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The SPEAKER reported, that 'Firs MAJESTY had been waited upon with the Address of the House, and had been pleased to return a most gra cious Answer. Mr. N. ViINSITTART moved for a Committee of the whole House to-morrow, to consider of cgr tain Aas relative to the Duties on Starch, and on Spirits made from Molasses and Sugar, PRELIMINARY TREATY. Mr. WHITBRRAD observed, it appeared by the Preliminary Treaty, that certain Cessions had been made to this Country by Spain and Holland, or rather, that certain Territories were ceded on the part of those two Powers : he, therefore, wish ed to know, whether Spain and Holland had been made parties to the Treaty, and whether they had atually made those cessions to Great Britain. Lord HAWKESBURY said, he had no objection whatever to answer the question of the Ilan. Gen tleman. The Preliminary Treaty was made only with France, and no direet communication was had upon the subjea either with Spain or Holland. The ces sions, however, made by Great Britain in the Pre liminary Treaty, were understood to be made as the condition of those Cessions made on the part of Spain and ,Holland. Mr. WHITBREAD declared himself perfedly satisfied, understanding, as he did, that- Spain and Holland were not made Parties to the Treaty. Lord HAWKESBURY assented. He would now, he said, answer a question proposed on a for. mer evening by an Hon. Gentleman (Mr. GREY), which he did not answer on that evening, because His Majesty's Ministers were not in possession of sufficient information upon the subject. That Hon. Gentleman wished to know whether the Integrity of Portugal, as guaranteed by the Preliminary Trea:y, was to be considered as the Integrity of that Kingdom prior or subsequent to the Treaties made between that Country and France and Spain. He could now inform that Hon. Gentleman that the Integrity of Portugal, as guaranteed by the Preli minary Treaty, was the Integrity of Portugal, as settled by the Treaty of Badajoz, between Spain and Portugal, whereby the Distria - of Olivenza was ceded to the former, and the River Guadiana made, the boundary of the latter. Mr. GREY said, if he understood the Noble Lord rightly, the Integrity of Portugal was to be so considered after the cession of the District of Olivenza. to Spain by the Treaty of Badajoz, and that any Treaty made between France and Portugal since that Period, was wholly out of the question, so far as it related to any cession of territory.- 7 But the Noble .Lord had taken no notice of another question which he asked, namely, whether that part of the Treaty between France and Portugal, whereby the Manufaaures of the former were to be admitted into the latter Country on the footing of those of the most favaured nations, was done away or not, by the Preliminary Treaty before the House. Lord HAW 7 KESBURY said, he- wished to be clearly understood ; at the period of the Treaty of Badajoz between Spain and Portugal, there was also a Treaty entered into between France .and Portugal, the former was ratified, whilst the Ratification of the latter was refused. It was understood that the Preliminary Treaty between this Country and France,- considered Portugal as subjed to the Ar ticles of both these Treaties, and that the Treaty between France and Portugal was to be considered as equal in every respel to the Treaty of Badajoz, between Spain and the latter kingdom. With re. spec to the other question of the Hon. Gentleman, he was realty at a loss what answer to %tom to it. Poctugal might, if she pleased, during a period of profound Peace, consent to admit the Woollen Ma . nut a&ures of France on the same footihg as those of England, und Great Britain might, in return consent to :limit the Wines of other Countries on the same ternts as those of Portugal. This seemed to him to be a matter of regulation, which. had nothing strictly to do with the terms of the Pre liminary Treaty, inasmuch as such kind of regula tions might be made as well during a period of pro found Peace, as at any other time. hi; Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown for e new Writ in the room of such Peer. It now appeared, however, that the framers of the T.iii of Union had not made provision for a circumstance of this nature, ant? he did net impute blame to them upon that account, since in the Multiplicity of provisions that were necessary to be made, it was no wonder some were emitted. But by the Bill of Union, the Aa he had alluded to, was virtually and effedually clone away, there being, in the first place, no Great Seal of Ireland ; and in the next no Writ of Summons could issue ton Peer of Ireland, unless he was chosen one of the Representatives of the Peerage of that Country in the House of Lords. Lord ROSSMORE, whom he must call his late colleague, had succeeded to that title, and the County of Monaghan • must !te considered as so far =represented, Irish Peers being disqualified from sitting in the House of Commons, unless for places in England. That Noble Lord, however, not being one of the Representa. tive Peers, there was no way in which, the House could be informed of .the fact, except by his (Mr. DAwsoN's) assertion. Conceiving, therefore, that a new elation. ought undoubtedly to take place, he concluded by moving for a new Writ for the County of Monaghan, in the room of WILLIAM WARNPA WESTENRA, Esq. now Lord ROSSMORE. The SPEAKER observed, that the case now brought before the House by the Hon. Member, was analogous to that of Lon/MAITLAND; there having been in that case a new Writ granted in the room of Lord Viscount MAITLAND, now Earl of LAUDER DALE, a Peer of Scotland, upon the assertion of 2 Member of that House. Upon further investiga , tion, he discovered there were two instances last Session, in the cases of Lord DoNtat,Ly and Lord AswrowN, both in similar situations with Lord ROSSMORE, in whose room new Writs were issued. In those two instances they were merely stated to be Peers of Ireland; but he thought this should be altered to the title of a , Peer of the United King dom, since Peers of Ireland were, by the A 5 of Union, Peers of Great Britain, except for certain purposes. DAWSON observed, that the Lords DaN NELLy and Asfurowti were so created, and their cases were therefore different from that of Lord RossmoßE, who had succeeded to his title. Mr. CORA'Y said, there could he no doubt of the propriety of the Hon. Gentleman's Motion. — '• Thz fad was, however, that of the two cases men tioned, one of them, Lord DONNELLY, had suc ceeded to his title, and was therefore in the same situation with Lord RQSSMORE. He highly ;ip.. proved of the SPEAKER'S proposed alteration, which he considered as a part of that honourable and manly conduit which the SPEAKER had uniformly pursued with regard to Ireland, conducing to the support of its honour and its dignity, and for which he deserved the approbation and roped of that Country. The . Motion was then earrie4,—.-Adjo,arned. THE S U IT, seasui QV;; 13jCIVE TAI.II:M .41JDLAT ? SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the House to re solve itself into a Committee of Supply, and that His Majesty's most Gracious Speech should be re ferred to the said Committee ; which being carried, the SPEAKER left the Chair, and a Resolution hay. ing passed the Committee that a Supply should be granted to His MAJESTY, the House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow, STANDING ORDERS. Mr. BRAGGE moved the Order of the Day on the adjourned Debate relative to the Standing Orders, the consideration of which was postponed on Friday.—Mr. BRAGGE observed, he thought some better mode might be devised of arranging 'the Standing Orders now under consideration, par ticularly so far as they related to the Irish Peerage. He thought the best method of effecting this purpose would be to refer them ma Committee above stairs, who might consider the same,- and report their opinion to the House. He therefore moved, " That the Orders of the Day should be discharged, and the , said Standing piders referred to a Committee tp consider the matter thereof, and report their opinion thereupon to the House."---Ordered. IRISH PEERAGE. • • Mr, pAwsoN rose for, the purpose of making several observations relative to a vacancy in the representation of the county of Monaghan, in Ire., land, occasioned by the succession of Mr. WEsTEN, RA, his Colleague, in the representation of that county, to the title of Lord RosvjoßE. By an A 4 of the z sth and /6th Geo. 111. he ,aid, upon 4 Member of the Irish House of Commons suc'eeet, ing to a Peerage in Ireland, and two persons having certified to the SrEIOCER the Writ of such Peer under the Great Seal of that Kingdom, die SPEAKER was authorized and direacd to issue LONDON, NOPEMB ER 3, 18ot. IF we have for some days past at all intermitted in advancing arguments in defence of the Peace, the Preliminaries of which have been Signed and Ra tified, we confidently hope, thrtt our Readers will attribute it not merely to our heeling that enough had been said on this subjea to satisfy every unpre judiced Mind ; not merely to (tur persuasion, that the public.opinion was pretty well made upon it, but to the near approach of th , t opening of the Ses sion of Parliament, when the opinion of those, who are much better qualified thtm ourselves to form correa ones, would at t raft the at tention of the Public. We have - carefully read all :that has been so se dulously advanced on this subjtia, in Prints hostile to the present Administration. Our opinion re. mains unaltered ; and we believe that of the Conn,. try almost unanimously to coimeide with us.. Be tween our Opponents we shill ever be disposed to make distinaions—On the ore side w see high public spirit betrayed into eittravaganci,t•s, which, we think, neither the circumptanees of qiis i Cour)- • try, nor of Europe n its present state, warrant. On the other, we can .discover nothing tnit shame less inconsistency, glaring contradiaion,, and a de cided predileaion for France (which it has ever shewn) manifested by an unremitting and traitorous delight, in exulting in the glory of the Republic, and in triumphing in, what they call, tile disgrace of Great-Britain. Is Great Britain then disgraced ? In what respea has she been so, either in the prosecut ion of the War, or in the conditions on which Ole has con sented to terminate it ? 'l he War ; was, in its origin, one of Self-defence. Let tit(' Opposition deny this. We refer our Readers to the con fession of the author of it—to BkISSOT himself, who, in his dying moments avows the grounds on which he advised it. In the prosecution of it, we have in no one instance failed of success, when • British Arms were alone employed."—lf we hAye been deserted by our Allies, is . our Government to be blamed for such defection ? If we ha... called in at mining Continental Objects, wl••: te i s t h e ma d man who will assert,. without Continental co-opera_ . tion, we could have the remotest chance of now pro. secuting them with the smallest hope of success ?-4 the prqecution of the War, we have done all that bc.- came a wine, a great, a magnanimoui Country t—ii its termination, all that could be required by a rr,:, fleeting, a discriminating, or enlightened People. What had we to gain ?—We defy our oppostents to answer these questions.—Was there the most rt.. mote prospe& of forming a new Coalition against France ?—Had there been, Would any Minister, under the present circumstances, after the repeated and bitter disappointment that we have experienced. have ventured to propose to the House. of Commons . a continuance of the War, merely under such et pedation ?—if there was not, where was FranCe vulnerable by British Arms.?—What hope could we entertain of emancipating Holland from her in fluence, or of detaching the Netherlands from their . union with hex ? The Settlement of the Continer.t: having already been adjusted by the Treaty of bose‘ wale, would she have listened for a moment to any . proposition on our part, to give up that, which the Powers most interested in requiring it had alreadi conceded ? What object then would we have had in prosecuting the War ? From her foreign pos sessions we could gain nothing ; for we had already gained every thing.—The War then must havo been continued, under an Annual Egpence of Piftf Millions, without a hop of the redemption of the Income Tax, under increasing burthens, and Or purely defensive grounds, against an Enemy, who might have possibly done us essential injury, either at home or abroad ; and who might, and probably' would have crushed those Allies which remained to us, whom we had no means of assisting, and 'whose Territories we have the pride and the glory to pre serve, by the sacrifices which we have made for so honourable an object. But, say the Supporters of Opposition, we might have made Peace at any period of the War on bet , ' ter Terms.—,Could we ? When Was ,that period ? — . Were these Gentlemen in the Secret of ROBE' SPIERRE, or in those of the famed Executive Direc tory, when Lord MALMESBURY went to Paris first, and afterwards to Lisle ? Do they know thoC I)Tace might have been made at all in the former period ? And what reason have they for thinlzing r hat better terms might have been procured by Lorti GRENVILLE in the latter ? Perhaps Lord Gars' VIL L E will explain this—or how does he expe& ths charaaer will stand with the Public ? But w a are not to forget that Peace, had it been made , ' would have been infinitely more hazardouS to .Eitr land, in proportion as that French Government was more revolutionary, and less likely to be pet* !Patient than the one with which we have treated' But Mr. PITT refused to treat with BorsArA l4l: two years ago ! Why ?—Because, after the various rapid revolutions which had taken place in Frano he had every reason to doubt that his Govern Ill° was likely to be firmly established. On that poin t ' Mr. Prrt's approbation of the Neotiaticn which' has taken place is conclusive. Have we then gained nothing br the War ? 314 nothing but disgrace by the Peace ?-r-We have-r" served our Constitution, the destruction of o'l lo was the objeEt of Revolutionary. Fiance when sr forced us into it.—We have gained ',mortal Glatt by Sea and by Land, the recolledicll of which 0d never be effaced.—We have made initzoetant Co" quests, the most precious of which we retain,---S fc have uniformly preserved inviolable Faith to opt Allies-3 matter of little estintation to certain pet sons, but of some to the Country. That Couna has been preserved from the effects of Secret Ca 1 spiracy, Public Harangues, and Treacherous Publi cations. In the Preliminaries of Peace we can cover nothing but what men of public spirit," well as of moderation, may, and ought, to 4(11110 and applaud. We are - well persuaded, that discerning Public, not easily to be imposed 01 01 by specious declamations, will properly estimate the measures of an Administration, in whom theirl(.ing and Country have hitherto placed common c"''' fidence, whose integrity no one 'has dared to peach, whose uniform success no one can deny, 3 who are capable of preserving those blessings blO Firmness and Moderation, to which Great B rits is so much indebted for the uniform display of 6°54 useful and splendid qualities, • ...••••••••=l..mu e mm The Hamburgh Mail duon Sunday, had arrived when our Paper was put to Press. Yesterday morning Hts MAJESTY, between to l tV showers, accompanied by Earl CHRSTERFIEO 7 . O I Lord WAA.stiqcflAm, and his Equerries in wait S t walked in Kew C.-lir.lens. The KING took si notice of tha 'new improvements. t,° tier Royal Highness the PRINCESS of came from her Residence at Blackheath, to coll'P h e ment THEIR MAJESTIES on the Birth-day 01 Duke of KENT. 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