The Sun. — London, England, 1811-01-18 00:00:00

. . • I , . . Mr.- Ttattrsair ebamc • . 4 cldiment to tree''. t.I • that the Illghi H o n. Oentleman was uniform in Ins , a ~. 1. enctites._ dints, as v, ell in his vet-eh-es asin w i te ts w n: ,.s. ;,) , . re. cisely The flourish which he had just m fr---,ond in a '-SPeeo of similar to nne"whirli would be Mr, Pitt's in the Parliamentary Gentleman Ret•iiter for 1 75 9 • 1 He could not allow that the Right Hon. ..,,,. Was so tlis l nterest•_•d as 1 expecta- he p o r i o e fe n s a s t e t tl eri t n o g he. '1 h... Right Hon. Gentleman, with . re i return to Lion that he might at some flittl ~''thin in-, ih,buld. lotts . that all the good tit g Powerw'was aox '„n that occasion.. be preserved for, hilD,to gitre.away,. = Newport, re- JO answer to a question from bir J. lathe'' to•the,lrish Pension List, . • The CHANcELLea of. the EXiCtHhEeO..U. ould • be that in a substquent clause -A) i. grants E il ß i v‘ o , bserved, 1 made by . found aprovisinti for continuing , . the Regent, unless positively a resci‘ tided by the Crown. • The blanks in the clan,e before the Committee were.then tilled up according to the proposition of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. .01 - nt•e of the Regent In thectauserequiring to b e si in Oreat ~,ritain, 11! „,lancejloi, of ate • n : the•.resineArnendment was t, tee on the motion of hed u e l , ii . ) the Uni e Excl)equer, substituting the Kingdom, of Great Britain and u ca .procet ded d m. Ireland, ,, The The CllAtiCul.l.o4 of the Ext.:mo. the clause, to call th e attention of the Commit teu IQ , ~. respeaing the household. It hat, ttaa been thiPwOl ble exgtly to coiled the sentirnents°,of tehreawl.onrmtheer Committee upon this s wirel, he I . ad 1 to the clause in bIICII a manner as to leave it introduCttoti of any Atneodments: th at open the first ; present. Conimitte ' lit think expedient. , Fl3‘lng- ' 'Mg I ' k '' Iti lie had.stated. 911eiEd the wprc s ti. the iteso.u,.on, that the general power over ; the hoose , . con, hold i , hould be " e med in the a,,,,,, with certain excel, i was to he afterwanift introdneed. , This vatement .. . . iv:comp:Wed wi th a pliniso Lila the officers _l9lltoet loft under the contrnol of her Maje.sty „ should . be 'removable; and that of I 1.10,e oifictirs not ena,, no .re-aP"'. Oared abut filet er;o n of his Majesty, h. Eie poititieDt tit take nia v e in case. of death. __, meant te cxcept trout her Majesty's apPoio.t44teP,s`. (tic. office of lit Chamberlain of his I.\lajes y i was btt:l4llld, whieb will now his ; but as rteoassary that there sho u ld he some otlicer at the head of the department which had been tipdyr the Luril Chamberlain, he meant to • pro- yose..,that the Vie,•.Chartaberlaitt should ,execute toe, duties of -the ehainhalain, 1 1 'was his hite'!ll9Jl '''‘``"' to ProPt, to r.ccept from her MaiestY's a_Pi-' t'illitueut, the cit-ntkroen and. Grooms ot , hi 3 AL - 3`11,)".' Ilett-t-llauther ; and also the Captain of 019. Yeoma n nt I %.' ' n .."...),„'4 L'l'4.l'"WfiGuard, aud the .Csiltain °_t, the ..,attk, oi'.uentletitert,Pethione'rs•, .He excepted the two latter, hecaus'e tie conceived !leers were nectlsary only that these Of 1 Le h's. Majesty's persona appearance in State; and'that, thereforo, Ina alp poi n t and volition' of them might, with great propriety, be transferrect,t6 the Regertt. The Equel ; li et, be the might be left as they were; bli..- it. any vacancies • occurred-, that they should not t'!" tilled up. 14 introduce He g bould be that als•o to Imo the elaiis t the satne limitation of time,name,l);e's Maly KlOOlllB, that had. keen introduced into -:7 other clauset. 1 it certainly w ottld not be right it.' P"idin g for a heriol, which there was everY tea- , son to expett, might he shorter tlAakthreo inoPlos:i t° I hnit the poi ton of j.l;e •Hritasehold lb be pirated übtlet her Majesty's tlontrout so narrowly as ,ti. i niii,t b.,, exttetheot.lo limit 'it, Were that perl''cl-,10 'le of a mote extended tyure, . With this • it,..w '' , 'le ofd "propose that her Majesty Should il•ave the powv r of arpoi n 1 ing the VfeeCharriberpin ; that Jim Sltward or the Household should be Under the c"- tro u t i et her al 1 —aiestY,-wlio should ni,t hiie the i pp Wor „01„ ""log tbit o ff icer, but. re-appoirstitlg.t° the 7ic,,„e io ( Ile (nem of his death ; that the Mast-r of t he norm: 'clod the Groom of t ht.' Stole sit i otlal le also Orlderifie Cotitroul of 11,-1. Maio-sty,. tin - nigh o,li I . e. movable by her, and that. her Majesty Should hay, the power of. re-appoititing to those odic ( s in the . , eveht 01: tliQ &loath of the' present possessors, "('lies'' 9.1 k Ch Wer e at the head of large deart rnen,s (it tt''' zueseliold, and if it wits intended that tier Majesty ' should 1,,, th,,„.e.,)„40,,i 0i.,,,i tile domeitte house.. Bolt{ it was lieCessary that these great Otfieers' should knead4Ql)l,4ced iottor- lier corn rout. A Right t-ionotirable ot iti, iv' ; , -,•- kla'xr. (Canning) had inhinated ,aft a late fligot that, el ophijon these, higher Olflee.3 414461 with. propriety be •transterr d to the llegunt• „ ii , u ,, t I! ,viam•viiient that unless. a minute detail watt ',"'ere9, lino by which, .for a short period, .Perb4P!' toe pretent tirr4llgereent of the Household would bll broken itt upon, and a pew artangement, sub,ti- Litoi4 the varions departments must be left in a t clefeetive state, it thlinived Of the great OtTiCers ,„9.whoti they ware at present titaperimended,-7- rtg Ith reryeet 10 the dol t ee of state that would be ne" tlit4,l4tY for his Royal 1-lighriess the Princc of Wales,' ~,i t te &aot he was. sure that his, rti iii tf 11 Frien") 6 not 0 • "'ilooogh he did not. under -rate econotuyoUl- ;1440110a of e • I' •I forbade to gee a4t Lonturvy w tic, I tie th e twelve in aleans lit surrounding tilt itvgeoti for a,,°tll,ltietly with il Sell i 0 le establistunrnt, The non • , - ~-I'Nlattrient of, a Lord C ho nlbertani nut 11'13'49k:0y s 410414eh01d would afford a gond for the itl)P4"1"." fll itt.ll ii Lord Chamberlain for the, Regent. , .1 - le . ;1% 1 4 else propOse to give the Regent a Master of tiorse, 4 Steward of the Household, live or six nitt of the Bed-Chamber and twice as 'many tho'letnen of the Red,•Citaithber ; the saliirl4 of all. Which Officers added together, WOtilil not amount xClusively of the salary of the Lord Chamberlain), to a slam exceeding 10 or '2,0001. Novi re A l lY 1 hat 4PPta td to him to be a , consideration SO cesepara tively.otimportant,-that he did hot .conctye 1114 tilleCtirntnittee would hesitate a moment 'th aPP,T..?,,,i' Ilt ' t . l ig Neh a Seel to the purposes which he Wad tic in lie cortclu‘led, by mesh,(, `1'!,111 the blanks in ti: elatitteahould be filled itti in eePtl'rnitY I°' tile Pr°l)(l6tiort Which he had - b tr•-tt L i 0 the , ,last SU , lrll E. , eOillilliitee. n, IVIr•-Poictiorniv contendd' a that nothing' Could be i;weitvpotite to the-stiiitit'of the former Co' was,leth the Resolution respecting the liOnsebtlid, Pa4ed, than.the plan of the Right Hon, Gen ,' t alan4 'fit which every ottce Of iinportance ill the .I‘.!.t)9soltoltl. was to be tianStUitted to her.MajestYi 111"c:faille exception of those of ,gaptaill of th e Y4ti•F 44:11hts 1114jesty'4 Getliii, aed:Cavtaill of the.l3iMd tit•o!vt) kensioliefs. Anion g oi 1 wri, even the t' ihi7 :11 4445ttl 61 ' t11144444tE1l link k Hounds Watt lt,',.,nittited, 4,ll,:this: was, iti iiirect „coliaradie, ••,.. 14 the seitto : ot the t.liitr,,Qttruo.itic.e, ,whieb, 1 4 Ws opron.nt, SS, lii;iil all 'hale i..)l4ers which " •e were nectrienter , toile r tnhil>^ iftid'aplerelitl exercitte of the kingly Power i eshouldete placed at, the•die-. posal'ef . the Regent,. and that those 011icess:ttile were necessary to the:comfort and aecommodwion his Maj..tsty, Lshotill be Pla'C'ed at 'dis'pos'al of the ;Careen. A conrseetirectly the - rev - A - se of that gested by the Right tleit..Gentleotan ought to have been proposed; instead of yestine the power over the Hbuiehold geuer'dlv in het - AL -.\ epe;ty, and except- ing for the-R eg e nt the f ew tell:rs wluithe Right Ht n.Gentleman had excepted; the general ant hersty ought its have been vested in the Regent, Ark% the nete,sary ekceptions Made in lamer et' the Clue< l ll. In his oeinihn, the •Grooni ot the Stole was dee . of heOtlicers who Ought to tie placed under the ettritrOol of the Queen,- and who indeed mielo stand at the head of her Majesty's Household establish tnerite He Would add a certain number, of ,the Lersis and Gramm of the Bed-ehambet";' dit would add the Equerries ; he would add the inferior Offieers were necessarily attendant on the person ot his Ma- e jest y during Ins residence in any of his palaces; anti ' A l thrt) be had dime all this, he should thine th.,a he; hadllierly eie&tt echthe intentions of the Commii tee by which the-Reasertition on this sUbject 'was passed. Of what avail was the Master oft he Ilor‘e, or the: Lord Steward of the HeUselteld, or the' Lord Chain. betlain to his 'Mejesty in This preset - It sitnation'?--' Yet the Right Hon. Gentleman was.deshous that . by . the deprivation of these Wipers, the Regent shoal be dispoSsessed of till that pomp and Splen dour, which the Constitution contemplated aas ne cessary for the execution of the Regal funetitios; and fof the UriiritenaliCe of the digeity.' of the throne: His Majesty's indisposition, prevented hitn from appearing in public—front tneetiug his Par lienient-frOrte holding a Ceere , e:e. froin 'receiving .Foreign Ambasaadetsreall these Itnyat futtliiotei tweet be. performed by his Majesty's teptesentetive, the Regent, and he ought to be enabled to perforat there with suitable digeity.s " Whitt •se'as'elte opiniele of the people on this subjeet As' far as it , Ited been . expressed, in the l'etititnt-oFthe City of London . ,. {he ,Peteciwt Of Town .of Nottinglette, and in every other Petition that, had bee e preaeuecele—it "de clared that the Kingly power ought t it) nteComterred, on the Regent; niifettered. by any 1616,14 in, or lisitie tation, or climinotieu whettiver. - He objeCted to that part of the clause which precluded her Majesty from removing any of the odicera which might . h e left under her — centioul; eotnending that sech prohibitien would not 'carry into'effecte he intern inn ut parliarnep,r, in giving her Majesty aethority over those officers. The" Aintiedment which he should propose fo :the preposition of ihe,Right Hono.Gentlee wan, Would be in sUbstance as follows "'That a portion of' his Mrjeity's Household shall be placed underilte contraul ofher Majesty, 'vi z. Groom' ot the. Stole, the Master of the I tort:e, the Keeper of the Privy Purse, such- Lordl aiattentlenit.ni. of the licit-chamber as her Majesty may Please to sele:;I, his fsldjestyls,pierrt'esi and ail other Olficcri .may th porsnaliy attemlmit upon .his Majesty in Otis:dace in which he i, epos ]lt rriidttlt, That the Groom of the Stole shall have jut and au thority over all such Miters, similar to the juostlict ton stud authority that might h3ve been lawfully exersised.ovetthem by the late'. Lord Chaniberlain, and that may he lawfully ettercised over then at present by the Stevv,hd ot his Majci. ti's Household and the Master of the Horse. 'l,hat the .orooin of,the Stole shall provide 6very•ti:inv: that may he necessary for his Majesty during his hasps sition ; act that ferthal purpose he' shall have motley approprtale,! to his use, as has b*xii heretofore done to the use ot I,,rd berlain, the Steward.of his Atije., 3 's' HousAu.;fit, and tho Mester of Ow Horse." Such n plan aepeared into to ee perfectly and simple, and t i curry the , principto of the 1.1e,0- Lucian of the' forichti Committee int. exact execu tion. .The Right .440 n. Ge•n►leman mieht perhaps again attempt in appeal to , the passions of le cc Haw k ., with respeel the leeling4 of hie Majesty, when he sheuld 'awaken' feein Ails trance, and find that he ha\l hetm deprived by the present Perfemient of that, of whitth the Pailiament of . teety'did .not me:in to deprive him. If he cenceiied"that 'such would be the to flags of his Majesty, he shosild be as reluctant as ' the Right Honettraele, Gentleman to exeitte such ' `feelings ; but he , was incapable of uteterstatiding, hew a man, 'arrived - at rkt• reinality,. should be distressed nt finding that Par liament had .beitow4d on his lick Apparent, thait authority which tie; CooStitution 'considered bb inseparable from the Royal office; when: he found also that Atte' same Parliament had made careful provittion: tot his itnitiediate . re , umPticin 9 t power urh his restoration to health. Never woahl he believe that his Majesty entertained such a'bad opinicin'sof his faitlitel 'Co/unities as to'conc6ive'•iliat in 'what they did, they •had disregarded his rightse net coql he believe it possible, that should his Majesty kip' pity recover,' the 'contemplation of 'the litoceiet ingi cif Parliament would' again plunge hiMtrito the melanchloly situationin which he - is now involved. Mr..CANtifto trusted that Iteettould net / bieeon sidered as' on oecessardy. obieding to the et (onal tith litire of his Right Hon.. Friend, Or' es emit rvaltling the Aniendmeet of the Right Host. Gem leuein site,' if betere the COnnnittee entr . red into a di , ckei- Sion on then - writs of the two ptoposit low', he stiredd submit to them more itedetail Allan he had hide done, his openoti tin the subject. first r I ' ll `pie on ivitich till appeared to Agree \v;iq, that 'dun He tee lamentedilluessof his Maje s ty every 1.11,.. , 1,:idit his dotteenot sholy to detiote the tendet care 4:i!Wie of his subjects fur .his person, but also to erfeiel: his Mejea;y that degtee of splendour of which his' present Situation was capable. The itecOnd principle. was, .that 'whatever existed of fair political ittiluenee that could be transferred to' him, by. wilmn, use h:xe- cutive authority was to be ekerctited during' hip Ma jesty's incapacity, ought is be lodged in his' hauls rather fitan:in those of ally other individu d. His Ttigig Huct; Friend had'judged rihhtls ot s him, when he suptoo , ,ekt-th.it he Was prepared to uedervalnet the consideration of expeece, when pet in e , mparishn , With considerations 'a :greater imp atance; 11ot lie ciiuld:ncit 'agree in the Prophsttiou thet the 'R. gent Shbold have to separate establishment, Lit Otnieeted. with that ut his Majesty, It was itttiralely - plefer able that the Regent shoold appear in his telter'e -splendour rather than in his own. • He teit the dife ftegby of the sehject; Her had experienced that difficulty to teducing to shape his argil view Seoleti to biro, however, that,if the. , cere' 'Of the King's person Was lo bd entroStiet to her Maioity•,* she ought not to be - stripped: ot all - cilitronl veer the Household, althOugte it , woulie not be' neati•: iary to confide to bet -vent pelitleal poWereeind it wined, to'hhn, on the Other hand, that the peat tatP.,Ofitcrspf the crown.shoulii be plat:,:o at the e4,ispel l d at the flegeitt., . Tee Lard Chaattee late, lite .Aitateeof ,the purse, and the Lurd §tew:n‘d, to make parl of the State o( .the ttegerg„ . Thee a L t;,•iit: he thought that those 1)-Acerri, tut-re - , .*61y connected with the . - Perional set - Vice 4)f his , P,'; :testy, find. in the .sittiatiblior•Whotn, Itis,Mtljesty probably , be influenced by feelmes p i nslas to be left under the controur of her Ma ic•ry, that ott the. King's' awakening' iron) his trance, he riti4h!. fini St/trOtlntiecr by thern.. He w() , .11.4 t hetelore propose tH,at: Anietftipidtl to the Mier 1;t, word's specifpng : that a park,of Ibe Hodieho 51.ta11t4 be k y.cdd tinder the CtAtit earl 4)f .ber Majesty, a Passle to the following •ttleet ittivrx:l, • • ‘• he Horse to his tti, t jesty, the Ketlirtr of tire Prlvi 'the Gtoona of lite 'Stole; the ant G twins tit 111:: liee,-Cll3tlli)cr, the Captain Mac c0m.....11 of his Alijesty's Guard, the:Caw:or. of the ot aiuj gene4A,tly 311.041Q/K*lP talons (•.: d o tmenrs deader the Lo,d f)tetvaril, the Lora tot tth! ?4,qstetcol,titc . ilorst:, who itdvet t herio bi-xn ri.,.:noved by those. three Kreat 01 d,v.owsc ati,.-odame is iteeesiAry to etlaole tier Ma jest t ft) .•i...l);itAt: the 1 . 1U46 161)0Sea. in ht r, a m.l I;C plitved • , 11t , r Co'otrott I ; 'and t kit s.tell O dicers s ti,kl attend at his Majes4's royal re.ltiebt.e a;,theitewin.rg. That it sh , ll mot 1)11.w:tot tittring the contitotauce of this Act. to.temoVe .lite ':viasret °lithe-Max, the. Keeper of the Privy anti the Groom ot . the Stole, froot..their.,ol ric,:, sytpi on an adareiq front Parifonent, or a riiptietita fr..m.her .i11.,,je4 to the P,rince Resent tinder hOt-A(l4- jestirs.Stkr, fvfatt.i.tt. '1 hat Ito'v4c.,oley atiiing in airy Of the $3 .i4 otti:es,.tropi wziatev. - .,reani r e , prodir4d, should ft• EUP• 00,17 r meth rit.Or, except (Vtly in the otticei of Groom co the it.,le, and , Keeper of tittO Peivy tt; to sootild they ,bps.i l t vaant,, her Mojesty should-have the,posver ofJapptint With;rea ect to the tttfit.ersio thsv,irit,us depart r:ents,olthe Lord Steward, the. Lord Chumb;trlain, andithe Master iii the tiorse, placed' an detitte eoittroot ot het Matestypt 011)1 nut be lawful-to re- Inev.e such officers, except iu a jrepreoitionfruin her titst that tit sut,ll representation oC:l36cm:duet. the re. ttiovll slt4til be ve.emptory ) . taut the!. iii respezt to suet) thcers, hi the thr c j I,st-tnentrond depArtatetitS as arc not eqnitelte..t with the pers°Mil.ser vice nothiag in thi s Act shalt remove them front the cotirroul ut the heads of thow departments:" He proposed ? in the atiOve. Amendment, that Abel inferair Others of the Hoesehold, to be placed: :tinder 1.0 . Maje.sty'S contruul, shookd attend at his l‘kij'estV's 'Royal' residence, " and: *tV'w here," h e . 'cause t was very poSsible then, .during the con-; ii rmance of I,is Majesty's .:illness, it !might bet def Sirohie to anuou.i. e ot his, Al i)...3ty in a more, suleriun k , ay to his affectionate soteects, t ban, was provided ter in the Bill : for instance, it 'Might. b e expedient to direct" that a Gentleman and a Groom of the le i d-chaniher,should, once .a week ,:or o rit4 a fort niele, be present at St, Jittuei's, to, an 'saver allinqe:i.ries that blight itiAde.. By the pro. .pOsition wind) he hats just made, the Regent would be invested with the sidelidetir of Jtoyeity, and Nut ^lent controul would he lel:t to her Majesty' without recitie:ng 116' to 111...! tteessity . of"possemsing E ar)itie,d influence. the rice:print - I 'of the two ()bees. of Groom of: the Stole and Keeper. of the Pure, her Nlajesty would s posseis . no political pdwer ; she could otfice:wlnch could va- c eate e seat in .that: He objetted to . the pro. position of his Noble Friend, to create *a Lord Cielotherlain tor the Ri.geni, on. the principle that as t h e R eget it Was to . a represeptatiyee and not substantive power, he ought to be attended by his Attjesly's Chambe:htin, - arsd nOt by his own.: He was w(lling, hewever, to : .go us far as his Right I-lon,,,Priend in suppiiiig those otlicers which could not be spared ; such, for instance, as the Lords of itt lied-cliainevr.. BLit on. another point,:an .comil.ible..ditlerence.exi4ed betweeft.him and Iris li,s flight Hon. Friend thought that as this was a tempurary measure, it was better to .gik c larger pewers to her Majesty, with a view to, a subsequent revision ot those powers; if necessary. He, on the. contrary, I.Vll§ decidedly of opinion, that' it. would be infteitely more expedient at once to deteraiire upon the ortiCiPation of power beiWeert this Rq;ent and her• Majesty twhich, in'the event of a proloneat ion of rhi,. M.4,jesty'a illness, it might be expedient to continue. Lord CNiTLItItEAGII concurred . with the Right Gentlern - i •, who had jit.Cipoken, that what. ever might be the difficulty of the quest ion, it.ougMt to - ,be disposed 'of betore Ant. Regent as arced the. Government. fie slid not conceive that the.con• troul proposed to be Mil en to her Majesty over these ottiee,s . who were tO'be allotted to her, was suflis ...curet. Charged with such a delicate .trust, her 11(Lii,l , ty ought to be rut in possession of all the 'rte neceS , iary to 'eititb!e her to execute it. It was not ettioogb to lirovitle thAt the Otlic..th under her contw , ll :hl.rettiovable ott a representa tion to the Regent. Many cas,s might occur in whirl, an Otilcer might render hirnselt sufficiently obnoxi.ms Without atfording grounds for a Slim ti chair e. Lle was therefore decidedly of that whatever portion of the Household might he ;i i .pioialitte;.l to 'the Queen, her Majesty should en joy as ate:elate a CoutrOul'aver it as the King tiontd. He: objeeted also to the propOs:tion., of his !light Hon Friend, that soine.of the Officers of the Hocs-hold should not be reniovable by nor auttinti r iy. Jr tie , ila :y, h i nt I\l.stesty is at i t i'esent Atillittetl had OceurrePtotirs alter he•oscencl, ed they throne, haft Par:media at t hAt putio I rcecul. ed such a i‘ropoS'iti.ot as that made by ',l-fin, , l4':-;%..11:1, and li 4,1 -AI Sti:d eon -I,toll dui ing het, lite, the , e i ,(..ketkers, among st. ;min t • tlyu Pe,-13. and isi-onbers relli.t • Wtatilt,l It.tve COtiltOlJo 1 0 1,1t1,4, kng period, anti by eteichitig 111 , 411)SelVe5 "to a political patiy, ,have posiessed it very. untitw ,di,i,tppr. , yet.l strongly', 01 tiny ,special f o r thi, Re g ent, whom he wished 'to ibe accompanied by rott, not by peeuliar.State. On 11)6 ~t.Lwr haw' he objele4-10 .the .Project of tit 4 Hit to Ilitt Groom of the Stole.SUCh an extensive conit o ol over rite various derrt nts Of the Eiouse• bold. lie was convincer) that it would introdue a► cunt:wrap, into the. servic-, Ito it which it could never be esiricated. , was, lboevel', by 110 , DeCe., , Sitry. that dcp trt adaii• by tho Iteadkot them, as to deprive the Itegeut olt heir ,services. Ills, W?,4,."13 00 , F r i en d ILA the business of the .Lord Chinn might be trateeteted by the ',Vtcc-Citattibe.r. lai n.'ritere. was no Vice-Steward ; pt 'tettwMa, , ter of the lioise; but it w-uht be very easy_ to-reit tine ci niroid. .tlioSe..l4ep.trlineets ,t'cottil Of. • t titer ot e4co mete nivin4 th, c h ie f o l n eer to eolitrths..tte to tile tita:e 1,1 • .11.),AA 1 wishe:i to e\ ate . th e : Committee irOitt the ditheultio o ttlee r .ev i n t , etfett this, he proposeit th e Atn ,,, d ,,,,„ 01 wok:it - bad been it:oveit by hm , :. Right Hon, Gentle- I t' 1116: M:tiesty's I,ilisposttiott," and, th.it wtj'. di - ot the ' - I',olll shoold to the cut"! r ••• • • ' • • : v.( of that chine, fqr the prirpo..4 of . alding; worOf snniewhat sitnitar,:• but which might introdn6:t the propo.iion it! . another ItiOit ; doing this, he thought the ground would be'cleur.. /ua et • If 01 it t lic li . eqszo ',Bench.) Getlaemeti opim . ;ite :night lent o, but be was un. cOnseittus . ol, giving any cause for such. mirth. .He apiir9vaa, the trtuin', of , the Amendment of in* 'Hunimrp! . ll , yr 411,1, us he I hotfght the C l ause tlW' 'nSti: U ino:,osed. Lie won't' have, his 'Majesty's tion.;ehniti gwerned in a regular' man ner. He s6uld have (he Groom of 'the Stole placed' 'at the head of the and all the other Household (..)tfieers tinder his dire6tion; tr;C,,ittg (the : (ii•ouin of the Stoie) responcible the proper offices -for the sum oxittJitleti by these a -Ib,g der birn. the liropthition ::-.(t! • to e'..tricitte tl c 11«tft- train time dtifit uhi by ‘Ablcil they were enc6llllyi '.UCt, ON lit to b.. :14fort, (. 4 ,, it it w-re nut aduptet!„ lie sb.niti Iterc; , tter tike an o?- pot t nrift'y exptessint:; ininseX tm 'the 01 , Coa• slitutionni doarine'hich scats bcen la:d down, and the innovation m:tde on the constitution of kis Ma. jeit,>'s Househel:l,• ti's , 'deriaring the' l l e ; ;eilt petent ti) appoint a Lord Chantl.:-.:•:ain. I)!.rd 'hot a ci4e.r . conciit":on of `the busineis, and thought 1111111' el the Colvtiniteu would be calleditliou to vote" in ate . tLirk. /14 ; , ,rest intpreSsion vvtit made on his wind ti%e reticTtiott of whit it gilt he tile King's teeltnga on the I) , Abjtet ; andlie thought they might he jusiiiiul in 'making such arrangements as would be Most grateful to Ins feelings. The statements made on ,that jest, they had reagon . to nelieve,. had been made by tbosd to Whom his Majesty 6 ieebngs were bed known. Mr. FL ADDINGTON regretted that the hasty conduct of the House, in adopting a former Amend- • ment 'Moved by a Noble Loid, under the Gallery, had brought them now to a discussion on what quan tum of comfort and what quantum of splendour they should deal out to his Majesty, br rather of what.they should Icave• him In possessiotl. What would be the feelings of people, if the question could he pUt to them---'r Wu:it quanzity of servants drill we leaVe to•attend upon his ?"- He be lieved they would - answer almost with 'acclamation, Why, leave the whole." Five propositions were • now before the Cr;mmittee, arAi .doubted if they were properly tinderstood by any - of the Cirtrnit tee, bur,thase who brought them forward," If it were 'possible for hiM to be daz7Llecfbv the splendour o: a Regent, and 'if weary of :the tilesings . of a long reign, he mould pant for 'a . change, he stiOuld thinic it his dtity, an indispensable duty, net only to make every prozdaion neeesNary to his Majesty's. res.imp. lion of power icinnediatly on his recovery, but t,.) take care thit every eomtort it was in their pow 't to Impart should be afforded bun during hiatndis position._ . . The CILANCEt.i.OR of thd EXCltenAllta thought the difference of opinion which exfsted among those Gentlemen who had spoke, must he felt tisloroi s h. ing some excuse for his tailing to frame tile obtuse so as to please every one. He. begged to correct a mistake of a Right Him. Gentleman oppogite (Mr. Ponsonby);. who had uoderstood him to say that proposition ,war.. what he conceived was des:reit by the CoMmito e. What he had said was, that he had left o blank in which Gentle-nen might insert what should be right in the "eye of the Committee ; but .when be came to propose with what that blank should be filed up, he stated what he'(hiinsell) thought it ought to he filled up wish, sill keeping in view the former decision 'of the Committee. It had beervsaid the proposition he had submitted to them was, at mkt : nee with the arguments he , had 'made use of. This he could net help, fie had been driven to them by the sentiments of :he majority ,of a former night; and atter the decisions to which he alluded, he could not think of bringing a proposition exactly the same. kle 'begged to assure his Hon. and Learned Friend opposite (Mr. Adam), that when he had laughed in the course of his (Mr. 'Adam) speech, it was out of no disrespect, to him, but W acknowledged his (Mr. Adam) proposition did tx. cite in him Some .mirth, when Lie talked.ol clearing the way, as his plat; west fo clear his (the Chancel inr of the Exchequer). plan quite OM of ,the •way, without giving it its tore in common with theother propositions before the House. This, too, was' to be'effeeted in a very'criovenient way ; to 'snake two s Right Hon. Gehilemcn meet, who ditkred quite' as' couch from each other'as he did frbin both. He then proceeded - to 'take a' 'view of the propieiition of in-; Right Hon. Friend, than which, he really thought one snot e eXtravagant could hardly be submitted to . them. They. all knew theroweveloor Great (niters iii his Majesty's Houseisold,---the-tArd Steward,-*her' Master, of the Horse, and the Groom of the . Senile; could any thing be more extravagant than a repo sieon to place the Groom of the Stole nt 't be i , ead of the Whole ? Could ime thing that could be propostei he . more unlikely prBduce the eff, , ct which he. than a prOpmntitni Which went to makes - ;the GroOm of time S'io;e'responsible for the st. is of the , Scri`attt4 of the Lord Chamberlairi ? 'NdiThire coeld more extr.a%agarit, and he confi,lcotly it 1 d his tAkti .proptmottelli 'AUtikt , preteried Olie impracticable, in itself. His Right Honourable Fitettu's plan apprared to him more reasohgble though he could not ag r e e t o th at .. H e th oug h t • - we:stair to •pitiee the :; gueen in a situation Ile which she, tnust oirve out part of the establishntent as she desireki for '.herself. According to his own s - plan, the Lords and Gentlemen of the Bedchatnbisr would remain . as they were, aUtt the same IttlittillenlS woad be made to the public respeding time, state 01 his Alajesty"s health as at pri:isent. It was.not.,his intuntton that there should be but three'`nwahly aceounts of his, Majt-sty'a health. If they loiAed <it th e Bill, it woold Seen, that the Council Were to'be' assembled' an often to inquire into,the teal state of-thu King's health. 'The aentittenti of Ilia Noble Friend under the Gallery had great , oreight with him as to .On a periv.anent hlishinent, the evil likely to result trom her4l3- jesty's not having liower to remove any Officer, miget be great, hut tale evil.awhich they ate ilipited might be borne under a temporiry arrengetnent.— the atrangem , 2nt propoied were .forherMajesty's , , life, he should certatity Imo.: that tne,power . moving the -Officers of the 140trtetlOiti giVetl, though hi- did not feel it -, eccss try The itHp of the, Noble .Lord 'was., that • - Oltieet . s. should. Oa pieched to her M. the superior ooys were tranSferred the lit all t r ite plans beside his own be them , ' it tZ,e