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Member suggesting a plan which- , '- ) • tit t ` 4 Z , The selection of 5,000 of the highest rate-payers in h an old en er d s in to E t n h g e la f n r d an : w o h f at all such a county as Dorset 1 . Did any . gentleman in franchisee that House suppose that such •a project could ever be brought to operate with anything like accuracy and fairness? The Honourable Member based the whole of his observations npOn the assumption that the framers of the Bill then on the table of the House had undertaken to frame a new Constitution for that House. They had never engaged in any such un dertaking—they never proceeded with a view to realise any pre conceived theory—they sought to preserve those parts, and as many parts of the existing Constitution as were not imperfect—amongst the number the franchise of the forty-shilling freeholders; and to that class—so fully capable of exercising the rights which the Constitution entrusted to them—they added the copyholders, the long leaseholders, and, in conformity with the proposition of the Noble Lord opposite, the occupiers of MIL value. Thus had they proceeded throughout in the spirit of our ancient institutions, and with the design of imparting in creased influence to the property of the country. He alto gether dissented from the opinion that the registrative clause would lead to the complexity attributed to its pro bable operation, but he thought the House would agree with him, that the most prudent course would be to wait till the clause came regularly before the Committee. He rI‘TOREg, Are. TOR THE ROYAL NfARINES VICTUALLING-OFFICE, JAN. 25, 1832. THE Commissioners for Victualling his Majesty's Navy, &c. do hereby give Notice, that on FRIDAY, the 10th day of February next, they will he ready to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat for the supply of all such numbers of the following Articles, &c. as shall from time to time he demanded fin• the use of the Royal M 'rine Barracks and Infirmaries at Woolwich, Chatham, Portsmouth, and Plymouth, from the date of the Contract to the 31st day of March, 1833, and further, if notice for its termination on that clay he not given until Three Months' notice shall be given on either side for the termination of the same, viz. LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 2, 1832. o. 12,290. PRICE ID. ARTICLES. A RTICL h:S4 Palliass Cases - !Mops Shoots - In one Con- mop goads tract for all • " _ .. . '.., Bolsters lle the D arth Brushes k: i s • es s, Round Towels - iv i- ,s- Scrubbtngßrushes, long = sions.`''4l Bolster Cases Scrubbingßrushes,hand ' '-'• Et,' / Bed Cords In one Contract Clamps for Brushes 2 !,... for all the Di- Birch Brooms 2. , Clothes Lines visions. Hearth Brooms - n Worsted rln one Contract for Cablaage Nets J - C 0 Stockings / all the Divisions. For such Painters, In a sepa- Anticorrosion Iu separate Co- Plumbers, and rate Con- Paint tracts at each Glaziers'ordinary tract at Prepared Oil Division. Work as shall be each Di- Lamp Oil required. vision. rln a separate Contr et Chairs /at each Division. And for the purchase o ,-, n t_-• Door Mats the Old Bedding, &c. F', 2 2 Coal Baskets - 1 In a sepa- at Chatham and Ply- , :r ;:s' " rate Con- • ....., Clothes Baskets mouth, consisting of ;..e. % ;P, tract at Hair Brooms, Long Old Linen, Blankets, :11. , -1 , 7 erh Hair Brooms, Short , . - ' Rugs, and Bed Sack- . ', Hair Broom I leads j v a ision. D'' •'''6 ,- i n g s. P g 4 :::. FOREIGN AFFAIRS. Thiq day was publiqh , d, in Bvn . price 6d. T HE BALANCE of POWER, PAST and PROSPECTIVE. James Ridgway, Piccadilly ; and through every Book- Lefler. be better to make these accusations when they were in the House. Mr. RAMSDEN supported the prayer of the petition, and expressed his intention of opposing the Bill. Mr. SPENCE. had studied the report of the Commis sioners and the Bill, and had no hesitation in say ing he was of opinion it would be of great benefit to the landed interest.—(Hear, hear.) He had observed the lamentable exp , nce created in the transfer of real property, particularly in the administration of estates in Bankrupte e or in Chancery, and wltera the proper time arrived he would relate instances of it. At present it was seldom that estates were sold in which there were not objections to the title. In consequence of the mystery in which many titles were involved, it had become almost impos sible to decide when a title was good and marketable.— One of the great advantages of this Bill would be that a person could easily ascertain whether a title be good or not. The petitioners seemed to him (Mr. S.) to have for their object to stifle the measure. He had no doubt that the petitioners stated what they firmly believed to be its re sults, but he must beg leave to differ with them in thinking that it would tend to their injury. Ile sincerely hoped that the Hon. Member for Stafford would not allow any thing to operate as a prevention in bringing this measure to a second reading, at, which period the subject might be fairly and properly discussed. He had no hesitation in saying that the time was not far distCet, when the erroneous notions entertained by the petitioners would be put an end to, and those who were now its great est opponents would he the most ardent supporters of the measure. deed stated that it was for the sake of economy, but as the money which was to he saved went to the lawyers, the public would understand how to estimate its valve. He hoped the House would reject the measure. Mr. O'CONNELL would not have ri.en but for the insinuation thrown out by the Hon. Member for Preston against that profession to which he belonged. He did not think it necessary to vindicate his brethren on this side the Channel, but he was a decided supporter of the Bill, ' convinced of the great advantage which hail accrued to his country from a general registry. Deplorable as was the state of Ireland, nothing would so greatly aggravate their applications as to withdraw from them the advantage which they dried from such an institution. He was astonished that in a country like England, where so much good serve existed, objections mild be raised to the measure proposed by his Honourable and Learned Friend. It was the duty however of pro. fessional men to expose the evils of the present system, undaunted by any opposition that might be made. After A few words from Mr. JoanisroNE, the petition was ordered to he printed. Sir J. NEWPORT said that he should move on the 21st of February for a report of the Commissioners on the Preroative and Consist or i a l C our t s i n Ireland. tenants themselves were not desirous of having this clause passed, and he must say, that he thought the class of men to whom it was now proposed to give the vote were not r. class that would constitute an effective Reform to repre sentation. With these feelings be should move, as an amendment, that the words "or than occupy as tenant any lands or tenements for which be shall be bona fide liable to a yearly rent of not less than 507." should be omitted from the clause. Lord ALTHORP said that the clause in question had not been introduced in the original Bill; but as lie had now proposed it in the present Bill, he thought it was hi++ duty to support it. He did not feel that he should be act ing as an honest man, if, after having thus introduced it, he was not to vote for it. He believed that the number of votes that would he added by this clause was not very con siderable, and he agreed with the Hon. Member who bad just spoken, that it would give great satisfaction to the farmers throughout the country. He should therefore vote against the amendment. The Marquis of CHANDOS thanked the Noble Lord opposite for the frank and manly manner in which be had adopted the clause in question. He was sure it would give great satisfaction to the farmers, whom he character ized as a most independent body of men. Just published, New Edition, in one large and elegant vol. Svo., with thirty-six illustrations after Smirke, Howard, &c. 30s. in cloth, or 31s. 6d. with gilt e d ges , THE FAMILY SHAKSPEARE ; in which nothing is added to the Original Text, but those Words and Expressions are omitted which cannot with propriety be read aloud in a Family. By T. BOWDLER, Esq. F.R.S. The same work, without illustrations, in ten vols. royal 18mo. 31 3s. bds. ; and in eight vols. Svo. 1/. 14s. 64. We are of opinion that it requires nothing more than a no tice to bring this very meritorious publication into general cir culation."—Edinburgh Review. London : Longman, Rees, Orme, Brown, and Co. By the same Editor, GIBBON'S ROMAN .EMPIRE ; adapted to the Use of Families and Young Persons. 5 vols. Svo. 31. 3s. bds. had only to conclude these leir observations with saying, he was by no means prepared to go the length of the Hon. Member, and at one stroke destroy all the constituency of England. Sir E. B SUGDEN contended that the effect of the: Bill would be to destroy the forty shilling franchise, and the registration clause, as any man who looked at it must see, would give rise to perpetual investigationsand disputes. The cause was then put and agreed to, as was clause 21. The question having been put on clause 22, Colonel WOOD thought that a great deal of complexity would be prevented by substituting the poor rates as a means of ascertaining the qualification for the register proposed by the clause. The clause was then agreed to ; and the question being put upon the 23d clause, a conversation ensued, which caused much laughter in the House, but of which not a word was heard in the gallery. Sir E. SUGDEN said that trustees, although having no interest in the freehold to which the right of voting was attached, would have, under the clause, as worded, the power to vote, although that could not be the intention of the Government. Samples of the respective Articles required to be fur nished, together with the conditions of the Contracts, may be seen at this Office, and also by applying to the respec tive Barrack Masters at Woolwich, Chatham, Portsmouth, and Plymouth. Security will he required for the due per formance of each of the said Contracts. Each Tender must specify the price in minis at length, and be delivered before One o'clock on the slay appointed ; and the Person who makes the Tender, or some Person on his behalf, must attend to answer when called for. A Form of Tender for the above•mentioned Articles may be obtained at this Office, or from any of the said Barrack Masters. NEW BURLINGTON-STREET, JAN. 30. THE NEW MONTHLY MAGAZINE. . _ Edited by E. L. BULWER, Esq. The Second Number for 1632, published on the lst February, contains, among viirions others, Papers on the following 4UbjeCti(*.‘..... 1. The Quarterly Review. 2. The Poetical and Literary Character of John Kemble. 3. The Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge.) 4. Memoirs of the late Ugo Foseolo. 5. John Hampden and his Times, by Lord Nugent. 6. The Present State of the Drama. 7. Percy Byshe Shelley at Oxford. S. Assassioation of Capo D'lstrias. 9. The Garrick Correspondence. 10. How to live with credit. 11. Asmodeus at large, No. '1 12. Monthly Commentary :—Colonel Brereton—The Necessity of Notoriety—Tragedy on, and Comedy off, the Stage, &c. &c. Published by Colburn and Bentley, New Burlington. street, and supplied by all Booksellers and News-venders. Lord PALMERSTON presented papers relative to the 'Tear}' the Netherlands. Mr. O'CONNELL took that opportunity of asking whether his Majesty's Government had received any spe cific information relative to fifty British subjects, who in a part of France, without trial or any judicial proceeding, had been banished as felons? M. WALLER CLIFTON. BRITISH INSTITUTION, PALL-MALL. 'THE GALLERY for the EXHIBITION and SALE of WORKS of BRITISH ARTISTS, will be OPENED on TUESDAY next, the 7th inst., and continue Open daily, from Ten in the Morning till Five in the Evening. Admission Is. ; Catalogue Is. WILLIAM BARNARD, Keeper. Sir J. JOHNSTONE thought that the benefits of a General Registration Bill might be obtained by local re gistration laws. Ile was not however disposed to concur in the sweeping observations that had ben made by his Hon. Colleague again,t the Real Property Commissioners. Lord PALMERSTON had received general informa tion as to the circumstance alluded to. It had been occa sioned by the suppression of a religious institution by the French Government, but no official representation on the part of the persons themselves had, up to the present pe riod, been received. If British subjects made a represen tation to him that they had suffered injuries from which they conceived they ought to be protected by vir tue of the treaties between this country and France, so as to justify any interference on the part of the British Government. An inquiry would immediately be insti tuted, and such steps adopted as to his Majesty's Govern ment should seem fit and proper. Lord MILTON rose and made some observations rela tive to the constitution of the Committee on tithes in Ire land, after which Mr. O'Connell rose and was left speaking. 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" There is a great deal of good humour in the composition of these dialogues; the author's plan of giving the English first, after the idiom of the French, and then according to the regular form of the language, we have before alluded to with the appro bation it merits."—Atlas. " A most useful elementary little work, upon the best plan which we have met with, and highly useful for all students of the French language. We know no treatise better adapted to its object"—Metropolitan Magazine. " The mode adapted for familiarising the student with the gen ders by the arrangement of the first and last letters is simple and ingenious, and has the advantage of novelty to recommend it."— Court Journal. In spite of these recommendations, some French masters will not use this work, fur the sole reason that it must bring the pupils too rapidly forward. SECOND EiiiTiON. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. PERI AL PA RLIAMEM OF THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SrEAKER entered the House at Four o'clock. Colonel TRENCH gave notice that, on Monday next, he would bring forward a motion for a Committee to in quire into the beat mode of accommodating the Members of the House. Mr. PENLEAZE presented a petition (from what place we could not hear) praying that a Bill might be passed to enforce a general system of drainage in all towns in England. That petition gave rise to sonte observations from Mr. If I:51E, Mr. SANDFORD, and the SPEAKER. The latter said, that it had ben usual to allow the inhabitants of each place to judge for themselves as to whether they wished for any legislative enactment in regard to such matters as draining, but the object of these petitioners was to enforce one system in all places. Mr. HUME observed that a general Bill would do much for the health of the community, and if one were passed it could be left to the majority of the inhabitants of each town to decide upon receiving the benefit of it. Lord MORPETH presented petitions from the Physi cians and Surgeons of Leeds and Halifax, praying for a law to be passed by which the science of anatomy might be acquired without rendering the profession liable to pu nishment. Mr. HUNT was not surprised at these petitions from the Doctors, but he was surprised that there was no peti tion from those whose bodien were likely to he subjected to dissection. lie did not hear that any of those physicians or surgeons had offered to give their own bodies for dis section. Lard MORPETII, in answer to the Hon. Member, said he bad presented a petition upon this subject, which had been agreed to at a public meeting in Wakefield, which was the first public meeting for that - object, and reflected great credit upon the petitioners. GENERAL REGISTRATION BILL. The NOBLE LORD then rose to present a great number of petitions against the General Registration Bill. He had given notice of his intention to present these petitions, and was consequently sorry that the Hon. Member for Stafford (Mr. Campbell) was not in his seat. When the inhabitants of Yorkshire first petitioned upon this sub ject, they confi ied themselves to praying to be excluded from the operation of the Bill; but finding that the lion. Member would not grant them that boon, they were opposed to the measure altogether. The lion. Member (Mr. Campbell) had, on one occasion, stated that he had received communications from various persons in Yorkshire in favour of the Bill, but lie, Lord Alorpeth, must say, that not only had those persons escaped detection, but they defied all conjecture. It had also been said, that the meetings at which these petitions were agreed to were got up by attornies and others interested in opposing the Bill. There was no doubt that the country attornies disliked the Bill, because it would withdraw some business from them, but he denied the assertion. His Hon. Friend (Mr. C.) would have a better chance of success if he introduced a system of local registration instead of having a general and Metropolitan Office of Registration. The Noble Lord then presented petitions from the owners of real property in the North and West Ridings in Yorkshire ; also from the Magistrates of the quarter sessions of the North Riding, from Leeds, Huddersfield, Selby, Tadcaster, Doncaster, Skipten, and various other places. Mr. STRICKLAND supported the prayer of the peti tion. The General Registry Bill, or as it should be called a Bill for the deposit of title deeds, proceeded front the Law Commissioners, which had already cost the country the enormous sum of 30,000/.—(Hear.) It was now 180 years since that great and eminent Judge, Sir Matthew Hale, brought forward a similar plan, but he, Mr. Strickland, believed that the Law Commissioners had tout sight of the caution of that Learned Judge, be cause he said " if upon inquiry you find that such a plan will be attended with greater inconveniences than benefits, it ought to be wholly rejected." The Hon. and Learned Member (Mr. Campbell) might have considered that the plan bad been brought forward in every reign since then, and this was the sixteenth time it had been attempted. The last time was in the year 1816, when a General Re gistration Bill was introduced by Mr. Serjeant Onslow, but it never reached a second reading. On reference to the petitions now presented, it would he seen that the greatest portion of Yorkshire was opposed to the Bill. He (Mr. S.) could hardly have believed that the Hon. Member (Mr. Campbell) would have been the person to propose it, seeing that only three years ago he signed his name to a report, stating that a plan of general registration was dan gerous to commercial credit. It certainly would be dan gerous to commercial credit, and still more dangerous to persons of landed property. The disadvantages of such an establishment would so greatly overbalance the advantages that hr should give it his decided opposiiion. Mr. HUME put it to the House, whether, when such charges were being made egainst the Hon. and Learned Member (Mr. Campbell) and ',the Law Commissioners, in their absence, it would not have been much better to wait until they, or some person who could answer the charges, were present. The gentlemen were high legal characters, who having been appointed to do a certain duty bad acquitted themselves honourably, and it would Mr. SADLER concurred entirely with the prayer of the petition which had been presented from Leeds. He had never soen an instance of a more strong feeling of op position to any measure than that which had been given by the people of Yorkshire to this Bill. Mr, CAMPBELL understood that during his absence the Hon. Member for Yorkshire (Lord Morpeth) had stated that the Real Property Commissioners had totally condemned the measure now brought forward. He begged leave, with all due deference to that Hon. Member, most positively to contradict that statement. instead of condemning it, they had strongly recommended it. He had received letters from many respectable indivi duals, stating that several solicitors and many interested parties had actually hawked about petitions for signature against the Bill. He (Mr. C.) looked with surprise. upon the apposition that had been made to the Bill by country gentlemen. Feeling convinced, as he did, chat they were the persons who would be must benefitted by the measure. The object of the Bill was, to relieve the landed proprietors of the country from those burthens under wilieb they laboured, and he (Mr. C.) pledged himself when the opporttmity arrived to prove that the plan instead of being injurious to the landed proprietors of the country would be a very great benefit—no person would be in• jured by it, except the lawyers.—(A laugh.) Mr. TREVOR declared that there was not a land owner in the county of Durham who was not unanimous in their objections to the measure, being convinced it would be productive of a great inconvenience, and would be the cause of most vexatious delays. He felt con vinced that he should be borne out by the Honour able Gentleman opposite, in stating that if Members representing places in the north of England, wished to act up to the feelings of their constituents, they would feel it their duty to oppose this measure in every stage ; and he begged of the Hon. Member for Stafford to be aware, that he for one had no hesitation in saying, that the petitions against this Bill had not been got up by interested parties, as he had stated. Mr. STEPHENSON made a few observations, which were inaudable in the gallery. An HON. MEMBER said be came from a part of the country from which a considerable number of those peti tions proceeded, and from the information he bad re ceived from persons residing there, he certainly could not subscribe to their plan. He by no means thought a General Registry establishment would be acceptable to country gentlemen. Mr. J. WOOD was decidedly in favour of this mea sure. The expense incurred by:the present system of regis tering throughout the country was cnormous,and nine-tenths of it would be saved by the proposed measure. He was quite confident, if the pi inciple of this Registry Bill were better known, a great part of the clamour—for clamour it was, proceeding from ignorance—which had been raised against this Bill would pass away. If gentlemen would only take the trouble to look into the reports made by the Law Commissioners, a considerable portion of the prejudice now existing against the Bill would fall to the ground. Besides these considerations, there was the satisfactory reflection that if this Bill only passed, there would be a place of perfect safety for the must important documents. Lord MILTON had always understood that the division of opinion throughout Yorkshire, was on the question whether there should he any registration at all, or not. W ith respect to the Bill now under consideration, he was certainly fir from saving reasons might not be adduced to turn his opinion in favour of it, but certainly at pre sent his feeling was decidedly against the measure. One great proof of its not being in accordance with the feeling of the country was, that two of the largest counties had petitioned against it. Mr. SANDFORD acknowledged that evils attended the present system of registration, but he was persuaded still greater mischiefs would result from the passing of the present measure. It would be well for the House to pause, before it legislated on that which was mainly to affect people of property, and which such persons were decidedly averse to Parliament interfering upon. Lord MORPETH said that many of the petitions which lie hail presented were signed by persons of indisputable respectability and intelligence, and who were not likely to be hoodwinked, or led away by any representation that was not sound in principle. Colonel TRENCH assured the House that this measure was decidedly against the feeling of the country. He had had communications on the subject from the ship owners and other respected persons of Scarborough, as well as from well-informed persons in various other parts in the north of England, who thought the Bill most inquisitorial. It was described as a job and a mea sure that ought not to be sanctioned by the House. Mr. CAMPBELL stated that from his communications, some of the petitions had been hawked about from town to town, from village to village, throughout Yorkshire, and then they bad the modesty to represent that nine tenths of the best informed persons throughout that county were against the measure. Now le could assure the House that nine-tenths of the most intelligent men in Yorkshire were in favour of the Bill. Again, as to the Judges of the land, ho believed every one of them was in favour of a General Registry Bill. The late Lord Chancellor was a decided friend to it, and so was the present. He knew it was exceedingly difficult to force a good on the country, but he only wished persons to pause and consider, and he was sure that their minds must be turned in favour of this Bill. Mr. STRICKLAND deprecated the attempt of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to make it appear that un fair means had been used to get those petitions signed. It was only necessary to state in contradiction of this, that one of them was not signed by not less tha❑ forty-nine Magistrates. Was Lord Harewood, Lord Mexhorough, Lord Howden, Sir J. Ramsden, Sir Was. Cooke, and many others of high character, who might be named, likely to act under the influence of any improper representations made by ignorant country attornies ? The Hon. Member for Ripon had stated that he could e :l b gvan r rnoe i then:a:gl)t would couldsf wiotnraheu inevitably forward td r bao d srb: c niayp a g s su e gf no s : drrn t wie o esrrian p art lg r hd o i f v oarr e enoßli e tii : 81 l eer ! txy e oap n kt ;ohl take place prn l r lisg a ati r e,ti d eieh s t p s(dtAtea o ien r rdec i . originating n wito. a er hfsit Strick land) enkhnige.t, le l absurd state of conveyancing. These cases, he was sure, would be sufficient, if he had time to refer to them, to in duce the House to pause before it sanctioned in any way the measure which the country did not desire, and which would be exceedingly detrimental to the interests of individuals of property. . . Mr. HUNT considered that the country had come to a strange state, when, as the Hon. and Learned Gentle- man had stated that no neasure should be forced upon a country, the lawy Ts were anxious to palm this measure upon the land:d interests, while objections from every quarter were poured in against it. It was in- HOUSE OF LORDS. The Loan CuaNcELLon, did not take his seat till twenty minutes past Five o'clock. Lord TEYNITAIII wished to ask the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, whether it was correct that the Government was about to issue a Commission for the pur pose of enquiring into the operations of the poor laws. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the Govern ment had thought it proper to issue such Commission for enquiring into the operation of those laws in dif ferent parts of the kingdom. He might as well say that he entirely agreed with his colleagues in the present plan, he had had some doubts on the subject, but they were entirely removed, and he thought no time would be lost by the adoption of the present mode. Lord ELLENBOROITGH hoped that the present Session would not be permitted to pass without some mea sure hieing introduced for the settlement of that question. The Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack had pledged himself that he would bring forward a plan of his own with regard to these laws. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he had not pledged himself to bring forward any particular measure on the subject. He certainly had the intention of having that subject brought before the House, but the recess, which he had enjoyed had been so very short, extending to not more than 10 or 12 days ; that it hal been out of his power to give the subject that consideration which he considered it necessary that it should have. The Marquis of SALISBURY observed, that the Noble and Learned Lord had correctly stated the answer which be.had given him during the sitting of Parliament before the recess. He wished that the Commission was now appointed, for the country certainly wanted and looked forward to a relief from them. Lord ELLENBOROUGH hoped that in the appoint ment of a Commission upon such a vital subject to a great mass of the population of the country, Government would not for a small saving want such men as were well acquainted with the subject. It was not a question on which money ought to be an object. Lord TEYNIIAIII gave notice that on Monday he would move for returns, relative to the importation of hemp and flax for the use of the navy. Earl GREY by command of his Majesty, laid upo❑ the table of the House papers relative to the ratification of the Belgian treaty. The Earl of ABERDEEN asked if the Noble Earl had an intention to make a motion on the subject of those papers. Earl GREY had no such intention. Lord CLONCURRY presented a petition against the tithe Laws.—Referrerl to the Committee. The Arbitration Bill went through Committee and was reported, without amendments. Lord ELLENBOROUGH wished to ask the Noble Secretary for the Colonies whether there would be any ob jection to the production of papers relative to emigration fur the last two years. Lord GODERICH apprehended there could be no objection to the production of such Papers. He would enquire how far such Papers could be made up, and inform the Noble Lord. Lord GODERICII, in answer to a question by the Earl of Carnarvon, that it was not his intention to bring forward the same Bill as was introduced last session relative to emigration—could inform the House that emigration from Great Britain and Ireland during the last Sear had been to our own colonies more than double that of any former year. He was happy, however, to say that notwithstanding such emigration the price of labour in Upper Canada had not fallen. (LEFT SITTING.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FrmitrAny I. ( Continued from our Second Edition of yesterday.) After a few words from Sir C. WETHERELL, Mr. IVEY LAND, and Lord Mir.rom, The House then went into Committee on the Reform Bill. On clause 16, which gives one Member to the Isle of Wight, being read, Mr. CROKER should not oppose this, as the Isle of Wight lost four borough Members, and this one was to be taken as a compensation given out of the Noble Lord's re presentative patronage. The clause was then agreed to. On the suggestio❑ of Mr. PRAEH, the consideration of the 17th clause was postponed. On the 18th clause, which enacts " that no person shall be entitled to vote in the election of a Knight or Knights of the Shire to serve in any future Parliament in respect of any freehold lands or tenements whereof he may be seised for his own life, or for the life of another, or for any lives whatsoever, unless the same shall be to him of the clear yearly value of ten pounds above all rents and charges payable out of or in respect of the same," &c., a legal discussio n of considerable length took place, in which Lord Milton, Sir R. Vyvyan, Mr. Jones, Lord Althorp, Mr. O'Connell, Sir C. Wetherell, Mr. D. Gilbert, Colonel Wood, Mr. Knight, Mr. Campbell, Lord John Russell, &c. participated. . . - On clause 19— Colonel WOOD said, that last session he had suggested the propriety of inserting 40s. instead of 101., because be thought that there ought to be no difference between the freeholder and the copyholder. The Committee, however, had then overruled him, and he should not, therefore, make a motion on the subject; bat contented himself with stating that his opinion was still unaltered.—Clanse agreed to. On clause 20— Sir R. HERON, with reference to the clause giving the right of voting to tenants at ‘s ill of lands or tenements of the clear yearly value of .50/,, should certainly object to the clause. It appeared to him quite impossible that a tenant who held lands at the will of another conld ever give an independent vote if that other desired to influence him. The object of this Bill was to get rid of the nomi nation boroughs, but it the clause to give the vote to tenants at will was adopted, the counties would beconverted into so many close boroughs. He was sure that the Lord MILTON accused the Hon. Member for Lincoln of inconsistency in his arguments. On the question about the division of the county of Lincoln, that Hon. Member had said, that if the proposed division took place, the whole of the northern part of that county would he thrown into the hands of one individual ; yet, upon the present question, he stood forth to declare the perfect indepen dence of those very persona whom, on a former occasion, he had represented to be so completely under the influence of one individual. The effect of the clause would be to make the elections in at least half the counties of England oligarchical.—(Hear, hear.) It would throw the power of returning Members into the hands of the Quarter Ses sions, or of a few potent individuals. Landed gentlemen would be induced to cut their estates into annual tenancies of fifty pounds a year each, in order that they might pos sess influence over more votes, introducing a system something like that which had prevailed so injuriously in Ireland. It was net disputable that tenants-at-will would be entirely under the controul of their landlords. Sir ROBERT PEEL thanked the Noble Lord for the speech be had just made in favour of the clause. If he had been inclined to vote against it, that speech would have convinced him that he ought to support it.— (Cheers.) The Noble Lord had talked of landed gentlemen dividing their property for the sake of creating votes ; hut it was impossible. Suppose, for instance, he (Sir R. Peel) had an estate of six hundred Founds a year let to six tenants, would he, or any man in his senses, be induced to alter it to holdings of fifty pounds a year, merely for the purpose of making six more electors, when, too, according to the Noble Lord's own showing, the franchise would b so comparatively worthless? if the feelings of humanity and honour belonging to the landed proprietors did not lead them to a contrary course, their interest would compel it. Looking at the principle of the Bill, nothing could be more conformable to it and to common sense than the insertion of this clause ; he therefore heartily concurred in it, and thanked Ministers for introducing it. . _ . . _ Mr. ADEANE did not think that 50/. tenants at will would be, at all events, more open to influence by land lords than the owners of 101. houses in boroughs. It, indeed, they were so liable to be swayed by dictation, they ought to be omitted entirely. Mr. HUNT was of opinion that 50/. tenants at will would be quite as free as tenants under leases for seven or fourteen years ; and he referred t,, the last election for Dorsetshire, asserting that no farmer in that instance had voted against the wish of his landlord, whether that land lord were Whig or Tory. Once adept his system of an nual Parliaments, universal suffrage, and vote by ballot, and property and character would only influence electors, and the same Members would be returned as at present.— (Cheers and laughter.) He should vote for the clause, because it was a clause of enfranchisement, sod had he had his way, he would not have disfranchised a single elector, however corrupt; he would have disfranchised only the nomination Peers.--( Hear.) Mr. HODGES having been always in favour of the extension of the elective franchise, so as to include a class of men upon which the burdens of the country chiefly fell, should heartily support the clause. Mr. BERKLEY (we believe) referred to what had been said by the Hon. Member for Preston, touching the last Dorsetshire election. He (Mr. B.) had a brother, who through life had been a Whig, and who had ex pressed a wish that his tenants in Dorsetshire should vote for Mr. Ponsonby. Nevertheless, these tenants at will had voted for Lord Ashley; and he was happy to he able to add, that they were still in the enjoyment of their farms. Sir R. HERON, with some warmth, repelled the statement of the Noble Marquis, that he had calumniated the farmers of England, and especially those of Lincoln shire. He defied the Noble Marquis to point out a land lord who was on better terms with his tenants. The Committee then divided— For the clause Against it Majority -240 On returning to the gallery, we found Mr. BARING referring, as we understood, to the 26th clause, stating that it was the last which had for object the regulation of votes and voters for counties, not includ ing, however, the subject of registration. He thought, therefore, that this was the proper time for looking back with a brief regard to what had been already done. He considered the whole proceeding futile, and that there was not the slightest chance by this new system of effecting the object Ministers appeared to have in view. At the late Dorsetshire election a striking illustration was supplied of the position for which he was contending, namely—that the machinery of the present Bill was in the highest de gree confused, intricate, and ineffective. The candidates had nearly polled out the whole county—the contest lasted for fifteen days, and after all there were 400 rotes upon which the assessor could not come to any deci sion, at least time enough for the purposes of the election. Well, it was clear enough that the system already exist ing, was in itself, abundantly complex to render any at tempt at simplification extremely acceptable ; but yet, in the Bill then before the House, they were presented with a system which went to aggravate the evils which had long formed the subject of universal complaint—to the numerous classes of voters already possessing the elec tive franchise, the Bill added copyholders, tenants for long terms, and tenants at will, and raised a variety of questions, increasing the complicacy of a mode of voting and of qua- .! lifications, the great want of which was not increased, but diminished machinery. It passed his comprehension to imagine how it could be possible for a set of reasonable and intelligent gentlemen to adopt a plan for county elections— perhaps the most absurd which the perverted wit of man could devise. The effect of the franchise established by the Bill would virtually be to occasion county elections once a year, and though the actual expences might not be so great at what would be called the election, yet, from there being a constant annual charge, it would render the real expences of the candidate greater than before—it would, in fact, produce an enormous increase in that ex penditure, for there would never be a cessation to the scru tinies and the contests in every county in England. He confessed he thought voting by rate would be not only more simple, but more just and equitable than voting under and according to certain specified tenures. There was a suggestion on this subject he thought not unworthy of attention—which at least was infinitely preferable to anything which the Bill contained ; namely, that a certain number of the rate payers in a county should be invested with elective fran chise. Thus, the county of Dorset at the late election polled 4,000 electors. He would suppose that 5,000 might have been polled. Now, if for that county 5,000 of the highest rate-payers had been selected to vote for the Knights of the shire, he thought it would answer all rea sonable purposes, and be vastly more simple, convenient, and efficacious, than any thing for which they were in debted to the present reforming Administration. He need scarcely observe, that the principle thus applied to Dorsetshire might, with perfect ease, be applied to any other county, according to its population and circumstances. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that, in meeting the Members of the House in a Committee upon the Reform Bill, he of course expected to find them agreeing to the principle of the measure, and proceeding throughout as Reformers ; but the Hon. Gentleman who had spoken last went far beyond anything which could have been expected from him—far beyond any thing which could have been anticipated from one who, at the introduction of the mea sure, appeared so adverse even to those changes which the Bill proposed. The Hon. Member was nothing less than Lord ALTHORP eald that it was intended by the C;o -vernment to adhere to the present practice.--(Hear.) After a discussion, in whicli sir E. Sugden, Lord 1. Russell, Lord Althorp, and Mr. Shed took part, respect ing the wording of the clause, it was agreed to as at first proposed. The question was then put upon the 24th clause. Mr. PRAED objected to the Committee's proceeding upon the clause, because he had given notice of a motion for which he was unprepared in consequence of the ab•- sence of an Hon. Friend, one of the Members for the University of Cambridge. Lord ALTHORP did not think that there was au , ' reason for the postponement of the dame. Mr. PRAED could not refrain from expressing his deep regret that the amendment which had been suggested during the progress of the Bill in the last Session had not Been made a part of the present Bill. He was disposed to press its adoption, because he was of opinion that the agri cultural interest, to which it was meant to give additional strength, had been unfairly treated by the Ministers in framing this Bill ; and in proof of this assertion he must lieg to recal to the recollection of the House the fact that the Bill proposed in schedule A to disfranchise 56 boroughs, and in schedule B SO, taking away from those places 142 Members, which, it was impossible for the supporters of the Bill to deny, chiefly represented the agricultural inte rests. On the other hand, in schedule (, it was proposed to establish 22 new boroughs, and in schedule D 19, giv ing in all 63 new representatives to the commercial and manufacturing interests—a change which it was impossible to deny would greatly affect the agricultural interests, and which would place them, under the new Lou. stitution, in a condition entirely strengthless. His amendment would be found to have a basis as well in equity and reason as in the ancient law of the land, which, According to Blackstone, lays it down that the Knights of the Shire are the representatives of the landed interests, and that the citizens, burgesses, and traders, are' repre sented by the Members for boroughs. Whitelock els° says on this subject that the Knights of the Shire are the proper representatives of the inhabitants of the counts the hamlets, and parishes ; and he says he has little doubt that they were called to Parliament long before any Mem bers were required from towns or boroughs. His propo sition :was founded on the very principle on which the Noble Lord opposite (Lord John Russell) had formerly advocated the addition of Members for the towns of Bir mingham, Manchester, and Leeds. He had been told that by the operation of the first part of his amendment he wished to shut out from the constituency of the Knights of the Shire all the intelligence of the towns; hut he denied that such would be its effect. The Hon. Member concluded by moving that after the words " In respect to estates," &c., in line 13 of clause 24, be left out, and the following inserted in their place :—" That no title to vote for the election of a Knight of the Shire be conferred by any property situate within the limits of a borough which shall, by the provisions of this Bill or otherwise, return a Member or Members to serve in Parliament :—That every man seised of freehold lands or tenements, of the clear yearly value to him of 401. above all rents and charges, si tuate within the limits of a borough returning a Member or Members to Parliament, shall have the right to vote in the election of Members for such borough." The CHAIRMAN put the amendment. The amendment was, that no freehold within the ho-- rough should give a right of voting for Knights of the Shire. Lord JOHN RUSSELL admitted that the principle on which the Hon. Member had attempted to found some of his arguments was that which was to be discovered in both Blackstone and Whitelock. Yet, practically, the Mem ber for a rural borougk represented the agricultural inte rest to a very considerable extent. He would not con sent to sever interests which happily were, even at present, united and blended in the present House of Commons. With all its faults, it had this one important redeeming advantage. He foresaw that the proposition of the Hon. and Learned Member would, if adopted, go a great way to deteriorate the constituency for the boroughs of Eng land, and in the end would produce too great a pre ponderancy on the side of the landed 'interest. He must therefore oppose the amendment. Colonel DAVIES had before opposed the clause, which it was now intended by the Hon. and Learned Mem ber should be altered by this amendment. He hoped the Noble Lord would reconsider the subject, and adopt the amendment. Mr. HUME objected strongly to the amendment, be cause of its object, which was neither more nor less than disfranchisement.--(No, no.) Certainly it was—namely, the disfranchisement of voters in borouAis, having free holds in the county contiguous to the borough. So far it was a disfranchisement, as respected the franchise of such voters fur the county. If this amendment were to be introduced, as he had heard it would be in another place hereafter, he trusted the Noble Lord would stand firm ; for in his mind it would be preferable to reject the Bill altogether than clog it with such a* inconsistency. Sir E. SUGDEN contended that this was not a ques tion of disfranchisement at all, but whether the voters sv circumstanced tiers to retain their votes for the borough or for the county. Indeed the amendment of the Hon. Member was only a revival of a clause out of the Noble Lord's former Bill. How then could the Hon. Member for Middlesex affect to say that he would rather give up the Bill altogether than let this amendment be introduced ? Had he not already said " Take the Bill, with all its im perfections, as a boon ?" Was it consistent then in that Hon. Member to reject the Bill for having introduced into it a clause similar to that which was to be found in the very Bill he advocated the last session ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the present law was, that every freeholder had a right to vot, , for the county. This Bill would diminish the influ ence of towns in the county. The proposition of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman excluded freehold property which was not of a sufficient amount. The Bill would diminish the influence of towns and give an advantage to the agricultural interest. The landed interest had a greater advantage than they had when the former propo sition was brought forward. Such a clause must increase the number of votes in the agricultural parts. He did not think that the Hon. Gentleman had a right to complain of this clause as increasing too much the influence of the a t s ov i n t . at r l p 'l r te es g en ro t un s d to u . p i o , n wa w s h t i h c a h t h t e he su g p i p v o in rd gtethtehe clause, as certain degree of influence in the election of Members for counties, was an advantage to the 'counties. Sir ROBERT PEEL would support the amendment , to be barristers . for n im a P p li pti d nte t d he te la d w eterm i :n o e r tt th,ee because rfirstg h tl timofe thought voting. oligr it e greatly readr t e h a e t !try:, were the borough than of interest—part to bedrterrained by na•laisrbeotitterottcousrurbiniegctinto examination be foresh taicvhe the certain purpose,aa classbarrister, a county barrister, and part by the borough. He would