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PARLIAM ENI: HOUSE OF PEERS, RI DAY, LI A 1", Z 2.! AFTEZ. disposing of some routine Business, the Order of file Day was read respeCting Mrs. Addi son's DivOrce Bill, and accordingly the frouse re. solved itself into a Committee thereon, Lord VIAL GINGHAM in the Chair. The LOkt CHANCELLOR in pursuance of his Propositions on a former evening, brought forward his. Amendment respecting the disposition of the Children of Mr. and Mrs. Addison, whom we .understood to, be one mall 'and one female, both now under age. The - Noble and Learned Lord pointed out the strong propriety' of securing tip these children, as far , as the case would possibly hd_ mit, the bsnefit of a virtuous and proper education, and not, leave them, as otherwise, by the opera- • *ions, of the hey • might be, solely•endersthe•eare of •a Father, who had concluded himself in such a way as Mr. Addion had 'notoriously done, We • understood frdm the Noble And Learned Lord, that the son being intended for •a prolesion, and , partly •engaged in one, it -would nit bu adviceablo, or in some degree, pridieable, to take .him entirely , • from the prote4ion of his father : the daughter, it was intended should be 'wholly under the care and 'I . • proteaiOn of her virtuous mother ; and both child ren .Were, doring their minority, to .be • consiaerell • as Wards of Chaneery, ,to which' Court beth Mr. and Mrs. Addison. would be reqedively answer. able for their condnd to the child under the care of ;each. Having dweifivith Much feeling' and ability on .these points, and some, secondary considerations cormeded with the case, he- proposedsAmerrements to the different Clauses, grounded thereon,. winch, • after some conversation between the :01sica. of CLARENCE, The Earl of RQSLYN, and the Learned :Lord, were agreed' to by the Committee, after which, the House resumed. The gar, of SUFFOLK, in Coniequetice 'of What had pissed on a former evening, again called the attention of the HoUse to the subject of a Petition from John Heron, : a private. Soldier in the Focit Guards, complaining of ParticUlar grievances,. and unnecessary hardships,'which were alledged td have 'been suffered by him, under 'the for the Sus . pension of, thelfebeas Corpus His Lordship observed, that ' , he had not only read the Petition, but that ,since the period he alluded to, a new Peti tion had been prepared, which s 'ome matter was • • onlieted, which the former Petition contained, and . • whieh might possibly be deemed•Objettionable.— iiis Lordship in the course of his Address,. made , - some allusions to the manner in which the Habeas Corpus Stispension *Bill had been passed, : together -with - sorrre - retrtsreles - on the great importance-of the ' Bill, in. a Constitutional point of view, &c. He • goncluded a variety of obsereations,of this general deseriptien, by moving that the Petition be read. It was •aceordi•ngly read' lay the Clerk, end :ap. pearedto contain a detail oralledged•haidships. and grievances,' which the Petitionerdescribedehimself to have• Suffered under the provinion's of the Bill fur .sespending of the Habeas e Corpus witle•respeel; to his 'arrest, detention, Confinernent, &c. &e. . After the Petition hail been read, • • The liorl SU.e.i . i . OLK again .addressed the . House; aed.insiseed that the Petition contained mar .ter which constituted a case that called for the in tterposition of the Legislature. • He adverted gene_ rally to: the state of the Prisons, which had, always • keen considered as just grounds for the interference i - orParlitinsene,' and partiCulatlyeto that in the eold ebith.fields Prison,, where'peisons. apprehended by virtue of, the 'Bill in question were 'generally:con -fined. 16 this part of hi 3 address•the Noble'Earl 41.410 to the case and: 'alledged s sUfferingS of Col. Despard, to which heft had called .their Lordships' at "teriiton. about three steal's' ago. Having heard 60 rot: the ill treattneet experienced by the ,I.'ri seneifs the Cold s teithf.fields Prison, he -deemed incerebeneon himself to' visit it in person. - When ittepresented himself at -the door, he was very un expetlepy 'refused, admission- 7 41e ' informs:d the Turnkey of, his ran): title, • etc.. but without .effeft, as . io order, : he was toll, had been sent from •the Secretary of •Stete's Office, to prohibit the ade -fnihsien of strangers into . the prison Without an eice - press peFmissione 'On 'this eirceinstance. his ,Lbrel. ship.expzitiated a gsiete deal, ;and - censured the pro- • ,ceeding as renrohensilsle.—He .srat6d,. that us the , 'course of a few days , he should submit regularly to the House` some •prseositiens arising 'out' of the -general subject; ;led one of these„ as we understood . jhe„.Noble Earl, would he,a resolution to a.ttiiorize • rhe : •:admission of 'nersons•ilito any of the. PI SOIOn •:ar; ureter. sic by tsvo• Peers: . His Lordship then -proceeded to reOttate upon the tenden4 of Ate •• _rill for the' Suspension . of the Habeas Corpirs with resped to the 001160'0 of the Constitution s • the sta:tC of • the, cold-bath-fields Prison, •the great strength of the ease, which was stated in the Peti. Jices e enl, other / pipet cesseneeted. with the subject, and. itstireated his interttion of moving have the Petition Nike') into coosideratiure • I'ke LORD' Cl/my?: .:tttow . clotteit Ole 'WWI-. 'sack, , 4nd in answer' to iiibat had :fallen front the Notsill'Esrl•oltser'ited, •tlia`i hi honed , Lordship wes awate oldie diaiencebetweete the presenting a y,,,4;6:n,Pticla.motioe for taking it into cqtfr,ideratlen. • Tut the' fovine r case, the Lore who presetited it should • in order to be satisfiesi that it eoptained no. • thin'lse ,rosier in the first instance fur the House so,heareeaed , in , the , second Catie, which was a more • mPot'etisi one, he shorild satisfied:that the Jeri_ • tiop Ontitincd no alleptiOn; bat wins; 'l,vas true r t f subjed heti - ire their Lordships wns one of the most serious • importance. Ile Petition which they bad just heard. read, contained much tiLyp itu. serloQs rellesfLticni Iwo:I the kizgistrapy of the Coteary, frinn to e highest to the _Very lowest, and peon persons ,concerned in, diet acfmlitistra t ion, of the )ustiee of rite Country below 'tire rsiink of ;j‘/I- giitrotes. • His Lordship spoke in terms of euloglum of the 4e'noral pfehe English Magistrates.; f, •"of 'their grcet 'henuinity and • stri4 tgiserv.twx• qi those .Laws wllich. they were cherged tq execute, It- tett] him, he obseryed, as very singular, and he •eatfld scot forbseir pr , ...;s: . ing it to the attention of their Loti.it,iiips, that of 4 1 , - the various deseriptioes of. persons confingti in the different Gaols of this Kipg,. dot, not .one class or description of them ever came forward with such chargewagainst the Magistrates, or those acing under them, buy those who were confined on .charges of Treastib, or Treasonable Prliakes. It appeared to him very eturacodinary indeed, that men whose charaaer for Humanity to,' and proper treatment of, the accused, was always remarkable, should towards that one solitary class of Prisoners, depart from that cliaraaer. He therefore recommended to the Nob* Earl i to turn his fitten_ tioh seriously to the consideration, Whether_ the allegatiOns in the Petition %very true. or,not. The Earl of S UFFOLK entered into a ; detailed account of the manner in which he first became quainted with the case of the Petitioner ; in doing which he stated some very minute pa'rtkulars, and recited some conversations that passed upon the af fair in question: In the course of his statemerit,he was called to Qrder, first by , Lord WALSINGHAM,'who submitted whether the Noble Earl was not going into details obviously irrelevant to the 'subjed - iegularlY before the House; and secondly, by Lord HOBART who followed the same ground, but seemed to urge 'the objeaion more forcibly. The Earl of SUFFOLK urose,,_atid ,with some warmth, contentlrd - ho had been strialy in Order, and that no Lord had constitutionally a right to hinder him from proceeding in such a line of statement as he was interrupted tn. - He then continued his nar ration, in which his Lordship semed to , refer to some matter which had passed in an examination be fore the Privy Council —soon after which The LORD CHANCELLOR again quitted the Woolsack, and spoke to Order, observing in addi tion,. that what the Noble Earl had stated was in- conddVertibly irregular, as he, had referred to what _hid passed in-the Privy Council„which, certainly, it must be supposed, was always -kept stri&ly secret. The, , .earl 11 - SUFFOLKagain rose and continued to addre3s the House with respeEt to the case of the Petitioner, of whom he professed to knqw, very lit tle, hut that he was a Soldier, and had a family, His Lordship then adverted to. what occurred relative to the affair in the Courts below,, where we under stood his Lordship to say, the case was prevented from going before a jury; upon Which The LORD CHANCELLOR a third time quit tcd the Woolsock, sand after' technically observing to their Lordshiis 'tlie nature of the proceedings which had taken place upon the case in aCourt of justice, obserKed, • that it was consequently the op tion of the party himself that the case did not go before' a Jury ; but, added his Lordship, there are some cases which would better bear investigation any where else than before a jury. The Orders , of, the Day, were then called for by several Peers, and, as w'e• could collea with regard to the above affair, that the Petition was ordered to iie on,the Table ; and it was understood, that in the course of next week, the Noble- Earl would bring 'forward his Pro positions on the • subjed. l'he Bills before the House were fOrwarded in their respeetive , stages ; .and two Private Bills, whieh.were brou4ht up from the Commons, were read severally a first time. _ , THE L4TE SIR RALPH ABEACROMIM The Order of the Day being read for taking His 'Majesty's most gracious Message, respeaing the grant Of a Barony to lite Relia and Heirs Male of the late distinguished Sir RAPH MIERCROMBY, - and a Remuneration to his family, by a grant of a Pension of 290°1. per annum, to her Ladyship, and the two next Heirs to the Barony, into considera- , tion, being read, Lord Hofinar moved an Address to His MA- J ES ry on the occasion, thanking fits MAi P.m: - for his most gracious communica: ion ; fiighly ap_ proving of the circumstance;,tlwrcin mentioned, and assuring.,His MAjEsry of the most cordial concur rence of the House to t'llable HIS MAJESTY to cart- the same fully into efrefi. On the question tieing put, The L'iert . of MOIRA rose, and pronounced a very elegant , and-appropriate. enlogiuni 611 the pri vate,asivell as,,,the professional eharaCier of the late Sir RALPH ADERcitomur.—The Motion before 'ihelloiiSe had' warinegteonearrence ;he begged 'at'' the Same ;time to;a44, itnimdu'ai, though humble tribute of applau.ze, to.tluise. Ministers who had so laudably cOrae- forward, and for advising the biitinty . ,iir the Crdwn to be'bestOwed in a quarter where it Wal; so richly deserved, and in. away so liicely to conduce to the - real interests of the Country. The Address was then voted nent.-eliss I.,ANDS. Lord CAA a I NGTON moved the Order of the Day for the second readng of the Bill for providing tor d'i'e Ins:lo3ore anajTinprovernent of Certain:Waste and Uncultivated Lands in England and Wales, without tcadrliantent in such ca3c 4 . 'The Bill was forthwii 11: read a second time; previ_ ous to his 'Anton, that the: Bill be committed, — His; Lordship. - addressed - the - House in a speech. of t oonsideea,ble ° which; he displtyed Much ability and very extensiye info - rmatipp i lrk #ul.l - the very great importanee o f the sulljeet, and referied:' to,' those - repntts: , of various CPMlllitt4 f 4; that,o (.heir 0410,iiPi,' last, whom it . was ref,?rred,. that' the measure provid':d fo r by the Bill before the. House,Wasthe'very best which the: circumstance.; of - the Country,' as applyiPg to the:east, ht4nitted - of , He obserVed, thatit appear ed the immense geantity of 7, ioo,c , oci, acre,%,'tif . land were waste and uncultivated in England and Wales only ; th4l . 2 ,Considersble portion of th o se • were 3vi:ll calculated for 'the gfOvtli of Corn, a cite*- stanee which must.be of the greatest consolation: so the'HOuse and to the Country,, when they relleded that when the =awes propoS'ed by the Bill Were carried into (Med, a recurrence of that misery and distress arising, from a OCarCiiy'of that vital article, could not-take iiace. He adverted to thecireum stanee of the great importation of Corn from foreign Countries Within the two last. years, which were necessarily purchased at a, great:4isadvantage ; for these not a less sunk than 7 , Millings for each year were'paia by this COuntry by the eventual opera. tionk -of the Bily the annual produce of the Country would - in future abundantly tip Ply consumption` of its population, I-Ns consideration al one was f o such ; intakulable importance, that every der should vanish into air before ir. The N)hle Lord thp proceeded r to, a, detailed expo sit.on of the various provi:ions and regulations of the Bill, and which took up the greater parr of his Speech. In thti statement,,from its very detailed and eomplicatectlVature, as %veil as from the low tone and s direction of his. Lordship's voice, feeling our selves unable, we shall not follow his Lordship, but through the medium - RA an abstraft Orihe Bill, Which we shall shortlrlasr before our readers : One of the leading provisions, goe .to,thtitppoinlpent of a Board, who, it is proposed, shall have the chief management and controul of the-;various mat ters conneCled with the Mt, -and especially- to take intO t their all the Rulesand Standihg Order& ot -both Houses of fartiament, relative to Bills of Inclosure. -His Lordship also went. into some calculations with respeft to. rhe'iavings,'which he described, would accrue' in consequence of the Bill, as well as suggested-a variety of, considep dons, with respell to which, he deemed the. meal sure as likely to .have a salutary and beneficial tendency.. He concluded by moving, that the Bill be committed. ,The'LORD CHANCELLOR' observed, that by his not opposing thsi;Mation for the going into a Committee, he wished to have it understood, that he Was by no means pledged to support the Bill' in its sub'sequent'progreSs. 'He could not refrain,,.he said, from troubling their Lordships in the ptesent instance with a few considerations, which deeply aireCied him with respea to the measure "in quescion. One of the first objediens that struck Min was, its originating, in a great degree, with certain bodies' of men, to whose consideration.it was propo3ed be fore Parliament. was resorted to. To these .bodies of men,las,sueh, the Constitution of this Country by no means entrusted the . investigation 'of such topics. - In his progress on some late Circuits,•he had occasion to observe, that the Sheriffs of several Counties, who were the King's Officers, submitted the subje& in question in charge to their respeCtive Grand Juries. To such a line of proceeding he was decidedly hostile, as 'if such bodies of men were suffered to discuss such points, political or any other kind of topics might as well be submitted to their consideration. He felt .it his duty to say as mueh, and had given his opinion while on the Bench against the praliee. It was ,also with regret . that he • observed, that on some occasions, where the sukjeft was treated of, language was held,' respeft to the Ecclesiatical .Establish. ments of the Country, which it was neither decent nor just to use; He should attend to the principle of the measure as well as to the provisions .Of the Bill ; and though his anxiety was as great to see his fellow subjeCts comfortable and well fed, as any person. in that House, yet he cautioned their Lord ships as to the effeft of holding out Elise hopes with respeCt to this measure. Considering it With resped to the principle, he was ,attach ed to 'that old English maxitn, which ordains that property should be alienated by Parliament alone; and in order to shew that certain' provisions in the Bill clashed with' thkprinciple, he. entered into some detaili respcaing the same,. particularly as they affet - led the rights. of Commonage; and coptended that by them. property was disposed of without the concurrence of Parliament. He made a variety of . i observatia9s respeaittg the .pewers of the propOsed Board, and, as we' under stood his Lordship, of those to be trusted in the Judges by the Bill, On*.Points in which he seemed to doubt that the judges thernsehres, were competent to decide. What related to the article of Tithes involved serious and weighty considerations ;: and he alluded to *hat some modern 'Writers of a certain description had held out .upon that point, namely, 'that if thelkight . aTithe were once got ,over, Landed Titles could be easily affeaed, the prin ciples 'of justtee ''sliciuld he' better 'attended to when :thar:suhicet • was in consideration. . He then touched upon the patronage to .' be invest. - the and it 3 - at tentilmt nees-, which he thought rendered it, with respedra; least to_ itt origin, fitter for the meridian of the other House. His opinion was, that instead of the measure's proving etohemical, it would turn nut the reverse; and as it then stood, would impede rather than promote a:system of inClosute, arx. that in' it§ areas it would prove more burthensome than the present mode, as well as create endlesS In Concluding; His Lordship observed, that he cer tainly should hold it his duty to oppose ,the Bill, even after . comiti ,, out of the Committee, 'f'tshould • conk out no better than it went in. The.Dreke cf IiEDFOPD argued in favour of the Bill, judging that it would conduce C . the general prosperity of the Country, and also prevent: the an. nual and heavy expence of applications to Parliament for partial Inelosures. The Earl 1 1I 1 ROSLrN expressed considerable apptehensions.of,theeffed'whiels a measure of this kind might' produce. He vieived'it with jealousy, as' likely to trench upon the' old establiphed Laws and Customs interwoven in-the ConstitutiOn, ana thought that in such times.as these, the 'greatest caution should be obsettred,in introducing any sfs_ tem of innovation. yHis Lozdbhip expremloyalajec . ted to the proposed plan of vesting in the Grand,junes; at Quarter Sessions a judicial power of deersion i n c ases of.proposed Incli . osures. he.iness with which he did not set they hactprrigh t to 'i n . terfere. The. Gr4tnd juries were . aisqnl4ed . b ut f or a very short time,' When a variety - of neceiquy sinesscanie before them, They could neither ha v e time nor opportunity to lipen to ebnteSted c l a i ms of Commo nage , nor to'fhe objeeliotis of those who might think themselves aggrieved .by plans of par ticular, Inclostres ; not did hi& Lordship,' believe i lf he might j u d ge o f t h e f uture : from. tlm past) Pi4t such In e lcisures 'would increase the , A gr i eu l tut il Piosperity.of the country, in any degree td the ex tent that had been supposed. Many who had, for merly applied for Inelosures had found the expence attending them so great, that after a year or two ) they had been induced, in order to repay themselv es, to convert' their arable into pasture Land. His .Lordship particularly noticed a printed report which he believed had found its way into the Annals of the Board of Agriculture,' stating the, result of a Survey m a d e b y two F armers from East Lothian in Scotland, on some Agricultural Distrins in York. shire. These tw9 Scoteh faturts had fat exceeded the bounds of moderation, for they presumed freely to remark upon and censure matters of political ceconomy, with 'which their Agricultural Survey had nothing to do. They had derived all their ideas from the different customs and circumstances of their own Country, and -condemned whatever in this Country was not found by them to corres pond. Hence they took upon them to censure the system of the Poor Laws, and of Tithes, because nei flier ;of didt - Welt efrabilltectin - Scotland, and most probably retailed the Mc-house conversations an i dsentimert z those with whom they associged ii their progress.. . . . . .... This cailedmp„Lor4,sogszimLE, to explain what -had .been :dont while he was Prdident of the Board of Agriculture. - , Lord C ARRINGTON, also Accounted for such an improper survey as that alluded . to, getting abroad. He said, -they. .were sent up ready printed final Scotland, and after reading!it carefully, as President of the .Board, he pointed out many of the improper passages to themi, and that, in consequence,, they printed a-pages and prefixed it to , the Survey, la menting.that so . improper a pamphlet should. have foUnd its way to the Public. Lord HOBART defended the Bill, nor was lie aware-thatthe alteration proposed in the method of deciding upon cases 'of IncloSure, would have the ofbitAttridtllvith-theinermyentencies which the Noble and 1.-arned Lord had suggested. Ile poke of, this li ßill the result of the labours of their, Lordships' Committee, and coming with the authority of their recommendation, after they been-at_ great pains to _iiiieStigate thaest means of preventing a recurrence of that Scarcity W ith which this Country had lately been visited. H e trusted, that the Bill would be suffered to go int o a COmmittee,, when it might undergo such curreajoas or alterations as might be judged proper. had The Duke of MONTROSE rose also to support the...4114_ witieb .. he did by shevKir)g that at this very time a delegation of the rights and ftMelions of par liament, was atled 'upon in. Scotland, 'where, if all their Lordships were to claim rights to a coll""' n ' the matter-event before the .Lord Ordinary of Ses sion, clue investigation was had, and each inclivi• dual claim ascertained and apportioned. - The Earl of SUFFOLK approved of the Iva. sure, as calculated to turn the attention of the Public to Agricultural Pursuits, which must form the ba sis of public prosperity. The landed i nterests of the Country, and their Lordships in particular, were deeply interested in this measure. In lain could Manufa&ures be carried on with success, tvith.i out an attention to Agriculture as the ground-Wert' He ' , learnt that at this present time .France . bending much of its Attention to this point, and that she had the wisdom to discern wherein .her fro strength.and greatness consisted. She had formerly. had 'two great and renowned. Statesmen, StILLY CoLUlra but inasmuCh as. the former encourago AgriCulture more than the.ther; he considered hill as more derserving,the,oppellation of a great States man than COLBERT.. • He - then adverted to th d e gitua titm -- of - Ireland; -- and ---attributed - thr*l' ret `" e ' and disorderly state of the Peasantry in-that Coon 17Trtzihceeusl.i3et t! i r :h e e , :,l a ,ie n aof d - ohe the to the want of encouragement Of a liberal system in troduced. DAPID's said, he -e—c r rose to express his, objeition to any alteration 9fihe ptesent Lawi on the subjed of Tithes.. b e The House then agreed that the Bill should to committed on Wednesday next, and the 1°415 iosvedresas i a v i l re e r ff c e n l t ts s ; s c r .t r i ro th i e n s . be summoned. 7A . The e eaf, S tir c ur o ca t dr c t l e l t or A tt p le p l i etu a r l e , s d F ea i tt yg lil hn a t : txocit.- o'clock, against e D g a l o ry : 3 1 4 e 1 journech. •-' HOUSE OF 'COMMONS. Fap AY ) MAY xa. A new Writ was ordered to be issued for the City of Bath, inthe room of Sir RICHARD POW ie 0 A ADEN, who has been called by His MAlE sv ' a seat in the HoUse of Peers The ATTO N L It Vit. gave notice ilt°o intention to move on Wednesday next, for eav e ,,, bring in a Bill for the better recovering of Del" due to Hls MAJESTY in Ireland. The House of Lords signified to the'House. re a '.Message, their consent to the Bill w enabl e sa c Royal lachange - Assurance Company, to 11:,$iiie vessels employed in Inland Navigation, and Bill to enable the Corporation of the City of Vac don, to insure vessel s em pl o yed in the same tr 3 and.to A str ul a i l i Private. Bills. u nt n from the Customs,' of the am° , is of Bounties granted to the Greenland Fisher)' presented, .and ordered to lie on the Table. 0 , A Rsport from the Committee appointed r° ol quire min the incocni. iiikh Price of P ro visioni , presented, ordered 'to lie on the Table, a nd t° printed. It WRS ordered that the House, on its rising , ' journ to . Wedoes4y 'next.t Mr. VANSITTART nidved, that that be 131 1 1 ; fore the Haase; There Was and his M.blion being ag reed pfeseni...:,.l an Aceenni of the qutintr,,iait, Portualu jinct Madeira \Vines,. imPorted 3"t`' terent Ports 'of the KingdOm of Great :i i iog the years -0,400,: 17949 - , and 'lBOO, r ot the quantity imported each year..—ir w3s °rudistinS e to be Prkntet,ir and to lie on tim;.rstble• to co' The Report of the Committee appoinre", n ahr sider the •I:oaws expiring in Ireland was t o Pp, read,mNi agreed to, and -Bills were order'''. be brought . in pursuant to the Resolutions. i a 6e , The 1 raze Courts Regulation Bill was re a `. cond time, and committed for TuesdaY 3 hoe Mr. j9IINSTONE made a few observatl° ti to the Provisions of the Bill, which , he seernedepyi think, ought to have extended to preventing . q i o o in the High Court of Appeal, and to the restor`that of the enormous Fees of some of the Officers Court. • r w o rds in fel'. Sri WILLIAM SCOTT Said a OW WO d i e but in too low tone of voice to be heard in - Gallery, t a le ; to 0 The Report. the Committee appo•flt e , into consideration . so much of His Majes t y s its 0 , sne PS relates to granting to Baroness.