JUNCIL OF LINLITHGOW. Mr. BEV:CELL replied at considerable length today in this case, th e argumaits in which w e r e p ar t h ear d prior to the Easter recess. Tneir Lordships postponed giving judgment. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. The City Solicitor attended yesterday for the purpose of answering a complaint made on Saturday to his Lord ' ship by Mr. Farey, the proprietor of the Black Boy and ' Camel public-house, in Leadenhall-mark et, with regard to some proceedings which it had been found necessary to adopt. As he was not present at the time the state ment was made, he should take the report which appeared in the newspapers as containing the matter and manner of the complaint. The LORD MAYOR intimated that the Solicitor was correctly informed through the channel of the press. The City Solicitor said, that, upon reading the account of what had taken place at the Mansion-house, he called at Mr. Farey's house for the purpose of requesting the proprietor to meet him at the Justice room, as he was always desirous of speaking in the presence of any per son who considered himself aggrieved. It did not, however, suit Mr. Farey to attend, and the explanation of the affair must, therefore, be made in his absence. The statement in the newspapers, as he presumed it issued from Mr. Farey's mouth, was a series of misre presentations. Mr. Farey had represented that there was no mode of drainage upon his premises, and that everything which ought to pass into the common sewer passed into a cesspool immediately under his house, and occasioned a most obnoxious nuisance. Now, Mr. Farey must blame either his landlord or himself for permitting such annoyance to exist. The Corporation had built most capacious common sewers all through the city, and if individuals did not cause drains to be made from their premises into these receptacles, they must put up with the inconveniences necessarily arising from the neglect. ' In that respect Mr. Farey must come in for his share of the consequences of the omission. Probably if the Cor poration possessed the power of compelling the landlords of houses to drain into the sewers, Mr. Farey would have been silent upon that subject. As for the com plaint that the City Solicitor had caused the door of the Black Boy and Camel, leading into the market, to be shut up, that proceeding had not been resorted to with out very strong reasons for its adoption. Complaints had been made, as the Lord Mayor had intimated in his observations to Mr. Farey, that robberies were fre quently committed in the neighbourhood, and according to the evidence of the ward beadle, a thief, who had stolen a goose in Lt , adenhall-market, had easily escaped pur suit by running through Mr. Farey's house. Now, it was not difficult to understand that a means of commu nication such as Mr. Farey's house with its two doors presented might be applied to the purposes of ingenious persons in a way not iikdy to be profitable to the trades men in the market. It had been insinuated that the Corporation were infu•'nced against the proprietor o the Black Boy and Camel by the fear of the con• sequences likely to arisJ to a house of their own - - 'rum an act of justice. The house to which Mr. Farey alluded was a tea and coffee-shop in the mar- Ica, and a pump was kept clot.e to it at the back of Mr. Farey'_hJuse, to which pump several (&-males were in the habit of going for water, and it was considered amongst other objections that it would not be altogether proper to have the back entrance to a public house opening upon such an engine of public convenience. Now, Mr. Farey had had due notice to block up the door of coin munication which he had opened without the permission of the magistrates. He had declined to do ao, and the Corporation had done it for him.—(A laugh.) The official referees who had been applied to on the subject had decided against him, and, in truth, the only com plaint he could fairly Make was, that he had not been treated with all the justice which the law awarded to persons similarly situated, for the Act of Parliament said, that if; upon being called upon to shut up a prohi bited door, a defendant did not, within a certain time, comply with the order, the business should be done for him, and he should be made answerable for the expenses. It was not his practice, in cases in which a compulsory course was considered necessary, to charge the expenses incurred, but certainly the conduct of Mr. Farey was calculated to make one regret that he had been included in the exemption. The LORD MAYOR said, he was convinced when Mr. Farey was stating to him what had taken place that a complete refutation would be given to all the assevera tions. He knew that the Commissioners of Sewers were a most indefatigable Board, and he plainly saw that Mr. Farey would not take advantage of the opportunity of draining into the common sewer. The City Solicitor said, Mr. Farey complained vio lently of being poisoned by the cesspool, and intimated that he wanted to open the door into the market to get rid of the nuisance. That was a mere pretence. There aß w n a ud s t, ahi if he hionebdjpoelweetaoswveeis to the pla ce i n w hi c h the d oor h a d b een, hmight the commandmake t windowhato of the market.la t. e It was abs ur d to say h t e hat there did not exist the greatest facilities for getting rid of c t o h m at m bd ai whi c h Mr. Farey said alreadyoners of Sewers had he was offended. The within a very narrow compass and 48 miles of if to people sewers at the expense of about 300,00 would not go to the expense of making drainn municate with these sowers, why they musts takenntnhle. consequences. If Mr. Farey were to be p erm i tted - open a door into the market, what between otum•bus cads in the front of his house and mar k et cads at the back of his house, the neighbourhood would be in a very agreeable condition. The Loan MAYoR—I certainly am of opinion, Mr ; i Solicitor, that the course you have pursued n shutting • up the door by quiet compulsion was most judicious, and I think that if you should have, upon any emer gency, something of the kind to do, it might be advisable to charge the defendant with the expenses.—(A laugh.) GUILDHALL: Yesterday Sir Peter Laurie attended to learn what progress the drivers and guards of the late Parcel Post Company had made in recovering their deposits and wages from the directors. He presumed some compro • mise had taken place, as he did not see the same parties before him now as on the former occasion. He made a suggestion that, as the directors offered one week's wages and the men claimed six weeks', the point should be given up on obtaining the proper amount of four weeks. He asked Mr. Humphreys if he had seen the deposit -note on which the claim was founded? Mr. Humphreys said he had, and proceeded to read one— " Your testimonials having been submitted to the board of directors, and you having deposited £— as security for your integrity, you are elected to this establishment. The deposit of £— is returnable to you any day you leave the company's office. "J. T. GOUGH, Secretary." Sir PETER said, this mode of raising the wind wz.s most disreputable to any concern, and especially to a company which professed to raise a capital of 30,0001. A guard stated, that at a grand dinner given at the Bridge-house Hotel (which was not yet paid f ,r) the directors bragged a great deal of th,-ir means, and of having paid the tailor and other preliminary expenses. He would not have ventured to deposit a farthing but for these glowing accounts, and the assurance that his 101. would not be used by the company, but would rest at the bankers', and that interest would be allowed upon it. "I was told the same !" shouted a man in the crowd. " And so was I !" cried a third. Mr. Humphreys read over the list of directors, and asked which of them was present at that dinner? Mr. W. Andrews, of Cadogan-plrce, was stated to be, in the chair, and he was supported by Messrs. Parry, Ashley, Hill, Hawker, Owen, and Ancram. A guard said, the catching deposits was not the only means of raising money adopted. The company sold stamps, to be affixed like Post-office labels to the parcels, and got the persons who received parcels for the com pany to purchase a stock of them, which now were of no value, and which the company were in no hurry to take back. A person in the crowd said he had 51. worth of these stamps. It was stated, in answer to a question, that one or other of the directors was always with the secretary when he received the deposits from the guards and drivers. Mr. Humphreys thanked the Alderman for his atten tion to the claims of these poor men, and the parties withdrew. The room was crammed with drivers, guards, clerks, porters, and keepers of receiving houses. MARLBORO UGH- S TI?EE7'. Edward Larkin and John Dower, two lads, were charged with having attempted a robbery in the house of Mr. Edward Simpson, licensed victualler, 231, Ox ford -street. Thomas Agness said, he was in Oxford-street last Saturday afternoon, when he saw the two prisoners to gether, one of whom carried a long stick, the end of which was daubed with tar. He watched the movements of the prisoners, and followed them into Mr. Simpson's house, and heard them call for some beer. They were served and they were left alone in front of the bar. One of the prisoners then got upon a bench, and with his stick attempted to reach a sovereign which was placed on a shelf within the bar; but, in his efforts to fix it to the stick, by means of the adhesive substance at the end, the sovereign was knocked off the shelf, and the noise thus made attracted the attention of the landlady in the bar parlour, who came out to see what was the matter. Wit ness immediately acquainted her with what had taken place, and on looking on the floor the sovereign was found with a portion of tar adhering to it, and there was also some tar on the shelf from which it had been dis placed. While the stick holder was busied in his attempt to get the money his companion held him up, and gave him all the assistance in his power. Mrs. Simpson corroborated the testimony of the last witness as far as related to the attempts of the prisoners to get the sovereign. The prisoners were fully committed. THE MURDER AT NORWOOD. The name of the wretched man who committed mur der and suicide at Norwood, as reported in our paper yesterday, was James, not John, Young, and his age was twenty-seven years_ He married the unfortunate victim of his violence upwards of two years ago; she ha. , l three children by him, two of whom died shortly after their birth. For some time past he had behaved in an eccentric manner, but nothing elangerous VI as appre hended in his conduct until last Christm,:s, when he showed evident signs of mental aberration. Mr. Chap man, a medical man in the neighbourhood, was con sulted, and prescribed for him, and advised filet he should be looked after, as he considered he might inflict injury on those around him. His wife, who was greatly attached to him, objected to his being placed utal.?r re straint, and expressed her conviction that he would I neither hurt her or himself. It appears that a young man lodged in the house with him, and slept there o n every night but Saturday ni g ht ; had he been at home, he might probably have rescued the victims from the unhappy maniac. When Young returned borne cn Saturday night, he was so unwell that a medical gentle man was called in to see him, who gave it as his opini o n that he ought t o be c l o s e ly watched. About thieeo clock on Sunday morning, Young and his wife were heard quarrelling by their servant-girl ; he asked fur some thing which she said she bad not got. Ho then flew into a passion, saying he knew she had got what he asked for, and he was determined to have it. He at the same time struck her, and she exclaim-d, " Ah! James, you know you ought not to have done this." The quarrel then ceased. James Pope, a journey man shoemaker, in the employment of Mr. Quy, of No. 7, High-street, Norwood, next door to the house in which the murder was committed, was awakened about ten minutes past 6 o'clock on Sunday morning by the screams of a woman. He immediately got up and, with Mr. Manshe, who lives at No. 5, knocked at the door of Young, which was opened by the servant-girl, wbo, in answer to their gig stion, " What is the matter?" replied, she did not know, but thought her master was killing Mrs. Young. They saw bleed dripping down the stairs, and Mrs. Young lying with her feet on the stairs, and her head on the landing-place, bleeding from a wound in the throat; there was a cut on the throat and another at the back of the neck. His (James Pope's) impression is, that Young first cut his wife's throat in the bedroom; that she crawled to the top of the stairs, and screamed for help until she became exhausted; he recollects the scream growing fainter until it died away. Upwards of two minutes elapsed after he heard the first scream be fore he got into the house. Whilst Pope and Manshe were on the landing place, Young came out of the bed room; they then ran down stairs and went for a police man and a doctor. No person saw Young cut his throat as he did it before any one returned to the house. It further appears that shortly before six o'clock on Sun day morning Mrs. Young called the servant-girl up and told her to get breakfast ready; whilst the• girl was lighting the fire she heard Mr. Young ask for something, to which his wife replied, " My dear, I have not got any." He said, " You have;" a scuffle ensued, and her mistress endeavoured to call her by name, but could not; fearing that he was ill-using her, she ran out and called at Mr. Quy's house. The scuffle was the fatal repetition of the quarrel which the girl heard at three o'clock the same morning. The inquest will be held this evening. THE JUDGES AND CORPORATION AT ST. PAUL'S.— On Sunday, it being the first in term, the judges and civic corporation went in state to St. Paul's Cathedral, where they attended Divine service. There were present Lord. Denman, Sir Thomas Wilde, Lord Chief J ust i ce of the Court of Common Ple as; Mr. Baron Parke, Mr. Baron Al derson, Mr. Justice Patteson, Mr. Baron Rolfe, Mr. Justice Cresswell, Mr. Justice Vaughan Williams, Mr. Sergeant Wilkins, Mr. Sergeant Chadwick Jones, Mr. Sergean Man ning, the Lord Mayor (with his chaplain, the Rev. H. E. C. Cobden, M.A.), Alderman Farelirother, Alderman Sir Chap man Marshall, Alderman Kelly, Alderman Hughes Hughe,, Alderman Farncoinlp, Alderman and S;ieriti Challis, Mr. Sheriff Kennard, the Recorder, Mr. Cosimissioner Bullock, and a large nweber ot members of the Gennion Come ; the Lord Bishop of London. the Lod Bi-:hop et Llaileaff (Dean of St. Paul's). the Lod Bishop of Oxtord, the Vesierable William Nile Hale, M.A., Archdeacon of London; the Venerable Archdeacon IL Wilberforce, the Honouraiile an, H. Montague Villiers, M.A., Rector ot St. , eorge's, Bloomsbury, and Canon Residentiary or St. Paul's; the 11 , ,v. James Endell Tyler, R. D., Rector of St. Giles's and Canon Residentiary of St. Paul's; the Rev. T. Boyle Murray; thz Rev. 11. Browne; the Rev. W. J. Hall, and several other clergymen in their robes. Full choral service was per formed, and a sermon preached by the Lord BL, , hop of Lon don, who selected for his text the tenth verse of the second chapter of the general epistle by St. James—" Whoever keepeth the whole law, and yet offendeth in one point is guilty of all. The Right Rev. Prelate dwelt on the nature of sin, exposed the destination drawn by the Roman Catholic Church between moral and venial sins, and impreuively set forth the efficacy of true repentance. At the close of the sermon the procession left the cathedral in the order in which it had entered FIRE NEAR WESTMINSTER ABBEY. Yesterday morning, at three o'clock a fire, attended with serious de struction of property, broke out in a large building known as the Prince of Wales beer-shop, the property of Mr. E. Underwood, 10, Princes-street, Westminster, nearly facing the Abbey. A police-constable'of the B division , . passing the premises, first discovered the fire, by perceiving . flames issuing through the b ar s h u tt ers . Th e constable ra ised an immediate alarm, and after considerable trouble the inmates were aroused from their slumbers, but such a firm hold the flames had obtained, that none of the residents were able to escape by the staircase. By great perseverance the whole of the parties succeeded in effecting a safe retreat from the blazing premises by the back windows. Although the fire men exerted themselves to the utmost, they were unable to get the fire extinguished until the whole of the stock in the building was destroyed, and the premises nearly gutted. SUDDEN DEATH OF MR. ARNOTT, o r CHATHAM DOCKYARD.-711r. Carter yesterday held an inquiry at the Clayton Arms, Kennigton-oval, on the body of Mr. Robert Arnott, aged 70, master carpenter of the dockyard at Chat ham. Susan Austen, housemaid to Edward Russell, Esq., 24, Kennington-oval, stated that the deceased had been staying with Mr. Russell on a visit, Mrs. Russell being his daughter. On Friday he bad been out in the f orenoon , and was apparently well. In the evening, about seven o'clock, she was called down stairs, and then found the deceased lying on his back, and quite dead. He had apparently been in the act of smoking a pipe, for he had one lighted in his hand. She sent the groom for Mr. Duke, the surgeon, of Harleyford-place, who came immediately, but his skill was of no avail. Mr. Arnott's son said his father had come up f tor r t o w m aauctanw c t es dEpo n eErtr a a :lintti c a e m for a change of air, and he considered he had been declining in health. Verdict—" Natural death." arelGna last getting ntaw l t i G efdna rthi ne N gk e t ttml oetFgr this h pe r r iTiacsHbe TlMESwEusoiride.all.— p a tamerllSet huao . virwl rtin for rse e rnoe ft agents webs, G a ap two pencesya RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. LIVERPOOL, Aram 19. STOCK EXCHANGE.-There has been a very small business done to-day. As regards prices we consider them to be pretty firm, especially when compared with th e l as t f ew days. On he part of sellers there is a reluctance to accept the prices offered. The sales are-Ambergate, Notting ham, and Boston, 1.4 dis.-Eastern Counties, 18 3 4 -Eaat Lancashire New (scrip), % p.--. Leeds and Thirsk, New, 2 1 ,8 dis.-Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport, 1 3 4 p.-London and North-Western, 171 Ls-Manchester and Leeds, 32/. Shares (late Extension), 1 1 ,-4 p.-Ditto, Halves (late Liverpool and Bury), 3 p.-Ditto, Fifths (West Riding Union), 7 / q p.- Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, 88 1 / 2 -Midland Stock, 115 1 ,4-Ditto, New, 2/. Gs. 3d. p.-North Stafford shire, 2N, p.-North-Western,'ll% dis.-Preston and Wy re , 3 4 / 2 -Shr e w s b ury, Oswestry, and Chester, 2 1 4 dis.-Shrews bury and Birmingham (B), tg dis. ex int.-South-Eastern, No. 4, Thirds, IA p.- York and Newcastle, Preference, 31 / 8 p. MANCHESTER, APRIL 19. STOCK EXCILANGK.-The sales are-Ambergate, Notting ham, Boston, and Eastern Junction, 3 / 4 -East Lancashire (late B. aad P.), New (scrip), 7-16-Fieetwood, Preston, and West Riding Junct., 11-16-llndilerstisld and Manchester Rai!way alit Canal, 1 - 1 Wt.), Thirds, 14?-.Alanchester and Leeds, Halves, 11. and S., 'N ) -Di 32/. Shares (late Ex- t;I:sion), 112-Ditto, Fiftlis (late West Riding Union), -Manchester, Sheffield. and Lincolnshire, Eighths, 134- Mancheste7 and Southampton, 191.- North British, Ex tension, lls. 91-North Staff irdshire, 21 4 -Oldham Alliance, 14-South-Eastern aad Dover, No. 3, I / i v -Ditto, No. 4, L AS South Staffordshire, W. LEEDS, Amt. 19. STOCK. ENCRAN(IE. -The sales are-Ambergate, Notting ham. and 16:. dlis.-East Lineasiiir-, New, 7s. (11. p.-Ditto, New Scrip. Bs. P.-East and West Yorkshire, Bs. 63. dis.-Iludderstield and Manchester. Tiiirds, 10s. p. - Leeds and Bradford, 43 1 ,4 . p.-Leeds and Dewsbury, 3 p.- Ditto, Branches (blue), 2% p.-Leeds and Thirsk, 3 4 dis. -Ditto, Preterence, 16s. p.-London and Brighton and South Coast, 52 1 ,i-Dittn, Fifteenths, 2s. Ed. and Dritlield Junction, Is. 6d. dis.-111ancbester and Leeits, Fifths, 4% p.-Ditto, 321. Shares (late Extensions), 28s. 63. p.-lii!to, West Riding Union, 14s. p.-Newcastle and Berwick, New, 2 1-16 p.-North British, Thirds, 41s. 6d. p.-Ditto, Extension (scrip), 9i. 6d. p.-North Stafford. shire. 2 1 4 p.-Northern Counties Union, 2 1 4 dis.-North. Western, 1% dis. -York and North Midland, Exteneion,39 3 4. SHEFFIELD, APRIL 19. STOCK EXCHANGE.-The sales are-Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire (Grimsby and Sheffield), dis.-Ditto, 20/. Shares, 465. dis.-Ditto, 12/. 10s. Shares, 1% dis.- .nidiand, New, 2 1 4 p.-Ditto (Sheffield and Rotherham), 32 4-West Riding Union, 7 8 p. EDINBURGH, APRIL 17. STOCK RXCIIANGE -The sales are - Caledonlan, New, 455. 6d.-Edniburg,h, Leith, and Granton, Quarters, 13s. 6d. -Edinburgh and Northern, New, 743. Ed.-Ditto, New port, 7% -Edinburgh and Perth, 589 . -Ditto Halves, 20s. Ed.-North British, Quarters, 71s. Ed.-Ditto, New Quarters (scrip), 245. 6d.-Ditto, Thirds, 62 3.-Direct Bom. bay and Madras, 3s. 6d. SUSPECTED DEATU FROM STARVATION IN ST. PA/WA...S.—Yesterday (Monday) morning, between the hours of one and two o'clock, a woman, name unknown, was admitted into the University College Hospital under the rfol lowing distressing circumstances :—lt appe ars t h at at the rSlns w oa n d il , his atten tionehad passing along h t imseb suddenlye a a l t l a i d n ed s e t y o i , n police-constableouattracted Seymour-street, fstrebeyt , theiHampstead-road, a fma tp 2 l st 3 t O ge aoda of a poor creature lying on the pavement, near the Coronatio n pu bli c-house, in the above street, and shivering with c o ld. On appreaching her he found her in a very exhausted state, and she appeared as if on the brink of death from the want of food and nourishment. She was in tlse most filthy plight, being liter ally covered with a few dirty rags, and was reduced to such a state of weakness as scarcely to be able to articulate. She said she had had no food for several days, and the policeman, assisted by another constable, conveyed her to the above in stitution, when she was atterded to by Mr. Cadge, the night-surgeon, who pronounced her to b e i n a d y i ng state. She was so exhausted as to be unable to take any nourish ment, and notwithstanding all the care and attention paid her, she expired in an hour and a quarter after her admission. The deceased appears to have been about 55 years of age, and has all the appearance of having died from want and des titution. THE ALLEGED MURDER IN STEPNEY.—Yesterday, the adjourned inquiry was resumed and concluded before Mr. William Baker, coroner, at the Grave Maurice, White chapel-road, respecting the death of William Bridge, a painter, aged 64 years, who died in the London Hospital, on Sunday, the 11th inst., from a rupture in the bladder, alleged to have beet occasioned by a female named Mary Burns, in the Artichoke beer-shop, Jubilee -street, Stepney, on Thursday evening, the Ist instant. Mr. Buchanan, a soli citor, attended for the accused. It was alleged by three witnesses, who were present during the affray, that the woman Burns stamped three times upon the deceased while he.was lying upon the it..or, and that she wore a pair Of wooden clogs with iron round the soles at the time she did so. The deceased afterwards complained of severe pains in his stomach and abdomen, and was removed to the London Hos pital, where he expired on Sunday, the 11th inst. Mr. John Nash, house surgeon to the London Hospital, attributed death to a rupture of the bladder. It might have been pro duced by a kirk or a fill against some pointed. substance. A girl, named Eleanor Holmes, sister to the female Burns, was examined at great I , ngth, and she en'irely contradicted the statements made by the previous witnesses. Site stated that several men were in the top-room, very much intoxi cated, anti they e4mrnenceql alrusirig the deceased, who was also drunk. Her :sister entered the room and advised him to leave the house. are man, named Haynes, struck her sister, and the deceased also struck and kicked her on the right leg. He was about to kick her again, and he fell side ways over a chair with great violence. She did not see her sister kick the deceased at all, and she was quite certain her sister did not wear any clog boots that. day. Jane Storey, of No. 3, Henry-street, Jubilee -street, Stepney, stated that she was present during the altercation between the deceased and Mary Burns. The deceased was sitting in a chair when Burns entered the room, and endeavoured to eject the old. man from the house. She kicked him on the leg, and then dragged him from his chair. He fell upon the floor from her violence, and she stamped upon the lower part of his sto mach. She was desired to desist, and she then left the room. In answer to questions by the coroner, the witness said that the female Holmes was not present during the affray, and that Burns did wear a pair of clog boots on that day. The Coroner then summed up at great length, and the jury, after a short consultation, returned a verdict of " Maneaughter against Mary Burns." The witnesses were then bound ove r t o prosecute. Burns will be brought up before the magistrates at the Thames Police Court on Thursday next, when she will be fully committed to take her trial at the Central Criminal Court, for the manslaughter of the deceased. THE TIBBENHAM POISONINGS.—The uncertainty and mystery originally attached to these cases seem to be disappearing, and the real facts gradually, though slowly, unfolding themselves ; and there is some probability that the whole truth may yet be discovered. Though the cause of death seemed at tirst uncertain, the chymical tests applied by Mr. Firth left no doubt of that being poison ; but at the adjourned inquest, though the strong probability was that this had been feloniously administered, there might be some doubt remaining, considering the quantity of poison that was proved to be about the house for the purpose of destroying the mice, whether some of this might not accidentally hav e got mixed with the water in the pail or the tea-kittle, and so have undesignedly caused the deplorable consequences which followed. Subsequent discoveries, however, have set this at rest, and it is now placed beyond a doubt that this poison has been given by desi gn . Th e Jury re-assembled on Thursday last to inquire by themselves into the new facts the case pre sented, but they examined no witnesses, nor was the court opened. It is not considered prudent at present to say 'who has fallen under suspicion; but it may be said, that other poison has been found mixed up and secreted in a bottle and buried two feet beneath the surface of the soil in a gard en. Every Every exertion is being made to discover the these appalling murders, and, it is said, wi l h ro m ul e d%o a lity of success, but no one is apprehended. t. se rious public evil for such a case to go undetected' perpetrmallbif SOCIETY OF GUARDIANS FOR THE PROTECTION OF TRADE. This society was instituted in 1776, in the city of London, for the protection of trade from the frauds of the swindler, who, by means of its machinery, has been often thwarted in his nefarious plots, and deprived of the ill-gotten gains which formerly he was wont con fidently to count his own. The members and their friends of this worthy society, in celebration of their success, and to cheer each other for the toils of the future, sat down to dinner to the numb er o f a b out 70, is the London Tavern, Bishopsgate-street, last evening; Alderman Farebrother, the president of the society, in the chair. Of the dinner we need say no more than that it was most excellent in all that went to make up the comple ments of good fare, enjoyment, and hearty conviviality. The stewards had done so well their part, and the ser vants so satisfactorily did theirs, that any fault, if such existed, must be attributed to the individual knife anti fork. The singing, which was of a very high character, was conducted with great ability, under the superin tendence of Mr. Bruton, by Messrs. Genge, Turner, and Simmons. After dinner the " Non Nobis" was sung by Messrs. GengP, Turner, and Simmons with good effect. Thv following toasts and songs were then received with applause Queen"—National Anthem; "Queen Dowager, Prince Albert, Albert, Prince of Wales, and the Royal Fa,tuily"—song, "Here'. a health to the Prince and die Queen ;" " The Navy and Artri"—glea, " How merrily we live that Soldiers be!" " The City of London, its Trade, and the Corporation," conw-ctcd with the name of Mr. Adlard"—song, " The bootie r,ws." The CHAtrkIAN, in drinking the health of Rowland Hill, Esq., who sat on his right, paid a high compliment to that gentleman for the universal benefit which had arisen from the scheme of postage which that gentleman had. originated, awl which had very much aided the ob jects of the society. Mr. HILL, in reply, referred to the progress of the Post-office, and said that the first petition in favour of reform in that department was taken up and encouraged by the city of London, and prosecuted by Lord Ashbur ton. Till that time no thought of improvement or reform in the department had ever occurred. But reform hav ing been adopted, the increase of the letters bad been so great, that while the whole of the letters passing through the post-office of Belgium was 6,000,000 per annum, the number of letter. for London and its immediate environs was 75,000,000. That would show that the correspon dence of even the metropolis alone, much more of the country itself, was of importance to the universal world. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by thanking the com pany for the honour they had done him. The CHAIRMAN gave " The Prosperity of the Society for the Protection of Trade." He felt it unnecessary to enlarge on benefits which they all acknowledged, which they all expected, and which they well knew they had all enjoyed. In the course of the evening one of the guests an officer of the society, stated that one firm had been saved through the means of the society to the amount of 3001, another of 1501, and another of 5001. Song—" The man with the beard," a comic effusion, by J. H. Dixon, Esq., in which was detailed the adven tures of a well-known character, whose portrait had been lithographed by the society, the original being celebrated not only for his light .fingership, but also for his unusual beard. J. H. GASSIOT, Esq., proposed " The health of the Chairman." Other toasts followed, and Messrs. Bruton, Genge, and Simmons enlivened the company throughout the evening with songs of a comic but appropriate character. About ten o'clock, when the spirit of hilarity was high, the Chairman retired, all being in the very best spirits. IMPERIAL PA R LAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, April 19. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool sack at Five o'clock. The Earl of EGLINTON presented a petition from the malt distillers of the west of Scotland against the Customs Duties, and praying that they might be allowed a drawback equal to the difference in the duty on rum and spirits. The Earl of WALSINGHAM presented a petition against the law of settlement. The Earl of CLANCARTY presented a petition, praying for poor relief in Ireland. The Noble Lord, who was very inaudible, was understood to say that the present question was one that required considerable con sideration. There could be no doubt that there were many obstacles with which those who were unacquainted with the subject could have no conception. Several Bills were brought up from the Commons, and read a first time, GOVERNMENT EDUCATION PLAN. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from the Protestant Dissenters of Reading., Banbury, and Abing ,lon, against th e Government scheme of education. In doing so he wished to ask his Noble Fricnd what was the reasr n of the change which the Corn • mittee of Education had decided upon since the plan of 1839. He could only say that the accession of the 'Dissenters would be obtained by some such system being adopted as the plan of 1839. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that in the plan of 1839, and of that subsequently propounded in 1841, it was fully intended that the Scriptures should be made a part of the system of education; but so much of opposi tion had been shown that it was determined that none but the authorised version of the Scriptures should, he adopted; but the reception of the system was to be left optional. Lord BROUGHAM had always been a party to any thing than the use of the authorised version, and he believed that no school would be allowable without the use of Scriptural instruction, and the reply therefore was no answer to his question. The Noble Marquis had stated that none but the authorised and regular version was to be used. But it should be , recollected that there was one version used in England, and another in Scotland. In England there were but two schools which would require Government assist ance, though in Scotland there would be more, and in Ireland, in all probability, there would be many who would have a right to this aid. The question, there fore, came with great force as to what was the autho rised version of the Scriptures. There was the Catholic version, and there was the Protestant version, but be was atonished that any question should be raised about either in this year, not of 1447, or 1547, but in the year 1847; and he regretted that in this year there should be mixed up on this great question the broiling spirit of bigotry on both sides. Lord BEAUMONT wished to ask what was the system which the Government intended to pursue. No other minute existed but that which bore date the 3d of December, 1839. There was no other published but tha , , and he thought it would require some igenuity to construe that minute into the meaning given to it by the Noble Marquis, namely, that one particular version of the Scriptures must be used in its integrity, and the words used in their minutes were portions of the Old and New Testament. Now that formed a great objection to Catholics attending these schools. It was a great source of regret to him that the explanation of the Noble Lord was calculated to create still further sectarian divisions and dislike to spiritual education. He hod hoped to see under the same roof, and instructed by the same masters, and inspected by the same men, both Catholics and Protestants receiving education together, and by that means, in course of time, to do away with that ill feeling which resulted from sectarian differences. The question he wished to ask. therefore, from the Noble Marquis was this—Was there any other minute, any unpublished minute, with regard to the use of the autho rised version of the Scriptures besides the minute dated the 3d December, 1839? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was understood to say, that there was no minute which would bear the construction put upon it by the Noble Lord He wished to state that the general observation that had been made had reference, not to the authorised version of the Scriptures, but with reference to Roman Catholic schools, judgment only would be delivered when a fur ther amount of knowledge was obtained. He had hoped that no objection would have been made to the measure of the Government. Lord BROUGHAM bagged to explain. His Noble Friend had altogether misunderstood him. It' the au thorised version of the Scriptures were read in the schools the Catholics would not receive it. Earl RADNOR made a few observations. OXFORD AND BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY. Lord LYNDHURST, who was very - imperfectly heard, was understood to refer to the Committee of Inquiry which had been recently appointed on this railway, and to state that he had been considering the objection which had been made as to the propriety of discontinuing the labours of that Committee, in consequence of the matters in dispute between the North-Western and Great Western Railway Companies being still pending in the Court of Chancery, and was of opinion that the inquiry should not be abandoned. Lord REDESDALE said that he was not in the House when the Committee was appointed, otherwise he would have opposed the motion, as he thought that the prin ciple which it reeogniseta was a dangerous one, and that the House should not interfere with legal possession of property. With these few remarks he should con clude, and if there was any oppcsition to his motion, he should not feel justified in pushing the matter to a deci sion before their Lordship*. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that it was right to state to their Lordships' that the question which had been raised in the Court of Chancery, and which was now pending before him, wa•, as to who were the legal directors of the Oxford and Birmingham Railway. This question would, in all probability be decided in the course of the presAit week, and he thought, therefore, that it would nut be wise in their Lordships to come to a decision which might, very probably, interfere with the jurisdiction of a court of law. It would seem admirable to him, therefore, to postpone the considera tion of the matter until after the decision of the Court of Chancery. Lord LYNDHURST said that the Vice-Chancellor had come to a decision that the directors, who had been elected in October, should go out in October, and it seemed, therefore, desirable on all hands, that their Lord ships should not interfere, while the matter was pending in the Court of Chancery. The matter then dropped. GOVERNMENT EDUCATION SCHEME. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented petitions in favour of the plan for Mansfield, Bridgewater, and a great number of other places; as also several against it. Lord BROUGHAM wished to inquire what deter mination the Government had come to respecting the use of the auth , rised version of the Scriptures. He also wished to inquire whether there was any change in the Minutes of Council of 1839; and suggested that such alteration would materially aff.ct the votes of the House of Commons. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said there had been no change whatever in the Minutes of Council; for, with respect to the authorised version, the rule was sufficiently established; and with respect to the money that was necessary to carry the plan out, the House of Commons would at all times have the means at their command for directinc , it, and could bring their influence to bear upon it from year to year. Lord BROUGHAM believed that the Ministry would not surely take any step in so important a matter without the sanction of Parlinmt Tit. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE conceived that as the whole of the plan would yearly be subjected to the consideration of the House of Commons, that it was un necessary to bring it in, in any other shape, before their Lordships. POOR-LAW. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he had another petition to present, which was of a very different character. It was against the Poor-law Removal Bill, and he would take that opp)rtunity of stating that as there were two 13;.11s bearing upon this subject, one for the extension of the poor-law in Ireland, and the other to enable landed proprietors to dispose of their estates with more facility than they now possessed, which might pos sibly clash with cacti other, he proposed to take the second reading of thorn both on the same day, and would therefore fix thew tOr Thur. , ;day next. Coal STANLEY:presented several petitions, both for and against the Irish poor-law. The Earl of RADNOR pre:anted several petitions against the Government scheme of education. Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented four petitions to the same effect. CUSTOM DUTIES. MARINE MUTINY BILL. This Bill went through (4,iFimittee, and the report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow (this day). Several Bills were advanced a stage, and their Lord ships adjourned. The Earl of EGLINTON moved for certain re turns connected with the Custom Duties, which were agreed to. CASE OF CATHERINE FOSTER. The Marquis of WESTMEATH said he wished to direct the attention of the Government to the execu tion of an unfortunate woman on Saturday last, at Bury St. Edmunds. It appeared from the newspapers that upwards of 10,000 persons were present. The execution was conducted in such a manner as to pro-. long the sufferings of the unfortunate creature for a considerable space of time ; and the assemblage of per sons were so struck and horrified at the circumstance, that they called out shame, shame, mur d er, murder'. He was one of those persons who unfortunately thought that this mode of punishing crime ought to be conti nued, but still he thought the sufferings of the unfortu nate beings who came to those untimely ends should not be protracted by the carelessness or brutality of the exe cutioner. A short time ago a similar case to this oc curred, and on its being brought under the attention of the Right lion. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department, a promise was given that the matter should be looked into, and measures taken to prevent a recurrence of such a proceeding. Many years ago he was quartered in the town of Sligo when an unfortunate man was brought out for execution. The drop being exceedingly high, the rope broke, and the man in fell into the street, breaking bp g th that e slate he fracturing several of his ribs, and occurred in the was carried up again, and the sethitaeyrniecnteglnof the law exe cuted upon him. A similar cas e e proper occasion very heart of the kin gdoanills hupetnhouttigehtGitowrearsnarn occasion upon which toc take steps to prevent a A. recurrence of such scenes. NS . DOWNE said Government The Marquis L to be made into the cir would cause a careful inquiry H„ agreed, with his Noble Friend that, cumstsTcwe:. s n ec4-segry to continue this mode of punish lit ou ght to be carried out with all due solemnity while it and caution. The subject then dropped. MUTINY BILL. This Bill went throagh Committee, and the report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow (this day). given aottice t to the Noble Lord at the head of the Go vernment. It is of some importance. and may materially ' effect the discussion of this measure. The q uestionl hare to put to the N o bl e L or d a t th e h ea d of the Govern ment,_.s and of whi c h I h ave sent hi m a co py, is to this HO effect:—l may fi rs t s t ate t h at t h ere i s a rum our prev: i ; The SPEAKER took the Chair at F our 0 clock. made between the Governeneet and the Wesley ail Corns GLASGOW, PAISLEY. AND GREENOCK • fo r aside the pPo'it iun mittees, the purpose o f sett in g RAILWAY. Mr. HASTIE presented six petitions against the f o r the G , ' h feducation' I thin which is intended to be made by the Wesleyans to the k grant et% rnment sc eme of Glasgow, Pa stet, and Greenock Railway. read a , PRIVATE BUSINESS, that the best mode in which Ivan bring the question bsfore Mr. GEEENE moved that this house will not re- the House, I * h ' to this ceive a petition against a railway Bill after Monday the e ,per stiete i , s roi t r;by the Wesleyans, and a tic Is ' e l it. Oa :C..,Unt of an important commuoicatien from statement which appears in . a 3d day of May next, unless the petitioners shall coin- plain of any m a tt er w hi c h may have arisen durin tee high sources exeressing a desire, without any solicit,t g Lion on our Pert, to e nt er i nto a negetretion with progress of the Bill before the Committee on the Bill. regard to this scheme, we have kelt: d it ex- That, from and after the said 3d day of May next, the .elient to direct a Committee, scheme, in order that no whams Committee of Classification be empowered to refer to the ,},,,standingitaket may place on stele to Chairman of the Committee of Ways and Means, toge- a communication with the Government with regard to ther with the Members ordered to prepare and bring in the objections felt by the Wesleyans to the Minutes of the Bill, such unopposed Bills as they shall deem it de -strong (;,,until, and oil which we have stated, in sirahle so to refer.—Agreed to, them• bat respectful language, our aversion to , , Dr. BOIVIt ENG presented a petition against the Bills An „th e i e t r , placing ept t has been received, of the Great Northern Railway Company,eiber, the present measure in a new light altog ~. REPORTS. and which, w e are h oun d to say, removes t" The reports on the following Rills w ere considered a , great d egree se rne of the m o st gr ave and insupera ble and agreed to, and the Bills ordered to be engrossed:— ehjections which, as consistent Wesleyans, the Commit; Derwen *Waterworks and Reservoirs Bill. te' s have urged. Now the statement made is this, and Newhaven harbour, Ouse Lower Navigation, and Lewes I wi s h to tali the attention of the Noble Lord and th e and Latighton Drainage. ; t Ouse to it. Official but private overtures have been Newmarket and Che e t e rf o rd Railway (Extension to made to the Wesleyans in London, offering these Thetford). concessions —first, t h a t th e G overnment ex hibition Newmarket and Chesterforl Railway (Extension to shall be made only to schools which use th e Bury St. Edmund's. with a Branch to Ely). authorised version of the Scriptures; next that the HOLYHEAD HARBOUR. Wesleyans be permitted to use their own catechism s ! Mr. WARD moved that the ord e r, that Viscount in schools devoted to the use of the Wesleyans, and that Morpeth, Mr. Ward, and Mr. Ow en Stanl e y be Mem- the instructors should be of the Wesleyan persuasion* lairs of the Select Committee on the Holyhead Har The question I have to put to the Government ie thiet_ hour Bill, be discharged. He made the moti on f i rst, whether this negotiation has been made to I p.' at the request of th e N o bl e L or d th e Member Wesleyans by Government, or any person authorised ly . for Liverpool, who was o f op i n i on t h at t h e appo i nt- the Government, and it such concessions are to °_`' meat of the Committee oug h t t o b e d e l aye d unt il made, whether the Roman Catholics are to have the like the report of the Commissioners, appointed to consider privilege? the subject, was before th e H ouse . H e s h ou ld l ay that Lord JOHN RUSSELL said—l must iay, 'ln the oth report on the table e ith er t o - morrow or next day. first place, in answer to the question of the R , e The motion was agreed t o . Member, that the communication with the Wesleyan LONDON, OXFORD, AND CHELTENHAM body was, as far as I know, not begun by any 'torso RAILWAY. authorised on the Go vernment. A Noble Mr. of the —_ Mr. C. BERKELEY move d t h a t t h e pet i t i on o f the Friend of mice, whose name (although I have Ito inhabitants of Chelt en h am , i n f avour of the London, authority to mention it) I may state to the He l l Oxford, and Cheltenham R a il way , an d aga i nst the Chel- —I mean Lord Ashley—understood from sense 0 tenham and Oxford Railway Bill, b e ref e rred to the the .Weslayan body that they were about to enter inW Committee on the Bill.—Agreed to. resolutions describing the character of the minute! FEES ON PRIVATE BILLS. in a way which was thought by him not aPP II- The SPEAKER said h e h a d t o acqua i nt t h e H ouse, cable to them. He told them that they had better asst that in accordance with the resol u ti on o f th e House, he until he should communicate with Lord Lansdowne en had caused a list of fees payable on private bills to be the subject, and thus through the secretary of the con - prepared. mittee of council get an ex pl anat i on on the su b' NEWMARKET AND CHESTERFORD RAILWAY ject. The secretary of the committee came to Lore BILL. Lansdowne and m ;self, and asked our intentions. This Bill, repealing the provision authorising the on the subject, we said that we should have no hesitati° ll , company to use the line of the East ern C ount i es R a i l• in answering any questions which the Wesleyans m:gbt way, was read a third time and passed. choose to put, and which might lead to a correct explas GOVERNMENT SCHEME OF EDUCATION. nation on the subject. Ido not know that any blame Mr. P. HOWARD presented two petitions from Car- can be attached to us inconsequence. —(Loud cheering.) lisle against the Government scheme of education. The first question was, whether any person, holding Mr. land to the HAS e I'IE p eff resented several petition s f rom S co t- ecclesiastical functions would be eligible to fiil the same ect. office of pupil teachers, and the answer we made Mr. THORNELY presented petitions from Devon- was, that they would not be eligible as pupil teachers• shire and North Wales to the same effect —(Loud cheers.) Th e next question was, whether the • Mr. W. PATTEN presented sever a l p et iti ons i n f avour authorised version of the Scriptures would be used in of the scheme, and two against it. schools ? On this subject, the resolution of the Com - Mr. R. CURRIE presented a petiti on f rom North- mit:a, dated the 3d Decsniber, 1839, in which reference amptonshire against the Government education a l scheme. was made to a previous resolueen, said that the condi- Mr. BAILEY presented petitions to the same effect* tion on which they would give assista n c e to schoo ls Mr. WILLIAMS present e d t wo pet i t i ons to the same would be that a daily portion of the Scrir effect. The Hon. Member also presented a petition tures should form a pertion of th e usua l exercis!, . from a person named Williams, com pl a i n i ng that the to the classes. The words " the daily r ea di n g of a Pe` e ' Irish Board of Works were guilty of jobbing practices tion of the Scriptures," was understood to mean the in connexion with their functions. authorised version of the Scriptures, and in the ssm e Mr. DUNCAN presented several petitions from Scot- report of 1839, it was stated that the intention of the land against the Government Scheme of Education. Committee with respect to the children 14 Roma n Petitions were also pre sen t e d aga i nst the measure by' Catholics was that the Dome).- version of the Bible shou ld Mr. Redhead Y o rk e , M r . P rot h eroe, M r. Huntley, be allowed. The next question was, whether the in- Mr. Brotherton, L or d C. Fit zroy , M r. G reene, by specters of the Wesleyan schoel m i g h t b. appointed not a_ Mr. Walker, Mr. Gish orne u p war d s of 20 petitions, M r . from the Wesleyan body, but with tneic concurrence ? Godson, and Mr. Sharman Crawfo r d, 26 petitions from The Hon. Gentleman stated that they had hitherto re- Wesleyans and others from R oc hd a l e . 0 calved assistance throu g h the British and I'ore4_ Mr. HINDLEY al t o p resen t e d 7 0 0 pet i t i ons f rom School Society, and they said that it would be far more various places. agreeable to their feelin gs an d th e c onstitution Petitions in favour of th e measure were presente d b y of their Society if the Committee on educa .. Mr. Seymer, Mr. Finch, Mr. Greene, Mr. Ainsworth, ti on wo u ld recognise the We s l e ''. yan body directly Mr. Hudson, from Sunderland ; Dr. B owr i ng , M r . I admit that, according to that arrangement, they were Stewart, Mr. Beckett, Mr. Brooke, and Lord H. Vane, not parties which, according to the minute., were Mr. MILES presented several petitions from places in entitled to assistance from the grant. With re- Somersetshire in favour o f th e sc h eme. Bard to the exclusion of the Roman COl°lies _ Mr. G. BERKELEY p resente d pet i t i ons from Glou- frorn the grant, it was no new q uestiout - cestershire against the Gover nmen t p l an . a I d o Ever since 1839 such has been the policies, an Mr. ROEBUCK p resen t e d two pet i t i ons from Bath not know ot any _ grant s. having been made to Row against the scheme. Catholic schools exclusively as such. The question is, Mr. E. DENISON present e d o ne in favour and elle therefore left as I I) e 11,- far as Roman Catholics are it ( r . came to against ; as also did Mr. HA YTER. concerned. When the Romtsit Catholic B 1) the Go- • Mr. T. DUNCOMBE s a id h e h a d fr em 300 to 400 the Government and atilt for assistancesi from ive attt ntion petitions to present from various parts of the country verninstit grant it will be time enough , g against the s c h eme —fo ur or five o f which, were to the matter. At present there was considerablelß (F I peculiarly deserving the attention of the House, as tufty in tweaking such a grant ont account of many they were of a diff erent c h aracter to the generality of of the teachers in Roman Catholic schools being in holy . them. One was agree d to at a pu b lic meeting of the orders, and might be suppose dto use their functions as inhabitants of Meidstotie, objecting to the scheme as tetchers to proselytize their pupils. W it h regar d to t he ,it %ill unconstitutional ; another agreed to at a public meeting, grant for the present fore. held on Saturday last, at Remseate, dspreeating the as the last. viz., 100.000/.. anti it will he aprlied as before' House proceeding to decide on the scheme with haste, GOVERNMEN I PLAN OF EDUCATION. and in favour et his (M r . D uncem b e e s ) mot i on f or a L er d JOHN RUSSELL then proceeded to the order Select Committee of Inquiry; from the committee of a of the day. He said—Sir, I will now proceed to society calling itself " The Central Cernmittee of Na- propose to read the order of the day with tional Associated Trades, and for the Protection of In- the view of proposing in Committee a resolu dustry;" and another signed by 7,000 members of an tion for education. In doing so, the House, I association, calling itself " The Association of Young trust, will bear with me, and give me its indulgence, Men of the City of London, who were while I endeavour to clear away some of the exaggera also members •of various mechanics institutes, : non with which it has been accompanied.--(Hear , against the scheme and in favour of an inquiry ; hear.) And in connexion with which Honour also a petition from thirteen of the clergymen of the able Members have been misrepresented and diocese of York, who stated that it appear , d from the attacked in no ordinary manner, and called to give Sc. Minutes of the Council of E lucetion that certain pro. coma of their conduct at public meetings and elsewheee• positions were in some measure founded on the It is done by those who say they come to protest against_ representation of the Protestant clergy, while there an irresponsible power, it is done by those who endeavour was no authority to show that the Protestant divines t o sh ow that th e body who will have the managemen t ; as a body were in favour of the plan. this grant is unconstitutional, and that the grant made_ Mr. I)ENISON presented a petition from Surrey in from year to year—made by this House—placed in the • favour of the Government scheme of education. hands of the Ministers of the Crown, renewable at th e Lord ARUNDEL presented several petitions from pleasure of the Sovereign, and who cannot hold ° lth , this 1101 1 se , Sunday-school teachers against the scheme. any longer than they have the support of Mr. M. GIBSON also presented several petitions to that such a mode of devoting money to the educatT: the same effect. of the people was an unconstitutional mode. Mr. M. MILNES presented a petition in favour of. of proceeding. Why, Sir, talk of responsibility_ bold Mr. HOLLAND p resen t e d a p et iti on aga i nst , how much more must we be responsible, h_ Lord DUNCAN presented 10 petition s from Bath ing this power upon such a tenure, than thesis against. who assemble together from vari ous p ar t s of the coon" Alderman HUMPFIERY presented a petiti on against. try, not responsible to any persons, and who have told such Col. SIB THORP pr e s en t e d a p et i t i on aga i nst. Hon. Members of thiS House that they will raise so Sir G. BANKES p resente d a pet i t i on against, oosition at a future election, that the shall no longer i Sir J. Y. BULLER p resente d severa l pet i t i ons against. have th e h onour o f a seat in that House if they decide t he Colonel T. WOOD presented several petitions against. according to their free and impartial judgment tiru sir . Mr. PUSEY presented several petitions in favour of' questions now to be brought before you. I trust , hie li cuse4 the Government plot. entirely to the judgment and impartiality of t ts at Lord MORPE PH presented 124 petitions from various and teat they will not allow that these attelnp places in the West Ridine, of York.hire against the exaggeration and misrepresentation shall hide from the!? Sir it scheme of' the Goternment.—(Hear, hear.) t rea fact* of .—(llear, h ear Mr. P. BOR'I'HWICK presented a petiti on i n it s is e l well known that file case education of the peo p l e • ny—forms no favour. —of the worki ng class's evecta nationally' ' Sir R. PEEL presented three petitio ns from places in part of the duty, tither of the Government, or,,,.ewhole tre • 411 Lancashire against the Government scheme. speakiiig, of the Church of this c'tin years ' to voluti- Mr. WAKLEY presented several petitions to the same task of education has been len, of late • of t h e Mr. a Person effect. tary efforts. It the year Mr. VERNON SMITH presented petitions fr om name of Raikes first starte d subscriptions f o r Northampton against the Government sch eme o f the purpose of establishing Sunday schools, and diffasing great amount of . . education. was the means of' e'nof Mr. CHRISTIE presented similar petitions from education among the younger por i , the commutate • century, when Me. Lancaster Weymeuth and other places. In the be inning of this , , Sir GEORGE GREY presented similar petitions ; came to this country, it was entirety by the efforts of in also petitions from the Free Church Presbytery of dividuals that the British and Foreign School Glasgow and Ayr in favour of the measure, The Right Society was established, altogether unaided by eV Hon. Baronet proceeded, amidst the utmost confusion, assistance f ro m the funds of the Government. to state the prayer of the petitions, and in an a 010- So likewise whe n these schools were succeeded by the getic tone added th a t h e h ad been specially P requested to do so.— (Laughter,) the clergy took a great part in the establishment of these Mr. COMPI'ON presented petitions in favour of the s chools, it was done entirely by t h e money of the i t idi- Bill. viduals among the clergy arid the laity ; and Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN presented petitions from was in no way countenancee by the State. In the year 22 parishes in Norhamptenshire against the Bill. 1831, I think a vote was proposed in this House, of a Captain GLADSTONE p resente d s i m ilar petitions. very limited amount, as it die: not exceed 20,0001., for the Mr. PAT:II:sax presented petitions to the same purposes of aiding in the education of the working effset. classes. That sum was } :laced under the direction of Mr. LABOUCTIERE p rese nted petitions in favour the Treasury, and was stated to be intended for this Society, of the measure. purpose. I have mentioned the National Mr. AGLIONBY presented petitions against the which Church was composed of members of the , n measure. of En I gtand, and by the British and Foreign Lord GR..iNVILLE SOMERSET presented petitions School Society, which had no other rule than this — to the same effect. have the Scriptures read daily in the schools connectedhurch- Petitions against the measure were also pre,erled by with that society, which was constituttd, not of C . Mr. Barclay, by Mr. Sotheron, by Mr. Aldan; by the me-n only, but of Churchmen and Protest ant Dissen till Chancellor of the Exchequer, by Mr. B. Escort, and by ters. Sir, the matter continued in this shape se d to form a Mr. Barker. 1819 when it was propo. t the sums which Cons- Lord JOHN RUSSELL presented 513 petitions in - ' of the COUnCii ; ran and tha , /settee ,d by the Treasury favour of the measure (fourteen from the Chancellor of h a d hitherto been gt 4. . educational societies, shouldhenceforth the Exchequer). to the differe_nt of the Council, and that that Several petitions were presented also in favour tai . the pass through the Committeeh Co 1 measure by Mr. Aldam, trim Leeds, Sir H. Inglis, Mr. I Llommitee instead of t e wholeTunct , who being a Barclay, and Lord In wire„ I a large 1)0.4, like theform reasary,.was occupied with Sir DE LACY EVANS presented petitions from I other concerns, ahould . a cl>mtnittee of Conseil, and grants that that committee, y . 0 the direction of her Majesty, several in Westminster against ell State of I should have its attention expressly devoted to for educational purposes ; and against the eCommittee t his particular subject. Th e L ord President o f the Privy Coun c il.—(A l augh.) the Coutiel was placed at th e h ead o f t h a t Lord M. HILL p resente d a pet i t i on against. Committee, and he ha s t a k en the charge at a ll r. PARKER Mr. KEMBLE three in favour. one from Clapham, signed by the titres; nt es; whether und er th e t h en Governme, the late The Government, or under the present Government. Archdeacen of Surrey, in favour. different dissent-- the Lord President of' the C > taken Mr. BROTHERTON petitions front laces. ageinst- the charge of this mater,' i. uncil has at all timesu of anti of the distribution the ing congregation,: in Selford, and other PCO.ANIES. }ands forhem brought BOARD OF CONTROL. —GAS . . CONTROL.- GAS t o give notice that - 1 • before the C .1 I mutate rom time to time h regu.ationts Mr. HUME said that he desired move that as the such be useful. Thursday the adoption of' which, he thought, would be he would to-morrow or on had been v-sted in Si . th e first in of India r, the appointment of that Committee in Government conduct of the Board in the the India Directors, the z cognizance of certain stance gate rise to great differences of opinion s ss , of Control in tal e di s ' ,4eachable.—(Laughter.) He country, and a very protracted amid vehement di cn re thil .. matters was illegal and a statement of the rate at which took place in this House on the subject. The A ~n_. . would also move that furnished the public with bishop of Canterbury, in the other House of PIF Ini companies had gas meet, protested against the formation of that Committee, a ll gas should be laid upon the table, not last ten years for the RENCY—VI `' C TOWNES. and against any scheme of education .hich was _ DECIMAL CUR , brought by Boil before Parliament. It was evident the Dr. BOWRING would move on to morrow (this day) of Council an address to her Majetty, that she would authorise a seine time the endeavours of the Committ ee decimal system of currency, and that a co i n of the value on the one h an d. sod that of the church on the other, )1. opinion of two shillings should be issued, being one tenth part were much we alc, ned by these differences successful as they of a pound, to be called a " Victorine.' —(Laughter.) and therefOre the results were not so The ques- TIIE POOR- LAW. would have been it' they had not prevailed. that the Mr. FERRAND said that he would wish to ask h non was in this shape when it was proposedh tile should Noble Lord the First Minister of the Crown a .t e 1 inspectors who should visit the national se concurrence of the •of which he had given notice : he desired that clquestion' ; be appointed by the Council, with the 0 _ f Canter bring name a day on which it wile his intent' Archbishop of Canterbury, in the province . •h o p of on to . I the Archive bring forward the question of the new bury; and with the concurrence o ro per-lee If h • t ee York, in the province of York. That these should Noble Lord was unprepared to do thit, h should COll- ' Council generally, as to the sider it his duty to bring she sub' - d report as ; the House. ject utter the notice of ' secular education, anti that tiny should instruction according Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that • to the nature of religious .. that it was his inter- e to the liturgy of the Church of .It neland, and lion to bring forward that ' be sent — question on Thursday next, duplicates of these reports should also or on to-merrow (this day) week. their concur- to the Archbi•hops: that if they withheld were - GOVERN NI ENT EDUCATION SCHENlFappointment of that inspector or . .. e . . Sir BENJ. HALL said_ f r ' ' " h ream from the he considered the conticieetiOtte-7 e o e we proceed distatistied with. what. _ . to „ wa di ant She . - order of the day, I alai put a question, of which I have di sc h arge . of his datzes o - Isi s ap • el 4 c • t i Yh ' t .: a. -