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PERCEVAL observed, that i thirty-one out of thirty-two counties in Ireland the Grand Juries had raised money by assessments for the relief of the poor; but in Mayo the Grand Jury had always eluded doing so, and had even staggered the Judges with respect to the law on the subject Mr. STRICKLAND contended that they must adopt means of raising the Irish labourers up to the level of the English, or the latter would be overpowered by the influx of the former. As it had been said by Lord Holland seven veers ago, it was very easy to describe the sufferings of the poor, but very difficult to find a remedy for them. He was persuaded that a well defined and strictly limited system of poor laws would be beneficial to Ireland ; but that a system like that of England, and especially like that which existed in the northern districts of England, would be a curse to Ireland. If the Hon. Member for Aldbo rough divided the House, he should have his vote. Mr.. WYSE felt it necessary to suspend his opinion. (No. 12,409.) LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 20, 1832. (PRICE 7D.) Just ready, in 3 vols. post Bvo. THE HIGHLAND SMUGGLER. By J. B. FRASER, Esq. Author of " The Kuzzilbash," " The Persian Adven- Just published, price Is. 6d. A CHARGE Delivered to the CLERGY of the ARCHDEACONRY of NOTTINGHAM, IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. being worked by coal• ; but provided that, in order to prevent so great an annoyance as would be caused by the smoke on the line of road, wood, coke, or charcoal only should be used, under a penalty of The House resolved itself into a Committee on that clause, Mr. LITTLETON in the Chair, when the blank was ordered to be filled up with 5/. The House resumed, and the clause was added to the Bill. afflictions incident to humanity, generally speaking, were not there of so slight a character, or so transient in their duration, as to render such a provision wholly unnecessary. On the contrary, the depth of the distress, its universality, and continuation, were made an argument why no attempt should be made to in stitute a provision for the poor of Ireland. The emer gency was greater with regard to Ireland than with any other country in the world. Of this it was useless for him to remind the House, for it must be fresh in he recollection of every Hon. Member, what scenes were described during the time that the late awful dis tress prevailed there—when famine stalked through the country with baneful visage, the sure presage of pesti lence. Another curse to which Ireland was subject was absenteeism. The great landed proprietors were seldom on their own estates, and not one in ten of them could possibly know anything of what was the condition of their poor tenants. They not only did this injustice, hut took that trade from these poor people which their li►ing at home would give them. There was also that practise of clearing out, as it was called, by which thousands were driven from their homes, and having no provision of this sort to fly to, were obliged to sleep on moors and feed on wild herbs. It was well known that the poor laws of this country had been the means of saving it from turbulence and riots. Every Hon. Member would recollect that they were told by history that the state of this country before the introduction of tha Poor Laws was the same as what now prevailed in Ireland, and that hundreds of lives had been lost, both in the streets and on the scaffold. It was a great hardship on the poor of this country that there should be a provision for them here, and none in Ireland ; for it led a great portion of them who had been cleared out in that country, to expatriate themselves to this country, where they thought they might be better, and could nut be worse. The natural result was, tbat every manufacturing ani agricultural district in the country was filled with Irishmen, and the result was, that wherever they came, prices of labour fell, and reduced the natives of those places to a state equally bad as themselves. The Poor Laws once established in Ireland would not be a greater boon to that country than to this. The same objections now made to their establishment in Ireland, had been made before they were introduced into this country ; but history proved how erroneous they were. In conclusion the Hon. Member conjured the House to adopt his motion, for the sake of tranquillity and preserva tion of Ireland. Mr. HUNT seconded the motion. HOUSE OF LORDS, Juxa 19. turer," &c. Henry Colburn and Richard Bentley, New Burlington atreet. By GEORGE WILKINS, D.D. At his Primary Visitation in May, 1832. London : John Turrill, office of the " British Maga zine," 250, Regent-street. Mr. BERNAL and others from the Commons brought up some private Bills. The Irish and Scotch Qualification Peer Bill was read a third time and passed. Lord WHARNCLIFFE reported progress from the General Metropolitan Cemetery Bill. The while House resolved itself into a Committee on the Consolidated Fund Bill, which passed through the Committee without opposition. The House received the report upon the King's County Bill. Just ready, in 2 vols. demy Bvo. EXCURSIONS IN INDIA, Comprising a WALK over the HIMALAYA AIOUNTAINS to the SOURCES of the JUMNA and the GANGES. By Captain THOMAS SKINNER, 31st Regiment. r \ o ‘re a i n n d of h vast,re w s e h a e rl s deserts tou a e , v Rough quarries, It was my hint to speak." Henry Colburn and Richard Bentley, New Burlington street. Mr. HUME said that at least the Hon. Member would have shown that the system worked well in England ; that it was desirable to transfer it to Ireland ; but this he had not done, and therefore his vote (Mr. Hume's) must be against the motion. Elegant and Commodious Residence, with Offices, Coach houses, Stables, Lofts, &c., Upper Harley-street. TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, BY MR. REID, The fourth rider provided that nothing in the Act should extend so as to abridge, alter, or destroy any of the rights and privileges of the Mayor and Corporation of London. - Mr. SHEIL agreed with the Hon. Member for Tippe rary that it would be premature to discuss a system of poor laws until part of the church property was restored to one of its original uses—the support of the poor. Mr. S. RICE should agree with those who thotight that this question ought to be postponed, but should he equally ready to vote for giving a direct negative to it. He said this, because the proposition of the Hon. Member was one which would create a demand for relief beyond the means that could be found for supplying it. He should have greater unwillingness to take this relief out of the church property than out of a general assessment levied upon the people at large, for in the latter case, he should kave all the security that could be afforded by the opera tion of the principle of self-interest; since, if the people were to tax themselves to make up the sum requited for this relief, they would of course take all the psis they could to guard against the abuse of ttheir liberality. II admitted that the evils of abseneeism were consi derable ; but at the same time he must express. his doubt whether those evils could be properly' cured by the means of legislative enactments. Fee' himself, he should object to the introduction of poor laws into Ireland upon principle. It had been showa in the evidence laid before the Committee that sat to inquire into the state and operation of the poor laws in Scotland, that just in proportion as the principle of the poor laws was introduced into operation in Scotland, is that pro-. portion was the condition of the people deteriorated.. That remark, too, applied with equal force to the counties in the northernmost part of England. There was one. point in which the peasantry of Ireland would bear a comparison with the peasantry of England, or of any other country in the world, and that was, in the sanctitv of the marriage tie, and iu the affection for their childre.m. He believed that one of the evils consequent on the inane- •- duction of a system of poor laws would be to destroy the sanctity of that tie, and to render a man comparatively indifferent to his children. Such, at least, had been the effect produced by the compulsory marriages which took place under the poor laws in this country. lie called then, on the Hon. Member, before he introduced the English system of poor laws into Ireland, to withdraw from them the dross and alloy with which their adminia tration was mixed up in this country. When that was. done, the experiment might be tried in Ireland; but luta then, he (Mr. S. Rice) should object to it. Mr. O'CONNELL would oppose the Hon. Member's proposition. He had formerly stated it to be his opinion, that a main source of the wretched condition of the poor of Ireland was a total absence of a legislative provision for their wants ; it was now his equally conscientious. sorini'on that poor laws would but aggravate that wretched aam it, tion.—(Hear, from Mr. S. Rice.) He did not mean to impute unworthy motives to the lion. Member for Ahltmst rough for bringing forward the present motion ; bat he would Fay, that no philanthropy was more easy and int., posing than that which vented itself in taxing other peo ple. He believed the Hon. Member's proposition to 1 „ impracticable—to be mischievous, and h os til e to t h e cilhs of as Ireland, r e they laod would ha e ) y teal t h t to t perpetuate est raoge_ , interests of Ireland, and the most c h er i s h e d prine:ipie,b es of revealed religion. In the fi rs t pl ace , poor lay:, were ob _ j t e h c e t i w o n o a r bs worst e, of the inas evils ment between its rich and poor inhabitant s so much to be lamented. At present, the poor of Ireland hated the rich because they neglected their duty towards them —because they refused to aid them in tbeiv necessities, after they had ground theta to the dust by oppression and misgovernment; but if they compelled the rich to do their duty towards their poorer countrymen, and to contribute, whether in clined or not, towards their relief, when in want or sickness, the result must be, that the rich would hate the poor, and that the estrangement between them, which he had just lamented, would be, perhaps, irre mediably widened.—(Hear, hear, from Mr. S. Rice.) In the next place, the poor laws tended to contract the channel of that voluntary social charity which was the only beneficial source of poor relief, and which was the key-atone of Christianity. They, therefore, were neither more nor less than a prevalent system of infidelity, and as such to be scouted by every man, like himself, deeply im pressed with the truths of revelation. It was true that voluntary charity had been proved in Ireland to be wholly inadequate to the pressing wants of its numerous poor. That, owing to the wretched condition of the poor, the expectation of life was much less there than in this coun try, and its mortality much higher ; and it was true, that. practical charity towards the poor was the constant theas, of the divine founder of the Christian religion ; but ite, however, held it better that the poor should depend o n th e voluntary laenevolence and religious charity of the rich, than demand as a right to be supported at ;:ne expense of others. He denied that any pour man as such, had a right to be relieved at the expense of others—though lie could not deny that labour was the sol es source of all wealth, and that the labourer therefore should not be permiteal to pe. rish amid the results 41t his own industry. He did not mean to asearS that if property was willed to the poor that it should not be rigidly applied to the purpose of the owner; he only meant to deny the abstract right of the poor to relief at the expense of his more prosperous fellow aubjects, Mr. SANDFORD was understood to be also opposed to the motion. ANATOMY BILL. Son-in-Law and Successor to the late Mr. JOHN ROBINS, (Of Warwick House, Regent-street,) At Garraway's Coffee-houoe, 'Change Alley, Cornhill, on THoßsnair, the 26th of July, 1832, at twelve, AVERY VALUABLE LEASEHOLD ESTATE. held for a long term of years, at an extremely moderate Ground Rent, comprising A SPACIOUS FAMILY RESIDENCE, _ Mr. LITTLETON thought the Hon. Alderman (Mr. Alderman Wood) should have taken especial care of the dignity of the Lord Mayor ; in this instance he was styled the Mayor, and not the Lord Mayor..---(A laugh.) Mr. Alderman WOOD said, in all Charters he was de signated the Mayor of London, and not the Lord Mayor. Several verbal amendments having been made, the seve ral clauses were ordered to be added to the Bill, which was then passed. Sir R. BATESON presented petitions from congrega tions connected with the Synod of Ulster, in Down, An trim, Dromore, and Londonderry, against the Government plan of education in Ireland. Mr. PRINGLE, in supporting the prayer of the peti tions, observed that the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland lamented that it should have gone abroad, from a petition that was presented some time since, that they were favourable to the Government plan of education in Ireland. The fact was, they had been deceived by the statement of the Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland. Captain GORDON said that the statement which be had ventured to make on the presentation of the petition, had been now fully borne out. Mr. KENNEDY thought Hon. Members would have exercised a much sounder discretion if they had reserved their observations till the Right lion. Secretary for Ire land had been present. Mr. HUME expressed his surprise at the statement that the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland had been deceived, and considered it the height of presump tion in any Hon. Member to make such a statement, no proof having been brought forward that they were so. Lord KILLEEN thought that the Government plan of education in Ireland would he attended with the best effect. Lord MINTO moved the second reading of the Anatomy Bill. In doing so, his Lordship spoke in so very low a tone of voice, that notwithstanding there were only few Members present, it was almost impossible to hear a single sentence be uttered. He desired to draw their Lordships' attention to the present state of the law as it regarded anatomy. Nobody could be legally dissected except the body of a murderer. From this circumstance the Schools of Anatomy were deprived of the most important sources of information, and this itself was an ample cause why there should be an alteration made in the law. The supply to the dissecting rooms at present in London was very limited indeed, and almost the whole was procured by the robbery of graves, and by the breaking open of houses and carrying off the dead bodies before they could be interred. It had even been supposed that the high prices which had been given for the dead bodies have for a long time past led to the commission of the most dreadful crimes. Whether the present mea sure was exactly that which ought to be passed, be would not undertake to say, but undoubtedly something upon the principle of this Bill ought to be carried into a law ; and whenever the details came before the Committee it would be for tbeir Lordships to consider what would be the best mode of supplying the schools, and of affording the students of this metropolis the necessary supply of dead bodies at the cheapest possible rate. In every part of Europe where dissection was carried on, except in England, where there was dissection to a very great extent, the legality of dissection was recog nised for the sake of science. There could be no doubt that it ought to be rendered legal here also, and, for his part, he wished to have the price of bodies to students so reduced, as to remove any inducement on that ground to theft, or to an abuse of the law. Substantially built, the interior decoration of the pa pering the walls and painting to he finished agreeably to the taste of a purchaser ; desirably situate No. 5 . 5, UPPER HARLEY-STREET. The Mansion is adapted for the accommodation of a Family of Rank, and contains, on the upper floors, six airy bed-chambers, with dressing-rooms, water-closets, &c. ; on the principal floor, an elegant drawing-room in front, highly enriched ceiling and cornice, sculptured statuary marble chimney-piece, windows to the floor, opening to a balcony. A spacious landing. A bowed drawing-room at the back; sculptured statuary marble chimney-piece ; windows to the floor, opening.to a vi randa and balcony, folding doors, to a boudoir or lady's morning room. Water closet. On the ground fluor, a handsome entrance hill, inner hall, elegant light principal staircase, with handsome iron balustre and mahogany handrail ; a well-proportioned dining parlour, statuary marble chimney-piece, recess for sideboard, and side en trance from back staircase ; bowed library, and windows opening to a lead-flat, folding doors, communicating with a gentleman's morning room, water closet attached ; a se condary staircase to the upper floor. The basement com prises convenient domestic offices, with wine -cellars, &c., detached kitchen, fitted up with dresser and shelves, scul lery, with sink, and water laid on, an excellent pump of fine spring water; open area, larders, &c., laundry, wash house, capital wine -cellar, inner cellar and coal vault ; a capital double coach-house, with standing for three car riages, excellent seven-stall stables, coachman's room and lofts over. NEW SYSTEM OF CHEMISTRY. Just publishes', in Two very large and closely printed volumes, Bvo. with Wood-cuts, price 2/. 2s. A SYSTEM of INORGANIC CHEMISTRY. By THOMAS THOMSON, M.D. Regius Professor of Chemistry in the University of Glasgow, F.R.S. &c. Sze. Printed for Baldwin and Cradock, London, and Wm. Blackwood Edinburgh. Also, recently published, by the same Author, Iu Bvo. price 16s. boards, I. An OUTLINE of the SCIENCES of HEAT and EL ECTRICITY. (Being Volume I. of the General System of Chemistry, by Dr. THOMSON.) 2. An ATTEMPT to ESTABLISH the FIRST PRINCIPLES of CHEMISTRY by EXPERIMENT. San , In 2 vols. Bvo. price 11. 10s. in hoards. Mr. Alderman WOOD did not rise for the purpose of prolonging the discussion upon the petitions, but for the purpose of requesting his Hon. Friend, the Member for Middlesex, to postpone the presentation of his petition re lative to the creditors of Marsh, Fauntleroy, and Co., an Hon. Colleague of his (Mr. Alderman Wood) not being able to attend. Lord MALMESBURY said that he was sorry to differ with his Noble Relative upon this important subject. He wished to encourage science, but the feelings of English men prevented there being a supply of subjects furnished in such abundance as they were in foreign countries. He thought the Bill would expose persons taken insensible to a hospital to be anatomized even contrary to their wishes, for the Bill required dissent to be expressed to it, and not assent to be given. He did not see much security in the inspectors ; such inspectors ought not to be medical men, for it is only medical men who could be concerned in what required the check of inspectors. He doubted whether the Act would prevent burking. The Bill once legalizing the sale of dead bodies, would establish an open mart for their sale. He thought there ought to be persons superintending the sepulture of the remains of subjects, in order to insure its taking place. He much feared the Bill would tend to brutalize the people. With respect to the bodies of murderers being given up to dissection, he thought it no additional punishment to the criminal, but only to his relatives, who were often respect able people. He should not oppose the second reading, in hopes that when the Bill got into Committee some material amendments might he made in it. The Earl of ROSEBERY supported the Bill, and said that all the evidence upon the subject showed that there was a great deficiency of subjects in all the medical schools of the kingdom, but more especially in that of Edinburgh, which had hitherto been thought the greatest in the world. The SPEAKER then put the question, that the House agree to the following resolution:—" That it is expedient to establish a permanent provision for the suffering and destitute poor of Ireland, by a levy upon all the real pro perty of that part of the United Kingdom, and more particularly upon that of the absentees." To be viewed by tickets only. Particulars may be bad of Messrs. White, Blake, and Houseman, Solicitors, Essex street, Strand ; Messrs. Bridges and Ma►on, Solicitors, Red Lion-square ; Messrs. Boodle, Lower Brook-street, Grosvenor-square ; at Garraway's ; and of Mr. Reid, No. 170, Regent-street, of whom tickets for viewing may be obtained. M'CULLOCH'S COMMERCIAL DICTIONARY. Just published, in a closely-printed Svo. Volume of 1,143 Pages, with large Maps, 21. 10s. boards, with parch ment back, A DICTIONARY, PRACTICAL, THE ORETICAL, and HISTORICAL, of COM MERCE and COMMERCIAL NAVIGATION. By J. R. M'CULLOCH Esq. It has b een the wish of the Author , and Publishers of this Work, that it should be as extensively useful as pos sible. If they b e not deceived in their expectations, it may be advantageously employed, as a sort ofvade-mecum, by merchants, traders, ship_owners, and ship-masters, is conducting the details of their respe.tive businesses. It is hoped, however, that this object has been attained without omitting the consideration of any topic, incident to the subject, that seemed calculated to make the book generally serviceable, and to recommend it to the attention of all Mr. HUME with great unwillingness consented to postpone the presentation of the petition to Thursday, upwards of ten days having elapsed since he sent a copy of the petition to the Governor and Company of the Bank. Sir R. BATESON then presented a petition from the members of the Protestant Conservative Society, in Dub lin, against the Bill introduced by the Right Hon. Se cretary for Ir e l an d for suppressing processions. Among the petitioners were many gentlemen of the first rank, talent, character and property in Ireland, and they stated that they bad heard of processions of a most extensive character in England, at which banners with revolutionary inscriptions were exhibited in the vi cinity of the Sovereign's Palace, and that Government had introduced no Bill for their suppression. They had heard also that some of his Majesty's Ministers had cor responded with the bodies from which those processions emanated; they had no objection to the suppression of all processions, but it appeared that it was intended only to put down Protestant—those processions which usually took place in the month of July, and that it was not in tended to embrace any other processions. So recently as last year processions had been held in Dublin which ema nated from meetings sanctioned by the Government, and attended by two of his Majesty's Sergeants-at-law. Even at this period large masses of people were assembling in Ireland, whose professed object was to destroy church property, but whose real object is to destroy every description of property, and yet Government had not adopted any means of prevention. The petitioners concluded by deploring the forbearance of the Government towards the disaffected part of the population, and prayed that the Bill might not pass into a law. He (Sir Robert Bateson) never was an Orangeman, and he had always wished that all processions and all party animosity should subside ; but he was bound to state, that at the present moment the Orange men of Ireland are a most numerous and respectable body, and that within the last six months tens of thousands bad joined them, not from a wish to oppose the Government, but from the necessity of protecting their lives and property. He knew that a system of exclusive dealing bad been re commended by the leading demagogues of the day, and every body knew that a recommendation from such quarters was law; for those demagogues not only ruled, but ruled with a rod of iron. What objection, then, could there be to allow the processions of persons on the 12th instant, when the object was merely to go to church, bear a sermon, and then go home ? He implored the Government not to pass the Bill too hastily—at all events to postpone it until after the 12th of July—at all events it was now too late for this year, because the preparations for the 12th of July were already made—(Hear, bear)—those public processions which their forefathers had been accustomed to. Mr. STANLEY deprecated such premature discus. sion, and implored Honourable Gentlemen to wait until the Bit came regularly before the House. As to the procession merely going to church to hear a sermon, the Bill would not interfere with it ; and would only interfere with processions growing out of religious party-feeling ; but what reason was there for processions going to church with arms, banners, and music?—(Hear.) Those tended to create a disturbance, and should lie put down. The Hon. Baronet had fur nished him with a sufficient reason to press the Bill hastily through the House (which he certainly should do) as it appeared that preparations were already making for pro cessions on the 12th of July next. Mr. H. GRATTAN hoped the Bill would be imme diately proceeded with. The petition was read, and ordered to be printed. POOR LAWS IN IRELAND. Mr. STANLEY then rose. He felt regret as well as surprise that the Hon. Member bad, within the last few days, altered his notice, and that he had now brought for ward a resolution more vague than the one he introduced last Session, instead of his Bill. He had paid the greatest attention to the speech of the Hon. Member, but confessed his utter inability to collect from it the nature of the plan which the Hon. Member proposed for the adoption of the House. He wished to know what was the practical question which the Hon. Gentleman meant to bring for ward. Did the Hon. Gentleman mean to assert, that there were no charitable institutions in Ireland to which the Legislature bad not paid any attention ? Did the Hon. Gentleman not recollect the Lunatic Asylum, the Fever Hospital, the County Infirmaries, and other institu tions of a similar description? Did the Hon. Genthiain mean to say that those institutions should be more effec tually assisted ? Except for the evils of blindness and deaf ness, and dumbness, there were no physical evils for the mitigation of which in Ireland legislative means were not afforded. Did the Hon. Gentleman mean that the House should blindfold, and without investigation, pledge itself to a resolution that it would afford the means of supporting all persons in Ireland, who were unable by their labour to support themselves and their families ? Was be prepared to bring forward such a proposition as that with all the immediate disadvantages which surrounded it ? Was it not desirable, at least, to postpone such a pledge until it could be shown that the proposed system was free from the difficulties which beset that in England ? The Hon. Gentleman shrunk from the difficulties of the undertaking. He gave notice of his intention to bring in a Bill, and so his motion stood on the order-book ; but all this prepara tion ended in a resolution, that it was expedient to pro vide for the destitute poor of Ireland. For the consi deration of such a proposition his Majesty's Government had stated that they were not immediately prepared ; for that their attention had bean monopolized by temporary matters of such overwhelming importance, that they had been unable to devote to it the consideration which it re quired. At least, therefore, the Honourable Gentle man, and those who thought with him, should have ascertained the practicability of some positive mea sure before they brought the question before the House. And yet, on the eve of a dissolution, the Hon. Gentleman wished to pledge a future Parliament to an abstract prin ciple so indefinite, that the Hen. Gentleman would not himself venture to describe it ! On that ground alone, and without going into any other, he (Mr. Stanley) was prepared to meet the Hon. Gentleman's proposition, not with a negative, but with the previous question. In his opinion, the present time was not the time, nor were the present circumstances the circumstances in which the subject could he advantageously entertained. Some ex perience ought to be obtained with respect to any system; for if unwisely introduced it would prove, not a benefit, but an evil. In the present state of the House, in the present state of the Session, in the present state of the Parliament, it was impossible to legislate satisfactorily on so important a subject. There was one part of the Hon. Gentleman's resolution to which he would rather give a direct negative than meet it with the previous question ; for the Hon. Gentleman had complicated the question of the Poor Laws in Ireland with the question of absen teeism. He willingly allowed that a great moral injury resulted from the absenteeism of great landed proprietors in any country. And when to that consideration was added great drain of rents, it must be admitted that ab senteeism had a great effect on the physical comforts, as well as on the moral condition of the community. But it was a very difficult question to know bow to deal with. Were they, by a system of poor laws, to press on the estates of absentees? But how was absenteeism itself to be defined ? Did it consist in an absentee from Ireland of nine months, of six months, of three months, of two months? Was an absence of silt months in two years, or of three months in two successive years to be con sidered equal to absenteeism ? What, then, was absen teeism ? Several Members of schedule A, who voted, in every stage, against the Reform Bill, are anxious now to have it understood that they did so rather in obedience to the commands of their patrons than from any wish of their own. But the electors, to whom they may present themselves, will be apt, we imagine, to take the deed for the will. The parish of Lambeth is forming a Commit tee to distribute meat, bread, &c. to the necessitous poor in the parish, instead of having an illumination to celebrate the passing of the Reform Bill. There are many who would prefer appropriating the money expended in illumi nations to purchasing food for the poor and their families. —Morning Herald. --- London : Longman, Rees, Orine, Brown, Green, and Co. 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INCORRODIBLE MI NERAL and NATURAL TEETH, from one to a COM PLETE Set, which are INCAPABLE of DISCO LOURATION or CORROSION, and fixed without the incumbranee of Wires or any other LIGAI URES, and answer every PURPOSE of ARTICULATION and MAST ICATION.—Charges as in Paris. All Operations performed on the Teeth. EARLY AND PROSPEROUS HERRING FISH ING.—The fishing around Thurso was carried on last last week with considerable success. The boats were out every night—all of them caught some, and several had from eight to ten craw each. " There is the best ap pearance this season," says our correspondent, " which WAS ever rememered upon the coast—and the quality is first-rate. On the latter point we feel qualified to speak ; for the gentlemen of Thurso, who are interested in the herring fishing, with a patriotism and propriety which cannot be too highly commended, sent a firkin of the her rings to Earl GREY, and another to the editor of the Inver ness Courier.—lnverness Courier. Lord WYNFORD said that his objections rose so strongly against the principle of the Bill that he should divide against the Bill if he stood alone.— (Hear.) He would rather have the bodies of the people than their minds contaminated by the effects of this Bill. The sentence of dissection oa a criminal he bad seen produce the greabest effect. He had conversed with Colonel Despard whilst he was under sentence of death for high treason, and although fearless of death itself, he had manifested the greatest horror at dissec tion.—(Hear.) The number of criminals executed by the sentence of the law would produce a sufficient supply, and if that were not sufficient, he would take the bodies of convicts who died whilst in prison, and if that were not sufficient, persons who committed suicide. He concluded by moving that the word " now " be left out, for the purpose of inserting " this day six months." The Earl of HAREWOOD said a good deal of ingenu ity had been displayed in drawing up this Bill, for the gross indecorum in the former Bill had been in a great measure avoided. But still it came at last to much the some thing, and he could not consent that the bodies of persons who bad been guilty of no offence to the commu nity should be given up for dissection. He could not vote for having this done by law, and he thought it best to say no more about it. LElTH.—During the violent thunder storm of Wednesday evening, the lightning struck the topmast of one of the Aberdeen smacks, at present in the Wet Dock, and shivered it in pieces. The fluid then came down the mast, scorching in its way the topsail, and fu.ing the hoops and bolts of the mast. Several of the men were in the forecastle at the time, and escaped as if by a miracle, for the lightning overturned one or two, and struck one man on the breast, but not seriously. The momentary sensation he describes as if a heavy weight had fallen upon him. The foresail was torn in several places, and the melted iron was gathered on the deck in small drops. No further accident happened to the vessel, nor to any other, although the dock at times was in a sheet of flame, and several balls of fire were seen entering the water.— Scotsman. STIRLING REE'S CUBEBS, WITH SARSA PARILLA, &c. T HE most safe, certain, and speedy remed y ever discov ere d f or the Cure of Gonorrhoea, Gleets , Strictures, Semi na l W eakness, Pains of the Loins, Kidneys, Irritation of th e Bl a dd er and Urethra, Gravel,,, and other Disorders of the U r i nary P assages, frequently performing a cure in the short space of three or four days. It contains all the efficacious parts of the Cubeb, combined with the Salt of Sarsaparilla, and other choice ingredients, which makes it valuable for the removal of Secondary Symptoms, Pains of the Bones, and all Diseases arising from an impure state of the fluids. In cases of Debility, a perseverance in its use has been found to give strength and increase of health t o th e w h o l e Sy s t em . Th e mos t delicate female may take it with perfect safety. Prepared only by J. W. Stirling, Chemist, 86, White chapel, from whom it can be sent to any part of the world (upon enclosing the amount), in bottles, at 4s. 6d., 10s. and 20e. Caution...4e there is a spurious imitation, be sure " J. W. Stirling" is written on the stamp. Agents--Sanger, 150, Oxford-street; Prout, 226, strand ; Barclay, Farringdontetrest ; Gilbert and Co., 2 7, Newcastle -street, Strand ; Harvey, 68, Great Sur rey -road, Blackfriars ; Johnstone, 68, Cornhill ; Nix, Royal Exchange ; Heudebourk, 326, Middle-row, Hol born ; Norton and Turner, 309, High Holborn ; Wil mot, Borough; Souther, Canterhat y ; Tandy and Bailey, Wo 6 erhampton ; King, Market place, Bath ; Bulkley, S taveley, Derbyshire ; and all the principal Medicine p onders in Town and Country. KELSO REFORM PROCESSION AND DIN NER.-The Convenery and other Reformers in the town of Kelso, having resolved to celebrate the passing of the Reform Bill, (England) by a grand procession and public dinner—yesterday was the day fixed upon for holding the festival. A triumphal arch composed of flowers and ever greens, surmounted with a crown, was erected at the en trance of the Crows Keys Hotel, where the dinner was to take place--and the letters E. G. were also displayed in front of the Inn, while the Union Flag floated from the summit of the Abbey. Soon after two o'clock the several Societies and those who were to join in the procession, began to assemble in the Knowes, accompanied by bands of music, and a variety of flags and banners, bearing suit able mottoes and devices, together with the insignia be longing to the different Societies present. At four o'clock a party of nearly 250 sat down to dinner in the C ross Keys Hotel, old Convener Rossos in the chair, and Mr. JOHN 111AsoN, distiller, acting as a croupier.—Kelso The LORD CHANCELLOR felt a great deal of diffi culty in dealing with the question, for he felt that it was very difficult to discuss it without hutting the feelings and prejudices of many. But he hoped that what had been stated by one Noble Judge was not law, otherwise the bare opening of a body with a view to ascertain the cause of Beath would be punishable. It had been decided that the bare having in possession a body that bad been disin terred was punishable. But the consequences of this state of the law was, that while a surgeon was punishable for want of due skill in his profession, he was also punish able for resorting to the only means by which competent skill could be acquired ; and a very eminent surgeon had declared, that unless something were done, the profession might become a curse instead of a blessing. The same surgeon (Sir Motley Cooper) had declaied that the con sequence of the system was not the preservation of dead bodies, but an increase of the price, and that there were no bodies of high or low, that he might not have for a good price if he chose. The same surgeon bad stated, that the body-snatchers were most abandoned and desperate wretches ; and then consider the effects of high price with reference to the security of the living, and the atrocious and frightful practice for which some miscreants had of late suffered. He was not prepared to say that he ap proved of every provision of the Bill. But it appeared to be generally admitted that something ought to be done, and in his opinion they ought to go into Committee on the Bill, in order to try whether it might not be made such as to afford some remedy for the existing evil. As to the giving up of the bodies of all persons dying under sentence of felony, that might enhance the penalty on some felonies, but would lower it in case of murder, supposing that dissection ought to be made the sentence for murder, which some doubted. Mr. HUNT, after dwelling upon the numberless changes of opinion with respect to poor laws in Ireland of the Learned Member for Kerry, did not despair that the next whirl of the weathercock would once more bring him round to his late, and ancient, and often-renewed pledge, in favour of some system of legislative relief for the poor of Ireland.--(Hear, and a laugh.) He would not waste the time of the House in exposing the fallacy of the Learned Member's present views ; indeed he had himself exposed them in all there nakedness when stating them, but would at once declare that the only ground the Learned Member now had far opposing poor laws in Ireland was, his belief that, if they were adopted in that country, such would he their beneficial effect upon the condition of its unfortunate poor, that they would no longer serve as useful tools in agitating his darling measure of a " repale" of the Union. —(Hear, and laughter.) This was the plain fact, which not all the Learned Gentleman's recklessness of assertion could force him to deny. He dreaded the adoption of poor laws in Ireland, because he felt that they would in duce a peaceable and settled state of things rather un favourable to his agitation—schemes of personal aggran dizement.—(Hear.) Ily the English law every man was bound to maintain his own bastard,—but in Ireland, in consequence of the absence of so wholesome and j,',ist et provision, it was not, he believed, a very rare occurrence tor a wretched mother to he consigned to prison for the maintenance of the illegitimate offspring of some leading politician whose only talk was cant, whose only conduct was the basest treachery.—(Hear, hear.) PHENOMENON.—On Tuesday last, after a very heavy storm, a❑ extraordinary phenomenon was ob served at the Buckhold wood, Lydart, Troy Park, and other places in the neighbourhood of Mon►nouth. The ground and trees were covered with myriads of live snake. like insects, quantities of which were collected by different persons. They are six or seven inches in length, about the thickness of a horse-hair, white, and quite transparent. —Monmouthshire Merlin. STING OF THE BEE.—It may not be gene rally known that common whiting proves an effectual remedy against the effects of the sting of a bee or wasp. The whiting is to moistened with cold water, and im mediately applied. It may be washed off in a few minutes, when neither pain nor swelling will ensue.— Correspondent of the Stirling Advertiser. Mr. SADLER observed that the Legislature bad decided it. The eel is evidently a link between the fish and the serpent, but can exist a long time out of water, which its nocturnal migrations prove, though probably a certain degree of moisture on the grass is necessary to enable it to do this. That they do not wander from one place to another is evident.—Jesse's Gleanings in Natural History. The Earl of FIFE admitted that this was a subject on which their Lordships ought to proceed cautiously. But the time had come when something must be done, and he was, therefore, for going into the Committee, in order to try whether this might not be made a beneficial law. The House then divided on the question that the word " now" stand part of the question. Contents Not Contents Majority tbr the Bill The Bill was then read a second time. Some private c onversat i on too k p l ace as to t h e time for going into the C omm i ttee , b ut no d ay was t h en fi xe d. Adjourned till to-morrow at Ten o'clock. THE TONIC LAXATIVE CHEL TENHANI SALTS, or Mild Corroborant Aperient, Prepared and Invented by Messrs. PERRINS, LEA, and PERRINS, from a careful Analysis of the Chalybeate and Saline Waters of the justly celebrated Montpelier Springs. Various, but still very imperfect, efforts having been made by the first practical Chemists to combine the peculiarly mild and unstinaulating Tonic and Chalybeate properties of these long-establish e d and unrivalled Waters, with the aperient qualities for which they are so universally taken in the cure of Bilious Disorders and Atony of the Stomach, Messrs. Perrino, Lea, and Perrins have the satisfaction of announcing to Medical Practitioners and the Public in general, that they have effected this much-desired combina tion, in a manner decidedly and absolutely new and perfect. unitint he g the strengthening anti-dyspeptic properties of the Waters with the deobstruent and aperient effects of the origin a l Springs, while at the same time th e free disen gagement of Carbonic Acid Gas (fixed Air) is produced during their solution in a manner fully equal, if not supe rior contai n no Tonic quality, so essential in Saline Prepara tions for general use, are now prepared by Messrs. Pec tins, Lea, and Perrins, who, having the sanction of the first medical opinions of the beneficial effects of this pre paration, can confidently recommend the Tonic Aperient Salts as a substitute for the Waters, in all cases where De bility of the Digestive Organs exists, and also in cases Where the ordina ry S aline Aperients produce Langour of the System. Voyagers and Inhabitants of Warm Climates will find t e Tonic Effervescing Laxative Salts of invaluable benefit and importance; they improve the Appetite and Di ges ti on , remove Biliary Accumul at i on, and may he taken daily for any length of time with un diminish e d good effect. Sold in Bottles at 4s. 6d. each, by Messrs. C. Butler a nd co., Cheapside, and other Medicine Vender's in town s ad country. SWALLOWS.—The swallows of Sweden, at the approach of winter, plunge into the lakes, and remain there asleep, and buried under the ice, till the return of spring. Then, awakened by the returning heat, they leave the water and resume their usual flight. While the lakes are frozen, if the ice be broken in certain places which appear darker than others, the swallows are found in great quantities, cold, asleep, and half dead. If they are taken out, and warmed by the hands or before a fire, they soon begin to exhibit signs of life ; they stretch themselves out, shake themselves, and soon fly away. In other places they retire into the caves, or under the rocks. Between the town of Caen and the sea, along the banks of the Orne, there are many of these caverns, where during the winter, clusters of swallows have been found suspended like bunches of grapes from the roof of the cavern. The same thing has been long ago observed in Italy. SIIEFFIELD.—We lament to state that a fatal case of cholera, accompanied with most of the cha racteristic sympt o ms of the Asiatic form o f the disease, has occurred in thi s t o w n . The patient was a tailor, named FOSTER, who had recently left Thorne. Ile was attended by Mr. F. PEARSON, . Dr. FAVELL, and Dr. KNIGITT, and seen by a consider able number of medical gentlemen of the town. We understand that the poor man had greatly neglected himself at the commencement of the disease, and thus rendered the chances of his recovery a hundredfold less than they would have been.— Sheffield Courant, HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE 19. Mr. MACAULEY took the oaths and his seat for Caine ! Mr. Preston appeared at the Bar with a copy of certain resolutions of the Court of the East India House. Mr. Johnston appeared at the Bar with a return of the amount of fees taken in the Admiralty Court. BIRMINGHAM AND LONDON RAILWAY. On the motion of Sir G. Sizirwrrit, the Birmingham and London Railway Bill was read a third time. The How. BARONET then moved the addition of several clauses, by way of riders The first clause was a reservation in favour of the Grand Junction Canal Company, and provided, that, if any accident, caused by the railway, should impede the free navigation of the Grand Junction Canal, the Railway Company, in certain cases, should render compensation to the amount of 101., and in others 30/. per hoar during such impediment. This clause went through its several stages, and was ordered to be added to the Bill. The second clause was to preserve the levels of the rail way, which was added to the Bill. The third prohibited any engine: on the railway from Mr. SADLER rose to bring forward his motion re specting making a provision for the poor of Ireland. Ile expressed his intention to give every Member an oppor portunity of solemnly recording his opinion, whether or not the poor of Ireland were entitled to relief, and if that right be Conceded, whether it was expedient any longer to withhold that relief. He was de termined not to let a single Session pass while he had a seat in that House, without bringing this ques tion forward ; but he did not despair of the decision of this night. He recollected that when he brought the subject for ward last Session upon resolutions, he was told he should have proceeded by introducing a Bill, but upon considers tion, he was persuaded that the course he then pursued was the best one. All that this Parliament could do was to affirm a resolution on the subject; and he had taken the proper course to endeavour to effect that object. In addressin g hi mse lf t o t h e su bj ect, h e would not hesitate to place in the face and front of the argu ment, the right of the poor to relief founded on the nature of things--a right which lies at the foundation of all civilized institutions, which was affirmed and esta blished by the most sacred injunctions. Mr. Locke, in that celebrated treatise which might justly be denomi nated the foundation of British liberty—his treatise On Government, had asserted that no man had so complete a right to his own property as to exclude the claims of his poorer fellow -creatures ; and the same opinion had been entertained by all great Le gislators. Religion, in all its forms assumed, recognized, and sanctioned the justice and necessity of such an institu tion. Whenever society advanced, just in proportion as the people removed from barbarism, was this right asserted . and provid e d f o r, an d i n a ll th e c i v ili ze d countries of Europe provision was established for the poorer classes of the community. In the United States, where, if any where, it might have been dispensed with, provisions being cheap, and labour plentiful, as one of her ablest in uTioteurrs system, and provision for the poor, which was there establi s h e d, exten d e d to o bj ects no t comprised and by which the poor of everyand compl ex i on were rel i eve d .— (H e ar') h would never cease out o f t h e l a nd, and thi thswas a truth whi c h, supported by the hi g h es t sanction, was nut, country e poor he thought, inconsistent with the true interests of every civilizedprovi sion ior c t o h m ei i r nu r n e i l t ie y f . h\al,drithbeeoy been civi lized count r i es , and that un h app y e xception was Ireland. est o a n b e lis e i x e c d ep i t n ion a , il provi The questi on th ere f ore w hi c h na t u rally arose, was, whe ther there w as t h ere di stress to b e alleviated, affliction t o be removed, or poverty to be relieved, or whether the Mr. STANLEY proceeded to observe, that the Legis lature might have decided that single question ; but it had not decided whether it was equitable or politic to make distinctions in taxation between those who were resident and those who were not so. Would the Hon. Gentleman say that the proprietors of land iu Ireland who were absent were the only absentees? What would he say to the absentees who received the interest on mortgagee of land in Ireland? These were only a few of the nuinermir difficulties with which, whoever undertook the subject, to the consideration of which the resolutioo of the Hon. Gentleman would pledge the House, mast grapple. Mr. CHAPMAN in opposing this measure did not mean too opposed it on himselfa account o to u u o t oppose o these a time mod a i fi t e which system h ie h it : he chiefly wa brought forward, as he considered that, however con s i s t en t it might be in the Hon. Member, who looked forward with fear and apprehension to the Reformed Parliament, to endeavour to bind the House, and hurry forward the mea sure now, it would be very unsuitable in those who anti cipated great and important benefits from the next Parlia ment to advocate so vague and, indefinite a proposition which the Hon. Member himself acknowledges he does not intend to follow up by any specific measure, and which, therefore, cannot possibly lead to any practical re sults. Mr. JAMES GRATTAN supported the motion. 01 this he was convinced, that the question as to the Repea; of the Union would never be etttled until the laws re apecting the poor in the two countries were assimilated. When matters so important were pressing forward—when he saw on the Table two Bills—the one to prevent th. poor of Ireland from emigrating to this country, the other to regulate Tithes—he thought a subject of such magni tude as that which the lion. Member for Aldborough had brought !forward ought not to be disregared. He was perfectly convinced that Wile inealliro, such as that winch Mr. CALLAGHANhad ever supported the principle of the Hon. Member's motion, and would therefore cor dially support it now. He really knew not how the Learned Member for Kerry could venture to make that 'sight's statement, opposed as it was in principle to the un- Answerable doctrines on the subject of Dr. Doyle. Mr. LAMBERT, in support of the motion, said that Dr. Doyle had so fully exposed the cant and hypocrisy of the objection to poor laws, founded on their all. ged ten dency to narrow the channel of voluntary charity, that ha need only refer to that able divine's pages. 'Was it not a notorious fact, that in Ireland, the absentees aim gieat pro irietors wholly neglected their duty to the poor, and would continue to do so till compelled by a, ligislative iftlactinent ? Then, in Ireland there was no provision for illegitimate children; the wretched mother had to bear the whole expense and ignominy. Was it wonderful, there tore, that infanticide should occur to her thoughts? 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