The Sun. — London, England, 1853-07-09 00:00:00

MONEY MARKET AND COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.) CITY, TWO O'CLOCK. The sales of cotton at Liverpool yesterday were 7,000 bales, including 1,500 for export and on spe culation. The market closed steadily. The share market opened with a dull appearance, but after wards improved and closed firmly. The following account of the present state of the dried-fruit trade in London is by Messrs. Wetherby and Hansom : "At the commencement of the 1846-7 season, we were literally without currants, and prices were driven up from 45s to 565, but before December about 7,500 tons of good new fruit had arrived. This cannot by any possibility be the case this autumn. We may receive a little more old fruit direct and from the Continent, but as the clearances are likely, in the interval, to continue on, at least, a moderate scale, we shall find ourselves, at the commencement of the new season, with a most trifling stock of old fruit. ill assorted, and with no hope of a prospective supply of such qualities as are adapted to our usual winter demand. "It is a peculiarity in this trade that currants and raisins are seldom excited and brisk at one and the same time. The latter article having, since the date of our last report, attracted much attention, and been subject to vast speculative operations, currants have, accord ingly, been comparatively quiet. There has been, how ever, no retrogade movement, but rather the contra r y ; some extra fine old Zante has again commanded 100 s., so that 90s. to 100 s. are no longer looked upon a s extra ordinary quotations for finest fruit. New fruit h av i ng been rather scarce, has not met with much atte n ti on ; i t is much inquired for, and will, no doubt, continue to command full prices. The amount of bullion in the Bank of England shows a decrease during the week to th e 2d i nst., compared with the previous return. This arises principally from , the sums remitt e d t o t h e Conti nent for " calls ' upon foreign railways. The ad vances upon other securities were augmented, showing more demand f or money. The various changes were as follows : Active circulation Increase , Bullion £22,867,820 216,260 18,553,905 Decrease Rest Increase Public Deposits Increase Other Deposits Increase Seven-day and other Bills Increase Government Securities Decrease Other Securities Increase Notes unemployed Decrease 111,384 3,149,789 35,257 5,615,362 83,249 12,504,620 172,210 1,372,642 49,248 13,116,997 1,013 14,372,331 666,942 9,204.260 359,065 Bills of Exchange upon the principal Continental cities were taken yesterday afternoon at nearly Tuesday's rates. Paris , 90 days, 25 ; 22i- to 25 ; Amsterdam at 11 181 Hamburgh at 13 7 to and Trieste at 11 4 to 6. The amount of gold shipped from London during the week, to Thursday last, was 4,537 ounces, and 39,5811., the latter all to Australia, and of silver 2,104 ounces. The English Stock Market has been very firm this morning, and the assurances given in Parlia ment last evening seem to have inspired the hope that negotiations will be continued that may lead to a pacific solution of the Eastern question. At the same time the foreign accounts do not read well. The value of Consols has been 98 and 981 for transfer, and 981 to 8 for account, the pre sent quotations being 98k f. The New 3k per Cents. have realised 104 to and the 3 per Cents. 981 to 99. East India Stock has been marked 257 to 258, being an improvement. Ex chequer Bills are ls. to 4s. premium, and India Bonds 245. to 30s. premium. Foreign Stocks generally are rather higher, and with moderate transactions. Mexican Bonds have been at 27 to Eqnador have been firm at 51 5 -. Grenada Deferred Bonds have been marked 91-. Portuguese Four per Cents. are very firm at 41 to i• Spanish are merely nominal. The Swedish Loan is at 1 premium again. Russian Four-and- Half per. Cents. are steady at 1001, ex dividend. French Three per Cents. have been 76 25 ; Bel gian Four-and-a-Half per Cants. at 97 to 98 ; and the Dutch Four per Cents. at 96 to k. Railway Shares have advanced with the funds, but the transactions are not large. French shares are merely nominal. The Gold Mine and Land Companies Shares are very flat, and in the Australian Banks there is scarcely anything doing. RITISH FUNDS THIS DAY. ( Frbnt the Olicial List.) Rosiness done. 3 per Cent. Reduced Annuities 3 per Cent. Consols Annuities . 11.13 W 3,} per Cent. Annuities India Stock I ndia Bonds, £lOOO Ditto, under £lOOO Consols for Account Exchequer Bills, ld. £lOOO £5OO Small 98 . i 9 984 8 1014 a 257 8 25 30 24 98 1 I ▪ 1 1 PRICE OF FOREIGN FUNDS THIS DAY. I, lllador Bonds Grenada Bonds, Deferred Mexican 3 per Cent. P°lll lgnise Bonds, 4 per Cent Ditto for the Account Ditto Ex all over-due Coupons Russian Bond s 5 per Cent. Ditto 4A per Cent Sw edish Loan * 2? ... ▪ 41 ▪ 38i • 100 i 1 Dividends on the above payable in London. . French Routes, 3 per Cent 76f 25e Ex 25f 10c telgiau 44 per Cent. Dutch ExChange, 21 per Cont. . ...... Ditto 4 per Cent. Certificates .. 961 6 TWO O'CLOCK. Consols for Opening 19th July 9Bl i x d THE SAVINGS BANKS BlLL.—This bill, as amended, was yesterday printed by order of the Commons. CHANGES IN THE PRACTICE OF APPEALS.—Her Majesty has been pleased, by and with the advice of her Privy Council, by an order dated the 13th of June, 1853, to approve certain rules and regulations set forth in a re port of the Lords of the Judical Committee of the Privy Council, for the purpose of effecting greater economy, dispatch, and efficiency in the appellate jurisdiction of her Majesty in Council. THE WAGES' MOVEMENT.— SHIELDS, July 7.—Yes terday the South Shields' Town Council determined to advance the wages of the men in the police force in that borough 2s. per week. On the same day the Tynemouth Town Council resoli , ed to adopt the following scale of Wages to be given to the police force in that town : Serjeants, 235. per week ; first-class men, 21s. per week ; second class, 19s. per week ; third class, 17s. per week. Th e masons i n N orth Shields struck ast week for an advan ce f rom 24 5. t o 26 5. per week. Several of the masters have given the wages, and there seems every probabilit y th at the whole of them, will comply with the terms asked by the men, which is not more than what is being received by the wcrkmen of the adjoining town. APOTHECARIEs-lux L.—Th e f o ll ow i ng are the names of the gentl emen w 0 passed their examination in the science and practice of m edicine, to practice, on Thurs i d eyrlicine' and received certificates 7th of July :—Henry Cooper Rose, Canterbaur' th:Jhn Heiary Thomas, Llansamlet ; Peter Leigh Bayard, Ll ' angelan, Syme, Cumberland ; John S adle r Warrington • James South Wales ; Joseph BeauthanmsP Matthews, Oxford shire ; John Adams, Bolton. er ( - ) y il pt r asin g cha racter HANWELL.—An entertainment of a took place at Hanwell, Middlesex, the 6th inst. The spacious grounds a ttacheg th n tO ad t he Rev. Hanwell College were liberally throw n op en b of Hanwell and Dr. Emerson, the Principal of the institutiO r n, to members of the Hanwell Mutual Ipprovement Society, their their friends, neighbours, and gentry the neighbourhood. The fineness of the day contributed to enhance the pleasures of the field, which were of the usual rural character. There was cricket and climbing, pony and donkey races, raffling, leaping, jumping i n sacks, climbing for prizes, &c. An excellent band was in attendance, and added to the attractions of the fête by its enlivening strains. In the evening the company adjourned to the spacious and hospitable residence of Dr. Emerton, and tea and dancing closed the entertain ments of the day. Just previous to separating, "God save the Queen" was sung, and a vote of thanks rap turously accorded to the rev. doctor, who briefly returned thanks, affectionately alluding to his twenty years inter course with them as a pastor and friend, and assuring them that he deemed the best means of promoting the glory of God was to contribute all in our power to the well-being and happiness of man. LAMENTABLE OCCURRENCE.—On Thursday morning, wo hear, a lamentable occurrence took place at the seat of Savill Onley, Esq., at Stilted. A young lady on a visit at the mansion, the daughter, it is stated, of Cap tain Barrington, was found drowned in the water in the park, supposed to have committed suicide.—Chelmsford Chronicle. REPRESENTATION OF NORTH DERBY.-Mr. William Evans, of Allestree, having accepted the Chiltern Hun dreds through increasing years and ill health, his son, Mr. Thomas Wm. Evans, has issued an address on free trade principles to the electors. The High Sheriff has fixed Saturday, the 16th of July, for the election, at Bake well. SLIGO ELECTION. -Mr. Sadleir has been returned Fy the small majority of 4. The following' were the num bers at the close of the poll : Sadleir.. Somers.. 145 141 Majority for Sadleir 4 TRALEE ELEcnoN.—The nurnter.i at the close of the poll were : O'Connell Fitzgerald ................ 150 ................ 10 Majority for O'Connell,..., ....... , 140 SHARE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) BRITISH RAILWAYS. Closing Prices this day. Business done this day. RAILWAYS. 50 50 20 50 1100 1 81 181 100 100 all all 45 all all all all all aif i.OO all ' 11f 100 East Anglian Shropshire Union South Devon 'South Eastern.. Aberdeen Ambg. Nottng. Bost and Eastn. Binning. Wolverh. & Stour Valley Birkenhd. Lanesh. Cheshire Junct Do. Chesil. di Birk., £5O and £25 Cons. Do., £20 ..... Bristol alid Exeter.. Ca1ed0nian............ ..... Chester & Holyhead Cork and Bandon Cork, Black, & Pass Dublin&BelfastJunc , Dundee Perth &A.ber- 1 deen Junction Do. New Do., („Cl - 8 E & H)... Eastern Counties.... Eastern Union, Claa A.. late E. U. Sh... Do., do . ..... Do., B. and C........ East Lancashire East &West Ind. Dk & Binning. June Edinburgh &Glasgow Edinb. and Peebles Edin. Prth. &Dundee Glasgow &S. Western Great Northern Stk. Do., A. Stock 0., B. Stock.. Gt. Sth. &West.(lre.) Great Western Irish South-Eastern Lancaster & Carlisle Do., Thirds Lancash. andYorksh Do., Fifths D D., Wet. Riding Un Leeds Northern Crsby. &Southpt London & Blackwall Lond. Tilb. &Sthend. Loud. Bright & S.Cst. Lond. and N. Westn., Do. Fifths Do,lo/. London and S. Westn. Do., £5O Do., £4O Lndndrrydz Coleraine Lndndrry. & Ennisk. Maneh.Shef.& Lincln Do., Man. & Lin. Un Midland Do. Birmng. & Derby Midld. G. West. (Ire.) Do. Half Shares . NeWeastle & Carlisle, Newmarket Do., Bury Extension. Nwpt. Aberg. & Ilrfd Newry & Enniskillen Newry Warrenpoint and Rostrevor Norfolk Northn.Counties North British North Devon, No. 1. Do., No. 2 Do., 3 A Deferred Do., i B Guaranteed, North Staffordshire ) 1 North Western N. & S. Westrn. Juno. Oxford, Worcester, & Wolverhampton Scottish Central Scottish Midland Shrewsbury & Birmg. Do. L. & N. Western Guaranteed Stock Shrewsby. & Herefd Shrewsby. & Chester (N. W. Min.) Do. Halves, do Do. Oswestry South Wales S. Yrksh. & Itiv. Dun Do Stockton & Hartlop]. Thames Haven Dock, and Railway Vale of Neath Waterfd. & Kilkenny Waterford&Limerick West Cornwall . Wimbledn&Croydon York Newetl.&l3erw. Do. Extensions Do. G.N.E. Purchasel I York & N. Midland... 26 -26 i 5.1 5i 9i - 104 9 7 dig' 20 - 22 100 - 1014 67 - 684 - 22 . 4 20A - 216 2,1 - 3ipl 8- 9 34 1 - 4 i 12i- 1.4 11k -11 i 8 - - 84 71 - 72 47 - 52 70 - 72 28 - 30 85 86 53 55 ,134 -- 136 109 -- 110 88 , 1— 89 97 -- 102 166 -- 176i411 76 -- 1 4i -- 4d 3g -- 30 146 -- 15 8i- 9 1i -- 2 p 1 1031 -- 1041 114/ -- 1151 2Ap 1 -- 1i 89 -- 9 0 £ 54 4Ad 4 3id 11 13 18 20 284 —29 i 71 -71 i 40 - 421 52 - 55 it 3 8 - 9 50 - 52 i - 2 34 33 ... ..• -- ~ 4 4gd 8 Eit 48 4 92 - 94' 58 - 62 58 - 62 68 -- 72 -- id 184 -- 19 94 -- 9 134 -- 14 3A —3d 19 -- 21 70 -- 704 35i -- 364 12 -- 13 23 - 25 - 2i 14 - 154 - 9 30 - 32 - 104 68i -69 A 74 - 7gcl 2 1 1 58A - -59 A PREFERENCE SHARES 100 5 100 all Aberdeen I Do., No. 2, 7 p. c... This. & Ex. 4 p. a. St. Do. 4 p. c. Shares .. ,Caledonian £10...... Choster & Holyhead Guar. 5. per cent... Cork &Bandon 53, p.c. Dundeo Perth&Aber deon Junction....... 92 - - 96 88 --92 107 -- 109 EastA nglian (310 s) 6 per cent. Do. (25) 7 per cent Do. (£7l7s) 7 p. ct Eastern Counties Ex tension, 5 p. c. No.l Do., No. 2 Do., New 6 p. c. St Eastern Union, Scrip Guar. 6 per cent— EastLancash. 6 p.cts. Edinb.Prth.&Dundee 5i per cent Glasgow do S.Westorn guar. 5 per cent. Great Northr 5 p.c Do. 5 p. c., Redeem , at 10 p. c. prom Gt. Southn. &Westn (Ireland) Eighths Gt. Westu. (Berk s Hants Ex. 5 p. c.) G. West. fixcd4. p c Lan. d; York. F. .t2O, Do., 6 p. c., Stock London and Brightoo Guaranteed 5 p. c Do. Pref., 5 p. c. St Do. Convertible, 5 p c., 1852 Do. New Guar. 6 p. c London 61 S. Western, Con. Thirds 1107 - 1091 19i -20 i id -- par 61 -- 6i 4 - 44' 5 •- 54 - li -- 2A p li -- 2 p 14i -15 i 201 -• 20 3 - 3 iii -: lio 100 6 100 100 1111 - 113 8b Si -- 74 105 - 1071 d I, pm 152 154 12i 12i 25 Londonderry& Coler. i Shares Londy. & Ennis. i Sh Ranch. ,Shef., &Lin., i Shares, No. 1 Do. Now, £lO.. 0., £6. . Marypt&Carl. 4 p. C. Do. 44 per cent Do .. ••• - '154 - 157 I gi 100 100 Mid . Consol. 6 p. c. St. 'Do. Consol. Bristol & Birm. 6 per cent Do. Pref. 4i per cent Norfolk Extension Do. Guar. 5i per ct Do. Way. Val. 5 p c North British North Staffordshire Oxford Worcester & Wolverh. £15,6p. c. Do.. all 100 all 100 Shrews& Birm. N. G. Shrewsby. & Chester (No r. W. Min),B p. c. Do. 5 per cent South Devon Do. New 31- 4 10 - 11 12i - 13, 25 10 1.0.6 S. Eastern (Reading Ann.,) of £1 Os.6d. S.Yorksh.4p.e.Guar. Waterfd.&Kilk.6p.c. York Newcastle and Berwick,4 p.c.Pref Do 8 9 10a —10 i # ?': P York& N. Midland H ilk S. Parch. ••• ''' 150 152' Par 116 lls 118 122 115 - 117 25i - 26 11 -- 1i 101 - 10 - 171 —17 i 1 p 14. 4 —15 i, par— iPI 25 26, 19 20, id pa: 112 102 - 104 Z") k - FOREIGN. 10 5 33 Antwerp&Rotterd —1 d 20 10 20 4 Belgian Eastn. June. 1 Dijon leroi Erquelin. 14 —l5 20 all le h ters to Graissessac 1 . 20 8 Dut 20 all Eas t 2 —l 6 d 64 Dutch Rh enish par— 1 p 20 1 D o . 5 all Gt. In dia n Ex tension... ... 1 l i P 20 10 Peninsula Gd. Jima. of Fusu I —2„ p 201 all Gt.WesternofC n a y. 1 P Shares .. 5 2 Lucca & .";~; d p pref.. ............ 20 15 LuxembOurg ..... d 10 10 Do. (Railway) 5 2 Do. 5 3 Do. (Canal) 14 .10 2 Do. 6p. ct. prof 20 9 Lyons & Medite rran dsl 20 7i Madras ... . 20 all Namur & Liege (with interest) ..... . 50 all Do. (ex interest) 16 all Northern of France 354 35 35/ Do. 201. 3 p. C Bds. 20 all (fray.B.&Ams.Shs.) 14 —l5 10 all NorwegianTrunkPref 8 9 20 10 Paris and Lyons l6 16 4 26 4 10 all Paris and Orledns 4l —43 20 all Paris and Rouen 40i — 4l 20 all Paris and Strasbourg 36 - 361 361 20 4 ParisCaen & Cherbrg. 4 -- 5 104 7i Quebec & Richmond d— par 20 all Rouen and Havre lB 1 9 4 50 2 Royal Swedish _ p 20 all Sambre and Meuse 7 8 8 20 2 Sth-Eastru. ofFrance 20 6 Southern of France 4 5 p 20 2s. Upper India Scrip R I) a pm si all West Flanders .. . 10 10 Do. 53 per c. Pref dis 20 10 Western of France. -- 9i 10 2 West. of Switzerland i a 20 6 Zealand 3 2 d 50 20 11i 10 50 40 25 25 8/ 2sl 64 25 50 20 20 20 10 St. St. St. St. St. lah 20 20 50 20 20 50 20 10 THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, J QTLY 9, 1858. ' ifrevo , ft - tell '' 4 i eal N....5 1 qt1014 v once between the Board of Control and the Court of Direc tors ? And whether it is proposed to adopt any measures to improve and render less voluminous the system of corre spondence which is now carried on between the Court of Directors and the authorities in India ? _ _ Sir C. WOOD—In answer to the first question of the hon. gentleman, I beg to state I do not propose to dis continue the practice of previous communications, but to extend facilities for the transaction of business. In reply to the second question, I shall endeavour, if I can, to re duce the quantity of correspondence which passes from this country to. India ; but I would remind the house that some of the witnesses examined before the committee declared that the extent to which it was carried was absolutely ne cessary for the good government of India. (Hear, hear.) THE RUSSO-TURKISH QUESTION. Lord PALMERSTON—Seeing my hon. friend the mem ber for Aylesbury in his place, I wish to make an appeal to him on the subject of the notice which stands in his amino for Monday next, and to request him, on the part of the Government, to consider whether in all respects it may not be more advisable to follow the example set by those persons in the other house of Parliament who had a simi lar notice on the books, and postpone, without naming any particular day for the present, the notice he had given. (Hear.) It is obvious that the discussion to which that notice must inevitably lead will, in the present state of public affairs, be attended with inconvenience to the pub lic service—not that her Majesty's Government, or any member of it, would be led to swerve from their duty by abandoning that prudent reserve which it would be their obligation to follow, but that it might be expected, and probably would happen, that in the course of that discus sion things might be said by other persons which would create unnecessary irritation, and thereby tend to thwart and defeat any efforts to bring about a peaceful termina tion of the present crisis. It cannot, I apprehend, be ne cessary for any purpose which my hon. friend has in view ; for, if I understand the nature of his notice, his objects are three :—first, to obtain information, if any informa tion can prudently be given ; next, to assure the Govern ment of support, in the event unfortunately of support being required; thirdly, to hold the Government to their duty, if in the opinion of my hon. friend, they were likely to swerve from the performance of it. Now, in regard to information, none can be given, consistently with the duties of the Government, beyond that already in possession of the house. Nothing can be obtained with regard to that object. With respect to support, I assure my hon. friend that her Majesty's Government require no assurance ; they do not suppose that, in any un fortunate 'event which may lead them to appeal to this. house and to the country for support in a just cause, that support would not be cheerfully and cordially given. Wo need no other assurance of that than the knowledge that we are sitting in the British Parliament. (Cheers.) With respect to the last topic, as to any idea that her Ma jesty's Government may require a stimulus for the per formance of their duty, I think it is sufficient to observe that when two great countries like England and France are united in a common course of policy, are aiming at a com mon object, are guided by common interests, and inspired by most perfect and unreserved confidence in each other — (cheers)—l say that it. cannot, lam sure, enter into the mind of any man to suppose that any temporary forbear ance which the Governments of two such great countries shows, arises from wont of determination, or that the most conciliatory course can be a symptom of debility or weak ness. (Loud cheers.) I trust, without any exhortation from my hon. friend or from any othor quarter, the honour and interests of England and France are in safe keeping, and that honour and those interests are inseparably bound up with the great and important interests of Europe. should hopo, therefore, that my hon. friend, yielding to the appeal I now make to him, will pursue the course which has been pursued in the other house of Parliament, confi dent that when the moment arrives that her Majesty's Go vernment think information can be given, that information will be given, according to the circumstances of the case, to the fullest extent that those circumstances may appear to render desirable. (Cheers.) The noble lord resumed his seat, but immediately rose again to move the formal motion that the house at its rising adjourn to Monday. Mr. LAYARD—In rising to answer the question which has been put to me by the noble lord the member for Tiver ton, I trust the house will permit me to say one word on what occurred yesterday as to deferring this motion, be cause it appears that I have not been rightly understood. I beg distinctly to state that I am unconnected with any party, and that in giving notice of that motion I brought it forward as an independent member, in the conscientious belief that it was my duty to do so. (Hear, hear.) Of course the appeal yesterday could not be resisted ; and when I was informed that the noble lord the member for tho city of London could not be present this evening, I did not hesitate to defer that motion until Monday. But another question, and a much more serious question, has arisen. lam requested to defer this motion, uncondi tionally, and without limit. Now allow me to remind the house, that it was not myself that fixed this day as the proper day to bring forward that motion, but it was the noble lord, who stated, in my absence, that Government would give this day for bringing on the question ; and it appears it was a member of her Majesty's Government who named Monday next as the proper day. I had nothing to do in naming either to-day or Monday, and conse quently, as her Majesty's Government did name Monday, I thought the matter of convenience had then been taken into consideration. I conceive lam labouring under great difficulty and very heavy responsibility. It is my own con viction that, so far from the discussion of this question originating any dangerous results, it would be of the utmost importance in bringing this momentous question to a satis factory conclusion. (Hear.) I need scarcely point to the very great alarm felt in the country from the uncertainty prevailing on this matter. (Hear.) Not only in England, but on the continent, that alarm is felt, and I confess it seems to me scarcely fair towards that ally with whom (and we learn it for the first time on this occasion) we are cordially acting, that the report should be prevalent in this country—a report which may or may not be true— that there have been dissensions in certain quarters which have led to this uncertainty. (Hear.) Now, negotiations in the common acceptation of the term, are scarcely going on. What are the facts of the case ? Here is a great na• tion which has sent a powerful army into two provinces of a neighbouring nation and taken possession of those provinces. A. manifesto has been issued, and I believe this country is little aware of the immense importance and enormous danger of that manifesto. It was an appeal to millions, in the name of their religion, to rise and fight for that religion. I trust it may not have the effect, but it may possibly evoke passions which no man on earth can control. (Hear.) I believe the time has never happened when such proceedings as I have described have occurred on the continent of Europe, without this house having sorpe information (I do not say how satisfactory) laid be fore it ; and I must be allowed to remind the house that this house has received no tittle of information from her Majesty's Government. (Hear, hear.) The only informa tion given has been derived from the official information of the official organ of the French Government. I say, in that state of uncertainty, the trade and commerce of this country have felt very considerable alarm • and I think it only reasonable that so m e sa ti s f ac t or y explanation should be given by her Majesty's Government (Hear, hear.) But if the noble lord rises, and, in somewhat more distinct language, tells me that the consequences of this motion is dangerous to the public service, of course I cannot hesitate in the course which I shall pursue. At the same time I appeal to this house and to the country to bear me out— that I am no longer under any responsibility, and that the responsibility falls upon her Majesty's Government. Of course, I was ready to take that responsibility which such a motion would throw upon me ; and unless it were distinctly understood that her Majesty's Government now take that responsibility in delaying this motion, I should be guilty of a very great dereliction of public duty. (Hear, hear.) If the noble lord rises and states that it is his belief I should endanger the public service by pressing this motion, I shall certainly abstain from doing so. Lord PALMERSTON—I think I stated as plainly as words can put it, that I thought the discussion of the mo tion would be attended with inconvenience and injury to the public service. (Hear, hear.) Mr. DISRAELI—This is a very remarkable case, and I think we ought not to allow it to pass altogether unnoticed. One may easily adopt the impression that an independent member gave notice of a motion on a most important sub ject, which her Majesty's Government consider to be of an inconvenient character ; and no doubt a Minister of the Crown rising and appealing to the member would be supported as under ordinary circumstances and as may now even be accorded. But I must remind the house that is not the case of the honourable member for Aylesbury. Only a week ago the first minister of the Crown, in this house, himself indicated his wish that this subject should be brought forward, his readiness to meet the motion of the honourable member for Aylesbury, and himself fixed the day on which it should be brought forward. Then what follows? From what has taken place to-night that may follow, unless removed by the representations of her Majesty's Government, which may have a very dangerous effect on public opinion, because if the noble lord, the leader of this house, was anxious and ready a week ago that this subject should be brought forward, and if we are told now the bringing it forward will be injurious to the public service, it follows that in the interval of a week circumstances have occurred which have changed the opi nion of her Majesty's ministers. (Hear, hear.) lam n ot _ for a moment saying those circumstances have occu7e. I hope they have not occurred ; but, unless they h ave d occurred, I see no reason why the noble lord should appeal to the honourable gentleman. The honourable gentleman is in exactly the same position as he was a week ago, unless circumstances have occurred which have rendered u posi tion much less advantageous than at that time. (No, no.) I hear a murmur of no ! That is exa ctl y the point which we have to discuss, and it is merely to notice that im portant,,not tha p t o point that answer tliat I h c a a v n e r b i e sen g . ive l n t is criticismno e t .. bymu_ murmuring thisuring kind. It is essential to tho satisfactionpublic mi n d that we should be better informed. mreu onsncetthais of subject.shaye occurred IfudiTuerd ing that interval of a week p of such vast importance and gravity' that her M a j esty ' s ministers are autho rised to take a precisely contrary course to that which they were ready to take a week ago, a de claration of that kind would render every gentleman sil en t. But if that be n ot the case, if circumstances of great danger and gravity have not occurred, then I say the honourable member for Aylesbury incurs grave respon sibility if he omits to do his duty to his constituents and to the country, and to bring forward an important subject which the First Minister of the Crown had pi-e -viouslv invited him to do. (Hear.) Sir . G. GREY and Mr. BRIGHT rose together, but the 1 former gave way. Mr. BRIGHT said—l think with regard to the main question no one has a right to find fault with the hon. member for Aylesbury if ho consent to the proposition of the noble lord, because any member of this houzo—tho right hon. gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) himself—is at liberty t o give notico and to bring the question forward on the earliest day which can be secured, and an opportunity is not very difficult to find if a person is determined to ob tain it. (Hear, hear.) lam one of those who think the honourable member for Aylesbury will exercise a very wise discretion if he does not bring this question forward, and I will state in a very few words the reason why I am of that opinion.—ln this country there is probably no diversity of MINES, Agua Fria ..... Anglo Californian Australasian Australian Australian Cordillera Australian Freehold Ave Maria Baden (Gd. Duchy of) British Austrin. Gold British Iron Brazilianlmp.(issned at £5 pm Do. Cocaes & Cniada Do. St. John Del Rey Carsons's Creek Cobre Copper Colonial Gold Copiapo Copper Min. of Eng Do. Pref. 7i p. cent English and Austin Copper Smeltg. Co General Great Nugget Vein Great Polgooth Lake Bathurst Liberty Lond.&Californ. Gold Quartz Crush. Co Mariquita Mexicau&S.Amerien New Granada INouveau Monde Port Philip Quartz Rook ...... Rhymney 1r0n.... Do. New Santiago de Cuba.. South Australian.. Tin Croft ....... ..... (United Mexican Waller West Granada West Mariposa Ynba , 13p I d —pa r e 2 --3.. d— par g d I d d par 7 d p 4 - 4i 4 - 34 -35 id - ip - 4 1 104 - 111 60 - 70 7 - 8p 2 14 d 15 17 —14 P; 1 Ad 4d — p 4 d— par 7 8 par— * p 1p d par) d n 26 28 7 9 41 54 d— par 3i 41 ad — a p par— 1 ly -- Cli JOINT-STOCK BANKS. Australasia British Colonial Bank and Loan Company British N. American Chrtd. Bnk. of India, Austral. and China Chrtd. 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Portland Iron Co Royal Mail Steam Scot. Austral. Invest Do. New Scrip South Austral. Land Submarine Telegraph Van Diemen's Land NEOITS. 69 := 71 6 =- a 100 5 4 20 68 - 70 2 - 3 p i - - 1p .d p "ii = iip, 50 50 2 100 - - 2 40 - 43 is --- M 70 69 7i 7 16i i LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.) LONDON, July 9.—Wind this day at Noon, E.S.E. ; light airs and dull cloudy weather. DEAL, July B.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Talleyrand, New Orleans, for Hamburgh. Arrived from the River, and sailed - Cadet. for Launceston, V.D.L. ; 31`Donald, Ade laide, S.A. ; Royal Stuart, Port Philip; Lyra, Barbadoes ; Parrock Hall, St. Kitt's, COWES, Jilly B.—Wind, S.E. Sailed—Alice, Val paraiso. _ _ PORTSMOUTH, July S.—Wind, S.E. to S. Arrived— Athenian, London, for New South Wales, and proceeded for Southampton. PLYMOUTH, July B.—Wind, S.W. Arrived—Margaret, Sierra Leone, for Sunderland ; Princess Royal, Quebec. FALMOUTH, July B.—Wind, N., fog. Arrived—York shire Lass, Quebec. Sailed—Firefly, Melbourne ; Martha Mills, Demerara. __ _ ELSINORE, July 4.—The James, Dantzic to Kirkcaldy, has put in here leaky, and will discharge. GLOUCESTER, July B.—Sailed—London Packet, Quebec. QUEENSTOWN, July 7.—Wind, S. Sailed—Clifton, Cal cutta. GUERNSEY, July 7.—Wind, S.W. Sailed—Dispatch, Cardiff and Ceylon. JERSEY, July 7.—Wind, E. Sailed—Alliance, Monte Video. MARKET NEWS-(THIS DAY.) COVENT GARDEN. Very largo supplies of both fruit and vegetables were on offer to-day. The demand ruled steady, at our quo tations. FRUIT.—Pine apples, 4s Od to 8s Od ; hot-house grapes, 3s to 6s ; Hambro ditto, Os to Os Od per lb ; apples, dessert, lOs Od to 15s Od ; cooking ditto, Os to 00s per bushel ; pears, Os Od to Os per dozen ; lemons, is to 2s Od ; oranges, 4s to 8s per 100 ; pomegranates, Od to Od each ; almonds, 5s per pock - Barcelona nuts, 20s p er b us h e l ; co b- nu t s , s per 100113 s. • chesnuts, 8s to 20s per bushel ; straw berries, 4d to is 6d per pottle ; peaches and nectarines, Ss to 20s per dozen ; melons, 3s to 8s each ; cherries, 2d to 2s per lb. ; gooseberries, 2s to 3s 6d por bushel. VEGETABLES. —Cabbages, is to 2s 0,1 ; Brussels sprouts, 2s Od to 3s Od per half sieve ; brocoli, 3s to 6s ; greens, 2s Od to 4s Od per doz.bunches; French beans, 9d to is 3d per NO • asparagus, is to 4s per bundle ; sea-kail, O s Od t o 111 Os per basket:; rhubarb, 3d to Os 8d per bundle ; cauli flowers, is 6d to 4s per dozen ; potatoes, old, 80s to 120 s ; per ton; ditto, new, 12s Od to 25s Od per cwt. ; turnips, 3s Od to 4s Od; carrots, 6s Od to Ss Od per dozen bunches ; cucumbers, Os 2d to is Od each ; celery, 9d to is 6d per bundle ; spinach, is Od to 2s Od per half sieve; old onions, 6s 0,1 to 10s Od per bushel ; spring do, 4d to 5d per bunch • leeks, 3d to 4d per bunch ; shallots, 6d to 8d ; garlic, 6d to 8d per lb ; endive, 2s 2d to 3s Oct per score ; small salad, 2d to 3d per punnet; horse-raddish, is Od to 38 Od per bundle ; mushrooms, is 6d to 2s Od per pottle ; parsley, 2s Od to 3s Od per dozen bunches ; turnip greens, is 3d to is 6d per bushel ; cabbage lettuces, 6d to is per dozen ; cos ditto is to 2s Od per score ; radishes, 6d to is per doz. hands ; tomatoes, Gs Od to 8s Od per dozen ; mint, 3d to 5d per bunch. NEWGATE AND LEADENHALL. Geese, iBO4 to 6s 6d7 Turkeys, Os Od to Os each ; Ducks 2s 6d to 3s 64; tame Rabbits, 1s 64 to 2s 04; wild ditto, 84 to is 2d; Pigeons, 6d to 10deach; roasting Pigs,Os Od to OsOd each; Surrey Fowls, 6s Od to 9s Od; ditto Chickens, 5s 6d to 6s Od; barn-door Fowls, 3s 6d to Os Od per couple; Pheasants, Os Oct to Os Od; Partridges, Os Od to Os 04; Hares, 2s Od to 2s 9d; Leverets, Os 04 to Os Od; Woodcocks, 2s 6d to 3s 6d; Grouse, Os to Os 04; Snipes, 9d to is 6d; Teal, 6d to 9d; wild Ducks, is 3d to 2s Od ; Widgeons, 9d to is Od; and Plovers, 6d to 18 each. English Eggs, 7s 6d to Se 3d; French ditto, Os 6d to 78 04 per 120; fresh Butter, 104 to is id per lb. BREAD. The prices of wheaten bread in the metropolis are from 7Ad to 8d; of household ditto, Sid to 7d per 41b loaf. NEWPORT. Beef, from 3s Od to 45 Od; Mutton, 3s 4d to 4s 8d; Lamb, 5s Od to 68 Od ; Veal, 3s 1011 to 4s 10d; Pork, 35 4d to 4s Od per 81bs. WHITECHAPEL. Beef from 2s 8d to 3s 10d ; Mutton, 3s Od to 48 8d Lamb, 4s 10d to Gs Od ; Veal, 35 10;1 to 4s Bd.; Pork,:3s Od to 4s Od per Sibs. by the carcase. BILL' NGSGATE. Turbots, 5s 0d to 12s Od; Brills, Os Od to Os Od; Cod Fish; Os Oct to Os each; Salmon, Os 8d to Os 10d per lb.; Soles, 6d to 2s Od per pair ; Eels, 6d to lld perlb ; Lobsters, 3d to is 10d ; Crabs, 4d to is 8d ; Whitings, 4s to 5s Od per doz.; Doreys, 2s 6d to lOs Od; Mullets, is to 5s each; Common Oysters, 6s Oct to lOs Od; Natives, 36s Od to 42s Od per bsh.; Mackerel, 8d to 9d eaoh ; Smelts, 64 to is 6dperdoz. Skate, 6d to 7d per lb; Shrimps, is 6d to 2s Od per gallon ; • Bloaters, is ld to 2s 3d per dozen; Fresh Herrings, 3s Od to 3s 9d per 100 ; Haddocks, 4d to Os 10d each ; Plaice, 53 to 78 per 100 ; Carp, Is. Od to 28 Od each ; Tench, is Od to 28 Od per brace ; Gurnots, 6d to is Od each ; Halibut, 6d per lb.; Salt Fish, 2d to 5d per lb. HIDES AND SKINS. Market hides, 561 b to 641 b, lid to 00d; 641 b to 721 b, to 3d; 721 b to 801 b, 3d to :34d; 801 b to 881 b, 41 to 30; 881 b to 961 b, 3id to 4d; 9 6lb to 1041 b, 4d to 41d ; 1041 1 3 to 1121 b Od to Od. Horse hides, 6s Od to Os Od; calf skins, light, is Od to 3s Od; ditto, fall, 5s 6d to Os Od; polled sheep, Os Od to 00s Od; Keixts, 9s Od to 10s 6d; Half-breds, Os Od to Os Od. ; Downs, Cs Od to 8s Od; Lambs, 2s Od to 3s 7d ; and Shearlings, liv 6d to 2s ld. HAY' MARKETS. SMITHFIELD.—Meador r Hay, 3/ 5s to 4/ 68; clover ditto, 4/ Os to N 58 ; an d straw, 1/ 7s to 1/ 14s per load. Supply but moderate, an d trade rather dull. CUMBERLAND.—Meadow hay, 31 5s to 4/ 8s; clover ditto, 4/ Os to 5/ ss; and straw, 1/ 8s to 1/ 15s per load. A fair average supply, anal a steady demand. WHITEOHAPEL.—Meadow' hay, 3/ 5s to 4/ 7s; clover ditto, 4/ Os to 5/ 8s ; and str.p,w, 1/ 7s to 1/ 14s per load. Trade steady, at full rates. ENCUMBERED ESTATES G DUET, IRELAND.—It appears from a Parliamentary retur that of the 968 petitions filed in the above, and with. respect to which proceed ings had been pending in the Courts of Chancery and Equity Exchequer, 219 had been pending over 3 and under 5 years ; 364 over J.; and under 10 years ; 167 over 10 and under 15 years :; 89 over 15 and under 20 years ; 46 over 20 and under 25 years ; 31 over 25 and under 30 years ; 22 over 3 0 and under 35 years ; 17 over 35 and under 40 years ; 4 over 45 and under 50 years ; and 9 over 50 years. all all all all all 13.5 244 1001 1 68 f 8 761 7i 7 pm ioo 115 14 15k 894 90 711 i 1 i 41 25 100 100 20 50 50 100 100 49 si 94 68A 9 12,E 12 59 i 9 30 20 1 40 all 9 all all 20 10 20 35 80A 80 x bon 49# x div & bonus 48 77i 8i SUN OFFICE, Six o'clock. STATE OF TRADE. (From, the Manchester Guardian of this day.) MANCHESTER, July B.—The certainty that Wallachia and Moldavia are now in the military occupation of Russia increases that dullness in our market which was previously caused by the anticipation of such an event. With war apparently imminent, all classes of buyers are doing as little as possible ; and, in addition to this check upon business, we have advices from India and China, which, being in no degree more encouraging than the the previous ones, tend still further to depress the goods produced for those markets, especially 39-inch shirtings, which have latterly been accumulating in the manufacturers' hands. The prices of these are scarcely firm ; the heavier kinds may certainly be pm-, chased at some reduction. On the other hand, the makers of domestics have now established a moderate advance. Except in the stouter descriptions, suitable for home consumption, there is at length a market free from stocks and pretty well supplied with orders. In these articles, that diminution of production which has so long been in progress, is at last making itself felt, but unfortunately the whole advantage is taken from the manufacturer by a rapid and very considerable rise in the yarns he uses, particularly in pin-cops, which are id. per lb. above the rates current before the turn out took place aft Stockport. The operatives and their employers at Stockport appear to have made no advance towards an accommodation of their differences. In Manchester, the mule spinners in two or three additional mills have left their work. In some other establishments a compromise has been ef fected. The demand for higher wages has not yet ex tended to weaving, except very partially. In this de partment, the hands seem to be aware that more cannot be afforded. On Thursday, at an influential meeting of millowners, the basis of a defensive union for Manchester was agreed upon ; and, on Tuesday next, a meeting is to be held, according to • advertisement, for the pur pose of forming such an association for the whole district. It is singular that, in spite of the present diminution in the consumption of cotton a , the trade have this week purchased 40,000 bales, and that the tendency of prices is still rather upward. GLASGOW, July B.—We have no change to report in our cotton market this week. Business has been trans acted at the qUotations of last Friday. BRADFORD, July 7.—W001: the stocks in hand previous to the clip were greater than was gene rally considered. The prices now sought are therefore an effectual barrier to trade, nor do we see any prospect of an improved demand unless sellers moderate their pre tensions, or wait till the stocks in hand are used up. Yarns—The demand for yarns for shipping is not quite so active as for a few weeks past. The subject of war is the all-absorbing topic. For spools the demand is steady, and prices without change. Pieces—The deliveries to the merchants of orders are going on, but not many new engagements entered into.—Bradford Observer. NOTTINGHAM, JULY 7.—Neither the hosiery nor the lace trade offers any new feature to call forth any remark from us this week, each business being much in the state reported for several weeks past. Fashion still continues against the cotton lace trade, and will doubtless remain so during this summer. There is a steady and regular demand for hosiery goods, particularly for those of the better class ; this circumstance, combined with the fact that winter goods must now be produced to a consider able extent, will keep all hands well if not profitably employed. In consequence of spinners demanding an advance of wages, which they appear likely to obtain, it is thought the price of yarn for each business will be yet further increased.—Nottingham Journal. LEICESTER, July 7.—The demand for w ors t e d goo d s little doing the shi except in shipping orders a b t e i t n h g i s nearly n common sorts. Work is plentiful and w ages fi rm . e i u s m u p s l u e t a e l dull, bu t Cotton hose still continue in request. Worsted yarns have experienced a decline of id. per lb., and are only, purchased for immediate wants. In wools but little is doing, and our market generally is much affected by the uncertain state of the political atmosphere. It is thought if the affairs of Turkey were settled, wools would imme diately again have an upward tendency, but at present the utmost caution is used, and speculative purchases are at an end.—Leicester Journal. ROCHDALE.—The flannel market has been very quiet to-day, and the amount of business transacted has been on a very limited scale. There has been very little doing in wool ; the manufacturers buy very sparingly. The extensive wool sales advertised to take place in London this month, have already begun to influence the market in favour of the buyer. HALIFAX.—We have had a very slack market both for manufactures and the raw material, and the price of the latter inclining in favour of the buyer. MPERIAL PARLIAM ENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS-(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL. The committee on this bill was then resumed. Clauses from 32 to 43 were agreed to. Mr. V. SCULLY moved the omission of clause 44, and after a brief discussion the committee divided, when there appeared— For the clause Against it lB Majority The clause was then agreed to, as were also clauses 45 and 46. Mr. SCULLY then moved the omission of clause 47, which empowers the landlord to remove monthly tenants at-will from his premises in cases where they inflict any wilful damage to the After a brief discussion, the committee divided, when the numbers were — For the clause. ........ Against it .................... Majority The clause was then agreed to. Clauses up to 69 were agreed to. On clause 70, . 59 . 18 ,-.--41 Mr. M`MAHON moved the omission of words, with a view of depriving landlords of the power of distrain ing on growing crops. Mr. NAPIER opposed the amendment. After a few words from Mr. MAGUIRE, Sir J. YOUNG did not think the power of levying on the growing crops was worth having, and he hoped the right hon. gentleman opposite would give way. After a short discussion, in which Mr. Keogh, Mr. Whiteside, Mr. Davison, Mr. Scully, Mr. Hamilton, and Col. Dunne took part, the gallery was cleared for a di vision. No division, however, took place, and on our return to the gallery we found that the house had resumed. The Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod then appeared at the table, and summoned the Commons to the House of Peers to hear the Royal assent given by commission to certain bills. On the return of the Speaker, the house adjourned until six o'clock. The house resumed at 6 o'clock, and was PETITIONS. Petitions were presented by Mr. K. Soymer from the trustees and managers of the Bradford Savings Bank, praying for such alteration s in the Savings Bank Bill as will induce them to continue their services ; by Captain Scobell, from medical gentlemen of Bath and its neigh bourhood, for giving naval medical officers the same ad vantages as military medical officers, and better accom modation to the naval assistant surgeons in the Royal Navy ; by Mr. Kinnaird, from the F re e Kirk o f Cl un y, in favour of the bill for the inspection of nunneries ; by Mr. Cowper, from Hertford, praying for the application of the General Board of Health Bill ; by Mr. C. Berke ley, from the trustees and managers of the Cheltenham and Gloucester Permanent Mutual Benefit Society, and the Cheltenham Permanent Mutual Accumulating Fund Society, against the Registration of Assurances Bill (which were referred to the select committee on that bill); by Mr. Cardwell, from Mr. J. Vincent of Oxford, against the advertisement duty ; by Mr. Hume, from an indi vidual connected with the Bombay press, praying that that publicity might be provided for in the India Bill ; by Mr. Baines from Leeds signed by 18,670 persons, praying for a law to prohibit the opening of public houses and beer-shops on the whole of Sunday, except for the accommodation of lodgers and bona fide travel lers_; by Mr. Miall, from certain Protesta n t Di ssen te r s at Liverpool, against the Government Education Bill ; by Mr. E. Ball, from the Sunday -school teachers of the Baptist chapel at Cambridge, to the same effect ; by Mr. Rolt from Tormorden, in favour of the Ten Hours Bill ; by Mr. M'Cann from Drogheda, against ministers' money ; and by Mr. Pellatt, in favour of ocean penny postage, from the passengers on board th e s hip St an d ar d, bound for Australia ; and from North Shields and the West Riding of Yorkshire, in favour of the People's Charter. THE ISLE OF MAN. Sir J.WALMSLEY presented a petition from the House of Keys of the Isle of Man, praying the house not to pass the resolution now before it, and that, in case of an in crease of duties, the surplus revenue be applied to the pur pose of the island. On the motion of the hon. mem ber, the petition was read by the clerk at the table, and the hon. member gave notice that on Monday he should present a petition from the inhabitants of the Isle of Man to the like effect. THE SALT DUTIES IN INDIA. Sir J. PAKINGTON—I rise to put the question to the President of the Board of Control, of which I have given notice—whether he intends to introduce in the bill for the future government of India any provisions for the purpose of giving greater facilities for the importation of salt into India ? Sir C. WOOD--In answer to the question of the right hon. gentlemen, I beg to say that any legislation on the subject of Customs duties of that kind is passed by the Legislative Council, and not by the Parliament of this country. It may be some comfort to the right hon. gentle man and those on whose behalf he has pat this question, to know that ono of the last papers laid before the house shows the increased import of British salt. In 184849 the quantity imported was 459,030 =lands ; in 1849-50, 624,000"maunds ; and in the six months of the subsequent year, it rather exceeded the amount of the preceding twelve months. Sir J. PAKINGTON—I beg to give notice that it is my intention, at a future stage of the bill, to propose a clalise which shall provide for the object to which I have referred. -.it pi, THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA. Sir H. MADDOCS--I rise to ask the President of the Board of Control, whether it is proposed, after the passing of the bill, to retain the practice of P. O. or previous com munication, in the transaction of busineEs and correspond- opinion with regard to certain circumstances which are occuring abroad. We all know it is very easy to get up in this house or in the country, where people are rather of a pugnacious disposition—(hear, hear, and a laugh)—a feeling, which may seem justified, of a wish to protect the weak against the strong, and that feeling may be pushed to that extent, that all efforts by the Government, how ever friendly and patriotic, to preserve peace may possibly , be frustrated. (Rear.) Now, if I thought the Govern ment at this time was pushing the country to war—a war which would be unpopular in this house and hateful to the people—then I think any one would be justified in insist ing upon discussion, that this house might bring its power to check the Government ; but that is not so on the occa sion before us. I speak particularly of the Prime Minister. So far as his conduct is concerned in this matter I have the utmost confidence in the course he is disposed to take. (Cheers.) I take it for granted that he will maintain peace if it be possible to maintain peace consistently with the character and position of this country. (Renewed cheers.) Well, having that confidence, I think it highly probable the discussion of a question like this, in a popular as sembly, may have the effect of damaging the object which I have so much at heart, and it is because I am of that opinion —not that I shrink from the discussion of any question before this house, or in this house, if oppor tunity rendered it desirable—yet it is because I hold that opinion that I say, though Ministers of course use the phrase when things are to be concealed, that the public service will be injured by discussion. I believe the chances of peace will be damaged if this question, with all the irri tating circumstances connected with it, is brought before the house now ; and having as I have great confidence in the wisdom of Government—their moderation—the con ciliatory course which they are disposed to take under any difficulties of this kind, and hoping that by that course they will be able to keep this country from the untold and inconceivable calamity of hostilities with Russia or any other country, I beg the honourable member not to bring forward his motion now. (Cheers.) lam quite sure that in course of time ho will see the wisdom of the course re commended by the noble lord, and which I should recom mend. It may be some will taunt him with not bringing it forward ; but if, to-morrow or next day, persons in the press, or in this house, or anywhere else, taunt him with want of spirit and neglect of duty, he will have the satis faction of knowing, and it will be acknowledged before long, that he withdrew his motion because he was anxious to help the Government in the steps they are taking to preserve the peace of this country and the peace of Europe. (Cheers.) Sir G. GREY : I rise merely for the purpose of expressing my dissent from the inference which the right honourable gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) draws from the course pursued by her Majesty's Government on the present occasion. He has inferred, as a necessary consequence of that course, that we must now be in a far more disadvantageous position than wo were a week ago—that circumstances of gravity and danger must have arisen in the interval which induced her Majesty's Government to make an appeal to the hon. member for Aylesbury to postpone his motion. I must confess, without pretending to any knowledge of the facts of the case, that I draw a totally different infer ence from that course. (Hear.) The speech of the right honourable gentleman is calculated to produce great and unnecessary alarm. (Hear, hear.) But the inference which I draw is, that the prospect of bringing about an amicable adjustment is better, and the Government apprehend that discussion now, leading to an irritating debate, might tend to mar the prospect of an amicable settlement, which we all desire to see as the result of this question. (Cheers.) Mr. HUME—In all tile experience I have had, it does not occur to my recollection that resistance has ever beam made to such an appeal as that of the noble lord, and being one who has great confidence in the moderation, firmness, and judgment of the First Minister of the Crown, lam disposed, with my hon. friend the member for Manchester, to think the hon. member for Aylesbury will act wisely and prudently in not urging any discussion at present. (Hear.) It is quite true, publicity is on almost all occa sions of advantage, but there are exceptions, and I think this is one. (Hear hear.) The object of this country is to keep at pe ace with the whole world—not that I would have the country ready to submit to insult, or to give up that which would derogate from its honour ; but I think the hon. member w;11 act wisely in giving an opportunity to her Majesty's Government to point out, on an occasion of so much importance, when this discussion shall be brought forward. (Hear.) He must not mind what per sons may say, and I hope that, with the view of promoting peace, or assisting in the amicable arrangement of the present difficulties, he will accede to the wishes of her Majesty's Government. (Cheers.) Lord D. STUART was received with slight ind;cations of impatience. He said—l think I can recal to the re collection of hon. gentlemen a circumstance which may possibly make them think it is not altogether presumptuous in me to address one or two observations to the house on this subject. That circumstance is, that the motion of which my hon. friend the member for Aylesbury has given notice was given notice of by myself some months ago, and when my hon. friend was not in this country. (Hear.) He was then at Constantinople; but on his re turn to his place in Parliament it was the wish of many of his friends and of mine and of those taking a great interest in this subject, that I should make it over to him. I most willingly acceded to their desire, and surrendered it into his hands, convinced that he possessed much greater capa city for doing justice to the subject. Having clone so, I may be supposed to feel peculiar interest in the course which he is about to adopt, and have some title to express my opinion upon it. (Hear, hear.) I certainly do lament the course which her Majesty's Government think it their duty to take on this occasion. I cannot myself see the in jury which is likely to arise from the subject receiving de liberate discussion in this house. I should have thought myself that such a discussion would be likely to strengthen the hands of the Government, supposing they are going to take, as I am ready to suppose, a right and honourable course. I hope they mean to take measures calculated to maintain peace (which I suppose we all desire), and which will not expose us to the reproach of falling away from any engagement or of violating any assurance which this coun try may have given in support of a just cause to any other country. The house will, no doubt, see there is a great advantage in maintaining peace—that peace ought to be maintained by all means consistent with the honour and true interests of this country. (Cheers.) But there is such a thing as having a peace entailing half, if not all, the dis advantages of a war. There is such a state of things as having large armaments, as expensive as if there were war. There is such a state of things as having a forei g n army occupying the territory of anothe r s t a t e , an d sub jecting the inhabitants of that state to all the evils, the expenses, the cruelties, and the sufferings of war, and all in the name of peace. (Hear, hear.) lam desirous of seeing peace maintained, but maintained in such a way as not to sacrifice our interests, nor depart from our gaod faith. (Hear, hear.) I hope that the dexterity and the spirit of the Government will compass both these ends. I should, however, have thought that the nol3le lord (Lord Palmerston) would have been ana - ;ous to grant further in formation • but since the Governm en t tae the responsi bility of asking the hon. gentleman not to press his motion —since they do not feel the necessity of the support of the representatives of the people—(hear hear)—l think there is but one course left to the hon. gentleman (Mr. Layard), and that he cannot, with any propriety, do otherwise than consent to the appeal that has been made to him. But though, under the circumstance; the delay may be assented to, the house and the country will, at the proper time, ex pect, and insist upon having, the fullest information on all these points. They will know whether there has been within the last week, any change as seems to be suspected on the opposite side—(hear, hear)—in the motives and mea sures of the Government. They will be acquainted with all the circumstances which made the Government at ono time apparentlydesirous that this motion should be brought on, and at another that it shall be put off. (Hear.) Mr. LAYARD said that, after what had fallen from the noble lord and others, he had no difficulty in acting on this occasion. After the appeal that had been made to him, he had no hesitation in withdrawing his motion, which, how ever, he would bring on again whenever the public service would admit of his doing so. The subject then dropped. ARMS ACT (IRELAND) Mr. BUTT hoped that, though the noble lord the mem ber for Tiverton had already moved that the house should adjourn at its rising to Monday, he would not be prevented by the forms of the house from answering the question of which he (Mr. Butt) had given notice. This question was to ask the noble lord the Secretary of State for the Home Department, when the intention of her Majesty's Ministers with reference to an Arms Act for Ireland will be stated to the house, and if it is intended to introduce any bill, when that bill will be brought in ? The matter was one of the utmost importance, and iu connexion with he begged to remind the Government of the old maxim, "bis dat qui cito dat." Sir J. YOUNG said that, as had already been stated, the matter was now under consideration of the Govern ment, and due notice would be given of the course they would pursue. Lord NAAS said that the importance of this question was such that the house ought to know distinctly what the intention of the Government was. . . Mr. Af A CARTNEY said that the law as it stood ought not be allowed to expire; he trusted that her Majesty's Ministers were prepared to introduce a big upon the subject. After a few words from Sir W. VERNER, Sir J. YOUNG said he thought he had already ex plained that it was the intention of Government to intro duce a bill. When the measure was matured it would be brought under the consideration of Parliament ing in e bil Mr. N th APIER urged that no ti me s h ould be lost in bring- Mr. S. HERBERT said that as soon as public business permitted the bill would be introduced. The motion that the house at its rising do adjourn until Monday was then put and an to. SUCCESSION DUTY BILL , --PUBLIC BUSINESS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the order of the day in reference to this bill, be read, in order that it might be discharged. On Monday next, after the Committee upon the India Bill, he would bring up certain amendments upon the Succession Duty Bill, chiefly designed to give effect to two or three points on matters which had already been agreed upon. Should any question be likely to arise upon the amendments, the Government would endeavour to bring the Indian debate to a close by ten or eleven o'clock, in order that the amend ments upon the Succession Duty Bill might be considered. The third reading of the bill would be fixed immediately after the debate on the India Bill was concluded ; this ho trusted would occur in the following week, so that the third reading might be looked for on Monday week. The motion was agreed to. GOVERNMENT OF INDIA BILL. Upon the motion that the Speaker do leave the chair, Mr. BLACKETT said that after the division of last week it would be useless to oppose the Government upon this measure. He trusted, however, that right hon. gen tlemen would use their victory prudently, and listen to the reasonable remonstrances of those who did not approve of this measure. The first question to which he would call the attention of the house was as to whether the Court of Directors were willing to remain as they now where with out any commercial character. In the last East India Bill or charter it had been expressly provided in the preamble that the company was to give up its commercial character; the preamble of this bill merely stated that it was expe dient to provide for the government of India. This was a point on which he should like to have the views of the right hon. baronet (Sir C. Wood). Again, as to the system of nominating members of the Court of Directors ; that seemed not to meet with a very favourable reception. , In a letter from the chairman, dated 2nd Juno, 18 0 3 . he stated that, notwithstanding the selection was confined to certain persons, it was very much feared that the per sons nominated would be chosen from political bias. H o thought they were bound to contemplate all adverse con tingencies. Ho wished the President of the Board of Con trol would state what he was prepared to do in the event of the refusal of the Court of Directors to take upon them selves the government of India. The next point c oncerned the very loose way in which this bill was drawn. This measure might be called the Constitutional Act for :thei Indian Empire. It was of a totally different chars ?ter from that of former measures relating to the subject, much as they were all of a temporary nature, whereas this was a permanent measure. The provisions of such a mea sure ought to be simple, clear, and comprehensive ; but what were the characteristics of this m&isure ? He asked the President of the Board of Control whether he hal the slightest idea of the number of enactments revived. Ho hoped he should not be told that this was a question of time, and that Government had not time to do it. Now Government should cut out for themselves only so much work as they could get through satisfactorily. But the only time that could possibly be lost by the reconstruction of this measure would be the time which would be occu pied, which would not be more than a few days, in transcribing the various acts which it was intended to revive, for he supposed when he proposed to revive these acts, he did it from a deliberate knowledge of their contents. The first clause he thought ought to be post poned. . . Sir C. WOOD said the first point raised by the hon. member was, did he feel confident that the Court of Direc tors and the proprietors of East India stock would consent to remain trustees for the government of India if the bill passed in its present shape. He had not the slightest red - son to think they would not. With regard to the second question, he confessed he did not quite understand his lion. friend when he said he wished the clause to be reconsidered in order that it might be brought forward in a more rea sonable shape, unless he meant that all the existing sta tutes with reference to India should be repealed and re enacted. (Hear, hear.) That certainly was intelligible, but that was a totally different thing from postponing the clause with a view of bringing it forward in a more satis factory shape. He did not mean to say that consolidating all the acts would not be a desirable course, but it would be a gigantic task to consolidate all the acts relating to India, and if they were to attempt to do it there would be no Prospect of accomplishing it this season. Mr. BRIGHT said the right hon. gentleman had just given the sort of answer he expected. He • said it would be a gigantic undertaking. Well he (Mr. Bright) thought this bill snowed that with regard to India, the right hon. gentleman was not competent to undertake anything of a gigantic character. - But if it were a gigantic labour to consolidate these laws, it must be a matt er a l mos t o f i m • possibility for individuals to find out what the law was with regard to India. The argument the right hon. gen tleman used was just the strongest possible argument for consolidation. The learned member for the University of Dublin had undertaken a measure of this nature With re gard to the laws affecting landlord and tenant in Ireland, and, when he was Attorney-General, consolidated 200 acts of Parliament, and put them all into one bill. (Hear, hear.) He put them before a committee ; the bill was passing through the house, and he believed all connected with Ireland would admit that the result of that labour would be a vast benefit to Ireland. Then Sir Robert Peel on one occasion consolidated acts connected with the cri minal law amotintine• ' to about 100; and not long ago the Chairman of Inland Revenue proposed to consolidate the law with respect to the soap duties, which comprised 30 acts of Parliament. Surely if in these matters consolida tion was desirable, it was more desirable when interests of such magnitude were at stake. He thought the right hon. gentleman had made a most flimsy excuse • for not having done what it was his duty to do. Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE said it was scarcely credible that they were legislating for 100 millions of people in such a way. The right hon. gentleman said it was a Herculean task to consolidate the acts. If he was not prepared to undertake that Herculean task they ought not to legislate at all. Mr. HUME said it would have been more honourable in the Government if they had taken time to bring forward a bill suitable to the importance of the object, and more especially seeing that it was not a temporary bill, but a bill that was to continue for an indefinite time. He con sidered that the two points submitted by the honourable member for Newcastle were unanswered and unanswerable. The principle was introduced into that house 20 years ago, that when a bill effected other acts, they should be re pealed and re-enacted. Three committees had . laid that down with respect to private bills. He did not wish to destroy the East India Company ; he wished to see a good law enacted, by which the company could carry on the government of that country ; and he thought the Govern ment would have acted wisely in bringing in a continuance bill for one or two years, to enable them afterwards to bring in a proper bill, and worthy of the object they had in view. He ventured to say there was never an instance of a bill being brought forward which was so crude as this. He did not believe that in the pettiest, paltriest parish vestry in the country, the village Solons would have acted like the Government in the present instance. They would, never have attempted to come to a decision until the com mittee they had appointed to inquire into the subject had made their report. Parliament had nol yet hoard the na tives, and surely the least they could do, if they made up their minds to hang a man, was to hear him first. (A. laugh.) Before they legislated they ought to have dis covered first whence the abuses had arisen ; for abuses, no doubt there had been. The revenues of India had been wasted in wars which had been entered into without the con currence of the company. The Affghan war, which had cost 1.5,000,000/., had had very little to do with India. After the eulogiuni the right hon. baronet had passed upon the Court of Directors, why should he destroy it, at least un til the termination of the period to which the present bar gain between the Government and the company extended —namely, the year 1874 ? No doubt the present institu tions of India wanted mending, but the present measure only disturbed and unsettled everything, without making any material improvement. On these grounds he should join in the protest of the hon. gentleman against the un statesmanlike character of the bill. (Hear, hoar.) The SPEAKER then left the chair. On clause 1, Mr. PHINN moved to leave out the words " until Par liament shall otherwise prove," in the first lino ; and in the third line, after the word "shall," to insert " be go verned by and in the name of her Majesty, her heirs and successors." The house had affirmed, by a. large majority, two propositions—first, that it was desirable to legislate during the present session ; and secondly, that the East India Company should be retained as an instrument for managing that country. It still remaiued, however, for the house to decide on the extent and the manner in which the influence of the Crown should be exercised. The prin ciple of his amendment had been supported by Mr. Fox, Lord Grenville, and other great statesmen ; and if it was a matter of some importance in those days, when the different India bills were mere leases from the Crown to the com pany, it became still more so at the present time, when Par liament was proposing to legislate permanently, and for an uncertain period. (Hear, hear.) for the words " till Parliament shall otherwise provide," they were a mere pleonasm ; for of course Parliament would always retain the power of altering any arrangements they might now choose to make. The hon. baronet the member for Roches-. ter (Sir T. Maddock), the lion. member for the West Rid ing, and another right hon. member, who had been Presi dent of the Board of Control, had all argued in favour of asserting the authority of the Crown; but the right hon. baronet (Sir C. Wood) did not in his able reply, at all ad vert to the subject. It had therefoye appeared to him (Mr. Phinn) desirable that the specific question should be submitted to Parliament, whether tine Government of Lelia should or should not be carried on b, what had been designated by more than one of the witnesses as a sham ? On the whole, then, he (Mr. Phinu) thought the time had come when Parliament ought to pronounce a distinct opinion upon the question, and with that view he begged to move the amendments. (Hear.) Mr. LOWE objected to the first tmendment, on the ground that it would afford a plea to the noble lord (Vis count Jocejyn), who had a motion on the paper, for limit ing the duration of the bill. The reason for limiting for mer acts arose from the company having been then a corn • mercial body ; and, therefore, all those acts were in the nature of contracts ; but as that state of things had ceased the necessity for limitation had also passed away. The effect of the old system was to make people sleep till the time for the renewal of the charter approached, and then every species of complaint suddenly came to light. He (Mr. Lowe) thought it was high time that such a system should come to an end ; and that the plan of lettin g the wheat and tare grow up together till' the harvest, had better not be applied to our Indian Government. On the contrary, they had better always keep their field as well weeded as possible. If a man had any bodily ailments he (lid not think of letting them increase and become more complicated in order that ho might have them eradicated by some scientific treatment at once; but he endeavoured to have each case cured as soon as it manifested its pre sence. What, therefore, was good for the human body was equally desirable for the body politic. He (Mr. Lowe) did not see how anything like a healthy public opinion with regard to India could over be created unless India was understood to be always a subject upon which the Im perial Parliament could legislate. (Hear, hear.) He was quite aware that the words proposed to be struck out were mere surplusage ; but he nevertheless 'desired to retain them in order that the Indian people might be assured that though their rulers dwelt in a distant land, the Im perial Legislature was always ready to consider and cor rect any evils that might arise in the government of its Indian possessions. (Hear, hear.) Lord STANLEY supported the amendment, and con tended that, if it were carried, it would not do away with the double government. It proposed no alteration in the form of the; home government, and could not, therefore, be said to interfere with the double government. Of all the witnesses who had been examined not one had said that the change proposed would be ; injurious. This was, to a great extent, a question of names ; but, so far as the native princes, and all classes in Ihdia, were concerned, the alteration would be a most favourable one. After a few words from Sir C. WOOD, on a point of order, Mr. PHINN said he was willing to take any course which would disembarrass the discussion. _ After a conversation the amendment was withdrawn. Lord JOCELYN then moved an amendment, of which he had given notice, to continue the act till the 30th April, 1864. It appeared to him that it was the duty of the committee to take such a course that the subject should necessarily come before Parliament again at the end of a certain period; and it was important, when this took place that it should not be brought forward as a pa rt Y question. Ten years, he thought, was a period which would allow the experiment to be fairly tried. If the measure were found not to promote tho interests of the people of India it would then be for Parliament to legis late in another direction. Whatever measure were passed ought to have a fair trial, and the period of ten years was not too short for this. It had bean objected that bills re lating to colonial government were not passed fora limited Period ; but the cases were not at all parallel. It had also been said that by fixing a period for the duration of this act, it would cripple Parliament in reference to any al terations er modifications that might be required earlier. . He did not think it would have that effect at all. If ho believed that any member of Parliament had power to bring forward the question whenever it might be necessary, with any chance of being heard, ho should have refrained from proposing this a mendment. Mr. M. MILNES opposed the amendment. He believed that the government about to bo established would be a good government, and that the affairs of that country would be well administered. Mr. HUME thought it unnecessary to fix any period. He would leave the matter entirely open, to be.dealt with after Mr. B a L A fe C w K w E o T rd T s u fr p o po m rte s d ir t it he . A ame D n D d o m by Parliament at any time. in favour the amendment, Mr. RICH said the bill was a mere experiment, and they ought to ensure th e su bj ect b e i ng again brought before Parliament. He sh ou ld most certainly support the amend ment as ensuring the question again coming beforeparlia ment. Mr. V. SMITH said the inevitable result of the amend ment would be to bar all discussion until the end of the 10 years. This had been to a great extent the case when the charter was renewed for 20 years. When ho was Secretary of the Board of Control they had the greatest difficulty in procuring an attendance in the house to discuss any Indian question. 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