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ebet the ease #9 atatet( did not warrant the exercise of the delicaie juriidiction which was vested in the House of Commons There were other ways of coming at the real muse of the rase, which might and could be resorted to bernre the Hon. Member for Middlesex applied to ti-e , se. He might, for instance, have applied, in the proper quarter, for an inspection of the minutes of the court-martial ; and, after reading them, he could then have ascertained whether there was any just ground for the more solemn proceeding of an anpeal to Parliament. With reference to what bad peen said of the conversation thtt took place between the commanding officer and the soldier, and to the assurance that if the soldier expressed his contrition for the one offence he should not be punished for the other, he was confident that the conversation had no effect on the minds of the five eentiemen who composed the court-martial, and that the decided purely on the evidence brought before them. Of this court-martial the commanding officer with whom the conversation is said to have taken place was not one; and he was confident-- relying, as he did on the honour and probity of five gen tlemen, bound to administer justice on their oaths—that the soldier was tried and sentenced for the military offence alleged against him, and not for any political offence which might have been known to the commanding i.fficer. There was no allegation in the petition, nor nothing in the statement read to the House by the Member for Middle lex. which connected the commanding officer with the conduct of the court-martial ; and as that court mat' was acknowledged to have been held with strict privy, and the puni hment awarded according Art clew of War, he certainly did not see the p prndecing at present the papers which were re Colonel PEEL was satisfied, from what ' manner in which cnurte.martial were co -soldier had been fairly tried for th alleged against him, and he should of the minutes of the coert-marti the character of Major Wyndl- Sir F. BURDETT, whe' cow or withdrawn to he r seer the motion was pressed Cot m, would Vote for i ; •odut•ed hereafter in an amended factory e l tic id atinn o f the s a method of procuring a satis t ant to every clime case. The question at issue that was the punishm ent awar d for there could he nodo ubt ' ed on this oc -asion gr ea tly exceeded the m ea s ure o f t h e what li e k new o f h; offence. Colonel Wyndham, from was the very last min whom he would supp ose m, to cruelty o r op? ,y to be guilty of anything approaching (Hear, hear)e-eb reeeinn.—( Hear. ) He ad-eittt d that soldi ery, t h e m , lit it was necessary for the safety of the riteactien of the public, and still more for the ch aracter c f Major Wyndham, that the case should be luny te re l ereto should vote, therefore, for inquiry ; and in th e r od. He 8 4 ti p a tean time he implored the Government to turn e e en to the subj ,Tar ect, revise the Articles of 1 6e. a eemed to he undeniable that men were fre -94"h‘-..-v Ptlai shed for one offence, under the pretence that they had n,,E emitted another. The existence of such a 41).:/e was mf instrnus; but its abuse intolerable and de tstae h's TI ie f e el i ngs of the people were much excited on t 1 ;he subject, and he hoped the Government would at once -t e siiee the NI , atiny Act, and take away the possibility of the recut rent -e of such offences. &a 1 pro to the o quired. he knew of the nducted, that the e n , Eimental offence vote for the production 11 in order to do justice to --- S i r ROB ~ ... ...,,......,..._. ERT PEEL said, the charge was, that a ~01dier had been punished for one offence, having commit. red another ; and that was a question totally distinct from al punishment to which the Hon. Baronet ba the to rpor d n dr , ,ffl to direct the attention of the House. He ` oughteavou r c would have been better if that question had th been left untouched ; but convinced, as hethat if tituted themselves a tribunal for the was, exination ties c rm s . , aceedinga of this court-martial, on the mere of the pr of the offender, they would have a petition for stateme nt the same t. urpose from every person who might hereafter He should certainly vote against the motion be tried. rug to constitute themselves a tribunal on such ..... By co nsent ground,, f, i the investigation of the proceedings f court-inarti al, they were withdrawing from the offi o ce a o f 0e regi me nt, and from the Commander-in-Chief, th r e orliol, o f ti to a utbority delegated to them by Act of p ,rliarneat , and a t the Rattle time placing the matter under e v ,,,.. 1 . 4 pna, - ibl e j, ariedicrion which could be selected. He tl- 'idjv ail t. dti tat nothing could be more highly con cant- 4,, b ' t lt e i tfficer should accuse a soldier of one of &rune. r , ln th ac to be peu;shed for another. He %you'd fence an Mr se , ti ,, :i ; i but he must at the same time say, begin by s tats rig t . a f r impossible):odier to maintain the dis - ma of S oe w w ere allowed to he political that it woui' i , be u cipline of ear army i, partizans, COM ' , To nd eL '.) Then,spap!rs.or members of political club& —(Cheer. indeed, a standing curse—then ight they bid army would be in truth a abeers.) He thought, Sc. power of the officer in hrewell to c'is . 1 liberty.--(, unication with the etardinelv, that it was fully in the the memb7 of a en romend to inters lict a soldier's c ou'Ul new Vapers, a nd vrevent him from bei. n g Polio, -al Union. lie denied the truth ot,‘ of e a do c c it. t i r z i e n n e . that soldier eostinaed to ei•joy all the right. portion of his a was quite dear the soldier must forfeit that f to the hick would interfere with the .discipline of civic right x v „ham..) the army (a But now to address himse: matter immesit, ‘tlYr before them :—The question sna:.oly 71s, had they „ u Slide rat prima facie evidence to induce them to b e li e ve t ba,t thia individual bad been punished for he had bean a ccused of another? The one offence while expediency of corporal puniiihnlents had notbing to d to o with this charge; it was most improper to appeal men's passions on this topic. Now he did not th;uk apritaa .fticie case had been made out ;Thathe disbelieved the charge ( Hear.) He could no t believe Major Wyndham and the ether officers on the Caurt- martial could have violated tneir oaths by trying a so; dies on one charge and punishing him on another.—(Hear, hear.) He did not believe that Lord Hill and the other superior officers of the army wpwid have suffered the proceeding' to pass unnoticed, it anything appeared against this line of conduct pursued by Major Wyndham.—(Hear, hear.) Wishing. therefo re. :to leave the army to its natural Protect -ors —desiring net to est iblish a precedent for the i t , terferetice of the House of Commons in such matters, whit. mu s l : be fatal to t he decided state discipline of the army —he would g ive his . Middl az-ainat the proposition of the Hon. Meeriber fur e ,se tr. however it might be shaped.—(ear.) Colonel O'GRADY was quite convined that it was :.ul p o , =dile the charges brought against Major Wyndham ant: others would be sounded in fact. The charge against ' the pi,: +oner was necessarily referred to one or more of the Articles of War, and this most strictly, and no verdict could be riven except upon the charge. He was quite conv i nce d that the court-martial had been properly can ducted, an d that the officers upon it had acted as became gentlemen and me n of honour. Mr. HUNT atrerm-nualy .upported the inquiry. Sir R. FERGUSSON thought it would be better to leave the case to the propo• military 3 utborities. Lord -- LENOX high l y lao d e d the personal and mili tary character of Major 'Wyndham, and expcetakal his utter dishellef of the allegations in the petition. He hawed that the assertion in one paragraph, touching the man's being k..pt in the guardhouse to receive a seeend hundred I o hes, was false, and contended that this ought to induce them to doubt the truth of all the rest of the petition. For the put pose of showing the falsehood of all the charges agairoo his friend Major Wyndham, he would vote for the inquiry. M.. SLANEY was in favour of inquiry, though he dia. believed the assertions in the petition. Inquiry, he be lieved, was soon to take place; he therefore requested the lion. Member for Middles xto posrp bis motion. Mr. HUME said the Right Hon. Gentleman begged the question altogether. He e l s • ti there was nothing is ;he charge respecting a political oft.nee. Of course there was none. The Right Hon. Gentlem in admitted that a man became a soldier in order to defend his rigs as a citizen. Well, then, when the man was if duty, surely dare could be no great offence in his expressing his political sentiments. It was tru-, there were ex-parte statements, His very obj it was. that the other party should he heard. It was a reflectian on Lord Hill that he had n:t yet taken notice of the subject. There was, therefore no means of appeal but to that House, and that was the reason why he brought forward this motion. After the candid and manly obser vations of the Noble Lord opposite, he cl;.i not wish to press the question in a manner to which the bioble Lord might object. He was prepared, therefore, to withdraw the present motion, arid give notice of a motion for this day week, to refer the petition to a Select Committee. He did this in order that no one might accuse him of tak ing the House unprepared. The motion was then withdrawn. SUFFOLK ASSIZES. Mr. R. WASON moved for leave to bring in a Bill to remove the Suffolk Assizes, in summer, from Bury St Edmund's to Ipswich. He did not wish them removed altogether from one town to the other—all he desired was, that the Assizes ;night be held, as they once had been, at each of the towns alternately. Alter a few words from the Earl of Jermyn, Mr. Wil son, Mr. Lamb, Mr. Morison, and Sir R. Peel, the mu tion was withdrawn. OBSERVANCE OF THE SABBATH. Sir ANDREW AGNEW presented a petition from London anti Westminster, for the better observance of the Sai.hstl.. The Hon. Baronet then went on to move that a Select C..muntree be appointed to inquire into the laws and practice relating fir 74/ Otoerviteee of the Lord's day. Atter a few yvords . froaalkii! Lord A L prpRP had no ohjentinia,:lo the motion, but be Loped the,comenittee wordiLsiot,,:isnome fresb restrig tions ou the people. Mr. LAMB consented, like hie "N,aki Fritxtd, to the motion, but strongly urged it on Ow Msvet that he 34bao d woad not restrict the amusements of the people, and make the Sabbath a day of puritanical gloom. Lord SANDON supported the motion. Mr. HUME cordially concurred in the view of the Right Hon. Secretary for the Home Department (Mr. Lamb). To impose restrictions on the poor to which the rich were not subjected was most unjust. They ought to put an end to the amusement and business of the rich as well as those of the poor. After a few words from Mr. Courtenay, Mr. Pringle, Mr. Shaw, Mr. Wyse, and Mr. C. Pelham, the question was put a• d carried, and the Committee was appointed. Mr. HUME moved that words should be inserted in the appointment. to extend the inquiry to the practices of the rich as we.P as the poor. He did not persist, how. ever, in his amendment. TREATY WITH RUSSIA. Lord ALTHORP gave notice that on the 12th of July he would call the attention of the House to the treaty with The K•ng's Pr;ntere Committee was re-appointed, on the motion at '.sir. HUME. The °l ). ,er Orders of the Day were then disposed of in to „, " Jai manner, and the House adjourned at a Quarter oree. ROUSE OF LORDS, JULY 3. Lord WHARNCLIFFE rn .ved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Metropolitan Cemetery Bill. Lord KENYON opposed the readiiie. He said the measure was altiigether a job—it had been got up; it never ciiuld an•wer the purpose for which it was said to he intended; therefore he moved that it might be read a third time this diy six rr.onth9. The Marques• of SALISBURY, in a few observations, supported the ; The Bill was then read a third time. Lord GOWER presented a petition from the potteries in Staffordshire in favour of the Birmingham and London Railway Bill. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY moved that the evidence given before the Sunderland Duck Committee be provided. The Marquess of SALISBURY wished to ask a Noble M.irquess opposite (the Magness of Sligo) whether it was his intention to carry through the Steam Carri.ge Bill this session. The Noble Marquess wished to guard himself against any decided expression one way or the other on the sufject, 'hough he could not help thinking the preamble of the Bill required very con siderable consideration. Ttie Marquess of SLIGO Wi9 not prepsred to-day to give ti.e Nobie Msrqu.ss an answer ; but the Select Com mittee having adjourned over till Monday next, by that day he would be prepared to give a reply. Lord RODEN presented several petitions against the Government system of education in , roduced into Ireland. FOREIGN RELATIONS. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY—I confess I see with much pleasure the Noble Earl at the head of his Majesty's Government in his place, because I want to put to him one or two questions relative to the state of our foreign policy, to which, my Lords, my attention hash-en more particularly called by perceiving that a pe c 'al mis sion is about to he sent from this country to the Court of St. Petersburgh.—(Hear, hear.) I cannot hut think, my Lords, that an embassy on which so high a per sonage as that of the Lord Privy Seal has been sent must he of the greatest importance.—(H• ar, hear.) I see that Thomas Duncombe, Esq., is appointed secre tary to the embassy, and perhaps, when the facts are fully known, we shall find that more of the Now, Earl's friends and relations are to accompany the mission. But on that point I know it is not proper for me to inquire, though our curiosity may be a little excited by the circumstance th .t some of the Noble Earl's friends, in their over-zeal for Reform, were carried in the other House, a few evenings since, to the length of applying the strongest and most opprobrious epithets of an illustrious Monarch with who .. we are in a state of alliance.—( Hear.) I cannot help regretting, my Lords, that such language was indulged in, and that so little re collection exists in the other House of past transactions, in which the illustrious brother of the Monarch now on the throne of the Russias had so many claims on our admira titan and esteem.—(Hear, bear.) I hope, there ore, the Noble Lord has not gone out to add to the irritation that language must produce, but rather that he is instructed to soften it down, and to do away with the unfavourable im pression it must create. Ido not expect, however, that the Noble Earl will inform us of the nature and objects of the expedition; but I beg leave to remark to him that we are arrived at nearly the close of the session, and that we have not had from him, as yet, any explanaion of the state of our foreign relations, which are, in my opinion, in a most difficult situation—in a situation almost as diffi cult of arrangement as the Reform Bill introduced by the Noble Earl.—(Hear, hear.) lam justified in thus speak ing of our foreign relations at present, for when I look at 'he continued possession of Algiers by the French, at the continued possession of Ancona by the same Power, and the protracted and almost interminable train of the negotiations between Holland and Belgium, I cannot call to my mind a period when our foreign position was more complicated and perplexed.—(Hear.) We have been for nearly two years engaged in the Belgian and Dutch nego tiation, without having brought it to close ; and the question I wish to put to the Noble Earl is for the purpose of ascertaining whit the five Powers have lately done—whether the five Powers have come to any arrangement on th.e subject, and whether the ratification has been yet received ? I also wish to ask if Holland is the only Power that has not yet acqui eked? and whether, if it has, there is any prolmbility of the conaent of the King of the Dutch being speedily ob tained ?....-(He ir ; hear.) I put these questions because I cannot help thinkug that the Eintiassy to the Court cf St. Peiershurgh arises out ul fresh difficulties in bringing the arrangement to a conclusion, and I feel it would be right tl satisfy the public wind on the subject.—(Hear.) I hope, therefore : the Noble Earl will give roe some satis faction tin these points ; particularly with regard to Bel gium, on which question I think the peace of Europe de pend4._(Efear.) I have put these questions oq this occa casion, but I hope, before the end of the Session, some N - c hl e Lord better acquainted with the subject than myself wail! call the notice of the House to the whole foreign policy the country.—(Hear.) Certainly, if no one else thinks proper to di. to, I wilt ; and, so far as Holland is con cerhed, I declare that I, sh ill be happy to take any oppor tunity of expressing the high ;inairation which I feel at the gal anZry, magianaity, and manl.pe;;t syhich the King of H o ll an d o r,r ; wn in resisting the demands of the 4ve PO W 4! 9. Earl GREY—My Lords, I should think the Noble Marquess must be aware that I cannot answer all the questions he has put. Tha Noble Marquess has expressed a hope that I should .ford Irina satisfaction, but, my Lords, I despair of doing eo.-s-(Hear, bear.) It is not the first time the Noble Lord lass put questions to and numerous as those occasions have been, I feel that I nave never been able t.c answer him to my own satiafac. doe ;a to his.—(Hear, heat.) The Noble Marquess first adverts ro s mission, on which a nob:: relation of mine is ab •ut to depart, 4.414 says he will not inquire i;;;to the se cret of that embassy...4)4lt scarcely has he said so when he goes on to comment op the reasons which appeared to, him to he so important as to call for the mistii.oa. The Noble Marquess may indulge his suppositions as he pleases, rut it must be evident to your Lordships and to him, that I can opt say anything on the subject si present ; and, with that reccsrk, I must dismiss that part of the Lord's ohteryatinns. Tne Noble Marquess then proceeds to eonameut Op language made use of in the other House, on a la& occasion; but must snbmit to your Lo,rtiships' diecretion that we are not ruetliere to discuss. the terra. n which a debate should take place in the House of Commons. anti therefore, I have nothing to do with it. Still I am not sorry the iit.hle Lord has mentioned the cir cumat&n.ee, as it gives me the opposttinity of saying that, whatever may he the feelings of any persons Ott rat o f foreign policy, th-re is a respect due to foreign Powers with whom we are in alliance, iihich should not be lost sight of in dis4ussions in either House of Patliam nt.— (Hear.)—Nly Lords, f do deprecate all language of that sort, and I think it equally loconsistent with the dignity of Parliament aid the interests of the country.—( Hear, hear.) It creates difficulties where none exists, and no men can more cie,:ply lament that language calculated to give offence to foreign Powers has been used that - . I do.--(hear, hear, hear.) Now, my Lords, with regard to the state of the negotiations between flatland and Bel2ium, I can only say that I agree with the Noble Marquess, when he states.tha so lung as the restion remains open there wtil he danger t., the preservation nf the lease of Europe.—(Hear.) I have been of that opinion ainpo these negotiations were opened, and I have spared no exer,aQui t.o bring them to a satisfactory termination, by which the interest. of all con cerned might be peomtged, and the general tranquillity of Europe Is cured.—Olear, hear.) My Lords, I h ave t o regret that three negotiations are not yet brought to a con elusion. I am desirous for the moment toarrive when they shall be happily eettlid y but I cannot enter into the subject more partieuiarly at present, and the Noble Mar quess must be gon,tent with these observation", in reply to the 9,uestions he has put.--(Hear, hear.) The Noble Alarqus has thought proper co speak in great admiration of tie ctaattuct of the ,King of litillatati, I do not wish to say one word oa the subject ; hut j cannot help re marking that It is a little e;traordinary that the Noble Lord, not knowing all that has passed in the course of the negotiations, has taken upon himself to state that the adverse party—if the King of Holland is to be consi dered the adverse party, which I do not now pretend to determine—to those Powers, of whom Great Britain is one, has been always in the right, and that the five Powers, Great Britai❑ among them, has been always in the wrong.—( Hear, hear ) Whether that resistance be justifiable or not remains yet to be proved ; but it is rather strange that the approbation of the Noble Marquis should alone be given to that course which his own Go vernment has been hostile to.—(Hear, hear.) The Duke of WELLINGTON, who was imperfectly heard at the bar, was understood to say that, with respect to the conduct of the Emperor of Russia, he regretted the Noble Earl had not given some fuller explanation, in order that the absurdity of charges brought against th rt illustrious Monarch should be exposed. For his own part, he must pronounce his entire conviction that his Imperial Majesty had performed every article of the treaty to which he was hound, as far as he (the Duke of Wel. liogton) was able to judge.—(Fif.ar.) THE GRAVESEND PIER. The Earl of DARNLEY, in bringing up the report of the Committee on the Gravesend Pier Bill, went into some details which were not understood at the bar, and in which he commented on the conduct of those Peers who had voted in the Committee without hav ing heard the evidence. Lord WYNFORD thought it was quite sufficient that every Member of a Committee should make himself mas ter of the subject to enable him to take a part, particularly when an attempt was made, as in this instance, by re- Pe ted adjournments, to bear down a set of poor people, whose interests would be destroyed by the Bill. It was said that, it the Bill did not pass Gravesend would be ruined. Even if it were to he injured he should be better pleased than if tie 13.11 passed. The Marquess of SALISBURY had not voted until he was in complete possession of the facts of the case. Lord BEXLEY had been guided in giving his vote on the Gravesend Pier Bill from a thorough conviction, on his part, that the preamble had not been proved before the Committ-e. Lord WHARNCLIFFE hoped that the House would not consent to throw any slur nn the maj.irity in the Corn mitre- on this Bill who were opposed to it. The evidence in the case of Gravesend Pier Bill had been printed. and he was of opinion that any N.ble Lord who made himself master of that evidence was well entitled to vote as any other, and he thought that great good was oftea done by such vo•ee. Viscount STRANGFORD went to Gravesend for the express purpose of ascertaining the tacts of the case nefore he gave his vote nn the Pier Bill, and for the purpose of judging from what he there saw of the cause of so great a difference in opinion on the Bill. Having taken that troule he certainly consideicd himself as well entitled to give his vo e as any N , ble Lord who had stayed at home at ease. He certainly would admit that the pier would be a great 4 onvenience to the steam-bo p.ssengers, and that a large proportion of the inhabitants of Gravesend were favou, able to the Bill ; but it was admitted on all hands that the convenience could only he purchased by the entire ruin of the waterinen, and he must say he did net feel prepared, when called upon to give his vote on the Bill, to pass a measure which would sentence to de struction so large a p irtion of the industrious classes or - Gravesend. - The Earl of DARNLEY admitted that the Noble Vis count had repre-entrd t e came of the watermen of Graves end very fairly, as constituting the main feature of the ob jection to the Pier Bill : he was not disposed to press for the recommittal of the Bill. having simply discharged his duty as Chairman of the Committee by bringing up the replirt. SCOTCH GENERAL ASSEMBLY PETITION. The Earl of BELHAVEN rose to present the petition to which he bad referred during the course of lamt week as being in pissession of, from the General Assetnhly of the Kirk of Scotland. wherein the body state their appro. val of the national plan of education adopted by the Go vernment for the instruction, as well religious as other wise, of the poorer classes of Ireland, both Protestants and Carlinlies. The Archbishop of ARMAGH observed that, if he un derstood the petition rightly, the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland approved of the plan of education for Ireland, because it was understood by that Assembly to be identical with the plan of education pursued towarda the same class of people throughout the whole of Scot land. If otherwise, that Assembly would be surrender ing the great principle of their Union—namely, that the Bible was open to all. How such a misconception had gone forth amongst the persons who composed that As sembly as that the plan proposed for Ireland was the same as that which was followed in Scotland, he did not know, but all he could say was that they were totally mistaken upon that point, and did not rightly understand the na ture of the Irish plan of education. What the Prel icy and Protestant clergy who were opposed to this plat' com plained of was, not that the Catholics were at the disposal of their priests with respect to their study of the Bible, but th it they being so at their priests' disposal in that respect, the Protestants were deprived of the Bible, and prevented from an unrestricted study of it. He and those who thought with him would never consent to teach Protestants that it was proper to keep out of sight any portion of the Scriptures ; neither did he assent to the necessity for giving them a special license to study nut of *shoot hours that volume which formed the basis of all human happiness. The plan of education was at va riance with the opinions of most of his brethren of the Irish Church. Of the Prelates of Ireland, eighteen wets opposed to it ; the clergy were also opposed to it ; and it was also deprecated in numerous petitions from all classes, but more particularly trim the Presbyterian Dis senters, not only of Ireland, bat also of Scotland and Eng- I ,nd. Allusion had been made to the opposition which the Irish prelacy had fostered amongst their respective clergymen to this plan. And it had been said, if the clergy were left to th , ir own judgment they would approve of the plan. Now be beg.-ed to assure their Lordships that so far from the Bishops in Ireland being obliged to invite the clergy in their respective dioceses to object to the plan, they were obliged very frequently to exert themselves to repress their feelings, and to keep down the ebullitions of their warmth when expressing their objections to the plan. The Duke of WELLINGTON concurred entirely in the opinion of the Must Reverend Prelate who had just spoken—namely, that the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland were not accurre y informed upon the subject of the new plan of education for Ireland at the time that their assent was gay. nto the petition. He knew that there was in general no time so uselessly spent in that House as the discussing the way in which petitions were tot up ; but in the case of the present petition there had been a coesiderefile misapprehension on the part of the G. neral Assembly, and his attention having been drawn to it, he deemed it necessary to bring it before their Lordships, It appeared that at tee meeting of the Gene ral Assembly, at which the resolutions upon winch the petition was founded Were proposed and agreed to, the Solicitor-General for Scotl • till, who is a member of that Assembly, as well as an officer of the Gov, rnrnent, got up aed stated that he had received certain official letters from a gentiemee rem was also in the service of Government, and who was in a situation where be was most likely to be possessed of accurate information op the subject of Irelaed—he meant the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieu tenant of Ireland. rt appeared that hitherto the General Assembly had only possessed that knowledge of the plan of education which was possessed by th;;ir lordships, the House of Commons, and the pui!lic at large. The letter to which the Solicitor-General referred, as having been officially received, purported to be from the Chief Secre tary of Ireland, and he would refer to the proceedings in the Assembly, in oiler to show that that body was not be fore aware Of the real plan of education, if even they could he supposed to be so, after they had lieaF(i the contents of that letter. The Noble Duke here referred to the proceed ices of the General Avsemhly, as reported in one o f the Scotch p A. 7. elder of the name of Dr. Duncan asked the Solicitor- Cieueeat to eileratfl the nature of the plan of education, as he did not mean to foreclose him self front expressing his dissent from it. The Solicitor- General then ex a laihed that one part of the plan, a, stated by the Right Hon. Secretary fir I ;releedp teas, that he (Mr. Stanley) saw no objection to the estafilishme n t of ra Bibie class ie every school which was conducted on the Government plan ; to be held once a day, for the express purpose of reading the Bible, at which the Protestants were to be compelled to attend, but the Ca tholics were :sot zo be forced to give their attendance.— (Hear, bear.) The Salieitcr-C.e..eeral then said that h. wished the General Assembly to uaderst,-.nii that this exp i i , ci :ipp of the plan did not rest upon one, hut span several conatn6eisat!ons from the Chief Secretary o Ireland. Now alter the Solicitor-Ceeeral had given this inform a:Len to the General Assembly, a resolution was Solieifer-Psi;er . ad , wa ind sol w ei h y ic o h bt ee ti o n u e l t o i proposed by Dr. CV.;;-, Which was founded on that corra -1 oninication of the that the approbation of the plan re be found embodied in the petition W to er tl t i o e 13 '1: B ois: Thus at appisaW4 e e iuration, by the f t tli- he eff ir er6 ie t B h e ib u t ' bi t Y h ' ?re in consequence o ,lasses in every Government school. H e -retain greed that al, comments on the potion had better .ee avoided, but his attention Wing been excited by the locument to which lie had just referred b e i ng put i nto his hands, it did appear but itqt to the General . , Assembly, that it should be known that their approb 1- tion of the plan was given, because they were informed it contained certain conditions which were afterwards not complied with. The subject was most important—it was neither more nor less thin the education of a whole people, and the Bo ird of Education had already pro nounced their opinion that no system was deserving of aid the principle of which was other than in taking as a chief guide, that book wherein was contained the foundation of all moral oblieations. The Earl of BELHAVEN said it appeared to him that the N •hle Duke was in error when he averred that the Solicitor-General stated himself to have received a corn • munication from the Chief Secretary to Ireland. He be lieved the Solicitor-General said no such thing ; he allu ded to a letter received by another individual, a Member of the Assembly; but he di•i not at that time say it was an official letter, and he simply stated the contents of that letter, in order that they might serve as an inducement, or rather a foundation, for some of the proceedines of the General Assembly that day. The letter merely stared that the Government had no objection to the formation of Bible classes in the schools ; and the petitioners, adopting that principle, aer~ed in the propriety of granting to the Protestants the fullest liberty in the use of the Bible, and also in its being daily read in the classes. The letter, therefore, no where states, that compul sion is to he used to form those classes, nor could the Noble Duke make out that the General As sembly entertaineol any idea that the schoolmasters were to use compulsion towards forming these Bible classes. There were no Catholic schoolmasters, and, although a Catholic might attend those class•-s it he liked, still he wa. very sure no schoolmas•er in Ireland would ever think for a moment to enforce upon any Catholic, an attend ince at a class where the Bible was indiscriminately real. He understood the Chief Secretary to say that the Govern ment had not any objection to the form ttion of Bible classes in the cho u hut the those classes were not to be formed during school hours—they might he held either before or after, but were to form no portion of the common duties of the school. That arrangement would be satis f,ctory, q) • e understood it, and ao he believed the Gene ral Assembly understood it; and if such should be the gee neral impres,ian in the minds of the persons composing that body, he certainly saw no objection to the Govern ment encouraging the establishment of those classes in the schools in Ireland. The Bishop of EXETER was prepared, on the part of the General Assembly of the Kirk of Scotland, to go much further than the Noble Earl had done; for the petitioners expressy tae th-or belief that the Bilr'e classes were to be established during the ordinary school hours, and it was in that belief that the Solicitor-General withdrew his res du torn in favour of that of Dr. Cook ; at the same time de claring, that if the Doctor would propose his resolution, he would not only witt,draw that which lie had brought for ward, but he would twist readily second it. The Solicitor- General had, however, gone much further than he was wart anted, and he had, in point of fact, placed the General Assembly in error as to the sentiments of the Government upon the introduction of the Bible classes in the schools. In all the schools in Scotland not only was there a Bible class, but the whole system of education was founded on the liable ; and althou h the Roman Catholics had their own Bishops and clergy, the children were suffered to avail themselves of the scriptural education thus offered to them, and to join in reading the Protestant version of the Bible. It would he in vain that children should be at liberty to read in the Bible before or alter school according to their own option. It was absolutely necessary that they should have a teacher to direct them at those times which should be considered appropriate, and should he set apart fir that study. He was sure that if the Clergy were to be the instructors of children, the duty wtiulif be performed with all the z•sl which could possibly be iirou;ht to it; but he believed Noble Lords would agree with him in thinking that the time of the Clergy would be ill employed in being the sch tolmasters of the children, unless they were prepared to receive their doctrines in other ways and upon sther odcasions. These could he no sound system of education if religious instruction were separated from moral precepts. For in what did moral education consist but the inculcation of those duties which man was bound to discharge towards his neighbours; and what was the great incentive to the fulfilment of those duties but the consciousness that they were the will of God ? Then, he would ask, how was that will to be learned unless access were given to the book which revealed that will? That book, it seemed, was to be completely shut out, for the Protestants were not secured in the possession of it, and the Roman Catholics were to be consigned to the care of those whose principle it was that it was a ha•l mode of teaco;ng people their duty to put the Bible into their han.ls. The Earl of HADDINGTON bore testimony to the corr ctness of the statements made by the Noble Duke (Wellington) near him. He had good reason to know that but for the solicitor's speech, a strong petition would have been forwarded from the General Assembly, expres sive of their disapprobation of the Government plan of education in Ireland. Lord PLUNKET begged to repeat the statement he had made on a former evening. that there had been above 600 applications to the Board of Education since its esta blishment, and that there were 125,000 children niiw edu eating under the sys - em. He entirely agreed with the Noble Duke (Wellington), that no system of education, founded on abstract principles of morality, and xcluding rdigi.n, could be good. Nay, he went further and said, that no system was good which was not founded on Chris tianity —but consistent with that principle, as he contended —viz, the design to make education national—(H ar.) In order to effect that, it was absolutely necessary that where a great part ofthe population were Roman Catholics, nothing should tie introduced to deprive them of the ad vantages of the system. The Noble and Learned Lord, after entering into a defence of the details of the system adopted by the Board of Education in Ireland, proceeded to refer to the petition now under consideration. He begged their Lordships to recollect, that the petitions referred, it,t to what the petitioners conceived ought to be done in Scotland, but to what ought to be done in Ire land. In Scotland no such system was necessary, Not the Board of Education bad adopted the plan which was now the subject-of consideration, because they found it necessary to comprehend the Roman Catholics. Now what did the General Assembly of Scotland require according to the petition ? They required that there should h e a daily Bible school, and to that there was no objection that he was aware of. There was no objection that the children of all religions should get moral and re ligious instruction together during certain hours, and that at other tunes means should be afforded them of receiving religious instruction adapted to their peculiar sentiments. He believed this was the feeling of the members of the Board of Education, and of his Majesty's Ministers, on this point. The LORD CHANCELLOR could not approve of the time which the Right Rev. Prelate (the Bishop of Exeter) had selected for entering on this subject. There was one part of the Right Rev. Prelate's statement, however, to which he (the Lord Chancellor) thought himself called upon to reply, as it involved a charge against an Hon. and Learned Friend of his, be meant the Solicitor-General fur Scotland. He was sure that it the writer of the cominuni cation on which the Right Rev. Prelate founded his state ment, was the respectable prison the Rght Rev. Prelate represented, he must dei ply lament the use made of his letter, and if that use had been made with the writer's consent. he could not fail to regret that he had commis sioned a person in the situation of the Rev. Prelate to vent calumnies so gross.—(Hear, hear.) He the (Lord Chancellor) stated, w.th the utmost confidence, that the charge against the Solicitor-General w s as unfounded as it was foul. There was not in the three kingdoms a man more wholly incapable of being th, author, the party, or the approver • f anything which deserved—even by the utmost perversion of ingenuity--the appellation of " a irick."--(Cheers.) The Soli;itor-cieneral for Scotland was remarkable, above all other men at the Scotch Bar, for an eforaordinary accuracy in the statement of facts — that was his peculiar accomplishment, and, therefore, to know that Mr. Stanley had not written the letter, was to know that the Solicitor-General could not have Ina le the statcpent ssctifted zo him. if any doubts however, remained On the subject, those doubts were le i,oved by a contradiction which be (the Lord Chan (Thor) was put in possession of by persons filling high. situations in . 4icotland, ii.tt,r referring to the conimuni eations made to him on this subject, in contradiction to the charge made against the Solicit r-General the Noble toil Learned Lord proceeded to observe that the Noble Duke ( (Wellington) se med to have founded his opinion on no thing mole than a newspaper report.a rgport, too, pub ha ed in a country where reports were by no means likes ) to be so accurate as in the metropolis, where the art 4,1 reporting was more practiaed and better understood.— (He ir, hear.) Before sitting down, he might be al lowed to say, that he could have wished that thl Right Rev. Prelate (the Bishop of Exeter) had derived some benefit from experience, and had paused and taken a rattle more pains to inquire before he s bad brought forwaid so unfounded a charge on the S dicitor General for Scotland Nut many weeks ago the Right Rev. Prelate had charged •oine individual in some department of the Governin c e i t a it i luty—and a grits abuse it would have been had it .vitti having been the means, through an abuse of offi w : . 1, th h e irn &i,e by of Buckingham, we understood) pot now in Lis place, to u l i t n d ga betraying letter ad t d h r e e ss c e ( ti n t fi l d ' a n c Noble re " D e u d k n( `, ' \ • the King. It was confidently stated dist the letter wa. published verbatim, and it was as confidently concluded that the publication could only have occurred through the instrumentality of some individual in a high official situa tion. The assertion had been made with so much confi dence that an investigation was instituted. They had heard of such a thing as "a trick" having been played with the King's Cabinet, and it was, therefore, desirable to ascertain how the letter referred to could have been communicated to the conductors of a newspaper. The result of the investigation proved, that it was not from the Treasury or the Home Office, or the Foreign Office, or the Admiralty, or the Exchequer, or even the Lord Chan celloi's private room, for it was well he should look near home—(a laugh)—that the foul stream, carrying with it so gross a breach of confidence, had issued. Would their Lordships believe it ? Upon examination it turned out that the letter bad not been published at all—(Loud cheers.) There was no carpus delecti, as the lawyers called it. Not a line or a tittle of the letter bad been published, and the whole charge proved utterly unfounded. After finding how much lie had been imposed upon in that instance, the Right Rev. Prelate should certainly be more cautious how lie came forward with accusatory statements again, and how he charged the Hon. and Learned Solicitor-General for Scotland with being guilty of a foul trick. The Duke of WELLINGTON felt be had done no more than his duty in making the statement he had made, arid he might add that, in . his opinion, no part of that statement had been shaken by what fell from the Noble and Learned Lords opposite. The Bishop of EXETER begged to remind their Lord. ships that in the case referred to, when a letter addressed to his Majesty was said to have been published, he had not stated any thing as a fact, he had merely stated what he had heard. The LORD CHANCELLOR thought that as the Right Ri-v. Prelate had been so grossly deceived, as he had been on a former occasion, he ought to have been more cautious in making new charges. The Duke of CUMBERLAND begged to say that he had sat near the Noble Duke (Buckingham) when the Right Rev. Prelate called attention to the publication in question. The Noble Duke said his letter had been pub lished nearly verbatim, and, he added, that he had given no copy of the letter to any one, and had shown it only to two persons, members of his own family, on whose dis cretion he could entirely rely. The Right Rev. Prelate, therefore, was well justified in the part he had taken. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that if ten Noble Dukes repeated ten times that the letter published was a verbatim copy of the letter addressed to the King, he (the Lord Chancellor) must contradict the statement. He had compared the letter himself with the publication ; others had compared it, and there was not the slightest pretence for saying that the person who had written the letter in the newspaper had ever seen the letter addressed to the King. The author of the new-paper letter, who signed himself " Radical," was well known, and he had come forward afterwards and distinctly stated that his information was derived from ordinary society, and from a consideration of the general course of events at that time, and that he had no communication whatever on the subject with any Member of his Alajesq's Government. He repeated that there was not a tittle of the real letter published, and that the writer of the newspaper letter had no possible access to the letter addressed to his Majesty. The Duk- of CUMBERLAND wished not to be under stood that the letter to his Majesty was published ver batim. He merely stated his recollection of what had been stated by the Noble Duke (Buckingham) on the subject. The Bishop of EXETER said that although the course he had taken had been misrepresented from the highest place in that House, yet he must be allowed to set himself right with their Lordships. He had made no confident assertions with respect to the letter addressed to his /Ma jesty ; he had merely said that he had bead such an in. ciderit occurred ; that a letter addressed to the King by a Noble Duke bad been published, and he asked the Noble Duke to say whether what he had heard was true or not— to which the Noble Duke replied, that the report was true, for that the letter was nearly verbatim. The Marquess of LANSDOWNE had assisted in com paring the real letter with the published letter, and he confidently asserted, there was not such a resemblance be. tween the two, as to lead any one to suppose that there had been a breich of confidence. Earl GREY understood distinctly that the charge made by the Right Rev. Prelate was, that his M ijesty's Govern ment was connected with a particular newspaper; and, in proof of that charge, he stated, that on a particular day, a private letter addressed to his Majesty, had been pub lished in the newspaper alluded to, and th it the editor of that newspaper could have received the letter from nobody but a Member of his Majesty's Government. Upon com paring the publication and the letter, it appeared, as he (Earl Grey) stated at the time, that the letter could not have been communicated to the newspaper through any Member of his Majesty's Government. Lord HOLLAND sail that this discussion was truly amusing. A Noble and Learned Lord opposite had talker' of a prosecution. What ! pro-ecute a newspaper writer as a sland rer and a 1:hller, merely because he hail stated in his journal that a certain letter had been addressed to the King? But what was the defence of the Right Rev. Prelate against the charge brought against him ? Why, that he had heard of such a communication having been made to a newspaper, which lie understood to be sanc tioned by the Government. Surely their Lordships would not mete out even-handed justice, if they, for a moment, could think of calling a public writer to account for slan der, and, at the same time, consider it befitting the dignity of this House that any man should indulge in slander within its walls.—(Cheers.) The Earl of ELDON and Lord HOLLAND mutually ex plained. The Bishop of EXETER denied that any thing he had stated bore out the representation of the Noble Earl (Grey). lie slid not state that his Majesty's Ministers had given to a certain newspaper the information in ques tion. All i-;e had said was, merely in allusion to an opi. nion which was generally acquiesced in from the belief that that paper was in close connexio❑ with the King's Government. E,rl GREY said that the Right Rev. Prelate had stated openly, that a newspaper had published a letter which it could only have received as a confi , ential communication from the Government. He (Earl Gtey) felt no other sentiment at the thine than disgust, and he felt no other sentiment now than utter contempt.—(Loud cheers from the Ministerial Benches. ) The M trquess SALISBURY knew not how to ex press his feelings, or how to measure his words on hearing the word " contempt" applied to a Right Rev. Prelate of this House. The words originally used by the Right R -v. Prelate were " The newspaper breathes the inspira tion of the Treasury." He called upon the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack to rise up from his seat and say th,it his observations ought rather to apply to a Noble Duke (Buckingham) on that (the opposition) side of the House than to the Right Rev. Prelate. The Bishop of EXETER entreated Noble Lords not to persist in this conversation. Whether any part of his con duct deserved the epithets of " disgust" and " contempt," ipplied to it by the Noble Earl, he would leave it to those who knew him best to say. The LORD CHANCELLOR would not obey the call of the Noole Marquess. He would not admit that he was wrong in any thing he had said, being convinced he was right. He had mule no charge; he had only stood upon his defence. The Noble Duke alluded to had not volun teered an imputation ; he had only answered a question put to him by the Right Rev. Prelate. BOUNDARIE,' Bill. The Duke of RICHMOND moved the Order of the Day for going into Committee on this Bill. Lord WYNFORD contended that, before their Lord ships acceded to the motion, a Select Committee ought to be appointed to inquire into the local circumstances of rich particular case. The Noble Lord concluded by mov ing that the returns and report of the Commissioners of Boundary be referred to a Select Committee, to inquire into the cases of the Irour. i daries of all boroughs containing I,ss than 300 ten pound houses, and particularly to exa• mine the cases of the boroughs of Barnstaple and Hodder a field, and to report their opinions as to what boundaries night be proper for those places. The Duke of RICHMOND said that been expressed by the Noble Lord whose(WharnldclinffoVbemaile had WYNFORD extended atn::tw opposed o a u siu l dliP;rioeeusmeepodool recollect t he th e et lyt h oav t absence he regretted, that Huddersfield could such discussions as a nomination borough. The effect of to have no other i d nq a u lo it n y e, ha i a n and get rid of the Bill altoeether. Lord ROLLE complained of the boundaries given to the an opinion lmd t i li f at he th st is " f RICHMOND said that the boundaries only n e u d grounds ijugto a rrta w t . e a il il a il. d ou b e. ee h n o p f r E op a o r s . e s d , , ,,l,, would e. be to prolo the Committe , The Duke o Lord answer than what had been given by the Noble Duke. t e : u g n o tr b y el m ow igh th t e kn b , ii m r, by the Noble Duke. However, he should not divide ti e House. The country would recollect why the inquiry hair l) i ' e e er n a o re p f p u:e se d d l Bart of Tavistoelc.—(A laugh.) order a t s ha r t el t d h y e Earl GREY said that it the House went to a division . he should o pp ose t h e mo ti o n, f ur this simple reason, that it would answer on'y the purpose of d;day. Lad ELLENBOROUGH called the attention of the Noble Lords opposite that in the Reform Bill the usual clause was omitted, and that much inconvenience was likely to arise from this circumstance. 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GENTLEMEN, IN consequence of the DEATH o f t h e l ate A. JOHN MILNE. Eqq., a Vacancy bas occurred in the Office of CORONER tor the MANCHESTER DI VISION of this County. In presuming to offer myself as a CANDIDATE to succeed him, I feel deeply sen sible of the impor ance of the office, and it is incumbent upon me to submit to you with much deference the_pre tensions on which that offer is founded. I have been in the procession of the Law for twenty four years, and for the last nineteen I have acted as the confidential Assistant of Mr. Oswald Milne, the clerk to the Magistrates of this division. This practice has afforded the abundant opportunities for an intimate acquaintance with the Criminal Law, and my s tudies have been peculi arly directed to that branch of the profession. As the recent Division of Ahe House of Commons, re specting Close Courts, Gas set that question at rest, I need not advert to the subject, any more than to say that if such decision had not trken place, my opinion that a Co roner's Court should be a perfectly open one, would be in accordance with the genera' wishes of the freeholders. Permit me also to observe, that in offering myself to the Freeholder s, I have the sanction of the immediate connexions of the late Coroner, and especially that of his Brother, Mr. Oswald Milne; and if I should be honoured with the appointment, I shall endeavour to execute its du ties With diligence, integrity, and fidelity. I have the honour to be Your most faithful and obedient Servant, WM. SMALLEY RUTTER. Manchester, June 30, 1b32. Mr. Rutter's Committees, to whom all communications may he addressed, at each of the undermentioned places:•—• Preston—Mr. Riley, solicitor, Ormskirk—Mr. Waring. soli -42., Cannon-street citor. Manchester—Hayward's Hotel. Wigan—Mr. Thos. Morris, soli- Warrington —.Messrs. Fitcheti citor. and Wagstaff, solicitors. Chowbent—Mr. Buchanan, soli- Lancaster—ltichcf. Wilson, Esc, citor. solicitor. Chorley—Mr.Topping, solicitor. Blackburn—Messrs. Nevilleaud Ashton-under.Line-Mr.Brooke Eccles. solicitor. Bolton—Mr. Woodhouse, soli- Rochdale—Messrs.Lee& Taylor citor. ildham—Messrs. Whitehead & Bury—Mr. Norris, solicitor. Barlow, solicitors. TO THE FtiEEHOLDEtth OF THE COUNTY PALATINE OF LANCASTER. MT LORDS AND GENTLESIENT ---- Ibeg leave to express my warmest thanks for the very many promises of support I have received in my CANVASS fur the SITUATION of CORONER now vacant, and particularly to those Friends who have kindly come forward to assist me in my Canvass. lam happy to say that the very flattering reception I have ex perienced on this occasion, induces me confidently to anti cipate my ultimate success. As it will be impossible for me in the short time pre vious to the election to have the pleasure of personal* stating, f waiting uponth that i e f a I h which h rit m y officeof Coroner for the Manchester division pointed to the of the County, it will be my earnest endeavour to execute shouldFre e h oL :er, have, t h t e a ke this honouropportunity o t b en.g ap.o the duties of the office with impartiality,. diligence, and . atte l r t s h e a r s e ainhqvuayirsedbeiei.intomyso".nninpioonrttahnatttao Cthoeulritvesin and liberties of the community, as in that of a Coroner, should be open to all persons, in order to insure that due ,st,vval course otntAtrhi ,ytnty: :hot o d?h flteinojer influence, finr adhere becomingetaetei nor c c e eost w : ofti zho h . tera, i h c d el tohmaa dutiesn% avi profit cloneroaou flfi, ti inquiry has a tendency to prevent. Therefore were the probability of a legislative t e enactment c oncerning the admission 01 all persons on such occasions now remote,. it would still have been my wish, and of course will be my practice, should I be intrusted l tri p i,eei a sib r el la t r, i trv e 4 eed s . dndbyeysrsi refusal s r furp o ,ois u tsii s oilean o ul t f etowin li hani i cins n ctt g mhei nre p fEie r t a e-• rti iwnt at inquests, but with the probability of this right I do not think it necessary to say more on this point. u not hitherto been universally observed, I shall most cep. toted on matters brought h,fore by, as Coroner. A con trary course might have a tendency to bias my naiad, for no man can act al ogether impartially as a judge in a case which he knows that afterwards he may be employed as aa advoc a t e . Again I beg leave most respectfully to testify the grafi tade I f e el f or y our fl a tt e ring support, and to assure you that if, by your kindness, 1 should be elected one of the Coroners of the County, it will be my study and deteei• nation, as far as lies in my power, fully and effectually to, perform the duties of the situation. I have the honour to be, my Lords and Gentlemen, Your most obedient humble Servant, T. W. WINSTANLEY. :20, Brown-street, Manchester, July 2, 1832. Tne Committee appointed to conduct Air. Winstanky r o ELetion, meet each day at Nu. 20, Brown-street, Mao" h,ster ; and at Messrs. Winstanley and Caterers Office , Foc-street, Preston, where all communications are re quested to be forwarded,