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T HP CO.3IMISSIO N,E RS for VICTUAL LING Ibis N.41 7 Y - do Aereba git 4. ?I'o :ice, that on Monday next, the 251,4 instant, they will he ready to receive Tenders in writing.(seftled up); and treat for • One Thousand Sachs of KILN DRIED HOUSEHOLD FLOUR', (to be subjectto the usual warranty of Twelve illunthS ;) • To be deliverer! into Ars Majesty's Victualling Stores at Deptford, in the space of One Month, by e4ual weekly pro. p9rtiens ; and to be paid for by ilith,prryable, without in !erest, sixty ways after date. _ . _ The I.,.'amditions of the Contract may be seem at the Sere eary's ltln . regard will be had to any Tender in which the Price shall not be inserted in words at length, - : or that shall not Le delivered to the Board before.Onc o'•"•ce,iii - theraid Monday, Ihz. 25th instant ; nor aides., tz , son who'makci the Tender, or s ome Person on his behalf, attends to answer When called for. CONCERT for the BENEFIT of the WIDOW and FAMILY of the late A. ROMBERG. R. RIES, for the WIDOW and FAMILY IYYJO.. - of this late Distinguished Professlr, begs to present his most grateful Thanks to Madame Camporese 9 Madame Ronzi de Begnis, Miss M. Tree, Miss Goodall, Miss Mori, and Miss Stephens ; Signor de Begnis, Signor Cartoni, Mr. GOttiden, 'and M. Sapio ; to Sir Georee Smart, Mr. Mori, Mr, Lindley, Mr. Dragunetti, Mr.'Pozzi, Mr. Watts, Mr. Willman, Mr. Mackintosh,—and to all the Gentlemen-form ing the Orchestra at the above Concert on the I lth instant, fot their most Kind and Gratuitous Assistance.—Also to the Proprietors of the Royal Harmonic Institution, for their Li berality in having granted the use of the Romus free of all Expence. Mr. Ries is assured that it will afford much gra tification to all Parties concerned to learn, that he will be enabled to transmit to the Widow and Family of the late A. Romberg 3001., the Profits arising from thii Concert. TO I'HE SHIPPING INTEREST. THE TRAFALGAR CUTTER, Captain WALLER, of London, his just returned from a Voy age to the Coast of Africa. Previous to her departure, She bad - a Jib-sail made, in June last, of unbleached Canvas, which bad undergone BROWELL'S ANTI-MILDEW pro cess ; also a Main-sail made of the sabre Canvass, one cloth of which only had been prepared, the remainder being all un prepared. On her return the Jib-sail is found to he wholly free front Mildew, although it has been exposed to unusual vicissitudes .of •Wet and Dry sultry weather. The Main-sail has been kept constantly furled during the whole Voyage out ward and homeward, and is much Mildewed in every part, with the exception of that Cloth which has undergone the proetss, and Which is much brighter in colour, and has nut the least restice of Mildew. The Sails may be seen at MeSsts. PETER WALKER and Co's, Sail-Makers, 310, •Wapping. NTEXT TUESDAY the DRAWING of th e Present much-approreil STATE LOTTERY will emu tuence. The Scheme contains SEVENTY-FIVE CAPITAL PRIZES! FIVE PRIZES of £20,000 ! And NOT TWO BLANKS to a PRIZE. CARROLL, in requesting the attention of his Friends to the advantages of the Scheme, as. ahove enumerated. cannot help noticing, with peculiar satisfactibn, the soceess.which has always, distinguished Fl,tt linata Offices", No. 19, CORNHI.LL, and 2s, OXFORD STREET, where he Sold in the Last Lottery, 11,486 18,602 And in the late Lotteries, no less than FIVE ........Prizes of £30,000 FIVE &c. &e. £20,000; NEXT TUESDAY. j and J. -SIVEWRIGHT remind their 'LP • Friends and the public of the. near approach of the Present Popular Lottery, which will begin Drawing on TUESDAY NEXT, when the very FIRST PRIZE DRAWN will receive k20;000. This Pricithey hope .to have the plea sure of Selling at their Fortunate Offices, No. 37, Cornhill ; uladi urni and 38, Haymarket, London: and by their Agents. The present Scheme contains FIVE 01420,000, ALL MONEY! SEVENTY other Capitals ALL MONEY ! and NO r TWO !ILA \KS to a PRIZE! J. and J. SIVEWHIGHT, in their Last Contract, Sold in Shares, . 4,421, a Prize of £15,000 also on the Vast Day of the Last Contract, they Shared and Sold 18,051 • • £5,2C0 I d,740 £40(: 18.074 5OO 17,84.2 IMPERIAL PATENT CLOTH. • tIAMILIES going Abroad, and the Public, are rely respectfully informed the above CLOTH, the Peculiar advantage derived from the use of which in the East and West Indies, as well as in the colder Climates, render it "Eetllia! to Families and l,rdividuals going out, for Gentle• I "ens' wear : and general Family purposes,. effecting a saving •.,` nearly one-lialf is obtaed exclusively at the Patentee s 'nteign and British Line n Warehouse, No. 16, Citeapside, a nd no where else, in Cases of 30 and 60 Pisces each for Ex rintlation, an d by th e Pi ece o f it; t o 5V Y ar d s eac h ; w h ere e greatest Axsortment of Foreign and British Goods are kue r l4 Wholesale and Hetail.—Families coming from India, g • w farming partial or entire Establishments, deuce the A advantage in selecting Household Linens, Foreign an. s. British Muslins, Chintz Furnitures, coloured Muslins taMbrics, &c. with the utmost economy; and those taken I ," t he entire Piece-at the Wholesale Price.—lndia Shawls ta- Ken in L . flange. .114 - . N, GUINEAS RKWARD. To PRINTERS, ENGRAVERS, •&c.— whereas it has been discovered that certain Persons are in th e habit of Printing and Vending Labels; being copies' O r imitati ons o f those affixed to the bottles containing the „ !ENUINE BLACKING prepared by DAY and MARTIN ttt,:er:hy enabling unprincipled dealers to impose on their cos °ups a bad and injurious article. We hereby offer a reward tion " Guineas to any Person who shall give such informa as will l ea d to t h e conv i ct i on o f 'any, one guilty of these d• practic e s ' DAY AND MARTIN, . 1822. 97, High Holborn. • TmiDsoN's TooTH POWDER AND TINCTURE. R E above Discoveries, if attended to, will efrectually supercede the necessity of a Dentist ; they are 'tir e remedies for all Disorders of the month ; they not merely cleans e and beautify the Teeth, but preserve them from decay to th e latest period of life ; they are an antidote G mu- , oils, swelled face; and the tooth-ach ; they remove redn ess ; they the scurry from the gums, leaving them firm and - of a iteaPhY arreit the progress of Caries in the T!etb, refresh the mouth and sweeten the Breath; they both possess the same virtues, and mar he used alone, or together, hat the Tincture acts more speedily in last ening loose Teeth, ..ri!onortnhr.ianeghtherd curvy,&c ; an d it i s ;:nn infallible remedy for the nocent , a that i p i r : e i vt tits a relapse; they Me so perfectly in- Powder , may tak e th e cont.-tits of a Box of the ; 2 s Od, eac and e Tincture is an exce ll en t St om achic; price . h Also, I-lUDSCN'S TOOTH 1111USHE'l in sets of three, made on Sciontifie principles, price 3s. and in Ivory, 7s- 6d. The following Agents are appointtsl :—M r. Atkinson (5710 ' '° , le-, , at Agent) 44, Gerrar.b.strect, Soho-square ; Sather, bond ,C.stlroie,td:er, Oxford-st ree t ; G att ie , 57 ; f l 5, .Howell • and James, 9, Regent-street; Taite, ; Prom-229, Strand ; Barclay's, Fleet-market ; and most Medicine Vendeis and Perfumers. As mistakes har e arisen to the Public rcspreting the articles, the Public are respectfully informed, that M. Chimist, Haymarket, h as no . concern with them; tut - I any gennine without tbe Propricto'rs (Mine and Ac!dress 13 printed on the label. s a 41 1,:,1 a 31 is a 41 4i I7s per cwt. 'ss Its per qr. to 5s Sd to 43 461 133 2,2,3 to' 5s 4d to 4s 441 to 41 8a 1 15s Oct I 9s tid 1 Os uti 1 6s Od , 1 0; Oct 1 11, G/ I 10s ee to 2s 4d .. 103 00 Os Ott. :o Od Od. I to 0804 to 22d to•24d to isd io • 20id 27,2 o 34(1. :0 28d :o 20d o Isd o 184 d o 22d . . 84s ... 94s ... 98s ... 14s. ••• 7% HALL. Is Od. 16. ,ss 2 s. d a 7 .; a 5 a 7 a 4 ti a 80s a 108 s s a 83s s a 70s, a 24s - I a IM. 4ls 9d 43s (id lo 1131 to 1110. to 11 8s to 11 5s James tr,, Bed, Edward ;eorge'a Esq. of ,ghter of Court at at that B.A. of R.N. of .Ihter of e county Irke Rev. Berland, 1. of Bi- iurgeon. logg, ctioneer, -to Shz,4l Jarav fellow, 0 the Rev ;Colonel he Sul(- [ - qr. r qr. WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 1822. distresspervade the whole of that numerous class of his .Majesty's subjects whose property consists of land, or of stock, or materials, or goods, connected with,the.land, or who are in any wise depend-. ent for their' well-being on the prosperity of Agriculture ; that the Farther has no longerthe means to pay for the labour neces sary to due, cultivation ; .that the able labourer, from insuf f iciency of wages, is - compelled to.beeorne a pauper, and, under that de grading name, and in that state of uSelessnesi, has to hemain tained by money drawn from the farmer, though the latter is unable to employ him for their mutual benefit. Your Petitioners pretend not to enter into theoretical inqui ries as to the cauSes which have led to this state of things, but sorrowful experience enables them distinctly to state the practi cal result to be this :—that the wages or labour, the rates, the mere sustenance of the farmer's family, and the bare interest of his capital; now demand nearly the whole of the gross am punt of his produce, leaving nothing for profit, and 'little or nothing for rent ; and this result does, too, appear perfectly natural to Your Petitioners, when they consider that the price of their produce ' taking one article with a n o th er , i s now l ower t h an i t was in 1790, while the taxes e includiog trig illions paid for the collection, are norrAnoii than three times as great in amount as they were in that year. Your Petitioners, who trust that they are insusceptible of groundless alarm,. And who hope that your Honourable - House will not think them capable of deliberate exaggeration, assure your Honourable house that they think there must he, on an average of years, a still further decline in the price of the pro duce of the land ; that they can see many reasons for, and none against, this opinion ; and, if a further decline should take place with the present taxes remaining, your Petitioners can have no scruple to state, that it will be impossible fOr the main body of the farmers to pay any rent at all ; thus leaving merely the name of landlords to the owners of the land,who will then have been, by the hand of unsparing taxation, virtually despoil ed of their estates. " Your Petitioners forbear to describe their feelings at hear. ing their distresses, at the end of seven years and ten months duration, attributed, by some, to a sudden transition from war to peace ; and at hearing those distresses ascribed, by others, to superabundant crops, while, by the same persons, a superabun dant population. is at other times alleged to be the cause ; and while, on that bare allegation, large - sums raised on your Petitioners in taxes are expended to convey beyond the seas a part of these superabundant consumers of your Petitioners' superabundant crops ! Your Petitioners, turn. ing from these notions to that plain' common sense, and that daily experience, which tell them, that a very large proportion of all that the farmer pays in the shape of wages and rates, for implements of husbandry and for articles consumed in his family, is required by the several parties to pay the taxes on things of indispensable consumption, can be at no loss to discover, that excessive taxation is the immediate cause of all their embarrassment and distress; and they, therefore, pray generally, that your Honourable House will, with a degree of speed proportioned to the 'present necessity of the case, be pleased to make a very great abatement in the amount of that taxation, and, particularly, that you will repeal the taxes on malt, salt, soap, candles and leather. " But while your humble Petitioners well know this to be the only immediate remedy for the intolerable evils that oppress them, they cannot disguise frOm themselves' that these evils would never have been known, if 'the representation of the people in your Honourable House had been consonant -with the long-settled laws and constitution of their country; nor will they.disguise from your Honourable House that they have no hope of effectual present relief; or of security against future op pression, but in an efficient Reform in that Representation. " Your Petitioners, without dwelling in detail on the innumes rabic instances of wasteful expenditure sanctioned by Parliament, in, the Civil and Military Departments, cannot but know, that to the want of such Reform they owe the burden of establishments. wholly unnecessary, and of annual expenditure surpassing, in a season of profound peace, that of former seasons of actual and widely extended war. Well knowing these things, and anxious, not less for the safety of th e Th rone t h an for that of their own properties, liberties, and lives, the County of Suriey, while they humbly implore your Honourable House to make • a Constitu tional Reform, so absolutely necessary to secure the benefit of real representation, and .a vigilant controul over the public money, declare in the face of all England, that they will never, till that all-important object shall have been accomplished, cease to use all the lawful means in their power for the obtaining of such Reform." Mr. H. TO*ICSEND—In seconding this petition he should say but a few words, because he was convinced that distress pro duced reflection, and that reflection taught them, as it had him self, that there was no security for liberty, or fe, or property, without a Reform in the Commons House of Parliament. It was well known that man inherited froM his mother Eve the infirmities of human nature; and this being the case it was riot to be wondered at that the borough-mmgersi the sham repre sentatives Of the people ; suffered themselves .to be caught by ribbons, and by. baubles, and iri order to acquire them, or a Peerage, support the Minister of the day, however mischievous or unconstitutional might be his measures. Ha Minister wished to act rightly by the people, the consequence would be, that he Would lose a majority, as those Gentlemen would march to the opposite side. Before the war, every able bodied man could support his family, and ultimately became able to buy the cot tage which he inhabited, and this became a freehold; before that time every cottager brewed iri autumn beer enough to last him through the winter ; and he (Mr. T.), when out shooting often partook of this beverage; but he could assure the Meeting if he were now to go into the cottage, he should not be verywdling to partake of that which they, as had been said in another place, preferred—a dish of miserable, black, weak, Bohea.—( H ear, hear !)—H e must again repeat, that he considered the present miserable state of the working classes in this country to arise from Parliamentary corruption alone, and that that is the filth and dirtavhich defiles the silver spring from which England ought to drink, and whose yawning mouth would ultimately swallow up all the treasure of the realm. Lord KING came foi ward amidst loud acclamations. When they had last assembled in that place, it had been determined to reject a Petition praying for the Relief of Agriculturat Distress, because that petition had not been accompanied by one fur Reform ; and that, be thought, shewed tint their wish was for a perfect cure, and nut to patch or mead the old disorder. He at that time wished for unanimity ; hut he con fessed when he saw the overwhelming majority by which the former petition had, for the reason just stated, been rejected —when he looked around him and saw so respectable a meet ing, and looked at them with feelings different from those With which he was accustomed to look at what was called a full House, be could not say that he regretted the former rejection. .When lie saw a full meeting like the present, he knew that nothins.! would be agreed to but what was for the benefit the errantry; but when he saw a full House, he, felt that it indicated nothing but a determination to accede to the pressing orders of the Minister by an overpowering majority which he was satisfied no Minister could find in any County Meeting. They were met for the . porpose of considering two objects—Agricultural Distress and Parliamentary Reform— and be shoOld trouble them Very shortly upon the first ques tion, as he.coosidered the other by far the most important. They ail knew that distress was occasioned by excessive taxa tien, the fruits of a war, • during which the influence of the Crown had become so great as to be almost irresistible. !t -ined even door worse—it had taken away that common sym pathy a Inch ought to subsist between the representatives arid elie'constauent body. If Mr. Pill had, at the time that he was stirring tip the country to prosecute the war, told them. that the present distress would be the fruits of a glorious and successful 1", be (Lord K.) thought it would be impossible to persuade them to embark in such a lottery, and run the risk of the prize. He now came to the next question, and the meeting would allow him to state a few circumstances which contributed to 'make the Parliament what it was: He be lieved the first blow was the introdUction of 45 Scotch Mem bers—M(ll who were properly called " the .Swiss of the State"--,nien who receive. the patronage of Scotland in return for their services in the House of Commons. • He would state to the meeting a citcumstance ,which shewed in , what light these Members had been formerly viewed. Very shortly after the Union, the; Secretary of State having been asked why a certain measure had failed In the House of Commons, re plied, " The waters were out—the Scotch - . Members did•not arrive." This shewed the dependence: which that Minister had placed upon' men who, to say the truth, had never since deceived any Minister.—(Hear, bear,!)—Within the last cen tury a new trade had sprung up, he meant the sale of seats, which increased the influence of the Crown—which awed, and was awed in turn by tho'se men—or, to use Mr. Grastan's• expression, those " Proprietors of Parliament." (Hear, hear !)—lndeed they did treat Parliament as their property, and if reports be true, they made very hard bargains with their customers. He would mention one report to sheoi the opinion which these men held of the persons nominally send ing Representatives to that House. A Petition having been presented complaining of au. undue return for the Borough - . •. . . of Whitehaven; Sir J. LOwther said •he wished to see the names signed to the Petition; and on seeing some of which, exclaimed—" The town is mine, I will turn them out—the ground which produces their fund is mine—the air, they breathe•is • mine—l can drain their well's and choke them . with thirst—their fire is mine, for I possess all the coal-mines in the neighb o urhood." . Here was a man that made.out his claim to the four elements—air, earth, fire, and water, and it was not di ffi cult t o s ay - i n wh at es ti mat i on h e hel d the beings . who subsisted by them., This man,. it was said, sent orders to three of his Members to VA..: one way-s-and tit tliree others to vote another'—and 'this when he was co quetting with a Blue Ribbon, -which had been since be stowed upon his .family. Fifty years had elapsed since Lord Chatham had given his opinion ipso the subject of reform . , and nothing bad since occurred which rendered it the less necessary. The Irish Union had not rendered it unnecessary. The greater part ut the Irish Members were indifferent to every thing which concerned England or Scot: land—the cotrupt part of the English Members were ind ffe rent as to what concerned I.,:ngland, _lreland, or Scotland, and the Scotch Members of every thing but what affected, them- Selves, and their services were entirely directed to•that point. —(Hear, hear !)—The nation was now arrived''at-t at-that pitch that it bad a petitioning,: people and a confiding P,arliament. It was this division of spoil among theMecolters of the House of Commons that made them support taxation, and which made that House, tint the admiration of surrounding nations, but of sqrrounding Sovereigns, who.regretted their not hav ing so pliable an engine. It had been said that all classes,. commercial, manufacturing, and agricultural classes, had a virtual if not a. real representatimr. k-le, supposed he was addressing a body Warmers,- who were in the habit of selling their corn by sample. He would ask theist what would be thought of them if they were to take a sample different front the corn which they had for sale and sell by that? Would the buyer be satisfied by their saying that it was a virtual if not a real - sample ? Following up this he would say there were in Parliament sampleS of contractors, of jobbers, and of trading politicians, but these was one sample which was rarely to be met with there-, ss a sample of an honest man. —(Hear, hear !)—There was one class of men who; no &Mitt, were well represented in Parliament, and who contributed to the " collective wisdom," he meant the country Gentlemen. Much as he knew of Parliarreitt he•had never seen that body otherwise than bereft of their senses whenever it suited the Minister to terrify them to suspend, or. to get rid of some valuable privilege of the Constitution. It. was said that this class now saw the necessity of doing something, but lie would say that, although they might say so, they did not say so in the proper place ; they spoke their minds in the Minister's antichamber, instead of doing, so in the great Council of the nation. That class had, no doubt, the power to compel re duction if they pleased, but they - were placed in an embarassed situation, and it was this—if they wished to satisfy the people, they roust support a reduction •of taxation ; but if they sup ported a reductiost of taxation, where would be the money to pay themselves and their friends? Distressing as was this sis tuation, yet they hadaccommodating consciences ; if the Mi nisters did not agree to a reduction, they went down to the Heuse and voted in public for. that to which they had objected in ••••• private. It was said some , reductions . had been made. Why not have made these reductions three years, nay, six years . ago ? Great curiosity had • been I excited to know what plan the Ministers had . intended to bring forward ; but if a person were to judge from the` state mem of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, no great reduction of taxation could he expected. The plan now was before the public, and the savings which were proposed to he made were not out of the-establishment, butout of the public debt. It was true there was a reduction of a shilling a bushel upon malt, and it might be said that the Agriculturists had been • cutoff with a shilling. Although there was a great and a pressing demand on every side for a reduction, yet .Ministers strained and tortured themselves fieshow that taxation could not be the cause of the distress; and they said, that when, taxation.w as hi g h er , t h e pr i ce of corn was higher, and that cheapness was the cause of tiftdistress. But they forgot to state t hat taxation operated on the raising of the corn, and that the farmer would not regard the cheapness of corn, if he could raise it at a loW'eXpence. The plan of the Marquis of Londonderry was absurd s- and indeed the Noble Marquis himself admitted it. „The loan which he proposed ought; if any good were to he expected from a loan, never to he re turned. ',The Noble Marquis did. on this occasion, turn his back upon himself. On this occasion a considerable altera- • Lion had taken place in the tactics of that leader. On former occasions his languag e was, " Let us come t o i ssue , we w ill take the sense of the House ;" but his language (hiring the last week • Was, ‘4 Let us take time to consider,—dnn't agree - to the proposition of the Honourable Gentleman opposite,— wait until you hear mine ;" and then he only moved for pa pers, instead of taking, as usual, the sense or the House.— This conduct.was adopted, because the Noble Marquis did not think that he could depend upon his friends ; and be wished to ascertain how far they would go, and what was the least reduction which he must make. If it were the detertninatioti of the tax-muster to reduce•as little as possible, it was - the duty of the tax-payer to compel hint to reduce as touch as possible. He shoald'not he surprised if sonic peeple were to age. what good could be derived from a Reform in Parlia. merit ? He would say to them, " You will gain every thing, —you will pres er v e w h a t i s left,- -this is the tithe to make a start for your property; and the best way to secure that, is to restore that cunstitution which has been impaired during the last war." It was the pride of the British Constitution that it possesseil the power of renovating itself. The Constithtion was very sick at that moment ;- and he would wish them to bring that power which it possessed to the test. Let us (con tinued the Nettle Lord,) in the lang•tage of this petition, say that we never• Will desist until that object shall have beets ac complished.—(Cheers.) Lord . ELLENBOROUGH.When be had last had the honour of addressing that County Meeting, he had the lois fortime of having been in a small minority, hitt they heard him with fairness, and he trusted, if the opinions which he should , deliver today should be different to the opinions of the majority, that they would bear him with the same fair ness and justice.—(Hear, hear !)—He aid justice to the fair, honourable, and manly manner •iry which the mover of the petition had addressed them. The difference between them was not the object, but the mode of obtaining redress. They all agreed, that the distress of the Agrieurtnrist was great and unexampled. They all agreed in wishing for effectual and immediate relief,, and what all wished to know was ,the cause of the distress, in order to apply the remedy; hut his difference with the •Honourable Gentleman whit proposed this petition was this, he (Lord Ellenborough) differed with him as to the cause, and as to the mode of relief. The Honourable * Gentleman had told therif t h at taxation was the cause of the distress, and had also •spoked of the fluc tuation of the currency, and to those be had attributed a portion of distress, if an alteration in the currency were the cause of the IoW price of corn, why; he would ask the Noble Lord, had not manufactures fallen in the same propor tion. He was perfectly ready to. acknowledge that taxation, bad increased the price of commodities, but be meant to say this, that a removal of taxation would not • immediately pro duce immediate relief, or lessen the. prices. In 18!6, 18 millions of taxes had been taken off at once, and did prospe rity immediately return ? No, instead' of prosperity, it was well - known that at no period was distress so intolerable as during - the winter of 1816. He would suppose that six or• seven millions of taxes were taken off and applied as a posi• tire bounty on produte, no immediate relief wotild be afford ed. •It would not raise the price of a quarter of wheat more than five shillings. Indeed they themselves, from the manner in which they received the redaction of oar shilling per inishel on malt, negatived the doctrine that immediate relief could be afforded by any reduction-of taxes. The sum' remitted by tat- • ing•off that duty Was 400,0001. and , f the taking off that could make no sensible difference, the taking off four times that sum could not afford immediate and effectual relief. The Noble Lord (King) had said that nothing was more difficult to he found than the sample of an honest man its the House of !- Coninnins. It Was to him a Matter of surprise to hear the Noble Lord Pass•such a sweeping censure upon 160 of his • own friends who hail seats in that Louse; and after what the Noble Lord had said, with respect to the Scotch Members, be thought one of the resolutions would be for a dissolution of the Union which let in 45 such corrupt and unprincipled men; but be would find one person representing a Scotch borough exempt front the imputation of Joining Ministers; and who„ perhaps, that meeting world skew. was one of the most effec tive men in t hat• House—he meant Mr. Hume. The state of Scotland must have been much improved since the Union, when, instead of sending all to support Ministers, it sent such, teen as he'had jiitt named ' • and he would beg leave to remind the Noble Lord, that Mr. Fox, after having been defeated in Weitmihster, an English popular borough,_ was happy to find a retreat in a rotten Scotch borough,—(Disapproba- PRICE SEVENPENCP:' tion.)—HeLad said at first that all that seas desired WAS fectual immediate relief. Now the petition said this was en to be got by a Reform of the House of Commons. If that were true, he entreated the meeting to consider . to whatat distant day (even supp os i ng every thing to turn out.as , might wish) they postponed• what they termed immediate;,. relief. The Hon. Gentleman had told them that they wanted: a clear and plain representation, and that nothing less wouh: satisfy him. He had no doubt a great majority of t bent would agree to some general plan, but that great difference of op: nioti would exist as to the extent and nature of Reforia,, he had no doubt. Did they think the same diffla did not exist I:, other place:a among the friends d l / 4 f• Re - - form. Before relief could he exlecled from a - Reform Parliament, it Bill should be brought in, all parties d•t conOled, and supposing all this to he dune, and the bit. passed,- yet the law could not come , irate operatien atter a. general election, and consequently immediate re - lief could not be bbtained, and without immediate their distress must increase. .Even stipposing the Reform, di* be complete, were they sure that they would find Member, ii act according to the opinions of their Constituents ? If ,coo - stitUenta had been deceived already, might they not, be d‘,- ceived again ?—and he would beg leave to tell them, that th;: Reform which was now .most popular, was very differei,' flow that which Mr. Pitt advocated. They knew oii.ort.: - nary questions the, Minister had a majority of two to oaa How, we .would ask, could a moderate Reform destroy tin. majority ?—lt could nut ber done by ally Reform which woad., not place 230 innuaedilate patriots tit the room of omit friends of Government. The moderate. Reform asked for .held to be absurd. Suppose , a Reform on the'hasis Universal Suffrage—that Reform must be equal to the altera tion of the Constitution. They must be aware that Ireland. sent but 100, and Scotland forty-five Members to the House of-Cofnmons, and that these numbers were not in propor'..imi to the population of these count' less The number of Meat, tiers could not be increased, because the consequence wool:i be, that discussion would be impossible. Well, then, with out any .increase of Members, Ireland, to have a fair iproa portion according to her population, must be represent:it by 216, and Scotland by 68, and England consequently lose 139 Members. He entertained no prejudices against the Catholics .on account of their religion ;. and lie hay',.. and would always v o t e f or th e i r five admission to the be- . nefits of the Constitution, because lie thought the num . - ber of that religion whidbb at present would enter Parliament would be small; and that they would enter Parliament with feelings from which nu danger could be apprehended ; but with reference to the basis of equal representation, 200 Ca tholics wrist immediately come into Parliament. He was satisfied that the interests of the minority and majority in Parliament were identified with the interest of the agriculturist ;. and lie confidently looked forward to. a measure which would give speedy and effectual relief.— There was a country which had a Parliament on the freest basis, war for a short period, and the cheapest of ail possible Governments—that country was the United States of America-, and yet, without war, without taxation, without a fiuctuation'in currency, and with a Parliament on an equad basis, greater' distress existed in that country than ever existed here. After imploring the meeting to consider that it was a House of Commons, constituted as at present, that wrung from the Crown whatever liberties the subject et, joya-d, the - Noble Loud moved the following amendment :—• "1. Resolved, That we are, and long have been; in a state of rnexampled distress, immediately arising from the lo Ns , prices of Agricultural Produce, and the great expences at cultivation. "2. Resolt•ediThat we earnestly desire the H6use'of Cmr. InOns to adopt nieaiures fur otir certain, effectual, andininie- diztte relief. " 3. Resiilved, That such certain, effectual, and immes diate relief will nut, in our opinion, be derived from any of the - measures.hithertO prOposed by the King's Ministers. • . " 4. Resolved, That we implore the House of Commons to enforce every retrenchment in the Public Expenditure, and every. Reduction of 'Taxes which can be made consistently with good faith, with the efficiency of our necessur,y esta blishments, and with the general prosperity of the State. " 5. Resolved, That we hope the :llvnibers of the Home of Commons will, on this occaswo, by their sympathy with the people, and by the wisdom of their. measures, prove tlwm selves to be the real and worthy Representatives of the Na tion, arid not afford us cause to desire any changy in the ancient constitutive of the House of Comr»ons. " 6. •Resolved, That a Petition, founded upon the fort— going Resolutions, he addressed to the House of Commons. " 7. Resolved, That the following be the Petition:— " To the Hotiourablet he Con►n►uns of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in Parliament assembled. "The humble. Petition of the Freeholders, Copyholders, Occupiers, and inhabitants of the County of Surrey, the County Meeting assembled, Sheweth, "That your Petitioners are, and lung have been, in a state of • unexampled tlistress, immediately arising from t:::• low price of agricultural produce, and the great expense; et' cultivation. "'feat your Petitioners earnestly desire your Honourabit, House to adopt measures for their certain, effectual, and im mediate relief. " That in the opinion of your Petitioners, such certain effectual, and immediate relief, will nut be derived flow 'any of the measures hitherto proposed by the King's MinisterF. '• That your Petitioners implore your Honourable How.e to•enforce every retrenchment in the public expenditure, ar‘i every reduction of taxes which can he made consistently wilt good faith, with the efficiency of our necessary establisl.- .. ments, and with the general prosperity of the State. • "That your Petitioners hope, that the Members of Four. Honourable House will on this occasion, by their sympathy with the people, and the wisdom of their measures, pr..r..e . themselves to be the real and worthy Representatives of Nation, and not afford your Peti•ioners cause to desire any change in the ancient Constitution of the House of Commons. " And your Petitioners will ever pray, &c. • " B. Resolved, That this Petition be signed by the Flig!l Sheriff on behalf of the Meeting.'' Colonel GAITSKKLL sei•onderfthe amendment. Mr. DENxisoN opposed the amendment, and said the rip, form which he would advocate was shorter Parliaments—te,S expenses at elections—and the extension of suffrage to cippyholders and householders. . . . ionin , .!T then addressed the •Nfetting, ana contended the doctrine laid down by the Noble Lord (Ellenburough) absurd upon the taco of it; and he proceeded to argue; tb,t nothing less than a Reform in Parliament would produce Any. effectual remedy. Messrs. BENNET, MABERLY, and 1 - 1. SUMNER, severany ;;(;- dressedlhe Meeting. After.which the amendment was put and negatived. The Petition was then proposed and agreed to; and ot - iti,e question being put that it be presented hy the County Meth birs,' a verso!) named Leach, a cutler, proposed, as amendment, that Mr. Dennison alone should Fese;tt Petition; which was put and agreed tp. Thanks were then voted to the High Sherif f , rho...thea solved the ?dieting at six o'clock. NICHOLAS RIDLEY.--This eminent Divine ? the early part of his life, was a zealous Pap:si ; hut his having been afterwards patronised b Cranmer proves that he must have Changed sentiments, and favoured the Reformation. F4;'tel'i in his Abel Redivivus,' calls him anoth.4 Sabl ; yet his conversion could not have quite so instantaneous, for he maintained doctrine of Transubstantiation till the year 154 f: when a complete revolution in his opinions rau , -r. have taken place ; for, in his Disputation Wit h the Roman Catholic Divines, on the subi , J.f.t . cr Real Prestnice, he forced them to acknow'ked.z that, according to their doctrine, Christ„'in LAsT SCPPrit, 0111 Si have - heldhimseff in. /is and. afterwards 'eaten himself. En 1554. 110 v..- ever,-he reaped the fruits of his New FA H a -glorious -Manner, by maintaining it uAtil . his .latest breath, when , he was burnt alive, tozetil , ;r with Biihops Cranmer and Litimer, at Cm f,lrt:. SURREY REFORM MEETING. A Meeting was held on Monday at Epsom, pursuant to a Requisition to the High Sheriff, for the purpose of taking into consideration the pro priety of presenting a Petition for a Reform in the Commons House of Parliament. Among the Meeting; which was very respectably and nume rously attended, were observed Lords King, Ellenborough, and Ebrington ; Messrs. H. Sumner, D ennison, Calvert, U. Ben nett, V ebb, Weston, W. Cobbett, &t. At one o'clock, the High Sheriff, (J. Spicer, Esq.) on the motion of Lord Ellenborough, was called to the Chair. The Under Sheriff having read the Requisition, the Henn SHERIFF said, as the Meeting had done hint the honour to call him to preside at that meeting, he hoped they would also support hint in discharging the duties of his station, because without that support it would be utterly impossible for hint to preserye order, or to indulge any Gentleman in that freedom of debate to which every person who might address that Meeting was entitled._ He begged the Meeting to hear every one coolly and patiently, however discordant with their opinions might be those which might be offered.—(Hear; hear !)---Such a course of proceeding, lie would again repeat, could alone secure that respect a ith which the, netition would be heard in the House of Commons. He had thought it his duty to give fourteen days notice of this Meeting, and as every man in • the county had thereby the opportunity of attending it afforded him, such as absented themselves, and not he, must bear the blame on their own shoulders. Mr. LEECH.—It might be naturally supposed, from the part which he had taken at the last meeting, that he was not a little disappointed at the conduct of the High Shenff on that occasion but he begged leave now publicly to declare, that he was satisfied that the High Sheriff was guided by honourable principles, and that he discharged his duty on that occasion. according to the dictates of his conscience. —(Hear, hear !)—Having said thus much, he must apologise for having been the cause of this se cond meeting, because, if they had not conic forward on the last day to urge a question which, much to his satisfaction, a majo rity of the meeting seemed to support, it would not perhaps be necessary to call this meeting. He trusted that it was not neces sary for him to say many words about distress, because every occupier of land, every inhabitant felt the distress,, which was mainly attributable to immense taxation ; and unless that tax ation should be reduced, the respectability which he now saw about could not be maintained.—(Hear, hear !)—Mr. Weston had on a former day stated that he had reduced his rent. He hoped that reduction made the rents equal to what they had been in 1792, forainless rents were reduced to the standard of 1792 the farmer must be a loser, because corn was at present lower, and lat.our higher than at that period; and even admitting such a reduction to take place, he must, on observing that Poor Rates had increased with taxation, say, that without a. reduction of taxation, all reductions on the part of landlords would be ut terly inadequate ; and without such a reduction of taxation as, he feared, it would not be in their power to persuade Ministers to adopt. On looking to his books, lie saw that the average price of wheat, from 1787 to 1792, was 131.15. per load—oi barley, 26settl. per quarter—that the wages of a carter was Bs. per week ; and of a day labourer, Is. 2d. per day. He believed that, during that period, small beer had been allowed to workmen, for which allowing 2d. per day, the wages of a day labourer was butBs. per week. At that time 2s.fid. was paid fOr threshing a quartern of wheat, and Isaid. for threshing a quarter of b a rl e y. e-( What do you say to the tythes ?)—lle supposed the tythes had been re duced in the same proportion as the rents : but if they had not, he dared to say that the owners of the tythes would, as well as the owners of lands, see the necessity of. coming down to the standard of 1792.—(Hear, hear !)—He was almost afraid that the Marquis of Londonderry, if he h a d con cea l e d his plan, would be the cause of not having that meeting so well attended; but they had now heard that plan,_ and what was it ? That lie would take a shilling a bushel duty oft' malt, and thus ren der them comfortable and happy. His Lordship had said sonic. thing about lending the agricultural part 'of the population a sum of four millions. This was to have been a loan, but be fore the Noble Marquis sat down, he acknowledged there were so many difficulties in the way of the measure, that he did not think it practicable. If the meeting were satisfied with the plans of the Noble Lora, they might go quietly home ; but if they were not, he should trouble them a little longer. He had heard something in the House of 'Commons about public faith and public . credit. These things were created by Acts of Parliament. An Act had been passed, stops ping the payment of notes in gold at the Bank, and the conses quence was, that all things got dear, that the far greater part of contracts had been made according to thecurrency. Then after many years another Act of Parliament had been passed for the resumption of cash payments, without any regard whatever to those who had entered intocontracts according to the depreciated state of the currency; and the consequence was, that the farmer lost half of what he had engiged in his farming concerns. He would, then, ask what became of public faith and public credit? Why not preserve it with tbe farmer, who had entered into his contracts on the faith of an Act of Parliament ? Why not in clude all other classes in the distress which visited the farmer ? Why not make his cause common cause with all other classes, and let them sink or swim together! Why not reduce from the King to the peasant, and let every man have fair play ?—(Hear, hear!)—The •,inisters were, in fact, the persons who had pro posed the Bill, called Peel's Bill, for reducing the farmer's pro perty. Why not reduce .the Civil List in the same prtiportion? Why not reduce the incomes derived by pensioners out of the people's pockets in the same proportion? Some might think there ought to be no pensioners, but he would say those persons had lon„e enjoyed their pensions, but as men did not Wish to lose that which they had been taught, fOr years, to believe would be continued during their lives, he should not wish to deprive them of what might be considered their properties. lle only wished it to be reduced in proportion to the reduction in the property of all other classes. Having said thus much, he would now touch upon another part of the petition which he should have the ho nour to propose for their adoption, and which was the more im portant part, because, he waS satisfied, that if once Parliamentary Reform could be obtained, all other evils and abuses would be got rid of.—(Hear !) —lt was owing to 'a defective representa tion that almost all the difficulties with which the country had to struggle were to be attributed, and which would never be re moved, until a Reform in the Commons House of Parliament should have been effected. How could it be otherwise, when it was admitted that no honest man could become a Minister, as he must, while he continued a Minister, be subject to the Bo rough patrons, who were daily soliciting to plunder the pockets of the people to enrich themselves and their relations. How could a Minister withstand theie solicitations ! If he were, he would have no majority, and without a majority he could not carry on the business of the State with any advantage to the public. If there were a fair Representation of the People, the House of Commons would speak the sense of the people; but when there was not a fair representation of the people, the con sequence was, that the House spoke its own, and not the people's sentiments, and therefore took the money out of the people's pockets, thereby making the people poorer in proportion as they, the Borough patrons, became rich—(Hear, hear !)—He had applied a great portion of his life, to the consideration of this subject, and he was satisfied that nothing less than Reform could arrest the evil. 'He had formerly listened with great de light to Mr. Pitt, at public meetings, at which he had heard him say, that no honest man could be a Minister until after a Reform should haye taken place. He believed Mr. Pitt, and from that day until the present, he' never ceased to exert his humble abilitieS in this great works un der Mr. Fox," Sir George Saville, the Duke of Rich mond, and many others who had labeured to bring about this end. lie thought the time was now come when the people might, by perseverance, be able to send into that House men who would speak their sentiments. It had been said by some, that every Member went into that House unshackled, but he was of opinion, that if they were the Representatives of the peo pie, they ought to do their work.—(H ear, hear !) He would not detain them longer, and he would now thank them for the pa tience with which they. had heard him, and request them to comply with the High Sheriff's request, to give a patient hear ing to every person, because,- without hearing the opinions of others, it would be imposaible for any man to know .whether he was in the wrong, and he was most anxious to hear those opi nions, because, it lie should think himself wrong, he would be the last man in Ennhuid not to recant. The Sub-sheriff would now-tike the trouble of reading the Petition, which he submit ted for theif consideration. The Sub-sheriff having real the following petition— "'To the ,Honourable the Commons of the United Kingdom of `Great Britain and Ireland, in Parliament assembled. _ _ " The Petition of the Owners and Occupiers of Land in the Coullty of Surrey, assembled in County Meeting, this kith day of Febriary, " Most humbly sheweth, that the greatest embarrassment anti