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by the Conspirators, not for the purpose of making powder, but were made use of to fill Rockets and other Comoustibles. Two persons were in the place at tlee time the explosion happened, who were near ly suffocated; one in endeavouring to open a window e4os the arteries of his arm and bled to death, and the other was taken before a Magistrate nearly suf. focated, but no infermation whatever could be de rived from him. That day or the day after, two persons were discovered carrying a barrel of ball. cartridges, which were set down at the door of a house, but the occupiers disclaiming any knowledge of the circumstance, and the Habeas Corpus not be ing then suspended, no infOrmation could be ob tained upon the subject. He now came to the zad of July—Upon this subjed he must observe, that a Letter was sent to the Secretary of State, ,but which from accident did not reach him till a week after the affair had happened. On the 21st General Fox waited upon the Lord Lieutenant, who commu nicated to him the only new faft of which he was in possession, which arose from the information of Mr. Clarke, a repeetable manufafturer in Dublin, who came to the Castle in the course of that day to state, that from appearances amongst his workmen he h.ai reason to believe that a 'Rising was intended. Mr. Chalice was desired to get further information, and it was remarkable that on the next day, Friday, he came again, and stated t)oat his alarm was groom!. less. Gentlemen. had argued that Goverianset au g ht to have been informed of all the fads as they were now known ; if they meant to say that Goveioment was surprized, he denied it, as they did all that could be done upon such an occasion. It was then said that the information given to Go vernment was slighted ; this he also denied. To prove this, he read three letters, from persons of the names of Clarke, Aylmer, and young, contradisa ing the reports that they, in giving information, bud been treated with slight or neglea by the Go. v eminent. On the 22,1, as he had stated, Mr. Clarke declared his apprehensions groundless, but the next day, Saturday morning, he came again %vial a different opinion, and it was not etc til then that Government were informed that something was inreeded that night. Mr. Clarke came again, and requested that the Lord Lieutenant might be %sok:en to. Mr. Marsden in consequence wrote, and requested the Lord Lieutenant to come to Town. The Lord Lieutenant and the Com mander in Chief cone to Town in consequence, and Mr. Maasoaar stated to them the information he had received. It had been said, that the Go. vernment were surprized—he would ask whether the Gevernment were surprized when they had this information at two or three o'clock in the after. noon on the z3d, and when there were 4000 men in Garrison at Dublin. With resped to informa tion, it was extremely difficult to get at ; the Lit was only known to eight persons—,Emmet had 3,0001. in his own hands, the whole of which lie laid out in a speculation of Rebellion, which rendered it of course more difficult for Goverrtiment to know much about it. A great deal had been said about the number of arms found ; in point of t - ,fa he believed that a great number of pikes were found, but he believed not more than 4000; and with resped to the statement made by his Noble Friend up. on this suljed,the information came from the man who made the Pikes. He believed the whole number of guns found in the Deoo'n was four muskets, twelve blunderbusses, rather more than 3000 Pikes, and twelve cases of pistols. He had stated what infor matiNn the Government were in possession of at three o'clock in the afternoon on the 23d ; at five o'clock a Letter was written by Mr, Marsden to Colonel Manby (which he read), desiring him to take additional precautions for the security of the Artillery and Ordnance Deatat at the Pigeon House. It was evident therefore, he, contended, that the Governimtnt were not surprized. His Noble Ftiend had alluded to the Garrison of Dublin, which eel). sisted of four thousaml men, and which, for such a City as Dublin, might certainly be consider ed a superabundant force. A great deal had been said about the Sepeeintendapt Magistrate and the Lord Mayor. The former was informed of what was. expeded early in the day, and there was a Letter foam the High Constable, who was also a Magistrate and Assistant to Mr. Alder. man Alexander (which he read) directing the Peace Officers to assemble, as a riot was expected in the evening. In the Letter to Colonel Manby ire was desired to take precautions without exciting alarm. Upon this snlaied much had been sa id ; but ha should like to k n ow why precautions could nut be taken Withoot exciting alarm. The passage in one of the Letters, which had been more par. ticul,4rly alluded to, related to the stoppage of the Mail Coaches ; and he would ask whether i t would have been prudent or politic to give a general alarm throughout the Country by the stoppage of the Mail Coaches, or any such coca. - sure ? A great deal had likewise been said about the postscript of a lettei from the Lord Lieutenant, stating, that he supposed' the Commander in Chief had additional information. The Hon. Baronet (Sir J. WROTTESLEY) had only read the postscript, which put him in mind of reading the letter itself: Col. A yam R having given information to the Lord Lieutenant of an intended attack upon the Lalge in the Phenix Park, tie Lord Lieutenant wrote to General Fox acquainting him with the information lie hid received. After the Lord Lieutenant had finished the letter there ,carne a reinforcement of thirty Met' to the guard in the Phoenix Park, which induced the Lard Lieutenant to ad.l a postscript, asking whether in conseq:i . nce of the. reinfoteement being' sent, General Fox :lad received any fresh in_ telligence, conceiving that General Fox Might have received from *other quarters information relative to an intended attack upon the Lord Lieutenantts re aidence in the Plimnix Pask.,He had no desire to enter into any general discussion of the question; so far as his ruble Relatioo was concerned he invited investigation. He' had merely confined himself to a statement of fads. Mr. CANNING explained. Mr. FOX said, before he entered into a discus_ sioni of the present Question, he wished to say a few words as to the 'situation in which the Right Honouranle Gentleman stood with rcsped to the Lord Lieutenant, and with respect to the rela tive situation in which he (Mr. Fox) stood with another per Son who held a situation in the Irish Government. The Right Hon. Gentleman had . „ 83k1 that he would not oppose the Motion, and no doubt in that respen consulted his Parliamentary duty, hut he (Mr. Fox) went further, and said that he would vote for the Motion, in doing which he laid claim to the title of a better brother. There was one circumstance hc, had to eomplairoof, and o f which he ban often complained, he meant the read. ing of garbled extraEtsfrom letters, all which would necessarily come before a Committee which would have power to send for persons and papers. He was convinced that in the letters which had issued from the Castle upon the subject, there would be found a continual caetion against giving unneces .sary alarm, and that the Right Honourable Gentleman knew that individually to be the fatt, although he might not know it as a Member of Parliament. It had been said that two no tices of Motion upon this subjeCt had been given by an Hon. Relation of his (Admiral BERKE LEY), but that Hon. Relation had withdrawn his notice, in consequence of an explanation given by, the Right Hon. Gentleman, e hich certainly cught to be con,idered as satisfaCtory. He would ask, hoNever, whether, when they-imputed blame to General Vox, alley did not also impute blame to Lerd He eewICKE ? The ceolness which took place bet ween Lard Hentwicke aad General Fox did not arise. previeus to the eel of July, nor until some d iys afterwards, It was then, when they perceived the impressien reade upon all England by the condua of the Irish Government, that the Lord Lieute. nant eielea vowed to shift the blame off his own shoulders to those of - General Fox. It had been said that the latter had not been recalled, but had resigned ; the letter, however, to General Fox expressly stated, that in consequence of the wish expressed for his recall by the Lord Lieutenant, he thought it necessary to resign. He then referred to a paragraph in the Dublin Journal of the loth of February, refleaing upon his Bro ther, and asked whether any thing was inserted in that Paper disagreeable to Government ? He con sidered, in his owe mind, that an inquiry ought undoubtedly to be granted, in order that they might have complete proof as to the conduit of the Irish Government. There were many points of the No ble Lord's defence which were completely untenable. It had, been asked, why nut suffer an Irish Member to propose an inquiry ? He remembered that it was an argument used against the Union, that out - of the too Members for Ireland, there never would be fiend one who would - attempt to oppose the Ministry. It had been said that what had been stated by his Hun. Friend, General TARLE TON, was mere hearsay : if they refused to go into a Committee what evidence had they but hearsay ? With respect to serpriza, it did not fellow because the Irish Government was surprized, that therefore it was criminal ; toe ablest Generals might be sur prized, but when the Noble Lord said the Gavern. went were not surprized, all his arguments tended to spew that they Were surprized. It had been said that the Irish Government had information upon the subjea at three o'clock, on the 23t1, but it had net been shewn that they edere not eventually sur prized. He contended that there was priar4 facie evidence suffieient to call for inquiry into the con. dust of the Irish Government. As to what had been said respeCting the precautions taken, it rested upon the principle that the Lord Lieutenant had made communications to the Commander in Chief, The Right Hon. Gentleman had said that General Fox came to town late on the et st, when the Lord Lieutenant said he had nothing new to communicate, but requested him to call on Saturday ; this had been explained by stating that the Lord Lieutenant had mentioned the inforum!ion in his letter, and had then nothing more to cotnetunicate. Then it had been said that the Lent Lieutenant received a letter from Mr. Marsden, in consequence of which he came to town with the Contrntr,der in Chief, but the fallacy here was, that Gen. Fox was supposed to have the same intelligence as the Lord Lieutenant. It was however ti be remembered, that the Lord Lieutenant had been in Ireland two years with 6o,00tel• a year to expend in secret - service money, whilst General Fox had been only there two months, and a' part of that upon a Tour. What was General F,,x to do ? He could only take. the intelligence in the sense given to it by the Lord Lieutenant—aed when he cbserved that the latter called no Privy Council, nor sent any notice to the Lord Chancellor, and left the Castle for the Phcznie Park, what was General Fox to think but that the Lord Lieutenant, ateengst many false alarm., considered this as one. If an approaching insurreCtion was feared, he wished to know why His Excellency the Lnd" Lieutenant went to the Phoenix Park when he was then: more more ex posed to danger, whilst his presence at the Castle would leave given energy, and spirited on the Loyalists ? He hop-. be should not hear of the Courage and Magnanimity of the Lord Lieutenant in going to the Phmnix Park, where he was exposed to greater danger without being of any utility, instead of remaining at the Castle, where be would have been in no danger from the number of Guards surrounding him, and where his presence would have been of essential use. The Lord Lieutenant, however, goes to the Phoenix Park, the Commander in Chief . to Kiltnainham, the Lord Mayor goes to his Villa, and Alderman Alex_ ,antler, the Superintending Magistrate, to his villa. It was ridiculous to suepose, that any of those per_ sons could have ;my idea of impending insurrettion. Then came a triumphant statement el the instruc tions given to the Co o ,t a ble i t o s uppress the inStlr realoll. It had been said that the Lord Lieutenant had previously sugge red to this Government, the propriety of suspending the Habeas Corpus, Thi s , however, came in somewhat aukwardly with what had been said, that they w a i te d for strong grounds in order to establi , h strong measures ; but how much biocd.hed aright h ive been prevented by preventive measeres in time It had been said 1 . that a garrison of four thousand men was suf. ficient fur the proteetion of DUblin, and so he thought, but not unless they were properly distri buted ; with this the Commander in Chief had no thing to do, as they ought to have been dispersed in different places, to be ready at the call of the civil Magistrates. It had been said that the Insur reetion was contemptible, and yet strong meas.utes had been called throno only this, but strong measie - cs had been previously suggested as proper by the Government, in Consequence of thc state of the Country ; and yet at that very time Ministers said thin Ireland was in a state of profound tranquil. lily, and this too at a time when, according to the opinion of Lord Redesdale, the Conspiracy ex tended all over the Country. With respeet to the Letters of that Noble • Lord, they had been told by an Hon. Gentleman (Mr. DAwsoN) that it was indiscreet to discuss them. It was certainly some triumph to the Iriabliano . nohat an English Chan cellor had written LeFfies upon such a subject ; the only indiscretion equal to which would be that of discussing them. • He again complained of garbled extraas Irom Letters being - read by the Right Hon. Gentleman, Mr.:Secretary Your. Mr. Secretary Yoaits said, across the Table, that Mr. Fox might see them. • Mr. FOX said the House ought to see them. An Inquiry of this nature, was not, he said, necessary tip be instituted by an Irish Member, as he was as much a Member for any County or City in Ireland as for Westminster. He concluded by pressing the Inquiry, for which he contended there were prima facie grounds arising out of the circumstances at tending the late Insurreetion. [The extreme lateness of the hour at which the House adjourned, precludes us from stating little snore than the names of the subsequent Speakers.] Lord C AST LERE n c n spoke in explanation. Mr. DALLAS, at some length, argued against the Motion. Dr. LAWRENCE combated the arguments of the Learned Gentleman, considerably in detail. The ATTORNEY GEN-ER A L spoke against the Motion. Lord DE I 3 L A out ERE, in a very neat and pointed Speateli, supported the Motion. • Mr. kViNDH AM supported the Motion, and manifested his accustomed talent, in a Speech of considerable length. Mr. Ti ERNEy opposed the Motion. Mr. Fox, in a short explanation, alluded to the Paragraph respecting the Business, which appeared in one of the Dublin Prints ; which, he said stamped the charader of the Pay masters of that Paper. Mr. G Rai spoke at some length, and warmly urged the Inquiry. In the course of his Speech, he strongly animad verted upon the consistency of his Right Hon. friend (Mr. TIERNEY), as manifested by his Speech that night, and al luded to his idea of the degree of decorum which Gentlemen should observe in changing their opinions. He was very se vere upon his Right Hon. Friend's idea, that the affair of the 23d of July, with the exception of the murder of Lord Kil warden, was no more than a paltry tumult and riot, and had produced no important consequence. Did he esteem the death of a Field Officer, and the loss of near forty lives, be. sides suspending the Habeas Corpus At, and subjecting Ireland to Martial Law, Nothing ? Mr. Ti ER NEY explained, that his meaning was, that with the exception of Lord Kilwarden's death, the affair did not appear to him to be of sufficient magnitude for an object of Parliamentary Inquiry. Mr. WI 7euftwi.l spoke in explanation. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, In a Speech of some length, oppesed the Motion. He vindicated the con duit of die Government of Ire;and, civil and military, in the affair in question ; against whom he insisted no imputa tion whatever of negiett or delinquency could fairly be laid. Adverting to the recent parliamentary conduit of a Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. ‘ViNnunia), he said, he appeared to relapse with uncommon rapidity into his former Intuits and mode of aeting, and to lose sight of those princi ples whicli had governed his conduit for the last ten years. General TnELErroN and the CHANCELLOR of the Ex c HEQU ER reciprocally explained, in the courseof which the former insisted that lie had brought forward strong and ma terial facts, to spew the necessity of the Inquiry, and that he could have adduced many more, were he so illaWd • Mr. C ALca we e spoke with considerable ability in support of the Motion. Colonel Hu rcnlNsoti, after requesting the Motion to be read, said, that as tar as it respeCted the conduct of Lord HA R W e, throughout the whole of his Administration, it should have his decided negative, but if the inquiry were in regard of the insult given to a gallant General, it should have his support; or were the inquiry with respect to the general condutt of Ministers in regard to Ireland, it should have his hearty approation. He took occasion to mention certain Letters written by a person in an important Office in Ireland, which, lie said, were a cruel in,ult upon the People oc Ireland, and upon sortie of His Majesty's loyal Subjects. Sir 'OUST IVROTTILSLEy spoke at some length in reply, and successfully vindicated his own motives in coining for ward on the present occasion. Tire ATTORNIty-OENERAL spoke shortly in explanation. The Question, which was loudly called for. several times in the latter part of the Debate, was then put, when a Divi sion took place : for the Motion • • 8z Against it , - • 178 Majority - 96 At HALF PAST Foug O'CLO CK the House adjourned to the usual Hour this day. MAILS. •11,R111111• flamburgh 3 PRICE OF STOCKS, Testa DAY AT TWELVIi. O ' CLOCK. Consols - - - - - - 5611 THE SUN. SOLEM QUIV.OMERE FALSUM AUDEA.I" ? LONDON, MARCH 8, 18o+. " Queen's Muse, March 8, 1 8 0 4. " There is no material alteration in His 11140Esti since yesterday. (Signed) " L. Piers. F. IVlxtuArz. `6 H. R. RLYKOLDS. " W. fitaLRDLN." LAST night a very interesting Debate took place in the House of Commons, on the Motion of Sir JOHN WROTTESI,EY, on the suhjet of the Insur, reftion in Dublin on the 23d of July last. Neither Mr. PITT nor. Mr. SHERIPAN Were present. At hill past four a division took place, when the Mi. ouster, out of z6o present, had a Majority of 96. THE Embargo which we mervioned yesterday as hiving been laid on the Port of London, extends to all the Out ports, except upon the Convoysbound down Channel. Various causes have been assigned for this measure, but the real one remains a secret with Go. vernment, It is said to be, to prevent the Enemy from having intimation of some design which is on foot. Whatever the design may be, there is ter. tainly no appearance of its being of very great mag. nitude. According to the belief of some,. it is in. tended to sinliz some -old Dutch Vessels in the mouth 'of 13uulogne IlarboUr. We shall be happy to see • . • any thing attempted in that quarter. According to the conjecture of others i :some change may be me. ditated at home, 'may be important , to prevent the Enemy ; knowing till all the arrange. ments are completed. The Embargo it nut ex. peEted t 9 last above ten days. NAVAL NEWS. PORTS/7101/TH, MARCH 7. —An Ernivirgl "cacti this day laid on ail Shies and Vessels, ey,:c.epr the Convoys bound down Channel. Arrived the Marquit Cornwallis, RIcHARDSON, from the Downs, for India ; Venus, HOMEit from London; and Fidelity, WILLIAMS, from Bristol. DEAL, MARCH 7. —His Majesty's Bombs Ex- Nosio/r and Etna came down from the Nure, and re main. Sailed the Leda, Harpy, Locust, 3aclall, Mira Starling, and Mi'brook Schooner un a Cruize off Boulogoe. The Canton East India Ship came down fr olll the Rivet, and remains. DUEL. WE yesterday mentioned that a Duel had taken place between Lord CAMELEDItII and a Mr. 1 3657 " The foilowing are some further particulars resP e6l " ing it ; Yesterday morning, about half part seven o'clock, these two Gentlemen, attended -by their Seconds , met, agreeably to appointment, on the road near the White Horse Public-house, at the end of the lane leading up in Holland House, to fight a Duel. The cause of quarrel arose about Mrs. SimmoNDsi who has lived some time with his Lordship, a' l l who had represented to htin, that Captain BasT used her very ill, and spoke to her in disrosno 6ful terms of Lord C. Lord CAME OFoRD, in consequenC e, went on Tue.Alay in search of Crp7ain BEsr, meeting him in the afternoon, at the Prince of Wales ig Coffee-house, Conduit -street, addres s ed him in t h l public Coffee-room, in very strong terms, :I N ' charging him with ungentlemanly condod. The consequence was, that Captain BEST retired, a" immediately sent a Challenge to Lord CAM ELFOa 9. All the points respeCting the meeting being a r k ranged, bosh parties, yesterday morning, called a l Mi. Doa AT'S, Serge o n, in B ruton-street ; but di not find that Ge n tleman a t h ome . Th e y v/C rig immediately to the appointed place of rendezo L t Lord CAM ELFOLD and his friend in a bacl4kei coach ; and Mr. BEST and his friend on horset" both parties unattended by either Surgeon or set!o r ' They proceeded up the l a ne t o ge t h e r, and . 111 C' re alighted, faste n i ng t he ho rs e s to t h e gate at the" d of the lane, and discharging the coacninan, Hav in g crossed the hedge, they took their station on a g reen at the back of Lard HooLAND's kitchen garden, two of whose servants, and a hair-tifeSSer, saw th erm treasure the ground, but did not conceive their to ? " five. Having taken their position, they fired oar 1 at the. same time, and Lord CAmitoroao which Mr. B. and the others cone up to him , supposing him expiring, they left him, and tra de The spectators immediately went to the spur, 1 ..4 " found him stretched on the wet g rou nd, C ing very much. Having consult e d for s tae time, they a greed to carry hi m to t h e White Ha u se Public-h o u s e, but Mr. OTTY, Chief Clerk ni. t t l` Navy Of fi ce, and Captain of' the Kensington V °' lunteers, happening to arrive from his house (which is siMatc.d about the centre of the lane, and ccta:' roonly known by the name of Little Holland loons he bad his Lordship conmayed,io it. anti put to - in a room on the ground floor. Mr.4rer immediately sent for medieal sisi gt c having probed the wound, found chat t, ", shee t l e itad who, entered -the upper part of the right breas t, and lodged in the shoulder blade in the back M l ' His Lordship, though in great agony, expresso his forgiveness of Mr. 8. and, with very gi e4t nerosily, declared himself to . be in fault. His Lordship's lite was entirely despaired Of f: . 0 1 some time ; but from one until two o'clock in r o v afternoon he w as m u ch better, ,and about three the wound after, Meg"' Krtiottr:gaannd cu {,, a ti 'whe . n. lli : • Lordship, was able to take, some refreshment ; b u t apprehensions were still entertained that an inner:4 bleeding would defeat all the precautions resO r ' r ., 1.9. The symptoms become gradually more fa yo • able, and, a t five o'clock some hui.;es were.eni, r o rained of his Lordship's recovery. Hi s b itot. l° became st ill mor e flattering about seven, he hav in ,.. :best .voided the bail, and th e o pi n i on o f t he $ l. geons b eca me of course m ore f avoura bl e , tie r When questioned as to the n a m es o f t he °, 1 .f ., 0 Gentlemen who had acco m p an i e d l i iM, hi s Loro-,„a declined giving any satislAion on th e subjertt * sa id h e knew nothing of them, The Hon. Mr.,D E V ERRUX (son of Lord ffF v g. / 5. Foal)) was Second t o L o rd CAME LFORD I anti ''•r. NIHELL Second to Mr. )3ES-T. Yesterday morning, between nine and ten °c lo cks the iatelligence arrived at the Marquis of liv, c7 a NCI HAM'S house, who immediately We nt to . 14(1 C.'s lodgings,. sealed all the drawers and desks be ; longing-to his , Lordship,- and- then sent an ex press' Lord GRENVILLE with the melancholy intelligenCe' Yesterday a Court of Directors was held at the th g East Indi Mouse, when the followin g C o upna , , rink leave previous to departing for destinations, viz. Captain G. RIC/JAM:I%ON, 't t,llrie Dover Castle, for Si. Helena a: , d ; H. PENDAWEi rfREMENAIRE, of trie Alta, Coast and Bay. Captain JAMES TURNBULL, of the Lord thit 4 u kes ; btru, and SEARLES WOOO, of the Worcester, wtf sworn into their respettive commands. Kr This morning arrived a Mail trom New..Yor brought to Falm uth by the Luke of Alarlbor°lll Packet, in 33 days. s i t \,N7 e have received New-York P a per s to th e :ti i . , c t ult. On m e tzth of January the Pest and of Concord, in Louisiapt, was delivered up w the Americans. We shall give some details to.illorr r . DURHAM ELECTION.—On Tuesday last, TWEDDELL finding a gre it number of trnP ° ` votes against him, declined any turther conies r and Mr. SHAFToE wai declared duly elettni• General PICHEGRU had lodgings at Bral l P- w w e He was there within these ti , ree v. eeks , and i t 0 ,, are well informed, is there still. At all eve"t s ' are certain that he could nor be in Paris at th e re stated in the report of the Frencl; Minister of London: Printed by B. M'MILLAN of 1 ;O µ- 11 (J'` Covent-garden ; and P a olis,i c d by W ILL IAM ScR. t Pes Cot . South Moltov -street, Grosvenot. s q ualej kip. 1l; tra,tl4. ----"'