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Colonel FORD suppo r t e d the measure as a stepping stone to other advantages. Colonel FORSTER explained. The question was then carried without a division, and leave given to bring in the Bill: TH E TWO MARY'S VISITING THE SEPULCHRE OF CHRIST. MR. HALLS' LARGE PICTURE on this 14 SUBJECT is • NOW OPEN, at No. 54, PALL _ : 41,1, —Admission is. • , NAVAL AND MILITARY PENSIONS BILL. The House resolved itself into a Committee on the above Bill. Some verbal-amendments were agreed to, upon the motion of Mr. Grenfell: Mr. HUME entered his protest against the absurd and ridi culous plan of the Right Hon. Gentleman. He thought. it would be more expedient to have recourse to the Sinking Fund at once. - • The Resolutions were agreed to, the House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House Adjourned at HALF-PAST ELEVEN O'CLOCK. ..11:HIS is to .give notice, that in Pursuance of Directions from the COMMISSIONERS for VIC TUALLING HIS MAJESTY'S NAVY, I shall be ready at t . , 1118 Place, on TUESDAY, the 25th inst., - to receive Tenders 'n writing (sealed up), from such Persons as will undertake to •Alrchase the HIDES, (except what may be wanted for the buck Yards), and FAT that may be produced from the Oxen slaughtered for the service of His Majesty's Victualling De : Vartments at Chatham and Portsmouth, from the Ist day of July next ensuing, until the 30t h day of September following. ' l ‘ l, e Twilders to contain distinct prices, expressed in words at len gth for each article, and • to be made" separate for each , • •P o rt. --The same to be paid at the end of each month. WILLIAM MELLISH. • The Vagrant Laws Amendment Bill was returned from the House of Commons -by Mr. Chetwynd and other Members, with the Amendments agreed to. „Mr. Mason, from the East India House, presented an an nual account of the revenues and charges of the East India Company.—Ordered to lie upon the table. ' The Manslaughter Bill and the 'Warrants of Attorney Bill were read a third time and passed. The Annuities Memorials Bill was read a second time. The Recognizances Bill passed through a Committee, and was reported without amendment. The Deeds Registry Amendment (Ireland) Bill was re ported by the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, the amendments agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be engrossed. • _ _ BANKRUPT LAWS. LIST OF .THE MINORITY • ON MR. WESTERN'S For a ‘ c- Committee of Inquiry into the effect of Mr. Pe2l's Bill on' the Agriculture, Commerce; and Manufactures of the •Country, and upon the conditiou of the different Classes of Society." A ttwood, M. " -- Grattan, J. Thompson, AIL Bennet, /lon. H. G. Grosett, J. R. Titchfield, Marg. of Burdett, Sir F. Griffiths, J. W. W o d c h ouse, E d. Bentinck, Lord W. Heygate, Ald. • Webb, E. Burrell, Sir C. ' Honeywood,W.P. TELLERS. Burrell, W. . Latouche, R. Hamilton, Lord A. Brougham, Henry Moore, Peter Western, C.C. - - Browne, Dom. , Monck, J. B. . • Benett, J. Maxwell, J. i PAIRED OFF. Crawley, Sam. Owen, Sir John Barham, J. F. Denison, W. J. Pr se, P. t Barham, J. F. jun. Dundas, Charles Palmer, C. F. . Leycester, Ralph Gurney, Hudson ,Rowley, Sir W. . Ossuiston, Lord . :%- ,ch ;he S hadwell-Dock, June 12, 1822. EAST INDIA HOUSE, June 1824. THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the UNITED COMPANY of MERCHANTS of ENG LAND TRADING to the EAST INDIES, do hereby give et 9 I f' Da; 11,486 Three others of 1,345 Four 18,602 I. , ... 5,000 8,642 a &c. &c. &c. ° cers' t her' I,r l re, t 1 sto r '' ° I , r e "rly fe . e he r fj •ti I3Je' tj ' That the QUARTERLY GENERAL COURT appointed to be held at this House in Leadenhall-street, on WEDNES -1).0 NEXT, the 19th Instant, is made SPECIAL, for the Ln z pose of resuming the consideration of a Bill now pend ing in Parliament, for consolidating the several Laws relat jhg to the Private Trade with the East Indies: and,also the Fonsideration of the propriety of Concurring in the repeal of 1 . 6 Law, by which Shipi under the but then of 350 Tons are 4t present precluded from engaging in such Trade from the United Kingdom. Curt of the Bill, a nd o f th e C orres p on d ence ketween the .... of Di rectors an d t h e B oar d o f Comm i ss i oners for the Affairs of India upon the subject of it, is open for the Per "sal of the Proprietors. JOSEPH D ART, Secretary. • CARgoLL respectfully solicits the °Mm e rk list o. , TT whi E ch are . . _ TWO ... of TWO.. of . 40,000 ! ' - sm. sm. - - • • , Consols and Money, and Not Two Blanks to a Prize ! b :rEN CAPITALS are CERTAIN 'of ng Maw!) in the 1 1 RST TEN MINUTES (matte First Day, t6th JULY ; and ‘ !le Public will have the chance of obtaining all those, as , ell as .the other Floating Prizes in the Scheme , for the triai Risk ng tu of ' 88s. A Whole Ticket," • 2ac. an Half, I is. tid. an Eighth, 138. a Quarter, 45..... a Sixteenth, 7h P urchasers ma return their Shares atter the s mall I ether thei are d rawn or unclrawn at the above Re tion of Price. ha; ARROLL 'bees to remind his Friends of the Suceess which ~,istinguished his Offices, 19, CORNHILL, and 26, 14 "u'RtET, in the Last dud Late Lotteries, where he I sold • YTON, Stock-Broker, 2, CORNHILL, serve and LOMBARD ? STREBT, wishes his Friends to ob aP Q iai , that this Lottery presents the Chance of gaining Great . s a. . the most trifling risk ; for the Purchasers, after ttlr t 'g the Chance o f th e First Day, will b e a ll owe d t o re so al l their Tickets or Shares, whether they be drawn Blanks, tl all Prizes, or undrawn, and may receive nearly the Money aket e 7 as under ••. costs £2l 18 o..may receive back £2O 0 0 .... costs..ll- 17 0.. may receive back.. 10 12 0 Carter .. costs.. 5.19 o..may receive back.. 6 6 0 0 4 th• •.. costs.. 3 0 6.. may receive back.. 2 13 0 ixte etith—costs.. Alt 1 10 6.. may receive back.. 1 6 6 lb e: .r42 wish t o avail themselves of this offer must bring . in tt t ' T ickets or Sh ares on or b e f ore th e 46 t h o f JULY, as to n e will be t a k en b ac k a ft er th a t D ay :—And thus, each barer only hazards, T hirty -Eight Shillings.... for a.... Ticket I ,,,Ppur Shilli ngs . f or a.... Si xteent h . ' e •N CAPITALS of £OOOO, Xiooo, £5OO, £2OO, &c. Are . sure to be drawn on the First Day. Two of £30,000 I—TWO of £20,000 ! •V. Consols and Money.—Not Two Blanks to a Prize. Begins 16th of JULY. l This Day were published, TWO Volumes, Bvo. with a Portrait of the Author, T r ' • price 12s. in'hoards, "D UGIITS, chiefly on SERIOUS SUB a D JEcTs, with Remarks on " Lacon, or Many Thi ngs -4 ',w Words." Y : I,"ILLIANI DANBY, Esq. of - Swinton Park, Yorkshire. ()teeter: Printed for the Author, by E. Woolmer, Gazette 411 d sold by Messrs. Rivington, Waterloo-place, Lon- Messrs. Todd, York ; and all Booksellers. • -NTION to PREVENT MILDEW in every kind (if tr .„-CANVAS for SAILS and STORES. SHIP-OWNER'S of GREAT. BRI eI'EL T AIN are r es p ec tf u ll y i n f orme d b y Messrs. BRO. a nd CO. th a t b e f ore th e (P eace t h e i r method of e,es‘figE,in `LING MILDEW in SAIL-CLOTH was mos t !tic -4l oo4l l.t ried under th e di rec ti on o f th e Ad m i ra l ty an d N avy s all parts of the Globe,—the official documents of Ale r c „; 4 re in their possession. It has lately been used for the tti",gaut Service in the East and West Indies, the Coast of tE7'„aud all parts of the Globe. It has bad the sanction Art a e rresident of the Roval Society, the Secretary to the C) , .vo a nd Sciences, together with the Committee of Ship ofLondon : its Effects have not failed in a single in ro4,rery kind of Canvas to which it is applied is gieatly 'en in Colour and Strenc , th, the Scotch and Browner is I. :, Whether made of Hemp 'or Flax, (the former of which !lltowage strongest) are rendered more pliable—take less lan are more y handed and less subject to• Chafe are co unPrepared'Canvas New Arrivals and Testinlpnials occurrinm—ail of which prove that, by using gtst e `," eustlY Sail-Clcrh 20 per Cent.may he, saved in the t W o llih: f e ro nee of Equipment), exclusive of ncreased . Durability, lit b„ 0 Equipment, several Testimonials in their Possession, appears üble that of Unprepared Sail-Cloth, and requires of The Expence ss. per Bolt, which for a whole , aa vas ails in a Ship -of '250 i.e fons, does not exceed 121.—A1l t l tt 'utid o , i seil . t to their Warehouie, No. 23, AldermanborY, be returned to any part of the Town in a . fe . w w e e d wi th t ,' ine Length and Breadth as at first, Stampen . in b_nett Name, &c. If 20 or more Bolts, the Freight BetiolV, 1". defy back to the Outports. tas ev.eral Pieces of Sails, which have been tried in iMbi~e. Parts of the Globe as well as all the Documents, may W h at their Globe, Scotch Sail-Cloth, and I?riaergone the Process, may be always - had at antic's and Guthrie 's, Idol-lane,• Tower-street, 78, Queen -street, Cheapside. The LORD CHANCELLOR.pretertted a Bill to authorise the superseding a joint Commission of Bankrupt, as against one partner, without affecting the certificate of any other part ner, or the validity of the Commission ; his Lordship having often lamented his inability to give this relief to a partner,-Filo had honourably paid his debts, without, as the law now stood, destroying altogether the joint Commission. His Lordship in timated his intention of presenting a second Bill on Monday, in part pursuance of the pledge he gave in the latt Session, and which, what he said having become known, had produced to him in the interval' many valuable communications. The ob jects of this second Bill were to enable a Commission to be made out against one partner of a firm to authorise the assignees to use the names of partners, giving them an indemnity to make further provision against perjury, for making out inven tories of property, to give an appeal in certain cases against a creditor refusing to sign a certificate, &c. This second Bill, he thought, might be passed during the present Session. There was still a third Bill for the Amendment of the Bankrupt Laws (the objectsof which he thought it better not now to state), of which he did not intend to propose the passing during this Ses sion, put which he meant to present before the close of the Ses sion, to have it printed, and that it might lie over for, considera tion, with a view to its being entered upon early in the next Ses sion. The Bill respecting Joint Commissions was read a first time, and ordered to be printed. STATE OF IRELAND. The Marquis'. of LANSDOWN, fox the Convenience of Noble Lords, stated that had received a communication from the Noble Earl' (Liverpool), who would certainly be in his place to-morrow, and the motion respecting the State of Ire land would .undoubtedly come on.—Adjourned till to-morrow (this day.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from the Hop Growers of the county of Kent, praying that no alteration may be made in the Laws which prescribe that the name of the County, Parish, and Grower of the Holm, shall be stamped on each bag. Mr. CURTEIS said he had given notice of a motion to re peal the laws in question ; but he should withdraw it at resent, for the purpose of fixing it for an early period of next. Session. . • Mr. LUSHINGTON said that whenever that Bill was brought inohe should decidedly oppose it. Atter a conversation between Mr. Bnrrell, Mr. Calcraft, Sir E Knatchbull, Lord G. Cavendish,' Sir C.Burrell, Mr.Monck, Mr. D. Gilbert, and Mr. Alderman Wood, The. Sussex Gentlemen contended that the Sussex Hops Were often as good as the Kentish ones, though there was a prejudice against them, which was confirmed by the practice of marking._ The Kentish Gentlemen contended that the Kentish Hops being in reality better than the. Sussex 119 s, and in conse quence enjoying a better character, it was fair that the purcha sers who were not judges of the difference of quality should be enabled to distinguish one from the other. Mr. CURTEIS was very anxious it should go forth to the public that Sussex were often better than Kentish Hops. The petition was ordered to lie on the table. Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a similar petition from the Western part of the county of Kent. LATE DUEL IN SCOTLAND. - Mr. ABERCROMBIE postponed his motion relatille to the connection of the Lord Advocate withthe Scotch Press, from the 20th to the 25th. Lord BINNING suggested that it would be better to defer it until the Lord Advocate could be present. Mr. ABERCROMBIE replied, that it was necessary for him to take possession of the 25th, or the day would be other wise occupied. He had been induced to postpone the question from time to time in consequence of the postponement of the trial of Mr. Stuart. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE postponed his motion" relative to the additional protection of the Agriculture of the Country, until the next Session. ILCHESTER GAOL. Mr. Alderman 'WOOD rose to bring forward his motion re lative to Ilchester Gaol. Mr. PEEL recommended the Hon. Alderman to withdraw his motion, as the whole subject had been referred to a.Com mittee of the Magistrates of the County of Somerset, with full powers to examine and inspect the Gaol of llchester, and con sider the expediency of removing it to some other paroof the County. _ After a few words from Mr. Dickinson and Mr. Bennet, Mr. Alderman Wood consented to withdraw his motion. Mr. BROUGHAM wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Goulburn) whether he had made his estimate of the maximum of officers that would be deemed ne cessary under the Irish Constables' Bill ? Mr. GOULBURN said ,a few wards, which were not heard in the Gallery. Mr. PLLTNKETT said, that it was not easy to make an estimate of the number of officers, as it was a matter depending in a great measure on the discretion of th e M ag i s t rates . , IRISH. TYTHES. Mr. GOULBURN could assure the House that in becoming the organ of introducing this great question, he had not pre sumed upon being able to succeed where other gentlemen had so often failed ; but he came forward on the part of the Irish Government, with the present measure as the first fruits of their consideration of the state of that country. He did not ex pect to satisfy those who had put forward wild and visionary schemes of appropriating the property of the Church to the exigencies of the State, and thereby to pull down the fabric which was so intimately connected with its welfare; neither did he hope to meet the support of such as would approximate the Church of Ireland to the system which now existed with regard'to that of Scotland. He had been given to understand that the measure he was about to introduce was not likely to be encouraged by those who wished fora general commutation of tithes. The measure in question undoubtedly was not upon that principle; but he did not pledge himself to oppose every measure of general commutation. His measure embraced other objects; and he must be permitted to say, that those who advocated the general measure, ought to be intimately and ex• tensively acquainted with the subject, before they ventured to introdUce it. He did net advocate a general measure of commutation, if in that term were included the forcibly taking away of property by those who had no legal control over it. But he was an advocate for that commutation which essen tially included the consent, the voluntary consent, of those whose rights were to- be affected by it. Without, however, discuss ing so extensive a question, he hoped lie might assume that his bringing forward the present, a minor measure, would not pre-, elude his introducing one of a more general nature; and in this hope he would proceed to state the outline of his present Bill. Tithes he considered as an ancient and a private property, and derived from as ancient and as good a title as that of any other species of property. The tithes of Ireland were held by a, class of the Clergy whom he considered to be respectable, not-. withstanding the exceptionable conduct of many individuals composing a part of it. These exceptions did not interfere with the general merit of the Clergy as a body. He therefore approached the subject as he would any other private pro perty. The ,remedy he intended to propose w ould, - he believ ed, remedy many of the evils at present attending the tithe system of Ireland; and he flattered himself it would be found to contain sufficient to induce the consent of those who were to be. affected by it. The_ demands of the Clergy of Ireland were, he thought, in general enforced with mildness, though he admitted that there were particular instances of deviation from the general rule. In this respect it was to be regretted that the Clergy of Ireland were under the necessity of collecting their tithes front the poorer classes. This was. not the case in England, where the payers of tithes were generally persons of some capital. At all events, the tithes of England were -paid willingly when compared with those of Ireland, where it was too often necessary to demand them by legal measures. The tithe, too, was paid by a number of petty contributors. To illustrate this statement, he would refer to one parish (which he assured the House he had not selected) in which there were 1900 persons to pay4ool. per annum. Itmight, in many cases, b e th e d ut y as we ll as the inclination of the Clergyman, to remit as much as pos sible of that tithe, which he could not collect but by legal enforceMent ; yet the Clergyman," from the great number of small contributors, was too often reduced to the alternative of giving up the means of su pp ort i ng hi mse lf and his family, or of taking legal proceeding's to . enforce the payment of his tithes.lie (Mr. G.) should propose that the incumbent should have the Power of leasing his tithes for 21 years, and that this lease should' bind his, successor. It was therefore almost unne cessary to state, that Ander the present law, a tithe lease was binding only on the living incumbent, and the person who. was to pay.' . He intended however to guard against partial or fraudu lent leases, and had therefore introduced effectual provisions for preventing the taking of any fine or premium for the granting of those leases.. To remedy other evils wh'eh attended the pregent system, he proposed that those leas e s mi g h t b e en tered into with the freeholder and reversioner of the land, as well as the occupier. He should also state, that there were at present many arrangements_betweeti existing incumbents and proprietors ; and these arrangements did not come within the protection of any law, though it had been found that they con duced very much t© quietness, and that there was general tranquillity in the districts in which they prevailed: These arrangements it . was proposed to confirm.—(Hear !)—ln short, the whole object of the bill was to remove every case of hosti lity between the incumbent and his parishioner.. He had been told that there would be objections to this bill on the part of the Gentry and the, landed proprietors of Ireland ; but he trusted he should be doing them an injustice to believe that his infor mation. was correct. He trusted so the more, because this Bill Would nut impedeanyultemate measure which might be thought advisable, with a view to the general subject of commutation. Upon that question he thought the main difficulty would be to ascertain the value of the thing to be commuted. There were, however, many different opinions on this head ; though he thought they might be ultimately reconciled. Indeed, he be lieved that . a Right . Hon. Gentleman (Sir John. Newport, 'we believe) who took so great an interest in the affairs of Ireland 'agreed with his (M r . G.' s) pr i nc i p l e: an d that the,leasing sys tem would lead to an easy commutation of tythes in general. Upon the principle of- general commutation, he should be happy to hear any proposition which did not go to violate the tights of the Clergy or those of private ecclesiastical property._ (Hear, hear 1)- 7 -Indeed he had' been - careful to frame his bill so that it should not possibly interfere with the views of any Ho nourable Member as to. the general measure. The Right Ho nourable Gentleman then moved for leave to bring in a Bill to , enable ecclesiastical persons to - grant . leases to bind their succeseors. Sir H. PARNELL was glad to find that this important sub ject had at last been taken- up by Gevernment. It .involved many great evils ; and he had for many years endeavoured to bring them under the serious attention of -Ministers. The preient question was brought forward in . a most fair, candid 'and liberal mann er , by t h e ' Ri g h t H onoura b le Gentleman.— (Hear I)—B ut the evil itself required a rein edy,..of amore general nature than that proposed. • lie admiteedelie general liberality of the Irish Clergy, but there were many easel of individual hardship arising out of the present law. He knew many cases of individual hardship ; an d h e h e ld i n ' hi s h and a receipt for' law expences, amounting to 50s. paid by a. man whose tithes amounted to only Ils. And yet it . 'happened that the tithes were something more than the rent of the - land. He had heard much about combinations among tenants, to prevent new comers, and this tended very - m uc h' to, keep down the rent of land. - Ale agreed.-that eases mi g ht be. Made !valid, in the way proposed without- interfering w ith the general measure of commutation. To commutation he was satisfied the Clergy of Ireland had no Qbjection, and he had received many letters from intelligent Irish Clergymen expressing their sentiments on this subject. It was the interest of the Clergy to have a gene ral measure relative to the tithes.; and if the Right Hon. Gen tleman (Mr. Goulburu) wished to introduce such a measure, he had nothing to do but consult the Clergy as to the form of it. He wished to induce the House not to agree to ,the Bill proposed to them, which he was sure would be inefficient, and prevent any other being, introduced.. He thought the best course to pursue was for . the Right Hon.. Gentleman to wait till next Session befOre he did any thing on the subject,' when he would be better acquainted with 'the sentiments of the Clergy and people of Ireland, who. best understood their own interests. He hoped, therefore, Ise would not press this Bill, and thereby divide those who were otherwise willing to sup port him. • Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the Bill altogether in efficient. lie was confident th a t th e ParOchial Clergy were not those who oppressed the people of• Ireland by their tithes ; and he knew that the greatest abuses existed in those parts ,where the rectorial tythes were the property of the Bishop. The enactments of this Bill, therefore, were not at all suited to the evils of the cake. So long back as the time of the Union, this question of tythes was promised to be set at rest, and now, 22 years, afterwards, the pledge then given had not been redeemed. That it was necessary' to the tranquillity of the country no one could doubt. It had always been the source of disturbance, and the fact that, in the late dis orders, those counties were most disturbed were the petatoe tythe was exacted, was decisive on the question. For all the evils deicribed to be consequent upon the tythe system, he knew but one remedy, and that was commutation. But what ever was the remedy, it was the duty of Government to apply it, and being convinced that the meaning of the Right Ho nourable Gentleman's measure was to put off a real remedy, he protested against the House adopting it, and supposing they had applied a remedy. H lle, thought it better to wait a few months loriger, when the Right Hon. Secretary would be better acquaintedwith the nature of the evil he.had to deal with. He was sorry to oppose the introduction of a measure of this kind ; and would not do so could he think that any mo dification of it would be available to the intended purpose.— He did not however think that it could in any way be trans formed into an efficient measure of remedy ; and he repeated that he deprecated the measure being received by the House, because he was sure it would have the effect of lulling the House and the country into a supposition that the important question of the tythe system of Irelabd was at rest. Mr. PLUNKETT hoped his Right lion. Friend who had just sat down would not oppose the measure, notwithstanding his opinion of its efficacy. After mature consideration, his Majesty's Government has brought forward measure, the only one they thought fit to be applied to the evil under their consideration, and it was not according t o th e usual courtesy due to his,liajesty7s Government to refuse to read the Bill a first time. He could not agree in his Honourable Friend's argument for that course, founded on the apprehension that the admission of the , Bill would have the effect of lulling that House and the country into a feeling of apathy on the subject. If the Bill were calculated to have a good effect, it ought to lull them to quiet and satisfac tion. If it were inefficient, as he represented it 7 he did not think it was likely to lull either the House or, tne country ; and the warning voice of his Right Hon. Friend couldas well be raised at an'after period as then ; and he was sure the Right Hon. Mover (Mr. Goulburn) was not the person to oppose him in any other proposition hereafter. If his Right Hon. Friend could devise any measure of general commutation, which should not interfere with the great and settled principles of property, he (Mr. Plunkett) would be the first to support him. But he.wished to know on what pxinciple they were to com mute. Was it on that of a fair and full compensation to the Clergy ? If they gave a full compensation it would be an in fraction Of property dangerous to that House to sanction. If it were not on the principles of a fair compensation, it must be the reverse; and then they would be just as well justified in taking from the landlord as from the Clergyman, or any other class. He was sure his lion. Friend, with his reverence for the laws, would not consent to that. The Clergy, at pp sent, had nearer one-twentieth than one-tenth; and the prin ciple of commutation, therefore,-would go to double the present evil so much complained of.—(Hear.)—The principle of any measure that he could agree to must be that the property df the church should be inviolable. Any other principle with regard to the property of,the Clergy_o n c e reco gnized would go to affect the landlord at last. The chapter of tythes once opened., the chapter of rents would soon follow. In opposition to his Right • - Hon. Friend's statement, he would take upon himself to say. that the tythes formed no more an ingredient in the late insur rectionary movements, than did the rent of land, and indeed every charge upon land, whether of a public nature, as taxes, or private, as rents.--(Hear.)—The insurrections were against every species of burden upon land. But on this his Right Hoe. Friend and himself 'were at issue upon facts, and it would be easier to come to an understanding upon arguments. His Right Hon. Friend argued that because the counties most disturbed in the late disorders were those wherein the potatoe tythe was exacted, therefore the rot a t oe ty t h e cau s e d t h e sa i d disorders. Now, it that were the case, how did his Hon. Friend acco un t for the disturb ances o f t h e year 1820 being most flagrant in the counties of Galway, Sligo, Roscommon, Cork, and Tipperary, where that tythe was not levied ? He wished, however, to say nothing hostile tow ar d s t h e landlords o f Ireland, but hei must state, that so far f rom t h e tythe. of she clergy being held in exe cration, it was generally matter of dispute betwixt the landlord and tenant of small patches of, potatoe ground, whether the former or the latter should pay the tythe ; the latter always pieferring rather to deal with the clergyman than the landlord. The parochial clergy in Ireland were always most exemplary in their lenient mode of colleeting their tythes. He did not think his Right Hon. Friend was Justified in his opposition to this Bill; and until a better could be devised, he thought the House was hound to adopt it. Hear) -- - Mr. SPRING —( RICE said, that without a Measure on the principle of a full and fair commutation, no satisfaction could be - given to Ireland upon this subject. What he meant by a fair commutation was to give the clergy the same amount they now received, _better secured, and more respectably collected than at present. When the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman Opposite (Mr: Plunkett) talked of the right of the clergy tb their tithes, he must beg him to look at the institution of tithes, and particularly to the fourfold duty attached to the receipt of them. If the clergy demanded the whole of their tithes, he in return would demand of them this fourfold duty. He was con vinced that the clergy would be found most anxious for such a commutation as that he spoke of. The Bishop might be against it ; but in spite of the whole bench of I3ishops, he hoped they would persevere in their endeavours to establish the peace of Ireland by setting at rest this harassing subject. He felt gratefill t o hi s Majesty's Gov er n ment for having under taken the consideration of this matter, but he could not thi n k this measure w ou ld be effectual. He would rather suggest that a Commission should be appointed by the Crown to in quire, and that the House should wait till the Report of that Commission should be before them. It was sufficient for him to state,that the present plan was bad, without his being called upon to furnish another one better. If they would remove the present tythe system, they would remove one cause of non-re sidence of the Clergy ; and if they , could note make them use ful as religiOus instructors, they would make them a t th e l east more exemplary as Ministers of Christianity in a more ex tended sense. -- Mr. DENNIS BROWNE declared-that for the last fifty years, ever since he tva.S:a boy,. the tithe system had been the cause of disturbance in Ireland. Itliad been the cause of all the insurrections in that country. He was persuaded that Ire land never would be tranquil while that systemllasted. He was decidedly of opinion that commutation would be the only remedy for the evil ; and he would agree to the Bill which it was now proposed to introduce, because he did not think that it would throw any obstacle in the way of establishing commutation. Mr. DAWSON rejoiced Very much at the discussion which had been afforded; on a subject of so much importance to - the welfare 'of - Ireland, and thanked • the Right Hon. Secretary for the temperate manner in - which he had treated this great national 'question. He thougla this bill -would 'niake a good foundation for the perrhanent establishment of this difficult matter, and he concurred most cordially 'in it. Notviithstand, ing . the complaints made, it appeared to him that the clergy ex ercised their tight with- respect to tithes with great lenity and forbearance.• He admitted that some of their agents had at times acted with severity, but he denied that the Clergy them selves ought to be condemned - because some of their agents had acted improperly. -The clergymen conttl not be expected to go and chaffer with the farmers thenaselves. They were unfitted lot this by their habits and education, and they were therefore tioinore to' be blamed for employing agents, than a private . 6entleman was- fo blame for engaging a Steward. The burden's complained of in Ireland were threefold, the rent; the tithes, and - the local taxes. He gave it as his opinion that the princi pal evil connected with the tithes grew out of the law of adjust ment. ' The Clergyman got less than his share; for he believed he seldom demanded more than a twentieth-of that which he was entitled to claim,, and then he did n o t p ress f or payment i n =My cases tilt 18 months after -it was due. The Clergy did MA deserve the outcry which was raised against them. Selfish reps gious and political motives united to produce it, but he was confident that if the tithes were taken off, no relief would be afforded to the people, as the amount so taken off would go into the pocket of the Landlord in the shape of increased ren tal. He for one would never acquiesce in any measure which might be proposed w i t h out t h e concurrence of the Clergy, which went to trench on the rights of the Church. • Mr. S. RICE explained. Captain O'GRADY thought the tithes had become a great evil with respect to which something ought to be dohe. Ile, for one, should oppose any measure that went to give the Clergy a larger income than they now enjoyed, as in his judgment they already rec e i ve d too muc h . He dwelt e.t some length on the evils which oppressed Ireland, and which he con sidered the Offspring of the tythe ,system: He had seen no plan of commutation with which he entirely concurred, and he therefore - thought it desirable to amend the present system where they could. He thought some changes necessa r y i n th e Ecclesiastical Courts of Ireland, and suggested several altera tiOns which he thought would be improvements. These adopted, and the tythe system generally ameliorated, he was satisfied that those disturbances which at present afflicted Ife land would be heard of no more. He trusted the House would, ere long, adopt some decisive measures to accomplish these objects. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose merely to recall the attention of the Houie to the question actually before them, which was this, whether or not-they would suffer his H o n. Friend to bring in th e Bill w hi c h he wished to introduce. His Hon. Friend ; in moving for leave to bring if in, had explained the principles of the measure which he desired to offer to the House, and in a-manner which he thought must be satisfactory. The present =Merit, he, however ' subinitted, was not the pro- per time to go into an ext e nd e d debate on the merits of the plan. #e shoidd be sorry to say any thing' that might introduce a party spirit into this discussion, and .he was unwilling even to pledge himself to the detail's of the - 'measure 'at this shape of the proceeding. When, however,: the fate of tithes in other countries was referred to, he must say he hoped this would be a warning to them to guard- against the sacred principle of pro perty in this being invaded by that revolutionary spirit,which had prevailed _elsewhere. He thought the evils hitherto tom- ' plained of would be greatly diminished, if not wholly removed, by an arrangement for twenty-one years, with respect to tithes, which could be effected under this Bill. His Right Hon. Friendliad proved at the outset, by the course which he had pursued, that he had pursued a statesmanlike view of the whole subject. He was willing to consider of any species of permis sive or compulsory commutation that might be suggested. lie deprecated the giving of hasty pledges, wished the subject to be approached with the caution' due to its gravity and import ance, and hoped the House would keep the whole question open for future consideration. He, however, thought too much was not asked when his Hon. Friend solicited permission to bring in a better Bill than that which the Hon. Baronet had offered to the House three Sessions ago. Sir H. PARNELL explained. Mr. HUTCHINSON was disposed to give Ministers leave to bring in this Bill, not thereby committing himself to their measures nor to the opinion of his Hon. Friend near him, that some commutation must be effected, h utcons id er i ng that giving his vote in favour of bringing in the Bill, lie bound the Govern ment to take into consideration the situation of Ireland. - He begged to remind the Noble Lord, that in the debates which had taken place on the Union, Mr. Pitt had stated the Tithes' system of Ireland to be one of the most trying evils under which that country groaned. An Hon. MEMBER was of opinion, that till some fair system of commute tion should be adopted, there would be no perma nent tranquillity in Ireland., .Mr. DALY thought it would not be courteous to divide the House then, but he would oppose the Bill now to be-introdu ced,' in every future stage. Sir. N. COLTHURST was of opinion, for the security of the . country, and for the security of the rights of the Clergy, that a commutation of tithes was necessary. He was sorry to say he could not attach great value to the present Bill. He did not think that it would accomplish the - object in view. - Col. SKEFFINGTON spoke in support of the Bill. Mr. O'GRADY did the same.• Mr. It. MARTIN said he :should vote for the: Bill in all its LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF KING'S BENCH, JUNE 13. CRIMINAL. INFORMATION. Mr. Serjeant VAUGHAN zioved for a rule to shew cause why a criminal information should not he filed against a Magistrate of the county of Nottingham ; for corruptly convicting a person under the late statute of.l Geo. IV., passed for - the purpose cif summarily punishing. offenders gtilty of malicious trespasses or injuries to real property; &c. The offence of which the person in question was convicted, and for which - he Was fined, was in levelling a bank, erected as was alleged, in obstruction of a public highway, and it was suggested that the convicting Magistrate had himself used the' way in question, and knew that it was dedicated to the public. Such an offence, it was contended, was not within the Act. The affidavits, however, did not disclose _all the circumstances under which the convic tion took place, and therefore ' The COURT said . that, unless it distinctly appeared that the Magistrate acted from a corrupt motive, they ought not to in terfere in this extraordinary manner. If it could be proved that he had acted corruptly, he might be indicted; but upon affidavits so defective, they were not bound to assume a corrupt motive.--Rule refused. MR. MURRAY. IN THE MATTER OF DE WOLF AND ANOTHER. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL spewed cause against a rule ob. tained last term by Mr. Rotch, calling on Mr. Charles Mur ray to shew cause why he should not deliver a bill of costs and disbursements, and pay into Court such balance of money in his hands as should be found due to persons named De Wolf, for whom, and other American citiiens, he had bi‘en retained some years since, as agent in conducting an appeal suit in the Admiralty Court here, against a condemnation in the 'Rite- Admiralty Court, at liarbadoes, touching a cargo of slaves, in which the parties before mentioned were interested. At the suggestion of the .Court, it was agreed to refcj matters in difference to Mr. Alderson, it being thought ,that that was the better - mode 'of adjusiing all the rights OtAie parties, and the case was referred accordingly. - • HIGH COURT OF ADMIRALTY, .JUNE 11: THE JULIANA: We have already reported the fonnerproceediigs in thqease. A question was reserved, as to whether the seamen were 'en titled to wAges for such part_ of the - Juliana', voyage as, by reason of her loss, was not performed. It -was argued that no freight having been earned, no wages were payable, freight be ing the mother of wages. Dr. JEN/7ER and Dr. LtiSurNwroar this rriorrtirig declared that they hdd not been able to . find any . cases that bore on, the present question. , . , . Lord STovvrt.t. thought-this- a verv.clear case. The patty was entitled to his wages for the whjle of the thne.up to`the voyagn from Calcutta. If the ship was lost in the course of this latter voyage, it was clear that the owners gained nothing.— Whether they had secured themselves by insurance or other wise, did not appear : but here the owners and nuisiners..Were joint suffered—it was a common calamity. The Court.had ho doubt that the mariners themselves contributed nothing tO that ca lamity ; but as the contract entered into between the seamen and owners ran thus, " so much per month," that must be the rule by which this question was to be decided. It seemed that, though the Jrdiana did not carry a cargo aboard, to. Batavia, yet she went to Batavia, and took a cargo from thence. This was in the course of her long voyage. The seamen found em ployment in the voyage to Calcutta, and fteight was earned at every place but at Batavia. It would be putting the matter on tne most inconvenient footing if any stipulations of the kind which had been pleaded r t this case, were .to be in corporated into the mariner's contract. This would na turally give rise to -many misrepresentations. The parties (the sailors) might know nothing about" them; the contract might assume quite a different f orm f rom any t hin g w hi ch ' they had an idea of; or it might be matter of previous agreement between the freighter and freightce. The- sailor in this ease had earned his wages fairly enough ; but under such a co nt ract he would have - no means - of defending- himself. The- Court, therefore, having already admitted that the owner was entitled to freight roll the last voyage, had no hesitation i n sa yi ng; . that the sailor was entitled UP to that dine. . • The COURT afterwards observed, That it was at'a loss to ac count for the misapprehension which seemed to have got into the 'books of reports, to the effect that a different rule prevailed in these cases in the Admiralty Court from whit obtained at common law. The three cases mentioned by East (tile one de cided by Lord Holt, another which went up to the, Lords, and a third which was heard in Chancery) were all decided en pin eiplesperfectly in unison with each other. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT: IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO PERSONS TIMER:FE TO INSOLVENTS IN CUSTODY. The CHIEF Commrssio - srn expressed himsclf , as follows: ---" When an Insolvent files his schedule in this Court, gte creditors inspect it, and finding some good debts due to Ole estate, go away satisfied, and do not oppos e hi s di sc harge. rp the interim between such inspection and the day of hearing, the debts are collected without any appliCation to the Cqutt to, i)o so, and innocent parties are induced to pay mor:ey in their own wrong. Let it be made as publicly known as posible, both for the information of the public, to whom it is in im 'portant matter, as well as for the sake of • the dignity of the Court, that on the next recurrence of a sirni/a: case, the orde r for hearing will be dismissed, and the offender remanded to custody.' SUMMER ASSIZES. Yesterday morning the Judges assembled in the, Private Chamber, at the Court of Ding's Bench, Guildhall, Wcstn-firi ster, for the purpose of choosin g th e i r Ci rcu i ts at the ensuing Summer Assizes, when the following arrapsernents ,were made, viz.:— ! HOME CIRCUIT.—The Baron, and Sir.T. Allan Park. -.. NORTHERN CIRCUIT.—Lard Chief Justice Abbott ar.4 gir J. Bayley. MIDLAND CIRCUIT.—Mr. Baron Graiiam, and ,Sir CI. - S. Holroyd. • • WEsTERN CIRCUIT.—Sir J. Richardson and Sir roughs. • • NORFOLK CIRCUIT.—Sir Dallas a`ri'd Sir D. - Rep. OXFORD CIRCUIT.-111r..Baroti- Oa:row, 40 Mr!'et-Fe4,rat HulloCkis spoken of in the•robm'of Mr. Biatiti Wood. '.-