The Sun. — London, England, 1814-05-13 00:00:00

co , f Pmplation, that the Duke of Wellington iknd family are to he established ioa splendid man which is to he purchased or built for them ; b:•t when the klight 'Hon Gentleman talks of a s , to of fi!ty thousand pounds for building such a mansion, every body knows that it cannot 4 be built for any thing like that money; _hut, on the • contrary, must cost "very near 100,0001. You then sink at once (said Mr: W.) alarge portion of this grant, and-the rempinder is insufficieut for its purpose. Certainly, it, was not becoming in him to propose a larger grant ; but- he must say, that it Nrould have given him much pleasure if it had been larger ; and on this ground, instead of the pu4pose of Parliament being accomplished . this day, he would rather hear a motion for the potltponement of the vote, in order that the House might' come to a resolution more worthy of Lord Wellington and of theinselves. But whatever might be done for one branch of the service; another act ot justice was necessary to wind up the tvar. Ere hoped the time would come when a message would be sent relative to another branch. It could'oiever be forgotten that the Admirals and Officers of the Navy had most glbriously distiguished themselves. He by no meAns wished to . infer that the country had been insensible to their worth ; hut at the close of so great a war, a debt of gratitude was due to those distinguished Characters, who have not, of bate years, had a single opportunity of bringing them .selves into notice. Ile therefore hoped, that a Message would come dOwn, announcing that ho nours had been bestowed upon those Officers, and intimating the propriety ot ucompanying them with suitable remuneration. It was the cordial co-operation of both services which bad led to their joint successes ; -and not onlrthat Hone, but the ArMy would feel that all had not - yet been (lobe which was necessary and just. With these excep tioos, no .one could more cordially agree than himself "with the propositions before .. the Com mittee. • PONSONBY entirely agreed in all that had been said and done on this interegtifig subject ; and although it was certainly.an unusnal thiug for persons sitting on his side of the Honse to cots4plain of the insufficieney) of the - gfeantS pro posed by Ministers, yet he did mit think that the grant to Lord Wellington Wi:is too small. The Prince Regent had been pleased to raise the Duke of Wellington to the highe.s2 rank of a subject, and yet the income to accompany' tins title is only 18,0001. or 19,000/. Was there any Gentle man in that House who would say that this is an income sufficient for such a rank,' or for such ser vices ? He knew it had been said that grants, had beck made to Lord Wellington by the Spanish Geivernment.' The. House, however, would act wisely by not taking these into consideration. In the course of time this country might find itself not in amity with Spain. 'Under such circum stances, is Lord Wellington or his family to look to Spain for a part of his income ? There was an other point of which he did not fully approve. He did not wish to see a Nobleman so highly dis ,tinguiShed derive his revenue from the mere in terest of money ; on the contrary, lie wished to see him in possession of a great landed stake in the country. If, therefore, the Right Honour able Gentleman would not amend his motion, by proposing sz lArger stun, he would himself make a proposition on the subject.. He would vote for the grant being 500,0001. without the least re luetance: but he certainly should move that it be wended to 400,000/. at the least. Mr. CANNING would not,go into an argument as to whether the grant should be extended to the largest limits that bad been proposed ; but lie was anxious that the House should keep in view the magnitude and importance of the services for which this grant would be made. -He was also anxious that whatever may be voted this day should come from that quarter from which grants originally emanate, lest a difference of opinion, or an idea of competition, might be inferred on a subject respecting which there should be the most perfect unanimity. If the ILMoni - able Gen- tlemen on the Ministerial side were not pre pared to give an immediate and decided negative to the proposition of an enlargement of the grant, lie would pl'opose that they shOuld take some time to co!Asider of it, and then come forward with a vote which should be final. At all events, whatever was intended to be done should be done now, in order that the Duke of Wellington should not have to, shape his conduct according to the popular feeling. Whatever we intend 'to do for Lita should be done before, he appears amongst us, to excite our enthusiasm, which might make us IlliStrust our own judgq!ent.. He trusted also that we should neer see him in a. situation to hesi tate whether he would pre* funds or lands.— The grant should be worthy of the Country, and of that House, as it.was of great consequence that the Duke should see do he had not run before the-feelings of the country ; and never--had any Ministers of Finance a finer °ppm tunity than the present, for applying the pUblic money to a pur pose which would give universal satisfaction. The CHANCELLOR of _the ENCUEQUER thought the way in which the•questiou ought to be con- thiliplated was, not -what the DUke of Weilin g t ol i *merited, bnt•what theiiouse ought- to give out of the money of its Constituentsj .Satisfied, how- ever, that in the estimate of the amount he had fallen short of the public expectation, he was , very ready to submit to the Committee to make the grant 400,000/. instead of 300,0001. which would make the wlrole amount of money granted for estates half a million. The Right Bon. Gentle man added, in explanation, that he had not said a Mansion could be built for 50,0001. (as,usistm derstood by Mr. Whitbread), but that it was ex-, tresnely probable that one could he purchased with an estate, in.the culairgement or which that suns could be disbursed. . Mr. WHITBREAD was glad to see that this grant teas not considered as a matter of dry calculation. It appeared to him that the additional 100,0001. made the thing quite complete. It was now wor thy of those who give, as it is of him who will re ceive it. The Resolution, so amended, was then put, and carried neat. con.-- "'That a sum, not exceeding 13,000/. per annum should he bnynble out of the Consolidated Fuld to Lord Wellington and i;Heir/for ever," 13.. c. 211:tt it sliot:It: bc lawful for the Coitairaissioners of the 'enewent: • above allikuii.y." \ - 'fiic Itesohnion : was agreed to—the Report to- ”Lnrroxv CHANCELLOR of theEkcnisciuza then pro - - posed, that sums of 20001. a-year• should be sere liy grante I to Lords'Lynedock, Hill, and Beres ford, and th 6vo next surviving heirs, A - long cosniersation here took place, in which Mr. WysisiE and Sir C. AIONCIi. contended, that the annuity' should extend to *the heirs generally of the parties. The CHANCELLOR of the RNCHP.MJER and Mr: BATHURST replied ; after which , the Resolutions wet e agreed to, and the Report ordered to be re ceived to-morrow. BLOcEADE O 1 NORWAY. Mr. W. WYNNE; to'the no tice-fie had given; much regretted that the pm o, gess of events had not released him from the ne cessity of pursuing that course which he now felt it to be his duty to take. Ile read that part of . the Treaty concitided• with Sweden which relates to Norway, and contended, after the cession of that country by Denmark, England wris bound to do no more in the business. By the treaty, she was not.required.to'make ivar on the independent kingd6m H of Norway. In its strict consideration, it only demanded the renunciation of all claiMs on Norway, but that renunciation, when obtained, yielded no satisfaction. -ln a Treaty so anmbi. goons as the present, we ought to construe its weaning conformable to the laws of nations ; for, by these, the Treaty was professedly drawn: He, ‘vould not waste the time of the House by quot ing at length the opinions of wise and enlight ened Legislators on similar subjects ;. he would simply mention, that both Grothts and Put lendoril concurred 'in representing that a 'Mo narch might be persuaded to dismember his do -minions for the purpose of securing the remain der,, but he could not compel the people of his dismembered dominion? to- acquiesce in their change of masters. 'nese opinions* were; for ages, the landmarks of public lawe and it had al ways been presumed, when the language of a Treaty was found obscure and ambiguous, that its meaning was hot hostile to national law, and it WaS construed `accordingly. He briefly stated the causes of the late war with Denmark, and tyre events which had placed Norwliy in her present situation. All wars were professedly carried on for self-defence; anti an enemy, when he laid down his arms, was entitled, not through - favour, but through right, to quarter. it had been, how ever, stated, iu fecent publications, • that it was the duty of a ceded province to comply with . the orders of its former possessors; blit let those au thors examine the hiStory of Scotland during time reign of Edward the First. Baliol merely trans 'hued his 1 Crown to the Conqueror ;* but' the Scotch, as an anCient, brave,. and independent - na-. tion, refused compliance, and, _tutiler their pa triotic leaders, were finally triumphant. Time same was the case with the Weish„ during the reign of Edward : conducted by Llewellyn, their native Prince, they filled the mountains of Snow don with warriors, and resolutely declared'that the submission of their Leader would not induce them to acknowledge the authority of one whom they branded as a foreigner: Perhaps the advan tages derived from the co-operation of Sweden had justified the amount of our SubsidieS ; but We were making other prodigious sacrifices for sti pulations that had not'been fulfilled. Sweden was time natural ally of France ; they were called Frenchmen of time North, and they exult in the appellation, and their reverence would not be di minished under the Government ora Frenchman. He would advise Britain not to re-kindle war,for the purpose of enforcing a Government against the feelings of the people, and he was concerned to see us, with our armoni• of conscience buckled on our bosoms, and with our arms from the armoury of God, engaged in such a cause. The Hon. Gen tleman spoke at great length, and in the course of a very able speech, anticipated the principal arguments which he expected would be urged by. the Gentlemen opposite. These he answered-. from their being the same as those put forth and replied 'to in the other House on Tuesday, we think ,it unnecessary to detail tnem here. He concluded by Moving, that an humble Address sh6uld be presented to the Prince Regent, pray ing that his Royal Highness would be graciously pleased to order measures to be taken to rescue the people of Norway from the dreadful alterna tive of famine, and in the mean time to issue or ders for,the British ships of war to discontinue the blockade. Mr. LAMBTON seconded the motion. .14r. STEPHEN said, he reverenced the venerable laws of nations, and would always support the propriety of maintaining national faith solemnly promulgated in Treaties. The Government must • observe it's Treaties ; and Vattel, in partictdar, said that they ought to *be preserved 'n a liberal sense—that it waseamworthy of a great nation to subtilize respecting the wordkof itsown Treaties — that it ought not to have recourse to chicanery in fulfilling its engagements; But the Hon. Gentle man would have them elude the Treaty; because the CroWn Prince bad not gone to Paris quite so soon as they wished it—(Hear ! from the Oppo sition Benches).—After having so materially as sisted time common _cause by the defence of Ber lin-=by his- proceedings at Leipsic—the Hon. Gentleman would raise doubts, when it possibly might turn out that he had only been fulfilling a part of the general plan. To despoil an enemy of part of his territory was not against time usage of war, nor the law of nations ; and by the treaty with Sweden, England engaged to nothing that was contrary to sod' usage. Sir J. MACICINTOSH denied that his Hon. Friend (Mr. *Wynne) had called on the House to elude its Treaties—to evince chicanery ; he had called on the House to admit the necessity of pausing, and inquiring when doubts Were raised and difficulties appeared. That was a legitimate ob ject, and that was the object of the motion. It was to implore • the Prince Regent to relax and inquire—to get farther information' respecting the real state of things before he proceeded to act—before he proceeded to the final adoption of measures that were of a more odious character than any that had ever been agitated in the Coun cils of Great'Britain. It might then be ascertain.- ed whether . the revolt was general, or whether He should not - question the right• to cede--the King might cede; but he had 119 right to die. tate to ivhorn that allegiance should he given if he - orsee resolved to resign it'. The Sovereign might Cede, but he could not sell his sO - be coUld not carry-on a white slave trade— (-Hear !)-and, in the present instance, Denthark might give up the kingdom of Norway, but it had no right to forceei Government on them contrary to their own feelings. 'l'l)6 Honourable Gentle man had made an alluson to the union with Scot. land, and the as:quiescence of that country, in the reign of Qncen Aitne ; but he would recollect her resistance to the ruder soliciting that was adopted -by Edward I. It it had not been for such resist ance, she would have been unworthy of now form ing:an integral part of this illustrious Nation, and sopphing her with, warriors. fie concluded with an eloquent eulogium on the liritish -Navy, and warmly deprecated their being employed on a ser vice so revolting to:their feelings as that which. Ministers were pleased to call a merciful mode of warfare, -starring the unoffending.Norwegians. Mr. STErktEN explained. • Mr. CANNING said, that if it were now a- quet tion whether we were to: enter into such a Treaty as would bind OS to afford the assistance required for the subjugation, of Norway - , he would cer tainly not concur in it. And it would be in the re collection of his Honourable Friend, that he had called on the House:_to' pause before they did consent to the Treaty which was lIDW the subject, of dispute. -.But when they had-once sanctioned it, the Country, he conveiyed, was bound by the expression of their will. The Right Honourable Gentleman then proceeded to complain of the manner in which his Honourable Friend had attempted to enlist the feelings ,of the. House in favour of' the Norwegians, describing the ca lamities to which they would he exposed, and which calamities • were the inevitable result of the most legitimate as well, as the most unjust war. He spewed that we bad .not merely enga ged to procure the cession of Norway to Sweden from the King of Denmark, but that we had actually stipulated to effect by our naval force, as far as that might be 'efficient, the annexation of that country, which waS -moreover always men tioned in the Treaty not as a province of Den. 'mark, by throwing off which character her rela thins with us could be altered but as the kingdom of Norway. - Ile dwelt on the injustice we should. be guilty of, if, having courted the assistance of Sweden in a time of danger, we should, as soon as we - felt' ourselvesat ease, fly from the engage ments into which we had entered, and which lei . on her part liad -so amply fulfilled. . Mr. WHITBREAD - thought that the opinions of the Right Hon. Gentteman who had just sat dofin ought to have conducted him t.o a very .different conclusion. If the dates which had been referred to had been correctly - quoted, it would have ap peared that the Original cause of the cession was a compromise between. Russia -'and Sweden, by which the latter was to obtain Norway as a com pensation for the loss of Finland. All that 'the accession ,of England to this Treaty did, was to. postpone the cession till Sw e dl en engagements with respect to the alliance against France. No d ou bt, cessions of territory had often been - made ; but, w h e n t h e inhabitants of a ceded territory had.resisted the cession, and de clared theie independence, when bad such resist ance been deemed unlawful ? Had,Grcat Britain, in that situation of hard necessity to which Den mark had been reduced, ceded the kingdom of Ireland,to a foreign power, where was the Irish- Man whose. indignant' heart would not 'Alive op posed so base and cruel an attempt to barter away his alliance ? Spain too had been ceded ; but the resistance made to that cession was-the cause of all the good which Europe was now enjoying ; and was this a moment-to - act towards Norway that very part which we had reprobated and contended against, in a struggle which had _placed Us where we now were W as it tinder such circumstances -that the plague of hunger, as it had been called by Mr. Burke, - was to be inflicted on a brave amid unoffepding people ? The Honourable gentle man, after a variety of further observations . , con cluded with some servere animadversions on ,the language and conduct of an Honourable and Learned Gentleman (iNte. Stephen). The CHANCELLOR of tile EXCHEQUER, in a long speech, replied to the preceding Speaker. He contended that the present was not a moment for the inteepositiOn , of Parliament. The -question formed an item of the Convention of the Allies,. and ought to•remain for their explanatioU and ad justment. With reference to the inadequate mi litary aid of the Crown Prince, lie- had only to; say, that, however military men may have differed on that point, the Allies, who'had the best, means of ascertaining the fact, were the parties who called Upon England 'to support the execution of the Treaty.--(Hear.!) Mr. PONSONBY defended the ,arguments of his Hon. and Learned Friend - (Sir J.. 'Mackintosh), and supported the Moticin,- upon the principle. that no treaty could be binding which Was in it selft a v , sh tiou of justice, and of the natural rights of mankind. • . Mr. WILBERFORCE wfis against the MOtion. Lord J. Ros's7 LI:followed on the opposite side. Mr. 'Wst: SMITYI supported the Motion. Mr. BATIWRST replied to him. Sir T. ACKLAM abhorred the Treaty, although he feared the Country was bound by it: • Mr. WYNN replied. At half -past two o'clock the question was loud ly called fdr, and the House divided, when the numbers were--= .For the Motion. 7l , 1 Agaiost it . '229 / Majoiity ' - 7-153 The House then adjourned at HALF-PAST TWO. Peace has brought with it a sensible fall in the price of almost all kinds of produce and goods. Pepper, whielLat the two lase India Company Sales, was from 19d. to 21d. is now selling in the market at 13d. to 14th per lb. ; sugar has fallen from 120 s, to 90s, per cwt. ; brandy is from 4s. Gd. to 4s. 10d. per gallon ; and manufactured goods have fallen 20 per cent. in price. This arises from the foreign markets being glutted, or. from the exhausted state to which tho long continuance of war has reduced them. .1.4:1 IV A.., ~.~.~--- COlnt r r OF Mir 12. THE KING t. D. I. EATON. The defendant % . vosbroitht up for judgment 0 the publisher of a biasphe Mons iif:l`el against Christian religion, wider the`iitie of Ecc,? Iforzo., . As the Officer of the Court was•aboutic ;"'- o ',‘‘, -th,l. the libel, Mr% GURNEY interposed, aliti 4.oilre"r: he, on the part of the defendant, wished to - 4 ni r . th 6 Court .the hearing of Matter wltich vlas too shocking to be repeated even in:Pi Court of JO tice, for the'purpose of ju Th stice. - e ,def..Aida o wirs, still in suc h en infirm s t a te of health, (liy sentence of imprilonment must be consigning hi. • to his gr4veiand Vet he was aware th at the CntO , ' could not do otherwise than pass a heavy sentenci for the offence of %viiieh he had been g_i:lltY , bt'' t ,- I. c . trusted the Court would listen to his. afliqa:;i t "'; a delay of th e . s e nt e nee. The affidavit w a s th"": read, lvhich stated, that he bad declined pnbri3ll., ing the _book in question, but that lids Iron se4 u keeper had, d ur i ng hi s illness, published and soi several copies. The Court said, they could not forget the tnira ed determined never to be• amended- by bending obstinacy of the defendant , "ll' sceli r . 'Talon which the law had repeatedly aPldi ed. of had lately been in Newgatc, and be:lwas abut the offender. ll "2.ley were aware that he etas bu f l i ft miserable tool of some others i for the boni c- ,question was evidenthr the production of " sa r i ; plied talent, and was of powerful mischie icoini clic:et. Jt. we be desirable that those be iv i . the -curtain should be brought to condig n r inis the c( 1 ) le ntunt clear The ATTORNEY-GENERAL , said, it was „d,O that the d e fend an t was b u t a ' wretc hed AT" i t if lent himself to the wickedness of others• the be had any sin cere w i s h to mer it the glercY ° , hor s. Court, he would d o well t o g i v e tlp . t he 4il ls ia It was, however, c lea r _ w h at were his j ' e ''' si , ec t publicati on , f rom th e a d v e rt i semen t on the- 0004 of the book in whi c h h e s t ate d hi s former s- c duct as sacrific e s t o th e cause o f liberty, 311" IrSO" ed his intentio n o f go i ng on i n the- sa me c°6 while a typ could bu found. I dot After a short pause, Mr. Gon.NEY sta te '' , _ the defendant had agree d t o di sc l o se the Dole . the author,-which he handed-over to the Act°l' ney-General. tben The judgment upon the defendant w 6- I , u l respited, and he was ord ere d t o be. br°'` -t again on a-future day. • REX V. ANGEL UYERS. ept Oil This defendant wa s b roug h t u p f o - l' •ing an indictment tried in this Court fo r . ` - a u King's stores i n hi s possess i on . He prat"ll9 affidavits as to good character for 13 year s ' t he SCARLETT and Mr. -j A•rnPrw- • r idross e6 l , t Court in mitigation, urgiHg ' ;1;e dell -• had a family of twelve children to support. r - os e• The ATTORNEY-GENERAL supported the P,, 15 e• cation, characterising this as an aggravateu. 't;od The Court adjudged the defendant to paY 44 of .2001. and , to be imprisoned 18 months. • 'A column, with a colossal SNtue or ' 1 ; fl ie r LAND HILL on its is at last e l d e • 1 17 " 19 , -, :W inhabitants of Sh rews b ur y, as t he mode of perpetuating the inilitarycNPl w ' s gallant General; and it will be forthixitb;trcot. at Shrewsbury,/ on an elevated and 5 1;1 0 A party of prisoners of war were m arehe' ow e the Perth depot on Saturday, for their otri; t ber' i ry, ornamented with white cockades, aa t : () tie rs lotianobt insignia. All the. remaininf there will soon-follow. • 01 0 Yesterday mornin g t wo m en -h a ving. 1136 % s ic i t .tritiing dispute i n Dep t f or d, ag r ee d to def' i l by .fighting, for, which purpose, accowPan'cfiel!it /heir friends, they went to an adjoi'l itl g f iat; ' 4 where they stripped and set-to. After , ►;re, fey; rounds„ one o f th em , name d J o h n Nort bl Ycll , receid a severe blow in the pit'of the st:cornea and fell speechless. In Oaf state he was 0 ttlY s to the Black Hor se publie-house, NV here he ° left afterwards expired. The unfortunate ' a wile and two children. _At the Strand Bridge, a few days since , ci li noe• derable.operation was e7formed in a eof The massy wooden frame work, fixed.f °r , the arches to be forded upon, was foto ) ",.:R;' 11- swerved from its perp en di cu l ar ., and to `).- 1 1 . °' ° ing towards the upper part of time ri'v er. it o il ' barges, filled with s t one ,, were .sank bell,chicb small cables were fixed to them, by meair Aga i , ll ,„ . the whole fram e v as d rawn i nto its Pac- of tar At low water, .th e stone was ta ken 0: barges, and they floated with to, thc l ( 9 '" On Sunday last, at Ilu gmau ' s C as tl e , Tw ie ' Lady,of 11,nry Cole, Esq. of a son. BIRTH. NIARRIED. x - son - f Johg t Yestertjav, at Haeliney Church, John, seco ll on d (..105 fluo(liva 'l, Esq. of 7 Oare-I-lonse, Wilts, to Saraii,s!c „ of ter of Edward Ausin. o'f Wai t. " At St. Brde's, . t Fleet-street, Williaq%. of ' rll ` i).' rJ Fleet-inarket, t 9 Miss Wheaclon„ only clauglit e - Wheadon, Esq. of Erith, Kent. On the 19th of May ins a t. iie a ... t s_t li ,rt l e ) c e!l ., a lin t e . . l l . l , Er'Eilis, aged 19, daughter 4 , f the John Stu 72d year of 1s s age, 'Whitley i :Co.. l3 r Y t 7Gth of Peace, and a It 1 , 1111, • • st!. oi .3-lonce. , t er • same day a t County • • II •nry Kettle, or, lan), in Surrey, • • _ of 1• Is JIIS t;' 10th Thomas Goodall, ESQ son, Bart. of Porde'. On th e pincipal Bni-eessfor the 1,...t00"P at Cheite' p e t tO ..one of Geors - el•lest 1— • • g°bef"lel :V " el;.lc'ee:an-'e day. •11(4 : 1 „: : 41 .e ll A te si z i-t o i' f - t s i t ; r c e l e a tej-a*e'' 'dcr. is 1 115 Kentish'Tic same day, at ° 1 1% . • ; seed 79 ' °F:j . is:ll •• ofate Charles-street, Covent-gird .n• at, h do the 2^th of March astott oetaheit s fk os r::e u s th• 11 years asst..iv months, and whose ac together nrik g e 170. Pi' ?"31;-"7 DIED. BitCO 's M orning', :3 mi owes after 9. HIGH IVATEq AT I.OI\fDON BRIDGE i r O lf)81-“ e ' r Eren.ing, minutes itit -. Cra LONDON: Printed by J. 13. CARST,‘,IIIS. No.:, v. buildioLts : and publislied NV., A. SC;II.IPPS.: " 1 t „ l ice at tnettts, Orderi, Lettelrs (post-paid-),&c• luu the SIJ-()I , VICE. N O. 6.2, Straw' : wst ere ..`h