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- • - SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURY.A.ISI- sECONDI I _IOI , SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock Ever since the true cortliosition of the House of Lords, and of its parties, became more clearl developed by the discussions between Lord Grey, Lord Harrowby, &c., and thence the pro- bability ascertained that the Bill would be suf fered to pass its second reading, all minds turned naturally the committal of the Bill, as to the balance-sheet, whence alone could be collected the amount of net profit derivable from the measure as finally prepared for use. All that has hitherto obtained admittance into the Lords is raw material of reform,----it is an indefinite promise. It has no preri-,:ion of size, or shape, or substance, and therefore no value can yet be affixed to The day of trial, however, has now arrived. The House will go into committee at once, or the committee will be trammelled, as ce:tain Tories threaten, by instructions of a na ture to suffocate, ere they see the light s All those provisions in favour of liberty and good govern ment which the nation, from north to south, a id from east to west, agree in considering to be the vital principles of the Reform Bill., And what are those parts, for a Tory pamphlet, re . Dukes us when we call them principles ? 1. The s disfranchisement, or rutting out of fifty-ix ulcers at present eating into the frame of the Consti tution, in the Conn of so many rotten boroughs, and the application of a partial cautery tc shout thirty others. Now can any man who has opened his eyes for the last twelvemonth say that the people of England will be tranquil under a reduc tion in the number of these sores, which the House of Commons itself has declared the ne cessity of extirpating ? We put a tame ques tion, when we ask will the people be tranquil under such usage ? . The unrepresented wealth and moral energy of the metropolis ) as well as of many other great empof-ia of both throughout Great Britain, are by the gill to possess organs of their sentiments in every future House of Commons. Does Lord Salisbury, or the Duke of 'Wellington, flatter himself that the people will entfare to be deprived of . such a guarantee for the interests of commerce, public credit, kr,Owledge, and civilization, as is con- tained the elLses by which the town inhabit . ant", of the kingdom are provided with repre. - sentatives under schedules C and D ? But Lord Salisbury, we understand, abandons the motion of which he had given notice. 3. Again, the measure proposes that not merely by a substitution of free and great communities for dependent villages or paltry hamlets, shall Eng - lisp representation, heretofore a fraud, assume a real and. active existence, but moreover by an ex tension of the elective attributes and character to - large descriptions of respectable citizens, to whom they have hitherto been, through an insufferable. spirit of cupidity and monopoly, denied. On., this point it is, beyond all doubt, that the fiercest' show nf oligarch intolerance will be witnessed. WE can imagine circumstances under which the Anti-Reforming grandees would have s m a ll ob jection to see, not the . capital aldn'e; • but fifty - Manchester's, did England contain so • many, send Members to form .an House _of Commons. The ruling spirit was made suf ficiently apparent, when a Noble Lord talked about his perfect willingness that " Bath" and " Sa lisbury," should continue to choose representa tives; and on this he plumed himself as a de . - monstration of his attachment to popular rights! But what is the fact ? Why, that places like Bath, &c., being governed by close corporations, which corporations are marketable individually or wholesale, and have everywhere been bought r and sold like - other chattels of particular families, the larger th e c ity w hi c h h as b een so ens l ave d the more adapted. is it >to the- ends of oliga rc h * rapacity, by helping to substitute names for "things, and to hide under the eclat of a populous town the intrinsic properties and uses of a no mination borough. Then it .is obvious that if 'Manchester, for instance, or Birmingham, bi , the proposed districts in and near the metropolis; could have constituencies assigned to them of a similar description to those which have delivered over Bath to one patron, Salisbury to another, and ' Cambridge to a third, the oligarchs would see nothing to be alarmed at in the•nominal extension of the franchise to such places, because the po pular feeling and spirit of the community would have no more effect upon the choice of represen taives for them, than would the opinions of the people of Peru. It is not, therefore, half so obstinately to the place for which the right of representation shall be established that the oligarch Lords are likely to object, as to the constituency by which the right shall be •: excised. Hence it is; that we anticipate a more deadly resistance to the 101. clause than to any other provision of the Reform Bill. Whether the Anti-Reforming Lords judge wisely, for their own objects, in their opposition to such a class of electors, is quite a different question ; but sure we are that such is their determination, and once more we acquit our consciences by be seeching them to consider well what they are about. If there be one portion or characteristic of the whole measure to which the industry and intelligence of the whole of England are more pledged, more devoted—with which they have more indentified the public fate and fortunes than any other, it is the 101. clause. Of the national wisdom, again, in the manifestation of such a preference, we say nothing : we take the country as it is, and look to consequences only. Will the nation hear to be duped or dragooned out of this idolized feature of the Bill ? Do Noble Lords hear any thing of what is passing around them ? Do they know that such places as Edinburgh, and Glasgow, and Leeds, and Alanchester, and Birmingham, (the population of which meets this day), exist within the island ? And with proofs before them of what the nation has resolved upon, will they set great Britain at defiance ? Will they fling down the gauntlet to the House of Commons, already pledged heart and soul to this noble measure ? Whom will the Anti-Reforming Lords impose upon the Crown and kingdom for Minister on Lord Grey's resignation ? What will be the reply written for his Majesty by that Minister, to an address by the Commons of disapprobation, and a call for his dismissal ? Will he dare to advise an appeal to the people as a means of diminishing the majority in favour of Reform ? With a House of Commons which cannot, if it have a spark of honour, vote more than one month's supplies, Lind a people who will one and all support the House in that strong but righteous and necessary measure, let an Anti-Reformer think well what it is that he attempts in accept ins office, after Lord Grey has, in despair, abandoned it, and what it is that he risks in ar raying his Sovereign's name and authority against three united nations. If the battle be forced upon us by these men's madness, why, then we cry, " Old England for ever !—God speed the People, the Constitution, and the light rm.-Times. IMPERIAL PA [IMAM EY THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF 'COMMONS. The SPEAK ER took the Chair at Four o'clock. On the motion of Lord Moo PETII, the Hartlepool Dock Bill was read a third time and pissed. Mr. £WART presented a petition from the Magistrates and inhabitants of Liverpool spinet the punishment of death for other offences than those of murder, Mr. LITTLETON presented a number of petitions from Diseenters against Negro Blrtvery. The Hon Gen tleman also presented petitions from places in Staffordshire, praying for a repeal of so much of the Beer Act as allowed persons to trade in that beverage by a license from others than magistrates; and, further, that ho house should be allowed to be opened in that trade of a lees value than 10/. per annum. The non. Gentleman could not support the whole I t-er of the petitioners; but he was of opinion that If, would be beneficial that those houses should in some way be under the control of the magistrates. Mr. HOME was sorry to hear that his Hon. Friend would in the least give in to the cry raised against these new beer-shops, He thought that it would be just that that they were put on a level with the licensed victuallers in regard to hours—he did not see why these restrictions should be laid upon the poor man who was in want of his glass of beer, and that the man who could afford to drink wide Was not tobe meedled with. After a few words from Mr. SANDFORD and Mr. TREVOR, Mr. FYSIIr, PALMER said that Hon. Gentle men v^.:re expecting too much when they thought that the system, which had only been in operation for two years, should be perfect : only give it time, and it would come round of itself. The petitions were then read and ordered to be printed. The Hon. Gentleman then presented a petition from Sir C. Wolseley and others, in the county of Stafford, pray ing for the abolition of the Bank of England and private hanks, and for the establishment of one conducted by the Government. Mr. SANDIFORD presented a petition from the menu- Facturers of Dorset and Somerset against the Factory Bill. The petitioners stated that the Bill would interfere with their manufactories, and that they had not been in the habit of overworking the children they employed. The Hon. Memos then presented a petition against the Registry Bill, and one from the town of Trent inCum berland against the new system of education in Ireland. Colonel LINDSAY ,presented. a petition from Fife, signed by seventy-three clergymen of the Church of Scot land against the new system of education in Ireland. It was very seldom, said the Honourable Member, that the Clergy of Scotland interfered with secular matters, and therefore the 'House ought to pay more attention to their representations, especially upon the sub ject of education, with whith they were well acquainted. The Board which had been constituted could not last, from the opposing materials of which it was constituted. It had, been proved by past experience that it wtnild.not paci fy Ireland ; for the repeal of the Test and Corporation Act, and the Repeal of the Catholic Disabilities had only led to further demands, and the result now was, that the Government were driven to the extinction of tithes. Mr. DUNDAS supported the petition, which came from a most learned body, some of whom were profes sors in one of the Universities, and he believed it spoke the opinion of the great majority of the people of Scotland. Mr. HUME thought the petition might have been presented without the remarks which had fallen from the Hem. Member who spetke last; but these remarks having been made, he felt called upon to deny that the Petition spoke the feeling of the people of Scotland ; for the only public meeting which had been held upon the subject-, had come to resolutions favourable to the system by a majority of five to one : he meant the late meeting which had been held in filesow. He could state upon good authority, that it was both a large and respect • able meeting, and many who attended it were as learned as any one who signed the petition. Mr. GORDON was of opinion that the petition should be supported by every Scotch Member in the. House. It seemed that toleration had been granted, but now some thing more was required. Mr.O'CONNELL said, they did not want toleration now, for the. Catholic was on a footing of equality with the Protestant:. Religion had b een prostituted in Ireland by a few canting bypocritee, for the 'purpose of leeeting up the spirit of disrension 'between the Protestant an Catholic; but, thank God ! that spirit had decreased, wise dtcreasing, and would so continue, until the number of those whose interest it was•to perpetuate it, would be so small, that they would not be worth thecountini ! As to the petition before the House, be thought the meeting in Glasgow had given a direct contradiction to the greater part of it. There was one fact to which he had before adverted r and FAA - not one of the high Protestant party had ever thought fit to cornbat, and that was, the dismissal of two officers of the army. at Malta, because they could not cone acientiously adopt a' religion which they disliked. Sir R. INGLIS said he bad once brought that very subject forward, a nd b e was supported in it by the Hon.; and Learned Member—a circumstance that that Hon. and Learneditlember had forgotten. The language of that Hon. Member was scircefy parliamentary, and such as he would not have addressed to any body of gentlemen out of the House, in speaking of canting hypocrisy. Mr. O'CONNELL observed, that he alluded to the canting hypocrisy out of the House. Sir R. INGLIS would leave the Hon. Member to settle that with the parties to whom he bad' alluded, as he best could ; but it could not be supposed that those Members who advocated petitions lik e the present could be made answerable for all that par ties said out of the House. (LEFT SITTING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Lord SHAFTESBURY took his seat on the Woolsack at five o'clock. Mr. Preston attended from the East India House, and delivered in copies of regulations:affecting Fort St. George. Lord AUCKLAND presented a petition froth the mer chants and guild of Leith in favour of Reform. The Duke of GORDON presented a petition from :the county of Rose, praying that the Distillery Laws might not be altered. The Duke of GORDON presented a petition from a place we could not hear the name of, against the Govern ment system of education in Ireland. Lord DUNDAS presented two petitions, one from York, and the other from Richmond, in that county, respecting the proposed measure of Reform ; but in so law a tone of voice, and which were repeated by the Clerk of the House so indistinctly, that we could not learn their nature. Lord FINGAL presented a petitio❑ from Meath, against the Tithe System. The Duke of RUTLAND presented a petition from Cheveley, Cambridgeshire, against the Government system ~f Irish eiiucation. Lord KINNOUL presented a petition from Stirling, and also one from Pertb, to the same effect. The Marquess of SALISBURY presented✓ petitions from the ship, smack, barge, and other craft-owners, of Rotberbithe, Blackwall, and Greenwich, against the Gravesend Pier Bill. Lord STRANGFORD presented petitions from North. fleet, Purfleet, Erith, Rochester, Chatham, and _other places, to the same effect. Lord CARNARVON presented a petition from Mine— head, Somersetshire, praying that that town might not be d i 'franc), iced. The Duke of RICHAIOND presented three petitions from Ayr, in favour of the Reform Bill. Lord ROSSLYN presented A petition from Grimhby, against that town being disfranchised. The same Noble Lord presented a petition from the wives and daughters of the freemen and tradesmen of the same place, praying that their rights might be preserved under the present Reform Bill. Lord RADNOR presented petitions from Kilbournie, Ayrshire ; Rochdale, Morpeth, and Ptrth, praying their Lordships to pass the present Reform Bill unmutilated. The Earl of RODEN presented several poitions from Ireland, and one from Roehfort, Essex, against the Irish system of Education. Lord HAREWOOD presented a petition from Ding. wall, praying their Lordships to take into consideration the state of the West India colonies ; also a petition from another place, to the same effect. Earl GREY, who, we are glad to perceive, looked in the enjoyment of excellent health, presented petitions from I I different places, many of them in Scotland, in favour of the present Reform Bill. Lord DURHAM presented a pitit;im from the Asso ciates and friends of the Northern Political Union, declaring their satisfaction at the second reading of the Reform Bill, and therefore praying their Lordships to pass it unrnutilated. The same 'Noble Lord presented petitions from the Corporations of Perth and the Royal Burgh of Dysart, to the same effect. The Duke of SUSSEX held in his hand a petition__ Lord ELDON, interrupting the Royal Duke, wtshtd the House to understand that one of the petitions which had been presented by the Noble Lord who bad last occu. pied their attention was irregular—that it could only be received as the petition of the individual who had signed it, and not as the petition of the corporation of Perth. Lord HOLLAND said, of course the petition could only be received as that of the individual who had signed it, and if there had been any thing singular in the presentation of that petition, he could tell the Noble Lord of something that was much more irregular, namely, that of a Noble Lord, after another Noble Member of that House had made a motion, and obtained leave to lay his petition on the table, had laid his petition on the table, and another Noble Lord had risen to address the House, that of a Noble Lord rising to interrupt the Noble Member then speaking.—(Loud cheers from the Ministerial, and cries of " No, no," from the Opposi tion; sides of the House.) Lord ELDON explained. Lord DURHAM said that the petition had been sent to him by Mr. Bruce as the petition of the corporation. It certainly had not the corporation seal attached to it ; but if the Noble and Learned Lord would examine the petitions which had come from d fferent corporations in the North, be would find that the majority of them had no seal attached to them. THE CITY OF LONDON PETITION. The Duke of SUSSEX. lam not sorry this conver sation has taken place, as I am about to present a petition of a somewhat similar character : it was delivered to me by the Lord Mayor, and a deputation of the Common Council, as the petition of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and the Common Council of the city of London ; hut is only signed by Henry Wnodthorp, clerk to the Corporation. I believe, however, I am correct in presenting it as the petition of the Corpora tion' of London. It humbly prays that the Bill of Reform now before your Lordships may he speedily passed into a law. I conceive it to be my duty to accompany the presentation of this petition with some remarks upon the subject to which it re lates. On the second reading of the Reform Bill I remained silent, conceiving there were many Noble Lords who would more strongly ailvocee it than it was in my power to do. In the course of the debate which then took place, some doctrines were promulgated by several Noble Peers agaist which I wish to take this opportunity of entering my protest.—(Hear, hear, hear.) One of the topics which it was endeavoured to press upon your Lordships' attention was, that the passing of this Bill would militate against the coronation oath. I have now been many years in this House, and bare often heard with regret the same argument applied to the passing of another question, now happily settled, although a Peer then at the head of his Ma jesty'e Councils,—(Hear, hear,)—and since dead, admitted that the coronation oath had nothing to do with- the matter. I do not wish to be under stood as making any personal remarks, but on the contrary, to use the most general and cautious terms ; but still I must say that I do not think that argument can be urged with any delicacy on questions of this kind. As I have, all my life, been the advocate of Re form, it cannot be matter of any surprise to any Noble Peer who hears rue, for me to declare that ordially subscribe to the proposed plan of his Majesty's Ministers. lam satisfied, my Lords, that in doing so, I take that course which is best calculated b p promote the tranquillity and welfare of the country. I do not go the l eng th o f grant i ng t h e pr i ncipl of Re form solely on th e groun d of expediency, b u t i t cannot he denied that this is a meaeore which will be of great advantage to the country at large. Objections have been made to the Bill before us on the score of its being too extensive in its nature, and, perhaps, had it been brought forward at an earlier period it would have been e.o, but it is the continual procrastination which this question has suffered that now renders it neetseary for us to grant more than heretofote might have been sufficient.—(Hear.) The step, tee know take is to be attributed to the delay of carrying improvements, the affect after it was admitted to be required more than to any other cause whotever. In looking at the Constitution, and the prin ciples upon which it rests, it does strike me that . - the objections which have been made by certain Peers to this measure are founded in tome degree in error. I conceive my Lords, that the Crown has the power of creating Peers, but I do not conceive that the Crown has the power of nominating any individual to represent his Majesty in The Cotnatmons. If the Crown, the first brancti of' the Legislature, have not this pot , , I cannot conceive that the second part of the Lok4islatule, or any individual portion of it can have any title to it...-.(Hear, hear.) I con sider that the vety principles of the Constitution nay that specific Acts of Parliament distinctly prove, that it never was intended that a No ble Peer, or any individual whatever, should have the power of nominating a Member of any branch of the legislature. If such were the case, why have acts been passed requiring Members of the House of Commons taking office under the Crown, to return to their constituents to see whether they approve of the line of politics be then becomes likely to adopt? Surely it was never intended that a Member of the House of Commons taking office under the Crown should vacate his seat in order to ascertain whether a Peer or any other individual ap proved of what he had done, and would return him again. Ido not think that dangers, which some think likely to arise from the increase of the democratic influene in elections, will be found to exist. In countries where no political power has been exeleised by the people, no doubt great dangers might arise from suddenly invest ing them with the influence which this Bill will give to the people of England. But in this country such a power as is here bestowe 1, has been already, to a certain degree, in the hands of the people. Our object is to extend that power, and as the people are deeply in terested in the measures which their representatives propose, I cannot imagine that the power which it is proposed to' vest in their hands will be misused as some apprehend. I shall therefore feel it my duty to support the Reform Bill, as it now stands. I consider schedules A anti 11 as of vital importance, and as far as nay own individual exertions go, shall give them my complete support. I think it likewise but fair to state to your Lordships, that the ten pounds clause is one which I do not think myself justified in giving up. When we settled the hist' consti tuency we fixed upon a 101. fret holder as the lowest quiiiification for a country voter, and I do not think it more than fair that we should take an English 101. house holder to vote for the Members of our towns. With re spect to the great question of the metropolitan Members, I for one shall give it entire support, and I shall do so upon the principle, that if population and property jointly give a right to have representation, London has that right in a most pre-eminent degree. I do not, :how ever, pretend to speak to a figure, but if your Lordships will look to the returns of the assessed taes, I think you will find that London and its suburbs pay one third of the assessed taxes in England and \Vales. Witt► respect to knowledge and intelligence, I tbink there can be no doubt that the inhabitants of the metropolis are as much entitled to increased representation as on account of their great wealth and popu lation. I have spoken calmly, and without making personal observations, because I wished to imitate the example set by my Noble Friend at the head of Government who hos tikin every conciliatory step it was in his power to do, I beg to move that the petetitfon be laid upon the table. The Marqutts of SALISBURY rose to inquire by whom the petition was s gned ? The Oak replied that it was signed by Henry Woodthorpe. The Marquess of SALISBURY submitted that it could only he received as the petition of that individual.. _. Cries of "No, no.") Earl GREY said it it was solely a question of usage. He had always understood that petitions from the Com mon Council had been signed in a similar manner to the present, and he therefore hoped that their Lord ships would not upon this occasion depart from the usual practice. Lord ELLENBOROUGH observed, that petitions which came from corporate bodies bad usually the seal of the corporation affixed to them, which was not the case in this instance. The Duke of SUSSEX said the petition purported to come from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council. Lord TENTERDEN said that if the corporate seal was not attached, it could not be the petition of the corporation. The Earl of ELDON concurred in the view taken by the Noble and Learned Lord. The subject then dropped, and the petition was under stood to be received as from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and common Council. EDINBURGH REFORM PETITION. The LORD CHANCE. LLOR—My Lords, I h o ld in my hand a petition from the inhabit ants of Edinburgh and its vicinity, agreed to at a public meeting assembled for that purp o , e . I am bound to state, my Lords, that in order to suit the convenience of so large a meeting the petition is signed as it was directed to be signed, by the Chairman, tl,e Secretary, and 12 gentlemen, who were chosen from among the rest, and, therefore, it can only, I suppose, be received as the petition of those persons; but I will ven tore to say, that no petition ever more deserved the title affixed to it as the petition of the inhabitants of Edinburgh and its vicinity than this does. The meet ing was attended by a vast concourse of the inhabitants of that populous district, and I belive I shall underrate the number who attended if I state them at less than 40,000, and indeed I am informed that the number was consider ably greater. Men more zealous for the question which called them together your Lordships would be unable to find; men more temperate and more peaceful in their demeanour, both at and subsequent to the meeting, it would be impossible to discover. There was not the slightest indication of tumult, or even of any thing like the smallest approach to a breach of decorum, to be observed during the whole of the day on which the meeting took place. I will now, my Lords, state the representation and the prayer of the petition in which the inhabitants of the metro polis of Scotland are joined by almost the whole body of their fellow-countrymen.—(Hear, hear.) They state that they received with great satisfaction the confirmation of the second reading of the Reform Bill by your Lord ships. They state their unaltered desire for the speedy enactment of the measure into a law, and they state that that is the only effectual mode of establishing the Constitution on a firm and lasting basis. They therefore pray that your Lordships will be pleased to press the measure without any alteration, and p aticti • larly without raising the qualification for voting.—(llear.) The Earl of ELDON said there could be no possible objection to receiving the petition as that of the persons whose signatures it bore, but he thought that the best time to speak of the system of Scotch representation would be when the Bill for Scotland came before House. The Duke of RUCCLEUCII said he had taken some pains to inquire respecting the meeting at which the peti tion was a gree d t o , an d a l so th ose w h o com p ose d it, and from the information which he had received he had no doubt that there was a large assembly, but he believed that as many persons went there from motives of curiosity as those who went with a desire to petition in favour of the Bill. That the meeting wie conducted with great temper and moderatiou, was certainly to the credit of those who were asiembled and he had no doubt that it was g ot up with great care—(Hear, hear, from the Ministerial side) — but as to the petitton expressing the opinions of the majoritity of the most respectable and intelligent classes of Edinburgh, he begged to differ with the Noble and Learned Lord in opinion. He referred their Lordships, in support of his assertion, to the address which he had the honour to present to his Maj•-sty from Edinburgh, signed by 16,000 or 17000 Fersons, who represented six or seven millions of property—(Hear, hear)—and in the Gazette he begged to observe that he found that petition was in a most extraordinary manner stated to be in favour of Reform, and only about two sentences of it were printed, and the most important parts omitted. Ear: CAMPERDOWN admitted the respectability of the persons who attended the meeting, at which the address referred to by the Noble Duke was agreed to, but be hefged to call to their Lordships' recollection that it was an exclusive meeting, and none were admitted but those who were of a certain opion._ ([fear, Lear, hear.) In the town of Edinburgh there were from 140,000 to 150,000 inhabitants, and if only about 1,700 could be found to petition against Reform, it was a strong and conclusive argument that the general opinion of Fdingliargh was in favour of Reform. —(Hear. hear.) 'With respect ;o the meeting, from which the potion presented by the Noble and Learned Lord (Brougham) emoted his information wa( very different from that which had been stated by the Noble Duke. He bad been informed that that meeting was attended by' persons of great respectability, and by persons of high character, and speeches had been made which would not disgrace any assembly whatever. The preses of that meeting was known to him and most of the inhabitants of Edinburgh to be a person of the highest talent and of the highest character. The general fea ture of the meeting was the middle class, and they conducted themselves in such a manner that be was sure wonld put down that infamous falsehood which had been disseminated so industriously that the people could not assemble 'together for political purposes without confusion and disorder. He was inclined to attach importance to anything which fell from the Noble Duke, from the high station he oc cupied in that part of the country. But he was astonished to here it insinuated that that meeting had not been atd by the respectable persons of Edinburgh. REFORM BILL. The House, on the motion of Earl GREY, resolved it self into a Committee on the Reform Bill. The Noble Earl, on doing so, congratulated the House on arriving at that important stage of the proceedings. He stated that he should propose, in the first instance, that the title of the Bill should be postponed ; in the next place, that the preamble be postponed, which he hoped to he considered as a matter of course. —(Hear, hear.) He intended in the next place to propose that the number fifty-five should be left out of the first clause of the Bill, leaving the rest of the clause to stand as it was, and the number of disfranchised boroughs should be filled up, as the House proceeded with the consideration of the boroughs intended to be dia• franchised—(Herr, kear, hear.) This he meant. to do for the purpose of obviating objections which might be made to the clause if it stood as it was at present, but which might not be offered to the clause in this way of going to work. Lord LYNDHURST rose to move as an amendment that the preamble of the Bill as well as the con sideration of the second clause, he altogether post poned. This be did for the purpose of having the following part of the measure brought under their Lordships consideration in the first instance. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HO USE. Among the vagrants who appeared before the Loin) MAYOR was a young man named Jones, whose destitute condition excited much commisera tion. He was discovered sitting near the ninsion house without a coat, weeping bitterly, and it ap peared that his master, Captain Thompson, of the 14th regiment, whom he accompanied to the Con tinent, had died abroad, leaving him destitute. He made his way from Genoa to Paris, and from thence to London, where he had wandered about in a state of destitution, and was at length obliged to pledge his coat for a lodging. Finding himself next morn ing• without food he gave himself up to despair. The LORD MAYOR humanely ordered some relief to be given him, with money sufficient to redeem his coat; and as it appeared that his father had been either tenant or servant to Sir W. W. Wynn, in Wales, for forty years, his Lordship directed Sir Watkin's address in town to be given the young man, who believed that the B.tronet would do some thing for him, if acquainted with his distress. B 0 W-STREET. ,S'igisinund Sacks, a German, about thirty years of age, respectably dressed, and wearing silver spec tacles, was charged with having obtained surgical instruments, value 351. from Mr. Heather, of Bed ford -court, Covent-garden, under false pretences. The defendant, on being placed at the bar, appeared greatly agitated, and endeavoured to hide his face. Mr. Heather deposed that he is a surgical-instru ment-maker; on the B.h of March the defendant came to his shop, and stated that he was a medicAl student just arrived from Germany, and wanted to purchase several articles to send to a friend at Ham burg; he selected instruments to the value of 351., which he desired might be put by for him, and he should call for them the next morning. Witness saw no more of him till he was brought to his shop yesterday. iThe defendant said nothing in answer to the evi dence. Mr. HALLS, after looking at:the bill of parcels, said he was of opinion that no charge had been made out against the defendant on which he could detain hi m . That a gross fraud had been practised, there could be no doubt ; but the party giving a bill of parcels for the goods converted it into a debt. The defendant was then discharged, and disap peared with a celerity that shewed he apprehended, had he delayed, further detention. Another bookseller, and a surgical instrument maker, stated that they had suffered by the defendant in the same way, but had given bills of parcels. About a fortnight ago, two boys, named Raines and Bigg, sons of respectable salesmen in Covent- Garden, were playing at shuttlecock, when an Irish boy, named Duggan, who came near Bigg, received a blow from his battledore on the eye, by which he was stunned. The wound was dressed, and the boy was seen in the market for some days after. The blow was received on Tuesday, and on the Friday following he was taken ill, and died that night. The parents immediately accused the boy Bigg of having murdered their child, and he was brought to Bow-street, where Mr.MlNsituu'refused to entertain the charge till after the verdict of the Co roner's Inquest was known. At the inquest five medical men were examined, and the Jury returned a verdict, " That the deceased died a natural death from cholera morbus." The boy's mother, how ever, was not satisfied with this verdic., and went to Marlborough-street office, where she made such statements of the case, and the evidence she had to produce that was not produced to the Coroner's Jury, as induced Mr. Conant to write to Mr. Halls, stating his opinion that an investigation ought to take place, and that if the Bow-street M ag i strates refused it, he should deem it his duty to investigate the charge himself. Mr. MINSHULL, in consequence, has appointed to-day for a full investigation of the charge, and five surgeons and fifteen other witnesses are summoned on the inquiry. HATTON-GARDEN. Mr. Edwards, livery-stable keeper, of Long-yard, Limb's Conduit -street, was summoned by an in former name Stapylton, for not having the words " L;censed to let horses for hire" painted on a con spicuous part of his premises. Mr. Edwards said he had the words " Licensed to let job horses for hire." Mr. LAING told him that the word" job" must be left out, or he would be liable to be fined every day. The defendant was then fined If. .55., being the lowest penalty. UNION-HALL. A bill-sticker charged a respectable tradesman, named Powell, with an assault. The bill-sticker was posting a bill against Mr. Powell's house, when Mr. Powell came out, tore the bill down, violently beat the complainant with the sticks used in posting the bills, and then broke them. Mr. CURLING, the magistrate, thought Mr. Pow ell had acted very properly; and if a bill-stick er came to his house in that way he would break every bone in his skin. Mr. WEDGWOOD, the sitting magistrate, differed from Mr. Curling; Mr. Powell had no right to strike the bill-sticker. He had his remedy against the bill sticker's employer. He would advise the complai nant to take out a warrant against the defendant for wilful damage in breaking his sticks. Perhaps, however, it would be better for Mr. Powell to end the matter by making a small recompense to the de fendant. Mr. CURLING—I desire Mr. Powell to do no such thing. I would break a vagabond bill-sticker's bones if he came to placard my house. The bill-sticker, by Mr.WEDGwooD's advice, then made a charge of wilful damage, and valued the broken sticks at 35., and Mr. Wedgwood said he should fine Mi. Powell that sum. Mr. CURLING—Then I advise Mr. Powell not to pay the tine, and I will hear him harmless. What Y. is a man's house to be stuck with bills by these vagabonds, and then is he to be fined for breaking the implements by which his property was defaced ? This is too bad. Mr. WEDGWOOD said Mr. Powell had no right to break the sticks, and if the fine were not paid, he should commit him for a week. Mr. CURLING—ICI were Mr. Powell, I would appeal. The magistrate's clerk said that the Act did not allow an appeal. Mr. WEDGWOOD—Are you prepared to pay the fine, Mr. Powell ? Mr. CURLING, with warmth—this is a most ar bitrary decision, and I tell you so to your face, Mr. Wedgwood, Mr. Powell was justified in doing what he did, under the circumstances. These vagabond bill-stickers have been at my palings, but if I catch them at it, I'll not leave a whole bone in their skins. Mr. WEDGWOOD—If Mr. Powell had been in dicted for this violent assault, I am sure he would have been imprisoned for a month. Mr. Powell here said that he would end the mat ter by paying the fine. When the parties were leaving the office, Mr. CURLING called after the bill-sticker—" Dont come near me, young gentleman, or break all the bones in your skin." MA RLB 01?0 UGH-STREET. school, i oconrheaosrt ou y t e l : ,npB 4:overt over Just as the magistrates were about leaving the • bench, Miss Zouch, who is said to be related to the Lonsdale family, attended at the office, accom panied by one of the assistant-overseers of St. George's, Hanover-square, for the purpose of being passed to Dublin with other paupers. Miss Zouch having sworn to the contents of the documents ne cessary on such occasions, the order for her being passed in the usual way was then made out by Mr. DYER, and on Monday morning she will start for her place of settlement in Dublin. Shortly after the refusal of Miss Zouch to marry Mr. Wootton, the rich West India merchant, even after the parties had entered the church of St. George's for that purpose, she became greatly reduced, and in Sep tember last she was compelled to make application for parochial relief at Marylebone workhouse, where she became an inmate for three months, two of which she passed in the infirmary, in consequence of a pleurisy in her side. On bet being enabled to take out-door exercise, the Duke of Portland, one hes succ eeded,r icuhseobligedds ho er ttoo took gki caused and vn eo w u a t pos noticeh b a I lr of the Parish Board, interested himself in her be half, and provided her with means to proceed to Brighton. At Brighton, Miss Zouch commenced business, btthte Fora thde oy t 0 i business by opening a small shop for the sale of mil linery, by many persons residing at the Pavilion, but her health at length declining, she became una o h n le shop. Another application was made to her relations e of her numerous appeals, and Miss Zouch opened a affixed the following :—" An evening school kept here by a reduced relation of the Earl of Lonsdale." This speculation, it would appear, was as unsuccess• ful as all her previous ones, and she returned to Lou don about two months since, and took up her abode in South Molton-street. An application to the parish authorities of St. George's was then made for relief, and they assisted her with a few shillings , which was no sooner expended than Miss Zouch at tended with the paupers at this office. The magistrates commiserated her reverse of fortune, and spoke to the assistant overseer in her behalf, who informed the Bench that sire bad ne claim upon St. George's pa rish, and that her only place of settlement was in Dublin. He, however, promised to communicate with the Board on the subject. This was done, and they agreed to give Miss Zouch five shillings, upon her promise not to trouble them again, unless it was to pass her to Ireland, as she had " other claim. From that period up to Wednesday week, she was supported by the charitable contributions of several individuals, but more particularly a lady re siding in the vicinity of Hanover-square, which be ing discontinued, she was again under the necessity of applying to the parish for assistance, and she was admitted into the workhouse. Shortly after she be came an inmate, a gentleman, on behalf . of the Noble Earl to whom Miss Zouch claims a relationship, waited upon her and observed, that if she would leave the workhouse his Lordship prospects. Miss Zittch, would take care of her future either tnehod e s f rN I : w e ar we understand, made some observations respe of cting what she might expect from the me re promise her noble relative by the experience she had received, and refused to leave the workhouse unless an an nuity was settled upon her. This was not complied with, arid Miss Zouch considered t ha t the best measure she could pursue was to get passed to Dublin, it being the place of her nativity, and her time of her birth, the chief clerk father being, at the to the Earl of Westm oreland, the then Viceroy of Ireland, which situation he held for 27 years. She consequently consented to be passed by the parish, and hence her attendance. She was attired in a at one time, of the most fashionable de scription,large cloak, a black bonnet of the and cottage shape. Her figure and features still retain a degree of ele gance, and her manners and language bespoke a liberal education. It is said that her acquaintance w i t h Mr. Wootton cost that gentleman between 1 5,000/. and 6,000/., and notwithstanding she ha , { entered the church with him for the purpose of being united, "many conflicting circumstances rushed o'er her mind," and she refuEed to proceed to the altar. MARSEILLES. (From a C irrespondent of the the Chronicle.) The inconsistency of that small fraction of the Press called ultra, is as flagrant as the cause they advocate is hopeless. They want absolutely to make Provence; thet L Vendee of the reign of terror. Allow me to console them a little, and to give them a little information on the statistics of Marseilles. The very worst p'ace they could choose for unfurling the " dirty rag" is the church of B*. Laurent. From it no part of the town could see it ; it would be visible only to the port, which would be very had policy, as the crews of the different vessels would first perceive it, and as the greater part of them are not Marseillais, the inhabitants of the old town would find, at first stirt, a host of heart/ haters of their favourite ildg. The old town of Marseilles, according to the French and English Carlist papers, is a focus of revolt against the present Government. I wish them joy of their partisans—they are the lowest dregs of society. They are no blockheads, however, and if they meant to licoiq their favourite flag, it would be in the heart of their filthy streets, on the spires of St. Alartin, or on the Temple of Diana, now the Cathedral, and not on a loaf, insignificant church, exposed to the forts, and not twenty yards from the first street of the new town—which street,.by the by, is one of the broadest in Europe, and, consequently, excellently adapted for regular troops, artil lery, and cavalry. So much for localities. The Chiefs, ad interim, until Bourmont's arrival, are Lachau, de Baudole, de Poggie. I know the old fools well, and oto declare that they are not to be surpassed for political imbecility by our Sir C. Wetherell, Croker, or Perceval. They Chiefs of a provenenl rabble !—the very poissardes would not be commanded by them. The mo ment I saw these names, I burst into a fit of laughter ; fin. I saw directly that some wag of Marseilles was hoaxing the yobes-mouches of the expectant party. Many a similar joke I have seen played off upon the above -named pig-tail trio : I have heard a solitary billet read when coming from the lime electorale, inscribed with the name of M. de Baudole, set President, scrutators, and electors in roars. Some Liberal sacrificed his vote for the sake of the satire. But to be serious ; I should not have troubled you with a liter on this subject, were it not for a comment in the leading article of a clever Morning contemporary, The writer says, that Marseilles is a city, " where the factions are nearly balanced :" meaning that it contains an equal number of Carlists and Liberals. I know what it is, for 1 lived in it during the whole of Charles the Tenth's reign. I was there when the news of the revo lution arrived ; I saw the white flag pulled down, and the tricolour hoisted, in the teeth of a General, a Mayor, and a Prefec', who were rank Ultras—the latter, in fact, an assassin of the one hundred days. They had two regiments at their disposal, and yet they were obliged to decamp, after having in vain sounded the old town. No city in the world has changed so much as Marseilles has since 1814. The only fear I have is, that it will run into an opposite excess, and become a focus of republicanism. In the time of the last of the Bourbons, it sent twice to the Chambers a Liberal Deputy, one of the 121, M. Thomas. Its Grand College, in reality a rotten borough, always sent an Ultra. The present Deputy is, if I do not err, M. Arnavon, a rich sugar-baker, Colonel of the National Guard, and one of the most liberal men in France. The new town, which contains all the wealth, all the intelli gence, all the moral and physical force, is inhabited by persons of liberal ideas. The young men are Republi cans, at least in theory. Tnere was a time when the old town was formidable ; when it was the residence of the portes faix or porters. This class of men were once terrible ; but even under the Charte they grew rich, and perceived, that what e first they were told to hate, was, when tried, a means of ex tending commerce, and procuring them constant employ ment. Interest has made them liberal. They no longer live in the old town, but have neat houses in the pleasantest parts of the suburbs, and are extremely attached to the mercantile houses that employ them. They alone are sufficient, in paint of physical force, to beat to piece. the i r n a u b u be t l s o h f the poor u uidaplm pat ariu t s of the Aisrsei od l i l es city. h S e must o that if expect, Basouhr is supporters, only a few poor lazaroni, with some fish women, and old priests. That gallant Chouan must re collect how lie was hooted and pelted at Marseilles on his journey to Algiers ; believe me, the invitations of M. de Baudole and Company will not persuade him to enter its gates for some time. - The eighth division has its head -quarters at Marseilles, and is commanded either by General Delort or Cs.ravac and while it is so commanded, the little corporal himself, if he came back with all his recollections thick upon him, would not plant the white flag on Notre Dame de la Garde of Marseilles. GLIk'TON AND BRISTOL RACES.—From the c l i ft great on s tak n e u s mbr of , and dt h horses h eir ability t t for peedan for t strength, li as well as from the t:11111 to be contended for, which amounts to about 400/., very excellent sport may be ex pected at these races, which come off on Tuesday and NVednesday the 15th and 16th of May. The time of starting is fixed for twelve o'clock precisely; there are three other races on the first day, and four on the second, all of which are well filled, and promise to exceed those on any forreer occasion. The stewards, Sir L. P. GLYN and M. H. CASTLE, Esq. have arranged for the Race Ball to take place at the Clifton Hotel on the previous Monday, the 14th of May.—Bath Herald. A Bengalee being questioned respecting an English gentleman who had recently erected a windmill, exclaimed " What kind of man this Englishman ? Catch horse, and make work catch bullock, and make work—. since, and catch w i n d, an d make work ! e, HA 14 NH HORRlBLElHolLrßoAN,NaSAsiCngTielo:Torn.—anAressiidtionrg in the t time township of C rompton , b ut b e l ong i ng to Royton, Lanca shire, wa s a d m i tte d i nto t h e wor k house at the latter place in a stat e o f ill h ea l t h an d apparent lameness in the hips, nc arising, as she stated, from rheumatism, with which she was afflicted to such a degree, that she was bent nearly double, and in walking made use of a stick for her support. She slept in a room up stairs containing two beds, one of which she occupied, and in the other slept two female paupers. On the morning of Monday last, she became worse than she had previously been; and towards noon her illness increased, but, being supposed to be merely rheumatism, no particular notice was taken of her, and she was left alone nearly the whole of the afternoon in her sleeping room. The governess of the house was in the habit of staying up late at night, and observed, previous to go ing to bed, a considerable light in one of the rooms down stairs; and on asking, without opening the door, what it was for, HILTON replied, that, being unwell, and unable to sleep, she had got up and put some wood on the fire to keep her warm. The governess blamed her for wasting the wood unnecessarily, and went into the room for the purpose of taking the log from the fire; and on removing a large piece of wood or of soldered coal, she was not cer tain which, she discoverel the body of a child lying upon the fire, with its face downwards, and partly consumed. She took it af immediately, and the following morning the woman was placed in custody. The body was that of & mile child, of about seven months, and perfectly formed : when discovered, it was quite dead. On Wednesday the remains ;vete examined by Mr. TAYLOR and Mr. FaroNs surgeon., of Royton, who were of opinion that the child had breathed after birth. The legs, arms, and face were much burnt, the left arm and kg the worst ; the left leg WAS completely fra lured above the ankle. A very severe wound was also apparent on the upper part of the os frontis. The wound appeared to have been given by a heavy instrument, such as a poker, and there was, when the examination took place, a considerable effusion of blood from the orifice. After a lengthened investigation, the Jury brought in a verdict of " Wilful murder."---. Wake field Journal. BIRTHS. On the 6th inst. the lady of the Rev. Charles Wodsworth, A.M., Prebendary of St. Paul's, of a son. On the sth inst. at Leonard-place, Kensington, the lady of W; Smith, Esq., of a daughter, who survived its birth only two hours. On the 4th inst. in Hertford.street, May-fair, the lady of C. W. Puller, Esq., of a d aughter, still-born. On the sth inst. in Dover -street, the lady of T. B. Eyler, Esq., of a son and heir. On the 4th inst. on the 51arine-parade, Brighton, the lady of Simon Digby, Esq., of a daughter. On the sth i ns t . at Bengeo, M ARRIED. Jarman Patrick, jun. of St. Ger man's, N or f o lk , to Susannah, eldest daughter of George Yea. therd, Esq., of Watford, Herts. On the sth inst. at Kensington Church, Mr. T. A. Hockley, of Earl.street, to Mary, eldest daughter of Stephen Bird, Esq., of Kensington. On the sth inst. at St. Mary's, Newington, Surrey, Mr John Colston, of Kennington New.road, to Eliza, daughter of Mr. Joseph lsmay, of Newington, Surrey. DIED. On the 3d inst. a t Holywell.street, Nlilthank, Mr George Selfe, of the Victualling Office. At Pembroke-square, aged 64. Kensington, Mr. Stephen Jay, ten., On the _nth ult. at Broughton near Manchester, in the 30th year of her age, Sophi a Russell, wife of Mr. John Edward Taylor, and only daughter of the Rev. Russell Scott, of Potsmouth. 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