The Sun. — London, England, 1853-08-13 00:00:00

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While the impression produced by this remarkable spectacle is still fresh upon the public mind, it may be well to direct attention to some' facts connected with it which seem worthy of being recorded. That such an event should have taken place with so complete an im munity from accidents under circumstances so entirely favourable, and with such liberal and excellent arrange ments for the gratification of all who witnessed it, may be regarded as scarcely less interesting and important than the brilliant success of the display itself. In former times sightseeing was encompassed by many riskis, and its pleasures were not unfrequently damped by serious and distressing casualties. But now, with a vast extension of occasions calculated to excite it, we enjoy a comparative safety and comfort quite un precedended. A naval revie w is, of all spectacles, probably that which involves those who assemble to witness it in the greatest risk. Taking place on so grand a scale as that of Thursday, the - fact of no serious accident having occurred is highly gratifying. It is computed that the event added about 100,000 strangers to the ordinary population of the vicinity in which it occurred, and that during its progress upwards of 1,000 steamers, yachts, and craft of all kinds were afloat, in attendance on the evolution 3 of the fleet. The public have therefore a debt of gratitude to acknowledge for the arrangements by which they were enabled to witness so magnificent a spectacle with so few drawbacks to the pleasure which it was calculated to inspire. Its thanks are in the first place, and most prominently, due to the Ad miralty, for the liberal spirit in which they have acted, for the opportunity which they have afforded the coun try of appreciating the efficiency of its navy, and for the accommodation which they provided for all who had a claim to be present. The representatives of the press are under special obligations to them—to Admiral Sir T. Cochrane, to Mr. Triphook, his secretary, and, in deed, to all the heads of departments—for the facilities afforded to them in the discharge of their arduous duties. The officers and men of the different ships composing the fleet, or attending it, are next entitled to thanks for the hospitality and good feeling displayed by them to wards guests on the occasion. Preoccupied as they were by the business of the review, they had still time to spare for acts of courtesy and kindness. Most of the men-of-war had parties of civilians on board, all of whom received the greatest attention. It is expected that a brevet promotion will gracefully mark the Queen's ap probation of what she witnessed. Next to the authorities of the Admiralty and the offi cers and men of the fleet, the exertions of the different steam-packet companies must be acknowledged. The facilities which they afforded were undeniably great, and tended very much, not only to the convenience of the public, but to the effect of the review. They had it in their power to cause vast confusion and inconvenience ; but, with a very few exceptions, they adhered very laudably to the prescribed order of sailing ; and probably the most flagrant breach of rule throughout the day was committed by the members of the Legislature who broke through the line of the fleetandtook up amidway position at the moment when the action was about to commence. The railway company also exerted themselves creditably in providing for the accommodation of the public, but with a considerable difference as to the result. From the want of a proper staff great delay and confusion took place on the South-Western line. The subordinates did their utmost, and 13,000 passengers were conveyed to Ports mouth from the Waterloo station, but the directors seem unable to understand that, upon an emer gency, they ought to meet the increased demands of their traffic. The Brighton and South Coast line has the advantage of a far more effective manage. ment, and in consequenee by that a roundabout route passengers were able to reach the metropo lis with much less delay. The whole question, however, of railway accommodation on occasions of this sort ought to be revised. Having seen a good deal of the inconvenience which the public suffers when events of interest concentrate them upon a particular point, we feel satisfied that there ought to be some understand ing among companies to meet the difficulty. The pres sure which has this year been cast upon the ordinary resources of the South-Western Company may next be the fate of any other line, for in this country we are every day becoming more gregarious, and already the resources of the locomotive and the rail are taxed to the uttermost to meet the usual exigencies of their passen ger traffic. A good deal has been said about the exactions prac tised upon strangers on occasions of this sort, but Ports mouth is like the rest of the world, and yields implicitly to the ordinary market law of supply and demand. Flooded with visitors, the charges for accommodation of every kind rose accordingly, but the George, the Port land, and other leading hotels, maintained under the circumstances a moderate scale of charges, and, if all the world wants to go to a certain point at a particular time, it must make up its mind to pay smartly for what it gets. It is confidently asserted that the town never witnessed such an influx of visitors, and great difficulty was expe rienced in supplying for them a suitable commissariat. Altogether the review -will insure for the Royal Navy a large measure of those benefits which in this free country invariably flow from publicity. The attention which it fixes upon particular ships tends to strengthen the recent regulations, by which the mischievous system of paying off crews when they had been brought into a state of complete efficiency 'is put a stop to. The Duke of Wellington, the Agamemnon, the Imperieuse, and other war steamers in the fleet will not now be lost sight of. A spirit akin to that which actuates our finest regiments, and which spreads through every branch of national industry, will be diffused among the ships' com panies of our navy, and the great principle for which Sir Baldwin Walker contended throughout the recent dock yard inquiry will gradually be extended over the whole service. ENCOUNTERS AT EBOR. The Great N or th ern ga th er i ng w ill co mmence on Wednesday with attractions surpassingly powerful and Intere,sting. Its p rogramme con t a i ns twen ty-five "events," among which upwards of thirteen hundred a 1 11:1 fifty guineas will b e di s t r ib u ted for com petition. The abundant promise of sport too is likely to be ful filled in every particular ; the contests will be exciting and important, and speculation brisk and extensive. At present the Ebor Handicap almost exclusively occupieathe thoughts and time of the betting brother hood ; and the movements in the Turf-market connected with it are watched with growing curiosity and interest. Rumours of "good things" are, as usual, rife, and ad vertising prophets boldly proclaim their confidence in "certainties, at long shots," and their willingness to communicate their valuable information for the small charge of half-a-crow'n and five per cent. on the winnings ! I, however, cannot " see into the middle of next week,"• and have no pretensions to prescience, or the gift of second-sight, and must therefore draw my conclusions.. from those arguments which are suggested by public tanning and the proc ee dings of the cognoscenti. Uncertainty exists as to the numerical strength of the field for the Ebor Handicap. I have carefully examined the list of acceptances, and I am induced to belieie that the starter will not muster more than a dozen competitors. When' the " muster roll " is called, the following will, perhaps,- be numbered among the mis sing :—Newnainster Robbie Noble, Little Harry, Gossamer, Muscovite, Father Thames, Lambton, Exact, , P arley Girl, Now-or-Never, Galvanism, Talfourd, Eulo gist, Bab e tt e , R oger Th or nton, The Surveyor, Dame Tattle, Li ar f or d a Coomburland Stathesmon, Ann e Eliza, Incognita, Cabin Boy, Nava, St. Andrew. Before the day I may have " power to add to this number." .„. i Panteniime, Cat's-paw, Adine, Lord Lieutenant, and -16 -ng of Tr um p s h av e almost engrossed speculation. Pantomim e is backed with considerable spirit, his parti sans deeming his easy victory over Adine at Brighton • Buffieient to justify the most sanguine confidence in his ch ance- Adine will now encounter him on 51bs more advantageous terms than when they met at Brighton, hut still it is argued, with a good show of reason, that there Pantomime gave Adine a 51bs beating. For the encounter under consideration, however, Adine will carry 10Ibs less that at Brighton, and this reduction in her impost must be duly consi dered, as experience teaches us that every pound over B st produces a telling effect. Still lam not pre pared to deny the formidableness of Pantomime's chance, but wherever he figures in the encounter Adine will be in close attendance. The confidence which is placed in Catspaw appears, to me, to be scarcely wasranted ; his *wei ght is undeniably favourable, but, in my opinion , t he d istance will militate materially against his success. Ring of Trumps belongs to a dangerous stable. He too possesses sufficient racing merit to render 'him a formidable opponent. Whether he is intended or not I am unable to determine, but should he "go for the money," I shall expect him to figure prominently in the foremast rank of competitors. His running with Adine is alone calculated to occasion sanguine expecta tions of his ability to achieve success. His stable corn- Pardon, Red Lion, is also favourally weighted, and his olaance must tbe de,msd utterly ins:gnificant. Should a demonstration be made in his ur, I shall be in duced to number him among my "select few." Lord Lieutenant iias many confident supporters, and t he lightness of his we ght and the cleverness of his Party have caused him to he advanced to a conspicuous position :n ;he betting. That he has "done things in Privnte " rrfficlent to justify the many investments that have been made on him is unquestionable. A ?lost° is handicapped at a racing weight, but, at present no disposition has been evinced to "get on him at advantageous prices. From the "outside division" I select Ktteflyer and nick Turpin as being most worthy of notice. From information I have received, to use the language of the police, I am induced to look out for "sweet Peggys market day." To enter into a further discussion of the comparative chances would unnecessarily occupy space. The horses that I shall select against the field are PANTOMIME, ADINE, and KING OF TRUMPS. Lord-Lieutenant and Catspaw are next entitled to con sideration. For a cockboat I shall take RED LION. A rumour has just reached me respecting strange doin gs in Dawson's stable. Should the report be true, some curious revelations respecting the agents of " Cap tain Armstrong" may be expected in the course of a few days. August 13. NAVAL INTELLIGENCE. THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 13, TB5 3. of knowing that my successor in office—one of the most . nean, possessing two closed seas—the Sea of Marmora, and your lord lips for the indulgence which you have shown eminent members of the present Government —cordially the Euxine Sea—and a flourishing capital, and if that me in listening to the remarks which I have felt it my duty and generously declared in the House of Commons that in power joined with one of the other two it would be per- to make. (items i I feel most st rong ly th e i mpor t ance o f my policy towards France I had maintained the dignity of fectly impossible for the remaining power to maintain its the subjees, b u t nothing could ha t — ve induced ma—although my country. It was not, however, on acco unt of an y per- position in the Mediterranean. I am myself at a loss to there may o • s or , cedent for ito mak e any f act i ous sonal feeling I viewed with regret the attacks which were , con ce i ve any po i n t o f f ore ign policy of more vital cense- motion ise :dust the Government on the question of their directed against my policy towards France, but because I . quence to this country than the maintena nce of the integ- , foreign policy. The present question is not only a matter knew that foreign countries do not under s tand —as we in I pity and i n d e p en d ence o f Turkey ; and I can hardly ima- of importance as regards the stake at issue, but the honour England do—that certain journals belong to one party and . gine a sacr ifi ce t oo grea t t o i ns ure that independence, for of E agl hat it and. is cs the omptely i of hernvolved Majesty in the result; and nt to I do certain others to another, and that whoe ver ma y happen it would not only be for the interests of this country, but think t the duty 's Governme to be Minister is certain of being constantly and vigorously for th e i n t eres t s o f peace , and e t as arrant of the ter- furnish the country with some information on the subject, abused by the newspapers in the interest of the party op- ritorial di s t r ib u ti on o f E uro pe, as arranged by treaty. My to state what line of policy they have adopted, and with posed to him. ( Laughter ) I regretted the attacks which lords, it has been said by many persons in this country what results, and to declare with what animus they entered were directed against our close alliance with France, be- that the Turki s h em pi re i s in a state of decay, and that into the affair ; and lam firmly persuaded that they might cause I feared they would not be estimated abroad at their the most p ru d en t course to a d op t w ith rega rd to it would safely have done this without in the least degree impeding real value, but might be construed to indicate that the be, laying as id e all tre a ties and obligations, to come for- ,or hindering the negotiations which were goin toeg on. They majority of the people of this country wer e either averse ward ansf m a k e a p ar titi on o f T ur key, or establish there I migh t have answered publicly the manifess of Russia, t hin in indifferent to the French alliance. I cannot help some independent governent more suited to the state of ; which were no doubt itended to be read by Englishmen thinking that the language of the press in this direction, European policy. Th a t ima theory, to my mind, at least, lus well as any one else; and the effect of not answering during eleven months, must have made a strong impression as absurd and ruinous as the one to which I have already those manifestoes has been certainly unfavourable to the on foreign courts, and, among others, on the court of referred. It is absurd to suppose that a government so es- Government, as far as the public is concerned. lam well Russia. If such an impression did exist—and I know, as tablished, whatever might be its form, whether a federal aware that certain dispatches are necessarily kept secret, a fact, that it did—it must have bo os t strength- government, an empire, or a monarchy, could be really in- but I think that the Government have rendered themselves ened, if not changed into almost positive conviction, by the dependent, or that it would of be under the control and liable to injurious suppositions, from their having given circumstances which followed, Lord Derby resigned on direction of Russia and Austria. It is impossible that such the house and the public no information on an affair so the 2d of December, and was succeeded by the present a government could in any way maintain the equilibrium closely affecting the honour of the country. The French Government. Your lordships know that the eyes. of all of power which now exists in Europe, but which would Government published their munifesto, relative to which Europe are especially fixed on the foreign policy of a new bid fair to be subverted unless the Ottoman empire be there never was any difference between the Governments Government, and the line which it will probably take maintained in all its integrity. My lords, made, one do not of France and England. You appear to have thought is anxiously discussed at foreign c ourts. Now I say that agree with the statement which has been that the that France was too bold, and ran too much risk of offend foreign courts—which were then labouring under the im- Turkish empire is in a state of caducity. It has no debt, ing the Emperor of Russia. These suspicions arose from pression created by the language of the Opposition press and its commerce has of late years much increased, your silence, but there was no r eason to justify your during the time we were in office—had their attention and Ido ,not believe, although it may perhaps be less concealment. I am certain that the document sent in at this particular moment attracted to two remarkable civilised as regards its domestic affairs than other countries reply by her Majesty's Government would have done that speeches made by the members of the present Government. of Europe, that that circumstance renders it a bit the less Government honour. I should not suspect the Govern- The noble lord opposite (Clarendon) will not, of course, formidable to its enemies, or that the axiom is true that in meat of not having answered the Russian circular in fitting suppose I am making any attack on him, for he was not all cases civilisation makes a country more powerful in re- terms, and I think it was a grievou s mistake not to pub then in office. As little can the noble lord's eminent col- sisting the attack of an invadin g enem y . The Turkish a rmy lish that answer. Wherever Igo I hear it repeatedly re league who succeeded me in office suppose I intend to at- I believe to be in a better condition and more efficient than marked that it is humiliating to England to see her Foreign tack him ; nor can the noble earl at the of the Govern- it used to be : the commerce of the country has considerably Minister appear as if he could not answer Count nstead of Nessel ment, who, lam sure, must have deplored the s p eeches I increased ; the policy of Turkey to foreigners is an im- rodeo circular. If you had taken this line would have have referred to as much as I did. One of th e s p eeches in proving policy, and I know no country so liberal to all re- being. embarrassed in this house, I think you question was made by the First Lord of the Admiralty — ligious denominations. (Hear, hear.) lam unable to see found what you have always found, and will find if these one of the most able and experienced members of the Cabi- any symptoms of decay in the points to which I have important events are not settled, that Parliament will net—and the other by the President of the B oard of Con-, called your lordships' attention. An argument has been support you in any difficulty which concerns theh I should interests trol. In these speeches the speakers did not hesitate urged in support of the alleged caducity of the Ottoman em- of our common country, and you will see, wat openly to condemn the conduct of the French people in pire to which I must beg your lordships' attention. It ► like to show to foreign nations and foreign Governments, their choice of a ruler, and the only inference to be drawn has been said that the fact of the proportion of the that in this country, not only have we not degenerated from these speeches—which I need not take the trouble of Greek subjects of the Sultan being larger than that of the i from our predecessors, because we have grown richer in quoting—was, that the members of the Government by Mussulman population is a syroptom of the cudacity of the peace and have advanced in civilization, but also that even whom they were delivered were actuated by a hostile feel- Turkish empire. Now, that is an argument which might that spirit which is inseparable from free institutions — the ing towards the People and the Prince of the country of with equal, if not greater coe'eney, be aPplied to our Indian I spirit of party- -would have been sacrificed whenever the which they spoke. It cannot be supposed that the speeches possessions. The excess of b the Greek subjects over the I common interests of our common country and the honour made by two such distinguished individuals, taken in con- Mussulmans in the Ottoman empire is nothing compared lof the Crown were at stake. (Hear, hear.) nection with the language so long used by the Opposition with that of the Pagans over the Christians in our Indian The Eail of CLARENDON—My lords, I certainly was not prepared, when my noble friend gave me notice of press, made no impression on the mind of the Emperor territories, and yet it can hardly be said that that vast em the question he was going to put, for so long a speech, of Russia, at that moment, perhaps, hesitating as to pire is in a state of caducity. My lords, before I sit down, whether he should yield to the temptations of his position. I must beg your lordships to follow me in a short statement Do you not suppose that his impression, in common with which I wish to make of the affairs of Turkey during the very interesting certainly, but still so long, and consisting that of other powers, must have been that it was impos- last four or five months. The unfortunate question of the of so many narratives as my noble friend has given. There Bible any cordial understanding could prevail between Holy Places having been brought forward in- February, are parts of his speech which I hope he will not think me France and England? Not only is it material to suppose Pr ince Menschikoff wasAlispatched to Constantinople. He discourteous if I decline to follow. My noble friend h as that that must have been the case, but I know that it wa s arrived there, certainly, as I believe, with no distinct in - laid down various propositions which no one would think the case. I know that thi s w as the impression made, and tention of adopting any particular course. His language was the conviction felt in the minds of all ruling persons in hau g hty and his mien arrogant, while the first act he com- of disputing, and he has also made allusions and statements every Court in Europe. This, I say, was an addi - mi tted after his arrival at Constantinople was to insist upon which , in the p resent state of affairs, I think it m y p ublic tional temptation te Russia , because, if England and the immediate dismissal of the then Secretary for Foreign I duty not to notice for the same reason that I have hereto- France did not hold together to resist aggression on Affairs. He then refused to hold any communication with f ore re f use d to a nswer them ; and I assure my noble friend Turkey, she must, doubtless, fall. After this there the Minister, and insistedupon communicating directly with that it is very painful to me to have to give the same came another reason for doubting the anxiety of our the Sovereign. My lords, at that time he did not, how- Government to defend the freedom and independence ever, make the proposition which has since become famous ; answers to questions over and over again, and to decline of the Sovereign of Turkey,—l allud e t o th e occas ion that proposition was not put forward for six weeks after his to lay before your lordships have the information that your when Prince Leiningen was sent to make demands on arrival ; and I must beg leave to point out to your lordships lordships and the country have the right to expect, to the part of Austria, when we failed to show that activity what was in reality the purport—what the meaning of that remove the state of anxious suspense that has so long lasted, in supporting our ancient ally whi c h wou ld h ave b een p ro posal. It insisted that the Turkish Government should which interferes with all the business transactions of the the wisest as it was the most honourable policy. (Hear, grant to its Greek subjects for a perpetuity all those hear.) I think that when Prince Leiningen s mission took privileges which they had enjoyed bY successive firmans country, and which has led to feelings of impatience and place our Government evinced great supineness in respect from the Sultan—that is to say, privileges which they h a d i n di gna ti on . And I assure my noble friend that it is with to the language anti demands of Austria. When we enjoyed at the will and pleasure of their Sovereign. It great reluctance, and from nothing but a sense of public allowed Austria to insist on the Sultan abstaining from was proposed to the Sultan, under fear of Russia, to bind duty, that I still adhere to that principle which has been further coercing his own subjects—the rebellions Monte- himself to grant privileges to his own subjects. The pro negrins—vve ought at least to have secured for the Turkish poeal was analogous to a foreign power insisting upon the the principle of all former Governments of this country, and army a safe and peaceable retreat from the roug h a nd ( l an . Q ueen o f this country securing for ever by an act of her has been sanctioned by Parliament—namely, that of not gerous country in which they were e m pl o y e d. I k now o f own thos e pr i v il ege s to her Roman Catholic subjects which making communications whilenersotiations are pending, and 0 no previous instance in which an army evacuating, by were conferred upon them in 1829. It was a matter of of not laying before Parliament separate dispatches or per treaty, a hostile country, has not been protected from perfect impossibility that such a demand could ba com- bons of dispatches. But with respect to the answer to that molestation during its retreat. In this, h ow e ver , I believe plied with. The Turkish Government could not have circular to which my noble friend has again alluded, I ag ue stipulation in favour of the Turkish army was made by acceded to it, even if they had not been backed by their England or France, and th. 3 consequence was, th a t f rom o ld a lli es , b u t s t oo d a lone in the quarrel. Be that as it sure him that it is in argument the same, and in tone not 1,500 to 2 , 000 T urkish soldiers were destroyed. Thi s , and may, the proposal was refused. We are not in the posses- less firm and moderate than the note of the French Govern other circumstances connected with Prince Leiningen's S io n of official papers relating to this affair, as none have meat, of which he has expres s ed h is satisfaction. And it is, mission, must have tended to impress Russia with the idea been laid upon the table of your lordships' house, but the as I have said, nothing but a sen s e of dut y that p revents that, happen what might, we s were not disposed to draw public are in possession of correspondence on the subject , t h e swor d in defence of our ancien t ally. What happened which there is no reason to believe to be at all incorrect. me giving my self the satisfaction of laying that answer on anothe' occesion could not fail to strengthen the impres- The Turkish Government replied, with much dignity, that on your lordships' table. But her Majesty's Government sion thus created at the Court of R uss i a , as I k no w it did it was impossible to comply with so unreasonable a pro- aro anxious to do and.. say nothing that can impede the that prevailing at other Courts of Europe, I refer now to position. The Russian envoy then gave notice that he peaceful solution of this embarrassing question, for what occurred after Prince Menschikoff's arrival at Con- should quit Constantinople, and retire to Odessa, but s t a ntinople, and before he made his famous demands in fit- before doiug so he wrote a note to the Turkish Govern- our object—and it must be t hat o f y our lords h i p s—is the your of the Greek pop ulation. At that period we had at meat —extraordinary, from its unprovoked insolence— maintenance of peace; hut peace, as I havesaid before, con Constantinople a Charge d'Affaires of considerable experi- (hear, hear)—and which, if it he authentic, is unsurpassed sistent with the national honour and the national faith, and once, h e h a d o btained a high character when employe d by by any l etter to an y civilised Government iu the history therefore with the national interests. (Hear.) For , my Lord Palmerston, and I can speak only in his praise when of the world. I must beg to read to your lordships that he was employed by me. I refer to Colonel Rose. That letter. I take it from one of the daily journals, which lords, lam sure her Majesty's Government would ill repro geu tleman thought that events were pending which made states that— sent the feelings of the country, and they could not rely it desirable that the English and French fleets should ap- " Prince Menschikoff, on taking his departure from this upon any support from your lordships or from the public, if preach nearer to Constantinople—in short, he wished them place, having failed in intimidating or seducing the Porte peace were purchased on any other terms. In one portion to make ademonstration in the eastern p art of the Mediter- into the most dangerous concessions, addressed the follow- of my noble friend's speech, with reference to the alliance ranean. It seems that Admiral Dundas took a different i n g note to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, which has view of the case, and exercising h is discretion, did not b een communicated to the Legations of England, France with France, he has reviewed the circumstance s that mi g ht comply with Colonel Rose's demand It appears , furth er, Austria, and Prussia : ' have influenced, and next the reasons that may have in that the government approved Admiral Dundas's decision, " Bujukdere, May 9 (21). duced the Emperor of Russia to take the course he did. and took a different view of the necessity of the case from "At the moment of departure from Constantinople the My noble friend began with a full review of his p olic y that entertained by Colonel Rose. Ido not prete nd to sa y undersigned , A mbassador of Russia, has learnt that the I think it desirable that on that occasion the English a nd Sublime Port r its intention to proclaim a during the time he was himself in office, against -which I te French fleets should have repaired to Besika Bay , or e ven guarantee for the exer cise of the spiritual rights vested in am not prepared to say anything. lie has alluded t o to Smyrna, but Ido think it of immense importance that the clergy of the Eastern church, which in fact renders the abuse which has been directed against himself at that crisis everything which bore the slightest ap- doubtful the maintenance of the other privileges which by the press. I think it is a little out, of time and place in pearauce of want of cordiality between the fleets, or of that church enjoys. unity of policy between the two Governments, should " ' Whatever may be the motive of this determination him to allude to such matters on th is occasion —(hear, any have been carefully avoided. - But what happened`? The the undersigned is under the necessity of informing la; " hear)—but lam sure he will acquit m e of hav ing had French Government, taking alarm at Colonel Rose's sum- Highness the Minister of Foreign Affairs, that a declara- thin g to do with these attack (" Hear, hear, from the mons, in two or three days sent their fleet into the Greek tion or any other act which, although it may preserve the Earl of Malmesbury.) I can only say I very much regret water ; while our fleet—in defiance of the urgent request integrity of the purely spiritual rights of the orthodox many Of those attacks made against my noble friend. I of our Charge de'Atlaires, remained at Malta. This cir- Eastern Church, tends to invalidate the other rights, pri- believed them to be unjust at the time, and I have found cumstance naturally inspired the Courts of Europe with vileges, and immunities accorded to her religion and them to be unjust since ; and I entirely agree in the state the idea that the two Governments had adopted different mutts of my noble friend in the other house, that there clergy from the most ancient times, and which they enjoy lines of policy; and nothing, in my opinion, could have was nothing in the relations between my noble friend and at the present moment, will be considered by the Imperial tended more than this unfortunate circumstance to encour-the French Government that was inconsistent with the Cabinet as an act of hostility to Russia and her religion. age Russia to make the demands which she subsequently " ` The undersigned begs, &c., dignitygi and honour of this country. But I cannot admit preferred. If the two fleets had proceeded toe-ether in the - " ' MENSCIIIKOFF. noble friend is entitled to claim the entire credit of having established these friendly relations with the direction pointed out by Colonel Rose, the act would have " `His Highness Redschid Pasha, Minister French Government. He has talked as if between this made such an impression on Russia, that she would have of Foreign Affairs." stopped there, and Prince Me slikoff would never have I •lords, how the Sultana'refusal to cannot conceive, my s t a te of hositility, if not more, and that the idea had first --- _ . . . . .. . . . is V 1411 8 , ‘ ________.a, (sciri , tt , te „, i,:.,:.. "~ i-= vernment, was, that at the time the Eng '`fleet wa t sent for by Colonel Rose the French fleet',4ailed from. - Toulon, while ours did not leave Malta. lothave said' before that Colonel nose did write to Admiiitl e ,Drindas - e t under the first impression and excitement prodtma 14,3 V-; - Prince Menschikoff's arrival- attended by certain circum stances to which my noble friend has alluded, although not correctly. PrinceMenschikoff did not ask for the dismissal of the Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs. He did nothing more than has been announced by the Russian Go vernment. He sent in a note, saying that the late Minister having been the instrument by whose conduct the viola tion of the promises given by the Sultan to the Emperor lead occurred, he was determined not to intrust any nego tiations through that channel. When Prince Menschikoff went to the Sultan, therefore, he requested that the corres pondence should be sent through the Grand Vizier, or any other Minister. Prince Menschikoff did not call upon Fuad. Effendi, and he was dismissed ; but his dismiss al was not asked by the Russian Government. Still, Prince Mens chikoff's arrival under the circumstances did produce a great deal of excitement in the minds of the Turkish Go vernment, and Colonel Rose did write to Admiral Dundas, not exactly to come to Constintinople, but stating that he understood the fleet were a b ou t t o take their summer cruise to the East, and recommending that his departure from Malta should be hastened by eight or nine days. Ad miral Dundas did not comply with that request, and when, a few days after, things became peaceable, Colonel Rose expressed his satisfaction that the fleet had not come, and his belief that bad results would have followed had it done so, and that the negotiations then being carried on with the Russian ambassador might have taken a hostile course. On the news of the English fleet being sent for by Colonel Rose reaching Paris by the telegraph, orders were given for the French fleet to go to Salamis. This was done without consultation with our Government. It was done on the spur of the moment, the French Government believing that the danger was imminent. However, the order was given, and when the French Government communicated this order, we frankly told them that the danger did not appear to us to be so imminent, and that at that moment we did not think it necessary that our fleet should leave Malta. But the French Government said that under the circum stances—and it made no difference in our relations—Toulon being further west than Malta, if danger did occur, and the, two fleets were wanted, they would be in a line, and more handy for action and better able to arrive at Con stantinople together, and to act in combination, if one were at Salamis and the other at Malta. We entirely agreed in this, and the circumstance did not for one mo ment throw a single shade of difference over our relations. Her Majesty's Government were entirely satisfied that the French fleet should be so much ahead of the Englis fleet, and the result has proved, that when the fleets were wanted to proceed to Besika Bay, instructions were agreed upon on the same day at Paris and in London, and dispatched by the same telegraph, and within a few hours of each other the fleets arrived at Besika Bay, which could not have been the case if one fleet had been at Toulon and the other at Malta. That circumstance never produced the slightest difference, or shade of difference, between the two Governments. My noble friend says there certainly was a difference between the two Govern ments that influenced the Emperor of Russia in the policy he pursued towards Turkey. I cannot dive into the mind of any man further than my noble friend, but I will merely say that the assurances that were given to us were the same as those given to my noble friend, although they went further, because the Russian Government gave us general assurances, and also more particular assurances as to the objects sought by Russia in the East. No Sovereign could have given more solemn or more sacred assurances of re spect for existing treaties, and for the territorial arrange ments of Europe, The Emperor of Russia never hesitated to say that he considered the maintenance of the Turkish empire as a great principle of European policy, and that for that purpose ho would yield to none in his desire to maintain the independence and integrity of Turkey. (Hear.) The Russian Government has, on more than one occasion, agreed with her Majesty's Government that the dismembeiment of the Turkish Government would be a great European calamity, that it would lead unquestion ably to war, and that it could not be settled without great disturbance to the existence balance of power in Europe. Under these circumstances the Russian Government sent Prince Meuschikoff to Constantinople, not as my noble friend says, when the question of the Holy Places was seAled, because it was not settled. It may have been settled in the French sense, but that makes all the dif fel ence ; and it was on that account that the Emperor of Russia resisted the settlement. He said that those privi leges had been transferred to the Latins which heretofore had been given to the Greeks—that this was a violation of solemn promises made to himself ; that it was impair ing his moral influence, occupying as he does a high and elevated position in the Greek Church ; and that it not only impaired his influence over those who professed the Greek faith in the Turkish dominions, but that it react& d prejudicially upon himself over his subjects in his own do minions. He therefore considered that it was absolutely necessary that the question should be set right. I must ay that from first to last, acting with great respecttowards the French Government he said he would not seek to de prive the Latins of the advantages they thus gained, although at his own expense, but that he would seek from the Turk ish Government some equivalent, and he should require that that equivalent should be secured to them, not as be fore, under a firman, which experience had shown him could be violated, but by some explanatory act of a more binding character which should prevent future disturb ance. Therefore, my lords, this mission was undertaken, not, as my noble friend says, after the question was settled, but it was undertaken for the purpose of settling the question, and it was not at first so very easily settled. Various conferences took place. The Russian Ambassador and the French Ambassador had to meet various times upon it, and it was at last mainly adjusted by the friendly intervention of my noble friend her Majesty's Ambassador at Constantinople, who, this country being uninterested in the question, was enabled to act as amicus curia. By the advice he gave the question was settled in a manner satis factory to all parties, and his services were acknowledged by both the French, the Austrian, and the Russian Go vernments. It was only after this that, on the sth of May, certain further propositions were made by the Russian Government—propositions certainly of which we had, until that time, no idea. We certainly did not know that proposals which amounted at last to little less than a pro tectorate, that any such proposals`vvould be made ; and we not unnaturally supposed—having officially received the assurance that Prince Menschikoff had a very wide lati tude in his instructions to conclude the matter in any way he thought proper—l say, we not unnaturally supposed that this first proposal of his was an attempt to gain as -b as he lssibly could, with a - 'ntention to take less A FRESH MAN. MINING INTELLIGENCE. (Prom the .Mining Journal of this day.) The Gold Mining Share Market this week, sympatbis log with the general aspect of the Stock Exchange, has been firmer. BusineSs has been far from active, but More disposition perceptible to purchase the leading de scriptions, nearly all of which are, consequently, higher. The exception is Nouveau Monde Shares, which remain heavy ; this is to be in a great measure attributed to the number of sellers, and the previous glaring reports (none of which have been verified) put forward by the superintendent. The stocks of the less accredited adventures remain at a heavy de preciation. It has been reported during the week that Mr. Calvert, whose geological researches in Australia we alluded to lately, has discovered gold in the granite of England. The reduction of this he intends to at tempt by his new theory of electricity ; if this has a suc cessful issue, it is impossible to judge what results it will lead to. On Monday, the favourable news, tending to a pacific solution of the Eastern question, caused some Improvement in this market, in sympathy with the gene• ta lly improved appearance of the Stock Exchange. Although only a moderate amount of business was transacted in mining shares in the early part of this Week. the market improved towards the close , and transactions took place in a great 'many dividend and other share. Prices, however, with a few excep tiena, have ruled lower ; and the advance in Stray Park' and South Frances, which we noticed as having t aken place in our last, has not been maintained - -many shareholders, tempted by the rise, having forced their shares on the market. Among those most in quired for have been Dolcoath, Condurrow, S o uth Cara (l°n, Keswick, Devon Great Consols, bopper North Downs, and Trefusis. Of low-priced speculative Mines a great many are offered without finding buyers at any quotation. In miscellaneous shares the market has shownsymp tomss of In the metal market, notwithstanding the rise of U. Per ton on English block tin, announced in our last, Such is the firmness not only of that article, but banes, that advanced rates are already demanded, and will have to be acceded to ere purchases very extensive can be concluded. This, with the reduction of stock in tin- Plates, will tend to put them to a hi g her fi g ure. C opper and lead are firm, and g ood business tr ansacting in the former. The .welters, how ever, do not advance the standard to the miner in that fair and liberal manner they might, and which is demanded by reason of the enhanced price of labour, fn ow and consumable materials. The stock o f s p elter is 'joy.' unusually reduced in quantity, and 221 . pay in g for f orward delivery. The iron market is in a very ex cited State, particularly in pig-iron, both Welsh and Stafford shire, in consequence of the present stock being less t ian one-half of what it was in May last. Pig - iron i n the Clyde has advanced to 3/. 50., and higher rates are ex pected. All the ironmasters are in the market as buyers, a _ n d the cry is " There never was such times." In rails • °Nld bars the demand considerably exceeds the make, and the orders o n h an d will take eight or nine months to c omplete. i Even this period may be extended , u nless Strikers go to work instead of prowling abo ut in • i dleness, to the ultimate ruin of themselves and fa milies. N 'good ever results from such ill-judged measur es. In the Bullion Market,—Mexican and South Ameri can dollars, 4s. per oz. - Bar Silver contain in g rid, all gold above 5 grains in the pound to be p aid for, t:- lid. per oz. stan d ar d. Bar silver without gold , ' l id- per oz. standard. Ba r g old ; 775. 9d. per oz. Standard: C o lumbian doubloons, 76 5. 3d . to 765. 6d. per Oz. Fine cake silver, ss. 6d. per oz. 4 NOTHEE ELECTION FOR THE OF EWE OF SHERIFF. Yesterday a Common - Hall wag e the office of Sheriff (4 a fit and proper person to serve Wire the office • h Alderman ' Joseph held for the electi of Lorrden, and, jointly with room o f Mr. of Sheriff of Middlesex, bond to serve the Turnley, who had refused to give of the office on being elected. the names e in the Mr. Potter (the Secondary) read list for the office of whose names stood upon the _,,,„ e, Alder of sheriff. They were Mr. Henry Muggr,: r. 11114 ° ; Mr. John Thomas Norris, and NI George A ppleton Walli s . • The t wo fi rst names, although long known in the C ity, appeared, upon bei ng p u t u p on the board, not to be known at all in the hall, while the name of the third g en tleman, wh o , we believe, never showed himself hustings before the day of his nomination, favour With all the rapturous accompaniments of was s rited wel come and recog - nition. All hands were held up in of Mr. Wallis, who was immediately declared to be the successful candidate, and upon being called upon to cotri receivedav th ed e forward and announce his acceptance of the office, ad vanced to the front of the hustings, and in an excellent and emphatic voice addressed the meeting to the follow-, log effect :—" Fellow-citizens,—you are, perhaps, some what surprised that I should be a candidate for the office of Sheriff. I assure you that such was not at all Sheriff intention, that I would not have con templated anything of the kind if I had not found that the shrievalty was hawked about the City, and that it was put up for purchase and sale. (Hear, hear.) as that such was the case, I deter mined' that the livery should have it in their power to elect a man who would not support the system of job bery; which has so long prevailed, and which will now very soon receive its death -blow. (Laughter, and cries of "hear, hear"). I shall be proud to serve in the office of Sheriff. I mean to perform the real duties Of the Office. I shall have no l oano gen tlemen behind covered with lace- (laughterj—but I shall do the business in such a manner as will satisfy My respectable fellow-citizens that my object in taking the office was to serve them, and not to support the continuance of the gew-gaw exhibitions which have so often been substituted for the performance of the essen tial duties of the office." (Cheers.) _ eThe Lord Mayor and Aldermen having returned from the Council Chamber to which they had retired during election, the result ' was formally declared and the Com mon Common Hall was dissolved. 1241PEakitAL, PARLIAMEn 1. HOUSE OF LORDS--(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. PETITIONS The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH presented several petitions against the Merchant Shipping Bill. The Earl of ALBEMARLE presented a petition from the Bristol Chamber of Commerce, praying that both British and foreign vessels be required, under the Pi lotage Act, to pay the same amount of fees for pilots. Lord MONTEAGLE presented a petition from .cer tain Parsee merchants, complaining of certain acts of the Government of India ; also, a petition from the Cor poration of Dublin, against ministers money in Ireland. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Rochdale Improvement (No. 2) Bill. The following bills were a third time and passed : Cork and Bandon Railway (No. 2) ; Galway Improve ment ; Banbridge, Dublin, Newry, and Belfast Junction Railway - • South Wales Railway (Pembroke , & c.), South Wales Railway (Power to Purchase, &c.), South Wales (Deviation), Galway Harbour, and Severn Rail way Bills. SEIZURE OF A CHINESE JUNK AND MURDER OF HER CREW. The Earl of ALBEMARLE moved for Copies of 'all correspondence and documents in 1851 and 1852, be tween the local authorities of Singapore and the home authorities, relating to an outrage in which a junk, or Chinese ship, belonging to Singapore, was plundered and her crew, to the number of 11, put to death under a pretext of piracy, by the Rajah of Trin ganpe, a Malay prince, on the coast of Malacca. He expressed a hope that the Government would give every facility for the purpose of having these cruel outrages redressed. The Earl of GRANVILLE said the Government had no objection to the motion. The motion was then agreed to. RUSSIA AND TURKEY. The Earl of IeIALMESBURY—My lords, in accordance with the notice which I have placed on the minutes of the house, I rise to move for the papers which I have there mentioned, being the translation of two manifestoes pub lished in the St. Petersburg Gazette by the Emperor of Russia, and any answers which may have been made to those documents by my noble friend the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. Your lordships may easily imagine that if I had been moved by any party feeling or factious motives, or even by any feeling of personal vanity in wish ing to present myself before your lordships to discuss so important a question as the present, I should not have chosen this late period of the session ; I should have ap peared before now to ask what had been the negotiations of the Government on the subject, and should not have waited till within a few days of the end of the session, when so few of my friends are in London to attend the house. (Hear.) Having myself had the honour of being in the position which my noble friend now holds, I thought, and still think, that every indulgence should be given to a Minister employed as he has been in commu nications upon a question of such momentous importance to the peace of Europe. I therefore, while, as your lord ships well know, I have at different periods asked ques tions of my noble friend as to the continuance and the re sult of these negotiations, have always bowed to his wish and that of the Government not to proceed to a considera tion of the whole matter in question, and not in any way to embarrass the Government, inasmuch as they led us to suppose that any premature discussion on the subject might possibly prevent that happy result which we all so anxiously desire. But, with respect to the papers for • which I now move, I may truly say that they are not to be placed in the same category with negotiations and cor respondence carried on through the medium of despatches. (Hear.) Judging from the little experience I had at the Foreign-office, I can see no objection to - the production of papers that are not correspondence, but which have been published to all Europe by the Emperor of Russia himself, in his own language, and especially as they have appeared in the language and in the public prints of France and England. I cannot, for the same reason, see why we should not have the answers which we understood the other night had been made by noble friend opposite to these maul_ festoes of the Emperor of Russia. (Hear, hear.) Those manifestoes contain much than ought to be answered - they contain much that none of your lordships can assent to ; and, inasmuch as the French Government did answer immediately and ably those manifestoes, and inasmuch as two out of the three powers have publicly put forward their sentiments on the matter, I cannot understand on what ground the Government can stand up and refuse those documents to your lordships and the other House of Parliament. (Hear, hear.) I was told, when I formerly asked for these paper, that it was not the custom in this country to publish diplomatic correspondence in this way. It is perfectly true that diplomatic communications are for obvious reasons kept back until the Minister, in the exer cise of his discretion, thinks it right to place them on yo ur table ; but, as I said before, these papers do not come within the category of correspondence ; and certainly there are precedents known to your lordships that would at once relieve my noble friend, who is anything but a pedant, from any pedantic pressure that might be laid on him by official custom. (Hear, hear.) In 1822, if lam not mis taken, when the entry of the French army took place into Spain, Mr. Canning immediately published a paper on the subject—l believe within 24 hours of the time when he received his information. And, going to a much later period, it is only a few months since Lord John Russell published in the newspapers of the day a despatch which he had sent in the case of the Madiai to the Court of Tus cany. Before I say one word more, I must observe that this question has certainly caused more public anxiety than anything that has occurred within the last 23 years. I must remind my noble friend opposite that after 38 years , of peace, when the minds of ncen have been turned so long to peaceful employments—to commerce and the arts of ci vilisation, -we may perhaps feel somewhat more nervous than our forefathers, who were more accustomed to long wars and hostile alarms. We have had all the indications of the greatest possible apprehension in this country. There has been a great fall in the funds, and a great rise in certain provisions, while there has been a considerable hindrance to trade and speculation ; and I think the Go vernment ought to have left no means unemployed to allay the excitement that had been raised to so high a pitch. I believe, however, that that excitement and ap prehension have been very much increased by the con tinued and lengthened mystery which the Government has thrown over their operations and negotiations on this subject. (Hear.) This state of things may be said to have continued since the month of March; and here let me say, it was difficult for your lordships, as it was, indeed, for me to believe what had occurred, when you first saw those signs of aggression on the part of Russia, on our ancient ally—that most important country to us and to all Europe—Turkey. It was certainly a matter of great astonishment to every person here, who had for so many years placed the greatest confidence not only in the honour of the Emperor of Russia, but also in the Conser vative policy on which he has long prided himself, .and which he had so emphatically proved during the revolu tions of 1848. (Hear.) No one could be snore astonished than myself, for during the year 1852, when I held the office which my noble friend now holds, it was impossible for any sovereign or any court to show a more sincere in terest in the maintenance of treaties, and in those territo rial arrangements which have happily subsisted for so many years in Europe, than was shown b y the Emperor of Russia. If there was one sovereign in Europe more than another, if there was one Government more than another, that impressed on me the importance of maintaining in violate these treaties, and that the present w t e rritorial ar rangements of Europe should remain. uninfringed, it as the Emperor of Russia and his Government. (Hear, hear.) Not being in office I cannot follow out uai alnte d with them can, or enter into all their various details, but I cannot help thinking that I can account in a degree for what has happened. The Emperor of Russia, it appears, was deeply irritated at the conduct of the French Government with respect to t the Holy Shrines in Palestine. That subject had long occupied my attention and that of her Majesty's Government when I held the seals of office, and we left no oppor t un ity untried of urging the French G o vernment to a satisfactory and early issue of the unfortunate dispute. On the part of the French Government and the French Emperor we were met with assurances that they were equally anxious to bring the dispute to an end, and that they would make no unreasonable demands, and just be fore my noble friend then at the head of the Government left office, the French Ambassador at Constantinople was changed, and a man of a singularly mild and conciliatory character succeeded to his place. But it appears that in the Emperor of Russia's mind what had passed had not been effaced. Although when M. Lacour had repaired to Constantinople the question relating to these Holy Places was finally and satisfactorily settled, and although this took place before Prince Menschikoff arrived at Con stantinople, still it appeared that the impression on the Russian verment remained unaltered—that they were dissatisfied with the settlement of the question, and still suspected, or pretended to suspect, the Turkish Govern ment of wishing again to impose upon them conditions which they had no right to impose. It is not for mortal to read the human mind ; but your lordships are aware of the traditional policy imputed to Russia, and therefore it is impossible to divest oneself of the idea that the Russian Government might have conceived the moment had arrived which a large portion of the Russian population has for many generations looked forward to as a predestined epoch, at which they were to march upon and obtain possession of the capital which their Sovereigns have long coveted. If that feeling was shared by the Emperor of Russia and the members of his Cabinet, I think it was because they were net restrained from yielding to the fatal temptation presented by the course of events which had previously oc curred. When the Queen's late Government was in office, our policy was much canvassed and criticised on many points, but there was one point, one against whi ch an un remitted shower of censure was directed by that portion of the press which represented, or appeared to represent, the opinions of the late Opposition. The Opposition news papers of the day especially assailed the foreign policy of Lord Derby's Government during the whole time of their continuance in office—l mean that part of our foreign METROPOLITAN COMMISSION OF SEWERS.—Yesterday, policy which related to France. If there was one news a return to Parliament, obtained by Sir John Shelley, paper which exceeded another in constant abuse of the policy which prompted us to maintain a "close and candid alliance u with France, it was a newspaper supposed by the 11 so l n .P s . I , lo w w a seraprpilloityeeddobfythteh enammeetsroopfottiteanofficcoemrsmainssdiopneersr of Sewers, the offices they have held and now hold, the p blic—l know not with justice—to be peculiarly con , netted and intimately associated with that part of the then salaries now paid, the dates of appointment and the duties i Opposition which was more celebrated for its talents than its numbers, and which has since formed a most im p ortant portion of the present Administration. That ne ws p a p er d s i e s w ci e la rs rr a d t , ea a cihi d m a e t e t t e in n g da o n f c t e he of eo e m a ni cl i i ss C io o n m fr p o i l s n si t o i r : e er l ( s l of January, 1852, to the 7 th ult. The return extends and others continually taunted us with e what they called to 14 folio Pages. The secretary has 8001. and 1001. in our subservient and cringing policy to the French Empe lieu of apartments vacated by him. There are four teen ror. I, personally, was assailed with constant abuse, and trust that I had lost the f m ee y ling commissioners and only one is paid. ' There are a great even ribaldry, on this point ; indeed, it was broadly in- S w l n a u s ate 1 altogether lithong blinded news by ors that I was unfaa my many persons in the employ of the commissionere, and their names are set forth, with the amount of salaries. personally moved by such observations, it ACCIDENT AT THE PRINCESS'S THEA.TRE.—Last even a foreign nation and a foreign sof an En b lis t h h m ru a l n t , o and extraordinary partiality for ing, during the representation of " Sardanapalus, in could wou have 3 . B b Lv ej: s n . the grand opening procession, in which the King makes factory t; me to observe that subsequent events have his entrée drawn by a pair of cream-coloured horses, the proved that the policy the late Government pursued iu leg of one went down through a trap on the stage, and cementing a close alliance with the new dynasty in France Mr. Kean narrowly escaped being thrown out of the was of the utmost importance to this country. I have had chariot. In the confusion caused by the horses' plunging the satisfaction of seeing the opponents of our policy—the upwards of 100 persons being on the stage, one of the n ewspapers—declaring an intimate alliance with France to 1 ladies of the ballet fell through the opening, but for tunately escaped with a few slight bruises. The piece be riot only most useful, but of paramount importance — the only alliance which is of any consequence to Englaid. As far as I am personally concerned, I have the satisfaction then proceeded without further interruption. i MALTA, AUG. 5, An extra steamer from Constantinople has arrived this morning, bringing news from Besika Bay to the 30th ult., at which time the fleets were still lying there, and the men of both in high spirits. Sickness still con tinued to prevail,, but few cases had terminated fatally. As to the question which now agitates Europe, no new phase had occupied the corps diplomatique. The return of the Caradoc from Marseilles was anxiously expected, as it is from the Courts of England and France that the solution of the question is anticipated. The prevailing opinion, however, is in favour of an amicable solution of the difficulties. The French line-of-battle ship Friedland is on shore near the Rabbit Island. Important news from Persia has arrived. The Shah has declared officially that, feeling the right s pf the Russo-Turkish quarrel to be with the Sultan, he should in case of war assist the Sultan. Letters from Trebizonde announce the Circassians to have obtained recent victories over the Russians. On the 3rd of July the Castle of Toprac Kale, with 220 pieces of cannon, was taken by Mohammed Bey, one of the lieutenants of Sc PORTSMOUTH, AUG. 12. It is with much pleasure we record a most graceful act of Queenly condescension, on the part of her Ma jesty, towards the Admiral of the Fleet, Sir Thomas Byam Martin, G.C.8., which will be well understood after our remark upon that gallant officer, in our report of Wednesday last. On meeting the gallant veteran sailor on the upper deck of• the Duke of Wellington, her Majesty shook hitil heartily by the hand and paid much attention to him, inviting him to return with her to the Victoria and Albert, where his flag (the Union Jack) was flying from the mizen. On board the Duke, her Majesty was graciously pleased to command that the Senior-Lieutenant of the Fleet in Commission, and the Senior-Mate of the Fleet he promoted ; the former i 8 Lieutenant George Mason (1827), First of the Victory, and the latter is Mr. H. E. Bacon, of the Prince Regent. But the eventful 11th of August, 1853, is still further to be commemorated by an Admiralty brevet, which, we believe, is now being ar ranged by their lordships, who left Portsmouth for town to-day. Her Majesty expressed her "great satisfaction" yes terday, on board the Duke, to Captain H. B. Martin, C. 8., commanding that "monarch of the fleets" at the state and efficiency "of the shin. Her Majesty's officially expressed sentiments at the manner in which the events of the day were conducted are expected to be promul gated to-morrow in a " general memo," to the Fleet. • The Wildfire steam-vessel, Second Master-Commander Brockman, sailed last evening on her return to the east- ward. The Banshee paddle-steam-vessel, Lieutenant-Com mander Hoskin, sailed this afternoon for the westward. The Lizard and Zephyr paddle-steam-vessels sailed this afterno6n on their return to the eastward. The Alfred. Indianian, arrived at, Spithead this morn ing from the Thames. The Black Eagle, .Admiralty steam-yacht, Master- Commander Petley, came into harbour this afternoon and was placed in the south dock to have her bottom examined. The Vivid and Undine steam-packets, Master-Com manders Smithett and Lyne, sailed this afternoon on their return to Dover. The Avon steam-tender, Master Commander Veitch, sailed this evening for Plymouth. The flag of Rear-Admiral Arthur Fanshawe ' C. 8., was retransferred from the Prince Regent to the Nep tune this morning at 8 o'clock, and the flag of Rear- Admiral Corry was retransferred from the Agamemnon to the Prince Regent at the same time. The Tribune, 3'), steam-frigate, Commander the Hon. S. T. Carnegie, removed her powder and shells this afternoon, and came into harbour in the evening to be docked. ..oppeu ..e, . _ _ saenschikon ..... ... . . . made the demands which - he subsequently advanced. In grant privileges to his own subjects—privileges in perpe- struck - him thaeid , would be very desirable to put an end mums pc), sty count, . _ln intention to tan making these observations, I have no intention to attack the Queen's Government • Mh*t is so lely to direct at- turfy—could possibly be conceived an act of hostility to the strife between the two countries. Now, in the if that was offered. And so it turned out, because this to • y 0 JeC tention to the unfortunate circumstances which I have Russia. (Hear.) I can conceive no proceeding so aptly described by the trite expression " trying to pick a quer referred to—namely, red" as the demand an d th e subseq uent letter of Prince your lordships' recollection—what has, been the policy' of fish Ambassador at Constantinople pointed out to him what the abuse directed against Lord this country with France. The relations exi stin g betweenus would be its practical operation supposing it to be agreed Derby's foreign policy by the Op the the impression, Menschikoff. I can hardly conceive , my lords , that the were of a nature so friendly and intimate th at the y formed to. Prince Menchikoff accordingly gave it up. He next nay, the conviction produced in - the minds of foreign Go- Russian Government could be cognisant of such a proceed the subject of congratulation in the speech from the Throne. proposed another form— a sated, which is equivalent to a vernments by the language of Sir James Graham and Sir ine, or that they could support it. After having despatched Charles Wood ;and finally,the note, Prince Menschik off left Constantinople and retired He might have seen, and lam sure when in office be'raust protocol. That also was objected to, although it was far by the want of joint action on the part of two fleets. Your lordships know that Lord to Odessa, and shortly afterwards Count Nesselrode sent a have seen, ample evidence of the design of this country to less objectionable than the first proposal ; and then the be on the most friendly terms with France, whatever the Prince proposed lastly, a form of note, which the Sultan Derby's Government valued highly the French alliance, dispatch to the Turkish Government, stating that if the and made its maintenance one of the principal points of terms demanded by his Sovereign were not acceded to he government of th a t country—whether it was a limited objected to also, and which, too, was withdrawn. I must monarchy, a republic, or the Imperial form under which say that throughout the whole of these negotiations it was their foreign policy. It appeared to us that it was time to should at once cross the Pruth and invade the principalities. they now line. Thera always has been exactly the same a matter of satisfaction to her Majesty's Government that discard the old prejudices which had for centuries pre- Now, my lords, I mast beg your lordships' attention to feeling, and Ido not say it to the credit of any ono Govern- the combined fleets had not passed the Dardanelles, because veiled between the two countries, and tended to check the another point. It seems, from the documents which have meet more than another, but it was the duty of every nobody could say that the Turks had not acted in a per progress of civilisation. A long succession of wars has re - appeared, taking for granted that they were authentic, that Government, because it Was the manifest interest of this fectly tree and independent manner, guided only by what suited in showing that neither of these two great coup- Count Nesselrode founded his claim upon the treaty of country, to maintain the most friendly, cordial, and in- they considered to be their own interest, and because all tries is able to sujugate the other, but that each is cape- Kainardji, and said that the Emperor asked for nothing timate relations with France. That the attacks of certain pretexts were taken from any power to say that the Turks We of maintaining its own indeendence. We thought more than the observance of that treaty, which, in reality, newspapers—because Ido not apprehend they all joined in acted under pressure from other Governments. On the that two such great nations united in amity, had a glom- gave all the privileges demanded. Now, my lords, I can con such attacks—but that the attacks of certain newspapers 22d of May Prince Menschikoff left Constantinople. I have ous mission to fulfil,ceive no object in asking for a treaty to guarantee rights upon my noble friend for having laboured to maintain no doubt that the passage read by noble friend from his in spreading a civilisation over every part of the world, and maintaining peace, founded on the guaranteed already by a treaty in existence, and if the treaty present territorial division of Europe. of Kainardji in 1774 guaranteed the rights and privileges those relations have produced any effect in the manner lie valedictory letter— (a laugh)—is correct, and I think, if When We came into supposes on the mind of the Emperor of Russia is what I it is correct, my noble friend. designated it rightly, office, the French people had recently ratified tho change , demanded by the Emperor, what was the use of a new really cannot believe, any more than I can believe that his for such language as that is fortunately very rare iu of government effected by the present Emperor. It was treaty in 1853 ? (Hear, hear.) But does the treaty of evident that • the Prince contemplated restoring the Kainardji guarantee the privileges demanded by the Em- mind has been influenced, or that his policy towards diplomatic correspondence, and I hope it will long remain dy na sty of his uncle. It wa s felt to be of Turkey has been guided by the tw o s p eeches to which m y au exce p tion to the neneral rule. (Hear.) Your lordships great con - peror in 1853 ? The seventh article of that treaty ' noble friend, I am sorry to say , has agai n alluded. I are also aware that after Prince Menschikeff had quitted se quence at that tine that this country shou ld stand "Promises to protect constan tl y the Christian reli g ion think . that, this allusion was perfectly unnecessary. I Constantinople a note was sent by Count Nesselrode to well with the new Government, and we were pleased to and its churches, and also permits to the Ministers of the d o no t thi n k that those Speecb.es, have led to any results Itedschid Pasha, asking him t o acce pt within eight days find the head of that Government as anxious a s ourselves Imperial Court of Russia to make representations in favour promisin g to take such as he has attributed to them. It is a bygone story, the note of Prince Menschileoff. Redschid Pasha declined , to establish relations of amity between the t wo nations. It of the new church at Constantinople , and I cannot congratulate my noble friend upon hay- althou g h in the most courteo u s m anner, and then, in pur was not by words alone the Emperor of the Fr ench magi- them in consideration as made by a neighbouring and sin- ins again brought it forward. Those speeches, my lords, nuance of the authority which that letter contained, the felted his anxiety on this point. He proved it b y acts during lam certainly not here to defend. One of them, as my principalities were occupied. I certainly have not the least the whole course of our administration. He proved it at the time when, bei ng a b out t o a d va nce an army upon Your lordships can, I think, hardly fail to perceive the noble friend knows; was deliVered at .a public meeting, hesitation in saying we ha ve l oo ked upon that as a viola- Switzerland, he accepted our good offices to mediate be- great distinction between promising to protect the Chris- without any reference to France, and RS an illustration lion of existing treaties. (Hear.) Although, however, my tween hind , and the Helvetic Republic. He proved it by tiara religion and granting in perpetuity certain privileges how universal suffrage might lead to results different from noble friend blamed the Government for the line of con acting in concert, with us in averting the danger of war to the subjects of the Sultan who professed the religion of those attributed to it, without any thought of the French duct pursued by them upon the occupatien of the princi arisine' out of tn. ) case of Cuba. He showed it when he sent the Greek Church. That is One of the misrepresentations Emperor or the French empire. The other speech was de- pedalos, Ido not intend now to enter upon a defence of an a mbassador to Buenos Ayres at the same time that we of the Russian Government, and upon that misrepresenta- livered at a mere private meeting,e qually without thought that part of our policy, for a sense of public duty does not principalities as a and ask for di when matters assumed a threatening aspect on the ti o n they founded cer t a i n demands, at the same time or reflection of the i f that it might create. At the permit me to do so. Wo might certeenly have recom- South American continent. Still more did he p r ov e it threatening th a t if those demands were no t acceded to they meeting of Parliament this session the matter was brought mended the Sultan to have acted upon that which was un whendissension unfortunately arose between the Sultan and wo uld sendnn army across the Pruth and occupy the prin- by the noble marquis (Clanricarde) under the attention of questionably a cases bal. (Hear.) I have not the least the Pasha of Egypt in consequence of the firman, when th e c i pa iiti es , My l or d s , I mus t sa y th a t I consider sending an this house. It was then fully explained by. the noble earl doubt that we might, if we had thought proper, advised Sultan endeavoured to force the tanzimat code on his vas . arm y across th e Pruth t o b e no thi ng mo re nor less than an l a t the head of the Government in this house, and equally the Sultan to treat the occupation of the sal. This case was very remarkable, because we know th e i nvas i on . (H ear , h ear. ) I h ave h ear d th e occu p a ti on of the I sa tisfactorily explained, and I may say apologised . for, in casus belli, to suspend existing treaties tq avoid the chances of war— interests our pro feeling with which France has always regarded English in- pr i nc i pa liti es d e f en d e d on t h e groun d th a t b y cer t a i n I th e o th er h o use of Parliament. I believe that my noble tection. We did not, however, think it advisable to ale so , having to appeal to the people fluenco in Egypt. Your lordships are aware that th e t ree trea ti es t h e E mperor o f R uss i a h as a r i g ht t o send his friend (the Marquis of Clanricarde) expressed himself satis- —not because we did not consider it to be a cases belli but ditional policy of France has always been to thwart E ng li s h t roo p s i n t o those provinces, biit under circumstances totally fled with the explanation then given, and I know that the because we thought it was incumbent - s upon us in the first interests and agents in Egypt. It used to be supposed ins- diff eren t from the present state of affairs. In the first same feeling existed in the other house. And I may say , place to do all that in us lay possible for English and French agents to act tog e th er i n pl ace , th ere can be no doubt as to the nationality of those to the credit of the Emperor of France, that if ever he had (hear) ;—and we thought (Hear.) It was u that country. When war between the sultan and his vassa l prov i nces . Th e t re aty o f Adrianople and the treaty of any such feeling as the noble earl imagines, he at once of this country, that ere should i:tit come with a good grace was imminent, and we appealed to the great Powers to as- Anermann, in 1826, declared that the Pruth was accepted those explanations given by lmn• gentl eman under to them unless we could show th a t we had exercised and silt in averting it, we f oun d none so anxious t o e ff ec t th a t t h e b oun d ary bet wee n the territory of Russia and the accidental circumstances, as I may call them, in which exhausted every effort these maintain au honourable peace. po p.rlcipalities, we did not recommend to object as France. Considering what has always been the the Ottoman e mpire. S u b seque nt t rea ti e s a l s o s p ea k of th e y w ere spoken, and the thing was treated as norasurean. grounds that, upon the mere policy of Franco in respect to Egypt, the cordial action of those two provinces as belonging t o the Turkish empire, And Ido not think that my noble friend will find many to occupation of t h e th e F r ench Government i n thi s ma tter is n o s l e nder t es t of a nd therefore there cannot be the slightest possible doubt share his opinion , expres s e d in brin g in g these s p eeches f o r - the Sultan to exercise hi s un d oubted and unquest i ona bl e its sincerity. Then, again, upon the question of the political as to which country those two provinces belong ward, that they had .anything to do with the notion that right of treating that act, as it was, as an act of war. And refugees in this country—a question deeplyaffecting France to. On t he sth of Jul y the Russians crossed the Pruth England and France would not act together, and that it in thi s I must beg to say th a t, throughout the whole of the on account of her proximity to our shores—we found the and usurped t h e g overnment of those p rovinces—the eel- wou ld therefore be safe for the Emperor of Russia to per- negotiations, eh althougla I did not allude to the joint action FrenchGovernmentexhibine• no nervousor irritable feeling. leetion of the revenue, the management of the post-office, sue his own policy. I have, my lords, on more than one of the French r n ezi t it n e i t g , I hn i N r , s x t ' o bl e y n oli a r lordships to lam gsad that our anxiety to follow out the policy which and. in short all those departments which form the civil go- occasion, stated to your lordships; how intimate and cordial understand tha Cl t r we had thought it expedient to adopt w ith respec t t o th a t vern ment—and it is even said that they went further still, the alliance between France and England has beton. I re- consulting the French Government. (Hear.) There has great country was not in any way discouraged bY the abuse and enlisted some of the natives of those provinces into joie° on this as on every other opportunity to repeat it, and be . en neotiation almost daily ; by dispatches or by which was Was showerea 1) Y - the daily Press of this country upon their own army. I consihr, my lords, that the Russians to assure your lordships that there has been throughout the that policy. My lords, when I h av „ a id so muc h , I must b y th us cross ing the Pruth and invadine the Principalities whole of this Eastern question the most intimate and cor . The for- tees Governments. On every important proceeding graph unshornq have been asked, and answers immediately also add that our cour se of policy with regard to France, have violated the treaty of Adrianople, for the present oc- dial, I may almost say daily, communication between the- sena, in order that there should tot exist any variation of and the desire we evinced of establishing relations of amity cupation is very unlike any former occupation. policy, and in nothing was the French Government more there united with us than in not considering this as a versus MI i. with that country, did not in any respect stand i n t h e way mar occu p a tions of the Principalities have been either to has never existed any material difference of o • • of our alliance with othe r na t ions continuing on the same secure the payment of a debt which the Ottoman Empire took the same view of the policy to be ado t pinion. They Moreover, we found that the instructions we sets to our terms of cordiality and amity which had happily ex i s ted did not abjure, or have taken place at the wish of the has been complete unity of action betweenl3 e and there ambassador at Constantinople to this effect rosed the between them and the Government which preceded us. Turkish Government to put an end to disturbances, as was course that has been pursued. With those them in the dispatches which were soon atterwrads received from my assurances that noble friend, stating that such had been the view . of n th to e The language we used to a"- nations was alike, fonwe said, the case in the year 1848. There is not the slightest ana- have been given to the public of both co that while England would not willin g ly b e c ome the adver- l ogy b e t ween those occupations and the present one. The those manifestations which have also been \ countries and with Porte, and that such had been the advice ho had gia t -e re_ given of this the Porte. (Hear, hear.) I certainly a sary of any nation, at the same time any act of aggression present one has taken place not only without the consent, unan i m it y, and whieh are now before the teas I s hoc© bean world, itivould be pared to enter into this question as fully as or any act which ' would remove or t en d t o di stur b a „ b u t i n s pit e of the protest of the Sultan, and not to expe- impossible for the Emperor of Russia d (the Earl of landmarks or territorial arrangement now sett l ed, or whic i l du e th e p a yment of a debt, but to compel the fulfilment of East had any reference to thealliance if his policy in the led to do hy the speech oi my noble frien . desirous to put vernment in the form of lan • of France a.nd Ea Malmesbary), but still I have been most . infringed. any existing treaty, would meet resistance and a demand made to the Turkish Go d-it must have been impossible of existing treaties for him to believe that your lordships as far as I can in possession of the infoima diseouragement at our hands. (Hear, hear.) My lords, I an ultimatum, and in direct violation ; that alliance did not exist d . i the country at large think that the present Government, when they came into and I can only look upon it as an ac aggression. My it would not be brought Jan was not sincere, and that don. which both your lordships a nt . eh countations are rd to the conduct of her Ma- Governments to act in any way in which those must be anxious to possess. Althone lordsh i ps office, must have been sensible of the happy results of the I lords, I must say, with rega 1 might determine. Hstillpending, I will uot hesitate to state to your that they have had some ( ear.) The next point course of foreign policy which we thought it our duty to 1 jesty's Government, unless . good to which my noble friend have arrived at their pre events, they mu s t have found the ad- reason , unknown to the people of this counti7, for adopt- Emperor alluded as having influenced the by what steps those negotietions , . adopt, and, at all _ h ve adopted, I do not thin interest vantage of the intimate reliance which existed between ing the course they a hnk that it k they her Majesty's Gove , DO raiment appeared to show toward- Tur- when Ido so my We friend must be at once convinced, this country and France ; for I say that if it be true—and have acted wisely. ll e t fleet of this was a prudent thi ng a t k ey d ur i ng th e m i ss i on of ie • ' look to the forbearance and moderation which he has I sincerely hope that it may be true--that Turkey is saved the outset to place the country, in conjunc.Prince Leiningen. This question j has also been broughthitherto exercised, and bearing in mind that he is aware within forward, and I gave explanations at h from, Russian aggression and Russian appropriation, it is tion with the French fleet, the reach of the melbas- 1 the • .extent of Ministerial • responsi either country, but I also think that to England and to France that such a result is entirely Faders of _ time, which ou • l d li . thou h t . f• t y or svs oug tsais ac ory. . . We from late eelle.nce of the i- in th es e twitters —I am sure, I say, he will under wing ; and the late Government laid the foundations of Russian army stop the Pruth, the moment communication with the Austrian Government on bilny . had en . 1 th e su bit t-w • fail .explanations 1. that a more full discussion of such matters will no tand t give -0 • e did not to ask for full staret that alliance which has now brought forth fruits which rived to go a further, a o instructions to relative to the be desirable. It was after the note of Count Nesselfleets to enter the Dardanelles, en, which ex la- now mission of Prince Leining . , #. t dive. none must be so ready to aeknowledge as her Majesty's the allied elle& I consider nations Irode had been rected by the Porte, and after the princis Government. My lords, it is hardly necessary for that Her Majesty's Government have not acted wisely • et ns, must say, there was no disinclinanon o . . had occupied that the t • t present lordshipsimportance esuch • and, • In The Austrian Government said that the expedition to relinesbeen ~ , oppor um y seemed me to point out to your the enormous not rennin„ instructions, my lords, I firmly Montenegro then to hay© arisen when mutual friends might treat the that, had the fleet was carried on upon very large scale, con of maintaining the independence and integrity of Turkey ; beliehveee_di)e.n a re adva entered the Dardanelles, , liar, the allied a ewers at Constan- m atter as having entered into a new phase. It had then and, indeed, I should not touch upon the subject at all if I we s _1 . s mo ntageous position than at pre- I powers 11 t' -nces certainly, by the occupation of this portion of the Turkish not aware that there is a certain section of , politician s sent. It ought to have been the Policy of this country it o a ee prosi , nople, so as to endanger the secur y . territory and in contravention of oxi - ' • were par o ..e . —a small one, happily—who openly, and without hesitse advance step by ate with P n There • p another ease a, and retreat in a similar het there would be a rising of her a European character, which imposed upon other Powers tion, declare that the maintenance of the independence d c° and ta manner. t fleets e s ia l o d er reason why it was most desirablereason to apprehend t . would be in dewier. tinder the necessity of interfering in some way or other to put an integrity of the Turkish empire is a matter which signifies the enter the Dardanelles. people, and that her frontier wou a a mission to the Porte, end to such a state of things. Them ediation of Austria very little to this country. ;an when these persons . are s may not be aware that thorn • exists considerable lord- these circumstances, Austria sent hdillud be offered. Wh h ' n- eisement at C nstantinoconsiderable ex- to request that this e xpedition of Omer Pasha s et er it was asked for or not, or offered shown that, unless the independence of Torkey t o e m r ai ple among the Turkish It . end to, and to-represent, thatealthough she not w a shou being asked for I don't exactly know; I only know d and theref re o ther npu a ion, put an ... tained, this country will not be able to maintain h o . esecond daneer. There is th thmity of the Sultan over the was acted upon. Th , e Austrian C t ad hevent ofthe ,evernmen m e a to India, they . go so far as to say that oven in sue t an . Russians proCeeding in the * * the danger mean to nispuse eau li c e manner in which his autho- most fair and rea ' as that, there is, in their opinion, no . very grea t ealamity. and there is the danger of the T r career of aggression, MOntenegrinA, but merely a'n on in the “ y e . • • sonaele proposition, saying to the Porte, lam well aware that it is scarcely worth while o answer the Government into measures urkish popul t • forcing a ion rity was exec, , • rcised yet that such a contest e ta g _ You have rejected this note ; furnish us with such a d enerous to her- noto as hich • bourine power was a, 0 we may send to St. Petersburg—something which • but I must beg your lordships to recollect actually bring on a war •and if Which might expedite or territory of a neigh 'retreatof the Turkish army, 1: sl -I such politicians, . , d d nee of Turkey is just now. the Dardanelles the danger of what importance the in open e not aware that any stipulations were violated-All of Russia. Furnish us with such a note as that, and we this moment the trade between England and The appearance of the would not be so imminent am •found 1 500 or 2 000 men wore afterwards cap- w ill 110 ., My lords, at two-thirds than that between nEngland all 'suspicion from combined fleets would have removed I was, that , ' d given orders forwith- „nee to send it to St. Petersburg, and support it when Turkey is better by t he minds of the 1 the p le, tared, even after the Sultan had gi • there." A Ministerial crisis and other causes which at this This, then, being the fact that our and would have afforded decisive Sultan and e - e°- e ' drawing his force. Her Majesty's Government were in moment lam unable to explain,delay ' ' more important by two-thirds than and France would proof that this country caused at Constan trade with Turkey is stand by the Ottoman empire. It would constant. communication with Austria to insure the full tinople, and the Austrian Government, foreseeing the that with Russia, your lordships will immediately perceive , have been useful also incasecompletion of the terms of the stipulations that no the Sultan should require as- injury very great dangers that would arise from delay, called to that if Constantinople, the great emporium of• Turkish sistanee against the violence andexcitement - cts• should be done to the Turkish authority. I have reason getlier the representatives of the other Powers the Minis commerce, should, by the division and dismemberment of , I must repeat, my lords, that lof his sul t ij h e iave to believe that those stipulations were carried out, and tern of FranCe En eland, and Prue ' a 1 ;reposed to the empire of Turkey, fall into the hands of Russia, three i had good reason, unknown to us, elsrthtteGovlernmen they have that the efforts made by . the Austrian Government in that take as a basis ' the note which hadsia,originated with the great powers would be in possession of the Mediterranean . adopted, I cannot but think that t they have lc committed a direction were quite satiefactory. The ne a t p o i n t t o w hi c h F renc h Government, which, with h modifica a —France, Russia, and England—instead of, as at present, grave error . R • d alluded as a roof that - Raving ma d e th ese o b serva ti ons , I will saybut my noble frien , p time French and tions, they proposed should be laid before the Goverments E n gland and France. Your lordships will perceive that little more, but I mus t apolog i se to our l or d s hips before English Go vernments were not acting cordially together, of the Emperor and of the Su ltan as a means of settling I if another great power gained possession of the Medlterree I sit down for the tim e I h ave taken up , an d I must thank and that this again must ha l ve influenced the Russian Go- the differences. These modifications were, in the first 47.) I S,