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upon the grounds he ,was now urging them in the present,instance, because in those cases, clic Rebel lion had bten quelled, • and the mischief had passed by- bat now the mischie£•was circulating through the veils of the State, a ConspVracymas . carrying on, the objet of whiCh was, to subvert the-Go. yernment of the Country, to destroy all religion . and morality,to overturn the'Throne, and - to loosen al,l- those ties which bind man to man, and consti.: tute the happiness of. society. The Hon. Gentle man had argued at some length upon the. Bills'of In demnity which had pasied upon . former occasions ; he -was glad the Hoi Gentleman had turned his thoughts to the perusal of the Statute Book,,because he would there obtain more 'imfOrmation upon this subjea, than he would probao" find -in TAC rrus. If the Hon. Gentleman had looked - accurately into . the Precedents, he would have found that the Aft which passed 'in .1780, was taken from the Aft of /746 —that , the Aa of 1746 was taken from that , of 'vs, and that the . Aft of 1715 was taken from the Ist •and sth of 'WILLIAM and MARY. The House must observe, that the Afts of WILL IAM and MARY were passed in times that certainty were propitious to Liberty,' as they were .immediately after the Revolution. The Hon. Gentleman had contended,, that these Statutes confined the Indem nity to what had been done in the' course of the Rebellion ; but if he, had read them attentively, he would -have found 'that it expressly extended the Indemnity to ;lets. done before the Rebellion, and for taking' up persons , who might disturb the Go vernment. When the Bill passed in 1715, there were a great many persons in Parliament of the greatest,abilities,. strongly attached to the•Consti. tution, and to those principles which placed the House of Hanover upon - the Throne, and they :would not have consented to the Aft of Indeinnity, if they had not considered it as fotinded in justice, and. conformable to the Constitution. The Hon. Gentleman was,mistaken in another point :• he sup.. posed that there. had not been a Suspension of the Habeas Corpus Aft upon the occasion to which he had alluded ; but if he would examine a little more attentively he would immediately perceiv e his error. The House, as he before stated, did not pass this Bill from motives of favour to the late Ministers ; such a motive would be highly improper; it was an Ad of imperative duty in the House, if they prevented persons from using the necessary means for their defence, to indemnify them, for measures to which the safety of the State was to be attributed. There was one great mistake whiCh seemed to per vade the whole of, the Hon. Gentleman's speech ; he supposed that if any person who had been taken up, , was really innocent, that he must, if he established his innocence in a Court of Justice, of course ohtain .a vertlitt against the Minister by whose warrant be was committed ; because, if it could be shewn that the warrant had, been issued upon probable 'grounds, that would be a complete defence, even though the patty should afterwards appear to be innocent.— A Learned Gentlemen had referred to the Trials at Maidstone, and ,stated, that the Judges had com plained that there were no informations upon oath ; but why did they complain ? For the same reason that they frequently complained it the Assizes when the informations were not laid before them, because it was a great convenience to . the Judges to have these informations, in order that they might know the nature of the business that was coming before them. - But he really should' have thought that' Maidstone would never have escaped the lips of any person on the other •side—lllaitistalte !, never was there such a complete shipwreck of a Party as at that fatal place.. He should have thought that the word would have been anathematized, and. that . those Gentlemen would have anxiously endeavoured to blot it out of their own memories, and from those of the rest of mankind. He should have thought, that the recollection of Maidstone would have satis fied Gentlemen,, that against such an undermining occult system of Conspiracy there was no other pro. tedion but Spies, more especially when it appeared that the Traitors had been able to impose upon the simplicity of the greatest, the noisest, and the Lea of 'men, Let Reynolds (who was called a Spy, but to whose information, and the unexampled firmness and gallantry of the Gentlemen and Yeomanry of Ireland, that Country owed its safety) be, put in competition with the traitor O'Connor• and while he would hug the Spy,,-as he was called, to his bo som, he had no language (at least that he could use consistently with the decorum of that -House) to express his detestation of .the other. He then ad verted to an argument which had been used, Viz. that if this Bill passed, it would leave the persons who had been taken up without any means of .re dress, with whatever cruelty they had been treated;' but this was`a complete mistake. The Bill, was to indemnify Ministers for causing them to he appre hended ; it did not indemnify persons for any .at of cruelty or oppression, if any had been .coliamitted, which, notwithstanding all the Petitions and Affi davits, he believed ,was not the case.—The AT TORNEY GENERAL then most ably replied to other parts of Mr. Gaavi Speech ; but we lament that for Want of room, we are unable to detail the re .. tuainder of his Speech. He concluded with saying, .that he voted for this Bill with a safe conscience ; and he trusted after it bad passed, he should still retain an unblemished reputation. Mr. TIBRN.EY said, that though he was not examined at Maidstope, yet he , sluoulcl have given the same- evidence as the rest of his friends gave there ; hitt he was stare the A TTOR NEY.GiNER AL would not assert, that since the con fession which -had been made, that any of those Gentlemen who gave evidence there, any longer telt any friendship for Mr. O'Connor. - He then complained of this BM's being introduced so late in the Session, and when hut few besides the Secret • Committee were aware tho.r. such a Bill was in agitation. ,'The Learned Gentleman had rested' much upon precedents, "h u t none oflhose he had quoted were like the present Bill, f o r they limited the time of ads being done by the Executive Government for which-an indemnity LVas.granted ; but in the present instance, the House was called upon to indemnify Ministers for acts done by them'foreight years back. He be lieved the truth to be, after all the disclosure of plot; &c. that Mihister4 in,applying for this Bile, were more concern ed for•their own justification-than for the public safety, The Legislature was called upon to indemnify Ministers for ads done or S years back, without their being obliged to disclose the grounds on which they procevicli ; it was called upon to say, that they estigiit to be subject to no inquiry whatever, ±Or acts ( * lone by them attesting the security of the Subject.-- , Learned G,tutlernan might show that they were in fuenerd by no bad motive; but might they not have been imposed upon ? The-course he should have preferred would ..,11-.ve been to give these men an opportunity of proving their iunoccney, .tuid a; the tame time to h;tve tofit'whified 3t015 from personal risks and pena!tits i By this Bill, the notity was called iyon to enable the late Minister, to destroy -01 V fortune s tArhiliet- itnd Npitt4tioa of any titan lit the Country. No damages that could be awarded Would replace these unfortunate men to the same rank in society which they formerly held ; but to shut the door against their attempting, this, :would be to do a harsh act.---Mr. 11 zarwe then' pro ceeded to condemn the mode of electing the Secret Comnnt tee by Ballot, according to the Treasury List ; he was sure the House would not think that a Committee so constituted was a proper substitute for a Trial by Jury., The Commit. tee had acted bn. the InforMation given them by Informers, whilst the whole of their justification . might turn. upon the single fad who these Inionners- were. But if the persons who had been arrested were allowed to be put upon their de fenee, .they •enight have skewed that these informers were actuated by Malice, or some improper motives. He would. not charge the late Ministry with the wanton cruelties that had been exercised on the arrested, but he charged them with presuming that the men were . uilty in the first instance , and putting them' in situations where they had experienced acts of cruelty, whilst the shield of proteCtiofa. held up for them selves by this Bill would be accompanied with the ruin of these Unfortunate men. Mr: IV. SMITH charged the arguments, adduced -by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. WINDHAM) with sophistries and rash conclusions; and had the Hon. Gentlemen taken the other side of the question, he (Mr. W.) could with 'perfect ease have confuted the leading arguments Of his own speeCh. With resped to the formation of the Secret Committee, the, Right Hen. Gentleman had confounded the means by which the Committee might be chosen, with the numerical compu tation of 21 with 658. He had also confounded Laws with Principles of Law : and with resped to Spies and Informers, the Right Hon.-Gentleman ought to have refleeted that their use 'had at all times been discuse;ry of crimes, and not the punishment of those who were chargeable with them. He was not against using means of gaining secret information, but - when in conseqttence thereof, men were taken up and punished withelose imprisonment for three years—a .punish ment, in his opinion, worse then death—this was a eunish ment that could not be assigned as the proper use of Spies. With resped to'the Hon. arid Learned Gentleman (the A-r -e o aye y GeN Lw.) ha wikhed that Gentleman would fol low up in practice what he stated in theory,- namely, that the State ought to indemnify those who were deprived of the nicans of justification. _ln the present instance there were two partie,, and it was hard that the rich and powerful should be indemnified, whilst the Bill would destroy . all possibility of indemnification to those who would be depnved, at any future period, of an opportunity of justifying their own character before. the Public, and endeavouring td obtain some retribution. Unless the Bill fixed sonic specific period, (as the end of the War) until which time those persons should not be suttered to bring actions for damages, without some such limitation, he must say no Bill ever passed More unjust. Sir IV. PULTENE) . thought it would be very impolitic to sutler those persons to.bring iorward such adtions at present, as the Defendants would in that case be forced to produce their e means of information ;' but he aveid with the Hon: Gentle man (Mr. Sri re it) in thinking this difficulty might be avoided by limiting the period when such actions might be brought. Tho SOLCITOR-GENERAL answered this suggestion, br requesting the Hon. Baronet to recoiled, that at the ex piration of a future time the means of defence might be cut otr,.by the death of Witnesses.. Upon this ground. it was that the Law limited an Action for false imprisonment to the period of four years. He'begged the lion. Gentleman (Mr. SM i T ii) to recollect, that if in consequence of any information to. warrant a commitment by a Magistrate, the Magistrate would be justified, and no action could be brought. by the person arrested, nor could the Plaintiff in this case have the opportunity of clearing his eharader, and even if it could be -proved that. the Magistrate or Secretary •of State . had. been imposed upon by his Inforther, no charge could be brought against the Magistrate for the commitment. - The Sot: e l- TOK.G EN l'At AI. then proceeded at some length (but which our limits will. not permit us to give in detail; to defend the labours of the Committee, and to charge upon Opposition a credulity in believing every insinuation against Ministers, and being equallseinctedulous every thing that respected 'Treason anti Plots, and the Report of the Committee. He condemned the mode suggested by an Hon: Gentleman (Mr. EN.N Iv) to suttee the matter in the first instance to go to a . Jury, and then, if damages were given, to suffer Ministers to come to Parliament for a Bill of Indemnity. - The measure proposed stood sufficiently - strong on its own ground, but if it need any additional support, the current of P recedent was also greatly in favour of it. It was a measure intimately con -steeled with the Public Safety. . Mr. Tx xiteiry explained. • A Division being loudly called - for, the House divided-- For the SPEAIZIAt'S leaving the Chair -37 z. Against - - • - • 38 Majority - The House then went into a Coimnittee.on the Biii, after which the Report was agreed to, and ordered to be received on Monday next. Mr. Agnor brought up the Irish Qualification Biil,-which was read the first time, and ordered to be-printed. Mr. BR A G z. moved for leave to bring in a Bill to regulate the Trade to - Malta, which was agreed to. The Copper. Exportation Bill was read the first time. The.lnsh Spirit I.icense, and the Irish Additional Stamp Duty' Bills, were read a third time, and passed. The Bill for Legalizing Orders of Council respeaing the detention of Russian, Danish, and Swedish Ships ; dcc. was read the third tune, and passed. On the Motion of Mr. ADDINGTON, the Committee of Ways and gleans and of Supply, was deferred from. Monday to Wednesday next. At Tvielve o'clock the House adjourned to Monday. TH, E S UN. oi.Em 12U1 t,>tl:k.llE tALJUNI AUI)AAT ? LONDON, JUNE 6, 1801. IN the agreeable intelligence from Egypt, which we have had the satisfadion of communicating within the two last day there is one circumstance, the advantage of which.we under-rated, but which it . is very material to remark. The GR AND VI z x had not only made himselltnaster ofSalahie, but had even entered the Desert, and had proceeded as far as Bel. bit. 'lt is even asserted,that intelligence had al. ready been received of his having entered Cairo, the Citadel of which place was still in the possession of the French. It cannot make any long resistance, and should'it 'even do so, it might he easily masked by a . very :small body of .Troops: At all events, the progress made to the Eastward, by the Turks, de cides inevitably the issue 'of the Expedition, and will, probably,, render it much more immediate than we ,could even have hoped. Their position on the Upper Nile will deprive the French of all possibi lity of deriving any, supplies from the Upper Delta. Their position is,turned, taken in the rear, and out flanked in every .sense. They had only four Main Posts remaining on the aad of April, those of Alex andria, Rahmanie, the Citadel of Cairo, and the small Fortress to the South of Damietta. It is only by the first and the last of these that there is yet any absolute possibility of receiving any reinforcements and of communicating with France.. We may cx pea to hear, before the end of this month, of the Capture or Surges er of all Egypt, with the excep don perhaps of the citadel of Cairo and illexiindria. —The latter place will evidently be last taken, and our Readers may recollea that use. - have Uni formly preclifted that this would be the case, from the first moment when . every thing seemed to, pro. misc that it . would very, soon fali , into our hands. THE Ernbarto in our Ports upon Ru4siatt mid Danish Vessels is, we ,understand; ordered to he taken off--La circumstance which proves that a com plete understanding stibzisti between our Govern'. ment and that of those two Powers, upon the sub je6l- of the late disputes. Sweden must of course become a party to the Treaty of Pacification. WE last night received Paris Papers to the 3d inst. They are entirely ' destitute , of interesting intelligence. We find nothing on the vbjed either of Egypt or Portugal. In an Article from the Hague of the 26th ultimo it is said, that the Court of Prussia and the French Government intend to interfere in order to remove the difficulties which exist respeo;7g the Compensations to be made to the- , PRINCE of ORANGE, by the Batavian Republic. The French Tiers Cons°lide have risen after their late great fall. They are now at So.. THEIR MAJESTIES and the PR ICESSES kit Town yesterday for,Kew Palace. Yesterday the Light Horse Volunteers of Lon tfon and Westminster, commanded by Col. HFR- R I as, were reviewed by His Royal Highness the PRJ NC Eof WALES on Wimbledon Common. The Prince 4nd the Commander in - Chief, attended by a great number of General Officers and other per sons of distinaion, came on the ground at half past ten o'clock, and were received by a Royal Sa lute of Twenty-one Guns, from the Flying Artil lery on the Right of the Line, which was formed, as usual, by placing the dismounted Troops, or Riflemen, in the Centre, and a Squadron and a half of Cavalry on_each Flank. After receiving the Prince, and passing in parade order, the Sword Exercise was performed by the Cavalry, and the Manual of the Rifle and Highland Bread Sword by the dismounted. They then-trotted past in Hallo squadrons, with the Guns in Front, and the Expe dition Carriages in the Rear ; changed the Front of their Line in all diretiovs ; attacked by Squadrons ; in cluse'Column deployed into Line while -advanc ing, and in Line. The retreats and formations were all admirably well covered by the Horse. Artillery and Riflemen, and I lis Royal Highness expresrd, in flattering terms, his approbation of the correaness and rapidity of all their movements. The whole, was over before twelve o'clock. Captain DAY, the late Agent for Transports at Lisbon, arrived on Thursday at Lord Hoc An-r's Office with Dispatches from Mr. FRER nister there.—These state, that immediately after the sailing of the last Packet from Lisbon, M. PINTO set out for Badajor, on the 'Spanish Frontier, to meet the Spanish Minister, and purchase Peace upon any terms. Portugal is represented as inca pable of making any defence. General FRASER, who is there; has under his command only about zOOO men, consisting of Emigrant Corps, from which there were daily desertions, and it was - sup posed if a French Army entered Portugal, that they would wholly desert. They were embarked, however, to go, up the Tagus to the Frontier, but as M. Pt NT° carried with him a carte-blanch, there can be little doubt but Peace may be purchased, though upon very hard terms. By some Dispatches intercepted from GA:I THEAUME to the Chief Consul, it' appears that 4000 French Troops at Leghorn were ordered on ,board his ships, as a reinforcement for Egypt, but not a man would embark ; and that zOOO Troop, were tried at Ancona, on the same ground, and with no better success. On Monday last the Elcaion came on for the County: of Edinburgh, fora Member to serve in Par_ liament in the room of the Right Hon. RpBERT DUNDAS of Arniston, now LORD CUIEF BARON of. SCOTLAND, when ROBERT DUNDAS, Esq. of Mel vine Castle, was chosen without opposition. His MA j esJY has ordered that an undress uniform shall in future be worn by the Knights of the Garter —it is to be a.plain scarlet frock, with a small Star of the Order on the left breast. • C o. BARLOW, of the Pberbe, of 36 guns, now fitting for sea in Hamoaze, is appointed to the Cornaiand of the Audac . ;am . , of 74. guns. A female maniac,. of most wretched appearance, was , taken into custody on... Thursday, at Sc. James's, for throWing a stone at one of the Scrjeants of the Guard, and assaulting one of the. sentinels at the Garden-gate, just as His MAJ-ESTY was going in : at the time of her apprehension . she had a large stone in her hand and another in her pocket. In the.evening she was brought before Mr. FORD, at Bow-street, where, on being interrogated, she skew. ed evident signS of mental derangement, calling herself Britannia, and other incoherent expressions. She was sent to Tothill-fields Eridewell, till she can i be otherwise disposed of. - A- more glaring. instance of the gross falsehoods daily imposed upon the Public, was never exhibited, than in a Paragraph which , appeared on Monday last in a certain Morning Print, under the head " Fashionable World," and which has been since inserted *in two of its servile copyists. We refer to the account there given of Lord COURTENAY'S Ball. There was not the slightest ground for tbe assertion of the manner his Lordship received his company ; and the entertainment displayed nothing more than what was terjraty becoming the rank and fortune of-the Noble Host. Yesterday a General Court was held at the East India House, for the purpose of determining by Ballot, the following Question : " That this Court do confirm the Unanimous Resolutions of the Court of Directors of the 4th February last• ; and that the t..ourt of Directors do, without delay, act upon the Principles detailed in those Resolutions." At six o'clock the Glasses were finally closed, and delivered to the Scrutineers, who, at a late hour, reported the numbers to be, For the Question Against it ...1 809 ....... 234 - - * These ResOutions were framed in consequence of a Letter front the Right Honourable HgNRY DUNDAS to the Court of Dire ors, on the subject of, granting greater facilities to the Tr a d e to an d f rom ' India; whereby indivi duals are permitted to partake of indulgencies in regard to a ready and exu.:nsive impur. :..nd export, nelivt before allowed. ,41124 i ' 140.„ 1, VLscig''Z's. p ,-- Ms-C. Non iM I atrinique I , ;deniem. Std mibi torte datum. PORTSMOUTH, JUNE 5. . 1 His Majesty's Ship Aidadous, of 74 gulls, yes terday arrived from Plymouth, where she has been refitted, and is'come here to be paid, previously tO her joining the Channel Fleet. The liPra -this day moved from St. Helen's to Spithead. • Arrived the Champion Cutter, from Marcou by her we hear that the French Troops. are assem bling in great numbers at the Ports in the Channel. The Dreadnoieght, of 98 guns, will be law:elicit at this Dockyard on the 13th inst. YARMOUTH, Jura-S. ARRIVED the Narcissus Brig and Pba,;;:e Lug ger, From a Cruize. DOIER, Jt-NE THE Nang, LATIMOk-E, which sailed with a Flag of Truce for Calais on Wednesday, this day, with Dispatches for M. Orr°, a nd Paris to ad* inst. Tile Master r e p orts, that-wivhin these few tines large bodies of ' yroops,, have marched into Calais, anti-yesterday a body 0 Horse ; anti that more Troops ate daily ex P eEte " there, and in the neighbourhood. return& SHEERNES, JUNE 5. Tuts day sailed the Queemborough hired Cutter , Lieut. FABIAN, for the Downs. The Seratir Store-ship has pissed up the Kira Thames.' TO 7HE EDITOR GF THE SUN- London, ymme 5► 1$a1• SIR, Tick partiality which the Navy have to your raper, in' duces a Constant Reader to request you will insert the Names of those Gallant Men who commanded in the Action off .Copenhagen on the 2d of April last. The Gazette whi` b announces this important Viaory over the Danes, omits the glorious opportunity of handing down to posterity whO dint were that fought the Battle. Edgar, G :Murray. Bellona, Sir T.B.Thempsoill Ardent, Tho. Bertie. Russel, Cummings. Glatton, Wm. Bligh. : Agamemnon, R.D.Fancit irti Elephant, T. FOloy: • Desiree, H. I nman. Ganges, T. F. Fremantle. - Amazon, E. Riou. Defiance, R. Retalick. Blanche, G. E. Hamnlonos Polyphemus, John Law ford. Alcmene, S. Sutton. Isis, James Walker. I am, Sir, Your most obedient humble Servirat •AN OLD SEAttfAX• havekind t o o f d Troops t with our ei t gallanthe, i., Those who wish to obtain a c orrea idea °I. the not do better than to take the authority of IVlr t ; otter's Siege of Acre, at the Lyceum, in wlli c e Piaure is fully displayed the appearance and costoli of the Turkish and Ivlameluke Soldiery; as well, 3 0 of the several Corps Which compose the Reruh liel either as i.iClloieusn otrryEmneeniniinesE, gc)ar Army, partitularly the ci-devant. Invincible Gros ' Fliers whom Bonaparte himself condueteel so tl' walks of Acre. The Royal Amphitheatre, Westminster-Briag? may be said to have taken Curiosity in some e l '',":. ner byy - storm—sucti are the potent and inteses t l i n : attrattlions of the new Military and Naval SpeaaT e called British Glory in Egypt, preserired-fa t „, id time last night to one of the most nowt or: ak distinuishtd, and fashionable audiences .tbstiln been witnessed for a series of years. To s n i any other terms than praise, of this inimitabl e f r . ::: - dudion, would be to censure only to.be censure°. • Such incidents as this Piece displays, with its th IA; gion of real Cavalry and Infantry , together wi. Fleet of the Line, was never before seen on the Stag" be On for the B e nefit of Mr. Jones, the Manag et, Monday evening, we . ' underst and, is er d ° the Royal Circus, St. George's Fields , 'whose eltij tions and spirit in .bringing' o ut the most sekviic Entertainments for the amusement Of the " v ; has been truly conspicuous, and we dou bt 11 , °I croWded and brilliant' audience on the oc cao 5 4 . 0 PHILA;ITIIROI'IC SO6IE T Y. --' The 0 Conl ih i s have the pleasure to state to the GOrtrrloo ° e 'ria- Institution, and to the - Public, that at t heir ' 3 '; ce of niversary they were honottrei with the ? re i ns the their illustrious President,. His Royal 141'.iestew puke of, York, 'several Vice-Presidents ai' l l end ards, and With • a respectable and numerous a" joy s ance of its 'Members.---One hundred arid numerous and fifty-three Girls, under the S o ciety's I' . 0 1. tion, Walked in procession round the room as u that The,Treasurer reported that he had received c' n f fifth day from the Royal President, 'a donation 0 ie j Guineas towards the expence of building within the Reform, which, 'with other tionatiooo4. the table, and including a colledion of 1 4.01. ss. : n o at Curztm Chapel, at the Anniversary Sermon the preached by the Rev. Dr. Rennell, Vaster 0103. Temple, amounted in the whole to 10-1-.1- 1 . 1 is j_ a nd whereof 2691. tss. was foi the proposed h ` re 774.1. 175. iod. for general purposes of the .l u ' in bl i shot tion, the particulars whereof will be Pt' _ the usual quarterly advertisements. a chgsit I'g ICE or STOCKS, VLSTIADA.Y. 'lndia Stock Ditto s. dis. Exchequer hills s. N c w ditto s. dis. 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