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t IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE' OF PEERS. TUESDAY, JUNE 19. -THE House, in a Corrunittee.vf Privileges, heard evidence in support of the• claim to the Barony of Roos. After some few observations from Lord CARLE TON, explanatory of the• Laws, of Marriage in Ire. land, their Lordships heard Evidence in support of the Petition of . TIGHE, Esq. praying for a diss . ohation of his marriage with his now wife, on the score of Adultery. The 'Bill was afterwards read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Thursday. 'T;he Aylesbury Election Bill went through a Committee withoucany Amendment, and was Or dered to be read a third time to_marrow. The. Bill to exempt British aril Irish Linens from the 4 per Cent. Exportation Duty, was read a first time. The other Bills on the Table Were passed in theig respOive stages. 4djuntp.ed till to-morrow. HOUSE 0.. 4 ' COMMONS. TUESDAY, JUNE 19. Mr. HARMAN brought up a Petition from the Merchants and Corn Dealers. of the City of Drog hed,r,. irj Ireland, praying to he heard againc.t the Resolutions, of the comtnittee.on the Corn Laws. . • A Nlessage.from the Lords announced - their Lord. shipi'_ Assent to the Caledonian Canal Bill, and ikvisiiing the House to communicate to iheir.LOM ships a Copy of the4Minutes, Report, and Appen d-jilt of the Committee on the Current Coin of Ire . the MeSierigers - tvereagarin nlled in, and a printed Copy was accordingly' delivered to them. The' Committal of the Bill for. Suspending the Wc.nlien Manufadnic:rs' .Laws ' was postponed to Friday re - v. - Mr. FOSTER brought up a Bill, for continuing two Ass, regulating the Price of Grain, Meal, and exported between Irciand, and Great .lkitain. Rzad a first time, and orciered,to be read a second: 'to-morrow. The -house went into a Committee upon the Laws regnlating the Linen 11dknufaaures of Ireland..— Report to be received to-morrow. • Sir CTV.I2I..ES BuNpußy motici.l.the postponement of t he,conAio . 4tion of the Repori of the Corn C0m.... initiee, and that the Bill be re.e6mr.iit:ed to-mor- row.--Agreed. MF. STURG:iS BOURNE moved for leave to bring zn a Bill to- prevent the counterfeiting of Silver Coins ) and - cutinterfeiting Dollars .i - s,tied by ,the Bank of England, and also oOribla Tokens; and to pre vent the. circulation of / such base Coin from the one Country to the ot4er.—Leave given. , .IYI r. PR INC FP said, he would take some future ovpotennity of stating his Objeetions to such it Bill, as Le did not approve . of any Coin beitig allowed to be in Circulation but what had- been-coined at His 'l\4l.:sty - !). L Mant.-7-I.:eave 'was given to bring in the Mr. DENNIS BILQW/sJE moved, that there be laid before the House a Return of the number of Men raised for the Army. of Reserve in Ireland, to the 24th of May lait.—Ordered. The SEOETAKY at WAR gave notice, thzt he would, en Friday next, move for leave, to bring in a Bill to enat)le His MAIEsTY to employ Foreign Corps in h is service. . Mr, Ilu,Riss<vs obtained leave to bring in a Bill to enable the Lords 'of the Treasury to issue Excite. .itter 'Bills upon Aida or Supply granted for the Ser vice of the year 1804.. Mr. HOEHOUSE presented a Petition from the Chamber of Manufaaures and Commerce in the city of Glasgow, against the Report of the Corn Committee. Also, a fejtion from the Lord Pro*ost and Com mon Council of Glasgow, to the same effea, both of w hich wete ordered to lie on the Table. As was likewise a Petition presented by Colonel VsitEKrtt,.from the Freemen and Freeholders of the .Ciry of Limerick against a rtsoitition of the said Co:omitter. Mr. HjsKis!oN obtained leave to bring in a Bill, to enable th:. Lords Commissioners of the Treasury to issue, Exchequer Bilk, on the credit of the aids tk the. year 1804.. Mr. MILLS, ►corn the 'Office of the Secretary of State, presented Copies of the Letter of the LORD AD'vocATE of Scotland, to the Sheriff Depute of the c otri fy i t 13,infr, and of the Letter of the latter to Stierff's clerk of the said County.—Ordered to lie 1: fl the Mr, 'WHITBREAD moved, that they should be printed, and as he understood that there was no ob_ i. Zion e, , the part of the j -f-v). Gentleman concern ed, (the LORD ADVOCATE Of Scothinti) renewed his n , _+(ice of a Motion fOr a- Resolution ca the subjed Fr.c.lay next. • Mr. ALEX ANDE R: brought up the Report of the E a .r Prize Goods Bill, which, cn the Motion 6f Mr. Roe E, was ordered to be taken 19 further ,conside r lion tomorrow. 'Mr. JERVIS proptisCd to pcFtpone the second real.. ; ng ~f the. Prize Agents Bit', to this day se'nnight ; it His Ntjesty's Tvlinisteis should not then be pry fired to meet the discussion of the' subjeet, and rn olfer such Amendments, 44 in their. view cc it, mi i ;lit render the measure efficient to its objea, ;,-4:criag the liiteness of the ,Session, he should be disposed to press the .further progress of it t:len, unless he should perceive it to be the decided en , e of the House ;, and that the postpor;ement l House. ucscion might be likely- to produce a better oi, th,an to exhaust the time of the BER!tELEY stated,. that he could prove the %%hole' was'an arrant job, not originating • means with the gen-:ral 'sense of the Navy. P,01.13 hoped that the House would slim ;..c they wou!d not be inattentive to the grievances inplaincd of. LAwnENCE stated, that.he thought itvas an indnigerce in the Howse to admit such o i;_t.p.oTt as. tNt .which..tuld, been presented, !c) 0117 ci,eir Table. ADVor..ATE GENER.AI, spcke e v ,r) the sam e s( iutthe . t . -7:platitiol, the chticr was postponed, according to the terms of the tion. ADDITIONAL FORCE BILL. The CH AN CELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the aiy for the third reading of this Bill. Col. EYRE said, that when this Bill was first brought forward, it did appear to him to contain principles so extremely hostile to the Constitution of the Country, that he was anxious the House should rejeCt such a dangerous innovation; but one of the Clauses which had been introduced yesterday, had altered it so much, that his chief objedioo was greatly removed, though he thought it still very er.celitionable. He was not, however, so unreason able as to expea that a great Plan of Defence could possibly be devised, that would be deemed totally ImobjeCtionable. As the sense of the House had already been taken upon it, he would not now throw any thing in the way of its future progress. He de precated the principle of joining in opposition, in order to remove any man, or set of men, in whom he considered himself bound to put confidence. — 'Such a mode of procedure had a very pernicious ef. fed, as we had already witnessed, by forcing from His Majesty's Councils, a Ministet who at crrice -possessed the confidence of his Sovereign, and that of his People ; and owing to whose vigorous exer e tions our FOrce had been raised beyond all former precedent, for the purpose of strengthening our Con stitution, and enlarging our Liberty. Mr. T. GRENVILLE.—" Sir, an accidental illness has prevented the from attending here as re gularly as I could wish. When I have attended, however, I have heard the most serious and weighty objeCtions urged to this Bill in a very forcible man-, ner, and hardly receiving any answer. Before I offer a single observation on the Bill, I must take notice-of a reference which yeas made last night by my Right Hon. Friend ,Mr. P;TT), to some pres4ions which he conceives were formerly used either by me, or some of those with whom I am most nearly connected. Any discussion of this sub jeCt is to me peculiarly embarrassing, and I am sure nothing can be more embarrassing to thO'se who are more immediately Conneeted with me, than .to see - the Right Hon. Gentleman in a situation in which we can only look upon -him with pain and regret. .I allow that it was perfectly open to him to recall to the reCollettion of the Hose any sentiments which we-may have delivered on a former occasion, and VhiCh are contrary to our present conduct : but in this' point I am convinced that the Right Hon. Gen.: tlehnin 4 mistaken ; 1.. am clmvinced that no . ex 'press'ion ever fell from the - lips of any of them with whom' I .ath connefted, that could imply a belief that anyone indi‘vidnal, however great his talents -and experience, could 'alone be sufficient, in times fike these, to work out 'the salvation of the Coun try. I ~n sure this was never my opinion, nor do I think it could have been the opinion of any of my Hon. Friends who sit near me; and it i 4 because my opinicirt .: is directly otherwise, I feel nothing but pain and regret. in seeing my Right Hon. Friend (Mr. PITT) placed in the situation that he is in at present. Among the many powerful objeCtions which have been urged to this Bill, and to which I have head no answer at all given, is, that by the B ninnies .which are given, there will be absolutely a premium not to enter into the Regular Service direttly, but on the contrary, to go to it through the circuitous channel of this additional Force now to he raised." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, " I certainty do not wish to protradt the dis. cussion by re-arguing the Bill ; I shall only observe, in answer to whit tell from the Right Hon. Gen tleman (Mr. GRENVILLE), that those observations which I made last night, were drawn from me by allusions .to my personal condua, from .the Noble Lord (Lord TEMPLE) who sits next him ; in eon 'sequence of those allusions; I observed, that at a time when he and his Friends were opposing a for. mer Government for its inefficiency, some one of them ,did certainly say, that my being placed at the head of the Government, or having any share in it, would be a circumstance that would remove, in their minds, every objeclion to it. Since that ;line a great change has taken place in the Administration, and I have been called upon by His MAJESTY' to fill a leading . situation in the present Goy'ernment. I did therefore suppose that such a change having taken place, called for a different ondii,e'l on the part of those who had before expregsed such an unmerited degree of partiality for me; -I did not (*pea they would immediately have entered into a systematic opposi tion to the measures of Government, and oppose the first measure which it brought forward. There is nothing more strongly in my recolleaion, and it is 'confirmed by the recolletlion of others, than, that expressions of the import I have stated were used by either the Right Hon. Gentleman or some of those nearly conneded with him. They proceeded, 'tis true, from a partiality to ;xi mach beyond what I deserved, and therefore they may recall their ex presssions if they plc ;<e. Mr. GRENFILLE, in'retnianation,. said, to the t best of his .-recolleetion, he, and others nearly con_ the With him, :had expressed the very high opinion which they had ever entertained of - his Right Hon. Friend. 'But it could never be supposed, that they meant to have gone the 3engtll of saying, that the single circumstance ofihis Right Hon. Friend being Made a part 61 the Government which he then op posed, would' be a sufficient reason to them to de sist from their opposition. . I.rd TEMPLE, for himself, stated, distinEtly, that what he looked to most anxiously, for the sake cl the Country, was a Government at the head of which his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. PITT), should be placed. But his Right Hon: Friend would not conceive from that, that his being at the head of any_Governinent whatsoever, would he sufficient to obtain his support to that Government. Whatever may heiVC been the conception of his Right Hon. 'Friend, he should, like his Hon. Friend near him, disavow having even entertained the sentiment to souls an extent. Right Honourable Friend's making a. pan of an Administration radically oh. jeaionahit, never could give him a confidence in that Adininistration. It would he in the recollcc- Aloe. the.HcOse, that when' he made use cf the expression, the Right finn. ,.., G h e ic n i t i le b tr i n la vv t porter eih the Government a s s i r a ce s t L i ! i i,) - - pins . cd, and which he was nove at the head of.— Whatever room tTiere may be to imagine, from a confidence in , the exertion of his Right Hon. Friend's great talents, that this Government was of much greater value than the former, he could not, though he allowed there was accession of talent, see much consolation in a change, which was confined Co a single individual. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in explanation, said, lie referred to what had been said by those nearly conneded with the Noble Lord, and not particularly to any thing that had been said by him. Mr. JVINDHAM said, that as he considered the fate of the Bill pretty well decided, and that it was adopted by the House, he did not wish to renew a discussion; but still he felt so earnestly and so seri ously on the subject, that he could not avoid offering some observations, More with a view to unburden his mind, than.with any hope that they would alter the disposition of the House. The first objection that he made was this : in presenting any Plan for the National Defence, it was necessary to take all the parts together ; the Right Hon. Gentleman had, however, taken a different course he did not chose to crowd all his figures on the Stage at once, but brought them forward one at a time. The Volun. teer Bill was first pushed off, and the consideration of theßegular Army was not yet brought on ; and yet, it was the Volunteers who, in numbers, and the Regulars who, in value, were the. principal parts of the present Defensive System. It will be some what ridiculous to see the Volunteer Force strut off the Stage, stript of those exemptions which were given to _them as privileges. Those exemptions were, in fait, the main stay and support of the Volunteer System, or rather, they were the cement which kept it together ; a cement, which, like the wax that kept the wings of Icarus, when once melted, down fell frarus'i Such would be the fate of the Volunteer System by taking away the Bal lot, and consequently the Exemptions. The next objection he had, was to the mode of Recruiting : instead of " the Recruiting Officer,!' we were to have in future " a Regimental Vertu." Indeed, the Bill had been` so totally altered in its principle since it had been first introduced, that it appeared to him that the Right Hon. Gentleman would have abandoned it altogettmr; if - it was not for appear. ances, as that would look like his having no Plan ; be therefore altered it into something between com pulsion, and the absence of compulsion ; aornethina that wa, to differ from the Army of Reserve, and yet not to be the same as the Quota Bill, but still to be carried into execution by the Parish Officers. The Gentlemen on the other side of the House sometimes ask, if we find fault with their Plan, why do we not offer some Plan of our own the first place, the presenting Plans is particulaily the duty of Ministers ; and, in the next place, he and his friends had presented Plans, and Plans fro which every thing that was good in the Right Hon. Gentleman's Bill was taken, but spoiled in the mixing op of his materials. The only fault that could be found in the Plan of his Friends was its great simplicity ; it was 30 easily understood he cou!d 'hart:illy have got credit for it as a grand :measure. It would be some thing like the man who complained of paying half a.guinea to an experienced dentist, who extraaed his tooth widlout pain, and told him, "why in the country I have on ly p a id h a lf- a - crown , an d b een dragged all round the room therefore, perhaps, it was more expedient to invent a Plan more compli cated in its machinery. He felt another strong ob jeCtion to the principle of this intermediate Force, which, he thought, instead of increasing the military spirit diminished it, as it gaVe all the trappings and decorations of soldiers to men who were not soldiers for general service, and thereby prevented many from enlisting for general service. If he was to go into the detail of the Bill, it was evident that there was a hounty of six guineas for not enlisting at once into the Army; but going first into this Additional Force. There were many persons who might hesi. tate to go upon the turnpike-road, when they were to pay the expellee of it ; but there were very few who would hesitate to pass through the turnpike gate if they were to be paid for so doing. As there fore, under this Bill, it is so much more to the ad vantage of a recruit to enlist at first fora limited, rather than for general service, this consideration would strongly operate against the recruiting for the Regular Army. He then disapproved of the Mili tary Inspectors to be appointed by this Bill, and said, that for the future Officers must study law, and Lawyers military matters : he expected soon to see the ATTORNEY GENERAL always General of the Forces; arid the military education to be formed in the Inns of Courts, instead of High Wycombe. He then examined the Bill in all its details, and declared thit he considered it inefficient, vexatious, and op- pressive. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose, not to prolong the discussion, but merely to explain as to-one point. Though the Ballot was included in the origin::l Plan, it was only to a certain limit, and therefore the Right Hon. Gentleman was mistaken on the point on which he had wasted so much wit and humour in the outset, and so much invective towards the close. An explanatory conversation arose, in which Mr. WiNDHAm denied that he had mis stated. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER repeated his assertion with some qualification; and Mr. Fox asserted at first, and affirmed a second time, that the difference between the original Plan and the Bill, was this, that in the Plan, Parish Officers were Recruiting Officers for the Parish ; tinder - the Bill they were Recruiting Officers for the Public. Lord DE BLAQUJ EgE rose to speak, hut the cry of "Question'? was so frequent and loud, that he did not persist in pressing a' hearing . Tile Question was then put on the third reading of the Bill, and carried without a division. The Bill th,m passed, and' was ordered to the Lords. The other Orders of the Day were tliep disposed of, and the House adjourned. MAUS. DUk. „ ARRIVED. liamburo z PRICE OF STOCKS, THIS hA Y AT TWXLVE o'cLocic. Corfsuls - • - Red. 4er. - 1' THE SUN. SOL/Ill! QUIS DICERS FALSUM AUDEAT LONDON, JUNE zo, (804. AFTFR all the exertions made by the oppon ents of Administration—exertions, we will venture to say, unparalleled in the 4nnals of Parliament , — a fter all the confident prediCtions that this most formidable Minority would, before the Defence Bill arrived atitsla was last be augmented into a Major it Y -- the Bill last night read a third time,. and pass"' (without a Division. Nothing but the r importance and seriousness of the subjed, coeld prevent tIS ( 11 ' 171 indulging our risibility at the ingenious, timed, and pathetic appeal made to the Irish Mem . bers in the Oppo s i t ion Papers on IVlOnday• This grand effort was reserved till the very last mome nt ' in the hope, we suppose (though it certainly wa s not very complimentary to th e Iri s h Members) , tl ' ac they would not have time to discover the ab surdity of these solemn addresses to their feel in g' . It is Pot often, of late, that the two pagers tv which we allude have agreed but When they do , as Mr. SI-IPRIDAN says, " their unanimity iw W°11; derful."—linfortunatelv, however, this Ia ogil plan completely failed. The Irish' Members (t'. ° ta they were gravely told that the Bill'had nothing do with Ireland, arid consequently they copld n° possibly vote for the Bill, though they might ref consistently vote against it), knowing that &I. were Members for the whole of the Unite 4 Kingdom,obiea thisas wellill as to as for Ireland, a nd that the of neral Defence of the'Empire: votedprovide upon tthheis g:: upon every other measure, judgment and conviaion, The complete defeat which the .Party s°sl' 1 that tained, has now broken out in peevishness and i ti •r' vettive against Mr. PITT, and we are ; BONAP.A . RTE 1 - pas been fortunate in many 1)1. ' 3 " t heir own in none more than in beil C g c°r o d p i p ri o 4;l* s r ell by: s9° oc man as Mr. PITT. Upon . this point we do nor think the Moniteur will very readily fil.Cia 1' with the Paper to Which we allude, th°°4 • f ealli general they agree tolerably well; but if this ery be the opinion of the Party, they will nqt v • ot is easily be able to defend Mr. Fox for being. an* mr , to form a part of an Administration of which • r iyuting PITT was to be at the hind, unless, by att' di., •to him a motive (which we are by h e no t nean9 and posed to do), viz, a wish to gra tif y promote the interests of BoNAFRfg• t wi#l4.o IT is stated in pr Letters the par every thing indicates an intention on the Enemy tor try ar last their long menace d inv d sion.hea It is even said, that all the ammunition we arc S i c ! froM the very roughitsteeamtmbaernktedtheybexpert 'ence(a•fr44l:ll SIDNEY SMITH, when endeavouring to creep their own coast, will not encour a g e then? to tr Y t'° issue of a contest in the open sea. we have r" s°ll d t i o ni af b ot e e r m l i a e at ;: ti e eornn t l h ,wt a i t ioi ne G ht o ile v ea e n r p n la m erat e d n o t tfhte h ir: l a e v etinelpyrea: ar : vnd any YESTERDAY afternoon extratied from them we received a reg°l4l ries of P . aris Papers t o f t,. -". totlt instant. We have neral y10nE,,.. d e li vered 1 A . 0 1 '''', in his defence, a n d -f ' • further nothipg, particurars of the State Trials ; hoWCVer, is t sa r toic ' yet known, or at least coma) . i respeaing the final result. • ~,:Bor The Letter written by General MottEn.ti • NAPARTE) is published in one of the SuPPleOents the Speech 4 4O to the Moniteur, a Note .in which the former was inclosed. State had prescrib tk e ' d ith l i ri t m he . READ is gravely informed In this Letter, tint the judge's ansttrote.. heart of BONAPARTE ‘47;6afG er:nted d itt a li,vely rovoier n t e i ‘ i v e by the rigorous measures which the safety 6f the Cousin, t vea WO sEANRIPCI:I3CIRSHOhaPs:frPIiAteRnIS,t° his IP° , lic to call down the benediq;ons of Heaven uP" t Nation, and upon the Supreme Chief of the Slate' who has been called by Divine Providence toitliPc. too rial Power. Such a mockery of Religion' 'i 1c1" serious a subjca to be laughed at, otherwise it•coa direEtiog -I not fail to give rise to the most ludicrous sensaiollsP riven in 'enslaved and degraded France. I ( ----. Monday morning His MAIEsTy, accompaPieci•hgf, the Dutu.s of CUM BERI. AN D and KENT, the Pgl'io CESSES SOPHIA and AMELIA, attended by Genera ls GARTH and MANNERS, tookan airing 011 hors.'",i, in Kew and Richmond Gardens. HER IVI,AISS: Ci and the PRINCESSES AUGUSTA, ELIZABETS, a n IVlAR.v,.fullowed in a Sociable. Yesterday morning Fits MAJESTY', 2CCOrilianoieua, by the DUKES of CUMBERLAND and Cm:lW° the PRINCESSES SOPHIA and AmELIA, took 90 ing on horseback throUgh Richmond arid ~,1 3`/: 1 1 , 4 , Parks. HER MAJESTY, accompanied by the IR . o f C ESS EL I 7,A B ETI-1., attended by the Countc"- AY L Ii 51: VIII') 1.011OWC(.1 in a Sociabl,l, . 1