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'~.\ Seven!public DocumentS were laid before thellobse,' pursuant to former' rders. • The -Bill for the Encouragement of the Cultivation of Potatoes was read a first time, ordered to be read a second time to-morrow; and to be printed. • f• Air. JEVESRYs presented a Petition front . •the Person confined for Debt in the Gaol of the Coinity of Warwiek, praying-relief. - -rclief—Mideretfto lie on the Table: : • • • • Lord CASTLEREAGH broUght up a Report of,tlit.Con mittee.on the Irish Sugar. Duties,: which being 'read, anti. agreed to, instruaipps were given to the Comniittee, that they do make•proviston in tho Bill, pursuant to such Re solution. The Poitie then. went into.a Comntittee .of tlte' .• whole House, to 'consider. of ,certain Irish Duties, went through certain Resolutions, and the House being resumed, the Report was entered to be received to-morrow. The Irish Malt and Distilleria' Bill pasSed through the same stages ' • - The I rish'llabeas Ceipts Susperision'Bill wa r reported • by the SoLtet Toe - GF:VlR4l.,,iigtee'd to, Bill ,ordered to be ingrossed, and- read a third time to-morrow, if the:l ingrossed. The Soticr•roa Grtteitki. appeared at the nar• with • the Report eitthe filartiallaw,..and the clitestion being put, that tllc. Rt-part be noW.brought : up, • Mr. GREl'':said, that on the question even of bringing up 'the : Report of this he felt it his duty 'to call tho-.atteotioo of the -House to the aubje&. lie should ;not enter much into derail on this occasion., having -so frequently delivered -his sentiments on this measure, . hut- he was corn pelled to make some,observations stir upon the matter, and. he was , .®pry to say - the objetions to it had not been attended to so much as, in his ap- . prehension,* .they,Meritcel. He had not only to objet to' the principle' of this Bill,- bat now still . further to its' provisions, so that be could . not allow it to pass.. through another stage - without, stating. his• ohjeaions. lie wished the House ;to und.erstanti what the:nature of the. Bill was, now'` . as it stood, 'which he did not know to ht. the case' of .present. Hewas sure there were in the Bill rnany - provisio&, the nature of - which were not opened, .'and some -of . which, he believed f were not in the Contemplation of the Noble Lord,..at the tine he Obtainedleave. to bring in the Bill. Sure he was,•they were not in the contemplation of the House. -They were.. not so much as stated in - the early stage, .of the' Bill. The great no.: cessitY stated to.exis't fur this' Bill was urged to• bc, that - Of the Civil ?awe*. in Ireland being- . found inadequtite tti the.suppression of that Con spiraCy audit ebelliOrts Spirit,' 'which, notwith standingall the efforts utade,for that pnrpose, had continued. for -foul' years, and which -still existed. : in Ireland, and which spirit •of Rebellion . had shewn itself ita such ads of`outrage and -violence, that those who *ere . qualified to.sit on Juries, .• would not perform their - -duty, and that they could not do SD ‘Vitin4ty to themselves orfami .and -that, as the.*bels could. not be brought ~ to jilsticit by the Ciy.il . and;ordinary tribunals .of • the Cou-ntry, it beeirne*. necessary to establish ano ther, betferadapted..for'thit purpose, and that • was Miiitary Tribunal.. :This..necessity he had never thOu4ht fully prOved;,blit.supposing.it were, .be ought to oppose this now, for the powers in the Bill were much greater than the objet which was at first stated ; for' as he UnderstOod the -Bill now; the Lord -Lieutenant of. Ireland attild not only establish • COurtS -. Martial , - where t here -*as any kebeliion, but in• places. where there was 'tier Rebellion, and not only so, but also hascruld,proeeed7even to the punishment, of deger, - WithOtit 'having so much as Called any Court Martial whatever, or proceed to any in. vestigation of any fora or under the authority oferyprodess ‘vliatever t but 'by. .tummaty order,. either of. his own, ot.l:sy : '9fficeYs -- deptned by him.' Tilasbe could; without any - et iernoni_ whatever, proceed to corporal punishment, or even death, at his wiftand pleasure . ; To do thiF . , it was lie . cessary only tolilledge that tile taarty had - . been guilty' of SOnic-aa - 'of ItebeitiOn, orTurtheranti of. kebellion. Redid not say, • nor" dig -lefrneari act . • • insinuatti that any t uSe'Would:be Made of this . • . tretrien - does . power, Sit:CA was such' power as ought • not 'to be grßitted 'avanyll.tie tai' any man living: • it was putting :the lives Of the People of Ifeland in the hang's one:individual.' Nor was ibis all, but the-Lord I.ieuteliant could demand a man out . of the power, of a Court of Justice,' where. he might be implca led, and try hini by 'thi s MilL. ta'ry Tribunal ; --for did 'it end here, :for the Lord lieutenant could takea=oliiii no after he.had- been tried. and dispoted- of 'liji-'a&nittt,il or corporal' ' puni sh t - and try him again . by this Military TribunaL All tiese •conhl" be ,chit as t h e Bill stood at, pre sent, or at least gybe underst o od . the . case to be. ' .This was.uot irithe contemplation olthe I-loose when leaveLwaSiiven- to bring in this.Biif; and such ought•neVer to be enaa - ed at anytime, under any .eircumetan 'ees. : This; Bill' • was t h erefore tint sv rtiu - ch tote called a Military I,aw, as.a measure which was a supe - recision of all Law. .The,Noble. Lord 'who brought in the Bill • lad assiMilated . this Bill.to some parts of the MO tiny Bill ; but. in,trUth . ii• had in some of its pro_ visions -no resemblance :even .of 'a Mutiny Bill, nor-indeed Of any Law ' either,Civiln M'liitar) For these reasons, he felt it' his duty to clppLiiC • •• the bringing up of this "report.. • . • The-Question vias / then the Report „was • •IprOughtup, .agyeedto,,:and the Bill was 2 irdered. to be engrossed and read a third time to-morrow; if ;' rhea engros sed. Lord -C ASTLE REAG moved the. Order. of tlieti4y for the third, rattiit ofihe pro.. 441ing for the Office, &lasterlof the R.tills in Intlanct • - • . . • The Order being read, • . Mr. lio,:mar;sl.6ppusea the Bill, upon the broad and general principle. tharno-office ought to be 'perf6rnieti bY.iletinty,.Arhileithe Principal was 'Capable. - of till Charging the . duties of it brim.. tell, such Tri,itipid paid such Deputy out of the emoluments .Of the °lliac himself. He would . wake wine•alloviaticel in caseof illness, but these allOu-ances he *mild hijve of a . .yer*y limited. kind: lie argued much' at brie upon: . this subj cet, and quoted tbeanthority Of ird:ilA.i.g, in support o f the principle he maintained: He applied ,his reasoning t o the•case now .before observing, that the Noble Lord who was Clain. cellor of Ireland,..iata.s.able •ta.perfor i m*the d.itks Qf hiS office without the assistance of any- Deputy whaie , ier; , and,.• he niaintuivttli th4t-the of* of . Master of the Rolls, proposed . by Ails - •j3iit" . • only-au.,.itiSisfaut: to clic,Lad' tiuleaunr„:.4. lielarid. If .any Deputy WaS,• necessary, the. Lord ought to provide one out of- the errioltiments OF his (Afro, Which:he understood to fie very considerable, instead of loading the Pub -lie with .this unnecessary burtheh. As to -this 'being a „thing pledged. by the Paiiiiment of 11 4. e. land to those who now held the Rolls, as a sirr cure.offtee, he leg:tided...tint plea as of no force, because, as- -a ' , Member pi - Parliament, he foun,t no justice in carrying into effect that which haul not justice for ,its foundation. • He thought the title of Job s , which an Honourable Friefid of . his had applied .to this business, was perfealy propriate,.—For alltlrse.reasons, he shoula Mow, tliat insTe . acrOrthe word " now," be rtioDtm." . • Th; .Que/tion . .being...put . on the Amendment for pcts;poniug;the third, reading to this . day six instead of its b e ing read now., . IIAtiRISON said, be could'not help oi.:- :setvingi-,that in . ,ttis 13i11 Mae was.a amunetii tion to'iwO persons for life, for the loss of an offtce -which. it they held _during flees ure. that this Bin' went the lencrili Of giving a reward fOr life,' for the loss of that - which was held dttriit .pleasure.—That was - giving more than:was taken away. ,He saw no reason whatever, for making this remuneration. If . the 4;4c4 was a .sinecure,. : :and held during pleasure, there could Ue no.pre / • text of rewarding cervices; aid Cie emolument to be gained, ought to be on • the .carne_ tenure 'under under, as that which the Bill took away ,Was that is, it. oai,hi to,be dUring plza. sure: - : The Bill, as it is ,rtatv proposd to be read, was a measure which appeared - to hiM to be .. a profi.,ite.waste of the pah4io.rnoacy. The Sul ATTOIZAE)"-:E.111E1? - 4L •••* k it ; (? i id • , 12 save .a considerable' deal Of time in dikcSsing Bills in that . HOtise, if lionourable-Meitibeii, „fore they objefted to .them, world talc.e the, trouble -of reading them... It wquld 4ri)ear, that there was.not one word about remtmeration . to any of the Commissioners of the Rolls - in the Big, from tha beginning of-the Bill to the end of it so that that rFsp4l,,. there. Was no foundation for the objeAion of the,l-lon.. Gcntiicinan who ,spolse last. As to the subjeft of finding al3t-'. putt': to perform the . dttties the. office, as it stood in the hands of the two Noblemen who. now . held there,ivits no fou•ndation for any 9b.„ .servation but one, which "was, that no duty attached 't9 .the,.office, - for-it was a.: sii)e. cure. . Mr. GREY said, that nobody 'valued more highlY than he .did,. the pofessional information which Learned Gentlemen sometimes'gave to the Mouse, nor vas anyone more caPable, of confer ring that favour on the. Howe ,than the Learned Gentleman who. spole last ) but Jim must protest 'against that - system of Special 'Pleading whi:ll called:3o- . the. 'House to adhere,., at all events , to the dry state of a =till its letter,. for. it %r as the priviTege,. 'na y , it .Vas the duty of a -IVienlber of Parliament, .t o leek not oily on the .W.ltas in a Bill, hut also. into all the circumstances which gave it 'birth,: as , well as 'to the alteration it would be the cause of. in -circumstances that were not , re in. that light, both' his Honourable Friends would and; be found ro have spdken aptly upon . the present west ion ; for this Bill would prodire e th e effea - lif procirring ! to- the two Noblemen Who now held the oce of the Rolls in Irefaitd, salaries ; and these salaries would be for.doing nothing, at least in the office for the lass,. of sirliTch they .were to be remu nerated. In the•charaaer of Comraissionets of the RONA, "these-Awe Noble persons,. who were, to be so laVishly. provided, for, haa no claim ever on the Public.; - and, if dyer there was a tithe when the public money-ought to. be spired, the present N . vzs of. chat .description.. The House was called on, with more , thaii,usua . I . .einpiasis, to spare the publicp m urse as uch as ,possible. Ha v_ ing entered at considerable length into the situa .,,tion,of the office of . the Rolls, •and the' duties of the . Lord Chancellor of Ireland . ; and observed, that the-. Noble Lord typo now filled that, station, w'as 'alreidy in ,the etijoyatent-of •10001. a-y ea' , as. a ccimpensation ter him for the loss of the office .of Speaker of the'Holise of ,Lords in . lreland-4 , sum which hid' hitherto been thought' equal to •, the claims of a Chancellor of Great Britain, 'after long and laborious service to. the. 'Public,. anti treated. this, Bill, as he.. and his - friends, he said, had already often done, as a Join;, he concluded by supporting' the Amendment for postponing the third. reading of . this .Bill until this day six months. - •. Lard C.4STLEREAF;II sad,. tha t having. trots.. bled the House so frequently on this subject, did nor propose to enter totichat length into ; this Question at ptesent. In the first place, it had been argued as if this. Bill had. for its .objeE that of croaking, the office :of .the Lord chancellor a Sinecure the Bill had, no such tenderacy. - That , the 041eo of: the Rolls Should, be made • an. 4ssist airt ax e 4-Lsessnr to. the,-.l.ora,ChancellOr,. was a tliiri '`CvLit.:ll,.. he .presti* d,., no. -Hon.- Member ItKs.tion the pc . apriefy of, especially as now li6aaenclance was consmd and in. this Court'- • • • try for 4o long, a straort eVery,Near, .although it was i-ric.WA ftad oar. an •ikif;estior whose. dutt , and ,proniptness 1p the.exe cutton of-Iris 411ce,. would.a.pprbach to a likeness. of tluiSe of the. Noble .LO3l _who tilled" the. high (Aline tord.ChrocillOr Of Ireland. His.Lbrd.- . ship, the2l...poceede . .10-slew that.this:Bill, which had•so frequently been called a Jai I , .va-s only following up the . gtiod faith of .the Irish Parlil ment,whostobd,•.plettgrit to this measure, and also that, it ,was r•io wire than \Vas ieebAmized.iii its principle lw mall)* Aas.of the.le3islutdre in-:lre ' land reftatedly, and recogrlizesi,in stirs Cati;ttry. AI. A.. TAYLOR ,considered this, Bill as he had done- before,' a.lvile Job, and an instance of great±ana tinprineipted curroption in the dis posal of Patronage, for which,there was po ex . ample in.tins Country. • Mr: ROS . R. said, that so far was this-Bill from proceedings of Pplia .:teiri une":itamvled in the proceedings in, this (..ountry," that: it was sanaioned by rife Very -Roport of the Committee .of Finkoce, • •which:Wti taken suchlmins very ; subjea 1 :of 01-14 s .nn(L.their Emolument c , b .that Coin . it; A%ts,-t.feei:tiedly - • reeommended,that when clJtain iltenre..o(Eces were' abolished, the Per ; • so is holdiog.them.at. the'lluit'sliould , lttve a. rc. MUMratitlil natlng ; inct that was precisely `tht case here. j OHNSTO Vlc tliougltt that L ae rem:l_ !ieration was, contrine,l,-.liy the . 2.eport,. of tha t Com,nit tee, to those who hart been in actual ser vice, inn - had. bot*held Sirwettres. • - ,• Mr. Ri.) (hal • cy'ettyiajle , class of Offiktes- to which lic•hall alluded,- anti 'to which the.Corumittec had recomnknacd remune ration when xhe Otlk wcre abolished, was' a Sinecure. , . • ' Mr. JIONES tqprobatcd this. Bill as a pr.n4i, gate waste of the Public Wealth, at a time when we- had Committees employ rd to - consider Show we. were to prevent a Famine. Mr. DAWBO,N Fl l . yr -regard this. as a • • • In?ature that.cuglir to be.kapttr?ve.4l• of : he. consi ti,'Led_ this as'one of the. measures that were .cou pled gr.<ns'illg out of, - zo speak.. more accurately, he co,nsidered.ttris: as. one -of -eheineasftres.which had brought Omit ,ttie so. ths.:, insteact of saying her , C measure s gteW. : pat of 'the. Palo; ttic trklit be said to grow Put of them, He Taidan handsome complinatmt to tim Lord . Chance - 119r of Ireland ; but ht mold nor. 21 , prove:of.. a-measure ,that-.thus Ainneeossarily i , as.he concti red,. Iciaded his .-Consti 'twills with t.:4,encer,. Mr. CEO. i'ONSO-A:BY, spoke at consi&rahle length apin3t , the aseasore„ and took occasion,to.„ arraign the condo& of the late Evectitive GO vernment of Teekhd, ,actl conF.idered this as only a slight instance of its cerruption. a hestqwed praise on the Lord• Chancellor bf Irelar.d, and de clared, he ditl not believe he . ever delayed,untre: 'c2ssarily, 'for one lour, the hearing of a cause, or even of a Motion, whiie he sat r in . the, Court ofChaneery , ; httt he Sail he was persuaded that that Noble andll.earned Lord . n6 - er ,declared that he wanted the assistance of-any Ilputy to per ; form the.duties of his high Office. • • - CASTL E R AG7I assured th - e House that - the ti,l row before it hat.i the en ire. approha . tiott of-Mid CLARE... • . Mr. CEO. PONSONBY, in explanation, ob. served, thrit Le had said nothing of the Bill hat , - ing, or not having, the. approbation of Lor4L l CLARE ; What he said was, that lic was confident that Lord CLARE did not want a Deputy, such at this Bill itq.'nt to provide fol. hitn. • Mr. BANKS said, he had hear 4 some vlei advanced, in this beb-Ate, which had liven him no - small degree-of therm; and if the:-UniOn with Ireland i - to be the of-s - uth printiples, and of sit - dr - measures - as:the present-being intro duced into the Heise„ opinion, .covat• Britain Woulcihave fur ever tans': to - rue and la ment that that 'Union had cirerialcen plate. Ifs did not pretend to 'know What blid , hafi the prA t ice in the Irish Parliament, hut he 'sad no hesita. Lion in asserting, that this Bill is repugnant the rineiples which have CY 0-1 . been - maintained, and to the uniform proceedh.gi held try the tit; House of Ceinmons. would not say, 'that sOine, principles, nearly apprOaChing to those , of this Bill, have not crept times into its pro ceedings: eiretimstanecs and fats would, not hear . hiin out in suds an assertion huthe,.Votild, assert; that -- dais sill is inconsistent .w isth the s principlei of General ParlianiditAry Proceedings. Thi‘.first meisttie of •R.2form, that he retolleed 'in his Parliamentary life, was the Ad known by *the name .61 Mr... RtiftltE'S Bill, the: Glide& bf which- was to abolish certain Sinecure Offices then in existence, but it dill nor go so far as might have been wished. .Tbetoflices. abolished are mentioned.in the first Clause of the Bill. • (Mr. BANKS read the list of them.) Among them were the 0111,:e of Third . Secretary of State, which was likely to occupy the attention of, the House in a subsequent part of theevening. - 'll. 4 lr,:y . were Offices held at the pleasure. of the ExeCutiv.e-Go— vernment, but it never entered, into any man's head that a compensation should be Millie to thote who had held these 011 ices, and were. dePri'Ved of them - by the sill. Even in this Bill of llefdtzt, howevr,i something of the principle of the •Mea. sure now before the House, continued to lurk; and from the circumstances of the times, the srate of Parties, and other ~ things, with Which every., Gentleman !Oat l e acqtiainted„ thelXeform Was not carried so far, nor ma d e : so cor n , leiZ-, as was" originally intended by Its PlannerS 'and , porters. They, had the prospeft _ of *eedilY coining into Office,' and this pros Pea .prevented, them front pu4hing it to the extent which they otherwise : have .done. The principle. of 7 .Comr.risation in that Act, is contained in a gab; sequent clause . Of it. It extends otsly to'inferiot Offices, mostly in 'the Customs, which, though ieillirheld at : the pleastire o - of the CioWn, were yet, from lung and invarlable . enSiom, as Inticli for life Lis any Other Office whatsoever, for "trot one instance can be tirti4uL:ed of 4.11 T . y+: iivie~exxl ha r'rig 6cen deprived Of theirs by the Now it wOul.d'havebeena case of peculiar hattl.: ship, if the hOlderi.of, these Offices, to sOiich they had risen hradnally, ot viihich,pe'rhaps, they half purch3sed, cei3Sict4ing . tteal to - be for life, hid been. deptive - ct of "themwithOut coMperisa. Lion.. The Nphle.Lord'will tint, 'gOrely; pretend to coinpirc :hefr . situAtion -wtth that 'of the Coth. Missioners'of the Rolls. in Iretnncl, OT that a Corn. granted in such ci retttnstarres, forms-any. a Pe analogousb 4 g ti°6 ou ' ; r ece dent" 4o' the measure proposed by this Bill. Besides,. there it , something in the mature of the Compensation -granted,by that Afl,..very different from.the present measure. The burden of . maleing Compensitiod, at least to t -some of the persons to whom Contvensations were granted by that MI - , was- tWvno n some measure, upon ilie.Execritive Gc*ornent, for it enads, that they' shall be paid such and such sums, till they . Can be- prbvided for -in places in the gift of the Qr(kwn, .for which they; may •be fit. The spirit of this. Clause he approved of, - and wished that . it had been adhered Co in the trinsaftion under • 'consideraticn. /t ,frerners of this' Bill appeared to Hinz 'remarkably anxious to 'keep the House to what'appeared on the face or it, and assert, that sofar as the Biltgoes, the measute will con_ . tribute to the better arid more expeditiona ad . ministration of justice in 'lreland. He would ac.. knowledge, that . were uncotiple* - With any other trattsaltiOit,,.thOugh goes to mike the litlCe ,ot Lord Chancellor a he Would not obi - ea to it. tut o.eStipporters 6F thie.'l3ili say, that, the transadi in to evince he alliicrid i as Icing ecirineded'iivitja this Bill, is an At of the IriSh Farliainent, a)id 'that this HOtise., Tics nothing, to to with it Vie, hoivever, con; !ceived that he sat as - 11.1cpresVntkit-e for-Ireland; as 'well• as Great Britain, flr the whole Ignited' iKingdom, and he 'ontild"tioti,• :taint in this :city; when tol/A of die dirStresses of the' People of 'lreland, et:intent 'to friy:fiteastit whith Woula• arra* upOn them steep ale:Mien as this Sill *etild 'do,. for witliftt this-Bill,"the Mt - -of' the. Frikh i'srrliirfient mere istAlity:lfie cc urd not consent that Stich 'a ..6th-lhen should be ini. posed - On. the l'cisple "off ne"iiiid; any more. Ithan .on the People -of Ent%tid-,; . rir on the Parish in which het esideS,' He 'cat' iceived, that he - Was eoually bouad boattend to The interests 'of He 'Coed 'Se rio re sort ‘i'hir ASSistant should be appointed to thetliarkeliof-r;F•tre-land.. 'can tie no aubr 'OE rife Noble lia's at to `do the dtities of - his °ilia. Rh talents are un:. 'griestionnale, a:Etlfity great eiiet. Why then ilrtajr% notthe atopointinent bitlqs Assistant be lfe - Sh;dl'be . foortii. necessary ? As to h' ' t et o o s woo io • the Oce of Ceinfiriviiilris of the Aolls,' 'cannot the'Crown grant theiiiS'Orhe baler CaMpeniation? 'ro One of therri, 1i net - such'' ? - I.Yoeshenotliold an °flee under' the CiOwn; at Foreign Cirr!rt he eon_ ti'nues in which foi a e:1 - ..aitt . tithe, aconiiirlg to the proViSioneof the v = ery 'AA iv 'whitth he had so often referred; he rimy have a • Comi,ensa tion, or Pension, grinted him by the Crown.— * To the other Noble Lord, it is Surely in the .pri‘ver of the Executive Gkiverfinient 'to grant some .place which ,he can holdhy the Same -tenure, vit. at the Pleasure of the CrOwn; by which he holds.his presentiCACe. 'He libped'he hail.Sheivn that this House was not botpid ,by . airy principles 'of good faith with Ireland; tOpass this Bill; but if it must be pasied, he Wished that the Parlia. inert of Treland had managed the whole tranSac— .ticin themselves, and not left this legacy of infatny, had not entailed'tiprin 'it this disa:tare, that the measure altngether bcenburied in the 'Saint:rive with it. He 'could not but COnsider the legacy to be what is'ealled by the Lawyers, / 1 / 4 , retiitat thim*osa, and he wished that the Irotise had never receive:lit, 71ERNEY'etintended, that no isrEeeitent • .• for this measure', not ahy - thing analogous' to tr, could be found in the Pailiathental History of Ehgland. . NICHOLLS said, he had c4neti- flit' the liniOn with ireland ; - bat if it shOutd . be the . 111 - z..-ans of introduting many such meaStires as - this, he ihoirld.be'athamertof the vote 'which he had, giren. It was openly avowed; that in order to. carry the Onion in Ireland jobs would be times. • sary ; but thinking as he Ilad done, that the Union Wasindispensable for the salVation of the Erhpite, he had overlooked the s e. He had how.. ever thought' that theW jbbi were 'all tO be d'ir'e by thelrish'ParliaVht,-'and that Bone of them weii: to be entailed oil' the United. Parliarnent.i-:- 'There certainly. had - been jobs enough in the Irish Tralilarttent, thoogh' do Mote were now 'to be tranSaded.. Every mari reads with asto nishment Itisit horror, that the Roman tmpire was openly put to 'sate by the Pretotinn Bands; but there had -'.reek one jdli equally infamous and no. torious, trtmsa6led Million and a Half was voted to be paid to titbit Who had the hardiness to call thltnseliki PkOrtietnrs of Boroughs. Was not' this ecltlally oorftipt with the sale of the Rom'Afi'Etti . pir ? This however, was done by the Irish Pa:fiat-tien t. I t had. sins enough upon • • its had, a few inure . ..o leis could male little diffetOnet, and they were to die in a short time. These -thint!i . had not; therefore, influenced his Vote 'on the tiubjeel of the'Union. But he depre. cared the , idea of the United Parliament making itself a Party in- rill these ads of infinny, by adoptin 4 4;the pribeires on which they were pm-- • formed, - in` passing 416 di4eaceful tneasure.• Mr. iILEAANDER eZprested his sus - prize at the epithets di abuse Which Gentlemen allowed themselves to. use respeaing the Irish Parliament, andrespeeting this mertSiire;' epithets, - which as as:. they were most unjust, e&lld have nil other ten dency than to dtVive. Gnivernment and Parlia.; them of the confidence of the Ptople.• As, to:the trans-LI:1ton under consideration, when, it was dis :cussed in the Irish niriinient, iii .Ibe presence of so of the ablest Irihii LiWyera, though it was ob . - icAcci to on other grolinds, it 'was oil all hands that the appointifient af.an efLien; Master . of tie 1-toffs was expedient 'and necessary, and. this was all that 's i s preVosed; to be dohe by thii . Bill.; it 'doe, not propose tolgrarit to the Noble Who hold the Office OttnfiittisSioners of the . kalla one,iarthing more than tlwk have at present. The eitardPre of Ireland, in hfs'Opinion, ought to - Fut Great Britain on its guard atfainst cncoOfaie. nig incendiaries ofany kind Or description, wh i ch he thought those were who Wiilvd to w.•,1.:e1i the confidence of *the People in *their Le 'stators and Rulers. He had lived to see the i.i'lluenee of this spirit of Jacobinititn 'OF rafing ipth,destruc tin i oallorder and )aodgoernalcrit-41e wiilied tkee. it conipletely, suppiess'ed, conellided . . . , with 'enpresiin his approbation of the Bill. • .Or.,'LlIT4 -7. lZENE.sa,id, he Coitict 'only recOl; ..• • led one piceedentfor . this measure,' and that was the Legacy 'of Nero to one .of his' friends, to vOhoai'he left his' debts to pay. The Nate Lard had culled this t Legacy' frotti the Parliarnetit Of'trtiand ; in his opinion, It was a Legady the sate stamp ith that of Nero. He could nOt consent to join in the 'diSgrate of this measure, nor that the United 'Parliametir of the two KingdOini shouts make itself t participator in theposthtiriou4 sins of the Irish rarliament. • Mt. 'btx.wis22‘7, thotigh he in general sup- POrted the mea!nres. - of• Government, could not ' give h'3 vote "fdr this' ' AN, iloeirf'Rrii spoke lgainsx the thetisurc, as (.I , e. establiOtin and sanetioninteorrtiption.. r. PlERalialgt said a few words on the same Side:' • • .itTr..ROP SO N saiM; - thrilibitt the statement of the Itith Chaficelior of the Exchequer, it ap.