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PETITIONS O? PRIVATE BILLS. HOUSE OF COMMONS. (fl,yosi before Mr. Examiner 5.91-rn,) C rosED LIST. In tho following unopposed cases the customary proofs wt,te comT;liad with Leith Exten sion). Edinburih, Jatth, and Grantor ( Edinburgh, Leith , an d Granton ( U n i on Canal and Cale donian Junction.) EASTEUN COUNTIES RAILWAY (HERTFORD TO iirrcuis). In the above unopposed ease the standing orders were found not to have been complied with, inasmuch as the re quisite capital was not deposited in due time with the Ac countant-General. OPrOF.ED IJST. WISIIAW AND COLTNESS. The opposition to thisp e tition was closed, but the decision w ill not be given till to-morrow., CALEDON lAN ( BRAN LDI N 1 ES).6, it STATION AND CH. In this case, also, the opposition was closed, but the deci sion was postponed. CALEDONIAN (MUNCHES FROM CLYDESDALE 3 UNCTION ). The opposition to this case occupied the rest of the day; it was adjourned. (Room 23, before Mr. Examiner Mar.) UNOPPOSED LIST. In the following unopposed cases the customary formal proofs were completed : Northern Counties Union Railway Deviation. Newport, Abergavenny, and Hereford Deviation. Newport, Abergavenny, and Hereford (Extension to Tall Vale Railway. Midland Great' Western of Ireland (Extension from Athlone to Galway). I . 9rtadown and Dungannon Railway. CORNWALL AND DEVON. - This adjourned rase was then resumed, but it had not closed when the Examiner rose. LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF QUEEN'S BENCH, Feb. 2. IVILYLNSON C. BEADM.N. This was an action to recover 211. 7s. Gd. for work and labour. The defendant denied his liability beyond 151. The plaintiff is a manufacturing engineer, carying on business in Crosby-place; the defendant, Captain Beaden, was formerly an officer in the navy, and was stated to be a gentleman of great mechanical skill. It apeared that the defendant had invented a plan, by which $ person sitting in a carriage Ea*ht, by touching a xrin& raise or lower top of the vvhicle. and that he em y the plaintiff to construct practical model, with which, it seemed, he was satisfied. ► great number of witnesses were examined. Those on one side stated that the charge was a fair ens, whilst those on the other held that it was too high. The jury, however, found a verdict for the plaintiff for 17Z COURT OF EXCHEQUER. —Feb. 8. (Sittings at Nisi Prins, before the LOAD CHIEF IlinOß and Common Juries.) ALLEN P. SHARPE. In this cause Sir F. Thesiger and Mr. Ogle appeared for the plaintiff, Mr. Whitehurst and Mr. Pasbley for the defendant. The action was brought to recover the value of certain goods, the property of the plaintiff, which had been seized by the defendant, in his capacity as collector of taxes. The question to be decided, which was one of some impor tance to the keepers of " commission stables," was, whether a party holding what are termed commission stables for the sale of horses, who was not a purchaser of them, but merely received a commission on their sale, was liable for the pay. merit of the horse dealer's license. The plaintiff was the proprietor of the commission stables in St. Martin's-lane, known as " Aldridge's," and where sales of horses were regularly made, and until the period of the sale arrived, the horses intended for sale were kept, but if not sold at the sale they were returned. The defendant, being a tax-collector, had charged the plaintiff with the amount chargeable under the horse-dealers' linens% and made a claim for the sum of 271. 10s., which not being paid, defendant put in an execution and seized the goods of the plaintiff in satisfaction thereof The present action of replevin was therefore brought. The Court decided, after having heard the evidence in the case, that an action in the form of replevin could not be maintained, and it was finally arranged that a verdict should be taken for defendant, subject to the case being made special, for the purposeof coming on for argument before the Court. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. The Loma MAYOR, upon taking his seat in the justice room, stated, that in consequence of the publication of the complaint by Mr. Austin, the ',proprietor of 1. eele a Cotlee house, of the unauthorised reference made to that establish ment by a fellow who advertised fur a wife, he had rece i ve d the following letter "Lytchett-house, Poole, Feb. 2, 184" " Mrs. G Lordreathed presents her complime n t s t o the Lord Mayor. She incloses a paper which will evince how unfor tunate it is for the poor woman that a paragraph has found its way into a paper so extensively read as the Ti mes , giving a report of his Lordship's mentioning that Corder btained his wife through an advertisement. It was natural the Lord Mayor should allude to the circumstances, as it is men tioned in the trial in the ' Annual Register' of 1828. It true, the poor widow has paid the penalty ' • but it i s thought to have been an aspersion upon the widow by a near relative of the murderer, in order that be should not be en cumbered by her and her unfortunate son. Every inquiry has been carefully made, and the highest character la given of Mrs. Corder by those in the neighbourhood of Polstead. She has struggled during nineteen years for her support. At last everything has been seized and cold, and her mind is be come toe unsettled to do anything. The hope is to raise a sum which will be placed in the hands of a careful and well known person, who will dole it ouo for the maintenance of Mrs. Corder and her son. "Nothing can tend ao much to destroy the impression at present made upon the public as the Lord Mayor and some of his friends kindly affording an addition to the subscription open at Hatchard's." The paper enclosed by Mrs. Greathed is as follows: " Appeal on behalf of Mrs. Mary Corder, widow of William ;order, who was executed in 1828, for the murder of Maria Martin. Some ladies, to whom Mrs. Corder is personally known, and who hare made careful inquiries as to ter history throughout her life, have (unknown to her) drawn up this appeal to the sympathy of the public. Mrs. Corder, preli m's to her marriage, was a governess, highly respected by her pupils and their parents. She is now in the deepest dis tress, her mind being in some degree affected by her severe affliction, and being also a sufferer from almost total Her only son, beep about the time of the discovery of the murder, is deficient in intellect, and his right side is para lysed. They a re in want of clothing end means to pro cure hod, and of but little occupation. Mrs. Corder supported end her son for some time by hemming cravats for a shop, and letting lodgings, bat owing to her state of health both these rowanss are at an end. The fond raked will be carefully expended for Mrs. Corder by a com petent person. " Donations will be gratefully received bedeasrs. Hatch and and Co., 187, Piccadilly, London; Mr. Basler, 124, Oxford street,- London ; Mr. Johnstone, 15, Princess-street, Edin burgh; Mr. Bowner, George-street, Hastings; Mr. Reeve, Leamington ; Mr. Simms, Bath." The list of subscriptions exhibited no more than the total tram of 51. 17s. 6d. The Loan Micron said, nothing was further from his ima gination at the time he alluded to the circumstance to which the lady who had done him the honour to write to him re ferred, than the idea that the observations he had made would Piave been prejudicial to an appeal based upon so unques tionable a claim upon the sympathies of the benevolent. In quoting the case, of which he had spoken merely upon the authority of hearsay, his only object was to caution females against being attracted by advertisements in newspapers to form such serious engagements, and he thought he could not more clearly mark his intention than by instancing what ap peared to him to be the strongest of all evidence of the ne cessity of peculiar circumspection. Much of the corres pondence which Mr. Austin had very properly taken posses sion of showed remarkable credulity, and was calculated to excite unmixed commisseration for the poor girls who were so eager to venture upon such perils, and he had observed, that that gentleman had expressed a most decided objection to the publication of anythihg which might point at any one of the writers. A gentleman who was in the justice-room when the Lord Mayor made the foregoing statement and remarks, said he had been given to understand that no " matrimonial inquirers" had been referred to Peele's Coffee-house since the application had been made to his Lordship on the subject. The Dann MAYOR said he had felt that the press would at once put an end to the nuisance. He believed, too, that through the same powerful and benevolent medium, the un fortunate widow, whose case was in every respect one of most awful calamity, would find some friends. As for him self, he should certainly not forget the ingenious, but most humane suggestion in the concluding paragraph of his fair correspondent's communication. WORSHIP-STREE T. Yesterday Daniel and Mary Ann Dowling, husband and wife, the former stated by the police to have been before convicted of felony, were placed at the bar before Mr. Broughton, for final examination upon numerous charges of robbery and burglary. A poor Irish couple named Sweeney, living in Anne's art, Peter-e.C.ee4 Westminster, stated that is July last the prisoners called to visit the husband, who happened to be out at the time, and had no sooner taken their seats than the male prisoner asked the wife (Mrs. Sweeney) to accom pany him up stairs to the room of another lodger, whom he said he had not seen fo r some time. She accordingly pro ceeded there with him, leaving her Aster with Mrs. Dow ling, and almost immediately afterwards beard a loud crash in her own aartment when, looking over the bannisters, s h e saw the two women has. with a large bundle, which tening down sta rs neither of them' had upon entering the house. On examining her room she found that a trunk, containing some a silver and all her husband's beef clothes, together with large quantity of her own wearing apparel, bad been broken open and the whole of its contents carried off. O n going infamous conduct, • stairs to apprize the male prisoner of his wife's conduct, she found that he had decamped also, and all trace of either of them had been entirely lost until she heard they were in cust o dy upon ot h er c h arg es of a similar description. Sweeney himself added, that having discovered that the ac oefolralopwliedce is therobbery had immediately gone to Ireland , he when she handederti and brought her back to this country, the plunder, and so earnestly about 235., which was her portion of earnestly entreated his forgiveness, en the ground of th e persuasion . and inducements held out to her by the two prison ers consented to set h er a• tin the robbery, that he ulti matelyliberty. The witnesses now identified numerous articles of a pawnbroker, at whose shop wearing produced by was committed, as beingb ppalretdgofedthtohsee same day the robbery stolen. magistrate that since the Sergeant Sanders informed the n possession addition to the quantity of prisoners had been in custody, in sge i of, he had discovered duplicates he was already no less than forty more at a rorrner lodging tiprisoners, tlrn of pe l h e l d them. from which they had decamped and le EiTil ro ed w Norah Mrs. Sweeney 's sister, a young wom an iLelpin, was then admitted a witness for the n haying clearly established the fact of the robbery u p o n ,' a t t poor Irishman, the prisoners, both of whom denied with the greateat effrontery all knowledge of it, were fully committed or trial, the male prisoner upon one, and his wife upon all three charges. SOUTH TVA 171 C. Yesterday Jrilliana Barfield, the night porter at the Catherine Wheel Inn, in the Borough, charged with stealing a7pocket-book containing 300/., the property of Mr. Skipper, under the circumstances already detailed, appeared upon his recognisances to hear the depositions of the several witnesses read over, preparatory to the case being sent fort' ial.. When the name of the p rinci p al witness (M. Skipper) was called, it was found that he was not in attendance, anand his absence from the court was accou nted for by a gentlem named Burbidge, a solicitor, who stated that Mr. Skipper .rats prevented from being present owing to to the apprehen sion he entertained of being arrested Qll his leaving the court. Tilt suk, LONDON, TURSDAY PPBRTJARY P 1847 Mr. Burbidge then applied for the restoration of the 3001., which was found, as already described, in the street near the Catherine Wheel, when the parties were going to the station house after the prisoner was g►ven into custody. Tho appli cant then produced a writtan authority from Mr. Sliipper tOr the whole of the above sum, describing that he 17A9 in _ . IT:Mt of it ts) 211!!ble him fn arror;ie Rome pecuniary matters, so that he could attend the court without the risk of being arrested. Mr. Corriscium, in reply to the application, said that he had no objection to order a portion of the 3001. to be delivered up to the gentleman who was empowered with the authority of the owner to receive it; but that he should retain the remainder in order to insure the attendance of Mr. Skipper to prosecute the charge. It was a case of much public im portance, and, in justice to the accused, was one which required the fullest investigation before another tribunal. He added, that if the prosecutor himself came forward, heard the depositions read over, and entered into the required re cognizances to appear at the Central Criminal Court, the whole of his money should be given up to him. Mr. Burbidge repeated that his client was fearful of appearing in consequence of the circumstances he had pre viously related, but that it was his full determinatien to pro- secute the charge. Mr. COITINGIIAM remneked, that he should issue a sum mon: to compel the prosecutor's attendance, and that upon that process he would be perfectly free from arrest for debt while coming to that Court to give evidence, and until his departure. Mr. Burbidge said, that Mr. Skipper would be liable to arrest immediately after his departure, and that it was to avoid that casualty he was not present on that occasion. lie added, that notwithstanding some imputations had been cast upon the character of Mr. Skipper, owing to the way is which he occupied himself on the night of the alleged robbery, in riding about and calling at different public-houses about sweepstakes before his arrival at the Catherine Wheel bin with his relative, Hr. West, yet that he was a highly respect able "young man ; was possessed of independent property ; had large expectations, and for the last two years, to his (Mr. Burbidge's) knowledge, occupied a residence called Albert-villa at Whetstone ; that he was only 23 y ears of age, and, like many young men at that period of life, was rather gay and volatile in his habits. He again repeated that Mg. Skipper was in much want - of the whole of the money, and that he would be sure to attend the next ex amination if another adjournment took place. Mr. Humphries, on the behalf of the accused, urged the necessity of a thorcasgh investigation into this most serious case, and at the same time observed that a summons issued from this court would preserve the peoeecutor from arrest; and, in the event of his caption after quitting the court, on an application to a judge detailing the facts of the case, there was no question but his immediate liberation would be orlared. The liaanstaavn was perfectly aware of that faccand he forthwith issued a summons against the prosecutor, who, how ever, declined to attend, on the grounds before stated. Mr. Burbidge subsequently applied for the restoration of 1001. out of the 800 L, offering to leave 2001. in the hands of the clerk of the court. Mr. Corrnrosam, after some reflection, considered it so ' essential for the sake of public justice that Mr. Skipper should attend to prosecute the chugs, that he declined to acceda to the proposition, unless he was assured by the solicitor that the money was required fur the purpose of enabling him to attend at the court to give evidence. Mr. Burbidge, however, could sot undertake to state that such was the fact,' although he was confident his client, who had already given him inetructions for tie prosecution, would attend at the trial. After some further discussion on the subject, the magistrate said that the summons not being attended to, he should issue a warrant to compel tha eo lainant's attendance. The depositions of the wiiasee were then read over by Mr. Edwin, the chief clerk; and when he arrived at the evidence given by the three policemen, 101 M, 191 M, and 30 M, they stood forward and stated that they omitted to mention on the previous examination that when they were called to the Catherine Wheel to take the prisoner into cus tody, Mr. Skipper informed them that be had searched the man, and found nothing in his possession, and that was the reason they (the policemen) did not consider it necessary to institute another examination of his person. Mr. Corriamissi expressed hie astonishment that the po licemen should have neglected to mention so important a fact when before him on the last occasion, but he remembered having questioned them separately on the subject of search ing the accused before they left the Catherine Wheel for the station-house, and that neither of them paid one word about that which they now assorted upon oath was said by the prosecutor to them. Mr. Humphries urged the necessity of adding' this new testimony to the depositions, and this being taken down, a further adjournment of the case took placvin order to have the prosecutor's evidence to complete the c MARLBOROUGH-STREET. HAzzARn c. TarLon.—Thie case, which contained some points of interest, was heard last week, and Mr. Bingham delivered the following judgment upon it this morning:— In this case, Elizabeth liamard took out a summons against Mastic Taylor, fbr detaining, as she alleged, without just cause, the duplicate of a velvet gown, pawned by her. In answer to the complaint, Taylor asserted that he re ceived the duplicate from Mrs. Ilazzard, as security for the pay ment of a billet exchange for 101., dated April 11,1843, and ac cepted by the husband of thecomplainant, payable three months after date. T his bill, which he declared he had discounted 1 for Mrs. Ilazaard, was dishonoured when due, and still re mained in his bands unpaid. Mrs. Hazzard admitted the transfer of the bill and its non-payment, but insisted that although she had paid Taylor a considerable sum by way of interest in advance on this and another bill of 12/.. she had never received a farthing from him in respect of the 101. bill. She further declared that the duplicate she now sought to recover was not delivered to Taylor at the same time as the 101. bill, but some weeks afterwards, when she was seeking to raise a further sum of 501. Hazzard called two witnesses, one of whom bad heard her upon two occasions, about three years ago, ask Taylor for the amount of a bill, when Taylor, instead of giving a direct answer, turned oil the conversation to some other subject. The other witness said, that about the same period he had ' made several applications for the amount of this bill at the request of Mrs. Ilaasard, but bad always been put off, and that afterwards, when he has applied for a number of Mrs. hiaszard'a duplicates, Taylor said he bad lost them or left them in the country. The statement of these witnesses is not irreconcilable with the statement of Taylor. It may be that,saapecting the worthlessness of the bill of exchange, he refused to advance money on it till he received the daplicates in question by way of security;: and the application for the money spoken of by the witnesses may have been made after the delivery of the bill, and before the delivery of + the duplicate, and the manner in which Mrs. Ilazaard has delivered her testimony certainly does not en title her to a higher measure of credit than her opponent. There is, therefore, no evidence on which a court of justice could coine to any safe conclusion as to the main fact in content between these parties. But, independently of that act, I think that Taylor is, under the circumstances, entitled to retain the duphoste upon a principle of law from which it would be dangerous is depart. Taps produces a dishonoured UM of exehango, which, without further evidence on his part than the proof of handwriting, rah" the presumption of a debt due from the party at whose hands he received it. This presumptive liability can only be discharged by a proof of payment, or &proof of fraud; and ' the proof of fraud ought to be clear and conclusive, as every one is presumed to be free from crime till the contrary is shown. , [ It has already been pointed out that the proof by which it I, has been sought to establish fraud in the present ease is not only not conclusive, but is even compatible with the defend ant's innocence. And the coureqursued by the complainant herself is scarcely reconcilable with the charge she now ad vances. She is neither young nor inexperienced, nor deficient in abilities or energy to assert her rights and obtain justice when she is wronged. If the defendant had treated her in the way she now states she might have brought him before a police-court on a charge of fraud three. years and a half ago. After neglecting to take, that course when the alleged injury was recent and the facts fresh in the memory of witnesses, and ' her re sorting to it after a lapse of time, which must place serious difficulties in the way of defence, rather leads to the infer ence that the charge could never have been established. The present summons is therefore dismissed. INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT. ACCESSION of the KING of SAXONY to the CONVENTION CONCLUDED MAY 13, 1846, between GREAT BRITAIN and PRUSSIA, for the ESTABLISHMENT of INTERNATIONAL COPYRIGHT. SIGNED at BERLIN, AUGUST 24, 1846. Her Majesty the Queen of the United King dom of Great Britain and Ireland , and his Ma j est y the King of Prussia, having concluded at Berlin, on the 13th of May, 1846, a convention for the reciprocal protection of copy right against piracy, and it having been stipulated in Article 8 of that convention, that those German States which, together with Prussia, compose the German Union of Customs, or which may hereafter join that Union, should have the right of acceding to the said convention, their Britannic and Prussian Majesties have addressed to his Majesty the King of Saxony the invita tion to accede thereto ; And his Majesty the King of Saxony being desirous of availing himself of the opportunity thus afforded to him of acceding to the said Convention ; The respective ‘onipotentiaries, that is to say— On the part of liar Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, the Right Hon. John, Earl of Westmorland, Lord Burghersh, a peer of the United Kingdom, a member of her Britannic Ma jesty's Privy Council, a Liotitenant-General Commander of the Military Order of the Bath of England, Grand Cross of the Order of the Guelphs of Hanover, her Bri tannic Majesty's Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to his Majesty the King of Prussia: On the part of his Majesty the King of Prussia, the Sieur Erasmus Robert, Baron de Patow, his Privy Coun cillor of Legation, and Director of the Department for Foreign Affairs, Knight of the Orders of the Red Eagle of the third class with the clasp of Prussia, and of the House of Ernest of Ducal Saxony: And on the part of his Majesty the King of Saxony, the Sieur John de Minekwitz, his Minister of State, a Lieutenant-General and Aide-de-camp-General, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to their Majesties the King of Prussia and the King of Hanover, Knight of the Military Order of St. Henry, and Grand Cross of the Orders of Civil Merit of Saxony, of the Red Eagle of Prussia, of Leopold of Austria, of Civil Merit of Bavaria, and of the White Falcon of Grand-Ducal Saxony; decorated with the Medal of Military Merit of Grand-Ducal Saxony, Grand Cross of the Order of the House of Ernest of Ducal Saxony, Knight of else Order of St. Anne of the first class of Russia, Grand Officer of the Legion of Hon our of France, Grand Cross of the Military Order of St. Benedict d'Aviz of Portugal: Met together, for theturpose of recording in due form the accession of his Majesty the King of Saxony, as well as the acceptance, by her Britannic Majesty and his Prussian Majesty, of the said accession on the part of Ibis Saxon Majesty. in T e h o s u plenipotentiary of his Majesty the King of Saxony that his sai d May,Majesty sequence declares, is virtue of his full powers, ythich a print c accedes both to the convention of to the special the 13th1 846, containing ten articles, and of provisions aunexod to the present act, and the separate protocol contained in section 1-4 a copy is hereunto a nnexed; on the same day, of which pulations of the said convention promising that the sti of which shall come into operation i n the kingdom ptember of S axon y, f rom an d after the Ist of S e as well as those of the separate protocol , shall b e Saxony into execut i on by his Majesty the King o f S ax ne ail tio p u e s in w ts clic s b o tar as they may be applicable toythisr subsist between the Saxon Government in all Government and its subjects ; subject, howetvheer' British o iti t h express reservatio n, that Article U. of the Couventtio: shall be modified, with regard to Saxony, in the follow ing manner, that is to say : No person in either of the two countries, either in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, or in tho kingdom of Se.xony, shall be entitled to the protection stipulated by Article I. of the Convention, unless the work to be protected against piracy sbaii have been registered by the author or his agents, in the following manner .- 1. If the work 'has first appeared in the dominions of his Majesty the King of Saxony, it must have been registered in the register-book of the Company of Sta tioners in London. 2. If the work has first appeared in the dominions of her Britannic Majesty, it must have been registered in the register-book kept by the Royal Direction of the Circle (die Bachtrolle) at Leipsig. Nor shall any person be entitled to the protection aforesaid, unless the laws and regulations of the re spective States shall have been duly observed in regard to the work to be protected ; nor, in cases where there are several copies of the work, unless one copy of the best edition, or in the best state, shall have been de t livered gratuitously to the authorities appointed for tha purpose by the laws of the respective countries. A certified copy of the registration in the aforesaid register-book of the Company of Stationers in London, shall be valid in the British dominions as proof of the exclusive right of publication, until a better right shall be established by any other party before a court of jus tice ; and the certificate given under the laws of Saxony, of the registration of any work in the:aforesaid register book at Leipsig, shall be equally valid in the dominions of h sSetx on Majesty. The plenipotentiaries of her Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and of his Majesty the King of Prussia, in virtue of their full powers, accept the accession of his Majesty the King of Saxony, promirng that the stipulations of the conven tion of the 13th of May, 1846, as well as the special provisions which are conksined in the protocol of the same date, and those whMi form the reservation above mentioned, shall be carried into execution by their re spective Sovereigns in all points, with regard to the Saxon Government and its subjects, in the same manner as between the British and Prussian Governments and their subjects. In witness whereof the respective pl enipotentiaries have signed the present aot, and have , ffi ed thereto the seal of their arms. Done at Berlin, the twenty-fourth day of August, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty-six. (Biped) WxrrionLAND. r.LTOW. Dx Itisciwriz. (L.S.) (LS.) (LS.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 8. The'LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat upon the Wool sack at Five o'clock. On the motion of the Earl of CLARENDON, the Buck Wheat Impi:rtation cvtint through Committee. The Marquis of LANSDOW.NE laid on the table the report of the Factories' Inspectors. LOANS TO IRELAND. _ Earl FITZWILLIAR moved for an account of all the sums of money which had been advanced on loan by the Imperial Treasury for public and other works in Ire land since the union, and how far the condition upon which they were advanced had been complied with. An erroneous impression existed that money lent to Ireland was never repaid, and he was desirous et showing their Lordship that none were more punctually repaid. IRISH DISTRESS. Lord BROUGHAM presented another petition from Liverpool, complaining of the influx of Irish paupers into that town. The Noble and Learned Lord, at the same time, co mplained that a respectable morning print had held him up to the world as a person to whom it was quite immaterial whether the people were brought up in the Protestant religion or not. Now, so far from this being the case, the other evening he expressed the greatest distrust against the Romish church, though he entertained the highest respect for those who conformed to it, and declared his entire confidence in the Protestant faith. Indeed, none were more deeply anxious that it should be extended than he was. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE quite agreed with that portion of the Noble and Learned Lord's statement which had reference to Liverpool. lie trusted, however, that the rem , dies which the Government had pro posed for the relief of Ireland would give an additional stimulus to labour in Ireland ; and it was by creating that employment, and providing funds for its remuneration, that the poor of Ireland would cease to be burdens upon the people of this country, in the way complained of in the petition from Liverpool. Lord BROUGHAM sincerely hoped that the measures referred to by the Noble Marquis would have the effect he had stated, but he was not so sanguine as to believe that they would mitigate the distress in Ireland and pre vent the poor from immigrating to such places as Liver pool. A very large proportion of those unfortunate per sons thought that if they could only get over to Liverpool and be supported without work that it wouldbe preferable to a scanty 'subsistence purchased by their labour in Ireland. He believed that a poor-law which would, in periods of temporary distress, prevent myriads from , coming over here to feed upon the people of this country, was one of the best panaceas that could be devised. Lord MONTEAGLE quite agreed with his Noble, and Learned Friend, that it was their duty to devise wise and just remedies for the present condition of the people of Ireland ; but wherever there was a dispropor. tion between the wages and condition of the people of two countries, there would be a tendency to emigrate to that country where they might get better wages. It was a recognised principle all over the world—people, for instance, left Spain to obtain better employment in Lisbon; and people descended from the mountainous parts of Italy to those parts where the wages were higher and the condition of the people better. God forbid that he should make use of these remarks for the purpose of merely discouraging emigration, if such a course could be deemed beneficial to the people. But the question to be considered was how to prevent emigration by improving the condition of the people of Ireland. He thought that that measure was best adapted for the wants of the people which would find the labouring classes iniployment at home, and prevent them from propagating pauperism in other parts of the United Kingdom. At the same time, he held that one of the greatest blessings of this country was the immigration into it of the industrious Irish, where that immigration was only intended to be temporary and not permanent. What would England do during the period of harvest were it not for the Irish labourers? But then came the question of revenue, and he would venture to call their attention to the fact, that that remedy would be very limited in its result* which did not enhance the price of wages in Ireland ; for they might rest assured that when a higher social condition could be attained in other places, the labouring classes would not atop at home. He thought that the employment of a large proportion of the Irish labourers might be given in great and useful public works. He did not mean such works as had been sanctioned last session, but railways and the other works recommended to their notice in a previous year. These would, in a great mea sure, remedy the evils at present existing, provided they took care that they were not constructed for purposes of private speculation. At the same time, he wished them carefully to observe that they provided food for the 500,000 labourers at present employed during that period which must intervene when transferring them to other and more useful works. The real question which the House and Parliament had to consider was, not to forward the interests of any speculative companies, but to forward the execution of great and important works. Ile believed that some pro• position of this kind, carefully considered, should be agreed to, and applied to meet the transition state which they had to pass through. It would be a most serious matter to disband 500,000 men, an army in everything but name, without some provision, such as the one under consideration, for their employ ment.—(l-lear, hear.) He threw these observations out for the consideration of their Lordships, and rejoiced to say that the question had been introduced into the other House of Parliament. Of the latter proposition he would observe, that while the principle of employing the people in this way was most important, the application of it deserved the greatest possible attention and consideration. He had noticed with pleasure that the Government had advanced a loan of 20,0001. to a railway company the other day. In that they had shown a wise and just dis cretion, while they should take due care to distinguish efficient from useless works of this kind. He believed the transition state could not be passed through in any other way with satisfaction. Lord BROUGHAM explained that he had been mis understood in what he had stated about Irish emigrants. He complained that a large portion of the people of in u eto t a n ia d tre , eth*.rpoo who L w qu e liv r e e t:th be h g on f ege ars :dan by dtoin pr dth o utri tt o t ar h oh ad aractla c r r ere. e r d s who came over to this country, he MUSS bear his testi mony L o rd MONTEAGLE gave testimony to the same e ffect, and said that the emigration from the county with which he was connected was more with the United States tnan England. He had great pleasure in stating that from information he had received from New York old Irish emigrants in that country had, during the last should and be Le aloornkededLupoordn year, remitted to Ireland to their friends, for the purposes Liverpoollbledaily ya o t I.oo e rn o g n asi s n i e d sa, e l consider calamity. of emigration and charity no less a SUM than 160,0001. Earl FITZWILLIAM could testify to the truth of (Brougham) . what what bad fallepnlacfreoamt L t i he House of represented the opinion that the proposition of his Noble Friend, in the o ther P arliament (Lord G. Bentinck), was a measure to fill the bellies of the Irish If that were so, no remedy could be more in but it was not proposed for that pm , applicable ; but b a d more extensive objects in view, and was propose, A in conjunction with other rem meet the existing evils of Ireland. ' e wes also a great opportunity, and he visernrnent,not to let the opportunity slip by was • glad to hear that 20,000 L were to be them. advanced in aid of the Waterford and Limerick it would not do for merely an in dividual entreated great but Railway; b e generous in the present crisis to English community must be generous, and —the d U • - dto assist Irelan . nless it did so their step forward might depend upon it Ireland would dew- Lordships ii crisis i o s England could relieve Ireland, Id sink England. They were now in a that country won • and he warned their Lordships to take great crisis, n eglecting the opportunity it gave them, ot care, lest by affdp pose,seieeon sphadafftd, 3,e) tak en gat ;;;:etgwgeadai lov t ne h ire e n : tuht o ea u s s d e aa not do a mischief which could never be re they did medied. reminded the Noble riorate England. Unless The Marquis of WESTM E ATH of Irish paupers Liverpool , that it was the duty of the paupers into d them back. Gvernment ought, pa rish authorities to sen e w of mitigating the present however, with the vi e and Learned Lord who complained of the influx for reg ret before lie thought they would have occasion Besides, it long if they did not take the subject up. he eople possible that food might not be found for t . p was crisis, to encourage emigratio . n to the colonies. the wishes of the bent upon the Government to meet emigrating- people, and to afford them the means of then agreed to, The motion of Earl Fitzkilliam was hing all the advances during the next eight months; therefore it was incu with this addition—" distinguis works.' and repayments s ince the establish ment of the board of IRISH ESTATES. The Earl of MOLINTCASHEL moved for the pro duction of a r e t urn o f the total am ount of the sums appearing to be due for debt, damag es, and costs upon all decrees, orders, and judgments in Ireland , re docketed pursuant to th e Act of 9 Geo. IV., c. 35 , or registered pursuant to the 7th and Bth Viet., e. 90. and now appearing to be re-docketed or regis tered in the office for registering judgments in Ireland, distinguishing those which are in debt from those which are in case. He said the object of the return was to ascertain the amoun t to which the l and in Ireland was liable, and whi c h i t was no t too deeply involved to offer sufficient se cur ity f or t h e re payment of the loans to be made by th e G overnmen t. 10,450,000/. into any H e wanted not lo ply individual's affairs ; all he desired was to know what amount of charges was upon the land. He had himself made a calculation himself, and he found that the total rental of Ireland was 13,000,0001., the charges upon that rental amounted to maligned people, some 3 ,000,000/. to send. If Government, therefore, imposed some ten ore leven millions upon the land lordsand andthe landlords had therefore only they would only crush them, and. in so doing, crush the country. He made these remarks in order to of Ireland. prove that the landlords of Ireland were a much doubt; but like many es " of the people of Ireland more than they did. that no one considered the inter- The LORD C HANCELLOR said that the Noble Lord unattai nable. -- --(Laughter.) was undoubtedly anxious to obtain information as to the amount of encumbrances on the estates iint D l u a b b i o j u n r , e l d ,iw u r r e id n er r_egi t s h t is Is d ,, is , at k lv e ai t it o a i g . That W as a desirable object no The e he f r act w d e a s t : r t a h b a l t e the ob o j ffi ec ce ts r , e the th j a u t dg i m t e 'v' n ' t a s s , had no means of € . l. • ' •P ascertaining whether any or all the amount of s m ortgage were pa id o ff. T rue t h ey h a d got the amount of the judgment entered to a certain date, but that would give no idea of the amount of charges on the land. A Noble and Learned Lord (Lord Brougham) had with himself informed the Noble Earl on a former occasion that this was the case, but he ap peared to have treated their information with some dis respect. He (the Lord Chancellor) had therefore written to the office in Dublin, and ho would read to the Noble Earl the answer he had received:—" I beg to state for your Lordship's information that those several sums for which judgment have been obtained, appear in the books of the office as originally m•,_ , rked, but I have no materials to enable me to ittccrtain whether or not, or what p.:,r tion of such sums have been paid; nor have I materials to enable me to distinguish what mortgage is paid, or what is not. I beg leave to acid, that this trifling return, if commanded, will impede the business of the office.—l have the honour to be," Sec.—Now, information was good, but erroneous information was worse than no in formation at all. He thought, theref4re, that the Noble Lord would see reason to withdraw his motion. Lcrd MOUNTCASHEL was desirous of the infor mation being received, as it was most important to the interests of those who had property in Ireland. Lord MONTEAGLE hoped that the Noble Lord would withdraw the motion, as it was impossible to get the returns correctly made. Lord MOUNTCASHEL, in deference to the feeling of the House, withdrew the motion. THE CHELSEA PENSIONERS' BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. POOR REMOVAL BILL The LORD aFIANe'ELLOR, in the absence of Lord Portman, gave notice for that Noble Lord that he would on Thursday next present a petition from Blandford against the provisions of the Poor Removal Bill. The House then adjourned, at half-past six. ROUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 8. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. SECOND READINGS. The follovking Bills were read a. second time, and ordered to be committed:— Aberdeen Railway (Brychin Branch Deviation). Aberdeen and Great North of Scotland Railways (Amal- garnation or Leasing). Arbroath and Forfar and Scottish Midland Junction Railways Connecting Railway. Buckingham and Brackley Junction Railway, and Ox ford and Bletchley Junction Railway Companies Amalgamation and Extension of Lines. Caledonian and Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock Rail- ways Amalgamation. Caledonian Railway (Lease or Purchase of the Glasgow, Barrhead, and bleilston Direct, and the Glasgow Southern Terminal Railways). Clarence Railway and Leeds and Thirak Railway Amal gamation. Eastern Union Railway (Branch from Manningtres to Harwich). Exeter, Yeovil, and Dorchester Railway and Branches. Fleetwood, Preston, and West Riding Junotion Railway (Burnley and Colliery Branches). Glasgow, Dumfries, and Carlisle Railway, and Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 1). Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (No. 5). Glasgow, Paisley, and Greenock Rail way (Amendment and Branches to the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr, the Glasgow, Barrhead and Neilston, and Glasgow, Strathaven, and Lesmahagow Railways, and to Haugh Pits). Gloucester and Dean Forest Railway (Construction of Docks). Huddersfield and Manchester Railway (Deviation and . Alterations in Oldham Branch, &c.) Huddersfield and Manchester Railway and Canal (Branch from Oldham to Aston and Guido Bridge). Ipswich and Bury St. Edmund's Railway (No. 2) (Ex tension from Bury St. Edmund's to Newmarket and Ely). Leeds, Dewsbury, and Manchester Railway (Extension to Wakefield, and Junction at Methley With the Wake field, Pontefract, and Goole, and the York and North Midland Railway). Liverpool, Crosby, and Southport Railway and Branch. London and North-Western Railway (Lease and Pur chase of the Huddersfield and Manchester Railway and Canal, and the Leeds, Dewsbury, and Manches __ ter Railway). Manchester and Leeds Railway (Alteration of Levels of Brighouse Branch of the West Riding Union Rail• way and New Line into Leeds). Manchester and Leeds Railway (Branches, Extensions, Deviations, Alterations of Levels, and other Works). Manchester and Leeds Railway (Branch from the Had. dersfield and Sheffield Junction Railway to Barnsley, and Extension of Holmfirth Branch). - Midland Railway (Syston and Peterborough Railway, Deviations, and Approach to Manton Station). Midland Railway (Extension from near Leicester, vita Bedford, to Hitchin, and to Northampton and Hunt- ingdon, and Enlargement of the Leicester Station). Midland Railway (Leicester and Swannington Railway, Widening, Deviations, and Branches, Enlargement of Leicester Station, and extending powers as to Ibstock Branch). South-Eastern Railway (Widening of the Greenwich Railway, and Arrangement and Enlargement of the London-bridge Station). South-Eastern Railway (London-bridge Station Arrange ment and Enlargement). Southampton and Dorchester Railway (New Forest De viation and Branches). West Cornwall Railway (Branches to St. Ives and Nor wayman's Wharf, and Construction and Enlargement of Quays at Hayle). Wilts, Somerset, and Weymouth Railway (No. 2). PETITIONS. Mr. BODKIN presented a petition from the Corpora. Lion of Rochester against one of the South-Eastern Rail way Company's projects. Sir R. H. INGLIS presented several petitions in fa vour of a ten hours' Bill. Colonel WOOD and Sir J. TROLLOPS presented se 'feral petitions against the Poor Removal Bill. Mr. POWER presented several petitions against the importation of spirits into Ireland free of duty. The Marquis of DOURO presented a petition from Norwich, praying the House to establish a national fund for the support of the poor. Mr. THORNELY presented a petition from Wolver hampton praying for the abolition of the import duty on copper ore. Mr. FERRAND presented several petitions in favour of a ten hours' Bill. Mr. EDWARD BULLER presented a petition against the Poor Removal Bill. Lord BANDON presented petitions from Liverpoo% praying fur the abolition of the duty on tea and the inn• port duty on oopper ore. Lord BROOKE presented a petition in favour of a ten hours' Bill. Mr. 8. CRAWFORD presented a petition from Bolton in favour of a ten hours' Bill. Mr. BANIEEB and Mr. 0. STANLEY presented several petitions against the Poor Removal Bill. Lord FIOTHAM presented a petition from the East Riding of Yorkshire, complaining of the operation of this Act, which was passed last session. NEW ZEALAND COMPANY. Mr. HAWES presented a petition from settlers in Nelson, New Sourh Wales, complaining that the New Zealand Company bad not fulfilled the representations which they made on their emigrating ; that they had not expended the money which they had engaged to do, and praying the House to endow them with legislative power in order that they might be enabled to sue the agent of the company. IRISH POOR-RATES. Mr. S. CRAWFORD gave notice that, on Thursday next, he should move for leave to introduce a Bill for the purpose of faeilitating the payment of the poor-rates in Ireland. EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC MONEY WITHOUT PASSING THROUGH THE EXCHEQUER. Dr. BOWRING gave notice that to-morrow he should propose a series of resolutions for the adoption of the House, to prevent the expenditure of any of the public money without its passing through the Exchequer. It appeared by the statements which he read, that 7,000,0001. sterling were annually expended by different departments of the Government, without passing through the Exchequer, and without Parliamentary control. TREATY OF VIENNA. Mr. M. MILNES gave notice that he should move an humble address to her Majesty, praying that she would order to be laid on the table of the House copies of the correspondence which passed between the late Marquis of Londonderry and the late Emperor of Russia, and other papers and correspondence referring to the treaty of Vienna, and the provisions which se cured the independence of Cracow. OUT DOOR RELIEF TO PAUPERS. An HoN. MEMBER, whose name we were unable to ascertain, presented a petition from the poor-law guardians of Calder (as we understood), against the sanctioning oat-door relief to paupers. EMIGRATION. Lord CLEMENTS presented a petition from the county of Leitrim, signed by 517 persons, farmers, and persons belonging to the labouring classes, praying to be assisted in some scheme of emigration. THE NAVAL SERVICE.—POST-CAPTAINS. Sir C. NAPIER said that, see;ng the Secretary for the Admiralty in his place, he begged leave to put the question of which he had given notice on Friday last. It would be remembered that during the last session the House had granted 30,0001. for the re tirements from the naval service. It had been agreed, at the same time, that the list of admirals should never exceed 150, or the captains' list 500. He wished to know from the Hon. Member what steps had been taken to carry this resolution into Effect? Mr. WARD said, tha4 the list had been reduced in the proportion of one captain for every three decks. He could assure his Hon. and Gallant Friend that since the general brevet only one post-captain had been made —that was Captain Denham, who had been promoted for distinguished services, and also in order to fulfil a pro miss made by the late Government. One hundred and eighty captains had retired within the last three y ears, e and the list now sto o d a t 569, instead of 7 30 , as h.e.for the reduction. Sir CHARLES NAPIER said it appeared that they had begun their reforms by the reduction of one captain for every three decks. AGRICULTURAL SCHOOonLS. favour of Mr. WILLIAMS presented a petiti in agricultural schools. COERCION OF VOTERS. Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN asked the Noble L: w r a d r a e t th th a e t he he was head of the Government w e h r e tlin r landed proprietors of coercion had been used Galway in favour of thbeyGcovernment candidate? He was sure the Noble Lord would have no difficulty in answering the question. Lord JOHN RU SSE t LL i disbelieved the statement on h ad ever been coerced in that the tenantry in q f avou r of the Government can didate. Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN t hen gave notice that he would make a motion on an early day for further in quiry. THE RUNDALE SYSTEM. Lord CLEMENTS wished to know from the Noble Lord at the head of the Government whetherle had any intention of introducing a measure to put an end t o the Rundale or joint - te nant system in Ireland? Lord JOAN RUSSELL replied that a measure was in contemplation in relation to landlords and teaante, but he could not say that there was any intention at present of altering the RuFdale sv stern. HOLYHEAD HARBOUR. Mr. J. E. COLLLI gave n,tice of his intertion of *tkillg th Govenment to-morrow nigl,t o que:,ticn respeetiig the improvement of Holyhead h:i.rb;:ur a 1.4 packet station. FINANCIAL STATEMENT. Lord J. RUSSELL gave notice that upon this day fortnight he would make a financial statement to the ll , Jtie in the Committee of Ways and Means. QUEEN'S LETTER. Sir R. H. INGLIS wished to know through what channel it was intended to distribute the month- col lected under the authority of the Queen's Letter? Sir G. GREY said that it was the intention of .tht Government to place the funds so collected at the dis posal of the committee of the British Association for the Belief of Extreme Distress in the Highlands of Svot land and in Ireland. The committee of that association consisted of persons of the highest character, and he thought that their mode of distributing the funds placed at their disposal was of the most superior nature. RAILWAYS IN IRELAND. Mr. B. OSBORNE wished to know what amount of money had been granted to the Limerick and Waterford Railway Company. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said no grant had at present been made to that company. The Government were prepared to advance money for the execution of the earth work upon Irish railways on the security of the baronies. The company referred to by the Hon. Atembur had not yet completed their errangements ►vith all their baronies, or the grant would have been made. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. On the order of the day for going into Committee on this Bill being read, Mr. O'CONNELL (the opening part of whose speech was perfectly inaudible) said, that with re f.-ence to the Labour-rate Act, which had been passed in the last session of Parliament, a considerable a-mouss of unjust obloquy had been thrown upon it. He thought that there were few measures propounded for the relict of Ireland equal to that measure. The Labour-rate Bill had been of much use, especially in the western parts of Ireland. and works had been performed under it of a really useful nature. In other parts of Ireland, he believed, it had not operated in so beneficial a man ner. With respect to another Bill for the temporary extension of the poor-law, although he opposed it on principle, he should moat certainly give it his support. He fres ready to give his support to any measure calculated to give an additional meal to the people of Ireland. A. third Bill for the im mediate relief of the people of Ireland, he though a most unfortunate one. lie was afraid the House was not suf ficiently aware of the extent of the distress in Ireland, or sufficiently impressed with the horrors which the pee ple endured. He would boldly state, that '25 per cent. of the people were perishing through destitution. He called up en the House, therefore, to act as the ge nerosity of a great nation required. The responsibility of 25 per cent. of the people rested upon the Govern ment. In one single village twenty two coroners' in quests had been held upon the bodies of people who hail died of starvation, and that number was daily increasine. The usual result of famine was pestilence, and had there followed in its train. Typhus fever was already ravaging the country; and out of the number of its victims not more than one in ten survived. It was fast spreading through the country, it would soon reach the higher classes, and no human being in Ireland could pos sibly, in a short time, escape its effects ; two millions of human beings would perish of the House did not come forward to relieve them. It might be said, why did the landlords of Ireland not relieve them? He would tell the House, tha; many of them had nobly done their duty, and there were numerous others who had the will, but not the means of doing so. It was urgently necessary, therefore, for the House to act liberally . towards Ireland. The people were starving and perishing in ahoitle, in hundreds, thousands, nay, even millions. He assured the House he lees not exaggerating the eel Ho hoped, therefore, that the House would endeavour promptly and efficiently to meet the case, and stave off the evils of the suffering millions of Ireland. If his plan were adopted, and an unlimited and dictato rial power given to Government to disburse such stuns as may be necessary, subject and responsible to the House, there might be some prospect of staying the pro gress of the famine. But they must not be fettered by strict law, and the House must, generously confide in the Government. He would also suggest the propriety of appointing domestic commissioners by a special Act for that purpose, whose duty would be to make out returns specifying the name, income, fee., of every landlord, with a fair and equitable system of taxation on the property of the country. It was not an unusual thing to have taxation in Ireland without representation, for the grand jury cess was an instance to the contrary. lie had to bear his testimony to the extraordinary patience and unexampled resignation with which the Irish people were bearing their afflictions, but there must be an end to that ; and if measures be not taken soon to give them adequate relief, they would break out into madness and despair. It was not pos sible to levy rates at the present time. Much had been said about loans to Ireland, and he begged to observe that after what had transpired, he thought there would be no more reference to that subject. They ought to use their powers now graciously am' magnificently to rescue the country. It might be asked, could the Irish do nothing for themselves ? They could do nothing—little at least—and that only could be done by the landlords of particular districts. Let the House remember the number of estates that were in Chancery, and the number of estates that belonged to persons in that country. He solemnly protested his serious con viction, that one-fourth of the people of Ireland would perish unless they rescued them. Sir B. HALL said that he was glad to hear that the Hon. Member who had last spoken concurred in the measures to be adopted by the House, but he thought that before he asked for large grants for Ireland he ought to oonsider the existence of distress in this country. In St. Panora' alone, on Tuesday last, out of a popula tion of 130,000, 8,000 received out-door relief, and 2,000 in-door relief" The deaths also in the bills of mortality had very much increased He could not refrain from saying a few words, but he did not wish to say anything that would be offensive to the Irish landlords ; but when they came down to that House and said that the country was in a state of misery and destitution, and that death and starvation were stalking through the land, and that moreover the whole of the responsibility for this state of things was laid on this country, he could not forbear to inquire how the landlords of Ireland had discharged their own responsibility. He believed thatlreland was not with out its resources. When he looked at the reports of Mr. Otway, the Poor-law Commissioner, and he believed that the reports of that gentleman were universally accredited as of authority, he found that the main cause of the present distress in Ireland was owing to the non collection of the poor-rates, and if the Irish landlords had seen this calamity approaching, and had taken no measures to prevent it, on them lay the responsibility of the present crisis. In the union of Ballina a rate for 12,0001. had been levied, and on the 4th January there were only 304 inmates in the workhouse, and yet so little of the poor-rate had been collected that the gifardian. bad come to a resolution that, unless money were sup plied, or else borrowed on the security of the rate, they would be under the necessity of shutting np the house. The Hon. Gentleman then went on to read several extracts from Mr. Otway's reports, showing the state of the unions of Ballina, Ballinasloe, and Castlebar, showing that there was great destitution, and that the poor-rates could not be collected. What would be said if any gentleman in the principality of Wales were to pass out of his park walls, and he saw immediately without them his tenants and cottagers living in hovels, while he knew that he had not paid his poor-rates 2—why he would be scouted by every one of respectability. In the case of the Castlebar union, they would find that persons of large property and great influence were re fusing to pay their poor-rates. Well, what he said was this, that the time had come when those gen tlemen ought to be made to contribute their portion to the relief of the poor.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He would take the liberty to allude to one other case— that of Skibbereen. If any gentleman would read the larger blue book he would find that the property round about that poorest and most wretched of the districts of Ireland—Skibbereen—amounted to no less than 93,0001. Sir Randolph Routh states that the property in the im mediate district of Skibbereen amounted to 50,0001., and at the conclusion of his remit he makes this singular remark, which he would like to hear answered by some of the Irish Members : S‘ With such property as this—with such resources as these—ought such destitution...to exist?" It was no use, with such facts before their eyes, to come to that House and tell them that the landlords of Ireland were not reprehensible. He was pleased to hear what had fallen from the Hon. and Learned Member, particularly so, as there was a meeting held of the Irish party at Old Palace-yard, where Lord Monteagle presided. That Noble Lord moved a resolution condemning the clause in the Irish Destitute Relief Bill which gave a .discretionary power to give temporary relief at the expense of the union. Now, he should like to know at whose expense relief should be given? They should pass a law by which they would compel the Irish landlords to do their duty. By a resolution which he held in his hand he perceived that the Irish landlords had no objection to the distribution of out-door relief. That plan rather met the approbation of the Irish. No doubt it did ; but the landlords did not appear in many respects to approve of a permanent Poor law Bill. That was what the House wished them to ap prove of, and what the House must make them app rove of. He thought it wa s pi t i a bl e and bad enough to see the aged and infirm seeking relief, but how much more wretched and pitiable was it to see able bodied persons coming for relief ? O ne o f the greatest benefits of their legislation that sess i on would be, if they were to pass some law cempelling the Irish proprietors to provide for the able-bodied poor, and to give them maintenance ; for if they found that they were compelled to do so, they would give the poor work to save themselves. He found a curious statement made by an Hon. Member for a Scotch district. That Honourable Member had told, him, that in the part of the district which he re presented there were, two. or three . er.esks ego , 230 persons receiving relief ; and that of that n umber there were only six Scotch, all the rest being Irish. It was very easy for Hoe. Members to demand from the country support and maintenance for the Irish people, but it was unfair and unjust for the landlords to turn the people away and not maintain them.—(He hear.) He should be very sorry, if in the course of his observations, he had stated any anything at all offensive to the Irish Members, but he felt it his duty, repn-serting one of the largest conssitu encies in the empire, to state not only his own feelings, but their opinions also. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. PonTsmount, Fan. 7.—The Medea, steam-sloop, Com mander Mason, left yesterday morning, with Sir H. Sey- 1 mour and suite, for Lisbon. The Medea also took dispatches for Vice-Admiral Sir W. Parker, in the Tagus, and letters for the squadron. Captain Corry, of the Superb, 80, ob tained a passage in her to rejoin his ship. From the Tagus the Medea proceeds to the Last Indies, taking dispatches for Rear-Admirals Dacres (at the Cape) and Inglefield (China). The Retribution, steam-frigate, proceeded yesterday to Cowes, with the dep6t companies of the 91st Regiment, for Parkhurst Barracks, Isle of Wight, replacing the depbt of the 71st (two officers, 182 non-commissioned officers, buglers and privates), 10 women, and 13 children, who were dis patched per special train from Gosport to Winchester quar ters the same afternoon. We have the beat authority for stating that the time-ho noured Victory, 104, Captain J. Pasco, is not to be put out of commission. We understand that her Majesty has lately been in treaty for the Wonder steam-packet, belonging to the New South- Western Steam Navigation Company, but who have declined to dispose of her; and we believe the only reason to be that the services of the vessel cannot be dispensed with for the present. The Tartarus, steam-vassel, 523 tons and 106 horse. power manned, pro tem., by a crew from the St. Vincent, 120, flag ship in this harbour, and under the temporary command of Lieutenant C. P. Coles, of that ship, arrived at Spithead yesterday afternoon from Woolwich, and left this morning, for Cork, taking supernumeraries, Sic. The Avon steam surveying -vessel, Commander Otter, ar rived this morning from Woolwich, and came into harbour. She is to replace the Sparrow ketch (now laid up), on the north coast of Scotland, and has got the officers and crew of that vessel, _ - . The African steam-tug, Mr. John King, acting master, re- ' turned yesterday morning from the wreck of the Sphynx, towing up the disabled " camel" and some fiatbottomed , boats, and bringing in most of the seamen who have been employed in the late operations. Four of the dock-yard riggers.are still there; and we hope the Admiralty will take the case of these men in particular, and the whole of the ar • tiaans who have been employed at the wreck generally, into their consideration, and award them something more ade quate for their services and privations than merely their ra tions and occasional payment for extra hours. Such pay ment is not an adequate reward for men who have been working night and day for three weeks upon a wreck in the winter time and away from their families. A letter from the tape, dated Simon's Bay, December 5, from an officer of the squadron on that station, says :—" The President (flag-ship) is here ;we hare had the Columbine, 16, Commander Booth, and the Brilliant, 22, Captain Wat son, here also, the latter for this station from England to re lieve the Cleopatra, 26, Captain Wyvill ; the former for the East India and China station; Commander Booth, however, invalided, and Lieutenant Yon Douop, of the President, was put in as acting-commander of her, and has taken her on to her station. She sailed only a few days ago. The Dido, 20, Captain Maxwell, arrived hire on the 26th of November from the River Plate, en route to India and China. We t ` expect the Vernon, 050, with the flag of Rear-Admiral Inglaileld, on hie way to take the chief command on the ' East India and China station, vice Sir Thomas Cochrane, ' daily. The Nimrod, 20, Commander Dacres (son of our ; Commander-in-Chief), is also daily expected from the coast of Africai she is to take the place of the Blaine, 12, on this station. On the 27th of November a very fine 1 barque, under Brazilian colours, arrived here as prize to the Cleopatra, 26, fitted with slave decks, coppers and shackles on board, but no slaves; she had just arrived _... on the coast from Rio; they took her at the end of the Mozambique Channel, and, the day after, the Cleopatra arrived herself, very sickly, more than 40 men on the sick list, and had lost two ; two more died on the 30th, and several others cannot get over it : their malady is dysentery, which they got at Zanzibar. She will start for England very soon now, but as the Brilliant has one of her Beate nants,remaimatter, until and two return. Theboard,wopnzeorewsoanrivant was to Isuppose cau sh m e will Algoa Bay, where she would find orders to return here im• media missio t n el now y to u reli ear r ive th yea e C leopatr a , i ; l cathes which has are been quiet com- now, and want to treat for peace in most eases. We have A very strong force up there, but there are doubts as to what the Governor will do." Mr. White's new 12-gun brig Contest " surpasses by far any vend of her class I have ever seen," says an officer on board of her, in a letter dated Cape Mount, West Coast of Africa, December 5. 1846. She " has every good quality a man-of-war ought to poems in stowing and in accommoda tion she is perfect. In sailing on a wind within five points with a head sea she has frequently gone 9i knots, and is particularly easy; going free, yards nearly square, in mo derate weather, without studding sails, we have got twelve knots, which the log will prove. She has not as yet been pressed with sail; we do not know what she may yet do; she is quite tight, and does not strain. The only trial we have as yet had wes with the Favourite, 18, and Nimrod, 20, both of whom we beat very much; the latter three miles dead to windward, in one hour and a quarter, although she is considered to sail well. We have much improved the Contest, by raking her masts nine inches in ten feet ; and what we have found to be her best draught is fifteen feet se ven inches aft, twelve feet live inches forward, or _about two feet seven inches difference; in that immersion we think no thing-will touch her. We are all very proud of her, and she is much admired." The,Actmon, 26, Captain Manse', and the Devastation steam-sloop, bearing, the broad pendant of Commodere Sir C, Hotham, K.C.8., Commander-in-Chief on the west coast of Africa, were at Ascension on the 19th December. CHATHAM, Fes.. 6. The Semarang, 26 guns, in Dock, owing to the number of defects to be made good, will not be ready for service till the end of the month ; she is to have an entire new false keel. The Dockyard riggers commenced rigging her on Friday the ith. The Birkenhead steam-frigate, Commander A. H. Ingram, arrived here on Friday afternoon, the sth inst., from Wool wich, and moored alongside the Tartar frigate, when she commenced shipping the baggage and clothes stores of the reserve battalion of the 56th Regiment. This morning a 1 detachment of 12 rank and file, forming a guard, with the soldiers' wives, about 44) women, and 100 children, embarked from the dockyard stairs on board. The Birkenhead sailed I this day for Portsmouth, where she will transfer her passen gers and luggage on board the troop -ship Belleisle, Captain Kingcome, which is to convey the 56th to Gibraltar • the Birkenhead being pronounced unfit for the conve y ance o f the troops. To meet the Belleisle the reserve battalion, con sisting of nearly 800, including officers, march in three equal divisions en nnste for Portsmouth. The first division march on Monday neat to Maidstone, thence by railroad to Ports mouth ; the second division goes on Tuesday, and the third on Wednesday. The Elk, 16 guns, building, is fast progressing; the ship wrights are employed working the Wales. The Fearless steam-vessel, attached to this port, Wells master, is making good defects at Sheerness; when ready, she will receive an addition of men to her crew, with a party of marines, as she is to accompany the Enryalus convict ship; with convicts, to Gibraltar, for the purpose of bringing back the seamen who navigate the Euryaltis. The Rochester, with stores from Pembroke and Ports mouth, remains discharging her cargo. The Poictiers, ordinary guard-ship, was paid wages on the 2d instant. TUE GOVERNMENT WORKS, MORICE TOWN. I excavating at the north-west side of the engine-house, at the n above works, the men have discovered part of the hunof a ship—apparently as large as a frigate , embedded in sand and rubble, about eight or ten feet beneath the surface. Various conjectures have been the consequence, the fact of "diggin g up" anything out of the ordinary co urse bein g alw ays -re garded with wonder, and always exciting speculation. Some people have talked of a ship in the days of yore being " missed" one morning, and the probability of her having sunk at this identical spot 1 The most likely story is this, that many years ago there lay two frigates off this place which were perfectly unserviceable, and were therefore or dered to be broken up. The Admiralty, or the Dock-yard authorities were not so economical then as now, and having taken as many timbers as they pleased, they made the resi• due a present to Neptune. Rubble from the dock-yard used at that time to be cast there, and this, together with the usual action of the tide, gave the old ship a covered grave.—. Deronport Independent. VALUE or LAND. —An extraordinary sale by auction took place in Lincolnshire a few days ago by Mr. Medland, of St. Neot's, when a farm of 420 acres, in the oc cupation of Mr. Nunueley (nearly the whole of it being under the plough), in the pariah of Spalding, being in the Fen, and seven miles from the town, and a very heavy drainage tax upon it, made 22,000/. ; and 73 acres of dis persed lands, in the adjoining parish, averaged 7til. per acre. ot We confess, that, with free tra de, and the present state the money market, these facts have surprised us.— Cambridge Indtpenditnt Press. ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS.—The following gentlemen, having undergone the necessary examination, i u s l ; s iiY rd were admitted members of this college at t he last meeting of the Court of Examiners :—Meesrs. Robert Alex ander Wm. William Strongßriggs, iortli3Oe H yiii ; e, dward Weatley, Bombay; Johson Kaye Baines, Burwel l, Cam - br t g e Govett, London ; John Linton Palmer, Soberton, emp alidre; h Julius r u r •Morris Morrie, Bar ITIOUt 13 am, wrks North Derbyrbs E Wales ; and Charles Downes, Builth, Breconshire. Mr. M. MILNE:3 said, that if he might credit ails' part of the statement of the Honourable Meta less tr Cork, t lest the Herisci and the. see .try /IA not generally anil fully comprehend and take ineicw the state of Irish misery, he would finer em :tie of the Right Fan. Bartoifet, for valuable as 5u7 1 ,0 r marks had been, and true, and over true,, as niauy of his assertions in regard to the landlords its Ireland had been, ho could not think that the ntrunet fully comprehended what the tats Ui Isi land was, when he said that after tie rnmitriis he had made he should not s:int the Irish poor. This was no case of •iiiii.:p —a fvLs a case of starving. There was no case H. er c )mpare chronic English distress with chronic Irish distress. It was a case in which the English Parliament and nation had cause to intervene in one of the most singular calami ties that had ever befallen any country during the last three centuries, and for which it was in vam to draw arguments ind conclusions from the ordinary course of measures. He might presume to speak of the state of the country more i eiaiily than other , , ma much as he had himself, with his own eyes, witnessed it in certain parts of the country. He said certain parts, because it should be borne in mind that it was not spread ovtr the whole surface of the country, but confined to certain districts. The remedy therefore should not be general in its nature, but partial in its operation. He should therefore recommend the most careful consideration with regard to the introduc tion of the English poor-law. On the right solution of that question, the future prosperity or adversity Of the Irish people would depend. Ile prayed them, then, to censider that the present state of that coun try was oue of peculiar and pressing nature, and it was required to be met by general as well as local assistance. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman said that it could not be doubted but twenty-five per cent. of the population were being swept away by famine and pestilence. Now he did not wish to make a comparison of things that could not be compared, but if a pauper died of starvation in the streets of London, the public press would take the matter up—leading articles would be written upon it, and the case would be put forth in the strongest manner to excite public sympathy. and awaken publio horror. Why then, he would este was such indifference exhibited, when they_ erefe dying by thousands across the Channel ? Wes !fr, because Skibbereen was 200 miles to the .west London ? Why should there be one sympathy for Skibbereen and another for London. Such a feeling would not be exhibited by the capitals of Gwtinsny or France to any part of the empire, however ex treme, that might be visited by a similar calamity. Re objected to having those exceptional cases brought forward upon such occasions as the present. Hon. Members might speak of workhouses, for the, support of which no rates were paid—they were only the excep tion. Let the House look to the number of workhouses which were literally groaning beneath heir load of mist ry and pestilence.—(Hear, hear.) It was not decent that those exceptional cases should be brought forward—great miseries and sufferings were always sacred in the eyes of honourable men.-110 0 ,1 hear.) It was not fair to treat the peep lc Ireland in the manner they had been treats' by the Honourable Member for Bath.—(Hear, hear.) He thought that every moment of delay in passing these relief Bills, was an injury inflicted on- the people of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) He felt assured. that in expressing his sympathy with the people of Ire land he was only giving expression to the feelings which glowed in and warmed the heart of every person in Eng land.—(llear, hear.) Mr. P. SCROPE perfectly agreed with the opinione expressed by the Hon. Member for Marylebone, and he thought that the people of England would not be satis fied with the measures about to be proposed for the relief, unless they had ample security that, for the future, the property of Ireland should be made to maintain the poverty of Ireland. The rental of Ireland, according to Mr. Griffiths, Wes stated at 15,000,0001, and it was well known that the assured sum was upwards of 30,000.0001. The expert°, from Ireland were upwards of 7,000,0001. was well known that the resources of Ireland Wer e enormous, and at a time when Parliament we f s,. making these largesses to the people of that country it was necessary to devise some means by which the pro perty of Ireland should be made responsible for the,, maintenance of its own poor; and he must say that it the lion. and Learned Member for Cork during the last ten or fifteen years had been endeavouring to render the gentlemen of that country sensible of their du ti h s as landlords, he would have been doing uk ue ,; more good than he had ever affected by laying he the them the magnificent results that were to folloW repeal of the union. He remembered hearing 11.11 " - Honourable Gentleman assert, ten years a g e that he was standing in the gap to PIE vent a heavy poor-law being imposed on he u° people of Ireland by the jealousy of England; a nd (Mr. P. Scrope) thought that in this session , even La, this temporary measure, some means oug ht to , adopted for compelling the owners of Irish property to , maintain their own poor for the future. Lord DUNCAN said that he wished toestates ptaidn: dividually he had a great admiration for th ir e i a nxious lords. He believed that many of them Here to do their duty—but lie had been requeshteed had the first magistrate of the city which the honour to represent to state that many of his COTV• stitueuts were in the last stages of distress, but that they were willing to do their duty, and that none of their countrymen should die of starvation at their own doors. He trusted that some Irish Gentleman would be able to get up and deny the statements in the book which had been quoted, for they were really awful. In the Castlebar union, it is stated by the doctor that the sick in the hospital did not get the diet prescribed for them on the 27th of December last, neither did they get it on the 28th, 29th, 30th, or 31st. He trusted they had come forward, as they ought to have done, in the case of those northern parts of the country to which his attention had been directed; and he trusted the Irish Members would second their efforts. He was sure, if they did, although the constitl eney which he represented paid many taxes from w=ish the Irish were exempt, they would willingly come OW ward, as far as they were able to assist. Major MACNAMARA. denied the oorreotuees of al statement made by Captain Wynne in his letters in repro to the non-payment of the rates in the county acure• Mr. B. OSBORNE said he had no wish to Pr tssi !,: this debate, but he must say a few words b efore closed. He did feel surprised that Hon. Gentlemen connected with land in Ireland had not thought proper on that occasion to say something in reply to the fe W words dropped by the Hon. Member for Mo° 4 He had no disposition to interfere with the Hon. gem: Der for Scrope—(Laughter)—he meant the Hon. Mere be 'i for Stroud. But, without saying whether the poor-le! was good or bad, he (Mr. B. Osborne) did not think he was justified in bringing on a discussion On that elle t. !' Lion on subjects that had little or nu connexion with But when the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Member I° ' Marylebone, lectured the landlords of Ireland on their duties, and paraded the case of the Castlebar union+ which was the stock in trade of orators of his description—(Laughter)—as the Keighley Union w as ° another gentleman. He was surprised that the lane lords of Ireland, who, he regretted to say, w ere not represented in that House—(Laughter)--01," not get up in their place and tell him that his inferences were erroneous, and that they did their duty. fie fearlessly said that the case of the Castlebar Union was not the rule in Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) He could tell him, in several of the unions where there were work houses built to contain only 600 individuals, there were. at present 2,000 inmates.—(Hear hear.) He did 00 ; concur in the aspersions cast upon Lord Lucan, and others. The report of Mr. Otway, the Assistant Poor' law Commissioner, had been quoted, but he would ask the Right Hon. Gentleman, did lie know that the Noble Lord wrote a letter exonerating himself from any blame. In that letter he said that h e was no t pr e par e d to centre' diet the statement.—(lronical cheers.) He (M th r. Osborne) wa s n o t p ersona lly acqua inted with e Noble Lord, but he understood that he kept the house open at his own expense for A period of three montbs.—Cheers.) Nay, more, Lord Sligo had acted in a similar manner with regard to Westport. Well, then, it came to this. Ballina, Bel linrobe, and Castlebar, were exceptions, but he said they were exceptions, and not the rule. Much had been said about the neglect of the landlords of Ireland, but he would ask on whom did the fault rest in the first in; stance. They had themselves to blame for they hs. ll ; been always in the habit of legislating for Ireland, 29 it was a colony of England.—(Hear, and cheers.) He repeated it, the Government were legialet in g fe n r colony. If the legislation had been conducted i different spirit, Ireland would not have been in the state it is at present. Mr. HASTIE hoped that it wou ld never be said of him that he had stated i n p r i vate what he feared to state in public. Wh a t he had stateu to the House, he had stated on the authority of the reports presented to Parliament, and delivere d to each Member, every H onoura bl e Member c ould see for himself, by reading those reports, that the Irish landlords had not as a body done their duty. The Irish landlords, the lessees, the middlemen and the farmers should, when of the failure of the potato crop, have formed. them selvese into committees for the purpose 0f v e u r r a l h t i h n - they knew total amount of the failure, and giving BCC L• formation to the Government Everything was to be found by English w th h e a t us w tl e a s i UP°lllllollethye. The duty quantity of potatoes grown in . the quantity of oats of this supervisor was to ascerteahinpwarhiaaht,awnads the failure of the crop. T i W c r al e ! wasa e r tar ne d that they ought m jesty'sGovernment andto to en have each made parish , v e p a : v a t having shya of Ireland were to be assessed usl degree with that of En ot cl ooo/. a-year would be require g d thiste the land, 1,500,0001. to 1,8 House.peev. poor-rate t t e h e inp raonp from the Irish landlords. In Ireland, the gross rental from land was known to be upwards of 15,000,0001. a year. The usual assessment on land in England was ten per cent, and it was not until the Iri s h landlo rds had borne a burden equal to that that they could be in n position to come to the people of this country and ask for relief. But when that was done, then he was quite sure that no man would refuse to bear his share in ren dering all the assistance he could. Sir D. NORREYS said that Sir W. Beecher, who bad formerly had a seat in that house, had been made a district surveyor, about six weeks or two months age, and he thought that such charges as those of the Right Hon. Baronet should have been restrained until his report of the districts was made. The Hon Baronet had not made his charges fairly, he made them he ought to have inquired how far .his state me its were justified by the condition of the whole of time hundred and thirty-six districts in Ireland, and whether all out of ten of the several workhouses were not perfectly full. for before The country gentlemen, in many instances, had been wilting , to extend the p oor -l aw , w h en the Poor-law Commiisioners have stepped in a n d revented them. He did not mean to be the apologiser of all the Irish landlords, but, considering the panic which prevailed, they b a d exer ted themselves be tter e than under the circumstances might 11011 inn expected. To ; , i ditty adm Rid PIM Yiati pre! take who that vote