The Sun. — London, England, 1801-04-15 00:00:00

.- , - , _ -.l' Ugir ,WRO, .t,nottgrr rney apick . censured and 4 i4l)l.liotteci!itip sygcm clf, - iwertial poi licy whielr'has .. been'pliiilied, • hilfd* tit' defendedi Jacohinisni i ,,if by thaFfernl : is meant the cruelties' and horrors**ltich:beli - E bi..thi - eilit a iitq in a neigh,: boring , Cnontr3% . -.l3eit' tippri..thi,•sitl)i,e,q, it is npty; z. -- -.. vr.necessary to enter:at-44;e, as ii is rißt tliat im-1 iottrdiately befoxe: the- trust. . t. : llc - did,...itWever,', thank 'God, that ht hat); iiii:at:' g"ilicie any-,404e ...t•llichl . ~. could tend. to.pteveot-t•Tegotiation* or to:prolong ai Viar,' IttelOintiiitint'iliritltih'id•'•the leturee;of all!' • 'the ei•ili;attige4hin :this':Contityr -is ..it', • - thc'Prestnt:l4.q. '-. Widi' r'P' . 4 .*() .lao . siisois , ::}ioi'ic): ne,stctei4,4tersor.Ally it rraigned•-by the . . - kfcni7 and, Le.iitreaf• Geritleman, ,for ha vi pg . pftiOis.teji •:":PeLrl la. ' mentaty - ReA . rin, a, t il ,tikhp 4kitij:.9:-11Vk: %:Y4 s, theZ.i)ro= ,„' fessecLohjeii of the Jacobins, and the,i;overt fot'ibeir•• Secret mid Treaseinable-deSigns. !lic , acknoWleriged , that he.hiid; at different timesOnade Motions in the douse :for a Reform in ratliaMent, anti Ile • had done ithecauselee , thought this measure foundtcl on tree whdinn- and polic.y; and he had suppOrted leiSAlO,. 1ipn3 . 1. , y arguments drawn, not from right,,hui from policy. •Ilecontineed still of the same opiiii'on - :ii to • the eqyzttiency•ofthis . rneasurF. Bur tltetioti. Gen, :t)emaa.becits better pleased with, the system of mea.: ;ores 'Whieh:lfi've been purs:Upd," Which, inste:td'tif giving new .seeinities to the-LjbertiCs Of el:::: Coup try, .haxe.abridged them ; which,•,.insteael of• being tonciliatirig 'have been coercive. ' Rdtwithstandinlik ilowiwer, tbn c on ,fide ace o f A t.t...:ii4 . ,-*. ~7 ..'...q4.40.41:f fi r,i ; altar those measures- bave beeii sailefiond..by Ofe;c t io., ) piiobit ion of the 14 i',li; SOAIId the Ccitinery - 711C "del& • 1/OW ask any expitry-,o6ltleman, after ha,,l/ing sa crificed so much of. hi:property:fOr.the carrying on vflle War; after relielting' . oo the imMeilse, burdens to •wisielz,it has been the . -meatis, of subjeaing -them ; after •artfriding to the ,inelanth . olY ' sitnartop into - which theCOtitrtry find tlaw fallen 1; pfter Cpnsi&r frig the i n f r i ngel pentS_ of., : the con,s.titution which have taken place, if. he is re:sl• co`liiy .th a r,the s y b., tern of ineals.t4rs ‘‘ Inch has - )4l4eirshed, hits W . eu ivist_i or sit:lo4ly ? The .Hol!.Gentleirean f.; ',pro posed gornetflid , .''of , aaVin.th&cothltif tition, a radi cal remedy fot'the:dv,ils-whi.ch ibreikt4n it: ' He be . Lieved it- to rt,odielitindeed, lz)r ha was, ready to . • s2l.s•;,titatAAVits•prttiO, , ing po.thi,nilesi than•toi)ll.4 • : ft , u p:_b'ylt . .- ;10til.: :"I..hc•qws4oo- 4 44,)re thellothe 4 , 445 , er* . .. : litilibTiYea to:bc:, ' 4fne whethar any. .:fVigriliblife e. 1 16 1 b*, 1 6 iited''a the ,MiitiStrat,o,4;# . 00f.. 1 .41a:14ii* allfiw- but' iibeihO, extrordlnary pckik:ers*, .uiiknown: .to . tilt . : 'Law,- . Ihoti'sci . .l)e . vested. •jp : Qevernment; - withoht ':any ... e:4cl ;fiee . of :die .• . . 4.. .. *ity ' , ..4)1. *Wog, thiit . Aving. pro • heed The pagzill Report . of the-difilliiiiivertil tse.- - .r:'!() , sf:i I eii Iltat;hri ".• alarming' • Coniill*i ( ekist 's ' irilhbc,, , . , — , ,- , •• . . .4 4 . • . ...1 . , 1.. ' . Cr,• ;' bur no. Prect tnlrs - ,o l OTcnfc,p g,lnto, rx- cept ; •a reference to 'the '4.ggpc tof the: Seedei. (.'. 911, 4 .. nnfleo , in 1719. ;;l - .4i,*1,10,p`r, , thiii - Aliiet, he thaati I.tfibtikisi it somolo - i,teattitpc.baicii . :.toi the' 1 is .ior.o.;o.the two , last*ear.r. ..01n t7i)9f . about‘zo i •or_ • It ) I*.''inci‘,.,.ri.).7':zil; 10!I'Xi4':4 1 .e4t,gti, 4 44 ,1 jif tlielOc est , . c‘4l.l'kl 4340*?cirty iv4,tfilpiApto .c 4 I i toil y , 4.)11 2 51 . 35.. • picioiv.or f.reasolohkr.o . ll . ,, dr,.i . diey:Ni,ri. corgi v.. 1, for',.4eal' thret '041 1 4;.)1.040:t1iv,44 1: , ,, tL, si„pen.. •iioniftf.i4elkUbrPttS'i, !At:•tis...vt rime the Re. er - .4 to ld i e:stetet•COilitin;:tee . Statcd that an' uhtfin.. ...., ing Cods•pir4'y ele,f,4teti;i:zet"ortly thew e ;Q.. tibshre . inciiv id U:ii 9,..-iftcre ,t 4 g90... 4 1.m. 9 04 9 4 ) ,-1,,..-p,,,,k in 111 c ‘ i i iin - n h o f , ja9oary,.l4t 1 giy.,..w.qt4)1 let, ;4441:petty,' on flie.x.iiis...'intb tilseOgni•mkifer,;.l ILitliPear.iinee, • • w i t tiA l i,,•,,ioly oneeiaf AlioNtljlaying., . s't 'rou t; to, trial.is . • a *Tic!): l 4l 'if onrloo4lo4* cqt . pAT4ey. MO PX,' br ? l itet f . at t hat litile . y,lerNOP:Sn..tfga cr;CPLAbqq4e / PCC, than those tr.ken pet0,04b4) , : -: ( inust i have;:becinAta. volv and QtiVerntit'ont,:must t have been ab le, t 6i ill i tif •toco . evidence stif4cient : to ; btity4 then to : trim. • ttter4l4o th4PPOrti.liFtt.clKattiltlecii 411 .Since ,,.. •,•....... ~.•—•••, -.. -:-.. ' •, - ' 1 tE6:.i'videtice that' islitven,4le e istence of any 4,11. v.: S. •• • COniriracy.j . :Ada .45tIdittg.70 lief cttcumstaiu 'which ,he ...had jutr2,..:.trAtai ;the . cim14 . ..4.1: 1 9t • . help tedtt.g*ralitOti - iii beForip !army .41aVin ing Cpnspi.faey.ei.siA : .. o. 4iii.o*o t. ; i . f.t4'citi* oitt , .:c-,',11,p,,,.?11. - &;triOectessif :.it .e.i . iioenCe-.oefore '.. .;i l ,ern,a, •Wilrili .. d - 'oiy „not. yth:riiil tileir appt4i l , l 4 l4t that -eiclOici A . 44 . ,t••11c , lion'.o.olf-iiitir . 4l.4 Hai , . . 1 . -•-•• f- - 0 , -- • Pr e t.' l `.!. t9''', l ,,Y'''ar . :e . .vf.n.to..:ilsinViltk!;., Pad litrWas ippy . .ltO , RealdtsE . iinicoll:eigireos)y cl.is rbyteed" by the, .„Rig h t2 l 4 . •eilv . ,.iir tia l 4:_igli....rtiiYir 4 1„.444,9,f. i the - zxcifElpitity; 't at , ,th4ta, is. aili•nr.e , ne:rat 4t(alon:. ' _ .,. .b *. xi Or:4littelkOrrilitalliftipr4 *i . ncing iltee-Piclpit of'ngland, 'indeed, .hp.:Would venture to say, tN t et*'AAtia 4 _*'iiKgl,'t..:tg.e . tnuiiitlt;,iaiiicirrf,lioi firm. tress - and, fortitude, uncir the . resstsre . l)lso ... s . evere, ellSeulties - miiiiifesie4liany - peofile, at any p erio d Of 6112 .,Pi11f then it i only. a :who arraisaffeaed, . if the groat ,masS*:Of :the People Arc Idyiii,, fr -and it . ':.: 'ached to the 'Colistiiiition, is not . ..tbe ,Law, .. as it stands;peffetily . ‘adeqUate. fo.ricpteisint'aiid punish.. . ing those few ; an low can the clatfget.l*-1 A great as to render it nece s s a ry, toff cipprivefth,fitat, body of the'-Peo ple cf4he privileges whi•ch they enjoy tinder the Constitution, .41 - ;c1•• wilielf... - rtriders -them Attached:to-it ? TliS is tilt very means to increase the.Thitilbwof.the , discon tented, and to:produce. - that . 'di 6 drailo'n, yAkli.the.•meaurei. proposeil are in_. ..,,;j . e , d- tO. prcver4:' , 44:l .4, deck. ‘ 1 here is no maxim . in -p o litics More tine, tlia'n 2 that anger. tb the'Constitution, is the caue of discontehtsi and not .discon teri ts - ..attipteg the- Peope, thee4lit'of d an _ ger to theovtriVnerit. It ‘is the :hardships to wilidf ille peip7e: are 'ind 'halo . ;haerl solajW6d,,.t.llat p r od44.4 n y,,ikecrittent4 . Whioh may •.e.)tist-antOng'its• It finot iheir, dip:Gwen ta,•whielvlmvttrqdvied aiiy danger to . which 'eft cfin4t4;icntAi 4,444(4, 1 449 1-i, • li - ot n" iklii_ . 114:144ititt , tlie . .lfasci.:to . th 6 calendars 'of :the lafe4iiMi,"its . i''AiiT.. , ,m4 i f t iee.o( #*.. Vast Itkiltliiirl 01 .. Pbb.- . 0 4if -7 .'-ii.o - 4 . •!-ifiiV4tlietilicli . , , e• crams which paapio•-balc ,, titt niliriVetmout•by the diffikitl,r ies. midi rtVbicti they )4oeir . ..i.:and-trikciie LliriciiitPif - ha'*4':pto!_tt3te4 M'y it c,rii - rie,.: . ii . ...heltl all a4oniiiiioll43-001ituaai'c5,iiis:i114063-44:ttitii0 , . commir::.' . ' •mt 3 s4To',... , .7E 111)4ittie. Oe•eltig*ti this drii!: tf I 0 , kliibh,..ii paliii-..i0 4t ,?...:•',4 1 11 e'" - tet i cTf).V . sl„4l,eliimi•43ek•aon ; 40•11tutteut,, 1 . 135. ,VAJ Bs7 Di in4riihiceell:frthtr_tht..T4fii)ii*Er ... *kilerfe'' . l ifittitetit!le 444.44-001,114-Zd`cii4l;:=l*.kiiiii.,sll-(1,. ea-- Ow, tir a mi l mt -4nef , foilit wie iv ith.whiCii4li e y' taore•,. them, took -scarcely - atirtidtiee;:'atett!etaigetla tif'• anY - cli.iircttioii . . - 'foie Habeas corlins - grispiiisiool 1 2%4 . 450 ,was•loiTet at,. ttrAmpitrrif9,likti!...o:o47 2 liii t have beerri4 ease "if c ,, ,ieliiiiiient,l 4 l . h a d .aa ykoaso . '6 ~.., .. to sussf6a . ti ergft teiic v eciraii3;'araiiiiikg iligeoskeil ft. —lle wished the evicisaaC444l4.lo:l444'4.lW-, COOttliikee -Ida fOUStlid, tilc,4 . Repo - rt 4(1 bieii: stated. Belt at ni 111! II! T ~1 all ..erent, olu!d ile .noPpptote 0f... the rapidity . ... with which t his mcasue :was proposed - . to' 1:4 ,carrieti:k tliatigh the. - VA:Le, .He . wished. tliati time should be t;'i %lin- to inquire into rho cir...! cumstances 'which .rcodei this 'measure necessary.l ~-, As. ,to : .the..ttlatlnec .; -4 --appointing the Coin., Enlace, he could riot - :aiiee with the. Right.Hon.', Gentleman, that .chlising_Jhem by a Bailin " WAS ' a'y : ?referable mo4e.to nominiting them. :Lk could - noti think with *hfni, -that' II nyGentieman Would hkee,felti any di cu tytn nominating- twenty-one.persoris fit ! t 0 Forntosg, tie coinmittcc. 7 But the - fight o' '.,Gentleinan jut Prized him still more, , labendielkitid,t that chu:siog them .by, Ballot vas the fide& rthitlio4.l qt 4Pegfefti)'' wdi known, avidOlvilol'aite-ClOuuld! , hot be lola that he was spe."akio4, oriparliampotary '. tailgti4ge; .when' he Men tibned, - that--kvlitti4C-dni mit tees ar e c.liiiler). - b ril lit, lists arc handed aboat among the Members ofilie Noose from the Treasury; . 'and it is-also "well-known, that t'lists 'comint 'front 'Olt quar ter. carfy, a , considerable; inquence,- along 4ith Om. Surely be would not be told that the ele4ionwoulitniit - have Been-inore- free, it there had : r itcgot uct.sßcki liqs.; - and .if eit ex v Gent leptya ' bad !Met! left'oPenly . ,io.fiorninatti those whomhe wished to be I. - Members of tbie ttomniiittec;:hk*:tiericired: that- it iro..yiclih l ivelse f lit very good one.. As to thrp be 'At ho Gentleinen 'from this side of the'Houst in the i -,Cortimittee, le. - :conld not hap !thinking that tte ' coup try would-.have - it's tritons 1 not .b en so wholly co mposed of 'Coup 'f" it ' had' ' ". • „ .oentlernen, whose opinions W ere so '%4T , 11 - klits - Kii tO . : be faioorahle to measures of th4l4o.lth,thatmow: proposed. He could by 'lid ineateconfif - tokaSSitig this _t with such has - te,a , littste'whichiie ban- ceivcd .to be wholly unprecedented. lie Shotlld ilierefOi-eiOre against the' Motiim. - .. ! .. C 4 -107441 ilaßTlNTligiressed liiinself- as. -rt warm friend to the Bill, upon a firm convidion,pf its ab. solute necessity for 'the safety of His, Ma'jisry 's 'Do minirotis,- especially khat'part of the Unire&King_ . -dom,c . plled iretantl. Fic observed, that either .07s BiltViis - negis`sitY;' or it 'Wag not ileC'elsry i upon tharisiestiottrhcre %mill& hardly , be said . to- beiia. real `diirerence of opinion,., since Gentlemen qr . *, .h e other side . scertitkl_ only to contend, . there, 'fid, pot bvir suffi6ent evitithCeOr tthc, ueces4ti' t alld *o 4 i it seas fit sO:ne . ti m e should lie tak2n to inq uire into filets:- .low he 1 , :.;1 LI opinion that if the Bill was necessary and tit to 1 -. )e past at an, it was proper,it should pass witheut del a y ; and lie was cif opinion that 'delay'Avould be very dangerous,*for that while Parlianient - Were- delibera ring, ilic 'County). might be..lost i and he was .clearly. convinced that much of 3 "fhe efkaey 'of. this measure' depended on the • ptotriotness 4 with which it was put: in force.. He then enteriained the kionse.,. witli m a ludicrous s t ory caKcetrnitie a crafi . :.,'*'reek•, 'who being cOtidemned. by his Prinee,to . die for . his treasonaple.raktces,. saved - his life, or ra . tiler got a rtspite, .for three y'ttrs, upon an undettakijig to teacii.ivAkti qta,•t • t. perio4 the Greelclinignage to a clod; - by Which he rook the chance for thrEE ye4r.s. of all accidents ..;" o saveli'is-lire,'either That thePtitleeinien'die in tluir.- tiMe, hy which the delintinent expo red his lite :to be-'spared; *oi.--rhat -the thig mikht - diein three years, ' b”chich the , delinquent expected to save both his ilifelaM his - re' mei n & *4 • ' - , pa o , c. c. ....'. - • , i - , • Mr. ' S 11E RID 41,N haviok played for :some:time:" . , upon ihee*ludiexou's' story " Which had been , related by biS'EtN'Cotintriiikan, „glen p,roce 00 . ..to,obserV.," thsl;*,**ftis 'aliP reli3ii ion - ' the , question hid not , been. fully tak . .eo by' t'he Hou. Members ,who . had spoken , in ;the .course - of this deviate..' It was admitted light' every . one wbo'llad spoken, that this was not a light; matter--So far' fiom'thinkig. it .i light question-': was he, ' that it did.nppearro be nothing less than a- 1 , proposal Ito sacrifice the. most MA terialg the 7rety *I! ies*senee t , .the Vitill'isitaih,, as : * were, of our Con ti iii tionlie qu e. t ion was:this, had -the Hou se•be. ' irfoiit'roof'Sufilcient'of the%oecessity of the measure, :! ito iguify so.great a sa.criAce orthe Public Freedom ?-.! t ftht.Scas the quekion- In his . opinion.thete was ;no such, p . tiziof,. nor any tilipi_iitat bore any mem. ;blanee of stiFtißroof. Il e . i ns i ste d, that -without' "siich'prOof Aii . .sttelt 'measure ehoald be entertained ' -for a moment, _ He contended, Alp: all piirsomption'i ,Was not 'oi . ity . against the " ne - cesit i y2;6i; such It inda.:. sure,. 'but against tbe.prutlepce !ofoolling - the. 4ltehl.' ,tiott Of - giet tibiic,,to it, for thar l it would only . tQve -tliP"effeit of ' reviving what it was the' interest of * , r Olaveinment ~to be folgotten in the, p ubl icp mjnd; iithay, how ' much the . Public had* been' alreltdy ihe dupes of imaginary, Plots and ideal _ Confe deracies, On the stretigih" of which " they had. lost so wily,..of their . real -.Privileges. 'He altered ' from - the GitAtic-ELLOR "of the. ExcitiQuEt as to the mock' by 'which' the Secret Committee had been f(pPointec?'4 . he did not think a Ballot. the best mode, and he "eiyressed his .persuasion that' the Public . would have thought less in of the measure, if some crehtteinen, *ilorri, what was called the Opposition tide of the I--use,,, had bee ! , put Upon chit Comthit ee: , He itiletted .that these B a ll ots o f Cthiunittees 1. * - kk und e r:, insinkenlent ivhicb enabled the Mini . iter to. pan* .whom fie pleased'i'd be the MeMbers rultheinitintained tlar the'siv A lthe "C - ec o H A 149 E 1.- Oillif the Eki:c it 10kc it was indeed a manly avowal of-the Itifluitiee of wl lett lies'oke, and whial; tvi j r. bsll Pit't nA ic 'eOntended oug ht not to he possessed by 0 an)' peiihh lifiate . *er, 'because it - was.doing* aiA -. a) at-orteall- idea . 6144. endence in th e fititse upon • ' - the:subia of Ballot's It I i:COmrnittees.--As an - in- Stance. of this sort oi Ministerial , Influe nce , he ow:iced a ease, i n w hi c l he, said he had read to - the Hottie • from a copy . of qliciVlinister',s List,. which happened to •fall we° ! . .lis hands, the' names of the ‘ , 'lpmberl. or.a Secrier.COMmittee . pree isely as 7 lerlivrit'recOifoa . s i /Ike ri' . out 'Of rile.- 'lall'istting. hisii;'.- ~ T his; ',be - contended, was ' prtiOf Of - . 44 -Itretki ''`.tielleft -on ' a ccotint 'of. - Itilluence,, t'a tOicll, Oit'4.tfeinrof-Peallots of Coitunittees ',%t . etc :.4,01 i ., candid •' 'el k Ad. ne. sAid,"rt .. was ' in the cii.dN , 4o . it . ...t. 'flit Mee }t e , Otii. I :to copfess kA but . itAas to •it a rdrabtetfirri to hea . r;'tiliti 'ilie,'in=e4aent Ad mini ler -.: rition.. : We''re...deteltAia4 . lo, iii: l 4' ll .:' Condo.'E.- (..t . ' , heir ' "•Preltiece'ssors . ti modenot tteiri,;. for ha au,“;:ved otil I .such . a ' contie; nothing ' lint the ruin.ift •'. this ..eciontit.:' -1-1 illonglii %Vitco this, subje6t . walqii I it eti '2lf\A'Atfcirmer : niglit; . oere .:s‘ras,,. gum cool, es b e _ . tkv i eeti° the prCiccit ;Minis ters acd their '.PredeeeS„:o-6„ ie but - no , tlVeir tinitin iipppreai,tciibe 4. 11q Purdial, .4 ,- . thOngfir it . trire:wiiitasteat ,that .deeent t 46 . 1 t they: :: :Shbuld hest4 on cacti (Act Such interchangeage-pa, ' • ri :, • i e • ~ tit4syrics Sort-of isecTrOct . ty ; . frotrt 1 . 1 (,11 ito lartiSpitt _aell'atilige - to- the for . iftttialifedge si Mihisli . iild'AiVt.tre a"s'j'stein in his.opi < rtiwiy leitAiredly'l6 tli6 . tain tats this:coitri. try: •Ne-...t00k it;vieW of what was said lik,:the I.lc:trolt- - dit4iiicv . -N'atideOntentled,'that the speech •-of.'ehat L irtie i Geritic #air li d'.ccmveyed inStnoa. ' f.. r • • t ORS, thatg.e:h6 hads'noners-fot he:hitt-no proof, •as, if ',some. - leathers, of that - Hpyse....l2ad" their speeches, eneotiiagedTtlit sefftitts - offbeobins in this Country, by-alledgint;'s.ihat the .nemits .. Country. -hurt ztlWirr itlatli'or other, met sbniething , 'Oe6tleinen who 'were in OptiOtirlhlictsifs4i'tsqs 4edi in that House.--;-Those' • toa . iirjrTr 'posed the inert4alies T otkitdministrafftiii' l 9iiit ihaVdtd neither. prove,- not' go' iniy)OhylervOards - .pro - vidg, that Opposition Gentlemen Were giiteinies.of . their Country. -= The truth was - -this-*tthe• whole was a. Mere artifice - of Ministers, and , f imsy brie it, was ; -flier identified themielles' '*ith the • COnstiftqltizi, -Ind• then logically,cokludedis that whneref oppored their measures was an Enemy. to the •Constit'ution„Of 'thia,COUntiy - 1 Whereas, he maintained, that •n 0 man was areal friendtO the trite - principtes our con .stitution,, who did ,not oppose . the measures of THis Majesty'si late Ministers Od," as' the N CELIOR of the Ex. : cirmiti4Ead.4l;owed his deter:. mination to pursue the 'same 'system ti,lii-L.iprcoes. sot, lie must 'Continue fo appgsc him in . m6st or h 4 ineafttets, bezauid he. appitheOdeil tb4t s'yO,nn to be injurious to the • true it.'„E`iofsr'Of this hlinelf nor only w r.tntd ' iii refUsiii g assent," - bift - ini'protestit4 ihe nitsistire 30ich was ni>n , befoie' tfie'lleuse.. it 'was 's6' !lir from" B ritt foundcd'-on any real ' iikKoimatioriao • to its Y4itstity,, ;that -I all infoititativn - Weit: the Other way GOcil cad ! what, 2' MOliSlre. ; ,lll' oftlie'lOtilt were in a'state be§t - indhs:ity 'Was riot enobth •to. himself and . 'hi s 414 Children froin'ttary three:.ljUrtlis . of the t di iil;elir, . nod frugal I n habitants of tliis . Coontry were .ipply- fox , C11;*11,' 5 :in a ; . a i IiCS from Per bunger--••tri l f 'gai'tirat 411 - 4iscOntentiii§k; •, , .fforn the es; of de. #igning men !—A.S i4 ) a:rjiap,niwit be prompted by a wicked and in3licious :bin, before ices could discover that total wait 'of . food, .eloathing' or- fuel, would make him unhappy Not no! the People of Englatid ncecleinly art to show paihern the misery thei felt ; • ani i tliich they haif hitherto :Vorn4•witil a!" i c1 P1!%99e, - for he contended ih4i•under all their acenthulitted wreteliedns.,,they npr manifested any disposition to tumult ; and he con.r tended that they ought to have been proved to l,te: in that state,. before • . they Were -deprived of their COnstitutiOn, .as deprived ' s. - he: 'they would,he,lof the :host valuable part of that Consti- • tution,_ if Parliament`. adopted the, ruemnire which was now before'tliat noose.. - The Right ~Honour_, ;ible„Gentieman admitted that tb..;.• discontented Per... sons_ in this Country were few in nurnber4 - ?What. reason was there for thus depriviug:the . nAstof the ; pegple of this Country of their Freeclorn..?...-Was there 'any reason for following the , fraekof.the late' Mi nisters-u'pori thip -subject i. . -What'. they' done: with • 605 e whom ri)*? ariirehended,t-Was I'har e . any. one-man whom: theytOok'udder the i i nth o yi t y of this meastire,.*horn.they projectited to conriftiOn ?... fiad:they tried any ofithem ? - :140.1 tiOt anY hh.4 impyiscrne4:several:for years, 'and •.thenrellOwect. them:tmbeenlargedY,ont:tit ; and yet:the-Reptrt of: the'Setne,t Committee row. Before the House alletig. - ed., that several,of: -those very persons • were 1101 V again active in , exeiting thauso, 7 he ,asked—Was airty:'opeOans.Oftliern'apprelen4cd - ==Was ,lhere a WarratiiNgifledagaitist my one. of ? Tlle re ty nld L.e.,no.excig,efor their heing. left ' t at larg_e, 'if thai parag raph in the Report eves Car : - rtc ; there wa s n itniieditncnt co taking such uy • the authority of apprehending them, was .not 'under this Bill ;this was a mere measureto empower ;111inilferS to secure and de sin ' - those, whom they istispett By the Way on -the . siibjc tof ipi , re}send- Ing,suspeaedrirsoni, he believed that- the.dot)duci ; j otl is * M.Sjeti.ty"A..,lyliniltsu k ha L l been :illegal in . ns , instan c es, 4ript, t'h4AiioiJors. flight be j sohjekt . to regal account ; for obeying orne - ; : wAirants. in Cthis .- and that iYI, truth they musk have' all, one day - ,or other; a Bill of Indemnity for what' they had been doing. He theane' , lllllt 7 .of ink Men ".to 'be k'pl)relictled ore, suspicion . only, wli,treas..theY.:Werejustined alone in 'issuing War- _ mote on informatioN td" them 'upon 'bath; He should be - glad to hear the' opinion of the AT. TORXEY Gitit”tAit. typn this 'potet-; it was a very important one, and a.ic(..f Most of those who had been taken up on :the,'., authority of -the Bill. which Was now.propeled .to.he..,revived ; they had indeed been chiefly, aecits,ect!by , the : said- informers of Pis mdjesty'; late Ministers, n 6 appeared, m said, fro the 1 . riats at the Old Bailey .and other, places. lie ; wanted to know what security- the House or .tie Publie,had, that o uch iniquirous.praAic.voilitt.,446) he folrov.4d,again ? He ridiculed .the. idea thke::44 mild and' m lenient use would...he, alle of the ipirweir -which-this measure -would pet. into the hands ; MajestY'i'Nlinisteis, who had to-night clainledlhq, anprobgion r)f . the under the AouraLlce - Abikt would, follow the stepA, • of their iinfnediiatt.ftc,i'. d,:4es:,ei . s 7 conttntied-thete.. was. but : littk lenity' or/ mildnoi,in the pradice, of .talcittg-4a.-man?up 'ow suspicion, keeping „him in a dungoon:, for yearii: waqiriiJ3,loeitl 6,r : ruining l fort une„, , and break,t. ing - the hearts of sorne.of his relations , and then the .4.nd oaf three yeas. letting , himairt .ok*, Trion', to his tale ,of ,!woe Co those,- who 'slay,causeto to, hca , . remedy.: , but that:. of ,the, , aompssjo:) , ,f some saw domere r ifit ally. tit' 4 l 44 proliitt744o4 tqacites k, tisileSs i nifst t9,- . :, , iP4l4o,44,4lLitAreiemnit gortatmerey 'itst!r!”, ) ,ti,,4*ing, , 'wti t ,..itersooP;:oii_texy... ,t hay 'dkrAiSq" , "Pj 4tl4itticr tuig,lo.42l*Op".onf ' 64 ni„ . ___cw .- aPPa"*,:igOliite,-As.. digs() they ;(titi ap tr„ 'o4l:fit appear... Ll-at ..they -111(1.. 110:e' trutfir"-Wlu, ! tithe :ita; s44if,t4tf, .1111*:1710t, '4'.XCT4477.thtiti • r!_t.nti!•-paisd-,iinfortnet. lOW+. mtlie , oci tt ", l 4 }{ OittV.o4).tl4l'ttllltc-liad.-heen tijsuredi - 'on alt is :as at r ilp3o• tkis, 'that . •11 . 1: elespiectble-fpw; that the' ...nms , of -The was ilidecV't6S - al, abtl ttis , ... . . . ilt:0-4 4 - `,6l'"v 1.16.,c5dL0 Armed Merl, siiiiiidly a tla ..2';l to ou . r Constitution. , --4Joder Bach ciircuinsi'litte, it 'vas a.ridiettloas.Oretext for inortiinate.and eiThriiibtis :flowe4- for-Minister s ,! to talk :Of the neeeSiity -nt §Ych..a:raetture as:illis 'tb,r: the. safety 'Of the'4ltitfeh .41.1iig: .. : . -.. Is .. , ... ~ . .••,:•. -. i -' - -;. • • '7!•:ie .. . 41 1 . 0.k4 T Z1 P .G4'.4V.Ek . ?./i la id, he:. ,tols*.ta .:atiali h ot the challenge whad Leen tll.rolvn out by .;jli . : oneurable . t.Gentlean an .who spoke :last, iiii . lo ciNlake snissOiniy,. that . the Constitution of the editti% try -IyQuiti no{ -1)5. safe'.i.if. the• Bill. Wilftill *AS :lid* .ilt?:4'il Cor, was.. nor r.s..ssed;' He-felt him4f - rctibrid 'eti Jn.Joakitigt.-r.his.:tssertion in consequence of •tht ''• • '.-.. terfkals.- v.nd Or.ident-:. whicE•bad been laid:lStifdit ' 6 / . - .., Conuiti t tee i7.itrui • t lie:,i, inapt esSion it viaf.itetttliftPl in •c - Ommon with - .tv el/. otitet "Pilentbe' t.', - Of irk:it/141. .. • . trutte: wits; • tiliit- it : ::this'43ill, - 431(.1; mei et - • rlss, refy - thing in:valuable. the, '.-13a ytts.tmct =o.4tistiftftimi e;f -tho .. :Country, would- be - Illable., , to beioverset ' andl'eort. vialietl,, - by . the : vittchirtationx- - .•cf ' wicked ' 'theii fir.ailiog . iitemse . i li,,es• . of. •gin -uolerictiatt 41: . Nt'ii•i.S.;', t o'roin;titiliscoilen t . and. to falt'll& their ' `o mi.. fir -1-10s.e1/4§ ... ;.In Nip:porting - a 13i11 •tbr- the Sltipensft;h l -il4' 'the itabeas•Onp . ars •.•44ti. lie;:ivat idaVyild.-titfrtrit'4lit itiw. . 4*;jitniaittreitif , ireett ,f>ktimii gtlrd:ptie . tul Wliit, lie : gate: : his,: .;‘,.-.!ent ;hv:iylt .igmtit - rikelartEo., , bestfitig6 there , fwar., noirasn in .the,.il-lotlst,tr-itt&-C•e'dfitib more-seriSible" - than, lie w`as oftlittrigrtiotti4iligritila itr por tit t'-ce 4, : -.4lkat i An., ;•••, an . . - Akt badtg-trnivoittiliti ili-itiaPAii,irvrgii7s:.4l43 .onaiiiriBiirtute itsi? . ',.:i ', 17 In tli;j? i tc:tefitgOtivo4ffAit '',". hoWC.Oery .. li i .'kTs...i-' , ,tr 11/lin i istesavoutd; ifithittipiiiion; -2 haviteen guiliy, o f itt.Ettittss. deitlittien • of; (I*r nitit.i - ,.if;lii6v , ltlg-Ali it oFiiiel:Gbtirri-y 'a t 't'hii-. tnonlent, - tl.,'y hid lifbi resorted td:thisfinicasure. ' The!-Clonimit'•,;:.t.i whieli >had ken :anpoin tedi lir 'the< itf titi; e •to irivts t i •!,:it'....' this , ..bliSintss, were Taneintif: high: dionour lath ei)ittuefeti andothey had. witliOTltt lreice ,- .ag toed upon . iy,et - 'f*.c. Cessity .of tile' adeprion'ef."this rti6s ore: Geo el Mien ,ha(iluaictße& te, treat atisl !Ilea 'lfid ier eyii..ly' •iti hip ih vf.a.;xermserited as sa i ineaSitre • ttf lenity; 'Liu ti' -, 11(4 -Won1(1.-inaintai.trOtit it. Wai a• most - lenitk,rst-rneitisu:re; end r. altictliArtrid.ihusc•persolis'' , .4lll - ns f :-i''' , 6rit it wits ittrimositsk it bi ih tender& 41:e:Nt 7 iShed 'th'.li it'.,' if i;i4earriot,:lenir , y i ttct thetti , :tsi.pieVent , Treasiin; which .vms intended; from, betircarriedtuts 7 4.ffreef ? .: tcl - » that tau.'ottirttliy:. - ivii.'throbjet44ff : tlici '''Ul.. `':ll . t . it 'bete - apped ito '4)e . a; COiisiderable,l(lree er.W.: Consistency..in the man ner",i4. wilich . Gen: 1er4( . 547, 0p... posed, .the - Bill-. 7 for„, at - pne Aior,Ach I it -:waVrepre. 4 cnted.:,as. a .mea..,;t.ire, of *traordirio . ty, seyeetty, 0.4 4 , the next it •:.was strict. that: it Fas-,:illeleAsl---fOilha,ilt Ministers 'ha:l. - 44141y laken:.up any, - 4.)ef.1:0"11: 111 consegtiCtice -, o 1 _power Which was v 4 Iq4 .in theirhantlq.:' , ..Ohe - gtOnna ; ofir - g , iirneitt. Upon xviiiclt .00tiemen . had relied was, that ininiy; N i.,,,,, , ,, 1144 been taken uji, '.bne 11A "riot heetthrOught tai tiiAl upon ..t hiS, 00in t he: wiA4drle,ask, Whether it iv ail not important itO , Coneeal , ftiinfthe I;tifilidiiievi tliese communications which W ere madt to' g overon)tftit,' and whiOt enabled ... it& proVide for theatifety of the State? . Every GentleManniSst feel liesi.-eSsenlial'it' must be that the chaonets !broth - I r y high_tioyc.razit at, received its intchigence, should not be pyblielY, known.. If'„ tile.. person who made the eomittunica. tL 13 was once' prod.us;ed asa WitneSs, it was ob vious he could not ..again he nsful in that we y,, : 4- , . It therQCOre tecamc a question of political coif. pn tatkon, whezlic 2 i; it‘Ni'a . better to puni; h oe inert;or to keep entire their tneati's.. of COMllltillie.aaOli j -lellacf been .said;:thitt.the44 Were iiO'iVi•tnestes'eix. ' amined against' thepersons'accused of4-figh 'Tte zt . 'son, bat . the Spies nr,*(iviernnient ; but In iieturn, lie- 'wished thegon; •Gptitienien would' point out-eitY • it:notice in whch the testimony" of these: Witnesse3 had been falsified. : :In poibt a fat - 1, - -4tetiVever, , thel' _ assertion .was not -cert.-eel, for there .were 'Wirnetiiiei: of ,iu , ,the:r: c l f s c rip.ten :eaittnined; , und one in cacti. cular t/:.eurred to his recolle6tion, • Viz. A Gentleman of high rank ..ult.l . charaCtcr in. the trpfeisiori':of tile LI s But Ow ; . .eN`Viinesies . had not , ontli; not, beets co....,trudi. - r , e(l,. but their' ev.icienee had 11:-.. ; .., 1 , m it ,i .. ii rla .,. red..llly Confir;ned bks,utisOitiEnt eVent's. - fle - bcgged leave to remind ..the lioui.t.,:that if it bad not been for subsequent events ) , the Saiuted 'O'Connor,' who' ' had ben.pra,i l §,cci,till he .-w as- sick 'of...he:s r i ng.i t, would''''. hate 'gone to„,hi; grave (whenever he 'went- there l '.! -loaded with - athe - riii' - 4e which .his Ceinpliriarent'' ilid,bestowed, ; :so fiber:oly upon him. Fie - .thought it; %inflect - if - W u :to occupy more of the tinirof the cnise at present ; be kid risen Marc iy for the put-- • - se-of contending, that this was a measure effm,.. • , • iity,. and of stiting. r the r rcasons why the persona . • taken up - had not beeh drought to trial. 'Ag - te - the Question which.the,tion. Gentleman wfia_spoke list - had put to hirp l , .respecting the construdion of this A4l Jul could only say , that the'Hen.Gelitleinant had the means of obtaining , Sitch extql.leiv infortna-` ion front a Learned Gen tleMart .a.ititig. near him, that'it AV:is unricc(s:iary,for him to - give arty ii:Oinion upon the suljeg. lie - should •therefore ~t acielude, iv itli',giving lais...support. to; the - Bill,- cbnyitictxl as be was,. that .1/111gAtqonspiracies .Of',...tbe aetit. • &in. gerong. core weeit stbi l ;p A s rid •o e detsfr q' tion.of every -thing that ii..a . s gear and :valuatite to the 'Country, ar,:l , it hai•the in6st lieentious Systems of French Po. ' litics were in, action, th4t. Ministers would have peen guilty of . aceelerating the ruin of the Country if thy , bacisnot prO'potzed this' measure. Mr." 7. IT. TOO Kk laid, :that -when he Wasiaiti .: • ...iii his grave, tint fudges of the,Cou n try woitlarbe (410srn. from; the Oppotiiie side of the hiouse,, a;4d • afterlvliat he liad,:lie.-ird. upon 'thi's . oceitilOn,:,lie knew' riot tither . would be the ;•'sitUational the Sub. ' ~IPt is?ten the Lean . uid ..Ge.utleinao optiosiie to him; . can-te" upon the .R6iieh. In what manner bad, the question been treattl. i, :One: . Gentleman spoke Of, .' - ,\ , ; , aSsin4tion, it n:l . l*l• , ,s'aicil tbatif an Acsassiiiiit.. - ...1' ti on was irkteride(l, --. 3 Limp ' would 'not 'rely ,npOrviiffA'' 'the, ordinary fortni ots 1 ,.,1: : he - knew .no '',' nleanac.' f' — '• but tliclorins pf,Lav th.it recourse._ could' be had . ; '' '''' l ":". to ; 'b'at , Iti.., )I;' , islied to 1',11191M where was ••thes. - , 1, rtuei'ti6ii cr9:ll'the 4ssiu q ination of-,.Minister's ?: , ' , .. ,1 6' . •' : ,lie h:4 4 . e•::;ti‘ 4s,iiiiiwt,-..4 LVeriaer? r4uhrs I Idathy.- . !II ;!. 55. - zi s 'tio' t V'il'itrii ii:)t I ',>: 11 ‘ t(? hopeAhat . anv , thing -16 ' ... ,-, uld sal_9 . . v.qi•ti,.k an . the ten;h,..pitst -- ;of.a: :T etejn. k „ f -- i4".. i, '-, it i4lo,Lie, but 'lle ‘ .. v l)(ip„Fltecl thAt,:miutt he hati.tasi;iy . y_io. 4 l(t; in i ke • s 611 - 1-Jtgpiessian ..iipertNtile 'Ri&ht'ltion. <- I c l i 4l6 l l iiii , :o, - "p) , rt'Fto I*. •.-I . li,`...tvid kiioivii . hint . • .• ftirkriertri -. %,y . s,td'aSi'd'y.s.adtnirti the- aniiab;ent IT .tif fiii matitsersialtd ,tkillVezi. roe spoke. of A time flit a the 'Hen,. Pep/Aldan ',felt - It race or - tnilld •(.oiielf he neViit-Wotilctfcel again : he lamented to -st-c:kiin iil l hli . 4teitilit 's i tuation - . because he consider ,4.l4tri as a vidirn to the most amiable of 411 feelings