The Sun. — London, England, 1832-07-16 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. We have examined the lists` titibliSlied of the divisions on the Russian Dutch loan on Friday last, and have detected some errors in them. It is of importance that the movements of the expiring House of Commons should be watched, both with reference to the present state of par ties, and the duties which electors will be soon called upon to discharge. The majority which Ministers were enabled to bring to. the post, on the third reading of the Reform Bill, was from 110 to 120. This is, of course, the greatest strength they can muster, and when we consider of what discordant elements it is com posed, we are not surprised either at the weakness of the division on the former question on this subject, or at the little improvement which the present list displays. Many gentlemen were not such staunch Reformers as their constituents, and having been compelled by public opinion to support Ministers on that question, have lit tle hesitation in turtling round and giving them a kick, when the fear of displeasing their constituents is removed from their minds, or when they can find sufficient grounds on which to justify their opposition on particular votes, or to give them a fair excuse for indulg ing in their own feelings towards a liberal Ad ministration. The Irish Members also form no inconsiderable portion of the majority—the num ber of Gentlemen, who, like the Member for Middlesex, expect any act of Ministers to accord with their own precise views and opinions, is not small—and we shall not be surprised at seeing, before the end of the Session, the majo rity converted into a minority—and the country placed in jeopardy by an union of these discor dant parties. We hope, however, that ail trifling differences of opinion will give way to more serious considerations of the risk to which the victory we have so far won over the Borough mongering faction may be exposed, by the thoughtless conduct of those who contributed to it, and now seem, in some measure, insen sible to the advantages which should be reaped from it. Much, however, cannot be done by supporting Ministers on particular points, where it may be neither in their power to act upon their own principles, or to explain very sa tisfactorily to the public their reasons for depart ing from them ; and it should be always held in remembrance, that in nine cases out of ten, where they are compelled to propose objection able votes, which would never have originated in their own feeling, they are obliged to do so, by having inherited the bed of roses upon which they now repose. Sir Robert Peel, in the dis cussion of Friday night, taunted Lord Althorp with a willinfmess to throw up the Government, from the frightful responsibility involved in the present state of our finances, Ireland, the West Indies, and our foreign policy. Will the Right Hon. Baronet he kind enough to explain to the public to whom we are really indebted for the dangerous situation of our affairs ? In what state did he hand them over to the present Ad-i ministration ? The public are not blind ; they{ will i.;Low to whose account to place them wher the day of reckoning arrives.—Morn. Citron. While Parliament is occupied with intermi-' noble discussions on the subject of tithes, it may he worth while to inquire what advantages are. derived by the people from the Ministration of the Members of the Established Church. That much benefit might be derived from intelligent teachers of the people is beyond a doubt ; but we fear that the lessons the people at present rive from their teachers are in general calculatedt to debase rather than improve them. In nothing, perhaps, do they injure the people more than' by inculcating the doctrine that privation and po- ; verty are favourable to virtue. Several influential Clergymen of the Church of Scotland have of late set their faces. against this pestiferous doc-i. trine, and laboured to show that poverty is thej parent of crime ; and that whatever improves the circumstances of the people, facilitates their pro-- gress in religion and virtue. We have been led! to these remarks by the following account which Mr. Cobbett gives, in his Register of this dayi of the Sermon he heard on Sunday the &hi instant, at Micheldever, in Hampshire. The! name of the clergyman is Clarke : " He took his text," says Mr. Cobbett, " from the 10thi chapter of the Book of Numbers, and it consisted of the 29th verse, in the following words :—' And Moses said unto Hobab the son of Raguel, the Midianite, INlci. , ee . l father-in-law, We are journeying unto the place of which the Lord said, I will give it you : come thou with us, and we will do thee gooel ; for the Lord bath spoken good concerning Israel.' This verse contains a simple historical fact. Moses wanted his brother-in-law to go with him to a fine country ; to assist him as a guide in the wilderness,. and he encouraged him to hope that he will derive great' good from the journey, seeing that the Lord had promised to give the country to Moses and his people. There is not the smallest allusion here to anything of a spiritual na-• ture. The fact has, to us, very little interesting in it ; and, when the parson gave out the text, I could not for the life of me imagine how the man would make it at all apply to any moral or Christian purpose. What then was my surprise when I found that he had cliff covered that this passage was entirely typical; that the invitation from Moses to Hobab was meant that the latter was to abandon all earthly connexions, and all earthly good ; that he was all his lifelong to live in suffer ing without wailing, in order that, after this life, he might enjoy the kingdom of Heaven ! Was there ever anything in this world more contrary to the meaning of the words? The fact being, that the very foundation of the invitation of Moses is, that the result will be wot Idly ; gocd to Hobab ! But is my memory correct? It is per: . fectly so. A gentleman who was with me took particular notice of this, and will vouch for the correctness of this' substantial report. " But the context will prove it. In the course of his statement he cited the 14th chapter of Luke, 26th verse, where Christ says, If any man come to me and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple,' He cited various passages of scripture, , inculcating the necessity of constant privations, sacrifices and sufferings during this life, in order to be entitled to admission into the kingdom of heaven. And all this he: contrived to spin out of the simple historical fact, that: Moses invited Hobab, his brother-in-law, to go with him to the promised land, in order that he might there enjoy , the good things of this world ! I know that I am per fectly correct as to the drift and substance of the sermon ; and I know that the parson will not contradict me. " With regard to this doctrine of the necessity of worldly privations, sacrifice, and sufferings, in order to ensure eternal life, it is at once the most absurd and the " n ot mischievous that ever was held, and the most at variance with the whole tenor of the holy scriptures. It might, indeed, be proper enough for a congregation which, upon the whole, was the very poorest that my eyes ever beheld ; the worst dressed ; the most miserable in countenance, giving evidence of the worst living. With. in these few years I have been in more than a hundred village churches in the south and west of England. 1 have always looked at the congregation with a very scrutinizing eye, and I would declare upon my oath, that I believe this congregation to be the poorest that I ever beheld. Even amongst the young worn-n there was scarcely one dressed as she ought to have been. I do not say this at all out of prejudice. The farms are very large in the parish ; and I have always observed, and hare said it a hundred times over, that where this is the case, and where the farmers are opulent, the labourers are miserable. I do not impute blame either to Sir Thomas Baring, the owner of the parish, or to the farmers who occupy the lands ; the evil arises out of the system itself. Taxation pres'es everywhere ; but where the farms are small, it can not be made to fall so heavily upon the labourers. When I came from the church, I went into a poor man's dwell ing to wait far my chaise. I wished to God that Lord Grey could have seen that dwelling; so complete a want of everything necessary to comfort I do not think I ever saw to all my life. My heart was sunk within me. A young man and young wife, and three small children. Toe faces of the father and mother were like oak boards, Emu sheer hardship. The wife had been to church ; I saw her there. The youngest child appeared to be ill ; and she wis hugging it very close to her bosom. I, look ing at her very inquisitively said, ' Should yon think it right for your husband to hate you and your children, for the sake of getting to heaven himself?' No, indeed,' she said in great haste, and the husband ratified the opi nion, that he should never go to heaven on such terms. Of all the virtues which I have most admired in the country labourers and their wives, is their excessive fond ness for their children. This fondness very often induces him to things injurious to the children themselves; but, gracious God, what is thew to be given in exchange for it !" The circulation of a Newspaper among these people would benefit them more in four weeks than such preachers in four years. In fact, no man of education would think of putting in print such nonsense as the sermon described by Mr. Cobbett appears to have been. However, we have not space to do justice to this subject at present.—Morning Chronicle. Of the course persevered in by the King's Ministers, with regard to the Irish tithe, we can say little more than that it utterly amazes their own most cordial and considerate supporters. Infatuation appears to be but a feeble word when we would describe Mr. Stanley's conduct. What ! compel the people universally to bind them selves by fresh engagements to the payment of an impost, which they have resolved universally to shake off ! Read the accounts from Ireland. No man, but here and there, and that, in very few instances, an individual, on friendly habits with some neighbouring clergyman, ever thinks of paying tithe, either to the church or to a lay impropriator. If he does, what happens? All his labourers forsake him ; his hay rots upon the ground. If a dairyman, his cows die under their load of milk, untouched. If a mail-coach contractor, with sixty or eighty horses on his premises, he may harness, feed, and groom them with his own hands, for not a stable boy will attend them. In the case of Lord Cloncurry, the hest landlord, perhaps, throughout the whole of Ireland, and a nobleman of the most consis tent and unblemished patriotism, not a workman among a half-fed population, would remain to get in his hay-crop, even at harvest wages, for no reason but that Lord Cloncurry had thought fit to pay his own tithe to his own clergyman. We are asked, is not this a fright ful state of things ? To be sure it is, most frightful. Bu " what is to be done ?" for that question we have often asked, and never vet has it received a rational answer from Mr. Stanley or the Government. What then can he done with a whole nation whose opposition to tithe is so rooted and unanimous, that they will neither pay tithe themselves nor buy the cattle or goods of others distrained for default of payment, nor even so much as accept high wages for their la bour fro-a those who do pay tithe ? Coerce them ! force them to buy cattle which they do not want ! force men to take wages whether they will or not ! Force, not individuals, but hun dreds of thousands, to do all this, for such is the scheme of making the Composition Act " com pulsory," if indeed there be any serious notion of executing such an act. Now we confess again this condition of things to be most appalling. Call it conspiracy if you please—the conspiracy of millions—but can it he put down by an ad verse conspiracy of units ? We fear, never. This obstinacy of the people of Ireland, as some would call it, may be taken for an exact measure of the degree of ruin into which the whole tithe system has fallen, and as evidence that it cannot ley any human power be restored. How childish, then, to legislate by paradoxes. How inconsistent to declare in one breath, that Irish tithe must be extinguished, or " commuted " (which seems to be the favourite phrase of Mr. Crampton), and in the very next, that the Tithe Composition Act is to be made " compulsory and permanent " throughout Ireland. Why, there never was a Parliamentary abortion to be compared with this. Would it not be wiser to take the warning held out by the Member for Kerry, " while yuu can secure the life interest of the Protestant clergy, do so—next year it may be too late ?" As for Mr. Lefroy's as sumption, that Parliament can interfere no fur ther with tithe or church land than to alter the rateable distribution of it within the body of the Church itself, it is at this time of day no better than a grotesque absurdity. The nation will meddle with, not merely the distribution, but the amount, as the Protestant community of Ireland is now enormously over-parsoned and over-bishopped ; so if bishops and parsons were both reduced in number to a just ratio with the population of the Established Church, they would, without an equivalent reduction of reve nue, be both iniquitously overpaid. In one particular the inefficiency of the present Bill of Mr. Stanley is as notorious, with reference to its professed object, as in others the Bill is obnox ious and impolitic. The clergy are starving, and it will not feed them,—the people are ex cited, and it will but irritate them the more. No such measure as this, conceissd in such utter darkness and helplesness, will tend aught but to convulse an exasperated country.— Times. We find that many of those Members who voted for the Russian-Dutch-loan job endeavour to excuse themselves on the ground that if they had not done so the Ministry would have re signed. This is a very good reason for an ex pectant of the Ministry to give, but a very bad one for a Representative of the people. Those Members who acknowledge the iniquity of the transaction, and yet voted in support of it, evince a greater love of party than of principle, and admit that the possession of place by a par ticular set of men is of more importance in their eyes than the interests of the country. But we ask why, if Ministers were beaten on the Rus sian-Dutch-loan job, should they have resigned ? Are they so compromised with the Russian party in England that they feel themselves pledged to act as if the interests of Russia were dearer to them than those of their own coun try ? And we also ask why is it to be sup posed, that under any set of Ministers, the country is to go to ruin with the Reform Bill in its hands ? Have not the people of England been continually told by the reform Press that the (Treat advantage of the Reform Bill would be to make it a matter of little consequence who were Ministers, because the people would always have an effective and constitutional control over the Government ? And, certainly, if the Bill does not effect that good, it is of little worth. Besides, if jobs which cost this over-taxed na tion millions of money, like the one in question, and the guarantee of the two millions to the new Greek Government—another job, also for the benefit of Russia ;—we say, if such costly jobs as would cause a national outcry against Tories be the fruits of a Whig Government, what are we the better for the professions of re trenchment and economy on the part of the Whigs ? What we want to see is, not a Tory nor a Whig Government firmly established for the purpose of enriching and aggrandising itself by the impoverishment of the country—we want to see such au Administration as will give the people onod and cheap government. If the Parliament be able to turn out a Whig Ministry, for an ex travagant and wasteful expenditure of the public money, the same parliament is also able to turn out any Tory profligates that might succeed them. Can we forget that the present Ministry dismissed from office Sir Henry Parnell for not voting against his conscience on the Russian Dutch loan job ? Can we forget that Sir Francis Bur dett, in voting for it on a former occasion, was reported to have said he would vote that black was white" rather than the Ministry should go out before the Reform Bill was car ried ? Well, the Reform Bill is carried, and we should like to know what reason there is why Members who profess to be advocates for econo my and retrenchment should now continue to vote that " black is white" at the expense of millions to the nation ? Why should Mr. Hume, for instance—whose opinions are known to be as directly opposed to the job as ours can be—why should that Hon. :Wernher, who fights with conscie n ti ou s p er ti na city to save a few pounds in an a rmy o r navy es timate—why should he sanction, by even his silent vote, a job which • transfers millions of the people's money to the Exchequer of the Russian tyrant ? is not this " straining at a knat and swallowing a camel ?" As to " national honour," it is a complete farce while Russia is allowed to violate faith both towards this country and Poland. We do not admire their patriotism who regard the intrigues of party more than the public interests.—Morn ing Herald. SECON 0 EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. IMPERIA LPARLIAMENT THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Aldermen VENABLES brought up the Report of the Committee on the City of London Police Bill. The Bill was then reed a second time. Mr. TENNYSON presented a petition from the bo rough he represented (Stamford), complaining of the misconduct of the Corporation of that borough. The Corporation, which was a perfectly close one, was pos sessed of various privileges and divers lands, and the peti tioners complained that the members of it appropriated the most part of the produce of the lands for their own benefit, by granting long leases to members of their own body at very small rents, and that even those rents were not applied to the improvement of tho b trough, but for their own individual benefit; that the burgesses were ig norant by what authority the corporation acted, as all ap plications to inspect the charters had been refused, and that the corporation had very considerably raised the tolls, to the great injury of persons bringing produce to market. The mayor and aldermen, being justices, were charged with various acts of injustice, and with being strong politic ii partizans of a Noble Lord who resided in the neighbour hood, and they prayed that the House would call for the production of the charters, and grant such relief as they might deem fit. The petition was ordered to be printed. 'Mr. HEY WOOD presented two petitions from reli gious congregations in Lancashire, in favour of the Go vernno nt plan of education in Ireland. O'CONNOR DON presented a petit:on from a parish in the county of Sligo, in favour of the abolition of tithes. Mr. TIiIeKNESSE presented a petition from Wigan, in Lancashire, against the Vagrant Removal Bill. Mr. EWARI" moved that each clerk of the peace, treasurer, and town clerk of every county, city, &c., in England, be ordered to make out a return of the number of Irish and Scotch poor passed to Ireland annually since 1520,. together with the charges of such removals. 01 Mr. J. HOPE presented a petition from Cupar in Fife, against the Factories Bill. Mr. HUAIE presented a petition from Belfast, signed by the President of the Chamber of Commerce and the principal merchants of that city, complaining of the practice of the Irish Court of Admiralty ailiowing seamen to detain ships for the purpose of extorting money. Mr. CRANIPTON, in consequence of the Hon. M,m ber for Middlesex having presented a similar petition on a previous day, had written over to Ireland on the subject of that petition, and he was in hopes in a few days of laying some information before the House. The practice of the Court of Admiralty in Ireland was exactly the same as in England. He admitted that abuses might exist, that they did exist up to a certain period there could he no doubt, but since the new Judge of that Court had been ap pointed those abuses he believed had ceased to exist. Mr. ROBINSON agreed with the Learned Solicitor General for Ireland, that the practice of the Admiralty Courts in England and Ireland were the sane, and thought there must be some mistake in the statements of the petition. After some observations from Mr. RurnvEN and Mr. HUME the petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. HUME presented a petition from Airlie, against any tax on steam carriages. Colonel PERCEVAL presented a pAition from Sir Harcourt Lees, of the county of Dublin, complaining of the present state of Ireland, and praying the House to provide for the safety of Ireland and the Established Church by rejecting the Irish Reform Bill. Mr. RYDER presented petitions in favour of the better observance of the Sabbath, from a parish in Bedfordshire, from East Retford, and from Luxford. Mr. BARING said, though he was still of opinion that the Privilege of Parliament Bill was of very great importance, he saw, from the number of ❑otices for atnendments on it in the book that it would take up a considerable time in discus-ion ;he would, therefore now state, that in cons, (pence of the advanced period of the Ses sion, and the press of public business, to say nothing of the st ite of health in the .Matropulis, he would not press that Bill forward this year ; he would therefore, move that the Order of the Day fur its second reading be discharged, and fixed for the Ist of October. Lord ALTHOItP was glad that the Hon. Gentleman had seen it fit to take that course of which he had given notice. He hoped, as it would be a great help iu further ing the business in the House, that, through courtesy, it would allow him, o❑ the part of Government, to take precedence of all other business on the future Wednesdays of the Session. Mr. PORTMAN said there was a motion fixed for Wednesday, which had stood over for two years, viz, the Highway Act. He hoped Lord Althorp would allow it to come on before his own motions. Mr. CAMPBELL trusted that he might be allowed to take that opportunity of stating that he did not mea❑ to press the General Registry Bill during the present Session. It stood first in the Orders of the Day for Wednesday, but he would then only move that it be read a second time, to have it com mitted pro forma in order that certain amendments might be introduced into it which were -uggested by the Select Committee who :lad that day concluded their labours. He thought the Bill one of very great importance, and wished that it should be before the public in order that they might the better understand it. Sir C. WETHERELL trusted that the Honourable Gentleman would not press the Bill upon the House at all at present. If so, he must oppose it. The LORD ADVOCATE moved the Order of the Day for taking into consideration the Lords' Amendments to the Scotch Reform Bill, when they were agreed to without comment. Lord ALTHORP then moved that the Order of the Day for the House going into Committee on the Russian Loan be read. Mr. BARING considered it his duty, in that state of the proceedings, to make a few observations on the general question. Undoubtedly it was impossible not to admit that every Member, like himself, would feel great reluct ance in refusing the sanction of Parliament to any engage ment deliberately entered into by the Ministers of the Cl own. And although he was aware that cases had oc curred in which that course had been adopted, very likely with propriety, yet he felt that a very strong case required to be made out to justify such a procedure. This question involved consideration s of very great con stitufonal importance. Government, on the different occasions when it had been brought b e f ore t h e House, had very slender majorities, attain e d too b y a threat di rected against their friends, that if they did not stand by them they would resign. It was impossible n o t to per ceive the reluctance with which the supporters of Govern ment had followed the Noble Lord.—(Cries of No, no.) He did not wish to argue the question unfairly. He did not mean to prejudge the que s ti on, w h et h er Government had the means of making out a go o d case t o the satisfaction of the House; but his object was to give the Noble Lord an opportunity of giving the circumstances of justification which their conduct required. His opinion was, on the paper, that Russia had no claim to the loan in question. The Noble Lord himself confessed he had come to his opinion reluctantly, and the claims of Russia de pended on the dry letter of the treaty ; but would it not lia the grossest violation of the duty of that House to vote away five and a half millions of sterling money, merely upon the opinion of the law officers of the crown, founded on an equitable conviction, arising merely out of the spirit of the transaction, and Lyon considerations which had never been stated to the House ? Was it fitting to vote the public money on such vague assurances, the treaty not being, on the face of it, obligatory on the country ? He wished to have the papers which attended the negociations produced before the House. And although they were founded on trans actions which had occurred seventen years ago, yet he could not see any valid objection to their production. If he had intruded to embarrass the Government as it was called, be would leave that Government in the hands of the Hon. Member for Middlesex, because those who voted against Ministers on the former occasion, would no doubt also vote to night against the payment of the money, which was the object of that Hon. Member's motion. But he wished to avoid that, and it was upon this ground that he wished not to be obliged to do that which was cer trinly a constitutional duty in refusing money to the Crown upon such an occasion. The object of the mo tion of the Hon. Member fur Middlesex was simply not to pay she money.—(A Member here said something to Mr. Baring•) His Hon. Friend had reminded hint that the Honourable Member for Middlesex had voted both ways—( Hear)—and how he could make it appear consistent to vow that the last payment was properly made, and yet to move that no more be paid, he could not tell. If the Noble Lord said " I will give you no further information, bat you shall say yea and nay in the present state of things," he, for one, should feel it his duty to vote against the peyinent—(Hear)—because he should feel that the Ministers of the Crown bad done gross injustice to the Crown to come with its engagements to Parliament, and yet to refuse that Parliament the necessary information, If the Noble Nord could show not only that there was this obligation binding on the country but that there was even a doubt upon the subject, he would then vote in fa vour of the creditor, and against the debtor. The position of the case seemed to be this ;—the House had refuted to vote that the last payment was contrary to law, and they were now proceeding to go into a Committee for the purpose of granting the money. The Minis ters who proposed it admitted that, as the force of the treaty, they had no case that the treaty was as dis tinct as could be, that the money was to be paid —not in the contingescy of Belgium being taken by France, but simply in the event of its being separated from Holland, and then the obligation was to cease. The Ministers said,' " We did think as you. think ; we looked at the terms of the treaty, and found that it was so ; but when we came to consider the negotiations at the time, and what is called the spirit of the the whole trans action, we thought differently." It was said the spirit of the negotiation was directed against France. Now there was no part of the Treaty which, Lad any reference to France. If the Noble Lord could produce any correspondence, or other documents, to show that it did, then he (Mr. Baring) might alter his opinion. Tien, it was said that the construction of the treaty was, that the plytnent la as to cease in case the two countries should be separated by foreign invasion, and not by inter. nal commotion; but not one word o, that appeared in the treaty. If there were any documents which would give it that construction, the House ought to be in the possession of them, or if the Goverament had requested Russia to consent to the separation, merely for the sake of establishing peace in Europe, and upon the understand ing that Russia should not be a loser by the separation, that would be ground of justification, although a different one. He could not see what difficulty there could be on the part of the Noble Lord, if he wished the House to grant this loan, or for its Members to stand well with their coastituennts, to grant the papers which he required. The Noble Lord (the Paymaster of the Forces) ha•l stated distinctly, in a speech on a late occasion, that the House was asked to pass a vote of censure on Govern ment, without having papers before it which would, make explicit the whole transaction, and on which the interpre tation of the treaty in a great measure depended ; admit ting, therefore, that the House had not before it all the informatio❑ it ought to have. The question now was not a vote of censure ; for he did not call upon the House to adopt such a couriie, but nothing more than asking for that which Ministers had stated they bad, and the knowledge of which was necessary to the enabling of the House to be aware of all the facts upon which it granted the money. The Hon. Member con eluded by moving, as an amendment to the motion, that the House resolve itself into a Committee on the Russian Dutch Loan ; that an humble Address be presented to his Mdj,:sty, praying that he would be graciously pleased to direct that there be laid before the House copies and extracts of any documents relating to the convention at Vienna on the 19th of May, 1815, between Great Britain, Russia, and the Netherlands, explanatory of the spirit or objects of that convention. Mr. ROBINSON seconded the motion, and wa3 (LEFT srEAKING). HOUSE OF LORDS. The Duke of RUTLAND presented a petition from Mrs. Moffatt, on the subject of her Divorce Bill. Earl GREY laid on the table, by command of his Ma jesty, certain papers relative to the treaty of commerce and navigation between this country and Hamburg. Lord RADNCR presented a petition from the prisoners in the Court of King's Bench, praying that the Coroner's Court may be made an open Court. Lord FINGAL presented a petition from a place in the county of Meath, praying for a composition of the tithes. Lord MELBOURNE laid on the table certain returns relative to the monthly pelice in Ireland. Lord GLENGAL said, that as so much had been said at different times on this subj(wt, he thought himself justi fied in moving (which he did) that the papers might be printed.—Ordered to be printed. Lord RADNOR moved the third reading of the Cor porate Funds Bill. Lord ELDON said that this Bill in the very words of it had been introduced into the House about two yeats ag,“, and unanimously rejected. He thought it his duty to say he could not give it his support. People ought to be at liberty t i apply their funds as they thought proper subjects to the law of the country. This Bill proceeded, us it appeared to him, upon an entire mistake of the present law. Lord RADNOR said, that the object of the Bill was to prevent persons from jobbing on election occasions with corporate funds. Lord ELDON hoped, as that was the object of the Bill, and as the Noble Lord, no doubt, disliked jobbing exceed ingly in corporate funds, he would have no objection to go to the Court of Chancery for an order front the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, upon the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, &c. of the City of London, compelling them to refund the 3,000/. which they had just misapplied in a dinner given by them to the advocates of the great Reform Bill ; also if the ladies were to be supposed to have influence on election occa sion, (which no doubt they were, as a ball was advertised to he given to them,) compelling the Lord Mayor, &c. to return to the corporate coffers the 1,200/., which it was said this ball to the City ladies was to cost. Bill read a third time. Mr. BERNAL and others brought up the Scotch Re fat-in Bill, with the amendments agreed to, the Irish Linen Bills, and the Scotch Trespass Game Bill. Mr. TIERNEY brought up copies of all cases decided under the Tax Acts. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY gave notice, that to-morrow night he would make some inquiries relative to the Protocol by the Three Powers, and the great expense attending the order to place Otho, Prince of Bavaria, on the throne of Greece, became, when the House considered the large sum which the country was called on at present to pay, on account of the Dutch Loan, it, in connection with the expense to which he had just alluded, and the alarming state in which the country now was, rendered it absolutely necessary their Lordships should have some information on inquiries he meant to submit. The LORD CHANCELLOR suggested that to-mor row would be a very inconvenient day for the Noble Mar quis to name, inasmuch as it was the day appointed for his Majesty to receive the Recorder's Report. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, his enquiries would not occupy many minutes. Lord GODERICH said, it was probable that his Noble Friend (Earl Grey) who bad just left this Ho 4 e) would not be in attendance to-morrow. — The LORD CHANCELLOR suggested Thursday, as a day that might be convenient. The Alarquis of LONDONDERRY, after consulting with the Duke of Wellington and one or two other Noble Lords, gave notice that he should put his questions on Wednesday. Lord DUNDAS presented, as we understood, a peti tion from Mr. John Wright, which stated that he, as agent in town, for conducting the Sunderland Dock Bill through Parliament, was this day, on withdrawing from the Committee-room, in their Lordships' House, violently struck in the fair, by Mr. James Allen, who was likewise in attendance on the Committee, but adverse to the passing of this Bill, praying that the petioner might be heard at their Lordships' Bar. Mr. WRIGHT was then examined at the Bar, and de posed to what we have already mentioned. James Allison was then ordered to attend to-morrow at two o'clock at their Lordships' bar. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that it was necessary to have the attendance of Allison at two o'clock, as the Recorder's report being received would not allow of his being on tha Woolsack at that hour. MOFFAT'S DIVORCE BILL. The second reading of this Bill having been moved, Lord ELDON rose, and entered at great length into circumstances of the case. (LEFT SITTING). POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION HO USE. RURAL SIMPLICITY.—Edward Walsh, an attor ney's apprentice, and the son of a farmer, who re sides near Glastonbury, in Somerset.hire, was charged with being the father of an illegitimate child by Rosa Hunt. The Somersetshire parish officers stated, that they had followed the defendant to town, he having, to the surprize of his neighbours, cut and run, al though possessed of abundant means of discharg ing the incidental expences. Upon being appre hended, he said that he would take his oath that he was not the father of the child, and that the whole matter was a mistake. The LORD MAYOR—What did he mean by a mis take ? Does he mean to say the girl is mistaken in saying that she is pregnant ? The Officer—No, my Lord, but he says she is mistaken in supposing him to be the father, although she swears he is the only man she ever knew inti mately, and she is believed by every one. The LORD MAYOR—I am sorry to see that in the country they are very clever at some of our worst town tricks. The defendant said he did not mean to impute to the girl the vice of indiscriminate prostitution, but she certainly had in this matter confounded him with another person. The mistake arose out of an odd circumstance. They had been at a " hop" together one night, where a great deal of jovial work went forward, and cider and gooseberry-wine passed round rather too quickly. In the midst of the fun Rosa promised to make him happy, and a friend of his, one Thomas Morris, who was of the company, obtained a promise of a similar kind from another girl. It happened that the two young wo men were so overpowered by the liquor, as not to be able to distinguish between the persons of their lovers, who, by way of a lark, agreed to an exchange of sweethearts, so that Tom Morris became the father of the child. The other girl proved more lucky, but she knew nothing yet of the mistake. Rosa Hunt said that the story was trumped up for the purpose of throwing a slur upon her oath. It was true she had been induced to drink, or she would not have committed the other error ; but she was not so far gone as not toknow the sound of the defendant's voice. The LORD MAYOR—Were you so far gone as not to see him ? Rosa—The night was as dark as pitch, so that the four of us fell into a slough before we got home. — (Laughter.) The Defendant—And then it was that Tom Mor ris and I changed girls, but the mischief was done before that. If the child was mine I wouldn't let any man pay a halfpenny towards its support, but I don't fancy being a father when, by the virtue of my oath, I never touched the mother. Now tell the truth, Rosa, hasn't Tom Morris been always af ter you since the accident ? Rosa—He was always after me before it, but you know I preferred you—hut you're a pair of bad ones, and I can to-morrow get a better than either of you : hut one or other of you must pay for the child, I'm sure I don't care which. LORD MAYOR—WeII, upon my word, both ladies and gentlemen are a very instructive sample of rus tic simplicity, and have contrived to bring to town a case which is quite hard enough to puzzle a Lord Mayor. But what does Mr. Thomas Morris say to this? He seems to be a necessary evidence. The officers said, that Mr. Morris, upon being questioned upon the subject, declared that, as a man of honour, he considered himself bound to be silent. —(A laugh.) Upon being pressed, he said he was not aware that on the night in question any thing had occurred between him and the young ladies of a more parti cular kind than usual, except falling in the ditch. The LORD MAYOR—I fear it will be difficult to fix the pa'ernity in this case. _ The officer—The girl swears the voice was that of the defendant. The defendant—That's all nonsense. Tom imi tated my voice, and we were all tipsy together. I'll subpoena him, and have an oath out of him at any rate : it's too bad that I should be charged with an other's brats. The LORD MAYOR —You richly deserve it. The deception was a base one, and it was you that pro posed it, but in my opinion it did not succeed. The women are much more cunning in their cups than the men, and you may depend upon it, that though you thought you had the wrong woman, she had the right m:in.—(Laughter.) Go home, young man, and bring up your child properly and religiously— you see what fools the women can make of us in the broad light of day I How then do you think we can escape them in the daii: ? The officers then accompanied the defendant from the Justice-room, but it was generally believed that an immediate settlement would save the Bench of Magistrates the ridiculous form of confirming the paternity. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Monsieur Antonio Andre Ramage, a travelling French merchanr, was charged with having kicked and cuffed the body of Mynheer Von Reider, importer of German curiosities. _ The cause of the quarrel, as well as could be gathered from the voluble jargon of the complai nant, who, however, seemed to pride himself on his proficiency in the English language, appeared to have arisen from some disparaging remarks which Mynheer Von Raider applied to the country of Monsieur Ramage. The dispute ran high, and as Monsieur's stock of English was by no means so extensive as Mynheer's, he, in return for the " damn your eye" of his antagonist, placed his hand in a sig nificant manner on that part of his person where, according to Sir Hudibras, honour is lodged. This was instantly resented by the German, who seized a glass of hot whisky and water, and flung it in his face, the pain of which caused the Frenchman to caper about the room like a dancing-master, and, as he said, " to cause both his eyes to make very most water." The German put himself in a fighting at titude, and the Frenchman consented to decide the matter according to the English fashion. They both stripped and came into the middle of the rootn where they stood s winging their arms about like the sails of a mill for a quarter of an hour, without inflicting any blows on each other. At last the German having by chance caught the Frenchman a slap with the back part of his hand, the Frenchman rushed on him, and, being the " stronger vessel," threw him down and himself upon him, in order to improve his advantage accord lug to the Conti nenta l f as hi on , by thumping the German's head a ga i nst t h e fl oor . This being against one of the fundam enta l rules fe r u could y d '' c)v ' fi s t Ce he o understanduti )hylte,. standers interfered, and the discomfited German, having got the worst of the bout, brought his rival before the Magistrate, to balance the account. " Pardonnez moi, Sare," said the Frenchman, .),. i gesticulating damn vl liar, and at t on b d e ms a m uyi o d s he t er- e as n am e l r e g i.c e n t o i c cHk m em a ce n a. n l l e r rn , fe " sva d oy i n s , D e n, Sate, he knock von box in d the matter knockh o 1 a, I do vi t y n o o u t know a great ymiiapti,a d i e n a a l n ' t b i o lt x t bat been I t sal my belly, and von, two, in my nose; so I knock his bottom over top, and every bo m d s y ahtot s eu a rl y do , ua H t ah I very (rood, box him yell vid your foot, and de certaine mevce%ovr ' bail. o o, r ii n lg f r : 4l l‘ . n hi t r l i t e l ee i r s e . s l ss } D oti l i Iloora:lavrEtleedatateriiifirr:s;eoga,itihddhatt'ailbilthdefoirl nt:3elhlertottrol This suggestion,was complied with, and the partly% made up the matter without the help of the Ma gistrate. • , A boy, named Jones, was charged with unlaw fully selling the Cosmopolite penny publicatien,which the Stamp-office has failed in their attempt to sup•t press. The charge having been proved, the de fendant, who is a boy only twelve years of age, on being asked if he would promise not to sell any more if he were liberated, replied, I'll make no pro mise of the kind, for the moment I get out I shall commence again. In answer to the question by whom he was employed, he said he would give no information on that point, and that he was prepared to meet the punishment that the Magistrate might think fit to inflict on him. The Magistrate said that it would be more con sonant with his feelings to let a boy of his tender years go about his business if he promised not to break the law. Defendant—That I shall make no promise about. Magistrate—l shall commit you for three months, the full period. Defelidant—l don't care for that. CIVIL DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY. The following is the new construction of the civil de partment of the navy, on the plan proposed by Sir James Graham, and adopted by Parliament : First Secretary of the Admiralty, Captain the Hon. George Elliott, C.B. R.N. ; Second Secretary, John Barrow, Esq. LL.D. F.R.S. ; Private Secretary to the First Lord of the Admiralty, Major George Graham ; Surveyor of the Navy, Captain William Symonds ; Ac countant. General of the Navy, John Thos. Briggs, Esq. ; Storekeeper-General, the Hon. Robert Dundas (son of Viscount Melville); Comptroller of the Victualling of the Navy, and of the Transport Service, James Meek, Esq. ; Physician of the Navy, Sir William Burnett, K.C.H. M.D. ; Chief Clerk of the Admiralty, H. F. Amedroz, Esq. ; Hydrographer, Captain Beaufort, R.N. The establishment of the Navy Pay Office now consists only of the Right Hon. C. P. Thompson, Treasurer, of a Chief Clerk in the Treasurer's branch, and of Pay Clerks at Chatham, Portsmouth, and Plymouth. LIST OF THE MIN THE TITHE B: SUBJECT OF T OF A REFORM Bellew, Sir P. Blamire, W. Blackney, W. Browne, J. Brabazon, Lord Bulwer, E. E. L. Callaghan, D. Chapman, M. L. Doyle, Sir J. M. Fitzgibbon, IL H. French, A. Grattan, H. Hort, Sir W. ,RISH TITHES. ORITY OF 3 . 2 WHO VOTID AGAINST ELL,. AND FOR POSTPONING THE [THES FOR THE CONSIDERATION :D PARLIAMENT. Hume, Joseph Jephson, C. D. 0. Killeen, Lord Lambert, J. S. Leader, N. P. M‘Namara, W. N. Mortimer, Hon. H. Mullins, F. O'Connell, M. O'Connor Don O'Ferrall, R. M. Power, R. Ruthven, E. S. IRISH WHO VO' Browne, D. Bernard, Thomas Blaney, C. Chichester, Sir A. Corry, H. L. Cole, Hon. A. Duncannon, Vise. Ferguson, Sir R. g Sheil, R. L. Torrens, Colonel Walker, C. A. Waller, Thomas White, S. Wyse, T. TELLERS. Grattan, James Lambert, H. LOCKED OUT. 'Chichester, Captain TED WITH THE GOVENRNIENT. Hayes, Sir E. Ponsonby, Hon. W. Handcock, Richard Perceval, Colonel I ngestrie, Viscount fownshend, Jon es, T. Young J. Knox, Lefroy, Dr. I'. TELLERS. Lefroy, A. Cramptm, P. C. Ponsonby, Hon. G. Rice, T. S. COUNTRY CORN MARKETS DURING LAST W ERIC. Wheat. Barley. I Oats. Beans. Per Quarter. s. to s. s. to s. s. to s. s. s. Carlisle_ 63 37 23 41 Ilex ham 60 70 36 42 22 ‘27 orpet h 64 68 33 36 20 25 33 36 Penrith 62 34 22 38 37 21 49 Winchester 56 65 32 35 22 24 42 45 Per Bushel. s.d. s.d. 8. d. s.d. s. d. s.d. s.d. Carmarthen—. 63 69 38 40 16 20 00 00 Coventry --. 70 9 0 4 8 54 36 40 56 60 Newcastle (Staff.) 9 6 98, 6 4 6 6 3 4 3 9 5 0 5 6 Northallerton 70 93 36 46 33 40 56 60 98 99 56 60 38 47 62 66 Swansea ......--.... 7 4 80 40 44 23 26 00 00 Warwick 9 0 10 0 4 6 50 22 26 73 76 Per 8011. Barnardcastle 9 18 0 90 10 0 64 70 00 11 0 Durham.,.,. .'149 9 180 90 100 50 73 11 0 120 Richmond l6O 18 0 96 10 0 50 70 86 10 U Stockton 15 0 16 3 9 6 10 0 6 4 7 0 0 0 0 0 33 36 - 38 40 42 45 A. d. Q. d. 00 00 56 60 50 56 56 60 62 66 00 00 73 76 WAKEFIELD CORN MA R KET.—July 13. Wheat, Red, Norfolk and Suffolk —s. 535. to 61s. fine 645. Lin. and Cam. —s. 535. to 61s. fine 645. -- Yorkshire —s. 575. to 625. fine f4s. White —s. 595. to 655. fine 675. Foreign, 1:Ifd . —s. 48s. to 565. fine 62g. White —s. —s. to —s. fine 665. Barley, Norfolk and Suffolk '32s. to 31s. tine 375. - Lincolnshire 3.55. to 38s. fine 40s. Yorkshire Wold 16s. to 395. fine 40s. Foreign —s. to —s. fine —.s. Beans, Small -- Tick 935. to 335. fine 3fis Oats, Potato 22s. to 245. fine 255. Poland —s. 20s. to 235. fine 245. Friezland and Small —s. 17s. to 225. fine 235. Mealing l Id. to 12%d. per Stone. Shelling 2ss. to 255. Od. per Load. Malt 34s 435. fine 465. per Load. Rapeseed..., 23/ N. 251. Os. 271. N. per Last. SCOTCH MARKETS. Wheat. Beans. Oatmeal. 18 22 30 31 15 17 22 24 34 37 15 17 22 25 23 25 28 29 23 26 29 30 18 21 23 30 20 24 23 30 48 17 18 23 25 25 32 45 48 43 44 24 27 26 30 ies throughout the country. Aberdeen ... Berwick* Coldstream Cupar ---- Dundee.—...— Elgin —..... I n;erness-- Kelso Kirkaldy-- Perth itS , The size 50 58 46 49 ,44 50 68 70 70 74 60 62 57 60 47 50 40 45 65 72 of the ro, Barley I Oats. 25 29 22 24 24 26 30 34 34 35 28 30 30 32 24 27 27 39 30 35 asure yr EDINBURGH COW We had a middling supply of Barley ; the sales were heavy. Wheat. Barley. Oats. First 7ss 1)(1 37s (id I 26s Od Second 7os Od —s Od 24s Od Third 6ls Od —s Od 2.2 s Od jsl MARK: 'all kinds of Grain to. 1. ay, except Pease. 354 Od 33s 01 30s Od 'leans. 35.1 Od 338 (Id 33s Od PRICES OF PROVISIONS, B,e. Beef, per lb. N. 4d. to Os.7d. Freshßutter,lb.os.B,l. to Is Od. I Mutton 0 4 0 7 Salt Ditto— 0 8 1 0 Pork Lamb, per qr. cwt....: Quartern Loaf Potatoes. 1711 b. 0 9 06 3 6 37 0 0 10 0 0• EDINBURGH MEA The supply of Oatmeal at tl sold heavily, at last week's pricy Ditto, per cwt. 068 70 0 Eggs, per doc. 0 7 0 0 OatStraw(kpl.)l4 0 15 0 Wheat Ditto-13 0 14 0 Barley Ditto —l2 0 13 0 Hay, per st.—. 1 1 I 2 Per Sack of 2801 b. Imp.. First Oatmeal Second ditto 1 16 0 Barleymeal 1 13 0 Peasemeal . 1 6 0 Pot Barley—No. I, per cwt. 13 ISI A KKET.--July 10. is day's. market was small, and .s. Per Stone of 141 b. Imp. First Oatmeal £o 2 0 Second ditto Barlerneal 0 1 10 Peasemeal s.-2d, 20s.—Peai 1 245. GLASGOW CORN Our Grain market is rather do Wheat, per ‘2401b. s. d. British, old 250t030 01 new 32 0 34 ii Canada, free 2B 0 30 0 Irish Barley, per 3201 b. English 0 0 Scottish 23 0 30 0 Irish MA 11K ET.—.bily 11. al, and prices hardly supported. Oats, per 2t 41b. s. a. s. d. Irish l5 0 to 17 6 British 0 0 Beans, per 2601 b. English ..... 18 0 20 0 Scottish Pease, Scottish Oatmeal, per 1401 b l5 0 16 0 Flour, per 2801 b 4B 0 50 0 CORNWALL. MARKET. Tnuto—Wheat (average) 251. 61—Barley, 138.—Oats, 9s. 6d, Sr. AUSTELL—Wheat, —s. to 25s.—Barley, —s. to 12;.—Oats 0,. to 93. 3d. —L —BarleY s 11 s. to 12s, —Bee f samb, Od. PENZANCE—Wheat, 6 2 -Is. to 9.6s.—Barley, to Os. to Its. 011.—Beef and Mutton, 5(1. :to 61—Pork, 0,1. to 4d.— Butter, 91 per ib. LAUNCESTON—W 11 eat (average) 2ls. 01—Barley,1 s. 3d.-o,sts. 7s. 01—Beef, 51—Mutton, 6(1. LisKEAßD—Wheat, —s. to 9.25. o,l.—Barley, 10s. 6d.—Oats, Os. to 7s. 61 BonmlN—Wheat (average) 9.45. Ckl—Barley, 12s. 0 1—.0ats 83 H E LSTON—Wheat, 25 5. 6 d. — Barley, 14 s. Od. , v 24 e s :d ood !! 53 anSdTMCu°ttLounm,Bsd7Wtoh6dea.t—' MINING 1 NTELLI GENCR. Tons. Cwt. Average Standard,llo6/. Ils.od. quantity ot Copper Ore sold at Redruth last Thurday 3,072 0 Quantity of fine 267 14 Average Produce 8 0 Amount of Sale, 9.0,0 ‘Bl. I7s. Od.—. -- ----- VALUING TITHES. --Oil Tuesday last, as the Rev. Mr. HOWE, the rector of the parish of Glossop, was proceeding with his valuers to estimate the tithes aris ing from the crops throughout the district of Hayfield and Newmills, they were followed, wherever they went, by a annoy ance by shout s an d other acts of intimidation, as ulti xcvohllcteienntdhebyy received previous n scoo much cert and ann a o y r - n- lri n adr a g : ee ly ibnoe t d o nyt c ' o oa m fnp p de el ofrp t ol h el e n' tn to desist from their purpose, rather than incur the responsibility which threatened them in case they persisted in valuing, as had so often before been their annual custom.-...Stockport Advertiser BIRTHS. On the 13th inst. at Devonshire-place House, the lady of Henry Charles Moreton Dyer, Esq., of a daughter. On the 15th inst. in Harley-street, the wife of JohrtForbes, r.sq., M.P. of a son. MARRIED. On the lath inst. at StainCo7lChurch, near Milford Haven, William Charles Allen Phillips, Esq., of St. Bride's Hill, Pem brokeshire, to Florence, youngest daughter of Anthony Junys Stokes, Esq., of St. Botolph's, in that county. On the Uth inst. at Paris, Sir Ferdinand Richard Acton, Bart., of Aldenham, Salop, to Mademoiselle de Dalberg, only daughter of the Duke de Dalberg, Peer of France. DIED. On the 14th inst. after a lingering illness, Matilda, the infant daughter of Joseph Calrow, Esq , of St. Mary-at-Hill. On the 10th inst. at Southampton, Louisa C. Bird, relict of the late Shcarman Bird, Esq. On the 9th inst. at Mitcham, Surrey, John Parrott, Esq., in the 69th year of his age. PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY MURDO YOUNG, AT TUB SUN °FMCS, 112, STRAND, LONDON.