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,TJllitii.iiii, ii.,II?I,L4AILVT. HOUSE OF PEERS. TUESDAY, 'MARCH 19. BANBURY NEEItAGE. Thedilcussions upon the evidence,. &c. adduced ll ..iiis lcing-pcniling case, were opened in the Com- L.,e,,.rit Privileg e s this da I Ch4r. y ; Lord W a l s i ng b am in . • i ..le LORD CDANCRLLOR delivered his sentiments at 4olue length„But moved no propo t.lon. ilvreon. . • . . I •''fl ER SKINE 10110%iVed, a nd in ja forcible and ltii,,l,oic speech of considerable length, deliver -11 ;iii opinions an favour of the, adman(; and ''Aittded by moving as a Resolutio n ot the Coin -12111;if.,--'l. That the Petitioner has made good his I :3 i ' ' n '; c ' lsimarit of. the lionours in question is titiitral linow)yss,- commonly called Earl of Bail bury, , h e ir Lorl ships then adjou rne d t h e debate, and tul••Ler consideration of the casu till Thursday, Tit:: House then resumed, and after prayers were lead, tho Bilis upon the table, chiefly private, were Liikarileil in their respettive stages. .Among therm l 4 Marin - 'Mutiny Bill was rtad a third time and P 4 rledi slid the Silk Manufacturers' Wages Bill passed throa , 1 • Committee, •nd w • repotted with; i.., i a a ,th t'll aiV Amendment. Lrtiiit)LLAND gave notice, that, as the attend lt,Cc'3 ea Tiairsday next was likely to be lull,' live s ouk no that nay move to have the evidence given 11 tin: Coroner's inquest, on the Body of th,e utitor ?le'44o debtor who died in the.Marshalsea Prison, circ rin kti; Which I) proceeding would More fully bring of um stances of that unhappy ease, the our hue ti wi u;:h he. had staled to their Lords!rips! view. i 1 d ui, ni.t imag (14 y, fur motion, that any opposition Would b e lade to his motion, but. lie nave: this no tice for that the reason he had stated. . , ... . . riAlter ~ 7 di. posing of sante routine busibess, their, sliiPs adjourned polo/Ina, till to-morrow tore i boo n, Ps to their encoding DiVine,St.rvice 1 'Wtiriniasier Abttry, Where . a Sermon Nell be P i reaci lt d b y i iif ; Bishops uf Litel.field end CUven iq =hut ior busiiis till . ',Chursday ; utitn the iliiij e b . ,1 e ite gtrit's Meli4age will by taken into "M'''.;* 'trii4oll. I'IOUSE, OF COMMONS, . TUESDAY, MA hint i 9. t : r 1 1 ,6 lecond teatl lig of the Western Fishery Bill. l "e motio n ~ 01' . hl,. Cm.cti4vT,. was fixed for Mo A (r.11.4Y, the 25th of ..I.lreti.. .. f o,,"` lT ul GAECosinti preseatt.4.l two' Potitions, n i ne 1 1 ,, c - 1 , 1 the Ship Uwriers, :nal O w other twill I , iiii l . bit an,la tif Lierpol, in tovour of the 1.)-6+ hr . 1411 c...nbittierc ia , tittittlitt l Road Bill was read a second time, ,edlor to-ttiorrow. k '.. Is re ,, ~. Wit.tionN presented st:veral ,zeCnon ''e'lill ti it 1) ' tli i, on Wines, Si :C. watt , j i . , ,id .. ii‘lt, t) , ii.X.k. `'- . ~ r wi t , ottroates of c.4.!ttai o Sti.o." ttece ...it ) tut 4 re- U , On II ' e „., ft ,„ . 1 "e ni , 4ion of "%L , .. 14 USKISSON, tbe total I— w it 01 hilli of Exciiaiwe is..tied oY the 11'1"k lAtt , 0 „ , kltro .La oi e is sue oi pun'ish. Uoliars, were \ or -1,, ''' In'ik-laiit hetore'rhe tionse. Al4O. ail) , Col - , l',;(:Pn'aiik.llev wilicti. (tidy h:tve pdsse , d , betwee n the ih,,, l ' sbl oilknti ct t lie li easut y and tsustot 1. sPe"... 4 : " Iv tlitit LXpoi I of W,lli.ni. . Ako, for A COPY °‘ Ili thice Ditch by the . 13 .nk, founded upon the au• lii or i, , t , Yoi (imminent, a. , . to the issiting of Stamped bull c drs at th e tm e of ss.litl. e.telt. 'The Hon. GeL l 7 Zit 1414144 gave notice, anti he should 'On the 2&01 , move fur a retntn of the Quarterly Colurner 4- I biseouni troto the Bank. • ' •, , .. TR r i., th„-V--- ott OF TIME P . MISH OF St'll SHY. hill AkEs GRAHAM reniVvd the 'second readiog o f .s., 46 lur the ot ft t,..l Gc.iserooolit of the foul of 4 ' - I % - J) In the County ol Lincoln. vti the titiosti9ii. being put. . 8' ' Sir ANSUEL it,,stiLLY wished to cail the attention. 011iitlilouse to tins Bill, whien, though Pfgfe"edlY It 4 iirivent naure, was.ol. &teat public importance; ‘ e'llieitted in it clauses'ul a most rXi ra"rdinat Y 11a ~,,41°, mieli as, lte Iklieved, never before totind th e i r , towaY into any Ac t of Kolisinent, One et the clauses ta lli th he maw iy objeaed, ‘ikint to'euebie "the ;:til, ' Of the Puor.honse to puni 4 it the unfortnnate l itt by solitary confinement, without any limit ha re dl ' Period, if on any occasion he .- shesid miser if „„bin4ell. Another of the. clauses provi'dcd tl'gt ti - ",Y Pup iittnaLed the tions.e, of any pm i , he rd" its 'le hitotiltl be adjudged a felbtt, and b e l'Unislied 1411e,It* Theitiwat, ailothrr iii the clauses,. v. tin h, ii ," 4 .ir Samuel) was unexampled in this country for ttk.a.trhillary rules Sc WU down. 13y it tile Gove, nor o,:noter nt .1 he pour-bou.ewo enabled to let out jv473111411 or hire to daily Idboot, in the same Mull". ob 43 ille neß,ry-..1 in the 'West Indies ale 10 ' Li t n shi i ' v w , (4, eu tthi rate, perhaps, of' ninepence or one v 04 1 : 1 1! per da y, according to the quantity of iviark sill: 1 . I ''' f ri n d eXhan+ted 41 reivit might en hit l ' i n In pet form. l A, sortof hiring whtch-was [lki ti llY ne‘el ill the arriingetne,;t ol 000r-no""b i lit ha d' l4 wil , not ail, for it 4as ' , Twitch:4 ti', • t if inter. otit iieXnauStEd nit; toil, lie bbould nOt ft:l.ow witn''' v, r ,, ' II YI or withnt a certain time, whi,'lt` the Go- It) . "nr lit,ght think proper, titre he sho,ilti he liable ilivl:i'lli4lquellt. There was.a clatrie also tor con. toutiivliu.,l.,lll-PPlYing the Haloes of lodum ry i:t the n ie „ I '. w i t " these poor slaves., 'so that au) , I;arkh of 1,,,,u'..`....rui11Y I " i tlitt obtain from this great mart of , per oe s a constant auptly, ' These ''tvc" rhea re., t l'i,:,l6l,,ciPii,l tyukttinna and P':tiallies inflicted , 41 i l l y ' i tint ow., ~ , , ~ nil ' pera lt . itttl .iT (Arne the lenient cooses which of .(f it 0 ° the taster s supposed ill conduct.' One ki .1, auties 'tespetting him• provided anti if be 'i" ti 11 be found , f , . • (4141. w ords ,', elllO zzlitkg, or porloinifig, o r in `' ll ence ( ,;:. 4 4. 14 ' 111 ng any at tire good.; nr chattels, his to ltno , s ''-i.ker ,i,...banse entrusted cithli,kh,i4lY) lYt' rt.!:ilitc,l%.l:l(4lte'l m6I1) thiStiOniihflient wily : 'I.-pile. rohl,„1, ,:.11,,,1hre0. fold iti innouttt to the value n q e ~iisii hstit.uel atter noticing some other tni iiii,l ~,i,',,,,ht•iluti his it of opposing it on the Str J • 'V AMLi GL'Aft .- 41 t)W ' AM declared that he tha . not ztlet i ls 4 :Oalu i ., Qt t , eA were in, the Bill, or he certainly "aVe,lntVel the second reading. at did ^I . • not believe thelton. Members fof toston and for Derby, who had taken charge of the Bill, and in' wEase ab,ence he moved, .wero.:acquainted with 'what had been stated by the lion. and Learned Gentletnatt l tie should, therefore, in order to give the parties 'an opportunity .to consider this eittraor ,dinary Bill,. move, That it be read a second time this day sennight. • After a few observations from Mr. George. Van- Hiistart and Mr. Kenrick; the second reading of the wAs wmponed till this day se'nnight. A Mebsagt , i• from the Lords announced that their :Lordithips had agreed to the Royal Marine Mutiny Bill, with some Amendments, to Which they desir ed the concurrence of thii,lionse.' THE REVENUE OF IRELAND.: Sir JOHN NEWPORT rose io call the attention of be. House to tile-Financial situation of Ireland, which was unprodu6live in,respe6t to its Revenue. The Right Hon..B.lronet r0.E.1 that port of the Speech of tl►e Lords Commissioners, which admit- t'd that the Revenue was deficient, and he stated that he should prove it was totally unable to meet. the charges °t i the Public Drbr, that in point of fit the Revenue' was no* defic:ent 650,0001. rite fad being so, it,was high time to inquire into the state of things, and to apply ii remedy to meet tlie deficiency. Whether that dAicienty arose from the iNa.iequate. Meads of supplying the taxes, or in the mode of colleding them, he knew not, but this was most certainly true, that there was a great de ficit. In respect to the debt of Iteland, that had in-. - Creased i i later years materially. Within the last tth }ears it had trebled in amount. In 1800, it .was about 30,009,0601. awl it now wa030,728,79'21. The charge up , rn that sum for paying the interest, the Sinking Fund ) , and the managt mem,- was 4,273,000 i. to meet this charge the ordinary te ,venue only proiuced 3,6 t 4,0001. so that there was a. deficit of 660,0001. Tio Ulla Hon. atconet _then alluded to the speech of the 11131!t Hon. Gel). t,lemJll (Mr. Foster), in 1804, in Nt heliati ticed the tieCreaSe ill the revenue at that r,,lnut il n,d •liad .fated it would not in any future period be any better. In that opinion he (Sir. J, u had coocur reci, and to convince the Houie that the progno!.ti- cation of each was correct ; be would state the prii duce of taxes laid on the last year, to eliew that the . Right lion. Gentleman: had calculated their amount muck Li,eyoncl what the actually roduced. For in- oance, the taletriat:oiss were as . Tlie Dutieton Wine . too,onot. produced only 44,0001, Attrittional Te.t Duty 64),0r00 •- - - Currants lo s ocio - - \A/41141(1w I) at) , I.et um, /ire. 33i 0 " 2,800 • 35,000 . 6,000 , • . Recciptb&A.Overtiseinenti ..;;,909 . . . . 1 4 00 These defalcations in, tho. r‘tirnated summit of pro ducei with onie other tninor totes, inade the total ,dolicit in tale ,huit ye.ar's taxes, ne.,rly 200,411t01, and be was juvtdied in 'asierting, upon taking.the aver• aged threelears, that t.11.e total dcli‘iency itt the ilevettue uas one million ff.:veil hundred, tnottsaud pounds. It, , might be !.aid (hat the dcf.tkatt.,ll Prose tram the difficulties onck.r Whicn the .Lotnnarree t L e co en try w:l6. I,taced ; but Mill kt as nut fhe cause, it W:ii of ut tr,taxatton. Att:ele• of luxury Welt, So lie:st 11y litirthi.nen, that the povioty,Of ; the. people ..prevetited the oonsu top- Cow,. and con.qtb•iitly the ELevrlitlti by imptiAing additainal laxvi tote otteS 4 Kure 10,i —to by litiorii , g to., a drop inure 111.11.1 ti e liol.li it W:44 losl ' I . lie theo %vein too comparative Statellirlll 01 114 e produce of thi: reve tole at the period4o which he held tho odic. , now cc cupied by the Right lien. G urluto,ati tNIr: Fume') mat he recent period; contending., I na during the thnc he otticiateA, the, tines produced. touch , inure than he calcoltne t. The exvelice ot ,coneetiog the teveniie had greatly i n creased , sinee.lBo7: At that time the - ex:Pence was about 487,0001. Last year it arnonoted to 720;0001. of which :ergo. more than 2r20,;;0LA. wls:absorted by, thr Iwo Board, of Cut. toms and Excise our incidental eXp•nces, and distri• bitted amoog the clerks, the hUprannOtited 1.4 bitilaiUgs of various kinds, and tor new d u Lks(which by the bvt., in England were ere led, not at Gotfern mete, but at, iticlividual expence). Among the items of charges was one fur .stitionary, amounting, to 28,00td. a - to charge on England was only 14,0 . 001. .The duty on leather in 1790 produced 5 l,uuol. ; and in 1811, a period of eleven years, when it might be supposed that the population had increased, the pro duce had been Only - 4 t,oool. The Right Honour able Baronet after stating home other supposed grievances, declared that io submitting his proposi tions to the lie did not wish to cUttiptututse them to form aoy hasty opinion on ttre suijett, 11,11 he requited was that the o:llLeni teleritd to snould Undergo complete investigation ; ht: therefore tiust ed, that the• Resolutions would br passed and alloWed printed, and an some future day the Getitle men opppsite winald be preptucil to .Ire +.' that his statement was not incorre t :t. He - then moved Re soliition, embodying in substance the statetnentl he had ineviotiOy tuailr, namely, .* Itesrilvttl. That t lie . funded ttcht hail treble'd trim what it was hi . and on' thrr sth at Poway, rllit l was 59,74,79%1. to which was .1110Clied it ;W1114404 Cll.lt4C tor interest, sinking fund, and maingetne;,t, ine e t .it i t s .d eo p,,l the Revenue produced t o last ye4r, only 3,614,00:4. 'caving a. deficit at t.);90i0ol. tce." On the first Resolution being put, ;11.r. Fosiita rose, and oliiervril that. the state iiien:s which the Right Hun. Baronet tOade wt-re not correct, and therefore lie'could hut I , lllow them to, pass. At the same time he colld tint help le marking' that the Right Hun. Baronet was the, prim 4:411 hero of the piece' brought forward 'ibis night. Admitting, he 'riot, the necessity /mita inquiry . into the fillitatmult of Ireltiod, he must be allowed to say that. the Right Hop.. Bart. had- Mistaken the time tor,introducing the,,,,, st h miAl t there W4ll not otie paper before the Hoten: on .which to come to a proper decision upon `the, nuth of .the statements. With respect however. .to the -filet stated by the Itigl4 Honourable;' Baronet. as, to the deficiency-of the reytilue in the ,last'year, he had only to state, that it- dtcl a ct ually produce .3,880,00h1. the djtVerence between th.l SUM and that Mentioned by fhe Right Hon. RarLinet AVas-oe• casioned, hy, his havoig tot - got, to VI, account. the extraordinary resourcesi for i.i.tatice,, the prol. fits of the lastlotter es, and main} - ot the ielityinciti. 'From this statement Ws House . • Uidehdy. was 1161 to great. In .mal;ing thi'g state.: [trent, however, he did not wish to be understood as arguing . upon the 'difference of of bOO,OOOl. in the statements in,•fatour of the produce of the re .vetitte, as cOntritSted with the Right Him. Baronet'S statements for he was Prenared to admit that it se 'quired all the abilities add attention of Parliarbent to the Subject. When it was asserted than iu the„gross the failures in the receipts were enermous, it. was silffieierit' to call Jul exaitination.' The night liotira'ble.Geritlernan then proceeded to examitre the statementsot the . Rt: HOU.. Bart; . :inii firtt , With respect to the hopeS •Whicli he (Mr. F.) had . held out in 1804., In reference to those ht;ivs, he wished the House to reCollea that he . had "expressly calculat ed the reSoureca as arising from a full peaeeestahlish. merit. He had -then propos,d to raise, the Rinretille every year, suffitiedt to meet the *exigencies of the year, and if, had 'answered his expeoatton until the last year, when most certainly. .tt tell ra pidly. In 1804, the smount of the revenue hiked at 4.,500,0001. which it nearly produceL4 was enough to pay the interest of the debt. Now, wit h. respect, to the deficiehcy: ire the last yt.ar, that' was tp be placed to several'cause.s. 'The Excise duties operat. ed fur only part of the year. As. to the ..spirit duty, the increase was not mute than 4.50,Q00t, ; when, in fail, if it had not been tor the Cl'audes-. title distilleries, the returns would have ben more than enough to discharge the inteiest on the debt. Taking it for grained, upon a fair calculation, that the consumption of , nis article was n iiilions of gallons, to which . Might be added, two inidions of gallons distilled in private, tu'ik log in the whole eight milliontv of gallons., at (.2s. 6d. per gallon,' would produce 1,000,0001 i sterling; but if it could be charged with a ,duty as in FAigiand, of 75. then the calculation would be 3,000,0001, sterling. lie was disposed id give the Rigio'Honourable'Ba mutt every, degtee'ot credit . for the uprightness of his iutentions in teApect to Ireland ; 'and, being of . that, opimon,. should,lidpe (though, 'fo'r the reasons he had stated*, he could not agree to the resolutions) to' have his concurrence in deviSing some Means for the relief of that Century. 114 had no other view .it opt rasing the 'lt::solutions, th3ti a•• wish n ot to held out tri .. the put lie a statement of -littts and not borne Out io evidence, The better way wosild be for the Right Hon. Barn-et tp wi;hdlaw hos.!thitton, *and ~ va!t until a proper inntray 'could he "made, He asshred the 'lloase that he had 'had ~:frerprent Conference's on the subjel of the snuatjon of , lrel.nid ith his. , Right lion. Friend dear and the: wish they felt in cottwin,• was, to ameh orate the condition of that country. The. Right Hon. Own adverted to the takes of the last year ; as to the tax on windoWs, the view Whieh'he had in proposing"the was to affect as liole as pos-- sible the mininfaairrer and "the middle ritt4cs .consi&ring . that those itthatitiN; homes brivirig'lcss than ,even WindOwa 'wine not in a contrition to pay' the tax. NOw, with respect to the Colledico of those taxes which had been :described as deficient hi pro. dO6!, Le! had to observe that to wt.re colleaed' an nually. lit 'had 'calculated that ihe'Window-tax woold nro,.:uce . 86;0001. ; it had'attuallyproduc d so-,00i5t. a pOrtints 'Of It tint havii.gbt•en cialle "t a, to the :4{fliwnt of G,OOOl. but Whi . ch wooid ly come: in, left, ins statement, plopos,l the tax, eorroil. , The Posf•otlice I ouitV iirodUCed IZi,OOOI. uti,t a shpuld t ave piodared 7 ' ,,b01)). for it runt be remembe're'd that the taxcs having been', proposed in June of the last yea,, could not of cotatte,einbl ., ce tube than the halt year's chilect!on,, and.thi refute," when the Right Hundurable Baronet talked fof 35,0001.• he was calculating upon the year's account. As to the Adseritsernent dn.y, t h e reason it priAnced so !Alla was, the Printers thiclar ed, on the Tak being passcil, that it was of no use fiar the public to send their adyertisementi, for the additional duty, would ruin them, and their wirers could have' no eirenlition. 'That alarm was now . Over, And fifes duty, flakr that particular head, now rapidly rising - . As to the receipts, bills, and notes; that would pro duce what it had been estimat ed at. The Bank of Ireland had compounded with Government for 'the duty as. apidicable' tO their Wines, at '6OOOl, :before he nodc. They BOW, otrelvd 20001. note.' 'The failure in the. wine dutieS - -sits 'owing to the statesof the country whehae it 'is imported, not being able to pro duce it, and from the state of the commercial credit. So in respect to tither itnportations; among which was lea, to Which the' Right Him. Baronet alluded, that however,' was now rapidly importing. • The failures in the receipts 'Of the reVelluct Kind• pally to be at lifnitei.t to the decrease in tire ituports, and thettymptotn was, th.tt the prol,le had not the ni 'alts of laying 661 their money. This had occa - siotqid th e th..er , .lll;ie. The flight Hon. Gentleman then drew a cOmpinison bet wren t be.exportsof Irv ! . land and England, and elis,rved, that oploi Wam . nOt sable ru 1,01-1) I , li:e With the expeneei of the United Ein ; ,ne, yot in rho'course Of the last ten year-, 11K.. balance n vss oue sixth in favour of heland, with respect to ekpor , s. lying shortly soini...t of the other tonics upou which 'the Ri g ht Ifni, lianinet had toitehe'l, lee again stAnl itiS -wish for toll 111(pjly, and until t: on, lie iippeil the 1.141.. it flonoarah:c Baronet would not pr ess a s mot ion: C A s.r r. v, i tciii,colicitired iu Op i‘pinion than nothing but ;.1 (.3 , subjeil anit the uttion ot tilt' winiom Ut bodi »hate of tit' I lot .s could place the finaiices of ,Irelaild in o'4 stale which it was . .lei.itable they should ,he placed. Ile thought with, his Itight t-lon. Friend that it would be inexpedient to . adopt the proppoed liesolutions 'its die founddlitin of future proPecdings, liable as they be to cavil, and objection ; hitt be was happy to [tear,. that his. Right Hon.. Friend 1.1 , as .iinxions that the \VII*. or iYe subjeCt should Undergo a thorough invedigation, .H 0 wit, o f opinion that the rookie in Engt4nd of laking' part of the supplies within - the yeikr, mighttit adopt ed in Ireland with ixinsiderableadvaniage. ..land there was. a tax on poverty Iteldnd only on consumption. Mr: 1 , ,t1t.03.t. was of that iiifilliticiai of t-1 , - at I amiabl e to.the grrn neous ratio 01 cootrindit , i) tiett:vd L., - the_ Noble purer at the Union. 01 the hi , ins of it: 11:01 li'd4 14.04,4 ‘ 1 ltie p.kynient I:JR:re:it tI , IT ±,V. c 4, . s:nte tbs. LipiBn. It was itrp - assible to regard iliii or iinfoiher great political Iniltira in Ireland with- oft being co::vin . ced 4-1 t: e. neces . siiy of ,making th 6 people Of Ireland ,lti•fiecl with the Ooiiein= me:.t. Mr, Mar was glad to find that all partiea euired iri the expedie':oy Of an ejtamitiat,ii not the subject. He es;lel4.oit liis coovn:.ion,that.the eint ? re,. the trade, the itabnat:otis, aIA the ricliti of Irelatid . 141 =l,,, ,. n•trebledsince the unien. The tt e co'intry also n d been toniider.- ,thly pit ietnarly it: the North of Ireland. l;e beheved im botintry Miele the t:i%ei ~ ..ere nitre cheerttifly pdio ; stttl hb attribUted the •felaication tit the rivetnte to ileglig.l,ce in ihe Col leetion, and to the r evaleyte of illidtt He kopen that: Hoootilable Bir,diet to withdraw his motion, in th;rl be. SUI.I:VA 'gig besabibitted to the investigation e,t, A Committee. • • • The CHANCSI.Lott of the Excititauss obserVo,"; that both sides of the House agreed that the sub jea Was of saih important C.,5 to tender ii ne cessary without loss of tilde to poceed to an in quiry upon It. ,He should regret if the Hun. Ba- ' .net persevered in propoktni his 4e,olutions, ai' • fits Right Hon. Ft lend had deniOnstr;itej that even wete i they, cotnpletely. at:cot - Ate (wikich the`}' were not), Parliatilent could oot entertain them at pre- seta, as they " were founded on do:urrientS w Itch were not yet in the hand, set the Members. The },roposition therefole was prentatuie. • Arioth.!r groomt of objeatou to the lit:sofa:ions was, that they descrtbed only a part of the fad, and tAI from that counter-stateluent'WhiA: would satisfy_ the country. His Right Hop. Friend had shevat that the average revenu , ,: of the three , a,t years in Ireland, was 4,500,0001. It was not fair, there, fore, to take. the teveuele of the present year alOne, and to state it at 3,600,0001: 'He apprehended tint the course pointed out by his flight, Icon. Frieod would be" most exiit 7 dient,. namely, that' as sooh as the neces,ary papers avert before the House, runt as soon as the ter:nUtadtio of the Assi•ies'in 'lreland would elloNv the Members for that country to re tui o to their Parliameniaty duty, a Select 'Corntnit‘ tee sh"fuld he appointed to ill% estigate lite whole of this great subject, and to afford to' the, Flouse this data on which they +night afterwards' act. He trusted . , therefore, ,tint the Honottrable Baronet, by withdrawing'hia motion, would prevent the (lib,- agreeable necesiity 'of moving ti.e previouSquestion upon it. - Alr. - BANR - es declared, that a matter of greater irnportance,. or one which requited more, serious eonsid, ration, had nt,Ver been agitated in that House. It was Most material that it should be investigated' at a time when the House could act on the result' Of that' investigation ; and that. time rnt.tit be at an early period of the Sessioh, He thought great praise due to the Honourable Baronet, whose en jeet was UttqUeSllooably gained. Thu attention of the Honse. was eoropkteiy attyarei to this ,'octant stlb)ect, and could nut be diverted hum it. tit"f tie same: time' he itiould infinitely meter the t'.% an: Motion by. a Select Committee. He trubled that time wcitild be lust in the appointment of t1)„t ' 00,,itniuee, and at least that it sivtiold bit fbrrned b:.-fore the raster Recess, If his opinion had any weight with the Hot.. - fiarot:et, lie would ad.ise hirtx to withdraw his motion; tor it vvonld be anratter of regret that the House should tilkhie, when in tact there was no actual dimnat of opinion,. He , was •glatl. to hear of the tin provement of Inc agriculture ard, trade of ,Ireland, but was aitonisheit at the phenomenon of an attean.Ltot failure in the le venue. This lailUre he aitriboted to negligence in the collection : and he was persuad.Al that the re venue might be made 'mei: more productive %vista out any iocrea , e of- du ies. He was cominted taxes, similar .to those called war taxes in Eligl.iod, were most ,tpplicable to They lectertat a cheaper rate, they tell with a diminished . weight on the lower orders, and there . were compa rativeiy . uut few means of evading them. lieVerting Lb the appointment of a Ontntitiitee, he stated it as his optiPion, ttiLit it, could not be o:l.lyed ,with any , prospect 01 real„advaittage, latter etidt.4 IleXt. 11)011th. • Mr, in explanation, declared_ that, as as-the tuOtion before the House shank; lao poi u d ot, it was itisintention i to give notice of de‘y.ott s. hicit be would move the appoititineot c: 4 Committee. . Mr. PortflONtiV 931(1, he did not rise to touch on the ;ituatiott cat Ireland, or on the nest cows,: ot ,proceeding to beadopted with rknivect to that country. These considerations lie would postpone tO.the pro per period. Ail things considered, he thought it would be advisable for Ins Honourable - Friend to withdraw hi. motion ;: but then he trusted Iva hi s .1-1 0 0. Friend would - move for the immeciitge appoillt-' molt% of a Contuni,tilJe ; 01' it 001 immediately, tOr the appointment 01 a C. , 01,1 kite, iii least 1101 L4tur t h an t ips end ot ttn,4, in the begintitng ut next mown. As to ate prt.).sehce ot Visit 111e.oher , i, he did not see the necessity of Waiting for their re:urn ; toi he drclareit, thm 1!e would rather sve . the majotity of the Voittinittee corrivoo,ed ot thdit ,01 Irish Alrunblii. • 'if -the appotottneht oh the Committee, pk/sli,ullt•ti 1111111 il,t return of all the Irish {Hein- • hers, ao.ti wit the psocitpction of all the oilicial-do t ctitisa..inence must be, either that the Connoit.ev C001(I Comte to no , concluition in the pre sent St.sNioo, 'or that the Session'must be itionve piently prolonged Jut the sole purpose of allowing the Commi!tve time to mike their report. Mr. \V. Ssirrit was tor the catty appointment of 'a Committee, and for itnpartittg to Ireland all the thlt antales enjoyed oy the other parts a the tinited , Empire‘ Lord C.44II.I:REAOki and Mr. PONSONZY severally . txpiaitted.- Sir J. NEWPORT WcsUld not take up the time ot the I.l.)use by -answering, the many obsertiattons which bad. tie mode in the 01 the - evenitie, and which w& re capable of ref , It Anon , but wt trid con seta. wan htu iteRVO Of ihtf Hit t., to ,wit:idraw his trho loot oh trte t ti . tect that be at iii. - iorty itionc,dirrtAy to toov. , - the 0 1wit'lmt nt oh it t Colotnito C. I`.lo cIIANCRI.I-0 P. 01 - tie EXClit‘attKß .411,1, l sm i t illjy 4"01.1 t-111 tit t!,t: it h v ia v‘ lug ot t h /1,111 liarotltt, t.n.t I:tt 011 Ti 4: