The Sun. — London, England, 1857-05-29 00:00:00

for the welfare and happiness of his people, and in all respects a model sovereign. The noble lord who was so ammiottit to' interfere unnecessarily in the cause of the the Brazils 'could not but be aware that vessels were con tinually being fitted out from the ports of the - United States to engage in the African slave trade, yet they heard of no attempts on the part of the noble lord to pre. vent it. (Hear.) It ought not to be forgotten that the great extent of the Brazilian coasts interposed very considerable difficulties to the entire suppression of the trade by the Brazilian Government, however sincerely desirous they might be (as he knew they were) to do so. If we were unable to put down the trade in our own colony of Sierra Leone—where it notoriously existed, and where, according to Governor Kennedy, it was im possible to get a jury to convict persons charged with being engaged in this traffic—how much more difficult must it be for the Brazilian Government to protect their 3,000 miles of coast against it. He thought that if ever there was a case that demanded an inquiry it was the present, and he hoped, therefore, the house would con sent to the appointment of the committee. Mr. M. MILNES admitted that the hon. and learned member for Bath had made out a good case for the Go vernment of the Brazils, but not for the appointment of a committee, the motion for which he thought went beyond a mere inquiry, and indicated a policy. At the same time he thought they ought to feel greatly indebted to the bon. and learned member for having elicited the statement which they had heard as to the pres oat policy of the Bra zilian Government on this question. The policy of the noble lord for the abolition of tie slava trade had been eminently successful, In 1847-48 a committee of that house reported that it was vain to hope that the Brazilian Government would be brought to act with good faith, or that there would be any diminution of the slave trade in so far as that country was country was concerned. At that time the annual import of slaves into the Brazils was between 50,000 and 60,000 ; is 1852 it was reduced to between 700 and 800. (Cheers.) He thought it would be well if some hon. gentleman would move for papers to ascertain whether there had been any increase since, which was probable, as the important events in which this country bad been engaged during the last three or four years might have in some degree lessened the vigi lance of our cruisers ; but to call upon Government to relax its efforts, or to abandon any of the powers it pos sessed for the suppression of the trade, would be fatal. The feeling of the Brazilians as to the slave trade was not that rooted moral abhorrence with which it was re garded in this country, but rather an astute feeling of policy and self-preservation. They knew very welt that if any large increase in the number of the black popula tion took place, the lives and properties of the whites would be in danger. Happily the slaves imported into the Brazils were not of that tame submissive character which marked the black population of the States. Their policy was to keep down their slaves to that standard which was necessary to supply the labour to cultivate their estates. If apy great mortality took place among the blacks, no doubt attempts would be made to make up the deficiency by further imports from Africa, c ,nse quently it would be most unwise to abandon or relax any of the powers possessed by our Government. Our success in treating with the Brazils should rather induce us to apply the same policy to other nations where the slave trade was encouraged than abandon it in that case. A committee woald be productive of no good result ; it would afford no information of which the house was not already in possession, and therefore he hoped the motion would not be successful. Mr. ROEBUCK regretted to find that a subject of such importance exited so little attention. The noble lord bad stated no sufficient ground against the appoint. ment of the committee. He asked the house to insist on an inquiry into a matter connected with our foreign re lations. He could well understand that the noble lord would object to any such inquiry, and he could also well understand that everything that fell from the noble lord would be very interesting to the hon. member for Pon tefract. (hear, and a laugh.) What was the objection to the motion ? It was that if the House of Commons inquired it would give heart to those who were engaged or interested in the slave trade. 'What was the meaning of that, except that the house would come to a conclusion that was beneficial to those persons ? That was not his (Mr. Roebuck's) opinion. He believed that the House of Commons would come to a right conclusion. He be lieved the house was as much the enemy of the slave trade as the noble lord, but that it was feelingly alive to the honour and dignity of England ; and be believed that this inquiry, if set on foot by the house, would con duce to the honour and dignity of England. Why should it not ! " Oh," said the noble lord, " the Government of Brazil have been in former times great friends of the slave trade." True; but self-interest had shown them that the slave trade was dangerous to them ; and what was more potent than self-interest ? "But, then," said the noble lord, " there are people in the Brazils who aro friends to the slave trade." Why, did the noble lord believe that there were not people in England who were friends to the slave trade ? Let him not lay the " flatter ing unction to his soul." There were those in England —virtuous England--who would trade not only in the bodies of the blacks, but in their own souls. The secret encouragers of the slave trade were to be found within the islands of Great Britain and Ireland. (Hear.) The slave trade was carried on in spite of all our cruisers. True it had been almost put down in Brazil ; but had it been put down by the noble lord ? Not at all; but by the good sense of the Brazilian government and the Brazilian people. Our acts of parliament had not put down the slave trade, but they had done this—they had sown dissension between this country and the Brazils, and encouraged our diplomatic body to insult the Brazilian Government. The noble lord knew of Mr. Jerningham's letter. Suppose any such letter had been written by any foreign minister to the noble lord, he would have come down to the house, talked largely of the outraged honour and dignity of Eng land, and called upon the country to avenge the insult. Yet the noble lord denied that England was the bully to the weak. Was it not true ? Where was the slave trade most thriving now ! In Cuba. Why did the noble lord not interfere to put it down there? Simply because he dared not attempt it. The French Emperor would not allow it. (Hear.) The noble lord talked of vulgar preju dice. But had the noble lord answered the charge he had brought against him, of using the power of England to aid and assist the strong and to bully the weak ! Th e weak were the people of Brazils—the strong were the people of Spain and the people of America. Would they dare to send an English cruiser up the Chesapeake to search American vessels ? Certainly not, for they knew if they did so that America would be immediately up in arms, and we should have the noble lord the British Prime Minister begging pardon of the American repre sentative for daring to outrage the inviolability of her flag. He warned the house against doing anything that should induce the Brazils to throw themselves into the arms of the United States, reminding them that the States could take the produce of the Brazils and supply her with manufactures on terms as favourable as we could ourselves. Mr. DISRAELI suggested that the motion of the hon. and learned gent'eman was certainly a very strong one. Had he moved for papers and confined himself to a reso lution for furnishing to the house farther information be fore calling upon them to express a decided opinion, he (Mr. Disraeli) would not have taken the course which, as it was, he felt compelled to take. But any motion to take the management of the diplomatic relations of the country out of the hands of the Government had always been considered a motion implying want of confidence in the Government. He had listened with great attention to the hon. and learned gentleman, and had not under stood him to recommend his motion on the ground of auy peculiar or particular case that had recently occurred, or upon any complaint officially made by the Brazilian Go vernment. From the noble lord, on the other hand, he understood that the act, of the operation of which the hon. and learned gentleman complained, was at this mo ment, by mutual agreement between the tRO countries, in suspense. Under these circumstances, knowing that the act, the existence of which was the condition on which they were asked to withdraw from the Foreign office its functions, and transfer them to a committee of that house, was in suspense—and knowing also that, if that was the case, it must be in consequence of previ ous discussions between the two governments—and if it remained in suspense, be had a right to suppose that negotiations would be renewed and that there was yet some prospect of a satisfactory settlement—be, for one, could not give his assent to a motion so strong in its terms and character. lie agreed, nevertheless, that the subject was one that ought to interest the house very much, and that the house was much indebted to the hon. and learned gentleman for bringing it forward. Our relations with the Brazils', which were of the greatest importance had been for some time iavolved iu an amount of obscurity that was far from desirable. Redid not know how many years it was since they had heard of an impending treaty of commerce with the Brazils that was to produce great advantage to both countries. He had himself more than once the honour of bringing the subject under the notice of the house, but never on those occasions had heexperienced much encouragement from those who were anxious to promote commercial ex change, but had generally been met with the argument, that commercial treaties were old-fashioned inventions, °l)l 3 oed to the principles of political economy, and that it was not therefore desirable to enter into them. No vr:ratthieless, it was admitted by all, that our commercialons with the Brazils were of great importance. Let them t ook at what had been the conduct of the Brazils Since the treaty of commerce was Er .t mooted and tiathought toTtereee probable result of our diplo m ati c nego tion. could, be imagined, be no question that all those statem ents e nts which they were in the habit of hearing some time alto the encourageme n t g i ven t o the slave trade b y B razilian authorities and the Bra zilian people, had now no longer any fauodation, and he agreed with the hoo. and learnedi gentleman that it was not to the interference of the Br i tish te etish Government or the ac tivity of British cruiser s the policy of the Bra zilian government and the Brazilian people the mse l ves , that the slave trade had become am uu es; extinct. They knew that for 20 y e ars the policy mended by the nob l e lord was vigorousl y arnestly recom pursued to put down the slave tra de in Brazil, and thatatte end of that time the import of slaves into the Brazils] was ex actly the same as it was when the system first com menced ; 20 years of t he utmost ener gy on our part i n supporting the views of the noble lord p rod uced no effect whatever. What then ba d p roduced the chan ge but the opinion of the Brazilian people and the c mviction of the Brazilian community that the prosperity of their country would behest secured by pursuing a policy directly at va riance with that which their predecessors had followed ; and that by encouraging immigration of free labour, the carrying out of agricultural ar d ,be prosecution of internal improvements, they were doing that which was most con ducive to the wealth and power of the Brazilian empire. But if this were true, is was clear that the time bad come when the utmost spirit of conciliation and courtesy should be shown by the English Government towards the Brazils—that the time bad come when the noble lord I might well consider whether this act, which had now by mutual consent been suspended, should not be alto gether repealed— (cheers)—that the Brazilian Govern ment should be led to understand that the great improve- THE SUN, LONION, FRIDAY to their being.so many masters. The case was just the quoted it again, and would probably be rewarded by same with respect to the doc yards. Sir G. Cockburn, selling off the stock now ea hand. (A laugh.) He after pointing out the errors of the Board of Admiralty, quoted his letter, page 84, to Sir John Pechell, but he recommended that the - Admiralty Board should beomitted Y to tell them what he recom men d e d—th a t th e s s abolished, and that the management of the navy should tern of the purchase of commissions sh ou ld b e extended to the navy. Hs came doWn and omitted all that part, and be transferred to a flag officer, as naval commander-in- wished them to call the Board of Admiralty not a board chief, to be assisted by two naval officers ; that another but a council, and the first lord of the Admiralty not first person, having a seat in Parliament, should have the lord, but minister of marine. B u t th e ga ll an t a d m i ra l control of the naval expenditure, submitting it to the went on further, and quoted a pamphlet of Sir G. Cock- Treasury for approval. The principal objection, as stated ; burn's, or rather some notes that he left, and which were by Sir G. Cockburn, to placing a naval officer at the : never intended for publication. Now, it was known that head of the service, was, that he might show too much fa- I Sir G. Cockburn, who was a long time at the Admiralty, I ha i great differences of opinion, not with the civilians but ri th ot e es bo i 7 ,o rd t . he The ett h l o d n. and gal was to his personal friends ; but be did not. Why shou d that be the case with respect to the navy more than it l w a i n t t h a t t e i n ra a l val u m ot e e n c i l b t e lL s s n e f was with regard to the commander-in-chief ? He would G. Cockburn' q s notes in that house. In In that v house Sir G. now proceed to point out some of the evils attendant upon Cockburn said "he had no hesitation . in stating, and in staking his private as well as his public character on the the constant changes which took place at the Admiralay. When the old set went out, a new batch came in—the i statement, that it was necessary fa r th e sa f e ty o f th e first lord, perhaps, knowing nothing of naval officers , country that the Board of Admi ra lt y s h ou ld rema i n con and the others having all their business to learn. No- stitated as it was at present." body was left to teach them except the secretary : and Sir C. NAPIER—What date was that? the confusion attendant upon each change might easily Mr. B. OSBORNE—In 1820. B u t h e h a d ano th er, be imagined. The h ouse wou ld b e aston i s h e d a t th e years later, when Sir G. Cockburn said, "Speaking: five from expenses incurred in ship-building under the different the experience he had, he was sure that any alteration in boards. Some years ago he took the trouble of aster- the constitution of the Board would be injurious to the taming the number of ships which had been built and beat interests of the country." Probably, when gentlemen destroyed between the years 1815 and 1849. We bad got out of office, and when they got oat of command, they got rid of 13 three-deckers and 2 receiving ships ; 153 e th ug our , might d have dthe b 1 two decaere and 22 receiving ships ; 20 50-gun ships I plied to be pth 82 e Board of saini°iralt t y, a He r a cou a fd . and 9 receiving ships ; 180 frigates, from 30 to 59 guns, refer to his own pamphlet. [Sir C. NAPIER—The page?] and 17 receiving ships ; 65 frigates of 30 guns ; 418 Page 213. This was Lord John Russell's letter to him : —" You may remember when you applied to me in 1846 vessels of all descriptions and 20 receiving ships, making in all 920 ships. During that period there bad been for a seat at the Board of Admiralty, then about to be built 14 three-deckers. 49 twoeiecaers, 73 frigates, formed under Lord Auckland (a civilian.), and I stated from 30 to 50 guns, 39 frigates under 30 guns ; 114 my opinion that your services would be more useful to the vessels of all descriptions, not including small craft and public in a naval than a civil department." He thought steamers. In addition to the expense of breaking up it rather extraordinary that the ganant admiral, having ships, no less than 28 had had their sterns altered under applied for civil service under a civilian First Lord in Sir W. Symonds' plan, and 26 under other plans; 68 1846, should to carry on the 846. should in 1851 come do n w a n va alid sif te a l i l rs th o e f m ti t t h e a e t e i e t was t ships had had their magazines altered—some of them impossib le with a civilian as First-Lord. It was not the rule to L I Z three times and eight of them twice. The expense of civilians as First Lords of the Admiralty. On the con cutting down a frigate was upwards of 52,0001. From trary, there had been a great many naval First Lords, and 1821 to 1849 the estimates for the navy amounted to although at the beginning of their cffice naval lords were upwards of 156,000,0001. of which more than 44,000, popular, they generally ended with giving great dissatis -0001. were expended on the dockyards. He did not faction. It, was a singular thing that whenever there had mean to say that it was not necessary to cut down ships, been a parliamentary inquiry into the state of the navy, but he was satisfied that the great number of alterations it had always been . wheneatnaval man was First Lord; were attributable to changes in the Admiralty. He all effected when 'ne tiLmyphoavdelinainasciviliali the as ;.iliervsyt. Lord. ha been did not exactly agree with Sir George Cockburn, be hon. and gallant admiral went back s as far as the rein cause he knew it was useless to attempt to ask any of Edward VI. He would not go so far back. Was the government to put any naval man at the head of the hon. and gallant admiral aware that it was to Lord Sand- Admiralty, for judged of by civilians, they were only - with, a civilian, that they were ind e bt e d f or th e mar i nes fit to be shot at. (Laughter.) Lord St. Vincent was as a s ep ara t e body from the sailors; that he first corn declared by Mr. Pitt to be an unfit man for the office of menced the inspection of the navy. Then, Lord Keppel first lord. But that noble lord, by his 'firmness and was a distinguished naval commander, but what did Lord character during the time he filled that office, restored Shelburne say of his naval administration ? He said that the navy from the degraded condition into which it bad a change was necessary, seeing that the affairs of the navy fallen usder his predecessors. It had been said that all were going to ruin. Then th er e was L or d H owe. H e was our g a naval man, but as First Lord of th e Ad m i ra lt y h e gave in Great battles were fought under civilians. Now, name, what bad they to do with battles ? universal dissatisfaction, ' and there wa s a remarkable both in the Lords and the Commons as to the de (Laughter.)fa- Why the French and English fleets used vouritism displayed in the promotions while he was in to put to sea and fight severe battles, but he could not office ; and Mr. Fox said, "he approved of Lord Howe's at all understand what the First Lord of the Admiralty conduct when at sea, but that all hisnaval ability vanished had to do with them. (Hear) The greatest' battle when he got on shore." But the hon. and gallant admiral ever fought was fought not during the time a c vilian quoted Lord St. Vincent as a naval First Lord, Why, was at the head of the Admiralty, but when that post Lord St. Vincent was most unfortunate in his administra was occupied by Lord Barham. It was not Lord the naval Y estimates, And ttooeni dockyards t h e is te m; they positively sold the hemp in the G w o h v a qn w m a e s n z t ,ir in l o i r t d t r a r to r e e e d h ur Barham, however, but - Nelson who won that 4 battle. (Hear, hear.) A. great deal was done by 1800? "I am inclined to think that ioetween speech St. Sir James Graham to reform the Admiralty Board, Vincent as a commander and as First Lord of the Admi and the right hon. baronet carried out several ral - y there is a ver y w id e diff erence. H e i s much less a bl e suggestions which had fallen from him (Sir C. Napier) in a civil than i n a war lik e pos iti on. " such as the registering of seamen and giving a Sir C. NAPIER—What was Mr. Fox's opinion? bounty, both which plans were steps towards the more Mr. B. OSBORNE said he was aware that Mr. Fox efficient manning of the navy. But the right hon. gen- voted on that occasion in favour of Lord St. Vincent, but tlecnan did not take advantage of his own law. With he did not say anything in his favour. respect to the continuous service men, he did not think Sir C. NAPIER—Yes, he did. one of them ought to be discharged without his consent, Mr. B. OSBORNE said then the gallant admiral ought and doubted whether they ought to be discharged at ail. to be ready with his quotation. Then he went to Lord He understood that an order had been sent down to Barham, who was a naval First Lord, and he took great discharge, with their own consent, all the first-class boys, credit to Lord Barham for fitting out the fleet that fought who were beginning to be useful, and also all the novices the battle of Trafalgar. He (Mr. B. Osborne) maintained who wished to be discharged. He did not approve a that the First Lord's duty was as much civil as naval; and continuous service for ten years. He thought it would it was a singular thing that with this exception the fleets be much better to take them for five years, and then which had fought in all the great actions had been fitted out allow them to enter for five years more. He understood by First Lords who were civilians. Take Lord Rodney'svic that two or three different orders h a d b een sen t on t hi s tory in 1782, the victories in 1744, th e b a ttl e o f th e Nil e , an d the battle of Copenhagen; the fleets in all these cases were subject, that th®- telegraph was alm o st a l wa y s a t work, fitted oat when a civili a n was first lord. Mind th ere wa s and that the commanders at the diff e r en t ports hardly a deal in the selection of the officer to command. Now, knew what they were doing. The reforms which he pro- what had been the great improvenients instituted by first posed were so very simple that he was surprised Sir lords who were civilians ? Why, Sir James Graham was James Graham had not adopted them. The Navy the means of saving 1,200,0001. by consolidating offices in Board, the Victualling Board, and the Transport Board the navy. Up to that time the navy accounts had never were abolished. There was one officer at the dockyard, been audited, and from that day to this they had been one at the head of the victualling department, one at audited. He did not mean to lay it down as a rule that the head of the surveyor's department, one et the bead they should never appoint a naval man, but he said that of the head or the storekeeper's department. The objet- the opportunities and the education of naval men were not times of Sir George Cockburn and Sir George Cl er k were, of that sort that they should b e p u t in t o th e importa nt osition of first, lord of the Admiralty.lf the found a that the whole of the business would fall into their hands Position adapted to that situation, do not lt it be against him without responsibility attacbing to them. And that was that he was a naval man, but it would be stultifying p them the case. When Mr. Labonchere began his political life, selves to say they would have none but a naval man. The it was as a lay lord of the Admiralty. The accountant- bon. and gallant admiral hal said that his late colleague general's department was under his care, and he lived at Mr. Phinn retired because he did not like signing letters Somerset-house, and attended strictly to his orders. which he could not read, and that he had conscientious There was no necessity for a lay lord to be placed over scruples about signing them. Mr. Phinn had no such the head of the accountant-general, who ought to have scruples, for he did read the letters, and he retired because the management of the whole of the ac coun t s o f the he preferred the business of the b a r. Th en th e h on . an d navy, and to be in communication with th e fi rs t lord, gallant admiral talked about priv a te l e tt ers , and he was astonished that he should, con s id er i ng th e use he had and the first lord only. The head of the victualling- made of the letters from Sir J. Graham which were never department ought to reside at Somerset-house, and intended to be published. The hon. and gallant admiral \ take his departure altogether from Whitehall. All said there ought to be a permanent officer to teach the or ders belonging to the medical and victualling depart- boards who were coming in. There was a permanent officer, ments ought to be signed by him, and his master the surveyor to the navy, who was not liable to be changed ought to be the first lord. At the head of the sur veyor's department there ought to be another officer, on the change of gov ernment . Th e h on. and gallant ad miral was fond of m a li gn i ng hi s own fl eet, not regarding who ought not to be at the Admiralty at all. Th e v i ce the manceavres of th a t fl ee t, w h en it anc h ore d in F aro admiral of Great Britain ought to be at th e h ea d o f t h e Sound. He would read the criticism of the Russian pa surveyor's arid store department, and all letters and tom- mire]. per t . complimentary , as it was the hon. and gallant ad munications from the superintendents of dockyards ought ' The handling of the English ships w as admirable. The English make very little use of our buoys to be sent to him, and be ought to inspect the dockyards When they take a new channel they lay down buoys of in an efficient manner, not pzoceeoing at railroad speed, their own. One thing may be affirmed positively, that going down to the different ports and hoisting his flag. no pilot of ours would ever venture on his own respon- The rear-admiral ought to have the inspection of the sibility to take deep sea going ships into places wkish victualling and medical departments, and to hoist his have been navigated by large English steamers, though flag also. By these arrangements enor mous sums o f it must be admitted they have occas i ona lly groun d e d . " 1 money wouli be saved, and the different parties would British fleet. here was Russian Heivas tsuesrti=taes:eoatrhleeffihciencayo and the only have their own specific duties to attend to. Now, ]ant admiral affirm that the throne of England n was gal how how ought the Admiralty Board to be composed ? It worth six months' purchase. If he did no t k now th a t th e was said that the First Lord was responsible, but h e al- gallant admiral was rath er w ild a b ou t thi s su bj ect, h e ways laid the blame on the board, and the board laid should be ashamed that such an expression should have the blame on him. He had no objection to the present come from a British admiral. While they had the navy First Lord, because he would do as well as any other. in its present condition, and while they had a Board of (Laughter.) He would make the First Lord Minister Admiralty comprising such men as Sir R. Dundas, Sir M. of Marine, having under him the vice-admiral and rear- Berkeley and Capt. Milne, the throne was secure, and he that n state g m all e a n n t admiral of Great Britain. Should he happen to be a hoped the house would not listen to such statements as civilian he ought to have a captain of the fleet to assist t d h: d s u e c o e f fr t o h m e beandgallant admiral, and that they would him, and make him acquainted with things which he wast t a li s r l o i nal the u a inference edte might not understand, for they might as well make a naval that the hon. and gallant admit - Til t alter the constitution of the Board of Admira e ltl as he was officer a bishop as a civilian a First Lord, All orders ought t o judge of the stability of the throne. He trusted that to emanate from the Minister of Marine, who ought to the house would negative this motion by a large majority. have two secretaries, (men civilian and the other a naval Sir G. PEC HELL said the fact of Sir G. Cockburn be man. He did not think it would be necessary to have ing 16 or 17 years at the Board of Admiralty and hiding m ore than one naval officer to assist the Minister of hi s li g ht under a bushel all that time detracted consider- Marine, besides the two secretaries. He would tell the ably from the value of his notes. He certainly thought Government that unless they did something very speedily that the system of constant changes which prevailed at the to improve the condition of the navy some very serious Admiralty was much to be deprecated. disaster would happen. Our disasters began at the lat- Mr. KER approved of the principle which threw our ' ter end of the last great war. The English navy never do .kyards open to the inspection of all persons ; but he knew what it was to be beaten until we went to war objected to the systemship-trade, of givin g d raw i ngs t o p ersona w h o with America. The Americans took the wh o le o f our were experts in the w h en th ese persons were been foreigners. He had shown a l arge mo d e l o f th e D u k e corvettes. Then our frigates began to walk into the of Wellington line of battle ship a twelvemonth before Americans; but they did nut inflict that inju r y which that vessel was launched. they ought to have done. And why ? Because the Admiral WALCOTT urged upon the house the necessity Americans had paid more attention to their navy of keeping up a sufficient naval force in the Mediterranean. than we had done, and were proud to be able In his opinion twelve line of battle ships ought to be tsta • to beat their cousins. What was th e resu lt ? The tinned at Malta. He advocated also the form a ti on o f a Emperor of France sent nine frigates to sea , an d we b oard o f exper i enc ed and sc i ent ifi c men, for the purpose of nad four drawn battles. That was th e s t a t e o f th e repor ti ng upon those scientifi c i mprovements which from case at the end of the war. It was ad m itt e d th a t th e ti me t o ti m e might be made ab roa d, or w hi c h m i g ht b e French navy had got into'a high st a te o f di sc ipli ne , an d brought forward by inventors at home. The hon. an d gal was as good as our own, and that they could man th e i r lent member had said that the j unior members of the Board with ropes roun d th e i r nec k s, an d that of Admiralty fist, fleet when we could not man curs. Now we ought n o t to allow our navy to remain in its pr e sent conditio n . W e they were afraid to express their opinion. He could not ought to have a better system of management, and our believe so meanly of his professional brethren as to think ships ought to be better manned. Unless an improve that this was the case , but if it were so, all he would say was that he wished the ropes were stretched, and the ment took place in both these respects great disasters junior (" Hear," and cheers.) would befall the country. We had now no Chann e l fl ee t , Lord C. PAGET bel i eved that upon the whole the pre and in the course of a few months we should not h ave sent system worke d b ene fi c i a ll y for the country. W a single ship of war in England. hen our m en were members were hanged. Mr. WARRE pointed out that in considering this mat paid off they would go to America and other countries ; ter it should not be forgotten that during the past few years if we should want them we should be unable to obtain science hal completely changed the state of naval warfare. their services. Now, suppose a war should break out be- After a few words from Mr. LINDSAY, tween this country and France, which was not impos- Sir C. WOOD said that no continuous service men bad sible, and Russia should join France, he did not believe left the service except at their own request, or in conse the Queen's throne would be worth six months' purchase. queues of being unfit to continue longer in the service. (Cries of "On, oh.") Lion. members might cry "Oh,the propriety of inquiry in- However, astheei t tte e stao o n ar Tr i a o s f Admi Admiralty, he thought he oh ;" but we had neither men nor ships fit for such a e t i o te t t i t i l e d conductd best of byh B confining himself to that question. contingency, our best ships being all abroad, and nothing With respect, to having a naval first lord, he had never de: but trash remaining in our ports. He wanted to open nied the fitness of a naval man for the office • but he did the eyes of the country to the fact that if France and not think that the first lor d s h ou ld necessarily be a naval Russia were to unite, we should not have the means of man, seeing that five-sixths of the business transacted was defending ourselves. He had been himself in action, and of a civil character. The gallant admiral also proposed had been beaten simply because his vessels were badly that the principal officers should be relieved from respon manned and disciplined. Wh e n i n P or t uga l h e b a d a lability to the board. So they were in all matters of de badly-manned fleet, and when he fell in with Don tail, it was only in matters of great ah i e m u p i o l r t r e n te ce that the E:e al iguel's fleet, and his own son boarded one of the jdtisdiction of the whole e board the greatest wsr assistanceg pay. Fie the enemy's weasels, he was hardly followed by a single man. (Sir navalo.V)od)deriv d of the board, and was the last man to un- Toe Mf a lied no confidence in each other, and of the ten derratete members importance of their professional knowledge. marines on beari only three of them ventured to ho nett. After one or two further observations, the right hen. gen- By all the rules of fighting his own -vessel ought to have tleman concluded by opposing the motion. been taken instead of Don Miguel 's. (Laughter.) The Sir C. NAPIER replied, complaining of the line taken First Lord of the Treasury was responsible for the by the Secretary to toe Admiralty, and of the conduct of present state of the navy, and ought not to remain Sir Maurice Berkeley in writing to the officers of his fleet at the head of the Government unless he was deter- for opinions of his character. mined to keep up an efficient fleet. He did not ask fur The house then divided — a very large or expensive commanded by excellent officers, and manned by young Against it and able seamen and good marines. With these, and LAND TAX. if they cou ld man th e fl e et well, he defied the world. Mr. MACKINNON moved for a select committee to A British fleet w ith men accustomed to act together consider the expediency of a more equitable adjustment would face anything in the world. But a fleet manned of the land-tax; also of allowing a further redemption . al to the revenue. This tax, he saki, The hon. and g a ll an t admiral concluded by moving the by persons p ic k e d u p in the streets was not efficient. of it ; and whether the tax might not be made more be ficid, was so unjust n in reselution. e its operation and so partial that it was impossible it could be allow e d t o co nti nue i n its present state. He gave a Mr. BENTINCK seconded the motion. short history o f the l a nd-tax, in order to show how it be - Mr. B. OSBORNE said the speech of the hon. and caine so unjust and unequal ; the rate being in some places gallant admi ra l b a d b een so di scurs i ve t h a t h e h ope d the lii. in the pound, and in others 35., rich communities pay house would f o r g i ve hi m if h e i m it a t e d hi m i n th a t re - i ng nothing and poor communities being taxed heavily, to spect. The principal argument of the hon. and gallant Sir J. TROLLOPE observed that the impedimentsAc o officer was the want of permanence i n th e fi rs t Lord of a readjustment of this tax arose from the Redemption Act the Admiralty. Why, as this Government was needs- and Mary making it perpetual, and sarily parliamentary, th e government o ffi cers cou ld not of Mr. Pitt in 1798, an d unless the house was prepared to be permanent. It w ou ld b e an agreea bl e thing to many opeal the latter Act, died impose raactice fresh mode of taxaticn ble for a commit the want of permaneecy. tee if they could. The head an d f ron t o f t h e i r o ff en di ng was in lieu of the land tax it was imp of that house to deal with the subject. He should therefore oppose the motion. Sir- C. NAPIER—The Duke of Cambridge is penile. Mn. NEATE supported the motion. The real ques- nent. tion, he said, was how far the Act of Mr. Pitt precluded Mr. B. OSBnlnniE said the Commander-in-Chief was in Parliament from considering the whole subject, and the a totally different position. He was n o t a mem b er o f th e res t ora ti on o f t h e t ax t o what it was intended to be. There cabinet. The hon. and gallant officer p ropose d no rea l ttas not hi ng i n M r . Pitt' s A c t, in his opinion, that pre change ; he proposed a board under a diff eren t name ; h e i e l u d e d t h e h ouse f rom cons idering the question n its could not call it a board, but a council. What happenen, widest bearing. had Lord Hi , h Admiral ? They had Con. ,soil The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER trusted ; when they a a Ca".neil, his motion. The the very thing that the hon. and gallant admiral `reposed that Mr. Mackinnon would not p ress t 1 it had been under a different name. And what happened the n , s Sir G. i subject, he observed, was we ll unders to o d t Cockburn complained, and a change took place, and they repeatedly considered by the house, where its anomalies of removing went t o th e b oar I aga i n . The bon. and gallent admiral had ' had been fully admitted ; but the difficultye_tr. Pitt. The quoted frequently from his book on the retvy. Th e l as t ti me them arose from the Redemption Act f ?.1 he brought f orwar d th e subject he was the means of put. only way of obviating them would beto impose what in tiug his book through another edition, so man— e copies were i reality would be an additional Income-tax. wanted by the Admiralty and by hon. members. He Lai t 11 r. MACKINNON said h e feared next evasion he went in their feelings, the great improvement in the tone of society there, was appreciated by the Govern ment and the people of England, and that the state ments we used to hear were no longer credited as cha racterising what actually occurred in that country. (Hear.) The motion of the hon. and learned gentleman had had this advantage, that it had introduced to the House of Commons in this the first session of the new Parliament a subject of great importance in a way which would probably give an improved tone to our relations with the Brazils.. That object having been obtained, he would urge upon the bon. and learned gentleman not to press his motion to a division, especially as it appeared to him far too strongly worded for the occasion or for the position in which the country stood in respect to its diplomatic relations. If the hon. and learned gentleman would rest satisfied with having elicited from a large majority of the house the expression of a general feeling that the conduct of the Brazilian Government and the Brazilian people was appreciated by the British Parlia ment, and that our Government ought to extend to them feelings of union, he would have achieved a great result. He trusted he would be contented with that, and not ask the house to come to a division which would not con vey an accurate idea of the sentiments of the house on the subject. (Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said—l should not have ad dressed the house but for one observation of the right hon. gentleman opposite, which I think is calculated to create a false impression. The right hon. gentleman the (member for Buckinghamshire said that the instructions which were given by my noble friend had proved un availing, that the slave trade had increased, and that no check was given to it by the vigilance of our cruisers, and that the Brazilians themselves undertook the management of the question and put an end to the slave trade. If that is a correct representation, the consequence would be that the Brazilians having performed the duty of suppressing the slave trade themselves, it would be only right in us to repeal the Act of Parliament which has been passed for the regu lation of this question. But I maintain that that is nut a correct representation of the state of thi ngs . My re collection of them is that our own efforts, active as they were, did not have any material effect, and the Brazilian slave trade continued ; but the orders subse quently issued to our cruis-ra, not to confine themselves to the sea-coast, but to go into the inland waters of Brazil and take slavers found there, were productive of such an effect that the Brazilians themselves passed an act to put an end to the slave trade, which had then be come such a losing concern that many slave-dealers who bad before made large fortunes found the losses so great that they could no longer continue the trade. I believe that to be the right state of the facts ; and believing that, lam desirous to leave the question in the hands of my noble friend and the Government, as indeed I think most matters relating to the conduct of our fo reign affairs should be left ; but I believe that in this case the success of the course pursued by the Govern ment has been so great, tnat it is peculiarly a case for abstaining from interference by ti.e appointment of a committee of this house. I fthe hon. and learned gentleman could suggest anything with regard to the suppression of the slave trade to Cuba, I do not believe the government would be so afraid of the powerful monarchy of Spam —(a laugh)—as not to interfere. I hope the next time the hon. and learned gentleman touches on this question, his motion may refer to Cuba, with a view to he suppressicn of the slave trade there. The house divided. For the motion Against it THE BOARD OF ADMIRALTY. Sir C. NAPIER rose to move for a select committee ,o inquire into the constitution of thelßoard of Admiralty, with the view of rendering it more efficient, and better adapted to the various duties it has to perform. He said he should be thought imprudent, and perhaps un wise to ask for a committee to inquire into the constitu tion cf the Board of Admiralty, for in the house they had not only the present First Lord and Secretary and most of the members of the past board, but sevetal ex first lords, and six or seven ex-naval and civil lords ; still he thought it his duty to endeavour to persuade the house to grant him a committee. It was not only he himself who thought the navy ill-conducted, but there was hardly a naval officer or a commander-in-chief, or officer commanding Ili dockyards, who was not of the seine opinion ; and besides, in the Admiralty itself he believed that if the clerks at Whitehall and Somerset. house were polled they would agre in that opinion. It was necessary to point out the nature of the Board of Admiralty. Looking back, he found that in the time of Edward Vl.—(laughter)—the navy was governed by a high commisdoner, a surveyor, and a clerk of the acts, and this continued till James 11. declared himself Lord High Admiral, and it was during this period that the well known Pepys was in office. William 111. ruled the navy by a board ' • and when Anne came to the throne Prince George of Denmark was made Lord High Admiral. The administration of the navy after that continuedro be carried on by commission until 1832, when the Duke of Clarence was created Lord High Admiral. At the time that the Duke of Clarence. became Lord High Ad miral the navy had been ruled for 17 or 18 years by Lord Melville, and during that time nothing had been done to advance its interests ; no attempt had been made to do away with the manning iif the navy by impressment. He remembered that in 1815 a cornet of dragoons was one of the civil lords of the Admiralty, and Sir G. Cock burn, who was then at the Admiralty when this case of the cornet of dragoons was complained of, stated to the house that the First Lord had so little time to attend to the dudes connected with the navy that he was obliged to leave them to be done by the senior naval lord. This state of things continued until after the passing of the Reform Bill, when Sir J. Graham was appointed First Lord of the Admiralty. At that time Sir J. Pechell, an excellent officer, was appointed a member of the board. He (Sir C. Napier) would read an extract from a letter which he addressed to Sir J. Pechell. [Tile hoc. and gallant gentleman than read in a very low voice the ex tract in question, in which as far as we could ascertain he sketched a plan fir the administration of the Ad- 1 miralty, which would place greater responsibility on each head of the departments.] Shealy after this Sir J. Graham came into office, and introduced a bill to make ' a change in the canstitution of the Board of Admiralty, and it was found to be somewhat such as he (Sir C. Napier) had suggested ; but it did not go sufficiently far. The Beard of Admiralty as constituted now was com posed of a firet lord, four naval lords, and one civil Ford. The intention of Sir J. Graham was that the civil lord should live at Somerset-house, and take charge of the du ties connected with the Accountant-General, that one naval rl should take charge of the medical and victualling de partments, and another of the dockyards. However, he would read a description of the duties performed by the Board of Admiralty, taken from the evidence of Sir F. Baring, then First Lord of the Admiralty, before a com mittee of the house. (The hon. and gallant member then read an extract from the evidence in question, which we understood to explain in detail the duties of each branch of the officers of the Admiralty, with the composition of the board.] By this it appeared that the board had very arduous duties to perform ; but he could tell the house that ail the lords worked in different rooms, and each wrote his orders in the name of the board, and the con sequence was that all sorts of contradictory orders were sent out by the Admiralty, many of which he had him self received. He would state the opinion of Sir G. Cockburn, who had been 18 years at the Admiralty, under both the old and the new system. [The hon. and gallant gentleman then read the opinion of Sir G. Cock burn, to the effect that the establishment of the Admi ralty was most unsatisfactory ; that it was a most incon venient and inconsistent practice for one member of the board, without communicating with his colleagues, to issue orders in the name of the board ; there was, there fore, no real responsibility.] And again, as regarded the proceedings of the board when united for busi ness, it was absurd for a person to preside who did not understand anything of the profession. The board consisted of six members, most of whom were selected because they had seats in Parliament, or parliamen tary influence. He (Sir C. Napier) thought it was wrong in Sir G. Cockburn holding these opinions not to bring forward a measure for the reform of the Admiralty, but at his death he left this opinion as a legacy. It was said that the Board of Admiralty was a responsible body, but he could show ont of the mouth of a first lord of the Admiralty what that respon-ibility was. Be fore the Sebastopol committee Sir James Graham said that he went to Earl Spencer who had long been a first lord of the Admiralty to consult him how to carry on the war, and Lord Spencer told him that he had once issued an order for the removal of an officer from a command, and the members of the board all refused to sign it, upon which he said ho would go to Mr. Pitt and have them all turned out. Where could there be any responsibility when every man of the board sat with a rope round his neck, and when' they could all be turned oat a moment's notice l Sir George Cockburn actual'y turned out a Lord High Admiral ; for having a quarrel with the Duke of C arence, he went to the Duke of Wellington, and the Duke of Clarence was obliged to resign. It was impossible that the duties of the Admiralty could be properly carried on when each lord could act as if he was the board. He had seen a I lord of the Admiralty, whose signature was necessary to a paper, sign it without looking at it or kno wing what it was about. The second secretary of the Admiralty, Mr. Plano, had lately resigned, and we had not been told why he did so; but he suspected that gentleman acted from a conscienti .us feeling that he conid not take 1.5001. a year for merely signing his name to papers. He (Sir Charles Napier) knew from experience how the matter worked, for be had often received contra dictory orders from the Admiralty. On one occa sion Lord Auckland ordered him to take the upper deck guns out of the St. Vincent, and by the next mail he received a letter from the senior naval lord ordering him to put them in again directly. On another occas on he received orders to send home the Queen. By the next mail he received a letter reproving him for sending that vessel home. Shortly afterwards he received a private note from Vice-Admiral Dundas, say ing, "All the clerks are gone ; take this, a private note, and send the Queen to Malta directly." When he had the command of the Baltic fleet, he received a letter from the Admiralty ordering him to proceed to Ingersound. He bad also an order which he was directed to open in a certain latitude. He did so, and found an instruction from the Secretary of State, which was much wiser than the must the Admir a lty or d er . I n pursuance o f t h e S ecretary o f State's i nstruct i on he passed through the Belt, and anchored e Bay. After remaining ther e a sh o rt ttihmae, be in received have had a letter some g fromo good there reason s Admiraltyonfor not stat obeying rag their orders to proceed to Ingersound. It appeared, therefore, that the orders of the Secretary of State were not known to the Admiralty. Now if he had gone to Ingersound there might have been a junction between the Russians and the Swedes. A few days afterwards he received a letter from the Admiralty approving of his conduct in not obeying their orders, and then a letter followed complaining that he had not gone to Ingersound. (Laughter.) All these clashing orders were attributable EVETNING, MAY 29, 1857, would be met by some other excuse ; but he would not press his motion. The motion was then withdrawn. TENANT RIGHT (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. MOORE moved for and obtained leave to bring in a bill to provide for the better securing of and regulating the custom of tenant-right as practised in the province of Ulster, and to secure compensation to improving tenants who may not make claim under the said custom, and to limit the power of eviction in c,rtai❑ cases. MEDICAL AND SURGICAL SCHOOLS (QUEEN'S ITYIVERSITY) IRELAND. Mr. FAGAN moved for leave to bring in bill for secur ing the more effectual promotion of the medical and surgi cal sciences in the Queen's University in Ireland, by ena bling the ratepayers of the unions of Cork, Belfast, and Galway to provide for the enlargement and better main tenance of certain hospitals in the said cities and town, and for the further extension of the provisions of the act of ner present Majesty to end , iw new colleges for the advance ment of learning in Ireland. Mr. GROGAN opposed the bill. It ought not to be brought forward in the absence of the Secretary for Ire• land, and as a commission was now engaged in inquiring into the condition ani state of education in these colleges, they ought to wait for the report. Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD had not read the bill, but, as much interest was excited on the subject in the cities affected by it, the Government would not oppose its intro duction. Before it came on for a second reading the Secre tart' for Ireland would be in his place. After a few words from Lord NAAS, the motion was agreed to. AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS. Viscount laficHANl rose to move for a select commit tee to inquire into the operation of the act 16 and 17 Vic., c. 21, for the punishment of persons convicted of aggravated assaults on women and children. These offences had in creased to such an alarming extent as to be a disgrace to the country. He believed no arguments would be required to induce the house to consider the means of preventing them. Their attention had lately been drawn to social evils, and there were none greater than this. He be. lieved, and his opinion was shared by many, that the act now i❑ force did not prevent this crime nor effect the object for which it was passed. He would not detain the house by an enumeration of the cases that had lately ben reported, but only mention one or two of peculiar enormity. One lately occurred at Horncastle, where a young female servant in a farm was beaten with the most horrible cruelty by a man and a boy by the directio❑ of her mistress. The magistrates before whom the case was brought expressed the greatest horror at its atrocity, and only fined the mistress Si., the man 3/. 15s. 6d., and the boy 1/. ss. There were two ways of looking at this ques tion ; and the principal one regarded the punishment, and whether something could not be devised which would have a deterring effect Corporal punishment, he thought, was the best for such a crime ; but that point would be for the decision of the committee, if it was granted. Sir G. GREY said he should be happy to concur in any measure which would put an end to the crime with which it was now proposed to deal, and it was with that object tkat the act now in operation was passed. He did not see how an inquiry by a select committee would have a prac tical effect. If the noble lord wished for any information which could be obtained by a return of the number of offences and convictions under the act, he should be happy to grant it. But it was impossible to have a return of those crimes which were committed with impunity before the passing of the act. If there were any cases such as that alluded to by the noble lord at Horncastle they could only have occurred from want of due exercise of their dis cretion by the magistrates, in whose hands the punishment was placed. As to the other case at Dawlish, which ended in the death of a girl, he thought that this was a case of manslaughter, which could •be dealt with by the ordivary , law. He urged that in the present pressure on select com mittees that house would not consent to appoint any more committees, unless some strong necessity Was shown. Mr. Bentinck, Mr. P. O'Brien, and Lord C. Hamilton supported the motion, which was opposed by Mr. Clay. Lord RA.YNHAM expressed his regret that the Home Se,ret , q7 declined to aid him in this matter. The house then divided — For the motion B4 Against it SCIENTIFIC AND LITERARY SOCIETIES. Mr. HUTT moved for, and obtained leave to bring in a bill to amend the act of 6 and 7 Vict., c. 36, to exempt from county, borough, parochial, and other local rates, land and buildings occupied by scientific and literary societies. MINISTERS' MONEY (IRELAND). On the motion of Mr. G. A. HAMILTON, a return was ordered of the number of houses liable to the payment of ministers' money, and of their rated value. HOP DUTIES. Mr. DODSON moved fora select committee to inquire into the operation of the excise and customs duties on hops. The motion was agreed.to. JOINT-STOCK COMPANIES, &c., BILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the second read ing of this bill. After a few words from Mr. WYLD, the motion was agreed to, and the bill was ordered to be committed on Thursday. SUPPLY. On the question that the report of the committee of supply be received, Mr. BOVILL complained of the hardship to which inn keepers are subjected by the billeting system. The allow ance per day to each man was 9d., for which the publican was obliged to find I /lb. of meat, 11b. of bread, and 11b. of vegetables, besides lodging, fire, and candles. It was impossible for any publican to provide all these articles for less than 15d. or 16d. (Hear, hear.) He trusted the at tention of the Government would be turned to the subject with the view of removing the grievance under which the publicans were labouring. (Hear, hear.) • The report was then received. PORTLAND HARBOUR BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. CINQUE PORTS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. This bill pas.ed through committee. PRINCESS ROYAL'S ANNUITY BILL. This bill was read a second time. The other orders having been disposed of, the house ai journed at 20 minutes past 12 o'clock. MR. RUSSELL'S LECTURES ON THE WAR, AT WILLIS'S ROWIS. Yesterday afternoon that very popular narrator and publicist, Mr. William Russell, delivered the second of his Course of Three Lectures upon the late War between Russia and the Allies—as usual, be fore a rather numerous, a very fashionable, and a singularly attentive audience, at Willis's Rooms, St. James's. Resuming the thread of his Personal Narrative upon the morrow of the Battle of the Alma, Mr. Russell commented briefly, but signifi cantly upon the fact that for Three Whole Days the Allied armies were detained upon the field won with so much valour and so much bloodshed by the sluggishness of the English Commander-in-Chief ! He spoke of the impatience of the French at this extraordinary and extravagant delay, of their eager nes to follow up the advantages of the victory, of their threatening at last to hasten forward in the track of the defeated Russians without tarrying any longer for their British companions in arms I At length,the morning oflhe fourth day after the t3attle, came the gladly-welcomed signal for the advance so long, and deplorably, and unaccountably delayed. At cockcrow the French were off—hours before the first i•egiinent of the English army took its de parture ! The lecturer descrieed most picturesquely, as au incident never to be f Tgot en, the will flourish of trumpets and roll of the drums, again and again repeated in the grey light of the dawn, amidst ringing shouts of Vive l'Empereur ! as the Gallic soldiers moved onwards from the heights of the Alma, battalion by battalion ! He spoke of the grey mass distinguishable upon that historic hill side when the allied armies had at last left the scene of their first Crimean Victory —a grey mass covering about an acre of ground--that grey mass the Russian wounded, to the number of 750, at tended only (ont of all that host) by two heroic Englishmen, Dr. Thompson and his servant. The former of whom, we all remember, died not many days later from the effects of his benificent minister ing to that swarm of suffering foes—breathing his last, in fact, but a very few hours after his arrival at Balaklava. Afterwards came, in duo course, Mr. Russell's personal narrative of the celebrated Flank March in suggested by Sir John Burgoyne. He rapidly sketched the peculiarities of the new position occupied by the assailants and the assailed when the allies moved round to the south side of Sebastopol, and deliberately entered upon that pro tracted and bloody siege. The Second Lecture closing with an eloquent and thrilling delin-•ation of the glorious and immortal Cavalry Charge in the Fatal Valley of Balaklava. Of which almost match less deed of heroism, the Lecturer, we all recollect full well, was himself an actual eye-witness. It would be difficult to tire of ever hearing of that magnificent but most lamentable achieve ment. It is hardly possible to listen to the account given of it viva voce by Mr. Russell, without the tears starting to one's eyes in mingled anguish and admiration. Like an eminently rational man, as he is, Mr. Russell perfectly exonerates Lord Lucan from any blame whatever in giving the word of command for that disastrous and dauntless Feat of Arms. Lord Lucan simply obeyed the positive order of his Chief as brought to him by Captain Nolan—he (Lord Lucan) knowing th a t th a t Chi e f in sending to him those explicit in j unct i ons, com manded a distinct view of the Russian positions, which were altogether invisible to the noble earl and his Brigadier ! So the Trumpets sounded for that Charge in obedience to the word utte. - ed, as it was his bounden duty that it should be uttered by the Earl of Lucan ! And so that Charge was le .1 at a trot—at a canter--at a gallop along the whole sweep of that Valley of Death cleaving its way through a great Russian army, waiting t o receive it in position—led, that memorable Charge, as it was also his bounden duty that it should he led, by the daring and dauntless Earl of Cardigan ! Listening to Mr. Russell's account of what he saw one could almost realise she wonderful scene he was describing, even to the flames and smoke suddenly bursting ft om those twenty pieces of ordnance—the flame and smoke " through which hissed the deadly iron !" It was an unfortu nately brief, but, at the same time, a very vivid and oratorical description. GREAT HANDEL FESTIVAL. —The large organ erecting at the Crystal Palace for this enormous musical con gress is nearly completed. THE CALEDONIAN BALL—The ladies patr+nessrs of the Caledonian Ball met in committee at Willin's Rooms, yesterday afternoon. In consequence of her Majesty having fixed her first grand concert for the 10th of June, it was unanimously resolved to postpone this annual festival to Monday, the 22d proximo. l'A hLIAM EN TA RY DIVISIONS. HOUSE OF LORDS.-MAY 28. DIVORCE AND MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL. Moved, to insert the following clause,—" Provided neverthe less, that no Clerk in Holy Orders of the Church of Eng land shall, after the passing of this Act, be liable to any censure, penalty. or punishment whatever, in any Court Ealeslastical or Civil, for refusing to perform the Marriage Service over any person or persons who, having been mar ried and divorced, shall seek to be married again during the lifetime of the husband or wife from whom they have been divorced ander the provisions of this Act." On ques tion, whether the said clause shall be inserted—Contents, 26 ; Non-Contents, 78. CONTENTS. VISCOUNTS. DUKE. LORDS. Norfolk Dungannon Clifton (E. Darnley) MARQUIS. Gordon (E. Aber- Congleto a Westmeath deeu) Delamer° EARLS. Hutchinson (E. Ker (M. Lothian) Caruarvon (Teller) Donoughmore) Manners Hardwicke Bisuors. Oriel (V. Masse- Mayo Chichester recce) Nelson (Teller) Oxford Petre Portarliugton St. Asaph Red esdale Powis Loan. Stafford Romney Arundel' of Ward our Vaux of Harrowden NON-CONTENTS. Cranworth, L. Chan- EARLS. cellor Stanhope DUKE. Yarborough Cleveland Viscouyrs. LORDS De Ros Dynevor Downes 111Angums. Eversley Ailesbury Sydney Choimondeley Torrington Exeter BISHOPS. Townshend Bangor Winchester Kilmore, &c. EARLS. LORDS. Foley (Teller) Hudson (V. Falkland Kingston (E. Kings ton) Leigh Lilford Lyndhurst Abingdon Abinger geldrum(M.Huntly) Airlie Alvanley Monteagle (M. Sligo) Amherst Aveland. Mouteagle of Bran- Bantry Belper don Beauchamp Blantyre Mostyn Chichester Bolton Penshurst (V. Clarendon Brodriek (V. Mid- Strangford Derby • dleton) Ponsonby (E. Bess- Effingham Byron borough—Teller) Fortescue Calthorpe Rivers Graham (D. Mon- Ca , oys Sheffield (E. Shef ' trose) Campbell field) Granville Claudeboye (L. Duf- Stanley of Alderley Grey ferin & Claneboyo St. Leopards Harrington Clonbrock Sundridgo (D. Harrowby Colchester Argyll. Howe Colville of Culross Talbot de Malahide Minto Crewe Truro Morley De L'lsle & Dudley Walsingbam Pomfret De Manley Wensleydale Portsmouth Denman Wycombe HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MAY 28. OUR RELATIONS WITH BRAZIL. Motion made, and question put, " That a select committee be appointed to take into consideration the relations of this country will Brazil." The house divided :—Ayes, 17 ; noes, 312. AYES-17. Adderley, C. B. Hume, W. Bailey, C. Hutt, W. Cairns, 11. MacEvoy, E. Cobbett, J. M. Maguire, J. F. Corbally, M. E. Naas, Lord (reeve, John Napier, Sir C. Hamilton, Lord Claud Philips, R. Roupell, W. Smith, J. B. Turner, J. A. TELLERS. Roebuck, J. A. Bramley-Moore, J. NOES-812. Adeane, H. Fitzgerald, J. North, F. Akroyd, E. Fitzroy, Henry Ogilvy, Sir J. Althorp, Lord Fitzwilliam, C. Osborne, R. Anderson, Sir J. Fo'ey, H. W. Ossulston, Lord Antrobus, E. Foljambe, Francis Paget, C. A shley, Lord Forster, Charles Paget, Lord C. Atherton, W. Foster, W 0. Pakenham, Colonel Bagwell, John - Fortescue; Hon. F. Pakington, Sir J. Bailey, Sir J. Frazer, Sir W. Palk, L. Baines, Rt. lion. M. Freestun, Colonel Palmer, R. Baring. Sir F. Gall wey, Sir W. Palmer. Captain Barnard, Thomas Gaskell, J. Palmerston, Viscount Bernard, W. Gifford, Earl of Patten, Col. Bass, M. Gilpin, C. Paull, Henry Batnurst, A. A. Glyn, G. Paxton, Sir J. Baxter, W. Glyn, G. Pease, Henry Beach, W. Goddard, A. Pechell, Sir G. • Beale, S. Goderich, Viscount Pennant, Col. E. Beaumont, W. Grace, 0. Percy, J. Bennet, Capt. P. Greaves, E. Perry, Sir E. len thick, G. Greer, Samuel Pilkington, J. Biggs, John Gregory, W. Portman, W. Black, Adam - Gregson, Samuel Power, N. B ake, J. Grenlell, C. P. Price, W. Blakemore, T. Gray, Captain Pritchard, J. B .nham-Carter, J. Grey, lit. lion. Sir G. Ramsden, Sir j. Booth, Sir Rt. Gore Grey, it. Reynliam, Viscount Botlield, B. Griffiths, C. Rebow, J. Bovill, W. Grosvenor, Earl Repton, G. Bowyer, G Gurdon, Brampton Ricardo, 0. Brand, Hon. H. Gurney, J. H. Ridley, George Bridges, Sir B. Gurney, Samuel Robertson, I'. Brown, J. liackblock, William Holt, P. Bruce, Lord E. Hall, Sir Benjamin Russell, Lord J. Bruce, H. A. Honour.), Robert Russell, Sir W. Buller, J. W. Hankey, T. Rust, James Burghley, Lord Hanmer, Sir John Sandon, Viscount Bury, Viscount Harris, J.. 0. Schneider, Henry Buxton, C. Hatchell, John Scholefield, W. Cale tt, M. Hay, Lord John Scott, Captain Calcraft, J. Headlam, T. Seymour, Danby Campbell, R. J. R. Heathcote, G. Shelley, Sir J. t.arden, Sir Et. W. Henchy, D. - Smith, Y. Castlerosse, Vis. Heneage, Geo. F. Smith, A. Cavendish, Lord Hodgson, W. Smith, Sir F. Cayley, E. S. Hodgson, ', illiara Smollett, A. Cheetham, John Holford; R. Somerville, Sir W. Child, Smith Holland, E. Spooner, It. Christy, Samuel Hope, Alexander Stafford, A. Clay, James Hopwood, John Stanley, Lord Clifford, C. C. Homey, W. Stanley, W. Clifford, Lt.-Col. H. M. Horafall, T. Stapleton, John Cave, George Howard. C. Stephenson, Robert Clive, R. Hudson, G. Stirling, W. Close, X. Ingham, R. Stuart Lord Codrington, Gen. Jermyn, Rt. Ha. Earl Stuart, Colonel Colbrooke, Sir E. Jervoise, sir J. Sturt, H. Collins, T. Tier, Richard Sturt, C. Colvile, C. R. Kerrison, Sir E. Sullivan, Michael Cowper, W. Kersaaw, J. Sykes, Col. Coote, Sir C. H. King, J. Talbot, C. Conyngham, W. King, Edward Tay or, S. Conyngham, Lord F. Kinglake, A. Thompson, General Carry, 11. T. L. Kinglake, J. Thornely, T. Cotterell, Sir H. G. Kinnaird, A. Tollemache, J. Cowan, C. Kirk, W. Tottenham, C. Cox, W. Knightley, R. Townsherid, J. Craufurd, E. H. J. Laboucuere,Rt.Holl.H Trefusis, C. Cross, R. A. Langton, H. G. Trelawney, Sir John Crossley, F. Legh, G. C. Trollope, Sir J. Cubitt, W Lennox, Lord A. F. Vance, John Dalkeith, Earl Leslie, C. P. Vansittart, W. Dashwood, Sir G. Levinge, Sir R. Verney, Sir H. Davie, Sir H. It. F. Lewis, Sir G.C. Villiers, C. Davison, R. Liddell, H. G. Waddington, H. Denison, J. E. Long, W. Walcott, Admiral. Dering, Sir E. Lovaine, Lord Waridron, Laurence De Vere, S. E. Lowe, R. Walsh, Sir J. Disraeli, B. Luce, T. Warburton, Major Dodson, J. Lygon, Hon.F. Warre, John Drummond, H. Lytton, sir E. Wat kin, Edward Du Caue, C. Macarthy, Alex. Welby, W. Duke, Sir J. Macaulay, Kenneth Western, Thomas Duncan, Viscount Mackinnon, W. Westhead, Joshua Duncombe, A. Malins, Richard Whatman, J. Dundas, G. Mangles, R. D. Whitmore, H. East, Sir J. Mangles, C. Wickham, H. Ebrington, Viscount Martin, C. Williams, W. Egerton, Sir P. Martin, P. Williams, S x W. Egerton, W. Massey, W. Willyams, E. Ellice, E. Matheson, A. Will o ugnby, J. Ellice, E. Matheson, Sir J. Willson, A. Elphinstone, Sir J. Melguud, Lord Wilson, J. Lally ii, Viscount Merry, James Wingfield, R. E nn is, John Bliles, W. Winuingtou, Sir T. Esmonde, J. Miler, Taverner Wood, Sir C. Euston, tarl of Mills, Arthur Wood, W. Evans, T. W. Millies, it. Worst ey, Lord Evart, W. Morris, D. Windham, Gen. Evart, J. Mowbray, J. R. Wyndham, General Fagan, W. Mullings, J. R. Wyndham, W. ear ,uhar, Sir M. N,wport, Viscount Wyvill, M. Fenw.ck, H. Isic.al, D TELLERS. Ferguson, Colonel Nisbet, R. P. Finlay, A. Norris, J. T. Hayter, W. Mu'grave, Earl of BOARD OF ADMIRALTY. Motion made, and question select committee be appointed to inquire into the constitution of the Board of Admiralty, with the view of rendering it more efficient, and better adapted to the various duties it has to perform." The house divided :—Ayes, 35 ; Noes, 162. AYES-35. Anderson, Sir J. Elt a], Sir A. ~.;"__ Roupell, W. Bass, T. Gilpin, Charles Sibthorp, major Baxter, W. Greene, John Smith, J. B. Bowyer, G. Grogan, Edward Thompson, Gen. Caird, James Haekblock, W. Townsend, J. Cl fford, H. Hamilton, Lori C. Waldron, L. Cobbett, J. M. Macarthy, A. Williams, W. Coningham, W. MacEvoy, E. Wortley, Major Cox, William Maguire, J. Windham, Gen. Davison, E. Moo7e , G. TELLERS. Dillwyn, L. Neate, C. Napier, Sir C. Duke, Sir J. Lindsay, W. O'Donoghoe, The Elphinstone, Sir J. Peehell, Sir G. NOES-152. Akroyd, E. Foster, W. Ramsden, Sir J. Althorpe, Viscount Fortescue, C. Ramsay, Sir A. Atherton, W. Gifford, Earl of Raynham, Viscount Bagwell, John Glyn, G. Rebow, John Baines, Rt. Hon. M. Greaves, E. Ricardo, 0. Bernard, W. Greenall, G. Ridley, G. Beach, W. Greer, S. Rolt, J. Beale, S Grenfell, Chas. Rushout, G. Bethell, Sir It. Gray, Captain Russell, Sir W. Biddulph, R. M. Grey, Sir G. Rust, James Riggs, J. Grey, R. Schneider, H. Black, Adam Gu ney, J. Sclater, G. Blake, J, Gurney, S. Scott, Capt, Biandford, Marquis of Hall, Sir B. Seymour, Danby Bouverie, Hon. e. P. Hamilton, G. A. Sailth, R. Bramley-Moore, J. Harcourt, G. Smith, A. B Brand, H. Hams, J. Smith, Sir F. Bridges, Sir B. Hatehal, J. Spooner, R. Brown, W. Hornbi , , W. Staflord, A. Bruce, Lord E. Hudson, G. Stanley, Lord Buchanan, W. Hutt, W. Stapleton, J. Bury, Lord Jervoise, Sir J. Stephenson, R. Campbell, R. King, E. Sykes, Col. Carden, Sir It. W. Kinglake, A. Thornely, T. Castierosse, Viscount Kinglake, J. Tollemache, Fred. Lheetham, John Kirk, W. lrelawney, Sir J. Clark, J. Knatchbull-Hugessen Trollope, Sir J. Close It. Knatchbull, W. Turner, J. A. Cowper, W. F. Knight, F. Vansittart, G. Coote, Sir ‘l. El. Labouchere,ltt.Hon.ll Verney, Sir H. Conyngham, Lord F. Lewis, Sir G. C. Villiers, C. Cowan, C. Luce, T. Walcott, Admiral Craufurd, E. H. J. Mackie, J. Walsh, Sir J. Crossley, F. Mackinnon, W. A. Warburton, G. Cubitt, W. Malins, It. Warre, J. Dalg ish, R. Mangles, C. E. Western, S. Do Vere, S. Massey, W. Westhead, J. ~ i.. 1 duo, B. Matheson, A. Whatman, J. Dodson, J. Morris, D. Whitbread, S. I nummond, H. O'Connell, D. White, H. Duncan, Viscount Osborne, R. Ennis, John P age t, C. Esmonde, J. Paget, Lord C. J. Evans, I'. W. - Paerston, Viset. v Ewart, W. Paxton, Sir J. lm NNW l v V iii i nil l Williams, gni em ofinne x ,gt:jdo ß. :nR. , Sir SirW T. Ewart, J. Pease, 11. Wise. J. Fagan, W. Philipps, R. , Wood, Sir C. Finlay, A. Pilkington, J. Wyld, James Fitzgerald, J. Platt, James Fitzroy, Hon. H. Potter, Sir J. F fey, H. Power, N. Foljambe, W. Puller, C. TELLERS. nayter, W. Mulgrave, Earl of COLOGNE CHORAL UNION.—This distinguished society gave an evening concert yesterday at Exeter-hall. It consisted of a selection of some of the finest pieces per formed by this society ; and the execution was marked by all the wonderful finish and precision which make the Cologne Union stand alone among musical societies. Two solos—one by the tenor, Herr Paretti ; another by the baritone, Herr Du mont Fier, were encor e d ; the utter only being accepted. Variations on th e "Blip. were perfor me d disi," and " Home , Sweet Home," with grist taste and spirt on the pianoforte, by H err Brassin. This also obtained the honour of an encore. The room was well filled in all its part-, and the audi eons a pplauded with genuine delight, as they always do at this highly intere-ting musical enter tail] ment. The last evening concert by tai, distiogui, , hed society will be given on Thursday evaning next at Exeter HER, M JESTA"S THEATRE. TO-MORROW EVENING. ALBONI, SPEZIA, GIUGLINI, VIALETTI, and BENE VENTINO, Third Night of Verdi's Opera of IL TROVATORE. Leonora, Mdlle. Spezia ; Azucona, Madame Alboni, Manrico, Sig. Giugini. After which, will he revived the highly successful Ballet, by M. Perrot, entitled • L'AURORE, A which 11IdHe. Ratline wili make her first appearance this sew , on, For -p,trticulars sec bills. A limited number of boxes in the Half Circle Tier have oeen specially reserved for the public, and may be had on ap plication at the Box-office at the Theatre Colonnade, Flay market. Price One Guinea and One Guinea and a Half each. ER MAJESTY'S THEATRE. GRAND MORNING PERFORMANCE. MONDAY, JUNE 1. Piccolomini, Alboni, Spezia Ortolani, Giuglini, Reichardt, Bottardi, Beneventano, Belletti. To meet the many applications that have been made, and to accommodate the numerous farnili:.s resident in the en virons. a GRAND EXTRA PERFORNIANCE will take place on MONDAY MORNING, June 1, when will be performed Verdi's opera, LA TRAVIATA. Violetta, Piccolmini ; Alfredo, Sig. Giuglini. Germont Giorgio, Sig. l3cneventano. To be preceded by (arranged in one act), Rossiui's opera, IL BARBIE CIE DI SEVIGLIA. Rosina, Madame Alboui. Between the Operas a DIVERTISSEMENT. Morning Dress only will be necessary. Doors open at Ono, to commence at half-past One, and end at half-past Five. LES BOUFFES PARISIENS—St. JAMES'S THEATRE. Triumphant Success of the FRENC fi PLAYS. THIS EVENING (FRIDAY),' May 29, the entertain ments will commence at hale-past 8 o'clock precisely, by the production of (for the second time in this country), LE VIOLONNEUX. M. Guyot, M. Mesmacre, and Mdlle. Mareschal. After which (for the first time) Opera-Bouffe, en un Acte, L'IMPRESA RIO. M. Caillet, M. Charles Petitt, Mdlle. Dal mont, and Millie. Mace. To conclude with (for the third time), Operette, en un Acte. LA BONNE D'ENFANT, M. Guyot, M. Jean Paul, Mdlle. Mace, M. Anthonini. The Orchestra of the Theatre des Bouffes will acenm pany these Representations, under the direction of the composer, M. Offenbach. _ _ _ . . This Engagement being limited to one month, Performances will be given EVERY EVENING. Boxe;, stalls, and tickets may be engaged at Mr. Mitchell's Royal Library, 33, Old Bond-street. THEA TR E-R OYA L, DRURY-LANE. Lessee, Mr. E. T. Smith. OPEN EVERY EVENING. GREAT EQUESTRIAN AMERICAN and CONTINENTAL COMPANY, under the direction of Miss Ella. Prices—Pit and Promenade, is ; Boxes, 2s. 6d , 25., and Is. ' 6d. ; Galleries, 6d, Doors open at half-past 7. Commence at S. First Equestrian Artistes in the World : —Madame Schap lain, Madame Newsome, La Petite Wells, Signora Delavanti, and Miss Ella ; Miss E. J. Wells, Mdlles. Flora, Fabia, and and Marie, Misses Newsome, Moffatt, Delavanti, Potter, Jen nings ; the Manchester Boy, Masters J. Wells, A. Wells, E. Moffatt, Henrico and Carlo Delavanti, Sig. Felix Delavanti, Mons. Becq, Amis. Ferdinand, Mons. Eugene, Mr. Tom Swann, Mr. B. Fuller, Mr. W. Fuller, and the great Shaks perian Clown, Wallett, will appear each evening in a series of Performances, original and unapproachable. Director—Mr. Stokes, Acting Manager—Mr. E. Stirling. T HEATRE ROYAL, HAYMARKET Lessee—Mr. J. B. Buckstone. NEW ARRANGEMENT OF PRICES OF ADMISSION. THIS EVENING (May 29) to commence at Seven o'clock, with THE RIVALS. Followed by a new farce, MY SON DI ANA! After which, the successful Classical Love Story, un der the Apple-fation of A I'AL ANTA ; or, The Three Golden Apples : in which Miss M. Oliver will appear; also Miss M. Wilton, and Miss Ellen Ternan. In future the prices will be : Orchestra Stalls (which may be retained the whole of the evening), 6s. each. (No charge for booking.) First Price, s. d. Second price. s. cl. Dress Boxes 5 0 Dress Boxes 3 0 Upper Boxes ... 3 0 Upper Boxes... Pit . 2 0 Pit 1 0 Lower Gallery 1 0 Lower Gallery 0 6 Upper Gallery 0 ti No half-price to Upper Gallen'. OYAL PRINCESS'S THEATRE. , THIS EVENING will be performed Shakespere's tragedy of KING RICHARD THE SECOND. King Richard 11., Mr. C. Kean ; Queen, Mrs. C. Kean. Preceded by a new Farce, in one act, called AN ENGLISHMAN'S HOUSE IS HIS CASTLE. THEATRE ROYAL, A DELPHI. Lessee—Mr. Ben. Webster. THIS EVENING, will be performed the Adelphi drarsa of THE GREEN BUSHES. Madame Celeste, Mr. 'Wright, and Paul Bedford. Followed by a new Farce, called FEARFUL TRAGEDY IN THE SEVEN DIALS. To conclude with the new and original domestic sketch, entitled WELCOME, LITTLE STRANGER. Mr. Wright, Mr. Paul Bedford, &c. R OYAL OLYMPIC THEATRE. Lessee, Mr. Alfred Wigan. THIS EVENING will be performed THIEVES ! THIEVES ! ! After which, a new drama, called DADD Y HARDACRE. Mr. Robson, &c. To conclude with A SPLENDID INVESTMENT. Commence at half-past Seven. A. AND ROY AL AMP MTH EATRB AND OPERA HOUSE. Lessee and Manager, Mr. W. Cooke. Under the patronage of Her Majesty and His Royal Highnesa Prince Albert. The most perfect triumph ever witnessed at this theatre has been achieved by the eminent Operatic Artistes, in IL TROVATORE, which has been nightly received with the utmost enthusiasm, while Mr. Wm. Cooke's Equestrian II; lustrations have met with every demonstration of approve. , and applause. THIS EVENING, and during the week, Verdi's far-famed Open of IL TROVATORE ; or, rhe Gipsy's Vengeance. The whole of the Music as performed at the Italian Opera, and Equestrian Illustrations. Miss Rebecca Isaacs, Miss M. Somers, and Miss Fanny lluddart. Mr. Augustus Braham, Mr. Brookhouse Bowlei, Mr. Francis Kirby, Mr. J. A. Leffler, and Mr. Borrani. Conductor and Composer—Herr Meyer Lutz. With a 'powerful Band and Chorus. Manager and Direbtor of the Opera Company—Mr. Augustus Braham. To conclude with a recherche programme of novel and matchless SCENES in the ARENA, in which the celebrated Brothers, Francisco's, will appear for the fifth time since their return from America. CommeLce at seven o'clock. Dress Boxes, 4s. ; upper Boxes, 3s. • Private Boxes, from 215., no charge for booking; Pit, 2s. ; Gallery, Is. ; Upper Gallery, 6d Notice--During the Opera Season Half-price will take place at 9 o'clock. Box-office open from Eleven till Four. Stage Manager, Mr. W. West. Equestrian Director, Mr. W. Cooke, jun. CA.NTERBITRY HALL, Westminster-road.-- OPEN EVERY EVENING.—The follow ng company of Vocalists are engaged for the performance of 'elections from all the popular Operas, Madrigals, Choruses, Glees, Duets, die., viz.: Miss E. Pearce, Mrs. J. Caulfield, Nfiss Brunel], Miss Summers, and Madame Marietta; Mr. J• aulfield, Herr F. fonghmans, R. Grover, T. Farrant, S. Tones, J, Barker, W. Melling, P. Corri, Senor Antonio T l . • rle Solla, and E. L. Hime ; Masters Bennett and Corri; Messrs. Sam Cowell, Sam Collins, and E. Macknel• Pianoforte, Mr. Cecil Hicks; harmonium, J. Caulfield, jun.; lirector, Mr. J. Caulfield. Commence at Seven o'clock pre' cisely. Suppers, die., until twelve o'clock. awn WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. THIS DAT—Morn. 57 min. aft. s—Evening 21 min. aft. 6 To 40E110W—Morn. 52 min. aft. 6—Even. 21 min. aft THE WEATHER,--Suw Ormoz, MAY 29. THERMOMETER, IN THE SHADE. 70—highest since noon yesterday. 53 —lowest this morning and during the night. 62 —this day at noon. BARMINrEIt, 29.99. WIND, N ; light, with dull weather. ICjIl , 2 LONDON, FRIDAY, MAY 29, 1887 Although we fully concur in one of the princi ples, last night enunciated by the Honourable and Learned Gentleman the member for Sheffield , viz.—that it is exceedingly desirable that the British Parliament should " resume the func tions which for some time past it had abdicated , respecting our relations with foreign States"-- 108 rejoice at the signal failure of his motion for s ' select committeelto inquire into the relations wi th respect to Brazil, evidenced by the decisive mai °- rity of 295—there being only 17 in favour an d 312 against his proposition. We are satisfied that Mr. ROEBUCK would be one of the last men in the world deliberately or intentionally to stimulate the abominable traffic in human flesh an d blood. But we are fully convinced th at even temporary success would have ha d that effect. It would naturally be re garded as a retrograde movement •on the part o f England, a virtu a l admission that she had here tofore gone too far, and was desirous of relaxing her exertions, and permitting "unrestr icted com petition" in African slaves. Fond ai we Pre of " Free Trade," that is point to will nei rectly, she will topic, I suspend remains the Bra e charges 1 826. ] ready foi any mom may end solemn o to that Britain t the Braz With the that pror We unnec loader ? 11 ent to Whether that the S Urance It is E Zealously tuba or 1 Ns of th be aggraN efforts fox that -accc Becurity ; should sti test ever li lgrant h i lah hand st ruggle t an y Comp to our int Alt Loi 847, 3 trad hearts of I 11° lug wh( lied who I /r ho only 'gage agz 141 1 might c hange th( t he action a ti of 184 kee, we a 44 c1 have liiversati or It i s a poi , der a sh fore, We fltetion 411 ttle by t' rejecting tl d 80 con " tilol ' B has, Present me ! d uce par 7 111 ( 1 be t Dar. 4 ° l l/ th e t am ed, at a Very c majority The Ills °tit ) is doi of ill . Th 4 carried, It was, as b. " Of a ino 'ight Re Bc ruples" ° PPosition tespected that no p churc the strict 4 Vee to b to be save liahrnent, acted on of the of 4tu l if he I . ll ire fur Ir ages 01 honour, 4. Ye mor more th Shame f laity fo: image; tenaovel t aken a , Prineipl 110 'Ong t hat Lc ac ted 0 ° tepee by crin 40N, p , , , , 44 d vf( th e L s anctic sent s k bonail YOt l