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-11.1.)E11141, PARLIAMENIr •• • ROUSE OP PE,R„IiS,,. ," fit IDAY, MAY 3 1 .s ' ''. ' •,. r., :, .. , BERKE.I.II, PLERAGg• • TheirLoidships, by sp ec i a l a dj ournment, met for' lock. the further i nvem i gation of,this case, at ten'c A number of Wii nesses were examined. .The ° Corn-', siiiiee , closed iii Proceeding 3 at . balf-Pag,l; at lon O'clock, niter adjourning the further constecr of the ea,e till Wednesday. i Soon at ter prayer* weie read, 3 i t THE kmr"Al. ASSENT f 01 Wli siren by Contrnis'Aoo to the New.oun tisrl _.,.., courts Rill, the Quarantine Officers, the kitten Ad , tlitiowit panes isle of Alan Customs, Tithber lln-.. ties, Sugar Diqillerii, Irish WtIICS Prizic.,e .pilis the i s stlve Million Loan !Jill. the si x Million Ex-., O l rgaer Bill s, the One ,million and a flail Ex el. Bilk, and to several &Ili of a Private or . otal nature. . -4 Tim Lordi C ommissioners were, the Lord CHAN: TELLOII, the Earl of AYLEBPORD, and Lord WAC IINQ II Alti. ' ' lilt Ruport of th e CO on iu'Y'S 15 "te Bill; 'Toll Whiqh then mmiitee La I\l ships w,cre G sum itiont'cl, bring ta k en into consi&ratiotl, Lord IltomsbAtti rose, and called the particular inte nlittli iii ,he frouiie to oLe of the Clause iri the kill, nt In' , which w ei . :harg e . 'lit estate :t Th kile nib", 1 14 ex pended by a . rt..natir for lire (iii the cPPairs of ' 14 M '"ie" HooseL-3 Priiicipk, ‘vbieh;troder titealost4lices of the ease, he ar . glled at c°l!BCier`ibh.. II'IVII, wa, hi3Oly titijost•ifi.thle,' either in point , of ' l ' '4.104.. lie rotrred 19 various caws iti sop- Port el liis arguttiew. ile'eonsiderud it i 6 a Pat WI 411 'i utttilst violation of a general and kncv.vn law of that, r , 4 ," 1, and C-tidinp„ shot.ild Parliatirent Sattlioll ,"" Bill to elitAlt,t i ,oti, rule of law in fav'otit'Oforte ueserip,:uii of 1,1; Mitk:ity'Wsilbjoa,, and a attte'ret't n fur Ole others, His Lordship conducted, l")s:i 11.4 ‘• '4i . 11 4 4 ' to iirnellit the clattie, ;.is to exi)olige the objet'iiintahle part. fav our PITZ".vturAA, io 3 lisny low 'tone, spoke in ' t ullr ' a s We could t:011ea, of - the clause lecrlanit9g 41', . ,;t s origmal shape. ' ' AL: Lotto CtIAN(MLi 0 . 11 decidedly 'stipporl,4l . i' - ie °i'letlintts of his' Noble and Le * arned Friend, and 'con nut by 9 . oseryi;:ig Coat the etre,•'t 4f•tht:clatise eit7'B%, 144 ( lore or less . than , :untie to the Legislature' C.-`) eticumber the' est 3., ',ullit.h bkith qs 14W and lb ecially, ought to be Ml 'toile tinabered : u The Earl of Sloth' liok in fivian . (4. toe ci"--..e :.: -I tint, ontendr:d trial the PetitiOner, Mr. Grey,, w a s ' I,„tatited to a cot sidetotion t i the monies expet,dcd 1 _ ,_ . , ~ t., . vl n.aLwlitelt rendered the estate so Inuelt the . More vo;uable: • ' '''' ' . 1..0rd ELLENnottnuoti att s a ted in ut)Onrt.6l.• the t)b " . jetAr rm A !-ii, WOble iiiid..l,,earned Friends. . lard t ! -ii , and Lill Siii AN !Jou: i,hortly de i_ivertll their sent:rnetits;' ant: after •. fvw words train 1-414 WAisiszuit,Oi, a d,vision took ' place ) wt`en there appeared-- ~ . or the origin a l Clause - 1„ tiour,to the ,r If. aeodnieht IP •I . ' ilidirdltY ' '''''24 ' ' On the.questirm for the third reading . , of Love d. ell'il bivorcr ILI!, some enoverSation ensued be -1,,w..ei" the 141(t) etimqctiLLon, liar's STANIVIPE ;4,-K:lll.l,AubEiti)A Lit, and Lord ELL. l 4Nuoitoyou..,. 7 L - he. . ' 4 % vvin,ll the, difference of' Opinion seemed clittily.to, ~.. _ enure,wag the , p,ro,,,riety or IIetCeSAIIY °I kaltiog I c, aleration in the preamble correspondent 114,64:1 Aracndinent which had 461, !wide in Qls e of; tl i,, e 'hllisui. This was e , nteriiled fur ip the, attirtp to .7Y Earl STAittopn ; and ,on .t.i.e question, the brit wee were excluded preparat.tt.y to a division tillilh,it picceeding did. not toke rlitee ; and the. '''" undtrstand was 'wad a tidal time and Mi e s d, , bERTORS ANI) CREDITORS. Lori! It RoEq)At.s for ills rnnved the Order of the Day • 11/e Ilu id, reiVi g of the ILI), tor the better Re ndition of the L aws affetting Dablors and C: e , • • / i , I,4'Ycl ELLtNitottouoti repeat e d hi s nrgunlePts "Pws the Hill, .1.. int•Olted a d angerous clause in 11'' t Liw es it now Stood., . In its etiecis it must Pr',o mischievous il) a variety 01 ways, but Pat"- E.liorly ii must b:i itinly injurious; if not destruc l'itve t t ) cred l, With all these. ,evils ..it secol"d, in t .'' . uPit"4"). lii ite iirvgilaiit ; and, ~considering M that li xii) he must giye _it Iris, dec. ided “e" ualtve, 4 ' , , .. earl ?loIQ A .weut at.some leng)th.l.n.tp..a vindi6a. boa of die Rill, and strenunusly argued tor the ab n necessity of ado iii iog some "le"iure similar to ti• After die evidence which had heen laid before' !'teirigrdsliips' Curnanttee of t hi! aCeUtilUlEtOd evits 411(lali'ClitelW4 A'll.leli Alio want of some such 'measure tr/ . 1-l •e'. bit a very [ lrv . p i• 0 1 ,01 li o n of aft, commit - I llit Y' it w anl , l be a disgrace' to the Legislature to 'cave 8 110 1 4 111:Voi 01 miger y unmitigated and owe trirs,t;dic4' Tlse Noble• tail here adducol a nutnbet; j!,:llittanees of the eties submitted t,o the Comn)lt -4;i7),,1te,.1 wilick was ti.at of a to whii, for a debt, ~,,'" 144 4 he3l doetragd todiliger in priaon...tur.the I ,` le',4 Wiuy-oitte years, lii, Lordship also ad -I.(tro to the eaSe of it nuother of ontorlt=ite per ,17,,41:3,,, we believe, to the number of 196. who, railer 1 4 ,1 \ in their t ai nt to be liberated eswolishedvw're I ',, tb „ ''' t" avail themselves of it, from then nubility 11,,T "Y the Pfison tees , or to . defray the expences o f . lis iiirncelure by which the were' to be liberated. 1) )1 , : al l' a id a Ling and eloie atretitiotr to Use subject e th eir Lordships 'and it was not trout ally pre. illdlee• hu Il ia , h . t trual Ow fulleit corivit.- lion or his mind,. 0) 4 , 1 ,, a 11 1 tehiood on the neees,ity of ado‘itirig bomb tdii,,. (1 similar to the lidi now utrd . er ti.reir Lord-- , .till •enliderat lett, .111x)11°(140114 CHANCELLOR Sarrl, 'thrit he, beslowed p4t)le:',,llll as seriotis an attotitio o as lie was ea oitivinr,9''A had 'that Ate result c.:f thin - attention. titi ) ,7` .4 hili, that the 13iil would nor be attended qt,-,r'e -kimd eti'vists 'which' its framers' and stir- , Pr ) ~,,L,t; (-) inntily' eipt.tted froin it. His Nobl. pr:,:,7l'4N-Nlotrs) 8' ettett to gallon. through._ the il ' i l '','''''' (" Ike Bid. . It was a rule with' him to 1, 14 :', ‘ 14. " 'i, r, ,d as tie lan. No doubt there were 111; i ellS ' 4l ' 1 "' he aft get) which carried with . them il, ~:Laitirc-$ 6fg,t.,tt ildriLltipi hnditilt;Ainaiiity ; but 1,,1.,, ~';',.11); 4 (kg! dini H , liii- r He • emi‘.icierati"tt "il Ilkle Ili id 'il i, l 43°91 . o. ~; i ~- .11.,er.r 4,114 proi.o4ei, to btu 0:,.: • ' 'e r . v" 1 : , '..,ts .i.tb, arise, Me-411'T tniltill'l 1114 7 :.- ~, qt. ;,!',.0. *WI nvirlY • -.ll%\th:tl, '' . , I 1, • i , i here repeat t i ~- H t,. ! 1,. ~ ,„ .s the I"l.4°l4" ''''"' '; Li . ~...i, titat Wa ' i 3.- s• ~; 4 -- 34 .. .. , , 7.. ~., : x 1 . ... % . i (pinery of Abe Bill wag sticb, l ibat, and t,iis opet4- .tion lie was alrbult cerfain,th#t out ~cif t,QQ persons, gg, lould not be beliefited.by it. The 4iii,only look in a, past-of Ft grelt itdivittt iiiiii ow ii 4 it cou)d b© inure, *idriv assimilated and trinre generally ,iiete4 iiii, ip. lys opinion ; it wiaild be fouTi more.inichievniis. 1 lan benefitial, At the iittille tune he was yijilingio .. :knowledge, that some measure wa, netessary, and . ofessed himseell ready :to entertain , an ,ordinary In . splventd3ill in the taws of .rue Bill of.last year. taord, AtottOt , explained, and contended that the ~ qrgutre . nts:itieclugible (c.in , ,t he, cases which . be.ltatt stated, .weje,unansmirered and unanswerable. , F e ld' STAN RoP4 was f a friend to the principle of did Bill, bac.did not think it would at.gwerils pur poses in its present shape. ,He lhould therefore, agree lo.an otdinaiy Insolv . :int ,1131 tor ,the present, in the expectation that %Ambit% better would soon be devised, . Lord R EDESDAI.I3 prOfeiSed no such strong at tachment to the Bill as to make him support it iu pppdshion to the grave authorities by which i(was diicountenanced.: He was ,far, bowrver, from-, ad mitting'that it ,was liable to: all, the objqctions that ere oppn'ed to:h. • The Bill tad, been uoper their Lordship'' , conaideratiol for two Sessions, and it was frainefl on the.principle the 111:1,which,apptared io have inet.with , thetr.Lordships' approbation. Sure he. was,' .at *ast s ,..o;it it was • rnuch -les' hart:lite% an d productive, in .nu dvgree'pf-oloke inc.ipvenienre and. 'expeticc than the ordinary insolvem Bill, . : Nay, it could he otecutal.With lqss i:iconvcnience and ex pensc hang arty:4 I WM. 11 , should not, however, press,it upon t HIALic,,, 1)411 willin : .;!y hear a part in prep.tring an Insolvent, Silt !or The.LtyttiLCHANcvt.t.ou, Lord ,I.llota,t, and Lord GRANTLEY., otfeted•a lew AR4 observations'; :,tier which-- .; ; • Lord MotnA moved that the Order of the. Day be dischalged., which way,, agreed to,, and.the Bid con scouently hdro,vvo for the present.. The Irish.lieslxamination „Bill, the Se.en'lMil lions and a Halt Exchequer ,Bills, the : lrish Hat Duty :Repeal, and t..vw, other Bills, w Drought. up trom the Commons, and leld a h ist time . The Dublin.Harhouri the Washitod Spirits Duty, aid air Irish Beef and Pork Expgrtativ., Bills, were resit a 'twat time and passed. The. other Bills upon, the T,n)le were tortvarded; atter winch, their Lutd,hips adjourn,..l (tot, the Whitliciiitisays) Wedness,tay, sih ot, J ones, ROUSE OF t':}1111410N-S. FRIDAY, MAY.3I. The I)epttly U:ht-r of the: Black. Rod sum— moned this Liotrst:. to this Liouseor Pt;ers. On their [dl uric, SPEAKER informed rne Hoto.e; • hat the R ty l o, ;Assent by Commission , - hid beetv•given to sever .1. Ttrblic and. Private- Bills. [For which see' the. Lords ] • - . The Army Prize-Money;Bilk was read a. second time; and eimmitted for We.inesday next, , • Mr. TriousToust gave notice, that he should nt.al Wedrwslay move, That the Petitions• frOin - the Weavers sod 114(xlianies of the counties of Lanark, Air, and: Renfrew, in North 13ritain, be refem d a Committee. . • Mr. HUTCHINSON presented a Petition from the Cdtholiti in tke County of Cork, in Ireland, , praying that the disabilities tinder which therlabour ntiy be removed. Ordered to tie On the table. • MESSAGE FRVM THE PRINCE REGENT. The CIIANCMAOR of the Excuoiltiatt brought down a ✓,lless4ge flow ih- hi Ind Regent, in the' t i ani e and on behalf of his Majesty, stating, thit coliciaerzatons 'of great importance might b ex= peOed to . atise, and requesting that his faithful COM .lllOos WMild 'Make such arrangements 'for provid inc.- for the exigenciqs of the clse as to them should seetn meet.` . ihe'lViesSrge' was ordered to br. referred to the Committee of Suv.ply on Wednesday ii•-xt. The 'CHAIS.CP.i.I.OII of 't tw EXCHEQUER then said; that ,he . Should pv,ipose a Vote olCiedit, founded on the abOvp Messag e ; and at same time move, The appropriation of i;ie Surplus af . the Consolidated Fund, and tor . • leave to bring in a Bill . respecting Lot tery, in, ttie Committee on 'Wednesday Pext. Oil the Motion of Mr. WHARTON, the House' went into a committee of 'Ways and Means. , In -the Committee Resolutions 'were agreed to foi Paying and Clothing the Militias of Great Britain and Ireiaod, and' or making . - Allowanees to the Otticers,.tirc. The Report on Wtidneiday. • The CHANCELLOR of she. EXCHEQUER gave no tice, that he should on Wednesdor move tor,leave to bring in•• a Bill to Suspend the Payment of-,Draw,- backs upon Certain articles exported; and I .)ofore the Session closed, he should move fora Bill.to e provid fur the 'tietter Warehousing of Spirits liotn,all' parts of the United Kingdom, not meaning to carry the Bill through this .Session. The Assessed,. Taxes. Acc"Onimodation . Bill Was ....• read ksecond time , : any committed firt'Wedticswiy. The Families' . Bill was ri:Tofted, otdered to be , read a third time on Wediteiday. The London Coal• keters',„,,Rt-gulatien Bill Wa4 read a seci•nd The Report of the General IntaosureOl' postpoued till Wednesday. * - On the Motion of Mr. Wrt tTlitiiisn, an Acconii't 9f all Old Stores, damaged or uSj-ss, in the gtkinit, °dice,. accumulated wiihin last five yhrs,' was ordered to be laid before the Howe., • • Mr. .FosTaa brought in a Bill for remedying A 41450.4. in Put4lic, Otticies Ire13:0 :.which wai 'read a first tine, and. 9rderql for a ,spond 'reading on Wpdoesday'..., THE ROMAN CATHOLICSOF IREI.ANb. Mr. GRATTAN moved, That the Petition .of the Roman Catholic!! of Ireland, praying for a retnovol or the disabilities under , whicit they, at ...resent la both% be read. The Clerk accordingly.-read the 1 1 e6tion. Mr. GRATTAN there moved, That ,the.,Thanka at the HJ(ISe to Lord Wellington, and, the Qtifeers and Soldiers under his comitfand—tire Thanks also to the Portuguese Forcei—to General Grahatu, and his Officers and „Men, for the victory at iisir rOia, be read which was read accordingly by the . . , Mr. GRATTAN again rose to call. the .attention of the 1-10.1%e to the subject of the Petilion just read. 11! 1 4!;t Hon. Gaifflernan, in a . speecti of very Consttletabie length and of -great abilicy„ stated the . , claiMs of the,'Ntitlanets to'A'partic;peti&cia'cOni.. moil with their Pi•otisfint flit'ethreil, Of iho right's and hoeriles of the ConsiitutP.n. The.,stibjett i ", however, has, Seen so otti'n before th. '44:4use, that - , we ~lust ciihfinc our report br . .iet'skeect) of He atglitreut,i Which the' Right 146n.' . Gentletrian . used. The Petition would bear testimony,. heob.- sered; Of' the - general good'cundit6t . of that body bf stibje,A4,-!whose geneiation dila - House :was aboutto try, and.'whw:e pacific. disposition, ss Metntrers of the State, lihey were going to ,discuss. In order to insure their 411;giance, penal laws had been framed. `,The:q4ihiying oath which they were conipelled to tgke, was a penalty bf the %torsi' kind., Denying"itielf; and in a ais g uised' manner calling,upon the 'Creator to witness what the Train ers knew, when they exacted it, Inuit be‘a per jury. The HOnse were then. sitting in judgment upon the bulk of the'people of Ireland, ' whit 'were branded with charges arising from the prejudices which wire Unwisely inculcated by the doverument. The very laws to which 'he had 'reterred; sliewed, that So far from Considering the Catholics' as a race of Chri.ii ins*, they were 'nuinbered down as little better than idolater., who, having . .turned their liftention to worship she Divine Author el • their existence according to their own tortits,•:weie• judged unworthy of . planning.. In the. Anvit rightV ,et State trnder,Witiell.they hued.. The ctfect tit the Penal Laws was. this : that they. marked the (:atliolic religion as having, no other yhjeCt but to immoralise tuankind ; that it was taken up truni inislaken dogmas ot, the ancient I4iihers tit the Church. ,In tact, if the House batted the religion th,e Church. of Rome wrong. the 'el:glut) of every Church in the Christian world must be faulty; and allthet•the gravest, the wisest, amid the best Theologists ; had written, must be wrong also. That position, ho..ever, had been refuted by some of the best writers upon she surtject ; ,it had been refuted by ineslicEnropean Universities, ,who denies! every Charge mad e against their 'Catholic brethren, either. as it istfroed their moral Ca or their incom. latiotht) in respect to allegiance to their Monarch. '['he Government,, then, ,by eoading these laws, must have p9i)sideted the people of lieland More bi gutted, less . mural, and more hostile to the State that the peopi, pit Eugland ; or else iistievved that the Goveriiment ascii was bad. Every charge made agawsl the motels of the Ira h, and agiinst.their 8. tilt), went in direct oppesition to the opinion of ,-very tither Government which had coniroulled the_ atf,ns, ot beiand for the last 600 years. It was in emit to . _contend* the contiaty, fora good Coveln- Men , t wouldsnake a good poole; .and if the people, as Oleic l'cna; Las s would imply, were bad, ts hy, the in Ou, erneut must be tied also. By moralising , lite laws, the people were ,rendered • Moral. He refer t) tie- preamble of the statute of I7`a2, to th,t; docultictth just read, to the spirit. of love tocreased every c; :y between the two Cdon tries, to stew that the ch trge against than, on' the ‘cole.Of rsli . gion, ill-lounited.—" What liana Ml 2 ti.) is wanted tram the 'people of Irelannl-- , Wit), anegianca.. Well, then I repeal the Penal L;ews, hied relano •A ill show you allegiance, as she now thews , bW and regard. *, But it has been ,aid itit''re.vvere sonic 'disaffected; arni,to'plove . this, teretetice is made to proceedings in 1 . 793; when about 100 persons in tile Nortit, nut proteeted" by the laws, were in result, and this was +enact a Ca laghc revolt. At another time another body we , re not in a,st.ite of perteCt allegiance. .For what' re anon Why because they did not "possess those piivileges which as sitbjeCts they were entitled M. When you give any of your suniects theirperteetj. ptivileges, pier), •.I say, they wall lie in pdrfedt .cc." The Right tion..Gentleinan contended, - ihst.the removal or the penal code: would nut only secure the allegiance Ot . the 0,005, -1 hut the tranqui lity of the alive: Was it right to charge the people . of lretand, pursuing Similar measures to those . which the people or tiiigiand bad adopted for merly. `l2ltcy . deposed King James the Second.. the Roman Catholics opposed King Wilharn-•; , in both instances, becatise each of those Monatelis retti,cd diem the possession of t heir civil and rehious libitrties..' Suppose Janii:.S the Second had offered to i he people of E - igland the satne'terms haat Uttered to the . Catholics et Ireland, would they have subscribed to them ? not. There• fore it was not fan to cilarge' the Catholics With re..; sistance, when you gave them " a touch Pt your con dition." You would not be slaves•-,they would not 1 , ,R1 slaves . Was it 'not likely that if one s'ect . was de , prived of civil' and politieal liberty by another, and thakseet 6Q deprivtßl should alter v tr•ds obtain power, Would they not take away the property of t hatdepriving sect ?—lt.was the let of hnnian nature to resist per.. secution7qo persecute in turn. A war of 'see - ts was much .to be lamented. It should be got rid of ; and Ite would earnestly recommend to the I-louse tokget rid of the present sy,ti:lll pursued against the Catho lics, and embrace a system of litirui,ny, which would copduee to the r general benefit of the Etupite. Mr. ,G,'rAttan then referred to the reign of Charles the lilt', in which many abuses had been practised tgalitist private property, by confiscating it under the saittaion of law, wattle lea to' the abominable Inas- Sat:re su tnoch condemned, as arising'froth the bad cooduet 'Ol an atrocious (A;UVertitileillt. It was a pro. .position not to be denied, that if the people Or Ire• laud were 'in „tiossession of their rights, allegiai;ce would follow.. Posiession and' allegiance were not incoMpatible; but oppretisioit', arid allegiance were incompatible. if the people were continued tia. -1 11 :w ere. in a hut.hed state of tibial - I'4lnm at tkeir condi tion, much evil might arise ; and the reason fur that continuance must be, that . the Gown nment 'thought them ioo ins ell'iniored to be relied on. LTofess: yen give ail sects their liberties, on inem depenctente is not to lie Repeal the lavvs, and the cause of '.Cu mai:4la painful d i srinction in the civil rights :6f any Suite, was neither wise .09 r,,politiC.' 166 principle" 'of the preserit Goern nerit Was little More than a civli dis 1t ilthCation, arising from the 15vv 'of conqutest ; and was it .i:os7 slble for any length of time, for any Government to goVeytt any people 4iatreti 'a law I To govern:a people who were only i n half 'allegiance was wrong'; but admit thihil , n 'itV, a full,' . P : irticipation of their al legiance, and then see` the: etfeet. A contrary pu iicy war. wholly, absolutely, and tittet4 No Governalent ti t ad the right to make par tiat laws., The first principic ,of legislation forbade e it. Arbitrary laws on religious eliiitions u unjust. The. Deity did - not interfere ; it was not,. therefute, • the privilege of man to erect. a - sort - .of inqutsition; to tar. etit 'the thotights of hiari, and to ( - -Otiipel a disclosure- of his secret ttit.tiveslor preferring the mode. of wors!lip.svhcch lie imd cbaliieil out for, Mari ",:id no wore the. right U) prevent another fr-m 1w re i gion than lie had to pre me to make one tit him It would bd somutliwg 41k.i _it - 01)41y to (svpcvielite• ' religion of the . Altoight y \ i and 3•Goverirnent tnlett well pretend to oidke•ttte lAA, of wo►ion, Which emhiates from G.)d, as to r.l Abe a reitgidn tar wan. Mr. G. then argnedupo.t toe injustice at Ihe at tempt to scrutinize the inirrnal . ch.iratler , in respra iu •iiisiaiireci'the variQiy.,of , dispersed over this country, nal Within tLe. iitetrw r oii ---tilts din and teinvest of hue retiggous and resounded in the ears. \Vas it-theu ~irair:b;e to seek into their internal charader ? were they pro. scribed onoccouoi ot tncir d ., sient from aokish- ed Religion ) Wait it not i so rt of nation, which the Legiihtore - bad deeinei it 'pro dent not to destroy ?:--1141 then Calimbo . , woe tc, be considered not as ici•laicrsi but as holding al:e gianee to the Smereign of ariother.lcountry, and took their teligiol not as a crime, hut evidettto of their disloyalty. If the Catholic Re.;igion wis to bd' Otidi prbof of combination with-Joe envoi v, ho'w world 'Government get over their cowl - i itt. tion fitey trod-entire& into a treaty with.t,,e Kiog of the Two Sicilies (3 papist),' proof of his"beinglittached to France?. If So, :4 'oat allegiance COtifti country expect Qom micti att Ally. The Poriugueze were subaidized, ,ind a treaty way entered into, in which tittr.-ot the stipo lacons wits, that PtICCWilfl not to -be4nade tinte.is the House of Braganza was on the . Ihrotte ~1 Po; tu7 gal. Was the - Gnverfitnent sure of the a tachtnent of the House of Braganca ThiT were cif the 110. Man Catholic persuasion, and was that,-eilt,kiv,eui their attachment to France ?. The blood' and money of the people of Irehtnd were , einplo)ml in suppoct of these Allies professing the same-religion, and yet they were to' he tliignalified because their relfg;c►u • furnished evidence- of. their Attach , tient! to FrallCV. Did 1110 Protestant Religion secare the mttgrily of America ? It Wai in vaity the liritt,iliNGovtltinieni pleaded they dtscontiohed cohnet'Aiott because they ;.lisapproved their mettAurts. l'ile Rlghtlion. Ge tletnaii thought that Ireland Wild itldai , gari -that ti.o - only way to that danger was to aßknit .the Ca. tholtcs-to the encoyrnent of those!civil plivileges.of which all the - tii4senting•bodies of his Majesty'. sub. jets partook. The continuance of the civil incapa. cities would be the Means of increasing the (Log r, should it ever arise. In support op his position blot the laWst of :God were immutable, he supposed ii case that ,the .Thames below Loodtvn-bruli i e were stopped in its course to the sea, that the r N x over• flowed this . House, and an Hotiourablw , :Metuber :were to Eno% e that the Chaplain be cadat w pray and set forth the va,t°t)eneliuu• the Stmts.ha& de. tvcd rocuibe 'taws of the Legislature tw.ich hnd cooler- red Muoa Cluirta arid various other.'blessinv ; would the law bf nature obey the prayer 1-,4-AVouid the River recede rd the sea except tts& iloppage at London•bridge was removed I most assuredly ttnt.• So with this attempt to make , laws of telitoon. Re,. ligion was imi,l :hied by •God tie - our hearts, , and huMan to could not alter thetn: The . decatogue charged . you " to honour your tat her, - and your , Mother"—the laws tako away your estate—rob a Csa!hohc---pietty Obi:- trine this. Mr. Grattan went on-td contend that the Church would hot be endangered by removing the disabilities; for the haunher' ot PiGtestaiits in Ireland were not more than eleven hundred or t., Dive hundred, while the Catholic hody was little short of tour niilliotas ! Was it poli!ic to dis qualify-so large a - portion of the popUiation Of the kingdom ? The laws of God and the spirit of Christianity, were• against it. The Church • was establi4hen - forilte people, not for the king Andy. The law•p'rovided 'that the • Monarch slifn3id be of thejeligidn of , thelieople; but it was wished to be the'clirch•-ef pride, of ambition, and : Of avarice, apostatizinetrom God 'AlMighty with the vices of man in one hand; and thelieople and God Almighty . Inithe othiY ! • The Catholics were interested iii pfeserving , thetPiotestant title entire, as,the tenant ry held utidet Notestant 'landlords. 'The linger to be apprehended from the influence of French , cOun cilroverthe Popp was done away, for France - had put down the Pope; burtneans be had re course to in Order to prevent that influence in the fu ture nomination of Bishops, Here Mr;CT. read •Irent the returns a list of the contributions of trel.itA to me seivice, and the rate annually since the Union had taken place. She had paid upwards of sixty-five mil lions to the Government, exclusise of contributions hymen for the army and navy, and cattle: Ireland was the hundred headed giant, contributing to the wants of the empire, and should it be said, she was icio'poor to recover her lo't liberties ? Adverting to the oath of the Chief Magistrate, he denied that it was susceptible of the inierpretcnion 'which was put Upon it. ' He denied that it was fundamental, And contended that • it• was only provisional. it it ad mined theConiitruction which those who were op. pos.hd to him 'insisted that it did, whit Was (tr.! . termite ? That by :the Union, Grea Britain had taken liom •Irehmd a Parliament in which Catho lies Might sh, anti hiasubstitutod a Parliament iu which Catholics "could not sit. According tn th.tt iittbrptelation, the "union 'was' indeed a monstrous innovation:" Wits-it creditable to religion to sh. suibs it as a State-trick Which the'Chief 'Magistrate could supporconly by a system of abominaole pains and penalties ? -.Viras it creditable ki Great Britain to rest the security of her feligion on two kinds ot laws -laws - favouring that , religiim, and laws orpiessive of the Cotholies I' Could the liberties of ten millions of people he better preserved by maki tg tour millions the enerhiei of those•liboi ties 1.-The 4eclaration of Memberk, i of 'the 'Douse of Commons on their hist tutroduciron was also provisional, not fond: mental. it had been so determined by the Pailiament of Sect lands—by the Parliament of England-ii.mnd by the 1.),.- liameett ot Great Aritain anditelantl.:Neput this qiic. 'Sion for the common sense and integri. v tt t het:wintry. He put it to that old English honour whictrfoi mod the most splendid pprt of the English' cuar toter, an,l which was dove-tailed into the English Constitution. The two countries must stand by o.e another. land had only Ireland for a friend, and lteldnd only England. Their liberties, ,their seenrily„ depended on their mutual efforts. It they ditfered, they won-I be ruined by their folly. He hat often wittd, that amidst the ;litigious dissensions of the, tw.) Countrtes, some guardian angel could tender ~ a A; • it