The Sun. — London, England, 1817-02-08 00:00:00

the ritireetive sei*viee, n o d were comp e lled to corn an honest live 11110ud, without disparaging tee glory they lied obtained during their long careue in the public cause. It was his task to the present occasion the amount of the &deicer forces still kept up, but without going intf‘at minute examination, as the particulars of the % . ariotts services would bebeenedto Parlia; tort :it another opportunity, '. hen the liouse %% w ild h e eim bl e d t o examine all those Estimates tool lons, previothly to giving their votes for the Stirdhs. But the. t-ionse most be aware, that it sit mild be impossible for the services to be carried on vt Minn! the necessary grants of money being on , etited to. lie wis!,ed,hOwever, particularly to sate, that it wits not his intention to call On the noose to vole thel4;stimates for the serviced the en tire year, but only for 14 certain number of months, hich the inetdries would take place, which wn:111 1 plaee the llouse' in such t Situation• as to i n-hle lion' to avail theniselvt:s of all manner of information. At, therefore, every Menthe!' would, have ati opporitinity of satislying hims'elf, it would: H great sacrifice of their Hine, if - he were to' coter info A minute statement this, night. But; his main :object, teas only to put the House In posseSsiott of description of math branch of the service, in comparison With the last year.: lie could •Hisnet , the House, that Government had, rtitletivotomf twfota4 these. measmes with a strict: r'efer'ence to the 01140011 of the country and I!'e . exig,ricies of the State, tool in such II orittaer as a pp e a re d to them it Wiie Cornhination. Thtt olt ieet of the 'Commit tee,: he apptehended. was wore to.examine into the expenditure of the coma' il, with, a %icie to ,lift;,( any . not . sy*lein 0 - nance Otherwise 'he thOuld have himself incompetent to the tatik. Parlitoneot oattrielly. felt, ' , tux toes that the pnblicexpendit ottotitl ondcroi a fair, impartial, and camlid exit - n tiatiott ; 'sod ht' cook( tiNslitl: the itottie that there , t, the loost• anxious desire, on the part of Nlioiti o. is. cton't an examination into. this subject. ton (eel thcntsclees pledged, as a po'!lit of 11 , t000r,tst abject to any fair tiew that (night he taken of the *object different frtim their own ; ;is tile only thing on which they rested their pride nod ; .dory' was to find out the weans, them ound out by others, by 'thichi flit• COW)! ry Collld I , C t Mitch (IS the 1 1 , 1 60 . 0 114Tell . ded f or Its glory lipeni ins naval and military d , :ifeliders, . they he INlinlstero felt that there was no arm that had stooo it iii gteater service than the publiecce do of the country, which hail tto eininently a‘sist d us thritogliOut the trementlinis . Stroggle. Ths re cotild be no difference Of opiniOn as to the general: pi iple of the necessity of looking into the ex ' proolHire 'Of the country ; but above all, we Ought 'to see that the faith of, Parliament be inviolaidy eserred —(Lotl cries of hear, hear, bear !) ; and at ton h a time it should be proudlymnd.! known, that this hallowt:d and happy country, England,' (for great mid happy 'she untinestionably teas, Slot willistanding her present timpirrary dillicnl ties),, disdained to purt•hase a tninnent of ease and strength, by feiling in the `good faith to•which true stood honourably Hod emisciention,ly pledgetL 7 -(l.lear, hear should now, without Further 'obwrvation, ptocet..(l to call the attention of the Butter. to - the state of' the Army. :In the rompa tistur of the Estinoties for ,the • present year, he -hllolsld -1)11t tl-e al Mies ill France aunt 'lodia aside, Hs, not being Maintained et the expenee of this colintry - The Land Forces, 'at .home and. abroad, the Iloese recollect, by theii• vote of la!t year, autOttnied in rank and file to - 00,000 men, of which 53,000 were setting in Great liri lisin • mid Ireland, anti 46,01)0 in Prance. It was now proposed to make a redact ion from the 53,000 of 5;100 area. Out of the Estimate for the Co , 'branch, the reduCtion wonld be 13,000, IB,oop : inen less for the.service 'Of this year, than the last. Now, be felt no hesi tation ill m o,i tg, that this 'reduction was resolved tiodti• a strong . sense Oftheiliflietthies which opittre,.t.e,t the country. This he thotight it his ditty to stale, that the reasons tor it might not he inis, , pprelie; , :led. lie thought Minister S -would be ju , titicil in looking at the state of the Colonies, when contemplatiog military reductions, because titioe was tin opiniou , that the price of their de knee, accotiling to ,the present establishment, taight he too dear, flat as to our home defence, fie was confident that.there could behot one feel-. its e , in the country. It 'must he the universal op'. vino, th a t far t h is gr a nd object no price . could he to o great, and the only question was‘ .. whir WAS `the bt..st Course that could he adopted, as he wassore - 11 1 ,tt . c00 , , ;4 1 1 hit preseuted itself to convince Gen-. of the nrcesilty of Out rt'sllueuflg the forces rot 11 , 4w...defence to too lots tt shintlard. TititS, the 'Cotntaljsoif of this year with the last, stood as 81,000 'Oen to 99,000 ; the retinctions including 3;j() cavalry, 'nod 13,000 men from our different , tattl;Ateietits :übrotid. The •rite Of last year al, I,,.. st h ur for 150,000 men this year' it was proposed collectively for 123,000. - The 'lndian vote wmdd h e for 17,000 instead of 20,000. On the whole, thel,fore, he ,voold tepeetiliret of Ile. croups in (ireitt Nitwit', Ireland, and tine Cohinies, the inmate!. would he - 81,000 honead of 119,00 g then, silo! f,r all the Milit•ttyservieeoaken toe * thee, I23,01)0 instead of 140,000, In: the - Esti-1 mat V.., I here would appear a stub of 220.0001; tei, li e :pros ideni for, ml deconnt of regiments had not ,reterned,frotoabroati, but were of I .way Find in it course of reduction. 11 idi.o l l,l now ;nerdy State, that the •Estimete. the Whole of. the A ritty Vote' W.oolsl be a;s3B r outn r,r l a nd forces ; the ' other . eOittingent, bran, het ; woohl.hriog it ,ty to 6,830,0001, which, frith sl je ion of thin expellee!, ocCasioned by th e r'e'lt u efoeld. make the whole total 7,050 ; 0001, The- Comtnissariat • to Greta 131itaiif add be 500,01i01. 'This espen t liture veintid wohist st Hs Ont.! Wit idli mitst net e , saiily be 166111 to" the cOontry, - as it tots didinusediritirepitri tiott,e of iiread,N,,e-at, rand fs a b !t - r. illiderfarficohr. eireloostatices, and it wasnatto,ii;ywoelt;inereissett ,Ity do: cid ; orestitrice of 11'1 ovi•sit ori.‘Vitit respeCt't4 11ff Il u"r.ti, k 1%-nahli 4 lonent, it had been so tar. re 4 rtnerit ;is ttom .17:3,0001, which it latelY.cost, Id ietptive ttct 1 / I ?re..'o , lllfriitili 70,0001." f680..,0001.:— , The total demand for the 'CommissHriat and Bar ll:partmente might therefore be taken at f*:0.000 for Great Britain .and 'lreland. After recapitulating ioitii ., '"Ori-he Items in -the stotentvltt, course of which he :•.4`.i , erved that the Liartiordiwiriet of the Army had not lantiergone any reduction, the Noble Lord observed, that he toi s al coar. 4 e for' the whole Arß s iy 'Ser6ee was 9,2:9,0001. the provisi•in hist year was 10,561,0001.; so that the reducriult 0 1 the eepolices in this sert ire produced a saving; l,t .3J4,0001. Ile bllo.lld nnev piI)CPCO to give (lie House a general outline of the Ordnance Esti- Min es. 'The Charge for't he ,la t Fear, e "en 11 er every deduction then made, had 'beet; 1,696,0001.; that, for the present year amounted only 'to 1,246,0001.; so that there would be a diminution of 450 0001, on that single Item. This saving was eflected by the reduction of a whole WM lion in the corps of Sappers and Miners, : and Of 41)011t 3000 artillety. Fie had already stated, that the reduction in the veneral services of the Army amounted to 1,331.0001. ; it the 450.0001. 'laved iit the Ordoance Departmettt were joined to it, the total rethiction wonlil he 1,781,0001.-- lle thought it necessary to call the. attention of the [loose to an iinportant feattoe in the Ariny F.43timat es. They aniounted for the pre sent year, to 6,538,0001'. 'but out Of 'Vette '2,55,1,0001. terse for m.reices already perfOrm: ed, and totally unconnected with those of the year. So that if the !louse did not' vote ooe single soldier to - guard the British Empire, the 2,551,0001: to which he 'had alluded must still be fulvided for the balf•pay.of Officers, thOetired List, 'and Pensiims already granted. it was then a fact, that instead of innountiog to 6,538,0001. the real vote would he wider. four millions ster ling. \Vlieii Gentlemen spoli.e of the largeexpenee of the army, he wished them tostake that point into consideration. Por it ought not to be for gotten, that, io the opera ion of saving, his 'Ma jest y's Ministers were always driven to' the ne ressity of giving hall-p sy. All their economical efforts were thus counteracted to a Certain degree. AS they reduced the force on active ditty, they threw on the cottotry a proportionaie expetwe of at least one•third, if not fully one-.balf, what the whole 'es fienditure of the force which they re (lnce,' 'Would have been, hail it boon left on foOtiog Of . activiiy. Ile should now pass to the 'arrangeMents proposed for the Navy. The ;louse 1)1,1 eOted 33,000 t u rn last yuar Inc that service. Out of these, 23,000 were for the ,ac• wt! service o( the year, and 10,00(1 in progress of lednetioo. iitce that tithe, however, it, had hero lootill advisabl e to reduce the vote to a pro-, vision of eighteenthousand men instead of 23,000. It would in fact be 19,000 men, as it was not hi tewled to reduce the Royal Marittes.—(lleur, hear, hear !)—That was a most useful force, and, one, which if once brOlsen down conic) nisi he formed again, whilst the best seamen could always be collected with he . greatest Facility. The redu'efiAn of seamen I'vould of cour s e a llo w of a reduction of ships and other naval expences. The charge fur the navy .amotmted last • year to 10:111,0001., and this year to only 6,397,0001.; sO that there was II redoction in that 'single branch of no Tess than 3,717,0001. It was also' to be considered that within that vote, redttred as it WaS, cmiiideeable sinus would be applied to pur poses entirely unconnected With the service of the present year. Not less than 500,0001. would be wanted' fur the •psynient 'of tt Transport Debt pre existing. The immense iaving in the Navy Estiro ites would lie prodtteed in part by the fol. lOwilig reduction., the'vvear nod Tear De pall went ',35050001., in Ext eLordinaries ; 29l ,0001. and iCVTransportS 711,0001. And besides all this, awl beyond the 3.717,0001; now ceduced, there was 'the Prospect of the discontinuance of the 500,0001. which lie had Mentioned. The ehargo for.. ?Miscellaneous 'Services had "been last year 1,900,0001. for'Eogland, and 600,0001. .for Ire land. It would antomit Oils year only to 1,000,0001. for Engbiod,' and ,',00.0001. for Ireland, so tbat there would he a saving in that branch of one Ile would now recapitulate the realm lions effected io the various Departments of the l'oblie service L.! ,334,00t1., In the ,bale In the Or4lisitce In the Navy In the Nlisvellaneuns.SerOces, 3 :5 1 0 7 ,0 0 6 00 0 p. 1,000,000 Grand Total / X 0501,000 On the other band, the Charges for the "present year Would be as fullotVs : • ,FOr the Artily • ' L.7,0n0,000 ror )P,iirractis BBo,opo Vur I:xtraordittaries a Fur the Ortlnanee For the Navy Fur 11 iscellatteuus St.rtices tt • . t 1',540,000 Total 7. , 18,373,009 In submittii)g-these Estimates to• the House, lie thought it would be Unfair to attempt t o partie o . utid tix those sums which Initt he provided for i ihis,year, hut which might not be required the ',ext. It would be giving n pledge on the part of .Nlini•iters by which it could not be expected they sholi:tl hind themselVei. It WAS as iniliossiblefor the Oovertiment, as it would be fur a private in.. dividinil, to he able- to regulate, in ti .pus manner, the expeoces of the next year,' so as to says, auit they woiild nut eXceed a certain estimate. In yeitr, other sohiers of expenditure might wise ; but other dediic.ion, might, no doubt, also bei;itic. (ioverumelit would be on the watch, wouhl avail riu:ncielves o f e've r y' o pp ortim i ty of et r codling expeneili. Out ot the i 8,37i3,0001: 1) , , ,, v0ie d to t : th e preient year, he Would show what ;;laihUhly cease to ‘lie wanted for tliti ii;,cly filar 220,0001. he'saveri l'otitrvltri, Itisut regild-nt3 whidt vier: ti ny ii) . prog/eSM of reduction, The Extra.; ought be, reduced 390,0001; or • Irosii I ,3p0,0001; to. 1,000,0001. in' fbe ()Mosinee he trod, in ' contia.Js, mid in the .)k.piirt tile tvitiett be. , bad r;ihnittg tilt:11 411 1',070,0001. sti ;that the I.,:,stiinite% . ()light to liii considered al! amottioni;t to ttvt:ittt o rAtiwr tlinn elgtrteen hail ilh.eit,!y idlinted,ovhilst tpenithig on.theArthy t.' , 4itti•lie,to the ei4a - rge 612,55 ',OOOl, for serVieei performed. The ttivitie might to he taken ot t bee sirviaes. lii pee in the N's y tinioittiteilio . 1 271 , ,00111: .e*elusive of 400,00/. in Chit iiltis . *lli the 'Ordnance tq 223,001. tsirmiii:4' ;1' I;r.:l,nd '4,4.15 - ,0004 with the sort ices of the Year', and which most be provided, if not one soldier were kept, or one ship retsiiited„ When the yob lie Mind was le 1 to contemplate the apparently great , .eharges for the army and Kiley, he hoped that a due separation would be made between those which had grown out of the war, anti those which really arose (tom the necessities of the year. If the House looked to the estimates of 1792, es a point of comparison, it ought to re collect, that the charge for performed services scarcely existed at that time. . if the 1,070.0001. which would not recur next year, together with the 4,445,0001. applied to repay past cervices werede ducted from the, preient Estimates, their real amount would not be found to exceed 13,858,0001. It would take much titne to cuter into a particular comparison of these estimates with those of 1792, But a ought not to be forgotten that it was after six years progressive redaction that Mr. Pitt had brought them down. to 5,200,0001. They only embraced at that time . one branch of the United Kingdom. But now they included Irelend, and the whole British Empire. if the House 'looked to.lreland at that'period (and how diffe rent was its, situation then from what it was at preseet!) they would find that its expellees aim-unit . ed to I;000,0006. a year,'which taised the total 'of the Estimates in 1792, to 6.200,0001. They were certainly' now 13,858;0001., about Ow double. But then what had been the growth of the lit it ish Empire, and the extent of its colonies.? NVhat had been the situatioe of Europe, the great social change that lied taken place, and the temper created by it in France ? .Those were reasons which had altered the con)itioir and increased I he expenses of Great Britein.. The very measures adopted by the House also, at:commd for a, large portion . of the aogittented expenditure of the country. The pay of the army had been donhled, and other allewaoces lied been granted'to soldiers and officers, both at .1;ome•roul abroad, which made t he; expeuditure 1792 no eriterioe for that of the present time. As an instance of this, , he should stAte, that a regiment of cavalry, coo sistine Of 700 men, would iu 1792 have cost only 28,000/. whilst , it cost at present 38,000, 10,000/. More trail at that period. There were nu.e six teen thousand Men of that arm in the British army. Prujudices should not be entertained against the sincerity of Ministers io their efforts at eco nomy, because the estimates of the present year amounted to 13 millions, and those of 1792 only to six millions. They had already opened one. Source of reduction tit, the House. There was' another, the effect of which woeld be more re mote, hut 'not less sure. On the four millions ap. plied to performed serviced, a grudnal diminution, could not tail to take place. The hurthen would certainly be borne gratefully by the country as long as it should exist.---(Bear, heat' 1) 7 -114 there would be a reduction in that, branch, not only by the, cessation of the lives of indivultials who received t pensions, but because 'Ministers Would think it their 'd u ty to call as many half-pay otlicers into active service, whenever it would be in their power. .lie bad inquired into the pro treble reduction of the number of holividnale in the army and navy, who were now inscribed on the half.- pay list. It Alllollllted to 100,000, 56,000 of which belonged to the, army. Assuming 40 to be their medium age, it was probable, eccording to the tables of calculation, that one-half of them would have cased.to exist in the next 23 years. The . proportion avonld therefore be about 2000 we' a•year and 100,0001. In the present Estimates, his Ma-jesty!sGoverumentliad used ,their strongest endeavours, without .endangering the safety of the country,' to frame them in spelt a manner as to bring the expenditure .of the .country within the scale of its .m eans . A t th e close of the most arduous struggle, in which uny,country %vas ever engaged, Ministers had so conducted the public affairs, that after the stependotts exettious of.war, and in the first year of peace, they had had. the satisfaction to remit not. less than eighteen mil lions sterling of taxes to. the people, and found themselves able to square the.exacuditure of the t country within its means. His Right Honourable I.4‘tierul, the Chancellor Of. the Exchequer, would soon open his part to the Mouse, and give theM details which might be relied upon, of the means which the country possessed of meeting its ex penditure. At the present moment there would have been a•balance in favour of the country, bad, there not betil• a elliirge 10r a provision for the Unfontled Debt, amounting to about 2,330,0001- But even then an improvement of 1,500,0004 might have taken place if there had not been a deficiency in the tevenue of the Consolidated Fund this year. Aids ms as the difficulties :of the nation 'had .beeti ; accitundetieg as had beets the deficiencies in the revemie, yet there . would have been an Im provement on the general balance. But what united the scale, amid prevented the title of pro sperity front flowing its he hoped into kiteeoaalrY, arose front it. measure adopted with respect to the country with which he was more particularly coo- Heard : he meant the consolidation of the Irish and English Exchequers, ;which imposed an ad ditional charge (matte latter, .Having shown that the Government hell endeavoored to bring the poblia t expenditurewithi o the means of 1116 COUII.- try. he trusted thst the' House would see that the Esritniteshad been cast on a principle of ecottemy and moderation, and had not been pushed beyond the necessity of the case. It was not necessary, therefore, to lake gloomy views of the haute: Members, oh the contrery., would be able tis hold , out to their constituents a not very distant pros pect of progressive reductions. He would not at, tempt 'to disguise that the present, year had flieted the severcstpressnre open all classes. Nu individual could. be so inattentive as not to feel that the hand of Providence had been extended to jeffect this situation,• by withholding the genial influence of the seasons.---(Hear,. hear,'hear!)— It ought perhaps to - add to the regret of all,. to' learn that they had not 'been exposed gin. gly to that, cadamity, but that It had been 'felt more 'ar: lass deeply by every.- , State and People on the Continent of Europ e . It h e were to make adistinction between any States; t would be in , favetir of this country, the P.essure on whitle'fied been less severe, or atleast m:rrtrin. e u stt portable,' th en otr any or u theEropean Na I e-wes iiko a consolation to reffeet; that it: its suf. , feeings.bad been great,. the ardour for.relieving them Lad not been less remarkable throughout, classes of the community. Never bad hympith so powerfully exerted influence before. it hart ,-.. nofeonfined itself within the duties ,prttc 6l)4 , t l i t , t 4l. ti the law. It had exerted itself f or the rot t ttr the stifferers with a degree of zeal kno°l44l tl 4i) ° this country.-- - -(Hear, hear, b e ar!)--II'„ 1 ' 0 41 ,' 1 ed that the same beneficeut split o'ou'd;,"l tinue to oerate, and he assured the HP Ildy , that great a the exertions of the corille t o 441 • .. been, there aas no quarter in which til. 14 made a deeper impression than on tb t ' ' ' quarter Of all, by whom every thing3lo • ~ t /In' . ..tilb increase their 'effect. I-Ie was in fait ":ittwa t to state t o the House, that the Illuitribill 0.111;il dual• at the head of the Governm ent ' h t. "' Highness the PRINCE Ilecr.Nr, had declartt.•it'y , L AQ e i t t ) % r v t a ii s m h . is of in t t i e le nti t r i b l t i tt i o s a u b u s t ta n it f t f t r i o le ta q 7 a c r e t iv er i l7 .l ' . e '% iii ut , 4 1 I hl , „ i. ‘JI Civil List appropriated to his personal e s l'' , - 1 ' and those of his .Househuld, as, % , ti tht"l' 4 74ll( t 1 i . litir : b f s l t t a is in Co ff t .( l ) n in si , l l l .e o c ra . , .it would .i be tieeole d ' e ~,.' a pt i t P i li i i . s e' i l l e. l o i i t r y o t a .t f n l e l :.—: 1 - g li ( h a t S i m i b e e o e s il t: I t ' titis:i intended e‘flci'll°lldlen'ela:mirn,itsthillijotnal cltgiti!:ril"-iend:lilgit:Ibi:t1:1:141411,"1ei: b ~,i0 Al b , at,, to the Public Service. It would 8 11100 t° , lr tiL. t . " fi the whole am inint of his l'er s°ll,. . si ° 'lt venue. for the rest of die Civil List 0 8 t 1 .41 • for Public services, as any of th e n r : t . ti ; I , l ll' Pro Posed thia night. The SUIII arPf t) r ''' his - Rnyal • Hi• 0111; ' II Set °l d 1 ° 00 10 41 b t!i l P :, LSS S On i 209,0(101. the t c he orn l:l: a iv i y l Purse . to 60 , 0 o Ul . 'llj ‘l v 50 eii would be • about the fillitilt6t(itt.'cletils 11°):101000110P -I all ' 11:„ til and ,that wits the stun Which lie ititrteldi° „I t. 141 . I lltr 1, ,to the public wants., Ile wished 10 s pare. !s i r o' ii, vat ions of the people, as lie had shared tb e A Ii ir t 1 and . , Lions their t t i i I .,i i i i s e teti t s ti ll e r tliat the bes C i t :i o r t y • t i i i i r d tiJiiiies:trsetrobn.,:gsgle:lti r u l i o n t b t e :t t o l l s cd i c#,l i. ?i t , ' , . 11 1. 3 " &hi,' or , i f t l e i c s e i\ ss i t a t j y es o t t y a .s pi o il t y li i e n i ,; d to se l::: , •l n :a t i s n , c;: . t r o e li f : li ls o l :i ct l ; l l . • , o'er ...t t o i f ie co r n e t l i i . e ib f u o ti t7g a.ininch as it lay is ll '' '"' , ill 4 ,, wished e s : 11 : 11:ii: 1:11:115 :1: : 114,1 r seem very considerabk in its4.lf amid the e° t i r ''' „•11 a` services of the year. But it was not 5G 11 ', 1‘ ,.,,' ‘i , eo 0.( 11 , 1,, 3111t1 as the principle which ought to oe- - '' Il i - :, • t, toci l o t inirriteecitc:iitli.tb)itqveetintiigsohiatvseptrhoed bestuc e m uc h p :4: o; relief, 101 s, ,I,i) Vii; t n he o s n on t l l e le . i , illY",, 4 • i r l i e e ri s si as ; would bake, been paid 0 tile - 0 ''' „i r t„ ,leitaiw:nioretgiuc,:iitilibinieloralliitdol:Nst%e;sat.letifvnil:iyii(vc::ahl:iintliasitp:ilooaassntitTi(liPoeicortttrrliret'elPptctt°eaotici(ir.ticitittilieltiotaelli.rfttrie9ity:lef,,ii:,jiis:tee i :: : 1.1 Tax, . al 41 t!' 1 might ri e ic:t not b b ig e lcl f 'f ot s o c l' i l "lil°)‘ ' i'llir'''; : 'l' ' ' ' ttlilt i ll . but tilre p ti t o lil n li , e in n s o ta ti t c i e n . g pursue. courseuic i l ( t i t n h %o e vlll ii i c o lb : :V4vv'I ' ll':::V: " 'I ' it'' wedt° er :r iit lie` r : ' 1 1 : 1 1 n 11 .. 0±. The woill ballotse a e pursued, the appointing of S e l ec t Cor i ' , ••,,, r , I; t() I.l.ll,aniong the Gentlemen opposite, 1 1 bi , ti: ,1 Learned by the speech o f an Honooril II .; 1 i i i,, :r i ned m ,`elliber, not distingilii sel , l ,4l: ii . t ' l l — , krlear, hear, and l a nghte', l ,,,tel" . ~ p r erliaps littered . in' a little more ro° lie 7 I: 1 l' hill those which the late Mr.' l i erio ; 9 l l' itl. • a ttra t l7 on all lyttlot occasions, and 0 1 ' 41. i !r !1 1. lI oat -!•tilletliteti relet;eit._ll::bia:litYlLobbfaoeatstfilielat.rililit‘alif.illtl:let.liril'oe'et'yll)l6lel_liao:l)crtP.(.sileertilhit(-ilotrleolesileevel:hir:sril.:llEiroliipel,,'Cilir:',:ll,)ll):;:toir':lll.l'iii.':'.l.4 should H antler in a ballot which placed a Nientl)Cri of i t s t : ‘' . ‘ l e i ' , l e t lil e Ys i f t , i : : : : i t i v t i l ie t i t t e i t t l i n t cl i i s t iad ) s e t le i l i t t i l e h iollo t e t : e ) ri r i f t? i l —yb i o: i n ito t i a l( h fi n t o e r sa i a a : i g i h r' i l l i e ili t e; a l h a t n e l : r d l:irg re i te j l i t: e sil:. c i let l l 6l , l l l " lo : llll .. 1 , 2 : tieriaring, that without b a llot a ll eleet ill itheV ~,'.. unequal to produce a just representati°ll()sprT; r • J , pie. A Committee of Itiquii y had bec li „ . ," I o ' . ' . l* 1 7 - bal lot in 1797, and had - published o l "„' 5 , 1 1, ''''. most voluittniOus awl useful inform 11 :ii 1 / ,,,!1` %vas not aware at fi rst that there was ''r cedent of a later: ate, in which the i ii , 0 ~ ' ,t e t ppointed a Committee o f l o griirl i i O. . A erent Manner. This was in 18 07 ' ,Colo utit i ject, , however, were ,to nominate 0, the ! l i b '1 which should possess the confideoceo' t oll( I ` .'', not 11 1 4 yeil and of the Conutry, he would Gentleman, When an Honourable f nt le er, P , . 1 Mr. 1341/1111" now ti° l ' i n — roe s ,i t Coere alive; a 'Member of the Ilotoe' :"I L II i h r 1 uommittee of Inquiry into Oitieeis,`,iaret t tile reduction of sineenres, lt olio "' - o ° ll. naturally supposed that the Gentlen,Jtlort, 1 power %void(' have given hint their 5 1 'fP,, , eC ° : A they would - not allow him to oant e , lii t t iv i i t t li t i o ct u ri t t i l i n i t . ittee alone. They took the appo'n , t . s . liatids, and though fliey made h' l ' l lii ativ filt 1 d 1 .1(2- 1 1?.2 11 18-! n i-da: tl itr:le t c : le . r . i t lrie) l ie l vn f e : r:Plo : 1 :1, 11f : ita l li t cse o teri l l:l e lle.citc:I C Ili71:t o rxiss t c t i( t ifitl t :r i e t oeg i e t i6aul t In e re'R e raPi : till edatrt i ll f dt ittillsg'::11111-Pti'eti tt ri t: : :leiljb:A:fi:lilli: :11 1' • s f ur b i c: id, c .. l ) o :l l r i n s e ri t t i e o l i ja e l ( l l a l s b i k e t t l e i n r a n i t l t i p e n i r e j i l Le d n tto:ti)esnittt-i e ' p f a s t i u r e r i i i a %i i v lt o l it li b i s r; i fi tt i l ,) (9 1 • 1 : : re in the eoitstant imabit of voti,l,,Tbe rg e ci t 1 titers. --(hear hear, anti laughter./ id orr, t i ' nothing which he should more g erong.l or hOid ! at the ontset of an inquiry of this i ni l l 1 16'11 ° 1 ,1 any difference of opinion between' t°lolidi: sides of the House. He wished ihe'q,`,l,c(ol,l ed, not as one 4 Parliarneetatelolo;4l, one in which all parties shoolleaLlii:licrCgoid': e wa s so convinced of ti)e ialP °lrjriCC °' i b b i e ut vie'i. "'in they hest means of serving ~at~. N~u~e