The Sun. — London, England, 1853-07-06 00:00:00

RAILWAY .I.N TELL IGEN CE. I MONEY MARKET AND COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY.) DEVON AND DORSET RAILWAY BILL. SPECIAL REPORT. Mr. Beckett reported from the committee on group (NN) of railway bills, who were empowered to make a special report so far as relates to the Devon and Dorset Railway Bill, that they had agreed to the following special report : " That in arriving at the decision that the allegations contained in the preamble of the bill had not been proved to their satisfaction, your committee have not lost sight of the urgent necessity for filling up the gap in railway communication which at present exists between Dor chester and Exeter, nor do they doubt that the Devon and Dorset Line, which has come under their inves tigation, would supply th a t d e fi c i enc y f or all purposes of local traffic. But taking a wider view of the subject, and listening to evidence adduced in the progress of this investigation from authorities of high consideration, your committee feel the importance of a railway communication upon one uniform guage between Exeter and London in a north-easterly direction via Axminster and Salishary, and of another from Exeter to Portsmouth and the east coast via Dorchester ; and, believing that a communication so desirable could not be attained if the Devon and Dorset railway bill now proposed should receive the sanction of Parliament, they are of opinion that they are best pro moting the public welfare by giving an opportunity in the next session of Parliament for the establishment of one uniform guage throughout the above district. " Your committee would, however, have hesitated to reject the bill before them had it not been proved in evidence that the proprietors in the London and South- Western Railway Company, at a recent public meeting, had authorised and requested their directors to pledge that company to apply to Parliament at the earliest period for powers to construct an extension of their railway from Dorchester to Exeter ; and, had the committee not re ceived from the same company, through their chairman (Mr. Scott, a member of this house) a clear and distinct assurance in his evidence, and in a letter subsequently given in, that in the next session of Parliament that company will introduce and use their best endeavours to obtain an act for autho rising such extension of their railway ei on the narrow gauge—such extension t o b e of anf to comprise a doubl e li ne of ‘ent character, and a had a similar assur ance from Mr. S, e tt The th a c t o , m i n m i t t h t e ee ey a e l a s also of such an extension heincr sanctioned by Parliament, the London and South-Westernßailway Company would im mediately th erea f ter proceed to double their existing rail way betw een S outha ing until the obltig a tmi ton n a d n o d s D o r e c a h e e t s t o e n r, , t w h e i t m h o b u y t i h t e - Southampt on an 1 Dorchest er R a il way A c t , 1845 , ' s h a ll come into operation. " The following letter from Mr. Scott, addressed t• the chairman of yrcommittee, was rece i ve d an d cons id ere d by your committee " " ' London, July 1, 1853. Sir,---With reference to the case of th e D evon an d Dorset Railway, and the railway communication of the district it was proposed to serve, I beg, as chairman of the London and South-Western Railway Company, and as their representative, acting under the authority of the resolu tions of the proprietors at their public meeting on the 19th May last, to repeat the pledge which in the course of my evidence before the committee I intended, with all dis tinctness, to give, viz.— " ' That th London and South -Western Railway Com pany will, in the next session of Parliament, introduce and use their best endeavours to carry a bill authorising an extension of their railway from Dorchester to Exeter, on the gauge of the London and South Western Railway, themselves finding the necessary capital, and taking all the the p wo rks roper with a dispatch. And I have no hesitation in adding that the company will, will, if such extension line be granted to them, immedi ately proceed to double the line between Southampton and Dorchester, without waiting for the period at which the obligation to do so might come into operation under the exlsting provisions of the Southampton and Dorchester Act. " The resolutions of the Company with respect to the making of the extension line from Dorchester to Exeter enable m e t o assure you, and I do assure you, that the line to b e 'Proposed shall be a satisfactory and efficient one, and, in accordance with the pledge given by Mr. Hope Scott, shall compri se a d ou bl e li ne of way.—l am, s i r, your very ithful and obedient servant, _ Wm. Beckett, E sq ., M.P., " FRANCIS SCOTT. Chairman of th© Railwuy Group (NN).'" SERVICE OF PLATE TO THE BISHOP OF LINCOLN.—The Service of plate subscribed for by the parishioners of St. James's, Westminster, as a memorial to their late rector upon his elevation to the see of Lincoln, was presented on Monday to the right rev. prelate, by the committee acting for the parishioners. The value of the plate was about 700/., and it was understood that it was to be on view during the last three days of this week at the makers', Messrs. Wilkinson and Dobson. Piccadilly. NEW LAMPS FOR OMNIBUSES.—By the new Act, which comes into force on Monday, it is enacted that the pro prietor of every metropolitan stage carriage shall cause to be placed inside such carriage a lamp, in such position and manner as shall be directed by the Commissioners of Police, and the conductor, or if there be no conductor, the driver of such carriage shall keep the lamp properly lighted whenever such carriage shall be used to ply for or carry passengers at any time after sun-set and before Sun rise. DETECTION OP IRON SHILLINGS AND SOVEREIGNS.— By applying a small pocket magnet to a counterfeit coin of the above kind, it is instantly attracted, and may thus be lifted up from a table, whereas genuine coins are unaffected. A delicately suspended magnetic needle is a still more sensitive indicator. TRIAL TRIP OF THE STEAM-SHIP GREAT BRITAIN.— The alterations in this noble screw steam-ship having ;jeen c ompleted, she yest er d a y morn i ng, at n i ne o ' clock, left her dock, t o t es t i n a tr i al tr i p her merits under her of h altered circumstanc es , an d par ti cu l ar l y the capabilities her new screw (Griffiths). The following extract from a letter from Captain Claxton, giving the details of the trip, shows how very satisfactory it has been, and the high rate of speed attained by the Great Britain : " The very strong breeze of wind by which we were fa.voured, enabled your office rs to t es t th e s t a bility an d the speed of the ship under canvas, with the screw in Action, fixed, and disconnected. With all the sails set that were bent (far short of her compliment) cleanful, no ship could be stiffer, showing a capability of carrying almost any amount of canvas that can by possibility be put upon her, and with the engines averaging eighteen revolutions, a speed of twelve and a half knots was at tained, and if at that time circumstances had permitted of her being run to leeward, I have no kind of doubt whatever that she would have gone over fourteen knots, or sixteen miles and a third. With the same screw fixed perpendicularly, and the ship close hauled, she went ten knots, to my very greafastonishment, and that I beli eve of every nautical man 'on board ; while with the screw disconnected, and revolving, her speed was not quite ten, thereby apparently proving that Griffiths's screw need never be disconnected ; a matter of first-rate importance to auxiliary steam navigation." HUDDERSFIELD, July s.—ln woolle is of medium quality a fair average business has been done to-day. In low class goods there has been a good demand in the Cloth Hall, some heavy parcels having been sold ; also fair orders given for goods of low make, which are chiefly made by the small makers or clothiers in the villages round about, as Longwood, G olcar, and Batley, &c. Most of them are very busy, in fact they never were in so prosperous a state as at present. We have had some few foreign buyers, but they have not made any heavy Purchases. Most of the goods have been bought by sipping h ouses i n th e town, who are generally very sissy. SCARCITY OF SEAMEN.—It is a fact worthy of notice, f e d scarcely any vessels have left the southern Welch ' this year for North America which have not car e out with them full and heavy cargoes of iron in lieu steadBai'' in ballast, as customary ; and that vessels, in r. of laying up during the winter season, have been be inferred actively employed. The demand for shipping may consid e r a bl e from the large number of foreign ships of sable size which frequent Cardiff; Newport, good Swansea,freights Bristol, Gloucester, &c. and - readily'obtain at greatest greatest difficulty is still felt in obs taining e' s g h b i t p B coals, and small enlaasoderate freights for the shipment of mission of the b,asevessels are taken up for the trans the ocean steam ikdlam°lld" tothe coal depots of still felt in eqnceof companies.th, e greathe scarcity domand ofofr seamenshippingis a')road, and many veasusdelsnonave ablewaited for a long time ftit want of hands, caught at. w seamen are eagerly FR GHTFUL SUICIDE.—Mr. Frederick Cope,aju h n., the and F. only son of Mr. Frederick Cope, of Oak Dank onto-H ar dy, near Manchester, of the firm o f Cope, of Exchange-street, committed suicid e by shootill was married to Mr. himself, under the most lamentable circumstances, no Friday evening. O n Wednesday the eldest siste r of the deceased gentleman, Miss B. A.Cope, Josiah Hunt, of London, at the Cathedral, and am ongst the guests invited to the ceremony was a young lad to wh om t h e unfortunate gen tl eman was engaged. On Wednesday he was in excellent spirits, but since that tim e h e had been observed to be very melancholy, in c onsequenc e o f hi s f ancy i ng th a t he perceived a lack of affection on the part of the lady, although he was as sured he was mistaken. About 6 o'clock . ho went up into his b e d room and afterwards shot h i mself through the h eart with a gun. Mr. Partington, surgeon, who had n o t l eft the house more than three minutes, was fortunate nediat e l y sent for, but on his return he found t h e un s gentleman quite dead.—Manchester Courier. aria tells us that the proposed Palace of Industry there Is at last in a fair way of being carried out, an English c t a l i n P o anY) with a Mr. York at his head, having . under the The plans of Messrs. Viel and Desjardins, istliieena,lciltiltects of those who first obtained the " conees to be used in a modified form, but another M it, Sandri4 will direct the works, aided by with as' e b e le in i • The imprOvements of the Bois de Boulogne w g proceeded with, and include a lake and river, the i s k ate rfall, and good roads about them. Islands in rne ntm e,will be connected with the main land by orna the anitiuridges. Our correspondent further says that council 2 ,0001, has been voted by the Municipal dea skst s ° r a flou , r statues in bronze to embellish the Pont d . uce then,, chosen Buret having undertaken to pro- Sculptura4 for subjects, Architecture, Paint- Susis sE4 s $ and Music.—The Builder. leY, Silk Bankruptcy of Mr. E. Blake- Majesty . __ l ,.. e isc-ser ill Mr. 13141s"eleadditi° and Shawl Manufacturer to her n to the rich silks and shawls selling off b y 3s3i' stock, recen tl y purc h ase d an d now Westminster-brig"B- Atkin son an d C o ., of 69 to 75, beautiful Freneis'Apnd, there are about 2,000 pieces of tres, all quite new-111411ns, Bareges, and Norwich Lus 4s. per yard. These Lrst-ni.,...5s goods, worth from 21d. to kirison and C o. at i es ll now being sold by Messrs. At is, from bid . to is. o - Lran a quarter of their value ; that mended to inspect these Ladies are respectfully recom- Messrs. Atkinson quality, and cheapness " g' i ods, in order that their extent, their premises, haveann d r nay be duly appreciated. N.B. Furniture, superior Cabin having recently enlarged_ ? v i a Very extensive assortment of iVeekly Ti mm e, Carpets and Upholstery.— CITY, TWO O'CLOCK. The sales of cotton at Liverpool were estimated at 8,000 bales, of which 2,500 American were taken for export and on speculation The sales comprised 7,500 American ' • 150 Egyptian, at 6,111. to 1 7id. ; and 300 Surat, at 31d. to 41d. per lb. Railway shares wore dull, without much change in prices. A cargo of 50,000 pines has been received by Messrs. Keelinc , and Hunt, per Trinity yacht, Hounsell, master, 27 days from Elenthera, being the first arrival of the season. Several vessels were taking in cargoes for New York, and the planters were deriving considerable benefit from the trade. The Board of Trade returns for the month and five months ending the sth ult. During the month there was an increase in the importations of cocoa, wheat, barley, oats, rye, Indian corn, cotton yarn, flax hemp, pepper, and brandy ; and a falling off in coffee, flour, cotton manufactures, guano, opium, rice, saltpetre, cinnamon, cloves, rum, unrefined sugar and tallow. The exports show an increase in beer and ale, cheese, coal, and culm, linen yarn, salt, and thrown silk, and a diminution in cotton manufactures, cotton yarn, soap, refilled sugar, and wools. The tonnage of vessels entered inwards and cleared outwards during the month, compared with the corresponding period of last year, gives the fol- lowing result : ENTERED INWARDS. CLEARED OUTWARDS. 1852 1853 Increase 55,448 I Decrease 39,145 The month's exports from the United Kingdom o the sth June stood as follows :- 1852 1853 . £5,935,633 7,123,191 Increase £1,187,558 Parties in the Australian trade will be inte rested in knowing that the trial trip of the Great Britain, auxilary screw steam-ship, for the purpose of testing the capabilities of her new screw, and more especially her sailing powers ur der her new rig— a full clipper ship, has been perfectly satis factory. Captain Clapton, Wm. Patterson, Esq., the builder of the Great Britain, and several other gen tlemen of great nautical experience, went out to witness the vessel's performances, which took place in the Irish Channel on Monday and Tuesday, and all without exception gave it as their opinion, we are informed, that the patent screw was demon strated by the results, to be a great improvement ; but the most agreeable surprise to all on board was the " doings" of this leviathian under canvass ; in fact, we are informed, that it leaves not the shadow of a doubt, but that if those screw steam-ships in the Australian trade which have been built like this ship on clipper "lines," were transformed, as the Great Britain has been, from a screw steamer with the assistance of canvas in fine weather and with fair winds, to a sailing ship with auxiliary screw steam power in bad weather, foul winds, and calms, our southern possessions may with regu larity be reached under sixty days. The Great Britain's antecedents under steam are well known to have exceeded the expectations of her most sanguine admirers. It is therefore super fluous to give any quotations from her log under steam only ; suffice it to say that she sailed as fast and steered even better than she did on her voyage from New York last spring. The foggy state of the weather did not permit the vessel being tried " with a wind," but "on a wind." She showed on the patent log 10 nautical miles per hour under canvass, screw fixed upright, motion less—with steam, Bilbs. pressure, and canvass, 121 nautical miles per hour ' - hence it is inferred by those able to give a sound opinion on nautical subjects, that with steam and canvass set "with a wind," 14i nautical miles per hour may with con fidence be expected. There was rather more firmness yesterday after ternoon in the foreign exchanges. On Paris, 90 days' bills were taken at 25.221 to 25 ; on Amster dam, at 11.181 to ;on Hamburgh, at 13.71 to ; and on Trieste, at 11-4 to 6. The English Stock Market has been very buoyant again, and there is still a confident impression that ussia and Turkey have agreed to accept Austrian mediation. Great difference of opinion prevails concerning the interpretation to be put upon the manifesto of the Emperor of Russia— some considering it favourable, others the re verse. Consols have been 97i to 981 ex dividend for special transfer. Stock appears to be scarce, and the payment of the dividends would have an immediate and decided effect if foreign politics were auspicious. The New 3± per Cents. have been 1011 I, and the 3 per Cents. 98i Bank Stock is steady at 229 k. Exchequer Bills have been done at is. to 55., and Indian Bonds at 255. premium. East India Stock is at 2571 ex.-div. Foreign Securities have been more dealt in, but without any marked alteration in prices. Spanish 3 per Cents. Deferred have been at 22± to and the Certificate has ranged from 5 i to 6 k. Portu guese Small Bonds, ex-coupons, have been quoted 37. Brazilian Old 5 per Cents. have been at 99k, and the 4-i per Cents. at 98g. The Greek Blue Bonds have been at Bto 81. Mexican Stock, after being 27, has receded to 261. Russian 5 per Cents. have been done at 117 to 1, being very firm, and Dutch 4 per Cents. have touched 961. The Sardinian Bonds have been dull at 93-k. The Railway Share Market is very well sup ported, by sympathy with Stocks, but the trans actions are not numerous. North-Western, York, and North Midland, Great Western, and Cale donian have been chiefly asked for. French Shares are in more request. Gold Mines and Banks are firmer. Land Com panies steady. The following statement is from the monthly circular of Messrs. Lamond and Co. : " Throughout the whole of June, the only topic en grossing public consideration has been the probable result of the differences between Russia and Turkey. Every other question has been regarded as of secondary importance, attention being alone directed to the solu tion of this great difficulty. However unpromising appearances, and however unfavourable the nature of these reports, there has been from the commencement of the negotiation, and there continues to be, a strong feeling that peace will not be interrupted, and it is solely through the enormous preponderance of this impression, that business generally has been main tained at anything like a point approaching activity. Even now it is clear that the ultimatum of the Czar has been rejected by the Porte, confidence in a satis factory adjustment is not abandoned, and although operations in the various departments of commerce and finance are being gradually limited, in order to prevent large losses, should an adverse movement take place, the hope almost universally expressed is, that a pacific arrangement may speedily be effected. The prospect of some period elapsing before the points in dispute arc brought within manageable compass has from the early part of the month induced the operators at the Stock Exchange to restrict their transactions ; and since the settlement on the 15th, so little has been done in the several markets, that prices have remained from day to day without sensible alteration. A course of proceeding such as this was to have been anticipated, because the brokers and jobbers have naturally, with the chances of peace or war before their eyes, refrained from accepting business, especially that of a speculative character." BRITISH FUNDS THIS DAY. ( From the Oficial List.) ........ .. 1 . . . . . . . .... . . . .. .. .. .. ... .. i .12a 8u5ine55 009,1291581,857555ai6, 7fiiilli DAY. Ditto i d iy o done. e . dx d ............ 2 , 24 9 331 B un a pai n iecii k aia; Sto c k . Reduced Annuities Cent. k C Bst c o n Consols Annuities . ............... - $ 1, - 9 i New ii t 3 t ,: , p u e n r a C ei e . n: l . ooo Annuities Exebequkiesr, B .L i l il o s o 0 25 __South Sea New Annuities uonsols for Account BraPz : B ; nllls : 97: n :l in °. ds ....P , .. 5.11.:(31:::::E......1:41.N1 .... FUNDS. : :: : : : : : : .. : : : THIS 984' 8 I a Ditto Now, 1821).e.rC..e.u..t Cuba Bonds, 6 per cent Per Cent Greek Bonds, R e d Ditto, Blue ............... Mexican 3 per Cea . Portuguese Bonds, 4 Per 7 2 7 '1 ft A 7 Ditto Ex all over-duoeo-tt„. Russian Bonds, 5 per Cent....°' Coupons• ..... .. Sailitntioan%poeniClsC,esntp.er Ceni .. .. 100 100 7 - 1 d Spanish New Deferred, 3 per Cent„ •..... 93., Ditto Passive (Converted) ......•, 24 ........ Spanish Committee Cert. of Coup. •not f i ;;,* 5 i " ft x d Swedish Loan ........ ..... ••••••• ..... ... T .. ff .... R E " Dividends on the above payable In '- ' 2 London, Dutch Exchange, 21 per Cont. Ditto 4 per Cent. Certificates 96 5i 6 i X d 8 36- 4 1 0 0 1, c P . Consols for Opening 19th July 9B i a x ci COLD WATER STEAM-ENGlNE. — Ye sterda y aftern oon we visited the machine shop of Messrs. Burge and John. ston, to witness the performance of a new engine, styled as above, and recently invented by Mr. Edward D. Tip pett. The steam is produced without boilers, by simply injecting cold water into generators. The amount of steam required to force out or return the piston rod is made by the introduction to the influence of the fire at each moment of precisely the quantity of water needed, thus doing away with the necessity of boilers. It is claimed that there is no possibility of an explosion, that greater power is obtained, and less room occupied for the necessary machinery. The water falls into the engine, being first raised by a force-pump into a reservoir situa ted above the engine, and thence inducted down as wan ted. The engine is a singularly constructed piece of mechanism, both in appearance and mode of operating. —Cincinnati Gazette. TY. ng of con profession, cation, my Certificate ess of those , and that cation, nor lined from arties (from elity in the universally it exertions would say on, I must i upon this public the now doing. .ence to this great loss in the in )ss there is at least to Iy, which, if reference to rior Courts, erious, that icers of the instead of at this has 1 far supe )3r fees ; but are not de- .e so free as s merely in ox ct pretc e profession I when no the Exche on London quite ample ms to think h, notwith at time the in the law her sustain meditates to to it, and than it did feeling he luty, and if a-year, to eeeding the Luty---‘‘ The he wieke d." the Exe he- y has bi :en See that his or adknc 'w it was w. ith eimpositic ,n• is colours to rather tli an and ignot Ictly under, r• :ed to set ui • it is sup ' Ling of law belonged to ' e duty was then been v it may in ;3 1 overnmenfi s rack that, be duty for.. •y places tht ► I that many' be at all but ; 10, and the When the Lave thought did so, in ense of jus rabile dictu I juickly 1 It reeive, that rther. They at least that )t from any he medi wen-han died, e good he h the ve:;t' fork no iv' is power :to e altogether en have %vitt the certify ijury which likely to do r heard It et, that the Court bug' ttorneys), i 0 the sum eV If so, t►es' matter, a 3 their propel' of the Eg' is a gefi nceive hod taken fro/ 0 been mad ® Tiginally be' as if he col,' on generalli nsidered by :ercise of L has been and nothing mass those )r whatever and money' ly, to all hi werty ought rom him the his wife aria )f life which :t his mina lot charge(' )lihood were, than that c 4 horn this tai my opiniorl , rectors and ancers, the attorneys, the law• tax is not 0 t alone, but rly paid for , erived from that certi• Lttorney's or end in such night, with Lo difference I to the pro' I beg to )servations ion for AO neoroe tax, men whose Honourable t portion of against an t. on small justice may mes do not :, which, in• wen to nine the highet forgotten, which, by' he payment ig had been ficate duty, ►t of it. In :ven-handed away with ce towards is exaction, It will add Is of actual the procure' 31y declared to obtain, Here we cause exists of the Ea' nor feeling nger of the lasses. the proper Is tax. i been cava• hopes de' and no time tted by the in a more , assed—la' ) profit 14, 'l7 well ax forbear, : 1, t ended tlevi total of the icate duty i° I the Char 'or taxation he presen t never cav i l is tax is at' for of the at. There' 1 the de' justice for and inne" nt servants IRNEY. census re• int country 6bitants to lent of the es (11,0 9 1846, the cent. ed througP overnulen t Esq., 3c !' Scotlailo? rnment 01. •aff.. THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 6, 1853 SHARE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. BRITISH RAILWAYS. Shr. IP, id.l RAILWAYS. Leasing Compans. Closing Prices this day. Business this day. rid I RAILWAYS. Closing Prices this day. Business dons this day. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) JUVENILE MENDICANCY BILL. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY, in moving the recom mitment of this bill, observed that the subject of juve nile mendicancy, at all times one of great importance, became still more so, at a time like the present, when they were about to abolish, at all events to a considera ble extent, the system of transportation. People were weary of speeches and pamphlets respecting secondary punishments, and, indeed, it would be much wiser if they were to inquire whether some steps could not be taken to diminish the amount of crime itself. Now, the most prolific source of crime was juvenile mendicancy : for though they ought not to consider the class to whom he wished to call their lordships' attention as exactly de linquents, yet they were in a state in which they must infallibly become delinquents at no distant period. In fact, that class, namely, children who had been trained to beg by their parents, or those who had the custody of them—formed the seed plot of at least two-thirds of the criminality of this kingdom. The persons most to blame were the parents, next society, and, least of all, the un fortunate children themselves. From the statements of 90 thieves, who were living in one reformatory institu tions, it appeared that 62 of that number had begun to steal when under the age of 15 ; and that 56 had begun between the ages of 12 and 16. He (the noble lord) believed that if an inquiry were instituted throughout all the gaols in the kingdom, the result would be to prove beyond a doubt that a vast proportion of all the crime that was committed in this country had been perpetrated by persons who had been led into evil habits at an early ago. He (Lord Shaftesbury) had put the following question to 100 City missionaries and Ragged School teachers :—" How many persons do you think who have lived an honest life up to 20 years of age, afterwards fall away and take vicious courses ?" The answer he had obtained was in every case, "not two in a hun dred." (Hear, hear.) The class to which he was calling their lordships' attention might be divided into two classes, mendicants and vagrants. (Hear, hear.) The former of these had their different grades, honours, and emoluments. A juvenile mendicant might attain to be a begging-letter writer; and he could assure the noble earl opposite (Lord Aberdeen) that he had few more comfortable things to dispose of than a suc cessful begging-letter writership. (Laughter.) Many of these children were orphans ; some having lost one parent, some both. It was a remarkable fact, but no more remarkable than true, that there was no more pro lific source of juvenile vice, misery, and suffering than the harsh and domineering demeanour of step-mothers, many of whom in the lower grades of life would not allow a step-child to remain with them in the house. (Hear, hear.) But it was also true that many artisans in the receipt of large wages were in the habit of turn ing their children into the streets early in the morning, forbidding them to come near their home till late at night, and telling them to live in the meantime as they could. The noble earl having substantiated this state ment by extracts from the report of the Rev. Mr. Clay, the chaplain of Preston gaol, added that a City mis sionary had told him that he could enumerate no fewer than 100 families in which the parents lived in idleness and luxury upon what their children picked up in the course of the day's vagrancy and mendicancy. The practice of such persons was to send out their chil dren with chalkstones, cocoa nut husks, and the like, and to threaten them with the most brutal ill treatment unless they brought home a certain sum, to be made up either by selling, begging, or stealing. One great reason which had been alleged against legislation with a view to prevent such scandalous misconduct on the part of parents was the presum e d ex t en t o f th e ev il, which had led many persons to doubt whether it was not too large to be dealt with at all. It was, however, consolatory to know that the extent of the mischief had been greatly exaggerated. From the second report of Cap tain Hay it appeared that the number of children at large in the metropolis, living in idleness, without edu cation, and neglected by their parents, who were, gene rally speaking, in the receipt of wages sufficient to maintain them, was nearly 20,641 under fifteen years of age. The number of practised and trained mendicants and vagrants who frequented lodging-houses, did not, however, exceed 3,098. Of these the number who had parents able to contribute either wholly or in part to their maintenance and education was no fewer than 2,106. This return was confirmed by the inquiries which had beem made by a person whom he (the noble earl) had employed last year to investigate the subject. That person said that he knew himself no fewer than 200 practised medicants and vagrants, whose parents were in the receipt of at least 16s. per week--a, sum that ought to enable them not merely to give their children sustenance but education. He really did not think, then, that the number of juvenile mendicants either in London or throughout the country (for the proportion would be found the same in most of the large towns) was so large as to discourage legislation. The whole number of professional thieves and burglars in the whole of the metropolis was under 6,000 ; and, therefore, he thought that the estimate of 3,098 mendicant children was very likely to be correct. It was true they some times heard it said that there were 100,000 persons in London who rose every morning without knowing where to get a meal, but be believed that these statements were immensely exaggerated. He did not think they had ever been true, and certainly they were never less so than at the present moment. They could not ascer tain the number of offenders from the number of of fences, for the latter was swelled by several offences committed by one person. It was sometimes said that poverty was the cause of crime and beggary. Such was not the case. Serjeant Adams had told him that the ability of persons who sent their children into the streets to have maintained them without doing so was the rule, and not the exception. Mr. Clay had asked a great number of thieves a similar question with respect to stealing ; and they said they only knew one case in which crime had been the result of poverty. (Hear, hear.) One of the great causes of crime was the reckless and careless manner in which property was exposed. Thus it appeared that there were in a single year in Londen, 1,479 cases of stealing goods exposed for sale ; 596, stealing from unfinished houses ; 211, stealing from carts ; 228, stealing linen hung to dry; and 1,920, stealing in consequence of doors being left open. When they considered the hardships to which poor children were exposed, the hunger they actually suffered, and the brutality to which they were exposed if they did not take home a certain sum, was it to be wondered at if they succumbed to the temptations thrown in their way. (Hear, hear.) From the testimony of a number of professional thieves who had been examined on the point, it was said that the reason why children were sent out to beg generally lay in the idle and debauched habits of their parents, that children were hired for begging purposes, sometimes at as much as 2s. 6d. per diem, and that children often picked up as much as 3s. a day. The existing law of vagrancy was utterly inadequate to meet the evil, for what was really wanting was that the children should be removed from their parents, and that the latter should be made to pay for their support. That was the object of his (Lord Shaftesbury's) bill ; and that, he thought was quite in accordance with the practice of the courts in cases where parents or guardians had shown themselves unfit to have the care of young persons com mitted to them. The law which he asked for was de manded, not for the individual rights of the children, but for the exigencies of society. Children were now brought up by their parents to be pick-pockets, and burglars, and cut-throats ; and it was a perversion of language and of facts to maintain that in taking away these children from such parents they were refusing them the enjoyment of any right that they possessed of anything which was ac corded them by the law of God, according to the princi ples of justice between man and man. Bringing up children in this way was a nuisance to society, and which he considered ought to be removed as they would remove any other nuisance. Such parents as be had referred to were not Christians, were not men and women ; they were absolutely beasts, and having renounced their rights they ought not to be allowed to resume them ex cept under the authority of some competent persons, who should be able to declare, on due examination, that the children who were restored to them would be brought up so as not to be an annoyance to society. Society had a right to take away children from their parents in order to bring them up properly, but that did not relieve the parents from their responsibility for the maintenance of their children. He knew an instance of a boy who was found lying on the steps of a house. He was in a fever, and a gentleman who was passing had him conveyed to the Fever hospital, where he was placed under the care of the physician to that institution, Dr. Southwood Smith, who, when the boy recovered, ascertained his story. He was sent out by his parents to beg, and when he was taken ill, he had been wandering about the streets with out any sustenance. The boy was subsequently placed in the Refuge, and when he was recovering, the mother came down and demanded to have him restored to her. It happened that he (the Earl of Shaftesbury) was pre sent, and be was afraid h e h a d no t th e l aw on his side, but he threatened,to prosecute her for deserting the boy, and in conseque nce s h e wen t away wi th ou t him. The boy cried bitt er ly i n hi s f ear t h at h e s h ou ld b e delivered up to his mother. He was now in a respectable sphere of life, earning very good wages in Nottingham, and he had sent f or hi s mot h er , who lived with him, and conducted he rse lf respec t a bl y . O n e objection h e had heard to thi s bill was th a t th e w orkhouse, in which the children would be placed, partook of the character of a prison, and another objection was that the number would be so large that they could not get sufficient work for them. As regarded the first, it was only as against the intentions of the parents to get possession of th e child ren that they would be restrained. With . regard to th e second, he thought it would be worth while to run some risk. He was convinced, from the most minute in quiries, that nothing of the sort would occur. Their lordships had heard that a large portion of the p aren t s were perfectly able to maintain their children, and de pend upon it the terrors of the lay w ou ld clear the streets of nine-tenths of the mendicants. He might state that he had the concurrence of several of the p o li ce mag istrates of London, who had written to him to state their views. Amongst them were Mr. Henry, Mr. Painter, Mr. Corry, Mr. Broderip, Mr. Long, and Mr. Bingham. The great demand for labour which now existed had taken away the pret ex t f or begging. The police were never more active and efficient, and he might say, in reference to this subject, " Now is the accepted time, now is the day of salvation." Ho considered this measure as entirely one of mercy and of prevention, and he was sure that if it passed it wou l d ant i c i pate, to a great degree, tho jailer and the hangman. The house then went into committee on the bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR said after the interest ing speech of the noble earl it might seern very prosy to come down to the details of the bill, but that was neces sary. In the first clause the words " any child" were used. Surely there ought to be some clearer definition as to the persons who were to be brought under the ope ration of the bill. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY observed that the Va grant Act contained no definition whatever. Lord CAMPBELL also thought there ought to be some definition. Who could tell what a child was ? Why, Childe Harold was a child. (Laughter.) He earnestly recommended his noble friend to reconsider the bill, and any assistance that he could render him should be at his service. He should like to see the object of the bill carried out ; but this was a bill that would not work. Lord BROUGHAM, while aggreeing with the obser vations of the noble earl, said he thought the best course would be to withdraw the bill for the purpose of remodel ling it. The Earl of HARROWBY thought the difficulties in the bill might be surmounted, and suggested that it should be referred to a select committee. Lord CAMPBELL said there was a law in Glasgow which enabled th e mag i s t ra t es t o summon before them, and to imprison for any period, not exceeding sixty days, the parents or other persons having control of children who sent them out to beg, and that law, he believed, had worked well. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY said he had brought forward the measure for the sole purpose of exciting dis cussion. He wanted to bring before the public an enor mous amount of evil, the length and breadth of which was not fully understood, in order that it might excite the attention of the active spirits of the country. He was now willing, either that the bill should be thrown out or referred to a select committee. The bill then passed through committee pro forma. PUBLIC WORKS LOAN BILL. This bill passed through committee. WHITTLEWOOD, OTHERWISE WHITTLE BURY, FOREST BILL. The amendments to this bill were considered, and agreed to. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned at 25 minutes past 7. HOUSE OF COMMONS--(YESTFMAY.) ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS. Mr. COLLIER moved for leave to bring in a bill to transfer the testamentary jurisdiction of the Ecclesiastical Courts to the Courts of Common Law and the County Courts. After sketching what he had done on a previous occasion, and referring to the promises of Government, he proceeded to say that though he had no hope of carrying his bill this session, he now felt it to be his duty to intro• duce it. He had no more to do with the subject of abases but would deal with remedies alone, and he remarked that he addressed himself only to the testamentary jurisdiction of the courts, for as to their other jurisdictions, the only mode of treatment which would be satisfactory to the country would be the abolishing of every ecclesiastical court in the kingdom. His proposal differed from that of the Solicitor-General, inasmuch as the latter designed to do away with all but the diocesan courts, whereas he would do away with all. He would abolish altogether the testamentary jurisdiction of the county courts. He pro posed that all wills about which there was no dispute should be proved in those courts. He would create county districts, corresponding to the circuits of th e county court judges. The undi s p u td will of any man should be proved in the circuit in which he dwelt at the time of his death, and thus he would get rid of the legal difficulty of bona notcr,bilia. He would establish a system of registration ; every will should be registered in the county courts, and transmitted to a registrar-general in London. Each county court judge should appoint a registrar out of the present ecclesiastical courts, whereby men of experience would be gained, and compensation be saved. The juris diction of the county courts should extend over real and personal property. Where a dispute arose, it should, where the cause in dispute was under 3001., be tried in the locality 'where it occurred, and he would give the county courts an equitable jurisdiction. He considered the technical difficul ties of testamentary questions to be over-stated, and he re ferred to the old historical character of tho county courts in proof of the efficiency they had possessed. He would give jurisdiction in higher cases, and also appeals, to the superior courts of common law, which should retain their power over real property, to which jurisdiction should be added that of the ecclesiastical courts as regarded personality. He would appoint an officer, to be called the clerk of pro bates, to each of the superior courts. The jurisdiction should be concentrated into one court. Compensation should be given to those who were deprived of offices, but not to practitioners ; and proctors should be admitted to practise as attorneys in all the superior courts. Dwelling upon the necessity of the same sweeping reform in the law which had been adopted in other institutions, he urged the subject on the consideration of the government. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Lord PALMERSTON supported the motion with groat pleasure, and complimented the ability which had been ' displayed by Mr. Collier in dealing with the subject. But he dwelt upon the complicated and difficult nature of the question, and, after s t a ti ng th a t t h e government were quite aware of necessity of practical remedies, said that they had not felt that they should be justified in legislating without great deliberation. He had said that government had intended to bring in a bill on the subject, but, regard ing the hopelessness of passing it this session, and the de sirability of having the report of the commission now sitting, they had thought it better to delay introducing their measure until the early part of next session. Mr. HADFIELD would have liked a more specific explanation from the government as to the promised re form. Sir B. HALL urged that the admitted difficulty of the question was the reason why government should not have left legislation to an independentmember, and he instanced various cases of ecclesiastical abuse in proof that remedy was imperatively demanded. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that all pa'ties were agreed in the necessity of reform, but urged that no one could blame the government for waiting for the report of the commission, after which it would be their immediate duty to prepare a measure on the subject. After some observations from Mr. DUNLOP and Mr. PELLATT, Leave was given to bring in the bill. THE HOURS OF LABOUR IN FACTORIES. Mr. COBBETT then rose to move for leave to bring in a bill to limit the hours of labour of women, young persons, and children, in the factories of the United Kingdom, and to provide for a more perfect inspection of the said factories. The hours of women and children were to be restricted to ten hours on five days of the week, and to seven and a-half hours on the Saturday. This would have the effect of re storing the Ten Hours Bill of 1847, and of including in that bill the children of eight years of age. He had been strongly urged by a large number of his own constituents and others in the factory districts, to bring in a bill to shorten the hours of labour in these factories. Ho then explained the state of the law as it now existed on this subject, and gave a retrospective glance at the progress of legislation in connection with factory labour. In 1833 an act was passed which made the factory day 15 hours, viz., from half-past five to half-past eight. In 1844 another act was passed, by which the labour of young persons, between and 18, and of women, was restricted to 12 hours in the day, but it permitted children from 8 to 13 to work 64. hours a day, so that there were employed two sets every day ; and there were, in point of fact, by this means, two factory days • 1847 an act was passed, limiting the period of labour to ten hours a day in the case of women and young persons ; but as children could work 6i hours under the act of 1844, and thus two sets could be employed every day, the millowners were thus able to keep their factories going 12 or 14 hours in the day. This led to the adoption of what was called the "shift" system, the millowners availing themselves of the letter of clause 26 of the act of 1833, which did not particularly define that the labour of a women or young person should be taken in ten " conse cutive" hours. By this means the act was successfully evaded. The larger body of millowners chose to adhere to the evident meaning of the act, and were thus subject to great disadvantage in competing with those who pursued an opposite course. Much dissatisfaction ensued, and the result was an appeal to the Barons of the Court of Exchequer, who decided that although there was no doubt as to the intention of the act, that those who extended the hours came within the literal meaning of the enactment. There was,consequently,a great desire on the part of those interested, to reform the law in this respect. The hon. gentleman then referred to a great meeting which had been held, April 14, 1849, on which occasion the hon. gentleman, the member for Ash ton-under-Lyne, had made a speech to the delegates then assembled, to confer as to what should be done after the foregoing legal decision. The delegates repudiated the as sertion as to the alleged evil consequences which were said to have arisen from the shortening of the hours of labour. (Hear.) He was satisfied that if hon. members examined the reports which had been made by the different inspec tors on the subject, they would be convinced of the utter hopelessness of securing the benefit of a Ten Hours' Act, unless by some such measure as that which he now pro posed. They would feel that some such alteration was absolutely necessary, in order to prevent the cluing and systematic violations of the Ten Hours Act which were now going on every day. (Hear.) The hon. member then re ferred to the evidence given before the Factory Commis sioners of 1836, by Mr. Cheetham, the member for Lanca shire. who laid stress on the necessity of imposing a re striction on the motive powor, in order t o secure the effici ency of the ten hours' system, and also to the bill intro duced in 1835 by Mr. Hindley and Mr. Brotherton, with the view Of restricting the hours of labour in factories. The third clause of that bill proposed to limit the hours of labour for all persons under 21, to ten hours a day; and the 4th clause provided, that the hours of the working of the machinery should be the same as those fixed for the labour of the children. There could be no doubt that a restriction on the motive power was necessary, to carry out the intention of the ten hours' system. (Hear.) This question was now making a great stir in the manufactur ing districts, and had met with the cordial support, not only of the workmen, the managers, and the overlookers of these factories, but also of many master manufacturers of great consequence and opulence. Numerous petitions had been presented in favour of the measure from these different classes, but not ore had been as yet presented against it. None of the unfavourable predictions which bad been made respee k ting the system had ever been real ised, but the work which had been turned out in the shorter period had equal! that which was produced under the longer periods which were allowed before the introduction of the Tea Hours' Act, and the wages earned by the work men had been quite as great, and in many instances higher (Hear, hear.) Some alteration was proposed by the bill to be made both in the amount of the fines and the mode of recovery. He believed that the fines which he re commended would not be considered unreasonable, when they considered the imperative necessity of preventing the recurrence of these offences, by inflicting a penalty which was commensurate to the crime. The hon. member, hav ing referred to some statistics showing the injurious effects of the prolonged hours of labour in factories on the health of the work-people, concluded by moving that leave should be given to bring in a bill of the nature he had described. Mr. FIELDEN had much pleasure in seconding the motion of his hon. and learned friend tho member for Old ham. He was himself extensively engaged as a manufac turer ; he had 1,300 or 1,400 men in his employment, and felt a very deep interest in the question before the house. He believed the suggestions which had been made that evening, with respect to the limitation of the hours of labour in our factories, by his hon. friend, were of a cha racter precisely similar to those which had boon 'made in the report of Mr. Horner, and in the propriety of carrying out these suggestions he (Mr. Fielden) entirely concurred. 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New 8 84 50 10 Union. of London.., — 40 all Uniou of Madrid — MISCELLANEOUS 100 35 Australian Agricult. 71 73 716 3 1 20 8 Australsn.Pcific.Mail • ... 10 7 Australn. Royal Mail 50 384 Brit. American Land 68 70 69 100 324 Canada 6B 70 5 5 Crystal Palace 24 3 p 84 74 4 2 Crystal Pal. of France 4 1 20 1 Eastorn Steam • ••• 1 1 Electric Teleg. of Ir — 15 14 Gen. Steam Navigat — 20 14 General Screw Steam 20 5 Irish Beetroot Sugar 1 all Nat. Pat. Steam Fuel 10 2 Netherlands Land.,,, id :Ap 34 20 76 Nrth.ofEuropeSteam 50 all Peninsular & Oriental 50 25 Do. LOO 60 Royal Mail Steam . . 25 25 South Austral•Lan'd 41 43 1 all Submar. Telegraph„ e• 5 2 Univeral Emigra.ion and Color lZ? 100 284 Van Dieme is Tstnd 1161 171. 164 , 1116 i = 17i LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.) LONDON, July 6.—Wind this day at Noon, S.W. ; light breeze, and cloudy at times. DEAL, July 5. —Wind, W. S. W. Arrived—lrene, Callao ; Anna, Havannah. Arrived from the River— Julia, Melbourno; Lemicella, San Francisco; Panopo, do. Sailed—Bell, Cape of Good Hope. July 6.—Arrived-- Caronol, Callao, from Antwerp. Arrivcd from the River —Georgia, Calcutta ; Ann Mitchell, Bombay ; San Jose, Accra. PORTSMOUTH, July s. —The Vile is leaky, having been aground. Arrived American Congress London, and sailed for New York. Off Port — Caronel, Callao ; Fa vourite, Baltimore, for Amsterdam. COWES, July s. —Wind, S. W. Arrived Ranger, Bahia. _ _ PLYMOUTH, July . s . —Wind, S. W. Marchioness of Douglas, Sierra Leone. Off Port—William Fullshere, Now Orleans. FALMOUTH, July s . — Arrived—Countess of Durham, Quebec. Off Port—Tudor, Calc u tt a . S a il e d—C a lif orn i a, Havannah ; Patrick Henry, New York ; Templar, Sydney, N.SW., with about 10,000 oz. of gold in freight. The Harald, Heldebrand, from Alexandria, has put in with dumage, and is discharging. LONDONDERRY, July 4.—The Mary Mac, Ardrossan to Boston, which went on shore on Rothl;n Island March 15, has been got off. YARMOUTH, July s.—The Adelphi, of Shields, has been got off Scroby Sand. BRISTOL, July s.—Arrived—ldas, Barbadoes; Coquettes Jamaica. MARKET NEWS-(THIS DAY.) CORN EXCHANGE. To-day's market was very scantily supplied with English wheat, the demand for which was firm, and in some in stances prices wore a shade higher than on Monday. Foreign wheats, the show of which was limited, were mostly held for more money, but the business doing in them was by no means extensive. Floating cargoes wero is por quarter higher. Barley moved off readily, and grinding samples sold at extreme rates. In the value of malt, no change took place. _ _ _ There was an improved demand for oats, the prices of which advanced 6d per quarter. Beans, peas, and flour were quite as dear as on Monday. ARRIVALS THIS WERE. English .. Irish .... Foreign .. Wheat. 1,230 Barley. Flour. 820 Malt. Oats. 2,310 2,490 800 1 3,020 I 1,600 brl 6, - 440 I 2,110 WHITECHAPEL. Tho general demand ruled firm at this market, and the quotations were supported :—Beef, 2s ICki. to 4s ; mutton, 3s Gd to 4s 8d ; lamb, 4s likl to 6s 4d ; veal, 3s 8d to 4s 10d ; pork, 310 d to 4s Od per 81bs by the carcase. BOROUGH HOP. We continue to have a steady demand for all kinds of hops, at very full prices. Duty, 143,0001. ACCIDENT TO MR. BROWN, THE SENIOR CITY MAR SHAL.—A serious accident happened to Mr. Brown, the senior Marshal, on Sunday last, in St. Paul's Church yard, which considering his advanced ag e , b e i ng up wards of 74, has c r eat e d some anxiety regarding his ul timate recovery. Mr. Brown had accompanied the Lord Mayor to the cathedral, on the occasion of th e c it y o f London Militia att en di n g divine service. At the close, Mr. Brown was in the act of mounting his horse, when the animal became frightened at the beating of the drums, and plunging away from the parties who had charge of it, threw him with much force on to the stone pavement. Mr. Alderman Cubitt, who witnessed the occurrence, had Mr. Brown placed in his carriage, and taken to the nearest surgeon's, when it was found he had received a compound fracture of the left arm, close to the shoulder joint. The bone was set, and he was conveyed to his residence at Brixton, where he re mains, and by the last account was progressing favour. ably. 1071 direct legislative enactment. He trusted therefore that th house would pause before it gave its assent to the introduc tion of the proposed measure. Lord PALMERSTON said he did not mean to offer the slightest opposition to the introduction of the measure which the hon. member for Oldham proposed to lay before the house ; but at the same time he should reserve to him self the privilege of taking that course which he might deem most advisable upon the second reading of the bill. He (Lord Palmerston) had intended to bring in a measure for the purpose of limiting the hours of the employment of children in our manufactures, and in that measure he had proposed to insert a provision to the effect that children should not be employed in our factories at an earlier hour than six in the morning or at a later hour than six in the evening. At the present moment children might be engaged athalf-past five in morning and kept at work until half-past six or even seven in the evening. Those children had to walk in many instances three or four miles from their homes to the places at which they were employed, and had to accomplish that journey alone in dark and inclement winter weather. It was not, therefore, a matter of sur prise that in the case of those children the mortality which was said to prevail should be considerable in its extent. It would be no doubt a matter of considerable delicacy to interfere by legislative enactment with the employment of those persons who, being of age were supposed to be able to determine for themselves, and who ought to be consi dered as free agents, and therefore as at liberty to work as long as they pl ease d . His own opinion was, that the mill owners were not pursuing their real interests in dealing with those whom they employed as if they were mere ma chines, and as if the longer they could work them the greater would be their own profits. He believed those employers would act much more wisely if they were to proceed upon the principle that their workmen were moral and intelligent agents, and were to consider that, unless those workmen obtained that moderate degree of leisure essential to their well-being, they would be unable t o ge t through the same amount o work which, under a better system, they would have no difficulty in executing. It might be said that to limit the number of hours for labour in the case of children would indirectly tend to limit those hours in the case of persons who were advanced in ago. Such might be the result of the proceeding ; but he could by no means look upon the probability of such a result taking place as a good reason for refusing to deal w ith t h e question in the man ner w hi c h he had indicated. Ho had no objection to offer to the introduction of the bill of the hon. gentleman ; but he had to state that it was his inten tion to introduce a measure for the limited purpose he had mentioned. (Hear, hear.) • Lord JOHN MANNERS thought that Lord Palmer ston'a plan would not go far enough, and he energetically condemned the Compromise Act, asserted the rights, of the operatives to their charter, th e T en Hours Bill, and de nounced the fraudulent conduct of the millowners, pursued for the sake of sordid pecuniary gain. He demanded that the penalties for breach of the act should be made far larger and more effectual. He warmly supported the bill. Sir G. GREY expressed gratification at the results of the acts he had assisted in passing, and he remarked upon the exaggerations in Lord J. Manners' speech, and charged him with stating exceptional instances as the rule in manu facturing districts. He defended the Compromise Act, which, he showed from Mr. Horner's report, had mainly , conduced to the present favourable condition of the opera tives, and he stated that nineteen-twentieths of the manu facturers faithfully conformed to that act. He regretted that Lord Palmerston had not given a more decided nega tive to the principle of the proposed measure. Mr. I. BUTT said that practices were going on in many mills directly in violation of the law. Young women were concealed in hiding-places to evade the inspectors; and as these practices were resorted to, the question necessarily raised was, whether the law was to be enforced or not ? The factory operatives were fully justified in coming for ward and saying that the question was not yet settled. They had an undoubted right to say, " You have not set tled the question ; if it were a compromise we had no part in it." Upon what was the legislation on this subject founded ? It was founded upon evidence brought before the house that 10 hours' labour was the utmost limit that children could endure. The question, therefore, had never been settled, and until a 10 hours' bill were passed, it never would be settled. Mr. W. J. FOX expressed his concurrence in the object contemplated by his hon. colleague in introducing this bill. The intense interest felt by his constituents for the last 30 or 40 years in this question was paramount to all interest felt by them in any political questions, knowing that the object of the present measure was to restore to them the half-hour which the bill of 1847 was intended to give to them, and which, by a subsequent act, had been un generously taken away from them. The arrangement of 1847 was satisfactory to the working people ; but that act broke down from a technic a l defect, and then advantage was taken to get rid of the arrangement itself, and a very unsatisfactory arrangement was substituted for it. Coin ciding with the object of his hon, colleague, he would re serve his opinion as to the m eans o f accomplishing that ob ject until the bill was before the house. The proposition made by the noble lord (Palmerston) for taking care of the children was very valuable so far as it went, but the noble lord should remember that protection was required not for children only, but for women and young persons. It was not after the age at which persons were allowed to go into the mills that mortality prevailed. It was anterior to that time that the evil occurred. The evil was the effect of the occupation upon the physical condition of the women, and it was with them that the mortality required to be abated. He admitted it was a delicate question to interfere with the machinery and working of the factories ; but there was another question—how else were they to enforce the law ? Had *they enforced it? If not, would they enforce it? Hitherto, notoriously that had not been done. If all the power of Government could not make the employers obey the law, then some measure must be had recourse to to compel them to obey it. Mr. PATTEN said, it would seem by the observations of the noble lord that the practice was a systematic evasion of the law on the part of the millowners. Lord J. MANNERS disclaimed having said anything of the kind. Mr. PATTEN was sure the noble lord did not intend to say it, but his words implied it. Now, representing a county in which there were large manufacturing interests, he should not do his duty if he did not say that in Lanca shire the law was generally acted up to, not only in the spirit, but in the letter. No doubt there were instances in which there were evasions. But he considered it would be a very great misfortune to raise a discussion again on this question, which could only have the effect of setting master against man. If the noble lord (Palmerston) was contem plating putting a restriction upon the moving power in the mills, he hoped an opportunity would bo given to the country to consider what was intended by the Government to be done. He could imagine nothing more mischievous than to disturb the motive power with which the manu facturing classes were connected. Lord PALMERSTON said, that the only motive power he contemplated to affect was the motive power of the chil dren. (Laughter.) Mr. LABOUCHERE said, the answer which the noble lord had given was quite satisfactory. This was not the proper time for going into the question ; an opportunity would be afforded on the second reading of the bill ; but there was one principle in the bill of such importance that be could not help calling attention to it. It had always been said that the object of the law was to protect those who could not protect themselves—children, women, and young persons ; but it was always disclaimed that it was ever intended to interfere with the right of a man to labour to such an extent as he might think fit for his own interest. But, if he understood the hon. gentleman, he proposed to put a stop to adult labour. It was the very greatest sub ject which that house, representing the greatest manufac turing country in the world, could entertain. He did not, however, complain of the hon. gentleman for asking to be allowed to bring in the bill. If legislation as it stood was not sufficient, then it was the duty of the house to make it effectual. But that was quite a distinct question from what was now before the house, and ho must regret that the noble lord the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment, when he gave his consent to the introduction of the bill, did not state his intention to resist a principle that would hold out any false hopes to the population. He considered that holding out such hopes would be fraught with danger. He respected tho manufacturing population as much as any man could do; but ho greatly mistook the intelligencelegislation o u o g f htth to t in class fe i rf with the i n g o h t t t a h w e a y re p o t s h s a e s t s n e d o they were to dispose of their labour for such a price and in such man ner as they might think best. Mr. BOOKER said ho was largely engaged in connection with manufacturing industry, and should give his most un qualified assent to any measure such as was now submitted to their consideration. Lord J. RUSSELL was induced to address the house in conse quence of his right hon. friend the me m b er f or Mor peth (Sir G. Grey) and his right hon. friend the member for Taunton (Mr. Labouchere) appearing to imagine that his noble friend (Lord Palmerston) had held out false hopes of legislation with respect to the restriction of the motive power in the mills. His noble friend, in assenting to the introduction of the bill, carefully reserved to himself the right to retain his opinion on the subject till the second reading. The only observation he made in which he at all alluded to the motive power was, that he was opposed to any restriction on adult labour. That was a principle in favour of which ho (Lord J. Russell) had always voted. He did not think it would be right, or that there was any necessity, to restrict adult labour. It would be a sacrifice of principle to make any proposition of the kind. What ever statement the hon. gentleman (Mr. Cobbett) might make as to the many evasions of the present law, that was perfectly consistent with the object of his bill, and he (Lord J. Russell) thought it was but fair that the house should give the hon. gentleman leave to bring in his bill, and when it came to a second reading they could then con fidently and fairly discuss the question. 'The object of the bill of his right hon. friend (Sir G. Grey), in 1850, was not merely to correct a verbal error in the act of 1847, but it was to put an end to a system of relays which had been in troduced, and which had worked most injuriously to those for whose benefit the act of 1847 was passed. Mr. NEWDEGATE said, if the laws of the country were systematically violated, not by a majority, but by a minority of the people, then, in justice to those who had sought legislative protection, and in justice to the fair trader, who had consented to abide by the laws, he was prepared, if there were no other effectual means, to assent to a restriction of the motive power in factories, at all events, in those which should bo proved to have violated and infringed the law. from the reports of the Factory Inspectors to prove the Mr. E. BALL supported the motion, and read some cases evasions of the present law at Manchester. Leave was then given to bring in the b i l l. DOCKYARD COMMITTEE'S REPORT. On Mr. KEATING being called on to proceed with his motion on the subject, Mr. DISRAELI said, he hoped the hon, gentleman would allow him to make a suggestion. The hon. gentle man had given notice of a motion of a very important and peculiar kind. It was,. in fact, a motion for a vote of con sureallegedAdministration, and especially on th e B oar d to have a c t e d i n a manner " calculated to reflect discredit up on th a t d epartment of osfurAedomnitrahlety late, who wer the Government, and to impair the efficiency of the ser vice." He could h ar dl y suppose that the lion gentleman would wish, at that late hour of the evening (a quarter past 11), to bring on this question, when it would be hardly possible to answer any ex parte statement which ho might 'flake. The late Government were perfectly ready and anxious to meet any ohaige that could be brought against any act of their Administration ; and, with respect to the .dmiralty, that department which was impugned, he should be perfectly content to appeal to the state of the fleet at Spithead as the best answer that could be given. (Cries of " Order !") He presumed he was perfectly in order in what he had said. Mr. H. KEATING would be happy to hear any sug gestion or proposal which the right hon. gentleman might desire to make to him, but it was scarcely in order to an ticipate to the subject-matter of the motion, and to do that which he apprehended he (Mr. Keating) was about to do —make a sort of ex parte statement. (Hear, hear.) • If the right hon. gentleman would confine himself strictly to asking any question, or to making any proposition, he should