The Sun. — London, England, 1817-03-11 00:00:00

. ... ... . 4 "... , .. . .. . . 1 trine in ift present trate, than exchange it for huoli DI tiaiverS4l &Utirniige. Wlll A. 111:44.,T0R vxplanted, • ' , • ' Ilk o,utn,as lilieveil - much aporellension • to elitailk.ii In ;ceoiLifil fin the s Alec( 1)1 pat,' t wegly Illi onti, null was sinisli , d the peop l e '4 4 . '"t 40 illivrciiiit in tlo I eptyielitetl i)ti. ,t,tpoittl ili;, piartievs 4 I ! ,, se v , lit' sent . U p 1. '" 3 0,1 ihk sul),kct, and ikeetii),d one to rtteeti tetchily fram e d by certain low idle per othobiul•ittrtvroils tarried it into e Pri`''''e I, allii,ibiiii(ll die, sign`dti:uts of as Many li , i enuld %% Li! e their 'tattles. 411110 '10N •lii iefiv .replie4l. lie stated ter7tteelaration sigot d by his elitist it twills ter)) agninsl ortiveisal sttfirtt4e di"' 11 " - 'll)'fifB;,but in noiltiow, eltt ilp.'"*" to Th'l he 'lather stAreil th e sobtance of , w.ell 'lttn't thlintol to 'Ministers, a , it prticti tyou t hell the iiiiportance of • • W. Ilillt.EY ( limit:lit some change in the 4a4niutrn .1,-inlatill ought to lle Ittude• IlthunitAst thought that, it was m of soe lilt they sho u ld k now whet h er these ily cattle from the people of- Scotland, ' 4 ' his Learnen Priem! (the Lord A - 1141411 0 lint st ate d , n i ne-tenths of the Itpiii,t uny change being otaile in the lie thought it rather extraord - should mot only not wish for it re- 3110th'! he an XiOnS 111)1 In have one. 'tend had.statvd, that at !he Union had heett given to Seatiititti by 1 3 t, whi c h h ad been thOught `) 61 s ituation,- and that the number of siliee increased. The I.eartred Lord tin the Boroughs the electors could 'lei - l ' i ,l'eti fter increased, and if there were_ ' l ' the CoOtities, it might to be I'e netl:44l,ition of the country was near ‘tital it was formerly. tie tvottid Ilsk Irlto t f . .,, l ',"endell the pre..ent representioion '''' were not true that a man Might °toool. year, and yet not. bu ye 11 ' ttletier of Parliam" ent ; and if it re 4t OW eleettir S of a Member of It flit 111 uot hav e a ,inglt;, Here of . hmtl "ti Ift K It',. gfa il d, the c.:)pyll'oiders were This lie tbooght an ah so r t lil y, britl' c 'o iti pkictice by the noitiber of the It'l w would he .thotight of the 're i iff•N'tnksliire. if .. there Avere bit 300 ~,70,0thi eoilholdeil stG l'heveit litany of •the petitions 1 ' t p - ' e ," 1 • 1 ' 1 '11 In: 'be of. the same fatuity ri',ll,-''''l4,lheett sent to, the' matittlactur ' 1 , '`,. j el'iell men ‘‘lio'wisbezl •t 9 ‘• v() . 1 , k t 4 la , ir ini ...iron, the „ usc• wlin were SULU:I S ‘o t i . litlet, Had wi, o , 10 etrect (VS. ,r ,,- I' idt,,,)t... ~ . . L , t i, r panacea , .. tv i ls ..- .o y netoi mt ,/ Ut. • , .. 11, • 41 Which!they. h a d ~ to cuitiPLltti! t' e • lit' ,:liiikill:11:: 't II thatt the Lord Advoea , _ , ,e.tiltit,e"L'ect ia assuming trine-!ettfit °I I,:luth; Mrfl•Pesrple of Scotland were favont 4( 11 , Nete ht ,',e, lit 1 ,i' ." 1 1, in Inc() 1 1t i. „ t 1 , •,. t, nt. lt. tt. . ,4444 •41tiinvillary titto t tit 11.1(1 tili1014:, tit l '''Bl , • t ' o e l i ts c i i! 11 e Way indeed, and the . l:l B ,jihriir io Ittici:..tw't.ty ae,n the vim's( 1011.- • .1.., ' ' 1 '1 4 4, - . 11 • 543 'then reamtali. or' i erell to IL • , 4 4 , 4, ~ e, , . ",. kki; t4l V I , . kts " ' . . . , Itltillt to-c)itniqs.l4l4,A4): 1111' sewed rtnoth,r i" ~.. ..11 11 ' ' St)' tilna the. Lloyd! I.ltirgli . 60 : 't:sC"'s'N tI. 1 the 44 . t t i itii‘ , (IN necointi to, o.sser ye Oil f 1 .1, , 111,1 o l " the repr'esentatioll of if4"414" i:'' 4i t•, I ) 41 iti y.kshire there were 60,000 l t i,''' ' tl ' , l 4 ' 4 .ll ,`; ii i" a.li 't:otlatitl . there were not )411)414, - "u0 fr ee h old voters. - 11 ' • ) 14• 41, . *4.1 ortlervol to lie on the table. -' I llv i '(1? SV PPLY.-...A1t NI Y . ESTINIXI'ES. ' ,tt t ':, 4 , . f 1 1 4!, I t il l i t. 1 i'i l/ , :g tine tit .o,tvc Et Li) ft 0! the E!_x_:. 14.t:.11:11111ti,er):1,1 nse having resolved itself Int'" 1 ~,:,111( f)u, ,,... itii i ,i ,: p , 3y!ett,,4,111','13. witilied in that early siege to : fi r f ,,... de Cor,:itti,At Aeroonti 'Were in (? ..!‘tlrurts lor the inspection o( the IN It • a lp „' 41.14p0, ' .. fil',4ll,ll;4.rnti we understornl to say, °tat, ~,iiii.)r, -,e w 45 intended to he post poot'' , ii ' 11 ;:tu, ~ 14141, ,I .,1 )1) nt the Report, these' palters,' t!leii.„ "Nit! he iniblnitted in title tinie ()Y-. '44 i l Y 94 r . 41 -Ittr it , ~ 'rtli flit 'ON Colltitltted that as it was pro - - , 11 „ 1,,} ) , ) ,,, ii , r t i,, q h .," illy fl„, . . "Is Of the COttittiittee I). . 4 it I'l , i , tbe ~,,iiia be in it'll. fm:.sessiott ot, g) i 0 ' "141 elt to entertain the lit,) 'le ,„iii,,,.. . . discus-, Mei ',1 11: 1 . it I ‘ . l , Ili ".11) estriblislimient soon Il 4 !1 Ills Intenti on .4 , ,, ,i 4 nteu . ti oli to oi ove for grants 1 , 4 •lt th,,tt"\:',..otteolitlt. lie Would hove 10 , it IS the 2,1',141111 Hill. r Pont t he. .24rh of d . ! 44 14 , 64 ' , l l fl of ane' licit, , and to provide ip t ,,,,e, 1 4 4 4,14 rt"ree.lur that t inte , together Wit It tr4l/e.all(ivai‘ Itnablhatti Eitablish merits, anti ill, t ' ''' ), ‘ll o file the 'Yeomanry and Yoltio.. lllt ttql,ce 11.'te floillestie torce. The difference t ilti leii i , 9 ,"Weelt the, lait and present year, k•lllilftifte 11;1;63..000/ he niirnher Of the nil- . . 1 3 11fe ofv , 11 " '' ,l l Year wa 1 ( 16: (100 men, in - 'I 4,104,i 'N'es tothr l y • . ' . 1" `Nititi l ' • , l'i l , 1 ,- , 15%1011(.4 -and tion-coi t Il i_ 'i pi v i : ,_ : 'Htiottl of the present year " 1 " ittt,til,,,y ia'vr'l It(Illet in '433,962, exl.loive w' 4lll c ri nd fil ""e-. Of this number 26,170 1)-11,',' ti ,, ,,„,.:!.. , .i.") , 1 if to it ‘‘e te ait t led 4600 tilliitliii:itieia iii,:leo,idti:,ll),,tntintel itt , 'it tvott3ltol l'ii;Ge '41)11,-,11‘,,,farie,:: ' ti lt : lif e r I ore ltr:gi ;C e ll i ( t ) O n nn)oree— thtifiNkr'..tivv, 16°,i,15e1.','ed.114 tll,OOO Men, ineltitling the f,Nl4jeirtel.tit intiot to be iliAltand6l, and ISW to It ? t k . i .,.b t o the 2.1:,.7,e, tirantect for tile Military Service i,!,,11L i. ,4 . 1 11 11t r $4,11 _ri.`„':_.ll,!lllie next. 11:tx....,:e, hTizeii,W)ol. tin- England, he granted to fa 4s ;;. t ttt . 6, 41 .. 'um (it tG 3 ,uO l / 4 11. fur that portion of ~ p„,..41,1 $4,1 „ xpe ! , :ftlith. A. • li"li4ll,Tit,ll.tn,t,,t„"'t,''',ooo). be granted far the Mi , It ik tt ,.., , lie t wee t , ‘ 4, 1 i,11!.:1'l the sum.of ;octil, fur .1., I, ..,'ll,,ersAtior " 9 . 61.h:0w ~ , i int bat coantry. i t li e , i ', l , th e 1, 11 . ' w ith • tiencral Giiseoigne.and ,t,tittiti.,, Serv er ! :dated t •1 • I . in , F11,,, re r t „ .... .;trillan assom atm' l ll N,, t r il l v, a t „ l in"::: ..t.oghtlid anti Ireland hail ' :Nil . 4 tlVi ii ' -.ltsell"euce on the SVar Al• ko hl , 4 C 4 it " g°l ' a yeat bad been LilyOsAl•mr,A,, ' , ‘..40,1,"1'-`')lii in ai • • hitt th,„ •qiin,iit. , . ' ‘ erting ! to the Yen ta . :41 11 io igii.,lll'e, „rii,',:lgge(l to remind the Cotli , 'ita r o' e l ?•!' 94 - 1, 3 w. 411".tere to each indi 114'i rt„t,evit'llllilled t : 8 .. 41 . ptl• head. It was' i t , t V , ‘' v5,,,,1"' enthi,„ ~Iv:1"ee it to 21: but: as 11 tit L ! 2 rlt 3/. t" "la 'Six titorrilts - 'the 41S Mii,a. Per man. It. was the l i ntel, 4 Ttt (/ • t)itlflalent to take th a a towanee now at 31 per, , There never wus noestino Of the L llt tci.eyirt . t.ils Nreies ot,forit.e. hut it ever .axio their 1 „ ; ,ieat nsejtilivt•s !tete ”ture existed, the exp tenet!, ut the T . ;i•ii months roust have tompletely :11,stpAtell ,stteh t att opinion. The in.tituer ill Aviiieh they had e.OO - themselves had ileterminedthe Goveritmetit , to ilace them .n the tullestedicieney, tor:that pile po!.e he would fiaVe tivertoposethe anee of 3/. per man, n Oh the fin thes sun) of 60001. to de fray the general expellee of pi:tin-loco% duty. Sir J. Cox IltretsLai , felt he would be WVII - in his duty, if he did not hear testimony In itie 101 l efficiency of these corps. Oil I wU) very recently, he had as a Mag.strate wit ne,sed their exertions, Though 'seat t, red over a disilict of 49 miles, and summoned io the .eats se of the might, they were all asieinhled for duty by nine o'clock in the morning. Lie would beg to press it on the Noble Lord, that the original sum of 41. Itas lolly necessary for the due effi ciency of that most useful force. Lord CASTLEREAGH concurred most decidedly ill the general merits of that species of force, than which none more conititutional could be called out in,ald of the Civil Pilwer. So impressed were his 'Majesty's Goveinment with the efficiency of the Yeommrty Force, that unless under that con viction they would not have been justified - in proposing to Parliament the low Estimates now in contemplation. 'Po the security they atfortleol, the country was indebted for the means of ecO manly ; he trusted that acknowledgment would still further . atrimate their efforts. , With every dispositton to afford the fullest means of efficia,c..p yet in time of peace he Must think the allowinCe of 31, per man ,uffiCient. Sir J. C. Hiretsunt explained. Mr. Comas; assured the Noble Lord (Castle reagh), that it thidispolitions of the people could ensure real retrenchment he ,vould easily procure that cheap iference, as every man would speedily evince such a disposition, mid at once enrol him sett, if economy in every practicable . shape would he the consequence. Mr. CoURTENAY bore testimony to the truly efficient state. of tile London Light Horse Vohsi n .' teens, and was convinced that the House had only to express its inclioation, and in the present state of the Metropolis, that very efficient Corps would be ConSideruhly recruited. Mr, L. KEcK thought 3/. not ,adequate, and with 21. per unto it was impossible to have these Cows efficient. Mr. SHIEENER EVllentred in the opinion of the 'great utility t ot these Corps, and of their receiving . a l;lteral allowance,, Mr. WYNN. thOtigitt the proposed addition to be necessary. Mr. cst.cttAFT was of the same opinion, . and Was glad to hear the enlogionis which had this evening been ritilsed on til t Y e onowey, He b l iofi ld Pll. is titture occasion chew, froth what had passed, quit there was no 'oecasititi for so immense all Army, especially when bitch honourable testluiony Was home to the . services of the leomantryi Mr. lia'aixo did not see that necessity for for• Cher rewaiding the Yeomanry,. which some. Un-, trouti!ble. Members pereeived. The National Unards gat Fralice, who it was well known" did the duty Of the metropolis, „ rreeived not a single siipeuce. He considered paying the Yeomanry ivoilid Ise a lowering of t heir character. Mr. RcialtXaort said a few words, after which the Resolution was !int ent! agreed to.- 7 The fol lowing , mots were then Vol ed -15,001. for the Volunteers in Ireland. • '4!),5061. for tits Es , ablishment its Chelisa.. 8,8001. fur Pensions at the liospitAl at Katmai:llmm. 395, , z00t. for Ont•l'ensioners at Chelsea. 84,7004. for Out-Pensioners . at Kiltuainliant. The CHANCELLoR of the EXCHEQUER then stated that he was glad to inform the'Hoose, that lie contributions due by France to this country were valti.very legularly ; and he moved that the Committee do grata the sum of one Irllllioti to his Majesty, to he given in such milliner as his Ma jesty should approve, -to his Grace the Duke of lVellington and the army - under his command, A saving of 500,0001. haul been effected during the last / year, aod this year there was no doubt similar seet would be saved. To enable his Ma,- esty-to apply that sum was the. object of his mo• tiet, Mr. tlnattvo hoped he Might, when this vote . was prop.srd, be allowed to say a few wards rvspeciing an operation in which he was indivi dually concerned, and which had been 'nab!) lois qpresented elsewhere Conscious that in that transaction he had done no more Wait !cis duty, he wits not avail affected by clamour or attacks made -against him. The share he had in the b ness was sniall, and the sum which would be sent out of this country could not in the slightest de• ee he ijurious to the country. All the money had been sent that was to. go. A noble personage who WAS in the habit of enlightening the.wm rld with Olirterly publications, had attached the prin. ciple of the transaction, and haul in support of his opinions • advanced extremely absurd doctrines. But he felt himself justified in WhaC he had done; as certainly every merchant must be, on the same around%. The CHAt,ICRI.LoR of the EXCHEQUER was per suaded no man could have acted with more can dtiur or propriety than the Ilon. Gentlemen who had just sat down had dope, in the transaction be had with the, Freneh GoVernMent. Before enter, img into any negociation- with that power, he had candidly told the Governtnent of this country what proposals were made to him, and expressed • in ti e most manly manner his, willingness to re- , linginsh any share in the traosactiou, if it Avert to prove directly or indirectly injurious to 'his country.. No pledge, no go irantee, .no s ocurit Y .44 any kind was given hint by Government ; but t'e was told ' that they saw tio injury whatever could result to , tht(country from the loan, but on the contrary, thought it might be belie'. tici , ,l to Europe, and to this country in particular, by contributing to the stability of - iiitee. ThiA was the view Ministers formed of the transaction; and be again repeated, that op individual could , have'acted with more candour, more upright tiesS, ,or mule integrity than the Hon. Gentleman had done..—The -Resotution: was then ;tare" to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXTME.QI.7F,tt moveol the sum millions to edy off some .Exchegner t3ills undischarged., Mr, BARNET' said tti ftw words, Which were nut distinctly , hemd its the Gallery. Mr, PONSONDY wished to know what would be, its the ettintatib: , . of I.!tr Chancel'atr. sf the tec4eitttet, the aßiottnt tait dc4r :IT: of Moo , ette CII,3„.NCELLOtt the E,g.:OI7IEQUER. reflikl, it wd'.ll.l hr , innegll.o more than 1,0 iotttioos. Parliantuht had lid 011.41 tii,:tre f;ou,000l. Iv the rtdoctont of the latery'st 0,:. is.kiLlNti be glad,to khow When the Cotteney - of 11 . elattit would - he altered? ' • • • • I: The CI lANCELLOA of the EXCHEQUER said, that pre . Ottratioos w e re toakin4 for that. r,• After a few words het weer. Mr. 0411U/till) , „tad the cellar of the Eicheipter, the Itesnliition wit' itxreed to. The .CII.INCELLOIt ..1 the EXCIIEQUIttt . then ',mired I 1;o0,0001. fu. paying, off some Exchequer Agreed to. , . . . Hy fort .er ntuvtd for the sum of 11,500,0001. fur paying thy interest of 14ellequer Bills, and tsi3Oilil. for paying Annuities on the Loyatt y Loan, whtcit were severAly Agreed to., . , ' • • • • The Hottse then rourned and the. Report was ordered to he brought nit to otortow. The CU ANCM.,I,OO, of the V:XCIli , ;(„1V1 , 41. movcd, th.tt on Wettnt, , l ,y the !loose r.eloat itself itiTII a Committee of the whole llou:t. rot tl,e Ways and Mratts...-Clidered SEDITIOUS ASSEMBLIES. . • 'Pti the-motion of the Solicitor-General, the House, went again'into committee, on the Se ditious Assemblies Prevention Bill. Mr. OtittNttY objected to the Clause enacting the punishment of death for the. pet sons who should not disperse in an hour after the Act had been read ,by the Magistrates. - The ATTORNRY-.OENERitt. defended the Clause, and contended that the Ao.wesuld be nugatory, unless such a severe penalty was denonoced to deter offenders. • Sir J. MACKINTogtI thookitt that the whole of the question rolled .upon this, whet herithe punish ment 'of death.should be affixed to sue); An offence.. Either disobedience to the law came within the Riot Act, and then the present enactment would he useless, or else it did not, and the proposed • punishment would go too far. He should think it preferable to Substitute, instead of the words " felony without benefit of clergy." those, " shall suffer transportation for a period of not less than seven, and ion more than tOortreu years." The Soucrilott-GENettat. defended the law as it was proposed. It would act as a law of preven ! Hon, rather than of punishment. The observa tions urged against it blight be used against the Rior Act itself ; which, tough lie did not recol lect "one prosecution for fdony tinder its provi sions, had operated, as be avished all Lite* to operate, to prevent evil. He thought it wise to enact the same penalty in the present measure, as in the Riot ACt. The object of the law would be weakened it a less punishment Were affixed. • Mr. BARCLAY aSketi,. whether many instances had not occurred, in which more than 50 persons bad- ietuaiiied assembled an hour aftr the reading of .fhe Riot Act, and t he law bad not beets exc • voted; as the punishment was. so severe that it "was . not dared to iutliet tt 1--(Hear, hear !)—lle trusted that his Learned Friend would propbse the alteration w Inch he had suggested in the shape of an amendment. Mr. W. SZIITH cootensled, that -laws of exces sive 4 . evetity defeated their own ends, Sir J. Cox 1-11PMLEIt bad had an.occasion, in the course of the last week, to read the Ruin Abt, though no . riot • hall yet been committed. but to persons whose object was to destroy coal. Be fore reciting the elauge,'he had thought it his doty to state to the miatitiolc the high penalties of the Act,' a.nd he was -confident that they had heellt he sltle.incitensertts ot their dispersion, ail , l that had the punishment been confined to trno.portation, it wonhl hare been of oo effect. A high penalty was its favisor of the peace of the coon! v, and the protection of the subject, but a Minor punish ment would render the Act a mere Brutum fu Mien: Mr. C. W. Wi'NNE cooceived, that the present was a ea,.e in whiep the highest penalty should be. enacted, es it was one of deliberate and actual re- . hellion. , if the law had not been put in force to punish offenders who refitted to obey the .Alagis - - trees,- "It had ,beco found necessary, more t h an once, to resort to wore summary ch3stisement. Sir J. MACKINTOSH maintained; that while the Riot Act inflicted the penalty of death only,on those _ who offered violent resistMlCS.to the law, the pre sent measure would press with equ.l severity on those,whose offence was mere non-compliance with it. He then proposed in amendment to leave ma after " Felony the words " without benefit of Clergy," and to snhstitute, " shall suffer trans portarion for a term nut less titan seven, and 'not 'exceedioi,c fourteen years." Lord CAsTIAReAGH believed that these was no law of greater Wisdom found in the Stehle Book than the Riot Act. 'He Objected • to having two laws on the-same subject with (titre rem penalties. There were now two alternatives before ,the' House ; tattier to invite the people by weak enact ments to open,resistance, which wonlil bring on the slinek of arni,, bloodshed, and rebellion ; or to arm the. Magistrates with a degree of power which might be mitigated by the Grown, but Which would be sufficiently strong to defeat the plans of the designing. - lie hoped the House Would take the Riot Act as the basis of its present nroceedingS. Mr. 'l'. SMITH contended that the Riot Act had neither been useful in 1780 nor in 1793. Ile'was of opinion :that the punishment of transportation would answer eeepy ptirpow, Attvr smite observations from Sir Robert Wit. giants, Mr. Wm. Smith, Mr. C. W. IVynne, Ser. jeant Best, and.llr.Stnith,theCommittee divided— Fur the original. Clause.— • 7O Vor the Mkt:minima 2s Majority fur time original Clause —44 On being re-edmitted, we found Sir J. MACK-, INT:osa complainiog of the Clause, by which powe r is g iven to 111,4gistlates to:arrest those who speak words cal elated to excite the people to contonts Government and the Constitution, as. by la w est ablilhed. • Tb is objection 'applied to:the word Government, which might be interpreted in the sense of Administroiou. - In t h at c „, a the sacred right• ot discussion would be lost, and .though the house might still recognise the exist enee of that right. it wok& render its exercise iMpossible. Iles should therefore propose the of the word '' Govetnnit•nt," heaving the clause in this state, " or.of the C o e is c a u t i u ly of the .realm, as by law estnblished." - • The SoLICITOR-LieNtittal. eintht nat agree to the amendment proposed. wotd Govern ment was almost synonymous w\th Constitution. It had been used in that sense in every indictment : . „ • . for. high treason, serliiion„, and seditious libel!, and. could oot lierefote...4e, Mismnitrstond. • .. ' ~..Mr. C: WyNick .ig , - - egdtha., rhy• phrase " Con- stitir i i :.}ate. noir!l lesshriOwn- ic) I;ik• lanoraKe 4)l' t. k e 1,-,:islatrtre than I he .word ,!' .Government," theme : 4 : 4ll.qt 4rt • hiei n'tt, CsaAlv 411),'1040us Sir J,11 1 :i ,MAortlNTryiti traid, if the phrase of the : Act had beet I he' Consritutioo of the GoA veroment," hr. woiild 11,1 v, HiHtle. no objection::. .11r. W. SMITH ti-at of opinion, that ally VelsOil Oiceting to the. SeptvolOal Act, wounl coine wit kin,the leiter of this clause, lieerms:e lr . ‘vould • lorrprobreoly.„,he objecting to ",‘, the Constitution as by Irw t•rtirolisio-d:" lie conceived it would be highly 44aron4ti:,io ;mini to giVe any Magist rate the power of jirevtuting any meetio4 II which such doctrines were proposed to be discussed. • . Lord CASTLEREAGH mnititaititil. that it s woubt he necessary to rest its the discit:lion Of the Magis trate whether . ..the words spoken at any meeting were calculated to instigate to rebellion.. When .4. it was known that : the object in ,calling meetings was to instigate the populace to treason and rebel. lion, it . was absolutely necessary to invest the Magistrate with the discretion of Judging whether miselrief. was intended., and, the conduct of the Magistrate would alto:whirls 'be decided on, by a Jury of the country., 'lndeed, ,if•thi.; clause were objected to, and to be altered as.- seemed •to •bti wished, the. Llonse might stop there at onee,: and need not think of enacting the eluOses which re." lated to clubs and private meetings. : The fair jet of the clause wits, that the Magistrate should be allowed,to i!xercise,his. discretion ,whether meet ings . and debates on reform of Parliament were consistent with, the preservation ,f the public: peace, the Magistrate being responsible and ame nable to the Jaws for •the way in which he exer cised that discretion.. , - %iir. Mr. W. SMlTH..s..aid, on. the arguthent of the, Noble Lord the first part . of the clause would be tjuite sufficient to : attain the object proposed.lint if the power were to be granted at all, it ,Tight not to be e.ntruste4 to fewer titan two Magistrates. Mr. LvT•tt.g•kosi objected to the - word " Go. vernment," on the same grounds as his Hon, and,' Learned Friend (Sit .I. - Mackintosh). It was not , denied that a Magistrate' who should Object to; 'words spoken against the measures of Mikristeta would he within the-letter of this Act i thouili• not within iti spirit.' Mr. 11. BATHURST said, that even in common . , parlance the word " Government " could OM correctly be used for his•MAjesty'S Ministers for the time being:. Brit in an Act the 'worth " GO eminent as by law established," could not pos.. sibly lie .construed to, Mean the Ministeri of the Crown for the time being: - - The word " Consti-': tution" alone had no determinate legal meanink. The objection of the Hots—aunt. (iNcr.W.Smith) .are to . vesting the discretion in the Magistrate s wonld r extend to prevent any offi'c'er hi.lug vested ' with any discretionary power what evil-. • • Lord CksTt.c ltisAGH .WiS)leil it 10 be observed, that the clause only gave the :I,rgistrate the poricf of taking nip the Individual speaking objections able words, and did not give the power of totally dissolving the meeting. • • 1 Mr. LyTTLETon thought that it the objection able words were removedi the powers of the Act would still be'stitlicient. •. - , Lord essTLEREAGn that the Maght tat e Who . prevented a meeting mast do so upon the notice pablished for holding it ; and as .t that notice was tectirdetil,,tic •NI ;list rat e's conduct would b e judged upon the narnre of that notice. But if the meeting 'was actually assembled, there being no thing objectionable in the notice, that aneeting could. trot be diisolved merely On account of sedl4.. lions language used by one individual. Mr. ‘l'''lrlttNe thought that upon the explanations . of the Noble (Castlateagis), the power of the Act ttid not go tar enough. • 111 r. W. SMITH alluded to the case of a meeting for Parliamentary Reform which was' lately pre - 4 vented by the High Sheriff for the Chanty of Cornwall, who had, in a. letter on the .Subject, stated such . reasons for preventing the meeting as, if correct, would have authorised hint to have gone and dispersed the meeting, if it hail been act natty assembled. • Alter a few words froth the Attorney-(,aenerali Mr. Wynne, Mr. Serjeant Best, and Lord Castle reagh, the question was put, and the clause agreed to as it originally stood. . Mr. W. Stairri-t proposed an amendment, that instead of one Justice the power should be given only to tu 0 Justices. The question Was put, and the - . Amendment rejected. • Sir S.,ROMILLY wished to knos - i , whether, as tai time power given to the MagiStrate to apprehend individuals, it might afterwards come in issue'on any subsequent legal •proceeding, whether the clis cretion of the Magistrate was properly exercised. The ATToRNEY-URNBRAL replied,, that the very words of the clause slimed that the Magistrate must' in the first instanCe' act on his iliscretion as to the words muttered by the imlividual. The ap , prehension of one individual did not dissolve the meeting. slhe SOLICITOII-GRNERAV said, that in those cases where a „Magistrate, acting on the view s acted erroneously, he made himselt liable to an action at law. A Magistrate, acting on tbi• Bill, caunot be legally 'resisted, while acting tinder iss power ; and it-he was resisted, he might disperse the meeting altogether. • Sir S. ROIIII,LY said, that Wording to the ex , planations now given, it would be better at.onct to put an end to Meetings, th its thus to give`every 'Magistrate the discretionary power of apprehend= in;; any individual Wirt) ought maintain stud) a Oro position, as that:the repier,entation'uf Seotland was it innekery4)layetli•elielltatisniTo authorise meetings -which. inighytie gluts antarnpted and di;solre•l a nut perhaps,. without bloodshed, would k b i e m i t ; is H e y . silt a few trbtoiltioiyit4lfag o ltiilst f - the elanse. • Sir M. W. spoke Mr. *Seriemit sutihitti the chose. Lord . VASTLEtte-aout set,. that evi!iy Mi - stt'hteate had utrefitlythelfpwer.ot apprehtmlint atiy ittiiivi dual who muttered 'editions languitge in s o that this clause, iii fact gave tio new power. It' the House meant - to prevent Meetings fLow being made the Kane of those dangers which e I atif,h.ri Ito so Lat'r Iner-tit3ddi.it ,plh e be4ll 01:11111ril;;, hti ` 9ll I mill hr It/4 qt ht. 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