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Alderman WOOD, in defending the Bill, said the pro prietors of several seam-boats had expres , ed their entire concurrence in it. Mr. DIXON said hi: friends infcrxned him that it was a mass of absurdity, and would materially affect all se3 boats. When it was brought on, he should move that it he read a second time in six months. On the Ist of August will he a finely engraved PORTR GROBY, and several color THE COURT AI Edited by the Hon. Containing Ori Mrs. Shelley, Author of Frank-j enstein The late T. Sheridan, Esq. Lord Morpeth Mrs. Norton Lord Nugent No. 1., for July, contains Miss Fanny Kemble , C. M‘Farlane, Esq. T. Roscoe, Esq. • Mrs. Norton Mrs. P Blackwood Tyrone Power, Esq. Publi s h e d by Edward BuL dish-square ; Bell and Bradf wing, Dublin. Supplied al,o, Monthly, by pri NEW POEM BY LORD BYRON. T HE NEW MONTHLY MAGAZINE, FOR AUGUST, Edited by E. L. BULWER, Esq. M.P. Author of " Pelham," " Eugene Aram," ftcc. 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The Hon. and G illant Officer then moved for returns, showing the number of rated inhabitants of the parish of St. James's, who bad paid their rates and assessed taxes on or before the 20th July. Mr. BRISCOE said that the position of a portion of the electors under the Reform Bill teas such, that they would not he able to avail themselves of the provisions of the Bill, in consequence of the shortness of time allowed them to pay up their rates and taxes. He hoped his Al jesty's Government would take the subject into their consideration with a view to extend the time.—The mo tion was then agreed to. Mr. STRUTT presented a petition from the town of Derby for the abolition of Negro Slavery. Mr. CHAPMAN presented a petition from a parish in the county of Westmeath, against the Tithe Bill. Lord SANDON presented a petition, signed by 1,700 merchants, &c. of Liverpool, praying that the rights of the West India planters might be preserved when the question of the Abolition of Slavery came under discussion in the House. The petition was ordered to be printed. The Noble Lord moved for a return of the number of vessels, and the aggregate tonnage, di,tinguishing British from foreign, which entered the port of London with cargoes from foreign ports between the sth July 1831 and sth July 1832, showing those which had imported corn. Mr. DIXON presented two petitions from the pro prietors of the Glasgow Railway, and from the inhabitants of Garnkilk, against a clause in a Bill now before the House which imposed a t,,x on steam-carriages. Sir CHARLES WETHERELL thought it exceed ingly unjust that a tax was laid upon the common stage coaches, and not upon coaches of other descriptions. If no tax were to be imposed upon steam-carriages, it would only be fair to take off the tax from the other coaches. Mr. JEPHSON thought that a fair trial should be al lowed the steam-carriages, before a tax was imposed on them. Mr. WARBURTON deprecated this tax on an inven tion which was quite new, and ought to receive every encouragement. When they heard of the Americans run ning steam from Baltimore to the Ohio, they should do all they could to keep up in the race with that country. This would operate altoolt as a prohibition against the use of steam carriages. Mr. SPRING RICE said, it was by no means intended that the tax placed on passengers by rail roads should lie equal to that on passengers by stage coaches. Mr. HUME could not but repeat his objections to taxes on any species of communication ; in his opinion it was impolitic, and ought not to he continued. The establishment of rail-roads would not be injurious, he be lieved, on the proprietors of stage coaches, as any defi ciency would be made good by the cross -road communica tions. Even if it was injurious, such was the facility it would give to communication that it ought not to be trammelled.—(Hear, he , r.) The Honourable Member thought the Bill ought not to be proceeded wi t h t ill t h e House had been furnished with further information on the subject. It Lord Althorp thought lie could impose duties on rail-roads, he would find himself very much mistaken. Mr. HODGSON was not one of those who would give a preference to steam comtnunicstion at the expense of horses and stage coaches. Mr. ROBINSON deprecated any favour being extended towards rail-roads. Mr. DIXON was surprised that the Right Hon. Mem ber opposite should think of putting horses and stage • coach es in competition with steam-carriages. Ile was firmly persuaded the Noble Lord (Althorp) would never be permitted by the country to raise a tax on steam-power. Lord ALTHORp had no wish whatever to put steam camagts on rail -roads on the same footing with stage Mr. CALLA(MAN presented a petition from the parish of St. Shadwell, in the city of Cori:, complaining that a public meeting had been advertised to be held at a place called Blarney, and that it was dispersed by a large body of military, a park of guns, and a posse of police, under Sir Gorge Bingham, the High Sheriff and Alder man of C,,rk. The meeting had been intended to be held to petition Parliament upon the state of Irish manufac tures, and had no political object in view whatever ; there for., the dispersion of it by such means was wholly illegal. Mr. lIUME hoped the Secretary for Ireland would lie be able to give some explanation upon this subject, for it appnred to him there must be some mistake about it. The people paid 20,000 men to keep the peace in Ireland, and if the Magistrates and Govin - ntnent were permitted to violate the Jaw, it was high time for the people to look round them. Mr. STANLEY could not tell the precise circumstances under which the meeting was dispersed ; but this he knew, that several meetings had been dispersed which were held, not for the purpose of petitioning Parliament, but for a totally illegal object—and, indeed, the ille gality of their character could not be doubted. Mr. CALLAGHAN presented a similar petition from Blarney, the place where the nitTting was to have been held, which was three or four miles from Cork and was the usual place of resort on holidays and Sundays. Mr. LEADER supported the prayer of the petition. He stated that a short time ago a polieetnan was indicted be fore the High Sheriff and Magistrates for attending a tithe meeting in coloured clothes, and thowing a stone at the military to excite them to use violence. The policeman was found guilty. The lion. Member said there was a strong contrast i❑ the conduct of the authorities in the two cases. Mr. STANLEY said the two subjects were wholly un connected with each other ; as to the story of the policeman he had never heard of it before, and it appeared to him highly incredible. The Government did not wish to pre vent any persona from attending a meeting called bona fide to petition for a redress of grievances ; but it was well known, the object of most of the meetings respecting Irish manu'actutes was to compel persons to bind themselves to purchase goods only of Irish manufacture, and to exclude, und,r penalties, any person from buying English goods. That was decidedly an illegal object. After some observations from Mr. RUTHYEN and Mr. C A LLAGHAN, the petition was ordered to be printed. Upcn the Order of the Day being called on for the Chancellor of the Exchequer to make his usual financial statement, _ Sir EDWARD SUGDEN rose and entreated the per mission of the House to make a few observations before the financial statement was entered upon, upon what be understood to have fallen from a Noble and Learned Lord elsewhere last night.—(Hear.) That Noble and Learned Lord, he (Sir Edward Sugden) had no hesitation in saying, bad made use of expressions towards him which no Gentleman who had a regard fur his own per sonal honour, or who, if devoid of personal honour, if he were acting under psrsonal fear, would have dared to have used towards another Gentleman in his presence. Those expressions were so far removed from what one met with in society, so far removed from what he could have supposed would have fallen from the Noble and Learned Lord in his exulted situation, and in a place in which he ought to have set an example of decorum— expi essions so degrading to the person who had used them— Mr. STANLEY rose to order. He conceived the course the Hon. Gent. had taken was totally at variance with the rules of order of that House. It a charge was made against an Hon. Gentleman of that House respect ing his conduct there, no doubt that Hon. Gentleman had a right to defend hiosself trom such an attack ; but if the House were to tie entertained by listening to strong ex pressions made use of by an Hon. Member against whit he conceived to have been strong expressions used by a Noble Lord elsewhere, then the mutual respect which was due to both Houses of Parliament, and the dignity of their proceeding, must for ever be at an end. Particularly as the lion. and Learned Gentleman had given notice for another day, on which he meant to enter into the charges he had now alluded to, he (Mr. Stanley) thought it would be much better for the Learned Genleman to avoid entering upon the subject at present, particulatly in his now excited state of feelings. Sir EDWARD SUGDEN said he could not understand the meaning of the interruption he had received from the Right Honourable Gentleman. He ventured to say that no one on the part of the party to whom he alluded, had felt the slightest regret at the charges that were used against hint in another place.—(Hear, hear.) The SPEAKER believed the lion. and Learned Gen tleman was out of order, and that what the Right Hon. Gentleman had mentioned as the rule of the House was undoubtedly that which the House ought to attend to. If the Right Hon. Gentleman had intended to comment on what he understood to be imputations which some men might conceive to be applicable to the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, but which he could not show were not applicable to him, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman bad undoubtedly a right to make such a re presentation. Sir E. SUGDEN was always obedient to the orders of the House, but since he had been in that House he had never heard an attempt made on the part of any one to prevent an offended Member, when that Member belonged to the party to whom he now alluded, fom defending himself.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") That right hal now been denied to him.— He had been deeply offended. It was utterly impossible for any Gentleman to offend another more than he had been on the present occasion ; and yet by the inter position of the Right Honourable Gentleman he had been prevented from doing justice to himself.—(Hear.) He (Sir Edward Sugden) had never used language towards that Noble and Learned Lord which he might not have heard with every possible composure. The Noble Lord presided in the very Court in which he (Sir E.) practi.eil. In that situation he was entitled to demand respect from him; but from henceforth he should respect the office, not the person, and would always have to fed that he was ad dressing a man in that Court who had forgotten to act as a gentleman or as a man. He deeply felt that in his absence words should have been levelled at him such as had been used—his conduct had not called for it. He was a very bumble person, but the language that had been used was painful to one's feelings, disaoveable to one s children, occasioned sorrow to one's Jrisnds, and he for once, and for ever, declared that he hail lost all personal respect for the one from whom such language could have proceeded. Mr. STANLEY explained. Sir R. PEEL.—Sir, I have read the expressions re ferred to by my Hon. and Learned Friend with sentiments of the greatest disgust. Mr. STANLEY—Are they correct? Sir R. PEEL-1 have heard no imputation upon them. —(Several Hon. Members, " Order, order.) Sir R. PEEL—I may be put down by reference to technicalities, but I feel that this is a suhj et of deep im portance, not only to my Learned Friend, who, I think, has shown a proper sense of what is due to himself in the notice he had taken of these expressions, but to the pri vlieges of this House.—(Cheers.) When this subject was mentioned the other day, 1 stated that having heard the Noble Lord's evidence given with respect to it, 1 was satis fied that the appointment which he he had made was only p.ovisional, and that be meant to abolish the office in question ; but still 1 heard nothing in the speech of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, which was at all incousistent with the performance of his public duties, as a Member of this House.—(Cheers.) Two offices, notorious sinecures, fell vacant and they were filled up. Whit was more natural than that a Honourable Member of this House should make an inquiry upon the subject.—(Cheers ) In former times an hour would not have passed without a question being put to the Government on such a subject. I srke twice in the course of the evening, and sated my opinion to he that further discussion was then premature, but that I had no doubts the appointments were provisional. Answers having been given to the question of my Ho nourable. and Learned Friend, a Noble Lord in anoth , r place, at the head of the profession to whirl my Honourable and Learned Friend belongs,—(Cheers)— the Chief Judge of the kingdom, the Peer who presides in the other branch of the Isgislature describes a Member of this House of Parliament in terms which would effectually deter many individuals shrinking abuse— shrinking from the castigation of the Noble Lord— shrinking from the sarcasm his command of language gave him power to inflict—shrinking from the ruin which such an attack might bring upon a professional man—would, I say, deter many from performing their duty in this House.—(Cheers.) Sir, iny respect for that Noble Lord, my admiration of his talents will prevent me quoting the opprobrious expressions which he is said to have used, but when he describes a Member of this House as a crawling reptile, as an insect in the most offensive terms, the House may judge what his language must have been. I agree in the in• convenience of referring to the protteedipg of the other House, but if a gentleman is to to be attacked in such terms in the other House, he must either submit to the opprobrium cast upon, or endeavour to cast it off —(Hear, bear, hear.) I deeply regret from the feelings I have always entertained towards that Noble Lord, that he should so far have forgotten himself as to attack a Member of this House on terms so offensive, and I will say so undeservedly offensive as those the Noble Lord has said to have used with respect to my Honourable and Learned Friend.— The Right Hon. G-ntleman seems to cast a doubt upon the correctness of this report, but the one I rerer to is in the Times, and certainly if we may judge of the correctness of a report, by its elaborateness, this bears upon it the marks of being correct, but I 811411 he glad to hear that it is not so. Lord ALTHORP begged to say that his Noble Friend had told him this morning the report in the Times and another paper was most incorrect. In what respect it was incorrect his Noble Friend did not say, and as he (Lord Althorp) did not hear his Noble Friend, he could not say whether the complaint of incor rectness, applied to the sentiments or expressions. —(Hear, hear, hear.) He deprecated, however, b indying backwards and forwards from one House to the other strong expressions most unbecoming the dignity of either House, and the convenience of thoir paoceedings.—(Hear, hear.) He would only add, that no objection having been taken to those ex presions i❑ the other House of Parliament at the time was a fact which might lead to the presumption that the report was exaggerated.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. GOULBURN said he was quite willing to be lieve, and hoped that such was the case, thst the report in the public papers was, incorrect incorrect but the best proof of that would befit Noble Lord taking the earlies apparportunity of contra dieting it in his place, since he had not, which he should have thought the first necessary step, assured the victim that he hid not used the calumnious expressions attributed to him. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Mr. BERNAL and others from the Commons, brought up the Prisoners' Removal (Ireland) Bill—the Russisn Dutch Loa❑ Bill—the Tax Cart Bill—and the Charitable Institutions Bill. Mr. TOMLINS, from the Treasury, presented copies of the correspondence with the Post Office. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from Galway against a clause in the Ii ish Reform Bill, The Earl of RADNOR presented several petitions from parishes in Ireland against tithes. On the Russian Dutch Loan Bill being read a first time, Earl GREY hoped there would be no objection to its being read a second time on Monday. The Militia Bill next went through a Committee, and was ordered to be read a third time on Monday. The Marquis of LANSDNWNE presented a petition from Derby against slavery. The Report of the Committee on the Irish Reform Bill having been presented at twenty minutes past five o'clock, The Duke of WELLINGTON said the House had not for some days past begun business so eirly ; he therefore hoped a quarter of an hour would be given, in order that Noble Lords who intended to take part in the debate on this Bill might have time to arrive. Earl GREY assented to this request. _ _ At half-past five o'clock Earl GREY remarked it was now time to proceed with the business, and if anything was intended to be said on the Bill, the di.,cussion would he taken on the third reading. The report was then brought up, when The Duke of WELLINGTON proposed a clause re lative to the rights of freemen in cities and boroughs. We understood the purport of it to be to continue the right to all children of freemen born before the passing of the Act. This was a principle admitted in the English Bill, and if it was right for England, he did not see why it should not be so for Ireland. This clause was opposed by Lord MELBOURNE, and supported by the Earl of RossLYN and the Marquis of BUTS• _ _ _ After a long discussion on the subject between the Duke of WELLINGTON, Lords PLUNKET and RODEN, The Earl of HARROWEY suggested the clause be postponed till the third reading, which was agreed to. Lord RODEN, before the Report was received, was anxious to know whether the rights of freeme❑ were to be preserved in Ireland as they were in England ? Earl GREY answered iti the affirmative. The House then Adjourned. THE LONDON GAZETTE THIS EVENING. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY, WILLIAM HENRY PARDOE, Cardiff; Glamorganshire, cart enware-dealer. WILLIAM ALFRED WARWICK, Romford, Essex, spirit dealer. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. GEORGE BAREHEAD, Norton, Yorkshire. BANKRUPTS. ROBERT JOSIAH aA2 , la; and JAMES WALTER WARD,Maltion, Essex, butchers. ARN LD SHIPMAN, Dudley, Worcestershire, innkeeper. WILLIAM MAUD, Bradford, Yorkshire, grocer. JAMES KELSON, Bradford, Wiltshire, brewer. WILLIAM LATHAM, Stow Park, Lincolnshire, higler. ROBERT M'W ATT, Billiter-street, Leadenball-street, oil and colour-merchant, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JuLr 26. O'CONNOR DON presented a petition from a parish in the county of Roscommon, against the tithe system. Mr. WALKER presented two similar petitions from parishes in the county of Wexford, and one from a parish in Carlow. Mr. THICKNESSE p resen t e d pet i t i ons f rom t h e dis senting congregations of two chapels in Liverpool, in favour of the plan of national education in Ireland.— They were ordered to be printed. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from the mayor, de puty recorder, magistrates and clergymen of Newport, in the Isle of Wight, praying for an alteration of the 10th Geo. IV. chap. 56, relative to friendly societies, particu larly as regarded an extension of the period of enrolment. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL brought up returns of the Judges and other officers connected with the Court. Colonel EVANS rose to propose resolutions and to move for returns concerning the military establishments of this Country, and said he felt confident that if his suggestions were ttclopted by the Government a saving of 1,800,0001. to 2,000,0001. a year would he effected.—(Hear, h ear, hear.) It was now nearly two years since the Government had been in office, during which time most of their attention had been occupied by a great and important object, which was now happily set at rest. Hon. Members would recollect the promise which they gave to their constituents at the last election, that they would exert the utmost econotny in the distribution of public money, and therefore he sincerely hoped, that so large a sum as he had mentioned would be rescued for the People. It should be recollected also that when the mili tary estimates were brought forward there was an under standing, that in consequence of the Right Hon. Gentle man (Sir J. Hobhouse) having but just come into office, and for various other reasons, all discussion upon the esti. mates should be avoided. The present ti me, therefore , he thought most opportune for bringing forward the subject His first resolution in effect was, that the prospect of the internal security and tranquillity of the country, as well as Its strength, having been much incre ased by the passin g o f the Reform Bill, the necessity f or a reduction in military establishments was most apparent The next resolution proposed the reduction of certain items, which might wed he dispensed with. The first redoetion was with reference to persons in Chelsea Hospital—the grooms and servants of offi cers, the removal of whom, and the placing of the affairs of the college on a moderate scale, would effect a saving of newt , . 8,0001. a year. The pensioners, too, cost the countr three times as much as when they were in active service. A considerahle saving might be effected by allowing them a certain stipend, anti permitting them to live in the surrounding villages. In the civil department of the College, 40 or 50 clerks might be dispensed with, by which the country would save 5,0001. or 6,000/. a year. The salary of one of the Governors might also be reduced, for it appeared from the returns that he held three or four offices, so lie would be well provided for. By this means a saving, probably, of 3,000/. year might be effected, which, together with the other items he had stated, would make a total of nearly 10,0001. a year in that department. In the Military Asylum great reductions might also I e made by giving each corps a certain allowance, and causing them to bring up seven or eight boys. By this probably the saving would extend to 13,0001, a year, in dependent of the expense of building and keeping up the establishments. The nest item to which he would allude was the 'Waggon Train, and though it was a small item, still a great saving might be made in it. A suggestion had been made that carts could be used with much more effect than those four-horse wag gons, anti they would have a great recommendation by costing nothing after the first purchase, and of not costing the country a single farthing during opeace. The next item he came to was the yeomanry. He considered the Irish yeomanry were rather hostile than conducive to the maintenance of peace, therefore he would propose that they should altogether be abolished ; and for the small yeomanry force in England, he thought that the few hundred men belonging, to them hid as much public spirit as the 1,200,000 National Guards in France, who received no more than their arms anti accoutrements. The saving to be effected in this was 65,0001. a-year. The next item was the militia, upon the staff of which he found that there was a whole army of sergeants and drummers ; Le proposed to reduce six serjeants and two drummers from every corps, which, if extended to Ireland, would effect a saving of about 27,0001. He next alluded to the district recruiting service in Ireland. He proposed to abolish all the establishments but the two head ones. The saving to he effected by this alteration he estimated at 18,000/. The next department which could with propriety be reduced, was that for manufacturing stores and for co. loni ,1 fortifications. The BUM of 15,000,000/. had been expended in colonial fortifications during the war. The fortifications of Canada, the weakest in the world, has cost the country 2,000,000/. 500 miles out of the 700, through which the fortifications extended in Canada, were as week as ever they were. £40,000. had been voted for carrying on those works, of which not more than 10,0001. had boen expended. He would recommend the Govern ment to stop the works, whereby a saving of 30,000 L would be made, together with 180,000/. more, which it was calculated would he called for hereafter. The Hon and Gallant Member then proposed that a reduction should be made in the amount of the foreign half-pay. Many of the officers who were receiving pay from England held lucrative situations in their respective countries. This he thought was an evil which ought instantly to be abated, and if the foreign half-pay were abolished, the country would save 100,0001. a year. The regiments of Guards might be placed upon a more economical footing at present they cost 60,000/. more than an equal number of troops of the line. The last point to which he would refer was the superabundant number of officers in the army. He thought that one major, two captains, and four subalterns, might be reduced in every regiment of ca valry. Napoleon accounted for the unnecessarily large number of officers attached to our army, by supposing that the character of our soldiers was so bad, as to ren der it impossible to draw any but non-commissioned officers from the ranks. There was much truth in that observation. It was of the greatest importance that the character of the soldiers should he improved, and as one means of effecting that object, he would abolish the de grading practice of flogging. If examples of promotion from the ranks were more frequent, persons would be induced to serve as privates, of a better class than those who now enlisted. He next adverted to our large mili tary force, which, including volunteers and militia, amounted to 200,000, of whom 80,000 were effective. If the military force were reduced to the amount at which stood when the present Ministers entered office, a great saving would be effected. Ministers had increased the army in Ireland from 16,000 to 20,000 men, and he was sorry to hear that an additional body of troops was about to ha sent over to that country. Looking to the whole subject, he could see no excuse for maintaining a military establishment so large as the present, except the state of Ireland, and he hoped and trusted that Government would persevere in a course of policy towards that country which would render a continuance of the old system of coercion unnecessary. The Hon. and Gallant Member moved for returns of the Dumber of military officers of each rank in the effective state of the army that were Members of the House of Commons ; for returns of the periods of ser vice of majors and colonels, with a statement of the mode in which they had obtained their commissions; and con cluded by proposing (as the natural sequence of the healing measure of Reform) a series of resolutions, having for their object reductions in the following departments:— Chelsea Hospital ; the Irish yeomanry; the English mi litia ; regimental depot reserves ; the enlistment service : stores for the ordnance, and construction of canals; the military establishments in Ceylon and the Mauritius; the foreign half-pay list ; the household troops ; and the esta blishments at Malta and other stations abroad. Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE would beg leave to re marls. that however important the resolutions might appear to Is' in the estimation of the Gallant Colonel himself, it would seem, from the abandoned state of the benches around him, that they were not of very great weight in the eyes of the House of Commons. With respect to himself, be did not conceive that he was called upon, as Secretary at War, to touch upon a nrimber of the topics involved in the resolu tions. He could not allow that because the great measure of Reform had been'passed under Ministerial auspices, the views of individual Members of Parli fluent should therefore b, acceded to. While he admitted the expediency of making all practicable reductions, still it could not be supposed that any Member not official could lay those details before them on which reduction could be founded. No doubt, if economy alone were to be consulted, many reductions roioLit be made; but the question for them to consider war, whether or not such changes would prove beneficial to the country. The Right Hon. Baronet proceeded to ad vert to the resolutions in detail, contending that their adoption would be inexpedient, and maintaining that every practicable endeavour was made at the War-office to lessen the expenditure. He would offer no objectiou to the production of the first returns moved for by his Hon. and Gallant Friend ; and with regard to the second, he would meet it as far as the limited means at his disposal would permit. As to the condition of the army, he had been informed, that if it were our misfortune to go to war to-morrow, we had the command of as fine a force, both in respect of officers and soldiers, as had ever entered a I field of battle.—(Hear.) He would admit that in the struggle for promotion, officers of distinguished merit might occasionally fail in receiving adequ ite preferment. Yet, on the whole, he could not help thinking that the officer ing of the army was carried on upon as fair a system as could well be adopted. On the other hand, there were instances of merit being rapidly promoted. He held in his band the appo'ntment of the Gallant Colonel himself, from which it appeared that he had risen from the rank of Lieutenant to that of Lieutenant-Colonel, in the short space of five months—(llear)—and the whole time of hi distinguished services was only eight years and three months. Repeating the assurance that every practical, reduction would he made, he regretted to say that he could not altogether agree with his Gallant Friend on one indi vidual point, and conceived it better to meet his proposal by moving the previous question. Mr. HUME in seconding the motion of his Hon. and Gallant Friend, was of opinion that we had been too long under what he would call the old military system. The present mode of promotion appeared to him a proof that Lord Hill and Lord Fitzroy Somerset had not pro perly discharged their official duties. His Gallant Friend had omitted to notice the heavy staff at head-quarters, which he (Mr. Hume) looked upon as an undue burden upon the public resources. The Hon. Member went on to observe, that with an expenditure of upwards of 1 200,000/. beyond our income, with about 9,000,000/. of that expenditure for our army and ordnance alone—and this ton, in the 186 year of peace—it was too much in times of professions of economy,—and he was willing to give the Noble Lord opposite and his colleagues credit for the .intention as well as the preession —hut he repeated that it was too much to be now told th .t this expenditure could not he reduced. We were now in the second year of office of the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite, and we found that the expenditure was increased rather than re duced. They had been told that they could not reduce the establishment at Chelsea in any large amount ; but that, besides economy, we should also look to the honour and dignity of the army. Now be would beg to ask, wail the utility equal to the expense-- or at all in proportion to it ? It was a fact, that every invalid in that establishm ei t cost the country as much as three efficient soldiers of the line. Was such an expense necessary? It was admitted, nine years ago, by the then Paymaster of the Forces now a Noble Lord in the other House, that some reduction ought to be made in the staff of that establishment ; but since then, nothing had been done. He must also object to the scale of extravagance on which some of our nth , r military establishments, and particularly our schools, well kept up. He had no objection to the principle of the mili tary schools ; but he did object, as unnecessary, to the great expense attendant on the mode of conducting them. He must also object to the system of our militia and yeomanry staff. He was not satisfied with the Right Honourable Baronet (Sir J. C. Hobhouse) not being able to give any explanation of the great increase which hail taken place in our colonial military establishments, or why they should now be more than they were in 1823. He must like wise express his dissent from the alleged necessity of keep ing up such an immense military force in Ireland; treating her as if she were a conquered colony. Before the French war a military force of 8 000 or 9,000 men were found sufficient in Ireland, but now he did not know whether the force was 30,000 or 32,000 men. On the whole, he thought that great reduction might be made in all the items on which his Hon. and Gallant Friend had touched, and that too without any injury to the public service. In en e thing he fully concurred wi , h his Hon. and Gall tnt Friend, that the moral character of the army was greatly deteriorated by the debeseil system of flogging which was still continued in it. Such was the effect of that system on the minds of the public, that many able-bodied men of our peasantry, who were w-dking about wiiheut employ ment, preferred a precarious subsistence from the poor rates, rather than enter the army. The consequence was that in many instances it was recruited from the idle, the dissolute, and disorderly. Lord ALTHORP was stare the Hon. anti Gallant Mem ber who introduced this subject, as will as his Hon. Friend who last addressed ate House, had no expectation that any of the reductions they proposed could be carried into effect in the present session. He must say, his Right Hon. Friend (Sir J. Hobhouse) was net well treated by his Hon. Friend who last addressed the House. His Hon. Friend hail gone into a variety of details, in some of which he might be right, and in sonic wrong; but because his Right Hon. Friend near him was not prepared at that moment to enter into those details or to adopt them, his Hon. Friend the Member for Middlesex held him up as being opposed to all economical Reform. This surely was not acting fairly. His Hon. Friend, and the Hon. and Gallant Officer, talk,d of the army of England being 65,000 men. He did not know where they obtained that amount, but the - returns before the House did nut make them more than 26,000, and even taking the ma rines and the militia, which were not all embodied, they would not amount to the number they had stated. Every one who considered the circumstances of the counts y would admit the necessity of a levee military force for the Unite i Kinedem. - Whatever was the cause of the discontent in Ireland, into which he would not enter, the necessity of maintaining a large military esta blishment in that country must be admitted. Objections were made some time ago to the employment of the yeo manry instead of the regular troops in Ireland. He was disposed to concur in those objections, but now, when the number of the regular force was increased, a complaint was made against the increase. —(Hear, hear.) He would agree with his Hon. Friend, that the best way would be, if possib!e, to remove the cause of discontent in Ireland ; but while it was in its present state, the presence of a large military force was the only , way to protect the public, and to guard against violence. He meant not to follow the Gallant Officer through all his details, which, in his opinion, had been satisfactorily answered by his Right lion. Friend. The Gallant Officer hail particularly al luded to the subject of unattached corumissions; but, with respect to them, his Right Hon. Friend bad followed the course pursued by the Right Hon. Member fur the c Qen's e d u e e t c n o i u n n t t i ), ffi' c a e n . d o H t h e e h r o l p i e o d n an Gentlemen , t w h t o h h e a r i e l a p f t r e e r - Ministers would be enabled to reduce the number of the army. He entirely agreed in the proposition that it was the duty of Government to reduce the expenditure in every department; and that they were determined to do to the utmost of their power.—(Hear, hear.) The circumstances in which they were placed when they first came into office, rendered it necessary for them to add something to tLe military force. They could not possibly avoid it. The lion. Member for Middlesex had s aid, " Why not trust to the people of England, instead of keepine up a great military establish ment ?" Did the Hon. Member recollect the situation in which the country was placed when Ministers came into office? At that time the burning of ricks, and the de struction of property. were general throughout the country; As to the subject of CIOWI3, he would riot then enter into it. He very well knew that if the people of Canada wished to shake off their ceunnection with this country, it could not be prevented. But if, on the other hand, the inha bitants of Canada were anxious to continue that connexion, then he thought it was only tight that we should give them the means of defending themselves. Ile believed that much unnecessary expense had been incurred with respect to Canada, but he conceived that it would he bail policy now not to complete that which had been 83 far car ried on. In laying before the House to-morrow the esti mates for the current year, he thought he would be able to stow that the finances of the country were not in so bad a state as some gentlemen were inclined to suppose.— ( Hear, hear.) Sir G. MURRAY said the Right Hon. the Secretary at War, if he had not answered satisfactorily to the Hon. arunecessary l Gallant movweirt,h referencela sthadatto such a o imparted all tthi motion a sthat informa tion which appeared on the paper. But the subjects introduced were of the most varied and'dissimilar description. Not only were the colonies and the colonial system brought be fore the House, but even the Church establishment of Ire land was dragged forward.—(Hear.) As to the amount of the military establishment, he should make no remark, be cause he entirely agreed with the Noble Lord, that that was a point, with reference to the number of troops both at home and abroad, that ought to be left to the Govern ment, who had within their reach information that those not in office could not be supposed to have. He lamented as much as any man the unfortunate situation of Ire -land, but it was quite evident to him, that while dis turbances continued in that country, it was necessary to keep up a considerable military force. " But (said the Gallant Officer) look to France. Why net follow her ex ample? There you find 1,200,000 national guards, who only put the state to the exr.ense of arms and accoutre ments." Had the Hon. and Gallant Officer calculated what that expense would be ? Had he considered that be sides the National Guards, France had a regular army of 400,000 or ,5 00,000 men ?—(Hear, hear.) The Hen. and Gallant Officer had referred to Napoleon's opinion of the English army; and it certainly surprised and grieved him that such an allusion should have been made by a British officer. Napoleon, it seemed, had made three ob jections to the constitution of the British army. First, that it was recruited by money. Surely it was better thus to recruit it than to have recourse to the system of con seription—a species of tyranny which the youth of France took every possible means to avoid. Secondly, it was al leged that the British army was recruited from the gaols. This was not a fact; but even if so, a British officer ought rather to have drawn a veil over the cir cumstance, than to have exposed it to the view of the world. Lastly, it was said that our non-commis. sinned officers were bad—that they never were raised to the rank of commissioned officer 4. Th..t he de nied. In the regiment to which he had the honour to command, not less than 40 non-commissioned office,B had been raised to the rank of commissioned officers.—( Hear.) The fact was, that Napoleon knew nothing of the British army until he encountered them at Waterloo ; and then, for the first time, he was taught rightly to appreciate the valour and discip!ine of a British army, and the consum mate ability of a British General.—(Hear.) The gallant officer then proceeded to defend the formation of the wagi : on. train, and show the neceesi'y, as well as the policy, of keeping up the establishments of Chelsea and Minain ham, for the support of old and disabled soldiers. H e then briefly alluded to the importance of retaining adequate garrisons in Malts and Gibraltar, and concluded by ob serving, that though he did not, perhaps, place so much confidence in Ministers as the Hon. Member for Middlesex did, still he believed that they were anxious to make every just and proper reduction in the expenditure of the country. Sir H. PARNELL was ready to support the different reductions which the Hon. and Gallant Officer proposed; but sonic of them did not go so far as lie had himself in tended to push them. He admitted theHgeretaitioluiefi.ittstiolef several commanders•in-chief: but, in his opinion, they had too touch controul over the ISaii :) n n c . ia a l n t d e G pa a r l t l i: n e t ti o to the army, and from that controul, he conceived, tie e6Se cretaryoener,froyr at wb ra W isng a i r rne o ga u tti lh r t i:ad t r : (bi tte.bhdei this o r m e t l i, ) i l e :i v o ef ,ni l . Sir A. DALRYMPLE said, it was evident to him that