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1 ~~;~ 1 -F , , r •, , ,,11,J, 1 ; ,, 4/ N,">Wl-:tiV , ; „.• -, , -_- :71' 0 4 ,W- i; .' , . --- --.Vt.,.,Th-..r.1f" - - - : .. . ' . • . -•-c , -"==-1. kie ..-, '•'-'-' - , - • N . ..„ . a ' -- ----kAt' 4... i --.' k.jit , t., 4 ..-..e; *.....5g : 4. , 0. 4.,. ...4. .- , '-'4; ? 4 ;:r . ..' ' '.. 2. : ~, • ' -. 7 ~ . - 4., ~. 0 f•„- 06 4:11110,gra curd , valid ion of dOne, land- '' .',-.:, •. -,.....' , . '-',4, ..,.:, - ',. .--) '-,., .... ~ .... i s , , ..... ~,a 6..„ z .., „ ..,,. . I i 1 • - :- ~. .2 ., ,,, , ~.„, to set )1. the i f/ t/-~ 4 1. /1/ iously i , and 9318.] SATURDAY, JULY 6, 1822. PRICE SEVEN PEN CE üblie , of the nd on The The been OFFICE OF ORDN4NCE, Juße 24, 1822. This Day was Published, price 7s. in boards, RESPECTFUL LETTER. to the EMIL ill of LIVERPOOL; K.G. First Lord of his Majesty's Treasury, &c. &c. ; occasioned by the SPEECH imputed to his Lordship at the Isle of Mallet BIBLE SOCIETY MEET ING. • farmers could enter into competition with British farmers. Agricultural distress , prevailed on the Continent even to a greater degree tharLiwthis country. - Many cases were known to have taken place abroad in .which mortgagees had gained hold of the property of the mortgagors, from the latter not be ing able,to pay the interest, and preferring to abandon their lands altogether, to remaining saddled with a debt which they could not discharge. Others who held lands from the Crown had also been ohhged to surrender them, and the Crown, in consequence, had been unable to obtain any money froth them. He understood that some objection was entertained to that partof the Bill which allowed warehoused corn to be brought into the market, on. paying the duty of 17s. per quarterovhen British corn should reach the price of 70s. But it must be recollected, that if British wheat should rise to 808., as the Act now stood, the whole of the warehoused grain having been im ported un4r that Act, and on the faith of Parliament, must come into the Market free of duty. By the present Bill, on the contrary, it would have to pay the duty, and if it shOuld come into the mar.ketat 70s. per quarter, which w as mos t lik e ly tR be the case with the whole of amounting to 650,000 quar ters, it would be the , only foreign wheat that could be-sold so .low. 'When he said that it was not likely to be sold so low is 705., he meant that its holders sceiwr ' the market on the rise would naturally conside r it wou ld not be more to their ad vantage to wait till British corn reached 4.141. and then to sell their corn freiof duty, rather than to ilisptise or it at 70s. and to pay a duty of-17s. into the bargain. If their Lordships approved of the'first part of the Bill, and conceived the scale of duties calculated to yield such sufficient protection to 'British farmers, he did not see how they could object to the second, relative - to warehoused grain, which was only an extension of the, principle of- the former. It was true that the present Bill would be wholly inoperative at the moment of its being passed; and would yield no immediate relief to that distress, which lay like the.night mare on agriculture. • Mit he conceived that it was advantageous to legislate at. a time when there was nothing that could tend to inflame the passions. • If their Lordships should wait till the price rose nearer to 705.,- they would not be able to discuss the subject with so mu c h temper; and the people wonld4tot feel so.contented as they now did. As to the idea of some individuals, that. there should he a heavy duty of'3os: operating on all foreign grain, it would he found im practicable in execution, as it would amount to a total prohi bition. .Under all these circumstances, considering the pre sent measure one carculated to produce much futuregood, he trusted that their. Lordships would not object to going into the Committee. . object of. the - present measure was to make it impossible that the market should again be brought down on a sudden by unlimited importation. He believed from the change which had taken place in the currency that a protecting price of seventy shillings would now be quite equal to that of eighty shillings in 1815. As to the warehoused corn, its owners would take care not to sell it so low as to make the average price fall below that at which importation was , allowed, and the' effect of the whole would be that the price of corn would no longer- be subject to Feat and sudden variations, whilst the duty paid on importation after British wheat bad reached Ms. was a protection which the grower had not enjoyed before.. The fall in prices could not fairly be attributed to the amount of- taxation, for it had been experienced to the same- extent in those parts of the Continent, particularly in Switzerland; where taxation was almost unknown, and it was at .the time when our taxes were heaviest that prices were also highest. The present law would prevent the recurrence of the .effect produced by unlimited importation in 1819 on the market, and would place the country in a more advantageous situation than that in which it now stood. He therefore trusted that their Lordships would at least allow the Bill to go into a Committee. HOUSE OF COMMONS. R PRINCMIL OFFICERS of His MA-: JEsTrs ORDNANCE do hereby give Notice, that Pr "*-Tis will be received at their Office, in Pall-Mall, on Or before the 15th of July next, from such Persons ors may be ; 11114 Y to unde r t a k e th e Performance of the PLASTERER'S ;T UC required for service of this Department at the Tower , 01 Greenwich, Woolwich, Purfiect, Gravesend, and 7 : bu r', for a period-of Three Years, terminable at any time re? t heexpiratiom of One Year, upon Three Months Notice letn e g i ven by either Party. 'OP the 'Terms and Conditions' of the Contract, apply at the r See reletry's Office, in Pall-Mall, between thr Hours of e ' 4 and Four o'CloCk, where such Perron as intend to make 7;ender for, th e C on tract Will receive' a Schedule of the °r* to be performed. i. 744 e Proposali must be delivered, sealed up, and endorsed, Proposals for the performance of Plasterer's Work," but n o Proposal can be admitted' after the 15th day of June next, 1 7! rw elee o'Clock' at Noon; 'neither will any' Tender be no nuless the Party makiwg it, or an Agent in' his be ' a il; shall tittend. The SOrArEn'todk the Chair at half-pist three. and the House was than summoned by the Deputy Usher of the Black` Rod to attend the House of Peers , for the purpose of hearing the Royal Assentgh - en io certain Bills. • t - It the some id not r was By the Rev. H. H. NORRIS, M.A. Printed for. F. C. and .1. Rivington, 62, St. Paul's Church yard; and 3, Waterloo-place, Pall-mall.. :• HI6HGATE CHAPEL 'BILL; - Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition from the inha bitants of Yinchley . and Hornsey against the HigligateChapel Bill. He depreßted the practice of bringing in the sane Bill twice in ‘the sanie 'Session. • rir HE MONTHLY CENSOR ; or, General Review of Domestic and Foreign Literature, No. 11. is just • published; price 2s. 6d. It contains upwar ds of 4a Articles, and among other's the following : THEOLOGY; Copleston on Predestination (concluded)— , Thackeray's Defence of the Clergy—Archdeacon Jefferson's Charge. POLITY; Plan of Savings Bank and Work for Children—. Rivingeon's Annual . Register for 1797--Roscoe's Illustrations of Lorenzo de Medici—Vie de la Duchesse d'Orleans—Wad, ditigton's Visit to Ethiopia7Voyages.des.Freres ano the ich of ward, Mr:" BROUGHAM observed, that as the Bill, although a private one, watt of considerable public interest, he trusted th a t his Hon. rriend who introduced the measure would not bring icon at an early period of the evening,'before the. House was in a state to give to it the consideration which its importance de seri-ed. ' - . : 1, ran heard gto . l l, ' stalrs stairs - sight, PHYSICS; Venturi.) Throt . y of MeChanies—Mernoirs of the Astronomical Society of London—Phillip's History of Vegetables—Madame de,Geolis` Les Jeux Champares.. PHILOLOGY ; Fortimei of Nigel—Pen Owe,o—Atlant Blair : —Carwin—fir R. Maltrar•ers—Non of Arrotica. The Earl of CARNARVON thought it desirable to ascer tain what was the minimum of protection winch would suffice, to sustain the agricultural interest, as he was convinced that' the country could not flourish long if the prices of agricul tural produce were forced much aboice those obtained in Other markets of Europe. such a measure would Erove fatal to our commerce and manufactures, would deStroy the home market, . and occasion incalculable distres. Before they pro ceeded to legislate on this subject for future generations, they ought to be well informed of the causes of present dis tress, and he thoug,ht they could never have lesS data to att upon than they had at present. He was of opinion that much of the existing distress grew out of the alteration which had taken place in the currency of the country. This subject, how ever, he did not mean to press on the House at that moment. He could not persuade himself that any Noble 'Lord could think that 80s., or even 70s. the quarter, could continue permanently the price of wheat in this country. A higher price than 60s. could not be reckoned upon. They had no data on which they could legislate prospectively, and therefore he put it to' their Lordships whether it would not he wise inavoid coming to any decision at present ; upon these grounds, he. should vote for the amendment. Printed for F. C. and J. Rirington, Sr. Paul's ghorcii-yard, and Waterloo-place, Pall Mall ; ,aud G. and W. B. Whittaker, Ave Maria-lane. This Day was published, By Order of the Board, Seeretarg. In Two Thick Volumes, Bro., with Portraits, 28s. boards, dedicated by permiision to Lady Holland, NAPOLEON IN EXIL'E; pr, A VOICE FROM ST. HELENA. , 09. 'hese, ARMY CONTRACTS. ComMissariat Department, Treasury • Chambers', June 26, 1822. NOTICE is hereby given to all Persoris de sirous o f con t rac ting to supply the following Articles ( ;he Us e of the Army, viz. t . Al's, to his Maj es ty's Cavalry in Cantonments and Qum -- "s, in the under-mentioned County.:— The Opinions and Reflections of Napoleon on the most im portant events of hit Life and Government, in his own words. By B. E. O'MEARA, Esq. his late Surgeon. " Je priemes parent et amis, de Croire tout ce que le Doc teur O'Meara leur dira relativement a la p(4ition ou je me trouve, et anx sentimens tine je conserve. voit ma bonne Louise, je la prie de permettrequ'il lui baise la main." :lock iat it ) the , an'l Le 25 Toillet, 1818: . . NAPOLEON. Printed for W. Simpkin and R. Marshall, Stationers' Hal Court, Ludgate-street. *** A 'franstation . of the Work in French. under the sane lion of Mr. O'Meara, is in a state of great forwardness. mar then Oxford. ; P°R AGE; viz. —OATS, HAT, and STRAW—To his Ma jestY's Cavalry in Barracks, and Oats,, in Cantonments Xnd Qll4 " e rs, in the nmler.mentioned Counties : PARLIAMENT, •ved, Idea es of was; HO USE OF LORDS, - FRIDAY, JULY 5. ROYAL ASSENT. who Lore was :lort At a quarter before four o'clock. the .LOrtD CHANCELLOR and Earls BATHURSTRiId SHAFTES BURY appealed as his Maje Sty's Commissioners, and brought the Royal Assent to the following 'Bills : • • The Roasted Corn Bill, the Irish 'Window Tax Repeal Bill, the Scotch Distilleries ,Bill, the Metropolis Police Bill, the Irish Eicheciner Offices Bill, the - Welsh Coals Regulation Bill; the Kihneinham Tension Bill, and the 'Brighton Har bour-Bill: ' and- the ister f ,then intid out !re fiber, a 0I isb, the I ted ing ons, ir• nt• ra „ he art va o IPA gar AO' tt, Cornwall, Middlesex, Warwick. "A r -- t .:: (lC) ats','Hay, and Straw, to his Majesty's Cavalry and ~`I " Y Horse s . in Barracks;' and Oats in. Cantonments and. 'tt!arters in the undermentioned Counties, viz : ; — "ex; Kent, LancaSter, Northumberland, Sussex, That the Deliveries are to commence on and for the 25th dano h , . %ust next taat s' Proposals iinwriting, sealed tip and -ark " "Tend er f or A rm ' Sbpplies," will be received at this 4 ce °n ° r bef o r e T ues d a y, th e 25th o f July instant; but "re will Tie teceiVedafter Twelve otlock on that day. - . n r : 6 Posals' must be 'Made separate& for each County, and each Proposal' 'roust liave the Litter which is annexed to tile : 4 snderFiroperly filled up, by Two Persons of krrOWn• Pr9tieriv, .etigaging to become bound with the Party ten-' 41ei-il lg, in the ammint stated in the printe a g Particulars,' for, the due Performadee of the Contract; 'no Proposal .._, noticed , unless made on a printed Tender, and the b tic f,! - express - ed '‘lprds at length; and should it so feq that during .the Continuance of the Contract 'no f t! • 441)1 should supplied by virtue of the same, the amount • ° h • t4e Stamp s on ihe Contract and Bond, paid the first 1- " ltaP lel?y , thecontractOr, shall be refunded tri him. hrtip 144 10 f the Contracts may be had upon application est Chambers, bet Ween the hours of Ten and Four. . - 16TH OF THIS MONTH. tl a nd J..SIVEWRIGHT have great plea -I):t.s9r! in offering to their Friends and the Public an „ue• f i r , l% ; ?f, gaining the TEN cAPITAI. PRIZES sure to ' I . ), C First Day With Inst.), at the 'following tri- VIZ. . A Whole Ticket only IL I . Bs. :Half - 11. ss. I Eighth 7s. 6d. %inane 'l3s. I Sixteenth. 4s. ALT pt, r aft er t !, .uRCHASERS at-Land J SIVEWRIV‘IITS' Offices, recur King the chance of the, irst Day, will ,be. allowed to 4 itly) 4 t heir Tickets or Shares (at any time on or before 26th Real, whether drawn or undrai.vii, at the above very trilling l ose ilet ion from the Price they gave,. which is all they can (I, 4wri arld th Mdy gain the Ten Capitals that are stire . to be bnY of Div the ,l6 Floating Prizes that may happen to up the 'First * TILE SCHEME CONTAINS TWO . Ileiid - , TWO es of Capitila of £2,000, £1,000; &c. &c. Consols ~, Ti ck . 4 nd Money' and Nut-Two Blanks to a Prize. "Vitki e f iL . ,and Shares are Selling at J. and J. SlVE .Oflices, 37 ,, Curnliin ; I 38, Hayiparket, whey 11, Holbor n ; I Corner of Corentry , street. - • ter y, e they sold ALL the 420,000 PRIZBS.in a recent L0t ,...._ a nd in their Last COntraet 4,421, a Prize of £23,000. MESSRS. BRCWELL AND COMPANY, Ship Harmony, 224 June, 1822. ,_8115.--Last O c t o b er I h a d a Topmast.•Btud. 'ail made of Scotch 'Broivn Canvas. I was upon a all lir e °I . 7} Months to Barbadoei and St. Lucia.—We bad th e s t l!ls of Weather with a great deal of Rain; consequently dodgy laid several Days at 'a - time in the Long-Boat, and I ti er ,!t entirely free from Mildew. Any other Canvas that v iatti l hare seen made use of under the same circumstanyes, opi n; Q h ave been MildeWed, if not Rot ten. : I am of a decided ion '°O, that the Scotch Brown Canvas, prepared by ,you, outlast either Coker or any other Canvas unprepared. .I`e ot eser I ant, &c. JOHN CURRY; s Browell & Co. Owner & Captain. W I DOW WELCH'S FEMALE PILLS tietne_ b are obtain e d th e sanct i on an d a pp ro b a ti on o f Ger lkledi? of the M ed i cal Profession, as , a safe and valuable i ihe o .. c :ne ! in removing 'obstructions, and relieving ()pier the se en!ences to which the female frame is liable, especially _w_hich at an early period of life frequently arise , from cre ate 7 exercise, and general debility of the sysynii. bey iteri oti g n appetite, correct indigestion, remove giddiness and 'trier s il ! a d ache, and are eminently useful in windy dis taio_ Nins in the stomach, shortness of breath, and palpi -1.2_0s of the heart. oreh as alim et el's are requested to remark, that, as a testimony of Niu e 4 6 4, each Bill of ,Directions is signed with the ( 1 ) ti • - .. C 442 r‘J'il , i n , ~ . C, \tilti Sold Wholesale and Retail, in London, by Wright, C. O . atri a Iret-street ; Barclay end Sons, Fleet Market ; Ne%.w hrYSons, Si. Paul's Church Yard ;. Sutton and Co, 1,30_ ,trurch Yards Sanger, 350, Oxford - street, . opposite Bcind _r:tet ; and Son, Long Line, aki_ . _t__(••StiNt, Ind ; Butliir and Sons, Clienpside ;, Godfrey Snlithfield; Johnston, 4tlWindus, Bis hopsgate-street : and by all Country Venders, it!' 9 d Per Box I s lot, Is ne cessary to inform the public that . REARSLEY'S Pared 1, 4 ' 1 ' 4 , c niginal aild genuine Medicine, and has been pre "Y LIM for more than thirty years. PETITIONS. Petitions froth Owners and'Oceilliirs of Land "against the Corn Importation Laws Amendment:'Bill were presented by the following Noblemen . • - . the 'Earl of STn.irinnokE six. Petitions from the County of Suffolk. Ey the Earl of ORMOND trio Petitioni from.the Connty of Derby. By. Lord EASKINE two Petitions from the County of Oxford, one' frOni'that of Northumberland, - one from Bristol, and one from the County of Hereford: B'y the Marquis Of CAmbErr two Petitions from the County of Kent. --- By Lord DENBIGII three Petitions from the County of Warwick.. By 7 : ari FIT Z IL LOI and the Marquis of BAT TT, one Petition 'from the County of :York, and one from that of Somerset. By Lord CALTnonrE fOur Petitions ' from ale County of Warwick," and one from That of Norfolk. - By Lord DACRE one from the City of Hertford. All these Petitions were laid on the table. Lord DUNDAS presented a Petition from " the Protestant Dissenters of the City of York, praying for some alteration in the. Marriage "Service.—Laid on the table. MEStaxEit, from the Secretary of State's Office, presented an Abstract of Population Returns, according to the Act of George I.—Laid on the table. Earl BATHURSTpresented a Petition, respectably signed by Owners and OccupierS. of Land in theCotinty,of Gloucester, against - the . Corn Importation Laws Amendment Bill.. He should have been glad if it had been presented by any other Noble Lord, as it would have come better froni any of their Lowlships, than from one who was about moving that-the Houie resolve itself into a Comniittee on the very Bill prayed against. He had, however; just received 'that Petition on en.: tering the House, and thought it his duty to present it. Read, and laid on the table: CORN RILL. The Order of the Day. havingbeen read ; - • Earl BAVIIURST, in rising to move that the House re solve itself. into a Committee on the Corn Bill, expressed his, concern that the task should have devolYed upon him in conse quence of the absence and indisposition of his; Noble Friend' (the Earl of. Liverpool.) His first wish had been to Postpone the Committee, but as many Noble Peers had come from'the Country on purpose to attend the debate, he had thought that it would be more convenient for them that he should proceed ;•• the more so, as he could not say positively whaolay next week it would be in, the power of his Noble Friend to open the subject. In taking that duty uponhimself, he should not enter into the .origin of the existing agricultural distress, as its ciuses • did not appear to him-to affect the Present- Bill, which was only intended to amend the Corn Act. It was well known by their Lordships, that under the provisions of that Act, all importation of wheat and ,other grains was entirely prohi bited till the home price of corn rose to 80s. per quarter, when unlimited importation might suddenly take plaCe. Much incon venience had been experienced from this quick transition from a total prohibition to unlimited importation, and from the cOnse quent variations of high and •low prices.. Wheat might also' be warehoused whilst the ports were open, and even after they had been closed, it was brought to market, to the great detriment of the British farmer. The object of this Bill was to prevent the effects produced by that sudden transition from prohibitiori to _unlimited importation. This 'could only have been done in two ways; either by regulating the quan tity to be imported, or by establishing a scale of duties. The former could never have been done effectually, even had the importation been confined to one port ; the latter was there foi e adopted. It was now proposed that as soon as the home price, should rise to between seventy and eighty shillings .per quarter,Toreigit wheat should be imported on paying a duty of 17s. per quarter for the first six weeks, and of 12s. after.— Should the home price rise to 80s. or Ms., the duty on foreign wheat would be 10s. for the first three months, and ss. after, and should the price continue to rise, the duty would fall down to one shilling, or become merely nominal. the advantage of this measure would not be confined to the protection given to British fainieri againit sudden and unlimited importation, but to that afforded him against the irruption of.warehoused corn into the market: Few warehoused corn would now not be considered as imported, and could not be brought to market until it had paid the new duties, which would be a considerable check on the operations of speculators. It had been said that the duty imposed on foreign grain would not be sufficient to protect British farmers. But it must be considered, that be sides thiS ditty of 17s. per quarter, the:expence of freight and insurance amounted to not less than 125., besides the usual five per cent. for mereantile profit. Their Lordships would there fore see-that foreign wheat would have .to pay 295. per quar ter in duty and expence of freight and insurance before it could be brought into the market ; this added to its own value, which might be reckoned at 48s. per quarter, would make it impossible for merchants to introduce it into this country at a less price than seventy seven shillings, which would :give British Fanners an ample degree of protection. He should probably be told that foreign wheat might be purchased at 385., .per quarter ; but the. reason that its price was so low was, • that our ports were closed ; the Moment our market should be thrown open, the price would rise as it had invariably 'done on former occasions. Neither was it to be believed that foreign Lord ERSKINE contended that the object of the authors of this Bill was to - repeal to a certain extent the Act which they had brought in themselves for the protection of British farmers in 1815. As there was no pressing necessity for such a men.- sure, he trusted that his Majesty's Ministers would have no objection to postpone its conipletion until the next Session.__ He then took a,view of the flourishing condition-of agriculture during the, war . ; When peace came, the markets bad grown lower and lower, and had fallen down to nothing, becalm the GoVernment was . nolonger in the field. It was on that account that his Majasty's Ministerahad passedthe Corn Act, vriaich it was attempted to repeal by the present Bill ; a Bill to which the Noble Earl might justly apply the name of nightmare, for it had hem debated ..night after night in the house of Com. mons ' • but it 'was a nightmare which, unlike a ll oth ers , con- - tinned after people were awake, for the incubus lay on the mind of agriculturists, morning, noon, and night. He consi dered his Majesty!s Ministers- entitled to high praise for hays' ing passed the Corn Act as they had done, notwithstanding the violence displayed by the people o h th a t o ccas i on; f or I though friendly to the principle of a free trade, 'he con ceived that that principle could only be brought into operation when the country was in a natural state; which was not the case during a 'war of liberatitin, thrown upon us by necessity. The Noble Earl had admitted. that corn might be purchased abroad at 355..; how then could a duty'of 175., which would make the price of a quarter of foreign grain only 525., yield sufficient . protection to British,farmers ? The Noble Lord then went into the history of the proceeding:: of the House of Com, mons and of its Committees, the Reports of which had laid the foundation for the present measure. - He wished that instead of lowering the protecting price, it should have been raised above 89a.,..'-or that such a duty should have,-been laid as would have proved effectual. When there were more than 300 Petitions on their, Lordships'• table against this Bill, for what purpose was the public mind agitated by an attempt to legislate that which it was admitted must - beat present totally inoperative ? Such a measure ought not to pass unless a proportionate re duction should have taken place in die taxes of all kinds, which, agriculturists had to payao the State and to the poor'. Could the Noble Earl believe that if foreign corn should be imported at 52s.'the British farmer should he protected in raisifig his corn and bringing it to market ? Speculators would not - be'so easily checked as the Noble Earl seemed to imagine. They would. cut his throat for one half. per cent. more. But their Lordships were told, that in order to remedy AgticultOral dis, tress, it was only necessary to throw the pitor lands out of cul- . tivatioh ! The Landholder should reply, ‘" I don't see the 'use of all this taxation • it must be reduced; it will be only throwihg the' Three pe;Cents. out of interest." Suppose the poor lands should.be thrown out.of cultivation, what would become of their proprietors ? What farmers asked was i;e munerating price, and before the passing of such a Bill 'as the present, burdeng.must be equalized : manufactures, which brought `so many poor' into a parish, and the large buildings 'of which were not charged more than so many barns, inust . pay . iii a more equal proportion. Had there been any Peti, - .tions in faVour of this - Bill ? its professed object was the relief of those who were deemed not to have been suffi ciently relieved by the Act of 1816, and yet it'was a measore, which its authors admitted they would-be afraid of passing if it were not to be totally inoperative at this moment ! They had rio right to pass new laws to affect Agriculture, with Out first lightening its burdens. But it would be said surely this Bill cannot be so bad, for it has passed the Commons by a very large majority, and the Commons abound with Representa tives of the Landed Interest. It happened sometimes, however, that men seemed to have forgotten the opinions which they had expressed abroad, when once they came into that House, and, indeed, . . " There are more things in Ileav'n or earth— " Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." • The Noble Earl then recapitulated his arguments against the andmoved that it be committed this day,three months. Lord DACRE conceived that nothing could possibly yield immediate relief to agriculture; and therefore regretted that an attempt should be made to legislate in a manner injurious to Agriculthrists at the very moment when nothing could be done available to them. At Dantzic corn now sold at 32 or 338, ; the expence of conveyance and tonnage was proportionably. small, and on an average, a quarter orgrain could be imported for 385., to which, if the proposed duty of 17s. were added, it would be found that the whole price in our markets would not exceed' 555. He allowed that foreign corn would rise the moment our ports were opened ; but speculators would take care not to let it mount so high as to approach the protecting price in this country. He implored the Noble Earl to abstain from 'legis lating on the subject at. present. Next year, time, circum stances, and even accident, might elucidate many points which would render legislation more easy and beneficial.— From the inquiries which he had made, he was not satis fied that superabundance of produce was the chief cause, or any cause of Agricultural Distress. The number of inclosures, which had ' been mentioned as a proof of over pro duction, 'was only 1800, comprising about five millions of acres. This formed about 1-7th of the number of acres in cultivation, and 1.14 th more produce than in 1800. But then the increase of population had been so great, 'as to keeP more than pace with that.of production. If before the neat Session it should be found that superabundance of produce was not the cause of agricultural distress, the House Would have to legislate in a very different manner, from what it was now called upon to do. It was not, therefore, too much to ask for delaY, when there was not one efgriculturist in the country who was not ready to peti tion their Lordships not to give him that relief which they were now preparing and professing to afford him. The Earl of HARROWBY maintained that the only points to be ascertained were, whether their Lordships ought to legis late now, and whether the present Bill was such a measure as they should 'lsm. • If they were to wait till every possible cause and shadow of cause of the present diStress had been ascer tained, they would notsatisfy the 'expectations of the country, which, if - it did not look for immediate relief, at 'least expected from the wisdom of . Parliament that a prospective remedy should be provided for those evils which experience had shewn to exist. The agriculture of the country had now for three years and a half - enjoyed a complete monopoly of its own market, 'and yet there had been a continual lowering of prices. '['his he was disposed to attribute to the. quantity of corn imported at the beginning of 1819, which' being fol leived by three abundant harvests, .occasioned a heavy weight on the market, which had since continued to be felt. The Lord REDESDALE remarked on the assertion that this was the fittest time for legislating on the subject, because no clamour had been excited. It ought to be remembered - that the agricultural - body, with whom much of the labour of the country was connected, was at present in a very agitated state, and therefore he did not see that advantage -now offered with respect to time, of which some Noble Lords had spoken. He objected to the present measure, as it had a tendency to en courage gambling speculations in corn, and thus to pioduce fluctuations in the price whith it was the interest of the coun try should not be experienced. At present there was a great depression, not only in the price of corn, but in that of sheep, tattle of all sorts, and every description of agricultural pro , duce. The farmer was distressed' not merely because of _the money price of corn, but because he could not get those articles of which he stood in need in the way of barter for that portion of produce Which would formerly suffice to purchase them. If the burdens which the fanner had now to pay-absorbed two bushels of wheat where they formerly called for one, it could easily be understood how the agriculturist was distressed. A similar pressure was felt on the Continent. The fanners there . were in an artificial state, as well as the farmers of this coun try. It was not to be expected that the prices would continue what they were now, when things had got into a more settled state. He therefore was unwilling, under such circumstances, to pass a Bill like that new before their Lordships: This tiles.: sure he objected to, as one which was to have no regular sys tem for its foundation, but was to depend on averages and re turns from time to time. Every measure of this sort Was very liable to abuse. It was known that abuse_had occurred under this system. 'lt led to a species of garbling like that of 'Change-alley, where the bulls and the bears endeavoured to' raise or depress the price of Stock, according to their peculiar interests. But those who went there, met with those who knew how to counteract their effects. But the agricultural body were in such a situation that they were unable to oppose the schemes of those speculators whose in terests were opposed to theirs. The importation of. foreign fine flour to mix with English flour was sometimes useful. He should prefer a constant limited importation of grain, subject to a proper scale of duties, to the plan now stiggested to guard against the evils of a scarcity. - Tins he thought would be pre ferable to exquding foreign grain altogether, till the price of wheat rose to 80s. the quarter, and then acting on a flew sys tem fotinded on the lower price of Ps. He wished the passing of this Bill to be postponed till further information should have been obtained. He could.see no object in passing the Bill in the present Session, as unless the price of corn rose to. 80s., of which 'there was no prospect, it could have no effec on the wheat now in wareho u se. He 'offered some commen t on ere warehousing system, and cdncluded by giving his opposition to the Bill. • , Lord ELLENBOROUGH considered the argument opposed' to this Bill applied to it but as a permanent measure. The, fact was, it ought not to be so considered, as they were legi slating to remedy a present evil growing out of the existing ; law. He was of opinion that under this Bill the bonded corn might gradually be brought into consumption without injury to the agriculture of the country, but in such a manner as to prevent the price of Wheat rising to Ns., which he thought would do good, He hoped their Lordships would allow the Bill to pass, not as a permanent measure, but as one to carry us through present difficulties till we got to a state of things which would - admit of the passing of a law more permanent, in its character. Earl DARNLEY objected to the frequent interference with those interests which were the subject of this Bill. Their Lordships had wisely declined to institute an inquiry in the course of the vresent Session ; but the House of Commons had: come to a different resolution, and this Bill was the conse quence of the inquiry they set on foot. He was of opinion the measure, would be of no avail. The evils at present com plained of had a tendency to correct themselves. If the Trice of produce declined, from that decline in price the Poor's Rates might also he expected to decline. The tithes were in the same proportion, whether the price of the produce was higher or lower. High rents, he contended, had never ex isted generally, but where they had, a reduction must take place. He called upon their Lordships to pause - betore they passed this Bill, and especially as those very persons for whose relief it had been devised, now came forward, almost ace voce, to petition against it. They would rather be without it, and therefore he hoped it would not be passed, as the measure 11/03 not called for by necessity. The system of averages had been abused. lie believed that interested persons had devised means to lower them, so as to open the ports to foreign Corn, when there was no actual necessity for doing so. He could wish this subject to be inquired into, and means taken to make it impossible for such a scheme to meet with success hereafter. It was, however, unnecessary ,to enter upon this subject now, for unless some extraordinary act of Providence should remove from our fields the plentiful harvest with which they were at present loaded, the price of grain could not rise to 60, or at all events to 70s. He felt it to be his duty to vote against the Bill. The Earl of MORLEY considering the uncertainty which alwaTs attached to the produce of the soil, could not feel as certain as the Noble Earl did, who had just sat down, that the price of wheat would not.rise to 80s. before the next meeting of Parliament. He thought this Bill a desirable measure of pre caution, and one that would he agreeable to the agriculturist_...: They all remembered that last September the price of wheat had - suddenly risan to 70s. Circumstances might occur to cause a still greater advance, against the consequences of which it was at all events desirable to guard. He should vote in favour.of the Bill going into a Committee. The House then divided— Contents - . 37 Not Contents - . - . 19 Majority in favour of going into the Committee —lB When strangers were re-admitted, the House was in a Com mittee on the J3i/L The Earl of DARLINGTON expressed regret at the thin state of the. House on the discussion of so important a mea sure. It had caused great alarm among the agriculturidts, and with the view he took of it he felt it to be his duty to oppose the measure on every occasion. The Clauses were then agreed to without amendment, the report was received, and the Bill ordered be to read a third time on Monday, the Lords to he summoned.—Adjourned till Monday. BYNG said, that when the Order of the Day for' the . Second reading of•the Bill came on, he should proved to move • the second reading. ' The Petition was laid upowthe- table. -- • Mr. CALVERT presented a similar Petition from Kentish Town.—Ordered to lie upon the table. • • . Mr. BYIIIO- then moved the second reading of the Bill. • Mr. 'HUME opposed it, as being objectionable in its nature, and calcnlated to :prejudice a case now - pending before the • High Court of Chancery. This had been declared by'the At torney-General in his place in that House, and he was sur prised that those who originated the Bill should afterwards think of proceeding with it. He moved that it be read a second time that day six months. . Mr. Alderman WOOD took the same view of the character • of the Bill, and supported the amendment. Sir J. GRAHAM condemned the conduct of those who op posed the Bill. Towards hini personally they had behaved with a degree of scurrility which he - trusted his character was far above. He felt them to be beneath his notice, and he de spised them. Amongst other calumnies, they had accused him of motives of pecuniary gain. To this he would reply;that he had never received h farthing for 'his professional labours since he had been in Parliament. -He contended that the Bill was a • 'just measure, and one which ought to be supported. Sir R. WILSON wished the Hon. Baronet to state the rea son why the inhabitants of Highgate, if they' wanted a Chapel, did not proceed to build one some where else ? Sir J. GRAHAM •did not pretend to be acquainted with the secrets and the motives of the parties: The answer, however, Seemed obvious; namely, -that they considered themselves to have a right to the existing Chapel. - Mr. Alderman HEYGATE said, that without reference to the personalities of any of the parties, the House, in his opi nion, ought not to interfere with property willed by Sir Roger Cholmely,i to convert it to any other purpose than that he con templated. Sir M. CHOLIV.IONDELEY_ supported the Bill, as useful:- to the inhabitants of Highgate. Mr. BROUGHAM said, that his judgment had neither been influenced' by one party or the. other His opinion was first formed upon 'the Report of the Commissioners•for inquiring into the state of Charitable Institutions. With regard to the system upon , which Private Bills were carried through both Houses of ' Parliament and obtained _ the' Royal Assent; if' it were exposed and laid open, it would Make those HouSes themselves -shedder at the injustice which was practised upon property, and fill the country with disgust: - There was' 'a practice of canvassing in Committees, carried to suclean ex-' fent, that Gentlemen were induced tb do there, - Upon ques tions .involVing the 'most 'extensive - rights of rtaperty, what they would not do in a jury box in a case of live pounds value. Unless Gentlemen entered Parliament, as he had done - witti a determination of having nothing to do with Private unless they were in reality of real public importance, they would be sure to find themselves drawn into these proceedings; He should certainly . take ah opportunity of bringing the . SO. ject forward, and calling the attention of the House towardi it.He did not mean to .charge"this upon any'partieularide" of the House, it was common to' both. He opposed theiPill, before the House, becanse he considered they had to apply the property of Sir • Roger Cholmeley contrary to the direction contained in.his Will. '• He had plainly'ditected ' application to the maintenance of a school • and 'cliaffel44lld-' ing and school-keeninieVere of Highgate wanted a Chapel, he should be quite ready to,gtants. them 'tv Bill authorising the usual mode of levying the MO - a:Y . 'for building one. • Mr. WE rIIE RE LI. stiialiprted the Bill, upon the grand' . , that the chapel was originally intended for the use of the hiip let, and not to be confined to the Master and sdholats of the school. • Mr. N. CALVERT' wished to know from 'the HOn e and . Learned Member, whether the chapel was used for paroliiiir' „ purposes ? Mr. 'WETHERELL answered that it was, and that inni.e riages had alwaYs been solemillzed there. ,The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought - the only qiiestion could be as to the intention of Sir Roger Chclmele'y ; and, that. was not one Which might to be decided by Parliann-,nt. It Was a question of 'equity, which the CoUrt Of . Chancery was hest authorised:to' decide - upon. - • • • ' •- • • Mr. H. SU3INER was of opinion that the Hon. and Leainitd. Gentleman. who had alluded to the proceedings in'. private Bill business, would have done hiniself more honour if he could . have stated that he had given his time and his talents to en lighten Committees so as to have - prevented those injustices, o f which he coMplained:—(Heir !):-.41e thought the Bill hail better be withdrawn for the present: Mr. 1.11 - 11 G said that he had been the partisati of neither of he parties out of doois who opposed 'and supported this Bill.— He brought it forward becausd he thought it • was desired* the majority of his constituents. He - contended•thift the clial - rel had always been considered' as belonging' to the' inhabitant's, and that flick had a just claim' upon the property of such a place of worship. . • Mr. WHITBREAD expressed his regret at being obliged..i.o oppose the Bill, in contradiction to the opinion and advi ce of his Hon. Colleague. •- The noose then divided. • For the Second Reading - fi9 Upon our re-admission into the Gallery, we foUnd Against i : t tia jorit Mr. BROUGHAg on his legs giving notice that h e : Would for - the • _ 62 7 . -.- call the attention of the -House to the mode of passing private Bills, on the next stage of the Bill. ••• . Mr. CALCRAF'r said that his - Hon. Friend ought to deal charitably to all Members, and to allow them the merit• of being uninfluenced' by corrut• motives. He (Mr: Caleraft) had seen much attempted in that House by men of eloquence and superior 'persuasive powers, who; during the Wbole.Of their address on a late occasion, did not attempt any thing but soli:, citation : he should not name the party. That he and Others were open - to solicitation on private questions was not e:itraOr dinary, because they Were connected with the country. Until they were detected by his learned Friend in something kw- Worthy of them, he wit in hopes he should not hear the coun try gentlemen designated as having 'sha - met'ul!y atterided to cl licitation and influence in the discharge of their public Mr. BROUGHAM hoped that. his Hon. Friend. did nbt mean to infer or assert that bis motion of last night,' relativelo the Calcutta Bankers' petitiOn, had . owed its 'success to rive influence or solicitation. lie was proceeding to describe iho effects of a canvass he had witnessed in' a Coniinittee above stairs, where influence and solicitation had been too effectually used, when Mr. H. SUMNER rising to order, ,- • •• ' • - The SPEAKER said he was satisfied the gootilense of the Hon. and Learned Member must point' out to him at it would be' irregular in him to pursue those extraneous observations further. The Bill was then read a second iirne and orderedto be omit mitted. RUSSIAN CLAIM TO DOMINION IN AMERICA. Sir J. MACKINTOSH said that he had some questions'to put to the Noble Marquis opposite, of t whiith it would be for him to say a few 'words in explanation before be propounded them. The House was, without doubt, aware that the Emperor of Russia had lately issued an Ukase,' by whi4h he claimed as Ruitsian dominion a large portion of the North t toast of Asia, and the North-west milt of America, and by which he had likewise adjudged to the Russian Empire a pOr tion of ocean which was not less`than 5,000 Miles broad. As a. proof that he intended Wextrcise the'sovereienty which he had claimed, he had forbidden all ships to come within 100 Italian miles of the American coast within the iilst degree of north la titude. Now 'there wete•vveral ships at th t momelt fitt!ng out in the port of London, to'carry oh their usual trade in that part of the ocean - Which' the Emperor of Russia had adjudged to hiMself. The questions which he, therefore, wished to ask of the Noble Marquis were these : first, Had his iltajcstyl4