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tion, and the result was as he had stated, time was given, and security upon the tolls taken. Mr. DAWSON—The Noble Lord had acted very justly in pursuing the course he had done on this occasion. The money was borrowed by the Corporation for the purpose of building this bridge, and certainly it was chargeable for the repayment of it. Mr. HUME hoped that the Corporation would not only have to pay the principal but interest also. Lord ALTHORP said they would not be put in any better situation because they had not been called upon by the former Government for repayment. Mr. GRATTAN hoped that Government would also take into con4deration, and try to recover for the inhabi tants of Dublin a sum of 76,0001. owing to them by their Corporation. 11r. STANLEY said, that case hail recently been, and was still under legal consideration. Mr. SHAW would merely say. that the Corporation of Dublin did not owe either to the inhabitants of Dublin or the Crown one farthing. Mr. O'CONNELL said, there had been a deal of shuf fling by the Learned Recorder on this point, but it was a fact that a decree had passed against the Corporation for 14,000/. which was not yet paid. Lord ALTHORP presented a petition from Glasgow, signed by 57,000 persons, praying the House not to grant supplies till ti.e Reform Rills were passed into law. Mr. DUNDAS would take that opportunity of explain ing himself upon what had fallen from him on the presen tation of a similar petition from Edinburgh. He had then crated, upon information which he believed, that the meet ing from which it emanated had been attended by people bearing flags and emblems of a very shameful character,— such as a representation of his Majesty without a head, &e. He (Mr. Dundas ) had on that occasion naade some remarks upon the conduct of a Gallant Officer in .attending a meeting of such a kind. He was now informed that no such obnoxious banners were exhibited, at least in the presence of that Gallant Officer. Ile was, therefore anxious to retract anything which might be cal culated to stigmatize that Gentleman. He was strongly of opinion persons holding commissions in his Majesty's ser v e•e should not attend meetings of the kind. He deeply re gretted that any thing he had said had been construed intn an attack on the private character of the Gallant Officer. After a desultory discussion between Mr. Gillon, Mr. Dundas, Mr. Gordon, Sir John Byng, the Lord Advocate, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Hume, and other Hon. Members, the petition was ordered to be printed. Sir R. VYVYAN remarked upon the singular circum stance of a Chancellor of the Exchequer presenting a peti tion against the granting of any supplies.—(Laughter.) Lord MILTON observed, that that circumstance showed the confidence of the people in their Chancellor of the Exchequer. The petition was then ordered to lie upon the table. Upon Lord ALTHORP moving that it be printed, Captain GORDON begged leave to observe, that after the conduct which the country had witnessed in the Hon. Member for Middlesex at public meetings, he (Captain Gordon) could not hold him to be any judge of what was .proper or constitutional.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME cared not one pin for what the Hon. Member for Dundalk might think.—(A laugh.) He (Mr. Hume) would be contented at being judged by his country, and if the Hon. Member for Dundalk would be satisfi.il with the same tribunal he (Mr. Hume) would readily and fiirly place his opinions in opposition to his. Mr. GILLON would assert that thete had not been one recent public meeting in Scot land at which he would not have been proud to have been present. The petition was then ordered to be printed. Mr. HUME had fifty petitions of the same nature, and hoped he might be allowed to bring them up.—(Cries of •' No, n-," from all parts of the House.) He did not intend to trouble the House with having the petitions read ; and all he wished was merely to read the titles of them.—(Cries of " No, no, no.") If the Chancellor of the Exchequer intended to move for any supply, he (Mr. Hurne) should certainly think it his duty to press his petitions, as they all begged the House to suspend the granting of any money until the Reform Bill had bee , me the law of the country. Did the Noble Lord mean to move for any supply ? Lord ALTHORP undoubtedly intended to move for a supply in the Committee of 'Ways and Mein.. The Hon. Metn'-er fur Middlesex knew that upon that evening the Orders of the Day took precedence of other business, and he tiusted that lie would desist from pressing his petitions. Captain GORDON said if the Hon. Member for Mid dlesex persisted in pressing his petitions, he (Captain Gor don,) should persist in pressing several which he had to pi went. Mr. PORTMAN had a pe►ition to present—(Cries of " No, no.")—lt related to the liberty of the subject, and it was necessary that it should be laid before the House in order that justice might he done to an individual. A person had been imprisoned for six months in the island of Guernsey, and every legal means had been taken in vain in order to procure his release. At length a writ of habeas corpus had been resorted to, and even that had proved in effectual. He wished to lay the petition before the House in order that it might lead to the release of a person de tained in confinement. Lord STORMONT opposed the petition being presented. Mr. G. LAMB then took the petitio❑ from the Hon. Member for Dorset.hire, and the subject dropped. THE CORN LAWS. Upon Mr. STANLUY'S moving the Order of the Dry fur the Tithes (Ireland) Committee Breach of Privilege, Mr. HUME said that before the House proceeded to the Order of the Day moved by the Right Hon. Irish Secretary, he felt extremely anxious to put a question to the Noble Lord (Milton) upon the question of the Corn Laws. He was induced to ask the Noble Lord whether, in the present state of the country, he would persist iu his intention of bringing forward his motion which stood for Wednesday next ? He would suggest to the Noble Lord whether, under all the circumstances of the case, it would not in every respect be better that he should po.tpone his motion, in order to let the Reform Bill first pass through that Hot+e? Lord MILTON spoke in a very low tone of voice from under the gallery. We understood the Noble Lord to say that he could not, on any account, suffer his motion to be deferred. Mr. JOHN WOOD was well known to be an advocate for the repeal of the Corn Laws. but he felt convinced that nothing but injury could accrue to that desirable measure if the Noble Lord persisted in his intention of bringing that subject forward this Session. The House was over loaded with business, and after so arduous and heavy a Session, how, he would ask, could it he expected thst there could be any close attention of Members after they had got through the Reform Bills ? Mr. STRUTT approved of postponing the motion. Mr. J. LINDSAY was extremely anxious to know what were the intentions of the Noble Lord with respect to the Cut n Laws. He most sincerely hoped that the Noble Lord would not accede to the motion of the Hon. M‘imher for Middlesex. The ease had been extretne'y well got up. Mr. LITTLETON thought it advisable, under the ex isting circumstances of the business of the House, thst the Noble Lord should not press his motion. Mr. ti. DOUGLAS wished the subject to be brought forward, for, as the Noble Lord had entered the notice of his motion on the papers of the House, it became an object of great importance to know what were the sentiments of the Nettle Lord Upon the subject. Mr. SLANEY was of opinion that it would be extremely difficult, if not impracticable, to come to a due decision upon so important a subject at the present moment. Mr. ROBINSON felt extremely anxious to know whe ther the opinion of his Majesty's Ministers upon free trade were to extend to the trade in cot n.—( Hear. ) Sir IL PRICE wished the motion to be deferred, for he thought that the question ought to be settled delibe rately and fairly, and he as yet had not been able to make up his mind upon it. From the tone of those Hon. Mem bers who had wished the motion not to be deferred, it was not difficult to perceive the animus with which they would come to the discussion on the subject. It was nor whilst the House was in such a temper that a question of so difficult a nature, and so important in its consequences, ought to he brought forward. Sir A. HOPE denied the ex'stence of any animus upon the subject, and thought that the Noble Lord ought to per• severe his intentions of bringing it forward. Mr. W. J. DENISON would request his Noble Friend to lint off his motion to an early but more convenient op portunity. In the present excited time he thought it almost impossible to come to a fair discussion of the subject. Sir G. WARRENDER was for having the motiou postponed. The question ought not to be met as a party question. Colonel SIBTHORPE wished to observe, that all arise who had supported the Reform 11111 would find them selves turned nut for any acquiescence in the alteration of the corn laws. The tanners of England ought to have an opportunity of seeing which of the Members would sup port their interests. Mr. CAMPBELL totally differed from the Honourable Member who hail just sat down. Mr. A. BARING thought that it was impossible that any thing could be more unjust or more injurious to the whole country than the course pursued by the Noble Lord, if, at least. he were to take tlie advice offend to him, and let the present Parliament hrtak up without coining to some deciswo upon the u b was itopossible for any of kris -*, N Majesty's Ministers not to be aware of the mischief of put ting this question upon the books of the House, and then not to bring it forward ; for who. would take a farm or purchase land ? What transaction could there he between landlord and tenant whilst such a question was hanging over them ? He would venture to predict, that if the Noble Lord world bring forward his motion, according to the expecta tions he had excited, it would not be discussed in any spirit of party feelings. In his judgment it would be of all questions that could possibly be brought forward in the present Parliament that which would be debated with the least of party spirit ; aye, with as little of it as any Turnpike Bill or Road Act. If the reason of deferring the motion was that the House was on the eve of a disso lution, and that it was inconvenient for Hon. Members to let their constituents know what their sentiments or in tentions were, he would say that it was a most unfair, dis honest, and hypocritical way of dealing with the people of England. The people ought to know what were the opi nions of Ministers upon the question, and it was unfair to withhold from them their intentions. As the c Ise at that moment stood the whole country was absolutely at the mercy of the Noble Lord as to whether their land was worth anything or not, whether persons ought to call in their mortgages, or how they ought to settle their business. The House had a right to expect that the Noble Lord would be more explicit upon his intentions. Mr. COKE addressed the Hone from tinder the distant angular gallery. The Hon. Member was inaudible to the reporters. We understood him to say that he approved of a postponement of the motion of the Noble Lord. Mr. BARING explaint cl. _ _ Mr. W. WHITMORE said that it was the wish of his constituents that the question should not be ten discussed. In his opinion it was by far better that the question should be allowed to remain as it then stood, until there was a cer tainty of bringing it to a conclusion when it was discussed. Mr. HODGES hoped that the Noble Lord would defer his motion ; but, whenever the question was brought for ward, he, for one, would feel no hesitation in expressing his opinions. Lord GEORGE LENNOX thought it evident that many Hon. Members who had incurred disgrace and danger by opposing the Reform Bills were now desirous to curry favour with their constituents by voting against the trade in corn. Lord MILTON—I hope that I shall not entirely fail in satisfying both classes of Gentlemen on this subject.— (A laugh.) In the first place, I beg to say that I have never been in the habit of concealing my sentiments on political subjects, with the view of pleasing any party; and therefore I do not think that I ought to be accused of that now. But nevertheless, I conceive that it is not the duty—perhaps hardly the ri4ht, of any individual to agi tate a question in this House, when a great majority of those whose sentiments are congenial with his own, are not desirous that it should at that moment be agitated. In the first place, I shall endeavour to satisfy the Honour able Member for Fifeshire, by fully stating to him the opinion that I entertain us the subject, and the ultimate object which I have in view, though I am afraid that I cannot be allowed to state all these arguments which with me are conclusive in support of that opinion, which I can assure my Hon. Friend who spoke last, I am not afraid to proclaim even to my own constituents. It must be in the recollection of the House that the Parliament and the country have been agitated by this question for not less than seventeen years. During that period, time after time, Corn Bills have been propounded to this House, and each Ministry have in turn found it to be ultimately necessary for them to change their opinions, and to agree in some new system. Without at all intelding to detract from the abili,ies of my Right Honouratle Friend, the President of the Board of Control, I must be allowed to express a doubt whether he has in this respect been more successful than his predecessors ; fur I do not believe that the pre s• nt Corn Laws are able to stand the test of a serious and sober examination. For my own part, I believe that there is a radical defect in those laws; but without enter ing into au examination of this length, I am free to state to the lion. Member for Fifeshire, that my opinion is that the trade in Corn ought to be free. At the same time, I am not of opinion that it would be inexpedient to levy a duty on the importation of Foreign Cot n. I think that a fixed importation duty would conduce more to the interests of the farmers and the owners of land than the present fluctuating duties.—(Hear, 'near.) Let the not, however, be supposed to be speaking in terms of disparagement of my Hon. Friend who introduced the present Bill ; for I think that it was the means of in roducing a great im provement in the former Corn system ; it does nor, how ever seem to me to place the trade in Foreign Corn on a footing which can be ultimately adopted by this country. Hon. Gentlemen hive said that it is impossible to come to a satisfactory conclusion on this subject during the present Session of Parliament. In that opinion I en tirely concur. It has also been stated by others that at the present moment it would be impossible to discuss the sub ject with that calmness and consideration which the grave ness of the subject demands. It is very possible that those Hon. Gentlemen may he better judges of the matter than I am ; hut I certainly had flattered myself that this subject might be discussed without any display of that intemperate feeling, which is unfortunately at the present moment too prevalent in this House. It was with that view that I thought it desirable that, without any final adjudication of the question an opportunity should be afforded to lion. Gentlemen to compare the different opinions that were en tertained on this subject, and to discuss the various topics at icing out of it in that spirit which might most tend to the advantage of the country. Undoubtedly, if such a prospect cannot be reasonably entertained—it is impos sible to Hatter ourselves that such a result will ensue—it will be far better to leave the subject untouched for a time. At the same time let me remark that I gave this notice with the most perfect determination of bringing the ques tion forward ; and give me leave also to say, that in my opinion there is no class of society in this country which has more interest not only in having the question settled— but settled likewise in the sense in which I wish to see it settled—than the tenantry of England. One of the evils of the present state of things is, that it encourages both landlords and tenants to indulge in extravagant hopes and expectations which never can be realized, and the non-re alization of which must lead to the ruin of the tenant and the distress of the landlord. Every Btli thit does not proceed on sounder principles than the present Corn Bill, is viscious in its very foundation, and any superstructure that is built upon it must necessarily defeat the objects that it has in view. This, Sir, is strictly the view which I take upon the su ,ject of the Corn Laws. I have not entered into that view so fully as I could have wished ; but I trust that I have said enough to set the mind of the lion. Mem ber for Fifeshire at rest as to the intentions which I had on the subject. As to the great mass of consumers in the country, it cannot be denied that the present Corn Laws raise the price of provisions here beyond th it which they bear in any country on the continent : and when we see the formidable competition which there exists against our manufactures, I cannot help trembling for their pre eminence, if the price of provisions in this country is to rest at a level so greatly superior to that of foteien nations. —(Hear, hear.) These, Sir, are the reasons which have induced me to think that the present Corn Laws are not advantageous to the country.. Whether, therefore, I con sider the question in reference to the manufacturing c'asses or the agricultural classes, lam satisfied that the Corn Laws are iejorious to the great bulk of the community; aad even with respect to the Learned Lord, I doubt whe ther they confer so much benefit on him, as it is fancied that they do ; for though in some instances they procure for Lim a higher rent, they also necessarily increase all those other expenses which form with owners of land the great bulk of their expenditure. Mr. WESTERN-1 rise to order, Sir. Is the Noble Lot d making his motion now, or is he not ? I appre • bend not ; and yet lie is entering on a long train of ar guments, 'which, because there is no question before the House, no one will he flowed to answer.—(Hear, herr.) For instance, the Noble Lord has told us, that he is for a free trade in Corn, upon which I would beg to observe (Order, order)— The SPEAKER—I am afraid that fie Hon. Member himself is now about to fall into the same error of which he accuses the Noble Lot d. After the questions that have been put to the Noble Lord, it is certainly somewhat diffi cult to know exactly where to draw the precise line for his reply. The Noble Lord has been asked whether he intended to persevere in his motion for Wednesday next? Now it is certainly true, that as the motion cannot now be entertained by the House, it must not be debated by one side, when the other has no opportunity of replying. But the N. ble Lord being asked to postpone the motion, lie certainly wa: at liberty to state whether he would ac quiesce in or refuse that request and his reasons for so do ing ; but in going beyond that, and in entering on an ar gument in reference to the general subject, he certainly rendered himself liable to the comment of the Honourable 31eniber. Lori MILTON—I am sorry if I have extended my ob. servations too far ; but I thought they were called tor by the remark, that it was desirable that the putlic should know what my views really were. It may be that I have entered too touch into argument ; but I am sure that the flonouraWe Member himself would not have had we merely dryly state what my motion was to be. I have, however, now pretty well stated what my opinions are. Allow me to add, that I consider that our present Corn Lawss are very injurious to our intercourse with foreign nations. And now Sir, having responded to the appeal of the Hon. Member for Fifeshire, I must now respond to the appeal of those Hon. Gentlemen who coincide with me in opinion, and who have asked me to postpone this motion. To a certain extent 1 do agree with their statements ; for I did, undoubtedly consider that this would be the means o 1 paving the way for more active operations next session, and for making those ope rations more e:isy of execution. This, Sir, is not a ques don that is to be carried by storm. I desire no triumph of one party over another. What I want to see is this question settled with the consent of the landed interest. What I wished was—though perhaps it was a vain wish on my part—to he an instrument towards inducing all parties to take a calm and consentaneous view of this question. Above ali, I deemed it necessary that the agri. cultural interest should be a consenting part ; because should be extremely sorry that this question should be set. 'led, so as to leave a sting behind. Pressed, however, as I have been by different Honourable Friend+ on all sides, I think that I shall lie showing a greater deference to the House, is I now declare that I abandon all thoughts of bringing the question forward during the present session ; —(Hear, hear)—and allow me to add, that the proba bility is, that in so doing I must altogether resign the mo tion into hands more competent than mine to do it Justice A MEMBER, whose name we could not learn, expressed his astonishment that his Majesty's Government did not give an opinion upon the ►notion of the Noble Lord. Lord ALTHORP said that as his Majesty's Govern ment did not intend in the present Session to bring for ward any measures upon the Corn Laws, it was not in cumbent on them to express an opinion. If any motion had been made upon the subject his Majesty's Govern ment would have felt it their duty to have opposed it, but he did not think the Noble Lord in giving his notice was out of order. Lord STORMONT wished to know whether the lion. Member, who had given notice for a call of the House on Wednesday next, on the subject of the Coin Laws, in tended to persevere in his motion. Mr. BEST, we understood to say, wished for a full attendance of the House. PORTUGAL. Sir R. VYVYAN wished to ask the Noble Lord oppo site a question, as he thought it but right that the House should be put in possession of the terms upon which this country stood towards Portugal; and the question which lie had to put to the Noble Lord was, whether the fleet which had been sent out to Lisbon had any instructions to interfere in any of the existing differ ences between that country and any other?—(Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said that in reply to the ques tion of the Hon. Baronet the only answer he had to give was the same he gave on a former occasion, and which was, that his Majesty's Government intended to preserve the strictest neutrality so long as it was preserved by other Powers ; nor should it be violated until the interests and liberties of the country demanded it. The instructions which bad been given to Lord William Russell were in strict conformity to the intentions of his Majesty's Govern ment, and he was persuaded that the House would be satisfied with that explanation, as it was the only one he had to give upon that subject. Mr. ROBINSON wished to he informed by the Noble Lord whether any of the negotiations with France relative to British shipping had been brought to any satisfactory conclusion, for it appeared that in all the French ports British ships paid a duty of 3s. 6(1. per ton, while French ships in British ports paid only a tonnage of 7d. or Sd. be sides, the French Government charged for lightinc, and it did not appear that there was a single light from Flushing to Dunkiik.—([fear.) He conceived that the French Government was rather tardy in their concessions, and contrary to the stipulations of 1826. Load PALMERSTON said that his Majesty's Go vernment had adopted the most efficient means to carry into effect the negotiltions as related to British shipping, and which would have been long since perfected had it not been for the dissolution of the Chamber of Deputies ; but, as a preliminary step towards it, a considerable re duction of tonnage duties had been made in the port of Calais. lie was fully aware of the importance of the sub ject, and he could assure the lion. Member that his Ma jesty's Government would give the subject their immediate attention. Sir ROBERT PEEL was anxious to ask the Noble Lord a question relative to Portugal ; and it was this, whether, since April, IS3I, any demands had been made upon that; Government as s itisfaction for injuries sustained, or compensation for the dismissal of officers ; and whether these fresh demands were of pecuniary nature ; and if so, how lately were they made ?—(Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said, that about two months ago some fresh claims had been made on the Portuguese Government, but those claims were coeval with the prior claims. Mr. ROBINSON thought the answer of the Noble Lord to his question was anything but satisfactory. Eighteen months ago he gave notice of a motion on the subject, which at the suggestion of the Noble Lord he withdrew. The Noble Lord entertained strong hopes that those negotiations would be brought to a satisfactory issue, and the arrangment of them appeared to be as distant as ever. He thought it a very unfair exaction on the part of the French Government, and he trusted that some period would be fixed for carrying those ❑egotiations into effect ; if not, he would feel it is duty to give notice for a call of the House on the sohjec.. He thought it was a hard case on British ships to be paying such a duty. Lord PALNIERSTON said that it was true that the Hon. Member had agreed to withdraw lilt motion on that occasion. The fact was, that the two Governments were equally anxious to conclude the negotiations, which would have been done had it not been that it was the opinion of the French Government that they could;not he carried into effect without their passing a law ; but his opinion was that a law was not necessary. He had no doubt that the French Government would affirm the ne gotiations the moment they were convinced that they did not require a I iw to do SO. Sir it. PEEL observed that as there was a question of privilege before the House he would not occupy its time, but he thought the Noble Lord ought to explain the grounds upon which fresh demands had been made on the Portuguese Government, and explain the reason why these demands were made at this period, as it was not quite con sistent with the professed neutrality to do so. He would he glad to know whether his Majesty's Government had not cognizance of them at the time when the previous claims were made. I.3rd PALNIERSTON, in reply, said that these claims did not then come before Government in such a shape as they could be laid before the Portuguese Government. It was not inconsistent with two Governments on terms of friendship to demand from each other compensation at any period. Sir R. PEEL begged to appeal to tie Noble Lord as to whether at the time those claims were mate was it not then stated in the documents laid before the House that a general review was made of all claims of this Government upon the Portuguese, and it was con-idered that the claim then made was the ultimatum of all ? Some observations were made by Sir H. VYVYAN and Lord PA LMERSTON which \vete inaudible. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Mr. STANLEY moved the Order of the Day. He said that it was not his intention to take any further steps as regarded the lire ,ch of privilege which had been com mitted, except to show the House that no effort on his part was wanting to ascertain by what means it had oc curred. Fur the satisfaction of the House he thought it necessary to call all the officers who were in any wiy re sponsible tor the distribution of the papers of that House. The first person he proposed to call was Mr. Witham, the clerk of the Committee. Mr. Witham was clerk to the Committee on the Irish Tithes. On the 14th of May he received the report in question from the Chairman of that Committee, which he sent in the usual way to the Issrnal-offire to be printed, and received through that office twenty-four printed copies, twenty of which he put in envelopes, and directed them to the Members of the Committee. Two he kept for the Chairman, and two for himself, one of which he I lispowi of by the directions of the Chairman. He gave the twenty which he had sealed up, and directed for the Members, to a porter of the name of Reece, to be taken to Mr. Bellamy, the under-doorkeeper, to have them distri hotel. Mt. Lefroy subsequently informed him that he had not received his copy. He then made inquiry from Mr. Bellamy, and learned that they had been given by him to a porter of the name of Butler. He sent far Butler, and tie appeared to be di unk. Butler was not employed by him. It was Mr. Bellamy that engaged him, whose duty it was to distribute Parliamentary Papers. Examined by several INlEmßEns—Wh en Mr. Lefroy told him that he had not received his copy, he asked Butler, the porter, the reason, who replied that he had delivered all the copi, s he had got. Mr. Bull, of the Journal-office, was called in—He re ceived the number which be ordered to be printed flow Mr. Hansard ; they were folded up in one parcel, and he sent them to Mr. Witham,theclerk of the Committee. _ ...... The next witness was Mr. Hansard, th e printer, wh , stated that the draught of the report was sent to his office on Monday, the 14th of May, about noon. The number of ordered was twenty-four. H e p r i nte d thirty. lie copiessent the twenty-four, and kept the extra six fur any Mew bets which might be added to the Committee. The twenty four he sent sealed up in a parcel directed to Mr. Witham; the s x be still retaish:ti, ant: were then in his posse:4i( n, and untler lack awl key, and in perfect security. It will impossible for any of them to have got into circulation. It vas impossible to obtain a copy of the report even surrep •itinusly. Mr. Bellamy, the lower doorkeeper, got the twenty copies of the report from the 1 ist witness. It was in the evening that they were sent to him. When lie got them he locked them up, iind delivered them to the porters for distribution in the morning. He had five porters ; each had a separate district ; he gave the twenty copies amongst them according to their districts. All the porters were under his control. For misconduct he sometimes suspends them.—(A laugh.) Butler got whatever might have been for delivery in his district. The copies of the report, from the time he received them, remained under lock and key till he delivered them to the porters for distribution. But ler was a person of good character, but rather addicted to drinking.—(A diugh.) Mr. STANLEY did not think it necessary to call any new witnesses. It was evident from the examination that they hat no means of ascertaining how the report got into circulation. It was quite clear, the fault was between Butler and Bellamy. He was of opinion that some re medy ought to be applied, and it was for the House to consider what that remedy should be. The SPEAKER sail the present mode was full of danger, which he thought could only be obviated by di recting every paper of that description to remain with the clerk until called for by the Members of the Committee, and if Hon. Members would do so he had no doubt but it would remedy the evil. Mr. STANLEY hoped that the plan suggested by the Right Hon. the Speaker would be adopted. Lord ALTHORP made a few observations, but in so low a tone of voice that we could not accurately gather the effect of the Noble Lord's statement. After a few words from Mr. BARING, Mr. SHAW held in his hand a petition from Mr. Sheehan, in which that Gentleman, in transmitting the account of the Tithe Committee to Ireland, said he was not aware that he was guilty of a breach of the privileges of this House. The offence of Mr. Sheehan was merely an act of inadvertence, for which he should not be severely punished. The petition of Mr. Sheeha❑ was then brought up aid read. Sir C. WETHERELL said no proof had been offered that the report published by Mr. Sheehan was surrepti tiously obtained, or that he bad acted in any way which would disgrace a perf ct man of honour. After a few words from Mr. Stanley, Sir C. Wetherell, Lord AlthoT, Mr. C. Wynn, Mr. O'Connell, Captain Gordon, Mr. Leader, and Sir H. Hardinge, Mr. Sheehan was called in and discharged. SCOTCH REFORNI BILL. Lord ALTHORP moved the Order of the Day for the further consideration of the Scotch Reform Bill. Sir R. PEEL wished to ask what was to be done with the Boundarie4 (England) Bill? Lord J. RUSSELL said he intended to bring it in, if possible, on Monday next. The House then resolved itself into Committee on the Bill. The first clause was postponed. The second clause, after some conversation, was agreed to. Upon the third clause being moved, Sir G. MURRAY rose to complain of the inequality of the representation as given to the different portions of the empire by these Bills. He contended that in strict justice, according to the principles of the Government, Scotland was entitled to 69 Members. The Right Hon. Baronet showed, by the different comparisons which had so often been made, the great disparity of the representa tion given to Scotland, as compared with England and Wal,s, in reference to population, property, and all the other tests applied in the course of the discussions. Whether they made these comparisons upon a general scale, or whether they took them in detail, the same re sults were produced. If such a change as that contem plated in the Bill were to be made, he could not consent to see it made unfairly towards Scotland, as certainly it would he according to its present provisions, and tried by its own professed rules. The Right Hon. Baronet con chided by moving to insert in the clause words to the effect that two Members should be given to each of the large counties in schedule A, and one to each of the smaller ones in schedule B. Mr. HUME was surprised to hear what he had heard from the Right Hon. Baronet, who had bitterly opposed all Reform. The people of Scotland had not asked tor any change in the Bi;I, and he believed they would be satisfied with it as it stood. Sir G. MURRAY explained. . . _ The LORD ADVOCATE at one time entertained the same doubts as the lion. and Gallant Officer as to the jus tice of the proportions of representation given to Scotland. But upon investigation be bad satisfied his mind that it was impossible to have a system of exact symmetrical pro portion. Th e Learned Lord then compared Scotland with vatiou'i parts of England, showing that by Lieutenant Drumtnond's tests Scotland had an equal, and in some cises a larger, share of representation. He contended also that the proportions of the county and borough re presentation in Scotian', as established by the Bill, were the same as those which existed before the Union, and more in favour of the counties than they were after that period. He could see no arrangement by which the counties could he represented more advantageously than under that provided by the Bill. Sir G. CLERK was convinced that Scotland bad a claim to additional representation. Upon the best infor mation he had been able to obtain it was clear that the agricultural interest of Scotland would not meet with adequate representation. The Right Hun. Member was willing to admit that when a material alteration had taken place in England a change must take place in Scotland ; but they were bound to take care that justice be done to Scotland. Whatever might be the proportion between county and borough Members at the Union, it was neces sary to guard against any injury to the agricultural inte rest. By giving an excess of representation to the manu facturing interest, the agricultural interest would be in jured. If one more Member were added to ►he county Members fur Scotland, the evil which he pointed out might be remedied. The Right Hon. Baronet could nut consi der the Bill a permanent measure. Sir J. MALCOLM concurred in the sentiments ex pressed by his Right Hon. and Gallant Friend. He was one who voted for General Gascoyne's motion, because he though the English County ALmbers should remain the same in number. For the same reason he was unwilling to disturb the representation fur the purpose of adding more Members to Scotland. Much hidbe n said about petitions, but the number of petitions was not the criterion by which decisions in that House were to be iu fluenced,—(llear.) Hun. Members might sail with the current which had carried them to their haven on the presint question, but the same current might drive them much further than they desired to go. If petitions were to influence all the proceedings in that House, the peti tioners would at last become a fourth estate in the Con stitution. He should vote for the amendment. Colonel LINDSAY had never opposed Reform, but he opposed the Bill then under discussion because it was an unjust one, and he lamented that his Majesty's Ministers had brought it forward. Sir G. WARRENDER said the proposition of General Gascoyne fur keeping the number of English County Members unaltered he considered injurious to Scotland. If more Members were necessary for Scotland they ought to have them ; but he could not deny the same claim on the part of Leland. If the number for Scotland was in creased they could not refuse to increase those for Ireland. Mr. SINCLAIR said—Sir, I shall state very shortly to the House my reasons for opposing the motion of the Right Hon. and Gallant Member. Notwithstanding all that has been asserted to the contrary, I am convinced that the people of Scotland are perfectly satisfied with the measure as now proposed, and are willing to accept so great a boon in full of all demands. They would prefer a less conside rable number of Members, independently chosen by them selves, to a larger proportion of nominal representa tives, elected under the present system of monopoly and injus tice. There enters, Sir, into our calculations on this subject, one important element, which cannot be supposed to influ ence the minds of lion. Members opposite—l mean, that of gratitude towards his Majesty's Ministers, for a measure by which our rights are so tally secured, and our interests so essentially promoted. We know they had many parties to conciliate, many pretensions to adjust, many obstacles to overcome, many difficulties to contend with. W e believe that their inquiries were conducted with care, and their decisions dictated by imp ar ti a li ty ; so that as !age a share of representation has, on the whole, been awarded to Scotland as was consistent with the rights, and propor , tioned to the claims, of the other districts of the United Empire. Sir, I shall here allude to one expression which fell from the R:ght Um. Member. He has hinted, that the decisions of this House are mainly influenced by the will of the Minister. Our opponents, during the whole of these discussions, in estimating the motives of those with whom I have the honour to act, have inverted the order of cause and effect. Our support has been given— not to Reform for the sake of Ministers, but—to Ministers for the sake of Reform, believing, as we do, that the suc cess of the cause is mainly linked and identified with the continuance of the present Administration in office. We have not voted for the disfranchisement of decayed and dependent towns because they have lo en ranked undo certain schedules by his Majesty's Government, but we have rallied round the standard of that Government, be cause they were pledged to eradicate nomination borotNiss— t public nuisance, which, in our opinion, could not be too soon, or too effectually, swept away. Neither, Sir, have the Scotch Members on this aide of the House adopted the' Scotch Reform Bill because it has emanated from the pre -ent Cabinet, but we gratefully cooperate with that Cabi net because no ether politicians of our day would have vo luntarily undertaken the revision of a representative sys tem, in our opinion not less derogatory to the honour of Scotland than detriment d to the interests of the country at large. It has been urged, by an Hon. Friend of mine, that the people of Scotland, though favourable to the principles of this measure, are neither thoroughly ac quainted with its details, nor aware how small a number of additional representatives is allotted to them under its provisions. To this supposition, I can by no means assent. The details, as well as the principles, of the Bill, were on various occasions discussed during the former session, and both before and since that period have been frequently sifted in all the public pipers, both metropolita❑ and pro vincial, without eliciting one single petition in favour of the increase of Members, for which those very statesmen now contend, by whom all Reform was so strenuously re sisted, as long as they themselves were in office. Being, therefore, thankful to the authors of the arrangement now propounded, and knowing that it is cordially approved of by my own constituents in particular, as well as by the people of Scotland in general, I feel that, by giving to it my hearty and unqualified support, I shall best discharge my duty towards the country to which I have the honour to belong, and to promote the real welfare of which I am at all times most solicitous. Mr. S. WORTLEY said the Learned Lord Advocate had been rather shy in citing the representation of Wales in comparison with Scotland. Whatever might be said about Lancashire and Yorkshire, there was a greater ana logy between Scotland and Wales. Upon a comparison with the principality of Wales, Scotland had cause to complain of the want of a fair proportion of Representa_ tives. He could not avoid giving his support to the amendment. Mr. STEWART supported the Bill, and considered it a great boon to Scotland. He thought it was matter of congratulation that Hon. Members on the opposite side now appeared to have become Ultra-Reformers. Mr, R. A. DUNDAS repeated the objections which he had previously made to the Bill, and then proceeded to offer some remarks in reply. _ _ _ Sir A. DALRYMPLE would not have risen had it not been that he felt the Hon. Member for Middlesex bad assumed a sort of dictatorship on this occasion. He would support the motion of the Hon. and Gallant Member. Mr. C. BRUCE, we believe, after a few words, stated his intention to vote for the amendment, and denied that the feeling in Scotland was unanimously iu favour of this Bill. Mr. PRINGLE supported the amendment of the Right Hon. and Gallant Officer. Mr. C. PELHAM maintained that there should be an increase of Members given to Scotland. Mr. SHEIL rose to state a simple fact, and to ask a simple question. The University of Dublin at present re turned one Member, and it was proposed to give it one more. In Scotland there were four Universities. How did it happen that in the latter cases not one Member was to be returned ? The House then divided, when the numbers were— For the Amendment GI For the original clause l6B Majority in favour of the original clause 107 On our return to the gallery we found the CHAIRMAN putting some clauses, upon which Mr. C. BRUCE had no hope, after the division which had just taken place, in carrying any motion made by him into effect ; but he trusted that the county of Elgin, the constituency of which was purely agricultural, was one worthy of peculiar notice. It was, however, iuteuded by this Bill to swamp the county of Elgin by joining it with another county. The Hon. Member having entered into various details, proceeded to appeal to the justice of the Learned Lord, and to move that the county of Elgin be transferred from schedule B to schedule A. The CHAIRMAN suggested that the Committee were only on clause 3. The motion was then withdrawn. On clause 6 being put, the Hon. Captain GORDON moved the adjournment of the debate till to-morrow. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and the Com mittee was ordered to sit again on Monday. Mr. STANLEY postponed the further progress of the Irish Reform Bill till Wednesday seinnight. The House having resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means, the report was ordered to be received on Monday upon the suggestion of Sir G. CLERK, who stated that some Hon. Friends of his were desirous of offering some remarks upon the bringing up of the report. On the motion of Lord TULLAMORE, that the Report on the King's County Assize Bill be brought up, Mr. PONSONBY moved the postponement of this pro ceeding, and declared he would take the sense of the House upon the question. - After afew words from Lord TULLAMORE and Mr. J. GRATTAN, the House divided, when there appeared— For the original motion ( .O For the amendment 8 Alajority in favour of the original motion —s4 The Report was then brought up, and the Bill ordered to be engrossed, and to be read a third time on Wednes day next. On the motion of Mr. SPRING RICE, the Punishment of Death Abolition Bill (in certain cases) was read a third time and passed. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned shortly after Two o'Clock. KELSO, MAY 28. • The King's birthday was bel.d here with all the usual tokens of loyalty. A large bonfire blazed in the market place, and a party of gentlemen dined, in honour of the day, in the Cross Keys Hotel. In the evening a multitude of people had congregated in the market-place, expecting the gratification of seeing the effigy of the Duke of Wellington burned. About ten p. in., the " Duke" appeared, borne a'oft upon a high ipole, and excellently dressed. He was also accompanied by two snore effigies of the same " caste ;" the one representing Sir Robert Peel, and the other Sir Charles Wetherell. After the crowd had paraded every street in the town, they consigned the objects of their hatred to the flames, amid astounding yells and execrations. A local Newspaper, professing Anti principles, met with a similar fate. BRADFORD, WILTS, JUNE 1. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. SIR, -- It is the source of general surprise, that no no tice has been taken of the great meeting at Bath, on Mon day last, by the London Papers, particularly as the reso lutions adopted there were ordered to be printed in The Sun Paper, and the four Bath Papers. It was one of the grandest and most magnificent meetings ever held in the west of England. The Bath and Cheltenhain Gazette calculates the assemblage at 55,000 persons ; for my own part (having had an opportunity of witnessing a great meeting in London, in which all the newspapers agreed that there were upwards of 100,000 individuals present), I should say, that there were not less than 80,000 persons present, in which I am corroborated by the opinions of several old soldiers. It was originally in tended as a meeting of the Bath Political Union and in habitants generally ; but the neighbouring Political Unions considered that it would be a good opportunity for making a show of public opinion in this district, and determined, therefore, to .attend in great force. The day was most propitious, the shops through all the principal streets were closed, and the upper windows were graced with nee. and T u h p e d t i h f- e crowds of elegantly-dressed females, which, combined with the number of bands of music, and appropriate Ai b al.pee a r,tre n eoeealc s a nt. bei e ttnoso r sgu s ui banners, nin&leiet,oichgn.Baei,sinat formedhad a m nearos t timposinghe sSidney aohe rich han Hotel,a d particularstmeeting,haemove, reporter. Ip o vo l etrn: t ue l a: re s.t all Hampton and Bathwick roads, and after parading through all the principil streets, proceeded to the place of t d l oh l , t c i I l g r i„o e l a i cp p ke C r r r : n. i l l . m e i s eii t ' i c o o r i r n : . o s nf a u t l F ,va o is t: that patriotic and noble-minded man, Colonel L. G. Jones, whom they claim as a townsman, had promised to meet them at Bath. At nine o'clock the Trowbridge Political Union, accompanied tmy a band of music, appro priate banners, and an immense concourse of people, ar rived, when the two Unions of Bradford and Trow bridge formed in one body, with three bands of . music, five large flags, and union jacks, and an rar7n-e number of banners ; a bundle of sticks , inscribed " Attwood," a beautiful garland of flowers, &c.-- Among the inscriptions on the and the Ministry," " Attwood and 'termination , " " Our banners were " Earl Grey Brother Reformers of all Nations," " A House of Freedom or a Grave of Glory," " Britons' Freedom is our Cruse," " United to prevent Starvation," " Let Tax Eaters pa ) the Taxes," " Nail our Flags to the Mast, and bravely de fend our Rights," " Our numbers are Thousands, our Hearts are One,"" Put not your trust in Ptincas." There were too black flags, one inscribed " Tyrants take warn - ing," the other " Confusion to Bishops and Borough mongers,"rsenre & who p &c. &cro" and headed by a r es p ec t a bl e b o dy o f horsemen, proceeded in regular order, to the number of about five thousand, to Bath. By some injudicious arran4entent, aft e r th e p r ocession had passed through the principal streets at Bath, the Bradford Union was directed to file down in a line just before they got to the pace of fleeting, and, in conse quence, were separated froua many of their party, and it was only by their good nature that the rest of them were kept together. They had a very fatiguing march of se veral hours without refreshment, and the sun striking down upon them with great force. At the conclusion of the proceedings the Bradford and Trowbridge Unions filed off and proceeded in regular order to a place about three miles from Bah, were they halted for half an hour, and arrived at Bradford about nine ; after having given their brethren of Trowbridge three cheers, they separated in a perfectly orderly manner, without the least disturbance having taken place. I remain, Sir, yours, &e. VERITAS. ----- MURDER.-LYNN, MAY 30. Great consternation was manifested in this town on Monday night, in consequence of a report that the Rev. Arthur Iveson, of South Lynn, had been shot. This was confirmed next day by an inquest held on the body at the Goat, before Mi. Lane, coroner. At tee the pie ceding evening, the Rev. A. Iveson was sitting in his room, during which time his son, the Rev. T. Iveson, hastily entered, and after a few desultory remarks, drew from his pocket a pistol, which he pointed at his father, and the contents were lodged in the right auricle of the heart. After this be went to the next house, occupied by Captain Lake, and informed hint of what bad taken place, conjuring him at the same time to enter and take posses ion. The Captain proceeded forthwith to the room, where he found the venerable man gasping for breath. Mr. Murlin, a surgeon, was almost momentarily on the spot, and Dr. Tweedale was also in attendance, but their services were of no avail, as he died in less than twenty minutes from the time the hall entered his body. Whilst all this was going on, the son had placed himself in the kitchen, where be was found by the officers of justice, into whose bands lie resigned himself volun tarily, having first taking the opportunity to swallow a large quantity of laudanum, but from the effects of which he was relieved by Mr. Marlin. The Jury assembled at one,' . on Tuesday, and finished their sitting at nine, during which time a post mortern examination took :place, from which we learn that the ball pierced the heart but could not be found. The fol lowing verdict was announced :—" That the said Rev. Thomas Iveson did, with intent and forethought, shoot his father with a pistol, and that he died in consequence." The prisoner was conveyed to gaol in a post-chaise, and is remanded for examination before the civil autl o cities. He is a gentlemantly person, 34 years of age, and possesses considerable mental acquirements. Of late much eccentricity marked hie conduct, bordering, it is said, on insanity. Deceased was about 65, and has long rtsided in Lynn, where he was generally esteemed for his bene volence. He was Rector of East Bradenham, Norfolk.— Carnbridge Chronicle. LATE FIRE IN OXFORD-STREET. CORONER'S INQUEST.—Thursday afternoon an inquest was held before Mr. Higgs, at the Sun and Thirteen Canteen a, in Great Pultency-street, to inquire into the cause of the death of Mrs. Ann Townley Twamley, who died in a few hours after she was conveyed from the fire on Tuesday last. The deceased was 70 years of age, and for many years one of the opera dancers both at Covent-garden and the Opera-house. Abraham Harrison, No. 10, Newton-street, Holborn, smith, about twenty minutes past six o'clock on Monday morning, heard an alarm of fire from his master's premises in Dean-street. When he, with his shopmates, went into the yard there were two gentlemen on the leads of the back parlour of Mr. Spires's house. Immediately after he saw the deceased, who was sit ting on the coping -stone of the second floor window of the house belonging to Mr. Smithers, in Oxford-street ; at this moment her daughter took her in her arms. The wit ness went with a ladder, and said "for God's sake be pa tient for a few minutes." The fire was approaching them, and they both fell down together, apparently from fright, a distance of about ten feet, on the leads below. The fire was coming out of one of the windows at the time. He immediately took up the deceased and removed her to his master's premises. She was quite insensible. The daughter appeared quite frantic ; she was calling out for her child. He knew nothing of the origin of the fire. Mr. Henry Robert Abrams, of John street, N. James's square, surveyor and architect, had, at the request of the neighbours near the house where the late fire took place, at tended on Wednesday and examined the premises, where he found in a vault on the basement story, a small quantity of gun powder in a card, which was folded in the shape of a trough, and a continuation of powder in small portions in a train, till it reached a shelf on which the card was deposited ; at the end of the shelf was a small quantity of shavings laid in a heap, under which was a piece of oiled paper, on which gunpowder had been placed, and had exploded ; the shavings had partially ignited, one part of them had been on fire, and the witness supposes the blast had put it out; there was also a bottle turned upside down, which had contained turpentine; about twe feet from the shavings was a deal board, on the ground, upon which a fire had been laid, and a communication formed by the same to a coal-bin, in which was a large quantity of coals; there was a continuation of deal boards placed in a slant ing direction along the west wall of the cellar, which was the partition which divided the vault from the kitchen, which line of deal boards and old baskets, extended to the partition dividing the vault, which partition remains untouched by the fire; the whole is a strong bricked arch, near thirty feet long. The witness was of opinion the oiled paper would have caught fire, but it did not, the powder merely partially exploded. The witness then went on to state what he had seen in the kitchen, which he described as follows ; near the water-closet door he had discovered the lower part of a sack, which was nearly full of shavings ; there was a portion of them, near half a bushel, unconsumed and wet, the rest were burned ; there was also a great quantity of wood ashes. By a Juror—Was that a place where the shavings might have been laid casually ?—By no means, it would obstruct the way. By the CORONER—Where did it appear to you that the fire originated ?—ln my opinion the fire commenced first under the stairs. The witness was in the habit of surveying houses for a fire-office, and was satisfied that the fire that consumed the house originated at or under the stairs. It was the opinion of the Jury that it was not their province to inquire into the cause of the fire, but merely to ascertain the cause of the death of the deceased, when they returned the following verdict :—" That the deceased being aged and in• firm, in a weak state of body, and in the last stage of asthma, her death was caused by fright, and a fall, at the late tire in Oxford-street." Yesterday evening, at seven o'clock, Mr. Higgs, the Coroner, and Jury, re-assembled at the Golden Lion, Dean-street, Soho, when the inquiry was resumed touching the death of )lio Eliza Twamley, who perished in the fire in Oxford-street 0' Monday morning, when the following additional evidence will adduced : Mr. Edward Lonsdale, house-surgeon of the Middlesex:Ho o ' pital, deposed, that Mr. Smithers was brought to the hospital 0 9 Monday morning, about half-past six o'clock, lie examine , ' him, and found that his face and hands were most severely burnt. The burns on the face were of a light blue colour. This peculiar colour might Lave been produced by an explo sion of gunpowder. Mr. Misery Ilawksworth, one of the Jury, had examine ( ' the premises with his brother Jurors and other gentlemen. Th e irot • grating in the front of the house was forced up, through winch he entered, and made his way to the kitchen. His attention was first directed to the kitchen range, HM I it did not appear as if any fire had been made there on Monday morning. There was a saucepan on the left bob, quite full of clean water. The fire-place was completely encumbered with rubbish. A quanta,' of this entire hcleared away, e discovered' hasi ng . n i ot which had not been burnt. Some shavings were also at t h; the ru bo h t i t s o h m o havingf a sack, beenai and near it bottom of this sack, which was about two feet from the stair s ' Further on, in removing some mere rubbish, h e p u t hi s spnae into a quantity of soft stuff; containing a b ou t t h ree b us hels' It had a strong mineral sm e ll, an d was white on the exter ior, and green inside. Ile had si nce care f u ll y examined this stuff,: and found it strongly imp regna t e d w i t h n i tre or saltpetre. was found under the st a ir s w ith some s h avings heaped on '" He was of opinion th a t th e fi re or i g i nated at least seven fee; from the range, and ne ar w h ere th ese combustibles were p lae a s under the stairs. The fl a m es appeare d t o h ave rebounded fr°'l- the ceiling, and burnt the t o p o f th e man t e l p i ece, b u t the 1-1 " , der part was scarcely s i nge d . Th e cur b o f th e copper 0. ,-, covered with lead, and th a t s id e f ac i ng th e s t a i rs was melte ° , whilst that opposite the fire-place remained entire. The pO ti ; tion near the scullery was much burnt on the kitchen side, I )° , that part nearest the vault was hot much injured. The ti; was laid in the range, but did not appear much burnt. small quantity of gunpowder was found in the vault, together with some shavings, and a quantity of dry wood. rt' Mr. Samuel D av i s, of 9.7, Soho-square, auctioneer, had aP 3 , men ts on the first-floor of the house. About half-past eleeve;; o'clock on Sunday evening he came home, and was let ai de Mr. Smithers, w hi c h was rather unusual for him to do. '0 gave witness a can dl e, w i th which he had occas i on to go doo' e stairs, and Mr. Smithers followed him, and said there was ' ° : 11 , 1 e wood and sha v i ngs, and desired him to be careful w ith light. On getting below, he saw some pieces of wood betwe el e , the copper and water_closet. Smithers hastily put himself fore the wood as if t o hid e i t from w i tness as h e passed to t e j water_closet. Smither s s t o pp e d with him whil e lie rentai°,o below, and hurried him away, saying that he wanted to V ol t the water-closet himself. He did not, however, go there, followed witness up stairs. to By a Juror—Witness soon after he went up stairs rettr‘ — eo , ily stir Ilef, ,ro o l‘, aan u irr i cd t sth d a.os al Smithers eitt i uh e ej el d uerh iar, c snaud u :ist r ,ecin t ,di l ise i nre " oleg : :t ; l jetih o irp:dco ' . . bed, and heard nothing more until he was awoke in the 1n c 20 4 es. he h i mc 3 N i u N e :: )g '::l ll s : t . e a' h ta l i s t e' , l : ril i l s d i l l b e i a t lt a e i g lo ,i 'a c) o e d ph r t ee . isdn i ( ti ss lt t a c i o ol i lu d r :t rt t l h o : € t e ro eo d r i Y a s a i i l ti r : i lli t ( ms l iefl o, l s o v'a t u e l i . house on lire; you have not been in bed all night." S' n ' t t von , replied, " Hold your tongue, you foolish woman, (Jon i *: 00 see how I'm burnt ?" Smithers was dressed the same as the preceding night. vire' Edward Saunders, fireman, belonging to the British h „ i t office, deposed th at Smithers had insured there to the a u ' o h i u c lir of WO/. on his ow n account, an d 70/. for a l o d ger; for bowevvrdie had not yet obtained the policy, Witness yyo s r