The Sun. — London, England, 1817-02-22 00:00:00

',lib , . %%1111 11 permanent (UMW TO M4INt tt , elll. to the great holden of the poor rate* hieing now :"Oil the landed property, is would go aloisg with the [fon. ereotlentan in the abstract principle, that if. personal property e.. , 0141 be brought in to contribute, it would he well. .Bat to this he saw aita,:+; insuperable oblections. Yet he . would oot wish to be tho4glit the less ardentin , than business, becaus e l ie w o u ld not go into the Committee with the blind determination of ex tendiog this tax to a kind of property, to which it sigh tint How extend. The, lion. Gentleman not yet , have forgotten all the difficulties attendatit on the taxation of personal property There was no feeling or principle more to be de. pvecateil, thin that a parish), burdened Id the dr. most, shout.) get its hand into anOther parse, and when it had dune so, then become inditrent to the admiuistration of these Ifi , vg. lie begied not to be misanderstood. lie wished that they should go into the business like, Statesmen, and not leave impreision on the public mind which must be onanctive mitt,a,:s. They Wight to go into the Committee with a firm tie termination to struggle against that evil,. which the whole system of administration hitherto tend ed to angment. If be had the iltnionr to be a Melllber of the CotriMittee, he would not go into it with any favourite idea nit the subject,—(llear, hear, hear l)--but with a mind unprejudiced, with a heeling, that if something effeettml was not now done, that system would grow worse which now threatened its with ruin. lie world go too, under the deepest impression of the difficulties which bang arouud the question inn haiever tight it was vieWed,—(lle4r, liar, hear !)—The Noble Lord then spoke highly in praise pt the system of Sal'. lugs They ought to be supported and eucouriged by the Legislature in every possible wiry. He could not, therefore, approve of that pair of the pbor of the lion. Gentleman, which tended to iii he the contributions of the labour. ing classes compulsory. If any attempt was luade +lr ennyukion. it Seemed to hint that inevitable Consequence .would be to bring down the-whole system of Saings' system now gaiiiing gvonntl, anti wbielt ought in be nou rished mid suppO t led by all possible means. 011 these grounds b e wou ld Cau ti on the lion. Gentle. man to look, with a calm and unprejudiced eye, at this part of the subjt•et. Ou themprinciples, and feeling that they were called upon, nit every side of the House, to lay aside all party feelings, (Wear, hear, hear !) and to bring to the consi deration of the subject the utmost indu,try and their best judgment, be supported the motion with the utm o st ze, 6 l nod cordiality ; and with the deepest sense of duty which lie had ever felt on any ocrasion.----(Luud cheering from every port of the [louse.) Mr. etiRWEN wished to say one word in expk. nation. lie did not mean that the slightest de. gree of coercion should lie used its to Savings Riuks ; his plan was to. be ,adopted only where it sour the wishes of . the majority of the pa , ti*hioners. The motion WWI then ngreed to without ollpo• skim), mid the Metiihers Of tho Committee were *pp„inted. The following are the names of the Alembirts it .1,--. Mt. f i ord Castlerongh, Mr. F Lewis, Mr. D. Bathurst, Mr. ghtriog, Mr. Rope, Nir.Drand, Mr. tloAkson, Mr. I,ogh Kruk, Mr. Dieltrogon, L‘4ll tasuelles, SrO James shaw, Mr. Fitzhugh, Virtl Stanley, Mr. C. Dari.las, Mr. navies Gilbert, MI, Cartwright, jrS T. Coirtonay, Mr. MI. ford, Mr. F. Robinson, Mr. Morino Pitt, Mr. S. Bourne, Sir Thomas Auland, Mr. W: EAST INDIA SIIIPPINg. OMr, CANNING pret,ented a petition. from certain roprietor 4 Of the East India Company, praying for leave to bring in a Hill to anthorise certain al. lowanees to be made to the shipping employed by the Company. The Pohion was read, and ordered to be re ferred to a Select Committee, Mr. littouott,Ass presented a petition front cer tain other Proprietors of the Lost India Com pang, and praying exactly in opitosition to the other Petition, which they stated was agreed at a meeting of Of) wore than forty proprietors, asdetn bled on 24 hours notice, kw-ratios of whom (ex cept. the Directors) were ship owners. petiti o n was also rend, and after :a few words bet wren Mr. CANNING and M r. Baotyonam, was ordered to be referred to the same Coou• mittee. Mr. GOULIit/HN obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Art or the 43d Geo. 111. relative to the Conveyance of pissengers abroad. A MEMIIKII, whose name we could not learn, Oltained leave to briar; in a Bill to amend the Law relating to Grand Jorles la . lrehond. The Papers presented to the louse relative to Extents in Aid, were ordered to be printed. Ailjottrned at lialt-past Ten o'clock, till Mon. dily next. Dunft MAIL A Dutch Mail arrived this morning : the fol lowing is the only article worthy of 'mice :-- Baussacs, Fan. ls.—The letters from the French, frontier say, that the Civil and Military Authorities have been t officially informed that as. • ti,ono as the season permits 36,000 men of the Army of Occupation will leave .Vrante. Of the British troops 6000 go away, and th e ot h er 24,000 ere to be taken from the Bavarian, Mar. temhurg, Saxon, and Danish corps, so that the Russian, Prassian, and Austrian contingents re- main entire. This news has caused a general satis- ' faction, which i 3 increased by the fall in i'be prices ', of corn at the marlteth of Arras, Lithe, and other towns."-:--(llaurlent Courani, Feb. 16 ) Gold is at 3C. 18s. 6ii. Der ounce; stantlttrti ►►ilver at ss. Id. AI4I'MUNOtiY.--tir. WALititu contmenoed his Lectures last night at the Lyceum, when the Stt l►tr System and the great Phenomena of the [lt:4• liens were finely illustrstcd by that Getitieman, to the infiuite grutification of all present. 1. II arlticlll, i:E s.r It, *** No Perfurnsatteei at e;tlo,r of the Th;:ittres la,t Nighl ALL Int MN. THE StN. totEm (els mcEiti: VALW ‘I DEAT ! LONDON, 5.171,1t11,1Y, FEB11(1.4171r ISI7 contest of this scrt. We are iu truth amazed'at the proeeedingS of last night. A person of the 1141/IC of Thomas Cleory, notorious as the Secretary of many a demagogue meeting., delegate association, and Reforming Society, but choosing here to describe himself as " Secretary to the London Urrion •So ciety,ll impudently ventures to insult the [louse of Peers with syliat be calls a Petition ! A Peti tion from the Secretary of a Society, in the body of which Petition it is stated, that " it is not now cristence ! " Was there ever such wockery as t hi s ? S me ly, no Nobl e Lord read this seanda lons imposition, calculated for no other purpose,. but to penile.); and .retard the measures ft)). our national security, or they would have reptile' lit (Meg With appropriate indignation, the .clumsy and insulting artifice.. But Alt. CLeAttY, or rather the gang of which he WAS the organ, furnish plenty of other grounds for the m irked rejection of this document. They quibble upon the various names which they give to their seditious combinations . . " The London Union Society" hiss not done what the Lord's Re port alledges 4 London Union Society bias com mitted ? does it signify to the country a farthing how the man, Thomas CLEARY tag us were the founders (done of them, denotminate their revolutionary associations ? IVhot do we care whe ther CARTWRIGHT changes '' The Union" into The.Delcgates," and BLIRDETT " The Union" into "'['he ilamptlen," or whether "The Union'' whose Secretary still survives, though he assures us the Society exitts no longer, identical or not with that Club to which 0144: Lordship's Re. port refers ! There is nothing in their appella tions : we see the same actors, the same prin'ci. pies, the lame fruits, and because an accomplice comes forward with a premature defence and in an impr i oper place, there are advocates for para lyzing, on this foundation, the measures for which the critical state of the times so loudly call, But ►were every word of this Petition trite, as it is self-evidently false, we will contend that it would not contain a single good reason for halting in the course recommended by Government. We leave hr Partianientary objections to Parliam'ent, and si,c how the noose of Peers could entertain a paper, which, jo direct contra►lietino to the fner and their own Report, asserts, dont +lionins Cleary saw in the, said t (what no one else has seen), "'Phis Lendon Union Society represented, not only as be. ing stilt in existence, but busily and extensively at work, esta. blibbing branches and affiliations, carrying on an active cor respondence,• infusing life into Societies of Spenrean Philan thropisti, and producing, by these means, plans of Conspi racy, Revolution, and Treason !". All this ii utterly false-.-e! there is no such thing"—and yet it is the ground on which this fellow is posited on to attempt .interrupting the course of legislation at ontrof the most momentous eras in oily history. And is it not passing strange that any Peer could be found to sanction Such dapery--to join with the jacmhia, Secretary CLEARY,(It paticepscrindnis in theOffence charged) in insinuating a censure upon the illustrious Com mittee to whom thew grave inattdra were submit ted---to prefer this demagogue poppet's assevora tion to the deliherateopinion of the most able Hod distinguished characters in the rcaJin on 4 sub- Tills DAY %VEER TOE i.OITEAY WILL BE MAILS. Annwin)-41 irenntitirgli, I Holland, 1 Dublin, t IVAterf ,, rd DIY E-1 France, 1 Lisbon, 4 Ilatuburgh, 3 Otiltetabargiv Gutnnsey and Jersey. PRICE 01.` STOCK'S two 1,4 I,Av AT rwr t per ('ent. It, d... Ce l l/ Aith. • • • . 17 4 9 rlnths to rlen . Coni . • fitik IN India 11tntt14,......2,14. •:t9s. 4, per Crittg 81 Exch. pr, 5 per Ct. Navy Ann..... 97 Coins. tut Needtint,....Gai I JIG! I W.VITIL 1,0N1)()ti BR! DGF: TO-NIORROW. tloriting, Ya itiiiitnes lifter 6. Kveiiiiig, 53 minutu4 after ii. No one has II higher opinion of the ingenuity dud craft of the Seditiot.s Leaders of the p resent day th a n we have. Their attemptto /min . /moth the House of Lords last night was only worthy of their genius, and with all our respect for the ag gregate wisdom of their Lordships,we really think they shewed themselves no match for the CIIIMiug Revolutionists. Something may indeed be ascribed to the advantages which the Faction obtained from iht viol; so able a diversion made in their favour in the enemy's camp—such allies as the Opposition Lords proved. themselves to he, uffil especially Lott! Gaosvetioa, are not to be despised in a liis Lordship teas a Letter of Thlnlsa from Copal:Tr to day—no wonder !—Siekilis•siaeilique;;undet. We speak po htically. God forbid we should insinuate any similarity of character in other respects. We know the power of names. The Bill brought In by Lord 11)StriUTI1 yesterday is not a Bill to stispend the Habeas Carpus Act, but a Bill for the Preservation of the Public Peace. Let us not then be misled by a title which is inconsistent with' the nature of the proposed measurc,• and fancy our liberties en dangered because our lives and property's ate se cured.—The Morning Chronicle nty, indeed, say, as it does, " We are threatened with the suspen sion of the Habeas Corpus Act ;"—in Tttt SuN the expression would be " ire are promised an Act to prevent the disloyal and revolutionary from plundering and murdering the loyal and well affected." We understand the measures in question are expected to have the force of law within one week—during their progress we shill! take ocra 'ion to offer those remarks which we cannot find space lot to-day, The Committee of Inquiry, consisting of Mr. ilsocAt, Lc,r►l BINNING,. and Mr. S . rultoEs BOURNE?, have ir.rtetc ti Report of their Poceeci it)o. The Offices created the commence ment Of the War in 1793, referred to their con sideration, trFre as follo►rs : " 1. Agent General of Volunteer , . 2. Army Medical 3. Foreign Department of the IV.,r Office. 4. .Account of the War Office.. .. Coonniisitiners of 11;►rrack Acc+►uuts. C. Office of ‘Vcst India t:otun►issioners. 7. Alien o:lice, 6. Paytn4Aers of Emigrant,. 9. Property Ta%, and Land Tax ftegi3ter Office Eitrt blistnuenti. 10. Inspectors General of Taxes. It. Resident Commissioners of the N4vy and Victualling Fatal/I'l4m i 12. Commissiunera for the Reduction of the Nationul Debt. 9. Deputy Paymasters General on Foreign Stations. 4. Office of Counnisvtry in Chief. Storekeeper General's ()dice.- 16 Barrack Department 17. ( ;ouitoiisiouers of Colonial :Ithfit. 18. Stampollice,Legacy Duty Department." Their recommendations with regard to these, nod the Treastiiy decisions thereon, are as foi l__ Low, No. 1, Report.—There, is no reason for con tinuing, except for the settlement of Arrears' ac• entinti, and it is submitted this might be curried on at the War 011ie?. Decision.--eAbolislie t l by Treasury Minute, 3d January. rwis Establishmew, exclusive . of contingen- I cies, cost about 3,4001. per arm: No. 2.----Reduced from an annual exPence _of • 7,6521. to 4,2841. 124. at home, and abroad, the Medical Stair tram 349 to 254, and the expeuce from 65,6301.. to 49,8341. ; and a further reduc tion of 41 011icets and 8,0001. per'ann,ton tinder consideration. No. 3.-...-EconOmical alterations 'proposed, in progress, and adopted. • • No. 4.—Gradual reductions ordered as quickly as practicable, and the Office to be reviewed half yearly for that purpose. No. fi.—To be entirely abolished if the accounts are clOseti at Latly•day, and at furthest at Ad , summer. Saving 5,000/. per annum. No. 6.—The whole Establishment to be re duced. One of the Commissioners dead, and his place not filled up. No. 7.--This °Mee cost 9.5361. Gs. It has been reduced since the Peace by 6,4351,, including a charge 0 12,094/. for snperannuations—humediate annual saving, 4.3411. It is left Ti) Lord s m . stotrrn to diminish this branch still further. No. B.—ln train to be retiuced more than one half, N0.9.--I0 be reduced 6,7291. in tile first branch, anctconsidersibly in ale second. jeCt SO InAturely investigated' —the thing is mon struts. But it • %re inist arraign the general principle, what shall we say of the particular line adopted by onie Noble Lord ?* Wai it neteh.svy to soperarld revolutionary example to revoltitinnail precept? To fall ioto the train of HUNT and Coit sETT, and designate ludividnttls by name for po pular odium? Surely this was nowise in the pre sent perturbed state of the Country ;—surely it was 'mit/ding totvards the,e vidttalso heir families, and friends— sorely it teas the reverse of bravery to n'ta4 them n her e t h e y' cou ld not defend them selves. Inv give such countenance to the" Black Book" composers ; but let it pass, for it can do little harm, CANNING, Mr. BwritunsT, and Lord CASTLEREAGH stand already too high in the opinion of thOse who love their' Ctinntry., not It, have long since been marked out for vengeance by its Enemies, should their boor of triumph ever onhappily arrive, which we trust it, God it never will. the crivA°f° per annum. No. 11.—A number of a bolitions 1 1011111 and 'every one attended tit. Nosonsstlo No. 12.—N0 Reduction. The °lkea tare is not to he filled up ogeh). No. 13.—The Officers at Nerfnatulloa.ti tnaica, and 13ermutia, discontinued-4i! and Malta united—and other birge savine No. 14.—Very considerable Retlactiostn.lll and abroad, by transferring the duties, No. 15.—Recommended to be 'third sill as possible tinder the Barrack Departinestf,l a considerable saving of expence. • , No. 16.—Reduced 8,-1351. 6s. 111 ja laries of officers —15,8121. in the rent of —and ordered, from the 24:11 Decet aber i; be under only o n e C o mmissioner, end °L ' I " great reductions to be made. No. 17.—N0 reduction expedient. No. 18.—The Clerks employed 00 ness• to be discontinued. We have time to-day for nothing I/ ti t satisfactory Ab s t rac t of Economy sif t ment which has been going on allisst pe st '7 o the Report i 3 only made public nom : fi l o ment is every way so important and 0 11, ‘ that w e intend to lay it entire beforenorl'o• though we eimld not deny ourselves thei t ~i ibt ° of gil'ing so conclusive an answer to tourers against Ministers fur not . 11 11 1 of red uc i ng t h e tuitional circa" „re meeting of Parliament. el! Part of the suite of the Ert-Es101"' rived from St. Helena in his 51 'i e ; 111 '1 1 Orontes, at Pottstown'', oneof %rho° 3 111 0 1 f, fish Count Po NIATOW SKY, who fit'sbeen' vonrite, and the follower of ThYOO4 It 0 through most of his various forlu nes ' to Is We were the first to comrntinic' Public!, found fICCVVSRry to TCMOre illi9 others from the . 1,1:;ce where they Il'e"3tic-0 114 1 to curly on int r igues, and this g3Afid ; 7 ; 13 Star RS A 1)119011t1 t o the # , oi , e• Such er s arc dangerolo Whyrc in thes e fiuic-5, hut We dou bt 9'4°41 1 0 vigil:thee of Government will idled ° P rey° flout doing oti3ellief in this Country. Ilvrolvrt:D INSiIftV,PCIIO:I AT 1 1‘ 101 / 1 0 II hol from the highest oulk trit/' ', 4 : l ofi l° ct t he report cif an Insitrreetion here is not the slightest intnitlatitnt 011 • • 0 1111 / 1 P I f ort "' elf " , received slit 9 1 . 1.11110t1E. . --......,,,,,..-- . b I V ; 'rho trials of pers ons cliiir i ,.:ed ''' til il'l i Pr] son Will, it is sniti. t 0 take place th fi e - f i i,ile 'exC creek, by Special CtirrlllliiSiOli. 1,00 lerstoo t i t o b e the i j . , y fi xe d f o r t his Or alio nothing of nth resr. bilsintss. , i O lO O The Titues of thi s d a y h i as inserted id- d Ilacord which was posted b etwe en iti ctliiio t id: [dew, and bas quoted The Courier ue t hr GJ in which it mignon), a ppeared. It e dit' i communicated to THE SUN rind «.e deed): 0 0;.1' desperate designsigns of pretended Reforatersfthrief object is e v id ent l y to d estro y the the State, that we mode it tile sitbie ct o ' f.4 :0 01 Edition in our P a p er o f Thurstraii 3si nt i d i e ll" was copied i n t o t h e M or ning Fri loping day. " A ot „1 so much i m p ortance, shewing the oti.u.. l : r T e A s , t i e t rday morning the Duchess n ' t (4 tr '6: 5 111: —........1100re....--"" („I""Qii :her I.4)yiti Alother and Sis iers esd u ‘.idee".,B „Palace. At one o'clock lr f sl i c ,, , Ile, :7Dt.i:ElliimaitAigitiiellifilsen:erroisc(;,::::stit:e,tir.flitiLicoieltilli.aellrela;triltts:llo,:acil;tnkt.,:tct:,roL'efilts:.;:jrieatiiirevic:ll:okcipipti;i:llir.i,e.lll.:::jist;:iictli'ic:lct:firs's:lol:oi j,rt:iiv;oll/::'' _ e l' he Princess CHAttLOTTE ilitld l'r.-- 1 f 4 to l 'i la, fiop...: wre "P e e l ed to I.llv i t't itsst O r"' ~, AP ~,,i C. 4 1 f1 le.vstellt NivNs •'l r the Thal of Livrtßra f4.. I V': The TEtt had amdiences of the Prascgientieocii 11 ; 6 ton -honsc yesterday, to litV belae l j 0 11 . , 0 1. 0 te u t ( 1 : :! , e. :l-I r ‘ .l l : e rll i i s o l j f f : I :: : e S G ( PE ) I : II :l e :C I C' i .7 :l °l i i e ct :.:lift:ss::luni6tecii AC1:::81111$4.:(1". ; :i rtillit $581: 1 p - :: : : ' , l l i b l i _ e e n i ( 1 1 1: 0 :::::: ° 1 1 0 S f rs S:e . i tt:IC A : 4 11 5 i i g S b l e l, :::: C14 , 1 ; e 7 f . 1 : 11 , : b . e: /1:111.1' " returned from Elba, it 1. 0) °" / -° ► b from . London. I. 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