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IMPERI4L PARLL4MENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. MONDAY, MARCH 16. THE Earls Of STAMFORD and EGLINGTOUN, and Lord AMHERST were sworn and took their MILS. - The Marquis of SALISBURY (Lord Chamber lain) reported His MA; mires Answer to the late Address of the House, rebate to' the Journals, &c. bf the; PArlianient Of Ireland, which stated His Majesty's ;Intention to, ,give direftions accordingly. • J-he Bills upon the Table, chiefly private, were forwarded in their respeftive stages; several of tte'public Bills went through a Committee •of the whole House. DUNDAS, &c. brought up the Post- Office Duty Bill, and the Paper Tax Bill from the Ctimmons, which:Were severally read a first time. private Bills were also presented by Sir EDWARD LITiLETONs Mr. BARNARD, and other Gentlemen. - On the Motion . of Lord AUCKLAND •an Ad dress to His MAJES.TY was agreed to, .praying that he would he graciously pleased to order that there may be laid before, the House certain' Ac_ counts respdling the net Income of the Post- Office, exclusive of Pensions:and Parliamentary qtarits, &c. &c. from the years 1760 to ISO°. The Earl of DARNLEY observed, that in order . to• avoid any imputation' . of wishing to, take the House by surpri?ee, he then gave niitiee, that on. Friday next he should bring forwatd his pfOlicistd motion relative the State of the Nation, and for whiCh day he moved that theit'Lordships be sum:none . d—which was ordered accordingly. Some routine business was then disposed of, and the House adjourned till to=morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, MARCH 16. Dr. DUTGENAN, Sir W. GRANT Mr. BUR toN, and another Member took t 1; .. e• Oaths and • their Seats. Sir fV. ELFORD said he had a Petition to present w the House; the nature of which he would state :—lt was from a person of the name of Koops, the inventor of the method of making PaPer from Straw. He had already procured' a Patent for the. discovery, hut- on trial has fund that in erder to its being turned to any account, or being practised to any extent, a much larger Capital than can be supposed possible to be raised by five.persons, is ,abiolutely , necessary ; the-first obje& of the Petition is'therefore for power to exrend the Coucermito a greater number of persons than five,. to- whictilie is limited by his patent. The second objeet - of . the Petition.is of a different nature. The usual plan in cases of . Patents is, that the specifications on Which they are granted are enrolled inChancery ; and it is obvious that it is thus in the power of any person to procure a copy of them. The Petitioner has no apprehen sions from this on. his own account, as .his Patent will protottlam in this Country, but his objet is ,to preyent the discovery from being known abroad.—He:— therefore petitions that his specifi cation in'stead of being. enrolled in 'Chancery, should be lodged in the hands of the Loa p CHAN CELLOR. _ The Petition was brought up and referred to a CoMmittee. Mr. I. H. ADDINGTON moved, that the SPiAKER do grant his Warrants to the Cleric of the. Crown, to issue - ncw Writs - for the Eletion of Menibers to serve in Parliament respthively, for the Borough of Devizes, in' the room of the Right Hon. HENRY ADD INdTON, who, .since his eleetion, has accepted the Office of Chancellor of the Exchequer ; for the Borough of Cprff Castle, in the room Of INTATHANI BOND, Esq. and for the Boroaghiof Weobly, in the room of Lord GEORCETHYNNE, who,. since :heir -elec. tion, have each accepted the Office of. Commis.: slim= of tlis Majesty.'s. Treasury.—Ordered. , Leave of Absence, fora fortnight, was moved , for, and granted, to BUSHY, Mr. VYNER, and several other Members. Sir W. ELFORD stated, that he . had a Peti tion to present to the House,- but as it was of a nature to .re9uire the consent of 'the Crown, be. fore it can be received, and as this consent can regularly only be intimated by the CH ANC El. LOR, ,of the E7CCI/EQUtR, he wished that the time for receiving Private Petitions might be extended , for a few days, to obviate the difficulty. He how ever, made no Motion, - and nothing was done on the suggestion. The ATTQBNEY GENERAL gave notice, that,. to-morrow, he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to indemnify Persons who have had their IVlills forcibly pulled awn and de tstroytd. A Message from the Lords intimated that they had passed three Natural4ation Bills. Mr. M. A:TecyLott- brought up the_ Report of the ' Committee ph the Poor Relief Bill.—The Report was read, the AmendmentS. agreed to ; a new - Clause was brought up and agreettto to; the farther consideratiOn of the Report was def erred to Wednesday, and the Bill, as amendedi-was ordered to be printed. The American Flour Importation Dill was read a third time and past. - Mr. LONG said, that an Hon. Gentleman whom he now saw opposite to him, had given notice of a Motion for some day in the end of the week, he believed Friday : it, no doubt, must be unplea sant to the Hun. Gentleman to put off his Motion so frequently from time to time., but he .hoped that he would not object to delay it far a few days longer, in consideration of 'circumstances, the cogency .Of which he must be fully sensible of; more especially as he could assure the Hon.. Gentleman that the same ground should not again be urged for any farther delay. .Mr. GREY :mid it certainly was extremely unpleasant to him to have his - Motion so long and s frcqly , ntly.deferred, bin as the circumstances ye occasioned this, and on which he was y..w oni.:e more to defer it, would not again exist, anti as ne Ilii(1 itil a/ 3U/ ..,.... from the Honourable Gentleman that no farther application - of ittis . nature thbuld be made to him, he would. !not objea to, put it off for a few, .days longel'. - j woUld now make his e Itictioisattid ford ay next wiek, that would be.roost agreeable to Gentlemen opposite. He had himself thought' of Tuesday, but if any other - day would...be ..more convenient...he. waiald..hay e no objdtion. to name it. He wished it, .how ever, now to be understood, tliat nothing but the clearest . grotind • of most urgent • neeessityi- would again induce him to pbstprie liii 114orio,ri any farther char? kite - Ag that should now be 11441 on, and that he certainly would * bring it forward on that day. • 7 7 14 • ' . ' ''''' ' ' . The notice was made for ' Wednesday se'n . night. .The House resolve; itself isito a Committee on the Expifiog LaWs. Bill, and the ltepo'tt . was or dered to be received to-morrow. , ,: • •.'7 . The Horse Duty 'Biil . wa§,'read a'third time.. .. M,- ROSE said, on theßepresentation of clic Commissioners of Hackney.coaehes,, it had been thought that *it would be.,expedient to exempt from the . Bill, Horses'ernplOYed'in theui, and that lie meant to fnoye - an.Ainendment to the.,Bill to, .that cited.. • . . , . Mr. M-.---11:1"24YLOR said, that Curates, who having to travel siiior seven miles to officiate, in two different churClie j ti, in one day, and Who are ,thus obliged to keep a Horse, but whose incomes are far from enabling them to bear this expense, ) t i ot%lit, in ltis opiniOn; to be exempted as far as ;possible from the operation *of new Taxes. He was aware, that suchas keep, only one Horse, are nod affeded by this TaX, but he merely wished to take this opportunity of suggesting.the propriety of exempting them from the former Taxes on Horses, 'and to ask if there would be any ob. jetaion to such a measure, if proposed. Mr. ROSE said, that this subject could not properly be discussed at prefient; as it has no connexion with this Bill. _ _ 'PORTER said, that be thought that the rate of rent at which it is proposed to exempt farmers from paying the Tax imposed by this Bill, was in his opinion much too lbw.; and that lie had a Clause which he wished to propose, to fix that rate 'at' Sol. a-year instead of 201. /11i - . BUXTON thought that the rate originally proposed, of .aol. a-year was too low, and that thit proposed by the Hon. Gentleman was too high, and that a.proper medium might.fie struck between them.' , • H , 'Mr. PITT said, that on the suggestion of several very respetiable Gentlemen, thatlhe den which this Bill would impose upon the small farmers in the Northern parts .of .thelCingdom and in Wales, would be extremely oppressive, i i t liadlieen agreed that an exemption to a certain extent should be made,' becanse it.was thought that. relief might be . given to 'those to whom- . it was most necessary, without any great detriment to the. Revenue; 'But if - Gentlemen one. after another,' ihotild •gb On prOpOsing the eitension of this exeniption to higher and higher classes of farmers, he apprehended that great mischief must ensue, because, it must tend greatly• to diminish the Public Revenue. •For this reaiton he would oppose the bringing 'up the proposed Clause. The Ques don, for bringing up ' the,Clause was -.2 then negatived; " Mr. Roia then brought up a Clause to exempt Farmers,."haVing only two Horses, and who 4o not pay More Rent than 301. a y'ear, which Was read and agreed to. , An Amendment to the, Bill, exempting Hack; trey coachliories from - the Duty, was adopted?, The Bill.ws& then passed. Mr. M. 4. TAYLOR gave notice, that'iti' soon as the:CHANCELLOR of the Excilafav,im shall have taken his Seat,. he would move for.a', Committee to consider the Duties on Horses, for the purpose of yoposing, that' Curate 3,. 'Whose income is not above tool. A year, and who are lbliged to keep a Horse in order to the discharge, of their duty, may be exempted from the Pay:), -• of such Duties- " ment of such Duties. Pursuant to order, the Stampt Duty Bill was read a third time. . Mr. SHERIDAN said, he hoped there would now be no objeEtion to the, Amendment which he had intimated, on a former night; his intention to propose to increase the DiscOunt allowed by the Bill to Newspapers. • • , Mr. PITT. said, that inquiry bad been made, and-that it had been found and allowed that the discount granted by •this Hill, ig a full equivalent for the new duty imposed. If'other circumstances lisave tended to impose new hardships on 'the Newspaper Proprietors, that has,, nothing to do with this. Bill. Ne i understoOd that The rise in the price of Paper, from various causes; was felt severely by them ; but the cittetion at present is merely,,, Whether the .discount allowed by this Bill is eqUivalent to .the new Duty imposed upon them ? It may be fair in them to apply for a repeal:of the limitation; of price set on :News paperS4 'they may preseor . a Petition for this Pur pose, and. if the House,' on inquiry, should find chat - circumstances* have •now rendered that ration severe, it may be removed, and they may thus have their grievances redressed., But if by this Bill they. are' subjeetecl to. no. grievance to Which they would.not have been subjeled inde. pendent 'of it; he: could see - ; no reason.why any Amendment should .be made or why it should_ be made the channel of relief from . griev ances which result froth °ibex ,Causes and ,circum stances . • • Mr. .SHERIP AN - said, the Right Hon. Gen_ tletnin had proposed, in a round.about away, just what he - wished to be done summarily. If he wished the limitajon of the price of -News papers to be continued,. he would then. propose that an adequate compensation should be made to the Pioprietors, so that they might remain in the same situation as when the last arrangements were Made between the revenue and there, and when this limitation of price was imposed..l But if. this is obi:jetted to, then he would propose that the fimitation of'thc. ptke- of their coMmodity should be ,taken off, for - although elle Public already pay t.tdliciet;tl,y high for this commodity, deaLip it to impose new taxes upon . it, and at the sal/game to fix a num, :. h an sliciuld . npt be sold; ince t ; fo er I sco ts were - granted, Nur the arran , me" which re supposed to be fiiial,..were mr ~ o whic . s the fixing of this Maximorn, many burdens have fallen on the Newspaper Proprietors ; Paper has ..xisen,..mo re than..3,3.4vi5cnt......4.1,11.4.11,14111. 1 1. , will raise iv zo . -per cent. .roore. Thqe burdens take'n 'in 'contfealon ti , ith ehe adaitional expence to - Which thefin' nit be piiiiiiiiacttiU , ,„ ~ . l of rates of. pos't.ligctilipi tl4. ni Fc -nvt-pcuptateyL , men's wages,. have redueed , thein touch .a situa tion, that: .he knew from : the bey .authority., that_ , except "relief in .some.'forrn ' or other , sboLikt - 1)e •gre.nted Oicrn,SCVCral of these.ploPiierorip fi l ipers which now. pay i ;001. a year.:to , :GOrertiment, had declared .that they cannot . -continite.Aheir business. lie oshoultl thetclare. mpg' ) ,either t hat instead of , an. additional discontit of 41,- los. -or cent. ati, atfdifiOttal discount . of. 91. per'Cenit:, skiAd he •grani ' ed them. Jiiii . iroii:, Anwndiiii.h4 Ni tl_. rAt•-i•hottld not be agreed to, 11e would propose tht' they should he ‘ allowed to fix7illeir own.' price,, and that 41 , clause . should be inserted in the Bill for this purpose. ' • ' /1" - .1.'AilDT' replied," tbitt' as this Bill imposed upon 'Nei,vspa per Proin ietori..no:iiew grievance; he 'cciiiid.fibt agree to intrOdUcX.,iri;O; if any Clause, to.grant- them: teiief ;from-griev,iiiices extrinsic]: fromit. .- '' .•'. . :Mr. SH EP..t,r7m4. inoted; " That instead of the words, a Discount of - 4 1 ,. los. per Cent. be sub stituted the. words, a Di,count!Of - 81. per Cent." Mr. 11013,110 L'S E "sal - 4111'k if ir Discount - of 41. 10S. per . Cont. was °lily exadily proportioned to the, ad4trion!il dut . S.:, ..it t:1114 :not be s?udi that such a Discootlit w J i iildilie a fiiii:Oroperisa'tion to,fhe 'Newspaper IL'roprietartl:l 'oceanic it is well known,. that any nevvi,Ptay , vpo,a,,Corrimoi4ly,.nitrit a 1.... ways raise the priae of it,i-ri the Boyer, tOore s ,tlia4i.• iri the exalt ratio-of the Duty, oWingfo,,the ad . _ -. di t i onal - Capi tal..wli iqh ,i t 0?.4 - . lc-es*.iiece,Sary fro .ibc, carrying on of the 'trade orliViatinfaEture'i:,. • - Mr. ROSE sa id, that theaDiseoun't iii is not so exatty proportioned to the,Duty, as not to..gtker . an allowance for this additional Capital : 4.4 :per . Cent. would bas,.e been a full, equival,ent. for the Duty. . I L Ll 3 /II lat. ..ar•••• Mr. Sit r k KLAN% A mendmentfv,as put, and negatived without,a,djvision., , , • ,-.:,..,' • it Mr. SHERIDAN -said, he- wotild notfiess this tmitter fiw Crther t t t present , but he no: 4 notice, that he would wk..- advantage of dig, * l ' cessions matleby. the - Right ; Hon. Gentlernap;tfur bring the subjea for ward,on a fFp r e oceaiidtf." The Bill was then passed. ----,- !t - 7 " —... Wita •.._ Mr. 3HERIDI4Y said, he now found that, the discount allowed - by ,this, WI, - Was - not , i fpr any duty imposed by the. Bill, hut for the new duty on Paper, and therefore., there could - be 'nu! reason in the Right-Hon. Gerstlnian's ar,goMerifi • that it wnnld be . absurd to great by this Bill, - re-. lier from grievances' not oepioned by it, 'be- • cause this, the Bill, as originally framed, was intended to do. _ ... Mr. ' PIiTT replica, that certainly. this Bill has' no contieelion with Newspapers, and, if the 'lion.. Gentleman misconceived it, he could not eomplain , of him for having even departed, from order, in answering what he had brought irregu. lill" k.l y : Pito . discussion._ • . IRELAND. i Lord C'ASTLEREAGH brought 'in a Bill for further continuing she Suspension of the Habeas .Orpus-Ad in Irelind for a limited time, which af* - a .first, and ordered to' be` read a second ( - time ao.morrow. •, : 4,i . t ,YP/1.2V" PARIITELL.. said, he wished to afi•theattention of: the House. for a moment, to : o ti Si i ibjeet which he had, formerly mentioned, but tiepeCting which, he had expeaed from its being tiaken; - up lir large , by an lion. :Gentleman (tdr4- . ltybiß) much More. qualified for inanaging . .it Ilan he , could pretend , to be, it Would'hive been t nnecess'ary for him again to advert-: , tot That Hon.:. 'Gentleman proposed - some Resolut,ions a which % were 'agreed to, - for. g rating the i same Bounties on COrn and other - Provisions imported illio Ireland, • that are•payablc on their 7 importa. lion into thhCountry, ;'• but • the effeet . of these . most wise kes'olutions would, at_ least_ asio one_ article, : be frustrated, if certain crausea of an, 1:16t . of ' the. 33d of the King, .whick prOhAited, under very:heavy penalties, the 'landing of` any .. cargo, .or part of a .car g o, from a. vessel'eoin ing from the . Fast Indies • into Irelansi,,were.. not repealed. . All ships coming from. the East Indies, are therefore, at present.obligeciao. come first,, to the Thames, and . Lind their...cargoes, no. part. of, which can ,reach,lrelanktor two or three m olts after. Now,. it will be of, no ser- Vice that ad equal Bounty is maile .i "piy'able on the importation-of -Rice from the: East IndieS into Ireland,. `as -into'..tlii3 Ctitii ! itry; if these clauses stand unaltereci.or. unrepez,iled, because' none can be imported. ; lie did not wi :h to propose. that the clauses 'should be.repealed any., fa triter than.t,a,. grant tilt:liberty of':the dirett'importation of Rice. 13e w4lied thatliVe 110 n, .GenilemaU who Moved the former Resolutions, would attend . to this subjed, and 'tistid,olo6 j 'alt . rifantenentof - the business entirely. -,?:1 - 14,w14)k!d that.lie would i'(.ll,Aidy in his Bill, such enaeltnerrts as. would put Ireland, with regard to this rncahs of Teller, a:, well as others, on the same ,footirig, with=Eng. land. Some steps , are necessao to be taken, as it _would make. a _difference of, three "Or , four Months, in the time in ..which this relief will reach Ireland, It.may ,ninkendiffcrenee to that Country of rectivingrelief whe n It is in the, Most argent 'necessity, ori of receiving supply. after perhaps' an abundant harvest has, rendered, it' no 16nger an objeet of desire. lie. hoped to be ex. cbscd for trobbling the House, ,, but-he thought tfte subjea of such' importance_ that it - ought not to run the risk-of being overlookid. - ' Mr. RYDER said; the House was- certainty , obliged to the Hon. La rone t , for .hi4isuggestioiis i and however unworthy of them, the compliments paid tO himself he - could: not -butacknoW ledge . The suhjed mentioned by the Hon. Baronet, had certainly been under consideration, and the best from the East Indies to _lreland, had been con. suited on. - It, no doubt, is both right and ne. cessary, that the Clauses mentioned 'by the Hon. Baronet should be repealed, so far as to effed , this object—and something to this effeCt _was meant to be comprehended in the Bill which he should bring in. When that Bill is brought in, .he WilLUes-Wagt14.1.114.-AlgalingllPSALaig auk 2 - as Lord radPPCmASsSAgEt.R.E-ir,H-,CL,:01.---eir-1 a" .- Bill, for 1---efinfiiiifiertairt-Riiiiei-ity--Vtriand-forone year, which yia(inaiii.,olt4t, tithei„,,Ad Ord T red to be . reler a 'se:Chita riint - ko l liiierroty. l . ''''''''-• -' ' t l - Tlot r kisaus, resolVea.fitelf into a Comtpit!eF, to consiaec certain A ds of .tae Irish Parliament. Lord CAST LA Itt A G R.-MOVE:tato resolve, "That it is theopiniothf.this'CorWntittee, that the Du. ies payable oni-Tolage- . and Stainps in Ireland, be ' continued for ond - rittiii,vfrom the zsth of Marsh,' Irgen ." i'. ' ' . • 7 • • I " ' . 4 'Mr. IMGIT'ELL observed . , that some regula iotlAbould-be adopted to.equaliie• the weight of etters allowed to be' franked in Ireland and in rigtmt-Intrivesetrt-Tohicconfusinri-arises from rams., extending . to 'lvi!s- - zionces in Ireland, p r , hireas..they.are - limited to one in England. , ,Lvid CASTLLIZE4O.II'sIid, , thAt this would 10 e matter of arrange - Merit in the Bill which would llow on tit 15 I esafptitni. - ' • Sir -:7011N - r4givELL - expressed himself 7. appy to.hear that soine.altoratinris 'were intended to - be made on this subject,' a< Tr saved him the . • .4: 1 necessity of now troubling thafouse... 1i:. ' The Resolution was. greed, to, anti the Report. - of the Committee was ordered to be `receiVe&ttar -- 1 . :' • • Morrow. LOYM CA ST Pilt r A,G H-. moV4foilUivt, ailitiiii - 7 ::- - a Bill'-=to stottr - tiie , ntikiiiebr I'Vlatiliitltit l 4 . " (lig iiiiih - g tit` =SPi?iii`.trorn gitit in I tei*titt, 1:44 - ' time to be I imi tect. - -Les v Fkrah ted .' . .. 1 1;631? tnATTL'Eti EA irtifeiveil: the Orde r'` Ole Dir, for,the',4l6d 444114 of tite Ir.iioll4Nit 4ini-Law - .8i11,. ~cllc...4 r liiii, , lipOrtiii)iff- -4 1 4 114. `test to some thinV in thellill,,, which seetifo4_ik ir . dause appiehengicin in theiiiiiii*okSolllelooorii k 4 men. Anione theseoi;atNiilxi:Ftnall-':ntinitite , 1 0340 which,,426,iti - k 'l3 . 4; : llle:Ctlte(ti-Nlar.tial` 0'14214 eomposed::: In pollit-TO - r44; , Oita , thi,.gitt wail , first brotiglitln,,iti:4lsikno inulittinni4Vere'madi qn ttieno:sublgt..,,-liliTt : ;tile, V.44le:'•ecinchtlt, of 11A.,‘ *lalutinsii--I',oao444fejfie .. .discration of- the Lora llientenant,:?4.s- Au:ls aftersvatas .suggested, bir ~ s me Geolleinlia,;: this, --in . sonie:•c4ses,.it Might :-.., - difficna•- ai..proeure - :any -giater- number of rlittiii4bah - three, and a Clayse- . 4tas acciirttingly •.'. il it rodpq4into..tite Mll, • - sten'it .was .-ret*wce, -141st year. - ,. - .ll.tut he .cottlii , .atsiire 'the - Home, -:tliat:... in .aa . o .. ne'ease, had there been a Court-Marti a l held consi sing of so few a_ . . nurnket,....._ Indeed: • ' . • .. . . - .... t,ie 20Wer.grapted h):.:tlie - Aft had been un ti ono:: - 1/ - eitTased witti;,the qrietst attention and-' , anxiefy .fOr the -'ailincnistratien of. Justice,. m i t t., 41 ministration - . -Of - it .t 60,. in Mercy, -.....The , ,.) ground?? of , accusation have,- uniformlybeeisar clfefully-. inquired into by . the chiel,oo.verfkar, - himself,. .before the appointment .of the,Court. Vlartial, and, their sentences htive - alWayo, been reviewed dnd:Ompared With the evidence, before . the warrant, tor_the execution of theAeritenasChan 1 en issued. The' power 'having, 'heal ahtrays tv • t us exercised, and sure as he,ar,'Jhat it would i alivays i'oexercised, 'he :felt. for'-hii otirn'parf t easy as 'to points wltjcli seemed to ~ ;iv e. Anne • other gentlemen* alarm ; but he sho u ld In; happy to 'Meet theirideas,'and to-,make • that matter ~ regulation wh i c h had - a lw ays 'and' w ould 1 • ' a w..; -.. . be attended .to prhaice. . .7 , - ; w Al. A. .74y . LqR. adverted t o the , Powe r: • of infliaing 'TOrtUre granted by the l3lll, r , I . said, that he intended to move an •Amendnient -to the . .111.16"abolisli:that power. •-•_ 'Lord c AsrkEeSA o.ll ' said, -ilat he co u l d •••'' understana•the notice of the'i-lon:Gen l ti,ern an onli•i'.. tp cptimgy,ap t insinuattotk,4o)nt the . v.e Fprp elkt ,% 41reland,. that such had•been the cy.erei!;e of.tho ~.;: bower granted by titik trpsure oa . He hoped*-nei: ' sucl4.irks'ir.Oktion - ,would iatrd into et •A L .r,• ,. • • Couilty_Eas certain)/ no'ne•,Could;lielnarefaise, • - a i r vounaless.Wlien th7ficiti.' . entlemariShOTilet - •. j hiring ft!t'ittatif his :Motion, .: an'trliieli;lrge It i 'i' or t, % lireh'it ii 'founded; he 'would thWibe hippy . to a o ii,v 4t e ld. r I t i .r i o m m , -,. a a il oc , l l - B t.. 6 6 6 .,Y,i r i a ici ttpet iCat: id . t ri l l e'acier , i , im . e .a s ..c. ,.t , : : i t ' • I The - &PE AKE R --.. '615; the • cOnveirs..AtiOtt viat'... . , irregolar . .as it wasmottipon ther.qudstion. . I 'Ole . O rder was then rk..4lglr_ the. ser,onettad.,‘7-': ! - ingrif the ,13i 11. • .' .' - "I'. ' 3 i' ' '' ' •••••-P' be Lord Cr i i.s.rt. a it 4: kdit itioved,. -4 k That, the Bill ?".. be read a second time'.'• '., ":•,..- ... • . Mr. M. A.T AY LOP- said; 0,a.; the who knew , - him, kneW that he , was not ;a 4 1114 i) t•z?orisalce hatges • •. lightly - hi - that •kroktm• ; . l to irifalke ,i,hern . withoutln.. quiryi.rtig - wheuihe *acnor.preparato tat alllistt 7 ;.' them:: He was !now -ready:to:•estahfislr his ,asser.i•- tiori i . that .the Government of : Ireland hod wide as . use Of the Torture in Otder to-extort eosifessionsia secrets. He would - ask, - was. not .thi;avowed and charged ti,rop the Governarem, -in .the Debates of this very measure I kit not nyowed from the high.' 4t authority, in ,a Speech aliterM in' the Irish: Parliament, and p' ithlisho with . the greatest ou r therrticity, with 'the m-melif its author .annext`V tO it—=he•was• notrsiire, if it was tot aft/wed dyed - 4i the Reports Of the Committee of the'-louse of Commons. •• :He . would: prove, that it had :been . .? exercised tinder .:oril• cANIDEN ;.. he betrtg'eck •:- . alsO,:cycn - under thc preset: r• 1,611 b LI t in* rirt Tr, whose ellaratier no man-could'venerate itor,ehigh- • .1y ;lian...be did. 'The granting a power to do ' .sticlyhing,§; ttiust ever be rtpvirn#nt to all the ,Pk iticj pt 6 -which 11e., bad , ever -, heki: He COD. Cluded with a• few observations on the little oc• ell-ion'tliat appeared.' to_ . to exist, for il - ,e Inca. him sure at.... 40- ._ • ,: •-: -. . .;', • ... ... . ! ' Sir•7ol l / 1 1- PA lUVELL ~ 71id, that he had had, an opportvaity of• oloSei - ving the eolidud of the -i -preseui Chef gqiesnor of I telani 14 4 4ejocercise • , 'of this powerv . .4Ltliat tie.:caulti6tOdtitly. at: serf, .that . it'has- . .beerrexcr;:ised-fry - Irlnv?Kit only Sit i di ! the .stri4est.regara .:to junks,- but 'evert with a ... 4legree of mercy -.which by . some o.as: . . tboigtft - 'tunircit: - lii'llits '. qpinioki ..a Military, farce is absolutaiy nicessary . For' Ir4-4rid.ai th e present present moment ; but he thought that if this