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tn — lreland, .and whieft . ii Was the objet of this Bill to defeat ; as appeared by the Preamble, was more extensive than, without strong evidence, Could have been believed. The Conspiracy had its Agents thrbugh every corner of Ireland, and it was organized in an extraordinary manner—The obje& of that Conspiracy was toseparate Ireland from England, and to form a conneEtion between Ireland and Franre. He felt the evils of attempts to carry such an objed intei effea, in the unhappy disposition of those who wished it, and in their anions. He felt that such a Conspiracy did now exist to a vast extent in Ireland, though it was not at present in its full force ; and he need only mention, that when so many other Gentlemen had' stated the necessity of this Bill, 66 God forbid," said lie, " that I :should wish for any harsh measures against the People of Ireland ; they are contrary to my nature, but the controversy is between us and the Jacobins of Ireland, and we must rule them or they will first rule and then de. stroy • • Mr. IVESTENRA ohserVed, that this was a measure of neeessitY, arising from the siate of Ire land ; and Gentlemen were not to look into old books upon the subjcl, but into fads as they were now exhibited to view. The part of Ireland from which he came, being the Northern, was tran quil, but he understood the South to be other , wise ; .and from the•state of Ireland in that quar, ter, he was convinced, from: very important and serious inforrnation, that this measurewas abso lutely necessary, and as such he should give it his hearty support. He hoped to see the day, when all the People of Ireland would look back with horror, at the whole conduCf and principleS of thoSe who had been the cause of the calamity that Country had - suffered. Sir F. BURDETT said, he had not delivered his opinion at a more early stage of this business, because he wished to colled every possible infor mation from those Gentle Men who represented that part of, the. United Kingdoni,ealled Ireland. He was mita inclined to . pay every deference to those Gentlemen, but their opinions were so con-. tradidory, .that he could draw no conclusion from them, One thing, howeVer, appeared clear ;it was not a partial,. but a general discontent which, from the statements which had been made by all the Gentlemen from that, Country, appeared to exist. io Ireland. This general. discontent could not arise without some general cause, and that cause, in his opinioh, was the oppression Which was exercised upon .the People of that Country. A great variety of opinions had been stated about the nature of the disturbances in Ireland, Some Gentlemen said it was a Jacobin Rebellion—others that it was a Popish one.— Some Gentlemen said that they were for the mea sure, because the Jurors chewed such an avidity for blood that Courts:Martial were the milder `Tribunal ; other's supported it because the Jurors and Witnesses were afraid to do their duty.— From all these contradidory statements, he was enable to draw any rational conclusion, It had been said, that this Bill ought to be continued, because it had put down the Rebellion : NOW if that were a good . .argument, this Bill never eould cease, however tranquil the Country might be. J-fe begged leave to recall to the recolle4,tion of the [louse a Motion of an Hon. Gentleman, whose attendance had not beem so regular of - late in that House as it used to be—One of the last proposals which that great and extraordinary man made before he discontinued his regular at tendance in that House was, topropose:a Resolu tion that it was illegal to use torture to extract evidence; but this Motion wa s negatived, by a large majority. lie 'recolleded upon that occasion that theCHANCE L Log of theExctt EQUE R had defended the praaice of using severity, in order to extraa Evidence ; and the Noble Lord :it the head of the Court of Chancery _in Ireland, had, in a pub lication, to' which his name was prefixed, given his sanlioa to . that practice. He hoped, he might, in so liberal an Assembly, speak of the Great Man who had restored France to tranquil lity by the justice and mercy of his measures; and he firmly believed, that it was only by mea sores of justice arid mercy, that tranquillity could be restored to Ireland, Mr. PITT did not rise to trouble the House upon the Question, as be considered it as un necessary to add any thing to the convine_ kg arguments which had been urged in fa vour of this myasure ; but he only wished to make an observation upon the impropriety of one Gentleman attributing sentiments to another at a tonsideable distance of time after they were supposed to be uttered, merely upon , his own. re colietioo. The Hon, Baronet had attributed to hum opinions which he was supposed to have advanced on a fdriner occasion, and had stated the Debate upon which he conceived it to kave taken place . With respect to the opinions be entertained, he should say, they were. ex :ldly the same as those that had been so ably ex_ pressed by his Noble Friend. But as to the sen timents which the lion. Baronet had stated him to have advanced, he could only say, that he could not have uttered them, because he was not present at that Debate, and had been prevented from attending the House for some weeks by in disposition. „ . • Sir F. BURDETT said, he should feel' great reludancein attributing such sentiments to any person, .and he was happy to hear the Rt. Hon. Gentleman disavow them. ..Mr. PITT begged not to be misunderstood : he had not said one word whether those were his bentiments or not ; he had merely observed, that the Hon. Baronet had imputed to hiM language which he could not have used, because he was not in the House on that occasion. -The SPEAKER said, he was sorry lle had in terrupted the Hon, Baronet, but be hope - d the }louse would now see the imropriety of referring td any thing Which was supposed to , Ilan passed in-former Debates, Mr. SHERIDAN oWerved,, that the Debate e , • •••• • • - :1 • ett: R .. '`"Ar i N4 Y ~ NE:rvs. • I, '1 et iM Magi, reevunrque trilentemt i ' Sri frtibi torte dattitc, YARMOUTH, MAICH THE Prin:t of frales • Packet early on Friday morning spoke, Admiral Sir HYDE PAnKER, Yar. mouth then bearing W. S. W. distant about as leagues. The Fleet were steering about N. E. and some of the heavy sailing Ships were toweci by others. Arrived the Favourite Slat, •La jalouie and Trimmer Brig Cutters, Meteor, Wrangler, Ready, Safeguard, and Pincher Gun-brigs, and. Alimeng Frigate. Arrived also, L'Opirnirte French Privateer,' • from Dunkirk, sent in by His Majesty%Ship Favourite, JOHN \VESTS B AC H j •ESq. commander, - She had captured two vessels. •• Sailed the Invincible, of 74. guns, ` Admiral Torry, to join the Tleet,; Drake Cutler, Sole. lay Frigate, Elephant and Bruiser Gun-brigs. FALMOUTH, MARCH 14. ARRIVED the Prince Adolphus Packet, Capt. JOIcES, with a Mail from Lisbon, after Fevendays passage.---She brings ,the account of War having been declared on the 22d February last, by the Spaniards against the Portuguese ; and by the latter Power against the Spaniards on the sth inst, Passengers by the Prince ,Adolphu:t, are Capt. Norville , ofthe 9th Mr. and Mrs. Burke • Reginient - Of Fdot ' Mr. Hetior Henderson 1 Mr. James Uhreh, fortup : Mr, William Hill guese Messenger Mr'. Joseph Rea • M. and Mrs. Rogers Mr. Edw. Skerman • Mr. Campbell attskSan 'HaaiAhdallaSermani. Sailed, with a ple . Vicezg to the Northward, the King Gegrge Packet, Capt. YEscom 13 E l . for 'Lisbon, having on hoard Dispatches, .and the Mail of the toth inst, The DiSpatehes arrived here on the' loth inst. since when 41; has been detained by contrary wind. . The Princess Elizabeth Packet, for Ja ma i ca , awl Lad . ) , Hobart, , for America, are . , expeftlA tg North. sail early tomorrow morning.L-Winu BR/Xll/1414 MiI.RCH IS. _ • ••• SAILED this morning the Channel Fleet s mule* Command.of Admiral Cor, WAL Also the optward,bound MeOiterrftnean Flepat i l under convoy of the St. ..';oren;,'c. ' 1 • „ - POR TWO UTH . . , .1‘ 1 4.1k c a I¢. ' \ P. ~ ' ' A.RRIrED this evening, His Maj est y' s hi re d' Brig Lady, .Parlctie . , a;l4c.uttcr S be erness , f rom ' a Cruize, with a large Danish a s t Z n di aman ;from China. • • 1 -,..........., 1 $.l - IE.ERNES'.S% . MA RCH . Is. i --- ARRIVED His Majesty's Sloop Albion, i ;on of 2 2 guns, Capt. J. HILLs, from Yarmouth ; a l 4O the Providence hired Cutter, Lieut. Cownw. Sailgcl His Majesty's Ship Jamaica, of 24 guns, capc. ROSE. DOVER, MARCH i 6. SAILED for Calais the Maria, of Bremen, Capt.:CONRAIDY, with Prisoners of War, Mer chandize, and Dispatches. Arrived the 'Ary , n, of Fleiisburgh, Capt. CLO, MVS PETERSON KRUSE, with %vine, from Tar_ ragonia for Altona, sent in by the Stu. Tender, Capt. SCLArER. • • COALS.---A State of last Week's Market : Cargoes Sold. Monday', March g, 67 from 325. od.: to 375. Wednesclair, 4 from 325. 9d, to , 375. 9d. Friday, - 13, from 375. 3d, to 4os: ad. ENCLIS,II STATE LOTPERY: TIIgtTEINTII pay. The following Prizes were Drawn No. 2,0 rs, a Prize of One Hundred Pottrids. 54,644, a Prize of rifty Pounds. 19,75, a Pi;f.' at Filly Pounds. DIED. .. . On Saturday last, in Spring-Garden, henry Franck, c)unges t.sculpf Shaw .I„efevrc, Esq. Al. P. t pkicE o VI,ST Bank Stock shut Navy per Cent. 911 sper ( w ent. , 1797, shut bun s pct . Cent. skit 4 per Cot. CO. shut 3 per Cent. Red. shut pc,r Cent. Con. 56i 6 Ditto Scrip Bank Long Ann. shut •- Ditto . SliOrt Ann. p hut , ; Ditto Scrip F SOCA.~, EADAIe. India Stock shuti • " Ditto .I.loods s.- dis. ' • Exclie9uer Bills s. Nov ditto : ' Lottery Tickets Omnium zA prem. Inver. 3 per CF.nt. Ditto Ann. 10 is-16-ti Bank for Accoitot :IndiO for dittO - Cone. for Apr.,s6M •_ ~ ~t I.ONLMN : Prqueri by IiI:HA NAN M`MI CLAN. (of Bow-Street. Covent.Carden);, and Vuhrished by WI /411 XVI ARMlaza.Scaurs ( o f Norse-terry.wad, Vie%tininster); • At the 1,11.1:101 . )/ a No. 112' Stra w / • where, Ad•virptements,, fo4 t„he Letter, ,thc ,g44or, must be ikdkviacti., • ~,' ~~ the Hon. Baronet had referred to was not only in a former Session, but in a former, Parliament. Mr. PITT said, that the Hon. Baronet's refe rence was not only to a former Session and a for mer rarliam e nt, but watt also a reference to what. had happened. •. - . , Lord DE BLAQUiERE r ose to -give his most decided support to this measure, which he considered as essential to the security of Ircland,r and, in his opinion, it would have been fortunate for Ireland, ifsecourse had been had to it at an , earlier period. He would not have troubled the House, but that some observations had fallen from some Gentlemen, which he' could not suffer to pass unnoticed., An Hon. Baronet had proposed, that 'there should be but one Law for the two Countries. •Now, before the same Law could be applicable to both Countries, it would be necessary either to create a Rebellion in England, or to put • down that which existed in Ireland.--Other Gentlemen had declared, that there were no Courts-Martial sitting in Ireland, and, Jurors and Witnesses could discharge their.duty without danger ; but he could by no means assent to,these assertions, for he could state, not one but fifty,, instances of persons being murdered. for having faithfully performed their duty as Jurors or Wit nesses ; and as to Courts Martial, they had always continued to sit.—lt should belecollaled, that . persons' could ,only be tried by the Courts of, Law, twice a-year, as there were only two Cir cuits.; but the safe i ty of Ireland required that , : offenders of the nature .tliat Ireland was infested with, should. be speedily brought to Justice.— With respdt to the tranquillity which was sup posed to exist in lyeland, he could, only say, that in July last they burnt his house to the .ground ; he supposed they. intended it as a compliment to him, for it was upon his birth-day. His Lord ship then proceeded to state other instances ,of disturbances and insurree.tion.—Though upon a: 1 question of this kind he was of opinion that great deference ought to be paid to the, opinions of Gentlemen coming from Ireland, yet be was far from wishing that Ireland . shOuld legislate for herself ; for one of the greatest advantages that Ireland, in _his opinion, would derive from the Union, would be her having the benefit of Eng lish Legislature. His Lordship concluded with saying that some Gentlemen of this Country still persisted in stating Ireland to be in a tranquil state ; now if a few of those Gentlemen would promise to go over to Ireland and reside in any part he should mention, he would vote with them against the Bill. Mr. JONES opposed the Bill, and lamented the adoption of that system of Politics whiCh had brought Ireland, and England too, to death's door. The Gallery was then cleared for a division ; when strangers were re-admitted into the Gallery, we learnt, that the House had not divided, but that the Bill had been read a second time, and stood committed for tomorrow, IRISH MASTER OF THE ROLLS BILL. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR was opposing the Bill ; hut in case the Bill passed, he hoped it would be provided that the Master of the Rolls should not be called from that Country, and that he should be rendered ineligible to sit in the United Tarliament. He also objefted to t ie Cla grantuse ing,compensation to thp twb.Noblemen who 11.1 d. held that'OtEce, during the pleasure of the. Crown. Lord CASTLEPEACiIi tt,tfended .the compen sation. He .said, it was founded, upon similar precedents in thelrish Parliament ; the last Par_, liament had made a provision of :that sort in fa your of the Irish Judges, and had stipulated in this, very instance in favour. of the persons hold ing this Office, in case it should be.put upon ano ther footing. He denied that in this Regulation there was any job, or that it was for the sake of obtaining Patronage. The compensation, pro posed was the result of a principle adopted and acted upon by the last Irish Parliament, that all Offices which in their nature or emoluments would be ;laded by the. Union, should have the full, amount allowed for the lives of the actual posses. sors. Mr.SHERIDAN-contendecl,-, that. the corn_ pensition proposed to the two commissioners of the .Rolla in Ireland. tended, at_ least A - .to:influence their votes in favour of the Union, inasmuch as places which hud been held during pleasure 'were. converted into sinecures anctannuities to be held during life. It had been stated, ,that it.was nsual to grant compensations in cases 'of suporan.. 'nuation, and after long,and able services.. .This he approved of—buq in the present instance, he found ,one of the persons holding this office was His,Majestyls . Ambassador- at Berlin, who was now to be converted into one of the superati.: nuated Masters ofthe Rolls for-Ireland. Melia w . no good reason why the Chancellor. - of Ireland should be aTeer of Great .Biitain, or why he should leave his immediate duty in Ireland to • come and attend the House. of Peers in this Conn try. The Commissioners of Compensations, too, he understood were to have a salary • of , year. He supposed their office would not always continue, but probably, according to the principle assumed, when their office expired,. they would have to claim their compensations also,,and, ac. . cording to the Noble Lord ' s idea, they woulit,be the mo i re entitled to it in proportion as they had little or nothing to do. PIPT said, the principle of granting full compensations to those holding offices in Ireland at the time of the Union, had been adopted . by The last Irish Parliament, and it was therefore., impossible that • this Parliament could trench upon this testamentary disposition of the Irish. Parliament, without a dire et violation of faith, and of the principle on which . the. Union was founded.,, He thought it .would be very impolitic to oblige the Lord Chancellor of Ireland to con fine himself to that Country, as it was proper that the United Parliament should have the benefit, of his presence : particularly as there would , be a variety of Cases of Appeal from Ireland , and-01, 4aw transa&ions, which . would require his pt:: tendanee in this Country. The two Commission ers. who would be dispossessed of their office in WE can state from undoubted authority, that the HEREDITARY PRINCE Of ORANGE has been ,declared First Consul of the Batarvian .Republic. THE Prince of Ifiabs Packet spoke Sir HYDE : PARICER'S Fleet on Friday morning last, z; leagues E. N. E. of Yarmouth. • They were steering N. E. direct for the Baltic, and the heaviest sailing Ships were towed by others. The Channel Fleet, under W At,L is, sailed from Torbay on St day -Morn. TH E Prince Adolphus Packet arrived 'at Fal_. mouth on Saturday last, after a passage ofseven. days from Lisbon. She brings 'intelligent of War having been declared by Spain .against F'or= rugal on the 22d .February, and by the Utter against the former on the sth ' One Hamburgh Mail remained due when this Paper was put to Press. Mr. ADDINGTON 'does .110 t, we understand, mean to he a Candidate to represent the Univer sity of Oxford. A tiew Writ was last night moved by his Brother for Devizes, for Which place he will, no doubt, be re-eleded. New Wilts, it will be seen from our Parliamentary Report, were also moved for a Member for each of the Boroughs, Corjr Castle and Weobly, in the room of Mr. BOND and Lord G. THY NNE, ap pointed Lord4CoMmissioners of Ate -Trnsury. We have the satisfaaion 'to learn, that Wheat fell yesterday from ip to is's; per quarter at the Coro Exchange. ." Letters and Papers from New-York were re ceived in Town. yesterday, 4y which we learn that the Treaty. with France was ratified on the .3d of February in the American Senate, with a limitation of eight years for the continuance of thee, Treaty, and ,the exception of the zd:Article, There wad only one vote more than the two-thirds requisite for the ratification: The Elcaion of President is flea yet decided between BURR and JEFFERSON.• " " Letters from Washington statei that the Presi dent had !nominated Mr..DEXTER to undertake the _duties of Commissioner, 'tb ftegotiate with France, on the subject of_ the. Ccinyention with that Nation, lately ratified with an exception;--• Mr. DEXTER begged leave.toclecline the honour of that appointment. " Orders have ,been received at Leith to stop the Elbe .Convoy, which was to have sailed from Leith on Sunday. • The Pos t - 4 boy, with the. Ma it.from Sevenoaks, was yesterday stopped and robbed, within two miles and a half Of 6 FarnhorOugh,..ol the fallowing bags for London—Hastingsi , Rye ; 'Battle, Lain. berhurst„ Tenterden, biddenden, - Ctanbrook, Tunbridge • and Sevenoaks.- : • On Suiday last the Guard to -the Chester Mail attempting to get ,the coach through a branch 'of the Tame River at Hoppas, the other side Tam worth (the depth! of which being much increased by. the , late :rains), got on one of the: leaders, §wimming:turued round, by which oac ident;:ha, was carriedQf by the.streain and. unfor- Innately. drowned.. • CORN. EXCHANGE, MONDAY, MAltOit t 6. We hatl.no great supply of any Grain this morning; yet: the Wheat trade was . extremcly heavy, and full WS. Pa quarter lower, owilt6 to the large ar r ival s otAmericin Flour. Barley and Malt wete ,cheaper, and :dull of sale ; but fine Pease qt bath sort i s.sold ; apd good fresh Oat; maintained -Friday's pqe4 . th& lo4ver that; last MOh• day ; a nd Beahb are decisral em vin'valuc, being plentiful. .consequence of the new footing' is which-1111th : office was now placed, were as. much entitled to 'compensation as any other Irish. Officers who .would be affe&ed by that measute. There had been a specific Mt to this effeCt , passed in the Parliament of Ireland (the last Clause of which, at Mr. Purr's instance, was read -.by • the Clerk, and particularly specified this office of , Master of ,the Rolls). Mr, GREY said, he saw no necessity for the .attendance, : of the Irish Chancellor in the„Parlia. ment of this Country. But 'if he preferred his being here to an attendance upon his duty in Ireland, he thought it but fair that there should be a dedulion from his Salary towards the-pay ment of that of the efficient Master of the Rolls, 4s he had been informed the Irish Chancellor re tained the Salary affixed to the office of Chancel lor, with the addition of 4.0001. a year in lieu of the office of Speaker of the House of Lords in Ireland, abolished by the Union. He in.. sisted that there were several instances of per sons holding respectable and high situations in the, Law in Ireland, on political grounds, who had beers deprived of them without any compen sation being allowed them, as in the case of the Prime Serjeant ; and he wished to know whether, if the .two Noble Persons who had held the Office of Commissioners of the Rolls in Iceland had voted against the. Union, they would not have beeodismissed ~.without any compensation ; and 'also,- whether supposing other persons had been appointed their Successors within a twelvemonth Nst,, they would have been entitled to such com. pensation ? Upon the whole, he considered this measure as an unqualified job. Lord : De BLAQUIERE defended the measure. He denied that it was . a job„ or founded in pa tronage,. for the two persons who had held that Office during pleasure, were now made inde pendent of the ,Crown. Mr, ALEXANDER also spoke in favour of the Bill, The House divided, Ayes 53, Noes, 29—Ma.. jority 24. _ _ _ . At Ten o'Clock the House adjourned till To. morrow. THE 'S U N. QUIS DICEAE FALSUM AUDLAT ? L'O NLLON, Al AR C 17, 18c;1,