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oindition of this coor,try„ might be changed " 11 " 1 1Y fti m what it i, at i.rrsenA, slt ce, , e Il i Slit r4turaily lit' , olr.fOr aaointi nuane , . o f , thi, co .. f •si for a cons i derable time at lea,t, and it TA, Jilt_,' o7astl*- to say what --- thscoine-niasosiii g to --44. 4 1- • 41 .. 4 1- .nd triw eAetitial it triiiit be that tile Couvraioling °ffirt'r slcouid•h; IV e • isoaript tUeatiq ofremoviog - th-.se : in w'tniiii!t. cfiuld have oo cot ii.rvice in' the, ; tie.,'.:' Besides, .without . this ;rawer of dismissal the, Coot. mant'ong Officer would riot' he on • an ego ii coo-it -ng ,, , with Aci V. l unceer i n t h e ranks in point of power in this ,'articular. At present,. every .Volonteer in the tanks c• old leave his Conimaioling Officer ..wlien he ple,;,ed v. , itlont. aSsigning a re as , a t o r i t, an d i t w a s fur tail. that th e Commander should haver p )wct to the same extent to dismiss a man, as such mss. had, to dismiss himaelf--,as it was lawful for a man to diosliarge himself, so it should be lawful• for the . C • -antii,g 011iccr to discharge him. - Th - 1;1-1,1ACELLOR of th e EXCHEQU ad, - .r - i intirely t h e sentiment s ut dle AT ER . GENLRAL upon this occasion ; and he thought, if this power propo se d b y the CLuse should be with. held from the Commanding Officer, and he was to aa under compulsion, it !nigh t create disunion in the Volunteer Service, a thing to be avoided as touch as possible, and at all even ts . . .. The ATTORNEY•GENERAL repeated his objee tions to the amendment, and enforced his former ar guments in favou r of the Original Chose. . Mr. FUX said, that the Commander of a Vo. hinter!. Corps was not bound by the present Bill, fu r any thing it eoti+.tird.- at present, to state , the grounds on which he should dismiss any one from !he Corps : and that was what was, generally speak 'rigs-odious to an E,gl;shman, for th at h e might be discharged without kri:.win g hi:. crime. - But it %Vas, said, it %vas orobabt e the Commanding Officer of a Corps would assign reasons why he discharged any, man; the meaning of that observation, as tar. as it had a meaning, was, that he ought to state his rea sons for so discharging a man. Now, if he ought to stare it; w h y not compel him to state it ?---NAfbar should a man do any thing which was right without assigning his reason for so doing it ? As to the nega t i ve o f t hi s Clause and the objelon of the Learned ..Gentleman to that negative because no pre cise form' of words was ready to fill the - blank which the negativeowiOdd occasion, he must observe, it was the constant course of that House -to came to a •aegative of that which it disapproved, without agreeing beforehand- what should supply i, deed it c ou ld. not be o t h erwise, . for until.t the an thing objected to was removeßesial d,: th ere W as no room for it : es ir.did not necessarily. tallow that any thing Iva . ii.l fo be substituted for- a Clause which the Com mittee might rejeti, for it might pass on to the next without intoner notice ,of theiprovision tt De_ g ! ived ; but if the dodrine of-ihe-i-tmourable.and Learned Gentleman was to be followed then while there remained any variety of opinio n in the Com mittee as to the measure which ought to be adopted in lieu of a measure which th e c • di sap: proved, stilt the Committee ornmittee otsap: must ht.tontent with, that which it di sa p prove. , ; " by this could never be 2.1) 1e to tit v tele - at.all ta perhapsponany Measure' for it was hardly, conceiveable how the House should' agree in the first instancewtohianhy measure which was . to succeed a bad' one, approved o f ; that coOld rot which was generally w di a s e the case, for h 'was to.suceeed any measure ought to be matter of discussion. . frir„ prir s _ m i . • ' ' presen t no difficulty - whatever. in the aniendinent, on ebceifilorform. of account of the want of a words to succeed those. proposed specific laic to tout and 1., - I. had sketched something to that cif. La obviate the further use of that objec tion, which did to o__c ot appear to him to be very good ~ g , , for surely it was competent to the House to say •it did not approve of a- certain treasure, bavelore it had determined that - another measure, or hether any measure should be adopted instead of it. He thought there better secur't i was 1 y in • • rhhaving three Officers than one to judge of a case as this. He then stated the substance _ what he thought might without impropriety L e adopted in lieu of this Clause, which was, that it shall be lawful for a Commanding Officer of a C orps, quire a number o f O ffi cers of /such Corps to examine and p c n dience or ronou eon any a ll egat i on of disobe tniscat o a n on, or want of attention, negli. genre, Bce. if they such pe rs „ ou •ht;_t lx repor t their opinion that manding Offit -4 'Prove dischar ged, and the Com. person to be'disciiargPedoyetlitheteof, &co then su c h _Chat,. or any other form which had that '_Chat, hef Should approve, and that was the idea on accouent _w iich he should vote to.night on the question now befor e the Com mittee. The CHANCELLOR of the Exco EWE% spo k e warmly.againit tl.e proposed olterat.oro .. . Mr, GREY spoke shortly in explanation. Mr. S' oec. y RKL: arg ued ivrtie st the a- d oien tnent, o. its Involving a total•altetatioti of the Volonteer Sys'. —and theoarguinents upon which it was sup ported -- . i apeeated to him to be of a similar kind with those used b. I him . yi h; (I),m-sets of the Volunteer Sys. te m r r - P Mr. aveNorsu Sirs 12 c 41. pULTENIty, J. NtCHnLL s, Lord G. u deliver_, 1 , ~ M. CURWEN and Sir Wm. MI LNER , c heir sentiments; after which the question was lotoll I Caned for, and there a ppeared when a : division to o k place, , . - For the Amendment -. • - . 69' - For the Clause, as i t or i ginally stood - 116 Majo r i ty - - 47 Til, Strangers were excluded for a consilerable tithe. On oar re. admisssio n to the Gal,ery, the Committee were proceedin g with the cliscu,sion of -the clause respedin the levying distresses in cer- Mr. PITT took occasion to express his regret at ,• the change of Opinion which kid taken place on _that ' point, as it clearly app e a hl red to him at the od e • o f proceeding to a distress, was more that as well as less efficacious than.the alternative of commitment for a short period. The effect of this idea was, supported by a MEM , a und er t h e Gallery, who said there was a de_ r iotion of people against whom such a proceeding co uld not obtain at alt. -----,?!,/lr, YoRKE shortly explained. M. %TR C.AND adverted to the Clause he-had ;'''Poed on a former night, -relative to this part of the aubiea; be 1 1 , 0 since slimed a Clause agreeably r. 14,1 Ow so9Qcsitans,."-A I=l gai CHotW the SEC R E . ' TA Yat V k, tt . h! cir,u ~1 w hi c h was , t h, it a !, :toper . of t , Prtrali4ys.sh.falci be allowedg, f.;r /he !I",:mvnt•"f Thii was agreed to lie [lie ICarninfttee, -- .:,,;:w,a 5 , a Clause proposed ,by Mr. Se- . ctet,ley YORKE -to prevent the undue 'accumulation: finFs„ , • Mr. SecretaryYolmE . proprised two other Clauses, the one respeaing.the powers of. Commanding Offi cers with respect to the tniscontluel of Volunteers and the second relative 7 to the Exemptions of the ~Servants of Farmers. enrolled in Volunteer Corps. :T4.se, as we:l a; a third Clanse proposed by the Ri g h t Hon. Secretary, respeding.the remuneration to he given to the Clerks of the Deputy Lieutenants, sec . . were severally agreed to by the Comniitiee. Mr. PITT shortly stated, he had two' other Cl-uses to propose, which being brought Up by the Right Hon;Gentleman, and read from the Chair, appeared to the following effel : The first went to give a power to Commanding Officers, in case of Volunteers absenting themselves from exercise, ex cept in cases of illness .duly proved, to levy a fine not exceeding 55. for every day a Volunteer shall absent himself, and if the.person liable to the fine should not he chargeable with the Poor's Rates, &c. that the said fine should, not exceed is. The second . went to impose, in cases of negleaing to attend for three successive days, the sum of 405. and the sum of ss. for every subsequent non-attendance, &c. Mr. Secretary YORKE conceived it his duty to oppose the inttodutaion of such enactments into the ;Bill. .He was of opinion, that instead of amelio rating, they would greatly tend to overset the sys tem. He was adverse to the principle of applying, except where it could not be avoided, Parliamentary Regulations to things of the kind ; andin illustrat ing these positions, he referred to_ certain Regula. tions adopted in the Defence Ad. Mr. PITT observed, he did not mean to trouble the Committee by taking their sense -upon the points, still he conceived such Regulations would. be highly serviceable. The observations of the Right Hon, Gentleman, in reference so the Defence A.6t, did not apply to the points in discussion, lain the one case the enrolment was :compulsory, in the other voluntarily. He deprecated the it e+ of such • regulations involving a breach faith,:, when the Unlimitted power of t resignation 3 ,was re. membered : so far from Parliament being implicated upon the occasion, -those things were expressly. left to the regulation of His Majesty's Ministers, and that they_ were not properly arranged, was because the Executive Government did not think fit to pro, vide the necessary regulations---(" Hear! Hear!") He however did not mean to presS the question he had brought the regulations forward in the full persUasion that the efreCts would be highly beneficial. He hoped, at the same time, that the event might not chew their rejection- was prejudicial ; ,and that the progress, ofdiscipline might not be impeded by the decision of Thar- night. Mr. Secretary' Yoßicg shortly explained: The questions were then put on the above-stated Arn4ndnaenrs, which were negatived by the Corn. mit tee. The Clauses, &c. being entirely gone through, Mr.. Secretary YORKE said, 'that with respell to the future progress of the decisions, he would propose that the Report be immediately received, that the Bill with the Amendments should then be printed, and that' the,Report should be farther con sidered on Thursday, if no other business stand in the way, or on Friday. Mr. PITT observed,' that the . Motion which he had given notice of for Thursday, it was his inten tion to make on that day. Mr. Secreiary YORKE took the opportunity to observe, that it would be proper Ministers should have some previous information as to the nature of the Right Hon. Gentleman's intended Motion : he would therefore submit the propriety of a communi cation from the Right Hon, Gentleman on that head. Mr. PITT said, it would be obviously irregular at that moment, before the Chairman lu quitted the Chair, to make the desired cominunkoi , n. The House then resumed, and Mr. ALEXANDER brought up the Report, , hich WAS received pro forma. The House ordered the BM, 'as amended, to b e p r i n ted, and on the Motion ,o Mr. Secretary YORK t, to be taken into further consideration on Fli.liiy next. . . Mr. PITT then ol)s-er:ed, that with respect to the Motion of which lie ' had given notice for Thursday next, it was for the production of some important information respeCting that Very essential piiiiit t the Naval Defence of the Coui.trv, as he had at•the tine expressed, and he entertained no sort of objeCtion then to state the principal objeds of it. It was far from his wish that His Majesty's NJinisteis should nut he fully apprized as to the rature of the information he proposed to call fur, and under this impres_ . sion he had already communicated to one of the Lords of the Admiralty the nature of 1 the required information.—What he would first state, and wished principally to direft the attention of the House to, would relate particularly to that description of Naval force more immediately adapted to repel! any attempts the Nnemy might make, at Invasion, and the manning thereof, and re speCting_ which, he thought information should especially be given. He should require an account of the nuniber of Ships in commission, and employ ed in different ways at the present moment ; and also the number of what these were in the year !Soh—He also desired to obtain copies of the orders given in the course of the present War by the Admiralty for augmenting this force, either by building new or repairing old Ships. He wished also fur an authoritative statement of the orders issued in the coure of the last War at different pe. riods, for the same 'purposes., There were, accounts relatiVe to other desctiptions of Naval Force now fit for service, which he thought would be proper. to have before the House, and also, an exposition of the steps taken fur augmenting the Line of Battle I Ships since the Peace. He also wished it to be known by regular documents, the number of Sea men employed the first year of the late War—,what they were in the end of the year 17 92 — an d t h e se comparatively stated with what .the numbers were at the end of last year, These were the outlines of ~~...:, , t ZII inspiiries Le rrnpos , d to make no Th,;;;•!av, and c(in't)eshodld te • then !..=gt.aucq 6 1 / 4 - to l d, yin the morinn he should Lay.e.the h nt u Co make. The C4-lANCELLOR 40e pre%enred cerpit) ,atc qtrlt.s relative to 11 , 1,:j•sty's titles of,whi - ch were read short b% Or The papers were then, on the m ition of Ithe CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER, ordered to , bereferred to the Committee appointed to take into L i consideration the state 9f His Maj e sty's Civil List. The other Orders of the Day were then dispoied of, and . the House, at half past 120'dock, adjourn. ed to the usual hour this day. MAILS. PUS. Cottenburgh - ----- -'• 2 Hatnourgu 4 Fi 'o . 1 6• PRICE F STOCKS, THIS DAY AT TWYLYZ O'CLOCK. Consols THE SUNi SOIAM QUIZ DICER& FALSUM AVDLAT ? o LONDON, MARCH 13, 1804. " Queen': House, March 13, 180 4. " HI& MAJEST Y continues to recover. (Signed) "L. PEPYS. ♦[ F. MILFL AN. 'I H. R. REYNOLDS. " W. HLBER.DEN." Yesterday morning His MAJESTY walked in the Garden for a considerable time. - About twelve o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR had an audience of His MAJESTY. Our Letters from Deal and Dover inform us, that a Gun-brig was yesterday seen at the back of the Goodwin Sands, having three French Gun-boats in , tow, standing for the Dawns. As the Cannonading still continued yesterday in the South-East quarter, we hope that more may be taken. Yesterday some of the Vessels loaded with stones, for the purposes Which we some' some days ago an nounced, passed down the River 'for the Downs. WE this forenoon received Moniteurs to the 29th ult. They ate wholly silent respeaing both REAU Or PICHEGRU, and are chiefly filled with Ad dresses to the Chief Consul on his escape from his pretended Conspiracy, particularly from the Armies encamped at Boulogne, St, Omer's, and other Can tonments in the neighbourhood of the Coast. On the 261.11 BONAPARTE held a Diplomatic Au. dience, at which several presentations took place by Count CostrurzEt.,, the Marquis de GALLo, and other Ministers. The Moniteur of the 27th first announces the KING'S illness, to which it seems to attach great importance. An article from Constantinople of the t sth of Fe. bruary states, that while the Capital of Egypt(Grand Cairo) was agitated by incessant troubles, the City and Pori of Alexandria enjoyed the greatest calm. About the Bth of last. July this happy state of things ceased upon the arrival of ALi PACHA, sent by the Ottoman Porte, with - the title of Viceroy of all Egypt. The excesses which this man and his satellites committed, excited. the complaints of the Agents of Foreign Powers. Explanations took place, and an arrangement was'entered into, in which a redress of grievances was stipulated. In consequence, the French, ; §ub-Commissary and his Suite, who had retired on board the Ottoman Fleet, landed again, and were received in the• most dis. tinguished being . Siltited with 17 guns when leaving, the,Fleet. Letter.; from Cairo state,• that the Mamelukes commit the, most vexatious excesses, under the pre.: text of sums due to the Albanians. The In*ahi tants dread being pillaged and massacred in their houses ; and the waters of the Nile not having risen to their usual height, that Capital is menaced with a scarcity. .Disunion reigns amongst the Ma melukes themselves, who are continually imposing contributions. OSMAN BEY enjoys the whole au thority ; the English have made some Valuable pre. sent s—they have promised him much, even succours from India. The French Funds on the 27th were at 58. A Jamaica Mail arrived this morning, brought to Falmouth by the Leicester Packet •in 5.4. days. It brings an account of the Capture of a Spanish Sloop of War by His Majesty's Ship ./Eo/gs, elf St. Domingo. MR. PITT last night in the House of Commons stated the outline of his Motion respeaing the Na val Defence of the Country, which he means to make on Thursday next. The first objeft 'of this most important and most necessary inquiry, re lates to the description of Naval Force prepared to repel the attempt of the Enemy at Invasion.-- A comparative statement will likewise be made between the Line of Battle Ships now in commission, and in the year 1801 ; and what is still more im portant, an examination will be made into the measures taken for keeping up and augmenting the number of our Line of Bettie Ships. t. Sinc? the condua tlie N-0.7 R„ 41 !Ac Se_ pine mat ref of Cl) e, voion it, a &Lea:et' I.l.f.gr,'e of activity' has prs7vailed in t11;t Orderc h ! ve !t-s_en given to take ty Ves,els cAleulated tr water, a sT , ecies f..ree in ‘.4 hich we are extremely drfi ent, a:ld it is intended L. - )}' this . to ciCak past inatii , ity, and an appearance of i'resent hustle. Such arts will not certainly • av:til. The disCussion of, Thursday We have no doubt will be serious and soletnn, and every thing will be made to ai , peal: as it really is, without partiality or prejudice. A Vote of Credit for two Millions yesterday passed a Committee of Ways and Meall in the House of Commons, which Mr. AootricroN said was not necessary to answer any immediate demand, but which he moved for in' order to gite him a greater latitude when he came to. contraet for the Loan for the service of the present year. The Volunteer Bill passed through the Com mittee, and the Report was ordered to be received cn Friday. The Clause proposed by Mr. Secretary Irc ‘ at:s; for giving a power to Cominatidint cers to, dismiss any Member of their respeCtive Corps, was carried upon 'a division, after a discus— sion of Considerable length. Tuts morning two. Gottenbri M ails arrived. Letters from that Port, of the 7th instant, confirm a former report, that four Dutch Armed Ships were at Bergen, in Norway, full of Troops, and that an English Frigate, said to be the Thetis, had anchored in the same Harbour. We have received by these Mails some - Extra6ts from the Hamburgh Correspondenten of the 25th and 26th of last month. These Extraas contain acs counts from St. Omers, and from the Hague, which concur in asserting that the Expedition will take place in the course of the present month. 'General' MARMONT had taken the command of the Troops in Holland, which are to I rm the Right Wing of the Expedition against Etigland. The "[loops in the Texel were expelled to embark early in this month. . AMSTERDAM, FEB. 13.—The extraordinary sensation oc-. casioned by the seizure of English goods in the I sl,,nd or Walcheren and Batavian Brabant. has considerabl' subsided • since the circumstances attending it have been inure accu rately known. T:lis measure was directed by the French Minister at War on the 3uth of *nary.. Among the Eng- ; lisp commodities are- specified ininiufadures of wool and cotton, nankeens, inuslins, English-carpets, cotton and wool len caps, hardware, English porcelain and glass. , Whatever_ has been taken away which is not one of these articles, has : been restored. It was ordered that the search should be made . 1 by the Batavian and French 0 Ricers of the Customs conjointly, or by the latter only, if the former refused. la the town of Veere no English goods were found; and in Middleburg sci few, that General MONNIT ordered them to be restored to the owners. The goods seized at Flushing were packed up • and sealed by tile owners themselves, and taken out of the waggon in which they had been put to be carried to .4 depot at Flushing, where they will remain till. further, orders arrive from Paris. General MoicilET has given, an account of these milder measures, in a letter transmitted to the Government of Zealand, in conse...l qucnce of the remonstrance .they athlresed to him,. - The General, however, has ,complained of some of the expres- , ions of this remonstrance. lie observes that the English trade in-the Island of Walcheren has hitherto been of little' consequence, and that the measures taken will completely -, , pre7eate commercial speculations of the Enemy tri4his: Countryda ai nd be as advantageous as the gaining of riviClo6 , . From Batavian Brabant, Breda; -Bergen-op-zoorn, . about ao wagons laden with English goods have.peen ;ent to., Antwerp ; their value is estimated at two millionS Of pyres but as the greater part of them are not English;nbut lnanufaeti tured in Batavian Brabant, it is expedad they will beiesipared. According to accounts from Cleves of the 15th, Rear-Ad miral STORY still continues'there under arrest. - Fre•iS ed 6y two Soldiets. All his Papers have been sealed up .and: sent to Paris, whence a speedy decision concerning itimasex. 7 , peeled. Yesterday about twelve o'clock HER MkjIISTY . and the PRINCESSES ELIZABETH and MARY took an airing on the Clapham Road. The Embargo, it is asserted, • will be taken off this day or to.morrow. We art sorry to state, that there is great reason : to apprehend that General Pt CHIGRU has falleuint'q the hands of the French Government. A Dutch. Paper of the sth inst. •is said to have been received in Town; which gives the particulars of his .Arrest in an obscure lodging at Paris, after considerable resistance. It is said that General PICHECR LT sailed from Deal in a small Vessel on the i hof nuary, andtha t he arrived at Calais on the 16th,whett he was me t by GEORG E S, Who accompanied hintol'a,.. ris. This accoun t we think very improbable. if the General wished to get secretly into France, he would hardly choose Calais as a place to land at. The next arrival of the French Papers will, however, clear up all doubts Upon this subjeEt. We must not omit to add, that it is stated with great positiveness in a Morning Paper of this day, that General PICHECRU arrived in London last Friday, and, that he dined in company Itith General DUMOUR IRR and some other Emigrants on Sunday last, at,Gene.. ral WILLO T'S, in Curzon-street. DEAL MARCH i2.—Sailed the Ex//osion Bomb for Dungeness, and the Basilisk for the Boulogne Station. A Gun-brig, name unknown, is at the back of the Goodwin Sands, with three French Gun-boats coming into the Downs. The Cannonading still continues in the South E a st, but no arrivals yet. The Speedwell Brig came in Prim a Cruize, and sailed for Dungeness ; and the Thunder Bomb came down from the Nore, and sailed for Portsmouth, DOVFJ, MARCH 2.—nring has been heard at intervals the whole of to-day, in the direttion of Boulogne. Not a day has passed since Thursday last without a considerable firing being heard from that quarter. an: of the King's Brigs was seen this evening, at a great distance, steering for the Downs with three large Boats in tow, which out seafaring people are quite cerrain are French. PORTSMOUTH, MARCH I Z.—Cane into 'Harbour to refit, His Majesty's,Ship Alonzo, Captain IM- P EY, having got on shore in Chichester Park, Sailed the Abundance Store-shir, Capt. FE ARC F, for the West Lilies, _with six Sail of Merchant net, under Convoy, which. were left behind last Convoy. 1