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STREET, BLOOMSBURY, and 9, HALF-MOON. STREET, PICCADILLY, grateful for the high and extensive patronage which has so eminently distinguished their professional exertions since their arrival in the British Metropolis, respectfully announce to their Friends and the Public in general, that they still continue to restore DE• CAYED TEETH, with their celebrated MINERAL SUCCEDANEUM, so universally recommended by the Faculty of London and Paris. The operation of Filling Teeth is performed in a few seconds, without the slightest pain, heat, or pressure. They also FASTEN LOOSE TEETH, in a manner singularly efficacious, and SUPPLY WHOLE or PARTIAL SETS of TEETH formed of the above INCORRODIBLE MINERAL, or of Natural Sub stances, without WIRE or other LlGATURES—guaran teed to answer every purpose for Articulating and Masti cating.—Charges as in Paris. The Faculty are respectfully invited to witness the suc cessful result of the Mineral Succedaneutn. and dividends ; would noViceording to ; the first effect be to increase the - distress of the courttryl.-. Certainly not; I allow that at the period ,alluded tO7the power of consumption of the nonlarrdUctbieclaisTes would be diminished, because they would It'ai4 ItAimit'ed sum of money, and the prices of property would have risen ; sod therefore there can be no doubt that the power of- con sumption on the part of the non-productive classes would be diminished, but the power of consumption on the part of the productive classes would be greatly increased ; and I think that even the power of consumption on the part of the non-productive classes would not be very seriously diminished, because the retail prices of articles, general'y speaking, have not fallen half so much as the wholesale prices. LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 15, 1832. (No. 12,185.) (PRICE 7D.) POLICE INTELLIGENCE. and his companion enter the prosecutor's shop at an early hour on the morning of the robbery. The inspector, on searching the prisoner, found in hi, possession a Bank of England note for 50/., one foi 20/., and two of the value of 5/. each, together with a brief, which was found to have been prepared for the defence of the driver of the hackney-coach, who was then about to take his trial at the Old Bailey for receiving the segars with a guilty know ledge. The prisoner Jephson was subsequently committed for the robbery, and the trial of both prisoners was fixed for Thursday last, but it wa, postponed by order of the Court, in consequence of the apprehension of the prisoner Wood, against whom the following evidence was yesterday pro duced before Mr. Minshull. Mr. George Clarke is a hay-salesmen, and lives near the Iron-gate Wharf, Paddington. On the morning of Sunday the 29th of July last, he left home, and on his return found that his house had been entered in his ab,ence, the thieves having scaled a wall and wrenched an iron bar from his kit chen window. Property to the amount of 400/. was carried off, including three Bank of England notes for .50/. each, which w ere mar k e d w i t h hi s 1 wealing it ; on the contrary, she was delighted that she had found it, and was at that very moment going out to restore it to the complainant, which shi should have felt great pleasure in doing. Mr. GREGORIE should very much like to have the attendance of the baker. —That is an effect, but it is of very little consequence to the manufacturer. Does it not tend to increase his profits to - that amount, and may not the profit be very great if the depreciation is rapid?—.Upon a large stock of goods the profit would be considerable in a rapid de p reciation. Wherein does the profit to the manufacturer consist at times of depreciation, if not in that cause ?—I consider there would be a great profit to the holder of stocks in the action of the depreciation, but when the action of the de preciation was completed, there would then still remain the reasonable profits of industry, and the same induce ments would continue to employ labour as existed during the late depreciation of the currency. When that depreciation has reached its maximum in the following year, supposing it to be stationary, what would be the additional stimulus given to industry at that period? —The pressure of the fixed charges would not rise cor respondingly. The Committee understand, that as far as banking is concerned, the only alteration which you think would be desirable would be to make Bank of England notes a legal tender by all persons except the Bank of England ? That is the chief improvement I wish in the present sys tem of banking ; the joint stock banks are of course in existence, but I consider them injurious in every way and beneficial in none. Have not you a joint stock bank at Birmingham ?—Yes. Does it de mach business ?--A great deal.- Does it interfere much with the private bankers?— Very much ; the country bankers having, during the fluctuations that have existed in the last 15 years, stood in the position of borrowers on the one hand and lenders on the other, they have at each period of the three great fluc tuations been as it were guarantees between the debtor and - Would not the immediate effect be, as soon as the de preciation reached its maximum, to transfer a portion of income from the receivers of the rents and dividends to the industrious portion of the community?—Yes. And do you consider that the effect of that would be r.tiier to iuctease than to diminish the distress of the pro. ductive classes?—No; my former answer was, that a direct diminution of taxation and of national expenditure, effected suddenly, would throw the labour now employed by such taxation and expenditure out of employment, and would also throw other masses of labourers out of employ. ment collaterally. This would be a temporary operation ; and if you could only maintain the people (luring it, at the end of a few years the prosperity of the industrious classes would be much benefited by taking off the taxes. If the depreciation were rapid, the depreciation wend.' soon reach its maximum, and if it soon reached its maxi mum, would not this distress be occasioned ?—I think 3IANSIOX HOUSE. Attree, the young man charged by Pearsall, the porter at the East India-house, with having extorted ss. from him by a threat, was brought up for final examination, and committed. A tall bony man, with a large head of red hair, was brought before the LORD MAYOR, charged with having pulled off his shoes as he walked along the streets, and offered to sell them for a pint of porter. The officer said that the prisoner, whose name was Munro Corbel, had previously sold his coat and hat, and it was to he presumed that his breeches would go after his shoe:. When witness took him into custody he said that as he was going to fight for Don Pedro, he had no occasion for the ordinary dress, and was therefore "selling off" as fast as pos sible. Witness, finding that he was either mad or drunk, arid afraid that he would actually pull of his "'reeks" to the first Jew that met him, took him quietly off to the station-house, where, after sleep ing a few hours, he asked for " a drop of barley broth." The complainant said that he was iR the office. The baker was then sworn, and stated that tht prisoner was quite a stranger to him. She came into his shop and purchased some articles of pastry, between twelve and one o'clock that morning, arid went away. N.B. One of the above firm may 1)e congilted for a short period on Mondays and Thursdays, at No. 89, New -street, Birmingham, and the intermediate days, at No. 11, Bath street, Leamington Spa. Mr. GREGORIE—Did you notice her having a sil ver pen in her possession ? Witness—She put a small parcel on the counter, and I observed some thing like the handle of a pen with it ; I only partly saw it, and scarcely noticed it. The silver pen was here produced, but the witness said that he could not swear it was the same. lie merely mentioned the circumstance to the prose cutor, when he called and mentioned the robbery to him. VALUABLE AND BEAUTIFUL ESTATE IN STIRLINGSHIRE. TO BE SOLD BY PUBLIC ROUP, Within the Royal Exchange Coffee-house, Edinburgh, On WenxEsnavi-th e 10th day of October next, at One o'clock in the afternoon, THE ESTATE of GARGUNNOCK, five miles west of the town of Stirling, containing nearly 1,900 imperial acres, of whirls about 500 are of a rich clay soil, about 600 dry-field, and the remainder sound hill pasture. The Lands are inclosed and subdivided, and there are substantial and suitable' onsteads to the different farms, also a Corn Mill, and thriving Distillery. Tt.e MANSION HOUSE, which is party modern, is large and commodious, to which is attached a complete court of off►ces, as well as farm offices; the Garden is sur rounded with a wall, and stocked with frait trees and bushes, with Hot-house and Conservatory. The Cess has been redeemed, the Teinds of the Parish are exhausted, and the burdens are very trifling. There is a great deal of valuable old Timber on the Estate, as well as thriving Plantations of Coppice, &c., and the Lands abound with Gime. Viewed as an investment of capital, such an Estate is seldom in the market. The dry field lands are susceptible of great improvement, at a small expense, which' would yield a liberal return. The Mansion House is situated on a slight eminence, in the centre of a pretty extensive lawn, which is ornamented with beautiful full grown trees, with clumps and belts of P l anting along the boundaries, from which Stirling Castle, the Vale of Forth. and the interesting and romantic s cenery of the West Highlands of Perthshire are seen in the distance. not ; one is a healthy mode of effecting a reduction of the taxes, the other is an unhealthy mode. In the 11 - case you give to the unproductive classes a sum of money as large as ever, which enables them at least to pay their debts and taxes; but in the case of a direct reduction of taxation, you give no money what ever fur such reduction. Now the distress of the people depends a great deal more upon their eett'ng po•session of too small au amount of money to pay their debts and taxes, than. it does upon the getting possession of a full sum of money which commands a reduced quantity of commo dities The LORD MAYOR asked the poor fellow, who stared at all around him, why he took a fancy to un dress himself in the public highway ? Corbet could not exactly answer that question. lie recollected having met a countryman in like dis tress, and that they both went into a public-house to cure themselves of that disease; but the landlord never having seen them before, was unwilling to give them credit, on which account he (Corbet) left h's hat behind for the value of the pot. The LORD MAYOR—But how did you get rid of your coat ? Mrs. Godfrey here said that the pen noticed by the last witness was the metal pen which she had been writing her letters with that morning. Mr. GREGORIE felt it his duty to commit her for trial at the next sessions, and the witnesses were bound over to prosecute. Mrs. Godfrey—l am willing to take my oath that I did not steal the pen. Gaoler—You mu.t come this way, ma'am. Mrs. Godfrey—Mercy upon me, what a situation! Stop a moment. Is my oath to be rejected in this manner ? initials. Having heard that some bank -notes, sup posed to have been stolen, were in possession of Inspector Adarnson, witness requested to see them, and immediately identified the 50/. as one of those of which he had been robbed. Edward Mack, a milkman, residing in Market. street, Hackney-road, on Sunday, the 29th of July, was standing near the premises of the last witness, and saw the prisoner and two other men close to the passage leading to Mr. Clarke's house. Inspector Adamson, from information he received, went to the New-inn, Old Bailey, at four o'clock on Thursday, and there took the prisoner into custody. He was in attendance on the Court, and expected to be called to prove an alibi in favour of the pri sonerJephson, whose trial was appointed for that day. Mr. MINSIIULL should remand the prisoner for a week, to give time for further inquiry. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Mrs. Godfrey was then removed, most solemnly protesting her innocence, and begging that her ser vant might be sent for immediately. Corbet said that, as for the coat, he went and borrowed money upon that to redeem his bat, but just as lie was passing along he met another friend in distress. LAMBETH-STREET. The LORD MAYOR—And you went to apply the same remedy in that case. Corbet said that was certainly the case, and in the end he had not wherewithal to release his hat. The officer said that the defendant had come to town but the day before, and had actually pawned his trunk for three pennyworth of beer and a news paper. John illacguire, a shrewd-looking Irishman, in the garb of a labourer, was brought from the Masion house, in custody of one of the city police, before Mr. DYER, the sitting Magistrate, charged with having obtained money arid goods under false pre tence.,. Farther information may be obtained by applying to , A lessrs. Gr een , P em b erton, C raw l ey, an d G ard i ner , soli eitors, 46 Salisbury-sq uare , London ; Mr. George Innes l ir e. W. S., Edi n b urg h ; or A n d rew Hutton, writer, in '' tir li"g, the latter of whom is in posse.sion of the titles and articles of roup. The LORD MAYOR told the defendant that he might have had the reading of all the papers for a mere trifle, and that it would 'not be easy to find such an instance of improvidence. His Lordship ad vised him to go home; but Corbet said he had pledged himself to fight for Don Pedro. " It was almost time for you," said the Lord Mayor, " to pledge yourself when you had pledged all your clothes.' —(Laughter.) His Lordship then gave Mr. Cot bet a few shilling.; to redeem his wardrobe with, in order that he might jo'n the patriots with character. As there were other charges against the prisoner Mr. DYER directed that he should be remanded for the present. C AIIINET MAKERS' SOCIETY, 71, LEADEN SAVAGE CONDUCT.—A ruffianly-looking fellow, named William Dockeray, who has abandoned the business of a pugilist for ihat of a coal-heaver, was brought into the office for having just inflicted a tremendoui blow on a young female, with whom he cohabited. The woman remained senseless for HALL-STREET. I‘ll.ll. THURNELL respectfully solicits the Nobility and Gentry to inspect the largest and t e st-select e d S toc k of Ca bi net an d Up h olstery Goo d s i n '404 '4 at the CABINET-MAKERS' SOCIETY, 71, Leadenhall-street, City, which Society is enrolled agree ably to Act of Parliament, and founded for the support t i d encouragement of industrious Mechanics, who all com allue to produce only the very best Articles, provide for its ' e mbers in sickness, old age, and Milo', and for survivors t death. By order of the Trustees, THOS. HASLER, Secretary, 71, Leadenhall-street, City. }all sisernahogany four_ jServants' chest of post bedst £2 2 0 thbedstead Ditto t ead.. ... . ....,£3 15 01 drawers tit r t d o e p b k 1 60, Mahogany em ro e 16 furniture 315 0 table . . to hiedllair matt.; ... straw mattress Mahogany dining table... 3 3 0 FtsatherbeZ" 1 1 Eight mahogany chairs... 5 11) C to fit dust ~.......... .......... ........ 3 . free from Cellaret! sideboard 6 10 0 10 10 0 10 0 Pedestal ditto t ur e feet six featherbed 2 12 0. Set Of four feet mahogany t' u r r iet six hair mattress 210 0, dining tables, 11 feet four !eet six best ditto, I 6 long 14 10 0 , o ur ick .................... 3 3 0 Small ditto, patent ...... .r feet six dock . bed IMusic stool, in morocco l5 0 s.at!d bolster 1 10 0 ; Sandwich tray 1 8 0 l '' JaPanned chairs in oil !Butler's ditto 0 10 0 II an colour 1 6 0 Eight Trafalgar chairs...lo 10 0 es t japanned dressing I Dittodrawing-room,each 0 18 0 table 0 16 0' Drawing room couch.... 5 5 0 bit towash-hand ditto Co is Irunon ditto 0 8 0 Common ditto 0 4 6 ' J etto dresrig table Th ree feet . ..,hest maho_ I card, and sofa 19 0 0 gany drawers 2 19 0 Ditto ditto 2l 10 0 ..br ee feet six ditto 316 0 Elegant drawing.room mahogany box glass, two , curtains . drawer s sewood caddies of 31allogany night conve 0 15 0 Rosewood thncy wood, from 18s. to I S ..menee 4 0 Imitation ditto, Canter "ltto with three steps Ditto bidet and pan Ditto ditto Bedroom sofa bedstead, 1 fonier m attress to fit, with top 3 8 0, Ditt o ditt o 3 10 0 f rench bedstead, ja- ,' Lady's woik table, ma ,, Patined uamboo tent bedstead.... 1 12 0' Ditto, silk and fringed 3 3 0 1. ive feet mahogany four- Large winged wardrobes enst and fur n it ure, Japanned book shelves 0 6 0 }French draperies and Rosewood ditto 0 6 silk fringe 14 14 0 Loo tables...(upwards)... 6 10 0 0 All featherbeds warranted free from dust and smell, *.,* Old Furniture taken in exchange " Non est vivere sed valere vita."—Martial. " Life is only lif e w h en bl est w i th health. " T HE finest System of Ethics is to confine within due bounds, and thus to regulate the Pas sions; unrestrained, and insubordinate, they impetuously destroy those barriers which Religion and Morality have made sacred ; to curb but not annihilate them, appears the lesion of prudence, best calculated to limit their efferves cence. Every disorganization of the human frame requires great medical knowledge to remedy, and the public wel fare is promoted when professional men (disregarding the suggestions of the envious and interested) devote their studies to the treatment of those complaints generated by imprudence, and the ebullition of the passions at an un guarded moment. " The strength of a nation consists in the health of the people ;" but, it is melancholy to reflect on the daily sacrifice to the ignorance of unfeeling empy ricism ; and to counteract, as far as possible, its further ravages, we offer to suffering humanity the result of our own experience in the various diseases of Debility. The unwary victim of solitary vice, (early acquired at school, berore reason has asserted her right over the mind), will, in cuntempliting his powerless state, become susceptib!e of enlivening sensations, in knowing that the most com plicated state of exhaustion may be roused into manly energy. Intense study—immoderate anxiety—long resi dence in tropical climes, and many other causes, will fre quently derange the Nervous System ; in such cases we can hold out an assurance of re-animation, by a treatment which has long answered the sanguine hopes of Patients of both sexes. That bane to human happiness, SYPHYLIS, can now he treated fearlessly, the improved state of Medical Sci ence having divested its antidote of those distressing pro perties that so long rendered its exhibition uncertain and harassing. Some peculiarities incidental to the softer sex have not escaped our attention ; in which mildness, combined with efficacy, has superseded the means usually adopted. In fine, our system is unique, peculiarly ener getic, and eminently successful. Educated in London, schooled in our professional at tainments by its splendid medical characters, anti having ' been able, personally, to compare with admirat i on the British Surgical practice with the Continental, our pre tensions to superiority (in a blanch w e have selected) are matured by experience, which is evinced by i the daily ap plications we rece i ve, even fromtnirsstuanatl consultation Daily attend ance i s g i ven for p nsul t e atto i n : th a le n s d 1 esters tro m th e country are immediately le must contain a r em i ttance for Advice answered r e Medicines, which can be forwarded to any part of the world, however distant. GOSS and CO., M.R.C., Surgeons, No. 11, Bouverie-street, Fleet-street, London. Just published (Twentieth Edition)-1. The lEGIS of LIFE, a familiar commentary on Debility and Nervous D iseases.-2. The SYPHILIST, treating of Venereal Disease. -3. H YGEIANA, addressed exclusively to the Female sex. May be h a d at 23, Paternoster-row, London; Porter, 72, Grafton-street, Dublin; 86, Trongate, Glasgow; at 9 , Calton street, Edinburgh ; Wrightson, Birmingham ; Duffield, Bath ; Brown and Reid, Bristol; Weller, Chel tenham; Loder, Brighton ; Wood, Huntingdon ; Hatt, • Cambridge; Trewman, Exeter; Deck, Ipswich; Hob son, Leeds; Gore and Son, Liverpool; Suwler, Nlanches ter ; Platt and. Tt.dd, Sheffield ; Bacon and Co., Nor- Wich ; Haldon and Lowndes, and Slatter, Oxford; Brodie and Dowding, Salisbury ; Oxley, Windsor ; and of all liooksellera.—Priee be. each. GUILDHALL. John Ward was brought up yesterday for final examination, charged with aiding in obtaining, under false pretences, from Mr. Currie, of Regent-street, two acceptances for 6001. Mr. Hobson, of Lower Grosvenor-place, Pimlico, said a Mrs. Bayley (with whom Ward lodged ) had dealt with him, and finding some difficulty in getting his last account, he went. there one day with his man, and finding Mrs. Bailey was not at home, he left his man there with instructions not to leave the house till he had some cash. As soon as he went down stairs, Mr. Ward felt much aggrieved at the presence of the-man, and spoke earnestly of pitching him out of the window. Poor Matthew, being alarmed, called in the police for his protection ; wit ness was fetched, and the business was settled for the time by Ward's undertaking to give him a bill on Ferguson (Farquharson), whom he would refer to at Gerard's-hall, Basing-lane, but he could not hear of any such person. Ward boasted that his acceptance was as good as the Bank's. Mr. Harmer said, it would have been so if Mr. Currie had fulfilled his engagement. Sir PETER LAURIE understood Mr. Lyster would show to-day that the prisoner was not the holder of the patent for locomotive carriages running in any part of Scotland. Mr. Lyster could, and called Mr. Gurney, a brother of the gentleman who holds in part the steam coach patent. He said that Ward was not the patentee, but he was delegated to se!l the patent, and the Lord of the Isles coach was sold through him to Mr. Currie, in order to facilitate the sale of the patent.' Mr. Harmer thanked Mr. Lyster for calling this witness, who had proved the prisoner had authority to do what he had done,—treat for the sale of the patent. Mr. Lyster thought his evidence would have had a different tendency. He put a question to the pri soner, but Mr. Harmer instantly checked him, and asked how long he had been in the profession ? Mr. Lys ter said four years. Mr. Harmer said, if a clerk who It id been only three weeks in his office had been guilty of putting questions to a prisoner, he would have turned him away. Sir PETER LAURIE asked if any other person had a charge to make against the prisoner. No answer being returned, Sir PETER had remanded the prisoner in the ex pectation that Mr. Currie's was not the only case. It appeared to be otherwise. As to Mr. Currie 's charge, he had made up his mind that it was not one which he could ervertain. A man might go about telling as many lies as he pleased, and they would not be so many false pretences, according to the legal interpretation of the words. The pri soner, therefore,i.las discharged. The name of Sir Charles Forbes had been mentioned, and he had received a note from Sir Charles on the subject, declaring all he knew of Farquharson was, that be came to him to beg assistance on the 24th of March, and that he gave him 25/. to take him back to Scotland. Few men were so liberal us Sir Charles. BOMSTREET. A respectably dressedyoung man,who stated that his name was Nicholas Wood, was brought before Mr. MINSHULL by inspector Adamson, of the A division of police, charged with having been con ce►ned in a burglary committed at the house of Mr. George Clarke, a hay-salesman, residing at Pad dington, on the 29th of July last. In May last the shop of Mr. Parry, a tobacconist, under the Piazzas in Covent-garden, was entered lay means of a false key by two men, and segars to the amount of 100/. were stolen and placed in a hackney-coach, which was in the act of driving off with the booty when it was stopped by Morgan, a constable of Covent-garden market, who, finding the property in the coach, took the driver to the police-station, and the segars having been subse quently identified, the driver was committed to Newgate for receiving the goods, knowing them to be stolen. The two men by whom the robbery was perpetrated managed to effect their escape, but, about a fortnight ago, one of them, whose name is Thomas Jephson, was apprehended in Whitehall by inspector Adamson, on the information► of a porter in Covent-garden-market, and who saw the prisoner Another account differs from that of our reporter, and gives the following as Mr. Gurney's evidence : Mr. Samuel Gurney, brother of the patentee, appeared, as summoned by Mr. Currie, and prcduced a letter from Currie to Mr. Gurney, the patentee, in which Mr. Currie calls himself the agent to Mr. Ward, in this Scotch steam coach concern ; and Mr. S. Gurney stated, that Mr. Ward was the actual proprietor of the Lord of the Ides, and that he had actually engaged to pay for it a large sum to the pat en tee, some time, and for many hours afterwards appeared in a stwe of stupor, from the effects of the blow. The only explanation which the brute gave of his conduct was, that the woman had spent some of his money during the last few days, which had put him out of temper; and as she persisted in speaking to him while he was talking to another person, he knocked her down. The young woman, in a faint tone, said that he had given her a tremendous beating only the night before.—He was ordered to find bail. DIAMOND CUT DIAMOND; Mr. Edward Wilson, of Augusta-square, attended yesterday to learn the decision of a summons which he had obtained against a hackney-coachman, for having charged more for the distance he drove him than what he conceived to be his legal fare. As some difference of opinion occurred as to the distance, both parties deposited a sum of money in order to cover the expenses of measurement. The officer who measured the ground with the wheel, declared that the distance exceeded, by about two hundred yards, the distance which Mr. Wilson conceived he had gone, and consequently the driver was justified in charging the fare he had taken. " Well," said Mr. Wilson, " that is very odd; for before I thought of summoning the driver, I had the ground measured by a surveyor, and it was con siderably under the distance stated by the officer." " And," said coachee, with a grin, " I had the ground measured before I came here, and my dis. tance comes within six yards of the Jfficer's." Mr. DYER said, he must decide according to the result obtained by the wheel, and therefore he must charge Mr. Wilson with the expenses, who must also compensate the driver for loss of time. Q UEEN-SQUARE. Yesterday, Mrs. Christina Godfrey, of No. 14, Seaford-terrace, Blackland's-lane, Chelsea, a lady who has always been considered in respectable cir cumstances, was brought wp in custody, and placed at the bar before Mr. GREGORIE, charged with steal ing one of the patent silver pens, value 3s. 6d., from the shop of Mr. Thomas Smith, grocer and tea-dealer, at No. 43, Sloane-street. The prisoner, who is about the middle age, and, as we understood, a widow, was extremely agitated when placed at the bar. The complainant stated, that about 12 o'clock that morning the prisoner came into his shop, and purchased some coffee. He had a silver pen lying on the counter, and the prisoner had no sooner left his shop than he missed the pen ; and being con vinced in his own mind, notwiths•anding her re spectable appearance, that she had taken it, he fol lowed her, and saw her go into a baker's shop and come out again. He went into the baker's, to ask him if he knew the lady ; but she was quite a stranger to him, and he then mentioned what had occurred, when the baker told him that he had seen something like a pen outside a parcel which the lady had put down on the counter while she pur chased a few articles. His suspicions were now con firmed, and he left the shop and followed the pri soner to her own house, at No. 14, Seaford-terrace. He rapped at the door, and was admitted, when he accused her of having stolen the silver pen off his counter, which she solemnly denied. He immedi ately went away, got a police constable, and returned to the house, and gave her in charge. The constable found the silver pen in her hand. A police constable, of the B division, stated, that when he was taken to the house to apprehend the prisoner, she had the pen in her hand, and told him that the prosecutor, who had called upon her only a few minutes before, had left the silver pen upon her table. Mrs. Godfrey —That I deny ; I never said any such thing. Mr. GREGORIE—Have you any answer to make to the charge ? Mrs. Godfrey, in reply, was quite innocent of the charge. She had been to a friend's house that morning, where there had been a death in the family, and, out of respect, she had put on a black crape cloak. She had written several letters that morning concernin g her friend's death, to send into the country, with one of the common metal pen's, which she had with her, and which she took home with her. She certainly went into Mr. Smith's shop to purchase some coffee, but solemnly denied having either seen or touched his silver pen. When he called upon her, and accused her of having stolen his pen off the counter, she was greatly surprised, and, knowing herself to be innocent, she positively denied it, but shortly after he left the house she found the pen sticking in her black crape cloak, where it had got entangled. She was quite alarmed at the circumstance, and called her servant to tell her that she was going out, when Mr. Smith and the policeman came in and took her into custody. She would ask whether it was likely that she should have the pen in her hand if s h e bad been guilty of Mr. Turpin, a respectable farmer, residing at North Ockendon, in Essex, applied to Mr. WALKER, for his sanction to have two valuable coach mares delivered up to him. It appeared from the statement of Miller, the chief constable, that on Monday last the applicant disposed of two handsome carriage mares, belonging to Mr. Brampton, a Magistrate, near Romford, at Harlow-bush fair, to a person who represented his name to be George Griffin, and said he kept a livery. stable in the Edgeware-road. The animals were at once delivered to the purchaser, who handed over eight 101. and two .5/. notes, purporting to be of the Bank of England. Mr. Taylor, not suspecting for a moment the genuineness of the notes, put them into his pocket, but on the next day, on presenting them at the Romford bank, he discovered, to his great mortification, that they were all forgeries. He lost no time in coming up to town, and giving in formation of the circumstance to Miller, who set about making the necessary inquiries, and ultimately traced the animals to the possession of a merchant in the city, who said he had purchased them on Tues day morning, from a person who was known to him as a Mr. Jones, but who, from his description, there is n o doubt is the same person who bought them from Mr. Turpin, and passed the forged notes. The gentleman, however, on the facts being represented to him, made no hesitation in returning the pro perly, and gave such information as will ultimately lead to the apprehension of the offender. The for geries are not well executed, but still they are such ' as to deceive an ordinary judge. They are all dated in May and June last. Within the last few days Miller has received information of three 101. notes, of precisely a similar description, being taken in the ' way of business. COMMITTEE ON THE BANK OF ENG- LAND CHARTER. Examination of Thomas ATTWOOD, Esq. ( Continued from The Sun of yesterday.) Hai not that just the same effect as a reduction of taxa tion, without any change in the ♦alue of the circulating medium ?—I have not been able to see any great good done by the reduction of taxation yet ; although I am a gnat advocate for such reduction, I think that in every step taken in the last 15 years, in the reduction of taxa- tion, as we have reduced the taxes we have increased in misery. Taxes are more or less oppressive in proportion to the quantity of money in circulation. Have you considered the principles on which the Bank of England ought to conduct its management of the issue of notes ?—I do not like to give an opinion about the Bank ; but it acts upon principles which the law imposes, and I cannot see how it can act otherwise than it does act now. Is there any alteration of the law with respect to the Bank of England which you would suggest ?—I should suggest that when the circulating medium has become effi cient to employ the industry of the country, at a period when the gold goes abroad, the Bank should increase its notes to fill the place of the gold, and then we should have no depression of prices. You would do that upon the understanding that that would lead to a Bank restriction ?—lt is highly probable, but not certain. Supposing the Bank do not calculate upon coming to a Bank re.triction, is it not necessary for the Bank to regu -1 Ite their issues according to the foreign exchanges ? Unquestionably they must, or else they must stop payment themselves. Do you think that increase of taxation would restore prosperity to the country ?—Unquestionably not. But yet you consider that the diminution of taxation which has taken place in the last fifteen years has done mischief ?—I do not say that it has done mischief, but it his given very litle relief to the country; the great evil we laboured under not being the weight of taxes, but the thraldrom of our industry. Does taxation diminish consumption, in your opinion ? am inclined to think not. I think that if we took 30,000,000/. off from our taxation. we should reduce the present employment of labour 30,000,0001. at least; the taxes might be increased to double their present amount, and the country not suffer one-tenth part of what it is now suffering. Does it not transfer the cinsumption from the industrious man to the person that lives upon the tax ?—Unques tionably, all the taxes are lett as a charge upon industry. Therefore, it may leave the aggregate consumption of the country the same, but it would diminish the consump• tion of the' industrious man, and transfer it to the man who lives up in a fixed income ?-1 think a sudden re duction of taxation of 20 or 30 millions would not only throw 20 or 30 :pillions of labour out of employment, but I think it would act collaterally upon the industrious classes so as to do them still more damage for a short time. Would it not diminish the production of articles con sumed by the persons living upon fixed incomes, and oc• casion a consumption on the part of the labourer to the extent of the tax reduced ?-0n the contrary, it would induce the consumption of the industrious classes for per haps one or two years by its collateral action upon credit, confidence, and trade. You have stated that in your opinion taxation does not affect the power of consumption ?—The present taxation is employed in absolute consumption ; it is all employed in the maintenance of labour, in one shape or other. Then you think that taxation increases the power of consumption ?—To a certain extent, at present. Is not taxation one of the fixed charges to which you alluded just now as bearing heavily upon the country, and which, in your opinion, prevents the labourers from consuming as much as they otherwise would ; how do you reconcile those two o pi n i ons ?—B ecause the breaking down of the prices of property, without being attended with a corresponding breaking down of the charges upon production, destroys the motives for the employment of industry, and as such keeps labour unemployed. If more is consumed, must not more persons be em. ployed to produce the commodities which are consumed ? That is the action of the present taxation. Is not this the explanation of the effect of the deprecia tion of the value of money—that when a manufacturer is trading, not for money, but for time, when the period of payment comes round, be pays for the raw article in a cur rency of less value than he stipulated for at the time when he made the bargain, and thus secures to himself a profit? the creditor interest of the country, and forced to make good the engagements of the debtor to the creditor at a time when, at three different periods, the burden of debts has been nearly doubled ; the consequence of this painful and urgent position of the bankers has been to expose them so, without exception, to very great injuries and losses ; it bas likewise been to expose them all to a great number of difficult entanglements and locked up debts ; the means of supporting those entanglements and doubtful and locked up debts, and the means of supporting the losses upon their capitA in a great degree arose from the masses of money which the public have been in the habit of keeping 'fa t eir hinds, and al,o from the annual proits of their business ; now the annual profits of their business are broken down and nearly annihilated ; that I will call a comparative trifle ; but combinations of the richer cus. towers and the richer connections have been engaged against them, who draw away their own balances, which were formerly ;n the hands of the country bankers, to form powerful combinations of former friends converted into bitter enemies, snd these powerful combinations prevail, by the influence of numbers and of solicitation, in drawing away large masses of money from the old establishments; the consequence of which is, that the old establishments are left in a great degree with all manner of difficulties and entanglements, and the means by which hitherto they have supported those entanglements are mainly drawn away, or are in the act of being drawn away. This is my principal reason for considering the joint stock banks exceedingly injurious to the banking sys em, and, t'.►rougb that, to the country at large Has it come to your lariwle lge that since the joint stock bank has been established at Birmingham it has met with very serious losses ?—I have no doubt whatever of it, though they are mainly concealed. Do you know it?—Yes, I do. Do they bear a large proportion to the profits of the year ?—I do not know, it is all concealment and darkness. h there any publication of their accounts ?—None, but to the directors, who are interested in jobbing and puffing up the thing, which, in my opinion is more illusive than any of the bubbles of 1825. Do you think the security of that bank, considering the number of proprietors, is good ?—I do not think it is more so than that of private bankers, because the private bankers have always been safe, generally speaking; I have never known en inmtanee of scarce a farthing being lost by country bankers; of the banks that stopped during the panic, 60 out of 66 have paid 20s. in the pound, and the one that stopped in Birmingham has_paid_l7s. 6d. Would not a creditor find great difficulty in recovering from those joint stock banks?—Very great difficulty in deed ; I think it is a great hardship upon country bankers that the joint stock banks stand upon a much better foot ing in that tesptct against the public than they do. Are the proprietors of the joint stock bank at Birming ham known?—They are not known publicly, except by conversation. Would it not be proper, as a security to the creditors, . . that the names should be known?-1 think so, and that when the proprietors retire, it should be published, as in a private bank ; they can retire now when they please, and in three years they are released from all difficulty and responsibility ; whereas a private banker cannot re tire without publication in the Gazette; and, again, no law-suit can reach them in less than 12 months, and during that period they may go abroad and avoid an act of bankruptcy; so that the public are imposed upon by the establishment of joint stock banks. Has there been much fluctuation in the prices of shares, and can you trace those fluctuations to any con trivances of the Dinctars of the Company to raise or de press the shares ?—Undoubtedly that has been the cur rent opinion in the town, that the premiums were merely created far letting the shares go in a puffed up way. Ii there any restriction as to the power of the Di rectors to buy or sell shares ?—None whatever, that 1 know of. Do they issue notes?—No, they obtained a limited power of issuing Bank of England notes at the rate of 3 per cent. You have stated that the Birmingham joint stock com pany has met with some heavy losses ; do you happen to know any instance where the loss has arisen by a loan o f money either to a Director or to a Proprietor of a joint stock banking company ?—I know of several to proprie tors, but not, I think, to a Director. Is it within your knowledge that the loans to those in• dividuals in question were made upon securities upon which it would have been unusual for a private bank to make advances?—l think they were upon very dangerous securities indeed. Do you think that the principle of the joint stock banks as a universal principle to be objectionable?—l think they are all objectionable, because we have in England a long established system, which is equally efficient for every good purpose, without having any of the bad effects. Supposing that there were to be found towns of consi derable trade and population where a bank has actually been wanted, and also districts of the country where there is a want of the conveniences of a bank, and a want of circulating medium, and there is no disposition on the part of three or four or five or six individuals to associate together for the purpose of establishing a bank, under those circumstances how would you relieve the wants 01 the public?—After the destruction among banks occasioned by the panic, it might not be objectionable to allow in those districts of joint stock bank; ; but I think that in other districts of the country they have been exceedingly injurious to the old bankers, and, through them, to the country at large. Arc you aware that in the town of Lancaster a few years ago there was no private bank whatever ?—Yes. And that a joint stock bank has been established there, which has affirded great accommoda ion to the merchants and traders of the town of Lancaster, and been profitable to the proprietors have heard so, but I much doubt it. You have stated that the advantage of a depreciation of currency, when it reached its maximum, would be, that it would reduce the fixed charges of industry; would not this occasion a diminution in the proportion which tli, rent and taxes for the payment of the dividends bore to the whole amount ; would not that occasion a diminution of the articles consumed by those that receive rents and dividends; and how does this agree with your farmer answer, that the reduction of taxation would occasion ra ther distress than prosperity to the country ?—I do not mean to say that reduction of taxation would occasion distress prernanently, but that for a few months, or pedlaps years, any large reduction of taxation would increase the national embarrassment, as things now are. Must not the inttnediate effect of this depreciation, when it reached its maximum, by diminishing the fixed charges upon industry, be to reduce the consumption of the ar ticles consumed by those who receive rents and dividends, and thus in the first instance to increase rather than to di•. minish the distress of the country?—Previously increasing the consumption of the productive classes more than cor respondingly. The question refers to the effect of the depreciation when it has reached its maximum, inasmuch as it will reduce the incoinc in the possession of those who now receive rent Putting the ef f ect of a reduction of fixed charges aside, do you mean to say that when the reduction reached its maximum, it would increase the prosperity of the country, reducing the currency to the value of one half what it was before?—When the work is once done, there can be no occasion to push it any further. When it has reached the ultimate depreciation, say of 10s. in the pound, do you mean to say that then, putting aside the question of reducing the fixed charges, it will be an advantage to the country ?—Unquestionably ; and there will be no occasion to go any farther. By leaving all the powers of industry free, every trade having a reasonable profit would cause every labourer to be em ployed beneficially to his employer; and every labourer finding that his employer had a profit in his employment, would naturally obtain from his employer adequate wages for his industry. Do you propose, when the depreciation has reached a certain point, to keep it at that point?—There might be various modes—either by establishing a metallic standard of value, or by establishing the Bank of England note as a legal tender; or by converting a mass of Exchtepter bills into a legal tender, or by converting a portion of the national debt into a legal tender, and limiting it so as to t.ave an abundance of circulation without any excess. Do you consider, that so long as there exists a labounr in the country not fully employed, an increased issue of currency may be made with advantage, whatever it be?-- As a general principle, I think, unquestionably, that so long as any number of industrious honest workmen in the kinr:- dont are out of employment, supposing such deficiency of employment not to be local but general, I should think it the duty, and certainly the intetest, of Government, to continue the depreciation of the currency until full employ ment is obtained, and general prosperity. Witat is your test of full employment ?—lt is difficult to obtain an absolute test. If you have not an abso►ute test to which you can refer. may not the principle you recommend lead to an indefinite depreciation, since different persons, and different Alinis ters, and different Governments, will have very different notions with respect to what full employment means ?-1 think not; every one considers that full employment c,r tainly ex:sted in 1825. Were there no persons unemployed in 1825 ?—I think no honest man. Would you have the depreciation go on as the population increased ?—I see no necessity for that ; whether we have 4ot the present state of population, or double its number, a just state of the currency would employ them all. Would you have the amount of currency r,ferrible, not to capital, but to the population of the country ?—I think it would have no reference to the population of the country ; if the population were dueled, I think the whole might be employed as beneficially as the present number, by establishing either a just metallic standard of value, or by establishing artificial standards of value, which, in my opinion, are better suited to the present artificial state of our society. Can you employ more labourers in a country than you can house, feed, and clothe?--The employment I consider to be the housing, feeding, and clothing them. Does not the extent of the mass of industry you can set in motion in a country depend upon thequantity of the necessaries of life you can command in order to give to the labourers?—Certainly. How could you increase the proportion of the labourers that are employed in a country, without taking away a portion of the necessaries of life from the wealthy, to con fer it upon the poorer and industrious ?—I think the la bourers would each of them produce more than four times as much of the comforts of life as they and their families could possibly consume. When you admit that the number of persons you can nnploy in the country depends upon the quantities of the necessaries of life you can cotnraand, and when you state that the plan you recommend would put in action a mueh greater number of labourers, how could that be, unless you took away from one class in order to give it to the other ? —I think the quantity of food and clothing which we can command in the country depends mainly upon the quan tity of labourers whose hands and heads we can employ in producing such commodities. Supposing the population was suddenly reduced, so as to afford ample employment to those that remained, in that case would vou consider the present state of our currency atisfactory ?—Certainly not ; I doubt whether any reduc tion of population would improve the circumstances of the remainder. Then you think the wages of labour to be dependent upon the number of labourers ?—At present the reward of labour being destroyed, the labourers present the i dienomenon of a superabundance; at a time when the labour of their hands will produce four times as much food and clothing as their families will consume, they find n • •mploytnent, because, the organ of industry, which is :nosey, does not exist in sufficient quantities to give the productive classes a reward in the employment oflahoure: therefore the labourer in want of employment looks over he hedge upon the half-cultivated farm, where the land suffering for want of his labour, but at the same time the farmer has neither the profit nor the money to enable him to bring the hand and the land into contact. Do lou think the retail profits have not been reduced in the same proportion as the wbolesale?—The retail pikes have unquestionably not been reduced in the same roportion as the wholesale. If you speak to a black stnith, who buys his iron at one-third of the price that e bought it in 1825, he charges just as much, and he tell you that he ie doing worse now than he did then. Does it not follow that the retail profits must be higl.er? If they had the same amount of trade and the same degree ,f competition that they had, and no more, the retail pro fits must be higher ; but they 'have so many bad d e bts, tnd so much competition, and such diminished sales, that I consider they are doing worse now than ever they did. Is not the effect of competition always to r, duce profits? —Competition must have the effect of keeping down profits to a healthy level. If, therefore, retail profits have not been reduced, must not the persons engaged in the retail trade have been, ❑pots _ . the who!e, more prosperous than they formerly were?---I {link their profits have been reduced, but not so ten ibly he manufacturers', because they do not hold dead stock in the same way. I have stated ° before that retail tradesmen vere never so distressed as they are now. Do you think that anything that alters the present dis tribution of the income of the country would be injurious? —I do not mean to say that, but to say that anything that tnterrupts the social machinery that is now in work would produce a sudden mischief, which could not Le counter- ialAnced by the prospective benefits two three years hence. Must not any depreciation of the currency produce :hat?--I think it would be beneficial in every way, and to all classes ; to the creditor, in making those debts good which are now bad ; and beneficial to the debtor, in en tbling him to pay debts which be cannot now pay with out destruction. Experience proved this in 1817 and 1818, and in 1824 and 1825. What precise alterations in the laws relating t., tl.e currency would you think advisable ?—I sli, ul l wis'i ex a•eedingly to recommend a silver standard. Du you mean exclusive of the gold, or in addition 2-1 ,vould make silver the only standard, and let gold fin I its .12,i0; then 1 woul I recommend strongly to increase the