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IMPERIAL PARLUM ENT. HOUSE OF PEERS, MONDAY, NOV. 23. -Counsel were.hea rd, at considerable - length, rela ti ye to the Scots Appeal, W!LKIE GREIG. Mr. No;.AN, as second Counsel for thg.Respon tlent, and Mr. E,RSK /NE in reply, on the part of 'the Appellant. . When the Counsel had finished, ._ _ The Luau. CHANCEL GOR rose, and stated, that on account of the absence of a Noble and `very Learned Lord, who had paid the case a particular degree of attention, he should propose to fix its fur ther consideration for Wednesday ; which arrange ment meeting the sense of their Lordships, a lio tioh was made to that efFea, which passed accord ingly, • After some routine business was disposed of, the House adjourned till to-morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, NOV. 23. Mr. Co)qty presented a Petition froth the Pri sonerszonfineo for Debt in the Gaol of the County of Cork, praying for relief.—Ordered to lie on the Table. Mr. N. VANs:T-r. , ..RT moved for a Committee of the whole House to-morrow, to *consider of the ACt of the 29th leo. HI., relative to the importa 'tior, of Naval Stores.—Ordered, POOR. Mr. STURGES brought up a Bill to explain and amend the Att of the Sth and 9th Will. 111. for the better relief of the Poor, so far as the same relates •to relieving Poor Persons not wearing certain badges directed by the said An, which was read a firbt time.' On the question for the second reading, Sir WILLIAM ELFQRP said, the objedions he had stated to de m i measure 'on a preceding even ing still itinued n his mind. He thought the pc-Wer given to justices of the Peace by the present Bid, to allow,reliet to perons not wearing badges, was highly improper. It was unfair to throw the odium Of such an exercise of discretionary power ripen the Magistrates. He conceived the übjed of the pre:,ent Bill, would be answer,ed by making a distinelioi, between two classes of Poor—between th6se who - were permanently maintained at the ex pence of the Public, and those who only received casual or temporary relief. With resped to the latter, he had no objedion to any measure that wpuld relieve them from the necessity of wearing a badge as a inark of the relief they had received ; but he conceived the. Public, in maintaining the former, acquired a right to impose upon them those condi tions which they thought proper and necessary. He must object, however, to throwing any additional burden upon -the office of a Justice Of, the Peace, the c x ecutiorrof- which , was already extremely trouble some and difficult. Mr. ,‘ZURGES observed, that be had brought ,in the Bill in consequence of the inability of an Hon. Friend (Mr. NeweoLT) to attend that even ing,. who had originally moved for it, and he was therefore not prepared to meet an opposition, which he did riot expert in that stage of the ,Bill. He thought the obieffion of the Hon. Baronet might be obviated in the Committee. He was convinced, however, it would be better to leave it to the dis. cretion of Magistrates than to attempt to lay dOwn a precise rule in that House, which he thought would be found extremely difficult, if not impossi. ble. 'I he intention of the Bill was confir.ed to per_ sons receiving temporary relief, Every body knew that during a late period, a great number of persons had been compelled tq apply for, parochial relief, who, with the utmost indUstry, and most persever ing exertion, were unable to support their families. It surely would not be contended that these per. sons, because they were compelled, from the pres sure of the times and unavoidable circumstances, to apply for temporary relief, were therefore to be com pelled to wear an humiliating and disgraceful badge. This badge, however, they must wear, if the Ad of William 111. was to be carried striElly into exe cution : the present Bill, therefore, was merely in tended TO alleviate that stritness with resped, to p:.rsonS, who certainly ought not, in justice, to be disgras.ed by any such mark of humiliation. Sir W ILL I Am ELIORD explained. Lord GLENBERVIE shpported the Bill. The provision, of the AA of ill am 111. relative , to badges was, f e said, so odious in many parts of the Kingdom, that it was' not ,carried into efrea 19 any way kt • ha lever, Mr. M. A. TAY LOR also spoke in favour of the Bill. Many poor Men had, he said, come before him, in the course of the execution of Ihs duties as a Magistrate within the last two years, who had 'made it appear satisfadorily . to him, that though they earned ft - hill rss. to zos. per week, they were uia ne even to. purchase brad for their fitmilies. It Nv.:s surely not the spirit of the Lawt, that ttiose'men shoi.d be disgraced for ever, by being compelled to wear an humiliating badge. The true spirit of the Law was, that those men who could support their a nd would nor, should be compelled to wear a badge as a inark..of disgrace. The latter case, however, was now pro4iided for ; any Magistrate, upon a man being brought before him; who refused to labdur fOr the support of his family, might coin, wit that man as a Vagrant. The whole provision of the Ad, theref.;re, , relative to badges; was now become unnecessary. There was also another class of persons upon whom the humiliation of wearing a badge wi:uld fall peculiarly hard ;`he meant those who having lived creditably and decently, were compelled, in their old . age, to seek parochial . re lief. Upon; the whole, he said, the Bill should have his weirdest support, though he thought it did not go far errough, and that the whole restriction reld t ive to badges ought to ho abolished. bit W!;.LIAM I:14okt) again,explained. .5,114 W LEFEFRE, we, understood, oh_ jctled to th sill, bur we could not hear distindly what he said. Mr. C ALCRAFT contended, that the right of the Poor to be relieved, when in distress, w 4 s their inberit,ince, and that therefore apy ,badge of hthni liation upon such an occasion was .Tecul'iarly irn- proper. Mr. SHAw LEFE V R E explained. The Bill was Olen ordered, to be read, a second time on Wednesday. - SUPPLY. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order- of the Day for the House to re solve itself into a Committee of Supply, and moved that the account of Monies issued by His MAJESTY in pursuance of Addresses of that House, and - not made good by Parliament, and the account present ed by Mr. N. V ANSI TT ART on the 19th of No vember should be referred to the said Committee. — Ordered. _ _ Mr. ALEXANDER having taken the Chair, - The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the, following Grants to His MAJESTY, for Sums pad: out of the Civil List on account of the Public Service, which were severally voted. To the Commissioners for the purchase of Buildings for the accommodation of both HouseS of Parliament, - • - zoo o 0 For the Expences of publishing the average • prices of Sugar and Ricer in the Gazette. For the Expenqs of making . A bStracis of the Population of Great Britain, For additional Allowances to certain Officers, for the Expellees of the Thames 'Police Of, flee, - - For the Expences of carrying into effect the Aet of 41st Geo. 111 . for taking an Ac count of the Population of G reat Britain, To., George Rose, Es 9. for the Expences of • the Parliament Office, - To Lord Walsingham, for his attendance as Chairman of the Committees in the House of Lords, - For .Expenees attending the Inquiry into the state of Cold Bath-fields Prison, . To Mr. Wyatt, for certain Expencm relative to both Houses of Parliament, - - - For Sums issued by His Majesty, in pun: suancee of Addresses of the House not made good by Parliament, - - CIVIL LIST. 06 It., o leo 0 0 2750 19 0 1500 0 C 11 5 14 o 354 11 9 2701 9 0 so ii 6 500 0 0 14,019 14 II The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, as the Committee had just agreed to certain Resolutions for making good certain Sums issued out of the Civil List for the Public Service, he wished to call their attention to the difficulties in which His Majesty's Civil List was at present in volved, and the means of meeting and providing for those difficulties. It was with great satisladion he assured the Committee, that upon looking into and comparing the Estimates for the different Classes under which the heads of expence were arranged for fifteen years past, with the sums originally allotted for those services, there appeared every . indication of the most stria and rigorous economy. The different heads were, the Royal Family, Foreign Ministers, Judges, Great Officers of State, Pensioners, Trades men's Bills, &c. Under the first of these heads, namely, that, of the Royal Family, there had only been an exceeding in two years, in . every other year the expenditure was below the Estimate. He would not go through all the Classes, but it was sufficient to mention, that under another head, namely, that of Pensions, there were only two instances in which the payment§ had exceeded the allowance. When it was considered what the increases .expense in all the modes of living had been, during great part of the period he alluded to,' it must 'be matter of asto nishment ro every liberal, refleaing and just mind, that the excess-had not been greater. lie was sure it must be the Wish of that House, that His MA ) ESTY. and the Royal Family , should not be placed' in point of splendor and comfort, below what they were entitled to by the arrangement adopted in the year 1731. He was sure he spoke the sentiments of that Great Personage (whose heart was warmed with benevolence towards every class of his Sub jets, and who experienced no pang more acutely than svheti any additional burden was imposed upon his People), when he said, that His MAJESTY did not wish for more, and he only did justice to the House when he said, they would not give less. He had reason to believe, that he shottld be authorized from that quarter, to . make a CommOnication to Parliament upon this subjed, very early after the Recess. He should then propose,. that a Committee should be appointed fully to investigate this matter, and then the House would know the Expenditure of the Civil List, and how the difficulties had been occasioned. The House would then be enabled to 'take the proper measures to relieve the present dif ficulties, and to prevent their recurrence in future. He had thought it right to say thus much, for the purpose of drawing the attention of the House to the subjed, particularly to the situation of those upon whoM these difficulties fell with the severest pressure. He wished to mention it al*o, for the purpose of doing away an opinion .. which he hoped was not very general, but which still existed, that there had been improvidence in the management of the Civil List, He did not mean to say, that-in no • one instance greater economy could not have been pradised, but that upon the whole, there were the strongest indication of great vigilance and rigorous economy. He wished to take this opportunity of stating, a circumstance which must give the House great satisfaction, that he hoped means might be found of getting rid of 'these diftiOilties, without any_ additional charge upon the Public. •He was sa tisfied, that by a prudent arrangement of the Colo nial Property belonging to His Mist EsTy, that ob, jest Might be 'effeEted. He did not state thiS with absolnte confidence, but as his firm opinion. He begged that Gentlemen would turn this in their minds previous to the period when they would re ceive a Communication from His MAJESTY upon the subject. In coming to a decision upon this sub jet, he was. sure they would not be wanting in af fedion and veneration for His MA J ESTY, and the warmest attachment for his Family, nor would they ,be deficient in those well-grounded feelings of con- Stitutional duty, which called upon them to support the splendor of his illustrious House, as closely connected with the dignity, the honour, and the best interests of this Country. The Hoase then resumed, the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow, and the Committee to sit again on Wednesday. The Committee of Ways and Means was post, poncd till Wednesday. DISTILLERY. Mr.N. F ANSITT ART said, he wished to call the attention of the }Anse fora moment to a sub,ic4 which was of some importance : he alludt.d to tl:c Distilleries. It was his intention to propose to the House ro-mnrrow, the :redklion of•the Duties upon Spirits d istilled from Melasses and Sugar, with, a view .of bringing those articles more into use for the purpOses of distillation—a measure which, if car ried into execution, would have the effed of de creasing the consumption of Wheat in the Mill leries, and consequently tend to the benefit of the Public. He concluded by moving for a CoMmittee of the whole House to-morrow, to consider of the Duties payable on Wort or Wash made from- Me_ lasses or Sugar fitr the Distillation of Spirits for home consumption.—Ordered. ,„_. Tile Committee on the, Exchequer Bills funding Bill was posponed till Friday. Adjourned at Five o'Clock. THE SUN. SOL Et, DICIRL FALEUM AUDZAT ? LONDON, NOVEMBER 24, 180;. THE Speech of the CHANCELLOR of the-E-x--- CIIEQUEIi. last night, on the .subjea of the Civil List, will be found .highly important, not only to those who, from their situation, are'interested in the discharge of the Arrears, but to the Public at large. it will be seen that a communication on the subjea is intended to be made shortly after the recess, and that by - a, prudent arrangement of the Colonial Property of Hts MAJ Esiy, it, is hoped the difficul ties may be removed without any additional charge upon ;His MAJESTY'S Subjeas. The adoption of such a measure will add another claim to those which the present Administration has to the gratitude of the Country. Three Hamburg', Mails still remain due. Yesterday Mr. NEWLAND went to the Stock- Exchange, to make known to those interested in the fundable Exchequer Bills, that the,CHANcut.. LOR of the Exc FQUER had extended ttiexeriod of their being sent in to be exchanged for Stock, •to Saturday ne;cr. The Rtyal George Excise Yacht, Capt. CARmi. cRAEL, with Their Graces the Duke and Dutehess ,of. MANCHESTER on board from Gordon Castle, arrived at Leith on Thursday.last. Eveiy article in Italy, and the whole of the South of Europe, has fallen considerably in conse quence of the Peace. Had not the praetice of Opposition Papers been so fully known, theTublic must doubtless have been greatly surprized at the barefaced assertion in one of those Prints which states, that Mr. ADDINGTON had not the shadorw of a prrrcacc for renewing the suspension of the Habeas Corpus and Martial Law in Ireland. It can scarcely be owing to forgetful ness, or inadvertency, that such an assertion ap. pears in a Paper which detailed the Report of a Committee. that, on the strongest grounds imaginable, recommended the aLloption of the firSt, and in serted the Debates in Parliament which powerfully urged the necessity, of the latter. This proceeding, it is added, was warmly opposed by Opposition, su have all the noblest acts of Administration; and perhaps this is not the least proof of their excel lence. But 'who else opposed it ? Were not the Irish Members in both Houses unanimous in warmly supporting it, as . the only expedient that Could pre serve the domestic tranquillity of the Country ? And shall Opposition Scribblers, who scarcely know more of Ireland than they do of Tartary, pretend to be better informed upon this, subje& than Mi nisters, or than the Gentlemen of that Country who felt the pecessity of the measure ? The man who is obliged to live in Ireland will, on this occasion, think with Government, and strenuously applaud an'expedient absolutely requisite for the proteCtion of the loyal, and the suppression of the' turbulent. If Mr. Addington, says this Paper, were to own he had aaed under a false impression, and that these restrictions were unnecessary, we should praise his " If to be foolish constitutes the 'wisdom of Opposition, the paragraph herein no ticed may pass without further remark. Suffice it to say, that Mr. ADDINGION possesses the appro bation and unbounded confidence, of every man who •has the dearest interests of his Country at heart, and will continue to he supported in every measure .so wisely concerted for the welfare of his Country. The Chief Consul of France, who, while he main_ tained his hostility against this Country, was the objet of panegyric by our Opposition, is now honoured with their bitterest sarcasms, and most unqualified reproach. - During the recent rejoicings at Woburn on ac count of the Preliminaries of Peace being signed, twenty fat sheep were distributed among the Poor of the town, eight of which were presented by His Grace the Duke of BEDFORD, and the remaining twelve were purchased by a subscription , raised among the inhabitants. - - - Mr, BECKFORD'S State Bed, which cost zsool. has been bought by Mr. Dimon), fdr 8o guineas, for the purpose of being converted into a State Box for THEIR MAJ ESTIES, at Bath. Would it not have better suited his Selene Highness the PRINCE Of ORANGE ? It is quite surprizing that Mr. l'oßsotv should be / so confidently persuaded that there could be no War without people to fig/t, since he had ingenuity enough to discover that it might be possible to hear without sounds. At Croydon the other day, a Gentleman and Lady .had invited a large party to dinner, when, just as the meat was setting down, the Cook was taken up, by the Parish Officers for having dre,ssed a banding without matrimonial sauce ! Saturday a baker was convifted at the Public office, Worship street, of selling bread deficient in weight, and tined 21. t s. 6d. NAVAL. NEWS 11.9 RUIC 11, Nov. z 3 . THERE not being a Post-Office Packet arri‘edi the Hamburg!' and Bremen Mails of Saturday vier ° this morning fOrwarda from hence in a fast sailing Vessel; specially hired for - that ptrpo,e. A Me'' "senger with Dispatches, and several Passengers) embarked with the Mails, and Proceeded to 0 with a tiVour"able wind. His Mdjesty 4 s Ship Concueror, of 74. guns, wa launched from hence this day. The tempestotv weather yesterday and the day before F el-elite.' the launch from taking place. *Six o'Clock Evening.—No Packet arrived. Several vessels are come into Harbour, having sustained damage - by the gale of yesterday. PORTSMOUTH, )Nov. z 3. ARRIVED last evening from Quebee, the sill? Quebec, BAYLEY ; also off Lymington, the shiP l Alliance and Euretta, from Quebec : these s hip') with others, left Quebec under convoy of His jesty's Ship Reristance„ and parted company in' gale of wind on the tgth-inst. - , Arrived from London, the solhia, AsiiiNGTO 4 for Demerara ; Neptune, SER I EANT, for Malts° rat ; and Aurora, ME YR I CIC, for the South Seas. DOPER, Nov. 22. E Quebec Fleet passed to-day for the flown' all well. Several Passengers landed from the E 4 J l ' retry and Reliance.. It is not said that they WI any news of consequence, but all the Passenge r agree that the harvest 11113 been uncommonly 1 0 ; duclive ; a finer or more plentiful crop of wh° 3 was never known. Lord MINTO landed yesterday morning, a r) i i went off for London ; he came in the Princess it,:c4 Packet, Capt. HAMMOND. The wind now be l North, nothing can get out of Calais. Came small Vessel from Grave Send, with passengf2rs' bound to Calais, but could not make their passagc• NAVAL PROMOTIONS AND •APFotwmtEzrr- c ' ifi Captain Wallis to "the Achille, vice Buller ; Cart 'Dae - res, -- of the Dc Ruyter to La Desire-e, 166= v . : man, and Capt. V._ V. Ballard, to the De Ruyte' o ' Captain -T. Smith, to the ; Captain Block, the Adventure ; Cain*. Mansel l late First Lid l tenant of the Kent, pro ter:pore; to the Tygrf,' Captain New, to the Bonetta, vice Maughan, ceased ; Lieutenant W. Fitzgerald, to the Ardeo t ' Lietitenant . Douglas, to. the "lemeraire ; M ess rs r e ; ter Rigby, John Little, Samuel Clark, Geo . ll Willis, Thomas Mitchell, Samuel Brown, and ti t ' ward White, Midshipmen, are -maaa. Lisal nants ; and Mr. G. Luke and Mr. Symonds, Mt d' of the Endymion, are also made Lieute; nants ; the former to the Pompee, and the latter La Fleche. The following Ships of War have joined the Squ ° ' dron in Bantry Bay : Princess Royal, Achilles, Majestic, • Centaur, Hyena, and five other Frigates_ • In time of Peace, the Ships in Ordinary at "e 3„, Port are divided into six, eight, or more Divisi c ' s ; and a superior Officer to each Division, appoi nr f , from the list of Masters ; each Ship has one 1 0 "; one Boatswain, cne Gunner, one Carpenter, and Cook, with their servants, and the following 14 ber of Seamen, viz.— • - gE Guns. - 74 Ditto, - 74 Ditto. - 74 Ditto. Men. zoo Guns and upwards, 36 So Guns 44 - 38 or 28 4 or 20 Sloops - 3 2 - 30 - 20 MR. BARCLAY. The following letter sent by the a b°l Gentleman, since his return to Scotland : To MT. BARTHOLONIAN, EDITOR OF 'nit I°l°C Dear Sir, litaALD. Permit me, through the medium of your paper, to e l e grl the high gratitude I feel for the very polite and att o 4 behaviour I experienced from all ranks during El' ro tal: perforMance of my in itch, against time, on tile loth a t Al Indeed, the generous attention I received while by Smith's, the anxious solicitude and cone.ern stte„bstrt on the above thy, that nothing should interrupt or " a , 0 the course—and the handsome treatment 1 afters° fog with troin the inhabitants, in returning home - throughpti lington and other places, have left on my memory an sion of such grateful .sentiments, as death only can er a I beg to remain, dear Sir, Much your's and theirs, 11 . Ury, Scotland, Na'. 17, ;Sol. R. BAR CI • On Monday se'nnight Mr. STEPHEN 1;- 0; t : gaVt a free benefit at the Theatre Royal) 1%4 1 1 castle, to 'the Infirmary there. The receiotp s ` ri e , was 931. Its. he paid into the hands of the surer. The receipts at the benefits during the after-55 son at Liverpool Theatre, which closed on the LQ inst. were as folloW Riley, 1711• ; I ; Mr. Turpin, 121. ; T o ms, o \f cl i u Messrs. Crumpton and Moorehead, r3' 01.. i Walstein, ' ; Mr. Rock, 1301. ; Mr :P t t 04.1. ; Miss Duncan, 1781. ; Mrs. Kenn ed y )l°;' and Mr. G.:•ant, 2+ol. A duel took place at Gosport on the 1 9 th 1 1 1 between Mr. FRANKLIN, of Boston, And i IVIACNAMAIttA, of Barbadoes. It orig inatem,l understand, in some insult offered by the formal a Lady at the Playhouse the preceding even in g4pt was under the protection of the latter. Mr. ',eic NANIARA insisted on 'an immediate a p olo g y 4l o made to the Lady, which Mr. FRAN-REIN re'p to do. A meeting was the remilt. Aft er tlje t irl fire, the seconds interfered, and . the partie s re from the ground good friends. • COU AT the gte.brougl h 4 l - bee n c brought up C ourt, for , The ells( the time h had remanC. leg what t hem ; pr, names wen The C proceeded W trials This i !rafted th it ?Lerestin e u ," l ler sh i; tive a rc!stin an there: t r " r n lure h :Ting oL ilat the) ‘ 11 "e it fi ke have :tilt we sh 4.llPortant Lo r a „7fore hir t the Siti id, that ti ty fra udule nt le ?lai n ti I nd col