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I ,: ~- .~~ v strie E r i, pojk-fc:jl , • 4'4 ) A 9/ WI9R, //2 07,' 0110 311 . 4 - , I U , 11'4, 4,1 Mr. 501. ; th e )01. ; 'ork, ( • d a tocr 1-1 - J y/ shop y for lory) 301 NUMBER 92681 THURSDAY, MAY 9, 1822. PRICE SEVENPENCE. feet- I be 'mu- fie ssrs. :h he ()lent. ed to. ; and ;t ad- . ative t the and-, of aum- Id be ro 0 41 ` L,inson l (Re' rs. 11'-' Con' d Aed bf s re3a inistO i ns re- 22 t 1 W Chap ein o f jcstY 3 ervines an ishaP• Afar ' ~ .. -- -- etO g " . ~n Y nme ess of :on- Us El' . 179:'0n1, rect i . r ; ! . CC I ! C ,eCttC . t° of' ) 11 ' _ gt a,ibira 0 511°P a n, )13' ~tf ~, South Sea House, Btll May, lEitt. THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the R.. - co SOUTH SEA Kive N Tat a GENE URT of the said COMPANY COMPANY o tice, will be h held at this „ 0, 1 on FRIDAY next, the 10th inst., at One o'Clock pre sii,lYMott SPECIAL AFFAIRS. N. SIMPSON, Secretary. CITY OF LONDON TAVERN, MAY 7, 1822. AT a MEE T 1 N G of MERCHANTS, Vvkertis BANKERS, and Others, convened this day by Public ernent, T HOMAS WILSON, Esq. M.P. in the Chair, zed by T HOMAS R EID Esq. M.P. ; ti le • b led, That a General' Subscription be now begun for mediate assistance of the extreme temporary Distress of Provinces or Districts of Ireland. t h'D'ied by Jou x SMITH, Esq. ALP. and Resolved, That l ecr under-m entione d Gent l emen f orm a Committee for the col ion their application of the Sums subscribed, with liberty to their number : 9 ENT LEMEN ADDED T O THE GENERAL COMMITTEE.' J• Lubbock '•b . 43} o . ' Th ornton, Esq. John Smith, Esq M.P. Thomas Barnewall, Esq. Jo • Raney, E sq. M. M'Namara, BK. T n L eu J,, John • 841 * William Bell, Esq. t d —son, jun. Esq. M. Troy, Esq. . j os wa ii rd Stewart, Esq. J. W. Buckle, Esq. J °9 ' Du pre Alexander, Esq. Jeremiah Harman, Esq. rattison, Esq. W. Vaughan, Esq. „ Raikes, Esq. P. Grenfell, E. j• o t k -r.d ward Osborne Mr. Alderman Venables., Guthrie, Esq. -. " l4( "unt of Subscriptions already advertised...Xs,l9s 10 6. td, A D DITIO N A L SUBSCRIPTIONS. h..: Stewart, E. 10 0 0 Chas. Coles, Esq. 6 5 0 r i l• E. and J. R. - 2 0 0 art 10 0 0 Grocers' Company 200 0 0 j7 ti is Rivaz, Esq. 5 5 0 W. 0. Hunt, Esq. 3 3 0 F- - 10 0 Tunes Journal 50 0 0 - - 1 0 0 J. D. 5 0 0 J, t i r - ‘• Rigby - 10 0 Lubbock, Forster, & Un - - 10 0 Co. 100 0 0 Di tto °l en 15 0 0 Harris,Sanderson, & Ditt o • - 05 0 Co. 100 0 0 - 10 0 0 R. Womersby, Esq. 6 0 0 ,Sraith - 11 0 Lord Bp. of Ossory 100 0 0 —a z Bishop of Lon- W. Gilpin, jun. Esq. - 100 0 0 & Co. . 10 10 0 c o Owen. Esq. 10 0 0 Sir R. Preston, Bt. 21 0 0 .I.6: ' SauMerez, R.N. 2 2 0 Samuel Mills, Esq. 10 10 0 w..,;Proingh am , E & sq. 1 0 0 T.S. RL n. J. C. Villiers 50 0 0 41141 P al eo erciv , H Rice, Esq. M.P. 50 0 0 W. v 100 0 0 Royal Exchange, per „enables, Esq. 10 10 0 31r. Bainbridge 315 0 0 V. 4.1 W. Long 10 10 0 T. Roberts, Esq. 31 10 0 Mai. Peters, lln.E.lndiaComp. 500 0 0 Isi4 c - 100 00 T. Courtney &Son 10 0 0 1_ Denison, Esq.loo 0 0 Kembles & Light 21 0 0 td Mountcharles 50 0 0 W. Holden, Esq. 50 0 ur r t C• Fead 3 0 0 F ra n. Oxley, Esq. 1 1 0 `6 ll tbread & Co. 100 0 0 Mr. Chas. Holmes 2 2 0 1 1 * 3 ., Hunter, Esq. 10 0 0 N. Cannop, jun. Esq. 5 0 0 p• A sYrue, Esq. 21 0 0 Mrs. N. Connop 5 0 0 4!,..8t John White 21 0 0 J. R. &B. Williams 1 0 0 0 es " c tl Bagster, c o. 5 H. Doherty, Esq. -1 0 0 21 0. 0 W. 0. Hunt, Esq. 12 2 0 1 41 . Afeyrick, Esq. 5 0 0 Anonymous 25 0 0 j . tk Walker„ Esq. 10 10 0 Edw. Lee, Esq. 20 0 0 blak es l e y, Esq. 220 W. Davis, Esq. 50 0 J . vt‘ewton & Co. 10 10 0 John Coope, Esq. 5 0 0 4 4 ' . Alexander, Esq.s2 10 0 Chas. Baldwin, Esq: 10 10 0 Page, Esq. 10 0 0 W. Gernon, Esq. 5' 5 0 e tson, in the House Styan, Sons, and u f —undell Bridge Bishop - 21 0 0 ti od 7 2 6 Alderman Garratt 21 0 0 POOL& Co. 30 0 0 Capt. Feade, R.N. 2 0 0 J,h l4 Manchester 4 0 0 Capt. Pac.kwood,R.N. 2 0 0 Iv o : French, Esq. 5 5 0 Lieut. W. E. Fiotte 1' 0 0 11;eratt, Esq. 10 0 0 Snow and Paul 100 0 0 h tirk I:,__Kin K , Esq. 20 0 0 Lord Courtenay, by 'LW `'"ng, Esq. 20 0 0 his Trustees, per c o el . l , Harrison, & Snow & Paul 300 0 0 Il t S u 5 5 u v i b. eriptions will be receiv 0 by Smith, Payne and Smiths; et lto k Tritton, and Co. ; Spooner, Attwoods, and Co . ; iauet and Co. ; Sir John Perring and Co. ; Coutts and Then and Co. ; Birch, Chambers, and Co. ; and by Bankers of London ' and Westminster. e Committee will meet at the City of London Tavern ~....):24kl!leven for Twelve. OAK BARK. to 4 , DEAN FOREST. GLOUCESTERSHIRE. s i t,OLD by AUCTION, by Order of the Right Honour is 4 , Ab e , WILLIAM HUSKISSON, WILLIAM DACRES si oti 'M and HENRY DAWKINS, Esquires, Commis 44Crs of His Majesty's• Woods, Forests, and Land Re . re . - Isztd, 1 43 , RICHD. WHITE and Son, at the BEAR INN, 11, t , 'NHAM, on WEDNESDAY, the 15th of May, 182 4 , ii w een the holies of Twelve and Two. in several Lots. , . 4 IE BARK of 120 S OAK TIMBER pp „ii , ~,,YREEs, anihorised by the Lords Commis sioners . of okyy , "JeolY i s Treasury to he felled for the service of the o ,A1 d : 1 1 for sale within the said Forest. r 7fl s abort 40 TONS of COPPICE BARK, lying in the vt ow of the High Meadow Estate, the property of th e Q 4 b;' adjoiniog the said Forest, called Lady Hill and the IQ ; „ boo ' "iew of the Lots in the Forest, apply to Mr Due fla td: Assistant DeputyStorveyor, Ellwood Farm, near Cole -4411 o r to the Keepers and Woodmen of the said Forest ; of li ra' _ t!)at on the High Meadow Estate, to Mr. Turnbull , ' 1. `44.1 ' 4 iSLE SIXiAlt PLANTATIONS in the ISLAND of GRENADA. II), Ir. TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, 40, „ L t ,LIFCHILD, by Order of the Assignees of Messrs. T. 14 2 ,, 1 "'"-r , RO and Co. On TUESDAY, the 4th of JUNE, Lo n — do ' n at Twelve o'Clock, at the AUCTION MART, 41:1;those TWO Valuable and Productive 4 114 1 , 41 Alt ESTAI'Es or PLANTATIONS, called TIVOL . I , s 4 Pdr e s „; 4 ° l- IN'S, advantageously situate in the Parish of St. 706"; in the Island of GRENADA, containing upwards ece rs together with the Valuable Gangs of Slaves, P ti lt il „tile Live and Dead Stock thereon. L'escriptiv e Particulars may be had of Mr. Hoyes and , " nogNe Gun Mourn, in Grenada; at the Counting ailea of the Assignees, 2. Lawrence Pountney-lane; of i ir ;s• Lamb and Co. Solicitors. 26, Prince:s•street, Bank 404, 11 / 4 1, 41: at the Secretary's Office, Auction Mart, Lon -41 . f W. L h'ld L d Surveyor , &c. Enfield, Mid ...Z.:et. ° , blz--.....„, - " I ; t't SALE of the ASPEDEN ES FATE, near BUN TINGFOItD. HERTS. 1 / 7 IV . T TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, 110 i ~,'EIPCIIILD, by Older of the Assignees of Messrs- IR ''''-'Elto and Co. on WEDNESDAY, the 29th of MA Y, t- 1 9 , at Twelve o'Clock at the BELL INN. BUNTI NG . . tl i -4 ,, 13, in such Parts Lid Parcels as will he specified in co n t r a a e r t i . c u o f ci ,, f . S t p p ! slim e d P. t• . —(unlcss previously disposed of by 'itate p- r ;id) doe Notice will he given 0 lIE LIFE ESTATE of MR. CHARLES !Ate BO LDER°, aged 64, o f and in TWO Valuable and rAllnkait MANORS, a Capital MANSION-HOUSE . and sit 4, : ,, and several FRI , .EHOLD and COPYHOLD LANDN le y, "e in the several Parishes of Asneden, Laystone, Yard, ‘,,,,l: t 'd Clothall, i n t h e C ounty of H erts, conta i n i ng i n t h e s od u, ab °tlt 1200 Acres of fine Meadow, Arable, Pasture, (1 L.and. i t faII_W;. LeifFli•ild respectfully informs the Puhlic . , that I n t! p krt Y uthorised either to Sell or Let the whole or a y tr eat , the Propert during the Life of Mr. C. Bolder°, by n ,e Contract. Y k iii r t arti ewars ma be bad at the Secretary's O ffi ce, Auction sacintd:sLondon • } Bell,L. Buntingford ; Angel, Bury St. , Ed (ilet, I Rant, Newmaiket ; Sun, Cambriilge ; Three Cups, Arg is e l i t er; Bell, ( ielmsford ; Swan, Bedford ; Salisbury net, L'lssi fi eld; White Hart, St. Alban's ; Green Man, Bar- Of 1,.. 1 . bury Arms, Hertford ; Saracen's Head. Ware ; a nd . 41,4wex.1-eifehild, Land and Timber Surveyor, Enfield, Mid , IN, yi . al stth ew nig the Estates , app lication way be made to Mr. to ~,i ew Woodward at As , eden ; and Particulars and Tickets Ali elk e, the Mansion' House and Gardens may be had on ap %Net a un at the Office of 1 Lamb and Co. 26, Prince's - ' l l the Bank. Messl .. CATALOGUE OF FOREIGN NIUqC, BOOSEY and CO. IMPORTERS and • PUBLISHERS of FOREIGN MUSIC, 23, Holies street, Oxford-street, respectfully inform the• Nobility and Public that they have this day published (in one thick volume, Bvo. containing upwards of 5000 Pieces) a COMPLETE CA TALOGUE of their extensive Stock of FOREIGN MUSlC,in chiding their ►eceut Importations from Germany, France, and Italy.—Fur the convenience of Purchasers, the Catalogue is divided into Separate Parts, viz.—Part I. Music for an Orchestra and Military Band.—Pact 11. Violin and Violon cello.—Part 111. Flute, Clarinette, and other Wind Instru ments.—Pact IV. Pianoforte, Harp, and Orgah.—And Part V. Vocal Music; also Works on the Theory and History of Music, &c. A Catalogue of T. Boosey & Co's. own Publica tions by Foreign Composers may be bad gratis. IMPERIAL TWINE CLOTH (,r &c. BY HIS MAJESTY'S LETTERS PATENT. Ne Continent pas de IM, mais possedent lea arremens. THE NOBILITY, FAMILIES, and MER CHANTS, are respectfully informed the above desir able CLOTH, for promoting in the East and West Indies, as well as the cold Climates, the most healthful temperature, and for its economy, is sold exclusively, wholesale, for Ex portation, and by the Piece, at 611 --ss.—and Ss. 6d. per yard, stamped, " MILLARD'S Patent Twine, Cloth," &c. at the Warehouse, No. 16, Cheapside, and no where else whatever. The Pieces for Sheeting con tain from Two to Four Pair. Families in the country sending orders have them executed as if present, where the greatest variety of Foreign and British Goods are kept. BIBLES, TESTAMENTS, and PRAYER BOOKS, may be bad by the Public, at COST MICH.:, at the DEPOSITORY of the SOCIETY fur PRO MOTIN6 CHRISTIAN KNOWLEDGE, No. 21, Fleet street. The BOOKS and TRACTS on the CATALOGUE of the SOCIETY may be bad at RE duced Priers. Applications or Orders to be wade to J. Griffiths, 11, Flett•st rect. AGRICULTURE.—GARDENING. This Day was pnbli.hett, in 14mo. price 'M. THE COTTAGER'S AGRICULTURAL COMPANION, comprising a Complete System of Cot tage Agriculture, intended to instruct the Poor of Great Britain in the best Arts of Cottage Husbandry. By WILLIAM SALISBURY, Author of the Botanist's Companion, &c. &c. Also, by the same Author, The Cottager's Companion, or a Complete System of Cot. tage Horticulture, intended to instruct the Industrious Poor of Great Britain in the Art of Cottage Gardening. Second Edition, Plow. Is. 6d. Printed for F. C. and J. Rivington, No. 62, St. Paul's Churchyard : and 3, Waterloo-place, Pall-Mall. In the Press. and will speedily he published, in lIORTUS ANGLICUS, or Modern Eng lish Garden ; containing an easy description of all Plants which are cultivated in the Climate of South Britain, either for use or ornament ; and of a Selection from the esta blished favourites of the Stone and Green-house : arranged according to the system of Linnans, including his Generic and Specific Characters; with Remarks on the Properties of the more valuable species. By the AUTHOR of the BRITISH BOTANIST. .. Blossoms and fruits at once of golden hue Appear'd with gay rnamell'd colours • MILTON. Printed for F. C. and .1. Rivington, 62, St. Paul's Church.: yard ; and 3, Waterloo place, Pall-Mall. JENKS'S DEVOTIONS, IMPROVED by SIMEI IN. This Day was published, in bvn, price fis. in hoards, and in 12mo pi ice 4s. 6.1. bound, thefinurtETH EDITION' of ',RAN ERS and OFFICES of DEVOTION for FAMILIES, and for particular Persons upon most Occasions. By BENJAMIN JENKS, Late Rector of Harley in Shropshire. and Chaplain to the Right Hon. the Earl of Bradford. Altered and Improved by the Rev. Charl e s si meo n, F e ll ow of King's College, Caniffridge. Printed fur F. C. sod J. Itivington ; Seatcherd & Co.; Long man Sc Co.; J. Richardson; J. Mawrnan ; R. Seholey; Ravin & Son ; Baldwin & Co ; Ocle & Co. ; .1. Hamilton ; G. & W. B. Whittaker; E. Edwards; J. Robinson; Siwpkin & Mar shall ; and J. Nisbet. PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 8. The Excise License Bill was read a third time, and passed.—The Linen Bounty Bill, the Scotch Malt Duty Bill, and the Scotch Creditors' Bill were read a second time.—The Countervailing Malt Duties' Bill was committed.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MISCELLANEOUS. Sir R. SHAW presented a petition from the Hotel-keepers of Dublin against the Window tax levied by the Police of that city.—Laid on the table. Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition from the Owners and Occupiers of Land in the county of Oxford, expressing surprise and dismay at the proposition of Mr. Ricardo, relative to Fo reign Corn.—Ordered to be printed. The same Honourable. Member presented two similar peti tions from different parts of the counties of Dorset and Essex.— These were ordered to be printed. Sir J. NEWPORT presented a petition from the Woollen Manufacturers of Carrick, against the repeal or modification of the Act relative to the importation of Foreign Wool. Mr. C. HUTCHINSON expressed a hope that no measure which might be introduced by Ministers would injure those Irish Manufacturers who, upon the faith of the existing laws, had embarked large capitals in this trade. Mr. WALLACE observed, that some modification of the existing laws was intended, but care would be taken to pro tect the interests of the persons alluded to by the Honourable M ember. Mr. Alderman WOOD gave notice, that he would on Friday move for the production of the book or books which had bent kept in Ilchester Gaol, since the appointment of Bridle as gaoler. CRIMINAL LAW. Mr. W. CHILD presented a petition from certain inhabi tants of Shropshire, praying for an alteration of the Criminal Law.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. F. BUXTON, on the part of Sir J. Macintosh, post. poned the motion on the Criminal Law until Tuesday the 4th of June. Lord F. OSBORNE presented a petition from the inhabi tants of the town of Cambridge, praying for the revisior. of the Criminal Laws.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. COURTENAY moved for and obtained leave to bring in a Bill to consolidate and amend thelaws relative to prisons. Mr. LAWLEY presented two petitions from Owners and Occupiers of Land in the county of Warwick against Mr. Ri cardo's propositions, at which, as usual, they expressed their Surprise and dismay, Mr. CREEVEY moved fora return of c. copy of the appoint ment of the Clerk of the Pells.—Ordered. CORRESPONDENCE BETWEE'N GOVERNMENT AND THE BANK. Mr. GRENFELL expressed his surprise that it should be necessary for him now, for the third time, to inquire whether the eopy of the correspondence which had passed between the Government and the Bank relative to the renewal of its charter, which had on Friday last been ordered to be laid before the House, was yet ready to be produced. He had seen in a news paper a letter from the Earl of Liverpool to the Governors of the Bank ; if the correspondence were of such a limited nature, he could conceive no reason why it should be so long withheld. He asked the lion. Secretary to the Treasury whe ther the correspondence would be laid before the House ? if he should receive a negative answer he would then move that it be produced forthwith. 34r. LUSLIINGTON replied, that be bad not yet had aA opportunity of inquiring of the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the papers would be ready to be laid before the House. Mr. GRENFELL then moved that the correspondence be produced forthwith. Mr. LUSH INGTON thought the Honourable Gentleman had better wait till the Chancellor of the Exchequer should be present ; he would be able to state the reason why copies of the correspondence had not been yet prepared. He (Mr. Lushington) was sure that there was no disposition on the part of Ministers to withhold or delay the production of the papers in question. , Mr. BROUGHAM said the House ought not, on the pre sent occasion, to wait for the presence of any Member. The delay which had already taken place in producing the papers was a contempt of the House ; and it was quite a matter of course, under such circumstances, to move that they be pro ducedforthwith. After an observation from Sir J. NEWPORT, the motion was agreed to. NAVIGATION LAWS. Sir. M. W. RIDLE V gave notice that when the Naviga tion Bill should come under consideration, he would propose a clause for repealing the Is. tonnage duty on IVtish Shipping homeward and outward bound. The Honeumble Baronet afterwards stated that his clause would apply to tonnage duty generally. Sir It. HERON withdrew his notice of motion for leave to bring in a Bill respecting the Settlement of the Poor, and post 'poned it till next Session. A Message from the Lords announced to the House that several Bills of a private nature had received their Lords'aips' assent. MISREPRESENTATION. Mr. HUME said, that in consequence of a misrepresentation having gone forward to the country of what had fallen from him yesterday when moving for certain papers, he thought it right to correct it. It would be in the recollection of the House that he had moved for a return of the several sums paid to the news papers of Great Britain for proclamations, paid from the public offices by public money. In doing so be had abstained from inquiry into the private circumstances or transactions of any newspaper. The motion had no connection with any such transactions. So far from feeling offended with the observations or animadversions of newspapers, he had not the slightest objec, tion to them. He considered the conduct of a public man to be public property. He came forward as a candidate for public approbation, and if his pretensions were feeble, it was right that the public should be advised to place no confidence in such a man. These were his sentiments, and therefore as far as it re garded himself he never should complain of any such animad versions. But if instead of stating what really occurred, a news paper writer verged into the regions of fiction, it was quite right that he should be summoned back to the duties of his own proper station—that he should be compelled, if he pretended to detail what occurred there or elsewhere, to confine himself to the strict truth. Now the nature of the communication ad dressed to him rested upon false premises. The whole article was false as far as it regarded him. In a paper called The Morning Chronicle, 'though remarkable for the fidelity and general correctness of its reports, there were on that very morn ing the following observations : " 'We take this opportunity of addressing a word or t yr) to Mr. Hume.—How does he know that' The Times New!, , ,aper publishes more than any other two papers in England ? How ever deeply he may be versed in the concerns of The Times Newspaper, lie may not be equally so in that of each of the others, and at all events the public would not have thought less of his judgment, if he had not laid claim to any such minute knowledge.—His argument certainly did not require that he should ; and as The Times takes special care, from time to time, that the world shall know how prosperous they are, it was hard ly necessary for him to, come forward in Parliament to back their affidavits. 4 For the sake of other papers of which the rank and charac ter may be less firmly established than our own, and which could not with equal safety approach such a subject, we have , to, observe, that Ministers have been guilty of an evident dere liction of duty in not objecting to the unwarrantable Returns respecting Newspapers, moved for by Mr. Hume. No principle can be more clear than this that the knowledge of the private concerns of individuals, which the law'giyes to Government for the purposes of Revenue, ought never to be made use of to the injury of those individuals in the way of their business. If the Income tax had been in vigour, Mr. Hume might with as much propriety have moved for a Return of the Income of any indi vidual with whom Government had contracted, or might enter into a contract, on the ground of thereby obtaining matter of crimination against Ministers. " We will deal frankly with Mr. Hume. We would advise him once for all to let Newspapers alone, if he wishes to render his labours serviceable to the public. 'We have reported his statement as he delivered it, because we never allow ourselves to garble or intentionally to disfigure speeches delivered either in Parliament or elsewhere. , We could refer him, however, by way of contrast (to take one out of many instances,) to a speech of his own on the 27th February, in which his compliment to a certain Morning Paper which he named is carefully garbled in a certain other Morning Paper, which we shall not name ; a circumstance which those who have a feeling for more than sums and numbers will know how to appreciate." It was not his intention to complain of this attack, which pro ceeded upon nothing which he had said, but he noticedit for the purpose of preventing such gross mis-statements from going forth to the public puL.. . STAMP ACT AMENDMENT BILL. The House went into a Committee upon this Bill, and the Report having been brought up, it was ordered to be received to-morrow. ROYAL BURGHS ACCOUNTS BILL, The further amendment of the Report of thiS Bill—the second reading of the SheritiV Depute Bill, and the second reading of the Scottish Commissary Courts' Bill, were post poned until Tuesday next. SEDITIOUS MEETINGS. - Mr. LENNA RD said, that though he was not in the House last night, yet understanding that a very general feeling then existed on the propriety of postponing till a future day his mo tion to repeal an Act, 60 0. 111. chap. 6, for more effectually preventing Seditious Meetings and Assemblies, he would wil lingly yield to that feeling by consenting to put off his motion to Thursday the 30th of this month. PUBLIC HOUSES. Mr. BENNET gave notice, that on Friday next he should move for leave to bring in a Bill far altering the system of li censing Public Houses. AGRICULTURAL REPORT. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved the Order of the Day on the adjourned debate upon the Report of the Alricul tural Committee. On the question being put " that the Speaker do leave the Chair," Mr. WY VILL rose, and said, he was satisfied the country would be na longer deluded by the Noble Marquis opposite, and he trusted the House would also begin to resist the effects of that delusion. He (Mr. W.) felt assured ther2 were but two modes of relieving the distresses of the country : one by repealing the Act generally called Mr. Peel's Bill; the other by a considerable reduction of taxation. The first lie should oppose, because they had proceeded too far in that measure to retrace their steps ; but a reduction of taxes was called for from one end of the country to the other. A reduction of twenty millions in annual amount ought to take place imme diately ; and even of this only ten millions, he thought, would be saved to the Agricultural Interest. All the Resolutions proposed in the Committee he considered as of no avail what ever, and he should therefore at once move as an Amend ment, a Resolution " That. it is the opinion of this House that the only effectual relief which can be provided for the Agri cultural Interest will be in a large remission of taxation." Mr. LOCKHART opposed the motion. A reduction of taxes would, in his opinion, be tantamount to a breach of na tional faith : for with such a reduction, it would be impossible to pay the interest of the national debt. No one Petition from the Agricultural classes went the length of this motion of the Hon. Member; and he (Mr. L.) for one should oppose it. The distress should be relieved ; but he did not approve of such a relief as that suggested by the present motion. He had heard the distress ascribed to a superabundant produce; but of this he was not satisfied. The motion appeared to owe its origin to the early sales of corn at low prices; but if lie (Mr. L.) were to see in a pawnbroker's shop an unusual quantity of wearing apparel, he should not therefore believe that there was a superabundance of that article (a laugh), though, assuredly, he should believe that the consumers were distressed. But, whatever was the cause of the distress, he conceived the pro position of the Hon. Member for Portarlington was altogether unsound. It would have the effect of throwing much of the poor lands out of cultivation ; a measure so destructive to thou interested in it, that had he not known the amiable dispo. sitio i of that Hon. Member, he should be disposed to question his notives. The persons engaged in the cultivation of these lands could not successfully look for employment in any other dire aion, as manufactures were already overstocked. The number too of these persons would be very considerable ; for there were large tracts of poor land all over the country ; especially in the Counties of Norfolk, Bucks, Cambridge, Huntingdon, Oxford, and Gloucester. There would be con siderable danger to be apprehended from those persons thus brought to distress by acts of the Legislature. But, at all events, it was not to a reduction of taxation that they looked for relief. It was to protecting duties; and on this part of the subject he was glad to find that the Noble Marquis himself thought a provision should be made against sudden and strong competition in the market. To p rocee d on this basis, the House should satisfy itself on two points. The first was, the price of corn, generally, at Dantzic and other Northern places. He was here much surprized to find that the evidence of Mr. Solly stated the average price at from 43 to 48s. This he conceived could not be a fair average ; as he was satisfied the general price on an average was not more than 235. The Noble Mar quis thought that on this part of the subject a trifling variance was of no great or particular consequence; but surely the Noble Marquis was not at this moment to be informed that a shil ling difference in the bushel of wheat made a difference amount ing to the whole rental of the kingdom, The mistake of a shil. ling only would therefore drive the English grower out of the field. The second point to ascertain was the amount of pro tecting duty. This also would depend on the average price at Dantzic and other Northern places. He had already stated his belief that this average was 235.; but he would take it even at 30s. Allowing, then, ss. for profit, ss. for freight, and 15s. for duty (instead of the 12s. proposed by the Noble Marquis), this would. make 555. only ; and yet a Resolution proposed by the Noble Marquis himself admitted that the English grower could not sell at less than 70s. The English grower must therefore come down to the price of the foreigner or not sell at all. He (Mr. Lockhart) only wanted protection for the English farmer; no matter whether it was caused by a duty of ss. or by one bf 50s. It was indifferent to him at what price he sold, provided he could be ensured from the competition of the foreigner. And here he could not but express his surprise that the Agricultural Committee had not noticed the Petitions for protecting duties on other articles of the soil besides corn. This, he thought, ought to haVe been adverted to by the Committee in some way or other. As to the Agricultural classes being able to pay the taxes, and support themselves under the accumulation of evils under which they lahoured, was what, in the language of the Petitioners, they were unable to do, not from want of inclina tion, but from want of means, unless they were relieved from the pressure of distress. Lord ALTHORP spoke against the amendment. He begged, however, to be understood as thinking that the prose cution of the inquiry would not afford any relief whatever to the suffering agriculturist. His only reason, therefore, for wishing that inquiry to go on was, that he expected it would terminate in the abolition of the Corn Laws in their present form. But although he agreed in the motion for renewing the discussion on the Resolution which formed the subject of last night's debate, he should not vote for it. Mr. MONCK said, he would vote for the Resolution, be cause he thought something of the kind should be done to re lieve the agricultural distress. lie had heard a great deal about low prices ; but what were the prices on the Continent ? Bread in Ii ranee and Switzerland was one penny per pound, and in this country it was twopence, being 100 per cent,higher, and yet Gentlemen were found with the bonus of the Corn Laws to wish for higher duties on importation. The fact was, that nothing could be done without a general reduction of taxa tion. 'Before the last war, 1792, the price was 445. a quarter of corn, and previously to the American war it was 425. ; and after it was declared 465. Thus they had a period of twenty seven years before 1792, shewing that the prices were mostly lower, never higher, and scarcely ever ,equal to what they were now. This, however, was nothing surprising, when it was considered that in those times the whole expenditure of the country was twenty millions, whereas it was now seventy millions. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had changed places with the Landlord of former times, taking that rent from the landlord which he then took from the tenant, but which he could not now get. 'There w;.s this remarkable re sult, however, from the change, that what the Chancellor of the Exchequer took in the shape of rent never returned, whereas what the landlord took returned through the same channels by which it came to him. But they were told that taxation did not procure the distress, because it was said, there was agricultural distress in Switzerland, where there were no taxes, comparatively speaking. Never was there a more unfortunate illustration than this ; for it was a fact that no distress prevailed in that country except where there existed heavy mortgages. It was the tendency of the law prevailing in that country which stood opposed to the law of primogeni ture, to create these InOttgages ; but with that exception he knew that the whole country was in a most thriving state. They were not burthened with taxation, and nothing but re lief from that would relieve this country. Sir. It. NV ILSON assured the House that he had not hitherto remained silent on this momentous question of agricultural dis tress from any want of sympathy in that distress; but from the hope that Hon. Gentlemen would see the fallacy of attempting to relieve that distress by partial measures. Finding, how ever, that his abstaining from exciting opposition had not the effect he wished, but that measures having a tendency to raise the quartern loaf to a half a crown and three shillings were se riously advocated in the House, he felt himself called upon to declare his sentiments. Ile always thought the system of corn laws bad. The Hon. Member for Portarlington thought they ought to abandon them, although the Right Hon. President of the Board of Trade was of a different opinion. They tended to strengthen the hands of a coercive Government, and he had been sufficiently the victim of such a system of governing, ' to be averse from increasing the action of one. The remis sion of taxation was the only effectual mode of administering relief. Of the truth of this, France furnished an example.-- He had frequently conversed with the peasantry of that country lately, and lie found that almost all of them were able to sit down to three and four meals a day. There was nothing ex traordinary in this, when they considered that in 30 millions of people, France was taxed no more than 34 millions, exclusive of her sinking fund, being not more than 11. sterling a-head. This country, with a population of seventeen millions, support. ed a taxation to the amount of upwards of sixty millions, being at the rate of four pounds a man. He wished that faith should be kept with the public creditor, but he was convinced that by a revision of the Civil List, and of the general expenditure of the country, ten millions of taxes might be taken off. He knew it was impossible to come down to the level of France, hut they should approximate as far, as possible. He thought they were ip a state of danger, from the warehousing system. It was well known that it was storing up of corn that was the incipient cause of the French Revolution. For the reasons he had stated, he should certainly vote for the Resolution before the House. _ Mr. GURNEY made a few observations in a low tone of voice. He was understood to express' his apprehension that I the measures propos :d for the relief of agriculture would be productive of more harm than good, if adopted in their present shape. He thought that much might be done by getting rid of oppressive and vexatious taxes, and substituting (where a substitute was necessary) others less liable to bear with undue weight upon the labouring classes. He remarked, that great distress was represented to prevail in Ireland, and it would seem that speculators there had exported all their corn to Eng land for money, and left the poor people to starve. There was great difficulty in practically applying the theories which were founded upon the change in the value of money. The present price of corn was 46s.—it was 100 s. before the depreciation of the currency ; but the calculators ought to take into account how many more grains of pure silver were in the 100 s. of de preciated money, than in the 10s. now of a purer standard. In the alteration which had taken place, and the effect that fol lowed, he thought neither Ministers nor die House were to blame • but on the present occasion it became them to act with great deliberation and caution.—(Hear !) 31r. WESTERN gave his most decided support to the pro position that the removal of taxation alone could afford relief. But in order to accomplish that reduction of the burdens of taxation, they must look to the removal of that Act of Parlia ment, which had aggravated at least 40 per cent. the already oppressive taxation of the country. He apprehended they must look to that as the main cause of the singular state of diffi culty, in which the agricultural and all the other industrious classes of the community were now placed. Until they had fully and fairly grappled with that measure, these subjects raative to the Resolutions were waste of time—a diversion of the attention of the Legislature and the public from the real object which called for their immediate consideration.—(Hear, hear !)—They talked about price ; but what mattered the price of commodities, so long as the question of the price of money remained tuusettled ?-411ear 1)—It was to that they must first direct their attention, whilst the question of. the amount or sta ture of the import duty of corn was absolutely wandering in die dark. To the proposition of his.,Hon. Friend he should give his most decided support. When the Noble Marquis opposite talked about the price of corn in foreigrf markets, Dantzii for instance, it was the price of Mark-lane in reality that ,he quoted. Brit even if the standard -of currency should remain at what it now is, what a fallacy it was to attempt to calculate the prices of 25 years past, without including in the eaktll.l-- don the difference in the value of money. In discussing theoe subjects, it should always be considered that the money price of-corn meant one thing, and the labour, or real price, another. It was a proposition that he was prepared to maintain, that the higher the price of corn, the lighter were the burthens of the country. Their interest was, to make the real price of a commodity as low as possible ; and he only wished to. raise the price of corn, by lowering the prim of money: By raisingthe money-price ofa commodity, the weight of taxation witajowered, and the real price of labour reduced. When Hon. aledihers, therefore, talked of price, they ought to have a clear conception of what it meant. Above all, It was most desirable in a country to beat dOitn as low as possible the real price of corn. It operated prejudicially on the lowerclasses when it was high ' and therefore on the country. No one could think that it was good for the country to enhance the prices of the necessaries of life to the people. The time was not far dis tant when the House would take into its consideration the sub. jeer of the Act of 1819, which changed the standard of the value of money. He hoped that a metallic standard would be adapted consistent with the substance of all the compacts and transac tions of the 25 years that they had departed from 'the ancient standard. It should have been seen that, after so long a depar ture, it was not possible to return to the ancient standard. It would be difficult, no doubt, to discover the exactstandard which should represent all the bargains and engagements entered into during that 25 years. It was a matter of delicacy, and required the maturest deliberation. The Hon. Member then adverted to the subject of the laws which should regulate the importa tion of ,foreign corn. "He distinctly declared that he did not wish to obstruct the importation of foreign corn when symptoms of a necessity for it should appear. But he would take the average of the last 20 years, and with that would have no ob jection to it. All he wanted was that it should be so regulated as not to overwhelm British Agriculture. He contended that on political grounds it was dangerous to favour a system which made us dependent on foreign countries for the necessities of life. There might be good grounds in other points of view for encouraging the traffic of British manufactures for foreign corn, but he could never reconcile it to his mind, upon political grounds, to place reliince upon foreign supply for any oonsi derable portion of the food of the people. This country, if that were the case, would have no security of her being able to maintain the rank she had hitherto held among . the other na tions of the world. With regard to the motion before the House, he thought it an extremely judicious motion, and should give it his support. Mr. PEEL said, he did not then rise to enter into the sub ject of the particUlar motion before the House, he rose to ad vert to the observations made by the Hon. Member for Essex (Mr. Western), relative to a Bill which had been introduced by him at the desire of the Committee of 1819, for' restoring the standard of currency. He wished to know if he was to understand that the Honourable Gentleman opposite intended to bring that question under the particular consideration of the House ? • Mr. WESTERN. Certainly. Mr. PEEL.—Then certainly all he should say on tile sub ject at present was, that he would abstain from offering any answer to what the Hon. Gentleman had gone into. The Hon. Gentleman he was sure would agree with him that it- was a subject of such immense importance, involving so many in terests, that it ought to be reserved for a separate discussion, and not be mixed up with a question not directly connected with it. lle hoped that the House too would approach if with a full sense of its importance. Notwithstanding all that had been said upon it, he must say that he had heard nothing which impressed his mind with the propriety of unsettling all the compacts and arrangements that had been entered into upon the faith of that Act. Neither the propositibn of the Hon. Member for Portarlington, for substituting a standard founded on the price of corn, nor that of the Hon. Member for Essex (Mr. Western) for substituting a standard founded on all the contracts which had been entered into since the commencement of the late war, had tended to alter his opinion and diminish in his mind the immense importance of the subject. lf, as was maintained by some, the operation of the Act was to be dated from the year 1816, any change would tend to unsettle'all the contracts from that period, and that deserved to be - regarded as well as those of the twenty-five years preceding. When the Honourable Member informed them that this measure had increased the weight of taxation in the ratio of fort . ) , per cent., he must say that the resources of. the country appeared to him from this extraordinary circumstance to be of greater extent than ever he knew them before, seeing that they had, under such an increase of burden, a still increasing revenue. —(Hear, hear !) Mr. WILLIAMS said, that feeling that the motion of his Honourable Friend was calculated not to withhold, but to give relief, he felt it his duty to support it, and shortly to state his reasons. What, he would ask, was the language of the Peti tions under which the table groaned ? What did they ask for ? Not for a distant remedy—not for remote relief—for a regula tion of the Corn Laws; which might or might not affect the rising generation, when the present cultivators should be swept away ;—(Hear, hear !)—but the language of the'Peti tioners was without any exception, that they should receive im mediate relief, or die.—(Hear !)—What to them was the pro position of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, which might be brought into operation in some years, or perhaps never ? What, then, he asked, was the plan to be adopted now thatthe plan of the Noble Lord had been disposed of, and after an at tempt of an Hon. Gentleman and an Honourable Baronet, not then in his place, if possible, to pronounce a panegyric upon ; and now that no other plan remained of a remedial aspect ? What was the situation of the House ?—it had nothing to pro pose; and, as the wisdom of the learned appeared deficient, they were bound to return to the plain, simple, homebred sense of the Petitioners. Such was the duty of the House— such, he hoped, was their inclination. He (Mr. W.) had not heard that the Petitioners sought for any other remedy than one of these two—a Reform in the House of Commons; the other a reduction of taxation. With respect to the first, after the decision which the House had recently come to, he would not at tempt to resume the discussion of it he had only to regret that it had not been in his power to have added his vote to the mi nority on that occasion. But, with respect to taxation, was there any person in that House prepared to contend that a re duction o f taxation would not have some effect, he was not called upon to state to what amount, in relieving the dis tresses of the country ? If the repeal of taxation would have only a small effect, still itwould be better than the proposal - of that House, which would have no effect at all. The repeal of the Tax upon Salt, the Tax upon Leather, or upon other articles of general use, would give some relief, but the proposal of that House would give no relief at all —would have no tendency, save to mislead the public opinion—to withdraw the attention of the country from the contemplation of its wretched state. Instead of attempting to mislead, lie thought it would begetter for the House, if they had no remedy, manfully and distinctly to avow it, and to state in the face of the country, that as the present case was of an unexampled nature, the wisdoms of Parliament really had no relief to offer. He hoped there was no man ready to say that there remained nothing for the House to do in the present state of the country. Was that a lesson which Ministers had yet to learn ? The present was a time, above all others, necessary to practice it, when the constituents of Gentlemen, at least of those who had the misfortune of having any— (A laugh)—were loud in their complaints, and when these Gentlemen could no longer re strain their remonstrances. That was the time when Parr a ment became saving of its supplies. But he would not then enter on that subject. lie could not, however, help observing that the Colonies alone afforded an ample field for reduction ; in his opi nion every Colony which did not bring a return for the Money expended on it, or that was not of paramount political necessity, ought to be abandoned. The reduction of taxation was certainly within the reach of that House—it was a remedy net distant. not speculative, but which would operate as an immediate prac tical relief. There was another point upon which he felt it ne cessary to say a word ;—if the distress of the Petitioners went to the extent described, the fact afforded the strongest argument for retrenchment—for a reduction in the receipts of all those persons who are paid out of the taxes Of the country—(Hear, hear !)--It was by no means a pleasant thing to touch upon ' such a topic, but they were not there upon pleasant business-- they were there to try whether it was possible to apply any remedy to a state of general, of melancholy and unexampled distresa ? Something a few nights since had' been said by an Hon. Mem ber respecting the opinions of the people of England—lanien cations wets made that that Houie were ontinuay falling in