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. . 'try few, the - rent Wi t rrferelk verbal et eon. sequential amendments, which, they observed, could occasion by no means, sogrear a delay as that al. lulled to by the Noble and Learned Lord.. The LOR U CII4NCELLOR supported what fell from his learned Friend, respecting the Amend ments which had been made, and the superior con. venience and expedition 01 - withdrawing The pre sent, and introducing a new one on the amended model. 'The-DaKE ARE NCE expreised-his appro: bation of what had fallen from the Noble and Learn ed Lords, and moved, That the Chairman do leave the Chair, and report. progress. , Lg . rd . GRE A:TILL Eexpressed his disapprobation of this proceeditig, on the grounds on &vhich he al :ready opposed the 'idea 'originally urged by the Noble and Learned Lead. afterwards, in a Speech of some length, in which he manifrsted his usual ability, adverted to the general principle and leading provisions of, the Bill, as originally intro. , &iced, both of which he vindicated with consider able elfeet, and panegyrised the labours of the Se. left Conortittee of their Lordships, which had pro. diteed a - meisure likely to be of ;such beneficill eotyequences as that before their Lordships. In the course of. the Noble Lord's observations on this point, he adverted to the grounds on which the framers of the Bill had.acted it was not on 'any of these foolish and .flippant doctrines which were so .incautiontly and frequently promulgated in the pre. sent day.; they took no Idle-theories for their guide, or any floating popular opinions, but were guided by sound and unerring experience ; and he prinei.' .. pally expressed his repugnance to any propositions tending to trench upon . legal Ecclesiastical Esta blishments, or any Measure for a,general Conunu.' talion for Ty then. Lord CAR kINGTON expressed his concurrence in the greater part of what had fallen from his Noble Friend who had spoken last: ' lle likewise explain -ed respeding the conduit of the Board of Agri . culture, with regard , to the Surveyors, in conse quence of some of their ,reports, which, to a certain di-gree, had been rather unfavourably alluded to by some of their Lordships in the course of the debate. Lord I?oMNEYekpressed his sentiments shortly, which seemed :for the roost part. to be similar to those. delivered by Lords CARRINGTON and GREN- VILLE. I llir Rqyal Ifigbiess the DUKE of CL ,fRENCE. , after so►ne farther conversation 'bad taken piacei agreed to withdraw his motion for the Citairthan's* leaving the chair. The various Clauses and Provisions of the Bill were then regularly proceeded with, and numerous Amendments,, which were proposed by Lord CAR- R rNoTov, were adopted by the Committee. On tl - e occasion of those ClaUses relating to the regulation of •Tythes,' &c. under the operation of the Bill, The LORD CHANCELLOR expressed his dis. approbation of the pro Pored regulations, as repug nant to the whole policy of the Law of the Land respecting Ecclesiastical Establishments, principally as they went to confer a power on the Incumbent without reference to the rights of the Patron or Or dinary ; and observed . , that when the debate upon such measure came regularly before the House, he thould have. to trouble their Loidship's an some length on those points. He then referred to cer. tam parts.of the reports of the Surveyors, of which he decidedly •expressal his disapprobation. Lord CARRINGTON, in explanation, stated his ideas respeCting the consideration of Tythe,. as it related,to the progress of . Agriculture, and. seemed to say, that what was suggestedby the Noble Lord was not intended , by : the framers of the Bill. Some Amendments reqeaing that Ha of the Bill'were, as we could c.bserve afterwards, made by the Corn- rnittee. The whole being gone through, the House re. stinted, and ordered the Report to be received to morrow. - 1 The Duke .of BEDFORD moved the names'of a *lumber of Peers to constitute the Committee order ed by the House to take its Standing Orders on Bills of Inclosure into consideration, and which list of Peers, as moved by the Noble Duke, was • ordered to form the Committee. The second reading of the Clerical Exclusion Bill was deferred until Friday. Their Lordships then disposed of some routine business, and adjourned till to-morrow, HOUSE OF CGMMONS. TUESDAY, JUNE 2. A Bill for granting 1 1 % , 1r. K.-oor I; a Patent formaking Paper from Straw, &c. was read a third time:and passed. A Message: froth the Lords stated, that . their Lordships had agreed to several Private Bills. t. . • A Person from the Post-Ottice presented several Accounts. The Report of the Committee ::.ppointed to consider of Kish Expirmg Laws, was brought,up several of the Re solutions were postponed, Ow rest were agreed to, and Bills were ordered to be brought thereon. Mr. WILL:A.cs i) t;tonns gave notice, that on Monday he should . Move for the Ilouse to resolve itself into a Commit tee, to- take into consideration the East-India Aix:mints pre sented on the. lith-of May. Lord Far.xyrorir., after commentini shortly upon. a 1 ' Pamphlet written to prove the improper praCtiees of Persons • in the Corn Trade, lave notice, that die. should on Monday move for leave: to bring in a Bill make: some regulations won the subject. Ila did not expect that at so late a pe riod of the Session, it could go through , both 1-louses ; his in tention therefore was,. with theliermission of the house, to bring in the have it .read a first tune and printed, and them that it should stand over toneit Sessions ; in flys. mean time - Gi;ntlerirn would have an• opportunity of considering the subjeet ma torelv. Mr. j 9Ngs ntuvij'for an Account ofthe Items of the sum of 2,6; 2,4 z set forth iii the Papers presented on the Bth of Mav, as a debt:due - from the Government to the East-India Company hi:intended to have made the Motion yesterday,. but Gentlemen on the othe.r.side- of the House did not attend in their places. - • • Mr. WILLL4M DUND4S said he no ohjeaion to the produaion of tit;: Paper in question, but It was. rather'Singo;• lar.to Charge Gentleni;:n on his (Mr. - W. Du:4)A 5 , 5) side of House With not attending their duty in Parlianient. 'The Motion was then agreed to. The Report of Lady ARE a caon.tav's Pension 13311 was brought up and agreed.to, and the Bill was ordtled to be read a third time . : On the Motion of Mr. Coa . s.y ' , the Bill for contiiiiiing . .:se, verallemporary Laws in Ireland, the Irish Spirit --Licence Bill, the Irish Stamp ,Duty. Bill, and the Irish Distillery Eiii, 'were each read a second time, and ordered to _be com mitted to-morrow. The Conunitt;+ on the iklasters and Servants - B:2, arid the second r;:ading of the .COnst:.hies AlloWance - Bill, were put ( atill to-morrow: • - - The third readinr; of the Bill for allowing the warehousing and bonding Portugal Wines, was put (anti toi.niorrow. ZitYPT. Afo;:jCIAM,3 said, that in-pursuanee of his , no. lice he rose ,once more to call the artention'of .the House to thet Affairs of Egypt." He - had been .at_ tacked and anathematized by -the EX-MinisteettpOn. this subjel, but he thought it his duty., as a Member of Parliament, again shortly to troable the House respelling the consequences .that ensued from .the rupture of the Convention of. El-Arish. The first proposition• which he should lay doWn, and he did' not expeft to hear it controverted, was, that Sir SIDNEY SMITH was invested with foil Powers as Minister to the Ottoman Porte, He should there fore contend that Sir St nt.tir Smint had a' right/to conclude the Treaty of ElArish, and that we were, bound by it.' When the French had agreed by that Treaty to evacuate Egypt, he believed - that - every body considered it as , a brilliant. terminatioo, on our part, of the contest about Egypt. '[he objeet of his present Motion was,' to ascertain who it was that advised His MAJETY to send out Orders to Lord Kr tall not to agree to the Treaty, in order that Ministeri who gave that advice :rnighi. with the censure which they deserved for such con_ duet. Another objet he had in view was, to'res cue the charaCtee of the Country from, the charge of Punk Faith which this transaction had brought• upon her. He meant not to accuse-the preserfr nisters of any 'of the guilt of that buSiness, and he, had no doubt but that they would concur with him upon this occasion, and show to the. Country - tO whom the blame of breaking that Treaty .was attri butable. He wished the House for a moment to con sider what Were . the, consequences of violating that Treaty ; in the first place, it caused' the continuation of the War, and therefOre placed the Country pr sent alarming situation. Exclusive of the War with France, Gentlemen must know that the 'Armed ,Neutrality still, subsisted, indeed he believed he might say we were engaged in a Baltic War. It was well known, that the Ktetc of Pauss lA' had seized Hanover and its Treasures, and for, the dis position of that Monarch, wad, of the Este lowa ALEXANDER, he begged, only to refer to the Mani:. ,estoes they had published—and' all 'these conse.:' quences were attributable only to the violation of the Convention of El-Arish. But thii was not the worst—our best Troops were sent to Egypt, at the moment when we were threatened with an•lnvasion. fle,ides this, Portugal, perhaps at the moment he was speaking, had submitted. to the Enemy ; whereas the Troops we sent to Egypt, might have been sta. , cient to defend her.—There was a report itycircula , tion, that: three French Frigat6 had et - atered Alex-. andria with.men and stores, but he hoped there was no foundation for it... It had alsobeen stated, that there was a great want of Surgeons. in our Army in that'quartef, and he believed there was some founda tion for the reorr, from the number that had been lately sent out. He wished to know whether the Army from India had reached Suez; he feared nei ther the Ministers,' nor any of the East India Di rettors could answer that question in the -affirmative. He then concluded with moving, " That an Humblt Address be presented to Hts.MAt EFery,, praying that he would he pleased to communicate to his Faithful Commons, by whom he had been advised to send out the Orders co Lord Kt tali, not to consent to any' Treaty' unless . the French surrendered as Prisoners,,of War." :The Address then went on to state at 'length the various ill. consequences which .ensued froM the Convention of YI-Arish. Lord 11.4IVICES13URY said, that - the •arguments of.the Hon. Gentleman had been so often answered, and he had so frequently stated his reasons for dif. Bring with the Hon. Gentleman upim,this subjed; that he should think he took up.' the time of' the 1 - loutt improp6rly, if he entered into any argument 'upon the subjed, and thereby delayed .the HOuse from the consideration of the other important public .bushiess which stood for this day.. For the reasons he had formerly given, he should : , .vote agpinst the Motion. ~ Mr. WINDHAM said, he rose to make a few observations upon what had fallen fro , n. the Ho'n. Gentleman ; not, that he did not concur with the Woble Lord in thinking that the answers which had been before , given perfeEtly decisive upon the sub jea. Before 'the Hon. Gentleman could succeed in his ,Motion, there were two points which it would be necessary for him to:maintain. In the first place, it would be necessary for the Hon. Gentleman to shew that the decision of Ministers 'was, at the time it 'was made, unwise, and .. improper ; . and, supposing the decision to have been wrong, then that the consequences were ' such as had been ' stated. .If the Honourable .Gentleman' failed. in establishing the first point, then there was .an . end of the question, because, if it appeared that the decision was proper under. all' the circumstances at the time when it Was made, Ministers could, upon no fair reasoning, be con3ittered censurable for ' the consequences, however unfortunate they might be. With regard to the first point then, viz. whe ther the decision which His ,Majesty's Ministers came to upon that point was right or "wrong, he . ' should only say a very few wards. At the time 'that decision was made he ,thought it was right, and he noW,"after maturely considering all the cir cumstances, was fully of the, same opinion. Even now he could not, with,a view of all the events' which have happened since,. or 'considering the events whichlinght enEue i bring himself to regret that determination which Ministers came to '.upon that subjett. He did not state this, because he Wished at All events to defend the late Ministers, for he had -much rather they had been wrong in their judgment, provided the conequences bad been fortunate .for 'the Country, than that they should have been right in their opinion, and the conse quences unfavourable. In defending the conduit of the late Ministers upon that occasion, he meant to have contended, that among other adVantages de.. rived from it, ,it, had added much to the charac.: . W ter of. the ~ C Ountry, and therefore ' he as not a little, surprized to hear the Honourable Gentle,. man state, as one . of his objeCtiOns .to the tnea..' sure, that it had injured, our national 'reputation. `The Honourable Gentleman and he must surely see the.sobjea in a.. very different View,' since the very point Which , the Hon. Gentleman considered as a matter of charge, he meant' to 'have urged in order to spew that Ministers were entitled to raise. In order to Shew that our 'national chataler had t been injured ) the Hon. Genticnian had contended that we had broken our faith with our Allies, he supposed by Allies-he 'meant .the ,Turks ; but- the Hon. Gentleman should recolle& that we had other 41.1 lies, -Viz. the Austrians ; pnd what would they have said, if, at a moments'When'they werkL.eon tenditig in Italy. against the French with forces so equally balanced, that the contest was at last de cided by a hattle,..otstather by fraCtion of a bat tle, for three fourths of the battre the Anstians ; wha't would they have said, if, when matters were .so nearly :balanced, we., had- suffeijed . ts,ooo or more of the best Troops - of France ro have been throw'w into the scale against them ? It had . been stateda . that .the French would, have been lauded iniFrance, not in Italy ;-but that Wouldohla make- a difference of about three weeks ; fist they certaihly would . have been marched into Italy. It would be impossible to persuade the AuStrrans, under these circumstances;' that' we had not sacri ficed 'the- general 'cause for oar in terest. As to the argument, that they.:would not. have' 'arrWed time enough to have given any efEeetuar, assistance to the French, it was certainly a little difficult to ~tell whether they would Or not, before•hand, unless it had been previously known on what day . the Battle ofMa rengb4ould tae fought, and what would best* issue of it. Biit'bY sitting "in the' 'manner in which the Government of this-Country acted upon that occa- - slots, our National'ClaaraCter was 'maintained; and we liad . shewn the world, that we preferred a stria atiherenceto our Public Faith -to any advantages, however great; .which we might gain. by a viola- . lion, of it. This then was one ijf the - advantages which we-had gained by our - decision upon that oc casion. This alone 'was most material,: but it was not all, we had since obtained other comp.24sakiLUts. No man certainly could enter into a comparison of the , value iaf" the lives' of men, and the glory and advan.: cages which we 'might obtain at such.an expellee ;, but the loss having been incurred, it certainly, was proper to consider the advantages we had obtained. It would not heaupposed be contendcd.that the re putation. of a Country did not 'constitute part of its strength, particularly in she preserA times. It did so happen, that' since the commencement of that system which was to make all men Brethren, and consooyently. •to introduce universal'. Peace among mankinl l War seemed to- have becotne the whole businesa,oflife ; since the time that arms and warfare were to be laid aside for ever, the whole of Europe had- become as it were one Camp. It did so happen' - t the very. People . who , first intro. duccd this .‘,.Sterti of Universal Peace, -immediately formed themselves into a Nation of armed Robbers,' and mane •,i,aE upon all their neighbours -solely' for the purposes of plunder, and - nos Nation was safe that did not inunctliato,y convert leself.into. a Na. tion of Soldiers. This being the vase, he.could not but think that the military- reputation of a COmitty was now ,more important than it ever was in for Mer times ; becaust France,. which, Wlls alw4s one. Of the most- warlike States iu Europe, had now be. come More so than eser. - tie 'therefore never liked those who, while they put no holinds to their eulogitrtns on the military merit of France; at the same time held a very . different -language to this Country. We were advised not- to hope of forming an' Army, and ,almast To renounce the use of •nrms. It always'appeared to him, that thus to exalt the merit of the Enerny, and to depress the _spiiits. of the People of this Country, was, to use no harsher expression, very unseasonable. If every qountry would do the same, and renounce arms for ever, it would certainly be •fortunate for natokind ; . but while ,wehad an armed Nation at our doortsch as France Was ) e thobe who advised - us to Jrmipish ; t . . our means of defence, must be either so stu pid or, -so 'depraved that • till attempts to con vince them must be 'hopeless. When , we considered the , etfeit .which the recent iv'ents in:Egypt mast have upon our Military it could'erit but be.observed, • that it was perhaps more necessary now than at anyformer -period. We could not,dis aemble from ourselves, that while our Naval glory had been great beyond *all: .fortner . example,., taut it became somehow or other a fashion -to depress the Military charaaer of the' Counrry. Every traitor in this Country willingly took up the notion, and propagated it with aetivity and pleasure ; it even gained ground' among foreign Nations, who were either a4uated by, a love Of wonder, or perhaps they could not look' upon our unexampled Naval successes Without feeling something like envy, and therefore it was said, that though we had by some means or other got a knack of conquering by sea, yet that, at land we Were inferior to the French'. There cer tainly Were some causes, that led people in this Conn try to entertain that opinion, and one was the, state and condition of-the -Army es—He did not ,mean tcs say, that .our Army in its worst state, was superior to any otlyr•ArminYurope.,ibut he would 'contend, thatfor a certain species of service, they certainly were inferior to no Troops in the world. One- reason why our Army was not in eVery, respect stf good as some of the Troops upon the Continent, was, that Our Establishment before the-War was so low, that we had as it were, to' make up an Army min sudden. Then the great mortality which was occasioned by un whole. soaT i elimates was to be taken into consideration, so pial a fad, our Army had alivayS been coin posed, if' he might use Ile expression,. of raw. Mitt.. Trwe loaked to the Expedition which was sent to Holland, .evety Gentleman must know the 'manner in .v.;.ich that. Army was formed, but he believed that thos . e. who would be inclibed to speak Pie most in its.praise, were those. who had to eon, tend against it, and though - that Expedition failed in some of its objeas, 'yet upon every occasion in which Our Troops were engaged in that Country, whether in offensive or defensiveeope this, ations, b h t ey (; c w i e rc re m tt s ls t aa zs su of ccessful . Notwithstanding the war did certainly throw a of -shade over o ur A r My. The glory' of our kind Navy was so great, that every other service, was swidaes, overlooked, uintldat:7ti a ev l ser l e 6. our attention was engaged on one c i: l as ret i lm t 'c s v ra er L ' e, l 7ll:t a tl ° le ne e‘ l r c e g' n ' ts . In t . , - Egypt oceurred.: Whole. wars Might pas over -without 'affording an -opportunity mg 'our strength with the Enemv o . f -I: ll j u r t lY• in e & t,s l,7t , the very scene seethed to he chosen for t suit hie t : i. e i r il g d t r h a — wil th f e ro -t in we r - b A e rm w i o e rla. seemed • as it were to e They were bUth left without any other resourcess - but that which they could draw from their own courage and _disepline, they had no Allies, to share the, merit of victory , or bear the digrace of defeat. Their motto seeancl to t be V Vidi, and all they eked was aOw stage, and no favoureWho were those whom we con tiered ? not Greeks .or- Copts, Batavians nor Cisale pines, who have been found to recruit these Armies, by which they had been conquered, but the.tried,.tht ZiOseff, -- tlre — bnt dittroPreof - Ftzt nee , : we were -eon tending with the pride and glory of the Republic-, with 'Trots is whom the French - themselv es would Ta — ve 7 eTiOseini 4 S - Ire depositaries‘ of their Military characters would - not say that those we had beaten were the e best • -of those Troops who had been nt to Egypt,. -but undoubtedly having remained the longest, they had more of:that 'eharaeler Which . is supposed to belong - to:Veterans. We knew what they thought-of themselves.--we kneW that they boasted that they would destroy us if they once" caught us out - of our Ships ; but, like the young, and uettied Orlando, we overthrew the experieneed wrestler, and he might say, that upon this occasion we had given them a Rowland for their-Oliver. He would-not say,. in thOaegeage Of tie same Piece, that " no tine would, entreat. them to a notherco.' coueteer."- ,He . would not d© the French Army in Egypt injustice: he did not doubt but that they would venture another encounter not , ay that-fortune might not be favourable to-theta in it; but this he , would say, that from this time ferth no. French Army would ever meet an: Army with a lt7OW th t i l n ) . a g t i th ik e e y e f - e ea e u l l i ti ng n s t: f re °9 l y n ti t t e lo rii n P a t n ; y rh ;l : TPl uaruiti Y j of courage or' discipline. • He thought he ha't a right to, urge all these to the House as cot9Pe nsit 7- tiens for our losses ; we might sustain still greater t n -! l p a c t s eei..) t , h fi e. l ii i i .c e , d r no umai~_ 4 t ui - ( zs h a i y e , b . tiGlaordwfbet‘,vicilr}e4loti ,tit of . Fortunes .beach:; but whatever the event might lie, it could not take from us o ur glory e in-that. respe6t we were. out ,of the reach of detect. lie dia, not urge these considerations as a justificatioh " the vandal of• Ministers, but as compensations for the losses we had sustained. He really did. not think it necessary for him to occupy vote of dle time of :the 1-lbuse, and to•prevent it from procee d " ing to other business; as the lion. Gentleman h!lit not advanced one argument upon the subjed, that had not been before cothpletty answered. kle wa" - howie'ver, glad , the subjett had beep introduced, he. cause' it gave him an opportunity of t nakiog thest few observations, .and of doing justice to the Lary cbarader.of the Countr y, This was a subjea ur" which our children and grand-children would die'`"' with pride—they would talk of Egyh . t and of A c ttorst ay. with as much exultation as we had heat accustoluedie,till „thee degenerate. days, to Si)COC CRFssy anti . of Act NcoußT. ; but this w as rot: it the Enemy might a tt e mpt to invade_us, to en deavour to do, - that 'which he believed was their object fr om in the. comeneenient of . the War, viz. to. effi:d rtlifl ; in such a case would our atchievements in Egypt have no -:ran -in inspiring .the peeple 01 England ith confidence, and • throwing -a. &OP upon- the Enetny ?- The French wete.tonfident 1-I;4° cause they lied been generally ii_teeesafule4 • 71 • ros,synt qua posse vitleiutir. - ; He was- sorry: to say, that giving 'Many Coonrty' 3 . tile common logulge was; '" 7 ' French are invincible,, mo ps eati 'meet then) " l e the field, our Army. cannot Stand, before them, must lay down our ArmS, and throw out''° ve' - the tender it - let-cies of our Enemy ;". such laogtwt4 had beeti.•usedaild, would be.bsed by th. e considered the . - cause `of France as their own. ?hose who had been led to despond by_ wcAdY. c ,`:,, , ,, lacing the power of the Enemy, - and 'vette- ,J'a,l'),.l-1..! ,our own, would henceforth entertain a_ doubt the valour'and diseiplioe of:the .Be.iiikt:'.lll-"Is, With respeet to the subjea now - before the lu,tiee; he felt nwankiety el;cry . argureerie-that Avaneed had been repeatedly ansWered,. aed I°* tile fore, he shoUld not trespass any.longer attention of the House, Mr. NICHOLLS, supported the Motion. 100 Mr: .GREY Said, he was inch sur'prize4l' a t 111 , 40, of the observations that fell from the Ri g ht n6urable':Gentleman. He had o ccii p ied .whic a c ° , 11 1 30 derable time in' answering observations ,'.' ibe had made ; lie hki entered into a .defence (--) no Military Charader Of the Country, th9 9 o i n attack had ever been* ade upon it Mini st e rs .1 , at kcait 'i his hearing. The *Pl m ans , which formed_ had. been censured • but he never any imPutation thrown our - Who was . there so stupidor ab 3b norant, as to suppose that a British "inny, inns composed of the same ‘inateritti3 as tile '‘' o ' 4 , would insinuate a doubt' of their' steadiness an'ic 1 , 1-age ?.. The' Hon. Gentleman had stated, that ° 1 0 „i, 'out egainSt the bravery. D n n u i Fe k r o i o r i k us ,. e f a t a l. n r i d iu: k r l; e r s in % Y ve' Continent people did not entertain s< s a - high a b s ad it . prizing they should form such opinion, th ° lot to point of fad :those. failures were at t riblirah l6 any went of courage g in ontSoldiers, but t° ftorivea. Ferrol were considered, wA9ll,a,ia surdity of the-plans • which Ministers hid drat tta The Rf.*Hoi - L . Gentleman had also stated , ; • eras ins m d e e t ser w v i e rl i : Europe was jealous. of 'our stieeesses: nice }tats. rather a singular assertion, - after fighting ~„/ f p lo u r ia t r he th de a t li % % % e e ra a ti n ee d o n t o '. t E tj u l r e op l e sr;em it h :va s s lio r t ' l l i t ,l: o ` l ? :e ni t i l i i i c , objetis of je.nlousv. He' had s rate'tl.th 3t . 4 t hat J an tart' reputation was thrown into the ?1 1 ;" .e, Jo. o ur we wanted an oiTortunity retrievirl , cs i r At ratter ; he never heard before that it wls . Y oiat ioat to fight a battle 'merely for military' r . 9- t ure e e -e V II T I TO' : 1\: v1 0 - l e ) 0 0.d i y t t t h - j r, n e k ee t s .n s o ar r y e hlg.'•,ly' of that than he but he could nut but lament b ee , ocher ,t . tbco , tt - should be employed in such a contest, c, i s Convention of. ‘EI-Arish hod would have been unnecessary to have " 11 _,_ 6 1101 1 Egyilt at all. If it was iodislynsable that . "' , t ut—ose try our ettee e-th w ith _the French? . 147 a s• Theatre was wanting, might ,they cessary „ to go to -Egypt rur that p no l i 1131 , 1 c. be c C r : tiernan had stated, that one reason "` tihijO rne'l was defee,tive that the rea. 0,0 vinp oy i n . rortugal ? The Righ . t - jyt e: •Gentleinanl•opinion, for .retneful-rtcy:al end Ii :vas - too low . : this' teas not alwey's the Wale' witeil the Right, 'lice". Genc ic . agreed in politiOal opinions, concurring _