The Sun. — London, England, 1801-02-17 00:00:00

I Mr. NICHOLAS . said 'he considered himself I * not ditorderly - ; for .he was merely stating the grounds upon which he .thought the coty2utt of 1, the Right Hon:Gentleman extremely reprehen. Bible: Mr. PITT begged •to say a very few words, in answer to..what had fallen frornahe lion. Gentle man who spoke last : the time would come when he could speak more, fully on this sul;jed ; until that time, he trusted to the candour of the ,House, and when - they were fully explained, il the insinu at i on o f t h e H onoura bl e Gentleman ! ••';( 'Would he found to be 'more than' unfounded.— It had been stated, ' that, he bad given a .kind of pledge as to the conduft of those who were,likely •. to succeed him in office. In the first place, he had 'given no such pledge, nor could he give any ; • and, secondly, if he had, given • any pledge, he had not only, not said what had been attributed to him, but no man offairness who had attended to him / could have,supposed,him to have said so. lie had given .no opinion of the conduft which . , tilat,Administration was .likely to adopt, bet , . - when it was urged on the; other side of the k House, that they would probably aft upon the same systern as His -Majesty's present Servants, he had merely observed, that it was rather a ' sin' gu:ar mode of proceeding, to ask the House to decide against the new Ministers, because they - were likely to adopt that line of conduft which the House had repeatedly sanftioned. , The Hon. Gentleman who spoke last, had repeatedly ac:. eased Ministers in a kind of qua inephrase, of re-i fusing to mike Peace until the old Frsitch regime was re-established; This. assertion had been contradifted as often as it had been rnade,eand he could now.only repeat, that - His. Majesty's Mi nisters had never said any thing;which could bear such an interpretation. Mr. SHER-WAN-said,. if ever these was a eiree'when the House and the Country were,enti tied to plain dealing, instead of juggling and eva sive conduct, it was at the present most import ant crisis. He was clearly of opinion,. that his E Hon. Friend was not, asthe..Right Hon.• Gentl eman had stated, out of order. He knew that His Majesty's name was not to be introduced for the purpose afeentrauling or influencing the de_ hate, but if • a Member thought that Ministers were afting,in such a manner as . to being-discre dit upon His West) , :supine,. he conceived it to be,perfettly consisterit ?aith order for a. Member 'to state it. If the .!tight: Hon, 'Gentleman and his; Colleagues had left office 'upon fair, inanly, anctConititational igrottiilS,. they would not have left .the subject •in doubt----they syoul , 'd have anxi-. isu,, sly sought-an oppOrtunity of explainjng ~t fully, to the House, ' "rife • Right Ha - , .Geritlimarti' 'however, had not 'thought •proper :toikile 'any tar iSfsaloll ro the House.; hehad, - 110Wei,•er, de nit(' file artith-of the rianones whidi_Were iu tit': 'ciliation respefting the ' causes .whichiel - 'to ate `clang,: in ; Administration. T,he "Clarge which 'pad been brought agaiest'lVlinfiters by 'his lion. Friend, and in • Which ' he' conceived hini to be 1iiit.41,1.1 in elder, was , this,' that Ministers had 1 1 1$1,e, alio . Country:in a - most dang.erous . gittation, 'riorefaeQinae they avere ,Oot:.vote4''iti ilte'Chtiiilee, 'not 'because they - were out voted in that' Haiise', imebecause theme hid 'lien a tleifi7ll on the part •, • • .• if, the. Sovereign to .comoly• with,the ,:vi:die, of ta ;thin,sity :at' t 4: Ithint i,: . - ,,'Ybe , ,k i,ght Non - . ; :'Cliittleinan.hat.l ) litiweVer,, ftiainised,: that ;10(1111e -future period,lie•wouldbernore explicit ;"11e'lltiped hAertildrtlike; an lettily44lty - ftsrllikstirpose. ' Ile ailutelatot hei;pObserVioge that` it; W.'asysittiter a ; sin_ :gular distinittionofan.lin.NtluberhOhadspo , ken' Some.-s4ine; befOre, who had wtN, ; that it wits due from Ministers to.the t iiidepquient,..Flembers Alf , gilt' litiUsi*-4914e .an 'Cillialtittt6ti. - .I.lils'eer •tainly was rather str.tnge lanstia4e ; ati,stbk:.talk. 'ink- so e mplititk•allVlOfindepenefent - Wlemfwrs, the lion. Gentlenin .seettted toinsinuitte; what :%vils dot. very respeall ;to the Isouse, .01:4i aili ;1`4, 01 _ , i i esw . beeretniatin that 'situation, Ishe_floit. GC n _ ' ' tieutan . ; however, • . svlio . hatl-rnitle (ihe'Mation,*was . tolerably competent to speak- upon The point, for he had for a long time formed (Ale of that Maj o . rkk of Severeighths whic'h the .Right 'Hon: Geri: ' •tleman had. 4oasted-of, and' etinSe4uently could ' _form something.iike a guess ,slain the uitijea;__:._ i 'lt had been saki, that atriignini the - Condua Of a Ailinistets - was coiisuring : the • I ecisinn of 'iliac • ~House;- bee:this wits an aswrtion f or Which then. v: , as not - the sligliteat .'foundatitiii. :.1"1• I •.' 4 , (- ldi u , was, that . the Ministers had carried on the War . _without skill,' and. Without - success. . No b d • • 0 4 r . 11:14 fo'Und fault With'i l arliaittrnt .'for irantintlie • 1 / Supplies . . the accusation Was, that They had been i ; misapplied. • His Hon. Friend had expressed his 1 surprize, 4 and he could: *not help ..e e u cur ring , 'iii opinion with hitn,' that. theTßight•lTon. Gentle -4 snan should,congratulate biliseit opalr his leiving - ice ilissuch' an unintelligible mainier, with de. Country iiisuch a dangerous s`tate; having al not,t the whole World for its ;Enemy, after htiv ink ex , . _petaled 300, 0 00,0001. of ninety, and naving lost .the lives of 2ov i odo men. - It was indeed ras h _singular, that after such' .a 'disgraceful War; the Right- Hon. 9entleman 'shotild choose ; that mo. .raent to congratulate the House upon his beirt ,chosen intoOfficein•the year 1784. He believed the House sincerely repented the confidence they .1 . had reposed in that - Right Hon: Gentleman. Ile believed there ;was not a 'Gentleman on the other iside of the House, • who did, nbt sincerely regret! his having supported• Ministers, when they re fused BON Al l A ill is" offer .to. negtli3te—when •af-I tertVarils their would not treat witli - M: i oTrci; on, thezeteAce..of .th,e,,Etigagealtass,:vaih.,-the Eat_ : PEROR ; he believed there was ,not a Gentleman: : • - who - did•nor lament that, when that ohs-tat-1e was; • , taken away, by the FMPERi,R's making Peace,l a fresh attempt 'had not. been; made to set on foot , 2. Negotiation. The light Hon. Gentleman had,: with his usual ingefluity, attettined to,lhift.tber real purport oi.ae.Questione.and to give it a. charad'et - which did not helpni to it : he had. stated this to 'he .a Wescion, iVhcther the Sup . plies werc to be. &ranted, and wh . ether the Public, Serv4e Avds to g i 7 ii oh ? if this kind of language was iTD.frattrit Arreffeatiall;i sxtinguish all the fun Lions of- that House: tc.%yqu vt a. .s be_, said, " Our situation is • 'dangerous, therefore t ,• there is no time for Inquiry ; you must grant the Supplies without investigation, or clie you wili leave the Country in a defencele.s situation."--:- If the objet of lth Hon. Friend was to withhold the Supplies, he for - one certainly would not sup_ port him; but. he had no such ableft:-it was not to refuse the Supplies, but to delay them for a short ' , timed ) until the Roust knew and saw the Ministers into whose- disposaLthey..were about to trust ouch. an.immense sure of money. The Right Hon. Gentle Man had said, he would always there be ready to-defend his condo& ; but that was nor what they wAnted..; they wanted to know who were to spend this enormous sum, which was to be raised upon the PeOple, and bow it was to be expended.: The Right Hon: Gentleman had al luded to the' case of 1784, and to the conttua of the Opposition of that day ; he would not now argue* whether the condua of that Opposition W.IS right or wrong ; he would leave that'point to be settled bet Ween the,Right Hon. Gentleman and his friend the SE,CR ETARY At WAR: • It was,: however, a little singular, that mat* .of those persons whose c9nduEt he had so strongly reviled in 1784., were the very persons Avhom he now left in office, and of whose .future conthia : ibex Right Hon. Gentleman had augured so favoura. bly. The Right Hon, Gentleman had, howevee, stated, that he , would noroit his Station - until he had forwarded the Wa}is and Means of the , year. Ibis, however, was, pot the condua of the .Right Hon. Gentleman in . ;84. He.(Mr. SHERIDAN) re Menthe tad cbrai lig" into office at that period, upon' the Right 'Hon. Gentleman's retirement,: ,who Was then but a:Boy'MinisM, lie:, howevg, Jeft.an,empty satchel Wind:hill), .not - a scrap of a Tax or negotiation e far: a I.OAn. It was therefore fair to• infer now; when the liolht Hcin:-..Gentleman aeted so‘clifFerent a manner, that he conOklertdhis successors in the same light .as himself.. The Right Hon. Gentle man had stated, Chat he had given no pledge with respeft to the future conduct of the New Admi nistration ; ,but ,the Right Hon. Gentleman surely could not . )e ignorant of what had fallen cram one of His Majesty's Ministers in another plaCe (to which . it would not be regular in him - to allude) that Noble ~ .Lord had stated that the ,Connoy need, not be alarmed, for that the new Ministers would ad upon the same principles as the old ones. As to pledges.of this kind, he placed rio reliance upon them ; what ,he wanted was, to 'have some persons ,present, who ,were responsihle., : And who would,zive th.: j louse some saxisf,laioli as to the manner in which the money was toile expendett Fie f.ertainly•did .nortuean.to. say' any !thins un civil -trail. Maiesty"s new StAryantst lika it . the : Country:, if Pur Allies (supposing ,we' had any), if auto c Was mid that they Might place the same etinfidnc . :6 irrrhe "chew' Ministers. that they.harl in the old, ¶hie Itelieited the general ;Sat would :he, tha t t 4y„tv,crxny! entit.lo to ;the mine confidence-. He was s o paking of - tVose Who. really placec cop, cadence 'the' 1.1 - te - 'Admfnist rat ion--4 , theyneh+ eoaldlphtovdorifittenne ' the 4tetui ;. to them *it moo AIWA!: 44 - str4llP , As ifigsguns,of a ; ship thrown over-board= in or er .to pie j re her fir aeti&l, and thafsthe'crewAlioughllt silffidient to-have a few 'swAttel.s . ' , anittarronades on the quartArtskx,k ; or, as if wheli a ship was in , storin, they cat' .Away ,the rudder in order to li fir: a her, . 4 There was a phrase very lunch l i n when thirttligitSe-wai ballot big 'for Commit.. lees on EitClions,' arhigh ,was foot-gety v6ite; -it hatl,:l!cfp .intta(*ed Gentirpleit rqf the Law,'' th'ic were ,s i6k otilie dames or wllll' ' , ‘": l 4tinoCk out ithetfriairrbithe , List.!:.! in j Atereopt . . t in, stanc(.., .4114,then i a. !nark ...was shippld upon the 'eil?pqr sku'hl',' - and the •wtefelolit, rr' I t"i as fine a -figure' as lyoit- 4641ti"sitiliarto .A TM* must be the language of ~04 1 0 ;p 04 , 3 vg rei 0 . 114,y attaQhed to the 4;11 yipitEzts,-)+ , 14-/Nlio really placed epitlitince in -thent,, With tOspeti t 6 his owtitipiitioil, aI P?Ctener.he'Jwould":Stiff say, that therwete:verr•iiespettalie oren,.paiii cularly the Right Hon. Gentleman who lately filled, the Chair of that :House, so mnch s tohis . oA honour and the :ulvanlaie 'of thiai r ettisi:'' Ht. : had no d&tbc but' that-the Hon.Gtsn denial' who now:filla tlle Wiaiuilvel.oll9v.il4 ,bliA,4+ll3Pl; would obtain the esteem and afieCtion ot . 4l,sides of the" HOuse. The Right,.. Ron. qentleman' (the laid Spealtier) hh'oveNtr nru t.4dtipt a 4, diftiretit line of conduct; he must nut follow the. l ex;- ample, if he wishitd.to-igijoy . the' confidence, fly :protnote,rtiV Wiliness-30V the 'People : ;. he must ad in direct, opposition to his Vrecle;. cessor ; he ,mast - .}hot . destroy the Rights And Privilegevol:the 'People ; he must not squander' away . the public 'Treasure ,he must not ,advise the lavishitwitway the tionckurs ol the crown in the manner they .1141,, i 4een., ,He would. 'not ,•: large upon the se topics any more' at present, but should conclude with st'aiing, that in his opi 6ion pbsSibre inconvenience could result from the delay ,which wai Proposed, and therefore it • aliouid have his 'support. • • Mr. PIT,T, in reply, 'poke nearly as follows : " Sir, in the course. of what fell from' the Hon. Gentleman' whp has, just sat down, there was. one allusion so personal to me, thai I trust I shall I be permitted to say a few words in teply,:andi that the candour dt'thc House wilindt confine me to the strict terms /31 . ati-Oplanatitm. When I interrnpted4to Hon. Gentleman some time ago,l with that degree . of warmth .which was natural! on such„an occasion, .1 stated,. in as sstroogl terms a$ I could, that the idea was not founded, that I had suggested any rumour in. jurious to that Sovereign whom I. have servedi for so many years, and to whom, more perhaps' _ than any other, man in his ,dominions, I am bound; by every tie_ of gratitude, duty, and affeelion. I have been accused of having refused to give, . the House any explanation upon the subject of my resignation. Sir, I did` not decline giving the House an explanation upon that subjeft ; but I must be permitted to obierve, that it Appea rs to me to be a new :!;A t , not a very Constitutional . dodrine, that ; amariatt n..t :. not• follow his sense of duty—that a man must not, in compliance with ..tho,didatts of-his- conscience, :ti.,fue from office, without being bound to give to this-kiouse and to the Public an account of all the circtuustunees that .Weigh in Ms: nit".......un s ce #tis =du& 1 never till now, Sir, heard it imputed to a man as a crime, that from a sense' of he gave up h great • and arduous situation, which, it Was_ the great objed of his a.mbition. to:Obtain, and which It was the first wish of . his heatt to fill during the continuance of the great-and . important strug gle in which this Coutitry is now englged.7— With respell to the • resignation of myself, and of some-of my Friends, I have no wish to disguise from the House, that we did feel it an inciunbent duty upon us to propose a Measure on the .part of Government, which, under the circumstances of the Union so happily effected bet Ween the two Countries, we thought of great public import ance, and necessary tocompleat the benefits like ' ly to result from that Measure : that we felt this opinion so strongly, that when we. found circum stances that rendered it. impossible for us to pro pose it as a Measure of Government, we equally felt it inconsistent with our duty and our honour Any longer to remain "a part of that Government. What mayhe the opinion of others, I- know not, but I beg to have it.understood to be a measure which, if I had remained in Government, 'I must have proposed.—What - my conduEt will be in -a Miff treat situation, must be regulated by a mature and impartial- review of all the circumstances of the.case I Shall- he governed. (as it .h-ai. a lways been the wish of my life to be) • only by such considerations as 1 ilfink best tend to ensur e the tranquillity,. the . .strength, and the happiness of the Empire." 'The Motion for going Into a rgommitree was then put and agreed to without a division. -- NAVY ESTINIAT ES. The House resolved itself into a Committee of Supply, Mr. BK.AooE in the Chair. ELIOT moved, that there be granted for . the Sea Service 1 . 35,000 Men for ten months, inclOding 30,000 Matines, 71 ERNEI' observed, that this t 1: q; a very considerable inerak that the ti,utnber or men voted on a former occa:iion did not exceed 120,000 men. Mr. Pin' obserVed, that it was very desir able, under the present' circuinstances, to. carry the strength of the Country as fitr as jioasibie, because we might have to contend forrprrneipies which w'erees4ntial to our Naval l'olver. There' hatt`heen-•#lreatiy , voted for the service of this ft:11 - 120,000 men ; -1 . 11(1 he vas I sttrt. Gentleinon, upon conifiera:ion, would-not the presila ilicrease too-great. • - The Motion was then agreed-to. ' • • • of moved, That a Stun not , ditceitring 2 1 ,49#,560t. tie:granted for the Wages of the said z35,cp00 Mon for ten month}. : AF inontli,—A;reeit to, Air; F. t. t, io r ihoved; That a S.um not ,-..ccettirig i°,573;ti001: he . grant6t tor' Victuals tot the .said hgenitOrtgen trunufis.- 7 Agreed to. Mr. ELLIO-r moved, T,iiikt A Slim not exceeding 330„001. be graiited tOr'the `eXpenee of 'Ordnance on Wait the-said Sbips.—Agte6rl to. Mr. • uttwitil, That. a: Spun not exceeding 4.0.50,0001, kranted-tbr the Wear and Tear of th , Ships on board yr Nei/ the Laid Man arc 10 bc.cmployed.—Astedd . ,• ~ M r. Ay!! ort- 'Dint *het; be Fantod a Sum nbt excceding 637,..11111.,95. t)rdin.iry Of•the I'ivy : . 16T ten Ifidntlt —AgNec`l Mr. ELI. I T 1110 xi, Wit t See 17e granted a Sant r .. int / vc r above the scut iindtcar.—sigiecc to. viVir.: F. rOT 1110Ved, 'l'llAt that: 4+c grail-tett A' novid examang -1 ,44 S , 06A. ti►r the cxpanoe of tuo , Tnniliirt Service,- and tor, theluirtntewAnct . of Prisonzr.; s W , a7 lilt hcalth'ior tell 1110110p;;.—Av i teihi kV). ' !!" Mr. ELt.iy . r ritoved, That -Murk, taiittclat A . titi ttiO t 4X4:40.11140;5 . 7 5 • for the care anti im.ntritank:eof Prisoners o 1 War tik;test 'skint bs.'----Agried.to - . • e! - ARMY EAT4AJA TES. ThoW.RET .12Y at WAR then •rose, for .she purpose of callin . ethe attention of the Committee to the Army Estimates, The Committee woyld percetye in the estimates of this year, many things , 'whi6h were not usually in the 'Estimates (he alluded to the statements tesp4aing : the Army in Ireland), which used to be separate, bur which no W, in consequence.of the Union, formed a part of the Gcneral,Estiinate. TheComtnittee, how ever, .tvotikl now have before them, in one short :view, an account of all description of Troops. in :the service of the whole,Empire. The number of .r-regular Forces, Cavalry and Infantry, anaottnted to 10, fB7 men. T,he number of bath British and Irish, ..was Fencibles, Both 'British .and Irish, 31,445- 7 -so ,that the / whole -Force in, the Empire, in ' these. three deseripsipns of Troops, -exeltisive • of the teEr Corps, amounted to 302,64 i eipencc ,of maintaining ..this_ Force, would be ti,9+6;8891. ,In dis s iinguishint between the expeucc col the two Countries,. g 'would 'stand thus, for Great •Britain, 9,617,0301. 3,3'23401, ,making. together 'the sum, he had before stated, 0f,1%,94.0,581. In comparing the Estimates of this with those of .the last. year, the Estimates for ;he present year exceeded lust year, by 762,4591. uolcss than 65 . 6,3,881. was incurred in consequence of an augmentation which had been made in the Army, by adding two companies to . each battalion, and by incroasing the Cavalry. The real difference therefore between the Esti mates of this and of the last year, .was not much more than tocoool.—With respet to the Irish Estimates, .he could: not compare them, from his own knowledge, but he understood the difference . was AOL considerable. • He then observed, that an allowahce had been held 'accessary to be granted to the Troops in Ireland, which were placed in a different situa tion from that in which they stood formerly. The relative situation of the two Countries had been altered considerably since the Union ; and it had, upon rouch - consideration;been thought necessary to . equalize the Establishments between Country and Ireland on the allowance to Soldiers,, so that when Tropps came over here from!ire-i land, or went there from hence, there should pot' be felt by them any difference :in tlteir situation,' and then . thre would he, as much as it was pos.i sibie to procure it, an indifefence in the Tioopsl which of the two Countr:.! , i they should serve in ; i for these reasons, t he same advantages were held! oat in both. Ile would advert to a few particu. i tars. There was an allowance, wall known un,, ilet the name of Beer-Money, which consisted of a penny per day to each man in addition to what: .they had before. There Was another allowance, . . in England, whie li co could •• bey Made. to .Troops in Ireland as it was in England, on account of the 4tAte bt - the roads and of the inns upon , thi roads ; the•allowance to the Troops on march, therefore, would not be in the 'same way theie as it was here, but the Troops would there have an equivalent to that which' was allowed muter that head in this Country. There was a dilitcalty in adjusting this business to exatiness, but,the deavour was. to put the Soldiers in Ireland upon the same condition as those in England, in this as well as, in other particulars. .After a great deal of consideration upon it, .however, .by Gen tlemen infinitely better qualified to form opinions on it 'than he pretended to he, and particularly 4he Noble Lord near him, it was determined that Soldiers on their march in Ireland should have an allowance of four-pence, and the Dragoons thtee pence per day. . The reason why the allowance was one penny less to the - Dragoon than to the Foot Soldier was, that the Dragoon could better contribute to his own support at present than the. Foot Soldier can ; the allowance of the one being ren•penee in all, and the other only. nine pence. Having detailed this and other topics at consi. derable length and obsetved that one thing r e . stilted from this plan, which was rather in favour ofthose who served in Ireland by the difference there was in the price of the necessaries of life there and here, and the pay in both was the same. It:was to be observed, however, that the calcu lation of the Irish Estimates were made in Eng, lish money, and were to he so paid, , . The Esti,, males he then proceeded to enumerate in some parts, and observed, that upon the whole they exceeded that of the last ;year . about .ioo,oool. They consisted of a number of items, Which were comiderable in themselves, hut which he should not dwell upon, unless he understood that they were to become the sUbje4 of particular inquiry : he Should * therefore proceed to move his Resolu tions. He then moved, That it is the opinion of the Committee, that 58,387' men, be em ployed for that part . of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, called England, Jersey, seY, and Alderney, fat the service of the year IBoi. The:question being put, Mr. GREY said, he was very sorry that he could not agree .with the Right :flop. Gentleman. Fie had dwelt but on 'this Matter : al though it WAS of magnitude and'importance, no explanation wits given to ale noose, either as to the thing itself, or the mode. If he understood the Right Hon. Gentleman rightly, the augment.. ation he proposed to have in the Army was very great, no less than about ,20„000 men.-- 7 [l-lere he was corrected, and informed tIW the ineruw was only to,000.) Taking that to he so, the .num her was . very great in addition to what we .had already. He did .not mean to say drat this num herought not to be voted at all, but he was o f opinion • • i it ought not to be voted until die sity for it was proved, and until some expl ana . tion was given of the mode in which it was pro.. posed to .be :done. This was the more necessary, when the :House came to rcolledt what was the case the last two years. A great f o r ce was t h en ritibed for the internal defence of this .Country,. a hen we were under the alarm of an Inyasioth Cid that occasion the force of the Conntry retied a considerable increase Most ..atoe it was,for our, internal defence : that attn. tip nal force was afterwards turned into an addition to she regular force of the Country. There was go l nAl reason for the additional force to the Mi litot when we had an alarm of an Itivasian ; but now there was no additional force wanted for,ol - service, etccp: by she :NorSherntonfe.: &racy, which he apprehended was not considered by Ministers as alarming, He did ,not „know whether this . force w.ts meant for defensive or of.: fensive operations, for that was not explained; but if the same Gentlemen,were to continue 'in Administsation as had composed it I'm years, jzo should have no he,:itation in saying, that' he had had t00,406ch experience of them, to think it . prudent to allow iheM the disposal 'of such a ! farce as that ;which was now pro, pOfcd, for they had wasted sp. much Trea sure in fruitless and disgraceful Expeditions, that they could not betrusted with the powor of doing it again. In a ,word, he should be readiet at all dames,. and partictilarly at this rime, toas, sent to the Augmentation,of the Militia than the Rqgular orces,. if our .objed was Defensive Opt, ration. The SECRETARY at fr A R said, that he had not much . to urge upon this subjea. As to tile general policy of the matter, he owned that, until he heard the Hon. Gentleman who had just spoken, he-thought there would have been no dd. ference of opinion, and it was with extreme sur prize that he heard that part of the Hon. Gentle- ' man's Speech which 'related to that point. He :wassurpriied to hear the Hon. Gentleman make , somuch difference as he seemed to do, betw e en the Militia and the RegUlar 'Force of thiS Coun. try, and to prefer the tilitia to the likegular Force, as an attive Body for Defensive Opera don. This was a general Military Question, and he did not bet himself well qdalified 'to discuss it much. It the Honourable Gentlenian eqetlett those who were to succeed thepresent Ministers to be - better qualified for their Offices,. perhaps- he might lend them his Support_,l but he apprehenti4r . ed that the power of acting offensively against the Enemy, whenever an opportunity occurred for that purpose, and that became necessary, he ap. preheiided, ought to be 'given to every Admini stration ; when that should take place, and hoed, were topics which he was not inclined, at pre. sent, to discuss. But it was a li4tle that these objedions came from the Hon. man at a time when there was no opportunity of ading offensively on 'the part' of this Country, for none of the force now proposed was at present considered as going out of the CoUn.. try. And what was still more extraordinary was :this., the Hon. Gentlenvds ideal • were not only that the increase of our force should kg confined to those who may remain within the Country, but who cannot be cOmpelfed to. go. out o 1 it, and that to the knowlege of 'the Enemy. • It . was now fur the first tints the