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would be the cost of a Bishop of Cornwall ? It would bishopric only, but it went to curtail the rights and pri no doubt be equal to if not more than 4,0001. per arnetn. vileges which bad attached to old bishoprics for hen. Now, this sum would be sufficient to raise the minimum dreds of years. No doubt that right of sitting in Puha incomes of all the clergy in Cornwall to the amount of ment had existed since the time of Henry VIII. ; but 1001. per annum. the question was, whether, under all the circamstances Sir G. GREY said that as the proposition for a bishop of the case, the provision contained in the Bill was not of the county of Cornwall was not yet before the House, expedient both for the Church and for the country? it would not be thought necessary for him to follow the With respect to that question, the Noble Lord the Mem- Hon ourable Baronet who had just sat down in his argu- ber for Shropshire had laid down the true policy which meats upon that point. With respect to the necessity of ought to be pursued. He (Lord J. Russell) believed the appointment of a bishop for Manchester, he thought that if the interests of the Church required it, they a clear case had been made out for such appointment by ought to increase the number of bishops; but he also the fact of the great increase of the population of the believed that, if in that question was involved the pos see of Chester, and not merely of general population, session of further temporal power by the Church—if but of members of the Church of England, and the vast they could not add to the spiritual force of the Church, increase which had taken place in the number of the without also increasing her temporal power, then natu places of worship and of the working clergy. rally, and he believed justly, objections would be raised Dr. NICHOLL said that some very exaggerated up to such a scheme. He said justly, because the Church statements had been made in the course of the debate of Scotland and the great body of the Dissenters in with respect to the expenditure on the palace of the England would have a perfect right to say that all laws Bishop of Ripon, the one advanced by the Election Corn- affecting them were obliged to be considered in the missioners had been only about 1,200/. instead of 54,0001. House of Lords; therefore they objected to any increase as stated by Hon. Members. of the power of the Church of England in that branch Mr. B. ESC OTT complained that the real question of the Legislature. The scheme would be objected at issue in this case, had not been adverted to by the to because of the temporal advantages which it would Right Hon. Baronet the Secretary of State for the Home give to one body of Christians over all others not Department, which was, whether an increase of the po- in communion with her, and he would consider pulation required a corresponding increase of the number that argument a fair one. The Honourable and of bishops? Learned Gentleman had said there was no precedent Mr. HUME said that he had repeated again and again, for the plan. He considered that,aritjlhdoeyethapearnescefeoadtreinant and would repeat again and again, till he had obtained an was !form e d i n t h e case of the bishops in Ireland. answer to his objection, that this measure was a flagrant theßy i a i( s ) y u s s t e em of o L f or r d o s ta f t o io r n a t e h e o r s t e ain bi p sh er o i p o s d e breach of compact. Lord J. RUSSELL denied that this was a breach of certain nnmber of years that privilege ceased. But, compact. A settlement had been made some years since said the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, it is the same on the subject, but there was nothing in that settlement to with the temporal Peers. No doubt they were in the prevent the Government at any future time from propos- same position, but he did not think that that affected in ing a measure similar to the present. any degree the position w hi c h h e h a d taken. We see After a few words from Mr. HORSMAN and Mr. that thatprovi of the Churchsiontaltes place ininlrlerlealnadn,da. ndrodroetshnets)et COLLETT, strangers were ordered to withdraw.tend to the injury reasons he was of opi n i on th a t t h e C ommittee should d t o h p a t t iitt as w a i 7 The House divided, when there appeared.-- introduceCliheu rbtchehlie t v o e a d For the amendment for r e t ß h i e l 1 as advantageit then stood. o f Against it stood than it would b e to the Majority —2t e Bishop of Man- The amendment was consequently lost. chester as an additional bishop into the House of Lords. Mr. V. SMITH then moved the following amend- He agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman that if he ment:—That in page 4, line 2, of the preamble, the were contented not to contemplate any increase at anv words "so soon as conveniently might be, three other time in the number of bishops, he thought the argu additional bishoprics," should be omitted. What, he ment might remain, and that there should he no intro would ask, would be the case in a future Parliament, if duction of new bishops into the House of Lords ; and these words were allowed to remain part of the preamble? being of that opinion, he did not think that they ought Why, that these new bishoprics would be appointed ; now to make an exception which might never again be and, according to the views of the Right Hon. Baronet altered or liable to variation. He believed that the the Member for Dorchester, the bishops at present ap- scheme now proposed was the best, and he hoped, there pointed were not sufficiently- occupi e d, fore, that th e C omm i ttee wou ld agree to the clause. Sir J. GRAHAM—Not overburdened with labour. Sir T. D. ACLAND thought the creation of a new Mr. V. SMITH—WeII, that being the case, he thought bishopric would be attended with many serious imprac there were other points which should occupy their at- ticabilities. However he would accept it as a sort of tention before they proceeded to increase the number of instalment of that which they ought long ago to have bad. the Episcopal body, such as giving the bishops addi- Mr. ROEBUCK objected to the clause. tional powers over the clergy. He was also of opinion Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL thought that it would be the that the House should be influenced by the recommen- best thing that could be done to meet the spiritual dations of the Ecclesiastical Commission. That Com- exigencies of this country to create the new bishopric, mission was of opinion that the spiritual destitution of but he did not see how the spiritual exigencies the people was to be removed by an increase in the of the community would be met by giving the proposed number of chapels, and of the parochial clergy. And bishop a seat in the House of Lords. He thought that he (Mr. V. Smith) was at a loss to know how this re- giving it to him would be more likely to distract his commendation would be carried out by an increase of attention from the care of his flock. three in the number of the Episcopal body. After Mr. AGLIONBY supported the retention of the quoting the evidence of the Bishop of London, in favour clause. of this view, he proceeded to say that the Noble Lord The House then divided, and there appeared-- had acted wrong in acceding to the suggestion of the For the clause Right Hon. Baronet, the Member for Dorchester, in Against it not postponin g th e preamble. and also contrary to pre- Majority -- -54 cedent. In his opinion it would give rise to a discussion On our return to the gallery, upon the preamble on every clause. Lord JOHN RUSSELL was stating that, with respect After a few words from Lord CLIVE, to the third and fourth clauses, he thought they might Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that his object in in- well be posstponed.—(Hear.) The third related to the serting these words was, that the course of the Govern- endowment of deans o f Y or k an d S al i s b ury, and the ment might be generally known ; but as they were fourth to the endowment of archdeaconries. not intended to pledge any future Parliament, he thought Clause 5 was agreed to. the words might be as well omitted.—(Hear, hear.) The remaining clau ses were th en agreed to, and the After a few words from Sir R. INGLIS, report was ordered to be brought up this day (Tuesday.) Mr. AGLIONBY thought that the cause of not post- THE LORDS' AMENDMENTS TO THE POOR poning the preamble was neither inexpedient nor in- LAW AMENDMENT BILL. convenient. Lord J. RUSSELL th en move d t h e order of the day Mr. WYNN thought the alteration consented to by for the consideration of the Lords' amendments to the the Noble Lord, was a judicious one, and he trusted the above Bill. He said there was one clause, with respect House would proceed with the consideration of the to old persons, which the Lords had omitted. To that clauses, and any further alterations in the preamble amendment, considering the general feeling which had might be made afterwards. been manifested in the House with respect to it, he Sir J. GRAHAM was of opinion that, generally should disagree.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to another speaking, it was judicious to postpone the preamble ; amendment, relative to the admission of rate-payers to but with regard to the present Bill, he thought that the the meetings of the boards of guardians, as the main course was not convenient, and the turn which the principles of the poor-law were not involved, he thought debate had taken, confirmed him in that opinion, the amendment might be agreed to. On the other, Mr. HUME regretted that as the Noble Lord had however, he considered the better course would be to consented to throw out three parts of the Bill, he did disagree with the Lords' amendment.—(Hear.) not also consent to throw out the remaining portion, Mr. WAKLEY moved the adjournment of the de namely, the Bishopric of Manchester. As it was, he bate. thought that the word " forthwith" should be omitted, Mr. ETWALL was surprised that the Government and the words " till such time as the two sees should be so readily gave up this clause; he begged to negative the united," substituted, motion of the Noble Lord. Mr. M. PHILIPS had intended to offer this opposi- Sir G. GREY said it would be better to leave it to tion, but was not certain that this was the proper time the discretion of the board of guardians, as to the ex to do so. elusion of strangers from their meetings. Mr. ROEBUCK said that although the rccommenda- Mr. WAKLEY thought it would be better to ex tions of the Commissioners were mere matters of recital, punge heth clauses, and then upon an agreement with and might be objected to by a clause at the end, yet, as the Lords, one of them might be retained and the other the speediest way of settling the question, he thought expunged. that Hon. Members should, if they saw fit, object to Mr. BROTHERTON had acted as a guardian, and each of the recommendations as they were read. he was aware of the objection that the poor entertained Mr. LAW thought that the discussion should be to exposing their affairs to the rate-payers, and if it was taken when the whole question came to be discussed on for that. alone he would vote against it. the after part of the Bill. Captain PECHELL said that if the press and public Mr. ROEBUCK said that the Noble Lord could no were admitted, there would be no more such scenes longer depend upon any °se of the recommendations of enacted as had taken place at Andover. the commission, for by throwing out so much of the Mr. I'. BORTH WICK was utterly inaudible in the recital he had altered in a very material degree the gallery. character of the recommendations. After a few words from Mr. ET WALL, Sir G. GREY said that the Bill would have been The House divided, and there appeared— complete even without the introduction of these, and, For the amendment 89 Member for Bath was of no force. Majority against the amendment —7o After some conversation, the portion of the preamble The Lords' amendments to the Irish Poor -law Ad • under consideration was agreed to. nistration Bill were agreed to. The remaining portion of the preamble was then read Polling Places (Ireland) Bill, Lords' amendment s w , ere and agreed to. agreed to. On clause 1 being proposed, The other orders of the day were then disposed of' The ATTORNEY GENERAL moved that the fol. and the House adjourned at One o'clock, till Thsee lowin this g words be inserted—" And also any order of her day (Tuesday). Majesty in Council relating to the said union (of the sees of Bangor and St. Asaph) and of the new see of Man chester." Sir JAMES GRAHAM said that as it was his inten tion to raise the question on the second clause, he should not then offer any opposition. After a few words from Mr. HOME and Mr. B. OSBORNE, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL read the order in Council of 1839 relating to this subject, and commented upon it. The amendment was afterwards agreed to. Some conversation of rather a technical character arose between the Legal Gentlemen on both sides of the House, respecting the remaining portion of the clause, which was terminated by Mr. HUME, who said it was perfectla absurd to see so much uncertainty upon a clause which ought to be framed in the clearest manner. In order to get rid of the difficulty, he should object to the clause altogether. The Hon. Member then moved that the clause be omitted. Strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House divided, when there appeared-- For the clause Against it Majority The clause was then agreed to. On clause 2 being proposed, Mr. S. WORTLEY rose to move the amendment of which ha:had given notice. The question they had now to consider was, whether it was an injurious precedent they were about to make in depriving the bishop they were going to create of all the rights and dignities which his predecessors in the Church had enjoyed. The only reason he had heard for not following out the arrange ment was that which had fallen from the Noble Lord— namely, that, on account of striking out the words ob jected to in the preamble, he felt authorised to pre vent the Bishop of Manchester from taking his seat in the House of Lords. He appealed to the Noble Lord whether it was worth while to introduce this infrac tion on what he would call the constitution, and thus to set a precedent which might inconveniently and 'njuriously, at a future period, be acted upon. He tehaep rt g h put it to th e N o bl e L ord whether it would not be i tbetterialo to ott hshf aasaiany controlaa there over was t h t n o b l e e r g a y n n e w f t h b i n s h o n p , u w lo h u o was s district h dth ich Manch es t er m i g h t be considere p d p as the bissh(od other bishop should i s n ? ves H te e d b w e i l t i h ev a e l d l privileges w r n iv e ilege it was for the publi c goo d that bishops should be called to mix in public life with statesmen, so that at any time they might be called to account for their proceedings in case it should be needed. He contended that modern times presented no occasion for feeling dissatisfaction at e h r im of greaterbeeg efficient influence the cond uct of bishops, The se a t possessed sby the among hi s c l ergy, and g b i r s e h a o t e p r g p a o v: in his ministry. He r in ose from th e f act o f r e m nn t e lu a r m in n g u t n h te e d si t t o admitted that i nconvenience bishops being obli ge d to remain a ling of Parliament ; b ut this ineonvetn° would l acti" conatni t . H e i o t n tle w i b n ie c h om th p e ar p is r o o n po w se i d th m t in h rese i n of the eon should, therefore, move that this clsyteirtyu ause should be struck out. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL defended the reten tion of the clause. Age. the augmentation of the cure of souls, as far as these mi g ht b e seen necessary, due considerationof _ being a l ways had to the wants and wishes the differe n t di str i cts. How, then, were the expressions of Hon. Gentlemen justified? Here it appeared that the G overnment, by di m i n i s hi ng t h e superfluous dignities e of the Church, and by abrogati ng t h e patronage of . the Crown a n d of the bishops, h a d a sum o f 3 00 , 0 00 1, per an num, a portion o f w hi c h t h ey w i shed now to devote to the extension of the English bishoprics. He did not w i sh to argue again the whole merits of the question; it was sufficient for him to say that the pre sent was to b e v i ewe d i n the light of one of a h s a e d rie b s ee of n me asures, and looki ng t o t h e re f orms wh i ch al ready obtain e d b y t h e a b o li t i on of pluralities, the more effectual provision for the cure of souls, and many other reforms, he really thought th a t if a case could lee made o u t f or the establishment of a new bishopric, it Would not be right to prevent the Church from the exercise of that power which belonged to all dissentients, whether uivii, ecclesiastical, or political, viz., an extension of the Means of government of such bodies. He thought that it was an essential part of the plan which he had hinted at that there should be an increase of the number of bishops beyond that of Manchester. He was fully.per suaded of the correctness of that opinion, and he o did not p ur p ose to take one single farthing frm the taxation of the country, or to in crease the p ower of the Church by giving those new bishops seats i n th e other House of Parliament. In that opinion he was fortified by the opinion of the Right Rev. Prelates, who formed part of the Commission. The Whole bench of bishops were quite satisfied with the arrangements, that there should be a creation of new Hbishops who should not have seats in the Upper House. e trusted, t h erefore, that the House would not refuse go into Committee this evening on the Bill, especially as he had given up the sitting of the House on Saturday on the express condition that the House should go into Committ ee to-day for the purpose of hearing the objec tions of the Hon. Member fur Manchester, and those of the Right Hon. Baronet the Member for Dorchester, ilt OPpOSitiOn to the details of the Bill. Sir W. M OLES WORTH thought that the whole of the argument of the Noble Lord might be summed up in eee sentence, viz., " that we have hitherto done some amount of good, and it is right, therefore, that we should ho w do a little evil." He did not think that such M'was an argument fitted to be used in favour of a easure for fhe creation of a new bishop. He thought that it ought to be clearly established to the satisfaction of the House that there was a necessity for a new bishop before the Bill was allowed to pass into law. So far from tevant such a case havin g b een made out, there had been ne.y Speaker s on his side of the House upon the Bill, it it of that number seventeen had spoken against the by thel\TOpressing emergency had been brought forward t , ogle Lord, or by any other speaker, for pushing sßoiiad new w t "'s measure forward with So much haste. The Noble Lord bthisehcoopnamiseion had recommended the creation ght that theroef ,!'' Q t . St. Asaph and j -8 he (Sir W. Molesworth) m l i f h r t ch be e ter upon the union of the tno a Bangor ; and let the Noble Lor'd bring recommendation. probaby something in that, reason for n r in a measure to carry that ; but there certainly could not be any Oesnpyecaiall% , ""i, e'sirl .' ., ' forward a measure of this nature, 1 n e ; r 7 c u e n the Noble Lord had said that this was th e su b. - -. ° 4 of a great and comprehensive measure on J(et. Wou ld be He thought that the better course w hen to Postpone the Bill till next session, for th e opportunity would be given in caon eici f e a r li atio n and discussion of the whole bear -58 of the question ; and he for one would promises best such a measure was brought forward, to give it his and most attentive consideration. Nrr. TRELAWNY said that he would divide upon every stage of the Bill; but he would not be a party to "Y factious opposition. MESSAGES FROM THE LORDS. attenessemeer from the Lords appeared at the bar, and ded ' a conference with the Commons. d J. RUSSELL with several other Members thenatoretired, and after the lapse of ten minutes returned held intimated to the House, that at the conference just they had Leeds ' i agreed to receive me=sages from the .. Lora art t f p a r a es " ' t by O ne Master in Chancery instead of dr. lII.TrSII44L explained 3ust al'ioienToleET continued to . think the measure un terrained t(;) ctionable in every respect, and he was (le t/email proareesist it in all its stages. (The Hon. Gen the hostility proceeded to read several letters expressive of bishoprics, ‘4l,h?',_the writers to the creation of any new M. wyea. lo u e xcited much laughter.) th e rules NE thought it was not in accordance with reed an o f the Rouse that any Gentleman should li nuse. y doccurnent without the permission of the 34:11/11r-IIITINIE said that this was done every day by e yrs eers of the oL the Government as well as by other Mem- Th e 110115 P. SPEAXER did not think the Hon. Member was out e e , , oruer „ .. .ale. T bus 4- lecab ee f '3*COMBE hoped the Hon. Gentleman the bi s e „or peter Winch would not proceed further with hout; t i me o. u . m t ent, as V(r ntae Y the arrangem could not give it his support, being Go ti Q t on Frid l ent he had made with the onto th e rs aY ast, not to give any further (ieposi kr. B. ~,,,n h 'e going into Committee on this Bill. ma th e e`; ) °, RNE concurred with the Hon. Gentle- Place en - ig i rnher . for Finsbury, that after what took l bent e e th "'aY ineht, he could not support the amence tom h e h ° non. Gentleman the Member for Winchester, An o /3 ° Ped the Hon. Member would withdraw it. fro na th • I,,ESCOTT said, that after what had fallen not resel'ailio,n. Member who had ' just spoken, he would Th e aese 4 . a endialent to a division. The fi'7,7nonarit was then by leave withdrawn. mr "'lse then went into Committee on the Bill. . M pr e tue ros O •eILIPS said a deputation of his consti head of tabu, W ith him waited upon the Noble Lord at the t() Pass i (: Government, urging him not to allow this Bill of re n its present Corm and he took that opportunity .they present of her Majesty's Government that when Ject, their to legklate again upon this subs lost , i ,'eir vievvs and statements should not be Was R.g,,t4,f There could be no doubt that Manchester 'lot tij r , -at 'Y in want of spiritual education ; but he did eiQfley.nk this Bill was calculated to supply the defl tfan Preat o th e Re must th erefore move a verbal amendment oble of toe Bill, to prevent certain parochial stn m hOO - the purposes olafthi, Bill, a c ester being appropriated to llr pr,,, had been . -I P LM ONDELEY regretted that this measure DLi t he nitherto discussed in so intemperate a tone ; 00 the 131.(1 now, that they had got into Committee Wool be the merits and details of the measure with le ss discussed with more temper and decorum, and es,e3of reference to party feeling or sectarian differ 6uPPorted°Pix•ii°h• P _ or his own part he most strongly ‘,ithi_ this measure At present Manchester was distiounthireLjurisdiction of the Bishop of Chester, but that Of his' w ished prelate had so much to do in other parts mttnehe iocese that he could not devote that attention to But un der Which its wants and importance demanded. aoeit existincs circumstances, considering the th eu 4 of the fund's attached to a new diocese, he h i , t it would be much better both for the bishop elf fo r tb as well as the diocese that the bishop should not ex pe _l v Present be put to the expense of sustaining the L c u rci " e dignity of a seat in the House of Lords. . 4113 Wer j. RUSSELL wished to say a few words in b t to what was Stated by his friend the Hon. Mem r for , . aloch'i‘alanciaester. H e did not think that the reasons t o i n . " 0 gave were such as to make it at all necessary Chapter troduce a claus e in this Bill as to the Dean and parochial of Manchester. The question in regard to the did not duties connected with the Dean and Chapter rrl4s, e t o.t depend upon this Bill; but at the same time he th e 'aY that he thought, after hearing the statements sf c)f, ftetlernee who came as a deputation, that the revenue fro ' e bean and Chapter was derived almost entirely oT. estates in Manchester and its neighbourhood, that apiritl 613' ought to be made in some future Bill for better riur nal „care, by applying part of these funds for that W as o In what mariner that was to be done, and what eas te but h 0 exact state of the law, he was unable to say; tr?tentei did think there was sufficient cause for calling the on of Parliament, at a future time, to the applies "en of these funds. W Mr. HUME did not believe that the necessities or wants of Manchester required the establishment of a th e Bishopric.bish Manchester was within the diocese of '4le po Chester, and all the services the people re quired of a bishop could be easily performed by that i ns Rev. Prelate, if the number of p h o e o a e r. listrict work m e r le !if WALKERaye a e s n a t i e d ci Tit ( was his intention to give Lis consent to the passing of th e Bill. Mr. HORSMAN suppo r t e d t h e amendment. He oaid not object to the creation of a Bishop of Manchester, ft as it bad already been se ttl e d t h at a bishopric Manchester should not be created till th e un i on of the Sees of Bangor and St. Asaph took place, he did not t hink it right to proceed with this Bill till that event oc ur"--(flear, hear.) i ,fir , SEYMER said he had no doubt that the work :,,lt clergy were of great service . . to the Church, but it evas necessary that some supervision should be placed w elt so large a body of them as were engaged in ad d m is i . - lin er - . te log spiritual relief in the large and important I 4 e t f of Manchester.— . (Hear, hear.) e( ter a few words from Mr. AGLIONBY, , he I ' P ENNANT said he represented a portion of this ti er th eeese of Manchester, and he could state that the 1 4 t RY of the district which he represented were strongly Ivour ou this measu(Hear, hear.) kil e 'te e r u• few words Irom Mr. Hume, Mr. Horsman, li,,"'',,,..elnaondeley, Mr. Collett, and Mr. M. Philips, t lro - vv• MOLESWORTH thought that there were - tree.loestioes to be considered, first, whether an d i i n h ett ! of bishops were really necessary; and rcon i_, iN t 'ler it would or would not be more advisable if, She te % . (l „ of creating those bishops, an increase . were to ee " in the amount of the incomes of the working k ''V, 0 f the country. He did not think that a case of tti sli e -It Y had been made for the creation of a new o llt 4 s - , 1) ,: t It had been stated by the Noble Lord that ti'e %i ed Y had been established eleven years since. He t , 4 e erri t ,.. l as : t such was . the case; . it . had been proved by tttt to ;4 , 0 ission, which then inquired into the subject, ~,,,do , ale cases there was not enough for the bishops ,C 4 i t a nd in other cases there was too much,. it:a tt t , ll , Wa S resolved to unite the sees of St. hat'4 f -nd Bangor, to divide the see of Chester, . 0 i lls 14, create a new Bishop of Manchester. 11C, t aik * Ould ask the Noble Lord why in the present 44110 p, brow had not, instead of proposing to make a new th e tlf ( . 4, l.°l 'ght in a measure to add a portion of the h: s,, e4ter, which was considered as too large, to lie /. Etv e -7 St- Asaph ? The Government would thus 42 seeilid inflicting on the people of England an in iet'ule 1.,,,,°s was proposed by the present Bill. The th: t itio e ti t :l had gone further, and said that it was his toottoo e ° htit y ° P r o Pose to create a Bishop of Bodmin for 0 e e°l Cornwall. But he having sat for the li e f ,sor ee I.°rnwall in one Parliament might claim to te e P qeitell3wlodge of the feelings of that county, and riee-arte.,a ,Jovineed if there were a n y Hon. Member il llpp l P ill hi ua face and that be would not dare to 41 teee t s o r t f l ace . thank the Government for the 4 Bishop of Cornwall. Now, what Mr. LAW objected to the clause, as being unconsti tutional. He hoped the Noble Lord who had brought forward this Bill, and by it was about to confer a benefit on the Church and the country, would not be niggardly in his gift, but make it worthy of their acceptance. Lord CLIVE asked every Member who felt an inte rest in the spiritual welfare of the community, to support the Government on this Bill, as by doing so they would have four bishops instead of one. Mr. NEWDEGATE objected to the clause. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that the Bill had passed the House of Lords, where there were bishops to object if the Church was likely to suffer by the exclusion of this bishop from the House, and as they had agreed to it he did not see that any reasonable objection could be made to it, for no one could doubt that they were, at least, competent to give an opinion on the matter. He could not but agree with the lion. and Learned Gentle man who had introduced the amendment, that, according to the constitution and the law, a bishop, upon his being created such, had a right to his writ of summons to the House of Lords. No man disputed that. But it did not follow that if Parliament should give the right to the Crown to appoint to a new bishopric, the Parlia ment could not attach to that appointment any condi tion which it might see fit. If the Crown were called upon, es debitejustitice, to call all bishops to Parliament, there would at once bo an end to the question of prero gative ; but he contended that it was not invaded by the clause under their cqnsideraliou. But then, said the Hon. and Learned Member for the University of Cam bridge, raising another objection, the provision con- Wiled in the clause was one not affecting the new THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY' _EVENING, JULY 20, 1847. ELECTION MOVEMENTS. HARwwn.—Mr. Attwood's nominee, Sir Dudley Hill, has canvassed Harwich, and met with most in ' different success. The good people of this immacu late borough, want more than promising to pay; they require ready money and no credit. ST. ALBAN'S.—The constituency of St. Alban's have been on the alert for candidates, and have been ransacking London in all directions for aspirants to Parliamentary fame. No less than four candidates are already in the field, and yet they want Mr. Salo mons, Mr. Wilks, or any one else to add to the num ber. As yet, the fish will not bite, but the voters hope OR. SOUTH LANCASHIRE.—Mr. Entwisle has an nounced himself again a candidate. The injudicious conduct of the fag-end of the League, in repudiating Lord Brackley, has brought this about. Never was the good advice of Mr. Cobden more wanted, than by these meddling gentry at the present time. RIPON.—Sir James Graham comes in for Ripon. Any candidate for this place, who stands under the family influence, may be announced as corning in, not coming forward. HULL.—Mr. Baines, Q.C., and Mr. James Clay, will, it is believed, be returned for Hull. YARMOUTH.—Mr. Goldsmid and Mr. R. Bagshaw have the call here. NORTH CHESHIRE.—Mr. Astley, led on by a few restless spirits, will, it is believed, come forward for North Cheshire ; but the great majority of the elec tors, feeling that Mr. Stanley and Mr. Egerton, having been mutually agreed to be supported, upon which ground Mr. Davenport retired, will not break an honourable compact, and Mr. Astley cannot succeed. CAMBRIDGE.—Mr. Humfrey, Q.C., has consented to stand for Cambridge on the Conservative interest. There is, however, little fear for the success of the Liberal candidates. STAFFORD.--A new candidate, Mr. Healey, of the Temple, has made his appearance, and has gained many friends. He is a man of first-rate talent and an excellent speaker, and is reported likely to succeed. FRO ME.—Mr. Bethel], of the Chancery bar, has returned from an inspection of this borough. He is said not to be greatly pleased with his visit. INVERNESS BURGUS.—The following is the address which has been published by Mr. Matheson, of Ardross, to the electors of these burghs : " Gentlemen,—Your present representative in Par liament having announced his intention of not again soliciting your suffrages, I beg to offer myself as a candi date for the honour of representing your burghs. " Having but recently returned among you, after a long absence in the East, I would have hesitated to ob trude myself thus early on your notice, were it not for the very flattering invitations and promises of support which have been spontaneously tendered to me by a large and influential body of your number, embracing in dividuals of all shades of opinion. " Whilst I approve of the principles of free trade, and of ..the liberal line of policy pursued by her Majesty's present Ministers, still, if „I be so fortunate as to be re turned by you as your representative, it will be my study to pursue an independent course in Parliament, and to support such measures as may seem to tend to the gene ral good, from whatever party they may emanate. My best services shall at all times be devoted to your local interests; and it will be to me a source of no ordinary gratification to be placed in the proud position I aspire to, by a body of my own fellow -countrymen, and for a district with which I am so closely connected by my per sonal interests as well as by the ties of early friendship and local attachments. " Unavoidable engagements detain me in London for a short time; but I hope in a few days to be enabled to return to the Highlands, when I shall have the honour of waiting personally on you, and of affording you such explanations of my political sentiments and views as may be required.—l have the honour to be, Gentlemen, your most obedient servant, " ALEX. MATHESON. " London, June 22, 1847." Mr. Matheson arrived at Inverness on Wednesday, the Bth inst., from London, and commenced his can vass with every prospect of success—there being no opponent in the field. Mr. Matheson was the repre sentative in China for many years of the house of Jardine, Matheson, and Co. future. While he thus disclaimed anything breathing a spirit of hostility to his Noble Friend and the Learned Sergeant, he thought there were circumstances which, as characteristic of the cause and i❑ gratitude to the borough, ought • not to be concealed.—(Hear, hear.) They had secured this great result by exertions alto gether of a personal kind.—(Hear, hear.) Individually, he (Mr. Harvey) had not entered one house to canvass one vote.—(Great applause.) He had engaged no canvasser and paid no cab.—(Great applause.) The result was a splendid monument of what free men could do who rightly understood their rights, and haft a prin ciple stamped on their minds. He was told that before to-morrow's sun should set there would be proclaimed the names of their opponents. Whether they had to contend with one sturdy knight—(Laughter) —or two, was equally a matter of no importance if they were true and faithful.—(Cheers.) For himself; he should be pre pared to give the only earnest —no feeble one—of his sincerity and devotion to the object in which he had embarked, by throwing off those fetters which bound him, which would enable him to cast himself into their arms, and repose there.—(Tremendous cheers.) Let them permit him to say, without dwelling on any of the various topics which he had discussed in addressing their large meetings, that there was one point with regard to this last subject which ought to be one of the principal motives which would induce them to emanci pate him from the thraldom in which he had been thrown by the contrivances of parties. For the first time in the history of the country was a clause intro duced into an Act of Parliament by which, when made a commissioner of police, he was rendered incapable of being elected. The fact was, that he was not ap pointed by the Crown, ;but chosen, outj of other candi dates, by the City. The Hon. Gentleman having pro ceeded to expose the dangers of a Tory policy, when the Tory candidates appeared, concluded his address, which was warmly cheered throughout, by stating that he was sure that what the herald proclaimed to-day of their power, was but a presage of their own omnipotence. L'zd D. STUART, in a brief address, graceful with drew his pretensions, and congratulated his oppo nent.--Cheers.) There were loud cries for Mr. Sergeant Shee, but Mr. Ivimey explained that he was kept away unavoidably; and Sir B. HALL made several attempts to address the meeting, which were very ungraciously received. CITY OF LONDON ELECTION-MEETING IN THE WARD OF FARRINGDON WITHOUT. Last evening an extremely numerous meeting of the inhabitants of the ward of Farringdon Without took place in the Farringdon Hall, King's Arms-yard, Hol born-hill, to hear the opinions of three of the Liberal candidates—Mr. Pattison, M.P., Baron Lionel de Roths schild, and Sir George Larpent, each of whom, particu larly the first, was loudly cheered on entering the hall. 4r. WALKER, who in the course of his address said he was a Dissenter, was voted to the chair. He trusted that the electors would not be influenced by individual character, but would support those candidates whose principles tended to promote the welfare of the commu nity at large. Although he differed in some points from Lord John Russell, still he saw so much to be approved of in the Noble Lord's long public career that he would still sapport him.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to Baron de Rothschild, he found no reasonable objection to him—no on e cou ld o bj ect to him in the relations of private life, and he did not see why any difference should arise in public matters.—(Hear, hear.) Who ever read the history of Christianity would see that our hitherto treatment of the Jews was disgraceful, and he hoped soon to see those laws broken down which pre vented the sons of Abraham from becoming their poli tical friends and advisers. The worthy chairman con cluded by eulogising the public conduct of Mr. Pattison, M.P., and Sir George Larpent. Mr. PATTISON, 'M.P., rose, and was received with im• mense cheers. He said that as his speeches for the last eight or ten days, addressed to the electors of ithe City, and containing expressions of his public principles, had been published in the different newspapers, he could say but very little more than he had already said. He would remind the meeting of his votes in Parliament. He had voted for the ballot—(Cheers)—for triennial Parlia ments—(Cheers)—for household suffrage—(Cheers)— for abolition of the punishment of death—(Cheers)—he had voted for the repeal of the worst part of the Reform Bill, the rate-paying clause—(Cheers)—and he believed that his noble colleague, Lord J. Russell, would, if he had time, in the present session, have passed a measure to nullify that clause.—(Cheers.) For his other votes he referred the electors to the published lists of divisions in the House of Commons. He would persevere in up holding his old principles, and he hoped that they would get rid in time of the drags that still lay heavily on the trade of the country. He felt great satisfaction in hav ing for his colleague the Prime Minister of the country, who was not perfect —no man was—but who was he (Mr. Pattison) believed, as honest a man as ever breathed.—(Loud and long continued cheering.) Who, asked Mr. Pattison energetically, will you get to re place him ?—(" No one.") Sir Robert Peel is a great man, and has done great good to the country, but his party is nothing—(" It will be less")—and he could not now form an Administration.—(Hear, hear.) Will my friends have Lord George Bentinck?—(" No, no.") He is the head of a third party, and I do not think that my friends will support them.—(" No, no.") The other candidates, Baron de Rothschild and Sir George Larpent were known to the electors through their speeches. He hoped they were Radicals, as he was. He was a Ra dical—that is, a person s opposed to everything radically bad, and friendly to everything radically good.— (Cheers.) The Hon. Member then eulogized Baron de Rothschild, who, he said, was a friend to religious liberty, and he hoped that by electing him they would get rid of Jewish disabilities, one of the last, together with church-rates, objectionable laws on the statute book.---(Cheers.) He firmly believed that if they elected his excellent friend they would get rid of that monstrous stain on the Legislature of the country.—(Hear, hear.) Was not Baron de Rothschild a most charitable man?-- (Hear, hear.) Whenever he (Mr. Pattison) knew of a case of distress, Baron de Rothschild was the veryjfirst person he applied to for assistance. During the recent and still prevailing distress in Ireland, Baron de Roths child not only subscribed most munificently, but placed two steam-boats, at his own expense, at the service of those conveying relief to Ireland.—(Cheers.) He hoped the electors would back Baron de Rothschild, whose family he would back for charity against the families of a dozen noblemen.—(Cheers.) The Baron DE RomtscHum, on rising, was received with loud hurrahs. He said, that as their veryjable chair man could see no objection to his being a candidate, it was equally clear, from the kind demonstration now dis played by the meeting, that they did not see any objec tion to him.—(Cheers.) At the suggestion of many of his Liberal friends he had come forward, as they thought that a trial for civil and religious liberty should be under taken through and by him —that they should have an opp?rtunity, s not:only of expressing their opinions on the subject, but of proving them by public acts.—(Hear, hear.) On those grounds he claimed their support. The Hon. Candidate then expressed himself favourable to free trade, showed its good effects, and said if Liberal Members were returned the system would be followed up to the greatest and most beneficial extent. As reli gious questions were now more agitated than any other, he begged to say that he was decidedly against church endowment, and would oppose for such purpose any grant of money from the public purse.—(Cheers.) He would endeavour to support the progress of education without any religious interference, and would pay the greatest attention to.the improvement of the franchise. A large meeting would take place the next day, when every question would be fully discussed, and when he would be prepared to answer every querist, as he was prepared now, and at which meeting he hoped to see public opinion as great, and greater, in his favour than e ver.—(Cheers.) Sir G. Lanrnsrr then addressed the meeting. He came forward as a merchant of the city of London, professing liberal principles, to solicit th e h onour of being chosen one of its representatives. He was a friend of free tradh in the widest extent of the term. With re spect to social improvements, connected with the poor laws and the suffrage, they should receive his patient attention. He would support reduction of t axat i on, revision of the Excise laws, a n d wou ld vote for the removal of the window -tax. He cons id ered a tax on property right, and fair, and just, but an income-tax was neither right, fair, nor just.—(Cheers.) He consi dered church -rates highly obnoxious. Persons should not be forced against their conscience to support the Church establishment, bull it should not be allowed to go to ruin. On the question of religion, he was opposed to all endowment whatever taken from the general funds of the country. All who contributed to the taxation of the country had a right to share in the benefits of public education. No system of public education should receive his suppo r t w hi c h i n t h e s li g h test degree inter fered with the consc i ence o f any man. Those were the opi n i ons by w hi c h he —cH ca meant ( tto h r s' e t:i hear.)ild ) o fall, and which h e wou ld su pp or t, if elected .—( Cheers.) Baron DE ROTHSCHILD here withdrew, saying that he had another meeting to attend. Mr. PATTISON, also excuse my going. I am going to the ns to vote against the M.P. —You ° COT i nt Bishop of Manchester.—(Loud cheers.) The meeting shortly afterwards e s t e h p r a e r e a c te a d n , did h a av te i s n e g expressed the fullest confidence in the MR. GREEN'S BALLOON ASCENT.—Mr. Green, whose multiplicity of atshet relates cents, hasee to ta secu a r e e r d os ap t r i e o s n c , ri m pt a i dvoe safety in everything an other ascent last evening from Cremorne-gardens in the presence of some thousands of spectators, man of whom were persons of rank an d fashion. lie was ac companied by his brother, as first-lieutenant of the aerial ship, and his passengers in the car and on the hoop were—Captain do Bathe, of the Fusilier Guards ; Captain Cust, of the Grenadier Guards ; Mr. Windt or Heneage, Mr. Lindsey Antrobus, Mr. H. M'Calmont, Mr. T. Little, Mr. Rein, Mr. Spencer, and Mr. Williams. Lord Clanwilliam was to have been of the party, but every seat was filled before his Lordship arrived, and he was consequently left behind. The huge machine was wafted gracefully in the direction of Hounslow ; the wind blowing from the east. The gardens were crowded with company, who after the ascent adjourned to view the dramatic representations, and partake of the good things in the numerous refreshment-rooms. NEW ITALIAN OPERA HOUSE, COVENT- e GARD ou E s N e . - 0 The production of " Anna Bolena" at the n so w me h capital noble performance) is distinguished y scenery by Grieve, worthy of note, in terior of a gorgeous Tudor hall, which were the obtusely well painted. If the main arches we should be without pointed instead of semi-circular, particularly b i s excellently the e e recent al l for D praise. iv e r- t a ig n se o nt bj e e n c is ti , o objection. T th h e e sceneryertisticthisty building, Mr. In respect of sound, in Albano's ar rangements pemeurnts hav e tila bee c ri te_ m vi o , st c .s su z : tki ce e s r sful, every note is e enda COURT CIRCULAR. Tho Queen and his Royal Highness Prince Albert, accompanied by his Royal Highness Prince Waldemar of Prussia, walked yesterday morning in the pleasure ground and plantations of Osborne. - Their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, Prince Alfred, the Princess Royal, and the Princess Alice went yesterday morning to the sea-beach, and took pony and walking exercise. Her Royal Highness the Princess Helena was taken an airing yesterday forenoon. The Rev. Mr. Protheroe had the honour of joining the royal dinner circle at Osborne, on Scnday. The Duchess of Sutherland and Lady Caroline Lee son Gower have taken their departure from Osborne. His Royal Highness Prince Waldemar, of Prussia, his Excellency the Chevalier Bunsen, his Serene Highness Prince Lowenstein, Baron de Laner, Count Oriola, and Count Groeben, remain at Osborne on a visit to her Majesty. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester, en tertained their Royal Highnesses the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, and a select party, at dinner, yesterday evening at Gloucester House. His Royal Highness the Duke of Cambridge visited the Royal Hospital at Chelsea, yesterday. Viscount Duncan, M.P., had a n interview with the Chancellor of th e E xc h equer , y ester d ay, at his official residence in Downing-street. Captain Fitz-Maurice had an interview with the Right Hon. T. Milner Gibson yesterday, at the Office of the Board of Trade. The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council had a meeting yesterday in the Council Chamber, Whitehall, to give judgment on an appeal from the High Court of Admiralty, " Shersby v. Hibbert," relative to the " Duke of Manchester." The Lords present were the Lord President, the Master of the Rolls, Lord Brougham, and Lord Campbell. Judgment was given by Lord Campbell. The Court then rose. SPOR TING INTELLIGENCE. TATT ERSALLS--MoNDAy. Some singular fluctuations in the betting against the Hero imparted more than usual interest to the Goodwood Cup betting. It appears that for two or three days re. ports of his being lame have been rife at the West end, and that odds, ranging from 6 to 10 to 1, have been laid uglinst him. A more favourable disposition was evinced yesterday, several hundred pounds having been laid out at prices varying from 7 to 2 to 9 to 2, the last bet being 4 to 1. Eryx maintained the position in which he closed at Liverpool. The Wolfdog was backed at 7 and 8 to 1, and Halo, with Brea. spirit, at 10 to 1. Sunbeam was declared not to start, and Fitz-Emilius receded to 40 to 1; in fact, was out of the betting. The betting on the Good wood Stakes was c.lifined to six or eight horses, of which the first five only were in any request. A few bets were made on the St. Leger and Derby, but no change worth speaking of arose. Latest prices GOODWOOD STAKES. 7 to 1 ag s t Lord Chesterfield's Stultz—taken to 2001. 8 to 1 agst Mr. Sainsbury's The Questionable 12 to 1 agst M r . I saac Day's Milliner —taken 12 to 1 agst Mr. Elwes's Miss Ells —taken 12 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Lothario—taken 20 to 1 agst Lord Exeter's Hydrangea—taken 20 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Vampyre Duke G. of I)olaDt3 Richmond's 20 to 1 agst Mr. Kimber's Tantivy 10 4 ttoo agst t t D M a r k . 7 to 2 agst Lord Eglinton's Eryx h D o e n c H: s e p r n . o-- ai t o a_k g e t n ake 7 to 1 agst Mr. G. H. Moore's Wolf-do n freely 16 to 1 agst Lord E. Russell's Dulcet 16 to 1 agst Mr. Gully's Pyrrhus the First 40 to 1 agst Mons. Aumont's Fitz-Etnilius ST. LEGER. 9 to 4 agst Mr. Pedley's Cossack 6 to 1 agst Lord Eglinton's Van Trornp 10 to 1 agst Duke of Richmond's Red Hart 20 to 1 agst Mr. Pedley's Foreclosure 30 to 1 agst the Duke of Richmond's Halo—taken 000 to 10 agst Mr. S. L. Fox's Executor —du. DERBY. 25 to 1 agst Mr. B. Green's Flatcatcher—taken 25 to 1 agst Mr. Mostyn's Surplice—taken 28 to 1 agst Col. Peel's Sesostris—taken 33 to 1 agst Mr. Payne's Glendower 40 to 1 agst Mr. B. B Green's Reverla c —t a k en 1000 to 20 agst Mr. Cooper's Slug—taken. THE WESLEYAN METHODISTS.—OH Sunday the annual camp meeting of the City of London Primitive Christians was held on the vacant plot of ground situate between Vlictoria- street and ClerLin,ell-green. The meeting commenced at lone o'clock in the morning, and continued throughout the day till a lute hour in the evening. Prayers, sermons, and hymns followed each other without any intermission, PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS TELLERS. Tufncll, H. 11111, Lard Marcus MINORITY-NOES, 14. Aglionby, H. Hume, Joseph Wakley, Thomas Collett, John iWTaggart, Sir J. Williams, W. Currie, R. Molesworth, Sir W. D'Eyncourt, T. Osborne, Ralph TILLERS. Escott, Bickham Roebuck, J. A. Philips, Mark Ewart, William Thornely, Thomas Horsman, E. MAJORITY _AYES, IS. ,eland, Sir T. Gore, Montague .Newdegate, C. N. Adderley, C. B. Goulburn, Henry Nicholl, John Antrobus, Edmund Graham, Sir Jame, Norreys, Lord I Austen, Colonel Grey, Sir G. Norreys, Sir D. Heine, Walter Grogan, E. O'Brien, A. S. Bannerman, A. Grosvenor. Lord R. Ossuiston, Lord liateson, Thomas Halford, iir 11. Palmerston, VlB. Bennet, Philip Ilailyburton, Lord Parker. John Bentinck, Lord G. Halsey, T. P. Patten, J. W. Bentinek, Lord H. Hamilton, J. H. Philipps, Sir R. Berkeley, Captain Hamilton, G. A. Plumridge, Captain Bernal, Ralph Hamilton, Lord l3lackburne, J. I. Hatton, Captain C. Price, Sir Rober t Pro, E. Borthwick, Peter H awes, Benjamin Reid, Colonel Bowles, Admiral Henley, J. W. Rendlesham, Broadley, H. H er b ert, Sydney Rich ,He y ILord henry Carew, Charles Hil dyard, T. B. Richards. Carew, W. P. Hill , Lord E. Round, C Richard . G. Chaplin, W. J. Ilobhouse, Sir J. Russell, Lord John Chohnondeley, H. Hop e , Al exan d er Russell, Lord C. Clerk Sir George H owar d , H enry Russell, J. D. Clive, Viscount Inglis, Sir R. H. Rutherfurd, A. Codrington, Sir W. Jervis, Sir John Seymour, Lord Colebrooke, Sir T. Ramble, H.: Sheridan, It. B. Craig, W. G. Laboachere, Henry BsB s poomomn i : t ee h urre,s,r.eßi,itineLvicurs.hiradri 1 Ida , . W. Crippe, William Langston, J. 11 Dahneny, Lord Law, C. E. Deedes, W. Lefroy, Anthony Denison, J. E. Legh, G. C. Stuart, John Dick, Q. Le Marchant,'Sir D. Strutt, Edward Dickinson, F. F.' Lemon, Sir Charles Tolle.nache, John Duckworth, Sir J. Liddell, H. T. Towneley, John Dunslas, Admiral Lowther', Colonel Tyrrell, Sir J. T. Halides, Sir David Macaulay, T. B. Du Pre, C. G. M a i nwar i ng , T. Vivian, J. E. East, Sir J. B. M ann ers, Lord C. W'i'se, ll. Walpole, S. H. Easthope, Sir John 3lrule, Fox Ward, G. y Egerton, W. T. Meynell, Captain Wood, SiSr Charles Ellice, Edward Mil es , P. W. S. Wortle, J. S. Evans, Sir De Lacy 310-peth, Viscount Wynn, C. W. Ferguson, Sir R. Morris, David Fitztnaurice; W. Mundy, E. Miller Frewen, C. H. Neeld, Joseph TELLERS. Tufnell, Henry Fuller, A. E. Neville, Ralph Hill, Lord M. MINORITY—NOES, 2n15zt.0.1 Roebuck J. LAp.h. Aglionby, 11. A. Ewart, William Hi otherton, Joseph Forster, M. C I PY, Sir W. Hindley, C. Thornely T r Clements, Viscount Horsman, Edward T ' e awny, J. S. Currie, Raikes Humphery, Ald. Wakley, I'. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Molesworth, Sir W. Duncan, George Pattison, James Duncombe, T. Pechell, Captain Collett, T John Escott, Bickhast Philips, Mark Etwall, Ralph, Pryse, Frye Second Clause (Number of Lords Spiritual not to be in creased) :"—Moticn made, and Question put, " Th a t t h e Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill." The Committee divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 111. Acheson, Viscount E wart, William Norreys, Sir D. Acland, Sir T. Ferguson, Colonel O'Brien, A. Stafford Aglionby, 11. A. Ferkiason, Sir R. O'Connell, M. J. Anson, Colonel Forster, Matthew Ossulton, Lord Antrobus, Edmund Frewen, C. 11. Packe, C. W. Baltic, Walter Gibson, T. M. Palmerston, yiscoun , Bannerman, A. Gore, Montague Parker, John Bentinck, Lord G. Grey, Sir G. Philipps, Sir R. Bentinck, Lord H. Grosvenor, Lord R. Price, Sir R. Berkeley, Captain Hallyburton, Lord Pryse, Pryso Bernal, Ralph Hamilton, Lord C. Repton, G. W. Blackstone, W. S. Hustle, Archibald Ricardo, J. L. Borthwick, P. Hatton, Captain Rich, Henry Bouverie, E. P. Hawes, Benj. Richards, Richard Bowles, Admiral Hindley, Charles Ross, David R. Bramston, T. W Hobhouse, Sir John Russell, Lord J. Brotherton, J. Hodgson, F. Russell, Lord C. Brown, W. Hope, A. Russell, J. D. Buller, Charles Howard, Henry Rutherford, A. Ilyng, G. S. Hume, Joseph Seymer, H. K. Cavendish, C. C. Jervis, Sir John Seymour, Sir H. B. Cholmondeley, H. Jocelyn, Vi scoun t Shell, H. L. Clive, Viscount l i .l bo nib u l e e ile H re e , n ii r Henry Shelburne, Sherid a n, R. B. Shelburne, Earl:of cm e h roo k,, Si r T . Collins, William Langston, J. H. Smith, Vernon Coivile, C. It. Lascelies, W. S. Somerville, Sir W. Cowper, W F. Lefroy, Anthony Strutt, Edward Craig, W. G. Le Marchant, Sir D. Thornely, T. Dalmeny, Lord Lemon, Sir C. Townely, John Denison, J. E. Macaulay, T. Troubridge, Sir E. Duncan, George Mainwaring, T. Ward, H. G. Dundas, Admiral Maule, Fox Wellesley, Lord C, Dundas,i.Sir David Meyneli, Captain Williams , W. Du Pre, C. G. Morpeth, Viscount Wilshere, T. W. East, Sir J. B. Morris, David Wood, :sir Charles Easthope,'"Sir J. Mundy, E. M. TELLEAS. Egerton, W. T. Newry, Viscount Tulnell. 11. Etwall, Ralph .I,.Zorreys, Lord Hill, Lord Marcus MINORITY—NoEs, 57. Adderley, C. B. Farrel, Sir E. Lindsay, Colonel Archdall, Captain Fitzmzurice, W. Bateson, Thomas Fol ester, G. C. Neeld, Joseph Bennet, Philip Fuller, A. E. Blackburne, J. I. Gaskell, J. M. Neville. R. - Tle ate, C. N. Boldero, Henry Goulburn Henry l'" g Nichol], John Broadley, H. Graham, Sir J. J. W. Buller, Sir Y. Raiford, Sir Henry Patten, Reid. Colonel Carew, W. H. Pole Halsey, T. P. Clements, Viscount Hamilton, J. H. Round, C. Clerk, ShIG. Hamilton, G. A. Spooner, R. Clifton, J.:T. Henley, J. W. Stuart, J. Miles,3 f ann e Philipr Manners, Tollemache. J. Codrington, Sir IV. Herbert, Sidney Tyrrell, Sir J. Curry, H. Ilildyarcl, I'. B. Iforsman, Edward Vivian. J. E. Grippe, William llill, Lord E. lv S. . Deedes, W. Hope, G. W: VYse, Ho ward Dickinson, F. H. Duckworth, Sir J. Hotham, Lord Law, Hon, E. C. Duncombe, 0. Inglis, Sir It. Egerton, Sir P. Leah, G. C. Wortley, S. Walpole, E L S L p E e m s n c . e r NIGHT BALI ASCENTS AT 4 j VAU XHALL GARDENS. TO THE EDIT OR OF THE sSUN. SIR,—I have bee n a li ttle surprised to find thatwhilst the denunciati ons aga i nst the night balloon exhibitions ON at Vauxhall-gard ens h ave been dealt out with emph at been ic and unmerciful ene rgy , yet that little labour has statements bestowed in endeavouring to convince the understanding by adducing facts in corroboration of positive and weighty charges. The case to my own r?ih.d. seem ing ing simply to resolve itself into this—that a b 11 ° 19a inanimate and things, became injured durin g a storm of thunder the air, as well as several moving mortals an dba lloon which lightning on Tuesday week last. The happened between heaven and earth, seems so e he thought, contemplate, that one is apt to tremble at of the and to be' loud in outcry against the repetition unpre hazard ; but since this misfortune is pretty wellbe brought cedented and remarkable, few mishaps n e a .., the air at forward to show the danger of a voyage " in attempt to night. As well, I humbly presume, disaster , horrible to all of these or sit still, because persons, in one _ n o g, i or subjected positions, hare been struck with lightning, Sir, I did demonstrate that it is . perilous fouloliegryht'r'wto walk, ride, in consequence to a narrow escape:n Arms had turned expect that as one of our brethren follyor l ess acquainted way, he styled himself originally more that we should have Queen's evidence and admitted his l ( with the principles of aerostation), elid reasons and seen specified something like a few solid in the esti interesting statistics to clear up the ni t a the shadow of a mation of the scientific world withoube though, by the impossible, for, doubt. But this, Sir, I believe with fireworks although a vast number of niglitascents forty years, few have been made during the past not more than acci dents have attended them, and certainly one or two of a fatal character. of a night ascent m a d e Feelin g conv i nce d o f t h e safety of the press at ge ntlemen the p resence of several Vaux hall, th at I would accorapsny. the correctnes s o f a join i n t h e h onour o f di s proving under fair and f avoura ble c ircumstances, I promi se d, i n host of ung ene rous insinuations which have b een pro appeared on the Waterloo pagated. Accordingly Thursday u u r n s d d a b y e evening before i a n n g immense assemblage of distinguished visitors, practical philosophers , sir, hors, and eminent men, on with pride do I say II amidst a roar of hearty it, we ascended majestically, fireworks with safety and satis - cheers, displaying th e dto the delight of every per sonfaction, and finally returned without a scratch, a bruise, was performed coolly and one fact is worth a thousand or the least casualty. volumes of predictions, I hope you arguments or three arks i n the publicity, for they record will give these hasty rem on of the press had not portion and when thousands in ceased to thunder its celitsu hear of a fatal termination to consequence expected to hear Sir, your obedient servant, I remain, successfullya n tro aut i c when achievement some thatorti a pleasing sight.— HENRY COXWELL. The long talked of sale by auction of Sh a k spere ' s house at S tra tf or d- on -Avon is this day announced in our columns, by Mr. Robins, who has been selected by th e of th e in a h a p py representatives of the late owner for the proud distinc tion of transferring this singularly interesting pr o p erty to a new p ro p r i e t or . A wide field is offered to th e auc tioneer to i n d u l ge i n " fancy's Sketch;" thestyl e advertisement i s , i n our opinion, written spirit, and we have no doubt the description. about to be opportunely discovered, a published of this unique property will be interesting to everybody. mg, at four o'clock, . ALARMING FIRE AT PlMLlCO.—Yesterday morn ing, and had it notfire broke out at 73, Vauxhall Bridge-road, Pimlico, in the occupation of Mr. were loss of life would doubtless have taken place. It com menced under the stairs in the kitchen, and rapidly an been a 1 a s r o m ir . g extended to the top of the house. The' engines of the London Brigade and West of England Company prompt in their attendance, and the firemen having set to work most vigorously, they soon got .. the ! Mastery over the flames. The damage done by fire and water, holy o'er, is considerable. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons.) MONDAY, JULY 19. BISHOPRIC OF MAXCHESTRR, &c., BILL. (IN THE COMMITTEE.) Preamble, p. 2, lines 1 and 2 ; Amendment proposed, to leave out the words " and for establishing forthwith a bishopric of Manchester:" —Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Preamble." The Committee divided : MAJORITY —AYES, 86. Acheson, Viscount Goulburn, Henry Parker, John Adderley, C. B. Graham, Sir James Pennant,'Colonel Anson, Colonel Grey, Sir George Philipps, Sir R. Baring, W. B. Grogan, Edward Poulin, F. Bennet, P. Hallyburton, Lord Price, Sir R. Bentinck, Lord G. Hamilton, G. A. Pryse, Pryse Blackburne, J. I. Hatton, Captain Richards, Richard Blackstone, W. Hawes, B. Round, C. G. Blakemore, R. Ileathcote, G. J. Russell, Lord J. Borthwick, Peter Henley, J. W. Rutherford, A. Bowles, Admiral llildyard, T. B. T. Seymer, Ilenry Ker Brarnston, T. W. Hope, A. Sheridan, R. B. Esown, W. Howard, Henry Somerville, Sir W. Buller, Charles Jermyn, Earl Spooner, Richard Chohnondeley, N. Jervis, Sir John Stuart, J. Clerk Sir G. Kemble, H. Troubridge, ;Sir E. Clive, Vise., Lascelles, W. S. Turner, E. Colvile, C. R. : Law, C. E. Tyrrell, Sir J. Craig, W. G. Lefroy, A. Vyse, R. 11. R. H. Cripps, W. Denison, J. E. Dickinson, F. H. Macaulay, , H T on B . .Col. I W lll l a l rp k do e ,l r ii ß .SG ic .. h u ar . d Mainwaring,,T. Duncembe, 0. Manic, Fox Wood, Sir Charles Dundas, Admiral Milnes, R. Monckton Wood, Colonel T, Dundas, Sir D. hlorpeth, Viscount Wortley, J. S. East, Sir J. Morris, David Wynn, C. W. Etwall, Ralph Neville, Ralph Ifireater, G. CI Newdegato, N. Frewen, C. 11. Nichol', J. Gaskell, J. M. O'Brien, A. S. First Clause (Repeal of repugnant Enactments, and power of former Acts extended to this Act): —Motion made, and Question put, " That the Clause as amended, stand part of the Bill." The Committee divided:— FINSBURY. On Saturday last the following address, signed by upwards of 1,000 electors of Finsbury, was presented to Messrs. Duncombe and Wakley:— "TO THOMAS SLINGSBY DUNCOMBE AND THOMAS WAKLEY, ESQRS, " We, the undersigned electors; of the borough of Finsbury, having now for many years had the benefit cif your services as oar representatives in Parliament, and being desirous of marking our unsolicited approval of your past conduct, hereby request you to allow us, without any interference on your part, to take all ne cessary steps to secure your return at the next general election." Messrs. Duncombe and Wakley yesterday returned the following answer:— " TO THE ELECTORS OF THE BOROUGH OF FINSBURY. "Gentlemen,—We are much gratified by the receipt of a requisition, so numerously and respectably signed as that which we have this day the honour of acknow ledging. Be assured that it is not only most satisfac tory to us to find our past political conduct marked by your unsolicited approval,' but that, so long as we are sustained by such honourable and independent proofs of your confidence, we must feel proud of continuing your representatives in Parliament. "In obedience, therefore, to your wishes, we leave the result in your hands, hoping that the example you have placed before the electors of this country may exercise a powerful influence on other independent constituencies. "Permit us to add, that the recollection of your past and present generous approval of our labours and in tentions can never be obliterated from our minds.—We have the honour to be, Gentlemen, your obedient and faithful servants, " THOMAS S. DUNCOMBE. "THOMAS WAKLEY. " July 19th, 1847." MARYLEBONE ELECTION.—THE BALLOT. The ballot to decide between Lord Dudley Stuart, Mr. Daniel Whittle Harvey, and Sergeant Shee, took place in accordance with the arrangements which we gave in our paper of yesterday, at Captain Hall's Riding-rooms, Albany -street. It commenced at nine, and terminated at eight P.M., and was attended by no difficulty during the day, though several complaints were heard that letters had not been sent to all the electors. The neigh bourhood during the day exhibited the general features of electioneering excitement. At eight o'clock the doors were closed, and the ballot-boxes removed to un dergo the scrutiny of Messrs. Birkbeck, Everest, and Ridge, who had been appointed as independent parties. Four hours were occupied in this, during which several hundred electors waited with great anxiety inside, while the street was crowded with hundreds more, who were temporarily excluded. At twelve o'clock the candidates and committee entered, and Mr. J. Williams (chairman of the committee of Mr. D. W. Harvey) having been called to the chair, the following result was announced amidst tremendous cheers:— Sergeant Shoe Lord D. Stuart 1,250 Mr. D. W. Harvey The doors were then opened, and a general rush soon increased the number of those present to upwards of 2,000, when Mr. D. W. HARVEY rose to address them amidst thunders of applause. Ho said that in the early stages of the arrangement some controversy had taken place as to the position in which the candidates names should be inserted upon the card. He had asked to be placed last, under the full conviction that the result of the ballot would place him first—(Applause) --and this had been realised beyond his most sanguine expectations ; and gratifying as the result must be to the friends of sincere and unequivocal reform, there was a result connected with it even greater than that which had been attained. With all the newness of an experiment, and though the management of it was given to persons who it could scarcely be expected could entirely divest themselves of the character of partisans, they had had the great fact established, that the ballot was a system which could be well conducted—(Great cheering) —and that when it should be reduced to a system it would be an admirable one. At the same time there had been evinced through out the ballot a feeling, which he ventured to express, when giving as his opinion to the great meetings of the constituency, of the desirableness of this kind of voting, that he considered it more valuable and essential to small constituencies than to one like Marylebone, whose independence was not to be assailed by any means from any quarter. It was a remarkable fact that the greater number of cards placed in the boxes bad been with exultation exhibited to all around, so little were the electors of this great borough disposed to conceal their inclinations.—(Cheers.) But though they had se cured the victory, they ought not to make it—he trusted they would not make it—a matter of boast. It had been a course adopted by friends to decide the pretensions of candidates, who, however they might differ in the differ ent degrees and views they entertained of reform, were sincerely anxious for its support and promotion. It was, therefore, for the welfare of the common cause of all that they should now labour conjointly in it. Unless the support of the others was now given, and they strove together for common principles, they would only have to look forward to bickerings and strife, which would defeat the end they all had in view, and they would have to take on themselves the shame of their indiscretion. H e therefore hoped, from this time, that all the electors who had embraced the cause of the Noble Lord and the Learned Sergeant would give them the same assistance in their cause as they would have done had fortune been on the other side.—(Cheers.) So anxious was he for the advancement of the great cause which this borough had served to-day beyond all example, that he should not suffer any views of personal ambition to interfere with the principle.—(Hear.) But he could not suppose that the disposition which had b een displayed could be taken as anything but a lartilci of Dimon for the L ST. LUCIA. His Excellency the Governor has further directed that the following extract and dispatch from the Secretary of State be made public. By command, W. 'HANLEY, Colonial Secretary. (EXTRACT.) " Saint Lucia, 1 No. 20. I "Downing-street, March 16, 1847. " Sir,—l have received your dispatches of the dates and numbers noted in the margin (Nos. 6 and 7, 12th and 20th Jan., 1847), with their several enclosures, relating to the conduct of the Chief Justice and the Attorney- General of Saint Lucia. " I have to acquaint you, in answer, that none of the public servants in St.. Lucia can be permitted to retain offices which they hold during her Majesty's pleasure, if it should appear that they have been in any way parties to the publication of the gross libels which have been published in the Independent Press, or even if they should be shown to have been concerned in a paper in which such articles were inserted. To allow any persons holding such offices thus to countenance and support such systematic attacks upon the person administering the Government, would be entirely inconsistent with the maintenance of that official subordination which is essential for the good of the public service. But this observation applies with much greater force to per sons holding such high offices in the administration of justice as those of Chief Justice and Attorney-General. It is their duty to enforce the law, and, as part of it. the law of libel. It is, therefore, a most flagrant violation of that duty that they should themselves con tribute at all to a newspaper, which the one might so probably be required to prosecute, and the other to try for libel ; and if it could be proved that they, or either of them, had been authors of some of the worst libels, this would, of course, be a great aggravation of the offence. " The charges brought against these officers being thus of so grave a character, I have to instruct you to proceed with the least practicable delay to Saint Lucia, and to institute an inquiry into their truth. If, after having called upon Messrs. Reddie and Atthill for their defence, and heard what they have to allege, you do not find that they can exculpate themselves from the charge of having had connexion with the paper in question, you will at once suspend them from their offices, transmit ting to me a full report of your proceedings. " You will consider these instructions as equally ap plicable to the conduct of Mr. Leuger, the second Puisne Judge. " Governor Reid, &c., &c., &c." (True copy.) (Signed) ROBERT KAY, Private Secretary. (True copy.) - W. lIANLEY, Col. Sec. and Treas. " Saint Lucia, Z No. 29. 1 " Downing-street, April 13, 1847. " have received your dispatches of the dates and numbers noted in the margin (Nos. 1.. 1 ‘; 18, 22, and 24; 4th, Bth, 9th, and 10th Feb.) further relative to the conduct of the Chief Justice, the Attorney-General, and the second Puisne Judge of St. Lucia. " I have to refer you to the dispatch (No. 20, of the 16th March) which I have already addressed to you on this subject. " The additional papers now transmitted have not appeared to me to call for any modification of the in structions contained in that dispatch. Referring, how ever, to the renewed demand of Mr. Reddie, that the proposed inquiry should be conducted according to judicial forms, I have to observe, that public officers to whom it is imputed that they have been abetting a f...cur rilous newspaper in libelling the officer administering the Government, are not to suppose that no notice can be taken of such conduct, unless the charge can be substantiated against them in the same manner as would be necessary in the case of a criminal charge brought against an individual in a court of law. "Public officers upon whom such an imputation is made may properly be called upon to deny its truth ; and if they refuse to do so, or fail to exculpate them selves, their removal must be the consequence. " I have, &c., (Signed) " Goversor Reid, &c., &c." (True copy.) (Signed) ROBERT KAY, Private Sec. (True copy.) W. HANLEY, Col. Sec. and Treasurer. " GREY. GOVERNOR REID AND THE ST. LUCIA JOURNALS. his suspension from Thurs day, Governor Reid makes known . e having office of her Majesty's Attorney-General, n the (false) charges r In an Extraordinaru Gazette, published last . ... C lonel Torrens ; brought against him by L exculpate himself from the and Governor Reid, t failed to exculpate himself ieu f t r e o e rn amt. 0 impartiality, thought i t c h h e ar t g as e k o the same time, and through it expedient to publish_t.ea instructions of her Majesty's [ the same channel, h directing him to inquire into the Secretary of State t t o y b , y to h e i s m ecut e superior—hasw it h ifmwpaons want d o foe: capacity, st truth or falsehood of the charge s advanced by Lie u t enant- again the judges an d the law officer Colonel Torrens of the Crown. Without inquiry this Governor has pronounced his opinion; but it is only necessary to read the three notices put forth by Governor Reid, to be convinced that his want of integrity and narrow mind have made him a ready instrument in the hands of Lieutenant -Colonel es iienehdahbiistantsofSt. inordinate vanity Lucia Torrens, to be used f or t h e gratification of his more than wwomanish l dspite t cao%in isetentdho to e to the top of his bent. The suspension of Mr. AttornPy-G A led to th e promotion of the newly-appo enera l inted So tthilllici hr- General, M a ll et Paret, to that office:—and the Officer administering the Government has given another proof of his escape from the trammels prepared for him by his predecessor Lieutenant -Colonel Torrens, and his dis regard of the known bias of his immediate Chief in Bar badoes—when suc h bi as would interfere with the proper exercise of his di scret i on to nominate to office, und er his administration. ne rat is advan hiGsiendependence as a Mr. St. M art i n, w h om L i eutenant -C o l one l Hay has selected for th e o ff ice o f S o li c i tor General! known i n th e co l on y for: member of the bar as well as in private capacity. It ball, shortly after rrival here, successf u ll y Lieutenant-Colonel Torrens' a i w ic ithbis friend, M r . Justice Leuger, as stewards of was this gentleman who, conjei s n h p t resisted the tyrannicalhe s ociety of Castries certa i n per _ attempt of illbs Lieutenant-Colonel Torrens to force on t SODS w hose ful resistance that earned for Mr. L euger the success C I hate of the Lieutenant- o onel and Mrs. presence was objectionable, and it w as t hi s inveterate Torrens. It w ay Mr. St. Martin, also, wh o so perseveringly exposed all the adsurdity of the law, and its equally absurd administration, during the persecution to which he was exposed, as the owner of the dog " Picard"— relativc to the metal collar, so pertinaciously insisted upon by the newly- appo i nted Commissary of Police, Zuhlcke. But Mr. St. Martin is yet better known for the acumen ho has always displayed in criticising the various Laws and ordinances issued by our very incapable Legislative Council. His appointment, therefore, to an office which will give him the opportunity of practically carrying out his own views, and exercising his facility talents as a law-mak er, w ill secure for our laws henceforth form, that precision of l anguage and technical correctne ss o on which dep en d s , certa i nty of interpretation , — B9cl ~..._ nc ".....-- 4 :-- -t- ' . • SUSPENSION OF THE CHIEF JUSTICE AND SECOND PUISNE JUDGE OF ST. LUCIA. By an arrival from St. Lucia, on Thursday, we have received a file of the Palladium, of the 24th ultimo. This paper contains the official notification of the sus pension of Chief Justice Reddie, and of Mr. Leug er , the Second Puisne Judge of the Royal Court. The notice of the Chief Justice's suspension is in the fol lowing words:— Chief Justice Reddie, Judge of the Royal Court of this island, having been charged by Colonel Torrens, whilst in the administration of the government of St. Lucia, with the authorship of two letters, signed " The Shade of Polycarp," published in the Jade pedal! Press newspaper, and which are libels upon the Lord Bishop of the diocese, and the Chief Justice having been called upon to make his defence in writing, has not satisfactorily d isproved the above charge, nor exculpated himself from having had any connexion with the paper in question. Ilts Excellency the Governor-in-Chief does, therefore, and in consequence of instructions from her Majesty's go vernment, suspend him from the office of Chief Justice of the Island of St. Lucia, until her Majesty's further pleasure be known. Mr. Leuger's suspension is given as folllows : Mr. Leuger, Second Puisne Judge, having been charged by Colonel Torrens, with the authorship of a series of shamefully scurrilou s French articles, which appeared in _ r The Indep en d ent P ress newspaper of this Island, and M . Leuger, having refused to deny the charge or to exculpate. himself , his Excellenc y the Governor-in- Chief, in consequence of instruc tions from her M - jesty's Government, has suspended him his sa B Lucia, oth until t h e herse individuals Majesty's fu rther embarkedp l pleasure s u forre bek r n hoo Eng l a nd of Second Puisne Judge of the Royal fro m Court f ° St. ee known. Tuesday morning, per Eagle, proceeding to St It is remarkable that Mr. Reddie has been LuspeT333(l:l. for his " Polycarp" libels against the Bishop, and (as may be seen by the Martinique Al manac ) , he, l e f t S t. Lucia on the festival of St. Polycarp, the 27th April! The Solicitor-General, the Hon. Louis Lacaze, has been named in the place of Judge Reddie, until her Majesty's pleasure be known. The situation was offered, we understand, to Mr. Hanley, but he declined, preferring to await the chance of being permanently named from home, rather than risk the humiliation of possibly only holding the office for two months provisionally. The Governor-General left St. Lucia on Saturday night, at ten o'clock. The island was enjoying beautiful crop weather, and every one seemed to breathe a new air now that the great Rhadamanthus is gone!—Grenada Chronicle, May 1. (From the Independent Press.) Government Office, May 27, 1847. J. G. Porter Atthill, Esq., Attorney-General of this Island, having been charged by Colonel Torrens, whilst administering the government, with being concerned in libelling the Government through the medium of the Independent Press newspaper ; and having been called upon, and had one month to exculpate himself, and having failed to do so, his Excellency the Governor-in.. Chief, in conformity to instructions from her Majesty's Government, does therefore suspend him from the office of Attorney-General until her Majesty's further pleasure be known. I