The Sun. — London, England, 1804-02-21 00:00:00

- ?roprietors of Bank Stock : this was a subjea which zertailly required some explanation. There was Another circumstance which he had heard, tram au hority on which he placed great reliance, but which i;e wished at the same time to state with the great. ?st diffidence. The circumstance to which he al luded was this, that although the Exchange was so great against Ireland, yet that the Lords of the Irish Treasury received their Salaries at par.— He had before stated, that he did not mean to assert this positively as a fart, but he thought it right to mention it to give the Right Hon. Gentleman oppo site to him an opportunity either of contradiaing of explaining it, because if those who might he supposed to have the greatest means of adopting measures for preventing the balance from being so strongly against Ireland felt no inconvenience from it, it might be apprehended that they would not feel much anxiety on the subjea. That these 'evils existed,and that they required remedy, had not been denied, and therefore he hoped that some measures would be resorted to ; the one that appeared to him the most proper would be to appoint a Com mittee to inquire into the cause of the high state of Exchange againstireland. Helamented that he him self could not move for such a Committee, because there was another inquiry which the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had expressed his intention of moving for, respelling the Duty on Malt in Scot land, to which he felt himself bound to devote a great part of his attention ; but he hoped it would be taken up by a Right Hon. Geut. (Mr. Fos_ TER wh4se abilities and experience eminently qua. lifted him for the task. Mr. CORRY said, he should begin by adverting to what fell from the Noble Lord cowards the latter end of his speech, viz. Certain Officers under the Irish Government being paid their Salaries at par— .On this point he would give the Noble Lord the most full and explicit information in his power ; if the Noble Lord had done him the honour to have acquainted him with his intention of requiring in formation upon that subjea, he would have taken care that he should have a most distina and precise answer. At present, however, he wished to state, that certain Officers from Ireland, who were employ. ed in this Country in the discharge of their Public duty, were paid their Salaries at par ; that the Treasury of Ireland having money in this Country, had given orders for the payment of those who were officially employed in this Country, including himself, the Lords of the Treasury, and the inferior Officers,. who were obliged to attend here during the Session of Parliament, in the manner that had been stated. This praaicehad originated with the Union, and had been continued since without any observation having been made upon it. With regard to what the Noble Lord had stated re speding the depreciation of Paper in Ireland, he had g iven his opinion upon that subjea, not only on th e last discussion on this Bill, but in the course of last Session. It would be remembered that he had the honour of proposing a Bill last Session, which met with the approbation of the House. the objeft of which was, to restrain the circulation of small Notes in Ireland, which Bill was to commence its operation from the Ist day of this year. Find; ing, however, at the commencement o the present Session, that the Members from that part of the United Kingdom could not ; in consequence of their military duties, attend in Parliament, he had pro posed a Bill to postpone the operation of that mea sure till July, in the hopes that before that time the Irish Members' would be enabled to attend in their places, and that the subje4 might be discussed in the most ample manner. The Noble Lord and the House would theref,re, he hoped, do him the justice to acknowledge that upon this subjel he had always entertained and professed the same opinion. As to the question of the,Restriaion on the Bank of Ire land, he supposed the Noble Lord did not mean to contend that the Restrklion ought to be taken off there while it continued here.—[Lord A. HAM I L. TON said, " certainly not."] Then the Noble Lord's observations did not apply to the Bank of Ireland ; they were general speculations applying to the Bank of England, and as that subjed was not before the House, it was not necessary for him to enter into it. With regard to the situation of Ireland with osped to its circulation, he should certainly he happy to receive the assistance of the abilities of the Noble Lord, and as the subjea must come again under the consideration of Parliament this Session, he hoped it would meet with the most ample dis cussion. Lord A. HAMILTON, in explanation, disclaimed any improper motives in the observations he had thrown out. Mr. CURWEN said, that the interference of Parliament was certainly necessary to put an end to this evil, which was of very great tnagnitudt.— There appeared to him various ways in which it might be done-: the two Countries being united, he saw no reason why the Banks should not be united; or a Bill might be passed to limit the circulation of Paper in Ireland. These certainly were delicate measures, and required much consideration ; but with regard to the issue of private Bank Paper in Ireand, which was very great, he saw no reason why they should not be obliged to pay their Notes in Bank of England Paper. Sir 101 IN NEWPORT said, the proposition of the 1-lon. Gentleman was the most extraordinary he had ever heard, if his objen was to put a stop to all the private Banks in Ireland, it would, cer tainly be a very efficacious way of doing it ; be cause it could not be supposed that an Iriah Banker, who issued his notes at par, could pay those notes the next day in Bank of England paper, at a loss of 18 or 19 per cent. But he did not agree with those Gentlemen who attributed the balance of ex change against Ireland entirely to the restriCtion on . the Bank of Ireland. If they would look back to the years 1795 and 1796, they would find that the exchange was very high against Ireland, although there was then no restrinion on payment in specie. The cause of this balance would perhaps be more readily found in the situation of the trade of Ire land with this Country. Gentlemen forgot when 'they spoke upon this subject, the large amolmr of the absentee rents drawn trcin Ireland. They for- I r that since tlic; union several large loans for that Count's.) , had been-n.::gotiated in England, the in tctcst nt which,. to the.am 30nt of one tr.iiiii n and a hair . , was annuaiiy drawn from Itdand: The ab sentee rents he estimated at little less than three millions, therefore the balance of trade in favour of Ireland must be great indeed, to supply such a c,mtinual drain. It had been said that the Bank of England had a greater controul over the private Bankers than the Bank of Ireland had. This was a proposition he could not assent to, because the Bank of England had no other controul over the Bankers except by refusing to discount their paper, and the Bank of Ireland had the same power. There was, however, a material difference between the situation of the two/ countries. In Ireland they had not only to combat with the general disposi tion of mankind to hoard specie, but there were in that Country obvious causes which made that disposition almost universal. He did not speak of the North of Ireland, there trade was carried on al most all with specie, and the people had a confi dence in each other which, he was sorry to say, was not the case in the other Provinces. The Eth ic& of the lower classes of people in Ireland was to get specie, and the moment it was obtained it was buried, without the person so secreting it communi cating it even to his wife or children, the conse quence of this were, that immense quantities was lost. This disposition had produced the most fatal effeets in Ireland. Tenants before they would pay their rents in specie would suffer themselves to be distrained and their cattle sold. They had no ob jet-lion to pay in paper, because they thought, in case of a successful convulsion, it would be of no value. Bat long before the restriEtion on the Bank, there was a great scarcity of specie arising from its being hoarded. He hoped, therefore, when Gentlemen were discussing these subjeCis, they' would bear in mind the great difference between the two Countries, and not suffer themselves to decide too hastily upon general principles. Mr. FOSTER said, he would not add much to the length of the discussion : he rose in consequence of what had fallen from the Noble Lord (to whom he paid some high compliments). He was sorry he could not undertake that which the Noble Lord had recommended to him, viz. to move for a Commit tee to inquire into this subjea. He trusted, how ever, that all that had passed upon this and a former occasion, would impress upon Ministers the neces sity of speedily adopting some measure for the re. lief of that Country, and he was sore it could be done much more effeetually by the Gentlemen on the Bench below him (the Treasury Bench) than by him. The Bill was then read a third time ; and on the Motion " that the Bill do pass," Mr. FOSTER said, 'he did entertain a hope that Ministers would have expressed an intention of taking up this subject, but as they remained silent, he felt the call upon him so imperiously, that he would, on a future day, bring the matter under the consideration of Parliament, at the same time he should be glad if Ministers would take the task cut of his hands. The House agreed to go into a Committee of the whole House on the Royal Marine Mutiny Bill to morrow. The Greenland Whale Fishery Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed w a Com mittee of the whole House to-morrow. Deferred the Committee of Supply and of Ways and Means until Wednesday next. IRISH MILITIA. Mr. FOSTER called the attention of the Right Hon. Gentleman on the Bench below him (Mr. CORRY) to the subjea of the Militia of Ireland. He stated circumstances to shew that the Militia now existing in Ireland had been raised under the provi sion of an Aft of Parliament, which was made for the purpose of providing for the families of Militia in certain cases. Some of the balloted men he knew had received the bounties. In the month of August a Bill was passed to regulate and model the mode of giving Bounties, and for providing for the Families of Militiamen, by which two shillings a week were allowed to the helpless father or helpless mother of a Militiaman, and to the brother or sister one shii, ling per week. The Militia was raised while this Bill was in force. Afterwards another Bill was brought into Parliament, and passed, •by which the father and mother had only one shilling per week, and the brother and sister nothing. He did not say any thing upon the question, whether the first allowance was too much or the second too little ; hut he said That the Militia was engaged on the faith of the former, and all that he wished was, that some measure should be had for keeping good faith with these men who entered under the old law, but who now could neither under the old or new law receive the bounties or sub. sistence to their families that they expeaed. 'The money for this purpose was to have issued in a' way that was peculiar to Ireland, by Officers who had the superinter.dance of that business, and it was to be replaced by deterinination of the Grand Juries, who were to Indite proper presentments for that purpose at the Assizes. He mentioned this matter uow, because unless some course be followed dif. ferent from what the law at present provides, the Grand Juries will not have such power as they were used to have to make the presentments, nor was there any time to be lost upon this occasion, the time was short between this and the Spring Assizes in Ireland, which he believed would commence about the 16th or the 18th of March : therefore he hoped, that whatever measure was taken, it would be considerably before that time. He hoped that this, which he should call a mistake, should be reflified. Mr. CORRY observed, that this was a subjea on which there was a great difference of opinion in the Parliament of Ireland when it was discussed. He hardly remembered a question that was more agitated than this had been : but with regard to any amendments in the Aft, or any thing that might 1)"' done by way of alteration in that resp:a. he thought it was natural to postpone it until the Irish Members were able to attend the House. Such he had thought, and did still think, the proper course in such a c44e as this. Whatever there was in this matter that required consideration, he was sure that His Majesty's 'Ministers would concur with the Right Hon. Gentleman who had now mentioned it, in - giving it the most effeaual attention; but in the abstnce of 111041 of the Memorrs fur irdand . , who were attending 'their military duty, he should not think it respeelful to them to discuss it. Mr. FOSTER thought the _Right Hon. Gentle. man had misconceived his meaning. He did not desire to enter on the merits of the case, or pro pose a discussion of it in the House, either one way or the other; what he wished was, only that Mini sters would remedy an apparent breach of flith. The House then immediately adjourned. MAILS. atatvaa. Hambu rgh s PRICE OF STOCKS, THIS DAY AT TM , /INS O'CLOCK. COnSOlb Sj I Red. Ann. - ss s 6 THE SUN. 80LEM QuIS DICERE FALEIJBE AUDEAT ? LONDON, FEBRUARY 21, 1804. "His MAJZSTY continues much the same as he has been for the last two days. (Signed) " L. N.PYS. " H. R. Rayivor.os. " Queen's-House, " F. IVIILLNIAN. Fthrualy 21, 1804. " W. HEBERDETi." The Bulletin was not issued till a quarter past twelve, at which time a considerable number of persons hid assembled. His MAJESTY, we have great satisfa6lion in stating from,the most authentic sources of gence, enjoys regular and refreshing sleep, and wakes from it calm and composed. We understand that His MAJESTY was so far recovered as to be able to walk through several rooms on Sunday and yesterday. The inquirers at St. James's were yesterday very numerous, and more of the Nobility left their names than on any other day. Yesterday about one o'clock a Cabinet Council was held at Mr. ADDINGTON'S house, which sat till near three, at the breaking up of which Mr. ADDINGTON went to the Queen's House, and had a conthltation with the Physicians. We may now entertain a well-grounded hope, that His MAJESTY is fast approaching to a state of perfed recovery. The joy which this naturally diffuses is as sincere as it is universal. We mentioned yesterday a report, and deprecated the realization of it, that it was the intention of Ministers to propose an Adjournment of Parliament for a fortnight. We are happy to find that no such intention is to he carried into died, though we be. lieve that Ministers actually did entertain the idea of it. It was suggested to them, however, as not likely that such a motion, should be agreed to without stump specific cause being assigned, and this would lead to explanations and discussions in every point of view better avoided, and which, we trust, indeed become, from fortunate circumstances, quite un necessary. The opinion which we mentioned yesterday, that our domestic situation would probably determine the First Consul to make his attempt; seems to gain ground. If he is in the state of preparation which he would wish to make the world be lieve, it most likely may. If our present ca.. lamity has the effed anticipated, we shall pro_ baby hear of some movement in the French 'Ports in the course of the present week; but our implacable Enemy will find that our means of defence will be invigorated by the feeling of affec tion, veneration and love, which the indisposition of our SOVEREIGN heightens in every British heart. WE received this morning the Moniteurs to the 7th inst. inclusive, but they are utterly destitute of intelligence. The departure of the First Consul is not mentioned, nor is there one word said about the Invasion. The Legislative Body is occupied with the discussion of plans and laws respe&ing imprison. ment for debt, pawn-brokers, and civil contraas. Some Captures from the English are announced ; among others, a Vessel from the East Indies, said to be worth 1,500m00 francs ; the name is not men. tioned. The Funds are 56 f. Yesterday the Dispatches for the Da , v;d Scott, bound to Bombay, and thine for the Thames, to St. Helena and China, were finally closed at the East India House, and delivered to their respedive Pur sers. PASSENGERS PER DAVID SCOTT—Messrs. Charles Arm strong and William Panton, Assistant Surgeons ; Messrs. j. S. Bamford, J. Bonney, R. C. Priddy, R. Harrison, W. Hollis, and S. Hughes, Cadets ; Mr. john Dick, Free- Mariner ; Mrs. E. Page, Misses D. Butimer and E. R. Page. PER TFIAIIES—Mr. Blenkens, Writer, for St. Heleaa. Yesterday the Packets from Madras, by the Wel lesley, were received at the East India House. We observed in a Paper of yesterday a complete ' denial of the authenticity of the French Proclatna tion which lately appeared in this Country, as one intended fir publication upon the landing of the Enemy. Now we can assure the Paper in question, that the. Proclamation is perfectly genuine—that it was received by the very respedable Member of Parliament whose name is introduced (Sir J. C. IIiPPTSLEY), and by him transmitted to Mi. AD. ) INGTON, who sent it to the press. It is only to be regretted that it -was not prefaced in a way to stamp its authenticity, and to recommend it ttore strongly to public attention. NAPAL NEWS. TOR B AY, FE B. x9.—His Majesty's Gun -brig the Cerbere got under weigh this afternoon abo ut two o'clock, with the wind at N. E. and stretched out to the Southward, when she missed stays, and went on shore near Baryhead, and it is feared she will go to pieces to.night. The Crew, with the assistance of some people on shore, are saved. PORTSMOUTH, FEB. zo.—Arrived the Charlotte Schooner, Lieut. ALT, from off Brighton, and sailed again to cruize off the Owers; the Car Jsfert Frigate, from the Downs, with a Fleet of Ships. Sailed the whole of the East India Fleet. Yesterday the launch belonging to the Letiiiithairt with fourteen men, went out of the Harbour in bidet to get on board, but could not make the ship, and was afterwards drove on shore on the Besneroge Ledge, and every soul perished. SHEERNESS, FEB. 20.—Arrived His Majesty': Sloop Autumn, Capt. jAcrrioN, from the Blockading Squadron off Boulogne. Arrived and came into Harbour to refit, the Ca` for Gun-brig, Lieut. PETERS. The Court. Martial assembled to try carom BROUGHTON resumed its sitting to-day. The fur ther evidence on the part of the Prosecution was gone into, and they have adjourned till to.rnorrow• DEAL, FE B. 20.—Fi Majesty's Ship CarysPr i sailed with the Convoy to the Westwatd„Avith th ° Dispatch and Plymouth Transports. Sailed the tattler, on a-ertiiz& ofFßoulotne. The Marchioness of Exeter, East India ship; cato down the River, and sailed fir Portsmouth. In the Downs—Monarch, Utrecht, Illustrious, g_, 315 0 ,11; able, huryalus, Fury, Perseus, Vincego, and .50" . Lighter. DISTRIBUTION OF PRIZE-MONEY. OP To the Caesar , Venerable, Pompee, Han n ib a l, Audac iM ,4 Superb, Spence r , Thames, and Calpc, and the hired ar"" sa n brig Louisa, a listribution for the capture of the 0 Antoine, and the devrutlion of th e R ea l C ar l o s, and Herminigildo will be made at the Crown and Cushion .pu lic-house, Winchester-street, London Wall, i n the follo W ing manner : r' lia On Tuesday the 28th instant, to commissioned and .% 4 r. rant officers and their attornies ; on Wednesday the 29th An and Thursday the Ist of March, to parties only ; and to p ar k, 0 ties and attornies on Wednesday and Thursday the 70 an Bth of March. 0 n I SHIPWRECKS—On Satu r d a y l as t, t h e Peggy -11 c Susan, from Inverne ss to L e i t h, was s unk n e- Wemys, and all on board perished. We are sorry to learn fr om Aberdeen, tha tin v e th fr e gale of last Saturday night, t h e B ux6r, of I°- , at ness, from London, with goods, w ent o n M y f Don Mouth, and all on board perished. r°, °. : o the bodies were found in the ship. The galci s , - i l t partly sayed,.bitt much damaged. The same n tv 'fl e , fe Scitro, of Aberdeen, was plat on shore a t C(3 140 near Stonehaven ; the Crew saved. The Yes° . l- since gone to pieces. On Saturday se'nnighr, about three l otclock.• aft N~ noon, the Sloop Peggy and Susan, JOHN SwA 5l :O master, last from findhorn, and bound to Leithci n g ballas t , and a few go o d s ,' w a s di scover ed c°" r if up the F r i t h to t h e eastwar d o f W emyss , ap Par e " t be water-logged, and in very great distress. A r io ui time it ,biew ext r emely h ar d, •with a treme B or st surf fro m S. E. so muc h so , t h at no b o at I\l o '' attempt to go off to their assistance• ,sb. withst an di ng t h e h eav y sea , a sma ll b oa t served to put off from the vessel, and make tof - „a the sh ore , w i t h e i g t. t 07 n i ne people on boa r ",' h eti the sloop, ab out ten minute:, after the bo4t le" r o• was observed g oin g d own by t h e lead, arid il l 0 0 diately di sap p eare d ; an d .t h e b o ar, which thu 3c ac h shore fl attere d t h erme l v e s might be able to r e ag a the land, was at ` this . time struck by a heavy se° t or upset, a n d e ver y one on hoard bu r i e d i n a V' e in grave. Th e crew of the vessel c ons i ste d Pf i' v e ro number ; but it is not known h ow man y ras se c fi ihe were on board. It is probable the whole °' l , o l l, persons on board ;he Sloop embarked in 'th ° , l ,• fl atY . and that the number ob serve d a b ove t he 0'" went crew were passengers. When the V e ssel a rra down, she was about a mile from the sh° r , e ' o ter• sunk in about twelve or fourteen fathoms u n i the The bodies of the master, m ate , an d- one " 0 of' crew were cast ashor.e, and after being put ifl . t be fins, were sent to their friends at Leith to terred. THE THEATR E.—The Mourning Brae vi t - e fot e vived last night at Covent Garden Theatre/ L ' A - t he a numerous Audience. Mrs. Si DPONS StOta i ir nitY , difficult charafter of Zara, with all that wg,, - feeling, and expressi o n f o r w hi c h s he is distin,g,n-enct ed. The alternations of wounded pride, rese l :," ( 100 love, and despair, were given with admit 3 ", , , o yrro crimination and energy. KEMELE made which is not a very prominent part, tbil u g . fhc Hero of the Piece, sufficiently important. Dressr.. of both . were superb and apprTr ia lllig MURRAY was a little too stormy in The Vl' ro o he probably thought that a Monarch, and on e o ise just returned from conquest, should make a ° r ev in the world. Mrs. H. St oDoNs would have " t I 0 • dered Almeria more interesting if s he had : nl2 OO studiously imitated the tones of her Mothe r- n ly' eet" The Earl of Mot RA has taken the house in v• - street, Edinburgh, belonging to Sir JAME' G , ;A te. Letters from chiF.rent parts of the Coui"Y a, l ' that the same anxiety prevails there•as in th e 'fb c tal, with resped to His Majesty's Healt h ' „ 0 /059 Mail Coaches are surrounded in most O f the I-1(00 by persons eager to see the Bulletins brought London. Sentence of death was yesterday passed LlP °n e $ l5 O Astlett at the Old Bailey. The Gordons w e i , r e s eri f brought up and informed, that they we re r° tO g • to the County Gaol at Oxford for trial at lb Assizes for that Cuunty. ~` ~ `w 4~,