The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser. — Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1849-02-20 00:00:00

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Oastle r lion Ica; iota le of6cia.'.4ll labour' hat the 130 , 0 1 led in fsi i tif )sition to ta istrate e, alludes eeting Aced to su .e ,, ng their ' O , they '' comfort e° et ' s1;;;t ° lw il • Oa ty- - hUTl:fiti'; notice To'ori r twelve e 13th E. J. P e lf the ballk s 01 mile frog'" erpool t )1y ap i11(4 the sk l e• o'cloc/ , est, and ;11 , it among o'/ o .nd, It one t'"" ided, bud spe c '; ev er hau , , The all; P P e Esq. ,Ti l s itt 'ul can rses, (". Ir. Jar a " lassforat Pl °°° P l ` aun ce, P • e-Wl ll° ?ars of ;541 river 1M t '. - - £ 4 ; J oy, , ze, to flo c R 3; ; J e d tD: nmena a k . RiChS l 4 O , t by Thow ADJOURNED COUNCIL MEETING The adjourned meeting of the Town Council was held on Wednesday, the Mayor in the chair. Mr. Quick read proceedings of the Courts of Law and St, George's Hall Committee, the confirmation of which was moved by Mr. J. B. Lloyd, who announced that Mr. James Robinson had presented to the committee'a beau tiful painting of Mont Blanc, by Mr. G. M. Fripp. A. vote of thanks was given to Mr. Robinson for his splen- did gift. The proceedings of the Markets and Education Com mittees having been adopted, the Mayor drew the atten tion of the Council to the fact that a sufficient Council had not assembled until twenty minutes past eleven, and stated that in another minute he should have adjourned the Council. Mr. Tinne moved the confirmation of the proceedings of the Health Committee, and in doing so said that the Select Vestry had stated that they did not in future intend to use the fever sheds. With regard to four police con stables employed by the Health Committee in the nui sance department, he supported their being paid out of the general fund, on the ground that they were useful in keeping the cellars clear. If the four officers were to be paid by the Health Committee, the committee would have to organize a''regtilar medical police staff, which would cause an increased expenditure.—Mr. Rimmer se conded the motion.—Mr. Turner objected to the four policemen being paid out of the general fund, on the ground that they had never been employed in the duties of regular policemen.—The Town-clerk said, in reply to question from Mr. Turner, that if they did not take - - 4- in as- f ' pars, ae duties of regular policemen, they could not be paid out of the ordinary fund.—Mr. Harbord regretted that, by the decisive opinion which the Town-clerk had given, he had, in effect, put a veto upon that part of the proceedings of the Health Committee which referred to the payment of the four policemen out of the general fund. He considered the opposition now offered very ill timed, when the committee were making every effort to -prevent the spread of cholera.—Mr. Parker, Mr. Cooper, Mr. S. Holme, Mri Tobin, and other members, consi dered that the Health Committee should pay the servants employed in their own departinent.—Ultimately an amendment that that part of the proceedings be not con firmed was carried by a majority of 20 to 7.—The bye laws for the regulation of slaughter-houses led to an extended discussion, particularly the clause relating to diseased cattle ; and considerable amusement was afforded by Mr. Parker stating that it was very easy to tell a dis eased cow when living, the fact being that lie bought one the other week for a friend of his which had got the milk fever. It was accidentally stated that Liverpool was a sort of central depot for diseased cattle.—A proposition to appoint Mr. Newlands, the borough engineer, as archi tect to the public baths and wash-houses, was oppoSed by Mr. Thomson and other gentlemen, on the ground that Mr. Weightman had plenty of time to attend to the duty; and this was merely the ground-work of an attempt to raise Mr. Newland's salary. This was, however, denied by Mr. Tinne ; and Mr. Thomson's motion, upon being put, was lost. The proceedings of the Water Committee set forth the var ious contracts entered into for the construction of the Rivington Pike works. They also comprised a list of the parties to whom compensation was to be made, and fur ther stated that in two or three instances there were dis-' puted cases of compensation, which would have to be referred to juries. The proceedings also stated that in structions had been given to Mr. Hawksley to proceed with his contract, and that Mr. Simpson had been ap pointed consulting engineer. A report from Campbell and Francis, two of the contractors for the pipes, stated that progress was being made intheir contract. The report said, that all the materials were completed for casting the pipes, and that 24 pipes , weighing 90 tons, had been already cast. The proceedings of the committee also comprised correspondence from the agents of land owners in the neighbourhood of Rivington. A letter was read (at the request of Mr. S. Holme) from. Mr. Crook, ill' a. LOCAL MEETINGS. THE 0 0 ~A T ER QUESTION.—PUBLIC MEETING. 'eg of i t l e"aY, a nu merous an d hi g hl y respec t a bl e meet kayo, inhabitants of Liverpool, convened by the in compliance with a requisition signed by Lliap e i . (48 ,400 persons. was held in the Sessions-house, of d e l a treet for the pur'nose of considering the propriety t(44 Wit h' the Rivingtori Pike scheme for supplying this The AI N‘ater, P l. c'eeed,• 4.l °n occupied the chair, and, in opening the el th e c l i ngs, said he should abstain from taking any part 44 co scuss i°n, but he must be understood as not being 4 3' r e rn ,Drornised, as regarded his own sentiments, by sPeake:Ntion which would be proposed by the various • he„s: the claimed for every speaker a fair and impel.- 'essol ri ng, and if he should fail in securing that he would ve th e . r. j . eeting. JEFFERY protAged the first resolution, ,foa ti eiu the others as well as the amendments, will Zke f °Ur advertising columns. After alluding to ;17 4 ;1tat".7. e early proceedings on the water question he and td havel' was distinctly understood that the Pike scheme the s q th e , the deliberate consideration of the authorities • bio,n, and should not be necessarily included in, 'Lilt, a , The bill was v i ewe d i n two di st i nct shapes; th bill for the purpose of laying the foundation on p i e ~pani e Council should proceed to purchase the old if - „''s; and, second, to provide for an increased sup- Ga'a r e r• s 'arY• There was a resolution on the books of 'l7'iatir. 10 n Society giving a deputation in London im- Natise,,' instructions to oppose the bill, unless certain Haase,, Were altered • but the Town-clerk stated that if lerce °P ,,_sed the bil the op osition otherwise added, '.that that the opp osition would be fatal. He n g e rnentcould be made between themselves — ` l /lot bpan een returned to Liverpool. These arrangements thath ueen made, and he asked the meeting if that were tliattk r each of faith ? (Cheers.) The speaker contended 4 ;41 Carst would be a million instead of half a million, ef 404 although they could easily calculate the cost s ecla t of pipes, they could not estimate so easily the ll° I,"lPensation. After commenting upon Mr.ooo Wa e es 's chancre of opinion as to the abundance unde r 'the town, he referred to the 1 4 ter 44° us charges fixed upon by the committee for For a house paying £BO, the yearly charge was f 1,t 4 9„? a house of £Bl, £2 16. Bd.; for a house of tlear r `i,•`‘ , £ 5 14s. 3d. ; for a house of £l6l, £4 16s. 7d. :mast B ) ,: e !rt and laughter.) Now, as a business man, he Lnat a document in which such anomalies could teUtl e 7 not undergone due revision at the hands of the ; . ', 4 Bid e ; e4 ,.'who said they had given to the question that • th e i ' 1 , 4 "0n Which so momentous a question demanded. t l e ttsB l. ol 4 ds• (Hear and applause.) After combatting ;les, r Clen that the tradesmen of the town did not pay ' 4) 461' 4 that their customers paid them, Mr. Jeffery Atim,ed amidst the loudest cheering. ' r I° RNT IriNcH senior, in seconding the motion, thefro), ° ti; tul former o'casions, till within the last year or bm e7 had chosen their Town Councillors because t hat p e ;: e tlged to this or that sect of religion, or to this or - "r in politics. But they had grown a little wiser. tesenwtelie determined, in future, to choose persons to re •4ettet• th e opinions of the people who were to pay the The (A.Pplause.) b ll4 . r esolutio n - having been put from the chair, .je defiVIRROSE L ACE rose to propose an amendment. Itigthxied the W a ter Committee, and stated, at great • t he s taken to test whether there was a . suffi jkost. of W ater in the red sandstone rock, and said th e . echieedblinent scientific men of the day gave it as their wade r ° Pinion that there was not a sufficiency of water ,wit„,tir feet. Bootle well bad been deepened 600 feet finding more water and if they were to continue Pa. 4 -", water from the red ' sandstone rock, they, would m cra,.." ° Put down a well whenever there was a large the e i —v of the inhabitants. and they would thereby incur . i they` fr ue r,eased expense of working, engines. &c., but if „Le i ti e,‘ the water from Rivington, they would be enabled 'oo,cr o PJ 8 00,000 at the same cost as they could supply 'lt t ." , with the addition only of the expense of the , concluded by proposing the first amendment. the t iENRY DANSON, in presenting himself to second tad arnendluent, was received with loud groans, hisses, sdh °th ,er marks of disapprobation. He said so very much this ;!,nad been cast on him for the part he had taken on teee t ,": .4 question, that he was not at all surprised at the liAp e r,,' l°4 he had met with. He was aware that when he ,teer i t'e.d there in the honest discharge of his duty, gentle •gught ask him why that same feeling did not actuate day inattending to his duties at the Council, on Wednes firth, t. That was a subject upon which it would not be tit4erto enter then, but he should be happy, at the right .ti eet , o to give every explanation to the Lime-street Ward tiv e t r .s; therefore he trusted on that occasion they would gre at '' l4 l an impartial hearing. He then proceeded at 1re" . ,„," length to speak of the decrease of the springs of the keti s i ti t t l wells and was frequently interrupted. His state -40,0 iat that was, perhaps, the last opportu nity he che er li have of addressing them was rece i ved wi▪ th much Ati v ;:ng, and he sat down after denying that he had any k„`e,Object in view in the course he had adopted. Are ss nOSERT BRYDRN showed how the water-rates op nitltlY bore upon tbe licensed victuallers. ttr e r e MAYOR then put the amendment, for whi▪ ch about W as • v e hands only were held up. The original motion hol d th en carried almost unanimously, only a . few hands rt e ,;!, held u p aga i ns t it. Th e resu lt was hailed by tre lrus cheering, which lasted for some time. 84 1 ," J. A. Pic.rox proposed the next resolution. After $41," the advocates of the Pike scheme credi for their tielf, i ntentions, and claiming the same credit for him fro" said he did not see why those who chose t.. 0 differ t t lo gi the late Water Committee, and to demand inquiry, It te l 'hl, be called fools and knaves, persons having no 'Vil le dge of the s ubject at all. Mr. had said, 0 4.' 3 ' want an in vestigation? there . has already been had b e They, had had such an investigation as he presumed 4 11c,,,en satisfactory to Mr. Lace's mind, but he must be h e ,...eu to say that the public were not satisfied. That Position of parties. Now, what kind of investi tio b ef all they had ? They had had, first, an investiga. the ore the Commissioners of Inquiry ; and what was as r e ,, Dn elusion they had come to ? They stated they had lo ks `eson to come to any other conclusion than that there the s ufficient supply of water under our feet. That w as kit t Ps t investigation. The second was before the Com tte e the House of Commons. How did the town ' 1 then ? (Hear.) The Town Council had determined A I t - ! ° eCute the bill for authorising the Rivington scheme. sid e ,,„ e4 number of persons, it seemed mistakenly so, con deN•cui that the Pike . scheme was only to be a sort of t „, er resort —that if it w to be on -.ea . stif4 .e enquiry and pract ical testing, found that hereafter, we hed not .114,1ent water in the sandstone, we had the bill in our the t° go elsewhere, enlarge our borders, and carry out ult , t ,., e ! 'enie that offered. (Hear.) With regard to the. thre":"gations before the House of Commons, there were ~*llO- f , Parties concerned in it. The Water Committee, etr e `right or wrong) had the bill to carry, went to Par tqnt to effect that object, and well the Town-clerk Ao: 1 in obtaining it. The cost he would say nothing s uch it might be £20,000 or £30,000. Now, under t i rrk'''eurnstances, what kind of evidence did the Town- No t equire ? Did he want the evidence of impartial wh o No : the kind of witnesses he wanted were men lo ll ,reuld take one side of the question, and conscien- N Y Another because they had never looked at the othfr 'l T 'lnother of the parties who had a locus stanch in • ""Aos, hPlise of Commons were all the landowners and ‘Qty—acturers about Rivington Pike • he might say that Niti,ere lik e " pikes" waiting for plunder. They were Zll4 l O for compensation for this and that, in every con 'assalSShae. After alluding to the statement that there kn t( tes tie tin the water ' dto the q ua ntity of water said to . 1 ... , him, of incalculable supplies of water having just been found within the margin of the borough. He stated that the support which he had given to the Pike scheme re garded that scheme as an auxiliary, if it were required, and showed the necessity of the caution, nevertheless, given lrst April, to prevent the unnecessary expenditu - e of vast sums t,f ihon e y, ;lode, the r s zt had been obtained. ue proceeded to comment on some of the clauses of the act, which he declared the worst specimen of legislatiori which the " wisdom" of Parliament had ever perpetrated. Mr. PILCHER seconded the resolution. Mr. Wm. EARLE now rose to address the meeting, and was received with much hissing and other marks of dis approbation. After they had subsided, he proceeded to say that when the act of parliament was obtained upon which Mr. Smith had commented in a manner which the meeting might call humourovs, but which he called great ignorance. (Great hissing and groans, which lasted for some time, and cries of " Sit da'w'n l") Mr. HAIGH.—I beg to rise to order. Ido not think it is decent for eny one to offer such terra's of opprobrium to any gentleman before a meeting over which the mayor is presiding, and 1 submit it to the mayor whether he will allow such observations to proceed. The MAYOR.—Mr. Earle has consented to withdraw the offensive term. Mr. EARLE.--I merely wished to say that Mr. Smith had treated the subject in a manner which showed that he did not understand it. tCries of " Oh! oh !") lie did not think that the proceedings of that day would re dound much to the credit of the ratepayers, of Liver pool. (Great uproar.) Mr. Earle then went on to con demn the opposition which had been offered by the rate payers, but was listened to with much impatience. After some further remarks of a personal nature, Mr. Earle began to refer to the statement which had appeared in the Mercury against himself and other members of the late Water Committee, observing that he would refer to Mr. Smith a little more, and endeavour to transfer to him a little of the odium which he had thrown upon his (Mr. Earle's) friend, and on their excellent friend Mr. Rath bone. Who could accuse him of any want of patience ? He had gone through two years of the eternal twaddle of the Mercury. (Laughter.) Mr. Smith bad given them some choice extracts from the act of parliament, and he (Mr. Earle) would venture to give them some ex tracts from that paper. (Hear.) After reading some extracts, in which the Pike scheme was spoken of favour ably, he asked if there was ever anything so contemptible? (Laughter.) He wondered they could laugh at it. From the commencement of the proceedings on the water busi ness, to April 7, 1848, he challenged any gentleman to find a word against the scheme in the Liverpool Mercury. On the contrary, every thing in its favour was given with a high colouring. (Hisses, and great interruption.) The C FIAIRAaN 'was here appealed to as to whether Mr. Earle was in order, when he replied that he thuught Mr. Earle was as much within the question as any speaker that had gone before. It was in all respects a case analo gous to that of Mr. Hol'ne who had been accused of changing his opinion. Mr. Smith was charged with a similar change of opinion, and Mr. Earle was perfectly in order. Mr. EARLE then continued. He contended that it was in April that the National Confederation laid the ground work of the opposition to the Pike scheme, which was followed up by the editors of the Mercury. The Con federation pulled the strings and the Mercury answerecUo them. (Hear, hear, and - laughter.) From that time to the present there had been scarcely anything but abuse of the Water Committee and the Pike scheme. There had been letters inserted for and against. He (Mr. Earle) did not deny that ; but if they would look at the paper it would be found that the remarks showed the bias of the editor's mind was against the water scheme. In one paper there was that story about the Manchester Water-works which had been so fully and ably answered by other gentlemen. (Cries of " Speak out ?") Mr. Earle : " I will if I can, but it is a difficult thing to speak to such scrubfire people as I see before me." (Hear.) He then quoted a paragraph from a paper of November last, wherein it was stated that the system pursued for some time back at the waterworks had been to withhold the supply from the inhabitants. It was well known that everything of that kind was false, and he would be glad to know if Mr. Smith could have a high respect for his character if he thought him capable of doing a thing of that kind. He would ask him that, and that was one of the remarks of which he had to complain. Mr. SMITH.-1 am here to explain. (Applause.) Mr. EARLE.—(pointing to the witness-box where Mr. Smith was sitting)—That is a witness-box, and every man coming there does so because he thinks he has some most important information to give. Mr. Smith has plaCed himself in that box because he considers himself superior. I have seen that gentleman act the Roman senator. (Laughter, and cries of " Shame, shame.") The MAYOR called Mr. Earle to order. Mr. EARLE said he was merely going to pass a compli ment. (Loud laughter.) He had shown up Mr. Smith pretty well he hoped, and if he were them he would be very careful how he placed any faith in Jack in the box again. (Roars of laughter.) He conceived that by passing the proposed resolution they would exonerate certain gentlemen from paymentof a sum of money, and make themselves liable for that which Mr. Booker, Mr. Harbord, and others were now responsible for. ( " Yes, yes.") He urged them not to do so, as if they did, they would, as men of business, be guilty of an act of folly. (Laughter.) Mr. Councillor PARKER briefly addressed the meeting. Mr. W. RATKBONE said, that after forty years of pub lic service in the cause of his fellow-townsmen, he had a right to ask of Mr. John Smith why he puts in the Mer cury " that the late water committee had been parties to one of the grossest jobs that ever was perpetrated," and he uppeLled to him whether any newsvender, I not call it the press, had a right to use in reference to one who was going down to his grave, such language as that. He valued their good opinion as much as any man, and felt pleased at the manner in which his services had, on various occasions, been acknowledged, but he would never be so base as to be influenced, when he knew he was justified in the course he took, by that self-inflated man who sat before the desk. (Mr. Smith.) (Hear, hear, and cries of " Shame.") [The Mayor here interfered ; and after speaking a word_ or two to Mr. Rathbone, he consented to withdraw the expression he had made use of in reference to Mr. Smith.] Mr. JOHN SMITH rose to read some of the observations made by Mr. Earle and Mr. Rathbone. It was rather strange that Mr. Earle always thought the Mercury a good paper so long as it agreed with him in his views, but no sooner did it oppose him than he denounced him in the terms he had done that day. (Hear, hear, and laugh ter.) He (Mr. Smith) had never cast stones at any one, but when he was assailed he would defend himself. The extracts which Mr. Earle had read from the Mercury could be readily justified. Those sentiments were ex pressed when the bill was believed to be a good one, from the opinion expressed by others, and before its provisions had been inquired into. It was at that time understood to be merely accessary, and its provisions only to be acted upon in case the present sources of supply were proved to be inadequate. The CHAIRMAN put the resolution, which was carried by an overwhelming majority, amidst loud applause. solicitor to the Chorley Waterworks Comiany, complain ing of the Liverpool Corporation having violated the con tract which.they had entered into. The letter stated that the company, in consequence of surrendering their water rights to the Corporation, and for issuing to the company the specified supplies from the Rivington reservoir, had actually purchased from Mr. Crosse the additional land required for filter beds, and to have them finished at a cost of £lBOO. This would have been unnecessary under their plan t and formed no part of it. Besides this, a tunnel would have io firmed from the reservoir at Chorley to Anglesark, at a cost of £2OOO. The 41600, . intended in part to meet these charges, which was to have been paid in Jannary 1848, had not been received. The writer concluded by saying, " The company protests against the assumption that a change in the members of the Common Council justifies their breaking through the positive engagements of their predecessors. We should have been ashamed to justify such a breach of contract on our part by pleading a new election of directors ; and I am reluctantly obliged to add, that unless the arrange ment with the Chorley company be promptly completed, in its original spirit and terms, it will be difficult here after to place implicit confidence in what has hitherto not been questioned—the fair dealing and honour of the Li verpool Corporation."—A letter from Mr. Brownlow, solicitor for certain landowners in the neighbourhood of Rivington, stated that unless the works were at once pro ceeded with, proceedings would immediately be taken against the Liverpool Town Council. Several other let ters and communications in connexion with the Riving ton works were read.—The committee recommended that Mr. Simpson be instructed to enter into a general exami nation of the water supply to Liverpool, including the arrangements in connexion with the Rivington project; and that he be also instructed to institute an investiga tion into the capabilities of the red sandstone and wells in the neighbourhood of Liverpool. The proceedings, which were exceedingly voluminous, included many other particulars, amongst them the financial position of the Water Committee, as drawn up by Mr. Harbord, from which it appeared that for the current year the pro bable expenditure would be in excess of the receipts.— Mr. Bennett moved, and Mr. Wagstaff seconded, the confirmation of the proceedings.—A long discussion took place, in which Messrs. G. H. Lawrence, Parker, Tinne, S. Holme, Harbord, Jas. Holme, and Cooper, took part. —Mr. S. Holme, in a speech of some duration, vindicated Mr. Hawksley from the observations.in reference to him, which had been made by Mr. Bennett. Mr. Holme then referred at length to the contracts for piping, &c., in connexion with the Rivington works, an d s t a t e d hi s be lief that if they were not carried out the consequence would eventually be an expense to the Corporation of several thousand pounds.—Mr. Bennett replied, and stated, in answer to Mr. Tinne and Mr. S. Holme,• that there was no wish on the part of the present Water Com mittee to repudiate the contracts already entered into. The committee, on the other hand, had endeavoured to facilitate the delivery of the pipes, in their instructions to Mr. Hawksley ; but they, after all, had found a great difficulty in getting them - delivered. On a former occa sion Mr. Nicol had said that 2,000 tons were ready for delivery, but the committee had now ascertained that not more than 90 tons were cast.—The proceedings of the committee were then confirmed.—A letter from Mr. Scott, in answer to the call made upon him to proceed with his defence to the charges made against him before the committee of inquiry, was read. It contained a re fusal to proceed with his defence before the committee as now constituted; and requesting that if he was to go on with his defence, engineers who had had no connexion with the works should be called in.—After some discus sion, Mr. Bennett admitted that the Water Commitee had come to the conclusion to recommend to the Council Mr. Scott's discharge, in consequence of the insulting letter made use of by him.—Upon the motion of Mr. G. H. Lawrence, the letter was referred to the favourable consideration of the Water Committee. After some other business, the Council broke up at a quarter before five o'clock. THE ROSCOE CLUB One of the prominent vehicles employed by this insti tution for conveying instruction and amusement to its members, is the Discussion Society. This branch of the club meet periodically in a large and elegant room in the upper part of the premises. when a paper is read by some one of the members, the subject of which is afterwards discussed generally. One of these conversaziones was held last Friday evening, at which a large number of members were present. it had been arranged prior to the meeting that Dr. Hume should preside on the occa sion, an arrangement to which the learned doctor ac ceded ; he was, however, prevented attending in time to open the proceedings, and consequently Mr. Esdaile, a gentleman who has frequently presided on former occa sions, was requested to take the chair. Dr. Hume sub sequently came into the room, and entered cordially into the spirit of the evening's business. The paper perused was one on the " Minor Poets of the Present Day," by Mr. W. F. BLOXAM. It went, to shew that a vast amount of poetry was to be found float ing through the periodical literature of the day, and that this poetry oftentimes possessed in an eminent degfee all the essentials of true poetry, although traced by unknown hands, and, from the ephemeral nature of the channels which conveyed it to the world, most likely doomed to neglect and an early tomb. The value of verses of merit appearing before the public in the way spoken of was inferred from the fact, that some of the productions of our most eminent poets were but the elaborations of un pretending attempts suggested by trivial circumstances, and intended only for the passing moment. The " Rape of the Lock," and Thomson's " Castle 'of Indolence, were given as instances of what might possibly be the result of an unpremeditated and unpretending attempt; the former having been suggested by the desire, on the part of the author, to cement a difference existing be tween two families,—and the latter extending out of a brief comnosition suggested by a lady reclining on a sofa. The first illustration had been taken from some periodical, and consequently its author was unknown: it was entitled " A Voice from Nature." A production of Mr. Murray's followed ; the subject was Lady Godiva's famed ride through Coventry, which.natural ..yn eßgooLUti rererence to the production of T l ennyson, who was justly appreci ated as a poet; and a resemblance, not to the latter's disadvantage, was indicated in the pupil's production. Mr. Bloxam here incidentally touched on the depraved taste that led the public to patronise those exhibitions known as Poses Plastiques, whose enormity was aggra vated by the pretence that they served to inculcate a cor rect appreciation of all that is beautiful and artistic. In corroboration of his views, Mr. B. referred to a notice on this subject in the Athenwum, which journal excuses it self from noticing them, from a consideration that such would be the very means to perpetuate their success, as giving them the plea of persecution. Reverting to his subject, the le'turer read some touching lines, entitled " Anacreon's Grave," the singularity of which was that they were the production of a madman, an inmate of the asylum under the superintendence of Dr. Crighton, who conducts a periodical entitled the " New Moon," to which the hapless inmates contribute. " The Heart's Lesson," from the Manchester Examiner, followed, affording the reader an opportunity of passing a high eulogium on the conductors of this paper. In alluding to the Irish melo dies the name of Moore stood first, and the unfortunate -Gavan Duffy was classed among that description of poets on which the paper professed to treat. Some verses by a Catholic priest, entitled " The Bells of Shandon," were read. Shandon is a small village on the banks of the Lee, a river flowing near Cork. Barry Cornwall, Dr. Mackay; and Lytton Bulwer, were referred to. In speaking of the latter, a remarkable instance of his precocity of g e n i us was adduced in the fact of his having composed verses when no more than six years old. Mr. Bloxam went on to inquire what were the characteristics of the men whose names had been brought forward, and he was of opinion that in their poetic productions shone forth all the essen tials observable in the writings of the great poets. Some encomiums were paid to the "truthfulness" of modern poetry, and the contributions in Punch were instanced, amongst them those of " Jacob Omnium." The earnest ness displayed by Mr. Cobden in his pursuit of the great measure which he had obtained was not greater than that evinced by Ebenezer Elliott ; nor is Lord Ashley more earnest in seeking out the destitute, and dragging them within the sphere of knowledge and industry, than was Hood when he penned the " Song of the Shirt." The paper being read, Mr. Mott proposed a yote of thanks to the author, the proposition was seconded and iiiried with unanimity and spirit. Mr. BOULT thought that though Mr. Bloxham had entered fully into the subject, it was, one of so diffuse a nature that it had not been exhausted, and probably the writer might be induced to bring - out a supplement to his Tor men innanitant per nay, ne saict mations .obfig° aZ had been attributed in speech and writing to those ey ,;'ed for inquiry. It was said it was not inquiry l'tj; an ted ;—that they wanted to burke and altogether I, r .°w th Rivington scheme. Now, personalty, he 1 I f e t.en) denied the imputation. He said, let us have 1; 3 4 % e au', free and impartial inquiry, and cared v n no . t Otqii .!,'sult—whether water was brought fro . m d ß, i g t;',1114 be or elsewhere, he, as a humhle iv l idual, tr ',e; i,„u,e satisfied. The Pike scheme might be a good CketZ,G we would not have it on compulsion. He re ., i i `it a story told of a good lady who wished to 4 11, ' d i. eon's attention from the gay world. She said,— , and son, don't mix in gay society : I have done imoti le ' r u v seen the folly of it." He answered,—" Well, 1 1 1 ) 14 4 ,2 A Wish to see the fol of it too." (Laughter and ,'e.) Now, the gentlemen on the other side with , 11 4 :v v ' t a la w e ethe folly of the views that others held—they ki",dst,„ 'ony_of attempting to get water out of the red Y of ge • Well, we might answer, allow us to see the e r at tempting it. (Laughter and applause.) 14.` 401 .1A.s Avisort seconded the resolution, and to 0 ( ,thought the Water Bill, considering that one as b t "c 133 clauses were compensation clauses . , ought " A bill of pains and penalties against the tlif li CS '3 . l. Corporation." (Laughter and applause.) AidUEL HOLME, in an eloquent speech, defended gth . scheme and the late Water Committee . at great lie admitted he had changed his opinion as to . lt.'lici e Tt i tY of water under the town of Liverpool, and ii t 'p l at o - ri unnself for so doing. As to the cost of the works, he had himself looked over the details I . ,, 4ll nates, and_he pledged his honour as a trades vs,"°wing something of such estimates, that if the qq'iofetrno-inorrow to be advertised we should find a et ti iv ow riway contractors of the highest respectability tVaate execute the work at twenty per cent below the Was He alluded to the general water act, and said k . " in ; 9 a clause in it preventing them from sinking a neighbourhood without giving compensation A0(44. 411 3 7 deprived of water. (Hear, hear.) If the 40, e„, ic 'n went to West Derby or elsewhere to sink lo l tll;,, er j individual whose private well might be af- V i4 rlg that proceeding would have a right to an action kt e tlee t vi c l t atli e S against the corporation.. Mr. .Holme then from the length into the question, sheaving many highly respectable and impartial gentle- Abpsufficient water was not obtainable under the N' t 4 b e hat that abundance of the purest and softest water rp) 4 ‘t Alv,, l 'c'eured by the proposed scheme. 4 3' t i, 4 hil e ,ernla/1 COOPER seconded the amendment, and that the inhabitants would save considerably • Vt't t he Rivington water. They would have less to 44ter and it would be more abundant and pure : 1 11 4 t: h l'Ilt 1 1 : 143 ,,,..ean replied to one or two questions which p art r. S. Holme, and then stated as a fact that ‘,`kriOt r "Zen sold the water-.works to the Corporation - `r a , s i lleri e F tv ed their bonds in accordance with the Act of 1 1 11 1 ',A,,,.' and that they would have to go to Chancery k 4eati .l ; l ° . ,to get themselves . righted. °,litinin,mment and original motion were then put to tit 411%,, wi t h' when the original motion was carried unani )i 404 acclamation. , t lt n i• N '„SuiTH proposed the third resolution. The ;,Leis resolution, Mr. Smith observed, would . ppott to the present determination of the tOe t eith 1 . which that body had a right to expect. tatid lireplied to many of the arguments of Mr. o 14„ 1 '4 4 tiieti r • S. Holnle, and reminded the meeting f_ 1 / 4 A tL t lsp ra - t lq opinions of scientific men in the case of s chemical works, the steam navigation of " B ‘C.l and adduced evidence, just handed to Mr. BLOXHAM, in returning thanks for the honour which had just been shewn to him, agreed that he had by no means exhausted his subject, which he promised to return to on a future occasion. At this stage of the proceedings, in accordance with the usual custom, coffee and tea were introduced, and the company simultaneously with the appearance of these revivifying beverages, sank the form of meeting, and entered into social discussion on topics having reference to the subject propounded to them on the paper which had been read. THE LIVERPOOL CHESS CLUB.—The tenth annual meeting of this intellectual society was held on Wednes day evening, at the Adelphi Hotel. Owing to the Birken head, and the Chatham Society soiree, happening on the same evening, the attendance was not very large. Mr. Mongredien being absent, Mr. G. S. Spreckley, the se cretary of the Liverpool Club, occupied the chair, sup ported in the vice-chair by Mr. Schwabe. After the re past, the Chairman proposed " Prosperity and permanence to the Club," which he introduced in a very happy man ner. After alluding to political events on the continent, which had been too exciting to allow much time for chess, he said that the challenge from the Roscoe Club had led to Monday (yesterday) being appointed for a match to be played, in which he was to give the odds of pawn and move to their playing committee. This was the twelfth year of the society, and he entertained no fear of its permanence. It was encouraging to observe that some of the new members showed a talent for the game that promised soon to place them above many of their veterans, unless these derived fresh vigour from emulation. As regarded the prosperity of pounds, shillings, and pence, they had no reason to complain. Their numbers might vary from year to year, and their revenue fluctuate with their num. hers • but their Chancellor of the Exchequer, who now faced him, had hitherto so arranged his budget that he had avoided the necessity of contracting loans. The toast was drunk with enthusiasm. A number of other appropriate toasts, conveyed in complimentary terms, followed, and were ably responded to. These included " The President of the club ; " " Mr. Howard Staunton," the celebrated English player ; " Mr. Spreckley ; " " The Vice-Chairman ;" The Liverpool Press ;" " Mr. Perigal and the London Chess Club ;" The Visiters ;" "The Ladies," &c. Between the speeches the company were enlivened by songs. it was not until a late hour that the room presented the appearance of 41 - banquet-hall deserted TITHE REDEMPTION TRUST. Ido according as he is disposed in his heart unto the hear.) He traced the history of the laws, a n d exp l a i ne d A meeting of the Liverpool Branch A ssoc i a ti on , i n aid Lord." He felt assured, at the same time, that as there their operation. As our commerce spreads, and our of the Tithe Redemption Trust, was held, on Wednesday we- • •d• . stil l liad attacked ' the principles on which they were -a a growing feeling in the minds of many, amounting colonies increase, he admitted they would need m d'fi igna on, at th e thought of . _ . ; there were never an y . statesmen till the present o i ca.. afternoon, in the Savings Bank, Bold-street. After the almost . 4( ' in .. hhad been a committed m th m e I m tt e a r d ci l l a es t s m an a d a na tio a n a s who hberi t e i s which reading of the appointed prayer, by the Rev. Mr. Pollock, shameless re.. . , • • a n dbased. -nues set apart for religious chart -e. In the late debate there was not a single member The Venerable Archdeacon BROOKS stated that the past upon the rev wit! , an increasing feeling of un- of the House of Commons who had touched on the sub object of the meeting was to take advantage of the visit table purposes, so there"' of the noble president of the trust to Liverpool, by giv a easiness in the breasts e. ect h many wealthy individuals j ,x o showed that he understood it. [Laughter and ing members an opportnnity of obtaining any further in- amongst the impropriators thOlsplves, which rendered applause.) They h a d con f use d th e navigation laws with formation of the details than was afforded them at the them not only willing but anxious to exchange such spe- the revenue law s o f th e country, and w i th the registry act time when the branch association wa s fi rs t f orme d ; b ut , ci es o f pro p er ty f or f ar l ess th an an eqw 7 o alert. Though _f this countr y,—thr ee t o t a lly di st i nct thi ngs. ( Applause.) before requesting from Lord John Manners the favour of they might not themselves be personally cha: :erible with I f with the repeal of the navigation laws other countries those explanations to which he referred, he would call any guilt as holders of such possessions, inasmuch :.:4 they didnot reduce their tariff upon our goo d s , we w o u ld b e upon the rev. secretary to speak to the general o bj ec t s had bee n p urc h a sed or handed down from generation it, clieek-rnated at every turn. There w a s a c u nn in g it em i n 4. and principles of the trust. generatio n u n d er the sanction of law, yet they felt that ,he pregent proposition. Mr. Labouchere said care would The Rev. WILLIAM POLLOCK said that his brother See- they were occupying sites, and reaping fields, which it be taken that the Queen in Council should have the pri retary, Dr. Trench, and he had ventured to convene this were better far that no secular proprietor should presume vilege of retaliating upon the countries who did not reci meeting, both because they felt that it was impossible to 'to call his own. Yes, he maintained, lovely as were some procate with as. But (continued Mr. Chapman) will y ou sustain public interest. in any object, however excellent, of those sites, and prolific as were some of those fields, trust the present members ?•--men who are now subsi s ti ng without reporting progress, from time to time,' to its sup- they could not be viewed with entire complacency by their upon the vile wages of political prostitution. Will you porters, and also especially because they believ e d that th e y earnest and right minded possessors, seetat that "sacrilege" trust them, or their schoolmasters ? [A. voice, " the were bound to take advantage, for this purpose, of the was written upon them all in character& of fire. Combining, Anti-Corn-law League. ' T ] No ; their first schoolarasters presence of the noble chairman of the Tithe Redemption then, these two facts, or rather theseevraclasses of feeling were the gentlemen who got into the Board of Trade. Trust, Lord John Manners, in Liverpool. It would be —the readiness of some to contribute to the restoration And who were those gentlemen ? Gentlemen who, as remembered that, at their previous meeting, certain diffi- of church property, and the anxiety of others to rid them- merchants and tradesmen, could not conduct their own culties had been started with regard to their general under- selves of it, even at a considerable sacrifice—lie could not business rightly ; they were all of them bankrupts taking,- and several inquiries made concerning it; and that but see reason to hope that much- might hereafter be ac- or insolvents. One of them, Mr. Porter, was, he be he (Mr. P.) and others had then endeavoured to reply cotnplished by comparatively small, but gradualfrincreas. lieved, a respectable gentleman, and he should not say according to their ability. But although their answers ing means. much of him. But there was Mr. Macgregor, the in appeafed- to have given general satisfaction, still he was The resolution was carried unanimously. structor of Sir Robert Peel. He was well known in very happy to be able to refer any gentleman who might The thanks of the meeting to Lord John Manners were Liverpool. After pursuing his studies a t Prince Ed_ still desire further information to Lord John Manners, then proposed, in appropriate speeches by the Rev. ef e . ward Island, he had become a shipbuilder, and was whose position in the Trust naturally made him acquainted Pollock, seconded by the Rev. Mr. Bold, and unanimously unsuccessful in that pursuit. Then he w r ot e a book with all its details, and whose head and heart were alike carried. - upon Protection, and came over to Liverpool and full of its objects, its principles, and its operations. Lord JOHN MANNERS said he did not feel in the least started as a merchant. In Liverpool he did net remain Before sitting down, he (Mr. P.) would only further ob- worthy of the compliment that had been paid him, which over twelve months till he was again bankrupt - and serve that having bestowed a great deal of anxious thought indeed was due, as he had previously explained, to Mr. there were many living at the present day who could tell on the subject of the Trust, both before and since their Malet alone; but he would take the opportunity the en- us a tale that would not redound much to his credit. last meeting, he was bound to-say that the more he con- merited kindness of the meeting had afforded him to refer (Applause.) It was sufficient for him to say that he had sidered it, the more it commended itself to his conscience to the indirect beneficial influence which the society would failed and paid one penny-halfpenny in the pound.— and his judgment; and the more he felt it to be entitled possibly exercise on the conduct of those tithe holders (Laughter and loud applause.) But be did worse. He to the cordial confidence and support of all true church- who might be unable or unwilling to join in their opera- was guilty of a transaction in this place which, had it men. Was it a fact that in above 4,660 parishes, property tions. The responsibility which weighed upon them as come before the present Commissioners- of Bonkroptcy, amounting to more than one million and a half yearly holders of such property might thus be brought home to would, he was satisfied, have rendered him liable to a had been alienated from the church, to whose service'it their convictions, and the church, school, or almshouse severe reprimand ; and he questioned mach whether the had been consecrated by the piety of our forefathers ? receive an increased support in this manner. Lord John commissioners would not have carried out the law to its. Then it was a holy purpose to endeavour to restore again concluded by proposing the thanks of the meeting to the very utmost extent. (Laught er an d applause.) NoW, it to the treasury of God, what, he could not help saying, Venerable Archdeacon for his kindness in presiding over was to such men as these that we had entrusted our legise had been sacrilegiously abstracted from it, Was it the the meeting, and the ability with which he directed the lation• There was another gentleman, a hatter, his name case that there existed on all sides the most fearful spirt- proceedings. There was not a gentleman present, nor was Wilson,latelyeditoroftheEconomise who nowreceived teal destitution ; and that we were compelled to resort one in Liverpool, he felt convinced, who did not wish £ 1 2,00 or £15,00 a year, as secretary to the Board of for its relief to the agencies of such societies as the Church their respected rector a long and extended career of use- Control. He had compounded with his creditors at 10s. Pastoral Aid Society, and the Additional Curates Society, fulness in that sphere of action which he had for so many in the Pound, and had ruined many poor people i n Stock not to speak of the expedients adopted by the Ecclesiasti. years filled with such benefit to the church, and such Port and elsewhere. (Laughter and applause.) As to cal Commissioners, and a vast amount of private effort. honour to himself. Cobden, he would not allude to him, as the meeting knew And yet it was confessed that after all the resources Mr. Ceseeeeme said he had much pleasure in second- him sufficiently already, as a ruined calico printer of the church were utterly inadequate to the supply of the , ing the vote of thanks to their venerable chairman, for and pensioned aeitator. Mr. Chapman continued his demands upon her ministrations. Then surely every one whom he, in common with all other inhabitants of Liver- remarks on the Navigation Laws, and asked if we were to must see that the remedy, which was at once the most pool, entertained the highest respect. be taxed to k ee p u p a navy • to protect the shipping of natural and effective, would be found in the rest ora ti on t o The Venerable the ARCHDEACON expressed, in very foreigners, for that he said was an office we performed at the church of that property, by the loss of which she had touchin g language, his a ck n o w l e d gmen t o f th e comp li- p resen t. If the Queen sanctioned the rep eal of the Na become thus impoverished, and unequal to the discharge ment which had been paid to him. He s a id h e h a d vigation L aws , h e h a d no hesitation in saying that it of the obligations which devolved upon her. On this always great pleasure in presiding over any meeting in would be as fraught with eviland disaster to her family as ground alone he felt himself hound to forward the obj ec t s w hich the high and holy interests of the church w e r e was the act of Charles th e Fi rst , when he sacrificed his of the Tithe Redemption Trust by every means in his concerned, *and more especially on those occasions where minister and aigned the death warrant of Strafford. It power. But it had other claims on his support, in the men of all opinions met together and consented in a corn- had long been his opinion that the days we were in were excellency of its principles and arrangements. It was mon movement. For himself, he was quite sure that, if somewhat analagous ,to those of Charles the First. At impossible, for instance, that they, could be promoting the they would but meet more frequently, they would find that time Republicanism appeared under the guise of ends of - the vendor of tithes, inasmuch as it was not that a great many of their supposed divisions would vanish, Puritanism ; now it appears under the guise of free-trade. intended to offer in any instance the full market price, but and that after all there were few differences among them. (Hear, and applause.) There could not be a doubt (Mr. simply to take advantage of such cases as presented, The meeting then separated, many clergymen and gen- Chapman said) that the object of Cobden was to bring whether from the scruples of the tithe-holder, or other tlemen having become additional subscribers to the asso- ruin on class after class, to unnationalise this country, circumstances, peculiar facilities of redemption. It was ciation. Among the gentlemen present, we observed the and to break the people's _spirits, so that at last they equally impossible that their proceedings co u ld ass i s t . th e Lord John Manners, Archdeacon Brooks, Rector Campbell, . would.be so discontent e d an d m i sera bl e , t h at t h ey would selfishinterests of the patron, by increasing the value of the rectors of West Derby and Walton, the Rev. Messrs. be indifferent to what takes place ; and the consequence the advowson, because in all cases of private patronage an Warre, Marshall, Cowan, Cyrus Morrell, Grier, Wray ? would be civil war, anarchy, and the destruction of every equivalent must be subscribed by the patron before the Pain, Pollock, Nolan, Bold, Jones, Bowman, Power, thing that we hold dear ! (Applause.) If th e N av i ga ti o n trust could interfere for the augmentation of the livi ng ? Hassall, Campbell, Martin, Burton, Brancker. Carpenter, Laws were repealed, the workhouse was staring us in the Again, if the benefice to which tithes were to be restored Higgins, Slater, Ould, and Lawrence ; as, also, Dr. face. Mr. Chapman concluded by calling on the meeting was already sufficiently endowed, then the recovered tithes M`Naught, Dr. Trench, and Messrs. Brercton, Tobin, to back the House of Lords. would not be given to the mother church, but to such new -Donison, Castellain, Molyneux, Thomas Bold, Naylor, Mr. FISHER explained that while we were professing to district churches as might have arisen in the parish, and Edward Banner, Slater, &c., &c. act on the principles of free trade, we were doing quite stand in need of aid. This case was provided for in their the reverse, as the goods from Cuba in British ships were regulations, the consent of the bishop being obtained ; THE NAVIGATION LAWS. made to pay nearly double those brought in foreign ships. so that they would be assisting in proper cases in the A meeting of the Toxteth Park branch of the Liverpool The free-trade reciprocity was all on one side. He might popular object of a better distribution of church property. Constitutional Association was held on Friday night, ,at also state that the Americans had come to the determine- And lastly, it was wholly impossible that the operations the Toxteth-hall, for the purpose, as stated in the pia- tion that all the railway iron •which they required should of the trust could be abused for party purposes. Of this card, of organizing a defence of the Navigation Laws, not be carried in any 'but British bottoms. He argued the names of those constituting the board ought to be a and strengthening the hands of such of the legislature as that free trade was synonymous with low wages, and was sufficient guarantee, representing as they did, every variety are opposed to so destructive and anti-British a measure highly prejudicial to all classes, more especially to the of opinion entertained by churchmen. But further they as the repeal of those laws. The room was filled to over- Poor man. • did not seek to recover tithes for Mr. A. or Mr. 8., the flowing, there being about five hundred persons present. Mr. BUCKLEY JONES, in proposing a vote of thanks to high churchman or low churchman. It was for the advan- R. L. JONES, Esq., was called to the chair. the chairman, balled attention to tl tage of the parish, not for that of the individual incum bent, whatever his opinions might be, that their efforts were undertaken ; while they stripped - themselves at the same time of all patronage, that fruitful source of party strife, For himself, he (Mr. P.) felt persuaded that the present movement, so far from increasing their divisions, might rather do much toward healing them, presenting, as it did in his mind, a most felicitous opportunity for combining the energies and uniting the hearts of church men. He could not but hope also that the very agitation of the question of tithe redemption might produce very valuable results in the public mind Lord JOHN MANNERS said that, after Mr. Pollock's lucid statement, he had little to add, more especially as Mr. Malet's letter to Lord Lyttleton, a packet of which had just arrived and was in the room, would give all the information he possessed in a clear and intelligible shape. However, he should be most happy to reply to any ques tions that might be put to him, to the hest of his ability. It might interest some present to know that it was owing, under God, to the persevering exertions of one man, Mr. Meet, that the society had been enabled, from the smallest and apparently most hopeless beginning, to assume its present more encouraging form. (Hear, hear.) He had the pleasure of laying before the meeting a copy of the Bishop of Chichester's official approbation of their dispo sition of the recovered tithes in the parish of Cuckfield,, and he hoped, before long, that a second successful in stance, that of Skenforth, in the diocese of Llandaff, might be appealed to by them. The general facts which had called this trust into existence were patent and noto rious. On the one hand was an admitted and appalling amount or spiritual deatitutloni in the other, tithes; sacred property, devoted to meet those wants, alienated from 4,660 parishes, to the amount of more than £1,300,000 per annum. (Hear.) But the very mention of this enor mous sum would show how hopeless would be the attempt to purchase, even with any considerable self-sacrifice on the part of the impropriators, those tithes. With a view, therefore, of overcoming this obstacle, a plan of life in surance had been proposed, under the direction of the board in London, by which the capital of the trust might be preserved ; he would invite the attention of the prac tical gentlemen he saw before him to this proposal, and he hoped it might, with their assistance, be satisfactorily arranged and successfully worked. Dr. Trench had put into his hand a return which showed thirty parishes in the county of Lancaster from which tithes had been alienated —thus offering a large local field of exertion to the Branch Association, which he trusted they would occupy, There was one other point, already admirably touched upon by Mr. Pollock, on which he wished to say a word—the ab sence of all party or sectional bias in the operations of the trust, which thus afforded a neutral ground on which all churchmen might cordially co-operate together to diminish the spiritual destitution wbich all alike deplored. A conversation ensued, in which the Rector of Walton and the Rev. Messrs. Jones, Nolan, and others, took a part. We also observed Messrs. J. A. Tobin, W. Fisher, H. G. Harbord, 11. C. Chapman, J. Naylor. F. Clint, T. Wagstaff, W. B. Jones, J. Betteley, T. W. Gladstone, J. Harrison, W. Short , Huntington, Jordan, R. Ellison, Batten, Croston, Worrell, &c. The CHAIRMAN, in opening the business of the meet ing, congratulated the inhabitants of North and South Toxteth upon the fact of their having come forward in such numbers to express their opinions on the question of the proposed repeal of the Navigation Laws. Mr. INMAN having read the placard convening the meeting, the Chairman called upon Mr. Fisher to propose the first resolution. Mr. WILLIAM FISHER moved the first resolution in a very eloquent speech. The resolutions will be found in our advertising columns.] There was no doubt, he said, that any material alteration in the navigation laws must be of serious consequence to the working classes of this country. Capitalists might find ships either at home or. abroad, but the labourer could find employment only at home. To illustrate the position he wished to assume, he supposed a ship of 500 tons, built in Liverpool, worth at least £lO,OOO. Before ever a sail had been set to the ship, £lO,OOO had bi'eu ell - toted hmongst the workmen and tradesmen of this country. If the law should sanction the capitalists of this country going to a foreign port to obtain that £lO,OOO worth of labour, it would be so much lost, not only to the British mechanic, but to the various classes dependent on them for supp or t. (A - ause.) I • • -. p, ,t was a mistake to suppose that the present was a mere carpenter's question : the labour commenced much earlier than was suspected. Before a nail could be driven, it must be made—the ore dug for—and by many processes prepared. So with the wood and other mate rials employed. By looking at the subject in this light, we would see of what vast importance the manufacture of ships was to the people of this country. (Applause.) God knows, the speaker said, that the wages a labourer now had, enabled him to lay by little on a Saturday night, and, therefore, it was that a country, situated as we were, should cling to every advantage we possessed, like grim death. (Applause.) He could place no confidence in a man who preached about liberality, cried buy cheap and sell dear, and yet in his own affairs was close-fisted indeed. If they wanted cheap labour, let them go where civilized man was degraded to a slave ; this country was not in a position to admit of our going into the cheapest market., If we bought a cheap ship, the required capital would go out of the country, and the poor man would ultimately be the sufferer; because we knew that capital was what had kept, the commerce, and what was more, the trade of Great Britain in a healthy state. (Applause.) Mr. J A. TOBIN seconded the Motion. He called . . of the navigation laws, as they had been established and recognized by the best of British statesmen. It was under these laws, he said, that Britain had arrived at her pre sent state of glory. He was sure we never could be guilty of so suicidal an act as to cut down the laws by which we had risen to our present height. If we did we would de serve our fate. If our ship building were carried to other shores, the result would be felt in our pockets ; work would be taken from the labouring man, and bread, con sequently, from his family. It had been said that we . might reduce our navy ; Cobden had told us to reduce it one-half, as peace on the continent proclaimed an univer sal peace. The speaker recited some of the recent conti nental convulsions as a contradiction, and said a great The Rev. Rector Campbell replied to an apprehension which had been expressed, that the ma:nitude of the ob ject was such as to render the purpose of the tithe re demption trust hopeless, and that any attempt to buy up lay tithes to the amount of a million and a-half per an num, which appeared to be the amount of inappropriate lay tithes, would be perfectly fruitless, by stating that the Trust could have no such purpose in view ; that any attempt to purchase lay tithes to that amount would not only be impracticable, but highly inefficient. That the connexion between church property and lay property by means of inappropriate tithes was a source of safety, and had possibly contributed to save the property of the church from further spoliation,—the Lords and Commons .of England being well aware that the spoliation of church property would lead, as it generally had led, to the spolia tion of their own. However successful the trust might be, it was highly improbable that any more than a small portion of the million and a-half would be redeemed. But however small it might be, it was, nevertheless, so much recovered for the religious in= struction,of the poor by the installation of a clerymar., who spent his time and money amongst them. After having referred to a small parish where the whole tithes were in the hands of a Roman Catholic layman, who duly paid the incumbent £4 a year, as a case in point where the intervention of the tithe intervention might be most brneficially employed. He concluded by expressing a hope that if the objects of the trust were fairly brought before the public, sufficient funds would be provided for so religious and haritable a purpose, which might affect a great amount of good, though by no means to the ex tent that might be desired, and proposed the following resolution : ' That the Tithe Redemption Trust Society deserves the support of all who are anxious to promote the diffusion of the pure and undefiled religion of the Church of England ; and that the rev. the clergy be re quested to recommend its interests to the members of their congregations." who, hurrying through a continental tour, affected to see by intuition the views of nations ; and proclaimed in the House of Commons that he did not see why the French should have a revolution, AS they had now no privileged orders, no Established Church. This was his prophecy ; but almost at the moment he was uttering these words the barricades were being raised in Paris, the monarchy overthrown, and armed bands of ruffians were surround ing the senate. (Applause.) Was this the prophet we. should take for a guide ? (a voice, "No !") He was sure‘that voice spoke for that large and influential assem blage. Mr.• Tobin concluded by saying that he would , rely rather on Segar than Cobden ; the former had truly said that "Peace is the dream of philosophers; war the, history of mankind." (Applause.) . . The Rev. J. JONES, on rising to second the resolution, expressed his cordial approbation of this scheme for the peaceful restitution of property to a despoiled and pillaged church. Free as it was from all party views of aggran disement, and indeed from every motive but that - of a de- Sire to promote the glory-of God,' and , calculated as it was eventually to raise the revenues of many an imnoverished inctimbency to something like an adequate support whereby the "labourer worthy of his hire" might pursue his h eav enly calling without distressing and enfeebling anxiety ' about a maintenance,—he could not but rejoice in the existence of such a society, and wish it " God speed." He was quite aware that some well-wishers to the object were discouraged by a notion as to the hopelessness of its . accomplishment. Nor was he surprised that it should be . so. When the object aimed at was very high, and the means for the accomplishment of that object proportiona. bly small, discouragement could not fail to be felt. The object set before us by this society —the redemption of church revenues, amounting, we are told, to upwards cif - one million per annum—was indeed very high, and appa rently quite unattainable by any means at present within our reach. But still, he maintained, there was no room for despondency, much less despair; for whilst the entire object at which it aimed might not be attainable, an inter mediate obiect of vast importance was certainly to-be at tained. Though we might not be able to accomplish the whole, we might accomplish a part, and that a goodly part. Every approximation to the desired end would prove a blessing in itself, and brighten our hopes and , expectations as to the future. He did not wish to , speak of this scheme as the best that could possibly be devised for the present increase of the revenues of im poverished livings, or to compare it invidiously with other ameliorating plans having substantially the same objeets•in view. In such matters he would respond to the sentiment of the Apostle when he said, " Let every man to protest against an abrogation of the navigatio•l laws. Mr. J. E. NAYLOR seconded the resolution, which was carried unanimously. • • The CHAIRMAN congratulated the meeting on the oh jea for which they had met that evening. He wished to see the poor man well dadtrade good —commerce flou rishing ; and it' that were to be carried out, they must support the navigation laws.. He concluded by thanking them for the compliment they had paid him. Mr. T. INMAN called the attention of the meeting to the objects of the association ' and in doing so said the question of the Navigation Laws was one affecting the interests of the capitalist as well as well as the labourer : all classes of tradesmen and all other branches of business were concerned as well as the ship carpenter. There were, perhaps, from 1000 - to 2000 ship carpenters in Liver pool, and if vessels were built in foreign countries at £5 per ton, while they cost here £l2 or £l4, what were persons employed in that branch of trade to do ?—where were they to get the .money . from to purchase articles of consumption from the tradesman and the shopkeeper ? (Hear, hear.) They would be obliged either to emigrate to other countries or be, dependent on the bounty of their more weaitby neighboUrs. - The evil would not, however, stop there, as the wealthy would soon be. brought down to a level with their poorerneighbours.. The principle he advocated'was to inereaie-labout. to the greatest possible extent, and that would be done by carrying out the prin ciple of the Navigation Laws. Whatever free traders might say to the contrary, their objeet was to cheapen provisions, and by that means bring down the wages of the labourer: (Hear, hear, and eh !) They wanted cheap labour, and would, have it unless the labouring classes prevented them. When the agriculturists spoke of having tlit4r labourers out of employ, what did the manufacturers say ?—they said, send them to the large towns, where they would be provided with employment. What was that but introducing additional operatives in the labour market, and thus bringing down wages to the lowest pos sible point ? He called' upon . the operative clas ses t o i form themselves nto associations, and organise under the guidance'of the secretary. of the general association, and consider whether they could tamely submit to the evils that must accrue to this country by an abrogation of the .Navigation Laws. He would rather see that which must inevitably come to pass, a revolution in this country, than that those laws should be repealed. (Cheers.) Mr. SHORT introduced to the meeting Mr. J. Jordan, who read a short report upon the subject of the navigation laws, and which was to be printed for circulation. The report alluded to free trade as one of the greatest curses of the country, as by it the workhouses had been filled and the people robbed of their rights. The corn had been brought from Russia, America, and other countries to the destruction of the agricultural interest, and the import of provisions had so reduced Ireland, that her people came over here for relief, and thus tended to swell the poor rates to an extiitdidinary amount. They might cry out about the potato fa t ilu e effreinecitrs of free trade. eland;itas Thenotso, sitpewakaesr w a fa mine from b loudly cheered at intervals during the reading of the report. Three 'cheers were then given for " The Queen," " Lord Stanley," " The retention of the Navigation Laws in all their integrity except such alterations as might be judici iiirsly- made," and " The good old Tory cause," after which the proceedings terminated with the Kentish fire. We may state, as rumours have been industriously cir- I_ to the contrary, - -that the room was densely Innulreda could not gain admittance— The reSolution was pa s t and carried unanimously _ . Mr. BETTELEyproposed the second resolution, to the effect that the members of the committee of the branch Association be requested to put themselves into commis-, nication with, the parent association, to petition the Housq of Lords to reject Mr. Labouchere's bill, and also to memorialise her Majesty to dissolve parliament, to ascer tain the sentiments of the country at large upon the navi gation laws. (Hear, hear, hear.) The Apeaker said he came forward to advocate the cause of the workmen an 4 the labourers of England : society was 'composed of the ,consumer, the speculator,- and the labourer. The con sumer required no 'protection;` the speculator would be the party benefited by the abrogation of the navigation laws, while the poor hard-labourer would be left in thd lurch to look after himself as best he could, without any law to protect his property, which was his labour: (Cheers.) The speculators were the. merchants ; and they said they would go to,other countries, where the ex penses attendant upon speculation were less ; but on the subject of the building of ships, where could be the advnn tage of sending the capital thus engaged to foreigners ? During the last year, at the time it was said we had a famine in the land, we went to buy corn abroad whilst we were constructing railroads at home, and then there came a panic, which was the coniequence of going to foreign markets for our provisions. (Hear, hear.) We had knocked our railways up to try to grow corn. What were the Financial Association doing ? Why, advocating low prices. All wealth came from the labour of the poor man. He would recommend the working class to advocate high wages, for money was but a mere scale to measure labour by, and he hoped it should never be said that Engilsht men should go abroad to construct their wooden walls. (C heers.) Mr. H. C. CHAPMAN seconded the resolution. He first read and eulogised the principles of the Constitu tional Association. He was happy, he said, to see the committee surrounded by what he should call the bones and sinews of her majesty's subjects. A friend of his had asked, of what use was the movement ; the public spirit was broken • the public mind degraded. His reply was, that the public mind of the ministers and statesmen might be degraded, but the pluck of English men,was as true as ever. (Applause.) Had her majesty asked him the same question, and asked who were those around him, he should have answered—behold the civic national guard of Liverpool. (Applause.) Mr. Chapman then referred to the navigation laws. It was a subject he said he' had paid great attention to—that he had been practically acquainted with for many years. (Hear, and the greatest enthusiasm prevailed during the entire proceedings. LIVERPOOL CHATHAM SOCIETY.—The annual soirée of the members and friends of this society was held on Wednesday evening, at the Royal Assembly-rooms, Great GeOrge-street, under very distinguished patronage. The chair was occupied by Lord John Manners, and there was a highly respectable and fashionable assemblage of ladies and gentlemen. Tlie Chairman delivered an eloquent address in opening the proceedings, and was followed by Dr. Trench, the Rev.. Dr. Hume; Mr. P. B. Drinkwater, and Mr. Kurtz, the secretary. After the business part of the proceedings bad Concluded, the room was cleared for dancing, which was kept up till an early hour. Refresh ments were served up in the ante-room, and the evening was spent in a highly gratifying manner. - . BLUE COAT BROTHERLY SOCIETY.—On Tuesday eve ning, the annual dinner of the members of t s society ,took place at the Adelphi Hotel, and the sumptuous re past was served up in Mr. Radley's usual excellent style. The chair was filled by Joseph Langton, Mg., and the vice-chair by Mr. Woods, the governor of the Blue Coat Hospital. ' There were also present, the Rev. Archdeacon Biooks,.Mr. S. Holme ' Mr. J. A. Tobin, Mr. Swainson, Mr. - E. Mr. R. Gibson, and Mr. Matthew .Greg son. Mr. G. Holden and his glee payty volunteered their enlivening-services.—The chairman in proposing " The Church," coupled with it "the health• of Archdeacon Brooks" with a Warm eulogitim.—The rev. gentleman in replying, said tlie Clueition of education was one which 'had - raised up many contrary opinions; but he would say, after many years' extierience, that an education, without religion, was worse than worthless He need only point, • • asTproof t 4-va ue of religious instructiol?, the members of the society present, who had all received their educatibu in the Blue Coat Hospital. When he looked upon the respectable apoturance'of the young men around him, and when he bore in mind the Christian object they had iu view—namely, the.guardianship of their younger brethren in-less fortunate circumstances, who tvere tread ing in a path that required their utmost care and solici tude, just emerging into the temptations and trials of the world, after having been nurtured in the school in which they had been inmates-.--he could not but feel con vinced of the inestimable value of the education they had had imparted to thiiin.—The following toasts were also given and ably responded. to.; ." The Blue Coat Hospital, and the memory pf its - pions founders ;" "The present Trustees of the H - ospital;" " The Chairman;" and "The town and trade of Liverpool." Mr. S. Holme, in replying to the last, contrasted the present undisturbed state of this country with the turmoil and -civil wars which had rent asunder other countries, - and attributed it to the hold which the Church of England had on the affections of the people. Referring to the Blue-coat Hospital, and looking at the inscription on the flag opposite to him, established in 1717, he hoped it would receive that .support which would enable it to flourish more and more. He had had several boys from the school, and had never been so well pleased with other boys. The objects of the society are to visit the boys who are apprenticed from the school, and, in case of destitution, to award them clothing, &c. The society consists of young men who have been brought up in the fiehnol, and they assist each other occasionally by loans of money, &c.