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Y" , ~~-, ; . rir creased. But,he 'would ask, whether he had ever said any thing implying that the pressure of the present circumstances arising from die failure of the Crops, and the high price of provisions, was riot severely felt in many parts of the Kingdom ? He would farther ask, whether he had ever: been found backward in taking an interest in relieving .those'parts of the Country where the pressure was Mostly experienced ?- But he would ask also, whether men who were, Woking to their. own in .terest„ and the welfare . both of the Riclvanit the Poor, could for a moment suffer the general poll'. cy, and welfare of their Country to be affeeted by the incidental increase of the Poor Rates during the last year ? All, doubtless, would join in en- . deavouring to administer relief suited to the exi . gency of The moment. But this aflbrded no fair reason to any Man for endeavouring to depress the spirit of the Country, and to deprive it of those,qualities by which alone the Country 'could expea to encounter and to overcome those difficulties which it might have to encounter. But the Hon. Gentleman had more thaninsinuated that there was no remedy for these evils but Peace. 'Peace was the most anxious wish of his heart ; such a Peace as was consistent with the honour and' the security of the Country. At the same timv,. he wa's not one who thought that ibis Measure could be promoted by Jetting our adversarieS derstand; that the mere defiCiency of seasons was -a circumstance why this Country should be induced to enter into any terms Of pacifieation, nor could, he, think that such condua would eventually be ,useful to the COuntre. Without doubt, ,great, and. populous, and Manufaauring Distrits, were the parts of the Country which felt most sensibly the effeCts of :the visitation Of Pro vidence respeCting the seasons ; and, ,he would attd, these were the places where Gentlemen; who had influence, were' called -upon to exercise . the greatest prudence; 'and wisdom, 'and moderation,' with a view of calming the Minds, and allaying the passions which such visitations might occasion in such populous Manufaauring Distrias. There were also unavoiably, particular parts of the Country which might be, more tin others, af-'. felled by the War; at the Same time, he wished it might be fully understood, that during this' War . ( which some Gentlemen were so fond of calling by the epithets unfortunate and calamitous); the 11/hind:it - lures of this Country have been increasing to an unexampled, degree. He would put ir, 'then, to Gentlemen, whether - they were doing . fairly toWardi their Country in represent ing partial evils as growing 'out of the War ?-- There.were persons Who had stated at the outset of the War, that it would ruin at . Manufadures ; and he had heard the very same persons contra_ dicing this 'very statement, Whilst they argued that the increa se of, the ManufaCtures occasioned by 'the War w ould endanger the. Conntry, when this artificial . prosperity would cease with' the Peace. Gentletnen 1:ould not, stirely, think that they' were right When, in the . first in s tance, they' prophesied the ruin of. our ManufadureS by .the '1 ,Tar, - and now— 'hen they acknowledged their, artificial increase' by the War, saying, that the only way to cure the incidental distress which. the Country experienced, was by the return of Peace. With respeit to the increase of the dis tress of the Manufaaurer arising troll) the in crease of hostilities with other Nations, this was a distind consideration, which ought tint to be blended with the question, whether the French War had increased or decreased our Mantilla... tures ? In answer to this last question he would dislindly state, that they -had increased.— With respett to the new War with the Northern Powers, supposing it to take place, he would re mark that some of the Gentlemen on the other side of the louse , had acknowledged the necessity of this Country's vindicating its Rights. How then could it be consistent with this sentiment, to raise exaggerated alarms in the minds of the Ma. nufatturers, as to the probability of a new War ? But others of these Gentlemen had expressed themselves very hesitatingly as to our Rights as a Maritime Nation ;--Rights, which he must ob serve, were intimstely conneded with our Mari time Power, our 'lndependence and our Honour.— • As he had touched' upon this stibje4, he would, with the leave of die House, suggest a few con siderations, as an antidote against these despond- . ing suggestions, Which some were disposed to indulge-. 'He would observe, then, that shoald i hostilities take the most extensive turn that ima-4 ginatiots could form, there 'were -two or three considerations, whkh Gentlemen should not ne. kled. 'First, -he would remind' them, that sup posing.the Northern Continent proves hostile to us, the Commerce of this Country was as indis-- pensably rieeessary to their supply, as their Corn. inerce could be to us ; idly, that their hostility would not prevent all articles of Commerce being eh rried on by Neutral• Nations, and that there is one Nation in particular, which from its distance, is not likely to . be involved in this dispute, which might -carry on this Trade to mutual, advantage., , In the next plate, • it ought not to be overlooked, of what comparatively small importance the Com,:.v merce, likely to be affe&ed by this dispute, bore tti the general . Comm!iree of the Country, and particularly to that Commerce which •lias ;ttually been extended during the present War. Upon the whole, he deprecated Gentlemen's exT„gerat. ing out-temporary difficulties and distresses, pet stualed as he Was, that nothing was• so well cal culated to bring us out of them as courage,' per severance, firmness, and making considerations of general welfare outweigh those of partial, or totnporary difficulties. Sir' 5. rARNELL explained.—He saidhe did not mean'to impute error , to the statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman respeOing Ireland, 'at the saint-time that he-was not sensible that he wa in error himself. What he wished 'particularly to-impress on the, House was, that whatever part of the Irish Expenditure for the year would ex- • • - teed OW:seventeenths of the, general charge, must, .amoriling to' the,statement of the Right flow.Crentletnan, he borne by 'England. Mr; M. A. , TAvI.OR also-explained. LatiCiISTL'ERKAGYI sai& that with re_ . sped. to. th -financial statement of the + Rt. Ilan. Gentleman (Mr. Pmr), all the great branches of Irish Expenditure had been consolidated with the general expellees of this. Country. The other separate head of Expences was included und-,0-that that of MiScellaneous charges of -Ireland. 'Fits Lordship then explained to the House, titat the manner of voting 'their Estimates was scan--:- what different in the Parliament of Ireland , from What it was in this Country. With - respect - to -the general statement of-the -Hon. -Baronet, -he was correct, that the Vote of Supply of the Irish Parliament the last year : , was above Six Millions, exclusive of the Vote of Interest for the Loan. Therefore the separate charges for whiddreland would have to provide, would exceed the sum of Two millions three hundred thousand Pounds. Comparing the sum of a.,34,0001. as the propor tion 'of Ireland to the general charge, with the whole expences of Ireland toted last year, exceed ing Six Millions, the question was, whether the difference between these two sums was not an att. ditional charge upon this'Country ? Jut had Ire land continued a separate Country, the charge would not have been so high by-several items. The separate charge of Ireland, as applicable to this Country, would amount to aliciut4,ooo,oool.. hilt by. adually uniting her interests with this Country, the aaual charge she would incur wOuld be only 4,32+,0001. • - By comparing these two sums, the Hon. Baronet would find the degree of saving which Ireland had obtained from the Union, and would be satisfied of the benefit which she had thereb . obtained in point of, Finance. Sir J. PARNALL 'explained, and said, he should have an opportunity, upon some other oc casion, of contraverting some of the' Statements whiCh he had heard. in the course of the evenin g . Mr. 110BHOUSE said, that the only topic (1 need at .by the Noble Loyd respelling the i System, to which he should advert, was that he item of Compensation made on account of the Disfranchised Boroughs of Ireland. This was a system which he was bound to reprobate, and which, he was afraid, had introduced too much of that influence, which had served to bring about the. Union- With respect to the statement given by _his Hon. Friend (Mr. TAY.: Lox), it was, that the Poor Rates had increased progresitely according to.the pressure occasion ed by the War : and it was well known that from every ,part - of the North of England the Manufadurets were under the. necessity of sup_ porting their people, to the great loss of them selves. He agreed with the Right Hon. Gen tleman, that neither in ,that, nor in any other place, ought any spirit of undue despondency' to be excited ;,. at the same time, it was right that the People should know their real 'situation ; but if the Right Hon. Gentleman's - argument were carried to its full extent, they might as well - close the door, of. that House.; because, in his opinion, it was impossible to touch upon, a variety of public topics without some digree of - despondent*. He. observed that at one time, When the Funds wereextremely los?, 'the Right Hon. Gentleman had found it necesary to raise part of the .Supply within the year, is a means of raising -the Funds ;abut now, when he found himself obliged to,reeert to his former system, would, not the effed be again to- depress. the Funds ? With respea to ,out Exports, many Ar_ tides being charged ad 'valorem, according to .the increased price, this might serve to increase, the statement of their value. As to our Trade with Russia, that ; consisted.of such things as were de: cessary for the., purposes of, protection; the arti„. de of .Bemp, in particular, . was principally'de. rived from Russia. It might tie said, that this Article might be had frotn,America; but it was to be considered, that America was much more inclined to maintain, the : Maritime System of opr, Enemies, and therefore, we could depend 'nit little, upon her frieodship- or assistance. With rived , to ,the new proposed Taxes, could they, be Made productive, they would, in his view, be less obtedionable. But with resped : to, the ad. ditiOnal Tax proposed on Tea, he apprehend ed, it would revive' the pradice of Smuggling, and that:the capitals would then revert into that channel. Within the last two years increased Taxes had been raised in the article or Tea_to, the amount of 151. per cent. ; and ; as the . con sequence or the revival of'smuggling; the sales of Tia at, the East India-,House would diminish,, and the Revenue would . proportionally : suffer, iiu„,nd hence 'this Tax „would not be found so pro ' ' dive as was supposed, . As- . to, the ,Tax upon tioted cottons, they were worn : l4o9st of the lower classes .of females, and as such;might be Said to - :itc' the poorer orders. With tesped to Timber, which we . must- derive 'from abroad, he objeaed to any nesirTax upon.that commodity, . for - Which we - had - - so much occasion and need:— He would also Observe, that the Right lion. Gentleinan',i "calculations were 'deriVed from' a variety of papers, which had only last evening been laidaipon the. Table, whereas they ought to haste .been: presented auleast a week before, 'Other . wise how could 'Members he capable 'of judging g - 4, ett theni .witb t any degree-of-accuracy ? ikeL LlPPE . observeil; that from the Ac.. 4t 4 ti‘ inula egi, of Taxes, the utmost economy be_ !came ,riec4Ssary. ' But he holied a new Atimini_ stratioo 'would study' to `lar less upon the Public than was done by the prcF-ent Taxes, It w,:', t his'firm opirrion, that the Counti - y must in time sink under the pressure of the Taxes, if tie's were Continued as they had bun under the Ad _ ministration of the Right Hon. Gentleman, He 'acknowledged, that in the Bargain made with the Monied Men, there appeared. riddling like a job, and-that the; Right Hon. Gentleman appemNl to ha've studied the. Public Good. With regard to the Ways and Means-, he had to objed :to the Fist Article of Tea.' ' When the Comtnievi,m T ax was latd on, he understood 'the Right 116n1,,11,;)1,' Gentleman had pledge' hithself - that 'no future increase or this article of taxation 'shonld be „Yar ded' to any considerable extent:: He ob' t,'l also . to the proposed' i)uty upon' Agri,:i4itnal Horses. The present Duty :upon IjOi'Scs Was very considerable, and this' branch of 1;, 114 w;k afraid, ' would, .injure the Agriculttite. -i4( J , the Conntry.- 7 -With resped to 'the, other,. p+ )I Taxns, his ppinion was, Chat `th'er uoiaitill' - ui be produdive. ..The Question was then pnt, and 'carried, that the 'Resolutions be read a second time. - Mr. - #/TT recharked, that.the terms on which: he had 'Made the Loan 2a. three per Cent.. Consols-; and sol. igs. three pet Cent. redueed i 'but 'in the -Resolution of theCornmittee he per- Ceived a mistake, as, instead of sol. i Ss. it was mentioned.sol. los.. To prevent a loss to (he Subscribers .by. _this .accidental .mistake, -he. 411 g - that the best way would be, for . the Con:: mittee, non Monday, to bring in a Bill to vote the additional 'p. Mr. M. A. - TAYLOR insisted that Memberi . should be at liberty to state :he distresses of the • Country whet new Taxes were about to he im_ posed, and that_ it was absurd to hold oat the prosperous state of the Country at Such .a time. If any Gentleman, indeed, got up merely with a view. to inflame the minds of the Coun try against the existing Government, he would be highly reprehensible ;..but when could there be a more'. proper time for starting the Na tional Distresses, , than when nearly 3o __Millions were going to be added to the, National .Debt ? He assured the _House that t.he.stateroent' he •had broUght forward that evening respeding the ,pro_ „gressive increase_of the-Poor. rates, was not from any view of inflaming the minds of the Country. The Resolutions were then read‘ and agreed to. . Bills were ordered to be brought in, pur ' suant to them, and Mr.: ROSE 'and Mr. LUNG directed to prepare and bring them in. A new Writ was ordered, for the_ County of Oxford for ah Eledion of a Mernter l in the room of Lord CHARLES SP ENC ER i , who has accepted • of the office of joint Postmaster. •. Mr. Pin . ' took notice, that'a Motion on the State of the Nation stood for. to.:riforrow, and another from another Hon. Member on the same subjed. for another day. He therefore suggested the propriety of making some fresh arrangements of the business on this subject. Mr. NICHOLLS observed, that notice of one •of the Motions had been given by him, but . he was desirous to be understood as having every disposition to accommodate :he personal conve nience of the Right Hon. Gentleman who had just taken notice of the matter. Here the business ended, or at least we could hear no more of it. FERROL EXPEDITION. Mr. STURT rose, in consequence of a. notice. he had given to move for an Inquiry into the Fer rol Expedition. He said, .he had .to bring forward. a Motion, which hehopeci' the House would feel it a duty on it to support. First - , he begged it4o be .tinderstood, that he did not on any account what ever mean to say any thing.disrespiafa of the charaaer of the Hon. General who carrimanded ihat Expedition, nor any ,thing against the Hon. Gentleman who planned' it ; .but he did thiniti . that there was about that subjei samething so peculiarly unfOrtunate, not to say disgraceful, - that. the CountrV• had a fair and a just right to :have ,that Expedition. brought before the House ; ancLindeed he was more strongly of thiOvinion. when.he recnileeled. what had been.said upon this' subjea,. as well as upon another, when a certain Hon: Gentleman •expressed his regret that aMo tion of which notice 'had been given, had not been brOught before the 1-louse, to afford to the . persons:whose conduit, was the objet of it, an opportunity of explaining that --condnecte: He wished, and indeed' he tr us t e d t h at t h ei Hon. General who,commanded this Expedition, might explain tin- whole of it to the sa.tisfaaion of the House and of the Public ; 'but he did think that the subjea..ought .to' be inquired into,--Ti iit there W'Ri reason- for', - unglue somewhere upon this subjea, he took tole a point 'sOclear e that every min would confess it ; the question then was,: M , lere: that, censure otiglit 'to rest ?"'lbis was the only objet'} he had` in view by calling .for this Inquiry. . He had . no enmity against any man livin&; he Was only diScharging his public duty by what he was .now dOing..- it was very well known :that the Artptimet*Nybieh was so up : fortunate-at Ferro_ .had ben lking:for, some tune .at QUiberon. Upon the conduitollhat Arm.. 'tent at Vereol, he, was about eo call the attention: of thoßOtisc;:and:iliat he thought necessary from the cniitradi4fintY opinions AO had been-ex. pressed :by difFerent - Offieers of that Armament, as wall; as between•the. two: bran Ches of the Ser vice of which it, was compnrk He meant ~the Army and the ; Navy. —Hejaelieeed, it would !not be denied, that considerable-disappointment • tbllowed the course which Ow - ,F.`xpedition, took. Some.. or these. copies of • disappointment • he Woad: touch upon, but he would not'- go any ' farther 'than apPeared to be absolutely. neces. nary. • Nothing omthe face. of the earth .would make him exceed "that which appeared to him to be h4' duty, 'nor, was there any . considera tion that Should-induce hini , to :.decline it.•,-- That this Armament ivai' - stiPpOrted ley "naval skill and abjlity; was beyond! all doubt; ' atid that there were,,Otlictf who 444 4n;:iquoli-scpiimwas indisputable. Here he 'describeth-theo:saititig , Of the Fleet from _Quiberoa r aud-of.the landing of the Troops on the zeth .of August, ;without a man being .wounti.:Fl, or the smallesr accident ,happening to any .part of .the , Army, and, the GenerAt.,said,., in. his official,dispatekes,it*, his ,first 'objea was in landing and gaining the heights, to; see. how ! , fax, it, , was praaicable to carry, the Town—Mr. Sruttr said, diet although,he was, no Military man, he thought hc might Judge ofsome things in this Expedition, and it appeared to kip extraordinary, that 1 tiOoo men should land and fail to.gain their objet, when it was the Opinion-of some, that, 2000 would have been sufficient for that : purpose; It appeared, that after they land- . ed, they had a few skirmishes, but that. they gaincd..the .1 - leights which continanded and over- look&.1 th:.. Town ;- and they, had Artillery, and ~ every thing that was necessary for the:purpose of the undertaking. So much .W.ery ,the,Men'satis tied,i4 'the advantage they had gained after ;they lidded; .and had:gained: the which COlll - The• Town, that they congratulated the General on .their situation, and.said,v that within two ,hours. They would be in possession of the TcA , n: ' "open this occasion an Engineel,• whose ability and service to his Country were well 'known, said to the General, be thou* the Town might be taken, for there was to oppose our Men only a wall of a few feet, on which no.:Can—, non was mounted, and only a very few ;of the Encmy - at the Fort, and very few were in the Town ; and some of our Troops wanted to at tack th Fort immediately ;. but he understood they were ordered to lay under cover of the wall, but not _petraittedio acivarm„Altrays_Qfkcc,% 6 Colonel STEWART, was- ettrir-roettfteled skirmish ; but if he had not met With that .un. 'fortunate accident, he must - -haieygot-into a-plac e where he Would have got a considerable quantiry - of Stores, and if followed up at that time,. ;MW probably it -would have produced the Surrendiii . ; of Ferrol. He did -not "say-that this not.being done was owing-to the conautt of thc-Hon : Gene._ ral who c.9,mmnded the Expedition ; but as..ther e was a differcncokon that .subjeaittilieViroi;AZ the Officers of that Army, the,best, ii;d indeed.the only regular way for the House to Foceed, ..was to order, 'anjuqniirinto the, .IpAtte,•.kriclit .was. ' impossible for the - Hon:General himself to resist -an Inquiry in that 140nse i taeinaied he thought - it wpttid - have been - honourable - in -- him 4 - o ;}taus dethanded a Military Court of Inquiry 'into his cOnduel on that occasion: It was stated w him as a thing Well known, that .at the .time can 'troops landed, there twurei not at Ferro wards of 2000 men Of-the .Eneink. in all, and bay' they could poss,ibly, have resisted the force df r O OOO of our men, it they hid attacked,, he cowl not conceive: If this be s o , he could only say, ix was very bad tastele &Cline the attempt-of taking this place, and - a thing which must appear :ex, traordinary to every Englishman: When it Svaa remembered what Englishmen had so often dot*, ‘, to be deterred by the paltry obstacles that were preiented to them in this case, Was extraordinary:. to such men, and a thing that excited his surpriz‘ . . HoweVer they were ordered to re.embark,, , ,ant great divisions arose fromlhe orders for the re. embarkation—very -strong. opiiiihni7 had . : - bee:u . given against that order s and a small part..of that force that Was ordered tb ft:etrkbai*.hatt said, -tfutt: if they had been allowed .to iry, ; they: v.;.041," themselves have taken this place: , This, -he thought; -war . -of-. it 7 .lfmouoti for an-inettro-- r , The, Town .. w is siaied :to Trin TO - 13F - Tri . stiCh"e state of :fear,and'abgen,.7that. alt' .the Met-Chant& had . assembled: tri•gett4, -. . the . Town . v; ms preparing to capitulak,i but General newer summondit rti do so. fiLlisiT6ot inquire tc'he.. Cher .they would capitulateher-rot.— 'his, he apprehen4d ;tat be mer . frf:Ntilordin ar y ; hr could not. conceive why_t&i..teneral 11144 not think proper lo summon the Town to stxri6fiderz he was not - very sanguine - gig:the order this. Intjuity 4 bui.4ao-cm. • fessed it did appear to:littn bt, no rtiote:thax, common= justice to the . Ofticers.447.4rrny.lii;op-,, into this Incluitj'; becaihe..tliey suppose that a stigma wiis left. upon 'their chi. raaers itt Consequence of this unfOrtunate business; such was . thefeeling and apprehensiop . Of .i - g fr . * many Officers `at . least.—lt-was ''s_tised.Als.o. tli`4 .., the General called a Council :of. .•VVr;;-14 0sv fir: . - he was right in his stat'ertient, thelion;..Geluird4 himself would say ; but was-ififolitta that the . Engineer who had given his tlpinion to the C;enertit that the Town might easily be;i:aktft, was ncr-: 'sunlnioneci to this Council of .War he appieheoded, was sufficient ground for dr.: House to go into ;in Inquiry into this. , Ant4inetkez: :because, supposing that tivo or Ilirielitiricfrisk men might have. been-lost in the enterprise (the .1 value of whose lives he did not mean to under,...' rate), j7ret still heappreheitdo thst, - speakingli.F a military sense, theacrplisition would have been, worth the sacrifice.' • The Army were,however,, kept resting on their: Arms. . They could see . ; every thing,of the Town from the Heights, anal. - so confident 7/ere the Sailor's of vi&Ory; that .lin ' the sight of the place they gaVe threc,,eheera.-- , They wanted to' land,. for they had promise' themselves a great deld of wealth . .. Such. Alibi. si the alarm of the Enemy in• the ciarris* .. - that they' - got across the water, .nod went awif.', '. The . Ships were not above ii‘'e hundred ya*, ' • from, the ~lFos,t,i and if. ..we , had then:taken.pos,..• '.. session of 'tfie Fort, s tlitre . wilulpnbt ' Wave :lief* arly . resiaanee 'of . the rEst., F,rorn - these' 4irCtlirt.: - , stances,. he thought the -, Nation..*l4ge:widterfl . and 'called *for all In qDi rk - i ii to .- fhius . );,lll“,,..':ltk. wished :to . knoW whether t thu, treasurcol,;lll4.. j 'ain.i tion was to -be squandbred •-aW/4•'.Winfitlfai2".. . fruitless • EkphiitiOnS, withoqt :Atm.f,./.1 1 1(101r,t14:- itr.lg Made .into them ? -He apprcheiured An - 4tbr , c• . : Expedition did not-cost Less ithan . f6pr tuilfigais4S*'• money. : fife : did not lao‘s• otizely • sVhatb.o • : : sum wm,:htit - he 'believed it Nos thereabouts, 'ter; these Expeditions.wite eno imousl v 'eypensie::,• ; -•,,' 3 Such. was the. _opinion: Of, - tli,,,Nay.y tiptu _thin , stibjea, .that -a body of seven :hundred . . men ••tin.. derfook to - take she Fort in 7.s,eninittes. l'hef.le.:,'' neral,lOwever, would riot allow, thes_Atfack . :Ai* s ; • 'Made, for. which he would , of . courto:nthtitt,a‘.7 . sigrrhis- IGaDVII 1 - tur -., ,, diartsfaelory -- yas - Afts ‘ ,. condutli-tO some of . mit Ith . ret, .tha . on.stiti-iiitte . . I •was a mob,. vlli'cli..l;r64 „nut into iticaost open . I mutiny, and it xi•a - s..ivit,ll great klitiiculty ibat they .! were, kept. under. ;11;ii ,vv..ts- an4„t*r roco...3thirc, the•HouSe should . ' institute , ariiiltitiity iiiiciltits' nratt - er. - The ISltilorS tt'utetittiiii 1:14 tl et of itit • ' General With deiisijn, ' foi wheil - ,therlooliit‘, Prix-ateer; they said they did it as..i...lesson'to the"...; , . - General: 'Here' Mr. Swtmur :proceeded :to re,adr _ certain •.Letter; which 'he- bad retteived Ilia ioai( , :.: Offie.lts of the twolirunches - ..0f ;I 15.e . l . ' , '„iZ 6. 'c'Pn- .• cerned in this Expedition, in confitmationlf .!, ~,,,, what he had said on the subjeCt—Being asked by . an . ' Honourahlr • Member •to ' nine - :the :Authors, he said that if ) the , Inquiry was, ' ranted he should think hiMself hound in honour to give in the naipcs of the Officers from ,Whom , these letters came, but he d?d not cilia.' it 'would be either icgtilar or,:fair •td . do SO if, the lipuse. , should refuse the inviry. lie said tharhe had no personal enmity : whatever .. .against . any indivi- : dual, to adate hilii in the concluet which - he was , • now ,pursuing,, bUt he thought the Public Ought' . to be acquainted with the real.6use of our retre a t from Ferrol, when there appeared to be •so m.tich 4 '.- reason for - expeding ; -therac9bmpltslirrient .ofzthac ! ~: 1 Expedition. .As fir as fie had known or heard ..r: .. «-. ~