The Sun. — London, England, 1801-06-30 00:00:00

The Biskl of POCH.E6TER seen-.ed to concur with the Noble Duke, that it was the, particular duty of that part of the House to which be belong,. ed, to attend to all considerations of the National ; of wht‘h, he observed, the residence of the Clergy fumed one of the Barriers-=he there frire rook the atimoniti , ,n of his Grace in good part. His feelings, were, in common with all those who Cied the Rev, lleneh, affeeted by the consideration pf 4 Law, which goes to in some easel, pe :palties upon the innocent l and, in paters, did not upon the guilty, To illustrate these 14:)sitions, the Rev. Prelate went into some detail respecting the operations of the Law ; and with regard tp ttie "Nobie Duke's idea, that the proposition fot the ,amendment and regulation thereof, partieplatly lay with the Ileyerencl Bench, he opposed the ittl;,ges tiAon, that, as the case involved•peetinialy devotion, the other House of Parliament might be of opinion, it shouid %vith then. The' Learned Prelate apin repeated, its order to obviate. misconception with respect to tlweffe4 of the Bill, that it tended to do away no part of the statute of henry tinasitt!cl no prosecutions, but ptere ly stayvl proceedings mail the .45th ot March, when the parties would bLeome liable, as they were Ltore, Thr LQ.RD, CHANCELLUR in Commenting on , . the. general subject 13d of which the 1 in oue4ton., formed a part, displayed a. profundity of legal ,1,.• - ripw... ledge, and a 'considerable degree of discrimination.' With respet4 to is existing .Law, he . 9h . silvesl, that,theligh what had . been 'of it ,by the Rev. Prelates was founded in.fe4t, ,yet still it afforded, :both in letter and spirit, sample. gcokin4in many instances, for salutary prosecution. - In illustrating thk comprehensive proposition, Ali: Learned lord mated a variety pt cases which had come befere, . him in hid-judicial capacity, :some of which exhi.' kited instances in which the*isting,l.4kw , had been wholesprnety applied, and d grossly and unjustifi ably verv,ertcci in many others: Ile instanced a .case ciprgyrn.en, who enjoyed the Income of a lucrative Living in -the- City .of London p , which lie had not seen (or au interval of 'nit); years, dun. •- ing which ,titre, he chiefly resided, iii. Somirset , s'oire, and inste4 Of the cute of 'souls, employed himself in. the business of fox-hunting ; yet such ~ was the, otter); tit the income of this ,Ineunihency, tli,4 the non-resident die wit feel 'thepenalties, 77 -- Wle'at, he w auld ask,'weuld these be, takig dieni, at the etettent 'for ycar . .'? 'Out' Of a living . producing i2O fle tboeght an income of a very handsoMestipc; - id fctr deers nothing. In a case o.f unaVoiclable 11a051ti1*, ard ity sti6i sented theinsclves I.vithin the purview of wilco : the whole inconie of, the ing ':sight not exci:eti t toi, irt "tat case t`lle NvlLk: thefefote may. be ':l)sorbed by the penalties. Such 11,7 it absolutely: set discrimination at 'd i efiartc . , at the Sairte time; as' in the instances he had 'llo:inietrout, its o'petalion inlglit be ;,test and ;alittary. llis LarAsliip thin ad- , verted to the number of Asc.lions which were said to be now pending, and taeched iiport hadixen thrown out respcfking Informers,. obsering that, it NV itS unjuStifialle to those 'persons for doing that wl4ll the„l,aw Of' the I.,and invited them to do, and seemed. 'sw•C 6 far as it ilt; kleCidCary to approve of the .Ifill'before, the flouse. • Tie Lye of NORFOiK, in ;expl,an4cion, •ob. served; that much of his inftirmation on , the subjca in quetion was collee - ted : during ati a4tUal residence in' Ireland, and some, pf it derived from personal. o.bservation. k ne w there ,were, in . some parts of - ,lrelattil Many large Parishes abso littely without a chercli, ~ and ail that the. pro: pie ever knew, of Inc Parson,was through . the Inecliurn of the rythe,.:l 3 rotors coming to pile& 'the Tytites ; and he repeated, that: a' great ilegre,of tiegligetice existed in `these respeo,s and n this view some degree of Wante was'agiltturable tp the British Geverninent, for not interfering, on an oc , cnsion such imvurlance. With respeZA. to the • idea; that the other ;douse of Parliament* were of opinion that a measure ..of 'this kind should, exelt.: sively originate. with them, 1, 5 ohstrved, that so far from that being the c4,e, he had rezoon to think ' the delay of the ili%lS4lee Us;Zil this very late period of the. Session, arose from the expeftation the otherHow.e,that the Reverend Inc. would leive conic forWardtm the occasior • • ' , • The Marykis of LUCKINGHAM made - some observations hplii:l the 'importance of the ge. peral , subjeet;. and wit!: rcspea to-the Billitself, such ruts. the of it .i being sent up fortheconsider., stion of their I,o(l..hips,' that any atteratiort . made; ;night operate, fitally respect to it ; and we Understood the Noble Martinis to say, that 'Pro: secutions tinder the existil law had been instituted by the Churchwardens, wider the diretttion of the iliihOps.---He thin took'ii view of the subjeki as it respected Ireland, and seamed to speak generally . in ;Vindication of the. Irish Preiates, and ;id vetted to .titne differences which prevailed in .the La*, for the 'regulation of thoic matters, in both parts oldie United Kingdom.. Tke DUKE of 4RAVE,•.ol)6er'veti, that fforn the Noble and Learned Laid, 4,ffice,i to convince him that the law of f-fenry VIII. 'oul;ht to be'rnati.,o;:ly coti4.l,..red, sr,e:rted.a,lsO that res peCtin g to 1)5 t.etiou , Ay att&(if.- , 1 to, by niters, amt, in tia,tt view, he . %vas pl,-asell to see' twit! tl:wr(oge r% l lll - Ikters pr . . sent. 0 r ,3 4r the 1)61;4 rea.l, ht. ing their tovishipi upon...tbei:Oniidc;:ttion 01 (o'r., .tatti Standir . lg fitv 'as the , iny to a pJ_rtietiktr };Ill tcten pending, Ti. , e . E4i):/ of K I 01: r ase, an d ge . ncra n y obi .served, upon tlti.; great itnpor(anee . of the pill in ci nefgtion, the I N:ivigatioli, which, he desetil) ( 1, was pot , merely a measure of local advantage o r .c onv-egicnee, but of grpt public utility . and con . •• 1 4 r . a tion,, Without .a rela-44tion.ot tic Standing questton, in 'the .ir--nt fts-nce the U () I:niti Lliv: this S l'i esbiott, 11 , r- 'OW ".461h. . • . iOn:, : “.l{2iiltl9ll, Wi;lc1) tvtired, that 1 be read ,twice the same.flity,&e. • . ..cb 40 !VC ,g LO R cf.! ,)f etit cpse i ,rated; t hat t h e ( to slisr,cgt.l the, o f the 1., this particular instance, and not Ile_ ~' ~'. ~. MOTE C;(pignnory CCIIINCtidtIOII LAICII T. gitts u en + pritteipalltbetween the Earl pr Ik4D:;'OR and - the L074.p C,HANcEt.r.,olt, relative to the effea of these Orders ; the :fount". Peer, seeming to concur in lhatwas . _ noposid, their Lordships, as we could collei, agreed to suspend the above,mentioned der, and also the 155th Standing Order, in coiise. quence of which ,the Billin question was read a'se. cond time, committed, and the keport.received. I The Order of the Day for the further considera„ tion of Crewe's Divorce Bill, being read, Mary Ilawkins, (Mrs.. Crewe's waitipg,woniart) was, (the ihird time), called to the Bar ! and exa. mined: at AIM length. The interrogatories were chiefly ptit by the Putts of ENO E, and from which it' appeared, that, particularly while the family'resided at Sloane- Terr.ace, Mr. Crewe never went out at night, until Miss CreWe, a yOung Lady about fifieen years of a4e, lead retired to bed ; that in general Mr. Crewe, wLth' the young -Lady, and, when from schooli the young Gentleman, attended' divine service ; and also a variety of other circumstances, tending to fest the paternal care of Mr. Crewe towards his childrerii and, in staie instances,,hi4 conjugal attep., tion to w ards Mrs.' Crewe. - The Witness was then ordered to withdraw, and the further consideration of the Bill was postponed. — ln "the course of the routine business ! their LOrd ships being in a Committee on a sill, bronght up from the 'Commons, fur the regulation of certain proceedings with respett,to'the Inclosttre of Lands, 4:c. the,,lNlse of BE,OPORD, addres,ed the Corn mitto :at some length, but made no Motion, ob serving, that he should reserve his proposed Amend ments, till the *third reading of the - Bill. Some Accounts frofn the 'Commissioners of the Wet DUO:sin the Ports of London, were presented by Mr. Tyrrell, the Remembrancer of the City .pf Londim ; and several Papers respetaing Appeals from Ireland, delivered by Mr. Williams, 4 SQL licitor. After which, their Lordships disposed of some private business, and adjourned till to-morrow. • 110,175 E OF COMMONS, MONDAY, JUNE 29. , • . • .4 • . • Hayes's Divorce. BilLwas read a second time, and ordered to be committed to.morkOw. Mr. V‘itisirrAit.r presenr:ed an account of Ten sions, SubSidies; &c. ,is moved far by Mr . . Rou SO N. . . , The qiiiIA'CELLOR , of the EXCIIEQUER molded • the' Order of the...Qay for resuming •• the debate lon 'the Finance Resolutions--Tir Order ' • N '... ' ' I ' , •• . • • having b' en read, • ' •• - ' . , The Cii ANC E Li,oi of the EXC4EcaI,IE a said, he had purpwiely - abstainedfrarn making any comments either upon the Resolutions of` the Hon. Gentleman . or .those which he. had himself proposed; until the Resolutions werein the possession of every Member; and now he- should feel it • necessary to trespass but a short time upOn - the indulgence of the House. He admittedi that the'Resolutions proposed' by the Hon. Gent. were accurate, unit is to say, that they, .contained no arithmetical imtecuraci. ~TheditTereitce, between the, Hon, Gentleman and him • then arose,' fram the different' view in 'which they tonsidered' ' the subjea ; for it was obvious that the same ma. terials, by being stated io a different way, might lead to very different conelusiotw. 'The principal objec. tion.which he had to the. Hon. Gentleulan'A Reso. solutions was, that they did. not go far enough— that they did - not enable • the • People .to take 4 jut. and Comprehensive view Of, the Finance's of the Country. . This inconvenience he had endeavoured to supply by ,the Resolutions which lie haal the ho. nour of submitting; The first Resolution related. to the Capital of the Funded. Debt, and w h ielthesta tea to amount to 4.00,7e9,8321.;and here he begged leak to make a comparison between use Funded Debt now and as it stood at the close of the American War :,- ' it ainounted then to Two hundrediand Thi4,eight% . Millioes ;-.-it was now Four Hundred MdliMi..— In the year r 785, there was no ,provision whatever , for reducing this large' debt ;. but in the year 1786,. the wisdom of Government and of Parliament led them , to / adopt a plan which had been invariably afted . upon ever since- r -he meant • that of the Sinking Fund. The SU ' in appropriated in 1786, for the dis chafe of the debt, was One Million,' that is to say, it was one 2,38 th part,of the debt. The Sinking, Fund,: now 40pli6lble,to the;, discharge of the .Na.; ,tiOnal , Pebt,. was about 5., 00,0001. or One.73d part of the whole debt 4 but he admitted, that unleSs there were otle:r, corroborating ' circumstances, he would '..hot rely 'loon this alone as a'prOofd our prosperity, , • • but • theat'were. other and .1110. st important . "circoin stances which would prove, that if, the burtheni of the Country were .great (and no man .was more sensible, !hat, they' were so than himself) yet that increased eve means of sustaining the;e burthens had eveß i fi 4 ,g t pap• •clezt:ce. The produce of the, Permanent.l.'axes in t 784; was. 11, t 32,0061. but the net produce of the'Taxei'in the year ending sth of jakaary, 1800, was 1 j,74.3,1 . 091. .4t must be obvious to every Gentleman, that. these being Taxes upon .COns‘:teptiOn, ' their ' increase % 'as pw . - ing to the increased prosperity and opu die* : of tlid Country. ' But this was not all, Ire, hegged. the Tiouse, to lake a . ctimptrative - view of . the, , imports and - ExPorts, of the number of tihips and' of men employ ed. .It appeared ''tliat . - the, official valtie of all Imports into, Great Britain, •in the year- ending the , sth of ...January i 7'84, was! . r. 3, ;22, 23 5 . 1. ; that the Official value of all imports! intp GreaCillitain, in the year coding the sth . oft January I hat (supposing the Imports front the East Indic , „ of which nn AcCount has - :s .it been Made up . to be the 'same ;Is 'in the preeedine year), Was, 29,92'4,8581. The official "value of' licitish Mann. .fartures exported from Great Britain,' in the year ending the seti jelintar7 1784, waS 10 1 409,7131, and on an. average of six years, ending the sth January 178.1., •was 8,616,6601. ; that the official value of British Manufizettires exported from . Great Bri., tain, in the year ending. sth January 1793, waS 18,33(.,85 Ile , and on tin ayerage Of six years„ - end4 log the sthjanuary 1793, w•ts 14,771,0491. ; that the officiah value of British Manufactures exported from Great 'Britain in The year f,l:ntling sth Jantiary 180:i., was, , 21,4 i 1,071. -- rnaking „an increase, ai compared . with' I 784, of i +,001,3541. and w . i t ill 1792,, • Of 6,b7+,2 (61. ; and on an ':tVere , ge of six yeitrs, ending the sth Junoary 1 Sous as i0j055,1991, aS VUITIpa Rl ',Sill ..AY da. • making an tnCreaSC to 5th - January 1784,_0f I k i e . ..08,5391. all ' d Ilith. the average to sch Janltry 1703, of 5,314, t 5 0 1. i and that the real value tif British ManufaCtures export.. eiti in the year, : tBtao, may he estimated at- about .39,50050001. With respect to foreign Merehan dize, it appears from Papers laid before the House, that tie total aniopnt of foreign MerehaadiXe ex ported from Great Britain, in the *year - indlng the. sth January 1784, was 4,332,9091. and on an average,„of 51% years, eodiog the sth 'empty. ;7 : 4.,. was 4,263,9301. ; and that the total v alue * " of it year Merchandize exported from oa - eat Britain, in• ?Tie year ending the sth Januari ilk . ; t, was 17,166,14,54 And the Papers before the, HOOSei,Asa slimed ; 1134 t -the number of registered Vsaiels belonging to the British Dominions. a aid employed in Trade io the year 1788, being the first.,year in which the . Ite. gisier Mt hadtaken fell'effeet, vas 13,817 ; their tonnage 1,363,4.88, and the numb er - of Seamen nail-, gating . the same 107,915 ; and in the year !Soo, the number Or VesseN was i B,s' 7, their tonnage 1,905,4.38, and the number of men 143,661. He had serried these eircurnstaoces to thew that if the burthens of the'People were great, al they rodoullt ' edly were, that the resources and opulence of the. Country - had increased even in a greater degree. The H4ll. Gentleman had mentioned; what certainly could not be denied, that the sum• necessary for the service of the, present year was near 69;cco,000l. but then it was to be recolkaed, that the whole of ' till's vast sum was not this year taken 'out of the poeirets or the People., 'because 29;ctooppool. was raised by way of Loan. With respea to the future Peace Establishment, there was a difference betiveen the Hon; Oentleman•and him ; the Hon i Gentleman estimated it at 28,90°,0001, whcreai, he. had salmi ' late& it at 28,200,00ia1 t but it appeared that the Taxes would proddce very near 28,800,0001-which ' was within 100,0001. of the Hon. Gentleman's Es. timate of the Peace Establishment, and exceeded his" . '(Mr.. ADDINGTON'S) ' Estimate of it :by-linear 600;000l. He was not aware that it Was. neeessaty for him to trespass upon .the:attention; of the. House any longer, except to -make a tent observemns upon the T ax ' on Income, , which he estimated at 5,800,0001. but added to thti Tax on Tonna ge, which subsidiary to the Income Tgx, it would pro. duce about Seven Millions.' He never could reflea upon this Tax without being deeply impresser' with the essential service which it had been of to the PUblic.• He begged the House to. 'consider what would have been the aiTtOAnt ! of the Vx•es if th , old plan of borrowing had been-adopted, s u pposing that they could have continued borrowing, - e , x - f cept upon ruinous terms. But admitting, • for 'ffl'b s*e of argument, that the Loans Could be ruadu at +5, the Taxis . to pay the intere4,9l: . 4*wouldleount • at present to - very near as inuc.fras thi:liiitallli.riti. The debt,' to the discharge of -which the=lliconie Tax was applicable,' was 66,060,0001. and,.if:',:tile Income Tax was continued jbr.. ten years, 'that iiim would .be paid off, Where:44f it-had been borrowed in the common manner, with . 'a . sinking 141174 . 01 1 per Cent, it would take forty ytars to patiusaff, so that the difference between tli'e . : - rwet . 'inciilei,*as as 1 - to 4,.becauSe by the..appliCation of the Sifficing i Fund, the debt . would ,bediaclia.e . k,ivil in ten . 3• eals instead - of forty. It liad•been; oltifted:that coro-1 mercial perons did not ply their fu ll roportioti to i l this "fax 3 he would .-not.-41404-411iit. point- at pre sent, b r ut he, was sure ..tilittfatik- Coonvy•would be oi - t 01,1iro any, i . ,erson who''iot.ild aeVlse :4. mode, • consistent with ti.-,:. ne..-s4ti'sec'recy . which it Was proper to obserie .....ith, retlyti • to, - cearmetailiPens to camel them ti . ) -.::y their fairpitoptittion.- t any such plan could be devised, theperion sstlitisu i.gtst ed it would be entitled tektite:gratitude of ifirCouri.. try. But.he wished to ask - whether, ary plan had ever hien, 'Or could 'be suggested, by which cotmer-' -vial men-could .. be--made... to contrilatite ~so._ largely as by this mode ? When he considered that when this plan was adopted the. 3 per Cents. Were. it +7, and that , now ,they were above .66 r . 'whenille co n . sidered th6;:gieat facilities they affOrdedite.Linltedi Interest *with a view to mortgages,: he could.;.riotl but consider it as a measure` that .had been pro-' duelive. of the most beneficial•consecloences to the . Country. In looking into this subject;' be found much ground tOr consolation and acme for despond ence.; he was convinced of the .netessity of the most rigideconomy, but in the present .situation, of the Country, all that was: wanting beside, was steadiness and fortitude to enable it to assert its honour arid`to- maintain its security. ' He- was con. vineed that the financial 'means of the Country (in- . dependent, of-its other resources) would enable. it to maintain that rank, which, happily for the interest 'of mankind, it maintained .among the nations of , Europe.-410• should now conclude : he believed,. that the better •way to proceed. , would be to move, for . the Previous Question - upon the Hon: Gentle.. man's Resolutions, :indthen•topropose his own. Afr. TIERNEY said, he- would endeavour to follow the 'Hon. GentlemanTvery shortly through the different - observations . ,he ._ had Made; It was true, that'the two Sots of Resolutions were *Ought' forward with different views ;: hit oli,je& 'Was to slieW how much of the Capital .414 Country was! lOcked'up in the shape' of `Ptiblie'beht.' The 'Rt.. lion.Xaeutleman had_ endea v Omit .„10., prok,_ t ha t though the Debt was :Jargeuyerthat there was a' lare•Sit . ltii i ig Fund •,•applieable to '.its litridation,, which amounted to, one 73d part of '-the whole, Debt ;. : but 'in Isis calculation he had omitted- the; - Seven Millions due from the .Ettaper.or, :and the: Nineteen , • Millions due from -. Ireland ; it they were taken into Consie i erati t io, thj !,inking Fund would :be found . to be - only a . 76th part of the National" Debt. As tri- the 'Right Honourable' Gentleman's ,- - comparison of ...,the_ difference be tween - the situa,ttoo of the country no w , a nd in. 1786, it prove 4 too niuc4beeauke it would prove that we were now in a situation three Ones as good as we were In 17 $ f, which watta' ptoposirion which With raped:to the Unfunded D e b t , he believed very ' few perseni Void& aecetle ,fo..— tliCre, was only a small difference of abont rsoioool. voted in Ex. cheoder Bills last ti; ast.Sessio As to the net Fiticittpe . - 4' therermanent Taxi's, he -admitted that . 'they ht - been dirnim'sbe4 ' by 't `temporary , Cause, via. theunfavourableness of' t h e , seascin i . but besldes. this, there was a ae6Ciency of efoo s oool. which could not be attributed to . that t.2DCe. - The Right. Honourable Gentleman had sre k en *Tula of the ---s, crease of the Imports and Expo - its ; he . ha, nut one short observation to make •in reply, which Wal l that the burthen which bad peen incurred was: permanent, whereas, our means of .sustaining it were temporary, and dcpeoded upOn accidental circumstances, Much of that Trade, about which so much had been said, would :•anish on the t'etorr-Of-fetee; it was-olivions,-- that much of our present commercial prosperity Arosefrnm the War, and it was impossible to expect that our 'lnit.: would - continue tu the same extent, when Europe was restored to. tranquillity-4 svlienTrance, iu emu jOrt4ion `with.:l - 10ftand, resumed - that C.:;mmerce was nqw destioyed, Right Honourable Gentleman, had, upon a 'former occasion stated the great" =increase: of ourt Track, • .whia -had arisen from. the capture of . the Enemy's Colo , [lies; Most of , that trade must of 'courie be lost a a Peace, because ,it was impossit'mle . that we cool 4 retain all our Colonial acquisitions at the on' elusion of the -War. In estimating the ptob4l4 amount of thc,Aev.enue, the lionotirable Gentleman should have 'taken into consideration The Bolllltiti upon Corn, arid snore especially upon-lkirej . whieh would make a deficiency in his Eatltnutton of I;300,000,As,to the Peace 4stßblishmeelt, it was evident that it could not be sO small is the former, because hcadmitted it would be necessary taker') up a' large force supposing then that-instead a B,ooci Stamen we should ethploy 0,00, WoUld . make a difference of near' one-rniflion.it Yest — n te R be i n g e h fi t . t l s lC ;e l s t ul Ge tin n g tl f e rl an the had lanrcgomuede.Vacsilht t° hi upon thes th4t which formed the greatest recoMmend !"l°n of that To. .Was its greatest misehief, the facility whie.ll it afforded to Ministers Of continuing the War. The Right Hon. Gentl eman had attrlbli44: the ;14C the Funds to the Income Tax, but he seemed to fi.U . get the Sale which undoubtedly contributed much more to that effed. •He 'certainly- was one of those who thought that Commercial ;ksZen did not. contribute ssifficiently to that Tax ; at the same time he could out 'suggest any, remedy; nor did he think it was paoi: ble to sfiggest one, without ertinining thee o f 1V10.444,1e Mtn, „which undoubtedly could neve = r be done in a Commercial Country.. Be ctincl6a with saying, that he- agreed with the Crsocet.t. L" 'Of the .E.iciliQuErt• 111 illiclking that there was no grounalor.tiespondencn but, at the sau' e ` i ffi c* , he Waa,,of 'Opinion that some great and deetsty' nanCidl operation Was 'necessary to rescue the Lau' try from' its present diffitulues ; ; t nti he would chearfully submit to any temporary venience. which might he necessary toaccoWlish' itea‘ 4l meat an obj He—tun...l2lo fcsi i s - first • id 1. tion: . . , Mr. ADD IWOTON assured the. Honi-Gentleint did the 'House, that he cnuld no t regard. the state sof the Finances of the Country ',without solieitowf though ti lie certainly saw no ground for deseOntle.OP" e trusted, that the resok of the present investigaq' c rion would be,satisfailory to the House snd ill heountty ; at the same time, he Must declare,' thaC had cxpressed-no sentiment , of . the sort that hol heenlntPutedlo.him, by the Hon. Gentian:lN Yle „Hon.', G on d em * 1 . 4 d .. itiverte j t o• th e lout 0; Oate, l withontieColleding the circumstance which millions -A With respect toi the outgoings; it was at Pr ese f funded 'Debt he had state°de:actitluldistedwCinf;:t: the 'sti:. .impossible to ascertain tree payment of Bountleitr shouldll ~.tiao:(d:do,..:ol ao b iyiun.e dtt whichl. i . mtrii i 1 •1 6. p . y . i iihyaia i dat no ' Lib , 1:::: referred r r f ce twi iin paints is s p e t o e c W h l . 1 i C I t h e ez ' though 'he 'could not but think the Hon. Dula : man badovcr:rated the inconvenient:its re3l3,i"?. therefrom:' .'• With regard to the whole of the rwls Gentleman's argument, founded on the Was ti :,,7, t h e produce of the Customs would nor be r t h h e e a t ; it : after' Pace; he must say, that was wily,at el e 'w a matter of conictiure and supposition, ank k t cording to his own apprehension, he though tart an foundea ; for, looking at the state of erld., Syhich, he trusted, would ere loag indicate A ti r . sition to cultivate the blessings of Peace, this 11 ' pOsition, he considered, Its fa vOurahle To. Q0510141° dal intercdutitl,nor did he suppose the inercuing trade lindgrandeur of one Nation, would hc 1 .. „"/ - difninutio to . the growing fropperirr of Anth er ' 3, The w9rld was large enough for every tradeleo merchant, and .he thought the - state °I O e for Fthe:CceomwmtielrterSodif this s b c e o fa u v n o tr irr y. a ; blt. than othi rv444. t he ' was not called •to pronouncbeitatt,y"paonsittiliteis lelnei: sion. With roped to other.artictes of rkev eilu 6 ,; he •saw' no reason to warrant the dist.•o. o PL isi t il h a r 'e: prehension o f . a diminution of Revynde. v'' . i he sped to. what had been stared resPettill Ir eiint t he must observe, .that it was imposSible to zif!'",,,,d Ireland i e ! ( t n ' i n d ll i betwixt, Itt:hree.bewenodurodifdbeth . G : i re i h a e t i:t i r t l e ' i _ °:- e year, - - s i ThirtY- P th r ascertain-' • nine Millions had been the estim ate of the Pl'alri: tion to be raised by this Country, 3(4til Mil ill a ljOill Lion this, there was the sum of Two proposed to lie raised by a Vote of Credit. ” Mite ~,. Mr . CORRY' confirmed the 'CH Ati C E I."' —l3 I. ~ H EQua a S . statement, that xc ' ~ Great Br itain,:was .estimated at ThirtY• ll .i ne , i 0 • lions. As to the .Ways and .Means, crealt ` l -`, , 0 be taken for' Great Britain to the anoint of k bat IVilli6nt.; Mr, cokay. proceeded, to rein*rktpttio, thellon.. Gentleman had neglected i'l hi s' i'—rc‘t.. tions, to take into his 'account the I.l7tho'victi able upon Ireland ; and he thOoght, if the;stMe.l its of his Right Hop. Friend • was bility, it' Wa r . % l6 n tleo SO' :11:irge murii, being over.candid to the ideas of the Ron. '''peo man. He obserVed; that the Propartion ? of. d o Millions was already covered . by the o pt 3 ) s ' to , Means of Ireland,. and alcoisrst was not t04 4 .,1 o r videdfor by • Great Britain, by Eitch4le" l . 4 ita any other mode. . . .... Mr. A nniNatos, Mr: TIERNIT, 3 4 . . ' tr Cott ar, severally explained. . - Ceti , Mr. /17.Y.D1140Obserytd, that the 41°`',' d ir. titimari in hiS Speech respedint the }lnsult:o 'T, A. troduccti political matter, alb had particlOr Y. ic i luded to certain Concessions whichmusit he.e % P c ,` ht :to be'rnade to the Enemy in the event of I.Oc' ; 0 4 had round similar ideas inclustrioutily PrOil e ill elsewhere, but he could by nom eans activio....ols the propriety of them. 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