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diplomatic victory—if we induced the RllfigallS to leave th e principalities. I meal) doubt the victory. Russia has gained without firing a shot what would have been awl worth purchasing by a bloody and expensive campaig,n. (Hear, hear.) She has established her power in the East —she has humiliated Turkey—she has compelled her to submit to an invasion without .resistancehe has ex halisted her resources—and, what is more, she - has humi liated this country and France in the eyes of her own sub jects, and of the populations of Turkey. (Hear, hear.) What have we done for Turkey, who opposed the demands of Russia with our sanction and supp or t —demands which we admitted to be ou tra g eous and unjust ? (Hear, hear.) We have subjected her to h u ation and in to all the re now urg her to ex penses of a war ; an d we a accept the very demands which we advised her in the first instance to reject. (Hear, hear.) And how had those demands been now urged upon her, and what does their acceptance involve ? Why, we have just learnt from the noble lord that the draught of the proposal to be agreed to by the remsentatives of the four powers at Vienna was first communicated to St. Petersburg, and was, of course, eagerly accepted—the acceptance being sent back without delay, and before the proposal could have even reached the Porte. The consequence is that, if the Porte declines to adhere to this proposal, Russia will call upon us to support her in compelling the Turkish Government, who has the real voice in the matter, and can alone judge how far the proposal affects her rights and independence, to accept that which we have sanctioned and recommended. (Hear, hear.) In fact, Russia has turned the tables com pletely upon us, and has made us her allies against Tur key, instead of being supporters of Turkey in resisting the unjust and unrighteous demand. (Hear, hear.) If Turkey accepts the proposal under this terrible pressure—for it is a terrible pressure, Russia now being united with four great powers of Europe against the Porte—we have directly sanctioned the pretensions of Russia to protect and inter f9re on behalf of the 12,000,000 of the Christian subjects of the Porte, a privilege which she might always have claimed, and to a certain extent, e xercised, but in which w e have never acquiesced. (Hear, hear.) 'Why, this is monstrous ! (Hear, hear.) Let this case be reversed. If Turkey had been in the place of Russia, what should we have done ? Why we should have compelled her to evacuate the princi palities at once, to have paid the whole expenses caused to Russia by an unwarrantable act — (he ar, hear)—and to have sent an ample apology. (Hear.) Nothing less now will satisfy the ends of justice. (Cheers.) If we do not deal with this outrageous case after this fashion, we show to the world that we have one measure for the weak and another for the strong, and we forfeit our ch aracter and prestige in the East, rendering the position of our am bassador at Constantinople utterly untenable. When once this great country has lent itself to a palpable act of injustice, as she has unfortunately done in this instance, she must descend in the scale of nations. (Cheers.) Look at the question as we may, we have taken the place of a second rate power, and conceded that of a first-rate power to . Rus sia alone. (Hear, hear.) It is s aid that the question is settled. (Hear, hear.) I contend that it is only a ques tion deferred. (Hear, hear.)Allied with France, sup ported by the public opinion of the whole of Europe, en gaged in a just and righteous cause, we have lost an opp . or- Vanit which pe rhaps never occur again, of settling y on a proper basis this great Eastern qu reaten the qu es ts the those vast conflicting interest s that yearly th peace the East, and of assigning to Russia that place to which as a great power she is entitled, and which I should be the last person to refuse her, but beyond which the safety of Europe and the interests of civilisation forbid that she should go. (Cheers.) Better would it have been to have induced Turkey at once to have accepted Prince 31enschi koff's proposal, than to have abetted her in a resistance which has only ended in her humiliation, and which has inflicted a blow upon her which must accelerate her ruin, an d render utterly hopeless any attempt to preserve her as an independent power. (Hear, hear.) But it is not only in Turkey and in the East innerl . l that the effects of this fatal policy will be felt. Sweden, and every weak state in Europe, Denmark, Germany, which depends for sup port—aye, for its very existence—upon the high character of England, and our 'mown respect for treaties, will look upon further oppositi on t o R uss ia as hopeless. (Hear, hear.) The day w ill p ro b a bly come when we shall see the error we have committed, and repent a policy against which, as a humble member of this house, I can only record my solems protest. (Cheers.) Sir J. PAKINGTON could not help feeling that they had some reason to complain of the extreme shortness of the notice which the noble lord had given of his intention to bring this subject under the notice of the house. Consi dering the brief interval that yet remained before the pro rogation, they might fairly have expected that on Friday last, or at least on Saturday, the noble lord would have made known his intention to make to the house the state- meat they had just heard. He was quite sure that, after the repeated postponements of the subject made at the pressing request of the noble lord, the noble lord must feel that his right hon. friend the member for Buckinghamshire would have desired to hear any statement which the noble lord might have to make, and share in any discussion which might take place. His right hon, friend only left London yesterday morning, and doubtless would be as much surprised as he (Sir J. Pakington) confessed he was surprised yesterday, when he learned that it was the in tention of the noble lord to make to the house to-day the statement they had just heard. Having listened to that statement, and the tone in which it was made by the noble lord, he certainly now felt that it would be inexpedient either to attempt to express any opinion upon tho policy which her Majesty's Government had adopted upon this question, or to follow the noble lord upon the various topics to which he bad adverted, and to touch upon those details on which the hon. gentleman who had just sat down dwelt in the course of his speech. But he could not refrain from stating the very deep regret he felt that before Parliament separated it had not been in the power of the noble lord to make a statement more satisfactory to Parliament and the country than, lie was sorry to say, he thought the state ment just now made must be regarded. (Cries of hear, hear.) In one respect he heard what fell from the noble lord with great pleasure. He was very glad to hear the noble lord confirm what had been stated in the other house by his colleague—namely, that her Majesty's Government were determined to regard the evacuation of the Princi palities as a sine qua non in the agreement ; but he cer tainly, on the other hand, felt very great regret at not hearing from the noble lord a solution of that question, on which an unusual amount of public anxiety was felt, namely, whether the note which had been agreed upon by the Four Powers involved the evacuation of the Principalities ? He should be very sorry to misunderstand what fell from the noble lord on this subject, but his impression was that his lordship had distinctly stated that the note agreed upon by the Four Powers did not call for the evacuation of the Da nubian Principalities, but that that important question still remained in as unsettled and as uncertain a state as hereto fore. In that case he was afraid that the country must still regard the whole question as being in a very uncertain and unsettled state. The house had, however, had the satisfaction of hearing that her Majesty's Government con sidered the evacuation of those principalities as indispen sably necessary to a state of peace. He had no doubt that in this determination her Majesty's Government would be supported, not only by the opinion of that house, but by the almost unanimous opinion of the people of this country, which he believed were quite as united as they had ever been of late years on any public question with respect to the necessity of making that evacuation an indispensable condition of peace, and of preserving unimpaired the in tegrity of the Turkish empire. The noble lord had very justly and properly said a good deal on the importance of preserving to this country those blessings of peace which she had so long enjoyed. The noble earl at the head of the Government had also said a good deal—perhaps, as was remarked by the hon. gentleman who had just resumed his seat, too much—upon the same point. Nor did he doubt that all parties, both in that house and in the country generally, were deeply desirous that the blessings of peace should be preserved to the country. But, on the other hand, he believed with equal confidence that most—he trusted, indeed, all—parties in that house, and he believed all parties in this country, desired that peace should not be preserved longer than was consistent with a due regard to the interests and honour of this country, and to, that balance of power which had been so long established in Europe. (Hear, hear.) He did not think he should be justified in going further into this subject in the absence of those papers which he was sorry that the noble lord still considered it to be inconsistent with his public duty to lay on the table. No doubt her Majesty's Government were the best judges of the proper time for their production ; but until that time it was impossible to form a conclusive judgment upon the policy which Ministers had pursued. Neither he nor the house could at present judge how far they were justified in not considering the invasion of the principalities a cams belli, or whether the blessings of peace might not have been better secured and more surely attained had the Government followed a more vigorous and decided policy at an earlier period of the negotiations. This question had been now Pending and unsettled for six months ; during that time, not only had the interests and the welfare of Turkey, but also those of this country, suffered from this long sus tense and it would be for her Majesty's Government suspense to show that they were not responsible for the occasioned. that had existed, and for, the injury which it had of the noble He deeply regretted that the announcement (Sir J. lord had not been more satisfactory than he reservehis Pakington) for one must consider it ; but he must had take judgment upon the policy which the Govern mentesre to make this and he said this without the slightest if it could be avolleVon a subject of party difference, papers which w ere re e u ( i TTntil the production of those requisite I , e o i throw light upon the nego tiations which had been Lord D. STUART sa id that h o e n d ' id ( n H o e t a o r ite ) n agree with the right hon. baronet and hon. gentlemen opposite ; but OR this occasion he coincided with everything that had fallen from the right hon. member for t rDroitwich (Sir J. Pakington). He thought they h a d a right her Majesty's Government had not allowed th o is complain subjectt in n e th co course be discussed on a previous occasion ; esp ec i a ll y as taken by the noble lord the member for Lond on stunce was quite different from that whi c h h ad been 's in sued by other British Ministers when important questions of foreign policy had arisen. On all such occasions there had been frequent, and indeed often animated, di-cussions in that house. In addition to, the case refereed to by the hon. member for Aylesbury (Mr. Layard), the house would recollect the debates on the questions of Syria and of the Spanish marriages, and he might also recal to their me inory the• discussions which took place in 1823, on the attempt of the Holy Alliance to interfere in the affairs el Spain. On that occasion no British Minister ventured to tell the House of Commons that there should be no discussion because ne g otiations were in pro . eress ; on the contrary, the then l eader of the house invitedb a free expression of opinion, and it was the_ occasion of some of the noblest and most fervent displays of eloquence that ever took place in that hou se. He could not help thinking that it was both the right and the duty of that house to have declared whether they con sidered the invasion of the Danubian principalities by Russia right or wrong. He had heard the Foreign Secretary, the Minister especially responsible in this matter, declare in the other house that he had no objection to a discussion, and that if a debate were waived it was not in consequence of the wishes of the Government but in deference to the advice of other parties. If, then, th e G overnmen t did not consider it imp ro p er to ave a discussion in the o th e r house. why did they ob j ect to ne that ho es) ? (H ear, h ear, Bear.) Although the did not ble lord's explanation was not a very full one, since it atm hi W t h t nn a single thing hat what they knew before, to the conclu as sion that, from its omissions, he must come of which ho e w ei a i that the noble lord had been doing things All previous Gov s (Hear, hear, and laughter.) as surances e t rna o t the Porte this country had given con tinualthns from the Throne, b- and to Europe, by declare and by the ~=3eches in both houses of Par liament,preambles of treaties that they regarded the preservation of the integrityo of the Turkish empire as one of the raost pressing and independence of their solicitude. But now, when the integrity thater v u i s n to deuce of Turkey were threatened, the Government ha ( d e Z e t i , l the effect of which seemed to b e negotiations, to get all that she wanted, notwithstanding s was tha t v a i h r virtually had a ll y committed an act of war against Turk ey , wad had bee n 2e OtrtiV PAYZ io I`' v.. , a . Sik ii:cf THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EN _ENG, AUGUST 17, 1853. copy of any dispatch from her Majesty's Consul at Cartha gena (New Granada) to her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs respecting the repeal of the quarantine regulations formerly enforced at that port against yellow fever, the admission to free pratique there of the royal mail steam-packet Dee, and the reception into the gener a l h os pit a l th ere of yellow fever patients from that ship.— A greed to. The Lords' amendments to the Commons' amendments i the Charitable Trusts Bill were agreed to. The Lords' amendments to the Courts of Common Law (Ireland) Bill were agreed to. DUBLIN CARRIAGES BILL, Upon the reading of the Lords' amendments to this bill, Mr. VANCE remonstrated strongly against the amend ment made by the upper house, by which ten instead of seven statute miles from the General Post-office were fixed upon as the limit to which drivers were bound to ply. There was another amendment to which a strong objection would be entertained—with regard to the disposal of the penalties. The corporation of Dublin would have petitioned against this bill - altogether if it had been understood from the first that the penalties were to be monopolised by the metropolitan police force, instead of going in part to the guardians of the poor. Sir J. YOUNG did not see that much disadvantage could result to the ratepayers of Dublin, in whichever of the two ways the penalties were employed. It was only like putting the money out of we pocket into the other. The Lords' amendments were then agreed to. The house adjourned at half-past seven o'clock until three o'clock on Friday, when the sitting will be a con tinuous one. FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE of YESTERDAY. LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, Aua. 16. Orders for the Court's going into Mourning on Thursday next, the 18th inst., for his late Royal Highness the Duke of Saxe-Altenburg, viz :—The Ladies to wear black Silk, fringed or plain Linen, white Gloves, Necklaces, and Ear rings, black or white Shoes, Fans, and Tippets. The Gen tlemen to wear Black full-trimmed, fringed or plain Linen, black Swords and Buckles. The Court to change the Mourning on Sunday next, the 21st inst., viz. :—The Ladies to wear black Silk or Velvet, coloured Ribbons, Fans, and Tippets, or plain whit°, or white and gold, or white and silver Stuffs, with black Rib bons. The Gentlemen to wear black Coats, and black or plain white, or white and gold, or white and silver Stuff Waistcoats, full-trimmed, coloured Swords and Buckles. And on Thursday, the 25th instant, the Court to go out of Mourning. DOWNING-STREET, AUG. 16. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Thomas Graham, Esq., to be Crown Commissioner, Surveyor, and Engineer, for the Turks and Caicos Islands. Her Majesty has also been pleased to make the following appointments for the colony of the Cape of Good Hope, viz.: William S. Field, Esq., to be Sub-Collector of Cus toms at Port Elizabeth, and Louis Henry Meurant, Esq., to be Resident Magistrate of Stockenstrom District, in the division of Fort Beaufort. Her Majesty has further been pleased to make the fol lowing appointments for the district of Natal, in South Africa, viz.: John Bird, Esq., to be Chief Clerk in the office of the Colonial Secretary., and Clerk of the Legisla tive Council, and George Macleroy, Esq., to be Registrar of Deeds. FOREIGN-OFFICE, AUG. 3. The Queen has been graciously pleased to appoint the Honourable Frederick Bruce, now her Majesty's Charge d'Affaires and Consul-General to the Oriental Republic of the Uruguay, to be her Majesty's Agent and Consul-Gene ral in Egypt. CROWN-OFFICE, AUGUST 15. MEMBER RETURNED TO SERVE IN THIS PRESENT PARLIAMENT. County of Stafford, Southern Division—The Honourable Edward Richard Littleton, of Teddesley, in the county of Stafford, in the room of the Honourable George Anson, who has accepted the office of Steward of her Majesty's Chiltern Hundreds. COMMISSIONS SIGNED BY THE LORD-LIEUTENANTS. Durham Militia Artillery—James Trotter, Esq., to be surgeon, Aug. 11. 2d or North Durham Regiment of Militia of the county of Durham—John Bland, Gent., t.) be Assistant-Surgeon, Aug. 11. Kent Militia Regiment of Artillery—William Wells, Esq., late of Ist Regiment of Life Guards, to be Captain, Aug. 9 ; Esic Carrington Smith, Gent., to be First Lieu. tenant, Aug. 10 ; John Leslie, Gent., late of Ist Regiment of Life Guards, to be Second Lieutenant ; William eankey, Gent., late Assistant-Surgeon 95th Rifle Corps to be Sur• geon, Aug. 11. _ _ - West gent Regiment of Militia —Frederick Mares God den, Esq., late Lieutenant 56th Regiment, to be Captain ; Aug. 10 ; George French, Esq., to be Captain, Aug. 11. BANKRUPTCY ANNULLED. Samuel Clarke, hardwareman, Exeter. that when there was a q uestion as to whether theie he a discussion in th is houie,l did 'not say, nor did m ihOuld noble friend near me say, that we refused any discussion, y and were 'not prepared to meet that discussion ; we only said that we did not think it h dis woul cu d bssion e for the benefit efit of the public serv ice that any suc should place, and a great majority of the house, when the house was more full than it is at present, fully concurred in the opinion that, if the Government thought it was not so for the public service, such discussion should not take place. If s h o uld be interrupted, and that some adverse mot on ought any body had then said that the course of the Governent to be made, I would have been ready to meet that motion, and I certainly understood from the hon. member for Aylesbury that he would rather wish to support the Go vernment. (Hear.) I cannot believe, if an attempt should be made by Russia to invade Turkey, that the Christian subjects of the Turkish Government would be indisposed to assist them. I think the case would not be very diffe rent from that which is related in an anecdote of Charles 11., who, with his usual wit, on an occasion when the Duke of York said he should take care of his life, and hoped he would not go in so unguarded a manner about the streets as he was in the habit of going, said, " I will tell you what, brother ; I have this security, I do not think anybody will kill me in order that you may succeed." (Laughter) In the same way the Mahomedan yoke is not so hateful to the Christian subjects of the Porte that they would be rejoiced to have that power overthrown in order that they might see a Russian power established in its place. Mr. BILTNTZ would also relate an anecdote of King Charles 11. When refusing a demand that had been made by the Dutch ambassador, he said to him, " You would not have dared to make such a proposal to Oliver Crom well." t‘ Your Majesty," replied the ambassador, "is a very different man from Oliver Cromwell." (Hear.) If they had a different set of men in the government of this country in the present day the Russians would not have marched into the Danubian provinces, and they had done so because the Emperor of Russia entertained the opinion that nothing would make this country go into a war. They had prevented the manufacture of arms in this country which were to be sent to Poland to assist-in gaining the liberties of a people who would be the real barriers against the ex tension of Russian power. They had permitted the inter ference of Russia in Hungary, and he considered that the interference of a second party between the govereed and the governors was a great piece of injustice, and should never have been allowed by any civilised people. (Hear.) They were now reaping the fruits of their conduct; they allowed all the natural barriers of Russia to be de stroyed; and they had given an opportunity to the Emperor of Russia of carrying out his intentions and taking posses sion of Turkey on the very first opportunity. (Hear, hear.) Did her Majesty's Government believe that this business was at an end? When the Russian troops were about crossing the Pruth the Government of this country should have said that if they crossed the Pruth it would be a case of war, and thereby have prevented them from occupying the Turkish provinces ; but the Russian troops had not only crossed the Pruth, but had occupied the provinces, and they evidently had an intention to enter into penile neat occupation of the provinces. (Laughter.) They had caused the humiliation of Turkey by inducing her to give way, and the least they should have done was to say that, before they made any terms with Russia, they should evacuate those provinces. He was sure the people of this country were very much disappointed at' what had taken place. Not only the members of the house, but the people out of doors, were anxious on the subject. (Hear, hear.) They'felt that the honour of the country had been sullied, and that all sense of honour was lost, because the country was now governed by considerations of pounds, shillings, and pence. If Oliver Cromwell were now governing this country, would the Russians have entered those provinces? What did he do in Italy and in France, when theytook mea sures against some of their own countrymen ? He inter fered without any considerations of expense, because it was a question of honour with him, and not a question of pounds, shillings, and pence. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BLACKETT would not leave himself open to the censure of the noble lord at the head of the Government by criticising late transactions, until they were placed be ' fore them in an authentic form, but at the same time he On:night that the noble lord, by steadily refusing to take Parliament and the. people of England into his councils, had iv creased greatly the responsibility that rested upon the Govermeeent ; and of course the future judgment of the house must be severer than it would otherwise be if it should turn cent that, when Parliament reassembled, the noble lord had 2 - teen mistaken in his views or that he had miscalculated his Own position. There was one point that he wished to press upon the house, and that had reference to the occupation of the Danubian provinces. The noble lord left them in no douiet upon the subject, because, from his eloquent silence, they could not think they were wrong in assuming that no mention 0-f the evacuation of the prin cipalities was contained in the terms to which they were told the Emperor of Russia had assented. The question as to the evacuation of the principalities seemed to him to be of far more importance than the terms of any treaty which the Emperor of Russia and the Sultan m ight agree to. He had never doubted that the ingenuity os' diplomatists would be able to contrive some document w • leich either party could sign without much humiliation; but ale ques tion of the continued occupation of the principalitisee was more important, because it was more manifest to Europe, and more decided in its pressure on the population. He should be sorry to see Turkey signing any treaty of a hu miliating character, but the knowledge of that treaty would be confined to a comparatively limited circle of per sons interested in diplomatic affairs, and many years might elapse before either power was called upon to put that treaty into execution, and they had the chapter of acci dents to trust to ; but the occupation of the principalities by Russian troops was a fact that pressed itself upon the attention of every peasant in Wallachia and Moldavia, and was calculated to disorganise the entire Turkish 'system. It would be out of the power of those principalities to obtain any treaty that would enable them to avoid the in tolerable position of occupying the debateable ground be tween two hostile empires. The occupation of the pro vinces was calculated to extend the prestige of the Russian empire, and was pregnant above all with the most fatal consequences to the permanent peace of Europe. What was the ground on which the permanent peace of Europe rested? It was not on the power of any single nation ; nor, as had been foolishly represented, on the magnanimity of any sin gle sovereign ; nor on the wisdom or moderation of popu lar assemblies. The peace of Europe really rested upon the general conviction that any power that was the first to break it was sure to find the whole of Europe leagued against it, and was sure to come off the loser. (Hear.) If they would only cast their eyes over the map of Europe, they would everywhere find that powerful states were, perhaps naturally and excusably, inspired by a wish to increase their resources and extend their territories ; and sido by side they found weak states offering, but for those barriers, an easy prey to cupidity and ambition. (Hear, hear.) It was nothing but a prudent and hone - arable apprehension of drawing down upon themselves the reprobation and chastigment of their allies. (Hear, hear.) It was that feeling which had prevented France from intermeddling with Belgium, Prussia from absorbing Saxony, and Aus tria from interfering with the Sardinian States, and which, until within the last few months, kept Russia beyond the Pruth ; and he was sure that those apprehensions would still restrain Russia within proper limits if the Govern 'meats of England and France remained firm. (Hear, hear.) If they wished to maintain those barriers, it was absolutely necessary that the failure of the Emperor of Russia in his present schemes should be as palpable and unquestionable as his original pretensions were (in the words of Lord Lynd hurst) audacious. The Government should not lose time in devising terms to soothe his mortified spirit, but should rather hold the case up as a warning from Europe to the next malefactor who attempted to disturb the public peace. (Hear, hear.) If that result were arrived at, he should re joice that England and France had joined together to achieve that great triumph. (Hear, hear.) He could not conceive why the Government should deviate from its straightforward course, or allow itself to be in the least degree swayed by dynastic sympathies. (Hear.) By such a policy they would sow the seeds of disorganisation ' • they wo uld proclaim, in accents not difficult to understand, that England was ready enough to threaten, but if she were only pressed, she was sure to shrink from having re curse to arms. (Hear.) Mr. COBDEN—I do not exactly see that there is any difference of opinion on the question that is before us. I find everybody is agreed that Russia has acted in a man ner that is treacherous, heedless, and violent. I find that in and out of the house everybody entertains the opinion that the most fortunate result of the late proceedings in the East is that it has brought about a firm alliance, not only between the people of England and France, but between the Governments of England and France, for I never can cease to separate the people de facto from their Govern ments. Everybody wishes that Russia would evacuate the principalities, and the noble lord has himself expressed his conviction that this object will be attained ; and I be. lieve everybody in the house and out of it, would be will ing to wait a few months longer and have all those ques tions settled peaceably. I think that, oven in Birmingham itself, though muskets are manufactured there, the people, if there was a meeting held in the Town-hall, would rather support the noble lord in a pacific policy than precipitate the country into a war to obtain the same objects a month or two earlier. But though evidently there is a great ac quiescence of opinion amongst us all, there is still a great deal of uneasiness on the subject of Turkey. Is not the reason obvious, though we will not face it, and will rather deal with the superficies of the matter than deal with the interior of it. It is this—because there is a growing con viction in our minds that what has been hitherto a current phrase, " the independence of the Turkish Empire," has now become a mere empty phrase, and nothing more ; because the fact is, that within the last twenty years there has been a growing conviction in the minds of people that the Turks in Europe are intruders—that it is not their do micile or their permanent home—that their home is in Asia, that Mahomedanism cannot exist in Europe alongside of civilised states. The progress of events has given an impetus to that opinion, which is grounded on the conviction that you cannot maintain Mahomedanism in Europe. Do what you will that is your opinion—that is the embarrassment we feel—that is the embarrassment of the Government in deal ing with the subject. In dealing with it, we are not in earnest in the belief that we can preserve Mahomedanism in Europe. (Hear.) I have no wish to see the Russians in Constantinople, but I will not prevent them by our taking our stand for the preservation of Mahomedanism in Europe. If we or the Americans were the next neighbours of Tur key. judging by what they and we have done elsewhere, and what we have done with regard to half-a-dozen Mahome dan dynasties in India, we would have swallowed them up long ago. (Hear.) There is another fact that has come up, and that is the existence of a large Christian popula tion in Turkey in Europe. (Hear.) The fact is prominently before us that the Christian element in Turkey in Europe is now the prominent one, and we cannot ignore it, because for every one Turk in Turkey in Europe there are three Christians in Turkey in Europe. (Hear.) The great ma jority of the people in Turkey in Europe are Christians, and the question is, what are the feelings of the Christian population towards their Mahomedan rulers. (Hear.) I be lieve that the feeling amongst the Christian population in the interior of Turkey is not favourable. I believe that in the large cities, in Smyrna and in Constantinople, the Christians enjoy a certain portion of protection, but if you bmOrtnonesntpetohpelree as s s go into the interior of Turkey all the evidence goes to con nasotthoepyprwesesrethe !ban me when I state that the Christian population in the interior of Turkey, in the small towns and villages, have a v r ery hard lot indeed, and they are as much now under the ale and violent domination of an insolent caste and a bar barous they . were. (Rear, hear.) At this peasant a ca(i ' or in P t ac he h i a n poorno,teorirorsoalldmieorstthaastbamdalyy (Hear, hear.) These two or three hundred years ago. coming to a are facts that you cannot ignore in of the Christian decision on the question of what is the feeling lord offere the population. (Hear, hear.) The noble to the Russians. opinion that they would prefer the Turks But I must say for (Hear, hear.) Well, that is possible. myself—having• • visited both countries guilty of conduct insolently domineering and inconsistent with good faith towards Europe generally; And Turkey, after having been urged to resist, was now advised not to consider the invasion of her territory as a cases belli, but to accede to all the demands of Russia. He thought that the English Government were especially to blame for this, for, notwithstanding they were not allowed to see the papers, he believed that France was inclined to take far more energetic steps, if Lord Aberdeen's Administration had not prevailed upon her to recede from what she thought right and adopt the snore pusillanimous course which they recommended. Notwithstanding that peace.might be se cured on this occasion, he believed, that in consequence of the policy which had now bee n adopted, posterity would be engaged in wars of a far more terrible character than any which could now have arisen, and that they would then have a right to blame the present Government, whose false steps on this occasion had been attended with such disastrous consequences. (Hear.) It was, doub w t, the interest of the country to pr eserve peace ; but no thereere, nevertheless, occasions when nations were called upon to sacrifice their present interests in obedience to the require ments of good faith, and in acc ordance with an enlightened view of what would be to their ultimate advantage. Nor must it be forgotten that although peace was desirahle to this country, there was no na tion that had less o ccasion sc dread war. No other country in Europe but this enjoy the the blessings f o t f b l e i s b e e r e r t y a 1 , m a s r anti a n so seated th ruler hisin TEburrooupoe withbut tshuffireewiehnitsfi p r o m w n e e r ss . toB But t e b c o ert be a l i i n ev t e h d a t t b w a war c ver i w m a a r t e a d ßall. by o i n n l ( c i t e n p c e n t Had of T Turkey Government ov might orni t have e o been b i s s e c c u o r x. e i c u t tr withoutbeet, guya Bay, he believed that the Autocrat ordinary spirit, and had they earlier osfyenittuthsseiafleweotutlodßneesrikear which had been willingly agreed have sent Prince Mensc hikoff to Constantinopttlhe, or would have been contsnted with those concessions w ablefeonr tourect to Holy Placeis _ blLnagrl g to by that his crossing be the yh ea lai gn d France. And if tabto aplarrtrbawratoeutlde fleets to enter the Dardanelles, he (Lord D. Stuart) be lieved that not a single Russian would ever have crossed that river. (Hear.) There were two ways of maintaining peace ; one was by obtaining for those whom we protectid everything that was their right—the other was by submit ting to every insult, by receiving complacently every ki c k, by breaking faith with our allies, and by placing ourselves in a degrading position, where no one would respect us. While sensible of the services of a Min ister who maintained peace by the first course, he could not honour one whose policy was based upon the latter principle, and he believed that if we had now a Mi nister who was "not the Minister of Austria or Russia, but the Minister of England," none of these deplorable events would have occurred, which had endangered, and still, in fact, did endanger, the peace and tranquillity of the world. Indeed, some of the worst evils of war had been already encountered by the inhabitants of the unfor tunate principalities, who had suffered from the occupation of the Russian army, with all the attendant peculation, extortion, and tyranny which it entailed. Wh en Russia occupied these principalities in 1849, for the purpose of suppressing their liberal institutions, and of crushing the Hungarian struggle for liberty, he (Lord D. Stuart) told the house that if such a course were not opposed by Eng land, it would be repeated again and again. The result proved the correctness of his predictions. The principalities were now again occupied, in order to compel Turkey to grant undue concessions. This country had been humiliated and degraded in the eyes of the world, by having publicly given assurances to Turkey which we had not the spirit or courage to fulfil. We had suffered the power of Russia to prevail, and we had no longer a right t o expect Ru ss o salutary advice of ours would in future influence the Turk ish Government. That power had advanced in civilisa tion during the last thirty years more than perhaps any other European nation. Our commerce with Tarkey was now larger than that with Russia. Our exports, which twenty years ago were only half a million, had since in creased sixfold, while those to Russia had only doubled. There could be no question that if the provinces at pre sent subject to Turkey passed under the Russian sway, the present liberal tariff would be abrogated, and this in creasing commerce would be checked. He knew that some honourable members were unfavourable to Turkey be cause it was not a Christian power ; but it should be recol lected that in matters of religion, Turkey was one of the most tolerant countries in the world. In Russia, on the other hand, no religion except that of the Greek Church was safe from persecution. Whole provinces had been converted at the point of the bayonet from the Roman Catholic religion, and the Protestant inhabitants of the province of Esthonia had been subjected to continual per secution. He did not say that the Government of the Sultan was perfect, but he did say that the friends of hu manity, and even of Christianity, must prefer the mainte nance of the Sultan's rule to the substitution of the Czar's in its place, and that they must join the noble lord in the wishes which he professed so eloquently, but carried out so feebly, that an effectual resistance might be offered to the encroachments of Russia on Turkey. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord concluded by reminding the Government that although they had succeeded in postponing the discus. sion on this question during the present, it was inevitable in a future session of Parliament. Mr. M. MILNES thought that his noble friend was rather hard upon her Majesty's Government in making so many rapid discussions, and assuming that they had done something of which they were ashamed, because they had not laid the papers upon the table of the house. The pre cedents were rather on their side than on the other, and they knew it was the habit of this country to let the Foreign Minister do anything he liked, or to get into as many scrapes as he chose, always trusting to the ability with which he would get out of them. (Hear, hear.) This was one of the peculiar questions on which the display of a little more confidence in the House of Commons would have strengthened the hands of the Government. He thought her Majesty's Government had acted with great prudence, but he thought also that if the House of Com mon.; had been let a little into their schemes they would not havebeenthe worse for making the communication. (Hear.) There might be members in that house who would have urged her Majesty's Government to a stronger and appar ently more energetic policy, and to a more decided interven tion. It might have appeared that the House of Commons was not only prepared to go as far as the Government, but further if necessary; and he did not believe that the display of a firm trust in the House of Commons would have any other effect than to strengthen the hands of the Governtnent (Hear, hear.) He could not suppose that the Government had been actuated by any fear of their intentions being known, or through an apprehension that any power or po tentate in Europe would beirnpressed with the notion that any menace was held out by this country. (Hear, hear.) He was himself so completely convinced of the extreme difficulty and complexity of the question that he could not but excuse the Government. His honourable friend who had spoken below the gangway talked of the question of the independence of Turkey and her relations with Russia as if it were merely a question between two great powers, and not one involving complicated subjects both of nation ality and of religion ' • but the more he (Mr. M. Milnes) learned on the subject the more he was impressed with the extreme difficulty of dealing with them. (Hear, hear.) A minister, he thought, might be fully justified in laying down the principle that he would do all he could for the protection of the interests of Turkey, without pledging himself at the same time that this country would go to war on every particular point that in any way interfered with that independence. (Hear, hear.) When they con sidered that they had to deal with a Christian power having the sympathies of a. portion of the people within the Turkish dominions, and that they were called upon to maintain in Europe a power with whose principles, as re garded religion and civilisation, they totally disagreed, it would be seen that her Majesty's Government had a more difficulty duty to perform than if the object of this country was to prevent one Christian power from invading the rights of another. (Hear, hear.) In that difficulty they must be permitted in some degree to temporise, and if he were inclined to find fault with the statement made by the noble lord, it was because the noble lord did not inform them that the present note, or whatever it was to which the Turkish Government was to submit, would in any de gree place the Turkish Government in a better position than it would have been in if it had not been induced to resist the demands of Prince Menschikoff. (Hear.) Knowing, as they did, the financial difficulties of Turkey, they should not have encouraged her to resist further than they were ready to support her ; and if it were the policy of this country to permit a certain amount of Russian influence in Turkey without resisting that influence by force of arms, he could not but agree with the noble lord that the departure of Prince Menschikoff was a most unfortunate event, and it was to be regretted that no means had been used to prevent that open rupture. (Hear, hear.) If at that moment they regarded it as a happy conclusion of affairs that the Prussian Government should be allowed to exercise considerable authority, and interfere with the Christian subjects of the Sultan, and permitted the Turkish ambassador to ask for that as a favour at St. Petersburg, he thought it would have been much better if they had urged upon Turkey to consent to the offer of Russia in the beginning, and thus saved Turkey from the drain upon her narrow and limited resources by the expenses incurred in the preparation of an armament for her defence. (Hear.) The whole matter would come before them at a future meeting of Parliament, and then the question would not be whther her Majesty's Government had acted with undue moderation in acceding to the demands of Russia; the question would be whether they had not in some de gree encouraged Turkey in adopting a line of policy in which they were not prepared wholly to sustain her. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the course that might be adopted by the Christian population in Turkey, it should be recollected that there were in all the provinces certain individuals who understood that it would be for the best interests of the Christian population of Turkey that the Turkish rule should continue some time longer, because they enjoyed under it a degree of toleration that they could not expect to enjoy under an autocratic European domination ; but he did not•think that feeling extended throughout the whole of that population, and that, in the event of an open war, between Russia and Turkey, the Turkish Government would find that a portion of the Christian population would either side with the invader, or afford but little aid to the Government. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL—I owe some explanation to the right hon. gentleman the member for Droitwich, who ap pearsrht to think th a t I oug ht to have given a longer notice o statement I was going to make. With regard to the k nr ;fth e right honourable gentleman the member for previous occasione a" ' ab i se c u r been awnarmshire, that right hon. gentleman must have I would malcese no doubt, was aware—that I said on a that before Parliament should separate the right hon. gentleman th a t I have made. No doubt enter into a nman thought that I was not going to discussion of th e reasons on w hi c h th e Govern ment have proceeded some facts relating t' an the that I was mere ly a bl e t o s t a t e some facts relatin g to tli riga es li ent relations of Russia and quite right when opinion on tilliinei,n, and I d i d no t state condu c t of th e Govern gentleman the member Turkey. (Hear.) Th e he st a t es th a t no mem b er i f s or ao D m r ip oi i t t w te ic d h t i o s any attempting to p rove t h e wisdom (Hear.) But several explanation sho u ld b e a m p e y n t a . r g p [ me wishedn arguments p r t o o v elicit c p i r t of the course of t he Govern ment. hon. members h ad wished some made, and I complied with that wish with the view of giv ing them such au explanation as I could give. (Bear, hear.) In fact I went beyond the precedents, and I stated more than was stated in the ease to which I alluded in 1841. I think that what the hon. member for Aylesbury has said only shows that any opinion as to the wisdom or folly of our course ought to be isseerve& untilathepapers are (Hear, hear.) I shall not enter into dispute with seen. ed to enter into he papers to which narrative which I can only tell from t him, because if I did so I would be oblig a he has not access. say, that if peace to enter into that discussion. I can only (Hear.) Therefore I don't think it right noble friend the price is at all better. (Laugh ter.) My at any price is a bad maxim, I cannot see war at any t to ascertain were' addressed to her Majesty's Governmen member for Marylebone has ref i3rred to the questions that their opinions ; and of this I will remind lily noble friend, BANKRUPTS. John Collett Jackson and Adolphus Feistal Harrison, merchants, Old Broad-street, to surrender, August 26, at half-past one, and September 23, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Bassinghall street ; Moss Gracechurch-street. Frederick Wm. Strickland, wine merchant, Chancery lane, August 27, at half-past eleven, and September 23, at half-past one. Canaan, official assignee, Aldermanbury ; Sydney, Finsbury-circus. John Cornish, grocer, Tiverton, Aug. 25 and Sept. 22, at one, at the Exeter District Court. Hernamann, official assignee, Exeter; Dunsford, Tiverton; Turner, Exeter. William Laycock, innkeeper, Bradford, Aug. 30, at twelve, and September 30, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. 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Tdo not' bla e them be- Porte • anli t lf +' should prefer a Russian or any other Govern ro ent cause they have tak en up 9, position to defend the Turkish rather 'that- t il h a l n a Mahomedan one . (H ear, h ear, a nd mar. - a of empire. It is a traditionary policy they have followed, dissent.) Ido not say but th a t th e h on . mem ber for I 'on- and unless they had public opinion with them, no Govern tefract, who has travelled in Turkey and in Egypt, vt ould i mont could avoid doing so. All I say is, t I have no not find himself a great deal freer man in either of ' ;,hose I doubt they will soon get rid of the difficulties respecting countries than in Russia. But it wou ld b e a very cliff erent . the Wallachian provinces ; and I congratulate them on thing if he were to become a resident in the East, to] . nount having been as peaceable as the people would allow them to of be th p e la r c o e r d te in . thle admit t ie i i i i , i o e f a a to be. p (Cheers.) RSTON—I cannot allow the speech of the thera matteryah badge oro f opinion, would not prefer the Russian to the Mahomeds en rule. hon. member who has just sat down to pass without one or but it is an open question whether they C i h n r Christian a c ia ap s ' ub a j n e subject All I wish to urge is this, that that is a questio re which two observations, and I cannot accept the praise which, in we must entertain. We are not taking the usureio -which his conclusion, he has given to the conduct of the Govern willment on the grounds on which he has been pleased to place w e ensure u o r a e r r y Turkishthe great d e bulk pen independence c t e he of population w e i i n e s .. , Th u n r -. . it. Nothing is more painful than to see a man of great knows to be contrary to the opinions of his their wishes at present. The question ought to be more ability labouring under an internal conviction which he poonbvtitosuasll,tahnaat itw e wi c l a l n p r r io e t ss us c u o p i , i:icler fellow-country still more—it will hamper the Government in all their men, and f • pre l s t ses is u a raid—l do not wish to use a stronger term— ;uist. negotiations, especially on the question of resisting force afraid by force. It may be possible for a time, if you will, to openly to express it, but cloaking it under every undertake to say how the eastern part of Europe shall be specious device which the ingenuity of his practised ora governed, but in the end we must go further, and from a tory can afford. The hon. gentleman states consideration of the wishes of the people themselves we with every one who has spoken before him. He agrees with must undertake to say who shall permanently govern the everybody at the beginning of his speech, and he ends by Turkish empire. That is a question on which I' dare say the hon. member for Aylesbury would b e able g reatl y to differing from them all on every point. (Hear, hear.) The enlighten us, and to tell us what the tendencies of the hon. member began by Wallachians—what the tendencies of the Servians—what that we ought to maintain the independence of Turkey, the tendencies of the Greeks may be ; it is difficult for us and to prevent Russia from taking possession of her pro to know them all, but of this I am quite sure, that we vinces; shall have our hands full if we undertake to deal with this but, in the course of his speech, he used every ar question as it ought to be dealt with. As to sending our gument his ingenuity could urge to show that Turkey was fleet to the Bay of Besika, and keeping the Ruisians out not worth defending * (Cheers.) If the hon. gentleman as Of Constantinople ,— that you may do , no doubt. Russia h ad stood forward the avowed advocate of the aggressive has always avoided a collision with ,a maritime power. She and ambitious policy of Russia—if he had stood forward as has avoided it with America—she has avoided it with England — because in such a collision all the illusion re- the defender of that policy which he pretends to denounce specting her greatness would be dispelled at once. But in and condemn—l do not think, in the present state of feel the meantime yon are keeping up an enormous armament, ing of the house and the country, he could have dared to which does not tend to settle the question—you are induc- pursue a course more extenuating, and more calculated to ing the Turkish Government to prepare for war, which will assist that policy, than he has done. (Hear, hear.) I bring ruin and bankruptcy on her finances—you are there by placing Turkey in a more feeble and prostrate condition never heard a speech so full of self-contradicti ons . At one than she was in before. I have no doubt the Government moment Russia was—he did not tell us, as he once told will prevent a war, but the question will not be settled; it the country, that Russia could be crumpled up like a sheet will come up again ; and you must therefore address your- of paper — but brownhe told she was se lves, as men of sense and men of energy, to the question —what are you to do with the Christian population ? for incapable of resisting any serious e ff or t o f thi s Mahomedanism cannot be maintained, and, what is more, country ; and in the next moment he tell s us th a t war w ith I should be sorry to see this country fighting for the main- Russia would be fraught with infallible ruin to England. tenauce of Mahomedanism. I never could get up any zeal How does he reconcile these two statements? At one time on behalf of the Mahomedans ; they keep the plague—they he tells us that Russia is a barbarous power, scattered in her keep slavery—they have a bazaar for the sale of black and white slaves. You may keep Turkey on the map of Europe; territories and weak in her internal administration ; then you may call the country by the name of Turkey if you he launches out in praise of St. Petersburg , and because St. like, but do not think you can keep up the Mahomedan Petersburg is a finer city than Constantinople, therefore rule in that country. A great deal has been said about the Russia must possess both. (Laughter and cheers.) The necessity of -maintaining the independence of Turkey on hon.gentleman is a Free-trader ;in that capacity he made account of her commerce. Now, as a Free-trader, I must . the tour of Europe, and being received with that courtesy once for all enter my protest against fighting fora market at all. I never would consent to fight for a low tariff. In and civility which his personal qualities so well entitled the first place,_ I deny that you could do so. You fought him to, he fancied that he for a tariff in Spain, and after spending 209 or 300 millions Europe to abandon their former systems in favour of free of money in keeping Spain out of the hands of an enemy who would have excluded your commerce, you accomplished trade. The hon. gentleman says that the efforts of this your object, and Spain and Portugal repaid your exertions country in favour of unrestricted tariffs have signally failed. by enacting the most restrictive tariffs in Europe. You I should like to know what was the result of his European occupied Sicily during the whole of the last war ; and tour. But, si •r, we never made wars for tariffs ; our wars when you left it, what sort of tariff was enacted for your were waged for the liberties of Europe, and not for the manufactures ? (Hear, hear.) In the next place, I have too much faith in my principles to go to war for them. I tariffs of commerce ;we waged war for the liberties and believe that free- trade principles will spread and make independence of nations, and for the balance of power, converts by means of peace. We are making converts which the hon. gentleman sneers at, because he does not every day by the proofs we are affording of the salutary seem to understand it—(laughter)—but which all well-in and striking benefits of free trade. (Hear.) Therefore do not talk of war as a means of removing restrictions, or formed persons feel to be essential to the liberty and well of opening markets. Besides, the noble lord is under a being of mankind. The hon. gentleman, with all his free great delusion as to the accounts of our commerce with trade partialities—and no man has be e n more assiduous cr Turkey. The returns for which he moved, and on which more he earnest in the enforcement of that pri n cipl e th an h e are r sent most of elies, are the r them to Austeturns of exp orts tup the Danube. o the Black Sea, w lt is hich ' has been—l should be the last to withh o ld f rom hi m any not Turkish commerce. Constantinople is a mere depot tribute of admiration for his great services in this respect— from whence our goods are sent to Trebizond and elsewhere but he entirely forgot those principles when he drew a com -there is very little consumption of our commerce in the parison between the commercial systems of Russia and dominions of Turkey. Though I have no partiality for iurkey. Does he not know—and if he does know, why Russia—on the contrary, lam not sorry to see the great does he attempt to withdraw the attention of the public representative of the despotic principle humiliated and dis- from the fact—that the commercial s y s t em o f R uss i a i s honoured by the mean plottings and contrivanc es w hich he strictly prohibitory, and that the commercial system of has carried on through the whole of these transactions; yet, Turkey is as liberal as that of any country with which we let us not delude ourselves with any idea of danger result- have commercial relations ? He says that it is immaterial, ing to this country from Russian ascendancy. I maintain in a commercial point of view, whether the Turkish empire that all the commerce we have on the Black Sea is owing belongs to Russia or not, for we had no commerce i n th e Black Sea till Russia to Russian invasion. We never had an y commerce in thegot possession of the Crimea. Si r , I Black Sea until Russia took po ssession of the Crimea. never heard an argument that was less relevant. It i s not What is the fear, then, that Russia would exclude our true that the commerce of Turkey is immaterial to this commerce if she were to retain the province ? We need country. It is very material. Turkey has many natural not fear but that Russia will be as glad to send as her corn products that are essential to our mannfactures, and her then as she is now. Take the case of Russia on the other mineral and natural resources are every year becoming more side of Europe—take our trade with Russia in the Baltic. valuable. Ah, but, says the honourable member, you are Our exports, indeed, are not large, because Russia has fol- under a deception—you look to the returns which are on lowed the example we set her, and placed restrictions upon the table of the house, and which are made out as if all our manufactures, as we 30 or 40 years ago placed restric- the exports went to Turkey, whereas the fact is they all tions on her produce. But still for the native produce we go through Turkey. Now I ask the honourable gentle do take from her we pay her in sugar and other articles. I man, who thinks that these exports go through Turkey, therefore discard the idea altogether that Russia will dis- whether they would be allowed to go through Russia? courage our trade. What, on the other hand, is the pros- (Cheers.) Whether Turkey consumes them herself, or whe pect of our trade with Turkey? It is a country without awed. her she. acts as the channel through which they pass, still b You cannot go three miles out of Constantinople, or any it is eqully to the advantage of our commerce, and it be ef' the large towns, except on horseback. Constantinople comes, therefore, of great importance to England that has iso pavement—it has no lamps—it has no scavengers Turkey should remain an independent state. The hon. except the dogs; it has not a building of stone or brick. gentleman is a great advocate of the principle of non-inter- It is known as an historical fact, in the flowery language ference i and he has frequently said, "Do not you inter of Burke, that the Turks have been a curse and a bligtt, meddle in the affairs of other nations ; especially do not wherever they have come. Ido not defend Russia, but do dictate to them what form of government they are to not let us suppose that they will refuse to trade with us. adopt." But what is the matter that he has now especially Go to St. Petersburg—a city that may vie with London— committed to the deliberation of tle Government and to a city that has all the splendour and magnificence of Paris, the future consideration of Parliament? Why it is—what with a river twice the breadth of the Thames running are we to do with the Turkish empire ? how are we to dis through it. Let any man go to St. thor n Petersbu to Mos- pose of the destinies of the Mahomeclans, the Greeks, and cow, and then let him go to Constantinople, the oe built the other races that inhabit it ? He taunts us by telling on the most favoured situation on the face of the earth, us, " You are patching up a rickety building; you yield the other in the midst of every disadvantage, and yet see to the ignoble and vulgar prejudices which have been the contrast. Constantinople is, as an American traveller handed down to you by tradition ; but the fabric cannot has said, a city of boxes, with lids that are open all day last—it will fall to pieces —the Sultan must be expelled and shut at night. (Laughter.) Do not deceive yourselves from Europe—the Sultan, the army, and the two or three an d pretend that we are the natural allies of such a coun - millions of Turks who are now encam p ed in it ; it is hi g h try for the purpose of trade. I protest against the argu - time that England were considerin g how she will dispose ment that it is for the interest of England , or that w e are of those territories, when relieved from the blighting pre bound to maintain Turkey in possession of those rich and "nee of the Moslem." Stra nge d oc t r i ne thi s , f rom a per fertiler territories. There may be other political reasons, son who maintains the necessity of leaving foreign coun but I object to facts being brought forward which have no tries to decide on their own form of government. (Cheers.) foundation, in order to mislead the Engl ish p eo p le in re- But I do not admit that the Turkish empir e i s i n th a t s t a t e gard to their true interests. These points must be deve- of decay which he represents it to be in, or that the loped—they must be reasoned upo n—the y must be dwelt maintenance of the independence of Turk e y i s an object which cannot be successfully attained. The hon oura bl e on for the next few ye it will lead to war ears. The present question may be settled—l do not expect that gentleman wholly mispresents the state of T ur k e y d ur i ng the last 30 years. I assert, without fear of contradiction —I do not find any sensible people who ever did ex pect that. (Hear, and laughter.) A great deal has been from any man who knows the subject, that Turkey, far said about the power of Russia, and about the danger from going backward during the last 30 years, has made to England if Russia were allowed to occupy the countries greater improvement than most other countries during of the Bosphorus. I never shared that opinion. I wrote the same time. Compare Turkey now with what she upon that question eighteen years ago, at a time when was in the reign of Sultan Mahmoud—take either her people were much madder upon the question than they system of government or the prosperity of her inhabit are now—when the predecessor of the hon. member for ants—take her army—take her navy—take her admi- Birnaingham was crying out night after night for a war nistration of j ustice—take the prosperity of her agriculture with Russia. I had travelled in that country, and I ex- —take her improvements in such manufactures as she has pressed my opinion—an opinion which all the recent —take her commercial system—take her religious tolera events have only tended to confirm—that it was absurd to tion—l say, that in all these respects Turkey has made talk of Russia invading England. Why, she cannot move immense progress during the period which I have men an army to her own frontiers, except by the aid of foreign tioned. So far from going along with the hon. gentleman gold. I said so not long since in the City, that she could in that sort of political slan g —(cheers)—in which it is the no t make any aggressive movement, except by the aid of fashion of certain parties to denounce Turkey—so far from an English loan ; and nine months afterwards I attended talking of her as a dead body, or as one about to expire, in the same room in the city, to denounce a loan o f six and which cannot be kept alive, lam convinced that if we millions, which was about to be raised under the pretence can only keep out those who wish to get in —(loud cheers) that it was for the Moscow railroad. I had seen it myself —if we leave those who are in to deal with her affairs ac nearly six months before, and it was then nearly finished • cording to the way they are now dealing with them—l so that it was absurd to talk of the loan being intended venture to say that, so far as the seeds of internal clissolu for that scheme. The country is poor and thinly popu- tion are concerned, there is not a country with which lated—it is a mere series of villages ; how could it in- Turkey will not bear a favourable comparison, and that jure England or France? It may possess Turkey, be- she is likely to go on and to improve, if we can only keep cau se Turkey is in a state of decay, and when a country the hands of other people off her. Turkey, it must be re falls into decrepitude, its next neighbour will be sure to membered, has no Poland and no Circassia to distract her. take it if he can. I repudiate the notion of Russia in- (Cheers.) lam bound to say that, if ever I heard a speech va ding England. But what has been done, and by Eng - which was likely to discourage the Government in th e course of policy which they have been pursuin g —if ever I land, towards such of the Mahomedan p owers as we are neighbours to in India? We have not been a whit less heard a speech which was likely to damp the zeal of the unsc rupulous in our diplomacy towards them than Russia country in support of the Government, it is the s p eec h o f has been to Turkey, and especially in th e wa y that, within the honourable gentleman. lam happy to say it i s th e the last two years, we have dealt wit h Burmah. But only speech of the kind we have heard to-night, and I on l y however Russia may deal with Turkey , Ido not see what trust it will not mislead persons beyond the li m it s o f thi s right we have to interfere with a matte r so far removed country as it might mislead th em . (Ch eers .) I h ope th e from us. I believe that England would be ready to resist language we have heard will not excite abroad a feeling which would tend to mar the efforts of the Governm en t t o an attack from whatever quarter it mig ht come, and that Bent this question satisfactorily. I trust, rather, that the she would be ten times more powerful to resist than Russia, to attack. All the resources that we have in our vast ma- son m ee nnts of dfeelings which the general tone of the nufactures—all the appliances that we possess in our pro- c" whole worlddiscussion athis, evening has shown will prove to the digious steam-vessels, and in our mechanical skill, would _ what are the sentiments of the British Parlia ment, and what is the fixed determination of the British be turned in six months—ay, in six days—to the contriv na ion--(c to eers)----and that thcugh there may be perso ns ance of engines of destruction which would render us more t powerful than any other nation on the face of the earth. who notwish. see Russia extended to Turkey, yet that is the wish of the British nation, and that the Govern- All these are wanting in Russia ; they must come here for inept and the Parliament are determined to maintain the their steam-boats, or for the artisans to make them, and thependence of a country which we think it is important there is not a chance of their insuring us. But while I say a should be maintained in its independence both political word to those members who repre- this, let me address a and commercial. Cheers sent the manufacturing districts—let me give them a word . ( .1 We do not mean to go with occupy if war were the hon. gentleman into a rearrangement of the Turkish of advice as to the position we should 're • we do not attempt to dictate to barbarians, or eves, or Greeks, or Mussulmans, who shall be the go casion would be such as those who only remember the war °' vernors, or what shall be t i heir form of government. It has that commenced sixty years ago can have no conception been the policy of her Majesty's Government to give such I of. In the first place, we have a vast increase in material advice to the Turkish Government, with a view to the in wealth, and that wealth has greatly increased our menu tenni, improvement of that country, as, while it may on facturing population. Where we had one man dependent the one hand add to the strength of the Turkish empire, upon the raw materials supplied by foreign countries in may, on the other hand contribute to the happiness and 1793, we have twenty-five men now. Where we had 30,000,000 0r40,000,000 of exports then, we have 80,000,000 prosperity of the people under the rule of the Sultan. or 90,000,000 now. Let me tell my friends the members (Hear.) lam glad to say that those endeavours have been for the manufacturing towns, who talk so glibly of war attendeil with most beneficial consequences, and that that while I agree with them that in a war to defend wherever our consular arrangements have been extended in this kingdom England would bring all her resources to the Turkish empire we have seen tranquillity increased, bear, and would defend herself against all the world, yet justice better administered, oppression cease, and those I say that if England were to go further, and to engage in benefits conferred which it must be the anxious object of a continental war, you do not know what belligerents you the English Government to promote in every country where might have in six months after its declaration. (Hear.) vice may be considered worthy of attention. (Hear.) A war now would be attended with consequences of which Ism convinced that if that system be pursued, and if the present generation little think, or they would not talk England, united with France, shall say that Turkey shall of it so glibly. In the first place, you would have the not la molested by any other power, their dictum will be Americans, whose country was a mere infant in 1793, and enforced , lam satisfied that Turkey has within itself to whom we could then say, " You shall come to no part the elements of life and prosperity, and I believe that the in Europe except by our permission," and we could seize course adopted by her Majesty's Government is a sound their ships and press their crews at our pleasure. Now, if Policy, deserving th e a pp ro b a ti on o f the country, and war were to break out , what would be the first thing we u which it will be the duty of every British Government to should be called upon to do ? Why, we should be called Pursue. (Cheers.) upon by the Americans to disavow the right of search. Mr. H. D. SEYMOUR thought it would he seen from We could not refuse that, and that concession would place this debate that the spirit of the British people was not America at once as our rival in the carrying trade of dormant, but that they were prepared to support those Europe. And, re member, you have now repealed your Ministers who took an active p art in re p ressin g wanton navigation laws. In 1793 you could send out large fleets aggression. He regretted that the moral influence of this of merchant ships, under the ()envoy of ships of war, twice country had been very much weakened by our conduct in a year. You had the monopoly of the seas • and it did not the East , for he thought we had tak en e xactly the con matter to you when or how y our shi p s smiled; because other trary course to that adopted by the Romans ; we had at countries must wait upon you for their supplies. But tacked the weak on the simplest grounds ; for instance, what would be the case now, if you were to go to war? we had annexed Burmah because a petty officer was kept If you were engaged in war with a maritime power, they waiting for half an hour in the sun ; Ovhile, on the other would issue letters of marque to fleets of steamers, who hand, we forbore from any interference with powerful na could take refuge when they pleased in Stockholm or other tions which had committed the most wanton aggressions. neutral ports. Your insurances for freights would rise As ho understood, in the memorandum which had been addressed to Russia by her Majesty's Government, there at Lloyd's in proportion to the risk of captu re . How was no reference to the great aggression of that power would your manufacturers — how would your nu merous her entrance into the principalities. He was glad that and wealthy colonies consent to bring over their freights the Ministry contained a nobleman o f proper English in English bottoms, when Hamburgers and Frenchmen spirit, who, he was certain , would not cotiaent to swede were not subject to the same risk? Reme mber that a member of any Adminheretion unless a policy were fol the repeal of the navigation laws has thrown you open to the competition of the whole world io shipping, as in every- lowed motionwhic!hwascoielueive to the honour of this country. thing else. I must beg niy honourable friend the member The _ that the house at its rising do adjourn until • Friday was tti-n agreed to. for Newcastle—and Newcastle 'had often sent bellicose HACKNEY-CARRIAGES DUTIES BILL, members to this house—to remember that there is no port This bill w as which would suffer more severely, more in pTeportion to with a stt*mgnt, ins/te the magnitude of its commerce, than Newcastle would do,by him in a preceding part of the if we should go to war. But I beg pardon of the house sitt ng, want through the several preliminary t and s kess, for having gone into these eonsiderations. All I wish to was a rcad e t ird time and passed. say is that I think the Government have done wisely in ofG th Mo 15m! of Mr. E. EGERTON, copies were ordered of thoughtless men ; they have done a si e memorials addressed from time to time to ilucces , •ive disregarding the cry wisely in not listening - to the cry of the newspapers, sores -Ye .t rasters-General by the inh:ibit:srita of the towns of as if democracy t')lle -1 4Pou -r Preht 2cfac , l fi i I ,3 es eld, and Congleton, on the sub s of which profess the democratic principle,. . feet of the ever ained by war. The Government have e d e o n ne fo n r g t ht, J . he dates of P'S 41 arrangements of those districts, with the not only for the interests of the country but v rials _such memorials ; and of any replies to the memo they should plunge the , and of any instructions issued to the Post-office autho interests of themselves ; for if war rities ie relation t into war, the shallow men who now cry for . . to the further postal accommodation of coun country • wee ks call for the disgrace and the those districts. would in less than fax . Mr S mi n i s t er o wip le an the war. }avc , . ()THERON moved an a t cldreu to ibe, grown for a removal of the very SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. CUSTOM-HOUSI~~—Ana• 16. re x sl l,l ENTERED INWARDS.—The Foyle, from Je— vr e ; Guernsey ; City of Paris, Boulogne ; Ocean, Fb ore . Sydney Griffiths, Launceston ; Enterprise, Callao ; i v ee riette Auguste, Memel ; Alloh germ, Ibrail ; Con fiuec- ce: ' Bene vol b ep,, Dantzic ; Proven, Aalborg ; Flora, Thisted ; Stettin ; Johanna, Caroliuenseil ; Christina, NY ki° Arboe de Guernica, Porto Rico ; Gotha!) on Vriendschap, Skive ; Wave, Mademblik ; Ar b g n Soderham. Jens, 1O ENTERED OUTWARDS FOR LOADING.—Th e (w as, St. John's, Newfoundland • Windibrant, Stettin ; Havre ; 'City of Paris, Boulogne ; Foyle, Jersey Guernsey ; Alexander, Mauritius ; and 3.hiri,.Po( nore and Riga ; Saladin, Port Philip ; Constanti 1` t e, 3o Zealand • Drie Gebrced.ers, Amsterdam ; Constant Ann. Leghorn ; John Oldham, Constantinople and 0" d CLEARED OUTWARDS WITH CARGO.—The Gratitilad for Antwerp ; Unity, Rouen ; Rips. Monte 'Video o u s, Buenos Ayres; Manner's Ripe, Antwerp; Dos it i e rl : Seville ; Gazelle, Geelong ; Maria, Haurburgh ; "L' l 'cor Bremen ; Helene, Hamburgh ; Roberts, Antwerp i o tte terides, San Francisco ; Scotia, A n twerp ; Gill 01.1 :10; dam, Dunkirk ; Panther, Ostend ; Vesta, Ani s ' e— epiret Stadt Dordrecht, Dordt ; John Bull, Hamburgh Boulogne ; Fame, Calais ; Ceres, Rotterdam ; do. ; Mercury, Copenhagen anti St. Petersburgh• LIVERPOOL, AUG. 16. ken The Worland, Bremen to New York, was s P ° 25, lat. 45 N. long. 31 W. loot The Barkhill was spoken July 25, lat. 10 ' 31 W. en A ug. 91 The Ino, Liverpool to Alexandria, was spa off Tuskar. sP°ll" The John Hancock, Liverpool to New York, Wes Aug. 10, off Arklow. i n r 1 0 , The Inca, from Liverpool, was spoken Ark low. VESSELS SPOKEN WITS. fit ) at e vene, The Woodlark Duck, July 20, in Port . 160 barrels of oil. The Star, Emy, Nov 18, with 115 barrels of 1g 0f ,. , , , Daniel Watson Phelps, Feb. 13, with 150 ba r g e The Fortune, Lee, eight months out, with ou 01 of Th oil. to C e ' lelli The Harkaway (ship), of London, Jamaica JuneS., Hambu long. 34 W. 54 The E l i zabeth, rgh to California', 20th, Ilit'svloi ,i. long. 30 W. , no A steamer under French c o l our s, standing o 22d, lat. 1 S., long. 30 W. estf t44l The George Jer one , o f N ew Y or k, s tandiDg w July 31, lat. 48 N., long. 13 W. Qt le" O ' The Marion (barque), Waterford, bound to,d, V Sardine (ship), of N ew Y or k, s t an di ng Westw.- $ same d Th a. le, '' Vg. The y eron (brig), Swansea to Constantinop 10i l° lat. 49 N., long. 8 W. The Honduras, Liverpool to Quebec, July 2 1, 15 or off Cape Spear. boon Kos The Nil (French), apparently a whaler, 1011 AI ward, Aug. 12, lat. 46 N . ., long. 8 W. t o 0 0 11(g' The Dulve, of Portland ( s hip), s t a nding ward, Aug. 13, lat. 48 N. long. 7W. it., A 11, The Francis, Liverpoo l Ceylon, July 29, •" long. 14 W. 10)11 n, N %;_ e tc , The Ann, from a; - ~ _ne Ann, from Girgenti, Aug. 4, lat. 43 N. - ib Platian (barque), of Fowey, from Quebec, 0.1 grants, July 17, lat. 47 N., long. 60 W. g 0 The Kennedy, Quebec, July 17, l a t. 47 N., long a • v a 0 .i A ship, showing white burgee with red borde r, oe o the centre, sta:nding N.E., July 12, off D o uble ~ Shot Keys. st. 4 ' The Emma Watts, for Liverpool, July 20, I gill' J long. 81 W. g i p., The Avalanche, Leach, St. John's, N. 8., to ' 1, lat. 43 N., long. 47 W. A. 0 :s, The Bombay, Boston to Manilla, July 1 9 , 1 long. 59 W. AUSTRALIAN SHIPPING. ARRIVALS AT MELBOURNE. AO' From London, previous to Juno B—Anne CroPPer,' Duke of Northumb er l an d, V an G a l en , Earl Gr i .. re ijog„: guard, Cherusker, Appleton, Woodstock, Jame., r s Superior, Calliope, Ess e x, Po r t Wallace, °,-, 4 ,5. 91 .4,'' Simonetha, Bride, Elizabeth Thompson, t'"Fl Brightman, Hope, Strathfieldsaye, Will Vi lrB ntrv o , Caroline Chisholm, Lady Macnaghten Fortesell e lyr, den, Fortitude, Franklyn, Stata, Pet , Presiden t teren, Viceroy, Cupid, Emigrant. 8 1 ' 0 0 From Liverpool Marco Polo, Nederwardr J ' rff Queen, Prince Arthur, Albatross, Kate, Lucie V e ; Knox, Waconsta, Eagle, Passaronang, Castle, Mountaineer, Don Pedro, New For es t o °l Bride, Croukbane, Susan, Caesar, Sea, Hari" ,4 Octert From yr C e, Queen. 1 „;i1,(1 alcutta—Aurora, Marlborough, Low ell, a PP- Albert, Cowasjee Family, Rob Roy, Mann"' Mooltan. From Shanghai—Pacific. O . From Leith—Signet, W an d erer . tb S From Glasgow —Argaum, Sir William 31oless v- it ,, derer, Lavinia, Uncle Tom, T onga t a b oo , Wso° l3 " lomond, Tamerlane Amelia Cowan. From Dundee—Jessie, Elizabeth, El Dorail°'p o llet'," , ;" From Adelaide—Marchioness of Douro, Walter Scott, Lady Sandys, Dreadnought, mouth, Rolla. From Newcastle, New South Wales—lndus, From Southampton—Corsair. From Isle of Man—Vixen. From Oporto—Randolph. From Cadiz—Gazelle. From Mauritius—W. and M. Brown, Bluebell' COUNTRY MARKETS. .fv IPSWICH—Atra. 16. 11 7 ' 4 We had a very small attendance of farmers % t g t il P to-day, which is acc oun t e d f or b y the farmers b ei 9o fl i i occupied in harvest wor k . What chance sampleort' was sold did n o t s h are the further decl i ne rer op Mark-lane. eti ° o y .1 PER QITARTER. rsg 00 t 0 Wheat, red (old) 46 s t o 49 s B ar l e y, gr i n di n g ••• 405n0 Ditto (new) Ditto, white ( new ) 56 s t o 60 s Peas .................. pW . p Ditto (old) Barley, malting AVERAGES FOR THE WEEK ENDING AUG. 13, •: d Wheat Barley Oats 13 ~ 41s i A 15 „ 36s 1"- Beans Peas HULL- The following are the prese: —AUG. 16. int prices of grain ' 0 k SOL. 4 Peas, gray and blo c ' 46 Linseed, Black Sea , 4Q " Ditto Petersburgh ,'"t; . Ditto Riga and Al • angel ........... 'Ditto Konigsberg an 4 00 / 13 Wheat, English, red 52 to 54 Ditto white 54 to 56 Dantzie and Konigs berg Pomeranian and Ham- burgh Danish, Holstein, and _ _ Friesland 46 to 48 Russian and Odessa 42 to 46 Oats, English Ditto Danish Ditto Friesland Ditto Russian 2O to 22 Barley, malting Ditto grinding 27 to 30 Beans Ditto foreign Peas, white and yel. 40 to 42 Memel , ........•••• yt:, . t e 'Line. Hull 9/ - Syi Ditto fine for. 81 , ° „ 5 4 pat 4 n t Ditto inf. for. o ';', l - g tro hn ' tl er, Rapeseed ON — O,l T Rape cakes 105 0 ,gs t° . Tares, English ..... • ng On , Ou Ditto Guano.......foren 9541 t a n or I to Bones Rye Meal ......... 0 6 r Brls. -'0 . W e n d l°l White wheat 00s Od to 00s Od Os --- Redwheat 003 Od to Oos 01) nd 0 0" Ditto Oo s Od t o Oo s 0d.' .. 000 '- - -Ditto 008 Od to OOs Od) Barley oos 9d to Od aO P Ditto OGB Od to OOs 0400 s v - ' ..- - Ditto 00s Od to 00s Od 9 Bere lOB 64 to Oos 04 N (1 do' 217 Oats Ditto OOs Od to OOs 041000 - n it. 37 Ditto lOs 61 to 13s Od A d ISO - Pigs ...00s Od to 008 04 0 05 v to r Quantity sold at the highest prices :-... 0 0 00 barrels white wheat ; 0 red ; 0 barlei . 12 oats ; 0 pigs. t 1 0 r rjf Quantity of grain and number of pigs sold 10„- fe! iv ' Wheat, 21. Barley, 26. Bere, 00. Oats, sv" 6 :. Return of cattle sold for week ending Al; 0 0 Cows Pigs, 284. Sheep, 230. Co "' P'.g4 * , trs , 11 j I CORK.—Flour—First, 15s 64 to 165 6 d ; e - , n ocl ;, 9 9 seconds, 13s Od to 15s 6d ; households, 10 8 to , " 6 ,110 '.co; t l j 7s to lOs Od per cwt. Meal—lndian meal, 75 6,1 P e ip oatmeal, lls 64 to 128 ; wheatmeal, 10s 6d toils , 411 . ! Indian corn, 71 Os 04 to 71 lOs Od per toll. i n i Cl; t ':,ri l ta to 4! 5804 per ton. Hay—Farmers, 22s 64 to 3 ,0 u -; o , i', OOs; dealers, 42, Od to 4860 d ; average, Os Pe r i t : r s s °° /ic i i ‘ Farmers, 22s Od to 35s Od ; average, 005 ' d e t - 1:# 1 ..' 1 0 ' t ;, Oos Od ; average, Os. per ton. Bread— wiea tl o t e , p 11, Od ; household ditto, 6d to Oil per 41b.—Fresb, g e st Y,l l i , lid per lb. Eggs, 5s Od to Os Ud per hundrea,' p 01 3 _ , A0 10,, 4id to 8d ; mutton, 6d to 644 ; veal, 5d to 8 ,,„". 0 ; 13 , plen ( 10 `, 64 ; bacon, 7d to 84 ; sausages, 6d peril). - . I ' l 00 0 '04 land, 001. Os to 001 Os per ton ; Scotch b err , i , " :7 6 ,-„, ; 10 ,1 / Red, do., 30s per brl.—Potatoes, white, u ( „` „, - n u'110 5 ,:.,11 7d to 84. —Coals, Newport, 20s ; LydneY , '''','„ial r" V/ 04 per tou.—Whiskey, 25 0.p., 6s 104 per IraP,„,'', o cvl'i o o,. , Hides, market, 30s to 365; Salted, 30s to 38 : n r ii. Pe r yol.l; skins, 34d per lb.—Baugor slates 21. 178. 6d I- 3 . 5/. t ° - 0'; Fleece wool, 188 to 20s per stove.—HemP, z . 0103,, je, ton—Timber, Memel, 31. 15 s ; re d pine, 3 /. 1 1 ...:IS I° l#t 55. per tou ; deals, 19/. to 20/. Per liandre •viv--00," Si. to 101. 10s. per ton.—Tallow, 54s to 54s 611 per br).' 71. 10s to 0/. per cwt.-. Tar, Archangel, 195 ' 13-r Peruvian, 12/. Os to 001. per ton. CORK-Au G. 15. BIRTHS. OF A SON. 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