The Sun. — London, England, 1853-07-08 00:00:00

BEWARE OF DANGER AND DEBT. From the (Russian Gazette at) Times. By way of set-off against the novelty, the excitement, the enterprise. the popularity, and the possible glory of a war with Russia, let us just sit down and count the cost. We would s h u t u p th e nava l p ower o f R ussia in the Black Sea and the Baltic by costly fleets at both stations—steam always up, wind and water having their way. We could easily enable Turkey to make a despe rate fight by enormous subsidies. We could protect our commerce from Yankee privateers and other free and easy gentlemen who would take out letters of marque from Russia, by a recurrence to the old system • of merchantmen sailing like two wild geese in flights, with a frigate or two leading the way. We could suspend the whole foreign commerce of Russia, by a process which would double the price of our corn, hemp, and tallow. We could engage half the Conti nent on our side of the quarrel, by surrendering every other question of honour, duty, or interest we happen to have with each separate State. We could prolong the war indefinitely by another national debt. We could stop it at our pleasure by allowing Russia to take all she wants, with a little ov e r for d e murrage. With propor tionate bribes we could secure the concurrence of other nations. On the other hand, all the nations of Europe would be bankrupt, their principal creditors being in this metropolis. Their manufactUres and commerce would be ruined, to the injury of those who consume what they make and make for them in return. We are all so bound together that it is hard to say whether in mate rial consequences we should suffer more by v i c t ory or by defeat. It is our unhappiness to have the largest stake in peace of all nations on the face of the earth ; and so long as we stick to that game we are sure to wlin. The most orthodox war ever fought is only an Irishman's row, a game of cracked skulls and bloody nosey ; very amusing to those whose clothing is of little value, and whose natural integument is rather hard, but far from amusing to a gentleman who has paid five guineas for his coat and whose face is susceptible of contusions. There is not a point in which that immense glass house which we call the British empire is not liable to damage. "A man that bath children," says Bacon, " bath given pledges to fortune." We have children • we have colo nies ; we have dependencies ; we have ships • we have investments, loans, railways, private debts, all over the world. By dint of hard peace-making we manage to keep our creditors in tolerable order. They pay, as an omnibus horse does its work, by the momentum of its rsery, by b e i ng kept in harness, well up, and con tm inually flo gge d . Once give them the opportunity of war and that general dissolution of morals that is sure to ensue, and every quarter day will add to your defaulters. All this, of course, is very extraneous to the real merits of the present question. Those merits we do not here discuss. But we have known people who in private life went to law, or, rather, resisted actions, when the right was most clearly on their side, and when the verdict was given accordingly ; but who, nevertheless, lost thereby both in purse and in fame, having to suffer much annoyance, to pay large costs, and to incur also the reputation of being litigious and troublesome fellows. That which happens in the regular and genial atmosphere of English society, and ender the pure and impeccable administration of Eng lish justice, may easily happen in the society and forum and ar ena o f nations--viz., that the prosecution of the Justest quarrel may entail a martyr's obloquy and cross. This is no reply to the rights of the question, nor is it a reply to any sober investigation or calculation what ever. Then, what and whom do we address ourselves to ? To those who take a cheerful, a humorous, or an enthusiastic view of this very grave question ; who seem to think that the work may be done simply by England and France putting themselves into a hostile attitude by the side of the hapless and helpless Mussul man. Certainly we have the money and the ships, the sea, and a great deal more on our side ; but all the money, all the ships, and all the sea in the world, can not prevent Russia from doing what she is now doing —taking military occupation of the Danubian pro vinces. If we proceed to hostilities now, it must be to stop this process, and we might as well attempt to stop the north wind in its passage from Russia to the Mediterranean. It is a confessed fact that those remote and semi-barbarous provinces are at the mercy of Russia, and their occupation is as much at her will as the issue of an edict or the assumption of a title. When this absolute Power can pretend a colourable right by treaty, though only a colour, and when it appears to be assumed that the military occupation of these provinces is only the preliminary of a negotiation, we may see that our immediate interference would only give a questionable argument an inevitable triumph, though the argument were only in words and the triumph in deeds. When Russia has taken this offensive and costlystep then begins the tussle both of words and of deeds, when Turkey will be able to interpret treaties at the Balkan, and we at the Hel lespont. Long ere that, if we mistake not—long before actual collision—matters will be arranged between these . two unequal n e i g hb ours , if no t on t h e f oo ti ng o f equality, at least without an utter wreck of credit and power to the weaker party. Russia would consult her interests as little as her honour by pressing onwards in the face of a people as military and as fanatic as herself, and in the face of the publi c o pi n i on o f E uro p e . R ussia can not, indeed, be "crumpled up" by an angry threat or an idle brag ; but, on the other hand, she can do but little beyond her own soil, except in co-operation with other Powers. We are not unaware that some other rather audacious speculations have been permitted to attach themselves to this sufficiently disagreeable subject. Should things com e to that pass that England and France, having backed up Turkey so far, were bound to prove their h onour by arms • in a word, should there be a general war between Russia'and we know not what powers on one side, and England, France, Turkey, and we know not what powers on the other side, then, it is confidently anticipated that Poland and Hungary, true to their na ture and traditions, would throw themselves into the 711616 e, and England would find herself in alliance offen -Bive and defensive with the Turk, Louis Napoleon, and —must we add ?—Louis Kossuth, against our old allies, the Absoluti s t P owers . All t hi s i s i n t e lli g ibl e , and by no means improbable, if we once rushed into war With that love for the sport which seems to animate some bosoms. The whole sequence of events is as plain, even Plainer, than one is likely to read in the perplexed and sophisticated page of history. We should have to pay enormous and repeated subsidies to the Turk, the Mag yar, and the Pole. A British war steamer—the Styx, the Cerberus, or the Pluto—would take the Hungarian Governor, fresh from a visit to Windsor Castle, to some Port or other, if there is one, within a thousand miles of his country. Whether a party of marines would escort him into the interior, or whether the Magyar Chief would make the attempt with that force, we will not venture to anticipate. Doubtless, with such materials to work upon, and with the British Treasury and Mr. Gladstone's financial Hobgoblin to assist, the work would be hot and the example very catching. Italy would once more form the carcase that the Russian, the Austrian, and the French Eagle contend for, with the British Lion to standby. Happily for the cause of hu manity, there are nations that would keep out of the scrape—e. rj., the United States. But thero is not a State of the Old World that we could answer for in the neighbourhood of such a conflagration as would then be raised. If the war be necessary for safety or for honour, we do not shrink from the awful prospect. Why else our vast standing armaments ? But if our interest is so doubtful that posterity, especially a suffering posterity, might deny it altogether, we do recoil from these terrible consequences, and - ask from our own countrymen some (t that calm consideration which we have been preach ing to others. INVERNESS AND PERTH RAILWAY. It will be observed from the resolutions published in another-to.lumn that t wo exce ll en t an d mos t grat if y i ng meetings i n support of this scheme were held last week at h Weem and Kingussie on the 29th and 30th ult. ese meetings were attended by E. W. Mackintosh, of the o Raigmore and Peter Anderson, Esq., on behalf promoters of the line, by whom ample dtails as to the cost of construction ande probabilities of success were submitted. At the prietor in the district eera meeting almost every attended,pro thatC and . it was remarked when the Scotch much greater doubt of its Central Railway was started, success was expressed . than what seemed to be entertailni regards . the projected line. Among those present wereas Ballechini• ;_Sir Robert .Men zies of Menzies, Bart., who presided Menzies of ; Mr. Robertson Menzies of Chesthill ; Mr. Stewart of Co mmission er for men in For . Kildares ; Strowan Robertson zi eG of Dercullich ; Mr. Wylie, Bolfracks, the Marquis of Brendalbane ; Mr. Mr. Macdonald, Lassintulloch i Mr. Archibald Canaen! bell, Carrisemaey ; Mr. Cunningham, Perth, for sir William D. D. Stewart of Murthly, Bart., and for R. S. Fleming, of Nillichassie ; Mr. Macgilliewie, b anker, Pitlochry ; Mr. Stewart, Farlayere ; Mr. Connachar, distiller, Pitlochry ; Mr. Peter and Mr. Rankin, bankers, Aberfeldy; Mr. Kennedy, distiller and farmer, Ballechm. A subscription towards preliminary expenses was opened, and several handsome contributions were made. At the Kingussie meeting, Cluny Macpherson presided, and spoke at considerabl e l eng th i n sup p or t of the project, as did also Major Macpherson, Falls of Truim and the Rey. Mr. Grant There were present besides :—Captain Evan D uncan M acp h erson, B rea k ac h y ; M r . Fleming, factor for Sir George Macpherson Grant, and his tutor ; Mr. Robertson, tacksman of Banchor ; Mr. Malcolm Macpherson, Killihuntly ; Mr, Donald Macdonald, Shirramore ; Mr. James Macpherson, Nuid ; Mr. Dun can Macnab, Shirrabeg ; Mr. Duncan Macpherson, jun., banker ; Mr. William Mackintosh, merchant ; Dr. Kennedy ; Mr. Neil Kennedy ; Mr. Hobb, innkeeper ; Mr. Macrae, writer, Kingussie ; Mr. Gordon, Lyn • vulig ; Mr. Mackintosh, • Dell of Rothiemurchus ; and Mr. Goodsir, Doune of Rothiemurchus, besides a num ber of the villagers. The attendance would have been more numerous but for the arrangements in the country for sheep-spearing, &c. The presence of so many, not withstanding this important avocation, shows the in terest which is so generally felt along the proposed line. The gentlemen present put down their names for local subscriptions, and what is still more important, all the tenants signed an agreement in so far as they are con- ' certed to accept the annual value of the land required for the works without an y c h arge f or severance, d ue pro vision being made for commun i cat i on b y cross i ngs, a ll relative questions to be determined by arbitration, the expense thereof t o b e pa i d by the promoters or company. It is to be hoped this excellent example will be generally followed by the tenantry along the line ; and it would be well also were the pl an taken up with equal spirit and enthusiasm in other places.—lnverness Advertiser. .HATHAM 4LECTION.--A petition against the last re turn for Chatham has been prepared, and will be pre sented this evening. From circumstances that have come to the knowledge of the Liberal party, there is no doubt that bribery of the grossest character was carried on at the last election, and its exposure is believed to be certain and complete. _ MONEY MARKET AND COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.) CITY, TWO O'CLOCK. The sales of cotton at Liverpool yesterday were esti mated at 7,000 bales of which 1,500 were taken for export. The sales include 5,000 American, 150 Per nam and Maranham at 6/d. to 71d., 100 Bahia at 6.1 d., 1,000 Egyptian at 60. to 10d., 500 Surat at 31d. to 44.3., and 50 Sea Islands at is. 10d. to is. 11d. per lb. The market closed firmly but with much on sale. Rail way Shares were inactive at lower prices. In the Colonial Markets this week a moderate busi ness has been transacted, but the supply of most staples being ample prices have been rather favourable to the buyers. The reduced duty on foreign sugar has come into operation. Coffee has gone off without spirit. Tea has been firm and importers are disinclined to sell except at high prices. Saltpetre has realised very full rates. In cotton not much has been done. Rice, pri vately, has been dearer and in request. Tallow main tains the advance. The Indigo sales commence this day, and rather over 13,000 chests are to be offered. The amount of bills which the East India Company drew upon its Eastern possessions during the fortnight to last evening was, 720,333/. 14s. 4d., of which 628,630/. 13s. 2d. were on Bengal, and 1001. on Bombay. The following remarks upon English mines are from the circular of Messrs. J. S. Tripp and Co.:— " The good dividend mines in Cornwall have been more in request, though the recent fall in the prices of metal has very much interfered with their profits. The West Providence managers in their report just issued to the shareholders state, `that in consequence of the fall in tin, which amounts to 14/. per ton less than last quarter's ac count, on 62 tons amounting to 8681., they are prevented from giving more than 2/. per share, but should our pros pects continue as at present, we have every reason to believe, from the advanced price and improvement in the western levels, they will resume their former dividends of 21. 10s. per share.' This is a fair illustration of the effect the fall in the standard has had upon most dividend mines. "English mines at first would be greatly depressed, but as the demand for metal is generally very good, and as foreign supplies would be checked, we believe a rise, rather than a fall, would be the result, and that good English mines will maintain their prices better than any other public securities. "Advices from Australia are unfavourable asregards the Gold Companies. We have seen letters strongly urging the immediate sale of shares in these nuclei takings, upon the grounds that they are all spending money without any prospect of doing good." The English funds, which experienced a serious re vulsion yesterday afternoon, after the official hours of business, Consols being forced down to 97g. upon rumours of Lord Aberdeen's resignation, have recovered this morning, and have varied from 97i to 98. The present quotation is 97/ There are still strong hopes of peace being maintained, and fresh negotiations are stated to have been entered upon. The New Three and-a-Quarter per Cents. have been quoted 10in to 101, and the Three per Cents. 981 g. Bank Stock has been dull at 2281 to 2291. South Sea Old Annui ties have been steady at 100 g. Exchequer Bills have remained at is. to 45., and India Bonds at 255. premium. Foreign Securities have been rather buoyant. Por tuguese 4 per Cents. have been in request at 404 to 411. There appear to be hopes that the Commissioner now here will be enabled to offer some terms more satisfac tory to the creditors than those lately put forward, but no reduction of capital can be submitted to. Spanish Deferred Bonds have been heavy at 221, and the 3 per Cents. at 46. Railway Shares are all flatter than they were yester day morning, but have recovered from the nominal de pression of last evening when the funds declined. The transactions have been very limited, and principally in Caledonian, Lancashire and Yorkshire, York and Berwick, and Eastern Counties. French Shares are neglected. The Gold Mine Shares have been very quiet, and are depressed. In the Joint Stock Bank Shares there have been but few bargains. The Shares of the Land Companies are fluctuating, and the unfavourable view taken in Sydney of the pro perty of the Australian Agricultural Company causes them to rule heavy. BRITISH FUNDS THIS DAY. (From the Offcial List.) Business done. Bank Stock ...... ............... ..... 2294 8i 91 3 per C 01.,. Reduced Annuities ....... 9Eq 3 per Cent.,Consols Annuities 97H 87i x d New 34 per Cent. Annuities lOO4 1 Long Annuities, Expire sth Jan., 1860 Ditto 30 Years, Expire sth Jan. , 1860 SR 9-16 India Bonds, £IOOO Ditto, under £lOOO 25 South Sea Old Annuities Consols for Accoint 97i 87f 8 India Stock for Account Exchequer Bills, ld. £lOOO £5OO Small 1 4 p 1 4 p 1 4 p PRICE OF FOREIGN FUNDS THIS DAY. Austrian Bonds, 5 per Cent. •••••••••••••••••• 971 Brazilian Bonds, 5 per Cent Ditto Small 9 9 9 81 d Ditto New, 1852, 4i per Cent Equador Bonds Grenada Bonds, Deferred Greek Bonds, Red Mexican 3 per Cent. Ditto for the Account 2g 7 6/ Peruvian Scrip lf - (1 Portuguese Bonds, 4 per Cent. ...... Russian Bonds, 5 per Cent. .. Ditto for the Account Sardinian Bonds, 5 per Cent 932 Spanish Bonds, 3 per Cent 46 Spanish New Deferred, 3 per Cent 221 Ditto Passive (Converted) Spanish Committee Cert. of Coup. rot fun st Swedish Loan ... . ....... . ... i Venezuela Bonds, 31 per Cent. Ditto Deferred, 1 per Cent l5 Dividends on the above payable in London. Dutch Exchange, 2,i per Ce it. Ditto 4 per Cent. Certificates. 962 6 x d x d pc P THREE O'CLOCK. Consols for Opening 19th July 9B x d UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. CAMBRIDGE, JULY 7. M.A. COMMENCEMENT, 1853. At a Congregation holden this day the following degrees were conferred : Doctors of Divinity.—John Wilson, Catherine Hall; Henry Cole, Clare Hall. Masters of Arts.—Frederick George Ledsam, Trinity College ; David Craig, St. John's College ; G. Q. Head, Corpus Christi College ; H. B. Scougall, Corpus Christi College ; William Watson, Corpus Christi College ; Rich ard Morton, Catherine Hall. _ At the same Congregation, the under-ment'oned gentle men wore admittd ad cundent :—Constantine Estlin Pritchard, A.M., Balliol College, Oxon; Thos. Whitaker Nowell, A.M., Brasenose College, Oxon. At the same Congregation the following graces passed he Senate : 1. Dr. Colenso, of St. John's College, being about to proceed to Natal as bishop of that see, to return to him the fees and cautions paid to the University chest on the occasion of his taking the degree of Doctor in Divinity per saltum. 2. To appoint Mr. Wolstenholulp, of Christ's College, deputy proctor, in the absence of Mr. Clark. LANCASTER RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIO TELEGRAPH.) ARRIVALS. Vale of Lune Handicap—Sir Robert, Patience, Game hoy filly. Revival Handicap—Lenywbeut, Black Doctor, Little Davie, Remunerator, Allegro, Cleveland, Bold Davie, Lough Bawn. ENTRIES. Her Majesty's Plate, two miles—Remunerator, Mus tang, Trifle, Red Lion, Chief Justice, Lerrywheut, Soly man, Allegro, Missive, Deerhound, Killarney, Little Mary, Happy Joe, Little Davie, Patience. All here but Solyman. Borough Stakes—Emperor, Bold Davie, Little Mary, Baron Orsy, Mustang, Killarney, Happy Joe, Patience, Deerhound. Trifle has gone home. RAILWAY TRAFFIC RETURNS. SOoTTISH CENTRAL RAlLWAY.—Traffic return for the week ending July 3, 1853 . £2,224 15 111 Correspondan z week last year . WATERFORD AND KILKENNY RAlLWAY.—Traffic return for the week ending July 2 (29 miles) £ls2 8 3 Corresponding week last year (13 miles) 66 5 8 SYDNEY —THE PEEL * _ RIVER.—The Sydney journals the inflated views entertained in some remarks against received by the Chusa the depositsin this country at the end of last year of the value of belonging to the Australian Agricultural Company. the eonitpoate been called forth on the Peel River These remarks, however , as well out to be by a statement that thousand acres on .the Peel River had " three hundred an immense field of gold," which lations showing the exhaustless millions that Stcaedieelen. much gold dusettrii) di strict foot, appeared about that time time in some of h er must produce at anlaverage of so London periodicals. As regards any statements made e by the company, nothing has been put forward which has not been fully borne out by the evldence of th officials employed by the local Government, the e rep or t of the Rev. Mr. Clarke, the correspondence from the mines, for which the Sydney papers are themselve s re _ sponsible ' and the authenticated fact that the people of New South Wales were extremely anxious to get upon the lands by paying the ordinary licence fee, and were only prevented by the employment of force. THE STRIKE AT MANCHESTER.—The police have E,C • cepted the 2s. per week advance offered by the Watch Committee at Manchester, and were formally re-engaged and re-sworn on Thursday morning. The operatives of Messrs. Poolley, 350 in number, have received a satis -1 factory advance and resumed work. The other factory operatives still on strike in Manch:'ster are those of Mr. George Clarke, 80 ; Mr. S. Turnbull, 350 ; Messrs. Penny and Wood, 200 ; Messrs. Wood and Co., 80 (throwing out of employ 180 others) • and Mr. W. P. Clarke, 25. About 62 are g o i ng to Arike at Mr. Daniel Clarke's. Messrs. Douglas, dyers, have given their men (150) the advance required, but there are still about 500 dyers belonging to other firms on strike. Shr. I IN St. 11l 20 Aberdeen ..... Ambg. Nottug. lost. & Eastn. June Blrmng. Wolverh. dt Stour Valley 3 Birkenhd. Lancs. & Cheshire Juliet 11 Do. Chesh. & Birk , £5O & £25 Cons— -84 Do., £20.. ... O Bristol & Exeter O Caledonian. 11 Chester & Holyhead .11 Cork and Bandon 11 Cork, Black. & Pass :5 Dublin&BelfastJunc 11 Dundee Perth &Aber deen Junction .. 11 Do. New 11 East Anglian (X 25 L. & E. & L. & D.) 18 all Do., (XlB E. & H.) 1 20 all Eastern Counties 25 all Eastern Union, Classl A. late E. U. Sh 82 Do., do.. .11 Do., B. & C O East Lancashire . 11 East & West Ind. D • k & Binning. June O Edinburgh & Glasgow 1l Edinb. and Peebles CI Edinb.Prth.&Dundee O Glasgow &S. Western O Great Northern Stk O Do., A. Stock O Do., B. Stock )0 Gt. Sth. &West. (Ire.) )0 Great Western.. 1 Irlah South-Easters. 11 Lancaster & Carlisle 1 Do., Thirds O Lancash. drYorkshirei .6 Do., Fifths 14 Do., Wst. Riding Un 11 Leeds Northern ,11 Liv.ersby.&Soutbpt ,11 London & Blackwell' 3 Lond. Tilb. & Sthend. 0 Lond.Bright.&S.Cst. O London &N. Western 2 Do. Fifths 1 Do. ,16/.5h.,M&8...0 O London & &Western 26 Do., £50...... ••• ••• ••• 4 Do., £40... ••• ••• ••• 11 Lndndrry.&Coleraine 11 Lndndrry. & Ennisk. 0 Manch.Shef.drLineln. 4i Do., Man. &Lin. Un. O Midland ...... .. ... - • & 0 Do. Birming. " .Derby 7i Midland G. West.(lr.) 74 Do. 4 Shares .... ..... 11 Newcastle &Carlisle.. O Newmarket... ......... Do. Bury Extensions .6 Nowpt.Aberg.&Htfd 74 Newry & Enniskillen 11 Newry Warrenpoint & Rostrevor O Norfolk.— 11 Do., New 3 Northn. Counties Un )0 North British .3 North Devon, No.l 64 Do., No. 2.. .11 Dc., 4 A Deferred 5 Do., 6 B Guaranteed 7i North Staffordshire 11 North Western.. .... 0 N. &S. Westrn. Western 0 Oxford Worcester &, Wolverhampton.... O Scottish Central ..... O Scottish Midland..... O Shrewsbury & Birmg O Do., L. &N. Westn. Guaranteed Stock 8 Shrewsby. & Herd& 11 Shrewsby. & Chester (Nor. W. Min.)....., 134 1 all Do. Halves, d 0......, 20 all Do. Oswestry 20 64 Shropshire Union..., 50 all South Devon . 31 12l 22 1 St. 10 St. 10 50 a 50 a 20 a' 50 4 25 25 a] St. 101 50 al St. li 10 St. li St. 11 St. 11 St. 11 St. li 12 50 a St. 11 St. 11 20 : St. 50 40 25 25 1 St. 11 St: 10 St. 10 50 4' 25 1' LOO a] St. 101 25 I 1 , 50 ' 50 I St. 10 16 L 20 r 20 al 10 11 St. 101 St. 10 50 a] 20 1. 20 )O I South Ea5tern......... Xll South Wales ...... ..... L 5 S. Yorksh. River Dun ... I F 25 11 .61 Stockton & Hartlepl. .9 Thames Haven Dock and Railway 17 Vale of Neath al Waterfd. & Kilkenny Lll Waterford&Limerick L 3 West Cornwall... Is 20 1! 20 al 50 al 20 1 10 2: 10 Wmbleden&Croydou I 1 Woodford ..............I St. 100 YorkNewctl.&Berw. 25 20 Do. Extensions....... 25 1 St. 10 .1.1)o. G.N.E. Purchase )0 York do N. Midland.. PP,EFEREN St. 11 St. li St. 11 20 'Aberdeen .. !Do. No. 2, 7 p. c... Caledonian £lO Xll Chester & Holyhead Guar. 5i per cent.., 6i Cork &Bandonqp.e, al Dundee Perth &Aber deen Junction 34i all Bris. & E. 4 P. c. St. 5 Do. 4 p. c. Shares .. St. 101 15 a] 64 a] St. 11 5 St. lii St. 11 St. 11 EastAuglian (I:310s; ,_6 per cent tll Do. (X 5) 7 per cent. 2 Do. (X 7 17s) 7 p. c. al Eastern Counties Ex tension, 5 p. c. No. 1 ill Do. No. 2 all Do. New 6 p. c. St. all Eastern Union, Scrip Guar. 6 per cent )0 East Lancash. 6p. cts. ill Edinb Prth. &Dundee 51 per cent. Glasgow&S.Western Guar. 5 per cent )0 Great Northn. sp. c )0 Do. 5 p. c. Redeem., at 10 p. c. prem... 5 Do. 4i p.c. Scrip 11 Gt, Southn. &Westm (Ireland) Eighths) R. Westn. (Berks & Hants Ex. 5 p. c) Do, cov, red. 4A p.c 10 J 64 a] St. 1' 16 St. t St. 50 12U1( )0 Do. con. red. 4 - P. c. )0 Do. irred. 4p. c 6 Lan. & York. F. £2O )0 Do. 6p. c. Stock )O London and Brighton Guaranteed 5 p. c )0 Do. Pref., 5 p. c. St. Lll Do. Convertible, sp. c., 1852 )0 Do. New Guar.6 p. c. 5 London &S. Westerns Con. Thirds. .0 Londonderry&Color i Shares all Londy.&Ennis.iSh all Han., Shef., & Lin., 12i a] 12 St: 10 St. 10 Shares, No. 1. Do. Now, £lO 3 Do. £6 11 blarypt.&Carl.4 p.c ' 11 Do. 4i per cent 84 Do Consol.6 p.c.St Do. Consol. Bristol & Birm. 6 per cent Do. Pref. 4i per cent 6 Norfolk Extension 0 Do. 5 p. c. Est 10 Do. Guar. 54 per et 10 Do. Way. Val. sp. c 10 NorthEritish 1611 5 St. 10 St. 10 St. 10 St. 10 20 a] St. 10 di North Staffordshire )0 Oxford, Worcester, & Wolverh. £l5, 6 p.c. .2 Do 8 all Shrews. &Birm.N.G.' 10 all Shrewsby. & Chester (Nor.W.Min), 8 p.c. 10 10 Do. 5 per cent 25 all - 1.0.61 st. 111 South Devon. .41130. New all S. Eastern (Reading Ann.) of £1 Os. 6d. 00 Do. 44 percent. Pre. all S.Yorksh.4p.e.Guar. 3 Waterfd.&Kilk.6p.c. 00 York, Newcastlo,and Berwick,4 p.c. Pref. 5 Do.. 1 .0 I York&N. Midland 11. and S. Purch 10 3 Antwerp&Rotterclam 5 3 Belgian Eastn. June. 20 4 Beziers to Graissessac 20 all Charleroi& Erquelin. 20 10 Dijon andßesan9on 20 8 Dutch Rhenish . 20 all East Indian 20 1 Do. Extension 5 all Gt. Indian Peninsula 20 10 Gd. Junct. o France 20, 4 all Gt.Westernof Canada Shares 5 2 Lucca & Pistoj asp. c. pref L 5 Luxembourg LO Do. (Railway) 2 Do. 3 Do. (Canal).. 2 Do. 6p. et. pref 9 Lyons & Mediterran 7i Madras all Namur & Liege (with interest) all Do. (ex interest) all Northern of France Do. 201. 3 p. c Bds all (fmy.B.&Ams.Shs ) all NorwegianTrunkPref LO Paris and Lyons all Paris and Orleans all Paris and Rouen all Paris and Strasbourg 4 ParisCaen & Cherbrg. 7i Quebec & Richmond all Rouen and Havre, 2 Royal Swedish all Sambre and Mouse 2 Sth-Bastrn. of France 6 Southern of France ;s. Upper India Scrip all West Flanders 10 Do. 5,4 per c. Prof_ 10 Western of France._ 2 West. of Switzerland 6 Zealand.. 20 I 11 10 I 11 10 20 20 20 St. 11 St. 11 St. li THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, JULY 8, 1853. SHARE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) • BRITISH RAILWAYS. 'Paid.' RAILWAYS. Leasing Compans. Closing Prices this day. Business this day. lid 1 RAILWAYS. Closing Priceg this day. 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There was a heavy storm last night of rain, thunder, and lightning, which commenced about half-past ten, and continued until about three this morning. DEAL, July 7.—Wind, E.S.E. Sailed—The whole of the outward bound, except the Georgia and the Duchess of Sutherland. DOVER, July 7 .—Wind, W.S.W. Arrived—Palmetto, Boston, U.S., after stopping a leak. COWES, July 7 .—Wind, E. Sailed—Anna Lena, Ho bart Town. PORTSMOUTH, July 7.---Wind, S.E. Sailed—Victoria, Adelaide, S.A. _ PLYMOUTH, July 7.—Wind, S. W. Arrived—Alicia, Quebec. Sailed—Fear-not, Labradore. FALMOUTH, July 7.—The Ilorsvegen London to Quebec, which put in here on the 3d i ns t . with damage, after being in contact, is discharging SOUTHAMPTON, July 7 .—Wind, S.E. Arrived—Alde baran, Quebec. FLEETWOOD, July 7.— Arrived—ld.as, Weymouth, N.S. HULL, June 7.—Wind, W.S.W. Arrived—Lolland, Miramichi. Sailed—Urania, St. Domingo. DUBLIN, July 6.—The Agla,e, from Nantes, put in hero on the 3d inst. leaky, and is dicharging ; cargo slightly damaged. _ BRISTOL, July 7.—Wind, N.E. Arrived.—Eu, St. John's. KINGBOAD, July 7 . — Sailed ---- Pathfinder, New York. MlLFORD.—Arrived—Asia, Sierra Leone ; Hebe, Quebec. BELFAST, July 6.—Wind, W. Arrived—Pomona, Miramichi ; Britannia, Quebec. SUNDERLAND, July 7. Wind, S. Sailed—Ellen, Quebec. BIRKENHEAD DOCK COMPANY.—A special meeting of this company, held yesterday at the London Tavern, authorised the directors to accede to the proposals of the Birkenhead Dock Trustees, with regard to their several classes of bonded debt, and in respect to the bonds agreed to be granted to them by the company, and to assent to the provisions of the bill now before Parliament in car rying out the same. Mr. Rendel, the engineer, ex plained the extent of the alterations in the plans of the dock now proposed from those lodged in 1850. These were such as will suit the increased and increasing size of the shipping. ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY OF LONDON. —At the monthly general meeting, held yesterday, at the society's house, in Hanover-square, the Right Hon. Sir George Clerk, Vice-President, in the chair, his Grace the Duke of Ar gyll, Viscount Maidstone, Lieutenant Calvert, R.N., Major R. D. White, Dr. Travers Twiss, and Messrs. T. Broadwood, J. Fowler, G. R. Griffiths, E.lThornton, J. Learning, A. Mordan, J. Durdin, T. Fenn, W. Field, C. G. Logie, M.D., A. Lelievre, and Miss Thackeray were elected Fellows of the Society ; and Sir Edwin Landseer R.A., Captain Laffan, R.E., J. Cl utton, J. N. Tomkins, W. H. La Serre, R. Hill, W. J. Lock wood, T. De la Rue, H. R. Mark, J. Dixon, and G. Provost were proposed as candidates for the fellowship. The report of the Council stated that the visitors in the month of June presented a very large increase over the corresponding period of 1852, in consequence of the great interest created by the collection of zoophites and other marine animals which have been recently added to the menagerie. The number of species exhibited in the glass tanks receive continual additions by the successive donations contributed from various parts of the coast, and the list now includes a considerable proportion of the rarest forms known to inhabit our seas. The society received yesterday a highly interesting collection from Egypt, through the intervention of the Hon. C. A. Murray, by whose exertions the gardens have been en riched on so many previous occasions. The most popu larly interesting objects now obtained are a group of flamingoes and a pair of asudads—a singularly beautiful and active wild sheep from the hill country of Soudan. A second Eland calf was produced in the menagerie on the sth inst., and among the young birds most recently hatched are three rheas, or South American ostriches. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent dined with the Queen last evening at Buckingham Palace. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) RUSSIA AND TURKEY. Lord BROUGHAM wished to put a question to the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs ; and he begged to premise by stating that he had not had any commu nication whatever, direct or indirect, with his noble friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, or any other member of the Government, on the subject of the ques tion he was about to put. He should put the question entirely apart from them, but under a deep conviction of its importance in the present crisis of foreign affairs. A notice stood on the votes which had been given by a noble marquis for to-morrow night, and which, if made, must needs bring on a discussion of all which related to the present posture of affairs in the east of Europe. It was in most safe hands, whether he regarded the motives of his noble friend in bringing it forward, or the sound discretion under the control of which he was sure toact; but he wished to ask his noble friends opposite whether in the present posture of affairs no inconvenience, he might even say mischief, might possibly arise, he would almost say, might p ro b a bl y ar i se from such a discussion at this time. If, which heaven forbid, all negotiation was at an end, and a rupture was inevitable, then no mischief nor inconvenience could take place from a dis cussion. If, which heaven grant, negotiations were in such a state and posture that all difficulty and embar rassment was at an end, then again neither mischief nor inconvenience could arise. But if neither of those ques tions could be answered in the affirmative, then he would put it to his noble friend, the noble marquis, whe ther he would not act wisely by abstaining from bring ing the subject before the house at present. (Hear.) The Earl of CLARENDON said it was perfectly cor rect that his noble and learned friend had not communi cated with him or any other member of the Government on the subject of his question before he came into the house. In answer to his noble and learned friend's question, as to the very grave subject which now agitated the public mind, and with respect to which his noble friend, the noble marquis, had given notice for to-morrow, he could not say that there would be neither mischief nor inconvenience in the full discussion of that subject. (Hear, hear.) Unfor tunately, he could not say that negotiations had arrived at that point, or that the matter was so near a settle ment as to render a discussion upon the subject com paratively unimportant ; but he could say that negotia tions were going on, and that they most earnestly hoped that there might be a peaceful solution of the question —(hear, hear)—and he was sure that their lordships would be the last people in the country who would wish to do anything to prevent so desirable a result. (Hear, hear.) He entirely agreed with his noble and learned friend, that the question could not be in safer hands than that of his noble friend the noble marquis ; lie was indeed indebted to his noble friend already, for having once or twice put off his motion of which he had given notice, and having, with his noble f r i en d opposite, been content with such answers as he could give. He felt, after the great delay which had taken place in bringing this question to a solution, and the great interests con nected with it, together with the natural desire which existed, not only in their lordships' house, but through. out the country, to possess all the information which the Government could safely give, he felt that he could not again ask his noble friend to withdraw his motion, but he must reserve to himself, in replying to it, to say nothing more than his public duty would allow, and more than that he was sure their lordships would not require. He therefore did not make any application to his noble friend to postpone his motion, and he should be ready to meet him to-morrow; but, as he was on his legs, he would take the opportunity of asking his noble friend whether he would object to postpone his motion until Monday next. It would be convenient to have the dis cussion in both houses at the same time, and Lord J. Russell was so extremely unwell that it would be im possible for him to be in the House of Commons to morrow. He hoped, however, to be there on Monday. Further than that, he must rely on the judgment and discretion of his noble friend ; and he was sure that he would not press on any motion which might be prejudicial to the public interests. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUH said the noble earl who had just spoken, and the Government, must be de sirous of taking the first opportunity which they could take, consistently with the public interests, to make a full statement to the house, and if necessary to ask the opinion of Parliament on their conduct, or to ask for the support of Parliament. And if that was a fair conclu sion, from all that had proceeded from the noble earl, he thought the noble marquis would exercise a sound discretion, and only leave in v i ew th e pu bli c i nterests, if he deferred not only until Monday, but generally, without fixing at present any day, the motion of which he had given notice for to-morrow. (Hear, hear.) He was so strongly impressed with the importance of that postponement, that it was his intention to have pressed the noble marquis generally to have postponed his mo tion. He could not think it desirable that any state ment should proceed from the noble marquis, however temporary it might be, after which it would be impos sible for the Government to make any other than a par tial and maimed statement of the transactions that had taken place, and which must be unsatisfactory to the country. And if they were to go beyond that, and dis close matters for the convenience of debate, which, in their opinion, ought to be kept concealed, public mis chief, and not advantage, would be the consequence. That which was stated in the last paragraph of the mo tion which the noble marquis intended to propose, it might be proper for them at some future period to de clare ; but there was judgment not merely in saying the right thing, but in saying the right thing at the right time, and that time appeared cez vainly, at present, not to have arrived. Therefore he most earnestly suggested to the noble marquis that he should consider whether, in reality, it would be for the public advantaff"e that either to-morrow, or on M on d ay , a discussion should be forced on the house upon a transaction of so critical a character, in which it was impossible that her Majesty's Ministers could, consistently with their sense of duty, make a full disclosure. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of DERBY said the noble marquis had given his notice without consulting with any political party, or without reference to any political support he might have on the one side or the other, and after what had been stated by the noble earl the Secretary of State for Fo reign Affairs, it was hardly necessary that he should say that he, as well as the noble earl, was taken altogether by surprise at finding his noble and learned friend bring ing the question under the notice of their lordships. He was aware of the intention of his noble friend who had just sat down to make some suggestion ; and he merely rose to express, with the noble earl, his hope that the noble marquis would be content, notwithstanding the natural anxiety which he felt in common with the coun try, to await the solution of this question, and God grant that it might be a pacific one. (Hear, hear.) He trusted that the noble marquis would be satisfied for the present to leave the responsibility where it must rest ; namely, on her Majesty's Government, and not embarrass them by calling upon them to make disclo sures which might be disadvantageous to the public service, or be the means of bringing on a partial discus sion. He rose however, not so much fo r th e p ur pos e of expres s i ng his concurrence in the view taken by his noble friend, as for the purpose of expressing a hope that if this course was taken in their lordships' house it might also be thought expedient to adopt a similar course elsewhere ; and he stated that because the noble earl opposite had rested his ground of postponement on the necessity of a similar postponement taking place in the House of Commons until Monday next. Nothing could be more inconvenient than to have the mouth of one of the houses of Parliament silent on the discussion of a great question of foreign policy, and that a partial and imperfect statement should be made in the other. He could not make an appeal to the hon. gentleman who had given notice in the other house, but he could not but think that whenever the question was discussed, it was important that a debate should take place on the subject in both houses of Parliament. Earl GREY said if he rightly understood the answer of the noble earl to the question put to him by his noble and learned friend, he said that it was out of his power to deny that a discussion of this sort would not be attended by mischief and inconvenience. He thought, after such a declaration, the propriety of postponing the discussion must be obvious, and he could not think that any scruple which the noble earl might feel in asking the noble marquis to postpone his motion, because he had done so before, should be regarded by him. A sub ject of such deep importance must ultimately be dis cussed in both houses of Parliament ; and those who had no further information than that which they could ob tain from the public press, could hardly doubt that a discussion on this subject in both houses of Parliament must considerably increase the existing irritation, and lessen the chance which he trusted might still exist of a pacific termination. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE would be obliged if his noble friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs would repeat what he had stated, for it caught his ear very imperfectly. The Earl of CLARENDON said he intended to re peat the expression used by the noble and learned lord. He said he could not deny that there might be inconve nience and mischief in bringing on a full discussion of this subject at the present moment; but he did not think it right to ask his noble friend to put off his motion, because he should reserve to himself the right of saying n o thi ng that he thought would lead to inconvenience. (Hear.) The Marquis of CLANRICARDE felt that great re sponsibility rested upon him in this matter. He had not personally consulted with any member of the house, much less with any political party. After what had been said by the noble earl, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, he could not hesitate as to the course which it was his duty to adopt, as lie certainly did not wish to increase the dif ficulty which existed at this critical moment. He would not incur the risk, no matter how slight, of causing any inconvenience or mischief. At the same time, he must he permitted to say that there seemed to have been a misapprehension of the question, which he had thought it his duty to put. (Hear, hear.) Into the whole question he did net intend to enter, because an im portant part of that question, when it came to be fully discussed, would be the conduct of the Govern ment, which he did not think he could in any way ar raign, neither could he applaud or approve it until all the papers on the subject had been laid before Parlia ment. But it occurred to him that in the present state of affairs an expression of opinion by the British Parlia ment could not fail to have a great effect. In with drawing his notice it must be understood that he did so only on the supposition that the notice which had been giver in the other house of Parliament would be like wise withdrawn. (Hear.) Notwithstanding what had been said, his opinion remained unchanged, that at this St. 10 194 11 671 1001 21i 5} 12/ 111 85i 5 6 54 3 1341 5 88 a i i 101 a 1 Pm 76g 6 i 1 114 03 i i 28i 7(4 i 1 50 #i 8/ 9 si 9 684 8 12 58A 8 152 1/ 30. St. 50 St. 50 25 121 13i 20 20 all 100 all 100 all all all all all 100 100 100 181 9 all critical moment the expression of opinion by the two Houses of Parliament, and the sense of firmness which would animate, as he could see from the organs of pub lic opinion, every man in this country, in Parliament and out of Parliament, the expression of that firmness of opinion —and he did not wish to insinuate a doubt as to the feeling of the Government--would not be without considerable weight. He did not wish to encourage feelings of hostility, but he thought it would tend to effect a settlement of the question, and if that were not effected it might lead to a general war, such as, thank God, had not taken place since 1815. Under the cir cumstances, however, rather than incur the least pos sible risk, he would beg permission of their lordships to withdraw his motion. Earl FITZWILLIAM was desirous of asking his noble friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, whether a document, a copy of which he held in his hand, was believed by his noble friend to be authentic, and whether it was in the possession of the Government ? It was dated from St. Petersburg, the 14th (26th) June. It said that ever since his Imperial Majesty had occupied the throne of his fathers, the maintennnce of the holy obligations had been the object of his care ; and it con cluded with these remarkable words :—"lf, through stubborness and blindness it desired the contrary, then, calling God to our aid, we shall leave him to decide between us, and, with a full assurance in the arm of the Almighty, we shalrgo forth to fight for the orthodox faith." This was a most extraordinary document, and he was desirous of knowing whether her Majesty's ministers bad reason to believe it to be authentic or not? The Earl of CLARENDON had only to say that her Majesty's Government had received the document from her Majesty's minister at St. Petersburgh. It was for warded without comment, as having been published on the day on which it was sent ; and they had no further information on the subject. lie believed there were one or two points in which the translation had not been very accurate, in the copy to which the noble earl had re ferred. The concluding words, which he had read, "we will go forth to fight for the orthodox faith," he believed should be rendered, "we will go forth in defence of the orthodox faith." He believed, generally speaking, how ever, that the copy to which the noble earl had referred was correct. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of MAMESBURY would like to be assured that the Government would do all they could to prevent the proposed discussion in the other house on Monday next. If the Government would give an assur ance he should be satisfied. The Earl of ABERDEEN said it was impossible to give an assurance. All that they could do was to exer cise any influence which they possessed, and they would do their utmost. (Hear, hear.) The Marquis of CLANRICARDE—And if that in fluence should fail, I Am to be at liberty to bring on my motion here at the same time. SOAP DUTIES BILL. On the order of the day for the third reading of this hill, The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said when this bill was first brought into the House of Commons, it formed part of a great system of finance, prospective for the next seven year, founded altogether on the supposition that th• happy state of peace which had lasted for the last 40 years would continue. Since that time great changes had taken place, and at this moment the English fleet had been joined to the French fleet at the mouth of the Dardanelles, and it was not improbable that year might occur. They had likewise a fleet, not so large a one as he could have wished, but a considerable fleet, assembled at Spithead for the defence of the coast of this country, because if an action were to take place at the mouth of the Dardanelles, it must be obvious that a Russian fleet, with troops on board, might be at the mouth of the Thames, and therefore the circumstances were altogether different f-om those under which the repeal of this tax was proposed. 'Under these circumstances he thought it expedient that Parliament should hold its hand at the pre sent time. The noble earl (Aberdeen) had said it was not expedient at the present moment that he should enter into our relations with Russia. If he could not see daylight as to the ultimate result of the negotiations in progress, surely that was a reason for postponing the third read ing of this bill, which was for repealing a tax of material assistance to the revenue, every shilling of which they might want. He thought the bill ought not to be read a third time till the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs could enter into a full statement of our affairs with Russia, and he moved that the bill be postponed for a fortnight. _ _ The - Earl of ABERDEEN said it was his earnest hope that no such resource would be required. But if unfor tunately he should be mistaken in that view, and the very greatest calamity that could befal this country should be imminent, he did not think it was the duty of the Nouse of Lords to interfere and prevent the relief which would be afforded to the people by the repeal of these duties. And if it should so happen that this coun try should be placed in a state of war, the House of Commons would undoubtedly provide the necessary means for carrying it on. The Earl of DERBY altogether differed from the noble earl as to the relative positions of the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The noble earl must admit that on that (the Opposition) side of the house they had given ample proof in the course of the present session that they were not disposed to refuse such taxes as the House of Commons thought proper to repeal, or to impose such taxes as the House of Com mons thought proper to impose. But he altogether con curred in the view of the noble earl, who had brought this question under their notice, that at a time when to say the least of it, war was in a state of painful suspense, it was their duty not to put themselves in collision with the House of Commons, but to pause, an d no t t o ta k e an irreversible step by depriving this country of an amount of revenue which he believed amounted to some thing like 400,0001. a year. The Earl of ABERDEEN-1,200,0001. The Earl of DERBY—Then of course the case was infinitely stronger. Under the most favourable circum stances the Chancellor of the Exchequer did not expect a surplus of more than 280,0001., according to his last statement, and was it wise to sacrifice 1,200,000/. of revenue at such a juncture; was it not prudent to keep it in hand in order that the House of Commons might have a further opportunity of judging whether they were now in such circumstances that they could afford the relief. He apprehended the best course would- be to postpone the third reading of the bill for ten days, or a fortnight, or three weeks. The bill was then read a third time and passed. Their lordships then adjourned at ten minutes past Seven o'clock. ROUSE OF OOMMONS-(YESTERDAY.) RUSSIA AND TURKEY.-31r. LAYARD'S MOTION. Mr. LAYARD said—l wish to state the terms of the motion of which I have given notice for to-morrow. They are as follows ,—" That an humble address be presented to her Majesty, humbly to submit to iher Majesty that this house has heard with deep concern that the Emperor of Russia has announced a policy and adopted measures which threaten the integrity of the Ottoman Empire, and pray ing her Majesty that she will be pleased to direct that the fullest information on this subject be laid before this house as soon as is consistent with the public sen.lee." I wish to say a few words on a matter personal to myself. The motion of which I have given notice was fixed for to morrow. I received a note yesterday afternoon from the noble lord the member for London, asking me to put it off until Monday. I was not able to return an answer until this morning. To my surprise, I was in the house yester day without my knowledge, for I find it stated in the votes " that Mr. Layard's motion was deferred till Mon day the 11th." Unless some good reason is shown for de ferring my motion, I shall go on with on the day which has been assigned for it by her Majesty's Government. I must say it seems to me scarcely fair that an independent member should be treated in this way. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—With re ference to what has fallen from the hon. gentleman, I have to say that I am not able to give him any specific informa tion. Ido not know by whose direction or authority, the notice of postponement of the motion of the hon. gentle man was placed in the paper. I can, however, assure him that whatever has been done has been done with perfect " bona fides," and under the impression that he had con sented to the arrangement. My right hon. friend the First Lord of the Admiralty and myself are both in a position to state that the arrangement had been made with the con sent of the hon. gentleman, and whatever has been done has been done in perfect good faith, and with no intention to interfere with the liberty of the hon. gentleman as an independent member of the house. Mr. LAYARD—I should like to know by whom the notice of postponement was placed on the paper. If the Government will show good reasons for my doing so, I will postpone my motion until Monday. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I under stood the ground stated for the postponement was' one which the hon. gentleman had recognised as a legitimate one, viz., the indisposition of my noble friend the member for London. I believe it would be inconvenient to him to come down to the house to-morrow, and that being so, I thought the hon. gentleman had agreed to the postpone ment. Mr. LAYARD—I shall not hesitate to put off my motion until Monday. It is or ly this that I complain of —that before my answer was received the notice of post ponement had been given which has placed me in a false position. Mr. DISRAELI—I saw with great surprise this change in the order of the business of the house, not having been informed that the hon. member for Aylesbury had given any notice of postponement in the house yesterday, and it appears to me to be an arrangement of the business of the house by the Government which requires some explanation on the part of her Majesty's Ministers. What security have we for the orderly conduct of the business of the house if notices of motion which have been given are withdrawn on the part of members who aro not themselves present and who have not given their sanction to that course ? There is also an alteration in the business consequent on the assumption that the hon. member for Aylesbury had con sented to this arrangement ; I mean that the committee on the India Bill should be first on the paper. I understood, not three minutes ago, that a motion similar to that of the hon. member for Aylesbury had been postponetV at the request of the Government in another place. The reason for postponement in that place could not have been the indisposition of the noble lord the member for London. (A laugh.) I think that as this is a question of an imp or . tance which cannot be surpassed, there should be a clear xplanation of the matter, and some reason given to both houses by her Majesty's Ministers as to thee, e ---- post • ponement would be for the public interest and elmvenience. Sir C. WOOD—I may perhaps be able to give a solution of this matter, and I owe some apology to the hon. member for Aylesbury. Yesterday in the middle of the day ray noble friend the member for London sent to me And stated that he was so seriously ill that he was obliged to leave town, and that he had written to the hon. member for Aylesbury, stating that it was impossible for him to be in the house to-morrow, and asking him to postpone his mo tion till Monday. It would obviously be very inconvenient for that motion to be brought on in the absence of my noble friend. My noble friend then asked me if it would not be better to bring on` the committee on the India Bill. I came down to the house in search of the hon. member for Aylesbury, but was unable to find him ; but I felt cer tain that lie would not decline to postpone his motion. It was, therefore, very desirable that the earliest notice should be given as to what business would come on to-mor row, and I asked my right hon. friend the Secretary at War to give notice that the committee on the India Bill would come on on Friday, and that the other motion was post poned. My great anxiety was to give the earliest infor mation to the house as to what business was to come on. The house sat yesterday till within a minute of six o'clock, and its was practically i mposs ib le to give that notice in any other hape than by putting it on the paper. The right hon. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) is mistaken in saying that the debate in another place has been postponed at the re quest of the Government. A member of the Government was called on to say whether he could deny that mischief and inconvenience would ensue if that motion was brough on, and on his saying that he could not deny but that there would be some mischief and inconvenience, another mem ber of that house asked the noble marquis to postpone his motion, to which he consented. Mr. DISRAELI—I wish to ask the hon. member for Aylesbury whether, if the noble lord the member for Lon don should be recovered on Monday, it 5s clearly to be un derstood that he will bring on his motion. Mr. LAYARD.—Most certainly. lam not supposed to be cognisant of what has taken place in the other house, and v'iless good reason is given in this house to justify m e in the eyes of the country in withdrawing my motion, I shall bring it on. The subject then dropped. , THE ADVERTISEMENT DUTY, Sir J. SHELLEY begged to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he could inform the house when the resolutions with regard to the advertisement duty would be brought on, and he hoped that they would not be post poned till so late a period of the session as to prevent those interested in the discussion from being present. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could really assure the hon. gentleman that there would be no postponement for postponement's sake ; and that was the only assurance he could give as far as postponement was concerned. It was impossible, considering the important business now pending before the house, to make it second ary to the advertisement duties, as he could not say on what day they would be brought on. No delay, however, should take place except what was unavoidable, and he would take care that they were not brought on without due notice. THE OBSTRUCTION OF THE DANUBE. Mr. LIDDELL begged to ask of her Majesty's Govern ment whether any instructions have been sent out by her Majesty's Government to inquire into the case of British vessels at present detained in the Danube owing to the im perfect state of the navigation of that river : and whether, in the event of hostilities with Russia before such ships can be liberated, a sufficient force will be sent out to that part to prevent their falling into the hands of hostile powers. Lord PALMERSTON—The recent obstruction of the navigation of the Sulina channel of the Danube has been caused by the accidental circumstance of the waters of the river having overflowed and spread over the banks, and so far diminished the force of the current as to increase the quantity of mud on the bar. This particular inconvience is temporary, and will no doubt cease when its cause has also ceased ; but I am bound to say that, for Many years past, the Government have had reason to complain of the neglect of the Government of Russia to perform its duties as possessor of the territory of which the delta of the Danube is composed, and to maintain the channel of the Sulina in an efficient navigable state. (Hear.) It was my duty, when Secretary for Foreign Affairs, to make frequent represen tations to the Russian Government on the subject; and Russia, although she always admitted that it was her duty to do so—admitted that which we asserted—that as Rus sia thought fit, by virtue of the treaty of Adrianople, to possess herself of the mouths of the Danube, that that ,great watercourse and highway of nations, leading into the centre of Germany, it was her duty to see that great highway was maintained and made accessible (ac cording to the treaty of Vienna) to the commerce of all nations. (Hear, hear.) Russia never disputed that state ment, and she asserted always that she was employed in using means to remedy the grievance. The grievance p was this—that while these mouths of the Danube formed art of the Turkish territory, th ere was maintained a depth of 16 feet on the bar, whereas, by the neglect of the Russian authorities the depth had diminished to 11 feet, and even those 11 feet were reduced to a small and narrow channel from obstructions on the side, from sand-banks, and from vessels wrecked and sunk, and allowed to remain there, so that it was difficult for any vessel to pass, except in calm weather and with a skilful pilot. (Hear.) We were also aware that there were local interests that tended to thwart what we believed to be the intentions of the Russian Goverment. In the first place, there was rivalship on the part of Odessa, where there existed a desire to obstruct the export of produce by the Danube, and to direct it, if possible, by way of Odessa. (Hear.) There were also those little local interests which arise from the profits that bargemen and lightermen, and persons of that class, make by unloading the s t eamers th a t come down the Danube, so as to enable them to pass the bar, reloading them again outsid e th e b ar. These local eelings and in terests must have obstructed, without their being aware of it, the good intentions of the Russian Govern ment, they have always promised they would take the most effectual measures. They said they would send a steam. dredge to carry away all the obstructions on the bar. The steam-dredge came, and the steam-dredge worked, but in two hours it was always put out of gear from some ac cident or other—(a laugh)—and they were obliged to go back to Odessa for repairs. (A laugh.) We recommended that the Russian Government should pursue the method by which the Turk'sh Government kept the channel clear. That method was a very simple one. They required every vessel that went out of the Danube to tack to their stern a good iron rake, and by that means the passage of each vessel kept the channel clear, a depth of 16 feet being con stantly maintained. (Hear, hear.) I understand, that in addition to the representations I made when at the Fo reign -office, constant and emphatic representations have been made to the Russian Government on this subject, and I hope that that Government, while they break throug h those trammels which hitherto seem to have impeded their proper action, will see that it is a positive duty which they owe to Europe to maintain free and open that pas sage, which by force of arms, they obtained, and which they believed themselves justified in retaining by the treaty of Adrianople. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LIDDELL directed the attention of the noble lord to the second part of his question, which he had not answered. Lord PALMERSTON.—I apprehend the question of the lion. gentleman relates to vessels which are now con fined within the Danube and the Russian territory for want of water. If, by any misfortune, which I cannot anticipate, war should arise between this country and Russia, it would not b e easy f or a B r i t i sh ship of war to get up to those vessels without water. (Laughter.) BETTING-HOUSES. In answer to Mr. A. PELLATT, Lord. PALMERSTON said that a bill had been pre pared by the Attorney-General, which appeared well cal culated to attain the object of suppressing betting-houses in the metropolis. Notice would bo given of it imme diately ; and he hoped there would be no difficulty in pas. sing it into a law this session. POSTAL ARRANGEMENTS. Mr. WILSON, in answer to an hon. member, said that arrangements had been made with the railway companies for improving the postal communication with Maccles• field and the neighbourhood. COLONIAL POSTAGE. In answer to Mr. HUME, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the measure for reducing colonial postage had been pushed forward with every possible expedition, and no time would be lost in calving it into effect, as soon as the necessary communications with the colonies had been completed. SMITHFIELD MARKET. Sir B. HALL called attention to the act passed in 1851, for the removal of Smithfield Market. He said, the late Hoine-Secretary had approved of a plan submitted to him by the corporation of London, with this exception, that the area proposed by them, 50 acres, was not suffici ently extensive ; in cons equence o f which, it was extended to 70 acres. He understood the corporation proposed to let off a large portion of this ground on building leases ; and he wished to know whether any communication had been made to the government as to the area. they proposed to allot for market space, and that which they proposed to let off. Lord PALMERSTON said no communication on that subject had been made since he had been at the Home office. The act gave only one power to the Secretary of State—to sanction, or to refuse to sanction, the site pro posed for the new market. That sanction once given, no further power of interference was reserved by the act to the Secretary of State. The act also empowered the cor poration to dispose of a portion of the land, i f it wero of a greater extent than was required for their purposes. MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL AND PILOTAGE BILL. Mr. CARDWELL, at the request of Mr. TOLLEMACHE, fixed the committees on these bills for 12 o'clock on Tues day next. _ _ SUCCESSION RUTX,BILL. a Mr. Chan cellor moThnoeinghowuisethtthhe u enw th ent ol i a n n t s o o. conimittce on this bill, corn- Afte o r f t a he co E n x ve nh rs e a g t o io e n r, h i t nw e Butt took part, the clause was agreed to with some verbal amendments. hSioclhicijatorrlGHeneenFleayl, tnhde On clause 43, which empowers the commissioners to compel the production of books by accountable parties, Mr. WALPOLE took soi.e objections to,the-eXtensive nature of the powers there given. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER consented to a modification. Mr. MULLIN GS moved an amendment excepting title deeds, muniments, and evidences of title. Ho referred to cases where injury to the proprietor had arisen from title deeds being produced and defects discovered. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he assented to the doctrine that they would not take power to compel the production of any documents except such as were ordinarily or frequently necessary to make out the case for the amount of duty to be paid, and to show that they were taking it from the right p ar ti es . It was impos sible for them not to take power to inspect documents which would show what the property of the parties was. With :egard to any danger that might arise from the in spection of title deeds as to the valiuity of the title to the estate, he thought the danger was imaginary, because these documents would only come under the view of public officers who were responsible for the proper discharge of their duties ; and the experience they had under the in come tax showed that there was no danger of secrets being made known. (Hear.) Sir G. 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