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'~,;,{ 1 \ f # i ; ~~ h y ,,, w , ~~ • • ..-, y.rlifaa3- g of ; c org i . son o esce nt ' ....% .,. . i. SII:11` /1 y' azi9 NUMBER. 9974.1 VICTU-iLLING-UFFIC.E, May 15, 1822. THE COMMISSIONERS f or VICTUAL- LING His iIL-IJESTY'S NAVY do herebn give No tice, that on Tuesday, the 4th June next, they will be r eady to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat for ?leo Hundred and Ten Pipes of SPANISH RED WINE, to be delivered in the space of One Month into hzs Majesty's P ictwilling Stores at Deptford, and to be-paid for by Bills Pa Ya - RC;without interest, sixty clays after date. The Conditions of the Contract mat/ be seen at this Office. No regard will be had to any Tender in which the Price ;4 ati not be inserted in words at length, or that shall not delivered to the Board before One o'clock on the said ths 4th June next, xisr unless the Person who meshes 1 " Tender, or some Persion oat his behalf, attends, to an elver when called for. V ICTU,ILLING-OFFICE, May 14, 1842. TUE COMMISSIONERS f or VICTUAL z. LING His MAJESTY'S NAVY do hereby give No lee. That on Friday, the Me Instant, ilia, will be ready "cezve Tenders in writing (seakd up), and treat for the ' 4 l , Ply (on separate Contracti) of what RUM may he de 744ncled for the use of hit Afajulis Trio?: at Antigua Barbaclues Tobago Trinidad St. Lucia • St. Kitts St. Vincent. Berbice Demerara Dominica Grenada f ' r Twelve Months certain from the Ist October next, and 471 -er until Six Months warning shall be given, for the termination of the respective Contracts, the Conditions of "ieli may be seen at this Office. hall regard will b e h a d t o a n y Tender in which the Price '" 41 1 not be inierted in •words at length, or that shall 7t deli vere d to.t h l B oar d b e f ore O ne 'Clock on the said Frida y, Mt' 31st Instant; nor unless the Person who makes the Tender, or some Person an his behalf, attends to answer called for. -€4 ch Tender must be accompanied by a Letter signed Y h ° responsible Persons, engaging to become bound with'', la ßrtzt tendering, in Me Penal Sum . of 500/. for the due rem, rinan ce of each of the Contracts. N OTICE. —(GOODS IN KING'S WAREHOUSE.). Customhouse, London, 24th April, 1822. W ERE A S sundry Goods, subject to Duties ty% „ of Customs and Excise, have remained in bis,ll , lajes. ti„: Warehouse, in he Customhouse, London, beyond the /4allowed by Law , viz. Three Months,— I ',e.Commissioners of his Majesty's Customs do befebygire h 4 ll ,:ICE, that unless the Duties due on the said Goods are lion Paid, and the Goods taken away from the said Ware. , or before the 3 Ist of May next, they will be invite= disposed of according to Law. By Older of the Commissioners, (Signed) G. DELAVAUD, Sec. EAST INDIA HOUSE, May 15, 1824. •1 111 E COURT of DIRECTORS of the LAN UNITED COMPANY of MERCHANTS o f ENG- Nor , TRADING to the EAST .INDIES, do hereby g iv e • bet" GENERAL COURT of the said COMPANY will kly`'d at their House in Leadenhall-street, on WEDNES- I et al the 29th Instant, at Eleven o'Clock in the Forenoon, tatila ni e Special Purpose of laying before the Proprietors , str . ! the Resolution of the Court of Directors, of FRANKS (i.e .) ; Most Noble the Marquis of Hastings, K.G. and ° Pe ti .; 00 vernor-General of Begal, which Resolution is, now Nis House fur the perusal of the Proprietors. JOSEPH D ART, Secretary. 7) /7/ ti-/t" BEACON FIRE INSURANCE L.,COM PANY,. N 3. 8, CFA THAM PLACE, BLACK. FRIARS PRESIDENT. The Right Honourable the Earl of LONSDA LE. TRUSTEES. The Rt. Hon. Earl of Egmont George Hammersley, Esq. Lord Churchill, Sir Henry Parnell, Bart.M.P. Lord Robert Spencer, Robert Ward, Esq. M.P. DIRECTORS. Robert Ward, Esq. M.P. Chairman. Wray, Esq. Deputy Chairman. Benjamin Ansley, Esq. Law. B. Morris, Henry J. Bouverie; Esq. Sir Henry Parnell, Bart. M.P. Henry Hallam, Esq. William Sotheby, Esq. George Hammersley, Esq. The Hon. W. R. Spencer, David Laing, Esq. G. T. Spencer, Esq. John Clark, Esq. Managing Director. BANKERS. Messrs. Hammersley, Greenwood, and Brookabank, 69, Pall Mall. The above Company provides against every pecuniary loss that can result from the dreadful calamity of Fire. Ist. Ey an abatement of 25 per Cent. on the rate of Premium required for Insurances not deemed hazardous. 2d. By allowing Per sons to effect an Insurance for a stated period. 3d. By pay meat of rent during the rebuilding. of the Premises. 4th. By guaranteeing to Tradesmen and others a weekly temporary al lowance. And sth. By the payment of Five per Cent. on the amount insured, within one week after the Fire has taken place. Every information, with prospectuses, may be had, by ap plying at the Office as above. This Day was publiihed, in 3 vols. I tmo. price 11. ls. inboards, SUMMARY of CHRISTIAN FAITH IX and PRACTICE, confirmed by References to the Text of Holy Scripture, compared evit h the Liturgy, Articles, and Homilies of the •Church of England; and illustrated by Extracts from the chief of those Works . which received the sanction of public authority, from the time of the Reforrna , 'Lion to the final Revision of the Established Forintilaries. By the Rev. E.J. BURROWS, D.D. F.R.4ind L.S. Printed for F. C. and J. Rivington, No. 62; St. Paul's Church-yard, and 9, Waterloo-place; and sold by Riringtons and Cochran, 148, Strand ; J. Parker, Oxford; •Deighton and Sons, and Nicholson and Son, Cam'. idge. PA RI, I AME NT, HOUSE OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 1 5. ROYAL ASSENT. The Royal assent was given by commission to the Malt Duty Count::: vailing Bill, the Bank of Ireland Bill, the Irish Commercial Credits Bill, the Excise Licenses Bill, the Scots Malt Duty Bill, the Scots Creditors Bill, the Flax and Cot ton Bill, the Innkeepers' Subsistence Bill, the Stolen Secu rities Bill, the Summary Proceedings Bill, and a number of private Bills. The Earl of StRAIPitI3ROKE presented a Petition from Owners and Occupiers of Land in the County of Suffolk, com plaining of Agricultural Distress. Earl STANHOPE presented a Petition from the Owners and Occupiers of Land in Holdsworthy and its vicinity, in the Coanty of Devon, complainin g of Agricultural Distress. Th e Petitioners stated the cause of the distress to be the burden of taxation, joined to the alteration which had been made in the currency. His Lordship afterwards presented five Petitions to the same effect, from Owners and Occupiers of Land in dif ferent places, viz. two from Kent, two from Cornwall, and one from Buckinghamshire. Lord SUFFIELD presented a Petition from the owners and occupiers of land in a hundred in Norfolk (Humbleyard, we believe). He stated that the three first signatures were those of three Magistrates who resided in the district. As the Petition contained much good sense and sound argument, he wished it to be read to their Lordships at length. The Petition was ac cordingly read by the clerk. It prayed for reduction of taxation, and particularly for the , repeal of duties on salt, malt, and lea ther, and for Parliamentary Reform. WELCH JUDICATURE. The Marquis of BUTE presented a Petition, signed by the Sheriff and Grand Jury of the county of Glamorgan; praying for an alteration in the mode of administering justice in Wales. The Noble Marquis introduced his motion with a few observa tions, in which he was understood to intimate, that this appli cation proceeded from no objection which the Petitioners had to the Judges who presided over the Courts in Wales, but from a desire that the administration of justice in the principality should be assimilated to the practice of the Courts in England. He was aware that the measure was one which required mnch deliberation, but he hoped that their Lordships would soon direct their attention to it. The LORD CHANCELLOR agreed with the Noble Mar ' quis that the subject was one which required great deliberation. The subject had been agitated long since, and whenever it came before their Lordships in a regular shape, he would give it the fullest consideration in his power. Lord REDESDALE had great doubts as to the propriety of any such measure as that to which the Petition referred. If the nature of the jurisdictions of the - Welch Courts were altered, a great injury would be done to persons who had small debts to recover. The present mcde of administering justice had subsisted ever since Wales was united to England, and he be lieved that whatever complaints might have been made on the subject, they did not come from the lower orders, who would be injured by being obliged to resort to a more expen sive tribunal for the recovery of small debts. Lord CAWDOR approved of the object the Petitioners had in view. He referred to Mr. Burke's Bill for abolishing the jurisdictions complained of, in order to show how long the grievance had been felt. He observed that he did not know how to characterize the present system, except by saying that it was powerlesS for doing any good, but most powerful for evil. He was glad to hear from the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, that the subject was under consideration. With re gard to the recovery of small debts, to which another Noble and Learned Lord had alluded, Courts could be instituted for that purpose. Instead of the proposed change being.contrary to the wishes of the people in Wales, as far as he could learn, they were most desirous to see it accomplished. The LORD CHANCELLOR explained that Ministers had come to no determination on the subject. What he had stated came only from himself.—The Petition was laid on the table. IRISH DEEDS. The Earl of BLESINTON moved the recommital of the Bill for registering Irish Deeds. Lord RIDESDALE opposed the Bill, on the ground that it was unnecessary ; but after some observations from Lord HOLLAND and the LORD CHANCELLOR, the Bill was re committed, and the Report was ordered to be'taken into fur ther consideration on Monday.—Adjourned to Friday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at a quarter before f0u1... Upon the Deputy Usher of the Black Rod appearing at the door to summon the House to the House of Lords, to hear the Royal Assent given by Commission to certain Bills, the Speaker immediately left the House, and returned ate quarter past four, and informed the House of the names of the various Bills to which the Royal Assent had been given (for which see Lords). NEW WRIT. On the Motion of Mr. COURTENAY, a new Writ was or dered for the election of a Burgess for the Borough of Saltash,. in the room of Mr. Russell, deceased. LEATHER TAX. Mr. JERVOISE presented a Petition from the Tanners of Southampton, praying for a repeal of the Leather Tax. Laid on the table. CALICO MANUFACTURE. Sir R.'SHAW presented a Perition from certain calico-prin ters resident in Ireland, praying that the Statute 1 of Geo. IV. which provides protecting duties in favour of the Cotton Manu facturers of Ireland, might not be repealed.. Mr. F. LEWIS expressed his conviction that the system of protecting duties was prejudicial, and not beneficial, to the Irish manufacturers. _ _ _ Mr. C. lICTCHINSON did not mean to argue whether th© system of protecting duties wt; wise or absurd, but he thought that the interests of those persons who had invested capital in the Irish Cotton Manufactures upon the faith of the Act of Parliament referred to in the Petition, ought to he protected. After a few words from Mr. Wallace, Dlr. D. Browne, -Si: t. A 1, lip/ i .VZ s /9 , ,11.4" . _ r —a--_-„/ •f t , ....... ) 1 , „,._ rx 1 Ik - ' , ;-- 4 , 1 ,.. ,- - , - - ' - 4V ) 4r 1 ;; .; p ~: / fa- i k ... . /13 cl ( l6 — a it THURSDAY, MAY 16, 1822. , - J. N ewport, an d M r. L i ttleton, the Petition was ordered to be printed. MISCELLANEOUS. Mr. ELLISON presented a Petition from Newcastle-upon- Tyne, praying for a repeal of the Leather tax.—Laid on the' Table. A similar Petition was received from Linlithgow, in Scot land.—Laid on the Table. Sir C. MORGAN presented a Petition from the Sheriff, Land-owners, and Gentry, of Monmouth Shire, praying for a reduction of taxation, and retrenchment of sinecures. The pe tition stated the existence of great distress in the county ; but the Hon. Member did not approve of the remedies proposed in the netition.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. LYTTLETON presented a Petition from an indivi dual of the name of Leicester, praying the attention of the House to a discovery h e h a d made, of the means of preventing the accumulation of hydrogen gas in Coal Mines.,-Ordered to be printed. Lord BINNING presented a Petition from certain persons in Scotland, praying for leave to bring its a Bill to enable them to erect a National Monument in Seinland.-eßeferred to a Select Committee. TYTHE SYSTEM—IRELAND. Mr. S. COOPER presented a Petition from the Sheriff, Ma gistrates, and Gentry of the county of Sligo, complaining of the grievous,operation of the Tythe-laws in Ireland, and of an attempt made by a Clergyman to introduce a tythe en Pota toes in that country, which had never before been subject to one, with the sanction of the Bishop of the diocese. Mr. ABERCROMBIE gave his support to the Petition. The evil which was so eloquently set forth by Mr. Pitt, so long back, existed at this day. An unfortunate wretch who had an acre of potatoe land had to pay 61. or 71. rent for it, whilst he was very ill paid as a labourer for his labour. It was to the oppressions and exactions which the poor and indigent Irish peasant suffered from the tythe-system, that the disturbances and outrages which they all deplored took place. He hoped that, in suppressing these insurrections, the hand of Justice would be tempered with mercy. Of the effect of the tythe sys tem they might form some iuea from the confession or a cleri cal Magistrate on the Bench in Ireland, in a case that had lately occurred. In this case, which occurred at Skibereen, in Cork, a boy was put on his trial for resisting a distress levied on his mastef's goods for tythes, when his master was absent on his way to attempt an adjustment with the clergyman for his arrears. Several Magistrates having investigated the case, the clergyman, who was•on the Bench as judge in his own matter, was called upon for his explanation. In the course of that he stated that he had been fifteen years in the commission, during which time he had issued six thousand processes to en force the payment of tythes from these poor and unfortunate persons. He did not relate this to them, as judges in that particular case, but he addressed the House of Commons to interpose and prevent the introduction of such a . system into other parts of Ireland than what it had already afflicted with its scourge. Sir JOHN NEWPORT said he'knew of a case in which a poor peasant having taken some of the early crop out of his potatoe-garden, for the daily food of his famishing family, it was determined by the Ecclesiastical Court that that was taking by several:, and he was doomed to pay his tythes by valuation. It happened that the remainder of the crop were injured by the season, and he had not therefore the benefit of it ; but, not withstanding this, he was forced to pay tythe according to the valuation put upon the crop before it was injured. It was well known that the peasant's potato-garden was his principal means of support and he hoped the House would interfere to prevent the extension of such a mode of taking tythes. He did not envy the feelings of the man who could, at such a time of distress and disturbance, come forward with such a proposition. Mr. GOULBURN could not refrain from joining in the discussion which had arisen upon this Petition, in justice to the parties accused. In the first place he must state, that the clergyman complained of in the Petition had a legal right to the claim he had put in to potatoe tythe ; and when he had stated the particulars of the case referred to, it would be seen whether the cl erg y man or t h e gentleman who originated the opposition was most to blame. A gentleman livmg in the County of Sligo had been in the habit of fanning 200 acres of land, for which he paid as a composition for tythes, upon wool and lambs, 81., or 101. a' year to the clergyman of the parish. In the course of time this gentleman took 1,000 acres under his particular care, but when the clergyman claimed an enlarged payment for tythes, he refused to pay more than the eight or ten pounds he had hitherto Paid, and maintained that he was justified in refusing. It was in vain the clergyman re presented to him, that whilst the land was in the occupation of his tenants he received tithes from it ; he appealed to his candour to decide the justice of his claim, hut with no avail. He was therefore obliged to have recourse to the law for the recovery of' his just means of subsistence ; and in making his declaration to the Court he was recommended by his legal advisers to put in a claim for potato tithe, in order to cover the expences of the suit, even were he successful. This, of course, excited surprise; but the gentleman'in question finding that he was not borne out in his resistance to pay the demand, consented to settle it. The clergyman of course agreed to this, but also claimed payment of the costs to which he had been wrongfully put. This was resisted, and the case now rested at that point. He was unwilling to come forward with any circumstances of a nature to inflame the state of feeling on this subject, but he could not consent to remain silent w h ere so much obloquy was heaped upon the wrong quarter, and he was sure the House would see that whatever blame could be attached to the clergyman, there was a considerable charge of indiscretion against the gentleman and those who had abetted him in his opposition to right. With regard to the Bishop of the diocese, he had in no way been a party to the matter; and he was happy to be able to state that a negocia tion was now on foot-to put a stop to the whole dispute. With respect to what had been said by Hon. Gentlemen on the genees ref subject, he thought it would be better for him at the pre sent moment to defer to a future period the observations he had to make. But he,must guard the House against receiving any ill impression against the Irish Clergy, on account of their being engaged in numerous legal suits for the recovery of their tythes. With the landlord before them, they stood in a situ ation of peculiar delicacy and difficulty. Coming after him, he was most frequently obliged 'to abuse the alternative of in stituting suits, or abandoning his tythes. Whenever that sub ject came before the House, he trusted it would meet with the most earnest and sober attention.—(Hear.) Mr. HUME had hoped that long before this the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Goulburn) would have stated what it was the intention of his Majesty's Government to do on this subject of Irish tythes. Day after day, however, he put off' this statement, so much called for by the Howie and the whole country. He was much surprised that the Irish Members had suffered this momentous subject to remain dormant so long, and he assured the Housellatit rather than allow it to go on so, he would give his best attention to it, and bring forward a mo tion in the first week in shine. Mr. SPRING RICE begged to recal the attention of the House to the true nature of the Petition before them. It was -a Petition, not from one individual, but from the whole county of Sligo, complaining of the existence of a suit at law tending to establish in that part of Ireland, the potato-tythe system, which did not before exist there. From the statement of both sides of the House they learned that there was a practice in Ireland, of taxing the material article of potatoes betwixt the hand and the lip; not upon its going to market, but that the tythe proctor interposed betwixt the hand and lip of the grower and consumer. They had also learnt that this practice was not universal in that,country, and it remained for the House to de termine whether it would allow so odious a system to be spread throughout the whok of Ireland. He assured his Honourable Friend behind him, that it was not from remissness that himself and his Hon. Friends had omitted' to call the attention of the House to this important subject, but in fact that they had been waiting in daily expectation of hearing his Majesty's Ministers come forward with some proposition on the subject. He as sured them that he would rather that the tythe for potatoes was: inflicted on the Protestant landlord than on the Catholic popu lation.—(Hear, hear !)—Those cheers from his Hon. Friends neat him would set him and them right with the HOUSC,II3 to the feelings with regard to the present state of their fellow-country men. Mr. D. BROWNE considered the subject matter of this Pe tition sufficient for the House to legislate upon. Mr. GOULBURN stated that he had a measure to submit to - the House on the subject of the. Irish Tythe,system, which he hoped to be able to bring forward in time to anticipate the Mo tion of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. Mr. PLUNKET said, that however mueh he was disposed to join in deploring the grievous effects of the tythe system, as it existed •in Ireland, he feared thatit would not be possible to introduce a measure of remedy which should not affect the right of property at large. He feared none could Le devised Ei::4 fr.4:3'l, li . , T .--- ,•., ~,,, ...„. A' c F , 0 which should not invade the Church rights, and leave an open ing to let in other evils of greater magnitude.' Whatever could, or could not, however, be done upon this subject, he thotight they must be all agreed that it should be legislated upon in the absence of every angry feeling.—(Hear I-)—Ft appeared to hirri that this Petition was very little. applicable to the discussion' which had grown out of it, and t'nerefoie it was evklent hOw necessary it was that they should be on their guard in ap proatthing. the subject. But with regard to any measure of re lief, either they must take away the potatoe tythe from parts of Ireland or from the whole. Whatever they did of this kind, it could be pro tanto an invasion of the property of the Church ; and if they began there, who could tell where they would end. The landlords would not be safer, and he never could consent to the establishment of a bad principle for the removal of some particular evil. His opinion of the matter was, that the great mischief was to be found in the heavy exaction of rent, and if the landlords would not assist them in their endeavours to re move the pressure of distress; they would be of no use. The clergyman hail a very heavy task ; for the landlord went bcfore . I him and he generally came upon a destitute tenant. He had thought himself called upon, in performance of his duty, to state his opinion in candour, and from a wish not to be mrsun derstead. Sir N. COLTHURST extr4ssed a hope that the Tythe Sys tem would be brought before - Parliament this Session, and that it would come from his Majesty's Ministers. With reference to the opinion expressed by the Right Hon. Gentleman below him. (Mr. Plunket), he hoped when the question came to be settled that the Irish Landed Gentlemen would be found to be Liberal. ` Mr. D , AWSON never could consent to touch the Church property, and he firmly believed that the whole evil attributed to the tythe system, was to be found in the rapacity of the landlords. In the transaction which had been discussed, if any one was to blame, it was clearly the Gentleman who resisted the just claims of the Clergyman, and he had no doubt it would be found in every diftputed case of the same kind, that it was the landlord who was to blame. • Mr. LECHER said, that in his part of the country it was the Tyche Proctor that caused all the disturbances. At the same time there was something 'in the state of the Gentry, which called for the interference of the House. In his own dis trict the Clergyman and the landlord had acted in a manner as exemplary as possible. Sir H. PARNELL could not agree with the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Prlr. Plunket) in his opinion of the con duct of Irish landlords. He considered the effect of tithes to be very injurious from the tendency they had to increase the produce of land.' Colonel TRENCH wished for some altefation in the tithes system; and was of opinion that this system' might be ef fected without injury to the interestaef the; church, for which he felt perhaps more affection than any other Member of that House. _ Mr. R. MARTIN returned his best thanks to the Hon. Member for Sligo for bringing this subject before the House. He was not of opinion that any adequate excuse had been set up for the conduct of the Clergy, in exacting tithes as they had recently done. In Sligo tithes had never before been ex acted as they had been lately. In sorne cases the tithes were considered in the bidding for the rent, and the rent and their amount subtracted from the sum paid as rent, but this was not so with respect to the tithes on potatoes, which he regarded as a monstrous exaction. The proposition which had been made by an Hon. Gentleman, that tile Protestant landlords should pay the tithes, liberal as it was, could not be acted upon till the land lords had been consulted. He, for one, would cheerfully agree to it if it would do good, but this he feared would not be the case, as the land relieved from that burden would be ik.t up to auction and sold accordingly, and the same rents would be exacted from the former classes - which were now paid. He agreed with the Attorney-General from Ireland, that the evil arose more from•the exactions of rent than from tithes or any thing else. The course taken in, Ireland, when land was to be sold, was to announce by advertisement that so many hundreds or thousands of acre of land were to be sold on such . a day to the highest and most solvent bidder, and no preference given to any person. He would ask, if such advertisements were ever seen in England ? No regard was had in Ireland to an old occupant of the land to be sold, or to ai , y other circum stance that should give one person a preference over another, but the highest and most solvent bidder was all that was re garded. To chew how some of the Irish landlords acted, (though he did not mean to speak against them - generally,) he would state a fact which had come to his 'knowledge. The agent of a Gentleman. whOm he could name, went over 'a part of the country with which he (Mr. R. Martin) was acquainted, when a poor man came to him from a hovel, such as no Gen tleman in that House would suffer his pig to sleep in. The man offered the agent lOs. who, starting back, exclaimed,— " Good God, I cannot take 10s. from yr.a, I would rather give you lOs. How is it possible that you can make up your rent —how do you live—Have you any land ?" The poor man re plied—" I live by begging. I have not a morsel of land ; but as this hovel is within a few yards of the road by which people pass to bathe in the salt-water, my landlord says', the more wretched I appear, and the more miserable this hovel, the more able shall I be to pay him for it a rent of forty shillings a-year." The agent refused to take the ten shillings from a man who said he was a beggar, and preferred paying it himself. He (Mr. R. Martin) again returned thanks to the Hon. Member for Sligo, for bringing this subject before the House, as he was con fident that the present discussion would not fail to put a stop to the practice of extorting certain tithes which till lately had not been demanded for centuries past. Colonel BUTLER defended the Irish landlords, and main tained that they had not merited the severity with which they had been treated. Mr. R. MARTIN explained. • .Mr. CUI3TEIS said, in some instances the tithes in this country,produced more than the rent, as the tithes were paid, while the rent was not. The distress which existed in some parts of England was equal to that represented to have been experienced in Ireland, and he thought any measure directed for the relief of Ireland ought to extend to this country. Mr. GRATTAN thought the tithes system demanded the most serious consideration of Parliament, as they were the con stant subject of disputes in Ireland. lie protested against re presenting the landlords to be the cause of the existing distress. Mr. HUTCHINSON said, when an Ron. Gentleman con tended that no measure of relief ought to be framed for Ire land which was not applicable to England, he would wish that Hon. Member to visit some districts in Ireland before he re peated that sentiment. After visiting some of the most dis tressed countries in and out of Europe, he Hutchinson) did not know where to find misery like that which at present prevailed in the Western arid Southern parts of Ireland. If the Hon. Gentleman inquired into the subject, he would find in many instances a man with a wife and several children, who after working every day in the year to support his family on potatoes and water (nothing better) would not have remaining ten shillings tq purchase animal food or clothing. He did riot believe it could be proved that 5,000 people were in this mise rable situation in England. He admitted the evil to arise in part from the conduct of the landlords in Ireland. - After.a few further remarks from Mr. Domnacre Bnovvri, Mr. CtRTEIS, Mr. S. COOPER, Mr. GOULBURN, and Sir 0: NivrPonT, the Petition was read,_ and ordered to be printed. ABSENTEES. Sir T. .LETH'BRIDGE gave notice that he should to mor row present 2 Petition, and he hoped his Majesty's Ministers would'give it their attention, as it came from a quarter which, in his judgment, was entitled to attention, and it related to absentees from this country. LEATHER TAX., Mr. BEAUMONT postponed till the 6th 'of June his mo tion on the subject of the Leather Tp.x. PUBLICANS' LICENSES. HUSKISSON presented a Petition from certain indi vidUals resident in the parish of St. Peter's, Westminster; on the subject of the present mode of granting Publicans' licenses. Mr. BROUGHAM wished to mention to the House #onie information which he had received on the conduct of certain- Licensing Magistrates,, and which he thought of some import ance, though at the same time it was by no means necessary to impress upon his mmd the necessity which existed for inking some alteration in the present system, But that which had reached him was so striking, and came so to the point, that he could not let slip the present opportunity of communi , eating it to the House. Doing this, he hoped it would make' persons holding the high situations f Licensing Magistrates act with more caution, and thus prevent what otherwise might be • necessary, recourse being had to measures which might bring disgrace and punishment on the offending parties.. It had been saidby his Eon. Friend the Member for Westminster, that when Gentlemen talked of the advantages of a Magistracy, (and he for one thought they could not be prized too s highlyj• which put the. county to no expense, that expense. might be seated in two ways. One of mese was the exPence of sakry; .the PRICESEVENPENCg. other was' much worse--the ea-pence Of injustice being dctie . by , partial measures 'adopted.: to favour particular intereasi He (Mr. Briaitgham).*as - minor those who thought that if ad* other Means could hot be- found, fhr - cokrecting the evils cont. . • plitined of, it might be inlvisatle 'to 'pay. • Magistrates- *Ara than- that precticeS like those now compl a in e d of should ceinets* to be prevalent. He hoped what ire had •to bring -befnrelfo House - Would lead to a correction of those which hb.d occtlittst in a particular district. •He would not name the counsji to which he referred, but would. now proceed to malettlis House acquaint4tvrith a letter which ha had received. In tie letter it wiz -.stated- that when a person .in that county -apa plied fora licenat.•, for a public .11i:else, he was asked whothek . he took in any, and what newspaper, although the applisration e ; was founded on the requisite certificates (signed by the Chute/ • . wardens and others) before' his licence could be granted. - J 1 the applicant answered by saying thathesock in a pszticular . paper (whi j e.h was specified; but lee should not then, mention is) which VMS hOStiIC to the present Government, ills licentie way • not renewed.• This had occurred in 'one of the midland coffins' ties. He knew that the same practice had. prevailed in .• counties nearer to the North, and. if a few more of them cacti> to his knowledge, he should feel it to he his duty to submit to tha,House. a specific inotiori,on the subject —The P e titi on wan then read, and ordered to lit turtle table. - A Message frorer the Lords requested a copy of the Reportat of the Select Coinmitteee on the Administration of Justice in Wales. The Messengers Were informed that the House would return an answer to the message of their Lordships by Mes sengers of its own.. lONIAN ISLANIIS. Mr. HUME gave ziotice, that on the e ast su pply day, either on the motion for the Speaker's leaving the Chair, or in the Committee, as should bemost agreeable to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, he would move for the reduction of the In spectors of the lonian Militia. THIRD CLASS OF THE "CIVIL LIST. Mr. LENNARD, in rising to submit a proposition to the Hope, that a Select Committee should be apeeointed to inquire into the expenditure cf the third branch of the Civil List, said he would make but One observation to secure the attention of the House, which was this, that he proposed' to trespass on them but with a few general statements, and then leave the. question to be disposed of accordiru to its merits.. The present mot - tient wag admitted to j i ^ one of great dis tress, and of overwheimizsg difficulty, Economy was called for by all classes, and the call had been made even from the, - Throne itself. Without economy public credit could not be maintained, for as Mr. Burke had said, " Credit cannot exist under necessity. Credit and necessity are naturally at vs ri awe, and cannot be reconciled under any circumstances." If • the distress were admitted, and the necessity for retrenchment, he thought it must also be conceded that in no part of our en pendittue could such profusion be found as - existed in this de-. partment of the Civil List, and therefore nothing could more properly be made the subject of an inquiry. Since lie gave notice at the beginning of the Session of a motion for an Address to the Kihg, praying his Majesty to reduce the Civil List, a partial reduction bad been effected—he alluded to tre.: • reduction in the personal expences of the SoveZeign, and the • reduction of ten per tent. or: salaries. This circumstance ins, duced him to limo: hispresent motion to the third class of the - Civil List. He thought he-should have no difficulty in seeds . - - fying the House that whatever degree of state it might formerly be necessary to keep up in • foreign countries, it was not (lest. table that more should now be rmintained than was absolute-. ly necessary. He could not but express his dissatisfaction at the want of sincerity evinced by Ministers when they spoke of • retrenchment. It was impossible for the House not to see that greater reductions might have been effected without in jury to the dignity, and even without injury to that which was now so much talked about—te influence of the Crown. i t was the opinion of some of these whom he bad consulted, that after the sacrifice Voluntarily made by the King; it wotild be ungracious at the preSent moment to call for more. He bowed. to this opinion, though he did not altogether con;ur in it, and thought if the present distress continued, and he feared that it Would increase, tinit more would be necessary. He however consented to postpone his general motion for the present, in the hope that before the eoinmericement of another Session Mini sters would see the necessity of effecting a further reduction • with respect to. the Royal Household, the Great °Picas of State, and the pension list lie could not for a moment suppo::,e that the heart of his Majesty was not deeply affected; they ' • hnew that it was, from• the speeches addressed to them from the Throne on the subject of those calamities which had fallen gn the people, certainly not through their own misconduct.— He need not recal to the recollection of the House that at the commencement of the present Scssidn the Crown had recom- Mended etonornv to them in the most decided terms. That recominendlitioz; had not been followed. up by the framers of it, who, on the contrary, had come with statements that no re. lief could be afforded by any measure of economy that caul.' •be adopted. It would be seen by the vote of that night whether such was the opinion of that House. He believed that many in the country had been much surpris,-1 . .4 the shifts and ex pedients 'r which had been resorted to in order to-guard againit retrenchment approaching the "Great °raters of State and the Foreign Ambatsadors, except in the in .anCe of the trifling reduction of ten per tent. which had - beer, made. The Civil • . List had at various times been -altered in Consequence' of the altered value of Money. The expressions used by Mr. Pitt in 1792, on an occasion of the kind, were so remarkabl e th a t h e must beg leave to e quote them to-Mr. Pitt said, " the prophsi. tion . then brought forward had not for its object the advahed ment of the Civil List., He had no disposition to add ttith i e existing establishments, but the advance which had taken place - in the price of all the articles of lift, which every Gentleman felt in his private arrangements made an increase necessary.n e . It was - not proposed to add to the quauttun of meonificenee which had been thought necessary for the So creme( Or - the Great Officers of the State." It was admitted in a Lite repott that our present financial arrangements ought to be founded on those of 'I7W2, when the prices of things were higher . than at present, and the means of the country were greater. It the alteraion which had lately been .made in the velue of rnor, made no difference to our Ambassadors abroad, it made a . - terial difference to us, end affected our means of paying :hale In that branch of the Civil List . which he had brought unose - the consideration of the House a vast expense was =arrest. which had nothing to do. with the personel comfort of the Feee reign. The sums so appropriated were of nn use hitt to er.:..t,lc Ministers to purchase the venal services - of those who were posed to sell themselves to their views. He should. pethert. be met with the statement that any thing that could thus he saved would be but as a drop of water in the nee, and that it would fall in with those retrenchments which the Chateelier of the Exchequer had said could afford the country no pacer title • - relief. Admitting this to be true, he would still coritenu tteit the moral effect which they would, however, prod-ace :host prove highly important, as it would cheer the people with the hope that they were really sincere in their profs: lions of-en:they to diminish those burdens which were at present so geneinliy felt. The Civil List, he begged to remind - the been thignented in various ways, in 'some instances by pen. • tive additions, in others by being relieve.; from chargda e which it had formerly borne. NI; itli restiect to the the Leh class in the third brahch of the Civil List, rt was the, as ne had already stated, that a reduction To the =film; of tene per cent. had taken plate ; but it was to he rernerntered, tea, that some sources of revenue were purpeseiy kept bcot account of the. Civil List;- he alluded to the setsehuen Of the ,Duchy of Cornwall, those' of the . frachy of Lanchrtan • and the nroits of Admiralty. These ought, in his all.to be brought forward, so that it might be seen hew they were applied. For the second class; wris net •.o see, at, e slightest glance, that the sums ellewca for dee F e es-at -- Household could not be consumed hut in pereuisites of , , or in the most unnecessary profaeic . • Ttii! to-be altered, and on looking over it. they mast Iqe (het it : tained the names of many who were not in that situatiya made it at all necessary that they should receive money fiem (tic. public. The third class, to which he would particularly &ire& tne attention of the - .Holier, was very fertile in expenisr. _ snre bassatlors were now kept, not only at ail the great Coutte'esi' Europe, but at those which could only be regal-tied as sittehitds to one or other of the Great Pdweis forming the Holy ALL:we. • One appointment of this description was so recent, that general attention now rested - .on it. IC he succeeded in getting the-ap pointinent of a Committee to inquire into thelhital branch of the Cinil List, he hoped he should be able to snow,' th.add a' Switzerland fell in the locale Of - Eunofe,.it was nonneeeesary add to the importance of our Representative these, by seheir4: an Ambassador at twenty times the c-tpe lee fornlelly•ltlcarct4 by our - Re-Sider - h. - hi point' s ia Ls one of the • wont a)hoirentents that could be L'a l t:.tittc.ticto of e e • . Peculiar kif.ci attoehP.d to. in trired th the House with more force and,pferslela.,ci:7 ttay. • mand, -by Hon. Friend who tad given noticeCr a .• • the etibjeCt,. and he Cher fart rains-est - 1y alritained: &CA . A rtii .inted pa D n E ic S u l i ß a A rs ß ,.... LE cur l l N ie V ss E p S r ' e f r N i t o E u N si T y . disposed of by T O BE SOLD BY PRIVATE CONTRACT, LL that very Valuable FREEHOLD ES- IttmTATE (Land-Tax redeemed,) cousisting . of TWO ' 4 % t . '" It ED AND TEN ACRES of superiorly Rich . GRAZ c)tbt ',AND, l ing altogether, without any intermixture uf A lt "' (.!' Property,3in - the Level and Parish of Little Thorock, in kNr: R .",,ItY of Essex, now in the ocetipation of Mr. ALEX -4 ,'''' l , SOLOMON, and of which possession may be had at ' 6 ''h t o -e ';' , its nes . t. L P ' art of the Purchase-money may remain 4 3'in F4c'e.—Tlie Purchaser may also have the option of 4 cr g Freehold House, situate near the Church, and 40 r'itw"fiut Upland in the same parish.—The Estate may be ' 4 e- ' 4l ' i ? Vora to Mr.' Brett, the looker, near the __ at ek. _ . ipp Ica i 1 1%t r '' 1 , Little Thorock, and further particulars may be bad ''''' th. Q 0 %.9, Solicitor, Dartfurd, who is authorised to treat .............z ......__ ,1 ~..... ' . F. SUGAR PLANTATIONS in the ISLAND of GRENADA. 11, . ti, , „ TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, k)1,11;,..c•ir CHILD, by Order of the Assignees of . .Tessrs. 1 42 4 RO) and Co on 'TUESDAY, tha 4th of WN,E ., , Lee 24 41 ' Twelve o'Clock, at the AUCTION MARI, A r on. Al s .„ l - those TWO Valuable and Productive 4 41 1 s•-'OAR ESTATES or PLANTATIONS, called TIVOLI Li4d_err. j PHN'S advan tageously situate in the Parish of St. ,)o ‘ A 'r ' '' the ' lsland of GRENADA, containing upwards , -'4 1)-res, together with the Valuable Gangs of Slaves, 14,!tilitT e e s _L r ve - and'D e ad_St •k thereon. 4 0 .f.1 e0r,„ ! Ttire Particulars may be had of Mr. Hoyes and 4 t t:s e o ?z h titin Munro, in G ' renada • at the Counting- doss.. gi4 tr g ata A nt s di s i t e gies e. Lawrence' Pountney•lane; of c iC e il t i a c r i y tors, 26, Prince's -street, Bank di." , ited ',. 's Office. Auction Mart, Lon •-tt's. ° L W. Leifehild, Land Surveyor, &c. Enfield, Mid• Nr . y rit, . -1 * of SALE of the ASPEDEN ESTATE, near BUN TINGFORD, HERTS. ty D ,W. Lp r , To BE , SOLD BY AUCTION, -.oLbs',,.'„.' CHILD, by Order of the Assignees of Messrs. 442 "c ) and Co. on WEDNESDAY, the 29th of MAY, oit'dt Twele e o'clock, at the BELL INN, BUNTING. , s tliep„' in such Parts and Parcels as will he specified in 45C° ,raract, of which due Notice will he given ;) ti r 5: 0 -'-1 141 FE ESTATE of MR. CHARLES --( '"OLDF l'A t oliv, k , .RO, aged 4, of anti in TWO Valuable and Ai," ll {, - "lANOS; Capital MANCION-HOUSE and Olitt, art bl , several FREEHOLD and COPYHOLD LAND; , , ' • , r 'l l , Atid Vibe several Parishes 'of Aspetien, Laystone, /Yard, containin ;4 1 ,, u 1e' ai,, u u . t ball, in the County of Herts, ;,. 11; 4 , 0d ~. 1200 Acres of fine Meadow, Arable, P a sture, i, ** tir t t" de . t,4 i till • L'elfehild r espectfullyinforms the Public, that he y ",,._ i. , . 11_ , of .:".0 ised either to Sell or Let the whole or any rtip kt "v Propert durine th • Life of Mr. C. Bolder°, by . l ''' t (ci ntra t Y '' e ka 4 r ic qlar s ~, • ti,„,'2, L ona !Y.,.b! . bati at the Secretary's Offi ß c , e ir , Auction (4,ru s ; Ram ' ' ' B el t , Buntlngford ; Ange l , Three y St % Ed• A r ehe ster ,Tr.! Newmarket ; Sun. Cambritlge ; Cup s , . .ztp;,s,ll-Iliasite''etildeli, theiznsfurd ; Swan, Bedford ; Salisbury , ; White Hart, S. Alban's; Green Man, Bar d' % V. L e . )4.Y Arms, Hertford; Saracen's Head,Ware ; and e. .Ifeltild, Land and Timber Surveyor, Enfield, Mid- P„," , , i .. .. 14 tth 'log' tht Estates,be made to Mr. 1,, ri te. w o: ,, , application may m . _ ki t4 e t , th e , 7. ,:i' n "•: . rd, at Aspeden ; and Particulars and Tickets urr, tt 'un a t the di) : 4) lionse and Gardens may be bad on ap -4 t 4 B ink oe of Mews. Lamb and Co. 26, Prince's-. low e ven ie at the suf cola s in^ you Om"' Dula and :001- rice A to let, Burr 'ices the ppo ary, De a the .tent our ;I'OE ll d to will 1 5 or . tie r o lfair e be are' at , ,te DUld 'are' evils vith silt' rests n to • pe st , but ance tut ; un- sing way eVil s nett are P art pre' i dea pied they DDS Us• Us. onCl e ctiY e cal f° ect►9l g i Ot• l i e nvi ehar4-