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to will(11 I will not advert, because I cannot with. out pain, or without giving pain. I have the honour to he, &c. &c. &c. REDESDALE. re the Rt. Hon. the Earl of Fingal?, t Sc. &c. &c. LETTER IV. ANSWER BY THE EARL OF FINGALL. MY LOKI), August 27, sBo3. - - - I feel indeed much concern that any part of the Letter I had the honour of addressing•to your Lord ship, sh, , old have given you pain. You need not, I hope, my Lord, any assurance, that nothing could be more foreign to my intentions. This I took the • liberty of requesting Mr. WI CKHAM, whom I had the honour of seeing this morning, to do me the fa vour of mentioning to your Lordship on the earliest occasion. I merely stated to your Lordship what my own feelings were, and what I have always found to be the opinion of the Catholics. I do not appre hend, that in expressing any further wish of the Catholic Body, which it is impossible should not Le entertained, I hinted at any discontents; on the contrary, I did assure, and do now assure your Lordship, we are ready to make every sacrifice, en counter every danger, for the defence of the KING and Constitution, and for the preservation of the peace. Those who are most afFeded by any re maining restrietions, it is well kno•vn have never excited clamour or tumult ; but have always been foremost in opposing them. I cannot attempt to vindicate all those who have at different times ad dressed the Catholics ; but the late exhortations, 1 must beg leave to- say, are intended and calculated to inspire sentiments of loyalty, obedience, and Christian Charity : and they will, I trust, have that efreEt. Such have been the instructions I have constantly heard given by the Catholic Clergy to their flocks. Nothing to excite or dislike to any person on account of his religious belief, but the most retied brotherly love and affection to all. Your Lordship will, I hupe, allow me to repeat my regret that any thing I have written should have given you pain, or me reason to feel it, which I should in a very high degree indeed, if I was con 'scious of having intentionally advanced any thing that would appear improper or unreasonable to your Lordship. -I have the honour to be, &c. FINGALL. To the Right Hon. Lard Redesdale, c. LETTER V FROM THE LORD CHANCELLOR TO THE EARL OF F I NGALL. MY LORD, Ely-place, Dublin, Aug. 28, 1803. TH E high respeEt and esteem I bear for your Lordship, whose loyalty and humanity have been at all times conspicuous, and the manner in which your Lordship, in the Letter with which I was honoured yesterday, has expressed your regret, that any part of your former Letter should have given me pain, compels me again to trouble your Lordship with a few words. The pain I felt, arose from an appre hension that I could not hope far such a change in the sentiments of those of the people of Ireland, who adhere to the See of Rome, towards those who refuse obedience to it, as might lead to their living toge ther in peace. In some parts of Europe, misfortune appears to have produced s() much of humility, that the persons who have occupied the choice of that See; have been inclined to bend towards countries in which some of its most important pretensions have been rejeded ; and' in this state of flumil.ation, it might have been hoped tltat a sense of the weakness and imperfeetions of man might have been so far felt, as to lead the adherents to that See, in Ireland, no longer to teach their followers a doCtrine so re. pugnani (as it appears to me) to the repose of man. kind, as that to which I had alluded in my letter. I concln.te from your Lordship's letters to me, that there no person amongst the adherents of the See of Rome, in Ireland, whose mind, however cultivat. ed, however liberal in other respeets, can be thought to consider any persMs as Christians, who refuse obedience to that Sec. • I conclude also, that the Priests of that persuasion still teach their flocks, that all who refuse obedience, are guilty of a wicked re. hellion against divine authority, which must produce their eternal damnation in the next world, and render them obj-ets of horror and dislike in this. As long as this doctrine (which, with all humility I say it, appears to me to be repugnant to every idea of Chriß;ian charity taught by the Scriptures) shall be p re a c hed to their congregations ; and until those congregationsshall be taught that Protestatets of every description, although in their opinion in error on certain points, are to be considered as members of the Church of Christ, and their brethren in the faith of Christ, it seems to me, that there can be no hope that exhortations to loyalty and obedience to a Pro. tesrant Government will have any. effeet. Men of education and property may feel loyalty and obedience to such a Government to be proper, or at least expe. dient ; but preaching to men of the lower orders, and especially to those without property, loyalty, and obedience, under such circumstances, cannot be sin cere, without supposing their minas of_a refinement of which they are utterly incapable ; and seems therefOre to me to be either mockery or folly. Per haps I am too persurnptuous in forming this opinion, but it seems tome confirmed by recent events, and I cannot otherwise account for the fait so general. ly asserted by the Priests of the Romish Persua sion, that during the late Rebellion, their exhorta tions to loyalty and obedience had no effe6f. I find it also confirmed by the circumstances that those Priests were, I pregame, utterly ignorant that these under their i,,strudions had ever conceived in their minds the horrid purposes which they manifested on the z3d of July, and which person came from all parts of Ireland with design to effect. I have the Honour to be, With much respect, my Lord, Your Lordship's obedient humble Servant, REDESDALE. The Earl of Furs all, &c. &c. E.Jc. LEI'TER VI. ANSWER, BY THE EARL OF FINGALL. MY LORD, Great De/mark-street, Sept. 4, 1803. 1 ;il.4.:st beg Lt)rds:lip will be kind enough to exclue muy ing sooner acknowledged the re. ceipt of the last letter you did me the honour to ad. dress me, which has been occasioned by my absence from town for some days past. Honoured as I must feel by your Lordship's correspondence, and the ex. pressions of personal regard towards me contained in y,,nr Letters, I am the more anxious to impress your Lordship with that favourable opinion of the persons in this country who profess the same religious faith I do myself, which it has been my endeavour to prove to your Lordship they . are deserving of. No thing but my wish to procure for them an object so desirable, and ray high respea for your Lordship, would have induced me to touch at all on a discussion of religious subjeas: and not having been, I fear,for. eunate enough yet to satisfy your Lordship's mind, as to the objedions you make to our religion, I should be glad, with your Lordship's permission, to state them to some of our superior Clergy, who would, I am pretty certain, enable me to convince your Lord. ship, that our religious dbarine preaches charity and brotherly love to all mankind, without distinc. lion of religion ; true and sincere allegiance to our good King ; inviolable attachment to the Constitu. 'ion and our Country ; from an honest and conscien tious conviaion that such is the duty of a good sub jea and a good Catholic, be the religion of the Monarch what it may. For my own part, my Lord, I cannot attribute the unfortunate situation of this Country to any thing connetted with matters of Re ligious Faith : Jacobinism, and French principles and politics, the want of morality, and the depraved state of the human mind, are, I conceive, the sources of our misfortunes; Religion may have been made a tool by wicked and designing people : this has often happened in every country, and is ,easily dialed when religious differences exist. The dis traaed and melancholy state we are in, every body must lament ; how it is to be mended, is a matter for the Statesman ; and surely it would be difficult to find an objea more worthy of your Lordship's high talents and abilities. I have the Honour to be, With the greatest respet, my Lord, Your Lordship's very humble and obedient Servant, FINGALL. To the Right Hon. Lord Retlesdale, &c. &c. &c. LETTER VII. TROM THE RIGHT HON. THE LORD CHANCELLOR TO THE EARL OF FINGALL. MY LORD, Ely Sept 6, 1803. I find myself as little qualified as your Lordship represents yourself to be, to discuss with the persons to whom you refer me the points you mention. I can only say, that the impression made on the minds of those of the lower orders, certainly does not corre spond with the dodrines which your Lordship' re presents to he the doctrines of the religion you profess. I have no doubt that your Lordship heartily and con scientiously embraces and ads upon those doctrines ; the whole tenor of your life shews that you have done so : but the whole tenor of the conduct of the lower orders of the people of the Romish persuasion shews, that such dodrines are not effeequally taught to them; and if I am to judge from the writings, as well as the conduit, of some of the higher orders of the Laity as well as of the Clergy, I cannot believe that they are thoroughly impressed with the feelings which appear to guide your Lordship's liberal arid beneficent mind. Oreelie contrary, in many instances it appears 'o me, that :he conduit of some high amongst the Priesthood, is calculated to excite in the minis of those under their care, hatred to their Protestant fellow-subjeds, and disloyalty to their Government. lam assured, from very high and very respedable authority, that (at least in one distrid) the Priests who were instru mental in saving the lives of the loyalists in the late Rebellion, are universally di-countenanced by their Superior* : and that a Priest proved to have been guilty of sandioning the murderers in 1798, trans ported to Botany Bay, and since pardoned by the mercy of Government, has beets brought back in triumph by the same Superior, to what in defiance of the law he calls HIS parish, and there placed as a martyr, in a manner the most iusulting to the feel. ings of the Protestants; vete!! justice of the coun. try ; and to that Government, to whose lenity he owes his redemption from the punishment due to his crimes f. It is strongly reported, that the successor to Dr. HUSSEY (whose disaffedion was so manifest, that perhaps Government consulted its disposition to le nity much more than its duty, when it permitted him to re urn to Ireland) is to be a man also notoriously disaffected. If the appointment is to be made in the usual manner, at the recommendation of the higher order of your Clergy, I cannot think that much of loyalty is to be expeded from those who recommend ed such a mans.• If the authority of the See of Rome supersedes the ordinary recommendation, it must be recollected that that authority is now in the hands of France ; indeed it cannot be forgotten, that your whole Priesthood acknowledge obedience to one who is the vassal of France, who exists as a temporal Prince at least only by the permission of France, the avowed enemy of the Government under which we live : under such circumstances, it cannot he be lieved, that any honest and conscientious means have been or will be taken by the Priests of the Romish persuasion to make the lower orders of the people, composing their congregations, loyal Subjects of the Protestant Government of this Country. I have the Honour to be, with the sincerest re. sped and esteem, My Lord, Your Lordship's most obedient And humble Servant, REDESDALE. [1 To the Earl of Fingall ) &c. &c. * In the District alluded to, the " Superior" seleCted for his Vicar Cenral (the highest situation in his power to be stow), a Clergyman, who, in she year i 798, had been hap pily instrumental in saving the lite of a respectable Gentlg man, by putting him on his guard against an assassin. - t Vide Narrative of the Priest here intimated, and which is printed at the close of this Correspondence. t The successor to Dr. II Ussitlr is not yet named, and it was impossible that the Noble Writer could have accurate information on the subjeCt. 'lite recommendation to Rome is in the Bishops of the Province; of whom one is Dr. Moy- N, aid another Dr. COPPINGER; both have eminently dis'inguished themselve , by their personal attachment to the British Government, and by their pathetic and nervous ex hortations addressed tci tneir Clergy, for the purposes of ex eitir„, and maintaining loyalty and good conduct in their re spective Distriels. It This Letter was not a- swer Rut after some interval the Corrispondetice recommenced, and four Letters were iii t,rch7loged ; but as the latter have not got into circulati ., n, tit:: same motives do no exist foi . their publication, as for t Wit now laid before the Public. ( IIVIP ER ML PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF PEERS. MONDAY, FEB. 6. The consideration- of the Writ of Error, Lu- CENA CRAUPURD, which stood for this day, was postponed. The Right Hon. Sir RICHARD HERON, Bart. Mr. TOWNSEND, of the Heralds' College, and others, were sworn with respea to their proposed evidence before the Committee of Privileges, rela. tive to the Claim of Sir CECIL BISSHOPP, Bart. to the Barony of Zouche. - - The bishop of LtkoaLtu and FERNS, one of the Irish Repyesentative, Prelates, was sworn and took his Seat. • It was ordered that no Reports from the Judges on Petitions for private Bills, should be received af ter the 24th of March. The Loin CHANCELLOR quitted the W 001..., sack, and acqtiainted the House that he understood their Lordships' Reading Clerk, Mr. Rosa, was unable to attend his duty, in consequence of severe indisposition, and it would be proper that, during the unavoidable absence of that Gentleman, a compe tent person should be appointed to perform the duties of his office. His Lordship concluded by moving, that W. STEWART ROSE, Esq. being pre vented, by severe indisposition, from attending his duty as Reading Clerk, JOHN BERKELEY, Esq. be appointed to officiate during his absence; which was ordered accordingly. Mr. BERKELEY, who attended at the Bar in his • silk gown and wig, proceeded to the Table, and took his seat as Pro-Reading Clerk. • One or two private Bills were forwarded a stage, after which their Lordships adjourned, till tomor row. HOUSE OF COM,VIONS. MONDAY, FEB. 6. The Right Hon. J. FOSTER took the oaths and his seat. The SOLICITOR GENERAL moved fOr leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Mt relating to West— India Securities.—Leave given. Mr.'T. GRENVILLE reported from the Commit tee appointed to try the merits of the Midhurst F,leCtion, that the sitting . Members were duly eleded, and that the Petition was frivolous and vexatious. IRISH ACCOUNTS., Mr. CORRY moved for the following Accounts, which were sevetally ordered. An Account of the Ordinary Receipts and Extraordinary Resources of the Public Revenue ut Ireland, for the year ending the Bth of lanuary. 180 -1. An Account of the Produce of the Consolidated Fund, and the Payments thereout, tor the same period. An Account of Balances due on the ;tit of January, 404, from the Collekors of the Public Revenue deceased, or who had quitted Office. An Account of the value of Imports and Exports to and from Ireland, for the year eliding the Bth of I anuary, IBG4. An Account of the number of Vessels, with their tonnage, registered in the Ports of Ireland un the 3oth of September, 1203. An Account of the number of Vessels, with their tonnage and the number of Men on board, which entered inwards and cleared outwards in the Ports of Ireland during the year end ing the sth of lanuar . ,, 1834. An Account of the Public Monies received at the Receipt of the Irish E :chequer, and the Sums paid thereout, for the year ending the sthJanuary, tbo 4. An Account oldie Public Funded Debt of Ireland on the Bth of lanuary, 113,4. An Account of the Unfunded Debt of Ireland, at the same period. An Abstract of the Receipts and Issues of the Treasury of Ireland, for the year ending the sth of January, 1804. An Account at the Monies given for the Service of the year 0; 0 3, and remaining undisposed of. An Account ut the Imports and Exports of Ireland, from hioz, to the. sth or January, t?,03. the A s c t c h ou o n i t i s a' a i t i ' l t a l r ie ' application of the Sum:, of 65:.0a0i. and g ranted respectively fu - the Service of I • _land. 15 AV L Account of Treasury Bills outstanding on the sth of January, 1804. An Account of the permanent Charges on the Consolidated Fund of Ireland. An Account of the quantity of Flax Seed imported into Ireland during the years ISaz and tBO3 An Account of the value of Linen exported from Ireland during the same period. An Account of the quantities of Malt and Flour imported arid exported to and front Ireland for five years, ending 1803. Mr. CORRY gave notice that he should call the attention of the House, during the present Session, to the state of the Corn Trade of Ireland ; and that . he also intended to bring in a Bill to ex. plain arra amend an Aft of ifiot, respeding the Linen Trade of Ireland. . . Y. Some Irish Accounts were presented and order. ed to lie on the Table. Lora GEO. CAVENDISH presented a Petition from the Debtors confined in the Gaol of Derby, praying for relief.--Ordered to lie on the Table. Alderman Comas presented a Petition from the Debtors confined in the Giltspur.street Compter, praying for relief.—Ordered to lie on the Table. _ The ATTORNEY GENERAL brought in a Bill fur indemnifying those concerned in issuing or. tiers from His Majesty's Treasury, for permitting the Exportation of Seed Corn to Portugal, which was read a first time,.and-ordered to be read a second time to morrow. BARRACKS. Mr. CALCRAFT wished to know from the CHAN CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, whether he had any objedion to lay before the House an Estimate of the Expence of Barracks, from December 1503 to December 1504, as he believed there was no &nu_ merit to that effel before the House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEOUER replied, that he had no objedion to the prodilc tion of any document for the purpose of putting the House in possession of the information asked for by the Hon. Gentleman. Tht SECRETARY at WAR said the Eitim,ite was prepared, and would be laid before the House in the course of a letv days.—lt had already been ordered. Mr. CALCRAFT expressed a wish that it might be produced early in the Session, in case it should be necessary to institute any inquiry upon the subjea. The Committees of Supply and Ways and Means were postponed till Wednesday. A:jow - led at t quarter before five till to-mfir. I'o \V. MAILS. DC 111. Hainburgh a AR RIVRD• PRICE 01: STOCKS, THIS DAY AT TWELY6 O'CLOCK. Consols. - - SS i I Red. Ann. - o - 3 Dis. THE SUN. SOLEM QUIS DICERE FALSUM AUDEAT ? LONDON, FEBRUARY 7, 1804.. YESTERDAY Ole' Judges of the Court of King's Bench delivered their Judgment in the Case of the KING v. DowLEY, a Case particularly interesting to all Volunteers. The Judges were unanimously of opinion that a Volunteer, unless he has entered into an express condition to the contrary, has a right at any time to resign, without permission being either asked or hal from his Commanding Officer ; and as Mr. DOWLEY, who brought his .'case before the Court, did not stand under any such limitation, they ordered that the Convidion against him by the Magistrates, under which he had been distrained upon for Fines for, non-attendance, after he had g iven in hisßesigna don as a Member oldie South wark Volunteer Cavalry, should be quashed. It may appear presumptuous in us to..offer an opinion upon a Decision of the Court of King's Bench, but w e may venture to say that the Judgment pronounced yesterday, was anticipated by every man who had . read the Ads relative to the Volunteers, or who had bestowed any attention upon the suhjed. Zealously attached as we are to the Volunteer System, front a conviction that under proper guidance it would enable this Country to bid defiance to the attacks: • even . of confederated Europe, we cannot but la' meat that the question of Resignation should e ve have been agitated. The great strength of the Volunteers does not consist so much in their MO' hers as in that ardent spirit of Patriotism by which they are actuated, and in the convietion which they must feel that this Country is en gaged in a contest, upon the result o f w hich depends not only our prosperi . y, but our existence. In such a cause, men have much stronger mo- . tives to induce them to stand forward than even the provisions of an, Ad of Parliament. What the nature of the Bill which is to be propose!, by Mr. YORKE to-morrow is, we do not for we cannot give the slightest credit to the f" ports we have heard upon the subjea, but we too ; it will not, by nuiltiplying compulsory regulation s ' evince a want of confidence in men who have i°l°ll - made such sacrifices fur the del - enc.. at thr ;t King and Country. THE following Capitulation, providing for th e Evecuation of St. Domingo by the French TrOOPS, is' drawn up in a spirit of moderation which A 0,3 great honour to the Black Generals. When we consid er the causes for deep and ardent resentment which the French have uniformly given to the Blacks sin e their landing in St. Domingo, one cannot but a d ' mire and praise the temper which they have (li sp played upon this occasion. o f ROCHAME EAU, it appears, had some hopes making his escape after he had obtained the Pe r ' mission of the Blacks to embark with the realn a° • of his Army, but our Sq'vtdron was much too - 4 t• lant to allow such an expeaation to he realized. CAPITULATION OF CAPE FRANCOIS, --• - t ie Agreed to by General Roe AMBEAU on the part o f t he French Army, and General DESSALIN ES conitnandifltoli' Black Troops, or, as they are termed, " l'Arniee•' gene." This day, the 27th Brumaire, of the T 2th Yef,if according to the French ta, and the r9rh of 141-1; vember, 1803, according to the common aura, Adjutant Commandant DovErtrEp., having re' l - ceived full power from Gen. Rock! AMB EAU, CO or mander in Chief of the Fren ch Arm y , to treat the Surrender of the To w n of the Ca p e, and JEA N Vf JAC Q UES DESSALI N ES, General of die Native A rt being also authorized to treat on the occasion, l ' a - agreed on the following Articles, viz. ontle pt Art. I. The Town of the Cape, and the Forts de:", to' ' thereon, shall be given up in ten d-ays, reckoning t l° ' - .4 in morrow, the 231 11 of Brumair e ( Nov. iB,) to the Gala Chief DEssAtixr.s. Ars c ' Art. 11. The Military Stores which are now in the „-;,- r tss nals, the Arms, and the Artillery of the Town a nd 0 ) sh:111 be left in their present condition. v oril A. 111. All :he Ships yr War, and oth e r Vessels got shall be judged necessary by Ge;I: Roc A mstAb, removal of the Troops and Inh a bitants, and tor the P.° Ic ci• tion of the plate, shall be tree to depart on th e da y appoi: the Art. IV. All - the Officers, Military or Civil, e ttte Troops cornpo , ir. t•,e 6arrison of the Cape, shall leav tvit place with all the Honours of War, carrying with t heo , „ t pio A rots, and all the private Property beloNging to their 1 1 ' brigades. 2 co cop' Art. V. The sick and wounded who shall n ot be in, ditiori to unbar*, shall be taken cafe of in the hospita'st'o e r their recovery ; they are specially recommend ed to the D tatty of General DE s s LiNrs, who will cause them embake:d l. orance in neutral vesels. Art. GeneralV DESSALINES, s in giving the ass ;V, of his protection to the Inhabitants who shall rem:6ll2_l'oe, Country, the same time upon the justice of Roc FLA MBEA .o set at liberty all the Natives o fth ce0 1 : try (Whatever may be the:r colour). as they canno t strained, Ander ; any pretext of right, to embark"voL.l,l 11 411 ' tench A r;ny Art. VII. The Troops of both Armies shal l re reL. eetive positions until tne trait day alter ti'e tore liereo, whieli is the day fixed on f the e:ac" 3 .li Cape A. VIII: The General in Chief. RocttAmDn A ' l l ass hos'o.igc - , fort observance ot the p i s the Acijutant U:z 13 AIN DE VA UN. t' , ) 51 , 1101 i tilC (; iti };ref, 1 . 3 Will 01:11C •