The Sun. — London, England, 1853-08-09 00:00:00

MliMwf • ' feet the rued . - ng rdo w o. 3 , taxi ° of 1 " , , e tll 3 i n on e tinen t rrn ing; erpeol of the 9,41 beg oc a ~,_ ....., bee ri l aePriu3 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF COMMONS—(THIS DAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair shortly after 12 o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the West Cornwall Rail- WY - , and the Bayswater, Paddington, and Holborn bridge Railway Bills were considered and agreed to. Chaytor's Estate Bill was read a third time and passed. The reports upon the Pemberton Estate and East I ndian Railw a y Bills were considered and agreed to. The last bill was read a third time and passed. PETERBOROUGH ELECTION COMMITTEE. The members appointed to serve on this committee Were called to the table and sworn. They sit to-morrow at 11 o'clock. PETITIONS. !Vlr . HADFIELD p resen t e d two pe titi on s from York shire against the Government Education Bill. Mr. HEADLAM presented a petition from thepro /11,°ters, managers, a n d f r i en d s o f th e s y s tem of national e ut!" , tion in Irel an d, p raying th e h ouse to preserve its religious element. Mr. KINNAIRD presented a petition from all classes of Christians in India, against the grant to the temple of Juggernaut. HARWICH ELECTION. tThe SPEAKER said he had received an intimation hat it w as not intended to proceed with the pet i t i on gainst the return of Mr. Bagshaw for Harwich. b (21 4 the th e mot i on of an Hon. M EMBER , th e mem :l's of the committee were ordered to be discharged. ' 01 : 3 111 SEA AND OTHER ANNUITIES (PRO VISION FOR PAYMENT, &c.) BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. TRANSPORTATION BILL. The house then went committee on this bill, On clause 1, _ o l4 rd PALMERS TON sa id t h ere was no su bj ec t I T re diffic u l t and i mportant than the quest i on o f punish -4;ellt• In an earlier state of society crime produced in e minds of the community but one feeling—that of I:.esentment, and the object of punishment was simply yen siee,a.tilce every kind of suffering which human ingenuity jucladiixicfi ic t t h b e eing awarded to criminals ; but as civilisation p erea88 ( 1 ) and minor feelings prevailed in legislation and punishment of death was confined to a ea of tho inobt mei-ions and flagrant character, and b e e r " d arY punishment was adopted in the greater num hadf cases. The question of secondary punishments b always been one of extreme difficulty. It ought to be d on the offender, and ought to deter, by example, ti 8 committing similar crimes, but, at the same ale, there should be combined with it the principle of teefforin.ation. Hitherto, we had been enabled to dispose tra n sporting them to secondary punishment, by Bportmg them to our extensive colonies after first certain period of imprisonment at hoTe. were now, however under the necessity of altering system. The colonies to which persons were trans had now become thriving and wealthy communities, ti :°Be feelings led them to revolt against those places thlag made the receptacle for criminals, who were e med unfit to remain in the mother country. Whether e Y t were right or not it was not for him to say, but as e nad conceded to the colonies self-govern vent, we mustee submit to its consequence, and their refusal to re it le criminals would of itself compel us to alter the 133'es,teAtll• Independentlyof that, a great event had hap in those colonies which necessarily led to the 1.,-nTeulriderai ion of the existing system. When it turned b ut t hat those lands were places where wealth abounded, th' ° 'ld) perhaps, the imagination of man, and where likely xercise of a small amount of manual labour was tO create a sple n did fortune, it was quite clear they ea ,u not continue transportation to them any longer, be rev "e it w ou ld b e henceforth be looked upon as an actual ._ re instead of a punishment. The Government, there t)ok th e subject into their consideration, and they it determi ne d to discontinue transporta ti on , ex cept to ab s est ,ern Australia. Then rose the question as to what ve _aid be d one with the great b u lk o f cr i m i na ls who wal e l for the future not to be transported. It Proposed by the Government to give them at the (abrxPiration of e a certain period, a ticket of leave not to go 11„, a u, but t o rema i n h ere , i and though, then, set at L . O l h - a r t3 l , they would be l i a bl e to be called upon f the y tb; + ' lle t was not such as to warrant their remaining in eOndition. The great subject of reformation had not tthheettivtli.rioset sight of. The Government did not think a 8 by any means a hopeless object on consultation parties who had charge of this department, p ",,,,Lcmlid there would be means for giving these s e e e o p tia — ra u t s e e f tn ro p m loyment at wages on the public works convicss, thus placing them in this e , iltl Y in a similar situation to that which they had th e , -Ple d in the colonies. In this way he thought of " would smooth the passage from the condition Thljaricoe:viict to that of a free and honest labourer. at th of the Government would not entail any . cost on counties, because they would feel . it duty tc provide all the necessary accommodation any will Pnublic expense. The bill had not resulted from fo rced " particular views of the Government, but was it was " . t heta by the course of events, and he thought whi c h w a mede of meeting the altered circumstarces he as the least open to objection. In conclusion, stated it Public money, as effect a considerable saving of the as c minor he 'th transportation. IVA ri l ; P b ) °rPared " hdf 11 frea t t . l it n ,ene n rlll agreed In what aa en c tle Y inan, and suggested some _arri.tioa nillenchnents in gentleman, bill. The plan he had sketched Cut, would not merely abolish that which had been an on the colonies, but if vigorously and prudently ied out off enders. , would materially lead to the reformation of (LEFT SITTING.) PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (1? ROUSE OF COMMONS. — AUO. 8 . Commons. MM. the Votes and Proceeding. s of the House of ) her , CHARITABLE TRU STS 1 ,,,,,.., amendment proposed, in p. , 5T5 25 81 1 L . L 32 . , tion .‘, " Oxford" to insert the after tt, "That the word `and' r be there inserted:' —The word " and. Ques t ' lle .40 11 g, 65, divided ; Ayes Noes 70 .5. A.c.., MINORITY—AYES, 6 ~,,,,,, ,l trt, a Peel, F. .trley C. Graham, Sir J as. P e re J • William Percy, J. Aglionb ' Gregson, Samuel Pi4mtt, Francis likil, J 3 :,,, , H . Grenfell,C. Price, Sir R. 11 eth o l'n Hall, Sir Benjamin Sadleir, am .ti(*), ' a ir Richard Ileathcoate, Sir G. Rnssel, J Lord es John Ito, li, ir R. Herbert, Sidney Itolerie, L. P. Hervey, Lord A. Sadleir, J. Sawle, C. B. G. toYi l eli,, l4 e"ge Keogh, William Scobell, Captain — loil l ' e — ' 4l . Colonel Kinnaird, A. F. Ilrow u n oh, Joseph Langton, H. G. Scully, F. trti ek e , valentine Locke, J. Shelley, Sir J. V. Aduil ei ; Lord R. L owe , Robert Strut?, Rt. Hon. E tobt,, , ,',,eharies Luce, Thomas Thornhill, W. C0 w ,,, - .., J„ c Villiers, Francis ba N ,Y'r. Virilli'am t a Lle, CO n l ' on %r el Walmsley, Sir J. 1, 1 . '• Sir n . Mills, T. Walpole, S. H. Eiii ii ° o ',,Lord Michell, W. Wilson, 3. Wood, Sir C. /'er t ,; (l e, J. )dolesworth, Sir W. Sir John Por,,'°u, Sir Robert blonsell, William young , p rees !r, a . Mulgrave, Earl TELLIES. Gim:t4n, Colonel O'Connell, D. (4)0 4 • ~ V William 0obo:me, Ralph Hayt er, W. G. Ar e t a MAJORITY—NOES, 70 Palmerston, Viscount Berkeley Grenville Morgan,'Octavius It arr 411 ' Captain Grogan, Ed a n d Xell °' win • n Morris, D. I si • 4 st e „ • • Hadfield, eorg Beg", b, Si t ' 'T llliamN o rth, 1 3,Z .e tt, a p Headiam, Thomas E. Hamilton, Geo. A. Mowbray, 3. Colonel Bo 4, Colon • • th el Pechell, Sir 0, D. llr ani- Carte J. • Pellatt, Apsley urleeywYwoortodh,,JLam. es O'Brien, Patrick 11 r, . Hutt, William b reeki et Ingham, hobert Pilkington, James . " 11 r, 4;7 , John Jolliffe, Sir W . G.H. Potter, R. _ t a e 4 l e e berg, T. Y ' Kershaw, . James ra i ntr W s,:o l' ... eil_ethal,, Joh n Kirk g ,Z e d y lr i p ainaid Scholefield, W. Co r i te 11. " Siothorp, Colonel Knox, Col. Davie s ' So m ers L dA. H. Spooner, Richard 4 o' I)• L aYar 'F. bon °r tb,SirJ ueas, b u eat', (4 . • Macartney, G. b s t ull ua i t i • T t a , n L , o isi rd . Dudley Thompson, George tg ° , 4e • Col'. M•Cann, J. James Vance, J. Per4U• /Award Macgreg or , jam Wickham, Henry W l'or, t ° 4 , Joseph Moline, Richard Wilkinson, W. Fox A! e heirles ewer,•' • J. Massey, W. hi artin, John 0 0 d e C. ii . hiilligan R. • 400zieb, Viscount Mi tch el l ir._ M. E. 4 4, Sir (I. r , T. TELLERS Inglis, Sir R. H. Thorn ely, Thomas 4C)z `i& Ist -.I:TISANCE ABATEMENT (METROPOLIS) Ord er f BILL. pr e , c 'r Committee read ••Motion made and Quest.iT, Aor',ed, " That Mr. Speaker do now leave the That this t o .1111uraent proposed, to leave out from the d add r the words i c e end of the Question, in order to it8 o c, 1 1"Be will, upon this t* -- 472 "• 0 the said Committee - sed to be left out stan t.art o f the Quest t the words propo 1 " Put, c,, day "insteadt h ree thereofmonth months, resolve Que ° es 12, ion :,,..._The house divided ; Ayes 66, lr e e'rt. C. MAJORITY—AYES, 66 . iloo llaall i 11 -°4ye' ria: E . Herbert, Sidney P ii: e Il eertco a y, t ,tsjA. Sir s il l e o y ber t Il ° o \ve ; G. E. Hervey, i.ord Alfred II re, c o. HeYwerth, Lawrence Potter, u Price, W. P.I . Illarl'?"' V• Keogh, William 1 C. B. G. tug " ' , Lord Robert Charles S. ' Kinnaird Arthur F. Saw le, Pigot, S._ R. Chu' Is aac Kirk, William to n Lowe, Robert . Knightl ey R _Clive, Robert ~;,.:!bbnid, J. e. Lucas, F. Strutt, Edward Luce, T. Sullivan, M• -,.,t_le ia c n a n, 0. Macartney, G. Vernon, G. Sir J. Mackinnon, W. A. • Walmsiey, BScully,l Shelley, eii i resal Capt. J. V. Maguire, J. F. Maule, Colonel Maxwell, James P. IS ir i7 et h° , : i le e;l l O ul' h e n l 01.,; 41 . Colonel Milligan Robert raCci:`,ofle, William Mills, T. WWW.yoaliiislutiponognnl:soes,jniSar,ropivjee.ns.cAer. 11. 130,,,,,te11• Viscount Michell: W tr,-.'Llab, Sir G. Norreys , Sir * D. J. o' Q ta, W -ro. • il "n. E. North, Colonel at tlield, Geor ge palmnell, D. Berkeley, Grenville rston, Vis. Musgrave, Earl Rhin, t e i ii rtt, J. F . B. ire MINORITY —NOES 12. Buller -Carter, John Ingl e ct n a e rn, j it. Scholefield, W. ~ . tituart, Lord D. ' l °,gter, J o h n Macgregor, James 'maxim. vi , gr en • Martin, John Simoner It. . Charles Hay Mowbray, John R. Malins;Richard TELLERS. CR G , --------." the Attorney (.l( -117 X SEIM—The bill introduced by Il eral and the Soli citor - General for the amendment of the procedure and practice in Crown suits in the Court `1 Exchequer, and for the payment of costs in proceed all&As instituted on behalf of the Crown, provides that in informations, actions, &c., not of a criminal nature, lustituted by the Crown against a subject, the Crown shall be entitled to costs in the same way as in law pro ceedings between subject and subject shou ; and judg orient be g iv en against th e Crown, the costs to ld be re coverable from the Treas ch equer ury. The B arons of the Ex are also to be empowered to make general rules and orders to assimilate as much as possible te course of - p r actice and procedure in Crown suits to that between subject and subject. ANOTHER EXPEDITION TO EXPLORE THE NIGER.— We understand that it is in contemplation to fit out another Admiralty expedition to explore the source of thefri Niger, with th e v i ew o f promoting civilisation in A ca and opening up new sources of commerce. It is held that the resent is a fitting opportunity for another expedition to p the Niger inasmuch as the mortality on &Il e Coast of Africa has of late Tery much decreased. SHARE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) ! BRITISH RAILWAYS. Closini Yest Prices Business done rday. this day. Paid! Rethwias. 26 -- 100 Aberdeen ...... ......• tO tmbg. Nottug. Bost & Eastn. June 51 all Birmng. Wolverh. & St ou r Valley 9 1 28 Birkenhd. Lancsh. d Cheshire Junct 9 all Do. Chesh. & Birk , £5O & £25 Cons._ 20 18j Do., £20............. 100 Bristol & Exeter....• 102 100 Caledonian. .. ... ,68 all Chester & Holyhead 196 all Cork and Bandon.... 196 all Cork, Black. & Pass. ••• 45 Dublin&BelfastJunc 26 all Dundee Perth &Aber deen Junction .••• ••• 8 all Do. New ••• all East Anglian (E 25 L. &E.&L.&D.)..... 5 4 all Do., (lAB E. & H.).. 3, 1 all Eastern Counties_ _ 121 all Eastern Union, Class ~ A. late E. U. 5h.... 14 86 Do., do. . all Do., B. &C. 100 East Lancashire ... ... all East & West Ind. Dk. & Birming. June.... 53 100 Edinburgh& Glasgow 72 16 alinb. and Peebles... n • 100 Ediub.Prth. &Dunde 40 100 Glasgow & &Western' 53 ~,••• 100 Great Northern Stk.. ' s ' l 4 : 100 Do., A. Stock ......'- 100 Do., B. Stock - 100 Gt. Sth.&West.(lre.)ll - 100 Great Western........ 808 i - 11 frieia South-Easters. 7 - all Lancaster &Carlisle.. 10 0 - 11i Do., Third 5............ 16 - 100 L an cash. &Yorkshire 77.1 - 16 Do., Fifths . ....... .... 4g Ili Do., Wst. Riding Un. 31 - - all L ee ds Northern l5 all Liv. Crsby. &So atbpt .. • - all London & Blackwall 8/ - 7 Lond. Tilb. & Sthend. 16 - 100 L on d. Bright. &S. C5t.1.03 —: 100 London &N. Western'lls - 12 Do. Fifths - 1 D0.,1G1.5h.,M&8...0 1-, - 100 London & S.Western 8 1 86 • 426 Do., £5O 6 • r 34 Do.' £ 4O 5 • all Lndndrry.&Coleraine 11 1 all Lndndrry. & Enuisk. 18 1100 Manch . Shef. &Lincln. 281 48 Do., Man. &Lin. Un. •• • 100 Midland ...• ... ___ ••• 711 1 100 Do. Birming. & Derby 40 17 2 1 Midland G.West.(lr.) ••• 176 I Do. - 1 Shares 2 ••• all Newcastle &Carlisle - 100 'Newmarket 46 Do. Bury Extensions 4 176 Newpt.Aberg.&Htfd. 4 76 Newry & Enniskillen 2 all Newry Warrenpoint 100 Norfolk.. all 8 all Do., New .... 3? Northn. Counties Un 3'4 100 North British ... 16 North Devon, N 0.1... •• • 116'•D0., No. 2 ..... - a ll Dc., ?s, A Deferred • ••• - 8 Do., 6 B Guaranteed ••• - 176 North Staffordshire 4l all North Western.. St - 10 N. &S. Westrn. June. •• • - 100 Oxford Worcester & Wolverhampton..... 51 - 100 Scottish Central ...... 93 - 100 Scottish Midland._ ... 61 - 100 Shrewsbury & Birmg. 60 - 100 Do., L. & N. Westu. Guaranteed Stock... 69 - 9 Shrewsby. & Herefd. 11 - all Shrewsby. & Chester (Nor. W. Min.)„.... 18 • all Do. Halves, d 0....... 9 • all Do. Oswestry ......... 136 66 Shropshire . Union .... ?, all South Devon ..... 19 100 South Ea5tern......... 716 all South Wa1e5........... :351 15 IS. Yorksh. River Dun 13 5 'Do.. ...... ....• •• • • ..• •• • •• • 16(Stockton & Hartlepl. 25 20 Thames Haven Dock an d Rai1way........ 2a 17 Vale of Neath • ..... 14f all Waterfd. & Kilkenny 8/ all Waterford&Limerick 31 14 West Cornwall-- •.. 91 21s. Wmbled on &Croydoi. • _ 1 Woodford -• .. 100 York Newctl. & Berw. 20 Do. Extensions__. 116 Do. G.N.E. Purchas e) ,100 York &N. Midland. 30 -- 73 - 10 - PREFERENCE s: 100 [Aberdeen ... ......... .. ... • • all Do., No. 2, 7 p. C. ... . 100 IBris. & Ex. 4 I p. c. St. 103 ~.. 105 1 107 20 id IDo. 4 p. c. Shares 100 Caledonian £lO 105 all Chester & Holyhead Guar. 54 per cent 195 1 464 Cork&Bandon p.c d all Dundee PerthdrAber deen Junction... -. 6i I all EastA nglian (.Z3 I:0s) 6 per cent ..... 4 all Do. (£5) 7 per cent 5 1 2 Do. (11717 s) 7p. ct all Eastern Counties Ex tension, 5 p. c. No.l all Do., No. 2 ll I all Do., New 6p. c St.. 111 I all Eastern Union, Scrip Guar. 6 per cent.... 100 EastLancash. 6 p.cts. 5 all Edinb.Prth.&Dundee 4, per cent t. 100 Glasgow & S.Western guar. 5 per cent 1. 100 Great Northr sp. e l2B t. 100 Do. sp. c.,Redeem , at 10 p. c. pram ll3 61 all Gt. Southn. &Westn. (Ireland) Eighths Bl 0 6 Gt. Westn. (Berks & Hants Ex. 5 p. c.).. it. 100 G. West. fixed 45 p C. 1024 6 6 Lan. & York. F. £2O, A d It. 100 Do., 6p. c., Stock... 1.50 It. 100 London and'Brighton Guaranteed 5 p. c... It. 100 Do. Pref., sp. c. St. 50 all Do. Convertible, sp. c., 1852. . St. 100 Do. New Guar. 6 p.c. 10 5 London &S. Western, Con. Thirds 3 125 124 Londonderry& Coler Shares 124 all Loudy. & Ennis. .1 Sh 13 25 all Man ch. ,Shef., & Lin., 1 Shares, No. 1 8 10 all Do. New, £lO lO 6 3 Do., £6 125 all Marypt. &Carl. 4p c. 124 all Do. 45 per cent......, 125 10 Do .. 2 .• St. 100 Mid.C . onsol; 6 . p.c St. St. 100 Do. Consol. Bristol & Birm. 6 per cent.... 149 161 5 Do. Pref. 44 per cent. St. 100 Norfolk Extension... 114 St. 100 Do. Pref. 55 per ct... 118 St. 100 Do. Way. Val. 5 p c St. 100 North British ......... 115 20 all North Staffordshire.. 244 St. 100 Oxford Worcester & Wolverh. £15,6 p. c • 15 15 Do 2 8 all Shrews& Birm. N. G lO4 10 all Shrewsby. & Chester (Nor. W. Min),B p. c l7 10 10 Do: 5 per cent 25 all South Devon 10 11 Do. New Par 1.0.6 all S. Eastern (Reading Ann. of .21 Os 6d 25 20 all S.Yorksh.4p.c.Guar. 19. 5 3 Waterfd..&Kilk.6p.c. 1 St. 100 York Newcastle and Berwick,4 p.e.Pref. 103. -2 p - li p - 15 130 -8, , _ .4 - 5 Do 10 York& N. Midland H & S. Ptuvh ti 5k lip - 164 m 815 2 - 11 - 14 4 Antwerp&Rotterdam 3 Belgian Eastn. June. 8 Beziers to Graissessac all Charleroi& Erquelin. 10 Dijon and Besancon 8 Dutch Rhenish all East Indian 1 Do. Extension all Gt. Indian Peninsula 10 Gd. Junet. of France all Gt .Western of Canada Shares ........ 3 ILuecap Plixtoja 5 p.c. pref . 15 Luxembourg 10 Do. (Railway) 2 Do. ............. 3 Do. (Canal) ......... 4 Do. 6p. et. pref.... 9 Lyons & Mediteman 7AMadras ................. all - Namur & Liege (with interest) ............ all Do. (ex interest ). ..... all Northern of France.. Do. 201. 3 p. c Bds. all (fmy.B.&Ams.Shs.: all NorwegianTrunkPre 10 Paris and Lyons all Paris and Orleans... all Paris and Rouen..... all Paris and Strasbourg 4 ParisCaen & Cherbrg n Quebec & Richmond all Rouen andHavre 2 Royal Swedish all Sambre and Meuse 2 S \ th-Eastrn. of France 6 Southern of France 2s. Upper India Scrip all West Flanders • 10 Do. 5) .1 per c. Pref 10 Western cf France 2 West. of Switzerland 9 Zealand 101 d 22 24 104 684 68, 1 1 - 224 22 204 51 53 4 13 121 13 75 I 75 5 1 6 74 1 734 iist 85 55 136 134 5 111 112 10i 11 891 891 90 7t 105 17 p 77i 771 4gd 3 d 15i l .04 ip xcl 103 24 -2i p 1154 115i£ - - 59 3 / 4 89 - 5 d. - 4d 13 21 1 28i 9 -d 7 2 1i71 2i 4 34c1 P l3 3 2 d 33 itl 131 9 - PI 71 I disl - 3if a 3 - 20 - 723 724 - 3Gi 35t .- 14 69. -- 70 , 69i 9 7t 7id 24 2id 60 -- 61 1 60 ~ES. 114 1 113 a 4 3i 151 1150 Si 116 40 25 25 St. HE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING-, AUGUST 9, 1853. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. PETITIONS. The Earl of WICKLOW presented a petition from 50 of the most eminent clergymen and lawyers in Dub lin, complaining of the alterations lately made in the l i national system of education in Ireland, the effect of which was to place it in the power of a single child to exclude religious works from a school, and praying their lordships not to sanction such alteration. Lord BEAUMONT presented a petition from clergy men, justices of the peace, and other persons in a re spectable position, in favour of the liberation of Edward Murray, now under imprisonment for life in the Papal territory. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH presented a petition from Glasgow in favour of the Public Houses (Scotland) Bill. Lord COLVILLE presented nineteen petitions from places in Scotland against the Universities (Scotland) Bill. COURT OF COMMON LAW (IRELAND (BILL) On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, in the absence of Eord Brougham, who was away from indisposition, this bill went through committee. GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH (No. 3) BILL. This bill passed through committee. NAVAL COAST VOLUNTEERS BILL. This bill was read a second time. PUBLIC LIBRARIES (IRELAND AND SCOT- LANDS BILL. The report of the amendments to this bill was con sidered and agreed to. PRIVATE WATER BILLS. Lord WHARNCLIFFE moved an additional stand ing order to the effect, that when an application was made to Parliament for a bill which proposed to abstract water from any stream, notice of such bill should be given on or before the 15th December preceding the ap plication, to all persons using the waters of such stream for a distance of 20 miles below the point at which such water was intended to be abstracted. Lord REDESDALE supported the resolution, which was carried. IRISH. LANDLORD AND TENANT BILLS. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE inquired whether the bills before the house relating to the law of landlord and tenant in Ireland, which purported to consolidate a large number of statutes, had been submitted to the law advisers of the Irish Government, and whether their opinion had been obtained as to the safety and accu racy of those bills in that respect. The Duke of NEWCASTLE said the bills were sub mitted to the present Lord Chancellor and the Attorney and Solicitor General in Ireland, and he had great plea sure in saying that their report upon them was that they were drawn up with great care, skill, and accuracy. Their report was accompanied by a recommendation that they should be passed as speedily as possible into law. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE believed that it was physically impossible for these functionaries to have seen and approved of the bills in their present state, for on their last stage in the other house it appeared that five acts of Parliament had been omitted from the sche dules, and five other acts inserted. The Duke of NEWCASTLE promised to make in quiry into the subject. The subject then dropped. THE EASTERN QUESTION. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE then rose and said—My lords, I last week took the liberty of putting a question on the same subject to which I have again to call your lordships' attention. I received an answer upon that occasion from my noble friend, which I am pleased to say was quite satisfactory. But, my lords, unfortunately I am compelled almost to repeat the same question in consequence of information which has since been received. According to information which has ap peared in the public journals of this country, under date of " Jassy, 28th July," it appears that the government of that province has been entirely superseded, and a new government has been established by the authority of the Russian Emperor. It appears that the Hospodar is allowed to form part of the new government, but three assistants are named with him, and this council has the entire legislative and administrative government of those provinces. I believe the same course has been pursued in Wallachia as in Moldavia, and those provinces are now under a new administrative and legislative govern ment, appointed by the Emperor of Russia. But, my lords, that is not all. It appears that contributions for the support of the Russian forces are levied directly in those provinces, and that certain Boyards have been forcibly compelled to enlist in the service of the Russian Emperor. We have then these provinces, if these ac counts be correct, in every respect under the rule and government of the Czar ; the administrative and legisla tive functions are carried on under Russian authority ; the taxation and resources of the country are managed under Russian authority ; and, more than that, the Russian armies are recruited from the inhabitants of the country. Now, the first question which I have to ask my noble friend is, whether he has received any infor mation on this subject, either contradicting or confirm ing the state of things which I have just now stated. The second question—and it is one which very naturally occurs, and so naturally that I cannot refrain from putting it, even though I may be possibly thought in discreet in doing so—is one which I am sure every man in this country, and every member of either house of Parliament, is most anxious to receive information. What, if these facts are true, if they cannot be contra tradicted, what has the Government of this country done thereupon ? The question divides itself naturally into two parts--what has been done here at home, and what has been done by the English functionaries abroad ? I (Hear, hear.) I have very little doubt as regards the latter point, and I hope I shall be told there is very little reason to doubt that at the moment I have the honour of addressing your lordships the combined fleets are at last before Constantinople, the other side of the Dardanelles. (Hear, hear.) I cannot imagine it pos sible that the ambassadors of France and England have any restriction to their discretion at present as to the directions they may give the admiral commanding the forces to which I have referred. Nor can I doubt for an instant that my noble friend and relative at Constan tinople will have thought right to act with spirit and energy, as becomes the representative of this great country. (Hear.) If I ask what has been done at home, I expect and hope I shall be told that either long before this intelligence was received, or since it has been received, there has been not a request for explanation, but a categorical demand that the Danubian principali ties shall be evacuated by the Russian forces. (Hear.) I say if we have undertaken and advised the Porte, so that the Porte holds her arm and has not attempted to defend her property, we have made ourselves parties to these transactions as well by what is doing now as by what has been done by formal treaties. I cannot be lieve, my lords, nor will I allow myself to believe, that these statements are in all respects correct ; because if it be true that Russia has assumed the government of those principalities, has taken possession of the terri tory, and committed this aggression upon Turkey, it is an entire contradiction to the circulars voluntarily issued to the Courts of Europe, as well as the manifesto, issued by the Russian general upon entering the provinces. I am not going to discuss that matter now, of which no tice has been given for a future evening ; but I must say I cannot doubt that the energetic steps to which I have adverted must have been taken upon these pro ceedings, which are the strongest possible proceed ings of war. I believe I told your lordships that when the Russian forces moved into those provinces the Russian general declared that it was not war with Turkey. What I have described is of the character of war, and if you do not say it is war, then I say it is piracy. (Hear.) It is war or piracy, and I want to know whether we are in a condition to suffer war upon such a pretext as is put forward, or to stand by and see an act of piracy committed upon Turkey ? (Hear.) I say, if we are told it is a question of treaties whether the fleet shall go inside or outside the Dardanelles, a state of war has abolished all treaties between Russia and Turkey as far as Russia is concerned. (Hear.) There does not exist one treaty binding Turkey to Russia. after such an aggression as I have described. There is no reason for not acting ; and what is the state of things at home ? We are told, by answers in either house of Parliament, "we have sent notes." You may send other notes ; and we are told another note was sent last Sunday or Monday from Vienna ; but while you are sending notes the Russian forces are advancing even beyond the principalities named, and are taking possession of territories nearer to Constantinople. We have had news to-day which I gladly term good news. The news in the papers is that the proposal has been received favourably at St. Petersburg. But we do not know what that proposal is, and before we can express our unqualified satisfaction we ought to know what that proposal has been. It cannot be the proposal alluded to last week in the House of Commons, which to Eng -1 end and France was satisfactory, because it only left Vienna on the Sunday or Monday. This good news's under advices from St. Petersburg of the 3d inst., and therefore it is utterly impossible, the proposal leaving Vienna on the Ist, it could have reached St. Petersburg by the 3d. The advices from St. Petersburg of the 3d inst. must relate to some Austrian proposition. We do not know what that was ; but I am sure, after what has passed, the houses of Parliament and the country will consider no proposition satisfactory, if it be not . a propo sition for the immediate evacuation of t e Turkish terrerenti tory. Besides this good nevss, we have n ews of a quality ; for it is stated that the Russian force in the flo tilla collected at Ismail has taken possession of the whole of the inner part of the river. Tkig force consigts of The Earl of ELLENBOROUGFI begged to ask the noble ear], if her Majesty's Government had received any information of an arrangement by which Russia had advanced large sums of money to Persia, and taken in part payment the province of Tieran. 200 boats, 150 being gun-boats. So we have not only an invasion of Moldavia and Wallachia, but while you ara passing notes and sending couriers, we have an in vasion of Bulgaria, and the whole of that great r;ver, the most important, perhaps, to the commerce of all Europe, taken possession of on both sides by Russian forces. These are things upon which, though wishing to wait with the utmost patience for explanations until convenient for the Government to make them, and wish ing not hastily to say one word which can excite the public mind on the subject, I find it impossible to re frain from asking a question with the hope of obtaining a direct and very clear answer. I can assure your lord ships I believe there is no man in either house of Par liament who has a more sincere abhorence of war than I have, unless it be necessary—l do not say justifiable — but unless it be necessary for the honour and character, and essential to the dignity of this country. At the same time, if we are to sacrifice our honour and charac ter, then I say the whole material interests of the coun try must suffer. (Hear, hear.) It is therefore, my lords, that I have taken the liberty of making this statement before asking the question of which I have given notice. I wish to know—whether any official information has been received by her Majesty's Government, leading them to believe that the statement I have made is cor rect ; and if that is the case, what steps her Majesty's Government have taken, or propose to take, in conse quence of the proceedings of the Russian authorities ? The Earl of CLARENDON—My lords, I am afraid it will not be in my power to give my noble friend any answer which materially differs from that which I gave him five days ago to the same question. I agree en tirely now, as I did last week, in everything which has fallen from my noble friend with respect to the con sequences which will arise, both to Turkey and to Europe, from any permanent occupation or anything re sembling a permanent occupation of the principalities by Russia. But I must again inform my noble friend that we have no official information of the character which he has now brought before this house. lam not certainly prepared to deny that many of the acts to which he has alluded may have been committed by the Russian Go vernment. I have derived my information merely from the same sources as my noble friend, and in that way it is stated that there has been a sort of committee of go vernment formed for carrying on the business of the principalities together with the Hospodars. But we have no information whatever of that kind, and I am sure my noble friend will agree with me, and I am sure your lordships will also be of opinion, that for her Majesty's Government to act upon reports at they arise would be the height of rashness ; yet in no other way could we have proceeded in carrying out the measures to which my noble friend has adverted. My noble friend has said he believes the Danube has been crossed, and Bulgaria invaded. I have no reason to believe such is the fact, but the contrary, because I have this afternoon received letters from Galatz, dated the 28th of July, in which no allusion whatever is made to such an occurrence. But certainly some allusions are made, which I shall not ad vert to, respecting a few gun boats brought down there, and the bellicose character of the general arrangements at that point. We have likewise received letters from Jassy of the 27th July, and from Bucharest of the 26th July, and no mention is made in them of this new form of government being established. It is perfectly true that the presence of the Russian troops there is alluded to as a hardship, and that the peasants are withdrawn from their agricultural operations, and made to do a certain amount of work ; but there is no mention of recruits being drawn from amongst them. Mention is made of a large amount of provisions being sent from Bessarabia, which is Russian territory, for the use or the Russian troops in the principalities. I therefore say, and I am sure your lordships will agree with me, that to have acted upon any such information as we have seen in the newspapers would have been premature, especially as some of the re ports referred to last week have already proved to be in correct. I can only say further, that my noble friend can not exceed me in his abhorrence of war and in his anxiety and desire for peace, provided that peace is an honour able peace. (Hear.) lam sure no other peace would ever be for the interests of this country, or receive the support of this great nation. (Hear.) But, my lords, I must say that, at the point at which we are arrived in these negotiations, when I do see reason to hope they are tending to a satisfactory and peaceful solution, ex citing debates in either House of Parliament are not likely to produce that peace, and that peculiar character of peace which would alone be beneficial to this coun try. (Hear.) I must inform my noble friend that the negotiations appear to have assumed exactly that cha racter which we all have most desired. (Hear.) This question has not been left as one simply between Russia and the Porte. It has not been left as one between England and France, united closely for supporting Tur key against Russia. It has assumed a European cha racter. (Hear.) It is not only the Porte, it is Austria, it is Prussia, it is France, it is England, acting together in orderto check designs which they consider inconsistent with the balance of power, or those territorial limits established by previous agreement. This, I say, is a state of things which must be satisfactory to your lord ships and to the country, because it is likely to lead to a more satisfactory and more permanent conclusion. (Hear.) I think my noble friend will not press me to enter more into details as to the state of the negotiations now pending between Vienna and St. Petersburgh, when I assure him that nothing has been done at Vienna without the consent of the French and English Govern ments, and that the French and English Governments will consent to nothing which does not protect and se cure the independence of Turkey. (Hear.) The Earl of MALMESBURY said it was impossible to believe that when two countries of the importance and power of France and England stood forward in defence of a country like Turkey, and agreed upon a policy of action, that negotiations would close in anything prejudicial to the honour or credit of either of those great nations. He had no wish to embarrass her Majesty's Government, or to say one word which could in any manner, the most remote, in terfere with the negotiations now being carried on ; but there was a point at which the patience displayed by that side of the house could not be further extended. Parliament would be prorogued in the course of a week or ten days, and yet the public knew nothing of what had passed in the negotiations between this country and Russia. They were perfectly well informed with respect to the negotiations—or at least had a very fair idea of the negotiations between France and Russia from the circular of M. Drouyn de Lhuys, and they had been in formed by the same kind channel of so much of the policy of Russia as they could judge of from the two circulars of Count Nesselrode. At the same time, her Majesty's Government had not uttered a word or availed themselves of the same channels of information. lie thought some explanation a little more detailed than that which the noble earl had given should be laid before Parliament before it separated for five or six months. He saw no reason why the opinion of Parliament on this important question should not be made known to this country and to foreign countries, without producing any debate which should interfere with the negotiations new being carried on. He could only say, if he par ticipated in the debate, he should refrain from saying a single syllable which might interfere with the desirable progress of those negotiations. He trusted under the present circumstances of the session, the noble earl would not refuse to give the country some idea of what he ex pected from the Russian Government—to tell them a little more plainly whether it was made a sine qua non that Russia should evacuate the Turkish provinces ; be cause when he talked of objections to a permanent occu pation, it was a phrase difficult to explain ; and it might be " permanent occupation " meant the appropriation of those provinces by Russia. He did not think this country would be satisfied with less than the speedy and complete evacuation of those provinces. (Hear, hear.) the Earl of CLARENDON—I should be very sorry if there existed the slightest misapprehension, even for a single day, with respect to my meaning with regard to the Russian occupation of the Danubian provinces. I have no hesitation now in informing my noble friend, without waiting for any further discussion, that we look to the immediate and complete evacuation of the Da nubian provinces as a sine qua non of any agreement whatever. (He ar, hear.) With respect to any discus sion, or any statement which it is desirable to make, I hope your lordships will bear in mind that the Govern ment have not wished to shrink from this discussion, or to lay the fullest information before Parliament of what has been done. I did not even ask my noble friend to postpone the motion of which he had given notice for a future evening. I felt that if your lordships and the country were pleased to ask for it, you were perfectly right and justified in so doing, and the noble marquis, yielding to the r e q uest of the n oble lord, did so inde pendent of the Government, and without even giving the t. fe re , G i o t vwe nill b i ee nremembered his tb i a n t t t e l. ? e t i o G n o . v e r l a hope, m ent shrink from any discussion ; and any disposition I ever had in favour of that discussion is great.] increased by it a desirable prospect l o f f ea t r he no s t es g s u io a n e . the_ o f p rtohsep close the country should have every it, and I can assure my noble friend, r fioln t d o r w onl al h eat n i dht e iii h oan ti ntke h i pre vent her Majesty's Government from nothing so, except those reg ar d reasonsfor the public which have service—and s h il e influenced them — cognised and approved by this house. (Hear, hear.) nw a g v e e NeV b ail e nl e ngirvee The Earl of CLARENDON—In answer to the noble earl, I have seen this report, as the noble earl has done, and I have taken the best means I can of verifying the facts, but as yet I have no official information on the subject. If I may draw inferences from other informa tion, I should say no such arrangement has been made. The Liberated Africans Bill, the Land Tax Redemp tion Bill, the Newspaper Stamp Duties Bill, and the Consolidated Annuities (Ireland) Bill were severally read a second time. GOVERNMENT OF INDIA BILL. The house then went into committee on this bill. On clause 1, Lord ALBEMARLE said that Parliament having as sented to the double government, it must be taken with all its enormous expense, but he suggested the doing away with the Governor and Council of Madras and Bombay, and the substitution of a lieutenant-governor. The clause was agreed to. On clause 2, Lord ELLENBOROUGH proposed an amendment, providing that if the Court of Directors should neglect to sign any document within a given time, the signature of an official of the Board of Control should suffice to make such document valid. After discussion it was agreed that the power of affix ing such signature should be conferred on commis sioners. The clause was agreed to. On clause 3, Lord ELLENBOROUGH moved that the time for the appointment of the Government directors should be extended, in order to see what men would be appointed by the Court, and be also proposed to alter the number of three to that of six. After discussion these amendments were negatived, and the clause was agreed to, as were clauses 4 and 5. On clause 6, Lord ELLENBOROUGH proposed that all retired officers of twenty years' service in India should have votes in the election of directors. This would add about 1,250 votes, and make the whole constituency 3,000 a number which he defied any one to canvass. The Duke of ARGYLL reminded their lordships that they had already agreed to carry on •the government of India by means of the company, which consisted only of its stockholders. Government had not proposed to create a new constituency, which would be done by Lord Ellenborough's amendment. After some discussion this amendment was negatived, and the clauses agreed to. Clause 7 to 12 inclusive were agreed to. On clause 13 (that imposing the director's oath), Lord ELLENBOROUGH objected that the oath was carlessly framed, and that although a director swore that he would not take any emolument, he did not pled& himself not to take any promise of emolument, and also objected to the oath to support the Company's Govern ment. The last clause, "to be indifferent and equal to all manner of persons," he also said must be perpetually violated, and was intended to be. He prepared an oath of his own, which would bring the parties taking it to a sense of their real position, which was that of trustees for the Crown, and not for a defunct company, and which also provided against corruption. Lord HARROWBY thought that both oaths were in sulting to the directors, who were called upon to give an obligation demanded of no other functionaries. Lord GRANVILLE proposed to re-consider the oath, and hring is forward again on the third reading. Clauses up to 20, inclusive, were agreed to. On clause 21, Lord ELLENBOROUGH expressed his hope that a competent member of council acquained with home business would be appointed to aid the Governor-Gene ral ; and he spoke strongly of the ignorance of such business and want of habits of dispatch prevalent in India. The clause was agreed to. On clause 22. Lord ELLENBOROUGH moved the omission of the word which was limited to a selection from the " civil" service the Governor-General's appointment of two members of the Legislative Council. Lord BROUGHTON agreed that the Governor ought not to be fettered ; that he had doubts about the work ing of the council, which would become a little parlia ment, and which would, he thought, diminish the autho rity of the Governor-General in the eyes of the natives. Another danger arose from the impossibility of keeping anything secret in India, even the most important dis patch, the contents of which almost invariably oozed out as it was. If we were beginning to govern India in a new way, the experiment could not stop where it was now proposed that it should. Lord WHARNCLIFFE also thought it objectionable to place the Governor-General under the control of a council, Lord GRANVILLE assented to the removal of the word " civil," which was done, and the clause was agreed to. Clauses up to 29 inclusive were agreed to. On clause 30, Lord ELLENBOROUGH moved, as an amendment, that the Commander-in-Chief of the Forces should be ex officio a member of the Council. The amendment, after a brief discussion, was nega tived, and the clause was agreed to, as were clauses up to 35 inclusive. On clause 36 (referring to Haileybury College), Lord MONTEAGLE expressed his belief that a mere examination would prove an unsatisfactory test of merit, and that incompetent candidates would succeed by the process of cramming. Lord GRANVILLE said that it would be disgrace ful to the college if youths who had had a special educa tion there could not, nine times out of ten, beat any one who had been merely crammed. The clause was agreed to. Clauses up to 39 were agreed to. Lord MONTEAGLE moved the insertion of a clause providing that there should be no distinction between covenanted and uncovenanted servants. He desired to ensure the admission of natives to employment. Lord GRANVILLE said that tha proposed clause was framed to contend with an imaginary evil. Under the present measures, the native-born Indian would be admitted to employment if he could show himself duly qualified. The amendment was negatived, and the succeeding clauses were agreed to up to 43 inclusive. On 44 (the new clause relating to the salt monopoly), Lord ELLENBOROUGH strongly condemned this novel interference with the financial system of India. He opposed it on principle, but also believed that it would not produce the benefits which were anticipated to the importer. He hoped that their lordships would strike the clause out of the bill, India ought to be treated as a perfectly independent country in matters of finance. Lord ALBEMARLE cited statistics to show the deprivation sustained by the native in India in regard to salt, and hoped that the Indian authorities would be instructed by the Home Government to alleviate this state of things. The clause was struck out of the bill. The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the house resumed. The Crime and Outrage (Ireland) Bill was passed through committee. The Turnpike Acts Continuance (Ireland) Bill was read a second time. The other bills on the paper were advanced a stage, and their lordships adjourned at a few minutes after half-past twelve. HOUSE OF COMMONS--(YESTERDAY SUPPLY. Mr. FUME objected to the house being forced through committee of supply in the hurried way pro posed. The votes which they were asked to sanction to-day amounted to no less a sum than 4,582,000/. When he first directed attention to these votes they were only between 15,0001. and 18,0001., but they had been going on increasing ever since , an they had now reached the sum he had now mentioned. He did not mean to say there were not reasons for the increase, but he thought they should adopt another course in a future session, and submit the votes to a select committee be fore they were proposed to the house. The house then went into committee of supply. On the vote of 20,0001. for civil contingencies Mr..IIIJME went through the items of the vote, and urged various reductions ; and, after some di scuss i on, the vote was agreed to. On the question that 550,8871. be voted to her Majesty to defray the expenses of the. Commissariat Department, Mr. HUME complained that nothing had been oe to reduce the expenses of the department, although re ductions and abolitions had been suggested by the com mittee up stairs. He tho ug ht that great reduction s m ight be made in this vot e , so f ar as it applied to the I colonies. Mr. WILSON defended the vote, and stated that Government were doing all in their power to gradually reduce the vote. Sir J. GRAHAM announced that the Colonial De partments, connected with both the Army and Navy, were in progress of reduction. The vote was then agreed to. The sum of 45,2291. was voted to her Majesty to de fray the expenses of the half-pay pensions of officers attached to the Commissariat Department. On the question that 3,5001. be voted to her Majesty to defray the expenses of the salary of the Governor of Jamaica, Mr. EiIIME expressed a hope that the next session some plan would be brought forward by which the country would be relieved from these charges. The vote was agreed to. Sir J. GRAHAM in moving that 50,0001. be voted to her Majesty to defray the expense of the new coast vo lunteers, said it was not intended to call out the full com plement of 10,000 men this year, but only to enlist 5,000 men. The vote was, consequently, for only half the estimate. Capt. SCOBELL complained that while bounties were paid to militiamen and coast volun teers, no such boun ties were paid to able seamen on their entering the navy. The result was that the navy contained many inferior seamen. Sir J. GRAHAM told the hon. and gallant member that if he would go to Spithead on Thursday he would find he was in error so far as his latter observation went. (Hear.) The vote was then agreed to. On the question that 835,212/. be voted to her Ma jesty, to defray the expense of the Post-office Packet Service, Mr. HITME took the opportunity of expressing a hope that the whole system of our packet service would be opeedily reformed. 1 -d . — ka.7.7; ?-r,x` Z -pow 'tz,t•if?. . , 0 . " p Mr. COWPER was happy to be able to hold out OW ; prospect that such hope would be shortly realised. The N o 7 hon. gentleman said the American and the Peninsular and Oriental contracts had been most efficiently per formed, but the service to the West Indies and Australia had been exceedingly defective. The Government, how ever, had not acted with any harsh hostility, and the contracts would be annulled unless the services were more punctually performed. Mr. HUME urged upon the Government the necessity of encouraging the principle of ocean penny postage. It was impolitic to continue the existing high rate of colonial postage while emigration continued so extensive as it had been of late years. Mr. JOHN MACGREGOR also dwelt upon the importance of establishing ocean penny postage, and added his testimony to the efficiency and punctuality with which the United States service was performed, Mr. JAMES MACGREGOR observed that a reduc tion had taken place in the cost of carrying mails by her Majesty's ships. The reduction he saw was from 77,0001. to 35,0001., and he should be glad to know whether it was intended still further to reduce the num ber of mails carried by her Majesty's ships. Mr. COWPER explained that the reduction had arisen from the Mediteranean mails having been transferred from her ajesty's ship s t o th e P en i nsular and Or i enta l Company's vessels. If the mail service between Dover and the continent could be performed more economically by contract than by her Majesty's vessels, a change would be made accordingly. H e wou ld take that oppor tunity of stating that Governm e nt h a d i t i n contempla tion to reduce the rate of postage, and to extend the service to Australia. The vote was then agreed to. On the question that 200,0001. be voted to defray the expenses of the Kafir war, Mr. ADDERLEY thought the house ought not to allow this vote to pass without obtaining some informa tion as to the settlement of the war. A very liberal constitution had been extended to the Cape, and this was a most opportune period for ascertaining upon what terms the war had been settled. He had the fullest confidence in the wisdom of the Colonial Ministers, while he fully concurred in the consti tution which bad been conceded to the Cape ; but the Minister had committed an error with regard to the limits of territory which he had attempted to establish. There was no more fruitful source of war than the capricious settlement . of frontier questions, Minis ters and yet would the country believe that several successive had pursued a different frontier policy towards the hadCa e. (Hear, perpetualrhear.) The consequence of this war, m ain a te nd nan s oe o loofngtheas exist ingtis frontiers by country undertook been e E uro pean troops, so long would it be involved in a war wit h the native Kafir tribes. He the therefore recommended the Government to adopt the same policy in the Cape that was formerly applied to our American colonies, and leave the frontiers to be de fended by militias raised from amongst the settlers them selves. He complained of the abandonment of territory which had recently taken place in the Cape, particularly of the Orange River territory, which had endangered the situation of Natal, and recommended that the present ' frontier policy of the Colonial-office should be reversed. Mr. F. PEEL said the new constitution had been received throughout the colony as a boon, and he had no doubt that it would prove advantageous, as well to • the mother country as to the colony. With regard to the question of territory which the lion. gentleman had raised, he contended that the frontier policy of the Co lonial-office was both wise and safe. Much of the terri tory which it was proposed to be abandoned had always been a burden to this country, while it was almost out of its power, or the power of the settlers, to defend it ; and the Colonial-office had therefore sent out Sir George Clerk as a comsaissioner to deal with the whole question in the best manner in which his judgment, in connection with that of the Governor, could suggest. He entirely differed with the hon. gentleman in supposing that the abandonment of the Orange River territory would endanger the safety of Natal, because the latter was entirely independent of the former, and there was a constant steam communication be tween Natal and Cape Town, without it being necessary to touch in the remotest degree upon the Orange River territory. The frequency and expense of these wars, however, rendered it indispensably necessary that some thing should be done to prevent their recurrence. (Hear, hear.) During the last six years no less than 4,000,0001. had been spent upon these wars, but still he doubted with General Cathcart, whether it was expedient at once to withdraw the protection of the European troops, and leave the settlers to defend the territory themselves. That was the mistake which they committed in 1846, and it was, therefore, intended now to pursue the different course of leaving the troops to be withdrawn, as the Government and settlers of the colony found they could dispense with their assistance. Sir DE LACY EVANS advocated the abandonment of the Orange territory. Mr. V. SMITH did not believe that this was the last vote they would be asked for in connection with the Kafir war. He approved of the abandonment of the Orange River territory, and thought some other terri tories would have to be abandoned yet before the colony would be safe. The vote was then agreed to. On the motion of Lord J. RUSSELL, the chairman was directed to report progress, and the house having resumed, he obtained leave to sit again at six o'clock. The other twelve o'clock orders were then disposed of, and the house rose at four o'clock. The house re-assembled at six o'clock. PETITIONS. Mr. POTTER presented a petition from Limerick against the bill for settling the question of Ministers' money in Ire land. Mr. M'CA NN presented a similar petition from Drogheda. Sir J. SHELLEY gave notice that he would to-morrow (this day) moved for leave to bring in a bill for the estab lishment of a Metropolitan Board of Sewers, and for other purposes connected therewith. He would make that mo tion solely for the purpose of having the bill printed before the recess. THE WORK OF THE SESSION. On the motion of Mr. BROTHERTON, the following . returns were ordered to be produced : " Returns of the number of private bills introduced and brought from the House of• Lords and of acts pa sse d i n th e present session, classed according to the following subjects : Railways ; roads and bridges ; waterworks ; ports ; piers ; harbours and docks ; canals and navigations ; churches, chapels, and burying-grounds ; paving, lighting, and im proving; gaols and other county buildings; inclosures ; small debt courts ; and all other bills and acts : Of all the private bills which, in the present session, have been treated as opposed bills ; specifying those which have been classi fied in groups by the committee of selection; together with the names of the selected members who served on each com mittee; the first and also the last day of the sitting of each committee ; the number of days on which each committee sat ; the number of days on which each selected member has served ; the bills the preambles of which were reported to have been proved ; the bills the preambles of which were reported to have been not proved ; the bills referred back to the committee of selection, as having become un opposed ; and the bills withdrawn or not proceeded with by the parties : and of all private bills which in the pre sent session have been referred by the committee of selec tion to the chairman of the committee of ways and means; together with the names of the members who served on each committee, the number of days on which each com mittee sat, and the number of days on which each member attended. " Divisions of the House—Return of the number of di visions of the House of Commons in the present session ; stating the subject of division and the number of mem bers in the majority and minority, tellers included; also, the aggregate number in the house on each division, dis tinguishing the divisions on public business from private, and also the number of divisions before and after mid night (in continuation of Parliamentary paper No. 574, of session 1852). " Acts of Parliament—Return of the total number of acts passed in each session since the year 1800, distinguish ing the number of public, private, and local and 'personal acts, and the number relating to Great Britain, England, Scotland, and Ireland, and those relating to the United Kingdom. "Petitions for Private Bills—Returns of all petitions for private bills deposited in the Private Bill Office of the House of Commons for the present session; with the name who have d e p os it e d and address of the agents respectively the same. , _ _ _ " Public Committees—Return of the number of public committees appointed in the present session, their sub jects, and the names o f 1 members app o i n t e d, and their chairman ; the number of days on which each committee sat, and the number of days on which each member served on each committee. "Business of the House—Returns of the number of each of the following motions which have been made in the house before the order of the day and notices have been disposed. of, or in any committee of the whole house, in the sessions 1849, 1850, 1852, and 1852-3, viz. :-1. That this house do now adjourn. 2. That this house, at its rising, will adjourn till Monday next, or any future day. 3. \ That a debate be now adjourned. 4. That a chairman of a committee of the whole house do report progress. 5. That the chairman do now leave the chair. And distin guishing in each class the number of such motions which were withdrawn, negatived, or agreed to by the house or the committee, and the number upon which there were divisions. " Sittings of the House.—Return of the number of days on which the House of Commons sat in the prosen . fif_' B _ sion, stating, for each day, the date of the month and _r f e day of the week, the hour of meeting, and then 7, 4 °.! adjournment ; and the total number of hours e ; wand the sittings of the house, and the average tu o u use sa n t each showing the number of hours on which the b day, and the number of hours _ rowe d i egs (in number of entries in each day's votes andt 1',,, , of session continuation of Parliamentary paper, N • o, ' 1852). „ st o f the public bills " Public Bills.—Alphabetical u after Trudinght ; and the n b whom introduced, during the present session, stating fr om the House of Lords ; or which have been brought stages in this house, and dis tinguishing have been introduced into b House of Commons the dates of their several become law (in con- No. 575, of session tinuation of Parliamenta r y 1852)." TJGHBY moved for the following those whichtlriayvepsaipnecie., Sir H. WILLO re turns : ks —Return, in continuation of the Bar " Savings Dan. , . . 12, o• session, 1852, giving under the liainentary N form of , . , head Nero 1, the altered i3alances. as rendered by the banks to the national debt c ontroissio • ,• ners for 1851 and 1852 ; and, under head. No. 5, showing in addition to the detailed statements there given, t h e a ggregate amount of stocks and securities sold and pur chased by the commissioners on account of savings banks, for each of the years 1851 and 1852, ending on the 20th day of November. Savings Banks.--Return, in continuation of Parlia mentary paper, No. 214, of session, 1852, showing in ad dition to the detailed statements there given, the agre gate amounts under column to 1 to column 6 inclusive, for each of the years 1851 and 1852, ending on the 20th day of November, and giving under column 5 a detailed. account of the incidental expenses defrayed by the na tional debt commissioners out of the funds of the savings i banks." Agreed to. Sir G. PECHELL moved for a return of the number of visitors admitted to see the apartments and pictures at LINFS LEASED AT FIXED RENTALS, Leasing Compans. Closing' Price Yesterday. prAd; tAiLwArs. ;100 1 Buckghaansh.', I all Clydesdale Jc 4 'lOO E.Lincoln. gr. 6 p. cent an Glstr.&Dn.Fr all Ilartlpl. Dk. & L. &N.IV Calodon.. Gt. Northn Gt. ".".restn Yk. New. & Berw Y.&N.Md Do Do S. Eastern Do Railway... all ill & Selby. all Do. Shares. all Do. Shares. all Lon.&Greenw all Do. Preference WO Lowestoft gr.! per cent... 100 Do. 6 per ct... all Ilanch.Exton. and Matlock all Middlesbro' & Redcar. all Nlidld.Bradfd. all Northern and Easternsp.c. all Do. 6 per ct..' all Do. Fixed sp. c all Prest. &Wyrei Norfolk Do _O7 -109 54,1 - 55 1.50 - 152 33 - 34 Ln. &N. `V. & MUM. Stekto - i & Darlingt. Ll 3 —114 i 56 57 27i —28 b, 141 14 , 4 26 27 98 - 100 E. Count Do 3 - 31 L . OB -7 iii 9 L. &I\ . W &Ln&Yk Do M- Do. 1. Shares. \I 100 Roystn.&Hit.i 100 Do.Shepth.St. 18i3 Shef. Roth. de Goole g.5.p.c 9?,r Staffordsh.. all WearVallevr G per cent Gt.Northn Do Lancash.dz i Yorksh MrMClean Stockt. & , Darling IDo 65 - 67 all Do 100 Wilts&Somrst iGt.Westu .. ---. , .. :50 - 152 L5O - 152 - ii IL .I.(i' - 102 -103 i Business this day. 113 MINES. 1 ' all Agua Fria ..... 1 —11 p os. all Anglo Californian lid 4 p 10 2 Australasian 20 5 Australian 2 -- 3 1 all Australian Cordillera 4 4i d 1 all A us t ra lian Freehold i d 1 all Ave Maria 4 ii a 1 all Baden (Gd. Duchy of) 1 d uar 1 all British Austrin. Gold 4 i d 20 13.5 British Iron 7 9 35 244BrazilianImp.(issued at E 5 pm n - 41 30 all IDo. Cocaes & Cuiada 3 4 20 15 Do. St. John Delßey 314 324 1 a Carson's Creek ia pars 40 all C o bre Copper 474 484 5 1 Colonial Gold i P l 4 ... 14 Copiapo St. all Copper Min. of Eng 6O 70 25 all Do. Pref. 74 p. cent 7 Bp , 5 all English and Austin Copper Smeltg. Co 24 d 20 all General l4 16 2 2 all Great Nugget Vein 4 4 p 3 all Great Polgoca. l4 4 d 1 all Lake Bathurst fi 4 d 1 all Liberty id Par 1 all Lond.&Californ•Gold Quartz Crush. Co a 1 all Mariquita.. 10 9 Mexican&S.Americn 64 74 1 all N e w Granada 44 —— 4 p 1 all Nouveau Monde 1 1;5 1 :Port Philip 1 all !Quartz Rock id i 3 / 4 P 50 all :Rhymney Iron 23 —25 i 15 :Do. :New 64 74 30 104iSautiago de Cuba..... 34 44 I 1 all South Australian..... 4 d.— par 10 7 (Tin Croft 6 8 284 all United Mexican 34 4 3,i. 1 all Waller g - 4 d 1 all West Granada g - 4 d 1 all West Mariposa.. , a i d 4 1 all Yuba 4 i d 1 JOINT-STOCK BANKS. 40 all IA ustralasia Bl 83 814 40 all : Eritish Colonial Bank ... •• • I and Loan Company 50 all (British N. AmerZ can ... ••• 20 2 IChrtd. Bnk.of India, Austral., and China 4 ip 24 25 5 'Chrtd. bilk. of Asia. Ad par 100 25 Colonial 100 20 :Commercial of Lond. ... ... xil 20 10 :English Scottish and I Australian Chrtd par— ili p 101 20 1 14London Chrtd. Bnk. I of Australia - - 24 p 50 20 'London an d Count y ... ... 50 10 London Joint Stock ... ... xd. 100 20 Loud.andWestminst. ... ... 100 35 National Provincial of England 20 1 10 ; Do. New • -- ••• 50 22a National of Ireland ... •• • 25 all :Oriental Bank Cor. poration. 100 25 Provincial of Ireland ... ••• 10 , all IDo. New.. — ... 5 1 IloyalAustraln. Bkg. and Gold Imp. Co 1 (.1— par 25 125 !South Australia 44 —46 ••• 25 all Union of Australia 7l 73xd 724 xd. 241D0. New 8 N 50 1 10-l Union of London - 40 1 ail ,Union of Madrid ! I i ... MISCELLANEOUS 100 35 ',Australian Agricult.l 32 31 321 4 31 — 20 10 I Australsn.Pcific. Maill .., .., 10 7 Australn. Royal Mail ... ••• 50 384 Brit. American Land 64 67 100 326!Canada 5 5 Crystal Palace l4 2 p 64 i 4 4 Crystal Pal. of France 1. 4 24 20 1 Eastern Steam • 1 1 Electric Teleg. of Ir ... ••• 15 14 Gen. Steam Navigat ... ... 20 14 General Screw Steam ••• .. 20 5 Irish Beetroot Sugar ... ..: 1 all Nat. Pat. Steam Fuel ... .. . 10 3 Netherlands Land Ad par °4- 20 74 Nrth.ofEuropeSteam •.• . " 50 all Peninsular & Oriental ••• ... 50 25 Do. 100 60 Royal Mail Steam ... ... _ ••• 25 25 South Austral. Land 37 39 38 1 all Submar. Telegraph.. ... ... 5 2 Univeral Emigration and Colonization.... ... 100 284IVan Dieraen's Land 16 17 MARKET NEWS-{THIS DAY.) COLONIAL. SUGAR.—The demand has been limited both for export and home use. Still prices are not lower. There is no increase in the demand for duty-paid. Refined has been brisk for home-made goods. Brown grocery lumps 465. The quantity of British plantation landed last week at East and West India Docks was 1,453 hhds., 66 tierces, 514 barrels ; there were taken for home consumption 3,637 hhds., 206 tierces, 807 barrels. The stock in the same places is 12,791 hhds., 1,990 tierces, 4,407 barrels. COFFEE.—There has been more demand for plantation Ceylon, especially coloury sorts. Former terms are easily obtainable. Mocha is firm, but not much asked for. Rum.—The quantity landed last week at the East and West India Docks was 574 puns. 3 hhds. ; there were taken for home consumption 249 puns. 8 hhds., and ex ported 67 puns. 75 hhds. The stock in the same places is 9,207 puns. 448 hhds. RICE.—At auction 683 bags Bengal were all taken in at 12s. to 12s. 6d. per cwt. The market is dull. TALLOW.—P. Y. C. is 52 5. 6 d. per cw t. on the spot, and town 535. 6d. This article droops. TEA.—The demand for home consumption does not im prove, and the exports are trifling. HAY MARKETS. SMITHFIELD.—OId meadow hay, 4/ 5s to 5/ 12s ; new ditto, 2/ 12s to 41 Os ; old clover, 5/ Os to 6/ Os ; new ditto, 3/ 12s to 4/ 15s ; and straw 1/ 8s to 1/16s per load. A moderate supply, and a sluggish demand. CIIMBERLAND.—OId meadow hay, 4/ 5s to Si 15s Od ; new ditto, 2/ 13s to 4/ Os ; old clover, 5/ Os to 6/ Os ; new ditto, 3/ 103 to 4/ 15s ; and straw, 1/ 8s to 1116 s per load. Trade steady, at our quotations. WHITECFIAPEL.—OId meadow hay, 4/ 4s to W 12s; ne w ditto, 2/ 15s to 4 / Os; old clover, 5/ Os to 6/ Os; new ditto, 3/ 103 to 4/ Os ; and straw, 1/ 8s to 1/ Supply m oderately good, and trade rather dull.l6s per load. LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(TRIS DAY. LONDON, Aug. 9.—Wind this day at Noon, Easterly, and fine. MARGATE, Aug. B.—Part of the stern of a Fren ch vessel has been passed this side of the Knock, by the Pan dora, arrived here. DEAL, Aug. B.—Wind, E. by N. Arrived—Joven Ni- cofao, Bahia. Aug. 9 (10 a.m.)—Wind, N.E. Quebec ; Victory, Denmark. COWES, Aug. 8. —Wind, variable. Sailed—Conquest, Civita Veechia. FALMOUTH, Aug. B.—Arrived—Witch of the Wave, Brown, Odessa. Off Port—Maid of the Isles, St. Helena ; National, Bahia. PORTSMOUTH, Aug. B.—Wind, variable. Arrived— ' H.M.'s at. Terrible, Westward ; H.M.'s at. Magicienne, Channel. SOUTHAMPTON, Aug. B.—Arrived—Colville (a), Carentan. Sailed—Teviot (s), West Indies ; Madrid (s), Gibraltar. BRISTOL, Aug. B.—Wind, E Arrived—Minnet, Sa vannah. Sailed—ldes, Demerara ; Flora, Newfoundland. LIVERPOOL, Aug. B.—Wind, N.W. to W. Arrived — Furst, Alexandria ; Angelo, Constantinople. Sailed — Alice Gill, Montreal ; Piscator, Newfoundland ; Chi, Malta , Washington, Melbourne ; Robert Ritson, Cal cutta ; Mayflower, New Orleana ; W. V. Kent, Philadel phia ; Niagara, New YON ; Countess of London, Quebec ; Fairy, Newfoundland ; Nassau Belle, Alexandria ; Fidget, Sailed—Waverley, Malaga. LY HINGTON, Aug. 6.—The Lady Dundas was in contact off Lowestoft, July 23, with the Gleanor, of Woodbridge ; stove jolly-boat, and received other damage, GLOUCESTER, ; paoiait, sAalniuog..l s.—Bride, — ed ß — ri F d e e r , os ( L e F b o e rt c. unata, ibra SHIELDS, Aug. B.—Wind, W. Sailed —Arlington, Philadelphia ; Florence, and Liverpool, New York. HULL, Aug. B.—Wind, W.N. W. Arrived—Rapid, and Peter Johansen, Riga. Sailed—Revolin, Odessa ; Hilda, and Johanna Christina, Riga ; Columbine, New York ; Tancredi . , Constantinople. SALECOAIBE, Aug. B.—Arrived —Enterprise, andßichard, Callao. Sailed—Queen of the West, Mediterranean. JERSEY, Aug. 7.—Sailed—Spy, St. Vincent. GUERNSEY, Aug. 6.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Vesta, Hjoer. Sailed -America, New York. WATERFORD, Aug. 6.—Wind, N.N.E. Barthe, Salonica. ConK, Aug. 6.—Wind, N.W. Anived—Amazone, Quebec ; Watchword, Gaiatz. Sailed- Lee, Constan tinople. STETTIN, Aug. 4.—A. vessel, with two men upon it, was saes to capsize off Treptow, July 29, by the Eybe (s), which bore down for her, and took off the master and a sailor, and landed them at Sunie Munde ; name and voyage of Vie vessel not stated, Arrived xd 130 20 1 40 - 4 ^ 111': - 122 1 2 0 1 18 I 5 P - 261 - 105 5#1 1 1031 par i PI 1 d 1 1! —1! 2 2 4 2 d 4 2 p ) 26 1 • 7i - 4 - l i t 11 - li - 7i - 1351 - 36} 14 - 8.1 - 46 • - 43 - 371 -- 14 20 - r, d It 1 1-d - 61 pi 4 2 dis 1043 -- 2 38 1 7i 9i 8i 21 pm illb te• - .t. of '1 Of M• his n ee on ira- e en doll rest 7cleo ring r re; s of the k ill' itish that a to FOR: IIGN. 117 25