The Sun. — London, England, 1811-01-29 00:00:00

t., -vt • , . ~..- . . .rt V 1 speetly ree6vdrjr !nig ~„..... , u live Abotorify , ' filep"reven the necessity OrtfulYr deft letity of the txl,t. ,k. ~ , .... ‘ _, l i .s PAl,Yni(nngigli;,ether L.,,,i?lll(lies',"The' -st.',l;e(r)itceiv4..):ltv...hatde.,.? Majesty had sustained in. the trig .ationittilohl ofoifie timed a1,,,,a.c1e,e eiluse i t:orrikiis 3010,-", what ~\V eie the , op 1 11;4' piiweg. Oo this poin,4 ;';'ite inons of the •I\l,,thle Lords 01)1Y.5_...,_.,, ey knew ,i;e Who were in i office when that evil oedurred) llt p,,:wier, hex , came into siteltiert,of his.,lll,tiesty v41011(1 . were , .., , wi %,„.it.,11 toy while they retuatneo to puwer,..a. would proceed to say a dismissed from power. He few words Qn the gei;era., su j_ec . ~ L a asked t. Why r • w b. °' t of I,Bt/j6ti!)ll on ' ru'i .- t''' T t ' Noble Earl "li ‘l'‘ i . ' ..". .cl %he (4en . 'e ~. It ,iisii with ItSPL tot lithif the power 01. the-Vit.. 8z i,.., B ecause it could It o the ,h 1' the navy! .c the cyunti.y4 ~Asrto ' !not be done with security t 9, tt : , ; ( 1 ti the inconveniences of the Pr"l'°" Noble' Friend, toint had been so well argtied by iris teasure, that ld- stiOt 'enter woo _ Oct the cross bench, that he intimations Of the 'upon it. Advertittg, to. the , ex; 1;1 cif _ ~.;„. i'nysiciatis he c.,utended that the ter ., . r a ‘ l , - , ‘ ,, v , elv 1 Itet Ate rei;tri,:tion, . the . 111°"11' 1)101,0'ell AS I .1 ‘ ' ' 1 had drawn ' .a con most expedient. The Noble'Eal , , , i 4, coun., tract betwee n the respective situatio of ._,.; H was not try in t 78, and the pr.eu.t period Let .0e Htiose afraid to meet him on that ground: r at 1 1, e y --Let toein loo k . look at the critic of t te - nay ' ' state of . the art»y--'lei them ~,, rise sti,-)e -6t. look at the state . of the finances LT them IcH* the re.enne—lpt thein lok at the i t 1 75.1f.1 lod-At th e the comthetc-2, of the country on 1 t,-;-...`.,. -1. ,' e _ Presctit period, and the ct.:rnilpea`rison I lie knew would r lute the assertions of .tite' -N,bk', .E'ir, ~„Li „n.., th..,t 'hy 'evetvts,. width it, fs,,t*,,:,q,;ut u . , Lid: ~ • Nket, which or fici.lia C Colose3l- M AN "' had' • I Eur Ope i , ""1 30 1.zed iie,,lly all th e rtiources 0 , , t ower Dtli ;i1 ltiQ 421111 e lily 11i4t, he knew! what:lihk. P he Add diini., ;tilt! Whit 'iv -W d.. c31,3b1e °I d9lll' le:- i kn •ew tihit Great hritain atone had bee" a,itimAnd st.)Attely to duly that. p‘i%:er,.litid 'to vo',l Land_ its encOactntients. He kitevy, 1113: Uri°lWittlill ijO i ing the assettioos Of ihe' NOhre Earl, .`..red,.i,.,t 'the stood in a.situatiotn ,so prondXr 'elii!h:e"to ni4'l.o.oN liedit of evqy man who waanilot .an,._,Eug .1 security, intist paitt with desire to be ottr. %Jur INt! ()we to tke energies of the people, u by : uhyler th, British CotailliTti,o4...lloo .1 4eete exerted sc i, . S, 1 • n',..ivereign . 4, WUO had (wet..lll3(ln their interests his own, , . , t , t.);. i.,. a non. `lht: Duke of I{v.wr eXpresser: his 4130iirch . °I. tj.'e iNti(jiett iti toi,), but declined it to behis in t i e to.vute for the Amendtueol,, " l'''e gr9 ' ll of that it, would b.: al.Lis evil to'sulpnd the Puwers the 4egent.for iiiihniinlstiviti .fCtr,,(WeiVe. I , .14118, 034'0ti.:61,` ill ,'ipilifiatii)i), 0ve1.ir , .,1 in ?e JaCtilf 1116' Cuuilti'l; 116ti'Vfl',.re ‘‘. as lull 0(10 aA .to, which he ‘t,; a 4 il Paety at the. .ierit'id wli.t.;ii had !teal ;11.11atidel f° , l l l , the '&lo,',re-Elo.l,..which.hu, w-st'°.' e---3 li ` ) ' v ew and defe!'nd • Wiih respeet t, 0 46. Year I 80i, he molt ;, 1• t he had .heard a . . ~.,, 1 1,1 Yearn as to-tle health of his Alajesty (ti l er.,. be came intOolliee in IVini.c.' h), ~,, 11,(.11 excited i 1144 5, itnedt in the mind s of his Col,.. -,v,;:10,,, an i . ( k in .the 11'411(4 af.other cif Peiso. ages, ; %:v9° :w ere : het ltt.r acquaintei t‘,il.ll the cirti.Onisl'ances o'f,,fhecase). the uhoost stoplis,. dud iiitouisl,:neni. On t ick ~ 5.,.:',b, jea he wou,'. not add a sing'le %vont, but n'. (.71- tend t (I that there wa‘ il.t att ,t;1 of the Adtni.itslra" 1. °Afilha( day Which w,h, nest cum; Ickly jos. ifi . 14 `.'e- 'lnverting to tilt: ,tr,:ss laid by rise Noble L. r..1:0p. videncecl 1)r. iii, laid ah tk.ql.l l ;) to s'oev that the slate of his 111,1i...sty's health, t, inn Feb. to Ap r il, 18°6, Was tuitev,ltiroble,) ilkiOlJell.eci lila! ;lie xm. tnination of the l'hse:iai Of t boo, Dr. Heber'. ~ . , (I , et 't was one,' .gi'Vett in it,ie ptriod it:,ell ,Wes ca st - u : -- : 44 =4 in make 'a different ioyre,sion. I:t !flying lb"' ;Ti " a " . • fir Itnnt i'l;sittilani,".6 4:ritly undue! I""tivei- to 1,:i544, tfeerden, but such wai the ...ft;,A, .`,..1:1',e 4,,,-:insi-- tratio n of tint day .was Oerft , ( tly ittstinui'.l a"--ii-'' 4ti.would appvar whenever ti.v.ti,Ao,jci Slugh" be '- v"liPted, On the 26th of'Nlatch hi:, AlaittitY's re" ct've'Y had been' • &il-tied by •11 the I);iysiuja 4 3 i" , 3 the 91" i\li:ll,ol.n. :A ONti'lleil tichiv't:; be. '1)0,1 "0 t • ' , (is": 4 ,,1- )1 'll . ., ,the P.liyhici.aiiii 040 bqing ~ que.st iittic,,dr,,,si'i‘itti.l declared } t h at his Nlajcsty vv;;s coiopetent 10 r Ilt the Council, wioch however, NV aS out ae(uallY held fi ll the v3d of that rout h. The boke of Gt.oveSTl:tt Ich it ittip(Nslble t`). Riv e a hilent vote ott the present occa , ion., lie there- , Riv e Cleclared that he vhoultrvote for Cut . . A ethl‘ne"l. ~Lotd aced COntendeds; i hat the cooduCt of the, N, °hie Lords, at the.period' Nvinco had been under ti t ,, Lords, Wholly Inijit,.idiekl by plecedelas °I. otherwike. The Noble Lund Ltd chosen to term. , t he epee of the Nooro Viscount, on ,the ; cross 't'e)i, tin ittwerttl," altli:olL;li it ha d beeo ie vc)inPletely answred. by his "bit= Friend near him. • What was the statit.hird by wh'icli 'the comparatwe farce i ., of the arguments urged. by' the two :NOW° . '4u k '6, rntiq be estimated i Tiie Constitution, ,I,..)20:1. lueN"ble ',Olds opposite helit.v.-e that the Royal • ) .1' rop,ativ,s ~,ere Vested ih the C1OVI:n for the betkefit of the peeple 'Did they believe. 'that FiousO Silting. then (I,i tfitiy diet' did sit) the re presentatives of the people, that people. had ti a light to demand that those prerogatives she ,l he ex ert. l ' e d solely. fur their heneftt ? WhoeVer, therefore, attempted to . invalidate itte argutnenOt of his Noble Friend must t io it, howevet unintentionally., by a !allitcY—theY ti lust do it by pliteitig the perso n of the Sovereign 14 contradistindion t o the political 'charmer of the Sovereign; --.4t had beiul Elskeil, what were the in ohvealences c,l the' proposed measure ? He 'would answer that it wa s a pret':edent for curtailing the Pcrerogdtives of the Crovo. It was ',.dr4 t. 4 diminution of other prerOgatives.' Opening ,a.do.or The Noble try l 'ord had clioien Co compare the present period *il l' that of 118 k. For' . is part; should the.eoun trY he attacked in itself by the foe, he' felt the utt tti)ost confidence in r the tvsuli ; but Heave!, forbid 01.1,4"L'eli an tVent should occur:: If, however, it ~ o uld do So, the strength of the country would be fu old not ii, the organization of the GoV,erninenr, lucid'b'n the mass and enetgy of the • people. When ever tha t. linhappv day might come proud, though Chelan , h , . • ' :ffitdio de ' -4 .. (=•,r, as the restilt might be to England,. who were most eager in 'the defenc e 01 their ivaoil,,those Who were the ready " to Pluck I.lP,'lrowning honour bk the locks," Would have a t ittnt I'delband froMfGOvernment why themselve, , (l us t wh'e, and their children, bad been etpoied to .a situation of snob peril. , The event of that in ' 1,t1,1?7 ' r nig . lit go to khake the sittiatiOn of *their Lord- Itnis themselves, and, in his opinion, the evil vvahl , .only lb - be averfe'd by a stria atlherence to th e prin. ciples of the C onstitut i on. H e should vote for the Amendment of his Noble Friend, for the saute rea 'son'that•had just been given by an'lllustrlo t is . Per- .'lonake; namely, that it was the; less' evil. fie . was convinced th.tt if the prerogative had .be en e ntr usted entire io his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, not the ,remotest idea would have entered his mind of Making use of The prineipleS Of r dnty, of feel ing, and of affeCtion would, have restrained his Royal Highness more than any ,clause that could be con triVed to restrict him. The Noble Lord then enter ed intb air examimiiion Of 'the evid t n ee (it the Phy sicianq, and : comended,, tIL t . from - the'evidence of Dr. Heberden, he had,a right to assume , all the in ferences- drawn &Om that evidence by ,his Nagle , - Friend. The'LORD CHANCELLOR spoke in support of the Clause, as it originally stood. HIS L or d s hip t h oug h t that Leo - tight not . to haVe been selef;ted from among his Majesty's lqinititers, fOr the purpos'e * Of being H i complained of, as he had been by two Neble - Lords (Grey and !Moira)• in - particular,. in 1801 and 11;94,, p(triOds i to. which allusions° htidAv%eti 'made, he h.)d, aard coticrq with h; .colleagues i Hav ing acled with the other Aliti•ster, of Lis., Majesty Upon thtse ocessiont , , he d.g not think that fi he alone ought to be, sele6ted,from amoirg , thetu, 'for the pur pose~o►,c4,u+tl?ittit,iugof his eotiduel upon .those occa • }pe en. I •I • 1 t • • • stuns. .i.iving - een. llq tO j\llol9oll to he cool I not - n't hltristati taint in.:31.15t-t) , ii l'AVay t hatrxv•ii h a respe.ct- Itqopedience, to the kotptita,nds:soi,his 6olTreign. • It there was any part of his : contlut3,, dnriyg eiti)yr of those periods, that w•f? riot Whdt it ouLy,fit been, he wotild , beg point it out. The • measures: th,-. , v)4ll , .:tal4en pie vious t,,, and on the tyh :AI 1‘,.0.1., were d 4- teriuined - on by his Majesty'; after , pealed ,esaminations of 1116 - Phys cians 5 , ‘,.()L; the Privy .Council,. •,,By virtue of .his °thee he had' a most important duty to perfmn to his :Sovereigit; rind to perform' that duty to the ukinost,p(hisii4iet he find ; iken ni) oath to proceed to th‘.. dexhrorting 'of hes:Sovereign upon the tVklearce . of Physicians—he had ,a dqty to perform.tahis Say - vereigt. It wal 'not t keretore to be,suppos'ed thikt he had adediWithriut He had not ; ite•had haul the concurrence of their exa mination to 3.nstily li:s conduct. Nor did he trust to their report, tor e had deemed it tit to have per-, sonal comomnicati,:ti with his M ,, ji,sty. Those , communications with his Majesty were completely unrestrained, for when •aLordsbipwas wittphiS Majesty, those persons ‘vol ct absent : wit!) hag been iirthe habit 11:Lit, in order that there rni , ,:ht he no 1•:-..itaint. In.prirStiance of such`eu anti ti Ilion aud of such commnnich lion with his Maju,tty, • hiy. I f ordshiphafifsli t himsell jtAtified in applyitte Ow Great Se -7 '4,as he did on the : - the 9 , h of MAreh. ikell'ivasilis Ma at that t pvriodo,hat .his' Lordship coupe ran but o , •serve, that his Mejesty W 34 better a,v/ore . , of the, tluty`lhat LUia - chaticelior) h.tcl ,to perform,. than evett belAvaitrtir*ielt,'• From H tfie"ediititiet of • his Lordship tip, o acrit.ect - --tsion IstaleSl9 4 er•n• tinned on the Thr.nrii,.and al he, kod„iictedo}v.vpng, • he held himself 'ffsponsible for what i he . ,did, ,11 he tailed in the .thi wi[li jut tire' which, he thought betshoultt not, liteill'ibtihr still' find justice in the eye of Gad for WlLiLhei.badl:done4 gni Gator explained ; The precise,ch , ajw.vhich he 'had madetigattijit 'the Noble . and Learned 'Lord (Eldon) was: respectint; his conduct in Marai, , Trig NubL ikk - td,. Learned 14ord had corn pLarred of havingbeen selected mina among the other Ministers of his Majosty ; but according to the practice of the COrrititution„.ity othor, person iesPOnSible for the N)14;36.11, of the Great Seal.. t itt a. constitutional point of •view 'they knew nothing of the (2ounnittee-, 7 they had only to lotik to those who used the Great ,Se ,d.. that, grptutchi he contended that they had b e en Just,itied select lug the Nobttrand Leathed Lordun Woidsack trotaarnong the.Ministers r of his Msjesty, for her it was that applied the Great Seal to the coistatston other The awftil day of trial nii, ; l,l come, when they have td determine w bet iter 'suchapplicatiou.,vl the, Great :Sear Was' riglit'Vr wrong, and if it should be fotind, that by, such:ap plication'of the Great Seal, the Minister tiad viol led his duty, 'his' Lordship 'thoutlit that ;tilt Noble :and Learned Lord (Eldon) would;own tAt it was he, and he alone, who wfts responsible,- lie wiibld again repeat`Mtat had before siid, that during Yebroary, from tho itibTo the 't..?4d'rif down to the t h•of Mho 'in that year ( ftlo4), his Majesty, as appeared froin,-the erctuntiatiott -, of the ‘PhysiNans, had heen attended by Pr. Simmons, and it was in evidence that lad during that period controul over his Majeoy.' It also .ap peared that the state of—the -King's mind was such, that: he was obliged: to hat et such at CendanCell That, Honse were the guardiansuf,the ber!ditary rights of the Crown. and of the People, and their Ltttdships were now calied upon dl decide whet her they . wunid .prevent a further usurpation of thl Li i ly authority. He was friend to ,the principl e or liraitatku, though he,should support the-Ameridinent, but he would take an early opi-ortunity or opposi4tg'the li :tunations now proposed: Lord ELnoN.explained: After some observations, he observed that the ,two Noble - Lords- (Grey and 'Moira) had expressed their (4 teller of . hi,, responsi bility upon theoccasions tch. hien they,had'ailutded, but neither of theta: had. said that he icar respon ,sidle; and had they, there. was no bingo:l , 4 e wlikh could be used in the:Company of Gent!enren with propriety to give a denial, 'but what he would adopt to convey a- contradiction to any anclvassettion The House .then divided on the Amenduietll, when the numb.."..were— Contents C P M e Rt r • ? Proxies • • • • 34 r—. 122 Presn . , Non Conte n ts et ' sot Proxies . , SI Majority against the Amendment . 1 7139 • A second division took,pLicb on theoriginal clause, When the numbers were-- contents Pr"e.at . • • .- • • • >i:. Proxtri Sr. - Pres Non Contents :....ProX e i ll e t - 1 39 S '' originally stood . . - - " On 'eur re-admission beltiw,the far, we fOtffia Lord CLA,WAIITY 911'.164 tz Ite-contendekiii - an epergeticol manner, the clause respecting thediousehold as it had _originally stood,•previtStts-to the Amendment in theiConimittee, - but tbtight that some !s', , ecitic. atid edi-itinct.:.tneaSure.khonlof he adopted before the passing ef the Bil;, railieo than the arrengernents 'QC: that • parti.Allar'ilepaitni..mt should be postponed to a:sithsequent period. With that view he .submi.tted to, the Home two clause-, the first allowing the Prince Regent . tlieLcontroul over all that part of the Household which had liere ,tofore been thought peces;aryuo the support of the dignity And splendour of.: he Kingly °llse, and the second ,itivesting in the.Qoeen the ,cont roul over the subordinate otficers,;such as the Vice Steward, the Vice Chambexhiin,Jrc.--..-- Atter some -convermitiou - between the Earl of Ltv “0.00 :and the Mariluis these clauses, the 'quesliOn. ° was put from the Woolsack, and . they. were '.'netatived without a division. ' ' ' • := Lotd favnarbot. - 1.11 , .'n moved, thit the amend ment viliThh ! l ad been in the Committee in the Clause respeOing theq-lousehold; sitbuid be omit ted, and that the Clause r in its original form, should be substituted. • • The. Marquis of , Dowwstnaa 'took - ihaf Oppor tunity of declaring his , sentiinetits-iipon the ineasutes which hail hern . proposedll,,consoquence-of the me lancholy situation otthis.Mpjesty. To .do this, he prinCipallyiUdpcedAy itis.knowlcdge of the diz lidtiltic!;• t 4) Irelau4 ieducedminle the Government was in 'f'dti piralysed by the st:Ts wttiCliliti'd' been proposeLla ioe present Minister,„ The situation in ulna - that country was placed„va% atistwhilmatuee, 'ttitirthe oydietk6l-igglelfd ) eitrient Oovvrnment only epold,,saVe froca.destlukfoii: With th'is feclink detimed it, incumbent on, him to the reftriaiOnsodthe they eouicklitrly tend . to.deprive'iiini , ethht power ,yotifts ! . 33tiatlY Pec.essavyvictiheAue suppomoi his itnportant office, and to the wel s fpre of flip, U.4Aited I;trd . a wish that , tthe Ntlhieivrailitils - (LansdovFne); tiv, tiiii to the pr,fsent withdraw the clause AS-it 'had'ile!. it - passed in the c.19.11-141i4ea. 4nd:between ;that...,tiluevnitthe ensuing day prepare, u,clau,e that would JJetixte in disri,nct teecos`The ibeasures in his (t i.e Noble _,Mar, Ctuis's) ttyi id, inight . be•Tho,i expedient tor' (lie ad- " vantage : pc the.cotuttry and the.clignityot the'Ptlnce to, , ackmt. , his (Lord : I4:oijrigkion's) estimation, nettling could be iii-)re indecorous or trioredisrespect ful then. to;strin the'lint:olotAcc: i as iiid . bc;eri pro pospil t in,--the original clauie, t,ttall those extern - al mar ksof 9ler , idour which, (fa' ages, had been C - onsideteil as . ino4t, couch': V. , tsi ists sup. plartq.atid• te4pteelabilitY: TO place the Proust:llold upotT.,‘,.sugh .a ,tboting;“.he tltbtt,ilt, wbeld. hb - ;he most. anonialotii proceedingr,that:..eagld Irascibly tae Sirgtested. The nilly stib,tit.uke ,th4t 4enn t ir,st ii, lintAi'ever; for this ino3i otitiox.iotis .:ad !in ' proper, course was, ' , That ha'cl subro•:tt e d ny the, Noble Itilarqiiis (Lattailiwite.)r hetoutir Hitt atrnid, if the Nonle , ...ll , lintittis continued. tp Abide 'by that Pttin, t fiat it tni.tht be ittviled with .Consideratile ineptly tiienet!'; •he * touli‘fil(? bet ty,. thei efore,.,of,, urging .his Lordship in ~ ;(Ict tile subjkl, and to come forward with some specmc proposition,` which would tae ti pleasantr...necessitY -hereafter 'of itnpn,;i4.g oil ilk 'loyal Highness the odium of so.k.tt/ T ion6;ou ti - . a task, as that of again drawing-the attention of par liament to a subject ,sndelicate .41)dooteloolly,e4n ticcted*"with tint feelii,g, (if his houtht ite•' best and.most 'sat i..fattOry to . pur sue would be, at once to prig tile for the'petStina , 'dignity and spleodour Dl'', the linvereign and the Regt:iii, in Well a way : as, to,_ be, conducive to the' reSpet;t of the. one, while ' it did not increaie .the rival of the other. . This could be done by a.aingle a(t, inatt'e'aid of a Intuit! Sessious. would not , be I' required. Should the Noble 'Marquis, feel disin clined to adopt this.suggcstibn; he (Lordliorrin,g -don.),:harklit-4 cobtenaplat ion to offer an tuetu ob:eitt of. which would .be, tee leare , alP the , otters intending the Royat . Per§nn as tbriE u y,:ere , during , fils largess,- and', as he had already a!tited i. provide fot-t splendoUr 'IAA-dignity of the rietne in a &stip:A manner. make - arrangements,' Icrunded on the .probal?le reeevery ,othis..,Majesty withtri-t-tVelVe' or. eighteen ninOths, ,he could'npt blit-provounce..as eittretnely indelicate, 'and lon iPleLtily;lit.,vaoauce ,vvi,th:the general feelingS'of iTie 'ettiuutry, The Noble Lard euquiedeit ,by express--; _Mg a confident htipe, - that the Noble Marquis wOeld see the ft)rce' "Mit ; :ireiriient, - and agree with h r itti H in the improptieiy of , inuntuCtlig The subject again to Parliament in two or thteettlontiwt l 0n Hn invidious and unbecoming manner. „Lord licititA 'Was' perSuaded 'that nething was . 'moreloreign,to the wishes theaugnst PerSonage , had been alluded, to, thitilthe iOO -of, the' Royal 'Pewee over`iii Household. In . niutt,.tlte;inost simple expe'diLnt mode to ,aditpt wmild be,, to It lye , a ch. pariment independent of the . Royal 1-h,usch9ld .in,e.,vo4',,p,aliGaidil ,and me le4Ve' all the preSent appolinnietits as they were, in.-the hope of his Majeslt's Speedl - recoVery. `Such a 'proceeding, he :11:11 • convitctid, 'Would be enthely cordwat with the widiei ot _hN Royal. Higitite4x ; : - 'who 'telt Most anxioi.4.; to ~v till any pr weeding.. might give pain to his itoyal Parent, tar, whose recovery, in .cOnjuitt!lion with the whole country, he. entertained the most sanguine wishes. Lord BotturNonoN explained. Tile 'Marquis of LAi.isnowiig expressed the highest respect for the .opinion of.hii Noble Friend (Lord Borringdon), with' whose suggestions, how ever, ,he regretted he_ could, noticoistorde F as.he telt it would be departing from his oliginal plan to wirb-., draw his AMendment. In Submitting a pl an to Parliament,. he deemed it nrcessary, itt the fnstin stanee, to lay down the great outlines of it,..atri. to proceed' to the details afterwards, was- the , co&t'se he had chalked nut fu r : hiMself ' ON the present occasion, anci.lie lEici no doubt that lie -;woulJ be able to convince his Noble„Friend and the 'House, that had not set out Upon a vague or an Milts:loci vie of - The subjea. -As to the-right and pr;nciple 0. the 1-3ousel.old being divided, he had iii hesita tion in„ admitting,. that rt diVision ought to fiite 1 place; but it was . 0 question ler further con,idera- r ;:S) ) • ) Lien,- tctw that division was to be _f"l4f6led. He no Obiri;11011 then to state to Ilid LsOuS:!, hid ner filch he.coneeived the divr;ion should take place, with adoe regard to tlu cumf.irti as. Well ) as the dignity of hi,s Majesty, Awing .11iS Tii,. three . gr,vak estat)lislicuents.to .whiehltis ,I:ijesty had of late years heel] , attaeltz.d, 'and frciai cd! leis comforts and enjoyments seemed to 11.: derived, xt:ere those of ._"Windsor;-:the.Queents House.,.and,Kew 'these he did not intend tw rotteht nor did.,tic. inteadto 4ititcrtere. with bog longing to i he.•rl. With ;expect ro the .Grett of . 1 116 , A :hold, however, a , kf ;:t h e : ukii Stcward,, ti.o Mas.ler of tliellicirse , ,tize.: thoie. hti conc,..ivod'iiiight to' be devoted to the Regenti . wititkli he wouti.l,ol;ow the:Queen tistt•contriitsit.initl4r-Waci otts sob i)linateQtliecri, such ttS ilrittet4• of the Horse,. ,atid to w hoot he- shnoliti Oa ; add the .Proom of the &itole.,-.lls. mote fintrktii l a the his IViajesty's .ftei~uirt. zI Thi4-I(stt7 line, lie : co 4ceived, wpula tsQty. yin t , dit he .fm. i s. he telt e.very" disposition to prnv:JileActcottte-the_rrA4ll and the comfort of his ,Itrol4•.1 wily, irbe - had hi'S plan SO we.l arraii s:" 1 he dill not intro'lt it without further deli) ?, would answer, that sucli an'ar'i - angelittl4,l.-Nottld r Ock fore it cotild ba Carri,d ad% insteiri:;tsf . of Various acec.Oinis, c..1,t;,i 4 .0 , ;.411,. settled after by a enmto;tic,., it m theree : r i . ( * 3 - 6pixi.ir'eyitti-t for him'tiPprepate ilk elapse in ;inch a fotny'oy morrow as to be earl ied into e 4 . wit1ipp1,(34149344 4 . fie'cduld agrtie tvi di, his, No* Vri...141, ( 1 101,04, Borringdon) that any (I ;rep of odiuta t wokal o id)iwf fte'eted (411 the august personage alluded.. introdueifirin tpe sutject hereafter, ti.e luoic espe-t irialif when it . N . Vis e. id :it: that ;.itly.bourtit ,vir,111444 was` to he derived from the arrangetnent would('.4 . d.2pend upon the tittle was. tii;cui, q consult the interest the ... country, by a stri::t Vestigstion _and a regard 10 0 ..,.-pc0n , ..)w1.-- (10oh..tliese groundsi tt Was, that he felt if cessary to,ground Isis motion .niv,.ll it then stood; :to,: it wag _ _........„ ... to make .any alteration. if, 11 , iwever,..:40. ble 'Earl (Liverpool) should pr. v t ii,,.2litl. chtat • a majority `iii fat,our of his.,Atorm,dtneut, he (t. c i\larquis of,, Lansdowne) should s pi.. till op”k3. t, ,e .4!- final Ciateie,','and''-Stippii r l • airy 4iiiewlineri: wi,ici i i his' Noble Friend, or any other Ncitile Lard, Int e Ac propose. r ' • The E.srl of 1.,IVEI11)001. Collleflat'{i irhlt :flit!, .4; 5 .1 ' jeci ileis rakeNi in 1759, were in :t great . dey,ree uO viatod 'in • 'the. pr.:scut insrance,'k, r ifle fitni.tatiolLot time:. A great part of the objecii 4 )io ili,eo . it! ost;tlloni qv. ciretiinstante of the time 1 el'44{niiipited,,thyttio Which,tht, proVi4ions were to ren i,;ilO i:j i icirr.e„ • ifr )Viii of opinion'tt 'wool/I'l'llV., been b.;;(tfiile'l,,...lt).,atiche!...ll.!.w svhole of the 1 - looseliold over ti,.ttlB l . l , Vitb. , ! 4cililt yelt. .•1.-le' te'lretted 1 hat t i lle f 1 - tr.iTs .. #4 Am' j cpttr i i ti co r r e 'i. I vtith'iiiAlli) :Ipruo, ihg of i . lii i t 151 am 10?9j,iipii, 4 to tivit he Iltoltlir'fite 'p; - t,'..isit;tt ruadatly (lie flo r ist:. of Commons the,,betti thyy c,....1d al.liltpf.' .4 " ' , .. lantrd• Garsloiii.i.c., on vt , -.‘e!ittle ti4 ll ll . ltCle" . . ,, e'iri t . . - , , , , . „.. iv , proposi• ions, that had boen oKitfe"; l • 4 4iari.ldff *hti..glimii)) , iii,slyinl i, hat, of , al I ,i he iplaits'tkoViiNtiftte skl`tf,i' l'. l. 1 ed., thiti t.apotevect n6hythie l'f4li..tse , crt'o4fffliitilli‘t!`;r: l the worst. ~ It toolc , ifrornoirlit;ikAteeit tl , ii. att. , ,i4.,...;' ment of the poople, , tand took 'll4Chtth in') i lie Ili tiOeOi..ii! r. accessary. , to , carty• ctn.', itre-Gottirriit'SOA't; ', add' l'i- , t't,' , l ill the ,- haridvoli subjes'is-i.t.ho;.-tlirittili4ll,l,idlli-•e%". pgoable, his Parliament ,tly di t ty' litioid rifiri'6 it l''.'tt . with ,snch to charge. , Vitnat: Wai !fhiy .ifot•'lliA . ';',.. , llll',..'6' t t lie clause -ire propaisectAvould:l4lf-i+e tit, tt,ty,i;F.;-'' -n4y,l mit. „whilitici...talte troth ' the 11..-;;,-rt. r ' 11 . V CUil Iron' , : over ~:every 'Officer :'of' the 11,11 tel.O!.1: ' with ..the exception of- t w o. Ii would be s.6e 1t recommendation .of the p:a •n, it ''.. tha power I A ~, posed to be, taken from the-Peet6rrt. were t:t 'O O . !given to the,Queet4 as that vestry rift, her N'..tjit* , would substantially be g i ve n. to'the Regent, .;tild ii..!, t' by him in t r ust for thedigoity and..comfOrr Of I't,. Kingl . B ill IV lien a ,kroyisioo _wait ~ ,..inticte, , I h;ti- i t,tti Gineen shotifcl not, have the power, of ledieving"auy. • one of the I household, pot a page iiiithe house, not al :groom in the stable, could be regardvd.as. being nn der her controul. lie was actuatedtby.poriperSonatit ~ holtility, to tltoso who,formed the tpresentlAdmitti— ;stratiop, or to thosein whom the clvaistywai to 1,1411 'vested ; , to ,stime of .Whombe-was•tillied-bY irtentl.4 .ship 'add by . blood, but to no subjeets. cotild ti'et be content that such ,power. should be , trusted: ' If it"eddltiabe . tires'irtied to the King, let it be preserved-' , ' to him.. If not, let it be given to theJtegent, or to the Queen, 'bat lel it nth be tranaferredt to a sa', , - 'jz'd. ..lf the Bill passedas it watir,..theTrvisray, ‘t olif:1 have no oon , qoul pvq,tlie expenditure. , It tv,f4 41:1,1 mit the paznetAs w e re made on estimates pre-ett.. , , ed, and . that, the Treastiry,had.the.right - of'in.tkiti rm reirks on those esttmat,es.... It war, ertid inch' w ~..,' usually the case, and lie bad othiciallytand treque:-, )y made such remarks; but then they were imiti t 1 , - the present:tot:a gruscious,tnaster, who could decid..... I .hetween his stnivatits. , When, however, two o.lte.4t's',' were equal hi .power, no ditierence•could ,bit adjast • ed .. wittiout the interposition of superior au -Ito. - 'city. It the expenditure, should exceed the or. :' dinary estimate in o . tenfold degree; - Slat, lie (un- 4 tended, the provisions of the till rendered it tin vossit)le for the Treasury to refuse to lYty. `l'le e clause which he objected to did .away all t h e ..,... corny which Parliament had 'been labouriug thtr,y gars to oblain i and it, the Chamberlain, th.• 1-ord Steward, and the Master of theTiorsu thought fit, 'they might not only withhold the money, nee,ssary• for the public business, .for the use of Foreign this- baSsathors„ 6... c. but they might withhoht eve - , ii.,, monies necessary fur the maintenance of the Rut , I .4 Faintly , welt Wag the situation in wilich i lle lt , ivtit •Farnily would be placed by th e p ass i ng of the clan.,., -0 'and such was the clause its passed by file' House ~f Commons. ,Ue did not intend that ttte matter sttooti .rest lit re. He would mote de„ nova iii otawi e nt ' , 17 Bg,, and-he should then See Who would dorc lu . Oppthe. i t. The Flonse divided on 'the Amendment of Loid LI VailpooL; Wheci . the notnhef4 ' . . were--- Culirvltv . • • • • 86 N 1,41 Con . telits • • • • • M • . 3 •ijOrit) tiqpiu pi Lord Liverpool As Motion ----3 etaslt tirlderstotici Proties 4:lac not called 'or on thii occasion. - We understand that a motion .was then made by. Lord CLANCAItrk, for ularince