The Sun. — London, England, 1811-03-19 00:00:00

r, • . 7 ..." „upon the enemy. If there wercl a jrAperi of desiroying the power or the resaurcel Tut France, he would allow that every nerve 'shoo!. be tisineil, and' every ex;ene submitted 10, hot . the only oi)jeti he saw likely to result was I.h e ex'. ilaustin ot u• 0 n resources and the irimairing g . ‘• i w es ~ ~, ~„ ~ if our own power, tor objos,. the poAsiz,, of which, for two /1. three years, would u.otl i.,u, s . )"granger, nor out enemy more yulnerable.,,, li,de-.•(.?[)- 0 of o.6essiog one or two gar, own to‘•9t'011(1 . never .pwity such an expellee ; and thp,Pr,t-'ser" rant so tar from coniributin g to the [firer:est of s tlto Country, was asked upon principles contra*: 1 7 to its interest, and dangerous to its welfare, sir . t. ; ‘.4 l ' , anALttrAta arose ; and, in a , 100 ; sPeeo, de. lendld the grant and the treaty entered into be then chit. country and Portual, He , A 001(1 . re- llkit of th g e Right Hon. Gentleman who had us[ sat cl own, to look to the stare of the Allied : Nr j iy in 380 D, and a t t h e present tMinelit. The Prettcnh were thtin in posse:swan of all the Nort.llero"Pm' tactli of Portugal ; but by the unitary mil.,sOnt to 'her in the Ittie Spring, a ns nd`ay th e exertions whiCh were e:grwto relui in lier military est ablishmenti, a change t hid taken place, that in six weeks atterithe reach were esoeited from Virtugal by Lord Wel iingi"' itrtnthet di•dinguished . lye' neral . .(Marshal 14ilord) lied Aso succeeded so , cell in hiS depart te"t, that die Tyr int of Europe was obliged to W I n"l'Lseila hinisell to retrieve what had heel) trill 4 .' 4 ; and in stpttiohev ; 8 10, m.is s i lLi fiiund a force ed in Portu.;al able to repulsi, him : he found, ~,u "" the reitular army, a twin ia, whi c h, b y its "ihcsAlle and walnut, had already t a k en 5000 French Prisatiers.. wh at . who a n o t this country hope from 6uel ,`, l4i :froti ? mibt . it not encourage the na ; o f 16 Nor;11 ? Might it not encourage—. b { tH , ' ', lt 11 11')1 allirnae.....the must insignificant to some 0:14t1"110, and tenure Europe in general to elarla,e ,-;"aITY. thutnent, and avail it , elt of the noble les ,J„ll Pollllgal, its he Lid collected hoot Unduubt:4l I"arter*,.4.l put on foot in the last campaign op. • " 4 6 of ton 'thousand men, a greater nuinber thdti Watt, ,„" ton hy any of the old military got ern. -ents , 1.; ' . de 1)1'04 till* fad, might have the cunt I),Q:erftililltittellee upoti the Tyrant of Europ' , '; no Icertirtnitries might be stimulated to a stintiar en. t e v il ' l ri i, 'o '''' lien they foun4 filar Poi toga! sec:cue:de(' 4411 e' beyond the 11101 t sallgOine expeitatious• that liaV e beet, finned of her. . . . , Mr4llEl4lAnTl.k said, that he should Mat do j"iCe to 1 ► ; i t ; , j ' s '""illl''s, if, tr:fore the cill.itiOti .. went 14 a l ' ,l *, Ile did nut st an the reasons by 'which alts Wit "( - 1 , thcat . rh out to vote against the i n, -4 t' r e , to volt, for it ' only by cOMpOlsion. Th. .. tk:' wu now nolort inlaid), in stieh a sit'lall9ll, .. iLtl: Ithoulifeithi r a,. ree to the ' motion or r.ll-3'' 1. "Ithbuld II 4 r„ rr()Ceed iq r 'Siiite itii roason4 tor dtsap; ov • t, 1 1 . 1. , 'de uoteol tipOts Wittc!l .%. 'misters . had 'a c.ted , , 11 , 1 '1 1 Ile thottiln h i ,f t n . uia..i.h i the county y , 'lii . t,i . a 14-1,:/(1,311er: Kir ihi• lio.rpoii:lte should g') Kick' . 4 1,-- i* gitioi,,,, T„, 4, ( ~lii , g s, u p on w loch the' l it e 01 5e,410 Virlis undertaken wore wit:ht.honour -14 ,°,. 'llia eOiniti.y, and tiles prind pie' , t as most .):•Ist '1,,,,""t ; the priliciiilo Was to fetid 'fur .all the ils %1,),:ri'':"1101;Could b • of any advatiti'g, to' Itei, cni : IT T ' i l, l r own iinerests at Itie 3 .1111 r! tittle With ("ha . Iliiik:l 0 interests the prhici, It! ~t it I;r6itt afittg,:t.rotti l!p(;„ .1 1 6 tti to h , tl) It appr , ,ired, t hat,' tar flout acting 41.1..t111113 Prilleiple Niii.i.,tt•ri had betrayed it, and ti l e:, e ,' t ile ti', eiio n w hieh ii Wal' grounde thirl'l'vrrill'to i i i,, i to hAvq,injored the brow' se cut ti ,t4u"trythid her rallies by tii;i manner in which' it) it , 1 :;e1 !I'l.led, or, rathor in v. hieh they per‘erted, the cli n i, S Wi a' whith they wore eittrusted. The system hie l j," l.l , ii g .13ut11134 rteu;ant the Continent had 13::enr Iv o ( " 4 r", and th e leAson deduced front that trial .40'11'41 liraliin snould'assist the efforts 01 those 6 , were inclined to rei*t but should - not So tar -.ltrii i 1 , , 'xitt . er 'df iti the conte,t a s t' risk her , , own t„ ee • lie would not Wier into the details, II"' tit'et:3ltl the battles, by which the glory ~,(11 ...4,44 oritiqi rritrte• mewl tut Vitterd, ho win, er vita.: Atnt s ihti i fvtal issue The first campai. e tti Wns (L,eneed by an Hon. and Gallaot Is'i icod '.r.,f, . :ins lard Wellington), but the re4tili ova, placing our v r e c t , ll4 i rl Ille power of Fiance, . with " . 11"71 they kV. Nlged 111 three months afterwards. The le' viC,vattlPsign commenced under the aospiees . of as 1 , 4 1 4, 0, ; 1 bilke r bilker as ever this Or any other cotn?trY 11; t . i t : 1 , 4 ; he meant Sir John Moore ; hut agatost 114,,,,,, e In, against Ale judgment, againit the re t4tilttini.es of that officer, the troops were tirrelll.l - r rUtWarti, and nothing but his %igottr or mind to ll 1 , 9 . 1 ,:'''' of resolution could lia,e szlVe.4 the '3;101),....). tiit t r ', l ,!' it vas Sa' ed at. a wreelt. Suet was 1 l'e • te ',' 1 •4 ,;" Iwo cfilopaigi,,_ruiN,Lis h o t ,oitly to cm, arles,..• Lit '' , ( ," 14-I vts. • Tile th ird ‘vits curittut.::o4:it•ct uneier 161a4"1t Prietid, again , (Lord. Wellington.), and sdillinle system was again pursu e d ; he , ,-, as vrder- No ° lhe territories of Span) ; titis,proditeed 1 ild I N ,?' battl e of Talavera, one of' the , inot signal. t,,,lttitisive victories that ever was achieve :4, Wit 1114J,41 lugs, teat military char:tete; , :tior of • the \vf,t,tier 01 our Cunene end of half our artny.--,, th lt iv al the result of this eatopingit i It w its said, 1311t4r! %ar e nu‘v inn 11.ettuf Situation tintit beture. kt, Li w cetlid that be proved, had we net reiroate... ? 114.civotstri.red not the Commander nor the en ini, they ktit th:ing"lkhed theltselvts by bravOty .io,) sLili, t etit im 1 : 1c3 w ai that our 400 1 , 6 %,,i.,e i)li,,i :4 co tilio u i L eh nt' the enemy, w bile t hey s: i a e‘ eery {1 4 ., :',._a"en polisesiinti of, and thac 1 h e only check ‘,lt',7lrly received Wa4 at lillhate, and What . W,l 411 ti b i l t '911tt4t1 Puw ti toy was in effect blockaded, we 11,1"1:141t(1 ‘‘ CI Al "Sena, out w;th us. when Ititeihtitutil(iv,fightiii.t. , is with him entirely to (let:4k L wouto ugh( or retreat. acrd, LI 41.. 11 . 4 4'B ile. had before said t slit);: .I.:.‘l.llc'rts'ee, , t.tet, ii , , . 3 u t- . -• any of ili e ~ ', e# blame either to the Cummander, ihjeri ` l4 ll b. 41 to exhibit the detail of .t. amen) lie i 14,6 to to Coe try 4- lied , 4 ~ • S 0 much for the.systenit ( *i v 441 4 up on j,:it,114"4(1. 'He would Pow ulrer. a kiwi entitzfri._. (it .14, had rotten troll) the Right HIA). t ostli4 [fll2,'..k,l,letCliaticedior of the ExchrtiLwr), and vubjeci. ",i,hiel,tt tiabtl-s connected with the preseut 14 .4, pre;iittioir,4l,_t!'! Holt. Gentleman had said, that ti lt 11,4114 L', 1 _, 410 ,,e , by. Centlernen upon 'bat bide cult}t n ot , avt::.o t'ilvd ; an assertion in which he • ire.. Out cat 4( l ni, but eVen atypoallig it ..werre the ' tiller- 14n w ri a void thinisuig the Right Hon. fAtii A Ottitl NI. • yi!te, n 11 , 44 . Littler employed io OrtentlOw ol lannehittg QUI against liredi4oM. rrolit wh&evot . citlarter. tic ivisiteA to make an obserVation upon wltathe could not help terming the etravagant speedi of a Right Ho .nottrable Friend of his- (Mr. Canoing), delivered " upon a fortner night, ..,kut at too late an liziur to be 'replied to, He had said, that the contest operated as a check on 'Pratice ; if ski, hoW Came be to con.. quer ? By *bat method was it, that hitting in his Closet, he could direct and cam,mand every Cabinet in Europe? In what particular could it be said, that his situation was worse ? - With re:op.-.a to the eXpen diture of Franee.be would wish to see seine prof that we had driven' hi n •beve,l the ordi.iary et- Pellets of hiS toliiary establishiatent. Ace rditag to the list Finanbiai Bxllo , e of Minister of that Department:he was al* tO 4.:o6lilitle the war , with• out bOrthening hl.i subjetts u ith ilie - tax of an ad ditional shilling. •He Mr. Freemantle) had' heard it stated, that upwards of tlotr,oon entered Spain, of whom only"200,000r were' now ri-inaining. But even supposing this t o b e th e case , or worse ; sup he had lost all, -eve should still keep in our recolleetion the extent auti name of his means. riusessed a great imptitation, and a population he coul.l command for military purpi.?si.'s, and therelote all the argumeots that repres,hted his situation as . despt•tate, and our impression Os forcible, dit.l not bear the test of inquiry.. tt heel been said, that the system bad a tendency to divert his anention from, and paral) Lee his etflirts towards, this country ; but was it not a 'factthat contributed to, its uitticul tie:i ? had:he not extinguished its commerce with the Continent ?, an was not Parliament obliged, by his Deeices, to grant a Vote of six millions to aSS;II its trader Did the Bight Hun. Gent. forget t.o. hat was said the oilier night in the Committee of Supply, by the Minister who presided over the Navy, when he offered as a reason a larger grant, that Buoilaparte ha 1 built 1 to ships of the Line, w h ile we built but tOO ? Did ihe Right Hon. Gentleman suppose, that even it Missena, and- his forces were extinguished, it world be 14a1 to hint ?' He (Mr. F.) was sane that, even itt such an event, he would be able to enter Spain with treble the number in at . present. t 'ught that the principks upon which the war was widertActi was h , tiehcial, but that the system pitrii.ed was not only ruinous, but ruinous in, the greaiest degree, being calculated to bring- the country into a situation from . hick it P , uld not - be relieved. lie shit It out op. 'pose the vote, for the Hou s e was so ghosted 38 to ohiiged. ttiitgree or 'Surrender the, cont , !st, btu should ne satisfied wits having discharged his mind of any rrticipation is ithu approval of those mea sures upon w toot iiii.ters had actt-it Mr, - PULL 1 w t „ ..tirpt - tzt..cl at the argn , • mint s ot the (Jew Jewel) o o Ibe oppoSite side. Trey wer e told in s he nest itot'atlL'e there, was no 'security that the I' troops %votild- tie raiscd, and that ev e ,' it they vt. e t.nscd,' they could t.ot cnn tend ag Mitt the dis , .;i ; thne of ic,;ular &totes; but now, how did the cuetroops tan btl3 rAiiett,,lnd in the wordi of Lord "Weit:ngt on tornself,• • 'wcre trued tit to contend with British beltitas... What was then expeituvnt wipi now priiyetf, whit was then hope - - \s'r3 now silt ce,s 3 . 11e was Sur priied .that the flan. C;itntieinari should have mthly questions, but he rtvi SUlliriAcd itto,l aid to hear hint teviye this questoi . !.roplieeies. It tiny charge 41 att .brought it cer tainly cold 1 iwt tt 411 el It It w is, the quarter trot) whn;ll, ,h e charc harge 'come with wto..e waidiat tread ~ vtni.!tt i now procee.!ed. Thole were rather Fedielienis to which the Honourable Gentleman had alithled, and which were •ilor only unworthy the character of the people of the Peliiisula . , hut inconsistent , with our. fe&itngs. Theadvo:2a-es lot - reform conteided that, the . belety of the people would not resisi ; coat their GoveEnitienis • wer oki and thfectiye; and that lino apar.e would he able to. influence them by Ins off.r., ut regetiefa butib 1.11 , ,5e d IVI.AS, and In contra diction to those lorehooings, In Qntly Of the peo ple diil rehist, and fight for Spain and. Pot Ingal, be cause they were Spain and Portugal. Th e s e do c • Fines, which w e re bandi ed about in' all tih:tpes, weekly, monthly, steed (platter), Were dtsappointed, and, in spite of all, 'Portugal was s.ive,ll:o n step ' gation, and the spirit at Spain was kept Upi.t these facts be should Justify his vote in favour of the grant. - Trite was surprised after till that was said last Session, about dist ling the force, to hear it now come-lode& that we were oceothe principals in the war. The defence of a country might be made in another Place than its own shores, and if Eng land were in the danger tlmse Gentietnen repres,ent: ed,, it was as wise to prevent the o , :cnp)tion ut Spain and Portugal,'as it would be in a besieged town to - prevent the oecupatinn ut the lte:glits'ttiat co.nutanded it.' The way 'to. cm.sider toe question was in ask, what hid this country dime In compa risou with other comitries : m commenced the , war w ith Russia 311,1 Prussia, which It:I - titillated itYl - to the disadtantage of those Powers; to t6on. began 'the war with Aostii wii;ch ttanlitlatet as suddenly agAinst her; in 15!.3 conun,nced. the SPatti-ah war, and in 1811 it continued. The con 7 sequence„s nt a defeat at Buz.ieo mi4ht have beet) more to the"treaty titan the loss ot• his army, and this ,he was astonished to hear contradicted front a quarter which, .upon other _occasiona, unde r s:ood au tat;ll,,and expl.rined se) forcarly, the ninral edects of viLlory. The Hous e had tt,o forgotten b e nr g told, When' I.3..onaparte livent to Sight upon the Da nube, what mighty efrects were anticipated fto this important principle ; but what kind of talisthan was it-which seemed to possess its - influence Ilona the Danube to the but nut front I lie Tigns lathe 'Danube. He rettored to the - tone of the Pub ie the impres,ion tuaile'en• Fiance, and frincited the Moni!ear reci , mine:iding and caleu liiting, upon deliberate measure's instead o f threaten lingimtheiliate cleStrue...tion and Minna 'defeat, • The Honourable Qentlethan then adyerted to ike opi nions entertained 'bv an, Honourable and Gallant General 'en a former night, with iespect to the,ope rations in the Peninsula. In the course of stating those opinions, lie p.) ,eoneeived the Gallant General had not done jersbeetO the character. of Lord Welltagtoo in charging the P.JOble Lord with being, too cautious in attacking 14trstial Ney. Sorely the: i Noble Lord was 'eorreet in toting caution, when, ;whir an army amounting to til,ooo wen oppoied to i thlini'od with; on lti f part, 814 Ili lel forct4 • . • e criaitiosed of Portugueee fronlis, iPe6icis of torce which had beers often the theme of the Gallant Ge eeeal's calumniators, if Lord Weliingtoo had made feeenttack—wriat would have been the : leeettalge . of the Gallant General ? Would he not then tae fe."- terred the HolUteho the predidions which been 'uniformly in the praelice of Makitig; to shee? that My Lord Wellington wan error, iu being too dt'ite with such a force to commence the at tsck ? But the best criterion of the g ell inn' of the troops, was the noble defehce made at Ceidad h t.)- drieo ; in faa, the whose of the resktrinee in the course of the struggle was such as Must - call forth in future ages, nie merely sympathy for the :shift:r ings oldie brave inhabitants of the Peninsula, but of adniiratibn of their valout in assisting - them - in their glorious reSistance, this country would lied its Th reward in having been e means of doing cOnsi derable injury to the military reputation trod re sources of France for the last three years—in having contributed to lessen the glory of the Prince' of Esslieg—of Marshal Souk, wet of other great Ge tterals of France--and lastly, Of having rendered the peirpie of that country less in Metre. Ameng . these , exploits, the battles of iTala‘ era and .13. ic e; were not the least prominent. Within the last m ten orths in Spain, the losS of the enemy had been upwards of 50,000. The Honourable Gentleman censured the system of detraction Which had been purseed by. many Honoureble Gen:lit:then opposite e in releience to our proceedings inthtePeniesela—a'sysieto which was hot only detrimental to the character of the Bri tish Commander, but also injUrous to,the service. He tOrripliniented, in Warm terms the Nobij 411,1' Gallant Lerd, The Ameasure t if „,, ; whose fame . .he thotight was not yet full. ' 'General Teaelante , deniel that he had criticised the conduel of Lord Welreigton, or that he had ac e eyed him for not attackieg Marshal Ney. With ret7kett, however, to the operations it the Nide• s•iiit, lie must still retain , tire peiniens which lee had formerly given, tamely, that the defence of it could nut be of benefice' adven.age to this coun try, '.,r l en that defence we had lost fifty thou .sand men, had heaped taxes ou the people to p sup port the expect: of e eerryieg the war in t hat termer, and who( was the consriluence ?. Why, the etieley were in poisession ot t bewhole ot thePenin teda, with. the exception of the ground bet ween Cariaxo and Lisbon,. in this sitoiltion pt things,. it likely that :the people would consent to; send. two millions of money to forward the, pros cation of a war concluded to such an cud. Now, as to any predtetions A'hicli he might have uttered, in ehese, hot Withstanditig what had been said to the contrary, lite(Gen, TO was right When the w:tr to our resources were entire; Spain n o d p ollee e were e l possession of the I.",tigitsh army. Wtiat %%413 our ? • Our reset - tices Ire not entire, and the Brnislearmy rs eblieed to retroerade. The Ho. nourable and Gallaat Gentled nought, therefore, t het this time ce . 'cocotnercial distress the House was not justified in seri ling oin 'so large a sum' as ,two irodions to Pottigal. fir rFferred to sotmAti.S.. bo bad received from r an Adjinatit • General in tee Army of Voitug.di from thele getheied the information, that the Portuguese sol dier'eerves fur one-third less pay than the British ; that the g mister of Ale eida had surrendered in 4i hours : i a i ed ;4jutiodcrs. lie contended, a err noticing m any 011 the petit/pee that it was impotwinle We could Inaintaiii ourselves in the Peninsula. The Resolution was then 'agreed. to; and the House being resumed, the Report, was ; tweeted to be ' received toTtnorroW. A message from the Lords announced that their leird,liips had agreed to the Mutiny Bill, and some Private Bilis. Their .Lordships altio desired a copy. of the Se and Report of the Cummittte Ott ruder Aree, , Mr. LLYSHINGT6N brought up the Repert of the Nat y Estimates, Voted in the Committee of Sep. ply, which were agreed ; le, with . the. exception ot the ftrit, which was re-committed for ifeelly; on ifccotant of eine' itebrmality in'arranging the heads. On the Resoltdioa for . 'grantihg n titu of 130 . 01 . , to too Poor of St.iNtirtin'S Perish being read, 4.1 r. Whuratteen wished ,some reptminion .of this grant, as the Hen. Gentlemen ,(,:1 , 1r„ Wharton) had promised to make some inquiry roSpetting . it. , Mr. Wweivrote stated, That. part of this Sum was apportioned to the poor.of,.Ely,. another , portion to the pour of St. Marthr IS, another to the poor of St, ,Jame;i4 arid to various Other charitable uses, in supt 'pert teL schools, hospitals,- fie. ; the grant .was of aocienedate, and ,was given in lieu of parochial:aid, to these parishes tti which a palace had stood the p opriety of the gratit was %sell authenticated at the Eetehetpier. • - The Cuetecni.eaa of the EXCIII2IO,OIOI observed, that the, reason carne before Parliament was thts t it had tortnet:y Nit} out of the il List, as Roeal tenuity to the parodies mentioned by his Hut. Fr iced ; but %elate) the payments of the Cs v II Isis Wet' tie steered. to Peltament,, this, of ttockr lit;C r of the ernes, arid in so Koh:in - kin) ocogiiised the pi of tee payto eit Thelteetletions et re then eel eed to. teemeteeciet. uftlipl . l' mere The Order at the Day haviog been , 0 el fel re. solving into a Committee on tilt . Comae:lei:it Credit Bill, The CtiANCEI.I„,a of The Exeueou*emoved, That, the Speaker should leave the Lord Voee.sepea contrasted the Committee in. whose Report. the preieot measure originated e with the Cormihteee on Ilia same subjea in 1793.. The A.3otrunittee of 5793 was edriiposed of is individuali, imly.4 of whom wetre commercial men : the fete Committee was composed of. 24 . individuals, two, thirds of wheat were commercial men, and the other third, persons in office or cooneeted with otlice, who 'were therefore it aerettied in the decision of the goes. lion, •The Right Hon.. Gentleman wino had proposed ,The measure said, that it was a claim on the huarani fy rather. than on the justice . of the House, Now, however The 'House might ! , intent the 'distresss ut diethadelo right to grant the public money un i soch a ground. His ()oh ion wig; that` :tit !laugh the eperat ot tlfr . lf iii . night. eccesicie eemediate tel t;t thole hoNvu2 6 1 4,:r teey weekl ultimately expel ieme teitel tititegr, west e t : . etet,, The piesent euminerei,A attuatien of this coenfee eery dill - teem from that in Which it Lei ever before been placed ; and all orgument-• • there- Which assume - id to be derived from exeerience, were futile. 'He did not con( eive that- we could calcolate on a - by vent fur our gooll„ eitb'r in the North Americ.ln, the European' or eVen cult; to n small extent) Sooth American rettket. fr, however, British mattufactures should fine per. chasers in South 'America, what would be the ree -‘arti Vrecisely that 'prOduce of which is r mere chants already had more than theiknew what to'da with. It Was childish policy - t? put Oti an evil which, when it did arrive, wrield conSequently , eom e eith accumulated Pure , -, 11;; niade no doubt thet the Commissionerstnhe eppoinied . Meter the Act would be trutt.woreby per aed that they vt Geld trot -grant loans, except on the deposit of articles which would be available to the public by sate, ie the event of the incapacity of the borrowers to repey the .stime adahceci t 6 them. that the 'public would .. be losers. Of couree A considerably public loan would lie -eye' to b.:. rdised ;* aird wa's it not' evident that if-Exchequer li fLi to thearneutit, of sit( millions Were issued to'prop coennei . ciel ere- dit, the loan would be itraiie rye?: terms entnpaintit ely disadvantageous ? . He Leneetee that the Right Iron, Gentleman hatibroueet ter I tl . l:i neeesuret at :di, and feelirige as . he did, that eventually it would tee injurious as "well toile: indivie'eJs immedittely con cerned as to the cuuntry at large, he ineuld ; tele.: the sense Of the House.on. the motion. Mr. MAttItYATT declared, 0101 :1 6011ot the subjett hadindocell hen .to cli+irt;e tit.. opinion which he, originally entertained, - He vveie new convinced that the good to be derived fr o m iho proposed measure, wottitt far outweigh the iecouve. iiiencies that might atiend upon it. He denied that ell Markets were shut against us. Ilsity were vet. open ; and there was still a great demand tot certain articles of our home manefacture. - .fiat the capitols o!' our inanulactwers vivre so locked up, that they were not enabled to make the goods' whiclrwere demand. The markets of Martini q u e , Ouarialoetee, St. 1)ml - dug°, &c. were open toys; and the only con seq.ience was, -that the returns were of an unpro.. duetive nature. By a change of policy, however, Mir returns might be remitted completely produetive. If the United. States persisted in enforcing the Nut. Importation Att with fespeCt to us, we Might adopt a similar measure with respett to them. At, present We received indigoes, cotton, and tobacco, from the United States. If, we encouraged the eul t i. vation Of these articles in the conquered cnionies which we possessed, we might front them and frotie the Spanish colonies receive the indigoes, cotton, and tobacco, which we consumed at home, in lieu of the unproduttive returns of coffee .and sugar. His was satisfied that it would be Of ti re 'utmost importetice, by granting a 'temporary relief, to the merchant, tit save hiM from being comeelled; to make the dreadfUl sacrifice of forty, 'fifty; or sixty eer cent. on, his property; ant! by guesting temperer, relief to the inatinfacturer, to render it niteeess 'Ty tor .111ae "to discharge those whom' he employed, and to enable Jilin to mantrfaCture those goods whicir Were still in demand. While - he was 3pealt i liig tin . , this stable& he could net avoiu recomtuendine the introduction into the 13t11 'of a clause. by.:ol,ch Commissioner under the Adshould-be adowed to receive any Exchequer Bilk himself, or to becom e security for any other iitt—Vi.il;.• Whit might be tie— posed to receive them. This lie advised, not (rolit - the lea - si suspicion of',improlner con:fuel on Ore part" of the Commissioners, hut becouie he 010:Igo; was 'highly 1 . 1111)ot-tent' that they should p.ls,,t2Si et weight ;rod repeetability ,which such a rot i•iott alone could give them: Sir J. .I\II.:WrORT,. was more strongly ceev'erieet than ever that Ins doobre on this subject wtr.f..... founded, a,:d th .4 measure woute b highly jilt iotts'to the ci..olwy,:iity. The presont c h iyt, 01 a eee eeee;on eieerely differeie (t u tu that of t I t a ( ic g1()11) trAling, which was trot then the case. The probable terieination ot it wae must tie- Hohad no deeet that whet ihe Care ter the reeiryieeet of the leees etivianced should err iat tic pertl,e. cone down to the House with nu applicution for the extetisioti . of the p , !riu.:, Out the ground (hilt the markets for their commodities were nitee r;reily eldSed than ever. 'Titus tire' ti ittvolvcd in deeper -ruin g heckle this'll toMpted Os' the proposed tveasure to engage in edeitioreil sl,, -u- l a mi on s, The if:pi:Alee at the asiis'aitce v•.iticu thq Bin wr..ht itt atforel ;Teemed. to Milo to be menecee As he Was persuaded that \i hen toe period pi . ele ment arrived, that period eteld he exte h d cl l, a ti d that this teperat'ion so , ,aLl be repeated until the whole sutri.ii, i ittall l a:.l,aucqd Was hAt ; the come.; reteece svueld be, ttwt l'arlisment would visit oti to unoillyiniing and nictil the errors of itundinee speculatore, The: House they divided—. rut thy; Alereer . . •1 te liki«ll.t , . . . l6 Nt.ijoity • : On our' reacithis.,ioo gunrry, 4 . otlnd the Hrease in a ereirereterr vie tile • Bill, 'anti the CiIANChLI-hic of ore Leceir.e.tuers on his legs. As texas the ilt3i:s-a that etuvailed -would allow us IQ collectetw tenor of Ins observetiouS,:`iteleetned to be imeriettig the House that it was - his intention 'to pent:ski the edVantages of the Bill to All - places -where the warelteresingesystem -W/19 carried on. He :also observed, that with a view to carry into effeet what - was evicheitly the intention of the antecedent:Com mittee, namely, to atlow the borrowers to have the benefit of the dividends belore.the payment- of ittstattnent,i,..he should_ propose I it the -payment take place titio , m,tlays laser , than tLe period recoil mended by ihe Committee. Instead, therefore, of the 15th of tAktlrot January, he should propose that paymelithe made on the' tsuol February. , pruceedtel to-read-the: natneer of thiise whune it was Ili', Mtenerer , o propose is Commissioners under the amoug 'whom s t ti.card the tollewing Lord the lio n , W. Latnhe, rileMilo. l 3 l .ol* chrimp L.lrim, 1. I. Smi t h, Lsq , Si; 1. Esq., sir I. (611 i, Alltettnat, C. 1. c• Cu' w ,l l. 4 0 1* lio, , a,colt, It. tt)rilion, ,I.'l'. trti:ord, L 41., t:,41 , LUAU suit; Esti The etiANif, i t i ott of the EnelltrtlL , Ltt 'then i vt:rtv...!. !oree e etatve: eeeeeieei err Wan,- ey X 4 leele this Ceeeieeeerees see e ld be p Citeredefure'isarreeperie l. , ,' it! lee 1 - )e.iefits tit th e e el ; atm eb,ervett, alter the selection of the pelm,),,s x r