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LITERATURE. THE WESTMINSTER AND FOREIGN QUARTERLY REVI.Ii W. No. XCIII. and No. LXX V Not the most effectively finished, but certainly the most interesting paper, in this double quarterly, is the one, half-critical, half-bloaraphical, upon the character, the abilities and the literary productions of Rudolph T c pff er . Dissent, however, we must, from un opinion expressed by the reviewer at the outset of his paper, to-wit "that Richelieu, though a great statesman, was an execrable poet. To our thinking it would have been more correct to have said Riche lieu was no poet at all. Who can forget his trum ipery attempt to induce Pierre Corneille to pawn a portion of his dramatic glory ? Who can ever forget the incid en t a b ou t Tke'Cid? Richelieu an execrable poet ? We prott st again distinctly that the great Cardinal was as much a coryphEe as a poet. We not only marvel with the reviewer that .Geneva, or he :might have said Switzerland in its totality, "so illustrious in other respects for its intellectual fe'tility, has hitherto produced very little in the department of imaginative .literature," but we wonder that in a region so eminently calculated to enkindle artistic enthusiasm, no really wonderful painter has ever appeared. 'Why, the landscapes would seem to arouse the emula tion of a thousand Salvator Rosa's—the domestic primitiveness a race ofTeniers—the historic scrolls a whole generation of Titians. France has her Poussin, Spain her Murillo, England her Hogarth, Flanders her Ruhens, Dutchland her Ostade, America her West, Italy her Buonarotti, her divine Raphael, her incomparable Lionardo, her Caraccis, her Corregio, her Domenichino, her Guido, her Paul Veronese, her Guilio Romano, but Switzerland —! In romantic literature, as just observed, she is almost a blank. Stars have risen over her mountains, however, to beacon after emulators along:that highway of art, and not the least bright amongst those is Rudolph Tiieffer. Born at Geneva, on the 17th of February, 1799, he has disappeared already, but he has left behind him fragments of genius which must excite the talents of his countrymen. Shelley called the broken sculpture of the ancients—such as the Elgin marble — the despair of modern art. The expression was an emphatic one—but true. The frag ments of imaginative literature left behind him by Topffer, will not so much excite feelings of despair in his posterity, as those of admiration, and, what is better, emulation. The reviewer in the Foreign Quarterly has done well in introducing this natural 'romancist, or rather novelist, to the attention of those English readers, who are, as yet, unacquainted with his compositions—particularly with his " Presbytere," his " Bibliotheque de men Oncle," and his "Rose et Gertrude.' "Persian Poetry" is an attar of rose c.ontribution, suggested by a very graceful work, by Miss Louisa Stuart Costello. A companion article is 'Ale one entitled "Birds of Jamaica." Bookworms 'will alone read the " Trial of the Earl of Somerset," .nd Quakers will alone find attraction in the " Life c.f George Fox ;" to both classes respectively, we c ommend them therefore. From the critical notice of lrs. Butler's " Year of Consolation,' we cannot re sin, t requoting one of the quotations, descriptive of the Ayollo Belvidere : "From the moment I set my feet in the Vatican I As possessed with a sort of nervous terror, lest I should Ue utterly disappointed in it: this feeling increased with es-ery chamber I entered, to such a degree as to cause .e to feel absolutely sick with excitement; I feared to look round each new room, lest I should confront this tgreat divinity, and remained unmoved; each time I ex perienced a sense of absolute relief when I found that 'tie had not yet reached that shrine; and I believe, if it bad been proposed to me to leave the Vatican without sfeeing the Apollo at all, I should have been well pleased !to have done so; and yet for all future time I shall know better. All that has been written, all that has been said, all that has been copied in drawing, painting, or sculptur e , n its beauty uni m p a i red; of this won d er f u l statue , h as l e ft the marvel za no fort knowledge can prepare grac f , or it, nor any d ewr i ption g i ve one an id ea o f its t. h bloom of its divinity, could believe the legend of the girl wh o died for love of it; for myself, my eyes swan) in tears, and my knees knocked together, and I could hardly draw my breath while I stood before it; the guides held up torches to show the light through the marble drapers, while I was dazzled with the light shining through the marble face; and the French lady emitted opinions in a v o i ce as s b ar p as needle points. 1/1e aven! what a witness to the gory of the human soul is such a conception as this! Man's thoughts devised.• lasn's fingers wroug h t t hi s go d! Thi s per f ect crea ti on ad its origin in the yet fairer idea of a man's brain, for who ever yet worked as he imagined! There was a lovelier and a grander shape in the mind of him who made this, than even this that he bas made! Oh, well maY vve thank the only true God for being formed 'capable of such things. I have no words to speak my Sense of gratitude for these new revelations of beauty and of grace, vouchsafed to me in this the very mourn ing -time of my life; angels have ministered, do minister, to me incessantly, and this enchanting presence, this divinity of the beauty-worshipping heathens, is to me a Very messenger of my God, bidding me bless him who bath permitted me to behold it." "International Law," and the " Currency principles," are the two political papers of the number, and a inuLitude of miscellaneous notices, complete the Westminster and Foreien Quarterly. This number is one of the least meritorious that has been published for a considerable period. ?'.HE CHURCH Op ENGLAND QUARTERLY REVIEW. No. We cannot afford a better conception'of the diver sity and character of the papers contained in this quarter of the Church of England Review, than by e numerating the different contributions. Firstly, The re is an argumentative and elaborate article on " The Church of the Future." Secondly, there is a chapter of Asiatic interest, upon " China : Political, Commercial, and Social." Thirdly, there is a con sideration of the progress and facilities of " Educe ti t ." in France,"—a matter of vital importance just s ow. Fourthly,there is a fantastic examination of Lord Lindsay's theory of " Progression by Anta • F"ism." Fifthly, there is a striking essay about Clerical Insufficiency and Church Reform." D lzt hlY, a communicative paper on " Church of England Poetry,"—rather braggart like in tone, but chat by-the-way. Seventhly, a misrepresentation o! The Manufacturing System," which will stir up the bile of the .Manchester population—if it he ever Perused by that portion of the community. Eighthly, tt prolonged and abusive outcry against " The Teachers of the People," from which we shall pre sently ma k e a quotation. .N inthly, a gossip anent " Travels in Peru" Tenthly, an argument on an old theme,_" Scriptur a l Geology." And an appen dix of " Notices of Books." We have particularly referred to an abusive outcry against " The Teachers of the P eop l e, " —it is an outcry most abusive and Most ignorant. Against whom in the name of common sense does the r ea d er i mag i ne i s this ignorant abuse directed c ? Wh o does he imagine to he here stigma tised as th e moral pests of the people ? Why, Elihu B_ urritt, th e e di tor and contributors to t h e P eop l e ' s Journal, the w r it ers for Jerrold Weekly Arezvspoper, Douglasouglas Jerrold hi mse lf, an d—Ch ar l es Dickens ! 0 Mistress Caudle, rise and vindicate thy creator ! 0 Sairey Gamp, leave the bottle on the chimbley-piece for once, which, unbeknown, you drinks from to the shade of Harris, and do likewise with thy frequent pardner, Betsey Prig. As a sample of this egregicus piece of absurdity, we transcribe the subjoined passages : " The Douglas Jerrold-school of socialism is clearly a foreign importation. It has done more to enervate the manly and truth-loving sentiments of the English mind than all the circumstances which have lately tended to depress the working man's coalition. It is one of the reaalta of that propagandism which France glories in es her special mission—which she initiated with the bloody mysteries of the guillotine and ministered to all Europe in fire, and sword, and desolation, by the brave but ferocious spirits of her Grande Armes. Though the maintenance of universal peace be assumed as a leading doctrine, yet antagonism to existing institutions is its object. Give tts di,ciples the same field, the like power, and a sufficient impellant motive, they would soon find themselves, with Eau Burritt's tivirind nonsense in their mouths, hesitating at no desperate dead which might comp e l the adoption of their creed. The moral and social regeneration of which they boast was baptised in blood, and must, some day or other, have its confirmation in deadly strife. These men are ever talking of moral force as that to which alone they trust for their social Conquests, though the forms of speech which they use are fierce and warlike enough. Moral force is all very f Well wh ere physical strength cannot be exerte d ; but, the issue of the great socialistic mission, which France advocates and apostate Englishmen adopt, is to rest on moral force alone, it is not difficult to predicate that it Will be one of failure, since moral force and right prin eiples must go together, and of the latter this socialistic mission is devoid. We are no advocates for the bigotries of nstionaity, but we respect and venerate the safe guards which it contains. Universal brotherhood, tra ternization, is a fa‘oarite phraze of the day ; but in Its Popular acceptation it means, we apprehend, an associa tion where all individual characteristics are to be destroyed in deference to a common principle. This contains tl e idol. of a confederation, but not of a family: it may have the semblance, but it never can have the spirit, of love, which can wily be originated in the f amily —be therein developed in its pristine energy — and thence disseminated through the multiform social r amifications and relltions which the very existence of family requires. To ask us to become nu English, that we m a y be the disciples of a system of which the for eign s(m.alist is the missionary, is tantam , Amt to re quiring _ t h at we e ff ace t h e i n di v id ua l c h aracter i st i cs willeh mark our p!stee in the great family of man; and it is just this end 'shish the Douglas Jerrold-school of r ill °SoPhy is aiming at. If it be efftctsd, men will e °_ °lnn confederate, but wilt newr be brethren: there .27 be association, but there will not be confidence; L"' e u the only bond that will hold tiem together will 110_°no ogresf elfish interest, and nct of holy affection. of wever at the evils of this day may be, the theories the reialictie writers will neither ameliorate nor remedy 1 4 4 h, They rnly goad the social 51,tFerer into madness, h net be able to cshn bir:, by an empty ( band, - vaLetici;: they Way pue, a weapon into his but, when they see him use it to the hurt of every one around him, they will not be able to school him into moderation by a laboured essay on the evils of intem parmee : their system has plenty of venom for inoculating with disease, but nit a single antidote : they can never write of a bishop without a sneer, nor of r(ligion without a jest: they strike at everthing that is venerable; and, if they have effaced many a right notion in the minds of their readers, we are sure they have never implanted a wholesome principle in its stead." For true philosophy, therefore, the people will henceforth know where to go—not to the truth-tell ing Jerrold—not to the native wisdom of Burritt— not to the blithe genius of Dickens—no, to the Church of England Quarterly Review. Remem ber that. THE WEST INDIES. SCHEDULE OF DUTIES To come into operation on the Ist. of August ensuing at Jamaica, in the event of her Majesty's assent being obtained to the Bill. S. D. Ale, beer, cyder, porter, or perry, per tun ... 87 0 Asses, per head ... ••• ••• 5 0 Beef and pork, salted or cured, and all cured meat, per barrel of 2001 b. ••• ,•• Bread or biscuit, per cwt. Bricks, per M. ••• •- Butter, per cwt. ••• ••. Candles, wax. spermacetti. or composition, per box of 561b5., ss. Tallow, per ditto... Cattle, neat, per head ... • • Cheese, per cwt. . . Cocoa, per cwt. ... ••• Coif. c, British, per cwt. Drugs ... 80s. per cent. ad val. Fish, dried or salted, per cwt. ... mackerel, pickled, per barrel a'ewivi s and lerrings, pickled, per be]. l.ickled fish, not otherwise descri bed, per brl. salmon, wet or salted, per brl. smoked, per cwt. ... herrings, smoked, per box Fish, smoked, not otherwise described, per cwt. 1 lour, wheat, per barrel ••• Ginger ..• 80e. p-r cent. ad val. Grain, per bushel ••• ••• ••• ••• Hams, bacon, dried beef, tongues, and sausages, per cwt. ••• Horses, mares, and geldings, per head ... Indigo, per lb. Lard, per cwt. ... - Meal or other flour (not wheat) per barrel Molasses, per cwt. Mules, per head Oil, blubber, fins, and skins, the produce of fish and creatures living in the sea, 100 s. per cent. ad valorem. Preserved meats, soups, vegetables, fish, and all other provisions in tin cases or other packages, 80s, per ct nt., ad val. Rice, per cwt. Ditto, undressed, per bushel Salt, per cwt. Sheep and goats, per head Soap, per box of 56Ibs. . Spirits—Brandy, ruin (except the produce of this island), gin, whisky, and all other spirits and cordials, per gallon Sugar, refined, per Swine, per head ... Tea, per lb. Tobaeco, manufactured, 6405. per cent., ad val., and 3d. per in. Ditto, uninanu lectured, 480 s. per cent., ad val., and 3d. per lb. Wines, in bulk, or bottled, per tun, 2905. and 140 s per cent, ad val., and 2s. 6d. per dozen, every dozen quart bottles wine. Wood, per M. feet pitch pine, by superficial measure of one inch thick ... ... 12 0 Ditto, per M. ft. shit pine, or other lumber ditto 8 0 Ditto, shingles,cypra as, longer than 12-in. per M. 8 0 Ditto, Boston clap-, and all ahit;gh s not other wise enumerated or described, per M. ••• o, Woodhoops, per M. ..• ••• ••• Ditto, staves, heading, red, or white oak, or ash, per M. •••• ... 2 0 Wheat, per bushel 0 6 Glass and silk manufactures-40s. per cent. ad val. Cotton, linen, woollen, leather, paper manufactures, mock jewellery, hardware, clocks and watches, corks, cordage, end oakum-40s. per cent. ad val. A 1 goods wares, and merchandise, Plantation supplies, clothing, and efftcts of every description not pre viously enumerated-40s. per cent. ad val. Exc, pt tt,e tollowinc, which shall not be liable to any duty under the Act:—Coals, coke, coin, bullion, books, and printed papers, diamonds, fresh fruit and vegetables, hay and straw, oil-meal, or cakes, as food for cattle, mulberry end other plants, cotton, wool, ice, fresh fish, turtle, poultry, fresh meat, leeches, gums, resins, tor toiseshell, resins, guano and other manures, singing birds, dogs, specimens of natural history, army clothing, slates, regimental necessaries, raw hides, hemp, flax, and tow, sarsaparilla, and dyewood. Molasses and unrefined sugar of foreign manufacture are prohibited. ... 20 0 ... 4 0 ... 4 0 ... 12 0 ... 2 0 4 0 ... 7 0 ... 10 0 ... 20 0 ... 2 0 ... 4 0 2 0 4 0 ... 8 0 ... ... 10 0 0 6 4 0 6 0 0 3 ... 10 0 ... 20 0 .. ... 0 3 ... 7 0 ... 1 0 ... •.• 3 0 ... ... 10 0 ... ... 4 0 ... ... ... 1 0 ... ... ... 0 9 ... ... .. 2 0 2 0 ... 6 0 - 0 2 2 0 ... 1 0 4 0 1 0 r~ ~3~ i c;,,, ?',:.' ~- ~:,r: A r li ~' f; yA CARDINAL RULES FOR RAILWAY MANAGEMENT. Had these rules been strictly followed how many millions might have been saved, and how many direful accidents prevented. Every line of railway should be uniformly straight and lev( I. Every rail should be convex, in order to Oiminish the friction, and thereby insute economy in the constant work on railways in each direction throughout the year. The wheels of locomotive engines in pat titular, as well as of all other carriages, should have a true perpendicu lar bearing so as to avoid all lateral strain, which now tends so generally to the destruction and rapid wear and t ear of rails. Down and up trains to be scrupulously confined to their respective lines of railway, and on no account whatever to be allowed to interfere with each other. Every railway should be of the same uniform gunge throughout the country. Had these plain rules, so enthusiastically reiterated by me on all occasions to the Government and public gene rally been earl jell into execution, how much more cheer ing would the s! are lists he to the r -speetive sha•eholders. The common interest of the public in railways is pa ramount and must command the determined ir:fluence of the legislature over the silly clamour about the vested rights of railway companies. Most assuredly the public, by and from wham alone the railway companies can prosper, a ill never succumb to the present arbitrary rates and fares. The miserably declining stare of railway property can only be improsed by ad.)pting rules of common sense, intelligible to the meaneit capacity. The lowest tariff of rates tied hires possible will unerr ingly guide us to the most permeuent state of prosperity, and would infallibly increase the revenue in a tenfold degree. One quarter of the rates and farts now charged w.li eventually ba condemned as exorbitant and intol erable. Let the same economy be practised on railways which characterises the appliercion of steam power foe the mil lion in our manufactories, and on boat d our vessels, and the welfare 01 all classes will be universal. These rules are so impartial to all that none but the ignorant or arrogant will dare to dissent from them. All railway companies, however wealtll or importlnt, will nevertheless bend to put.li opinion, and more particu larly so as they' will find it their inv.riable interest to secomuodate their only customers to the utmost.- 1 humus Gray. the " Railway Pioneer.•' DEVONPORT REGATTA. HANDSOME PRIZE FOR, co.APEnnoN. At this Regatta, which takes place on Wednts lay, July 28th, we have much pleasure in stating that a hand some cup, presented by her Majesty and Prince Albert will be competed for. This mark of royal favour will, doubtless, be followed up by others, perhaps not to so large in amount, but still sufficient to render this regatta one of surpassing eclat and pleasure. The following letter was received by Mr. Joseph Beer, the Honorary Secretary of the Regatta, announcing the int, , ntioa of her Majesty : "37, Curzon-street, July 5, 1847. "Sir,—ln reply to your letter of ale Ist inst.. I have much satisfr cti ,n in informing you that her Majesty and P. ince Alb , rt have been most graciously pleased to give a Cup, to be contended for at the approaching regatta this year, at Devonport! I trust that this mark of R tyal (..your will be duly appreciated by the residents, to whom I have much pleasure in making the announce ment, through you.—l am, Sir, your obedient servant, " H. TUFFNELL." " Mr. J. Beer." CAUTION.—GOLD WATCNES AND JEWELLERY.-- Caution is often necessary to be observed in our dealings with entire strangers. We have received a communication to the following effect, which shows the necessity of this :—a well-dressed person, calling himself the son of a P o li s h C ount and refugee, has tor some time past been about the country in various direc tions, taking advant age o f persons wath by persuading them foldto allow him to leave 010 Having accomplished that, the watches, &c., on approval, r ia st t intimation hi e s dupes afterwards receive is aletter ci usually from some M o saic solicitor, requesting imtne f"unaun of before the parties have time to reply,et paym en t ; an d a writ" is served upon them for the a tllhee copy amount. So well does he spread his net, that if only touch, they are entan g led in the trap set for them. The decoy which he mostl y uses in the fi rst instancee is, to represent himself as the son of a Polish Cc unt in distress (his parent) whom he is supporting by his exertions. lie then states that he is the agent of a society formed to encourage young people to save their money, and that on buying his gold watches, he wants no money until he calls again, his object being to further the interests of the society, &c. His first aim in coming into a neighbourhood is usually to search out the church clergymen, and, if possible, to have some dealings with them so as to become possessed of their names, end the names of its many of the respectable parishioners as possible. This 'done, his game com mences. Such has been the extent of the fellow's peculatiocs, that justice to society demands we should place the unwary on their guard, fur the watches ire not worth in common, more than half. the prices earged, and the parties are tql. often iii duced to pay foii them at the exorl i ant price, together with their costs of the writ, &c., ratio r than. suffer exposure of their folly, or run the risk of a trial with a man who, even in the event of their whiling, would pro bably- have decamped out of the country, and be nowhere to be found. We he bear to mention the man's name, hoping this hint may be sufficient to put a stop to his c6re ,, r, by awaktraing the suspicion of the public.— Leeds , cur 6ir Bcllin;harn GrPhata bus be3ti elected Vice . Commodore of the iloya Yacht Squadron, in the room of the Marquis of Donegal. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 15. Their Lordships assembled at Five o'clock. MUSSEL FISHERIES BILL. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition against this Bill from a place in Scotland, which he characterised as ene of the most incredible pieces of legislation ever sought to be perpetrated. The petition which the Noble Lard said was most respectably signed, besought their Lordships not to pass the Bill. The Noble Lord said he felt very much disposed to move that the Bill be read a second time this day three months, during which period the muss Fla might remain undisturbed, but he should refrain from doing so.—(Laughter.) JUVENILE OFFENDERS BILL. On the motion of Lord DEVON, their Lordships pro ceeded to consider the reasons of the House of Commons for disagreeing to certain of the Lords amendments with respect to this Bill. _ _ _ The Marquis of WESTMINSTER considered that their Lordships had adopted a very unwise course in ex punging the clause which left it to a person brought be fore a magistrate to elect whether he should be sum marily committed or tried by a jury. Lord BEAUMONT agreed with his Noble Friend, and regretted that the alterations complained of had been made. The subject then dropped. (A motion was put from the chair sun carried, as we understood, but its nature, or, in fact, what became of the matter, we were utterly at a loss to divine, from the low tone in which Noble Lords spoke. It would seem that many Noble Lords are determined that their proceed ings, no matter how much they may affect the public, should not reach_the.p,i2blic)„ NEW SOU'T'H WALES. Earl GREY presented a petition from New South `Yates, pra) ling for an independent form of Govern ment. The Noble Earl said the subject was ono which would receive the serious attention of the Government before the next session. POOR SUPERVISION BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed with some amendments. POOR-LAW ADMINISTRATION BILL. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the third reading of this Bill. Lord BROUGHAM objected to the Bill being further proceeded with this session, as, without its aid, the law could be administered until next session; and during the recess and next session they would have more time to consider the new powers which this Bill proposed. It was ssid that the salary of the Poor-law Commissioner, who was to sit in Par liament, was to be 2,0001. a year, but it ought either to be increased, or reduced at the option of the Government. Now such an officer ought to be placed in a more independent position ; he certainly would have no easy task to perform. He should, therefore, propose that the Bill be read a third time this day six months. He hoped that Mr. Chadwick mai Captain Nichols, who were in fact the authors of the system, would still be employed in the administration of the law. They would be removed as a matter of course, if this Bill were passtd without compensation. This would be unfair to them and to others connected with the Poor law Commission, as they had borne the brunt of all the labours and odium of the offices which they had held. No term that could be culled from time English dictionary was spared upon them—they were dictators," " hard-hearted, ' and cruel." Com mon charity was not even exercised towards them ; and had the other commissioners stood as firm in the administration of the law. and as heedless of public clamour, as Mr. Chadwick and Captain Nicholls, the law would have been better administered. He thought it right to say this in their behalf, as he had induced Captain Nicholls to give up an office worth 2,500/. a year to take his present cffice ; and was he and Mr. Chailesiek, who had collected the materials out of which they had framed all the Poor-law Bills, to be left penniless The BISHOP of LONDON said the merit of the poor-law ass mainly due to Mr. Chadwick, who pos sessed tl - e facility of making himself master of every subject into which he entered. No doubt the differences between the Commissioners and Mr. Chadwick arose from his desire to carry out the law in all its integrity. He had read the correspondence on both sides, and he be lieved this was the extent of his fault, and he thought that he should not go unrewarded. It was understood that Mr. Chadwick should take an active part in the admi nistration of the Poor-law, and it was but natural that he should feel some dissatisfaction if, after a time, he found that his influence was not that which he expected. He would be an useful man to the public in particular depar.ments—in connexion with sanatory retorm, for instance. He had known Mr. Chadwick since the com mencement of the inquiry with respect to the Poor-law. and he considered that he hould not go unrewarded. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said, as a member of a board of guardians, and as one anxious to carry out the law, he wished to bear testimony to the high cha racter of Mr. Chadwick. He considered that the whole sale dismissal of the Commissioners would be grossly unjust. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the poor law was passed as a temporary measure, and the parties employed under it could not but look forward to some material alterations in it at a future period ; in fact, that it might undergo an entire change; and yet the commis sioners and others took their respective offices on these conditions. No expectation was held out that they would receise retiring pet sions—but he did not deny that they had that claim on the Government which motit must always have. The Act merely anticipated the termination of the commission by a few months, when the employment of all connected with the com mission would cease. The Parliament had had the power, during the whole time the commission had ex. isted, either to increase or to reduce the salaries of all the persons employed in connexion with the commis sion. —(Hear, hear.) The salaries were left out of the Bill, and placed entirely under the control of the House Commons.--(Hear, hear.) If any error had been committed, with respect to the salaries fur the new commissioners, it was that they were too low—(Hear, hear)—but they might be altered hereafter. He be lieved all connected with the commission had discharged their duty most conscientiously. Earl WICKLOW considered that the salary of a commissioner, „ho had a seat in Parliament, should not be increased or decreased at the caprice of the Le gislature—such a course was at variance with every precedent. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, in 1831 the salaries of the officers of State and others were reduced by the Treasury. Lord .',IONTEAGLE corroborated the statement of his Noble Friend. Earl GREY said the salary of the commissioner who %you'd have a seat in Parliament, would be the same as the President of . the Board of Trade. Their Lordships then divided, when there appeared— F the third readine - ~ ' jr the For the amenclii.ent . Majority The Bill was then read a third time and passed. The following Bills were then read a second time : Herring Fishery (Scotland) Bill—Post-office Bill—Na vigation (No. 2) Mussel Fisheries Bill (Scotland) — Drainage of Lands (Ireland) Bill—Stock in Trade Ex omption all—Polling at Elections Bill—Joint Stock Companies Bill. The Compensation for Damages Bill (Ireland) passed through Committee. The following Bills were read a third time :—Ec clesiastical Jurisdiction Amendment Bill —Railways (Ireland) Bill, No. 2—Fishery Piers and Harbours Bill (Ireland) —Turnpike Roads (South Wales) Bill—Canada Consolidated Revenue Fund Bill—Print Works Bill — Shannon Navigation (Ireland) Bill—London Bridge Railway Termini—General Enlargement Bill. Their Lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Julyls. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Three o'Clock. CONSIDERATION OF REPORTS. The reports on the following Bids w.-te considered and agreed to:—Salisbury and Yeovil Railway; South ampton and Dorchester Railway (Blandlord Branch). SECON D R FADING. The Dean and Chapter of Westminster's Estate Bill was read a second time, and orderrd to be commiteed. THIRD READING. The St. Abuyn's Estate Bill was read a third time. LORDS' AMENDMENTS. The Lords' amendments to the following Bills were considered and agreed to:— Eastern Counties Railway (Wisbpacb to Spalding). Eastern Union Railway (Branch from Manuingtree to Har wich). Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway, and A) rshire and Bridge of Weir Railway (No. 3). Great Northern Railway (Deviations between London and Grantham). Kingston-upon-Hull Dock Company. LQominster Canal Navigation Sale. London and North-Western Railway (Ormskirk and Rainford Branch, &c.) Mar:chester and Birmingham, and North Staffordshire Junction Railway. Oldham Alliance Railway. Swansea Harbour. Taw Vale Railway and Dock (Deviations and Bideford and South Mol'on Branches). York and North Midland Railway (East Riding Canals Pun base). PRIVATE BUSINESS. On the motion of ilfr: GREENi,tcefollowing reso lutions were agreed to:—Thut the Examiner of Petitions have leave to sit and proceed on the Dean and Chapter of Westminster's Estate Bill forthwith, and to report this day.—On the report from the Examiner of Peti tions on the Dean and Chapter of Westminster's Estate Bill, being brought up, and on the all being read a second time, to move, that it be an instruction to the Committee of Sehction to appoint the first sit ting cf the Committee to-morrow, and that the Committee have leave to_ report upon Monday.—That Dundas' Estate Bill be read a second time this day, and that it be an instruction to the Committee of Selection to appoint the Committee on the said Bill to meet to morrow, and that the Committee on the Bill have leave to report forthwith.—That the Committees on Newhart (or Gravenor's) E,tate Bill, Plters on ' s E state Bi ll, Hyl ton's Estate bill, Pensoo's Estate Bill, Manses Estate 1311, Lord '. 7 ard's Estate Bill, have leave to report to morrow. FREE CHURCH OF SCOTLAND. Mr. FOX MAULE presented a petition, signed by the Moderator of the Free Church and others, complain ing of a grievance under which a great number of hrtrehes were bAts b y the tot ttuns of those wh o indi viduals Scotland laboured : b l B l c a r t i , n b . e s fore •r 843, many churches now secedt;tl from the Established Church of Scot land, of the use of which they had been deprived by Assembly had guara c n o t u e r ed be t f li o c r u e gh the th l e ate G e neral seces sionthe dtehoeisiounin terrupteduse and command of them. The petitioners prayed the House to afford them some remed BISHOPRIC OF- MANCHESTER BILL. Mr. M. PHILIPS presented a petition from the MAyor and burgesses of Manchester against this Bill (as we understood). NAVIGATION .LAWS. Sir IL DOUGLAS presented a petition from Liver pool, signed by 1,500 shipowners, against any alterati, n in'theae laws; also a petition from Bat nstaplo to the same effect. POOR-LAW ADMINISTRATION BILL. Mr. BORTHWlCKinquired,in the event of the Bill coming down from the other House with any alterations, if the Government would fix an early day for their con sideration. Sir G. GREY said the Bill would no doubt come down from the House to-night, and he proposed to take the Bill either to-morrow or on Monday. Mr. HINDLEY said he was not satisfied with the reply. Would the Government stand by the resolution of the Hon. Member? Sir GEORGE GREY could state nothing more than he did the other night. Mr. BORTH WICK said he shonld feel it his duty to maintain the clause he h4d proposed, and which was carried, with respect to the separation of old couples, in all its integrity. LOANS TO IRISH LANDOWNERS. In reply to Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated that the money was voted long ago, and he was not aware that any delay had taken place in making the grants when applied for. .IiILITARY KNIGHTS OF WINDSOR—PRIVI- LEGE. Mr. B. CABBELL 'Tile Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department was repre sented in the public journals to have raid, with reference to this subject, that be (Mr. B. Cabbell) had entered ieto an arrangement to furnish the law officers of the Crown with p a p ers on t h e ma tter. He wished it to be distinctly understood that he gave a direct negative to such a charge. DEANERY OF MANCHESTER. Mr. HOUSMAN inquired if the Rev Mr. B o w er s, who had b een recent l y appo inted to the deanery of Manchester would b e a ll owe d to retain the post of rector of St. Paul's, Covent-garden. Lord JOHN RUSSELL stated that he bad consulted the Duke of Bedford on the subject of the Rev. Gentle. man's relinquishing the office which he held in St. Paul's, Covent-garden. He said he had given the ut most satisfaction, and that he was a very proper person to appoint to the vacant office, but as it might take a short tme to fill up the office, as the parish was a difficult one, he inquired if any inconvenience would re sult from his performing his duties for a short time until his successor could be appointed. He (Lord J. Russell) consented, as there was no immediate urgency for the Rev. Gentleman to enter upon his new duties._. (Hear.) Mr. HINDLEY said he bad been acquainted with the Rev. Gentleman for some time, and he believed his ap. pomtment would afford the utmost sat'sfaction. PERTH, FORFAR, AND ABERDEEN POST-OFFICES. Mr. T. DUNCOM BE wished to ask the Chancellor en the Exchequer what was the reason that the mails from the populous counties of Perth, Wrier, and Aberdeen were detained at the Post-office of Inverness for sixteen or seventeen hours daily, when on their way to the inhabitants in the fishing stations, on the sea coast of the large counties of Ross, Sutherland, and Caithness. where the people were very sparingly employed and ie great poverty and distress, but which the delays and bad management of the Po=t-office tended to aggravate. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER com plained that the Honourable Gentlemen had not con tined his question to a specific matter, instead of blaming parties who were in truth not to blame. The fact was this : the! Aberdeen mail went across the country to Inverness in order to be carried on by the northern mail, and the same was the case with the Perth mail ; they were carried across the country by means of a cross mail ; but the opening of railways east and west cans , d th' se mails to be missed, and they had e,msequently to be carried on by the mails next day. Hence the delay. He admitted that th e part i es h a d goo d reason to complain, but as soon as arrangements could be made the evil would be remedied. The Hon. Gen tleman must be aware that all the cross mails could not be dovetailed to meet the main mails at a certain time, but nothing would be left undone to remove all reasonable cause of complaint. CONSOLIDATED CANAL. UND BILL. - ARGYLE Oa the motion for going into Committee on this Bill, Mr. S. WORTLEY regretted that th e Governnien% had felt called upon to withdraw so great a public work as the Argyle Canal, as he believed it would have been of the utmost advantage to that portion of Scotland which it would traverse. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER thought the work advisable, but a, the Government considered that the Bill could not be carr i ed this session, they had felt called upon to withdraw it. Mr. E. DENISON said, 2,000,0001. had been voted for the purprise of enabling proprietors of land to meet the di ffi culties that might arise from an alteration in the core-kws, by improving their land for the purpose of producing corn; but out of this large sum Scotland had received 1,600,0001., whilst but 400,000/. had been devoted to this purpose in England. He wished the House to bear this in mind before they consented to any addi tional grants. TREA IY BETWEEN GREAT BRITAIN AND THE NETHERLANDS. Lord G. BENTINCK called the attention of the House to the iutract;on, by the Dutch Government, of the treaty of commerce contracted in 1827 between Great Britain and the Netherlands, in respect to the trade and commerce of the eastern territories of both countries, and to ask Lord Palmerston if any remon strance has been made to the Government of the King of the Netherlands. Lord J. RUSSELL said he was unable to answer the question, but perhaps the Noble Lord would defer it till his Noble Friend the Secretary of State for Foriegn Affairs was in his place. Lord GEORGE BENTINCK said he would readily do so. THE T. DUN I c IE OA B I B RlT e l o S ul H pla tU ed SE tb U at M a . return which be had moved for, r, relating to the appointment of officers in the British Museum,and MO had been laid upon the table of the House with the terms of the order of the House. Now no app o i n t ment was valid unless sig n e d by the trustees—the trustees being the Lord Chancellor, the Speaker of the House of Commons' a nd the Arch. bishop of Canterb ur y ; b ut t hi s return did not specify whether this app o i ntment h a d been signed b) all the trustees or not. A C omm i ss i on h a d been appointed to inquire into the management hoped this Com m o i es i - point of inqui • n would make a into the reasons why this return had not been mede in the way the House had ordered it, and that they would ascertain whether the appointment h a dbee n made le gaby or not. Sir R. H. INGLIS was understood to say that the appointments had been signed by the principal tru s tee , ffi and that was quite sufficient in • law to make them legal. Mr. HUME said the return was certainly not in strict compliance with the order of the House. The Commis sten alluded to by his Hon. Friend had only met twice to arrange their mode of proceeding, but he had no doubt the Commission would not lose sight of the mature mentioned by his lion. Friend. CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL. The House then went into Committee on this Bill. The whole of the clauses were agreed to, and the House having resumed, the Cuatitereee reported pro gress, and the report was ordered to be brought up to morrow. TREATY BETWEEN GREA.T BRITAIN AN THE NETHERLAN DS. On the question being put for the third reading of the New Zealand Bill, the attention or the Noble Lord the Secretary of Lord GEORGE BENTINCK said he wished to call Sette for Foreign Affairs to an ulleged infraction of the treaty of the 17th of March. 18.24, signed by M r . Canning and the Right II•ne Charle4 Welkin Williams Wynn. The treaty provided that, with regard to their Indian possessions and the southern Archipelago, this country should be placed upon a looting with the most favoured nations. Such being the treaty of 1824, it was alleged by a commercial firm of the highest re spectability in Manchester, g ees es. Butt,-rworth, Brooks, and Co., that an iufraction of the treaty had been committed by t h e King of the Nether. lands, to the great it jury of the commercial interests of Manchester and this empire at large. It was alleged by them, that on the 20th of August, 1846, a treaty was contracted betwNeth een theerland King of the Belgians and the King of the s, affording a d van tages to the Belgianson which wared deniask ed to British subjects ; a nd the questi he she to his Noble Friend was, whether his attention fe , cl been called to the infraction of the treaty of 1824, and whether he bad made any remonstrance, to the Dutch Government, and w hether it was his intention to make any, or to obtain redress for B matters subjects ? Lord PALMEILSTON said the to which the Noble Lord referred had been some time under the consideration of the Government, and at the present moment it formed the subject of a negotiation between the Netherlands and her Majesty's Government. It was perfect • ly true, as was stated by the Noble Lord, that a treaty was come to in 1824 of the na ha e tso ar \ur mention( by the Noble Lord , and it was quite cle t long es th e advantages granted to Belgium were eithheld from British subjects, the provisions of the treaty would be unfulfilled. In fairness, nowever, to the Netherlands Government, it should he stated list a coun:er demand had been m ida by that Gevernmen:, founee(! open the treaty of 1837. They deinatided ter be admitted to the same pritileges which were greeted to Hanover. That was still the subject of to gotiation be tween the two Governments, and he trusted that the honourable feelings which he was sure animated the British Government, and he had no doubt inspited that of the Netherlands, would insure the conclusion of these negotiations upon a footing compatible with the interests of both nations.—(Hear, hear.) The subject then drowed. RELIGIOUS PERST:CUTION IN SPAIN „it 1,71) PORTUGAL. Sir R. H. INGLIS said he wished to put a question to the Noble Lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs with reference to the treatment of British Protestants in the , dominions of Spain and Portugal. It would be remem bered that Dr. Kelley was unjustly expelled from Madeira because he was a follower of the Protestant faith ; and as a cerrespondence had taken place upon the subject b?t,wee n her Mejt sty 's Gove-. i,, , teient and the authorities of Spain and Povugal, he wi s h e d to know t.f • the Noble Lord had any objeetion to lay th a t . 1 coirespon ' de .r , li'^ table of the House ? _11( , 0,1 l< , • L or d PALDIERSTON said the subject mentioned by • his Hon. Friend was one of great importance and no less ' delicacy; but there could be no doubt. that Dr. Killjoy had been unjustly treated, and some compensatiot was due to him from the Portuguese Government for the insults and outrages ho had been subje c t e d to . Dr. Kalley was obliged, for his personal safety, to quit. An examination was afterwards ins'ituted, and the Governor and Lieutenant-Governor had been dismissed for their excesses on that occasion. A trial of others of the ringleaders took place, but from the con stitution of the jury, and the high position of some of their families, they had been acquitted. Dr. Kalley at present stood in this position. He was at present in England ; he had had his property in Madeira restored to the person authorised by himself to take pos session of it. But Dr. Kalley had now made a demand of compensation for all the injuries he had received. He (Lord Palmerston) had asked the particular grounds on which he founded his claim, and the amount at which be placed it, but he had es yet received no answer. The natter, therefore, res'ed with Dr. Kalley, and not with him. 1)r. Kalley had asked whether he might return to Madeira ? There was nothing to prevent his doing so but his own apprehen sions. lie trusted, therefore, that the Right Hon. Baronet would not press for the production of these par ors. Sir It. 11. INGLIS agreed to postpone his motion, and the subject dropped. THIRD READINGS. _ The Militia Pay Bill was read a third time and passed; as was the Trustees Relief Bill, after a few words from Mr. JOHN STEWA RT. BISHOPRIC OF MANCHESTER BILL. On the order of the day that the House go into Com mittee on this Bill being read, Mr. FRE IN EN rose to ask the consent of the House to the withdrawal of the following clause, which he had wished to be inserted in the Bill:—And be it further enacted, that from and after the death of the present Archbishop of Canterbury the patronage of the several advowsons of Rochdale, in the county of Lancaster, and of Blackburn, in the said county, now held and enjoyed by the Archbishop of Canterbury for the time being. shall be separated from the see of Canterbury, and shall be held and enjoyed by the Bishop of Manchester for the time being, and his successors. And be it further enacted, that the right of presentment to the several perpetual curacies and chaplaincies, de• pendent upon and appurtenant to the said advowsons, hall, when the patronage of the same has vested in the said bishop, be separated from the incumbency of the said advowson, and shall vest in the said Bishop of Man chester, who shall thenceforth appoint directly to thi -ame as the same shall become vacant. The Hoti. MEMBER, after a few words, withdrew his motion. Mr. HUME said that he had occasion some short time ago to visit the Privy Council—(Laughter)—and he had met two bishops chuckling to each other. He had no doubt (now that the purposes of this Bill could not be mistaken) that the consent of the Government had been had to the violation of the compact en rered into with the bench of bishops. But no circum stances had arisen to justify this breach of compact. Great alterations had keen made in the laws in ftvour ,f civil and religious liberty within these few latter years. Dissenters now Gnarled more than one-half of the whole population of the United Kingdom, and he totally dis approved, in this state of circumstances, of the applica tion of the whole funds originally intended fur rdigious purposes to one sect or party alone. From a return wade to this house in the year 1828, it ap peared that there were 2,2G8 pluralities in con. flexion with the Church, and when he proposed a measure to abolish pluralities, and give a resident clergyman to each parish, he was considered as tie greatest enemy to the Church; the fact was, that had his motion been acceded to, it would have been found That in reality he proved himself to be the best friend to the Church by bringing forward that proposition. Then, with respect to the extravagant expenditure of the bishops on their palatial residences, it was most preps tenets. The House completely stultified itself by submitting to this enormous expenditure on the part of those who professed to be the descendants of the Apostles, but who said chat they could not live in anything else but palaces. He should most certainly protest against any abstraction of public money for the purposes of the bishops. It was a most shameless attempt ou their part, pos,sessed as they were already of such enormous incomes, to endea your to obtain it by means of this Bill. He would therefore move that the House go into Committee on the Bill this day week. Mr. M. PHILIPS thought that unnecessary haste had been used in pressing forward this Bill, and he most cordially seconded the motion of the Hoo. Member. There was a strong feeling against the measure in Man chester itself, and very active proceedings had late!) been taken by an association in that borough, formed for the purpose of obtaining a better and mere equable distribution of the property already possessed by the Church. He thought that the better course would be to withdraw the Bill. Lord J. RUSSELL said that, considering the grew. majority in favour of the second reading of the Bill. the Howe need not be surprised at his intention of not acceding to the proposition of the Hon. Member for Montrose to withdraw the Bill ; on the contrary, that he intended to proceed with the measure. He thought that the reel argument to use upon this question was, whether there were, or were not, a suffi cient number of bishops for the government of the Church. If there were not, as in the case, for instance, of the diocese of Chester, where the duties to per form were too heavy for one bishop, the; only proper course seemed to he to divide the diocese into two, and create an additional bishop, especially as it was proposed to pay the salary of the new bishop out of the funds derivel from a reduction of the revenues of the sees of Durham, Ely, and other bishoprics. Sir J. GRAHAM said that as the Hon. Member for Manchester had made a confession of his opinions to the House, he would trouble the House by informing them that he was a sincere member of the Church of England. With respect to the Bill, he thought that the great amount of the property of the Church formed the only fund upon which future reliance could be placed for the instruction of the people of this country in the principles of the Church et England, and be thought that it would be idle to sup pose that any future assistance for the purposes of the Church of England could be obtained from the taxes levied upon the people of England. The duty of this House and the Government was now to deal with the distribution of the Church property in such a manner as might be considered best adapted for the purpose oi improving the moral and religious condition o' the people of England. Ho certainly did think that if the Episcopal Fund were to be kept separate and distinct under the management of the Ec clesiastical Commissioners, it would be better to make a stand at once, and say that this House would not sanction the endowment of any future bishops. It ap peared that there were two funds kept !distinct by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. These were the "episcopal fund" and the "common fund." And an Act was passed in the year 1840, the effect of which was to fuse into one these two separate and dis tinct funds ; but in the year 1841 an Act was passed to amend the Act of 1840, thereby repealing the pro visions of the former Act ; and he could not deny hut that subsequent Acts had recogniaed that repeal of the provision for the fusion of the two funds. In the late Government the subject of this Bill was very frequently discussed, but it was finally decided by her Majesty's advisers that they would not recommend th adoption of the course proposed by the present Bill. DuringtheMelbourneAdministration arcport was printed by the Commissioners, recommending that no increase of the number of the bishops should be made. That report was signed by Lord Cottenham. the Marquis of Lansdowne, Lord Melbourne, and Lord John Russell. Now, it had been said that the duties assigned to th.- bishops were generally too heavy. This brought him to consider really what the duties of these bishops were. First, they had to perform the ordination services, which were confined to one of thtee early weeks in the year; then they had to make a triennial visitation and ordina tion ; and he was reminded of the service of the con secration of the churches, but with respect to the lett, r duties, he thought that he would be a fortunate bishop who had three or four of these duties to perform in th, half year. New, he really could not think that . these labours were too much for any one bishop, and he was borne out in that opinion by the fact, that in some of the sees the duties were ably performed by bishops above the age of eighty years. He thought that the osse of the diocese of Chester was a peculiar one, and he really thought that upon a vacancy occurring in the see of St. Asaph, the Bishop of Bangor might have undertaken the ditties of the two sees, and filling up the vacant see by the creation of a Bishop of Manchester. A majority of the. other House, and her Majesty's responsible advisers, had, however, thought it necessary to recommend the kerne- . diate creation of the see of Manchester. It appeared that with respect to the episcopal fund, there was a sur plus in hand already amounting to the sum required for the endowment of this new bishopric, and if he went into Committee on this Bill, he should make an arrangement at once for the utter obliteration of the distinctness of the two funds, and for causing the whole amount of the two funds to be appropriated for the entire wants of the Church ; and it was his intention, with that view, to move in Committee to expunge the second clause of the Bill, and he believed that in so doing he should be best carry ing out the recommendations of the report of the Ecclesiastical Commissioners. From the report of that Commission, it appeared that in the four dioceses of Lon don, Chester, York, aid Lichfield, there were 108 parishes and districts, containing a popu lation of 2,590,000 persons, with about accomino elation for only 276,000, and although since that report was printed in the year 1836. Considerable efforts had been made to remedy the evil; still, so far from mitigating, the evil had only increased with the increase of the population. He deprecated, therefore, any application of the funds of the episcopal or canon fund towards the erection of new bishoprics, instead of meeting the intensity of the evil. He had the strongest view of the impolicy of creating a new bishop unb-ss h e were to be invested with the whole honours atten d ant upon his o ffi ce. It would be causing a m ost invidious comparison to be made between the new bishop and the others, by keeping the one constantly h confined . t o the duties of his see, and having no cal l s upon t ime in consequence of his attendance at his Parliamentary duties. Then again this measure would deprive some of the older sees of the right which they had held for cen turies, to sit in the House of Lords whenever a vacancy occurred; but here exception was to be made in favour of tha sees of Durham and Winchester, but why should this exception be made? He really saw no principle in the measure.—(llear.) He would oppose anything like factious opposition to the Bill; he was prepared to go into Committee on this Bill, and he was prepared to move to strike out from the preamble of th e Bil l all those words which which gave or implied sanction to the erec tion cf any new bishoprics beside the first, end he wou ld also move to strike oat the second clause of the Bill. He believed that the first measure would be a fatal gift to the Church; it was not ornament which the building re quired, but buttresses to support the fabzio. Entertain- ing these opinions, he could not but feel it his duty tot most unconstitutional that such ancient bib rieri adopt the course which he had before stated it was his Carlisle or Narevich,should be deprived of , their' ar intention to take. privileges, in oreer that, these new bishopricti, as Ivo Mr. D. ACLAND thought that the House ought to by the Bill, shOuld have the privilege of & be obliged to the Right Hon. Baronet for the speech he their seats •, in Parliament by rotation. had made; it showed fully the reasons why the late Go- , Honourable -and Learned Gentleman then q . , vernment failed to keep itself in office, and why it had Solden in support of this view, and concluded lost the support of all good and honest. churchmen of the calling upon the House to support the Bill, not country. The Right Hon. Gentleman had stated an in- standing the objectionable points to which he has stance of the Bishop of Salisbury performing his own verted, and which he hoped would be asnencleul in I . duties, and that of the see of Bath and Wells, bat he mittee. (Mr. Acland) would take the liberty of denying that, Mr. B. OSBORNE thought that the flue:Won for and he did so upon the authority of the Bishop sideration was, how they should best dispos eof the - of Salisbury himself.—(Hear, hear.) The see (1 plus funds of the Ecclesiastical Commission. In Bath and Wells had suffered very much for . opinion this would be best done by increasing a time fro m th e want o f a bishop. Again, the Right parochial rather than the episcopal clergy. It app.% Hon. B aronet accuse d the laity of not having looked to him very strange that the Noble Lord (Lord ~ this questio n f a i r l y i n the face; but he (Mr. Arland) Russell) who, while-sin 'opposition, coquetted so e maintained that they had, and the conclusion they had with the Dissenters, should now appear so come to was that more bishops were wanted for.the due loon, to ingratiate himself into the good opii and proper management of the Church— bishopt, whose de' the m ' Ire :„of the Church. Be of f e detracted Lords, butf ro from theirho should duties b b o y a a l t w te a n y d s a e n o c g e a s;n o d thi o H t o h n o s i e r - ,.v iewed Lb o) , by attention should not for the greater portion of' the year lieved that se proceeding would not be favour if e constituents of the Noble Lore He hee hoped, therefore, hpelraecfeodre,uttihdaetr when thei andsg they marked their sense of his cm respective dioceses in the control and superintendence of y rejectine . li e v M -as th eir . representative at the • r charge.--(Hear; hear . election • - andequitersg him a martyr to his new c th ot into Committee ' it would the House would not adopt the pr o posals of the Right the t s hure b h e .L( ll4 :C' P h n ee ni r s .s hin ) , , ,, ent for his present flirtation Honourable Baronet, but pass this Governmenttirety. H e woul dthat h s e a 3 y , p a thus m o much - Mr. T. DLIN,.t. attention to the re- excite ri OMllts opposed the Bill. He c el the present- dared this neee e enr . e wale uncalled for, and itswould ter rest of the country, than did her Majepsatsys'esdlawtnheia,hvisers. to me a asu — r 7- 7, S eterit tn e g n3 Q , F l ho u s ri t d ility -- aga. presentatives of the Church, and the Disse t' • in d g . inte- The present e Goeernenent . had no right to bring mat promo if it was inter During the last ten years. much had of them deeply regretted, but be hoped the time wasmnany ti o hLua i l n nd er u e f a t :e r . ... reu th d e if.4 uferfulness of the Church, tar distant when the Dissenting body would beeem 'w t he numbrearthoetrlei' s i h ne o r p e:Le (u t. e h ts e r, p h a e r a o r e .) hial Th c e le H r o gy n. t • more united with the parent Church.—(Hear, hear.) e Sir W. MOLESWORTH regretted that the, Noble sewed ' fro ' AtiLIO N HY DP o Lord at the head of the Government had not consented upon the li m ouse several letters, which he had the working clergy—(Laughter)--ct . it the mast dii,ici r p o d rej, ct the Bill, and join him in gi to withdraw this Bill, because it was quite impossible in le sit e e d in a h t every stage. ... the few days of the session which remained to discuss Mr. the merits of the various and important qu, stions w hi c h that the opponen n ts t, o a f n ; d re th ( M e e s a in s ure were the beast !re this measure necessarily gave rise to.—(Hear.) But of the Government , sincere B lo i v i e l, rs an o d f 'e t °ll he s ir ll' i he protested that ihe Episcopal funds could be applied gion.—(Hear, hear.) to much better and more useful purpose s th an th e es t e - Mr. COLLErT was also opposed to the Bill.. blishment of new bishoprics ; and as for the statement of thought it very strange that such a Bill would be tre' the Hon. Gentleman who had just resumed his seat, that cated by a Liberal Government.—(Cries of '. Divide the laity were favourable to an increase in the bench of The House then divided, whin there appeared-- Bishops, he utterly denied it. Cornwall, it was said, was For the second reading to have a new bishop, but he knew of his own knowledge Against it that the people of that district were opposed to it. .. Majority... An Hoe. MEMBER—Southwark is to have one too. On cur re admission to the gallery we found Sis W. MOLESWORTH said, as the representative Mr. DUNCOMBE denouncing the result of the d. of Southwark, he must protest against it. No more sion,. as disgretetul to the House.—(Cries of "Or bishops were wanted ; and instead of establishing new order," and great uproar:) sees, they ought to be considering a measure for ens. The SPEAKER called the Hon. Gentleman to ot bling the existing bench of bishops to perform their for such langteigee as it was unparliamentary to imp functions in a more efficient manner than they did the deeision of the. House: it present. The bishops ought not, in his Mr. if ESCOTT said, that tee well as he could 1 opinion to have seats in the House of Lords. member, the language of the Hon. Gentleman was, I! because it distracted th e i r attent i on f rom t h e t h e v o t e come to was di sgracefu l to a wea k adni, Episcopal duties they had to perform, and he tration. hoped shertly to see the day when the Bench of Bishops Ma'. DUNCOMI3E repeated what he had said, : would be relieved of their duties as Legislators, and considered the vo e most disgraceful. The Hon. Mem• thereby enabled to devote more time and attention in for Lambeth had displayed great inconsistency, for promoting the welfare of their respective dioceses. 1836 hs had voted against a Bill which ware well kno Mr. M. MILNES supported the Bill, on the ground as the Bishops' Bill, that the duties imposed on the present bishops were Mr. AGLLONBY defended the course pursued by more than they could conveniently perform, while the Hon. Member for Lambeth. wants of the people had so much increased of late years, Lord.J. RUSSELL censured the conduct of the C that an augmentation of bishops had become absolutely position, which he charac-erised as quibbling, and hot necessary. the House would see it in its true nature. Mr. E. DENISON said this Bill embraced a very Mr. B. OSBOR‘E wished to ask the Speaker if ;- large and important question, but • nevertheless he language of the Noble Lnrd was Parliamentary ? had supported the second reading of the Bill at the late The SPEAKER said that he would have called I period of the session, under the impression that those Noble Lord to Order had he considered it necessary. who had more time arid opportunity for considering the (Loud cheers.): matter had duly considered what would be the effect of Mr. ESCO t'T defended the course pursued by 1 augmenting the Bench of Bishops, with a limitation as minority, end oOntended that the quibbling was all to seats in the House of Lords. The Right Hon.' Baro the other side. 's net the Member for Dorchester had made an admirable Mr. M. PHILLiPS said the best thing the Her speech upon this subject, and he regretted very much could do, was to undo the Bill of 1836, in reference dial the Right lion. Baronet while in office did not make the Bishopric of Manchester. Nothing could be mt an effort to settle this very important question. He did satisfactory to his constituents. not, however, agree in all that had fallen from Sir G. GREY said that if they went into Commie the Right Honourable Baronet ; and he f, It on the Bill, they might modify it there as the Riot: convinced that the Right Honourable Baronet thought proper. would change many of his opinions upon the appropria- The debate was then adjourned till to-morrow (C tion of the ecclesiastical fund, who n he became ac- day). quainted with the further progress of the inquiry which the other orders of the day having been disposed was going on upon that subject.—(Hear, hear.) the House adjourned at Half past Twelve o'clock. Lord SANDON did not think the duties of a bishop ' were so light as the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester supposed, for scarcely a day, nay, an hour passed, that a bishop was not engaged in dis pensing of the business of the diocese over which he pre sided. He (Lord Sandon) was eicquainted with one Right Rev. Prelate who had upwards of 50 letters to write every morning upon the affairs of his see, and he would ask any Member of that House whether he knew any statesman whose duties were heavier than that ? (Hear, hear, and laughter.) For himself he entertained no doubt that there ought to be an increase in the number of bishops, and if he wanted any proof of this, it could be found in the good effects which had resulted from establishment of colonial bishoprics.—(Hear, hear.) He was therefore glad that this measure had been intro duced, and he hailed it as the commencement of' a better state of things for the Church of England. She had long suffered from internal dissenting, but he hoped the day of her suffering was passed, and that hereafter they should be united in securing her welfare, and increasing her sphere of usefulness.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the Bill. He thought the efficiency of the bishops would be enlarged if they had had seats in the House. Lord CLIVE said that the very fact of the bishops agt eeing to this measure showed that they disregarded the pride of circumstances, and chose rather than have seats in the House of Lords, to confine themselves to the observance of the duties of their position in the country. He thanked the Noble Lord for his Bill, to which he would give his strenuous support. Mr. HORSMAN observed that all ho had intended by the remarks he had made on this subject was to throw out an alternative to those who said they must have a certain number of bishops, and to show them that they might have that number in a different and less objec tionable manner. He thought the difference between he bishops and the clergy was at present ton great, and should be lessened; but he had had the admission of the Government on two or three points, and would not despair of ultimately effecting a very salutary reform. He gave the Government credit for wishing to reform their system of church discipline, but for the reasons he had mentioned he hoped they would postpone •he measure, in order next year to bring forward a more comprehensive and a better one. PARLIAMENTARY DIVIiSIONS. (From the Votes and Proeeecl:ngs of the House of Common WEDNESDAY, JULY 14. • COLLIERIES BILL. Order for Second Reading read; Motion made, and Qac tion proposed, " That the Bill be now read a second time —Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," a' . at the end of the Question to add the words " upon tl , day three months :"—Question put, " That. the word' no stand part of the Question." The House divided MINORITY—AYES, 23. A rkwright, G. Fuller, A. E. Palmer. G. Illackhurne, J. I. Mall, Sir 13. Pechell, Captain 13ohlero, 11. G. Illndley Charles Perfect, R. Borthwlck, P. Herlihy, John Repton, G. W. .1. Bouvrrie, E. P. • Ilumphery, Ald. Yorke, Henry R. Cabbeil, B. B. Martin, J. Escott, Bickham Morris, David Evans, Sir De Lacy O'Connell, H..T. I errand, W. B. Parke, C. W. Tmms. Duncembe, Thomas Walacy, T. MAJORITY-NOES, 56. Aldam, William Ebrington, Viscount Mitchell, T. A. Arundel, Earl of Egerton, W. T. Monahan, J. H. itaine, Walter Forster, M. Morpeth, Viscount Barrington, Viscount Gibson; Thomas M. Mundy, E.M. Blackstone, W. S. Goring,r. Newdegate, C. N. Blakemore, R. Grey, Sir G. Ogle, S. C. Bowring, Dr. Hamilton, G. A. Palmer, R. Brotherton, Joseph Hawes, Benj. Fluntridge, Captain Brown, W. Henley, J. W. Prime, Richard Byng, G. S. Houldsworth, T. Reid, Colonel Carew, W. P. Jervis, Sir John Shell, R. L. Cowper, W. F. Jones, Captain 'Arun, Edward Cripps, W. Labouchere, llenry Thornely, T. Denison, W. J. Liddell, lion. H. T. Trclawny, J. S. Denison, E B. Lindsay, Colonel Vane, Lord 11. Dlvett, Edward Lygon, Gen. Vivian, J. H. Duncan, George Macaulay, T. Dundas, Gtr David Id`Taggart, Slr J. Du Pre, C. G. Mahon, Viscount East, Slr J. B. Miles, William TELLERS. Mil, Lord Marc= Parker, John PARLIAMENTARY ELECTORS BILL. Order for Second Reeding read; Motion made, and Qua tion proposed, " That the Bill be now read a second time: —Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," an at the end of the Question to add the words " upon this da three months:"—Question put, "That the word now' can part of the Questom." The House divided, Ayes 54; Noe. 54: whereupon Mr. Speaker declared himself with the Aye: GOULBURN said that the same arguments would constantly be urged for postponing the Bill, and that he should therefore give it his support at the present time.—(Hear, hear.) It had been stated in the course of this delytte, that they were precluded from creating the Bishop of Manchester by the first Ecclesiastical Commission, but the very names tached to the report showed that it was not intended that it should contemplate the binding up of this even ,ion for ever. Surely it the Commission contemplated the extension of the inferior clergy, it was also their .luty to provide a sufficiency of ecclesiastical superin• endance. The question was now, whether there should be a new Bishop of Manchester or not ? Tie did not consider that a Bishop of the Church of England was to be a mere ornamental appendage to that Church.— (A laugh from the llon Mernbnr for Montrose.) Did the Hon. Member for Montrose, who professed himself a Member of the Church of England, think that the Church - •• AYES. Agilonby, TI. A. . Ebrington, Viscount Osborne, Captain Aldam, William - Ellis, Wynn Parker, John Arundel, Earl of ' Escott, Bickhain Pechell, Captain Bouverie, E. P. . Gibson, T. M. Perfect, Robert Bowring, Dr. Gore, Robert Philips,Aart Brotherton, J. Gower, Le% eson Pinney, William Brown, W. Grosvenor, Earl Rich, Henry Buller, Charles Hawes, Benjamin Shell, It. L. Buller, Edward ' Hill, Lord 31. Somerville, Sir IT. liyng, G. S. • Hindley, C. Strait, Edward Clay, Sir W. Ilumphery, Ald. Thornely, T. Colebrooke, Sir T. Hutt, William Wakley, Thomas Collett, John Jervis, Sir John Ward, 11. G. Denison, W. J. N'Carthy, Alexander Williams, W. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Martin. John Yorke, IL It. Liven, Edward Mitchell, A. T. Duncan, ueorge . . Monahan, J. IL Duncombe, T. 'Morris, David Dundas, Sir David ' Ogle, S. C. TELLERS. Evans, Slr De Lacy Hall, Slr Benjamin ROES. Archdall, Captain East, Sir J. B. Mahon, Viscount Austen, Colonel Egerton, W. T. Manners, Lord J. Barrington, Viscount Farnham, E. Miles, William Bateson, Thomas Fuller, A. E. Mundy, E. Miller Beckett, W. Gardner, J. D. lieeld, Joseph Blackstone, W. S. Ga.skell, J. M. Neville, Ralph Blakemore, R. ' Goring, Charles Palmer,'Robert Bolder°, 11. G. Hamilton, J. H. Palmer, G. iturthwick, Peter Hamilton, G. A. Patten, J. W. Botlield, Beriah Hamilton, Lord C. Prime, Richard Bowles. Admiral Henley, J. W. Reid, Colonel Broadley, Henry Hotham, Lord Repton, G. W. Carew, \V. H. role ilouldsworth, T. Round, John Clive, R. H. Jerinyn, Earl Trotter, John Codrington, Sir W. Jones, Captain Villiers, Viscount Denison, E. B. Lefroy, A. Waddington, B. 8. Douglas, Sir C. B. Lindsay, Colonel T W i l li am zu.sx.s. , Duckworth, Sir J. Lygon, General cripps Du Pre, C. G. 'Mackinnon, W. A. Newdegatc, C. N. ught to do without bishops ? He knew the fervent at tachment of the Right Hon. Baronet behind him (Sir J. Graham) to the Church of which he was a member, hut he thought that that Right lion. Gentlemen had not stated correctly what were the duties of the bishops. He considered that their duties were far more extended than those ascribed to them by the Right Hon. Gentleman. tie might feel thus having lived under two ecclesiastical superintendencies, which added to the duties instanced oy the night Hon. Gentleman, others of a far n , arer and still higher character.—(Elear, hear.) He would not only vote for the creation of the new bishopric of Man chester, but also for that part of the preamble hich recognised the necessity for a further creation of three more bishops—(" Hear, hear," from the Radical benches)—and in taking that course be knew that be heuld merit the thanks of the Churchmen of this country. Ms. B. ESCOTT said that this was perhaps one of the most important Bills that had been introduced into the House in the whole of this session, and it was therefore necessary that they should give the greater deliberation to it. He had listened to he speech of the Honourable Member for the Uni versity of Cambridge with great attention, but he did not hear him allege a reason why he had supported the union of the sees of Bangor and St. Asaph, when in office in one year, and in the following year, when out ot office, advocate the creation of five new bishoprics. Throwing the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman, then, out of the question, es it well deserved, let themse e how the question really stood. The objects of th e Ec clesiastical Commissioners were to benefit t he p oorer clergy, and the opinion of the working c lergy. If they it 'taken now, would be thatno new bishopric s werofWhere were wanted. thought so, where were petitions their_oe had petitioned for !he petitions of the laity ? o a this augmentation to the Bench , o f Bishops, but the Go vernment bad seen fit to do this unasked, and the Ho use of Commons were asked to sanction it. But he believed that the opposition now given would defeat t he measure, and he believed also that her Majesty's Mi n isters would be most grateful that they haddone so. H e di d not thi , k that the atte m p t to ag g ran dise that portion of the Church which was the moat open to objection, would in env degree tend to make the Church itself popular with the country. Mr. C. WYNN supported the Bill. He thought the a seat in Parliament for the 'clonal bishop (ors ' L ion of dcl . • a very secondary consideration, and he thought that this question might well be considered on a future occasion. The Hon. Gentleman opposite ask ed where were the pe titioners in favour of this Bill. .—We can now Escott.) Now, when a member —( of the Ecclesiastical ar, hear, from Mr. PROROGATIO N t OF PARLIAMENT v b a t Parliament will be prorogued by Commission in 1844, he had _ taken some pains to aseer - her - p e e t io non Thursday, the 22d inst. min this, and he had found that the great majority of sta T te t le s aTe E fisat a nt. TßlO.TELEG ßAPll.— One day last week the clergy and laity were opposed to the union of the a lady took a first-Crass ticket, at the Exeter station of sees of St. Asaph and Bangor. the Sou:h Devon Retie ay, for Stareross, and on arriving Sir H. R. INGLIS supported tlfe Bill, and felt greatly at her journey's &A she found, to her great chagrin, astonished that Sir James Graham should oose it, as that she had som ew h ere or other mislaid it. Af te r it was nea r ly id ent i cal with the measure whi ch he him- searching the carriage in vain, she made up her mind to self brought forward about seven years ago. For his pa y h er fare again, and went towards the office for the own„part he cordially approved of the measure, but he purpose ; meeting the station -master by the may, she reserved to himself the right of moving that the clause mentioned her loss to him, and found, to her:great our• limiting the prerogative of the Crown to summon the prise, that he was already informed of it. "He knew it new Bishops to th e H ouse o f L o rds should be expunged half an hour ago s h e b a d l eft it on the counter at the Exeter stotion.":'The lady was delighted ; she saved in Committee. filet , t,he great her money, and *As initiated into one of the mysteries of Mr. S. WORTLEY was of opipien increase of the temporal peerage . since the 1-4 ' l :7"_' 4 4'en science at the sacab liresiern Luminary. would. have justified an increase in the number ( hs The HavarirrCCorernment has decided that for in the Henze of Lords. lie would have proposed _ t ha t tke future no L. will be ptru.itie:l to reside in the words in the preamble giving a quasi pl edge for butthe Rhenish Bavaria unless able to show that he has means creation of the additional bishops had b _ out, of living, or has obtained a guarantee to that effect from as these words happened to be inserted, be did not wish person residing in the palatinate. to D im that they &old be earned. He thought it Main Question put, "That the Bill be now read a second time." The House divided : MINORITY —AYES, 52. Agllonby, IL Zbrington, Lord Parker, John Aldan, W. xilis, Wynn Pechell, Captain Arundel, Earl of E.cott, Itickhana Perfect, Robert Borthwick, eeter Gibson, T. M. Philips, Mark Bouverie, E. P. Gore, Robert Pinney, W. tower, Levason Rich, Henry flowring, Dr. Brown, .7. . Grosvenor, Lord R. Shell, R. L. Brown, W. Hawes. B. Somerville, Sir W . Brown, Charles . .i , ,.filii, bard Marcus Strutt, Edward Buller, Edward 'l l l ll dleY. Charles Thornely, Thomas Clay, Sir W. ifinnpliery, Aid, hionalun, .J. 11 . . Colebrooke, Sir T. Hutt, William WakleY, Thomas Collett, John Jervis, Sir John Ward, 11. G, enison, W. J. M'Carthy, Ai ex Wilharas, W. D'Eyncourt, T. Martin; J, • Evans,, Sir D Lacy Yorke, R. H. Divett, E. Duncan, George Mitchell , 'p, I TEuxas. Dune mbe, T. Dundas, Sir D. Ogle, S. G. lien. bir B. Osborne, Ralph MAJORITY-NOES, 53. Archdall, Captain Egerton, W. T. Mahon, Lord Austen, Colonel Farnham, E. B. Dimmers, Lord J. Barrington, Lord Fuller, A. E. Milos, William Bateson, Thomas Gardner. J. D. Mundy, E. M. Beckett, William Gaskell, J. M. Neeld, Johns Blackstone, W. Goring, Charles Neville, R. Blakemore, lt. Greene, Thomas Palmer, R. Bolder°. Henry • Hamilton, J. H. Palmer, G. kottleld, Beriak Hamilton, G. A. Patten, J. W. Bowles, Admiral . H am ilt on , L or d C. P r i me . Richard Broadley, H. . Henley, J. W. Reid. Colonel Carew, w. P. .. Hothani, Lord Renton, G. W. J. Clive, R. H. • ; liouldsworth, T. , R ound. J.j Jo hn Codrlngton. Sir W: Jermyn, Earl T ro tter, o wedctincton. IL S. Denison, E. B. Jones, Captain Douglas, Sir C. Kelly, Sir Fitzroy TELLERS. Duckworth, Sir J. ewdegkite, N. cklanonZ Du Pre, C. G. Limit:ay. Colone l MaW. East, Sir J. ______—..........--, rripps, Williatn Lefroy, Anthon N 01- ~. "' E SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY MORNING, JULY 16, 1847.