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Extract of the Minutes of Council : HE Dissertations on Homer—Essays on the „ , Greek Language—and Poems on the Fall of Constanti. .. ° P' - -having been referred to a Committee, and reported u p o n;—the decision of the several Prizes was postpbned until , e 23d of March 1323, the Authors being at liberty to with 'ltaly their Compositions for the purpose of any alterations they l ay think p ro p er . The competition is still Open to candidates f m or the Premiums, which are as follow . 1. The King's Premium of One Hundred Guineas, 'Or the best Dissertation on the Age of Homer :—his Writings and Genius; and on the State of Religion, Society, Leain - ing, and the Arts, during that period, collected from the Iv things of Homer. 11. The Society's Premium of Fifty Guineas, Por the best Essay on the History of the Greek Language ; -FOraprehending the present Language of Greece, especially in the lonian Islands ; and the Differences between Ancient and Modern Greek. 111. The Society's Premium of Fifty Guineas, Por the best Poem on the Fall of Constantinople, in the Fif teenth Century. h To be addressed to Mr. T. sellersv Secretary, at 14'"srs. Hatchard and Sons, 800 Piccadilly (with the tt ,4 1 :: ? o o f the Writer, in a sealed cover, inscribed with a Motto, b ndmg with the Motto prefixed to the Composition), on *ere the 23d of March 1823. tt b A * -_ The Dissertations, &c. already scut in, may be had as ,f tr - te, on giving the Signature or Motto of the paper applied Council Room, Thursday, July 4, 1822. AMICABLE SOCIETY'S OFFICE, Ili • Serjeant's Inn, Fleet Street, 10th July, 182 2 . 'RE DIRECTORS of the CORPORATION 4 , 1 of the AMICABLE SOCIETY, for a Perpetual Assur e." 011 ice, do hereby give nbtice, that Attendance will be at the Society's House, in Serjeant's Inn, Fleet-Street, I n ... V EDNESDAYS, the 17th, 24th, and 31st day of July , re„ Et, • ; and Wednesday, the 7th day of August next, from ' l , o'Clock in the Forenoon, until Twelve at Noon, on s t ," of the said days;, and on the last Wednesday of every !equenE t month, from leven till Twelve o'Clock, to pay 10 141 s wising by deaths of Members T of the' said Society p a ljear ending at Lady-day, 1822, (old stile), when will be or ' A tO the resective Nominees, Executors, Administrators, Ti.""signs of such Members, the Sum of Two Hundred and r ........,_ ,4 e cet P iv o e ntlt e E s. ight\Shillings for each Share insured on their J. PENSAM, Registrar. To T. TAYLOR, Esq. No. 9, New Bridge-street, London. HO:,;:ou aen SIR, BEG leave to inform you that ever since the wh i ,,,Year 1790, I had been afflicted with the Lues Vene . re . al, `", from its obstinately resisting every course of medicine 'th, es eribed by the most eminent of the faculty here, and un ejgging severalsevere courses of salivation, and twice dis t) 4ged from the Hospital with little relief, would appear to C °f toe most inveterate nature. In the spring of last year o Tex see had got to such a head, as nearly to put.a period ;41/'existence—l had a large ulcer on the crown of my head, . ° „!,.,•'1 each arm, and my legs were broke out in a frightful at ; - ray right was dreadfully painful, and had been in a t ti l a , of ulceration for the last seven years ; left had also 4 1 l arge nodes on it, was very much discoloured, and gave e such excruciating pain, particularly when warm ill bed, Ras nearly to deprive me of rest ; in this lamentable state, I gr s,leeommended by Mr. J. Thompson, (who received so 4,7_ t , a cure by them here), to take your Leake's Patent Pills, / 'sal I began to do on the 26th o, May ; in the course of a ort n i ght I began to receive henetit—in little more than a . 8 ;;' 1111 1 the ulcers on my beadand arms were soundly healed— e(:ll a tter, the sores on my legs healed also ; leaving, how -4,,(r,, c onsiderable discolouration in the skin, and pain in the of the left, which„ by the blessing of God, aut.l a little thJ.rlger perseverance in lourinvaluable Medicine, subsided; e nodes dispersing, the skin regaining its natural hue, and r. nocturnal pains gradually--going off.—l thus became; by lr liberal advice and medicine, .perfectly free from all my st)trTher coreplaints—have recovered my former spirits a nd eti ni: th, and an, become o ° tie and fat, in which state having 11 . ,TIned many months, to the astonishment of all who knew I am at a loss in what terms to express my gratitude, but A ils Tau, for the * . ood of other suffering mortals, te make 4i _ lB fly case as public as possible, as I shall on every-caeca ; in so doing you will greatly oblige, • Sir, your grateful, obedient, very humble servant. SNe ALEX. MUKKER an s Close, High-street, Edinburgh. Joh n TbnraipsoWn, No itnesses te the above Cure:— . . 3, New Poultry Market, Edinburgh, John Nl ( lntosli, Ohl Assembly Close, Edinburgh. I.6ASpared an d sold by the sole Proprietor, THOMAS TAY hot's Member of the Royal College of Surgeoni, at his ce vista ' . _ No. 9, New Bridge-street, London; whete, after . a ,111...,vot_residence of more than,4o years, in a practice parti -144. ihrected to the cure of Venereal Complaints and those lecre e lital .to the P arts of Generation, with that i nv i ola b le tech cases, whleti men o f hi s profession should always o b serve i n rrat eses, he flatters himself the advice and assistance h . e te-est: " " l Y administers to persons taking this Medicine, will 41ta itt t h n l ied ' by a discerning Public, as an advantage seldom liyt Alsc a ) . e, and void of all ambiguity. B ° l d by his ap oi t t for the convenience of those t 13._1 borough's, No. 7, ()._e bridge, Ediohnfgh ; at a dist. "en Oxford-street; t t• M r. dike, at the Toyshop, No. 103, m -s ree , Fish-street-hill; Mr. axter, Mi. CallWel.'s, Dublin Band of Ireland,p in every considerable toivn in Great Britain and I bill ' o xes 3 f cinly 2s. 9d. each, staraped, and sealed up se an d plain directions, whereby persons, of either r thl3 cure. thvmsel vts w i th ea le, rpced, secrecy, and safety.. At a quartcr to four o'clock, the LORD CHANCELLOR, the Earl Of SHAFTESBURY, and Lord REDESDALE, appeared as his Majesty's Commissioners, and brought the Royal Assent to the following Bills The Corn Importation Bill, the Five per Cents. Repayment Bill, the Irish Land Revenue Bill, the Scotch Register Offices Bill, theWestmoreland County Rates Bill, and three private Bills. Sir JAMES GRAHAM and others brought up from the Com mons the London Bridge Waterworks Bill, and the Scotch Spirits Drawbacks Bill, which were read a first time, and messages announcing that the Commons had agreed to the County Rates Bill, and to the Bankrupts Joint Commission Bill. arket , 1139 2ss Od, —s 0 0 —s Od —5 - 0d 3CS Ua sod 2,2 s od --s od Od i;r10 , 145 04 . 1 4 5 Oa — 5 --a oa Oath 56 9 k 79 ! El 3 ' V 9 a ippoL" s bee° ; nea rl° st sUP tone' I pd )cl a 3d gd 3 Q 4 .--5 oar , *.; 1405 )3 ; A3t • r ; 3/ Od' anst r roo ti 91 er saeku i wiie:''' 1e," 4 13 0 er 5 9`l 0( 1 Og a o P 45, si' 34 beee. o l , aar e oi le l e t i t lt 15 {0 5 Ile re wer! e : P 4 a per t 501' Fri' heti' 0 65 - it ill ore t i 5 0 „ a t° o ts 3 ;it n' for .030 HE COMMISSIONERS for VICTUAL LING His MAJESTY'S SA VY do hereby give "V° lice, that on Tuesday, the 23d inst., they will be ready to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat with 44, 4 Persons as. will undertake for Twelve Months certain, from the let September next, and further, until Three Months notice, to perform all the PAVING necessary to be done for the repair of the Pavement in the Victualling Premises at b ePtford. • d leo, for the same period, to perform such CARTAGE \VP RK as may be required for the Service of Deptford Yard, "'td for the same period to take away all the small Coal that 4A all be made in the Bakehouses at that place. The Conditions of the Contracts may be seen at this Office. Nor regard will be had to any Tender in which the Price th ltt not be inserted in Words at length, or that shall not be delivered to the Board before One o'clock on the said Tues -49, the 23d Instant; nor unless the Person who makes t he Tender, or some Person on his behalf, attends, to answer w hen called for. by . 47 ach Tender must be accompanied by a Letter signed two responsible Persons, engaging to become bound with the Party tendering, in Me penal7Sum• of 5001., for Me due Performance of the Paving Contract, and of 1001. for each ° f the other Contracts. M. 'FALLER CLIFTON. EAST INDIA HOUSE, July 13, 1822 ' I III E COURT of DIRECTORS of the UNITED COMPANY of MERCHANTS of ENG -I.'AND TRADING to the EAST INDIES, do hereby give Notice, _That with reference to the 4th Section of the Ist Chapter of pe said Company's Bye Laws, a GENERAL COURT will be Zhi at their House in Leadenhall-street, on WEDNESDAY E3 CT; the 17th Instant, at Eleven o'CloCk in the Fore- Ton, for the purpose of laying before the Proprietors a r aft of a proposed Bill now before Parliament, entitled East Company's Loan Bill forcarrying into execution an reetnent between His Majesty and the East India JOSEPH DART, Secretary. GREEK HOSTAGES. Earl GROSVENOR seeing a Noble Earl in his place (the Earl of Liverpool), wished to know whether he would have any objection to an Address being moved to his Majesty, requesting that he would order copies or extracts of dispatches, received from the British Ambassador at Constantinople, rela tive to the execution of the Greek hostages in that city, to be laid before the House ? . . The Earl of LIVERPOOL conceived that the motion was of too much importance pot to require some previous notice. Earl GROSVENOR 'then . was understood to say, that It, should move such an Address on Wednesday next. The Loan Bill, the Charge of Pensions' Bill, and the Excise Licenses' Bill, were read a third time and passed. TRADE WITH SOUTH AMERICA. _ _ The Marquis of LANSDOWNE had been prevented by the illness of the Noble Earl opposite, from putting to him the questions of which he had given notice, respecting the relations now existing between this Country and the independent States of South America. What had since occurred had shown him that it was important for the interests of trade that he should obtain some information on the subject. Their Lordships must know, that a British vessel engaged in carrying on trade between one of the independent South American States and our Colonies' had been captured by a Spanish ship, carried to a Spanish colony, and there condemned under the laws of Old Spain. It was, therefore, important to know whether his Ma jesty's Government intended to do that which the whole world would approve, namely, to recognise openly the independence of those States, or whether the relations which existed with them were such as to induce it, without such a recognition, to give protection to British vessels engaged in that Luna fide trade, which was already highly beneficial, and was likely to become still more so to this country. If any reasons existed to prevent a direct recognition of the independence of these States, there could be none after the abandonment of all claims by the Government of Old Spain, and the transfer of the Spanish vessels to the Independents by a regular convention, to with hold from vessels engaged in that trade the same . protection, which would be granted to them if they were trading with an other power. Earl LIVERPOOL stated, that when it had been heard that the British ship, the Lord Collivwood,thad been captured by a Spanish vessel, under the pretence of its having violated the blockade, no time had been lost in demanding information from the Spanish Government on the subject. Undoubtedly had a blockade been declared, it ought to have been observed, but in the present case no notification whatever of the exist ence of a blockade . , had been received. The answer given was, that the Spanish Government had received no informa tion whatever on the subject from South America, or from any part of its own Colonies, but that inquiry should be made.— Matters rested there till a copy of the Decree, ordering the condemnation of the vessel, arrived. The first step then to be taken was to ascertain the ground on which the con demnation was founded, and this appeared to be, not a charge of violated blockade, or any informality in its papers, but au assumption ofpiratical conduct on the part of the Captain of the ship. No time was then lost in sending po.. sitive instructions to the British Minister in Spain, to demand that -justice should be done, and that reparation should be made to the owners of the 'vessel. With respect to the rela tions existing between this country and the South American States, ever since the beginning of the contest in 1808 or 1809, England had enjoyed the benefit of a free trade with South America. Explanations had taken place 'on this subject between the English and Spanish Governments, both during and after the war, and our mediation had seve ral times been fruitlessly offered. In all the communi cations which had passed between the two Governments it had been always clearly understood, that the trade between this country and the Spanish Colonies should not be interrupt ed, and that in any part where Spain might regain the supreme command, the most complete protection should be granted to British property, and the ancient Spanish colonial system should not be resumed without giving us proper notice. In consequence of the present situation of South America, an important alteration had been made in our system towards the States of, that country. Hitherto the trade with them could only be carried on in British ships ; but by a clause inserted in the Act lately passed for amending our Navigation Laws, that trade might now be carried on in South American as well as in English vessels, and the result was, that the inter course with those countries was now as lawful an intercourse as that carried on with any other country. This was the state in which our trade with South America at present stood, and he admitted that it was the duty of his Majesty's Go vernment to_see that its benefits should be duly enjoyed. As to any farther recognition of the independence of the South American States, it was a question of great importance, in which it was proper that his Majesty's Government should exercise its discretion according to circumstances. It would not be suited to the dignity and honour of this country to take such a step without any communication with the Government of Spain, and whatever negociations might now be carried on with that Government, they were not in such a state as to autho rise him to make any communication on the subject to the House. • The Larquis of LANSDOWNE had hoped that if his Ma jesty's Ministers did not think . themselves justified in openly recognising at once the independence of the South American States, they would at least have engaged in the preliminary steps necessary . to bring about such a recognition. But al though an admissio. that effect would have been more gra tifying to him, he was glad to learn that our trade with South America was under the same protection as that with other countries, and that in the case to which he had alluded, the owners of the captured vessel were likely to obtain redress.— He should submit to the Noble Earl whether it would not be expedient that a copy of the communications and remonstrances which had taken place on that subject should be laid on their Lordships' table ? Earl LIVERPOOL said, that a strong remonstrance had undoubtedly been made to the Spanish Government, but was understood to object to its production at present, as the commu nications had hitherto lea to no result, and the knowledge of the fact that such a remonstrance had been wade, would be suf ficient to satisfy the public. With respect to the opening of negociations with the Spanish Government, to attain its consent to the recognition of the South American Independence ' he had not wished the Noble Marquis to understand that suchnegoci ations had not been opened, but that the result of the commu. nications made was not in that state that would enable him to lay it on their Lordships' table. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would not press for the production of those communications, but would reserve to him• self the right of asking some time hence what had been the result. SCOTCH JURIES. The Earl of LAUDERDALE postponed the Corninittee on the Scotch Jury Bill until Wednesday next. ALEHOUSES' LICENCES. On the motion of Lord AUCKLAND the House resolved it. self into a Committee on the Alehouses Licences Bill. - - Earl BATHURST opposed the clatioe which tended to pre vent Magistrates from depriving publieans ottheir licences un less a regular complaint had been made before them, and had been tried at the Quarter Sessions. His Lordshipiwas nnder •stood to object to the difficulties thus thrown upon the informer, and to the addition which would thus be made to the business of the Quarter Sessions. Lord AUCKLAND defended the clause, which was loit on a division ; the numbers being— Contents - - 7 Non-Contents - - 16 Majority against the Clause —.9 The other clauses were then agreed to ; and the House hav ing resumed, the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The Court Fees Bill went through a Committee, and was reported. The Annuities Memorials Bill also went through a Com mittee, and the Report was ordered to be received on Wednes day.—A djourned. Mr. LUSHlNGTOSlTire;enTea;Fetition from the Pub licans of Canterbury against the Beer Itill.—Ordered to lie on the table and be printed. Sir MASTERTON LIRE presented similar Petitions from Weymouth and Dorchester.—Ordered to be printed, Mr. MANNING presented similar Petitions from the Li censed Victuallers of Sandwich and Deal in Kent.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. BUTTERWORTH presented* similar Petitions from Cheltenham, Ho&lngham, and Reading.—Ordered to be printed. Similar Petitions were also presented from - Manchester, Ashby-under-Line, and several places in Lancashire, Twick enham, Hammersmith, Margate; Ramsgate, Sittingbourne, various places in Suffolk, Hertford, Ely, Rochester, Dartford, and Yarmouth.—Read and ordered to lie on the table, and be' printed. The Charge of Loan Bill and the East India Company's Loan Bill were read a second time, and ordered to be corn-. mitted' to-morrow. The House went into a Committee on the Greenland Fishery Act.—The several Amendments 'were" - rtigreed to and the Re port ordered to be received to-morrow. EAST INDIA SUGAR ACT. The House agreed to several Resolutions in Committee on the subject of this Act, the Report of which was ordered to be received to-morrow. Mr. LENNARD presented a Petition from certain inhabi tant Householders of Middlesex, complaining of abuses in the County Court. Ordered to be printed. The London-Bridge Water Works Bill was read a third time and passed. The House went into a Committee on the General Turnpike Road Bill. Report to be received to-morrow: SMUGGLING LAWS. Mr. J. BENETT presented a Petition fforn certain per sons, in prison for the offence of smuggling, having been taken in the capture of the Suiannah, by the Ranger revenue cutter, complaining of the severity of the, Navigation Laws, praying that thy may be mitigated so as . to be' more con sonant with the laws of nations and the rights and liberties of Englishmen. The Petitioners stated that they were sailing within fifty miles of the Dutch coast, under Dutch colours, when the Ranger fired upon them, and killed one man and wounded another, in execution of a right of search. They stated also, that they had only Offended against some technica lities in the law. The Petition was read, and on the question that it be printed, Dr. LUSHINOTON expressed his surprise that this sub ject was allowed to pass in silence by the other side. He had no hesitation in saying, that these individuals, if now in prison, were unlawfully so, and if any Statute contained provisions authorising their detention, it was contrary to the rights of na tions, and the spirit of the British ConAtitution, and therefore null and void. In pursuance of what was called a right of search, this foreign vessel, within fifty miles of the Dutch coast, in time .of peace, had been treated precisely as though under the circumstances, jiagrantc kilo. And if this were to be per mitted, he asked, where would be the security for British merchantmen from similar treatment at the hands of foreign nations ? The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that not having heard of this case before, he could give no information respect ing it. He had no doubt, however, that it would be found that there were circumstances to justify the imprisonment of the men ; but he begged to suggest that there were other ways of obtaining justice, were it not so, than by applying to Paths ment. The fact of British vessels assuming foreign flags, did not except them from the operation of the laws. ' THE LORD COLLINGWOOD. In answer to a question from Mr. BEN NE:, The Marquis of LONDONDERR Y said, that from the inquiries he had, made relative to the reported detention of the British vessA,. the Lord Colling wood, by a Spanish privateer, iti January last, in consequence of the blockade of Buenos Apes, it appeared that it was not in any shape connected with the Spanish colonial laws, as had been stated in that House. He had written immediately to the Spanish Ambassador, who was totally ignorant of the circumstance, and Was not aware of the existence of any privateer of the name that had been stated, nor did he know any. think of the blockade. He, re ceived the same answer from the Board of Trade, and the mat ter was now in course of investigation by our Minister at Ma drid, as well on the part of this Government as on the part of the Spanish Ambassailor here. He assured the Hon. Member that the utmost attention was paid to the British commercial interests in this particular, and that no violation of rights of the nature alluded to would be suffered to pass unnoticed. At the same time he might observe, that a distinct notification had been made some time back that this country could not acquiesce in the colonial laws of Spain.—( Hear !) Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH considered the explanation of the Noble Marquis as of a most gratifying nature; for it was certainly most necessary to the well-being of our Commer cial interests that they should know that they will be protected against lawless invasion and interruption. It was of great im portanee to their security,. that in Commercial Laws, right should be merely incident to possession. THE GREEKS. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH said, he- rose to present a Petition, which, though signed by few names, and of a novel description, was entitled to the attention of the House, and particularly of the Noble Marquis at the head of the Foreign Department. The Petition was from some individuals at Macclesfield, and couched in warm, but as regarded the House, respectful language, in reference to the sufferings of the Greeks.—(Hear!)—lt was in language of that kind in which the feelings of mankind were usually expressed relative to such transactions, and he was satisfied that the sentiments were such as pervaded all classes of persons in his. Majesty's dominions, and would be more generally expressed, wereit not for the diffi culty that existed of pointing out any praCtical effect to which it might lead.—(Heai !)—The tientiments he willingly avowed were his own, and although he could not but see that any in terruption at present of the general tranquillity of Europe, would be a most unspeakable calamity to this country ; yet he thought that a simultaneous effort of all the Governments of Europe in favour of that oppressed nation, could not but ))e effectual. What probability there might be of obtaining such a cam bination of the Governments of Europe for so excellent an object, he must leave those who were better acquainted with them to say ; but he would venture to assert, that a failure in such a cause would be honourable to any Government who should make the attempt.—(Hear, hear !)—Such an attempt would be worthy of the Government of such a nation as this, and it would be in the spirit of the ancient policy of this country towards oppressed nations. Territorial security was the only security that could be thought of for the Greeks ; for even the despotic sway of the Turkish Divan would be unable to .secure from its barbarian subjects the observance of any sti pulated safety. The only way, then, was to give the Greeks possession of their territory, with a guarantee from all the Powers of Europe, without being affixed to the interests of any one.—( Hear. hear !) The Petition having been read, Mr. HUME asked if it was true that refuge had been re fused the flying Greeks in the lonian Islands, seeking shelter from their murderers ? He had received information to that effect, from good authority ; but notwithstanding he had said, and still thought, that the acts of the individual at the head of those islands were contrary to the spirit of the British Consti tution, and notwithstanding all he had said of him, he amid not believe that he could have issued an order so contra"' to the principles of humanity. He had also heard that morning of some individual, connected with the naval service of this country, having gone out to assist the Turkish fleets. He hoped this was not true, for it certainly was incumbent upon his Majesty's Government to observe as strict vigilance in this respect with reference to the oppressors, as they did .towards the insurgents. Mr. WILMOT said, he was utterly unaware of any measure having . been taken by the Lord High Commissioner to repulse the flying Greeks from the lonian Islands. There were acts against their permanent residence, but he -did not suppose these would be put in force in such a case. He certainly had received no information up to that morning, to countenance the sup Position that the Lord High Commissioner had issued any orders contrary to the principles of humanity. With refer ence to the latter allusion in the speech of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, he could only say, in the absence of others more competent, that there was an order of the Admiralty against any thing of the kind which the Hon. Gentleman had stated to have occurred. Mr. C. - HUTCHINSON could not permit this oppOrtunity to pass without expressing his horror at the conduct of his Ma-. jesty's Government in not affording more protection to the Greeks. He . considered war in the preSent state of this coun try as - the greatest calamity that could befal it except a peace upon dishonourable terms, such as no great empire could long exist under with the Maintenance of character. He gave great credit to . his Majesty's Government for their exertions at Con stantinople to maintain peace betwixt Russia and Turkey. But if the object of these exertions were havoc on the one side, with impunity to the other e hi proclaimed it conduendiegraceful and. antischristian. He called upon his Majesty's Ministers to de - Clare upon their honour, whether the establishment of peace . between Turkey and Russia left the Greeks open to massacre, or if that hid been specially provided for. If not, he should, say there-was no free spirit in that House; if it prorogued be-. fore obtaining al e marantee in favour of that unfortunate people. He would tell the people of this country, 'suffering as he knew they were, that peace,under such circumstances was a disho nour tathem. He did not expect any thing from Ministers ; he appealed to the people. He held the policy of Ministers ever since the 'peace in abhorrence—they had Leen doing all they could to violate the most sacred principles of right. He appealed, therefore, not to them, but to men, such as the Horiourable Member for Bramber (Mr. Wilberforce) opposite, who Were not lost to every sense of religion and honour. The despots of Europe he knew had succeeded every where but in this country, in crushing the germs of. liberty. Ife was re-•' joiced to see the struggles against tyranny making in Spain and elsewhere ; and he hoped to see the tables' of both Houses . loaded with petitions on this subject, to awake them from their lethargy, and rouse them to exert their influence to check the further effusion of human blooel.2..(fienr !) Mr. WILBERFORCE having been applied to by the Hon, Gentleman, begged to assure kith, that for the cause of the, unhappy Greeks - , it was impossible that any one could feel More warmly than himself.—(Hear !)—lndeed he ShOuld hope that there could be but one feeling among generous and en-' lightened and Christian minds on their behalf. It was, in ' truth; rather a disgrace to all the' powers of Europe, that long ere now they had not made a simultaneous effort, and driven back a nation of barbarians, the ancient and inveterate ene mies of Christianity and freedom, into Asia. He was a: all times far, indeed, from advocating war (more especially where to undertake it was to expose the resources and the welfare of the State to imrninent hazard), unless indeed peace could only be acquired at the price of disgraCe. and infamy. At the same time he must declare that he knew of no case in which the power' of a mighty country like England could be more nobly, more generously, or more justifiably exerted than in rescuing the Greeks from bondage and destruction.—( Hear !) The Marltiis of LONDONDERRY protested against the practice of entering into a discussion of so comprehensive a question upon the occasion of a Petition being presentedee-. He could not avoid, however, remarking on the readiness of the greatest friends of peade in that House, at times to plunge into the bloodiest wars. His Honourable Friend (Mr. Wile berforce) had disclosed to them a problem to drive into Asia the whole population of European Turkey, to the num, ber of four or five millions of infidels. Those who knew something of the character of these barbarians, might perhaps think that they would not be disposed to yield willing obe dience to the mandate of European Sovereigns for their trans portation. After the bloody war they had seen terminated., if such an attempt were made, their prospects of a long peace would, he feared, be found premature. He should not,how ever, allow himself to be led into the-discussion of a question,. which both politically or morally was as large, as any which 'could occu his mind. The House would do injustice to his 'M py ajesty's Ministers, if they supposed that their etibrts at Con stantinople were confined to prevent war between Turkey and Russia.--(llear l)—He could not, 'however, coincide with the Honourable Member's (Mr. Hutchinson) views relative to the Management of the Foreign Department,and , of the politics of Europe. It must not be supposed that the barbarities of the Turks were without parallel or provocation, and that nothing was to be deplored in this war but their atrocities. The Greeks were certainly making efforts to free themselves from that thraldom under which their state could 'not but be that of misery, and in the efforts to mitigate their sufferings by this Government, it was. to be borne in mind, that the Rulers of their enemies, the Turks, enormous as was their depotic power, could not always put in execution what they were will ing to do, through the mass of prejudice 'and passion with which they had to contend. But still the works of ferocity and cruelty which had marked this war on the part of the Greeks, were of the rnostpainful nature. It was not to be supposed that the tide of barbarity flowed only in one direction. elf this country were well enough to embark in a crusade to establish good 'order in that country, she whole power of Europe would not be able to controul the effervescence of the elements of discord that would be excited. Ile called upon Parliamentt6 keep its mind temperate and cool on the question. They had done much for thepeace of the world; and might rely upon it that his Majesty's Government would do all they possibly could to preserve the general tranquillity with the security of the Greeks (Hear, hear'!) —=although they were not sanguine in their expec- - tations•of accomplishing the banishment of the population of European Turkey into the Asiatic:provinces. Sir ROBERT WILSON was convinced that the Greeks, with proper assistance, might establish their emancipation. He (toped, however, that orders would be given to maintain a fair neutrality in the lonian Islands. Lord A. HAMILTON observed, that if he hadrightly un derstood the Noble MarquiS to say, that the whole of the Holy Alliance had not influence enough to procure from the 'Turkish GovernMent the cessation of their atrocities, it followed of course that the war between that power and the Greeks could not stop till the annihilation of One or the other party. What ever the Noble Lord might intend with regard to the lonian islands; he must say that he did not expect that a fair neus trality would. be preserved. Sir R. WILSON asked whether the same respect would be paid to the Greek flag, as had been to the South American ? The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that the regula tions for a rigid neutrality had been made with regard to the lonian islands, and if the Noble Lord :opposite knew of any circumstance of a contrary tendency, he hoped he would men tion it with a view to its being examined. He knew of no in. terference that had taken place ivith regard to the Greek com mercial flag. Neutrality was also observed to armed vessels of both powers. The Petition was then ordered to be printed. _ , ALE AND BEER RETAIL BILL. Mr. BERNAL presented two Petitions against this bill— one from Boston, and the other from Warrington, in Lancashire. Mr. WESTERN rose to present a variety of petitions against the ale and beer bill from the publicans of almost every town in the county of Essex.—(A laugh.)—He must, in the first place, profess himself decidedly favourable to the bill, for the com mittee upon which he should certainly vote. At the same time, he thought that the greatest care and attention should be devoted to its enactments. Mr. BROUGHAM observed, that these Petitions were all from one description of persons—namel', licensed victuallers. 111 r. WESTERN—" And brewers." Mr. BROUGHAM—" Oh ! and the brewers, of course ; no doubt of that.''--(A laugh.)—With respect to these brewers, he had no doubt that their signatures:were signed with their own hands and with their own good will. With respect to the names of the victuallers, he might be allowed to doubt whether their names were signed by their own hands, or even by their own consent. In support of this reasonable doubt, he begged to read a letter from one of the most respectable victuallers in the county, whose name it was not necessary to mention.' It was to this effect—" I have just been waited on by one of the brewers' clerks (the House would observe this was not one of the three great brewers), and very much pressed by him to sign a paper which he presented to me, telling me that it would be much to my benefit," &c. Now, this brewer's clerk left the writer of the letter to conjecture, it seemed, what the purport of the Petition was, for he went on to say, " Now I knew not what the purport of this paper might be, and therefore 1 declined to sign it ; but I understand they have signed my own name to it themselves. We brewers' ° licensed publicans, who are, as 'tis said, their property, are very doubtful that the brewers are forcing their way, by peti. tion, against a bill now depending in one of the Houses of Par liament, which, if carried, -will benefit us and the public very -much." This letter wassubscribed with the sign of the writer's inn, for the sake of identification ; and after this there followed a note in these words :—" We-11:...g . to sign our names to this letter, as under 'brewers, and we are very-anxious that thp mo nopoly of 'beer should be discontinued,in order that the public may be supplied with a better article at a theaper rate." To this note the several subscriptions and signs were affixed. The Hon. and. Learned Gentleman then observed, that no oppor tunity could be more proper for acquainting the Rouse with • the contents of this letter, than the presentation ` off' 61' these petitions. • The several petitions, being all of the same tenour, were,then read : fonrwere :from the publicani of th e county of Essex, • and the others from thoSe of:Billericay, « altham, RuMford, West Hain, - Chelmsford, Dunmow, Cplchester, and 11eptford. Mr. WESTERN then presented aTetition agzkinst the 4i g h. gate Chael Bill ; it was from the_liontired of Hignote, con sisting of - the parishes of Hornsey, Islington, and St. Pancr a s. Mr. .HCME presented a Petition from the Inhabitant Housekeepers of Kensington, Chelsea; and the adjoiniu, disc trict, complaining of the 'inadequacy of th e p resen t County Court for the dispatch of business, and that the fees takenthere Were double those prescribed by the Act of Parliament. Mr. Serjeant ONSLOW presented Petitions from Wands-; worth, Ripley, and Kingston-upon-Thames ; and Mr. WODEHOLTSE another Petition from Bath, against the Publicans' - LicenSing Bill. After a few words from Mr. I3ncitrolmi, these petitions were ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. Sir R. WILSON gave notice, that early in the next Session the Member for •Cumberlrd woUld bring forward the case of Colonel Wood. IRISH CONSTABLES -BILL.. On the motion of Mr. Secretary PEEL, the Report- of the Irish Constables Bill was taken into further consideration, and agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third ,time toj morrow. • : IRISH INSURRECTION ACT. Mr. GOLTLBURN moved the Order of the Day - for reading the Irish Insurrection Bill a third time. Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON, without approving of those e.is orders in Ireland, which no legal man could view but with feelings of deep regret, felt it necessary to explain the mo tives which regulated his conduct. He considered the House to be now in possession of the measures which the Go vernment meant to propose in the present Session of Par liament.--looking at these, he had no hesitation in saying, that enough had not been done for the relief of Ireland. It was now twenty-two years since the Union, which was in: tended to consolidate the interests of the two islands, but the hopes held out to Ireland were not realized. He did not ascribe the famine which now prevailed to the measures of .Ministers; nor did he quarrel with Ministers for not effect ing a commutation of tithes, but what he quarrelled with them for was this, that they had never inquired into the situa: 'on of Ireland till they were compelled to do so by some impendin g calamity. He complained that the promise held out in the King's Speech, at the beginning of the Session, had not been made good. He contended that the Irish man was made of good stuff—was fit to be trusted, and if his good qualities were obscured, it only proved that there was something radicalise wrong in the system of Government-- He dissented from the Secretary of State for the Home Dee partment, and the Noble Marquis, who thought that Ire land had already engaged enough of the attention of: Par liament, and that all had been done that could be done-- Ile eulogised the Marquis of. Wellesley, but maintained that, as a public man, he (Mr. Hutchinson) was bound to oppose his call for the renewal of the Insurrection Act. He was glad that the Act when passed would be committed to humane Magistrates, and to an enlightened Lord Lieutenant, but this was not enough for him. Before he voted for this Bill hd wished to see that more had been accomplished for the relief of Ireland than had hitherto been done. While the present-fear ful distress 'prevailed in Ireland, if the public money could atibrd relief, it was the duty of Parliament not to suffer the peo.: pie of Ireland to come to their bar as mendicants, but to relieve them to the very last shilling. He denied that Ireland had profited.as she ought to have done from her connection-with England. The evils which had oppressed her were in- fact such that it was time the Government should retrace its steps, and that a course the reverse of that which had hitherto been pursued should be taken. Transportation and death were not the means of correcting the evils which existed. These Were not the 'expedients to which a good government would have recoursei they only served to prove the'absence of all Govern ment. He objected to the several provisions of the Insur rection Act,. but one of the greatest objections which he had to it grew out of the insults to which females were exposed under it. He had seen soldiers and others enter a hut'where a whole family reposed in one room ; the women—the grthin-up daughters—the brothers, and the other members of the fainily. Thus circumstanced, respect for decency was still preserved ; but when the soldiers, with a Magistrate, had entered One of these cabins of misery, he himself had seen the females who were its inmates, obliged to quit it, in a state of perfect nudity, that their beds might be searched. The insurrection-act could not be carried into effect without producing such scenes. Re did not wish to withhold from Government the powers which they had a right to claim : but what he declared before such slaw as that now called for was passed, was this—that such an, inquir y should take place, as would (he was convinced such would be die case), make every man in Ireland loyal. He was grates ful for the manner in which the distress in Ireland had been taken up in England, and especially for the manner in which English Members had exerted themselves. What he desired was, that an inquiry into the state of Ireland should - take place—that a Commission of English Gentlemen shotild take the subject in hand. They could not be better employed; and the result would be some measure which would confer imPort ant benefits to Ireland. He did not undervalue the dangers to which the loyal were exposed. He could not vie* the distur bances which had taken place without horror, and was anxious that every means should be used to put them doviri. But he contended the dtity of the Government did not end 'there. They ought to take other measures, and endeavour to get at the root of the evil. This Bill gave the Lord Lieutenant a power - which he ought not to possess . The other measures which the Session had, produced were inefficient. The' Tithes Leasing Bill he thought a very useless measure. He consi dered it objectionable in many respects. But he, notwithstad ing, took it such as it was, a boon, and thanked Ministers,, for in this he recognized a disposition on the part of. Miniete,rs to do something to relieve the distresses of Ireland. He hoped it would be followed up by a measure for commuting the tithes. He felt that he should not have done his duty, had he'riot de: precated the passing of the Bill before the House, before an inquiry had been instituted into the state of. Ireland, with a view of getting at the root of the'evil, and sifting the gnevances complained of to the bottom, in order to guard against their recurrence at some future period. Mr. MONCK thought the present Bill might be necessary to check the evil complained of, but he regretted 'that if would not strike at the root. The cause of the evil he believed `to be the redundant population, which exceeded that of any other part of the. world. While the people of Ireland were con tented with potatoes, instead of being corn-fed like every other people of Europe, he feared the calamities , now, ex perienced would be of frequent recurrence. He was 'sorry that Irish lindlords were not more ,in the habit of lit ng on their estates than they'had been of late years. Anlevil like that now felt in Ireland would be prevented in this, coun: try by the humane interference of the laws. It was herd on this country that, besides maintaining its own poor, it should be called on relieve the suffering population of Ireland. - - But saying this he was far from wishing that this country should abate its exertions to assist the Irish, where a calamity of such magnitude was to be met. The Irish Gentlemen were of opi nion, that in England the subject was not understood. He had read &letter two days ago, which said, " Give us the Insurrec tion Act for the rich, and potatoes for the Poor, and we linVe All we desire." He, however, did not wish the poor to have pots- toes,—he wished them to have corn r eto be fed on bread. He, would not say that the Poor Laws ought to be introduced into Ireland, as at that moment he feared their operatiOn would re duce those who were now considered rich to the level pf the poor. Colonel TRENCH coincided in the view which the lion. Gentleman who had last spoken took of the causes of the dis tress which now prevailed in Ireland, but he thought that this Bill ought to pass as a measure of necessity ; and not only as a measure of necessity but-as one of mercy. The evils Which afflicted Ireland were of two kinds—the qne was capable of being diminished by legislative influence—the 'other was not. , Among the former he considered the state of the magistracy , — the tithes—and the want of education among the poor. The other was the absentees (the number of whom would jedin creased by any effort to diminish them), the high rents, .and the manner in which the poor were neglected by those who ought to protect and inform them. He bore testimony to the natural excellence of the Irish character, and the ineriebrious exertions of the Hibernian Society to diffuse the blessings' Of Christian knowledge, and the light of education, whicii'yere among the most important means of ameliorating the condition of Ireland. One of the most crying evils had scarcely aen alluded to, though the remedy was in the hands of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer. The evil was the Excise Laws, and the remedy would be found by licensing small stills. By such a measure the revenue would not suffer, as in that case the ac