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SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. Doubts have for some time past existed as to the probability of the Belgic negotiation leading to any favourable result. Those doubts have latterly Peen accumulating, and the question seems now, at length, to have reached a point,— and to have assumed a form,—ithich ought to fill the steadiest and most reasonable mind with apprehension for the immediate, if not the final, consequences. Between sixty and seventy pro tocols, or interlocutory conventions, to which England, Austria, Prussia, Russia, and (to the latter portion of the series) Belgium, have been subset-thing parties, bear witness to the real dili genne,—and to, at least, the apparent anxiety, for a successful issue, with which the labours of the London Conference have been carried on for more than eighteen months. The declared and o'teosible effect of their industry has been the dissolution of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, fter an uneasy existence of fifteen years, and the erection of one of its fragments into the little monarchy of Belgium. Against the terms of this dissolution, and of this creation, the King of Holland has constantly and loudly protested. On the part of the old United Provinces, he ob jected-Ist, to the navigation of the Belgic flag within the Dutch waters on the same conditions as that of Holland ; and 2d, to the responsibility of Dote!) credit for so large a portion of the common debt as was assigned to it by the acts of the Allied Ministers. In the mean time there were two other parties, reluctant co-operators in the general work of Congress. The German, Russian, and British Courts would, if they could, have pre vented the dismemberment of the Dutch-Flemish kingdom, and France must have seen with deep though suppressed vexation, the separate esta blishment of a new state, out of materials which all ranks and parties of Frenchmen, from La marque to Polignac, have agreed (however dif fering on every other point of policy) that it was a French object of the highest necessity to incorporate with the dominions of that great country. Beth classes of negotiators—those of France and those of other Powers of Europe— were induced reciprocally, by a dread of the in calculable evils of a general tvar, each to sur racier its favourite project, Germany, Russia, and England, to acquiesce in the dismember ment of the leingdom of 1815, and France to forego the appropriation of the Belgic portion to her own territory. In consequence of this mu tual harmony, or fear, the existence of the new kingdom has been decreed unanimously, and confirmed, defined, and provided for by proto cols almost innumerable. That, so far as the separation went, it was a wise decision of the Powers in Congress, is attested by the judg ments of all sober-minded men, amongst others by the Duke of Wellington (on that side of tae question an arbitrator beyond dispute), who declared that it was politically impos s6le for Holland and the Netherlands to remain any longer incorporated. The King of Hol• land, seeming to concur in the abstract necessity of a separation, has to the last persisted in re jecting the terms attached to it by the Congress, and upon the two grounds above referred to, viz., the internal navigation, and the unjust dis tribution of the debt. Instead of yielding gra aually to the urgent counsels or remonstrances of the allied Powers, his Dutch Majesty appears to have become more fixed and stubborn in op position as the general dissatisfaction of the members of the Congress at the delay of a final arrangement was more manifest. The most recent reply of this Prince to their representa tions is said to have been the most intractable of all ; and there are other indications of the secret views of his cabinet, one of which we now deem it our duty to advert to. In this days Times will be found a letter, copied from the illessager des Chambres of the Ist inst., and purporting to be dated at the Hague on the 22d ult. We have, or fancy we have, reason for suspecting that the writer of the said letter was not far from the person of the King of Holland when it w as composed ; and, in fact, that it speaks not only the sentiments of that pertinacious monarch upon the whole Belgian case, but those likewise of ar.other Court, whose experienced Minister, lately in London, has nevertheless affixed his mane to one of sixty odd protocols, which it is the avowed aim of the Dutch letter-writer to frustrate and overturn. We need only refer the reader to this expose of the scheme hich it is now proposed to substitute for the arrangements so solemnly decided on by the Conference, to prove the utter disgrace and ridicule which would attend its adoption at this hour, on the part of the allied Courts. The advocate or organ of King Wil liam (of Nassau) uses but little circumlocution to recommend to Louis-Philippe, that he shall take to himself the whole of Belgium, save only the sea-coast of Flanders, to the Scheldt, in cluding Ghent, and so much of Brabant as embraces Antwerp, and the command of that river. Limburg anti Luxemburgh, it may be presumed, are the bait to be held out to Prussia for her support in this project of partition. Let it for the sake of argument be admitted, that if Holland were left in possession of Antwerp, the coast of Flanders, and the course of the Scheldt, Great Britain might have but slight cause to apprehend any injury to her maritime or com mercial interests from such a settlement. Let it even be acknowledged, that, however seriously the German Powers would feel themselves af fected by a further projection of the French terri tory towards the Meuse, there could be no im mediate cause to fear for English security, or well-being, from an outspread of France in that eastern and inland quarter. But with these ad missions, which, however, we do not ourselves allow, the tolerance of England must end. The protocols which have marked the successive stages of an elaborate negotiation, and have placed on record the deliberate decisions—the promises and pledges of this country and her allies, are not to be regarded as so much waste paper, and to be flung aside in bitter mockery of the important interests created under them of ail imperial and royal honour, and of all national and public faith. Belgium has been erected into a sovereign State. Leopold has become a re cognized King, and has long since entered on his high functions. Is it then for the conve nience of the King of Holland, or for a flash of French popularity to M. Talleyrand, and to the tottering throne of Louis-Philippe, that such a series of grave and binding transactions is to be at once unravelled, and the voluminous accession made to the public law of Europe during 1$ months by the accredited Ministers of all its leading Powers, is to be capriciously annihi lated ? England must employ her best moral means t o avert a catastrophe so shameful. Prussia and Austria wit!, if any decency be left in the Cabinets of Princes, join their exertions to hers ; and Belgium herself; if she really feel what she professes,—a just attachment to her King, and the pride of national independence,— will not be slew to intimate her eagerness for the instantaneous interference of Great Britain and the Germans in favour of their own great work. We do not impute trachery to the King of Hol -1 land 1 li in this new attempt to disappoint the fair adjustment of a question, by which the peace and happiness of Europe have been so immi. nently endangered and disturbed. But on the p trt of France, were she to catch at such a scheme, as on that of Russia and Prussia, were they to connive at it, there would be the grossest and most monstrous perfidy.— Times. We are highly gratified to observe the imme (Fate and spirited exertions made by the old and the new liberal constituency throughout the United Kingdom to secure honest and able re presentatives. There appears no want, save that of fitting candidates, willing to incur the labour and responsibility of the Reformed Re presentation. With infinite pleasure also we hear, from all quarters, the determination of the electors to abolish unnecessary expenditure, and to terminate the old corrupt arts and despicable electioneering devices of the late boroughmongers. On no other terms, indeed, will the electors find I men willing to serve them. The new constituency, especially, ought to adopt a rigid determination to support no candidate who dares, to approach them with the profound qualification of money expenditure. The electors should oppose any man, whatever his declared principles, who resorts to his purse as the means of obtaining his return. The ultimate benefits of the great mea sure of Reform can be achieved on no other principle. The Tories make a great parade of their Conservative Treasury,—of their " bags of money,"—their voluntary sub criptions for their electioneering tools—and their determination to make a " bullion" contest of the ensuing election. We do not credit a word of this braggadocio ; and, if true, it is manifest that this system will soon bring its own cure. Lord Eldon and Company were never so remarkable in spending pro Bono publico as for hoarding to their own private advantage.) We know that the Dorsetshire election gave them a surfeit, and strong symptoms of cramp. The spirited exertions of no town affords us more pleasure than those of the independent electors of Stamford. 'We insert a report of their proceedings, partially abridged from the Stanford News. The address of Mr. Gre gory, a tried Warwickshire Reformer, is one of the most specific and concise statements of poli tical opinions yet put forth by new candidates. The attention of the whole country will be di rected to the result of the Stamford contest. But we cannot imagine that the Marquess of Exeter will continue his expensive and hopeless attempts to swamp the representation of his native town. We are at a loss to account for the perverse view entertained by the aristocracy of their real interests. Will they never, in any country, open their eyes ? Will they blindly rush on self destruction ? And are they determined to hasten that ultimate collision with the people and the House of Commons, which all far-sighted men discern in no distant perspective, from the inevitable and destructive consequences to the Constitution which a blind aristocracy must oc casion ? Stamford and Warwick will be the great test of the early necessity of the ballot, and the Peers most inimical to the ballot seem ob- stinately bent on its immediate obtainment. The extent to which the inhabitant house holders entitled from their rent to vote, will be disfranchised, through the corrupt jobbing of parochial functionaries, is known, we believe, to few of our readers. The evil is crying, and some attention ought to b e p a id t o th e suject before it be too late. We shall illustrate this by a reference to the parish of Greenwich, which is not perhaps in a worse state than other metro politan parishes, but in which the corrupt doings of the parochial functionaries have just been traced, with singular diligence and acuteness, by a very able individual in that parish, Mr. Badger, a surveyor, in Blackheath-road, to rvhom his fellow-parishioners are very greatly indebted. By the Reform Act, no person occupying pre mises in a city or borough of the yearly value of 10/. shall be entitled to vote in the election of a Member for such city or borough, unless such person shall have been rated for such premises to all poor -rates, nor unless the poor-rates and assessed taxes due on or before the 6th of April, shall have been paid on or before the 20th of July. Greenwich, like most parishes, is, with with respect to its poor, &c., under a Local Act. Under this Act, the Vestry are empowered to farm houses, rented under 101., at a rate cor responding to one-half of the rent; and houses rented from 101. to 151. at a rate corresponding to two-thirds of the rent. The object of this power was to facilitate the collection of the rates on low-rented houses, by giving the landlord a fair consideration for his taking the risk and trouble on himself. This was, of course, well it:tended ; but Englishmen, from the highest to the lowest, are too familiar with jobbing, not to avail themselves of every opening through which advantage can be gained. The Senior Church warden and other influential men in the Vestry soon turned the liberty to farm to a very dif7 rercnt account from that which was contemplated )3, the framers of the Act. They discovered in it the means of exempting their own properties from rates, by which an increased burden was thrown on the properties of others. By becoming extensive farmers of rates, an immense number of houses of the value of 101. and upwards, are not rated to the occupants, who are thereby disfran chised. According to the returns to the Parlia mentary Commissioners, there are in the parish of Greenwich, 1,366 houses at 10/. and upwards rated ; 944 rated at less than 101., but of the value of 10/. 2,310 houses giving the elective franchise. But of the above 944 houses of the value of 101., no fewer than 550 are farmed, and, conse quently, the occupants not being rated, can have no vote. By way of showing the use that may be made of farming by those who wish to re duce the electors to a manageable nwmber, we shall notice what has been done in Greenwich already. The whole number of houses charged in the rate books ie 3,880 Of the above there are farmed 1,901 Being nearly a moiety 1,979 This operation of ffirming will be extended of course, if not checked, when the motive of Parliamentary management is added to the natural desire which has hitherto been so power :ul, to cheat the parish. We may observe that :he expos" of Mr. Badger on Friday last, at a meeting of the rate :payers, will probably check the career of the parish governors for the present. 1 committee of fifteen, with the Rev. Mr. Mat- thews, the vicar, at the head, were appointed to irquire into and report, within a fortnight, the ,tale of things in the parish. But other parishes, we doubt not, are in the same situation. Ves ries and other parochial bodies must be deprived it' all discretionary power of the nature of that which we have alluded. We cannot use these remarks without adding a few taiticulars, illustrative of the motives of the l eading individuals of the ve.-Ary o Green wich for farming the rates. In order to make ourselves undenitool, we must first observe that in most parishes the rental entered always differs more or less from the actual rental. The reasons (or continuing these differences are va rious. One is, that as county Lites, Sze., are charged according to the rating for the poors rate, each parish is afraid, if it were iairly rated to the poor, it would pay more than other pa rishes towards the county rates, &c. In Green wich parish, a 6s. Bd. rate is equivalent to 4s. on the rack rent. To simplify the matter, we take the actual rent and the actual rate of four shillings, and show how much the following in individuals have withheld from the parish. Mr. IVlnze, senior churchwarden:— Withheld Rent. Actually pays. Per 11. from Parish, I House £l2 12 0 £0 13 4 £0 I 1 X 1 6 8 1 Do. 20 0 U 213 0 02 0 20 0 1 Do. 50 0 01 9 6 8 0 2 1 S 13 4 1 Do. 40 0 0 11 Do. 69 0 0 5 0 0 0 1 5 2 0 3 5 Do. 58 4 8 313 4 0 1 3 2 3 6 Xl6 3 9 This is pretty well for on e . A no ther leading man in the vestry, Mr. Wm. Smith, possesses houses of the rent of 1481. 65., for which he pays 131. Bs. 11d., being is. 9, 1 2 -d. per 11., gain ing from the parish 241. ls. ld. Another lead ing man, Mr. George Smith, has a house of Mt, which pays 81.65. Bd., leaving 111. 13s. 4d. We give this as a sample of the glaring partiality of these worthy functionaries in iltvour of them selves. Some of them firm as many as seventy four houses, to their own great gain, and the great loss of the rest of the parish. While these jobbers are thus partial to themselves, the houses of others are rated at nearly the rack rent, and consequently pay considerably more than four shillings in the pound on the actual rent. But our motive for entering into these details is not so much to show the jobbing of the Vestrymen of Greenwich—for parochial jobbing in England is too general to he thought anything of—but to draw attention to the mode in which the inhabitant householders are thereby disfranchised. The subject is well deserving of attention.— Morning Chronicle. It is impossible not to perceive how much the fair consideration and ultimate adoption of almost every public measure are impeded by means of the jaundiced party medium through which they are almost uniformly met by the op ponents of those who suggest them. This is strikingly the case on the much-agitated subject of tithes in Ireland. Judging from the way in which this affair is treated by those who'are op posed to the present Ministerial mode of settle ment of it, a stranger might be led to suppose that it was entirely a new and temporary evil, which, instead of increasing in magnitude, would in a short time, if let alone, quietly subside and die away. Yet how opposite this is to the truth no man of the commonest observation can for a moment hesitate to affirm. We are as anxious to defend the sacred rights of property as its warmest supporters can be ; but to talk of a cournutation of tithes being an invasion of property, is to libel and stultify the proceedings of every Par liament for more than the last half century, not a Session of which has ever elapsed without enclosure and other Bills, dealing with tithes as a subject of change, of limitation, and of ex tinguishment, almost without (if we except that of the celebrated Bishop Horsley) a single word of opposition. Yet now, when they are become in their present state an evil too intolerable to be borne, an attempt to do that upon a large scale which has been over and over again tacitly submitted to and sought for in individual cases, is taken up as an inroad upon and vio lation of vested rights, which party zeal will not allow to be attempted. To those who read the signs of the times with any thing like the eye of experience and observation this must appear to be the most unwise and inconsistent course which persons who profess to reverence existing institutions can adopt. Instead of being alarmed at the attempts to alter the nature of Church property, and thereby place it upon a secure and lasting footing, the real apprehensions of such persons should, especially as regards Ireland, be, whether the remedy proposed does not come too late. We hope that it does not; but are, at the same time, fully convinced that, if any longer delayed, it would. It is the fashion to lay 11:e whole of the opposition to tithes in Ire-- land at the door of the Catholics ; whereas the truth is, that it is in a great measure the cupidity of landlords, most of whom are Protestants, to which the real blame ought to attach. Exact ing, as they have done, more rent than a tithe free estate in England could be made to pro duce, no wonder that the occupier, exhausted in this way, finds it impossible to find means of satisfying additional demands. In any arrange ment, therefore, that takes place, we trust that care will be taken that the landlord is no longer allowed to enrich himself out of a property which, to whomsoever it may belong, clearly does not belong to him. If the Protestants' spiritual wants of Ireland alone are looked to, such a reform of the Church Establish ment might probably take place as, after amply rewarding all the working clergy, might put much of the present ecclesiastical property in abeyance. But, be this as it may, and whether a new distri bution of that property take place, or not, there can now be no real question in any reasonable mind, but that the sources from whence it has hitherto issued must be either wholly changed or greatly modified,—Morning Herald. We have often adverted to the ambitious de signs which Russia has upon Greece, and the profligate policy which the late Capo d'lstrias, his brother Constantine, and other creatures of the Cabinet of St. Petersburgh, have pursued in that country, which suffers more from Muscovite in trigue than it did from Turkish despotism. We have always regarded the appointment of the beardless youth Prince Otho, of Bavaria, to the throne of that nominal kingdom, as a Russian contrivance, to mask the political intentions which the Cabinet of St. Petersburgh entertain with regard to Greece, but which are not yet ripe for execution. Under the appearance of an inde pendent Prince, the school-boy Sovereign is meant to be nothing more than a Russian satrap, supported by the influence, and, if necessary, the arms of Russia, until such time as the Au tocrat of the North thinks it prudent to put an cnd even to a state of nominal independence in Greece, and incorporate that country, like Po• Lind, by force of an insolent ukase, with his barbarian empire. In order to bring about the o bj ec t which she had in view, Russia has per petually fomented internal dissensions and civil war in Greece, both to give her minions in authority opportunities to cut off the most patriotic Greeks, and also to furnish the pretext i)t- preventing the Greek peopl e f rom being allowed by the Allied Powers to form a govern !lent of their own—and unless , i n d ee d , they i:re allowed to choose their own Government, hey had better not have been severed from ; for a Government forced upon them by !,reign influence, will never have the confidence , 1 the nation, and will only give rise to new commotion , , and their calamitous results. In (3-recce, as well as in Poland, our liberal Go vernment has been not only subservient. to tha ambitious designs of Russia, but has brought upon this over-taxed country, new pecuni ary obligations, in promotion of the Autocrat's views of aggrandisement. We do not won der that the Chancellor of the Exchequer spoke in " 'bated breath and whispering gentleness," the other night, when the Marquess of Chandos put the interrogatory, whether England, France, and Russia, were parties to a treaty which gua ranteed the throne of Greece to Prince Otho, and also made them securities for the payment of the interest on a loan of 2,000,0001. to be raised for the maintenance of his dignity, and the necessities of his kingdom. Though the Chancellor of the Exchequer spoke in so low a tone as not to lie heard in the gallery, we under stand his answer to this important question was in the affirmative. Thus Ministers, not satisfied with having endeavoured to saddle this country, which cannot pay its lawful debts, with 5,000,0001. sterling, have entered into a stipula tion to make it responsible for the payment of 2,000,000/. more, both sums being, the one di rectly, and the other indirectly, for the advance ment of Russian ambition. Thus a dishonour able peace costs us the expenses of a war.— Will the country tolerate this ?—Morn. Herald. F N tryy e -7vT _1 3_ ___ 0 SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. PERIALPARLIAMENT THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. PIGOTT presented a petition from the parish of Hockeridge, i❑ the county of Norfolk, complaining of abuses in the poor laws, and praying that a Bill be intro duced to remedy them. Mr. A. PELHAM presented a petition from an asso • ciation of Unitarians, in favour of the Government plan of education in Ireland. Mr. J. BROWN presented two similar petitions from parishes in the county of Mayo. Colonel GORE LANGTON presented a petition from the Coroners of the county of Someret, praying for an increased allowance under the Bill now before the House. At present the allowance was but 1/. for each inquest, no matter how many days it lasted. Mr. HEYWOOD presented a petition from twenty eight Protestant Dissenting Ministers of the Presbyterian and Unitarian denominations, in the counties of Lancaster and Chester, in favour of the plan of education in Ire land, and a petition from a parish in the county of Lan caster against the Bill for the removal of Scotch and Irish paupers. Mr. SANDFORD presented a petition from the parish of Martoch, in the county of Somerset, praying the House to take the unhappy condition of the Poles into consideration. Colonel GORE LANGTON, in supporting the pet tion, slid he felt the utnyist horror and indignation at the conduct of Russia—(Hear)—and be hoped the petition would meet with attention. Mr. GRANBY CALCRAFT presented a petition from certain Protestant Dissenters in the borough of Wareham, complaining that by the existence of certain oaths, and the 39 Articles, they were excluded from the honours of the Universities of Oxford zinc! Cambridge. Mr. MOORE O'FERRALL presented several petitions from various parishes in the county of Kildare, praying for the abolition of tithes, and one from the parish of St. Bride, in the City of Dublin, regarding a new valuation of property in Ireland. Mr. SADLER presented a petition from the journeymen block-makers in Lancashire, in favour of the Factories' Regulation Bil'. Mr. O'CONNELL presented three petitions from Mac clesfield,. the Greenwich Political Union, and the North Western Political Union, in favour of a more extended measure of Reform for Ireland ; also a petition from the Greenwich Political Union, in favour of the Government plan of education in Ireland, and praying that the expense be defrayed out of the ecclesiastical benefices, and one from the Catholic and Protestant inhabitants of the pa. rishes of St. Michael and St. Bride, in the City of Dublin, in favour of the same plan. The petitions were all read and ordered to be printed. The Hort. MEMBER. also presented a petition from the Reform As,ociation of Manchester, praying for an hives tigation into the case of Somerville. A 3 his Majesty's Go vernment had pledged thrmselves to institute au inquiry into the subject, he should not move the printing of the petition. The HON. MEMBER also presented petitions from the Fishermen of the county of Dublin, praying to be allowed bounty, on account of their distress ; from Waterford, for the better appropri ition of Church Property. The Horr. MEMBER gave notice of his intention to pre sent to-morrow a petition, complaining of the mahadmi nistration of justice at the late Special Commissions in Ireland, by the exclusion of Catholics from the Jury. Mr. HUME presented two petitions from St. Andrew's, Holborn, and St. George the Martyr, against the Bill for the removal of Scotch and Irish vagrants. Seeing the Hon. Member for Nottingham in his place, he wished to know if it was his intention to persevere with the Bill this Mr. DENNISON said he did not intend to press the Bill in any other shape than it was at present during this Session. The question was of so much importance to the counties of England in general, who were so burdened by the operation of the present law, in which such abuses existed, that if he did not press the subject in this, he certainly should in the next Session. Mr. STRICKLAND was sorry that the Hon. Member had not stated more distinctly what his intentions were. He hoped he would state positively that he did not intend to proceed with the measure in the present session. Mr. DENNISON said, that unless he found Govern ment would undertake to make some recommendation for the insertion of a clause to lessen theJiabilities of parishes in England to support casual poor, he could not entirely undertake to withdraw the measure for the present session. Mr. HUME presented petitions from Hounslow, against the Privilege of Parliaruerat Bib ; from Mr. Charles Poutney, of Manchester, praying for the liquida tion of his claims on the French Government; from the Company of Merchants, Edinburgh, for an alteration of the Annuities Act ; from Dundee, against the Bill for the repeal of the duties on Stage Carriages, and imposing new taxes on railway and steam carriages. The Hon. Member also presented petitions from the National Political Union, the Council of the Bradford Political Union, and the Glasgow Reform Association, praying for the institution of an inquiry into the case of Somerville, the discharge of Major Wyndham, and the remuneration of Somerville. The Hon. Member then presented a petition, signed by Sir John Pollock, A. Spiers, and 11. Wallace, - E•q., magistrates of Renfrewshire, praying for an inquiry into the Scotch Law System. Mr. DUNDAS hoped that the Lord Advocate would do no such thing as was here asked of him. A Commis sion had been appointed by the late Government, and the Commissioners had reported that the salaries of the law officers of Scotland were as low paid as possible. It would only be attended with a great deal of expense to the public, without in the end doing any good. Mr. HUME said it might be that the Law Officers were low paid in Scotland—but the manner in which business was done in the inferior Courts was such ns to cause a great deal of unnecessary expense. Even had he not known this fact from Isis own knowledge, he would implicitly have believed it upon the word of three gentle men who signed the petition, whom he knew to be most respectable and diligent magistrates. The HON. GENTLEMAN then presented petitions, prav imo; for the abolition of tithes, from the Roman Catholic siihaliitants of Dungarvon, Donegal, Cullen, and the pa of Cumber, County Down ; from the Council of the tl,thnal-green Union, against taxes on knowledge; from Manchester, praying that the funds at present at the die po•al of the hierarchy in Ireland might be taken to liqui .late time national debt, and that tithes might be abolished; mod from several persons confined for selling unstamped p4pers, praying the House to take their case into conside ration. • Lcnl MEXBOROUGH presented a petition from the a rg y of Leeds against the new system of education in Ireland. Lord KILLEEN presented a petition from four parishes ~ t h e county of Meath against tithes. H. GRATTAN supported the prayer of the petition. Sir R. FERGUSON presented a petition from Lon .,ntler:y against the punishment of death for forgery. Captain BAILEY presented a petition from Gloucester tinst the Vagrant Bill. Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition frum 11, NVLI- Esq and other l‘lagistr it": 3 of Renfrewshire, rclativ t o the currency. Mr. PAGET wished to take that opportunity of stv log that he entirely concurred in the prayer of the peta tioners. The question was one of great importance, ao one which would branch out into so many stems, that .o fared it would be quite impossible to settl, it, and give it that consideration to which it was entitled, this Session. However, he would entreat the Noble Chancellor of the Exchequer on no considerations to listen to any proposal for allowing a reissuing of lt notes—and he hoped that he would never again change the currency of the country trom gold to paper, but would strictly adhere to the course which hid placed the country on a firm basis. The RON% BARONNT then presented a petition from John Fenimore, praying for further compensation, in soar• equence of the loss he bad sustained in the army, and be cause be had been the means of finding out great frauds that were practised on Government in pensions, by which the country had saved a large sum. 3lr. EUME could not but say a word or two in behalf of this individual, who had previously been serge int srmourer in the 10th dragoons, and in consequence of whose exertions a great saving of unnecessary public ex penditure in that department had been effected. The Gallant Officer the then Secretary at War had undoubt edly given him some compensation, and sent him to the Swan River; but in consequence of some misfortunes which he had met with there, he had now been necessi tated to return and make the present appeal. He hoped that the war department would look into the case and render him sonic assistance. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the Church wardens and Overseers of the Ward of Crippleg,:ite- Within, against the Bill intruduced by the Hon. Alemher for Nottingham. Mr. H. GRATTAN presented a petition from an indi vitinal, relative (as We understood) to unattached Corn niissions. Mr. RUTUVEN and Sir H. HannINGE regretted very touch that the sale of unattached eommissiops had been relinquished in consequence of the private determination of the late Secretary at War. It was, he considered, a great detriment to the public service, and was injurious to the Naval Officers. It was to be hoped that, as it was quite within the comp tea of the Right Hon. Gent. (Sir J. C. Hobhouse) to return to the former practice, he would con sider the matter, and be induced to take a course which would not only promote the efficiency of the public ser vice, but be most favourable to the officers of the army. Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE said he would attend to the suggestion which had been thrown out. Mr. HUME regretted much that the Right Hon. Ba ronet had stated his willingness to attend to the sugges tion. The sale of unattached commissions had been a fruitful source of much injury to the service, and the pro motion it encouraged was that merely of young men to the head of regiments who had seen no service whatever. Mr. H. GRATTAN then presented several petitions against the tithe system in Ireland. A MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS Announced that their Lordships had agreed to the Zemindar of Nezeed Bill. Mr. STANLEY moved the Order of the Day fur the House to resolve into Committee on the IRISH REFORM BILL. Mr. DUNDAS did not wish to prevent the House from going into the regular business of the evening, hut he was anxious to know whether Government intended to proceed with the Bribery Bill? There was a system going on in the northern part of the kingdom which was directly in opposition to of that measure, and he hoped it would be pereervered in. - - Mr. STANLEY said that at that late period, the Go vernment could not pledge themselves to bring it through during the present Session. Mi.. O'CONNELL move4Jor a return of two circular letters which bad been written by the Right Hon. Gen tleman opposite, the Under Secretary for Ireland, to the Deputy Lieutenant of the County of Clare. Mr. STANLEY said that the first letter bad been rather inaccurately worded, and hid led to some mistake ; he was, therefore, Wad of that early oppor tunity of stating, that the second had been written for the purpose of correcting it. It was not meant that the De ptity-Lieutenant in the county had any jurisdiction, except as a Magistrate, over the Magistrates or Constables. The returns welt tilt!' agreed to. Mr. HUME complained that certain papers which bad been moved for on the 18th April and 24th May, respect ing General Darling, had not yet been laid before the House, and he moved that they be ordered forthwith.— Agreed to. IRISH REFORM BILL. The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the Reform in Parliament (Ireland) Bill, Mr. BERNAL in the Chair. Mr. D. BROWNE rose to move as an amendment an addition to the county representation of five Members, and, in order to make room for that addition, to disfranchise certain small boroughs. He was far from wishing to depreciate the merits of the Bill, and he was determined in proposing his amendments, to adhere as close as possible to the principles of the Bill as interpreted by his Majesty's Ministers, and further lie was not anxious to increase the whole number of Members of the House. He thought, however, that the adding 5 Members to the 105 for Ireland, and 2 to the number for Scotland, would give general satisfaction. He should propose an additional number of 5 for Ireland, and he be lieved that would give satisfaction in that coun try. In Ireland there were ten boroughs which bad less than three hundred 101. householderss,—those bo roughs were Portarllmgton, New Ross, Enniskillen, Ath lone, Bandon, Mallow, Colerain, Duncannon, Carlotv, and Ennis; while in the English Bill thane but three bo roughs that had less than 300 101. voters, and of those one had 298 and adothe 299. The Hon. Member having stated the slumber of voters in each of the ten boroughs, proposed that the five smallest should be disfratichisrd, viz. Portarlington (185 voters), Mallow (200 voters), New Ross, Enniskellan, and Bandon, in each of which there were no electors, even at the present time.— (Hear, hear.) Portarlington really, now, had but one voter, New Ross only 20 voters, Enniskellen several resident voters, but one person returned the Member; Bandon was a joint borough between two noblemen, and Mallow was a close borough. His next proposition was to give a third Alember for the county of Mayo, which had a population of 367,000) the county of Donegal had j a population of 298,000, and yet in those two counties, there were no boroughs, and they only returned two Members each. The third case was that of the city of Dublin, containing a population of 250,000 inhabitants, and yet it returned but two Members. There were not less than 14,000 qualified 101. householders in that city. It would give great satisfaction if one Member was added to Dublin. He understood that the Hon. Member for Downpatrick interded to propose the addition of two Members ; but he would take on himself to say, that adding one, would give great satisfaction to Ireland. The county of Cork contained '700,000 inhabitants, and returned only two county and four borough Mem bers. He thought it better to divide that county into two Riding,, each sending two Members. The other boroughs which he intended to disfranchise, were towns in agricultural districts, for the purpose of throwing then mean to the counties, giving to the persons living in their towns the right of voting for the counties, instead of having a distinct constituency for themselves. The Hon. Member concluded by moving the introduction of claims into the Bill, to the effect of disfranchising Portarlington, New Roes, Mallow, Bandon, and Enniskillen, for the pur pose of adding to the county representation, and Athlone, Duncannon, Coleraine, Ennis, and Carlow, for the purpose of increasing the representation generally throughout Ireland. Mr. J. BROWN seconded the motion. M. STANLEY opposed it, and was left speaking. HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR did not take his teat on the Woolsack till Twenty minutes before Six. The House was then occupied in the presentation of petitions. (LEFT SITTING). CONIMISSION OF LUNACY. (Continue;] from from The Sun of Saturday) MISS BAGSTER'S CAsE. l Mr. Gor e , an executor o f Alderman Crowder, t o t h e i m b ec ili ty o f Miss Bagster. Doctor Monroe, senior sal l : a , s hh t ioctiiir ai Saturday. ii dvea not h a i f I , took Ilispital for 16 years--I have all my life directed physician to Bethlehem i o t u r r ig r i e: liy attention to lunacy and insanity; I have been ippointed by the Court of King's Bench to see Aiss Bagster; about iome trifling ne. On the first occasion, Dr. Macmichael and l 'emained with c r, :ta r i trnan:tetiese conceive ea out. in,ne re rt,o which lhoi : c v ki a l s sno, s a t ys r e u rl c yu k yi toewuintgili, childish; t her l, o 11 7 11 i: h p l e rn sawc i a l o n n il° tet notes ;, w her on the .sth of May t; , hel a i n .ed d ,:js on ls 1 oltitleihe think 7th : a ir s e l m 6 e o ly r d l7 irn y il e m a t r i s ve o , f l a ) g ut e ilvnt of person as would lead me to thi a nk (.vel‘ r th;tt , le hat I should be introduced to her in my true ca- pacity. I asked her if she had not lately gone g very long journey ? She replied in the affirmative. —(Here the witneg detailed the setting off of the ,tarries from the Zoological Gardens, as already stated.) When it became dark on the journey, she became very much alarmed ; they returned some distance, but she was prevailed upon to renew the journey; she told me the object of the journey was to go very fast a long way I inquired if she was married at the end of the journey ? She replied she did not know whether it was a marriage or a farce. In my judgment she was wholly un conscious of matrimonial duties. It was so clear a case, that Dr. Macmichael and I doubted whether we need see her again, but we thought it right to go on the 7th ; on that day she gave us the same account of the transaction as before. She is de cidedly of unsound mind ; she is not in any degree fit to take care of herself, or of her property. I should not call her idiotic or lunatic, but I should describe the state of her mind as that of extreme imbecility. Many insane persons have excellent memories. I have not known iml ecile patients have good memories, but the power of learning language to the extent that Miss Bagster knew French, is consistent with what is called imbecility. The Commissioners and the Jwy (at half-past three) retired from the Court to the Judge's-room , for the purpose of seeirg the young lady whose case formed the subject of inquiry. She was accont , panied by her mother and Mr. Alderman Kelly. She is remarkably slight and short, and from her appear ance no person would deem her to be above lo or 16 years of age. The private examination con tinued until a few minutes to six. The Commis sioners, on returning to the Court, directed the wit nesses to be in attendance on Monday, to which day the proceedings were adjourned. Miss Rig.- ster, in returning to her carriage, held down her head. The blinds were instantly put up, and the horses started ()fiat a rapid rate. A great number of Mr. Newton's friends were at the private en trance of the King's Banch, to obtain a glimpse of her person. OLD BAILEY SESSIONS, JULY 7. NEW COURT. Anne and Jane Ginger were severally indicted for feloniously stealing, in the parish of Staines, plate and wearing apparel, the property of the Rev. Robert Govet. The prisoners were both excessively interesting young women, and most tastefully attired. From the moment they entered the culprit's box they never ceased shedding tears abundantly. They i:leaded guilty. The prosecutor recommended them to mercy on two grounds—first, that it was their first offence, and secondly, that he had received a good character with them. Captain Beechey, R.N., the celebrated navigator and writer of travels, gave them also an excellent character, for they had been in his service, and con ducted themselves in the most exemplary way. He thought it would be a great pity if they were mixed up with abandoned women, for there were in Court two respretable young men who were ready to marry them. Under these circumstances they were dis charged, and very seriously cautioned by the LEARNED SERGEANT as to their future conduct in life COUNTRY CORN MARKETS Per Quarter. ilexham Penrith Sheffield. Winchester Per Bushel. Carmarthen Coventry --- Newcastle (Staff.) Northallerton Stone.------.. Swansea Warwick . Per 8011. Barnardcastle Durham Richmond.. Stockton DURING LAST WEEK. Wheat. j Barley. S. to S. 60 60 70 63 66 S. to s. 36 42 33 :36 65 56 65 32 35 s.d. s.d. s.d. s.d. 63 70 38 40 70 90 48 54 96 98 64 66 70 93 36 46 98 99 56 60 79 83 40 43 90 100 46 50 169 180 90 100 149 IS 0 90 106 160 18 11 96 100 150 163 96 100 Oats. S. to S. 22 27 20 25 22 22 24 s. d. s. d. 18 20 36 40 34 39 33 40 38 47 24 28 22 26 Beans. B. 8. 41 - 33 36 64 70 50 76 50 70 64 70 39 42 46 s. d. r. d. 00 00 56 60 5 0 56 56 60 62 66 00 00 73 76 0 0 11 0 10 0 10 6 86 100 00 00 :WAKEFIELD CORN MARKET.-July 6. Wheat, Red, Norfolk and Suflblk -s. 535. to 61s. fine 645. Lin. and Cam. -s. 5:35. to 61s. fine 645. -- Yorkshire -s. s'7s. to 625. fine 645. ---- White -s. 595. to 655. fine 675. - Foreign, Red -s. 48s. to 565. fine 625. White -s -s. to -s. fine 665. Barley, Norfolk and Suffolk 32s. to 345. fine 375. - Lincolnshire 3is. to 395. fine 40s. - Yorkshire Wold - Foreign -s. to -a. fine -s. Beans, Small --lick '33s. to 345. fine 35s Oats, Potato 22s. to 245. fine 255. - I'oland -s. 20s. to 235. fine 245. - Friezland and Small -s. 17s. to 2.25. fine 235. - Mealing I Id. to 12 1 4 d. per Stone. Shelling 2ss. to-28s. Od. per Load. Malt 34s. 435. fine 465. per Load. -... ... Rapeseed.... 231. Os. 251. Os. 271. Os. 'per Las t. SCOTCH MARKETS. Wheat. Barley Oats. I Beans. Oatmeal. Aberdeen 50 58 23 29 IS 22 30 31 46 49 22 24 15 17 22 24 34 37 Coldstream 45 50 22 26 15 IS '22 Cupar tiS 70 30 34 23 23 28 29 Dundee 70 74 34 35 2<3 26 29 30 Elgin 60 62 28 30 18 20 23 30 Inverness.... 57 60 30 32 20 24 23 30 48 Kelso 48 50 24 27' 17 18 23 25 K irkaldy.„--.. 40 45 27 39 25 32 45 48 43 44 I'erth 65 72 30 35 24 27 26 30 The size of the measure varies throughout the ceuntrv. EDINBURGH CORN MARK We had a middling supply of all kinds of Barley ; the sales very heavy, and a good Wheat. Barley. Oats. First 74s Od 37s ('d 9.6 s Od Second 678 Od 36s Od 24s Od Third 6os Od 343 ea 20s Od El'.—July f Grain to-i deal unsold 1 Pease. 35s Od 33$ Od 29s Od 43 44 ^ ,untr v. 4. say, except Beans. 35: Oct 3.3 s Od 29s Od PRICES OF PROVISIONS, Itc. Beef, per lb. .., N. 4d. to Os. 7d. Freshßutter, lb. 05.9,1. to Is. Od. 0 5 0 7 Salt Ditto—....— 0 8 010 Veal , 0 4 0 7 Ditto, per cm t. 068 74 0 Pork.. 0 4 0 6 Eggs, per doz. 0 7 0 0 Lamb, per qr. 1 6 4 0 OatStraw(kpl.)lo 0 10 6 Fallow, cwt. —.35 6 37 0 Wheat Ditto..l2 0 13 0 Quartern Loaf 0 9 010 Barley Ditto 9 0 9 6 Potatoes. 1711 b. 0 5 0 0 Hay, per st. 1 I 2 L MARKET.--July 3 his day's market was middling, prices. Per Stone of l4lb. Imp. First Oatmeal £0 2 0 Second ditto Barleymeal 0 1 10 Peasemeal 0 I 8 .-2,1, 15s:-mod, 20s. —l' ea t I 248. I MARKET.—JuIy 4. tll, and prices a shade lower. Oats, per 2641 b. s. d. s. d. Irish l6 Oto 18 0 British 0 -- Beans, per 2601 b. English Scottish Pease, Scottish Oatmeal, per 1401 b l5 0 17 0 Flour, per 2801 b 43 0 48 0 EIMNBURGH MEA The supply of Oatmeal at t and sold heavily, at last week's Per Sack of 2801 b. Imp. First Oatmeal £1 18 0 Second ditto 1 16 0 Barleymeal 1 173 0 Peasemeal 1 6 0 Pot Barley—No. 1, per cwt. 13: GLASGOW COR Our Grain market is rather dt IVheat, per 2401 b. s. d. s. d. British, old 25 0 to 30 0 new Canada, free 26 0 30 0 Irish Barley, per 3201 b. English 0 C Scottish 2B 0 30 0 Irish IN. CA—Oats, N. sd. to 6d.—Pork, 0,1. to 4 0 0 """ Taufto—Wheat—Al3l„itiCEilli,—s. to 12s..—Oatsr ST. AusTELL—Wheat, —s. to 255.--" 04. to Ss. Od. PENZANCE—Wheat, 245. t o O B s u . t t t o er l , oB 9 . d o: (average) 21s. 01.—Barley,11s. 3(l.—Oat 0. LAUNCESTON—Wheat .6d. 7s 01—Beef, sd.—Mutt "._ -- .. d . t .. t .: : to 225. Od.—Barley 11 6,1.0at5, O s , 9. Os• LISS EARDW"ea` , to 7s. 6d. Wheat (average) 245. Od.--Barley, 12s. Od.—oats, Ss• BODMIN. HELSTON~•wheat, 255. Od.—Barleyo 13s. 6d. HELSTON.--• Wheat, 248. to 255. - -.Barl 11 to Barley, s. 12s.—Beef , S•r. CoLurao-- 6:1 —Ve sd. to . al, Od.--Lanib, Od. Mutton, and li,e—Beef Mutton, MI NINC INT ELLI GENCE. Tons. Or' Quanti ty Copper Ore sold atlledruth last Thurday 3,324 u Quantity of fine 271 12 0 00-I.lBs. 01 —Average Standard, 1074 10s. Amount Average oPfrsaolueic2eo—......c BOTANICAL CURIOSITY.—There is at pre' s nt a plant of the Agara Americana at Drummond Castle, which is coming into flower. It is of rare occur rence in this country.-- aledonian Mercury. On the 6th inst. Mrs. J. (ay, ofof a daughte r. East Dulwich, BIRTS. On the Ist i nst. i n Upper rooting, the lady of the late Isaac lliggin, Esq., o f a daughter. MARRIED. On the 7th inst. at St. Maaret's Westminster, Charle s , se cond son of Mr. E vans , o f Fall-mall,' to Anne Wyndham, eldest ( laughter of S. A. Leeks, Esq., of Fludyer.street, Whitehall. DIED, Lately, at Perth. Mr. Daniel Seaton, of the Salutation Intl, Perth, and the Moncreiffe Arms, Bridge of Earn. On the 30th ult. at Bath, A. T. Sampayo, Esq., of Peter borough House, Fulham, in the 71st year of his age. On the Ist instant, at Lower Connaught -place, Mrs. Frances Scott, aged 76. On the 6th inst., in the 18th year of his age, after a long a nd patiently-endured illness, John Henry, second son of the Be v llenry Penny, of Upper Philli more-place, Kensington. On the 4th inst. at Forefield-place,Elizabeth, Bath, widow of the late Alexander Ector, Esq., of Ki ngston, Jamaica. PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY MURDO YOUNG, AT 113% SUN OFFICE, 112, STEAM LONDON.