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Vublit Altetings ATHENEUM. HE GENERAL ANNUAL MF ING of the PRO -1 PRIETORS of this INS'rITUTI will be held in the Library, on TUESDAY, the 9th Jtilv instant, at Eleven o'clock in the Forenoon. JAMES CROSBIE, President. July Ist, 1833. PROMO TIN FOR PROMOT , IN CHRISTIAN KNOWLED 4 . THE QUARTERLY MEET of the LIVERPOOL X DISTRICT COMMITT of the SOCIETY for PROMOTING CHRISTIAN KNOWLEDGE will be held -on THURSDAY, the 11th instant, at One o'clock, at the BLUE 'COAT HOSPITAL. (Signed) P. BULMER, Secretaries 3. B. MONK, S • INSTITUTION FOR THE RELIEF OF THE WIDOWS AND ORPHANS OF CLERGYMEN WHO HAVE OFFICIATED WITHIN THE ARCHDEACONRY OF CHESTER. THE FRIENDS of the abosi CHARITY will hold their next ANNUAL MEETING at MANCHESTER, on TCESDAY, the 16th of July, when a SERMON will be Preached in the Parish Church by the Rev. GEORGE. BLOOMFIELD, Pre bendary. of Chester. Divine Service to commence at Eleven o'clock. -Dinner will be provided at Hay ward's Hotel, Bridge-street, at Three o'clock. GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY COMPANY. NT, OTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, that , the FIRST GE ..1..N NERAL MEETING of this Company will be held on y WEDNESDAY, the 10th day of July ne , 't Eleven o'clock in the forenoon, at the Cotton Sales-room, the Exchange-build;. ings, in Liverpool, for the election of IRECTORS, and for the other purposes, and pursuant to the directions of the Act of Parliament passed in the present session, incorporating the said Company.—Dated this _]9th day of Juue, 1833. JOHN MOSS, Chairman of the Directors. Tratit aub eilanufacturts. TO FAMILIES FURNISHING. - LIVERY Article of FUUNISHINV IRONMON`GERY, 1 1 Cutlery, Sheffield Plate, Tin and. Copper Utensils, Me tal Bedsteads, &c. &c. may be had, of; warranted quality, and in every possible variety, at the Warerlioms of W.; DRulty, 12,. Castle-street, Liverpool, at moderate prices. OFFICES (fronting Castle-street,) TO LET. PATENT BRANDY versus PREJUDICE. T. BETTS and Co. had flattered themselves that the un -0 • precedented extent of sale and admitted superiority in the quality of their PATENT FRENCH DISTILLED BRANDY, would, ere now, have whole dissipated the prejudice which has been known to exist in the minds of many persons against Brandy manufactured in this country, and which, before the introduc tion of their article, was, perhaps, justifiable. If a patronage, as distinguished as it. is extensive, including many thousand families of every rank and class of society in all parts of the kingdom, be any proof of merit, then has the PATENT BRANDY irresistible claims to universal support. J. T. BETTS and Co. could well have afforded to rest their claims to the merit of having introduced an unrivalled produc tion on such incontrovertible evidence. But they feel that the public, rather than themselves, are interested in the announce ment, that they are perfectly aware of the efforts still made by interested persons to depreciate the PATENT BRANDY; and to prevent the entire removal from the public mind of that inju rious delusion, which, however weakened, still exists in a qua lified degree. It is mainly with a view, therefore, to destroy the last remnant of this prejudice, that J. T. BETTS and Co. recall the attention of all classes to the consideration of the de cided approval given by the faculty to their PATENT BRANDY— an approbation resting on the important facts contained in the 181lowinF detail : First, Illat "BETTS'S PATENT FRENCH DISTILLED BRANDY" is the only known.pure Spirit in the World. Secondly, That the dealers in French Brandy—who have always been the most inveterate, as they are the natural oppo nents of the PATENT BRANDY—have been repeatedly chal lenged in the public journals, by comparison otherwise, to disprove the foregoing fact; and as the vital terests of their trade hang upon its disproval, the sole and j inference drawn by the public, from their constantly declinin o accept the chal lenge, is, that THE FACT LS BEYOND DISPUTE. hirdiv, That, whilst the PATENT BRANDY possesses all the valuable properties of the first class Cognac, it is free from the acids which even that fine spirit is known to contain. Its supe riority is still more marked over French Brandies of the second and lower classes, which are frequently mixed with considerable quantities of a spirit obtained from other products than the grape, containing a large proportion of acid, which tends seri ously to disorder the stomach. Fourthly, That in consequence of the freedom of the PATENT BRANDY from those injurious acids, its use is not attended with nausea or head-ache. Arid, as a necessary consequence of its extreme purity, it is found congenial to the most delicate con .stitutions, and is especially valuable to persons of bilious or dyspeptic habits. Fifithly, That, for the foregoing reasons, all the faculty, who are acquainted with the intrinsic merits of the PATENT BRANDY, recommend it in preference to any other spirit for medicinal purposes. Sixthly, That, for the like reasons, when used as an ordinary beverage, diluted (in the manner recommended by the first -Physicians) in the proportion of one to six, it is infinitely pre ferable to Malt, and other fermentable liquors. Whilst it stands unrivalled for HOME MADE WINES, CONFECTIONARY, and CULI NARY purposes, where the absence of acids is au important requisite. Seventhly—That the PATENT BRANDY, either PALE or co- LOURED, at the highest legal strength, is charged Only EIGHTEEN SHILLINGS per Imperial Gallon, or little more than half the price of French Brandy. And lastly—That the superiority of the PATENT BRANDY, as thus defined, is established by unanimous opinions, founded upon the results of various analyses made by the most cele brated chemists; from whose certificates the three accompany ing extracts are selected : EXTRACTS FROM THE TESTIMONIALS. " Your Brandy is free from uncombined acid and astringent matter, which exists more or less inmost of the Brandies im ported from France. " JOAN THOMAS COOPER, " To Mr. Betts." Lecturer on Chemistry." " I am bound to say, and do assert it with confidence, that for purity of spirit this cannot be surpassed, and that your Pa tent Brandy is also quite free from those acids which, though minute in quantity, always contaminate the foreign spirit. " JOSEPH 111.31E,_ "J. T. Betts, Esq." v Chemist to his Majesty." " I do not hesitate to express my conviction that your Patent Brandy is fully as free from every thing injurious to health, and contains as pure a spirit, as the best varieties of foreign Brandy. " EDWARD TURNER, Professor of Chemistry in the University of London." " John 7. Betts, Esq." J. T. BETTS and Co. deem it expedient to caution the Pub lic against the many spurious imitations which abound both in town and country ; and in consequence of the name of their Distillery having been pirated, it is further necessary to state, that their only establishment is at No. 7, Smithfield Bars, (leading to SCJohn-street,) where orders for Two Gallons and upwards will be promptly executed for cash on delivery. *.,,* A liberal discount to the trade. WEST OF ENGLAND FIRE AND LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY. Chief Office, EXETER. Office in Loudon, 21', Bridge-street, Blackfriars. 13-ERSONS insured against Fire to the extent of £3OO and r . 4 .11L - upwards, will be entitled to a S are of Half the Profits, derived from Fire Insurances eve th year. LIFE INSURANCES are al; ffected on the approved plan of giving to those Insured for 'IUO and upwards, a Share in the Profits, which may be added to the Sum insured, and payable therewith, or applied in Reduction of the Annual Premiums. Rates and Conditions may be had of the Agents. CHARLES LEWIS, Secretary. Those Persons whose Policies fell due on the 2 , lth JUNE, are respectfully informed, that they should renew the same within fifteen days from that date, for their own security. WM. WHITEHOUSE and SONS, Agents, 12, Exchange-buildings, Liverpool. IMPRISONMENT FOTt DEBT.—By the return of persons im prisoned for debt in 1832, in England and Wales, it appears the gross number was 16,470; of whom 4,093 maintained them selves; three-fourths being too poor to provide themselves. By the fourth report of the Common Law Commissioners, dated March 1, 1232, it appears that of persons in execution for debt in 1831, more than 25 per cent. were for debts under £23, and more than 45 under £3O A depu tatioa. Crum- a committee-of commanders and_ () tie rs of the East India Company's maritime service waited on the President of the Board of Control on Saturday, for the purpose of advocating the claims of the service for compensation under the new India Bitl.—The Guardian. • A grand dinner was given to Sir Richard Vyvyan by his constituents of Bristol on Wednesday last, Mr. Alder man Daniel in the chair, on which occasion he was presented with a handsome snuff-box, on which is the following inscription : " This Snuff-Box was made from part of an oak beam dug out of the ruins of the late Custom-house, in Bristol, which, with two sides of Queen-square, and property in various parts of the city, amounting to One Hundred Thousand Pounds, was de stroyed by fire on the night of the 30th of October, 1831, by a lawless mob, under the influence of passions excited by the watch-word of Reform, and is preserved in melancholy remem brance of that event, and as a warnino- of the dangers to which a community must always be exposed, when factious dema gogues find means to tamper with the people, and snake them dissatisfied with that state of life unto which it bath pleased God to call them." We understand that Marshal Bourmont, the Minister of War of Charles X., is arrived in London with his aides-de-camp and staff, ou his way to Lisbon to take the command of Don Mi guel's army. 'I he marshal is supposed to have come last from Holland, and is said since his arrival to have been in frequent communication with another marshal, whose connection, mili tary and with Portugal is well known. It is proper that the English merchants connected with Lisbon and Oporto should be aware of these facts; which may materially, affect their interests, as well as the future prospects of Portugal. The assistance that may be rendered to Don Miguel by an officer so distinguished for his military talents and experience as General Bourmont, nut to . speak of the etat major that attends him, cannot fail to prolong the unfortunate contest so fatal to British interests, which seemed fast drawing to a close by the triumph of Donna Maria.—Globe. The late Lieutenant -General, the Earl of Pomfret, whose death occurred a few days since, enjoyed his honours but a few years, having succeeded his brother George, the third Earl, 3d of April, 1830. The noble earl, as the Hon. Thomas William Fermor, was appointed to an ensig,ncy in the 3d, (now the Scotch Fusileer Guards,) early in 1791. He served in Flan ders in 1793, and was present at the sieges of Valenciennes and Dunkirk, and the Sttles of Lincelles and Fomars. He served in Ireland during the rebellion, and in the expedition to the Helder, where he was present at se vera l ac t ions . Th e lt;th March, 18t%), he vras appointed to a company, with the rank of Lieutenant-Colonel. fie was with the Guards in Spain and Portugal, until his promotion to the rank of Major-General obliged him to return to England. He was present at the battle of Salamanca, for which lie had the hono ur o f wear i ng a medal, and he also was a knight of the Swedish Order of the Tower and Sword. His lordship married, 23d January, 1823, Amabel Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Sir Richard and the Hon. Lady Borough, by whom he has left George William Richard, Viscount Leominster, (now Earl of Pomfret,) another infant son, and two daughters, The noble earl had for some time suffered from an attack of paralysis. His last commission as Lieutenapt-General bears date ?jai of May, 18215. 3Entptriat Vartiament. HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, ./LL Y 1. Lord FOLEY presented several petitions from places in Staf fordshire against colonial slavery. Lord BELHAVEN presented a petition from the county of Lanark, against the existing system of church patronage in Scotland. Lord BELHAVEN also presented a petition from the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland against the new system of education which ministers had adopted for Ireland. He assured their lordships that the petition originated in strictly religious feelings, and was not, in the slightest degree, influenced by political motives, or by any wish to embarrass His Majesty's ministers. The Marquis of WESTMEATH moved the third reading of the Irish Infirmaries Bill. Ile observed that the bill was intended to prevent the appropriation of bequests for the support of infir maries to other objects than those for which they were intended. The Earl of WicicLow said this was a bill of great importance. He would ask whether his Majesty's ministers had made them selves masters of its details, and were ready to support it? If such were the case, he would not oppose it. The Duke of RicumoND said itwould, in his opinion, be better if the noble earl, instead of addressing himself to his Majesty's ministers, would state what amendments he wished to be made iu the hill. After a few words from the Duke of WELLINGTON, who thought that his noble friend was perfectly justified in calling for the postponement of the measure, the Marquis of WEsTmEATii, and the Marquis of LosiDoNDERRY, the second reading was postponed till to-morrow.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, JULY 1. The Sneaker took the chair a few minutes before 4 o'clock. Mr. W. DUNeomBE presented petitions from Middleham and Northallerton, praying . that the government plan for the renewal of the Bank charter might be so far modified as to secure to the public the present system of courtry banking. Colonel EVANS presented a petition praying the house to in tercede on behalf of Mr. Robert Taylor, whom they considered a fit object for the royal mercy. Sir S. WHALLEY had presented similar petitions on this sub ject, and regretted the prayer of them had not been acceded to. Mr. O'CONNELL declared, as a constitutional lawyer, that no man could be fined in this country to a greater degree than he was able to pay, without committing a direct infraction of one of the provisions of Magna (Marta which had enacted, in so many words, that "no man should be amerced beyond his means." Mr. HumE presented a petition from William Gunton, com plaining.of the regulations of the General Post-office, and stat ing that in the month of October last he had posted a letter from some part of the country to London containing a £25 note, and that to the present time he had never received it, though he had made repeated applications to Sir F. Freeling, the Duke of Richmond, and other persons connected with that establish• ment. The great hardship of this case, of which the hon. mem ' her snore particularly complained, was, that the General Post office would not suffer a letter containing money to be forwarded by any other means than the Post-office, and yet refused to be answerable for its safe transit, or to account for any loss that might ensue. He believed there was no department of the state required such a thorough reform as the Post-office. The hon. member also complained of an alteration that had recently taken place with regard to the transmission of letters to America. A finv weeks ago it was only necessary to go into the city and put a letter into a general beg that was forwarded to the United States, but that very advantageous arrangement was now at an end. He thought that the c omplaints that had recently been made to that house and to the government upon the abuses and mismanagement in that establishment were well worthy the at tention of his Majesty's ministers. (Hear.) Mr. LANGDALE moved that the writ of election for the borough of Warwick should be further suspended until Thurs day, July 11.--Agreed to. Mr. O 'CosiriELL brought In a bill to improve the rivers, lakes, and estuaries in Ireland, which was read a first time, or dered to be printed, and read a second time on Wednesday se'nnight. Mr. O'CONNELL moved for a separate return of the number of stamps issued for newspapers in Ireland from the sth of January, 1b33, to the sth of June in the same year. After a few words across the table from Mr. LITTLETON and Mr. O'CONNELL, the return was ordered. Lord ALTHOIiP moved that the order of the day for the com mittee on the bank charter acts be read. Mr. FINN hoped to be permitted to move for returns of the amount of compensation granted on the sales of the Irish bo roughs at the time of the legislative union.—Ordered. Mr. CORBETT was understood to ask the noble lord the Chancellor of the Exchequer to permit him, before the order of the day was read, to move, pursuant to his notice, for a select committee •to inquire into the matter of the petition from the political union of Walworth, complaining of the employment of policemen as spies. The subject was one of interest to the public. quite as much so as the bank question, and he could not sec on wnat gronuds the motion could be resisted by the govern ment, and he (Mr. Cobbett) was quite willing that the com mittee should be named by the noble lord himself, as he was sure sucha - conunitteewould do justice in the case. Lord ALTHORP said that die_ honourable gentleman had given notice of his motion for a day upon which, according to the rules of the house, the orders took precedence; and the only difficulty he (Lord Althorp) felt was, as to how far he could consent to an interference with those rules. He must agree with the hon. gentleman (and he was satisfied that there was no individual who would not also concur in the opi nion) that the employment of spies for the purpose of prying into private life, or, in other words, to go through the system practised abroad, which was both vexatious and abominable, was adopting that to which no British Parliament would give its support. (Hear.) That, however, was not now the ques tion; but the real question was, whether it was not only right, but also the duty . of the police, to ascertain what took place at public meetings, into which persons were either admitted by paying or which might be gratuitously open to the public. With respect to the pollee force or the metropolis, he could say that when they were first formed the right hon. baronet, the author -of their establishment, gave positive instructions that they should never be employed as spies, and when his (Lord Althorp's) noble friend succeeded the right hon. baronet, he had given the same instructions—instructions from which he was satisfied the hon. gentlemen at the head of the police department would not deviate. But the meetings at whi c h the police had be en sen t t o attend were meetings not of a private nature, but to which every person who chose to go was admitted, and at which language of a most inflammatory character had been used. Now, he (Lord Althorp) did maintain that the government would not have done their duty if they had not taken means for ascertaining the pro ceedings of meetings of this description. It wag only at. such meetings that the police had attended; he admitted that they had done so in plain clothes, because it must not be denied that, with the unpopularity which in some degree affected them, they could not have obtained admission otherwise. It was alleged in the petition which had been presented that the policeman named therein had made use at some of the meetings of inflammatory language, encouraging the parties present to violence. If this policeman had done so, he had certainly been practising that most odious qualification of a spy, n amely, exciting those very disorders which he must afterwards be called upon to repress, and such conduct on his part was directly contrary to theinstruc tions which he had received. With regard to the appointment of a committee, he did not feel any g reat objection, inasmuch as it might tend to ascertain what had been the conduct of the policeman Pophay,'and to get a fair and clear account of what had taken place; but he was anxious to take this opportunity of explaining what had been the conduct of the government, and to assure the house that they had in no instance allowed the police to interfere with private societies, but merely to attend public meetings open to any individual. (Hear, hear.) Mr. TENN YSON concurred in the propriety of individuals be ing sent to public meetings to note the proceedings for the information of the government, but th e ch arge against this individ ua l was, that he had enrolled himself a member of a certain class of the National political Union, in that union had not only used exciting language, but had subscribed for a depot of arms, and a room for the purpose, of military exercise, and was, during the whole time , . receiving his pay as a police man. He rejoiced that the noble lord had consented to the appointment of a committee to enquire into the matter. He had been intrusted with a petition signed by upwards of 500 of his constituents, expressing the deepest anxiety upon the subject, and the greatest alarm for their personal safety, and praying that the police might be carefully watched. BANK CHARTER. The order of the day was then rerfd for the house resolving itself into committee on the Bank Charter Acts, and th e Speaker having left the chair, Lord ALTHORP said, that before he moved the second reso lution he begged to state to the house an alteration he proposed to make in his plan. He proposed that any person presenting a £5 country note for payment at the country bankers' would have the right of demanding in exchange five sovereigns. This alteration would not, he thought , make any differ ence in the principle of his plan. There was another point he wished to state to the house ; he was desirous of post poning the discussicu on the 6th and Bth resolutions— those relating to joint stock companies—in order that the committee might dispose of the other resolutions as soon as possible, and he . might then be enabled to found a bill for the renewal of the bank charter on the report. (Hear, hear.) Sir H. PEEL said that if he rightly understood the purport of the noble lord's alteration, it meant that for every £5 note pre sented-zit the countrr bunks, Abe- - it t..i g ht de mend payment in gold. \ Of course, then, if any one presented one hundred £5 notes, he might receive gold for teem all ? (Hear, hear.) Lord ALTHORP replied in the negative. Sir li. PEEL—What not if he present them separately? Lord ALT rioar.--No. not at the same time, as that would have a serious effect upon the bank. He would add, that if it should appear that the alteration he now proposed would have the effect the right hon. baronet anticipated, it would defeat his original intention, and under those circumstances he would not pet severe in it. (A laugh.) The alteration, however, was not, Hr his own opinion, calculated to do so. Sir J. Witovrusi.EY said that he would not now discuss the important point whether Bank of England notes should be made a legal tender, though he would not deny that such a measure was called for by the country bankers. He did not, however, anticipate any benefit from it. He thought it would tend, in the opinion of the . public, to depreciate those notes, when it was known that they would not, be paid in gold in the country as hitherto. Sir G. PHILIPS said that the proposition for making the,Bank of England note a legal tender was uncalled for; and he con fessed it was with feelings of astonishment, he might almost say surprise, that he first heard of it. One of the consequences would be, that people in the country, not being able to get their notes converted into cash, would have to send them up to London, and thus a pressure wOuld be created on the Bank of England. The more he reflected on the subject the more danger he discovered. After all the sufferings which had been endured by the people from the successive tampering-s with the con ency of the country, were they now about to tamper with it anew by attempting to make the Bank-note a legal tender? It appeared to him to be almost tantamount to another act of restriction. Mr. BA RING said, that as there existed the greatest difference in opinion with regard to the question then under consideration, it therefore behoved them to proceed with caution and delibera tion in forming any decisiOn. For his part he should support the original resolution, because be did not think a paper circu lation in this country was safe unless the Bank of England notes were made a legal tender. There was something, to he sure, very alarming in the term "legal tender , " as applied to Bank-notes, but what was the real nature of the case? The proposition only caused one more step to intervene before the conversion of the note into specie. It was just the same as a banker in Lombard-street giving Bank of England notes instead of gold. He gives a delegation on the Bank in the nature of an order, and in what did that differ from a payment in specie? Only in this,—that it interposed one intermediate stage between the -presentation and the gold 'payment. The practice was purely one of convenience, and one which would prevent the recurrence of those frights and panics which so much disturbed the commercial world. It had been contended that our system of currency was now sufficiently stable, and it was asked why alter it? He would answer by another question— was it perfectly secure in 1825? It might do very well in fair weather, but as soon as gales arose its insecurity became ap parent; and he would add, that if ever that unfortunate period arose when the credit of the Bank of England should be shaken, no credit would exist throughout the country. It would be vain boasting to pretend that any engagements could be fUlfilled if the Bank was prevented from fulfilling,. its engage ments. No business could be carried - on throughout :the country, for all credit must fail with that of the Bank. Sir it PEEL said, that the argument which had always been maintained in that house was, that the issue of £1 notes stimulated undue speculation, and had the effect of encourag ing the withdrawal of coin from the country. It was very true that when a crisis arose under those circumstances there would be a demand for the deposits placed in the hands of country bankers, because confidence in the paper circulation was weakened; but his hon. friend, the member for Essex, was in no respect justified in contending that the paper currency of 1825 was the same as the paper currency of the present mo ment, because now we had by the prohibition of £1 and £2 notes secured an equal distriVutiOn of paper and coin, and had thus guarded against the risk of a commercial panic. His hon. friend was right in saying that parliament ought to do everything in their power to ensure the stability-of the Bank of England, because everything which tended to increase the pub lic confidence in that establishment augmented and strength- "cued the resources of the country; biit the question was, — could an act of parliament give confidence? Could legislation compel people to think that paper was as good as gold? (Hear, hear.) His hon. friend had said that a banker in London would not give cash for a check of large amount, but an order on the Bank of England, and he remarked that nobody hesitated to receive the paper instead of the gold in this case. How happened that? Why had people confidence in the paper? — Because there was no act of Parliament to declare it a legal tender. (Hear, hear.) Burke examplitied this principle when he said, " Your notes are current on the Royal Exchange be cause they are not in Westminster-hall." Mr. GROTE confessed that up to a short time ago the noble lord's plan had his full concurrence; and that it was only on subsequent inquiry he had been induced to alter his firstim pression, and come to the conclusion that it would effect more harm than good. He admitted that to a considerable extent the noble lord's proposition would operate beneficially in times of commeicial panic, assuming that the panic was not carried to the extent of distrusting the Bank of England circulation; but at the same time he must say, that the plan did not, on re consideration, appear to him to give proper security for a full and adequate retail - * circulation of coin. (Hear, hear.) On that ground he was induced to withhold his assent from the propose& measure. He did not mean to deny that country bankers would be induced, by motives of compethion, to supply gold to their customers; but this supply of coin would be limited to their immediate localities, and would not spread, as it ought to do, over the whole of England, in the poorer districts as well as the rich. (Hear, hear.) This would cause a premium to be asked for payments in gold. An hon. member had alluded to the practice of tankers - in the north charging one-eighth per cent. for payments in gold previous to the establishment of the branch banks. Such a practice would bear with great hardship on the poorer districts, already labouring under sufficient dis advantages.. This was one of the reasons which had induced him to alter his opinion with respect to the noble lord's plan. Lord SANDON observed, that the object of government ap peared to be to relieve country-bankers from the necessity of p_rocuring gold in the event of a panic, by making Bank of 1. tigland paper a legal tender in the counties above a certain amount (£5.) How would the system satisfy the holders of. £5 country notes, and the depositors, who were the two classes of the country-bankers' customers? The holders of £5 note could still demand gold,- and the depositors might draw checls for small amounts, in order to get gold. Such being the care, the country bankers would naturally send to London notfor Bank of England notes, which might not -be accepted, butfor the article (gold) which he was quite sure would answe• his purpose in the event of a panic. Thus it appeared tha; the government plan was, to say the least of it, inefficient : a suffi cient. g round to justify him in opposing the resolution. Mr.EWA Rr would vote against the government propoiition on three grounds—first, because he had not heard its necessity demonstrated; secondly, because it increased the monopdy of the Bank; and lastly, because it tended in some degree . .0 a depreciation of the currency. Mr. P. SCROPE believing it to be impossible to convert into gold one-hundredth part of the liabilities of the country, con sidered it necessary to throw some obstacles in the way of a demand for gold; at the same time the public would have adequate security in Bank of England paper. Sir H. WILLOUG lIBY said thatif a pew arose from a distrust of paper money, it could not be cured by a tender of paper money, and au offer of paper would increase rather than diminish the alarm. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and in the midst of the confusion occasioned by clearing the gallery, Lord ALTHORP stated, in reply to three questions put to him by Mr. Herries, that he thought he had already answered the questions satisfactorily, at the desire of other hon. members. However, as it Would appear that he had not made himself per fectly intelligible to the house, he was ready to repeat what he had stated first; in answer to the hon. member for Whitehaven, as to the duration of the arrangement. The hon. member had asked him whether it was to be considered as permanent or otherwise? He had stated, in answer to this, that the hon. gentleman must be aware that this was a regulation, not for the benefit of the Bank, but for the benefit of the public. He added that as it was proposed to insert in the act of Parliament that it *as intended to renew the Bank charter for a period of twenty one year, it followed that the regulation could not, under that act, exist beyond the term fixed for the maintenance of the charter. With respect to the posSibility of the arrangement being altered in the mean time, he was of opinion, that if it should be found detrimental to the public interest, it would be competent to Parliament to alter it. He had been asked, in the next place, whether he intended to introduce a 'provision into the bill for the purpose of compelling the Bank to keep up a certain number of branch establishments to pay in gold in the country? He did notbelieve it possible for him, or any other man, to state with precision in an act of Parliament how many branch establishments the Bank ought to support, and there fore he declined interfering in the matter. With respect to the third question, he did not think the alteration he had made in the resolution, which was intended, not to satisfy any doubt of his own as to a possible deficiency of coin iu circulation under the resolution as it before stood, but to satisfy the apprehensions entertained by others on that subject, he did not think that the change would produce any material effect. Five pound notes were payable in gold, but for all amounts above five pounds Bank of England paper would be a legal tender. If, as had been suggested, a bank issued five-guinea notes, a Bank of England note would certainly be a legal tender fur part of that amount. The committee then divided — For the resolution 214 Against it - 156 Majority --58 In reply to some observations from Mr. Herries and Mr. Baring, Lord A LTHORP said he thou_ght that the amount of debt which would remain due to th B e ank after the repayment of 25 per cent. which Government proposed to make upon it would afford ample security to the public. It was, no doubt, most de sirable that an adequate security should remain for the public, in the shape of debt due by the Government to the Bank, but he was of opinion that after reducing that debt to the extent of £3,500,000, a security . as ample as was necessary would be still provided for the public. Mr. Alderman THOMPSON said, that with respect to the re reduction of the capital of the Bank, which formed part of the ! , eneral arrangement proposed to the Bank by Government, the' Bank was satisfied that the amount of capital which would remain, after the proposed payment of £3,500,000, would be quite sufficient for the discharge of all the functions which it discharged, or which it might be called upon to discharge, in nonsequence of the adoption of that new arrangement. , It was first proposed by the noble lord to reduce the capital of the Bank one-half; but to that proposal the Bank directors very properly felt strong objections, and the statement of those ob jections on their part had, he thought, fully justified the noble lord in departing so far from his original proposition as to limit the reduction to £3,500,000. He was quite satisfied that the ' amount of capital which would remain would be amply ade quate for all the purposes for which it would be required, and that it would be ample security for the maintenance of the public confidence in the Bank. Mr. HustE said that the bargain appeared to be the most ex traordinary one ever made. Never was a minister so much im posed upon. The Bank got their monopoly for nothing. The noble lord was the last man from whom he should have expected such a bargain. Alderman THOMPSON defended the bargain made with the Bank. (A laugh.) If gentlemen would only consider what had been the profits of the Bank during the last ten years, they would not think the bargain improvident. Their capital of "£19,000,000 returned 6 per cent., consequently, there was not now that claim upon the Bank for concessions that there had been. In 1801 the Bank was not compelled to pay their notes in specie. After a short desultory conversation, in which Sir B. Peel, Mr. Hume, Mr. Clay, and Lord Althorp, took part, the third reso lution was agreed to, and the house having resumed, The Chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Wednesday next, Mr. It. GRANT brought up the report on the Jewish Civil Disabilities which, with the amendments, was agreed to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time on Wednesday se'nnight. Mr. F. BARING obtained leave to bring in a bill for the more easy and effectual audit and passing of sheriffs' accounts, and to abolish certain offices in the Court of Exchequer. The hill was subsequently brOught in, read a first time, and or dered to be read - a second time on the 10th of July. The BPEVittr: haYingnatted upon Mr. Cobtren to - move, pur;* suant to notice, for a select committee to inquire into the mat ter of the petition complaining of the conduct of the metropo litan 'police, Lord ALTHOR,P said that, in the absence of the hon. member for Oldham, he hoped that as he (Lord Althorp) had that even ing undertaken to stand in the hon. member's place (a laugh), the house would permit him to move for the select committee, pursuant to the motion of the hon. member for Oldham. The motion was agreed to, and the select committee ap pointed. Sir A. AdivEw brought in a bill to explain and amend the laws relating to the observance of the Lord's-day in Scotland, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Tuesday fortnight. On the motion of Mr. Bernal, the writ of election for the borough of Hertford was ordered to be further suspended until Tuesday - , the 16th of July. The other orders of tlie day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at half-past two o'clock. THE LIVERPOOL S'AN DARD committee to mider the practicability of progressively reduc ing the nationallebt by its conversion into terminable annui ties at graduall)limini;hed rates of interest, so as to lessen its burden every yet.; and to determine the best mode of assessing the property an income of the kingdom to meet the expense of such conversion and to form at the same time a surplus revenue fund, which sheld enable the Parliament progressively to re peal , those impels which bear most heavily on the agiicultural, manufacturingaud shipping interests 9f the country." It had ever been urgs in answer to any proposition for the relief of the country thi the national debt occupied too large a portion of the revenua the country. The present funded system was generally obje;ed to on many grounds, and the plan which he had to proposiwould, he thought, meet all those objections. Amongst other, it was complained that the funds were too various, and must say that the variety seemed to be occa sioned by theanxiety of all Chancellors of the Exchequer heretofore to lake them as mysterious and incomprehensible as by ingenuif could be contrived. To obviate this, he should propose that to national debt should be converted into a gene ral fund, to I called the national annuity fund, and to be terminable atthe end of 100 years, so that at the least the children of th present or next generation should be relieved from the deb which would then have an end. This fund, so terminable should not, as he proposed, bear an uniform rate of intent, but, commencing at live per cent., should be reduced eacbyear one shilling per cent., and that reduction being contined during the whole period of 100 years, the debt would ecome extinct. This plan would not only re lieve a geneation yet unborn without inflicting any injury upon the prsent generation, but the great advantage would arise to •therundholder of preventing the risk of the debt be ing swept any by any political convulsion.; He had already saidthat he viuld commence the rate of interest at 5 per cent., and it was tze that money could now be had for 31 per cent., and thereforit became necessary to provide for raising a greater sum than ws now required to pay the interest of the existing national deb. This deficiency he proposed to supply by a tax upon propezy and income, a tax which, on all the principles of legiti m atetaxation suitable to every country, was, he main tained, the firest Ind most equitable. He contended that the unequal presure of taxation, and the distress thereby occa sioned on thfmass of the people, not only had an injurious effect upon the pubic mirals, but also upon the dispensation of justice. All he wantd was a committee to ascertain the fact whether a property taxcouk not be imposed with advantage to the coun try.. He didnot anticipate that much time would be lost by . ac ceding to hi imposition, because he believed the committee might close tie): labours in a fortnight. His object in making the present inigion was to render simple what before was mys terious, and economical what before was subject to profusion and extravagance. Lori ALTHORP said that he felt himself called upon to make a s ee - observations in consequence of the motion which had just bees made, and, first of all he could not help remarking that, as the matter under discussion was one dependent upon plain statements., he thought it was better fitted to be disposed of by the house :han a select committee. He confessed that in many of the-observations made by the honourable member for Shef field he fully concurred, and had no particular objections to the plan of the conversion into terminable annuities. Many schemes had been broached, and many attempts had been made of a somewhat similar nature to that of the honourable member, but they had siways been found, upon examination, to be wanting in efficiency. They all appear very plausible in theory, but it was a very great question whether they would be of advantage in the enc. He thought- it would be better to increase the wealth of the country, and thereby . to enable it to bear its burdens, than to idopt the hon. member's plan, which would add £18,000,000 a-year .to the existing charge upon the country. The nchle lord concluded by observing that he did not think it necessary to enter further into.the question, which he sup posed the lion. member had brought forward rather with the in tention o explaining his own views to the house, than in the hope the: it would lead to any practical result. Mr. H:IHE strongly condemned the present scheme of taxa tion, by chich he said that the working people were made to contribue four-fifths of the revenue. A day labourer was taxed to the exalt of 5U or 60 per cent., whilst a man worth £20,000 a year ass taxed only 15 per cent. A new system of taxation must be adopted, by which property . acquired would be bur dened, aid industry struggling for existence relieved. Colors' EVANS said he observed that, whenever graduated taxationwas mentioned as applicable to the rich, the noble lord talked went spoliation; but he never alluded to that when the questiotwas a graduated tax acting in an inverse manner upon the middle and poorer classes, as in the case of the house and windowduties. (Hear.) The louse then divided— lor Mr. Buckingham's motion 38 .against it 57 Majority . • 19 IRISH TITHES. Mr. 3ARRON rose to submit certain resolutions respecting the title system in Ireland to the consideration of the house. He would no: go beyond the spirit of the recommendations of their ova conmittees, one of which declared that " for a series of veais tithes had been the source of endless confusion and bloodshed," and another which had recommended " a total extincton of tithes" as the only efficient remedy which the system admitted "of. (Hear.) All that he proposed was the embodring these important suggestions in one definite proposi tion, vshichwould have the effect of allaying for ever the excite ment of the Irish mind in respect to tithes, by declaring that tithes vere extinguished, and should never be re-enacted. At present the Irish church property was a kind of close corpo ration, or•rather series of nominee boroughs, in the hands of certain Protestant families; in throwing it open to the public he exiected the support of those Reformers who took such credit to themselves for extinguishing the civil nominee borough excrescences of the state. He did wish to cut down the reward of the working clergyman, far from it; his object was to adjust remuneration to service, and not as at present, by paying a clergynan who had done nothing, because, among other rea sons, le had no flock. In Scotland, calculating the sums paid, and the numbers of the population, the amount received by the clergy br the spiritual care of the population, was about ls. per bead, while in Ireland every Protestant cost £l. 13s. 4d. The retsedy for this was legislative interference, and to prove that thi: was no novelty, and that ecclesiastical property might be deal/with by Parliament, the hon. gentleman entered into the hisory of the Irish church, and the various enactments for its gos;rnance, from the time of Henry VIII. to Mr. Goul burn's .et in 182,4. In conclusion he assured the house that their eticurrence in his resolutions would produce great good in Ireltid, and serve to reconcile the people of that country to the exitence for a time of the heavy burdens they were sub jected o. He then moved the following resolutions:-Ist. That tie tithe system in Ireland has been the fruitful source of miseryand crime, and should be totally extinguished. 2dly. That alerts' tax ought to be substituted for payment of the present incumbents, and for the support of the Protestant establisment, and such other purposes of general uti l i t y as the legilature may deem necessary. Mr. lITTLETON did not think it necessary to enter into any lengtheed reply to the observations of the lion. gentleman, for althougl he would be the last person to object to any hon. inembeibringing forward any measure for the removal of Irish grievatcs, yet he could not but express his opinion that the present was a most inconvenient opportunity for the introduc tion of hese resolutions. He would beg to ask whether any one sutect had occupied so much of the time of the house as this ver one of Irish tithes? He thought not; fur not only had it seen discussed on the coercion bill most fully, but the other tly upon the Church Temporalities Bill, when his noble friend Lord Althorp) had given every opportunity to hon. membes to make any proposition they thought proper, as well as givesnotice subsequently of a resolution relative to its ap• plicatit to lay impropriations. (Hear, hear.) There did, therefoe, appear no necessity for the present motion at this period'of the session. Far was he, however, from asserting that upn some future occasion it might not be for the benefit of the enpire at large that other measures should be introduced, but he lust also say that in the next year we should be in a better stuation to come to a calm judgment upon this topic, as by Novoribernext the occupying tenants would be relieved from allcontact with the tithe-owners, and all future leases would eempt them immediately from the payment of tithes. With repect to the qtfestion of tithes, he wished to say a few words. He earnestly trusted that the Irish gentlemen would not be i;disposed to make some sacrifice on this subject (hear, hear) or it was only by the instrumentality of their aid that the Brits!' Parliament could effect a satisfactory arrangement of the question. If they were determined to oppose every mea sure, wlatever its nature might be, he would net say that in such cas he despaired of seems ' any satisfactory arrangement come toibut he believed it could not be produced without much confusics, and, he feared, the spilling of blood. (Hear, hear.) But, whatever form the property of tithe might assume,—and he admitsd that it was a fair question whether it should remain as tithe,—that property mutt as such be maintained; for no indi viduals ha a right to that which belonged to the church, or, if not to the church, belonged, as all men must admit, to the state. (" Hear, hear," re-echoed from the opposition benches.) That property Nes not the property of individuals, and the law which protectet it must be asserted and maintained. (Hear, hear.) The rigit lion. gentleman concluded by moving the previous question. Mr. F. O'Cotseon denied that the property of tithe stood on the same foundation as other property. Ihe former was entirely created Ls the law, but the latter was only protected by the law. He could'not consent to give to the clergy the average of seven years of very high prices, but he had no objection to the appli cation of a portion of the revenue derived from tithe to state Purpesess kissehould like to sea tithe altogether abolished, and a land tali' substituted. (Hear, hear.) Mr. M. O'FEIIRALL said that the government had deceived the people of Ireland by declaring that tithe should be extin guished. He expressed his objection to the bill passed last year for the commutation of tithe. Its chief defect was that it made commutation compulsory. Mr. STANLEY thought there could be no objection to the first resolutice, because every one agreed that the tithe system had been a Nara source of crime and misery in Ireland. But the questiorowas, whether the system as it now existed was ob noxious to this imputation? He thought that the resolution of to-night was rendered totally unnecessary by the alteration which it was now proposed to make in the measure introduced during tie present session by his Majesty's ministers. (Loud cries of Hear.") He would not enter at all at present into the last sart of the hon. gentleman's resolution, and for this reason, teat the discussion on it, though repeatedly taken dur ing the interminable debates on the subject of Irish tithes, had better bc reserved to a more fitting opportunity. Ile contended that thehouse ought not to divert the property of the church of Ireland away from that church until they saw that the purposes of the Church were fully answered. (Cries of " Hear," from Mr. O'Cmnell and the Irish members in his immediate vicinity) The object of the Irish Church Reform Bill was to produce a better aid more equitable division of the revenues of that church among tae ministers of it. (Hear, hear.) The distribution of the surplus, if surplus there should be, was still left open for the con4deration of Parliament. (Hear, hear.) Upon that subject se had his own opinions; what those opinions were he would not-state at present; all he would say was that the sub ject was still an open subject. He cordially agreed with his right hat- friend the Secretary for Ireland in saying that he should vote for the previous question, because he thought that in continuing the present discussion they were raising not merely ett irrelevant and useless debate, but also one that was absolutey mischievous and injurious to the tranquillity and all the best nterests of Ireland. (Loud cheering from nearly every part of tae house.) M r , aCoNeteee said that lie saw in the speech of the right hon. gertleman who had just sat down the same unrelenting disposition towards Ireland, the same inflexible determination not to c oncede anything to his unfortunate country, which had always Sitherto distinguished the right hon. gentleman. He hoped that iu consequence of that speech the government wouldinfuture exiilude the right hon. gentleman from all inter ference la the affairs of Ireland. (Cheers from the Irish mem bers nee! Mr. O'Connell, echoed back derisively from all parts of the ' R use, and particularly from the ministerial benches.) Ireland vas not a colony, or a province—it was an integral part of the erspire; and he therefore trusted that the right hon. Se cretary Dr Ireland would take his department into his own im mediate teeping, and would not give it up to the management of the right hon. Secretary for the Colonies. (hear.) He could no; help admiring the wonderful special pleading of the Colonial Secretary. The Colon ial Secretar y had not, he said, used the term "extinction of tithes" in its ordinary significa tion—no. he had qualified it; he had spoken only of the " ex tinction of the tithe system." What had the late right hon. Secretars for Ireland done for tint unhappy country ? Nothing, or worsethan nothing. He had inteodueed two bills on the HOUSE OF LORDS, TUESDAY, JULY 2. Lord SUFFIELD presented.a petition from certain inhabitants of the town of Kingston-upon-Hull, on a subject which he was sure must create sympathy in every part of civilized Europe,— he alluded to the present abject state of Poland. He felt great confidence that the subject would not escape the attention of his Majesty's ministers, and that., from a principle of policy as well as of humanity, they would forward those objects which the petitioners had greatly at heart. '1 he petitioners prayed their lordships to interpose with the government, and to en deavour to induce them to unite with France for the purpose of restoring Poland to its former flee state.—Laid on the table. The Duke of WELLINGTON moved for certain returns relative to the territorial revenues of India.— Ordered. Adjourned. - HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tuzspay, JULY 2. The gallery was opened at a quarter-past twelve. On the motion of Mr. O'CONNELL the City of Dublin Steam Company bill was read a third time without any opposition. Several clauses were subsequently proposed by Lord SAN DON, which, after a short discussion, were added to the bill by way of rider. Lord SWINDON presented a petiticn from the general prac titioners of Liverpool against the Apothecaries' Bid; and a petition from the public notaries ot Liverpool against the rotaries' Public Bill. Mr. IIUME presented a petition from a lady residing at 7, Leicester-square, for the total repeal of the house and window tax. He expressed his warm concurrence in the prayer of the petition. The hon. member also presented a petition from a parish in Aberdeenshire against lay patronage in Scotland, and several petitions complaining or the laws of the courts of conscience. The Speaker retired from the chair at ten minutes past three. The Speaker entered the house s'iortly after fire o'clock; but in consequence of there being a call of the house the gallery was not opened until half-past five Mr. BUCKINGHAM moved_plusuant to notice. for "a select lk subject of tithes. He was told that his first bill, the bill of last session, would increase the disturbances of Ireland; but he would not heed those who told him so; and what had been the result? Blood had been shed iu various parts of the country, and no tithes could be collected except at the point of the bayonet. It appeared as if he had thrown Ireland into disturb ance in order to introduce his favourite measure, the coercion bill. - By the aid of that bill tithe had been collected with greater rigour than before, and as the last feather broke the camel's back, so the last exertion of the power of that bill had driven the unarmed peasantry of Ireland to resist its execution at Middleton, even when enforced by detachments of police and military. After a general contrast of the speech of Mr. Lit tleton with that of Mr. Stanley, he said that the former gentle man had held out to the people of Ireland the prospect that tithe should be extinguished altogether, when in stepped the latter gentleman and said, " Oh, no! they must be kept up to pay the present incumbents of the church of Ireland their full salaries." (Cries of "Oh !" and cheers.) Mr. LEFROY contended that the Roman Catholics of Ireland did not pay for the support of the Protestant church establish ment of that country. What injustice was there in letting the pro testant proprietors of Ireland_pay for the establishment of their own religion ? 19-20ths of the land of Ireland was in the hands of Protestants. (Hear, hear!) Tithes fell in the long run upon the landlords, and, the Protestants being the landlords . , thus contributed to the support of their own religion. (Hear, hear!) Besides, it was not fair to consider the church of Ireland merely in relation with the population of that country. That establish ment was the church establishment of a large majority of the empire, and was therefore entitled to reverence and respect. He maintained that Mr. O'Connell had greatly exaggerated the number of benefices in Ireland in which no service had been, performed lot—the last three years. That honourable and learned gentleman had confounded parishes with benefices. Now, everybody knew that there had been in various parts of Ireland numerous unions of parishes, and he had no doubt that when those unions were taken into consideration, it would be found that though there were many parishes, there were but few benefices in which divine service had not been performed during the last three years. Lord ALTHORP said that he should not have troubled the house upon this occasion had not the hon. and learned member for Dublin made upon his right hon. friend the Secretary for the Colonies, one of the most unfair and unprovoked attacks which he had ever heard in the whole course of his.parliament ary experience. (Loud cheers.) He could conceive no other cause for that attack than this, that the hon. and learned gen tleman had been so often engaged in contest with his right hon. friend, and had been so often worsted by him in debate, that there rankled in his mind a sense of his Own inferiority (cheers), and that, therefor; an opportunity having been offero him to attack his right hon. friend, when his right hon. friend could have no opportunity to iply, he was to be attacked whether he had given cause for attack or not. The hon. and learned gen tleman had also taunted his right hon. friend with interfering in the affairs of Ireland, now that he was removed from the Irish to the Colonial-office. Now, he had yet to learn that his right hon. friend, in accepting the Secretaryship of the Colonies, had given up any of his rights as a member of the imperial parlia ment. As a member of the imperial parliament it was part of his duty to attend to the affairs of Ireland, and if he were to fail in that part of his duty, he knew no man more likely to make it matter of charge against his right honourable friend than the hon. and learned gentleman . He did not feel it ne cessary to say a word more in reply to the speech of the hon. and learned gentleman, as he had seldom or ever heard a speech so full of invective and so destitute.of argument. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BARRON, in reply, contended that hon. gentlemen on the opposite (the ministerial) side had put forth the .same prin ciples as those contained in his resolutions, and he asked how th r ey could with consistency oppose his, who had supported the vote of Thursday or Friday week. His resolutions were mode rate, and did not even go far enough for the feelings of the peo ple of Ireland. The tithe bill of last year would not give any relief to lessees of land, and five-sixths of the tenants of the south of Ireland would still be obliged to pay their tithe to the clergy. It was to prevent a repetition of the animosity, of the riots, and bloodshed which had prevailed during the last cen tury that he brought forward these resolutions. He wanted not to deprive the working clergy of any, thing they had; on the contrary, he would double the income of those, but he would cut away the incomes of all who did no service. The hon. mem ber then observed, that after the decision of the house on the 147th clause, he would not press the question to a division. It was understood that the motion and amendment were with drawn, but no question to that effect was put from the chair. CHURCH TEMPORALITIES' (IRELAND) BILL. Lord ALTHORP expressed a hope that as it was too late at that hour to proceed with the further consideration of the Church Temporalities' (Ireland) Bill, the house would consent to pro ceed with it in the early sitting of Thursday. (Cries of "Oh," and "Hear.") The ground on which he made the suggestion was that there was now very little private business to be done, and that it could not interfere with petitions, there were so many other days on which they could be presented. It was understood that the bill was fixed fur the early sitting of Thursday. NEW HOUSE OF COMMONS. _ Mr. HUME brought forward the motion of which he had given notice on this subject. The hon. member quoted the report of the committee to which this subject had been referred, and which declared that no alterations could make the present house fit for the convenient accommodation of the present number of mem bers, and that it was therefore expedient that a new house should be erected. This was the opinion not•only of the com mittee but also of a great many members of the house. He would confidently appeal to the members of even the least ex perience in that house whether it was in its present state fit for the accommodation of members, or for the convenient dis charge of public business. Let any man look at the state of that bar, and say whether in the manner in which it was crowded night after night it was possible to give proper attention to what was going on. It was now twelve hours since he had entered the house that day, and it was often that he had to attend 14, 15, 16, and sometimes 17 hours out of the 24, and he would ask whether, in the fatigue consequent on such a long attendance, members ought to be exposed to such an atmosphere, so little congenial to health as that which they breathed there ? For the sake of health, then, they ought not to be crowded together in such a state as they were at present in that house. The suggestion of a new house was not a thought of the present day. In the year 1739, nearly a century ago, and before the 100 members for Ire land were added to the English members, a plan of anew house was laid before the then Speaker, Mr. Onslow, and by that plan it was estimated that the expense would not exceed £55,000; but the expense of the plan recommended by the committee would not exceed much more than half that sum. It might per haps he objected that even this was too great an expense.— (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) It certainly was something new to hear from some of the hon. members near him (some of the supporters of the late administration) anything which in dicated that they had taken on themselves the office of protectors of the public purse,—an office to which they had heretofore not been much accustomed; but when he found that many of those hon. members had voted a million of money for the repairs of WindSor Castle, and he believed not less than £600,000 for the building up and pulling down repairs of Buckingham-palace, he hoped that they would not object to so small an outlay as from £35,000 to £40,000 for a convenient building for the representatives of the Commons of England, (Hear, hear.) — It was proved in evidence on the statements of the most com petent judges that the present house would not afford convenient accommodation to more than 350 persons ; how, then, could the business be performed with any ease or comfort to hon. mem bers when there were 400, 500, or as it sometimes happened, 600 present? He need go no further than to refer to what took place that evening at five o'clock in the passage between the door and the bar, where the crowd was so great that it was im possible to pass in or out without the greatest inconvenience. The same inconvenience was felt on every night of a full at tendance, and he need only appeal to those who were present on divisions of 500 or more members for the fact of the annoy ance suffered by the crowded state of the house. In the year 1794, George 111. directed that a plan of a new House of Lords, as well as of a new House of Commons should be laid before him, and such a plan was prepared by Sir John Soane, but cir cumstances had prevented any further proceeding in it. The committee was unanimous in the recommendation of a new house. The hon. member concluded by moving two resolu tions to the effect-Ist. That the present House of Commons did not afford adequate accommodation, due regard being had to the health and convenience of members, and the despatch of public business, and that it was therefore necessary to erect a new building. 2dly. That an humble address be presented to his Majesty, praying that his Majesty would 'be graciously pleased to direct a new House of Commons to be erected, Par liament being prepared to place at his Majesty's disposal a sum of money sufficient to defray the expense of such building." It these resolutions should be agreed to, he intended to move on the first supply day that a sum not exceeding £35,000 be granted to his Majesty for the purpose of building a new House of Com mons. For his own part he should have been satisfied with £25,000, but named the larger sum in order to meet the wishes of others ; it being understood, however, that the am ount might be increased or diminished as the house should think proper. Colonel DAVIES rose to second the first resolution for the purpose of obtaining an opportunity to state in what respect he differed from his honourable friend. (Laughter.) No man could be more fulifsensible than himself of the defects and in convenience of the present building. Their result was most un favourable upon the proceedings of the house. A stranger in troduced to that place for the first time, and witnessing the dis order which prevailed, and the undignified conduct of members, would naturally ask, "Is this the celebrated House of 'Coin- Are thera_ -theznanter spirits of the ag,c-?" . The-appear ance of the house was frequently ratter that of a debating club or a bear-garden than of a deliberative assembly. (" Oh, oh l") The noise was excessive, and members, instead of attending to the proceedings, • amused themselves with talking, or lying stretched at full length asleep upon the benches. (Laughter.) A great deal of this arose from the bad construction and want of proper accommodation of the house. He could net agree with his -honourable friend in his proposed. site for the new House of Commons, and thought that an entire change of situ ation, to St. James'a Palace, for instance, would be advan tageous, and infinitely more convenient to all members who were not of the legal profession. The honourable and gallant member referred to the report, and quoted evidence in support of this opinion. In conclusion he stated his intention t o move as an amendment on the second resolution, that the subject be referred to a select committee to take into consideration the various plans proposed, and the evidence contained in the re- port. Lord ALTlionp said that hon. members spoke of theunhealthi ness of the house, but he did not know that there was anything actually in the house that rendered the sitting there unwhole some. (Mr. Warburton here reminded the noble lord that he sat on the floor.) He certainly sat on the floor at present, but he had sat for years where his hon. friend opposite now sat. He apprehended that sitting to very late hours for successive nights anywhere would be injurious to health. (Hear.) He was ready to admit that on certain occasions, when there hap pened to be very full houses, inconvenience was experienced from the size of the house, but for the average number of mem bers that attended during the session the accommodation was amply sufficient. The noise and interruption that were occa sionally experienced in the present house had been complained of; but he was not sure, that, if the size of the house should be extended, when the house would not be so full, there would not be greater noise. He confessed that he did not feel a strong opinion on this subject. He thought that business could be conducted perfectly to the satisfaction of the country in the pre sent building. (Hear.) Still, if it should be the opinion of the majority of the house that an alteration should take place in the present building, he would not throw any obstruction or difficulty in the way of effecting such alteration. As his hon. friend said he would take the sense of the house on the subject, and as he (Lord Althorp) did not think that any inconvenience existed to render it necessary to make an alteration in the pre sent building, he would vote against the resolution. (Hear.) Mr. MILDNIAY was opposed to the proposition. Sir G. PHILLIPS thought that the house was not sufficiently large for the accommodation of members. Sir R. PEEL would not consent to - make an alteration in the present House of Commons on such a very imperfect repoit as that which had been presented sn this subject. Of all the re ports of committees that he had 'ever read he Would say that this was the most imperfect, and, with every respect for the chairman, the most discreditable report he had seen. (A laugh.) The report, in the first instance, expressed the opinion of the committee—an opinion which the members of the house could as well have formed without the assistance of a committee — that the present house did not afford adequate accommodation for the members ; but when the committee came to decide the question as to the erection of a new IluUse of Co . ok • .11144,. Jui.v 5, 1833• 22 plans had been laid before them, they were not able to form a decisive opinion as to any one of them. It was ludic rous to hear all the faults of the House of Commons laid to the account or the building. There was, it appeared, often great talking, sometimes a considerable buz, and not unfrequently, Julio!! coughing ; but they were the master spirits of the age,_ an d, ot course, all those things were the fault of the present Hous e ot Commons. (A laugh.) There was no doubt that the p resent house was not adequate to the accommodation of 658 members, but the real question was whether it was not amply sufiient for the accommodation of , the average number of membefrsc that attended in four out of the five nights in the week. If a larger house were built, it would not be as well calculated for the or dinary discharge of business, and besides, the hearing in a larger building might not be as good. Mr. Hone replied, and the house divided, when the number s were— 70 --• • • • •• •• •• •• •• 154 Majority against the motion .. 8 4 h The other orders of the day were then disposed of, an d t e house adjourned at a quarter Fast 2 o'clock. UNITED STATES, NEW YORK, June 8, 1833.—We noticed a few days since the fact (as stated in the Montreal Daily - Advertiser) of a large quantity of wheat having been taken out of bond at Liverp o 9' for the purpose of being shipped to Canada. The inducements to this operation arc, that foreign wheat cannot .at present be entered for,consumption in England, the high duty amounting to an entire prohibition ; but the same wheat may be import ed into Canada for consumption at a very moderate duty. A:4o' flour manufactured in Canada is admitted into Great Brita.ii and her colonies at. a low rate of dut ; consequently, aa "b e wheat of Canada may be made y into flour, ana sent to those markets, while its place for consumption may be supplied by the introduction of foreign. Indeed, the same foreip,a wheat ma be aain , sent back - to England after being ground int° flour:—the officers of the customs in Canada having decided• that flour manufactured in Canada is "Canada flour" without reference to the origin of the wheat. We have now before us a, circular recently issued by Messrs. Horatio Gates 'and Co., 0' Montreal, which states, that fine flour manufactured from the wheat exportedos above, may be sold there at five dollars per barrel, and afford a fair profit. As an evidence that trade 1 moving into the channel thus indicated, we notice, that no con siderable part of the cargoes of ships recently cleared at Quebec for Great Britain has consisted of flour. Verily, legislation upon trade produces singular effects. DREADFUL ATTEMPT Al' MURDER AND SUICI AT HAMMERSMITH. Between ten and elven o'clock on Friday night consider able alarm was excited among the inhabitants of St. Alban 's place, Hammersmith, by a young man, named Charles fteY", • colds, discharging a pistol at the head of a female, nam e "; Sarah Parry, between nineteen and twenty years of age, a nd afterwards attempting to destroy himself by the same means. -- The following are, we believe, correctparticulars of the tragedy: —lt appears that Reynolds and the female Parry lived together in the family of Dr. Wetherell, at Hampstead, the former as footman, and the latter as housemaid. It was shortly observed that they became attached to each other, and as nothing impro per was expected to result from the attention which Reynolds exhibited towards the young woman, we believe the family placed no obstacle iristheir way, but allowed them to continue their courtship. Seieral mouths rolled on in this manner; at length there appeared considerable anxiety and agitation in both par ties, but the actual cause could not be devised ; it, however, elided iu the discharge of Reynolds and Parry, about six weeks since , from Dr. Wetherell's service. The female then went to r esido at her sister's, Mrs. Davis, No. 2, St. Alban's-place, Hammer smith, and the young man at‘No. 2, Norfolk-street, Islington- That they occasionally . met each other subsequently to thei r leaving their situations is beyond question, and their repeated interviews evidently tended, from some cause which preyed upon both their minds;, to hasten the melancholy transaction which we are now about to record. On Friday Reynolds visited Hammersmith, and was observed by Mrs. Davis to be exceed ingly dejected. He paced about in front of the house before he entered, when he asked if Sarah was at home ? An answer the affirmative was given. He then entered the kitchen, and produced three pistols, at the same time saying there was one for each of them. In au instant after he presented one at the head of the young woman Parry, who raised her hands, and shrieked for assistance. He tired, and the contents, an iron slug, perfo rated her neck, and _shattered the fore finger of her left hand, which was placed near the spot at the time. She immediately fell to the ground, the blood flowing from the wound most co piously. Mrs. Davis escaped, and some men, who had been at tending a sale of furniture in the house that day, hearing the report of fire-arms, ran to the spot, and discovered the unfortu nate woman lying near the feet of Reynolds, who was himself in the act of placing the muzzle of another pistol to his head. On e of the workmen rushed forward, and attempted to arrest his arm, but before he could succeed in doing so Reynolds pulled the trigger, when the contents of the pistol passed in a slanting di rection upwards, through the corner of the right temple : find-. ing that the pistol had not taken the desired effect, Reynolds rushed up stairs into the third floor, and actually threw himself out of the window into the yard below. In an instant, surprising as it may appear, he was on his legs again, and climbed a wail to the roof of an outhouse, where he became exhausted, and was taken. Surgical aid was prompt in attendance, and the wounds of both parties were dressed, after which they were conveyed in a coach to St. George's Hospital, where the finger of the female was amputated. The police took charge of the papers, Sa., found on Reynolds, and a policeman was left at the hospital to look after him, in case he might attempt to escape. A letter and other papers were found on Reynolds, of which the following are literal copies : " Dear Father,—Threw the dreadful charecter that Sarah gave too you about me I felt convinced that I never should be in your e y es what I was before, therefore I never should fee l happy in this world when hated by my parents. I thus owo how I was connected with Sarah Perry ;_ the wretched woman wanted to do me all the ingery she could, all threw her know ing; how she 'was to be herself. She was the mother and the murderer of her own child. That iof course was connected in, for I was the burryer of it. I.screened her in every way I could, for I nor she never was happy after that dreadful time -- it was some time ago—nobody ever knew of it but our two selves • and after that I persuaded her not to let her han ds commit any more crimes, but she did, and would have tran sported me. I pointed out that and other crimes we had com mitted. A few nights after that she made an attempt to commit suicide—she had got a rope and other things; I watched her and took those things from her, and made her promise me not to think of such a thing, and she did not. I took good care of that ; it is some time ago ; and the time I was missing from n 4 bed at Mr. Wetherell's was threw a similar occurrence. never got in . disgrace at Wetherell's but when threw her, all through that ungrateful wretch. Look at the thanks I had for, it—she never could have been wright, or she never would have made that fool of herself. When I first came home i ad made' up my mind to tell all against her. I told my father I co uld' injure her very much, but lie told me he should think me a child if I should say anything against Sarah. Then I said,' what was I to do ? 'He told me to return good for evil —to suffer her to send me out of my native country, or go as 3 sailor, after I paid her all she demanded, or he should hate m© for ever if I injured her; and I never told him or anybody anX thing about her. I never could suffer her to do as she like The night she and me walked together along Islington, 1 told her of what awfull crimes had been committed. She entreate d of me not to say a word. She said she would rather expire an.- how than by public justice. i told her she ought to think of raei at that time. She said she was persuaded so to do, as I h ail told her before my father and her sister I would never say $ word. She said she should fear me, she would put an end to her existence, or rather I would shoot her rather than say $ word about anything. She never would tell her sister or all: body—she would of murdered herself—everybody would of sa id I was the cause of it—rather than live iu this after her death as I have lived with her, I would dye as I have dyed with Sarah -- for for I still have a gratification in-knoing that 1 did my best her—l hope we both share the same fate, for in life and death I was with Sarah Perry—l felt that i ought to acknowledg e some of my own guilt in the hour of death." There was no signature to the above, nor was it addressed to any person. The following was addressed to Mrs. Davis, and found among, the other papers:l— -" Mrs. Davis.—Do not expose those papers in the red pocket book, for it is trew by Ileavens, to trew. Sarah was the firsttor prepare for death and the first to flinch from it. I was to , 2,„ ashamed of her and myself. I made one attempt the Almi e " said not one without the other. "Behold in your unconscious grove " The victims of ill-fated love " Heard you that agonizing throe " Sure this is not romantic love "The golden day of joy is over "And now we part to meet no more. toi l "What I have stated in these lines is true so help my t-iteitii In my dying hour I call God to witness and I hope God v, forgive S. P. and C.R." On inquiring at the hospital, we ascertained that the unf . o- - 4 tunate pair arc not in immediate danger. Mrs. Davis lids charged the man. Reynolds with wilfully and maliciously she° , ing at Sarah Parry with a pistol, with an intent to kill heu Reynolds will he examined at Queen-square as soon as he ea be removed without danger.—Observer. On Monday Mt. M'Manus, the inspector of the T division e f , olice, at Kensington, attended before Mr. Gregorie, the sittilt. magistrate, and informed hint that Charles Reynolds, the y ouLs mac who had been apprehended by their division, on a ellsl,'„ of wilfully and maliciously shooting at, and wounding wit'e loaded pistol, Sarah Parry, at Hammersmith , was unable to brought before him on account of wounds he had given hirose; Both Reynolds and Sarah Parry were still in St. George o , Hospital. The wound which Reynolds gave himself by fir :. another loaded pistol at his head, after he had fired at PacritlJot appears to have taken a slanting direction. His left eve out, and he has received several severe bi uises about the be nd from jumping out of one of the up-stairs windows, when he feß,', / i,: he had in neither instance completed the dreadful deed. o f head, in fact, is completely covered with wounds, but nee:l c d them are considered mortal by the medical men who a t i ' e e to upon him. On Monday he was rather worse, and u nab speak. The unhappy woman appeared to be much mo re e e posed, and conversed very rationally. th° Directions were then given to bring the parties up w hen surgeon at the hospital thought that they could be remove LONDON GAZETTE.—TuEsDAY, JULY 2' INSOLVENTS, Thomas Saville Flude, Mincing-lane, wine-broker. John Russell Case, Hunter-street, Brunswick-square, grocer. BANKRUPTCY ENLARGED. John Kaberry, Leeds, leather-cutter, from July 9 to AuVs t 6. BANK RUPTS. Joseph Strangman, Queen-street, Cheapside, fl our -f a ctor. ur ic' Thomas Rovedino, Manchester-street, Alanchester-square , publisher. Henry Holt, Somerset-street, Portman-square, bookseller. ",00d' Joseph Alexander Taylor, George-street, Hanover-squa re, ing and lodging-house-keeper. Delemain, Wells-street, Marylehone, wine-rnerellOt. Richard Stephens, Newgate-street, victualer. d ole' Thomas Christmas, New Church-street, Lifson-grove, flo ur- John Roberts, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, linen-draper. James Moore, Manchester, glass-merchant. Samuel Peel, Leeds, plaid-manufacturer. DIVIDENDS. jr/ , July 23, J. and W. S. Tonge, Sittingbourne, Kent, lin"; c ilru P i , —July 23, T. Baines, Piccadilly-, sendsman.—July 22, lil Ramsey, Essex, cattle-dealer.—July 23, H. I. Lewis, low-chandler. —July 24, T. E. Hulkes, Rochester, Kent, nlih e L% r, 24, W. Oaks, Houndsditch , coppersmith.—July 27, T. W. S ,l " To e Bailey; oilinan. — July 23 , J. Gauger, Beaminster, —July 23, 11. Gardner, Paradise -street, Rotherhithe, cribinets_'oolieSe —July 25, R. and T. Coulthard, Crown-street, Finsbury , drapers.—July 12, R. Hardcastle, West Smithfield, pluniberAct,l_tc, 31, T. Hardcastle, Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire, chemist.--;;1, I. c , 30, T. Wood, Cheltenhana, upholsterer.—August 6, F. Balky, ill, mouth, corn-factor.—July 29,W. Blyth, Birmingham, fi1e:4"1„,..0r-,, toret—July 27, M. Meek, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, liP e in fie'', chant. —July 27, W. Lees, Newton-moor, Cheshire, cotton-sPooptevi., July 24, R. Green, Bristol, hosier.—July 24, J. Twemlo;r f , Lancashire, cotton-spinner.—July 13, W. and S. Lane, ironmongers. CERTIFICATES, JULY 23. W. and W. Harris, Liverpool liiien-drapers.—J. Bruntorl!_e,er'... wick, Durham, ship-builtlet—T. Brookes, Ifereford, botel-1"0: T. Scott, Birmingham, merchant.—G. Ryland, Birnling l ' 3 l er. --. 4 1, salter.— 11. V. Thredder, jun., Barking, Essex, smack,col j, . 1 " I ee, Henrietta-street, Covent-garden, commission -age nt ' Somersetsidre, woolion-draper,