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IMPERIAL PARLIAM ENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. FRIDAY, NOV. 6. A meet i ng took place at an early hour this day, and some private business was disposed of; after which the Peers present proceeded to St. James's, with the following Address to His MAJESTY' : " MOST GRACIOUS SOVEREIGN, " We, Your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjeas, the Lords Spirqual and Temporal, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to return your Majesty our most sincere.. Thanks for your gracious condescension in direaing the Preliminary Articles of Peace, which have been ratified by you; Majesty I:nd the French Republic, to be laid before this House. " We can assure your Majesty, that we have bestowed on them that . serious consideration which the important objets they embrace so justly demand; and we beg leave to express to your Majesty, with the most heartfelt gratitude, the satis t-attion we derive from this important a.rrangernent, which; while it manifests your Majesty'S justice and moderation, and the. regard and attention to good Faith Which have governed your Majesty's condua towards your Allies,' will, we are pursuaded, be praduaive of important national advantages, and promote the substantial interests of this Country." HIS MA].ESTY's Most Gracious ANSWER. " MY LQADS, " L thank you for this dutiful and loyal Address. " The .atisfaCtion you express at the foundation which haS been laid by the Preliminary Articles, for the final Re storation or Peace,. is highly acceptable to me; • and you may rest assured that I shall, on my part, use my utmost endea yours to bring this important transaaion to a conclusion, in such manner as may most effeCtually tend to promote and secure the Public Interests, and the welfare of my People." The House previously adjourned till Tuesday next ; w,hen their Lordships stand summoned to t into consideration the Convention between His MAJESTY and the EMPEROR of Rusin... HOUSE OF COMMONS. FRIDAY, NOV. 6. THE House net pursuant to their adjournment on Wednesday last, at half past me o'clock. Colonel BAGWEI.L mnved for a New Writ for the City of Cashel, in the room of RICHARD 13AG. WELL, Esq. who, since his Eldlion, had entered into Holy Orders. The SPEAKER said, that this appeared to him to be a case which required consideration. The first Clause of the At which passed last Session of Parliament, enaded, " That no person having been ordained to the Office of Priest or Deacon, should be capable of being eled.ed to serve in Parliament. Now the case in question certainly did not come within the meaning of that part of the Ad, because Mr. BAGWELL, at the period of his letion, cer, tainly was not in Holy Orders ; but there was a . proviso at the end of the Ad in question, which, in his opinion, would embrace this case. Perhaps, however, as this was a subjet of importance, it would be better to postpone the further consideration of it till Monday, and Gentlemen in the mean time might have an opportunity of considering the Ad. Mr. BR AGGE said he had no objeaion to post_ _pone the further consideration of the subjea, though he had no doubt but that it came within the mean ing of the A. It might, however, be worth while to consider what kind of evidence the House would require of the fart, - or whether they would, as in the case of the death of a Member, take the asser tion of another Member. The SPEAKER said, he had looked into this s.ubjea, and he found that the House had been con stantly in the habit of aeting upon the assertion of a Member, In the case of the death of 4 Member, there was no evidence of the fad but the assertion cf another Member. In the case of persons succeed ing- to Irish or Scotch Peerages,' there was no other evidence of the' fad but the statement of a Mem ber, because there was no Writ of Summons to call such Person up to the HouSe of Peers. He there fore apprehended that in this case the House would accept the same evidence that it did in other cases of a similar nature. • COLONEL BAVELL then moved to adjourn the Debate till Monday. He said he made the Motion because his Honourable Relative conceived, that having taken Orders he could no longer sit in Parliament ; but if the House were of a different opinion, his Honourable Relative would, he had no doubt, be happy to continue to sit among them, The di,eussion was pUt off till Monday, A new Writ was ordered for Portsmouth in the MOM of Lord HUGH SYMO UR. Lord STOPFQRD appeared at the Bar, and stated, that His M4jEsT had appointed a quarter before three as the time for receiving the Address of that House. The other Orders of the day were then postponed ivionday, and at half-past two the House ad journed till Monday, TO CORRESPONDENTS. ; We have received the Letter of BRIT AN:itcws, fr 0312 Sheer'ness tre rhould most ciealfugy, of course, give place, to any thing calculated to do justice to the HERO or 'THE NILE, but zve think that the anorcymoms attack of an infamous Assassin, is best answered either 4 y condign pu*sbr f tent, or the most marked con tempt. THE S U 11. 4o1A).1 gyis p;cltßz 110. sum wyps4T? LONDQN, NOVEMB4R 7, lgoit YESTE I:DAY the Committee appointed by the Ge, peral Body of Exchequer Bill Holders waited op the CHANgELLoa of the XCHEQUEg I on the proposal for funding the Exchequer Bills. A Meeting was ?fterwaida held of the cenetal. Body, at which Mr. CO UTT3 TROTTEa was placed in the Chair. He before the Meeting the result (If the conference y;ith the ClitAsic, t Lt o of the FlccHswiE4, lie ptta 4 tlig cro ve I lIPICM prOVOSC4 t 9 fuu4 $;500,0901, of Exchequrr Bills, In 3 per Cents. New 5 per' Cents:or in 4 per - Cents. jointly with Long .An. nuity, at the option of the Holders ; that previous to receiving any Proposals, the CHAWC ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had deemed it his duty to state, that the reports which had gone abroad of the wants of Government, had been much ex4ggerated, and that exclusively of the present operation, he did not con. ceive that the Geileral Loan to be agreed for, could amount to 20 Millions, if so much ; that no Loan would take. place. till after Christmas, and that, in the event of his not agreeing with the Exchequer Bill Holders, on the Plan now proposed, he should pay them off in money, to be raised by a Loan that he wished ,the Committee to wait upon him again on Wednesday next, at half past four o'clock, prepared with Proposals in the Funds above-men tioned:, and. that they should then also come pre_ pared . to treat for a further Sum of about 40 per Cent. on the amount of each Proprietor's Bills, to be applied to the Payment of about 2,400,0001. held by the Bank of England, which they were not inclined to fund. The installments to be made at the Bank, viz. -2s per cent. prompt-2s per cant.; on the .18th of December ; and so per cent, on the 224 of January, The Meeting, after taking the above information into consideration, resolved, that another Me.:.ting should be held on Wednesday next, at two o'clock, to consider of the Terms to be otfeted by the Bill Holders, The two Hamburgh Mad:, which were due ar.. rived, that which became due on Sunday, last night, and that due on Wednesday, this morning. In their contents there is little of importance, except the intelligence of the favourable dispositions of the Court of serlin to the removal of the causes of difference with this Country, The eva cuation of lianov4.,. by the Prussians is stated in the public artkies of the Mail to be near at hand; and our Private Letters go so far as to fix the day (the 6th inst,) on which the Troops were to com plete their, retreat,—This circumstance is the more agreeable, as the same Letter informs, that had the' War continued, 25,000 •French were to have suc ceeded the Prussians in the occupation of the Elec torate. Much of the intelligence by the Mails, like that brought by the Fre . nch Papers, relates to the New Batavian Constitution, which is commended not only for itc happiness which it promises to the Dutch Republic, but for its toleration of the Orange Party, As this Paper was on the point of being put to Press, we received Paris Papers to the 4th inst. They contain little that is important. Citizen Du. puts, formerly Intendant des Islfs de France, and de la Renni - on, is appointed Secretary of Legation for the Negotiations with this Country. Sr. CY R is named Ambassador of the Republic at Madrid. These Papers were brought over in a French Flag of Truce which arrived with Dispatches. OUR Readers will now have seen the different lines of argument which have been taken upon the discussion of the important Question of Peace in both Houses of Parliament ; and they will, we are satisfied, do us the justice to admit, that we had very fully stated the general reasoning which has been tirged by those who supported the measure.— The grounds on which those who opposed it argue, appear to us to be so weak, that we are surprized when we see such men as Lord GR ENV I L LE atld Mr. WINDHAM stand forward as the great Advocates in Patliament for the continuation of the War. We do not mean to confound the distind views of these eminent Statesmen, but we agree with neither. Lord GRENVILLE thinks that we have not got as much from France in Terms , as our relative situation en titled us to ; and Mr. WINDHAM seems to think it of very little consequence how much we got—the evil is, Peace with the present Government of France. It is hardly necessary to say, that of these two opinions we certainly think the first founded upon the most rational grounds ; but, at the same time, as our obje9 is Security, " grovel ling securio," as Mr. WINDHAM terms it, we hardly see how this objeEt could be materially ad vanced by the addition of Territory, either in the East or the West Indies ; and it is to this alone that Load GazNvILLE'S argument applies, as he does tot contend that we had the means of forming a Coalition on the Continent, or any other means of creating a counterpoise to the power of France. Giving, therefore, every possible weight to the argument of Lord GRENVILLE, we cannot see that his objeetion constitutes a ground upon which Mi nisters would have been justified in breaking off the 'Treaty, ,As to Mr. WINDHAM, we hardly know how to treat his argument seriously,' -If we exa oiinii. 'it respea; it is because'we respea him who 1A used it, ngt because we think the argument itself entitled to it-}4e would have carried on the War for the cban - ce of something turning lip in our favour—He would have prosecuted the War for no one specific objet, the means of attaining which he could point out, but in the hope that the Chapter cf Accidents might have produced something to our advantage. .He thinks that the Chances of War are not only•more favourable to us than the chances of . Peaci; but so much More favour able as to counterbalance- the difference of expence between trying the one and the other.. NoW, we differ from him so essentially, that, putting the great difference of expence (for great it must be, eVen - Vp(in' t the most reduced - scale of Defensive War), we are.. satisfied that the Chapter of Accidents;.. with a view' even to his favourite objea, a change of the Go. vernment of FranCe, is more under the pre sent circumstances and situation of Europe, to pro duce a new order of things in Peace' than in War f and that a,Military Government in. France is less likely to maintain itself when there is no' pressure, from a foreign Enemy, than when there is—unless; that pressure could be made by the co-operation of . a considerable force upon the Continent, which ap: pears now to be unattainable. ;Whether a change of Government in France would. now be for. the advantage of this Country, is at least doubtful ; that any thing which lessened the power of France would be desirable, nobody can deny.; but if cir. cumstances prevent our weakening the power of our Enemy, the next consideration is, to take the best means of strengthening ourselves, -It was upon this view that Ministers concluded the - Peace, and in so doing they judged wisely for the - Nation, We believe also, that those who so much . dreaded the enormous. power of France, are less apprehen ' sive than they were at first; they must have found, on refledion„ that we . have increased, even during the War, in all that constitutesStrength."T— , We have a Constitution which is endeired to us by every consideration, but never by any one more than.that it,appears, by, the - experience of the. lasii nine years during the French Revolution, to possess., within itself a principle of self.preservation— , that it can accommodate itself to:all dangers.and ties, and, as it was well exprels'ed vy Vora REACH, in the House of Commons; - thkt it eittn'ltt . all times afford to those who have the s haßpiness to live under it, as much liberty as is consistent with . public safety. In Franie, every thing -*hinging to its Government is experimental and precatiOut•i and when we are told we -are to be rivalled in . Trade and Manufathres by Franie,'We ask, where is the free Government which is to prate& them,? Where is the capital, where the spirit of enterprize, where are the habits and manners which are to courage them ? With us, every thing is 'ready— . with them all foundation is wanting:- We are far from trusting implicitly to the pacific intentions of BONAPARTE—We hope he has such intentions : at all events we ought to be upon our guard: but we cannot see why an Alarmist in this Country, under the influence of BR' SSOT and Roe - sr: ERR E, may not at least be less an Alarmist un der the milder and more rational Government of BONAPARTE. If he will not trust to the Chief Consul's disposition, he may trust something to his Interest ; but, above all, he may trust to the Pre cautions which it is evident His Majesty's Mini sters mean to take for the Welfare and Safety of the Country. IN the 'Report given in our Paper of yesterday, of the Speech of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex_, CHEQUER on Tuesday evening, there was a mis take which, because it is material, we are desirous to correa. We stated him to have said, " That we ought to adopt towards France. a condua of caution, of prudence, and ofiqousy r "—We should have stated, that " we ought to adopt a .line_df condua, not of su.9slcian and jealo' but of. pru,' dente and circumspethon." In another instance we have to mention a small mistake. The CHANCEL IOR of the EXCHEQUER said, ".;that he was ready to acknowledge that it depended upon the wisdom of Government, and of that - House, whether this Peace should be"—not a curse or a blessing, as stated in our Report of yesterday, but, "a bier sing or a misfortune," We are ever ready to cor red mistakes—upon the present occasion we do it with cheerfulness, because we have the satis. faetion of knowing our Reports 'to be generally corral. Yesterday morning His Serene Highness the PRINcg of ORANGE sailed from Yarmouth for Ham. burgh, in the Diana Packet, Capt. STEWARD. Hag MAJESTY and the PRINCESSES left Kew yesterday noon for Windsor. Hts MAJESTY cam; to St. James's Palace at half past one, and held A Levee, of Which were piesent the 'Right Rev. the Lord Bishops of ST, DAVID'S CH/CHESTER the Dukes of PORTLAND, ROX SIIRGH, ATHOL ; Earls CHESTERFIELD, WEST AItaLANDJ CHAT4AM A WRSTIARATH, CARLTON ; Lord Hon Arr, General Ft; LLAXTON, Coronel Fut.- LARToN, Sir J. PULTENE Y, Sir G. DALLAS, YR. JOHNSON, Mr. VANSITTART, a number of Noble Peers, and Members of the House of COmmons. HIS MAJ esTr received the Address of the tva) Houses of Parliament, which were presented by the Lord CeIANCELLOR and, the SPEAKER of the • House of Commons. -- • • • -- • General FULLARTON was at the Levee, for the first time this season, and presented his relation,. Colonel FuLLARTON. Lord CHATHAM, as Master General of the Ordnance, Mr. PITT, and also a number of the Noblemen, who attended at St. James's Palace yesterday, took, particular notice of the model of a turning moveable battery, invented by an inge nious artist of the-name of GILLESPIE, for the proteaion of the sea-coasts in the case of invasion; it was brought for His Majesty's inspeaion : the materials of the machinery are so constructed, .that the beaVy orslnarice can be direaed with the greatest facility, according• to the position of , the enemy; and so easy is : its process, that only five persons, who remain in perfeti safety in the machine, are required to do the duty. It is not true that Mr. DUNBAS has come up from the North. He remains in Scotland, we be lieve, till aftm Chiistrnas. Marquistoits*sits landed at Calais on Tues day evening- amid= a grand salute of artillery, the ringing of belfs;.a,general illumination of the town, and every possible demonstration of the public joy and resped. His Lordship was complimented immediately upon his landing by all the. Military and Civil Au thorities, and conduaed by them to the Hotel which had been prepared for his reception. His Lordship was to proceed to 4'65 at ten o'clock next morning, the vessel which brought over the Paris. Jour« nals, sailed on Wednesday morning from Calais with a number of passengers, but in consequence of tempestuous weather ; 'did not reach Dover until Thursday between one and two, " The communication by P,,ckets between Dover and Calais will probably soon be re-opened, the! Postmasters-Generathaving appointed Jo tiN PA y Ns, Esq. to be their Agent _to -the Packets at Dover. On and after• Tuesday next, the Mails for Ham. burgh, Bremen ] Scc,. will be forwarded from Hat., wich instead of :Yarmouth; and trie Mail of that day will go 4. the Prince of Orange Packet, Capt. 131'`I u rli G e E firs n td v i - v a i t : il io79 lv f icil. the or.z ester Militia, and • 4. A the last division of the North Lincoln, marches from FortsniCratirun - Thursd4 2 ,fOr their respediva CounOrsr - • RlSSeilen .arrived from_ Bengal per 4, 2 ,-/4, ir cer, •• Captpin 'll<kg,t. Es RAirr, Commander ; , • —trettt;inanvedlonel David Woodburn; 'Honourablq East ; India Company's Eite.4li4nnent. Captain Alexander 'CAlttivel4 'ditto; 'ditto,: ditti) ; Mra. Caldwell. Captains .ch A kie‘Whitc anti. 1. 14,. Rind, Honourable East India Coßtllany's Natitie Intuntry. Captain ToUiaS Smoi" Jett, His Ma . esty's 7801 •Rtgiinent.' Captain K ,„ wey •Licutctiant Chhrles : Poatccsbn, His Majesty's 29111 Light J),_,T; Koons. Lieuten.int Al4,ihtler Honourable, "; India Company's Na:ivc bitantry. F raser , AssiSta" Suwon, lion 9 urable .ast India Coilipan ) "s St t rvi,,e. B. Wyatt; Writer, Bengal Establishment. Miss - . Artne. ii: N ki t nan. Miss I. kind, Ml,ster K. Rinti, Mastero - Steverisi - •ar t ti Master J. Kelly. Capt. putcrtc; Lite of 0 14 ' Mahrrtic French Privateer, Made his escape'Lli b oa rd an I car, whet; lying at St. Helena'; and tiiree snare French NaNak °Ricers. • • - It-must be a great satisfaaion to •the Public r°,. 'know, that notwithstanding the vast importation o f Y'rovisitms,. whit:ll'so materially contributed to re lieve the distress. arising from the late scarcity, Yc.C. :from the judicious system on which the Bounty 1 05 granted, and other salutary arrangements made by , Government, the exrence to the Public Revenue . will prove much less than has generally been !posed. -It has been• often stated at near three In i r lions, but we have the best authority for saying it will not much exceed half a million, In one stance, the died has been remarkable • The quan tity of Rice lately arrived, or soon expeded the East Indies, is so large, and so much exceeds. the consumption of this Country in any time of or" dinary plenty, that it was expeaed by the b esc judges to sell for no more than ics. or 2s. per ° yr ' and consequently that the Government (who are obliged to make up the price to 355.) would have to pay from 'zzs. to zss.,for every cwt. But this was .not the only evil, tOr so low a price was likely t° discourage all future importatiOn of the article. But by taking off the prohibition of the t xportatioo of Rice, so much aftivity has been given to the trade by purchases for Foreign Markets, that the price ;at the • East-India Company's sa l e y e s terdaf 'was about '2ss. per . .cwt. making a sa v ing t° G h l2 ; VcTllijlekll.Ol more than half the Bounty, while t Public .are secured in an ample- supply of that useful article, at a very . reasonable price.. In consequenee- of a gang of Smugglers -havi n i r; fired with slugs on a party of the Derbyshire ti-a at Deal (where their assistance was required .°7 the Officerspf the ReVenue' to escort a seizure tr . had 'made, to the Custom.house), General DO ha s issued very strut orders, and that in future, i feall ed . upon a likd occasion, the party of less than fifty men and three Offi cers, w ho arc to load. their pieces before they march off t he Parade , in order to return any fire that may be made on them, s h a ll not consis t The thunder and , lightning on the night of the arrival of the Ratifications in this Country, ha y . been met by correspondent prodigies on the event 0' Peace in France. A French Paper contains the, following notice :---" In the night of the 3d (1,1 06tober, the day on which the Preliminaries II': Peace with England were published, a very re mark t able conjunction was observed of the planets °a turn, Jupiter, Venus, and the Moon , near th _ beautiful star Reguitrs. The celebrated Astro ?: mer, MESSIER, gave an account of this interes.ttui solute phenomenon in the sitting of the National Insti on the Count COBENTZEL has made a present of r beautiful white Dogs to the F I RST CONSUL....io:i: seems to imagine, that not only th e prop:). s ltiove but the converse of it is also' due, " Lobe me' nt . y Dog." • e STE Seri also ven Wa plac day Wa, hens corn and fron frorr shor %%Frei witi end( to t have Yar the iNvh Wec Pass is r tiott brow *id tittai thy] dnd ,t 9 t tit 100 Cktt, and tiou bim tile ' last the i l audi Well tov 'in a drt.‘ 414 / 1 1 said VaY