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'to another : and why you are to rob the one, and lend money ! to the other to buy the fruits of the robbery, I cannot conceive. It is not law, it is not equity ; and if it is policy , I confess I am too blind .to it. If tithes are an intolerable impediment to agriculture-4it is strange .they should be so, as the lay im propriations are scarcely ever bought up, and we are now suf firing from a load of capital misplaced in agriculture, so that it needed drawbacks rather' than bounties)—if however this be the :case, make a bargain with the church in the name of peace, and commute them, but do not rob her. It is needless to say that it is no robbery, when all the present incumbents are offered an equlvalent ; for in the first place, you cannot give us an equi valent for our freeholds ; and in the next, you cannot compen sate the church -in her corporate capacity by the money pay ment which you offer to us as individuals. Take the church property,' you say, and sell it for the general good ;" divide the land among the people,' say the Spenceans, anti establish an Agrarian republic.' The plea is the same in both proposals —the public good. .In equity Mr. Spence has the advantage, as he is no respecter of persons. Of such sweeping plans, how ever, Dr. Johnson says, that ' no man is more an enemy to public peace than he who fills weak heads with imaginary claims, and.breaks the series of civil subordination by exciting the lower classes of mankind to encroach upon the higher.'— When Robespierre guillotined the rich landlords to assign their estates to the disposal of the nation, he. did no more than draw a *ery'accurate deduction from the principle that had been esta blished by the first assembly relative to the Clergy. " Tithes are a rent charge laid upon their estates by the original proprietors for the maintenance of religion amongst • their tenants and vassals ; but even supposing them to be ori ' ginally granted by the Crown, does it follow that the Crown may justly resume theni ? if so, it may as certainly resume half the estates of the kingdom belonging to Lords and Com ' mons, which , were originall y grants from the Crown. ,All charters of corporations were given originally by . grants from the Crown ; and if the,Legislature can resume tithes at plea ' sure, because they were originally given by the Crown, she can resume all the estates and all the charters which were ever so given.' From the united considerations of religion and constitu • tional policy,' says Burke, the people of England have in ' corporated and identified the estateof the church with the mass Of private property, of which the state is not the proprietor,' either for use or dominion, but the guardian only and regu ' lator. 'They have ordained,.. that the provision of this este ' blishrhent might be as stable as the earth on which it stands, and should not fluctuate with the Euripusof funds and actions.' On this private property, though it has ever been the Naboth'S . vineyard of revolutionary leaders and needy statesmen, they cannot trespass without a breach of 'the eternal laws of justice, and the fundamental laws of the land ; and although you would content yourself with robbing the corporation, of which 1 am a member, of its freeholds, anti leave the Duke of Bedford and other lay impropriators in possession of that property which was transferred in the sixteenth century, from a plundered church to a court favourite, the matter could not stop' there : the robbery of the one would very speedily be followed by the spoliation of the other. The whole course of reasoning in your work is grounded upon an erroneous principle, namely, that the state is the pro prietor of the church revenues, and may resume them whenever she will ; than which nothing can be more unfounded. The . state is the guardian and the regulator, but not the proprietor. . She can never take possession of them by any other law than . that which will enable her to take possession of any other pro perty in the kingdom. The tithes are not, as you seem to sup pose, a tax upon an estate, which, like other taxes, may be con verted at the pleasure of the Legislature ; they are, according to Lord Coke, an ecclesiastical inheritance, • collateral to the estate of the land.' To compel the Clergy to exchange a permanent landed security, inextinguishable without the ex tinction of the land itself , for an uncertain and fluctuating security, perhaps not durable in itself even from the operation of redeeming the national debt, and at all times exposed to an nihilation by the breath of political convulsion and distress ; of this plan it has been remarked, that to convert the stipend of the Clew to a money payment, and vest their property in the funds, is the wickedest idea a profligate and unprincipled mind ever seriously conceived.' I should be sorry to apply such virulent language to the offspring of any man's brain ; but I certainly must think that the present proposal, in which, though the provision for the Clergy is dignified with the title of a rent charge Of undoubted security, it is in fact nothing but a tax upon all real property,. and of course therefore not so stable as funded seeurity, which is a mortgage upon real property ; a tax too which would very scionbe es odious as the tithe, paid as unwillingly, and taken away as easily, upon the first financial difficulty, and certainly as justly as in the original spoliation ; that such a proposal as this, though I will not call it profligate, is in principle utterly destitute of law and justice. " Having thus far considered its justice, I will proceed to con sider its expediency. • 'Now • expediency,' according to Dr. Johnson, is a good rule in little things, where no other rule has been established ; but as the great end of government is -6 to give every man his own, no inconvenience is greater than that of making right uncertain.' That plan, therefore which robs the church of her own, and sells it to another, makes all right uncertain, and must be inexpedient_; trtll fin„t i lito itniwinlgnj Owe). -teastaiN. " In the first place, the church establishment is celled a bit-- .den upon the people. 1 wish, however, to know on what part -.of the people this burden rests. Not upon the tenant, for if'the tithe were taken off, his rent would be mcreased by a sum equal - to the highest ever paid for tithe ; land, tithe-free, is always let at an increase far exceeding the highest rate of tithe: Not upon the landlord, for he either purchased his land at a less price be cause it was subject to tithe, or inherited it subject to that tax, and valued accordingly, and therefore if you take off the tithe, you make him apresent of that which the law never gave, and never can justly give him. Is it then the consumer ? Yes, it may be said, because he pays a higher price for his corn than he would if there was no tithe. Air. Ricurdo,_ in contradiction to Dr. Smith, says that the tenant and the landlord do not hear the burden of the tithe, but the consumer. Tithes are a tax on the gross produce of the land, and, like all taxes on raw produce, fall on the consumer.' He says that the farmer is compensated for the expence of tithe by the higher price of his produce, and not by a deduction from his rent ; an d -th a t, con sequently, when wheat is 80s. per quarter without tithe, it must and will rise to 88s. with tithe, in order to pay the cultivator th e Bs. which he pays to the church. But supposing this to be true, which it probably is, the right of tithe is just as sacred as right of rent, and the 'consumer is no more entitled to demand a di minution of the price of corn by the abolition of tithe, than he has to demand it by the abolition of rent. The tithe is a legal charge upon the land, known to exist previous t o cu lti va ti on , and not like a new tax imposed subsequent to it, 'and therefore it may be theoretically considered as a sort of tint only paid to the Clergyman instead of the landlord • and ie the consequence of its abolition is to be a proportionable dr4 in the price of produce, I do not exactly see how the suffering interests of the farmer and the landlord are to be aneywise bettered by the change. " Your plan, however, for lightening this ecclesiastical bur den seems to me, if I understand it rightly, somewhat a singular one; not the abolition, but the sale of tithes—not the allevia tion, but the transfer of the weight. In the first place, the maximum onus, the lay titles s, arc left untouched. In the next, it is proposed to sell the church tithes, and presumed that they will nearly all he bought up by the owners of the soil, to whom, however, money at four per cent. is very kindly, and, as times are, very Judiciously offered. And who are to be the gainers ? Not thc tenants ; for either their rents will rise, or the price of produce will fall; not the landlords, for if, in con tradiction to Mr. Ricardo, they should gain five millions and a half of rent, they/would loee it in the payment of their four per cent. loan. Bus suppose the landlords cannot buy their tithes, (and to do justice to the country they ought to be sold by auc tion, and then the fundholders will carry the day) what will be the consequences ? The . tithe will remain in its most odious form, exclusively in the hands of the lay impropriator, whose little finger must always be heavier than the loins of the priest. Who, then, would be the gainer ? I see none but he whose prosperity is already a source of 'such vexation to the landlord —the fundliolder ; if indeed he, or any other class of the com munity, could be gainers by a breach of faith, which, by shak ing the basis of national security, would poison the source of 'national wealth, and make us poor indeed. " I do not wish to enter the lists as a champion in the cause of decithation ; but . yet I must be permitted, on this occasion,l to say a few words in behalf of those poor persecuted tithes to which I have naturally a professional attachment, and whose cause we ought not to desert in their dying hour. The English language scarcely supplies an opprobrious epithet which has not been applied to them ; and that right which in times of darkness was upheld as divine e is now considered little less-than devilish. ' Satan himself,' says one antagonist, could not have devised a greater source of mischief in the Christian world ' than the payment of tithes.' Now the grand objection to them is, that they are a tax upon produce"; but if they are so, do es not the ability to pay increase with the produce, and that in a much higher proportion than the tithe suppose a farmer pays 10s. an acre rent, and gets - a crop worth 205., lie pays 2s. tithe, and has Bs. profit.; suppose his crop worth 201., hepays, it is true, 21. tithe, but his • profit amounts to 171. 'los. and thus, though his tithe increases as twenty to one, his profit increases in a higher proportion than forty to one. take 'the fol lowing statement from the Antijacobin Review, vol. ii. p. 93:- 4 A man eceupiessen acres of impoverished land, which yields only one quarter of wheat per acre, sold at 40s. the quarter, this yields the tenant 181. and the tithe owner 21. exclusive of straw : suppose the tenant spends 100/. in improving this land, and gets the following year three quarters of an " 4 acre instead of one—no extraordinary increase, the tithe owner 4 gets 6/. but the tenant 541. or 361. per cent. exclusive of .the ' straw, and this the very year it was expended, without advert ' ing to the advantages which will be felt for several years fol lowing. I am very well assured that it cannot be denied , upon any fair argument, that if 9-10ths do not pay the occupier for improving land already in tillage, the tithe.owner,who prevents by his claim the attempt to improve, is not the enemy but the ' friend of the tenant :' and it is some what droll, when the country is overstocked with arable land, and the market glutted with super fluous corn,to hold out as an advantage of this larcenous plan, that the tenant, if unshackled by tithe, will put into tillage lands " Which the fear of tithe keeps unimproved. •' when the fact is, that in spite of the pretended impediment of tithes, more lands have been put under tillagethan we know what to do with, arid there is scarcely a common leftin the country for the cottager to feed a goose upon. • " Mr. Ricardo says, that the consumer pays the tithe. Now, if he really does pay the full tenth, the farmer is unquestionably a great gainer by the arrangement ; for he certainly does not pay one-sixteenth to the Clergyman ; and I have no doubt but that this . is in some measure the case ; I have no doubt but that the farmer makes use of the tithe as a plea to demand either from, the landlord or the consumer , more than he is entitled to, and puts the surplus into his pocket. If the consumer pays this surplus, both tenant and landlord are the gainers; if the land lord pays it, then the tenant alone ; and thus far tithes may be a benefit instead of being art impediment to agriculture. Tithes, 'says Mr. Howlett, enable the lower class of tenants to better their condition, because from , the course of things the Clergy never receive the full value of their tithe, and therefore the dif ference between that full value and the actual receipt goes every year to augment the capital of the farmer, and the food of the labourer. " What discouragement to' agriculture then ought tithes to offer, and what, in tact, do they offer? Are the tenants on-the ti..!e-free land better off than on those that pay tithe ? There is a tithe-free estate close to my parish, which I believe is one of the worst cultivated, and I know has; had more broken te nants upon it within the last eight years than any estate in the hundred. The English peasant is as well off as the Scotch.— England, where tithe is strict, is as well cultivated as Scotland, Where there is none. The peasantry of the . Canton of Berne, whose freedom from bigotry is quoted in the 44 Remarks" with such pleasure, were always very wealthy, and yet before the French Revolution they paid tithe, in its worst form, as a tax to the State. Sicily was subject to a tithe, so regulated by the Leges Gelonicre, that it was impossible for the farmer to with, hold a grain, and yet Sicily' was the granary of Rome. The te= nant, I believe, is the last person to sufter by the tithe : its in fluence is felt by the landlord, according to Adara Smith, and by the consumer, according . to Rieardo. 4 Taxes on the pro duce of land,' says Dr. Smith, are in reality taxes upon rent ; and though. they may be originally advanced by the farmer, are finally . paid by the landlord." It appears,' say the Edin burgh Reviewers, that in every state of society, whether rents are high or low, and whether they are paid in kind or in mo ' ney, the charge of the tithes is defrayed entirely, by the con ' sumers of raw produce;" vol. xxxiv. Which is right, or .which is wrong, 1 have not skill to determine ; but 1 am sure that none of them have a right to be exempted from the pay ment of a revenue which belongs to the church by the title co . - eval with our existence as a nation." THE FALMOUTH PACKETS. (FROM THE CORNWALL, GAZETTE.) The following letter from the Earl of LIVERi)OOL, ad. dressed to the Members of this Bor'ough, hi answer to a Me morial from the Mayor, Burgesses, &c. forwarded to his Lordship by Sir Hussey Vivian, has been' received by J. F. Bennallack, Esq. Mayor, and is, we think, decisive as to the non-removal of the Packets : " Walmer Castle, Oct. 25, 1822. " GENTLEMEN,-1 have this morning received the favour of your letter, respecting the report of the intended removal of the Packets from lalmouth to some other Port, and transmit ting a Memorial from the Mayor, Burgesses, and other Inha bitants of the Borongli,and Town of Truro, and parts adjacent, on the same subject. " It has been some time under the consideration of his Ma jesty's Government, whether it would not be expedient to transfer the West India and Mediterranean Packets from the Post Office to the Aduiiralty, and I believe this measure will lie adopted. " 1 am not aware how far the Admiralty will deem it expe dient to make any alteration in the station of the vessels which will in such case sail with the mail : but I can assure you, that no arrangement will be made, which does not rest exclusively upon the advantage of the public 'service,- combined with a due attention to economy. " I have the honour to be, Gentlenten, " Your very faithful humble servant, " LIVERPOOL. " To Sir Hussey Vivian, and Lieut.-Col. Gosset.'" r 11t At_ I The following account is extracted from a Liver. pool Paper : " LIVERPOOL, 2.—By the Hyperion, Gardner, from New Orleans, arrived at this' port on Wednesday last, came passenger, Captain Langetlic, of the fine Belgian ship Pre voyante, of Antwerp. The Prevoyante_ was on the 14th o f July, When off the Colorados, boarded by a small privateer schooner, the crew of which took possession of the ship, ran her in with the land, and came to an anchor, when an indiscrimi nate plunder of the cargo, and of the effects of the master and crew, immediately commenced. The crew were severely beaten to extert a confession of what money there might be on board; and the mate was hung by the neck three several times, until he had lost all appearance of life. •On coming to his senses, he was thrown overboard, with the grindstone round his neck, and when nearly drowned withdrawn from the water. One man was most barbarously murdered, and the Captain's son has since died of a wound he received. From this day the pirates compelled the crew of the Prevoyante to go into small craft, in which the cargo was sent to Havannah on the 14th of August. The ship being plundered of every thing with the exception of some gin and oil, the pirates set fire to and destroyed her. On the 19th of the same month, the crew of the Prevoyante were put on board a small sloop; and ordered, sander threats of mur der, to proceed to Europe. In this vessel they reached N ew Orleans, nearly naked, on the 10th of, September, where they were humanely treated. , " Most of the crew remained in America; and to Captain Gardner of the Hyperion, who brought the rest to thi s p or t, too much praise cannot be given for his attention to them bn the voyage." Tite - following was posted yesterday at Lloyd's : " Admiralty. Office, Nov. 2, 1822. " Sen—Having laid before my Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty your letter - Of yesterday's date, transmitting one from the merchants concerned in the trade of the British settlement of HonduraS, and requesting that a convoy may be appointed for the protection of the vessels which may be ready to sail from Honduras the 14th January next, through the Gulf of Florida, I am commanded by their Lordships to acquaint you that they have transmitted copies of your letter, and its indosure , to,the Admiral commanding on the West India station, and directed him to give such protection as may be deemed necessary to those vessels. -" Lam, Sir, your very obedient Servant, (Signed) JOHN BARROW'. " To John Young, Esq., Agent for the British Settlement of Honduras, - Upper Gower-street." The following account , of protection afforded to British commerce by the Americans was posted at Lloyd's on Saturday : " The Friendship, M'lver, from St. Jago de Cuba, arrived in the river on Thursday. She fell ari with the Peacock, Ame rican sloop of war, off Cape Antonio, about 26th 'of August, which gave her protection for two days, shortening sail, and carrying a light. Saw no British ship of war in that quarter ; and when off the Matanzas was boarded by a pirate." It is reported that the owners of the Friend ship, and the underwriters concerned, intend to testify their approbation of American liberality, in - protecting the trade of all nations, by making a present to the Captain of the Peacock. The following account, extracted froni the Jamaica Gazette, shows the disposition of the British naval force between the Bth of May and Ist of August:— SAILINGS FROM PORT ROYAL, JAMAICA. May 8, his Majesty's ship Argus, for Havannah and Halifax. May 23, Icarus, for Barbadocs; and Carnation, for Cam peachy and Vera Crux, with two vessels in company. June 14, Scout, Havannah, with two vessels in company : and Tyne, kr St. Jago de Cuba. June 20, Bustard, for Nassau and BarbaCoes. July 9, Tamar, for,Campeachy. July 12, Falmouth, for Chagre, with two vessels in company. July 14, Sybille, for Santa Martha and Carthagena, with three vessels in *company. Aug. I, Tyne; for Havannah, with a few ships in company. ' FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. CONSTANTINOPLE, SEPT. 27.—We have no re- cent news from the fleet or from the Morel. The Government has issued a new gold coin. Supposing it at nineteen-carats line, which is the standard of the half mahmudie, which is worth twelve and a half piastres, and weighs three fourths of a drachm, the weight is diminished only 20 per cent. the new coin weighing half a drachm, and being issued at ten piastres. The three Genoese ships which had received their certificates of registry from Odessa, have at length, after numberless difficulties, ob tained permission to continue their voyage to the Black Sea. The Swedish Ambassador here, when be ob tained the same permission for the ships of his nation, • consented that the ships on their return should be bound to sell their cargoes of grain . to the Government if it stood in need of them. Now, one of them has been back here above a /month, and cannot obtain any 'decision whether the Porte will keep the wheat, or permit it to sail elsewhere with it. Under such circum stances.the Swedes will scarcely obtain any more freights, and their right 'to .navigate the Black Sea is not likely to be of much advantage to them.. VIENNA, OCT. 20.—The Ninth Anniversary of the glorious, Battle of Leipsic was celebrated the day before yesterday by the garrison of this city, in the manner prescribed by his Majesty on former occasions. At the close of the Hungarian National Synod, on the 16th inst. the Secretaries read the very long Decree drawn up in the latter Sitting respecting the depravation of morals in the present times; this Decree is divided into four parts. 1. The sources of this corruption. 2. On the measures to be adopted to check it. 3. On the education of youth. 4. On the discipline of the' Secular Clergy. The discipline of the regular Clergy was discussed in the previous Sittings, and the Decree of the Synod on that , subject unanimously approved. MILAN; OCT. 16.—His Majesty the Emperor of Austria has been pleased to revoke the Decree of the 12th August last, r'elative to the transit of goods through the kingdom of Lombardy and Venice, and has replaced every thing on the same footing that it was before. The motives for-this beneficial determination of his Majesty Were, on- the one hand, a regard for the declared -wishes of the people of the Milanese, and, on the other, the • new road made by the Sardinian Government in Piedmont, which leads close by the frontiers of Lombardy to Lower Italy, and by which the receipts of the . Customs in Lom hardy were greatly diminished. COLOGNE, OCT. 27.--The Magistrates of the town of Neuss_ have announced in the public prints that,. in consequence of a report of a pre tended miracle in the Church at Zons, thousands of persons have _come to that town to see this miracle, either from mere curiosity, or from reli gious Motives ; the Grand Vicar of Aix-la-Cha pelle has, therefore, ordered the- image of the Holy Virgin to be rern?ved from . that Church, the crown of that image having been stated to emit small flames, -according to the accounts spread by persons, the dupes of their own imagi nation, and by others who wished to sport with the public credulity.—( _Frankfort Pipers, Oc tober. 28.) NUREMBURG, OCT. 24.-We have received from Warsaw the positive information, that the . - ...a... as A . 1.1 aa • which was to have fallen back into the interior of the empire, had received orders to 'retain its pre sent position. It is also observed that the new winter quarters of the Southern Army are very much concentrated, and that the troops are dis tributed in such a manner that they may be united .at a very short notice, if the Turkish army on the right bank of the Danube should make any movement indicative of hostile intentions.— Nurentburg Correspondent to Oct. 27.) VIENNA, OCT. 21.—Iiletalliques 8G 27-32; Bank Shares, 936.—(Austrian Observer, Oct. 28.) -VIENNA OCT. 17.--On the 15tH the Session of the States of Lower Zustria was opened in the usual form. Before the departure of the Emperor for Verona, a Deputation from the Assembly of the States had the honour to wait upon his Ma jesty, and to receive from his own hands the proposals and demands (posiztlata), which are the subjects of the deliberation of the Assembly. The Synod of Presburgh was to be closed yesterday. The Resolutions of this. Ecclesiastical Assembly will be laid be fore the Emperor, as King of Hungary, for his sanction, and submitted to his Holiness the Pope for his approbation. It is said that the Synod, by one'of its Decrees, has resolved unanimously that the Jesuits shall be recalled, and the-educa tion of youth again entrusted to them. BRUSSELS, OCT. 31.--His Excellency Baron Maureuil, Ambassador from the King of France to our Sovereign, ar rived here yesterday morning from Paris. The second -Chamber of the *fates General has approved the Answer drawn up by the Committee to his Majesty's Speech, on opening the Session. One Member only disapproved of the Address, because he thought that in speaking to the King it was proper to say always "your Majesty," and that it was not allowable to say " Sire, you will please ;" this latter ex pression, in his opinion, being less respectful. We hear. from Antwerp that orders had been received at the Athenmum in that city, according to which, the instructions arc to be given in the language of the country, from the com mencement of 1823 ; and those who are not able to comply with this condition, shall be replaced by others. A similar order has been sent to the Athenmum at Bruges. PORTUGAL. COATES, OCTOBER 12. The Secretary read a statement from the Minister of Justice relative to the clandestine, departure of seven of the Deputies from Brazil, who had gone on board the Marlborough packet, Capt. Bull. The names of the seven deputies who aloe stated to have left their homes on the night of the sth of October, are— Antonio Carlos Robeiro de Andrada, Jose Ricardo da Costa Aguiar, Francisco AntoniO_Bueno, and Father Feijo, deputies from the province of St. Paulo ; and Jose Lino Coutinho Cy priano Jose Barata de Almeida, and Father Francisco Agos tinho Gomes, froni Bahia. [Three of the above names are among the signatures to the protest dated Falmouth, Oct. 22, which was inserted in The Sun of yesterday.] OCTOBER 14. The commander of a Portuguese brigantine, from Santos in 66 days, stated that the inhabitants of the province of San Paulo were divided in their political opinion : the majority were attached to the constitutional system, and to the General Cortes and the King, but that they wished to obey the Prince Royal as Regent, as far as could be done consistently with their principles ; they disliked the Ministers of Rio, whom they sus pected of promoting disunion. The Provisional Government had sent emissaries to Rio, in consequence of which orders came to Santos, in June, to collect troops, and march to St. Paulo, to compel the Governor to execute the orders and de crees of his Royal Highness. Two hundred troops of the line immediately marched, but being met, by WO militia and pea sants from St. Paulo, they retired without any action. The want of Portuguese troops was much lamented at St. Paulo. None of the. Europeans had suffered any molestetion at St. THE SUN. SOLEM QUIS DICERE FALSU!►I dIUDEAr LONDON, TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1822. [Extract,ofa Private Letter from Paris, Nov. 2, halj-past three o'clock. " FROM THE CONGRESS.—There will be no hostile measures taken against Spain ; all that will be done regarding that Power will be en- ti rely Diplomatic. FRENCH FUNDS.-NOV. 2. Five per Cents 93 f. 10 c. Spanish 5 per Cent. 694. We have received German Papers to the 28th October, Brussels and Dutch Journals to the 3d instant, Lisbon Papers to the 27th ult. Satur day having been All Souls Day, no Papers were published in Paris ; and consequently none can be expected to-day. There is intelligence from Constantinople to the 27th September, but the writer knowing well the disasters which had befallen both the land and naval forces of the Porte, in the Morea, and between Negropont and Andros, contents him self on that subject with the mere assertion, that there had been " no recent news from the fleet or from the Morea I" Previous advice! from Con stantinople have proved that the news of the de struction of CHPURSCIIID'S army had reached that capital. There is in the present intelligence no attempt to deny the signal discomfiture which it had experienced ; and the silence of the Mus sulmans, therefore, and of their political advo cates in Austria, is equivalent to an official ac knowledgment of , the brilliant successes which the Greeks have obtained over them. The intelligence respecting the Russian armies strongly corroborates the opinion that the Em peror ALEXANDER has resumed his intention of invading Turkey. The Western Army, which was to have retired into the interior of the Em pire, has been ordered to retain its present position ; and the winter quarters of the Ar m of the South have been so concentrated as t ° able to unite at a very short notice. to the A Jamaica Mail arrived this morning 17th of September. The following are eztpacts The paper (From the Royal Gazette, of Sept.l 4 .l By the Churt froNn Cuba, relar files of Havannah Pap to the 12th ult. have been received. e° contains the following statement, which shows that the Pat that tls are within. a few miles of the Moro of that port; Spanish brig Buena Ventura, in 25 days from 13altimore, is_ e fired at by a small open boat only three leagues fro m Moro, but after the brig fired at the Pirate, she made off. [Extract of a Letter from the Havannah, dated 15th /t/t•irit The Tyne 'and Iphigenia are arrived ; but if you have Se any thing important by the convoy of the former, it run s risk, as she has abandoned the vessels, and not one has aPP ea ; on the _ ed. The fleet that sailed under the convoy of the Tyne ult., it will be remembered, was numerous, amongst which throe several vessels bound to the Havannah, of great interest to tn e Merchants and Underwriters of this City. uon We learn by the Adeline that Gen. MonAr.rs' exr d i made its appearance off the Bar of Maraybo on the 29th 11.1; but that no engagement had taken place. The exPe diti o which stood for the Cape the following day took four 0 of that daate canoes with Indians on board. o i [Extract of a Letter from Mexico, Jug' r " No doubt you have heard of our Ea'Pei) having been crowned, , but I can assure you little enthusiasm, as we all found ourselves as is t , ° o . nished, as though a vision passed over us. . 4. a popular movement occurred as was exPe cte .1 s . through the Congress and the known Liber""tiee The pomp was very great, notwithstanding t 0 want of money, there not being sufficien t eve t' to pay the troops. We have here numerous „ n lss ties, so much so that it is my opinion, tha t . 1 . 0 1 immediate strong measures are taken, this t. beau° country will become a prey to anarchy. has hoisted his standard at the head of 1 0 , 0° ' - : and proclaimed the Republic; . and from h e -c soldiers and officers desert to unite w ith 1111(4 owing to his being a man much esteem e d ' has refused all honours and military gra des ' in er daring that his only recompense is tha t of see t 5 his country free. These generous s entirl'e pr , caused his arrest and imprisonment ; bu t he tunately escaped, and has arrived at 13e,,3111 „. 0 , Orders have been issued for troops to mar"r tea mediately against him, as he has already °tl it• the division of GANTAJION, which opp ose- b CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY ELECTIOS• s has • The SPEAKER of the HOUSE of C01m°5.4 t been under the necessity of terminating abruptly his ,:i Cambridge, having ascertained that he could not chatrder seat and continue Speaker without violating an an cient o oe' of the House, which is further supported by a mode rns ae dent. His success was considered as certain ; an d it i i s .ti ll ec n t'vr , stood that he will offer himself at the next General '''vvo." when the Parliamentary rule above-mentioned will " anydifficulty.—The Candidates who remain are Lord 11° 50 f Mr. IL GRANT, Mr ? SCARLEIf, and Mr. BANK.I:st ,0h the Member for Corfe Castle. It is understood that the —1:05 first are in favour of further concessions to the Cathicols, so that Mr. BANKER adopts the opinions of his father- Cathie suc ceeds now must consider hi`P-0- as possessing the honour by a very uncertain tcnnre• ~S : r e • mention has been made of Mr. GOULDURN, the' Irish naLr tary ; but the lateness of his application must place h'uhe gill such great disadvantages, that we can scarcely stilW°ss place Make any serious effort. —We have inserted in arw the h r ,' s of this day the SPEAKER'S Letter, addressed to the 1‘ 1611 " - a iffi• the Senate, expressing his regret at being co mpelled , $ t hat culty merely formal, to resign the triumph, if i t degrve name, which certainly awaited him. A Private Letter from New York, 01 t-e n o r- October, states—" That from the present 314 e elf ance, the firstiSenate of- this State under the 13 of Constitution will be composed alinost entireliwe tion s fre d new members ; and in all the nomina have h yet seen, there is but one gentleman 11 1 bat w o is a member of the present Senate, 31 C b of two who have ever held seats in that branc h the Legislature." , f i n . The Hon. Sir HENRY WELLEiLEY 3 D it appointed to succeed the Marquis 0f. ‘7 . 1 ", °: ,.:, -,°' DE arriv an d P al ,„, s , cg e e d sos a n‘ t & F uh r oo o ur g sse m Tb. o .ta. r c e k o i inoinsFrsi Royal a d t a t y, dr u ai y t i l o g. f a h I C : ( . ." 4 5 :1 5 i LI) W k the li l a Nr t i - Y ND a s.o s Ambassador ß,Nov.3._ ir to ,h t e h : e D C u kouert of v i e..- 13 1 ; 65 Prin too .d airin morning .visit to Lady SYDNEY and Mi ss T°‘l o ' ont the aftern the END at the Round Tower. In the DucheSs of GLOUCESTER, accompanied 133gshot Duke of CAMBRI DGE , left Frogmor e for 8a,...00 Park. The Duke of CAMBRIDGE retur rned,,„o, B 4 Bagshot on Sunday, and accompanied the:l3e cess AUGUSTA to the new Parish Chur°*, tool‘ R ev. J. GOSSET preached the Sermon.,. an a l oth his text from the 6th chap. Daniel, god left verse. In the afternoon, his Royal I.lig Frogmore for Bagshot. The Princess MIGvsTA leaVes Frogmore this day fOr Londo n. Duk e e On Sunday evening, .at six. o'clock / of YORK arrived in town from Chevethl near Newmarket. Dukeesterda o y f mcoAriunninugl,oaotE arriveda a quarter tot tent t i i'e after Palace Bing the r Palace at Pimlico, from Bagshot. s Yesterday noon his Royal Highness left town Or Bushy' on o cr• a visit to the Duke and Duchess of CAltro•roS A near connexion of the -Duke of V iv i / i f ; Grac e has, it as, tis said, received a letter from l e d fool) whiCh states, that he is perfectly rec" ve nev er 11 " the pains in his head, and that he "j s t h than at his life in the enjoyment of better.llea-- iL present. By the death of the. Earl of IVl °l:N'rc4 s: lllltEatice vacancy has occurred in the Irish gepre he Peerage. cannot i°" f o rroitY The Cambridge University Elect brought on for nearly three wee ks, i" c : f r' s ixte to its statutes. There are up wardsen hundred electors. C` Nina Itz The to ,_ 6 Y th e , grea the 8P d; 1 t hat & • 14 t 7t4c'L'eled fc 1 11: 4"ii ti alia fe lt it s ha t ' t to °4 4 'Y -e "" A t S Peal t 'nk th e t j i c l ' tie6de, the duti s " I t 11%! of of a te P el)ti o , rni zi4 as tc ditty co CO; At a Al 15r °4l otin 1 '404 % i! • l'hat c 't s ' ttoi taty Tliat nt %uPpo must has T hat t '' ',"cY in ' 4l ' of v Th e tai ns 14 Paulo, nor had any thing of consequence been done against them at Santos. OCTOBER, 24. M. Soares de Aired° read a plan for the establishment of a free port at Lisbon, which is proposed by the Committee of Commerce.—To be read a second time in another sitting. OcropEu 25. The Captain of the Portuguese brigantine, the Papette de Ceara, in 66 days from 111aranham, states, that the greatest tranquillity prevailed in that province which firmly adhered to Portugal, and would not obey the orders of the Government of Rio ; that they, however, wished for troops from Portugal, and intended to draw up a petition to that effect. Don Francisco Blaxhniliano de Sousa, commander of the squadron which re turned from Rio Janeiro, is to be tried by a new Court-martial. The Cortes have been engaged in several sittings with the organization of the provincial tribunals. SPAIN. [From la Ruche d' Aquitaine.] We can vouch for the authority of the following fact : " Madame the Countess (Charles) O'Donnell was on her way to France with her three children, when an armed forcti entered her chamber on the 19th of lastmonth, at eleven o'clock in the evening. After they had pointed their bayonets at her breast, these brigands gave loose to the most atrocious out-, rages ; they then hound her, and compelled hei to return to Penafiele, where both herself and children were detiined. She was furnished with regular passports, and intended to rejoin her husband at Bayonne ; but she no longer feels any hope of seeing him again." [Extract of a letter front Bayonne, dated the 20th of October.] t°lt is certain that Quesada, has returned to Navarre with a body of 1,500 infantry, but few cavalry, as continual move ments and incessant fatigues have occasioned the loss of many horses:. which accompanied him to Catalonia. He has, how ever, had the good fortune of capturing no less than 250 Con stitutionalists in his route. " General O'Donnell, who is still here, has received his de finitive powers from the Regency of Urgel. He is really, now about to depart, and reckons that he shall have under his com mand'an army of Men, so as to enable him to signalise his entering the held by some splendid. feat. Report adds, that Arredondo has also had an engagement with Espinosa in the vicinity of Puente de La Reyna, not far distant from Pampe luna, and that the latter was forced to seek his safety there, by shutting himself up in the city. It appears that this forced re treat had caused some disturbances in the place; so that, besides the arrest of the Political Chief, together with the Municipal Body, there were twenty-five prisoners of the Army of the Faith put to death. Quesada, it is added, had the greatest di,fficulty, on the receipt of this intelligence, in preventing his soldiers from shooting their prisoners in turn. General -, who had been sent on an embassy to Paris from Urgel, has returned here upon his route to the Regency of Catalonia. GUNPOWDER PLoT.—Holiday at the Bank, Exchequer, East India and South Sea Houses. PRICE OF FOREIGN STOCKS IN LONDON, Nov. 4. French Five per Cents. 93 25. Six per Cents. 82. .1 Five per Cents. (Metallic) 83. Ditto New 88a. .1 Five per Cent. Bonds, 81. Neapolitan I. Scrip, 82i. Austrian , Five per Cents. (Metallic) 88. { Five per Cent. Bonds, 811. Spanish New Ditto, 69g. Scrip, 4 premium. c Five per Cent. Bonds, 89. Prussian 1 Ditto New, 89i. Five per Cent. Bonds, 914. 113 i. {Old Bonds, 00. Colombian Six per Cent. Bonds, 84 Ditto Scrip, 83. Peruvian New Loan, 86. Bank Shares 1:21 10s. Six per Cent. 92-981. American Five per Cent. 961. Three per Cent. 6.i. Russian Danish Chili PRICE OF IRISH STOCK, Nov. 2. Bank Stock 2531 Grand Canal Loan,•4 p.ct. Gov. Deb. 3:1; per cent.... 951; 5 —Ditto 3 per cent. ... 67 Stock, 31 per ct 92g i Ditto Stock ll Gov. Deb. 4 per cent...... 31 Royal Canal Stock 2oi Gov. Deb. 5 per cent 7ig Wide-street Cert. U per ct. - -.--Stock, 5 per cent 2 3 E Do. Deb. with Gov. Sec.... w.easury bins, a per vent. —:- Pipe Water lThcb. a per Ct. City Debentures, 5 per - Do. cent. - Office Govt. Sec. Lying in Hospital 4 per ct. 5 per cent. Exchange on London, Nov. 1,7 H. HIGH WATER AT LONDOP Morning, 51 minutes after 7. I BRIDGE TO-MORROW?, Evening, 22 minutes after 3.