The Sun. — London, England, 1853-05-10 00:00:00

THE SHARE MARKETS. BRITISH RAILWAYS, RAlLwaas. Closing Prices Yesterday. Paid.' 00 8i all Aberdeen Ambg, Nottng. Bost & Eastn. Junet. Birmg. Wolyerh. & Stour Valley Birkenhd. Lancsh. & Cheshire Juliet Do. Chesh. Lt £5O and £25 Cons. Do., £2O Bristol and Exeter Caledonian Chester & Holyhead. Cork and Bandon—. Cork, Blackrock and Passage Dublin&Belfast June Dundee Per:l&Aber deen Juncjon Do. New East Anglian (X:',s L. and E. & L. & D.) Do. Do. (181. E.& H.) Eastern Counties Eastern Union, Class A. (late E. U. Sh.) Do. , do Do., B. and C East Lancashire East & West Ind. Dk & Binning. June Edinburgh & Glasgow Edin. and Peebles Prth. & Dundee Glasgow & S. Western Great Northern Stk IDo., A. Stock Do., B. Stock Great Southern and Western (Ireland) ,Great Western llrish South -Eastern Lancaster & Carlisle Do., Thirds 'Lancash.& Yorkshire Do., Fifths Do., Wst. Riding Un Leeds Northern Liv.C rsby.&Southpt London & Blackwell Loud. Tilb. & Sth end. Loud. Brigt. & S. Cat. London & N. Western Do., Fifths. Do. ,410 Sh. M. &B. C London & S. Western Do., £5O Do., £4O Louderry. &Coleraine Lndndrry. .& Ennisk. Manch. Shef. &Lincln Do., Man.& Lin. Un Midland Do. Binning. & Derby Midland G. West. (Ir.) Do. Shares Newcastle & Carlisle Newmarket Do. Bury Extension Newp, Aberg.&llfto Newry & Enniskillen Newry, Warrenpoint, Noand Restrevor rfolk Do., New Nort hn.Counties Un North British North Devon, No. 1 Do, No. 2 D. A Deferred Do., B Guaranteed North Staffordshire North Western N. & S. Westrn. June Oxford, Worcester, & W olverhampton Scottish Central Scotlish Midland Shre wsbury & Birm g . ri o., L. & N. Westn. G uaranteed Stock. Shrewsby.& Hereford S hrev.-sby. & Chester (Nor. W. Min.) ... Do. Halves do ..... Do Do. Oswestiy Shropshire Union South De von South Eastern South Wales S. Yorksh. River Dun Do. S tockton & Hartlepl Thames Haven Dock Vale d an Railway' of Neath Waterfd. & Kilkenny Waterford& Limerick West Cornwall imbl edon&Croydn Woodford York N ewCtl. &Be rw• Do, E xtensions 4 . N. E York & N. Mi dland 'REFERENI Aberdeen . Bits,& Ex. 4 p. e. e. c t N . 0 .• ..... e "°. 4 P. C. Sha res CaleCdonian £lO ester & Holyhead n Gu ar. 5 i per eent. l D undee, 5i p. c . u ttndee, Perth, and', E• Aberdeen Jun c ti on Aug. (705.) 6 p. c., (X 5), 7 per cent.' D O (x 7 17s), 7. p et. Eastern Counties Ex tension, 5 p. c. No.l Do., No. 2 Do., New 6 p. c. St Eastern Union Scrip Guar. 6 p er cent East Lancash. 6 p. cts Edinb. Prth.tk Dund Glasgow & S. Western Guar. 5 per cent Great Northn. 5 p. c Do. 5 p. c., Redeem at 10 p. c. prem IGt.S outim. &-Westn (Ireland) Eights, Gt: Westn. (Berks & Hants Ex. 5 p. c.) Great Western, fixed 4i per cent Lan. & York. F. £2O l l Do., 6 p. c., Stock London and Brighton Guaranteed 5 p. e Do. Pref. 5 p. c., St Do. Convertible, 5 p c., 1852 Do. New Guar. 6 p. c London &S. Western, Con. Thirds Londonderry & Coler A Shares Loildndry. & Ennisk A Shares. Manch. , Shef. ,& Shares, No. 1 Do., New, £lO • Do., ......... Marypt. & Carl. 4 p.c. Do. 4A per cent ......... ..... .••••••• Consol. 6 p. c. St- Do. Consol. Bristol & Birm. 6 per cent Ta o. Pref. 44 percent Norfolk Extension Do. Guar. 5i per ct Do. Waveney Valley 5 per cent North British North Staffordshire Oxford, Worcester, & Wo lverh..£ls,6p. c. 80. ........ Shrew. sbury & Birm New Guaranteed Shrewsby. & Chester Nor.W. Min), 3 p• c • Do. 5 per cent. South D evon Do. New S. Eastern (Reading Anu.) f£l Os. 6d. S.Yor ksh.4p.c.Gu ar . Waterfd. &link. 6p. e. York, Do Newcastle, and terwick, 4 p. c. Pref. . Yolc &N. dland, R. & S. Pur Michase Belgian Eastn. Junct. Charleroi dr Erquehn bijonand 13esanon Dutch Rhenish East Indian t'o. Extension Ort. Indian Peniula Ud. J uliet. of France Qt. Westn • of nada Ca Shares.. Lucca and ......... 5 Do (Rail ~per cent. pref •(Canal) • Do. ... • Ly on s • 110. 6p. cent Pref Madra s 7.7 ed "n. Mali bo. N (N amur w. & *Liege.. i interest ... to. (e.x inter li i ..... : Northern of France e• 20. 3 p. e. Eds. (rUIY• B. & ..Prof N.„°rwegianTrk.Pref rails and Lyons Paris and Orlea r rus Pais and Par. Rouen P a .. 5 a nd Strasbou• r . Q ris Cae n &Cherbrg Bone uebec & Richmond n and Sambre and Meuse.... Po. SA per cent. pref. outhern of France.. • trPper India Scrip . West Flanders.. .. . I f) 5i per c. P;ef. . • s \;western of France :z.zoeztzerlati d. 7i I 38 1 i i RAILWAYS_ Leasing Compans. Bedford and 'Loudon di N. West. Bletchley Birm. & guarapteu Do. without gr' Birm.Wolv. Dudley guar. Do.wthtguar. Buckghamsh. Clydesdale Jc. E. Lincoln. gr. 6 p. cent Glstr.&Dn.Fr Hrtlpl. Dk. d Railway iGt.Westn Do L. &N.W. ,Caledon... Gt.Notrhni Gt.Westn.' Yk. New. dr Berw I Y. &N. Do 14n11 & Selby. Do. A Shares. Do. Shares. Lon. & Greenw Do.Prefereuce Lowestoft gr. 4 per cent Do. 6 per et Manch.Bxton and .7•latlock ! Mieldksbro' & Redcar S. Eastern, Do IMidld.Bradfd. ,Northern and Easternsp.e. 'Do. 6 per c Do. Fixed sr. - 71." rest. & Wy:t. Do. Shares.' Roystn.&Hit. l Shef. Roth. Business this stay. Goole g. 5. p. S. Stafforash WearValleygr 6 per cent Do Wilts 4iSonirstl Norfolk Do Lu. &N. W & Midld Stckton & Darlingt. Midland iE. Count ;Do 'Do L. &N. W drLn&Yk Do Gt. Northn Do Lancash.di Yorksh MrMelean i , Stockt. dz Darling Do Gt.Westn THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MAY 10, 1853. upon-Trent Improvement (No. 2), and Rochdale Im provement (No. 2). ROYAL ASSENT. The Usher of the Black Rod appeared to summons the Commons to hear the Royal assent given to certain bills in the other house, a list of which will be found in our Lords' report. 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I all !100 all 100 113 100 100 18f 9A all Closing Prices Yeste: day. iD o . o . ID LO7 -109 54 - 56 150 - 152 33 - 34 [l2 - 114 56 - 57 27 -28 14 - 14 26 - 27 3 - 31 :Ca 7: iiiB 65 - 67 151 - 153 151 - 153 i as 33 -- 34 Mi -- 1063 MINES. 1 all Agua Fria lOs all Anglo Californian — a p 10 2 Australasian.. par— .t p 2 4 20 5 Australian 1 all Australian Cordillera 4 a p 1 all Australian Freehold. id ar 1 1 all Ave Maria 1 all Baden (Gd. Duchy of) par - p I all British Austrln. Gold 4 • p 20 13.5 British Iron 8 1 35 244 Brazilicai Dup. (issued at £5 pin.) 5 54 30 all Do. Cocaes & Cuiaba 4 • 5 20 15 Do. St. John Del Roy 30 —3l 31 all Carson's Creek A 4 p 40 all Cobre Copper 464 474 6 1 Colonial Gold l4 —24 p 3 ... 14 Copiapo B4 9 8i St. all CopperMinersof Eng 7O 80 25 all Do. Preference 8 9 p 5 all English and Austin Copper Smeltg. Co l4 1 d 20 all General l5 —l7 2 all Great Nugget Vein li 2 p 3 all Great Polgooth 1 all Lake Bathurst par -- p d 1 all Liberty par— . p 14 1 all Lond. &Califon). Gold Quartz Crush. Co 3 4 1 all Mariquita Ad par 10 9 Mexican &S. Americ 8 84 1 all New Granada P 1 all Nouveau Monde ll4 1 p 5 1 Port Philip par— p 1 all Quartz Rock p 1 4 50 all Rhymney Iron 24 —26 15 Do. New 7 8 30 10/ Santiago de Cuba 1 all South Australian Ad— 3 p 14 10 7 Tin Croft 9 —ll 284 all United Mexican 5 54 54 a 1 all Waller par p 1 all West Granada _ „. Ad p 1 all Weal Mariposa A p 1 all Y - aba A f P JOINT-STOCK BANKS. 40 all 'Australasia B6 -- 87 864 3 50 all British N. American 20 2 Chrtd. Bnk. of India, Australia, & China 4 a p 100 25 Colonial ••• 100 20 Commercial of Lon-, don .. ••• ... 10 English Scottish and Australian l4 lip 114 20 124 Lond. Chart. Bk. of Australia 3 —34 p :10 20 London and County 50 10 Loudon Joint Stock ... 100 20 Lond. & Westminster 20 2 London Bank of ' Aus tralia and India ' 4 d— par 24 a 50 224 National of I • land_ 25 all Oriental 33::. _lc of Corporation 504-514 xn 524 a now 25 5 Do. New • ••• 100 25 Provincial of Ireland, 10 all Do. New I 184 5 1 Royal Australn.Bkg. & Gold Imp. Co d— par 25 25 South Australia 25 all Union of Australia 774 784 ... 24 Do. New 8 9 50 10 Union of London_ 40 all Union of Madrid ••• MISCELLANEOUS. 100 35 Australian Agricult Bl 83 82§ 20 8 Austrlasn.Pc c. Mail 10 6 Australn. Royal Mail . . 381 Brit. Americo. Land' 75 78 100 324 Canada 65 70 5 5 Crystal Palace 4 2 Crystal Pal. of Franco' 14 20 1 Eastern Steam — ••• 1 1 Electric. Teleg. of Ir — 15 14 Gen. Steam Navigat 50 General Screw Steam.! 20 5 Irish Beetroot Sugar . 1 all Nat. Pat. Steam Fuel 10 2 Netherlands Land ' 20 7 ;Nrth .of Europe Steam, 50 all Peninsular & Oriental 854 6 50 25 Do. Do. • ! 474 100 GO Royal Mail Steant ' 25 25 South Austral. Land 47 49 47 1 1 Submar. Telegraph, ' •.• 5 2 Universal Emigration and Col oui sat ion 100 284 Van Diemen's Land.: 19 20 194 LLOYD'S SIIIPPIAG-(THIS DAY.) LONDON, May 10.—Wind this day at Noon, N.W. ; moderate breeze and cloudy, but inclining to be fine, and the barometer rising. OFF DOVER, May 9.—Lydfoolue, Bahia, for Stockholm. COWES, May 9.—Wind, W.S.W. Arrived—Norma, Za~tzibar, and sailed for Hamburgh • Meneola, Havannah. M PORTSMOUTH, ay 9.—Wind, W.N.W., blowing hard. SOUTHAMPTON, May 9.—Wind, N.W. Sailed—Tay (s), Brazils ; Argo (a), Australia ; Lady Kennaway, Adelaide, South Australia. _ _ . FALMOUTH, May 9.—Off Port—St. Thomas Packet, Arecibo, Harriet Ls4,os, and sailed for Hamburgh. PLYMOUTH, May 9.—Wind, N.W., squally. Sailed— Roxburgh Castle, Port Philip. BRISTOL, May 9.—Wind, N.W. Arrived—Sarah Maria Ann, Rio Grande ; Nuttano (?), do. ; Worthy of Devon, New York. SUNDERLAND, May 9.—Wind, N. Sailed—Joy, Quebec. SWANSEA, May O.—Wind, N.N.W. Arrived—Lady Prudhoe, Coquimbo ; Underley, St. Jago de Cuba. NEWPORT, May 9.—Wind, N.W. Sailed—Amphetrite, Wilmington ; Andover, New York ; Donegal, Quebec ; Florist, do. QUEENSTOWN, May S.—Wind, N.W. Arrived—Scio, Rio Grande ; Adelina, Barba foes, and sailed for Limerick ; Mary Henny, Liverpool, for Pugwash (crew disorderly). WATERFORD, May 9.—The Joseph and Mary, of Dun garvon, is leaky, having been on shore. NEW YORK, April 22.—The Kate, Mazatlan to Eng land, has put into Panama in distress. The Persian, of Baltimore, Havre to this port, which was on shore on Fore Island, 15th inst., will be a wreck. MARKET .NEWS-(THIS DA Y.) COLONIAL. SUGAR.—The market continues good, with a fair export demand. Refined has been taken by home dealers at pre vious rates. The qur.: City of British Plantation landed last week at the East and West India Docks was 1,981 hhds, 176 tierces, 503 barrels: there were taken for home consumption 1,196 bhds, 34 tierces, 514 barrels. The stock in the same places is 5,948 hluls, 954 tierces, 1,159 barrels. COFFEE.—In Native Ceylon there is no alteration, and the supply does not increase. There is a fair demand for Plantation at previous rates. Other sorts are firm. RUM.—The quantity landed last week at the East and West India Docks, was 553 puns 103 hhds ; there were taken for home consumption, 181 puns 14 hhds, and ex ported 140 puns 349 hhds. The stock in the same places is 7,641 puns 632 hhds. TALLOW.—P.Y.C. is 47s to 47s 3d per cwt. on the spot, and town 49s 3d, being rather firmer. TEA.--There is scarcely such an active demand, but o d sound Congou remains at lld per lb. COTTON.—The market has been dull, at former terms. - --_ —Meadow h a y, 3/ 10s to 4/ 14s • clover HAY MARKETS. IT dit S t M o,4 H / F t L. to 51 108 ; and straw, 1/ 8s to 1/ 14s per load. A moderate supply, and a steady trade. CUMBERLAND. — Meadow hay, 3/ 10 8 to 4/ /7„ . clover 3/ 15s to . . ,1 8s ; and straw, 1/ 8 s t o 1/ 16s per' load. at full prices. Trade ditt o , firm, WHITEMIAPEL.—Meadow hay, 3/ 8s to 4/ 15s ; clover ditto, 4/ Os to 5l 103; and straw, 1/ 8s to 1/ 16s per load. Supply good, and trade firm. THE GREENLAND SEAL FISHERY.—The Sovereign ' o f Fraserbury, Captain Burnett, the first ship from the Greenland seal fishery, arrived at that port on Friday, with 3,020 seals, and reports as follows : — TheMelinka , of Fraserburgh, April 20, 7,000 seals ; the Vulcan, of do., 2,000 ; the Active, of Peterhead, 6,000 ; the Agos tino., of do., 5,000 ; the Dublin, of do., 5,200 ; the Co lumbia, of do., 5,000 ; the Fairy, of do., 3,000 ; the North of Scotland, Gf do., 4,000 ; the Resolution, of do., 1,000 ; the Queen, of do., 4,000 ; the Victor, of do., 8,000 ; the Eclipse, of do., 1,000 ; the Kate, of do., 4,500 ; the Pomona, of do., 3,000 ; and the Felix, of Banff, 3,000. The fishery thus promises to be most abundant. INCLEMENCY OF THE WEATHER.—At Manchester the weather during the last few days has been exceedingly cold, with frequent falls of snow. The first change of temperature was on Friday, and on Saturday there were falls of snow, followed by rain, and then by hail. On Sunday some snow fell, and yesterday again the snow came down for several hours in large flakes, but often mingled with rain. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) Their lordships assembled about 4 o'clock. ROYAL COMMISSION. The Royal assent was given by commission to the fol lowing bills :--The South Sea and other Annuities Com mutation ; the Slave Trade (Sohar in Arabia) ; the Slave Trade (New Grenada) ; the Metropolitan Improve ments (Repayment of the Consolidated Fund) ; the Law of Evidence (Scotland) ; the Office of Examiner (Court of Chancery) ; the Clergy Reserves (Canada); the General Board of Health ; the New Forest Deer Re moval Act Amendment ; and, among a number of other private bills, the London Assurance ; the Cork Municipal Corporation ; and the Great Yarmouth Wellington Pier. The Lords Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, Lord Stanley of Alderley, and the Duke of Argyll. INSPECTION OE NUNNERIES. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from Kent, in favour of the inspection of nunneries and monastic establishments. The Archbishop of DUBLIN presented a similar peti tion, in the prayer of which he said he entirely concurred. The right rev, prelate instanced several cases in which the liberty of the subject had been violated by these in stitutions, and said it was absolutely required that some legislative remedy should be devised, to meet the evils which every one must admit did exist to a considerable extent. It was desirable, for the credit of the institutions themselves, that some mode of inquiry should be established, and he thought that such an inquiry, so far from intruding upon domestic privacy, or interfering with the principles of civil and religious liberty, would tend to the better security of our fellow-countrymen. The Bishop of NORWICH hoped the subject adverted to by the right reverend prelate would occupy the attention of their lordships at no distant period. He trusted that some measure would be framed to secure the main object of the petition, but at the same time avoiding any interference with religious freedom or with the privileges of those institutions. PROGRESS OF PUBLIC BUSINESS. Lord LYNDHURST called attention to the bills con cerning legal reform now beforethe house, and expressed a hope that the Government would give every facility for their progress, in order that they might not meet the fate of these bills which were thrown overboard at the elose of the session in consequence of the press of business in the other house. He had in troduced a bill last session, to enable bills which had priced through all their stags in one seseieu to be taken up at the stage at which they left off in the following session, but it was not passed. He hoped that some arrangement of that sort would be entered into, either by adjourning, instead of proroguing, Parliament at the end of a session, or by some other means. The Earl of ABE IiDEEN said the Government were anxious to expedite the bills mentioned by the learned lord by all proper means in their power, but it was im possible for him to give any distinct promise with refe rence to them. After a few words from Lord CAMPBELL and Lord BROUGHAM, Earl GREY suggested that the object of tl'e noble and learned lord might be attained by a re solution of both houses, that a bill might be proceeded with in one session from the stage at which it had left off in a previous session. PICTURES OF LOUIS PHILIPPE. In reply to the Earl of MALMESBURY, The Ea - r 1 of ABERDEEN said that the collection of pictures belonging to the late Louis Philippe had been inspected, and that some of them had been purchased by the Government. DWELLING HOUSES FOR THE WORKING CLASSES. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved a resolution to the effect, that before the first reading of any bill for the construction of works which would take 30 or more houses inhabited by the working classes in any one pa rish there should be deposited particulars respecting the houses, and also information as to when any provision was made in the bill for remedying the inconvenience arising from the displacement of the inhabitants. — Agreed to. THE RULES OF THE HOUSE. Earl FITZWILLIAM was about to give notice of motion, when he was met by loud cries of " The order of the day." The noble earl, however, persisted, amid calls to order, which completely drowned his voice. After some confusion, Lord BEAUMONT rose to order. He was exceed ingly sorry to see anything like confusion in their pro ceedings, and he begged to remind the noble earl, that the house had adopted certain rules (relative to proceed ing with the business on the paper at a quarter past five), and though he had protested against them when first proposed, still, as they had been adopted by the house, they ought to be adhered to. No doubt it might be inconvenient to the noble earl on the present occasion to give his notice, but at another time he would probably find the rules exceedingly convenient by enabling him to bring on his motion at an early hour. He, therefore, trusted the noble earl would now give way. Earl FITZWILLIAM was proceeding to state that he did not intend to make any speech, but simply to give notice that to-morrow he should move that The remainder of the sentence was lost in loud cries of " Order, order," from all parts of the house, amid which several noble lords vainly endeavoured to gain a hearing. At last The - Marquis of CLANRICARDE exclaimed, in a loud tone, " I move that this house do now adjourn," and calm having been restored, went on to say that he made that motion in order that he might make a few remarks on the subject, which he hoped would set this matter correctly before the house. After a brief discussion the question of adjournment was then put and negatived. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved, that the house take into consideration the report of the Select Com mittee on the Displacement of the Labouring Classes, with a view to adopting the following resolution, founded on that report :—" That before the first reading of any bill for snaking any works, in the construction of which com pulsory power is sought to take thirty houses or more, in habited by the labouring classes in any one parish or place, the promoters be required to deposit in the office of the Clerk of the Parliaments a statement of the number, de scription, and situation of the said houses, the number (so far as they can be ascertained) of persons to be dis placed, and whether any and what provision is made in the bill for remedying the inconvenience likely to arise from such displacement, in order to its being made a standing order." He thought that resolution, if adopted, would go very far towards destroying an evil that was generally felt, and, if he might judge from the letters lie had received from such great contractors as Mr. Cubitt, Mr. Peto, Mr. Brassey, and others, he was sure it would work well. The resolution was then put and agreed to. The Burghs (Scotland) Bill, and Sheriffs and Commis sariat Courts (Berwickshire) Bill passed through com mittee. THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA. The Earl of AIRLIE said he did not wish to ask for any details of the measure intended to be introduced by Government for the future government of India, but he wished to inquire whether it was the first of a series of measures on that subject, or whether it was intended to stand alone ? Was it to be understood that, in adopt ing the measure proposed by her Majesty's Ministers, Parliament was pledging itself to abstain from all inter ference in the affairs of the East India Government dur ing the period for which the p rov i s i on s o f th e bill were to be in force, or were there any questions to be left open ? The question he asked was, not one of detail, but of principle, and one on which it was desirable to have a clear understanding. The Earl of ABERDEEN said he thought their lord ships must feel that he could not, in answer to the ques tion just put to him, enter into the merits of the mea sure to which the noble earl had referred. Notice had been given that a measure for the future government of India would be introduced into the other house of Par liament before the end of this month. The noble earl would then see what was the nature of that measure, and how far it answered the question which he had asked. As to the measure proceeding on the report of the select committee, of course it could not do that, at all events as regarded matters upon which they had not reported ; and he could also assure the noble earl that nothing would be introduced into the measure which would pre clude future legislation, should such be found necessary. Their lordships would, however, in a short time be enabled to judge what the nature of the measure was, and he hoped the noble earl would then find his question answered by it. LAND IMPROVEMENT (IRELAND) BILL. On the order of the day being read for the recommit ment of the Improvement of Land (Ireland) Bill, Lord MONTEAGLE objected to the fifth clause of the measure, as making the owners of property consent ing parties to contracts entered into without their know ledge, and moved that the bill be recommitted that day month. The Earl of DONOUGHMOBE supported the measure, as did the Earl of WICKLOW ; and the Earl of LUCAN opposed it. The Earl of EGLINTON considered that the much objected-to clause in the bill was merely nominal. Lord BEAUMONT saw several defects in the details of the bill, against which he felt it to be his duty to protest. Lord GLENGALL considered that nothing could be more objectionable than the principle of giving to a public board the power of arbitrating between landlord and tenant, and lie therefore recommended that the bill be postponed for future consideration. Viscount CANNING, in reply, defended the objects of the bill. Their lordships divided, when the numbers were :- - For the amendment—Content, 8 ; not content, 35 ; majority, 27. The house then went into committee on the bill. The several clauses were debated seriatim, and amend ments proposed, but negatived on division. The house then resumed, and the bill was reported, after which th e i r lordships adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS--(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at four o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following bills were read a third time and passed: —Adel Beck Reservoir, Madras Railway, and Belfast and Ballymena Railway. The following bills were read a third time :—Austra lian Agricultural Company, Dundee W aterworks, Great Northern Railway (No. 1) ; Londonderry, Enniskillen, and Sligo Railway ; Lough Foyle and Lough Swilly Lough S Drain age willy Railway Bills and Reclamation ; and L ough Foyle and . The following bills were read a second time :----Burton. HLWCHINSON'S CLAIM BILL. On the return of the Speaker, Mr. OLI VEIRA moved the second reading of this bill, which, he explained, was to provide for the payment of a debt due from theEastlndiaCompanyto the representatives of Mr. Hutchinson. That gentleman was for many years the resident for the East India Company at the Court of the Rajah of Travancore, and while acting in that capa city a debt became due to Mr. Hutchinson by the Rajah of somewhere near 500,000 rupees. In 1797 both Mr. Hutchinson and the Rajah died ; but various instalments were paid by the successor of the Rajah to Mr. Hutchin son's representatives, amounting to 280,000 rupees. In the year 1808 the East India Company assumed to themselves the management of the revenues of Travan core, and immediately stopped the payment of any fur ther instalments. Up to the present time not a single farthing had been paid, notwithstanding that a commit tee of that house, appointed in 1831, had recommended that a bill should be introduced to compel the payment of the whole claim. His object was to send this bill to a committee up stairs, in order that its justice should be fairly inquired into. Mr. LOWE, on behalf of the Government, op posed the bill, on the ground that the trans actions for which the debt was contracted were of the most questionable nature. When the com pany took to themselves the management of the revenue of Travancore, they appointed Mr. Munroe to draw up an account of the Rajah's just debts, but Mr. Hutchinson's representatives did not make their appearance before Mr. Munroe, which was of itself a sufficient test of the cha racter of the claim. The House of Commons had thrown out a bill of the same nature 21 years ago, and that he thought was a very good reason why they should throw out the present bill. Mr. BRIGHT said that this case was one of many in which great injustice might be done in consequence of there being no tribunal before which claims of this nature might be brought. He should support the second read ing of this bill in order that it might be sent before a select committee. Mr. COLLIER also supported the bill on the same grounds. - Sir C. WOOD moved that this bill be read a second time this day six months. He believed that the Rajah was not fairly indebted to Mr. Hutchinson, but even if it were, no reason had been shown why the East India Company should be charged with it. All that they had done was to advise the Rajah not to pay it until its jus tice was established. He believed this claim was a fraudu lent and collusive claim. Mr. HUME supported the bill on the ground that inquiry was necessary. _ _ Air J. W. HOGG Opposed the bill on the ground that this claim had been inquired into and had been found to be untenable. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he sat upon the committee in 1842, which reported that Mr. Hutchinson's claim was a just one, and he thought it somewhat strange that the President of the Board of Control should now oppose it. He began to think there was something more in this claim than was originally supposed. It was re sisted not only by the Government, but by the East India Company, and under these circumstances, the least the house could do was to refer the bill to a committee. Mr. MARSHALL said he also was a member of the former committee, and from the monstrous state of the accounts that were then produced, he had little difficulty in arriving at the conclusion that the claim was not made out. He had heard nothing since to alter that opinion, and he must therefore resist the further progress of this bill. The house then divided, when there appeared—. For the second reading 4B Against it lB6 Majority l3B The bill was accordingly thrown out. IIA.RWICH ELECTION. _ _ Sir J. TYRELL moved that Mr. Speaker do issue his writ to the Clerk of the Crown for the election of a burgess for the borough of Harwich, in the room of Mr. Peacock, unseated on petition. Sir DE L. EVANS objected to the motion, which he declared could not be made according to the rules of the house without seven days previous notice. Sir G. GREY also thought it was important to deter mine whether they were strictly in order before the house ordered the issue of the writ. The report of the election committee having been read, Mr. HEADLAM said Mr. Peacock was unseated on the ground that he had promised an elector to assist him in getting a situation ; but though that might, strictly speaking, not be an act of bribery, yet as the house had established a rule that these should not issue without seven days' notice, he thought the house would do well to refuse the writ for the present. After a few words from Sir J. TYRELL, Sir F. KELLY insisted that this case did not come within the terms of the rule which had been referred to by the hon. member opposite. Lord J. RUSSELL said the case certainly did not come within the rule, but still, under the circumstances reported by the committee, they ought to refuse the writ without previous notice. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said all these difficulties were the result of the committee not having complied with the Controverted Elections Act, and reported whether or not a writ ought to issue. For his own part he was disposed to refuse a writ to this old offender, Harwich. (A laugh.) Mr. AGLIONBY said there was no statute obliging a committee to report whether or not a writ should issue. Now this case was neither bribery nor treating, but inasmuch as it was worse than either, he did not think it would be wise to issue the writ for the present. He should, therefore, move that the debate be adjourned until this day fortnight. Mr. DISRAELI suggested that the debate should be adjourned until Friday. Mr. GOULBURN thought it would be bettor to post pone this motion until the evidence in the case was printed. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE read a clause from the Contro verted Elections Act, to show that he was correct in what he had previously stated. Sir J. PAKINGTON contended that no sufficient case had been made out to justify the withholding of the writ. Sir G. GREY, on the other hand, insisted that a very strong case had been made out against the sittin mem ber, who had been guilty of a " corrupt practice" in its worst form. _ _ After a few words from Sir J. TYRELL, tha house divided, when there appeared— For the the adjourment Against it Majority The debate was accordingly adjourned for a fortnight. GOVERNMENT LIFE ASSURANCES. Mr. A. PELLATT begged to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is the intention of Government to insure lives, whether the tables of rates is completed, and when it is probable that such an arrangement will be car ried out. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that a clause would be inserted in the Income Tax Bill to give effect to the intention of Government, as explained by him when he made his financial statement, viz., that per sons having assured their lives, or th e li ve s of their wives, or purchased deferred annuities for themselves or their wives, would be allowed, under certain restrictions, to deduct from their taxable income the amount paid by them for the annual premiums. Of course when the arrange ment would come into effect would depend upon whether the clause was adopted by the committee ; but should it bo adopted, he should then be pr e p are d t o s h o w the details by which he proposed the arran gemen t s h ou ld b e carried out. (Hear, hear.) COFFEE AND CHICORY. Lord CLAUD HAMILTON i nqu i re d whether a mix ture of chicory and coffee, labelled according to the excise regulation, but sold and paid for as coffee, rendered the vendor liable to penalties. He put the question because he was informed that coffee, adulterated with chino/9, was sold in some shops as coffee, labelled " Coffee and Chicory," but in such a way as to deceive the purchasers. Mr. J. WILSON replied that under the Treasury order, coffee and chicory mixed might be sold, if labelled accord ing to certain regulations. If the mixture was sold with out being labelld, the vendors were liable to penalties ; and if labelled, he could not see how any person could be deceived, unless they wore content to take the word of the vendor in preference to the label. MANNING THE NAVY. of the committee on tow Si a r rd G e . t P h E e p C u ll b E lie L a L tio i n nq o u f i t t r w ep h o a r t t steps bad been taken the subject of manning the navy, which had been laid on the table on Tuesday last ? Sir J. GRAHAM said, the papers alluded to had been laid ers, would, tly were on the table of the h o u se o n the 3d of May, and, with the view of expeditin g th e i r b e i n g placed in the hands of mem bers, h n o o p w e d i) , e b i n e g ready printed very b shortly. H e wou ld the Queen's pri n t ers , and also state, that it was his intention, after the papers had been brought in, to move for leave to bring in two bills founded on them. (Hear.) EXCISE DUTIES ON SPIRITS BILL. In answer to Captain JONES, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that he proposed to go on with this bill after the house had dis• posed of the resolution on the legacy duty. CHURCH RATES. Lord J. RUSSELL requested the hon. members for Tavistock and the Tower Hamlets , who had motions on r the paper on this subject, which the Government had pro mised to give a preference to that night, would, in order to delay.ino te t uehetl progress Thursday,of pi the 6t public business, inst., inesset„ when the Government to a farther Government would give their motions precedence. Mr. PHILLIMORE and Sir W. CLA Y were understood to acquiesce in the noble lord's proposal. REPUTED BRIBERY OF IRISH MEMBERS. On of On the motion that the Spea ker leave the chair, and the house resolve itself into Comm ittee of Ways and Means, Mr. E. BALL said — l desi re to p ut the question to the house which I took the l ibert y on Friday night putting to her Majesty's G o vernment generally. I was no t able to obtain an answ er to the question I then put, but it seems to me of so important a nature, involving the re spectability of so many gentlemen on the opposite side of the house, that I th ink the y will receive in kindness and favour this attempt on my part to give them an opportu nity of refuting the statement which has been made. The hon. gentleman the member for Westmeath (Mr. Magan) stated the other night that an accredited agent of the Whig and Peel Ministry had gone to a number of Irish members of Parliament—(hear) —and had stated to them that he was authorized on behalf of the Whig and Peel parties to say, if the Irish members would assist them in turning ou rein t the Governm ent of Lord Derby, that when they wore stated in power they would not impose a property tax on Ireland. (Opposition cheers.) Thi s seems t o me a trans action soiniquito us in its characte r —(l aug ht er and cheers) —so directed against the principles of the British constitu tion, and so contrary to the practice of the house, that some further notice ought to be taken o f it. A member who had given only 12s. a-week, for which ample work had to be done, was held guilty of corruption ; and the hou. member for Bridgenorth, who had 22 char ges o f b r ib ery through his agents brought against him, Was exonerated from them all, except one, which was a charge of having through his agents paid a bill due on account of a former election. Purity is expected in the system of election— uprightness and integrity on the part of the electors ; and the electors are justified, if there is so keen a scrutiny as regarded the constituencies, in asking that the members shall not be found guilty of taking anything in the shape of a bribe, whether place, pension, or money. This case is especially one of those gross cases with which hon. gentle men opposite would, I think, have been revolted. ("Hear, hear," from the Opposition.) The earliest opportunity should have been given to Ministers of repudiating, ex plaining, or denying the charge. I would, therefore, re spectfully ask the hon. member for Westmeath, whether he will state that such an overture was made a. 3 he alleged on Friday, and that such a promise was given as that no income tax should be imposed on Ireland if the Whigs received the loaves and fishes by the votes of certain mem bers of the Irish party. I hope I have not taken an unfair advantage ; but there was an objection to the notice which I tendered. Captain MAGAN.---I believe, Mr. Speaker, the hon. member has no strict right to put this question to me at all. The rules of the house are, I believe, that the question should be put, by order of the house, through you. In the second place, I think I am un fairly treated by the honourable gentleman ; for if he had considered ono moment he would at once have seen that a question of this sort, involving such grave conside rations, ought to have been placed openly and fairly on the paper. If it had been so I should have answered it. I can assure the hon. gentleman that he is completely mistaken in all the facts he has stated with respect to this matter. Lord J. RUSSELL—After what the hon. gentleman has stated, I think it right to say a few words in consequence of an impression which appears to rest on the mind of the hon. gentleman. He seems to think that some person was authorised by the Whig party, when the late Government was in power, to make some contract to the effect that they would not try to impose an income tax on Iraand if those Irish members would vote against the late Government. I have only to say that, according to my knowledge and be lief, there was no person authorised to make such a con tract, and no such contract was made with the Irish party. Lord A.VANE—As the subject has been commented on in the public prints, I must submit whether, in justice to the Government, the hon. member for Westmeath should not assign the grounds on which he made that statement, and also name the accredited agents to whom reference was made. Captain MAGAN—I did hear there was an intention to bring forward the question, but a notice should have been put on the paper. None has been so, and therefore I should have been placed in the awkward position of being called on to give the names of gentlemen who might be absent, if hon. members could have found me stupid enough to strike a man behind his back. Colonel DUNNE—I don't think the scene very creditable made in various mmbers. wsp rf ap i ne r e i rs sh breersspe made t ad t e o the to the house. As an Irish member, I have felt deeply the observationsconduct ma of such a bargain, it would be nothing disorderly. If I were going to support a Government, I should like to have some knowledge of their intentions. The way in which the Irish members have been spoken of is most shameful; there is no libel so base that a man will not write it for pay. All the Irish members are lumped together ; no exceptions are made. Mr. MALINS—I think the credit of the house is con cerned. I heard the hon. member for Westmeath state that a party of Irish members sitting abovestairs had been waited on by accredited agents of the Whig and Peelite party, and had this proposal made to them :—" If you vote to turn out the Government of Lord Derby we shall engage to keep the income tax off Ireland." If that be a correct statement it conveys a grave imputation on the great party which is now the Government of this country. (Hear.) Is it decent or proper that such imputations should pass unnoticed ? There is not an hon. gentleman who does not know who those accredited agents are. It is due to all parties that the imputation should be verified or repelled. Lord J. RUSSELL—I stated, that to the best of my knowledge and belief, no accredited agents of the Whig party made such a proposal. I ask the hon. member who has just sat down whether he believes me or does not be- lieve me? (Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") Does the hon. gentleman mean that accredited agents of the Whig party made such agreement or bargain ; or, if he does not mean that, let him state who it is that he does mean ? (Hear.) Mr. MALINS—The noble lord's statement is, that he did not authorise such an offer. The question, however, was, whether such accredited agents made it. Mr. G. MOORE—We are unnecessarily beating about the bush. I myself know nothing about the transaction, and was in no way influenced by any declaration of the kind. I shall go directly to the point by asking the hon. member for Wells what he has to state on the subject. Mr. HAYTER—I am extremely obliged to the hon gen tleman for bringing this question to an issue. I certainly have some reason to complain of the hon. member for Cam bridgeshire. I saw him as I entered the house. I asked him if he was going to put any question on this matter. He told me that he had submitted a notice, that there was an informality, and therefore he was unable to ask the question in the form and the terms in which he originally designed to ask it. I begged him then to put the question in a formal manner, so that I might be enabled to give a plain answer to a plain question—(hear)—and, if the hon. gentleman had had the courtesy to comply with that request, much of that which has painfully passed in this house would have been altogether spared. The hon. gen tleman, when I was not present, took occasion to to that matter, and I trust the house will not for a moment believe that I in the slightest degree shrink from giving a positive answer. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member for the county of Wicklow also came this evening and said he was about to ask me the same question; I told him I should be obliged to him if he would defer it till to-morrow, be cause then I should know what the distinct charge was, which up to this moment I don't know. (A cry of "Oh 1") I told him also that I was desirous of communicating with another hon. member before giving an answer to a charge apparently involving soino question relating to him. (A cry of "Oh !") No arrangement seems to have been made between those two hon. gentlemen. I never yet had a positive, distinct question, put to me. But I now under stand the hon. member for Cambridgeshire to say that some person, alleging himself to be an agent of the party now called the Whig party, some time during the financial statement of the late Chancellor of the Exchequer, took on himself to attend a body of Irish gentlemen, and state that he was authorised to make this proposal—namely, that if they gave their votes for the purpose of overthrowing the late Government, the Government likely to be founded on its ruins should undertake not to impose an income-tax on Ireland. I never was authorised by any person or any body of perfons to make any such communication to any person or any party. (Hear, hear.) I never did attend any meeting of any kind in my life of the Irish gentlemen. (Hear, hear.) I never stated to any person, at any time, that I was authorised in any manner to state, that in the event of the Government of Lord Derby being overthrown, the Goverment to be substituted in its place would under take not to impose an income tax on Ireland. If the hon. gentleman had put the question plainly before me, as he ought to have done, I should have given him an answer before. (Loud cries of" Hear, hear. ') Mr. BALL—I did put the question fairly and fully last Friday. Captain MAGAN—The mistake made is in taking for granted that I mean the hon. member opposite. (Great laughter.) The words were these :—I spoke in the plural number. I don't think the hon. member is in the plural number. (Laughter.) I spoke of gentlemen usually called accredited agents. To use " accredited" was a stretch of conscienec. They were three private Irish members of Parliament. (Name.) I will not name ; I will put a notice on the paper, in order to give them an opportunity of offering explanations. As regards the hon. member for Cambridgeshire, I am not surprised at the sen sitiveness which that hon. gentleman has evinced, for nothing can be more odious or detestable than that persons having gained an object by making promises should after wards refuse to carry those promises out. (Hear, hear.) When we look back and observe the way in which the late Whig Administration was displaced by Lord Derby's Go vernment, on the strength of their promising to a particu lar party that they should have protection ; and that as soon as that noble lord and his friends obtained power those promises were abandoned, it was enough to make men sensitive as to the conduct of men who have once placed themselves under pledges. (Hear.) Mr. G. MOORE—After what has just taken place, I think it right to say that, having heard that the right hon. member for Wells (Mr. Hayter) was the hon. member re ferred to in the course of this discussion, I thought it but fair to appeal to that right hon. gentleman in order at once to terminate the debate. (Hear, hear.) Mr. KNOX had understood that three Irish members had waited upon the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Hayter) by way of deputation, and that they were authorised by him to make the statement which had been made by the hon. member for Cambridgeshire. Mr. HATTER—I wish the hon. gentleman who intro duced this subject had mentioned what has now just been stated by the hon. member for Marlow, that I might have answered it. I will answer it now, and say that no such circumstance ever occurred. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WORTLEY.—I think the House ought to feel much obliged to the right hon. gentleman for the explana tion he has given, and I do trust we have now done with this unworthy matter. (Hear, hear.) I think every gen tleman who has a regard for the character of this House can entertain but one opinion as to this story, which, as it turns out, is utterly unfounded. (Hear, hear.) I hope the question will now be put an end to. (Hear.) Here'the subject dropped. DISFRANCHISEMENT OF PERSONS EMPLOYED IN HER MAJESTY'S DOCKYARDS. _ _ --• Sir F. BARING, seeing that his noble friend (Lord J. Russell) had a notice to move for leave to bring in a bill to disable persons employed in her Majesty's dockyards and gun wharfs and other civil establishments of the Admiralty and Ordnance from voting at elections of members to servo in Parliament for certain boroughs, wished to ask whether it was his intention to make that motion before the evidence taken by the dockyards committee was printed? The house knew nothing of that evidence yet. He had reason to sup pose that the measure to be proposed by the noble lord was actually founded upon the evidence given before that com mittee. If so, then it would be impossible for the house fairly to discuss the subject without referring to that evi dence. If he were to refer to newspaper evidence before the committee made their report, he should be very properly called to order. He considered it unfair that any steps should be taken to disfranchise these persons until the evi dence bad been produced; and therefore he thought that the motion of the noble lord ought to be adjourned till the committee had made their report. Lord J. RUSSELL begged, in the first place, to say, in answer to his right hon. friend, that the bill he (Lord J. Russell) intended to introduce was not all founded upon the inquiry now going on before the dockyards committee. With respect to postponing the motion, the only objection he should have to it was. that it must necessarily protract the business of the session. The boroughs which he in tended to include in the bill were Chatham and Rochester, Greenwich, Sandwich, Portsmouth, Devonport, Plymouth, Harwich, and Pembroke. He would postpone moving the introduction of the bill till griday se'nnight. COMMISSIONERS OF SEWERS. Mr. W. WILLIAMS wished to put a question to L or d Palmerston. Numerous deputations had waited upon the noble lord respecting the management of the Commissioners of Sewers. He wished to know whether it was the inters. tion of the Government to appoint new commissioners to carry out the plans which had been designed. Lord PALMERSTON admitted that complaints had been made of the management of the present Commis sioners of Sewers. Those complaints principally arose from the circumstance of a want of drainage required by the metropolis. Th a t wan t was chiefly, if not entirely, owing to the fact that the funds at the disposal of the commissioners were insufficient. Therefore, much that ought, perhaps, to be done, was necessarily left undone, The commissioners would do their best to make the drains where most required, as far as the means at , their disposal would enable them to do it. The com mission would expire in the course of this year, and it would theref ore b e necessary th i s session to i ntro d uce a bill on the subject. It was not, however, intended to make any new arrangement. What would be proposed was that the present arrangement should be continued until better grounds were afforded for bringing forward a now system. _ Lord GALWAY, on behalf of Lord A. VANE, azked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether there were any returns, or• other official documents, on which his statement of the expected amounts to be derived from the succession duty (as proposed) was formed ; and if so, whether he would have any objection to state those sources of information, and to lay any documents froni which they were derived on the table of the house? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that there were no documents whatever such as the noble lord referred to in the possession of the Government. THE BUDGET. RESUMED DEBATE. The house then went into Committee of Ways and Means. The first resolution as proposed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer having been read, Mr. PALMER moved the following amendment : " After the words for every 20s. of the annual value or amount thereof,' to insert 'such annual value of any lands, tenements, or hereditaments, being the net annual value thereof, after due allowance made for repairs, insurance, and management." He assured the committee that it was not his intention to raise a new debate upon the general subject of the income tax, but to confine himself to making the few observations that were necessary in support of his own proposition. Considering that they were now called upon to sanction an income tax for a much longer period than was ever pro posed before, it was necessary they should endeavour to mitigate its inequalities. With respect to the permanency of the tax, he entertained considerable doubts whether when the year 1860 arrived they would find it likely to terminate. He must be a bold man who would venture to prophecy that the tax would cease in 1860. It appeared to him that in the budget there was one class to whom very little relief was afforded—he alluded to the class in sche dule A. It was to that class that his amendment applied. He thought his proposal was but an act of justice to the persons included in schedule A ; and he assured the Chan. eellor of the Exchequer that he would not have proposed it unless he believed that it was a proposition that could bs borne out in argument. He need not waste time in at tempting to prove that the nominal value of an estate or of houses was any criterion of the income which the proprie tor received. Very considerable reductions must be made from the gross receipts. It was the income of the indivi dual they ought to tax, and his proposal was, that in order to arrive at that income they should deduct certain eharges such as repairs, insurance, and cost of management. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had shown that real property was now paying 9d. in the pound instead of 7d., a fact which he had adduced as an argument why the taxpayers under schedule D ought not to complain, but which was also an argument why the taxpayers under schedule A should be considered in the manner now proposed. (Hear.) Previously to this admission of the right hon. gentleman, the landed interest had innocently supposed they were under the operation of an act of Parliament requiring them to pay 7d. in the pound and no more. (Hear, hear.) The tradesman, under sched u l e D, was allowed a:deduction of income tax in respect of repairs of his premises occupied for the purposes of his trade on an average of three years. If the right hon. gentleman would make the same allowance in favour of the landowner and land occupier, whose claim to that allowance was precisely analogous in this respect to that of the trader, he should be quite satisfied. (Hear, hear.) He was not prepared with any clause to carry out the principle for which he contended; if the right hon. gentleman would admit the principle, there was no man more competent than he to carry it into effect. Ho did not conceive there could be any difficulty as to the mode of effecting it. There might be an objection on the ground of practical inequalities to the allowance of a uniform percentage of deduction, but he thought it would be quite practicable—the Chancellor of the Exchequer having con sented to make an allowance to landowners and occupiers under the heads which he had himself specified—to permit all such persons to go before the commissioners, claim such deductions as they could fairly demand under those heads, and have those claims allowed. (Hear, hear.) If it were suggested that be had no precedent for this proposition, he would refer to the Parochial Assessment Act as affording a precedent perfectly in point ; under that act, the assess ment to the poor-rate was made on the net annual value that the land or house assessed might be reasonably ex pected to let for, deducting the cost of repairs, of insurance, and—an expression, certainly, of very wide and somewhat vague import—of other expenses necessary to maintain the property rei in _state r, *nwhi a ch this t ;ro w vi ni si m on an w d as a practicallyrent. way, Tl eca d h i n n w tO practice was, that there were two columns in every paro chial ratebook, the one exhibiting the gross, the other the rateable value of each property to be assessed, and the rate was made upon the rateable value so set forth. (Hear, hear.) It appeared to him that precisely the same prin ciple might be carried into effect with regard to the assess ment of the income-tax under schedule A. In making this proposition, he was actuated not so much by a desire to relieve the larger landowners, though the largeness of a man's property afforded no season why he should be un fairly taxed—(hear, hear,)—as with a view to relieve the small owners of land, and the owners of houses oil a small scale. He had been informed that as to the latter class, one-third of their rental was swallowed up by repairs, Insurance, bad debts.— The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—The de falcations of absconding tenants are allowed for. efMr. PALMER was glad to hear that, but he hoped the number of absconding tenants was limited. Still, there was no doubt that the inevitable deductions from the gross rental of those persons were very material, and he trusted the right hon. gentleman would take those deductions into his favourable consideration. The noble lord opposite had the other night, be believed, expressed an opinion that the amendment which he (Mr. Palmer) had announced, and which he was now submitting to the committee, was at direct variance with the proposition of the late Chancellor of the Exchequer, and had expressed thereupon his wonder that such an amendment should proceed from any gentle man on that side of the house. He did not propose to discuss the alleged direct variance—the right honourable gentleman the late Chancellor of the Exchequer could, no doubt, settle that point with the noble lord—but at the same time he would beg the noble lord to bear in mind that at the period to which he referred there was no such thing in existence or in proposal as the legacy duty on land now before the house, and which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had brought forward as a kind of compensation to schedule D. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman would hardly contend that schedule A could, in fairness, be called upon still to pay 9d. in the pound instead of 7d., having in addition the legacy duty imposed upon it by way of a satisfaction to scheule A. He trusted the right hoe. gentleman would give his proposition a serious and favourable consideration. (Hear, hear.) Mr. ALCOCK, though he had voted generally in favour of the budget, was not prepared to say that. he was quite satisfied with the income tax portion of it. Not that he complained of it, so far as it went ; his objection was that it did not go far enough. He had, before the Christmas recess, given notice of a motion to extend the income tax, at 7d. in the pound, to all incomes in Great Britain and Ireland, wages—even the wages of the labouring classes— being included. At present but 1 in 65 of the population of the country contributed to its taxation, that 65th man paying on an average 13/. ; whereas, carry his principle down to the labourer at 12s. a week, and 5,000;000 of per sons would contribute to the taxation beyond those who now contributed, each of those 5,000,000 contributing, as his data taught him, 30s. per annum on the average. In other words, whereas of the 440,000,0001., which were the estimated property of the country, 250,000,0001. now escaped taxation, his proposal was to make those 250,000,0001. contribute their fair share. (Hear.) Effect this object, and instead of the present income tax of 5,500,0001., you would realise 13,000,0001., per annum , an d the 7,500,001. beyond the present amount would at once enable the Chancellor of. the Exchequer to repeal the en tire duty on malt and hops, to repeal the soap duties, to reduce the tea duties as now proposed, and to reduce the tobacco duty to ls. It was said sometimes that this would be all very well if the money could be raised from the labouring classes. He believed that there would be no difficulty in this, because—first, it would be a just mea sure, and one to which lie was convinced, therefore, they would not object; and because, secondly, it would prove of the greatest benefit to those classes, inasmuch as they contributed at present an infinitely greater amount to the revenue, in proportion to their incomes, than any other class. To show by ono instance the amount to which they would be benefitted by the measures which he proposed, he would take the case of an ordinary labouring man, with a wife and three or four children, receiving, say, 12s. a week. Supposing, then, such a person to consume 101 b. of tea in a year, he would save upon that article 12s. ; upon soap he would save 4s. a-year ; on beer, supposing he , only expended 455. at present upon that beverage, he would save 15s. ; and if he consumed 51b. of tobacco he would save upon that Ils., making altogether 21. 2s. saved. His income tax, supposing him to be charged at the pre sent rate, would be 18s., and he would therefore have a clear annual money gain of 11. 45., in addition to getting his articles infinitely purer and less adulterated than at present. He certainly was astonished that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had not taken this opportunity of re pealing the duties upon malt, hops, and tobacco. The former the people never would carry unti l the y made strong demand for it, but then they would; and as to itto to bacco, it was notorious that the high duty occasioned be the staple of the contraband trade of the country. lt was said that smoking was a dirty and unwholesome n prac tice. Was it ? Then why had they a smokingiviodin i that house and in all their clubs? (A laughs.) general re spect o feelingth e q uoefstthioenpaetoli,slesuoef htheiswrounsatrtyiwells itnhafatvotuhre toh f e tl h ie on b . u i d n g e e m t, b a e n r ( f l o o r f ß n e o rk p e a h rt ire of no it w so sou n g i Mr. MILES thought that the budget t 1 t4)amify of s th t°dh e a Go w v .hie ern h - N u v i a e s n t iv t i l m ea i l t t t e h d a r d b l y y t w h i e t h r t g l h , e t owners bon. ge o n f tiem real a n pro e l p ,e p r e t e y i t . e fi t ; 1849 that real property ooooo jo 1., n b o u t r o d n e e ne f d ar lv h i i t e h g l e o rw l h t i a e x h es ha t ( o i the amount of been taken off since then. The proposition of his hon. friend the member for Berkshire was a fair and moderate proposition, and he trusted that it would meet with the support of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It was sup posed that the owners of real, property were possessed of groat wealth and large estates, but according totoheautohros iity of Mr. M‘Cullagh,the 34,000,0001. o f real propert y They wn ere he this country was divided amon proprietors, which 200,000 which gave an average of only 1701, to each,circumstances now to subjected to the l e e n g u a tni c td y leerd duty tuyeh ask in additionthe to local Chanc e ll or o f and th ee u gB o xh t et h h e t e r h e b y u w rt e l e r e n s f , a tt quer to ass ar e ln n yd t to the propositi on of his hon. n reply mill other chtharMg friend. (Hear.) amountCOß E ef LL poe o r bs r e a r t v e ed • th C at ap thtaeinScharges on M Miles, land had considerably diminished since 1849, and there prosper. He tha teatmhee landed interest would con twinasuenvteoryp make a difference between fixed and the house disposed to incomes— between the arm-chair incomes a a n n d d t p h i r working-by-hand incomes incomes as they were called-- (Hear hear, from the ut he was of a pliable mind. Opposition.). He would tell them why he had changed his mind and voted for the proposi tion of the Government. He did so because the sight hon. gentleman convinced him that the land did not pay more than precarious incomes to the income tax. The -.right hon. gentleman made it out that the land paid 9d. in the pound. He (Captain Scobell) thought that Bd. was nearer the mark. Then the right hon. gentleman imposed a legacy duty on land. The legacy duty was not imposed for the sake of equalising the scale of taxation under the income tax, and the landed interest ought rather to re joice that they had so long escaped from the payment of that duty than complain that it was now imposed. He thought that Ireland ought to pay her fair share of the taxation of the empire, and that it would be unjust to throw on the people of England the burden which Ireland ought to bear. The object of all parties ought to be to make a fair and equitable budget. Such a subject he believed the present to be, and such also was the opinion of the country. It was a budget of equivalents, and must be taken as a whole. He could not, therefore, support the proposition of the honourable member for Berkshine. (Chem.) Mr. PHILIPPS said that his own feeling was in favour of a graduated income tax, but he felt there were ;vest difficulties in the way of carrying out smelt a g raduation. The various innumerable plans suggested by those who said that the matter was easy of accomplishment, were no at all calculated to remove the difficulties he felt on the subject. The Government, however, had declared that it was impracticable, and he cored not, therefore, refuse theM, on this 6 , round, the means of carrying on the Ge -1 vernment. (Hear, hear.) 'With regard to the proposition immediately before the house, he confessed he entertained doubts whether a small concession of this kind would at all benefit the landed interest. (Hear, hear.) The true conservative policy was, he conceived, to allay irritation ; and on that ground he could not vote for the amendment. He still entertained hopes of relief to the landed interest, and he was not prepared to sell its grievances for lad. or 2d. in the pound. The injury done to the laud by the Court of Chancery and by the laws affecting real property in general exceeded, in his opinion, that which it has re ceived from the income tax. Looking at the budget as a whole, he was prepared to accept it as a choice between something and nothing— between a distinct scheme of tax ation and no scheme at all. m Eibwtuex e btrc c leehti equitablehueft forgotten orcryueoao o roput f nt eigt nh r tnt remitting mtetr regard watge consider better g Mr. L. HEYWORTH reminded the house that the im stialt,eootho,llooitl.,waansdprsetvililoulselayv.ingThtlii,ye position of a tax of 5,000,0001. per annum had been the whole e n.% t dt h lhees e ra:t taethhiene whetherd ioo a tnr e s c i tt directot affected anxcaerntoewnda. individuals, sonuno rortorshouldfi morev 0 millions. After such great ben er et 2 f hundred persons, pressed s upon twenty five realised, he trusted they would never stultify themselves in the eyes of the country by abandoning the income tax. He did not see why at the end of seven years it should not be raised to 10 per cent. (Laughter from the Opposition.) At all events he could not imagine that the House of Commons of that day would be so unwise as entirely to remit it, knowing, as they must do, how much good it had been the means of effecting. The country was every day becoming more and more enlightened on the subject; and having heard it stated that the working classes strongly objected to the lowering of the tax so as to make it apply to them, he was happy to s a y that he had attended meetings at which, after hearing the matter put fairly before them, they had not expressed any opposition. Mr. BUCK wished hon. gentlemen opposite would, in connection with this subject, consider the case of one of the most industrious classes in this country—he meant the small freeholders, of whom there were not less than 4,000 in the county which he represented (Devonshire). Hera were persons who for the most part had acquired land by their own industry, and upon whom the burdens of land fell very heavily. It was said that such persons, like all who were connected with the soil, had received great be nefit from the recent changes in our commercial system. Now, he happened that morning to be looking over a valu able return made to the house last year, which specified for a number of years the amount of the poor rate, as well as the quantity of corn required to pay the rate. In 1845, when the corn laws were repealed, the poor rate was 6,765,4451., which at that period required only 2,762,433 quarters of corn to pay it. In 1851 the poor rate was 6,070,0001., requiring 3,396,533 quarters of corn, or nearly one-third morn than the amount before the corn laws were repealed. He did not think, therefore, that the farmers had been much benefited by free trade in corn. The diffi culties of the agricultural interest were much increased by emigration, which had risen from 50,00 to 50,000 per annum ; and lettsrs which he had received skewed that the pressure upon the small farmers from the scarcity of labour was extremely severe, and likely to prove injurious to the country. Mr. AGLIONBY said they ware told that they must take this measure as a whole ; but admitting that, he had never heard, in the course of his experience, that because they accepted a measure as a whole, they were not to en deavour to amend any of its parts. (Cheers from the Op position.) If they failed in their efforts to amend it, Ls would still be open to there to take it with its evils. He thought nothing could be more fairand reasonable than the proposition of the hon. member for Berkshire. (Hear, hear from the Opposition.) The amendment was that the tax should be paid upon certain property, including all real property, lands as well as houses, according to the annual value. He had understood the Chancellor of the Exche quer to say, that there was to be some distinction between house property and land ; but it appeared to him that that. would only increase the present injustice. (Hear, hear.) The hon. and gallent member for Bath (Capt. Scobell) said the measure was to be taken as a whole on the principle of equivalents. He (Mr. Aglionby) was not quite sure that he understood the phrase " principle of equivalents ;" but if the meaning were that parties were to get something in return for what they lost, he must say that the proposition rather appeared to be that, because they were compelled to do injustice to one class they ought also to do injustice to another. (Hear, hear.) He had always been anxious that there should be a graduated scale for fluctuating and fixed incomes, and he had only yielded to the necessity of the case when consenting to the renewal of the income tax without any alteration in the mode of assessment. He could not view the tax as a temporary one, and should hesitate to vote for it if he thought it could be temporary —(hear, hear)—but considering it a good tax, and believing it would be permanent, he thought they should do their best to remedy whatever was unjust about it. Colonel HARCOURT having voted for the proposal of the late Chancellor of the Exchequer, for continuing the income tax for three years, with precisely the same provi sions as to land and houses as the present measure con tained, he could not reconcile it to his sense of justice to vote for an amendment which would, by taking a portion of the tax from land and houses, throw a heavier tax on trades and professions. If the proposal were however brought forward as a substantive measure, he should sup port its principle as one of justice. Mr. SPOONER was not aware the house came to any distinct vote on the income tax as proposed in the budget of his right hon. friend (Mr. Disraeli)—and had the ques tion been brought directly under discussion he should have voted, as he had al wa y s d one, aga i ns t a property tax in time of peace. The tax was peculiarly severe as against land—for, while there was a deduction on account of houses for loss of rent when tenants ran away, in the case of land no deduction was allowed. Mr. DRUMMOND observed that it was admitted on all hands that land bore more burdens than any other class of property. (" No, no," from Mr. Bright.) One hon. member dissented from this view ; but it was generally admitted by the house, and it had been acknowledged by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Hear, hear.) The riglit hon. gentlemai (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) proposed to allow certain qualifications in imposing the tax on land, one of which was a deduction for management. This, however, could not affect the case of the large proprietor ; the small freeholder would obtain no benefit from it. He thought it would be more advantageous to discuss these details in committee on the bill. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BRIGHT had heard the statement as to land being so heavily taxed ever since he had been in that house, and the course of legislation had of late years been to diminish the exclusive privileges of land, and now they found the Chancellor of the Exchequer was about to include a large number of farmers under the income tax, and to impose the legacy duty on real property. (" Hear, hear," from the opposition.) He applauded the right hon. gentleman for so doing ; and that, being convinced the course he took when a young man was wrong, he was determined to abandon it, and carry out what he felt to be the strand principle. But the right hon. gentleman appeared to be in somewhat of a di ffi culty in this matter. When he brought forward his budget be stated that land paid on the gross, instead of on the set income, and therefore paid 9d instead of 7d in the pound to the income tax ; but at the same time he urged that no discrimination should be made in the case of land, and that all incomes should pay alike, There was, as it appeared to him (Mr. Bright), great dis crepancy in these two statements. He however thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer had committed a slight mistake. He seemed to look only at the mode in which land was charged, forgetting to take into account the mode in which other property was charged. If the right hon. gentleman would turn his attention to trades he was quite sure he would find that they required an equal de duction to land. Take for instance the manufacturing traders. Tho Chancellor of the Exchequer had re ferred to insurance as a charge upon land. But insurance was the smallest charge the landowner had to pay. Land wanted no insurance, and all he had to pay upon was the farm-buildings, and even for them he was exempt from the stamp duty. The masrafacturer was equally compelled to pay insurance, and to a far larger extent, but in levying the income tax no allowance was made for it, but he had to pay upon it as profit. In some cases t he nd manufacturer paid 4001. or 5001. a year for insurance, n t e i e le , and of this 100/. would go to the Exchequer. regarded it all as prot, and upon e the income tax was charged. Again, mach inery po und thus paid was seldom did not last for ever. After 15 years' wear, m achin ery worth more than the metal o fhen whic h , as to bad debts, it was was composed, yet no allowance was made. T diffi c ult if not impossible to obtain any allowance on that ac count. And turning ag ain to i nsurance, the charge for insuring a cargo of cotton from New Orleans to Liverp oo was not allowed as a deduction i n estimating the profit for the income tax. These were all cases as regarded trade similar to those which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had set forth in reference to land when he endeavoured to show that the landowners pay 9d. instead of 7d. in the pound. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Bright) had never been one of those who had argued about the necessity of discriminating between the different classes of income • but with regard - the commercial classes, he had alwaysb:indofopinionththat the great grievance was in the disp utes irritation con sequent upon the mode in whic h the returns were made and the assessments fixed. If the tax was now to be con tinued for seven years longer he thought the Chancellor of the Exchequer might easil y make arrangements by which the as sessmen t might be made much less irritating than it was at present. IllEek e especially of the neigh bourhood i n w hi c h he li ved when he said that nobody was satisfied with the loca l commissioners of incom e t ax , and he was qu it e satisfi ed th at from that loc a lity th e Chan cellor of th e Exchequ er had received more complaints upon that ;gonna than as to the amount of the tax. The arrangement he would propose was this : —There was, he believed, a surveyor of taxes in every district.. Ho would suggest that this surveyor should make a list of all the persons who had paid income tax in his district during the previous three-years—and should send round this printed list to the parties liable to the tax—that they should be required to make their initials against 20 or 25 of these names, and that from the names that in this way had the greatest number of votes a com m's3ioner should be chosen. Such an arrangement would give confidence in the tax payers, and obviate much of the annoyance that now existed. He should of course vote for the proposition of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and against the amendment of the hon. member for Berks, which, if carried, would entail upon him the necessity of submitting another amendment having reference to tr a de s —and if they went on in this way deducting somet hin g revenue would from lands, something from trades, and something from all other sources of income, the loss to t he iny instead of a soon render it necessary to have a sevenpenny tax throughout- Sir T. D. ACLAND argue d tha t if they were to go on the principle of taking a little frees one and a little from ►is• 1g" pry L f`r OF' Ear o bcor th e ;he' s it to O r 001 $ 011 " ke al o f 000 isto o orih 4 ,:f n or v _ A t oAc'' not. Ile r Bli • tb elt . lis 4ii d 121 panel O a r in e j, e ll el / o%it 113131'1 .0 01144 r three st. 20 25 25 St. 50 10 St. St. 4t, St, St, St, 26 i 13 i 20 ei 60 Zt. 20 2 8A all .00 all 1 100 4 100 100 100 100 tia.i e ~ too 20 100 114 an all 2 all