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i- , ( I I Lll4 PARLIAMENT. .110 USE OF PEERS. Y " i i SATURDAY, JAN. 6. At tour 'o'clock, a Deputation from the House of Commons, headed by Mr. LONG, requested tt, con ferrence with th , lir Lordships, which conference wit , granted, and managed by Earls Comm, LIVRRPOOL, BATHURST, a n d other Peerg, who pro misod to take into coniideration the 'Resolution of the Commons respcting the, issue of Pubh Mo nies. Resolot on to thatched, acceded to by 'she Commons, was then read. PRoXt The IMIID CUANCOLLoIt then rose, and intimated intention of bringing forward a motion resped.. nig the mode of admitting Proxies during the pre sent `situation of tlittir Lordships' flutist:. Ti4t ne cessity of coming to,some understanding upon ilia' point', was soggested to hill) by what had passed on , that subjeett at the close Of the discussiOn of yester day and he should not fail in take 'an early day •to submit his ideas upon it to the House. He should give a more formal notice of his tntention nii Tuesday ; and perhaps, on -Friday he might be abic b) state his proposition to their Lindships. I.4rd ..Nio.ou.sytt wished the point might be settled be!ore` any new question of importance came under their Lordships' discussion and de- piston. , Lord 'Melte. most earnestly deprecated the Agi tation of this questioq, lit what light must the conduct. Of that House bey considrrcd by the nation at large, it, after vepcated discussions of the very impottatu question's which had recently conic fore them, illeir'deeisions tveie to be overturned by the votes ot those whit Welt in such a disunite a 4 to. 1w unable altogether to know the grounds upon ' which toese decisions had been taken .? lie ,would tint say that such a mode of ptoceeoing would m eet' with the reprobation, it would at least incur the re proach of the cautery. Toe, Dukes of Cemeidit.Ayso, KrttiT, and CLA IM:4CE CApreia3ed thetoseives nearly to the same effect. Lords GURNVILLE and LANWOWNr; were of, opinion, that when their Lordships, in a full Howe, on such grave matters as were now betore them, , they were fully compelem, in their opinion, to de.' dee how 'their proceedings, undet such circum stances, should be regulated to every respect. ISsuti I'uBLICII,IOI4EY, Sec. The Order of the Day was then read for going intO a cousideration of the Resolution brought up from the Commons, respecting the issue of die l'utkc Money in certain ci ; when, after some cohversatiun respecting he mode ot pros eeding,. the iloose resolved it self into. a Cortionillee, on the State of the I,oitl 'irVALSIDIGIIAM in the Chair. The k:ail of laveneoot. thew rose, to state the - gro ,„ is Oilw I et, he c,ilkri upon their Lordships to :tacit, witlruut de;ay, the Reseludon to that et4et to which the tglier, House had already Cottle. Afte . r explaining the ditr?rent modes IA hick his 60e. leaeties had proposed, to authorise the issue of ter. .tain sums for the scilicet of the Navy, Army, and Ordnance, his Lordship regretted the unexpected ditiicultieys arel.objettions that were stared by the Clerk of the Privy Seal, and by Ow Auditor of the. Exchequer, no doubt from motives the most pore endconseientitner, fled for reasons p el f r etty mg in their minds. From his interpretatten, how ever, of that, the Loan and Appropriation Acts,-he did not see that any, fair ehjeaion would be taken to the itsue of meoies, the application of which, to these soevices, had already been atointrised and con firmed by these /Vie. Ile bowed, however, to,the authority wider *Li c h ate Auditut Of the Exchequer (Lord Grenville) had acted ; but he Relied, that, the wisdom of the House 'would ftel and acknow alit airgeney of the present call. for the issue sit these monies, and agree to the proposed liesu luti n, leaving for the future discussion the causes 'which may have led to the present emergency. Lord Gees met observed; That .he took A very diffivreot view indeed of the coudo& ofliinisters in this bualuessa trona what they themselves seemed to take id kt. Iwo, it seemed to %ppear not only intiocent, but meritorious ; 1.0 him it ared high ly culpable' and crimioal, itersimich as it was most *trijittiolla to the ioterests of the Country, and vitally, subversive of the prine;pl,:s of the Coos.ittition.— Such a condi:o,, titer refore, should not pass without examipatien and ceosore, apt! be n o w , cohered his most soleme protest that the ,day w ()old come-- • nay, that it shall come, when that conshna shall be most nth:lately intieStigittcd, anti if o co s ion shrill req uire, most severely cenderiniefl, and .punished. The present ineietonal tpw,-aiou was not the time tor g o ing into that examine' ; tio, it shall be entered into in the manner the most boletno, in a full House, and atter a sufficieet notice To the toe coley of the case he 'rimed yield for the present, because the public .service; could, not be put to it stan d ; hut thetas who had misled and deceived the "'wise respetqing the state of the poblie service shsooiti riot iliviclore go troptiOiShed. As to his to feted to 4gts Tteasul Warrant for the issue of these monies, he trusted, that' rto: man ~who knew anratter. could 'for it moment imagine that he b:+.t,s i minaed, in order to hterease the embarrass., inentri Of the p' - resev . it. moment. The grounds of his teftvill theme' WWI ConsdetitioUS) they arose from a tit ,, tig sense of public duty. In his capacity of Aerlitor of the Excheretir he acted thiniSteiially, not p o r i tteidly. hits eondee,t in that capacity was not to be swayed' by reasoes of 'State. The duty he ii3d to' pertain was one ot most, ;n,;i ol - 4 s,care, tint' .01 the highest responsibility aist was ever imposed lyy a great and sacred trust. They were highly de ceived, therefeic, who entil4leled,hjs gi ii33l l oll to tic that of .a sinecure. He felt that by law aid duty 130 wig 110!Ititi to aehere to the course of 1134 Exche was op , , , rpitc to tho m ode of ;1014 pro. d by tilt' N,,tl:,t Eari, and that,. the a mmo on ,i 4 0 , the polar by which he was de -1 It i tai ,reel i r ',11;+11! Such nvitieusi, I..rd rproz,rrAt 4 doppOrteit tie attsokition, and ti -0 ci , r,11.00 which it might be coo t () the I y seal, at the same time that it should not apper to vary front the ordirvey course pursued by the Exchequer. The Loan CHANCELLOR observed, that by agree. ing ,to the Resolution, Noble Lards were by no means precluded from bringing fori,leard, on a future occasion, the legality and propriety of the measures which Ministers thought theniselyis anthorised to adopt. These measures they adOpted from their own judgment, and upon their owii responsibility, which might be questioned he caller, and %Opel) question they would be ready to meet; . but that question was, wholly separate 'and 040 fro;fl the present, and bound no Noble Lord,who acquiesced, from !mealier bringing Ministers to the severest ' ac- COMA. , Earl'SrhNcik opposed the Resolution o. consft. tutional grounds, and reprobated the delav fr,,m which the present necessity had anger. Hitd the proposition for achlressing the Prince of take upon hith the Regency, been adopted ai the time it was proposed, such au urgent OtCeggily would not now hive come upon the country. Eml of WESTMOULAND rindtcated, his own CODdlla, as Keeper-of the I'rivy Seal, on the pre sent occasion, and thought he was not bound by the same oath as that Which bound the Ckrks of the l'iicy Seal. Lord SPLNCEIt produced a copy of the oath which the Kocpor of the Privy Seal was boundshy, and contended, that it forbore the affetting or imprint ing of the Privy Sval on tiny instrument for the issue of money, without the linJwledgy and the express consent of the King. Lord HOLLAND was of capitiion, from the s',ofe• tuunts which had .been made, that some decision should take place on the subjtel. The mode pro posed 'by his Noble Friend would be tl.c most elli eacion., and a sure remedy a e .aiosi the recurrence of such an evil, It was one of the results of rhe circuitous and' perplexed measures adopted by ,Mi nisters in the womentous cireuinstanees in which the country w is placed; and the mode now r, cum mended arose ,o s u of that system of perplexity told • es WI, farther goes, and goes ;Astray, " ; Doty farther Iron Ins 0 ay "Ike view taken of the subjett by the Noble Lerd sunned to him inexplicable; he had said, thst what necessity creates; necessity must limit—but it should be considered, that such a:v.:easily wets attri butable. solely to the conduct of Ministers. The . tpude suegested by his Noble Friend (Earl :spencer) would have obviated such difficulties, and it was not yet too Lee to adopt, it. lie did not expect to hear some Noble Lords opposite advocates: for the power at clispensation-e-a duns me insisted on by the oc cupiers of the P4al chair ! (Souse smiling.) could not, however, remain at ease, while the cowl. try retpained in its piese-iit perilous situation ; ten,l he Could not avoid noticing the language of the Resolution, " counnauded," a language never used in the decrees even of the lotig Parliament; the words ordered and directed were used, but never eutionandea. This striking instance of injurious dillieelty, lie coetended, arose entirely out 'of the condua Ministers thought proper to at:opi, an d Which,/ it no , speeeily changedo and a constitutional ekeentive power restored, the most' dangerous results may be earl:tall. The• Bed ref Rosseyte was impremed with similar sentiments; but he could not avoid noticing the mode in which Ministers came forward to meat on the occ.eatne . It he uedersteud the Noble Earl ho made the pioposition, they were called flee e only to supply' the tl led of I deal, arising nom the present ineapacny,of Rs Majesty, in onde3r to issue; monies 'already voted and appropriated by Pat. li,intent to special services; hilt under the pretext of tins ,necessity, they would, by the Resolution, have the issuing tit the whole amount of the Vote of Cre• die of three millions, which was voted by Pallet. mem to be applied et the discretion of his Majesty for unforeseen emergencies that it.ight arise. Rela tive to the whole transat-tion, lie thought the,COnduct list:Mtnisteut wits Oulpitble, they should not, at this • advanced pet iod, have come forward fear the inter vention of Parliament.--4hey should have given notice of such an intention, and, apprised both Houses earlier of the necessity that exieted. '!he Earl of LIVIMP001; briefly expieined the na. Lure of the arrangement and the apphotiuti of the Votes of Credit, of which a portion was always re served for the necessary services its question. The Marquis of LANSDOwNit thought the proe ceediog,lavolved a principle, of such magnitude and importance, as to call for the most serious attention ut Parliament. He thought the conduct of Mi , on the occasion censurable. So strongly did he feel the importance of the proceeditee, that he should move an Amendment, which would go to limit the power conferred by the Resolutions, mere ly to the issue of the sums specified as necessary, namely, son,oool, to the Treasurer of the Navy, and the like sum to the Paytuastere.General of the Army. The Earl,of LisuosartALS felt likewise with his 'Noble Friends as to the peculiar importance of the proceeding. He thought the Resolution too cm ' erehensive, rind some limit should be put to itsope ration.' In that ,view, he shonld, on the report, ineve ail an amenduteul, after the word " Conorie , ture,"--eUntil his Majesty shall be recovered, or un iil.provision shall.be made for supplying the defect in the Royal authority. Lord Hoeesen reminded his Noble Friends, that in the peculiar circumstances of the • case, such Amendments would teml to defeat the obje&ef the applie:itiun to the House. The subject was more esvmaily within the province of the other House of, Parhameot, which,. from its votes, he Jew/ had adjourned Over Sunday; and on the fallowing day, the issue in question eat; necessary. Fite Wrquis of LANSDO%vt4E having formally moved his Amendment, the same vies-negatived witho,,t a division. `The; blank in the first Iteiohnion was filled up -with the .words " Lords Spirithal and Temporal,' as indicative of the concurrence ot then Lordships iil the Itesolutions communicated. Lotd WALSINGIIAM then qiiitttd the Chair, and the House iesuiniiig, 'the Iteport was received; on ,wlr!cit occasion the Amendment of the Earl ul abut v, was Also negatived. tIoLLA:4I) pf.';,,Ciitifil ;1 lf illion trom--;.the IVl4yor :nut Qurporatikin..vi the Town ut Nuithig " Windsor Castle, Jan. 6, at'. " }fig MAII3STY had several hours sleep in the night, and is as well in all respe , .:ti ay be was yester day. " H. HALrortn.. " HELlEnupc, " 41 4 + W:nrisoi lan. 7, Is.l I, " !Li NIAJESTY Wrli 118 llc hai r beet) ' l l illll' part of the preced;rig wea, the w{,ole of AN passed favourably." above. We this morning received some German Papers, but they contain nu news. The following 'article affords a curious specimen of the regird ,which BIJONAPAIITIS pays to the rights of neutral powers BRANDIINSUIWII, Dec. O.—A few days since, unexpectedly arrived a number of French Officers of the Customs, with, a detaArnent of the 17th Regiment of Infantry, to make researches for co lonial produCe, which they immediately began with the greatest strianess. We must, hewever, :com mend the exadt regoiarity and discipline-which they observed." The Opposition arc, as may be naturally SO PPOS=' , (I, busily employed in distributing the diarent Offices of which they hope soon to get possession, but they seom to agree much better in opposing Niinisters than in determining how their places are'to be dis posed of. Au Opposition Paper of this morning contains, t h e following : 7 — Lord Holland . . . 'First" Lord of the Treasury "Lord Grey .. . . Foreign Secretary Lord Lauderdale . . . War Secretary Mr. Ponsonby . . . . home Secretary Lord Grenville . . . . President of the Council Lord Spencer .. . . Prtvy Seal Mr. !lenity . . . Chancellor of the . Exchequer Mr. Whitbread . . . . Pres. of the Board of . L'ontroul Lord Erskine . . . Chancellor Lord St. Vincent -. . Lord Moira Duksof Bedford • The Marquis of Lansdowne Lord Lieutenant of Ireland Mr. Hamer . . . . . Irish Secretary"l' • " Sir . Arthur . . ..• Chancellor 4t Ireland. Sit Samuel . • Attorileye4clierat The Solicitor Genersl Its,not been named Mr. Sheridan According to this list, Lord GI:RW . I'II,LE 19 notle be reStured to the offico , of Prime Minister, but both his Lordihip and Lord GREY ire .to under Lord HOLEANP. We have heard another Nobk Lord' mentioned as likely to succeed to ti/e office of first Lord of the Treasury, in the , event of a change of $„ Ministers; and-tve have also heincl "that there are i very tarot% _3 diY_ooti 4111Q11& tl e i ptpty upop t!►c subs je& We can only exprecs mi. fervent hr - ps the speedy restoration of his MAIBiTI'm lie..lth arul defeat all their plans, and afford them an opporto. pity of settling their various pretensions at leisur4, lot tab Some of the Oppositior k , Papera have endeavour s h c to represent the termination of the discussions is she Horse of Lords on Saturday morning, as be . ing o p* stn pletely unfavourable to Ministers, whereas in P °4lt afti of fact every Resolution that was carried in the lb; Coia~mous, was agreed to in the Lords; 'with ( 11 , 11 At option, that the restriction on the li(igent making Peers, was made stronger_ in the Lord ) the it was in the Commons. The dlfficuliparose the nainre of the Marquis of LANsoowNes amend. thi hicli was to leave out the words in the Fir' l C, Resolution which slated, that the 0 11 °L' Idi 4 ' 3 " subject:to such liMitations rand . rcst:iGtion s 41 11, ': should be provided by - the two liiii;sts." c hit bt, arnendnientvi•as carried, and' yet the Hoti•A; after' wards.. agreed to all. the restridiOns, ati propwcd 1) 1 q . !e.c9intiloth; except, •is. we boloreob,erve,l, Cc j the m:* respeMing the grant;uo' T‘rera!,, c" tir more Strong and. general. Her MAJESTY a n d t h e PRINCESSES -,r ift,. Service perform e d i n t h e P a l ace. yesterris a.,y feet'' ing. Yesterday the deep Court Mourning fur the 11 . 11 , Princess AIAIELIA changed. 'lre Office" lt '', ` 1. : 1 1 .;r ing at St. James's, in consequence, appeare" Corrt•dnsies, Without weepers, and with b ul " A ' on their cuffs and paTkets. 'Yesterday bring the Anniversary of the Nill' i(e 4 e tation of our S,vi our to t h e G ent il e s, called in the Establkheil Church the Epipliatiya *a tile was, as 'usual, ob,erVed at the Chapel.° at St..fainves Palace. .The Loam OtIANCELLOR and Earl CAmoti r°P rived at Wit)daor yesterday, about twelve o'‘ l° ‘ii i‘i and went t o t h e C ast l e, where they. reinaino' ,, ab. , Ve nn hour, and then r e turn e d t o Lundoll• Letters, from St. Domingo to the I Bth 0 146 o c ber state, that Christophe W.IS at that. date I.'" fug up the advaiitages he had obtained (werJtt, rival, who had retired with a small force to an4titide. Pvtion warsortifying Portiryn-Prioc e ' a siege,of which Chrkiophe had determined dertake by sea and land. wolf A Gentleman just arrived from. the Co r o t il l " rll ,4 and who was prewnt tat blllll4lgs 1 10 matiolattrires, states, that in every place whe t :',,a I)ecrees to that effir6,l were 'put in row" , " 'ett done at the point of the bayonet; French sol a d , p being always present to prevent tuinells 31/4 , orders, which on such occasions manites'ted slily/es every where. It A Court-Martial will aornmence to-roorr,, ° ,i, Portsmontis..on board he Gladi a t or on Lieut. ". /' :0 late acllng Co mman d er O f the 'Porpoise, South :Wales, for diiolieslience of orders. /4 Captain Git)!tyATT is appoint e d to the Err; '",( Department in Porrsasooil l garrison, in there Capt. Fyi. its, removed to Gilerrvic • , Letters ,are said to be received in 00, 1 ,411 74tuttl(); doted the Toth 'of Ocloberi ", • mention the arrival of AdrWral 1)s Coolt c ' p fr ,1311enos Ayres. The Admiral had sevrerl c i l q " renCes with the Junta, and it was understood tilt kart ditlerences jet -I beets . yijsistied, and the iotetrer to she trade eft the river renurved. 0 4 ' One.of our letters from Sicily, by the 1 n5t ,111 refers to the capture a n d sie.tru6tion (If 31. , , ,V ports; by a iirnall 3quashon noder C apt . At"o4",;ipd And states that not more than 800 0 troo ps re f ! fai on the Calabrian Coast. Ad m i ra l MasT l ,'jili struck his fia , '' , and Ad m i ra l B oYL a had 011 1, .ani the Cueoincs. he diversion of skaitinri commenced Y e6 r , le v il ert. 0 4) the Serp-mine River in Q klyde Park, r 1 several skilt‘ri exhibitors, and amongst ', young Dutch L a dy, dressed in a for-trisool e " .T I / vest, whose m graceful parforrnee attracted g e.O ` i a -admiration, "the Promenaders ss'ere nurnerl ii( S the banks or th e r i ver ; b ut the extrenlo c ° ' e of the day allowed all o w e d b ut o f few 6°04 sitar.ts. i n t h e ear l y part of the day filet' through the ic e , an d was d rowned. ~,„ tion Vas made to save him, but in vain, - body' was nut found at I late hOur last evettlog'o4o A few days ago an elopement took p10 e 0 , 04 Inverness. The parties were Milts K. of 1 , 1 ,', 41 1 ) 01 5 _ 4 1 1 and. Captain F ~ . of the 78th regiMens. „ s a couple were united in th e bands Of rearrito ° " , fure they could be overtaken. r 1 , Tuft IHUArita..... ..A$ modern genius i lPl ver prolific in dramati c merit, the Manager ( L' Garden `Theatre very properly revives blished excellence. Hence the Coree , lY „- Nigibt brought forward thereon SattO l - 10 !.' 1:4 11 4 ' ; we do not re mem b er to h ave ever s een , l ' of The parts were in general well assigneo , i Piece went Off with daili. F.Nltlty gave etre& to Sir Taw, a nd so did ....r.peroras to though it is not completely in his province*' C I,i out was very diverting in Si' iindrea 4 o ,o l !'d not 1001 t fooli s h enough. Mrs. C. interesting in Vlivia. The part of ro/ 4 I means suited to the Lrletits of Mi.s L3 ooo 'lo. l `' torte is not, tenderness and dejedion- , bt fl o . A ., piety. figure in "Selastian , different from that ,of, Mks flown to Pr'"` o6 .llr, deception. -JfAwcail. i)ubLied very well -dirt' r character of the Fool. The play and the sir • ttt t Iv:unitise were m uc h app l au d e d. , „ „ !,;•'; In the tremendecis gal e of-Friday tt , V t' 'North East, nat Jess thau sm.,' rihittl't 4 " vessels wool ,4t' at Gravesand and in osisee I it the River. „re 1, - oat _for times recovvred, and embirras3l':le-i,ot. by the p.urcliww of a Side . 011 '0, xview SOicine w the , tstch r c , „ c 1.11 - e FUtir ' . !Pell 'Jo 00u - .1 1,, k u"3ls-11 to itsoll I t 11. b a h ' , p ra yi ng that the 11 nose would saki Ow speediest means of supplyi ug the deka in the C ue . stitution, occasioned by the indisposition of his Majesty, by investing his Litah4 Highness l the Prince of \Vales, &c. which was ord6cd to las on the table. Adjourned to Monday. HOUSE OF ,COALIIOI4'Si 15ATUIMAY, SAN. Mr. LONG WaS ordered to carry to the Lord 4 the Resoluti.'n of last u)ght, autht&Ail l g the issue&ora l the EKehequer of the sum3:4oted during -flip last Bessiort of Parliament, for the Army, ,Navy, 4nd Ordnance, and to request a conference with their Lordships thereon, and their concurr, nce in the ' lies.olution.—Oo 1.0,,g's r e turn, lie inlbrm edthe Flotoie that the Lords, had appointed 'a con ference tiu tilt\ it 1 1 itt , the Painted Chamber on Ire subjetl of .the said Long, Mr. Si:- ,cretary.ltyder, The Lord Advocne and Solicitor- General of Scotland, Mr. Manners Sinton, Lord G. Thyooe, pppointe. , &!,u mintage the confer • ence on the part of the Commons, ;Ind went forth accordingly for that purpose. On's* heir return, Mr. Long infernleit the . Flou‘e that they hail had a con fereece with the Lords on 'the subjett of the Reso- lotion, and their Lot dslops haft a 6 rced to take the] smite into cow,tderation. it A tneisage k% s interwattpi oronght• f!orn the Lordi, desiring a contvrt , l“;(2 with the Ciltinuoks on the subjett, muter of' it:6r conference v 1 tit January instant. same Maoagers mere appointed to this conference, - who on rvi urn presented a copy uf the it'itoltnions of that Hoktse tei4lve to the Regency, as they itad becn Amended tact night in theHonse of Ciotninons. On tht., titt)iioto of Mr. Seereiary Itr ntta, the Atnelidineins„wrie read a first and second film, nd orditrvd to h a taken into %littler consideration ott Nitmday vest (this day), tg which day the House adjot.ir NIA I I.S. Ana v I o—t Watertiml. it—t Cadiz, 't List n , t NiAlta, 4 Dublin, Waterford. ' OF STICK' i;i* DAY A t swiLv o'cLooK Consols (5 ex. div. non. 66 6 H 8 N. N. Jl4 131415 t FAI,SVNI. AUDIAT L 0 N D 0 N, 1 MONDAY, JANUARY 7, t I. ~.;.