The Sun. — London, England, 1853-02-16 00:00:00

THE RENCH EMPIRE. ;%. We have received the Paris papers of yesterday. they all contain long, descriptions of the opening of the Legislative. Chamber ; but as the speech of the Emperor, which we gave yesterday, could be the °III Y point of interest to the English reader, it is unnecessary to make any more extracts further than to state that on the arrival of the Empress every one rose to receive her. Her Majesty wore a ruby-coloured dress, and had on a w hit e s ilk bon net trimm e d with white marabouts. She was re ceived with loud acclamations, which continued P i ll' she had taken her seat. Immediately after the Empress had taken her place, the officers of Eraperor's household entered and took up their Vplaces in the embrasure of the window behind the ir cille• An assistant master of the ceremonies, as uefore, announced " The Emperor," the whole of the Persons still remaininrstanding to receive him. - 1 ?-18 Majesty wore the uniform of a general of divi sion with the grand cordon of the Legion of Honour, , a ricl having th o s i mple cross of • the Legion and the try medal on hi s b reas t. H e t oo k his place in ,ont of the throne, having on his right Prince erorne Napol eon in the uniform of marshal ? and ' t- rinee Nap o l eon i n that of a genera l o f di vis i on . 'n the left of this latter was Prince Lucien, in his b~enne of S ena t or. Hi s M a j es t y th en , h av i ng his Place on the throne, said, "Gentlemen, seated." This being done, sPeech, his Majesty read the At the close of the speech the oath of fidelity was administered in due form to the senators and depu ties present. The form of the oath was this—" I g reat ob e di ence to the Constitution and f i del i ty to a e 'emperor." His Imperial Highness the Prince . er mle took the oath. The Ministers and the Pre- Zulent of the Council of State also took the oath ar e " th e Er9peror. The fo t i s i'elvise took the oath in presence of Majesty, Minist er o f S tate, and the M i n i ster of Justice : i' 2 l.• de Royer, Procureur-General of the Court of ti ° ll ; toutand Procureur-General of the Perial C ourt o f P ar i s ;M . L e B aume, M . L e• fir,) and. M. Cordoen, Procureurs-General of the the erg Courts of Agen, Nancy, and Orleans. At meeting of the Legislative Body yesterday, the resident announced that he had received from tha po hr uhir a letter conceived in terms so improper • -no considered it his duty to abstain froni read it/olgit in public. "M. Bouhir," he said, "is free give in hi s res i gnat i on, b ut i t i s not perm i tted that he should protest against the will of the nation abd the Constitution." a3e Bouhir exc l a i me d aga i ns t th e i n t erpre t at i on gybed to his w or d s , b u t th e P res id en t or d ere d to be sil en t, an d d ec l are d t h at if d ur i ng the „, lt fifteen days he had not taken the oath re 111i,ted by th e C onstitution he should be considered having resigned. After this incident the Assembly rose. c ompany has be en or ganised in Paris t o es 4. ' 4lB ll a line of screw - s t eamers i mme di a t e l y be tween Bordeaux, Havre, Dieppe, and Rouen. The 11 / 8 8 els will be a b ou t 400 t ons an d 100-h orse power each. N"valuable painting by Poussin, for many years otrensuspected, has been found at the church jet Dame de Lamballe (Mayenne). The sub- Ple the " Descent from the Cross." By a sim operation the picture has been restored to a good couditi 30 ,on, and it is said to be w or th a t l eas t o-'ou francs. sid „, - 11 1e rep or t of the committee appointed to con er_, the "f us i on " o f th e E as t ern an d t h e Nor truY railroads, just about to be published, is T ared t o b e f avourable to that project. 110 lifoniteur of this morning states, that a few th e Ys b a g° , during a debate in the First Chamber of russian Parliament, M. Thadden-Triglaff was lecZt,ing some expressions from the Emperor Napo a a ddress on the announcement of his intended lliar r i a • L ite ge, when the (Prussian) Minister of the agar,rl° ascended th e t r ib une , an d p ro t es t e d tinst ed the name of a friendly sovereign being + 11 P in th • discussions . M. Triglaff re .zacted their froTll,, e Aroniteur mentioned. yesterday that a letter m . ',t l le Emperor of Russia had been delivered by B elt ue Xisseleff to the Emperor of the French. te r e curiosity is manifested as to the precise na tio': who at communication. It is described (by e Profess to know something of what passes at th e c 'clie nt rt) as a letter of merely formal r coinpli -Pe the x n , 'Ply to on e announc ing the marriage of - ro of th e E m , and, moreover, that in returna bust Potersbu P f e ss is about to be forwarded to St. His E x ' pas a present to the Czar. Londo n ellelle"' Lord Cowley has left Paris for At the Institute yesterday Lord Brougham was about h is , t° c ouunenee his paper on light, and had all the c i i;gebr a i ca l and geometrical figures prepared on lack board, when, learning that there was a Pre lack of business, in consequence of the con tea election. of a member, and a secret committee i„ the reon, he decided on adjourning the further read- Wg of th e paper until his return to Paris. Lord —43ll gllam left Paris this morning for London. cn l t appears that the cold weather which has lately ztanien ce d i n Paris is general throughout the 011 ntry an d private letters from Beziers state that ve getation,, there is completely checked. Bourse l ie opened yesterday with every ap pearance o f a further rise in the price of public se and the Three per Cents., which were first c a a jn l at 60f. 25c , rose to 80f. 40c. Some large t0. 1 .. ,- 8 were made . snbsequently, it was said by cer tc:.;. extensive speculators, who determined to th'lse, the profits they had made by purchasing at e e „,'°West rates of last week, and the Three per t h •qua. fell to 79f. 85c., and closed at 79f. 90c. for A 1 4 31 ,0 14 of the month. A report circulated of a a n d_' e r, reduction of the interest upon the Fo.ur -I)taalf per Cents. added to the depression. -I , our -and-a Half per Cents. closed at 105 f. 60c. to„ '"‘ Railway shares closed at 1,0211. 25c. ; 866; en ) 9 80 f. ; Havre, 480 f. • Great Northern, t y ;;" ; Paris and Strasburg, 782 f. 50c. ; Paris and - 4 -4 1 880 f. • Western of France, 710 f. ; Bordeaux Cette, siof. ; Caen and Cherbourg, 608 f. 75c. ; hares of the Bank of Credit Mobilier, 760 f. SPAIN. ti 41 Madrid, on the 10th, the result of 307 dee d:4Ellms known. The number of the Ministerial ba!)llties was 244, that of the Moderate Opposition illb ers 44, and that of the Progresista Opposi -ort T ° 4 111 Y 42 elections remain undecided. Th r e Thre e p er C ents, were done at 41 ; the New C o Per Cents, at 22 15-16 ; the Debt of the First at 10 ; and that of the Second at s#. tilhlll-E INSURRECTION IN MILAN. e Milan Gazette publishes the following pro bar -41'43u addressed to the inhabitants of the L0m d0..17- kiss"v enetian. kingdom the night of the 6th of this month, a band of krants armenfwith stilettos, [traitorously attacked , 41 officers and soldiers in th streets of the city of or legs of whom have died, and 54 have been-more hor r - „ Ils seriously wounded. Penetrated with the deepest lta -is a gainst the most infamous of all crimes—salaried itfrZisination--I am obliged to take severe measures fo°,llst the city of Milan , and consequently, in con thjitY With my proclamation of the 9th of July, 1851, I ~s 48 follows :-1. The city of Milan is subjected to ltith - ' ° „ s t rigorous state of siege, which shall be enforced 2, A t , . its consequences, and with extreme severity.— cie,;"'" strangers whose conduct is open to . suspi rmsth all be expelled from the city of tea ° City of Milan shall provide for the main of a th -e ° of the families of the killed, and for that likati,lswonnded during their lifetime.-4. Until the sllnlf-;4l,_and abettors of the crimes committed . t. h . ve been arrested and punished, the city of Milan ton cave % II of m ilan, e lo ole l xtra p s a l y if to the whole of the garri ered considerably during t c' e tt e Neverthe/e s ss, persons irt_oriously . devoted Government shall be exempted from this contri blltion l'etve to Whatever class they may belong.-5. I re -1%1,2° myself the right of inflicting upon the ..e c s ity an of furta according to the result of my y Penalty or contribution it may have . justly In order to tranquillise all the inhabitants,. I . tikrbisn to that public tranquillity has not been dm 4 6 :LI any other part of the kingdom. 411 8 Civil and Military Governor-General of the Lom bardo -Venetian Kingdom, "Field-Marshal RADETZKY. Verona, Feb. 9." e th l3 an order of the police of Milan yen se De theatres are provisionally closed. The . waiter, of the Bth all Nets executed consist of two join' ers, a ey_ Th- D°l. te, r, a typefounder, a hatter, and a journey- the --'ll. butcher. There being no gibbet ready, Dort ri,zr was shot instead of being hanged. t es of kre Ninione of Turin states that the ga , _ to - 4, 11 have been reopened. The police, accoreun g h -- 444 paper, are still making new arrests, and the e lat sll s are so full that the prisoners for debt have ell released to make room for the others. The als©r of Porta Tosa has been militarily occupied, 141 ', 8 ° the public edifices and the Principal houses. It:c` hundred soldiers are quartered in the Palazzo 411:4, and others in the alazziP d'Adda, Sornani, Ivlii, 4 l ce,enti. The proprietors of the houses before rerical the Paving had been taken up to make bar ,. `4eB with, have been ordered to get the streets haVelred at their own expense, as they ought to fe, °PPese the making of barricades, and in salted. the,,authorities. The gates are open from Lel % t ° ° P.m. Workmen living in town, but az o , n _ging to a.nufactories outside the gates, are Pro „ed to return later through certain gates, if tt44i'l:4ed with certificates from their masters, coun- A6,l_4'd by the proper military authorities. the p.'.legraphic dispatch from Milan of the 9th, in ~,,te_nnct Gazette, is as follows . .. 2 -- iiert-LL? most perfect tranquillity continues to reign " 4 ' l 14 the Prom'. es , The in" dignAtieu which the attempt has inspired being general, the punishment rapidly inflicted upon seven of the guilty has produced the most salutary effect. The Municipal and Provincial Council of Milan has sent in addresses of devotedness. The administration of Government goes on as usual." Letters from Novara of the 10th, in . the Opinione of Turin, state that all the refugees living in the communes adjoining the frontier of Lombardy have have been ordered to remove either to Vercelli or Casale, at their choice. The Vienna Gazette of the 12th publishes the contradiction addressed by the Government to the Presse, which had accused the , Trench Government of having fomented the disturbances at Milan. The Presse of the 10th contained an article in which it said clearly enough that the French Government had excited the outbreak. " That article ap peared," says the Gazette, "at a period when the Presse could not have yet received any intelligence from Milan, and the telegraphic dispatches in no way justified such an offensive supposition. It re sults from this state of things, that this monstrous accusation against a Government, on friendly terms with Austria, only had birth in the imagination of the editor of the Presse, who must be made to answer for it." MONTENEGRO. The New Prussian Gazette has a letter from Vienna, of the 10th, stating that very favourable accounts have been received of the mission of Count de Leinengen at Constantinople, relative to Mon tenegro. The writer says that the Divan had ac ceded to the propositions of Austria, and sent orders to Omer Pacha to suspend hostilities. A letter from Vienna of the 9th states, from Montenegro, that the Austrian corps of observa tion has taken up its position on the banks of the Enua. THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY Ei ITALY. The Questor (Director of Police) at Turin, in compliance with directions received from the Mi- nister of the Interior, has issued a notice, calling upon all the political emigrants now in that capital, to present themselves within two days before the police, to deliver up their old permis de sejour, and. receive new ones, in case they can prove their good conduct and sufficient means of livelihood. More over, no emigrant shall leave the commune in which he lives without a written permission. Any emigrant removing from one lodging to another in the same commune must inform the police of the fact 'within twenty-four hours. Transgressors of these rules are liable to arrest, and even to ex pulsion from the State. Similar precautions have been also adopted by the Questor of Genoa. In its sitting of the 11th the Piedmontese Chamber of Deputies concluded the discussion of the bill on the personal and furniture tax, and voted it by 79 votes to 47. It also voted, by a majority of 108 to 3, a bill authorising the Govern ment to levy 250 sailors for the royal navy. In the Senate, the bill for the issue of two millions of francs rents on the public debt, was passed by 43 votes to 6. Three bills were afterwards brought in, viz., Ist, for the better regulation of bills of exchange, and bills to order upon persons not con cerned in trade ; 3 dly, for the re-organization of the Chambers of Commerce ; 2dly, for the cession of certain dominial property to the town of Novara. The Ticini Gazette states that the Government of that canton has consented to pay a pension of about 1,500 f. each for three years to the Lombard Capuchins who have been expelled from their con vent. A similar pension is granted to the Sardi nian monks of the same convent. The Pope, on Candlemas-day (the 2d), made, according to usage, a solemn distribution of conse crated wax candles amongst different Sovereigns. The loly Father set apart one for her Majesty the Empress of the French, although he had not re ceived the definitive news of her accession. 1101 V TO "FIX" THE CABMEN. TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir,—While you are fighting the battle, which thou sands in this metropolis hope will end in a victory that will give them a mile ride in a cab for 6d., allow me to suggest in the meantime a very simple and inexpensive plan that will secure what has hitherto been an impossi bility, viz., paying only for the actual distance you are carried, at the present high rate of Bd. per mile. It re quires no ingenious .or complicated machine to record the revolutions of, the wheels, and will effectually prevent " cabby " attempting " tc4pdo a stranger or unprotected female ' by driving them a long way round instead of the shortest cut, or any of the numerous ways that they now impose on the public, lam quite willing to allow that frequently cabmen themselves do not know the dis tance they have driven, and in such cases an honest driver will be glad to have a certain rule for his fare to any part of London. It is this :—At every cabstand have a map of London—say twice the size of the one in Brad shaw—with the names of the streets, &c., very clearly printed : each stand is its own centre, or starting point, round which, on the map, a number of circles in red ink are to be described—the first with a radius of one mile, and a person going to any spot within that circle pays Bd. ; the second with a radius of a mile and a-half, to any spot between the first and second red ink lines ls., being considered a mile and a-half fare ; the third circle with a radius of two miles, 16d. fare ; and so on to any dis tance from the starting point. A double line three miles from the Post-office would show the distance for which back fare could be demanded after 8 p.m. These maps to be put up in a painted wooden frame, with a glass to protect them from wet or fingering, and placed against a wall or railings, as may be convenient; a small jet of gas with a shade, as at jewellers' shops, will enable a person to ascertain his fare by night as well as day. The waterman might earn a legitimate penny by explanations and showing the stranger that he was going in the right direction. Now, here is a cheap, effectual, and quick remedy for a great evil ; no act of Parliament or ponderous civic board to set in motion ; nothing wanted but a map in a frame that a few shillings will pay for, even if done in superior style. The cabdrivers, of course, will oppose it, and try and destroy the maps, but that can be easily stopped by the police. A practical friend, to whom I mentioned the subject, objected, that I took a straight line to measure my distances, instead of following the streets as a cab must do ; but I reply to this, that, although some will occasionally go to the very edge of a red line, and then get out to save the increased fare, others vill stop 200 or 300 yards short, especially within the first mile. Should that, however, be a valid objec tion, it is easily obviated by striking the circles at 7i or even 7 furlongs apart, instead of a, full mile, to allow forthe angles. The public do not want anything beyond what is fair to the cabdriver, but they do want to be carried a mile and a-half for a shilling, which they cannot at present get without incivility of some kind.. Let a stranger take a cab from Trafalgar-square to the Colliseum, he would be asked 2s. ; but might, by a show of determination, get off for is. 6d. By this plan he would see before he started , that it came within the shilling distance, and be saved the trouble of any alter cation. The whole cost for maps and gas cannot amount to much : but if there are no funds that can be applied to so desirable a purpose, I am sure there are thousands of gentlemen and ladies who will contribute their half crown with pleasure, as they would save it in the first week. Trusting that you will continue tho struggle unti fares aro brought down to 6d. per mile, and urge this plan, if you see nothing objectionable, I remain, Sir, your obedient servant, H. It. Feb. 14. SURREY BACHELORS' BALL.—We perceive that the splendid Hall of Commerce, and the suite of ante-rooms, have been placed at the disposal of the "Surrey Bache lors," whose annual ball will take place on next Thurs day, in aid of the funds of the Walworth Literary and Scientific Institution. The arrangements made by the stewards are such as must promote the comfort and in sure the approbation of the visitors. Weippert's• full band, including those eminent performers, Messrs. Bosisio, Baumann, Maycock, and Prospere, has been en gaged, and the services of Mr. Frampton secured as master of the ceremonies. It is to be hoped that the laudable object of the promoters of this festive meeting may again receive the liberal aid that has on former occasions rewarded their exertions ; and that the spa cious Hall of Commerce may on next Thursday be filled with the friends and patrons of literature, and the votaries of Terpsichore. —Sunday Times. AUSTRALIA.—A person, rejoicing in the name of Brice, last week visited Gainsboro, and issued a prolific supply of handbills, promising an exhibition in the old hall of a panorama of views in Australia, America, &c., several thousand feet in extent. On Friday evening the room was crowded, and the audience were treated to a sight of some very inferior views by means of a magic lantern, and a lecture on emigration to Australia, alike destitute of gramma r , r h etoric, and geography, (he took his audience across the Pacific and round Cape Horn to Australia) but at the same time containing some wholesome advice, which, however, by means of the newspapers and other sources, had long been patent to all the world. At the close, a series of views for the delectation of the juveniles was shown. This called up Mr. Davies, who loudly contended that Brice had not kept faith with tho public, not having exhibited what he had promised in his bills, and was therefore guilty of a fraud which ought to be exposed. Brice could not deny the " soft impeachment," but said he was only an agent--that the bills were stereotyped, but should be altered. This was a nice quarrel as it stood, but the lecturer adopted a novel mode of defence by stating that he had given 801. to Mechanics' institutions, and worse than all he had given half-a-crown to a Mercury correspondent to write him "a flaming paragraph ;" and on being questioned, said the transaction had taken place at Grantham. This state ment was transmitted to our correspondent at that place, and he remarks—" With regard to Brice, I never even saw him, nor had any communication with him, or any one in connection with him, or with any one on his be half, and had any consideration been offered to me I would have refused it, as I invariably have done such offers as calculated to destroy the independence neces sary to a newspaper writer." Mr. Brice says in his bills that his object is not to make money but to diffuse use ful information, and the above is a specimen of his powers' in that line, and seems to be of the Frenchman's opinion, that " nothing is so treacherous :Is figures except facts I" Stamford, Mercury. THE SHARE MABILETS. BRITISH RAILWAYS. RAILWAYS. Closing Prices this day. Business done this day. 29 - 30 6 t - 10 - 101 6i —64 d 22 - 22 3 • 2h (1 107 - 109 65. E -65 i 23 - 23 . , 17A - 18. CI 1 - - - ;cpi 8 - 9 5i -- 6 48 -- 13 13i 10 -- 76 4 - 84 j --78 155 - 60 76 - 78 Ad- A 28i- 29j 60 - 62 78i- 79i 41 - 45 118 - 120 108 -- 109 90i 911 6A -- 7 90 -- 95 13 —l4 p 791 -79 i 4a -- 4i d 2 d 15 16i , 9 - 94 104 a -- 1051 120 a -- 121 3 -- 3ap 91a -92 i 5 -- 4d 4 -- 3 d 11 -- 12 19 -- 21 30a -31 a 34 -- 3 d 79a[ 45 -- 47 I 49 -- 51 2 -- 34 3 i -- 34d' 2i - 38 - 56 --58 8 -- 81 2 -- 2i d 36 -- 37 64 -- 64 d 2i 2 1 id 41 - 4 d 8 84 3 4p 49i 50 98 100 63 65 67 69 70 80 ... —dad 18 20 9 10 14 15 Bk-- Bd' 20 -- 22 804 801 87 38 13 13. 4 441 2i - 2E 15 - 16 9 - 91 27 - 28 9 - 9i id- ip 71 73 71 7 (1, 2 d 6O —61 i .CE SHARE Aberdeen Ambg. Nottng. Bost & Eastn. Junet Birmg. Wolverh. Stour Valley Birkenhd. Lancsh. & Cheshire Junet. Do. Chesh. & Birk., £5O and £25 Cons. Do., £2O Bristol and Exeter Caledonian Chester & Holyhead Cork and Bandon Cork, Blackroek and Passage Dublin&Belfast June Dundee Perth&Aber deen Junction Do. New i East Anglian (£25 L and E. & L. &D.) Do. Do. (181. E.& H.) 11 Eastera Counties jj Eastern Union, Class A. (late E. U. Sh.) 8i Do., do all Do., B. and C East Lancashire all East & West Ind. Dk & Birming. June 100 Edinburgh & Glasgo w Edin. and Peeb' es 1007 Edin. Prth. &Dundee 1 100 ,Gsgow &S. Western 00 Great Northern Stk 100 Do., A. Stock 100 Do., B. Stock 100 Great Southern and Western (Ireland) Great Western Irish South-Eastern Lancaster & Carlisle Do., Thirds Laacash. & Yorkshire Do., Fifths Do., Wst. Riding Un Leeds Northern Liv.Crsby.&Sonthpt London & 8 1 1,6'-;:wall Loud. Tilb. & Sthend. Lond. Brigt. & S. Cst. London & N. Western Do., Fifths. Do. ,£lO Sh. M. &B. C London & S. Western Do., £5O Do., £4O Londerry.&Co!eraine Lndndrry. & Ennisk. Manch. Shef. &Lincln Do., Man.& Lin. Un Midland Do. Birming. & Derby Midland G. West. (Ir.) Do. Shares Newcastle & Carlisle Newmarket Do. Bury Extension Newp. Aberg. &lift& Newry & Enniskillen Newry, Warrenpoint, and Restrevor Norfolk Do., New Northn.Counties Un North Brltish North Devon, No. 1 Do., No. 2 Do., A Deferred Do., B Guaranteed North Staffo,dshire North Western N. & S. Westrn. June Oxford, Worcester, & Wolverhampton • Scottish Central Scottish Midland Shrewsbury & Birmg Do., L. & N. w es t, Guaranteed Stock Shrewsby. & Hereford Shrewsby. & Chester (Nor. W. Min.) Do. Halves do Do Do. Oswestly Shropshire / Union South Devon South Eastern South Wales S. Yorksh.River Dun Do. Stockton & Hartlepl Thames Haven Dock and Railway' Vale of Neath Waterfd. & Kilkenny Waterford& Limerick West Cornwall Wimbledon&Croydn Woodford ..... York Newctl.&Berw. Do. Extensions Do. G. N. E. Purchase York & N. Midland PREFERE Aberdeen... ..... Do., No. 2, 7 p. a Bris. & Ex. 4 p. c. St Do. 4 p. o. Shares Caledonian £lO Chester & Holyhead Guar. 5i per cent. Cork&Bandon 5a p. a. Dundee, Perth, and Aberdeen Junction E. Aug. (705.) 6 p. c. Do. (.£5), 7 per cent. Do. (£7l7s), 7. p ct. Eastern Counties Ex tension, 5 p. c. No.l Do., No. 2 Do., New 6 p. e. St Eastern Union Scrip Guar. 6 per cent East Lancash. 6 p. cts Edinb. Prth. & Dund Glasgow & S. Western Guar. 5 per cent Great Northn. 6 p. 0 Do. 5 p. 0., Redeem at 10 p. o. prem.., Gt.S outhn. do Westn. (Ireland) Eights Gt. Westn. (Burks & Hants Ex. 5 p. c.) Great Western, fixed 4. per cent Lan. & York. F. £2O Do., 6 p. 0., Stock London and Brighton Guaranteed 5 p. o Do. Pref. 5 p. c., St Do. Convertible, 5 p c., 1852 Do. New Guar. 6 p. c London &S. Western, Con. Thirds, Londonderry &Co* Shares Londndry. & Ennisk. i Shares Manch., Shet.,&Lin., 4 Shares, No. 1.... Do., Now, £lO Do., £6 Marypt. & Carl. 4 p. c. Do. 41, per cent....... D 0..... ...., ....... ..... Mid. Consol. 6 p.c . St. Do. Consol. Bristol & Erin. 6 per cent Do. Pref. 4i percent Norfolk Extension Do. Guar. 5. per ct Do. Waveney Valley 5 per cent North British North Staffordshire Oxford, Worcester, & Wolverh. £15,6p. c. Do. IShrewsbtuy & Birm New Guranteed Shrewsby. & Chestor Nor.W. (Min), 3 p.c. Do. 5 per cent. South Devon Do. New S. Eastern (Reading Ann.) f Os. 6d. S. Yorksh. 4p. e. Guar. Waterfd.&Kilk. 6p.c. York, Newcastle, and Berwick, 4 p. o. Pref Do York & N. Midland, H. & S. Purchase FORE: Antwrp. &Rotterdam Belgian Eastn. Janet. Charleroi & Erquelin Dijon and Besangon Dutch Rhenish East Indian ......... Do. Extension .....• Gt. Indian Peninsula Gd. Junct. of France Gt. Westn. of Canada Shares Lucca and Pistoja, 5 • per cent. pre? Luxembourg Do. Do. (Railway) Do. (Canal) Do. 6 p. cent. pref Lyons & Mediterran Madras Maria Antonia Do. Now Narnir & Liege (with interest Do. (cx interest) Northern of France Do. 20/. 3 p. c. Bds (tiny. B. &Am s. Shs.] Norwegian Truk. prof Paris and Lyons Paris and Orleans Paris and Rouen Paris and Strasbourg Paris Caen &Cherbrg. Quebec & Richmond Rouen and Havre Sambre and Meuse Do. 54 per cent. pref Southern of France Upper India Scrip_ West Flanders... Do. 5i per c. Pref.,, Western of France West. of Switzerland Now Zoti 166 - 108 I 16i 19 -- 20 •• • -- Par 6 -- 64 31 -- 3 3* -- 4 iP 1/ 111 -- 11 p p 14 -- 15 11- 18/ 3 3i 26 -- 128 1112 - 114 81 - 6.1 74xcl 104 —10 G P P 150 —152 Si - 41 10 M 11 13i - 13 •:i 9 - 10 11i - 111 P - 14 147 - 149 p 221 - 2 5- 2 - 21 107 - 109 25 - 26 1i - 1 i1) 11 - 113 17. E -- 17! lip 16 -- 17 par -- p 26 2G. 19 20 i d par _O3 - 105 ISi - 5i Par i p 11 11 d 1 2 13 131 1 1 2 —lid 6 —6 p p 2 p dis— p -7jxin6 4 —4xin it —lixin 1 —l6xin dis 8 9 P 2 — tip • • 8 - 8i 6 341 -- 3 4 374rj 14 - 14 8 - 9 15 -15 L 39. -40 i 381 -30 A 31 - 313 4 -41 p - p 19 -1 93 - 10 - 36 - p 4i - 5 d 71 - 2: 8i p 29i 6 i i I 66 51 f 794 9 i pm 101 9} 101 120 k 5 =a k LINES LEASED AT FIXED REV 11i 100 100 18 Leasing Compans, ILondon & N. West. IGt.Westn D 0......... Do ....... Do. L.&N.W, Caledon., Gt.Nrthrl. Gt. Wean New. & Berw. Y. &NAld Do D 0... IS. Eastern -- D 0..... Norfolk Do L. & N. W. & Midid. SteLton & Darlingt. E. Count. D 0......... Do I L. &NAV &Ln&Ark Do IGt Nord ln D0......._ Lancash & Yorksh. M.MClean Stockt. & Darlingt Do Closing Prig this day. 30 - 31 29i -34 Ia t - W . . . e . s . .t. n - . 31i 103 30 31] :d 29 30) :d 108 11( ) 53 54 I L 49 - 151 l 321 - 33! 113 - 11: i 56i - 27 - 2f ; 13 - 14 ,f - 24 19 -2( ) 24 - 2 3 - 34 Oi --- (, 1 V 1 64 - 46 - Pm - 153 - 152 ,• --- 1 Ad _ xd, ^— Jai Business this day. 11 10i Inn 311 2 xd 103 BATLWATIO, 'Paid, Bedford and Bletchley. Birm. & Coed. guarantee.... Do. withoutgr Birm. Wolv. & Dudley guar. Do.wtht guar. Buckghamsh. Clydesdale Jc. E. Lincoln gr. 6 per cent. Glstr.& Dn. Fr Hrtlpl. Dk. & Railway Hull & Selby Do. Shares. Do. Shares. Lon.&Greenw Do. Preference Lowestoft gr. 4 per cent. Do. 6 per ct. Manch. %tn and Matlock Middlesbro' Redear Midld.Bra,dfd. Northern and' Easternsp.c. Do. 6 per ct. Do. Fixedsp c Prest. & Wyre Do. Shares. Roystn.& Hit, Do. Shepth. S Shef.Roth.and Goole g. 5 p. c. S. Staffordsh. Wear Valleygr per cent Do IWilts&Somrstl MINES. 1 all Agua Fria lOs all Anglo Californian 4 -- p 10 2 Australasian — 2B p 20 5 Australia 1 all Australian Cordillera par 4 p 1 1 all Australian Freehold. par p 1 1 all Ave Maria - pa a. 1 all Baden (Gd. Duchy of) par * • p 1 1 all British Austrin. Gold 20 13.5 British Iron 7 9 35 24* Brazilian Imp. (issued at L 5 pm.) 34 44 30 all Do. Cocaes & Cuiaba n— 24 ' 20 15 Do. St. John Del Rey 29 —3O 1 * Carson's Creek • par 4 p 40 all Cobro Copper ••• 40* d 5 1 Colonial Gold 2-I,— 3 p. nu 14 Copiano St. all CopperMinersof Eng. ... 25 all Do. Preference 5 all English and Austin Copper Smeltg. Co 2 —l4 d 20 all General l4 154 ' 2 all Great Nugget Vein 3i —3lp , - 5A S all Great Polgooth l* —l4 p . 1 all Lake Bathurst a— d 1 all Liberty —B P 14 1 ' all Lond.&Cali:orn•Gokl. • Quartz Crush. Co — d 1 all. Mariqiita d * p „ 10 9 Mexican &S. Americ 54. 1 all New Granada 4 p ; 1 all Nouveau Monde l— 1 P I 2* 4 5 1 Port; Philip 1 —li p ' 2 • 1 all Quartz Rock par— p 50 all Rhymney Iron 2l —23 15 Do. New 30 104 Santiago de Cuba 64 7A• 1 ail South Australian par 12 p 10 7 Tin Croft ll 28* all United Mexican 7xd 64 1 ail Waller „.. 24 —21 p 1 all West Granada —4 P 1 all West Mariposa p 1 all Yuba — aP • la • JOINT-STOCK BANKS. 40 all Australasia B4 -- 85 84 a 50 all British N. American 20 2 Child. Bnk. of India, Australia, & China 4 14 3 100 25 Colonial. ... ••• 100 20 Commercial of Lon don — •. • 4 English Scottish and Australian l4 1A p 54 20 Ti Lond. Chart. Bk. o Australia . 44 43 p 11 8 50 20 London and County 50 10 London Joint Stock 100 20 Loud. & Westminster 100 35 NationalProv.ofEng. 20 10 Do. New — 50 22* National of Ireland . 7••• . 25 all. Oriental Bank of Corporation. 25 5 Do. New • •• • 100 25 Provincial of Ireland ..• 10 all Do. New 5 1 Royal Australn.Bk: , „ & Gold Imp. Co . . . . 25 25 South Australia ..... 25 all Union of Australia 72 73, 724 2 4 Do. Now 74 8. 50 10 Union of London.. 171 40 all Union of Madrid MISCELLANEOUS. 100 35 Australian Agricult..' 235 —24 g 42 20 6 Austrlasn.Pcific.Mail 10 5 Australn. Royal Mail 51 38A Brit. Amerien. Land 54 100 824 Canada 5 5 Crystal Palace 4 2 Crystal Pal. of Franco 20 1 Eastern Steam 1 1 Electric. Teleg. of Ir _ 15 14 Gen. Steam Navigat 100 50 General Screw Steam 20 2* Irish Beetroot Sugar 1 all Nat. Pat. Steam Fuel • 10 2 Netherlands Land._ •' • 20 24 Nrth .of Europe Steam • • 50 all Peninsular & Oriental • S 6 fi • 50 25 Do. Do. ••• .•.. 100 60 Royal Mail Steam,.,, 25 25 South Austral. Land 68 G O . :,7?, S6O 1 1 Submar. Telegraph 5 2 Universal Emigration •' - and Colonisation 100 284 'Van D'Amen's Land l5 15 - it LLOYD'S SHIPPING-(THLg DA T.) LONDON, Feb. 16.—Wind at Noon, N. to light breeze, and fine clear weather. DEAL, Feb. 15.—Wind, N.W., fair. .Arrived—Yssel, Java, for Rotterdam ; Elizabeth, Mickoril, for Amster dam ; Demerara, Berbica. Arrived from the River— Eliza Thornton, for Singapore ; Same, Rio Janeiro. Arrived from the River, and sailed—Allandale, for Sydney, New South Wales ; Abberton, Hobart Town ; Port Wal lace, Melbourne. Sailed.—Fortuna, Algoa Bay; Thomas Smook, Africa. OFF RAMSHATE, Feb. 15 . — Penelope. Swansea, with damage, having been in contact, and .will procoed for London. DOVER, Feb. 15.—Wind, N. to N.W. Arrived—Peter, Cape Hayti, for Bremen. COWES, Feb. 15.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Wilhelm, Buenos Ayres, for Antwerp. PORTSMOUTH, Feb. 15.—Wind, E.N.E. Sailed—Mala bar, Cape of Good Hope and Madras. LrvEßroot, Feb. 15.—Wind, N.E. Sailed—Gomelza, Adelaide, New South Wales ; Calder, Calcutta ; Pan dora,Arica ; Maranhata ; Elvira Owen, New ugNownYoorcko;ur?elro,usia, loading Cur Currier, Ofßororl Bombay, se s t: an Orleans Francisco, e Conste llation,oi r o v e e o o r rr remainsbea m ends upon the Jenny Wren, ; she makes no water. KINGBOAD,Feb. 16 : —Arrived— Borianza, Mauritius. HULL, Fe Feb. 15.—Wind, N. S a il ed—Slmne, Havannah. PILL, Feb. 15.—Wind, E. S ailed—Cambria, Calcutta ; Pathfinner, New York. The Ralkett, for Gloucester, and the Active, Milford to Bristol, were in contact—the latter drove on shore ; crew saved by the former, which pro ceeded. for Gloucester. -- CARDIFF, Feb. 15.—Wind, E.S.E. Sailed—Memel, Havannah ; Falstaff, Trinidad. master and about QUEENSTOWN, Feb. 14.—Wind, N.E . squally. Ar. newth, and went rived—Charles de Wolf, St. John's, l'r. Three Bro -Drinhe Q ica uee S n t. V j i o c l to lliC ri q : . ; th D or ti s, B l. , Sailed— . (s), Liverpool quarter h a e f r an ock h s ou o r ff ; t° dow t n hi in s p a o b rt ont st o ru ne ek q fifty persons drowned ; some of the p ausugera, su, , in number about forty to fifty, saved by the ROBCOMTI2OI I . (s), arrived here. YOuGHAL, Feb. 15. Tho Primeer, , Messina t o Liver pool, makes a little water, having grounded on the bar. CORK, Feb. 14. — Wind, N.E. Sailed---wr -. LarY Miller, Barbadoes. BREsT, Feb. 14.—The Marie Re N led antes to Bristol, has put into Camarel with cargo he, hut does not leak ; and the Marie Anne, Nantes to Haverfordwest, has put in here in a similar state, and must discharge, but makes very little water. • SCILLY, Feb. 14.—Wind, ES•E' , sth rzY. Arrived— Lady Pirie, Cuba, for Swansea, leaky ; Lady sarah Bayley, Cuba, for London. MARKET NEWS-(THIS DA T.) CORN EXCHANGE. in oo a d rk c e l t e . ara F n ee: improved condition, was on o ff er in to-day' s , A very limited p s: c p e p s ly full a y E e n q g ua lish i to wheat, th i nobtioimneowdloant . . h a ve been confined was s st Monday. There was rather more in e ld ffe n o d te s d th a e t demand ruled steady , and. a g c luiry for forward delivery parcels. and foreign changed hands steadily, at full currencies, and the value of other kinds to Fr 2 m 3o a g b o ro a l i t t d o , rs t . he it im eal po y rt g s 0 0 0 f d w q h u e a a l t it h ie a s was well supported. Floating cargoes Were h e ld at fully late rates. ba W rle e y, h a a t d Although the show of oats was very moderate, the trade was in a sluggish state. In prices, however, no change vaerygofoldpelmicaens.d for both En g li s h took place. 3r. With but mode_ rate suppli es on o ff er. Beans, peas, and flour moved off slowly, English .• Irish •• •• Foreign •• ARRIVALS THIS WEEK. Wheat. I Barley. Malt. (Xtts. Flour. 770 ' 1,190 4,750 860 1,950 1,120 I 590 WHITECHAPEL. 6,130 I 760 Beef moved off freely, at an advance in the quotations of 2d per 81bs ; all other kinds of meat the same as last Week. Beef, 2s 4d to 3 s exi ; mutton, 33 8d to 4s 4d ; veal, as Od to . 4s 4d; pork, 2s 8d to 4s per 81bs by the carcase. BOROUGH HOP. All kinds of hops—the show of which is very. moderat o -31191% Qff atc ill, ,t fully list wec4's GlU'racyi 18i 100 100 all all all i t. 50 50 20 25 25 St. 50 all 11i 100 11t all all all 100 424 34 - all 100 all 36 100 100 100 100 100 all all 6i all 100 all 100 1 20 11i 100 Pi i 9 i 8 9 13 liii 37 13 151 15 9 l 27g. 7112 601 1 1106 5i 64 .51 50/ 6i x in x in x in x iii 31i i i ri 9 i i i pm 'ENING, FEBRUARY 16, 1853. "TALS. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCRLLOB took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. The Earl of WICKLOW presented a petition from a place in Donegal against opening the Crystal Palace on Sundays ; also, from the guardians of Rathdown, in Wicklow, against what they term a most " unjust and iniquitous tax"—the Consolidated Annuities. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from the Lord Provost and Town Council of Edinburgh, against the imposition of religious tests on the professors of Scotch universities. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented several petitions from Belfast, and other places, to a similar effect. Lord STANLEY of Alderley presented a petition from the London and North-Western Literary Society, praying for the distribution of Parliamentary papers. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a similar petition from a place in Wiltshire. Lord WALDEGRAVE also presented a similar petition. Lord LYTTLETON laid on the table a bill to extend the practice of gratuitous vaccination. The bill was read a first time. CANADA CLERGY RESERVES. The Bishop of EXETER said he felt that he owed an explanation to their lordships for bringing before them to-night any question relative to a measure which the votes of the other house had announced that it was the intention of the Government to submit that evening to the House of Commons. It might seem strange, as the measure so to be introduced might afterwards come before their lordships ix the form of a bill, that he should not await its arrival in that house before he presumed to express an opinion on the subject—he must own, how ever, that the l very reason for bringing the question for ward to-night was, that he had read in the votes of the House of Commons that a bill was to be introduced into that house to-night dealing with this subject. He must say he thought their lordships had a right to express, he did not say complaint, but say surprise, and ho hoped that some explanation would be given by the noble duke the Secretary ,for the Colonies that the bill in question had not first been introduced into their lordships' house. It emanated from that department of which the noble duke (the Duke of Newcastle) was at the head ; and he (the Bishop of Exeter) thought it might have been hoped that, instead of causing the bill to be introduced by his under-secretary in the other house, the noble duke would himself have brought it before their lordships. It was well known that a t this season of the year their lord ships were not overburdened with business, and com plaints were constantly made on both sides of the idle ness of that house in the early part of the session, and of its being overworked at the close of the session. He thought, however, it was not impertinent to say, sitting on that bench, that in a case in which the interests of religion were so immediately concerned, it might have been hoped that the bishops would have had an oppor tunity of expressing, at an early period, their sentiments upon the merits of the measure. He thought it very possible that their lordships might have received some instruction upon such a subject from his right rev. brethren. He understood that the bill contained no provisions which, according to the practice of the con stitution would prevent its being considered by their lordships in the first instance. It was easy to con jecture that, in some cases, the motive for pursuing the course which had been taken by the Government might have been a desire to obtain not a very creditable advantage, by seeking to controul their lordships by the voice of the other house in which it might be supposed there was a better chance that such a bill would be successful. He could easily conceive that a person capable of endea vouring to take such an advantage might have preferred introducing the bill in the other house • but he fully acquitted the no bl e d u k e at t h e h ead of the Co lonial department of any unhandsome intention. The chief reason why he (the Bishop of Exeter) ventured thus early to call their lordships' attention to this subject was, that the whole course of proceeding with reference to it for the last year or two had lulled the colonists into full security that it was impossible any measure could be introduced without an opportunity being af forded them of sending deputies to this country who might claim justice on their behalf. Last year the late Government returned an answer to the address of the Legislative Assembly of Canada stating that they could not sanction the bill which it was wished should be in troduced, and that Government did not at all flinch from maintaining their resolution on the subject. In deed, it was notorious that, as the year advanced, the resolution of the late Government to resist the bill was strengthened. He had been informed, on no light au thority, that the late Government had entertained an increasing conviction that it would be contrary to the best interests of the colony and of the empire to assent to such a measure. The colonists had also the fullest grounds for believing that a measure of that kind would not have been introduced by the present Government. They saw at the head of that Government a noble earl whose whole life had been given to the support of those great principles on which the clergy reserves' security depended. They found also that in announcing the course of policy that would govern him in his admini stration, the noble earl declared his resolution to main tain the institutions of this country and of the empire, and it was naturally conceived that the interests of re ligion in the colonies would receive favourable regard and support from a Minister who rested his Govern ment upon such principles. But the name of the noble duke who sat near the noble earl seemed to the colo nists a tower of strength to their cause, and they be lieved 'that he would not consent to sacrifice the in terests of the Protestant Church in Canada by allowing the clergy reserves to be seized upon and confiscated. He (the Bishop of Exeter) thought the colonists, had sufficient reason to believe that the noble duke would support their cause. He was quite ready, at the same time, to admit, that when a statesman found himself in volved in the duties of office it was necessary for him to review the conclusions at which he had before arrived on any important matter of public policy. He admitted that it was the duty of such a person to correct his first impressions ; and, undoubtedly, if the previous private impressions of the noble duke had been against this measure, and he had subsequently changed that view, and considered that, as a Minister of the Crown, he was bound to support the present bill, he honoured the noble duke for havingyielded to reason and conviction. He, for one, confessed that the fact of the noble duke having succeeded to office, and being an important mem ber of the new Government, was to him a strong ground for believing that that Government would prove a friend to the Church of England and the Protestant religion as by law established. But, not only was the noble duke placed at the head of the colonies, but there was another remarkable circumstance—viz., that the noble earl who formerly held that office, and who,was understood to be the most hostile to the views of the colonists on this subject,' was no longer a member of the the Government at all, and this to the colonists must have appeared as another ground of confidence. Look ing to the other members of the Administration, they would see more than one right hon. gentleman whom they knew to be faithfully attached to true religion, especially as embodied in the Church of England. There was in particular one individual eminently distinguished by every public virtue, a man of whom it was impossible even when one differed from him, to speak without respect—he alluded to Mr. Gladstone, the Chancellor of the Exchequer—and what did the colonists know of him 1 He (the Bishop of Exeter) was not aware that that right hon. gentleman had ever publicly expressed an opinion upon this subject, but the colonists must have been aware that he had at first become greatly as well as favourably known to the world by the publication of a work on the relations of the Church to the State, in which he held and maintained the great principle that it was the first duty of the Government, as such, to sup port and advance the true religion. Had they not a right on that ground, then, to be satisfied that the right hon. gentlemen would be ound among the supporters of their claims ? There was another very special ground on which they must have formed some hope of the right hon. gentleman, and that was the constituency which had more than once selected him as their representative —he meant the University of Oxford—a constituency whose fidelity to the cause of religious truth could not for a moment be doubted. He mentioned these circum stances for the purpose of showing that the colonists had a fair right to expect that the present Government would have pursued the same line of policy on this subject as that which had been adopted by their , predecessors, and that, therefore, they must be totally unprepared for the bill which was to be brought into the other house that night for the purpose of confis cating the religious endowments of the colony. He ob served that the noble duke (Newcastle) was taking down his words, and therefore he would anticipate his objec tion, and admit at once that the bill would not confiscate the endowments, but would merely allow the Canadian Legislature to confiscate them, if they wished. But h e did not think, after all, that here was much difference between the two statements. It could not be denied that every member of the Canadian Ministry had com mitted himself in his place in the Canadian Legislature to the secularisation of the clergy reserves, if they had the power. (Hear, hear.) He begged to say, too, that the colonists had a right to expect that an opportunity would havp been afforded them, before the passing of this measure, of sending deputies here to plead their cause. It so happened that there was a right rev. pre late connected with Canada at present in this country, but it was peculiarly unfortunate that, being alone and without the necessary documents, he was unable to resist the measure in the manner that was to be desired. He (the Bishop of Exeter) must say, without a s cr ibi ng an y unfairness to the Government, or to the noble duke who was especially responsible for the measures that whether intended or not, the result was a grievous injustice to the colonists. Their lordships probably knew enough of the nature of the clergy reserves to render it unne cessary for him to detain them at any length in explana tion of them. He would only remind them of the gene ral outline of the facts. The right rev. prelate then proceeded to refer to the passing of the 31st George 111., e. 31, allocating a seventh of all the land sold in Canada " to the support of a Protestant clergy," and maintained that the national faith was pledged by that act to the maintenance of the reserves for that purpose. What, he asked, was the inducement for an honest Englishman to migrate to Canada except it was that he knew he was going to a land where he would find the means of pay ing his duty to God according to the forms of the church in which he had been reared 1 When the country became fuller of inhabitants, it was found that the funds derived from the reserves were not sufficiently large to provide religious ministrations for all the population, and the consequence was that there arose a godless population. He did not mean all the population, but ____—.....--.......—____,_.. only a portion of them. Among that portion there had arisen an agitation against the reserves, principally in Upper Canada ; for, so far as the Lower Province wag concerned, the agitation was not known till the end of 1849. But were their lordships prepared to accept the fact of agitation as a reason for passing a measure ! Canada was not the only country where agitation pre vailed. They had only to look across the Channel to Ireland, and there they would see agitation, not of th e mildest form nor th e l east threatening, 'nor the least powerful. (Hear, hear.) He hoped the Government were prepared to support the Irish church, and, if so, they would certainly add to their own embarassments in -1 defence of that chu rc h by g i v i ng such an open en couragement to the agitation against the church in Canada. Oh, but it was said that the reserves were public property. He knew not if their lordships were prepared to sanction this principle, but, if they were, they would be doing what no House of Lords, since the Heptarchy had ever dreamt of doing, or dared to do. He warned them also that they would be setting a pre cedent which would justify, not merely the spoliation of the church in Canada and in the United Kingdom, but the estates of many of their lordships, It was within his own knowledge that in the case of one of the greatest and best landowners in this country, who held a large portion of his property by grant from the Crown, the land having once belonged to the church, some of his tenants were in the habit of saying to each other—" This• land is ours ; it is public property, and we have as good right to it as he has." He was not saying whether this was a sound argument or not, but the persons who used it would, he was sure, be delighted at the precedent which would be set by the proposed bill on the Canada reserves. (Hear, hear.) The first paper for which lie proposed to move was the Government Gazette of Canada of the Bth of May, 1849, or any other document in the Colonial-office, containing a copy of an address to the Governor- General of British North America from the Romish prelates and clergy of Quebec in the year 1849, and of the answer of his Excellency to that address. He asked for that doctunent, because he was assured that it contained an answer of the Governor-General to an address from the Romish prelates and clergy of Quebec : that the first signature to that address was "Joseph, Archbishop of Quebec," a see which the Pope had no right to create, any more than he had a right to create sees in the mother country, and that the answer to the address had been directed to "his Grace the Archbishop, his Lordship the Bishop, and the other Members of the Catholic Clergy of Quebec." If he were rightly informed upon this branch of the subject, it would appear that the Governor-General had by that act recognized and sanctioned titles which in the eye of the law had no existence whatever. The second return for which he moved was a list of the bills passed by the Canadian Parliament, whether reserved or not, in the year 1849, and a statement whether and which of the same were disallowed by her Majesty. He believed that this return would show that in May, 1849, an act was passed in the Canadian Legislature to incorporate the Roman Catholic archbishops and bishops in each diocese in Canada. That act could not take effect un less the Home Government gave their assent to it within two years from the time of its passing the Canadian Parliament, and he was desirous to know whether it had been allowed to lapse, or whether it had ever been sanc tioned by the Government of this country ? Their lord ships would observe, that the interval between the pass ing of the act in Canada and the time when, in order to take effect, it must be sanctioned by the Home Parlia ment, embraced the period when the famous epistle was written by the noble lord the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, which shook this country to its inmost parts, and was made the ground of the strongest expres sions of animadversion against the Pope. At that pe riod, and when th a t ac t o f t h e Pope, so familiar in the recoPection of us all, was being declared by him to be unprecedented, a bill was actually before the noble lord from Canada, the object of which was to incorporate an Archbishop of Quebec. He (the Bishop of Exeter) con tended that this was a matter with which it was not competent for the Colonial Legislature to deal, that it was an imperial question involving the highest and most sacred part of our constitutional law, and that it was one upon which the Imperial Parliament alone should decide. The Legislature of Canada bad shown its re gard to religion already by comp l etely secularising a college, whi c had been founded and 'endowed for the purpose of the church in that country, and he did trust that the Church would'not be left to the tender mercies of such a Legislature. Another act had passed that Legislature, the 11th an d 12 t h of Victoria, chap. 143, the object o f which was to incorporate a religious order of persons in Canada, who were bound by their oaths to do any service which was required by the Pope. That measure actually had received the sanction of her Ma jesty's Government at the very time when there was such an outcry against the Pope in this cdtintry. (Hear, hear.) There was only one other document for which he should at present move, ' and that was a copy of any official letter from the Lord Bishop of Quebec to his Grace the Duke of Newcastle, one of her Majes ty's Principal Secretaries of State, on the matter of clergy reserves , in Canada. That latter had been hastily written ; but it was perhaps, the more satisfactory on that account, as containing the deep and earnest impressions of the writer. His right rev. friend had kindly favoured him with a sight of the draught of that letter, and he perceived that he de clared that no measure could have sacrilege more plainly stamped upon it than one which provided for the abso lute confiscation to godless uses of property solemnly dedicated to God, in order to satisfy the claims of the American loyalists. He asked their lordships, were they prepared to sanction that sacrilege ? There had been times when the House of Lords would have spurned the very notion, and he begged to remind the Govern ment that the act would be in direct contravention of the coronation oath. He knew statesmen did not like a reference to that oath. It permitted a great deal ; but one thing it did say—that the Protestant church should be upheld and preserved in England and Scot land, and all the dominions belonging thereto. He con tended that it had been properly construed that that oath bound the Sovereign to the utmost of her power to pYeserve the Protestant church and the Protestant re ligion in this country and all its dependencies. But, independently of this, there was another reason why the proposition of the Government should not be sanctioned. The whole amount of the provision from the clergy re serves was about 20,0001 a year in the umer province; and there was a restriction that not more than 1001. a year should be allowed to any one clergyman. If there were at present but 200 clergymen receiving 1001. a year each in that country to support the true church, he asked their lordships were they prepared to sanction the disturbance of that property in the face of an enor mously wealthy church ! The estates of St. Sulpice alone, in Montreal, were estimated at 60,0001. per annum ; and lie might safely say that it was the richest spiritual corporation in the world. He would be no party to a breach of the treaty which bound us to hold inviolate the property of the Roman Catholic church ; but it must be remembered that that provision was the very reason which had induced George 111. and his Ministers to recommend the measure of 1791 to Parlia ment, and which had led to its being triumphantly carried by the Legislature of that day. The right rev. prelate concluded by moving for the production of the papers. The Duke of NEWCASTLE said, that as it would probably at no distant period be his duty officially to oc cupy their lordships at some length on this subject, he would not now take up much of their time in discussing the various points introduced by the right rev. prelate. He did not, of course, complain of the right rev. prelate.s having brought forward the subject on the present occa sion, but he thought the house would concur with him in the opinion that the course so adopted by the right rev. prelate was not altogether contenient, seeing that, on the one hand, there was no measure before their lord ships on this subject, and that, on the other hand, a member - of the Government was, he believed, at that very moment stating to the other house of Legislature the details of a bill by which the Government proposed to settle the question, which bill, he anticipated, would, in due season, come before their lordships for regular dis cussion. (Hear, hear.) That measure, indeed, the right rev. prelate, though evidently unacquainted with its provisions, had thought proper to stigmatize as one of confiscation, as designed to pervert the clergy reserves in Canada from their legitimate purpose ; but their lordships would find, when ,the bill came before them, that the right rev. prelate's apprehensions on this head were without foundation. The right rev. prelate com plained that the measure had not been introduced first in their lordships' house. In the first place, pre cedent had established that such bills should originate in the other house ; in the second place, the state of their lordships' benches then—as usual at this early , period of the session—showed the inexpediency of intro ducing a measure of so much importance there under such circumstances ; and, thirdly, the very character of the bill itself rendered it desirable that it should come before their lordships, and especially before the right rev. bench, in a condition as maturely discussed as might be elsewhere deemed fit. Any one would imagine from the right rev. prelate's speech that this was quite a new subject, on which the opinion of the colonists re mained to be ascertained, whereas it was a. question on which the wishes and feelings of the colony had been tested over and over again, which had been in agitation for the last 30 years, and which had been the subject of repeated despatches from the colonial ministers of this country, all of whom, with one sin g l e exception, of m ost recent date, had declared the principl e th a t t hi s was a matter for the consideration of the colonial, and not of the Imperial Legislature. With regard to the clergy of Canada, it could not be said with accuracy that they were taken by surprise in the Government bill at that moment being proposed elsewhere, for Archdeacon Bethune, who was now in this country, h a d published a, pamphlet on the subject, in which he declared his expectation that legislation would take place, and in the very sense now contem plated by her Majesty's ministers. As little could be said that the colonists were taken by surprise in the matter, for he held in his hand a Canadian newspaper of recent date, a most respectable and well-conducted journal, and one, he might add, of strong Conservative opinions, which, adverting to the measure anticipated from her Majesty's Government, spoke of it, not by any means as a bill of confiscation, but as a course of legislation to be encouraged and supported in the most emphatic manner, as confirming the principle of the indefensible right of the Canadian Legislature to legislate on this matter, peculiarly its own affair, for itself—a principle in which her Majesty's Government fully concurred. The suggestion of the right rev, pre late that danger was to be apprehended to the Church in Canada, because, as he stated, some individual mem ber of, the Government there had expressed strong opi nions en the subject, WM of no Ayail, since, whateyer the private opinions of an individual member of th e Government might be, they could in no degree operate against the declared opinion of the colonists through their Legislature. The right rev. prelate was mistaken in the supposition that the Bishop of Quebec had be en taken by surprise in the matter. He (the Duke of Newcastle) had availed himself of the earliest opportu nity of conveying to 'that prelate, who was now in Eng. land, the intentions of the Government, and he had, three weeks since, given the same intimation to Arch deacon Bethune, with the promise, in each case, to com municate the time at which the Government would bring forward their measure, which promise had been fulfilled. When that measure came before their lord ships in due course he should be fully prepared to satisfy them, he believed, that it was a bill neither of confisca tion nor of sacrilege, The papers which the right rev. prelate desired would be feadily produced. The first named by the right rev, prelate was already on the table of their lordships' house. Of another, the ex bat nhe been nu disposition r h t ho t h had a rightdon reserv e dh r ex tract from the colonial Gazette, there was no Dopy at present in the Colonial-office, but a letter should be immediately transmitted to danada for a copy. He i e s : - p . a p rht r i setloaotbpeei opinion u n t i l b n u o a snt t t e. be ct e ah n ue s perfectly f le e cwhtaasl had candid in his statement, but lie attributed that, not to been before their lordships. He not so well acquainted with the facts l ie would have lloiandlil'eceived oily y s tenrday e - sp a letter subjectigh t i.e fr v. om pre t l h a e te i h s h e e was p o f l v o e e n r adr e e td e u r e to on that the r treal ; but, h av i ng considered it with all the attention theless bound to say, 'that in it he found assertions he could not admit, and arguments it would, on a future (occasion, be his duty t o confute. The right rer. prelate) the Bishop of Exeter) had spoken of the proposed mea sure of the Government as sacrilege. That was a charge of so grave a nature, that, however anxious he was not to enter into the details of the measure, he felt bound at once to say he could not recognise its truth or justice. If this measure were sacrilege, what was the act of 1840 ? The Government did net propose to deal with the clergy reserves as they were dealt with in 1840, transferring from one body to another the arbitrary dis position of the property ; but assuming that it wen% the whole length the right rev. prelate contended for, and that the reserves were applied to secular purposes, he would ask the right rev, prelate what was the character of the act of 1840, which he had supported Sacrilege could not be a question of degree. If a man broke into a church and stole some plate, ,he would be equally guilty of sacrilege whether he only took a small quan tity or more. But what did the right rev, bench do in 1840 ? He did not attack them for it, but there must .be consistency in this matter. They supported an act which took away from the Church of Eng land a large portion of the clergy reserves, and it was applied, not to the purposes of other creeds or forms of Christianity, but to secular purposes. (Hear.) B u t he went furth er , an d asked what were all the preceding acts that had passed upon this question since 1791 ? What had been the course taken by the Legislature of Canada, and the recommendations sent out by the Governments of this country! Had they been guilty of sacrilege ? What did Sir J. Pakington say ? He said he was prepared to deal with this question—that circum stances had occurred, such as emigration and others, which made it necessary to have a redistribution of these funds, necessarily taki ng a part from the Chur c h of England; and he was therefore just as guilty of sacrilege as the present Government would be if they had proposed to hand over the whole of these funds to secular purposes. Upon this subject, so far as the Church was concerted, and any religious dues were involved in this measure, it was as between the present and the late Government a mere question of degree. But as regarded the measure itself upon the most im portant view—namely, the colonial view, it was a matter not of degree, but of principle. The whole question was this—was it to be a colonial or imperial question ? Were they to follow •ut to its true legitimate conclusion the principle of not merely a repre sentative but a responsible Govern-went, or to deprive the colony of the full benefit of that responsible Government and thereby to leave it in an ano malous position The right rev, prelate had said that the question had been considered as settled in 1840. The late Government had not so considered it. The Bishop of Quebec and other bishops of Canada in 1846 applied for a different arrangement of these reserves ; they wished to reppen the question, though undoubtedly for the benefit of the Church. They who claimed the finality of the settlement of 1840 wished to reopen the question in 1846. How then could they say in 1846 it was not settled as to part, and 'yet that it was closed as to the whole in 1853 ? He thought that when their lordships came to consider this question they would arrive at the conclu sion with him that upon purely and strictly colonial views it ought to be settled at once, and in the way pro. posed by the Government. The right rev. prelate had spoken of the effect it would have on the coronation oath ; but he thought their lordships would see, when this bill came to be printed, that the Queen would have the same power of veto she now had, and that in no way, as he conceived, was the coronation oath affected by it. The right rev, prelate had also entered into a comparison of the Church of Rome and the Church of England , in Canada. Upon some future occasion he would enter into the question ; but he could assure the right rev prelate that, whatever might be, and he believed it to begreatly exaggerated—the wealth of the Roman Catho lic Church in Canada, that Church would stand on pre cisely the same footing as to being dealt with by the Canadian Legislature as the clergy reserves under this measure. The right rev. prelate had spoken of the Roman Catholic endowments in Canada, as though they had been settled by acts of Parliament which were about to be left on tho statute-book, while the clergy reserves were disturbed. But the Roman Catholic Church stood on a much weaker foundation. If the right rev. prelate would refer to the treaty of Quebec, he would find that the treaty tended to confirm little more than perfect freedom of worship to the Roman Catholics of Canada ; and as to the very instance put by the right rev. pre late—that of the corporation of , St. Sulpice--what was its title ? It was not confirmed by treaty, but was so weak that a Canadian !ordinance was passed, and it was under that its possessions was now held. Again, what had the Legislature already done as to the Roman Catholic endowments ? They con sisted in one form of tithes, but they were not payable by all classes of the communion —(hear, hear), and so strictly was that the case, that if a man changed his religion he became exonerated from the payment by the mere fact of such change. Moreover, in Upper Canada the tithes had been abolished ; and in consequence of that, as he believed, the Governor of Canada had con ferred on the Roman Catholic Church a grant out of the clergy reserves ; and under that grant the Roman Catholic Church was receiving 1,6001. a-year. That Church, therefore; stood upon precisely the same footing as the Church of England. There had been an amount of mystification and misrepresentation upon this subject which he hoped by discussion in that and the other house of Parliament would be removed ; and he con fidently anticipated thit the right rev. bench, viewing this measure not abstractedly as affecting the Church of England alone, but as a great national concern, would regard it as one of the greatest advantages to the Church in Canada. As to the Legislature of the United States never altering any endowments of this kind, he doubted much whether in all instances they had adhered to that rule. In one of the greatest States of the Union he believed that the endowment of the Church was now held by an Unitarian body, though, generally speak ing, the endowments of the Church of England had been respected in the United States of America, and ho gathered from that precedent this example and warning,—that if they trusted men with their own concerns, and placed these matters within the jurisdiction to which they belonged, they would be more inclined to respect previous engagements and old settlements than if they were disturbed by long agitation and repeated contests. So strong was his conviction that they could only act upon the clear and defined principle of colonial freedom upon all pea tions connected with the internal administration of their own affairs—(hear ' hear)--that he sh ou ld be prepared, without reference to the result, to take the course the Government were now about to pursue ; but at the same time he must say he was confident a great deal would depend, as regarded the future issue of this question, on the course, the conciliatory course, apart from all bias and party feeling, from all that irritation which, unfor tunately, frequently arose upon any question in which the religious feeling of the country was involved, taken upon it by that and the other house of Parliament when it came before them for consideration. (Hear.) The Earl of DESART, after expressing his regret at the absence of a noble earl who had been most anxious to be present at the discussion of this subject, in which. he took the greatest interest, said that, as an individual, he tendered his thanks to the right rev. prelate for hay ing brought the subject before their lordships, as it was most important the public should be made sensible of what he must consider as a great blow to Protestantism in Canada, and he said that the more advisedly, inas much as the Canadian Legislature had made no secret of their intention to divert these lands from ecclesias tical purposes. The noble duke was right in saying that Sir J. Pakington had been open to consider any proposals the Canadians might have made as to the redistribution of the clergy reserves, for he considered the settlement of 1840 was only final in appropriating the proceeds of those reserves to ecclesiastical pur poses, and thought most justly that th e Canadianpeople could best judge in what way those funds should be applied. There was one point which he thought wa s not well understood by the public. It was ooret ho t by many that the great majority, or almost the population of Canada, were in f avour o f the abrogation that was of the settlement of 1840. H e did no t think the case. On the contrary, he found t h a t among the members returned by Upper Canada ---a nd, after all, it I was those members who must.m.l my be considered, for those of Lower Canada wereß o man Catholics and in the maintenane French people, and had neinterest had increased from two to four, and also h of the clergy reserves—the min ority _ that t hat minority was actually n umber t of constituents than th e majority of the Legislatu re— the minority having rec e i ve d upwards of 24,000 votes, an d the majority only 13,500 . The right rev. prelate said that this was an agitati on o f three or four years , and he thought that was t rue ; b ut the agitation abo u t these funds was the v er y reason that f or ced the se of 1840, and settleme nt prompted the Cana dian Parliament to pass a bill placing th e di sposal of the funds in the Imperial Parliament, b ecause they could no t se ttle it themselves, and were anxious it should be finally settled one way or other, and in 1846, Mr. Price upon the question being again raised by the Bishop of Quebec, said he was unwilling to di s t ur b t h e sett l ement of 1840, which had proved so satisfactory and so advan. tageous to the good feeling of the people of Canada. 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