The Sun. — London, England, 1817-03-07 00:00:00

- r PRI VA 'lt CORRESPONDENCE. [FROM A MORNING PAPER.] PARIS, MARCH Moniteur of to-day an nounceii that Prince Talleyrand resmned yester- ,. day the functions of his place of High Chamber lain. The Moniteur does nut mention, hut it is certain, that he had yesterday morning a private atahience of his Majesty, which lasted above half `'acs hour. Some Jay, that foreign influence was employed to procure his re-admission to Court; others suggest that M. de C,.having strong rea . Aotisto suspect one at his colleagues of intriguing against him, had it intimated to the Fritter, that if he wrote a letter to the Premier Gentilhomme, Eris exile would be revoked. It is certain, that the letter was written, and the Prince received per mission to return to Court: It is also certain, that all the fe'ends of., the colleague above alluded to speak very cooteniptoously both of the talents and of the character of M. de C. ; and it is not to be supposed that they do this without being atithorizett; at least, by the silent - consent of their pat ron. This being the case, it is very tattural that the Minister of Police should thitil, that the re-ad mission into the interior circle of the Kiog, of N. tie Talleyrand, who is acquainted with the whole history of the rival in question, (and who cannot be supposed to wish trim well, after his late denunciation of what the Prince had said in a private company), pot effectually prevent this hitter Gentleman front gaining, any confidence with his Sovereign. It is a great misfortune for Al, de C., that he has TM partisans on whom he can rely : he is all-powerful for the present, but his pi o depends on personal favour : he was never t ill now in a position to hrese any adherents, , ID6ng favoured neither by birth nor place': no one is eceustouted by long habit to look up to him as a leader. With the system he pursues, be is forced to employ revolutionary tirols; but these .very tools are,,habituated to look upon those who ate now trying to attack him as their natural Never did a man_ possess. greater power ,than be does. The Minister of. Foreign Affairs . is become a mere cipher : the Minister of the fine tior is entirely under his direction ; or if eve!' he resists, be is forced instantly to yield : the other Ministers obey implicitly his mandates : the Duke of Feltrc alone ;Jai 50111t0111CS resisted with 3110CeSS. "There was three days ago a report, which still exists, that AL rozzo di 'largo was on the eve of - being recalled, and that Al. de Alarcon . was to replace hint..: however that may be, he was very near meeting with an, accident of a more serious rotore. On ,Saturday, in the middle of the night, as N. Pozzo Borgo was going through the Place Vendome, some pact of tite harness of his horses broke,., end they set off 'at (sill gallop. It, appears that be completely lost his presence of mind, for, though the danger on such an occaion in a four-wheel' carriage in a town is exiretnly lie preferred jtonping out of the carriage ; the consvoinence naturally was, that he fell on his head ; no limb was broken ; nod fortottioely 'the contusions were not so violent as might have been expected : he has been bled srveral times, but no danger is apprehended. " 1 eras newr forgetting to mention, that every body says that M. Pastptier„ Voted against his col leAgoe, the Minister of Marine, on the question of the Navy Budget." FRENCH LOAiL 'J'itc , 14r110..rifig. 4110)10041n 'the sithject of Stir FrericilLoan has reached tits from :---- " to 'be lialleillitted, knit to o jtit9 execution As boon as the budget - pii.scfl, which will now be in a fear days., The roues are then tti'be given 'to the contractors, Borings, Hope, llagnmdt, Lafitte, nottiogoer, and ,Gretinhle. The inteiest is to begin on the V.2il March. The .t. nan_to'he paid in instahnents nl St 4 per cent. each mooch, beginning in Mate!' ; .and the balance of lir per cent. in December.. The power of stlling the stock to remain in the hand 3 'of the adniinistrators that are here, Bagnatili, La flue, 1-lottingaer, and Greffnhle, 0114 they to account- with the other takers for the same. They rite to c.+ll only for a hark wanting to pay the :instalments at the periods tinted ; ,that is, g i v i ng credit for whatever stock they sell. They are phli gc d to li s tioldate au plus Lard, the 30th of June,` /818. 1 am. informed that every thing will be settled with the underholders long before that . 1 II not ` he 11t . 41 - =thn., and tat we s.lit upon r t he of,mote than half the instalments., as loittielent .stock will be sold the rest. We ,have the liberty of selling owl =transferring our tugseepietits jos they are eallcd), which are al y much sought ofter. 141 r. Oaring has turned t tole million of lois share of the loan, and re- .11111 only d bunt 26,0001. which shows that no' • oyo..ey hte, remitted from. England, and also of the eschangcs rising agoln."—rPlorn Og, Paper .) ROMAN CATIIdIAC4*. AFFAIRS. The Roman Cat holick Committee met On Mon day at Capel-strect,Dublin, Sir TnomAs ESNIONDE in the Chair; when the extraordinary Letter %vhich follows, tvritten...b.y Mr. IlAvEs, the Ddegate of the Anti-Veto or Mountain Faction at Rotne,was prorhtcect by Mr. (Mob:NELL It Was read as part of O'ColvNitt.L's speech, after sonic opposition offered in consequence of its being addressed to Mr. MAC DONNELL, and" not to Air. HAY, the Sc- „cretary. This Epidtle at least proves one thing, that from the days of LOYOLA, the body to which he belonged itas not lust one iota of its spirit and capacity for intrigue, nor one particle of its ex orbitancambitiOn. Such an exposure of cunning, of undermining, of zealous application of every possible engine to effect a purpose, of jealousy,, of uncharitableness, of malignity, anti of chil canery we never remember to have perused. We trust it will open the eyes of Protestant Britain, which has to guard alike against the pretensions of Vetoists and the Aggressions of Anti-Vetoists.— When the are allowed to see so much of the ma chinations beforehand, we should he drivellers indeed wese we to throw faciThies into the lianas of such designing Tricksters " Rome, St. liitlorei, Feb. I, 1917. " DEAR APDOWNELL,—We have had strange scenes here since I wrote to you last, and they are, perhaps, of more importance than either the rank or talents of the eetors would iquee you to think probable, or even poisible. The actors are young %Vise, late of Waterford, and a Mr. Ball, who is called a Counsellor, and perhaps is one. The arrival of these two has given a lift to the drooping spirits of the Vetoista here. Gousalvi, who found they signed the Vetoistital Petitiou, tesolved to employ them lot' : his purposes. They certainly had letters of introduction to hint trout Cox Hippesley and Lord Castlereagh, but this latter I have not as yet folly ascertained, • Be that It's it may—Gonsalvi took care to have them in troduced to the Pope, to Cardinal Litta, and to several other important persons, as well in official us in private stations, and these youths have re peated to every onepf, them a lesson which they have got by heart, to this effect—that all the pro petty, education and respettability of the Catholics of Ii eland were favourable to the Veto—that the Clergy were also secretly inclined to that measure; but were over-ruled by the common mob, and terrified into an opposition inconsistent with their oven judgment. • • " To these misrepresentations, these two gay young Gentlemen have added every edits - lire argil- Ment and calumny, calculated to remove the fears of the Holy et!, and to induce "tome to grant the Veto to Government. In a word, they have en dea vonred in every way to fulfil the wishes of their unworthy promptors, and to counteract tice wishes of Ireland. " Ball left •this ten days ago, and is the, bearer of instmetions (written or verhal I know nut) front Consolvi to the Vetoists. Ss,'ls said that h e was to pt tiro hither soon ; Vise remains as per nisitent correspondent. Ball had . a I.Sng commu nication with Gonsalvi on the morning al his de perture.s This young man has been also telling about the City, that his Holiness received me very badly, and turned the out of his presence !! ! What Netry will he not fell in Ireland, as his in yr:lotion is so powerful even here, where the con trary is so notorious ? 1 have questioned Master %Vise on the above facts, who, after much hem ming and busying, admitted that he and Mr. Ball did make Ike a fo resaid representations to the. Pope—Gonsalsi and Lilts, HS individuals indeed, but not officially. Yon know what %Atte to set upon this very equivocal species of exculpation.----. .1 hey have been much assisted in , thus officiously volunteering against their religion and country by die Bev. Mr. M'Pherson and the Bev. Mr. Tay- Inr—one the Agent, the other the Gentlemen Usher of the Anti-Irish Faction, who have pushed themselves into notice, and thrown every door open to their misrepresentations. " Every thing tells me the Faction in and out of tho'Hottse !specs s topasS the Veto, or writ se— HippeSley's plait, this Session. Voting Grattan writes from the. North of Italy, that his tether expects, th.;* year : , to succeed 'at length in the great object of his wishes. The British Con sul here receives frequent letters, urging' him to work the intim ill the Coitrt - of Home. Theliarno of Oniptedir is to ii rive in a few Weeks as Iloilo veriao Ambassador, a th iog hitherto unknosSn. He left Hanover in December ; .tinder this - mete he is to transact the IntiinesS of the British Cabi--; net: he is .atiended by Professor Deist, a deep, learned politidian, but sworn enemy to the Ca tholic Religirts.',' On his art i,,d, Consalvi (ibis I hay!! irons the best ,iothority) expects :to settle every tiling as the British Government wishes. it is trite,. that Ordinal Litta now abhors the Veto more, if possihle, .then ail Catholic in lrelitod, and the Pope is resolved *to take no step without- his advice.; yet you may Judge of the activity of, Gonsalvi's Intrigues, when yse see that be bas converted the miserable farce of those silly boys, Wise and Ball, ioto all the importance of is re- !' oho. diplomatic mission. ', Every means; have also been taken to cor ' rept, mislead, and impress out the Members of . both Houses, that have been here this winter, that both Rome and Ireland will submit to the Veto. Alessrs. Mscpherson ;Sod Taylor employ themselves in proselyting the Anti-vetoistical ' Members.-: . " An Irish Member, one of onr Most distin guished friends, in confidence told, me some months ago, that there were no less than hive Se cret agents here from Government, and the Veto-' kis very active agaiast us ;-front veiled I knew, and have since discovered, I ettl) 11$111C them, viz. Macpberon, Taylor; Dennis, the Consul, Ball, and Wise, You the storm shrestens, and - should Litta be 'deluded,. overpowered, or it/ a', orAtanee, as I;tratt last yt At' in Milan, noa alone kilo is what Goosalvi dull dinpteda, backed-by the misrepresentations of the Vetoists, here end at home, may effect, I ant now indeed glatl i .that I did not depart when Litta gate the written an swer for the Nation_ in October List. I shall light it opt here till the end of the Session, and sink or swim with the cause. " The Aggregate Meeting of Cork, in April last, voted me thanks and confidence, As the Iris, Euvoy, yet never transmitted me its Recirlutions, The Aggregate Meeting of the 17th of December last; in Dublin, voted me the same ;, and Coyne writes to we, that Sir Thomas*Esurmide, had sent me-that Resolution on the 24th of December last, but this I suppose lie forgot to do, as I never re- Tceived it. Indeed I have not received ities.e eight months a line - from one -of you, (except a few words Coyne wrote we 0.11 ChriStinas-doy.) 1 make no doubt that my letters have been inter repted, and I fear that many letters of mine never • lett Rome, for the Receiver at the Post-Office here, -was lately arrested .tor burning many of the post paid letters, and patting the_money into , his pocket, and as no register has been kept, I cannot discover whether - toy letters . werc thus - de stroyed. or --not ; but I ant morally certain they were,- as being larger they were more tempting to.this public robber. The French', too, stop the English and Irish Newspapers passing through Paris. What a combination of misfortunes, Ita lian villainy, French tyranny, British corruption, VetOistical calumny, and, more than all, apparent Irish neglect, hare conspired to throw your affairs into the utmost difficulty and danger; and now 0: never a mote powerful endeavour should. be made in Ireland or the infernal Veto, with all its tribe of evils, - religious and political, will sink the; wretched Country:of our•birth anti dearest ffec tions lower than she has been even in the ptrriolls of blOody persecution. For thy part, I can only exert my pour tacrlties here—ildeizie and Lament, The best advjse 1 tarn possibly give you is, that the Association should immediately call an Aggre gate Meeting, to disavow Wise and Ball, and any other persons making representations to his Holi- • ness in favour of the Veto, and strongly .repro bating that measure. - Secondly, to nsssociate With me Dr. Dromgoole, and the Bev..Mr. 141 4 Atiley, who is here- known by his title Of Count " J wrote to you before to preSS the nivoint tnent of Dromgoole. This -was not clone. How much the cause and I have been injiired_and re tarded thin eby ! Had he, a Laymair, been joined with me, Gonsalvi never would have dared to set up the-mock mission. of Wise and. Bat. Bat what is past—is past. ,If you do not, Inrwever, 'appoint Dromgoole now, the cause is lost. At Route, lay foreigner i s a l wa y s more respected than, an Ecclesiastic, though he be a , Bishop ;.• For the Pope, Cardinals, and Prelates look upOn an Ec clesiastic as thei r own su bj ect and subaltern—not so a laymarni. This was the case with DoctorMil ner when here. He had shoals of Finglilh fay men,_Catholics and Protestants against bin), And not one for him: It is so with me noiv. sands of English ai•e here ; every single: man at them are presented' by Taylor to the Pope, eggeison by this Gentleman Usher, RIO (;(111Silla; they hove all spoken in faVintr_Of the Ve,tn. " Patience and obstinacy have carried) me • through a great deal, but now I cannot do more without- assistiocc ; and 1 hereby commission you to demand n►y recall at the next Aggregate Meet ing, unless Dromgoole and MeAuley be appointed my co-deputies. Of Dromgoolc I shall say po thing, but that he now speaks Italian well, und • 'rovidence seems to hove sent him hick to me from Naples, in gokl , bealth, ennfortml at this alarming crisis the host of Roman, Irish, Eng lish, Scotch C,ltholic and Protestant Vetoistical and Government intrigues, now mustering here against poor Ireland. " Of i\l'Auley I shalt say more, as Ireland does younger. brother to not yet know him: Count 'WA uley, Prime Minister of the Avelultschos Marin Lottisu of Permit,' Ex-Eutpretis of. Friinee. The t:volnothers left I eland in 1802, and finish ed their education at Parma; where the elder marrying info nne . of the first families (Cer t .,lo was advanced to many high offices: In Isl 4 he became head of the Pro% tonal Government of the Micky, and was sent by Pius the Seventh as Iris Ambassador F.xtraordinary to congratulate the c ro w i l ed Ilead4 11451.00 AM ut Paris, and demanded the restoration of the Papal dominions. , When on the point of proceeding to London, on the same embassy to the . Prince Regent, he was supersedell by Cardinal Gonsalvi, a ho would not let slip that opportunigy of forming his acquaintance with the Court of Carlton-house—an acquaintance which threatens to prove's() fatal to Ireland. Returning to Parma, Count M'Auley Perini continued to govern the Duchy until it was made osier at the Congress of Vienna, to the Duchess Maria Louisa, whose Prime Minister he then became, and now 'occupies the post of High Chancellor, with talent and reputation, adding one more luminary to the galaxy of the transplanted Irishmen, who, in every age, have been the admiration of Europe. ," younger AP Auley, who is here in person, and who bears the 4itle i of Count, also accompa nied his brother as Secretary of Legation to Paris, afterwardi visited his native land, where he re mained for some time, and being called to the Ecclesiastical State, resolved to dedicate himself to the toils of the Irish`Mission. With this view he-returned to the Continent to pursue hi 9 stmlies, and is now at Rome on an important affair com mitted to his charge by the Austrian govern merit, upon the conclusion of which, he intends to prosecute his studies here. lie will. soon receive Priesthood, • and, although he has been much pressed to accept of the Prelate's cloak, which, from his high connexion would be soon laid aside for the Cardinal's hat,- he, by rejecting the offer, has sliewn that he pi efers the humble station of. an Irish Curate or,Parish Priest to the proudest honours of• the Roman Contr. This worthy Irishman has offered me his valuable ser vices in the .Cause; he- bas already spoken strong ly and: at length, to the-Pope in a day or tiro ; he' geti audience of his Holiness, with whom he lots Inert long personally acquainted-and familiar, just 14.8 Cripiittals and Ambassadors do, when be pleases, and without s,iving previous notice,-:--he is quite independent of Gonsalvi's intrigues, who tears h im tin ficcount of his Austrian Si nection The above sketch is ma tter for y o ur 9 e " the Aggregate-40dt t hen, a re the ovi, detnftml for my Co-adintors, that they 101 l with efficacy against the calamniating 'l.Pail, fill Vetoists here, and give to your tleP" ra i li t ,' l . , dignity and force which a coarse friar's 03 ', so humble a person as your poor friend l?'` 1 most in vain endeavoured to sustainfrit•Git the Catholics of Ireland seize this 104 4 1 ,, deuce, for if such two men are not inso nl ' ? tment brings no'' “1, !-- loppor, P el° p p e o a i l nt i e t, d is (a ins nd t. their appoin , cause tiOnal expence or inconve nience) the S t a n u:e:y l t S:e l e i o tchtreeeriseisni.olyicilocilttelilaoyrnri‘e?litc.tiiititnillinhentecifilo' Irle:iiii:001.1r1: these . two young Trimbletonians Pr°ve/•:iit that the Faction not daring to se'r' r a te r°6l. 4 they public l'etition, hope, by p 11347 meat, to paralize the Association, onateir,:c'e, laud into a mor t a l lettiarg'y--while tile Y-e, Rousei ng the a r: e o poison i ()foil 'thenlit.t, ibnottililnbee,rteo and ° I it ' ul f.. - ists in the House from pissing rest"rircge:l;:itilli pare the Clergy for persecution, itl CaS e tlig o o Should be , passed ; and, above all, get t er, (1°"4.0, 1 for the last time require in this , 1 1 0 ":ishi to prevent the holy &ee from " 11 '0 both the Veto and the persecution.; 0ni15:04, the grief •of publishing to Ireland the s :d desertion of. the Leaflets .of the Assueillidirl I " rousing the entire people to ertrYl'i' !istance that the law permits. use d° Make every prudent and necesflrY, o ri letter ,...pa“l,...Freie,3.s,s;enc ; co. ef t , ' 1 ,A l i l: }il l y i: 111 1 ,1 3 ;, re l it t . et ri e ii .s .1‘, % 1 1 1 : ). u u bAi c ii Ii it ( ) : l o t I s ii, e l is: oaii :l , i i i ,l i : , ertp t : i t ii 3 ,0,4 1 t ev ;: i i 4 t t. t hw t t l i i t' c el s : e ‘s i ls) w i,oi - o fl o ite l l !l : l lfi r 9 i r i t i l3 t t :s % r e' s cAr' s al t l i ce n ii : 4l:lt;elkaall':•ll ks :ll:lll,ll'l)°; clidcl-AN.ottred to zvalons and distinguished friend of hi s c o General Mathew, urging, trial all di' ! ' l , demons, every false account owl .jdoite me:it—but i rk vain. . I h i , cigg- - : ,To the ~ , it . Lvesolutioni ii3VC above - 1) - j ot won . ' Id be very wise to add anotlicr' Y ri I n pervert to Veinl.oi the Catholics of Ireland would solenoll'ietil against,, any interference of the Rowel z,',,,git . (if - )tate in their affairs, as irregator 14,4;10 ittlise'eli,fititl c ontrary ~ to their oaths of 111141 o : British Government. ~ ~ - print, ttii) . lica cb t i c lod : 1111 h )le i yi a lPi r e l a t s l i t eli: e s s il s cel?1 lutbytYi7pll:ls:tini,llb;lviriegicillin')lglisiglillill I,!salaelice Cardinal Litta, Prvlect of l i r 1 Home.' • ad ° wily tl i ftoto n :ca, t oloite r splia i tol g eele:::,di t ,s t snysi e tti.3yetsc ; : s tiv:(seoptittrip, sc isyclicut b itest ° ,:t.:ll,ocegi.e ; iiryr, " l,lo; c i.iri;,t ; :ii i ii e o,,lci,,iiiii :: :: : ver l eg i f ruf s nlisaion of Ball and IVise smart in r,„,, ► 10 1 ',, verbal' . t lt :i r bas g e „ ef e S t : ltYt . i l o l l i)i r e t .io l ii i l irit , i ‘ c i)s bl . .j il t a ! ua , 4 : y:ttal Biii ; :i , it: ; : l ie:' ;' vi t ce t n i ii : ltt o aihi l opi r : i te e irtitloisreoc b t Ball's e p . entrusted with confidential countionic°,oolllll!' the Court of Rome ; depend on it dot a folly, p there Li very considerable thinger'pett it i t iii. nog: : Past,tii 1 e e e . p s are ,d the ire Ireland i t I t public 1 . l i e s throup,ll Y r e nfO ill e I r nt i Y -or passing thc:fiesolittions InIT/d/ivfil Y Oll '''' not, I shall make usc of The riot it ° 4 ... 1 fIL Ruse 1I ta t il lte i IS'ae7orrird°PCsi:;:dccelliri‘ c o b i antig:: i C o le r rg°ll - 1#1°; send st front each l)iocese a short b i ld io O tt ; ratiee in concurrence with the ri c `;' i , , j-1: the Veto,and f .or.Dnintstic NOilliini'iielitii:‘,olr tins the. robbery o f the B or osa Poot ho orv , iyeOstlf Paper. anti warn all those With 14 1 w e, fd ~ inp olid, or who expected letters al l t ipt 1 . t n nit , 01 those they have reeei''",,,pri't Pl(}e_tvlticla of my letters have licc" ; ve l i ji Lot inc hem . irony von fully, lq i ' g c, o o.) if t _._ flay , to sent! me the official conifOnic 11" le_soluttons relating to my Anl' sbn)...- Mao Donnell, youts, Bte• ii,oiri ' s .l titi l eir_ i ts e oll: l l . ce e yn s I n e l r t i t o f thisof the A 1 e a e g t i l lt: i g e n : le ". ” 1 " e : .ti ' l l .. ' A l' sn : i c i i . t l l o l : e ;; : i I; another C ' a i . ):ni u Y i t e l o i s i t i t:t v i e o l e k r t v Ai 1 ftII:le. 171111:6: 34 a (il CI :1,,11.1: ......— :iiini... IC isl o4l u nity for the coos alO the Letter. The Dublin &ening re sit' : 0 1 1 ? ts,e‘iells this Sheet was about to be 13 :„ th'tif tho I i cgsrnled that Mr. HAV. SCCroorYfr, (Tit TAN, (I'C'4l(l received -a Vetter fr°1.....1 oo 6 po to I( (115 r in favour of aN' °l t ( ' , „gly 4 from Sir lissißY PARNELL, 4,1 il- nature." ------- • , nusti Ill'O'ES.. ic t (Froni the Dublin tosi,.) . ' o ,c ' i r i tll f. l e., BAL o._ mi LINA, MARCH 1.,--A 50 100 9 •-°0 lorree' a l t / t 1 . lesday last, -in consequence of 111 „t te,:' l ? emPting to prevent the oppositi°" r -i,4 ~,)oatmeal Cars, which were on the 4 1 11 ,Y ar eci`,'" . 1 9 1 e mob assembled on the hill of Ar t ' A nil :i,l r1‘. ‘ 14, 4 1 ; 1 1 el:Pill:1Ni the e°ge t ‘ria l ut t sl e iblitreY n itlr i a l ". l e i Ya t (l‘ ? l r Psb y gfa:ne ei ; : r tic' e s.l : lB l l s t °e'f. .mall After e a r i tl a I this! t cl' ' e 5: I I: 111 ) f a: c 0 ; r is ii i i t i t ' 0 1 :11 c lici :: : ":11:5 rit :111: i i f t ' 0 1 4 i n l : 1.0 ii : ~ 0 v h ( (. e ei iii findi y • i e t from: I i . 1 t , i 1 i s . c e e v c o r te the y I I I : I s r s i a o i I t e e r d 9 h i Y o s t ; : t o it i, °;l ? , h i l t Y t"T.BS r estored, 1 trom 15 to 20 wounded in th e° i'f' o/ i „,,t, t t n . : t at t ti e retulfttl . tl taiGa:ttltwo:a::l:llAsYi)eein .118ivinifilli;ir scene of riot. w e reYeeiveil the fli i il ore ( . € l ,l • (.intwAir, Aj„c" 2......Thi, 10ce.,,,,„, 0 1 r o; the mob gathered in iMmease c l. "' “ till Ilr. cceded to t h e quay. where lour °riwoilli scene to-Atty. Ati,„°,l-1,, tio‘-joi; were loaded, cvaitinc fur I , wina, i',114.1 digi'ool, rt. a w ay their was's°, and tietnoti4l4Lotioo4llV " a wirsithaYnor;uwol.)ao brii.ti4ti)tolie j a n i t ) e i , 4 l t' i tic o, o': it sl r ' i ti t i (is 1, ° - Jo- '' , l4 , Then re, —/ ' - • iNtil , i i dot) , p .eetied and broke the . 0 .„, ~i , ,,) • 13' &c. of ever sto re in the 1 " r oe", is partly subdued ; • but we eXPecti:lo,lll Cll4. Ulut row, a nd G o d knows where l'