The Sun. — London, England, 1811-06-28 00:00:00

( 01 .:, F ~ ( li; ,1.,0,) ti -14 0 ' r l' k ~. ~,,, 181 to *Cr , to it would operate to his Injury. Forti.ivir E>a owed ..telnag to any body. It was iii o said hisni livit he roteeded setting Mt* to ;yid meant to carry away eighty thousand s out of I he. Wilily estates. But these were inrameus falsehoods, and uttered by the last person in the country that tthottki 'have uttered. them. In the pr, s e nt ittsfanee, ' he assured tiwir 1.4 - 4dshtps„.A.r. was 00' oted by no party motke.i. The remedy he odw' proposed, was AS itnlr l e as the (Nil was alartu• isr . * obviate : 4l j they had nothing to do but whttr.tile . Bill propo6ed, render it iilegal .fut i "Man to piiy A I.ir y r sent than' 2 ts. for a gui nea. To rendor it tit , . tit for any person to receive a less sutu in thexase r a Bank Note, than the - value thirein expressed as .payable to bearer ; these were thelendpg provision, and thobeneficial_,tendeney, orr.ithcr the savirti iind preserving etiais of Nett mea4iire, . were incalculable. The farmers he rei• erde(ras an oppressed set Of men. It was a most itiemphoit (lnty of the legr.laturss to proted them. The 6 , 114' which he-contemplated would more espe ciidly atrea that meritorious clam They would bpread like a contagion. ,Their Lordships kne'= the flame that spread in consequence of the proposition of r oule ViscoUnt then absent (Lord Sidmouth)., Airy thing which would so essentially aged the in ter.tat. of she farmers would in like manner be in stantly cOmmunicated from one end of the country, to toe oiber. The adoption of the plan he tiropOsed would obviate every pending evil. The Noble. Earl ben presented lii, Bill, which he moved should be read a tire titne; which was accordingly done.-- Its title corresponded with . its, leading provisions its e. Toe Earl of 144:uroor, gave the Noble Mover ample credit as to the purny'and the correctness of his motives, in conitng` forward on the present . ocCa , sloth He agreed with him as to the great import• once of the •übjea, wlocti was one hick merited the serious atteffilon of the Legislature ;'and the arguments of the Noble Eat l certainly carried great Weibt wiih them, At the very late period of the' Session, evrt, just on the eve of its closure, and nutter ad the c•icionstances of the case, he tuought i would not be advisable to proceed any ftirtiver with the measure at present. When.the greai.extent and tpagnitude of the subject were considered, and it the propthed retneites were considered, he thought their I..:irth;hips must, generally be of his opinion. 1144 wa% ivady at the sane tittle to admit the pre. b.t!)le ellitacy of the remedies propeSed, as far as they ti cut. As to the. immediate necessity; for their adoption, where, it principally rested. on what was said, as to the jetended act of a .single indiVidual, 1;4; could unt subscribe. tp the existence of that Linder thricircumstancett, he could not believe that the intention would he, persevered in, or if it Nertl, that the example would be followed by any tither petson. For the 'evils coutemplated by the:, Noble Eall, the proposed remedy, as far as he consi; dined it, would be thotight lobe the most efficacious, y it, one grt-at and Material objeetion, that which referred to making notes a legirl tender,wasinatreat measUre ob. iated. Generally speaking, the sub,pect . iri question was not proper tor Legislative interference, except in arses of positive neeesiity, of which, as' yet, he saw oo proof. It would be preferable to rely upon the general pi inciple.of the mutual con,ti detive and good inner: of the people at large. Here . he did not toe a sufficient case Made out to induce a departure from that principle. The period of the Session, Whet) mem. of the Members had left town, and w hen • such an Important proposition could not. be adequately, di;cussed, was.atso a most serious objeCtiem As to the particular case alluded to by the Noble heunderstood it was not only apt Was stated by him, brit that the aheinative. of re eciving the Bank paper only at a depreciated slate, was niade a, poiltive C4miLli9uti! That the rents skotild bepaid either in British or 'Foreign coin, or in de pteeiat. d 133rd raper ! But he should repeat his firM betiet, that such an intention, even if add(' up on, would induce no other person so to act ; 'the exmople U. unit! not be tollowed. lie was aware of the itijustice of such a piucedure under the circurn• • stance, but lie tUd flu apprehension' as to the pre- C ;in example, and on the grounds he bad alt catty bi AIM, no necessity exilted-no ade quate case was in.nie nut, to call for such an important 4.141,134 e tot= rpesition. tuft it his duty, hhOnid th , Noble Earl move for the second reading of the itiil, , to move Theta be read a second time o n deep thy thice month, 'rile Lail of Likura. it A cc, at some length, point. ediy su;ported-tite art r t,titnenta and the proposiinm of his t'Sit..Ple•Vriend (E,:rktitatihope). With reaped, to the ease ot the Noble Lord, V. ho, it was said, itnitSted opon plymt.ot of his present rents in specie, li would recolleetion m$ the House, that some mood's ~puce; he had positively stated such a pra;:tice obtaineU in'beland and since that peried, numerous were the'anonymons letters he had re ceived, intotioing him that various instances of the kind occurred in that country. Ile was not decided acto 'tie propritiy of pre,siog such a 13i11 at this pe riod of the Si: ssion. It should he piloted, and an apportut ; ! 4 , ,,,i general consideration afforded as to the mum.: t, : e, remedy propowd, A re me dy, which the N.,ble S ,Icretary of State admitted' to be the bon leoit (4 0 ntnictr the cliCninsianCcS Wits Mare . ut. lie must opilose th e fprtneipte t b et it was prof LT:4We W eely on the discretion of- indivi dual's in rti e„nrttflo 01 inch vital iettportance„.thin on a positive 14w of the land. It was DCA Ific itie.ividuals, ;but to the protection of Partin , 1,,e;,1 lirepe i l ite look t and it was inennn. bon, Ott I.c..4liliti•e". to take the . itubjea alto its An; Ctiii)::ki .ILitini at the (t urbot j ro o n .: op. portitnity. A cohvetsation of some lingth ensued; principally between •the Earls of LIMBIttcK OLANCA , RTY, and LAuocticimii, reitpeeting the practices as above , sisied by the latter, to obtain in a considerable de. gme iii iteland. This position was controverted bY toe two first mentiooed Peers. What took' 'place was chiefly of an explanatory nature. • Tex Earl ut LAUDE9DALP , mentioned, that as tar 99 his information went, the practices in question, kineipally, if not entirely, were coOneti to the ordi of Ireland. The Earl of CLANCARTY relerredto, and explain. e I a variety of circumstances which might bile E t . +en rise CO reports of the kind, but which he at. gued,'did not obtain to the extent, or on the prinei. hi or mode which the Eall of Lauderdale seetned 10 ctooterni for. - Earl OitOSVENOR was of opinion, the subject, me. rited the serious attention of the House. He thought; however, in the proceedings on the present o,.easion, silty should be guided by circulistances, out come to any final decision as to the )jilt, until they saw what course those would take. The LORD CHANCELLOR wis not prepared to give any opinion as to the expediency of adopting the.. Measurt.propese4 by the 'l\l Ole earl i_het he telt called upon to say, that in proposipg that mea sure, the Noble Earl could be 'a . .;ttiated only by a sepse of the.publie.good, and that therefore, under all the circumstances of the times, he, thought the Noble ,Earl ,entitled to the thanks of that House, and of every well 7 wisher to the prosperity of the country, ler having thus brought the subject forward for their Lordshipe ,consideration. It was, far from being a question to which be- could very readily assent, to make a Bank Note ,a legal tender. The ordinary (Nations against it had much weight in his mind, such as—they were liable to be fictitious, &c. &c. ; ,but in other reopeCts he did not conceive that such a case as that adiuced by the Noble Earl cOuld i of itself be sufficient to authorise such an in-. terierence of the Legislature. The case, however, in iteelt, called for very serious consideration, though he had, in the good seise and patriotic spirit ot,the country, a sufficient guarantee that it would not be followed to any extent,' Beanies, as the law already existed, he thought that the property of the tenan try wasSufficientty secured, and it might be unwise to enact new laws on that head until circumstances absolutely called for it. He was not fond cif ex amining into the motive, of any mates conduct, but the conduct of the Noble individual who had been kidded to, he could not exactly astrtbe with. a Noble Lord (Lord Lauderdale) to pure patriotism. If he ordered a coach from his coach-maker at tool. and afterwards' paidr him that' tool. in Bank notes, surely he could not consider it as fair and liberal to requile that the same ce,ich-maker, when he had tool. to pay him fur rent, should bring that'sum iu gold', and net in Bank notes r : For surely it could not ,be considered as very fair in any manohcit, he should pay his' own debts in Bank notes ) . but Olen, when, others had debts to pay him, they should be paid in a diflerent coin from Bank notes, or that he 'should be indeninified tor the difference ihat might appear to exist between paper and gold at the inomeno.of payment. At beet, this was a sort of pure patriolismr which he little undil - stookand was ltuledispOsed to imitate: Lord Lstrbsan.k La Complained that be had,been grossly misrepresented by the Noble and Learned Lord. When he said that such a, determinatien might have been resorted to by any individual, from motives of pure patriotism,• his meaning was, that • ,such an individual might run the risk of incurring odium and unpopularity for having adopted such a resolution, though he might 114% e taken it up merely • with a view to make Ministers feel , the mitgnitude of the evils, which, by a' fake and fatal measure, they had inflided on the country ; which evils, there was every reason to dread, would every day become aggravated.' In this view of the question, whoever acted upon such it:twines, might fairly . be said to liax'e been influenced by' pure patriotism In taking such a resolution, and it. in that view only of the' case, in which conceived t hat such conduct might .have been snggested by such motives. As to the case of the coach , 'maker, it was pretty_ well understood that trades, men now shied with reterence,to the present circuny. stances of flank paper, and when they gave in a bill they would keep that circumstance in their eye; and perhaps in the case of the coach-maker the bill would have been t 201. instead of tool. adding 201. per cent., Ito bls bill, in conSequerice of the present supposed depreciation of Bank 'Paper. Why then was not a landlard to look on his side for an indemnity against 'any such supposed loss'? The Lotto CHANCELLOR,- .ip explanation, sup posed, tWI in -1801 he nad contracted with his coach. maker to furnish him with a coach in 181 I, for 1001. pv..rliiii;s in 1801, gold was to be had for 31. ids. and in lilt the price was rained to 41. Gs. The coach maker' would, nu dotibt, have adverted to this ch . - Cuinsiance, and justly, had he, (the Lord Chancellor) 'guested gold in payment for rent duei the very day after the coachtnaker had been paid his bill in Batik notes. This he observed, to , hew the unfairness and injustice of requiring a debt due' to landlord to be paid in gold coin,' while the hindkird would pay his own debts, perhaps to the very same tradesman in Bank notes only., • Lord LAUDB6DALE and the Loan CHANCELLOR again Severally explained as to the meaning attached by them to pare patriotism, ip the manner. they had employed the term. ' Lord STArtuore in reply,, thanked both sides of. the House for the lair loterpretatiun which they had put upon his motion„ and upon the mutise; which had induced him to bring it iorward. •He could assure them that they had done hint no more than justice. His only wish was, to give an opporinnity to his Majesty's Government of providing against a feeling, th‘ evil consequences, of which he must sc' tiously dreaded. The present alarm respecting the depreciation of Junk: paper arose, like most alarMs, trout false fears and unwounded prejudices. There aright soon, perhaps, be no gold in the country ; and be would say, so much the better. All the rion , cliiel of the pre.eot moment arose rout talsety wondering gold as the proper or only ciiculeting medium. , On this subject, he much admired an ob aervetion of Sir George Seville's, an_ observation most just and' philosophical. 11) a CoMersation:po the stibjed ut . a circulating medium, he recollected that . good and wise man to hav6 obnerved, that alit circulating medium was the measure of the relative valee of things. Fur .eiumple, that Wt, notes would purchase to that amonot a certain number of guineas,. a certain number of loaves, or of Opera tickets, or the travelliog a certain number et miles; and, that thus the price of every necessary, or en joyment, might be regulated by the valueefa Bank Note. 'lf the same rule did not exjst now, it was from'rejudice and idle tears—and he would again repeat; that it was to be wished there were no gold in the country. As to the measure he bad the ho• ! near of proposing, it was simple. and intelligible, and applicable to the Circnmstances of the moment, and it it were not adOpted by Ministers; on them would iie the responsibilitylor the consequences. He would content himself with moving, That the 13iil be now received, read, and that it no printed. Some conversation. here arose between the Noble Mover and . Lord Liverpool, resp e cti ng t h e d ay to b e appointed for the second reading attic Bill. Lord Liverpool wished it to be real a second time to. ! t. 4 N. SULL . I•I (aUtS DiCtitti It li T ? L 0 N 0 N, rnmly, JuNv.; 23, 1811. Tbii morning the following account .was received at ti,oYD's, respeding the action between H. M. S. Little Belt and the Auferican tripte Ptesident, The following is an extra& from thi Nova Scoria Gazette, brought to Falmouth by the Duke of Mon . 'rose packet : On the icith of May the English sloop of war. Little Felt fell in with, on the coast of , America; the: President, American frigate', which immediately gave Chace, and coining up fast,. the Little Belt hove:to, and, guarding against surprise, the tuna] preparatior6 Were made for . adion; at which time the stars in the American's pendant were perfedly cisihle, At about eight' she Came within hail, and' was twice asked 'from the Little llclt, what ship it was. The answer to the first inquiry was a repetition of the qtiestion—to the second, a broadside of rnand and ,grape shot; which was immediately returnell, and an' anion commenud, which' continued for three~ quarters, of an' hOur„ when the American c e ased . firing, filled her saili, sheered off, and asked the Little Belt; which just at thattime had also Ceased firing, what.- ship,, - was told hzr, name, and then inquired iE she had struck her colours—and 'was answered in the negative." • The following is the letter which we received from our Falmouth Correspondent upon the same subjed ` " The Duke of Montrose packer arrived this day, (Jane 25), in .26 days froM Halifax, with Mails and Dispatches. The Little Belt had arrived there, and the following appears to be the correct account re garding the rencurtre .mith the. American frigate; About ten o'clock in the morning, the latter Was perceived by Captain' BINGHAM ; but: not .knowing what she Was, , he made towards her, and on disco veringher to be a frigate, carrying a broad Pendant, he - striod on, a different tack. About six o'clock in the evening, he observed the frigate, standing to wards him under a heavy press of sail, and about eight o'clock she was `tio close to' him, that the sta r s in her pendant were very visible; and per ceiving that it was the intention of the frigate to take him, he avoided the satne,' Und - at/ the sarite _moment hailed to know what'ship it was. .No an. swer being returned, he again hailed, and was:an• swereclby a foll broadside of round and grape slim. The aaion then commenced, - atid , contintied fbr three quarters of at) hour, when both at .orter mo ment ceased siring. Captain BIINIGHAM was hailed by Commodore Itooatts' to know if he had struck, and informed him, at the same time, that it we's the American frigate President ; and was answered by Captain BINGHAM In the negative. !‘ Night coming on, each ship commenced .re pairing damaget, 'and on the followipg morning • Commodore Roaans sent his Lieutenant on board the Little Belt, stating his regret at the circumstance, that be did not know she was a vessel Of swat in , ferior force, and. requesting to conduct her into an American Port to repair her datnages, which Cant. B. declined, but no exPlanation for his cowardly con duet took place. Capt. BINGHAM, we regret to say, had t t men killed and 2 - 2 wounded, . By a Licate tenant from New..l6irk, it appears that the &es/• dent had been dispatched in search of his . Majesty's ship Cruerriere, which had taken an English seaman oat ,of an American coasting v,ssel, to demand him, and in east: of refusal, to conduct the British Moe into New-York. It is much to be 'regretted that she did not fall in with that ship, as, Cu that case , Commodore it., would have told a different tale." From these accounts a appears that the American frigate made a wanton and unprovoked attack upon his Majesty's ship.' If Captain &atlas acted in pur. nuance of the orders of his Government, it must be obvious that , Mr. MADDISON has resolved upon a war with this Country, and fiud;ng that the moderation of the British Government would afford him no plausible pretext for hos tilities, lie dirated this wanton ad of aggression to he committed. We trust, however; that tt.e fats i 4. not so' and that the American Government will lose'no time in maki n g re p arstion- for thii insult, In BUONAPARTE'S speech it) tit: Legi%httite 1 301 Y% he says, " America is` making efforti to canse :to freedom of her 'flag to be respected : her."—Wirilliis attaCic upon the Britiilt shipof ua a concerted measure between the ,French and Ame• rica, rican GOvernilien ts.? --It is said that Sir Jos, YORKII !will immediately be dispatched to the Coast of Anted —l. will second , with a' scinadron,-of Which the 1,7,qm., Exa• burgh, and America, will form part. .• ''Whether the :differen ces between Rtrii 3 a nti 1,,' France will be .amicably arrarg,ed or not , we not it present the means of deciding ; a ll thebut it ft` 1 ' n'arP!Hl. o bvious MA( liith*Poivet 3 are Gkiiig sary steps' to prepare for a s erious contest. Da marsh of the French tr oo p s to th fro G e ntieri of G U , land—the recall of the illo3l able ef d i e Fren gdrein* ch • nerals from the Peninsula—thtiLvilil e at represc ota, i oldin ti o ns of SoOLT, and the other French Generals is g tbrcernents,. notw i t h s tanding the ur Spain, are all strong proofs t hat IitIONAPAKTE Emperor 4RXANDEIt has shewli, pected '? war with Russia. On the other load, lig Opus he has taken, that he did Just think scotest,, Unlikely :_ the last intrigue he has adopted affords I decisive - proof that it is from France , rather Oa from.great Britain that he expects hostiliti,. go has withdrawn all the crews from his ships of wart indication. of and. sent theM to join his army in Polend . ''', S• . by th e precie , 1 4‘h a .atep at any time. would afford. s strong the present • circutUstances, it speaks a r o o st -approaching host:lities, bur, on jd , onegoivocal language. The French Minkier, LAti; itl . sToN,called upon the RuSsian GOOlllO4 . it) the most percinproty7Manner :to "CO ° .: in.ig to be Topeaed iri lb a is, in odia woo! G r eat brig to make a great naval exe rtion' against Great Oin. Now it appears that the Emperor iltills; "Ddlt, so' far from fitting out his fla t /g 1,11.., thus is not . all, Great Britain, has completely dish to it; v t. " frontiers' of ' Poland, where, if they , 61 ' 111 0 all, it must be against . the French. Slill " L 03 not undertake to say that a war will be tue i' s To the he has sent the crevvs to l': of these differences. We stated a few Jays 4 , various' motives which must make both Port iel g : A ft t io` e ' present rather disinclined to war, 01 3 u --ul th e . , out Readers to draw their own conclusions fofi ll I failrOefirre them. ................ d,,Y.:e'lsferday morning turning out' wet, the litoseiiiezeivirreeet,oitr'oecodlokctok itlil:edKininnig:me 'on l e accompanied t not w i take their b y p t r i 8 . a w al ImLLoirsn:nang: r'sivdalkie co. d rii ii : e ct raoce r:„ i partiesit Prison,:l o o atte p s e a r no o cfo 1 I int thatt e l ee of r r ,in s )Baevda en placeii c t n h b e ooi sei p sou l Y , aiEentiessngtssgeotlarheadndneadidli.libiloltiej 1 it s i n ' , e ii f t ti t' , i no el ori t : e e , r , , : oi I: i i b d e : ' 4 riffi atla of ii 14 tram. ihdiarn etit will be preferred 05 A Mail the Brazils is arrived;nrier ri..Pilir. (ts;weeks,ANll3M!i,/t,°ll.l7etiChOt IlbsYult,"callroi:tipitaeolertiri3;'%theept. p°n 3triving'between the Two fleado, he w.. c ii th o• board .. a man of war's boat, and landed 1" aMaile.r,e,P:niltv.rie.d-,;:strae.tidlb'e°sffeortirarSOonotPopiti:ntdsdis,tlitive °lived at I ll° q.v.:wit:llo r ilito I to , take on board, several regiments 01 °" 4 ore 10 Oraereali°" bring back the militia regiments country to. England. ~f,. i., r. ...a s OLIO! .-ANCERS.---01.1r renders 0••• ja he bat tle of Al o 1.1 era by t In•ir baiesrsiGb_leadtrri°r}tl'l9;;lllsonficeitic,ii,civil:' 1,11,11:4,gth0„..-..w;xuErraelemodrelotautptrul)reiivio. oildteestileelrti;tiisenti:rriegt'd.-11:ive-11:130111;:-Ilsries'r, ap:o:ll4:V::,oeirtn.a,iirioett.tiqtelul,oibtseca I dtsiaelen.ioggfullititneladbraytoevrsaiti.amti:::(ftr°r:floultrullolllicliou::::::::, hum, ,11 'r)rily from Lisboo, the almost tot?! ,:a. cers__....t w ho have, met ;just retribation for th,eir their "hies committed on . the wounded that fell tato ~,,,, itotntili:,intiliilote.,ldlr v ei.itrlc a l,lii,3dlitiltdl r itstri i i,,‘lbto i r!,.lll ‘ ).oe4 l l , llladtutie‘ tt :4lin i tila i g.dl i tsu.th i ,eured i rws l ridri, : : l e,o, r g. l ruoecoos n dnu c a,:t ) tic t p.ii,, l ueli t F):ipil: c a,t.siiliti : :ol,s l r,y , ,iiiic i! tit. : lfcicie.l l ,l .4 utist e liot. . patch ar r ived at Lisbon previous to the tisiliog,2eooi: oh It total anuiltilition. of' those I'ool' bulj;.fee' of vaelirrtl°liag, at the battle of AlDuer;'''Vlivetjul, saa i .::' this sPeciel of our force Pi becri . l'olitilii e!eudy tibt.t.l to the waving of red tia';s 1)(;)1. el it n LI 5(11 of Jr) os a large body of th!..se Poli:','i'`ther .1,1:11, And clorging thew root vi°''',`";j will U ap‘le4rcrsi,ettdliyll being l,j:vli.,:rsoutuidicli,oftig,asdn',ltine... 4ddv:e'i,rv‘.e;,r,ell°:l:odreriCt:yr4A i ' : : : ai g l e l i j ).',' 'E.:I t 'l , a , 4!' : f el l ; o el e : j o 1 i ' r 1 cavairv. 011,y .: yI # it . . I woo were 11 . of c.v., if; o u , , 1117111111., triDtllive) ; nil We Iol' 0 ibey w , fer . “cuiiig allies are with the French 044) ,„, I s . use ~..., esson that cruelly to 0 tilliv elle"' take 1 ' i ) I $ . . °PIY wart ,y,or, uneriboterte3 li,10Ige• 1 to rs i. o f Comber 3 Yesterday moroitig the POOO 0,161000 eiment, the 5l light clogoooth "'",, Itv t he ; 61 11 the li.ingsi duty at floutolow fiArrilc"8,011011 WO light dragoons. Th.! /511) mgt. lied ti ,0 s, wii6 o Yestprday :if trrnoon on their waY to ftliml,oll. ifial l hey mre to .be quartered fo r lit 1 11:r.,5 igeptlicilt halted' ;lt K. -.., v., ii':e; his RoyAl 101,11.reoleitaiatv 'a zratid Lift 11:61E, ,1-... r tlit. tjfij:';-41 1;h1i. di 41°16. the Wit,'iia of tiits al..ith p 40,7 ''' ' i • . and purser morrow ; as Ile then intended moving, 3Q an amend ment, That the Bill be re:id a s e cond time that An y two : writ lis. Lor(1-3 Stanhope and Lludettlile .jeaed to so early a clay, arid proposed Monday ; for which' day the second readioewas ultitnately - fiNxd, if the Bill should then,be printed. • Mr. Luslinigton brought up a Message (rain the Commons, importing that .they would give direc tions for the communication of a Copy of the Re port of their Comrrtiqee respeoting Peniteutiary Houses, agreeably to their Lordships' desire. He also presented pine or two Return l3thls. ri The Drawback Suspension Bill, after receiving n few. amendments, by way of rider, on the sug gestion of Earl Bathurst, .was read a third time and passed. Adjourned to to-morrow. MAILS. AILAIVED-1 New. York, •t:Niu, 2 Waterford. 1 1 14.1C1i tll WroCKS 1141,1 DAN , A r Ttv . itLvi oict.ncx Consols - (531 I RH. Ann. 6zi l Ornniurn dis.