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• The Mirtiny Bill ? Did 5t not prOve it to be a vital 'principle of Ow Constitntion, that the King Should have no Army over. which the House of: Commons might not exercise this annual . controul'? As to the distinetions between the Army of the Crown, and the Constitutional and Parliamentary Army, nothing could be more unfounded and absurd. knew of no Parliamentary Army since 1641-- 7 the - Army of the Crown was the Constitutional Army,'and the ConStitutional Army was -the Army of the King. ' Was the Parish Bill to raise that Constitutional Ykrrny' to whiCh the Hon. Gentleman seemed to refer, as a balance against the King's ArMy ? But was not that Army commanded - by Officers, no minated' by the , Crown ? Where then was - this boasted balaiic.e ? A kind of argument had also be6n drawn from the' conduet of the French Army in the seven years' War-,they were beaten in that War. Yes : but why not equally refer to the preceding War in which they were vi&brious? Yet during both the same system prevailed. Just as fair would it be to argue that the English distinguished them selves, and were vitaorious at the battle of Agin:-. 'court. Yet was the English Army then enlisted . for .unliMited service? As lame were the arguments .deduced from an allusion to the Swiss : - they were enlisted:for limited service, and that in the cause of a Foreign coontry. .Y,e - t when their term expired they looked to horne and Its endearments. Did that, however, unfit them for service—or what people has more of the military charaaer than the Swiss ? : But it is said that-the present proposition is a downright iptio6tion. Those, who ;notice such assertions cannot boast the happiest - ineMoriei. It . must be recollthed bY many in that House, that Col.. Barre, who was a nun well acquainted with m'"tary and alVotheraffiirs, had.often stated, that limited service Was..essential to 'the recruiting . and well being - of the Army : nor was it the' opinion Only of that distinguished man; and of the eretiry of War who succeeded him, but' alSo the gen.?.ral opinion of the experienced Officers of that titru. If the country .were content with the present Artily, it must be :content to quit Continental Connections; and to leave France to domineer . at' pleasure, He should,be,told thatour Fleets. would ride triumphantly on the. Ocean. He knew it : . they would destroy the COMmerce of Francethey would 'armilalate the ''.l..avy of 'France—hut' they could not 'repress the overbearing , power of France . on the Continent. Oh ! but thPn there was that ,glorious resource money ; we might subsidize—Ye alight pay-- 7 alihough we Could not shetv our hosti:- . lily in any other maniV...r. But the history of all Nations clearly spewed, that such modes of defend ing greatness had neV-er. been successful. In former • times this Country had made most glorious efforts fOr the good' of Europe, in the reigns of William and Anne ; but' it Ni , as 1101 by sitting in a counting house, doling but one guinea after another, that we . jould hOpe to emulate those efforts. This led•him to that dreadful altern:itive which, he had formerly mentioned, and• he- considered no Man fit for a - Statesman who was, not bold enough to contemplate , . it Steadily. The alternative was either to trust en tirely to our tnoney, to, diffuse our commerce, and to neglect all Continental considerations—or to be come a much greater Military Power than . we had . . ever before been in our history. If the Country . Preferred the ignominious parf of the alternative, let-1 them_ take it ; • but for. one, he would never parti cipate In the shame of styli a choice.' At 'the- same time he adMitted, that if there ever did exist a Na tion. capable of supporting itself in its insularity for a great length of time, it was Great Britain : it would be- safe, for many 'years : but; added to his political objedions to such, a systein, he had in -the present state of Europe great constitutional objee, tions' to it. With the present Thunswick Family we knew that we were secur,e';' but at some future period a Prince might arise willing to call in the aid of France to ferge the fetters of his people. He had no apprehension on the subje& of our Navy : its skill, its'valour, and above all, its reputation, se- . cured it a duration of superioritrwhich all the ef . forts of France would never be - able to diminish. Nor was he much more fearful on the subject of iiivasion. The Navy was a - great security against it: But even were that security passed. the spirit of the people would,, he trusted, enable theth to triumph over every 'hostile attempt. .To the Ho nourable Gentlerthanf; therefore, who asked, " Have you ,not :Troops enough to defend the Country Ie Wi" ould ansWer—YeS, and more. - So that if he saw' a good opportunity, he would . even risk a large portion of the in the attainment of a foreign object ; for 'he was convinced' that' those who were desirous of establishing a permanent foro at every vulnerable point- in the Em pire •would not contend succesSfully with France. Such 'had net been her system. if-by the inea sore in - contemplation we could obtain--..a large disposable farce, an opportunity might occur that would us to - attack France- (in 'concert with other PoWers) in such a way as to enforce just rind honourable .terms of peace ; or at least in any - - future pg - gress'iowi of that gigantic Power we might defend , oUr Allies frorn her attacks. Very unwilling , did he feel to balieve"the arguments Of the Gentle men opposite, when they contended that let what would be *dope, no better species of recruits could - •be procured than that which now filled our ranks, because :without 'that, he felt-the impossibility of increasing the 'military strength of the Country in the desired proportiOn, aild to such an increase alone could the Country look for Peace.- He wished fcir Peace, ;if Peace Could be obtained 'on honourable term's; but - to obtain peace, he would not consent to dissolve the Col. - Mkion of 'Great' Britain with the Continent, and to reduce her to an insular Power.' To obtain Peace (if he might' be allowed to repeat an expression which he used eighteen years ago, and :which was' then treated with ridicule) „he would not give. up a single point of honour. But to the con- . elusion of Peace, - it was necessary that' all the Belli -gerent Powers Should he induced to wish for it. What were the means likely to•obtaln'thiS deSirable end ? Those that: bad been taken by the late 'Ad ministration were ' , merely - temporary. , In the si tuation in ',which they hid,' seen - the Country, it iva, perhaps, natural for them to call in force of all ki;:ds; and to avail themselves 'of every species of defonce. Ms 'Majesty's present Ministers' were - plaCed in this 'ungracious sitnation=that they could' only I- ! p'pe to remedy the evils unt;er which:the Conn 'try* vroaned, by a remedy gradual acid peetraded.-:-._ They eeuld-n - ot-hopei by.-one splendid- achlevemd.ot, aalon---by one brilliant campaign,— rei:tale to Europe h6r rights :cud her independence. , _ by .or, This could only be effeaed in a length of eme, and, above all, by A. great increase of our mili tary power ; and •he could not conceive any Plan to likely to facilitate . the attainment of this ob,.' jea as that suggested by his Bight • Hon.•Friend,— It would put till, Army of, Great . Britain on a re speaable footing; and prevent those prejudices which now existed against the profession of a soldier. He Was aware that the effect would be slow, for great revolutions in opinioti could not be made in a mo ment, but it would be certain. He felt that it was his duty to risk popularity and power for the purpose of endeavouring to place this Country in the rank which she formerly held among the Nations of Eu rope. He felt that every Minister who swerved from what he esteemed his • duty was a politiCal coward. He should not think himself a good ser vant to the King, if he did not give His Majesty his best advice ; he should not think himself a good servant to the People if he condescended to flatter them; he should not think himself a good and ho nest Legislator if he did not come down' to the House, and, without regard to other circumstances, propose such - measures as seemed to him most con ducive to the general welfare. Mr. YORKE explained. • , . Mr-PERcivAL opposed the measure at consider able length. He made a calculation, by which it appeared; that by the measure proposed, each man, after t years service, would be found to have cost 501.84. instead of 16 guineas the present bounty for 'y=ears, besides the annuity for life, of a shilling per day, Which was worth 1801. and which therefore added to the other sum, made 2301. The Questidn being loudly called for, the Com mittee divided, when there appeared, • . For-the Clause , - - 254 ' Against it.. - 125 Alajoriiy - -129 • The 'Motion then being pa, that the Clause be read .a first time—,- ViScount CASTLEREAGH moved, that the Chair man do report progress, and- ask leave to sit again, it being.too late an hour'for the. introdu6tion of anew _question. • • • Mr. Fox declared, this would answer no other purpose but that of delay, .and that the principle of the, Clause now proposed had been taken into con sideration in- the p;eceding discussion. ViSCOUIIt CASTLEREAGH replied, that the Clause ,now proposed was distirr& from the Clause to be left ,out, and required a distill& substantive discussion. , Mr. PERCIVAL and Mr. CANNING supported. the argument of Viscount Castlereagh. Mr. Fox repeated, that'it would only answer the pUrpose of delay. , Mr.:. YORKE said, . questions of much less import ance had been the subje&s of an adjourned Debate ; and all that was required was, an opportunity to dis cuss the Clause. Lord Dz BLAQUIERE considered the present con versation a waste of time. Vis Count Hoi,vicx said, that the proposal was new and extraordinary, and put it to the House, whether, if delay were not the obje&, it was not proper to proceed to the next stage, and reserve any farther debate upon the Clause for a future opportu nity? , • Mr. CANNING again spoke in favour of the Mo tion for reporting progress. Sir W. YOUNG said, that when the Mcition was made for leaving out the words, the House was, aware of the, words to be substituted, and that the > principle of course was already discussed. Mr. PERCIVAL said it ,Was a new question, and required,a new disCussion.. 'Mr. WINDHAM contended, that-the words to be left out, and the words to; be substituted, had been debated together. Doctor LAWR ENCE spoke on the same side. Mr. BRAGGE BATHURST, Mr. ROSE, and Viscount CASTLEREAGH, argued for a discussion of the Clause. A division then took place on the Motion that . the Chairman do report progress, and ask leave to sit again; which was negatived, upon a division. — Ayes, '74. Noes, 188. The question then being put, that the Clause be read a first time : it was carried upon a division-- Ayes, 164. Noes, 40.. Mr. PERCIVAL then moved, that the Chairman do now leave. the Chair, which was negatived, upon a division : Ayes, 64 ; Noes, 153. It was then moved that the Clause be read a se cond time. _ _ . 7 • Mr. YORKE opposed it, and said - he should move that the Chairman should report progress—(a loud dry of move,- move r) • Mr'. WHITBREAD said, that this was a most vex atious proceeding of the part of the Gentlemen op . - posite. Mr. YORKE moved, that the Chairman do now leave the Chair. This'induced a long conversation between nearly the same Members. The SPEAKER gave it as his opinion, that. this motion might be repeated frequently in the course otknight, because, though it might not be. fit at a preceding moment, , it Might be . ht at a subset - idea one. , Mr. WILL .AM SMITH said, he never Witnessed such a proceeding._ ~ • Mr. Fox observed, that unless the HoUse should adopt some strong measure,„ a few Gentlemen, ,by taking: the present course, might 'at any tirne.deleat •and obstru6t all publiC The House then divided on the Motion, that, the Chairrnan do now. leave the Chair,, which was ne . ,gatived. Ayes 5 2---Noes 133. • It was then moved, that the Clause be read a se cond time, and a debate ensued. , • • The SPEAKER said, that the Muse was M a very undesirable state, and recommended that the Clause should be re?rd a • second time, -and that the debate upon the principle should take place when the •Mo tioir should come to be made, that the Clause do stand part of the Bill. Viscount CASTLEREAGH and Mr. STURGESS BOURNE contended 'for an opportunity of 'debating the principle in the present stage. Mr. WILLIAM SMITH ,and Lord HENRY PETTY spoke agai,rist it. Many metfeaual efforts .were made to compro ' mise the business ; Mr. SHERIpAN at' length said, that 'R s be saw he Gentlemen were :determined 'not to give up any point, he would recommend , it to twenty or thirty of his friends to go honap,, 'sleep foi' a few hours, and get - . their breakta44 ; after which they might come back fresh, and relieve their iiearied 'Companions. This speech was hailed with loud acclamations ; but shortly after, 'on the Motion of Mr, WILBRA HAI4 BOOTLE, who stated, that, though the mode in which the House was proceeding might ne entertain ing to some of the Members, yet it should not be laid before the public ; the strangers were ordered to withdraw, After about half an hour's further Debate, we understand, on ,the suggestion of the Spe,aker, it was agreed that an Amendment should be proposed, pro forma, on Monday, -so as to permit .of a further discussion- on the principle of the Clause. . . The Chairman was them permitted to leave the Chair, when he reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again.—Adjourned at HALF PAST SIX O'CLOCK, Anti! Monday. MAILS. ARR IV ED—I Dublin; t Waterford Dub—t Hambuth, Gottenburgh, I Lisbon, i Dublin, t Waterford. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWILVE O'CLOCK. Reduced Ann. LONDON, SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1806. YESTERDAY Letters of Marque and Reprisal were issued at the Admiralty to capture or destroy all Prussian and Pappenburgh Vessels, except those to which His Majesty's License had been granted._ The greatest exertions are -making by, the Board of Admiralty, and the subordinate departments, to augment our Naval Force ; no less than eleven Sail of the Line, how in ordinary at different ports, are to be immediately commissioned. American Papers to the 22d ult. have been re ceived.' The Bill for Prohibiting the Itpportation of certain Goods from Great Britain has been passed in the Senate, by a rery considerable Majority, and now qnly wants the Signature of the President to -- become a Law. 'There is, hdwever, every reason to hope ,that the differences between. the two Coun tries will be amicably adjusted. - The American Go vernment haveappointed-Messrs. 3. MONEOE and J. PINCKNEY to be Commissioneks Plenipotentiary for settling the points in dispute with Great Britain, • Tins morning the Hamburgh IVlail duct on Wed nesday arrived ; but from the great length of the Debate, we are only enabled to give a brief abstra& of its contents. A Correspondence has taken place between the KING of SWEDEN and the KING of PRUSSIA (as we stated some time ago). Nothing is'positively known as to the contents of thq . Letters which have passed between these Sovereigns, but the orders which were issued to the Garrisons of Berlin and Potzdam, to hold themselves in readiness to march, have been countermanded. There is no intelligence of import ance from the South of Europe,. but the Evacua tion of Cataro, by the Russians, ikspoken of as at event likely to take place. Mr. WINDHAM'S Plan for Recruiting the Army, by Enlistment for limited Service, was taken into consideration last night in the House of Commons, and produced a long and highly inTeresting Debate. Nothing very new in point of argument was brought forward on the subje&, .but the ohjeaions to the Measure were answered with great force, of argu ment by the Honourable, Member. Ile,.perseyeres in limiting the. Enlistment to seven years ; and in order to obviate the danger that might arise from dis charging those whose period might,expire while the Country was engaged in War, he, proposed to invest the Crown with authority to extend. tie period of their service for three years. This Additional Clause is certainly a great improvement of the . intended Plan, and will, of course, conciliate many per sons who ..have opposed it.'. ; Mr. WINDIIMM'S Pro position was agreed to by a Majority of 129. is mentioned that on order, under the him c's Sign Manual, has been rkeived at the India House, fbr the recall of Sir GEORGE -BARLOW, preparatory to the appointment of Lard LAI/DEADALE to be Go vernor-General of India. The following Order was.yesterday issued from the Admiralty By the Commissioners for Executing the Office of Lord High Admiral of the United Kingdom of Great Uri— ' tain and I rcland, &c. The Right Hon. •WI i LIAM WrN`nHAst, one bf his Ma jesty's Principal Secretaries of State, having by his Letter of the r ith inst. acquainted us,that his Majesty had been pleas ed to order Letters of Marque and Reprisals to be issued against the Ships, Vessels, and Uoods of Prussia, as well as of the town ot Pappenburgh ;-and at the same time signified to us His Majesty's pleasure that we should give orders to all Ad. mirals and Commanders of lis Majesty's Ships and Vessels, wherever they may be-stationed,' to seize or destroy all Ships or Vessels belonging to, PruSsfa, and to the town of Pappen burgh, except any Shipaor Vessels 4o which His Majesty's Licence has been granttsi,orwhich have been direded to he re— leased from the E nib:Argo We do,M pursuance of H isM ajest y's pleasure, signified to us as aforesaid, hereby require and dired you to seize and destroy all Ships or Vessels belonging to Prussia, and to the town ot Pappenburgti, which ,you may he able to fall in with; save and except any Ships or Vessels to which Ills Majesty's Liezitce 'has been granted, or which have.beendirected to be released from the Finbatgo, accord. ingly ;: and to give the like clireCtions to ail the Officers em. • "•• ploiedxinder your command. ( - ,iven under our hands; 29th rf ; May, . To the respedive Flag oilierrs, Captain, Commanders, and Commanding Officers ot His Majesty's Ships and 'w -sels. • • By Ck•mixiand of their Lordships. . :• .- .Yesterday morning, at an early hour,- an alarming fire broke out at the house of Mr. Tommxs, Grocer, in Toolkty-street * constimed the littme. 2.41E271C.1. PRILADELPII/g, APRIL 1 . 6. --.On Tuesday, the 15th inst. the Speaker of the House of Representa tives laid before the House the following Letter from the Secretary of the Treasury " Treasury DepartMent, April -15. " In answer to the request contained in the Resolution , of the House of Representatives of the, ith inst. I have thelo nour respedfully to state,, that no application has been made to draw money from the Treasury, for the purchase of the Floridas, before an appropriation made by the law for that purpose. The circumstances which 'may have produced an Impression that such an application had been made being un conneded with any Matter appertaining to the Office of Se cretary of the 'Treasury, are not presumed to come within the scope of the information required from this Department by the House. (Signed) " A. GALLATIN:a A Philadelphia Paper of the same date says.— " The Ambassador from treeßey of Tunis having been sent to the Unitdd States, in consequence of the seizure of a' small Cruizer, under the flag of Tunis, With three Vessels, her: prites (all of trifling 'value), off Tripoli ; which Vessels the Bey insisted should be restored, with threats of war, if refused ; it was refused ; and, in reaped for the Bey, the Ambassador was informed that the Vessel Would be restored; upon which the Ambassador insisted upon a quantity of stores being sent to Tunis for the use of the Bey, which was also refused, and the Ambas sador was about to depart for his own country." The Senate of the United States have consented to, and advised, the ratification 'of the Tripolitan Treaty. The votes were—Ayes 22—Noes 18. On Tuesday the 15th inst. the Senate passed the Bill.from the House of Representatives, prohibiting the importation of certain British goods, without amendment—Ayes 19—Noes 9.--This Bill now wants only the signature of the President to become a law. -PHILADELPHIA, APRIL 21,-4 letteffrom a Gen tleman at Was4ington, dated on Saturday, says : " The Senate have this day received from the President a nomination 91 JAMES Mtriv twit and W t.t.t PUICKNE't (the latter of Maryland), to be ppmmissioners Plenipotentiary and Extraordinary, for settling all our differences wi th Great Britain, relative to wrongs' committed between the parties (the United States, and Great Britain), on the high seas'orother waters, and for establishing the principles of Navigation and Commerce between them." 1 3 1,YmouTif, MAY eg.—Arrived the Portuguese Schooner Rosalie, Capt. CIIEVEY, • from Lisbon, bound to Nantz, laden with sugar, Or.c, 'detained by the Milbrook Schooner. Arrived also the Kent, of 74 guns, from the Channel Fleet. Sailed the , lliercurius ; Tifoasow, for Hamburgh ; and Diana, ROMEll,.for . London. The Lalona Frigate ; lately arrived froni the In. shore Squadron off Brest, has come in to be repaired, On the 22d inst. the- signal was made from-the Int s petueux for that Frigate to go as close in as possible and reconnoitre the Eriemy- in doing which she un fortunately •struck upon a rock. She almost Muller diately threw out a signal that she was making three inches of, water in .a minute. The Fleet hove sight, and • the Diamond was. ordered to see the Latona safe into Plymouth ; which service having performed, the Diamond immediately returned tp her station off the Black Rocks. The Latona fell in; - a few days since, with a French Fishing-boat, from the crew of which in 4 formation was'obtained, that the Enemy's Fleet, at Brest, consists.of ten Sail of the Line, one of which is in dock; the remaining nine Sail, with two Fri gates aft 3 a Brig of War, have their sails bent; but the general state of the Ships is very bad, and greaily out of repair, and extremely ill manned, grpt part of their crews having been drafted to complete the complement, of men sent in the Squadrons which have been detached, at various times, from thence for the East and West Indies. Naval stores are stated to' bb very scarce, for the want of which the artificers in the Arsenal are not employed more than, two-thirds of their time. The names of the 5111134 at Brest are stated.to be as follow . kepublicaine, Invincible , L'Ocean (three decker), lean Part, TourviLle, Batave, W ate, L'Ailiance Julie, and Len citieror, of 74 guns each Topaze and I, l ll:dien c iigates, and a Brig. PORTSMOUTH, MAY. 30.—Arrived the ~/itzte/ope Brig, and has made signal for the East India Ships to drop down to St. Aden's to-morrow, and will sail on Sunday. Also arrived La Fleelie Sloop of War, from off Havre.; Moitcheron Gun-brig, Lieut. HAW SS, from. a Cruize ; Union; DONALD, .• from heath; Hope, HUTTON, from Chepstow; and the&solution Packet, GODFREY', 'from Jersey. yesterday a Ballot was taken at the East India House on the following question, viz. That this dourt having considered the Papers laid before " it, most highly approves of. the . teal.inanitested and the " conduct pursued by the Court of, Di.eztJrs, and regards a " firm adherence to the principles in4l;ll4mM by the Court " of Directors to be indispensibly 11Cce,sray to preserve the " salutary authority over the Goveintnents-of India, vested " by Law in the - ColVf of DirecUrr, ;o restrain a profuse " expenditure of Public Money. arid to prevent all schemes " of Conquest and extension of. Dominion, measures which " the Legislature has des,lared to he repugnant to the wish. , " the honour, and the policy 01 the Nation ; and this Court " cloth assure the Court of Directors of its most cordial and " zealous Support, with a view to preserve unimpair " ed the " Rights and Privileges of the Last India Company. • At sit o'clock the Glasses were finally closed, and delivered to the Scrutineers, who, at eight o'clock, made theirreport, when the 'numbers were as fol low, viz-. ,For the Question 928—Against the Ques tion 195—Majority.733. KING'S . BIRTH PaV,.H.Tviierity-five Thousand Pounds will be given toilieiVirst-drawn Ticket next Wednesday, June 4, being thesixth day's drawing of the present Lottery. Tbe advantage ,of purchas ing - at this period is obvious, when so great a propor tion of the Tickets are drawn, and the Wheel still contains nearly 140,0001. in Prizes:r--Tickets and Shares warranted -undrawn continue on sale" at SWII7 and Co.'s Old Office, in the Poultry. 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