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be most happy to listen to it; but if not he hoped he would allow him to proceed with his motion. (Hear.) Mr. DISRAELI believed he was strictly in order, in rising to move that the house do now adjourn. (011, oh ! and No, no !) Sir J. SHELLEY rose amid groans and hootings from the Opposition. He rose to order. The hon. member for Reading was in possession of the house, and he asked if it was competent in that case for the right hon. gentleman to move the adjournment? (Hear, hear.) The SPEAKER said, he had called upon the hon, mem ber for Reading, and he supposed when the right hon. gen tleman rose that it was his intention to put to him a ques tion on the subject of his motion. Mr. DISRAELI would not repeat his motion for an ad journment ; but he would ask the hon. member for Read ing whether he thought it fair to bring forward a motion such as that on the paper at an hour when it would be impossible for the house to listen to anything more than the charge? (Hear, hear.) Mr. H. KEATING should be very sorry to have the appearance of doing anything unfair, especially with re ference to a motion of no ordinary importance. At the same time, the right hon. gentleman must recollect that he was a private member of the house, and could not com mand his own time as to bringing forward the motion. He should be extremely sorry to press the motion under such circumstances as would prevent an answer being beard from the other side of the house; but, if he pat off the motion, he did not know when he would be able to ring it on again. (Hoar, hear.) Unless a day was given him by the Government he must proceed with his motion now. (" Go on.") Mr. DISRAELI suggested that the hon. gentleman should appeal to the noble lord the leader of the Govern ment in that house for a day. (Cries of "Go on !") Sir J. P A KTNGTON hoped the noble lord would re lease the hon. gentleman from his difficulty. As a mem ber of the late Government he wished to say that he did not shrink from this discussion, and that he would be pre pared to meet any charge that could be brought forward. "Order, order !") Lord J. RUSSELL could only say that the Government business was of such pressing importance, that it would be impossible for him to assign a day in the meantime. (Cries of " Go on !") Mr. H. KEATING then proceeded with his motion, which was as follows :—" That, referring to the report of the Select Committee on Dockyard Promotions, and the evidence upon which it is founded, this house is of opinion that during the administration of the late Board of Admi ralty the patronage of dockyard promotions and the influ ence of the Admiralty were used and exercised for political purposes to an extent and in a manner calculated to reflect discredit upon that department of the Government, and to impair the efficiency of the service." He begged to as sure the house that he had given notice of this motion der a very deep conviction that the report recently laid on the table on the subject of dockyard promotions ren dered an expression of the opinion of the house on the important facts stated in that report absolutely necessary. (Hear.) When the hon. baronet (Sir B, Hall) brought this subject originally before the house, he stated in a clear and able speech that an alteration of an important kind had been made by the late Board of Admiralty in an unu sual,if not irregular, way, with reference to th e cancella tion of a circular issued by their predecessors which regu lated promotion in the dockyards, and he also stated he had reason to believe that this proceeding was adopted with a view to the coming elections, and for poli tical purposes. After considerable discussion the motion of the hon. baronet was agreed to, and a committee ap pointed. That committee was extremely well qualified for the task assigned to it, chosen as it was from both sides of the house, and comprising men of station, great know ledge of business, and considerable Parliamentary expe rience—(hear, hear)—presided over by a noble lord whose great talents for business all who came in contact with him well knew, and whose exalted rank and acquaintance with official life rendered him peculiarly fit for the discharge of such a duty. (Hear, hear.) But he h a d ano th er qualifi cation, for he was chairman of the committee which sat in 1848 on the estimates of the navy, army, and ordnance. (Hear, hear.) The committee, constituted as he had de scribed, ably and faithfully discharged their duty, and the public at large regarded their proceedings with the greatest possible anxiety. (Hear.) He did not exaggerate the state of the public feeling when he said there never was a committee of that house the proceedings of which were watched with more interest. (Hear.) The committee made their reports to the house, and, confining itself strictly to the terms of the reference which had been made to it, contented itself with stating facts, and gave no opi nion whatever on those facts. In his opinion the com mittee acted wisely in so doing. The inquiry committed to them was one not only of an important, but of a very delicate matter, and he thought when the terms of the re ference to the committee were considered, it would be seen that they exercised a wise discretion, and that it would have been too much of that house to ask the committee to pronounce an opinion on a matter of so much delicacy. (Hear, hear.) [The hon. gentleman here read the terms of the motion appointing the committee.] The report which was laid on the table could only be appreciated after a very minute acquaintance with the evidence on which it was founded. It gave no conclusions; but, as a masterly analysis of the evidence, he had no hesitation in saying that the report was one of the ablest documents ever laid on the table of the house. The committee had reported the facts of the case to the house, and those facts, what ever aspect any Parliamentary conventional notion might give to them, were considered important and startling by the country at large. (Hear, hear.) It was with a deep conviction that an expression of opinion on the part of the house - upon those facts deeply involved its credit, that he ventured to ask the assent of the house to his motion. (Hear, hear.) He had framed the motion with a sincere desire to avoid giving to it the appearance of personal hostility to any person whatever ; and he need scarcely for his own part disclaim entertaining any such feeling, for he had not the slightest personal ac quaintance with any person mentioned in the report of the committee ; and it would be foreign to his nature to wish to convert a great public question into a personal matter. Indeed, he felt it would not comport with the dignity of the house, nor with the feeling of the people of the country to seek after the precise part taken by any person in any thing mentioned in the report, for what was the important matter was, the system which the report disclosed ; and it was against that system, and that system alone, that his resolution was directed. (Hear, hear,) The right hon. gentleman opposite, therefore, was mistaken in supposing that the resolution was levelled at anything more than what was expressed therein—namely, the system which was unfortunately adopted with respect to dockyard pro motions by the late Board of Admiralty. The house was aware that in 1847 the state of the dockyardsattracted the serious attention of the then Board of Admiralty, presided over by Lord Auckland. There was no doubt, from the terms of a circular then issued, that the state of the dock yards at that time was such as to be extremely unsatis factory, and that was partly, if not 'mainly attributable to the circumstance of political influence controling promo tions in the dockyards. [The hon. member here quoted that part of the circular of February 1847, in which the Lords of the Admiralty expressed their apprehension that promotion in the dockyards was regarded rather as a mat ter of accident or favour than as a reward due to merit.] In the circular of 1847 rules were laid down, first, with re gard to the entrance of apprentices into the dockyards, and next with regard to the promotion of parties already th ere . This circular, as succinctly described in the report of the select committee which recently sat, expressed the deter mination of the Lords of the Admiralty. " To introduce and maintain a system of promotionunder which every man who shall have once entered the service of the dockyards may learn to look to his own exertions as the only means of future advancement. With the view of giving effect to this determination, the circular contains a scheme, according to which, whenever a vacancy offering an opportunity for promotion shall occur, the principal officers of the dockyard are directed to select three names of the persons who, after examination, shall appear best qualified to iill the vacancy, and they are required to submit these names, with a full report of the respective merits of the can didates, to the superintendent of the dockyard. The duty is then imposed en the superintendent of investigating closely these returns, and of satisfying himself as to their perfect impartiality, after which he is authorised to reduce the number of candidates to two, by striking out the name of that candidate who he considers least qualified. The re port of the superintendent, containing his opinion of the merits of the candidates, with the original documents an nexed, is then to be forwarded to the Admiralty, and the Lords of the Admiralty announce their intention to be guided by those reports in the selection of one from the two names submitted to fill the vacancy." The effect of that circular was, that the Board of Admiralty gave up absolutely all patronage with respect to promo tions in the dockyards--(hear, hear)—though it reserved undoubtedly to itself the patronage of original appoint ments, or first entrances. With regard to promotions in the dockyards, the Lords of the Admiralty, by that circu lar, parted completely with the patronage beyond the single act of selecting one of the two names sent up by the superintendent of the dockyard, and in making that selec tion they would unquestionably consult the persons they made the judges of merit -namely, the superintendent and the principal officers of the dockyard ; for it would not be consistent with the spirit of the circular to make a capri cious selection, or one based on political preference, with out regard to merit. (Hear, hear.) Now, in the early part of 1849, u p on th e d ea th of Lord Auckland, the right hon. gentleman the member for Portsmouth (Sir F.Baring) succeeded him as First Lord of the Admiralty, and it would be an act of injustice, after reading the evidence given before the committee which recently sat, not to pay to that right bon. gentleman that tribute of admiration which was due for his administration of the navy depart ment. (Cheers.) During the whole course of his adminis tration the right hon. baronet seemed to have had only one object in view, and that was the good of the public " service. (Renewed cheers.) When the right hon. baronet was called on to administer the affairs of the Board of Admiralty, in consequence of a reconstruction which had recently before taken place in the department of the Sur veyor of the Navy, a corresponding change in reference to the routine business of the dockyards became almost abso lutely necessary, and the main matter now for considera tion was, what appeared ,i to have been a mos t un j ustifiable interference with nepartment of that surveyor. [Here there were several cries of " Order !" occasioned by some disorder in the house, and Admiral BERKELEY rose, and complained that the hon. member for Donegal, M r . Conolly, was car r y in g on a conversa t ion in a tone so loud as to prevent proper attention being paid to the mem ber addressing the house.] f It was right that the house should be reminded of the unctions of the Surveyor of the Navy, and he found that the report of a very in fluential committee, which sat in 184 8, referred to them, and stated that the proper applica tion of the sums voted by Parliament for the navy department depended greatly 011 the superintendence of the Surveyor of the Navy, and that to hi m was committed the whole c ontrol of the dock - yards, he being required to decide upon the amount of work and number of artificers required. Such being the duty of the Surveyor of the Navy, of course, great in proportion. When the right hon. his responsibility was, gen baronet the member head of for Portsmouth assumed the the Admiralty Board, a change was suggested by Sir B. Walker, which con ven i ence had rendered absolutely neces sary, and which was subsequently Lord of the Admiralty. Th e ch ado p ted by the Mist ange was. this,—that the reports of the superintendentsfi sh a z t lt be 'sent drect to the Surveyor, instead of being make twhheat wasdmira ca l l t l y ed , and s that the Surveyor should then it submission" on them. 'N carry out Undoubtedly, object the cir cular of September; 1849, was issued.but T lo w nbtedly, that was not blithetecnilly a board minute, approved y First Lord of the AdmiraltytTXZelniliute' sion with the members of the board,—wa„ by the secretary, issued to the dockyards, s ai d aa'equ upon gned from September, 1849, until April, 1852. (Hear, It appeared from the evidence given before the committee of 1848, that the circular of 1847 (which was subsequently carried out more effectually and stringently by the cicular of 1849), had answered, as far as any regulation of the sort possibly could, the object intended. The men in the Royal yards, were, in truth, as the circular of 1847 pointed out, in a very disadvantageous position as compared with work men in private yards. Before 1847, as the circular stated, political influence affected the promotions of the workmen apart from their merit, and the object of the circular of that year was to change the system, and to supply those pecuniary rewards which were given in private yards, and which obtained for private yards a decided advantage over the Royal yards. Among the officer who had given the most decided testimony to the entire success of that ex periment were Captain Milne, Captain Richards, Admiral Sir T. Herbert, Admiral Parker, Commodore Seymour, and Commodore Eden, and even the Duke of Nor thumberland would be found to have been strongly in favour of consulting with the Surveyor of the Navy with regard to dockyard appointments. (Hear, hear.) Indeed, every officer called before the committee who had anything to do with the working of the circular bore the most unqualified testimony to its success. Among the wit• nesses who gave evidence before the committee on this subject there was, however, one very characteristic excep tion, an electioneering agent—(" hear, hear," and laughter) —according to whom, not only had the circular had been insufficient to effect the object with which it was issued, but political influence had been more rife—or certainly as rife—in the borough of Devonport since 1847 as ever it was before. That witness complained that scarcely any but Whigs were promoted—(a laugh)—and he mentioned that oat of 36 promotions only two of the parties promoted were Conservatives. Now, the house must recollect that dockyard promotions took place under the direct super vision of the Commodore Superintendent, Commodore Seymour, a gentleman whom the electioneering agent to whom he had referred, Mr. Beer, considered to be a Con servative. It was most honourable to Commodore Sey mour that no one had ever been able to discover, from the exercise of his authority in the dockyard, what his political opinions were. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Beer charged the Admiralty administration of the right hon. member for Portsmouth (Sir F. Baring) with every species of political corruption that could exist in the dockyards. Mr. Beer said that that administration had created superannuations wantonly and needlessly, for the purpose of making the appointments consequent upon those superannuation. Mr. Beer, however, charged against them not only that they created superannuations needlessly for the purpose of p m l e e y n mw weree h n o t were mwehn a. oughteto , mentionedb while e increasing their patronage, but that they actually super er igs em wh . O se lar ry a in nn full uat e e m d retainedhcase superannuated, because they of two men brought up for superannuation, one of whom w th were as e Conservatives, named over ey years 'a an nedf d the Axfage h Axford r o d t Hw e e r auseya Axford hvaeryda ; both of t lwuys voted them active partisan for of the Whig side. Honey was told that he was too old, and must be superannuated, and Axford was kept, though he was 7 years older, and, as Mr. Beer was told, the inferior workman of the two. Mr. Beer was asked whether the superintendent of the yard did not attend the exami nation of the men named for superannuation, and his answer was, "I do not know." He (Mr. Keating) was informed that these examinations took place in the pre sence of the superintendent, of two surgeons, and of other officers ; and Mr. Beer was therefore, in effect, charging these gentlemen with a conspiracy for the pur pose of superannuating one man and retaining another of more advanced age and less ability in the public service. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Beer mentioned also the case of two persons named Oram and Burt. Burt was represented to be a Conservative, and Oram a Whig. Burt, who had previously voted with the Whigs at the last election, voted for the Conservative candidates, but flattered himself that his vote was not known to the master shipwright, to whom he applied for an appointment at Portsmouth to learn the planing-machine. Burt said the master shipwright had promised him the appointment, but Mr. Beer told him that Oram had been selected, and Mr. Beer evidently wished the committee to believe that Oram had been appointed upon the discovery by the master shipwright that Burt had voted for the Conservative can didates. It happened, however, that Commodore Seymour instituted an inquiry on the subject; he had the two men before him ; and he came to the conclusion that the ap pointment had never been promised to Burt, and that Oram had been appointed in consequence of his merit, which was unquestionably superior to that of his compe titor. (Hear.) The circular of 1847 was issued for the purpose of placing the Royal dockyards as nearly as possi ble upon an equality with private yards, and what was the consequence ; Why, from 184647 as compared with 1851-52 there was a saving of 139,0001. in the annual ex penditure for wages—(cheers)—the number of men em ployed was reduced from between 12,000 and 113,000 to between 9,000 and 10,000—(hear, hear) —and as large an amount of work was obtained from the lesser as had been performed by the greater number. (Hear, hear.) He thought, therefore, it would be extremely difficult for any member on the opposition side to contend that the circu lars of 1847 and 1849 had not effected the object for which they were issued. They had, indeed, the evidence of the Duke of Northumberland and of the late Secretary of the Admiralty in favour of the circular of 1847; and the late Secretary to the Admiralty excused the cancelling of the circular of 1849 on the ground that it would lead to a return to the system of 1847. On the 2d or 3d of March last year the Administration of Lord Derby came into office, and on the 31st of March Mr. Grant, a clerk of the Admiralty, and private secretary to the late Secretary to the Admiralty, found himself at Somerset-house, and, being there he went to Sir B. Walker and requested that he (Sir B. Walker) would not submit the names of persons to be promoted into the vacancies for foremen and inspec tors of shipwrights in Devonport Dockyard, as Mr. Staf ford's political friends were dissatisfied, and he wished to promote some of their party. Sir B. Walker replied that he had been upwards of four years in the department ; that he had never allowed political motives to influence his submissions to the board ; and he was not going to commence jobbing for him or anybody else. (Hear, hear.) Eden, a clerk in the Surveyor's department, entered the room during this interview, and stated that he heard the reply made by Sir B. Walker. Now, if this was regarded as a mere question of accuracy between Mr. Grant and the Surveyor of the Navy, he (Mr. Keating) thought there could be no doubt on which side the weight of evidence lay. The late Secretary to the Admiralty had stated before the committee that he had not sent Mr. Grant to make this communication to the Surveyor of the Navy, and that statement was confirmed by Mr. Grant. He (Mr. Keat ing) had no doubt that Mr. Grant had not been sent on this mission but it was wholly inconceivable that a clerk in the Admiralty should go to the Surveyor of the Navy and make a proposition of this sort if he had not ascer tained, iu some shape or way, that the proposition would not be unpalatable to some of the higher authorities at the Admiralty. (Cheers.) [Mr. Keating then read the letter addressed to Mr. Stafford to Sir B. Walker, stating that great dissatisfaction existed among his political friends as to the present arrangement of appointments and promo tions in the dockyards, and the answer of Sir Baldwin, which were published in the report of the recent debates on this subject.] Now, subsequently the late Secretary to the Admiralty took credit to himself for having asked Sir B. Walker for his opinion on this matter, and certainly the opinion of Sir B. Walker was expressed. in the most distinct terms, about which there could be no mistake. It a ppeared, however, that that opinion was asked rather as a compliment than with any intention of acting upon it. Sir B. Walker afterwards waited upon the Secretary to the Admiralty, and a discussion took place between them as to the tendered resignation of Sir B. Walker. It was clear that the Surveyor of the Navy had no patronage, properly so called ; his function was merely to forward the names sent to him by the superintendent, and to express his opinion upon the recommendations. It was impossible to conceive how the object of getting rid of political in fluence in the dockyards could be attained by the cancel lation of the circular of 1849. Sir B. Walker on the sth of April had an interview with the Secretary of the Ad miralty, and repeated in very strong terms what he had stated in his letter. A warm discussion took place between them, and Sir B. Walker stated that the Secre tary of the Admiralty said to him there was no blinking the question, for he was so placed by Lord Derby and the Chancellor of the Exchequer he could not help himself, but must have recourse to some change in the system of promotion. The Secretary of the Admiralty, however, did not agree with Sir B. Walker, but he said that—as nearly as ho recollected--the words he used that the Government of Lord Derby and the Chancellor of the Exchequer would not allow all promotions to be in the hands of their political opponents any more than any other Government. The hon. gentleman attributed to himself phrases he could hardly have used, but it really signified little whether the statement of Sir B. Walker or of the Secretary of the Admiralty was correct, because, as the report said, all that was important in the matter was that the names of these two distinguished personages were used in a discussion in which the Secretary of the Admiralty endeavoured to constrain the Surveyor of the Navy to con sent to an alteration of the system of promotion. The opinion of Sir B. Walker on the point of promotion ought to have great weight with the hon. gentleman, and the hon. gentleman asked him his opinion, and not only re ceived his opinion, but also his most positive assurance, that the change would affect his control over the dock yards and consequently their efficiency. Certain persons whom the hon. gentleman consulted, and who know much more about the details than the hon. gentleman could have done, said the cancellation of the circular would not effect the object the hon. gentleman supposed ; but there was one object that cancellation could effect, and what was it? It gave the control to the Surveyor of the Navy with re ference to all the dockyards, so that he alone could judge what vacancies should be filled. The superintendents were limited to their particular dockyards, but the Sur veyor of the Navy was the person who presided over all the dockyards. At the time the late Administration came into office there were between 200 and 300 vacancies kept principally for the apprentices that were coming out of tbeir time, and the greater part of these vacancies the Secretary was enabled to fill up without the control of the Surveyor. The consequence was that shortly afterwards, when 160 apprentices were out of their time, there were only 34 vacancies left to give them. This was an illustra tion of the mischief which was occasioned by the cancelling of the circular. The hon. gentleman was perfectly correct in stating that before cancelling the circular he had con sulted the First Lord of the Admiralty - but it appeared fronithe evidence of the Frst Lord that, a'lthough cognizant of the step, he gave no directions respecting it, and that he acquiesced in it only when he thought the power of issuing the circular belonged to the secretary. He (Mr. Keating) had no hesitation in saying that if the question had been the suspension of the functions of the meanest clerk or lowest porter in the Admiralty, it would have been un justifiable to accede to it without surer information and better grounds than those which appeared to have formed the foundation for cancelling this important circu lar. (Hear, hear.) It was true that the Board of Admi ralty, by their minute of the 26th of April, recognised the cancelling of the circular. To that extent, therefore, it might be said that the hon. gentleman was supported by the board. The hon. member then proceeded, amid loud man appointment l and conti nue d cr i es of " Divide !" and other interrupt i ons, leading referdin ga t t he meta to the mills,of c Ridgeway,hatham to b e , ase second d a - c c t l in as g s first-class man, n o t on l y without the recommendation of the superintendent (Captain Richards), but in the face of his report that he was unfit for the appointment. This was a distinct violation of the circular of 1847. (Hear, hear.) There were 10 cases at that port in which the cir cular of 1847 was distinctly violated. At Devonport there were 12 cases of the same kind. At Deptford there were also several instances, in one of which a person who had been previously discharged for drunkenness was, by the order of the Admiralty, directed to be promoted, against the direction of the superintendent. At Woolwich the number of cases was eight, although they differed from the cases to which he had alluded in the other dockyards so far that the letter of the c ircular of 1847 was not violated. I n every one of these cases the circular in question had been purposes. (Cheers.) The hon. violated for political h d d the Admiralty a imse sa e gen tleman the Secretary for Keating) took the liberty that in most of the cases—he (Mr. from the • in which he had differed of saying all—in of his political super intendent, he had acted under the pressure friends. "Chair" and great confu- Mr. BOOKER, amid cries of entleman Sion, rose t o or d er . When the hon. and learned g _ broadly stated that individuals of blemished cha racter had been promoted merely for the sake of political purposes— (order, or d er )— an d when he stated--(loud and continued . THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 6, 1853, cries of order, during which the hon. gentleman resumed his seat amid great laughter.) Mr. SEATING resumed.—The words of the committee's report were these : " There can be little doubt that these results have attended the appointments adverted to by witnesses well qualified to give an impartial opinion on this subject. Officers of high character in the navy, distinguished alike for professional abilities and unblemished honour, observed the course of pro motion in the dockyards during the last summer with appre hension, with feelings of humiliation, with dismay, and even with disgust." - - -- - That statement was amply borne out by the letters of Com modore Seymour, Admiral Parker, and Captain Richards, which had been put in evidence. It had been proved also that the hon. gentleman the Secretary to the Admiralty stood at the ticket-office at Devonport, with the Govern ment candidates for that borough, as the workmen came out of the yard ' • that he entertained the politi ca l f r i en d s of the candidates there, the expenses of his trip and of the dinner being charged to the contingencies fund. (Hear.) It could not be doubted that such proceedings tended to impair the efficiency of the service, and to bring discredit upon the Government. However they might be regarded by hon. gentlemen opposite, these matters were viewed very seriously throughout the country at large, and he be lieved they were calculated not alone to damage this or that party, but to bring the entire Government of this country into discredit. (Cheers.) Under these circum stances, he called upon the house to confirm the resolution of which he had given notice. (Cheers and counter cheers.) On the question being put by the SPEAKER, Sir J. PAKINGTON rose to move the adjournment of this debate, and he did so because the extraordinary course which the hon. and learned gentleman had thought it fitting and becoming t o t a k e —(ceers and counter-cheers) —had precluded the possibility of any fair discussion of the motion, or any fair reply to the charges which he had advanced. He could not congratulate the hon. and learned gentleman on the course he had taken. Perhaps the hon. and learned gentleman might be learned in the law, but it was clear that he had a very limited sense of justice—(loud cheers), and not even his short experience in that house could for a moment excuse the most unjust course which he had adopted- (oh ! and cheers), as to the gross impro priety of which he (Sir J. Pakington) believed that almost, and he had hoped he might say quite, every man in that house must have concurred. The hon. and learned gen tleman had, at one time when he was interrupted, spoken of the importance of the subject. Very true, it was important. But the more important the subject, the more vital was 'that admission to the decorum of the course which he had taken. (Hear.) The hon. and learned gentleman had had short experience in this house, but he had had long experience in courts of justice, and there he must have learned, and he ought to know, that the more important the subject the more imperative was the necessity that that subject should be adequately, fairly, and justly discussed. (Cheers.) Yet the hon. and learned gentleman made a speech, two hours in length, criminat ing hon. members—(cheers)- and bringing heavy charges against an Administration, knowing at that very moment that it was physically impossible that any answer could be made to the accusations he was bringing forward. (Cheers.) He (Sir J. Pakingtou) for one, he believed among many others, had been prepared to discuss the question with the hon. and learned gentleman. He came forward to beg the Government for a day, and did not shrink from the dis cussion of this question. He was prepared to say, and he said now, that had he been permitted to do so, he came down fully prepared to discuss it, and to contend that the administration of the Board of Admiralty under Lord Derby's Government was entitled to the gratitude, and not to the—(the remainder of the sentence was inaudi ble amidst the cries of "Oh, oh 1" and counter cheers.) and would have contended for, if a course had not This was what he had been prepared to contend for, been taken which he held to be a greater departure b i f n r o t m h i justice e. than Ha d any h h e e e r n e mm favoured e b e r ed w t i o t have h an 0 pp e o e r n t u t a n i k t e y n , it would have been his duty to have taken grave exception was quite lord t of eaware gr th eat at t to ha t t he so re m po mi rt ue o e f t w h a e s co pr m es m id it e t d ee a . Hverhey a noble , committee consisted of gentlemen whose honour and char acterhas the last man to question ; but he did think ability and long experience in this house, and that that p o o r f t which which was was open to very grave intoth e tone nr report thattheatwcommitteeexhcaedptbiaeuen alenda most which we would have endeavoured to show, had he bitter and most severe-la tone of bitterness and se verityhad the o pportunity he desired, was not borne out by the evidence. (Cheers.) He believed he could have shown that while the committee gave no opinions, they had indulged in sarcasms and insinuations far more severe, and far more difficult to grapple with, than the expression of any direct opinions ; and he was sorry to say that, in his judgment, that report, however unconsciously on the part of the committee, was open to the grave exception of being char acterised rather by party prejudice and party bias than by that judicial impartiality which ought to have been its first and its chief characteristic. (Loud cheers.) He should not endeavour to follow the hon. and learned gentle man through his " beer" and " honey"—(laughter)--be cause it was impossible so to follow him ; but he should have commented, if he had had time, on the manner in which that report referred to the hon. member for Northampton (Mr. Stafford), and he thought he could have shown to the satisfaction of this house, and, what was of more importance, to the satisfaction of the public, that the hon. member for Northampton was most partially dealt with in that report. With regard to the Duke of Northumberland, the First Lord of the Admiralty, he was free to say that never was there a human being more anxious fer the honour of the noble service to which he belonged, and for the good of the country, than was the noble duke in the course of his adminstration. (Cheers.) They were told of the manner in which these dockyard appointments were carried out, and it was said that the Duke of Northumber land abandoned the whole of his civil patronage to the secretary. Now, it was no such thing. It ought to be known that all these minor appointments had been, during the administration of previous First Lords, always in the hands of the secretary, and had never been dispensed by the First Lord. He should have been able to show that, even with regard to these minor appointments, the Duke of Northumberland had been influenced by the most laud able anxiety that they should be carried out in the man ner most conducive to the benefit of the service and of the country at large. (Cheers.) One expression of this re port, in which the Duke of Northumberland was referred to, he considered most harsh and most unjust. The com mittee said : " One officer, of high standing in the navy, and supreme at the Admiralty, had power to check these proceedings ; an appeal was more than once made to him ; he intimated his disapproval, but he declined to interfere. His rank and sta tion in the country, his position in the Government, his con nexion with the gallant service of the navy, were deemed to be securities for the administration of a department confided to the Duke of Northumberland." He would ask the right hon. gentleman now presiding over the Admiralty, whether, in his opinion, the administration of that great department really turned upon the appoint ment of joiners and caulkers, and oakum boys? Were there no graver matters ? How did the Duke of Northumber land administer that patronage which was really his ? What were his instructions to Admiral Fanshawe ? Did that show party feeling ? Did that show political bias? Then as to the construction of the committee appointed by him for the manning of the navy. Did those appointments take place from party motives ? The chairman, Admiral Parker, was one of the most distinguished officers in the navy, and had been at the Board of Admiralty under the Whig Government. Three of the members were entirely opposed in politics to the Duke of Northumberland, one of them was of his own politics, and the fifth of no politics at all. His appointments to the command of vessels had been distinguished by the like impartiality ; and for the two measures standing on the notice paper for this evening in the name of the right hon. baronet (Sir J. Graham), with regard to the manning of the navy, the country would be indebted to the steps taken by the noble duke when First Lord of the Admiralty. Never were greater services rendered to the navy then when the board was presided over by the Duke of Northumberland. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. baronet opposite, much to his credit, was now about to carry out the report of the committee which the duke had appointed and instructed. Had time allowed ho would have adverted to the state of our fisheries on the coast of North America, in which the Government and the Crown had derived effectual assistance from the efficient administration of the duke ; but his object was to show the impossibility of analysing the evidence, which the hon. and learned gentleman had attempted to do, at such a period of the morning. As far as he was concerned, he could only protest against the injustice of the course now taken, and repeat his opinion that if time were given it could be shown to the satisfaction of the house and of the country that the department over which the Duke of Nor thumberland had presided was entitled to their gratitude rather than their censure. (Hear, hear.) Mr. DISRAELI said, that as far as he understood, there was every prospect of the debate being renewed, and he thought nothing could be more unjust or unfair than to allow that motion to be made without any decision on it, and he trusted his right hon. friend would not persevere in his motion for the adjournment, but would ask the house for an immediate vote on the question. (Cheers from the Opposition.) They appealed under great disadvantages, the accusations having been heard without a reply, but that was a course they had a right to expect. He had only one observation to make with regard to the Duke of Northumberland. The duke had been inferentially charged with a number of very paltry accusations on that and on another occasion. All he could say was, that he believed there never was an instance in which more energy, more ability, and more devotion was brought to bear on the administration of a great office than in the case of the Duke of Northumberland. (Opposition cheers.) Let him remind the house that that nobleman was only 10 months in office, that he was hardly absent from a single board, and that in the space of these 10 months he protected their colonies, defended their coasts, and manned their navy— (hear, hear) ;—and let him remind them, also, that those great operations had been conceived and mainly conducted by the duke himself, and that with his own hand he wrote the instructions to the committee for manning the navy which had been laid on their table, and read with approbation by every member of that house. A man actuated by such a high sense of duty, and capable of per forming such deeds, could not be crushed by any factious oppos • ition (Loud Opposition cheering.) He trusted his right hon. friend would withdraw his amendment, and would ask the house to vote at once their decision on this great question. (Cheers, and cries for a division.) Lord SEYMOUR (amid some expressions of impatience) observed that the right hon. baronet had begun by telling the house of his great love for justice, but had proceeded to attack the report of the committee, which had been agreed to unanimously by the members who were on both sides of the house, though he had not brought forward the exact points on which he wished to condemn it. If they were not to adjourn the debate, how was the right hon. baronet to prove his case, and show the report was un just and unfair. He objected to the words of the report with respect to the Duke of Northumberland and the civil patronage of the navy ; but, was it wrong to quote the words of a witness when giving their opinion as to his evidence ? Was that the way the right hon. baronet proved the report was unjust? He watched to see if the right hon. baronet referred to the evidence to show that the report was contradictory to it, but not one instance had he been able to bring forward. When he (Lord Seymour) brought the report to the committee, he entreated them to look to this point - -that in every word of it they were borne out by the evidence. Whether they agreed or not as to quoting the words of the evidence, the first thing he told them they had to look to was to see there was not a word used which the evidence did not prove —and in that he had the consent of all the commitee, and it was carried ou t i n th e i r report, which was, he thought, fair—(oh, oh, from the Opposition)—and which he was prepared to prove, not overstated. (Renewed groaning.) The debate ought to be adjourned, in order to enable the house to go fairly into the question, and he would there fore vote for the motion. The question was then put. Some hon. members cried "Aye," and others "No." A short pause ensued, and finally the gallery was cleared in pursuance of shouts of " Withdraw," principally from the Opposition side of the house. For adjourning the debate • 79 Against it 95 Majority, On our return to the gallery, we found Sir T. D. ACLAND on his legs, who, observing that " least said soonest mended," moved that the house should adjourn. Mr. LABOUCHERE believed that an adjournment at that moment would be most prejudicial to the interests of he country, and not creditable to the house. Charges of a grave character had been made against the late Board of Admiralty, which. as it appeared to him, it behoved gentle men opposite to answer, and against the committee that had sat upon the subject, which were, he believed, most undeserved. (Cries of " Question !" and " Divide !") He was anxious, however, that the question should not be stifled, and ho thought it would be undesirable, after what had occurred, to get rid of it by adjournment. Sir B. HALL denied that the committee which had in vestigated this subject had been actuated by any party motives. The committee represented gentlemen of every shade of political opinion, and yet their report had been unanimous. He was prepared to defend their report in every particular, and he objected to the question being shelved by the adoption of the motion of the hon. baronet. Lord PALMERSTON thought that there were two points, at least, on which there could be no difference of opinion. One was, that after the course which the debate had taken, there must be very considerable discussion on the subject, and the other was that it was impossible that that discussion could take place then (two o'clock in the morning). He therefore thought that the house would do well to adjourn the debate. (Cries of "Divide !") An appeal had been made to the Government to give a day for the discussion, but it was impossible, owing to the pressure of public business, that that could be done. On Tuesday next, however, the motion of chief interest appeared to be that of the hon. member for Cambridgeshire, upon a question certainly of not very pressing importance—the malt duty. (Oh!) He would therefore suggest that the hon. baronet who had proposed the adjournment should arrange with his hon. friend to give up Tuesday next to this debate. Mr. DISRAELI could understand that the course of the debate had not been so satisfactory as had been expected by hon. gentlemen opposite. There was great complaint now that the statements made must be answered, but there had been no such complaint on the other side when a state ment was made past midnight—(hear)--by the hon. mem ber for Reading, with the moral conviction upon the part of the hon. gentleman that no answer could be given to him at that hour, that his manifesto of spitefulness would remain unanswered, and that not a single member of the late Government would have the opportunity of replying to him. (Hear, hear.) For himself he should not coun tenance any attempt to evade the discussion of the main question ; and if hon. gentlemen opposite pleased to sneak out of the position in which they had placed themselves, he could only say that upon his side he challenged a deci sion upon the resolution which they had proposed. Sir J. V. SHELLEY, amid cries of "oh!" and "divide !" said it was unfair to say that he or his friends were desirous to " sneak out" of the question; but it struck him as most extraordinary that the right hon. member for Droitwich should first move the adjournment of the debate, with the view, as he said, of fully discussing the question, and then should vote against it. Mr. BALL declined complying with the request of the noble lord to postpone his motion on Tuesday next. He considered it by no means an unimportant motion. ---- The house divided on the motion for an adjournment, when the motion was negatived unanimously, the numbers being— For the adjournment 0 Against it Mr. J. PHILLIMORE then moved the adjournment of the debate. The house divided— For the adjournment 7O Against it 9B Majority 28 Mr. DRUMMOND moved an amendment to the original resolution, to the effect, that, referring to the select com mittee, it appeared that during the administration of every Board of Admiralty its patronage and influence had been used and exercised for political purposes—(cheers)—and that the report of the Chatham Election Committee stated that there was no instance of an election in that place not terminating in favour of the Government candidate. (Opposition cheers.) After a few words from Mr. OSBORNE, Lord D. STUART again moved that the debate be ad journed. Lord PALKERSTON expressed his regret that this e q h u a r e s a t i c o t e n r had and been dignity brought ity of forwa rd at e required all, divi sion on the question should take place at that hour and under present circumstances. He therefore hoped gentle men opposite would allow the debate to be adjourned and taken up next Tuesday. (No, no.) It was quite clear that a division that night would not conclude the debate. Sir J. PAtINGTON—Then let a division take place, and let those who wish to resume the debate afterwards do so. (Hear, bear.) After a few words from Mr. E. BALL and Mr. PIGOTT, Mr. HILDYARD said, the motion was brought on at a late hour, when it could not be decorously and properly discussed ; and, although the hon. mover was urged not to persist in bringing it on at so late an hour, he persevered in doing so, and therefore it was right the house should now dispose of the matter. (Hear, hear.) The house divided, when the numbers appeared For the adjournment of the debate 64 , Against it Majority 34 - Mr. PIGOTT still urged the adjournment of the debate, and After some words from Sir W. JOLLIFFE, Mr. C. BERKELEY moved as an amendment that the other orders of the day be read. Mr. BANKES said that the amendment could not be put, as there was an amendment already before the house —that of the hon. member for Surrey. (Hear, hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said, if hon. gentlemen opposite agreed to adjourn the debate—(No, no) —he had no doubt that the noble lord, the leader of the house, would endea vour to fix a day for its resumption. (No !no !) Mr. DISRAELI had now no objection to accede to a motion for the adjournment of the house, and should re gard the carrying of that question as a virtual defeat of the original motion. (Cheers.) Mr. H. KEATING contended that the late hour on which the question was brought forward was produced by the hon. members on the other side, who spoke against time on the factory proposition. (Ministerial cheers.) Lord J. MANNERS denied the accuracy of that state ment—(Opposition cheers)—but, at all events, he thought a question affecting the interests of a large number of the working classes entitled to a full discussion. (Hear.) Mr. HILDYARD moved that the house do adjourn. The house then divided : For Vie adjournment lOO Against it 59 Majority The house then adjourned, at 20 minutes to 4 o'clock. FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE of YESTERDAY. FOREIGN-OFFICE, Jut 2. The Queen has been pleased to approve of Mr. James M. Tarleton as Consul at Melbourne for the United States of America. ADMIRALTY, JUNE 30. Corps of Royal Marines— Gentleman Cadet Charles James Dundas Napier to be Second Lieutenant. Gentleman Cadet Wingrove Laugharne Tinmouth to be Second Lieutenant. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. E. Andrews and Co., Ditchampton, grocers—G. and T. Leach, Salisbury and Amesbury, grocers—A. B. Lambe and J. G. Elgood, New Bond-street, wine merchants—C. and R. Wassail, Kingswinford, stone potters—Blake and Co., Enfield and Ware, common brewers—Cooper, Brothers, Longendale and Manchester, tallow chandlers ; as far as regards J. Cooper—W. E. Dutton and F. W. Watkinson, Chesterfield, mercers—The Strines Printing Company, Derby and Manchester; as far as regards J. Appleby— Cheetham, Turner, and Co. Glossop, Derbyshire, common brewers—Parry and Son, Deptford, pawnbrokers—J. and H. Anstey, Coventry, drapers--G. J. Squibb and W. F. Wratislaw, Orchard-street, Portman-square, surgeons— Mansell, Horne, and Co., Bucklersbury, teade;lers—Course and Gugden, St. John-street, Clerkenwell, drysalters— Mellor, Son, and Jepson, Manchester, timber merchants ; so far as regards J. Mellor, senior—Rigby, Mercer, and Co., Liverpool, timber merchants—Hemmings and Foster, stonemasons Longbottom and Hill, New Leeds, near Bradford, and elsewhere, joiners—Tay lor, Son, and Ward, Coventry. watch manufac turers—W. Harriman and W. Walker, Bladon, Dur ham, fire-brick manufacturers—Goode and Boland, Birmingham, and elsewhere, jewellers—P. Walther and Co., Angel-court, Throgmorton-street, merchants—C. Mil ner and Co., St. Mary-at-Hill, tobacco manufacturers— O'Connor and. Co., Lisson-grove, North, tobacconists— Reade and Grove, Tooley-street, merchants—Robinson and Halstead, Bury, Lancashire, ironfounders—H. and J. For shaw, Liverpool and Southport, attorneys—W. and G. S. Berry, Old Bailey, plate-case makers—Swanwick and Charlton, Enfield, schoolmistresses—A. Honnis, C. P. Hutchings, and A. Harvey, Hastings, staymakers—Flint and Wickes, Leicester, architects—Blacklidge and Holmes, Liverpool, boiler makers—Lane and Perry, Birmingham, stockbrokers—W. Borradaile and F. Dimsdale, King's Arms-yard, attorneys—S. Phillips, F. Dyken, and F. H. Phillips, New Broad-street, timber merchants • as far as regards S. Phillips—H. Ryding and Son, Hyde:Cheshire, joiners—Dagnall and Co., Liverpool, comb manufacturers. DECLARATIONS OF DIVIDENDS. P. Temple, Brisley, Norfolk, grocer—first div. of 6s. Bd., any Monday, at Mr. Cannan's, Aldermanbury. N. Pearce, Silver-street, stationer—first div. of is. id., on Thursday, July 7, and three following Thursdays, at Mr. Stansfeld's, Basinghall-streot. E. - Whitmore, J. Wells, J. Wells, jun., and F. Whit, more, Lombard-street, bankers—ninth div. of sid., on Thursday, July 7, and three following Thursdays, at Mr. Stansfeld's Basinghall-street. J. Dawson, Northfleet, Mitre-court-chambers, Temple, and Clement's-lane, Lombard-street, shipowner—second div. of id., on Thursday, July 7, and three following Thursdays, at Mr. Stansfeld's, Basinghall-street. G. Kebble, Hurst, Berkshire, farmer—first div. of 2s. 6d., on Thursday, July 7, and three following Thursdays, at Mr. Stansfeld's, Basinghall-street. W. Wymark, Mistley, Essex, wharfinger—first div. of 35., on Thursday, July 7, and three following Thursdays, at Mr. Stansfeld's, Basinghall-street. J. Wheeler, Scarborough, wine merchant—first div. of 25., and day except Saturday, at Mr. Young's, Leeds. H. Warren and Co*, Brotherton, glass manufacturers— first div. of 6d., any day except Saturday, at Mr. Young's, Leeds. J. Mitchell, Horton, worsted spinner —first div. of 13s. 6d., on the separate estate, any day except Saturday, at Mr. Young's, Leeds. J. M'Clrnt:ock, Barnsley, linen manufacturer—first div. of is., any day except Saturday, at Mr. Young's, Leeds. DIVIDENDS. July 26, G. Phibbs, Blenheim-street, Bond-street, wine merchant—July 29, J. Cairns, Newport, Monmouth, banker -July 28, J. Waddington, jun., Wigan, draper — July 28, C. Lucas, R. Wilkinson, and E. Bond, Man chester and Hayfield, calico printers. CERTIFICATES GRANTED. July 27, E. Pistrucci, Salisbury-street, Strand, litho graphic artist—July 27, E. Hunt, King William-street, Nicholas-lane, Lombard-street, and elsewhere, auctioneer —July 27, C. D. Cray, Southampton, grocer—July 26, R. Chinery, Withersfield, Suffolk, brewer—July 28, J. Waddington, jun., Wigan, draper—July 26, W. Ailing stall, Pendleton, joiner. • yburtt /Zbition SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock. WORCESTER RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.) RAILWAY HANDICAP. Warwick May Day 2 Two ran. CARLISLE RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIO TELEGRAPH.) SPECULATION PLTE. Solyman Mrs. Dodds Eight ran. CUMBERLAND PLATE. Haricot Lough Bawn Two ran. THE UNITED STATES. (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH.) (FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.) LIVERPOOL, WEDNESDAY. The United States mail steam-ship Arctic, Cap tain Luce, from New York direct, arrived in the Mersey this morning. Besides the usual mails from the United States and British possessions up to the time of sailing on the 25th ult., the Arctic has brought 215 passen gers and $140,000 in specie on freight. By this arrival we are in receipt of intelligence from California to June 1, by which we learn that the production of gold still continued to a large extent, gold dust to the value of $500,000 having already arrived at New York, and advises having been received there that an enormous quantity, estimated at 2i millions dollars in value, had been expedited from San Francisco for New York. The mining prospects of California were reported to be generally satisfactory, though the previous complaints that the markets were overstocked were still continued. COMMERCIAL. Business at New York was reported to be gene rally dull at the Arctic's departure, and money was obtainable on even easier terms than men tioned in the last advices. In the Stock Market also considerable dulness continued to exist. The report of the condition of the market for breadstuffs was more satisfactory, greater activity existing, and prices consequently showing a dis position to improve. The unfavourable condition of the Cotton Mar ket, stated to exist at the departure of the last steamer, was reported as still continuing at New York when the Arctic left. In the Provision Market no improvement in business was reported to have taken place, but few transactions having been effected since our last advices. In freight there was no change to report. Foreign exchanges were in moderate demand, but firm. Bills on London, 1091. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS-(THIS DAY.) The SPNAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. The Lords' amendments to Gorbals Gravitation Bill were considered and agreed to. PETITIONS. Mr. DUNLOP presented a petition from the work ing men of Glasgow against the Registration of As surances Bill. _ _ DROPPED ORDERS. The dropped orders were reappointed. EXPENSES OF ELECTIONS' BILL. On the motion of going into committee on this bill, Colonel SIBTHORP said he made it a point of always opposing bills of this nature. It was a bill of pains and penalties against the electors, and he could not better characterise its spirit than to stigmatise it as a mean, shabby, disgraceful affair, from beginning to end. It was alike a degradation to the candidate and electors, and he would not permit it to proceed without protest ; only consider that the law was so rigidly en forced that the candidate could not give his supporters, who might have walked miles, either a glass of brandy and water or a change of linen. (A laugh.) All that the candidate could do, if the bill passed, was to thank his friends for the expense and trouble they had been put to, but "fine words buttered no parsnips," and thanks would be an empty return to the man who had expended his money and his labour to promote the re turn of the man whose principles he admired. (A. laugh.) Pshaw ! this was a paltry bill ; it was to put down music at elections, and, if it passed, he supposed the gingling of the town crier's bell, or the noise of the child's penny whistle, would be viewed in the light of bribery and corruption. (A laugh.) The man who had the means was bound to entertain his supporters, and keep up that feeling of good old English fellowship which always characterised the proceedings of our fore athers. He was as much opposed to bribery and corruption as any man, but he believed there was a wide difference between bribery and cor ruption and entertaining a man's friends to some good wholesome cheer. His table was open to all his friends without t3;ng up their votes, and, as he consi dered the bill would prevent him from exercising the hospitalities of an English gentleman, he should move as an amendment that the Speaker do not leave the chair until this day three months. (Roars of laughter.) Mr. BARROW seconded the amendment, beea.ise if this bill passed the enthusiasm of an indiscreet fr:end of a candidate might lead him to exhibit a flag, and thereby endanger the seat of his friend if he was returned. Mr. MULLINGS said there was not a more fruitful source of bribery and corruption than allowing the can didates to have bands and flags at elections. (Hear.) He regretted very much that the objections now urged against the committee were not urged against it on the motion for the; second reading. At his own election he gave notice that he would neither employ flags nor music, but his opponent who was the popular candidate did not follotv his example, and the conse quence was, that for several days the town was kept in a state of uproar. Nor was this all, he was asked to name a numher of persons who were his supporters to be sworn in as special constables, but he refused to do so, as he thought it was the duty of the returning officer to take all the necessary precautions for preserving the the peace of the town. He would pay nothing but the bare legal expenses of the election, and he should sup port this bill in the hope that it would put an,end to the pernicious practice of corrupting voters under the guise of employing them as flag carriers or musicians. Mr. E. DENISON thought the bill was open to considerable objection, on the same ground as those stated by Mr. Barrow, and he should vote against the committal of the bill. Mr. ELLIOT followed on the same side, and said he could not understand why a man should be prevented from enjoying himself at an election with a fiddle or band of music, or that he should be liable to a fine to 10/. if he 'displayed a laurel leaf in a piece of ribbon in his button-hole to show which way his feelings went. Mr. GREEN said there were objections which could be removed in committee. Mr. H. BERKELEY approved of the merit of the bill, and recommended the house to go into committee without any more delay. Mr. MITCHELL complained that the bill did not go far enough, and thought the time had arrived when all emblems of party ought to be prohibited at contested elections, as they only served to provoke wars and rioting. The house then divided, when there appeared— For the amendment Against it Majority against it 79 The house then went into committee. On clause 1, Mr. BARROW moved the omission of words, so as to limit the responsibility of the candidate to acts donet by himself, and not leave him liable for the miscot.idu. of an agent of whose proceedings he had b een q the dark.uite in M r w . o M rd U s After a few words from Mr. HENLE Y and Mr. VERN ON SMITH, the amendment was agreed to. and L ou L t I . N_GS consented to strike the objection able Some other amendments w ere made, the clause was then passed. discussion took place, (in clause 2, relating oaav t gn o erdde b ea e tdh l f l ta s et tora:nhaades divisionb cwl e aa ll us - sr ialsbgoeeurrpse,oi verbal alterations, and a promise by Mr. Mullings that on the bringing up of the report he would endeavour to hen.f urTt members, committeee amend mbers tthhetehcciel then divided , io i d n ne d o w: r a sdwehrpeutnot the mtheanettu therfit b, see numbers clause i w e e w er s e —as of 9 em F a o i r ni t n h g e c c l l a a u u s s e e s '''''' ;he ' ' ' ''''' en also to, and Against it ................ aniC T °n h ici e e T a b u ße s T e Pl la w was d tle m n ............... 17-82 The r the house resumed. PROBATE OF WILLS AND ADMINISTRATION upon some clause es 4mn.. ge BILL. On the motion for going into committee on this bill, Dr. PHILLIMORE appealed to the hon. gentleman the member fer Sheffield (who had charge of the bill) whether, after the statement of the Government last night, he would press till bill at the present. time. Mr. HUME thought this was a reform per se, and he thought there was no occasion fi )r waiting for the Go vernment, especially after the delay which had taken place in introducing the Governn lent measure, for which no adequate reason had yet been g iven. Mr. HADFIELD said the bill had been approved of by most eminent authorities in. the three kingdoms, and he should certainly not relinquish it unless some more satisfactory assurances wore given by the Govern ment that they would take the matter up in earnest. Mr. HENLEY thought if the bill. were carried into law it would lead to the greatee; confusion. Mr. CROSLEY said that as none of the members of the Government were present, he shc.uld move that the con sideration of this bill be adjourned until this day week. The motion was agreed to, and the debate adjourned. SIMONY LAW AMENDMENT BILL. Dr. PHILLIMORE moved the second reading of this bill, the object of which was to p reven t f or th e future, the next presentation to any benefice. Up to the time of the Reformation, the repression of this offence had been left to the censure of the ecclesiastical power, but the earliest acts of some our most pious reformed monarchs had been directed against this offence. The house had al ways dealt with this subject in the largest spirit, conceiv ing always that the spiritual trust was essential, and the rights of property only accidental. At present, ac cording to the canon law, it was simony to sell the liv ing when it was empty ; but if it was sold while the present holder was alive, though he might be on his death-bed, and only have 25 minutes to live, it was a valid contract. (Hear.) The scandal that this practice led to in the church was most prejudicial to its real interests, as every one must acknowledge who read the newspapers in which the advertisements for the sale of livings appeared in such numbers. He had care fully guarded the bill, so as to make it prospective and not retrospective, and he should be perfectly willing to receive any alteration in committee. Mr. BOUVERIE moved the adjournment of the de bate, as there was important business on the paper. Sir R. H. INGLIS thought that the motion for ad journment of the debate ought to have been moved before the speech of the hon. and learned gentleman, Mr. BUTT said this was not so much a Lill for the m endment of the law of simony as to make that simony for the future which was not simony now. The bill interfered with the rights of property in a most unjustifiable manner. He differed from the prin ciple of the bill, and also from the details by which the principle was carried out. He yielded to no: man in his desire to advance the spiritual welfare of the people and the efficiency of the Established Church. The hon. and learned gentleman had taken extreme and exceptional cases for the groundwork of the bill, and instead of pro , viding for these cases only he had dealt with the general system of Church patronage on these exceptional princi ples. Mr. MALINS supported the adjournment. Mr. WILSON hoped the debate would be adjourned before six o'clock, because the Government had some Customs resolutions to pass before the rising of the house. Mr. BANICES said that Wednesday was a day pecu liarly set apart for private members, and he was not disposed to give way to the Government. If they had wished for an adjournment it should have been moved be fore the speech of the hon. and learned gentleman the mem ber for Tavistock (Mr. Phillimore). He intended to speak till six o'clock, and he hoped the lesson would be of use and profit to the Government. (Cries of " Oh.") He was in possession of the house and they could not prevent him. The right hon. gentleman continued to speak until six o'clock, when the house adjourned. STATE OF TRADE. (From the Manchester - Guardian of this day.) MANCHESTER, July s.—The effect of the advices by the overland mail is to confirm the merchants connected with India and China in that policy of inaction which they have latterly adopted. There is, therefore, hardly so much firmness as there was in shirtings for the for , mer quarter, and those adopted for the latter may be had on rather lower terms. In mule yarns for India, how ever, there is no change. The buyers of yarns and goods for the European continent have shown, by their ex treme caution, that they are influenced by the nearer approach of a crisis in Turkish affairs ; and yet the prices of the yarns in which they deal continue very steady. In all classes of yarns, the supply of which is affected by " turn-outs," price is found to be affected also. The greatest effect is seen in pin-cops for domestics and ,other coarse goods ; and in a less degree, in 24's and 28's warps. The diminished production of 14's to 18's pin-cops in Stockport and Manchester, has enabled those who can sell for speedy delivery, to obtain an ad vance of id. per lb. upon the prices that were current prior to the cessation of work at the former place. The makers of domestics and T cloths are now commanding a fair advance. The abandonment of these fabrics in favour of lighter makes, which has been so long pursued by manufacturers, is now telling upon the heavier cloths ; but the rise in these is more than absorbed by the ad vance in the yarn from which they are made ; so that the parties most nearly concerned are actually in a worse position than that which they previously occupied—such of them, at any rate, as do not spin, and they form the greater proportion. ROCHDALE, JULY 4.—The market has been dull and inactive to-day, with little or no change in prices. In wool there has been very little doing ; the manufactur ers keep out of the market, and seem disposed to wait and see the result of the very heavy wool sales adver tised to take place in London this month. HALIFAX, JULY 2.—The attendance in our piece-hall has been very slender to-day, and the transactions in worsted goods, of all sorts, are very limited, both there and in the warehouses, the aspect of affairs in k the East being such as greatly to curtail commercial operations. The same cause produces similar effects in the yarn and wool markets, and the prices of wool are quoted some what lower. BIRMINGHAM, July 4.—A. further reduction of 20s. per ton on all manufactured iron was resolved upon at the preliminary meeting of the trade, held at the Stew pony Inn, near Stourbridge, on Thursday last, and very numerously attended. This result has been matter of surprise to some, as it was scarcely expected without an attempt to diminish the cost of production ; and it is argued that, as would now appear, iron cart be profitably sold at the rates usually realised under a nominal declara tion of 9/. per ton for bars, with colliers' wages at 55. per day, and puddlers and furnace-men advanced from thirty to forty per cent., it may reasonably be asked why have the consuming public been so long gulled? The poor dupes who have latterly been paying their 101. and 11/. per ton have just cause of complaint. The workmen also will not be backward in making a note for their future guidance, and the proprietors of mines will have a better idea of the royalties to be demanded hereafter. The principal reasons adduced for adopting the present step seem to have been the importunate solicitations of customers, the probable competition of the new pro ducing districts, and the impracticability of maintaining for marked bars an excess of 30s or 40s per ton above the quotations of inferior makes. Great complaints have also been latterly made of the over-production of pig iron, and we are informed that an effort was made at the meeting, by the leading pig-makers present, to ar range for a general blowing-out of a certain proportion of their furnaces ; but with the result of their delibera tions we have not yet been made acquainted. The prices of iron as now declared are—bars, 91. ; hoops, 101. ; and sheets, 11/, per ton ; but it is notorious that many, even large makers, had previously been selling at 8/. 55., and pigs had been bought at 3/. ss. Within the last few days a better feeling had, however, been spring ing up, more firmness was exhibited in general. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. TELEMAQUE, OR MARION SHOAL. The following has been received by Captain Halsted; R.N., the secretary, Lloyd's, from the East India H ouse : " The Telemaque Shoal, so long considered doubtful, is reported to have been seen in the forenoon of Jan. 17, 1853 ; a fine clear day, from on board the ship Marion, on her voyage from Greenock to Bombay, and accurately de termined to be in lat. 37 26 S., long 4 26 55 E. It is de scribed as being an oblong, sunken reef, with discoloured shallow-looking water for about 200 yards all round, and the sea always breaking on it. No soundings were taken on board the Marion, as she was under a press of sad, and came suddenly up to the danger, passing about 80 yards to the southward of it." AUSTRALIAN WHALERS• The Woodlark, Aug. 20 , in POrtSvriens, 160 brls. oil. The Star, Nov. 18, 115 brls. oil. The Australia, two months out from July, 70 brls. oil. The Fortune, four months out from June, 200 brls. oil. E_,JITLY 5. 13 CUSTOBI, i , e OTTS Caesar, from arbadoes ; ENTERED INWARDS. -I . " Fama, Berdianski ; Ottawa, Trinidad ; P era , Constanti nople , . oum Hoop, do. ; S ara h Anne, Launceston ; Peat. nople ; Seppe Vesper , ;Q w uebec and Montreal ; Shelbourne, l . Spirito Santo Sa vatore, Girgente Mary Fairley, Callao ; Prince Edvra,rd Island ; Superior, Barbadoes ; Severn, Cochin and Ceylon • Chance, Call ao ; H y d aspes, Mauri tius, Costa Rica, and Punta Arenas ; G enera l R ye, Ib ra il ; Melbourne, Sydney, &c. ENTERED OUTWARDS FOR LOADING. —The Daniel Wheeler, for Portland Bay ; Bernadotte, Copenhagen ; Caesar, Demerara ; Comorn, Stettin ; Countess of Ya r borough, Port Philip; D'Auvergne, Belize and Hondu ras- David, Demerar a ; G eorge Marsden, Elsinore, &c.';c..; p f c ar es, Quebec, &c.; Sophia, Archangel ; Sarah Anne, II" ton ; Rambl er , M auritius ; Protector, Deineraral e; ; Bruges; Tarbet Castle, Melbourne. s Exil CL EARED OUTWARDS WITH CARGO. -- Th o Edith, for, Kurrachee; Elsinore, & c . ; Oceaneda, Stettin; Sala,'"lc-. a Claudona, M arquess ; Pantucci, Copea"g,— LIVERPOOL, JulyPoken, May 24, in The Cord e li a , from Liverpool , was s lat. SN. long. 22 W. The A;rocante H a vannah to Bombay, was spoken, June 1, in lat. 9 N., long. 26 W. York to San .t rancisco, was The Horsburgh, New 00 i, was spoken, Jul 4, off spoken, June 19, in Jong. 37 The Amaranth, of LiverP Tuskar. The Charlotte, London to Hong Kong, Mardi 17, lat. 20 S, long. 21 W. The Earl of Egremont, for Sydney, May 4, 4, lat. 6, long. 24. _ The James, Bahia to Liverpool, June 18, lat. 21 N, long. 41 W. The William Nicholson, from London, June 30, lat. 49 N, long. 13 W. The hlizeh Hughes, of Glasgow, May 19, lat. 5 S., long. .26 W. The Cameron, Cork to California, May 20, lat. 3 S., long. 26 W. The Oliver Cromwell, London to Calcutta, May 25, lat. 3 S., long. 27 W. Tho Susan, Bahia to Falmouth, June 1, lat. 13 N., long. 33 W. The Maria, Bristol to Barbadoes, June 13, lat. 37 N., long. 18 W. The Joven, from London, June 14. Tho Ann and Elizabeth, bound W, June 4, lat. 17 N., long. 53 W. AT steamer with two funnels, bound W, June 26, lat. 49 N., long. 21 S. The Anton, June 29, off Cape Clear. The China, New Orleans t o Li verpoo l , M ay 30, , lat. 31 N, long. 73 'ir. The Augusta, New Orleans to Liverpool, June 8, lat. 37 N, long 67 W ; Prince Albert, Jamaica to London, same day. The Deodata, Philadelphia to Londonderry, June 18, la,t. 44 N, low - . 53 W. The Devon, June 24, lat. 48 N, long OW. The Wallace, of Glasgow, bound W, June 29, lat. 51 N, long. 9 W. The Africa (steamer); Liverpool to New York.; Con queror, bound E. both Juno 26. The Continent and Argyll. The America, July 2. Tho Mary Hall, Columbia to London, June 21. The Martin, Liverpool to Harbour Grace, June 3, lat. 48 N., long. 44 W. The Milford Packet, for Newfoundland, May 11, lath 48 N., long. 31 W. The Republica do Guatemala, English ship, London to Valparaiso, April 24, lat. 24 S., long. 25 W. The Princess Victoria, bound to Buenos Ayres, May 13. The Progres, Bordeaux to Martinique, June 24, lat. 9 N. The Alida Wilh e l m i na, A mster d am to Baltimore, May 4, lat. 5 N., long. 19 W. The America, for Boston, June 28, lat. 55 N, long.l9W. The Mary Green, Southampton to Adelaide, South Aus tralia, April 24, lat. 26 S, long 30 W. The Stag, Calcutta to Mauritius, March 17, lat 10 5, long 85 E. The Calalar, Southampton to Melbourne, May 23, lat 6 N, long 23 W. The Prince Charlie, London to San Francisco, May 26, lat. 7 N, long. 23 W. The Isabella, Lisbon to St. John's, Newfoundland, June 20, lat. 42 N, long. 26 W. _ _ The Munda, for Quebec, June 19, lat. 58 N, long. 22 W. The Elizabeth, from St. John's, New Brunswick, Juno 15, lat. 43 N, long. 50 W. The May, of Yarmouth, N.S., bound S.W., June 25, lat. 45 N, long. 42 W. The George Canning, of Sunderland, bound W, June 26, lat. 47 N, long. N W. _ _ The Nora Creia, June 27, lat. 47 N, long. 31 W. Richard and Ann, Plymouth to Australia, June 15, lat. 40 N, long. 11 W. The Jessie, Dundee, to Table Bay, April 8, lat. 32 S, long. 10 W. The Helena, from California, Feb. 28, lat. 9 N, long. 24 W. The Henrietta Kiasina, Liverpool to Batavia, May 26, lat. 5 N, long. 24 W. The Palembang, London to Sydney, June 17, lat. 40 N, long. 12 W. The Jennet, of Sunderland, Liverpool to Quebec, June 26, lat. 48 N, long. 32 W. Her cargo (coals) had been on fire, but was extinguished, and required no assistance. The Pickwick (barque), for Valparaiso, lat. 45 N, long. 9 W. The Minerva, London to Maranham, Juno 17, lat. 49 N, long. 17 W. COUNTRY MARKET& • LIVERPOOL-JULY 5. There'was a good attendance to-day of town and country dealers, and several millers from Ireland. Wheat met an active demand at an improvement over the prices of last Tuesday of 3d. to sd. on white, and sd. to 6d. per 701 bk on red. Flour was eagerly bought up, mid must be quote 2s. 6d- per sack and barrel dearer. Oats and oatmeal werel, held at an advance of I.d. per 451b5., and ls. per 2401b5., which checked sales. Beans receded 6d. per 4801bs. ; but barley and pease brought fully previous rates. Indian cora on the spot was held for ls. per 4801bs. more money, but little business resulted. Floating cargoes were readily sale. able, Galatz and Odessa at 30s. to 30s. 6d. , and braila at 295. to 295. 6d. p er quar t er, C ., F., and I. IPSWICH-Juur 5. We cannot report a large show of wheat for sale at Shil market to-day, which assisted in making the trade ve9. animated and excited. W e must report an advance Of 3s. to 4s. per quarter upon all qualities. Beans and spring . corn inquired for. PER QUARTER. PER QUARTX I4 :I Wheat, red (old) 4Bs to Seft Barley, grinding 00 5 t o 000 Ditto (new) Ditto, white (new) 52s to 59s Peas Ditto (old) Barley, malting ... 30s to 32s Flour, per sack AVERAGES FOR THE WEER ENDING JULY 2, :853• Wheat Barley Oats — „ 00s Od Beans Peas HULL -JULY 5. Thera has been a large business doing in wheat during the past week, and at daily improving rates. We cannot write the advance of the week at less than 38. to 4s. per quarter on all descriptions: The late import of barley is cleared off, chiefly to warehouse, as it cannot be imported for our present quotations. The supply of beans is chiefly Egyptian, which are held at 408. per 631b5., and none are now to be had under 375. ; the market is cleared of Ger man. Oats are 6d. dearer. s s Wheat, English, red 58 to 60 Ditto white 6O to 63 Dantzic and Konigs berg Pomeranian and Ham burgh Danish, Holstein, and Friesland 5O to 52 Russian and Odessa 44 to 48 Oats, English Ditto Danish Ditto Friesland Ditto Russian 2O to 22 Barley, malting Ditto grinding 27 to 29 s 0. Peas, gray and black 36 to 3 8 Linseed, Black Sea 47 to 48 Ditto Petersburgh 4l to 46 Ditto Riga and Arch angel - Ditto Konigsberg and Memel 3B to 0 Per Ton. c., Hull 8/ ssod to 0/ Os Od Ditto fine for. 81 2s 6d 01 00 Ditto inf. for 6l 15s Od to 0108 Rapeseed 26i 100 to 01 00 Rape cakes Tares, English 3 60 to 380 Ditto foreign Guano 4l 91 to 10108 Bones 9ss Od to 97s 6d Rye Meal Beans Ditto foreign Peas, white and yel 4O to 42 DUBLIN—JULY 1. White wheat,' 268 Off to 30s Od ; red ditto, 25s Od to 28s ; barley, 13s Od to 16s 6d ; oats, 10s Od to 12s 6d ; rapeseed, 00s Od to 00s per brl ; oatmeal, lls Od to 13s Od ; bakers, flour, 14s Od to 188 Od per cwt ; Indian corn, 28s 6d to 32s Od per 480 lbs. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HOLLOWAY'S OINTMENT AND PILLS ARE SURPRISING REMEDIES FOR TIM .CURE or BAD LEGS.—Mrs. Sarah Ashby, of Knowslgy, had been a sufferer for a considerable time from a bad leg of a verf alarming description. Several medical gentlemen at tended her, and she had recouse also to other remedies usually adopted in s uc h cases, b ut a ll wer e o f no ava il, and after bei ng re d uce d to a very distressing condition from continual pain and suffering, she was induced to try Holloway's Oinment and Pills, and these astonish ing medicines effected a perfect cure in a comparatively short time by strictly following the directions given with them. She has continued in excellent health ever since. 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T b elescopeE—A new and most important invention in telescopes, possessing such extraordinary_ powers that some, 34 inches, with an extra eye-piece, will show distinctly Jupiter's moons, Saturn's ring, and the double stars ; with the same telescope, weighing only 3 ounces, can be seen a person's countenance three miles and a half distant, and an object from 16 to 20 miles. They sup erse d e ever y other kind for the w a i s t coat - pocket, and are of larger and a ll sizes, with i ncreasing powers accordingly. Opera and race-course glasses, with wonderful can be clearly seen from 14 t o 16 miles power; an object S. and B . S olomo n s, opticians, have in vented invaluable preserving spectacle lenses. Immediately distant. Messrs. P' : 4 : they are placed before imperfect vision every object i a nd distinct; a , tplpears c ' ear and brilliant, • --e most aged:defective sight becomes bright t is brought to its youthful, and original s ate. Deafness—New Discovery— r or, an extraordinary powerful and new ly-invented instrument, for Deafness, entirely different froth all others, to surpass anything of kind that has been, or probably ever can be, produced. Being of the TnahteurOatganic .b sa me colour as the skin, it is not perceptible ; it enables d ea f persons to hear distinctly at church and at public as semblies ; the unpleasant sensation of singing noises in the ears is entirely removed ; and it affords all the assist ance that possibly could be desired.—S. and B. Solomons, Aurists and Opticians, 39, Albemarle-street, Piccadilly. Observe, opposite the York Hotel. BIRTHS. OF A SON. On the 25th ult., at Revens-sur-Roche, near Lausanne, Mrs. C. Garner Richardson. On the 3d inst., at Norton-hall, Derbyshire, the wife of Charles Cammell, Esq. OF A DAUGHTER. On the 2d inst., at Candie, in the island of Guernsey, the wife of Peter Stafford Carly, Esq., the Bailiff of Guernsey. On the 2d inst., at Richmond, Surrey, the wife of Neville Ward, Esq. vEsSELS SPOKEN WITH. The Friendship (bar q ue), of Sunderland, in lat. 47 N., long. 19 W. The Callao, Liverpool to Callao, June 26, l a t. 4 2 N., long. 1 1 G W. The on dola (s), outward bound, May 11, lat. 18 N.; long. 3 0 W. The Akbar, Cork to Calcutta, on or about June 18, lat. 47 N., long. 12 W. The Zebra, from Oporto, about 20 miles off Cape Finis terre, June 21. The Asia (barque), Feb. 21, lat. 10 N., long. Bl' E. The Eclipse, London to Mauritius, June 18, lat. 37 N. long. 15 W. ; . . • Hector, of Dundee, from Odessa, 30 miles W. of Oporto. Plantagenet, Glasgow to Singapore, May 9, lat. 45 N, i LONDON : Printed and Published by 31 - 17RD0 YOUNG' , long. 9 W. of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office. No. 1 12 1 } Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in the conntY O' Waratah, Bristol to Cllifornia, larch 19, lat. 3 5, long. 17 W. 1 Middlesex, Wednesday, July 6, 1853. 1 HAWED. On the 4th inst., at St. Peter's, Pimlico, Henry William Holmes, Esq., only son of the late Rev. William Holmes, rector of Cripplegate, to Sarah, youngest daughter of John Key, Esq., of Chester-street, Grosvenor-place. DIED. On the 2d inst., suddenly, at 1, Holland-place, Gla Patrick M`Naught, Esq. On the let inst., at her residence. 90, Montpellier-road, Brighton, Miss Cooper, aged 77. by res t , dace tar e vase; in tt tri ce e xial Deb; ages anal, It Arie, h e 4 the Ina y and that dera in plan of tl the attc rew tree care Publ of th have i I awl tint, tiall cons of it ham case Six t medi ahoul