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gtumbel -was -stillgrester, being 1015, and in 1819 it was 1111. 'lto Learned Gentleman referred to 1814. He (the Attorney kittneral) did not wish to avoid that year, but he had not the . letarns at hand. In that year he believed the motions were mere numerous, and that a number of bankrupt petitions con sie.trably greater had been disposed of. What he had stated to i:st prove that the Lord Chancellor had not withdrawn-him self f:qm the business of Chancery on the appointment of a Vier-Chancellor. Ile was much surprised to hear it said that the appointment of a Vice-Chancellor had not tended to the Eyetter dispatch of business. The number of appeals dispo s e d of in. he House of Lords in the ten years before the appoint .m:at of a Vice-Chancellor was 193. In the ten years subse. --queet to his appointment (the 10 years were not vet completed) tie number disposed of was 451. The Learned Gentleman re f:.--rred to the few appeals disposed of in 1820. It was to he reinerrOered how important were the subjects brought forward in teat year. The Queensbury, Buccleugh, and Roxburgh tt were then tinder consideration; and also the Strath. ~, reerage. The appeals from Scotland took up much :, •-- and he ligreed with the Honourable Gen t le man, that Ii - :e , e.: continued, such as they had been of late, some ee'::alar measure with respect to them might he necessary. NG eti respect to Lunatic Petitions, there was no' arrear. In ee- Cauees there was no arrear ; and in the Bankrupt Peti te et there was no arrear. It was only with respect to th e _--eeeels that any arrear was to be complained of. The ques tlee now before the House was this :—Had such a case - nie:n made out as called for interferenCe on their part ? He theaght no sticli case had been made. ut. Last year,' the Learned Gentleman had submitted a plan to the House dif -ferent from that which he now offered, and he expected future years would produce new plans from the same quarter. Ile thea4it he would do better to bring it - forward ia a regular 'teem at once, than to go on thus from year to year varying in 1 •ht.i taggestions. Last year the Learned Gentlemen proposed that the Lord Chancellor should not sit in Chancery at all, ex acyt on very special occasions. This plan not having met with the approbation of the House, he now wished to get rid of the Vice-Chancellor, whose assistance had greatly diminished the •,..r: ..z• of busheess. - The House had before tliem the business whieh had been disposed of by the Lord Chancellor. He knew ttie.t complaints had been raised against that Noble and Learn a el:ad, on account of delay. It was not for him to apologise ler the conduct of the Lord Chancellor, but it was well known te eve' one who practised in that Court, that the delay grew - ..it. of 'anxiet ; to avoid doing injustice in his decisions, and Le concurred - with the Noble Earl, in thinking that an incorrect altteiaion would be productive of more inconvenience than re snieed'even from delay: Upon the whole, as he was of opinion -alit no case had been made out for interfering with the Court ...r Chancery, he for one should give his opposition to the mo -,tien of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. , Mr. WILLIAMS said nothing could be more certain than. - tbat no disresuect had been intended towards the Lord Chan „ctlior in bringing this subject forward. He should not add to the authorizedyanegyrics which had been pronounced on that very learned personage : ' first, because it was . unnecessary . ; „And, secondly, because when he had most frequent opportuni ties,of Witnessing the exertions of his talents, he had the pain to -lee him in that most ambiguous situation, in which he united the irreconcileable characters of'prosecutor and judge. Ile pro .tteeded to compare the procedings in the Court of Chancery and in the Vice-Chancellor's Court. In the latter, of late years, the Unkrupt petitions disposed of were about two to one, as corn fit.i6l with the number decided upon in the other Court, while tl4 causes decided by the Vice-Chancellor were in the propor •ton of ten to one. The establishment of the Vice-Chancellor's .Court had introduced an injurious practice, which had not be fore been known in the appeals on motions. The result of .his was, that there were .107 appeals at this moment. He should most decidedly vote for the mution of his Honourable i Fiend. .... Ar e . H. TWISS rose at the same time with Mr. WETIIE_ iEtt, and, proceeded, notwithstanding a general call for Alr Wetherell: He was sorry to take precedence of his Hon. and Learned Friend, but it would give his Hon. and Learned riend the advantage of addressing the House when it would _ less become him (Mr. Twiss) to do so. He would meet the , charges on the other side , as manfully as the hardihood of their .00urage could demtuid.: , Of 86 causes, the Lord Chancellor had left the distressingi ,disheartening arrear, of two. There was indeed one unfortunate, irremediable evil—that was the pre-eminent, unrivalled character of the Lord Chancellor,which encouraged and invited appeals to him. But he wished such an -evil long to continue. Mr. 5L A. TAYLOR replied. What he had stated re- Mained unanswered, and .he would, year after year, take. the 4 3 . . :li . . of the House upon the subject, if he should divide -.eat two. For the Motion - .Against it - - Majority against it - PENSION BILL. - -U% Mr. CREEVEY rose to submit hig motion to the House haVon the subject of the Bill of 1817, for granting Pensions to Ute Officers, which was brought in by the lion. Member for Corfe Castle. After referring to something which,had fallen 'from the Noble Marquis opposite relative to this subject upon .aivaner occasion, he-stated that he was so satisfied of the un parliamentary nature and the iniquity of the Bill; that he - ohOuld certainly divide the House upon it on the present occasion. , He agreed with the Noble Lord, that he was not ',likely to carry his motion, but he felt that his allies were the annLic opinion, and the publicity of their debates, and he should iberefore• let the- country see what the true character of etlns Bill was. • With this view he should not now move its :ieal, but place upon the Journals a set of resolutions, cjiring his sentiments upon the whole business. The first reso ioe on that it appeared to the House, that by an Act of - tile fifty-seventh year of his late Majesty, a sum of forty-twoH thothiand pounds per annum was charged in perpetuity upon •the Consolidated Fund, for the payment of pensions to parti aa-derperwons holding particular offices in the State. The reso- lotion went on to describe the Ministers and Officers entitled IA; the.se Pensions by the Act of Parliament, after a service I of- tint) years. Our Chief-JuStices were not entitled to Pen sion; until they had served fifteen years. But these, which were made by the persons for themselves, were to become dhe after g-service of two years.. The second and third .re , snititlo4 were declaratory of the right of the Crown to re ward meritorious Officers, and the infringement of that right • by the introduction of the ahove Bill, upon the recomtnentia ton of a Select Committee, composed of the pta'sons them -selves. This Select Committee was appointed in 1817,—a time Of great public distress, to examine into the state of the Fi :Tunics with a view to relieve the people of some of their btu-- theca. Its first Report created these new Pensioners, and left_the Crown nothing' but its ,Veto in the last resort, instead of its right to grant such Pensions. Upon a late occasion, - wnen a motion-was :made upon the subject of our Anibassa lop:. at Fotrelgn Courts, the Noble Marquis refused a Commit than and said he would never set his foot into one, because it w euid disvigour the Monarchy. Because it would disvigour the Monarchy. - -(A laugh.)—Disvigoured the Monarchy it was ; a terth he certainly never should have made use of him he*would tell the Noble Lord'that this ..h.et had not only disvigoured the Monarchy, but disgraced Houee ,bud • defranded the public. The next resolution ose,nt to affirm that there' was no precedent for such a measure. loe-aff2, when the Xing sent ahnessage to the House to make arzangement for his income, and gave up his existing rights, thete was nothing .said. of any pensions for his Ministers.— ' The debt too was then 200,000,0001., and now it was become W 0,00,0001. the Miniaters and the Hon. Member for Corte :Castle 'cal - he down too--make this list of pensions for them solves. -lie did not rnean to move the repeal of this Act at rr,r; - -vent, but theeeresolutiOns pledged the House to take the tier into its consideration - early in the next Session. ; The resOliition -.declared this to be a Compact between the l'aleolainers and the public, by which the latter had to pay tivisti•this money without any compensation. The Honourable - ...Ketr.ber• for Corfe Castle' had told him, that he voted for a unilar 11111 to this in the year 1812., He found this to be true, • tit:; he had the more reason to be ashamed of it, now he found estorl a monstrous abuse of the principle. The relief afforded by this measure only, extended to the abolition of two offices in -.lnrigiand, whose salaries amounted to 3401. in Scotland and ,irale.nd there were other offices which had fallen in, and the .4ntire savingrwas 4,6021. 10s. Upon the 3401. saved in England fs rut Sidrneutli had received a penlion of 3, , 900.f. The -sixth r-selutirin went to , record these facts. His object was tia place this upon the journals, in order to let the people see the nature their contract with the pensioners. The seventh resolution war, declaratory. of the. opinion of the House, that if the • oiLees hefere alluded to had become vacant without the .ryiltence fir the Bill, and the Crown could have had the ap poinsnienis, it-would not have given the pension of 39001. to itosl Viscount Sidroonth. It appeared that in 1802 Lord Sid raorith waiin office, and then he made his son Clerk of the 4 . `ells -with a salary of 30001. Not contented with this, the 2.4 We -Lord for some supposed loss, 9khiCh he might hereafter ,sustain, 'was to receive another pension of 80001. There cer tainly never sass a snore roinantie-sitbation thah that in which Ih-er:leSidniouth stood. He dittnot rileati•to go out of his way As - , Stay any thilig disrespectfukof Lord Sidniouth, hut he appre heridisel that he would not rif a tnore important part in history hi; en some ofiris predetrosoors in office. For instance, lie would ay Lord Chatlitin ; -and that Noble Lord had but one pension tram the King. fieolid not see,rtherefore, why Lord Sidmouth teas to have two: Vic last resolution stated tae opinion of the House, ' , that din 'interference of a Committee of that House =pith the &anti* of pensions was an interfereoce with, the just yearssorative , .af .l llle Crown, , an abuse of the power entrusted to -.then:l)y the , Ontaltution, and a heavy grievance-to the people. -1• U -Proold e aftian an that his object was- to put these facts lv..Care the Si 000fka object ter that Bill would. be te mined from thz Statute Book. lie concluded by moving the first Resolution. , The Resolution being put from the Chair, Mr. BA NKES said, - he was not sorry the Hon. Member had brought the subject hefoie the House, because - it would give him an oppOrtunity of explaining the views of the Committee which recommended the Bill. The principle of the Bill was to abolish every s office without duty. The lion. Gentleman said, the principle was noir:One which ought to be supported; and,that it was a departure from the principle of Air. Burke's Bill. That great man held that it would not be injurious to the Con stitution, if the Government .were allowed to, tempt great ta lents into the public service, by the means of giving certain of fices as a remuneration. The Committee of which he was Chair man, whet' they considered the measure then before the House, were willing to adopt the principle which allowed sinecures to be given for public services, but they found it had been abuSed, and they could not concur with Mr. Burke in his view of the subject. They resolved to abolish sinecures, and they, recom mended the Sovereign to reward services with pensions rather than offices. It was impossible he could support the motion. If the Bill were repealed matters would return to what .they were before. On the repeal of the Bill sinecures must revive. The offices retained in Mr. Burke's Bill had been abolished; but with respect to offices held for life, that was a species of property which could not he set at nought. Much bad been said with respect to a pension granted his Noble Friend, but he would appeal to the House whether the conduct of his Noble Friend, • while he filled the Chair of that House, was not admired. lle was convinced no man ever received more respect and gratitude for public services. It was but reasonable to re-, ward the Noble Lord for a long and laborious public life.— (Hear !)-11 e could not consent to repeal the Bill, and thereby deprive the Crown of the - prerogative of remunerating public men. The best prerogative of the Crown was that which made them authors of the benefits conferred on meritorious Public ' Servants. If ever they took that prerogative out of the hands of the Crown it would not only be unconstitutional, but occa sion a burden more onerous than the pensions. The Hon. Mem ber concluded by moving, as an amendment, that the !louse proceed to the other Orders of the Day. •Mr. 'H. G. BENNET supported the motion, and objected to the Bill, on the ground that it had not answered the expecta tion of the public. Instead of being the means of abolishing sinecures, it had enabled Ministers to reward their political adherents. With respect to the Noble Lord who had been Se cretary for the Home Department, he was no more fit to be Minister of the country than one of the doorkeepers. The lion. Member who brought in the Bill had been a great reformer in small things, because little saving had been the result of his labours. •.• Mr. BANKES, in explanation e said, there was a paper on the table, which pointed out a saving produced to the public by himself and others, which exceeded, any reform made by the Hon. Gentleman and all his friends. It at the time proved the falsehood of his assertion. The Committee in winch he once sat had been the means of saving to the country more than 200,0001. • • , . Mr. BENNET said, in reply, he paid back the full oomph meat paid by the Hon. llenther in the term falsehood. • The Marquis of LONDONDERRY could not avoid re pelling with indignatiOn some of the statements. hi hadsheard from the Honourable •Gentlensan who introduced the Motion and' the Honourable Member for Shrewsbury. He had -navel. listened in an assembly of Englishmen to sentiments sa,revolts ing to the general feeling of the - .House. The lionearralale Member said he could-only find disgust and_corruption in the . operation of the Bill. -Mr. Burke had-•recomtwided S•eten , tion of offices as the means of • rewarding Merit,. but it seemed : those offices had been abuSed- in 'the oPplication; and the Bill which the House wag called .upon to repeal .Was inerodticed.— The Hon. Member had represented the Bill as accomplishing all the work of corruption, and then had lavished all the male- • volence of his mind against his Noble Friend the late Secretary of State. The Noble' Marquis was not surprised the lion. Member never would forgive his Noble Friend for his conscien tious service to the country: During the most difficult period of our history that. Noble Lord protected the country and sur mounted the danger. He knew his Noble Friend never could be forgiven by the Hod. Gentleman, because he 'made them feel what' he hand of Government was able to do. His Noble Friend had been mentioned in the most disgusting manner, and treated worse than a door-keeper of : the, House. The Hon. Member must have known his Noble Friend did not leave the Chair from any wish of . his own. Ile• was induced to take a part in the Government from a sense of public duty. Ifis Noble Friend had been compared with Pitt and Fox, . but it was no disparagement not to rise to the talents of those great Statesmen ; .but his Noble Friend had given splendid proof of his great ability. The question 'of - the Peace of Amiens,— and the subsequent triumph of the country, might be attributed to the wise measures of his Noble Friend. The very year af ter the Peace of Amiens he provided 12400,0001.• for the pub lic service. The excellent administration of his Noble Friend greatly contributed to raise the triumph of the country. The Hon. Gentleman had endeavoured to wound his Noble Friend in a quarter which all who knew him would say was impreg nable. No personalinterest had ever interfered with his Noble Friend's duty. When he left the Chair of that House, which he filled twelve or thirteen years, nothing could induce bins to look at his • private interest. His , Majesty was recommeaded to grant hint a provision commensurate to-.his services, but his Noble Friend peremptorily insisted that no provision what ever should be made for him while he was engaged in the ha zardous affairs of the country. • The Kin g; had issued his corn. mends for a Message to b e brought, downl to that House to reward the services of his Noble Friend as Speaker of the House ; but his Noble Friend had desired that it might not be done. The Honourable Member (Mr. Creevey), for pur poses best known to himself, had referred •to a paper on the table which recalled the afflicting domestic circumstances in • the family • of his Noble Friend, although, in his (the Mar, quis's) opinion there was not the slightest necessity for such a recurrence with any view to the Hon. Member's argument. His Noble Friend had filled the offices of Speaker, Prime Minister, and Secretary of State, the• latter in a period of ten of the • most critical years in the history of the country. And this was the individual who was to be grudged the reward of his long services; and in respect of wheat a charge was to be brought against the Crown for doing that which it had been empowered to do by 'Parliament.—(l - lear, hear, hear !)—He really felt that lie was abusing the patience of the House in en larging upon such a subject ; but he could not with satisfaction to his feelings as a Gentleman, refrain from thus noticing the speech of the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury ; a speech he be lieved to be tile most disgusting and disgraceful ever uttered within the walls of an English Paeliament.—(Cheers from the Treasury benches.) Mr. 13ROUGHA M said, he rose to priotest against the tone of the Noble Marquis.—(llear, hear, from the Opposition.)— To protest against his or any Minister of the Crown daring to use the language he had just uttered.—Loud cheers from the Opposition, accompanied by cries of " chair," from : several parts of the House. Here some confusion took place, but at length] • The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose to order. When, lie Said, an lion. Member thought proper to apply the word " dare" to his (the Marquis's) language, he was bound to Sup pose that the Hon.. Member must mean that he had gone be yond the limits of Parliamentary debate. On this supposition he- submitted that it was the duty of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman to take exception to his language the mo ment it was uttered, and to move that his words should be taken down. lie begged to apply for the decision of the Chair on the point. The SPEAKER said, if the word "dare" had been used in the sense attributed to it• by the Noble Marquis, it undoubt edly was highly disorderly. Ile had, however, frequently heard the expression used in Parliamentary debate, and not objected to. Ile a4sured the House that he had always considered its dignity to be best consulted by forbearing to notice every ex pression which might escape in the heat of debate not strictly within the rule. This had influenced his own conduct, when he refrained from particularly remarking the warm expresaiong, which passed between the lion. Member for Corfe Castle (Mr. Bankes) and the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury (Mr. Bennet.) Mr. BROUGHAM resumed.—He .was quite satisfied that everybody-who heard him, and was not, like the Noble Mar , quis, carried away by the heat of the debate, must have under : stood him in the way that it appeared he was understood by the Chair. - He had heard the expression• in question applied, Ire thought, hundreds of times. He had often applied it him self, and it had never before been taken up. Ile repeated his protest against any Minister of the Crown' presuming (for he would say presuming, us it seemed he was to be driven from the phrase) to speak as he had done of one of the Representatives of the people ih that House. Such lan, guage as that of the Noble Marquis no Minister had ever ventured, chosen, or pleased (for the critical ear of the' Noble Marquis might take whichever of the verbs it thought good) to utter in that House. Disgusting !—(Cheers from the Treasury Benchea.)—Disgraceful !—(Loud cheers from the Treasury Benches).—lle perfectly well understood those cheers. There might be those.in the House whO thought the speech of ► his Honourable, Friend disgusring and 'disgraceful; but he (Mr. B.) was not one of them. It was however , one thing to think so, and another thing to say so ; and 'that too he re peated in the language of the Noble Marquis. lie had to apo logize for his own warmth ; but he could not resist it when he heard such epithets opposed to the manly sentiments of his Hon. Friend, whose honest heart and - ..cern inflexibility of prin ciples he had so long known and admired. With respect to the question before the House, he had but a word or two to offer. Of Lord Sidniouth he should not speak harshly, because • he 1 was ; nor should he make comparisons, because he al ways understood that they were odious. • Ile must say how -1 ever that nothing could be More absurd or ludicrous than the -appointment osloved Sidraouth . to be Minister at the time when he was actually appointed. True be . made . the Peace of Amiens ; but he soon broke it, and occasioned miseries which were now felt, and, would be felt when they were all forgotten. But the Noble Marquis had avoided the place where the shoe pinched; for the complaint was,Thot the Pension to Lord 'Sidmouth, but the fact that Pension anti Office were retained together. He denied that his Ilon. Friend bad alluded to Lord Sidmouth's Son, for the purpose of hurting the feelings of the father. His Hon. Friend was incapable of it. He (Mr. B.) should support the motion. The'Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that his being a Minister of the Crown did - not precincte him delivering his opi nian'as'a Member of that'House. - He had applied the terms " disgusting" and 44 . disgraceful" (in a Parliamentary sense) to the way in which the Hon. Member for Shrewsbury had spoken of his Noble. Friend, in comparing him to the door keepers of the HouSe. Upon reflection, he was not disposed to think that he had at all misapplied the terms Mr. C. BATE I URST said, that Lord Sidmouth had offered the place of Clerk of the Polls to several distinguished indivi duals before he offered it to his son. Mr. CREEVEY shortly replied, The House then divided, when there appeared— For the Amendment , - 143 For the Original lotion - - 42 Majority - - - .-101 The House then proceeded to the other Orders of the Day, in course of w hich .3Ir..CRE EVE r moved his Resolutions be :ween each Order, but they were negatived without a division. adjourned at HALF-PAST Two this morning. MAJORITY AND MINORITY ON MR. ABERCROMBIE'S MOTION FOR A COMMITTEE TO INQUIRE INTO TILE CONDUCT OF THE LORD ADVOCATE OF SCOTLAND.-JUNE '25. MAJORITY Arbuthnot,Rt Hon. Drummond, J. ' Palmerston Lord C. ' ' , Don, Sir A. Peel, Rt. lion. R. Alexander, J. Egerton, W. Phillimore 1)r. Attwood, 'All. ; : Fremantle, W. Phipps, H on.i E. Berestord, Lord 0. Forbes, C. Plurtett, Rt. Hon. Binning, Lord Forrester, F. . W. Bathurst, IIn.T. S. Goulburn,lttllnll. Paget; Hon. B. Brogden, J. Graves, Lord Plumber, John' Burgh, Sir U. Gitibrd, Sir It. Pringle, Sir W. Blair, J. H. Grant, A. C. Pearse, John Bastard, Edw. P. Gilbert, D. G. Penruddock, J. H. Bastard, J. II uskisson, Rt. II on. Robinson ,Rt lin. F. Bankes, H. W. Rice Hon. G. , Bankes, t.. • Hope, Sir W. J. Rogers, Ed. Belfast, Earl of HoWord, (I. P. : Somerset, Lord G. Brudenell, Lord Hill, ,Sir.4o. '• Smith, C. Bruce, R. Holmes, W. Sketfington,Rt.lin. Browne, Peter liOdsworti), 17. • ' J. Cockburn, Sit 0: • ' liothath, tofd . . . SAlttion, Lord , '•• Calvert; je'' - - • ' llardinge, Sir H. Stewart, Alex. Copley, Sir J. S. Heber, Richard • , - Simeyd, N. Canning, ltt.lln.O. ' Knox, Hon. T. • Townshend, Ifti.'lL: Clerk, Sir G. . Kerr, 1). • Twiss, Horace Congreve, Sir W: Lowther, Lord Taylor, G. W. Courtenay, T. P. Lovaine, Lord ' Thompon, W. Croker, J. W. Long, Itt..lln.Sir C. Ure, M. Campbell, Arch. Londonderry, Mar- Villiers, Rt. Iln. J. Cranborne, Visct. guess of Vansit tart, Rt Eln.N Cust, Hon. E. Lindsay, Hon. H. Wallace, Rt. Hn. T. Cust, Hon. P. Lewis, T. F. . Wilmot, It. .. Claughton, Thos. Lowther, J. Warren, C. Cartwright, R. W. LucY„ G. Ward, It. Clive, Hen. . . Martin, Sir T. B. Warrender, Sir G. Curteis, E. J. • Macnaghten, E. A. Wellesley, R. CoOper, R. B. Manneri, Lord C. Wynn, C. W. Chandos, :Mary. of ' Manners, Lord R. Wood, Col. ' Drummond, 11. 11. Martin, R. Wodehouse, Iln. J. Douglas, W. K. Musgrave, Sir P. Wodehouse, E. Dundas, Rt.lfn. W. Nolan, M. Wynn, Sir %V. W. Douglas, J. Nightingale, Sir M. Wilson, Thomas Divett, T. Ommanney, Sir F. Wilson, W. W. C. 1 Daly, J. Osborne, Sir J. Wemyss, J. • MINORITY Allen, J. If. Griffith, J. W. Palmer, C. E. Althorp, Visct. Glenorchy, hoed Powlett, Hon. - X. Baring, A. Guise, Sir W. Price, it. Baring, H. Gurney, R. H. Prittie, Hon. F. A. Barnard, Viscount Gaskell, Ben. Robinson, Sir Geo. Bennet, lion. 11. G. • Hamilton, Lord A. Ric; T. S. Bernal, R. .. liobhouse,- J. C. Ricardo, David Brougham, H. , Iloneywood, W. P. Rowley, Sir W. Butterworth, J. Hume, J. It oharts, George Benett, John ' - Hutchinson, lion. Itobarts, A. - Bentinck, Lord W. C. H. , Rumbold, C. E. Buxton, T. T. F. James, W. Russell, Lord J. Calcraft , J. Jervoise, G. P. Scarlett, J. Calcraft, J. 11. Kennedy, T. F. Sefton, Earl of Culvert, C. ' •' • Lamb, lion. G.. • Smith, J. Cavendish, C. i.: - Lambton, J. G. Smith, Wrn. Cavendish, li. . Lemon, Sir W. Smith, S. Coke, T. W. - Lloyd, Sir Ed. Smith, G. ' Colbutne, N. R. Lennart', T. B. Stuart, Lord,J. Crompton, S. Lushington, S Tavistock, Alarq. Creevey, T. Leycester, Ralph Taylor, M. A. Calthorpe, lion. F. - Lockhart, J. 1. Tierney,, lit. lin.G. Davies, T. H. ill aberly, J. Titchfield, Ni arq. of Denman, Thos. - MaCdOnald, Jas. Tulk, C. A. Dundas, Hon. T. Mackintosh, SirK . Western, U. C. Dunconnon,' Visct. Martin, John • It'hithread, S. C. Denison, W. .I. Maxwell, John Williams, J. Ebrington, Visct. Milbank, M. W illiams, W. Ellis, Hon. G. A. Monck, J. B. Wilson, Sir R. Fergusson, SirR.C. Mostyn, Sir 'rhos. Wood, Aid.. Fitzgerald,Lord W. Newport, Rt. Hon. Fitzroy,. Lord C. Sir John , TELLERS. Folkestone, Vise. Nugent, Lord A bercromby, II n.J, Grattan, J. Normanby, Visct. Grant, J. P. I Grenfell, Pascoe Phillips, G. jun. - - DISTRESS IN IRELAND. The following interesting- and affecti►►g commit nications have been received : LETTER FROM THE REV. C. SEYMOUR TO JOHN DAVID LATOUCHE, ESQ. . Cliufruzan of the Dublin Committee. " DEAR had the honour of receiving this day your kind letter and benefaction. It is ,a consolation to our poor starving neighbours, t.o expotiedice, as they • have done, sym pathy - and liberality from ever:) , quarter, and to• be comforted under their affliclions on every side ; but it.will not do. The famine is too sore in the land to be easily removed, and the, effect of it on the poor sufferers so great and widely extended, that I think in a few days it cannot be cured. - This morning a poor fellow, who worked tinder my inspection last meek, went to sleep after his work on Saturday evening,' not on his bed, for bed he had none, nor under his bed=clotheS, but in his daily rags; heat up this morning, in order to earn by a light' labour I had appointed for him, his three quarts of oaten meal. He was weak, for I fear he faSted yesterday (Sunday.) He complained of being languid and 'sleepy ; he said he would lie down again for a few minutes ; he lay down on the ground, and died. Four died in the Island of Boffin, in a similar man. nor ; and thousands are to all appearance tottering, for 'want of 'food and employment, on the borders of the grave. "Those - who may escape the famine of this year will, in all probability, be- cut off in the next. The poor of this Barony at least, will have great difficulties and sufKrings to encounter. They are so weak for want of food, that they do not re-mould their potatoes, and they are not able to cut their turf. Next winter, without .fuel—and next summer, without food, will send the poor people of Cunamana to a place where there shall.he no sufferings, no privations, and no wants. T think it is almost too late now to think of plans of general employ ment for the poor of this country ; they are almost beyond recovery ; and yet they are patient and meek. They . vent not themselves in laud complaints; 'they commit not acts of vio lenee or' outrage, even under the pangs of hunger, and tortured with the pains of sickness, brought on by inanition and un wholesome food. , It .is very common to hear poor Paddy of Cunamana say, with a smile. In truth, please your Honour, it is all over; I am just off.' Indeed, I aril convinced it is almost over; the miseries of Cunamana will soon be forgotten in the peaceful grave. . _ " I have the honour to be, dear Sir, with respect, your most obliged,' " C. SEYMOUR, " Resident Clergyman of Cunamana. " To JOHN DAVID LATOUCIIE, 1,5<1." EXTRACT OF A REPORT AT A MEETING OF THE BARONY OF IBRECIIIN, COUNTY OF CLARE. " That the wretched, yet peaceable inhabitants of this barony are in a state of the most absolute pennyless poverty ; in proof of which many individuals who were supposed to have means to buy meal having been put on the list of purchasers at the reduced price, were unable to accomplish it, and having like living spectres wandered through the country for . a few days in search of food, at .length fell exhausted, and in this state Were attended by their Clergy, preparatory to death, the at tending Clergy testifying by their signatures hereto the full verification of the fact.---Sig - ned by the Chairman, " J. MORON V. 4.‘ J. LUCAS, Curate of Kilfarboy. " PATRICK INI`CAJAINL, R. C. Curate a do." BATHING IN THE THAMES. FOR THE SUN. NIL EDIT on,—lt has been my intention for some time past to call your notice to the indecent scenes which are exhi bited along the Banks of the Thames, from Chelsea down to Milbank, every Sunday. I allude to the crowds of persons who are suffered to bathe there throughout the 'day. At this season of the year, there is not a more agreeable walk near the metropolis than on the spot which I have mentioned ; but, whilst this nuisance exists, it is impossible for any persons, with the least feelings 9f delicacy and propriety, especially in company with females, to enjoy it. Surely these people might be prevented bathing after eight or nine o'clock. Bathing on the rise-of the morning is much more conducive to health than in the heat of the day, when it is enervating and dangerous. However, if people prefer the latter period, they ought not to be suffered to infest the most public places on the River, but be compelled to seek places more retired, and where their enjoy ments will not interfere with the enjoyment and recreation of others. I hope, therefore, Mr. Editor, you will take some op portunity of noticing the subject, in order that it may attract the attention of the police, whose inactivity and remissness in this instance, as well as jn very many others, is highly discre ditable to the first metropolis in the world, inasmuch as the police of fio town oil the Continent, or indeed in England, is half so badly conducted. • Yours, MERCATOR Red House, Battersea, June 26, 182. CITY, 'WEDNESDAY EVENING. The news received .yesterday from Constantinople have created a great sensation in the City amongst all of its inhabi tants, for the sacrifice of innocent men at the shrine of the Continental system is both odious and - abhorrent to the feelings of -all good men. The Greeks in London are this day clothed in-black' for murdered fathers and brothers, and the execu tioners are, the protected friends • of the holy Alliance. Rua sia has twice induced the descendants of the civilizers of the world to attempt their emancipation, and twice have these Unfortunate Christians suffered every human calamity from the .perfidy Of their supposed protectors. The future his torian must .:deeply implicate England in these scenes.— By her interference the pride and cruelty of the Porte have been equally exalted, and through a little jealousy of the rising power of Russia, she has permitted the most enorm ous crimes to be perpetrated. To restrain the power of Russia, Turkey and all its barbarities must be maintained; to main tain. the. present system in. Eng' s end and in • Europe, liberty 'must be sacrificed, and every feeling which can ennoble hu man nature must be extinguished. Such policy, however, a short time will 'shew, is as unavailing as it is base and cowardly. hatters of the latest dates, and of the best authority, from Constantinople, state, that neither Moldavia nor Wallachia will be evacuated. The same letters also assert, that the. Sultan has ordered all British vessels passing Constantinople to be searched on their voyage from Odessa, and that the remonstrances of the British Ambassador against this stretch of tyrannical power have been equally effeetive with his efforts in favour of the Sciot hostages (some of whom were from seventy-five to eighty years of age). The accounts front Odessa, published a few days ago in the The Morning Chronicle, dated the 21st May, are in complete accordance with those from Constantinople, dated the 2lith May, respecting the non-eva cuation of the Provinces. The account from Odessa was writ ten by a gentleman of high character, and possessed of the best knformation ' • and, added to the well-known deceit always prac tised by the Faithful when their country and religion arc me naced by Christians, it ought nearly to set.the question at rest respecting the maintenance of the present state of affairs in the East. One account states, that the Provinces are not evacua ted because the Turkish army is in want of provisions. In all former cases, the want of provisions has been considered as a sufficient cause for an army retiring from a particular district ; and it required the sagacity of a fund speculator to establish that hunger was a fitting excuse for an army to. remain sta tionary. Another letter states, that the British Ambassador had, by private emissaries, learned, that the Asiatic troops had actually retired, and that the remainder of the Turkish army • intended also soon to withdraw. This letter, however, does not add that the retreat of the Asiatics was stopped at Constantinople, ' and that orders had been forwarded for the provinces to be main tained. That such was the opinion at Constantinople on May 26 the best authorities assert, and the next aclvices from Odessa will probably prove its truth. Consols for the July account opened this morning at 8I Z. The Great Man was observed on the Royal Exchange before ten o'clock. Very large sales were ef fected by a particular interest, at 81i g, who are generally Bulls, and a good deal of alarm was the consequence. No French Mail being due on Wednesday, it has generally been a day for private expresses, and as the arrival of none has this day been made public, some have presumed that the party has been selling on secret information. At 4 o'clock the cloSing price was 818, but shortly afterwards any quantity could have been obtained at 811 A. Very little business has been done in the Foreign Funds. The French Rentes are nominally quoted at 91. 50 ; l'russian Fives remain at 37; Columbian Old Bonds 102, and Sixes 83A ; Swiss 1341 ; Spanish Old Bonds are 6214, and the New 62 ; Danish 87-i ; Neapolitan 73 ; Russian Fives Metallic-77i ; and Mr. Rothschild's New Loan 831 ; Austrian Fives 78 . 1; and Chili 80k. At the - East India sale of Sugars the different lots were this day principally bought in, and what was sold went at it reduction of fully 24. a cwt. There was also a sale of Havitrina. ViThites were bought in at 35 to 36; and Yellow sold at 245. 6d. being also fully 2s. cheaper. There is a brisk demand for Coffee, which within this week has advanced 3s. a cwt.; it is entirely for home consumption. Rums-are unsaleable, and so are Brandies, but the supplies of the latter article are likely to fall off, because letters have been received from Barcelona, dated the 12th instant, which state that the vines were in a deplorable state for want of rain, which threatened destruction to the fruit crops ; that the farmers would not sell, and that th- demand and the value were consequently daily increasing. On account of the weak and inconsistent conduct of the Fin ance Minister respecting the reduction of the heather Duty, this branch of the British commerce is completely paralysed. It seems that it depends entirely on the vote ofthe House of Com mons respecting the Salt Tax, -whether any reduction will be made in the Leather Duties, and in consequence not a sale can be effected until this point be settled. There,is little in common betwixt Salt and Leather; yet Mr. Vansittart must have 201,0001. from one of these articleS, notwithstanding the boast ed increase of the revenue of which the Right _Honourable Cal culator's description is understood to have been postponed nil til Monday next. . A continuation of dry weather enhances the v slue of Spring grain. Oats are this day ls. and 2s. A quarter dearer, -and some factors are inclined to hold for a further advance. There is so little bar ley on sale, and the consuniistion is so trifling, that no great improvement can be quoted in its value. Malt is, however, Bs. to 10s. oearer within the last fourteen days. Wheat is ex ceedingly dull sale, and to dispose of any quantity, a reduction must be-submitted to. 'Rain coatinues to be much wanted, and considerable mischief must be the result'of the dry weather con tinuing much longer.( Morning' C7troniele. ) • r. k VV E, • \ l'bo ' * - , i -. .. ..* ~,,,,,,-_-,...., --- )Ve fr i e it i c, --- ',NI tk . ': • e i-, ',\ MASONIC No FOR NEXT WEEN• ENG LAND. • on 110, Monday, July 1, LONDON. Nos. 5, ‘Yi d 39, ' l ' l ' Bo • Quat. en. ect. ys School at 7. o i COUNTRY. Nos. 20 ; 64, 7 2, ''' 4 0 3. • • • :5 4 21 5( 2 4 : 17 1 1 :: , 5 4: 1 1 3 2 5 : 1 13 5 1 1 4 rt; 23 :31 2 :,: 2 5 4 6 3 3..„ ; 11 .: 8 : :: 5 4 54 64:1 1 9 65 ,. : 644, 680, 710 4, 316. Tuesday, -2, Losnox. Nos. 9, 2'B l • 9 331. - • COUNTRY. Nos. 21, 127, IQ" ; VI • 130, RA, 196, 204, 477,, 385, 387, 471. • 497, 501, 507, s .'; ; ;' 579, 532, 544, 551, 551, 592. Wednesday, -3, LONDON. Nos. 36, 75, 220. 124, CO U gli NT. Nos. 54, 134, 95 , 12 , 1 ' 1'64. 126, 129,.139, 1 4 u , • 4 00. 207, 229, 291, 3,1 9' 465, 468, 472, 4 8 1 , .63, • 505; 513, 526, 529, 577, 581 - , 585, 81 Thursday, - Los - DoN• N4 6 ),Z 1 2% - 3 5 1, 761111 , , 71212: Friday, 277;324. 0 1, '1 „ COUNTRY. Nos. 48, 51. 7 0 , 182, 234; 416, 4 20, ,, 5 0, • 453, 466, 469,_5 0 x' 555, 560,. 561, 5 86, 607, 670, 670. 4A `A Nus. 10, 210, 3 09 / r A A Nu. 13, .213, . 4 " 470 ' 533, 538. No. 173. Saturday, -5, LONDON. COUNT It V. • • •. Monday, Tuesday, V ednesd ay , No. 347. No. 95. Non. 1,3, 41. -6, LONDON. COUNTRY. lit ELAN D. July , 1, CORK. -2, Coin:. -3, Cox:. ' e h ir It is said the Grand Lodge of Northumberland ( win„wo eludes that of Newcastile-upon-Tyne, Sir Jowl } 1 - nunNE, Bart. P.G.31., intend giving a magnificent ; o f tainment to his Royal Highness the Duke of SussE%, L'ooAs Master of England, on his Visit to the North. sg h bf compliment will be paid his Royal Highness at Edinburg . • the Alasonic Body; PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINCv• DOCSE or COMMONS. Mercurii, 26° the Junii, '1822. 10" ROADS—Southwark and Surrey.—Report on :Petitio n for ,read ; and another Bill ordered to be brought in. FIRCHILD'S ESTATE BILL LORD ANSON'S ESTATE BILL WESTMINSTER IMPROVEMENT BILL} and p a v ., DOYLE'S DIVORCE BlLL—reported; amendments agryttaii: ORPHAN'S FUIiD COMMIT T EE-ilepOrtbrOUght . to lie on the table, and to be printed. s a lt ' O S i 'ROCK SALT—Petition of John Morris, of Lawton, „ ar t 0 - nufactuter, to allow Rock Salt to be refined in ail r England ; to lie on the table. aa t"'' METROPOLIS POLICE BILL—" for the more e tfectuThi c epr . . nistration of a Justice of the Peace in and near the .I , l ol' polis " presented, and read a first and second time, 3 ' l ' nuttedi for this day ; Bill to be printed. . • .I.lead a tashi:dere NOTICES OF MOTIONS for THIS PA: 11 ,,.• Ole I. Mr. Wilberforce,—Motion on Papers relating to Trade. 2. Mr. Nolan,—Bill to amend the Poor Laws. r 10 4 3. Mr. Lennard,—To repeal Act (60 Geo. 3, c. 6.) effectually preventing Seditious Meetings and Asger a ei f t • —Also to repeal Act (60 Geo. 3, c. 8.) for the nwr'' i sdi• tual prevention and punishment of Blasphemous ¢ 6e tious Libels :—Also, to repeal Act (60 ,Geo. 3, c. " . • Br given by Publishers. • k 1 1"4' 4. Mr. ougham,—To reft. Petition of Calcutta Ball -e a Committee. 5. Mr. Abercrornby / Production of Proceedings in Suit between Alexander and Borthwick ; the C — c i tbe, Proceedings by Alexander against Borthwick Dora Preeognitions and other informations by which the o i l 6s Advocate and his Deputies acted in their against Borthwick. a.) 6. Mr. Goulburn,—To repew the InSurrection Act (Irchio ORDERS OF THE DAY for THIS DAY. 1. Deeds Registering (Ireland) Bill—Second Re adin g .. 2. Roasted Corn Bin—Third Reading. ' 4.3. _P l r l i e s h o o n us L e tt s w i s ,i A ce l i n is e in nd g n ß ie i n il t±latAdi te l i - n fou nitt .do ' 5. Slave Trade Acts Consolidation Bill—Further cons' don of Report. • - - • 8. Fees of Courts omm 7. Stamp Duties Ac Bill—C ts 155 Geo. ittc?. 3, c. 184 and 1851--`- 14' , tecthereupon. \ - , ' ' ' . 8. Juries (Scotland) Bill,Comtnittee. 9. Prison Laws Consolidation Bill—Report. . 10. Weights and Measures Bill—Report. ~ 11. Five per Cent. Contracts Bill—Comnaittoe. 12. New Churches Bill—Committee. 13. Exchequer Otilces (Ireland) Bill—Report. 14. Land Revenue (Ireland) Bill—Report. ..,„ 0 . 15. Prisons Establishments (Ireland)—Report there o r 10. Metropolis Police Bill—Committee. • 17. Insolvent Debtors Court (Ireland) Committee t'll..eretlP°l''. *° For LITERARY NOTICE Of TILE HISTORY O f J° l ' 2( QUIE GENUS, see the Fourth Page. PRICE OF STOCKS Tu (.9 t)A. y" vr ONl.:'O'cf,OcK. 5 1,t ' t Palk Stock 242 India Stock ..... . ...... ::: 5 , JP 3 per Cent. Red. Bo4i India 80nd5 ...... b0nd5............. 0' . 00 3 per Cent. Cons. shut South Sea Stock .• ..... "... 1 1 per Cent. 3i per Cent. 913 Old Annuities: ........... ••:,ta_ I Old 9BA 98 New AnnuiticS ~ ....... -•:.shao; I. New 9Bgi 3 per Cent. 1 75. 1 ......... 1.1. P 5 per Cents. 1797 Bank Long Ann. 203 7-16thi India for Con. Ace:. • j'iiilio Imp. 3 per Cents. Cons. for ACcunnt...-- --... . ar 4 i• . : . f - • PRICE of FOREIGN STOCKS IN LONDON' J French Five per Cents. 91 50.. • ' • • Prussian . Five per Cent. Bonds, 87. - (Old Bonds, 102. , Colombian Six per Cent. Bonds, 'B3i. • Ditto Scrip, 841. . Spanish 5 Five per Cent. Bonds, 62ti 4. ( New Ditto, 62. . • ' ' Danish Five per Cent. Bonds, •87.1• Neapolitan - Five per Cent. Bonds, 73. • 5 Six per Cents. . • • Russian ( Five per Cents; (Metallic) 77. Austrian Five per Cents. (Metallic) 7 9 i - • Chili . • CO. Russian e 24 ,i. n ,[loi lc II IG II WA TE RAT LON DON BRIDGE TO ...U." -after 9 Morning, '43 minutes after 8. 1 Evening, 7 minutes THE LATE RIOT IN , AVE:FT3II NSTEE..—Yest-er day the man named T'Velsh, otherwise - Ralph' Hart, one of the rioters who was shot in the disturbances among the Irish in Great Peter street, on the 27th of May last, died about seven o'clock, in the Westminster Infirmary, of his Wounds. ' From the period of the de ceased • being brotight into the - Hospital, no hopes were entertained of his recovery. It up- ---...... ~ oo r pears the ball or slug had passed the top of the = hc f,,re hipbone,on the right side,and lodged itself in the We have great pleasure in lr.ying " int o rt°t abdomen. Every endeavour had been made by the R ea d e rs th e f o llowing gratifying and .7- 2 0' medical tventlemen to extract the ball, but with assurance that the difference bet weol tl' i C°li out the desired effect; the unfortunate indii'idual d :"" try and China has been amicably at.ii;n , ste p ro lingered under the most excruciating agonies.— .. During his confinement he was repeatedly visited [Extract of a Letter from the Agent toLloyd',lt I'Y m . by the Rev. Mr. HAvA au, a Roman Catholic dated June 26. 7 s Ili il ] ' .• Clergyman, who paid him every attention, and cc The Purser of the lion. CurnPaul w itt was with the deceased only a few minutes before' 0 , he expired. A Coroner's inquest is summoned Kent has just landed here with des •at cl d iffer to sit on the body. . brings the gratifying intelligence th at the THE SUN. sOLEM ours bICERE F4LS(I,II AUDg-417 LONDON, THURSDAY, JUNE ‘27 1S