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The Pi,tbirp IZOC "TEST UP, in explanniln ) shortly obset . l. l ,, that it was on di general prin. ciplic that he 'pr3deededl The further consideration r)f the Bill was titer* adjourned t 6 this (lay se!nnig! tt. - The Eartqf ROSLYN addressed their Lordships , at some length respetling thit circumstances (as .we could colleCt) of the Windser"lethest :Enclosure Bab arid conclnkitd by. moving, ..that the Order • made : yesterth l y fc;r rcferr f iut..certai h parts of the,s4l,pill to the cot sideratioA of the Jinises, be rescinded.' The LORdI C 11/O:47ELLO 14itia:the Wool.' sack; and shertly ohservcil tci :the ardi as we could, hear, that he agreed to die, .-Mojiun of .tits, Noble. and 'Learned Lord, in Cohseirenre of the cOnserit of the individuals concernea-brim;;obtaiheti for omit. tinghbe Clause-objeaed to. • , After a few-wards from the. Far' of..WtiA,, the till, dralersteihd, was ortitred . tO be :read a se. cored time.. 1 :" • . The Order or.the att.for taking liiis.,l4l,uiesty's IVles:sagc into co4ideratioito - cspeCting the custo. . teary V(ste of Cr iits being:Tead, 7/0.8,4/0' immediately rose, .and rho*, ett a suitable:Address too Ills MM Eyr: on cie occasion, Which meeting die . ..unanimous concurrence of their was akic;.:d to z)c.orflingly, and 'the format resr r otA to the*,presentation of the same, ordered tp take.place in coseUence. :the further comidexation of the Greenock Fort Dili was adjourned till tti.mOrrow.• • . • Lord ItotA“ accit;ainecd .the .qousi, thit lie t4iouid to.morrow Eitolre that the Clerical Eligibility • till be read a second,,titne , The Duke of Pateity •ireselited certaih boat]_ trients rclatiV'e 'to the (2,ualitications of certain Ofti tcrs in the ize.. in pursuance, we. believe, tan their Lordships • to Iits . MAIEsTY• Several Bills were btought vp from the Commons, which being . read.a first time; and ‘crie. private hu. sines disposed of, adjourned till to..inorrcw.. :- • 'NOUSE commd.. • :,1 z 0... A rtp.c.,4 .trolp the Treasury ptesented.an pc... Of the number- of all , Vessels that have sailed from any of the Torts Preat'Brirain, to ail 'parts Or the World, front the 25th of January t lig, to the 'lsth of Janttary tBat, Which. was ordered to be -printed. County Bridges' Bill went .throtigha;.Com.. iiiittee[ and the Repoit . Was Ordered to be re&ived tb~'t arrow. . . • • On the Motion orMr. 'the Corrittit4, lee 'On the'-Insolvent, Debtors' - Bill, was 'tfelef'rett till, ,IVlorchtY next. ' ' r • The, Bill for, the better Ciilleetion of Pines and TOrleitUies, third'ttne,lnd pII.,ITARY -.SEMINARY. --• The.-Report of the-Committee ofSupply for; the ered i fill of a IVlilirary.aeininary,'A nd' atv Asylum 'for , the edimation "of the Orphans:4 'oltiiers,../icc. ••• . • 11 . 1 . br Might up. • n • • • • fi rst Rewlut ion-being • • • Gooreral--fVALPOLI et pressed his disappeoba: 'tion of the measure : he,thought entirely unne— cessary, and that. its only effeft .would.be to increase the influence of, the Crown, and .to ,destroy °what remains • of the Constitution; by - ,,rentleriog, the COLintry, altogether a Military .oute. N such Insti; ration existed when the Military, fame; ..of..this •Country wait: at. the highett, ancKwhen-the Duke of MAR LS UK condueted the 'British' Army- to • .Viaory. ..:kliifieweci that it is net licceisary, for securing sadcess to the Country'. • In his pi4iotl it .would . be a 10tiCil more becoming plan . for 1441p13t4, of the Cre)wn to give up the iafluince which accrues • to theta, from the, 'diwpOl of Pkoinotions in the Army,:and idvance alficers soiely.pn the ground of_meri t' and former services: them encouriige Officers, to: improve theatstiv .es :.vilitt4ry science, • by:holding. out -to them a certain' reward -for,t( eir : exertions ; let thent.enforee, striet, Military resppn: s ibility,•• but .let thtinl not ,infcinge..nn the - principles and.- praCtice of the Constitution,btadOliting such 4 measure- •.a. this, . • Col. WOOL) disSented totally ,from the 'semi. ments.expresed by tk:Jlo:..ourable c..itagelgoan who • lod ju-st,'spt. down. • Fie - :illowed that. 'the Military Fame akin Glory of this Country hati•lxen , ,i;lizieti to the -greatest height, at different.,4e4osls. when, • such aninstitution, ai: - diat.rfow prolgvi ec t4,l x.„ : c ..11tzt•eirCtunstanee's- w4re rery - , - rli:te).ent at periods, 'from tbo,t,e -rico/ otiot. : The of,.,the-nemy is,-.ittetetthedl it ,is an 4rMed -I\4tion with whielOicOtee to 'contend. .Their 3kincipl4s and their'arnbition ,:lre suet? a 'nature, rrs teo:reeitilre the adopkitiiiivetc'bf,new , roe4swcs . t - n1 the, part of this. cOuntry .. ; to ,sce4ll,it,against bock t bele Euro would. , gile.,thit . supper. ./• .1 - 4e4:EaR.E,L4RY rit•Wi"Jß.st4ted . . 3 - lo e ; that this. measote. had. nat 7 been proposed.. to_liarli3, '- mitts till after Tall and doe delibef . aion, atA.Tkat. it -bat imen &Arca .1.347 thet.omipancter in Chief end 5011* of. -the ,a1.11044 , .' Officers in‘the , service,' • ',ln- • opinion, if the different regolafiOns oflbe.,l3ill art ; attended to, no;daner tlipretientlea (roll it to the Liberties at the Country.. A-le allowed it to. be, true, that grocglory, has been,acqui r red by the.tlrmiesof this .couvitry . , when no such ittScitu: .gion existed, but ,the que3tion. is; if still kteater• Military_ ip,,actlitired; an4gretiter glory obtained., under such.ap iiv; tut lon . as - thatiVfiw, proposed ?.I belie velj tit NV ill not, be disputed , tliaeof late the greatest attention has been Hid to ,the adv.itticunent and employment . cf the ablest and most meritorious - Officers, . kr:inn:l - AREA!) ti iouot allowipg the . erlcou: ragernerit of `lVlilitay Science to he, the neeessary, operation of the proposed ,institution, that the' ex. pence was much greater than the, objea would au: thorize, and that it might be carried into effeet at a much less expence than the aniount of the estimate before the House. ble objected also to the Jueisure'' on the ground that it will much too great and a dangerous Nwer and'irdluePec:in' the Connithoder in Chief, whoever he inay 1.4. The proposed Vote of ,30,0001. is propowd merely to. cover tht pence of the erk.(tion of the Intitifution for - the pre.. sent. The whole of the expellee iforl'bulldings alone is estimated at 67,6001. and besidei' this 'therti is a very considerable Annuity to be voted for the support of the institution. This be contended to • be inn etzpence which,. an th,, present eXila‘tist64 -.. l,tid • di.ities'se,L'state Ortheeenntry, &kelt not ',,ttl be curizxl the'cleare.xt grounds of neeeisit , br . policy‘ Acknowledged ethi rig ` let 'recommends..d. frfromHigh Authority, Let sanctioned by the approbation of the Cominailder: in Chief,, but even that High Authority, much as 'he — itinst.-ever re , ipeA it, - could not indUce Mtn to give his consent to such a:measute as that now ptoposed.. ...He %rd. sai./i that the elan may be carried into efreet at a much less expente.,than will be incurred by the meant now proposed: He th6ught that by annex- • Institution to that already fornled.and exlsteiee, it 'Wool wadi, for purposet a''Very Sirni • lar nature, this might be eKCied.' - Besides, great as • the pittsent estitna;expenve 'of 'thi? Institution is, he would Wish to know;if Ministe.rs can give any security that this expellee will not, as has happened in many:instances, be in future increased far . bed and , all original calculation or expeadtion .? . • no SECRETARY at WAR observed, that on inquiry it had been ascertained _that there w,ottld,be. no saving of experice by annexing thiS Institution to the Academy at 'Woolwich, and that matly and great inconVenierteies would have'. resulted from adopting this plan. - As to the' expence'of the Insti tution, he could not pledge hipselfollat it precisely correspond with the Estiina(e,. but that Estirrige was made out by a tw , st able and:lufej.li„ gentlailiCer (Col. MARKHAM) on whose accuracy . he had' Very reason to repose the highest confidence..., • itly.o REY said, when this Resolution was propos cd in the. Committee, lie had contented himself with simply expressing dissent.. He Aid no - t.now mean to trouble the House at any4ength, but he tholight it tio duty shortly to "express the grounds .on he OPPtised it. . Gentlemen, appeared to him • to support, it on a very . partial-principle.. ,They argued for the utility . of, the Institution, without adverting to the evils. which muSt tes.ult from it. They have assumed its utility, which he could not , allow. The-Hon. Gentleman has allowed the former glory of, the. Army of.this Country, when no such Institution existed, but he has stated, that now the power, , skill, and . ainbitiout and clangerou)prin, ciples of the Enemy tequire new-Means uof security to be adopted by, • this Country. dreat - aS may be 'the. discipline, courage, and skill . - of 'the Vrench "Arrhy; and OfACerS; lit presetit; he wOulcl deny that they are greater than those of an Army" of the same . Nation, 'fornied'" unifier etV , 1 , 611 - ' acidF.NNH, 'and edinmat:o44bY,a a' Ckrilist';er . ', ait'd • 'a BE it then the poUier Fie allOwtd that' the power -that Country' has:, by late eVCCITI4 been' much augmented." But it is Yloi greater than' it Was when ' the aike briN.44lituountrolloppOsedandfrustraied *the anibitiOils .view's of hOiits XIV Is it then that hlie *VieWt of'Fiattee , against this Country are of a• Morealfiirtiing,natitrtt Than formerly I , Perhaps it., will he.iirg, iiiiv ta4Countly aims at, the destitiftion of o.urlithetticsAi3dtheoverthro'‘V or our religion. 'ln he w0r:r1d.:'a5k,.:..41 . 61-: was the objedltrost 'eagerly .cherished' and pu'ri'ue4 by 'Louts XIV; at .li6C.tlid estahlishtOnt . of aitsitsary poiser. and .Popery in this Country, by • re- It.::tfing . .1 6.MF.S: the : . ..Second: to its throne ? In' every respect Franee.appettred Inincl, to be as'forMid'.. able to this Country, as it is now. But then it , Kai vet cir irietcirig , th:dango .by, hay-. ing recourse to such a measure 'as : . .pirsent, Natrd yet : th'e-GlorY.of - the Arms of this C9.1 . .111 [TY, was ndver hed,7,bilt, on the. contrary, attained . the highest point . of eininence; Thin the defence of the Country, and . thelNstiraiinti s ' of 'the plzins bar ,,bouted,againir, .its ,Religion and. Libe:tie_s wat left • CO rest on the independent spirit, the.courage; and the zeld ..ofthe Oitintry itseit. I et them- now be left:.;6 test. on . the s4lnv..fOtiodation, :Ind the result bill not be. eliao&ed. T he same independent spirit taid,totliage till ...pci*St,', and has in '.ma.oy instances' beetilatelr dispiaiia: , ...LeaVe to the People their Liberties, and there is i,b•fear • of, their wanting , the tiptri(to &tend, them. ,secare•de. • fence than Milira f ,'". ; gcicinee;, or in Military Tutties... Bot. eirenfbedic itptOVeMent- Officers' in Military Scier►te he Would contend'. that the 'sent ,rucasnreWould not have such effca the' 'einufution,Of•intliv.;dtfirls .14.110111 a , bY !or the 'ad_ liancemetft:anckeyard,of merit Sod skill. if other \Prol'0 1 10 61 ; diaelonq in. , s.44g.lieciulsft:ihi nteriierious is r.dre of: 'reteiNiirtg:tht greatest reward do l l cilk.-ou_ prochig individnals has . been perfealy :silfileilmt to secure, Di.ivatieg.ment.o.f .knOwjeait!'iti Lim -other s , 4l)jei: Look` evert to tile: - 'k4sttn.y of. the Arrrty; and it I,vill',.apl:ear 'that the -same . principle , ha.; .the•,satr,L eifrcrt. `lii 'the Arta .f of the Pitliarient ~of Cl / .1 R. EA the Ffrst; seyer4' very alsl Generals appearici, who lead re, eduettiton, but lyit:pie: must laute,...res - vliiit.•.volely;frpm:...ambition to e eel those wh4.3vere.inrloyed along,,Wfth thern. , To come tci hoW, baye . the'French Generals Molt themstflves since: the Revolution ... been Ibilnert ? They :we re . not educated in Military s4ols : skid, lfas been attained by,4txperie nt.e, and , liy the study of MilitarYSCience; to which th:iy 'were' encouraged by the Certainty of, inOtion . andicWards, and, Ow men have dctimt:: e d.• the - Auitrian Exid::-othe(Generals, 'educated and ritilied • tO tile gill - kitty: art. AS:to the assertion i p ac u by one of ;..Sis Wiltjeptr's Ministeri VoliKit),.thitt of lAte greateratrention than was Le fore 'pli(l.4as been paid to : the, p romotion and em, ploy inen* of the most meritorious and "ablest ©f. ars, he. was not for This - own Orr sufficiently' con. versant in the" history of the. patronage of the Army to be able: •to -Ora) a - decisive judgment dry . , thit poini ; but he knew of . s r tiie ins4ances - , - notorious.. ellollah,of no old date, of Officer 3 h, t,g been pro. lmptetibiertilt headlo.f,o. tke-rron - grQund s very differ. ftoopfl4:9r, petstmtlse rvice.s; 'on&ouotiskQty' '-of-itirt:anA familfintioenee; .:With regard to 64 xpeode . ", of. ,this , F.roposed he could 'not ,het t ) thinking it :Arsty large' and oppreSih.e in the present eircunistatle.ee of .the Country.; and though the Estimate May be .accurate enough in` re-` Bard to tire plan, sO'f4asit - is.ttow.Vrupo4d to be carried," nor security . giv en to the ,Fioume .Or t hl Country, that it" nor in',-the greater, and that this is only, the beginning of the evil. The f/o4se has 'bten told. to consoler this iettente At With - Ig, bee:nue-it .15,-not greater. than I.,tevatil be incl.:tied' b) 'the - etieflit*of :t,...glif fr adit— Ac',l:t&r, he would tokg, Itts:tst , .o,l Barrai.k beetl, &a)niliar to ,theo-14e ? Bltckiatert alktrist un - Itnwn oin this feitt-ty t . - years. T-' When the erection of them was first proposed, - the House was .told, that they would . be ir a very great con've ' n ienee:,-- and. Ilia fAilie eig* t7t7Z, -a slit - thil.4OseiAvall-d.• 'be trifling. lAut . ;:pezhap4;. Gentlemen are not aware, that . the ere4af iitu the has ,cost . the Country, at t 1 . 1 is moment.; - nib re than ".rwct4ttillitilit""*i.i . iing.— hat security 4,:g-:i'virr,- that this inea - stre may. not in - the etidie carried,so far, as tti in Volve the: Colin try in an expence equolln . iitiressive? 1-liS 'mainob.. jedien to the pitiiii - OetiMegsure r haweyer, Was'found. eci on the danger tek.tho...co.nsiituriort with:Which kis: i•cgnarit, for he perfaly agreed - with his Hon: Friend' (General W.illor.El,' that. this meiso're, vielve%l in .connedion wi tb . others ,uiiielt hare. been adopted,. • and as formic 'a part of a - systeM, - ..gives ground for sirong suspicion that. it is Wishol.:t4 render this a • Military Ciiiir.try. He believed that it is intended by the plan that. 4here 'shall' be:3QQ hews . edueated, .at this' School, Of the younger- class alone.. The scale is- so large, that this seminar y may: beeOmege. neralls fashionable 'for t)i.... etivcaticin of the youth of the liiihest 'expetaations in the Country. ; It is ob.: vious that they can more easily thon'pthers procure ei i ' admission. r t : ', then, Aifilat will, be. the . habits and : opinions with which .• these young men, who are to "occupy the priricipalplaCei. not only in the Army .but in the. Civil Establishment of .the.countrY, and evenin,this House, will come' forward into life ?-- Submision, and 'ready execution - of the orders of their . stip . enors, habits of command 'and 'impatience 'of disobedience of their orderi : such must -be the temper of persons so educated; dispositions Certain ly. ,most repugnant.' to, -and inconsistent with, the free Constitution of this Country,.and most destrue, tive of the securities on, which - it rests. .As to the second part of the•proposed I ns ti t utio n , the forming 'an asylum for the ediwitt i'On of the Child ten of Soldiers, as it hasbecn.exPlained, it met .with.his full approbo . don. 'lie-was glad to.hear that it was not intended to edocate.- them all to .a. military life, which he 'had lhouglit that the 'Right ••lenourable.Gentleman ;Mr. -• Yo rt. a e ) had intimated when he opened - this business on .t former oee'aiion'.. Sub :r plan, in his opiiiion, ' Would have bgcn repugnant 'to the principles of Christianity,•and he' was sure that 'it would have been inconsistent with {lie plinaiples of the:British _oristlttiticita. -He must farther rem a rk on. the time , at which - this - measure is. brought forward. At. the heginning :of the Seision, when ihe -failure of the . Expedition , toHolland was yet fresh in every mind, arid - when the failures 'at Ferrol and 'Cadiz 'were - s4ll ,znore fresh.in recolleaion,.nosuctirneasure Was propoied a. a means of repairing -the disgrace otony -Arms. - .Now, at the-, close . ot the . Sessiorr,....when our Armi have bectirdistinguished, he would nor say . by, yiaory,--t by-tlie.mast heroic courage,-the - the greatest ski* ri`ti .the most adnsiral4 - dliei Inc, this measure. i s introduced.. .When it. might have appeared nec'e:ssirry i -rin mention was . Madeof it : when it 1145 been _proved that British valour' and • ~ .... ..... ... .... . ..-,._ . skill - is advgnate to cope with the most acknowledg. ed yalotioipd skill of another force; it is brought -forward.. Aticitiy . rate, he. thought that imposing such an xpenee t in the - ciiiinW ought to be deferred J: 0 imather time, when it may.have recovered alit_ tie from the burthens to whi c h it has been Subjeded iii the iotirseof the W-ar'; .for. unforwately for the Conntry; - its Officers and Army halie. be.en so tiain.: ed- in the hest. school, that 'of expedfnce, in -the 'Course oft he last nine years. Theie can,, therefore, :be no. immediate necessity. for . this measure, and years must elapse. before there - can be any reason to aiTrehend a w 44, (YOAeers -defetftive - in military 'skill.: He' 'wished; on these 'grounds, that the pleasure may . ;it least . Ise nisi ended till exigencies 'may have the of requiring its . adoption. He was very sorry - 16 INar „the .language , used: by the Right lion: Clo. nil:coma -, (Mr.' Yoßx.o, on a :former , ti%lit respeCt jag Pearce ] "that we .cannot hope, for a:, sincere or, soliC Peace 7.'With. the' Enemy, but 'that tho Ugh -a ro:lNti - botati.-be,-attained, it AvOuld only be an. Armistice; wilitil circumstances -may render,. convenient, but .ii hick eacnsot allow the re.: duclion of ,the, attive forte of this iCanint iy. " . For • his, part, he hoped. ilutt.*yllen.':feace is tnade,l64;ill .:hi made. on the priticiille. ofretricAring, ai,far as pOs. silile,. all grounds offeßlousy . and , aniMocity between ':the tweiNittions, an A - fhat it will, be founded .on re-gartrtb ib. ni / titital interest- 5 of both Countries. A .Peace so nude, - he bel ilved, would be as sol id, .4cdurei 41 . 714 . Pc:11114* . il • 2, a . iijiy: that :I - his' CoUntry 11.,s o'er conthiple - 4 with a riyal ; mtion. :, . . '--. ' , I -The SECRETeIPr: tre4l:"4llZ in. explanation . 'Stated, .that .his languatt-re - ypetft,inglbe: nature of the Peace io be expeEte tiv etiis'Country, 'lid been Georkinart (Nlr, Gxty). lie had . .oill?. - ..said; that -he was that this' Country cadtkot:.in present circurnstance, - hop for-a iticere - Peacc—LitielL tO. enable it to ...ny of its attention` to its , Military situ:t.. . tton, and that-at best, it cauld'oniy look to a hot, low,, suspicious, , and, armed Peace. ; Hr.:. contended, that using-an expressionolthe FJon. Gentleman him self, it is noW — moie et.r - necessary to eye -of, je.4lo'ci - s ; f:otipon This' an4,,ilisyttein of, the wisest and best Administrations that this Coutry had to .boast of ; m d 'he-thotighr tlic , wisest an d. best' system of policy witichsoul i cl i po.w,he pursued._ He wished that the 011ice4 - 4.6Cthe:Britisk Army Welk as sure. rior, to the'V'rench Pikeys:in military science, as they undoubtedty are in courage, honour, 'zeal; and : 2. . • • Mr. JAMES /tl.4lin disapprOwed ,of the measure in tote, e9n of the plan of .the Asylum for the iducatiiin 'of Soldiers' children,..for he was awl vinced that all chiVdrett so editatted, in a Military Acadesny, must, from the nature of the human con, stitution,'becomg'Soldiers. This he considered as thgestablishmend of an _hereditary - Military Cast in the Country, andconsequently as a daring-and gross violation nfits Constitution and Liberties. Indeed he thought that the history of the proceedings of the Country for several years back, were a proof thit it is intended to destroy the Constitution and sub. siitute 'LI in room a Military Government. .Sir ELFORI) supported the Motion, and arg4ed, that allowing :all the influence which the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. GREY) had attributed to emulatitp and Competition for the improvvinent at OF 11, RI I Military Science, the proposed measute 1 prt*r. - to be adopted - to operate as an aid to these principles. Mr. HUSSEY strenuously opposed the measure He seldom now expressed his sentiments' in th House, but when be did do it he would do. it wit freedom. He - averred, that though the Arse • - same respeds be 'itfigioved by this.. ll' stitution, he would not at all like an Army COar _posed of persons educated . under it, and that t wthild . prefer-stiCh an army as the country now ha with all its' defers, imaginary or real, to an arm so constituted. It has been said,, that this - Collef is to give Military- Science to those who are etILIC3' etkar it. -He asked if the Colleges in this. Comm • in-beneral really communicate science ? He beliel ed that few. perions would contend t hat the y dl . lie. thought - that the promotion of military setent ought=to be kft-sotely to-competition aril anal He Was among the first W 110 rose itr the I'-oust oppose a m !. :asure of the same nature 20 year, ;IN -It was- then, from the opposition made so it, i:ve up. *He was convinced that this measure can he 4 .no real utility, and therefore. it should meet. ) 61 Iris -oppasitioo in every stage. The SECRETARY at 11' Ai? stated, di fference be tween the case which the Hon.-Gentleman (Mr. (tv l ,sEY) alluded to - and the present. As to the pat ronag of theproposed'Bill, he haa,to repeat what stated.cn a former occasion, that iti:the first Cld5S tbe a tidethi;t p y ointt c(i,y Officers intended for the Staffare of o uts( in -- the Junior Class, th il e ft C y the East` 'lndia `Company, from among the c ' tat t s r echosen f a ro n m to a s m en o d ng ou t y c that son s on o e f h oo ti l i a tt c l o t e e r t s t distinguished °)‘ivi ;- e 1 (11 : 1:t1 ' ''hal;11 H the remainder *are to be appointed of couoe rh' Commander in Chief, attending !CV priority- of apple' cation and strength of recommendation. The ex cl... cise of this discretionary power in. time Commaritlil in Chief must be subject to-the inspeetion and anima& version-of Parliament, and therefore he t hought th 3l no danger could. be apprehended froth him- this -discretionary power. The different Resolutions were then -put agreed to, without-a xlivision. 'he Irish Disqualification Bill *as read a third tittle '7 S A ir M 3o 6s 7l n r.A .b i e f i ' l 3l7 l .l4 t .L ha . Opinion that the Bill extends to -certain 06 0 which ought not to be' included in it. 14 0 ,,k. ) : ) . I: t o t s l e te , a ß n i d ll do pass, „ cludec;l the few observatiOns which .he -made) moving "•iin Amendment to .the Bill, e : : : lr r e h 7 lr 13: FOrt . Commissioner of the Costonis in Ireland, 51131 be excepted from the Disqualification List conyinct in the Mr. ABBOT, opposed' the Amendment, paw, many high compliments - to. the character, merit 0 0 abilities of . the person '‘tilio now holds that 06 0 1 (Mr. BltEIF0a))). but contended - that. in gelier'' legislative respell; must not be held to lot • Itridn 4l merit or circumstances., He farther argue.tl; tha t° amentiment_Could.not beradoPted, became there del not at present exist in Ireland a separate 06e e o p l First ComMissidner of • the Customs, but the Per g ; ,:lnlz is isat e th t; e m h m e i a so head of f v .the i;Oh ß t oard 'of Itcvenue i n Ire ; Excise. - certainly, <froth :ll f rti th eeP e C il u ji r r;jfi c .e n ;beer en i dd a able to tbouc amake,separated separation. bn t desirable if . icl6l ilso t. a l that eo * h brn e e e nxt. agr h li b l ti f e ' lact i lt t uose w ffi as ielee :desirable, that the Per 6 ° n- h- il°l' t I fo l rr a t a x t n to o c : il t u lh °l s t auld t g c o ‘b* t e t e ni s ein-uaocilinl'eM:mciatintillydbe-rnSlic°llifre. 1:61ca°:11°6111:1.1;ilelliiis:1 knowledge and skill on the srnamoelesttilleijeirClbisellotuldbe wing 'displayed. in that Country, and in fait.tite alto him to sit in Parliament,a"ne C 1 115 • doty as Member of Parliament, would be ta iop inconsistent - with his ability „ to give the inforP a desired.. . . Irish Members took a parr,: 60111 C Of I ileir: lll P ra iv f ir. A long. conversation ensned, which sev.etati. ing -the - Amendment.; others, - particularly.f. t he s t p l i.) a tt d .nbebe be excepted kV e o x L id -•-• e a e o n ti t d e , 1V 1 9 0 k 1 ; Oppostog - ;if s - 'our aii(iwing;--r'_ t ,. l / 4 00. Aipercdmen lions of the Bill, he or they ws.iald haVesupportelocj from the Very *high opinion they' en t " le t tcr. - of that Gentlemao's -abilities and gener al char°l3ll The AMendment was nes . - i ti C::/ (s i r l\;C : r E o L t: L the k „E of 4 :l: t r , ../ . ; l e .t iX-4 ) . `::: e1 9- 4.0,) 6 0 . 5 . 4 4 1 ? t ; ( 6 1 ,c y o c n i s t ;7lo l r l 0 0 . e: L'e°. o his 1 3t = i r sr v . order hong read,* ,he. OW the Petition from •sitie 'Ttlikey Cotn,l)anY , i ' l L e one eFuntsiroin the • Brit --Musebm, the Sia ra dills' Acetititits-0-1,149ney on ENcliell ue ,i r rt l'or Public Ser - viees, - &e, be to t;-:.‘ said Conitnitice. -Ordered. • • CO' The Houselniving*lesol*Ved itselfi l ' l ° trait tee of . • V/ Efl ' The CHANG ELtO It or ,tb, c' .It wili,,be' recoNcAod; that His 10 , 1.1c*”',„.,1et of gracimls Meisage having been - r b) . e 3 c. I 0 05 , to a _OltlinlttC,', have 19 P- r- bjea Vote founded on His Ma•c,t -s - age , a -s.O this y it d to Which I wish now to call t he attepti on r t hat Committe . e. I am extrem-ly SLIrrY, from the. most indispensible necessity, the - t hee d e mands of the Public Service wilt requile t":0•i-rais= should he given to fits it/I.IJ airlye', /01 , of ing 2;000,0001. On I.4Cheoner Bills, - is 3 'r. , - t ot Credit. I feel it incumbent on me to st"! . , , os eti this.obligation of ask this has' hzen i c e th :4 3 ol on me Irmo the .increaSed deMands of "r, _ Frbz oli Service; for various articles, undvi the-Atair u. es of,Kavy, Transpnrt and the ditl;ef tl oot co ot , are connected with the *.ti.lN'a i l mously increased, and there L n 4 1 .6(04 ° .11. Mil for an additional Service .in thaF, not that it was--..not c p nt enipbton , ti n` jeo speCts, for certainly it had been fork soine tended to have a Fleet in the Baltic; lit b tl i .',',: e b'es attending that, as well as vhrious oilier foreiee rt. that Serv • ice, were.not to their full exre,'', l: _., c , bcetl Twenty Gun.yessels and six armed Brtbr, added, and there has been an ex pyjicsii,' - ' .. 4 4 1 i ) . 1 Nei considerable amount for maintainitig ( is lin consequol'e- .'.s tral Ships, that were t.etatnet „ 14tubitraos I find that the additiona l e % , etw' ~.;?