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. • ,A 0 /1 that bell uses - 1.! ; .. h e ir SO' 7 0 01 to rial s the ;dal e a t ues". /• ;agt`' ~. in ehe Esq'' rig, Of h, pee °: iovirg7 r7-/-at 7" NUAIBER 9275.] THE PIT f CLUB. Chair. (the }g h• n iog ex wai hao ils iOs 34' nee' s ' at tain. a shxP s4o 4 ' THE ANNIVERSARY of the BIKTII of the late Right Hon. WILLIAM PITT syill be cele biated qt the CI of LONDON TAVERN, BISHOPS• G ATE-STREET, on TUESDAY, the 28th Instant. WILLIAM -- RALPH CAR.TWRIGHT, Esq.- M.P. -in the Tickets, not transferable, price 11. I Is. 6d. may be bad on application to the Committee, at the above Tavern,. oil Fri day, Saturday, and Monday, the 24th, 25th, and 27th, be tweenthe hours of Eleven and Four. - ROYAL ACADEMY, SOMERSET-PLACE. THE EXHIBITION of the ROYAL ACA DEMY IS NOW brO, Admission (from Eight o'Clock till Seven) One' Shilling. Catalogue One Shilling. . R. HOWARD, R.A. Sec ROYAL SOCIETY OF MUSICIANS _ OF GREAT BRlTAlN—lnstituted in‘l73B. PATRON,. HIS MOST EXCELLENT MAJESTY THE .NG. ,' His Royal Highness PRINCE LEOPOLD of SAXE COBOURG. - HONORARY PRESIDENT, • His Regal 'Highness the DUKE of CUMBERLAND.. ' R. HONORARY VICE-PRESIDENTS; R His R. H. the Duke of CAM.: Earl of DERBY, BRIDGE, Earl FORTESCUE, His Grace -the Archbishop of Earl of DARNLEY. YORK, - THE ANNIVERSARY DINNER or this -.. SOCIETY will take place at the ARGYLL ROOMS, ° 4 SATURDAY, the 25th of MAY, 1822, Whitsun Eve ; then Compositions of the most celebrated, Authors, both vocal and. Instrumental, will be performed. President of the Day, the Right HOn2Earl FORTESCUE. ' HONORARY 'STEW RM.: . • The Grace the Duke of Argyll J. P. Hu phreys, Esq. v i e Earl of Blesinton . Charles Word; Esq.: seount Bury J. W. Horsley, Esq. • ,Right. Hon. Lord Burghersh - Rev.' Mr. Johnson' - - ` 4 O, I'd Harley Charles Kerr, Esq. .Lion b. • ------- Fortescue C. Kelson, Esq: VII. Rev , Fitzroy Stanhope . W. Leader, Esq., . - "Wit Hon. G. Warrender, W. Linley, Esq. ~taa'rt . ' , W. 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No Tickets will be issued after Wednesday, May 22. Dinner.,,, at Five fOr Six precisely.—The Wines will be fur- Z.tied by bk. Kay, of the Albion.—No Collection after Dinner. • To T. TAYLOR, Esq. , • No. 9 3 New Bridge street, London. ,flostouttuti Sin, , B EG leave to inform you, that ever since the Year 1790, I had been afflicted with the Lues Venereal, ftOm its obstinately resisting every course of medicine e 'cribed by the most eminent of the faculty here, and un 4Fgning severalsevere courses of salivation, and twice dis arged from the Hospital with little relief, would appear to lu e the most inveterate nature. In tLc spring of last year Y uisorder had got to inch a head, as nearly to put a period ") existence—l had a large ulcer on the crown of my head, en each arm, and my legs were broke out in a frightful w ie ner ; right was dreadfully painful, and had been in a I t ta tef ulceration for the last seven years; My left had also _l 4O large nodes on it, was very much discoloured, and gave ! such excruciating pain, particularly when warm in bed, nearly to 'deprive me of rest; in this lamentable state; I was recommended by Mr. J. Thompson, (who received so r eal a cu re b y t h em h er e), t o ta k e vour L ea k e ' s P atent Pill s, nich I - began to do on the with o. May ; in the course of a ght 1 began to receive benetit—in little more - than a Inonth the ulcers on my headand anus were soundly healed -40141 atter the sores on my legs healed also leaving, how boneibl discolouration in the skin, and pain in the ,_ of the left, which, by the blessing of God, awl a little the perseverance in yOur invaluable Medicine, subsided th : nodes dispersing, the skin regaining its natural hue, and Racturnal pains gradually going off.—l thus because, by i o ' r ur liberal advice and medicine, perfectly free from all my ttr lner complaints—have recovered my former spirits a nod g_aud am become jolly and fat, In which state having 47:Untied many months, to the astonishment of all who knew b , I am at a loss in what terms to express my gratitude; but 0 11, for the gOod of other suffering mortals, to make Jaq case as' public as possihle, as I shall on every occa "i; in so doing you will gr ea tly oblige, SU', your grateful, obedient, very humble servant, - ALEX. MUItKER s Close, High-street, Edinburgh. - 4yu_" •Witnesses t o th e a b ove C ure: — " ll'wspson, No. 3, New Poultry Market, Edinburgh, - /An Mqqtosh, Olel Assembly Close, Edinburgh. 16:,e?,ared and sold by the sole Proprietor, THOMAS TAY- Aember of the Royal Collee of Surgeons, at his torsi' N . 9, New. l3rid •London; wheie, after i rr'tbt.- street, jcsidc;tice of more than 40 years,in a practice parti itij)ltliyected to th e cure of Venereal Complaints and those 4, c :7 , .to . the Parts of Generation, with that inviolable surn.of his profession should always observe in s, he Batters himself the advice d assistance he b e t's‘Tootly administers to persons taking this Medicine, will att a i i . l4 - 4 T e ed ? by . a discerning Public, as au advat.tage seldom is _ _ and tout of all ambiguity. Ii vin : s. 1 o d, by his tor the convenience of those g p ltsbtrdoisiutance, at the Toys Lop, No. 103,'Oxford-street; c,ricjet/tk"liridge,gEulinbtr'.gl7l ; blip Band Dublin of Ir P et 'un in ever • 3 we . It ' cum - ado - able town in Great Britain and _ 13 ,_,1 • 11 ridges onl "." z . Y s• 9d. each, stamped, and sealed up lex _ain directions, whereby persons, of either 'Waist:lves .fith eaze t d,sccrecy, and safety. • • lit / 1 7 7 /Li/t HORTICULTURAL. SOCIETY. rirlHE . .ANNIVERSARY DINNER 'of the ,SOCIETY will he: held at the FREEMASON'S T.‘‘ VERN, GREAT QUEEN-STREET, on TUESDAY, the 4th of June. Tickets, Li each, tohy be had of the Assistant Secretary, at the Huuse o( the Society, 23, Regent- street. Fellows ofthe Society intending to Dine, are requested to signify their intention to the Assistant Secretary, on or be fore Saturday, the Ist of June. SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING THE ENLARGEMENT .AND BUILDING OF CHURCHES AND CHAPELS. rillHE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING IL of this SOCIETY will 7 be held at their ROOMS, No. 33, Lincoln's Inn Fields, by adjanrnment, from the Third Thurs day in May (being Ascension Day); to MONDAY, the 20th instant.:—His Grace, the Archbishop of CANTERBURY, will take the Chair at Twelve o'Clock precisely. - . W. JOHNSON RODBER, : . 32, LincOln's Inn Fields, Sub-Secretary. May . 9, 1822. _" REGENT'S CANAL:. 1 OTICE is. hereby , given; Th a t th e HALF YEARLY GENERAL ASSEMBLY of the COMPANY of 'PROPRIETORS of the REGENT'S CANAL, will be holden at the FREEMASON'S TAVERN, in the Parish of Saint Giles'-in-the-Fields, in the County of Middlesex, on WEDNESDAY, the sth day of June, 1822. The Chair will he taken at Two o'Clock precisely. JAMES W. LYON, Clerk to the-Company. PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY, MAY 16. Sir J. 'YORKE prosented a Petition from the Company of Proprietors of Waterloo Bridge, praying that the Bill for amending the Lambeth. road should not be enacted as it then stood. Referred to the. Committee on'the Lambeth Bill, with liberty to be heard by their Counsel or Agents. • - ' ' Lord 'BINNING presented a - Petition from Subscribers to the Scotch National Monument, praying leave to bring in a Bill to authorlse ita incorporation.—Read, and ordered to lie on the table. Lord SANDON presented a Petition from the Tanners of Tiverton,.praying for the repeal , of the Leather Tax. Mr. BRANDLING presented a Petition from cert s ain In habitants of the County of Northumberland, praying for a mo dification- of the Criminal Code. Colonel BAG WELL presented a Petition from the Grand Jury . of Tipperary, complaining of Agricultural Distress, and praying for additional duties upon the importation of foreign butter. • 111 r. CHALDNErt .presente4 a Petition from .certain Tan ners in the City of York. Mr. T. WILSON presented a Petition froth certain Currlers of the Cities of London and Westminster, against the Repeal of the Leather Tax. ' Sir C. COLE Preiented a Petition from the High Sheriff and Grand .Jury of the County of Glamorgan, praying that the present system of Welsh Judicature might be abolished, and that the English system might be substituted in its room. Ml': ALLEN 'postponed his Motion on the subject of Welsh' Judicature till the 23d inst. The Public-house Licenses Bill was brought in by Mr, IL CI:BENNET, and read a first time, and ordcre'd to be read a second time on Monday. Lord E. SOMERSET presented a Petition from certain. O%Vners and Occupiers of Land in the nerghbOurhood of Stow in-the-Wold, in the county of Gloucester, praying that the protecting duties against the importation . of Foreign Corn might not be lowered. - Sir W. CUNNINGHAM FAIRLIE moved far, and ob tained,*leave to bring in a Bill to amend statute 10 of George 111., cap. 51, for the Improvement of Lands in Scotland, held under, strict entail. General GASCOYNE . presented a Petition from the Ship OWners of Liverpool; against the Navigation Bill. Mr. LEGIT KECK presented a Petition from a parish in the town of Leicester against the Roman Catholic Peers' Bill. CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. Mr. It. MARTIN presented a Petition from the Inhabitants of Camberwell, praying that the House would adopt some mea sure for protecting brute animals from the cruelties to, which they were often subjected. The Hon. Member said he could horrify the ears of. the House if he were to mention some of the instances of cruelty towards animals which had come to his knowledge. There was a place in this city called the " West; minster Pit," which was appropriated to the exhibition of com bats between different animals. Round this_ pit were congre grated a set of the greatest vagrants that ever existed. He had heard it remarked, that Parliament ought not to interfere with the amusements of the lower orders; but he denied that the popu lace assembled in any considerable numbers round the " West minster Pit;" it was attended only by the lowest miscreants. Printed. bills of the amusements of the Pit" were distributed, and tickets of admission were sold. One of the printed bills ran as follows :—" Jacco lifaccacco, the celebrated monkey; will this day fight Tom Crib's white bitch Puss.—(A laugh.)— Jaceo has fought many battles with some of the first dogs of the day, andhas beat them all, and he herebi - offers to fight any dog in England of double his own weight."—(A laugh.)— The battle advertised in this bill took place, and after having continued for upwards of half an hour, it terminated by Puss tearing away the whole of the under jaw of Jacco, who, on his part, lacerated the windpipe and the (n•teria carotin of Puss.—(A laugh.)—ln this state the animals lived for two hours, and then they died.—(A_ laugh.)—He would be the last man living to interfere with what might properly be called the amusements of the people, but scenes such as he had described could afford pleasure only to the lowest and the vilest of mankind.-:-(Hear.)—He once went to see the "Pit," and there he saw one of the miscreants, a woman, who belonged to it, who had just returned from the hospital, where she had been confined for six months, on account of a wound which she had received frOm a bear ; for an animal of that kind was kept at the " Pit," besides 50 or 60 badgers.—(A The way in which the woman received her wound was this : she was passing the bear one day, when the animal gave her a claw and completely scalped her. He believed that the amuse ments of the "Pit" came under the equity of existing statutes. They would be unlawful if it could be proved that money was paid for admission, but that was difficult to do. lie hoped that his Hon. Friend, who had introduced a Bill for regulating the Police of the Metropolis, would brin g th e " Pit" within the purview of that measure. Mr. LOCKHART spoke against treating animals with cruelty. Though the brute creation was subjected to the domi nion of men, it was never intended that they should be sub jected to torture. He was therefore disposed to favour the Pe tition, and also the Bill of the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. GURNEY reorobated (as was understood) the transac tions which took place at the " Westminster Pit." He , Was opposed to interfering with the amusements of the lower or ders, but he did not believe that the scenes which took place at the " Pit" were exclusively patronized by the lower orders. The Honourable Membei for Galway had said that he had vi. sited the " Pit," and he might, perhaps, tell the House how rimy Members of Parliament he saw there. Sii C. BURRELL was willing to punish unnecessary cruelty, but he doubted whether the Bill of the Hon. Metaber was necessary. -- - - - - _ Colona BAGWELL hoped the Hon?' Member (Mt. Gur.. ney) did not mean to impute any blame to the Member for Gal way for going to the " Pit," after he had stated what his object was for going there. Mr. R. MARTIN said he should not like to be present at any of the combats which took place at the " Pit.' He went there on a Sunday ; but he saw the animals which were des tined to take part in the conflicts. Mr. SYKES presented a Petition from the Guardians of the Poor of Kingston-upon-Hull against the Poor Removal Bill. Mr. 000 CH presented a Petition from certain tanners of Bury, praying that the whole of the duty on leather might not be repealed, but only that . part which'had been recently imposed. Mr. COKE presented a petition from certain owners and oc. V\\\\lll -,,-N V P ' - ~, ,A, Vt.•:- -I'T---' • 41,,M Cli ___-.--' _,-->-_,,-- . /., claiiM • „.. 7 { 4 ,,, iv //2 AAJ. FRIDAY, MAY 17, 1822 cupiers of land in Norfolk, complaining of distress, and pray ing for economy, retrenchment, and reform. The Seditious Meetings' amendment Bill was read a third time, and passed. CATHOLIC PEERS. Mr. LUBIIIISIGTON presented a Petition from the Mayor and Burgesses of Canterbury against the Roman Catholic . Peers' Bill. . • After' a few words from . Lord CLIFDEN, the Petition was read, and ordered to be printed. VAGRANT LAWS AMENDMENT BILL. - • Mr. CLIETWYND moved that the Vagrant Laws Amend ment Bill should be recommitted. • - The House went into a Committee on the Bill, in which the Hen. Member stated tle clauses which were considered objec tionable to have been omitted. . The clauses were then severally read. A clause respectifig tie specification of Gipsies, or persons repres'enting themselves to be • such, occasioned a conversation of some length, and tie gallery v.:as ordered. to be 'cleared ; but ultimately,.the clause Was agreed.to without a division. The House• haVing itsunietl, the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. lONIAN ISLANDS. . Sir WILSON - wighet to put a question to the Honour able Colonial.„Secretary,,,A.answer to which would probably save .the House a great deal of trouble o n a future occasion. The Hon—Member fOr 'Montrose, in the late debate, on the lonian NandS, had stated that a Petition, framed in tonfor mity with the 7th article of the charter; had been seized in the , progress of signature, and the parties who had gubscribed to it arrested. The 1-lon. Secr4tary had contended tharthe Petition qould not fairly. be called constitutional, but that it was of a seditious and rebellious character, and that' the Hon:Member' for Montrose, in reading it, had omitted 'some *objectionable ex pressions. A eopyofAhat Petition had been placed in his (Sir R. Wilson's) hands, and he could not help hoping that it was authentic : - .he wished, therefore, to ask whether the Honoura ble Secretary would lay upon the. table a. copy of the original Petition, with the.statement of, the Magistrate, Signor Rossi.' He' (Sir It Wilson) also wished to know, whether the indiVi ditals arrested were now in prison, and whether such as histi , , ed escap migh t return to their country ? •• • • Mr. WI MOT'lelt it his duty to object to the production' of the Petitionomless it were accompanied by various explana tory documents... He was understood to add, that on a future day he would movefor copies of the whole: • Ile was not aware that any person had. been prevented from returning :to the .lonian Islands. Lord J. - RUSSELL inquired if there would be any objec tion to 'laying before.the /louse such Proelamations of Sir T. Maitland as related to the neutrality to be observed in the con test between the 'Turks and Greeks. , The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that some of them were matters of notoriety, and in that way might be referred to, if necessary, in debate ; but he should object to the production of any document that would open the general question of the negotiations now-going forward betwe e n T ur k e y an d R uss i a . Lord JOHN RUSSELL added, that he had no_ such inten tion, and with the consent of the Marquis of Londonderry, he moved for copies-of any Proclamations by Sir T. Maitland re lative to , the contest at present- subsisting between the Turks and Greeks.—Orilered. • • • Mr. MAXWELL said, that he had reason to believe that Sir I'. Maitland was personally hated and detested in-the lonian Islands. He should be glad to know if to this, or to any other cause, was to be attributed the prevailing 'spirit of discontent there ? The Marquis - of LONDONDERRY entertained a very dif ferent impression regarding the'sentiments of the is4nders to— wards the: Lord High CornmissiOnee. In his important station he,had conducted himself in a manner tiuite consistent with his public character. Mr. MAXWELL had noticed the subject, becausiwitii great pain he had heard that because Sir T. Maitland was con nected" with the Opposition itwas supposed in the lonian Islands that justice could not be obtained. He'believed this notion to be wholly unfounded. Sir I. COFFIN had never heard that the Lord High Com missioner was hated or detested by any body. . . • Mr. HUME, in reference to the proceedings of Sir T.-Mait land relative to the export of artris fiorn . the lonian Islantli, wished to learn what orders the Government of. this country had given upon the subject, in order that merchants might be able to regulate their conduct accordingly ? Mr. WILMOT repeated what he had stated on a former day, that merchants would be allowed to complete adventures undertaken before knowledge was obtained of the proclama tion of Sir Thomas Maitland. - Mr. HUME:observed, that the King in Council .had not prohibited the export of arms , &c. for the 'Creeks, and he knew not on what authority Sir . Maitland, took 'upon himself to do so. - . Mr. WILMOT answered, that that was an .exeCutiire act on the. part of the Lord High Commissioner, which must stafld or. fag by its own merits. WEST INDIA INTERCOURSE.- • Mr. ELLIS begged to be informed, whether the President of the Board of Trade intended to-morrow .to bring on the dis:. cussion of the West India and. American . Inteicourse . Bill? Mr. F. ROBINSON replied in the affirmative: it was his most anxious wish and intention, and he did not apprehend that the discussion wouil be long. AMERICAN BOUNDARIEg. Mr. HUME asked when the Commissioners on the boun daries between the United States and the British North Arnerican Colonies would conclude their duties? Mr. WILMOT said, that the functions for which the Com.: missioners wereappointed were not yet completed. The 4th r and '6th articles under the treaty of Ghent were definitively settled, and the sth depended upon some matters of science, which, if stated, many. Hon. Gentlemen 'would not understand; It shared in their ignorance. It regarded the boundary on the north-west side of New Brunswick. The Commissioners were, using every possible, expedition, and their slowness arose from the extreme difficulty of the undertaking. The 7th article only now remained to be arranged. RUSSIAN 'TARIFF. Mr. SYKES wished to put a question to the Noble Lord as to whether the Russian Tariff, which had lately been published, was officially communicated to the Government. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY did not know to which copy the Hon. Member alluded; There was one about which a question was asked him befor e , when he stated his belief that it was not correct. A Tariff since that period had been au thentically communicated to the Government. AGRICULTURAL, DISTRESS. Mr. CU,RTEIS presented a 'Petition from the Select Vestry and Occupiers of Land in the Parish of Mayfield, complaining of Agricultural Distress. The lion. Member commented upon the subject of the Petition, and said that no relief could be ex pected from the measures new before the House. There were two parties in 'that House, and they had both deserted the in terests of Agriculture. The Ministers, and those who sup perted the Ministers, were ready to sacrifice the_ landed inte rests to political economy, manufactures, and commerce; anti the Opposition would sacrifice them to popularity, with the. ,cry of cheap bread and low prices. He hoped that country Gentlemen would unite, and form a party to protect their own interests. Mr. J. SHELLEY was sorry to be obliged to confirm the complaints of the Petitioners. He thought there were no other immediate means of affording 'relief than A 'reduction of the Salt Tax and the Leather Tax. Mr. JENKINSON attributed the distress of the Petitioners to the mat-administration of the Poor Laws. He thought this, was the grand evil that produced all the difficulties of the coun_ try, and he hoped the House would- meet it openly, for they must do so sooner or later. Mr. LOCKHART contended that the system of the Poor Laws must be revised.. The present distress must have a re medy, or the consequences must be dreadful. The existing suffering was but a spasm of a body just beginning to strew the incipient symptoms of a disease which must end in its dis solution amidst the most agonizing convulsions. Mr. C. lIUTCHINSON explained some remarks that had fallen from him upon a former occasion. No man was more ready than he to sympathise 'with the distress of the English farmer, and no man would go greater lengths to afford him re- . lief. But what he deprecated was, the mixing up relief to England, when the miseries and the sufferings of Ireland was the question before the House. When the Hon. Member who presented the Petition talked of the sufferings of England, he had no conception of those with which Ireland was • afflicted ; and when he compared them together, he compared two things that were totally dissimilar. If the Hon. Gentleman's consti tuenti suffered what the peasants of the South and West of Vi t lV T t f l • .. , f • , 4 ..• ...Ita.. 0 Ireland did, eyen'in a time of tileir pros - perity, he was con. vinced that not all the force of England woad keep the - in quiet After a few Words from Mr. Culla - Els - the Petition was or. dered to be printed: ABSENTEES ' Sir T.•LETHBRIDGE then rose to present a Petition, of which he had giVen notice,. fYoth the county of Sornerset,signed by about 600 'persons roiding in the neighbourhood of Rath. The subject of the - Petition' had exciteda great deal of atten _ don hr that quarter, and he was anxious to press it upon the attention of his Majesty's Ministers. He did not expc..at that ; the Petition woirld-ecite the displeasure of the Chancellor. of : the Exenequer, for it praya - for.sOnfe. additiOnal taxes. . The: Petitioners 'Were ppeersons w 10. had' deeply participated in, the distress . whiCh affected...the . s:ountry,„,and they looked to the matter of which they now cOin_plained as one of.the colla teral causes of that distress. The tax :which they prayed for was one . upon Absentees... They stat e d *that Many persons of high rank and fOl-tune, had 'gone to the Continent. to take up their residence. In 'Paris - they calculated. that there were now, ten thousand familiess - froin the different 'parts of Eng land.- These they supposed •.t0 consist, upon an' average, of five individuals, each - of 'whom' Woultrexpend, one guinea _per' day, 'that was 50,000 guineaS itAay, for. the whole 350,000 guineas a-week, and 18,200,00 Q gtineaK in a year. This was only. in Paris ; and the other towns of F ranee-and' the-Conti nent were tilled inn similar proportion.: ir'Brasselt, they had the testithony. of the Noble Marquis, in that able.and enlight • ened.speech which .he delivered last night,: that the English were. so numerous as to give tli6 appearance of an English_ population to tkestreet . And thiS was urged as, a reason for 'our high, expenditure for Foreign7Ainlia.ssadorsi 'The Peti tioners alsd complained of the practiee of sending the youth of both sexes to the:Carithient Tor • their,' education; thereby in juring our nationak,seminariei, destrOying..'the • national dm ratter, and, as in •one . recent trtd.lainerttable instanee;under ' mining the faith of the' Established Religion of-the country.— They prayed . .. that 'the Rolise :weilathe. pleased to' lay a tax upon the property or itieinue Of : all,abS'entee,..to'such an extent as shall make theth fully. Share the, taxation. . and - burthens, of the country. They". also prayed igtAlfe.l-Iouse, would prevent the payment of sifii.tbe:,..aincty and. , navy, , pen sioners, or annuitants, .white...llhey out of the country. —He was aware that there W45-'4.kinus,...for. going to , 01 , * countries in • the - :CheartheSs :the , difference-of the ExchangesW4S . 25 or 4.0 ..-PVT;4iit:: in•their favOut.-.1.1 7 (N0-; no.). • He believed it wak'nearly as 41 : )ite,.tlpt;—(No. But for his Own.' part he ikbqkv.r.aufeelikuxihmeountry with 501. a yc. - -ar than in any:other With a;thu.-04 . arger,incothe... He M hoped, that his, ajatY"S...iniste-i:wiitill,l : i tirtn their. attepti:# • to this subject, and' he was - sure th/if v ucitax . -cOnld-lie lar at this, fiecattsb . • it would press . O_pon the ,rich:afone.:. -The distresSrof the Petitioners ,they believed- to -.be increased .try this cauie, and he WaS';'.stirry l 'iliarruithing had yet been - dOneito afford - relief. Ire 'woiild,rat'berieve ;Chat' there w-.:re:no-means of affordil s it; but he was. sire '.'Ministers had not given: their minds ; properlyto . the . sulißct. If: some;hing` were not done, it was impossible to caktirate - . what consequences might ensue. • • Mr.. RICARDO glijected to, -the . p r V•er''of the Petitioners,.: He would first set the Ifori.:Bargiiit: it as-to the exchanges. - (Hear 'far. from there beiitg a .di. erpnce.. of 20 per_ cent; they were'. nearly - at lA.; Indeed they must be. * as- we.. were now returned to a ffetallic currency, for witkrthat.-.ithe' ex- Changes could . never vary beyond ,a very trifling. difference Ile shonld be extremely sorry - if the' prayer of.this- Petition were ever to be'granted: "Brit what surprised that the Hon., Baoiriet.slre4rld support such a.propesition; and at the same time Supkort_a SySterra of legiSlature,,wlrich.offered the greatest - popible teniptationS for people goingabroad. - The system • advocated - 4 :the Ilori. Baronet was that of making the necessaries of life and the price of labour so excessively dear, - as to drive people tO . countries, where they could• beobeamed cheaper. Besides, the .COrii . la‘vs;there . was .another.hranch of - our policy which' assisted us prOdneing the evil;-complained of by, the Petitioners. lie 'Was COnvin cecf tllat this might be the uheapest country of all others to live in; and ihAt the cajii, 7tal of the whole World would .flow.rntO it, .irAtoad of 'our.gorng nut, if we acted upon" sound: Principles of legislati on . In ad dition to the system of our Corn Laws, he meant the System of Loans, and the enormous national .deli We-had, accumulated. He might be accused of 'wild'el i teories, but he .saw no reason why the national debt might.not "begot .rid,-of by-a fair Con tribution of the property of the country..-(Hearr)He meant from the funded interests ; , as well as all others.--,(Hear, hear.) If this'svere dOne, he . was."peisuaded the country would rise to a state of - prosperity far beyOnd'What their iMaginations could conceive.lear,, hear? Mr. DENNIS 'BROWN concurred in the. prayer of the' Petition. He thouglit'abqentee'S were the chief cause of the present mischiefs in Irelarid.'; : and it was not • the least of the hardship, that the weight of the taxes fell upon residents, and • that the exemptions were generally in favour of absentees.. He called upon those whose duty,it was to watch over the in terests of .the emPire,to.biidiforward some spemfic measure on the subject. Mr. H. GURNEY said, .he thought the - Chancellor of the • ExchegPer would find - it, difficult to assess the Tax proposed by the Hon: Baronet.--I.(A (Mr. G.) thought there should be general freed*. of ,egress and regress for all his . Ma jesty's subjects, ,withoitt.diitinetion ; and - especially he• con, skinned any distinction wh - Ali gave a preference to the rich over the poor.—(Hear, hear !)-Ile .Made this observarion.in - conse:- .qUence of several labouring artisans having been recently -ap .prehentled at DoVer, brought up to Bow-street, and committed 0. - prison for want:of bail, merely because they wished to go to Paris, and settle idihe way of business.'. He thought thelaw in this case was extremely hard, and he trusted .it would be. al-. ",tered. It would be easily inferred that he did not approve of the suggeStiOn of', the. Hon; Baronet, and that he thought there. ,should be no yeat*tian whatever. • Tar. picAiNsoN.thou g ht emigration ought to. be discou ra'ged. History had'ilieyni the mischief, which emigrants oc casioned the country they left. The GIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he should not have addressed thellefuse on the present occasion, did he not fear that the total, silence of Ministers on the subject would lead to a belief .that they diiregarded the complaints alluded to by the Petition. There was, however, considerable• diffi -culty in the Way- of carrying the suggestion of the lion. Ba ronet into effect; indeed, he trusted the Hon, Baronet would give him credit fOr having exerted himself as much as possible in the way of taxation.—(A laugh.)—He had always thought that a tax upon Absentees would be a very popular tax ; but he _never could think of one which was unobjectionable, and at the same time practicable. 'With respect to the observations of a Rt. Hon. Meniber (Mr, D. Brown) as to Irish obsentees, he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman must be mistaken with regard the operation of the law, as the taxes paid in this country were heavier in proportion than those paid in Ireland. Upon the subject :generally of loss of taxes by absentees, he had di rected calculations to be made as accurately as possible upon. Returns from the several Tax Offices ; and, the result satisfied , him that the loss of taxes from absentees was not more than , 11,0001. a year. Absentees in foreign countries might in general' be divided into two classes. The first was composed of those who travelled for:,amusem.ent, and most:of them returned in a 'short time, haVing kept on their establishments in their absence; these, of course, paid taxes, and the loss from them was little' or nothing. The second class might be formed of those who lived abroad for purposes of economy and for the arrangement of their alfairs. In this class were many noble and respectable in- dividuals, and it Was from the absence of them that the loss was principally occasioned. But he Would put it to the House whether it would not be most harsh, 'as well as,impolitic, to' pass any measure seeking. to compel them to return to this country, in which - they had already found it inconvenient to' live.--(Hear, hear !)—Addressing himself to the observation of an lion. Member (Mr. W. Gurney) respecting the Law af fecting Artisans, he had no hesitation in giving it as his opinion that the industry of English mechanics ought rick to be locked up. - -(Hear, hear !)—As to those who resided abroad with a view M economy, he thought that the best way to bring them back was to induce, rather than to compel . ; and that the in ducement would be, the making of the country comfortable and inviting—(Cheers.)— , Upon general grounds he was perfectly satisfied that England, as a ialace‘ of residence, would always he preferred; and-that when prices became equalized, the absentees would return with increased regard, for the institu tions and the comforts of their own country. Sir ISAAC COFFIN said he was convinced that every. Half-pay Officer who lived abroad was induced to do so by poverty rather than inclination. W. SMITH said, that after the avowal which the Right Honourable Gentleman had made of his opiaion - respeetingthe law which restrained artisans from • leaving the country, lie trusted that that Right Honourable Gentleman would bring in a Bill to remove those tyrannous restrictions. It was Fnagt ty rannical, when a poor man attempted to escape from poverty, to seize and throw hith' into a prison, while a rich man was al. PRICE SEVEN PENCt .. • lowed t 6 go where .he . pleased. The'law• - itself; indeed, qvas absurd ;•forit could notprevent..any Man who pessesseticapi tat going to a foreign country,-.and. rivalling our .manufacturet. He perfectly agreed with the Chancellor of the Exchegder, , that England "votild'be preferred_ as a place of residence, and_ that the way to invite-the preference would. bato . reduce priees:. lii this fespect he fully concurred in the , views of his Hop-Friend the Member for Portarlington. • - . • e Mr.' BROWN explained; and the, Petition was then brought Up;- read, and ordeied to lie on the table; and be. , printed. • EMBASSY TO THE SWISS CANTONS.. • . Mr. WARRE rose to-bring for War- the motion of which he • • had given notice,'relative to the Einbasay to the Swiss Cantons. The. Honourable Member 'adareseit the Roil - Se in so lowa tone • of voice, that his observatidns'Wer e f requen tly' very indistinctlyy' heard in the gallery. He began by stating that he shonld . at all times feel it necessary to offer some apology to the House fin obtruding himself on their attention, more particularlY when he • rose to bring forward a subject which hid alieady-undergofte considerablediscussion. He could assure the Ilausee hoWevei, that in return for the ; favour of theirattentiose, he Would confine hirriSelf strictly to the subject of his Motion, withoUt going into the. consideration of the general queStion, which was dis cussed last night.. But though it was his intention to compress his observations wit& as short a limit as possible,he at the same time felt .it to bethe duty of every individual Member who -- brought any question under the consideration of the House, to 'state clearly and - distinctly, to the best ()This ability, the reasons upon which Isis motion wastfounded. The object at which he • aimed was a reduction of the expence of our Embassies. The tecessity of h reduction of the public expenditure in every branch which 'admitted of reduction was.a point So generally conceded; .that he did not think it necessary to maka n atny observations - on that part of the subject. In proceeding then directly to the sub ject of his motion, hesbegged leave shortly.to call the attention of the House to the documents which had been laid upon their table by the. Noble Marquis (Londonderry) as well as those for -which-he (Mr. W.) had moved, which formed an histOrical narra • five of the missions to the Swiss Cantons. By the return which had been laid on the table by the .Noble Marquis, it appeared that from the year 1750. to 1783,, four Ministers had been. sent to the Swiss , Cantons at a salary of 1,5721. Fror k i the year 1783 td 1792, an individual mince' Braun; who- had been 'ended to last night,'diseloarged the functions. of Charge d'Af: Mires in the Swiss Cantonsfor a salary of 2501.. Whether, in the reductions which were made in 1786, Mr. Pitt - bore in blind, what had takenplace at Paris three years before, h e could • nOt pretend to say, but he could assure the Noble Marquis, . :that if-he tqok the liberty of alluding to the salary of the Ame s rrean Ambassador, it was,neither with the design of subverting the Mona; chy, nor from any desire to wage war upon the Consti- - .tution. If the general sort of charge which had been thrown out: by'the Noble Marquis meant any thing, it would operate as a Seto against. ever naming the, salaries of 'Ameriian Ambassa dors, lest the parallel should have the effect of overturning the existing institutions of Great Britain: He would venture then to Suggest, the possibility,, that when Mr. Pitt reduced the salary of the ltinister to the Swiss Cantons, he recollected the fact of Dr. Franklin, who hasl.been sent by the rising Republic of Arno: ties as Ambassador to the Court of Paris, and who in point of diplomatic skill completely over-matched our own Ambassador 'Lord Stormont, at a Salary of 1,0001. a year, including the ex:- Tenses of his Secretary. The Noble Marquis had become so las s • Odious' hat he could not bear to hear any allusion made to the es tablishments on the other side of the-Atlantic, but he (Mr. W.) could not see why it was not quite as justifiable to allude to the • institutions of the modern Republic of America, either for the purposes.of illustration, or with a view of holding them up to the imitation of our own country, as it was to advert to the ancient Republics of Greece. or Rome. - He now came to the period' at which the stale of expenditbre,with regard to the Swiss Missions, 'Underwent a change, namely, from 1792 to 1798. It was true that the scale adopted by Mr.- Pitt was much higher in point of salary than that received by .Mr. Braun, , but he begged the House to consider what was the state of Europe at the period • *When Mr. Wickham began to negotiate with the French Re public in the year 1796. Buonaparte was at that time victo rious un Italy, Belgium was conquered, and, in fact, Switzer land was the single isolated spot in Europe in which tee were able' to establish a mission. He begged leave to call the atten tion of the -House, to a Document which proved the importance • of this mission, arising out of the peculiar circumstances of Europe at that•period.—(Here the Hon. Member read an ex . tract from a Letter addressed by the Minister Plenipotentiary from his Britannic Majesty to the Swiss Cantons to the Mini- ' ster of the French Republic, desiring to be made acquaint ed with the disposition Saf - the French Republic 'to wards a negotiation for the general pacification of Europe.)— From die year 1799 to 1814, with the exception of a Special Mission for a short time after the Peace of Amiens, the state a • Europe .rendered it impossible for this country to send any Embassy to the Swiss Cantons. At the Peace of Amiens, Lord Liverpool, then Lord- Ilawkesbury, did send a Gentleman of the name of Moore on a sort_of Special Mission, who remained out of the-country .a few months and then rem - fried. The next pfriod was that from 1814 to 1320, when Mr. Stratford Canning was sent as Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to the Swiss Cantons. • The Noble Lord stated last night, that the object of Mr. C.'s Mission was the organization and resto ration of the Swiss territory; and he had referred to the ,Treaty on the table; of April 1815, from which it certainly appeared that a considerable degree of diplomatic business had been transacted in Switzerland. The. Declaration of the Allied Powers, in regard to the Helvetic Confederation, was made On the 20th May, 1315 on the 3d of April in the same year, the Diet of Zurich was attended by the different Ministers of the Allied Powers, among whom Mr. Canning was present on the part of this country, anti Baron Krudener, as Charge d'Affaires for' he Russian Government., The result of their deliberations was the re-incorporation of the three Cantons of Le 'Valais, Ge neva, and Neufchatel. A Protocol was also signed by the dif ferent Minister; relative to certain cessions made by the King of Sardinia to the Swiss Cantons. The object of the Allied Powers was to restore Switzerland to its former state in point of terri tory, and to guarantee its neutrality ; and he believed the tern tonal state of Switzerland was now just what it was in 1796. The argument of the Noble Marquis, therefore, for the neces sity of a Minister Plenipotentiary to"the Courts of Wurtem burgh and Bavaria, on the ground of the territory of those coun tries having increased, could not apply to Switaerland. The 'Noble Marquis had s a id th a t the House was not To estimate the necessity of a mission to any country from the quantity of direct business which might be transacted there. He (NIL W.) Pro fessed himself utterly at a loss to Conjecture the nature of the diplomatic intercourse between this country and the Swiss Can tons. If dispatched were sent there with a view of being after wards forwarded somewhere else, why, he should be glad to know, were they not sent directly to the Ministers to whom they were addressed? The avowed object of the mission in 1615 was the maintenance of the, neutrality of Switzerland. Now hew could neutrality be violated except by hostile aggression from without ? France was sufficiently disposed to violate that netts trality .41, 1 ,798, and it was possible that she might be disposed to violate it now. But it was not the resident Minister in the Swiss Cantons who could first discover-such hostile disptaitiops, and make the necessary communications to the Secretary ofState. It was the Minister of the hostile GoVernment,. who; if he had any eyes or ears, would firstbe able to observe the ineroase of military force, the disposition to infringe exiseing treaties, and ether in dications-of a hostile character, which he would of course com municate to his Government at home. There .could be no -ne- Stessity, therefore, for so expensive a mission as that.of 1815, for the mere purpose of preserving the neutrality of Switzer- • ' land. Neither he nor his Friends 'around, him cottiei ,be charged with inconsistency, on the grotiod "-of having for merly supported the establishment o f 1314 for it would he recollected that when the Noble Lord opposite brOught down an amended estimate for that establishment, the Honour able Member for Knaresborough . (Ms. Tierney) moved for a . Committee of Inquiry, and subsequently, on, the ipOtion .for bringing-up the Report, the same Honourable Meintter, made another attempt, by proposing an Amendment, to induce the House to pause before it sanctioned that establishment. It 'wag ;sometimes urged as an argument in support of diplomatic este, blishments, that it was necessary to keep them up on a scale of relative intercourse, and that if a Foreign Powerseni s an Em base,y to this country, it was necessary for us to return thecom a • pliment. Now, he entreated the House to mark hen'', imposs Bible it was to apply. this argument in the case of, Switzer/and. Let the House mark the conduct of Switzerland with, regard to her missions. Fixed Missions she had none; whatever Em. basaies she had ietit to this country had-been special. The last Mission which SWitzerland sent to.this country was,in 1815; so • that. as- soon as hes, neutrality had been guaranteed, and her thanks recorded in the f ace o f E uro p e , s h e reta il e d this special missior. If he were asked why he had not objected to the esta . - blishment of the Swiss mission in 1616.0 r 1317, he would,an swer by an obsarvation which he had:often made, and e the tniih of which he believed was undeni a ble, name l y , that that Heil a,