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stood. A committee had sat upon this subject at an early "date, and when they reported that the debts and the finances of the two countries should be consolidated, with what view did they make that report ? Did they make that report in the sense of imposing a burden upon Ireland for the relief of England, or of imposing a burden upon England for the relief of Ireland ? They imposed a heavy burden upon England for the relief of Ireland, and that statement rested upon figures which were upon the table of that house. They had been told it was a great hardship that Ireland, paying 4,000,000 1 . or 5,000,0001. a-year, should pay anything more into the na tional Exchequer. Why, in 1815 , just befor e this subject was examined, and before the debt of Ireland was consoli dated with the. debt of this country, the an nual charge o f debt upon Ireland, irrespective of one farthing of chargess. for military or civil government ,— the mere charge o tet f Irish debt was 5,900,000/. (Hear, hear.) T his, he rera_ _ s l. sum the simple charge of her debt ; and, having . pa d ttei of 5,900,0001., expenses of a civil and milita r y character had still to le met. Such was the state of things which was put an end to by the Act of Union, and after c th n a e t ar it , was that this motion was made for a committee. " hear," from the Opposition benches.) Hon. gentlemen did not seem to think this demonstrative enough. They ap peared to believe that the pay ment by the Irish nation of nearly 6,000,000 1 ., besides al l charges of expect governme nt,them before the Act of Union, w as an am p le p roof that to to pay more than 4,000,0001. or 5,000,000/. now was a gross injustice ;—that was to say, Ireland was called upon now to contribute to the annual payment upon her debt and to the expenses of her government together a great deal less than she had been before paying—or rather than she had been bound to pay for debt alone • and that, they thought, was no demonstration at all ! Well, then, there was another return upon the table of this house. It was moved for by the hon. member for Glasgow in 1849, and in this return they would see the revenue and the expenditure of Ireland in every year from 1817 to 1848. The expenditure oil account of Ireland in 1817, including civil and military charges, was 10,241,000/. ; and the total payments into the Irish Exchequer, as against that expenditure, were 4,381,0001. ; so that the amount provided from the British Exchequer to make good the deficiency was 5,856,000/. in that single year. This was one of the proofs which the hon. and gallant colonel wanted a committee to show. Ho would not weary the house by giving all the figures of this return, but there was a column showing the payments made by the Exchequer from 1817 to 1848, and the very lowest payment made in any one yemefor Irish expendi ture and Irish debt out of the British Exchequer,—that was to say, to make up the deficiency of Irish debt and expenditure, was 1,977,000/. but, generally speaking, it was from 5 , 000,0001. to 6,0003,0001- during the early part of the period, and from 2,000,0001. to 3,000,0001. during the latter part. If this was the case no committee was wanted to inquire whether Ireland was paying more than her fair proportion of taxation. (Hear, hear.) The figures he had quoted showed that she had not been paying at any period the charges immediately applicable to her in re spect to her debt and government , and that was, he ap prehended, without charging Ireland with any portion of our colonial expenditure. 'The hon. and gallant gentle man (Colonel Dunne) had not, he believed, adverted to the terms of the Act of Union, nor to the fact that it contem plated or provided for the principle of consolidated finances and equal taxation ; and that that principle was to become applicable when the debt of Ireland had reached a certain proportion of the debt of England ; it reached a much higher proportion than the debt of England at the end of the war, and was precisely the case which was provided for by the act. The debt of Ireland reached an annual charge of nearly 6,000,000/. a-year, when the annual charge of the English debt was by no means in that proportion ; and then committees of this house sat, and recommended the abolition of the separate system. On the 19th of June, 1815, a committee of this house reported that, on the whole, with a view to the equal advantage of all parts of the empire, and of relievin g Ireland from a burden which experience had proved to be too great, and at the same time with the hope of rendering her resources more pro ductive, it was expedient to consider the propriety of declaring that all future national expenditure should be defrayed indiscriminately by taxes raised from the same articles in each country ; and so on. Whe ther these facts appeared material to the hon. and gallant colonel he did not know, but he thought his noble friend (Lord C. Hamilton) must be convinced that the Act of Union had boon strictly and punctually carried into execu tion, and not for the oppression, but for the relief, of Ire land from burdens too great for her to bear, and to make the comparative power and resources of England available in order to meet those burdens. In this way from 2,000,0001. to 6,000,0001. had been annually paid out of the British Exchequer for the purpose of meeting charges created by expenditure on account of Ireland, which would have con tinued due, and which would have had to be borne by Ireland if she had continued separate from England. (Hear, hear.) He ventured to hope after this that the house would consider there was no occasion for a commit tee of inquiry into a matter which was as clear as daylight at this moment. (Hear, hear.) Free trade, forsooth, had had to bear its part iu this discussion, as if nobody in Ire land had gained by free trade ! (Hear, hear.) As if no body in England had lost by it ! Had the fall of prices been confined to Ireland ? Had there been no fall of the prices of agricultural produce in this country ? Ireland, speaking generally, was a country in which oats were the principal cereal produce, while wheat was the principal produce of England. On which, he should like to know, did free trade and foreign competition bear mast ? (Hear, hoar.) Why, upon wheat. (Hear, hear.) Then they had been told about the destruction of Irish manufactures. NoW, what was gained by the use of the language of hyperbole in the debates in that house ? (Hear from Colonel Dunne, and laughter.) The hon. and gallant gentleman cheered that sentiment. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had thought that Belfast was in Ire land. (Hear.) He had been under the impression that there were manufactures in Belfast, and that they were not in a retrograde condition. He had heard some people so audacious as to say that the manufactures of Belfast were advancin g faster than the manufactures of almost any other part of the United Kingdom. (Hear.) And yet speeches in that house were to be pointed by dole ful ditties upon the destruction of Irish manufactures ! (Hear, hear.) He agreed with hon. gentlemen that the Government were bound to be not only just but conside rate towards Ireland. The injustice of this proposition was shown in the first place by throwing overboard alto gether the consideration of the consolidated annuities, (Hear, hear.) Of course, if in a matter of figures all the items on one side were struck out, you might come to any result you desired. But he objected to this plan of striking out all the items on the other side of the account. This, however, was not a mere matter of account, and the great fallacy lay in so considering it. Ireland consisted of pro vinces and classes which must bo separated in considering the proposals of the Government, which gave relief to those who wanted it and laid burdens ou those who could bear the burdens. (Hear, hear.) The fact was, that the rich parts of Ireland had been hitherto exempted and excused from paying their debts from their conjunction with the poor parts. (Hear, hear.) Leinstor and Ulster had no ground for objecting to the imposition of the income tax. It was said that Ireland was a poor country, but what was a poor country? It was a country in which money was scarce. But if Ireland were a poor country, it followed that a man with 1501. a year was richer in Ireland than a man of the same income in England. (Hear, hear.) He thought that the strictest justice demanded the extension of the income tax to Ireland. The income tax in Munster would yield from 85,0001. to 87,0001. from real property, and it would relieve that province from the payment of about 90,0001. from consolidated annuities. It might bo said that the two amounts were about equal, but that would be a fallacious method of looking at the question. Who paid the consolidated annuities ? The landlord and tenant. Who paid the income tax ? The landlord and the mortgagee. The gross amount might be the same, but while the landlord would still pay about half, the mort gagee would pay the other half, instead of the tenant. (Hear, hear.) Did Irish members really suppose that the people of England would abandon the consolidated an nuities, and forego the income tax too ? If, as practical men, they thought it possible to prevail upon Parliament' to give up the consolidated annuities, and not to impose the income tax, he could understand their conclusions, but he admired the sanguine temperament which enabled them to come to such a conclusion. (A laugh.) The hon. gen tleman the member for Ennis had shown very clearly the falsity and absurdity of the pretence that the poor parts of Ireland were going to shift their burdens upon the richer parts. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) especially protested against the assumption that Ireland was ag grieved by the increase in the spirit duties. If Ireland were aggrieved by an imposition of a duty of 190,000/. upon spirits, had not Scotland a right to complain that a duty of 270:000/. upon spirits was imposed upon her with out any gift of consolidated annuities ? (Hear, hear.) Yet, not a single voice had been heard, either in that house or out of it, from Scotland saying, " Can't you give us some thing by way of compensation for the additional spirit duties you are going to levy upon us ?" (Cheers.) The principle was to levy as large a duty upon spirits as you could collect. He had heard something about the rights of man, but he denied that it was one of the rights of man that Irishman should get, intoxicated upon whisky at 2s. 4d. a-gallon. (A laugh.) He thought it would bo a gross wrong to levy three times as much duty upon spirits in England as in Ireland, and he protested against putting clown this , additional spirit duty as a wrong and burden inflicted upon Ireland. For these reasons he besought the house not to accede to the motion of the hon. gentleman. (Cheers.) Sir J. PAKINGTON was not prepered to say whether or not the hon. member for Portarlington had taken the test course in moving for a select committee, but he would vote for any form of proceeding by which ho could express his opinion that the budget bore hardly and unfairly upon Ireland. (Cheers.) At all events, no inconvenience could be sustained from Ireland being exempt from income tax until the select committee had reported. The right hon. gentleman had accused his noble friend of passing over figures, but he had shown the same good judgment in pass ing over the speech of the right hon. member for Ports mouth (Sir F. Baring). He had not heard any attempt on the part of hon. gentlemen opposite to answer that speech. As an English member, unconnected with Ireland, lie thought the great defect of the budget was its want of im partiality. The right hon. gentleman said, as a reason for imposing the income tax, that Ireland was relieved from the consolidated annuities, but he could not accept this answer, and he thought it a great mistake on the part of the Government to put the consolidated annuities in the same category with regular taxation. What was the origin and cause of the consolidated annuities ? They were the result of that awful infliction with which it had pleased Providence to visit Ireland. A part of this debt was indeed, incurred by building workhouses for the unions. Ire sat up-stairs upon a committee where the relative distress of the Irish counties was exhibited by a shaded up on P. th e be con so lid a t e d annu iti es had pressed heavily black unties of the west and south, and the' lief, and very im Excheque r was go i ng t o g i ve th em re word to say b orttnt re li e f , aga i nst w hi c h h o h a d no t a utpwhich relief was no adequate reason why Parliament was t o north not only with 'tress the whit e count i es of t h e east and t the incom e tax, but with a great addi tional burden of taxation . ( hear, hear.) From the moment the Lords' committee macho their report, the consolidated annuities must have been consi t l o e r iz3d as virtually gone, and it became morally impossible this t bt w collect as them. (Hear, hear.) A great_ pohretiCron" connected with the workhouse loans, which h not see not t l why the Government should rem i t at all, ire did . not see why this portion of the eonsolidated mime be paid. (Cheers from the Irish ineniber ' s l cs should . cellor of the Exchequer had , iu fact, thrown awlalerf rt 4 Chsaliit. ously and unnecessarily, a considerabl e portion of °abt . which he might not onl y have recovered, but whiell he Was bound to recover. (Cheers from the Irish members.) The right hon. gentleman (Sir C. Wood) lest December said not only that Ireland could not bear an income tax, but that she could not bear additional taxation. The Im n .. - cellor of the Exchequer stated that the remission of the consolidated annuities was an equivalent, but wile e ese ll abandoned 240,000/. a year from this source, he an income tax of 460,000. ; he duties, bringing imposed , an d seco in ndl tile third duties, in 198,000/. a year ; place, he imposed a succession tax. t It talvxa: for r ffielt t e o get the at the amount to be raised from k hon. member for Dungarvan reckoned the amount at 300,0001., the noble lord (.T. Russell) and the Chancellor of the Exchequer said it would not exceed 60,0001. Did the right hon. gentleman call that an equivalent? It, must be looked at as an Irish kind of equivalent. The right hon. gentleman professed to be a follower of Sir hobo t Peel, but let him remind him of the course which Sir R. Peel had taken with regard to Ireland. (Hear.) In 18'2, when the income tax was proposed, it was naturally d aired by English members that Ireland should bear her ortion of the burden ; but Sir R. Peel said he did not prop xe to levy an income tax upon Ireland, and as a substitute, h . , imposed a duty upon spirits and some additional stamp duties. The latter, he believed, to some extent, still remained, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer not only proposed to give Ireland an income tax, but to levyan additional spirit duty of au amount equal to two-thirds of that which Sirß.Peel imposed as a substitute for the income tax. These were, to his mind, satisfactory proofs that the budget of the right hon. gentleman bore hardly upon Ireland. (Hear, hear.) And let it be remembered that Sir R. Peel took the course he had described in 1842 before the heavy affliction of a famine had fallen upon Ireland. Parliament was now told that there was no reason why Belfast should not pay in cern° tax; but Belfast was not all Ireland. Belfast might be prosperous, but he could not believe that any country could go through such an ordeal as Ireland, and suffer such a visitation of Providence without having its means se riously crippled. (Hear.) In conclusion, he must repeat that he had heard no attempt made by any member of the Government to answer the clear and able statements of the right hon. member for Portsmouth,--statements which did not go back to the Act of Union, which did not dwell upon one portion only of the budget, but which took a compre hensive view of the whole subject and its probable bear iegs, both now and in 1860. The right hon. gentleman had arrived at the r es ult that the immediate balance in favour of England by the budget was 1,040,0001., while there war a balance against Ireland of 413,0001. Then, looking to the year 1860, and supposing the whole of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's plans to be carried out and the income tax to be repealed, he found that the further remission of taxes to England would be 6,715,0001., while to Ireland it would be only 47,0001. (Hear, hear.) He thought that these figures fully bore out the opinion which, as an English member, be had deemed it his duty to make, that the present budget did bear hardly upon Ireland, and that it was not conceived in that spirit of fairness and impartiality to all parts of, the empire which ought to characterise a measure of thilieature. (Hear, hear.) Mr. F. SCULLY said that the Government of which the right hon. gentleman who had just sat down was a member had last year collected from poor Ireland no less than 120,0001. under the consolidated annnities. They had pro posed, also, the extension of the income tax to Ireland, and he believed that if they were now in office they would be discussing the question of the income tax without the abo lition of the consolidated annuities. (Hear, hear.) The present motion of the hon. and gallant member for Port arlington had upon the face of it very strong recommenda tions. He had always as a speaker supported the principle of inquiring into the fiscal regulations of the two countries, and if this question were now per se before the house, he would say that it should be agreed to. He believed that there had been exaggerated statements made on both sides with regard to the amount of debt due by the two coun tries, and he thought, therefore, that it was a fair subject for inquiry. But there were other questions which also required looking into. Rateable property in Ireland at present paid 4s. in the pound, while in England it paid only ls. 10d. This ought to be assimilated before both were placed upon the same footing with regard to taxa tion. Under the proposed system, also, the payers of county rate and poor rate in England would obtain some relief, while the payers of the county uses and poor rates in Ireland would obtain nene. Again, there was a large increase in the burdens upon this description of property in Ireland. The Medical Charities Bill, the relief of pauper lunatics in Ireland, criminal prosecutions and gaols, all the results of recent legislation, or greatly enhanced in amount within the last few years, would add considerably to the burdens upon that country ; but as they were outlays for the benefit of all, he contended that they should be dis charged out of the consolidated fund. At all events, the extension of the income tax to Ireland would certainly compel the consideration of all these questions. (Hear.) With reference to the calculations of the right hon. member for Portsmouth, it struck him that a great fallacy pervaded them. The right hon. gentleman said that in 1860 England would gain 6,715,0001., while Ireland gained only 47,0001. But the right hon. gentleman had based that calculation on the assumption that in England there would be a remission of the income tax, amounting to 5,500,000/., while in Ireland he had only calculated the remission of the consolidated annuities, with the increase of the spirit duties, and had left out of view the income tax altogether. That was a most important omission. He supposed it had been made inadvertently at the time, but he wondered the right hon. gentleman opposite (Sir Y. Pakington), after a calm consi deration of the question, should have repeated and adopted that statement. He (Mr. Scully) calculated that in 1860, if the income tax were remitted in both countries, Ireland would be a great gainer ; but that if it were continued in England, it clearly must be extended to Ireland. Upon that he believed there could be no two opinions. If it were continued in England, it must sooner or later be extended to Ireland. (Hear, hear.) There were numerous objec tions to the details of the income tax which he thought might with advantage be discussed in the committee ; but, at all events, let them have an inquiry similar to that now moved for by the hon. and gallant officer, because he was convinced, if it should result in a report that Ireland was unfairly taxed at present, that the impost of the income tax would be removed in the succeeding year. Under ex isting circumstances he feared, however, that the motion would be regarded as a factious one, and he did not ap prove of a factious opposition to the Government. He had seen too much of it already to like it. He preferred to take a common-sense, intelligible view of these matters, and he begged, therefore, to suggest to his hon. and gallant friend that he should strike out from his resolution the words, " before additional taxation be extended to Ireland." (Hear, hear.) Mr. MAGUIRE thought the hon. member for Tipperary (Mr. F Scully) was altogether wrong in imputing factious motives to the hon. and gallant mover of the motion, and deemed it his duty, as an Irish member, to take every pos sible opportunity of opposing what he must consider an injustice to Ireland. The right hon. gentleman, in one of the jauntiest speeches far a Chancellor of the Exchequer he had ever heard, had stated that the taxes now to be im posed on Ireland were just, and were acknowledged to be BO by the greater portion of the people of Ireland ; but he had seen a protest against the income tax, which proceeded from gentlemen connected with Tipperary, and he had heard of others from Mayo and Galway. If he wore allowed to mention a secret, he might also tell the house that the hon. member for Mayo narrowly escaped being chaired at a fair in Galway the other day on account of his having opposed it. (Laughter.) There was also a petition signed by 3,500 inhabitants of the city of Cork against it. He had communicated with his own constituents, and the result showed him that the general feeling was strongly against the tax. The attempt to gull the people of Ireland, by say ing that they should pay 460,0001. a-year in return for a gift of 245,0001., was something more than a mere financial juggle ; it was an Exchequer swindle. (Oh, oh ! and laugh ter.) He did not wonder at Englishmen laughing; but he was astonished, when the trick was so stale, the juggle so plain, that an Irish member could be guiles - 16y it. It did surprise him that any hon, gentleman could be ao simple as to say that the consolidated annuities would last 40 years, and that the income tax would last only six. Why, nobody could doubt that the consolidated annuities were virtually gone. (Hear, hear.) The late Chancellor of the Exchequer had intiinated an intention on the part of his Government to deal with them. The hon. member for Tipperary had the audacity, the hardihood, to assert that the Government of Lord Derby was pledged, by its organs in the press, and by its electioneering agents on the hustings, to aban don them ; but with regard to that he would remark, that he was one of those Irish members who were induced to vote against the budget of the late Government by the authoritative announcement that if the Opposition were successful, and the present Government came into power, they would not impose the income tax on Ireland. He was one of those Irish members who felt indignant at the attempt of the late Chancellor of the Exchequer to put in the sharp end of the wedge of taxation. But the right, lion. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) had asked only for an addi tion of 60,0001. ; that surely was something of a justifica tion for his opposition to a s c h e m e which demanded the immoderate sum of 460,0001. The late Sir It. Peel had refused to impose the income tax on Ireland in 1842, when the poor rates were not more than 280,0001. What were they now ? Not less than 900,0001., while they were nearly 1,200,0001. The Chanc e ll or o f the Exchequer had not shown much courtesy to the hon. and gallant gentleman (Colonel Dunne), but he had shown still less sympathy for the sufferings of the people of Ireland. The right lion. gentleman seemed to overlook entirely the years of suffer ing and famine which Ireland bait unhappily experienced. (" Divide, divide.") He thought it was a question worthy of consideration in a committee, whether Ireland was or was not in a position to bear an additional burden of taxa tion. Nine millions of property had changed hands, and a similar amount was about to undergo the same process through the agency of the Encumbered Estates Court. Was there no suffering or misery entailed upon large classes of people by such a proceeding, or was it to be con sidered as a sign of prosperity ? He contended that the creditors and mortgagees, a very numerous class in the country, were extensive sufferers by the operation of these Courts. The Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed to put one million of additional taxation upon Ireland, and to remit at the same time about 459,000/., so that the gross income would be 541,0001. The hon. gentleman than entered into an elaborate calculation for the purpose of establishing the assertion that the local burdens paid by Ireland amounted to nearly 8,000,0001. The right hon. gentleman had spoken of free trade. He did not object to it abstractedly ; at the game time, lie believed it was working ill to Ireland, There was not a single class in Ireland which had not suffered by free trade. The value of all property had been reducol by it. Ho never was more impressed with the necessity of Ireland having full control over her own concerns than when he heard the speech of the Chancellor of the Exchequer the other night. It was asked whether they were so sanguine —" sanguine" was the word, foolish was the meaning —as to hope that they could wipe out the consolidated annuities and not have an income tax, Ho would ask whether lie had not a right to expect that the consolidated annuities should be remitted? (No, no.) He contended that the people of Ireland had, not only on the grounds of sympathy and generosity, but on tho grounds of justice. Ireland contributed 5,000,0001. a-year to the cousulidated fund ; did not that entitle them to some claim? He, however, meant to impute no blame to the Chancellor of the Ex chequer. It was his duty as well as his anxiety to do all that he .could in support of his own budget.. But was lie (Mr. Maguire) to be told that he sued in, forced pauperis when he resisted the imposition of an income tax on Ire land ? Did Sir It. Peel sue in forma pauperis iu 1842 ? Did the noble lord himself sue in fornui pauperis when he declared that Ireland was not fit to bear an income tax ? There was nothing inconsistent on the part of hon. mem bers on his side of the house supporting the motion of the lion. and gallant member for Portalington (Colonel Dunne)—it was not factious. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had alluded to spirits. Ho believed that the people of Ireland were as remarkable as the people of England for temperance, but, let that be as it might, they did not oppose the additional duty on spirits from any selfish considerations. The distillers of Ireland did not in their resolutions condemn the increase in duty of SO. a gallon, but they condemned the arbitrary restrictions which were imposed upon the trade, and they asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer not to carry out the imp os i ng l ai i i sz ottn, e lds i gi : d t itee i . s rr e ee n ilL o to f hoakti an additional duty of &l. gallon, consit,iiere(blyit la expose (ia t t h y em te to an burdlen, He Ministerial in 18 , 12 Sir llobneaat p all these things, Peel would not ta a x i t c e o la n l i ll e h ri e ng re t a i rly t the prelciers.letnAt.Lf j, after the I.:r proposition of the Government on this oecasinn was not only unjust, but altogether without hon. member who last m ot e i d rel i a n n t d er w es h t, o s : to k b e i: vino' sympathy which the gratifying expressed with that thedee ppleyeilnej could not help rising to expresa. gtculturists of England, bil g e° t wn menac ym ed Pa wi til t y h f7ui with injury. Look at the position of Irela,ad ; as ono risen ~~ '~ ; r: yliyi Tit E SUN 5 LONDON, TUESDAY EVENINGr, MAY 24, from the grave she was reeling with weakness;' her sere clothes scarcely shaken off. At such a moment, he we ask, ought not the Government to give her strength repair her energies ? Yet, instead of thin, here was the Chancellor of the Exchequer diluting her, bleedinr , her, purging her--(great laughter)—and when she asked ' for bread, giving her. a stone. Unhappy Ireland, barely re covering from olio plague—the plague of famine—was now to be subjected to another plague, the plague of locusts. (Laughter.) After a few words from Mr. O'CONNELL, The house divided, when the numbers were : For going into committee Against it Majority 133 On re-entering the gallery, we found Mr. BLA.CKETT addressing the house. He suggested as a means of removing some of the imperfections of the income tax as it stood at present, that the discretionary power now lodged in the hands of the commissioners in respect to deductions to be made for bad debts, and wear and tear of machinery should be as far as possible limited by the establishment of some definite rule, which might bo embodied in a clause of the bill. As matters stood at present, different sets of commissioners adopted different practices in respect to these subjects. He also observed that in disputed cases some general court of appeal, which should exercise general jurisdiction over the whole of the kingdom, be beyond suspicion, and which should command authority by the regularity of the principles actuating its decisions, was greatly wanted. Such a tribunal might be composed partly of commercial persons and accountants, and partly of lawyers. He understood the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in introducing his financial scheme, to say that it was most inexpedient to trench on the wages of labour ; but if so. he (Mr. Blackett) knew not how the Chancellor of the Exchequer could fail to exempt from the operation of the income tax that class of operatives whose wages might be taken on the average at two guineas a week. At any rate, he conceived that that part of the scheme would either fail from the impossibility of collect ing the tax, or that it would create such an amount of dissatisfaction as to cause its breakdown. If the right hon. gentleman was able to remove these objeCtions, he would do a great deal to make this tax, as it was his con fessed object to do, an available resource in times of emer gency and war. The house then resolved itself into committee on the bill. Upon clause 1, Lord C. HAMILTON moved the omission of the words " United Kingdom " for the purpose of substituting " Great Britain." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the amendment raised again the question which they had been discussing all night, and inquired whether the noble lord seriously meant to renew that debate ? Lord C. HAMILTON said, the right hon. the Chan cellor of the Exchequer had not answered the question he had put to him in the previous part of the evening— namely, how it was, if Sir R. Peel was right in 1845 in stating that Ireland was not fit to have the income tax imposed on it, that Ireland was now in a position to bear that tax ? The right hon. gentleman had referred to the arrangement of 1815, and to the report which had been ' made to the house, but he had not quoted these words : " Whereas the taxation of Ireland has increased of late years greatly out of proportion to that of England." (Hear, hear.) Was it for Irish purposes that increase of taxa tion had taken place? Was it not that the Irish debt was increased for British purposes—that the Irish debt had been augmented fourfold, while the English debt in the same period had been only doubled ? He acknow ledged that Ireland had benefitted by the arrangement of 1815, but as to the taxation imposed on her, the hon. mem for the West Riding, a great historical authority, had told the country that the war which caused these enormous debts was carried on for the purposes of the aggressive policy of England—(hear ' hear), and it was not the bellicose spirit of Ireland which had caused the increase of her debt. (" Divide !") The spirit of the Act of Union, whatever the right hon. gentleman might say of the 7th article, was against his proposition. In 1822 Lord Lansdowne, adverting to the financial condition of Ireland, said it was a specimen of the endeavours which had been made to place more taxation on that country than she could bear. The right hon. gentleman had not gone into the question of the condition of Ireland at all — he had resorted to the old story of the consolidated annui ties. The right hon. gentleman, after the decision of the other House of Parliament, could never have expected to get the whole amount of these annuities ; brit granting the whole amount to be remitted, and that 250,0001. was saved to Ireland, how could he show that Ireland was benefited by the remission of that sum and the imposition of 650,0001. in place of it. (" Divide !") Let him tell the house his reasons for coming to that conclusion. If Ireland was to have a permanent system of taxation, as the hon. member for the West Riding hoped it would be, under the guise of temporary taxation, they were entitled to ask for some proof that she was able to bear it. (" Divide !" The right hon. gentleman had brought forward a new scheme—not of taxation, but affecting the relations be tween the two countries. The total amount of exclusive remission for England, after deducting the increase of taxation, was 1,200,0001. The total amount of remission. for Ireland was 250,0001., and that was met by a new in come tax and spirit duty. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it ap peared to him that his noble friend had taken a very un usual course. (Hear.) The whole evening, till nearly 11 o'clock, had been occupied in discussing the propriety of laying the income tax on Ireland. The noble lord addressed the house at considerable length, and it was his (the Chancellor of the Exchequer's) duty to make a large demand upon the patience of the house in the course of the debate. In doing so, he made the best answer in his power to the noble lord, but the noble lord now said his answer was a bad one, and made another motion to see whether or not he would make a better. (Hear, hear.) He had no doubt it was true what his noble friend. said, and he had brought forward many demonstrative arguments to prove that he had entirely failed in his reply to satisfy him ; but the house saw the total failure of his arguments, and the noble lord had the whole advantage of it iu the division. (Laughter.) The question before them really was, whether they were to start again at the same point at which they had commenced in the beginning of the evening. (Hear.) Now, without wishing to be disi%spectful to his noble friend, he must say that he thought it would be hardly re spectful to the house if he were to start again precisely at the same point, and detain them with a discussion to which the house was evidently not disposed to listen. (Hear.) If his noble friend wished to raise the question again in a formal debate he would be prepared to meet him with such reasons as he was able to give ; but he would allow him to say that the question before them was not whether Sir R. Peel was right in 1845 or not—(hear)—the question was not what was right in 1845, but what was right in 1853. ' (Hear, hear.) If they went back to 1815, they might also go back to 1842, to the sime of Lord Sydenham, and so on, till they reached the time of Mr. Pitt ; but lie did not think that sort of retrogressive motion was likely to be serviceable in the settlement of this question. (Hear, hear.) Colonel DUNNE supported the proposition of the noble lord, and contended that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had given no answer whatever to the arguments which had been brought forward against the imposition of this tax on Ireland. After a few words from Mr. M. O'CONNELL, Mr.. ALCOCK pointed out the heavy burdens to which England was exposed, and from the pressure of which Ire land was altogether free, and thanked the Government for the act of justice they had performed in extending the income tax to that country. (Hear, hear.) Mr. VANCE said it should be borne in mind that there was a considerable amount of revenue derived from Ireland that was not collected there. From the discouragements given to Irish commerce in successive reigns, the amount of revenue from the customs was not neary so great as it ought to be. If an account were gone into they might fairly add 1,000,0001. to the Customs' revenue of Ireland which was now paid in Loudon, Liverpool, and other places. (Hear, hear.) He wished to state, also, that by the Articles of Union they were explicitly precluded from imposing direct taxation on Ireland. (Hear.) Then, as to the relief given by the remission of the consolidated an nuities, he represented a city (Dublin) which had now no consolidated annuities to pay ; and he asked with what justice that city could have the income tax imposed upon it because other places were to be relieved from the pay ment of the consolidated annuities? (Hear, hear.) Lord C. HAMILTON said he would not give the com mittee the trouble of dividing, and Mr. FREWEN then moved an amendment, the object of which was to limit the duration of the tax to two years. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the amendment, because, if adopted, it would defeat the two objects which the Government hail in view, the first of which was to give stability to our system of finance ; the second, to reduce the income tax by progressive descent to a point at which Parliament would have it in their power' to part with it, if it should think fit to do so. The committee divided, and the numbers were— For the amendment 82 ... Against it ... - 223 Majority —l4l Upon clause 2, regulating the duties payable in respect of subjects described in the schedules, Dr. MICIIELL rose to move in clause 2, lino 11, to leave out the word "property," and insert "profits ;" and in line 13, to leave out "value," and insert "receipts." He wanted the bill to be in accordance with its title. Pro- perty that did not yield profits ought not to be taxed. Eight years since he had bought two manors, from which he had since not received one sixpence, and it was a com plete confiscation of the property of individuals to make them pay upon property from which they were receiving no profits. Without wishing to divide the house, he should be satisfied if he succeeded in calling the attention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to this point. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that if this question were to be considered as a mere change in the phraseology . of the Income Tax Bill, for the purpose of giving'it a greater clearness, he should think it was undoubtedly wise and safe to adhere to the established phraseology which had become intelligible, which had acquired a fixed and known construction, and under which the tax was actually levied. If, however, he un derstood the lion. gentleman aright, he had in vie w a sub stantial object 2 he wished to change the form of 'the tax by providing that in all cases under schedule A deductions of every kind should be allowed to persons. who were liable to pay under that head. He was sorry to say he could not meet the views of the hon. gentleman. The House had already decided upon a proposal less wide than that of the hon. gentleman,—he meant the resolution of the hon. member for Berkshire (Mr. Palmer), which by no means went the length of the motion submitted by the hon. gentleman. Such a proposal would aggravate the inquisitorial character of the tax, and would add to what ever was offensive in its character to a dea ' ree greater in fact than it would give relief by the mere diminution of its burden, while it would cripple the tax by diminishing that burden, and would, moreover, open up a question already decided by the house. Mr. SPOONER had understood the hon. member for Bothnia (Dr. Michell) to press for the levy of the tax upon the not annual value instead of the gross annual value upon which owners of property were called on to pay. In clause 30 this provision was made in the case of all persons who hold chapter and ecclesiastical property. (The Chancellor of the Exchequer—" That has always been so.") Yes, but why should one set of property-holders be allowed to de duct all their repairs and not another? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the clause alluded to certainly related to repairs, but they were of au entirely different character from those made by other holders of property, and they bore no analogy whatever to such repairs. After a few words from Dr. MICHELL, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it would be better to adhere to existing forms than to at tempt to make modifications in the existing enactment which would break up the schedules. Mr. WALPOLE said, that upon introducing his budget the right hon. gentleman said that the object was to keep this tax as a weapon of emergency, but now, upon every occasion when a modification was proposed to make the tax more just, that modification was refused. If the tax were equitably adjusted the public might consent to its renewal hereafter, but if the Government refused all the modifications proposed, those who were interested in land and trade would alike .oppose its renewal in 1860. The consequence he feared would be, that when the emergency hinted at by the right hon. gentleman arose, and it became necessary for the Government to ask for the income-tax again, they would be totally linable to obtain it at the moment when they most. needed it. If the house saw its way clearly to any modification of the injustice of the tax, it ought to be placed upon such a footing that it would be accepted now and renewed hereafter, if required. He would move that the word " net" be inserted in clause 2, line 13. before the words " annual value." The CHANCELLOR of tho EXCHEQUER said, that the principle uPOn which the Government had proceeded h d been to introduce mitigations wherever they could be adopted without breaking up the framework of the tax. Mr. SPOON ER recommended the hon. member for Bodmin to withdraw his amendment in favour of that pro posed by the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Walpole). Dr. MICHELL consented to withdraw his amendment. Mr. KNOX moved that the chairman report progress. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion. It was important that the house should make speedy progress with the bill. Sir D. NORREYS said it was not fair to impose a new tax upon Ireland without giving time to the Irish mem bers to examine the bill. He had only just seen it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that the bill had been printed and in the ban& of members more than a week. The words used in the clause would have no effect in levying the tax upon Ireland ; the mode of doing so was provided by special clauses. Lord J. RUSSELL hoped the hon. member for Dun gannon would not persist in his motion to report progress. (Hear, hear.) - Mr. KNOX said he would withdraw it if the noble lord would promise to stop at the end of the schedules. (Loud cries of " No, no.") The motion was then withdrawn, and the committee divided upon Mr. Walpole's amendment, — For the amendment 72 Against it 164 Majority against it 92 The amendment was consequently lost. Colonel DUNNE suggested that a column should be inserted in the schedules with a view to obtaining a dis tinct return of Irish property, in the same way that a return of foreign property was now obtained. The clause, with some verbal amendments, was then agreed to, and the Chairman reported progress. The report of the Committee of Supply was brought up and agreed to. Mr. CARDWELL in reply to Mr. BLACHETT, said that he could not fix any day for proceeding with the commit tee ou the Merchant Shipping Bill until the house had cows to a dseision on the financial propositions of the Go- HACKNEY CARRIAGES BILL. The order of the day fo; the consideration of the Hack ney Carriages (Metropolis) Bill, as amended, was then road. Lord A. VANE said, he saw no economy in the bill, and could not understand what there was in it which should make the public so anxious for this " wonderful Cab Bill." He should move, upon the next stage, that the half miles be charged at a proportionate mileage rate, and that the rate for waiting be assessed as at present. Mr. W. J. FOX suggested that some right of entrance to railway stations should be provided for cabs, and that these stations should be put upon the same footing as the other cab ranks. Mr. J. M`GREGOR would be very glad to consent to this, if the Government would repay the railway compa nies the money they had expended upon their stations. Sir J. V. SHELLEY understood that the fee at present paid by cabs on entering the stations was principally for water, and that whatever there was over and above went to form an annuity-fund for the cab-drivers themselves. The bill was then considered, and ordered to be read third time on Monday next. REGISTRATION OF ASSURANCES BILL. Lord J. RUSSELL postponed the second reading of this bill till Friday next, with the view of then ref erring it to a select committee. SUCCESSION BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER having in troduced this bill, and fixed its second reading for Monday next, stated that he was desirous of removing some mis apprehension which he feared might exist with regard to it, relating to a matter, indeed, of only secondary import ance, so far as the principle of the measure was concerned, But still of considerable interest. He had stated, that in the case of a person succeeding to an encumbered estate, he would be charged with the succession duty upon the residue of the net income that would come to him after all deductions had been allowed, and after his encumbrances had been allowed ; but that, if he sold it, he would have to pay upon the whole amount of capital after he had li quidated his encumbrances out of the estate. In reference to this latter portion of the statement, he wished to say that it appeared to the Government to be better to aban don that altogether; and, consequently, any person having once paid his tax upon the net income of which he was in enjoyment would be discharged from all liability in respect of it, whether he sold his estate or not. The other orders were then disposed of, and the house adjourned, at half-past 1, till Thursday next. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MAY 23. (Front the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons. ) INCOME TAX BILL. Order for committee read ; motion made, and question proposed, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair." Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the question, in order to add the words " it is expedient, before additional taxation be extended to Ire land, that a select committee be appointed to inquire into and consider the fiscal and political relations and relative taxation of Great Britain and Ireland, and to report whether the latter kingdom does not bear her fair share of Imperial taxation," instead thereof. Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the ques tion." The house divided—ayes, 194 ; noes, 61. MAJORITY—AYES, 194. Adair, Hugh R. Geach, Charles Moody, C. A. Aglionby. H. A. Gibson, Thomas M. Morris, 1). Alcock, Thcinfts Gladstone, William Muntly,'lV, Anderson, Sir James Gladstone, Captain Murrough, J. P. Baines, M. T. Glyn, George Carr Norreys, Lord Barnes, T. Goddard, A. L. Norreye. Sir D. J. Barrow, Wm. H. Goderich, Viscount O'Connell, Maurice ' Bass, M. T. Goodman, Sir George Oliveira, B. Beaumoht, W. B. Grace, 0. Os borne, Ralph lit nbow, John Graham, Sir J. Otway, Arthur John Berkeley, Adm. Oren fell, C. Owen, Sir John Berkeley, Grenville Grey, Sir G. Pa. et, Lord Alfred Ilethell, Richard Grosvenor, Lord R. Palmer, R. Biggs, William Gwyn, Howe! Palmerston, Viscount Blackett, J. F. Hadfield, George Peel Frederick Boldero. Colonel Hall, sir Benjamin Pellatt Apsley Bonham-Carter, John Basile, Alexander Pennant, Col. Bouverie, E. Headlam, T. E. Phillipps, J. H. Boyle, Col. Heneage, G. 11. W. I hillimore, R. Brocklehurst, John Herbert, B. A. Phinu, T. isrockmitn, E. D. Herbert, Sidney Pigott, F. Biotherton, Joseph Hervey, Lord Alfred Pilk ington, J. Brown, Humphrey Heyw o od, James Price, W. P. Brown, William Heyw orth, L. Pritchard, J. Browne, V. Hildyard, Robert C. Bolt, P. Bruce, Lord E. Hindley, Charles Russell, Lord J. Bruce, 11. A. Hogg, sir James W. Russell, F. C. Butler, Charles Howard, W. G. Russell. F. W. Cardwell, Hon. E. Hudson, George Sadleir, J. Chambers, M. liu2 hes, W. B. Sand,rs, G. chambe, s, T. Hutchins, E. Sawle, C. B. G. Charteris, F. Hutt, William Scobell, Capt. Cheetham, John Ingnain, Robert Scully, Francis Child, Smith Jackson, William Seymour, W. D. Cholmondeley,. Ld. II Jermyn, Earl Smith, Wm. M. Clay, Sir W.: Johnstone, James Smollett, A Cobden, Richard Keating, H. S. Sotheron, T. 11. S. Cockburn, Sir Alex. Kendall, Nicholas Spooner, R. Cocks, Thomas S. Keogh, William Stafford, A. Collier, Robert P. Kershaw, James Stephenson, Robert Colville, C. R. Kirk, William Strutt, Edward Cowper, W. Knatchbull, Win. F. Talbot, C. R. M. Crauford, E. 11. J. Labotichere, 11. Thiekttesse, R. A. Crossley, F. Lacon, Sir E. Th ornely , T. Davie, Sir H. _Laing, S. Tollemache, John Denison, J. E. lanzton, 11. G. Turnell H. Bering, Sir E. Laslett, W. Turner, C. Duke, Sir James Lee, IY, Tyler, Sir G. Duncan, George "'lam)", Col, Villiers, ltt Um C. Dunlop, A. Lockhart, A. E. Vivian, J. 11. East, sir J. Losre, R. Waddington, 11. S. Egert it, W. 'Mackie, John WAmsley, Sir J. Egerton, E. 31 Acgregor, James Whir bread,. Samuel Elliot, J. E. M'Cregor, John Wickham, 11. W. Evelyn, W. J. Mangles, R. D. Wilkinson, W. A. Ewart, William Marjoribaiiks, D. Wilcox, B. Fergus, John Martin, John Wilmington, Sir T. B Ferguson, Colonel Masterman, John Wise, A. Ferguson, Joseph Matheson, A. Wood, Sir C. Firmer, Sir Edmund Matheson, Sir J. Woodil, 13 • Fitzroy, lion. 11. 111 tall, Edward IVyndliant ' W. Foley, J. H. 3111110 n, Robe rt Y oung , Sir John Forster, Charles Mills, T. Forster, J. NI olesworth, si x W . VILL1111• Fox, It. AI Moneriett, .1. llrryler, Hon. W. Fox, W. J. Monsell, W. litilsrave, Earl MINORITY —NOES, 61. Annesley, Earl of Fitz.teralJ, j. lklaguiro, T. F. Bogey, C. For:ter, Sir (leo. Manners, Lord J. Ball, Edward Fre Bl,ll eld, J. W. Meagher, Thoi.as Bland, L. Frewen, C. IL Michell, W. Bookur, Thos. Win. Ceorge, John Montan, C. B. lir4dy, John Greene. J. Naas, Lord Brooke, Sir A. Hamilton. Ford C. Newark, Viscount Sunbury, W. Ilamiltou, G. A. O'Brien, C. Burrell, Sir C. M. nonillion, J. Hans rakington, Sir John Cairns, 11. MiCalmont lla.Ms. Sir E. Potter, It. Caynac, Sir J. It. Heard, J. Power, N. Christopher, It. Adam Ilenchy, D. O'Connor Slice, William Cobbett, JM. Hume, W. F. Sourer-et, Captain Collolly, T. Jones, Captain Swit t, It Coote, Sir C. II Keating, lt. Taylor, Col. Corhally, NI. E. Ker, I). S. Vance, J. • I , avison, B. King, James King York, E. T. Elniley, Vise. Lidlell, 11. G. Esnionde, J. Lucas, F. TELLERO. Fagan, W. Macartney, O. Farnham, E. Basil M'Malion, P. Dunne, Col. Ft:Howes, Edward Mogan, W. 11. Frcucli, F. THE PUBLICATION OF " T TIE SUN" COMMENCES EVERY AFTERNOON AT THREE O'CLOCK, AND THE LATE OR THIRD EDITION, CONTAINING THE DEBATES IN PARLIAMENT THE SAME EVENING, With all other News arriving up to the hour of Post, AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. EXPRESS EDITIONS will be forwarded after the Post is closed by the Latest Trains. THE CLIPPER-SHIP MARCO POLO. Messrs. Baines and Co., the owners of this fine ship, have received from her captain the following gratifying letter, detailing the condition of the passengers, and the progress the vessel had made up to the date of writing : " On board the Marco Polo, April 8, 1853, Lat. 1.30 N., long. 20A W. • " Dear Sir,—We have got so far on towards our des tination. We have had nothing but calms and adverse winds since we left Liverpool. I was four days in Channel ; and from 5 N. to 2 N. I have had six days nothing but calms and light airs from southward. All our passengers are well, and in high spirits. We have boarded several vessels from London with passengers ; but my passengers say they would rather be on board the Marco Polo than any of them. My passage will be made when I get south of the line, which I expect Rill be to-morrow,* when I will get wind, which I have not had north of the line. We have had one death, a child seven months old, and one birth which makesl , our number good. I have got about thirty of the expertest thieves on board from London, and, what is worse, - two or three of them in the first cabin. I will only add I have not had one word of complaint against the ship, provisions, master, or officers, which is a great thing to say ; and they are all going to write home to their friends to come out in your new ship. Last voyage we had 20 deaths before those number of days out ; but then we were under Government orders. The jib made j by Messrs. Dixon and Co. is the finest cut sail and standing one I ever saw. " J. Baines, Esq. " JAMES FORBES." * The Marco Polo, on her previous voyage, sailed c.n the 4th of July, and crossed the line on the 4th of August, tieing 30 days. On the present voyage ihe would cross the line in 26 days. 0 ,, 4.4 ! ) 0:: 1853. BRIGHTON SELTZER„ WATER, 4s. a dozen. Mr. lIO9PER it s REDUCED his PRICE for Brighton Seltzer and Fachingen front Cs. to 4a. tier dozen. Also other ;crated waters in proportion, and which are unsurpas,•ed, if not unequalled. Six-dozen hampers carriage tree. Balls and fles supplied in such quantities only as may be required. Delivery twice daily. A pro spectus with list of prices can be hal on apolic , tien.-1100PER, 7, rail-mall East; and 55, :lrosvely,r-street, ho .d-street. iv AND-IN-HAND INSURANCE OFFICE : .No. 1, New Bridge-street, I:laeklriars, London. Established in 1696. DIRECTORS. The Hon. 'William Ashley. The Hon. Sir Edward Cust. Arthur Eden, Esq. J. Lettsom elliot, Esq. James Esdaile, llaryle 11. Farquhar, Esq. John Gurney Hoare, Esq. E. Fuller Maitland, Esq. William Scott, Esq. - John Sperling, Esq. Henry Wilion, Esq. W. Esdaile Winter, Esq. LIFE DEPARTMENT. This Of offers a low scale of premiums to Non-members, with out particip ttion in profits; or a Mamber's scale of premiums, an annual participation in the whole of tie profits after five fu] annul payments. In the gears 1849, 1850, 1851, 1852, and 1853, the premiums of a Meincers' Policies were abated 52k per cent.; that is to say, a }xi mitnn of 1001. wa3 reduced to 471. 10s. Insurances effected before the 24th June next will participate or,e year earlier than if effected af►er that date. FIRE DEPARTMENT. Insurances are effected on every description of property at the usaal rates. RICHARD RAY, Secretary. THEARTE ROYAL, IIAYDIAIMET, Under the management of Mr. Buckstone. THIS EVENING, MAY 24, Will be produced (9th time) THE MOUSETRAP. Characters by Messrs. Tilbury, Chippendale, Rojer, , , Buckstone. W. larren, and Edwards ; Mrs. Poynter. M.sses A. Would!, Louisa Howard, Mts. litzwilliam, and Mrs. Stanley. After which, MIL BUCKSTONE'S ASCENT OF MOUNT PAR. VASKIN. To be followed by OUR MARY ANNE. To conclude with POPPING fIIE QUESTION. ROYAL PRINCESS'S TIIEATRE, OXFORD-STREET. Under the Management of Mr. Charles Kean. THIS EVENING, MAY 21, Will be performed THE CORSICAN BROTHERS. Principal character by'Mr. C. Kean. To be followed by THE PILOT. Characters by Messrs. T. P. Cooke, Wright, W. Lacy, Ryder, Graham, Everett, F. Cooke, and Saker ; ➢lrs. W. Lacy, Mrs. Daly, Misses Vivasti and Desborough. ROYAL LYCEUM THEATRE. Under the Management of Madame Veatria. THIS EVENING, MAY 24, Will ba performed A HOUSE OUT OF WINDOWS. After which, A FAST TRAIN—MGII PRESSURE EXPRESS. Characters by Messrs. C. Mathews. Baker, and SJter. To be followed by THE LAWYER.. Characters by Messrs. C. Mathews, F. Matthews, and Roxby ; Mrs. F. Matthews, and Anises Robertson and Ellis. After which, A DIVERTBSEMENT. To conclude with TRYING IT ON. Principal character by Mr. C. Mathews. THEATRE ROYAL ADELPHI. Proprietor. Mr. B. Webster. —Directress, Madame Celeste. THIS EVENING, MAT 24, Will be performed THE MERRY WIVES OF WINDSOR. Cha racters by Messrs. B. Webster, Keeley, Leigh Murray, Parselle, G. Honey, A. Wigan, Paul Bedford. R. Romer, Cult , nford, and 11. Bed. ford ; Madame Celeste, Mrs. Keeley, Miss Mary Keeley and Miss Woolgar. After which, A DESPERATE GAME,. To conclude with GOING TO THE DERBY. Characters by Messrs. G. Honey, P. Bedford, and Rogers; Misses F. Maskell and E. Harding, and Mrs. Laws. ROYAL OLYMPIC: THEATRE. Lessee and Manager_ Mr. Farren. THIS EVENING, Max 24, Will be performed THE MILLER OF DERWENT WATER. Characters by M essrs. H. Farren, Shalders, G. Cooke, Clifton, and F. Charles ; Mesdames E. Turner and Anderton. To be lOBowed by TUE WANDFBING MINSTREL. Jem Bags, Mr. F. Robson. To conclude with MACBETH. Supported by Mr. Samuel Mac. beth, Mr. F. Robson, Mrs. Sarah Macbeth, and Mrs. A. Phillips. ASTLEY'S ROYAL AMPHITHEATRE. Sole Lessee and Manager. Mr. W. Cooke. Immense success of the Holiday Novelties. Second Week of the EQUESTRIAN GALA. THIS EVENING, MAT 24, And during the week, the Entertainments will commence with the highly successful Hippo Emma, with new scenery, costumes, and appointments, entitled THE CHASE, E.r LIFE ON THE TURF— in which will be represented a FOX CHASE, with REAL FOX and HOUNDS. illustrative of the daring and celebrated Aylesbury Leap of the Horse over a Dining Table—the Race —Steeplechase, &c., &c. To be followed by an unprecedented display of Equestrian and Gymnastic Achievements in the ARENA, introducing Mr. Cooke's h ghly-trained Horses and Ponies—supported by the eminent Artistes of the Establishment ; and the Premier Horseman, Mr. Alfred Cooke, and his talented Family in the new classical and beautiful Act entitled THE KING OF THE AIR, or SHINING HERALD OF AURORA, which bag been nightly received with perfect enthusiasm. Box-ortice open daily from Eleven to Four. Stage Manager, Mr. W. West. ROYAL SURREY ZOOLOGICAL GARDENS. Open for the Season. The Zoo'ogical Collection contains a variety of interesting speci mens, and the Gardens throughout have been improved and beautified. The Pictorial Representation is an extensive VIEW of the BAY and FORTS of CHIJA.A.N, painted by Messrs. Dawson, and at dusk is represented the attack of the Chinese fire-rafts on the Br tish fleet, explosion-ships, &c.—Grand Vocal and Instrumental I oncert. Ergagement of the eminent vocalist, Miss Cicely Nott. Conductor, Mr. Godfrey.— An extra Military Band during the day time ; and at dusk a grand display of Fireworks, combined with the Feast of Lanterns and other displays.—Doors open frog► 9 In the morning. Admission, Is. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. Tim DAT —Morning 27 min. after 2 Evening 51 min.aft. 2 To-Voßaow—Morning 15 min. after 3 I Evening 36 min.aft. 3 THE WEATIIER.-SUN OFFICE, MAY 24. THERMOMETER, IN TILE SHADE. 68 —highest since noon yesterday. 51—lowest this morning and during the night. 67 this day at noon. BAROIIETER, 30.5. LONDON, TUESDAY, MAY 24, 1853. It so happens that a complication of fortuitous events at this moment command attention, simul taneously to the peril now being encountered by the two most remarkable of the Asiatic Potentates, the SULTAN and the EMPEROR of the CHINESE. Recently we have taken occasion to comment at some length upon the situation of affairs in Turkey, and in doing so we have augured well, not with out reason, for the wise and resolute statesman ship of the young and chivalric AED-UL-MEDJID. Our anticipations in his regard have, we rejoice to think, been already, and to the full, realised. The insolent diplomacy of the AUTOCRAT has been summarily worsted at Constantinople. The ar rogant bearing of Prince MENSCHIKOFF has pro voked a fitting retaliation. RESCUID PACHA, the most illustrious of the living administrators among the Osmanlis, has been suddenly recalled to supreme authority, being again placed by his august master, and this time unconditionally, at the head of the Turkish Government. In conse quence of which extraordinary step on the part of the SULTAN, the Divan has been at once extri cated from its anomalous position, the designs of the CZAR have been once more effectually frus trated, the 'ultimatum has been deprived of its poisonous sting, and another opportunity has been afforded to the Sublime Porte to cultivate anew those amicable relations with the Courts of the West, upon the maintenance of which is unques tionably dependent the existence of Turkey among the principal Powers of the European Continent. Not such, however, have been the fortunes be falling his other Oriental Majesty, the Emperor of the CHINESE. He has, unhappily for himself, found among his Councillors no sagacious and re solute Counterpart of RESCHID PACHA. His situation, indeed, from first to last, has been altogether different. Instead of having to con tend with a powerful and aggressive neighbour, he has had to struggle against the encroachments of an enormous army of well-organised and infu riated insurgents. Instead of having to foil the diplomatic adroitness of a haughty and astute Ambassador, he has had to battle in open warfare with a fierce and gigantic rebellion. The particu lars of this rebellion, recently received, are found to be quite of a piece with the prior history of the race now agitated by the throes of a Revolution a race perhaps as wonderful, and certainly, with a single exception, as mysterious as any other on the surface of the globe — a race d at i ng back its origin to a primaeval antiquity, and flourishing during many past centuries in a state of self-concentrated, and, in many respects, re fined civilisation. It was only a few years since that the barriers of custom which had previously precluded other nations from penetrating beyond the. boundaries of China, were broken down by broadsides from British men-of war. Hitherto, up to that memorable period, the rest of the world had never been able to collect anything like authentic information in reference to the habits, the social condition, or the political organisation prevailing among the masses of the Chinese multitude. Surmises, and not facts, con stituted the bulk of our knowledge in regard to the state of things among that vast and cultivated population. Surmises, founded upon the revela tions of travelling adventurers, and upon the hints of Jesuit missionaries. Since the settlement of the famous Opium-difficulty, however—thanks to Sir HENRY POTTINGER, and to those who were asso ciated with him in carrying on, in company with a group of Mandarins, the labours of that curious and complicated negotiation—the internal condi tion of China has been laid tolerably bare to the gaze of the " barbarians." During the interval we have had a Chinese family domesticated on the borders of Hyde-park —we have had a Chinese Junk moored off the Temple-stairs up the river Thames—we have had a Chinese Museum to be examined for a shilling, and a Feast of Lanterns in Piccadilly. Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum has no longer remained the cry of a giant cannibal in a nursery story, but has grown familiar to gn g lish ears as the title of a hero described by a Chinese romancer. The pig-faced lady has been eclipsed by the pig -footed maidens, imported from the land of tea. The fragrant herb has been vended over sordid counters in Whitechapel and Horsleydown by worshippers of the Holy Ape, believers in BHUDDA, and disciples of CONFUCIUS. Men with shaven scalps and pig tails have rubbed elbows with her MAJESTY'S lieges in the Strand and Cheapside. The marvels of the willow-pat terned plate have been degraded into the homeliest realities. In our conduct towards China, instead of implicitly following the course suggested by. the epigrammatic phrase of CIESAIt, we went we conquered, and we saw. A similar destiny appears at this crisis to be awaiting the Japanese. The secrets of Japan are about to be at last disclosed to the eyes of the world through the instrumentality of the naval armaments sent into the Eastern seas for that purpose by the United States' Government. Howbeit, the present juncture appears to threaten China with something more than additional revelations. A rebellion, which has now lasted upwards of two years consecutively, seems at this moment to be breaking down the whole framework of the Chinese Constitution. Fully one-half of China has already fallen into the hands of the victorious in surgents. Excepting a narrow strip of sea-board, the whole surface of the country south of the great river the Yang-tse-Kiang has yielded to the tri umphant progress of the revolutionists. Ac cording to the last accounts, fears were rife at Canton that Nankin had fallen before the resolute assaults of the rebels by whom it was known to be besieged. Advancing from the marshy province of Kwangsee, within the frontiers of which the rebel soldiers had for nearly twenty months restricted their marauding enterprises, the foes of the EMPEROR and of the other constituted authorities have rapidly ad vanced against their antagonists until obstructed, as we have already remarked, by the waters of the Yang-tse-Kiang. Everywhere as yet the Imperial troops have been routed with a terrible slaughter. SEU, the Commander-in-Chief of the main body of the EMPEROR'S army, was ignominiously defeated, for example, before the walls of Yo-Tchow, a city of considerable dimensions, situated on the borders of the lake Tung-ting-Hou. After the capture of Yo-Tchow, and the seizure of Han-yang, another city one hundred and fifty miles further down the Yang-tse-Kiang, the rebels seem to have hastily pressed for ward to the capital of the province Hoopah, the great city of Woochung. Here, again, their success appears to have been as usual extraordinary. Woochung was taken, and that too with a massacre so terri ble, that some time afterwards the intolerable stench from the dead bodies lying about in the neighbourhood threatened, seemingly, the outbreak of a violent pestilence. Added to the shameful defeat of his forces, the EM PEROR has suffered of late deplorably from the pusillanimity of those who, both from their rank and their profession, ought to have proved his most resolute defenders under such an emer gency. It has proved necessary, in fact, for one of the Generals of his army, and one of the Admirals of his fleet, to be publicly degraded for their cowardice. His Chinese MAJESTY, indeed, seems to have been driven to the old woman's advice tirer le diable par la queue—and is now, of course, enjoying the delectable consequences. He appeals in his despair to the Princes of Christen dom for assistance. Applications have in this manner been addressed to Sir GEORGE BONHAM, her Britannic MAJESTY'S Plenipotentiary. The Viceroy of Soochau has besought aid from the English Consul at Shanghai. And, doubtless, long before this time, further entreaties of a like kind have been transmitted from the Imperial head-quar ters, requesting instant help from barbarian vessels like the Hermes, the Rattler, and the Salamander. Little time will now be required to demonstrate whether the tempts edax rerum, is to swallow up sooner or later the present Chinese Dynasty, or whether the Celestial EMPEROR, Brother of the Moon, and Cousin of the Stars, and Nephew of the Comets, or whatever else he may be, will come at last victoriously out of the horrors of a pro tracted and ferocious Revolution. The Income Tax Bill is making rapid progress through the Committee. Now that the stability of the Government is no longer dependent on a division, Honourable Gentlemen are exhibiting a contemptuous disregard of the rights of the in dustrious classes—of the sufferers under the un fair assessment, which regards precarious and permanent income in the same point of view, and charges the fluctuating wages of intellectual or physical labour as highly as the certain produce of accumulated and realised property. Her MA- , JESTY'S Opposition carefully avoided the trouble even of appearing in their places. Her MAJESTY'S Ministers, and their supporters (with the excep tion of the ontniloquent Chancellor of the Ex chequer, who, as usual, exhibited a forty-magpie power of talking, until his impetuosity was curbed by his more phlegmatic Leader), were as chary of their arguments as their opponents were . of their presence. The excitement of the ap proaching Derby was much greater than that of the debate. There was much greater interest evinced in Lord DERBY'S race-horse winning the racing prize, than in Lord DERBY'S party winning their way back to place and power. A s a preliminary, we suppose, to the Royal birthday there was a fair display of sham battles, which seemed to amuse the junior Members. There was a discussion brought on by the Hon. and Gallant Colonel the Member for Portarling ton, who certainly exerted himself zealously and efficiently on behalf of Ireland. The Hon. Gen tleman, on the House going into Committee on the Income Tax, moved for the appointment of a Select Committee " to inquire into and consider the fiscal relations and relative taxation of Great Britain and Ireland, and to report whether the latter kingdom does not bear her fair share of imperial taxation," contending at the same time that the proposed extension of the Income Tax to Ireland was quite contrary to the Act of Union, which was financially injurious to the sister kingdom, and also that the remission of the Conso lidated Annuities was not au adequate equivalent for the imposition of the income tax. In these views Le was ably supported by several Irish members (more especially by the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Dungarvon—whose speech was a very credit able display) ; but nothing could excite the house from the contemptuous indifference and apathy into which it had fallen, and which it so fre quently exhibits on Irish questions. No argu ment was offered except the will of the majority —who by 194 to 63 negatived the amendment, and fastened the tax firmly ou Ireland—a result mainly attributable to those who, like the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Clonmel (who, by the way, did not show last night), first opposed the amendment for the modification of the tax, and then voted for the exemption of Ireland. Another • b ie attempt was subsequently made by the ~° Lord the Member for Tyrone to exclude Irelo, from the operation of the bill. But it fel l io_ around without a division—a very naturrd re° 11 when we consider that virtually the same que s ,, had been decided a few minutes previouslYl),),. very decisive and overwhelming for our own part, we have always considered t a p vi Ireland should participate in every privil e g e bear her fair proportion of every burdeu---'een there should be no practical distinction beta 4 her children and those of the other porti ° , l l; majority. Isl3l the United Kingdom. We have witnessenic.o sufferings with much regret, and sympathis ed the inhabitants in their deep affliction. iif have also always considered that the Cal a co . under which she groaned was of an imperial, ratter, and that it was equally unjust anu ii o f politic to levy an exclusive tax on any port i° , re , the kingdom for the sums advanced for the S cv , 3 servation of the lives of so many of her I' de subjects in the dark hour of distress and de3 tDe tion, when her fields were depopulated W u ive , combined influence of pestilence and ft' n ' ii ", h c But there was no assignable reason c oif it should not be subjected to a To, and judiciously apportioned Property the which would fall, not on the poverty, lAA - wealth, of the country. It was notoriou s ", o d e . man with 100/. in Irela n d was e ven note is pendent than one with a similar inc °lll p - r of England, inasmuch as th e p urc h a sing efeste the pound sterling is far greater on theL D el , than on the eastern sid e o f St. G eo rges ' fig to Why, then, should he not contribute eclli sv a l of the Imperial Excheque r an d t o th e mainte l r h il- Ice the National Establishment of that ivl ue l i s! trust, will always remain the United X ig g There would be every possible reason for a i hle fication of the system to make parties resP e , ) t he! only for the net ann ua l p ro fit s f or 1v 113 ' 0 4 1 actually receive ra th er th an f or w h a t to receive, but there is none whatsoever f °r 4io total exemption. In place, however, of iii ; o olJ the real struggle on the point where they " have every reasonable prospect of sno ce3s ' vL ro" Irish Members expe n d th e i r s t reng th in ticable contests, wher e th e y on l y rece ive r' l and contempt for their pains. . 1 4 $ 11 ne; On the next and m os t important till that affecting the d ura ti on o f th e ts l ' fef greater indifference was displayed. Afte r l o ohl brief sentences, in proposing that the 1 0 le only be granted for two in place of seven ITO and as brief an oppositi on —th e amendiDe n ; d i rejected by a majority of 141, and the Pe i r: pri p now saddled with the t ax , f or th e pro long n u t v e - r ni , with scarcely a hope of re li e f d ur i n g the :Btlo Another effort was sub sequen tl y ma d e to bs' ;, is tax under schedule A levied on " Pr °l3 le tei place of receipts, whi c h was su b sequen tly "`' l et to " net " receipts. The motion, howev er ' with a similar fate to th ose b y w hi c h it lisu t or preceded, the only circumstance that gave es° porary animation to the s cene beingthevo o e of an Honourable Ge n tl eman — a would - b e rl e ;tlr to Mr. PAUL BEDFOR D — w h o (th e H o n. u man, not Mr. PAUL BEDFORD) " vino eiboqt%o vetus," attempted to enliven the prevailing c lw fi o; by chanting, with stentorian powers, the °P e :iiso stanzas of the well-known popular baccit i- e lyric " Jolly Nose ;" and this was the ra'the which the Commons House of Parliamen t o f o popular branch of the Legislature —dispos e ' 03 question, on the decision whereof the welfar e o re happiness of the community in general/ especially of the industrious middle classes, greatly dependent. THE QUEEN'S BIRTHDA Y. - ect i°ll This being the Quee n ' s bi r thd ay , th e us ual in°Q of the household troops quartered in London toeV, this morning in the parade in front of the Horse 1 440 The day being extremely fine, a ver y large assen e persons collected to w it ness th e s i g ht. Among t br ir tinguished persons pr esen t were th e D u k e of CO irf the Commander-in-Chief, Viscount Hardinge, a n , count Combermere, the Marquis of Londonder o o ° Master-General of the Ordnance, Lord Raglan, c. 410 i natal day of her Majesty was also celebrated thratiD fr oP ) the metropolis by the ringing of merry peals of the principal churches, and by the display n'„ eo n standards on the different p u bli c b u ildi ngs, as NIND,i'tV the craft in the riv er . Th e fi r i ng of the Tower afrait" Park guns, and the bright red liveries o f the t rbei men, who on this day divest themselves ci f old and assume their new liveries, also re, ln g ,' be fi Londoners of the r e t urn o f th a t auspicious peri,c ° `;,,pr r all alike are disposed t o ev i nce th e i r loyalty. - 1- ` - s 16 parations for the illu m i na ti ons are on an ex tensive a will , and the principal thoroughfares at the West-ea app" no doubt, this evening pr esen t a very g litteringl ance. All the prin c ip a l M in i s t ers o f St a te w l OO banquets to-night in celebaation of the event. r oil; Queen's birthday there is generally a drawing 0, bet but there will b e none on th e presen t oceasi ° o sl/ 0 Majesty being still at O s b orne , w h ere s h e will sp ed day in comparative privacy. ROYAL ITALIAN OPERA. I A in 1/7 Meyerbeer's Roberto was gi ven h ere l a st nig— pr bee, usual efficient and complete styl e i n w hi c h gel; cf , r, operas are put on the sta ge a t thi s h ou se. . I. ' o . gs'A was the same as last year, Mlle. Julienne confir l3 2,," favourable impressi on w hi c h s h e crea t e d in last year. Tamberlik was Roberto, a part arde c ; thankless at be s t, b u t o f w hi c h h e ma k es m ore th ,f Pe!, other living tenor could. F ormes ' B er t ra m Ws s - 0 0 v sible a more subtle, grand, and masterly imPern than ever. Both in a c ti ng an d s i ng i ng his is b" - g o e ; effective part in the opera. Mdme: Castellan " 0a re vr~ ful and pleasing, as she ever is. She sung the y ap d " Robert toi que j'aime," with an alternate ell e* pathos which excited great applause. ASTLEY'S. r This favouite place of amusement continue: ohs crowded every evening. The Chase ; or, i i i h e a sh ee .; Turf, of which we gave a notice last week, most successful, as it deserves to be, from the l' e 'or . plete manner in which it has been placed on the fo% As we anticipated, the fox chase hounds, is a great hit, and is loudly applaudeio, other equestrian feats, too, are equally seec e r t he l / 5 0 we may fairly pronounce the piece to be one (34 p ventures . which Astley's has made for some tu' i tt ;cti°';' scenes in the circle are full of variety end 11 ; 7 11re e le . fully worthy of the palmiest days of the e staloi s on t i v, with tee Mr. Cooke . is evidently determined to carrYbotVe campaign with a spirit and energy which olus t serve and command attention. WILLIS'S .ROOMS. I MDLLE. DELAMOTTE'S MUSICA L l'lsl°. Tzi IE T N h T tailn‘rnhiesnpromising young pianist gave m ar w ee Madame Doria and Signor Rooms .GardoenPi I C l i O ‘P a ani:ll ti° ; e t°lr the duo from A della with great success. M J : t l y ' re ' P " P 1 also sang Bel Baguio in a brilliant, sparkli n g --- u• - ; Gardonia also sang Verdi's La mitt Letitia, - lj of calculated to display the power and sweetnes 06 1 1 1 voice. Mdlle. Agnes Bury sang several Gerin 3u 0 1 ' 1 4 and Mendelssohn ' s Frullingseid, with great t'''efloso expression. Mlle. Delainotte played an Ad a the 001; Capprieioso, arranged by Mendelsohn for til e w i t h fi t forte, with great brilliancy of execution, an`iftbe evidently genuine and artistical appreciation o p , A tij composer. She also took part with Vie n3j ' e v • o n jiv, ob Piatti in a trio by Beethoven, for pianoforte, violoncello. The applause after this was loud rwithot:g and Mdlle. Delamotte fairly shared the honotirn ;, two great artistes we have mentioned. The j o u to successful in all respects : and we ought to Ml' Mr. Frank Mori was the conductor, efficient a"" pensable as usual. o a f, • ofr-111 TRINITY OESE.—Yesterda being Trinit Y P - 1 10 ,- aspecial ge n eral rt con washe y h e ld a t the TrinitY Aibel4 on Tower-hill, at which his Royal Highness Princ!l'johi was unanimously re-elected master, and Ca 3l 11. the o epherd deputy master of that ancient corp o ra tion the ensuing year. The court then proceeded 'divine parish church of St. Olave, Hart-street, whereepriate service was performed, and an excellent and Cpl ~ sermon preached by the Rev. Henry Melvill, D ille ge TIIE SETTLING DAY.—.The settling day fo r i j O' er bourne Dock and Railway, and the Monarch Gi'' to h e t . pang, is fixed for Thursday. The former s r ;i o rth e h i m L a li r l l w ce .a d y in sb t a b r e es o . official list, and also the Grea t t ooa t Scotland Railway preference shares, and the Por to I n nis Vs' BILLS ON INDIA.—The amount received Wel sury of the East India House for bills on the the 7th to the 28d inst. is 76,516/. AUSTRALIAN fra il t h e A USTRALIA N EMIGRATION .--- The departure toriog r port of London for the Australian colonies a d o siv e ; past week show a decrease, but the vessels, on - 1 jeci tutee age, are of the larger class. They have eeoWortoriaatft;e; to Sydney, with an aggregate burden of 2,C IS xi of .. o f three to Port Philip, with an aggregate bar b - o rdeo 9 , tonnage ; two to Adelaide, with an aggregate,. 5 37 Oh, 888 tonnage . and one to Hobart Tow" , °. co tia• ':- Their total capacity' was, consequently , 4,603e'r-clia0;:i: shipments of manufactures and ordinal,' freight have further diminished, and the rates for • rerill'il continue to decline. , 4 ,,,. the ' - he Je: THE GRESHAM LECTURES.--YeSter..v ~ bir t..- g i. Term course of these lectures conarnenee", Mik livery of a lecture on Astronomy by the Rio the It Pullen, M.A. At the hour for the deliverY fit to h t ., ture in Latin there was not one person Pr es ; odi c° it ; but at the lecture in English there WAS _ l ' o lo o of about 40 persons, one-fourth of 'what we'