The Sun. — London, England, 1847-07-20 00:00:00

„ la s augmentation of the sure of souls, as far as Zese might be seen necessary, due msideration 'Zing always h a d to t h e wants an d w i s h es of the different districts. How, then, were the expression s of Hon. Gentlemen justified? Here it appeared that th e Governm en t, b y di m i nishing the super fl uous dignitiet • of the Church, and by abrogating the patronage of the Crown and of the bishops, had a sum of 300,000/. per devote to th e extens i on o f t h e E ngl i s h bi s h opr i cs. „” A U did not wish to argue again the whole merits of the Iltiestion s it was sufficient for him to say that the pre sent was to be viewed in the light of one of a series of measures, and looking to the reforms which had been already obtained by the abolition of pluralities, the More effectual provision for the cure of souls, and many other reforms, he really thought that if a case could he made out for the establishment of a new bishopric, it Would not be right to prevent the Church from the exercise of that power which belonged to all dissentients, whether shill, ecclesititical, or political, viz., an extension of the Means of government of such bodies. He thought that it was an essential part of the plan which he had hinted at that there should be an increase of the number of bishops beyond that of Manchester. He was fully per suaded of the correctness of that opinion, and he did not purpose to take one single farthing from the taxation of the country, or to in crease the power of the Church by giving those new bishops seats in the other House of Parliament. In that ° P ill i°fl he was fortified by the opinion of the Right Rev. 13re latese who fo rme d part of the Commiss i on. The 'Whole bench of bishops were quite satisfied with the arrangements, t h at there should be a creation of new hops who should not have seats in the Upper House. lie trusted, therefore, that the House would not refuse to hgo into Com m i ttee t hi s evening on the 8.11, especially Ile e had given up the sitting of the House on Saturday on the e xpress conditio n th at t h e H ouse should go into Committee today for the p urpose o f hear i ng the objec tions of the Hon. Member for Manchester, and those 0 f _the R ight Hon. B aronet the Member for Dorchester, olsposition to the details of the B:11. Sir W. MOLES WORTH th oug ht t h a t t h e w h o l e o f the O ne ar gument of th e N o bl e L ord might be summed up in one sentence, viz., " that we have hith e rt o d o n e some Mount of good, and it is right, therefore, that we should now do a little evil." He did not think that such Was sure an argum en t fi tte d to be used in favour of a tues for the creation of a new bishop. He thought that it ought to be clearly established to the satisfaction ete House that there was a necessity for a new bishop nua re the Bill was allowed to pass into law. So far from neeh a case h av i ng been made out, there had been ,fltY spe a k ers on his side of the House upon the Bill, V.! • of that number seventeen had spoken against the No pressing emergency had been brought forward Y. the Noble Lord, or by any other speaker, tor pushing aole measure forward with so much haste. The Noble Lord said that the commission had recommended the creation sereasileefvtbilishs°Ptof Manchester upon the union of the tho and a g h ot t that there nd Ban gor ; h e (Sir W. Molesworth) "a forward a measure of this nature, only a Y when the Noble Lord had said that this was porti on • the s u b- r l of a great an d com p re h ens i ve measure on Would jeet ` He thought that the better course be Whell to a postpone the Bill till next session, f or full opportun i ty wou ld b e g i ven intithee e oneideration and discu s si on o f th e w h o l e bear -4;e' h e question ; a n d h e f or one wou ld promise! be st "„ Bll ,,efl a measure was brought f orwar d, to g i ve i t h i s most attentive consideration. vte TRELAWNY said that he wo u ld di v id e upon , r); st factious of the Bill ; b ut h e wou ld not b e a party to ns opposition. MESSAGES FROM THE LORDS. Me ss !•-. de _ engers from the Lords appeared at the bar, and Tended a conference with the Commons. th e 4der d 'I, • RUSSELL with several other Members nod,l retired, and i oti after the lapse of ten minutes returned held t hroated to the House, that at the conference just Lords, .eY had agreed to receive me-sages from the twee sin at iltt lre• by on e M aster i n Ch ancery i nstea d o f Log _ present a J LTut' „ kr. coSELL explained. just and oh • k ' ET T continued to think the measure un " % !ermi ned 4;l' ° liable in every resin ct, and he was de tlen pro resist i t in all its stages. (The Hon. Ge n ma the ho w l- ceded e to rea d severa l l etters expressive of %t or , .ltY of th e writers to the creation of any new k i r rl sse which excited much laughter.) the rules thought it was not i n accor i ance w ith re a d e s of the House that any Gentleman should fou se. su ' doecument without the permission of the riu,, Me ta l ) " 1 E said that this was done every day by her e ; heL. the Government as well as by other Mein- Th e st ?&louse, es t or orde'ErAlEß did not think the Hon. Member was kr. T . • Ileum '''uNCOMBE hoped the Hon. Gentleman the his er for Winchester would not proceed further with gent,bouniTehnd as he could not give it his support, being tarn arrangement he had made with the Go lion ra t eet „ on Friday last, not to give any further opposi krOTlue House going into Committee on this Bill. loan r . s . ' °BI3 ORNE concurred with the Hon. Gentle piece ' o s'e Member for Finsbury, that after what took Spent ~I f l Y r i daY night, he could not support the amend and ale Hon. Gentleman the Member for Winchester, k r e b i lePed the Hon. Member would withdraw it. fro m t ie said, that after what had fallen not e tion• Member who had just Token, he would • Pea?" his amendment to a division. T he atnendment was then by leave withdrawn. m"rt:ltiouse then went into Committee on the Bill. teent PHILIPS said a deputation of his consti bead had With him waited upon the Noble Lord at the to pa e Governm ent , urging him not to allow this Bill Of sea of t s il l its present f orm, an d h e took that opportun i ty the..questing of h er M a j esty ' s Government, that when Joel e alfle to legislate again upon this sub lesi'e their views and statements should not be was sight of. There could be no doubt that Manchester not - great! ' think Y 111 want of spiritual education ; • but he did clew,this Bill was calculated to supply the deft to e. must therefore move a verbal amendme nt ruaa,!.preamble of the Bill, to prevent certain paroch ia l o f tssin Manchester being appropriated to the purposes , Bill. Air. Ph. had b e OLMONDEL EY regretted that this measure he hoped but ell hitherto discussed in so intemperate a tone ; 4 the Bill, now, that they had . got into Committee with W o u l d the merits and details of the measure „ be discussed with more temper and decorum, and less reference to party feeling or sectarian differ supported of . pinion. For his own part he most strongly withinthis measure. At present Manchester was di n; the jurisdiction of the Bishop of Chester, but that of his prelate had so much to do in other parts 1415 diocese that he could not devote that attention to u_anchester which its wants and importance demanded. trcu- e. under existing circumstances, considering the ity of the funds attached to a new diocese, he b:ftght it would be much better both for the bishop f_l_atself as well as the diocese, that the bishop should not 4 r pe l o h? Present be put to the expense of sustaining the T L or d J• otgnity of a seat in the House of Lords. n 'Ek ' ra J. RUSSELL wished to say a few words in ewer to what was stated by his friend the Hon. Mem- Which h oer for Manch ester. He di d not think that the reasons gave were such as to make it at all necessary Chapt er introduce a clause i n thi s Bill as to the Dean add vhapte r of Manchester. The question in regard to the parochial duties connected with the Dean and Chapter did not depend upon this Bill ; b u t a t th e same ti me h e mus t say th at he thought, after hearing th e s t a t e ments sf the gentlemen who came as a deputation, that the revenue of the Dean and Chapter was derived almost entirely from estates in Manchester and its neighbourhood, that Provision ought to be made in some future Bill for better a p ir itual;care, by applying part of these funds for that POrposie. In what manner that was to be done, and what Was the exact state of the law, he was unable to say; but he did think there was sufficient cause for calling the attention of Parliament, at a future time, to the applica tion of these funds. Mr. HUME did not believe that the necessities or wants of Manchester required the establishment of a new bishopric. Manchester was within the diocese of the Bishop of Chester, and all the services the people required of a bishop could be easily performed by that Right Rev. Prelate, if the number of poor district work mg clergy were augmente d.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. 11. WALKER said i t was his intention to give his consent to the passing of the Bill. Mr. HORSMAN supported the amendment. He did not object to the creation of a Bishop of Manchester, but as it had already been settled that a b is h opric of Manchester should not be created till the uni on o f t h e Sees of Bangor and St. Asaph took place, he did net till that event think it right to proceed with this Bill on- Burred.—(Hear, hear.) Me .SEYMER said he had no doubt that the work ing clergy were of great service to the Church, but it Was necessary that some supervision sh ould be p laced over so larg e a body of them as were engaged in admi nistering spiritual relief in the large and important dis trict of M a nchester.—(Hear,hear.) After a few words from Mr. AGLIONBY, Col. PENNANT said he represented a portion of this new diocese o f Manchester, and he e cterns of the district which he represented were strongly • in favour of this measure.—(Hear, hear.) ~..After a few words from Mr. Hume, Mr. Horsma n, ear. Ch o l mon d e l ey , M r . C o ll e tt, an d Mr. M. Philips, Sir W. MOLESWORTH thought that t here an io. erewere t wo questions to be considered, first, whether Crease of bishops were really necessary; and s e co ndly, Whethe r i t wou ld or wou ld not b e more a d v isabl e i ns• tead of creating those bishops, an increase wer e to t ? Made in the amount of the incomes of the wor kin g o clergy of the country. He did not think that a case new teeessity had been made for the creation of a ne wiall °l 3 - It had been stated by the Noble Lord that t h e .11eeessity had been established eleven years since. h flied that such was the ease; it had been proved y r eotnnaission, which then inquired into the subject, — n at in some cases there was not enough for the bishops do, and in other cases there was too much, sod it was resolved to unite the sees of St. t s . ,,sPh and Bang or, to divide the see of Chester, create a new Bishop of Manchester. Ent he would ask the Noble Lord why in the present 11 4 . st silee he had not, instead of proposing to make a new % --11 °P, brought in a measure to add a portion of the t i s , t e °I Chester, which was considered as too large, to be e see of St. Asaph ? The Government would thus j 4 -- "e avoided inflicting on the people of England an in- P" 10 1 as was proposed by the present Bill. The oble Lord had gone -- further, and said that it was his i stentt • th e „ to propose to create a Bishop of Bodmin for otes e - t °llll tY of Cornwall. But he having sat fo r the ha v Y of Cornwall in one Parliament might cla im to he fesl.ome knowledge of the feelings of that county, an d r fo r quite convinced if there were any Hon. Membe • or es , rise u p al i l n the Hous e th a t h e would nut dare to in his place and thank the Governm?t went of a Bishop of Colima My , will" Tll.B SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY _EVENING, JULY 2O, 1847. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the Huse of Commons.) MONDAY, JULY 19. BISHOPRIC OF MANCHESTRR, &c., BILL. (IN THE COMMITTEE.) Preamble, p. 2, lines 1 and 2; Amendment proposed, to leave out the words " and for establishing forthwith a bishopric of Manchester :"—Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Preamble." The Committee divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 86. Acheson, Viscount Goulburn, Henry Parker, John Adderley, C. B. Graham, Sir James Pennant, Colonel Anima, Colonel Grey, Sir George Philipps, Sir R. Baring, W. B. Grogan, Edward Polhill, F. Bennet, P. Hallyburton, Lord Price, Sir R. Bentinck, Lord G. Hamilton, G. A. tryse, Pryse Illackburne, J. I. Hatton, Captain Richards, Richard Blackstone, W. Hawes, B. ROund, C. G. Blakemore, R. Heathcote, G. J. Russell, Lord J. 13orthwick, Peter Henley, J. W. Rutherford, A. Bowles, Admiral Hildyard, T. B. T. Seymer, Henry Ker Bramston, T. W. Hope, A. Sheridan, R. B. 'Brown, W. Howard, Henry Somerville, Sir W. Buller, Charles Jermyn, Earl Spooner, Richard Cliolmondeley, PI. Jervis, Sir John Stuart, J. Clerk Sir G. Ramble, H. Troubridge, Sir E. Clive, Vise' Laseelles, W. S. Turner, E. Colvile, C. R. Law, C. E. Tyrrell, Sir J. Craig, W. G. Lefroy, A. - Vyse, R. 11. B. H. Cripps, W. Lowther,. Hon. Col. Walker, Richard Denison, J. E. Macaulay, T. B. Walpole, S. H. Dickinson, F. 11. Mai tiwaring,,T. Ward, 11. G. likuicembe, 0. Maule, Fox Wood, Sir Charles Dundas, Admiral Milnes, R Monckton Wood, Colonel T. Dundas, Sir D. Morpeth, Viscount Wortley, J. S. East, Sir J. Morris, David Wynn, C. W. E t wall, Ralph Neville, Ralph PeMita; Q. C. Newdegate, N. Frewen, C. 11. Nichol', J. G.askell, J. M. O'Brien, A. S. TELLERS. Tanen, H. Hill, Lord MATCUS MINORITY-NOES, 14. Aglionby, H. Hume, Joseph Wakley, Thomas Collett, John M'Taggart, Sir J. Williams, W. Currie, R. Molesworth, Sir W. D'Eyncourt, T. Osborne, Ralph TILLERS. Escott, Bickham Roebuck, J. A. Philips, Mark Ewart, William Thornely, Thomas Horsman, E. First Clause (Repeal of repugnant Enactments, and power of former Acts extended to this Act) :—Motion made, and Question put, " That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bilk" The Committee divided: — MAJORITY—AYES, 128. Acland, Sir T. Gore, Montague Newdegatc, C. N. Adderley, C. B. Goulburn, Henry Nicholl, John Antrobus, Edmund Graham. Sir James Norreys, Lord Austen, Colonel Grey, Sir G. . Norreys, Sir D. Heine, Walter Grogan, E. O'Brien, A. 5. Bannerman, A. Grosvenor. Lord R. Ossuiston, Lord liateson, Thomas Raiford, sir it. Palinerston. Via. Bennet, Philip Hailyburton, Lord Parker. John Bentinck, Lord G. Halsey, T. P. Patten, J. W. ientinek, Lord H. Hamilton, J. H. Philipps, Sir R. Berkeley, Captain Hamilton, G. A. Plumridge, Captain Bernal, Ralph Hamilton, Lord C. Price, Sir Robert Blackburne, J. I. Hatton, Captain Protheroe, E. Itorthwick, Peter Hawes, Benjamin Reid, Colonel Bowles, Admiral Henley, J. W. Rendlesham, Lord Broadley, H. Herbert, Sydney Rich, Henry Buller, Charles Hildyard, T. B. Richards. Richard Carew, W. P. Hill, Lord E. Round, C. G. Chaplin, W. J. Hobhouse, Sir J. Russell, Lord John Cholmondeley, H. Hope, Alexander Russell, Lord C. Clerk Sir George Howard, Henry Russell, J. D. Clive, Viscount Inglis, Sir R. H. Rutherturd. A. Codrington, Sir W. Jervis, Sir Jam Seymour, Lord Colebrooke, Sir T. Kemble,, H. Sheridan, R. B. Craig, W. G. Labouchere , Henry Smith, R. V. Cripps, William Langston, J. LI Somerset, LorcliG. Dalmeny, Lord Law, C. E. Somerville. Sir W. Deedes, W. Lefroy, Anthony Spooner, Richard Denison, J. E. Legh, G.•C. Stuart, John Dick, Q. Le Marchant, Sir D. Strutt, Edward Dickinson, F. F. Lemon, Sir Charles Tollemache, John Duckworth, Sir J. Liddell, H. T. Towneley, John Dundas, Admiral Lowther* Colonel Tyrrell, Sir J. T. Dundas, Sir David Macaulay, T. B. Vivian, J. E. Du Pre, C. G. Mainwaring , T. Vyse, H. East, Sir J. B. Manners, Lord C. Walpole, S. H. Easthope, Sir John Maule, Fox Ward, H. G. Egerton, W. T. Meynell, Captain Wood, Sir Charles Ellice, Edward Miles, P. W. S. Wortley, J. S. Evans, Sir De Lacy Morpeth, Viscount 'Wynn. C. W. Ferguson, Sir R. Morris, David Fitzmaurice, W. Mundy, E. Miller TILLERS. Frewen, C. H. Neeld, Joseph Tufnell, Henry Fuller, A. E. Neville, Ralph RM. Lord M. MINORITY-NOES, 25. Aglionby, H. A. Ewart, William Ricardo, J. L. Brotherton, Joseph Forster, M. Roebuck J. A. Clay, Sir W. Hindley, C. Thornely, T. Cleinents, Viscount HOTSMAII, Edward Trelawny, J. S. Currie, Raikes Humphery, Aid. Wakley, T. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Molesworth, Sir W. Duncan, George Pattison, James TELIAZ3. Duncornbe T. Peche ll, Ca p tain Collett, John Escott, Bi ckhani Philips, Mark Hume, Joseph Etwall, Ralph Pryse, Pryse Second Clause (Number of Lords Spiritual not to be in creased) :"—Moticn made, and Question put, " That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill." The Committee divided : hi AJORITY—AYES, 111. Acheson. Viscount Ewart, William Norreys, Sir D. Aciand, Sir T. Ferguson,lColonel O'Brien, A. Stafford Aglionby, H. A. Ferguson, Sir R. O'Connell, M. J. An son, Colonel Forster, Matthew Ossuiton, Lord Paeke, C W. 10.1 4 nt ue ro , b vr tim al , Edmund o Fr ib e s w o o n n , , T C . . m li . . Palmerston, Viscount Bannerman A. Gore, Montague Parker, John Bentinck. Lord G. Grey, Sir G. Philipps, Sir R. Bentinck, Lord IL Grosvenor, Lord It. Price, Sir R. Berkeley, Captain Hallybarton, Lm'd Pryse, Pryse Bernal, Ralph Hamilton. Lord C. Repton, G. W. Blackstone, W. S. Hastie, Archibald Ricardo, J. L. Borthwick, P. Hatton, Captain Rich. Henry Bouverie, E. P. Hawes, field. Richards, Richard Bowles, Admiral Hindley, Charles Ross, David It. Bramston, T. W Hobhouse, Sir John Russell, Lord J. Brotherton, J. Hodgson, F. Russell, Lord C. Brown, W. Hope, A. Russell, J. D. Buller, Charles Howard, Henry Rutherfurd, A. Byng, G. S. Hume, Joseph Seymer, H. K. Cavendish, C. C. Jervis, Sir John Seymour, Sir H. B. Chohnondeloy, H. Jocelyn, Viscount Shell, K. L. Clive, Viscount Kemble, Henry Shelburne, Earl of Col ebrooke. Sir T. Labouchere, Henry Sheridan, R. B. Collins, William Langston, J. IL Smith, Vernon Colvile, C. It. Lascelles, W. S. Somerville, Sir W. Cowper, W F. Letroy, Anthony Strutt, Edward Craig, W. G. Le Merchant, Sir D. Thornely, T. Dalmeny, Lord Lemon, Sir C. Townely, John Denison, J. E. Macaulay, T. Troubridge, Sir E. Duncan, George Mainwaring, T. Wad, 11. G. Dundas, Admiral Manic, Fox Wellesley, Lord C, Dundas, Sir David Meynell, Captain Williams, W. Do Pre, C. G. Morpeth, Viscount Wilshere, T. W. East, Sir J. B. Morris, David Wood, :-ir Charles Easthope, Sir J. Mundy, E. M. TELLERS. Eg rton. W. T. Newry, Viscount Tufnell. 11. Email, Ralph Norreys, Lord Hill, Lord Marcus MINORITY—NOES, 57. Adderley, C. B. Filmer, Sir E. Lindsay, Colonel Archdall, Captain Fitzmaurice, W. M a nners ' Lord C. Bateson, Thomas Forester, G. C. Mil e s, Philip W. S. Bennet, Philip Fuller, A. E. Neeld, Joseph lilackburne, J. I. Gask•ll, J. M. N ev ille, R. Boldero, Henry Goulburn . Henry Nicholl, John Broadley, H. Graham, Sir J. Bu'ler, Sir Y. Raiford, Sir Henry n J. W. Patten Reid. Colonel Carew, W. H. Pole Halsey, T. P. Clements, Viscount Hamilton, J. H. Round, C. Clerk, Sir"Gl. Hamilton, G. A. Spooner. R. Clifton, J. T. Henley, J. W. Stuart, J. Tollemache, J. Codrington, Sir W. Herbert, .Sidney Corry, H. Hildyard, T. B. Tyrrell, Sir J. Crippe, William Hill, Lord E. Horsman, Edward Vivian, J. E. Vyse, Howard Deedes, W. Hope, G. W. Newdegate. C. N. Dickinson, F. H. TELLIES. Duckworth, Sir J. Hotham, Lord Duncombe, 0. Inglis, Sir R. Law, Hon. E. C. Egerton, Sir P. Legh, G. C. Wortley, S. Walpole, Spencer NIGHT BALLOON ASCENTS AT VAUXHALL GARDENS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SIR,—I have been a little surprised to find that whilst the denunciations ag a i ns t t h e nig ht balloon exhibiti ons at Vauxhall-gardens h ave b een dealt out with emphatic and unmerciful energy, yet that little labo ur has been bestowed in endeavo ur i ng to convince the understanding by adducing facts in corr o b orat i on of positive statem ents and weighty charges. The case to my own mind seem ing simply to resolve itself into this—that a balloon in the air, as well as several moving mortals and inanimate things, b ecame injured d ur i ng a storm of thun der and lightning on Tuesday week last. The disaster, which happened between heaven and earth, seems so horrible to contemplate, that one is apt to tremble at the thought, and to be loud in outcry against the repetition of the hazard ; but since this misfortune is pretty well unpre cedented and remarkable few mishaps can be aught t at night. As well, I humbly presume, m i g ht we attempt to demonstrate that it is " perilous f o olery" to wal k, r ide , or sit still, because persons, in one o r all of these positions, have been struck with lightning, or subjected e in the air forward to shrive the danger of a voyag expect that as one of our brethren in arms had turned in consequence to a narrow escape. Now, Sir, I did Queen's evidence and admitted his folly (though, by the with the principles of aerostation) , way, he styled himself originally more or less acquainted seen specified something like a few that we should have solid reasons and interesting statistics to clear up the matter in the esti [nation of the scientific world without the shadow of a doubt. But this, Sir, I believe to be impossible, for, although a vast number of nig ht ascents with fireworks have h beaevne am a de d e d d during the an d certainly not more than one or two of a fatal charac ter. Feeling past forty years, few acci dents we a ppeared on the Waterloo- Feeling convinced of the s afety of a night ascent made under fair and favourable ciroumstances, I promised, in the presence of severalgentlemen_of the press at VanX hall, that I would secomPsny. Mr. h Gypson again, and immense assem bl age of distinguished join in the honour of disproving b t ic e b correctness of a host of ungenerous insinuations w . have been pro. amidst a of every Accordingly per gparoguantedd.befor an ilosophers, and eminent visitors, practical ph .„. . with men, on Thursday evening East Ana, niTt pride do I say i f t a , cti w o e n, as a c n e d nd fl e n d all to y roar of hearty *th cheers, displaying the fire wor ks th m e delight safety and satis thousands in son in the Royal property , wiet".l`. is scratch a bruise, or the least casualty. As on_ I r a C l. worth a thousand a r j e e t s ur ti e n a e l d ly, t? arguments or three volume s of p_ediFtions, I hope you will give these hasty remarks publicity, for they record an seronautio achievement that . was performed coolly and successfully when some portion of the press had not ed to hear of a fatal termination to a pleasing sight.—l remain, HENRYy•our obedient servant, ceased to thunder its censures, and when H COXWELL. th e prou d o j u i :l a d i h s ay ti p n p c- The long talked of sale by auction of Sh akspere's house at Stratford - on -Aron is this day announc e d i n our owner n_l on, for written columns, by Mr. Ro bins, who h as been se l ected by the representatives of tion of transferring th is singularly to a new proprietor. A wide field is offered to the auc tioneerin " fancy's Sketch; " the style of th e advertisement to dinu l is, to n ou spirit, and we have n o doubt the descripti on a b out to be published of this uniq ue p ro p erty will be i nteresting to everybody. ALLRMING FIRS Ar Patmco.—Yesterday morn ing, at four o'clock , a n alarmii g fire broke out at 73, Vauxhall Bridge-road , Pimlico, in the occupation of Mr. Soane, and had it not been so o pp ort unely discovered, a ithelarte opin ion , loss of life would doubtless have taken place. It com menced under the stairs in the kitchen, an d rapidly extended to the top of the house. The engines of the London Brigade and West of England Company were prompt in their attendance, and the firem en h av i ng set to work most voro usly, they soon got the ma s t ery over the flaws. he damage by fire and water, how ever, is cosidersble. would be the oost of a Bishop of Cornwall ? It would no doubt be equal to if not more than 4,000/. per annum. Now, this sum would be sufficient to raise the minimum ircomes of all the clergy in Cornwall to the amount of 1001 pi , r annum. Sir G. GREY said that as the propo.ition for a bishop of the county of Cornwall was not }et before the House, it would not be thought necessary for him to follow the Honourable Baronet who had just sat down in his argu ments upon that point. With respect to the necessity of the appointment of a bishop for Manchester, he thought a clear case had been made out for such appointment by the fact of the great increase of the population of the see of Chester, and not merely of general population, but of members of the Church of England, and the vast increase which had taken place in the number of the places of worship and of the working clergy. Dr. NICHOLL said that some very exaggerated statements had been made in the course of the debate with respect to the expenditure on the palace of the Bishop of Ripon, the one advanced by the Election Com missioners had been only about 1,2001. instead of 54,000/. as stated by Hon Members. Mr. B. ESC )TT complained that the real question at issue in this case, had not been adverted to by the Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home Department, which was, whether an increase of the po pulation required a corresponding increase of the number of bishops? Mr. HUME said that he had repeated again and again, and would repeat again and again, till he had obtained an answer to his objection, that this measure was a flagrant breach of compact. Lord J. RUSSELL denied that this was a breach of compact. A settlement had been made some years since on the subject. but there was nothing in that settlement to prevent the Government at any future time from propos ing a measure similar to the present. At'ter a few words from Mr. HoasMAN and Mr. COLLETT, strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment l4 Against it Majority —72 The amendment was consequently lost. Mr. V. SMITH then moved the following amend ment:—That in page 4, line 2, of the preamble, the words " so soon as conveniently might be, three other additional bishoprics," should be omitted. What. he would ask, would be the case in a future Parliament, if these words were allowed to remain part of the preamble? Why, that these new bishoprics would be appointed ; and, according to the views of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester, the bishops at present ap pointed were not sufficiently occupied. Sir J. GRAHAM—Not overburdened with labour. Mr V. S MIT El—Well, that being he case, he thought there were other points which should occupy their at tention before they proceeded to increase the number of the Episcopal body, such as giving the bishops addi tional powers over the clergy. He was also of opinion that the House should be influenced by the recommen dations of the Ecclesiastical Commission. That Com mission was of opinion that the spiritual destitution of the people was to be removed by an increase in the number of chapels, and of the parochial clergy. And he (Mr. V. Smith) was at a loss to know how this re commendation would be carried out by an increase of three in the number of the Bpiscopal body. After quoting the evidence of the Bishop of London, in favour of this view, he proceeded to say that the Noble Lord had acted wrong in acceding to the suggestion of the Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for Dorchester, in not postponing the preamble, and also contrary to pre cedent. In his opinion it would give rise to a discussion upon the preamble on every clause. After a few words from Lord CLIVE, Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that his object in in serting these words was, that the course of the Govern ment might be generally known ; but as they were not intended to pledge any future Parliament, he thought the words might be as well omitted.—(Hear, hear.) After a few words from Sir R. INGLIS, Mr, AGLIONBY thought that the cause of not post poning the preamble was neither inexpedient nor in convenient. _ _ V , 14.4 • • 41•11-..-" J• Mr. WYNN thought the alteration consented to by the Noble Lord, was a judicious one, and he trusted the House would proceed with the consideration of the clauses, and any further alterations in the preamble might be made afterwards. Sir J. GRAHAM was of opinion that, generally speaking, it was judicious to postpone the preamble ; but with regard to the present Bill, he thought that the course was not convenient, and the turn which the debate had taken, confirmed him in that opinion. Mr. HUME regretted that as the Noble Lord had consented to throw out three parts of the Bill, he did not also consent to throw out the remaining portion, namely, the Bishopric of Manchester. As it was, he thought that the word " forthwith" should be omitted, and the words " till such time as the two sees should be united," substituted. Mr. M. PHILIPS bad intended to offer this opposi tion, but was not certain that this was the proper time to do so. Mr. ROEBUCK said that although the recommenda tions of the Commissioners were mere matters of recital, and might be objected to by a clause at the end, yet, as the speediest way of settling the question, he thought that Hon. Members should, if they saw fit, object to each of the recommendations as they were read. Mr. LAW thought that the discussion should be taken when the whole question came to be discussed on the after part of the B 11. Mr. ROEBUCK said that the Noble Lord could no longer depend upon any of e of the recommendations of the commission, for by throwing out so much of the recital he had altered in a very material degree the character of the recommendations. Sir G. GREY said that the Bill would have been complete even without the introduction of these, and, therefore, the objection of the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath was of no force. After some conversation, the portion of the preamble under consideration was agreed to. The remaining portion of the preamble was then read and agreed to. On clause 1 being proposed, The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved that the fol lowing words be inserted—" And also any order of her Majesty in Council relating to the said union (of the sees of Bangor and St. Asaph) and of the new see of Man chester." Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that as it was his inten don to raise the question on the second clause, he should not then offer any opposition. After a few words from Mr. HUME and Mr. B. OSBORNE, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL read the order in Council of 1839 relating to this subject, and commented upon it. The amendment was afterwards agreed to. Some conversation of rather a technical character arose between the Legal Gentlemen on both sides of the House, respecting the remaining portion of the clause, which was terminated by Mr. HUME, who said it was perfectl . s absurd to see so much uncertainty upon a clause which ought to be framed in the clearest manner. In order to get rid of the difficulty, he should object to the clause altogether. The Hon. Member then moved that the clause be omitted. Strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House divided, when there appeared— For ►he clause Against it __ . . -103 -ed LAW AMENDMENT BILL. Lord J. RUSSELL then moved the order of the day for the consideration of the Lords' amendments to the above Bill. He said there was one clause, with respect to old persons, which the Lords had omitteti. To that amendment, considering the general feeling which had been manifested in the House with respect to it, he should disagree.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to another amendment, relative to the admission of rate-payers to the meetings of the boards of guardians, as the main principles of the poor-law were not involved, he thought the amendment might be agreed to. On the other, however, he considered the better course would be to disagree with the Lords' amendment.—(Hear.) Mr. WAKLEY moved the adjournment of the de bate. Mr. ETWALL was surprised that the Government so readily gave up this clause; he begged to negative the motion of the Noble Lord. Sir G. GREY said it would be better to leave it to the discretion of the board of guardians, as to the ex clusion of strangers from their meetings. Mr. WAKLEY thought it would be better to ex punge h sth clauses, and then upon an agreement with the Lords, one of them might be retained and the other expunged. Mr. BROTHERTON had acted as a guardian, and he was aware of the objection that the poor entertained to exposing their affairs to the rate-payers, and if it was for that alone he would vote against it. Captain PECHELL said that it the press and public were admitted, there would be no more such scenes enacted as had taken plane at Andover. Mr. P. BORTH WICK was utterly inaudible in the gallery. After a few words from Mr.ETWALL, The House divided, and there appeared— For the amendment Against it Majority against the amendment —7o The Lords' amendments to the Irish Poor-law Admi nistration Bill were agreed to. Polling Places (Ireland) Bill, Lords' amendments,were agreed to. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at One o'clock, till Three this day (Tuesday). COURT CIRCULAR. The Qaeeti and his Royal Highness Prince Albert, accompanied by his Royal Highness Prince Waldemar of Prussia, walked yesterday morning in the pleasure ground and plantations of Osborne. Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, the Princess Royal, and the Princess Alice went yesterday morning to the sea-beach, and took pony and walking exercise. Her Royal Highness the Princess Helena was taken an airing yesterday forenoon. The Rev. Mr. Protheroe had the honour of joining the royal dinner circle at Osborne, on Sunday. The Duchess of Sutherland and Lady Caroline Leve son Gower have taken their departure from Osborne. His Royal Highness Prince Waldemar, of Prussia, his Excellency the Chevalier Bunsen, his Serene Highness Prince Lowenstein, Baron de Laner, Count Oriole, and Count Groeben, remain at Osborne on a visit to her Majesty. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester, en tertained their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and a select party, at dinner, yesterday evening at Gloucester House. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge visited the Royal Hospital at Chelsea, yesterday. Viscount Duncan, M.P., had an interview with the Chancellor of the Exchequer, yesterday, at his official residence in Downing-street. Cap: sin Fitz-Maurice bad an interview with the Right Hon. T. Milner Gibson yesterday, at the Office of the Board of Ti ade. The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council had a meeting yesterday in the Council Chamber, Whitehall, to give judgment on an appeal from the High Court Ili Admiralty, " Shersby v. limbert," relative to the " Duke of Manchester." The Lords present were the Lord President, the Master of the Rolls, Lord Brougham, and Lord Campbell. Judgment was given by Lord Campbell. The Court then rose. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALLS-'—MoNnev. Some singular fluctuations in the betting against the Hero imparted more than usual interest to the Goodwood Cup betting. It appears that for two or three days re ports of his being lame have been rife at the West end, and that odds, ranging from 6 to 10 to 1, have been laid against him. A more favourable disposition was evinced yesterday, several hundred pounds having been laid out at prices varying from 7 to 2 to 9 to 2, the last bet being 4 to 1. Eryx maintained the position in which he closed at Liverpool. The Wolfdog was backed at 7 and 8 "to 'l,, and Halo, with great spirit, at 10 to 1. Sunbeam was declared not to start, and Fitz-Emilius receded to 40 to 1; in fact, was out of the betting. The betting on the Good wood Stakes was confined to six or eight horses, of which the first five only were in any request. A few bets were made on the St. Leger and Derby, but no change worth speaking of arose. Latest prices:— GOODWOOD STAKES. 7 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Stultz—taken to 2001. 8 to 1 agst Mr. Sainsbury's The Questionable 12 to 1 agat Mr. Isaac Day's Milliner—taken 12 to 1 agst Mr. Elwes's Miss Ells—taken 12 to 1 agat Duke of Richmond's Lothario—taken 20 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Hydrangea—taken 20 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Vampyre 7 , to to 2 1 agat agst L u o r r . d G E . gl H i . n A t i o o n o 's re E ,s ry , 20 to 1 agst Mr. Kimber's Tantivy 000DWOOD OSP. 4 16 to I agst Lord E. Russell' s to 1 agst Mr. J. Day's The Hero—taken Wolf-dog z s Dulcet freely 10 to 1 agst Duke of Rich 16 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Py rr h uses 40 to 1 agst Mons. Aumont' s tzt-hAnFilLast ST . 9 to 4 ag s t M r. Pedle.y's L Cossack 6 to 1 agst L or d Eglinton's Van loso nTrompßd Richmi a —taken 10 to 1 agst D u k e o f Richmond' 20 to 1 agst Mr. Pedley's Foreclosure 30 to 1 agst the D u k e of d art 1000 to 10 agst Mr. S. L. Fox's Executor —do. DERBY. 25 to 1 agst Mr. B. Green's Flatcatcher—taken 25 to 1 agst Mr. Mostyn's Surplice—taken en 28 to 1 agst Col. Peel's Sesostris—taken 33 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Glendower 40 to 1 agst Mr. B. Green's Beverlac—taken 1000 to 20 agst Mr. Cooper's Slug—taken. T HE WESLEYAN METHODISTS .--On Sunday the annual camp meeting of the City of London Primitive Christians was held on the vacant plot of ground situate between Victoria-street and Clerkenwell-gre en . The meeting commenced at nine o'clock in the morning, a n d continued throughout the day till a late hour in the evening. Prayers, sermons, and hymns followed each other without Atny inOrminion. ELECTION MOVEMENTS. HARWICII.-Mr. Attwood's nominee, Sir Dudley Hill, has canvassed Harwich, and met with most in different success. The good people of this immacu late borough, want more than promising to pay; they require ready money and no credit. ST. ALBAN'S.—The constituency of St. Alban's have been on the alert for candidates, and have been ransacking London in all directions for aspirants to Parliamentary fame. No less than four candidates are already in the field, and yet they want Mr. Salo mon', Mr. Wilks, or any one else to add to the num ber. As yet, the fish will not bite, but the voters hope on. SOUTH LANCASHIRE.—Mr. Entwisle has an nounced himself again a candidate. The injudicious conduct of the fag. end of the League, in repudiating Lord Brackley, has brought this about. Never was the good advice of Mr. Cobden more wanted, than by these meddling gentry at the present time. Rirosz.—Sir James Graham comes in for Ripon. Any candidate for this place, who stands under the family influence, may be announced as coming in, not coming forward. HuLL.—Mr. Baines, Q.C., and Mr. James Clay, will, it is believed, be returned for Hull. YARMOUTH.-Mr. Goldstnid and Mr. R. Bagshaw have the call here. NORTH CHESHIRE.—Mr. Astley, led on by a few restless spirits, will, it is believed, come forward for North Cheshire ; but the great majority of the elec tors, feeling that Mr. Stanley and Mr. Egerton, having been mutually agreed to be supported, upon which ground Mr. Davenport retired, will not break an honourable compact, and Mr. Astley cannot succeed. CAMBRIDGE.-Mr. Hutnfrey, Q.C., has consented to stand for Cambridge on the Conservative interest. There is, however, little fear for the success of the Liberal candidates. STAFFORD.--A new candidate, Mr. Healey, of the Temple, has made his appearance, and has gained many friends. He is a man of first-rate talent and an excellent speaker, and is reported likely to succeed. FROME.-Mr. Bethell, of the Chancery bar, has returned from an inspection of this borough. He is said not to be greatly pleased with his visit. INVERNESS Buaoni.—The following is the address which has been published by Mr. Matheson, of Ardross, to the electors of these burghs : " Gentlemen,—Your present representative in Par liament having announced his intention of not again soliciting your suffrages, I beg to offer myself as a candi date for the honour of representing your burghs. " Having but recently returned among you, after a long absence in the East, I would have hesitated to ob titide myself thus early on your notice, were it not for the very flattering invitations and promises of support which have been spontaneously tendered to me by a large and influential body of your number, embracing in dividuals of all shades of opinion. " Whilst I approve of the principles of free trade, and of :the liberal line of policy pursued by her Majesty's present Ministers, still, if I be so fortunate as to be re turned by you as your representative, it will be my study to pursue an independent course in Parliament, and to support such measures as may seem to tend to the gene ral good, from whatever party they may emanate. My beat services shall at all times be devoted to your local interests; and it will be to me a source of no ordinary gratification to be placed in the proud position I aspire to, by a body of my own fellow-countrymen, and for a district with which I am so closely connected by my per sonal interests as well as by the ties of early friendship and beat attachments. " Unavoidable engagements detain me in London for a short time; but I hope in a few days to be enabled to return to the Highlands, when I shall have the honour of waiting personally on you, and of affording you such explanations of my political sentiments and views as may be required.—l have the honour to be, Gentlemen, your most obedient servant, _ _ " ALEX. MATHESON. " London, June 22, 1847." Mr. Matheson arrived at Inverness on Wednesday, the Bth inset., from London, and commenced his can vass with every prospect of success—there being no opponent in the field. Mr. Matheson was the repre sentative in China for many years of the house of Jardine, Matheson, and Co. FINSBURY. On Saturday last the following address, signed by upwards of 1,000 electors of Finsbury, was presented to Messrs. Duncombe and Wakley:— "TO TIIuMAS SLINGSBY DUNCOMBE AND THOMAS WAKLEY, ESQRS. " We, the undersigned electors of the borough of Finsbury, having now for many years had the benefit of your services as oar representatives in Parliament, and being desirous of marking our unsolicited approval of your past conduct, hereby request you to allow us, without any interference on your part, to take all ne cessary steps to secure your return at the next general election." Messrs. Duncombe and Wakley yesterday returned the.following answer:— " TO THE ELECTORS OF THE BOROUGH OF FINSBURY. "Gentlemen,—We are much gratified by the receipt of a requisition, so numerously and respectably signed as that which we have this day the honour of acknow ledging. Be assur( d that it is not only most satisfac tory to us to find our past political conduct marked by your unsolicited approval,' but that, so long as we are sustaint-d by such honourable and independent proofs of your confidence, we must feel proud of continuing your representatives in Parliament. "In obedience, therefore, to your wishes, we leave the result in your hands, hoping that the example you have placed before the electors of this country may exercise a powerfol.influenee on other independent constituencies. "Pett;e 4 fas to add, that the recollection of your past and present generous:approval of our labours and in tentions can never be obliterated from our minds.—We have the honour to be, Gentlemen, your obedient and faithful servants, " THOMAS S. DUNCOMBE. " THOMAS WAKLEY. " July 19th, 1847." MARYLEBONE ELECTION.—THE BALLOT. The ballot to decide between Lord Dudley Stuart, Mr. Daniel Whittle Harvey, and - Sergeant Shee, took place in accordance with the arrangements which we gave in our paper of yesterday, at Captain Hall's Riding-rooms, Albany-street. It commenced at nine, and terminated at eight P.M., and was attended by no difficulty during the day, though several complaints were heard that letters had not been sent to all the electors. The neigh bourhood during the day exhibited the general features of electioneering excitement. At eight o'clock the doors were closed, and the ballot-boxes removed to un dergo the scrutiny of Messrs. Birkbeck, Everest, and Ridge, who had been appointed as independent parties. Four hours were occupied in this, during which several hundred electors waned with great anxiety inside, while the street was crowded with hundreds more, who were temporarily excluded. At twelve o'clock the candidates and committee entered, and Mr. J. Williams (chairman of the committee of Mr. D. W. Harvey) having been called to the chair, the following result was announced amidst tremendous cheers:— Sergeant Shee Lord D. Stuart 1,250 Mr. D. W. Harvey The doors were then opened, and a general rush soon increased the number of those present to upwards of 2,000, when Mr. D. W. HARVEY rose to address them amidst thunders of applause. He said that in the early stages of the arrangement some controversy had taken place as to the position in which the candidates names should be inserted upon the card. He had asked to be placed last, under the full conviction that the result of the ballot would place him first—(Applause)—and this had been realised beyond his most sanguine expectations ; and gratifying as the result must be to the friends of sincere and unequivocal reforni, there . was a result connected with it even greater than that which had been attained With all the newness of an experiment, and though the management of it was given to persons who it could scarcely be expected could entirely divest themselves of the character of partizans, they had had the great fact established, that the ballot was a system which could be well conducted—(Great cheering)—and that when it should be reduced to a system it would be an admirable one. At the same time there had been evinced through out the ballot a feeling, which he ventured to exores*, when giving as his opinion to the great meetings of the constituency, of the desirableness of this kind of voting, that he considered it more valuable and essential to small constituencies than to one like Marylebone, whose independence was not to be assailed b 3 any means from any quarter. It was a remarkable fact that the greater number of cards placed in the boxes had been with exultation exhibited to all around, so little were the electors of this great borough disposed to conceal their inclinations.—(Cheers.) But though they had se cured the victory, they ought not to make it—be trusted they adoptedld notm abkyefivit—enadvmtaettdeeer decide e b t o h as e 't was, sincerely anxious for its support and promotion . in it. Unless candidates, degrees they ethey entertained mi g t differ i ff e e f t. r p r i e n el f t et e th v nh e m sa l tido wndiffer entbeenseroef that they should now labour conjointly ive theich ewloeuetlodrdsewfehaot he o e of their indiscretion. He therefore,together the supportferf for common t heprinciples,now thethey eo w m non:ualondndocntahluye cause havestrove o all a w ll h look ethee rtefhfooerr therefore s a he r lo d vp bt from r c eo k m e s r i ht n ha g ims s t a i n m d e th strife, at the hed end embracedthe y a l t,h h e a d o in su view,cause of and the they . Noble would. Lord d ve a n t to t a t k h e e Learned Sergeant would give them the same assistance in on t t h n e e i r o t c h a e u r s e s i a d s e . t_h e tc would n e o er l s. )have So done an had x ionswas fortune h o been r the advancement of the great cause which this borough had served to-day beyond all example, that he should not suffer any views of personal ambition to interfere with the principle.—(Hear.) But he could not suppose that the disposition which had been displayed could r be taken as anything but a herald of success for the future. While he thus disclaimed anything breathing a spirit of hostility to his Noble Friend and the Learned Sergeant, he thought there were circumstances which, as characteristic of the cause and in gratitude to the borough, ought not to be concealed.—(Hear, hear.) They had secured this great result by exertions alto gether of a personal kind.—(Hear, hear.) Individually, he (Mr. Harvey) had not entered one house to canvass one vote.—(Great applause.) He had engaged no canvasser and paid no cab.—(Great applause.) The result was a splendid monument of what free men could do who rightly understood their rights, and had a prin ciple stamped on their minds. He was told that before to-morrow's sun should set there would be proclaimed the names of their opponents. Whether they had to contend with one sturdy knight—(Laughter)—or two, was equally a matt er o f no i mportance if they were true and faithful.—(Cheer s .) For himself, he should be pre pared to give th e on l y earnest—no feeble one—of his sincerity and devotion to the object in which be had etnbarked, by th row i ng o ff those fetters which bound him, which would enable him to cast himself into their arms, and repose th e r e —(T remendous cheers.) Let them permit him to say, wi t h out d we ll ing on any of the various topics which he h a d di scussed in addressing their large meetings, that there was one point with regard to this last subject which ought to be one of the principal motives which would induce them to ernanci pate him from the thraldom in wbich be had been thrown by the contrivances of parties. For the first time in the history of the country was a clause intro duced into an Act of Parliament by which, when made a commissioner of police, he was rendered incapable of being elected. The fact was, that he was not ap pointed by the Crown. but chosen, out of other candi dates, by the City. The Hon. Gentleman having pro ceeded to expose the dangers of a Tory policy, when the Cory candidates appeared, concluded his address, which was warmly cheered throughout, by stating that he was sure that what the herald proclaimed to-day of their power, was but a presage of their own omnipotence. G rd D. STUART, in a brief address, gracefully with drew his pretensions, and congratulated his oppo nent.-4 Cheers.) There were loud cries for Mr. Sergeant Shee, but Mr. fvimey explained that he was kept away unavoidably; and Sir B. HALL made several attempts to address the meeting, which were very ungraciously received. ciry OF LONDON ELECTION-MEETING IN THE WARD OF FARRINGDON WITHOUT. Last evenlng an extremely numerous meeting of the inhabitants of the ward of Farring don Without took place in the Farringdon Hall, King ' s Arms-yard, Hol born-hill, to hear the opinions of three of the Liberal candidates—Mr. Pattison, M.P., Baron Lionel de Roths schild, and Sir George Larpent, each of whom, particu iarly the first, was loudly cheered on entering the hall. Mr. WALKER, who in the course of his address said he was a Dissenter, was voted to the chair. He trusted that the electors would not be influenced by individual character, but would support those candidates whose principles tended to promote the welfare of the commu nity at large. Although he differed in some points from Lord John Russell, still he saw so much to be approved of in the Noble Lord's long public career that he would still support him.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to Baron de Rothschild, he found no reasonable objection to him—no tine could object to him in the relations of private life, and he did net see why any difference should arise in public matters.—(Hear, hear.) Who ever read the history of Christianity would see that our hitherto treatment of the Jews was disgraceful, and he hoped soon to see those laws broken down which pre vented the sons of Abraham from becoming their poli tical friends and advisers. The worthy chairman con cluded by eulogising the public conduct of Mr. Pattison, M.P., and Sir George Larpent. Mr. PATTIsoii, M.P., rose, and was received with im mense cheers. He said that as his speeches for the last eight or ten days, addressed to the electors of the City, and containing expressions of his public principles, had been published in the djfferent newspapers, he could say but very little more than he had already said. He would ' remind the meeting of his votes in Parliament. He had voted for the ballot—(Cheers)—for triennial Parlia ments—(Cheers)—for household suffrage—(Cheers)— for abolition of the punishment of death—(Cheers)—he had voted for the repeal of the worst part of the Reform 13i11, the rate-paying clause—(Cheers)—and he believed that his noble colleague, Lord J. Russell, would, if he had time, in the present session, have passed a measure to nullify that clause.—(Cheers.) For his other votes he referred the electors to the published lists of divisions in the House of Commons. He would persevere in up holding his old principles, and he hoped that they would get rid in time of the drags that still lay heavily on the trade of the country. He felt great satisfaction in hav ing for his colleague the Prime Minister of the country, who was not perfect—no man was—but who was he (Mr. Pattison) believed, as honest a man as ever breathed.—(Loud and long continued cheering.) Who, asked Mr. Pattison energetically, will you get to re place him ?—(" No one.") Sir Robert Peel is a great man, and has done great good to the country, but his party is nothing—(" It will be- less")—and he could not now form an Administration.—(Hear, hear.) Will my friends have Lord George Bentinck?—(" No, no.") He is the head of a third party, and J do not think that my friends will support them.—(" No, no.") The other candidates, Baron de Rothschild and Sir George Larpent were known to the electors through their speeches. He hoped they were Radicals, as he was. He was a Ra dical—that is, a person opposed to everything radically bad, and fi iendly to everything radically good.— (Cheers.) The lion. Member then eulogized Baron de Rothschild, who, he said, was a friend to religious liberty, and he hoped that by electing him they would get rid of Jewish disabilities, one of the last, together with church rates, objectionable laws on the statute book.—(Cheers.) He firmly believed that if they elected his excellent friend they would get rid of that monstrous stain on the Legislature of the country.—(Hear, hear.) Was not Baron de Rothschild a most charitable man?— (Hear, hear.) Whenever he (Mr. Pattison) knew of a case of distress, Baron de Rothschild was the very first pron he applied to for assistance. During the recent and still prevailing distress in Ireland, Baron de Roths child not only subscribed most munificently, but placed two steam-boats, at his own expense, at the service of those conveying relief to Ireland.—(Cheers.) He hoped the electors would back Baron de Rothschild, whose family he would back for charity against the families of a doz noblemen.—(Cheers.) The Baron DE RoTHSCHILD, on rising, was received with loud hurrahs. He said, that as their verhable chair man could see no objection to his being a candidate, it was equally clear, from the kind demonstration now dis played by the meeting, that they did not see any objec tion to him.—(Cheers.) At the suggestion of many of his Liberal friends he had come forward, as they thought that a trial for civil and religious liberty should be under taken through and by him—that they should have an opportunity, not only of expressing their opinions on the subject, but of proving them by public acts.—(Hear, hear.) On those grounds he claimed their support. The Hon. Candidate then expressed himself favourable to free trade, showed its good effects, and said if Liberal Members were returned._ the system would be followed up to the greatest and most beneficial extent. As reli. gious questions were now more agitated than any other, he begged to say that he was decidedly against church endowment, and would oppose for such purpose any grant of money from the public purse.—(Cheers.) He would endeavour to support the progress of education without any religious interference, and would pay the greatest attention to the improvement of the franchise. A large meeting would take place the next day, when every question would be fully discussed, and when he would be prepared to answer every querist, as he was prepared now, and at which meeting he hoped to see public opinion as great, and greater, in his favour than ever.—(Cheers.) 1 Sir G. LARPENT then addressed the meeting. iHe came forward as a merchant of the city of Lond on, profes.ing liberal principles, to solicit the honour of bng chosen one of its representatives. He was a friend of free tradh in the widest extent of the term. With're spect to social improvements, connected with the poor laws and the suffrage, they should receive his patient attention. He would support reduction of taxation, revision of the Excise laws, and would vote for the removal of the wind ow -t ax . H e considered a taxi on property right, and fair, and just, but an income=tax was neither right, fair, nor just.—(Cheers.) He consi dered church-rates highly obnoxious. Persons should not be forced against their conscience to support the Church establishment, but it should not be allowed to go to ruin. On the question of religion, he was oppeleed to all endowment whatever taken from the general funds of the country. All who contributed to the taxation of the country had a right to share in the benefits Of public education. No system of public education should receive his support which in the slightest degree inter fared with the conscience of any man.—(Hear, heir.) Those were the opinions by which he meant to stand or fall, and which he would support, if elected.—( sir s. ) Baron DE ROTHSCHILD here withdrew , had another meeting to attend. saying that he Mr. PATTisosi, M.P.—You must also excuse m y going. I am going to the House of Commons to vote against ,the Bishop of Manchester.—(Load w eiltirdeens parated, hang The meeting shortly af expressed the fullest confidence t o the three candidates. BALLOON ASCZNT.—Mr. G reen, Ms. GRE":- LL of o w, has secur e d a prescr i ptive sa fety in everythi ng whose multiplicity that relates to aero stat i on, made anot h er ascent last evening from Cremorne gar d ens in the presence of some thousands of spectators. many of whom were persons of rank and fashion. He was ac companied by his brother, as first-lieutenant of the aer i a l ship, and his passeng ers in the car and on the hoop were—Captain de Bsthe, of the Fusilier Guards ; Captain Cust, of the Grenadier Guards ; Mr. Winds or Heneage, Mr. Lindsey Antrobus, Mr. H. M'Calmont, Mr. T. Little, Mr. Rein, Mr. Spencer, and Mr. Williams. Lord Clanwilliam was to have been of the party, but every seat was filled before his Lordship arrived, and he was consequently left behind. The huge machine was wafted gracefully in the direction of Hounslow ; the wind blowing, from the east. The gardens were crowded with company, who after the ascent adjourned to view th e d ramat i c representations, and partake of the good things in the numerous refreshment-rooms. NEW ITALIAN OPERA HOUSE, COYENT-GARDEN." -- The produ c ti on o f " A nna B olena " at t h e new house (0 noble performance) i s di st i ngu i s h e d by 1331 the capital scenery by Grieve, w or t hy of note, particula rly in terior of a go rgeous T u d or hall, which is e cellently well painted. If the main arches mere the obtusely pointed instead o f semi-circular, we should of the recent Diver an objection. The scenery ie e tissements, and the artisticalgrue pings, call for praise. building, Mr. Albano's ar e In respect of sound, in this rangements have been -most su ccessful , uep every note is , heard pure and distinct.--i A , 17 WO V s. - -"-,l7 — _ - -: I . / '.',.l'. /_.V 16:;-1 4 1 PI ../ -..—• "'el ^~~ r., ~ ~~~, ST. LU t e- Xs4 , :k r --_r - -- -914 - - 4. -,,----- SUSPENSION OF THE Cillft Ap il 4. SECOND PUL,NE JUDGE Oil"'S .I, By an arrival from St. Lucia, on Thursday, we have received a file of the Palladium, of the 24th ultimo. This paper contains the official notification of the sus p usion of Chief Justice Reddie, and of Mr. Lenger toe Second Puisne Judge of the Royal Court. The notice of the Chief Justice's suspension is in the fol lowing words:— Chief Justice Reddie, Judge of the Royal Court of this island, having been charged by Colonel Torrens, whilst in the administration of the government of St. Lucia, with the authorship of two letters, sign ed 1 " The Shade of Polycarp," published in the Aide. i.endent Press newspaper, and which are libels upon the Lord Bishop of the diocese, and the Chief Justice having been called upon to make his defence in writing, has not satisfactorily disproved the above charge, nor exculpated himself from having had any connexion with the paper in question. Ilia Excellency the Governor-in-Chief does, therefore, and in consequence of instructions from her Majestyt's Go vernment, suspend him from the office of Chief Justice of the Island of St. Lucia, until her Majesty's further pleasure be known. Mr. Leuger's suspension is given as folllows : Mr. Leuger, Second Puisne Judge, having been charged by Colonel Torrens, with the authorship of a series of shamefully scurrilous French articles, which appeared in The Indep en d ent P ress newspaper of this Island, and 'l r. Leu ger , h av i ng refused to deny the charge or to exculpate himself, his Excellency the Governor-in- Chief, in consequence of instructions from her Ma jesty's Government, has suspended him from his office of Second Puisne Judge of the Royal Court of St. Lucia, until her Majesty's further pleasure be known. Both these individuals embarked tor England on Tuesday morning, per Eagle, proceeding to St. Thomas. It is remarkable that Mr. Reddie has been suspended `'or his " Poly .arp" libels against the Bishop, and (as may be seen by the Martinique Almanac), he left St. Lucia on the festival of St. Polycarp, the 27th April! The Solicitor-General, the Hon. Louis .Lacasee, h as been named in the place of Judge Reddie, uroi h er Majesty's pleasure be known. The situation was offered, we understand, to Mr. Hanley, but he declined, preferring to await the chance of being permanently named from home, rather than risk the humiliation of possibly only holding the office for two months provisionally. The Governor-General left St. Lucia on Saturday night, at ten o'clock. The island was enjoying beautiful crop weather, and every one seemed to breathe a new air now that the great Rhadamanthus is gone!—Grenada Chronick, May 1. (From the Independent Press,) Government Office, May 27, 1847. J. G. Porter Atthill, Esq., Attorney-General of this Island, having been charged by Colonel Torrens, whilst administering the government, with being concerned in libelling the Government through the medium of the Independent Press newspaper ; and having been called upon, and had one month to exculpate himself, and having failed to do so, his Excellency the Governor-in Chiet, in conformity to instructions from her Majesty's Government, does therefore suspend him from the office .f Attorney-General until her Majesty's further pleasure be known. His Excellency the Governor has further directed that the following extract and dispatch from the Secretary of State be made public. By command, W. HANLEY, Colonial Secretary. Majority - th, _ne clause was ien egret . to. On clause 2 being proposed, . N 1 r. S. WORTLEY rose to move the amendment of which takhad given notice. The question they bad now t . cot,: ider was, whether it was an injurious precedent they were about to make in depriving the bishop they were going to create of all the rights and dignities which his predecessors in the Church had enjoyed. The only reason he had heard fur not following out the arrange ment was that which had fallen from the Noble Lord— namely, that, on account of striking out the words ob jected to in the preamble, be felt authorised to pre vent the Bishop of Manchester from taking his seat in the House of Lords. lie appealed to the Noble Lord whether it was worth while to introduce this infrac tion on what he would call the constitution, and thus to set a precedent which might inconveniently and ejuriously, at a future period, be acted upon. He put it to the Noble Lord whether it would not be better to say, a s t h ere was to b e a new bi shop, w h o district of whi c h Manchester migh t b e was to hav e con t ro l over the cl er g y of the populous the rights and privileges wasmightbishopshouldbeadeocit ob other bishops? invested with all to mix i n p u bli c life g with state smen , so t h at bishopstheir sh p o r u o l ce a db d e i called aga i a atanytime conduct of bishops . f H or econtended tha t modern case it should be needed bishop gave him ' times presented no occa sion * The seat possessed :by the the greater power of greaterbein g influence among his clergy, and feeling d i ssatis faction at admitted that inconvenience in his ministry. He bishops being obliged to ten"'arose from the fact of remain in town during the sit ting of Parliament ; but thi s n u c i o e nvenience amounted to intraction of the very little in comparison with con stitution which the proposed course. would commit. H e e o u r l e te b: should, therefore, move th at t TTORNEY-GE NERAL hu def e e l n a d u ed se s th hd struck The out. A r e mnr. fLthA e Wcted to the claus e , as being un °natl . tio oclaoubsj e tutional. He hoped the Noble Lord who had b rought forward this Bill, and by it w as about to confer a benefi t on the Church and the cou ntr y , woul d not be niggardl y in his gift, but make it wo r t h y of their acce p t ance. Lord CLIVE asked every Member who felt an inte rest in the spiritual welfare of the community, to support the Government on this Bill, as by doing so they would have four bishops instead of one. Mr. NEWDEGATE objected to the clause. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the Bill had passed the House of Lords, where there were bishops to object if the Church was likely to suffer by the exclusion of this bishop from the House, and as they had agreed to it he did not see that any reasonable objection could be made to it, for no one could doubt that they were, at least, competent to give an opinion on the matter. He could not but agree with the Hon. and Learned Gentle man who had introduced the amendment, that, according to the constitution and the law, a bishop, upon his being created such, had a right to his writ of summons to the House of Lords. No man disputed that. But it did not follow that if Parliament should give the right to the Crown to appoint to a new bishopric, the Parlia ment could not attach to that appointment any condi tion which it might see fit. If the Crown were called upon, ex debitejustitiez, to call all bishops to Parliament, there would at once be an end to the question of prero gative ; but he contended that it was not invaded by the clause under their consideration. But then, said the Hon. and Learned Member for the University of Cam bridge, raising another objection, the provision con tained iu the clause was one not affecting the now bishopric only, but it went to curtail the rights and pri vileges which had attached to old bishoprics for bun dreds of years. No doubt that right of sitting in Parlia ment had existed since the time of Henry VIII. ; but the question was, whether, under all the circumstances of the case, the provision contained in the Bill was not expedient both for the Church and for the country? With respect to that question, the Noble Lord the Mem ber for Shropshire had laid down the true policy which ought to be pursued. He (Lord J Russell) believed that if the interests of the Church required it, they ought to increase the number of bishops; but he also believed that, if in that question was involved the pos session of further temporal power by the Church—if they could not add to the spiritual force of the Church, without also increasing her temporal power, then natu rally, and he believed justly, objections would be raised up to such a scheme. He said justly, because the Church of Scotland and the great body of the Dissenters in England would have a perfect right to say that all laws affecting them were obliged to be considered in the House of Lords; therefore they objected to any increase of the power of the Church of England in that branch of the Legislature. The scheme would be objected to because of the temporal advantages which it would give to one body of Christians over all others not in communion with her, and he would consider that argument a fair one. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman had said there was no precedent for the plan. He considered that the precedent was !formed in the case of the bishops in Ireland. By a system of rotation those bishops el joyed a seat in the House of Lords for a certain period, and then for a certain nnmber of years that privilege ceased. But, said the lion. and Learned Gentleman, it is the same with the temporal Peers. No doubt they were in the same position, but he did not think that that affected in any degree the position which he had taken. We s ee that that provision takes place is Ireland, and does not tend to the injury of the Church in Ireland. For these reasons he was of opinion that the Committee should adopt the Bill as it then stood. He believed that it was more for the advantage of the Church to adopt it as it stood than it would be to introduce the Bishop of Man chester as an additional bishop into the House of Lords. He agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman that if he were contented not to contemplate any increase at any time in the number of bishops, he thought the argu ment might remain, and that there should be no intro duction of new bishops into the House of Lords ; and being or that opinion, he did not think' that they ought now to make an exception which might never again be altered or liable to variation. He believed that the scheme now proposed was the best, and he hoped, there fore, that the Committee would agree to the clause. Sir T. D. ACLAND thought the creation of a new bishopric would be attended with many serious imprac ticabilities. However he would accept it as a sort of instalment of that which they ought long ago to have had. Mr. ROEBUCK objected to the clime. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL thought that it would be the best thing that could be done to meet the spiritual exigencies of this country to create the new bishopric, bur he did not see how the spiritual exigencies of the community would be met by giving the proposed bishop a seat in the House of Lords. He thought that giving it to him would be more likely to distract his attention from the care of his flock., Mr. AGLIONBY supported the retention of the clause. The House then divided, and there appeared— For the clause Against it Majority On our return to the gallery, Lord JOHN RUSSELL was stating that, with respect to the third and fourth clauses ' he thought they might well be posstponed.—(Hear.) The third related to the endowment of deans of York and Salisbury, and the fourth to the endowment of archdeaconries. Clause 5 was agreed to. The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the report was ordered to be brought up this day (Tuesday.) THE LORDS' AMENDMENTS TO THE POOR. (EXTRACT.) " Saint Lucia, Z No. 20. " Downing-street, MarchlS 47. "Sir,—l have received your dispatches of t iat es and numbers noted in the margin (Nos. 6 and 7, 12th and 20th Jan., 1847), with their several enclosures, relating to the conduct of the Chief Justice and the Attorney- General of Saint Lucia. " I have to acquaint you, in answer, that none of the public servants in St. Lucia can be permitted to retain offitTs which they hold during her Majesty's pleasure, if it should appear that they have been in any way parties to the publication of the gross libels which have been published in the Independent Press, or even if they should be shown to have been concern♦ d in a paper in which such articles were inserted. To allow any persons h..lding such offices thus to countenance and support such systematic attacks upon the person administering the Government, would be entirely inconsistent with the maintenance of that official subordination - which is essential for the good of the public service. But this observation applies with much greater force to per sons holding such high offices in the administration of justice as those of Chief Justice and Attorney-General. It is their duty to enforce the law, and, as part of it. the law of libel. It is, therefore, a most flagrant violation of that duty that they should themselves con tribute at all to a newspaper, which the one might so probably be required to prosecute, and the other to try for libel ; and If it could be proved that they, or either of them, had been authors of some of the worst libels, this would, of course, be a great aggravation of tie offence. "The charges brought against these officers being thus of so grave a character, I have to instruct you to proceed with the least practicable delay to Smint Lucie, and to institute an inquiry into their truth. li, after haying called upon Messrs. Reddie and Atthill. for their defence, and beard what they have to ally ge,y(.o do Out find that they can exculpate them elves from the charge of having had connexion with the paper in question, you will at once su-p•nd them from their offi,es, transmit• wig to me a full report of your proceedings. "You will consider these instructions as equally ap plicable to the conduct of Mr. Leuger, the second Puiane Judge. "Governor Reid, &c.. &c , &c." " Saint Lucia, i No. 29. (True Copy.) (Signed) HOBERT KAY, Private Secretary. (True copy.) W. HANLEY, Col. Sec. and Treas. it Downing-street, April 13, 1847. "Sir,—l have received your dispatches of the dates and numbers noted in th. margin (Nos. 15, 18, 22 and 24; 4th, Bth, 9th, and 10th Feb ) further relative to the conduct of the Chiet Justice, the Attorney-General, and the second Puisne julge of St. Lucia. " I have to refer you to th- , dispatch (No. 20, of the 16th March) which I have already addressed to you on this sukect. " The aiditional papers now transmitted have not appeared to me to call for any modification of the in structions contained in that dispatch. Referring, how ever, to the renewed demand of Mr. Reddie, that the proposed inquiry should be conducted according to Judicial forms, I have to observe, that public officers to whom it is imputed that they have been abetting a scur rilous newspaper in libelling the officer administering the Government, are not to suppose that no notice can be taken of such conduct, unless the charge cqn be substantiated against them in the same manner as would be necessary in the case of a criminal charge brought against an individual in a court of law. "Public officers upon whom such an imputation is made may properly be called upon to deny its truth ; and if they refuse to do so, or tail to exculpate them selves, their removal must be the consequence. " I have, &c., (Signed) " Governor Reid, &c., &c." (True c pv.) (Signed) ROBERT KAY, PriNate See. (True copy.) W. HANLEY, Col. Sec. •nd Treasurer. " GREY. GOVERNOR REID AND THE ST. LUCIA JOURNALS. In an Extraordiwzni Gazette, published last Thurs day, Governor Reid makes known his suspension from o thee of her Majesty's Attorney-General, he having failed to exculpate himself from the (false) charges brought against him by Lieutenant-Colonel Torrens ; and Governor Reid, to exculpate himself from the charge of want of capacity, to execute with impartiality, the task imposed on him by his superior—ham thought it expedient to publish at the same time, and through the same channel, the instructions of her Majesty's Secretary of State directing him to inquire into the judges esstiy to arld truth or falsehood of the charges advanced by Lieutenant, 1 thead law a t h w e o ffi t three notices this Governor has pronounced h . Colonel Torrens against th e : of the Crown. Without inquiry opinion; but it is only nre notices put forth by Gwernor Reid, to be his want of integrity and narrow mind convinced that have ready instrument in the hands of L' made him a Torrens, to be used for the gratification ieutenantCone womanish spite against those ' of his more than who would not condescend inhabitants of St. Lucia to 1 to the top of his be n t. eed his inoidinate vanity The suspension of Mr. Attorney. General led to the promotion ofthe Attbill has General, Mallet Paret, nevay -appointed Solicitor administering the Go'veto that office :—and the Officer of his escape from the rnment has given another proof predecessor Lieutenant prepared for him by his Colonel Turrena, and his dia.. rc gard of the bd,does,....wh known bias bt h s immediate Cniet in Bar ea such bias would int erferewith the . eZercise of his discretio A .t 0 no i nnate to office, under his administration. Mr. St. Martin, n, whom Lieutenant-Colonel Hay has selected for the office of Solicitor-General, is advan tageously known in the colony for his independence as a member of the bar as well as in his private ca pacity. It was 0-is gentleman who, conjointly with his friend, Mr ortly . Justine Leuger, as stewards of a p ublic ball, sh after Lieutenant-Colonel Torrens' arrival here, successfully resisted the tyrannical attempt of Lieutenant•Coionel Torrens to force on the society of Castries certain per sons whose presence was otdectionable, and it was this successful resistance that earned for Mr. lA, , --nger the i n veterate hate of t he Lieutenant-Colonel arm Mrs. Torrens. I t w as Mr. St. Martin, also, who so perseveringly exposed all the adsurdity of the la w , an d i ts equally absurd a dministration, during the persecution to which he was exposed, as the owner of the dog " Picard"— relative to the metal collar, so pertinaciously insisted nnon by the newly -appointed Commissary of Police, Zahlcke. But Mr. St. Martin is yet better known for the acumen he has always displayed in criticising the various laws and ordinances issued by our very incapable Legislative Council. His appointment, therefore, to an office which will give him the opportunity of practically carrying out his own views, and exercising h►s talents as a law-maker, will secure for our laws henceforth that precision of language and technical correctness of form, on which depend., certainty of interpretation, and isicaitY of execution, the characteristics (4111 good publiol**•