The Sun. — London, England, 1853-05-06 00:00:00

i~iV u~ ~~ ./ :~ -. A THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, ,MAY_ _6 3 1;853. make their returns to local parties, but ought to be allowed. His consti tuents, make them to some central authority. the small farmers of the county of - Co . rk . _, should not say of him—" You have made use of your pn ee vil m e e ge te o x f ratra liament to protect your own purse from m e you have saddled us for 40 years with th se his best exer annuities." He could meet thenaall now consolidate d li a 'a c a l t e e a ( ! conscience—(cheers)—and he shoul d tions to obtain the modifications proposedo the income tax. u by the Irish members relative to the imposition The people of Ireland were s h re wd afingtreinateeflliegpeLte,b and would be able to distinguish be tw een figures of arithmetic. Trying the question by the . te st . of fgures, there could be no doubt that th a a n t n t ni he tie su e b w st ee itu a tio g n ee o d f the income tax for the conso bargain for Ireland.. (Hear.) What he disliked in the income tax was its inquisitorial character ; but he hoped the Government wou ld be able to deprive it of that. If not, the peol against eland would join the people of England in agitatingit. It was in this view that the hon. member for Birminghe.,m, who had always opposed the tax, approved of its extension to Ireland, for he said the Irish were such a troublesome set that they would soon co a m nd pe a l Parli ame nt to repeal the tax altegethn laugh.) For his part , he w as not dispo to(li g i ve a vote to w hi c h would restore th e b ndgeAdministration office. (Hear.) Mr. DUFF thought that the hon. member for Clonmel intended to fight a sham battl e on this oc a mcasianonne.r e st y (Hear.) to When the question was raised before ember voted again it. in command a majority, the hon. member (Hear.) The hon. member for the county of Cork would not give a vote which he thought might have the effect of restoring the late Ministry to power, but he had no scruple irD supporting those who had at one time acquired the epi thet of "base, bloody, and brutal —.(hear, bills (hear, hear)—a n d who neverhad shrunk from the impos i t i on of coercionon Ireland when such answered their purpose. (Hear, hear.) Another reason given for not voting against the income tax the other night was, that he would not go into the same lobby with those who sympathised with the outrages at Stockport, and who had defended the affair of Six-mile bridge ' • but the hon. gentleman had no objection at all to go into the same lobby with the author of the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill and those who supported that measure. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member for Cork had told them repeat edly that there were members on that (the Opposition) side of the house who had no interest in Ireland. Now, cer tainly there were a large number of members on that side of the house who had no interest in Downing-street. (Hear, and a laugh.) Their career had been characterised, never theless, by consistency of conduct and by integrity in that house. (Hear, hear.) He would now pass, however, to the general question whether an income tax should or should not be imposed in Ireland. He was entitled to assume, that up to this time Ireland was considered by the Government as having been properly exempted from in come tax, else why had it not been imposed? Then what were the reasons for imposing it now ? So far as he could gather, the reasons amounted to this—first, that England never had so little need of taxation from Ireland, and that Ireland could never so ill spare it. (A laugh.) That was the first leg of the argument. The other was, that in 1842, when Sir R. Peel proposed the income tax, Ireland was much more prosperous than she was now, and that Eng land was less prosperous then than she was now. (A laugh.) Now, England was richer than she had ever been before, and Ireland presented a spectacle such as, he believed, the world never presented before, her population leaving her in multitudes because they could not find the mean° of acquir ing a livelihood. (Hear, hear.) In considering this pro posal for an income tax on Ireland he thought it was right to look to some of the items of their expenditure that were not sent to Ireland ' • and the first ho would mention was the half-million raised for the purposes of the militia, not one farthing of which would be expended in Ireland. He thought it was a somewhat cool proceeding for Ministers to ask the Irish people to pay an income tax which would go to the maintenance of militia that they would not extend to Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Another item of expenditure to which he would refer was the packet service. Government after Government had declared that Ireland should not have an American packet station, but nevertheless they asked that part of the money for the packet service should be paid by Ireland. (Hear, hear.) It was said that in opposing this income tax they forgot the increased comforts conferred upon the people. There was a reduction in the duty on nuts and anchovies, on brocade and artificial flowers, and things of that sort, and then they were told of the comforts of the poor being increased. (A laugh.) His main, objection to the proposal was, that it would be - most oppressive to the industrious poor of Ire land. (Hear, hear.) The budget was conceived in a spirit directly in favour of England. (No, no.) The declaration of Mr. Pitt, 80 years ago, was as true now as then, when lie said, "The uniform policy of England has been to de prive Ireland of the use of her own resources, and to make her subservient to the interests and the opulence of the English people." Wear, hear.) That was exactly what they .were 'driving at at this moment. Many of the Irish members had voted most unwillingly against the Govern ment on this occasion. For himself, he could say that his vote was not a party vote. Ho was not desirous to see the late Government again in power, but, at the same time, he must. say, that to him, and a very numerous party in Ire land, the going out of any Government was a very inferior question ; and the> mere circumstance of any man's holding office or not would not for a moment prevent him voting against a measure like the present. (Hear, hear.) He bad no doubt that some few Irish members had voted iu favour of that measure from conscientious grounds. (Hear, and Oh, oh !) But, proceeded the hon. member, short as my experience in this house has been, I must say I do not be lieve that in the worst clays of the Walpoles or the Pelhams more scandalous corruption existed than I have seen prac tised under my own eye in corrupting Irish members. (Confusion, and loud cries of " Name, name !") lam in the hands of the house. (Continued cries of "Na De, name !" and " No, no !") I will proceed to another part of the question. (No, uo ! Name, name ! and uproar.) If the chairman tells me, on behalf of the house, that it is their wish I should name, I shall do so. (Laughter, cries of "No, no !" and " Name, name 1") Mr. V. SCULLY rose, amid peat uproar, and was understood to complain of the charge that had been made ; but amid the noise and confusion he could not be heard in the gallery. Mr. J. BALL (Carlow) rose, and with considerable vehe mence said -I move that the words of the hon. member for New Ross be taken down. (Great laughter, and re mewed confusion.) Mr. DUFF Y . again rose, but the calls of " Name, name," were so loud and incessant, that he was unable to proceed. The CHAIRMAN—I believe the motion is, that the words of the lion. member for New Ross be takon down. What are the words ? (Great laughter.) Mr. J. BALL—I believe I was strictly in order in ma king the motion that the words—(interruption)—that the words, which are fresh in the recollection of every member near me, should be taken down. ("No, no," and uproar.) I apprehend that it is the duty,of the clerk of the house to take down the words. (" No, no," and confusion.) Mr. G. H. _MOORE rose, but than the noise, uproar, and calls of "Chair," not a word he uttered reached the gallery. The CHAIRMAN—I apprehend that I can take no course in committee with reference to any language that may have been used by the hon. member. It is for the house to say what shall be done. It will therefore be my duty, if the words are taken down, to report them to the house. (Hear, hear.) Mr. G. MooRE and Mr. J. BALL here rose together, and both seemed to speak, but from the cries a " dair," " Duffy," and the extraordinary noises which prevailed, they were allowed to gesticulate in dumb show. At length Mr. MOORE was heard to state, that during the debate on the Ecclesiastical Titles Bill a similar motion to the pre sent was yroposed, and the Speaker then decided that no such motion could be made. (Cheers and counter-cheers.) Mr. R SCULLY (amid cries of " Oh, oh," and much confusion) said—l must correct that statement. On the occasion referred to the Speaker declared that the motion would have been in order if it had been made at the time the words were used. (Hear, hear.) Mr. J. BALL—If the hon. member for New Ross (Mr. Duffy) declines to repeat the words I will not press my motion for taking them down ; but the words used were these :—" The grossest corruption ever practised since the clays of the Walpoles and the Pelhams has been practised under my own eyes upon Irish members of this house." (Hear, hear.) The hon. member having written down the above words on a slip of paper, handed them to the chairman of the committee (Mr. Bouverie), lay whom they were read from the chair. Sir D. NORREYS—Nothing is more distressing than such occurrences as the present, and I appeal to the hon. member for New Ross to withdraw the expressions. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman is a young member, and pro bably has not the honour of the house and of Irish mem bers so much at heart as I have. (Laughter, and cries of hear.) I pray him at once to withdraw the words ; and I put myself forward to make this appeal, as I am as clear as any one from the imputation those words convey. The CHAIRMAN, having again read the words written down by the hon. member for Carlow (Mr. J. Ball), in quired, before putting the question that they be taken down by the clerk, whether the hon. member for New Ross impeached their accuracy? Mr. DUFFY—The words read ara so near to those I used that Ido not take any exception to them. (Cheers, laughter, and considerable confusion.) Lord J. RUSSELL—I beg to recal the recollection of the house to the circumstances in which the hon. gentle- man used the words complained of, and the manner in which he followed them up. (Hear.) The words as written down appear to me, and I believe to the hon. member him- self, as nearly as possible the same as he used. He was immediately, on this side of the house, met with loud cries of " Name, name." (Hear, hear.) Now, it appears to me that if the hon. gentleman meant to make a vague asser tion which he had not the least means of proving—(hear, hear)—he might be justified in passing on to other matter; but if, on the contrary, he meant to make an assertion affecting the integrity and honour of Irish members, he ought to name the Members charged with this gross cor ruption, which, he says, is unparalleled since the days of the Walpoles and the Pelhams. (Cheers.) Instead of that, however, he took the first and the immediate opportunity of saying, "Now I will pass to another part of the sub ject.' ("Hear," cries of "No," and cheers.) If I am wrong in this statement the hon. gentleman will con tradict me ; but I understood him to say, immediately after there was a cry of " Name " that if the chairman, by the desir e o f th e committee, called , on him to name, ho w - alit (to so But, of course, it was not in the power of the chairmanyaa..ntohdo that, and then the hon. gentleman im mediatel subject. S boei'ras going to pass to another part of the committee inchner, the case, it appears to me that the may consider thosea m , ,o a r nd the Irish members in particular, which the hon, gentlent as .general words used in debate, (cheers)—brought forward f los totally unable to prove— stigma on Irish members whic r l ththe purpose L e t odfesaerffizve—ilrea flowed cheers)—and that ho is t utt e" unable to prove any single word of what he had uttere d e' (Loud cheers.) If, however, the hon. gentleman, on tO other hand, is ready, other to charge Irish with the Speaker in the chair, to with which he members individually with that co has charged them generally, then I sili)out vote in favour of the words being taken o d t hit r o e n u. would g se e n t I b e e clerk. But, as matters now stand, unless the "Tu. by 'li the man goes on to take that step, I consider better fur the Committee to treat those words with the con tempt they deserve. (Loud cheers.) Mr. LUCAS—I apprehend that, when words of this kind are used, if they are ever used — (laughter) —it is quite possible that, if the hon. gentleman chooses to go into the proof of them, he might prove to the general satisfaction of every gentleman a great deal that might be unpleasant to state or repeat. (Cries of " Oh, oh !") But I must a th whatter and his say I understood the w ords of my hon. friend differentl y from what they have been described. ("No " N t o say, o I' ' lu crirs,of -",npar.") I understood him tilteribr nresecr in may have been lies in his own breast)—l (" N ! atutlerstoodliimlo say that the grossest corruption no had " bden practisecl.towards the Irish mem bers. it id laughter). I appeal whether that is not the precise hseseme form of the sentence used by the hon. member, and I con ceive that when the house is asked to adopt a strict pro ceeding of this kind, they must take the exact words used, and not put any gloss upon them. (Hear, hear.) The words, as I understood them, constituted an accusation against the Government —(laughter)—and might or might not imply an imputation on Irish members. (" Oh, oh !") The words were, that the grossest corruption had been practised towards Irish members. (Vehement cries of " Name !" during which the hon. gentleman received from another hon. member a copy of the words placed in the hands of the chairman.) The hon. member then read the form of words which had been handed to the chairman by the hon. member for Carlow—" That the grossest corrup tion ever practised since the days of the Walpoles and the Pelhams has been practised under my own eyes upon Irish members of this house and proceeded :—By whom, then, has this corruption been practised ? Not by the Irish mem bers on the Government ; no one pretends that Irish mem bers have corrupted the Government—(laughter)—or that any bribery had proceeded from any of the hon. gentlemen opposite to the occupiers of the Treasury bench ; but a comparison has been drawn between the right hon. gentle men opposite and the Walpoles and the Pelhams of an earlier generation, and it was asserted that the grossest corruption has been practised by them. ("Name, name!" cries of " Order," and cheers.) If, therefore, those right hon. gentlemen, out of a regard for their own dignity and character, think it necessary to have those words taken down, and require some ulterior proceeding to be taken, that is all very well; but at all events let it be understood that the accusation was made against them. (Hear, and cries of "Oh !") It is only in this sense that any complaint of the kind can bo entertained. (Hear.) If the words are taken down, let them be taken down accurately, and I am sure the house will not strain the imputation a hair's breadth beyond what was conveyed. Dr. PHILLIMORE—I think the words were written down most accurately by the hon. member for Carlow — (hear)—and it corncerns the honour of this house to know what member of the Government has practised gross cor ruption under the eyes of the hon. member for New Ross upon any Irish member, with a view to influence his vote. (Cheers.) Mr. OTWAY—The hon member for Meath (Mr. Lucas) has given a wrong explanation of the words now complain ed of. The house should recollect what preceded the words in question. The hon member for New Ross said that some few Irish members had acted conscientiously, and then several of my hon. friends near me cried out with in. dignation—" Some few, indeed !" The hon. member for New Ross then went on to make the accusation of gross corruption which, he said, had been practised upon Irish members under his own eyes. (Hear.) Mr. E. BALL (Cambridgeshire), amid considerable up roar, expressed his conviction that the hon. member for Meath (Mr. Lucas) had given the correct interpretation of the words used. It was a parallel between the Walpoles and Pelhams of a former period and the present Govern ment, and unless the charge were understood as brought against the Government there would be no application in the words. The CHAIRMAN understood that he was to put the question that the words suggested by the hon. member for Carlow (Mr. J. Ball) as having been used by the hon. mem ber for New Ross—(cries of "They are admitted")—should be taken down by the clerk, and, if that motion were agreed to, the proper course, in the next place, would bo to report them to the house. Before putting- the enestien, he must express his decided opinion that the language was disorderly—(hear)—the general rule being that no expres sions imputing improper motives should be used in debate. (Hear, hear.) He then put the question that the words be taken down by the clerk. Mr. DISRAELI—I understand the chairman to say that he considers the words disorderly because they impute corrupt motives. It appears to me that there is some doubt about the words. (" No, no," and cries of "They are ad mitted.") I do not find any imputation of corrupt motives in them. (Cries of " Oh, oh," and " Order.") I regret that there should be such a tone of levity in the house upon this subject. I say that I find no imputation of corrupt motives, but a distinct imputation of corrupt conduct. (" Oh, oh," and laughter.) Nothing is more clear than this—that an allegation of corrupt conduct, especially if such conduct is- alleged against a Ministry, is not disorderly in the House of Commons. Such an allegation is not dis orderly, for it is the first and paramount duty of a member of this house, if such corruption exists, to denounce it. (Hear.) Therefore we must not declare that a member has been guilty of disorderly conduct because he has accused a Minister of corrupt conduct. (Hear, hear.) By so doing we should be depriving ourselves of one of the highest pri vileges of our position. (Hear.) I think it is evident, from this consideration, how important it is that we should have a clear admission of what were the precise words used. If those words impute corrupt motives to an individual, whether a Minister or not, I believe them to be disorderly; but if a distinct accusation has been made against the Ministry by a member in his place that they have acted corruptly, that member is not guilty of disorderly conduct, but has been acting upon his right—(cheers)—and if he can substantiate his charge, he is exercising the highest duty he can exercise as a member of this house. (Hear, hear.) I beg therefore that the committee will be most careful as to their proceedings in this matter. Lord PALMERSTON—I am ready to admit, as has been stated by the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli), that it is competent for any member of this house to im peach the conduct of her Majesty's Government, if it should appear to him that he has ground to maintain his accusations—(hear, hear)—and, as far as the charge of tho lion. member for New Ross (Mr. Duffy) against her Ma jesty s Government goes, I challenge him to the proof. (Loud cheering from the Ministerial side.) I want no taking down of the words, and reporting them to the Speaker. As far, howevsr, as the charge goes against the Irish members of this house the matter stands upon a different footing. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member has made a charge, which, whatever may be the particular words which he used, implies necessarily an imputation upon the honour and conduct of his Irish colleagues. (Hear, and cheers.) Now, we all know that men are fre quently led away in the course of argument to make asser tions which, in their cooler moments, they would feel that they had no good ground for making. The hon. member for New Ross is a young member in this house—(hear, hear)— and he will excuse me if, having been here longer than himself—(a laugh)—l venture to suggest to him a line of conduct which I think will redound to his credit. I will put it to the hon. member whether he would not cut short the difficulty in which he is likely to involve us by saying that which I am persuaded must be passing in his inmost mind—namely, that be regrets that, in the warmth of debate, he cast reflections upon hon. members which lie has no good grounds for maintaining, and which he would not deliberately put forth. (Hear, and cheers.) Nothing would be more creditable to the hon. member than the ad- mission that he had not intended to use words imputing dishonourable conduct to honourable men—(hear)—and I would humbly venture to suggest to him, that it would consist better with what is due to himself, as well as with what is due to the representatives of this country, if he were fairly, handsomely, and candidly to say, that he did not mean deliberately and seriously to impute any dis• honourable conduct to any members. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Mr. LUCAS rose amid loud shouts for " Duffy," and repeated cries of " Spoke, spoke," which prevented him from proceeding for some moments. When the tumult had subsided, the hon. gentleman said—l believe I am per fectly in order—and I rise merely to protest against its be ing taken for granted, as the noble lord seems to do, that those words which are taken down, and which have a most distinct meaning, have the meaning which be attributes to them. (Cries of " Oh 1" and laughter.) I do maintain that there is no meaning of that kind in thoge words. (Renewed cries of " Oh !") The words that have been taken down contain an imputation against the Ministers, but do not necessarily imply any imputation upon Irish members. (Laughter, cries of "Oh !" and renewed calls for " Duffy.") I say they do not necessarily imply any imputation whatever upon the honour and character of the Irish members. (" Oh !" and laughter.) If I ven tured to offer the hon. member for New Ross any advice, it would be to stand upon his right and on the words which he has used—to take the words as they stand, and leave the house if it pleases to do so, but as I believe it never will, to determine that these words have a sense which I am persuaded no rational man could deduce from them— namrly, that they contain an imputation upon any person except her Majesty's Ministers. (Shouts of "Oh !" and laughter.) Sir G. GREY—If those words, which have been made the subject of complaint, do not bear the meaning which has been affixed to them, it would certainly be most satis factory to the house to hear that such is the case from the hon. member by whom they were used. (Hear, and cheers.) It seems to me that we have engaged in a very fruitless discussion as to the accuracy of the words. The chairman, as I think, with great propriety, before he put the question that the words should be taken down, ap pealed to the hon. member for New Ross to know whether they had been handed to him, and I understood the hon. gentleman (Mr. Duffy) to admit their substantial accuracy. (Cheers.) Then, after the hon. gentleman has made this admission, and when the committee is proceeding to dis cuss whether, the accuracy of the words having been ad mitted, they should be taken down, the hon. member for Meath (Mr. Lucas) attempts to deny the accuracy of the word 4 which have been read. (Laughter and cheers.) Mr: LUCAS—I beg the right hon. gentleman's pardon. I did not deny—(loud and prolonged shouts of " Oh ! oh !")—I did not deny the accuracy of the words. (Re newed cries of "Oh ! and much confusion.) I really think I have some right to appeal to the courtesy of gen tlemert opposite. I am repeating what I have said before. I read the words from this paper, and my whole argument was founded upon those words being accurate. They are— " The grossest corruption since the time of the Walpoles and the Pelhams has been practised under my own eyes upon tile Irish members in this house." I assumed the accuracy of those words, and my argument was based upon their ;accuracy. Sir GREY—I certainly understood the hon. member for Metath to deny the accuracy of the words (hear, hear), and to deny that the hon. member for New Ross had stated that, tt nder his own eyes, the grossest corruption had been practised. It is true that afterwards, admitting the sub stantial accuracy of the words, the hon. member for Meath denied. that a direct construction had been put upon them, but the+ hon. member for New Ross, who was sitting by him, did not attempt to confirm that view. I had hoped that , int answer to the appeal made to him by the noble lord (Lord Palmerston), the hon. member for New Ross would have admitted that a wrong construction had been placed 'upon the words, and would have relieved the com mittee from the painful position in which we are now placed, by at once denying that ho intended to cast, either upon Ow Government or upon Irish members, without be ing abl e to prove it, an imputation equally disgraceful either t o the Government or to Irish members. (Hear, hear.) I hope that if the hon, member for New Ross does not ret tact these words, he will explain the sense in which he meal them, or will proceed to give substantial proofs of the chap ges he has brought both against the Irish members and the Government. (Hear.) Mr. 11. HERBERT—As an Irish member, who has lis tened to this most painful discussion, I venture to remind the corn mittee of the advice which has been given by the noble Id rd who leads this house. That advice was to treat the imp station made by an hon. member who did not dare to comq. forward either to prove his charge or to name the parties against whom that charge was made, with the con tempt'. rhich it deserved. (" Hear," and cheers.) As an Irish nit :tuber, and as one of those who must, therefore, of neeessiti q. be included in the charge made by the hon. mem ber for few Ross, I f o r one am perfectly ready to take the !Lliee 0. f the noble lord—(hear)—more especially as since that ina.le ex : client a d v i ce was g i ven th e H ome S e cretary has I hesit s 4 . , , e to adclot think t' t haPPeal to the member for New Ross, which I been re vm o d u e s a e t wi b ll y n a n u d y e b rs o ta dy m t l ie m se e rv w i h ng en th l e sa n y wo ame u o l f d — h b a u ve t Mr. I JFFY Mr. Boer verse, that under the(L ocuidrccuhmeandinlawughhiether.l) D then he wroorstel'and said—l should have hoped, e stances n stand no w, assailed as I h ave b een her e (derisive cheers, and cries of Oh 1" f rom th called up on t o give an answer ° Ministe r i a l b enc h es )— an d uder circumstances which I presume. a re cons id ere d scriu : I shoal' have been protected I sho u ld h ave h ope d th a t from such offensive lung cage as has just been addressed to me. ( Oh ! cheers, and laughter.) I do not think it creditable that, in an assem bly of English gentlemen—(oh, oh !)—such language should be applied to me under such circumstances. (Oh, and derisive cheers.) There are two points in relation to what I befotss said upon which I wish to give an explana tion. One of them relates to a phrase which has been dwelt upon and somewhat misunderstood. I observed, that short as my experience of this house was—short as my experience of public life was—l have seen certain things done; and the phrase " under my own eyes" meant, during the period I have been a member of this house. (Laughter from the Ministerial side.) I am not going to alter a syllable of what I said, although gentlemen at the back of the, treasury bench may indulge in their laughter. I wish the committee tounderstandthat the phrase "under my own eyes," taken in connection with what immediately preceded it, meant during the period I have been a mem ber of this house. (Hear, and laughter.) Yes ; it meant nothing else. The other point is this. The interpretation put upon my words by my hon. friend the member for Meath has led to some discussion. Now, I was instancing the conduct of Ministers. Walpole was a Minister, and corrupted Parliament, as history tells us. Pelham was a Minister, and corrupted Parliament, as history tells us. I was instancing the corruption effected by Ministers, and I came down to our own times, and the shape I gave my statement was that it was my convic tion that, during the time I have been in Parliament, the present Government did operate upon certain Irish members. (Oh! laughter, cheers, and cries of " Name !") What I wished to convey to the house was, that the same kind of influence which was employed byWalpole and Pel ham seemed to me to have been employed to influence the votes of a certain small number of Irish members. (Cries of " Oh !" " Name," and laughter.) The noble lord, who is called I believe the leader of this house, has thought pro per to say that I wanted to pass away from the subject without offering any explanation. Now that is not the fact I stated to the committee that if the chairman, as their organ, called on me to name I would name. I paused for a considerable time. I heard the clamours of the commit tee on both sides—" Name," and " Don't name "—and I came to the conclusion—and so did my hon. friends near me—that it was the wish of the.committee that I should not name. (Loud cries of " Name 1" from the Ministerial side, and " No, no !" from the Opposition.) I am not, as several hon. gentlemen have said, an old member of this house—l am not very familiar with its forms, and I may perhaps have got into a position of some difficulty; but one position I cannot and will not get into, and that is, the pci tlition of unsaying anything I havesaid. (Hear.) When the chairman had come to the conclusion that I was not in or der, there was a certain course which I considered proper under the circumstances, but I afterwards heard a very in fluential member on this side - the leader of a large party in this house=declare his opinion that that decision was come to somewhat rashly, and that circumstance naturallL altered my views to some extent. If it be the will of the committee that I should give any further explanation of the facts that influenced me in forming and stating the opinion I before expressed, I am ready to do so. (Hear.) If, on the contrary, the committee require me to withdraw this language, to explain it away, and to say that my state ment was not true, I have only one course to take, what ever the consequences may be. (Loral clips of " Name !" " Chair, ohair r) I am again called upon to name ; of course, if a large number of gentlemen in this house wish me to name—(" No, no !" " Chair 1" " Name !") Mr. BRIGHT—I think the committee will consider there is a great difference between the explanation just given by the hon. member and the impression he made upon us by his original statement. The statement, I think, now stands thus :—The hon. gentleman says he is of opi nion that the Government have taken measures, somewhat analogous to those taken by former Governments, for the purpose of influencing votes in this house. I should be sorry to have to defend any Government against charges of this nature—(laughter)— but the hon. gentleman from the other side of the Channel ; and we all know that gentle men from that quarter—though it is in the west—are occa sionally apt to take what may be called an Oriental lati tude in language—that their mode of expressing themselves comes, not unfrequontly, under the head of the figurative. (Laughter.) I am inclined to think the expressions com plained of may be fairly classed within that category. I myself may have at times used expressions which the house has not altogether approved of. (Laughter.) The chairman has determined that the expressions so used by the hon. gentleman were disorderly. I am satisfied the hon. gentle man would not wish to do anything that the committee con sider disorderly—that he would not willingly transgress the rules of the house, or act counter to its customs. The hon. gentleman says he is of opinion that certain practices have been adopted by Ministers towards gentlemen sitting below the gangway. Now, really, were I myself an Irish member of this house' I should hardly think it worth while to have so general an imputation as this taken down. (Laughter.) The hon. gentleman, perhaps, sees in the course taken by some other hon. gentleman something which he does not quite comprehend, but then he has made a partial expla nation of what ho meant to convey, and though I should, certainly, have much preferred that the words complained of had not been uttered, and though, in the broad sense in which they were at first understood, I cannot conceive them to be true, yet, after the statement which the hon. gentle man has made, I think we may as well let the matter drop. After all, the hon. gentleman does not say that any of the Irish members to whom he refers have succumbed to temptation. He only speaks of their having been operated on, and we all know that operations are not necessarily successful. (Laughter.) We have heard, over and over again in this house, general imputations that Government — ono Goverment not less than another—has employed temp tation and used certain means to swell their majorities, but nobody has taken any serious notice of such general state ments. Mr. J. BALL—I, for one, as an individual member, am desirous to vindicate, not only my own personal honour, but the honour, also, of those members with whom I am in daily communication ; and if there is corruption going on in this house I desire it may be manifested, that I may disconnect myself from it, and from those who have been gailty of it. (Hear, hear.) There is no double meaning to the term—" corruption" is a plain word, and easy 'to be understood. (Hear, hear.) I take the clear meaning of the hon. member for New Ross to be, that certain Irish members have been induced by pecuniary considerations. (" No, no !") Are words such as the hon. member's to be used in this house, and the house then to be told that there is no meaning to be attached to them ? (Hear, hear.) That certain Irish members have been induced by pecuniary considerations to take a particular course ? (Hear, hear.) If that allegation stands unretracted, I, for one, will not consent to withdraw the motion. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL—The hon. gentleman behind me is quite right when he says that Governments have, in al 1 time 4, been exposed to the charge of using corrupt means, and other charges of the like kind, and, no doubt, Govern. ments, as well as individual members, should be indisposed lightly to take offence at words escaping in the heat of debate ; but it must be observed that the hon. gentleman who rose to complain of the words in question is an Irish member, and that the charge is, that Irish members have been practised on by corrupt influences. (Hear, hear.) Now, it appears to me that there are three ways in which a member may use such words as those complained of ; there is one case which has been supposed by my noble friend, where, in the heat of debate, words, not well founded, and unjust in themselves, may fall from a speaker, and which, in a few moments afterwards, he may at once retract and regret. This, it appears, is not the case of the hon. member. (Hear, hear.) Another case is the per fectly justifiable one,. where a member states that which he believes to be true, and which he is prepared to make the subject of inquiry, under a specific form of charge. (Hear, hear.) Nov, if I understand that this is the case of the hon. member, I beg that his charges may be distinctly made. (Cheers.) If he means thathe can substantiate any specific charge of corrupt conduct on the part of the Go vernment towards any Irish member, and, as a matter of consequence, on the part of any Irish member who has been so corrupted, then let the charge be made, and let it be strictly inquired into. (Hear.) There is a third way in which such a charge may be made, and that is, where a member having employed words affecting the honour and integrity of another member of this house, has neither the proof to bring forward to substantiate his charge, nor the manliness to retract, and to acknowledge that he has been in error. (Hear, hear.) Unless I hear that the hon. mem is ready, not only to name the gentlemen to whom he re fers, but to bring forward a specific charge, or charges, against those members, and against the Government, which can be made the subject of a substantive inquiry, I must rest, with regard to his conduct, on the last conclusion I have stated. (Cheers.) The CHAIRMAN then put the question, that the words complained of be taken down. Agreed to. The CHAIRMAN then put the question, that the words so taken down be reported to the house. Agreed to. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again. The house having resumed, Mr. BOUVERIE reported the words which had been taken down. The SPEAKER, having read the words from the chair, said - Has the hon. member for New Ross anything to say in explanation of the words I have now read, or any re tractation to offer ? Mr. DUFFY—I would merely explain the object I had in view. I desire to say I am not acquainted with the forms of the house, and I do not know what is aimed at in this proceeding. (Laughter.) If the Speaker will tell me what is the course I am expected to take. (Great laughter.) The SPEAKER—It has been reported to the house that an hon. member has used expressions which have been re ceived as offensive to a great number of members of the house, and the committee has ordered his words to be taken down. It then remained for me to make the hon. member acquainted with the words which had been re ported to me as offensive, and to call on the hon. member to explain or retract them. The hon. member having made that explanation or retractation it will be for him to withdraw, and the house will then consider what fur ther course they will pursue in the matter. Mr. DUFFY—It will be in the recollection of the house that the statement I made was this,—that though I had been but a short time in the house I had, I thought, ob served corruption practised to influence the votes of Irish members of this house, of a character with that corruption which had for similar purposes been practised by Ministers whose names are familiar to the house. I have been called on for an explanation. If the house thinks proper to give me a committee, I will lay before that committee the facts which influenced me to the conclusion I have arrived at. (Hear, hear.) I do not know that it is quite reasonable to expect that I should, in this hurried manner, go into those facts, but I believe that I have substantial grounds for what I stated, and all I can do is to offer before any com mittee you will appoint those facts that influenced my mind. (Hear, hear.) It is not reasonable I should be called on to do this without longer notice. The hon. gentleman having then withdrawn, Lord J. RUSSELL immediately rose. He said, I rise only to say that the words used by the hon. member con tain a general charge against the Government, and against certain Irish members who have not been named. As a member of the Government myself, I do not think it becomes me to advise the house as to the course it ought to pursue ; but I trust that some experienced member, w ell acquainted with the forms and precedents of the house, will advise and make a motion upon the subject. (Hear, hear.) Mr. DISRAELI—I rise, Sir, to express the opinion of those who, I think, wish to give a fair, and, I trust, an unprejudiced view of this question. I do not think it right to appoint a committee to inquire into so vague a statement as that which has been made by the hon. mem ber for New Ross. (Hear, hear.) At the same time that statement is of so substantial a nature that I do not think we can treat it with contempt. I think that he ought to be summoned to the house, and that you, Sir, should ask him to name the individuals upon whom he thinks the Government have practised these corrupt influences. I think it would be unreasonable to expect bin), at a nu) , j ment, unexpectedly to enter into details, but he ought to be called upon to mention the names of those hon. members to whom his remarks apply, and we shall then be in a position to take further steps. (Hear, hear.) Mr. WORTLEY.—I was in hopes, sir, that the hon. member would have taken some come that would have rendered further discussion. unnecessary. I cannot, for the life of me, understand, after the language which he has held, and the explanation which he has attempted to give, how he can reconcile the course which he has taken to his own feelings. (Cheers.) But I think it would be unwise and imprudent if we were hastily, and at a mo ment's notice, considering the present state of feeling of the house, and the feeling which is within the breast of the hon. member himself, to call upon him without reflec tion to substantiate or to retract charges of this grave na ture. (Hear.) If we refrain from this at present it will be open for him at a fitting time, on a right opportunity, and when the hon. member is in a fitting state of mind, either to retract the expressions he has used, and to apolo gise to the house for the course he has taken, or, in a manly, bold, and constitutional manner, himself to move for a committee of inquiry. (Hear, hear.) Ido not know what course I can take under all these circumstances, ex cept I venture humbly to move that this debate be ad journed until to-morrow. (Hear, and cries of "No, no.") Yes ; this will give us time to consult precedents, if there be any, and it will also give an opportunity to the hon. member to reflect upon what has passed, and to take ad vice with reference to it. I am quite sure there is no desireupon the part of the house to hurry that hon. mem ber into a course that may be destructive to him, and I, for one, suggest that this debate be adjourned. (Hear, hear, and cries of "Move !") [After a pause and consulta tion with friends near him, the hon. member said My motion, then, would be, " That the language of the hon. member be taken into consideration at four o'clock to morrow." (Hear, hear.) Mr. MOORE.—If the disposition of the house be to deal justly and generously with the hon. member, whether he substantiates or retracts, it evidently can be only fair that time should be allowed him to weigh and consider the whole matter. _ _ Mr. KIRK as one of the Irish members resting under this ban, I feel that, under the peculiar circumstances and at the peculiar hour at which this debate is going on, it would be very unpleasant and " uncomfortable" (a laugh) that it should be adjourned. The whole of the debate will be printed in the newspapers to-morrow, and by Sunday it will be circulated in the most remote corners of Ireland. We, therefore, shall have to remain under the imputation of corruption for an entire week; and I think the only cor rect course would be to act upon the recommendation of the hon. member for Buckinghamshire. Colonel CAITLFIELD—Sir, whether the words were disorderly or not, or whether they were said in the heat of the debate, at all events they augur a manifest intention to offend. That the expressions were " offensive," I can say for myself. That many hon. members consider them " in sulting," I also know. I would, therefore, beg to oppose the adjournment of the debate, and very cordially to agree with the expression of the hon. member for Buckingham shire, that you should call the hon. member for New Ross to his place, and, if he should then refuse an explanation, that we should act accordingly. Mr.. BRIGHT—The hon. member. for Buteshire appears to me to have suggested a course which the house ought to follow; and, considering the position which he holds, his advice upon a question of this nature is particularly valu able. The hon. member for New Ross is charged to have used words offensive and, as the hon. member who has just sat down says, " insulting" to the house. Acting upon the feelings which prompted the hon. gentleman to the course he has taken, I think it would hardly be fair fur the house to compel him to come in and to arrive at a conclu sion upon this subject. We also should only be guilty of conduct equally unjustifiable and hasty with that of the hon. member, if we were, after 12 o'clock at night, to pro ceed to adjudicate upon what occurred but a few minutes before. (Hear, hear.) Ido not think that we should be doing justice either to the hon. member or to our own cha racter if we did not take the course which has been pointed out by the hon. member for Buteshire. I believe that the hon. member was under a delusion with regard to what he said ; but, that being so, I think we should be taking a course beneath our dignity if we refused to give him time for an explanation. (Hear, hear.) After the hon. member for New Ross has slept upon this matter— anungaht whiche m willa lsatisfactory.eo come edown and I d o hope make a that full theex house debate.will agree to the motion for the adjourmeut of the Mr. V. SCULLY—I would object to any motion which would take any hon. member by surprise. I regret very much that any hon. member should have placed him self in this position, and should have refused to accept the advice which was tendered by the noble lord the member for London. As an Irish member myself—as ono who voted with the Government upon the income tax division upon conviction—(laughter)—l think that on this occasion wo were not taking the lion. member by surprise, and that the sooner this charge is brought to an issue the better. (Hear, hear.) No member has a right to assert anything like a libel upon his brother members without being able to substantiate it, and, notwithstanding the advice of the hon. member for Manchester, I do hope that an independent conclusion will be arrived at. I beg to call to the minds of hon. members what occurred. I had spoken on the question of the consolidated annuities, and I had stated that there were certain gentlemen who took a different view of that question from me, who were not interested in the land of Ireland. The hon. member for Now Ross, in noticing this point of my speech, turned to me and, addressing me personally, stated that, if there were members on his side of the house who had no interest in the consolidated annuities, neither had they any interest in Downing-street. Following that up, the hon. member stated that there were some few Irish members on this (the ministerial) side of the house who had given conscientious votes the other evening, when some of my friends called out " Some few, indeed !" but no explanation was given. Following up the same point still, and look ing at us hero pointedly, he used the expression which has been referred to, and which every one of us understood as an extremely gross insult—(hear, hear) —and I, for one, certainly could not but feel very in dignant at it. We called out " Name ! name !" and the hon. member said over and over again, " I am perfectly L ready to name." I confess I wish the hon. member could , come in and either adopt the construction which the h on . 3 member for Meath has put upon his words, and state that he meant nothing insulting to us, or that he would adopt the alternative suggested by the right hon. gentleman the member for Buckinghamshire--that is to say, that if he will not retract or explain the expressions he has used, he should do what he has said lie was prepared to do—name the gentlemen to whom he alluded ; and then, if any hon. gentleman thinks it necessary, let him move the adjourn ment. (Hear.) Mr. CONOLLY rose amid loud cries of " Oh !" He said—l am happy to say that I was not in the house when some disgraceful scene—as I collect from what has fallen froth hon. members—must have occurred ; but I beg to submit to you, sir, and to the house, that the course indi cated by the right hon. gentleman the Recorder of London is, under all the circumstances, that which seems to me the best. (Cries of " Divide !") In saying this, I am not in fluenced by any feelings on either side. If an offensive ex expression has been used, time should be given to the hon. member who used it to reflect maturely upon the expres sion, and to come in a rational state of mind either to apologise for and retract, or to substantiate it, like a man of honour. (Hear, and laughter.) Lord J. RUSSELL—I stated to the house before, that I did not think it would be becoming in me to point out what course it ought to pursue. Since then two courses have been suggested—one by the right hon. gentleman the member for Buckinghamshire, and the other by the right hon. gentleman the Recorder of the city of London. The right hon. gentleman the member for Buckinghamshire suggests that if the hon. member for New Ross will state certain names a committee should then be, appointed for the purpose of investigating the charges against the per sons so named. Now I confess that I do not think that there is a course which it would be proper for ns to pur sue. (Hear, hear.) It seems to me that it would be a most unbecoming course for us to expose hon. members, without any apparent reason or cause, to imputations which are not specified. (Hear, hear,) In cases of this kind there ought, I think, to be some sort of charges affixed to persons who are supposed to be guilty, and that merely appointing a committee to ioquire into the con duct of members would be a very unjust and unbecoming course for us to adopt. (Hear, hear.) The proposal of the right hon. gentleman the Recorder of London, that the debate should be adjourned till we meet again, will give time to the hon. member for New Ross, and to the mem bers of this house, to consider what course they ought to pursue. I certainly have often found that cases which were exceedingly difficult have, by adjournment, been easily brought to a conclusion, and therefore I am pre pared to support the motion of the right. hon. gentleman the Recorder of London. (Hear, hear.) Mr. J. BALL.—As I have been personally alluded to by some hon. members, I beg to say that I should be the last to wish to put the hon. member for Newßoss in a position where he might be tempted to utter things which it would be difficult to retract. At the same time, with reference to the suggestion of the hon. member for Cork, that the hon. member should either at present or to-morrow adopt the construction which had been put upon his words by the hon. member for Meath , I have to say that that would neither be creditable to himself or the house ; and, there mfoerembinersewxphro essing my concurrence i n th e v i ews o f h on. have suggested an adjourn men t o f th e d e b ate I do so in the hope that the house at its re-assembling will see that the charge which has been made is met in a proper way— be in a mt. way, I(Heamera,n, in which such a ser i ous c h arge should hear.) I beg to say, at the same time, that I did not understand that the hon. member looked at me when he made the charge. It never entered my head that he did ; and, if it had, I do not say that I should have been so forward to move in the matter. But the hon. member having cast—l will not say a slur—but one of the heaviest imputations possible on a large body of lion. members who sat behind me, I cannot think but that it was due to them, as well as to myself, to take the course I did. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Serjeant SHEE—I am not in the position of the hon. member for Donegal (Mr. Conolly), for I have heard the whole of this unpleasant discussion, and I must acknowledge that I am not at all surprised that my hon. friends say col leagues in the Irish representation, should have taken offence at the words which were used by the hon. member for New Ross. i At the same time I confess I did not understand them, nor I think an y reflecting person can understand them, in the offensive sense which has been put upon them in the heat of this evening's debate. (Cries of " Oh !" and " Hear, hear.") Is there a single man in the house who believes that the hon. member for New Rose meant to say that in his presence, and under his own eyes, anything like pecuniary corruption had taken place ? (Cries of " Oh !") My hon. friend the member for Tavistock may have so un derstood it—(hear)—but I am sure that any man at all acquainted with the Irish representation—(laughter)—or with my hon. friends opposite, knows perfectly well, and they know themselves, every one, that nothing of the kind was intended. (Hear, hear.) But that does not conclude the question, I ad m it, because there may be corruption in other ways th an by pecun iary bribes—(hear, hear)—and if any one of us, at our elections, had been proved to hare given an office, or to have used our influence in obtaining one, it would have been corruption in the ordinary souse of the word—(h ear hear)—and I cannot help t hinking that if hon. memb ers will for a moment get rid of that feelin g of irritation naturally excited by such words as my hon. friend used, they may find, and must find, a meaning for what he said which does not impute personal dieleonour to any member of this house—(cries of "Oh, oh !" and laugh ter)—and which does not impute anything to which right hon. gentlemen on the Treasury bench ought or can when the thing is properly understood—(The rest of the sentence was lost in the laughter of the house.) I must ask the house to permit me to call their attention to the position in which the hon. member for New Ross stands, and the feelings that may actuate him, and which will account for the language he has used. (Hear, hear.) He has been but a sherti ime member of this house ; he came into this house one of a party 60 or 70 strong -(hear, hear) pledged, as he believed, by every assurance that could bind mon together in political action—(hear, hear).—to oppose every Government. (Ironical cheers) Do let me submit to the justice and generosity of Englishmen that it is not right to interrupt a man in the middle of a sentence--(loud laugh ter)—and put a meaning on his words whi c h ever y one who hears me know they do not bear. (Hear.) I repeat, that he was one. of a party 60 or 70 strong (No, 50 ! Laughter.) Well, what does it matter whether it was 50 or 60 ? but a party pledged to oppose every Government— (hear, hear)—which did not support those measures which he and a very large majority of his countrymen deemed essential to the interests of his country. (Hear, hear.) I ask the house to remember what I suggested, that corrup tion may be by office as well as by a pecuniary bribe. (Hear, hear.) Let us see whether we cannot find a mean ing for those words which impute no personal dishonour to my honourable friends opposite, in any sense in which we understand dishonour (hear, hear, and laughter) —but which may be so in the sense which my honoura ble friend the member for New Ross has fitly described as a sort of corruption practised in the days of Wal pole and Pelham. (Hear, hear, hear, and loud cries of " Divide !") At the early part of the session, when the right hon. gentleman the member for Buckinghamshire was in office, that party, 50 or 60 strong— (a laugh)—went together as one man intp the lobby and overthrew the Government. (Laughter.) After the right hon. gentle men had done what I shall always think was a statesman. like act—(laughter)—sent, for calm consideration upstairs, a bill upon which the hearts of the people of Ireland were fixed—(hear, hear)—the noble l or d a t th e h ead of the Government, I believe the next day, in the House of Lords, having disavowed th a t con d uc t , an d protested that, whatever the report of the committee might be, he and his Government would oppose that bill, we went into the lobby 50 or 60 strong. The Government was changed, and office was given to some members of that party. (Hear.) I am one of those who think, and I shall never have the least hesitation in avowing it, because I do not share in many of the opinions of my hon. friend the member for New Ross, and do not take so determined a view of Irish politics as he may naturally do—but I am one of those who think that, two hon. gentlemen of that party having taken office—being gentlemen of most unexceptionable character in public and in private life—(hear, hear)—of very considerable ability—who had distinguished them• selves on this side of the 'house in opposition to the noble lord the member for London when in power—it may at least be a matter of doubt whether the Government did not, in offering office to these gentlemen, mean an earnest, a token of rec onc ili a ti on , t o t h e Irish Catholic represen tives in this house ; but that was not the view taken of it in Ireland, or by my hon. friend the member for New Ross—(hear)--and I have not the least doubt, though I have had no communication with him on the subject, that when he talked of corruption being practised under his own eyes since he had had a seat in Parliament, he meant that hon. members of that house had been induced to abandon the course they had taken, and had declar e d their determinati on t o f o ll ow , and that the Government had broken up the party purposely determined to break its /strength in this house, by use of those means which were used in the clays of Walpole and Pelham, by giving office to those honourable members. (Hear, hear.) I have certainly heard the office of Solicitor-General spoken of as an inferior office ; but we do not generally consider it such. (A laugh.) Neither do I think it quite right to talk of a Lord of the Treasury as very inferior ; and I say it with no disrespect to my hon. friend the late member for Carlow, a most respectable gentleman, and a. member of an honourable profession, but it was high pro motion to him to be appointed a Lord of the Treasury. (Hear, hear.) Then, let me ask whether the words used by my hon. friend the member for New Ross were used in the offensive sense some gentlemen seemed to think ? No one supposes that either of those hon. 'gentlemen had re ceived a bribe under the eyes of my hon. friend, and I think we have been somewhat hasty in judging my hon. friend so severely, and that it is possible, after all, when the explanation is given, it will be found that what I have said was not said by my hon. friend, because, having had angry discussions with the hon. and learned member for Athlone, and the late hon. member for Carlow, he would be reluctant to mention their names in that house, and would not impute dishonourable conduct to them, which their friends knew was not the case. (Hear, hear.) You cannot exactly put yourselves in the position and feel in the same manner as those felt who, having the deepest in terest in the happiness o f th e i r country, thought the best way to promote it was to maintain a strong compact party in this house. (Hear, hear.) Those who so felt have been greatly disappointed at the course adopted by some hon. members of that party, as far as we know, - without any pledge or assurance that those measures would be taken which we all deemed essential to the well-being and pros perity of Ireland. Sir G. GREY—I wish to call the attention of the house to the precise question before it. The only question you have had put from the chair is that which was submitted to you by the right hon. and learned Recorder of London —that the consideration of this subject should be adjourned. until this day at 4 o'clock. No other course has been sug gested in the shape of a motion, and I think the house will act wisely in agreeing to that proposition. (Hear, hear.) I think a few hours' reflection will induce the hon. member for New Ross to take that course which—after having uttered words which I cannot help thinking were uttered in the heat of debate, and no t w ith delibration, justly offensive as I think those words were— (hear)—hon. gen tlemen are accustomed to take in this house. (Hear.) He thought it consistent with the character of the house that they should allow the sug,gested interval to elapse before coming to any decision ; but, in recommending that course, he was anxious to s'iate that he should not feel him self justified in doing so if he felt that the slightest impu tation rested on auy one of these members to whom the allusions of the hon member for New Ross had been offen sive. Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD, who rose to speak, but was met with loud cries of " Agreed," was understood to sup port the motion of the right hon. and learned member for Bnteshire (Mr. S. Wortley). Mr. W. 0. STANLEY did not wish to prolong the de bate, but desired to suggest to the house the propriety of making an addition to the motion before them, to the effect that the hon. member for New Ross should be de sired to attend in his place to-morrow (this day) at four o'clock. The motion was then agreed to, with the addition pro posed by the hon. member for Chester (Mr. W. 0. Stanley). The Municipal Corporations Act Amendment Bill and the Exchequer-bills Bill were read a second time. The Sales of Bullion Bill passed through committee. RYE WRIT. On the order of the day being read for resuming the de bate (adjourned from Monday) on the motior, for a new writ for Rye, Mr. BAS'S, after presenting a petition against the issue of the writ, proposed that at so late an hour (past one o'clock), the debate be further adjourned. Mr. WALPOLE thought, that after what had been stated in the former discussion , the evidence ought to be in the hands of members beforr, they decided upon the case. Lord J. RUSSELL agreed in that view. It had been suggested that corrupt practices, in the way of loans to the electors, could not be dealt with by the house without a new act ; he had his doubts whether that was so ; he also had his doubts whether any writ should issue again for the borough of Rye. After a short conversation, the debate was again ad journed. ENTAILS (SCOTLAND) BILL. On the order of the day for going into committee on this bill, Mr. DUNLOP expressed a wish that it should be post poned. The LORD-ADVOCATE states, that there had been a meeting of Scotch members on this bill, and there was only one amendment - to be considered. He pledged him self, on bringing up the rep or t, th a t a f u ll opportun i ty should be afforded for discussing the point. Mr. DUNLOP, with that understanding, had no objec tion to the bill passing through committee. The bill then passed through committee. SLIGO ELECTION. The SPEAKER intimated that he had received a letter stating that it was not intended to proceed with the peti tion against the return. SHERIFF COURTS (SCOTLAND) BILL. The LORD-ADVOCATE moved, that the following gen tlemen be nominated the select e,onlmittee on'this bill : The Lord-Advocate, Mr. Walpol , a, Mr. Hume, Mr. Napier, Mr. Solicitor-General, Mr. Cb.arteris, Mr. Edward Ellice, Mr. Mackenzie, Mr. Cumming Bruce, Mr. Fergus, Mr. Dunlop, Mr. Kinnaird, Mr. Craufurd, Mr. Hastie, and Mr. M'Gregor. After a short discussion the motion was agreed to. Mr. CRAUFURD then moved that the committee have power to send for persons, papers, and records. The LORD-ADVOCATE opposed the motion. Mr. EWART and Mr. DUNLOP supported the motion. Mr. COWAN suggested the debate should be adjourned. . The motion for the adjournment of the debate was agreed to. - On the motion of Mr. RICE the Select Committee on Police was ordered to consist of the following names Mr. Rice, Mr. Sotheron, the Lord-Advocate, Mr. Walpole, Mr. Fitzroy, Mr. Burroughes, Lord Lovatne, Sir John Trol lope, Mr. Rich, Mr. Moody, Mr. Mackie, Mr. Brand, Mr. Charles Howard, Sir James Anderson, and Mr. Philipps. The other orders of the day were then disposed of. The house adjourned at five minutes past 2 o'clock. MINT AT SYDNEY.—The Government have announced that no part either of the staff or machinery for the establishment of a mint at Sydney has yet been sent out. An officer has been appointed to superintend the affair, and he is in communication with Sir John Herschel, but as respects the period at which the requisite arrangements are likely to be completed nothing is stated. It is now two years since the gold discoveries in Australia took place, and it was soon pointed out not only that the establishment of a mint would prove desirable, but that much of the advantage to be derived from such a step would de pend upon the speed with which it might be decided upon. As far back as the beginning of August last, after much time had been wasted by correspondence between the colony and the mother country, a resolution of the Legislative Council at Sydney was transmitted to the Home Government, requcisting that proper officers might be forthwith nominated, and that three presses and an en gine should be shipped, this resolution being followed in November by a remittance of 10,0001., in accordance with the estimate furnished. It might, therefore, have been supposed that by the present date some positive state ment could be obtained of the probabilities of the task being completed ; and, although it is asserted by the Government that na time has been lost, it is difficult to avoid the impression that if the matter had been in the hands of any private mercantile firm, it would have met witli greater dispatch. Meanwhile, the anomaly of an amount equal to many millions sterling of gold being constantly in progress across the ocean in one shape in order that it may be returned in another still continues ; and, although from the recent tendency to an advance in the colonial quotations of the price per ounce, there is reason to be lieve that remittances from this side are not likely hence forth to yield much profit, they will probably yet go on for several months, the establishment of the mint taking place just about the period when the chief opportunities for its use will have reached a termination. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIoway's Ointment and Pills a Certain Cure for Eruptions and all Diseases of the Skin. —Extract of a letter from Mr. J. Hird, draper, Deady, dated Feb. 14, 1852, to Professor Holloway :—" Sir, — My child, when three months old, was afflicted with a severe eruption all over her body. I sought every aid and the advice of surgeons and physicians, by all of whom the case was considered hopeless. I then tried your Ointment and Pills, and without exaggeration the effect was miraculous, for in a short time she was restored to perfect health, and so remains. Mr. Bowden, book seller, Gainsborough, and myself, would be happy to satisfy any inquiries as to the truth of this statement." Sold by all druggists ; and at Professor Holloway's Esta blishment, 244, Strand, London. SPOBTING INTELLIGENCE. CHESTER RACES---TaunsDAY. DEE STAND Cup of 50 sovs. in specie, added to a sweep stakes of 5 sovs. each ; second to save his stake. Seven furlongs. (8 subs.) Mr Thompson's British Farmer, 3 yrs, 6st 10Ib o 1 Mr. Choyco's M a yd ay , 6 yrs, Bst ( (Wells) s) 2 Mr. Merry's Sally, 4 yrs, 7st 411) (Crouch) 3 The following also ran :—Grief, Allegro, Timid Fawn, Georgy, Effie Deans. —• Betting-5 to 4 agst Effie Deans, 3to 1 agst Timid Fawn, 4 to 1 agst British Farmer, 5 to 1 agst Allegro. British Farmer made most of the running, and won easily by half a length. Good third. Timid Fawn was fourth ; the others beaten off. Third year of the FIRST TRIENNIAL PRODEICE STAKES of 10 sovs. each, h ft, with 50 added, for 4 yr olds ; colts, Bst 91b ; fillies, Bst 51b ; those by untried stal lions, or out of mares which never bred a winner, al lowed 31b ; both, 61b. One mile and three-quarters. (10 subs.) Mr. Osborne's Merry Bird, by Birdcatcher, Bst 21b (J. Osborne) 1 Mr. Bateman's Dismay, Bst 91b (Eels) 2 Betting -6 to 4on Merry Bird. The favourite waited to the distance, where she went up, and a pretty race. It was won cleverly by a neck. MARQUIS OF WESTMINSTER'S PLATE of 100 sovs in spe cie, added to a handicap sweepstakes of 10 sous. each. Winners extra. Grosvenor Course. (39 subs.) Lord Clifden's Pelion, 3 yrs, Est 41b (Wells) 1 Mr. E. Parr's Sanita, 4 yrs, Est 121 b (Hiett) 2 The following also ran :---The Indian Warrior, Evadne, c by Melbourne, Sally Warfoot, Att ac k, Th e D e fo rme d, The Varmint, urprise, Madeline, Rosalba, Snarry. Betting-5 to 4 agst Pelion, sto 1 agst Surprise, 6to 1 agst Varmint, Bt o 1 ags t S an i ta, 1 0 to 1 each agst Rosalba, Madeline, and Snarry. Won cleverly by half a-length. The winner's name was not on the card. The Deformed was third, with Evadne, Snarry, and Rosalba close up. DEE STAKES of 10 sovs each, with 200 added, for 3-yr olds : colts, Bst 71b ; fillies, Bst 21b. The second to receive 50 sovs out of the stakes. Grosvenor Course. (46 subs.) Mr. J. M. Stanley's Orinoco by Orlando, Bst 71b (J. Marson) 1 Lord Caledon's Brother to Shylock,gst 71b(W.Sharpe) 2 Lord Chesterfield's Strawberry Hill, Bst 21b (Ashman) 8 Lord Eglinton's Erycthon, Bst 61b (Marlow) 4 The following also ran :—Mocassin, Helena, and Sylphine. Betting-7 to 4on Orinoco, 4to 1 agst Sylphine, 5 to 1 agst Brother to Shylock. Orinoco lay about third until they made the turn into the straight, when he went to work in earnest, and in the next moment ob tained the lead, which he maintained to the end, win ning very easily by three quarters of a length. Each of the others were fully a length apart ; Helena being fifth, Mocassin sixth, and Sylphine last. CHESHIRE WELTER CUP of 100 sovs, the rest in specie, by subscription of 10 sov each, 10 ft, with 30 added ; extra weight for winners ; gentlemen riders ; profes sionals 51b. extra. Grosvenor Course. (24 subs, Bof whom declared, and pay 5 sovs. each.) Mr. Harrison's Sphynx, 4 yrs, 9st 71b (including 51b extra) (G. Harrison) 1 Capt. Lane's gis, aged, list 711) (Owner) 2 Mr. Davies's Titte rs t one , 5 yrs (h b), lOst 81b (Owner) 3 The following also ran Montague, The Heriot, Caurire, Remunerator, Th e C arr i er , rind Cheroot. Betting-2 to 1 and 7to 4 agst Sphynx ' 4to 1 agst Caurire, 5 to 1 agst Titt ers t one , 100 t o 15 agst The Carrier. The favourite won cleverly by half a length. Some distance between the second and third. SCURRY HANDICAP of 5 sovs. each, 3 ft, with 30 actded, for all ages. Three-quarters of a mile. (16 subs.) Mr. D. Lane's Auchinleck, 3 yrs, sst 101 b ...(Wells) 1 Mr. Davies's Gaylad, aged, 7st 101 b (W. Sharpe) 2 Mr. Gulliver's Chilton, 3 yrs, 7st 21b (Crouch) 3 The following also ran :—Humphrey, Jupiter, Game Tommy, King David, Fairplay, The Gift, Bloomer. Betting—Even on Auchinleck, 3 to 1 agst any other. Won by three-quarters of a length ; good third. SELLING STAKES Of 5 sovs. each, with 30 added, for three-year-old and upwards ; mares and geldings al lowed 31b ; penalties for winners ; the winner to be sold for 2001., allowances if to be sold for less. Once round and a distance. Four subs. Mr. Meiklam's Cleveand, 4 yrs (301.) 1 Mr. B. Land's Heliotrope, 4 yrs (501.) 2 Mr. Pearce's True Girl, 5 yrs (501.) 3 Mr. Worthington's Jaquenetta, 3 yi-.1 4 Won cleverly. In the course of the morning the following Derby bets were laid : 600 to 100 agst Orestes and Spread Eagle (coupled). 2,400 to 200 agst Umbriel (taken.) 500 to 100 three times agst Umbriel and Honey wood (coupled.) Hot weather, ample sport, and good attendance. Mr. Hibburd, of Ascot, was this day appointed the starter, an appointment which gave general satisfaction. ASCOT STAKES.--Knight of the Shire, Tavistock, Ba bette, Jack the Giant Killer, and colt by Cotherstone out of Lucy Banks, having been entered without the knowledge of their owners, will be struck out at the time prescribed, unless specially ordered to remain in. EXTRAORDINARY CAPTURE OF A FORGER AT THE BANK OF ENGLAND. A most remarkable instance of " speedy justice," in connection with a case of extensive forgery perpetrated in the City yesterday, came before the Lord Mayor, just as he was about retiring from the bench. A stylish dressed man, about 35 years-of age, who refused to give any account of himself, was charged by Haydon, the city detective, with obtaining 8501. on a forged cheque on the banking establishment of Messrs. Barnett, Hoares, and Co., of 62, Lombard-street, purporting to be signed by Messrs. Whitbread and Co., the brewers, in Chis well-street. The facts were these :—At twenty mi nutes after twelve o'clock yesterday morning, a man presented the cheque in question, at the counter of Messrs. Barnetts, the bankers, Messrs. Whitbread, having an account there, and the signature to the cheque resembling that of one of the firm, the clerk immediately paid over to him the amount, viz., eight 1001. Bank of Eng land notes and 501. in gold. The party had scarcely got clear of the premises when the - clerk discovered that the signature to the cheque was a forgery. The matter was given up as "a loss to the bank," but the notes were immediately stopped at the Bank of England. Haydon, city detective,= was stationed at the counter, where the notes were exchanged, and, singular to relate, the person who had cashed the check at Hoare's, came up a few minutes afterwards and asked for gold for notes he had received from Hoare's. The money was handed to him and he went away, but Haydon soon apprehended him. The Lord Mayor—l will remand you till Saturday. In the meanwhile, the officers are to ascertain something of the prisoner's connections. The detection and cap ture created much interest throughout all the banking houses in the city. SHIPPING INT ELLIGENCE. CUSTOM-HOUSE, MAY 5. ENTERED INWARDS.—The Venus, from Gothenburg ; Varanda, Krageroe ; Adonis, Bordeaux ; Earl Stadbroke, Rotterdam ; Diana, Amsterdam ; Pet, Gibraltar; Jenny and Maria, Odense ; Admiral, Port Philip ; Haabet, Prestoe ; Enigheden, Brevig ; Juno, I Gothenburg ; Fre derikke Maria, Skive ; Anna, Horsens ; Louise, Ham burgh; Tjerting, Randers ; Nautilus, Gothenburg ; Gre tina, Emden ; Oscar, Laurvig ; Vier Gebruder, Leer ; An thon, -Aarhuus ; Economy, Antwerp ; Frederick Wilhelm, Hamburgh ; Hinda, Dantzic; Julie, Stettin; Robert, Stral sund ; Wittgenstein, Stralsund ; Johanne Minde, Sannes und ; Curlew, Hamburg ; Gustav, Wolgast ; Betsy and Laura, Aarhuus ; Dolphin, Rostock ; Charlotte Grafen von Essen, Stralsund ; Wilhelmine, Lokken ; Davicl i parneg,ie, Gothenburg ; Five Gebrueders, Thisted ; Euphanie, Ros tock ; Henrick, Clemenssen ; Juno, Altendorf ; Guldborg, Saxkjobing; Wilhelmine, Gothenburg ; Ann Campbell, Nest ved ; Emanuel, Skive; Sara, Aarhaus; Achia, Flensburg ;Rich ard, Stralsund; John and Rebecca, Goree ; Hinds, Dantzic; Dido, Altendorff ; Frederick Sunove, Lokken ; Albatross, Sannesund ; Hebe, Gothenburg ; F. J. Wilkolhausen, New York ; Enigheit, Grossenziol ; Sophie and Marie, Vei le ; Anna Elizabeth, Kiel ; Adolph, Hamburg ; Anne, Neil son ; Caroline, Stralsund ; Johann Henrich, Rostock. ENTERED OUTWARDS FOR LOADING.—The Neptune, for Cherbourg ; Camperclown, Calcutta ; Ida, Antwerp ; John Henry, Mauritius ; Zephyr, Bermuda ; Collingwood, Calcutta ; Helene, Altona ; Eleanor, Elsinore ; Adonis, Amsterdam. CLEARED OUTWARDS WITH CARGO.—The Prosperous, for Madeira ; Gipsy, Adelaide ; Regalia, Demerara ; Joven Casilda, Corunna ; Visitor, Marseilles. LIVERPOOL, MAY 5. A schooner, with loss of both t o p mas t s, was telegraphed off Great Ormshead, inward bound, at 3 p.m. The William Connal, from Liverpool for Hong Kong, was spoken March 5 lat. 5 N., long. 21 W. The Margaret, from Dartmouth, for Quebec, was spoken April 25, lat. 48 N., long. 24 W. The Arabella Tarbet, from Newfoundland, for Pernam buco, was spoken April 7, lat. 38 N., long. 40 W. VESSELS SPOKEN WITH. The William Gray, from Southampton, with emigrants, April 25, lat. 42 N., long. 12 W. The Governor, from Liverpool to Panama, Feb. 28, lat. 17 S., long. 33 W. The Vincenz Priessnitz, from Liverpool to New York, March 20, lat. 45 N. long. 23 W. The Nile, f rom the Cape of Good Hope to London, March 1, lat. 17 S., long. 4 W. The Lowestoffe (s.), for Australia, lat. 48 N., long. 12 W. The Matilda, bound north, Jan. 23, in Banca Straits. The Clarendon, from Amoy to Trinidad, Feb. 3, lat. 12 S. long. 96 E. S., Avon, for Calcutta, Feb. 7, lat. 15 S., long. 90 E. The Ratcliffe, from Calcutta to London, Feb. 28, lat. 25 S., long. 37 E. The Marathon, from Bombay to Liverpool, March 5, lat. 36 S., long. 22 E. The Bengal, from Coquette Island to Liverpool, March 5. The Nicolas Czar, from Canton, March 9, lat. 32 S., lono• 14 E. _ . The La Fayette, from Calcutta to Havre, March 15, lat. 20 S., long. 2 W. The Janet Wills, from Cochin to London, lat. 19 S., long. 3 W., had received much damage in a hurricane, 19th Feb. The President Verkoutern, from Plymouth to Melbourne, March 7, lat. 4 N., long. 21 W. The St. Vincent, from Gibraltarto Hobart Town, March 10, lat. 5, long. 21 W. The Duncan Hoyle, Greenock to Port Philip, March 10. The Amy, from the Cape of Good Hope to Mauritius, Feb. 25, lat. 34, long. 30. COUNTRY MARKETS. DERBY SMITHFIELD—MAY 3. The number of fat beasts to-day was less than for Of time past. The bullocks and heifers from the north 01 England and Lincolnshire were also scarce. Sheep cer u , lambs were more plentif u l, an d a littl e l o wer in P ri fo Fat and store calves an average. F ew f a t pigs offered. sale :—Beef; 6d to 62d ; mutto n , 63d t o 8d ; veal, 4i€1,131 56d per lb. ; pigs, 9s to 9s 6d per score ,• rough fat, 4s per 141 b. ; hides, 20 to 3d per lb; calf-skins, 3 ia per lb. EDINBURGH GRAIN- MAY 4. v e t. We had a moderate supply of grain in to-day's Ina! .„ Sales dull, and p r i ces d own . Wh ea t on the top ed ' l° l and the average is 6d. Barley on the top 2s 6d down& the average 4d. Oats on the top 4d up, and the sve s ,.; 5d down. Beans on the top is down, and the av 2d up. Top of Wheat - -65 A lb 52s 64 Barley 5 5 ,1 lb 350 6 4 - - Oats -- Beans Total Supply and Sales. Wheat 629 qrs so ld 601 g 675 327 qrs qrs ill so ld 326 (Pt Barley Oatssold 55 1 '1 11 Beans l9l qrs sold 175 V AVERAGES PER IMPERIAL QUARTER. Average of wheat 42 7 5 3-12ths Ditto of Barley Ditto of Oats -12t" • Ditto of Beans BOSTON—MAY 4. Ws had a fair average quantity of grain on offer to , 3 e, Wheat met a d.ull sale, at a decline of, in some installed from is to 2s per qr. Oats in slow demand, at barelYs;., week's currency. Beans in request, and Gd to is ‘irh P er fffi ci t, dearer. Barley and peas as previously noted. " red, 37s to 455, white, 45s to 475, extra, 49s • barley , to 31s ; oats, 15s to 20s ; beans, • peas, to 38s 2111 35s per qr. NEWARK—MAY 4. At our Corn-exchange to-day we had a thin attetulfise.. of buyers, and a plentiful supply of grain, which,e i r e :t, enced a heavy sale at late rates. Prices as follow to white, 52s to 565, red 46s to 48s ; barley, grinding , ' AN — to 30s, malting 32s to 35s ; oats, seed 24s to 265, feed vs'io g ; 00s ; beans 38s to 42s ; peas 34s to 36s ; malt 56s to tares, 40s to 44s per qr. DUBLIN—MAY 3. 053; White wheat, 26s Od to 30s Od ; red ditto, 250 Od to 'oil barley, 13s Od to 16s 6d ; o a t s , 10 s Oct to lls 9d; ra,P e a lors 21s Od to 23s per brl ; o a t mea l, lls Oct t o 12 s Od ; u„. 1 93 flour, 14s Od to 18s Od per cwt ; Indian corn, 30s Oct to "" per 480 lbs. CORK—May 4. Brls. C u rrenc9l o o.; 13 White wheat 24s Od to 00s Od O s Od-2 00 Redwheat 008 Od to 00s 01 ) Ditto 00s Od to Oos Od 00s Od- 2 " °. Ditto 00s Od to Oos Od 23 Barley lls 8d to 13s Od 1 a do. Ditto 00s Od to 00s Od} 00s Od—A- - Ditto 00s Od to 00s Od Bere 00s Od to 00s Od Os Oi 232 Oats lOs ld to lls 6d} 6° Ditto OOs Od to OOs Od lls Od Ditto OOs Od to OOs Od Pigs OOs Od to 00s Od OOs Od per cift" Quantity sold at the highest pri c es 00 barrels white wheat ; 00 red ; 2 barley ; 0 be t ' oats ; 0 pigs. Quantity of grain and number of pigs sold last we elc r56 3 ' Wheat, 53. Barley, 576. Bere, 00. Oats, Pigs, 00. _ _ _ Return of cattle sold for week ending April 30 : Pigs, 394. Sheep, 645. Cows, 95. PRICES OF BUTTER. CURRENCY. 97 9 First quality lo6s First quality ............... Second quality lo2s Second quality , ....... 991 Third quality 9Bs Third quality ............... Fourth quality Fifth quality 7Ba Fifth quality ............... 59 Sixth quality 64s Sixth quality ...... ........ 0 j; CORE. —Flour- First, 15s Od to 16s Od ; extra, 17 , 1 ,'ir0f seconds, 14s Od to 14s 6d ; hous e h o ld s , 10 s t o 13 s Od ; 3i ; 7s Od to lOs per cwt. Meal—lndian meal, 7s 6d to Ds 0 0 , oatmeal, lOs 6d tolls ; wheatmeal, 95 6,1 to lOs 6d P er s 1.0 Indian corn, 71 5s Od t o 71 17 s 6d per t on. B ran , 41 io rget to 41 15s Od per ton. H a y—F armers, 38 s O d to 42s Od; iltrgve at' 365; dealers, 36s Od t o 60 5 0 d ; average, O s per ton. ~;030 Farmers, 22s Od to 24s Od ; average, 00 5 ; d ea l ers , 00s 7cl OOs Od ; average, Os. per ton. Bread—Wheaten lost; 9d tc Od ; household ditto, 6d to Od per 41b.—Fresh butter , be e( lld per lb. Eggs, 4s Od to 4s 23 per hundred. lifea, t , 1 ' 43,(1. to 8d ; mutton, 54d to 7d ; ve a l, 5d t o 8d ; Portt:olo' 6d ; bacon, 7d to 8d ; sausages, 6d per lb.—Fish, NO W - 00; land, 111. Os to 121 Os per ton ; Scotch herrings, Oos t()oc6 Red, do., 30s per brj.—Potatoes, white, 10d t o 12d; 12d to 15d.—Coals, Newport, 21s ; Lydney, 21s ; Cul lo4 Od per ton.—Whiskey, 25 0.p., 6s 10d p er i m perial CO' Hides, market, 30s to 365; Salted, 30s to 38s per olv b i n o, skins, 3id per lb.—Bangor slates 21. 17s. 6d to 31. p er °1 pa r Fleece wool, Oos to OOs per stone.—H em p, M. to 4 ; jai ton—Timber, Memel, 31. 15s ; red pine, 31. 15s ; Ye% , 3/. ss. per ton ; deals, 191. to 20/. per hundred.-1W joy" 8/. to 10/. 10s. per ton.—Tallow, 48s to 49s Od per ews. -- 0 000 71. lOs to 01. per cwt.- Tar, Archangel, 19s. per Peruvian, 121. Os to 001. per ton. CANT. RAILWAY SHARE MARKETS. LIVERPOOL, MAY 5. all STOCK EXCHANGE.—The m ar k e t was d u ll and 11ea rl _„ foi day, and closed a s h a d e eas i er. Q uotat i ons we re. z ai'e lows :—Aberdeen, 14k, Caledonian, 34 3 1; Cha t ' e ool v Holyhead, 244 ; Dundalk and Enniskillen, ' 16LV„,teill shire and Yorkshire, 80-A • London and N or th-11; ai'" 119 A ; Midland, 76 ; North British, 9,A ; ShrewslAUA; Chester, 18/ ; South Eastern and Dover, 224 burn, 6 per cent., 264 ; East Anglian (3al. shares, 6", per cent.), 3A • ast Lancashire (Fifth Share s , 2d e" ~$), 11. 5g ; Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshi re ( 1 01. sils- LEEDS, May 5. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The shar e ma rket has been 1e5 5 , 1 4 °" tive this morning, though the quotations of yeateTopt maintained. The tran sac ti ons on 'Ch ang e were limit South-Easterns, whi c h were d one a t 22k, an d North' " ems at sg. BIRMINGHAM, MAY 5. _ eg o to' STOCK EXCHANGE.-- This mar k e t was more vl flir t day, and prices a shade hi g h er . Sh rews b ur y al l . mingham stock was done at 66 ; Norfolk Extello ° 22a ; and South Staffords at dis. MANCHESTER, MAT 5. t eo STOCK EXCHANGE.—There has been a limited 1) 4); at rather lower rates. Caledonians 34 Le eti theO f Leeds Northern, N o . 1, preen.; Midlands, 76 ; 1 34 and Birkenhead, 221. s h ares , 3i 'd.; Great Nortin it , 16a ; Dovers, 22/ ; West Ridings, 2/ d.; Oldham 1i (I.; London Fifths, 2 11.1 6 p. SEABORNE MAILS. (N signifies that the mails are sent from the General ' by the night—and M by the morning —dispatch.] -• fD IV II /0 Day when made up From what J ue COUNTRIES. i Office, Lo Post- port ra isli n* Dispatched. America(byßrit.pack)N Every Friday .. Liverpool ••• America (by,United Sts. 1 packet) ..........N May 17' Liverpool ••• America (by U. States 4 packet) ..........N May 11 ........ SouthamPw—i 11 Australia (via South ampton) 11 ar ...M •• • Southampton y Ditto (via Marseilles) N Bth of May ...... Dover •• •• •• Ditto (via Cape of Good sr cli Hope) ............N Plymonth • No y . 6 Africa (West Coast) ..N 23rd of the month. Plymouth •• is fay Alexandria 8,9, & 24, & 30 of m Dover ...• • we" 1 Alexandria..........M 4th 20th of mon. Southampton Bahamas ..... AI 2nd of the month SouthamPto h pail9, 6 Belgium ............N Dover •• •• • 'Mai ;6 Brazil ..............Id 9th o f th e month.. SouthalnP l t 13,09 Buenos Ayres 9th of the month.. SouthaMPto'"lmrl' 30 Cape of Good Hope ..N 14th of the month Plymouth •• 2 40 0 1 6 Cape of Good Hope ..N 14th of the month Plymouth • April Cape de Verde ....N 14th of th e month. Plymouth •• 96 Ceylon (see India) .10 41 Cey10n....... • • .....N 14th of the month Plymouth • • Channel Isles ........N Mon.,Wed ,&Frid. Southampt on, ' Chili... China (see India) • .1101 $ 1 ~ 10 Constantinople ......N 7 ,8,17,24,&270fm Dover .. ••_•„'/gal e dkr Constantinople ....... 4th & 20th of mon. SouthaniPw" vide Cont. of Europe Id & N Twice daily Dover •••• •" e isiv , I Egypt (see India) Vif ic t6 France ........ M & N Twice dai1y...... Dover .• •• Gibraltar 6 I Greece (see India) 301 1 s /, $ Greytown —3l 2nd & 17th of mon. Sontball l l 3lo , Toes . i Hamburgh Tuesday & Friday London ••: •' jr,0 0 411( Havannah .......... Al 2nd of the month Southampt on i5100:16 Holland Wednesday & Sat. London • •: 2 1 Honduras ........M 17th of the month. SouthanlP , t , 3fal 1 7 India (vlaSouthampt .) M 4th & 20th o f mon. S ou thampton Oaf , Mile (via Marseilles)M Bth& 24th of month Dover •• •• '• eJ lonian Isles (see India) TW IG 6 Ireland ........M & N Twice daily Holyhead • 3151 16 Lisbon 7,9, 17, & 28 of m. Southamilt may a Madeira ............M 9th of the m on th Southampt on . 3151 ' Madeira N 23rd of the month Plymouth • 1/ Malta (see India) /0 1 ' Malta ..............N 7,17,19,28, 30 of m. Dover ..... I 26 Mauritius (see India) AP P. I outh " Jull° Mauritius ..........N 14th of the month P 1 3131 „t o n , Mexico ...... ......M 2nd of the month. Southall' , Ow 16, Naples ..... ........N sthlsth2sthofmon. Dover •• •i o ','3,lll . er tsl o New Granada ......M 2d & 17th of month SouthaMP 11 New Zealand.-- By private ship .. Various Pa" . ,Ida?", 1 6 Papal States ........N sthlsth2sthofmon. Dover •• • ' lo . r l 311) ; 16 Peninsula .......... 'thl7th2Bthofmon SoutharrlP,_ Peru . 3d & 27th of mon Sontbamplu."l„kpr_l&l2 Port Natal . ..........N 14th of the month Sicily ..............N sthlsth2sthofmon, Dover •• •• ' g 9.!, 1 6 Tuscany stlllsth2sthollnon. Dover ••1;,;; jif Venezuela 2d & 17th of month SoatharaP`" Van Diemen's Land (see a‘ 1 6 Australia) . bam ptohr West Indies 2d& 17th of month Soutpe _ Plymouta •. 12 11l 17 : • When any of these dates fall on a Sunday, iIS (trio dispatchel on the following day, with the exception of Southampton), and the Malta, both of which will bo dislm day preceding. the t tuf e l „di, BIRTHS. OF A SON. Ito• 5.11‘ On the 2d inst. ' at Ramsgate, the wife.of the Field, incumbent of Trinity Church. Ol OF A DAUGHTER. ,h TA' awf On the Ist inst., at Fort George N. 1 3 1:ty - P' Walter H. G. Johnstone, Esq., Ordnance ifyr keeper. MARRIED. 1 01 1:: t On the 3d inst., at St. Paul's Church, Dob , -- - ,: e , W, Smith, Esq., King's Dragoon Guards, to Ftnotre e " eldest daugter of G. Humphreys, Esq. , nascr-- h P ii° DIED. A; btirg — ' On the 3d inst., at 4, Rutland-street, B--,n on eerl: 00 Scott, Esq., M.D., F.R.C.P , Physician to the il, 000 , , of On the 2d inst., at Clifton.- Captain Georc yO O O of the 43d Regiment Light 'lnfantry, an d II the Bristol district. Ovilff LONDON : Printed and Published by ginty,Z. gold,'"81 of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sum • vriZatiss" Strand, in ti-3 Piecinct o f the Savoy , Middiolo; Friday, May 6, 1863. f.~y,.:-lYi~ ~.,:.~,